A Post That is Both Genuine & Credible (MJ)

A few years ago I attended a two week training class for executive development that centered on statistics and also the softer skills that are necessary to be successful in a global corporate world. Most of the sessions were related to math, stats and running big ass, soon to be over budget projects, but in addition, the Director of the American Shakespeare company in Prague flew in to help the group loosen up a little--like regular people. You'd be surprised at what tight ass phonies most executards are. Oh wait, no you wouldn't. It's every bit as bad as you can imagine.

So imagine a group of execudorks doing acting exercises in an attempt to be more relatable--silently laying on the floor with your eyes closed to just...be, taking giant deep breaths and sighing to release the tension, having the group tear apart your presentation and rate your body language as you fidget or squirm, standing across from a partner and looking them in the eyes while you compliment them on...something.

At one point the group had to list out a bunch of great actors coupled with their less accomplished brethren to flush out a core lesson. Jack Nicholson--great actor. Elizabeth Berkley--not so much. It was really trippy and weird and many of the execugeeks couldn't break character--or they really are boring, soulless automatons. You decide which is true.

It took a few weeks to settle in but the lesson of the good/bad actor finally settled in. The instructor, Guy, went on to talk about what makes actors great--they are both genuine and credible. Jake Gyllenhall might be a pretty good actor but there is no way on this godly earth he could pull off Colonel Jessup. It takes a Jack Nicholson to do that.

So I started applying this very simple lifehack to politics and used it to figure out who would win each little skirmish occupying endless loops on cable. It's not always right but in personal contests it's a good indicator of who will come out on top.

Would Obama beat Romney? Yep, he sure would because Romney simply wasn't genuine while Obama was both genuine and credible as President. Would Assad fire off a few gas bombs in an effort to win his civil war? Yep' he was gonna because Obama isn't credible as a guy who draws red lines and it was obvious that he didn't give a rat's ass about Syria. ESPN, baby. The second replay of SportsCenter isn't going to watch itself.

To test the theory I put together this chart to see if each President since Ike possessed both qualities going in. Surprisingly, there were/are Presidents that don't have both qualities.

So how did they win? How is it possible that they could become President without being both genuine and credible? Simple: when compared to their opponents, they were both more genuine and credible or the one trait they could claim as their own outweighed the one they lost.

You could quibble with a few of the assumptions but there are some that simply aren't debatable.

1. Eisenhower. Supreme Allied Commander. 'Nuff said.

2. Johnson could have beaten almost anyone in 64. Living embodiment of a recently assassinated President.

3. Reagan was the real deal.

4. Bush represented the continued Presidency of Reagan' who was truly transformative.

Was Trump more credible than Clinton? I'm not really sure about that. He was certainly more genuine but there was an impression that she could be President, it just wasn't worth it to put someone so disingenuous in the Oval Office. America chose to roll the dice. Trump wins.

Was Gore more credible than Bush? I'd say they were about even, but Bush was so much more genuine that it didn't matter. Close ass election.

You get the point. It's a fun thought experiment based on what I'm convinced are the only two characteristics that matter. If you're honest with yourself about who is more genuine or credible, you'll be able to bypass the bullshit polls, the daily horserace, and just enjoy the pure spectacle of an election or political fight. And besides, you've only seen the rerun of That 70's Show where Eric pulls down Donna's pants during a basketball game three times. It won't watch itself.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:30 PM

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1 Black Diamonds.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 08:24 PM (LTHVh)

2 I'm still sorting this one out...

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2017 08:25 PM (TppKb)

3 Who is this "MJ"?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:26 PM (PY9jH)

4 Clinton was both.

Trump is credible but not genuine by your assessment.

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2017 08:27 PM (TppKb)

5 https://tinyurl.com/j3mv2mk

__________________________

WOW! Wikileaks Document Shows John McCain Requested Donations from Russians

WILLOWED

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 08:28 PM (y3aQB)

6 Why would anyone beg for the government to control their lives?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 08:29 PM (6Ll1u)

7 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:26 PM (PY9jH)

I think it's "MJ Behind the Curtain" from The Hostages who used to comment on the HQ until banned (accident or incident, I don't remember) a couple of years ago. LauraW said she gave him Cob keys.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:29 PM (sEDyY)

8 You don't get more genuine or credible than a mailman.

Posted by: John Kasich at February 22, 2017 08:29 PM (DMUuz)

9 I think it's "MJ Behind the Curtain" from The
Hostages who used to comment on the HQ until banned (accident or
incident, I don't remember) a couple of years ago. LauraW said she gave
him Cob keys.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:29 PM (sEDyY)

Hrrrm. Okay. I thought Michael Jordan had become a cob.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:30 PM (PY9jH)

10 Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 08:28 PM (y3aQB)

*Requested*?! Dear Lord, the man's so senile he can't even graft right.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:30 PM (sEDyY)

11 I ain't noways tahrd.

In fact, I'm tanned, ready, and resting for that Special Election.

Posted by: Hillary! at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (DMUuz)

12 black diamonds are both rayciss and classy

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (Om16U)

13 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:30 PM (sEDyY)

Listen my Frenzzz we have nothing to be afraid of Graft

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (y3aQB)

14 >>WOW! Wikileaks Document Shows John McCain Requested Donations from Russians

WILLOWED

Posted by: EVLINC!

Well, he is an enemy ace.

Posted by: Aviator at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (/Nite)

15 I got confused in there somewhere.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (qUNWi)

16 I whistled for the corgis. They were busy chasing each others' butts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:31 PM (PY9jH)

17 Sounds like another bullshit executard fad like six-sigma or ISO 9001.

Neither genuine nor credible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 22, 2017 08:32 PM (WDdjT)

18 Black Diamonds look better in the shade.

Posted by: Gino Vannelli at February 22, 2017 08:32 PM (wpC7C)

19 Russians have something, some blakcmail, on McCain, that is why he is hell bent of nuking Moscow

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 08:32 PM (c6/9Q)

20 black diamonds are both rayciss and classy

Black diamonds are nature's way of saying "You can't ski this, bro."

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 08:32 PM (qUNWi)

21 to wit, McCain is neither genuine nor credible (see what I did there ?)

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 08:33 PM (c6/9Q)

22 Genuine AND credible?

That's real believable.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 08:33 PM (wPiJc)

23 ? I'm a little lost on the use of genuine and credible.

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 08:34 PM (eeTCA)

24 The Russians probably have vid of McCain and Miss Lindsay.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:34 PM (PY9jH)

25 willowed comment

431 https://is.gd/0t6FU5

From Dilbert dood
The DOD is dedveloping a virus that will eliminate the Religious impulse, belief, whatever you want to call it.

I'm wondering if it'll RedPill all Liberals, tho...

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 22, 2017 08:34 PM (U0lQa)

26 Black Diamonds look better in the shade.

Out on the streets for a Livin', Bitch has only begun OHH OHH. Got you under their Thumb

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 08:34 PM (y3aQB)

27 I was told there would be no charts or graphs on this blog.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:35 PM (PY9jH)

28 Hmmm, OK.

But Obama was neither genuine nor credible, except to people who can listen to NPR without laughing or shaking their head (i.e., ignoramuses). He looks like me, you've still never heard his name, much less see him as prez.

It's the electorate that's the problem, mostly, the focus on candidates lacks any persuasiveness when you compare the often ridiculous outcomes in different campaigns.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (QDnY+)

29 Genuine means he'll kick you in the nuts when he says he's going to.

Credible means next time you'll believe him when he says he's going to kick you in the nuts.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (wPiJc)

30 Its an interesting analysis, but the last two two new presidents had another factor: change.

The American people are fully sick of the government status quo and the system as is. They're tired of being jerked around, ignored, and having things taken away from them more and more. Its not the kind of thing that makes you go berserk, its the kind that makes you grit your teeth and go "again? Seriously?" So that when you get a chance to really change things up and do things differently, you pull the trigger.

Obama represented change and a new try at things. McCain represented more of the same.

Trump represented change and a new try at things. Clinton represented not just more Obama, but more of the past we're sick of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (39g3+)

31 As one of those Execudorks that became very high ranking pretty recently, let it be known that I used my powers to wax about 75% of the HR "make me feel all good about myself" shindigs we used to have.

We now only will Annual Department meetings, quarterly Sales meetings, anything Federally mandated and training meetings. It had gotten so bad that we were in some meeting over half the time.

I have been here since becoming a lowly Sales guy in the late 80s. With the reaction from HR, I had better get security to check out my car before I start it.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (YkWXu)

32
I'm wondering if it'll RedPill all Liberals, tho...

Liberals losing their religion would be the end of Socialism.

Wouldn't it? No more political cults?

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (qUNWi)

33 17. It's all fads. Now, if only I could hit on what would be the next big thing.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 08:36 PM (VaQ4B)

34 mccain is a complete asshole

everyone gets all butthurt when i call him a traitor, but he is.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 22, 2017 08:37 PM (U0lQa)

35 So are these kinds of stupid executive retreats and training even more stupid, if less offensive, than "diversity" or sensitivity training?

Discuss.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:37 PM (QDnY+)

36 Mary Jane eatin' Black Diamond almonds.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

37 Obama was both genuine and credible as President

Well, that didn't quite work out as advertised...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Tyii7)

38 Why would anyone beg for the government to control their lives?

If you are weak and fearful, if you lack ambition or personal character, having someone else handle everything is very comforting and soothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

39 Obama is both genuine and credible? In what way? Is my reading comprehension lacking?

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

40 Former American Hero John McCain

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (LTHVh)

41 I don't mind repeating it, when it's pertinent: McCain is dumber, and more psycho, than even you imagine.

Not speculation.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (QDnY+)

42 No one though Clinton was credible - they thought she was saying whatever the hell she had to get elected. And she sure as shit was not genuine. Trump, like him or not, is genuine. A genuine credible blow hard New York loud mouth.

The only sin in America is hypocrisy, and that only applies to republicans.

Posted by: Old G at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (UgF8H)

43 Being genuine - if you can fake that, you've got it made.

Posted by: Billy Hollis at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (MopNP)

44
The American people are fully sick of the government status quo

That's why Congress has a 90+% reelection rate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 08:40 PM (IqV8l)

45 35. Heh...at least there's some basis, be it ever so tenuous, in fact for this sort of thing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 08:40 PM (VaQ4B)

46 Obama is both genuine and credible? In what way? Is my reading comprehension lacking?

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

as an asshole, he is

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 08:40 PM (c6/9Q)

47 Trump was more genuine - hate him or love him, he was and still Is his own man. And I like that about him. Hillary was up for auction to whoever paid her the most. The worst kind of politician.

Posted by: IC at February 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hiGxG)

48 WTF does the second chart mean? Why two columns, Genuine / Credible when they are both the same content?

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at February 22, 2017 08:41 PM (0J6e7)

49 And PT needs to give McCain a public spanking. Wtf is that old goat up to anyway?

Posted by: IC at February 22, 2017 08:42 PM (hiGxG)

50 2016 was a lot more simple that people make it out to be. The bullshit meter was (and is) at 11 and people were sick of it. Trump was at the right time/right place to tap into that seething anger.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 22, 2017 08:42 PM (APQfM)

51 Are we sure Sessions is still alive?

Any word on whether federal district courts are now going to be in the chain of command for military special operations or covert intel programs? I mean, consistent with the recent decree that gives them plenary power over national security-related admissions?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:43 PM (QDnY+)

52 Trump might not have been more credible than Clinton. But then again, he wasn't Clinton. Not one bit.

Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2017 08:43 PM (zLDYs)

53 Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (QDnY+)

Did you ever have to interact with him?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:44 PM (sEDyY)

54 But did you find out who moved your cheese?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2017 08:44 PM (NOIQH)

55 38 Why would anyone beg for the government to control their lives?

If you are weak and fearful, if you lack ambition or personal character, having someone else handle everything is very comforting and soothing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

____

It's easier to do nothing and wait for the govt to do it for you, than doing it yourself.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 22, 2017 08:44 PM (APQfM)

56 I'm sorry, but what I took away from this is that our OB is an asshole.

Posted by: ghbucky at February 22, 2017 08:44 PM (D2q91)

57 I was genuine and credible.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Bundy at February 22, 2017 08:44 PM (Tyii7)

58 Polliwog @53, oh yes, direct observation over a period of years.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:45 PM (QDnY+)

59

Lucy In The Sky With Black Diamonds?

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 22, 2017 08:45 PM (hdoNb)

60 My hope is Sessions is ass deep in draining the DOJ swamp and doesn't have time for public appearances.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 22, 2017 08:45 PM (APQfM)

61
MJ's new name is now...

Neil Diamond.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 22, 2017 08:45 PM (hdoNb)

62 WOW! Wikileaks Document Shows John McCain Requested Donations from Russians

WILLOWED
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 08:28 PM (y3aQB)

Been out most of the day and #fakenewsoutlets ?

*crickets*

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 22, 2017 08:46 PM (Pd7Sl)

63
MJ, you're new name is now...

Lou Diamond Phillips.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 22, 2017 08:46 PM (hdoNb)

64
MJ, you're new name is now....

Screech.

(Dustin Diamond)

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 22, 2017 08:46 PM (hdoNb)

65 Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:45 PM (QDnY+)

My condolences.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 22, 2017 08:46 PM (sEDyY)

66 That's Incredible!

Posted by: And confusing at February 22, 2017 08:46 PM (BO/km)

67 Give McCain credit - he's probably the only person in fedgov who's met openly with the dirtbag Jihadis fighting in Syria AND with our guys, whose boots totally aren't on tje ground there.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (VaQ4B)

68 My friendschs Russians money is needed to stop the hateful Russian loving Trump

Posted by: Juan McFuckstic at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (APQfM)

69 Why would anyone beg for the government to control their lives?

"Mommy!" That's why.

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (/wWB4)

70 Cracklin' Rosie get on board.

Posted by: Un-Prez'nit Toonces at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (Tyii7)

71 Diamonds are Forever

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (IqV8l)

72 Oh I don't want Sessions wasting a minute on statements or appearances.

But the judicial coup stands, with no signs that the administration realizes what the stakes are.

Awaiting restraining order on streamlined deportation procedures (hell, on *all* deportation actions). Waiting with a stopwatch, not a calendar.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:47 PM (QDnY+)

73 Man... those eye charts are getting hard to read.

E .......... K ...............

.........

......... J ?

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (Pd7Sl)

74 >>Trump was more genuine - hate him or love him, he was and still Is his
own man. And I like that about him. Hillary was up for auction to
whoever paid her the most. The worst kind of politician.

Yep.

Hillary is just so dang uncomfortable doing retail politics - she clearly hates talking to/being with strangers, and she is a terrible speaker. Given how little enjoyment she had with the game, it made one wonder why she was there in the first place: greed for power and money. NOT credible at all.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (NOIQH)

75 So who is MJ? I missed the memo.

Posted by: Country Boy - just a humble, occasionally hotheaded poster at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (5hokv)

76 38 Why would anyone beg for the government to control their lives?

If you are weak and fearful, if you lack ambition or personal character, having someone else handle everything is very comforting and soothing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 22, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

Most people don't want Citizenship. That shit is hard. And risky. They would really like Comfortable Serfdom under a Benevolent Monarch.

And dude ... that include the Strong, Smart, and Savvy.

Don't you damn believe for a minute that servitude is only the default position of the "weak". There's plenty of people able to work you and me into the ground, think you and me into the ground, and scheme you and me into the ground ... that want nothing more than to be put into their place.

Because they really just want a place to be put in. And nothing more.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (fiGNd)

77 This gives me hope that my idea of getting Gwyneth Paltrow to endorse my new food product to the stars, the shit sandwich, will be an astounding success.

Invent product

Get retard to endorse it

??

I'm a millionaire

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (6Ll1u)

78
MJ is Sox The Cat's pet, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 22, 2017 08:49 PM (hdoNb)

79
But did you find out who moved your cheese?
Posted by: Lizzy

I remember a meeting of all of IT to watch a movie of that. They also passed out the book.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 08:49 PM (IqV8l)

80 Michael Jackson !

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 08:49 PM (c6/9Q)

81 62 WOW! Wikileaks Document Shows John McCain Requested Donations from Russians

WILLOWED
Posted by: EVLINC!
****

I am giving this the 72hr rule.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2017 08:49 PM (hVdx9)

82 "4. Bush represented the continued Presidency of Reagan, who was truly transformative. "

The primaries were rigged. Grass roots active party members knew they were being punked.
They sold a false bill of goods to the rest.
I couldn't believe it.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 08:50 PM (N4pek)

83 >>I don't mind repeating it, when it's pertinent: McCain is dumber, and more psycho, than even you imagine.

Not speculation.

Wow, considering how dumb and psycho I think he is....not good news.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2017 08:50 PM (NOIQH)

84 But dude, the govt is awesome. They give us stuff like freedom of speech and free birth control and roads!!

Posted by: Someone born 1985-2002 at February 22, 2017 08:50 PM (APQfM)

85 MJ, your new name is...

Diamond Jim Brady

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 08:51 PM (wPiJc)

86 Hillary was up for auction to
whoever paid her the most.

The price was WRONG, bitch!

Posted by: Happy Gilmore at February 22, 2017 08:52 PM (ysprU)

87 Only thing that will help with McCain is out of our hands. Odds with that get better each day, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 08:53 PM (QDnY+)

88 I don't mind repeating it, when it's pertinent: McCain is dumber, and more psycho, than even you imagine.

Not speculation.

I have no argument for this theory.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 08:53 PM (qUNWi)

89 Hillary is just so dang uncomfortable doing retail politics - she clearly hates talking to/being with strangers, and she is a terrible speaker. Given how little enjoyment she had with the game, it made one wonder why she was there in the first place: greed for power and money. NOT credible at all.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2017 08:48 PM (NOIQH)

======

She acted and campaigned (or lack thereof) like she was owed the job, while making her disdain for half the Country well known.

Trump worked his everloving ass off, sometimes doing 4 or more rallies in a day, every day, asking all voters for the job. He asked for the order, like any great salesman, and he got it.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 08:53 PM (YkWXu)

90 Back in the early 80's "Being like the Japs" was all the rage in executive training sessions.

Then Japan's economy went in the crapper and their State welfare for corporations was exposed as to the real "secret" behind their robust economy.

Utter nonsense.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 22, 2017 08:53 PM (5VlCp)

91 The push for socialism is intended to take the current state of affairs - where one class wields power over another - and change the players, but not the play.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 08:53 PM (VaQ4B)

92 Ain't nothin' here that I care to take along. Maybe a bong.

Posted by: Un-Prez'nit Toonces at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (Tyii7)

93 They said there would be no Sudoku!

Posted by: Batterup at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (mtGE/)

94 "4. Bush represented the continued Presidency of Reagan, who was truly transformative. "
*******************

But compared to Dukakis he was the embodyment of a living breathing human being.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (N4pek)

95 Great Bog, I've only been dealing with those *^$#%^&^%#'s for the last couple of decades .... ....

Credible ? WTF ? Yer pullin' my leg, right ?
PDT is the only person running for POTUS in those same couple of decades who has possessed the remotest shred of credibility, imho, which is why I was on his side from minute 1 ....

Thissis alla joak, amirite ? You are describing the class of "people" who need to be extirpated, root & branch, from the Body Politic if this country has the least chance of living up to the dreams of the Founders.

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (Oeb2k)

96 When that old fuck finally dies/retires, look for his imbecilic daughter to take his place.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (APQfM)

97 Where does felon fall on the list

Posted by: Jean at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (zZb/S)

98 I have an excuse note, teach. My doc says I'm allergic to math stuff so...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (4YGWz)

99 MJ is a Spiderman character. Or Michael Jordan.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 08:54 PM (qUNWi)

100 Woo hoo, Ann Coulter on Tucker's show!

Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2017 08:55 PM (GsAUU)

101 For special toady - pick one President from column A and one President from Column B

Posted by: China at February 22, 2017 08:55 PM (mtGE/)

102 Megyn does butt stuff, so you got that.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 08:56 PM (6Ll1u)

103 102 Megyn does butt stuff, so you got that.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 08:56 PM (6Ll1u)

___

Too bad it's a girl.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at February 22, 2017 08:57 PM (APQfM)

104 Obama is both genuine and credible? In what way? Is my reading comprehension lacking?

Posted by: rickl

Yes, that had me scratching my head as well. Maybe he means Obama gave off the appearance of being genuine and credible to gullible, stupid people. Or liberals desperately tried to force themselves to perceive him that way, to avoid being racist.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 08:57 PM (W8bn5)

105 Wow.
The KU Jayhawks have just clinched at least a tie for their 13th straight conference championship.
That has lnly happened once before in, as grammie would say, the history of things happening.
Of course we all know what a lousy basketball conference the Big 12 is.
Riiiight.

Posted by: teej at February 22, 2017 08:58 PM (mzTVj)

106 OP is pretty dumb. None of this makes sense.

Posted by: MJ at February 22, 2017 08:59 PM (CNkLk)

107 MJ is a Spiderman character. Or Michael Jordan.

Posted by: eleven

*ahem*

Posted by: the King of Pop at February 22, 2017 08:59 PM (W8bn5)

108 Genuine is a good, woody word, isn't ot? Credible - well, it's not altogether tinny....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:00 PM (VaQ4B)

109 Jack Nicholson--great actor. Elizabeth Berkley--not so much.

Having a hard time seeing Jack Nicholson in Showgirls..

Posted by: Batterup at February 22, 2017 09:00 PM (mtGE/)

110 And for the record, the correct pronunciation is:

Jen-Yoo-Wine

Boy howdy!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 09:00 PM (wPiJc)

111 The movie was supposed to be "Isla de la Mujeres Negro", they pulled at and are showing a cop soap.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:02 PM (N4pek)

112 OP is pretty dumb. None of this makes sense.

Posted by: MJ at February 22, 2017 08:59 PM (CNkLk)

******

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (wPiJc)

113 I'll take over application of learned models for $500, Alex.

Just about everything fits in the 80-20 rule. Meaning that 20% is outliers.

Clinton v Bush is one of the 20 I think. Clinton could fake sincerity like crazy. But WWII pilot CIA head former VP 90% popularity after a smashing victory in Desert Storm guy wasn't credible?

Yeah no.

Someone referred to change, and Clintons election certainly hinged on that. And I note there is no comparo on Clinton and Dole.

Not to poopoo the whole thing. An interesting analysis but not necessarily a useful one. I mean, Seth Rogen is both genuine and credible as a stoner,that doesn't make him a good actor.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (HV1LS)

114 You'd be surprised at what tight ass phonies most executards are. Oh wait, no you wouldn't. It's every bit as bad as you can imagine.

Not at all surprised. Suits drive me fucking nuts.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (0mRoj)

115 >>>Jen-Yoo-Wine

You say "Jen, you whine". I say "Jen, you win". Potayto, potahto.

Posted by: the King of Pop at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (W8bn5)

116 Jake Gyllenhall might be a pretty good actor but there is no way on this godly earth he could pull off Colonel Jessup. It takes a Jack Nicholson to do that.

Jack Nicholson--great actor. Elizabeth Berkley--not so much.

Sensing a theme here...

Posted by: Batterup at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (mtGE/)

117 off pedo sleestak sock.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (W8bn5)

118 So I got done with the Ben Shapiro thread. Wow.

I then went on twitter and found my way to SooperMexicans page. I never really found him funny but man that dude has Trump derangement syndrome too.

I just don't understand why folks on the right aren't happy with the ONLY fighter we've had in the presidency since, Reagan?

It's as if people would rather the country have fallen off the cliff.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (nDcc3)

119 110. 'Gin you win.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:05 PM (VaQ4B)

120 Jack Nicholson--great actor. Elizabeth Berkley--not so much.

I saw her name and thought, "Wow, she was a hottie. I haven't thought of her in years."

I did an image search, and it's not the woman I was thinking of.

So who was I thinking of? Who had a similar name?

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

121 I get the impression that we can't rule out how the mainstream media does its utmost to shape each candidate's image. They made Obama look genuine and credible by virtue of hiding things that the public, if they knew, would not trust about the guy. On the other hand, McCain acted like he just didn't want to win (the media ended up going full character-assassination on Sarah Palin when it turned out she did), and Romney acted wooden and unrelatable all by himself. I'm curious to see how to look at that metric. I think some nominees' apparent genuineness and credibility are affected more than others by the media's influence.

We could also apply it to the primaries. Take this year's primary: Trump have everyone beat on either metric, as he needed to beat them. Some candidates who were more genuine (e.g. Ben Carson) he beat by being more credible (i.e. sounding more like he knows what he's doing than Ben Carson did); others who were more credible (e.g. Ted Cruz) he beat by being more genuine (really, more genuine than all the career politicians). Wonder if other primaries could be compared that way too.

Posted by: They Can't Have My French Fries at February 22, 2017 09:05 PM (9F4vW)

122 Elizabeth Hurley.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:06 PM (YkWXu)

123 Holy crap....Cuse beat the Dukies.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:06 PM (qUNWi)

124 Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 22, 2017 09:03 PM (nDcc3)

Had to unfollow him - about to do the same with BaseballCrank - he is constantly concerned. Much concern

Posted by: Batterup at February 22, 2017 09:06 PM (mtGE/)

125 Elizabeth Hurley.

Mmmmmm....

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:06 PM (qUNWi)

126

It's as if people would rather the country have fallen off the cliff.
Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend

Many were planning on it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

127 @118 I think some of the #nevertrumpers don't like Trumps fight because he shows them up as whatever they are. Imagine Jeb Bush thinking wow that guy won,and then has to sit and watch that guy keep winning.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:07 PM (HV1LS)

128 Yes, that had me scratching my head as well. Maybe he means Obama gave off the appearance of being genuine and credible to gullible, stupid people. Or liberals desperately tried to force themselves to perceive him that way, to avoid being racist.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 08:57 PM (W8bn5)

I'm going with gullible and stupid. Nobody above a single digit IQ could see Obama as anything other than what he was. A Hussein on a suicide run to destroy the frigging country.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 22, 2017 09:08 PM (aMlLZ)

129 122 Elizabeth Hurley.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:06 PM (YkWXu)

No, not her either. She's a 1, of course, but not her.

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

130 3. Don't make me go chasing down Tom Petty songs again.

Posted by: sawhorse at February 22, 2017 09:08 PM (JIz7y)

131 I just don't understand why folks on the right aren't happy with the ONLY fighter we've had in the presidency since, Reagan?

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well, I'm guessing , just like the media, THEY did not make him, so it upset them, king makers no more, loss of status, influence etc

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:08 PM (c6/9Q)

132 Assad? Assad is now our friend helping us fight ISIS

Posted by: Him at February 22, 2017 09:09 PM (4ke74)

133 I think MJ is a new persona ace is working.

A sock to put some writing out here without the expectation of dick jokes.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:09 PM (HV1LS)

134 No, not her either. She's a 1, of course, but not her.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

====

Elizabeth Shue? I'm starting to run out of them here.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:09 PM (YkWXu)

135 Jeb Bush lost 33 Million Dollars of donor money per convention delegate. I'd never show my face in public after that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:09 PM (LTHVh)

136 Elisabeth Shue?

Posted by: sweep the leg at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (wpC7C)

137 No, it was something like Berkley or Barkley.

Not Ellen Barkin, either.

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (sdi6R)

138 Are we sure Sessions is still alive?

Take it for what it is, but I heard on the Joe Walsh radio show this evening that Betsy DeVos was against Trump revoking Barry's tranny bathroom order but Sessions was strongly in favor of it and pushed for it. Don't know where Walsh got the info from but that's what he said.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (auHtY)

139 STFU, Dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (LTHVh)

140 FFS!
I come here and get redirected via Java. Not realizing it was on, I turned it off.
I come back...and get re-directed via Flash Player.
Grrrr.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2017 09:11 PM (hVdx9)

141 79 But did you find out who moved your cheese?
Posted by: Lizzy

I remember a meeting of all of IT to watch a movie of that. They also passed out the book.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 08:49 PM (IqV8l)

I was forced to read it as well. Didn't like it. Others did.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 22, 2017 09:11 PM (nvMvs)

142 Sessions is fine, working hard

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:11 PM (c6/9Q)

143 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2017 08:30

Jane, I posted condolences on the death of Sparky but I don't think you were around. How is the other cat doing since then?

Posted by: Farmer at February 22, 2017 09:11 PM (o/90i)

144 Elisabeth Shue?

Mmmm....Palmetto.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:11 PM (qUNWi)

145 And Chosen Pronoun shows up with yet another utterly boring, and altogether redundant demonstration of his willful, obstinate idiocy. Neither credible nor genuine. Sad.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (VaQ4B)

146 Obama was more credible than McCain.

Jesus, at one point I'm fairly sure McCain endorsed him.

Posted by: MJ at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNkLk)

147 I REALLY hate that the site redirects to App Store trick on iPhone. Hate hate hate.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (HV1LS)

148 Charles Barkley?

Posted by: Coyotes at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (oVJmc)

149 Cindy Brinkley!

Posted by: batterup at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (mtGE/)

150 137 No, it was something like Berkley or Barkley.

Not Ellen Barkin, either.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (sdi6R)

Charles?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (0mRoj)

151 Obama was more credible than McCain.

Jesus, at one point I'm fairly sure McCain endorsed him.

Posted by: MJ at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNkLk)

Just giving a reach around across the aisle

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (auHtY)

152 Trump is literally our only hope before the shooting starts. I don't get the TDS either.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

153 Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:10 PM (sdi6R)

Elizabeth Berkley of Saved By the Bell & Showgirls fame ?

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (y3aQB)

154 Got it! It was Elizabeth Ashley.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z9jov5d

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

155 Elizabeth Berkley--not so much.

So who was I thinking of? Who had a similar name?

*****

Charles Barkley?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 22, 2017 09:14 PM (wPiJc)

156 Huntley Brinkley

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:14 PM (IqV8l)

157 You know who's not credible? The Hulk. Says so right in his name. But he's very genuine.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 22, 2017 09:14 PM (M+xKj)

158 Audra Barkley

Posted by: teej at February 22, 2017 09:15 PM (mzTVj)

159 Elizabeth...Taylor !

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:15 PM (c6/9Q)

160 @154 I thought that was the married people cheating site?

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:15 PM (HV1LS)

161 Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

You have the wrong Astley, you want this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Posted by: batterup at February 22, 2017 09:15 PM (mtGE/)

162 Elizabeth..Banks !

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:15 PM (c6/9Q)

163 Genuine but not Credible: Corinthian Leather

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (oVJmc)

164 You people are flailing!

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (qUNWi)

165 Could'ya, would'ya, say a simple prayer or notion on my behalf?
Nope, not ill, far as know.

Appreciate it, I surely do.

Posted by: micky at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (o5vMc)

166
Christy Brinkley?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (auHtY)

167 Elizabeth ... Warren !

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (c6/9Q)

168 Elizabeth Ashley is nice, but she is no Elizabeth Montgomery. Bewitchin'

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (7N6ox)

169 thathalfrican it seems that a large number of non-authoritarian, non-racist (i.e. "conservative") sorts will have to be dragged, literally kicking and screaming - and fulminating and self-beclowning ..... to the realization of many core policy goals they have always championed.

?????

And I'm not that interested in the "fighting" part - though it is highly entertaining, if a bit scary when one sees how shallow, stupid, or alien so many Trump critics are - I'm only really interested in the results part. If he achieves important goals with nothing but rainbows and sprinkles and cute puppy dogs, fine. Or whatever.

And, all of 4 weeks in, we actually have results to talk about, already.

Just pick any of several specific things that have been done. Take the roll-back, through an existing but unused process involving congressional votes, of pernicious regulations on coal mining.

In both process and substance, this comparatively small thing towers above almost anything that's been done (domestically) in ...... years and years and years. This alone should be the subject of much rejoicing. Instead? What you are seeing.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (QDnY+)

170 Elisabeth ... Rohm!

Posted by: is it because I'm a lesbian? at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (wpC7C)

171 There is a rumor that has been around for years. It is that Juan McCain started the flight deck fire on the uss Forrestal. Research has been done. Google it. That is all

Posted by: Elliot Snavely at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (OgvIy)

172 Elizabeth Shue in The Saint.
Ouch.

Posted by: teej at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (mzTVj)

173 Gladys Berkowitz?

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (ZIFyZ)

174 Trump is literally our only hope before the shooting starts. I don't get the TDS either.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2017 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

Yeah, trump is like the aeronautics dude that understands airplanes but never flew one, and then has to grab the controls of a plane about to nose dive into the dirt. Not gonna be pretty, a lot of bumps and bruises, but damn everyone lives! The last hope before high speed dirt.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (aMlLZ)

175 Liz Phair?

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:17 PM (qUNWi)

176 Elizabeth Regina?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 22, 2017 09:18 PM (oVJmc)

177 Buzby Berkley?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:18 PM (W8bn5)

178 Elizabeth Shue in The Saint.
Ouch.

Adventures of a Babysitter

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 22, 2017 09:18 PM (y3aQB)

179 I remembered that whoever it was was on the cover of the Nov. 22, 1963 Life magazine. So I checked the Google Books archive of Life magazine, and there she was.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jozsw6c

Say what you will about Google, but that Life archive practically makes up for anything else they've done.

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

180

Cindy Brady?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2017 09:18 PM (auHtY)

181 Elizabeth... Olsen (and her twin sister)

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:19 PM (c6/9Q)

182 Fawn Leibowitz?

A Canticle for Fawn Leibowitz?????

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:19 PM (qUNWi)

183 Maybe rickl is experiencing the Mandela effect: ie. he's remembering something from another timeline.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:19 PM (W8bn5)

184 174.

***continues accumulating emergency supplies***

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (VaQ4B)

185 141 79 But did you find out who moved your cheese?

No. No no no, oh HELL no. Management fad books are of the Devil.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (0mRoj)

186 182
Fawn Leibowitz?

A Canticle for Fawn Leibowitz?????

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:19 PM (qUNWi)

She was something before the kiln accident.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (7N6ox)

187 There is a rumor that has been around for years. It is that Juan McCain started the flight deck fire on the uss Forrestal. Research has been done. Google it. That is all

Who would start such a rumor? I mean, it's not like there isn't video footage pre-debunking the idea.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (LTHVh)

188 you sure it was not Elizabeth and Ashley Olsen ?

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:21 PM (c6/9Q)

189 188 you sure it was not Elizabeth and Ashley Olsen ?
Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:21 PM (c6/9Q)

Elizabeth is the non-twin.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:21 PM (0mRoj)

190 i am so confused

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:22 PM (c6/9Q)

191 Good call on Samantha, Mouse.

Christy Brinkly. Yeah, nice.
But I'll take our very own Christy Blinky, thanks.
Haven't seen her around lately. Hope she's well. Will always appreciate her work staying on top of Benghazi.

Posted by: teej at February 22, 2017 09:22 PM (mzTVj)

192 A better test in the modern era is which candidate is intentionally a funnier person (better sense of humor). Works for every election at least back to Nixon.

Posted by: Mega at February 22, 2017 09:22 PM (EdXI9)

193 Heard he wasn't the most liked aboard ship.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:22 PM (N4pek)

194 No. No no no, oh HELL no. Management fad books are of the Devil.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (0mRoj)

======

We ain't all bad, Insomniac. See #31.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:23 PM (YkWXu)

195 Elizabeth Ashley?

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:23 PM (N4pek)

196 McCain is in Syria now. That will improve things.

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (c6/9Q)

197 You want to be a good manager? Coach little league baseball. All the principles are there.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (LTHVh)

198 187
Who would start such a rumor? I mean, it's not like there isn't video footage pre-debunking the idea.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (LTHVh)

The hell you say!

Posted by: Moon landing conspiracy theorists at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

199 >>>Got it! It was Elizabeth Ashley.

Never heard of her, now I don't feel so bad.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (W8bn5)

200 Heard he wasn't the most liked aboard ship.
Posted by: gNewt

Cuz he kept stealing the goddam strawberries!

Posted by: Capt. Queeg at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (QDr6b)

201 Mathematical Precision.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (LTHVh)

202 Liz Phair?

My would-be girlfriend

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (TppKb)

203 Elizabeth Ashley?

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:23 PM (N4pek)
Ashton Kutcher

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (c6/9Q)

204 (better sense of humor). Works for every election at least back to Nixon.

It's a wonder Hillary got any votes at all.

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (8zL5i)

205 Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:07 PM (HV1LS)

Well, if Cruz can get over it and he had a lot of reasons to be angry and bitter.

Everyone else can too.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at February 22, 2017 09:26 PM (nDcc3)

206 I just have two words for you. Total Quality Management.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:26 PM (JO9+V)

207 Mathematical Precision.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (LTHVh)

Woodoo Economics

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:26 PM (c6/9Q)

208 Liz Phair?

My would-be girlfriend

hard to believe she's 50.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (LTHVh)

209 Elizabeth Montgomery!

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (/wWB4)

210 I wish cotton was a monkey. And it'd bite Annie Liebowitz face.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Kenobe at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (gyCU3)

211 W. Edwards Deming

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (IqV8l)

212 Where is Rowan Morrison?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (VaQ4B)

213 171>> That's some weapons grade stupid. STFU.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (ZuWqx)

214 McCain is in Syria now. That will improve things.

Posted by: runner

If the rebels get him, would AZ elect another R? (not that he's much of an R to begin with).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (W8bn5)

215 194 No. No no no, oh HELL no. Management fad books are of the Devil.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:20 PM (0mRoj)

======

We ain't all bad, Insomniac. See #31.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:23 PM (YkWXu)

You're a management fad book? How the hell do you type?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (0mRoj)

216 211. Heh.....that's my homeboy!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (VaQ4B)

217 It's a wonder Hillary got any votes at all.
Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:25 PM (8zL5i)

WINNING BEE-OTCHES

Posted by: Hillary's Liver at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (mtGE/)

218 >>>Got it! It was Elizabeth Ashley.

Never heard of her, now I don't feel so bad.

Common reportage has it that then-husband George Peppard walked away from his highly remunerative series 'Banacek' in order to minimize her divorce take.

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (TppKb)

219 You've got lingerie football, why isn't there the same thing for baseball and basketball and soccer? I could get rich broadcasting these as a substitute for those boycotting pro sports, and horny guys in general.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (6Ll1u)

220 Where is Rowan Morrison?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (VaQ4B)

On Laugh In reruns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (auHtY)

221 200 Heard he wasn't the most liked aboard ship.
Posted by: gNewt

Cuz he kept stealing the goddam strawberries!
Posted by: Capt. Queeg at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (QDr6b)

Proved with geometric logic.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (0mRoj)

222 >>>Got it! It was Elizabeth Ashley.

Never heard of her, now I don't feel so bad.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:24 PM (W8bn5)

Surely you've heard of her cousin Rick? He had a worldwide number 1 hit in 1987 - 1988.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:29 PM (JO9+V)

223 If the rebels get him, would AZ elect another R? (not that he's much of an R to begin with).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (W8bn5)

here is my plan - GOv. Palin to AZ. problem solved. TQM

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:30 PM (c6/9Q)

224 Oh I was obviously just joshing about Sessions being alive.

Probably won't happen (most of the judiciary is probably scared at the audacity of the coup-plotters who have shown themselves), but would be perfect if the "new, reworked" EO on immigration is also over-ruled by the State Committee on the State of Emergency*, AKA the judiciary, when it is issued.

Just to clarify things, for those who refuse to see them as they are.

* Gang of eight Soviet officials who tried a coup attempt against Yeltsin in August '91

Posted by: rhomboid at February 22, 2017 09:30 PM (QDnY+)

225
Elizabeth Ashley.

Common reportage has it that then-husband George Peppard walked away from his highly remunerative series 'Banacek' in order to minimize her divorce take.
Posted by: JEM

They were married to each other in The Carpetbaggers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:30 PM (IqV8l)

226 206 I just have two words for you. Total Quality Management.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:26 PM (JO9+V)

Jesus, what a waste of time and money. Same with "reengineering" which was the same bullshit in a different wrapper.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:30 PM (0mRoj)

227 McCain is in Syria now. That will improve things.

Why would a Senator travel, let alone be invited?

"Hey, Arizona voted for me so I know all about your country...."

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:31 PM (NBHj5)

228 You're a management fad book? How the hell do you type?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (0mRoj)

=====

I'm the guy who is making it possible for people to get back to focusing on their jobs instead of worrying about that HR fad crap.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:31 PM (YkWXu)

229 MJ is John Malkovich .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 22, 2017 09:31 PM (JsMw3)

230 >>McCain is in Syria now. That will improve things.

Why would a Senator travel, let alone be invited?

"Hey, Arizona voted for me so I know all about your country...."

Posted by: t-bird
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He's not up for reelection this year so he can't be there to build the dang wall.

Posted by: Aviator at February 22, 2017 09:32 PM (/Nite)

231 ah, he is being John Malcovich

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:33 PM (c6/9Q)

232 The hell you say!

Posted by: Moon landing conspiracy theorists

The moon landing was fake. UFOs are real.

Posted by: MJ 12 at February 22, 2017 09:33 PM (W8bn5)

233 228 You're a management fad book? How the hell do you type?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:28 PM (0mRoj)

=====

I'm the guy who is making it possible for people to get back to focusing on their jobs instead of worrying about that HR fad crap.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:31 PM (YkWXu)

Then I tip my hat to you. How did you not get run out of the company for daring to push against the groupthink?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

234 220. Sock it to me? - Richard M. Nixon, a/k/a 'Uncle Nixy' to the Chambers' kids.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:33 PM (hlDpZ)

235 Jesus, what a waste of time and money. Same with "reengineering" which was the same bullshit in a different wrapper.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:30 PM (0mRoj)

That is because you refuse to work smarter, not harder

Posted by: inspirational poster at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (mtGE/)

236 Charlie says you can teach em to type but you can't teach em to grow tits.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (HV1LS)

237 The moon landing was fake. UFOs are real.
Posted by: MJ 12

They filmed the moon landing in a soundest on Mars.

Posted by: Sasquatch at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (QDr6b)

238 "Soundset", damned autocucumber.

Posted by: Sasquatch at February 22, 2017 09:35 PM (QDr6b)

239 W. Edwards Deming

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (IqV8l)

Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:35 PM (N4pek)

240 Posted by: Sasquatch at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (QDr6b)

Can the damn Rovers find the flag we left there? Sheila Jackson Lee, noted Scientist

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 22, 2017 09:36 PM (7N6ox)

241 Genuine (authentic, sincere): mulatto who dissed his own grandmother, wrote two autobiographies full of composite friends, girlfriends.

Credible (able to be believed; convincing).
Examples: "You know, I actually believe my own bullshit." "I never heard Rev. Wright say those things."

I did my own share of corporate team building and HR touchy-feely exercises in the day, and I'm sorry, but this just isn't working for me at all.

We all know that there were two main reasons for Obama's 2008 win: 1) America was ready for a real change and exhausted with the GOPe and Clinton acts and 2) the black guy seemed like a nice guy and it could be a wonderful racial healing moment. It turned out that he wasn't the change we'd been waiting for and was anything but a racial healer, but the GOPe pushed yet another establishment guy with their rope in 2012.

More genuine that Romney? Probably. More credible than Romney? After four years? NFW.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at February 22, 2017 09:36 PM (gNKbf)

242 After we finish the 360 Degree Performance Reviews, we're gonna write a monster Mission Statement. Then we're gonna Six Sigma the fcuk out of this organization!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:36 PM (JO9+V)

243 147 I REALLY hate that the site redirects to App Store trick on iPhone. Hate hate hate.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:12 PM (HV1LS)

Not having problems on my iPad but on my Windows machine, McAfee is giving me warnings about site content.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 22, 2017 09:37 PM (nvMvs)

244 163 Genuine but not Credible: Corinthian Leather
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 22, 2017 09:16 PM (oVJmc)

Fine Corinthian leather

Posted by: KHHHHAAAAAANNNNNNN! at February 22, 2017 09:37 PM (brIR5)

245 iso9000

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:37 PM (IqV8l)

246 242. Oooh! I call dibs on the kaizen-blitz teams!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:37 PM (hlDpZ)

247 Want to be a good manager, be an officer in the services...except Air Force...I keed, I keed. but yeah.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 22, 2017 09:38 PM (cOHS7)

248 After we finish the 360 Degree Performance Reviews

You executives sure got a fancy name for 'circle jerk'!

Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2017 09:38 PM (7H/2n)

249 Oooh! I call dibs on the kaizen-blitz teams!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants

I never had kaizen blintzes before.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 22, 2017 09:39 PM (QDr6b)

250 236 Charlie says you can teach em to type but you can't teach em to grow tits.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (HV1LS)

Male 702s?

Posted by: KHHHHAAAAAANNNNNNN! at February 22, 2017 09:39 PM (brIR5)

251 That is because you refuse to work smarter, not harder
Posted by: inspirational poster at February 22, 2017 09:34 PM (mtGE/)

I should've added more exclamation points to make it more exciting.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:39 PM (0mRoj)

252 inthink the sitting president is more credible than the not president. Especially the not president that has already been told once by his party that he should not be president.

The exception is Reagan. But Reagan.

Hillary or Romney aren't exactly in that category.

Posted by: MJ at February 22, 2017 09:39 PM (CNkLk)

253 Then I tip my hat to you. How did you not get run out of the company for daring to push against the groupthink?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

=====

A recent double jump in position gave me great autonomy in making this happen. I let it be known to the only 2 individuals above me that I planned to do this during the interview process.

I think they were tired of the crap as well, and are happy to have someone to point at when the HR types lost their shit.

I came from the trenches, and the response there is very positive.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:40 PM (YkWXu)

254 International space station cuts cameras off when UFO's fly by. It will take a few more years for the government to admit aliens from different planets exist. Right now they seem content talking about aliens from earth. It's a trap.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:40 PM (6Ll1u)

255 Hello! May we be of service?

Posted by: The Hay Group at February 22, 2017 09:41 PM (JO9+V)

256 Video surfaced Wednesday afternoon showing [Paul] Ryan riding a horse during his visit to the southwestern border; the Speaker did not appear to be wearing a riding helmet.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 09:41 PM (N4pek)

257 ISO9000- from the continent that gave you Karl Marx and socialized medicine. Stick to wine and cheese, Euroweenies.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 22, 2017 09:41 PM (JyFLk)

258 I never had kaizen blintzes before.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 22, 2017 09:39 PM (QDr6b)

kaizen blintzen is a type of Austrian waltz

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:41 PM (c6/9Q)

259 Also re credibility I think the elites thought that all their Ivy League education made them credible but people saw all though that as this century has been suboptimal so far.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (HV1LS)

260 242 After we finish the 360 Degree Performance Reviews, we're gonna write a monster Mission Statement. Then we're gonna Six Sigma the fcuk out of this organization!
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:36 PM (JO9+V)

Vice making a good product at a reasonable price, and having good customer support....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (qf6WZ)

261 Boobies...where are the boobies?

Posted by: Bob at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (n3hky)

262 W. Edwards Deming

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:27 PM (IqV8l)

Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Posted by: gNewt

Deming with faint praise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (W8bn5)

263 249. You'll like them. They get better every single time they're made.

*six-sigma rimshot*

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:43 PM (hlDpZ)

264 I came from the trenches, and the response there is very positive.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:40 PM (YkWXu)

That makes a YUUUGE difference.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:43 PM (0mRoj)

265 Well, there's my issue right there: the lat president I thought was credible was.......shoot. I never beleived a single one of them.
Bush II was genuine enough.

Of course, so was Obama if you always kept in mind who his mentor was, and so what he meant wasn't what everybody heard......

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (Zmu3u)

266 The real problem with the genuine/credible "analysis" is that the two properties are in no way independent.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (WDdjT)

267 Flaw in the lede and some of the commentary is its bias about how YOU picked the Presidential winner. Instead it's about how winning coalitions of millions coalesce around particular candidates. Lots of folks for Hillary didn't think she was genuine or credible.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (bQxkN)

268 Vice making a good product at a reasonable price, and having good customer support....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (qf6WZ)

Sorry, that is the old and busted paradigm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (JO9+V)

269 Peter F. Drucker.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (W8bn5)

270 251? Naahhh...you're thinking Lean; doing more with less.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:45 PM (hlDpZ)

271 It will take a few more years for the government to admit aliens from different planets exist.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:40 PM

I was supposed to be probed by now.

Posted by: Hope Solo at February 22, 2017 09:45 PM (DMUuz)

272 All that bullshit just gets in the way of running a business. It's all a waste of time. Meetings should not take more than 5 minutes, including donuts.

Posted by: freaked at February 22, 2017 09:47 PM (BO/km)

273 268 Vice making a good product at a reasonable price, and having good customer support....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 22, 2017 09:42 PM (qf6WZ)

Sorry, that is the old and busted paradigm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (JO9+V)

You mean a forward transition to the new paradigm.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

274 NASA X-37b has been in space for two years now getting the aliens ready for life on Earth. It's a pipe dream for sure.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:47 PM (6Ll1u)

275 I was supposed to be probed by now.

Posted by: Hope Solo at February 22, 2017 09:45 PM (DMUuz)

Sorry. The double-ought size anal probes are back-ordered on Zeta Reticuli.

Posted by: Gray Alien at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (WDdjT)

276 Peter F. Drucker.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

His brother Sam has a nice store. A bit pricey though.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (QDr6b)

277 Naahhh...you're thinking Lean; doing more with less.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan!
No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:45 PM
(hlDpZ)

like they invented that. Pharaoh practiced Lean way back - make bricks without straw, he said.

Posted by: runner at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (c6/9Q)

278 That makes a YUUUGE difference.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:43 PM (0mRoj)

====

Yep. I got the double jump because my new boss was an outside hire, who had only been there 4 months when his boss retired with serious health issues.

This is a Yuugguge Asian Electronics Mfr, and deep down they love loyalty and longevity.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (YkWXu)

279 Peter F. Drucker.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 22, 2017 09:44 PM (W8bn5)
Fuck him

Posted by: Phil Crosby at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (QPdNE)

280 Audrey Hepburn is lovely and regal in Roman Holiday, now on TCM

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 22, 2017 09:49 PM (bQxkN)

281 Graphs and charts trigger me. I must adjourn to my fainting couch.

That or I have had a couple of whiskey cocktails and I am currently distracted by "Into the Night," from Desolation Boulevard, Sweet's second best album.

the first being Give Us a Wink.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 22, 2017 09:49 PM (jmfZE)

282 AOP, can you drop me a line at the nic with no spaces or punctuation at the yahoo. I have a question, and one from Gushie.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 22, 2017 09:49 PM (hscyr)

283 I just don't understand why folks on the right aren't happy with the ONLY fighter we've had in the presidency since, Reagan?

It's as if people would rather the country have fallen off the cliff.
Posted by: thathalfrican

For far too many, have their political views enmeshed with their personality to the point where they can't separate the two.

Further, I think the 'professional' right is in love with some kind of statesman-like ideal of a hero. If that form of hero isn't at the head of the parade, they screech like scorned banshees.

It's just too much for some that the Right doesn't have the perfect Hercules in a short tunic flashing those conservative calves on command.

They have my pity.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2017 09:50 PM (4YGWz)

284 Sasquatch always bigfoots the punchline.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:50 PM (qUNWi)

285 Anyone who suggests "thinking outside the box" spends a night in the box.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:50 PM (0mRoj)

286 274 NASA X-37b has been in space for two years now getting the aliens ready for life on Earth. It's a pipe dream for sure.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:47 PM (6Ll1u)

The aliens hijacked it. That's why it hasn't landed yet.

(Actually, it's Air Force, not NASA, which adds to the mystery quotient.)

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 09:51 PM (sdi6R)

287
His brother Sam has a nice store. A bit pricey though.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

Cheaper than Haney.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 22, 2017 09:51 PM (IqV8l)

288 The Accountant is a pretty decent movies despite being Affleck.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:52 PM (HV1LS)

289 e-mail sent, Bebe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 22, 2017 09:52 PM (WDdjT)

290 278. Congratulations!

Be happy in your work.

Heh.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:53 PM (hlDpZ)

291 Anyone who suggests "thinking outside the box" spends a night in the box.

Seriously...we need to get back to thinking inside the freaking box for a while.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 09:53 PM (qUNWi)

292 I was told there would be no math!

Posted by: Harry Dicks at February 22, 2017 09:53 PM (kIyp0)

293 So we still never figured out who this MJ character is?

I don't spend all day, morning noon and night at the ol' AoSHQ, so I live in fear that a meme will start without my knowledge.

I guess the "who is MJ" meme is NOT without my knowledge, because nobody else knows either.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2017 09:53 PM (Pz4pT)

294 MJ=mary-juwanna?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 22, 2017 09:54 PM (WDdjT)

295 Can willow stop by so the ONT goes up?

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (HV1LS)

296 277. Yet more theft of African technology by the evil Ice-People.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (hlDpZ)

297 Hell, I almost never get hit by popups or any of that stuff. Virtually no ads. I use Pale Moon, sometimes Brave, Duck Duck Go, but Google almost never. I've blocked Twitter and Facebook completely (no Dana Loesch et al.)

It's a little preview of the future; when Big Tech expels us for Crimethink, we'll all be back to BBS and shortwave radio anyway.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (Xzn5i)

298 This is a Yuugguge Asian Electronics Mfr, and deep down they love loyalty and longevity.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 09:48 PM (YkWXu)

Interesting. Loyalty and longevity aren't valued much anymore. Now it's mostly about kissing the right ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (0mRoj)

299 Genuine imitation Rolex watches!
Watch out for fakes!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (hVdx9)

300 Operate a BBS on the Internet. Hmmm.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 09:56 PM (HV1LS)

301 Guess what? "Eeeny Meeny Miney Moe" is racist.

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2017 09:56 PM (z/Ubi)

302 I just don't understand why folks on the right aren't happy with the ONLY fighter we've had in the presidency since, Reagan?

It's as if people would rather the country have fallen off the cliff.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Great observation. I was not enthusiastic about the NOTION of DJT as president, but I am loving the REALITY of President Trump. the thing is, he talks like a businessman, not a politician. But he also works like a businessman. It's results that count. And DJT is getting results. But there are areas where he has to play the long game, and so far I think he is doing that right as well. We just have to be patient.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 22, 2017 09:57 PM (jmfZE)

303 280 Audrey Hepburn is lovely and regal in Roman Holiday, now on TCM
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 22, 2017 09:49 PM (bQxkN)

Yes, she is. One of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at February 22, 2017 09:57 PM (nvMvs)

304 @288 The Accountant is a pretty decent movies despite being Affleck.
----------------

Is it?

IIRC, Larry Correia, who was an accountant and gun instructor before he became an author, was mocking it.

Posted by: junior at February 22, 2017 09:58 PM (nsZ+m)

305 also, most people are clown farts.

animated clown farts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2017 09:58 PM (4YGWz)

306 For far too many, have their political views enmeshed with their personality to the point where they can't separate the two.

Further, I think the 'professional' right is in love with some kind of statesman-like ideal of a hero. If that form of hero isn't at the head of the parade, they screech like scorned banshees.

It's just too much for some that the Right doesn't have the perfect Hercules in a short tunic flashing those conservative calves on command.

They have my pity.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2017 09:50 PM (4YGWz)

Yup, it's brand name loyalty, all the way down. That, and love of illegal messicans.

If these people were in charge of the Coca-Cola Bottling Co., they'd still be selling New Coke.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 22, 2017 09:58 PM (Pz4pT)

307 298. I was with Samsung in one of their fabs. Yep, the company invests heavily in their people and want to keep them. It's good business.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:58 PM (hlDpZ)

308 Your right Rickl, it is Air Force, what's up with that by the way? Not really their mission. The wild blue yonder I guess.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:59 PM (6Ll1u)

309 More whippin', less whinin'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (LTHVh)

310 @304 yeah. I mean I guess to Correia it is all bullshit but I am neither accountant or gun instructor so it offended none of my sensibilities.

For a Redbox viewing you won't go well I will never get those two hours back.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (HV1LS)

311 Interesting. Loyalty and longevity aren't valued much anymore. Now it's mostly about kissing the right ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (0mRoj)

======

Not if you are not a protected company, like GE or Lockheed. This is the real world. #resultsmatter

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (YkWXu)

312 AMD has officially released Ryzen CPUs and prices for presale. Ryzen will be available for purchase for shipping or over-the-counter on March 2.

The pricing/performance edge over Intel is astounding.

LINK: https://youtu.be/QlWbpUDOigU

Posted by: mrp at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (JBggj)

313 More whippin', less whinin'.

The story of my love life.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (qUNWi)

314 Your right Rickl, it is Air Force, what's up with that by the way? Not really their mission. The wild blue yonder I guess.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 22, 2017 09:59 PM (6Ll1u)
********************
The Army is going to take Warthogs and ground support away from them so they've got to go somewhere.

Posted by: gNewt at February 22, 2017 10:01 PM (N4pek)

315 I was with Samsung in one of their fabs. Yep, the company invests heavily in their people and want to keep them. It's good business.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 22, 2017 09:58 PM (hlDpZ)

=====

Bingo! On my employer.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 10:02 PM (YkWXu)

316 302
Great observation. I was not enthusiastic about the NOTION of DJT as president, but I am loving the REALITY of President Trump. the thing is, he talks like a businessman, not a politician. But he also works like a businessman. It's results that count. And DJT is getting results. But there are areas where he has to play the long game, and so far I think he is doing that right as well. We just have to be patient.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 22, 2017 09:57 PM (jmfZE)

I supported Trump during the primaries, and so far he is exceeding my expectations. I am very happy so far.

I think it's very interesting that he played the Rolling Stones song "You Can't Always Get What You Want" in his campaign rallies. He just might be the President we need at the moment.

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2017 10:02 PM (sdi6R)

317 O N T.

If you want it.

Posted by: eleven at February 22, 2017 10:02 PM (qUNWi)

318 *peers into thread*

So, who is this MJ? Most of the people who show up as cobs are well known commenters who appear to have been dragooned into service. I suspect for most of them it's a punishment for aggravated depravity or worse.

This is like the third MJ post I've seen, but I'm not familiar with MJ. Has this been asked and answered? I haven't played in any MJ threads yet.*

*after typing and before hitting post it occurred to me to hit ctrl+F and see if the MJ question had come up. Apparently it has. But I already paid for all those ascii characters so I'm not going to waste them to the delete key.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 22, 2017 10:03 PM (mgbwf)

319 @314 notgonnahappen.com.

I first heard the Army was going to take A10s in 1987.

Yeah, thirty years ago.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2017 10:03 PM (HV1LS)

320 I think there's an old joke that goes: Nothing is more important than sincerity. Once you learn to fake that, you're all set.

Enough people saw Clinton fake it (and everything) that allowed Trump to be elected. I don't think Trump faked much if anything and what he said was only radical, or not credible, by the lights of the MSM and libtards. But I repeat myself.

Anyone who has been successful in sales or in making persuasive presentations will recognize the value of 'genuine' and 'credible' and the other acting exercises MJ mentioned.

Posted by: JTB at February 22, 2017 10:03 PM (V+03K)

321 How does one know what members of th Electoral College consider genuine and credible? This therory is neither itself.

Posted by: Wtp at February 22, 2017 10:04 PM (WQfDg)

322 AMD has officially released Ryzen CPUs and prices for presale. Ryzen will be available for purchase for shipping or over-the-counter on March 2.

Posted by: mrp

Great. Another socket that will only keep mobo's stupidly expensive.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 22, 2017 10:04 PM (4YGWz)

323 311 Interesting. Loyalty and longevity aren't valued much anymore. Now it's mostly about kissing the right ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 09:55 PM (0mRoj)

======

Not if you are not a protected company, like GE or Lockheed. This is the real world. #resultsmatter
Posted by: Flyboy at February 22, 2017 10:00 PM (YkWXu)

Experiences vary, I guess. My exposure to the professional and corporate world has shown me that, in general, sucking up to the right people goes further than doing your job well or being loyal to the business.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2017 10:05 PM (0mRoj)

324 @298 Interesting. Loyalty and longevity aren't valued much anymore. Now it's mostly about kissing the right ass.
-------------------

Usually depends on various factors. A lot of times, the people who start up a company value it more than the people they eventually put in charge.

The company I was working for a couple of years ago brought on a new head to lead the company at the end of 2014. By the end of 2016, they'd had two huge layoffs. And nearly everyone who was working there two years ago is gone. The first layoff (which was nearly half the company) had a pretty good financial reason (lost contract) at the time. But so far as I can tell the second one was pretty much sweeping out the old employees to bring in replacements. Makes me wonder if the first layoff really was only because of the lost contract, or whether the new head was just looking for an excuse to dump everyone.

Posted by: junior at February 22, 2017 10:05 PM (nsZ+m)

325 I was supposed to be probed by now.
Posted by: Hope Solo

You were. Didn't you notice?

Posted by: the greys at February 22, 2017 10:06 PM (6FqZa)

326 Thanks AOP! Answered.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 22, 2017 10:14 PM (hscyr)

327 >>You get the point. It's a fun thought experiment based on what I'm convinced are the only two characteristics that matter.

It is, but it's woefully incomplete. As a global executard myself who learned by doing it, it is far more complicated than just who is or who isn't genuine and credible.

When it comes to Presidential elections, look at our media. Look at the environment. Look at incumbency. Look at the friggin electorate.

Just a few of the factors that have an enormous effect on elections in addition to who appears genuine and credible, neither of which a significant portion of the country think the candidate on the other side often if ever is.

I don't know a single person on the right who thought that Obama was genuine or credible in either of his races. Yet he started both races with a majority of electoral votes as all recent Democrat presidential candidates do. And unless you were skeptical and hunted for news beyond the mainstream you thought he was a) brilliant b) accomplished beyond politics and c) ever successful. He was and is none of these things.

Incumbency is widely regarded as being worth 3-5 points. Obama had the media in his pocket in a way no modern candidate ever has, not Bubba and definitely not Hillary. And the electorate, which in relatively good times is pretty much status quo, is fucking pissed and polarized like never in my lifetime.

I don't see Trump as all that genuine or credible. I see him as a chameleon who more than anything wants to win bigly. Anyone who has seen him through the years knows that the positions he holds now are not the positions he held just a couple years ago and likely not the ones he will hold in a couple years. But once he does adopt a position, in the short run he fights like hell to win at all costs.

That's why I voted for him.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2017 10:14 PM (/tuJf)

328 You guys remember Bubbles the chimp? Haven't seen him around for a looonnnng time have you? consider MJ. High voice, girlish figure, that nose. Bubbles ripped them off. Nutz and nose. Doctors did the best they could. Theory? Or fact?

Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2017 10:18 PM (zLDYs)

329 JS, did you listen to the voodoo show?

Posted by: Clank your chains at February 22, 2017 10:18 PM (M3DRt)

330 @310 yeah. I mean I guess to Correia it is all bullshit but I am neither accountant or gun instructor so it offended none of my sensibilities.
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Good to know. I'll keep it in mind.

Posted by: junior at February 22, 2017 10:18 PM (nsZ+m)

331 318 *peers into thread*

So, who is this MJ? Most of the people who show up as cobs are well known commenters who appear to have been dragooned into service. I suspect for most of them it's a punishment for aggravated depravity or worse.

This is like the third MJ post I've seen, but I'm not familiar with MJ. Has this been asked and answered? I haven't played in any MJ threads yet.*

*after typing and before hitting post it occurred to me to hit ctrl+F and see if the MJ question had come up. Apparently it has. But I already paid for all those ascii characters so I'm not going to waste them to the delete key.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 22, 2017 10:03 PM (mgbwf)

Answered in a previous thread. No I will not tell you the answer or which one it is in.

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2017 10:19 PM (z/Ubi)

332 >>JS, did you listen to the voodoo show?

A part of it the night you posted it. Haven't had a chance to go back and finish but I intend to.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2017 10:24 PM (/tuJf)

333 332, cornell 77 show and 3 others already sold out, crazy.

Posted by: Clank your chains at February 22, 2017 10:32 PM (M3DRt)

334 Rhino records release they just announced. Prob. Most epic Morning Dew.

Posted by: Clank your chains at February 22, 2017 10:34 PM (M3DRt)

335 Ok, McCain is in Syria? If he is looking to locate Alcibiades' monument, it might take awhile.

Posted by: Anne R. Abler at February 22, 2017 11:03 PM (Fq0e/)

336 Genuine and/or credible. Hmmmm...

Back in the early 70s, I would have seriously considered voting for Pat Schroeder had I lived in her district. Although she was very, very left I was convinced that she had arrived at her convictions honestly.

To me, that's the nub of it: do you believe that this person is open to argument?

(Regarding Pat Schroeder, by the end of her 2nd term she had surrendered her brain to Teddy Kennedy. When she ceased thinking for herself it ended any further favorable consideration of her.)

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 22, 2017 11:17 PM (o7l6R)

337 I am so glad I'm not you.

Posted by: jbspry at February 23, 2017 01:50 AM (IhKmM)

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