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Judge Sides With Trump, Says Travel Ban Neither Discriminatory Nor Unconstitutional

Assuming the circuit court agrees, that would set up a necessary Supreme Court showdown to harmonize the divergent rulings.

A federal judge in Virginia ruled Friday against blocking President Trump’s executive order that called for temporarily stopping the entry of immigrants from six majority-Muslim nations and refugee admittance overall.

The decision against the injunction comes after federal judges in Maryland and Hawaii blocked the implementation of Trump’s executive order nationwide. The ruling in Maryland is set to be heard before an appeals court in May. These two past decisions keep the order at bay.

Judge Anthony Trenga of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia found that Trump was within his legal rights to impose the travel ban and that it was not discriminatory toward Muslims. The injunction had been brought forward by Palestinian activist Linda Sarsour, who was represented by an attorney from the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"

I don't know.

Hopefully a lawyer can tell us.

Posted by: Ace at 06:44 PM




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Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 24, 2017 06:38 PM (89T5c)

2 I'll collect the others.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 24, 2017 06:38 PM (kTF2Z)

3 Yea....a lawyer....they'll save us...


Where's my gun?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 24, 2017 06:38 PM (zsHGH)

4 "Hopefully a lawyer can tell us." YES - "Lawyer" here, and I believe a Texas Cage Match is necessary in this case. Two judges enter, one judge leaves.

Posted by: Thor at March 24, 2017 06:40 PM (asL+3)

5
You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge
claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but
another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"


I don't know.


Hopefully a lawyer can tell us.



Posted by Ace at 06:44 PM



Comments


Normally when two circuit courts or appellate courts disagree it is a straight shot to SCOTUS. But until Gorsch gets appointed that is useless.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 24, 2017 06:40 PM (mpXpK)

6 th

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 24, 2017 06:40 PM (gwPgz)

7 Two lawyers enter...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (IqV8l)

8 I know it's very Idiocracy, but I wish we had more judges in the Macho Man Randy Savage mold.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (zsHGH)

9 "You're probably wondering, 'What happens when one federal judge claims
to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another
judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?'"

Well, obviously, a cage match.

Or ought to be.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (noWW6)

10 I think it is like a Texas cage match.

Two judges enter, one judge leaves.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (HV1LS)

11 I think it's a tax!

Posted by: Dread Judge Roberts at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (gwPgz)

12 I don't know.

Hopefully a lawyer can tell us.


The Thunderdome.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2017 06:41 PM (8ZskC)

13 How about we just send all the "refugees" to Hawaii?

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:42 PM (vsYKI)

14 You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge

claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but

another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"


They fight in The Octagon!

Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 06:42 PM (qJhUV)

15 I'm guessing if 1 judge says no and 1 says yes, then no wins.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (vsYKI)

16 AtC? AtC to the courtesy phone please?

Posted by: golfman at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (48QDY)

17
I nominate Paul Ryan!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (mbhDw)

18 You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"
------

Sounds like a job for ME!

Posted by: The Parliamentarian Avenger at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (1CtvB)

19 They fight in The Octagon!

Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 06:42 PM (qJhUV)


There was a short story from years ago where legal disputes were settled with duels by champions for each side. I wish I could find it again.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (Tnhbr)

20 Hopefully a lawyer can tell us ...

Pistols at 20 paces, at dawn

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (zZb/S)

21 Slap fight!

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (Fmupd)

22 The decision of the circuit's court controls the law as it is applied in the circuit. Different circuits can have different rule until the Supreme Court resolves the issue.

That'll be $200.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (8ZskC)

23 I'm just glad I wouldn't see Chelsea's puss after every comment

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (GPaiX)

24 SO, umm, my GAINZZZ.

Burgers. Plus bacon. Plus gorgonzola.

LOOOW carb.


The sugar cookies and Moscow Mule? Not so much.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (HV1LS)

25 I'm a lawyer! I can tell you that, well, no I can't. I practice land use law in the Breakaway Sanctuary City of San Francisco.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (dZ756)

26 You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"

I propose they settle it with a duel.

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (sdi6R)

27
Sarsour, the Hamas Louse. Of course. Can we ship her out with Rasmea Odeh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (mbhDw)

28 AtC? AtC to the courtesy phone please?
Posted by: golfman at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (48QDY)


We're still waiting to hear more of her thoughts on the best way to bring a woman to orgasm. With details. Copious details.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (Tnhbr)

29
There was a short story from years ago where legal disputes were settled with duels by champions for each side. I wish I could find it again.



Game of Torts.

Posted by: eleven at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (qUNWi)

30 2 judges enter, 1 judge leaves

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (GPaiX)

31 13
How about we just send all the "refugees" to Hawaii?

Posted by: #neverskankles

It would tip over.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (dZ756)

32 29
There was a short story from years ago where legal disputes were settled with duels by champions for each side. I wish I could find it again.


Game of Torts.
Posted by: eleven at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (qUNWi)


I'd like a nice rigo tort. And an espresso.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (mbhDw)

33 I'm just glad I wouldn't see Chelsea's puss after every comment

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (GPaiX)


Are we, or are we NOT doing phrasing?

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (HV1LS)

34 13 How about we just send all the "refugees" to Hawaii?

It'll tip over, won't it?

Posted by: Hank Johnson at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (t2jUW)

35 Rock, scissors, paper, lizard, Spock?

Posted by: Strobe at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (gbWkA)

36 What does Dick Morris say?

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (1CtvB)

37 20 Hopefully a lawyer can tell us ...

Pistols at 20 paces, at dawn
Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:43 PM (zZb/S)

a Case of Rapiers.... ie TWO Rapiers each...

(my favorite style as I am ambidextrous...).

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

38 You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge claims
to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another
judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"

I don't know.

Hopefully a lawyer can tell us.



Posted by: Ace at 06:44 PM


Total protonic reversal.

Well, you asked...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (p+Wdc)

39 Chelsea's what?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (IqV8l)

40 Slap fight!


In Brooks Brothers suits.

Posted by: eleven at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (qUNWi)

41 BREAKING: At least 3 wounded during shooting near metro station in Lille, France.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (y3aQB)

42 "Judge Anthony Trenga of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District
of Virginia found that Trump was within his legal rights to impose the
travel ban and that it was not discriminatory toward Muslims."

Would be nice to have a judge point out that such bans were specifically and formally made the responsibility of Congress by the Constitution, and that Congress has since explicitly delegated all of said authority to the President via the U.S. Code, and that a President can enact whatever bans upon whatever grounds a President thus desires, _including the hypothetical circumstance of explicitly discriminatory and biased grounds_. End of transmission.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (noWW6)

43 I like that a half dozen or so of the horde's first two dozen comments involved a cage match.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (/f1mm)

44 Hopefully a lawyer can tell us.

The Thunderdome.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

Can't we all just get BEYOND Thunderdome?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (zsHGH)

45 The wavefunction collapses?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (8ZskC)

46 Karl Rove can explain it on a white board.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (IqV8l)

47 22 The decision of the circuit's court controls the law as it is applied in the circuit. Different circuits can have different rule until the Supreme Court resolves the issue.

That'll be $200.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (8ZskC)

So explain to me how 2 Judges have put a hold on the order for the entire country???

Oh.... over reaching their limited authority?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (NgKpN)

48 a Case of Rapiers.... ie TWO Rapiers each...

(my favorite style as I am ambidextrous...).
Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (NgKpN)


Fucking Italians...

Posted by: George Silver at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (Tnhbr)

49 Believe they resolve circuit disputes with an ohmmeter.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (FtrY1)

50 Good god with the hyperbole on Drudge. Showing a photo of the Hindenberg and saying republican catastrophe.

Posted by: keena at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (RiTnx)

51 Rock, scissors, paper, lizard, Spock?


How can lizard beat any of those?

Posted by: eleven at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (qUNWi)

52 50 Good god with the hyperbole on Drudge. Showing a photo of the Hindenberg and saying republican catastrophe.

I know...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (O2RFr)

53 I don't want to see her puss, either.

Posted by: Marc Mezvinsky at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (89T5c)

54 I don't want to see her puss, either.

That's an insult to pusses everywhere...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 24, 2017 06:49 PM (O2RFr)

55 I would have liked the Virginia judge to rule -- this a matter of national security and the US Congress has not delegated any authority to the Judicial branch to address this matter. Your case is moot, go see the legislature. Next.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:49 PM (zZb/S)

56 It feels good basking in the glow of ideological purity.
Right?

Posted by: Eskimo at March 24, 2017 06:49 PM (ucTcT)

57 I'll settle this.

Posted by: Judge Dredd at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (1CtvB)

58 33 I'm just glad I wouldn't see Chelsea's puss after every comment

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 06:44 PM (GPaiX)

Are we, or are we NOT doing phrasing?
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 06:45 PM (HV1LS)

Set the Phrasers on Kill Mr Sulu!

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (NgKpN)

59 Visual on the news: Delivery van at top of road develops fuel leak and catches on fire, the leaking fuel runs down hill catching five more cars on fire.
Fuel for thought.

Posted by: gNewt at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (lZ9yI)

60 I don't want to see her puss, either.
Posted by: Marc Mezvinsky at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (89T5c)


The teeth down there are just as big?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (Tnhbr)

61 a Case of Rapiers.... ie TWO Rapiers each...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

I'll remind you that was never proven and was settled out of court anyway.

Posted by: President Bill Clinton at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (/f1mm)

62
Good god with the hyperbole on Drudge. Showing a photo of the Hindenberg

Led Zeppelin!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)

63
True or False?

I was working as a cocktail waitress.



(name the band and the song)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (qTQac)

64 Is it a travel ban, or is it a temporary suspension while the vetting process is improved?

If the latter, why call it a ban?

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 06:51 PM (XoldI)

65 http://bit.ly/2nNY5Tn
----
College 'Diversity Council' Admits to Posting Fake Racist Flyers On Campus

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 06:51 PM (y3aQB)

66 Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors.

Posted by: Sheldon Cooper, PhD at March 24, 2017 06:51 PM (gbWkA)

67 48 a Case of Rapiers.... ie TWO Rapiers each...

(my favorite style as I am ambidextrous...).
Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

Fucking Italians...
Posted by: George Silver at March 24, 2017 06:48 PM (Tnhbr)

Well.... I also do Florentine....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 06:51 PM (NgKpN)

68 41 BREAKING: At least 3 wounded during shooting near metro station in Lille, France.
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 06:47 PM (y3aQB)

____

He was really upset about the Obamacare non-vote.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:51 PM (vsYKI)

69 Erdogan said that Europeans should be afraid to walk the streets ....

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:52 PM (zZb/S)

70 Dude, it's a turtle tank down there.

Posted by: Marc Mezvinsky at March 24, 2017 06:52 PM (89T5c)

71 @Soothsayer FALSE.

FAKE NEWS.

You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar.

When I met you.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 06:52 PM (HV1LS)

72 63
True or False?

I was working as a cocktail waitress.



(name the band and the song)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (qTQac)

It's true,
The human league
Don't you want me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 06:52 PM (u8Ywb)

73 Why isn't this Linda Sarsour scrunt being deported, or at least charged with sedition?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 24, 2017 06:53 PM (WDdjT)

74 Yeah Drudge is a little over the top tonight. But whatevs.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:53 PM (vsYKI)

75 56 It feels good basking in the glow of ideological purity.
Right?
Posted by: Eskimo at March 24, 2017 06:49 PM (ucTcT)


Let me get this straight. For years we've been bitching about the GOP doing nothing or worse, collaborating with Democrats. And when the opportunity presents itself to actually craft legislation that rolls things back, we merely rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic plus add insurance for illegals and more backdoor gun grabbing. Yet those who protest are called "purist."

Just want to get it straight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)

76 NPR having a smuckle over Trump's and the GOP's failure to even take a swat at Obamacare, noting, and I agree with this, that the loss of momentum will make it tougher for them to accomplish anything at all.

Anything. At. All.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (7cbB8)

77 Led Zeppelin!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)
----------------

It wasn't the hill to die on. Too far away.

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (1CtvB)

78 http://bit.ly/2nO64zF
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U.K. Authorities Make Two 'Significant Arrests' Related to Terrorist Attack
----
Thought the guy just went batshit crazy???

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (y3aQB)

79 What JJ said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (zsHGH)

80 (name the band and the song)

is there a prize ??

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (c6/9Q)

81 Also on Drudge....72% of babies born in NM are on Medicaid. 24 states are 50%.

Good fucking lord

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (vsYKI)

82 (name the band and the song)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (qTQac)

Human League

Don't you want me.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (d76uN)

83 Because the temporary suspension is being administered in a temporary building built during WW2, by an agency that exists under a temporary statue (DHS) passed in response to 9/11, funded by temporary fee assessed on airline passengers for security after 9/11.

Temporary in DC is forever

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (zZb/S)

84 Good god with the hyperbole on Drudge. Showing a photo of the Hindenberg and saying republican catastrophe.
Posted by: keena

_______

I think Drudge is largely right.

Trump basically said he's going to move on if it couldn't move past this point.

Why would he come back to this? It would just be another humilating set back. He'd rather talk about jobs, trade policies, taxes, etc.

I think ObamaCare is just going to be part of the healthcare landscape now.

You either get it free or pay through the nose.

Posted by: Maritime at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (mKRm7)

85 13 How about we just send all the "refugees" to Hawaii?
________________________

I saw that the judge has been getting death threats.

Tried to care, but could not.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (riF5p)

86 82 (name the band and the song)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (qTQac)

Human League

Don't you want me.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (d76uN)


I always thought he was singing "don't chew on me."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (mbhDw)

87 >> Slap fight!

In Brooks Brothers suits.
Posted by: eleven


Please. Your hard-won tax dollars can afford us bespoke. And custom blow jobs.

Posted by: Your Betters in DC (R) at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (GgzGa)

88 Let me get this straight. For years we've been bitching about the GOP doing nothing or worse, collaborating with Democrats. And when the opportunity presents itself to actually craft legislation that rolls things back, we merely rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic plus add insurance for illegals and more backdoor gun grabbing. Yet those who protest are called "purist."

Just want to get it straight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)

____

Backdoor gun grabbing? Not doubting you, I just never heard about that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (vsYKI)

89 78
http://bit.ly/2nO64zF

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U.K. Authorities Make Two 'Significant Arrests' Related to Terrorist Attack

----

Thought the guy just went batshit crazy???

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 06:54 PM (y3aQB)

Two significant arrests, after the lone wolf perp was shot dead.
Did they arrest the people who shot him?

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (XoldI)

90 I was working as a cocktail waitress.



(name the band and the song)
------------

Megadeth
Symphony of Destruction

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (1CtvB)

91 Martha Maccallum is going to interview lawyers involved in the Rockville rape case.

Posted by: gNewt at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (lZ9yI)

92
It's true,
The human league
Don't you want me.



Yes.


(blaster is too technical lawyery!)

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (qTQac)

93 "The decision of the circuit's court controls the law as it is applied in
the circuit. Different circuits can have different rule until the
Supreme Court resolves the issue"

I don't know if it's still in effect, but at one point there was actually a circuit split regarding the consequences of circuit splits. How meta.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (noWW6)

94 Also on Drudge....72% of babies born in NM are on Medicaid. 24 states are 50%.

It's almost like subsidizing poverty gets you more.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (oVJmc)

95 88
Backdoor gun grabbing? Not doubting you, I just never heard about that.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (vsYKI)


Full disclosure: I have not seen it either but have heard it from impeccable sources on this here blog.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (mbhDw)

96 VA judge found that plaintiff had standing but otherwise ruled for Trump. Plaintiff asked for an injunction (to pile on with MD and Hawaii) but judge said no. So his ruling has no direct effect on the other injunctions. It just sets up that the Fourth Circuit will likely deal with the divergent VA and MD rulings together.

District judges purporting to make their rulings apply nationwide is party of the insanity that SCOTUS should and will slap down, most likely 7-2 or better. (e.g., Kagan knows to not look stupid or biased when a case is a loser).

I've posted this before but thought worth repeating to show the absurdity of the anti-Trump rulings:

Ninth Circuit said that Trump had a Bad Heart and so upheld Seattle's knocking down the Old Travel Pause Order. Hawaii judge says the same thing about the New Travel Pause Order, ignoring the changes that were made, because Trump still has a Bad Heart.
So the Hawaii judge addresses, well, what must Trump do to not have a Bad Heart, so that he can do what Congress has already authorized him to do.

Answer is in footnote 17 of his opinion. Translating from the High Legalese, a heartfelt public and abject apology by Trump to Muslims everywhere is required. And he must bring the judge a shrubbery

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (SIY7D)

97 Just saying, but the people on the radio here who are saying this bill failure is a Republican Disaster are the same people who were saying Trump had zero chance of being elected. So frankly, I'm taking the position that if people I trust are happy, and people I distrust are unhappy....then this is a good thing.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (2VN2E)

98
Megadeth
Symphony of Destruction
Posted by: Mega


Ding, ding, ding. We have WiNNNAH~!

Posted by: Your Betters in DC (R) at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (GgzGa)

99 So because OCare repeal wasn't done in 2 months, it means it can't ever be done? Bullshit. Do tax cuts and then come back in the fall and try again, this time with an actual, you know.....REPEAL bill.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (vsYKI)

100 Not sure where I read it today (Drudge or Breitbart), but ICE is slow walking visas from these 6 countries anyway.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (DeU1P)

101 fed judge VA > fed judge HI + fed judge MD

Some type of Math or weasel or something

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (HgMAr)

102 When one judge says one thing and another judge says something different it's time to call in the Amazing Randi and let him figure out who the fraud is.

If he was good enough to cut off Alice Cooper's head, he should be good enough for that.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (5VlCp)

103 That was Han Solo's only solo. If Flopped and it was "don't Chewie, on me".

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (d76uN)

104
Trump needs to tweet: I don't know what the Democrats are celebrating for -- millions of working Americans are going broke paying for obamacare.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:59 PM (qTQac)

105 Answer is in footnote 17 of his opinion. Translating from the High Legalese, a heartfelt public and abject apology by Trump to Muslims everywhere is required. And he must bring the judge a shrubbery

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (SIY7D)


Worst part of that is only part of it is made up.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 06:59 PM (HV1LS)

106 74
Yeah Drudge is a little over the top tonight. But whatevs.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:53 PM (vsYKI)
-------------------------------
Just a prelude. ARRRG

Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 06:59 PM (yOqwj)

107 the Constitution is very clear: the worst ruling from the country's point of view and the best ruling from the Democratic Party stands.

Now shut up or we'll filibuster, buster.

Posted by: the Honorable Charles Schumer at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (b7fwp)

108 I always thought he was singing "don't chew on me."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (


Did you really? That's funny.

The song is playing in my head now.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (u8Ywb)

109 and i commented on a dead thread.

so i have to repeat here; "What's with that phallic imagery, Drudge ?"

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (c6/9Q)

110 100 Not sure where I read it today (Drudge or Breitbart), but ICE is slow walking visas from these 6 countries anyway.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at March 24, 2017 06:58 PM (DeU1P)

___

ICE doesn't issue visas.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (vsYKI)

111
Trump needs to tweet this too: If obamacare is so great, why isn't Pelosi and all the Democrats on it?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (qTQac)

112 Matt Drudge's level of concern:

[x]Noted

[ ]Not Noted

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (HV1LS)

113 You're probably wondering, "What happens when..."

Coin flip at ten paces.

It's one of the emanating penumbras.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (1CroS)

114 97 Just saying, but the people on the radio here who are saying this bill failure is a Republican Disaster are the same people who were saying Trump had zero chance of being elected. So frankly, I'm taking the position that if people I trust are happy, and people I distrust are unhappy....then this is a good thing.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 24, 2017 06:57 PM (2VN2E)


I'm happy only in the sense I'm relieved that now maybe we can strip out all the special interest BS and craft real repeal measures.

And if it has to be done piecemeal because of the process, I'm down for that struggle. But to dress up a phony-baloney shit show and call it "repeal and replace" was and still is unacceptable.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)

115
The song is playing in my head now.


That was the point!

Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 07:01 PM (qTQac)

116 well, good thing Gorsuch is now a Supreme Court Justice ! wait, he isn't

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (c6/9Q)

117 perhaps PDT let the left wing of the repbublicans go first, lose , ocare dies right wing does it right. just like he does in development.

Posted by: vizzy at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (TdKpj)

118 Time to take Grandpa's keys away:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k3kx45r

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (oVJmc)

119 108 I always thought he was singing "don't chew on me."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (


Did you really? That's funny.

The song is playing in my head now.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (u8Ywb)


There was a Chips Ahoy commercial a few years back with a clay-mation cookie singing the song and I could swear that was what was playing, because 2 seconds later a giant hand comes in and then a bite is taken out of him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (mbhDw)

120 81 Also on Drudge....72% of babies born in NM are on Medicaid. 24 states are 50%.

Good fucking lord
_______________________

There was a WaPo piece the other day that said 1/4 of all Medicaid births in TX are to illegal alien mothers. It costs taxpayers $116 billion a year. That's 54,000 TX anchor babies who will be entitled to food stamps, welfare, and all the other benefits of U.S. citizenship -- not to mention the family members who get to remain in the U.S. because they now have a "U.S. citizen" dependent here.

The costs of illegal immigration are enormous. We can't even afford to provide our own veterans with the health care we promised them, and yet for years we've been waving in millions of poor (and criminal) illegal aliens, and pretending that we can afford the hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer-funded services that they suck up here every year.

It's madness.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (riF5p)

121 Dude, it's a turtle tank down there.

Posted by: Marc Mezvinsky at March 24, 2017 06:52 PM (89T5c)
..........

Throw some lemons in it.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (HgMAr)

122 Here's another.

Cliterectomies of girls under 18 are banned by federal legislation, but not male circumcisions?

Is that religious-based discrimination prohibited by the Constitution?

The logic of the Hawaii judge says yes, if the sponsors of the legislation had ever dissed Muslims before enactment

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (SIY7D)

123 I'm happy only in the sense I'm relieved that now maybe we can strip out all the special interest BS and craft real repeal measures.

And if it has to be done piecemeal because of the process, I'm down for that struggle. But to dress up a phony-baloney shit show and call it "repeal and replace" was and still is unacceptable.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw

____

Me too. And if it can't be done, fine, it won't be done. Trump is right, it will collapse. Another year or two of 100% increases and it's dead, replacement bill or no replacement bill.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:03 PM (vsYKI)

124 I blame Obama.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (HgMAr)

125
Repealing obamacare was a slam dunk, politically.

Only fools or people who really didn't want to repeal it could blow it.

Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (qTQac)

126 122 Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (SIY7D)

Clitoridectomies are mutilation. Circumcision actually promotes health/cleanliness and makes, get this, orgasms more intense.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (mbhDw)

127 OT: Mo Brooks is submitting a bill that ends all provisions of the ACA on 12/31/17. He says this will give congress the remainder of the year to decide on the replacement measures it wants.

This sounds quite reasonable to me.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (97XyN)

128 can someone give me an example or two or three of "special interest BS" in that bill that went down ?

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (c6/9Q)

129 127 OT: Mo Brooks is submitting a bill that ends all provisions of the ACA on 12/31/17. He says this will give congress the remainder of the year to decide on the replacement measures it wants.

This sounds quite reasonable to me.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (97XyN)


____

It's reasonable. Hence has a less than 0% chance of becoming law.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (vsYKI)

130 Backdoor gun grabbing? Not doubting you, I just never heard about that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (vsYKI)

----------------------------------

They, the House, passed a law protecting veterans gun rights. There was a provision, somewhere, that vets who had someone else doing their finances were blocked, due to the mental health thing. YAY

Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (yOqwj)

131 125
Repealing obamacare was a slam dunk, politically.

Only fools or people who really didn't want to repeal it could blow it.
Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (qTQac)


Did you really think that the AHCA RynoCare was a repeal and a quick path back to free market health care and insurance?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (mbhDw)

132 Re: Drudge pic:

Nobody's fault but mine.

Posted by: John Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (HgMAr)

133 Now is the time for Price to step up and use all those "the Secretary shall" powers granted to him in Ocare. If he does that what's left to negotiate will look considerably different.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (3k5gg)

134 Ryan could lose the speakership?

Like I give a fuck. Yes, please.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (89T5c)

135 132 Re: Drudge pic:

Nobody's fault but mine.
Posted by: John Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (HgMAr)


Another Zeppelin reference?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (mbhDw)

136 I am not hardover on Obamacare one way or other. The government is still going to be in healthcare way more than it should be either way.

However, the Republicans who claimed to have sent bills that repeal Obamacare to the President for his veto only have themselves to blame for the expectations that they set.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (HV1LS)

137 Bush beats Clinton puss every time.

Posted by: Bush Twins at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (bc2Lc)

138 128 can someone give me an example or two or three of "special interest BS" in that bill that went down ?
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM (c6/9Q)

____

I don't think there were any special interests per se that got rich of the bill. It just didn't change anything. It was Obamacare with a fresh coat of paint. But the underlying walls were still rotten to the core and full of termites.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (vsYKI)

139 OT: Mo Brooks is submitting a bill that ends all provisions of the ACA on 12/31/17. He says this will give congress the remainder of the year to decide on the replacement measures it wants.

This sounds quite reasonable to me.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud

__________

What do "provisions" mean?

At the very least, one would think you could do something politically palatable like freeze new enrollment for Obamacare and all new Medicaid expansion.


IF Trump were smart politically, he would probably just walk away from tweaking it and just run on Democrats wanting to keep ObamaCare.

It's just going to be hard when Republicans control Congress to make that case.

Posted by: Maritime at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (mKRm7)

140 134 Ryan could lose the speakership?

Like I give a fuck. Yes, please.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 24, 2017 07:06 PM (89T5c)


He'll be replaced with Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise. Goody gumdrops.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (mbhDw)

141 "not to mention the family members who get to remain in the U.S. because they now have a 'U.S. citizen' dependent here"

It's not limited to their being able to remain.

The state's social service agencies in Commiefornia roll out the red carpet for adult illegals who have anchor babies. Food and housing and energy subsidies, free medical care, the works.

Gotta make sure that the grownups have everything they need in order to care for the dependent chilluns, you see.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (noWW6)

142 I'm a lawyer! I can tell you... for $620/hour.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (CLKfs)

143 spicer didn't seem to keen on ryan......

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (0O7c5)

144 "What happens when..."



Coin flip at ten paces.


Mumbldely-peg?
Dance Off?

or today,
Oral service contest?

Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (FhXTo)

145 Ryancare failing was a GOOD thing.

Now, Trump can have his staff frame and draft a proper:

* Repeal of Obamacare.

...* with certain in-place factors of O-care being grandfathered, until they're fully replaced by the incoming Freedom Care provisions.

* Freedom Care Bill, featuring:

... true 50 state marketplace for plans.

... group plan framework for group authorizations.

... strong Health Savings Account provisions.

... etc.


The O'care REPEAL needs to be simple language, such as "The ACA is hereby REPEALED, save for the following, temporary, grandfathered provisions, which expire on xx/xx/xxxx.

Plain, simple, effective.

And now, Trump can say to Ryan:

"You got to try it your way. Now, you're GOING to do it MY WAY!" (out of the way, asshole, implied)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (v5iqM)

146 88 Backdoor gun grabbing? Not doubting you, I just never heard about that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 06:56 PM (vsYKI)


From yesterday's morning thread

19
RINO Ryan's Repubocare bill contains stealth gun control measures. What else does it have in it?


http://tinyurl.com/kevtcdo



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2017 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (mpXpK)

147 "He'll be replaced with Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise."

Dennis Hastert! Come back! All is forgiven!

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (noWW6)

148 Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM

So if grandpa uses HR Block, they take his guns away?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 24, 2017 07:09 PM (S2VsH)

149 And by YAY I mean that gun buying bock was overturned. Sorry I'm sloppy on the details.

Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 07:09 PM (yOqwj)

150 146 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (mpXpK)

Nice! Vic is my unimpeachable source I mentioned.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:09 PM (mbhDw)

151 147 "He'll be replaced with Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise."

Dennis Hastert! Come back! All is forgiven!
Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 07:08 PM (noWW6)


Pfft. Give me Tom Delay for the revenge factor alone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (mbhDw)

152 Interesting about the gun control stuff. Thanks for posting.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (vsYKI)

153 143 spicer didn't seem to keen on ryan......
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (0O7c5)


Gotta tell ya....I'm not too impressed with Spicer.

Jus sayin

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (7EZo5)

154 Ryancare failing was a GOOD thing.

Now, Trump can have his staff frame and draft a proper:

* Repeal of Obamacare.

______

This may have been one of the few times Ryan was to the Right of what Trump wanted.

Everything I've seen is Trump wanted a replacement bill that basically did the same thing ObamaCare tried to do.

You can't "fix" healthcare unless you stop robbing Peter to pay Paul

Posted by: Maritime at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (mKRm7)

155 So if I weigh 400 lbs, smoke 3 packs a day and drink a 12 pack daily.....I can't be denied insurance. But if I own a gun, I can be denied insurance.

How very "conservative" of Paul Ryan.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (vsYKI)

156 152 Interesting about the gun control stuff. Thanks for posting.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (vsYKI)


This is why my head explodes when folks start bitching about "purists" and "ideological purity."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (mbhDw)

157 126 122 Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:02 PM (SIY7D)

Clitoridectomies are mutilation. Circumcision actually promotes health/cleanliness and makes, get this, orgasms more intense.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:04 PM (mbhDw)

++++

Circumcision is mutilation. Your attempts at justification don't change the fact that a part of a baby's anatomy is being sliced off.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (R+30W)

158 @126 I wasn't actually criticizing circumcisions.

Some people have argued that it's genital mutilation.
Many I'd bet are pro-Muslim. And radical feminists.


Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (SIY7D)

159 Working as a waitress in a cocktail bar...
That much is true.

But even then I knew I'd have a much better life.

Either with or without you.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (CLKfs)

160 He'll be replaced with Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise. Goody gumdrops. Posted by: J.J. Seftn at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (mbhDw)
=====

Still wondering how Scalise was allowed into the Republican Establishment because he looks like a normal person. Most of them look like blow-dried hairhat clones.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (MIKMs)

161 Gotta tell ya....I'm not too impressed with Spicer.



Jus sayin

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (7EZo5)
lol, me either....

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 24, 2017 07:12 PM (0O7c5)

162 155 So if I weigh 400 lbs, smoke 3 packs a day and drink a 12 pack daily.....I can't be denied insurance. But if I own a gun, I can be denied insurance.

How very "conservative" of Paul Ryan.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (vsYKI


Paul Ryan: Putting the "CON" back in "conservative."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:12 PM (mbhDw)

163 Since when did a District Court judge assume authority over the whole country?

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2017 07:12 PM (4MSOz)

164 Knew I shoulda tried a different color nipple rouge today.

Posted by: Ru Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:12 PM (HgMAr)

165 Ryan is like cartel leader. You put him in jail and the guy that takes over is even worse. Look at the progression from Hastert to Boner to Ryan....they get worse and worse with each change.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (vsYKI)

166 Once again, the onus is on Price. He has the legislative power to gut this from stem to stern.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (3k5gg)

167 Gotta tell ya....I'm not too impressed with Spicer.



Jus sayin

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:10 PM (7EZo5)


Yeah he is a puss.

He could poke out the eye of one his press tormenters and skullfuck the socket JUST ONCE...but NOOOOOO....

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (HV1LS)

168 If Ryan is out, who is favored to replace him?

Posted by: IC at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (a0IVu)

169 157
Circumcision is mutilation. Your attempts at justification don't change the fact that a part of a baby's anatomy is being sliced off.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (R+30W)


The one thing in common is the slicing. The motives, the methods and the pain are quite something else entirely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (mbhDw)

170 Bill seemed like plagiarism to me, Obummer Care Light

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (GPaiX)

171 My dear old Dad used to remind me almost daily, " Patience is a Saintly virtue. ever since june 2015 And I have not been disappointed. Pelosi is a scrunt hrcwnbp

Posted by: vizzy at March 24, 2017 07:14 PM (TdKpj)

172 164 Knew I shoulda tried a different color nipple rouge today.
Posted by: Ru Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:12 PM (HgMAr)


And that was supposed to be my picture for the morning thread before my computer farted. Ru Paul with the headline:

"We Said REPEAL!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (mbhDw)

173 Watch me blow this.

Posted by: Ru Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (HgMAr)

174 Ryan is like cartel leader. You put him in jail and the guy that takes over is even worse. Look at the progression from Hastert to Boner to Ryan....they get worse and worse with each change.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (vsYKI)


I foresee a photoshop pasting Ryan's head on El Chapo's body in 3...2....1...

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (51PdX)

175 The failure of the passage of Rcare allows Ocare to fail without any GOP involvement, fully owned by the Dems.

The Dems will then try to push for Single Payer, but with the stench of the failure of their Ocare in the air.

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (XoldI)

176 I'm willing to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt on the gun thing, in that it probably isn't changeable within a reconciliation vote. I don't think there's anything about tax money in the gun provision so removing it wouldn't save any money, hence it would need 60 votes in the senate to undo.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (vsYKI)

177 168 If Ryan is out, who is favored to replace him?
Posted by: IC at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (a0IVu)

I'm tanned rested and ready bitches!!

Posted by: Newt at March 24, 2017 07:16 PM (vsYKI)

178 176
I'm willing to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt on the gun thing, in
that it probably isn't changeable within a reconciliation vote. I don't
think there's anything about tax money in the gun provision so removing
it wouldn't save any money, hence it would need 60 votes in the senate
to undo.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (vsYKI)
i'm not

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 24, 2017 07:16 PM (0O7c5)

179 He could poke out the eye of one his press tormenters and skullfuck the socket JUST ONCE...but NOOOOOO....
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (HV1LS)


I sorta liked Ari Fleischer's good-humored bitchiness. Also liked Tony Snow in that job.

Everyone else....meh. They all sucked. Both Ds and Rs.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:16 PM (51PdX)

180 148
Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 07:05 PM

So if grandpa uses HR Block, they take his guns away?


Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 24, 2017 07:09 PM (S2VsH)
-------------------The problem http://tinyurl.com/ospgem8
The proposed solution http://tinyurl.com/mpyckzd
And it ain't just grandpa at the VA

Posted by: Javems at March 24, 2017 07:17 PM (yOqwj)

181 176
I'm willing to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt on the gun thing, in
that it probably isn't changeable within a reconciliation vote. I don't
think there's anything about tax money in the gun provision so removing
it wouldn't save any money, hence it would need 60 votes in the senate
to undo.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (vsYKI)

The only doubt I have is why he is even a Republican. Nobody gets a pass on gun control. FK him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 24, 2017 07:17 PM (mpXpK)

182 Definitely a cage match if the judges are of equal rank.

Posted by: Frank Booth at March 24, 2017 07:17 PM (Lct9I)

183 The Speaker of the House is a front man for the majority party. If Ryan is ousted he'll be replaced with another front man for the party.

Kinda like the story of Ocare.

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 07:18 PM (XoldI)

184 I'm not on the twitters, but I'm guessing all the libs are orgasmic over the bill's no go?

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:18 PM (vsYKI)

185 158
Some people have argued that it's genital mutilation.
Many I'd bet are pro-Muslim. And radical feminists.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:11 PM (SIY7D)


I could be wrong, but I think Muslims get circumcised. I think it's mainly the gheys who are vehemently anti-circumcision.

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (sdi6R)

186 175 The failure of the passage of Rcare allows Ocare to fail without any GOP involvement, fully owned by the Dems.

The Dems will then try to push for Single Payer, but with the stench of the failure of their Ocare in the air.
Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 07:15 PM (XoldI)


Obamacare "failing" was baked into the cake when it was passed in 2010. They thought it would fail before 2016 so Obama could move directly to total national health or that Hillary was a shoe in for 2016 if it took longer.

Now it will fail and the clamor (PLEASE G-D) will be for PDT to lead the restoration minimally back to the status quo in 2010.

If he is able to achieve this, along with an end to state-run monopolies and other free market incentives, it will be one of the greatest accomplishments in the attempt to thwart the socialist counterrevolution ever. Pray it happens.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (mbhDw)

187
I'm glad my parents had me 'mutilated' at a point in my life when I didn't give a shit. Also, dick cancer and aids are bad, plus dick smelling like ripe cheese.

Never could figure out why the gheys love the 'uncut' look.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (ZFUt7)

188 Cage match, pistols? What are we? Barbarians? This is the 21st Century and a Pants-Off Dance-Off is the order of the day!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (kP16F)

189 Failure to pass a bill won't end a Speakership.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (HV1LS)

190 He could poke out the eye of one his press tormenters and skullfuck the socket JUST ONCE...but NOOOOOO....
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (HV1LS)
---
No need for skullfuckery, just pop the eyeball into a martini and quaff deeply for the camera.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 24, 2017 07:20 PM (PhYV5)

191 Just to be clear I wasn't equating circumcision to cliterdectomies.

My point was that, by the logic of the HI judge, if the sponsors of our federal anti-cliterdectomy statute had said bad things about Muslims, then we can't stop American Muslims from chopping off their girl's clits.

What would the Usual Leftist suspects have to say about that

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:20 PM (SIY7D)

192 Trump's EO still stands, let's all remember, which essentially nullified the mandate. So that should accelerate the death of OCare.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:20 PM (vsYKI)

193 Oh well, single payer.

Posted by: Ryan and the Polliwogs at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (HgMAr)

194 187
I'm glad my parents had me 'mutilated' at a point in my life when I didn't give a shit. Also, dick cancer and aids are bad, plus dick smelling like ripe cheese.

Never could figure out why the gheys love the 'uncut' look.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (ZFUt7)


A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)

195 Dick cancer, AIDS, dick smelling like ripe cheese... You answered your own question, E Depluribus Unum!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (kP16F)

196 One bright day in the middle of the night,
Two dead boys got up to fight.
Back to back they faced each other,
drew their swords and shot each other.
A deaf policeman heard the noise
and ran to save the two dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie is true,
ask the blind man, he saw it, too.

Author: Unknown

Posted by: Unknown at March 24, 2017 07:22 PM (ZKlDy)

197 Trump's EO still stands, let's all remember, which essentially nullified the mandate. So that should accelerate the death of OCare.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:20 PM (vsYKI)


That's actually a problem.

Because while it will accelerate the death spiral of Ocare, it clears the field for single payer....and that will kill this country. Just look at Europe.

Remember, we're currently being led by the guys who couldn't gut one of the least popular pieces of legislation in decades. So yeah, I'm totes sure they'll hold the line against single payer.

Totes.

FML. I need a bourbon.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:22 PM (51PdX)

198 Never could figure out why the gheys love the 'uncut' look.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:19 PM (ZFUt7)
............

Looks a condom when it's snot.

Posted by: Ru Paul Ryan at March 24, 2017 07:22 PM (HgMAr)

199 I'm willing to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt on the gun thing, in that it probably isn't changeable within a reconciliation vote. I don't think there's anything about tax money in the gun provision so removing it wouldn't save any money, hence it would need 60 votes in the senate to undo.
Posted by: #neverskankles


___________

I don't like Paul Ryan, I want him gone, but some of this stuff is fever swamp stuff and is just a result of reconciliation rules.

Like there was something else regrading illegal immigration in the bill and it was stripped because of the nature of what it was trying to do wasn't "budgetary", but then people ran with it "gave free stuff to illegals".

Our side does have a problem with this type of reporting, I guarantee you the people that write it know better

Posted by: Maritime at March 24, 2017 07:22 PM (mKRm7)

200 He could poke out the eye of one his press tormenters and skullfuck the socket JUST ONCE...but NOOOOOO....

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:13 PM (HV1LS)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blki-DISUis

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 07:23 PM (XoldI)

201 @165

There have been two speakers worth a shit, Gingrich and Delay and they were both knifed in the back.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2017 07:23 PM (+lv+r)

202 A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)


Please tell me a local anesthetic was used.

Please. Lie to me if you have to.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (51PdX)

203
Two contradictory rulings? Psshaw. We do that before breakfast every morning. The law and Constitution mean whatever the hell we say it means and any given time and date.

The physics of spacetime mean nothing to us. We violate causality every day.

Posted by: Federal Judiciary at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (aKqWT)

204 Point I take it over last few days is reconciliation is a total possibly, the Representatives could have passed whatever and not that I have lots of faith, the Senate could have changed rules with only 51 votes.

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (GPaiX)

205 >>>What happens when one federal judge claims
to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another
judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?<<<

You settle this by having a dick punching competition until one combatant collapses from pain and swelling or loss of consciousness.

Posted by: Fritz at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (MF/hn)

206 Can HHS Head Tom Price use his magic pen to end the Obamacare exemptions for Congresscritters and their staff. i.e., make them eat the shit sandwich.

It would be fitting and appropriate, and might even swing votes down the line.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (SIY7D)

207 Circumcision is mutilation. Your attempts at justification don't change the fact that a part of a baby's anatomy is being sliced off.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

That's funny.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (zsHGH)

208 there are body parts you don't need, believe it or not, like an appendix. removing an appendix is not "mutilation". neither is circumcision.

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (c6/9Q)

209 202 A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)

Please tell me a local anesthetic was used.

Please. Lie to me if you have to.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (51PdX)


Local? Pffft! Express!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:25 PM (mbhDw)

210 Our new album drops tonight.
It's called Hello Goodbye.

Posted by: Ryan and the Polliwogs at March 24, 2017 07:25 PM (HgMAr)

211
A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31. 
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


As part of my continuing research in human sexuality, I notice that about 99% of heterosexual pron actors of the male persuasion are cut. I gotta feeling there's some reason.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:26 PM (ZFUt7)

212 "Two contradictory rulings?"

They didn't contradict. Plaintiff in VA asked for an injunction and judge said no. No one was asking for a nationwide anti-injunction. End of story (subject to appeal).

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:26 PM (SIY7D)

213 A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)
----
Were family members standing around watching during the procedure?

Was there a party afterward? Were there themed balloons with funny sayings?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 24, 2017 07:26 PM (PhYV5)

214 They cancel each other out and the order stands. Liberals BTFO.

Posted by: the extremely deplorable and very racist, sexist, bigotted and homophobic james at March 24, 2017 07:26 PM (jxw6R)

215 Our side does have a problem with this type of reporting, I guarantee you the people that write it know better
=====

Trust is in short supply and no, the people who write it are not on my side.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 24, 2017 07:27 PM (MIKMs)

216 Jeebus, it must be nice to not have to really care about O-care being abolished, as most here apparently don't have to. Meanwhile, millions (many multiples of the numbers on the idiotic O-care plans) have been entirely without insurance or real insurance for going on 3 years.


So no, taking ANOTHER year to remove the ridiculous, disastrous regs that destroyed the individual and much of the small group markets (such as they were) is NOT reasonable, or acceptable.


Three to five times as many people have been seriously financially damaged by O-care as have been "helped" - and that's probably a conservative estimate.


People here talk about their 20% increases, their 28% increases. Laughable. How about a 400% increase, overnight, several years ago? (it's now about 500% for the "same" plan - but all plans now are much much worse in terms of deductibles, so apples/apples is only approximate)


And this disastrous policy that's been unpopular every second of its existence and "benefits" a comparative handful of people while damaging everyone and devastating millions is "untouchable" politically? WTFF? This is as one-sided a major political issue as has existed in my lifetime.


O-care has already "imploded" - it imploded for millions, and for much of small business, nearly 3 years ago.





Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 07:27 PM (QDnY+)

217 It's a process. Scalise could be better than Ryan.


For starters, Scalise is from a historical RED voting state.

Unlike the other two conniving, bottom feeding pukes Ryan and McCarthy.

Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at March 24, 2017 07:27 PM (oBuXO)

218 How about Tom Price does the Phase 2 thing. Only now Phase 2 becomes Phase 1. Then Phase 1, the bill, becomes phase 2. And if people see that Price/Trump are serious, maybe they'll be more willing to pass a bill.

Phase 3.....nobody with an IQ north of 70 believes that shit.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:28 PM (vsYKI)

219 Wisdom teeth have been gone since I was 20, appendix is still with me.

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2017 07:29 PM (GPaiX)

220
Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 07:27 PM (QDnY+)

___
Reality is OCare doesn't hurt Democrats. The Democrat party is made up of the poor and the super rich. The poor get Medicaid, the super rich don't give a fuck if insurance costs $500 a month or $1500 a month.

That's why Democrats will never lift a finger to change OCare.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:29 PM (vsYKI)

221 215 Our side does have a problem with this type of reporting, I guarantee you the people that write it know better
=====

Trust is in short supply and no, the people who write it are not on my side.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 24, 2017 07:27 PM (MIKMs)


I don't understand. If Tom Cotton, Louie Gohmert and others who are pretty solid conservatives are sounding the alarm bell, why are they attacked and/or disbelieved or accused of grandstanding?

I trust them a lot more than I trust the likes of Paul Ryan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)

222 What about circumcision via crossbow?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 24, 2017 07:30 PM (oVJmc)

223
When you have a Ryno speaker and he loses -you get more left.
When you have a conservative speaker and he loses - you still have middle of the road.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2017 07:30 PM (3k5gg)

224 What about circumcision via crossbow?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 24, 2017 07:30 PM (oVJmc)


LONGBOW!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 24, 2017 07:30 PM (51PdX)

225 Yeah Drudge is a little over the top tonight.


Hey! A guy's gotta' make a buck.

Posted by: Matt at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (lZ9yI)

226 I don't understand. If Tom Cotton, Louie Gohmert and others who are pretty solid conservatives are sounding the alarm bell, why are they attacked and/or disbelieved or accused of grandstanding?

I trust them a lot more than I trust the likes of Paul Ryan.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)

____

Did they sound the alarm on the gun thing?

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (vsYKI)

227 In case no-one else noticed:

LASue used the correct lyric, which is, "I was working as a waitress in a cocktail bar", not "I was working as a cocktail waitress".

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Suburban Boy at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (bePxm)

228
When I was a teenager, a good friend of mine's father had a little problem with the foreskin. Hell, I forget the name of the condition, but the thing draws up and gets tight, and can cause severe problems. So they recommended circumcision. He was about 50, my age now, a little older.

He had to have stitches. The doc told him whatever the hell you do, don't get, uh, "excited". Well, hell. He got excited a few days later.

He said the pain was so excruciating, he feared he'd never get excited again, such a mental block he feared it created.

I'm sure they could give you something now, probably could then, but why they didn't, I don't know.

You're welcome for this story. Crossing your legs and tightening up the muscles down there is good exercise.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (aKqWT)

229 One bright day in the middle of the night,
Two dead boys got up to fight.
Back to back they faced each other,
drew their swords and shot each other.
A deaf policeman heard the noise
and ran to save the two dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie is true,
ask the blind man, he saw it, too.

Author: Unknown

Posted by: Unknown at March 24, 2017 07:22 PM (ZKlDy)


Wow, that's a blast from the past. I saw that written on the wall of a bathroom years ago when I was a kid. The funnier thing was something that was written right near it-

He who writes on bathroom walls
rolls his shit in little balls
he who reads these words of wit
eat those little balls of shit.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (aMlLZ)

230 Cigar cutter.

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (rnOcr)

231 Ryan is officially " Dead Man Walking"

Posted by: Navergiveup at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (SjImc)

232 222 What about circumcision via crossbow?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 24, 2017 07:30 PM (oVJmc)
---
Place this apple on your penis...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (PhYV5)

233 The Secretary of HHS "deems" that members and staff of Congress are individuals, NOT members of a small business, thus they are fully subject to all provisions of the AHCA!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 24, 2017 07:32 PM (gwPgz)

234 I simply must comment on the topic of the previous thread to say:

You have just got to be fucking shitting me.

Assault Troops, prepare to embark.

That is all. The fucking fuck........................

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 24, 2017 07:32 PM (rxiJx)

235 there are body parts you don't need, believe it or not, like an appendix. removing an appendix is not "mutilation". neither is circumcision.
Posted by: runner

Hey, appendices contain useful information, y'know!

Posted by: Proofreader, editor, typesetter, formatter at March 24, 2017 07:32 PM (ZKlDy)

236 Uh.... I thought Ocare had a non severability Clause...

So if you repealed ANY of it, you had to repeal ALL of it...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (NgKpN)

237 there are body parts you don't need, believe it or not, like an appendix.

Or an arm.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (8ZskC)

238 so you get Paul Ryan's Scalp & you get McCarthy, to Quote the Who "Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss"

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (y3aQB)

239 Reggie loves my uncut little bonnet.

Posted by: Beach Barry at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (bc2Lc)

240 236 Uh.... I thought Ocare had a non severability Clause...

So if you repealed ANY of it, you had to repeal ALL of it...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (NgKpN)

___

LOL!! Silly peasant.

Posted by: SCOTUS at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (vsYKI)

241 What about circumcision via crossbow?

Oh, dude........... that like, ....

...hurts.

owww

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (rxiJx)

242
Danny D might be part of the 1%. Tough to tell. I suspect he was born with a penis pump in his hand.

(Nitwit Brit with soccer team tatoo on his forearm.)
Safe for work image probably unavailable.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:34 PM (ZFUt7)

243 At least Keystone XL got approved today.

So there's that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:35 PM (vsYKI)

244 Hillary said bridges not walls. An unfortunate phase now.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 24, 2017 07:35 PM (e12cC)

245 Senior Hamas terrorist eliminated in Gaza

Senior Hamas terrorist eliminated in Gaza
Hamas terrorist Mazen Faqha, who was freed by Israel in Shalit deal, shot dead in Gaza. Hamas, Islamic Jihad blame Israel.

Alex I'll take " Things that go boom in the Night" for $500

Posted by: Navergiveup at March 24, 2017 07:35 PM (SjImc)

246 Meanwhile, back on-topic (and thanks ace for this one).


Judicial coup status:


[X] Intact
[ ] Challenged or put down


Every court action on this so far has been lawless (aside from the MA district's pro forma dismissal).


A plenary power of the executive, beyond doubt, clearly based in the constitution and statute, involving national security, and undisputed, was simply usurped/negated by 5 people. With "plaintiffs" who cannot possibly have standing, if there is to be any government at all outside lawsuits and judge's orders.


Funny reading people pondering the tiny details and possible implications on this particular lawlessness, because let's recall what the EO is: a pause, a temporary policy, a 90- or 120-day review period to determine best policies to deal with intel assessments that admissions from these countries cannot be prudently vetted.


So the "damage" has been done. A sensible lawful presidential directive has been blocked, allowing real-world things to take place that the directive was intended to stop.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 07:36 PM (QDnY+)

247 208 there are body parts you don't need, believe it or not, like an appendix. removing an appendix is not "mutilation". neither is circumcision.

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:24 PM (c6/9Q)

++++

All those things that the medical profession used to say were redundant and could be hacked off and cut out? Yeah turns that's bullshit.

The appendix has been identified as an important component of mammalian mucosal immune function, particularly B cell mediated immune responses and extrathymically derived T cells. This structure helps in the proper movement and removal of waste matter in the digestive system, contains lymphatic vessels that regulate pathogens, and lastly, might even produce early defences that prevent deadly diseases. Additionally, it is thought that this may provide more immune defences from invading pathogens and getting the lymphatic system's B and T cells to fight the viruses and bacteria that infect that portion of the bowel and training them, so that immune responses are targeted and more able to reliably and less dangerously fight off pathogens. In addition there are different immune cells called innate lymphoid cells that function in the gut, to help the appendix maintain digestive health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appendix_%28anatomy%29

Tonsils
These immunocompetent tissues are the immune system's first line of defense against ingested or inhaled foreign pathogens. Tonsils have on their surface specialized antigen capture cells called M cells that allow for the uptake of antigens produced by pathogens. These M cells then alert the underlying B cells and T cells in the tonsil that a pathogen is present and an immune response is stimulated. B cells are activated and proliferate in areas called germinal centres in the tonsil. These germinal centres are places where B memory cells are created and secretory antibody (IgA) is produced.

Recent studies have provided evidence that the tonsils produce T lymphocytes, also known as T-cells, in a manner similar to, but different from, the way the thymus does.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsils

foreskin
The foreskin is specialised tissue that is packed with nerves and contains stretch receptors. Sorrells et al. (2007) reported the areas of the penis most sensitive to fine touch are on the foreskin.

The foreskin enables the penis to slip in and out of the vagina non-abrasively inside its own sheath of self lubricating, movable skin.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin

Sure, you can survive without lots of parts of your body. And, in the case of something like appendicitis, it makes sense to cut the problem out. But, in a healthy human, there is no justification for slicing off healthy tissue, especially when the human in question is a little baby who is unable to weigh in on what he wants to happen to him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2017 07:36 PM (R+30W)

248 Just pass out Exec. Order Waivers to anyone who wants one.
It was good enough for Obama.

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2017 07:37 PM (rnOcr)

249 Fun stuff in Montreal....Imam calls for death to all Jews.

But you know, keeping these people out of America is rayyycist and stuff.

See Drudge

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:37 PM (vsYKI)

250 I don't understand. If Tom Cotton, Louie Gohmert and
others who are pretty solid conservatives are sounding the alarm bell,
why are they attacked and/or disbelieved or accused of grandstanding?



I trust them a lot more than I trust the likes of Paul Ryan. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)
=====

Yet everyone except for the RINOs were excluded. And, of course, us poor ignorant voters who can't possibly understand parliamentary procedure, or subject, verb, object.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 24, 2017 07:37 PM (MIKMs)

251
there are body parts you don't need, believe it or not, like an appendix.



Or an arm.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 24, 2017 07:33 PM (8ZskC)

for some folks it's brain, but I digress...

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:38 PM (c6/9Q)

252 Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 07:36 PM (QDnY+)

Kritarchy.... Government by Judges...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:38 PM (NgKpN)

253 227 In case no-one else noticed:

LASue used the correct lyric, which is, "I was working as a waitress in a cocktail bar", not "I was working as a cocktail waitress".

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Suburban Boy at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (bePxm)


@71 bitches

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2017 07:38 PM (HV1LS)

254 When two judges of an equal appellate level disagree on a ruling, it should be settled by knife fight.

Posted by: Ace's shelves at March 24, 2017 07:38 PM (a2NH2)

255 Off Ikea Fixa-drilled sock.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (a2NH2)

256 The Secretary of HHS "deems" that members and staff of Congress are individuals, NOT members of a small business, thus they are fully subject to all provisions of the AHCA!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 24, 2017 07:32 PM (gwPgz)

^
That. They get the insurance we get. We get the insurance they get. We live under the laws they write. They live under the laws we live under.

They would straighten up pronto.
(a little Spanish lingo there)

Posted by: Matt at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (lZ9yI)

257 "So the "damage" has been done. A sensible lawful presidential directive has been blocked, allowing real-world things to take place that the directive was intended to stop."

SCOTUS will knock this down on several counts most likely 7-2 or better. (e.g., Kagan knows to not look stupid or biased when a case is such a loser).

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (SIY7D)

258 the Obama administration said:

"in the end it comes down to the barrel of the gun"

if you have guns, raise your hand.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (BrMft)

259 226
Did they sound the alarm on the gun thing?

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:31 PM (vsYKI)

Don't know who did.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:41 PM (mbhDw)

260
As I said years ago, all political power flows from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Chairman Mao at March 24, 2017 07:42 PM (aKqWT)

261
ali
24/03/17 19:46
Multiple sources have @Reince45 disappointed with @SpeakerRyan. One told The Hill, "Reince put way too much trust in Ryan." Ouch.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 07:42 PM (y3aQB)

262 Sure, you can survive without lots of parts of your
body. And, in the case of something like appendicitis, it makes sense to
cut the problem out. But, in a healthy human, there is no justification
for slicing off healthy tissue, especially when the human in question
is a little baby who is unable to weigh in on what he wants to happen to
him.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 24, 2017 07:36 PM (R+30W)

you are entitled to your opinion, but body of research (including incidence of aids among circumcised vs. uncircumcised) speaks for circumcision

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:43 PM (c6/9Q)

263 257 "So the "damage" has been done. A sensible lawful presidential directive has been blocked, allowing real-world things to take place that the directive was intended to stop."

SCOTUS will knock this down on several counts most likely 7-2 or better. (e.g., Kagan knows to not look stupid or biased when a case is such a loser).
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (SIY7D)

It took SEVEN Years for Obama's illegal appointment to the Labor Board to get to the Supremes...

SEVEN YEARS... Obama was not even in Office anymore.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:43 PM (NgKpN)

264
You no playa da game, you no make a da rules.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:43 PM (ZFUt7)

265 New from RONCO! The Foreskin Wallet! Rub it & it's a computer bag!

Posted by: Zombie Ron Popeil at March 24, 2017 07:44 PM (bc2Lc)

266 Already, the theories are being postulated that PDT set Ryan up to fail.

https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2017/03/24/paul-ryan-takes-the-barzini-meeting/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)

267 258 the Obama administration said:

"in the end it comes down to the barrel of the gun"

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:39 PM (BrMft)


When did he say that? Not disputing you, but I don't remember it.

That's a paraphrase of Chairman Mao, so it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Obama or one of his underlings said it.

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

268 How did they think that anything was going to get passed by the Senate right now.

It would have been better optics for this to die in the Senate with 51 R votes for, in order to hang it on Schumer and the many vulnerable D Senators, which I thought was the plan, but I'm just an Ignoramus.

The Ds can be better at this shit because they fall in line

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:45 PM (SIY7D)

269
Behold the flow of "power" from my gun.

I can hold a mainframe in my "wallet".

Posted by: Danny D. at March 24, 2017 07:45 PM (aKqWT)

270 267
That's a paraphrase of Chairman Mao, so it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Obama or one of his underlings said it.
Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 07:44 PM (sdi6R)


Lizard-tongued Anita Dunn, probably. He was her hero. Along with Mahatma Gandhi.

Feh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (mbhDw)

271 The travel pause may even get to SCOTUS this term, before the end of June

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (SIY7D)

272 The foreskin is a step assuring continuing our species in primitive times. As much as we are trying we are not back there yet.

Posted by: gNewt at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (lZ9yI)

273 The martyr Mazen Fukaha was shot in the head leading to his death

Yup usually does

Posted by: Navergiveup at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (SjImc)

274
It would have been better optics for this to die in the Senate with 51 R votes for, in order to hang it on Schumer and the many vulnerable D Senators, which I thought was the plan, but I'm just an Ignoramus.

The Ds can be better at this shit because they fall in line
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:45 PM (SIY7D)

Nope... it was better to die in the House, IF Repubs actually wanted to keep the Base happy...

Many of us saw this as a betrayal of many many campaign promises.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:47 PM (NgKpN)

275 dont't think he set him up - too much at stake

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:47 PM (c6/9Q)

276 273 The martyr Mazen Fukaha was shot in the head leading to his death

Yup usually does
Posted by: Navergiveup at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (SjImc)


What happened to your nic?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:47 PM (mbhDw)

277 Ignoramus - "SCOTUS will knock this down on several counts most likely 7-2 or better. (e.g., Kagan knows to not look stupid or biased when a case is such a loser)."


Misses the point. The damage has been done. Admissions from the targeted nationalities have been ongoing since the EO was illegally blocked by a court with no jurisdiction and plaintiffs with no standing.


And the failure to get an emergency appeal in front of SCOTUS, immediately, is a key part of this disaster. I share your hunch about the vote there. But that's not the point, either.


The administration has disastrously diminished the presidential power and furthered the constitutional unraveling led by court lawlessness - as well as failed to carry out their duties re national security, by allowing admission of nationals from high-risk pools that cannot be vetted.


It will be sheer luck if we don't see many more outrageous judicial usurpations, like this one gutting the effect of administration decisions, in the next few years. Trump and Co. wanted the job, but do not seem willing or able to do what the job involves. You get yourself into the WH in the late stages of a constitutional unraveling, guess what, it's not going to be a picnic.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

278 It would have been better optics for this to die in the Senate with 51 R votes for, in order to hang it on Schumer and the many vulnerable D Senators, which I thought was the plan, but I'm just an Ignoramus. The Ds can be better at this shit because they fall in line
Posted by: Ignoramus


The average voter doesn't know the difference between a Congress Critter and a Senator. They'll both be tarred with the same brush. Br'er Obama created this tar baby.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 07:48 PM (ZFUt7)

279 271 The travel pause may even get to SCOTUS this term, before the end of June
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:46 PM (SIY7D)

I don't see it... they have not even scheduled the Trials on it yet, have they?

Then, all the appeals...

Then the Supremes have to decide they want to hear it...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 07:49 PM (NgKpN)

280 "When did he say that? Not disputing you, but I don't remember it. That's a paraphrase of Chairman Mao, so it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Obama or one of his underlings said it. Posted by: rickl

it was one of his administration guys ... I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:49 PM (BrMft)

281 What happened to your nic?


======


it's a sock

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 07:49 PM (c6/9Q)

282 What happened to your nic?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:47 PM (mbhDw)

I fooken can't type or spill

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2017 07:49 PM (SjImc)

283 "They'll both be tarred with the same brush."

If it died in the Senate, then when OCare blows up, the vulnerable D Senators could be hit with it in 2018. Lots of ads of them hugging creepy Chuck Schumer

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:50 PM (SIY7D)

284 Can you imagine how shitty TSA would be if we had to fly on dirigibles filled with hydrogen.

How many more times are we going to have to try to repeal Obamacare?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 24, 2017 07:50 PM (SEy7A)

285 Already, the theories are being postulated that PDT set Ryan up to fail.

https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2017/03/24/paul-ryan-takes-the-barzini-meeting/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)



gNaw, He said he could do so I gave him the opportunity.

Posted by: Don at March 24, 2017 07:51 PM (lZ9yI)

286 194 187 A Brit friend of mine converted to Tribesman and had his Yutzick clipped at the tender young age of 31.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)


I was born in 1960 and back then it was standard procedure for baby boys to be circumcised. I've never regretted my parents decision to clip me, especially the more I learn the problems unclipped men so frequently have.

It's my understanding that it became popular in the US in WWII, when the nice sergeants showed unclipped recruits the hazards of being unclipped. Most chose to have the procedure done and got a few days off from boot camp.

My father was born at home to a poor family, so I presume that his circumcision was courtesy of the US Navy.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (nvMvs)

287 here rickl ... Bloom ... power from the gun, if you want a friend get a dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6W9NUteAc

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (BrMft)

288 Also liked Tony Snow in that job.

I'm still holding out for the Rumsfeld Strangler.

Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (FhXTo)

289 I am so totally out of the loop with this healthcare vote. Someone please fill me in on the BASICS. In so doing, please explain, in the most concise terms:

1. Whether today's vote cancellation is "good" or "bad."

2. Why Democrats seems to be doing a happy dance, but conservatives ALSO seems to be doing a happy dance.

3. Has there been some kind of rift between Team Trump and Team Tru-Con over this health bill?

4. Is Ryan on the same side as Trump in this? Is Ryan a villain? Is Trump also therefore a villain?

HALP!

Posted by: zombie at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (DQ4Fv)

290 SCOTUS usually waits for an issue to get ripe -- i.e. at least two split circuits after trial on the merits.

They can take this up faster to deal with the marrow issues of overreach of district courts issuing nationwide injunctions, and also possibly standing

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:54 PM (SIY7D)

291 Once upon a time a biologist friend of mine described how the male penis shape is designed to suck out the ejaculation of the guy who came before you.
I thought that was a real "head" scratcher.

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2017 07:54 PM (rnOcr)

292 this is Rush on Obama's guy Bloom saying "we kinda agree with Mao ... power from the gun"

http://tinyurl.com/ketz5h8

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:55 PM (BrMft)

293 When two judges of an equal appellate level disagree on a ruling

...then one of them is wrong. In my line of work, I pay a price for being wrong. Could easily lose my job

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 07:55 PM (6anZz)

294 zombie,
yes.

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2017 07:56 PM (rnOcr)

295 The majority opinion in the SCOTUS travel pause case, with at least five votes for, will castigate the anti-Trump judges severely. What more did you want.

The hope of the Left was that Trump would go full Andrew Jackson by defying the courts, as grounds for Impeachment.

We'll get more judicial activism on deportation, which is my bigger worry. Sand in the gears

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 07:58 PM (SIY7D)

296
A lot of times, conflicting rulings apply only to the circuits in which they were made. Yet, sometimes, as that idiot judge in Hawaii did, they can declare their rulings apply to the whole damn country. I don't how that works, and under what circumstances they can say it applies outside their own district.

At any rate, conflicting lower rulings is what the Supreme Court is supposed to handle.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 07:58 PM (aKqWT)

297 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 08:00 PM (1CtvB)

298 One told The Hill ..

It may be true, but I'm going to need more that the word of known liars.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:00 PM (LTHVh)

299 292 this is Rush on Obama's guy Bloom saying "we kinda agree with Mao ... power from the gun"

http://tinyurl.com/ketz5h8
Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:55 PM (BrMft)


Linky no work.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 08:02 PM (mbhDw)

300 Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 08:00 PM (1CtvB)

I think that probably depends on the particular Democrat.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2017 08:02 PM (fDdVG)

301 "under what circumstances they can say it applies outside their own district."

They're really not supposed to on emergency motions like TROs and injunctions. Especially not on things like the Temp Travel Pause. This is where the biggest SCOTUS beatdown will come, even from Kagan

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:03 PM (SIY7D)

302 UNC by 16 over Butler at the half.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 08:04 PM (qJhUV)

303 289 I am so totally out of the loop with this healthcare vote. Someone please fill me in on the BASICS.
-----------

10 The GOP are traitorous scum
20 Goto 10

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 08:04 PM (1CtvB)

304 The SCOTUS can elevate any case for any reason at anytime.

Once Gorsuch is on the court the administration can appeal it directly to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (+lv+r)

305 eddie munster turned villian when he got speakership

Posted by: concrete girl at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (aounc)

306 So, there's a chance we may be able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (vBeA5)

307 63
True or False?

I was working as a cocktail waitress.



(name the band and the song)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 24, 2017 06:50 PM (qTQac)

That much is true.

"Don't You Want Me" - Human League

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:06 PM (0mRoj)

308 >> "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"

Obviously, the ruling which progressives agree with should become the law of the land, and the ruling progressives disagree with should be thrown out and the judge removed from office and possibly jailed for treason.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at March 24, 2017 08:06 PM (E5jIq)

309 289 I am so totally out of the loop with this healthcare vote. Someone please fill me in on the BASICS. In so doing, please explain, in the most concise terms:

1. Whether today's vote cancellation is "good" or "bad."

2. Why Democrats seems to be doing a happy dance, but conservatives ALSO seems to be doing a happy dance.

3. Has there been some kind of rift between Team Trump and Team Tru-Con over this health bill?

4. Is Ryan on the same side as Trump in this? Is Ryan a villain? Is Trump also therefore a villain?

HALP!
Posted by: zombie at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (DQ4Fv)


*********************

Do you care what Trump says about it all?

Do you want to hear directly from him?

There is a great video at the top of this story:

/president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-

dead/2017/03/24/8282c3f6-10ce-11e7-9b0d-d27c98455440_story.html?utm_term=.cd818d2c23c5

(close the gap--but you're a smart girl you can figure it out.)


Then Trump makes a reference to this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI

Phil Collins--Another Day In Paradise

Posted by: Holmes at March 24, 2017 08:06 PM (fi5nC)

310 Should one refrain from fapping while eating popcorn?
Inquiring minds and all...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (hVdx9)

311 Paul Ryan is the kind of Republican who tells you government doesn't work or get anything done and then gets elected and proves it.

Stolen from some guy I've forgotten.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (3myMJ)

312 "It's my understanding that it became popular in the US in WWII, when the
nice sergeants showed unclipped recruits the hazards of being
unclipped. Most chose to have the procedure done and got a few days off
from boot camp."

That famous cocksman John F. Kennedy was circumcised in adult life, and was reportedly pleased and proud with the results.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (noWW6)

313 142 I'm a lawyer! I can tell you... for $620/hour.
Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at March 24, 2017 07:07 PM (CLKfs)

Shit, even at my highest hourly rate I wasn't even half that expensive.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:08 PM (0mRoj)

314 Cripes can't copy the link worth a crap but this is the title of the article at The Washington Post:

"Hello, Bob': President Trump called my cellphone to say that the health-care bill was dead by Bob Costas

Posted by: Holmes at March 24, 2017 08:08 PM (fi5nC)

315 287 here rickl ... Bloom ... power from the gun, if you want a friend get a dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6W9NUteAc
Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 07:52 PM (BrMft)


Lovely.

*adds to List*

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (sdi6R)

316 use two hands

Posted by: concrete girl at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (aounc)

317 303
10 The GOP are traitorous scum
20 Goto 10

Posted by: Mega at March 24, 2017 08:04 PM (1CtvB)

?SYNTAX ERROR IN 10
READY



Posted by: *** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (V4Qfo)

318 Just realized how late I am to this thread. Jeez.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (0mRoj)

319 311
P.J. O'Rourke

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (rnOcr)

320 Should one refrain from fapping while eating popcorn?
Inquiring minds and all...


Circumcised or not?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (LTHVh)

321 They're really not supposed to on emergency motions like TROs and injunctions. Especially not on things like the Temp Travel Pause. This is where the biggest SCOTUS beatdown will come, even from Kagan

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:03 PM (SIY7D)


I wouldn't expect any liberal judge to rule the right way no matter how clear the law is

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (auHtY)

322 It was "I was working as a waitress at a. cocktail ba-a-ar..."

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (6anZz)

323 thanks jj .. this should work, I guess I clipped some part or something

Rush on Bloom agreeing with Mao

http://tinyurl.com/mrgq9nk

Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (BrMft)

324 Ignoramus - "The majority opinion in the SCOTUS travel pause case, with at least five votes for, will castigate the anti-Trump judges severely. What more did you want."


I wanted a lot more. I wanted lawless courts to be repudiated when they interfered with national security policy outside their ken or jurisdiction. Being "castigated" by SCOTUS is meaningless - how many admissions from the targeted countries will be stopped or reversed due to harsh words from SCOTUS? That's right, zero.


Impeachment's a non-starter that's already in the air, if you hadn't heard. Non-issue.


Oh - you mean the dog's-foot-being-stepped-on yowling from the legal establishment that a ridiculous, lawless court action is being ignored? That's known as "barely a good start" to restoring rule of law.


The deeper sickness of corruption and lawlessness of the judiciary that gives us social engineering and marriage redefinition and O-care and CO2 as a pollutant and fiscal disaster (entitlements for illegals) and so on is clearly beyond the character or intelligence of the political class or the electorate to fix - that's just the crappy mess that the US devolved down into.


But it would have been nice, just for the heck of it, for a president to rebuff such a stupid and indefensible bit of nonsense as this usurpation, that may have a near-term price tag in blood attached.


There is literally absolutely no theoretical chance of restoring rule of law in the US if the judiciary is not repudiated when it deserves it. The stupidity ratchet just turned a gigantic turn in the same evil direction, and harsh words from the farcical SCOTUS - which is part and parcel of the problem - are less than meaningless. If they mattered, the 9th wouldn't bother to issue it's rulings.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (QDnY+)

325 "Hello, Bob': President Trump called my cellphone to say that the health-care bill was dead by Bob Costas

Spunkeye?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (LTHVh)

326
Always wash your hands before fapping. Washing afterwards is nice, but optional.

Jalapeno juice on Mr. Happy will remind you to always wash the hands before touching him. I imagine salt from the popcorn could really be an experience if it got inside the end of the ol' urethra.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (aKqWT)

327 322 It was "I was working as a waitress at a. cocktail ba-a-ar..."
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (6anZz)

Very dysfunctional song. Possessive man and ungrateful faithless woman.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (0mRoj)

328 Holy crap South Carolina is having its way with Baylor. A lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (dEQP3)

329 306 So, there's a chance we may be able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat?
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (vBeA5)


We don't understand those words in that order.

Posted by: The GOPe at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)

330 319

Ah, thanks.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 24, 2017 08:11 PM (3myMJ)

331 I imagine salt from the popcorn could really be an experience if it got inside the end of the ol' urethra.


Ace needs to put this in the FAQs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2017 08:12 PM (8ZskC)

332 329 306 So, there's a chance we may be able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat?
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (vBeA5)

We don't understand those words in that order.
Posted by: The GOPe at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)

Earlier we were victoriously jawing about snatch.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:12 PM (0mRoj)

333 I know a brewer who make a Serrano pepper beer. When making cutting up the peppers, they remind the staff they need to wash their hands well before going to the bathroom. Advice derived from others experience.

Posted by: JT in KC at March 24, 2017 08:12 PM (FoSz+)

334 That song has nothing on Every Breath You Take

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 24, 2017 08:13 PM (bMQv/)

335 What happens?

Judge duel. That's what happens. Either pistols at 20 paces or the Octagon of Final Ruling.

Posted by: Weasel at March 24, 2017 08:13 PM (Sfs6o)

336 323 thanks jj .. this should work, I guess I clipped some part or something

Rush on Bloom agreeing with Mao

http://tinyurl.com/mrgq9nk
Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (BrMft)


Works. And believe it or not I actually remember that segment even 7 years later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 08:13 PM (mbhDw)

337 "I went home with a waitress, the way I always do. How was I to know she was with the Russians too? Woo!"

I love "Lawyers, Guns, and Money". I first it from a Hank, Jr. cover, and didn't even know it was Warren Zevon originally until much later.

With all this Russian hacking shit, maybe someone could come up with a good parody of that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (aKqWT)

338 310 Should one refrain from fapping while eating popcorn?
Inquiring minds and all...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (hVdx9)


Fap-corn. Buttered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (mbhDw)

339 Always wash your hands before fapping. Washing afterwards is nice, but optional.


Jalapeno juice on Mr. Happy will remind you to always wash the hands
before touching him. I imagine salt from the popcorn could really be an
experience if it got inside the end of the ol' urethra.


Posted by: publius
****

Some people like a little pain when they eat, others...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (hVdx9)

340 338 310 Should one refrain from fapping while eating popcorn?
Inquiring minds and all...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (hVdx9)


Fap-corn. Buttered.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (mbhDw)

Glazed.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (0mRoj)

341 Judge duel. That's what happens. Either pistols at 20 paces or the Octagon of Final Ruling.



Pistols.

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:15 PM (c6/9Q)

342 Cripes can't copy the link worth a crap but this is the title of the article at The Washington Post:

************

Washington Post? There's a legit source.

Posted by: Captain FartsAStorm at March 24, 2017 08:15 PM (Ze4Jj)

343 329 306 So, there's a chance we may be able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2017 08:05 PM (vBeA5)



We don't understand those words in that order.

Posted by: The GOPe at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)



Earlier we were victoriously jawing about snatch.

Posted by: Insomniac
****

Snatch was a great movie, one of my all time favorites.
What? Ohhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:15 PM (hVdx9)

344 "I love 'Lawyers, Guns, and Money'. I first it from a Hank, Jr. cover"

Wait, wut? There is such a thing? BRB.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (noWW6)

345 341 Judge duel. That's what happens. Either pistols at 20 paces or the Octagon of Final Ruling.



Pistols.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:15 PM (c6/9Q)

Drinking contest.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (0mRoj)

346 282- I always blame my keybard

Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (Roy2Z)

347 310 Should one refrain from fapping while eating popcorn?

Inquiring minds and all...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:07 PM (hVdx9)





Fap-corn. Buttered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
*****
Generating the friction needed to make the kernels pop....dangerous.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (hVdx9)

348 Drinking contest.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (0mRoj)

no one dies - what's the use ?

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:17 PM (c6/9Q)

349 @324 Rhomboid

You seem to be arguing for a repudiation of the Marbury v Madison doctrine of the judiciary being the ones who get the last word on interpreting laws and the Constitution. We've lived with Marbury for over 200 years and, while not perfect, it's mostly worked.

Repudiating Marbury is actually a radical idea, not a conservative one. There may come a time for it, but I don't think we're anywhere close, yet.

If we do, it removes a big check on the Executive.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:17 PM (SIY7D)

350 293 When two judges of an equal appellate level disagree on a ruling

...then one of them is wrong. In my line of work, I pay a price for being wrong. Could easily lose my job
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 07:55 PM (6anZz)

This even the most disinterested citizen knows.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 24, 2017 08:18 PM (P/kVC)

351 "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a
policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and
should be enacted as ordered?"
****

Bunga duel.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:18 PM (hVdx9)

352
Of course, there was an educational video where the above mentioned Danny D. (pbuh) gave some gals a surprise with that massive member stuck in a giant bucket of popcorn.

Maybe the forseskin protected him from the salt....

Of course, I don't know anything about this sort of thing. A friend told me.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:18 PM (aKqWT)

353 348 Drinking contest.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (0mRoj)

no one dies - what's the use ?
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:17 PM (c6/9Q)

Give them Everclear. Someone will die. Or at least go blind.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:18 PM (0mRoj)

354 pistols at 20 paces

These are not professionals. How about two paces?

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (6anZz)

355 328 Holy crap South Carolina is having its way with Baylor. A lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (dEQP3)

===========

Dont' know why, but I immediately imagined Lindsey Graham raping George W. Bush ...

Posted by: ShainS at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (ZcAbN)

356 "the lawyers, guns and money" i know is rick derringer

Posted by: concrete girl at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (aounc)

357 348 Drinking contest.



Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:16 PM (0mRoj)



no one dies - what's the use ?

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:17 PM (c6/9Q)



Give them Everclear. Someone will die. Or at least go blind.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor
*****

You can go blind from DRINKING?
My mom always said it was something else I was doing.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (hVdx9)

358 Oh, now I get it. SCOTUS will be particularly harsh in its smack-down of the lawless idiots in HI WA and CA not because they, without even a glance towards anything resembling law or the constitution, and creating hilarious concepts of standing that would mean all govt. policy at every level would be determined via lawsuits, usurped national security power of the executive, but because broke the *judiciary's* little own made-up rules for themselves on how to apply TROs.


So, the meaningless smackdown will be even more academic.


As I said above and many times before in this connection, it will be a miracle if any important Trump policy on immigration rule of law, and probably other areas too ("environmental" crap) is not gutted by lawless courts.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (QDnY+)

359 O/T and from Legal Insurrection...

"Ex-CIA Director: Michael Flynn Discussed Removing Erdogan Foe With Turkey"

I figured a gun would be easier, but, OK. A turkey is worth a try.

Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (Roy2Z)

360 FTSB - Hero monkeys helped man survive in the Amazon


Roasted over an open fire. They're the Shmoos of South America.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (LTHVh)

361 Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:09 PM (QDnY+)

Yep, just what is a VIABLE check on Judicial Power?

There really is not one...

And with no possibility of any punishment... why would they NOT act out?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (NgKpN)

362 354 pistols at 20 paces

These are not professionals. How about two paces?
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (6anZz)

Blunderbusses. Or is it blunderbi?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (0mRoj)

363 359 O/T and from Legal Insurrection...

"Ex-CIA Director: Michael Flynn Discussed Removing Erdogan Foe With Turkey"

I figured a gun would be easier, but, OK. A turkey is worth a try.
Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (Roy2Z)

If it's still frozen you can beat someone to death with it.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:20 PM (0mRoj)

364
As fun to make as it is to eat!

Posted by: Jizzy Plop at March 24, 2017 08:20 PM (BO/km)

365 Blunderbusses. Or is it blunderbi?
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (0mRoj)
---------
Probably blunderbii.

Posted by: Weasel at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (Sfs6o)

366 Some people like a little pain when they eat, others...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (hVdx9)

===========

I initially read that without the comma.

Posted by: ShainS at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (ZcAbN)

367 "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a

policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and

should be enacted as ordered?"

Dance off!

Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (qJhUV)

368 354 pistols at 20 paces

These are not professionals. How about two paces?
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (6anZz)


good point... maybe we can get both that way....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (NgKpN)

369 367 "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a

policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and

should be enacted as ordered?"

Dance off!
Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (qJhUV)

StarLord approves ...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 24, 2017 08:22 PM (NgKpN)

370 Holy crap South Carolina is having its way with Baylor. A lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (dEQP3)

===========

Dont' know why, but I immediately imagined Lindsey Graham raping George W. Bush ...

Posted by: ShainS
****

Could be worse.
That Subway "$5 foot long" commercial always made me think of a black transsexual hooker.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:22 PM (hVdx9)

371 You can go blind from DRINKING?
My mom always said it was something else I was doing.


Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (hVdx9)

eating popcorn ?

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:22 PM (c6/9Q)

372 StarLord approves ...

Who?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:22 PM (LTHVh)

373 Drop frozen turkeys on him from a helicopter.

Posted by: Mr Carlson at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (XoldI)

374 363
I figured a gun would be easier, but, OK. A turkey is worth a try.
Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (Roy2Z)

If it's still frozen you can beat someone to death with it.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:20 PM (0mRoj)


A turkey can be lethal if dropped from a great height.

Posted by: Les Nessman at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

375 "Hero Monkeys help man survive in Amazon" - yeah, but they left out the part where he had to agree to have sex with all of them, the big one first.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (V2Yro)

376 Some people like a little pain when they eat, others...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:14 PM (hVdx9)

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I initially read that without the comma.

Posted by: ShainS
****

Kinky...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (hVdx9)

377 Run for Your Liffe is a great possessive narrator song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (bMQv/)

378 I hate eating monkeys .

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (LTHVh)

379 A turkey can be lethal if dropped from a great height.
Posted by: Les Nessman at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (sdi6R)


They can fly, right?

Posted by: Johnny Fever, WKRP at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (51PdX)

380 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:10 PM (aKqWT)
All this talk of jalapenos has me craving what we had in Hawaii. Spicy grapefruit margarita. Made with fresh pink grapefruit juice, fresh lime, agave nectar and jalepeno.

They also made the best dessert. Some kind of chocolate cake like thing with vanilla ice cream with jalapenos in the ice cream. It was the best dessert I've ever had.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 08:24 PM (u8Ywb)

381 They can fly, right?

They're birds. *rolls eyes*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2017 08:24 PM (LTHVh)

382 375 "Hero Monkeys help man survive in Amazon" - yeah, but they left out the part where he had to agree to have sex with all of them, the big one first.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (V2Yro)
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Is that like an Amazon Prime deal?

Posted by: Weasel at March 24, 2017 08:24 PM (Sfs6o)

383 Baylor reminds me of the GOP, a lot. Every time you think they've finally got their shit together and are gonna do something really big, they trip over their own shoelaces and give the game away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 24, 2017 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

384 374 363
I figured a gun would be easier, but, OK. A turkey is worth a try.
Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (Roy2Z)

If it's still frozen you can beat someone to death with it.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:20 PM (0mRoj)

A turkey can be lethal if dropped from a great height.
Posted by: Les Nessman at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

As God is my witness...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:25 PM (0mRoj)

385 The Framers intended for impeachment to be used a check on the judiciary by the Congress. It never was used, and early it became apparent it wasn't going to be. Jefferson lamented that in one of his latter day writings, IIRC.

Impeachment of judges is only for actual crimes and misconduct, according the rules as they've developed, but no, it was intended as a way for Congress to slap down the judiciary when it needed to be.

If I were going to do it all over again, that's a fundamental flaw in the Constitution. There should be a more explicit means for the political branches to overturn the judiciary. It shouldn't be easy, but it shouldn't be impossible, as it is now.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:25 PM (aKqWT)

386 375 "Hero Monkeys help man survive in Amazon" - yeah, but they left out the part where he had to agree to have sex with all of them, the big one first.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (V2Yro)

If he didn't hate fucking monkeys before...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 24, 2017 08:25 PM (0mRoj)

387 "Shit, even at my highest hourly rate I wasn't even half that expensive."

Reminds me: in this morning's mgmt meeting, a VP said (and proudly, I might add) "I told {prospective client A} we're the cheepest price in town!"

No wonder his division is fixin' to shut down- its a money pit.

Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:25 PM (Roy2Z)

388 371
You can go blind from DRINKING?
My mom always said it was something else I was doing.




Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (hVdx9)

eating popcorn ?


Posted by: runner at
****

Sitting too close to the TV!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:26 PM (hVdx9)

389 Judges on SCOTUS, because they're final, know they have to keep some semblance of order to the legal circus. It's getting out of hand. Even Kagan knows this.

If it goes a lot further, and Trump has political popularity, and the Rs act as one, a radical reshaping of the federal courts will happen. Even Kagan knows this.

Knowing that the they can get fucked if they're not careful, is one possible explanation of why Judge Roberts flaked on overturning Obamacare. Obama made public threats and I'd bet a lot more privately.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:26 PM (SIY7D)

390 As God as my witness I thought Turkeys could fly

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 08:26 PM (y3aQB)

391 As I said above and many times before in this connection, it will be a miracle if any important Trump policy on immigration rule of law, and probably other areas too ("environmental" crap) is not gutted by lawless courts.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (QDnY+)

========

Heard David Horowitz of Conservative Review on Hannity's radio show today.

He was making this point, saying that many of Trump's successes (including an actual repeal and replace of DeathCare) will be litigated and struck down by Lefty federal judges -- noting that the D.C. District Court is something like 11-0 Lefty (and mentioning others predominantly Left that I can't recall).

Posted by: ShainS at March 24, 2017 08:27 PM (ZcAbN)

392 387 Casablanca reference comes to mind:

Ugarte: Rick, think of all the poor devils who can't meet Renault's price. I get it for them for half. Is that so... parasitic?

Rick: I don't mind a parasite. I object to a cut-rate one.

Posted by: socalcon at March 24, 2017 08:28 PM (Roy2Z)

393

Yes, Hank Jr did a cover of "Lawyers, Guns, and Money". It's on the Five-O album. A good grinding electric guitar, too.

He changed Zevon's original "I was gambling in Havana" line to "I was gambling in Las Vegas".

I guess they figured no one would remember when Havana was a big gambling capital.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at March 24, 2017 08:28 PM (aKqWT)

394 Has the judge thought this through? Has anyone here? A ban on refugees means that they are effectively divided from us.

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 24, 2017 08:28 PM (vRcUp)

395 If a 'conservative' judge blocked a significant EO from a Democrat President, would a Democrat controlled Congress impeach said judge?

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 08:28 PM (XoldI)

396 I echo Bannon's comment that we're still in the first inning of a long game

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:29 PM (SIY7D)

397 Erdogan foe is Fetullah Gulen. Gulen is no friend to us.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2017 08:29 PM (3k5gg)

398 Posted by: Mr Carlson at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (XoldI)

Posted by: Les Nessman at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

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LMAO

Posted by: ShainS at March 24, 2017 08:29 PM (ZcAbN)

399 390 As God as my witness I thought Turkeys could fly
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 08:26 PM (y3aQB)


That always makes me laugh.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 08:29 PM (u8Ywb)

400 367 "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a

policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and

should be enacted as ordered?"

Dance off!
Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (qJhUV)

You need at least three judges with the same impeccable qualifications for diving the truth to judge the contest... and another panel of judges of any odd number greater than three in the dance off loser does not accept defeat.

...might as well just draw lots...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (P/kVC)

401 Ignoramus, no offense but terms like "conservative" and "radical" are shortcuts for efficiency in some cases but utterly meaningless here.


Yes, when a court acts lawlessly, especially in an area of national security, then it should be repudiated. When they f***ing just usurp power, as in this case, there is not other choice.


It's not Marbury. Marbury didn't say the courts get to assume executive power and discretion whenever they feel like it - and that's exactly what happened here.


We lived with slavery and polio too, up to a point.


If we don't get repudiation of the courts, we will not get any relief from the lack of check on the judiciary. The judiciary, not the executive, has been the greatest (realized) threat to liberty and self-rule for some time now - obviously.


Let's have some decades of a judiciary checked and put back in its (very subsidiary) place. Judicial lawlessness is clearly the far greater peril, as it has no easily activated built-in safeguards in the constitution to constrain it.


Whatever's on paper, the practical reality is that the political branches are much quicker to limit each other, and have many more tools to do so, than anybody has over the courts. Thus their outrageous depredations.


The tiny, pathetic Roberts himself, in a dissent to one of Kennedy's more outlandishly lawless, reckless, and stupid rulings, warned that such arbitrary and bad faith behavior by SCOTUS threatened to unravel the constitutional order. Not being particularly insightful, Roberts of course greatly understated the situation. Long before he put on the stupid-looking black robe, that order had been unraveled, by the judiciary.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (QDnY+)

402 Kinky...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (hVdx9)

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Heh.

I've been thinking that, like with McDonald's, I'm going to stop eating ... Lefty women.

Posted by: ShainS at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (ZcAbN)

403 just wait till that HI (?) judge issues a ruling to inrease refugees intake from "troubled areas" by 20K. that'll will be a hoot !

Posted by: runner at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (c6/9Q)

404 Has the judge thought this through? Has anyone here? A ban on refugees means that they are effectively divided from us.

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf
****

Hey Shia, you want a place to hide your flag where it will never be stolen from?
Cram it up your *ss.
You are welcome Mr. LeDouche.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (hVdx9)

405 Erdogan foe is Fetullah Gulen. Gulen is no friend to us.
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Funny since he is living in Pa.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (y3aQB)

406 Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (QDnY+)

How do we repair years of judicial tyranny?

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 08:32 PM (u8Ywb)

407 How do you repudiate a court order without going Andrew Jackson.

If Trump had, what do you think the response would be?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2017 08:32 PM (SIY7D)

408
If the midterms were held next Tuesday, would the R's lose the House?

I say: Yes.

Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 08:32 PM (qTQac)

409 Kinky...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:23 PM (hVdx9)

======

Heh.

I've been thinking that, like with McDonald's, I'm going to stop eating ... Lefty women.

Posted by: ShainS
****
You only do so to pump up your ego, you pig. /

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 24, 2017 08:33 PM (hVdx9)

410 400 367 "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a

policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and

should be enacted as ordered?"

Dance off!
Posted by: tu3031 at March 24, 2017 08:21 PM (qJhUV)

You need at least three judges with the same impeccable qualifications for diving the truth to judge the contest... and another panel of judges of any odd number greater than three in the dance off loser does not accept defeat.

...might as well just draw lots...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (P/kVC)

Ro sham bo?

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 08:33 PM (u8Ywb)

411 Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:30 PM (QDnY+)



How do we repair years of judicial tyranny?

Posted by: CaliGirl
****

I say we blow the f*ckers up!

Posted by: Booger at March 24, 2017 08:34 PM (hVdx9)

412 If the midterms were held next Tuesday, would the R's lose the House?



I say: Yes.

Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 08:32 PM (qTQac)

I'd say yes, not because they failed to pass the bill, but because they tried to pass a bill the base did not want attempted.

Posted by: davidt at March 24, 2017 08:35 PM (XoldI)

413 Nood

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 24, 2017 08:36 PM (u8Ywb)

414 As I said above and many times before in this connection, it will be a miracle if any important Trump policy on immigration rule of law, and probably other areas too ("environmental" crap) is not gutted by lawless courts.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:19 PM (QDnY+)

IIRC Andrew Jackson liked to whittle, Trump does too. He knows what he wants/what needs to be done. He's getting the lay of the land and setting the table. When he's set the whittling will begin (it already has) and he will pare this government down more than we've seen in our lifetime.
It's a long pull.

Posted by: Don at March 24, 2017 08:36 PM (lZ9yI)

415 It's not Don dammit.

Posted by: gNewt at March 24, 2017 08:37 PM (lZ9yI)

416 Dear Trump:

Bush Sr. ran on a no new taxes pledge. He broke that pledge and was a one term president.

You ran on repealing Obamacare...

Posted by: Booger at March 24, 2017 08:38 PM (hVdx9)

417 IIRC Andrew Jackson liked to whittle, Trump does too. He knows what he wants/what needs to be done. He's getting the lay of the land and setting the table. When he's set the whittling will begin (it already has) and he will pare this government down more than we've seen in our lifetime.
It's a long pull.

Posted by: Don at March 24, 2017 08:36 PM (lZ9yI)


All I see both Trump and the House GOP getting splinters.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 24, 2017 08:38 PM (vBeA5)

418 EVLINC- He lives in a guarded compound in PA and you better check the islamist schools that he funds here.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2017 08:40 PM (3k5gg)

419 If the midterms were held next Tuesday, would the R's lose the House? I say: Yes.
Posted by: earworm worm


I say No.

The party of pussy hats is fading into obscurity. Their last best chance, by flooding the country with newly dependent voters, is ending.

It was a good run, but the producers aren't giving up because of democrats intransigence.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 24, 2017 08:40 PM (ZFUt7)

420 Repudiation of the courts on the current lawless outrage they have engaged in? Response?


Probably pretty favorable - from the public, I mean.


Beltway? OMG, fainting and hysteria. People there don't understand the system, those in the "law" especially don't seem to have much understanding of the law or the constitution - they are mostly highly-paid clerks.


Of course it would require a wrenching, radical change of approach by an R administration, actually going to the public and explaining the situation, instead of letting the "media" distort things beyond recognition.


But try to imagine a purportedly serious response of concern from some public figure. Not an idiot like McCain or hack like Schumer. Can't really think of the right person right now.


"I am gravely concerned that the president has repudiated a federal court"


Question: senator, didn't the court lack any basis in law for they ruled? Wasn't the president fully within his authority with the travel ban?


"Um, well, we have a long tradition of the court being the last word ....."


But senator, if a court is acting outside the law, especially in an area of concrete national security policy, how can a president uphold his oath and comply with the court?


"Um, well, we have this long tradition of ....."


Yes, it would be THAT pathetic.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2017 08:43 PM (QDnY+)

421 You're probably wondering, "What happens when one federal judge claims to have the power to enjoin a policy for the entire country, but another judge says it's fine and should be enacted as ordered?"

--------------------------------------

It is called getting down like it is 1860...Yea!

Posted by: William Eaton at March 24, 2017 08:44 PM (MuTTO)

422 Me too. And if it can't be done, fine, it won't be done. Trump is right, it will collapse. Another year or two of 100% increases and it's dead, replacement bill or no replacement bill.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 24, 2017 07:03 PM

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I still believe Obozocare was DESIGNED TO FAIL. Will never forget Bawney Fwank slipping up(?) and commenting, "It's the best path to Single Payer."

If O-care is not dismantled or is allowed to fail without a freer-market plan already in place, the country will NOT magically default to a free- market healthcare system. There's too much money and power at stake for politicians to ever allow that to happen. All dems and RINO squishes will be jumping on the single payer wagon.

And if Repubs fail to hold both houses of Congress in 2018, and significant headway towards killing O-care, we'll be stuck with it or worse forever.


Posted by: EyeTest at March 24, 2017 08:48 PM (5x9My)

423 408
If the midterms were held next Tuesday, would the R's lose the House?

I say: Yes.
Posted by: earworm worm at March 24, 2017 08:32 PM (qTQac)


I say no, if only because incumbents from both parties almost always win.

"Everyone else's congressman sucks, except for mine."

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2017 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

424 83 Because the temporary suspension is being administered in a temporary building built during WW2, by an agency that exists under a temporary statue (DHS) passed in response to 9/11, funded by temporary fee assessed on airline passengers for security after 9/11.

Temporary in DC is forever
Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2017 06:55 PM (zZb/S)

A "temporary" tax on new fangled telephones (then a rich man's thing) to fund the Spanish-American War lasted over a century before finally being repealed.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 25, 2017 07:37 PM (brIR5)

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