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Pence Delivers Trump's Message to NATO -- Honor Your Promise to Raise Spending for Your Own Self-Defense -- and NATO Agrees
There's been a lot of stupid talk on this point from liberals their allies the neocon nevertrumpers, who claim that a demand that treaty partners honor their side of a bargain somehow undermines the treaty.
Here's the deal. Suppose I'm a tough guy at school, like Adam Baldwin in My Bodyguard, but with even more GAINZZZ. Suppose I offer my protection to a bunch of pussies, and say I'll fight their fights for them, if they help me with the things they're good at, like homework, playing a female elf cleric in Dungeons & Dragons, and failing at life. I might have a big precondition for the offer of protection. Such as this: * Kid, you gotta train in the basics of fighting with me a couple of times a week and do SQUATZZZ so that you're not such an easy target. Not only does this help you, Kid, it helps me, because the more you can act as your own deterrent system, the less bullies will pick on you, and then the less I'll have to get into fights on your behalf. * Furthermore, in case I wind up getting into more trouble than I can handle, I'd sort of like you to be able to pitch in here and there. Maybe grab one of his arms so I can get in a clean punch, maybe just hold my beer for me while I choke a clown out. Not that unreasonable, right? Since the protection being offered involves risk to the one providing it -- Matt Dylan was supposed to be a tough guy because he like carried a pack of cigarettes in his rolled-up t-shirt sleeve, and plus I've got a sweet motorcycle I'd hate to see thrown in a lake --it's not unreasonable for the person offering the protection and back-up for the protectee to take modest precautions and employ basic deterrent strategies to reduce the protector's costs in the bargain. That was the deal that was struck. The Cassandra Chorus of the neocon nevertrump rump party thinks it's "weak" to ask treaty partners to honor treaty commitments and harden themselves up against a potential aggressor. That is, it's "weak" to demand that treaty partners take the threat of Russian invasion kind of seriously if they expect us to kill tens of thousands of our own servicemen protecting them from that invasion. I think they also consider it kind of "low-class" to take a firm position on our getting our side of the bargain, because, apparently, it's "higher class" to just give away the store for free with no considerations received in return. I think you signal your upper income level by showing off how little fucks you give about return on investment and repayment of loans and stuff. There seems to be a deep undercurrent of that in all the complaints about the America First idea -- that it's all a bit grubby and lower-middle-class to be so concerned about petty things like money. Someone who is very comfortably rich doesn't have to worry about money, and can afford to think only in Ideals without any consideration of pricetag, and I guess we're all supposed to adopt that attitude of the comfortably rich, even if we're not personally rich, and even if the country is not particularly fat with disposable cash at the moment. Anyway, Pence delivered the demand, and NATO is at least providing lip-service to the idea of not being such bully-magnet pussies in the future. I doubt that will ever happen, but the CRISIS IN NATO is at least on pause for a few days, until the poor dears start exciting themselves up all over again, drinking sugared soda and getting all fidgety on gummy worms. I can't help but notice that "conservatism" has been transformed by our alleged intellectuals into a "market-based" justification for endless obligations of welfare to third parties, and in which it's considered unseemly and gross to ask for anything in return for our own exertions on other's behalf. We're supposed to do all of this peace-keeping and international-justice-seeking, precisely as liberals argue, without any actual self-interest to vindicated (having any self-interest in these matters makes taints them with dirty, mercenary greed), and we're always just supposed to do for everyone out of the overflowing munificence of our global citizen heart. "What heart?" -- Tom, Miller's Crossing In Progress: Milo has resigned (probably with encouragement) from Breitbart, and is now giving a press conference, carried in a livestream.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 21, 2017 02:05 PM (r4iHd)
Posted by: DocJ at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (NYS7S)
Oregon pushed down like a fat kid eating an ice cream cone.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: JackStraw's One night stand at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (Enq6K)
1. Get the hell out of the country and you get $0 from this point forward.
2. You get $0 from this point forward and get the hell out of the country.
Choose wisely.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 21, 2017 02:07 PM (WuRdh)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 21, 2017 02:07 PM (JyMId)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (8XRCm)
Ace stole my lunch money!
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (KW1qk)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (JyMId)
ooops....sock off.
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 02:06 PM (Enq6K)
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And THAT, boys and girls, is how rumors get started.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (8XRCm)
Oh shit....
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (Enq6K)
hey, Hey, HEY!
I only played female FIGHTER-Clerics thank you very much
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (BrQrN)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 21, 2017 02:09 PM (RWSlt)
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I presume that this is so, from the tough guy's perspective, it's not gay for him when his fighter tries to romance her?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 21, 2017 02:10 PM (JyMId)
Posted by: Waffle Pop at February 21, 2017 02:10 PM (UOJLJ)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 02:10 PM (43OZ6)
There are benefits to say: Ramstein beyond the protection it gives to Germany.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: Barack "Drillbit" Obama at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (43OZ6)
If they make no effort to defend themselves, the political will to help them in the US is going to be essentially zero.
The fact that their pussified socialist paradises only exist because of American might is also pretty galling.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 21, 2017 02:10 PM (JyMId)
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Well.... theres a 35% chance he'll regret it.... and a 50% change the horny she elf will regret it.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (lPDqu)
There's been a lot of stupid talk on this point from liberals their allies the neocon nevertrumpers, who claim that a demand that treaty partners honor their side of a bargain somehow undermines the treaty.
Pay up or you are on your own.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (fo8C+)
The left looks at the countries that don't pay their share for their own defense, ignore that, but notice all the cool stuff they can afford and then want to know why we can't have that.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (ZFUt7)
Reuters - Drudge - Pence and Bannon have differing points of view over this Euro zone, and the Eurozonies are disturbed by the conflicting statements, according to Reuters and their inside sources who can speak candidly only on condition that their name not be used.
Trump, you see, and Bannon are Nationalists who read that right wing news site, Breitbart news, and think that the Eurozone is a mess.
Just more evidence of the Chaos in the out of control Trump administration who wants to dissolve NATO and see the Eurozone collapse.
/ he said sarcastically.
Posted by: Hap N. Stance at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (zoU3Z)
Posted by: Blanco at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (tGBt6)
Just heard this weird rumor that Tami is JackStraw?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (4WhSY)
Oh, Tami is lots of things, if you get my drift.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM (4WhSY)
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Nope.
Just his one night stand.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (8XRCm)
How will the Eurotrash be able to fund their socialist paradises if the American taxpayer isn't footing the bill for Eurotrash military protection? Oh the humanity!
Posted by: kathysaysso
How can they afford the Muzz invasion?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (IqV8l)
Why defend them when they are so busy surrendering?
breitbart.com
kassam-sweden-last-week-saw-not-normal/
http://tinyurl.com/goq3ldg
Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2017 02:13 PM (YMJtx)
Posted by: Bull Wynn at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: IP at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (hUtue)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (lPDqu)
They face Islamists at home and Russia on their flank. not to mention Erdogan's burgeoning Brotherhood dictatorship inside the tent.
A mess.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (EYwhF)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM
I read that as "the horny shelf will regret it". It still made perfect sense.
Posted by: Flyguy at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (3sOO0)
IDK
That seems odd....
Posted by: IP at February 21, 2017 02:14 PM (hUtue)
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Well. Jack needs a place to set his beer...
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 02:15 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (xeeHA)
Sort of like the beautiful people in their gated communities who don't see the problems associated with dumping a bunch of unrefined 9th-century savages in, say, Dearbornistan.
Until and unless the savages burn-down their gates it's Somebody Else's Problem.
Posted by: DocJ at February 21, 2017 02:15 PM (NYS7S)
I like Three O' Clock High better than My Bodyguard.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Does it have B-17s?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 02:16 PM (IqV8l)
I heard that 10% of the fighters get 90% of the she-elves.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 21, 2017 02:16 PM (RWSlt)
Posted by: joncelli, Feeling Frisky in a Fantasy Fashion at February 21, 2017 02:16 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 21, 2017 02:16 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 21, 2017 02:17 PM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth "
Don't F**k this up Mitchell!!
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 21, 2017 02:17 PM (OD2ni)
I just know there's someone in a high profile position that understands these things very well.
Wait, don't tell me, I know I'll figure it out at some point.
Posted by: Blake at February 21, 2017 02:17 PM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 21, 2017 02:18 PM (BB1en)
Wait... how did I get here? This doesn't appear to be an official front page post.
The clown car is the top post, is it not? Or are there two versions of the front page?
Posted by: Hap N. Stance at February 21, 2017 02:19 PM (zoU3Z)
Posted by: garrett at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (p+Qx5)
18 My only thoughts are: Even if Europe finally ups their goddamn spending: are we really going to scale down or presence there?
There are benefits to say: Ramstein beyond the protection it gives to Germany.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (dzmBR)
The thing is, we've HUGELY reduced our footprint in Europe in the last 20 years. To the point that pretty much all that's left is air power, which isn't insignificant, but that's not the same deterrent as heavy armored forces.
For the most part, the Euroweenies have been glad to see us leave, but they fully expect us to come running if the shit hits the fan, even though they haven't bothered paying for their own defense.
The Frogs are the worst. They stayed out of the military side of NATO through most of the Cold War and afterwards, secure in the knowledge that when the US defended the rest of Europe, due to their geographic location, France would see the benefits, without having to lift a finger to help.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (cuZZW)
Yup.
How dare we demand that European countries give the slightest fucks at all about protecting themselves? Don't you see that we are so superior that we can do that without any true cost to us.
What's the requested amount 2% of GDP? Yeah, I don't think that's too much to ask.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: garrett at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (p+Qx5)
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (HL3BI)
I don't remember the exact numbers, but the plan was somethign like this: If the Germans invaded, the Brits would commit their one (1) division, the French would commit their five divisions, and the Russians would commit their forty five divisions.
In other words, the plan was "let's you and him fight". Perfidious Albion would no doubt proceed to take advantage of a weakened USSR like they'd done in other theaters. Stalin, not being an idiot, threw in with the Germans instead.
I don't see any reason for the US to defend Germany and France if they're not willing to put in the slightest bit of effort. The German military, in particular, is a holding area for unemployable young men so the government can keep down the unemployment statistics. They have a handful of elite units, but the Russians would slice through the rest like a hot knife through butter.
Posted by: Ace's liver at February 21, 2017 02:21 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: ProgressoSPOX at February 21, 2017 02:21 PM (wx6iv)
Posted by: pookysgirl at February 21, 2017 02:22 PM (ar2KI)
"I think you signal your upper income level by showing off how little fucks you give about return on investment and repayment of loans and stuff."
People I have known who actually have money to burn got that way by not burning money, that is to say by thinking about ROI and expecting loans to be repaid. The kind of signaling you're talking about is only practiced by people who are not wealthy, or won't be for long.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 21, 2017 02:22 PM (Oeb2k)
So far there have been about 20 questions as to why Pres Trump won't denounce antisemitism.
Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 21, 2017 02:23 PM (VqeFO)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 21, 2017 03:00 PM (3WL0y)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 02:08 PM (43OZ6)
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I'm sure an influx of largely non-working, under-educated, and poor people from a country with vastly different cultures and mores will fix that problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:02 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at February 21, 2017 03:02 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: wth at February 21, 2017 03:02 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Hap N. Stance at February 21, 2017 03:03 PM (zoU3Z)
How dare we demand that European countries give the slightest fucks at all about protecting themselves? Don't you see that we are so superior that we can do that without any true cost to us.
What's the requested amount 2% of GDP? Yeah, I don't think that's too much to ask.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)
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It's always easy to be generous with other people's money, you know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:03 PM (vur0q)
That was one of the things that did not get a lot of mention was how rapidly those European powers went through their stockpiles of parts and munitions.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:04 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (HL3BI)
............
Better than eating dirt.
Posted by: Kim Jong-nam at February 21, 2017 03:04 PM (HgMAr)
"I think you signal your upper income level by showing off how little fucks you give about return on investment and repayment of loans and stuff."
People I have known who actually have money to burn got that way by not burning money, that is to say by thinking about ROI and expecting loans to be repaid. The kind of signaling you're talking about is only practiced by people who are not wealthy, or won't be for long.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 21, 2017 02:22 PM (Oeb2k)
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It depends on whose money.
Personal cash? Hell yeah, you'd better get a return on that.
Government cash? Nah...we can be generous with that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:04 PM (vur0q)
Otherwise they would have to admit that were and continue to be wrong.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at February 21, 2017 03:05 PM (qU2ch)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 21, 2017 02:11 PM (KP5rU)
Yes.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at February 21, 2017 03:05 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Gunny Sgt. Zodman at February 21, 2017 03:05 PM (Bdeb0)
Perhaps I should have added "below where it's at now."
Which is low. (though I'm from "air superiority is the best superiority" camp, so scaling back to mostly that is still a lot of power.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at February 21, 2017 03:06 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: Reno 911 at February 21, 2017 03:06 PM (39g3+)
Ace, you're not going to start Darwin Award contending here, are you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2017 03:06 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:06 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by: Mathers at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (mHL0c)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (8ZskC)
position on our getting our side of the bargain, because, apparently,
it's "higher class" to just give away the store for free with no
considerations received in return. I think you signal your upper income
level by showing off how little fucks you give about return on
investment and repayment of loans and stuff.
Egads, it's a....a.... tradesman. Not our sort, dear.
The kind of signaling you're talking about is only practiced by people who are not wealthy, or won't be for long.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Untrue. Many in the British upper classes made a fetish out of being lazy and unemployed. Work was for those who had to.
Posted by: pep at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (LAe3v)
Starting with Glasnost, we reevaluated the math. First, Mt. Pinatubo gave us the initiative to unass the Philippines, then we did it on our own with Greece.
Since Russian tanks aren't going to come down the Fulda Gap anymore, and NATO's big worry is much farther east, we would like people to meet their obligations.
And somehow that is upending 70 years of peace or some dumb stuff.
Posted by: blaster at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (tewYv)
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (HL3BI)
............
Better than eating dirt.
Posted by: Kim Jong-nam at February 21, 2017 03:04 PM (HgMAr)
Even the Chi-Coms have had it it with the little inbred.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..3 days until spring training at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (o/Ar3)
Let's get South Korea to do the same thing now. The NK army is eating tree bark for fucks sakes, they don't need us
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (HL3BI)
South Korea could do the Sam Kinison famine victim-candybar act with the NORK army. "C'mon, here's the candybar, *reach* for it...!"
Posted by: General Zod at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (mbhDw)
Trump had the audacity to say Europe needs to step up financially, and these NeoCons were basically saying you'd better start teaching your kids Russian.
Posted by: Maritime at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (J591N)
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (Enq6K)
right. tbh, i find that people with money talk a lot about money, which may be because money interests them, and they have a lot of money because people pursue that which interests them.
I guess i'm really talking about a certain faux-aristocratic mindset of acting like one would expect an aristocrat to act (not necessarily how an aristorcrat acts).
Posted by: ace at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (8rNrN)
I'm feeling bad for him right now.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Reno 911 at February 21, 2017 03:06 PM (39g3+)
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I'd rather have the largest and most advanced military by far than just a few notches above the next guy. Makes it easier to dissuade other countries from attacking us.
I'm sure there are inefficiencies and waste that can be found and culled, but the military is not the driver of our debt. That's social security to a small degree and Medicare/Medicaid.
Complaining about the cost of the military seems like small potatoes compared to the rest of the non-discretionary budget.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (vur0q)
They had his back, he got the women to lay on theirs for the other Horsemen.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (1JnAL)
I have it on good authority that their pamphlets on diversity sensitivity have been fully replaced.
Posted by: pep at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (o/Ar3)
Gay, Greek and half Jew. Yup. Himmler's all hot and horny to slap a Hugo Boss outfit on him and send him to Belsen.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (mbhDw)
Priestess of Sif, so you can "cheat" and use a longsword instead of a mace.
(winks knowingly)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (KlI/a)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (ul9CR)
If only Mr. Moo Moo were still here to give us all the inside skinny on this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (MrWgD)
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so what are the things Europe should be helping us with? Besides the one night stands with Norweigians?
Posted by: Cptn. Louis Renault at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (oGRue)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (KlI/a)
======================
"Silly geese."
-The Confederacy, in Richmond
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (vur0q)
I bet Ace stopped typing there for a second and just laughed out loud......
Posted by: Dirty Randy at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (jjaLl)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (ul9CR)
Bald-headed statist stooge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 21, 2017 02:12 PM
Maybe she just identifies as JackStraw.
NTTAWWT.
Be happy she doesn't know JackSchumer.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (43OZ6)
If they make no effort to defend themselves, the political will to help them in the US is going to be essentially zero.
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Not all of them. The UK still meets the 2% target. Poland and Estonia, who are worried about Russia, do as well. And oddly enough, the NATO member with the second largest military expenditures as percentage of GDP is Greece. They're probably worried about fellow NATO member Turkey.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (nsZ+m)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (AHKXf)
NATO's big worry is much farther east, we would like people to meet
their obligations.
I do wonder if a massed tank attack is even an option anymore against a First World army. It seems to me they're pretty much where the mass infantry charge was in WWI. The defense technology would devastate an attack, or so it seems to me (in my ignorance).
Posted by: pep at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (LAe3v)
Why do you think I play a Ranger/Cleric. Get to use bow, battle-axe, sword, blast the undead, and heal. Full package adventurer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (ul9CR)
He reminds me of Tatagglia in The Godfather
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (KlI/a)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (KlI/a)
"This is a man's world!"
- - James "kimchee" Brown
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (mbhDw)
Not all of them. The UK still meets the 2% target. Poland and Estonia, who are worried about Russia, do as well. And oddly enough, the NATO member with the second largest military expenditures as percentage of GDP is Greece. They're probably worried about fellow NATO member Turkey.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (nsZ+m)
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Yeah, there are 5 countries that met it in 2016.
My biggest problem is the 2% goal. Seems low, but what do I know?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (vur0q)
It's not even a disagreement. It's just jumping on the other side of whatever Trump is doing.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (qU2ch)
skinny on this.
Posted by: Cicero"
I'm too busy counting my millions. Go pray to your sky god, you fetus worshipper.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (OD2ni)
____________________________
My guess is this one has taken the wind from his sails for a bit. Can't say that I could blame him. This one has to hurt.
Posted by: IP at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (hUtue)
about the America First idea -- that it's all a bit grubby and
lower-middle-class to be so concerned about petty things like money.
Someone who is very comfortably rich doesn't have to worry about money,
and can afford to think only in Ideals without any consideration of
pricetag, and I guess we're all supposed to adopt that attitude of the
comfortably rich, even if we're not personally rich, and even if the
country is not particularly fat with disposable cash at the moment.
Heh. Kinda like the scene in "The Aviator" where Hughes has dinner with Katherine Hepburn's family and tells them that they aren't concerned with money because they always had it. These people have never worried about safety, or assist our forces, because they've never needed to (and chances are their kin aren't on the front lines).
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (NOIQH)
He reminds me of Tatagglia in The Godfather
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (KlI/a)
He's a pimp. He could have never outfought Santino.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (43OZ6)
It has.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (8ZskC)
This world needs more gamer girls. Who play Fantasy Hero.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (o/Ar3)
It wasn't that much of a stretch for McMuffin to use Alinsky tactics.
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it."
I do wonder how many outlets had "ready to go" articles when that press release came out, because a lot were published within hours - following the same script.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (wB8Tg)
Six thousand self-driving 4x4s loaded with 500lb HE.
Posted by: JEM at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (TppKb)
Heh. Kinda like the scene in "The Aviator" where Hughes has dinner with Katherine Hepburn's family and tells them that they aren't concerned with money because they always had it. These people have never worried about safety, or assist our forces, because they've never needed to (and chances are their kin aren't on the front lines).
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (NOIQH)
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It's a great little moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2017 03:09 PM (KlI/a)
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"Silly geese."
-The Confederacy, in Richmond
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (vur0q)
You got it.
Wait, what?
Posted by: The Union, Washington DC at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (mHL0c)
Posted by: eleven at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (fYChk)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (MrWgD)
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 21, 2017 02:20 PM (HL3BI
I went to a party once where people were eating tree bark of the bodies of naked North Koreans.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (AHKXf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)
Depends. It's not the kind of game where I have to take my clothes off, is it?
Posted by: blaster at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (tewYv)
"Milo needs to quit being a victim and get back to throwing punches."
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My guess is this one has taken the wind from his sails for a bit. Can't say that I could blame him. This one has to hurt.
Posted by: IP at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (hUtue)
To steal a line from the movie Hancock -The way you deal with bullies - you take your right foot, bring it right up and catch him in his little piss pump. You aim straight, make sure he can't use that thing for nothin' but a flap to keep the dust out of his butt crack.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (jxbfJ)
Six thousand self-driving 4x4s loaded with 500lb HE.
Posted by: JEM at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (TppKb)
Box cutters, airliners, TSA agents.
Poor man's nukes..
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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It's not small potatoes, it's over 50 percent of discretionary federal spending.
And it seems like the larger our military is, the more it obligates us to foot the bill globally.
Posted by: Maritime at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (J591N)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (u82oZ)
Nazi because Milo = Yuuuge Trump supporter, right?
And that's probably a big reason he had to be taken out.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (UfIVU)
As time goes on, not so much any more.
Posted by: davidt at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (XoldI)
Whispers, "Does anyone get a B*azer vibe off of Tami?"
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:12 PM (43OZ6)
Da fuq?
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (Enq6K)
fucking pathetic worm thinking he's playing the Great Game when he's a pawn
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (MrWgD)
Posted by: Cptn. Louis Renault at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (oGRue)
Wait, what? Hang on, when did this start?
I might be back on board with this whole NATO thing.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Aragorn at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (oGRue)
I've noticed "conservatism" has been hijacked by the toads like Rick Wilson and the Twitterati. It's high time we take it back.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (VV72c)
It's not small potatoes, it's over 50 percent of discretionary federal spending.
And it seems like the larger our military is, the more it obligates us to foot the bill globally.
Posted by: Maritime at February 21, 2017 03:14 PM (J591N)
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"Discretionary"
The big problem is the non-discretionary portion, the parts that are growing out of control and Congress has largely washed its hands of.
If the federal government handled no transfer payments and the military was half of the overall budget, I'd actually be neither surprised, shocked, nor angered by that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: bjrubbs at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (D9FhY)
Posted by: Tim Marchman at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (Yx9SN)
NATO Euro countries are on defense welfare, and act like humans do when they are on welfare.
Part of their socialist problem is they don't pay for their own defense. Things would be a lot different in their attitude if they did.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:10 PM (MrWgD)
I think Takei was the potential molestee not the molestor in that scenario.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (lPDqu)
As time goes on, not so much any more.
Posted by: davidt at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (XoldI)
One side of the family fled the pogroms. The other side survived Hitler. There was no love lost when they got to Ellis Island, I can guarantee you that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (mbhDw)
Da fuq?
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (Enq6K)
Just teasing you, girl. And starting more rumors about you.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (43OZ6)
Think Meilikki would be annoyed at my character though. So pass.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (UfIVU)
Breitbart has some pretty high turnover this year. That's usually a sign of poor leadership.
I never went there specifically for Milo. I suspect management knew, based on clicks to his stuff, his relative value.
Still, can't let the Egg McMuffins get Milo's scalp without there being some payback.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (ZFUt7)
Why do you think I play a Ranger/Cleric. Get to use bow, battle-axe, sword, blast the undead, and heal. Full package adventurer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:11 PM (UfIVU)
*waves* back
Switch to Hero System, the Salad Bar of RPGs.
Just don't bother with the forum, it's run by SJWs.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (wB8Tg)
Without question.
I'm feeling bad for him right now.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (ul9CR)
Milo's not going anywhere. It will just not be on Breitbart.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (Pd7Sl)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (hLRSq)
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Ugh...the idea that nationalism was what drove Europe into two World Wars...ugh.
Just...ugh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (LLNhE)
Now everybody is a pedophile.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (AHKXf)
I can neither confirm nor deny whether nudity will be required.
Personally I wouldn't care if the cam was on at all, I'd just want it for voice. We'd have to use a tool to act for dice rolling etc, separate from Skype but I've done it before.
My preference would be Fantasy Hero, and I could test out a product meant to teach people the rules.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (39g3+)
Getting member nations to think seriously about finances is a good start.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (Zy4yj)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (VV72c)
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:08 PM (o/Ar3)
...........
So many Nazis, so little time.
Posted by: wth at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (HgMAr)
Quite recently, the NATO members agreed and committed to each other to spend 2.0% of GDP on defense. That was the deal. Only the US, Britain, Poland and Greece and one or two others are doing what they said. Germany is at 1.2%.
So what Pence and the NATO guy said was that the other members need to honor their commitments already agreed with each other. Questions from the press pack about what the "or else" will be. Pence was diplomatic: to be determined later.
Ball is in Merkel's court.
All part of Trump's Art of the Deal! Although MSM is portraying it as Pence and Mattis having to clean up another Trump mess.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (SIY7D)
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Ummmmmm ixnay on the edophilepay thingy......
Posted by: Hoooray for Hollywood. at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (8XRCm)
Its gotten a lot better, the old mod team is gone and its way more friendly than it used to be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (39g3+)
Hopefully NRA uses them for what little support they'll give, and never trusts them a whit.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (o/Ar3)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (43OZ6)
Ah ok....proceed then.
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (Enq6K)
side survived Hitler. There was no love lost when they got to Ellis
Island, I can guarantee you that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:16 PM (mbhDw)
and the third side escaped horrors of Imperial Japan ?
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (c6/9Q)
Which rule set.
*oh crud, have to take the tape off the web-cam*
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:15 PM (UfIVU)
Go on...
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..3 days until spring training at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (0O7c5)
As I said yesterday, I admire Milo's courage in his fight against PC speech silencing. I support him in that.
However, he did himself no favors yesterday when, in his explanation of why he was flippantly describing gay sex and it's predilection for young people, that for a 17 year old to be taken "under the wing" of an older gay man for sex and an introduction to the gay lifestyle was a good thing for the 17 year old because it made the 17 year old feel better.
1. It supported the notion that gay men are predators, looking for the young to sex and cement into the lifestyle
2. He thought this was a good thing. That a 17 year old should be cemented into the lifestyle and be used for sex by an older adult.
Neither of the above is considered acceptable and desirable in the heterosexual world, so why he thinks that 97% of the population who is hetero would smile and accept this in the homosexual world makes one question his judgment and world view.
This is one of those factoids that the majority of people despise about the gay lifestyle. And Milo thinks it's a good thing, so he shouldn't be surprised when the people, employers, etc. feel they can speak their minds and opinions and let him go.
After all, he rails against the PC world. A PC world would have soothed over his stance and kept him employed, because, you know, gay.
Breitbart is doing what they think is best for Breitbart, as did CPAC,( yeah yeah, I know).
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (cWhln)
Interesting. Sounds like 'The Reagan Batallion' is more Dem astroturf.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7lke6y
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 21, 2017 03:20 PM (oVJmc)
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Maybe, maybe not. Tanks are virtually immune to a lot of older manpacked HEAT weapons. And they're now mounting anti-missile defenses as well to deal with the newer stuff.
One reason why the Russians lost so many tanks in Chechnya is because they got lazy and left the reactive armor at home that would have helped to protect against the RPG ambushes the Chechens performed.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2017 03:20 PM (nsZ+m)
Hopefully NRA uses them for what little support they'll give, and never trusts them a whit.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (o/Ar3)
Proud of him. Watching the presser, I admire him even more.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 21, 2017 03:20 PM (Pd7Sl)
Since that IS one of the few jobs of the fedgov per the Constitution.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 21, 2017 03:20 PM (fo8C+)
Getting member nations to think seriously about finances is a good start.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (Zy4yj)
Momma Sefton always thought we should have a) never rebuilt Europe and b) let the Soviets take it since '45.
With option B, their mindset might have been somewhat less anti-American and anti-western had they been under a Commie boot for 50 years.
Maybe in some alternate universe.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (dnWSK)
This was a warning shit to the Right and Americans. The Left and
Neo-Commies will call you a pedophile if you cross them. White
Supremacist and White Nationalist and Nazi have not worked.
Now everybody is a pedophile.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (AHKXf)
Racist, homophobe, deplorable, despicable, blah blah, blah.Take a list of all the names they call you (me) and put in your one hand, and a pile of dog crap in the other hand - guess what. Same stuff.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (jxbfJ)
Since that IS one of the few jobs of the fedgov per the Constitution.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 21, 2017 03:20 PM (fo8C+)
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Enumerated powers? What are those?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)
What kind of schedule?
PS I know someone who designed a complex Hero System setup for MapTools, a free online gaming tool. Does maps, manages combat, built-in character sheets drawn by combat/skill rolls, etc.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (wB8Tg)
and the third side escaped horrors of Imperial Japan ?
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (c6/9Q)
Huh?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)
Actually, fuck anyone who voted for that guy; especially those who still support him.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (VV72c)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)
Pro-Evan McMuffin Dem astroturf.
Shocka!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (8J/Te)
With option B, their mindset might have been somewhat less anti-American and anti-western had they been under a Commie boot for 50 years.
Maybe they would have gone broke sooner.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (IqV8l)
The Poles / Lithuanians and Ukrainians understand that the Euro's are all talk - so they formed the non-NATO fast response combat ready brigade POLELITHUKRBRIG - in less than one year.
Posted by: 13times at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)
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"So brave."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (vur0q)
Breitbart is doing what they think is best for Breitbart, as did CPAC,( yeah yeah, I know).
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (cWhln
Funny how the Neo-Communists at CPAC never get their hands dirty fighting all kinds of Marxism including SJWs.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (AHKXf)
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (c6/9Q)
What type and what sort of time commitment would be needed?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (sEDyY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)
an alternate scenario if Milo was a liberal and every single other fact
in this matter was exactly the same.
See: Lena Dunham?
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (ul9CR)
Milo just said that Breitbart is the third most popular news outlet. Claimed that "unless you're from CNN or the New York Times, Breitbart has more readers than you".
Is that possible? Breitbart has struck me as just a sensationalist rag for the last few years.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (mgbwf)
Milo is . . . Out? No, not that "out," Out-Out. From Breitbart.
Ankling his post as tech editor.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (mbhDw)
I don'y buy that. May be true, but I don't see it.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (VV72c)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)
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Are they going to be high quality pop tarts? Or will they be just the stuff straight from the box?
Some kind of "gourmet" pop tart could be feasible in a high foot traffic type environment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (eClek)
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (eClek)
Of course I realized it a second after I hit post.
Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (mbhDw)
Egg McMuffin and McCain should be sent to Mars. Irritating bastards.
Posted by: IC
McCain would crash the space ship.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: davidt at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (XoldI)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)
They will be shut down as soon as a kid bites one into the shape of a gun.
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (cWhln)
That is the concern, scheduling etc. I'm thinking a couple hours once every other week. My preference is fantasy but... literally any kind of game is possible. Superheroes, Wild west, Sci Fi, Vietnam War, Gritty cop drama, pirates, whatever.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+)
in an alternate scenario if Milo was a liberal and every single other
fact in this matter was exactly the same.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)
Milo pretty much is a liberal.
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (43OZ6)
Is that possible? Breitbart has struck me as just a sensationalist rag for the last few years.
..
i read that claim somewhere in the past few days somewhere else. Not sure where i saw it.
Posted by: ace at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN)
Sounds like the Spanish Civil War Lincoln Brigade.
Yeah. They rape nuns, eat chocolate bars, and let others do the real fighting.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (vur0q)
Bacon. Bacon Pop Tarts.
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (mHL0c)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (NOIQH)
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Also remember that Ukraine is not part of NATO.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (nsZ+m)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)
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That's just a silly idea.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (xeeHA)
When he forays off into areas where he has no expertise, like with the casual sex post, the blog really suffers.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (EdoYl)
Sounds like the Spanish Civil War Lincoln Brigade.
Yeah. They rape nuns, eat chocolate bars, and let others do the real fighting.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (nlbfN)
"Eh Ingliss!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (OVUYQ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)
On Jupiter. And be captured by the Jupitans. (yes, made up word and yes, I should be more respectful of his sacrifices).
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (UfIVU)
The totally not gay 30+year old unmarried Mormon guy who lives with his mom and is completely not remembered by his former government coworkers and is also not gay?
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (qU2ch)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 21, 2017 03:24 PM (mgbwf)
Well, their comments became unmanageable and toxic just from sheer volume.
Fox is pretty sensationalist, and they're popular.
Could happen.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (wB8Tg)
Unlike CNN or the NYT.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: IC
McCain would crash the space ship.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)
.............
and get captured by the little green men.
Posted by: wth at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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Combine three of them.
Alien-hunting pirates in Vietnam.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (xeeHA)
manpacked HEAT weapons. And they're now mounting anti-missile defenses
as well to deal with the newer stuff.
Interesting, but it also seems to me that it's a lot easier to build vast numbers of new missiles and disperse them, then it is to defend a target like a tank, which can carry only so many anti-missile missiles. Numbers will eventually tell and overwhelm the defenses. Couple that with autonomy and visual recognition software, so that you don't need to rely on a man keeping his courage in the face of almost certain death as the tanks roll towards him, and I don't see a robust future for massed tanks.
Again, just my thoughts, and again, I have no specific knowledge in this area.
Posted by: pep at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (LAe3v)
Loved it. He kept it chastened and low-key all the way to the end, then he let them have it.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (ul9CR)
There's an old joke, Why do you always take two Mormons with you when you go fishing?
Because if you only take one, he'll drink all your beer
Posted by: Maritime at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (J591N)
Is that possible? Breitbart has struck me as just a sensationalist rag for the last few years.
..
i read that claim somewhere in the past few days somewhere else. Not sure where i saw it.
Posted by: ace at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN)
I don't know how to post links here, but that's from a Breitbart article from Feb 19. Breitbart moved up to the 29th most trafficked website in the US.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (WuRdh)
OTOH the Soviet had to know that France would nuke Germany to stop them while we might hesitate.
Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (8J/Te)
Bunch of pajama boys - not one man in that room from what i can see. Bunch of gender confused cucks.
Boy do I hate the media.
Posted by: realityman at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (xOBRH)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad
Hold onto your hat. They recently moved ahead of the #1 pron site (PornHub) on the internet. Also ahead of espn.
Trump has been berry, berry good for them.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (V9SUM)
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (o/Ar3)
Posted by: grognard at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (/29Nl)
And no nationalism is Islamizing them.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (hLRSq)
Any minute now. Promise.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (AHKXf)
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (a0IVu)
Jupitards, lead by their Queen Cher.
Posted by: wth at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (HgMAr)
I think that is good and accurate way to describe him. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (fDdVG)
They mean to perform a bloodless coup. Politics by other means just short of actual shooting war.
Posted by: geoffb5 at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (d3wbb)
Posted by: kathysaysso
Milo is a type of individual that reminds me of a Hitchens. Adopted by some on the Right, for a purpose, but not really a part of the Right.
I remember Hitchens statement on Reagan's death, describing him as a " vile, evil lizard", or some such.
Not really so akin.
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (mHL0c)
Yeah more like real pastries, using Pop Tart themes. They mention stuff like pizza in the article as well but I don't see a demand out there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (39g3+)
Getting member nations to think seriously about finances is a good start.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 21, 2017 03:18 PM (Zy4yj)
Momma Sefton always thought we should have a) never rebuilt Europe and b) let the Soviets take it since '45.
With option B, their mindset might have been somewhat less anti-American and anti-western had they been under a Commie boot for 50 years.
Maybe in some alternate universe.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)
As long as the Soviets would have let the French sit in cafes and drink wine and bitch about Americans, the French would have been happy as clams.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (1JnAL)
Which might explain a lot, actually.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (ul9CR)
And no nationalism is Islamizing them.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase the 18th Edition of 'Ace Commands: The Style Guide for the Horde' at the Outra at February 21, 2017 03:29 PM (hLRSq)
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"We can't be proud of who we are, our common heritage, history or borders! That would be racist! We are part of no tribe! And those who aren't part of the 'No Tribe Tribe' are just the worst!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (vur0q)
That was brilliant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Lily(formerly of Hot Air) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (Uwkgi)
IOW, grooming.
I feel bad for Milo. I'm on a PC that doesn't have sound, but when I checked in on the livestream it looked like his eyes were red from crying.
Milo is a champion for free speech. I see him as a First Amendment crusader. If it's true that he condones man-boy love, he has got to get his mind right before re-emerging as a libertarian warrior. I don't know how he goes about achieving this.
Posted by: kallisto at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Pluto, A Planet and a Damn Good One at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (V9SUM)
This was my fear for Trump but he seems to have become more retrospect and careful.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (lPDqu)
Posted by: Zombie Cosell in the fabulous blazer at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (2tdQE)
Posted by: runner at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:07 PM (8ZskC)
And his son-in-law, daughter and their kids
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (493sH)
And it really chaps my ass that the Third-Rate Breakfast Sandwich is abusing the great man's name.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (ul9CR)
The so-called EU-NATO fast response combat ready "spearhead" brigade (German/Dutch/Norge) is supposedly just now coming online - after three years preperation.
Lol three years to put a brigade together
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (UfIVU)
There's this expectation by the world that we will be the Police of the world; well, police the world over get paid, don't they?
A special ops noncom guy in our military makes, say, around $30-40k. If he gets out and signs up as a security contractor, he can make upwards of $150k. From a purely commercial viewpoint, the military guy is severely undervalued.
Mercenaries have been a fact of life since Mog offered Thog a haunch of mastodon for breaking Og's kneecaps.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (xpfRn)
Breitbart now in Top 40. So it could be in top news sites. I think above them is PayPal.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (ZFUt7)
Yeah more like real pastries, using Pop Tart themes. They mention stuff like pizza in the article as well but I don't see a demand out there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (39g3+)
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It wouldn't be anything that many people would go out of their way for, but on a busy street where thousands of people walk every day? I could imagine they might get enough business to stay afloat as long as the offerings were good. Can't be any worse than the food at Starbuck's, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:32 PM (vur0q)
I don't have a super good opinion of CPAC or Milo, so its a wash to me. Although I of course agree with many things both have said, I wouldn't really want to hang out with them. Nor them, me.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 21, 2017 03:32 PM (ODxAs)
Cool.
Posted by: Lily(formerly of Hot Air) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (Uwkgi)
Which inevitably leads to:
https://youtu.be/xENR-qXSm90
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at February 21, 2017 03:32 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (a0IVu)
Anti-armor weaponry is good these days, true, but most of these peer-on-peer wars and battles aren't the wave of the future, either. In general, a great power will have to spend its efforts fighting sub-par forces - nature of the world.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Hand me the pliers at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (49Y1z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (PY9jH)
Combine three of them.
Alien-hunting pirates in Vietnam.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (xeeHA)
In the bad old days when Hymietown was a crime-ridden cesspool, there was a porn theatre on Times Square that showed a triple feature:
Wet Sluts, Hot Nurses, Horny Cheerleaders.
Three months later, it was:
Hot Sluts, Horny Nurses, Wet Cheerleaders.
And then:
Horny Sluts, Wet Nurses, Hot Cheerleaders.
This went on for about 20 years.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (mbhDw)
bayonets right now to fight the totalitarian SWJs and the Global
Governance Marxist Bridages.
Any minute now. Promise.
But first they are going to hold another super-secret vote over who to purge from their He-man Women-haters club for not being sufficiently pro-comprehensive compromise on healthcare, immigration, ferreting out domestic militias (the biggest threat to the US), gun-control...
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (NOIQH)
I mean, we had an ex-CIA political unknown backed by mysterious backers and a few establishment richie riches whose goal was *explicitly* not to win the election but to throw it?
How was that NOT a gigantic story in itself? "CIA CYPHER CLAIMS TO WANT TO THROW THE ELECTION"
I mean, if you wrote that in a comic book, people would deride it as silly and unrealistic.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:33 PM (wB8Tg)
Egg McMuffin and McCain should be sent to Mars. Irritating bastards.
Posted by: IC
McCain would crash the space ship.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)
Think Meggie Mac with her big tits and access to lotsa beer needs some consoling?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (1JnAL)
Works with Baptists too, usually.
I guess the part that gets me is imagining how things would play out in an alternate scenario if Milo was a liberal and every single other fact in this matter was exactly the same.
Ask George Takei who said almost exactly the same thing in a Stern interview.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: bolo mk xx 'tremendous' at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Aunti Anne at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (V9SUM)
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (xpfRn)
Mog has always been at war with Og.
Posted by: Winston at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (XoldI)
Actually....none of those genre are something I'm interested in, but the combination sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (sEDyY)
Breitbart now in Top 40. So it could be in top news sites. I think above them is PayPal.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (ZFUt7)
I thought PayPal was the IRS. Oh wait, that's "Pay, pal."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mathers at February 21, 2017 03:34 PM (3myMJ)
Unlike CNN or the NYT.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 21, 2017 03:27 PM (oVJmc)
The titles to articles have sometimes trended recently to rivaling TMZ or World News Daily. If you then read the article, most of them are pretty solid.
Today's lineup is pretty much in line with the article.
Noticed the article about the bowling alley riot that happened in Allen Park, a residential suburb of Detroit's "Downriver" communities.
Saw that on local news last night. A group of young black men got into a fight over some women who wasn't at the event. They were in a party room at the bowling alley(large modern alley that has hosted national championships) and the fight spilled out into the alley area. Then their girlfriends joined in and it was one big war.
Someone of course, took cell phone video and sent it to the local news station....
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (cWhln)
Posted by: realityman at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (xOBRH)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
A good portion of china thinks otherwise.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (4YGWz)
Posted by: Hand me the pliers at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (49Y1z)
Has anyone actually found any evidence he really worked at the CIA?
an't be any worse than the food at Starbuck's, right?
Well and if someone asked me if I thought extra burnt coffee sold for 5 bucks a cup could possibly work as a business model I'd have laughed at them, too. So who knows?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (39g3+)
Wait....he and Glenn Beck are having an affair?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (PY9jH)
"Again, for clarity: you have said things that the press could assassinate your character with. I guarantee it. Every single person reading this right now has said something which the press could twist into a knife and plunge into your gut. All of you."
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by : IC
If so, how do you think that will go?
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (mHL0c)
Good casting and character development but it lagged a little in the upper torso.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (V9SUM)
Well, there have been whispers about McMuffin's, er, proclivities.
Wait....he and Glenn Beck are having an affair?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (PY9jH)
Heh...we'll start a rumor.
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (a0IVu)
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This cannot stand. To Arms, Men!
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (qU2ch)
Posted by: Sky Masterson at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (VwoJ6)
Trouble is, he was starting to mainstream. He killed it on Maher. Can't have that
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (SIY7D)
A good portion of china thinks otherwise.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2017 03:35 PM (4YGWz)
If Chi-Com weaponry is as good as their drywall, pet food and Big Bertha knockoffs, we should be in good shape.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (mbhDw)
Word.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by : IC
If so, how do you think that will go?
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (mHL0c)
Poorly. Kaine starts with Fairfax and Arlington in his pocket and that's a lot of the ballgame.
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (IqV8l)
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This cannot stand. To Arms, Men!
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER!
To Hands, also.
Posted by: Roy at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (VndSC)
275 O/T, but I saw on Facebook that Laura Ingram is running for Tim Kaine's seat..is this true?
Posted by : IC
If so, how do you think that will go?
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (mHL0c)
Not sure really. That said, their debates would be fascinating, as in she would eviscerate him.
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (a0IVu)
There actually is a desire for a powerful military among the European elites - but as an arm of the EU, not NATO. This inclination arises mostly out of anti-Americanism, not some sort of European patriotism.
On the other hand if there is any real fighting to do, they would prefer the Amis do it. So they like to have NATO around.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (hA1V+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 21, 2017 03:30 PM (mgbwf)
It was.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (Pd7Sl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (PY9jH)
He said he's going to keep doing the college tours. Someone else will publish his book.
He'll keep on as he was, just without the Breitbart affiliation.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (mgbwf)
https://youtu.be/7AInIXKyIFI
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (UfIVU)
Posted by: Hillary at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (XoldI)
Poorly. Kaine starts with Fairfax and Arlington in his pocket and that's a lot of the ballgame.
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
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No name whatshis face (Gillespie?) almost won in 2014.
Maybe she has a shot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (vur0q)
Posted by: Hillary at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (XoldI)
Right wing. As in Soros.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 21, 2017 03:39 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 21, 2017 03:39 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:39 PM (2tdQE)
New Yorker describing election night, with one story of a guy in the White House weeping, then being comforted by President Obama
http://tinyurl.com/zrksvah
"At this point, I broke down. This was not the poised sniffling that the moment called for. I was full-blown ugly crying in the Oval Office as the President gave us a pep talk."
and Democrat IT guys taking Iranian cash
http://tinyurl.com/zctzzae
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (ZFUt7)
Apparently the Saudis have lost shitloads of them, and we have lost them too.
So they are not what they once were.
Posted by: blaster at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (tewYv)
How was that NOT a gigantic story in itself? "CIA CYPHER CLAIMS TO WANT TO THROW THE ELECTION"
And how is a NOT a gigantic story that Obama, former president, remained in DC, and is using his OFA army of community organizers and hold-overs from his administration to torpedo a sitting president???
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: 13times at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (wB8Tg)
WASP types of both parties, don't "negotiate." They don't have to.
That's something blue collar peons-- the "tacky unwashed masses"-- have to do.
So when Trump does something like this-- or when he saves the taxpayers a BILLION on a jet-- they look down their noses.
Bargaining is crass and low class.
They're better than that.
And that's how we got Trump.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (J5mC3)
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER!
To Hands, also.
Posted by: Roy at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (VndSC)
Don't forget us !!!
Posted by: Wrists at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (RWSlt)
I wonder what age Shep had his first gay experience. Ok, no I don't, I just wanted to say he was gay. Because he is...gay.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Skip at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (HDU3V)
Posted by: Hand me the pliers at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (49Y1z)
"He'll keep on as he was, just without the Breitbart affiliation."
he was already in the process of building his own brand. We will see how successful he is at continuing to do so. The end of that press conference was basically a brand promotion. I'm biased but I think that he played that pretty well.
Posted by: connor at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (0kVnk)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (NOIQH)
Well, that's easy, the MFM are OFA.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: kallisto at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (kD8Fh)
To be fair to him, he said he does not condone under age sex. But then went back to the example of a 17 year old with an old queen as being a good thing for the 17 year old.
Because something is legal doesn't make it morally or socially acceptable.
Abortion for example.
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (cWhln)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (fDdVG)
Just don't bother with the forum, it's run by SJWs.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:17 PM (wB8Tg)
SJW infestation?
This make
(*copyright considerations, you know)
Posted by: moronhorde minion at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (88jeI)
Say I am the bodyguard, and part of the deal I made is for the pussy target to shape up a bit and not be such an easy target. And he doesn't do it. My next demand is pretty simple - buy me a nightstick and some brass knuckles. Since, fuck it, I'm going to have to fight alone, and I don't like losing.
Not only that, I don't trust the pussy target to buy me what I need. He's an idiot. So hand me the cash, and I will buy it myself.
So, NATO won't spend 3% GDP on defense? Great, write a fat check to the United States for the reminder. That should...clarify things.
Posted by: Old G at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (UgF8H)
Posted by: Pluto, A Planet and a Damn Good One at February 21, 2017 03:31 PM (V9SUM)
............
Well, if you really want him, we could drop McCain off and he could be King of Pluto for about a split second.
Posted by: wth at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: zombie cardinal richelieu at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (nlbfN)
As the child grows into adulthood, this can lead to all kinds of dysfunctional thinking, such as it is OK for an older man to initiate a child into the joys of The Life.
So sad.
Posted by: kallisto at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (2tdQE)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (V9SUM)
Police respond to report of shots fired at Ben Taub Hospital in Houston,
patients being wheeled out on gurneys
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (ZFUt7)
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/murders
But don't stop at the names/faces. Check out the country of origin.
Obviously Obama's people forgot to make that information confidential, classified, not relevant and discriminatory,
Posted by: Ripley at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (1BQGO)
Shep is this > < close to having a scary gun hissy fit.
Do it Shep. GO THERE!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:38 PM (PY9jH)
If shep didn't have a hissy fit over something, he'd have nothing. It's his schtick, it's all he's got.
Posted by: Tami at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (Enq6K)
Loved it. He kept it chastened and low-key all the way to the end, then he let them have it.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:28 PM (ul9CR)
That's what they were constantly doing with him too. Just about every media outlet would call him a racist nazi white nationalist, etc. in an article. And then when called on it they would walk it back. It was like clockwork. And its the typical behavior. Get the lie out there so everyone sees it and then a day later issue a correction in "sotto voce" that no one notices.
Posted by: buzzion at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER!
To Hands, also.
Posted by: Roy at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (VndSC)
Don't forget us !!!
Posted by: Wrists
<<<<<<<<<<<
I really thought I would be first mentioned around here.
Posted by: Elbows at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (ODxAs)
That he credits his ability to give blowjobs to a priest who taught him how when he was 13.
Posted by: JEM at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (TppKb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (39g3+)
I read a book once about the 70s arts and music scene in NYC. Ginsberg seems to have had a number of shockingly young, male "roommates" who he would "look out for."
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (ul9CR)
back in the early 90's - in an article published in the Rocky Mountain
Times.
I seem to recall Eve Enseler writing about a similar situation - a 13 year old seduced by an older lesbian - in her "The Vagina Monologues."
*She's since changed the kid;s age to 16.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (NOIQH)
That said, I'm not sure how making Mike Pence the President does anything for Egg McMuffin's ambitions.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (KUTP5)
To be fair to him, he said he does not condone under age sex.
In those circles, "under age" is rather flexible.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (49Y1z)
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (PjWy4)
<<<
I thought Takai was molesting a bunch of pepperoni pizzas during the Big Game If I remember right, the little fella was prancer-cising and chowing at the same time.
Posted by: Fritz at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (2Mnv1)
"Struggling business Kellogs is looking at opening up Pop Tart cafes
around the nation. While I admire them looking for new and different
business opportunities, this seems like a really bad idea."
The company may shuffle of the mortal corporate coil but the Foundation, where the real left agenda gets funded, will continue on on.
BTW. pedantic, but it is my hometown, it's Kay, Eee, Double L, Oh, Double "Good" Kelloggs f*cks you too.
Posted by: geoffb5 at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (d3wbb)
His family were Jewish immigrants from the Austro-Hungarian empire and his father Jacob Nathan Taub moved to Texas in 1882. Ben Taub's family were poor and his father used to sell newspapers to make their living. Jacob Nathan later opened a tobacco store in downtown Houston.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (ZFUt7)
--
Oh yeah, he's gay.
I know someone who says he's gay (has had experiences with both sexes, so I say bi) who was um.. orally molested by a male babysitter at the age of four. He says it wasn't a scary experience, and was pleasurable.
Anecdotally, this person has no children, and really, really regrets it.
I wonder if, back in the day, he would have simply not acted on those gay feelings, married a woman, had a family and lived happily ever after.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (J5mC3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 21, 2017 03:36 PM (UfIVU)
Bow chicka bow wow.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (wB8Tg)
These guys are intent to start a new civil war in this country.
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (a0IVu)
And that was indefensible how? A number of priests were pedophiles. Was he endorsing it or just saying "That's how I learned some sexual skills"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (fDdVG)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:19 PM (cWhln)
We had a gay kid in our High School class. Statistics being what they are, I think we only had one or at least only one who was not deep in the closet (it was the late 70s early 80s.
Anyway, he had got desperate to the point of sending notes in the library cubicles to guys offering a blow job. His hormones were kicking in like most of the heterosexual kids who were getting hand jobs and blow jobs and screwing. He was about as isolated as you could get, unfortunately. He fairly quickly got a beat down from sending a note to the wrong guy, and became a pariah at the same time.
In that context I think what Milo said makes a fair degree of sense, more so than in the heterosexual world where sexual outlets with similar aged people are not all that hard to make happen, whether that's desirable as parents or society or not. I would imagine the main challenge for such a kid is finding another person, kid or adult, with the same orientation. Though that might be a bit easier today.
Ace noted that for vulnerable teens these relationships can be an issue. But then the same applies for relationships with people of the same age.
I was, at one time, a bit of an over committer. I didn't get burned by an older women, but I burned myself with girls and women my own age and got burned by some of my girlfriends who took advantage of that shortcoming. I had an older woman who actually helped me move towards a more healthy outlook (though I was in my 20 at the time). So, I don't reflexively recoil from the idea that a gay 17 year old with a male sex drive is necessarily all that vulnerable. We had a 17 year old in my basic platoon ready to kill and die for his country, FWIW.
Posted by: Keith at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (USf3s)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (lPDqu)
Still fucking with the restaurant my wife and I bought for the daughter.
Now, Sysco, the national restaurant supply giant, is refusing to sell her sausages.
For cash.
Does that make any sense?
They tell her to fill out the credit app online. In the area that says "trade references" she puts "none" because she doesn't have any yet. The form doesn't accept that answer. Do you think you can get someone on the phone who can bypass that portion?
Fuck no.
The local rep can't even take an order that is prepaid without having this particular credit application filled out. Even though the last thing we need is credit to buy fucking sausages. However, those sausages are the ones her customers are used to, so that's what she wants.
Apparently, there is no check box for someone with tons of money and no trade references to click on.
My frustration level is at about eleventy-five.
Luckily the guy who brought the last batch of 180 dozen eggs from a local farm was happy to take cash. He apparently doesn't have a corporate credit manager to answer to.
What has this country come to?
Posted by: jwest at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: zombie cardinal richelieu at February 21, 2017 03:42 PM (nlbfN)
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The SJW media really is a new inquisition with less accountability.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (xeeHA)
I thought Takai was molesting a bunch of pepperoni pizzas during the Big Game If I remember right, the little fella was prancer-cising and chowing at the same time.
Posted by: Fritz at February 21, 2017 03:44 PM (2Mnv1)
Oh My!!
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (mHL0c)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (lutOX)
Police respond to report of shots fired at Ben Taub Hospital in Houston,
patients being wheeled out on gurneys
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum
Why are they being wheeled OUT of the hospital?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 21, 2017 03:46 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2017 03:46 PM (52pmj)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 21, 2017 03:46 PM (49Y1z)
As I understand it, he said pedophilia is evil, but didn't disavow pederasty.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (kP16F)
Homosexuals reproduce by abuse.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (PjWy4)
White House weeping, then being comforted by President Obama
http://tinyurl.com/zrksvah
"At this point, I broke down. This was not the poised sniffling that
the moment called for. I was full-blown ugly crying in the Oval Office
as the President gave us a pep talk."
What a pathetic little pajama boy. Of course he went to work in the WH straight out of college. And he "ugly cried" in front of TFG.
Bless his heart.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (PY9jH)
I doubt that will ever happen, but the CRISIS IN NATO is at least on pause for a few days, until the poor dears start exciting themselves up all over again, drinking sugared soda and getting all fidgety on gummy worms.
-Ace
Look more carefully, those are Haribo Sugar Free Bears. That's what's loosening NATO solidarity.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:47 PM (ZFUt7)
In the case of the sadly many women I know of who were molested as girls, it tends to have a very detrimental effect on their understanding of sexuality: they tend to either become oversexualized, "sluts" or extremely hostile toward sex, "frigid." Some become lesbians, but was that because of the molestation or their inherent inclination? Impossible to know without a time machine.
Either way, there's no question that sexual activity before a child is ready to deal with the power of it emotionally and mentally is very bad. No matter what the left tries to tell us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2017 03:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 21, 2017 03:48 PM (PY9jH)
Peeeyure gold.
Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, out with the chump in with the Trump at February 21, 2017 03:48 PM (1aMQH)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 21, 2017 03:48 PM (2tdQE)
(*copyright considerations, you know)
Posted by: moronhorde minion at February 21, 2017 03:41 PM (88jeI)
Man, now I'm remembering defeating Grond in the group instance on Champions Online.
That game is still going, though there hasn't been much new for a while. If I hadn't played most of the story I might even go back, but.... too much annoyance for too little benefit.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:48 PM (wB8Tg)
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Now that's thinking ahead to wear your own orange jumpsuit to the crime.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 21, 2017 03:49 PM (V9SUM)
Posted by: IC at February 21, 2017 03:49 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Ian S. at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (KUTP5)
What spine Pence has, was installed by Trump. If Trump goes down, Pence reverts to GOPe. Probably appoints Bill Kristol as Veep and Egg McMuffin as Chief of Staff.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 21, 2017 03:49 PM (hA1V+)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2017 03:46 PM (52pmj)
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Nobody knows anybody, not that well.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (lutOX)
I dated a guy who was somewhat bi; his first sexual experience was under the age of consent, with a guy. (Interestingly and sadly, that recent study from NY Presbyterian? Don't recall, said a large number of people who identified as gay had been abused sexually as a child.) The ex never characterized it as 'abuse', although there was a large age gap and he was 15 I believe. I always wondered if he just didn't want to plumb those depths or he just accepted it as part of his experience or what. The little he said on it in an odd way reminded me of what Milo said, although, again, poor choice to speak about.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (Gim9y)
Sorry, couldn't figure out how to make my sentiment clear. I think that those things combined sound like they could be a hoot even though individually I wouldn't find them interesting.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (sEDyY)
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Incidentally - Milo seems to agree with this. (I've seen him say that the "gays are born that way" line is bullshit 1980s propaganda.) He's also said that if he could flip a switch and turn himself straight, he'd do it, and that Catholicism is right about everything, sex and marriage included.
He's obviously working lots of things out for himself in full public view. Probably deserves a little slack.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (OVUYQ)
For cash.
Does that make any sense?
Posted by: jwest at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)
You're tellin' me, honey.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (RWSlt)
Trouble is, he was starting to mainstream. He killed it on Maher. Can't have that
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 21, 2017 03:37 PM (SIY7D)
Yes he was mainstreaming which made his charitably chaotic stance on consent a deathblow. I don't care what the homosexual community thinks is normal because the community is perverted. Flip one of the sexes and no one would approve. People don't approve of 30+ year old guys having sex with 14 - 17 year old girls for a host of intelligent reasons. Just because it's man-boy doesn't suddenly make it okay.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Ian S.
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because it would be Dubya Bush 2.0 That's what they want to back to. Trump though upsets the whole apple cart.
If in some alternate universe Mike Pence was our nominee and won, it would be the same basic Bush NeoCon platform with maybe a little more social conservatism sprinkled in.
I don't think he's the devil, but I guarantee you every Establishment impulse out of the WH comes from Pence.
Posted by: Maritime at February 21, 2017 03:50 PM (J591N)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 21, 2017 03:51 PM (/f1mm)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
lol. Yeah, its kind of a cluster of fuck of misinformation. You know the routine.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 21, 2017 03:51 PM (ZFUt7)
Can I get a couple of packages of ketchup from ya?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:51 PM (lPDqu)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 21, 2017 03:51 PM (AHKXf)
Posted by: JEM at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (TppKb)
This is just tragic, for Milo and every other child who had to endure such a violation. Any kind of healthy intellectual and emotional development that the child was experiencing just goes of the rails at the moment he/she is raped.
Milo still needs to heal from that trauma. He probably thinks it's all in the past, but as a sex abuse survivor I know it takes decades to heal. I'm going to pray for him. I hope he'll come out of this stronger.
From browsing around on social media, it appears that he has a lot of support and the general consensus is this is a hit job.
Posted by: kallisto at February 21, 2017 03:51 PM (kD8Fh)
That he credits his ability to give blowjobs to a priest who taught him how when he was 13.
Posted by: JEM at February 21, 2017 03:43 PM (TppKb)
Fenelonspoke, the above quote is from a late night radio interview he did with someone I've never heard of. Milo's enemies found the recording and posted the quote along with some other flip, off the cuff comments Milo made in response to being egged on by the interviewer.
It is not unlike Trump's pussy comments although in this case, Milo knew he was being recorded. Stuff you wouldn't say to just anyone but might say as a one upper in friendly banter.
The problem , IMO, is he dug himself in deeper, when in responding to this "outing" of the comments, he went through a statement of his opinion that pedophilia is wrong, he despises it, etc. but then started explaining and backing the acquiring of young confused gay men at age 17(legal in Great Britain, not legal everywhere here) by older gay men who bed them and parade them around the gay community. He said he thought that was a good thing for the 17 year old because it helped them feel better about being gay.
Well, put an anorexic into a room full of anorexics with laxatives and toilets and they might feel better too. For a while until they realized how used they were.
Posted by: Jen at February 21, 2017 03:52 PM (cWhln)
The M1 had not been defeated - until it was.
Apparently the Saudis have lost shitloads of them, and we have lost them too.
So they are not what they once were.
Posted by: blaster at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (tewYv)
Or maybe it's because they have been being used in built up areas which is not a mission tanks are design for.Rolling down a narrow city street tanks lose all their maneuverabilty and makes them highly vunerable to anti armor weapons
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 21, 2017 03:52 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:52 PM (lPDqu)
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 21, 2017 03:52 PM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 21, 2017 03:54 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 21, 2017 03:45 PM (fDdVG)
I think he was more flippantly dealing with *what happened* and *why it happens*. He is a flippant person.
The whole "supports X" argument is *literally* just applying a maximally-hostile interpretation to what he said, and then treating him as if the hostile interpretation is true.
Basically, the left/establishment are turning the entirety of society into a divorce court.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:54 PM (wB8Tg)
Playing Overwatch or something else would be cool too, although I'm in a bit of an Ark/Conan Exiles spell now.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at February 21, 2017 03:54 PM (Gim9y)
The M1 had not been defeated - until it was.
Apparently the Saudis have lost shitloads of them, and we have lost them too.
So they are not what they once were.
Posted by: blaster at February 21, 2017 03:40 PM (tewYv)
Don't think we've lost any crew from it being hit though we've lost some from drowning. IIRC.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 21, 2017 03:55 PM (lPDqu)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 21, 2017 03:55 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Skip at February 21, 2017 03:55 PM (HDU3V)
Posted by: Anna Puma
IIRC David Drake did a couple of short stories where US units in Vietnam just wiped out aliens or monsters because it was the fastest way back out of injun country.
Posted by: DaveA at February 21, 2017 03:55 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatin
The thing there is that they had a base of of Russian nationals living in Ukraine prepping for a conflict for decades. Without that base, the Russians would have had a harder time at it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2017 03:56 PM (4YGWz)
Apparently the Saudis have lost shitloads of them, and we have lost them too.
So they are not what they once were.
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Not all M1s are created equal.
I've heard that the version exported to our Middle Eastern allies doesn't have the heavy depleted uranium armor.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2017 03:56 PM (nsZ+m)
Posted by: Steely Dan at February 21, 2017 03:58 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: geoffb5 at February 21, 2017 03:59 PM (d3wbb)
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 21, 2017 04:02 PM (MIKMs)
What's the difference between Donald Trump and liberal Jews?
Trump has Jewish grandchildren.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 21, 2017 04:04 PM (ZM2xo)
Ace, love the Miller's Crossing reference--one of my favorites and maybe the most anti-PC movies ever! Suggested it to wifey last week, she loved it so much she asked to watch it the next night, too. Every scene is riddled with old-school ethnic slurs, all meant in the nicest way, lol.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 21, 2017 04:17 PM (ZaIwe)
Lots of bragging and come up short on the numbers.
Posted by: Mathers at February 21, 2017 04:35 PM (3myMJ)
And the Mormans that drink,
So pay attention, Cuz,
It ain't as simple as you think.
They say there's some
That don't believe in either,
But I ain't met 'em yet
And my Ma ain't neither.
"Family Reunion"
Posted by: Corn Lund and the Hurtin' Albertans at February 21, 2017 05:15 PM (VwoJ6)
A. you have balls
B. your not a politician
Posted by: name at February 21, 2017 05:49 PM (En9Fa)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 21, 2017 03:26 PM (OVUYQ)
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Bingo.
If they think he'll shut up now, they badly miscalculated.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 21, 2017 06:32 PM (adsVM)
By the way, the very last thing this country needs to do is to strike any kind of grand bargain with Russia. Our government needs to make plain that NATO isn't going anywhere and that Russia just needs to suck it up.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at February 21, 2017 06:38 PM (Bm4ql)
But seriously, what does Steverino have to say?
Posted by: The Ugly American at February 21, 2017 11:06 PM (0thXw)
The night that the air raids started Gulf War I, January 16th, 1991, I was at St. Bartholomew's Church in midtown Manhattan (this used to be Jackie Kennedy's church, so you get the socio-economics). As I was walking out with some friends and acquaintances, I saw the aerial bombardment of Baghdad on the security guard's TV. We were stunned, and the guard said, "The war has started!"
One of the women, a typical snot-nosed liberal, said haughtily, "Well, that's too bad. But at least WE don't know anyone who's in the military!"
My brother was an Air Force pilot, and I felt a hot flame of rage consume me. I got in the bitch's face and said, tensely, "You know ME, and MY BROTHER is in the AIR FORCE."
She was completely stunned, and with some embarrassment (hey, this was 26 years ago), she apologized.
But that's just the thing: "Liberals" of her type are blisteringly arrogant, cruelly contemptuous of those who fight and die to keep their sorry fucking asses in one piece. And they're also so fucking sure that everyone who DOES serve in the military must be a toothless redneck. [The "toothless rednecks," in many cases, are morally, and certainly patriotically, vastly superior to these assholes.]
So, you see -- Leftoids have No Skin in the Game. No Kin in the Game, either. They regard patriotic Americans who fight and die in our wars as their janissaries, and they are just as happy to see our boys die. [See Jane C**tface Fonda.]
There are no words to express my detestation of those types. My family's honor roll: Brother, USAF Captain; cousin, USN fighter pilot, USS Nimitz; great-uncle, brigadier general, Patton's Third Army, WW II; cousin, bird colonel, US Army; uncle, artillery spotter, Korean War; and on and on. All the way back to the French and Indian War. I'm fiercely proud of our MEN, but Leftoid scum don't know the meaning of Honor, or the meaning of American Manhood.
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