Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread 03-25-2017

Burmese Chess Set

Good afternoon morons and moronettes, and welcome to the Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread, the only AoSHQ thread with content specifically for all of us chess nerds who pay homage in the temple of Caïssa, goddess of the chessboard. And, for those of you who aren't nerdly enough for chess, you can use this thread to talk about checkers, or other games, or politics, or whatever you wish, only please try to keep it civil. Nobody wants to get in the middle of a hockey brawl on a Saturday afternoon. Except maybe hockey enthusiasts.

“When the Chess game is over, the Pawn and the King go back to the same box”

(Irish saying)

Pic Note

According to the chessantiques.com page from whence I stole this photo, this 19th century set is made from Chinese ivory. The king stands 12 cm tall, which is about 4 3/4 inches. The chessantiques.com link contains some pretty good close-up photos where you can better see the intricately-carved, ornate design. The opposite color pieces are a kind of jade green color. I'm assuming the color is from a green paint or stain on the ivory rather than actual jade.

Problem 1 - Black To Play (187)

Hint: Black mates in 2

1r5k/5prp/p2Q4/3P4/4BP2/1P1n4/P1N2q1P/3R3K b - - 0 1

Problem 2 - White To Play (160)

Hint: White wins material

2q4k/p6p/6p1/5p2/5P1P/1Bb2QP1/Pr6/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

Problem 3 - White To Play (149)

Hint: White mates in 4

2R5/6p1/4Kn1k/3p1P1p/2p4P/5P2/8/8 w - - 0 1

Cinematic Chess Mistakes

Here is an interesting article on chess mistakes in movies:

There’s one group of experts who can barely flip on the television without being exposed to egregious, head-on-desk mistakes: chess players...While different experts cite different error ratios, from “20 percent” to “much more often than not,” all agree: Hollywood is terrible at chess, even though they really don’t have to be. “There are so many [errors], it’s hard to keep track,” says Grandmaster Ilja Zaragatski, of chess24. “And there are constantly [new ones] coming out.”

Oh, I don't know, I'm thinking maybe the firearms experts can make a strong case for the many mistakes they see in their particular area of expertise. It's fun sitting next to one while you're watching a movie or TV show and seeing then explode with fury. You might hear "That rifle wasn't used in that battle!" or "What's a German soldier doing with a British rifle?" It actually can be quite educational.

But I like how the article groups the errors into categories, such as the Bad Setup, or the Deep Cut. And of course, everybody's favorite, the Dramatic Checkmate:

This blunder occurs when one opponent surprises another by winning out of nowhere—or, similarly, when some extra-smart character walks by a game in progress and points out a checkmate opportunity the players didn’t spot.

I'm disappointed they didn't mention the one specie of Dramatic Checkmate I hate the most. I haven't thought of a good name for it, but it goes like this: the hero has been roped into playing chess with the villain. Both are staring intently at the board. The villain smiles evilly, moves a piece, and says "check!" in a sinister voice. Then the hero looks at the board for a bit, moves one of his own piece and triumphantly declares, "No. Check MATE!" and the villain's face dissolves into a scowl. So. Dumb.

Another one that is not all that common is the use of anachronistic pieces. This one is hard to spot, but once I did see an episode of A&E's Revolutionary War spy drama Turn where General Washington was illustrating troop movements on a large map using chess pieces. Which is fine, but the pieces were the familiar (to us) Staunton design pieces, which weren't invented until 1849. Something like this would have been a more appropriate choice. Those pieces are from what is known as a 'Washington' set because George Washington owned one very much like it. But non-Staunton sets tend to be spendy and hard to come by, so I guess I can understand why a TV show wouldn't want to spend extra money just to placate a few chess nerds.

By the way, I snatched the Washington set pic from this web page, which describes antique English chess sets, 1750–1850, and the way the photos are arranged, you can sort of see the evolution of chess piece design from the early sets to the Staunton style.

Problem 4 - White To Play (BWTC 198 )

Hint: White can force a mate in, at most, 6 moves

r5kn/2q1r1p1/bpp1p2p/n3P2N/p4P2/3QK1RP/PP4P1/RN1B4 w - - 0 1

Endgame of the Week (437)

It's White's move. Looks like Black is a step ahead in the queening race. What can White do about it, if anything?

8/8/P7/2N1pk2/8/8/1K5p/8 w - - 0 1

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Solutions Update

Problem 1 - Black To Play

1r5k/5prp/p2Q4/3P4/4BP2/1P1n4/P1N2q1P/3R3K b - - 0 1

Shouldn't be too difficult:

1...Qg1+
2.Rxg1 Nf2#

Problem 2 - White To Play

2q4k/p6p/6p1/5p2/5P1P/1Bb2QP1/Pr6/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

1. Rd8+!

Killer move. Black dare not take the rook. Because it'll be an early evening for him if he does: 1...Qxd8 2.Qxc3+ Qd4+ 3.Qxd4#

So Black will have to give up his queen to avoid checkmate:

1...Kg7

2.Rxc8

Black can fight back a bit with:

2...Bd4+

But White has nothing to fear. He says "Hold my beer..."

3.Kf1!

Black: wtf?

3...Rf2+
4.Qxf2 Bxf2
5.Rc7+ Kf8
6.Kxf2

And Black has been simplified right out of the game.

Problem 3 - White To Play

2R5/6p1/4Kn1k/3p1P1p/2p4P/5P2/8/8 w - - 0 1

1.Rh8+ Nh7

Black's king and knight are stuck right where they are. All White has to do now is move his own king over to help the rook take the knight, which Black will be unable to stop.

2.Kf7 d4

There's not much else for Black to do. There is no hope in pushing the 'g' pawn: 2...g6 3.fxg6 c3 4. Rxh7#. Similiarly, 2...g5 3.fxg6 d4 4.Rxh7#

3.Kg8 c3
4.Rxh7#

Problem 4 - White To Play

r5kn/2q1r1p1/bpp1p2p/n3P2N/p4P2/3QK1RP/PP4P1/RN1B4 w - - 0 1

1. Qh7+!

There are 3 responses possible for Black:

a) 1...Kf8 2.Qxh8+ Kf7 3.Rxg7#

b) 1...Kf7 2.Rxg7+ Ke8 3.Qxh8+ Kd7 4.Nf6#

c) 1...Kxh7

Holds out the longest. The rest is forced:

2.Rxg7+ Rxg7
3.Nf6+ Kg6
4.Bh5+ Kf5
5.g4+ Rxg4
6.hxg4#

Endgame of the Week

8/8/P7/2N1pk2/8/8/1K5p/8 w - - 0 1

1. Ne4!

White wants to clog up the diagonal to hinder the mobility of Black's queen, when he succeeds in getting one. Also, there's always a chance he might fall for this trap:

1...Kxe4?
2.a7 h1=Q
3.a8=Q+

Note how the queen attacks the king, but also indirectly, the queen on h1. This kind of an attack is called a 'skewer'. This came up in a thread earlier this week.

3...Ke3
4.Qxh1 winning.

But Black will most likely see the trap and avoid it by playing

1...Kf4

Which gives White enough time to use his knight to stop the queening pawn/

2.Nf2 Kf3
3.Nh1 Kg2

At this point, the knight has served its purpose and may be sacrificed to queen the pawn.

4.a7 Kxh1
5.a8=Q+ Kg1

White isn't out of the woods yet. The black pawn on h2 is still dangerous and White's strategy is to either force Black's king away from it so it can be picked off, or into the corner where it can be threatened with checkmate. He does this with a series of checks that brings the queen closer and closer.

6.Qg8+ Kf2
7.Qd5 Kg1
8.Qd1+ Kg2
9.Qg4+ Kf2
10.Qh3 Kg1
11.Qg3+ Kh1

Black doesn't want to move to h1, but he has to, otherwise White will take the pawn. But now the king is locked in and all White has to do is set up the mate.

12.Qf2 e4
13.Qf1#

Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:09 PM

Comments

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1 Ah, the chess thread...

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 05:10 PM (DrCtv)

2 Pythons play chess?

(smack) Owww!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 05:11 PM (hVdx9)

3 P-K4
Just had a terrible draw, was up a piece

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 05:12 PM (GPaiX)

4 Great looking pieces on that top photo.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 05:12 PM (DrCtv)

5 Chinamen had to give up their teeth to make that chess set?

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 05:13 PM (GPaiX)

6
My new thing is cool chess terms, such as Skewered.

Here are some more chess terms (that I might've made up):

Puckered
Snookered
Befuddled
Raspberried
Shlonged
Zinged
Shat

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 05:13 PM (O96tM)

7 Just had a terrible draw, was up a piece

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 05:12 PM (GPaiX)

That always hurts. Was it against a person or your chess app?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:13 PM (WPSd5)

8 My new thing is cool chess terms, such as Skewered.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 05:13 PM (O96tM)

You're in luck. A skewer attack is used in the solution of one of the problems today.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:15 PM (WPSd5)

9 The schlong? Not so much.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:16 PM (WPSd5)

10
Test... of upgrade from 4s to 7+ test, test, test....

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 25, 2017 05:18 PM (4DCSq)

11 Wow carvings.

Wonder how many failed trying to do the flag on the rook.

Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2017 05:19 PM (FhXTo)

12 Yay! Worked and top 10!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 25, 2017 05:20 PM (4DCSq)

13 I have something quite similar to the "something like this" set. It's actually a very elaborate ivory and wood set that I think is Indonesian. Much more abstract than your typical chess set.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 25, 2017 05:21 PM (PhYV5)

14
Wonder how many failed trying to do the flag on the rook.
Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2017 05:19 PM (FhXTo)
---
They tried and died!

Posted by: Bene Chesserit at March 25, 2017 05:22 PM (PhYV5)

15 I'm confused on problem 3. If white moves the rook to H8, isn't that mate? what am I missing?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at March 25, 2017 05:22 PM (a3sfz)

16 OM, there was a Columbo episode from an early season that focused on a chess master trying to kill a rival. Naturally, Columbo just happens to be a frustrated chess savant, because of course he is. Have you seen it? Is it an example of bad chess in fiction, or did they get it right?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (8nWyX)

17 I have something quite similar to the "something like this" set. It's actually a very elaborate ivory and wood set that I think is Indonesian. Much more abstract than your typical chess set.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 25, 2017 05:21 PM (PhYV5)

You ought to take a photo of it and send it in. I might publish it on a future chess thread

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (WPSd5)

18 Chess app

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (GPaiX)

19 When the Chess game is over, the Pawn and the King go back to the same box

(Irish saying)

What a horrible thing to say about the Queen!

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (eeTCA)

20 NW MO ST just beat Fairmont St (WV) for men's D-II B'ball Championship. Gonzaga v Xavier game starts at 5p CDST on TBS.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 25, 2017 05:24 PM (Dhht7)

21 Derpty derpty derpty derp...

Problem one...does mate in two include a queen sacrifice?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 05:24 PM (0mRoj)

22 I'm confused on problem 3. If white moves the rook to H8, isn't that mate? what am I missing?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at March 25, 2017 05:22 PM (a3sfz)

Nh7.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:24 PM (WPSd5)

23
It just dawned on me what Pres Trump meant when he told the Republican Shits to either vote for trumpcare or lose in 2018.

President didn't just mean the base would be angry in 2018; he meant that he'd campaign AGAINST THEM in 2018.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 05:24 PM (O96tM)

24 Problem 2 - Rc1. Pins queen.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 05:27 PM (0mRoj)

25 Nh7.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:24 PM (WPSd5)

Allow me to take this opportunity to say, "Duh!!"

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at March 25, 2017 05:27 PM (a3sfz)

26 Problem 1:

... Qxc2

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 05:28 PM (zc3Db)

27 1 -...., Q-g1+
RxQ, N-f2#

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 05:28 PM (GPaiX)

28
In other words, Prince Reebus, Bannon, and Pres Trump (the White House Inner Circle) will now support any Republican primary candidate who promises him (and us) a vote on healthcare.

Will it come to that?
Probably.

I have a feeling President Trump will HAVE TO call our and shame the Republicans during the midterm election campaign season because they plan on doing what they're best at -- Nothing -- for the next 12 months.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 05:28 PM (O96tM)

29 Problem 2:

Rd8+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 05:28 PM (zc3Db)

30 So I get a checkmate in #2 and the hint says...no, you don't! Drat.

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2017 05:30 PM (7H/2n)

31 Problem 3:

Rh8+ Nh7
Kxd5

... and then just clean up ... (?)

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 05:31 PM (zc3Db)

32 On movies: it's not just confined to chess...just before I went off to basic, I saw The Patriot, as it had come out in theaters at that point. Just before Thanksgiving, in my introductory history class on the path to getting a B.A. in history - a class known to all in the history program as "Methods" - the prof had an assignment for us. A student was bringing in a copy of The Patriot for us to view. To get a 100, we had to find five historical inaccuracies. To make it more fun and to bribe the students to show up for class right before Thanksgiving, he declared that the assignment was open book, and that we could publicly call out the inaccuracies as the movie was shown. Think MST3K with about 20 history nerds and it will give you an idea of the atmosphere.
Before that class I had rather enjoyed the movie. Not after we shredded the hell out of it. To this day it isn't possible for me to watch historical depictions on film and enjoy them as other people do.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at March 25, 2017 05:34 PM (YFVDd)

33 OMG. The face on the bishop looks like Beavis and/or Butthead.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 05:35 PM (hVdx9)

34 Why is the queen in that picture taller than the king?

Problem 1.
1...Nxf2# Oops! Can't capture my own piece. OK, 1...Qf3+ 2.Bxf3 Nf2#

Problem 2.
1.Rd8+ Qxd8 2.Qxc3+ Qd4 3.Qxd4#

Problem 3.
1.Rh8+ Nh7 2.Kf7
If 2...c3 (or d4), then 3.Kg8 and 4.Rxh7#
If 2...g6 then 3.fxg6 and 4.Rxh7#
If 2...g5 3.Kg8 gxh4 4.f4 and 5.Rxh7# (or 3.f4, 4.Kg8, 5.Rxh7#)

Problem 4.
Looks complicated. PASS.

Endgame.
Probably starts 1.Ne4. If 1...h1Q 2.Ng3+, or if 1...Kxe4 2.a7 etc. Or if 1...Kf4 then 2.Nf2. Yeah, that should do it.

Posted by: bof at March 25, 2017 05:36 PM (Bu4wL)

35 Antifa Punk got shit beat out of him for going after Trump rally supporters, watch how fast those PUSSIES disappear

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 05:36 PM (y3aQB)

36 Problem 4:

Nf6+

if ... Kf8 then
Qh7

if Kf7 then
bh5+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 05:38 PM (zc3Db)

37
That's one ugly chess set.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 25, 2017 05:38 PM (lKyWE)

38 To my Kekistani brothers and sisters, Shadilay!

BTW, I'm pissed that the 10 hour version of the Kekistani Pride video got yanked. Not to mention the 10 hour "Never Come Down" video.

I also saw that the official video has Brave Shores noting --not approvingly-- their song being co-opted by Trumpites. To that I'd say (if I could be bothered to futz with registering to post a comment on Youtube), it's The Donald that makes that song great, not the other way round.

Posted by: logprof at March 25, 2017 05:40 PM (GsAUU)

39
It just proves the best remedy for a bully is to ~~ignore~~ smash his/her face.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 05:40 PM (O96tM)

40 Oh, 1...Qe1+ and 1...Qg1+ also work in Problem 1.

Posted by: bof at March 25, 2017 05:40 PM (Bu4wL)

41 Posted by: bof at March 25, 2017 05:36 PM (Bu4wL)

Good work.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 05:40 PM (WPSd5)

42 Chess Thread Yeah!

That Burmese set is cool. They should have the pawn as a loin cloth daicot shikoing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 05:42 PM (5VlCp)

43 33 OMG. The face on the bishop looks like Beavis and/or Butthead.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 05:35 PM (hVdx9)

Uh, I'm going to smack that bishop.

Huh huh huh huhuhuhuh.

Heeheeheeheeheeheehee!

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at March 25, 2017 05:43 PM (GsAUU)

44 Burma is currently Thailand?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 05:45 PM (bMQv/)

45
Why does the horse look like it just swallowed a watermelon?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 25, 2017 05:47 PM (lKyWE)

46 Speaking of games, KU and Oregon play tonight in the Elite 8 here in KC. Oregon has barely won their games, while KU has been pretty much stomping their opponents.

Should be fun.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 05:48 PM (DrCtv)

47 Pretty pieces.

I am infuriated with the fact that Hillary has the freedom to cackle and condemn yesterday's O-Care replacement collapse. The woman should be in a federal prison. And I see Huma is out and about at Disneyland and such as if she didn't have a care in the world. Both of these women should be quivering in fright awaiting indictment. But no.
So unjust.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 25, 2017 05:48 PM (Ivjge)

48 Those pieces are certainly beautiful. But why did the artist carve that booger under the Bishop's nose? Sheesh. Coulda left that out.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 25, 2017 05:50 PM (HiDrR)

49 Problem 1 was easy, I couldn't get problem 2, and in problem 3, I can see White winning material but I can't find a clear win.

It appears that 18th century chess set manufacturers were very fond of lathes.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 05:50 PM (sdi6R)

50 47; total bullshit. why did scooter go to jail? did he have a server in his shitter too?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 05:51 PM (KP5rU)

51 The biggest problem with those chess pieces is that you can't tell the queen from the king. Where are the tits?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 05:51 PM (zc3Db)

52 35 Antifa Punk got shit beat out of him for going after Trump rally supporters, watch how fast those PUSSIES disappear
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 05:36 PM (y3aQB)

--Good news.

*Still* not tired of winning.

The next time I hear some dipshit call Trump Hitler I'll point out to him that we need nationalist, populaist politicians like Trump precisly to *avoid* a repeat of Hitler. Just a few days ago I read yet again about the destruction of Smyrna, a near-apocalyptic event that must have truly seemed Hell on Earth.

If we want to avoid Smyrna being re-enacted multiple times across the West, we need more Trumps, Orbans, Wilderses, Le Pens and Farages to clean up the Count Kalergi self-beshitting of the past few decades.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 05:54 PM (GsAUU)

53 Xavier-Zags coming up!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 05:55 PM (GsAUU)

54 They wanted to know how big to make the King. So I showed them.

Posted by: Chinese John Holmes at March 25, 2017 05:56 PM (JO9+V)

55 Endgame:

1. Ne4 Kxe4
2. a7 h1=Q
3. a1=Q+
Ouch.

1. Ne4 h1=Q
2. Ng3+
D'oh!

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 05:58 PM (sdi6R)

56 a8=Q+, I mean.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 05:58 PM (sdi6R)

57 Roll Xavier!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 05:59 PM (bMQv/)

58 I hear some dipshit call Trump Hitler

http://blog.dilbert.com/post
/158812654486/trump-and-healthcare

Hitler ALWAYS got what he wanted, DJT not so much on 1st try.

Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2017 06:00 PM (FhXTo)

59 I'm watching The Ladykillers, one of the lesser Coen Bros movies but one not without its charms.

Professor G.H. Dorr: I shudder. I quake. You, sir, are a Buddhist. Is there not a "middle" way?

The General: Mm. Must float like a leaf on the river of life... and kill old lady.

Posted by: Bene Chesserit at March 25, 2017 06:00 PM (PhYV5)

60 Off, killer lady sock!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 25, 2017 06:01 PM (PhYV5)

61 46 Speaking of games, KU and Oregon play tonight in the Elite 8 here in KC. Oregon has barely won their games, while KU has been pretty much stomping their opponents.

Should be fun.
Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 05:48 PM (DrCtv)

--Are you going to the game?

Dumb Question --I'm sure the Jawhawk fans scarfed up the tix days ago.

I've only seen 3 tourney games ever, but they were memorable (ODU vs. the famous Hurley/Hill/Laettner Blue Devils, and ODU's 3OT victory obver Villanova, followed by Tulsa-Illinois), at at the time it was one of the biggest bargains in all of sports ($20 for a ticket to see back to back games, albeit probably at a discount for students/alumni). I'm not sure if it's still the deal it was in the '90s, but at least there were memorable road trips.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:01 PM (GsAUU)

62 The biggest problem with those chess pieces is that you can't tell the queen from the king. Where are the tits?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

In the chairs.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2017 06:02 PM (GgzGa)

63
Republican Shits could not sell the FACT that 24 Million People would no longer HAVE TO BUY EXPENSIVE health care if they didn't want to.

Think about that for a moment.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:04 PM (O96tM)

64 Video of antifa p*ssy throwing a punch and then getting his butt kicked:

https://twitter.com/immigrant4trump/status/845733931878092801

"Run away!"

"Run away!"

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 06:05 PM (WPSd5)

65 Is it just me or does Oreo have a Nurse Ratchet vibe going on?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 25, 2017 06:06 PM (l1vMf)

66
1 out of 12 people would be FREE from spending thousands of dollars a year on a health insurance plan not of their choosing.

And the Republicans couldn't even sell that.

Instead the Republicans were stuttering and stammering on live tv fake news every time they were hit the fake stat that 24 million young healthy people would LOSE/Get Kicked Off their health care.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:07 PM (O96tM)

67 63; they never wanted to. the repukes like everything the way it is. they are just demos turned inside out. same dirty shit underneath.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (KP5rU)

68 Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:01 PM (GsAUU)

No, not going to the game. And as you surmised, tickets are pretty damn pricy. Heck, the other night when they were showing the KU game outside they had to limit the people coming in because the crowd had gotten so big at the Power and Light District.

No, just going to have some cold ones and watch it on TV.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (DrCtv)

69 hey Chessman, here's an idea for a future chess column:
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/bad-chess-scenes-movies-tv

Posted by: docweasel at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (R4Slz)

70 64 Video of antifa p*ssy throwing a punch and then getting his butt kicked:

https://twitter.com/immigrant4trump/status/845733931878092801

"Run away!"

"Run away!"
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 06:05 PM (WPSd5)

--LMAO that little fascist bitch was literally pounding sand.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (GsAUU)

71 Xavier is a big Louisville feeder school.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (bMQv/)

72 Damn, the Zags are raining treys.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (GsAUU)

73 Historical Inaccuracies?

"Their hats were about their heads."

Julius Caesar - William Shakespeare

My dear old Dad used to say "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story."

Trouble is one of my brothers has never read a history book. All he knows is the shit that he has seen in movies. I am at the point where I just tell him to shut up.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 06:10 PM (lcylG)

74 Hoft (of course) has the Antifa ass-whipping vid posted. Very nice. Moar, please.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:12 PM (89T5c)

75 Burma is currently Thailand?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 05:45 PM (bMQv/)

Nope....they renamed in Myanmar or some such crap.

But to me and George Orwell it will always be Burma.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 06:12 PM (5VlCp)

76 Today while running errands I went to Chick Fil-A. Long line at the drive thru. Took a while to get my spicy Sandwich of Great Hate, but as long as I'm not in a time crunch I don't mind waiting for food as long at it's hot and fresh when I finally get it --and boy was it. Anyway, it was good to see such a famously non-SJW values business doing well. (The truck in front of me had a big order.)

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:14 PM (GsAUU)

77 They have faces that are thirsty for fists.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:14 PM (89T5c)

78
Prediction for next week: Fake News will report that last Winter was the warmest on record.

Kind of a layup for predictions, I know.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:16 PM (O96tM)

79 --LMAO that little fascist bitch was literally pounding sand.
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:09 PM (GsAUU)

Nooooo not my maaaask it's the only thing that makes me look intimidating, otherwise I'm just another rich white kiiiid

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:16 PM (8nWyX)

80 Some of those voting against deserve to be primaried such as Freedom Caucus member Justin Amash who is pro-refugee, illegal-immigration, open-border, 100% free trade, and wants to increase H-1 Visas for businesses.

Mark Sanford(the current SC Rep/former Governor who claimed to be hiking the Appalllachian trail while off with his mistress in Brazil) has some weird hatred of Trump for ethical reasons. To this day he loves screaming about Trumps intolerance(racism), taxes and eagerly anticipates future
confrontations with him.

They still both can't shut up and stop bragging about how they refused to vote for him. At this point it seems they should be primaried as their agenda seems hatred of their parties leader.

There is also a handful of Freedom Caucus members from safe districts who are big Amnesty supporters who loved the Gang of 8.

Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at March 25, 2017 06:16 PM (0WFtY)

81 Burma is currently Thailand?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 05:45 PM (bMQv/)

Nope....they renamed in Myanmar or some such crap.

But to me and George Orwell it will always be Burma.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 06:12 PM (5VlCp)

Yeah ... Siam became Thailand.

And why didn't they rename Burmese pythons at the same time? Poor buggers don't know where to go, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 06:17 PM (zc3Db)

82 They have faces that are thirsty for fists.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:14 PM (89T5c)

Unsurprisingly, there's a German word for that: Backpfeifengesicht

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:17 PM (8nWyX)

83 Today
while running errands I went to Chick Fil-A. Long line at the drive
thru. Took a while to get my spicy Sandwich of Great Hate

Yes, I had a couple of Bigotry Filets there yesterday. Delicious.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:19 PM (Tyii7)

84 "Why'd you say Burma?"

"I panicked."

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 06:19 PM (sdi6R)

85
"Why'd you say Burma?"

Close shave.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 25, 2017 06:21 PM (IqV8l)

86 Reviews are coming in for "Mass Effect: Andromeda". They're saying it's good. 75%ish on metacritic.

Games take such an investment in time to learn the controls, and to get into the world, that they usually have to get into the 80s to get bought. And at this moment, "Andromeda" is competing with "Horizon" and "Nier" and (for Nintendo owners) the latest Zelda, which gamers are bowing to.

(A "Grandma's Boy" reference for all y'all fellow coders. You know who you are.)

The reviewers uttering meh to "Andromeda" are driving the shiv into EA's kidney. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of studio-consuming hacks.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 06:21 PM (3pDNF)

87 I reckon the reviewers *want* to give Andromeda 5/10, not 7.5/10, in short. EA is powerful, and Andromeda is in the culture-war now because of that jackass Manvier Hier, so the game is difficult to confront directly.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 06:23 PM (3pDNF)

88 Speaking of health care . . .

You don't have to agree with what's going on in Poland, but it's an opportunity to think outside the cubicle:

http://www.vdare.com/posts/health-care-and-nationalism-the-case-of-poland

It could be an intriguing opportunity for Trump, if not with health care, than maybe with some other salient issue. . . .

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:23 PM (GsAUU)

89 In the NCAA tourney, every time they show the coach, I always harken back to my favorite movie basketball coach, the one in Teen Wolf.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 25, 2017 06:23 PM (YFnq5)

90 I always feel I've been transported into a lost slice of Americana when I go into a C-F-A. That alone makes it worth the visit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:24 PM (Tyii7)

91 Stupid fascists don't know this simple fact. If you are going to act like a brownshirt, you have to have a couple hundred goons at your back.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 06:24 PM (lcylG)

92 I always feel I've been transported into a lost slice of Americana when I go into a C-F-A. That alone makes it worth the visit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:24 PM (Tyii7)

I feel like I've been transported into 1960s Soviet Russia every time I'm in the post office.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 06:25 PM (zc3Db)

93 I feel like I'm at the circus whenever I go to WalMart.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:26 PM (89T5c)

94 I feel like I've been transported into 1960s Soviet Russia every time I'm in the post office.

Same with the BMV.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:27 PM (Tyii7)

95 I'm watching a fly fishing and tying show which seems to have been filmed in Britain in the early 70s. There's an old guy in a tweed cap and jackets watching a younger guy in full fishing kit, including waders and a hat with flies on it.

It's all totally un-ironic, but there's something about the dress and the quality of light that makes me think a Monty Python skit is about to break out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 25, 2017 06:27 PM (gIRsn)

96 They have lowest franchise fee and require mgmt to be onsite

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 06:28 PM (bMQv/)

97 Mark Sanford(the current SC Rep/former Governor who claimed to be hiking the Appalllachian trail while off with his mistress in Brazil) has some weird hatred of Trump for ethical reasons. To this day he loves screaming about Trumps intolerance(racism), taxes and eagerly anticipates future
confrontations with him.

--Actually, I think it was Argentinian poon, but regardless it may be The Power of Pussy that colors Sanford's wide stance on immigration. He may also be a case of a GOPe pol with skeletons in his closet (or, as Eddie Murphy put it, a cemetery) with blackmail fodder causing him to behave so.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:29 PM (GsAUU)

98 Actually, my local BMV is more like the United Nations on any given day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:29 PM (Tyii7)

99 I'm watching Mutiny On The Bounty with Brando and I'll be damned if he doesn't utter his Apocalypse Now line in that movie. Before they set sail he tells Bligh,

"I understand we're taking this [something] scow around the world on a grocer's errand." [paraphrased]

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 06:29 PM (zc3Db)

100 89
In the NCAA tourney, every time they show the coach, I always harken
back to my favorite movie basketball coach, the one in Teen Wolf.

Posted by: goatexchange
Lynda Carter played the coach, right?!?

Posted by: scrood at March 25, 2017 06:30 PM (XcOXh)

101 Mission of Burma:

"That's When I Reach for my Revolver"

https://youtu.be/I8piMHsOya4

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:30 PM (GsAUU)

102 I don't play chess, but great good gods, what beautiful pieces those are! Incredible art -- carvings like these belong on the daily art thread, as well!

Posted by: Empire1 at March 25, 2017 06:30 PM (Hqb9R)

103
I'm getting old. Fast.

It was kinda before my time, but I was technically alive during the 1970 Stanley Cup when the Bruins swept the St Louis Whoevers.

When players start dying from that team, you know you're old.

Gary Doake. RIP.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:30 PM (O96tM)

104
Sanford is a tool of the establishment, always was.
He's an agent for the lobbyists more than anything else.

Also, he's part of the ugly South Carolina Republican political scene.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:32 PM (O96tM)

105 I feel like I've been transported into 1960s Soviet Russia every time I'm in the post office.
Same with the BMV.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:27 PM (Tyii7)

Yup....those places are what it must be like when a person goes to hell and has to wait on line for the next demon to assist you to your level of hades.

My local post orifice has two fat broads of dubious sexual identity at the service desk who are about as helpful as a tick. I avoid the place when I can.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 06:33 PM (5VlCp)

106 16
OM, there was a Columbo episode from an early season that focused
on a chess master trying to kill a rival. Naturally, Columbo just
happens to be a frustrated chess savant, because of course he is. Have
you seen it? Is it an example of bad chess in fiction, or did they get
it right?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (8nWyX)

One of my favorite Columbo episodes.
Produced about the time of the Ficsher/Spassky match, the Russian and American Grandmasters about to play for the World Championship bump into each other in a restaurant the night before the match begins, and they end up playing on a checkered tablecloth with salt and pepper shakers and clam shells and such for pieces.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2017 06:34 PM (XoldI)

107 90 I always feel I've been transported into a lost slice of Americana when I go into a C-F-A. That alone makes it worth the visit.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:24 PM (Tyii7)

--I think it's delicious that the Lavender Mafia probably did more to boost their sales than anything or anyone else.

And yeah, I live in El Paso so a trip to the Wal Mart is like the cantina scene in Star Wars.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:34 PM (GsAUU)

108 I know I'm getting old when I remember both Johnny Carson and Jay Leno retiring on air.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:34 PM (89T5c)

109 One of the best chess movies, BTW, is Fresh. Fun movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 06:35 PM (zc3Db)

110 The Zags seem to have solves Xavier's Xone defense.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:35 PM (GsAUU)

111 Sanford is one of those guys that Washington turned.

When he was in Congress the first time, he was a genuine Southern conservative, and he was one of the impeachment managers for Clinton (others included Lindsay Graham and Joe Scarborough - wtf happened!) He made a big deal about not wanting Washington to change him, he did not get a place to live in DC, he slept on a cot in his office for a while, and later (I think) he got a "crash pad" with another Republican lawmaker.

He came back to SC to run for Governor and was acceptably conservative and unknown until his fling with the Argentinian.

But then he came back and ran for his old seat in Charleston after Tim Scott went to the Senate.

Trump is BIG in SC, and BIG in Charleston. I don't get his nevertrumperism.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 06:35 PM (HV1LS)

112 I know I'm getting old when I remember both Johnny Carson and Jay Leno retiring on air.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 25, 2017 06:34 PM (89T5c)

Heh. I know people who brag about being old enough to have seen 9/11 live. Oh, really? Did you see Challenger live in the TV room at school (because the school only had one TV)? My lawn, you, some disassembly required.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:38 PM (8nWyX)

113 And probably the dumbest chess scene in any movie, ever, was in Searching For Bobby Fischer (which is a great movie). The scene where he sacrifices his queen in the final game and then everyone's in suspense until he actually takes back the other queen is pretty stupid. Samuel L Jackson is his street/blitz chess coach and has faith that Waitzkin was only setting the other kid up ... but he doesn't act as if he knows what's really going on until Waitzkin physically takes the other queen from the board and then Jackson exclaims, "There it is!!". That was just stupid, even allowing for artistic license and the exigencies of movie-making ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 06:40 PM (zc3Db)

114 Heh. I know people who brag about being old enough to have seen 9/11 live. Oh, really? Did you see Challenger live in the TV room at school (because the school only had one TV)? My lawn, you, some disassembly required.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:38 PM (8nWyX)

--I missed the Miracle on Ice, but I recall Challenger vividly. It was a snow day off from school so I caught it on TV.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:42 PM (GsAUU)

115 Got the new NatGeo on why climate change is a fact and the world is doomed if we don't stop it now.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 06:43 PM (GPaiX)

116 Hmm... late again but solutions are still not posted.

P1: 1. ... Qg1+ 2. Rxg1 Nf2#

P2: 1. Rd8+ Qxd8 2. Qxc3+ Qd5 3. Qxd5# (or same on f6).

P3: 1. Rh8+ Nh7 2. Kxd5 e3 3. Re8 Nf6+ 4. Ke5 stops N from moving to either e4 or d5 so R takes e pawn next move.

P4: 1. Nf6+ Kf8 2. Qh7 Kf7 3. Bh5+ Kf7 Qxh8#
OR: 1. Nf6+ Kf7 2. Bh5+ Kf8 3. Qh7 winning

EG: 1. Ne4 h1=Q 2. Ng3+ wins Q
OR: 1. Ne4 KxN 2. a7 h1=Q 3. a8=Q+ wins Q

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 06:43 PM (EoAgi)

117 Hmmm - looking it up, apparently I am wrong (it happens) about Sanford being an impeachment manager. He was in the House then and he was a vocal critic of Clinton, but not an impeachment manager.

Says in wikipedia (yeah I know) that he was often teamed up with Ron Paul. First I have heard of it.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 06:43 PM (HV1LS)

118 Can anyone explain how RyanCare was ever going to get approved by the Senate?

I concluded that failure in the Senate was planned for. It would have been better optics for this to die in the Senate with 51 R votes for, in order to hang it on Schumer and the many vulnerable D Senators, which I thought was the plan

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2017 06:43 PM (SIY7D)

119 i'm so old i saw jack ruby shoot lee harvey live. top that, lawn surfers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:45 PM (KP5rU)

120 Damn, Zags are > 50% on 3-pointers.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:45 PM (GsAUU)

121 "Got the new NatGeo"

I used to love it as a kid, especially the maps. Pity that it gotten taken over by The Borg

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2017 06:46 PM (SIY7D)

122 119 i'm so old i saw jack ruby shoot lee harvey live. top that, lawn surfers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:45 PM (KP5rU)

--LMAO, you got this young buck beat.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)

123 i'm so old i saw jack ruby shoot lee harvey live. top that, lawn surfers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:45 PM (KP5rU)

Current winner so far, at least in this thread. My dad remembers watching the first episode of The Flintstones.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:47 PM (8nWyX)

124 i'm so old i saw jack ruby shoot lee harvey live. top that, lawn surfers.

That's my first datable memory. I had been put down for a nap and heard my aunt yell "oh my god, they shot him!" from the next room.

I was three.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 25, 2017 06:47 PM (gIRsn)

125 124; i was in third grade.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:48 PM (KP5rU)

126 I thought Siam was the whole thing.

Burma, Thailand, the whole enchilada.

I bet Thai enchiladas would be delicious.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2017 06:48 PM (qUNWi)

127 I was three.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 25, 2017 06:47 PM (gIRsn)

I was five and living in England. My father said to me "Americans always shoot their best presidents". That's my earliest coherent memory.

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 06:49 PM (EoAgi)

128 I have had it since I wasa kid, my mother actually gets it for me as a birthday present, good chance she doesn't I won't get it. There is a viking artical from last month I am using as a profile on painting a dwarf figure.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 06:50 PM (GPaiX)

129 121 "Got the new NatGeo"

I used to love it as a kid, especially the maps. Pity that it gotten taken over by The Borg
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2017 06:46 PM (SIY7D)

--Yup. I was bummed when I needed to downsize and donated a ton of old issues to Goodwill, which kind of completed a circle because when I was a youngster my parents would sometimes buy me NG issues at the VA thrift store that I would devour. My only consolation was that maybe some other curious boy or girl would get to enjoy some cheap Nat Geo content from when it was still an informative, not as political, read.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:52 PM (GsAUU)

130 I thought Siam was the whole thing.

Burma, Thailand, the whole enchilada.

I bet Thai enchiladas would be delicious.
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2017 06:48 PM (qUNWi)

You need to re-watch the Rodgers and Hammerstein documentary The King and I.

Also Thai enchiladas would... I don't even have words for it. Especially with a big pile of cilantro.

I need to be alone for a while.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 06:52 PM (8nWyX)

131
Same with the BMV.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 06:27 PM (Tyii7)

I think they just randomly and unapologetically tell people who have had to wait for an hour or more that their paperwork isn't in order and to come back some other time.

I was once told my birth certificate wasn't acceptable. I almost got arrested for disorderly conduct.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 25, 2017 06:52 PM (K2ygU)

132 In retrospect, there were a lot of fine Roman emperors who shouldn't have been murdered, but some ambitious and/or selfish assholes murdered anyway. Claudius, Pertinax, Aurelian, Maurice...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 06:53 PM (3pDNF)

133 You need to re-watch the Rodgers and Hammerstein documentary The King and I.

Are you kidding? Where do you think I get all my Siam facts from?

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2017 06:53 PM (qUNWi)

134 126 I thought Siam was the whole thing.

Burma, Thailand, the whole enchilada.

I bet Thai enchiladas would be delicious.
Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2017 06:48 PM (qUNWi)

--At various times, the Thais, Burmese, and Khmers had their turn dominating the Indochinese peninsula. Also, at various times some of those states were tributaries of China.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (GsAUU)

135 I saw Ruby get shot and remember the endless funeral. I think it was the only thing on for three days.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (Lqy/e)

136 " I know I'm getting old when I remember both Johnny Carson and Jay Leno retiring on air."

Oh dear, to hell with Carson and Leno, I still miss Jack Paar. And most of my childhood sports heroes are long gone (1950s and early 60s) or very old.

The percentage of people who should get off my lawn seems to be growing faster and faster.

Posted by: JTB at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (V+03K)

137 Damn, what a couple of shots!!!

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (GsAUU)

138 "Where do you think I get all my Siam facts from?"

It is a puzzlement.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (8fypK)

139
That's my first datable memory. I had been put down for a nap and heard my aunt yell "oh my god, they shot him!" from the next room.

I was three.

Maybe she was watching Dallas?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (O96tM)

140 I was in Thailand once and said (out loud, alas) to my wife, "hey it's funny, all the cats here are Siamese".

That's when it hit me, of course.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (gIRsn)

141 I'm so old I remember when gas was $.35 a gallon, and cigarettes were 50 cents a pack.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2017 06:55 PM (q3w6R)

142 This game could be a classic.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:55 PM (GsAUU)

143 n retrospect, there were a lot of fine Roman emperors who shouldn't have been murdered, but some ambitious and/or selfish assholes murdered anyway. Claudius, Pertinax, Aurelian, Maurice...

That poor Caligula. Just getting his life turned around.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2017 06:56 PM (qUNWi)

144 Ok I get 2 finally

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 06:56 PM (GPaiX)

145 Where do you think I get all my Siam facts from?

This is the Ace of Spades HQ. We've all got Thai girlfriends, and they're all 5'8 and have deep husky voices

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 06:56 PM (3pDNF)

146 119 i'm so old i saw jack ruby shoot lee harvey live. top that, lawn surfers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 25, 2017 06:45 PM (KP5rU)

I didn't, but my dad had a portable TV in the garage. He saw it, and came in and told us.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

147 Speaking of the Challenger explosion...

The morning it happened I was pissed. Voyager2 was doing a flyby of Uranus, and all we had in L.A. was the damn NASA channel that only wanted to cover the Shuttle. I had my recorder set for Voyager, but no, just the Shuttle.

But when the countdown started, a little voice inside my head said "Record this". Which I did, and then got amazed at what happened. Interesting thing on my recording. After the explosion, the camerafollows an object that is falling. Down down down...

It wasn't until years later that I realized what they were tracking was the command module as it fell to the ocean. And that's what killed them. They had blown through the explosion of the rockets.

Footage that I have, but you will probably never see on TV.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 06:59 PM (DrCtv)

148 I've been watching dirigible videos on YouTube.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 06:59 PM (sdi6R)

149 And most of my childhood sports heroes are long gone (1950s and early 60s) or very old.

The percentage of people who should get off my lawn seems to be growing faster and faster.
Posted by: JTB at March 25, 2017 06:54 PM (V+03K)

--I accidentally caught the famous Doug Flutie Hail Mary to beat Miami. My grandmother and I were waiting to watch the evening news (damn, it's so long ago that I bothered to watch network evening news) and it was running late because of the game.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:59 PM (GsAUU)

150 I saw Ike (I like Ike) beat Stevenson.

Posted by: Ronster at March 25, 2017 07:00 PM (CDUSe)

151 150 I saw Ike (I like Ike) beat Stevenson.
Posted by: Ronster at March 25, 2017 07:00 PM (CDUSe)

That was the Candidates' Match in '56, right?

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:02 PM (sdi6R)

152 150 I saw Ike (I like Ike) beat Stevenson.
Posted by: Ronster at March 25, 2017 07:00 PM (CDUSe)
---
Vic saw Preston Brooks beat Charles Sumner.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 25, 2017 07:03 PM (PhYV5)

153 I remember seeing George Wallace getting shot on TV. We lived in Alabama. We had a big 25 inch console Magnavox. I remember that I was experimenting with the off and on button to see if TV stopped when you turned it off - if you did it real fast, see, it started back at the same place!

My mother was yelling at me because she wanted to see the news on the TV, because it was important.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 07:03 PM (HV1LS)

154 Footage that I have, but you will probably never see on TV.
Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 06:59 PM (DrCtv)

I can't imagine the kind of stuff that was projected onto the back of Bob Ebeling's eyelids every night for 30 years.

http://tinyurl.com/zze39nx

He did manage to find some peace shortly before he died though, so that's good.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 07:03 PM (8nWyX)

155 LOL @151

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 07:03 PM (EoAgi)

156 I'd like to see Foster Brooks beat Charles Schumer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 25, 2017 07:04 PM (IqV8l)

157 Vic saw Preston Brooks beat Charles Sumner.

Ah, I remember making a booze run that day.

Posted by: Vic's Neighbor at March 25, 2017 07:04 PM (Tyii7)

158 rickl, I can't remember the year, but that sounds about right.

Posted by: Ronster at March 25, 2017 07:04 PM (CDUSe)

159 Samantha Bee ads are like negative fanservice during these TBS games.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:05 PM (GsAUU)

160 Somebody already posted the answer to Problem 2, and I'd add that the only way for Black to avoid mate after 1. Rd8+ is to give up his queen.

1. Rd8+ Kg7
2. Rxc8 and the game is as good as over.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:06 PM (sdi6R)

161 Lived thru Carter. The whole JFK/Ruby thing has me beat, though.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 07:07 PM (hVdx9)

162 Thirdhand, knew some people knew some people who were on recovery team of Challenger. Said it was clear they were alive until impact.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 07:08 PM (HV1LS)

163 Speaking of the Challenger explosion...

The morning it happened I was pissed. Voyager2 was doing a flyby of
Uranus, and all we had in L.A. was the damn NASA channel that only
wanted to cover the Shuttle. I had my recorder set for Voyager, but no,
just the Shuttle.

But when the countdown started, a little voice inside my head said
"Record this". Which I did, and then got amazed at what happened.
Interesting thing on my recording. After the explosion, the
camerafollows an object that is falling. Down down down...

It wasn't until years later that I realized what they were tracking
was the command module as it fell to the ocean. And that's what killed
them. They had blown through the explosion of the rockets.

Footage that I have, but you will probably never see on TV.

Posted by: HH****
I don't know if they were conscious, but I understand they were alive until they hit the water. I pray they were out cold.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 07:09 PM (hVdx9)

164 162 Thirdhand, knew some people knew some people who were on recovery team of Challenger. Said it was clear they were alive until impact.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 07:08 PM (HV1LS)

--That fucking sucks.

Christa McAuliffe, and all her students watching.

And growing up near NASA-Langley I saw a lot of documentaries at the visitors center there, in the process getting a mini-crush on Judith Resnick.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:10 PM (GsAUU)

165 Yes. Some of the PEAPs (emergency O2 bottles) were activated.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 07:11 PM (8nWyX)

166 I remember watching Ed Sullivan when the Beatles appeared in America for the first time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 07:11 PM (Nwg0u)

167 Drudge is linking to Wall Street Journal, "Twilight of the Rock Gods". My thoughts on that:

As far as I know, the 1990s produced exactly one rock band whose music is a touchstone today, namely Nirvana, and the lead for that band shot himself. Everyone touring the big venues for the big bucks now is a geriatric case, from the 1980s or earlier. The youngest is, um, Britney Spears.

This is not to say there wasn't good music in the 1990s. NIN and Garbage were good. The Cure put out "Wild Mood Swings", which was on par with their better stuff. And the 2000 decade's music was great. But none of this stuff was "Nevermind", which itself was no "Rumours" or "Appetite for Destruction" or, hell, "Disintegration".

I saw another of those 1990s acts last year: The Gin Blossoms. They were playing the Louisville Street Faire, for free. Even at that price they didn't get the crowd that, say, Donald Trump got here. Nowhere close.

Rock is deader than dead, the shock is all in your dead, your sex and your dope is all that we're fed, so fuck all your protests and put 'em to bed

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 07:13 PM (3pDNF)

168 127 I was five and living in England. My father said to me "Americans always shoot their best presidents". That's my earliest coherent memory.

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 06:49 PM (EoAgi)

Well, I mean... why not shoot a president?

Posted by: English Bob at March 25, 2017 07:13 PM (V4Qfo)

169 Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:06 PM (sdi6R)

I saw that but forgot about it when typing in the solution. So the first move just wins the queen. There does not seem to be a forced continuation.

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 07:13 PM (EoAgi)

170 Mark
Sanford(the current SC Rep/former Governor who claimed to be hiking the
Appalllachian trail while off with his mistress in Brazil) has some
weird hatred of Trump for ethical reasons. To this day he loves
screaming about Trumps intolerance(racism), taxes and eagerly
anticipates future

confrontations with him.

--Actually, I think it was Argentinian poon, but regardless it may
be The Power of Pussy that colors Sanford's wide stance on immigration.
He may also be a case of a GOPe pol with skeletons in his closet (or,
as Eddie Murphy put it, a cemetery) with blackmail fodder causing him to
behave so.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 06:29 PM (GsAUU)

Any chance of him being successfully primaried?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2017 07:15 PM (FTXAT)

171 I saw Ike (I like Ike) beat Stevenson.
Posted by: Ronster at March 25, 2017 07:00 PM (CDUSe)

No one names their sons "Adlai" anymore.

He was a douche bag so I can see why. I think he accidentally shot someone once if I remember right. Typical democrat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 07:17 PM (5VlCp)

172 I bet Vic was in the lab watching Philo T. Farnsworth.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

173
I don't know if they were conscious, but I understand they were alive until they hit the water.

What condition were the bodies when they were recovered?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 07:18 PM (O96tM)

174 Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 07:11 PM (8nWyX)

Yes, and when I heard about it that's why I went back and looked at the video. It then became obvious what the camera was following.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 07:18 PM (DrCtv)

175 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 07:13 PM (3pDNF)

--Yeah, that's true. A few years ago, the Police reunited, but it was strictly for touring and so they were just a nostalgia act. Even for those who did put out new material, while I did want to see some of them (MBV's last album and the following tour comes to mind), in the back of my mind I just couldn't imagine the same energy being there as if I had seen them 20 years earlier.

Hell, I haven't been a fan of their output for the last 20+ years, but I give credit to U2 for chugging on and not letting themselves become a nostalgia act when touring.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:20 PM (GsAUU)

176 Vic heard the first phone call,
"Mary had a little lamb, it's fleece was white as snow"
He was in the next room.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 07:20 PM (GPaiX)

177 Gonzaga is lethal from beyong the arc tonight.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:20 PM (GsAUU)

178 solutions up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 07:20 PM (WPSd5)

179 Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 07:18 PM (O96tM)

About the bodies, NASA wouldn't say anything. Only that they were recovered.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 07:21 PM (DrCtv)

180 I'd like to see Foster Brooks beat Charles Schumer.

-
He couldn't keep up with Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 07:22 PM (Nwg0u)

181 Any chance of him being successfully primaried?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2017 07:15 PM (FTXAT)

--Can't say. I'm in TX, not SC.

Still, I'm pulling for the 'Cocks.

Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:23 PM (GsAUU)

182 @173

He offers as an example the crew cabin debris discovered on Jan. 29 by a Coast Guard vessel. "It included notebooks, tape recorders, all stuff from the crew compartment," Simpson remembers. It also included an astronaut's helmet, largely intact, containing ears and scalp.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 07:25 PM (HV1LS)

183 178
solutions up.

Thanks ... now I can find my errors.

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 25, 2017 07:26 PM (EoAgi)

184
182 @173

He offers as an example the crew cabin debris discovered on Jan. 29 by a Coast Guard vessel. "It included notebooks, tape recorders, all stuff from the crew compartment," Simpson remembers. It also included an astronaut's helmet, largely intact, containing ears and scalp.

Yeah I thought I remembered there being a story of pretty ghastly details about their bodies.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 07:28 PM (O96tM)

185
The impact of a plane crash will literally tear apart your internal tissues.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (O96tM)

186 OM, there was a Columbo episode from an early season that focused
on a chess master trying to kill a rival. Naturally, Columbo just
happens to be a frustrated chess savant, because of course he is. Have
you seen it? Is it an example of bad chess in fiction, or did they get
it right?

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 05:23 PM (8nWyX)

Missed this one. But I do know that chess masters are murderers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (WPSd5)

187 I don't know if they were conscious, but I understand they were alive until they hit the water.

What condition were the bodies when they were recovered?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX
****
From what "experts" have said, the bodies would have been in pieces.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (hVdx9)

188
noood movies

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (O96tM)

189 Still, I'm pulling for the 'Cocks.
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 25, 2017 07:23 PM (GsAUU)

Uh...

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 07:30 PM (WPSd5)

190 Many years ago, the National Enquirer published what they claimed to be a transcript of Challenger's cockpit voice recorder. If it was a fake, it was a damn good one. The snippets of conversation seemed very believable. I probably still have it somewhere in my bottomless piles of stuff.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:31 PM (sdi6R)

191 BreakingNLive
25/03/17 19:23
BREAKING NEWS HAPPENING NOW; A car has rammed into a pedestrian area ramming down people in #Islington, #UK, huge police activity
DEVELOPING

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 07:38 PM (y3aQB)

192 187
From what "experts" have said, the bodies would have been in pieces.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (hVdx9)

From the impact with the ocean, though, not from the original explosion. The explosion caused the breakup of the vehicle, but the crew cabin was pretty much intact on the way down.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:39 PM (sdi6R)

193 Did you see Challenger live in the TV room

Did you not bother going into the part-time gig at Goddard that day?

Posted by: Thrown off Vics lawn when he still mowed it by hand. at March 25, 2017 07:39 PM (FhXTo)

194 BreakingNLive
25/03/17 19:44
BREAKING; Scene in #Islington, #London right now. At least 4 injured after car ploughs into people. Police say not terror related.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 07:39 PM (y3aQB)

195 There's an astronaut - I don't recall his name - who wrote a hypothetical narration of what was going on in one of his books. I can't find the particular passage, but it's pretty much as grim as you'd expect. On the flight deck, they're trying to the last instant to fly a cabin with no wings all the way down. McNair, Jarvis, and McAuliffe are in the mid-deck, in complete darkness, that sort of thing. It's one of those passages in a book where you can tell the author really needs to get it out, but it's gonna hurt to do so.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 07:41 PM (8nWyX)

196 Missed this one. But I do know that chess masters are murderers.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 25, 2017 07:29 PM (WPSd5)

You can search around for The Most Dangerous Match; it's from season 2. They used to be on Netflix but got rotated off Because Reasons.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 07:45 PM (8nWyX)

197 In Rand Simberg's book "Safe is Not an Option", the prologue describes Columbia's fatal re-entry in great detail. The information was taken from the official investigation report.

Good book, by the way.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mv4x8kq

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

198 162 Thirdhand, knew some people knew some people who were on recovery team of Challenger. Said it was clear they were alive until impact.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 07:08 PM (HV1LS)

Remember that article about the Pearl Harbor salvors who went into a sunken a week after the attack and found a wind up clock (with a spring good for three days max) was still running? There were no survivors.... They say you can still hear them taping on the hull.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2017 07:51 PM (P/kVC)

199 Endgame
7.Qd5 Kg1

++++

Black can gum up the works with e4 instead of Kg1. If you zigzag down instead, black can't get in the way. Takes a few more steps to get to mate than 13, but black can't stop it.

7.Qf7+ Kg1
8.Qg6+ Kf1
9.Qf5+ Kg2
10.Qg4+ Kf2
11.Qh3 h1=Q
12.Qxh1 ...

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 25, 2017 08:00 PM (R+30W)

200 On problem 1, there's an alternate path:

1: Qf3 Bxf3
2: Kf2!

The key is getting the queen off of f2 in such a way as to not impede the rook at f7 from closing off the f rank and force white's responses.

Posted by: Jenos Idanian at March 25, 2017 10:09 PM (Qf0BO)

201 Having looked at the links for vintage chess sets, I have to say that the Staunton design is the best ever. There's a good reason why it became the standard.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

202 In the endgame position, it's the second black pawn, of course, that prevents the position from developing into a classic drawn position.

Posted by: civil truth at March 26, 2017 03:07 AM (t3LBb)

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