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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com | Tucker Carlson: We've Done Such a Thorough Job of Dividing Society Into the Educated Class and Non-Educated Class We've Destroyed Most Bonds of Compassion and Fellow-Feeling Between ThemHitting a note I've hit myself once or twice before. To the extent that Carlson’s on-air commentary these days is guided by any kind of animating idea, it is perhaps best summarized as a staunch aversion to whatever his right-minded neighbors believe. The country has reached a point, he tells me, where the elite consensus on any given issue should be "reflexively distrusted." "Look, it's really simple," Carlson says. "The SAT 50 years ago pulled a lot of smart people out of every little town in America and funneled them into a small number of elite institutions, where they married each other, had kids, and moved to an even smaller number of elite neighborhoods. We created the most effective meritocracy ever." "But the problem with the meritocracy," he continues, is that it "leeches all the empathy out of your society... The second you think that all your good fortune is a product of your virtue, you become highly judgmental, lacking empathy, totally without self-awareness, arrogant, stupid--I mean all the stuff that our ruling class is." Carlson recounts, with some amusement, how he saw these attitudes surface in his neighbors’ response to Trump’s victory. He recalls receiving a text message on election night from a stunned Democratic friend declaring his intention to flee the country with his family. Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone. "I mean people were, like, traumatized," he says. And yet, in the months since then, "no one I know has learned anything. There's been no moment of reflection...It's just, 'This is what happens when you let dumb people vote.'" Carlson finds this brand of snobbery particularly offensive: "Intelligence is not a moral category. That’s what I find a lot of people in my life assume. It’s not. God doesn’t care how smart you are, actually."I'd go further than that, and agree with Megan McArdle and Instapundit that while the New Mandarins are good at a very limited number of cognitive functions, they are sorely lacking in crucial ones, the ability to reject received wisdom among one of the most important. Those who have the most ego invested in the skill of repeating what Teacher has told them are naturally going to be very averse to suggesting the heresy that Teacher might be wrong. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
No way first
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 03:06 PM (HDU3V) 2
Democracy dies in darkness but if there's enough shit around you can still grow mushrooms.
--- The Washington Post Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 03:06 PM (eMrO3) 3
I'm agreeing, I will go get ghe corgis
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 03:06 PM (HDU3V) Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 23, 2017 03:07 PM (Gim9y) 5
I saw Black Diamonds open for The Question Marks in '88 at the Worcester Centrum. Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 23, 2017 03:08 PM (H4P6e) 6
First-ish
Posted by: Chicago Vota at February 23, 2017 03:08 PM (6xLO8) 7
Oh hey read that this morning
Posted by: Bigbys Photoshop Trump Hands at February 23, 2017 03:08 PM (HTifa) 8
I'd go further than that, and agree with Megan McArdle and Instapundit that while the New Mandarins are good at a very limited number of cognitive functions, they are sorely lacking in crucial ones, the ability to reject received wisdom among one of the most important.
===================== That's another way to describe how I've felt about Obama. He seems to be naturally intelligent, but he's never developed the skills necessary to challenge his own preconceived notions and he became intellectually incurious. So, he's a wasted intelligence. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (vur0q) 9
Some of the least intelligent people I have encountered have advanced degrees. I'm always flabbergasted that they made it into college - let alone through college.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (43OZ6) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (eMrO3) 11
Their subprime degrees aren't fooling people anymore. These aren't the degrees people were earning decades ago.
Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (nFwvY) 12
Top 30?
Posted by: Hikaru at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (eriW1) 13
So, he's a wasted intelligence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (vur0q) You misspelled "skin." Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:10 PM (43OZ6) 14
On a serious note, I've always been (old school) Republican; I remember being at a party where I was the only GOP, everyone knew it, and they made cracks about ' Republicans being too stupid to vote' and shit like that, and everyone else laughed.
The pressure to conform was immense. I have some libertarian leanings and all that, but I will NEVER be liberal. Never. I can't stomach a group that is so arrogant and schemes to deprive me of my liberty. It's funny because some of these same people will trust me when they go out of town, or say I am one of the smartest people they've met. But I'm too stupid to vote because I don't believe their schtick. Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 23, 2017 03:10 PM (Gim9y) 15
These reporters are now chasing a rabbit with this transgendered bathroom shit....insane.
Spicer is schooling them bigly. Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:10 PM (8iiMU) 16
Hey, we can't all be Neil deGrass Tysons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (ZxExd) 17
Those who have the most ego invested in the skill of repeating what Teacher has told them are naturally going to be very averse to suggesting the heresy that Teacher might be wrong.
Keep sticking the key into the cigarette lighter and wondering why the engine won't start. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (WFe5M) 18
Democracy dies in darkness. Evening Edition
Posted by: Chicago Vota at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (6xLO8) 19
Never liked the distinctions of Educated Class and Non-Educated Class. Much more applicable terminology is Credentialed versus Non-Credentialed. Many of the "educated" are often the dumbest bricks in the pile.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (1CroS) 20
Being smart is like being tall, or a fast runner. It is nice, and it makes you useful to other people, but there's nothing inherently good about it, and a lot of it is just luck.
Big frikkin' deal. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (CPk08) 21
These "elites" had kids, true, but not at a sustainable rate; if they had any at all (because Breeding puts such crimps in one's career) they had one, while many had none. So you have, in effect, reverse darwinism: people who were literally the result of thousands of years of selective breeding to improve their intelligence, etc., who selfishly chose not to reproduce because they were too busy being awash in their own awesomeness.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (CcljO) 22
".....are good at a very limited number of cognitive functions, they are sorely lacking in crucial ones..."
Ikr?! These people can't even put up shelving! j/k, j/k Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (Enq6K) Posted by: DaveA at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (8J/Te) Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (8XRCm) 25
Educated Indoctrinated class... FIFY
(Pretend there's strike-throughs in Educated.) (Don't try to teach me how to strike-through. I don't like education.) Posted by: irright at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (pMGkg) Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (rEdl2) 27
"[Carlson] recalls receiving a text message on election night from a stunned Democratic friend declaring his intention to flee the country with his family. Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone."
Heh, heh, heh. Love it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (EB9VD) 28
Wisdom though, that's stuff is pretty rare.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (CPk08) 29
When I was younger, I remember having a great deal of intrinsic trust toward people like doctors and teachers, at the great deal of knowledge that they must have gained to get to where they were.
Then I grew up and saw some of my friends become doctors and teachers. Posted by: joe, with palpable demonic activity at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (34w2E) 30
Never liked the distinctions of Educated Class and Non-Educated Class. Much more applicable terminology is Credentialed versus Non-Credentialed....
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel Ding, ding, ding. Correct. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (4YGWz) 31
There are some smart people with this attitude but most of them are simply credentialed rather than intelligent. Especially in the Ivies in the last 20 or so years, the sets of "possessed of desirable credentials" and "intelligent" overlap less than we'd like.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (RD7QR) 32
No.... you're a genius because you cant make a lamp. *extra ampersands for the moron that knows what movie that quote is from. Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (8XRCm) 33
>>>>>"Look, it's really simple," Carlson says. "The SAT 50 years ago pulled a
lot of smart people out of every little town in America and funneled them into a small number of elite institutions, where they married each other, had kids, and moved to an even smaller number of elite neighborhoods. We created the most effective meritocracy ever." . . .See this statement is part of the friggin problem. They think they have all of the smartest and bestest people there, they do not. The hubris in that single statement is epic. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (le7jz) 34
Education =/= Intelligence
Education =/= Wisdom Education =/= Virtue Some people try to parlay that one little thing to mean everything. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (hLRSq) 35
We used to have a saying on the flightline in Uncle Sam's Aero Club. It takes a college education to break it and a high school education to fix it. I gave 20 years of my life as an enlisted man on F-4's and F-16's. With few exceptions, those were the best people I've ever known in my life. Most may not have been able to to calculate Pi to the tenth decimal place but they knew more about living than most of the college educated people I've ever known.
It appears to me that it's the same sort of condescension folks on the left and right coast have toward the hard working people in flyover country. Posted by: Bill R. at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (jKUeC) 36
9 Some of the least intelligent people I have encountered have advanced degrees. I'm always flabbergasted that they made it into college - let alone through college.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (43OZ6) I had a variation that was, "Some of the brightest idiots I've ever met went to college". Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (4ErVI) 37
There's this book called Limbo, about classes in the workplace, and the difficulties that arise.
Basically it's WASP "Everything Shall Be As Smooth as Butter No Matter What" vs. Blue Collar "Shut Up and Let Me Tell You How Wrong You Are". Politicians: WASP. Trump: Blue Collar /anecdotally, the book also explained why every time I try to have a confrontation with someone, and I turn it down from 10 to 5, they end up crying and it goes badly. They need my level to go to -14, and it doesn't really go below 5 Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (J5mC3) 38
These reporters are now chasing a rabbit with this transgendered bathroom shit....insane.
The same reporters that criticize Trump for carefully placing rakes on his lawn for no obvious purpose are the ones who cannot resist for anything taking dashes across that lawn and stepping on the rakes. Posted by: Sporkatus at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (eXSOZ) 39
At least 50 years ago the kids going to college were probably learning something and having to work to earn the degrees.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (/f1mm) Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (8iiMU) 41
15 These reporters are now chasing a rabbit with this transgendered bathroom shit....insane.
Spicer is schooling them bigly. Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:10 PM (8iiMU) ==================== "Phew...I got a break..." -The Chicken Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (vur0q) 42
Democracy dyes in darkness because guys dig brunettes
Posted by: Chicago Vota at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (6xLO8) 43
Most of these jagoffs aren't nearly as smart as they fancy themselves, either. Quite a few used daddy's business connections to get good jobs, or are they are skilled at being superficially intelligent enough to bullshit their way into good ones.
A common trait among them is a lack of physical courage or toughness, I've noticed. Few served in the military or worked any manual labor jobs at any point. Somehow, a total lack of callouses on their hands makes them think they're our moral and intellectual betters. Posted by: UGAdawg at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (HL3BI) 44
9 Some of the least intelligent people I have encountered have advanced degrees. I'm always flabbergasted that they made it into college - let alone through college.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (43OZ6) It takes a shitload of formal education to make a person as stupid as your average far leftist. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (CPk08) 45
We're supposed to pretend it's still a meritocracy even though there is a thumb on the scale.
Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (nFwvY) 46
Just because you're educated doesn't mean you're smart.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (qJhUV) Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (8iiMU) 48
The hubris in that single statement is epic.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (le7jz) I agree. And it's off-putting. Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (43OZ6) 49
"The hubris in that single statement is epic."
Yes. What Carlson describes is anything but meritocracy. It's a phony, sterile credentialism. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (97XyN) 50
I'm really enjoying Tucker's show at 9.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (9U1OG) 51
"It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so."
Ronald Reagan Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 03:16 PM (xpfRn) 52
Lord Sir x,
I am sooooo stealing that. "Subprime degrees" perfectly encapsulates how catastrophically expensive and utterly worthless higher education has become. Posted by: Ernie McCracken at February 23, 2017 03:16 PM (VnalV) 53
I've known more than one man with a ph.D who could not change a tire, flip a circuit breaker, or pour warm pee out of a boot.
Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2017 03:16 PM (w7KSn) 54
I'm starting to just hate everyone who's not me.......
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (jjaLl) 55
Another Bush and Trump lie !!!! We wants Presdent Obasma back and Trump should be puts in jail now !!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboror, VT at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (WmgTn) 56
Breakfast Club.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (9U1OG) 57
I don't agree with people going to college dividing people into class. Way too many people go to college who should not.
What divides people into class in America is money. Those who work for it, those who inherit it, and those who live off the government. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (mpXpK) 58
Not to brag.... but Ive actually attended a MENSA meeting. One. I never went back. Id rather hang out with my drywallers after work. Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (8XRCm) 59
It has been my experience that a person who has a degree from an Ivy League school, or some specialized skill that is a bit uncommon, that person *tends* to believe that because they are bright in one specific area, that by G*d, they are geniuses.....gifted in every area of their lives. They don't know they don't know.
Posted by: LA ette, lakeside lurker at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (1Fay1) 60
There's been no moment of reflection...It's just, 'This is what happens when you let dumb people vote.'"
.............. Yeah, you get idiots like Obama. Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (HgMAr) 61
54 I'm starting to just hate everyone who's not me.......
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (jjaLl) Welcome to the dark side...... Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (CPk08) 62
On a serious note, I've always been (old school) Republican; I remember being at a party where I was the only GOP, everyone knew it, and they made cracks about ' Republicans being too stupid to vote' and shit like that, and everyone else laughed.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 23, 2017 03:10 PM (Gim9y) That's pretty much what liberalism, as an institution, is. People who learned in high school that you can gang up on people and make them conform or make other people shun them. This is one reason they keep whipsawing on details, like the rule of law, or who is favored this year, and why it doesn't matter to them that it's different from last year, because as long as the whole gang shifts, it doesn't matter what they did before. Which is why Clinton/Obama speeches on illegal immigration or gay marriage taking opposite positions don't phase them: these people Moved With The Tribe, and therefore the old place they were in doesn't matter. Also why "Sheets" Byrd wasn't persona non grata. He Moved With The Tribe and Shunned the Dreaded Other. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (wB8Tg) 63
There's something to what Tucker is saying, but the bigger factor is the Stalinist mindset that has made a successful long march through our educational and media establishments and fedgov bureaucracies.
It vigorously denies the hiring and promotion within its ranks of those who do not adhere to its ideology and attacks and intimidates any element of society that dares to resist it. Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (hA1V+) 64
You know, I've known loads of people that started out worse than I and became some of the biggest douche bags - more so when they become ultra wealthy than if they had not. It's a very predictable scale. I remember them as kids and it breaks my heart.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (rEdl2) 65
I agree with the poster above who said that the true distinction is not between "educated and uneducated", it's between "credentialed" and "non-credentialed."
I's also add "connected" and "non-connected." Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (7uYFy) 66
50 I'm really enjoying Tucker's show at 9.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:15 PM (9U1OG) ----- Hmm, can't remember who was in that time slot before Tucker. Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (hdpay) 67
Most of these jagoffs aren't nearly as smart as they fancy themselves, either. Quite a few used daddy's business connections to get good jobs, or are they are skilled at being superficially intelligent enough to bullshit their way into good ones.
--- This is covered in the book I mentioned up thread. Basically, Blue Collar kids are own their own, while WASPs hire and promote their children and their friends children who are complete idiots but know how to Play the Politics Game. Blue Collar kids have skills and talents, but don't know the Game, which makes life more difficult for them, especially since they're smart enough to see that the bosses son/daughter is useless. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (J5mC3) 68
I would say its not much to do with actual intelligence, more with the perceived notion that higher learning has elevated them.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (HDU3V) 69
It used to be, that a sign of a good education was being well rounded. Being able to field strip an AR, change a tire, cook a decent rotisserie rib-roast, be current on politics, and have a working knowledge of the major religions.
My grade school drop out uncle had a better education than I did for ages, and now its even worse. People are so locked into their own little worlds. So used to being an "expert" that they really can't live life. They have no idea how the world actually works. They have no idea what nature is really like. Its sad, with all the information and ease of travel, how intellectually bereft we've become. Posted by: Iblis at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (9221z) 70
I went to an elite private college in Minnesota in the late-80s and saw this first-hand. Very nice students from nice families, but shockingly compliant and predisposed to groupthink. I kept wondering how intelligent they really were because despite the high test scores and college grades, not many of them struck me as highly intelligent or curious.
Posted by: ExurbanDoug at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (Bw3B2) 71
I would take issue with the Carlson's assertion that those people are smarter or in any way represent a meritocracy. I would say that those people do have a level of smarts but what defines them is their choice to work in public policy and with the government.
Lots of people just as smart as that supposed meritocracy choose to be plumbers or electricians or to start their own small businesses outside of the trades. One of the problems is that the "meritocracy" thinks falsely that they are smarter. Carlson apparently is laboring under the same false assumption. Posted by: redbanzai at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (f5uaD) 72
My moonbat sister and BIL pulled that "conservative voters are stoooopid" line with me .....once.
I agreed with them and suggested that we institute a simple test of literacy and numeracy for voters. Nothing too onerous, just maybe 5th-grade level competency. And then I asked them which party would be hurt by that. Which party relies most on idiots that press a D button like trained chickens? (Ooops. That D button part gives away the answer!) Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (Nox3c) 73
Can't we boil all of this down to one question?
"What would President Trump say to an undocumented, trans-woman, who is smoking recreational marijuana in the girl's room, and who has committed some minor violation, such as a traffic ticket, and who worries about being deported?" (Actually the question about weed was a good one.) Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM (10LGw) 74
Spicer: " This is not a television show. You do not get to shout out questions. we get to raise our hands like big boys and girls. Shannon, you go next."
LOLOL!! Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (8iiMU) 75
John Fn Kerry's "educated". Anyone think he's smart?
Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (qJhUV) 76
I used to work for an Fuel Research company that was a DOD contractor. All scientists, these idiots didn't know enough to come out of the rain.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (9U1OG) 77
Never liked the distinctions of Educated Class and Non-Educated Class. Much more applicable terminology is Credentialed versus Non-Credentialed....
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel ---- pro sports are loaded with college graduates. Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (PNcou) 78
Apologies for off topic post before 100 but gotta take off. Dusty room alert.
Article: 'Mother decides to carry baby without brain to term to donate organs' http://preview.tinyurl.com/z266fjl Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (87y4e) 79
A very very wise man once told me:
"It ain't the degree you get, it's what you do with it after you get it that counts." And he was right. He never went to college, yet he was an engineering supervisor who was very successful. He said he hired far far more 'average' people than 'geniuses', because there are more of them. And they worked harder. Posted by: Mr Wolf at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (rD+jq) 80
Hmm, can't remember who was in that time slot before Tucker.
Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM No one else can either Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 03:19 PM (HDU3V) 81
On paper, since I have a B.A. and M.A. in history, I should be a Leftist, right? Or some sort of elitist snob? Hardly. And when asked about why I'm not going forward with a PhD, I cite the fact that for most history PhDs, it takes seven years in this country, and after all that...what awaits on the other side? Employment? HA! But also along with that is the snobbery, the elitism, and indeed, the Leftism which is a religion in academia. I am quite averse to that. My right-wing tendencies were tolerated because "well, he's a veteran". That I also had and have real world experiences with real employers and have seen the world to go with that is wisely left unsaid.
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Not to brag.... but Ive actually attended a MENSA meeting. One. I never went back. Id rather hang out with my drywallers after work. Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:17 PM (8XRCm) I'd rather drink shoe polish while a platoon of drunken Ukrainian weight lifters takes turns stepping on my balls. Holy crap. Mensa...... Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:20 PM (CPk08) 83
Tucker sees the dividing line as between those who are "Smart" / "Elitely Educated" and those who are not, and if your perspective is limited by yourself being in the DC MSM bubble, that's what it'll look like.
I say it's between those in The Borg and those who aren't. The Borg is the unholy alliance of BigGov, MSM, Academia, and some BigBiz industries, which predominates in some but not all of our cities, but especially in DC. Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2017 03:20 PM (SIY7D) 84
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No.... you're a genius because you cant make a lamp. *extra ampersands for the moron that knows what movie that quote is from. Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (8XRCm) Breakfast Club? Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:20 PM (0mRoj) 85
I definitely see this attitude with conservatives regarding both trade and immigration.
The "elites" (even though they aren't all that elite) will go on and on about how it's a good thing we can find someone else to do these manufacturing jobs that are so beneath them for cheaper or import workers for much less, not realizing that some CPI chart doesn't take into effect the real human cost of having whole swaths of the country become impoverished and out of work. Posted by: Maritime at February 23, 2017 03:20 PM (RWFgc) 86
Those who have the most ego invested in the skill of repeating what Teacher has told them are naturally going to be very averse to suggesting the heresy that Teacher might be wrong.
I am extraordinarily skilled at typing words on a screen and taking tests. What does that say about my actual intelligence? Nothing. What does it say about my moral character? Frankly, if there is any correlation, and there isn't, it would be a negative one. This notion that one very narrow, very circumscribed, very very very boring manner of expressing the simulacrum of intelligence grants to its bearer Absolute Moral Authority is risible. You know who is very academically gifted? Peter Singer. You know whose academic view of morality is abhorrent? Peter Singer. In fact, I would argue that the better that one is in dealing solely with abstracts, the more removed for notions of morality one becomes. When one can view other human beings are primarily abstract objects, the import of theory on those abstractions is also abstract. Or, less snottily, when other human beings are just widgets, who cares if you chuck a bunch of them into a furnace? Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (mf5HN) 87
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Blue Collar kids have skills and talents, but don't know the Game, which makes life more difficult for them, especially since they're smart enough to see that the bosses son/daughter is useless. ------------------ Blue Collar kids also do things like get a summer job to earn some extra cash, while the WASP kids spend their summer "volunteering" to "raise awareness of XXXXXX". The latter is usually much easier, and also tends to look better on the college application. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (nsZ+m) Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (xpfRn) Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (8XRCm) 90
I've known more than one man with a ph.D who could not change a tire, flip a circuit breaker, or pour warm pee out of a boot.
Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2017 03:16 PM (w7KSn) The Absent-Minded Professor used to be a staple of comedy. Now I think it would hit a little too close to home for many people to feel comfortable with. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (hLRSq) 91
the thing is our new mandarins aren't that much more smart than the rest of the crowd. Smart-er, sure... so smart that they are entitled to a unique set of truths that far out pace the rest of society... hardly. That's the problem and the rub. They feel they can look into god's eyes and see the way things ought to be then get lazy in trying to make it true without criticality of thought. They dismiss the experience of others because they believe they are the zenith. However, those "left behind" are a lot smarter than given credit. They didn't get all As or memorize the complete works of Shakespeare but they have to do things to get through when the times aren't nearly as easy and the smart ones of those can see the knock on impacts of various things.
Not all of the intelligence comes hither to the urban centers and when they do the maintain friends from normal world and know their struggles and see what actually happens. Smart people are smart... but none of us smart people have perfected levitation yet. I'm in that elite class scientifically yet I can't do a lot of things normal people do... we ain't as smart as we think we are Posted by: Former mass resident at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (Px4PF) 92
Aaaaand Tami gives a lap dance to the banhammer
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (xpfRn) ------ Wha??? What is JackStraw going think of her now??? Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (8XRCm) 93
Does marijuana make you smart--like Bono?
Posted by: Asshole Pool Reporters at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (UOJLJ) 94
If nothing else the higher educated have been mostly cookie pressed into group think Leftism.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (HDU3V) 95
"What would President Trump say to an undocumented, trans-woman, who is
smoking recreational marijuana in the girl's room, and who has committed some minor violation, such as a traffic ticket, and who worries about being deported?" --- "Cover your dick up and get out of the ladies room." Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (J5mC3) 96
Even if all the "smart and credentialed" people voted for them , the Democrats would still need the votes of daffy senior citizens, ghetto ignoramuses, non-English speaking peasants and even the non-living ---all voting multiple times--to win any national election....
Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (7uYFy) 97
Oh, oh, even better. A friend of mine is a college graduate. One day we're texting and watching in CT a UCONN basketball game live in Tennessee. She's all excited because her cousin will be at the game. There's a time difference between CT and TN. She actually said to me that she was gonna love filling them in on the score when they get to the game. I said to her, it's live, they're there watching it now. She says, no they're an hour earlier than us so they won't be at the game for another hour. She says, I can't wait to tell them the halftime score. Oy!
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (9U1OG) 98
Bunch of credentialed folks who think it's a good idea to buy their power tools at Ikea, eh?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (/f1mm) 99
Intelligence is real, and education are real. They're not fake measures or useless, but they're also *potential* rather than work, and they can be done wrong as easily as right.
Being smart or educated doesn't *stop* you from being dumb as well. One of my recent rants was that everybody's dumb - smart people, stupid people, tall people, short people, rich people, poor people - everybody's dumb. From this point of view, the world makes a lot of sense. "Dumb" isn't really the opposite of smart, it's just bad judgement. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (wB8Tg) 100
Repeating what teacher told them, love it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (o/Ar3) 101
Hmm, can't remember who was in that time slot before Tucker.
Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2017 03:18 PM No one else can either It was ME, dammit! ME!!! Manolo! Another margarita!!! Posted by: Megyn Kelly at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (qJhUV) 102
If we're so smart, why do we let Morlocks vote?
Posted by: eloi at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (PNcou) 103
Agree with#31 and #65, "credentialed" and "connected" is the divide. Have to be both to be the (self) "chosen" ones.
Posted by: geoffb5 at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (d3wbb) 104
I've made this point before, but...
We've all heard the line about Mussolini making the train run on time, right? First off, no, he didn't, Fascist Italy was corrupt and poorly run, in addition to being Fascist. But. *If* it were true? A competent autocracy at least has the competency going for it, and it can be debated. We absolutely don't have the competency part of the equation, so these so-called elite mandarin Our Betters really need to STFU and get out of the way, because we're rolling the dice and trying something new. If A doesn't work and has never really worked, I'mma gonna try B preeeeety much no matter what. And then when that fails, C and keep fvcking going down the alphabet until I find one I can deal with. I don't know what letter Trump is on, but it's at least exciting and different. Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (u0s1P) 105
Assholiness dies under a blinding light.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (IqV8l) 106
Aaaaand Tami gives a lap dance to the banhammer
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (xpfRn) I live on the edge, huh? Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (Enq6K) 107
"The SAT 50 years ago pulled a lot of smart people out of every little
town in America and funneled them into a small number of elite institutions, where they married each other, had kids, and moved to an even smaller number of elite neighborhoods. We created the most effective meritocracy ever." It was by no means just the advent of the SAT. Several other different things happened roughly in the same time frame which led to the rise of the New Class. One was a huge augmentation of prominence for the soft-hands symbol-manipulating professions: law, media, education. All of those controlled by gatekeeper guilds which now demanded a college degree, even though teaching and reporting (and even the practice of law in some places) had previously been done perfectly well under an apprenticeship system without a university requirement. With a corresponding disparagement of those jobs which actually do and make things, and allow a modern industrial society to function, but which often require getting dirty or physically exhausted, and which don't need a college diploma on the wall. And, the icing on the cake, one of the worst SCOTUS decisions in history, _Griggs v. Duke Power_, which as collateral damage ended up formally and permanently enshrining college education as an employment sorting device. Highly natively intelligent people without a sheepskin were shoved to the back of the social queue; dimwitted inbred legacy admissions from Ivies were moved promptly to the front. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (noWW6) 108
"...If the instructions were printed on the bottom of the heel."
Posted by: The AoSHQ Dept. Of Charming Colloquial Expression Completion at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (eMrO3) 109
I heard a comment from Anders Ericsson that went something like "IQ tests are very good at identifying people who are good at taking IQ tests."
Some kinds of intelligence make people better at the kind of things that predicate success in college and make them good at sounding like they're "smart." However it's a huge mistake to think the the big-word-using college professor is automatically superior to the slow talking farm boy. I deal with both in my job and I believe strongly that the quality of the person and their decision making ability is not automatically correlated to "intelligence" or education. Posted by: ChuckGlee at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (mRpP+) 110
Tucker...Define WE...I'm not part of that...are you? Really...define We.
Posted by: Mike at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (vGFvO) 111
Is it noteworthy that after chiding commenters for calling "cucks" the self-styled conservatives who have made accomodation with our neoStalinist overlords, Ace has now adopted a literal cuck as his Twitter trolling device?
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (hA1V+) 112
The Absent-Minded Professor used to be a staple of comedy. Now I think it would hit a little too close to home for many people to feel comfortable with.
--- I really like The Big Bang Theory, but that describes all the males on that show but Howard, who is an engineer. Also... all the men are different degrees of Beta Male, except Sheldon, who seems to have various personality disorders. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (J5mC3) 113
I'm not entirely comfortable with populism because I don't think our Founding Fathers were a bunch of average Joes. They were extraordinary people.
But that's because they were broadly educated (according to the standards of their time) and wise enough to know they didn't know everything and couldn't be trusted to act wisely if they held all the power in their hands. Hence checks and balances. Hence Washington turning down the opportunity to be King. Our elites are not wise and not humble. Their knowledge of history can be summed up as Everything Is the White Man's Fault. Oh, and all past generations were stupid, bigoted Christianists who weren't smart and enlightened like us. They are proud of being ignorant of things like guns or the Bible because only dumb people know about those things. They're not well educated enough to imagine they can be wrong about stuff. And they want to tell the rest of us how to live. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (ZM2xo) Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+) 115
The people with the highest IQ are actually pretty good at rejecting or questioning received wisdom. But they aren't the elites, in part for that reason. The elites are made up of people in the 8 or 9 range on wordsum who were immersed in the social skills needed to succeed in our society, there's no real life outcome benefit to having a higher score than that.
There certainly has been a giant brain drain from rural areas, there are barely enough people competent to do the essential functions in these counties. But I don't know what better alternatives there are, if you are a young kid smart enough to realize that you can have more in life, you aren't going to stay in rural America unless you are basically trapped there or unless you have a very strong preference for that lifestyle that you can't sate adequately as a weekend warrior. The people pulled away by the meritocracy to elite enclaves would have just been miserable staying in Union City Tennessee all their lives if they hadn't gotten the opportunity. Posted by: Cjw at February 23, 2017 03:25 PM (MAJoQ) 116
Another transgender question.
Spicer: "You are missing the point. The President said it is literally a State decision. It wasn't implemented correctly, and the court stopped it. we are not reversing it. The court stopped it. There is no legal basis for it. We are saying it's a States' rights issue." Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:25 PM (8iiMU) 117
100 Repeating what teacher told them, love it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (o/Ar3) ===================== I think that's what Obama ended up doing from high school on. He fell into the pattern of repeating what his teachers said and wanted to hear so often for so long, that he lost his inclination to independent thought that challenged things he already "knew". In many ways, it's the story of all of modern leftism. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (vur0q) 118
Liberals think everyone is stupid or at least less intelligent than they are. That includes their fellow travelers. They may kiss their dem heroes asses but they're always thinking that they are just as smart or smarter. It's who they are.
I always laugh when I think of how much they wanted to call Romney dumb and how much it aggravated them that his resume wouldn't let them do it directly. Make no mistake though, they beat around the edges the best they could. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (VeUrT) 119
I think this is an example of that rejection of credentialism and why there has been such a backlash at that, even to the point where ace has complained a bit about that backlash in the past. It's not that people have been unwilling to listen to the "credentialed," it's that the "credentialed" have declared "shut up we're your betters and do as we say you ignorant little plebes."
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (z/Ubi) 120
These "elites" had kids, true, but not at a sustainable rate; if they had any at all (because Breeding puts such crimps in one's career) they had one, while many had none. So you have, in effect, reverse darwinism: people who were literally the result of thousands of years of selective breeding to improve their intelligence, etc., who selfishly chose not to reproduce because they were too busy being awash in their own awesomeness.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (CcljO) ----------------------------- A thousands times this. My sister--a former attorney--and and husband who holds a Phd in chemical engineering, had only one child. They are the biggest, most ignorant liberals you've every met. LOATHE Trump and spew the most pathetic pablum on FB. All the ridiculous talking points. They eat up the Daily Show "news" dutifully. I snark back at their posts but rarely get a response. I guess my conservative remarks are so stupid, they don't deserve a reply. Posted by: fly gal at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (8TdcF) Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (qJhUV) 122
Jesus...this reporter will NOT let this bathroom crap go.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (Enq6K) 123
Another transgender question.
--- Subtext: Transgender is common, normal and not deviant. Next up on the agenda: Pedophilia. They've already normalized gay. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (J5mC3) 124
I've got advanced degrees across a number of subjects, but I don't consider myself smart, because I'm still a wage slave. Getting a PhD isn't about being smart. Its about being determined or stubborn enough to jump through all the hoops they make you jump through while trying to write a 200 page book.
Posted by: Iblis at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (9221z) 125
Does marijuana make you smart--like Bono?
Posted by: Asshole Pool Reporters at February 23, 2017 03:22 PM (UOJLJ) .......... Sure, except in geography. Posted by: Gary Johnson at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (HgMAr) 126
It's interesting to note that as much as the Media loves to advertise itself as a 'fourth branch' of government, they have never grasped the concept "okay, fine if that's what you want but understand that we the people are the government, so you have to represent our interests".
Ask the questions WE want the answers to. React to insanity and political-driven stupidity the way WE do. Quit acting like these lunatic permachild protesters are just SO "fascinating "and "important " and not a bunch of poo flinging toddlers. This is how you got Trump. This is how you got Tucker. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (qU2ch) 127
Spicer: "There is a difference between what people feel and what is legal. The procedure wasn't followed. For you to suggest 'what message we are sending' it is simple: it is a State issue."
Lord, these reporters are stupid dickheads.... Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (8iiMU) 128
113 I'm not entirely comfortable with populism because I don't think our Founding Fathers were a bunch of average Joes. They were extraordinary people.
But that's because they were broadly educated (according to the standards of their time) and wise enough to know they didn't know everything and couldn't be trusted to act wisely if they held all the power in their hands. Hence checks and balances. Hence Washington turning down the opportunity to be King. Our elites are not wise and not humble. Their knowledge of history can be summed up as Everything Is the White Man's Fault. Oh, and all past generations were stupid, bigoted Christianists who weren't smart and enlightened like us. They are proud of being ignorant of things like guns or the Bible because only dumb people know about those things. They're not well educated enough to imagine they can be wrong about stuff. And they want to tell the rest of us how to live. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:24 PM (ZM2xo) ==================== You know what James Madison did for six months before the constitutional convention? He locked himself in his father's office and studied republics and their constitutions. Would we have someone like that at a new constitutional convention if one were to be called today? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (vur0q) 129
122 Jesus...this reporter will NOT let this bathroom crap go.
-- That one has restiest, bitchiest resting bitch face in the room. Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (10LGw) 130
Sheila Jackson Lee? Get out! Wow I guess that's a condemnation of universities in Virginia.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (9U1OG) 131
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (vur0q
Old South American idiom. The parrot says what it knows but doesn't know what it says. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (VeUrT) 132
I say it's between those in The Borg and those who aren't +++ Wut? No it's all about the Hajnal line Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (rEdl2) 133
When I was younger, I remember having a great deal of intrinsic trust toward people like doctors and teachers, at the great deal of knowledge that they must have gained to get to where they were.
Then I grew up and saw some of my friends become doctors and teachers. Posted by: joe, with palpable demonic activity How true. I have two particular friends I went to school with who are now oncologists, but they are very good at what they do. Confession: I scored in the 99th percentile on my SAT tests back in the dark ages of the early '70's, and that made me a National Merit Scholarship finalist. I got letters from universities all over the country. Man, did I think I was special then. It took me a lot of years to finally get over that. I realized after some years how this sort of thinking was encouraged, and how unhealthy it is. I work with some guys of above average, average and actually below average intelligence. They are still human beings, and still deserve to be treated with some respect. This whole notion of elites and IQ and all that other rubbish is unhealthy for everyone. I see similar kids today, and actually feel kind of sorry for them. This sort of thing is NOT going to help them in the long run. Every body needs a degree of humility, because none of us are THAT smart. Well, maybe Freeman Dyson. And from what I have read, he is actually quite a nice and humble man. I don't have an answer to it, but it is really a self-inflicted wound on our country and culture. Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (RFeQD) 134
I find it odd democrats complaining about " this is what happens when you let dumb people vote" ... 70% of their voters are blacks and Mexicans . Not to say they are all low IQ in the respective populations but the only reason they vote D is because they believe it benefits their race/ ethnic group. So not really about anything except self enrichment.
Posted by: Sam at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (1ANfd) 135
Alcoholic Asshole Shut In: "I'd rather drink shoe polish while a platoon of drunken Ukrainian weight lifters takes turns stepping on my balls."
That's hawt. Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (1CroS) 136
Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (GwIKd) 137
128. I believe we would have Ted Cruz locked in that room studying the books.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (9U1OG) 138
"In fact, I would argue that the better that one is in dealing solely with abstracts, the more removed for notions of morality one becomes. When one can view other human beings are primarily abstract objects, the import of theory on those abstractions is also abstract. "
Exactly. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (ZM2xo) Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (jjaLl) 140
Jesus...this reporter will NOT let this bathroom crap go.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (Enq6K) *insert pee-pee dance joke* Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (hLRSq) 141
An interesting map I saw a couple weeks ago was state by state map pertaining to where immigrants originated. Largest immigrant group. Remember the shock on Election Night of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, lesser shocking Ohio? Germans largest immigrant group. Many who fled before things went really bad in WW1 and WW2. Yeah, they voted for Hitler (according to msm). No, you dumbf-cks in the msm. The democrats destroyed their factories and jobs. They got even. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (ZFUt7) Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (8iiMU) 143
114 "God doesn't care how smart you are, actually."
God only cares how true you are. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+) Does truly worthless count? Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (0mRoj) 144
118 Liberals think everyone is stupid or at least less intelligent than they are. That includes their fellow travelers. They may kiss their dem heroes asses but they're always thinking that they are just as smart or smarter. It's who they are.
I always laugh when I think of how much they wanted to call Romney dumb and how much it aggravated them that his resume wouldn't let them do it directly. Make no mistake though, they beat around the edges the best they could. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (VeUrT) =================== My wife and I got into a fight a few weeks ago about politics. It doesn't happen often. Anyway, she let out that she thought that I thought that she was stupid because we had political disagreements. I was a little shocked that I had to explain that two very intelligent people can come to very different conclusions on the same issue. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (vur0q) 145
With respect to intelligence, as someone with a post grad degree I'm well acquainted with many smart people who are in many ways incompetent. Also, I know plenty with a degree who lack in smarts and/or don't understand key parts of the topic of their major.
I know many very capable and smart people without degrees. It also strikes me that maturity is more important for success than intelligence in most areas. I've also met some super smart people who have a very limited range of function. Posted by: Don at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (xpAyB) 146
That one has restiest, bitchiest resting bitch face in the room.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:27 PM (10LGw) Definitely! She always looks like someone just farted in her face. Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (Enq6K) 147
#20 That is insane. Don't come back here.
Posted by: Mike at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (vGFvO) 148
The desire to conform is a type of emotional weakness, and intelligence or education don't necessarily counteract it. I don't mean that conformists are stupid, I mean that conforming is psychologically easy, whereas debating an opposing viewpoint can be a challenge. This is especially true when one is a distinct minority in challenging an idea. I was fortunate to grow up in a family where challenging viewpoints was an every day occurrence and got used to it.
People used to go to university and be challenged by alternate views, but for many years now, the universities have been closed to anything other than one viewpoint. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2017 03:30 PM (7ZVPa) 149
Subtext: Transgender is common, normal and not deviant.
Next up on the agenda: Pedophilia. They've already normalized gay. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (J5mC3) Anyone else notice how many stories of gays being molested as kids came out of the Milo kerfluffle? Not to belabor the point, but there is a reason they've begun to push to lower the age of consent. Posted by: Iblis at February 23, 2017 03:30 PM (9221z) 150
Definitely! She always looks like someone just farted in her face.
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (Enq6K) Psssssst..... it's her own farts!!!!! Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2017 03:30 PM (jjaLl) 151
Huh. I was wondering what smelled like shoe polish...
Posted by: Randall Graves at February 23, 2017 03:30 PM (u9OP6) 152
I believe we would have Ted Cruz locked in that room studying the books.
--- I'm very Cruz neutral, but from what I know of him, I'd agree. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:30 PM (J5mC3) 153
137 128. I believe we would have Ted Cruz locked in that room studying the books.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (9U1OG) =================== If he was in that specific room, I think that I might just have some sort of nerd-gasm. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:31 PM (vur0q) 154
My wife and I got into a fight a few weeks ago about politics.
It doesn't happen often. Anyway, she let out that she thought that I thought that she was stupid because we had political disagreements. I was a little shocked that I had to explain that two very intelligent people can come to very different conclusions on the same issue. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (vur0q) So was she dumb enough to buy your explanation? Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:31 PM (hA1V+) 155
Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone.
----- Threadwinner. Posted by: fixerupper at February 23, 2017 03:12 PM (8XRCm) Yeah. Bravo for Tucker. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:31 PM (ZM2xo) 156
Tucker's show is the best on tv today
Posted by: Yo! at February 23, 2017 03:31 PM (GwIKd) 157
One of my ancestors came to America in 1644 and bought a 50 acre farm in lower Manhattan. Today, none of our family, owns any real estate in NYC. We live in flyover country. By that standard, I guess we're not elite; thank God.
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (gbWkA) 158
"What would President Trump say to an undocumented, trans-woman, who is smoking recreational marijuana in the girl's room, and who has committed some minor violation, such as a traffic ticket, and who worries about
being deported?" --- "Cover your dick up and get out of the ladies room." Posted by: shibumi Don't worry about Trump. Worry about the teamster whose wife happens to be in the stall next to the hairy assed guy. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (WFe5M) 159
>>>>Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia.
The defense rests... . . .Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) 160
Children of rich people learn the the skill to be rich even if they aren't the snappiest riding crop in the polo stables.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (VeUrT) 161
"How dumb you are is determined by what part of the United States you are standing in."
-- Burt Reynolds, from Smokey and the Bandit Posted by: Isophorone at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (rvgcl) 162
I think a useful indicator of real intelligence is variety of pursuits. It indicates genuine curiosity and willingness to do other, new things. It also implies broader experience.
One-trick ponies are not impressive. Posted by: Apostate at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (TDhf0) 163
Anyway, she let out that she thought that I thought that she was stupid because we had political disagreements. I was a little shocked that I had to explain that two very intelligent people can come to very different conclusions on the same issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (vur0q) ---- And was this, in fact, one of those occasions? Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (PNcou) 164
1. we learn that GOP normally gets college educated males.
2. a lot of DNC voters are, ahhhhhhhhhhh, how to put it...dumb blue collar union thugs and ....ummmmmmmmmmmm....inner city folks. and muslims...and illegals. Not high IQ demographics. eh? 3. If anything, Carlson discovered that democrat voters are low empathy voters. The kind of folks who will virtue signal for fake avatars the media puts up (those "migrants" who just want a better life) at expense of real people. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (eClek) 165
154 So was she dumb enough to buy your explanation?
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:31 PM (hA1V+) ================= *sarcastic laugh* If you think only dumb people disagree with your policy preferences, that's a failing on your part. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (vur0q) 166
...If the instructions were printed on the bottom of the heel
+++ One of the guiding principles in my life is: the dumber it is, the more important it probably is. So. A boot full of piss, being dumb, might just be important to someone else so I personally wouldn't touch it. Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (rEdl2) 167
so basically, libs are emotional retards. See also, the blue hair and obesity.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (eClek) 168
Being smart is like being tall, or a fast runner. It is nice, and it makes you useful to other people, but there's nothing inherently good about it, and a lot of it is just luck.
===== I revel in my dumbness. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (qU2ch) 169
How have Tucker's ratings been holding up? Still doing well or has the honeymoon period worn off?
I'd love for it to wind up being that he stays consistently ahead of what MeAgain had. Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (z/Ubi) 170
163 And was this, in fact, one of those occasions?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (PNcou) ===================== She's smarter than me, so yes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (vur0q) 171
One was a huge augmentation of prominence for the soft-hands symbol-manipulating professions: law, media, education.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 03:23 PM (noWW6) ------------ And expanded health care as percent of workforce. Interestingly, Sir John "Glubb Pasha" Glubb identified proliferating institutions of higher education and broadening higher ed. attendance as an indicator of the decline stage of an empire (state). Posted by: RioBravo at February 23, 2017 03:34 PM (SsblQ) 172
Anyway, she let out that she thought that I thought that she was stupid because we had political disagreements.
A couple months back my wife seemed...shall we say, skeptical...of my support for Trump over Hillary. She noted that she knew absolutely no one else (bear in mind this is coastal California, and her office is in the leftist-of-the-left environments) who was backing Trump. Then he won the election. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:34 PM (TppKb) 173
The Absent-Minded Professor used to be a staple of comedy. Now I think it would hit a little too close to home for many people to feel comfortable with.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (hLRSq) No no, I'm that absent minded professor and I have the university title to boot. I can be clueless as shit because I'm thinking of something else. And I'll also say this: most folks like me, who can be very clueless, and know it, but have a narrow crazy expertise in an obscure but occasionally and oddly important area have politics like MINE. I don't like being told what to do or how I should feel or talk and groupthink really annoys the snot out of me. Me, and people like me have never fit in anywhere, being too close to the border of frank autism to ever succumb to the illusion that everyone should feel similarly about topic X. So identity politics? Screw it. has nothing to do with how I relate to the world, or should relate to the world. Education? I have tried and tried, but I cannot educate anyone to think the way I do to do my job. They either come to me already thinking that way, in which case we have a lot of fun, or they are more normal and it is a lost cause. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:34 PM (CPk08) 174
So, resting bitchy face reporter is Rich Lowery in black face?
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 03:34 PM (UOJLJ) 175
If you think only dumb people disagree with your policy preferences, that's a failing on your part.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:33 PM (vur0q) humorlessguysaywha? Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (hA1V+) 176
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Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia. The defense rests... Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM ------------------ Are YOU going to flunk a black woman?? I didn't think so. Posted by: University of Virginia at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (pMGkg) 177
"Cover your dick up and get out of the ladies room." Posted by: shibumi Don't worry about Trump. Worry about the teamster whose wife happens to be in the stall next to the hairy assed guy. --- Clarification: my response is what Trump would say the to transgender in the ladies room. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (J5mC3) 178
Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone.
----- Threadwinner. ******** Right? The "I'm moving" thing is some sort of autistic screeching begging for a conciliatory move. "there there, you're too important to leave. join the resistance" Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (eClek) 179
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humorlessguysaywha? Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (hA1V+) ==================== Wha? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (vur0q) 180
I always laugh when I think of how much they wanted to call Romney dumb and how much it aggravated them that his resume wouldn't let them do it directly. Make no mistake though, they beat around the edges the best they could.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:26 PM (VeUrT) People on the Left are saying point blank that Ben Carson is stupid. Not that his positions are stupid. Not that he thinks wacky things. That he's stupid. Literally dumb. Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? But hey, he's stupid and dumb. Okie dokie. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN) 181
"You know what James Madison did for six months before the constitutional
convention? He locked himself in his father's office and studied republics and their constitutions. Would we have someone like that at a new constitutional convention if one were to be called today?" Well, we've got Ruth Baader-Meinhof, who has extensively studied the new post-apartheid Constitution of South Africa. (And repeatedly declared its innate superiority over our own.) Unfortunately, she seems to believe that it's legally and procedurally correct for her to issue Supreme Court opinions in the USA based on that Constitution rather than on the one which we actually have. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (noWW6) 182
159 >>>>Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia.
The defense rests... . . .Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) Black Privilege. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (VeUrT) Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (8iiMU) 184
Children of rich people learn the the skill to be rich even if they aren't the snappiest riding crop in the polo stables.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth Also helps to start out with a $5 million trust fund vs a 40 hr work week at minimum wage. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (WFe5M) 185
Advantages of dumbness
- people feel sorry for you and give you things - you can say anything because Hey! Your dumb! - you get the same exciting "learning experiences " over and over and over Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (qU2ch) 186
147 #20 That is insane. Don't come back here.
Posted by: Mike at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (vGFvO) Why? Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (CPk08) 187
Or, less snottily, when other human beings are just widgets, who cares if you chuck a bunch of them into a furnace?
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:21 PM (mf5HN) Preach it, sister! Posted by: Margaret Sanger at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (nIGPZ) 188
Too many from the credentialed class end up in the US Government graft system. So happy to know that the top quality test takers are interested in how I live, and what I must do better.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (7N6ox) Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (rEdl2) 190
Just one of my meandering thoughts, but the 20th century also had an almost universal social leveling with the world wars. Every town had its VFW and Legion halls where small d democracy was living.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (MIKMs) 191
Rush says it best. Our schools refuse to teach criticle thinking; the ability to connect the dots to events. Education is a learning process. Intelligence is the ability to adapt to one's environment. Schools are refusing to assmilate the two.
Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (Fmupd) Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (J5mC3) 193
I just have to say, Keith Ellison as the head of the DNC has me quaking in my boots. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (ZFUt7) 194
180 People on the Left are saying point blank that Ben Carson is stupid. Not that his positions are stupid. Not that he thinks wacky things. That he's stupid. Literally dumb.
Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? But hey, he's stupid and dumb. Okie dokie. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN) ===================== I remember hearing/reading people say/write, "Well, surgery really isn't as demanding as other medical disciplines." As though the difference between an internist and a surgeon (if there is a difference) is akin to the difference between say...a Harvard educated know it all who did nothing in the Illinois legislature on his way to the presidency and a country bumpkin who can't tie his shoes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (vur0q) 195
159 >>>>Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia.
The defense rests... . . .Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) Black Privilege.>>> Obama is a Constitutional Scholar. Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (qXFhJ) 196
"She noted that she knew absolutely no one else (bear in mind this is
coastal California, and her office is in the leftist-of-the-left environments) who was backing Trump. Then he won the election." Pauline Kael on line two. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 03:38 PM (noWW6) 197
Interestingly, Sir John "Glubb Pasha" Glubb
The only reason I know squat about him is because he was the brother of Gwenda Stewart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwenda_Hawkes Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:38 PM (TppKb) 198
There was no reflection because it wasn't a reflective pool.
Posted by: arminius at February 23, 2017 03:38 PM (382aI) 199
191 Rush says it best. Our schools refuse to teach criticle thinking; the ability to connect the dots to events. Education is a learning process. Intelligence is the ability to adapt to one's environment. Schools are refusing to assmilate the two.
Posted by: Soona at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (Fmupd) ===================== St. Augustine put it this way (paraphrase): My education was most valuable when my teachers taught me HOW to think rather than WHAT to think. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:39 PM (vur0q) 200
The higher you start on a ladder the higher you are after dropping down one or two steps.
-Confusist Posted by: Undocumented at February 23, 2017 03:39 PM (SsblQ) 201
If these educated types are so smart, why did not one of them prove their ineffable genius by inventing unscrewing the housing of a Radio Shack clock and then putting the parts into a box?
I rest my case. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 03:39 PM (8nWyX) 202
This reporter asking about safe zones seems like one of ours. (Well-spoken, polite, asks an actual question.)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:39 PM (10LGw) 203
People on the Left are saying point blank that Ben
Carson is stupid. Not that his positions are stupid. Not that he thinks wacky things. That he's stupid. Literally dumb. Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? But hey, he's stupid and dumb. Okie dokie. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN) All that matters is the party affiliation behind your name. Forget that he was the first surgeon to successfully separate twins joined AT THE HEAD. Nah....he's a R dope. Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2017 03:40 PM (Enq6K) 204
159 >>>>Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia.
The defense rests... . . .Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) Black Privilege.>>> Obama is a Constitutional Scholar. Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (qXFhJ) IIRC, Hank Johnson has a PhD in geological oceanography. Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:40 PM (hA1V+) 205
202 This reporter asking about safe zones seems like one of ours. (Well-spoken, polite, asks an actual question.)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:39 PM (10LGw) ==================== *tries to get out whiskey stain from wife beater* "Wha...?" Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:40 PM (vur0q) 206
I'd go further than that, and agree with Megan McArdle and Instapundit that while the New Mandarins are good at a very limited number of cognitive functions, they are sorely lacking in crucial ones, the ability to reject received wisdom among one of the most important.
There are the truly educated, and there are the pseudo educated. Think STEM vs. (Bogus Propaganda) "Studies". It should also be noted that there are oh so many despicable genuises, Noam Chumpsky coming to mind. And then there are the knowledgeable without common sense. As a high schooler in the 1980's, It shocked me how many followers of the then wacky cult led by the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh were Ph.D.'s and otherwise "educated" people. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2017 03:40 PM (ujg0T) 207
Usually kids in college in engineering/science and other hard degree programs are much more practical. I don't remember on engineering college having protests like the universities. Were there protests at MIT, RPI, RIT? probably they are to busy trying to get through the programs.
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 03:40 PM (ec2s9) 208
Being smart is like being tall, or a fast runner. It is nice, and it makes you useful to other people, but there's nothing inherently good about it, and a lot of it is just luck.
** IDK, being smart is 1. confusing because you wonder why everyone else is wrong all the time 2. wonder why other people keep saying they're smart when they're dumb and do dumb things and have dumb jobs. 3. Kinda feels weird when you meet folks who are actually smarter because they're now squeezing into the small part of the 3rd sigma...wow, I'm kinda dumb. This is probably how a lawyer who does ok feels when he's confronted with idea that he'll never be an appellate judge or Lawrence Tribe. Just saying. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (eClek) 209
Our schools refuse to teach criticle thinking; the ability to connect the dots to events.
I don't think you can teach that. Always looked like a "got it or don't" thing to me. Posted by: ScoggDog at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (FVvBL) 210
164, basically the REAL political divide is between educated vs uneducated WHITE people??
And isn't this just an update of the old high-class "English" Vs. low class "Scotch Irish" that's been dogging this country since Colonial times.... Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (7uYFy) 211
Spicer needs to start fat shaming some of these WH reporters. God, have some Fvcking dignity and lose a few dozen ponds.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (UOJLJ) 212
came to America in 1644 and bought a 50 acre farm in lower Manhattan.
There's no reason to feel bad. They'd have lost it when the British took the place in 1664, anyway. If they sold before that, it's all gravy. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (H5rtT) 213
I remember hearing/reading people say/write, "Well, surgery really isn't as demanding as other medical disciplines."
Next time ask them if their parents had any kids that lived. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (WFe5M) 214
Obama is a Constitutional Scholar.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (qXFhJ) IIRC, Hank Johnson has a PhD in geological oceanography. ******** Obama is an unpublished lecturer. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (eClek) 215
All that matters is the party affiliation behind your name. Forget that he was the first surgeon to successfully separate twins joined AT THE HEAD.
----- Yeah, ONCE. Anyone can get lucky. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (eMrO3) 216
The education system in this country lost its way when it decided that it's goal was not to make people more employable in the private sector after you get your degree.
Education should be a means, but academia treats itself like the end. Posted by: joe, with palpable demonic activity at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (34w2E) 217
I still find it weird how dumb lawyers can be when not lawyering. I know about 5 of them from my kids' school who I am flabbergasted can even walk they are so clueless. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (ODxAs) 218
Hillocracy dies in darkness. That dark black stool you shit out when your scarred cirrhosed liver is hemorrhaging into your bile duct.
I've lived a life that's full of shit I've traveled each and every Hershey highway And more, much more than this I did it my way *sppppppllllttt* Posted by: Hillary the Methane Monster at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (9dw54) 219
Being told in College that I'd had 3 IQ tests in my life, scored well every time, and that if I wanted to join, I qualified for Mensa. That flat out shocked me. I knew I'd taken tests the other kids didn't have to take in elementary and high school, but still. Me?
But, I got all full of myself when I got my degree, worked in the electronics/avionics sector for a few years, moving up the ladders until I found out I hated all these geeky people I was working in the field. Not real exciting folks as a rule. I went back to the basics of fixing broke stuff for a living. I don't regret it one damn bit. And as for Mensa, well they got along without me just fine. Posted by: IP at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (yV4wg) 220
That's another way to describe how I've felt about Obama.
He seems to be naturally intelligent, but he's never developed the skills necessary to challenge his own preconceived notions and he became intellectually incurious. So, he's a wasted intelligence. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (vur0q) Like the "Political Officers" of the old Soviet Union, he is perfectly educated -- in falsehood dogma. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (ujg0T) 221
189. No, he said, 'Blessed are the cheese-makers.' It's a parable. He's referring to all workers in the dairy industry.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (lutOX) 222
Leaving college with a degree in Sociology and 100K student loan debt doesn't sound very smart to me.
Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (HgMAr) 223
77 Never liked the distinctions of Educated Class and Non-Educated Class. Much more applicable terminology is Credentialed versus Non-Credentialed....
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel ---- pro sports are loaded with college graduates. Posted by: Buzzsaw90 THE WORLD IS FLAT!!! Posted by: Tyree Irving, Genius! at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (U/8qY) Posted by: Global Warming at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (TppKb) 225
There was another website I was seeing on the side - very limited readership - IRL co-workers, friends and family that I had to quit. In the run up to the election they had a thread where they were discussing the importance of the better class of people to exercise control over the "under-classes" because, well, we were better. And smarter. And more compassionate.
I argued that all I wanted was to be left alone and that I bet a lot of poorer America wanted the same. They assured me that, no, we needed to rule. Oh, they didn't put it that way but that's what they meant. It was then that I realized that I didn't belong there. The masks had fallen and I wasn't a lizard person. Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (Vzqe+) 226
184 Children of rich people learn the the skill to be rich even if they aren't the snappiest riding crop in the polo stables.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth Also helps to start out with a $5 million trust fund vs a 40 hr work week at minimum wage. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (WFe5M) And a famous family name you can use to market stuff. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:42 PM (0mRoj) 227
Related to the post, has anyone seen that supposedly the White House is looking at Juan McCain as the source of some of the White House leaks?
http://tinyurl.com/hk9pmqw Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefty fascists at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (xujbM) 228
>>>>>>"Look, it's really simple," Carlson says. "The SAT 50 years ago pulled a
lot of smart people out of every little town in America and funneled them into a small number of elite institutions, where they married each other, had kids, and moved to an even smaller number of elite neighborhoods. We created the most effective meritocracy ever." . . .See this statement is part of the friggin problem. They think they have all of the smartest and bestest people there, they do not. The hubris in that single statement is epic. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:13 PM (le7jz) Same. Maybe if these schools were free that would be closer to true, but they aren't. A lot of people choose schools closer to home for cost reasons, or simply because not everybody wants to live on the east coast. Also, there are different kinds of intelligence than 'book smart'. Posted by: Lea at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (lIU4e) 229
This is the essence of Murray's Bell Curve. His premise, as I read it, was that in the 20th century we did such a phenomenal job identifying talent and driving it to where it is most useful (be it sports, academics, etc.) that we skewed our ability to make rational and correct decisions about our civil expenditures. In particular, confronting problems with the appropriate understanding of the underlying issues.
Posted by: ChuckinTX at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (jYjBK) 230
That's oceanographic geology, Peckerwood.
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson (J)enius at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (eMrO3) 231
If anything, Carlson discovered that democrat voters are low empathy voters. The kind of folks who will virtue signal for fake avatars the media puts up (those "migrants" who just want a better life) at expense of real people.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC You're onto something. Expand that further to the folks who vote their own narrow interests at the expense of others. Do you think those people have any empathy for "other than me and mine"? Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (9krrF) 232
It also strikes me that maturity is more important for success than intelligence in most areas.
Posted by: Don at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (xpAyB) Character counts. I have two adopted nephews. The younger one struggled in school but was persistent. I remember once when we were at a cabin in Northern Wisconsin, he made his mind up -at age 10 or so - that he was going to catch a fish that day. He sat on the pier all day and didn't catch. The other kids were playing on the beach having fun and he sat there with a grim, determined look on his face. Finally, when it grew dark out, we had to call him in. I never wanted someone to catch a stinking fish so bad in my life. He has trouble with tests. Nevertheless, he managed to get through a battery of them to become exactly what he wanted to become: an EMS/firefighter. He's doing fine. His older brother is smart, but lazy and entitled. He wants to be a writer, but I doubt he gets much writing done. He dropped out of college, works part time as a custodian and still relies on his parents to help pay his rent and bills. He's friggin' 30 years old. Needless to say, he loves Bernie and told his brother he was "stupid" for supporting Trump. His brother the firefighter has a steady job, a house, a family and pays his own bills - but he's the "dumb one." Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (ZM2xo) 233
Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:36 PM (WFe5M)
Not so much that but that they run in the same circles where money is made and is the focus and have developed the positive habits of rich people. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (VeUrT) 234
No, he said, 'Blessed are the cheese-makers.' It's a parable. He's referring to all workers in the dairy industry.
I thought he was referring to women who didn't douche regularly. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (TppKb) 235
Ben Carson IS stupid! There should be lawsuits brought up by all of patients now! It'll be like Dummy cut me up and I want money now and I want to be sewn back together
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 23, 2017 03:43 PM (rEdl2) 236
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Education should be a means, but academia treats itself like the end. Posted by: joe, with palpable demonic activity at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (34w2E) ==================== Education itself is an end, and a very good end. But indoctrination is their goal now, not education. If education were academia's goal, each and every college student would learn at least one classical language, know the history of Europe and America, and know how to set up a lab properly. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:44 PM (vur0q) 237
You're onto something. Expand that further to the folks who vote their own narrow interests at the expense of others. Do you think those people have any empathy for "other than me and mine"?
*** nah, they just fucking hate you. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:44 PM (eClek) 238
More advantages of dumbness
- cheap entertainment - don't have to worry about money because you're definitely getting ripped off - cookies! Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:44 PM (qU2ch) 239
@211 Spicer needs to start fat shaming some of these WH reporters. God, have some Fvcking dignity and lose a few dozen ponds.
----------------------- He probably finds that the lack of exercise on the part of the reporters is an effective way to limit the length of their questions. It's hard to drone on and on and on when you're short of breath. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 03:45 PM (nsZ+m) 240
Always looked like a "got it or don't" thing to me.
--- Experience can be mistaken for brains. I'm good at debugging code because over 27 years, i'm made nearly every error. Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 23, 2017 03:45 PM (PNcou) 241
I have an ex-wife who exhibits many of the characteristics Carlson describes, and she's as dumb as a box of rock. So it's not entirely elite class based.
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:45 PM (jMn4g) 242
106 I live on the edge, huh?
Posted by: Tami Nah, I thought your dig was funny and wanted to repeat it and riff on it. ********* Paul Krugman hasn't been right about anything in 20 years, maybe forever, but it doesn't slow him down a bit as he keeps opening his mouth and inserting foot regularly. Ben Rhodes gloated about scamming know nothing reporters into carrying his memes on Iran. Johnathan Gruber bragged about lying and fooling the voters about OCare. Their thinking is wrong, and they glorify it. Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 03:45 PM (xpfRn) Posted by: guy who has a man-crush on Spicer at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (8iiMU) 244
My wife and I were talking about this just this morning. We consider intelligence to have a practical application aspect. That is to say, intelligence is the ability to perceive a situation or a problem, accumulate data (from the current situation as well as prior knowledge/facts), sort that data by relevance and validity, then apply that data in a manner drawn from past experience, current input and intuitive thinking to come up with a potential solution. Then, upon applying the solution, there must be a way (and a willingness) to gauge the results in process and adjust the solution based on feedback and analysis.
Not seeing that so much in a lot of our younger colleagues. Then we had coffee and scrambled eggs. Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (wPiJc) 245
I never felt that Obama was naturally intelligent.
He can read a teleprompter, and is superficially charming. However, he is smart enough to know who will help him do well in life, and how to make money without working. Maybe I'd use the word "cunning" to describe him. Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (J5mC3) 246
211 Spicer needs to start fat shaming some of these WH reporters. God, have some Fvcking dignity and lose a few dozen ponds.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (UOJLJ) Thise are protected wetlands. We'll fine you into oblivion for that. Posted by: EPA at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (0mRoj) 247
I have an ex-wife who exhibits many of the characteristics Carlson describes, and she's as dumb as a box of rock. So it's not entirely elite class based.
Which says what about your judgment in the first place? Yeah, I know, glass houses, stones, some assembly required. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (TppKb) 248
Spicer: " This is not a television show. You do not get to shout out questions. we get to raise our hands like big boys and girls. Shannon, you go next."
He said that? I think I may decide to have a crush on him ;^). He's not really good looking, but neither am I and he does have a disarming smile and handles the press well. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (fDdVG) 249
On what other blog does a guy named "Uma Thurmond's Feet" share personal insights based on his relationship with his wife?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 03:47 PM (eMrO3) 250
Thise are protected wetlands. We'll fine you into oblivion for that.
Waters of the United States? Okay, Meriwether Lewis, get in your canoe and map them. Posted by: Scott Pruitt at February 23, 2017 03:47 PM (TppKb) 251
a lot of smart people out of every little town in America and funneled them into a small number of elite institutions, where they married each other, had kids...
Okay all you smart hot ladies, the line forms here! Posted by: Neil deGrassy Tyson at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (hA1V+) 252
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Spicer: " This is not a television show. You do not get to shout out questions. we get to raise our hands like big boys and girls. Shannon, you go next." He said that? I think I may decide to have a crush on him ;^). He's not really good looking, but neither am I and he does have a disarming smile and handles the press well. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 03:46 PM (fDdVG) He DID say that! I typed that quote as he said it, so it is pretty close. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (8iiMU) 253
Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) Not really, she graduated from Los Angeles State College which later on became Cal State Los Angeles Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (lKyWE) 254
Claman interviewing a woman that has donkey reef.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (UOJLJ) 255
OK, time to start looking for new job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (4WhSY) 256
Mom always told me to watch out for "the educated idiots". Mom was a keeper.
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Does truly worthless count? Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:29 PM (0mRoj) I hope you aren't talking about yourself. Imma have to smack you if you are. And then make you tres leches cake. Posted by: moki at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (gfRCk) 258
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The only reason I know squat about him is because he was the brother of Gwenda Stewart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwenda_Hawkes Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:38 PM (TppKb) ----------------------------------- Is he also welated to Gwenda Jackson? Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (Nox3c) 259
On what other blog does a guy named "Uma Thurmond's Feet" share personal insights based on his relationship with his wife?
What are you complaining about? Posted by: Strom Thurmond's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (TppKb) 260
I never felt that Obama was naturally intelligent.
He can read a teleprompter, and is superficially charming. Yeah. Because let the teleprompter shit the bed and he is reduced to ums, ahhs, ands ....... Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (WFe5M) 261
Spicer: " This is not a television show. You do not get to shout out
questions. we get to raise our hands like big boys and girls. Shannon, you go next." --- LOL. How long before time-outs are instituted in press conferences for the unruly? /please tell me that is an option Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (J5mC3) 262
21 These "elites" had kids, true, but not at a sustainable rate; if they had any at all (because Breeding puts such crimps in one's career) they had one, while many had none. So you have, in effect, reverse darwinism: people who were literally the result of thousands of years of selective breeding to improve their intelligence, etc., who selfishly chose not to reproduce because they were too busy being awash in their own awesomeness.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at February 23, 2017 03:11 PM (CcljO) See: Idiocracy. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (zoehZ) 263
The democrats, under Obama, lost a couple thousand seats, including control of House, control of Senate, Presidency, a plethora of governors, etc. That was just from a closet muslin. So go full bore Keith Ellison. That's the ticket. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (ZFUt7) 264
Someone with six degrees in useless bullshit hardly qualifies as 'educated.'
I think the criteria we're looking at here has become over-emphasized and over-valued because of its use as a proxy in hiring. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (oVJmc) 265
This dem strategist on FBN now is dumber than a box of rocks. I know, I know...redundant...but boy howdy. Stooooopid.
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Yeah. Because let the teleprompter shit the bed and he is reduced to ums, ahhs, ands ....... Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (WFe5M) ======================= Thomas Jefferson was a terrible public speaker. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (vur0q) 267
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (8iiMU)
Thanks; That's a great quote. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (fDdVG) 268
Life's hard. Life's harder when you're stupid.
But if you're stupid enough and drunk enough, when Life hits you in the back the head with a claw hammer, you won't even feel it. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (qU2ch) 269
Charles Murray covered this in his book, "Coming Apart."
Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (NOIQH) 270
@242 Paul Krugman hasn't been right about anything in 20 years, maybe forever, but it doesn't slow him down a bit as he keeps opening his mouth and inserting foot regularly.
--------------- I've heard that Krugman's Nobel prize was well-earned. That came from people on the right who are familiar with economics, and the stuff he did that got him the award. I've also heard rumors that he doesn't really write his column in the NYT. According to the rumor, it's his lefty wife who does most of the work on it. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (nsZ+m) 271
Claman interviewing a woman that has donkey reef.
Posted by: Under Fire I'm sure that made sense in your head. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (4YGWz) 272
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194 180 People on the Left are saying point blank that Ben Carson is stupid. Not that his positions are stupid. Not that he thinks wacky things. That he's stupid. Literally dumb.
Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? But hey, he's stupid and dumb. Okie dokie. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN) ===================== I remember hearing/reading people say/write, "Well, surgery really isn't as demanding as other medical disciplines." As though the difference between an internist and a surgeon (if there is a difference) is akin to the difference between say...a Harvard educated know it all who did nothing in the Illinois legislature on his way to the presidency and a country bumpkin who can't tie his shoes. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:37 PM (vur0q) I know a fair number of neurosurgeons personally. "Stupid" is not an adjective I would apply to any of them. There's a whole variety of personality disorders in there to be sure, but "stupid"...No. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (CPk08) 274
I hope you aren't talking about yourself. Imma have to smack you if you are. And then make you tres leches cake.
Posted by: moki at February 23, 2017 03:48 PM (gfRCk) I am. *braces self* *gets a fork* Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (0mRoj) 275
The smart set isn't so much. In fact, they're hardly smart at all. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (v1g1+) 276
226 184 Children of rich people learn the the skill to be rich even if they aren't the snappiest riding crop in the polo stables.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth Not always. There used to be a saying "Shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in 3 generations." One guy would found the family fortune, the next 2 generations would piss it away. The problem used to be worse in England because there was a social stigma attached to business. Some guy would found a business and then ensure that his sons were "gentlemen" who had nothing to do with the business. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (ZM2xo) 277
Thise are protected wetlands. We'll fine you into oblivion for that.
*** right, another avatar that beats real people in emotionally stunted libs Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (eClek) 278
I always believed a major sign of intelligence is knowing what you don't know.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (VeUrT) 279
Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone.
Proving Tucker's tapped into the real lesson of Trump: the super-smart class has no idea what to do with Internet memes and Twitter-style trolling. It james all their circuits and they start yelling for HARCOURT FENTON MUDD. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (KUTP5) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (eMrO3) 281
Laugh all you want ... but I've always thought you can get a pretty good handle on someone's intelligence by how well they play cards.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (FVvBL) 282
On what other blog does a guy named "Uma Thurmond's Feet" share personal insights based on his relationship with his wife?
What are you complaining about? Posted by: Strom Thurmond's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:49 PM (TppKb) ............... Us? We usually complain about the fucking shoes. Posted by: Hillary's feet at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (HgMAr) 283
On what other blog does a guy named "Uma Thurmond's Feet" share personal insights based on his relationship with his wife?
What are you complaining about? Posted by: Strom Thurmond's Feet ******* We've got some deep thoughts on this topic. Posted by: Thurman Munson's feet at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (wPiJc) 284
Any Dem strategist that was working three months ago should have been fired two-and-a-half months ago.
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279 Carlson replied by asking if he could use their pool while they were gone.
Proving Tucker's tapped into the real lesson of Trump: the super-smart class has no idea what to do with Internet memes and Twitter-style trolling. It james all their circuits and they start yelling for HARCOURT FENTON MUDD. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (KUTP5) ======================= So...Star Trek... Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (vur0q) 287
268 Life's hard. Life's harder when you're stupid.
But if you're stupid enough and drunk enough, when Life hits you in the back the head with a claw hammer, you won't even feel it. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (qU2ch) I should've drunk more. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:51 PM (0mRoj) 288
Thomas Jefferson was a terrible public speaker.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Did he bill himself smarter than everyone else in the room? Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (WFe5M) 289
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245 I never felt that Obama was naturally intelligent.
-- I always thought the key to understanding him was that line about how he (at Harvard Law, as a State and US Senator, as the goshdarn POTUS) had never really been challenged and was bored easily. Took it to mean that he was only interested in the external signs of accomplishment, and not in actually accomplishing anything. But I guess there's no relationship to intelligence there, really. Just a question of character. Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (10LGw) 291
I always believed a major sign of intelligence is knowing what you don't know.
All the liberal pundits mocked Rumsfeld's concept of "known unknowns" vs "unknown unknowns". 15 years later it's become standard workplace jargon. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (KUTP5) 292
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Did he bill himself smarter than everyone else in the room? Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (WFe5M) ================= Just saying that poor public speaking skills do not indicate intelligence. Neither does narcissism. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (vur0q) 293
I've heard that Krugman's Nobel prize was well-earned. That came from people on the right who are familiar with economics, and the stuff he did that got him the award.
I've also heard rumors that he doesn't really write his column in the NYT. According to the rumor, it's his lefty wife who does most of the work on it. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (nsZ+m) If that's true, he actually is smart. Fucker found a way to do as little work as possible and keep the wife happy at the same time while rolling a steady paycheck. Posted by: joe, with palpable demonic activity at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (34w2E) 294
I haven't finished my degree, which is a sore point in a way, because my dearly departed dad always hammered you need to get a degree to get somewhere. He was extraordinarily intelligent, designed cooling systems for power plants, could do complicated math in his head and also put a roof on a house, but didn't have the letters after his name so he was doomed to never move up.
My supportive SO offered that education CAN be important, but a large portion of it is that it also proves someone finished a four year project, and there's some truth to that. And then he reminded me of some of the people we know with degrees who are utterly clueless to illustrate how it doesn't necessarily make you a smarter or better person. WRT Mensa, I took one of the online tests years ago, just for shits and giggles and scored pretty well. For about TWO YEARS I would get mail from them trying to get me to come in and take a proctored test; I want to say I even got a phone call or two from them as well. I always wondered why they pushed so hard for new members. Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 23, 2017 03:53 PM (Gim9y) 295
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Claman interviewing a woman that has donkey reef. Posted by: Under Fire I'm sure that made sense in your head. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (4YGWz) "donkey reef" woman is still a One.Even though she is a Democrat. With donkey teef. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 03:53 PM (8iiMU) 296
knowing what you don't know is Wisdom, in d&d.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 03:53 PM (Z7DY1) Posted by: War at February 23, 2017 03:53 PM (EB9VD) 298
Intelligence makes you useful to others. Common sense make you useful to yourself.
Posted by: jwpaine at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (hoJm7) 299
Just think of all the Boomers running things now who didn't have to take ANY math or science to graduate. A lot of schools dropped the general ed requirements in the 70s. Some never did reinstate them.
So, not impressed. Posted by: Jeanne del norte at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (wbkcN) 300
291 I always believed a major sign of intelligence is knowing what you don't know.
All the liberal pundits mocked Rumsfeld's concept of "known unknowns" vs "unknown unknowns". 15 years later it's become standard workplace jargon. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (KUTP5) ===================== It's like Rumsfeld wasn't a knuckle dragging moron. He might have been wrong about a bunch of stuff and not exactly been the greatest asset to the Bush White House, but he was pretty obviously smart. Smarts ain't everything, though. As we've all agreed upon. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (vur0q) 301
It's a shame they scuttled all those donkeys. Still, I guess it makes for good undersea habitat.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (0mRoj) Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (4WhSY) 303
Lack of empathy is a symptom.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (LiqBV) 304
It james all their circuits and they start yelling for HARCOURT FENTON MUDD.
--- After the jamming for a while, they just blank out and utter "Norman, coordinate." Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 23, 2017 03:54 PM (J5mC3) 305
OK, time to start looking for new job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura I'm beginning to think the various "opportunity challenged" members of the Horde need to get together, compare notes, and start up their own enterprise. What that would be I don't know, but I'm sure the various principals could find something that fits their particulars... Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at February 23, 2017 03:55 PM (9krrF) 306
Ben Shapiro wrote an article on this interview today, only taking the view that Carlson is not a real true con and is a Trump cultist. Maybe he's hurt that he is exactly what Carlson seems to be describing.
It makes me wonder about the Atlantic article the other day on the "Reagan Battalion" taking down Milo. The article said it was an anonymous group of 4Conservative Commentators who didn't want people like Milo involved with the term Conservative. So to stop him they used year old footage that had already been viewed over a million times. Then Jake Tapper(who is inexplicably loved by neverTrumpers, despite his wife having been the regional director of PP) sent out a tweet about George Takei saying he had no idea, that he attacked Milo because a "Conservative Friend" had asked him to. Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at February 23, 2017 03:55 PM (0WFtY) 307
Pardon me, would any of you have any Grey Poupon?
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The smart set isn't so much. In fact, they're hardly smart at all. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2017 03:50 PM (v1g1+) But they are set. Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 03:55 PM (7HtZB) 309
my dad the management consultant talks to serious economists from time to time. he agrees Krugman deserved the prize for the research in question. not so much a prize for his columns though.
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I'm beginning to think the various "opportunity challenged" members of the Horde need to get together, compare notes, and start up their own enterprise. What that would be I don't know, but I'm sure the various principals could find something that fits their particulars... Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at February 23, 2017 03:55 PM (9krrF) ===================== Super PAC that targets lazy, worthless state representatives pushing red states conservative. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (vur0q) 311
35 We used to have a saying on the flightline in Uncle Sam's Aero Club. It takes a college education to break it and a high school education to fix it. I gave 20 years of my life as an enlisted man on F-4's and F-16's. With few exceptions, those were the best people I've ever known in my life. Most may not have been able to to calculate Pi to the tenth decimal place but they knew more about living than most of the college educated people I've ever known.
It appears to me that it's the same sort of condescension folks on the left and right coast have toward the hard working people in flyover country. Posted by: Bill R. at February 23, 2017 03:14 PM (jKUeC) I spent 6 years enlisted in the Navy. I was 23 when I got out. We trust and train 18 Year old kids to do things that 4 years of collage/university learning would not prepare them for. And these kids come from every walk of life they are not the elite. Tell me again why a collage education is so important. I would put six years of military experience against 6 years of university any day. Posted by: USNtakim at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (hMqvx) 312
Yard by yard, life is hard. Inch by inch, it's a cinch.
The hurrier I go, the behinder I get. Maybe broccoli doesn't like you either. Posted by: Embroidered Signs of Wisdom at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (HgMAr) 313
>>Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the
world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? Hey, it's not like being a pediatric neurosurgeon is brain surgery! They do the same thing to Clarence Thomas. He's dumb. Harry Reid says Thomas doesn't even write his own opinions, he just says "what he/she said" referring to another justice's opinion. It is ridiculous that they can get away wil dismissing these men as stupid. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (NOIQH) 314
Peasants. We are truly the elite.
Posted by: Charlize Theron's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (EB9VD) Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (z79tQ) 316
The young people tell me that donkey reef has like ten times the THC content of regular reef.
Not something to mess around with. Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (hA1V+) 317
Donkey reefs are threatened by climate change
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Hey, it's not like being a pediatric neurosurgeon is brain surgery! They do the same thing to Clarence Thomas. He's dumb. Harry Reid says Thomas doesn't even write his own opinions, he just says "what he/she said" referring to another justice's opinion. It is ridiculous that they can get away wil dismissing these men as stupid. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (NOIQH) ===================== If Obama had Thomas's back story (grew up in Jim Crow Georgia, worked his way up to law school and into practice, etc.), there would have been no stopping the guy... Oh wait... Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:57 PM (vur0q) 319
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Maxine Waters has a BA from California State University. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 03:32 PM (le7jz) Not really, she graduated from Los Angeles State College which later on became Cal State Los Angeles Err, Cal State LA is in fact a campus in the Cal State system... Posted by: Jeanne del norte at February 23, 2017 03:57 PM (wbkcN) 320
Blessed are the cheese cutters.
Posted by: Pakled at February 23, 2017 03:57 PM (IqV8l) 321
I learned more at university about how to get around the byzantine rules and get the degree than formulas useful in my occupation. There is a great deal of truth in the statement that getting a four year degree proves you can get a four year degree.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2017 03:57 PM (7ZVPa) 322
Sea donkeys need a habitat too!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 03:58 PM (0mRoj) 323
304 It james all their circuits and they start yelling for HARCOURT FENTON MUDD.
--- After the jamming for a while, they just blank out and utter "Norman, coordinate." * * If only they'd be whimpering, "Sterilize . . . sterilize . . ." Posted by: Wolfs Aurelius at February 23, 2017 03:58 PM (EB9VD) 324
Tell me again why a collage education is so important.
Posted by: USNtakim Hey, not everyone can cut up magazines and paste them together artistically. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2017 03:58 PM (4YGWz) 325
Donkey reef is epic Posted by: Stoner in Denver at February 23, 2017 03:58 PM (lKyWE) 326
I check all the dumb boxes
-white -male -Southern -married -trailer park roots Got my bachelors by correspondence and finished a Masters online while working. Never got the college experience with roommates and dorms and stuff. Didn't have the money. Didn't get any smarter. My dumbness is like an old sweater. Just stays with me wherever I go. Comforting really. I think would hate be smart. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:58 PM (qU2ch) 327
Hate to be smart haha dumb
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 03:59 PM (qU2ch) 328
@319 Err, Cal State LA is in fact a campus in the Cal State system...
--------------------- I think the point was that it was LASC when Waters graduated, and later became CSLA. So *technically*, she didn't graduate from a Cal State school. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 03:59 PM (nsZ+m) 329
Ben Shapiro wrote an article on this interview today
Do we need a gofundme to send Ben Fucking Shapiro a box of dicks? There aren't many out there who need them more. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 03:59 PM (TppKb) 330
I'm beginning to think the various "opportunity challenged" members of the Horde need to get together, compare notes, and start up their own enterprise. What that would be I don't know, but I'm sure the various principals could find something that fits their particulars...
I'm currently involved with a small startup business. It's not as easy as it sounds, even when you think you've got a service or product that no one else is addressing. Then there's the initial startup $$$. No small matter. Posted by: Pete Seria at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (lJW6d) 331
Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
Posted by: Muldoon's feet at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (wPiJc) 332
Poppycock.
Utter nonsense. The fundamental assumption here is deeply flawed. Namely: Only smart parents can have smart kids. Genetics doesn't work that way. Oh, sure, it works PARTIALLY that way. You can't deny data, and the data says that the New Mandarins very often do have brighter kids, and very often provide them with the inside track to a bright future - better schools, two parent homes, global vacations... All true. However, in this nation of ours there are over 300 million people. That's a lot of people. We never consider just how large that is, but it's a LOT of people. And we've spent approximately nine zillion King's Ransom's on education, have we not? Why? Specifically because: smarts come from all points of the compass. Two dolts can, and quite often do, breed a high intellect kid. Genes are recessive, sure, but not invisible. In other words: if our education system worked as designed and funded, the Mandarins would be a nuisance and not an entrenched foe. New Geniuses would be found and groomed as a matter of course, while Mandarin Dolt-Kids were largely sidelined. Private schools, which on average are no better funded than public ones (and often much lower) would not have the inside track. The problem, Dear Brutus, is in ourselves. We have allowed out public institutions to become bastions of liberal lunacy, where participation medals and doublethink are the norm. Like the Israelites of old, we BEGGED for Judges. We DEMANDED these Mandarins. We opened the door for them and covered their path in rose petals, all in exchange for some free phones and that "warm fuzzy feeling that we must be nice people for doing this." Margaret Sanger would love Carlson's argument. How Eugenic of him. The solution is out there. Find the bright kids from no matter whence they come, and know that every year they will come from somewhere else. Thus, they will absolutely bring their compassion and grit and good traits and bad traits with them. The people who started this country were poor. They had to mortgage their futures to lenders, just to pay for the trip. The whole thing was a long shot, and not a well oiled plan. Remember that. What next, Malthusian Doomsday Predictions? Posted by: RobM1981 at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (V1z4W) 333
Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the
world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? Hey, it's not like being a pediatric neurosurgeon is brain surgery! They do the same thing to Clarence Thomas. He's dumb. Harry Reid says Thomas doesn't even write his own opinions, he just says "what he/she said" referring to another justice's opinion. It is ridiculous that they can get away wil dismissing these men as stupid. It does highlight the inherent racism still present at the heart of the Democrat party. Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (4WhSY) 334
College didn't make me any smarter.
I learned some useful shit. And some useless shit. But I wasn't any smarter when I left than when I entered. Posted by: ScoggDog at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (FVvBL) 335
Oh, crap. Why did I hit "Post"?
Posted by: Muldoon's feet at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (wPiJc) Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (10LGw) 337
Was raised to value wisdom over "intelligence".
That used to be commonplace, but these days you don't seem to hear much of that kind of talk. A Sunday school thing, I guess. Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (7A6l6) 338
The most ironic part is their complete lack of self awareness. There is no introspection or intellectual examinations. Just accepted "truths" that bind together their reflexive responses. I bet if half of them took a breath and honestly examined some of their responses and policies they would be aghast.
OK. Maybe not. Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (F5sg8) 339
>>>>>Just think of all the Boomers running things now who didn't have to take
ANY math or science to graduate. A lot of schools dropped the general ed requirements in the 70s. Some never did reinstate them. So, not impressed. . . .I graduated public High School in 75 and at least two semesters of Algebra was required to get your diploma. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (le7jz) 340
OT, This Just In.
After you're President, they won't let you drive. My whole schtick on that so far has been the image of Big Don's gold Rolls up on actual cinder blocks, under the Dalai Lama Exit portico behind the White House. Playing to his demographics on both ends. With visquene. But, I've been one-upped. http://tinyurl.com/zapbapk I can't believe it's not gold, and for that money, I'd want the signature on the side. Over/under on some faction trying to bully the auction company into taking it off the block? Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (H5rtT) 341
My father got his GED in the Marines but I consider him one of the smartest men I've ever come across and would say the same even if he wasn't my father.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (VeUrT) 342
If Obama is highly intelligent, where are his original thoughts?
He strikes me more as someone who has been told how smart he is, but who as never actually had to put intellect to work, so he repeats the ideas of others and has no original ones of his own. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (oVJmc) 343
Took it to mean that he was only interested in the external signs of accomplishment, and not in actually accomplishing anything.
+++ Interesting. I took it to mean he was deeply damaged and could find no enjoyment in life. Posted by: Bigbys Photoshop Trump Hands at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (HTifa) 344
Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
Are you trying to empty the comment section? Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (4WhSY) 345
333 It does highlight the inherent racism still present at the heart of the Democrat party.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (4WhSY) ===================== As though it needed more highlighting. Who doesn't look at affirmative action and think, "Wow, people who advocate for that think black people are dumb."? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (vur0q) 346
Donkey reef. Is that the new nightclub on that Chinese island?
Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (HgMAr) 347
I suspect you can learn more about statistics, Western history, and philosophy from a good Pathfinder dungeon master than from half the professors out there.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (Z7DY1) 348
Wait... If you know something that you don't know, then it's not something you didn't know all along.
Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefty fascists at February 23, 2017 04:02 PM (xujbM) 349
Err, Cal State LA is in fact a campus in the Cal State system... Posted by: Jeanne del norte at February 23, 2017 03:57 PM (wbkcN) Err, Los Angeles State College wasn't part of the Cal State system when she went there Posted by: Stoner in Denver at February 23, 2017 04:02 PM (lKyWE) 350
They've called Clarence Thomas "stupid" as well. Because he doesn't ask questions during oral arguments.
But really because like Carson, he's a black conservatives. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (ZM2xo) 351
I noticed a long time ago that Critical Thinking advocates seemed to do very little of it.
Bannon hit on your theme today, saying we're a people with an economy and a culture, not just global cogs. That's why we elected Trump--Darkness Dies in Democracy! Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (EYwhF) 352
Off stoner sock Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (lKyWE) 353
Posted by: Charlize Theron's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (EB9VD)
........... Wait. You have feet? Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (HgMAr) 354
Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
----------- What does that mean? I better say something before everyone thinks I'm stupid. Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (7HtZB) 355
330. We need to set up a Horde consultancy. Ever seen how much knowledge and wisdom we have here? There's a reason we are known to Hordesource difficult and obscure questions. Hell, we reviewed the script of a marionette comedy here last night, and offered a few surprisingly useful suggestions.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (lutOX) 356
I don't exactly see the schism between 'Educated Class and Non-Educated Class'.
I like to think that a MS degree puts me in the 'Educated Class' but I haven't ever wanted Hillary to be POTUS. I see this as a schism between 'the elite, intellectuals and their minions' and everybody else. I see myself in the 'everybody else' category. "Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." -- George Orwell Posted by: undocumented SMOD at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (e8kgV) 357
Hey man! I need to unload this load of donkey steaks, they ain't gonna keep forever!!
Posted by: Donkey reefer truck driver at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (wPiJc) 358
354 Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
----------- What does that mean? I better say something before everyone thinks I'm stupid. Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 04:03 PM (7HtZB) ===================== Doubt, removed. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (vur0q) 359
He decided to hit the "Post"
Because he was smarter than most. Before he was done He soon became glum Because he was fundamentally dumb. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (8iiMU) 360
346 Donkey reef. Is that the new nightclub on that Chinese island?
Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (HgMAr) It's Donkey Leaf. Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (7HtZB) 361
331 Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
Posted by: Muldoon's feet at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (wPiJc) ====== But if you ARE an idiot, you can pound that Post button like a teenage boy watching Porntube. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (qU2ch) 362
In the Philippines the fishermen throw dynamite into the water and the donkeys just float to the surface.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2017 04:04 PM (eMrO3) 363
HA! And the Horde business plan is in the comments.
We set up a company that allows you to send a bag of dicks to someone. Chocolate dicks, wrapped in what looks like condom foil. Not great chocolate, and full of sugar to give them a rush and then crash and make them feel like shit. I think it's a #winning strategy. My list of ppl to send a bag of dicks to is pretty long... Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 23, 2017 04:05 PM (Gim9y) 364
After you're President, they won't let you drive.
What the F? Never mind the damn golf course, if I'm President it'd be Laguna Seca and a McLaren M8D and a few similarly-equipped friends. I'm sure the Secret Service could round up appropriate emergency services. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:05 PM (TppKb) 365
203 People on the Left are saying point blank that Ben
Carson is stupid. Not that his positions are stupid. Not that he thinks wacky things. That he's stupid. Literally dumb. Dr. Ben Carson. One of the foremost pediatric neurosurgeons in the world. Is there any medical field that is more challenging than pediatric neurosurgery? Seriously, is there? But hey, he's stupid and dumb. Okie dokie. -------------- The pianist in my band is a semi-retired pediatric neurosurgeon, and a huge lefty. The couple of times Carson's name has come up, he's been pretty flummoxed. You can tell he WANTS to call Carson dumb, but he actually knows what's involved in that discipline. Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 23, 2017 04:05 PM (zSMr0) 366
btw, Charles Murray warned about the "meritocracy" becoming a clique in The Bell Curve.
I am beginning to think THAT was the nerve he touched, not the raaaaacism. if he had just put out a racist book nobody would have paid attention Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (Z7DY1) 367
>>It does highlight the inherent racism still present at the heart of the Democrat party.
Probably because their colleagues are people like Sheila Jackson-Lee, graduate of Yale and UVA Law school. They just assume Carson and Thomas were beneficiaries of affirmative action, too. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (NOIQH) 368
IDK, being smart is
1. confusing because you wonder why everyone else is wrong all the time 2. wonder why other people keep saying they're smart when they're dumb and do dumb things and have dumb jobs. 3. Kinda feels weird when you meet folks who are actually smarter because they're now squeezing into the small part of the 3rd sigma...wow, I'm kinda dumb. This is probably how a lawyer who does ok feels when he's confronted with idea that he'll never be an appellate judge or Lawrence Tribe. Just saying. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 03:41 PM (eClek) Well, yeah. But smartness is just a physiological fact, like the clock speed on your computer. What you make of it is important. And formal education is simply not that important in and of itself: its what you put into the formal education that determines what you can get from it. Cliche, but true. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (CPk08) 369
The Atlantic banned me sometime back
Posted by: undocumented SMOD at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (e8kgV) 370
355 330. We need to set up a Horde consultancy.
Ah, yes, consulting. The perfect job. We gather up people's opinions within their company, package them up in a neat attractive presentation. Have a dazzling powerpoint along with a 95 page written report and charge them $50K. I'm in! Posted by: Pete Seria at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (lJW6d) 371
Only I know what a real conservative is!
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (FqgrG) 372
Ha! I thought that was your joke... Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (10LGw) ==== Naw man. My dumbness is real. And it's spectacular. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (qU2ch) Posted by: Donkey Odie at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (wPiJc) 374
Not great chocolate, and full of sugar to give them a rush and then crash and make them feel like shit.
+++ FeenaDicks Posted by: Bigbys Photoshop Trump Hands at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (HTifa) 375
Smoke Donovan's Reefer and get Donovan's Brain.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (IqV8l) 376
After you're President, they won't let you drive.
One reason I kind of like Slow Joe was his appearance about a year ago on Jay Leno's Garage where he lamented that the Secret Service wouldn't let him drive his gorgeous mint '67 Vette, at least on normal streets (they did on a closed track for the show). Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (KUTP5) 377
>>>>>Ah, yes, consulting. The perfect job. We gather up people's opinions
within their company, package them up in a neat attractive presentation. Have a dazzling powerpoint along with a 95 page written report and charge them $50K. I'm in! . . .Me too, I got to be an ace at making power point presentations in the Navy. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (le7jz) 378
367 Probably because their colleagues are people like Sheila Jackson-Lee, graduate of Yale and UVA Law school.
They just assume Carson and Thomas were beneficiaries of affirmative action, too. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 04:06 PM (NOIQH) ================= Thomas actually was. He got into law school under an affirmative action program (whether he would have gotten in without it is a counter-factual that I have no ability to answer). I think it's one of the reasons the left hates him so much. Combined with his opposition to affirmative action in general, they see him as climbing the ladder and then kicking it down so no one else can use it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (vur0q) 379
JEF and Chelsea Hubbell are very similar in that they have the credentials of an intelligent person, but with even a passing glance, you can tell it's all farce.
See that unlikeable grifter in training doing a book report about Fahrenheit 451 today in one of the New York rags: people who are actually well read are laughing, people who love science sexually are all aflutter. Posted by: Chupacabra at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (o/Ar3) 380
"Those who have the most ego invested in the skill of repeating what Teacher has told them are naturally going to be very averse to suggesting the heresy that Teacher might be wrong." ace
yeah, they have adequate IQ to be faithful servant drones in their corrupt commie enclaves, where mob bosses rule with an iron fist. Learning all the PC think is easy enough, there are 100 TV shows to reinforce it on a nightly basis, and PBS quietly indoctrinates while assuring the listeners that they are informed and wise, not like those deplorables. Tucker has it wrong ... they are not the educated, they are the isolated collective. They took the blue pill. Are most productive research scientists mostly leftists? Maybe academia has taken so much control that even they had to submit, but business and science used to be more conservative. Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (YMJtx) 381
They just assume Carson and Thomas were beneficiaries of affirmative action, too. Posted by: Lizzy But not Colin Powell. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:08 PM (IqV8l) 382
Yeah, but Maxine Waters is smart!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:09 PM (oVJmc) 383
Most students and regular people can't understand how we put men on the moon without the computers we now have. What's a slide rule?? Thousands of punch cards just to run a simple math program? How stone age.
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:09 PM (ec2s9) 384
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Smoke Donovan's Reefer and get Donovan's Brain. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM -------------- You cooked her nines!! Posted by: Dr. Hfuhruhurr at February 23, 2017 04:09 PM (pMGkg) 385
Bring out yer dead!
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 04:10 PM (gbWkA) 386
331 Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
Posted by: Muldoon's feet at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (wPiJc) I missed that bus a while ago.... Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 04:11 PM (CPk08) 387
I graduated public High School in 75 and at least two semesters of Algebra was required to get your diploma.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (le7jz) 1984 for me. Algebra was 9th grade, Geometry was 10th grade. And you had to have Biology, Chemistry, and Physics. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:11 PM (hLRSq) 388
Yeah, but Maxine Waters is smart!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:09 PM (oVJmc) Ah, the smartest women in the world, wasn't Obama considered one of the smartest men alive..... Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:11 PM (ec2s9) 389
Pikers. All of them!
Posted by: Maxwell Smart at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (wPiJc) 390
Maxine Waters' wig and Sheila Jackson-Lee's wig should have a duel.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (97XyN) 391
When I read the comments below the article on The Atlantic site, they come out in a toney New England accent from a liberal Hahvahd lawyer at "the club" with is bottom jaw jutting forward. "Buffy, DO call the triple A. I'm afraid I've had a flat on the turnpike and I've made a mess of it>"
Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (OZmbA) 392
Thurman Munson--great ballplayer, lousy pilot.
Posted by: Crusader at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (ewSN2) 393
@345 Who doesn't look at affirmative action and think, "Wow, people who advocate for that think black people are dumb."?
----------------- That's why they came up with the Privilege argument. If you point out that affirmative action effectively means you think that members of XXXXX group are inherently unable to compete against other groups, then they'll start blaming it all on White Privilege. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (nsZ+m) 394
387
1984 for me. Algebra was 9th grade, Geometry was 10th grade. And you had to have Biology, Chemistry, and Physics. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:11 PM (hLRSq) ================= 2003...am I the baby? I don't know what was the minimum requirement, but I had two years of calculus, 3 years of biology, 2 years of chemistry, 2 years of algebra, 5 years of French... I was an IB student. It felt normal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (vur0q) 395
Ah, the smartest women in the world, wasn't Obama considered one of the smartest men alive..... Posted by: Colin His IQ was immeasurably high according to some TV squawking heads. His brain was so accelerated that his mouth could not keep pace. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:13 PM (IqV8l) 396
Here's a GIF of the we're going to raise our hands clip.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/834862661007507456 Sorry, I can't find a non-twitter source or yank out the gif. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go brown out everything east of the Mississippi. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 04:13 PM (mf5HN) 397
Better to not hit "Post" and have people think you an idiot than to hit "Post" and remove all doubt.
Posted by: Muldoon's feet at February 23, 2017 04:00 PM (wPiJc) I missed that bus a while ago.... Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In There was a bus? Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:13 PM (WFe5M) 398
Tucker misses one major point in this whole rant...
There are a whole bunch of very Intelligent UNDEDUCATED people out there. Education now has nothing to do with Intelligence... it has to do with being credentialed. Some of the most 'educated' people I know, are very dysfunctional, sometimes because the education they received contradicts objective reality. Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 04:13 PM (qf6WZ) 399
Maxine Waters' wig and Sheila Jackson-Lee's wig should have a duel.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (97XyN) .............. I'll be Maxine's second. Posted by: Don Lemon's Brillo skullcap at February 23, 2017 04:14 PM (HgMAr) 400
One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like, you know, uh, with fractions - what are you going to land on - one-quarter, three-eighths? What are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or something? That's dialectic physics.
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 04:14 PM (gbWkA) 401
GCSE required maths, and maths included algebra and basic calculus. 16. at 18 you took A level. if your A level was maths, that was vectors, statistics, differential equations, basically AP credit stuff.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 04:14 PM (Z7DY1) 402
Pardon me, would any of you have any Grey Poupon?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 23, 2017 03:55 PM But of course. A buddy of mine has a vintage Bentley. He keeps a tiny jar of Grey Poupon in the glove box just waiting for some smart ass to use that line at a red light. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2017 04:14 PM (p+Wdc) 403
[1]1984 for me. Algebra was 9th grade, Geometry was 10th grade. And you had to have Biology, Chemistry, and Physics.[/1]
I graduated '91. All of those plus Calculus. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 04:14 PM (KUTP5) 404
That's why they came up with the Privilege argument. If you point out that affirmative action effectively means you think that members of XXXXX group are inherently unable to compete against other groups, then they'll start blaming it all on White Privilege.
Kind of hard to explain Asians, then. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:15 PM (oVJmc) 405
404 That's why they came up with the Privilege argument. If you point out that affirmative action effectively means you think that members of XXXXX group are inherently unable to compete against other groups, then they'll start blaming it all on White Privilege.
Kind of hard to explain Asians, then. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:15 PM (oVJmc) ======================== Or Indians. Or first and second generation Africans. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:15 PM (vur0q) 406
Fractions and the slide rule got us to the moon in '69. Bloody Wogs.
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (gbWkA) 407
Re: credentialed/connected.
The colleges have sold their $100k-$200k-$300k degrees, "credentials", based on that in getting them you will also get the "connections" you'll need to make that credential really pay off. This however is mostly backwards. The connections are more important. Think of these college students as aspiring actresses who believe that doing some local theater then going to Hollywood and sitting at the counter of Swabs drugstore will get them that great role and stardom when the roles usually go to someone who has an industry connected parent or who is the buxom blonde some assistant producer wants to screw. The college activist faculty use this desire for connections to get the students to work for the progressive cause thinking that they, the students, will get that face-time with a big political type that will lead to greater things. Clinton with Sen. Fulbright. Tommy Vietor with Obama. 99.9% will just get a huge debt which they can only pay off by working at a NGO or a government union job for 10 years, feeding dues and footwork to the Party, so they can get the debt expunged. Posted by: geoffb5 at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (d3wbb) 408
I saw Donkey Reef open for Maxine Waters Wig back in the 90s.
Posted by: Crusader at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (ewSN2) 409
The French Revolution didn't chop enough heads and the Chinese Revolution chopped too many.
Point: History shows that every so often, the elites need reminding that they are mortal men--sometimes it goes too far, sometimes not far enough. I feel no sympathy either way as the commoners are always cannon fodder before the elites get their turn. America, as envisioned, was to avoid this by giving us all a fair shot at our turn to run things ourselves. Posted by: RoyalOil at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (AmMfi) 410
His IQ was immeasurably high according to some TV squawking heads. His brain was so accelerated that his mouth could not keep pace.
****** His IQ is on the far side of the Mobius strip. Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (wPiJc) 411
an addendum: Trump won the white college educated by 4%
and some college or less white vote by 29% So overall among college-educated it was basically EVEN. It is the enclaves like NY and CA and Chicago where PC is a driving force because elected officials are Democrats with power, and a will to use it to RULE. NY and DC and democrat run cocktail parties because Dems act like mob bosses. It is NOT educated in city versus dumb hicks in the rural areas. (though sure some differences show up there) Big City minorities elect Democrat demagogues, and those collect around Tucker's house and work government jobs. Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (YMJtx) 412
9 Some of the least intelligent people I have encountered have advanced degrees. I'm always flabbergasted that they made it into college - let alone through college.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 23, 2017 03:09 PM (43OZ6) Agreed. When Heidi and i were business consultant/coaches we sometimes followed on the heals (or lost a contract to) college business professors and their students who as an 'assignment' would review the business and make suggestions. it was funny and sad if the business followed their advice because it would accomplish nothing except they'd have a cool looking report that the professor arrogantly presented as fact. Heres the thing. The professor never worked in a business let alone run one. When we would sit down with the prof. we were not only amazed at how little real life knowledge/experience they had but how pompously expounded on their business acumen. Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (BB1en) 413
My husband is an executive. We lived in Austin for nearly 10 years amongst the fellow "well educated."
It was hell. Now we live in an itty bitty town. One neighbor is a glass installer and the other a retired military guy. Things are so much better in our town of trumpkins. And the thing that makes me laugh is that liberals don't even know what they don't know. There's a sweet young man who works at the local gas station. He's flamboyantly gay. Calls me darling every time I go in. And he listens to Christian contemporary and always tells me to have a blessed day. Because rural people are not at all who the media portrays them to be. Posted by: Lauren at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (L4T7Y) 414
353 Posted by: Charlize Theron's Feet at February 23, 2017 03:56 PM (EB9VD)
........... Wait. You have feet? * * Dynamite ones, boyo. You could drive a Ferrari under my arch. Posted by: Charlize Theron at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (EB9VD) Posted by: Yo! at February 23, 2017 04:17 PM (GwIKd) 416
Trump won the white college educated by 4%
and some college or less white vote by 29% *** Right. Donks get their votes from the dumbs. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:17 PM (eClek) 417
2003...am I the baby?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (vur0q) Quite likely; this places teems with geezerhood. I took the bare minimum of the math and sciences because it was harder for me than English and history/government. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (hLRSq) 418
Kind of hard to explain Asians, then.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:15 PM (oVJmc) Or Jews. The privilege argument explains diddly squat in academics. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (CPk08) 419
413
Because rural people are not at all who the media portrays them to be. Posted by: Lauren at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (L4T7Y) AMEN. Grew up in a town of about 2,500 in upstate NY (north of Albany). Primarily an agricultural area. Great people. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (jxbfJ) Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (qU2ch) Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (xpfRn) 422
the right education is definately an assist to success. as is hard work, or a determined person.
Many ways to be a success, To assume the wealthy educated that send their children to the best schools creates the smartest adults is silly unless their subject matter is useful in that period of time. I find having hung around some wealthy people, They help their own. get the right friends, the right education,grease the palms, everything to create and environment for success, and some of those children do succeed . and that's ok. What do the elites believe their role is ? to Rule? if this is their thinking they provide Public school systems with shoddy material? envirnmenmts detrimental to actual learning, lack of safety in schools in urban environments see this is where it blows up for me. They are not trying to do 'well' with their fringe benefits and hand ups from their fellows. They create a system where it is harder for others to get up regulations, laws, they keep control over the rising . Posted by: willow at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (R7cwD) 423
The colleges have sold their $100k-$200k-$300k degrees, "credentials", based on that in getting them you will also get the "connections" you'll need to make that credential really pay off. This however is mostly backwards. The connections are more important.
*** another sacrifice to an avatar. get your kids $200K in debt and then virtue signal their jobs away so that h1b and affirmative action hires get hired instead of them. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (eClek) 424
There's a story at Breitbart covering another "Jackie." She claimed two football players raped her at a party, and is now admitting that the sex was consensual and cried rape to make another guy she was interested in sympathetic to her.
The university of course already had kicked the players off the team, stripped them of their scholarships, and kicked them out of school. Here's hoping they sue the girl and the school. Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (z/Ubi) 425
Who doesn't look at affirmative action and think, "Wow, people who advocate for that think black people are dumb."?
Exactly, that's the clear argument. You can almost make a case for it in a culture that is clearly anti-Black and institutionally was keeping people back. But today? It doesn't wash. However... That's why they came up with the Privilege argument. Exactly. Since they cannot plausibly argue that culture is keeping blacks back, they are trying to shift the argument to "whites are privileged" so the discrepency still is there, somehow. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:19 PM (39g3+) 426
>>Because rural people are not at all who the media portrays them to be.
Posted by: Lauren ^This^ There are probably more Hip Hop loving white boys in Meridian Mississippi than in all of San Francisco. Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2017 04:19 PM (OZmbA) 427
@404 Kind of hard to explain Asians, then.
------------------ I've heard vague rumblings directed at Asians along the lines of accusations of trying to be white. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:19 PM (nsZ+m) 428
so anyway my point is, I can be as much as an ass with my thoughts of them as they are to me.
Posted by: willow at February 23, 2017 04:20 PM (R7cwD) 429
That's why they came up with the Privilege argument. If you point out that affirmative action effectively means you think that members of XXXXX group are inherently unable to compete against other groups, then they'll start blaming it all on White Privilege.
Kind of hard to explain Asians, then. *** better at cheating. better paper trail to get into college. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:20 PM (eClek) 430
Quite likely; this places teems with geezerhood. I took the bare minimum of the math and sciences because it was harder for me than English and history/government.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (hLRSq) '98 here. There was an 'advanced' program that you could get into, but if you got into it based on your English and science scores, you also got automatically slotted into the same track for math. I have no earthly idea how I graduated. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:20 PM (8nWyX) 431
I saw Donkey Reef open for Maxine Waters Wig back in the 90s.
Posted by: Crusader at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (ewSN2) ............ I saw Maxine Waters open for the Donkey in TJ back in the 80s. At least it sure looked like her. Posted by: wth at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (HgMAr) 432
I don't know what was the minimum requirement, but I
had two years of calculus, 3 years of biology, 2 years of chemistry, 2 years of algebra, 5 years of French... I was an IB student. It felt normal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (vur0q) Hmmm...for me... Algebra, Geometry, Algebra II/Trig, then CalculusBiology, Chemistry, PhysicsSpanish (3yrs), LatinEnglish (4yrs), History, GubmintThen the 'religious' courses (Catholic school):Biblical Literature, Psychology, something I forgot, Sex Marriage/FaithMorals My blowoff high school course: Music Appreciation. Which cost me 4th position in the class, LOL. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (8iiMU) 433
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Exactly. Since they cannot plausibly argue that culture is keeping blacks back, they are trying to shift the argument to "whites are privileged" so the discrepency still is there, somehow. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:19 PM (39g3+) ==================== That's one point where I think the left and right really just talk past each other. When we say "culture", we really mean culture, but the left sees that as just another way to say "race". It's really a failing on the left to willfully misunderstand what we're saying, but I think it's a useful piece of information should anyone actually get into an argument about culture with a leftist at some point. You should take a few minutes to step back and actually assign definitions. If you can't get past that, then you might as well not even get into dicier stuff. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (vur0q) 434
Think I'll make a tomato sammich.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (Sfs6o) 435
What do the elites believe their role is ? to Rule?
Almost every academic thinks they are philosopher kings. They fap to Socrates every night. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (39g3+) Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:22 PM (TppKb) 437
She claimed two football players raped her at a party, and is now admitting that the sex was consensual and cried rape to make another guy she was interested in sympathetic to her.
These girls *really* don't understand straight men. "I just got drilled out by two football players, please be sloppy thirds" is not something most guys will respond well to. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 04:22 PM (KUTP5) 438
O.K. Here's another expression I never know until I arrived here. "Go eat a BOD" What is the origin of that expression?. Is it from a movie or show?.
BTW, I believe someone has already started a company where you send rude or gross things made out of chocolate, so it was a good idea, atomicplaygri but someone beat you too it. :^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 04:22 PM (fDdVG) 439
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'98 here. There was an 'advanced' program that you could get into, but if you got into it based on your English and science scores, you also got automatically slotted into the same track for math. I have no earthly idea how I graduated. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:20 PM (8nWyX) ==================== Almost my age! I'll have to remember that... Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:22 PM (vur0q) 440
Posted by: Lauren at February 23, 2017 04:16 PM (L4T7Y)
Yeah, the pub I frequent will have at the rail retired laborer, car salesman, car parts guy, lawyer (me), house painter, county medical examiner, and so on. A real mix. Everyone gets along. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:22 PM (hLRSq) 441
432 Hmmm...for me...
Algebra, Geometry, Algebra II/Trig, then CalculusBiology, Chemistry, PhysicsSpanish (3yrs), LatinEnglish (4yrs), History, GubmintThen the 'religious' courses (Catholic school):Biblical Literature, Psychology, something I forgot, Sex Marriage/FaithMorals My blowoff high school course: Music Appreciation. Which cost me 4th position in the class, LOL. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:21 PM (8iiMU) ====================== I was in a big class of a few hundred, never really applied myself while taking hard classes, and ended up at about 30. What year did you graduate? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (vur0q) 442
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I graduated public High School in 75 and at least two semesters of Algebra was required to get your diploma. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 04:01 PM (le7jz) 1984 for me. Algebra was 9th grade, Geometry was 10th grade. And you had to have Biology, Chemistry, and Physics. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:11 PM (hLRSq) Same here. 1984.10th Grade Geometry sucked. Teacher was a big fan of Beerios for breakfast -whole classroom reaked.11th Grade mass was even better. Teacher would fake a coughing fit, excuse herself, grab her purse and make a beeline for the teachers lounge to throw back some from her flask. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (jxbfJ) 443
Just saying that poor public speaking skills do not indicate intelligence. Neither does narcissism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 03:52 PM (vur0q) Poor speaking skills or an absolute lack of something substantial to say? Thomas Jefferson left a corpus of texts proving that he was indeed quite intelligent. Obama hasn't left anything behind demonstrating his alleged intelligence. Obama off the teleprompter was painful, not just because of his awful speaking, but his genuine stupidity. Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (7N6ox) 444
Almost every academic thinks they are philosopher kings. They fap to Socrates every night.
Is THAT their favorite cam-girl's pseudonym? Hopefully they tip well... Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (TppKb) 445
438 O.K. Here's another expression I never know until I arrived here. "Go eat a BOD" What is the origin of that expression?. Is it from a movie or show?.
--------------- They said it on Archer a lot, but I don't know if that's the origin. Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 23, 2017 04:24 PM (zSMr0) 446
glib ≠ smart
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2017 04:24 PM (wPiJc) 447
"It is NOT educated in city versus dumb hicks in the rural areas. (though sure some differences show up there)"
Yep. Fits with my point about The Borg above. Tucker's point fits DC much better than it does Dallas. Most of the people in the heart of The Borg only interact with their Similars, hence the growing lack of empathy. e.g., they work t the Dept of Education, but never teach a student. Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2017 04:24 PM (SIY7D) 448
443 Poor speaking skills or an absolute lack of something substantial to say? Thomas Jefferson left a corpus of texts proving that he was indeed quite intelligent. Obama hasn't left anything behind demonstrating his alleged intelligence. Obama off the teleprompter was painful, not just because of his awful speaking, but his genuine stupidity.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (7N6ox) ====================== You're taking my narrow point (poor public speaking skill don't indicate poor intelligence) and going in very different directions. If you want to compare Jefferson's Notes on Virginia with Dreams from My Father to show that Obama was less intelligent than Jefferson, than I don't think anyone would argue with you. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (vur0q) 449
I've heard vague rumblings directed at Asians along the lines of accusations of trying to be white.
So? Then the solution is TRY TO BE WHITE. Apparently that admits the problem IS behavior. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (oVJmc) 450
Chelsea Clinton went to the "best" schools, including Columbia. As the president's daughter, she traveled places and had experiences you expect would broaden a person's horizon's tremendously, including being shot at by a sniper.
She's dumb as a brick and wasn't able to even carry off that commentator job that was handed to her nicely gift-wrapped. Because she's not only dumb, she has the charisma of a dishrag. Same goes for Caroline Kennedy. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (ZM2xo) 451
I don't like using the term "meritocratic" with these people.
They have very little merit. Their horror with Trump is actually fear that the rest of society will discover the elites have been using a force of governments to redistribute undeserved wealth and power from normal people to themselves. Posted by: Beaches at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (wKhdx) Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (VeUrT) 453
She claimed two football players raped her at a party, and is now admitting that the sex was consensual and cried rape to make another guy she was interested in sympathetic to her.
These girls *really* don't understand straight men. "I just got drilled out by two football players, please be sloppy thirds" is not something most guys will respond well to. White knight/Omegas do. Think Raj or Sheldon Cooper just getting the chance to sniff a girls panties. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (WFe5M) 454
449 I've heard vague rumblings directed at Asians along the lines of accusations of trying to be white.
So? Then the solution is TRY TO BE WHITE. Apparently that admits the problem IS behavior. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (oVJmc) ==================== What is the insult? Coconut? Brown on the outside, white on the inside? Like Oreo? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (vur0q) 455
Thurman Munson--great ballplayer, lousy pilot.
Yeah, he was my favorite Yankee. We hang out together now. Posted by: John F. Kennedy Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:26 PM (qJhUV) 456
They said it on Archer a lot, but I don't know if that's the origin.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 23, 2017 04:24 PM (zSMr0) I've heard it at least twenty years ago, and I assume it's older than that. In the Navy, we had a few refinements like "go climb a wall of dicks in hell", but we were also dedicated masters of our craft. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:26 PM (8nWyX) 457
"Some of the most 'educated' people I know, are very dysfunctional,
sometimes because the education they received contradicts objective reality." Ha! Champagne-socialist lefty Barbara Ehrenreich sent a daughter to Yale, and even she felt some quivers of apprehension over what she described as shelling out sixty thousand dollars per year in tuition and fees, for her precious girl to take classes in which "reality" was frequently referred to in quotation marks and with acidic contempt. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 04:26 PM (noWW6) 458
Because rural people are not at all who the media portrays them to be.
And neither are urban people. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:26 PM (39g3+) 459
So do I have this right? Tucker comes across as a self-proclaimed ubermensch who just happens to have taken up the fallen standard of the rubes and happily jousting with his fellow elites on 'our' behalf?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2017 04:27 PM (wPiJc) 460
Grew up in a town of about 2,500 in upstate NY (north of Albany). Primarily an agricultural area. Great people. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (jxbfJ) Mind me asking where? I grew up in Clifton Park back when it was all farm country. You're right - it was great back in the 70's. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 23, 2017 04:27 PM (kUmUV) 461
Friend who is proud Harvard grad thought hot water was slow to upstairs bathroom sink. Turned out hot water was turned off under sink. Plumber laughed & shook his head.
Posted by: Clueless Observer at February 23, 2017 04:27 PM (bc2Lc) 462
These girls *really* don't understand straight men. "I just got drilled out by two football players, please be sloppy thirds" is not something most guys will respond well to.
Well, I mean, that depends. If all you're looking for is the 98.6 degree equivalent of a plastic toy (and I guess there's a use for that sort of thing) then you're on. https://youtu.be/2NEhksXuUQg (one of my top-ten songs EVAH!) Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:27 PM (TppKb) 463
@433 When we say "culture", we really mean culture, but the left sees that as just another way to say "race". It's really a failing on the left to willfully misunderstand what we're saying, but I think it's a useful piece of information should anyone actually get into an argument about culture with a leftist at some point.
------------------ When I was a freshman in high school, one of my classes had what I think was an exchange student from one of the Scandinavian countries. Absolutely gorgeous blonde, with strong suggestions of a dirty mind. No, I never dated her. So don't bother asking. I can't remember why, but one day she came up in conversation with a friend of mine. He mentioned that he'd heard she was black. That made no sense to me, because she was clearly white, and I stated as much. But over the years I've come to realize that he was referring to culture - i.e. how she acted - as opposed to actual racial genetics. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (nsZ+m) 464
419 Grew up in a town of about 2,500 in upstate NY (north of Albany). Primarily an agricultural area. Great people.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (jxbfJ) ==================== Do you happen to know the Van Burens? I hear one of them is on to great things! Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (vur0q) 465
Same here. 1984.10th Grade Geometry sucked. Teacher was a big fan of Beerios for breakfast -whole classroom reaked.11th Grade mass was even better. Teacher would fake a coughing fit, excuse herself, grab her purse and make a beeline for the teachers lounge to throw back some from her flask.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (jxbfJ) 1981. Small public Highschool: Gr12. 75 kids total. Had a good time. Don't remember much of it, except the girl 10 lockers down from me and stuff like that. That plus the guidance counselor who gave everyone the creeps later got jailed for pedophilia. ooooookie Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (CPk08) Posted by: Caroline Kennedy, Former Ambassador to Japan at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (97XyN) 467
"If you want to compare Jefferson's Notes on Virginia with Dreams from My Father to show that Obama was less intelligent than Jefferson, than I don't think anyone would argue with you."
I resent the comparison, thank you very much. Posted by: Bill Ayers at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (SIY7D) 468
467 "If you want to compare Jefferson's Notes on Virginia with Dreams from My Father to show that Obama was less intelligent than Jefferson, than I don't think anyone would argue with you."
I resent the comparison, thank you very much. Posted by: Bill Ayers at February 23, 2017 04:28 PM (SIY7D) ==================== IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!! Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at February 23, 2017 04:29 PM (vur0q) 469
424 There's a story at Breitbart covering another "Jackie." She claimed two football players raped her at a party, and is now admitting that the sex was consensual and cried rape to make another guy she was interested in sympathetic to her. "
I cannot friggin' even imagine purposely ruining the lives of 2 other human beings just to make some guy like me. And why would she think that would do the trick? A rape story inspires pity, not lust. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:29 PM (ZM2xo) 470
The odd thing about the Liberal Dims vs the other political groups is that for them it's really not about being smart, gifted, or anything positive--it's about being "loyal", power hungry, and willing to do the dirtiest things to get another rung up the ladder. Oh, they like it when they get a BJ Clinton Rhodes Scholar type, but, the true essence of their political party is the dumb as rocks congress critters who play not just dirty, but, filthy. They feel this way for one simple reason: MONEY and POWER.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 23, 2017 04:30 PM (kXoT0) 471
@449
So? Then the solution is TRY TO BE WHITE. Apparently that admits the problem IS behavior. ---------------------- You've heard about what happens to blacks who get accused of "acting White", haven't you? To The Left, treason is a minor crime in comparison. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:30 PM (nsZ+m) 472
469 I cannot friggin' even imagine purposely ruining the lives of 2 other human beings just to make some guy like me.
And why would she think that would do the trick? A rape story inspires pity, not lust. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:29 PM (ZM2xo) ====================== "Don't judge." -Bill Clinton Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:30 PM (vur0q) 473
>>IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!!
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger Can somebody explain the Roethlisberger meme to me? Preferably in all caps. Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2017 04:31 PM (OZmbA) Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:31 PM (TppKb) 475
"Chelsea Clinton went to the 'best' schools, including Columbia."
Out here in the Scum Scamfrisco Bay Area, we had an absolutely enormous press contingent descend upon Stanford's campus for the epochal, sweeping, nationally and historically significant event which was having the Crown Princess receive her B.A. degree. As she walked across the stage, a thousand reporters whispered into their mikes, in hushed tones of respect, about how Chelsea "had once spoken of" wanting to become a pediatric cardiologist. Other than, y'know, all of those annoyingly difficult and mandatory classes in subjects like organic chemistry, which seem to have rapidly put her off of that particular dream. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 04:31 PM (noWW6) 476
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:25 PM (vur0q)
I may have shown a lack of critical thinking. Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 23, 2017 04:31 PM (7N6ox) 477
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:07 PM (vur0q)
I don't believe that to be accurate. Thomas went to a prestigious private Catholic High School partially because of AA but not college. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (VeUrT) 478
Apropos of the post below, a member of Obama's National Security Council who stayed on for the Trump admin writes about why she left after 8 days.
She got a job with the WH straight out of college and within 8 years was working on the National Security Council. Alrighty! https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/ rumana-ahmed-trump/517521/?utm_source=twb Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (NOIQH) 479
Lived in a snooty area for years and I survived by cultivating the 'artistic' schtick -- look blank when someone was talking about 'the club' and then go on enthusiastically about an art show or concert.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (MIKMs) 480
I hope Sean Spicer brings a dunce hat to pass out to those who earn them tomorrow. They can wear it until the next stupid question is asked.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (cWhln) 481
Donkey Reef wasn't his best album, but it wasn't his worst either.
Of course, it's not as good as his albums from the 70's like A1A. And it's not even as good as some of his 80's stuff like Coconut Telegraph. But it has a couple of good cuts. I liked "A Shot of Tequila for My Donkey Please." Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (hA1V+) 482
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!!
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!! Posted by: Amy Schumer Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (WFe5M) 483
I coulda beena contendah.
Posted by: Amy Carter at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (97XyN) 484
482 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!!
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!! Posted by: Amy Schumer Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (WFe5M) ===================== "So brave. So funny." -The Left Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:33 PM (vur0q) 485
Can somebody explain the Roethlisberger meme to me? Preferably in all caps.
So there's... SO THERE'S THIS SITE CALLED PROFOOTBALLMOCK DOT COM THAT USED TO HAVE WEEKLY PRETEND FACEBOOK CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NFL QBS AND EACH ONE HAD ONE MAJOR CHARACTER TRAIT. BEN'S WAS THAT HE'S AS DUMB AS HE LOOKS. Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2017 04:33 PM (KUTP5) 486
I cannot friggin' even imagine purposely ruining the lives of 2 other human beings just to make some guy like me.
And why would she think that would do the trick? A rape story inspires pity, not lust. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:29 PM (ZM2xo) Those two guys? Those were who she wanted to bang. That other guy? That's who she wanted to date. It appears from the story that everyone saw her head into the bathroom to do the deed so she had to come up with some story in which she was still The Good Girl and that's what she went with. I doubt very much it was a calculated decision to ruin those two guys' lives so much as a sociopathic lack of care that she would. At least the cops are charging her, it's about time this stuff is taken seriously. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (mf5HN) 487
Loss of empathy, etc., OK, sure. And that's important.
But mostly the "elites" simply, generally, aren't. Not any more. They're also not well educated, whatever their credentials. OK they're super-dooper in microbiology, or some narrow technical aspect of copyright law. Such people, today, have a 50/50 chance, or higher, of being complete idiots as citizens, of the country, or the world. Don't understand the US constitution, American history, world history, current world dynamics, basic economics, anything fundamental to making them, in a practical sense, intelligent. Even worse, they usually have a fully constructed, elaborate make-believe world in their heads, courtesy of The Marinade (NPR, AP, BBC, pop culture, the GOP, etc.). Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (QDnY+) 488
"I don't like using the term "meritocratic" with these people. They have very little merit.
yeah, the public unions count merit as showing up for work mostly on time, even if they suck at their job. A teacher gets extra pay for sitting through useless hours of class to get their Masters+30, but Johnny still can't read. Then they retire early and mock the "deplorables" that run their own business, and fix things around their house that they can't figure out. The commie Dems keep them in those jobs, and make dirty deals with them to keep getting elected. It's a racket I tell ya ... a racket. They ain't that smart ... believe me ... believe me. Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (YMJtx) 489
So do I have this right? Tucker comes across as a self-proclaimed ubermensch who just happens to have taken up the fallen standard of the rubes and happily jousting with his fellow elites on 'our' behalf?
=== isn't that a pretty good description of ace? Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (qU2ch) Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (OZmbA) 491
1 Sheila Jackson Lee has a law degree from the University of Virginia.
The defense rests... Posted by: tu303 She also graduated from Yale and yet she's a borderline retard. Affirmative Action doesn't end at admissions. It's waived standards all the way down. Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 23, 2017 04:34 PM (nFwvY) 492
It appears from the story that everyone saw her head into the bathroom to do the deed so she had to come up with some story in which she was still The Good Girl and that's what she went with. I doubt very much it was a calculated decision to ruin those two guys' lives so much as a sociopathic lack of care that she would.
At least the cops are charging her, it's about time this stuff is taken seriously. Posted by: alexthechick Hopefully those two guys rape the schools' purse. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:35 PM (WFe5M) 493
What year did you graduate? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:23 PM (vur0q) '82, had 214 in the class by the time we graduated. My friends were pretty much in the 'advanced track' of classes (you're in the same classes all the time, so you become friends). I was thinking about being a lawyer, then changed tack 'bigly' senior year to engineering. That meant Calculus, Physics, and Chemistry my senior year, along with English, and a couple others. My close group of friends (all in the top 15 of the class) ended up well. I'm an engineer. The others, off the top of my head: optometrist, Ph.D in economics professor (ugh, ivory tower!), OB/GYN doc (she's the one that beat me out of 4th! lol), programmer, deputy prosecutor who became a patent law guy. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:35 PM (8iiMU) 494
BEN'S WAS THAT HE'S AS DUMB AS HE LOOKS.
-- Then that time he threw five touchdowns two weeks in a row, they had him talking like William F. Buckley. Good times. Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (10LGw) 495
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=368547#c26706124
I grew up in Chittenango, NY. Great place in the '70's; moved away 40 plus years ago. Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (gbWkA) 496
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/
rumana-ahmed-trump/517521/?utm_source=twb Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM (NOIQH) I don''t have to read the article to spot the problem, Rumana Ahmed, hmm, given BO's predilection for stuffing Muslims, particularly Muslim Brotherhood shills into every job available. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (kXoT0) 497
False accusations of rape should carry the same penalty as rape, its self.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (39g3+) 498
She also graduated from Yale and yet she's a borderline retard. Affirmative Action doesn't end at admissions. It's waived standards all the way down.
Oh, jeebus. Lesson for the paler shades of America: Shoe polish ain't just for shoes. Claim your piece of affirmative action before it's too late. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (TppKb) 499
All of this reef talk puts a hole right through my heart.
Posted by: Zombie Steve Irwin at February 23, 2017 04:37 PM (UOJLJ) 500
When Guam tips over you will know the apocalypse has arrived and you bitter clingers will wish you had never voted for the Trumpster.
Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 04:37 PM (Ik1WR) 501
Ace is sure getting a few jabs today
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 04:37 PM (HDU3V) 502
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT BILL AYERS GHOST WROTE DREAMS FROM MY FATHER!!!
Posted by: Amy Schumer Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:32 PM -- Talk about she persisted..... Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (7ZVPa) 503
Here's your daily dose of cuteness -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8B-RuJRI2A It involves a clingy baby panda. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (nsZ+m) 504
Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (vur0q) 505
"... good at a very limited number of cognitive functions, they are sorely lacking in crucial ones ..."
I deal with these people All. The. Time. Posted by: The Barrel at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (DMUuz) 506
So are there established criteria for changing one's race?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (97XyN) 507
It occurs to me that the great hatred and contempt the white upper class leftists have for the white blue collars is also rooted racism.
"It's one thing for the little brown and black people to be badly educated and poor. They can't help it, poor things. But white people? They should all be doing as well as us, what with white privilege and all. If they're not, there's something wrong with them. They should be hating their own race while sitting on top of society, just like we do. It's OK to run the world if you keep telling people how much your own race sucks while you're doing so." Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (ZM2xo) 508
The left called Bush stupid, he graduated from Yale, business Masters from Harvard... But .. But his family connections So if you believe that family connections should rule out someone than 2/3 of our elites ARE our elites because of family connections. If you got anything from the Podesta emails is that our elites are dumb, avarice and look out only for themselves their family and spend all their trying to get a inside on a deal, money, a job for one their kids on table at great restaurant.
That's why maybe 50 years the brightest were our elites, now it's their retarded offspring, like McCain for example, bottom of his class but his family his name propelled him and now for last 40 years he has ruled over us or Al Gore who dropped out of Law school his first semester after receiving 4 f's., didn't matter he replaced his dad, Senator of Tennessee and Vice President. Or John Kerry went to Yale like Bush, family connections but didn't have the grades to get into a Ivy League law school and end up going to Boston College Law school and like Al Gore this clown has been one of our ruling elites for the last 40 years. The reason why we have declined, same in Eruope is because our elites became our elites based on connections , family money or diversity. Posted by: Ava at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (1ANfd) 509
Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 Get off My lawn Sonny.... Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (O2RFr) 510
"But mostly the "elites" simply, generally, aren't."
That may be, but they will fight to the death for that label and slaughter anyone who denies them that. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (hLRSq) 511
look blank when someone was talking about 'the club' That's that doohickey you put on your steering wheel so your car won't get stolen. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (IqV8l) 512
Annnnnnnnd, were back to my over-educated sister (you remember - "Doctor" at family functions) but under-compassioned. Yes - it's a word.
Her concentration, when not teaching at a 3rd rate college, is counseling. This is a woman whom, when I was away from home traveling overseas for work, could not be bothered to check on my severely suicidal wife even though we only lived a mile away. When Dr gets shitty with me (pretty much whenever we see each other) I reminder her that I sprinkled late wife's ashes in her back yard. Sis is going to hell. I work hard to forgive her. But alas, my field of give a fucks is barren. Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (tr2D7) 513
bod = bag of dice
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (eClek) 514
You know when you see a movie that says its "based on real life events" and you know they made most of it up? Just kept a few names and basic events like "there was a forest fire?"
That's what its like to read the news lately. Based on real events. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (39g3+) 515
When we originally moved to a high end subdivision I was looking forward to the dinner parties so I could meet new friends. I had 4 small children.so I didn't get out much. at the very first party, however, while talking to a few of the wives, everybody was asking each other what they did-occupation- and when it was my turn and I said I was a housewife the disdain was palpable. How much education I had, how rewarding I felt raising my children, how important I felt it was to be there for them-none of that was important to them. So I suppose that there is a pecking order in all parts of society. Of course nobody else had 4 children either so I was in a class by myself in lots of ways.
Posted by: Chilling the most at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (Cl52v) 516
507 It occurs to me that the great hatred and contempt the white upper class leftists have for the white blue collars is also rooted racism.
"It's one thing for the little brown and black people to be badly educated and poor. They can't help it, poor things. But white people? They should all be doing as well as us, what with white privilege and all. If they're not, there's something wrong with them. They should be hating their own race while sitting on top of society, just like we do. It's OK to run the world if you keep telling people how much your own race sucks while you're doing so." Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (ZM2xo) =================== I think it was in the print National Review were I read an article that the disdain towards the white working class is just an extension of the same prejudices that have existed for hundreds of years in America. The Scotch-Irish lower classes have always been looked down on. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (vur0q) 517
504 Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM (vur0q) My lawn......you know what to do. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (XWkhW) 518
Oh, jeebus.
Lesson for the paler shades of America: Shoe polish ain't just for shoes. Claim your piece of affirmative action before it's too late. Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (TppKb) Mindy Kaling's brother did that to get into Medical School. He claimed to be Black because he knew he has not applied himself to get good enough grades to get in on merit, so he panicked and the rest is history. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (kXoT0) 519
Outside of the hard sciences, college in America is a racket. Anyone who pays tuition higher than the flagship state university is a complete fool.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (ww7pX) 520
>>I don''t have to read the article to spot the problem, Rumana Ahmed,
hmm, given BO's predilection for stuffing Muslims, particularly Muslim Brotherhood shills into every job available. I tried to read it, and she only joined the WH staff in 2011 and Ben Rhodes offered her a job on the NSC in 2014 (wow, was everyone on his team as inexperienced as he was???) and she tells the reader she's a muslim and wears a hijab about 100 times. Seriously, we see the big ol' pic at the top of the article but apparently these two things are so important they must be repeated every third sentence. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (NOIQH) 521
Judicial coup update: intact.
Jay Sekulow, guest hosting for dope Hannity, illustrating how bad things are. In passing reference to the judicial coup, AKA the district judge + 9th Circus "rulings" usurping clear executive authority without even a head-fake towards basing it in law or the constitution, Sekulow talked about how the 9th got it wrong. You see, they and the district guy were wrong about nobody from the 7 countries being involved in terrorism. Face-palm. Sekulow, who actually litigates constitutional matters, appears to believe the issue is that the courts are just misinformed and stupid (which of course they are), NOT that they have lawlessly usurped executive authority. THIS is how hopeless things are. Oh - and the new EO comes next week. Question: how many admissions occurred from the 7 countries, admissions the intel community believes cannot be done prudently under current circumstances? Follow-up question: why in the hell would several districts and several circuits NOT nuke the new EO? The first one was destroyed based on no party with standing, no law, no constitutional principle, as well as no factual basis. This ends your judicial coup update. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (QDnY+) 522
Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM You don't have a lawn to stand on. Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:41 PM (DMUuz) 523
506 So are there established criteria for changing one's race?
Posted by: Cloyd F Cornrows first Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 23, 2017 04:41 PM (nFwvY) 524
517 My lawn......you know what to do.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2017 04:40 PM (XWkhW) ===================== Make a peace circle with some hippies? Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:41 PM (vur0q) 525
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You don't have a lawn to stand on. Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:41 PM (DMUuz) =================== I own my own damn lawn. I'm one of the few Millenials that does. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM (vur0q) 526
Ace I know you've suggested that working a blue collar job confers no moral righteousness either and so far as it goes I agree. But FWIW much like Buckley's first X # of names in the phone book I would still rather let a hundred guys I worked with in kitchens vote over a hundred of the mandarin class any day of the week. Going home at the end of the day stinking with sore feet at the very least inculcates a little humility if not wisdom.
Posted by: Escoffier at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM (8W4CM) 527
So are there established criteria for changing one's race?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud Contact Shaun "Talcum X" King for pointers. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM (WFe5M) 528
False accusations of rape should carry the same penalty as rape, its self.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:36 PM (39g3+) Objectively, yes, but I'm sketchy about tacking on stuff that makes legitimate crime victims hesitant to report them. If you're going to do that, then the same burden of proof should be required against the false accuser. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM (8nWyX) 529
So, the idiot at the end of the bar who says "Fire can't melt steel" is to be embraced?
Posted by: West Town at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (Y3C5w) 530
Jon krakauer is long overdue for his Bag of Dick. right about when the Rolling Stone hoax came out and Barky was doing his cute "It's On Us" campaign to stop the RAEP EPPYDEMIC, krakauer put out his book on Missoula.
I *still* think it was a co ordinated message from our elites for the 2014 election, aimed at college educated women. White men are rapists, was the message, so vote Democrat. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (GBhy1) Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (YEelc) 532
507 It occurs to me that the great hatred and contempt the white upper class leftists have for the white blue collars is also rooted racism.
"It's one thing for the little brown and black people to be badly educated and poor. They can't help it, poor things. But white people? They should all be doing as well as us, what with white privilege and all. If they're not, there's something wrong with them. They should be hating their own race while sitting on top of society, just like we do. It's OK to run the world if you keep telling people how much your own race sucks while you're doing so." Is this part of why we are considered racist/homophobic irredeemable deplorables because we don't measure up? Projection? Posted by: USNtakim at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (hMqvx) 533
Posted by: Ava at February 23, 2017 04:39 PM (1ANfd)
Bush's problem was that he did not give off the proper 'vibe'... he did not have the correct Accent... he WANTED to work his own land... he probably did not belong to the proper clubs... He self selected himself out of the 'elite'... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (qf6WZ) 534
Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM
Way too many? What are you going to do-euthanize we old codgers? ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (fDdVG) 535
Obama has to be smart, look at the tons and tons of his papers they are flying to Chicago. Using C-5A's to move it all....
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:44 PM (ec2s9) 536
534 Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM
Way too many? What are you going to do-euthanize we old codgers? ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (fDdVG) ==================== Yup. That's exactly what I wanted. Cull all of you, then maybe Ace will hear my pleas to start a weekly movie thread. I have a plan... Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:44 PM (vur0q) 537
"Al Gore who dropped out of Law school his first semester after receiving 4 f's"
The sum total of Algor's scientific education was one (1) undergraduate "breadth" course, one of the ones the dim legacies and thick jocks are carefully steered to by the counselors. Al did manage to pass this "general science" course, "Man's Place In Nature", albeit only with a D grade. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 04:44 PM (noWW6) 538
@521 Follow-up question: why in the hell would several districts and several circuits NOT nuke the new EO? The first one was destroyed based on no party with standing, no law, no constitutional principle, as well as no factual basis.
------------------ I'm sure the White House knows the new EO will get blocked by a court, as well. However... The old EO had the "careless writing" baggage due to things like Green Cards, etc..., that weren't intended to be blocked by the EO. The new EO will hopefully be written well enough that the Left has to go straight to the court instead of finding other problems with it first. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:44 PM (nsZ+m) 539
Way too many? What are you going to do-euthanize we old codgers? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (fDdVG) I graduated HS a year early in 1967. So when is my special medicine going to be delivered? Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 23, 2017 04:45 PM (kXoT0) 540
I own my own damn lawn.
I'm one of the few Millenials that does. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM (vur0q) Very good! We won't give you a lollipop, kid. Just by being here, you know it's better to earn it. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:45 PM (8iiMU) 541
" But FWIW much like Buckley's first X # of names in the phone book I would still rather let a hundred guys I worked with in kitchens vote over a hundred of the mandarin class any day of the week. "
Except that nowadays many of the guys working in kitchens are illegals. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (ZM2xo) 542
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Very good! We won't give you a lollipop, kid. Just by being here, you know it's better to earn it. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:45 PM (8iiMU) ===================== But I want it now! Gimme the lollipop! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (vur0q) 543
>I don''t have to read the article to spot the problem, Rumana Ahmed,
hmm, given BO's predilection for stuffing Muslims, particularly Muslim Brotherhood shills into every job available. **** taqiyya never sleeps Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (eClek) 544
"The Scotch-Irish lower classes have always been looked down on."
See also: David Hackett Fischer's brilliant _Albion's Seed_. Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (noWW6) 545
I own my own damn lawn.
I'm one of the few Millenials that does. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:42 PM Well, that's good, son, 'cause per AoSHQ protocol, y'all gonna be told to get off most of ours. :-) Have we told you about how we had to walk 20 miles each way to school, up hill and into the wind both ways? How the snow was so deep we had to walk on the tops of the telephone poles? No? Well settle back ... Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (DMUuz) 546
Those who have the most ego invested in the skill of repeating what Teacher has told them are naturally going to be very averse to suggesting the heresy that Teacher might be wrong.
-------- Them: "But...we have been trained to be Critical Thinkers. Therefore, our insight and wisdom trumps your normative social constructs." Me: "Oh? You mean 'Critical Thinking' as promoted by the Marxist/Frankfort School?" Them: "Uh... well, yes." Me: "I see. And is that perspective/methodology an evolved perspective/methodology addressing evolved human nature, or one that is an artificial construct based upon a theory entertained by a handful of people who existed outside of and insulated from the real world?" Them: "Huh? I don't get the question." Me: "No. Of course you don't." Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (ZO497) 547
So, the idiot at the end of the bar who says "Fire can't melt steel" is to be embraced?
Posted by: West Town at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (Y3C5w) You can embrace Professor Rosie all you want buddy. Talk about missing the point of the post... Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (hLRSq) 548
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Grew up in a town of about 2,500 in upstate NY (north of Albany). Primarily an agricultural area. Great people. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:18 PM (jxbfJ) Mind me asking where? I grew up in Clifton Park back when it was all farm country. You're right - it was great back in the 70's. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 23, 2017 04:27 PM (kUmUV) Greenwich Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (jxbfJ) 549
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Have we told you about how we had to walk 20 miles each way to school, up hill and into the wind both ways? How the snow was so deep we had to walk on the tops of the telephone poles? No? Well settle back ... Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (DMUuz) ==================== You people are making ME old now. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (vur0q) 550
@533 Bush's problem was that he did not give off the proper 'vibe'... he did not have the correct Accent... he WANTED to work his own land... he probably did not belong to the proper clubs...
He self selected himself out of the 'elite'... ------------------ It might be relevant that Dubya wasn't the Bush that was supposed to ascend to the presidency like his father did. I wonder if some of the hatred was because Dubya got there and Jeb never did? Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (nsZ+m) 551
2003...am I the baby?
I don't know what was the minimum requirement, but I had two years of calculus, 3 years of biology, 2 years of chemistry, 2 years of algebra, 5 years of French... I was an IB student. It felt normal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:12 PM (vur0q) Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) 552
graduated HS a year early in 1967. So when is my special medicine going to be delivered?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 23, 2017 04:45 PM (kXoT0) I graduated in 63, I really need that special med. Went in the army, to college, and here I am... Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (ec2s9) 553
ollow-up question: why in the hell would several districts and several circuits NOT nuke the new EO? The first one was destroyed based on no party with standing, no law, no constitutional principle, as well as no factual basis.
*** somehow the 9th CIR gave itself veto power over potus. Congress needs to nuke them. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (eClek) 554
But I want it now! Gimme the lollipop! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Posted by: TheJamesMadison You have to be a member of the guild. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (IqV8l) 555
530 Jon krakauer is long overdue for his Bag of Dick. right about when the Rolling Stone hoax came out and Barky was doing his cute "It's On Us" campaign to stop the RAEP EPPYDEMIC, krakauer put out his book on Missoula.
I *still* think it was a co ordinated message from our elites for the 2014 election, aimed at college educated women. White men are rapists, was the message, so vote Democrat. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (GBhy1) I remember the murder of Matthew Shepherd, where a meth deal gone bad was turned into a hate crime against Teh Gheyz, for the same reason, the 1998 off year elections. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (ujg0T) 556
551 Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) =================== Oh, thank God. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:48 PM (vur0q) 557
Have we told you about how we had to walk 20 miles each way to school, up hill and into the wind both ways? How the snow was so deep we had to walk on the tops of the telephone poles?
No? Well settle back ... Posted by: Duncanthrax ----------- Telephone poles? We had to beat on hollow logs to communicate. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:48 PM (ZO497) 558
Why yes it was completely normal to take your own personal video camera with you to Vietnam..... Why do you ask?
Posted by: John Kerry at February 23, 2017 04:48 PM (fPE66) 559
When I was in HS my math teacher kept a bottle of Hoppes in his desk draw. He was also the leader of the marksmanship/gun club.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 04:48 PM (UOJLJ) 560
Most students and regular people can't understand how we put men on the moon without the computers we now have. What's a slide rule?? Thousands of punch cards just to run a simple math program? How stone age. Posted by: Colin They had some somewhat advanced computers back in those days. Yes, the programs were entered on punch cards. But in the end it was a pair of women, laboriously 'hard wiring' the results of the software into a breadboard that got the job done. I wrote software for decades in 'high level' languages. Which sounds snotty. It only means they're close to english language statements like 'open this file'. That 'low level' stuff of meticulously wiring a breadboard based on the assembly language output? On my best day I have no clue how they did it. People (not you) who try to denigrate the usa space missions are vile people. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 04:49 PM (ZFUt7) 561
One of those breakthrough moments you have in life where things become clear is when I realized that the "elites" got the same crappy education I got. That they knew as much as me or even less, despite their fancy titles and degrees.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 04:49 PM (39g3+) 562
556 551 Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) So why are you hanging out here with all Us old folks? Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2017 04:49 PM (O2RFr) 563
Make a peace circle with some hippies? Or a pentagram and set the hippies on fire. Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2017 04:43 PM (YEelc) I'm a big believer in Pratchett's Law: Build a man a fire, and he'll stay warm for the night. Set a man on fire, and he'll stay warm for the rest of his life. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2017 04:49 PM (XWkhW) 564
Have we told you about how we had to walk 20 miles each way to school, up hill and into the wind both ways? How the snow was so deep we had to walk on the tops of the telephone poles?
No? Well settle back ... Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:46 PM (DMUuz) My Mom actually does tell a story that she was always mad at one of her Uncles, because when she was walking home from school in Nebraska, she was behind a snowbank when he went by with a Horse drawn wagon... and didn't pick her up... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 04:50 PM (qf6WZ) 565
I graduated in 63, I really need that special med. Went in the army, to college, and here I am...
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (ec2s9) Now I feel like the kid. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:50 PM (8iiMU) 566
Speaking of Al Gore Nat Geo says it has had 34 stories in 3 years on global warming/climate change, next month they are going to lay out all the facts showing how the planet is heating up
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2017 04:50 PM (HDU3V) 567
Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) =================== Oh, thank God. Posted by: TheJamesMadison ------------ Isn't it time for the afternoon nap, kiddies? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:51 PM (ZO497) 568
Junior, um - no, on all counts?
The first EO was not carelessly written (not even close). But, again, this entirely misses the point. Entirely. President's authority to regulate admission of aliens (LPRs are aliens, no distinction) is plenary. It's not unclear, it's not in dispute, there is no moral, common sense, statutory, or constitutional argument (or even a comment) to the contrary. That, alone, is the point. The courts have no jurisdiction other than pro forma reaffirmation of same, a la the MA district statement. There are no parties - no conceivable parties - with standing to challenge such authority, if our system is to make any sense even its own current screwed up form. If the courts are on the org chart for approving alien admissions, it needs to be shown. If they're not - and they're not, and everyone knows it - then every step in this process, including the new EO, once again massively expands the power of the judiciary beyond that granted by the constitution and the law. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 04:51 PM (QDnY+) 569
I graduated HS in 1978 when I was 9. At least that's the math according to how old I am right now.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 04:51 PM (VeUrT) 570
Diminutive new thread BTW.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (wPiJc) 571
@560 That 'low level' stuff of meticulously wiring a breadboard based on the assembly language output? On my best day I have no clue how they did it. People (not you) who try to denigrate the usa space missions are vile people.
------------------ Took a few CS classes back in the day. Assembly on the 68000 (I think) was illuminating. Not fun in any way shape or form, but illuminating. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (nsZ+m) Posted by: Harry Reid at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (YEelc) 573
Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) Blaarg. I'm not even in the running with some of our more seasoned and Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (8nWyX) 574
ollow-up question: why in the hell would several districts and several circuits NOT nuke the new EO? The first one was destroyed based on no party with standing, no law, no constitutional principle, as well as no factual basis.
*** somehow the 9th CIR gave itself veto power over potus. Congress needs to nuke them. Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (eClek) There is nothing CONGRESS can do to nuc the power of an out of control Court... That is the Supremes Job... Now, what do you do about an out of control Supreme Court? We have not figured out yet... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (qf6WZ) 575
536 534 Way too many of you graduated high school before I was born.Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 23, 2017 04:38 PM
Don't sweat it. I will not hold your youth and inexperience against you. But get off my damn lawn. Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (CPk08) 576
567 Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) =================== Oh, thank God. Posted by: TheJamesMadison ------------ Isn't it time for the afternoon nap, kiddies? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:51 PM (ZO497) Put some brandy in their sippy-cups. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (XWkhW) 577
What's especially funny is that the two least intellectually demanding majors outside of "studies" majors are teaching and journalism. They know they're dim. That's why they picked the easy route. They're terrified you know it too.
Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (nFwvY) 578
When I went to High School, we had marksmanship class.
I carried a single shot Marlin 22lr slung over my back. Everyone in the whole class did. We never shot anything but the paper targets. Somehow, we all lived. Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (w7KSn) 579
President's authority to regulate admission of aliens (LPRs are aliens,
no distinction) is plenary. It's not unclear, it's not in dispute, there is no moral, common sense, statutory, or constitutional argument (or even a comment) to the contrary. ^^THIS Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2017 04:53 PM (8iiMU) 580
562 556 551 Dibs on the baby title. Graduated HS 2004.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (WuRdh) So why are you hanging out here with all Us old folks? Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2017 04:49 PM (O2RFr) Because 1) you all are awesome people, have great discussions/insight and provide fantastic entertainment at work and 2) people my age don't much like talking politics unless its 'you should be in jail because you're hitler and deny global warming and say things I don't like.' Or are so afraid to voice their opinion for fear of the Tolerati. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:54 PM (WuRdh) 581
I graduated in 63, I really need that special med. Went in the army, to college, and here I am...
Posted by: Colin ------------- Same with Vic, except he was with Caesar when the Rubicon was crossed, and I think it was XLV. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:54 PM (ZO497) 582
@568 That, alone, is the point. The courts have no jurisdiction other than pro forma reaffirmation of same, a la the MA district statement. There are no parties - no conceivable parties - with standing to challenge such authority, if our system is to make any sense even its own current screwed up form.
----------------- I'm not arguing that point. I'm noting that the first EO had a lot of "Well, we didn't mean people with Green Cards..." type moments even before it went to court. That made it look bad to the public even before the court got involved. My guess is that the White House wants to make sure that there won't be any of those distractions this time around. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:55 PM (nsZ+m) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:55 PM (ZO497) 584
@560 That 'low level' stuff of meticulously wiring a breadboard based on the assembly language output? On my best day I have no clue how they did it. People (not you) who try to denigrate the usa space missions are vile people.
------------------ Took a few CS classes back in the day. Assembly on the 68000 (I think) was illuminating. Not fun in any way shape or form, but illuminating. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (nsZ+m) or, as it was known back in the day.... Ring 0 engineering to meet Ring 1 programming... And yes, I used to be able to step a program through a computer 1 instruction at a time, and SEE with a logic probe, exactly what was going on at the output of the chipsets... Sperry Univac UYK-20 Computers..... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 04:55 PM (qf6WZ) 585
>>>So, the idiot at the end of the bar who says "Fire can't melt steel" is to be embraced?<<<
If by 'embraced' you mean buy him drinks until he flips ass-over-teakettle off of his stool onto his head, then yes. If he does it three times in one night, you'll know that this guy has a running tab with the bar. Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2017 04:56 PM (2Bv92) 586
It might be relevant that Dubya wasn't the Bush that was supposed to ascend to the presidency like his father did. I wonder if some of the hatred was because Dubya got there and Jeb never did?
Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (nsZ+m) No, they would have hated Jeb too. Anybody with a R after their name gets hated. To be fair, I would have hated Jeb! as well. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:56 PM (ZM2xo) 587
I was probably polishing shitters at 20kt a few hundred feet under the Pacific when you were graduating, and I'm not that much older.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM Captain of the Head, eh? Since they were 20 carat, you were on boomers. Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (DMUuz) 588
So why are you hanging out here with all Us old folks? Posted by: It's me donna Probably hoping to sell us some weed. NTTAWWT Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (ZFUt7) 589
@574 There is nothing CONGRESS can do to nuc the power of an out of control Court...
That is the Supremes Job... Now, what do you do about an out of control Supreme Court? We have not figured out yet... ------------------ Actually, Congress can. There's something that Congress can do - I can't remember what it's called - that basically announces, "The court is nuts with the latest ruling." Presumably the president has to be involved, as well. That would allow two of the co-equal branches to "Trump" (*cough*) the third. Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (nsZ+m) 590
I went to Woodstock, I bet most can't claim that....Of course I lived fairly close by, and didn't know how big it was going to be! I may be very old, but those were the days. Still can smell the pot in the air, can recognize that now when I smell it on someone.
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (ec2s9) 591
You may have asked yourself, what can I do to help protect Donkey Reef? The first step is to educate yourself about the danger.
Human-induced global warming has a double whammy effect on Donkey Reef: higher ocean temperatures force the marine organisms to expel the colorful zooxanthallae algae that live inside its skeleton and that provide most of its nutrients; and oceans become more acidic as a result of absorbing higher levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, slowing down the rate at which corals can build their calcium carbonate skeletons. During a coral bleaching event, reefs lose so much zooxanthallae that they become white and experience massive die-offs. As if that weren't enough, pollution, over-fishing and boat-anchor damage can also destroy Donkey Reef. But here are five things you can do: 1. Conserve water. The less water you use, the less runoff and wastewater will pollute our ocean and damage Donkey Reef. For example, only shower once a month. 2. Help reduce pollution. Walk, bike or ride the bus. Your SUV causes ocean warming which causes bleaching of Donkey Reef and lead to its destruction. 3. Plant a tree. Trees reduce runoff into the oceans. You will also contribute to reversing the warming of our planet and the rising temperature of our oceans. 4. Contact your government representatives. Demand that they take action to protect Donkey Reef. 5. Use a condom. The more people on our planet, the greater stress on our environment and in turn on Donkey Reef. You can make a difference! Posted by: The Sierra Cousteau Conservatory for Saving Donkey Reef at February 23, 2017 04:58 PM (hA1V+) 592
When I went to High School, we had marksmanship class.
I carried a single shot Marlin 22lr slung over my back. Everyone in the whole class did. We never shot anything but the paper targets. Somehow, we all lived. Posted by: navybrat --------- I grew up in the country. Hunting was a way of life. There wasn't a kid over 12 years old who did own or have access to at least a .22. We roamed field and forest all of the time. Never, EVER did it occur to anyone that a personal dispute should be settled with a gun. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 04:58 PM (ZO497) 593
The bottom line is that we have totes sooper smart geniuses running the country and yet here we are in the Era of Stupid.
'Tis a great mystery. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:59 PM (ZM2xo) 594
Wrong, Don Q., Congress has substantial authority over the courts, including limiting their jurisdiction. That includes SCOTUS.
You are correct in spirit, however, that nobody has figured out what to do with lawless courts, mostly because their lawlessness has never reached its current level. Though this seems to have eluded even those apparently outraged by the *consequences* of judicial lawlessness. It's a fundamental integrity issue. The Soviet constitution was wondrous (RBG would probably swoon at its words, and esp. its authors) in its verbiage and protections. One little problem: it meant nothing. This is where we are with the courts. They simply rule by decree (when it suits them), without reference to the plain meaning of the words in the law, not to mention the context or legislative history thereof. Now THAT is beyond fixing. Just look at every attempt to create integrity in public institutions in Third World (or former Second World) countries, where no such thing previously existed. Very difficult. Hong Kong might be the best lab experiment in history on this. Local police and public officialdom of very high integrity (thanks, anglosphere) gets handed over to typical lawless, power-based, traditional form of govt. Dunno where things stand. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 04:59 PM (QDnY+) 595
586 It might be relevant that Dubya wasn't the Bush that was supposed to ascend to the presidency like his father did. I wonder if some of the hatred was because Dubya got there and Jeb never did?
Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:47 PM (nsZ+m) No, they would have hated Jeb too. Anybody with a R after their name gets hated. To be fair, I would have hated Jeb! as well. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 04:56 PM (ZM2xo) Bingo. Donna has it. And I think you are forgetting that !Jeb! WAS the Heir Apparent until destroyed by The Donald. Had The Donald not appeared, I could see the 2016 GOP convention becoming like the 1964 one, with Cruz vs. Jeb as a modern day Goldwater vs. Rockefeller, with lots of infighting. And then President Shrillary Clitler bringing us a No Longer Great Society of permanent American decline. Shudder. Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2017 05:00 PM (ujg0T) 596
Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2017 04:52 PM (w7KSn)
I know.... I remember all the Pickup trucks in the High School lot with gun racks and guns... Went snow skiing a couple of weeks ago... and one lady not too much younger than me was horrified that I wasn't wearing a helmet... as it, in her words... set a bad example... Just told her 'well, that IS my job'... and skied off... Oh, and for the record, been skiing Expert Level stuff for over 40 years... all over the world. Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 05:00 PM (qf6WZ) 597
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (ec2s9)
And your parents probably thought it was the end of Western Civilization. Hell, my parents thought that when they saw the Rolling Stones on Ed Sullivan. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 05:01 PM (ZM2xo) 598
Sperry Univac UYK-20 Computers.....
Posted by: Don Q. ----------- I'll see your Sperry, and raise you an NCR-315. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:01 PM (ZO497) 599
Captain of the Head, eh?
Since they were 20 carat, you were on boomers. Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (DMUuz) Oh dear, no. Flush toilets would have been wasted on us, to say nothing of the mini golf course and bowling alley on a boomer. Stainless steel with the lever-actuated ball valve. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 05:02 PM (8nWyX) 600
Hell, my parents thought that when they saw the Rolling Stones on Ed Sullivan.
Posted by: Donna ------------ Elvis - The end of civilization. Thing is, I'm not so sure that they weren't right. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:03 PM (NBHj5) 601
or, as it was known back in the day.... Ring 0 engineering to meet Ring 1 programming...
And yes, I used to be able to step a program through a computer 1 instruction at a time, and SEE with a logic probe, exactly what was going on at the output of the chipsets... Sperry Univac UYK-20 Computers..... Posted by: Don Q. If I had a single dollar for every line of computer code I wrote in the half dozen languages I coded in I'd be a multi, multi millionaire. But I don't have a f_cking clue what you typed. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 05:04 PM (ZFUt7) 602
Actually, Congress can. There's something that Congress can do - I can't remember what it's called - that basically announces, "The court is nuts with the latest ruling." Presumably the president has to be involved, as well. That would allow two of the co-equal branches to "Trump" (*cough*) the third.
Posted by: junior at February 23, 2017 04:57 PM (nsZ+m) They can do a sense of the Congress... but there is no where in the Constitution that says a court MUST abide by it... Once the Court took on the Extra Constitutional Power, of reviewing Constitutional Questions themselves.... like Gay marriage, or Abortion... taking them OUT of the political arena... We were screwed... because Hell... it was the Courts in 1965 who over rules the clearly written Law of Congress and said the Dual Citizenship was LEGAL... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 05:05 PM (qf6WZ) 603
Elvis - The end of civilization.
Thing is, I'm not so sure that they weren't right. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:03 PM (NBHj5) I know what you mean. Once you got teen culture aka shocking the grownups and the "squares," well, you have to keep upping the game don't you? And so here we are. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2017 05:06 PM (ZM2xo) 604
"Educated Class and Non-Educated Class" Someone did some research awhile back, turns out almost everybody who worked for Harvard that donated money to political campaigns donated it to Democrats. There were 2 Republicans, though, an IT instructor and a janitor. My statement then was that if a furnace broke at Harvard those 2 could probably team up and fix it. Janitor would get his tools out of his truck, IT guy would get some tear down manuals off the internet and put them on his Ipad and away they'd go. Everybody else couldn't do it or would refuse and freeze to death. [2 sets of feet sticking out from the furnace] "Well, its running. Sounds funny, though.""Wait, is this the 5000-B or 5000-C?""Uh...C, I think, does it matter?""Yeah, if it's a B, this panel is wired correctly, otherwise...""Let me see that...scroll over a bit...yeah, here it is, that goes here and this goes there..."[furnace blows harder]"Ah, that's it! Give it a hour, nice and toasty!"
Posted by: hurricane567 at February 23, 2017 05:06 PM (jjyTS) 605
This is nothing new. Charles Murray documented the effects decades ago and he was lynched by the leftists. Look at his book the Bell Curve and other works.
Posted by: Locke Common at February 23, 2017 05:08 PM (a/dj+) 606
If I had a single dollar for every line of computer code I wrote in the half dozen languages I coded in I'd be a multi, multi millionaire.
But I don't have a f_cking clue what you typed. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum ----------- Well, you see, in the age of the front-panel computer, it was possible to single-step the clock, manually. So, it was possible to statically observe electrically, or visually, everything as each instruction was executed. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:08 PM (ZO497) 607
If I had a single dollar for every line of computer code I wrote in the half dozen languages I coded in I'd be a multi, multi millionaire.
But I don't have a f_cking clue what you typed. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 05:04 PM (ZFUt7) The UYK-20 was a military computer... used primarily for Satellite Communication. We could literally go in with a Logic probe, and step through instructions one at a time, and look at the results at a hardware level... Troubleshooting machine code... 1's and O's.... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 05:09 PM (qf6WZ) 608
This is nothing new. Charles Murray documented the effects decades ago and he was lynched by the leftists. Look at his book the Bell Curve and other works.
Posted by: Locke Common ------------ Pretty sure those were all burned. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:09 PM (ZO497) 609
Back in the olden days, at the senior prom, we shocked, I mean shocked the parents by the way we danced and carried on. They were expecting the foxtrot I think!!
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 05:09 PM (ec2s9) 610
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says the US is "not experiencing the best of times" - but the "pendulum" will swing back.
Speaking to BBC Newsnight in a rare interview, Justice Ginsburg reiterated the importance of the free press. "I read the Washington Post and the New York Times every day, and I think that the reporters are trying to tell the public the way things are," she said. Justice Ginsburg was nominated by Bill Clinton and is regarded as a liberal. "Think of what the press has done in the United States," she said citing the Watergate scandal. "That story might never have come out if we didn't have the free press that we do." Justice Ginsburg was attending the final dress rehearsal of Dead Man Walking at the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC - an opera looking at the moral ambiguity of the death penalty in America. Posted by: EVLINC! at February 23, 2017 05:10 PM (y3aQB) 611
Graduated HS in '74; went to college on a NROTC scholarship. Now, everybody get off my damn lawn!
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 05:11 PM (gbWkA) 612
598 Sperry Univac UYK-20 Computers.....
Posted by: Don Q. ----------- I'll see your Sperry, and raise you an NCR-315. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:01 PM (ZO497) /carefully moves off his lawn.... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 05:12 PM (qf6WZ) 613
2003...am I the baby?
I don't know what was the minimum requirement, but I had two years of calculus, 3 years of biology, 2 years of chemistry, 2 years of algebra, 5 years of French... I was an IB student. It felt normal. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at ------------ 1999. You're 4 years younger than I am?! I had this portly, gray-haired, fatherly mental image of you...I blame it on the nic. :-D Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 23, 2017 05:13 PM (adsVM) 614
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Sperry Univac UYK-20 Computers..... Posted by: Don Q. ----------- I'll see your Sperry, and raise you an NCR-315. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 05:01 PM (ZO497) Now I feel like the baby in the bunch. Cut my teeth on an IBM S/36 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 05:13 PM (jxbfJ) 615
I read that Ginsburg article this am...got a chuckle and moved on....I still remember that pic of all the Supreme's sitting in a row, and she is sleeping.
Posted by: Colin at February 23, 2017 05:14 PM (ec2s9) 616
Oh, and I took a cobol and basic in college.
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 05:15 PM (gbWkA) 617
Pro tip: Be a winner, not a loser.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2017 05:16 PM (2eOht) 618
Why do I feel like road kill?
Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2017 05:16 PM (2eOht) 619
If I had a single dollar for every line of computer code I wrote in the half dozen languages I coded in I'd be a multi, multi millionaire.
But I don't have a f_cking clue what you typed. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 23, 2017 05:04 PM (ZFUt7) It's not exactly the same, but look around for an Altair 8800 emulator and the manual PDF (which will have the 8080 instructions). You can program in some instructions and data and step through every step of the program and see the contents of every memory register as you do. It's not super practical, but it's really kind of fun. I half-assedly tried to make a simple multiplication calculator on it once (8080 does not have an instruction for multiplication), but it didn't have a case for multiplying by zero because i not smrt. Posted by: hogmartin at February 23, 2017 05:17 PM (8nWyX) 620
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Oh, and I took a cobol and basic in college. Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 05:15 PM (gbWkA) I was coding BASIC in high school - for an engineer who designed heat transfer/recovery equipment (economizers, etc.).COBOL and Fortran 77 in college mostly.RPG for internship and for the first half+ of my career. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2017 05:18 PM (jxbfJ) 621
1st year calculus? 3 foreign profs = F; 4th time an American prof = A.
Posted by: Thinks he's Archer at February 23, 2017 05:18 PM (gbWkA) 622
I wiped my hard drive with shit tickets. That works amirite?
Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2017 05:18 PM (2eOht) 623
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Why do I feel like road kill? Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2017 05:16 PM (2eOht) Cause I beat you like the angry hand of God. Posted by: Trump Bus at February 23, 2017 05:19 PM (jxbfJ) 624
Hey Trump! You pussy. Over here. When are you going to put me in jail?
Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2017 05:23 PM (2eOht) 625
624 Hey Trump! You pussy. Over here. When are you going to put me in jail?
Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2017 05:23 PM (2eOht) Don't need to. How's Bill? Posted by: P F'n T to you, Bitch at February 23, 2017 05:26 PM (CPk08) 626
>>>It's not exactly the same, but look around for an Altair 8800 emulator
and the manual PDF (which will have the 8080 instructions). You can program in some instructions and data and step through every step of the program and see the contents of every memory register as you do. It's not super practical, but it's really kind of fun.<<< I remember writing a particularly nasty bit of code many years ago using 8080 opcodes. You could run it once and it would perform its function, and then it would consume everything it could access and hang up. My instructor found it to be disturbing at the time, but hey, she gave me an A+, baby! Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2017 05:33 PM (2Bv92) 627
Because 1) you all are awesome people, have great discussions/insight and provide fantastic entertainment at work
and 2) people my age don't much like talking politics unless its 'you should be in jail because you're hitler and deny global warming and say things I don't like.' Or are so afraid to voice their opinion for fear of the Tolerati. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 04:54 PM (WuRdh) And here I thought it was because we gave great dating advice. You know, there are probably those of like mind in your age group, you just need to start smoking them out. If they haven't already accosted you with SJW talking points, they're most likely at the very least...libertarian. Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2017 05:50 PM (nNdYv) 628
Confession: I scored in the 99th percentile on my SAT tests back in the dark ages of the early '70's, and that made me a National Merit Scholarship finalist.
I got letters from universities all over the country. Man, did I think I was special then. It took me a lot of years to finally get over that. I realized after some years how this sort of thinking was encouraged, and how unhealthy it is. I work with some guys of above average, average and actually below average intelligence. They are still human beings, and still deserve to be treated with some respect. This whole notion of elites and IQ and all that other rubbish is unhealthy for everyone. I see similar kids today, and actually feel kind of sorry for them. This sort of thing is NOT going to help them in the long run. Every body needs a degree of humility, because none of us are THAT smart. Well, maybe Freeman Dyson. And from what I have read, he is actually quite a nice and humble man. I don't have an answer to it, but it is really a self-inflicted wound on our country and culture. Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 03:28 PM (RFeQD) That was me, in the late 60s. The best thing God ever did for me was to arrange my life so that I never had the academic career I wanted (except for some adjunct teaching). Instead, I got to work for years in rural areas and later in medical facilities; it finally dawned on me that farmers are probably the smartest and bravest people out there. At one point I was talking to people born around World War I, who had eighth grade certificates. They were far more literate than many of the college students I later taught. Posted by: Miss Sippi at February 23, 2017 05:55 PM (Tcfj+) 629
Another 99th percentile gal here, and National Merit Scholar. I get real irritated with these Pecksniffian types, the Percival Ponces, who think their fertilizer smells like the attar of roses and all who disagree with them are lamebrains.
AND as a matter of fact, slightly more Trump voters than Hagzilla voters have a college education -- FWIW. And ALL of us have infinitely more horse sense than any of the horse's asses who voted for the criminal hag. Posted by: Beverly at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (jZ7Bp) 630
Where is Jonathan Swift when we need him? These beauxeaux remind me of the Laputians in Gulliver's Travels, who were so preoccupied with bizarrely idiotic ideas that they needed servants to hit them with an inflated bladder to catch their attention when they were out walking about, on the verge of stepping off a cliff, etc.
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