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On Political Panic

Bumped. Some people specifically asked to post this so that the "day-walkers" could see it.

When I first read about panic -- I had panic, in a bad way, but had misdiagnosed myself with the related-but-distinct condition of anxiety -- I read that people who suffer from panic become calm when they're in airports, waiting to board a flight.

People who have panic don't have panic due to air flights? Huh? Why?

I realized at that point I must have panic, and not anxiety, because I actually experienced this same feeling of calm in the airport, awaiting a flight. I'd be panicky getting ready to call a cab, driving to the airport, etc., but the minute I got into the airport -- no panic.

I read the reason for this. Panic tends to strike younger people shortly after college, especially if those people get jobs with low levels of certitude about the day's schedule. Actors, for example -- they live a kind of unstructured life. Med students in their residency get panic a lot -- their tours of duty at the hospital are often irregular and even when they're regular, they're weird. Like they might have to work two back to back shifts, then get four hours to sleep in a closet, then work another shift.

Even if you're scheduled for that every week, it's hard to get used to that.

The cause of panic, it is speculated, is going from an environment in which one's hours are generally accounted for each day, and the days tend to unfold with predictability and stability, maybe even a dash of boredom. And then moving from a regime in which one's hours are regularly scheduled, and one knows more or less what is expected of one (that is, one knows there's going to be some ugly cramming at the end of a semester), and then moving to a circumstance in which one's hours are erratic, unpredictable, and full of uncertainty, and even the standards of what constitutes "good work" are unknowable.

In college or high school, an aspiring actor knows what will get him a decent grade in acting class (or any other class): attend class, memorize the lines, work on some technique. Even if you're not that great, just doing the work should get you a B.

But what about the real world? You can do all the work you like, but that audition is completely unpredictable. You have very little control over your own fate. You might have prepped for days and even done that thing where you "live" as your character to get "into his skin," but the fact is, the casting director might have taken one look at your face before you even sat down and decided "He's just not right."

So that's what causes panic: Moving out of a stable circumstance in which one knows what is expected of one and feels a certain level of positive control over one's success or failure, and moving into an erratic, chaotic, unstable circumstance in which one has very little idea of what the hell one is even supposed to be doing and having very little idea if any of one's efforts are even a factor in whether one rises or falls.

By the way, getting back to the airport: The reason the airport not only doesn't produce panic but rather produces calm is that the airport is a highly bureaucratized and regularized process full of queues and roped-off lines and expected events like checkpoints. Yes, it's unpleasant, yes, it's annoying, but -- here's the thing -- it's all calmingly predictable and boring. And you kinda know the minute you walk into an airport what's expected of you, and what's going to happen.

It's also reassuring that you're not in control anymore, not really. This is different than not being in control in a competitive and erratic field -- in those, you can kind of do things to influence things in your favor or not, but that influence is weak. You can fail, and it's largely out of your hands, but your failure will still feel like your failure. You'll still own it.

But in an airport, with The System shepherding you through, you can't really screw things up, unless you do something really dumb like just to to the wrong departure gate (which, btw, I've done). There is A Plan in place, and A Regimen, and A Machine just kind of sweeping you along passively from one area to the next.

If there's some problem with an airplane, that's someone else's fault, not yours, and you can't be blamed for it. It'll suck, absolutely -- but it's not your fault. You may have to take a seat and wait another six hours, but you don't have to take the blame.

Anyway, given all the agita and hysteria and the quite-frankly insane kind of behavior I see in a lot of people at this moment, I wonder if they've come down with a sort of existential panic, a case of formerly knowing where one fit in and who one's allies were and what "The Rules" of advancement were -- a clear view of the lay of the land -- to feeling to be on unstable and shifting ground and surrounded by fog and wondering where the hell one even is.

The solidity and predictability of the world has been stolen out from beneath their feet, and now they're lurching about a bit madly and frenetically trying to grope on to something that might give them some balance and bearing.

Just an idea. I'm not married to it or anything. But I do kind of notice this same shift from the predictable and routine to the unpredictable and unexpected, and I know that sense of dislocation produces at least one psychic malady. I wonder if there are other versions of it.

Posted by: Ace at 05:39 PM




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1 Near the top!

Posted by: Country Boy - just a humble, occasionally hotheaded poster at February 23, 2017 08:13 PM (5hokv)

2 Nailed it!

Posted by: Country Boy - just a humble, occasionally hotheaded poster at February 23, 2017 08:13 PM (5hokv)

3 top 10

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 23, 2017 08:15 PM (hVdx9)

4 Not first, but not last

Well, so what?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 08:17 PM (S6Pax)

5 Fifth, but I'm not drunk

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 08:17 PM (S6Pax)

6 I'm not quite sure what this post is about, but...top ten?

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:17 PM (TppKb)

7 I was polite enough to inform the others.

Posted by: Country Boy - just a humble, occasionally hotheaded poster at February 23, 2017 08:17 PM (5hokv)

8 As a recently long time lurker who has delurked, I have some advice Ace. Don't panic and whenever you feel anxiety just take several deep, slow breaths and drink a shot of rye and take several more deep breaths followed by a shot of rye.

(Did I make 100th?)

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:19 PM (Ik1WR)

9 It seems to me that the window for panic is fairly small. When you are young, you are invincible, and when you are older, you don't give enough of a shit to worry.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:19 PM (LTHVh)

10 It's not a good idea to drive down a road without holding the steering wheel to see if you will live or not.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 08:19 PM (GKlaO)

11 I mean, look at me. I should be dead a hundred times over, so every day is gravy. It can be aggravating, but it's all plus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:20 PM (LTHVh)

12 Don't Panic

Posted by: Hitchhiker's Guide at February 23, 2017 08:20 PM (IqV8l)

13 Different people respond differently to crisis or the unexpected. Some respond with aggression: "Somebody will pay." Some respond with retreat, some with panic, some with paralysis, some with hysteria, some with humor, some with ambition: "an opportunity!"

I think a lot of how you respond to crisis and problems is how you were raised to, and the examples you had around you. If mom and dad responded with humor to a crisis, chances are you learned to do the same thing -- and probably had the inherited inclination to do so. If they freaked out and ran about weeping, well that's what you learned to do, too.

The tough part is learning to change up or do things differently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:21 PM (39g3+)

14 In case of sonic attack on your district, follow these rules
If you are making love it is imperative
To bring all bodies to orgasm simultaneously

Do not waste time blocking your ears
Do not waste time seeking a sound proofed shelter
Try to get as far away from the sonic source as possible

Do not panic, do not panic, do not panic
Do not panic, do not panic, do not panic

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (LTHVh)

15
I can always tell when it's Oscars Season. Teh Ewok puts up a shitload of movie reviews.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (cuZZW)

16 I will say, though, that this country was built by people who responded to difficulty and crisis by determination and ambition. they saw problems as opportunities, they saw disaster as an opening to build and grow. They saw setbacks as learning opportunities, and had ambition to fill the gap.

That's largely been lost in our culture and the nation is suffering dearly from it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (39g3+)

17 I'm just going to go with they are a bunch of fucktards.

Simpler.

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (HV1LS)

18
Use your wheels it is what they are for
Do not attempt to use your own limbs
Small babies should be placed inside the special cocoons
And should be left, if possible, in shelters

If no wheels are available metal, metal, metal, metal
Metal, metal, metal, metal
Not organic limbs should be employed whenever practical

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (LTHVh)

19 Is political panic different from the TDS thats all the rage at the moment? I know in the depths of the Federal Leviathan, its more Trump Derangement Syndrome than it is panic. Nobody is in a panic but whoo boy are they angry. That can't be good for the psyche.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2017 08:23 PM (pY+s4)

20 Panicked? Just follow the yellow brick road to the wizard, tap the toes of your red shoes, and suddenly you are back in Kansas.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:23 PM (Ik1WR)

21
Remember, remember, remember, remember
In the case of sonic attack survival means
Every man for himself, himself, himself, himself, himself, himself
Statistically more people survive if they think
Only of themselves, only of themselves, only of themselves

Do not attempt to rescue friends, relatives, loved ones
You have only a few seconds to escape
Use those seconds sensibly or you will inevitably die

Do not panic, do not panic
Think only of yourself, think only of yourself
Think only of yourself, think only of yourself

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:23 PM (LTHVh)

22 And you kinda know the minute you walk into an airport what's expected of you, and what's going to happen.

Not having stepped foot in an airport since seeing my father off on business trips as a child in the 60s, I don't have the slightest idea what I'm supposed to do.

I think an airport would be panic-inducing for me.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:24 PM (sdi6R)

23
These are the first signs of sonic attack:
You will notice small objects - such as ornaments - oscillating
You will notice vibrations in your diaphragm
You will hear a distand hissing in your ears
You will feel the need to vomit
You will feel dizzy
You will have difficulty focussing
You will need to breathe more rapidly
There will be bleeding from orifices
There will be an ache in the pelvic region
You may be subject to fits of hysterical shouting or even laughter

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:24 PM (LTHVh)

24 I'm not quite sure what this post is about, but...top ten?
Posted by: JEM

Stay calm. All is well!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 08:24 PM (S6Pax)

25
These are all sign of imminent sonic destruction
Your only protection is flight
If you are less than ten years old
Remain in your shelter and use your cocoon
Remember - you can help no one else
You can help no one else
You can help no one else
Do not panic
Think only of yourself
Think only of yourself
Think only of yourself

Think only of yourself

Think only of yourself

Think only of yourself

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:25 PM (LTHVh)

26 "a case of formerly knowing where one fit in and who one's allies were"

On the subject of allies, the Democratic brain trust figured that they had nothing to fear from Trump in coal country, because the union bosses bragged that it was all safely under control, and the rank and file would do what they were told to do, as they had obediently done before.

But, now that the peons have decisively broken with the old order, there has to be a lot of nervous wondering about, jeepers Wally, what might they end up doing next?

Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 08:25 PM (noWW6)

27 Most of human history can be explained as the search for control: control of one's environment, control of a stable food supply, control of access to sex, etc.

In fact, I think maybe this is the meaning of the Tree of Knowledge in Eden. We were happy until we learned that we aren't in control, and will at best, only have minor successes in the battle against entropy and decay. Then we die.

Or maybe I'm just full of crap.

Posted by: Og at February 23, 2017 08:25 PM (LAe3v)

28 https://youtu.be/AXxmIcsmpnQ

There's always room for panic.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:26 PM (TppKb)

29 Panic is what happens when you have one round in the chamber and the ammo box is empty. We and Ace are not there yet. Panic? We don't need no stinking panic.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (Ik1WR)

30 You've just described how Red felt after he was paroled.

Posted by: 13times at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (WHVu+)

31 For me, in what would be considered a panic situation , time slows down and I can't hear anything while my brain is assessing what's happening and making plans. It's been that way since I was a kid. I can remember being shot at outside of a bar. I can still see the plaster coming off the building in slow motion.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (IDPbH)

32 I PANIC WORRYING ABOUT WHEN TRUMP IS GOING TO SHOW UP TO THROW ME IN THE CAMPS!!!

Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (qJhUV)

33 "There's a penguin on top of the telly."

"How do you suppose it got there?"

"Maybe it came from next door."

"Penguins don't come from next door, they come from the Antarctic. Burma!"

"Why'd you say Burma?"

"I panicked."

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (sdi6R)

34 But what about the real world? You can do all the work you like, but that audition is completely unpredictable. You have very little control over your own fate.

You just gotta do what you gotta do to get that role. Whatever you gotta do.

Know what I mean?

Posted by: John Travolta at February 23, 2017 08:28 PM (hA1V+)

35 I go with blaster on this one.


Lacking critical thinking skills, knowledge, worldliness, and common sense seems to me much more the key trait of those panicking these days than any psychological "condition".


There are all sorts of smart, and stupid. I have observed a tremendous, fierce, unbending refusal to acknowledge that the country is above all being dragged down by Teh Stupid, in its several forms.


This goes back to the non-elite elite crisis thinggy. Also the lack of almost any American sensibility (liberty, rule of law, aversion to racism) among "liberals" or "progressives", it's being supplanted by race-obsessed authoritarianism and economic illiteracy.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 08:28 PM (QDnY+)

36 Panic is what happens when you have one round in the chamber and the ammo box is empty.

Panic is when you pull the trigger and it goes 'clank'.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:28 PM (TppKb)

37 "There's a penguin on top of the telly."

"How do you suppose it got there?"

"Maybe it came from next door."

"Penguins don't come from next door, they come from the Antarctic. Burma!"

"Why'd you say Burma?"

"I panicked."

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:27 PM (sdi6R)


is that monty pythons?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2017 08:29 PM (aMlLZ)

38 I'm not sure if I liked the movie "Panic"....it made me uncertain of myself in a scary unpredictable way and I no longer felt in control......

Posted by: lindarising schadenbutton! at February 23, 2017 08:30 PM (JNDQi)

39 I'm pretty panicky.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:30 PM (Ivjge)

40 37
is that monty pythons?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2017 08:29 PM (aMlLZ)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTqC2T6q4E

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

41 I PANIC WORRYING ABOUT WHEN TRUMP IS GOING TO SHOW UP TO THROW ME IN THE CAMPS!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn


She's such a city girl. Who knew she liked camping?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at February 23, 2017 08:31 PM (S6Pax)

42 18 If no wheels are available metal, metal, metal, metal
Metal, metal, metal, metal
Not organic limbs should be employed whenever practical Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:22 PM (LTHVh)

Woah. That's pretty metal.

Posted by: Nathan Explosion at February 23, 2017 08:31 PM (V4Qfo)

43 You didn't play Little League Baseball for very long, or at all, did you Ace?

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:32 PM (eGfTO)

44 is that monty pythons?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2017 08:29 PM (aMlLZ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTqC2T6q4E

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:30 PM (sdi6R)


Lol, I thought it sounded familiar. I haven't seen that episode in probably 35 years.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2017 08:32 PM (aMlLZ)

45 I panic worrying that some will find me and take me up on my offer to fight them in The Octagon.

Posted by: Tim "Milk Carton" Marchman at February 23, 2017 08:32 PM (qJhUV)

46 Panic is when it really burns when you pee and you remember that one night stand you had a couple days ago.

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at February 23, 2017 08:33 PM (3c87J)

47 There was a Hill staffer, nice guy, who had some condition that caused him to verbalize the most absurd panicky fears - he'd just blurt them out, sometimes even laughing at himself when the first reaction of those around him was laughter. Made for some funny moments on a war zone trip.


Felt sorry for him, though. Everyday life must have been a non-stop panic exercise.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 08:33 PM (QDnY+)

48 I think you're overthinking it, Ace.

Leftists are immature, narcissistic children who never had to grow up and face reality; they're simply throwing temper-tantrums.

Call it the terrible-20's ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 08:33 PM (mt8X9)

49 "Now, wait
I'm a dead man! Do you realize? You're dead, too! We're all dead!"

"Don't panic!"

"What else is there
to do?"

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 23, 2017 08:34 PM (V4Qfo)

50 I panic when I think about some bearded freak in a dress flashing his junk at me in a public restroom.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 08:34 PM (UOJLJ)

51 JEM@8:28

Always remember to count as you shoot, it is important to know how many rounds are left in the mag. It helps with the panic thingy. But when in a panic, counting goes out the window. Catch 22.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:34 PM (Ik1WR)

52 BTW, I get the impression from this post that Ace is a frustrated, former actor wannabe. Amirite?

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (mt8X9)

53 Just tell them to relax, Train stations are similar to airports and very relaxing.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (P/kVC)

54 I wonder if they've come down with a sort of existential panic, a case of formerly knowing where one fit in and who one's allies were and what "The Rules" of advancement were

I think you're on to something here, but I also think for a lot of people it's the same phenomenon as when you take a toy or candy away from a spoiled child - outrage over a violation of the sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (hA1V+)

55 I panic when I see the AARP advertising on FNC and supporting PT.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (UOJLJ)

56 Excellent post, Ace, very insightful. I think this helps explain why anyone promoting social change, in either or any political direction, is surprised to encounter such emotional resistance from un-thoughtabout people: the people whose life-plans and expectations you are upsetting as your plans take effect have a sudden unexpected uncertainty about whether their life-plans will work as expected. And that triggers a panic emotion.

Posted by: Edward Sisson at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (ti84S)

57 what is all this panic nonsense? you are only panicked because the hurricane has not hit yet.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (cPsPa)

58 You didn't play Little League Baseball for very long, or at all, did you Ace?

Don't panic. If you are going to be tagged out, be tagged out advancing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:35 PM (LTHVh)

59 Panic is when that fart turns out to be wet and you're in line to board your plane...

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at February 23, 2017 08:36 PM (3c87J)

60 A shorter version of this could be

Life is hard. Life is harder when you are stupid.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:36 PM (LTHVh)

61 It stems from confidence...

If you are Paniced... its because you don't believe you can handle what life throws at you.

Young Men, when first in the Military, panic a lot... they are not sure of what is going on, and are not confident they can handle it...

Senior NCO's on the other hand, are SURE they don't often know what the hell is going through the brains of the Officers who supposedly lead them.. BUT do not Panic, because they are confident enough in themselves, and those around them, that they are sure they can get through it. (I can't speak for Officers, never was one).

I learned long ago, that life just plain sucks sometimes... its going to happen... but it ain't killed me yet (although it sure seems to try a lot)...

The older Generation, survived the Depression, then WW2.. then Korea.. some Viet Nam... they KNEW that things sucked, but they could get through them...

My Kids Generation, are still under the impression that life is SUPPOSED to always be pretty good....

And to a certain extent, I blame TV. They solve every damn problem in an Hour...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 08:36 PM (qf6WZ)

62 Another feature is the unexamined dread that deep down you might be... wrong. When the whole country goes "UP YOURS" in your face rejecting you, only a madman doesn't have a moment of doubt. But when you have lived your whole life for yourself and been raised coddled, isolated, and protected from failure and consequence, that feeling is alien and unknowable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:37 PM (39g3+)

63 Speaking of triggers, was surprised that the smallest charge in my set of test loads was sufficient to cycle the 1911 and for the surplus magazines to feed properly. Silhouette is a potent powder. (new recoil spring is stronger than old one, forcing me to up the charge for proper function)


Also first time I intervened (indoor range) with a party near me - teenage boy with somewhat cute mom - to make sure they were being safe. Was happy to be leaving at that point.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

64 Funny I never heard of this film before....

Posted by: bill-o at February 23, 2017 08:39 PM (QbQC7)

65 JEM@8:28

Always remember to count as you shoot, it is important to know how many rounds are left in the mag. It helps with the panic thingy. But when in a panic, counting goes out the window. Catch 22.
Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:34 PM (Ik1WR)

which is why consistent training is so important...

Training takes over, when panic sets in....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 08:39 PM (qf6WZ)

66 I think you're overthinking it, Ace.

Leftists are immature, narcissistic children who never had to grow up and face reality; they're simply throwing temper-tantrums.

Call it the terrible-20's ...

Posted by: ShainS


I was basically thinking the same thing, but you said it better.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2017 08:39 PM (W8bn5)

67 Like my parents used to say.

"Quit your panicking or I will give you something to panic about".

Which usually resulted in being boxed around the ears and head.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2017 08:39 PM (5VlCp)

68 >>If you are going to be tagged out, be tagged out advancing.


That's just one scenario.


Always know what to do when the ball comes to you.

Always know what to do when the ball doesn't come to you.






Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:40 PM (eGfTO)

69 fake panic, they were scaremongered to death and now that which they were taught to fear the most (i am talking about politics here) came true

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:40 PM (c6/9Q)

70 Panic is fear.

Fear is the Mind Killer.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:41 PM (eGfTO)

71 I get panicky in airplanes not because it isn't structured but because I'm 35,000 feet in the air and I don't like heights. Other people's mileage may vary.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 08:41 PM (nvMvs)

72 Always know what to do when the ball comes to you.

Always know what to do when the ball doesn't come to you.



On every play, there's somewhere for you to be.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:41 PM (LTHVh)

73 I don't mind heights, in fact, I enjoy them. I fear falling.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:42 PM (LTHVh)

74 And because I have nothing better to say, but love this song, and it's kinda relative to panic and the response thereto:

https://youtu.be/E1C9N7z5sPc

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:42 PM (TppKb)

75 70 Panic is fear.

Fear is the Mind Killer.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:41 PM (eGfTO)

+++

I'm fearful, too. Panicky and fearful.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:42 PM (Ivjge)

76 fear of heights (being on a plane) is rational, sort of. politic-induced fear is BS

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:42 PM (c6/9Q)

77 You are never wrong to take your first step toward the ball.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:42 PM (LTHVh)

78 >>It's also reassuring that you're not in control anymore


This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (eGfTO)

79 I actually recommend the book Gates of Fire by Stephen Pressfield for this topic. There's quite a bit of discussion between the Spartan soldiers about the meaning of fear, how to deal with it, what the opposite of fear is (he got it wrong), and so on. Its done in the context of grizzled Spartans and the doom they faced, as well as just training and facing fear in battle. Exceptional read, but the discussion is very thought provoking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (39g3+)

80 They lost.

That's why they're panicking. They were told they would win and they lost.

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar.

We are talking about them panicking, right?

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (qUNWi)

81 I get panicky in airplanes not because it isn't structured but because I'm 35,000 feet in the air and I don't like heights. Other people's mileage may vary

I rarely drink much on planes just 'cause I want to be conscious and able to do whatever's necessary if shit happens.

Just my thing.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (TppKb)

82 I suppose that this was a topic earlier today, but I missed.

RIP Alan Colmes.

And, I mean it. Too young.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (ZO497)

83 I'm fearful, too. Panicky and fearful.

You just need more hugs

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (39g3+)

84 I'm fearful, too. Panicky and fearful.

You just need more hugs



and a back rub.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (LTHVh)

85 Panic rhymes with seismic. Is California about to caliexit? If so, don't panic. Instead celebrate. 3 deep, slow breaths followed by a shot of rye.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (Ik1WR)

86 22 And you kinda know the minute you walk into an airport what's expected of you, and what's going to happen.

Not having stepped foot in an airport since seeing my father off on business trips as a child in the 60s, I don't have the slightest idea what I'm supposed to do.

I think an airport would be panic-inducing for me.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:24 PM (sdi6R)

I used to travel international with a layover at a Japanese airport. They make everyone get off the plane, get passports visas checked, back into the main terminal, wait while they refuel, then back on the plane.

To get to the passport inspection inspection they took us through some back corridors with a lot of turns, like cattle being channeled in an abattoir, and it took a long time... I would call out, "Hey, up there at the front of the line, tell them to speed things up and use the same glove." Helps the folks relax about not knowing what's around the next corner.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (P/kVC)

87 I have panic attacks and also generalized anxiety disorder. I still don't know what Ace is talking about.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (bpfzP)

88 The only time I get panic attacks is when I am up somewhere high.

Swinging chairs at the fair? Panic
Roller coaster? Calm.
Looking out a floor to ceiling window in a high rise? Panic
Getting up on a roof of a house? Panic.
Flying? Calm as can be.
Looking out of a normal window in a high rise? Calm.
Standing on a flat roof of a tall building? Calm.

If my feet are flat on the floor or there is something flat under my feet, I'm fine.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (1JnAL)

89 Anyway, given all the agita and hysteria and the quite-frankly insane kind of behavior I see in a lot of people at this moment, I wonder if they've come down with a sort of existential panic, a case of formerly knowing where one fit in and who one's allies were and what "The Rules" of advancement were -- a clear view of the lay of the land -- to feeling to be on unstable and shifting ground and surrounded by fog and wondering where the hell one even is.

I think it occurs in situations where we think we should have control, but don't know what to do. When we know that things are out of our control we stop panicking. Conservatism, IMHO, has always been largely about preserving the rules and institutions of society precisely to prevent this sort of mass hysteria. People know what behaviors to fall back on, which prevents mass panic. The same way that a military unit trains in battle drills. Because once panic takes hold bad things tend to happen.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (Tnhbr)

90 On every play, there's somewhere for you to be.

Chatting up the pitcher's girlfriend?

Posted by: rift in the team at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (wpC7C)

91 This makes no sense to me.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (eGfTO)

=====

Panic comes from having to make a decision, and fearing it will be a bad one.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (YkWXu)

92 Orgasm cures panicky and fearful.

Just something I heard.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (qUNWi)

93 >>Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:41 PM (LTHVh)


This is why baseball is the most valuable game you can learn.

No other sport combines these lessons.
In most, you follow a set play.
In baseball, each player has to act autonomously in everty (live action) situation.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (eGfTO)

94 The mind is like a house with many rooms. One of those rooms is the fear of death. You must shut that room away and never think of it.

Posted by: Probably Not Quite Accurate Dionekes at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (FqgrG)

95

Yeah, I'm not sure that what you're noticing is actually panic. Existential Panic? Maybe. My take, which may well be wrong, is that it seems to be more hissy fit, than panic. It seemed to me, that the left got somewhat bored during Barry's time. They really want to shreik about something and under Barry, it just wasn't satisfying. Now Trump... well, it's like the good old days are here again. Trump's even better than Bush 2. Trump is like Nixon to them. Let's party like it's 1969!

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (lmIoG)

96 82: did they say what the cause of death was? I'm guessing cancer. He was too young.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (pY+s4)

97 I met Kate Upton at a bar and we hit it off and she invited me to her apartment. As we were undressing she asked if I had a condom. Panic!!!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth's dream at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (IDPbH)

98 78 >>It's also reassuring that you're not in control anymore


This makes no sense to me.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (eGfTO)

+++

I can see it. You spend your time (if you are panicky) trying to come up with every possible result in any situation. It wears you out. It is a relief when you are no longer in control, allowing the others taking the reins for a while.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:45 PM (Ivjge)

99 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2017 08:46 PM (W8bn5)

100 >>Panic comes from having to make a decision, and fearing it will be a bad one.


Panic, for me, comes from having decisions made for me.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:46 PM (eGfTO)

101 However we should panic that they havent repealed Obamacare yet.

Posted by: Jean at February 23, 2017 08:46 PM (zZb/S)

102 Anyone who isn't praying the entire time that they are on an airplane, is an atheist.

I was having a few drinks in a bar in Atlanta, and it turned out the guy sitting next to me was a air traffic controller.

I told him how much I hated flying. His response was, "You either know too little... or too much."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (ZO497)

103 I sometimes sit here and wonder what we would be chatting about if hilllary had won........

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (le7jz)

104 >>You spend your time (if you are panicky) trying to come up with every possible result in any situation.


This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Thufir Hawat at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (eGfTO)

105
DON'T PANIC.[b/]

Posted by: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (yfObW)

106 I think the fact that the WH called in grief counselors, not guidance counselors, for the staff there after the election kinda proves your point ace.

As for me, my schadenboner is still doing handsprings in my pants. I've had to start wearing ponchos and it still looks like I have a Mexican jumping bean infestation 'down there'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (xpfRn)

107 Panic, for me, comes from having decisions made for me.

Ping.

Decisions that materially affect the future of something you care a lot about.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:48 PM (TppKb)

108 When I'm at the airport I panic about the TSA and...full cavity searches.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 08:49 PM (UOJLJ)

109 This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 23, 2017 08:49 PM (qgUJH)

110 There is no Panic in Baseball.

There is in Hockey, though. He plays r. wing for the Blackhawks.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:49 PM (eGfTO)

111 Panic, for me, comes from having decisions made for me.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:46 PM (eGfTO)

=====

I can understand that. However, once that airplane door closes, what decisions can you make to alter the upcoming course of events?

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (YkWXu)

112 The following has nothing to do with panic. In fact it was comforting to me. I just watched Mike Pence's C-PAC speech. I think it was the best political speech I have ever heard.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (bpfzP)

113 Stay calm. All is well!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative


Good thing I did a search before posting.

Posted by: Kevin Bacon at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (vRcUp)

114 >>However, once that airplane door closes, what decisions can you make to alter the upcoming course of events?


I'll only get on a plane if I'm flying it.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (eGfTO)

115 103 I sometimes sit here and wonder what we would be chatting about if hilllary had won........


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


The comparative advantages of carbon monoxide vs an overdose of barbiturates.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (xpfRn)

116 This is why baseball is the most valuable game you can learn.

No other sport combines these lessons.


Its also why when people say "nothing is happening most of the time!" it just shows they know nothing about the game. Something is happening all the time. You just need to learn how to read and recognize it.

My favorite example of this was Barry Bonds. He's known for his hitting but he was the best fielder of his era. He never looked fancy or spectacular, there weren't diving catches and crashing into the wall. You know why?

Because he was always where he needed to be. So the ball just came to him. A few steps, catch. Slap the thighs, throw the ball back in.

The reason was because he was watching and learning: where are the runners? What kind of batter is it? Left or right side of the plate? What kind of pitcher is it? How many outs are there? What's the score? How does the catcher usually call this situation?

With that information, he knew where the ball was likely to go, if it came to him, and he just went there.

That's baseball, and its why despite the fact that just about anyone can play, only an extremely elite group of a few hundred out of 6 billion can play it at the professional level.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (39g3+)

117 I sometimes sit here and wonder what we would be chatting about if hilllary had won........
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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Further stocking of the bunker: Thread - Is there any such thing as 'Too Much Ammo?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (ZO497)

118 Run. If there is somewhere you need to be, you might as well be there early.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (LTHVh)

119 You know what's funny? Every time Amy Schumer pops up in the comments. I always laugh. The real Amy Schumer is not very funny.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (Ivjge)

120 There is no Panic in Baseball.

Joe Panik plays for the Giants! So, technically...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (39g3+)

121 I sometimes sit here and wonder what we would be chatting about if hilllary had won.

What the new restroom signs mean?

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (TppKb)

122 ...and then everyone should panic.

Because, I don't know how to fly a plane.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (eGfTO)

123 82 I suppose that this was a topic earlier today, but I missed.

RIP Alan Colmes.

And, I mean it. Too young.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 08:43 PM (ZO497)


Yes, he will be missed.

I emailed him shortly after Hannity and Colmes started and, to my surprise, he responded. We ended up corresponding fairly regularly for several months. We didn't even talk about politics, just regular things like shared interests. He was a very nice guy.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (nvMvs)

124
Plenty of it here.

Posted by: Panic! At The Disco at February 23, 2017 08:52 PM (yfObW)

125 The Washington Post
Perturbation Panics Pinocchio

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 23, 2017 08:52 PM (Ndje9)

126 I sometimes sit here and wonder what we would be chatting about if hilllary had won........


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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I don't know if I'd even be chatting anymore. I think I'd have unplugged and started planning for the end times.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 23, 2017 08:52 PM (qgUJH)

127 Colmes did seem like a decent chap.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:52 PM (qUNWi)

128 I'll only get on a plane if I'm flying it.

Landing a little taildragger in a big crosswind. Not exactly panic, which could be costly and dangerous, but it damn well focuses your attention.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (TppKb)

129 Get out of my head. Freaking me out.

Posted by: Osoloco at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (VkAk+)

130 I panic when I think that somebody will find out that I'm actually an unfunny piece of skank meat who is incredibly dumb. Although some have said I shouldn't because it's already too late for that. I wonder what they mean?

Posted by: The Incredibly Stupid Sarah Silverman at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (qJhUV)

131 Alan Colmes was a numbskull leftist, but he was good natured and a decent sort, a nice guy despite being basically wrong about everything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (39g3+)

132 Yeah.. you pretty much have it, Ace.. more like mass hysteria though driven by these panicked inddividuals.. the left has only a hive mind...

Go watch that Twilight Zone episode where the aliens land ans sow confusion and panic..

https://vimeo.com/168014736

Posted by: Milo Y at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (UpGcq)

133 86
To get to the passport inspection inspection they took us through some back corridors with a lot of turns, like cattle being channeled in an abattoir
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2017 08:44 PM (P/kVC)


There's a Monty Python sketch about that, too.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

134 114 >>However, once that airplane door closes, what decisions can you make to alter the upcoming course of events?


I'll only get on a plane if I'm flying it.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (eGfTO)

Had a friend on a flight once bring his Sport Parachute as his carry on baggage... (he was going to Sky Dive where we were going)...

People loooooked at him.... and even the Stewardess gave him the stink eye...

I was rolling...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (qf6WZ)

135 122 ...and then everyone should panic.

Because, I don't know how to fly a plane.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (eGfTO)

+++

LOL.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (Ivjge)

136 Thank you for this! I'm about to start Uber driving tomorrow and even though I know I will love it, I've been putting off the starting for over a month!

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (VnNi7)

137 I don't know if I'd even be chatting anymore. I think I'd have unplugged and started planning for the end times.

Posted by: Carlos Mencia at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (LTHVh)

138 "But what about the real world? You can do all the work you like, but that audition is completely unpredictable. You have very little control over your own fate. You might have prepped for days and even done that thing where you "live" as your character to get "into his skin," but the fact is, the casting director might have taken one look at your face before you even sat down and decided "He's just not right."

This is the story of my fucking life for the last year.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 08:53 PM (0mRoj)

139 fake panic, they were scaremongered to death and now that which they were taught to fear the most (i am talking about politics here) came true
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:40 PM (c6/9Q)
---Bingo. The MFM is doing their best to stir up hysteria and a vocal minority on the ctrl-left is buying into it.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at February 23, 2017 08:54 PM (Zd2ZF)

140 Panic seems like a very bad survival trait. I wonder from whence it comes.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:54 PM (qUNWi)

141 106 I think the fact that the WH called in grief counselors, not guidance counselors, for the staff there after the election kinda proves your point ace.

As for me, my schadenboner is still doing handsprings in my pants. I've had to start wearing ponchos and it still looks like I have a Mexican jumping bean infestation 'down there'.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2017 08:47 PM (xpfRn)


Same here.

Funny thing is how the media is ginning up the Dems' opposition to President Trump.

A group of local leftist groups decided to hold a "Town Hall" here in town and invited the local GOP congresscritter. He had a trip to India planned and didn't attend. The media played it out like he "skipped" a Town Hall event because he didn't want to be confronted. No, he skipped a meeting of the Democrat party.

Of course, the DemMedia here had it as the lead story on tv and front page of the newspaper.

Every illegal's sob story is front page news, while any illegal's crimes are dismissed as "fake news". And the media wonders why no one trusts them.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 23, 2017 08:54 PM (1JnAL)

142 Or maybe I should change my name back.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 23, 2017 08:54 PM (qgUJH)

143 I think I would panic if I saw that Harrison Ford was my pilot.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:54 PM (Ivjge)

144 Because, I don't know how to fly a plane.
Posted by: garrett
----

How hard can it be?

Posted by: Indiana Jones at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (ZO497)

145 i moved a lot of miles away from someone who caused constant panic to me.

every day. almost every minute.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (wUROS)

146 When I was working car sales, I felt panic a lot, for the reasons you described, Ace. I went from a 9-5, M-F job (and a night job too at that point) to never knowing how long I'd be working each day, couldn't count on days off being days off, and never knowing what I would make each week. Now I have a steady 9-5 again, and I haven't felt like that in a long time.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (ANIFC)

147 Panic seems like a very bad survival trait. I wonder from whence it comes.

In fairness, I don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun you.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (LTHVh)

148 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (ZO497)

For preppers , there is no supply of anything that is too much. You always want more.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (IDPbH)

149 People on my social media are panicking about the polar bears cuz it's unusually warm in large parts of the country. I want them to stay panicked and scared shitless.

Some mornings I wake up and start the day and feel all panicky suddenly. It's rare and I can't explain it but causes physical pain. The first time it happened in my late 20's about 20 years ago I drove myself to the emergency room as I thought I was having a heart attack. I used to take meds for it but had all kinds of side effects from it so I just walk around the block quickly and I'm fine usually. Xanax is nice to have on hand for my issue but it's a struggle to get a prescription for it nowadays.

Posted by: kahall at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (uqy5O)

150 I think I would panic if I saw that Harrison Ford was my pilot.

I don't know the guy, and maybe he's going off with age, but by all past accounts he's damn good and I'd go up with him in a second.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (TppKb)

151 And you kinda know the minute you walk into an airport what's expected of you, and what's going to happen.

Oh yeah. Gonna get my 72.

Posted by: Mohammed Mahomet Muhammad at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (vRcUp)

152 I'll only get on a plane if I'm flying it.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 08:50 PM (eGfTO)

======================

Recently read Arnold Palmer's autobiography and this is exactly why he learned to fly his own plane ... as well as many other things.

Wanted to be in control as much as possible in his life ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (mt8X9)

153 "a case of formerly knowing where one fit in and who one's allies were and what "The Rules" of advancement were -- a clear view of the lay of the land -- to feeling to be on unstable and shifting ground and surrounded by fog and wondering where the hell one even is."

I can relate to this. It's more a feeling of increased isolation and anomie than panic, though. Also disappointment, disillusionment, frustration and anger.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (0mRoj)

154 this insanity from some quarters I honestly think is greatly magnified
by constant propaganda machine (the msm). no, the world is not in full
protest mode hating Trump, no the world is not ending

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (c6/9Q)

155 Wow, Skeletor was only 66? The Universe is less one evil goofball.

Posted by: Smitty27 at February 23, 2017 08:57 PM (g9d8D)

156 The down fall happened when baseball was no longer the national sport. The final axe was when the American League assholes decided to let pitchers no longer bat and then this NL teams play AL teams during the regular season bullshit. That was when to panic! Not now.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 08:57 PM (Ik1WR)

157 "However we should panic that they haven't repealed Obamacare yet."


Maybe not actual full repeal, not yet, but yeah in general even the buzz is pretty astonishingly bad. Even if the "buzz" is inaccurate (hello MSM) - no way if I were any part of GOP leadership on the Hill right now would I be letting *any* signal of weakness or betrayal stand as a legit data point for the observing public.


But this just continues to cement in O-care as my definitive illustration of how the country is hopelessly dumbed down. Every part of this story, from 2009 to now, reflects a country/system/populace on an inexorable downward path.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 08:58 PM (QDnY+)

158 I think I would panic if I saw that Harrison Ford was my pilot.
==============

lol, " Ladies and Gents this is your captain, Harrison Ford speaking...

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:58 PM (c6/9Q)

159 The American League plays a game similar to baseball.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 08:58 PM (LTHVh)

160 H O L Y C R A P


This never occurred to me.


I went from a highly regimented day/night. I got to work exactly at 7 every single day, for example. Not 659, not 701. Grad school at night.

Then I had a baby. But not just any baby, the screaming baby from hell. Later on finding out he was the ADHD poster child with other issues (fine and productive now, but still dramaking.) I couldn't do both so I quit work and at that moment my dad started dying from cancer. So I'd take my screaming baby from hell and drive 6 hours as often as I could. I had no schedule, it was organized around screaming baby from hell.


Panic. Lots and lots of panic.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (Mc+44)

161 Late to the party, but a lot of my Facebook friends are still in full-panic mode, months after the election... passing on rumors, freaking out over every little bit of Trump news, passing on memes here and there.

How can anybody maintain this? More importantly, why would they want to maintain it?

Posted by: GuyfromNH at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (5zfq1)

162 In fairness, I don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun you.

I think that bear is gonna get both of us Grump.

I could probably do a 6.0 in the 40.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (qUNWi)

163 Not to derail the conversation , but my faith is my shield against any panic.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (IDPbH)

164 145 i moved a lot of miles away from someone who caused constant panic to me.

every day. almost every minute.
Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 08:55 PM (wUROS)

+++

I can sympathize with that. Many times it is a residual
emotion from a past occurrence. Something you've lived through before and don't want to happen again.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (Ivjge)

165 I think I would panic if I saw that Harrison Ford was my pilot.

Posted by: washrivergal


I know the feeling.

Posted by: Chewbacca at February 23, 2017 09:00 PM (vRcUp)

166 What I didn't do was act like a leftist. No shit flinging, no lunatic ramblings, just panic.

Posted by: dagny at February 23, 2017 09:00 PM (Mc+44)

167 How can anybody maintain this? More importantly, why would they want to maintain it?
==================

they have nothing better or more important to do. just guessing

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:01 PM (c6/9Q)

168 I panic that this CT Gov on Tucker will lie so much he will burst into flames.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2017 09:01 PM (UOJLJ)

169 I emailed him shortly after Hannity and Colmes started and, to my surprise, he responded. We ended up corresponding fairly regularly for several months. We didn't even talk about politics, just regular things like shared interests. He was a very nice guy.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 08:51 PM (nvMvs)

=====================

That's very cool. I heard Hannity call into his own radio show today to talk about Colmes' passing, and I believe he said that Colmes had a past as a stand-up comic.

Is that true?

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:01 PM (mt8X9)

170 I had a really good friend who was all panic, all the time.

He could not step outside his regiment.

I would drop by his work and take him to lunch about twice a month. Never planned.

His boss never understood how I could get him to break his schedule without him completely losing his shit - which he would do anytime something spontaneous happened.

One day he asked him, and he replied, "Why would I panic? I'm with Garrett.'.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (eGfTO)

171 It's more a feeling of increased isolation and
anomie than panic, though. Also disappointment, disillusionment,
frustration and anger.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (0mRoj)
========================

You're trying to sweet talk me again, aren't you?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (bpfzP)

172 Panic seems like a very bad survival trait. I wonder from whence it comes.

In fairness, I don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun you.

Posted by: Grump928(C)
****

Real life story. Two guys were running from a bear. It blew by the slower of the two to get the faster guy.
I guess the bear didn't agree with the joke.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (hVdx9)

173
One day he asked him, and he replied, "Why would I panic? I'm with Garrett.'.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (eGfTO)

+++

Wow. Great endorsement.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:03 PM (Ivjge)

174 Keep Calm.

Chive On.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 09:03 PM (GKlaO)

175 >>> But what about the real world? You can do all the work you like, but that audition is completely unpredictable. You have very little control over your own fate.
You might have prepped for days and even done that thing where you
"live" as your character to get "into his skin," but the fact is, the
casting director might have taken one look at your face before you even
sat down and decided "He's just not right."

Subtle movie review for La La Land? Or Oscar predictor?

*makes tea*
*drinks tea*
*reads tea leaves to predict Oscars and what the MSM will kvetch about vis a vis Melania at the presitent's ball*
*makes more tea*

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2017 09:03 PM (LiMbk)

176 panic is bad. different from fear. fear is healthy.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (c6/9Q)

177 Real life story. Two guys were running from a bear. It blew by the slower of the two to get the faster guy.
I guess the bear didn't agree with the joke.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale


I like fast food.

Posted by: the Bear at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (W8bn5)

178 Not to derail the conversation , but my faith is my shield against any panic.

That was my first thought when I read this. "It's also reassuring that you're not in control anymore, not really."

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (hJamr)

179
"How does this help my kid? Well, not my kid, per se, but the one I'm flashing my salsicce to in the bathroom?"

- - Chris Cuomstain

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (mbhDw)

180 >>>>>This never occurred to me.


I went from a highly regimented
day/night. I got to work exactly at 7 every single day, for example. Not
659, not 701. Grad school at night.

Then I had a baby. But not
just any baby, the screaming baby from hell. Later on finding out he was
the ADHD poster child with other issues (fine and productive now, but
still dramaking.) I couldn't do both so I quit work and at that moment
my dad started dying from cancer. So I'd take my screaming baby from
hell and drive 6 hours as often as I could. I had no schedule, it was
organized around screaming baby from hell.


Panic. Lots and lots of panic.
.
.
.We had a demon cat that caused me tons of panic.........I would be petting him and he would turn and pounce on my hand shredding it with piranha teeth and claws. I never knew when that was going to happen.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (le7jz)

181 >>fear is healthy.


Someone needs to re-read Dune.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (eGfTO)

182 Yes the left is melting with panic. But it is about money. Their expectations of money have been disrupted. Their scams are looking very iffy at the moment.

Posted by: Lester at February 23, 2017 09:05 PM (8USec)

183 Panic can be a flight response from danger, so that's useful. The problem is that panic tends to scatter your mind, so during your escape, you might run into a plate glass window.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:05 PM (bpfzP)

184 Nobody gets out of this world alive.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:05 PM (LTHVh)

185 Panic serves a purpose, maybe - diversification of response to danger stimuli; in any real emergency, look at what everyone else is doing and DON'T DO THAT!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (lpjHy)

186 Interesting! I used to get either anxiety or panic attacks, myself, when I was in my twenties, and come to think of it, that did stop right around the time I got my current job where I have a set schedule that doesn't change from week to week.

And I never found flying difficult, so I guess it must've been panic.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (0OG8D)

187 154 this insanity from some quarters I honestly think is greatly magnified
by constant propaganda machine (the msm). no, the world is not in full
protest mode hating Trump, no the world is not ending
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 08:56 PM (c6/9Q)


I don't usually talk politics unless it's with people I'm broadly in agreement with. But so far I haven't seen anyone in my personal life who is melting down over Trump.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

188 >>Nobody gets out of this world alive.


Promises, promises.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (eGfTO)

189 162 In fairness, I don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun you.

I think that bear is gonna get both of us Grump.

I could probably do a 6.0 in the 40.
Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 08:59 PM (qUNWi)

That's what a gun is for. Not to shoot the bear, mind you - to kneecap the other guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (0mRoj)

190 It's nerves, sir! I need a safe space.

Posted by: that soldier that Patton yelled at at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (W8bn5)

191 You're trying to sweet talk me again, aren't you?
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (bpfzP)

That depends on whether it's working or not.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:07 PM (0mRoj)

192 Wow, Ace, I admire your ability to just 'throw it out there'. I threw you over the side when you said the blog might be better without Trumpers. Glad I came back. Even if it's just to lurk (mostly).

Maybe replace 'panic' and 'anxiety' with 'human'. It seems like you are 'grading' your behavior against a robotic standard. Everybody's broken. Everybody's f'd up. THAT'S the human condition.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 23, 2017 09:08 PM (PvCxa)

193

Nobody gets out of this world alive.

============

and...dont fear the reaper ?




Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:08 PM (c6/9Q)

194 "The reason the airport not only doesn't produce panic but rather produces calm is that the airport is a highly bureaucratized and regularized process full of queues and roped-off lines and expected events like checkpoints. Yes, it's unpleasant, yes, it's annoying, but -- here's the thing -- it's all calmingly predictable and boring."

I think this is why socialism is popular: it is like an enormous airport, "...calmingly predictable and boring." Someone else makes all the decisions for you, and you aren't responsible for your own life. Unfortunately, socialism is also similar to an airport in another way: when a "pilot" (read bureaucrat here) makes a bad mistake, lots of people suffer or die.

Posted by: Jeff Powell at February 23, 2017 09:09 PM (iV7/h)

195 I panic when I have this dream that I wake up one morning and I'm actually normal and Ace doesn't run threads about me any more.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at February 23, 2017 09:09 PM (qJhUV)

196 I panic whenever I'm not showing my dong to a tween girl. This damn intolerant society!

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at February 23, 2017 09:09 PM (urgYo)

197 Mostly I find flying boring, but I usually get some kind of bug from the recirculated air of scores of people's breath so I prefer not to do it. Last time I flew was before 9/11 so I'm sure I'd like it even less now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 23, 2017 09:09 PM (39g3+)

198 That depends on whether it's working or not.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:07 PM (0mRoj)
=====================

First you'll have to cough up another bottle of Pinot Noir. We'll talk then.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (bpfzP)

199 I'd really like Ace to read 'The Slow Regard of Silent Things' and then tell me how he liked it.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (eGfTO)

200 174 Keep Calm.

Chive On.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 09:03 PM (GKlaO)


I was at my dentist's office yesterday, and they had a sign that said "Keep Calm and Carry On." It looked kind of old. I should have asked him if it was a real sign from the Blitz or a reproduction.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (sdi6R)

201 Keep Calm
And
Punch Throats

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (0mRoj)

202 This is a 12-story block combining classical neo-Georgian features with the efficiency of modern techniques. The tenants arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:11 PM (LTHVh)

203 You...are gonna die.

Posted by: Telepsychic at February 23, 2017 09:11 PM (qUNWi)

204 fear is healthy.





Someone needs to re-read Dune.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:04 PM (eGfTO)

i'm afraid that is out the question

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:11 PM (c6/9Q)

205 Garrett, to be fair, Paul ended up killing billions of people IIRC, so maybe a little fear would have helped him, even though mommy was a Bene Gesserit.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (urgYo)

206

Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

“Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (IqV8l)

207 First you'll have to cough up another bottle of Pinot Noir. We'll talk then.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (bpfzP)

I'll try, but coughing up the first one really tore up my larynx.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (0mRoj)

208 >>> Wow. Great endorsement. Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:03 PM (Ivjge)

Seriously! Resume worthy high praise; congrats Garrett on being good people. What was the boss' response?

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (LiMbk)

209 dagny,

Not flinging feces is a sign of maturity. Congratulations.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (Ik1WR)

210 Throats are too hard to aim for.

I prefer punching heads.

Posted by: Telepsychic at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (qUNWi)

211
One day he asked him, and he replied, "Why would I panic? I'm with Garrett.'.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:02 PM (eGfTO)

++++

Psst, don't remind Ace about his "Book Club" venture.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (Ivjge)

212 It is a tumah.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (LTHVh)

213 I panic whenever I'm not showing my dong to a tween girl. This damn intolerant society!
Posted by: Chris Cuomo

YOU'RE TELLING ME!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at February 23, 2017 09:13 PM (S6Pax)

214 >>Keep Calm
And
Punch Throats


Hahaha.

I was just thinking that the only time I ever truly experienced overwhelming panic was in NYC, on 5th Ave at Noon.

And it came from the realization that I couldn't possibly kill everyone else before my plan to kill eveyone else failed.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:13 PM (eGfTO)

215 And it came from the realization that I couldn't possibly kill everyone else before my plan to kill eveyone else failed.

Try dynamite.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:13 PM (LTHVh)

216 here's the thing -- it's all calmingly predictable and boring."

not for me.

Herds and crowding are the one thing above all that will put me in full alert mode. I despise it. I hate it. It bugs my wife endlessly when I'll just stomp off a hundred yards to get away from a crowd in a mall or some similar stampede, but I just will not do it.

She's Asian and the cultural imperatives are different, and I've put up with it to some extent traipsing through Guangzhou, but it's really not my thing.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (TppKb)

217 #196: Oh, tell me about it, bro!

Oh, hey; someone's knocking on my door...

Huh? The FBI? What could they want? Sorry, gotta go; I'll call you later, Chris.

Posted by: Ant'ny Weiner at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (0OG8D)

218 OT a bit but I love the feel of airports . People coming and going from different places for all different reasons but mostly for positive reasons. Its a people watching paradise.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (IDPbH)

219 201 Keep Calm
And
Punch Throats
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:10 PM (0mRoj

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (GKlaO)

220 bears. best to stay away from them, they can climb, they can swim, they can run

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (c6/9Q)

221 Real life story. Two guys were running from a bear. It blew by the slower of the two to get the faster guy.
I guess the bear didn't agree with the joke.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

I like fast food.

Posted by: the Bear
****

Admit it, you thought the faster guy was Leo and you were...anxious IYKWIM.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (hVdx9)

222 Washriver, you can't expect ace to have a book club until he has grand, luxurious shelves to house those books!

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (urgYo)

223 Yeah...bears are dicks.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (qUNWi)

224 mine was blood relative

Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (wUROS)

225 Nothing beats Panic at Red Rocks.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (GKlaO)

226 That jerking, unsteady feeling of vertigo, as they realize there is, abruptly, no longer a face beneath their boot heel upon which to balance.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (sK2fh)

227 Warden owned the Wall Street Journal. Which means there'll be job openings for the Horde.

I'm looking forward to my weekly column on the Sasanian Empire or Islamic history or "Emperors Named Justinian". The Boulder Terlit Tardis, I think, will be my working title.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (6NnWN)

228 runner,

Exactly. Panic is dangerous, fear is healthy as long as fear does not mean fear of, for example, Trump concentration camps. Then fear is simply moonbatshit crazy, aka panic.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (Ik1WR)

229 >>What was the boss' response?


He was pretty much stymied as I was 17 and looked a lot like Jesus at the time.



Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (eGfTO)

230 206
Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump's critics: He's right.

Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump's characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

"Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden's current problems," Akesson and Karlsson wrote. "If anything, he understated them."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (IqV8l)


Have they been arrested for "hate speech" yet?

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (sdi6R)

231 Anyway, given all the agita and hysteria and the quite-frankly insane
kind of behavior I see in a lot of people at this moment, I wonder if
they've come down with a sort of existential panic, ====




I blame Alpha Centaurian Mind-Worms.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:17 PM (KgpWR)

232 Anxiety! at the Disco doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:17 PM (urgYo)

233
May I ask who it is that is in a panic politically? The left / statists? The #NeverTrumpers?

I don't get the sense that Trump supporters are in a panic.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (v1g1+)

234 i had a favorite one panel cartoon that I carried around in my wallet for many years until it disintegrated. It kept me from over analyzing people and their motives, and giving them too much leeway for obnoxious behavior because...'oh they have so much going on in their lives' blah blah.

A guy is on the psychiatrists couch.

The shrink is taking notes and says.

'You now Mr. Jones my secretary has a novel idea of what your issue may be. She thinks you're just an asshole.'

Yeah that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (L7t0A)

235 Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (Ik1WR)

Yes, irrational fear

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (c6/9Q)

236 BTW, Ace,
If they are in residency they are no longer med students. They are Docs.

Posted by: alphabaker at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (s+gIW)

237 183 Panic can be a flight response from danger, so that's useful. The problem is that panic tends to scatter your mind, so during your escape, you might run into a plate glass window.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:05 PM (bpfzP)

===========================

I used to suffer panic attacks in very stressful situations at work, and couldn't articulate things as I normally would.

Years later read about the reason: in the fight-or-flight response, all your blood rushes to your limbs so you run away -- and your cerebral cortex is deprived and doesn't function properly ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (mt8X9)

238 I blame Alpha Centaurian Mind-Worms.

Who wouldn't.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (LTHVh)

239 229 >>What was the boss' response?


He was pretty much stymied as I was 17 and looked a lot like Jesus at the time.



Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:16 PM (eGfTO)

Walking Dead Jesus?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (0mRoj)

240 Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump's critics: He's right.

Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump's characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

"Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden's current problems," Akesson and Karlsson wrote. 'If anything, he understated them."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:12 PM (IqV8l)




But but but some 20 something year old Swedish snowflake on Twitter says everything is just peachy and Trump is lying

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (auHtY)

241 Anxiety on the streets of Lonnn donnn...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:19 PM (6NnWN)

242 >>> bears. best to stay away from them, they can climb, they can swim, they can run. Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:14 PM (c6/9Q)

I feel you mi oso ese. No love!

Posted by: Mexican gangbangers getting over the wall at February 23, 2017 09:19 PM (LiMbk)

243 >>Walking Dead Jesus?


No, this was before easter.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:20 PM (eGfTO)

244 OT - oh lovely, finally, "religious" folks offering "refuge" to ..... illegal aliens, of course. Story in LAT linked at D-Rudge. Could have written it myself, just making up the names, it's so predictable.


Waiting to hear that ICE has updated its internal guidance to put churches back on the normal public places list for investigations and raids. This completely reasonable action will of course lead to more illiterate caterwauling from the anti-religious bigots who only care about religion if it means violating US law.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2017 09:21 PM (QDnY+)

245 This guy on Tucker,


Nancy Pelosi and James Carville's drug baby.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:22 PM (KgpWR)

246 233
May I ask who it is that is in a panic politically? The left / statists? The #NeverTrumpers?

I don't get the sense that Trump supporters are in a panic.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (v1g1+)


I'm certainly not. So far he has exceeded my expectations.


The Left is definitely losing their shit, though.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:22 PM (sdi6R)

247 232 Anxiety! at the Disco doesn't have the same ring to it.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:17 PM (urgYo)

It was just a vague sense of unease before they hit it big.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:22 PM (0mRoj)

248 The solidity and predictability of the world has been stolen out from beneath their feet, and now they're lurching about a bit madly and frenetically trying to grope on to something that might give them some balance and bearing.


I think there's a lot to be said for this. Look at all the sob pieces about how the Obama staffers suddenly had to start looking for jobs and they all assumed they would slide into the Clinton admin and now their entire network (and we're talking about people in their mid 20's to early 30's so also nearly their entire working life) is more or less useless and all those Mandarin class tests they had aced are useless.

Add in the cognitive dissonance of how every single person they knew and all their experts were wrong and it's such a psychic blow that we all go a little mad sometimes.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 23, 2017 09:23 PM (dEQP3)

249 Dr Jonathan Rape Rape Brown is getting spanked on Twitter:
http://tinyurl.com/grzdb4u

He claims that Islam is against slavery so never mind all the pro-slavery shit he'd said... to an audience he'd purged of kuffar.

Unfortunately on Twitter, even now, some actual scholars were fact-checking him.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:23 PM (6NnWN)

250 >>He claims that Islam is against slavery


...and the fucking of Goats.


But, mostly neither.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:25 PM (eGfTO)

251 Tucker can play for the WNBA!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:25 PM (IqV8l)

252 The solidity and predictability of the world has been stolen out from
beneath their feet, and now they're lurching about a bit madly and
frenetically trying to grope on to something that might give them some
balance and bearing.


====



Probably how 99% of schoolkids feel when they are told that they have to pretend "Jimmy" is actually a girl because he thinks he is.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:25 PM (KgpWR)

253 243 >>Walking Dead Jesus?


No, this was before easter.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:20 PM (eGfTO)

Well played.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (0mRoj)

254 OT: Is junior around?

A couple topics ago he mentioned a short story by Brandon Sanderson about aliens, FTL and losing battles to humanity.

I've read most of his Cosmere stuff but haven't heard of this one. What's the name? (And is it Cosmere?)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (+AnUx)

255 Tucker grilling some sort of talking mannequin

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (ANIFC)

256

"Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats ..."


Sweden Democrats??!!?

ooooooohh

Ur all under GAZE ...

Posted by: Lice Weasel, Minion of Jarles Chonson, Teh Mad Banner at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (FlRtG)

257 After reading Ace's post....I've been self employed for decades. I started my first company in my twenties and have rarely worked for anyone sincr.
I think that working for yourself stops a lots of this anxious type behavior.
You get used to making independent important transformational decisions and living with the consequences, good or bad.

Posted by: TexasJew at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (ZKsxQ)

258 I remember reading an article at Gates of Vienna awhile ago which said that Sweden is very much a totalitarian socialist state. The government has ironclad control of "legitimate" media, and it is very hard for dissenting opinions to be published.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

259 Tucker grilling some sort of talking mannequin

===

That mutant is the DNC's Science Advisor.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (KgpWR)

260 Tucker with the buttrape

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (nDcc3)

261 we just had a PSA from "1in6.org" about there being 1 in 6 men who are victims / survivors of child sexual abuse

Wonder if this Milo thing, and Salon (or was it Slate) running away from its pet pedobear, is having something to do with this raised awareness

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (6NnWN)

262 I've read most of his Cosmere stuff but haven't heard of this one. What's the name? (And is it Cosmere?)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (+AnUx)

That's what they make sweaters out of.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (0mRoj)

263 "We", meaning, Colorado Avalanche watchers tonight.

(it was on the screen next to the Rockets blowout I'm watching.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:28 PM (6NnWN)

264 >>A couple topics ago he mentioned a short story by Brandon Sanderson about aliens, FTL and losing battles to humanity.



Don't Buy Anything Sanderson Puts Out!!!

At least, not until that bastard finishes Book 3 in the Stormlight Archive.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:28 PM (eGfTO)

265
That mutant is the DNC's Science Advisor.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her!



And he is settled!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:28 PM (IqV8l)

266 Cue ball in the corner pocket....

Posted by: E.T. at February 23, 2017 09:28 PM (9n0dl)

267 I remember reading an article at Gates of Vienna
awhile ago which said that Sweden is very much a totalitarian socialist
state. The government has ironclad control of "legitimate" media, and
it is very hard for dissenting opinions to be published.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
=============================

They also confiscate 80% of your wages. Talk about rock/hard place.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (bpfzP)

268 The guy that Tucker just DESTROYED is a fucking monster.

And I'm sorry this might get me banned, these people cannot be reasoned with and must literally be destroyed.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (+lv+r)

269 OT: Is junior around?

A couple topics ago he mentioned a short story by Brandon Sanderson about aliens, FTL and losing battles to humanity.

I've read most of his Cosmere stuff but haven't heard of this one. What's the name? (And is it Cosmere?)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (+AnUx)



Sixth of the Dusk maybe? I love that story.

Men. And their questions.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (dEQP3)

270 my panic or lack of control is gone.

because i'm free

Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (wUROS)

271 Tucker with the buttrape


Posted by: thathalfrican
===

That Ferengi guy was on Tucker for his third time.

I don't think he is there for the hunting.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (KgpWR)

272 Don't let Sanderson put Book 3 of Stormlight out. It'll be so overwritten it'll collapse under its own mass and suck the Earth into a singularity

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:30 PM (6NnWN)

273 What do Swedes get in return ?

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:30 PM (c6/9Q)

274 Nobody gets out of this world alive.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:05 PM

Not even Hank

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 23, 2017 09:31 PM (PvCxa)

275 Posted by: Kreplach

===

Yep.

Evil is real.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:31 PM (KgpWR)

276 61. The older Generation, survived the Depression, then WW2.. then Korea.. some Viet Nam... they KNEW that things sucked, but they could get through them...

My dad quit biting his nails to the quick after being drafted into WWII--when he realized that all decisions were taken out of his hands. And this was after he had already put himself through college, had many jobs, gotten married and had two kids. Yes, they still drafted him.

Posted by: agathapagatha at February 23, 2017 09:31 PM (PtE6F)

277 Anxiety! at the Disco doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:17 PM

It was just a vague sense of unease before they hit it big.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:22 PM


I took the Genetical Twinlets to see P!@TheDisco last summer. I didn't know a thing about the band & expected to be bored spitless. I was pleasantly surprised; they put on a really good rock & roll show

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2017 09:31 PM (KCxzN)

278 I remember reading an article at Gates of Vienna awhile ago which said that Sweden is very much a totalitarian socialist state. The government has ironclad control of "legitimate" media, and it is very hard for dissenting opinions to be published.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)




No wonder why lefties like Comrade Bernie and Barry want to be like Sweden

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2017 09:31 PM (auHtY)

279 Sixth of the Dusk maybe? I love that story.

Men. And their questions.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (dEQP3)

I was thinking Sixth of the Dusk (favorite Brandon short story,) but it didn't really fit the rest of his description.

I did a quick google search but didn't find anything, and want to try and stay away from spoilers for the non-Cosmere stuff. (I'll get to those eventually.)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:32 PM (+AnUx)

280 And nothing is stopping individual schools from adopting their own policies and furthermore these fucking retards keep citing title IX and title nine specifically allows for segregation along sex criteria.

Again these people literally need to be destroyed, they cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be bargained with and they will never stop.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 23, 2017 09:32 PM (+lv+r)

281 I used to panic in the last eight years BUT, then I would buy a thousand rounds and the panic washed over me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2017 09:32 PM (cOHS7)

282 "That jerking, unsteady feeling of vertigo, as they realize there is,
abruptly, no longer a face beneath their boot heel upon which to
balance."

Man! We had to wait till well over 200 comments before someone decisively won the thread.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2017 09:33 PM (noWW6)

283
I was thinking Sixth of the Dusk (favorite Brandon short story,) but it didn't really fit the rest of his description.

I did a quick google search but didn't find anything, and want to try and stay away from spoilers for the non-Cosmere stuff. (I'll get to those eventually.)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:32 PM (+AnUx)



It's definitely not Sixth of the Dusk, I'm not sure what story it is.

And, yeah, Sanderson is already hitting King levels of editing schmediting.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 23, 2017 09:33 PM (dEQP3)

284 233 May I ask who it is that is in a panic politically? The left / statists? The #NeverTrumpers?

I don't get the sense that Trump supporters are in a panic.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2017 09:18 PM (v1g1+)



Well, my co workers are not happy. They are well along in the throes of Trump Derangement Syndrome. They are not panicking though. Just angry and believing EVERYTHING the MFM says. I'm pretty much token around here; White, conservative.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2017 09:33 PM (pY+s4)

285 Some of my biggest panic attacks come while I'm driving. I literally never know where I'm at. I have no idea what right/left mean. I have a left, and I have the other left. Don't laugh - I'm serious. I can get lost using detailed directions for routes that I've driven dozens of times. I get lost going to church. I only have to turn left coming out of my house, and go down that same road for 9 minutes, and there's the church.


So, getting lost makes me panic. Or maybe panicking gets me lost. Either way, I can often be found crying on the side of the road.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (bpfzP)

286 273 What do Swedes get in return ?
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:30 PM (c6/9Q)


They get to be prosecuted for "hate speech" is they criticize Islam or their government's immigration policy.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (sdi6R)

287 DNC guy saying on Tucker that "science is settled" that person decides his sex. Tucker says why not my race too.

Heh

Posted by: Carlos Danger at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (bQxkN)

288 Keep Calm

And

FUCK THAT THE SKY IS FALLING HOLY SHIT

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (urgYo)

289 Morocco Mole.

Yes, really.

https://goo.gl/1SD5QT

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (TppKb)

290 I got the impression Panic! at the disco would be good live. I wasn't ever impressed with the music so I figured the show and the fan-service is where it was at, for them.

See also, Beastie Boys, honestly. (Never cared for their music. In concert, good G*d they were good.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (6NnWN)

291 270 my panic or lack of control is gone.

because i'm free
Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 09:29 PM (wUROS)

+++
Very glad to hear.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:35 PM (Ivjge)

292 >>They also confiscate 80% of your wages. Talk about rock/hard place.


Posted by: grammie winger

My son did an exchange student thing in Sweden for one semester in college. He said no one works very hard since it doesn't get them anything. No stores open in the evening. Couldn't buy anything after 5PM.

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:35 PM (/Nite)

293 @287

So based on this new insanity the question must be asked...

Are anorexics fat?

And if not why not.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 23, 2017 09:35 PM (+lv+r)

294 286 273 What do Swedes get in return ?
Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:30 PM (c6/9Q)

They get to be prosecuted for "hate speech" is they criticize Islam or their government's immigration policy.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (sdi6R)


...and then theres that little treat called gang rape.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (L7t0A)

295 So, getting lost makes me panic. Or maybe panicking gets me lost. Either way, I can often be found crying on the side of the road.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:34 PM (bpfzP)

=====

I'm sorry Grammie. That must truly suck.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (YkWXu)

296 Geeze. Just watched Carlson confronting that nutball who's hand-wringing over the bathroom issue.

The guy is absolutely emblematic of why it is useless (except to provide an example) to argue with a Left/Liberal/SJW. They are unconstrained by logic, facts, or data. Only the ends matter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (ZO497)

297 273
What do Swedes get in return ?


Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:30 PM (c6/9Q)
==================

Cradle to grave. Uncle Sven will take care of you.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (bpfzP)

298 Cosmere was Kramer's first name but you don't find that out until Season 6.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (urgYo)

299 As far as choosing one's race, that kinda sorta happens in Judaism. And for that matter in France ('our ancestors, the Gauls...').

Judaism makes it really hard to convert exactly because the Jews are basically adopting you.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (6NnWN)

300 now look at Tucker, he does not look panicked. not at all.

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (c6/9Q)

301 IF you panic at the littlest thing, you would be dead from 1950 backward.

We have become victims of our own success. Sad,

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (cOHS7)

302 258 I remember reading an article at Gates of Vienna awhile ago which said that Sweden is very much a totalitarian socialist state. The government has ironclad control of "legitimate" media, and it is very hard for dissenting opinions to be published.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

===================

I've heard Dennis Prager lament several times, especially when speaking with the few actual conservatives still existing in Europe, that there's no equivalent to talk radio over there owing to all media being owned/controlled by the socialist governments (as you point out here).

Crazy ... many young people, here and especially abroad, tell him that the videos at Prager University are the FIRST TIME they've ever heard a non-Leftist idea on anything.

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:37 PM (mt8X9)

303 DNC guy saying on Tucker that "science is settled" that person decides his sex. Tucker says why not my race too.

Exactly.

Race is completely mutable. You are little bits of all kinds of things and some of them are probably debatable.

Gender is binary. Absent a couple possible rare birth defects, that's an absolute.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 09:37 PM (TppKb)

304 >>> A couple topics ago he mentioned a short story by Brandon Sanderson about aliens, FTL and losing battles to humanity.
I've read most of his Cosmere stuff but haven't heard of this one. What's the name? (And is it Cosmere?) Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2017 09:26 PM (+AnUx)

I finally bought Mistborn, took me long enough! I went to yet another writers conference recently where basically every panel waxed poetic over the brilliance of Sanderson's magic systems and stories. Finally will find out for myself the accuracy of the hype.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2017 09:37 PM (LiMbk)

305 Kreplach: BMI is unshakeable settled science. X and Y chromosomes are just societal norms and patriarchal whimsy.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:38 PM (urgYo)

306 grammie - Get the Rev. to spring for a GPS unit. That's my best advice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:38 PM (ZO497)

307 I'm sorry Grammie. That must truly suck.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (YkWXu)
==============================

It does. I have about three or four routes I've memorized. I usually don't get lost on them. Like, I can drive the 15 minute route to my daughter's house. Usually. Otherwise people drive me.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:38 PM (bpfzP)

308 JEM: Nonsense! I can tell a man's race clearly by the bumps on his skull!

Posted by: Progressives, on the cutting edge of science as always at February 23, 2017 09:39 PM (urgYo)

309 222 Washriver, you can't expect ace to have a book club until he has grand, luxurious shelves to house those books!
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (urgYo)

+++
He definitely has spots reserved for his two faves:
"The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "Moby Dick".

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:39 PM (Ivjge)

310 307 I'm sorry Grammie. That must truly suck.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (YkWXu)
==============================

It does. I have about three or four routes I've memorized. I usually don't get lost on them. Like, I can drive the 15 minute route to my daughter's house. Usually. Otherwise people drive me.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:38 PM (bpfzP)


oh grammie, you are so in my prayers. God bless.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at February 23, 2017 09:39 PM (ZKlDy)

311 grammie - Get the Rev. to spring for a GPS unit. That's my best advice.





Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:38 PM (ZO497)
=================

Oh, I have that. Plus the talking lady on my phone. Still. What can you do?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:39 PM (bpfzP)

312 ..recalculating..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:39 PM (LTHVh)

313 Cradle to grave. Uncle Sven will take care of you.


Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (bpfzP)

something fishy there, where do they get the kronas I wonder to sustain that

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:40 PM (c6/9Q)

314 So having an innie or an outie is up for grabs but 200 years in the future the earf will be an inferno is settled science?

How does this not end violently....and our side wins bigly.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 23, 2017 09:40 PM (cOHS7)

315 Thank you Cannibal Bob. That's very sweet. I appreciate that.



Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:40 PM (bpfzP)

316 >>my panic or lack of control is gone.

>because i'm free



!

Posted by: Tommy at February 23, 2017 09:40 PM (eGfTO)

317 169 That's very cool. I heard Hannity call into his own radio show today to talk about Colmes' passing, and I believe he said that Colmes had a past as a stand-up comic.

Is that true?

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:01 PM (mt8X9)


I hadn't heard that but it turns out that Colmes did get his start as a stand-up comic. If you search for "Alan Colmes comic" you can see quite a few videos and stories. Here's one:

http://bit.ly/2lfcYcK

My brief period of corresponding with him was a nice time. I'll miss him.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 09:41 PM (nvMvs)

318 - I'm serious. I can get lost using detailed directions for routes ...
------------

If I'm in an unfamiliar area, and I stop for directions, as soon as the local says "You can't miss it", I know for almost absolute certain that I am going to miss it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (ZO497)

319 something fishy there, where do they get the kronas I wonder to sustain that


Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:40 PM (c6/9Q)
=======================

I think they have about an 80% personal taxation rate, and also I think some industry is government controlled. They have a declining birthrate and an aging population. It's going to fall. And the muslims will pick through the ashes.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (bpfzP)

320 I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

321 "I took the Genetical Twinlets to see P!@TheDisco last summer. I didn't know a thing about the band & expected to be bored spitless. I was pleasantly surprised; they put on a really good rock & roll show"

The millenials are fine at songwriting and 'music'. It's comedy that they are killing.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (PvCxa)

322 When I don't have to do stuff for the government, it gives me more time to taste paste. And that is a good thing.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (cOHS7)

323 What is going on with the left today is a moral panic. Like the Salem witch trials they'll burn a lot more witches than exist.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (j1Wvr)

324 Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:37 PM (mt8X9)

*high five for Dennis Prager mention*


Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (nDcc3)

325 >>something fishy there, where do they get the kronas I wonder to sustain that


Posted by: runner

Used to be a very homogeneous society and their welfare programs were not abused. Their system worked because of that. Oddly, since they let the sand locusts in things don't look so good.

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (/Nite)

326 That's very cool. I heard Hannity call into his own radio show today to talk about Colmes' passing, and I believe he said that Colmes had a past as a stand-up comic.
---------------

Me too!

Posted by: Al Franken at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (ZO497)

327 I have actually received directions that included the instruction to 'turn right a mile before where the red barn used to be'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (LTHVh)

328 Awww grammie! *hugs*

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (LiMbk)

329 Ace, you'ew only 29. You'll work this out. Some of us are older than 29, and we've worked it out. Some of us are almost...32. Not yet! But getting close.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (MZcWR)

330
Morocco Mole.

Worked with Secret Squirrel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (IqV8l)

331 I don't think the Rockets are panicking or feeling anxiety tonight

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (6NnWN)

332 Cradle to grave. Uncle Sven will take care of you.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:36 PM (bpfzP)

=======================

Used to listen to a former Special Forces colonel on talk radio in the S.F. Bay Area in the 90's -- Geoff Metcalf -- who called it "from sperm to worm" ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (mt8X9)

333 I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
================

I'm giving up nihilism for Lent.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (bpfzP)

334 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (MZcWR)

I'm 32.

Thanks for making me feel really fucking old.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (nDcc3)

335 >>I have actually received directions that included the instruction to 'turn right a mile before where the red barn used to be'.

Posted by: Grump928(C

Was it delivered with a Maine accent?

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (/Nite)

336 Vermont.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:45 PM (LTHVh)

337 I think they have about an 80% personal taxation rate, and also I think some industry is government controlled. They have a declining birthrate and an aging population. It's going to fall. And the muslims will pick through the ashes.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (bpfzP)

Yep. And it's not uncommon for the more well-to-do to expatriate because of the insane tax burden.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:45 PM (0mRoj)

338 Used to be a very homogeneous society and their
welfare programs were not abused. Their system worked because of that.
Oddly, since they let the sand locusts in things don't look so good.


Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (/Nite)

----------------------
Dude, diversity is our strength, and past, and of course, octogenarian nekid swim parties. I could go on and on but yeah.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2017 09:45 PM (cOHS7)

339
I have actually received directions that included the instruction to 'turn right a mile before where the red barn used to be'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:43 PM (LTHVh)
===========

Well that's .... helpful.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:45 PM (bpfzP)

340 >>
Vermont.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

Ha, close.

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (/Nite)

341 318 - I'm serious. I can get lost using detailed directions for routes ...
------------

If I'm in an unfamiliar area, and I stop for directions, as soon as the local says "You can't miss it", I know for almost absolute certain that I am going to miss it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (ZO497)


Same here. I'm a great driver as long as I know where I'm going. Once I'm in an unfamiliar area, which is almost everywhere other than my daily route to and from work, it's white knuckle time.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (sdi6R)

342 http://bit.ly/2lfcYcK

My brief period of corresponding with him was a nice time. I'll miss him.


hah...that was pretty funny.

"It's nice to meet you...we should stop seeing each other."

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (qUNWi)

343 https://goo.gl/VPlQ2f

I am horribly disappointed in Tucker Carlson.

He skips breakfast.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (TppKb)

344 I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eGfTO)

345 Once I'm in an unfamiliar area, which is almost
everywhere other than my daily route to and from work, it's white
knuckle time.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (sdi6R)
======================

You and I should carpool.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:47 PM (bpfzP)

346 All you need is reload, reload, reload, all you every need is reload. Cue La Marsellasie.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 23, 2017 09:47 PM (Ik1WR)

347 334 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (MZcWR)

I'm 32.

Thanks for making me feel really fucking old.
Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:44 PM (nDcc3)

You can get off my lawn if it makes you feel any better.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

348 Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:47 PM (bpfzP)

You folks must not have a mapbook or a smart phone

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (nDcc3)

349 The disturbing thing is that the directions actually worked. Though I had to turn around and drive back a mile after I found the remains of the barn.

Vermont is where I was driving on a four land road, that turned into a two lane road, that then turned into a dirt road, and reversed after a couple of miles. All without explanation.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (LTHVh)

350 344 I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eGfTO)

+++

Oh, it's so very, very easy to do. Especially if you went the wrong direction on it is the first place.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Ivjge)

351 "once you passed the railroad tracks...you've gone too far."

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (qUNWi)

352 Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

*sniffs*

Thank you.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (nDcc3)

353 Oh, I have that. Plus the talking lady on my phone. Still. What can you do?
Posted by: grammie winger
----------------------

That's no lady, that's a cyborg nag.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (ZO497)

354


I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

trying to improve you outlook ?



Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (c6/9Q)

355 >>I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?

Posted by: garrett

My wife could get lost backing out of the driveway. Her GPS is in use most of the time. The downside is she would follow that thing leming-like over a cliff.

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (/Nite)

356 I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eGfTO)
============================

I get lost driving my grandson to pre-school. It's two roads. Two. And I've been driving one or the other of the three grandkids there for 5 years.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (bpfzP)

357 320 I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)


Nah, nihilism sucks. It's a total waste of time. Don't bother.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (sdi6R)

358 32 is where you finally hit mental puberty.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (qUNWi)

359 >>Oh, it's so very, very easy to do. Especially if you went the wrong direction on it is the first place.


But, you are on the road. You aren't lost, you just aren't where you would like to be.



Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (eGfTO)

360 That's no lady, that's a cyborg nag.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (ZO497)

It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop - EVER - until you are at your intended destination!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (0mRoj)

361 you can't really screw things up, unless you do something really dumb like

show up a day late (which I've done).

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (NBHj5)

362 I got stuck on the MTA once.

Posted by: Charlie at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (ZO497)

363 32 is where you finally hit mental puberty.


Your illusions drop.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (LTHVh)

364
Vermont is where I was driving on a four land road, that turned into a two lane road, that then turned into a dirt road, and reversed after a couple of miles. All without explanation.
Posted by: Grump928(C)


How does a road reverse?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (IqV8l)

365 I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.

Posted by: Insomniac
===

How are you at screaming and burning effigies?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (KgpWR)

366 You folks must not have a mapbook or a smart phone


Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (nDcc3)
=========================

Oh I have a smart phone. And a dumb head.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (bpfzP)

367 >>Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Ivjge)


And you have no excuse! You have a River AND Mountains on the horizon.

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:51 PM (eGfTO)

368 I got lost just the other night. Simply driving two miles to the store.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:51 PM (Ivjge)

369 I got stuck on the MTA once.

Posted by: Charlie at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (ZO497)
=================

Did you ever return?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:51 PM (bpfzP)

370 I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eGfTO)

it happens....

Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (c6/9Q)

371 Hannity doing a tribute to Colmes on Tucker.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (KgpWR)

372 When you turn 40 is when you realize that you will not, in fact, every play in the major leagues.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (LTHVh)

373 >>I got lost just the other night. Simply driving two miles to the store.

Posted by: washrivergal

My grandma did that. We put her in a home.

Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (/Nite)

374 367 >>Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Ivjge)


And you have no excuse! You have a River AND Mountains on the horizon.
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:51 PM (eGfTO)

+++

Mountains are a huge help. However, being socked in with rain most of the time makes them invisible.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (Ivjge)

375 Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (KgpWR)

Would the other side ever do this for one of us?

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (nDcc3)

376 once you passed the railroad tracks...you've gone too far.

Turn before the railroad tracks, where that old farm used to be. You'll reach a fork in the road- take it.

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (29QcC)

377
Hannity doing a tribute to Colmes on Tucker.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her!


I changed the channel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (IqV8l)

378 Gah, just read JonahNRO's Milo attack. His theme is, Let's not lose our moral compass for the sake of #winning.

In other words, let's be reassured while the Left takes over all of it, that we can hold our heads high because we are better people than they are.

Me, I notice that "morally superior" got me 8 years of Obamacare and Dems on TV blogs calling me a Nazi.

I think November 8 I took a swan dive off my moral heights, and swimming in the #winning pool, sure is fine.

Posted by: voiceover at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (xeok9)

379 373 >>I got lost just the other night. Simply driving two miles to the store.

Posted by: washrivergal

My grandma did that. We put her in a home.
Posted by: Aviator at February 23, 2017 09:52 PM (/Nite)

+++

ROTFLMAO

Posted by: washrivergal at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (Ivjge)

380 When you turn 40 is when you realize that you will not, in fact, every play in the major leagues.

heh...disillusioning.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (qUNWi)

381 'Did you ever return?'


His fate is still unlearned.

Posted by: Ashhole hat vendor at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (BO/km)

382
Would the other side ever do this for one of us?


Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend

===

It would require compassion and conscience therefore , no.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:54 PM (KgpWR)

383 My wife speaks 4 languages but english is sometimes difficult...she also will not use gps for some reason.

Its funny when she gets lost... When she calls to ask directions i will ask... where are you ? she will say "i am here"... Hilarity ensues

Posted by: E.T. at February 23, 2017 09:54 PM (9n0dl)

384 When I was younger, if the Devil had come to me with a contract that said I could play one year in The Show, but then I would have my right arm torn off in a freak pitching machine accident, I would have asked 'Where do I sign?'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:54 PM (LTHVh)

385 His fate is still unlearned.

Posted by: Ashhole hat vendor at February 23, 2017 09:53 PM (BO/km)
=====================

He just needs one more nickel.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:55 PM (bpfzP)

386 From Wiki:
Atlanta Braves pitcher Pascual Pérez became widely associated with I-285 after he got lost on it while trying to drive to a game. On August 19, 1982, Perez, who had just received his first U.S. driver's license, decided to drive himself to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium (where the Braves played their home games at the time), where he was scheduled to start that evening's game against the Montreal Expos. He was unable to find the proper exit and circled the city several times before running out of gas and calling for help. When Pérez failed to arrive at the stadium by game time, the Braves called upon veteran pitcher Phil Niekro to make the emergency start. The Braves, who had been mired in a 2-19 slump, won the game, kicking off a 13-2 winning streak which carried the team to the National League West division title. The team subsequently made for Pérez a warm-up jacket with the notation "I-285" in place of his uniform number. The humor of the incident was credited for helping to improve the morale of the team and breaking the losing streak.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:55 PM (ZO497)

387 Clients pull this shit all the time...

"But, how will we get back to the truck?"

G : 'We won't. Someone will bring the truck to us.'

"Where will the truck be!?"

G : 'My guess is : Downstream.'

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (eGfTO)

388 It would require compassion and conscience therefore , no.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:54 PM (KgpWR)

====

We think they are wrong. They think we are evil incarnate. They play for keeps.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (YkWXu)

389 I'm not quite sure what this post is about

It's about being genuine and credible. Just kidding, it's an interesting one.

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (29QcC)

390 I believe in Ace's dissociation theory. The hysteria of the response to L'Orange is unprecedented in my lifetime. So many had found their Savior in BHO. They believed they were heading for the Promised Land of Imagine. Of course this promised land is Utopia--literally nowhere. Trump shattered their orgasmic illusion. Panic ensued.

Posted by: Caliban at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (3GFMN)

391 He just needs one more nickel.
Posted by: grammie winger
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Through the open window she hands "Charlie your sandwich!.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (ZO497)

392 Whose home, Aviator?

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (urgYo)

393 Atlanta Braves pitcher Pascual Pérez became widely associated with I-285
after he got lost on it while trying to drive to a game.

==

That was 1982?????

I am old. So, so old.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (KgpWR)

394 354


I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

trying to improve you outlook ?



Posted by: runner at February 23, 2017 09:49 PM (c6/9Q)

Yep. Power of positive thinking and all that.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:57 PM (0mRoj)

395 'Where do I sign?'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2017 09:54 PM (LTHVh)
=======================

Someday women will be allowed to play in the MLB, and I will be first in line. If they decline due to my age, I will cry sexism and ageism.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:57 PM (bpfzP)

396 Loved watching the Neikro Brothers pitch!

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:57 PM (eGfTO)

397 ont

Posted by: concrete girl at February 23, 2017 09:58 PM (wUROS)

398 Interesting. Fascinating even.

But it still doesn't explain Don Lemon.

Posted by: Simplemind at February 23, 2017 09:58 PM (ZuGkg)

399 Grammie, living in Utah has spoiled me from living anywhere else, because I have the mountains to orient me. When I have to drive somewhere else, no obvious visual natural landmarks makes me antsy.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2017 09:58 PM (sIznr)

400 He just needs one more nickel.

Posted by: grammie winger

-------------



Through the open window she hands "Charlie your sandwich!.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (ZO497)
==================

When I was a kid, that drove me absolutely crazy. Why wouldn't his wife put a nickel in his sandwich bag ??

Posted by: grammie winger at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (bpfzP)

401 186 And I never found flying difficult, so I guess it must've been panic.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at February 23, 2017 09:06 PM (0OG8D)


People subject to panic attacks are triggered by different things and those things often change over time.

For example, even seeing heights on television can induce a reaction ranging from nervous to a full-blown panic attack.

My wife doesn't mind heights but is extremely fearful of thunderstorms and tornadoes. It doesn't help that we live near Dallas. I, on the other hand, love thunderstorms.

The biology of panic attacks is very interesting.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (nvMvs)

402 Loved watching the Neikro Brothers pitch!
==


Phil was the original Wild Thing.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (KgpWR)

403 http://bit.ly/2lfcYcK

My brief period of corresponding with him was a nice time. I'll miss him.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 23, 2017 09:41 PM (nvMvs)

=================

Thanks for that link. Another interesting tidbit from that story:

"And interestingly enough Alan's wife is Dr. Jocelyn Elise Crowley, the sister of conservative radio and TV personality and political pundit Monica Crowley ..."

Huh.

Posted by: ShainS at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (mt8X9)

404 We think they are wrong. They think we are evil incarnate. They play for keeps.
Posted by: Flyboy
-----------

Compare the expressions of condolence when one of 'them' passes away with the vile vitriol when Reagan, Thatcher, or any other conservative passes away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 09:59 PM (ZO497)

405 But I do kind of notice this same shift from the predictable and routine to the unpredictable and unexpected

A lot of us noticed it in 2008. It was called unemployment-in-a-world-gone-mad.

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2017 10:00 PM (NBHj5)

406 344 I don't understand how you can get lost on a road?
Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2017 09:46 PM (eGfTO)


I don't get lost on a road, but intersections are a bitch.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

407 >>I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)

You cannot take it up, my friend.

Posted by: Raskolnikov at February 23, 2017 10:00 PM (3GFMN)

408 When I was a kid, that drove me absolutely crazy. Why wouldn't his wife put a nickel in his sandwich bag ??
Posted by: grammie winger
--------------

Do not tamper with the narratives of our ancients.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 10:01 PM (ZO497)

409 If there's a wrong turn to be made, I'll make it. Guaranteed.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2017 10:02 PM (sdi6R)

410 >>Loved watching the Neikro Brothers pitch!

That's racist.

Posted by: Cornell West at February 23, 2017 10:03 PM (3GFMN)

411 "The biology of panic attacks is very interesting."

I've been told that there's no measurable physiological difference from panic and something we find very exciting, like riding a roller coaster.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2017 10:03 PM (97XyN)

412 How are you at screaming and burning effigies?
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 23, 2017 09:50 PM (KgpWR)

Fire is my dear friend.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 10:03 PM (0mRoj)

413 A lady once asked Daniel Boone if in his travels into the wilderness he had ever been lost.

Boone replied, "Lost? Well, no. I was once bewildered for three days, but I've never been lost."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2017 10:03 PM (ZO497)

414 Life is just a series of airports. Then you die.

Posted by: Lily(formerly of Hot Air) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at February 23, 2017 10:11 PM (vfC/C)

415 320 I'm thinking about taking up nihilism.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2017 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
----------------------
It's easy! There's nothing to it!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 23, 2017 10:15 PM (Nox3c)

416 We think they are wrong. They think we are evil incarnate. They play for keeps.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 23, 2017 09:56 PM (YkWXu)

The left is insane, and has a form of insanity that drives them to choose evil time after time.

Their insanity starts with a simple error, a belief that there is no objective truth in politics or human events. The idea that there is no objective truth is self refuting, if it's true, it is also false. These people aren't nearly as smart as they think they are.

Their political relativism strips them of the ability to judge whether one idea is better than another. Success can only be random chance, in their worldview. Western Civilization has succeeded time after time, in an unbroken chain, despite serious reversals, over millenia. They can only conclude that it's done so by stealing the successes due to others.

It drives them into a rage. Everything that has failed in the great contest of ideas is a victim, and those that are the most oppositional and have failed the hardest are the biggest victims. We value children, they push abortion and try normalize pedophilia. We hate criminals, they coddle and protect them. We value freedom, they champion the slavery of the whole human race to an almighty state, while thinking they are standing up for the oppressed and striking a blow for equality.

They are a compass that finds true South and labels it North, every time, without fail. Until some means of curing them of their insanity, we must regard them as we do every other criminally insane person: A danger that needs to be stopped and restrained from following their dangerous whims.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 23, 2017 10:22 PM (X52ZZ)

417 Just wanna put this out there in case it helps anyone...
Sometimes chronic anxiety and panic attacks are caused by a B vitamin deficiency, or at least exacerbated by it.

A friend of mine had her anxiety attacks unexpectedly drop by about 2/3's after she started taking vitamins regularly.
As for me, I haven't outright panicked since I nearly drowned as a little kid. I could see a serious health problem in one of my kids sending me there, though...
*shudder*

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 23, 2017 10:23 PM (adsVM)

418 Those disturbed people on the left were promised they would drink the kool-aid and their savior from HaleBop would appear and the world would finally have socialist peace. Hillary let them down, no heaven on earth ... they are discombobulated. DISCOMBOBULATED.

Their ministers and priests all promised them Hillary would win by 70 EVs, all government services would get bigger. Now Trump is in charge, and he is figuratively chopping heads off the high priests that are in charge of telling us how to think ... the media and the DNC.

Their world is fake and/or corrupt. But some believed, and are now angry and sad, in grief over an imaginary Lightbringer and Queen that fizzled.

the end

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2017 10:27 PM (YMJtx)

419 #417: I'd like to add something to this...

Don't bother with old-fashioned vitamin tablets. Most of those will just pass right through you, untouched by your digestive system.

Go for gummi vitamins. You actually eat them, and digest them. It's a vastly superior delivery system.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at February 23, 2017 10:34 PM (0OG8D)

420 Could this also be why totalitarian systems are so attractive to some people? How many Russians suffered withdrawal when they had to make their own choices?

Posted by: TB at February 23, 2017 10:36 PM (wNx6K)

421 Great post, Ace if you are still around. Went through the sense of "anomie" right out of college. More friends and great stuff to do than time, every night a party, to being plunged into wondering if I was going to even survive financially. The real world, when it hits, can be a bit daunting, to say the least.

As the commercial with Jason Day, pro golfer, says, I had to learn to face the fear and walk through it. Not as easy as it sounds.

Could discuss for hours, but bottom line, you've hit the nail on the head.

Posted by: RM at February 23, 2017 10:42 PM (2MdLo)

422 The times I've felt panic was when I didn't see a way to succeed. What I had been doing was done. There was no more business in the sector (there was, but it was in steep decline). Prayer helped. In praying, I thought through what my problem was and what I wanted, a path upon which to focus my energy. Today's youth have been sold a bill of goods--there is no God but the government. And they just lost the government. The fact that makes them panic means they can't see an acceptable way forward. Normally, I would say they will figure it out. But they trained this generation to be helpless, so, maybe not.

Posted by: IanDeal at February 23, 2017 11:18 PM (lOl/I)

423 TB at February 23, 2017 10:36 PM

I think you're onto something. Alexis de Toqueville proposed that non-governmental associations (family, religion, voluntary civic organizations, local government participation) once gave Americans the sense of security to resist "soft despotism". Because a capitalist free market economy is full of uncertainty for individuals.


Posted by: KT at February 23, 2017 11:44 PM (qahv/)

424 Everyone's long since moved onto the ONT, but Ace - posts like this one are why I started lurking in the first place. Bullseye.

Posted by: iwuzhere at February 23, 2017 11:48 PM (GRNzr)

425 >>>
I've been told that there's no measurable physiological difference from panic and something we find very exciting, like riding a roller coaster.

i have no idea if that's true, but trust me, they sure the hell feel different.

One thing is that when you have an external stressor (a roller coaster ride) you know exactly why your heart is beating 155 bpm. Your body's actions against it aren't scary. They match the external stimulus. You get it. It's *supposed* to happen.

When your heart starts beating at 160 bpm for no reason and you're thinking you're probably going to die, you know, different.

On a roller coaster, you also know the ride ends in six minutes and then you're gonna laugh and say "That was great!"

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 12:28 AM (8rNrN)

426 420 Could this also be why totalitarian systems are so attractive to some people? How many Russians suffered withdrawal when they had to make their own choices?
Posted by: TB at February 23, 2017 10:36 PM (wNx6K)


I sadly co-sign this. I lived in Baghdad from 1988-90, and the fear in the air, even for foreigners there on working visas (me), was such a part of life you didn't notice until you were out of Iraqi airspace that you'd spent x amount of time, clenching. I drank and smoked more in two years than in my entire adult life so far.

Yet postwar it was an even more anxious time, in many ways.
Pisses me off to this day, even though intellectually I get it.

Posted by: voiceover at February 24, 2017 01:22 AM (xeok9)

427 In other words, the sturm und drang of leaving childhood behind and becoming an adult.

Posted by: jbspry at February 24, 2017 03:15 AM (IhKmM)

428
"...a tale well designed to keep you in... anxiety"
* organ tremulo *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at February 24, 2017 03:20 AM (v1g1+)

429 completely on board with this. I am never so placid as when I'm in an airport. I have butterflies up until the moment I get inside, however.

Posted by: dw at February 24, 2017 06:03 AM (rf++V)

430 Societal "panic"?

"Alt." Rapture?

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2017 04:59 PM (nIUnC)

431 What this thread needs is more cowbell!

Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at February 24, 2017 05:35 PM (DMUuz)

432 1st....

WTH?!

Posted by: ghbucky at February 24, 2017 05:36 PM (D2q91)

433 Since you probably won't scroll through the comments all the way at the beginning, I will repost what I said at #17:

I'm just going to go with they are a bunch of fucktards.

Simpler.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2017 05:39 PM (tewYv)

434 Walker Percy's _Lost in the Cosmos_ deals with this topic a bit Ace.

Without a construction of the world and your position in it, which was once provided by say Christianity (or Totemism etc.), you become unmoored. I think Percy calls it something like launched into orbit. I don't think he stressed panic as a result, maybe just feeling disconnected and attempting to "re-enter" from orbit by doing various things.

It's a weird book, but I liked it.

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 24, 2017 05:40 PM (yqvys)

435 What this thread needs is more cowbell!


Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at February 24, 2017 05:35 PM


I think ace needs to explore the space. Really explore the space.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 24, 2017 05:40 PM (p+Wdc)

436 Reruns? It's not even April yet!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 24, 2017 05:41 PM (YEelc)

437 Anxiety and panic are good for you. If we didn't have them, we'd turn into brain-dead, unaware vegetables. You know, hippies.

Posted by: pep at February 24, 2017 05:41 PM (LAe3v)

438 >>Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at February 24, 2017 05:35 PM (DMUuz)


SCREAM FOR ME LONG BEACH!!

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 05:42 PM (ktw54)

439 What's old is new again?

Posted by: lindarising schadenbutton! at February 24, 2017 05:42 PM (JNDQi)

440 You have very little control over your own fate.

This is pretty much baked into our existence but for me, I try to develop strategies that minimize loss of control over my situation and surroundings. I do not like that feeling one bit. I suppose that makes me a "control freak" but it seeks to work for me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2017 05:42 PM (Tyii7)

441 I'm paniced Obamacare will not be repealed.

Murkowski in now saying no

Fucking worthless GOP

Posted by: Utopia at February 24, 2017 05:42 PM (E+76W)

442 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 05:44 PM (W8bn5)

443 Murkowski in now saying no



F***ing worthless GOP

Posted by: Utopia


It's a bit of a reach to blame the entire GOP for her idiocy.

Posted by: pep at February 24, 2017 05:44 PM (LAe3v)

444 I panic every day until I look down and realize I'm hermaphroditic.

Posted by: pencil-necked progressive geek at February 24, 2017 05:45 PM (1CroS)

445 Also the concept of Shalom is peace, connectedness, tranquility. So lack of that would produce panic?

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 24, 2017 05:45 PM (yqvys)

446 Some people specifically asked to post this so that the "day-walkers" could see it.

I thought the daywalkers clocked out at 1700 EST.


The cause of panic, it is speculated, is going from an environment in which one's hours are generally accounted for each day, and the days tend to unfold with predictability and stability, maybe even a dash of boredom. And then moving from a regime in which one's hours are regularly scheduled, and one knows more or less what is expected of one (that is, one knows there's going to be some ugly cramming at the end of a semester), and then moving to a circumstance in which one's hours are erratic, unpredictable, and full of uncertainty, and even the standards of what constitutes "good work" are unknowable.

This sounds like "all life after college sucks", for which a good case can be made.

I have had a sine curve of a "career" with high highs and low lows. Even looking back at what were objectively successes by anyone's standards I didn't have a day without fear that it would all go away.

I believe I am the sort of person who would have been well served with a generous inheritance which would allow me to flourish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 05:46 PM (gIRsn)

447
Since I didn't feel the need to comment on this the first time, I don't feel negligent in not commenting a second time.

Airports and flying don't scare me. Abdul, sitting next to me with a shoe full of C-4 explosives scares me.

Looks like I did comment.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 05:47 PM (ZFUt7)

448
I believe I am the sort of person who would have been well served with a generous inheritance which would allow me to flourish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 05:46 PM (gIRsn)

+++

You and me both, pal.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2017 05:47 PM (Ivjge)

449 This sounds like "all life after college sucks", for which a good case can be made.

Nope. I'm far, far happier now then I was in college. The only really good thing about it is all the young wimmenz. And the drinking. And not working very hard. ...

I'd like to change my earlier answer.

Posted by: pep at February 24, 2017 05:48 PM (LAe3v)

450 443 Murkowski in now saying no



F***ing worthless GOP

Posted by: Utopia

It's a bit of a reach to blame the entire GOP for her idiocy.
Posted by: pep at February 24, 2017 05:44 PM (LAe3v)




Considering GOP leadership let her pull that write in stunt to keep her senate seat, not really

Posted by: Utopia at February 24, 2017 05:48 PM (E+76W)

451 A lot of the pre-airport anxiety I experience is more a form of irritation. Getting to and from somewhere on an airplane used to be so much easier. Then came 9-11.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2017 05:49 PM (Tyii7)

452 Your airport is another man's government.

Some people can't handle responsibility.

Posted by: Xi at February 24, 2017 05:49 PM (fi5nC)

453 This sounds like "all life after college sucks", for which a good case can be made.

Nope. I'm far, far happier now then I was in college. The only really good thing about it is all the young wimmenz. And the drinking. And not working very hard. ...

I'd like to change my earlier answer.

Posted by: pep


I went to a really progtarded college 88-92. Considering how beaten down I've been in the intervening quarter century, that proposition would still be tempting.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at February 24, 2017 05:50 PM (9krrF)

454
Fear of snakes = hiss panic?


Posted by: Toad-O at February 24, 2017 05:50 PM (cct0t)

455 You call that panic? This is a panic.

Posted by: Atlantic wreck diver low on air at 200 ft. at February 24, 2017 05:50 PM (HgMAr)

456 I have complete faith in modern aircraft.


It's the constant nagging possibility of falling 40,000 feet to my death that gets me.

Posted by: Hope Solo's Butthole at February 24, 2017 05:51 PM (qUNWi)

457 Shut your whore mouth Hope Solo's butthole.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 05:51 PM (qUNWi)

458 I had a friend that use to have panic attacks and her husband once told me that if she ever had one while with me, I was to ask her to count backwards from 100 by 7's. So, 100, 93, 86, 79, etc. I guess it refocuses and reorders mental processes or something.

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 05:52 PM (Enq6K)

459 Spellcheck doesn't like "butthole".

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 05:52 PM (qUNWi)

460 Just an idea. I'm not married to it or anything. But I do kind of notice this same shift from the predictable and routine to the unpredictable and unexpected, and I know that sense of dislocation produces at least one psychic malady. I wonder if there are other versions of it.


-----------------


Kate Upton nude in my bed begging for it and I can't get it up.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 05:53 PM (Fmupd)

461 I didn't get this definition of panic before and still don't after reading it again. Sounds like some folks just need to get a grip.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2017 05:53 PM (BO/km)

462 personal panic/anxiety story:

I'm transitioning into being fully self-employed. There is anxiety there, but my dad was self-employed and my mom was our family CFO, and a very good one. I am fully prepared for all kinds of bad things to happen to me financially. I have not had a guaranteed check every week/ every two weeks since 1994.

I have a friend who has always worked with a steady paycheck. When her husband had to take a lower paying job, she went into full panic mode because she could not/did not want to deal with the financial implications. She spent a lot of time complaining about her finances, not thinking about the fact that she gets a check every week, gets paid days off, gets paid health insurance and gets paid vacations. I get none of those things. She was panicked, and became very, very fixated on money.

So I suppose that if there is change, but if the change is within your wheelhouse, it's not going to panic you. You might be anxious, but not in a panic.

But.. if the change is something you've never even considered (husband taking a much lower paying job, Hillary not winning the election) it could set you off.



Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 24, 2017 05:54 PM (J5mC3)

463 431
What this thread needs is more cowbell!


Posted by: The Bruce Dickinson at February 24, 2017 05:35 PM (DMUuz)

Yes, the Trooper would be truly epic with some cowbell.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 24, 2017 05:55 PM (7N6ox)

464 F***ing worthless GOP

-
The science is settled.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 05:55 PM (Nwg0u)

465 If there's some problem with an airplane, that's someone else's fault, not yours, and you can't be blamed for it.
--

In many ways, isn't this the story of the SMOD?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 24, 2017 05:55 PM (4bKiB)

466 Murkowski

How the hell does Alaska warrant two Senators? The entire population of the state could fit in the stadiums of the Eagles and the Nittany Lions, on game day, without even including the prepubescent boys waiting in the showers at PSU.

[i[I pre-apologize to PSU alumni.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 05:56 PM (ZFUt7)

467 I didn't get this definition of panic before and still don't after reading it again. Sounds like some folks just need to get a grip.
--

Short explanation: Some people are high strung.

/and yes, they do need to get a grip.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 24, 2017 05:56 PM (J5mC3)

468 This thread reminds me--must put The Great Firewall back up--lest the people panic.


Year of the Coq.

Posted by: Xi at February 24, 2017 05:57 PM (fi5nC)

469 Mel Brooks' High Anxiety is the definitive treatise on the subject.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 05:58 PM (qUNWi)

470 I am on FBN so you should panic.

Posted by: Jenny Beth Martin Needs A New Benz at February 24, 2017 05:59 PM (6LwXe)

471
"...a tale well designed to keep you in... anxiety"
* organ tremulo *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2017 05:59 PM (UGWs/)

472 I too have been self employed since the early nineties. Anxiety, stress, worry, yes. Panic, never.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2017 05:59 PM (BO/km)

473 Speaking of panic, I felt it on election night. If I were a creative sort, like Shoe0nHead, I'd do a film of the Hillary Witch Project, complete with mucus rivulets running from my nostrils as I'm contemplating Hillary as president. I'm not entirely happy with the way things are going so far, but at least I'm not panicking. I am "sanguine".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 05:59 PM (W8bn5)

474 Short explanation: Some people are high strung.

/and yes, they do need to get a grip.



That's like telling a depressed person to snap out of it.

"Hey, you're good looking and healthy and people love you, you have nothing to be depressed about." Except humans don't work that way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:01 PM (gIRsn)

475 Spellcheck doesn't like "butthole".

Posted by: eleven


There's an occasional lesbian spellcheck here, who doesn't like dick.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 06:01 PM (W8bn5)

476 466 Murkowski

How the hell does Alaska warrant two Senators? The entire population of the state could fit in the stadiums of the Eagles and the Nittany Lions, on game day, without even including the prepubescent boys waiting in the showers at PSU.

[i[I pre-apologize to PSU alumni.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 05:56 PM (ZFUt7)

------------------

Rhode Island would fit comfortably inside of DFW airport. Probably inside most Texas high school stadiums.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 24, 2017 06:02 PM (kTF2Z)

477
Gloom, dispair and agony on me (ooooooh!)
Deep dark depression, excessive misery (aaaaaaaah!)
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all (oooooooh!)
Gloom, dispair and agony on me!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2017 06:02 PM (UGWs/)

478 Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:01 PM (gIRsn)

Are you depressed, Bandersnatch?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:02 PM (fDdVG)

479 I kinda enjoy surfing the chaos of life myself.

La-di-da. La-di-da.


But, once you get married and have kids, well it's a different ballgame.

Kids are all about the scheduling and maintaining a stable environment.

Not that I ever panicked about it. That's just not me.

Sort of boring actually- the sameness that is.



Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2017 06:02 PM (vZ9Fw)

480 I am "sanguine".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear


Just keep reminding yourself that Hillary Clinton will not be deciding the direction of the Supreme Court. Ever.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 06:03 PM (ZFUt7)

481
Rhode Island would fit comfortably inside of DFW airport. Probably inside most Texas high school stadiums.


RI is smaller in area than the county in which I grew up.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2017 06:03 PM (UGWs/)

482 If there's some problem with an airplane, that's someone else's fault, not yours, and you can't be blamed for it.

-
There is a scene the book Atlas Shrugged in which a train is rerouted for some reason and several people know that a tunnel the train must go through is too long for the passenger train to go through (because poison exhaust gasses would build up or something, I have forgotten). Rather than stopping or warning the train, they all scheme to explain why it won't be their fault. That scene hit me hard because I recognized some of myself in it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 06:04 PM (Nwg0u)

483 Only fairly recently had what I guess is panic attack, a situation of a unknown that I own but feeling I have no control and its probably a disaster.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:04 PM (HDU3V)

484 Rhode Island would fit comfortably inside of DFW airport.



DFW Airport sits on more land than the island of Manhattan.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2017 06:05 PM (WFe5M)

485 That's like telling a depressed person to snap out of it.


Just buy them a drink.

Posted by: Grump928(C) ProLite Elite 2200XL at February 24, 2017 06:05 PM (LTHVh)

486 Note: I'm lighting up Jake Tapper about a claim he made to me twice about his refusal to cover the #EchoChamber story -- first he claimed he didn't trust the reporter, then he claimed he just didn't do media stories, just plain did not do them at all, and i should contact the archliberal spinner Brian Stelter.

i told him he could not use the excuse that he didn't trust the reporter in the Echo Chamber story because the principles had confirmed the quotes but were just claiming some weaselly "context" missing from them. I provided him a link to prove this.

Months after that, another media story broke, which he did cover. I think this was the "Fake News" period, but I can't be sure. I asked him again: So now that you ARE doing media stories, think you can do Echo Chamber?

Amazingly, he once again claimed he didn't trust the reporter -- despite the previous discussion just being twenty DMs above. I guess he didn't bother to read the link, or thought it was safe to go back to his old talking points.

Then he once again told me he doesn't do media stories.

Well, he's doing media stories like crazy now, isn't he? He even had to tweet about Milo's YouTube videos -- a media story if there ever was one, and surely not as important as the Ben Rhodes one.

Anyway, I'm telling you this because I'm making this prediction, and I want it on the record. but I do not want him to see it:

I predict he'll start tweeting about dead vets at some point tonight. It's a pattern. He does that when he needs to protect the brand.

Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious, and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives Can Trust (TM), he starts posting about dead vets, to say, "See, cons? I love the military! Go 'Merica!"

Bank on it: he's done it almost every time before and he'll do it again.

I just want this time-stamped and noted for the record.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM (8rNrN)

487 >>RI is smaller in area than the county in which I grew up.

We're not smaller we're just more selective.


Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM (/tuJf)

488 How the hell does Alaska warrant two Senators? The entire population of
the state could fit in the stadiums of the Eagles and the Nittany Lions,
on game day, without even including the prepubescent boys waiting in
the showers at PSU.



[i[I pre-apologize to PSU alumni.

If you want, say the same about Delaware and Rhode Island. Give their senators to California and New York....Trump would be impeached for sure.
no need for a reason.

Posted by: Colin at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM (ec2s9)

489 6:06 PM, timestamped.

Can I get a witness for it to prove I didn't just insert it into the record later?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (8rNrN)

490 Are you depressed, Bandersnatch?


No, thank you for asking.

I have dealt with depression and self-harm in my family and friends. The only two suicides I've known were smart, physically beautiful, accomplished people who were well loved.

Oddly, I knew them both from the same job, my best job, where we were reshaping the world.

I'm saying that "get a grip" and "snap out of it" are not fixes for mental health issues.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (gIRsn)

491 My observations suggest that the left have been telling themselves monster stories about how Trump is going to kill and imprison people and they've scared themselves witless. If Trump is all the things they've claimed, it would be reasonable to panic.

If Trump were to do the things the left wants to do, it would be reasonable to panic.

Posted by: Emmie at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (xVuS6)

492 I hate having a air flight because it requires me ("it tasks me") to be at a certain place at a certain time and there is little to no forgiveness if I'm late.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (e8kgV)

493 That's like telling a depressed person to snap out of it.

-
If you're inside DFW airport, the way to say that is "straighten up and fly right."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 06:08 PM (Nwg0u)

494 I think Barak Obama would make a great president of France. He would be the first African American French president.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2017 06:08 PM (BO/km)

495 486 Note: I'm lighting up Jake Tapper about a claim he made to me twice about his refusal to cover the #EchoChamber story -- first he claimed he didn't trust the reporter, then he claimed he just didn't do media stories, just plain did not do them at all, and i should contact the archliberal spinner Brian Stelter.

i told him he could not use the excuse that he didn't trust the reporter in the Echo Chamber story because the principles had confirmed the quotes but were just claiming some weaselly "context" missing from them. I provided him a link to prove this.

Months after that, another media story broke, which he did cover. I think this was the "Fake News" period, but I can't be sure. I asked him again: So now that you ARE doing media stories, think you can do Echo Chamber?

Amazingly, he once again claimed he didn't trust the reporter -- despite the previous discussion just being twenty DMs above. I guess he didn't bother to read the link, or thought it was safe to go back to his old talking points.

Then he once again told me he doesn't do media stories.

Well, he's doing media stories like crazy now, isn't he? He even had to tweet about Milo's YouTube videos -- a media story if there ever was one, and surely not as important as the Ben Rhodes one.

Anyway, I'm telling you this because I'm making this prediction, and I want it on the record. but I do not want him to see it:

I predict he'll start tweeting about dead vets at some point tonight. It's a pattern. He does that when he needs to protect the brand.

Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious, and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives Can Trust (TM), he starts posting about dead vets, to say, "See, cons? I love the military! Go 'Merica!"

Bank on it: he's done it almost every time before and he'll do it again.

I just want this time-stamped and noted for the record.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM (8rNrN)

Posted by: Grump928(C) countersigns at February 24, 2017 06:08 PM (LTHVh)

496
Love the Constitutionally savvy postings here. Sheesh...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2017 06:08 PM (UGWs/)

497 Rhode Island isn't even an island.

So stupid. Little and stupid.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 06:09 PM (qUNWi)

498 Note: I'm lighting up Jake Tapper about a claim he made to me twice about his refusal to cover the #EchoChamber story -- first he claimed he didn't trust the reporter, then he claimed he just didn't do media stories, just plain did not do them at all, and i should contact the archliberal spinner Brian Stelter.

i told him he could not use the excuse that he didn't trust the reporter in the Echo Chamber story because the principles had confirmed the quotes but were just claiming some weaselly "context" missing from them. I provided him a link to prove this.

Months after that, another media story broke, which he did cover. I think this was the "Fake News" period, but I can't be sure. I asked him again: So now that you ARE doing media stories, think you can do Echo Chamber?

Amazingly, he once again claimed he didn't trust the reporter -- despite the previous discussion just being twenty DMs above. I guess he didn't bother to read the link, or thought it was safe to go back to his old talking points.

Then he once again told me he doesn't do media stories.

Well, he's doing media stories like crazy now, isn't he? He even had to tweet about Milo's YouTube videos -- a media story if there ever was one, and surely not as important as the Ben Rhodes one.

Anyway, I'm telling you this because I'm making this prediction, and I want it on the record. but I do not want him to see it:

I predict he'll start tweeting about dead vets at some point tonight. It's a pattern. He does that when he needs to protect the brand.

Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious, and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives Can Trust (TM), he starts posting about dead vets, to say, "See, cons? I love the military! Go 'Merica!"

Bank on it: he's done it almost every time before and he'll do it again.

I just want this time-stamped and noted for the record.



Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM


witnessed.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2017 06:09 PM (lmIoG)

499 As someone mentioned upthread, panic is being 120 feet below the ocean surface, swimming a bit behind the group when the tank regulator decides to quit working.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:10 PM (Fmupd)

500 thanks, Grump!

better than putting your document in the mail and getting a post office stamp.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:10 PM (8rNrN)

501 witnessed.
--

Just don't tell Tapper about the time machine.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 24, 2017 06:10 PM (4bKiB)

502 Witness!

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2017 06:10 PM (BO/km)

503 Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (gIRsn)

No they are not. I have been affected by clinical depression in the past so I am ware of that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (fDdVG)

504 486
Note: I'm lighting up Jake Tapper about a claim he made to me twice
about his refusal to cover the #EchoChamber story -- first he claimed he
didn't trust the reporter, then he claimed he just didn't do media
stories, just plain did not do them at all, and i should contact the
archliberal spinner Brian Stelter.



i told him he could not use the excuse that he didn't trust the
reporter in the Echo Chamber story because the principles had confirmed
the quotes but were just claiming some weaselly "context" missing from
them. I provided him a link to prove this.



Months after that, another media story broke, which he did cover. I
think this was the "Fake News" period, but I can't be sure. I asked him
again: So now that you ARE doing media stories, think you can do Echo
Chamber?



Amazingly, he once again claimed he didn't trust the reporter --
despite the previous discussion just being twenty DMs above. I guess he
didn't bother to read the link, or thought it was safe to go back to his
old talking points.



Then he once again told me he doesn't do media stories.



Well, he's doing media stories like crazy now, isn't he? He even had
to tweet about Milo's YouTube videos -- a media story if there ever was
one, and surely not as important as the Ben Rhodes one.



Anyway, I'm telling you this because I'm making this prediction, and I want it on the record. but I do not want him to see it:



I predict he'll start tweeting about dead vets at some point
tonight. It's a pattern. He does that when he needs to protect the
brand.



Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious,
and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives
Can Trust (TM), he starts posting about dead vets, to say, "See, cons? I
love the military! Go 'Merica!"



Bank on it: he's done it almost every time before and he'll do it again.



I just want this time-stamped and noted for the record.





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM (8rNrN)

Recorded

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (7N6ox)

505 Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:06 PM


witnessed.



Pfft. Ace could just use the time machine that he totally doesn't have to go back and fake your witnessing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (gIRsn)

506 better than putting your document in the mail and getting a post office stamp.


The post office won't whoop the ass of someone who calls us liars.

Posted by: Grump928(C) countersigns at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (LTHVh)

507 Jake Tapper about a claim he made to me twice about his refusal to cover the #EchoChamber story -- first he claimed he didn't trust the reporter,

-
So it's OK for them to not trust reporters? I mean, not unconstitutional or un-American or anything like it is when Trump does it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (Nwg0u)

508 Former FBI Director shit on FBN being all defensive.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (6LwXe)

509 I didn't see nuthin.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 06:11 PM (qUNWi)

510 489 6:06 PM, timestamped.

Can I get a witness for it to prove I didn't just insert it into the record later?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:07 PM (8rNrN)

-----------------

Acknowledged. Oh, and I agree.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 24, 2017 06:12 PM (kTF2Z)

511 holds up hand

Posted by: witness, concrete girl at February 24, 2017 06:12 PM (FptVn)

512 Murkowski

How the hell does Alaska warrant two Senators? The entire population of the state could fit in the stadiums of the Eagles and the Nittany Lions, on game day, without even including the prepubescent boys waiting in the showers at PSU.

[i[I pre-apologize to PSU alumni.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum


Yeah, yeah, but let's go there. The Senate is there for a reason. This is one of the mechanisms that prevents blue states from importing FSA into urban areas and taking over the country.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 06:12 PM (W8bn5)

513 >>Rhode Island isn't even an island.

>>So stupid. Little and stupid.

These are hurtful statements you're making.

Do I have the fresh lobster or the fresh shrimp dick tonight?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2017 06:13 PM (/tuJf)

514 Should we take a picture with a copy of today's newspaper?

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2017 06:13 PM (BO/km)

515 >>>So it's OK for them to not trust reporters? I mean, not unconstitutional or un-American or anything like it is when Trump does it?

i guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

516 O/T

Just got an email that my local Williams-Sonoma is closing!

Should have had a mostly peaceful riot there when we had a chance.

Damn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:15 PM (PY9jH)

517 Should we take a picture with a copy of today's newspaper?


No, we cut out words and phrases from today's newspaper and glue them on to construction paper to recreate ace's message, then mail it to the FBI.

I think I seen that on Columbo or Charlie's Angels.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 24, 2017 06:15 PM (gIRsn)

518 Jake Tapper buried story at ABC online about Benghazi.

Hopefully you are done blowing smoke up his ass like Jeff B tweeting the B-sides.

Posted by: Xi at February 24, 2017 06:15 PM (fi5nC)

519 Ace, I hope you will report on your prediction for those of us who don't follow Tapper very closely.

Posted by: Emmie at February 24, 2017 06:15 PM (xVuS6)

520 Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious, and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives Can Trust (TM),

I guess that explains why a local right wing radio host has Tapper on his show for a weekly interview. Except Tapper can't hide his contempt for anti-leftys, so many of us in Dom Giordano's audience are wondering why TH he gives Tapper a platform for marxist buffoonery.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2017 06:17 PM (nNdYv)

521 Tapper works for a whorehouse, that is not an achievement. don't even know why he considers himself a reporter

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:17 PM (c6/9Q)

522 Just got an email that my local Williams-Sonoma is closing!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:15 PM (PY9jH)


How do you feel about that? Any sensations of dread? Anxiety, maybe?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2017 06:17 PM (8nWyX)

523 The science is settled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKRw0W6UVCQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 06:17 PM (Nwg0u)

524 "I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored."
-Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

I've been thinking about using this phrase for Ten Years. Opportunities have come and gone with my forgetfulness coming into play more often than not.

I'll be damned. You scored an ox-goring before I could.

-Kudos.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2017 06:18 PM (6gk0M)

525 Panic is when your recent diploma from Moorehouse yellows and disintegrates before your eyes.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:18 PM (6LwXe)

526 Ace,

What is the "echo chamber story" , Ace Maybe I'm thinking of it under another name unless I missed that post? Unless you just mean reporters talking to themselves without bothering to check facts or listen to anything to their preconceived views, which is an ongoing story? Of course it may be something which I did read but I am ill right now so I'm not remembering much of anything.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:18 PM (fDdVG)

527 James O'Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
Part 2 #CNNLeaks is LIVE now. cnnleaks.com

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 24, 2017 06:18 PM (y3aQB)

528 btw, i've mentioned this move of his to Tapper himself, and as I said to him: No, I don't think your concern for the military is just entirely feigned.

But I do think he occasionally realizes that it would be in his interests to *advertise* his concern for the military.

I don't think he's just completely lying about caring about vets. I just do suspect he understands that there are some moments when it would help his brand to remind everyone of this.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:19 PM (8rNrN)

529 Media idiots shitting themselves over Trump's FBI Tweet. One ex-FBI director whining about the "morale".

Can't find a leaker? Fuck your morale.

Keep it on Donald.

Don't let the lazy-ass bitches get you down.


Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 24, 2017 06:19 PM (KgpWR)

530 Got BBC news on, Oscars are going to be the most politicized ever.

Do you think?

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:19 PM (HDU3V)

531 fenelon,

look up ben rhodes echo chamber

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (8rNrN)

532 The science is settled.



Nah. I'm drunk.

Posted by: Science at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (vZ9Fw)

533 Kate Upton nude in my bed begging for it and I can't get it up.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 05:53 PM


1. Say "Big game tomorrow."
2. Go to bathroom w/mobile device
3. Ask The Horde for counsel and advice.
4. Problems solved.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (DMUuz)

534 I don't really understand why there is a reporters brand, at least in the TV world. I am completely indifferent to which talking head is telling me their take on the news.

Posted by: Grump928(C) countersigns at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (LTHVh)

535 I don't know why anyone would want to watch the Oscars that isn't a leftist? I never have even when I was a liberal.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (fDdVG)

536
Whenever he gets super-liberal, and his biases become too obvious,

and he feels the need to protect his brand as The Reporter Conservatives

Can Trust (TM), he starts posting about dead vets, to say, "See, cons? I

love the military! Go 'Merica!"



Yeah, pretend to *care* about the military. He can go horsefuck. I'm sick to death of progs like him: "I love the military, I just don't support ________."


Hate everyone at CNN. My somewhat conservative BiL works there. I don't know how he stands it.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (PY9jH)

537 521 Tapper works for a whorehouse, that is not an achievement. don't even know why he considers himself a reporter
Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:17 PM (c6/9Q)


---------------


So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (Fmupd)

538 That you, Strom?

Posted by: Just the Punchline at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (LTHVh)

539 Do I have the fresh lobster or the fresh shrimp dick tonight?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2017 06:13 PM


O_o Shrimp dick? Fresh lobster I can work with, but I'm thinking you're going to have to extend that shrimp dick with a lot of pasta. Maybe a salad, too. Just sayin'.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (p+Wdc)

540 I've been thinking about using this phrase for Ten Years. Opportunities have come and gone with my forgetfulness coming into play more often than not.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2017 06:18 PM (6gk0M)


Same, but giving a datacenter tour and saying "and this... is where the magic happens". I have not once remembered to say it.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (8nWyX)

541 Not having money sure breeds anxiety. Being so poor you know the EXACT cost of everything, down to the penny. Man, that bears down on you. That and lack of sex made me taste gunmetal a time or two.

For me, it came down to choosing. Choosing to live, to endure, to look for a job outside of my comfort level. Choosing hookers, comes to that, as opposed to social awkwardness/Christianity-imposed celibacy.

Eventually, I learned to let go of most stuff. Including my past, as best I can. Just focus on things I like, day dream, write and read. Call it escapism, but it works as a coping mechanism.

I still hate airport security lines, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (NdM46)

542 I have to say....this stuffed artichoke I made is orgasmic.

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (Enq6K)

543
Rhode Island has a prestigious art school, famous for producing scatological art work of an anti-Semite nature in gender neutral bathrooms.

At least for 48 hours, when the story goes to shit. Again.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (ZFUt7)

544 the first thing that popped into my head this morning was 'the who' and the tommy song.

so whoever posted that yesterday, i got it today.

!

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2017 06:22 PM (FptVn)

545 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (Fmupd)

Date the chick who runs it. Or be related to her.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:22 PM (NdM46)

546 I've told people they let the magic smoke out so now their device needed to go back to the shop and have some squirted back in.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2017 06:23 PM (LTHVh)

547 If Tapper gave an actual flying fuck about the military, he would have been focused like a laser on Benghazi. But, no. Mustn't hurt the Beast's chances of winning the presidency.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:23 PM (PY9jH)

548 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.


Can you play the piano?

Know any Ragtime?

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (qUNWi)

549 >>so whoever posted that yesterday, i got it today.


That would have been me.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (ktw54)

550 Tapper's not a reporter....he's a script reader.

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (Enq6K)

551 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (Fmupd)

turn tricks, do what you are told and role play when asked, I believe there is also a contact involved...people say

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (c6/9Q)

552 Tapper serves The Party by trying not to be too obvious about it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (LTHVh)

553 "The solidity and predictability of the world has been stolen out from beneath their feet, and now they're lurching about a bit madly and frenetically trying to grope on to something that might give them some balance and bearing."

Imagine being a Colombia J school student. $250 k in debt. Shitty pay. But hey, you will be important and influence the national conversation...

...and then Trump calls bullshit on the whole thing.

Posted by: Astro Mike at February 24, 2017 06:24 PM (UgF8H)

554 >> I have to say....this stuffed artichoke I made is orgasmic.


Where exactly did you stuff it?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:25 PM (ktw54)

555 We have discriminated against Gargamel to long. We must let him into our village. He will add diversity to our community.

Posted by: Merkel Smurf at February 24, 2017 06:25 PM (W8bn5)

556 I've told people they let the magic smoke out so now their device needed to go back to the shop and have some squirted back in.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2017 06:23 PM


I've had to explain to young'ns many times that "smoke test" has an actual, physical meaning.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2017 06:25 PM (DMUuz)

557 too, not to.

Posted by: Merkel Smurf at February 24, 2017 06:25 PM (W8bn5)

558
Just got an email that my local Williams-Sonoma is closing!


There are 3 stores' existence I just don't understand:

1. Williams Sonoma
2. Sharper Image
3. Batteries and Bulbs
4. Best Buy
5. Sears
6. Crate & Barrel

(make that 6 stores)

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 24, 2017 06:26 PM (P0DTV)

559 Yay me!! I once again get to glory in my own firstness.

I went 3 days without booze. That's enough for now.

Posted by: Country Boy - just a humble, occasionally hotheaded poster at February 24, 2017 06:26 PM (Jcg9Q)

560 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Soona


Just take it from me, business major. Do NOT purchase a two story whorehouse. The f-cking overhead will kill you.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 24, 2017 06:27 PM (ZFUt7)

561 Best Buy is good for seeing what the picture quality of the TV you buy from Amazon is like.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:27 PM (NdM46)

562 Apropos of nothing...

I had a little 5 second dream or actually a little five second interruption to a dream by another dream,

that was so lucid, so clear, and so odd that it instantly woke me up with "What the hell was that?" on my lips.

I'd tell you what it was, but now I've decided to use it in my writing, so...


Anyway...the imagination, she is a strange beast.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2017 06:27 PM (vZ9Fw)

563 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.

-
It's not who you know, it's who you blow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at February 24, 2017 06:27 PM (Nwg0u)

564
I've had to explain to young'ns many times that "smoke test" has an actual, physical meaning.

Yeah, an essential tool in a mechanic's toolbox is a Smoke Machine.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 24, 2017 06:27 PM (P0DTV)

565 I haven't read all the comments, so I don't know if the LA Times story about psychologists being swamped by panicked Hillary voters was discussed. They're suffering panic, anxiety and insomnia.

When I saw the extreme reaction to the election, I wondered how all this hysteria was going to affect the people who were so disappointed. Evidently their quality of life is being compromised in a material way: losing sleep, missing work, etc.

Well at least the therapists bank accounts are healthy.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2017 06:28 PM (nNdYv)

566 so what is this thing going around about about SPicer excluding fake news ? MSM is anxious and fearful about this turn of events

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:28 PM (c6/9Q)

567 I love Williams-Sonoma. My local store is always doing cooking events, and their staff is great.

And I'd completely forgotten a $100 gift card for them I received at Christmas.

Everything in the store is marked down 30%. I'll have to fight the crowds tomorrow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:28 PM (PY9jH)

568
For instance, right now my Check Engine Light (CEL or SES, Service Engine Soon), a.k.a. the "Money Light" is on and I'm getting a Code for a vacuum leak.

I cannot find it. I need a smoke machine.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (P0DTV)

569 Where exactly did you stuff it?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:25 PM (ktw54)

Lol!

I should know beter....

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (Enq6K)

570 timestamped.



Can I get a witness for it to


Observed by sock.


Posted by: Ceiling Cat at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (8J/Te)

571 Here's how I try to explain stress and panic to pre-teens and teens. My cure for palpitations.

Imagine Joe Cave-Man. Gives his wife a kiss as he heads out the door of his cave to do cave-man stuff. Got his J. Crew fur-lined messenger pouch over one shoulder, his club over the other shoulder. Walks around a boulder and comes face-to-face with a slobbering sabre-toothed tigre. Now he's got a choice. He can choose fight, or flight.

He can hit the tigre with his club, right? No, Joe Cave-Man does the smart thing. He throws the messenger bag one way, the club the other way, screams at the top of his lungs and heads back to his cave as fast as he can run. Right past Mrs. Cave-Man to the back of the cave where he sticks his head as far under their rock bed as he can. That is adrenaline.


Fast forward several millenia to today. Joey the kid leaves his home one day, be-bopping off to school. Tosses his mom a breezy farewell and out the door, Scooby-Doo lunchbox in one hand, book bag in the other hand. Scoots smoothly into math class and there at the front of the room is the modern day equivalent of the drooling sabre-toothed tigre, Mrs. Slobowski. Stress personified. Stress kicks in, adrenaline surges. What Joey wants to do is throw his bags up in the air, scream, and head for home as fast as his feet will carry him, in the front door, past his mom, up the stairs, into his bedroom and burry his head under the pillows.

That's what he wants to do, but he doesn't. Because we're civilized. We sit there and we take it. We let that sabre-toothed tigre drool all over us. And the big spike of adrenaline has nowhere to go, so our throat gets tight, our heart beats faster, we break into a sweat, and we tremble.


That is what stress does to a person. The key is to burn off that adrenaline and other stress factors in socially acceptable ways. Your on your own from here on out, kid.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (wPiJc)

572 >>Bank on it: he's done it almost every time before and he'll do it again.


What do they call the Kwisatz Haderach on Endor?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:30 PM (ktw54)

573 Best Buy is good because I could ride my bicycle to it.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:30 PM (HDU3V)

574 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM (Fmupd)


https://www.usajobs.gov/

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2017 06:30 PM (8nWyX)

575 Tami, there was a restaurant in Chicago that made an awesome brie-stuffed artichoke. I've got their recipe in a file somewhere. Artichokes are one of my husband's favorite veggies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (PY9jH)

576 I've witnessed the Magic Smoke a few times. In every occurrence it was some goon in the past using the Golden Screwdriver that tried to fix something.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (6LwXe)

577 WSJ reporting that NYPD commisioner just told NYPD not to cooperate with Federal law enforcement. A warrant will be required in order to turn an alien over to ICE.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (KgpWR)

578 Repost to explain Rhodes and the Echo Chamber:

FFS, the Times preaching about False Nerws.

Recall that earlier this year, The Times itself ran a long piece about Ben Rhodes, the failed novelist who became Obama's key foreign policy adviser (because it's all about building the Narrative, you see). The deep reveal was that the Obamans used leading journalists as dumb Useful Idiots, to be played like ventriloquist's dummies.

This was part of a broader pattern, but The Times article focused in depth about how Rhodes made up the narrative that the Iranian treaty came about because in his infinite wisdom Obama seized the initiative to foster connections with moderates in the Iranian regime, which was a total fabrication.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (SIY7D)

579 We are all suffering this panic. Not just journalists. Call it Future Shock or what have you - the underpinnings of society are melting down. For a lot of people, voting for Trump, the old white guy, was a vote to return to how things were, our understanding of how things are supposed to work (the president wants America to be Great, and will enforce laws, and not make up new ones on the fly).

The reaction to Muslim immigrants could even be part of this - sure, terrorism is a concern. But also, what, more changes/differences, radical revolutions? Aren't we dealing with enough right now? We want a little stability, assurance. Taking in 100k Syrian refugees doesn't provide that.

As we approach the singularity expect more and more of this existential panic.

Posted by: Astro Mike at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (UgF8H)

580 The science is settled.

Nah. I'm drunk.

Posted by: Science


You know how I know when I'm drunk? I catch myself having debates out loud with myself against an imaginary liberal antagonist. It's pathetic. That said, I just ran out of vodka, so I am off for another booze run.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 06:32 PM (W8bn5)

581 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM

Get a degree in journalism

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (HDU3V)

582 From May 2016:

The NYT article on Rhodes is strange. Sounds like Rhodes will need a job and needed a puff piece, and he spun the story a little too well -- that he created policy not just spun it. I expect he works well with Obama precisely because he has little substantive knowledge so facts don't get in his way. Like Favreau on the domestic front, he know his boss's voice.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (SIY7D)

583 Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (wPiJc)

+++

Great story. I am now much more relaxed.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (Ivjge)

584 >>He can hit the tigre with his club, right? No, Joe Cave-Man does the smart thing. He throws the messenger bag one way, the club the other way, screams at the top of his lungs and heads back to his cave as fast as he can run. Right past Mrs. Cave-Man to the back of the cave where he sticks his head as far under their rock bed as he can. That is adrenaline.

So did Joe get away? Don't just leave me hanging like this.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (/tuJf)

585 True Fact : Ace can see all Twitter Timelines stretched out before him.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (ktw54)

586 581 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM

Get a degree in journalism
Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:33 PM (HDU3V)

Or elected to Congress.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2017 06:34 PM (0mRoj)

587 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend

---------------

Yeah, it's all fun & games til the Chinese show up.

Posted by: Jacks Teller at February 24, 2017 06:34 PM (kTF2Z)

588 Good thing is if you are drunk and caught out driving you can self identity as a sober person

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:34 PM (HDU3V)

589 I've witnessed the Magic Smoke a few times. In every occurrence it was some goon in the past using the Golden Screwdriver that tried to fix something.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (6LwXe)


Having a coworker whose desk/workbench has a perpetual metal puddle with a screwdriver handle sticking out from where he tried to discharge a very assertive capacitor is a pretty potent 'lest we forget' daily reminder.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2017 06:35 PM (8nWyX)

590 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM


I met a guy who worked at one of the "guest ranches" outside of Carson City. Fundamentally, he was an errand runner/gofer, since the women were pretty much on-site 24/7. The vast majority of his income was in the form of gratuities.

He would pick up/drop off the ladies at the airport in Reno. His biggest complaint was they constantly wanted to offer their gratuity in the form of a personal service, rather than cash.

I've heard that a couple of the Nevada establishments have had a 'prostidude' on staff, which might be another career path in that industry you could investigate.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2017 06:35 PM (DMUuz)

591 Good thing is if you are drunk and caught out driving you can self identity as a sober person

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:34 PM (HDU3V)

and when they ask you to walk the line, you can tell them you are blind

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:36 PM (c6/9Q)

592 >> it's all fun & games til the Chinese show up.


Don't let them leave before you check your order.

They ALWAYS forget the pancakes for the Moo Shu!

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:36 PM (ktw54)

593
There are 3 stores' existence I just don't understand:

1. Williams Sonoma
2. Sharper Image
3. Batteries and Bulbs
4. Best Buy
5. Sears
6. Crate & Barrel

(make that 6 stores)


Ikea.

I swear, if women designed Hell...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2017 06:36 PM (oVJmc)

594 Williams-Sonoma is on a lifetime Weasel ban, due to a snotty attitude by a store clerk about 10 years ago.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2017 06:37 PM (Sfs6o)

595
That is what stress does to a person. The key is
to burn off that adrenaline and other stress factors in socially
acceptable ways. Your on your own from here on out, kid.

Posted by: Muldoon

===

You're talking about the 'sex' aren't you.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 24, 2017 06:37 PM (KgpWR)

596 575
Tami, there was a restaurant in Chicago that made an awesome
brie-stuffed artichoke. I've got their recipe in a file somewhere.
Artichokes are one of my husband's favorite veggies.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:31 PM (PY9jH)

Brie...that sounds interesting.
I grew up eating them stuffed w/ Romano or Parmesan cheese and chopped green onions down each leaf. Steam in about 1 = 2 inches of water for a hour or so.
I also sometimes put a breading mixture on top too.

My hubby is not really fond of them....he finds them too much work for too little food. He's out of town so....they're allllll mine!

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:37 PM (Enq6K)

597 535 I don't know why anyone would want to watch the Oscars that isn't a leftist? I never have even when I was a liberal.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:20 PM (fDdVG)
--------------------------
I used to watch it years ---actually decades---ago.
Even then it had gotten to the point where the only thing that really interested me was the fashion.

Now I can see the gowns on the internet immediately and I don't have to put up with political blather to do so.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 24, 2017 06:38 PM (Nox3c)

598 Best omlette pan I ever owned came from Williams Sonoma.

Can't grudge on them.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:38 PM (ktw54)

599 washrivergal...thanks for yesterdays kind words

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2017 06:38 PM (FptVn)

600 Good thing is if you are drunk and caught out driving you can self identity as a sober person

Posted by: Skip


Shapiro was debating a college kid about transgenderism and asked her, "could you identify as a 60 year old". It completely flummoxed her. She had no response. I wonder if ace were there 'Yeah, bro. I can identify as different ages. I identify as 29. You can identify as 6'5."'

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2017 06:38 PM (W8bn5)

601 This really should be embroidered on a pillow

226 That jerking, unsteady feeling of vertigo, as they realize there is, abruptly, no longer a face beneath their boot heel upon which to balance.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2017 09:15 PM (sK2fh)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2017 06:39 PM (LTHVh)

602 WHat's wrong with Best Buy ?

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:40 PM (c6/9Q)

603 585. Also a true fact - The Golden Path is the trail of urine from the pile of hobo-pelt blankets where he sleeps to the pile of empty valu-rite bottles in the far corner.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2017 06:40 PM (qDXcp)

604 >>He's out of town so...

So how you doin?

Posted by: Paolo at February 24, 2017 06:40 PM (/tuJf)

605 So....how does one get a job working for a whorehouse? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2017 06:21 PM

I met a guy who worked at one of the "guest ranches" outside of Carson City. Fundamentally, he was an errand runner/gofer, since the women were pretty much on-site 24/7. The vast majority of his income was in the form of gratuities.

He would pick up/drop off the ladies at the airport in Reno. His biggest complaint was they constantly wanted to offer their gratuity in the form of a personal service, rather than cash.

I've heard that a couple of the Nevada establishments have had a 'prostidude' on staff, which might be another career path in that industry you could investigate.

Back when the Seattle scene was a little less persecuted, some of the local girls set up 'temples' where you can get your second chakra released. Rub and tug places, mostly. They had 'temple men' who basically did errands and maintenance. One was the boyfriend of the main madam and another was dating one of the girls.

Now male prosties did exist too, but they mostly worked with men. The market for gigolo's is pretty small: mostly around Miami and some big Euro places.

And yeah, getting paid in 'service' is pretty common. Always ask for cash. Try not to fall in love.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:41 PM (NdM46)

606 Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2017 06:38 PM (FptVn)

+++

I was so happy that you escaped from a terrible situation and that you feel free at last. Great outcome for you.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2017 06:41 PM (Ivjge)

607 Going to see what the BBC thinks of Sweden

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:41 PM (HDU3V)

608 Holland now thinking about ditching the EU. Now that's some world class panic right there.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:41 PM (6LwXe)

609 love my loot from WS

YUGE roasting pan/rack
YUGE cutting board
Vermont Maple Wooden bowl

i used to press my nose against the glass at their store on Sutter on my way to work.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2017 06:42 PM (FptVn)

610 The Swedish meatballs at Ikea are pretty great, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:42 PM (NdM46)

611 Tami, my husband is out of town, too.

Since we had to euthanize our kitty on Sunday, I haven't really been hungry. This is the first time in 14 years I haven't had my little buddy curled up next to me while I'm on the computer.

The other kitty is sad and keeping to herself.

Everything sucks right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:43 PM (PY9jH)

612 I thought Holland moved to Michigan?

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:43 PM (ktw54)

613 Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2017 06:29 PM (wPiJc)

That is why I am now an advocate for organized sports, which I wouldn't have thought that I would be. It helps with the stress level of my son tremendously to run cross country and track and field and to go to the weight room. In fact, his surliness level goes up when the sports are between or after seasons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:43 PM (fDdVG)

614 Now male prosties did exist too, but they mostly worked with men. The market for gigolo's is pretty small: mostly around Miami and some big Euro places.

And yeah, getting paid in 'service' is pretty common. Always ask for cash. Try not to fall in love.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 24, 2017 06:41 PM (NdM46)

+++

That's what I always figured.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2017 06:44 PM (Ivjge)

615 Ikea meatballs are better with their Dingleberry sauce.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2017 06:44 PM (6LwXe)

616 608. Wait 'til France says 'adieu,' and slams the door behind it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2017 06:44 PM (qDXcp)

617 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:43 PM (PY9jH)

Di you decide on whether you will get another cat to keep the other cat company?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:44 PM (fDdVG)

618 The other kitty is sad and keeping to herself.

Everything sucks right now.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:43 PM (PY9jH)

Awww Jane...I really do feel for you. Last doggeh I had to have put to sleep, it took me weeks before I could move his bed, bowl, toys. But every time I looked at them I started to cry. Such a gut punch.

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:46 PM (Enq6K)

619 BBC - Swedish Muzzies -more problems in US than Sweden
NoGo zones greatly Exaggerated
Everything is good in Sweden

Pamela Gellar- live facebook sexual assaults by Muzzies are the new rage in Sweden

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:47 PM (HDU3V)

620
WHat's wrong with Best Buy ?


There's an old saying:

"Only the Irish pay retail."

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 24, 2017 06:47 PM (P0DTV)

621
go to


NOOD


Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 24, 2017 06:48 PM (P0DTV)

622 Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2017 06:47 PM (HDU3V)

Sweden's done. The women government ministers decry Donald Trump and wear their scarves to meet with Muslims from other countries.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2017 06:49 PM (fDdVG)

623 Malmo -13 murders , 6 months =nothing to see

Posted by: runner at February 24, 2017 06:49 PM (c6/9Q)

624 Anyone looking at something on eBay : CFEBFLASH10OFF works for $10 off until 6 PM PST.

Posted by: garrett at February 24, 2017 06:50 PM (ktw54)

625 Awww Jane...I really do feel for you. Last doggeh I
had to have put to sleep, it took me weeks before I could move his bed,
bowl, toys. But every time I looked at them I started to cry. Such a gut
punch.


Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 06:46 PM (Enq6K)


It was a gorgeous day today, and she would have spent it curled on the screened porch, "talking" to me.


I can't even sit out there now without looking at the crape myrtle she's buried under.


I was super busy all day yesterday, and for the first time slept pretty well. Woke up this morning and will see something of hers and the tears come.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:50 PM (PY9jH)

626 Where was the equivalent panic from the right?

Obama actually increased the likelihood of physical danger for everyone, whether it was DeathCare, giving Iran nukes, importing and free criminal illegal aliens and refugees ... the list is endless.

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2017 06:59 PM (mt8X9)

627
I was super busy all day yesterday, and for the
first time slept pretty well. Woke up this morning and will see
something of hers and the tears come.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2017 06:50 PM (PY9jH)

Yeah, I did the same thing. It just takes time.

Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2017 07:00 PM (Enq6K)

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