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Another Fake Hate Crime Exposed

The media loves easy-peasy-to-write #Trend stories, but for some reason, they won't touch this very-well-documented #Trend.

After months of investigating, Ann Arbor police believe that two of three claims of possible hate crimes in November 2016 were false reports.

The three incidents were reported on Nov. 11, Nov. 12 and Nov. 15, 2016, in downtown Ann Arbor, near the University of Michigan.

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Hate crimes lower in Michigan in 2015, but trend may be in jeopardy

Um, that's a headline that they threw in the middle of the article to get you to click on it, right?

How funny is it that in a story revealing that at least two of three reported hate crimes in Ann Arbor were false reports, they throw in the alarmist headline that hate crimes might be going up?

Back to the story:


Ann Arbor police Detective Lt. Matthew Lige said after an exhaustive investigation, the inconsistencies with the reported victim's statements and lack of surveillance footage of the incident as reported led police to submit as request for criminal charges.

"Flat out, it did not happen," Lige said of the Nov. 15 report.

The woman who reported the incident - a 21-year-old Ann Arbor woman - could face a misdemeanor charge for falsely reporting a misdemeanor assault, but that will be decided after review by the county prosecutor's office.

She won't be charged. They never are.

By the way, there is in fact a rash of hate crimes going on, but the media absolutely refuses to mention it let alone denounce it, because they're on the side of political violence against the right people.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) says he is "outraged beyond words" after a left-wing mob knocked a 71-year-old staffer at his Huntington Beach office unconscious during a protest on Valentine's Day. Activists from a group called Indivisible OC said they were simply delivering Valentine’s Day cards when the "unfortunate" accident occurred.

...

The police were called to the scene, but made no arrests.

Of course not.

There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly permitting these violent black-bloc progressives to terrorize law abiding citizens.

[I]t is not clear to me how eager UC Berkeley is to apprehend those responsible for the attack [at the Milo Yiannopolous event]. (As I noted in my original post, authorities made several arrests that night, but they were not of any of the actual attackers.) And, as the always-informative Heather Mac Donald has recounted, at least some UC Berkeley faculty members did not seem particularly disappointed about Yiannopoulos being shut down. For example, Deborah Blocker, associate professor of French, cheerfully noted after the attack that "[m]ostly this was typical Black Bloc action, in a few waves --very well-organized and very efficient. They attacked property but they attacked it very sparingly, destroying just enough University property to obtain the cancelation order for the [Yiannopoulos] event and making sure no one in the crowd got hurt."

I hope UC Berkeley authorities will be able to announce some progress on the investigation soon....

UC Berkeley, and perhaps City of Berkeley, authorities need to vigorously move forward with their own investigations. Otherwise questions will linger about how is that more than 100 organized attackers can invade the campus without being called to account.

This is how you get vigilantism.


Posted by: Ace at 07:00 PM




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1 Shocked shocked etc

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:52 PM (LTHVh)

2 also First!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (LTHVh)

3 Trifecta?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (LTHVh)

4 Jesssss!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (LTHVh)

5 1st?

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (Sfs6o)

6 I'll summon The Others.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (LTHVh)

7 WHO BACKLASHED MUSLIM IS THIS?

Posted by: AL SHARPTON at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (V5L4f)

8 Damnit!

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 06:53 PM (Sfs6o)

9 Are any "hate crimes" real?

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 06:54 PM (iT57s)

10 Who is compiling lists of fake hate crimes, with evidence thereof.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 15, 2017 06:54 PM (OzJeO)

11 Threads coming fast tonight.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 06:55 PM (Frvrc)

12 en fuego

Posted by: that guy that whispers en fuego becasue he doesn't want to be deported at February 15, 2017 06:55 PM (LTHVh)

13 FUCK YEAH!!!!!

Posted by: Charles Bronson at February 15, 2017 06:55 PM (89T5c)

14 >>Who is compiling lists of fake hate crimes, with evidence thereof.


Southern Poverty Improv Center

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (V5L4f)

15
Fake hate crimes? Never heard of them. I wrote some, but never heard of them.

- - C. Gibson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (mbhDw)

16 Apropos of nothing, how many years has it been since the comment box tool bar actually worked? 5 years? 10?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (LTHVh)

17 Ann Arbor. Berkeley with snow.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (TppKb)

18 Posted by: The Political Hat at February 15, 2017 06:54 PM (OzJeO)

That may be a niche that can be filled by an intrepid blogger?

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (iT57s)

19 Ben Rhodes driving the leaks promoting the fake Russian connection story.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (Frvrc)

20 >>Threads coming fast tonight.


It's been a while...

Posted by: The Thread at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (V5L4f)

21 There was an incident at Villanova U, in the posh suburbs outside of Philadelphia, shortly after the election. Local news jumped all over it.

The story: A young woman of color was walking the underground tunnel that leads to the public transit stop. Three Villanova students, white males chanting TRUMP! - pushed her to the ground.

the moment I heard that story it was just implausible. First of all, Villanova guys don't want to get their hair mussed. Secondly: boys chanting TRUMP - how corny. It sounds like a homemade comic strip drawn by your kid brother when he was bored on a rainy day.

Of course the accuser dropped the story when the local cops came up with nothing.

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (kD8Fh)

22 Apropos of nothing, how many years has it been since the comment box tool bar actually worked? 5 years? 10?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (LTHVh)

=====

I've never even seen this toolbar.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (bUjWk)

23 Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 06:54 PM (iT57s)

Only those against Jews. Attacks against Christians don't count as hate crimes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 15, 2017 06:58 PM (sEDyY)

24 Oath Keepers had a roundup of which cities were serious about law and order, and which ones weren't. Based on their own experience telling the local authorities about the plans of the groups they'd infiltrated.

And yes, Oath Keepers acted as (law-abiding) vigilantes, in the purest sense of "vigilance groups"; no governments gave them orders. I'm unsure where the line is drawn before people start going full Bacaudae.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (6FqZa)

25 Threads coming fast tonight.

After ace's comment earlier I expected the full colonblow, three pages of outrage in one post.



Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (TppKb)

26 >>I've never even seen this toolbar.


Because you aren't above 'Wet Cardboard' Level Membership.

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (V5L4f)

27 This is how you get vigilantism.


It's how Germany got the Freikorps in 1919, after the Spartacists made their move in Munich and Berlin, setting up a short-lived Soviet in the former.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (SRKgf)

28 23 Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 06:54 PM (iT57s)

Only those against Jews. Attacks against Christians don't count as hate crimes.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 15, 2017 06:58 PM (sEDyY)

You mean Muzzies. Anti-semitic hate crimes are downplayed, unless a non muslim commits them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (mbhDw)

29 Apropos of nothing, how many years has it been since the comment box tool bar actually worked? 5 years? 10?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (LTHVh)


It was a thing of beauty when it worked, but a couple of @assh0les made sure we can't have nice things!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (UDXti)

30 When the police will no longer enforce the laws, then what will the civil population do then?

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (9iR5/)

31 According to journalistic powerhouse US Weekly, Melania is miserable and hates her new life. One, I highly doubt it. Two, if she does maybe you could make that easier for her by not mean-girling her to death, hmm?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gsb2okz

The comments are surprisingly supportive of her and bash the article. Since when did Yahoo get rational people reading its news?

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (hvf9s)

32 26 >>I've never even seen this toolbar.


Because you aren't above 'Wet Cardboard' Level Membership.
Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (V5L4f)


I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)

33 A young woman of color


Sounds like she was a person of lie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (SRKgf)

34 We have a toolbox? With tools?

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (Sfs6o)

35 31-

Might become uncivil.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (89T5c)

36 You mean Muzzies. Anti-semitic hate crimes are downplayed, unless a non muslim commits them.

I thought the Obama-era idea was to let the Muslims deal with the Jews and the Christians back home, so that we wouldn't have to deal with the apostates here.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (TppKb)

37 I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)


Yes, but you're a n00b Coblogger!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (UDXti)

38 I am on an IPad and do not see the toolbar. I remember it was on my IE browsers.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (iT57s)

39 30 When the police will no longer enforce the laws, then what will the civil population do then?
Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (9iR5/)


Not be civil any more.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (mbhDw)

40 The left is truly the ideology of unintended consequences. The number of people who listen to and believe broadcast media is falling. Special snowflakes have been put on the back burner to melt. And who truly believes any hate crime story at face value?

Talk about crying wolf too many times.

The left has taken all of it's shekels out of the Bank of Public Relations and has spent them recklessly.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (nQ10o)

41 There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly letting people terrorize you
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Depends where you live. In a deep blue city in a blue state? Your chances of police passively standing by while you get the snot kicked out of you are higher than if you live in normal-people flyover territory.


The fights are in the blue cities. Don't live in a blue city. It's hazardous to your well-being.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (bpfzP)

42 I've never even seen this toolbar.

You can still see it if you allow scripting from mu.nu, of course, it doesn't work and you look ampersands.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (LTHVh)

43 What we think of as modern policing arose in no small part in order to restrain the natural human response to beat the ever loving hell out of people acting like this.

The social compact works only when the compact is respected. When police refuse to stop those who are attacking the public, the public will revert to historical norm.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (dEQP3)

44 I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.

Who did you have to sleep with to attain that status?

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (TppKb)

45 We have a toolbox? With tools?

It's a big flashlight with a metal stenciled cover.

It's shaped like a giant Ewok.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (6FqZa)

46 Know how they win? It's similar to catching right-thinking folks referring to the mentally ill by the sex they choose instead of the sex they are.

It's similar to why "Jackie" from the Rolling Stone article is still protected by relative anonymity even after being proven a liar who destroyed God knows how many lives and fortunes.

What are their names?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (/f1mm)

47 44 I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.

Who did you have to sleep with to attain that status?
Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (TppKb)


Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (mbhDw)

48 We have a toolbox? With tools?
Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (Sfs6o)

Nah we have all the tools, & no Toolbox

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (y3aQB)

49 >>I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.


Sure.

But you are the Lowliest of all the Loggers of Cob..

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (V5L4f)

50 the commenters on Yahoo's news articles lean hard right, from what I've seen

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (6FqZa)

51 It's a big flashlight with a metal stenciled cover.

It came from Harbor Freight.

It works okay, but it smells like Chinese grease.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (TppKb)

52 I see the toolbar in firefox but not safari.

Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (/Nite)

53 >> There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly permitting these violent black-bloc progressives to terrorize law abiding citizens.


Also, there is a very real question as to whether water is secretly wet.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (/dvDR)

54 My favorite fake news story:

About a year ago, following protests at Mizzou, Vanderbilt held an anti-racism rally in solidarity. The very next day someone left a bag of shit in front of the Vandy black cultural center.

Outrage ensued. Media was all over it.

Until a blind student confessed that her seeing-eye dog had pooped and she couldn't find a trash can -- because she's blind!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (SIY7D)

55 Test

Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (/Nite)

56 Sorry the Melania comment is OT so early in the thread! I just wanted to vent. On topic is the fact the media wants to push mean spiritedness against the wrong people; all of the Trumps are the wrong people.

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (hvf9s)

57 Can I be Batman? I've got the dead parents - still working on the peak physical condition and billionaire part.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (OuELg)

58 You can still see it if you allow scripting from mu.nu, of course, it doesn't work and you look ampersands.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (LTHVh)

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That explains it. I visit here with that bugfest Javascript turned off.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (bUjWk)

59 When the police will no longer enforce the laws, then what will the civil population do then?

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (9iR5/)

Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (iT57s)

60 Safety pin? Is that still a thing?

Posted by: tu3031 at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (qJhUV)

61 Doesn't do shit though after you hit post the formatting goes away.

Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (/Nite)

62 More ammo.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (97XyN)

63 I found the Poop, though!

Posted by: Blind Girl at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (V5L4f)

64 According to journalistic powerhouse US Weekly, Melania is miserable and hates her new life. One, I highly doubt it. Two, if she does maybe you could make that easier for her by not mean-girling her to death, hmm?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gsb2okz

The comments are surprisingly supportive of her and bash the article. Since when did Yahoo get rational people reading its news?
Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (hvf9s)


From what I have found, the comments at Yahoo (fuck them) generally tend towards pretty Conservative.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Pd7Sl)

65 Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat.

More in sorrow than in anger, but it takes a lot of sorrow to get there.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (TppKb)

66
51 It's a big flashlight with a metal stenciled cover.

It came from Harbor Freight.

It works okay, but it smells like Chinese grease.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (TppKb)
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Well I hope it's not one of these homo toolboxes I've heard about full of paper clips and clothes pins and other assorted non-tool detritus.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Sfs6o)

67 LizLem, here's a Daily Mail article with some lovely pics of the meeting with the Netanyahus today.


http://dailym.ai/2llgB3K

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (dEQP3)

68

What are their names?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 15, 2017 07:02 PM (/f1mm)


This. NAME THEM.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (nQ10o)

69 hey attacked property but they attacked it very sparingly, destroying just enough University property to obtain the cancelation order for the [Yiannopoulos] event and making sure no one in the crowd got hurt."


Besides the people that were assaulted and pepper sprayed.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (z/Ubi)

70 Wow. Marc Thiessen just listed off a huge number of leaks that have come out since Trump took office. I had no idea it was this big and I'm watching pretty closely.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (/tuJf)

71 Our faux hate crimes were real because they could have happened. Resist!

Posted by: Oberlin College at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (bc2Lc)

72 "very well-organized and very efficient. They attacked property but they attacked it very sparingly, destroying just enough"

Not like Kristallnacht, which was just a bit excessive, no?

So we are progressing, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (SIY7D)

73 19 Ben Rhodes driving the leaks promoting the fake Russian connection story.
Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM (Frvrc)

He needs to locked-up in Federal ass-rape prison for what he has done to the country

Posted by: Batterup at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (mtGE/)

74 43 What we think of as modern policing arose in no small part in order to restrain the natural human response to beat the ever loving hell out of people acting like this.

The social compact works only when the compact is respected. When police refuse to stop those who are attacking the public, the public will revert to historical norm.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (dEQP3)



As Glenn Reynolds says, the police are not there to protect the populace from criminals, but rather to protect the criminals from the populace.

If the police are ineffective, you end up with Sicilian-style vendettas, as evidenced currently by, e.g., gang tit-for-tat shootings in the ghetto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (SRKgf)

75 What is Black Bloc? Is that like a spray you can use to repel BLM protesters?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (vP09u)

76 " . . . destroying enough university property . . . "

Let's find out where the French teacher lives, and destroy just enough of her property so she gets the message.

Like rip her front door off and drive away with it. Let the breezes blow in a little.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (U6f54)

77 Pan-nationalist black bloc militia.

Posted by: 13times at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (WHVu+)

78 I really need to work in some range time for the new beast. I weighed the FAL today with a full mag and bipod attached and it came in close to 12lbs. You gots to be strong to carry the Right Arm of the Free World.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (LTHVh)

79 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (mbhDw)

He asked if any attacks were real. Attacks against Jews have increased but are downplayed since it's usually muslims doing the attacking. Impossible to tell against Christians. They almost certainly happen as well, but no one in authority will agree to designate it as a hate crime when it does.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (sEDyY)

80 72 "very well-organized and very efficient. They attacked property but they attacked it very sparingly, destroying just enough"
Not like Kristallnacht, which was just a bit excessive, no?
So we are progressing, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (SIY7D)



"Mistakes were made."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (SRKgf)

81 Well I hope it's not one of these homo toolboxes I've heard about full of paper clips and clothes pins and other assorted non-tool detritus.

People who would buy that shit don't go near Harbor Freight.

Harbor Freight is the mined-brush-trail of tool stores. You know what you're looking for and where not to step, you do great. Otherwise, you get your nuts blown off.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (TppKb)

82 59 When the police will no longer enforce the laws, then what will the civil population do then?

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (9iR5/)

Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat.
Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (iT57s)
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They swarm when they attack, the black bloc do. Dozens, scores, on one. Standard streetfighting tactic. There's not likely to be much time - if any - to react.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (lutOX)

83 One of the rioters at Berkeley even boasted of it on twitter, works for UC Berkeley and they haven't even rolled up that guy yet.

Posted by: navybrat at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (w7KSn)

84 I'm kinda a tool but I'm not getting in that box! It looks like it came out of the barrel.

Posted by: Western Slope Mope at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (WrMht)

85 Word!

Posted by: Green Arrow at February 15, 2017 07:08 PM (usCMa)

86 There was an incident at Villanova U, in the posh suburbs outside of Philadelphia, shortly after the election. Local news jumped all over ...
Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 06:57 PM

That happened when I was working there so that story perked my ears up when I heard it. I was searching a time after but could not find anything on it.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:08 PM (Frvrc)

87 Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (hvf9s)

From what I have found, the comments at Yahoo (fuck them) generally tend towards pretty Conservative.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (Pd7Sl)


Yahoo articles tout the left's narrative, but comments are overwhelmingly conservative.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:08 PM (nQ10o)

88 This is how you get vigilantism.

Posted by Ace at 07:00 PM

++++

The Left is withdrawing from the Social Contract. They seem to believe that they can return to tribalism, but that their opponents will still be bound by the contract.

It won't work out that way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (R+30W)

89 Well I hope it's not one of these homo toolboxes I've heard about full of paper clips and clothes pins and other assorted non-tool detritus.


*checks tool box*

That's weird. My homo toolbox has, you know, tools in it.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (dEQP3)

90 Glad to see that Ace got all of that nuisance sleeping stuff out of the way.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (Ivjge)

91 >>One of the rioters at Berkeley even boasted of it on twitter, works for UC Berkeley and they haven't even rolled up that guy yet.

He's supposedly under FBI investigation. Hopefully, they are squeezing him for info.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (/tuJf)

92 Harbor Freight .... Isn't that the place that advertises 12 ton hydraulic floor jacks for 89 cents?

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)

93 This is how you get vigilantism.
***
Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

You'd be a fool to not be armed now if you are at a event that the left-nazis might show up at.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (aZq03)

94 Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (hvf9s)

I had never been on DJT's twitter until I read the last article about the quislings agitating against democratically elected president. When I saw the Donald's timeline, I got upset. So much trolling and hatred against him, and he doesn't block them.

Gave me a sadz.

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (kD8Fh)

95 75 What is Black Bloc? Is that like a spray you can use to repel BLM protesters?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 15, 2017 07:06 PM (vP09u)
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It's a tactic. A collection of small, self-organized and indepenedently led groups, all wearing black, join in with a regular protest group and break off to go smashy-smashy and bashy-bashy. They wear a uniform so they can't be picked out individually, and use the larger crowd - who share their goals - as shields/accomplices.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (lutOX)

96 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (GwIKd)

97 Ever have someone installing a hardwood floor right about the room you're in?


I gotz a headache....

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (Enq6K)

98 16 Apropos of nothing, how many years has it been since the comment box tool bar actually worked? 5 years? 10?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 06:56 PM (LTHVh)



Somewhere in between there. Not like it matters much since it doesn't even appear in most new browser versions because of how old it is.

It was disabled after all the people figured out that they could make funny scrolling marquee text in their comments, which made the blog unreadable for anyone on a phone, and the promotion of it allowed some dipshit trolls to figure out how to exploit it to fully break the blog.

This is also why you can't have hyperlinked text in your comment.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:11 PM (z/Ubi)

99 Yahoo articles tout the left's narrative, but comments are overwhelmingly conservative.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:08 PM (nQ10

+++

I know, it's weird. Yet Yahoo just keeps it up with a persistence.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 15, 2017 07:11 PM (Ivjge)

100 78 I really need to work in some range time for the new beast. I weighed the FAL today with a full mag and bipod attached and it came in close to 12lbs. You gots to be strong to carry the Right Arm of the Free World.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (LTHVh)


Grumpy. Please move next door to me. I'll bake you cookies and you can keep lookout on the roof.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:11 PM (nQ10o)

101 You'd be a fool to not be armed now if you are at a event that the left-nazis might show up at.

So, like, anywhere in Boulder County, then? That's depressing

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 07:12 PM (6FqZa)

102 Dan Rather -This is the biggest scandal of his lifetime (Flynn and Russia)

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:12 PM (Frvrc)

103 I'm fascinated with how the Left "Projects."

e.g., I'd never think of KAC as Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. But that's what the Left now is. "I won't be ignored" and boiling bunnies.

e.g., "The Russians hacked the election." FFS, our Deep State / MSM tried to hack our election (their monitoring of Trump's people started months ago). But they didn't find anything and had to go with just Pussygate

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:12 PM (SIY7D)

104
*checks tool box*

That's weird. My homo toolbox has, you know, tools in it.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (dEQP3)
---------
Well I have to admit to at least one straightened paper clip in my tool box that I needed for something!

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:12 PM (Sfs6o)

105 It won't work out that way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 07:09 PM (R+30W)


It is amazing that we have patiently bided our time as long as we have, but I don't think the patience of those that have the reasonable expectation of a civil society will be easy to lull back into somnolence once the fire has been lit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 07:12 PM (UDXti)

106 What are their names?
Posted by: Moron Robbie


IRS outed conservative donors. Turnabout is fair play.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (vP09u)

107 The problem with self defense in a blue city is that although they ignore the crimes of the progressives rioters, they will come down on you with all the force and energy that the blue state can muster. The police, prosecutors and government will do all in their ability to find and persecute you, not prosecute, persecute.

They will destroy your life and the lives of your family.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (iT57s)

108 getting to the point where I have had enough of this bs. by bs I mean all the bs. technically I think the term is "fed up".

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (cPsPa)

109 >>> LizLem, here's a Daily Mail article with some lovely pics of the meeting with the Netanyahus today.
http://dailym.ai/2llgB3K Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:05 PM (dEQP3)

Yaaaay! Thank you m'lady!

I was happy to read that Karl Lagerfeld was involved in her gorgeous outfit. If there is a ceremonial title of Queen of the Gays, the honor is shared between Lagerfeld and Elton John. If Lagerfeld of all people is on board designing for her, hopefully the other designers will take a hint to shut up and back off.

Article tried to paint a tiff between Melania and Ivana, I'm not buying it. I covet Ivana's chic and effortless looking bun.

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (hvf9s)

110 They are violating federal civil rights laws. Sessions could prosecute and the university, Berkeley, and California would have fuck-all to say about it.

A couple of hundred of them are looking at 10 years in DC for the inauguration riots. I'm hoping to see the DoJ give the Berkeley rioters the same treatment.


Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (9JSAy)

111 I had never been on DJT's twitter until I read the last article about the quislings agitating against democratically elected president. When I saw the Donald's timeline, I got upset. So much trolling and hatred against him, and he doesn't block them.
Gave me a sadz.
Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (kD8Fh)



Maybe he figures sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (SRKgf)

112 That happened when I was working there so that story perked my ears up when I heard it. I was searching a time after but could not find anything on it.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:08 PM (Frvrc)


When it turned out to be a nothingburger local media buried it.

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (kD8Fh)

113 I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)

My toolbar has a toilet brush and a bottle opener.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (rF0hx)

114 I really need to have posture like Melania's. (Among other things.)

Posted by: washrivergal at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (Ivjge)

115 Harbor Freight .... Isn't that the place that advertises 12 ton hydraulic floor jacks for 89 cents?

Not quite so dramatic as that, but yeah.

I don't like buying Chinese stuff, but if I'm gonna buy Chinese stuff I'm gonna buy it at Harbor Freight prices and not Home Depot prices.

I have four $20 4.5in angle grinders, out of a total of probably eight I've bought, they have built so much stuff I can't even list it and at $20 you can sacrifice one if you need to kill it - masonry blade, rubber gauntlets, instant hand-held wetsaw until it dies (and it finished the job.) Have HF transmission jack, oil drain, piles of hand tools, I'd rather have Snap-On but can't afford it and if you shop carefully this stuff works.

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (TppKb)

116 Well I have to admit to at least one straightened paper clip in my tool box that I needed for something!

Useful for removing many hammer springs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (LTHVh)

117 I think it's time somebody updated "The Anarchist's Cookbook".

Because we're going to have to do something with all of those black-clad bodies, and what's wrong with some nice dorq au vin?

Young, stringy, somewhat gamey; perfect for a nice long simmer on the stove.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (nd1zx)

118 102: dan rather needs a brain scan, or tested for dementia. where he at now?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (KP5rU)

119 Andrew Beatty (Twitter) White house press corp is avoiding questions about Russia like the plague

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (Frvrc)

120 I know, it's weird. Yet Yahoo just keeps it up with a persistence.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 15, 2017 07:11 PM (Ivjge)


I've thought it weird for a long time. Since I refuse to tolerate media abuse any longer, I only come here, to Drudge, and to
Politipage.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (nQ10o)

121 Isn't that the place that advertises 12 ton hydraulic floor jacks for 89 cents?

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)

To be fair, they work fine, once!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (UDXti)

122 Would love to see vigilantes spring up armed with Rohypnols then leave the peeps naked and passed out on the steps of police stations.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (usCMa)

123
The fights are in the blue cities. Don't live in a blue city.

Are there red cities?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (IqV8l)

124 "That's weird. My homo toolbox has, you know, tools in it."

From your name, I'm guessing you're a lesbian.

In my experience, lesbians usually have tools that range from good to excellent. Gay guys and straight women? Not so much.


Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (9JSAy)

125 122 Would love to see vigilantes spring up armed with Rohypnols then leave the peeps naked and passed out on the steps of police stations.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (usCMa)


Please. Oh please.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (nQ10o)

126
Oh, very nice:

The FBI released about 400 pages detailing an investigation into PDT's real estate business from the 1970s.

FUCK. YOU. WAR.

h/t Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (mbhDw)

127
I'm now a Coblogger and I don't see any toolbar.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)

You're the guy behind the elephant in the parade.

/s

Posted by: Name Changed To Protect The Innocent Poster at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (5P8ho)

128 There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly permitting these violent black-bloc progressives to terrorize law abiding citizens.


Mmmmyep.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (0mRoj)

129 Of course the black bloc rely upon lenient handling by police and prosecutors.

That's why the black bloc disproportionately undertake their brave "actions" in fever swamps like Berkeley and Seattle: where the municipal apparatus is understood to be run by sympathetic leftist fellow travellers.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (noWW6)

130 102 Dan Rather -This is the biggest scandal of his lifetime (Flynn and Russia

No, trying to pass off poorly made forgeries as real National Guard records was the biggest scandal of your lifetime, Dan.

Just ask your buddy, Lucy Ramirez

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (iT57s)

131 I was happy to read that Karl Lagerfeld was involved in her gorgeous outfit. If there is a ceremonial title of Queen of the Gays, the honor is shared between Lagerfeld and Elton John. If Lagerfeld of all people is on board designing for her, hopefully the other designers will take a hint to shut up and back off.

Article tried to paint a tiff between Melania and Ivana, I'm not buying it. I covet Ivana's chic and effortless looking bun.
Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:13 PM (hvf9s)



The only thing that Lagerfeld loves more than himself is money. He's both a brilliant designer and a canny businessman. He wants the money.

And, yeah, I don't buy the tiff rumors at all.


In we have all the information in the world at our finger tips and watch porn and cats, I just signed up for The Great Courses Plus. Mayhap it's time to watch something that's educational for a change.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (dEQP3)

132 https://tinyurl.com/jktzu5u

-----------------------------------


BREAKING: Kucinich(D) BLASTS Intel Community UNPRECEDENTED Effort to Upend Trump

how does it feel Deep State nto have turned a Communist Sympathizer into a Trump defender

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (y3aQB)

133 >>>As Glenn Reynolds says, the police are not there to protect the populace from criminals, but rather to protect the criminals from the populace.

If the police are ineffective, you end up with Sicilian-style vendettas, as evidenced currently by, e.g., gang tit-for-tat shootings in the ghetto.

That's idiotic.

Shootings in the ghetto because of a lack of police presence are not populace attacking criminals, it's criminals fighting criminals with populace in the crossfire. Lack of police always benefits criminals.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (MK9cc)

134 I watched the San Jose Police point and laugh as Trump supporters were beaten. This goes on in most big cities with unionized police forces. They're just the mob enforcers of the oligarchic class.

If this continuing attempted coup gets hot, you good cops better figure out a way to self-identify. Otherwise, assumptions will have to be made.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (S2VsH)

135 123
The fights are in the blue cities. Don't live in a blue city.

Are there red cities?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (IqV8l)


Small towns. Very charming and typically lower costs of living.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (nQ10o)

136 dan rather needs a brain scan, or tested for dementia. where he at now?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (KP5rU)

I don't know, but he's nuts!

And you thought I was crazy....

Posted by: William Tager at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (rF0hx)

137 I find it interesting that one woman was pepper sprayed in the eyes and her husband was beaten. He had a concussion and broken ribs in spite of wearing a kevlar vest. Yet no one was hurt.

We may need to rethink our support of the police, if they are unwilling to stop the violence against us.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (vP09u)

138
The same Fake News outlets who give these stories A Good Leaving Alone are the same ones who love to report "violent rhetoric at Trump rallies.


Posted by: Your TV at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (JiRjB)

139 132 Posted by: EVLINC! at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (y3aQB)


I'll say this about Dennis Kucinich. He's dead wrong on virtually 100% of every policy issue. But at least he is one of the few on either side with even a scintilla of integrity.

And his wife's a hot ginger.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (mbhDw)

140 Berkley and USC caring about this crap?

Chant after me:

"42 U.S.C.
19-83!"

File a blizzard of lawsuits against our betters who've decided that our rights aren't worth protecting.

Posted by: Furious George at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (77i7V)

141 Puzder's out.

Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (9JSAy)

142 In other news, MI5 has released the content of 400 boulder terlit hobo's diapers from the 1970s. "My god this guy is dirty", said one source, on background. "It's like he had no self-control."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (6FqZa)

143 To be fair, the feminists are all so ugly that nobody would want to get all rapey on them when the law of the jungle takes over.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (usCMa)

144 82 59 When the police will no longer enforce the laws, then what will the civil population do then?

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at February 15, 2017 06:59 PM (9iR5/)

Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat.
Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:04 PM (iT57s)
***
They swarm when they attack, the black bloc do. Dozens, scores, on one. Standard streetfighting tactic. There's not likely to be much time - if any - to react.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (lutOX)


Lay down a base of fire and withdraw.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Pd7Sl)

145 well, we've always kind of known that lots of cops and bureaucrats are liberal hacks first and foremost, and "civil servants" secondly.

I'm not really surprised by any of this. It's not new either. Remember Occupy Wall Street? Or "room to destroy" in Baltimore?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (wmaTe)

146
Violent Rhetoric.

Remember that bullshit? It was actually a Thing in the fake news cycles. Violent rhetoric.

It's time to start Smashing Faces.

Posted by: Your TV at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (JiRjB)

147 FUCK. YOU. WAR.

h/t Weasel Zippers.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (mbhDw)


Unintended Consequence #351: Average Joe and Jane recognize when someone is being picked on. Sane America doesn't like bullies.

The nutso progs have forgotten that the last few elections have been won on the margins. (2008 exception)

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (kD8Fh)

148 So much trolling and hatred against him, and he doesn't block them. Gave me a sadz. Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (kD8Fh)


Andrew Breitbart not only did not block them, he retweeted their vileness for all to see. Trump doesn't go that far, but I'm glad he leaves it out there. Hopefully he is building a thick skin.

The only thing I will begrudge Trump for is not going to Tiffany's defense on Twitter after the snub at NY Fashion Week, when he has previously defended Ivana there from the haters. But then I am the Not Favorite Child, so I am a little more sensitive to that. It's possible he did not want to give Tiff's haters a wider platform, if so bravo for the restraint.

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (hvf9s)

149 Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:14 PM (TppKb)
----------
I actually broke a Craftsman tool recently and marched back to the store to get a free replacement. I showed the part - a broken Allen drive socket thing - to the guy in the tool department. He left to get a manager and a few minutes later I found him selling a tractor to someone else. Never did see a manager, and so I stormed back out of the store.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Sfs6o)

150 From your name, I'm guessing you're a lesbian.

In my experience, lesbians usually have tools that range from good to excellent. Gay guys and straight women? Not so much.


Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (9JSAy)



Half dyke thank you very much.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (dEQP3)

151 ""This is how you get vigilantism.""

That's exactly what popped into my head before I even finished reading the story. I was thinking about the show Arrow and how nice it would be to have a few of those in the shadows.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (aMlLZ)

152 And his wife's a hot ginger.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (mbhDw)

if she is a Hot Ginger, then she is just a Redhead

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (y3aQB)

153 140 File a blizzard of lawsuits against our betters who've decided that our rights aren't worth protecting.
Posted by: Furious George at February 15, 2017 07:18 PM (77i7V)

"We'll get right on it!"

- - US 9th Circuit

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (mbhDw)

154 57 Can I be Batman? I've got the dead parents - still working on the peak physical condition and billionaire part.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (OuELg)

I call Punisher.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (0mRoj)

155 Puzder's out.

--------------

That was supposed to be private pic ! Private !!

Posted by: Carlos Danger at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (c6/9Q)

156 130 102 Dan Rather -This is the biggest scandal of his lifetime (Flynn and Russia

No, trying to pass off poorly made forgeries as real National Guard records was the biggest scandal of your lifetime, Dan.

Just ask your buddy, Lucy Ramirez
Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (iT57s)




Who is Dan Rather?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (nQ10o)

157 To be fair, they work fine, once!

True for some of their stuff. When it comes, for instance, to small angle grinders, they have the 'Drill Master' line and the 'Chicago Electric' line.

I made the mistake of buying one of the former once, and it died within a week. The latter last until I kill them.

I have a cheap SDS hammerdrill that, compared to a decent Siemens or Hilti, is junk. But it cost me one day's rental on one of those at Home Depot and in five years of casual use is still doing fine.

And so on...

Posted by: JEM at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (TppKb)

158 "Never did see a manager, and so I stormed back out of the store."

This is not your father's Sears, and those are not your father's Craftsman tools.

Unfortunately.

Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (9JSAy)

159 a left-wing mob knocked a 71-year-old staffer at his Huntington Beach office unconscious during a protest on Valentine's Day

Anyone else remember the Bush/Cheney offices attacked by union thugs in 2004? Multiple in offices, in multiple states, all in the same day.

A sane government would have RICO'd the unions involved, but the Bush administration did nothing.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (fVubI)

160 Lou Dobbs going full nuclear in his commentary right now.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (dEQP3)

161 Would love to see vigilantes spring up armed with Rohypnols then leave the peeps naked and passed out on the steps of police stations.

Propofol works nicely too-- trust me.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (3C9q2)

162 As an interesting idea...Couldn't a group of conservatives show up wearing all black and then...start messing with the other lefty protesters?

Make people proclaim allegiance Kim Jong-un or something along those lines...?

I wonder what would happen?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (aZq03)

163 I actually broke a Craftsman tool recently and marched back to the store to get a free replacement. I showed the part - a broken Allen drive socket thing - to the guy in the tool department. He left to get a manager and a few minutes later I found him selling a tractor to someone else. Never did see a manager, and so I stormed back out of the store.
Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Sfs6o)


That's fucked up. That MADE the Craftsman brand.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (Pd7Sl)

164 Dennis Prager thought this Flynn exposure is a very important crisis, but in that a private US citizen (Flynn)was recorded by NSA then transcript was illegally leaked out by numerous sources solely for political gain. This could be done to any American and no crime was committed by Gen Flynn.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (Frvrc)

165 160 Lou Dobbs going full nuclear in his commentary right now.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (dEQP3)


Will have to check that for the AM roundup.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)

166
Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Evil prevails when Good Men do Nothing.

Posted by: Your TV at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (JiRjB)

167 "Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat."

A conservative blogger went to a Black Lives Matter protest in Portland, OR, and made no secret of his affiliations or sympathies once there, and of course was subjected to a swarm attack.

He pulled his pistol to hold them off.

He was sentenced to five decades in stir.

Frankly, instead of display of a weapon, he should have just murdered a random passer-by instead. In coastal liberal states these days, you can do that and you'll serve as little as six or seven years before you're back out again.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (noWW6)

168 If the police are ineffective, you end up with
Sicilian-style vendettas, as evidenced currently by, e.g., gang
tit-for-tat shootings in the ghetto.



That's idiotic.



Shootings in the ghetto because of a lack of police presence are not
populace attacking criminals, it's criminals fighting criminals with
populace in the crossfire. Lack of police always benefits criminals.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (MK9cc)

Perhaps my point wasn't clear. Gangs shoot it out in the ghetto in vendettas against each other because the police don't bust gang bangers for doing it.Nothing to do with the populace, OK?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)

169 The FBI released about 400 pages detailing an investigation into PDT's real estate business from the 1970s.

Second look at J. Edgar Hoover!

Posted by: The Left at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (2lndx)

170 Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Sfs6o)

That's fucked up. That MADE the Craftsman brand.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (Pd7Sl)

Too lazy to google, but from what I've heard, Sears is getting rid of craftsman and/or just not honoring tool replacements anymore. I forget the actual story.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (wmaTe)

171 169 The FBI released about 400 pages detailing an investigation into PDT's real estate business from the 1970s.

Second look at J. Edgar Hoover!
Posted by: The Left at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (2lndx)


Second look at 1938 purges.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (mbhDw)

172 Until a blind student confessed that her seeing-eye dog had pooped and she couldn't find a trash can -- because she's blind!

She had no problem finding the poop.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (fVubI)

173 >>Half dyke thank you very much.


Half Full or Half Empty?

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (V5L4f)

174
150 From your name, I'm guessing you're a lesbian.

In my experience, lesbians usually have tools that range from good to excellent. Gay guys and straight women? Not so much.


Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:15 PM (9JSAy)


Half dyke thank you very much.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (dEQP3)



There is a Trump-supporting lesbian here? This blog is not only rich and luscious, it's inclusive!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (nQ10o)

175 I'm on a mission. Just had my second fraudulent charge on my credit card. I have the store and the time stamp plus the date. There is no listing for the store in the directory and the police dept says that there is no such place in Shelby Township. I need a Michigan moron to give me logistics. I'm gonna find this MF'er .

Posted by: Ben Had at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (5IGxd)

176 He pulled his pistol to hold them off.



He was sentenced to five decades in stir.



Frankly, instead of display of a weapon, he should have just
murdered a random passer-by instead. In coastal liberal states these
days, you can do that and you'll serve as little as six or seven years
before you're back out again.



Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (noWW6)

Fifty years for brandishing a weapon in self-defense? WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (SRKgf)

177 162 As an interesting idea...Couldn't a group of conservatives show up wearing all black and then...start messing with the other lefty protesters?

That's a high-visibility situation.

With the Marxist®media as their allies, it's not your battlefield, at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (Pd7Sl)

178 Can I be Batman? I've got the dead parents - still working on the peak physical condition and billionaire part.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 15, 2017 07:03 PM (OuELg)

I call Punisher.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 15, 2017 07:20 PM (0mRoj)



Is Deadpool still available? I can tell dirty jokes and I'm pretty ugly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (LTHVh)

179 *smacks garrett*


Too lazy to google, but from what I've heard, Sears is getting rid of craftsman and/or just not honoring tool replacements anymore. I forget the actual story.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (wmaTe)



Sears recently sold the Craftsman brand to Black & Decker for $900 million.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (dEQP3)

180 174 There is a Trump-supporting lesbian here? This blog is not only rich and luscious, it's inclusive!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (nQ10o)


I saw Rich, Luscious and Inclusive open for Earth, Wind and Fire at the Garden in '78.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (mbhDw)

181 dan rather needs a brain scan, or tested for dementia. where he at now?

Dan used to be a big man who's now a little man who still thinks he's a big man. It's probably hard to live with.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (qJhUV)

182 >>> The only thing that Lagerfeld loves more than himself is money. He's both a brilliant designer and a canny businessman. He wants the money.


As it should be, since it is the fashion BUSINESS. Idiots.

Good luck on the Great Courses watching!

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (hvf9s)

183 Sears recently sold the Craftsman brand to Black & Decker for $900 million.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (dEQP3)


Well, I was close.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (wmaTe)

184 There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly permitting these violent black-bloc progressives to terrorize law abiding citizens.

There's nothing secret about it. They generally refuse to arrest any rioters. This has been going on for some time, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (zc3Db)

185 This is also how you get Bane.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (usCMa)

186 It's not really Sears any more. Sears and all the Sears brands (Craftsman, Kenmore, etc.) are just labels used by K-Mart.

Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (9JSAy)

187 Half dyke thank you very much.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (dEQP3)

Wait a second...I thought you were queer.

This shit is getting complicated.

I think I'm just going to think of you as the maniac with the velociraptors.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (rF0hx)

188 There is a Trump-supporting lesbian here? This blog is not only rich and luscious, it's inclusive!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (nQ10o)


Big Tent, FTW!!!

- Ronaldus Maximus

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (Pd7Sl)

189 162 As an interesting idea...Couldn't a group of conservatives show up wearing all black and then...start messing with the other lefty protesters?

Make people proclaim allegiance Kim Jong-un or something along those lines...?

I wonder what would happen?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2017 07:21 PM (aZq03)
***
These guys are down for the struggle. They're hard-core commies, so getting them to praise Kim owuld be no big deal at all. Not that you'd get the chance. They'd not want you filming or recording anything. Hell, they don't even talk between cells. And they're a sorta closed group - their little units are called 'affinity groups,' and they do not trust anyone they don't know. Hard to crack.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (lutOX)

190 >> *smacks garrett*


So. A pessimist.

Posted by: garrett at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (V5L4f)

191 also ... Super.Penis.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (LTHVh)

192 @ 123

Are there red cities?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
________

* throat clearing sounds *

Posted by: Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and Colorado Springs at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (77i7V)

193 Someone please reassure me the Trumpenfuher will unleash his shock troops on the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the SS soon.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (6LwXe)

194 black and decker and craftsman combining forces, now with double the number of mediocre to shitty tools destroying respected brands every day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (wmaTe)

195 @Skip - Inspector General is now involved

Posted by: runner at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (c6/9Q)

196 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (wmaTe)
----------
It was about a $3 part, so I wasn't going to invest a ton of time into the exchange process, but what really pissed me off was finding the guy selling a tractor when he was supposed to be handling my return. I guess he figured out there's a bigger commission on a tractor sale.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)

197 There's nothing secret about it. They generally refuse to arrest any rioters. This has been going on for some time, now.
***
The interesting thing there is you don't see "conservative" governors calling out the NG with orders to shoot rioters when that happens.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (aZq03)

198 There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly permitting these violent black-bloc progressives to terrorize law abiding citizens.

I read Gates of Vienna, and I've mentioned before that a very similar phenomenon has been going on in Europe for years. When citizens hold rallies to protest their governments' immigration policies, often "black bloc" types show up to disrupt the rallies. The protesters are called "racists" and "fascists", and the disrupters call themselves "Anti-Fascists", or "Antifa" for short.

Usually they do things like grab signs and tear down banners, but there have been cases of assaults against protesters. The police stand by and let it happen.

Since the anti-immigration protesters oppose their governments' policies and the Antifa seem to be in agreement with those policies, it's hard not to come to the conclusion that they have the tacit approval of the government. If so, they could be considered as something like "off the books" enforcers.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (sdi6R)

199 "Sears recently sold the Craftsman brand to Black & Decker for $900 million."

I hadn't heard about that. B&D stuff has been crap for a long time too, though, so I don't expect anything to get better.

Posted by: The Editorial Board of National Geographic (Classic Edition) at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (9JSAy)

200 167 "Double tap. Center of mass. Acquire next target and repeat."

A conservative blogger went to a Black Lives Matter protest in Portland, OR, and made no secret of his affiliations or sympathies once there, and of course was subjected to a swarm attack.

He pulled his pistol to hold them off.

He was sentenced to five decades in stir.

Frankly, instead of display of a weapon, he should have just murdered a random passer-by instead. In coastal liberal states these days, you can do that and you'll serve as little as six or seven years before you're back out again.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (noWW6)



Jesus Christ. Fifty years for using a gun to defend yourself against a mob?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (nQ10o)

201 >>>Perhaps my point wasn't clear. Gangs shoot it out in the ghetto in vendettas against each other because the police don't bust gang bangers for doing it.Nothing to do with the populace, OK?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)

My point is the police does protect the populace from criminals, not the other way around. That's nonsense.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (MK9cc)

202 The three incidents were reported on Nov. 11, Nov. 12 and Nov. 15, 2016, in downtown Ann Arbor, near the University of Michigan.

If it's in proximity to a college, likelihood of it being a hoax nears 100%.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (oVJmc)

203 When inaction seems as immoral as -- or worse than -- illegal action, there is a moral case to be made for choosing the lesser of two evils: vigilantism over acting illegally ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (mt8X9)

204 The FBI released about 400 pages detailing an investigation into PDT's real estate business from the 1970s.

=======

Actually it was Fred Trumps business back then. Still no excuse for yet another leak.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (bUjWk)

205 I watched the San Jose Police point and laugh as Trump supporters were beaten. This goes on in most big cities with unionized police forces. They're just the mob enforcers of the oligarchic class.

If this continuing attempted coup gets hot, you good cops better figure out a way to self-identify. Otherwise, assumptions will have to be made.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 15, 2017 07:17 PM (S2VsH)


Might want to keep that in mind before saying "LOL, Bring it" to open violence...

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (OzJeO)

206 Another Fake Hate Crime Exposed

And, anyway ... all "hate crimes" are fake. There is no such thing as a hate crime. There is hate and there is crime but there are no hate crimes, just crimes. The lefties try and pervert everything so they took the notion of a "crime of passion" and twisted it so that thought can be criminalized.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (zc3Db)

207 It was about a $3 part, so I wasn't going to invest a ton of time into the exchange process, but what really pissed me off was finding the guy selling a tractor when he was supposed to be handling my return. I guess he figured out there's a bigger commission on a tractor sale.
Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)

He probably wasn't wrong.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (wmaTe)

208 What is a 'half dyke' ?


This invoke rule 27?

Posted by: Yo! at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (GwIKd)

209 They swarm when they attack, the black bloc do. Dozens, scores, on one. Standard streetfighting tactic. There's not likely to be much time - if any - to react.

Right. So you'd be an idiot to be on the street with them.

Be as the Roof Koreans...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (fVubI)

210 162 As an interesting idea...Couldn't a group of conservatives show up
wearing all black and then...start messing with the other lefty
protesters?



Never mind them. Target the reporters with disinformation to further damage what little credibility they still have.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (SRKgf)

211 Vigilance Committees may start springing up.

I doubt it, because like any KKK or Neo Nazi group, three out of the five members will be government agents or government snitches, and the remaining members will be mentally defective or senile.

Lone wolf avengers are more likely.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (iT57s)

212 You're all just a bunch of HATE CRIME DENIERS!!!

The science is settled ...

Posted by: #DrunkDonLemon at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (mt8X9)

213 187 Half dyke thank you very much.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (dEQP3)

Wait a second...I thought you were queer.

This shit is getting complicated.

I think I'm just going to think of you as the maniac with the velociraptors.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (rF0hx)



She's straight for The Rock.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (z/Ubi)

214 Thanks LizLem! I'm currently at the ADD oh but that or that or that or that stage of monkey hitting the button for the crack stage of adding stuff to my watch list.

I think I'm just going to think of you as the maniac with the velociraptors.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (rF0hx)



I'll allow it.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (dEQP3)

215 Isn't that the place that advertises 12 ton hydraulic floor jacks for 89 cents?



Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)



To be fair, they work fine, once!


With floor jacks, 'works once' isn't anywhere near as bad as 'works once and a half'.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (nd1zx)

216 The interesting thing there is you don't see "conservative" governors calling out the NG with orders to shoot rioters when that happens.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2017 07:25 PM (aZq03)


Yeah, it's a real shame. THe idea that lawlessness must be allowed to certain people - all leftists or protected species of the left - has pervaded through the entire system.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (zc3Db)

217 IIRC, cash strapped Sears sold off the Craftsman line and invalidated the lifetime guarantee of craftsman tools some time ago. I have Craftsman tools that are still pristine and functional after decades of use!

For the home mechanic, a lot of the Harbor Freight equipment is an excellent economical choice!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (UDXti)

218 Gangs shoot it out in the ghetto in vendettas
against each other because the police don't bust gang bangers for doing
it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)

Except in NYC with Stop and Frisk. They actually busted them BEFORE the shoot outs! And shockingly, the murder rate dropped precipitously.

But don't worry, De Blasio ended it, so we will soon return to the bad old days....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (rF0hx)

219 Half dyke thank you very much.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (dEQP3)


Your choice, but dual-classing means you advance slower for the same XP. Plus you hit the level cap.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (8nWyX)

220 I thought the police origin story was to prevent mobs/lone gunman from seeking justice themselves.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (usCMa)

221 My point is the police does protect the populace from criminals, not the other way around. That's nonsense.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (MK9cc)

=====

Not really. Mostly they just investigate after the fact. They can't be everywhere and protect everybody.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (bUjWk)

222 In the last thread I spoke of a National Divorce. While I heard some arguments as to why it won't work, I disagree. Yes, the blue cities in the sea of red would pose a problem. But those cities depend on food, water, and energy, which comes from the red areas. Cut them off, and I think you'll find them more agreeable. You could do all this without violence.

My proposal is to let the left/establishment have the Northeast, the Rust Belt Great Lakes Rim, and the West Coast.

Posted by: Mike at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (c056A)

223 A couple days ago, some Moron linked to Matt Bracken who wrote a realistic response to the US military planning for domestic operations in some small podunk town full of disgruntled rednecks.

Bracken's tale was very plausible, government finance system attacked, EBT is disabled and suddenly the madness of the inner city is unleashed as food and cash become scarce. As the violence starts to spread out to the suburbs and rural surrounding territories, the denizens of those regions begin a systematic vigilante system. It doesn't end well.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (7N6ox)

224 I read Gates of Vienna, and I've mentioned before that a very similar phenomenon has been going on in Europe for years. When citizens hold rallies to protest their governments' immigration policies, often "black bloc" types show up to disrupt the rallies. The protesters are called "racists" and "fascists", and the disrupters call themselves "Anti-Fascists", or "Antifa" for short.

Wouldn't they really be called "ants" for short?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (zc3Db)

225 She's straight for The Rock.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:27 PM (z/Ubi)

Yeah...so am I.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (rF0hx)

226 A conservative blogger went to a Black Lives Matter protest in Portland, OR, and made no secret of his affiliations or sympathies once there, and of course was subjected to a swarm attack.

He pulled his pistol to hold them off.

He was sentenced to five decades in stir.

Frankly, instead of display of a weapon, he should have just murdered a random passer-by instead. In coastal liberal states these days, you can do that and you'll serve as little as six or seven years before you're back out again.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (noWW6)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Strickland_(blogger)

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 15, 2017 07:30 PM (OzJeO)

227 Wouldn't they really be called "ants" for short?

The Ain'ts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:30 PM (LTHVh)

228 218 bad old days....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (rF0hx)

Not really related but DeBolshevik rammed through a tax on plastic bags and Cuomo overruled him. So there's that.

But crime and grime are out of control in Hymietown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:30 PM (mbhDw)

229 Your choice, but dual-classing means you advance slower for the same XP. Plus you hit the level cap.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (8nWyX)



Yeah but that's why I get the special edition with the DLC season pass and the XP boosts.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:30 PM (dEQP3)

230 218 Gangs shoot it out in the ghetto in vendettas
against each other because the police don't bust gang bangers for doing
it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)

Except in NYC with Stop and Frisk. They actually busted them BEFORE the shoot outs! And shockingly, the murder rate dropped precipitously.

But don't worry, De Blasio ended it, so we will soon return to the bad old days....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (rF0hx)

Yeah but when you go out at night for a slice, you have plenty of market competition in case you want some coke or weed. Who doesn't like to be constantly solicited for drugs?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (usCMa)

231 223 It doesn't end well.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (7N6ox)

For whom?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (mbhDw)

232 Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (nQ10o)

41 There is a very real question as to whether our police and other institutions are secretly letting people terrorize you
===================


Depends where you live. In a deep blue city in a blue state? Your chances of police passively standing by while you get the snot kicked out of you are higher than if you live in normal-people flyover territory.


The fights are in the blue cities. Don't live in a blue city. It's hazardous to your well-being.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2017 07:01 PM (bpfzP)


I live in a blue county in a red state. I can't wait to get back to small town America. But can't leave while dad is still here.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (nQ10o)

233 You all DO realize that there is an exception to Constitutional protections for hate speech in the First Amendment, right?

* Sent and Deleted from my Twitter Account *

Posted by: Chris Cuomo, an Obama Fellow in Constitutional Law at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (mt8X9)

234 My point is the police does protect the populace from criminals, not the other way around. That's nonsense.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (MK9cc)

No. Because if there were no police, and therefore no recourse to an effective criminal justice system, people take justice into their own hands, as in the Old West. They deal out street justice to whomever they think has committed a crime that pisses them off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (SRKgf)

235 I will tell you why Sears is going tits up....

Excessive cash register receipt tape costs. That's why.
Go buy something, ANYTHING at Sears, and you will get a register tape that is 14 feet long. Tell me that is cost effective.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (Sfs6o)

236 >>Not really. Mostly they just investigate after the fact. They can't be everywhere and protect everybody.

Easy way to find out. Remove all the police from NYC for a week. See what happens.

I know what I'm betting on. Bigly.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (/tuJf)

237 Trump rally 5pm Friday in Orlando. Rush said 62% of respondents to a Gallup survey believe the President is trying to keep his promises.

Posted by: kallisto at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (kD8Fh)

238 The FBI released about 400 pages detailing an investigation into PDT's real estate business from the 1970s.



FUCK. YOU. WAR.



h/t Weasel Zippers.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:16 PM (mbhDw)

1907's!? Ummmm....why?

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (Enq6K)

239 Easy way to find out. Remove all the police from NYC for a week. See what happens.

I remember that movie.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (LTHVh)

240 I am reading Days of Rage about the 70s. Link is

http://amzn.to/2ljsS9d

It's good and there are some glimmers of hope in it. One is that they seem to be following the same script, blacks riot and they claim to support them by rioting as well. Second is that you are primarily dealing with intellectuals. They had one guy in the Weather Underground that made bombs (after they destroyed the townhouse). He was the only guy that was mechanically minded. I think it's still a lot like that with the current group of radicals.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 07:33 PM (vP09u)

241 233 You all DO realize that there is an exception to Constitutional protections for hate speech in the First Amendment, right?

* Sent and Deleted from my Twitter Account *
Posted by: Chris Cuomo, an Obama Fellow in Constitutional Law at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (mt8X9)


Would love to ram his ugly face in a monitor playing the Nazi/KKK march in Skokie in 1977. Defended by the ACLU.

A large sack of flaming horse dung should be shoved down his throat.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:33 PM (mbhDw)

242 Not really. Mostly they just investigate after the fact.

Exactly. The police's job is to arrest people who have committed crimes or are in the process of committing crimes.

They can't be everywhere and protect everybody.

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (bUjWk)


They were never supposed to be. The police, contrary to their motto, are not around to protect. That isn't their job.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:34 PM (zc3Db)

243 >>That's weird. My homo toolbox has, you know, tools in it.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage

You can see in it?

Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 07:34 PM (/Nite)

244 Some brave right wing women could sign up and have sex with a few at night, and then go to the cops and claim she was raped.

5000 brave right wing women would be 15,000 Antifa soldiers in prison.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:34 PM (usCMa)

245 201 >>>Perhaps my point wasn't clear. Gangs shoot it out in the ghetto in vendettas against each other because the police don't bust gang bangers for doing it.Nothing to do with the populace, OK?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)

My point is the police does protect the populace from criminals, not the other way around. That's nonsense.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:26 PM (MK9cc)


NO.

The police show up after the crime and take reports as the surviving victims are being carted off in an ambulance.

They may catch the perpetrators later, but they do fuck all in preventing the original crime. If you live in Chitcago, they don't even do that. Their clearance rate for homicides is less than 25%. More than THREE OUT OF FOUR MURDERERS ARE NEVER IDENTIFIED. That is Blue City Justice!

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (iT57s)

246 238
1907's!? Ummmm....why?
Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (Enq6K)

To smear him. He and his dad were being investigated for tenant racial discrimination.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (mbhDw)

247 Jeff Sessions needs to make a statement...soon.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (6LwXe)

248 231
223 It doesn't end well.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (7N6ox)



For whom?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:31 PM (mbhDw)

I don't think it ended well for anybody. It definitely did not end with a rainbow shartin' unicorn.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (7N6ox)

249 When inaction seems as immoral as -- or worse than -- illegal action, there is a moral case to be made for choosing the lesser of two evils: vigilantism over acting illegally ...
Posted by: ShainS


Self defense isn't an illegal action.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (+wjl1)

250 I haven't bought Craftsman tools much in years, and if its something you will not need much Harbor Freight might be the way to go.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (Frvrc)

251 Rooters reports that Flynn's job has been offered to Vice Admiral Robert Harward, a guy who used to work for Gen. Mattis.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (97XyN)

252 My proposal is to let the left/establishment have the Northeast, the Rust Belt Great Lakes Rim, and the West Coast.
Posted by: Mike at February 15, 2017 07:29 PM (c056A)


Most of the land mass of the Great Lakes states is rural and conservative. Don't leave us behind--except for Minnesota and Illinois. They can go.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (nQ10o)

253 There's nothing secret about it. They generally refuse to arrest any rioters. This has been going on for some time, now.

They're ordered to NOT arrest rioters. Now, it's fair to question whether that's a legal order, and whether it's moral to obey it even if it is legal, but...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (fVubI)

254 I'd recommend this article by Mountain Guerilla:

http://bit.ly/2kUlhg5

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (vP09u)

255 >>They were never supposed to be. The police, contrary to their motto, are not around to protect. That isn't their job.

Then cities are wasting a metric fuckload of money sending them out to patrol on foot, in cars, in boats, in helicopters, etc.

Best just to have them all sit in the station house and eat donuts until something happens. Which it will. Directly.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (/tuJf)

256 240 Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 07:33 PM (vP09u)


I live only a few blocks from where the bomb leveled the townhouse. I believe it was meant for soldiers at a dance at Fort Dix.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (mbhDw)

257 217 IIRC, cash strapped Sears sold off the Craftsman line and invalidated the lifetime guarantee of craftsman tools some time ago. I have Craftsman tools that are still pristine and functional after decades of use!

For the home mechanic, a lot of the Harbor Freight equipment is an excellent economical choice!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (UDXti)


Craftsman's are excellent tools. The Snap-On/S&K snobs will sniff, but they are excellent.

Yes, some of the cheaper brands offer excellent value for the homeowner/shade-tree mech.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (Pd7Sl)

258 1907's!? Ummmm....why?

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (Enq6K)



To smear him. He and his dad were being investigated for tenant racial discrimination.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (mbhDw)

I just noticed my date type.
And the result of the investigation was......?

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:37 PM (Enq6K)

259 . I need a Michigan moron to give me logistics. I'm gonna find this MF'er .
Posted by: Ben Had at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (5IGxd)

Shubumi.

Posted by: Name Changed To Protect The Innocent Poster at February 15, 2017 07:37 PM (5P8ho)

260 247 Jeff Sessions needs to make a statement...soon.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (6LwXe)


Hopefully announcing indictments. Rhodes for starters and Yates. Then McCain.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:37 PM (mbhDw)

261 Sorry, shibumi.

Posted by: Name Changed To Protect The Innocent Poster at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (5P8ho)

262 Opsec, or I'd type what I really think ought to be done.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (v5iqM)

263 258 Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:37 PM (Enq6K)

I assume a nothing burger.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (mbhDw)

264 the reason a National Divorce won't work:

conservatives want to be left alone
progressives want conservatives to submit

It's like trying to divorce a stalker

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (Om16U)

265 Craftsman's are excellent tools. The Snap-On/SK snobs will sniff, but they are excellent.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (Pd7Sl)

I broke one of my Craftsman ratchets after only about 20 years. The original was great, and got heavy use. The replacement is shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (rF0hx)

266 Half dyke thank you very much.

Mother or father's side?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (fVubI)

267 If the cold civil war goes hot, I think the purple suburbs will be the front lines.

#That'sHowYouGetYugoslavia

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (sdi6R)

268 Yeah, um, when that order "don't arrest people committing felonies" comes down to the Sgt. level, I doubt anyone's getting fired for ignoring it.

Plus, aren't there directives against "retaliation" after those (theoretical) cops have booked a bunch of vandals and return to the station?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (6FqZa)

269 246 238
1907's!? Ummmm....why?
Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:32 PM (Enq6K)

To smear him. He and his dad were being investigated for tenant racial discrimination.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:35 PM (mbhDw)



Wasn't that already covered during the election? It was more than just the Trumps that were investigated. And wasn't there even some lawsuit filed that resulted in nothing on the Trumps?

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (z/Ubi)

270 Hopefully announcing indictments. Rhodes for starters and Yates. Then McCain.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:37 PM (mbhDw)

THIS!

Posted by: Batterup at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (mtGE/)

271 Has anyone proposed mass Hell's Angels escorts for Milo in his campus appearances? Maybe some Patriot Guard riders mixed in?


Just a thought. Visuals would be pretty neat.


And - there is no such thing as a hate crime, or hate speech.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (QDnY+)

272 265
Craftsman's are excellent tools. The Snap-On/SK snobs will sniff, but they are excellent.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (Pd7Sl)

I
broke one of my Craftsman ratchets after only about 20 years. The
original was great, and got heavy use. The replacement is shit.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (rF0hx)

They're now owned by Stanley....as of about a month ago.

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (Enq6K)

273 https://tinyurl.com/oehwcht

----------------------------------

Adm.James Lyons Center for Security Policy Defeat Jihad Summit4

watch some of this guys videos, this isn't a new thing , the "Deep State"

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 15, 2017 07:40 PM (y3aQB)

274 Yes, some of the cheaper brands offer excellent value for the homeowner/shade-tree mech.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (Pd7Sl)


My dad did some contract work for Stanley's security division and would occasionally send tools, measuring tapes, stuff like that. That is some indestructible stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2017 07:40 PM (8nWyX)

275 This - all of this - just ain't likely to end well or soon. Political, cultural, cultural, and economic power is largely concentrated in urban areas, which are infested with people who despise the likes of Blue Staters, and certainly mean them active harm, to one degree or another.

Antifa/Black Bloc/BLM are the hammer; passive acquiescence of the authorities is the anvil.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:40 PM (lutOX)

276 "Has anyone proposed mass Hell's Angels escorts for Milo in his campus appearances? "

Didn't work too well for us

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at February 15, 2017 07:40 PM (SIY7D)

277 271 Has anyone proposed mass Hell's Angels escorts for Milo in his campus appearances? Maybe some Patriot Guard riders mixed in?


Just a thought. Visuals would be pretty neat.


And - there is no such thing as a hate crime, or hate speech.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (QDnY+)



Milo claims that his bodyguards are retired Navy SEALS.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:40 PM (z/Ubi)

278 UC Berkeley, and perhaps City of Berkeley, authorities need to vigorously move forward with their own investigations. Otherwise questions will linger about how is that more than 100 organized attackers can invade the campus without being called to account.

Obtuseness is never pretty, even in a lawyer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (4YGWz)

279
25% clearance rate?

Not even close. Try less than 4%


http://heyjackass.com/

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (vBER8)

280 Craftsman is sexist. I'm better at crafts than any man.

Posted by: Martha Stewart at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (+wjl1)

281 except for Minnesota and Illinois. They can go.

MN is red; Hillary beat Trump by 40k, but McMuffin stole 53k. And Gary got 112k to Stein's 37k.

We're not liberal, we just don't know how to vote.

Posted by: mikeski at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (TXZ1v)

282 Stanley. They want to help you do things, right.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (Sfs6o)

283 Then cities are wasting a metric fuckload of money sending them out to patrol on foot, in cars, in boats, in helicopters, etc.

The police are under no obligation to make foot patrols. As to them riding around in boats and helicopters and trying to spy on every American because they suck at actually arresting criminals ... I'd prefer they not. We run into the same shit with the federal government basically declaring that all cash transactions are suspicious ... because criminals work in cash. It's bullshit and the idea that they are doing that to "protect me" is not even laughable.

Best just to have them all sit in the station house and eat donuts until something happens. Which it will. Directly.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:36 PM (/tuJf)


They still have the duty to arrest criminals who are on the loose and to carry on investigations, which puts a good amount of them on the streets.

But protecting the public is not a requirement of any police force. The SCOTUS already decided on this. And this is why it is un-Constitutional and asinine for places to deny citizens their lawful right to arm themselves, and even when they do many states deny citizens the right to protect themselves (places with the law that you must flee if you think you mi8ght be able to) even while the police are under no obligation to actually protect anyone.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (zc3Db)

284 He was sentenced to five decades in stir.

Frankly, instead of display of a weapon, he should have just murdered a random passer-by instead. In coastal liberal states these days, you can do that and you'll serve as little as six or seven years before you're back out again.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:22 PM (noWW6)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Strickland_(blogger)
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 15, 2017 07:30 PM (OzJeO)



I was unaware that the sentencing in May, 2017 had already taken place. Wow ace is letting everyone use that time machine he totally doesn't have.


Also per ORC 161.625, the maximum sentence for a Class C felony is 5 years. So the only way he could get 50 years is if it was 5 years per conviction running consecutive and not concurrent.

Oh and here's the Oregon sentencing grid.

http://www.oregon.gov/cjc/about/Documents/guidelinesgrid.pdf

So claiming he got 50 years is just not accurate at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (dEQP3)

285 LI story on Susan Collins not voting for EPA nominee.
She said "about the potential for weakening a federal agency......"

That sister is exactly the f'in point.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (Frvrc)

286 "The police show up after the crime and take reports as the surviving victims are being carted off in an ambulance."

The phrase I've heard here, with regard to how it works in Croakland, CA, where the police aren't on good terms with their civilian superiors, is "janitorial policing".

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (noWW6)

287 I broke one of my Craftsman ratchets after only about 20 years. The original was great, and got heavy use. The replacement is shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (rF0hx)


I should probably have qualified that. Their recent crop (last 10 years) have gone down somewhat. I noticed the same thing with their more recent ratchets. Rougher than they used to be.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (Pd7Sl)

288 Is the Puffy Scamper around?
I just heard about a local news story in that area concerning a friend's relative - just wondering if it's big news out there...

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 07:43 PM (rUhXo)

289 I'm on a mission. Just had my second fraudulent charge on my credit card. I have the store and the time stamp plus the date. There is no listing for the store in the directory and the police dept says that there is no such place in Shelby Township. I need a Michigan moron to give me logistics. I'm gonna find this MF'er .
---
What do you need Ben Had?

Shelby Township is about 15 minutes from me.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 15, 2017 07:43 PM (J5mC3)

290 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:38 PM (rF0hx)

They're now owned by Stanley....as of about a month ago.

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (Enq6K)
********************

I hope they upgrade. I bought my last Craftsman tool from Sears in '02 it was crap and their service was crap.

Posted by: gNewt at February 15, 2017 07:43 PM (ujwZe)

291 215 Isn't that the place that advertises 12 ton hydraulic floor jacks for 89 cents?



Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:10 PM (Sfs6o)



To be fair, they work fine, once!

With floor jacks, 'works once' isn't anywhere near as bad as 'works once and a half'.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 15, 2017 07:28 PM (nd1zx)

Jackstands.

Cribbing.

Something, anything.

And for your children's sake, chock the wheels!

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:43 PM (iT57s)

292 267 If the cold civil war goes hot, I think the purple suburbs will be the front lines.

#That'sHowYouGetYugoslavia
Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (sdi6R)

The Facebook and Twitter timelines would be epic.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 07:43 PM (usCMa)

293 Guy on Dobb's just flat out said Obama is the one behind all of this. Talking about Obama's new website showing OFA and Obama foundation at the bottom of their website.

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:44 PM (Enq6K)

294 As for the fake hate crimes thing - I think of it as Socialist Realist performance art - a strictly political depiction of the 'reality' required by their ideology.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 07:44 PM (lutOX)

295 Police protect criminals from the public. Good thing for the criminals that so far they've restricted their crimes to places that voted Democrat by margins that would embarrass Kim Jong-un.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (J8/9G)

296 "Also per ORC 161.625, the maximum sentence for a Class C felony is 5 years. So the only way he could get 50 years is if it was 5 years per conviction running consecutive and not concurrent."

Let me see if I can find the original cite. It was quite recently.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (noWW6)

297 Agitprop.
It's a real thing.

Posted by: navybrat at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (w7KSn)

298 They may catch the perpetrators later, but they do fuck all in preventing the original crime. If you live in Chitcago, they don't even do that. Their clearance rate for homicides is less than 25%. More than THREE OUT OF FOUR MURDERERS ARE NEVER IDENTIFIED. That is Blue City Justice!

When did they get it the clearance rate that high? In 2016 it was 18.9%, as per HeyJackass.com.

(Most of that problem isn't the police, it's the tragic epidemic of periodic blindness and deafness in the ghettos.)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (fVubI)

299 Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (Pd7Sl)

Nah...I get it. They were excellent tools, and I have a bunch of them. And when they went on sale they were incredible bargains.

It's too bad they didn't take care of the brand....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 07:46 PM (rF0hx)

300
They're now owned by Stanley....as of about a month ago.
Posted by: Tami
----------------

Really? I didn't know that.
I noticed the quality of Dewalt stuff go downhill shortly after I learned that Stanley owned them.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 07:46 PM (rUhXo)

301 Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at February 15, 2017 07:41 PM (vBER

Go back to the 2016 full year stats.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:47 PM (iT57s)

302 These are dark times indeed. Someone needs to check google trends for an uptick in "how to make Walking Dead-like weapons"

Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at February 15, 2017 07:47 PM (TixTl)

303 Call your congresscritters & get them to sign on to H.R. 38, The Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.

Move the ball.

Posted by: Batterup at February 15, 2017 07:47 PM (mtGE/)

304 You can see in it?
Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 07:34 PM (/Nite)



Duh, what do you think the awesome stepstool of awesomeness is for?

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (dEQP3)

305 Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 07:46 PM (rUhXo)

DeWalt? Thanks for the warning.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (iT57s)

306 Guys the Trump FBI leak is about RASSIS housing discrimination.

Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (q177U)

307 The tool companies WANT you to go to Harbor Freight. All their crap that you'd buy is coming out of China anyway, and then they can focus on their $8000 socket set guys.

(Was shopping for a rolling chest recently and saw Snap-on has a Chinese line now. Blue something iirc.)

(And f*ck Sears, but be sure to pick up one of the diamond screwdrivers they've got before they finally fold. Great Chinese screwdrivers. Maybe the best tool they've made in a decade or more.)

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (/f1mm)

308 So, I was doing my own version of Shelvey today and had Rush on for his second two hours and listened to the first hour of Hannity while I was working.

Rush is on a local station that is somewhat conservative. Hannity is on Salem, which I consider more conservative.

Well, every local news break on Rush, they read this story and said it proved to be false. In this case. However, they did note that there have been other hate crimes against Muslims that were confirmed.

Strangely enough, this bit of info (I heard it four times I think) is not on their web coverage of the story.



Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (J5mC3)

309 295 Police protect criminals from the public.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (J8/9G)


That's right. Otherwise law-abiding citizens in many jurisdictions would not have to worry about being prosecuted for self-defense, or for carrying the necessary tools.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

310 Really? I didn't know that.

I noticed the quality of Dewalt stuff go downhill shortly after I learned that Stanley owned them.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 07:46 PM (rUhXo)

Yeah. My husband is a legal consultant and he worked on that sale.

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 07:49 PM (Enq6K)

311 Go back to the 2016 full year stats.

Posted by: rd at February 15, 2017 07:47 PM (iT57s)



Ahhh. I knew that.

Second City Cop is a good read. I remember someone stating as much one day.
My bad.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at February 15, 2017 07:49 PM (vBER8)

312 Obama's new website showing OFA

I'm not the only one who reads that acronym as "ofay" and figures it was Obama's intention, am I?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 07:49 PM (fVubI)

313 "Guy on Dobb's just flat out said Obama is the one behind all of this. Talking about Obama's new website showing OFA and Obama foundation at the bottom of their website."

It would make sense because the "investigations" started when Obama was still in office.

Someone had to initiate these with something akin to claimed probable cause. So there should be a paper trail leading to specific individuals.

Who had no need to worry about what they were doing because Hillary was sure to win.

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at February 15, 2017 07:50 PM (SIY7D)

314
Nah...I get it. They were excellent tools, and I have a bunch of them. And when they went on sale they were incredible bargains.

It's too bad they didn't take care of the brand....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
------------

There is a Sears outlet store a few miles away - some days, you can score really nice tools for 10 cents on the dollar. Definitely worth the price of admission.
You just have to be parient.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 07:50 PM (rUhXo)

315 I gotta say - a lot of people here are talking about smashing faces and burning things in the street and thug gangs jumping all over them and windows being blown out and shoot-outs at the OK Corral.


I live in two towns, one larger and slightly urban, one small and a little bit upscale. In both places, I can go where I want, do what I want, talk to who I want, drive where I want - and people are very nice. I have no problems whatsoever.


I think some of this drama is real, but a large part of it is bloggers (don't ban me Ace) and people on Twitter. Some of this is serious. A lot of this is whipped-up hysteria.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2017 07:50 PM (bpfzP)

316 "Guy on Dobb's just flat out said Obama is the one behind all of this. Talking about Obama's new website showing OFA and Obama foundation at the bottom of their website."
--
Rush DEFINITELY said Obama was behind this today.

Hannity might have said it as well.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 15, 2017 07:51 PM (J5mC3)

317
Wasn't that already covered during the election? It was more than just the Trumps that were investigated. And wasn't there even some lawsuit filed that resulted in nothing on the Trumps?
Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2017 07:39 PM (z/Ubi)


It was during the time when fair housing laws were new and just about every land lord was being hit with suits

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 15, 2017 07:51 PM (lKyWE)

318

Fake News — CNN’s Marc Lamont Hill: Conservatives Start Violent Campus Riots, Too

http://tinyurl.com/zk2vwd3

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2017 07:51 PM (IqV8l)

319 Let me see if I can find the original cite. It was quite recently.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 07:45 PM (noWW6)


He was convicted on February 10, 2017 of 10 counts of unlawful use of a firearm, 10 counts of menacing and a charge of disorderly conduct.

He hasn't been sentenced to anything yet.

People appear to be multiplying the maximum sentence of 5 years for a Class C felony by 10 counts and coming up with 50 years sentence and that has not happened as of yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:52 PM (dEQP3)

320 >>>I think some of this drama is real, but a large part of it is bloggers (don't ban me Ace) and people on Twitter. Some of this is serious. A lot of this is whipped-up hysteria.

I think most people are just speculating what MIGHT happen.

Posted by: Max Power at February 15, 2017 07:52 PM (q177U)

321 Lay down a base of fire and withdraw.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC So. Ill Nazi at February 15, 2017 07:19 PM (Pd7Sl)



https://youtu.be/UnZQ_Gv7MzA

Posted by: Country Singer at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (GUBah)

322 >>>NO.

The police show up after the crime and take reports as the surviving victims are being carted off in an ambulance.

The question wasn't about effectiveness, it was about purpose.

Police exist:
A) to protect the populace from criminals, or
B) to protect criminals from the populace

Answer is A. B is shallow machismo.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (GN0/0)

323 180 174 There is a Trump-supporting lesbian here? This blog is not only rich and luscious, it's inclusive!
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:23 PM (nQ10o)


I saw Rich, Luscious and Inclusive open for Earth, Wind and Fire at the Garden in '78.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 07:24 PM (mbhDw)


Well goodness gracious, so did I! I can't remember what they played because I was high as a kite.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (nQ10o)

324 So claiming he got 50 years is just not accurate at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:42 PM (dEQP3)

++++

Come on, go easy. He probably read a newspaper report that Strickland faced up to 50 years at sentencing and misinterpreted it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (R+30W)

325 >>The police are under no obligation to make foot patrols. As to them riding around in boats and helicopters and trying to spy on every American because they suck at actually arresting criminals ... I'd prefer they not. We run into the same shit with the federal government basically declaring that all cash transactions are suspicious ... because criminals work in cash. It's bullshit and the idea that they are doing that to "protect me" is not even laughable.

Well your first statement is just factually wrong. Police officers are indeed compelled to do foot patrols. They aren't just out there going on a stroll, they are doing their patrol. It's their job and if they don't do it they lose their job. That's called required.

As the rest, have you ever actually lived in a big city? Because I have for many years. The cops aren't just riding around randomly spying on people, they are there to help keep shit from breaking out. And you better believe that everyone knows it and it does in fact make many people think twice before going off.

In fact, that is the entire point of patrols. When I was living in San Juan, the cops would ride around with their lights flashing for the specific reason of letting everyone know they were there. It works.

And if you don't believe it watch what happens when there is a blackout in a big city or during a crisis when cops are busy handling an emergency. Break ins, looting, muggings, assaults and the rest of the bag.

There are good cops and bad cops. There are also shitty politicians who prohibit cops from doing their jobs. But cops who turn out in riot gear and actually do their jobs are indeed protecting citizens and property regardless of what SCOTUS says.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (/tuJf)

326 I would highly recommend that we stop talking about leaving anything to these people. Do you truly want to leave them a beach-head where they can regroup? Why shouldn't we hound them in the same manner? If they want to cause people to lose their jobs and shut down small businesses, well maybe it's time they get a dose of their own medicine. Don't give them an inch of territory.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 07:54 PM (uz/Pv)

327 Speaking of tools, I have a lot of machinist's measuring tools, calipers and micrometers and so forth. I recently bought a used set of pin gages on eBay and found a couple missing when the set arrived. So I ordered replacements and decided to refinish the original wood box the set was in. The whole process of restoring the set was oddly satisfying.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:54 PM (Sfs6o)

328 Maybe Stanley's using their acquisitions as their down-market lines? The stuff my dad sent me seems solid as hell.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2017 07:55 PM (8nWyX)

329 very OT:

So, I tend to get pinched nerves in my neck.

Well, I've been using Biofreeze and generic Biofreeze for years.

It's not doing it anymore. So I did some research, and decided to try Blue Emu Oil

OMG. Great stuff. I use dry heat on my neck for a while, and then put it on. Got rid of it really quickly.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 15, 2017 07:55 PM (J5mC3)

330 >>>A lot of this is whipped-up hysteria.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:55 PM (GN0/0)

331 There's a SCOTUS decision that says the police don't have a duty to protect you but it's in the context of someone wanting money damages because the police didn't show up when an irate husband beat up his wife.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:56 PM (SIY7D)

332 "A lot of this is whipped-up hysteria."

Yep. AOSHQ management encourages it

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 15, 2017 07:57 PM (SIY7D)

333
Come on, go easy. He probably read a newspaper report that Strickland faced up to 50 years at sentencing and misinterpreted it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (R+30W)



This is me going easy. There's a difference in kind between faces 50 years at time sentencing and was sentenced to 50 years in jail.

By the by, this is why prosecutors go with 100+ count indictments so that they can say "Hey, look, if the judge runs them consecutive not concurrent, you're looking at 2,376 years in jail."

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:57 PM (dEQP3)

334 Good tweet by J Burton:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257398/#respond

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 07:57 PM (sdi6R)

335 Since noted gun-nuts Weasel and (I think) Grump are here, should report that I indeed did buy the CZ-83 (in .380) this week. Ought to be fun to play with. Looks like CZ even has new-stock parts for them (other sources including Numrich look mostly out of stock) - which is nice with out of production platforms. I might pick CZ geeks' brains and see if I should by a few high-probability replacement candidate parts, just to have (which I've done for Garands).


Grump, howz that BM-59 shoot?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (QDnY+)

336 Police exist:
A) to protect the populace from criminals, or
B) to protect criminals from the populace

Answer is A. B is shallow machismo.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (GN0/0)

actually the answer is
C. To arrest criminals after they commit a crime

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Om16U)

337 Nobody appreciated my pin gage story. Y'all suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

338 Grump, howz that BM-59 shoot?

Like a sweet Italian lass.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 15, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)

339 All this talk about dykes and their toolboxes makes me think of that Mad
Men episode where Betty Draper remarked about her daughter, "She's
taken to your tools like a little lesbian."

Coming from the well mannered Betty, it was jarring and funny at the same time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 07:59 PM (R+30W)

340 >>Like a sweet Italian lass.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

I missed the "l" the first time I read that. Seemed to still make sense.

Posted by: Aviator at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (/Nite)

341 >>>actually the answer is
C. To arrest criminals after they commit a crime
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Om16U)

Which protects the populace from criminals. Thank you.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (MK9cc)

342 @256,

Yes the bomb was meant to kill soldiers and their dates at the dance. The guy that made that bomb wasn't into science. He'd been show one way to make a bomb and had no idea how to make a switch to let them test the circuit. In short, he was clueless and had no idea of what he was doing. And the bomb was packed with construction nails. All they found of the bomb maker was a large chunk of skin. Ayer's girlfriend was in pieces and covered with the nails.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (uz/Pv)

343 319
People appear to be multiplying the maximum sentence of 5 years for a Class C felony by 10 counts and coming up with 50 years sentence and that has not happened as of yet.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:52 PM (dEQP3)


There you go again with your facts 'n shit.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (sdi6R)

344 Which protects the populace from criminals. Thank you.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (MK9cc)

not necessarily the victims of the crime though

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (Om16U)

345 Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
---------
Congrats! I like to keep a spare replacememt spring set handy.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (Sfs6o)

346 "He probably read a newspaper report that Strickland faced up to 50 years at sentencing and misinterpreted it."

No, it was another dextrosphere blogger, and that individual at that time was claiming the Strickland sentence had been pronounced already, and it was the full fifty.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (noWW6)

347 By the by, this is why prosecutors go with 100+ count indictments so that they can say "Hey, look, if the judge runs them consecutive not concurrent, you're looking at 2,376 years in jail."

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 07:57 PM (dEQP3)

++++

Oh, I know. Trump would call it the art of the deal. If your opening is 2376 years, you're in a better negotiating position than if you're starting at 11 years.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (R+30W)

348 Police exist:
A) to protect the populace from criminals, or
B) to protect criminals from the populace

Answer is A. B is shallow machismo.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (GN0/0)


No one is going around killing criminals. As of the moment. But the courts have held that the police have only a general duty to protect the populace. So if there is enough unchecked criminality and people have the means of defending themselves against it they aren't going to read Miranda rights before taking action.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (J8/9G)

349
Nobody appreciated my pin gage story. Y'all suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

It just made me want that stuff. I want a great micrometer and caliper.

For no earthly reason.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)

350 >>actually the answer is
C. To arrest criminals after they commit a crime

Is the only purpose of having the best military in the world to attack people after we've been attacked or, as we have almost universally agreed forever, to deter bad actors from attacking us in the first place?

Same principle.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 08:03 PM (/tuJf)

351 No, it was another dextrosphere blogger, and that individual at that time was claiming the Strickland sentence had been pronounced already, and it was the full fifty.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (noWW6)



For the record, I'm not meaning to snipe at you, this is just one of those things where I get all arrrggghh that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.

Mind you, Oregon is idiotic enough that I wouldn't be wholly shocked if the judge said screw you gun nut, you're going away for 50 years.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 08:03 PM (dEQP3)

352 I literally don't know what the hell Oreilly is babling about with Woodward

Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2017 08:03 PM (KLFPD)

353 318
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2017 07:51 PM (IqV8l)


"Jews Start Fire In Auschwitz. Film at 11."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:04 PM (mbhDw)

354 If you've got to buy Harbor Freight, at least buy whatever their "best" offering is in any given product line.

Their Heavy Duty sockets and wrenches, while not up to the workload demands of a professional mechanic, should be more than good enough for the casual home tinkerer.

The Husky line, sold at Lowe's, is pretty good import stuff.

Power tools? Buy American, buy Milwaukee, if you can. Or, buy Hitachi. Hell, for pneumatic nail guns, buy ONLY Hitachi.

For me, the bargains at Harbor Freight are more along the lines of cheap air-gun hoses, connectors, and low stress tools such as oil-filter wrenches and the like.

I did have to buy a no-name imitation of a Fein-Tool, so as to cut-out termite damaged studs last year. The tool works okay, but the cheap-ass blades they sell there for it won't last for but about two cuts through a 2"x4".

They're an expedient substitute, when you're on a tight budget.

But if you find you need to use that tool with any regularity? Upgrade the damn thing to something truly professional grade. Soon as you can, too.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2017 08:04 PM (v5iqM)

355 352
I literally don't know what the hell Oreilly is babling about with Woodward

Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2017 08:03 PM (KLFPD)

I turned Kennedy off....she had Johan Goldberg on ranting and raving.

Posted by: Tami at February 15, 2017 08:04 PM (Enq6K)

356 It just made me want that stuff. I want a great micrometer and caliper.

For no earthly reason.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)



Because they're awesome is a perfectly cromulent reason.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (dEQP3)

357 349
Nobody appreciated my pin gage story. Y'all suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

It just made me want that stuff. I want a great micrometer and caliper.

For no earthly reason.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)


My uncle escaped Germany in '39 by the skin of his teeth. Tool and die maker and worked on the Manhattan Project with Fermi. I have a few of his tools as well as a piece of carbon from the first reactor at Stagg Field.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)

358 350 you would think so, but apparently cops are under no obligation to rescue crime victims per se, that is only incidental to their mission of catching criminals.
at least according to the courts

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (Om16U)

359 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)
----------
I have one word for you - Brown and Sharpe. Mitotoyo is super nice but pricey. Vintage Starrett is good, but I think the others are probably superior. There is something very cool about old tools.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)

360 359 Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)


No tool like an old tool?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:06 PM (mbhDw)

361 Have Kennedy on, not for long though its bedtime very soon.
Other thing Dennis Prager was saying yesterday (along time Californian) that California has drought restrictions indefinitely because of Global climate change is here and is never going to go away so droughts will be ongoing.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 08:07 PM (Frvrc)

362 356. Concur. Good tools are good things, and some are almost works of art.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 08:07 PM (0jThR)

363 Every single state, even the reddest of the red Oklahoma, has a large population of liberals. Break that up and you give the rest of the state a chance to override them. We have to use their development laws to restrict development in the cities. They want to have high density housing in the cities. Force them to keep it low density and make them develop outside the city. Cut funding to the cities every way you can. There are a lot of lawyers out there and we need to hire good ones and hack away at this. Makes a lot more sense than a shooting war.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 15, 2017 08:07 PM (uz/Pv)

364 Nobody appreciated my pin gage story. Y'all suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)


Touchy aren't we!
I was about to comment that refinishing an older wooden container is a very rewarding endeavor. Not at all like polishing the Harbor Freight plastic wrapping.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 08:07 PM (UDXti)

365 More Hate Crime news:


Detroit Red Wing's Gustav Nyquist has been suspended for six games for high-sticking Minnesota's Jared Spurgeon.


Filthy Skandi.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2017 08:08 PM (bpfzP)

366 344 Which protects the populace from criminals. Thank you.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 08:00 PM (MK9cc)

not necessarily the victims of the crime though
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 08:01 PM (Om16U)

And the judical tyrants and other law breakers who destroy lives daily. Honestly, I cannot believe the people have shown as much restraint that they have.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 15, 2017 08:08 PM (usCMa)

367 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)
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That is cool as shit. I think about some of these tools (and the martial arms in my collection) and wonder where they've been.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:08 PM (Sfs6o)

368 Yikes, JJ. My uncle worked with the Fermi group, on the Manhattan project. Send me an email using your cob-fu, we can discuss.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 08:08 PM (QDnY+)

369 I have a few tools from my grandfather and father-in-law ( both were tool collecting hounds)

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 08:09 PM (Frvrc)

370 358 350 you would think so, but apparently cops are under no obligation to rescue crime victims per se, that is only incidental to their mission of catching criminals.
at least according to the courts

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (Om16U)

++++

It's the kind of thing that can get a cop jammed up with his chain of command for dereliction of duty, if that's the way that the brass wants to roll. But, as far as going into court and getting cash money from the city, no, you can't say that they had that kind of binding obligation.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 08:09 PM (R+30W)

371 My last experience with the local police was calling them to report a burglary at my home.
Their response was to run a background check on me. They told me flat out that I would never see my stolen property again.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 08:09 PM (rUhXo)

372 Touchy aren't we!
---------
I'm not touchy! I'm not touchy!!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:09 PM (Sfs6o)

373 367 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)
-------
That is cool as shit. I think about some of these tools (and the martial arms in my collection) and wonder where they've been.
Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:08 PM (Sfs6o)


He was a character. After the war he did a lot of research work via U of Chicago and was exposed to a lot of radioactive material. Died in 1982 at 73 from stomach cancer. I miss Herr Fisher dearly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (mbhDw)

374 367. My favorite firearms are old East Bloc stuff. That stuff isn't pretty, except for my CZ52's, but, man, it's good.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (0jThR)

375 Nobody appreciated my pin gage story. Y'all suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)
************************

Nothing said is no indication it was not appreciated.

Posted by: gNewt at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (ujwZe)

376 My uncle escaped Germany in '39 by the skin of his
teeth. Tool and die maker and worked on the Manhattan Project with
Fermi. I have a few of his tools as well as a piece of carbon from the
first reactor at Stagg Field.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 15, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)
=========================

That's amazing.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (bpfzP)

377 Weasel, I was reacting to your tool story, just silently.


Like, wanting them for myself.


So, feel free to send them to me, with or without the box.


Not even sure what I'd do with them - though the micrometers would probably find a use on the reloading bench.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (QDnY+)

378 I did Weasel, just didn't comment.

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 08:11 PM (Frvrc)

379 Hey, call me an optimist, but I'm finding one big silver lining to all this 'overthrow the state' blather from the left.

After decades of yak about how they were the ones with morals and principles and a undying love for democracy that I've had to listen too, guess who starts angling for a coup as soon as the first finger gets hammered on their death-grip on power?

Just a bunch of power-mad authoritarians, just like we've known all along.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 15, 2017 08:11 PM (nd1zx)

380 It just made me want that stuff. I want a great micrometer and caliper.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)


I got mine from electronics and maker-type vendor Adafruit.com, and it owns.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/1724

Posted by: hogmartin at February 15, 2017 08:11 PM (8nWyX)

381 "This is how you get vigilantism."

Not sure that doing nothing and hoping that the other guys stop doing mean stuff really counts as "vigilantism".

Posted by: FaCubeItches at February 15, 2017 08:11 PM (rznWS)

382 I also have a vintage Disston crosscut saw that a friend of mine tuned and sharpened, that's an art in itself.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:11 PM (Sfs6o)

383 I've brought this up before, but back in the bad old days of lynchings, I can't help wondering how many lynchees were guilty as hell and got exactly what they deserved?

We've been told for decades that lynchings were motivated solely by racism and the victims were innocent and pure as the driven snow.

But an uncomfortable truth is that some lynchees were white. That tends to get swept under the rug, because it doesn't serve the Narrative.

Granted, lynching is not optimal in a society that purports to be under the Rule of Law. But I have to figure that in small towns where everyone knew each other's business, that if So-and-So was known to have an unhealthy interest in children, and a child got raped, well... Shit happens.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

384 Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2017 08:04 PM (v5iqM)

I've been very pleased with my PasLode nailguns for fencing work in remote areas, but they do eat up the gas cartridges!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (UDXti)

385 Oreilly is going to throat punch Geraldo.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (KLFPD)

386 I was picturing a Walnut box with brass inlay, lacquered in the Japanese style with 25 coats

Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (Frvrc)

387 Well, OK. You guys don't suck.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:13 PM (Sfs6o)

388 I want a great micrometer and caliper.

For no earthly reason.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rF0hx)

I have a lovely caliper.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 15, 2017 08:13 PM (tHwdc)

389 Palpatine I suffer under the idiotic CA handgun roster. So one reason I jumped on the CZ-83 - who knows when it will drop off? (probably January '1


Yesterday got an email from Classic. Very nice looking .380 Berettas (85s). Sorry. No can have.


As for east-bloc stuff, I'd like a nice russki Makarov - but it has to be C ampersand R to have it here.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 08:13 PM (QDnY+)

390 Nood Maddow

Posted by: Flyboy at February 15, 2017 08:13 PM (bUjWk)

391 386. Black walnut. Three coats of linseed oil, spit coat of orange or button shellac, black wax and done.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 15, 2017 08:14 PM (0jThR)

392 >>you would think so, but apparently cops are under no obligation to rescue crime victims per se, that is only incidental to their mission of catching criminals.
at least according to the courts

If you're referring to the SCOTUS ruling, as was noted above that was a very narrow ruling of a person who was seeking damages because of process, not the overall duty. The courts are merely limiting the liability of an individual cop or police department to be held liable for how they perform their job.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2017 08:15 PM (/tuJf)

393 Posted by: Skip at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (Frvrc)
----------
Well that's a stretch! It's some sort of medium hardwood and I just sanded the gouges out of it and put a few coats of Polyurethane on it. And replace the latches which turned out to be the most difficult part of the project, sourcing-wise.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:16 PM (Sfs6o)

394 383 I've brought this up before, but back in the bad old days of lynchings, I can't help wondering how many lynchees were guilty as hell and got exactly what they deserved?

We've been told for decades that lynchings were motivated solely by racism and the victims were innocent and pure as the driven snow.

But an uncomfortable truth is that some lynchees were white. That tends to get swept under the rug, because it doesn't serve the Narrative.

Granted, lynching is not optimal in a society that purports to be under the Rule of Law. But I have to figure that in small towns where everyone knew each other's business, that if So-and-So was known to have an unhealthy interest in children, and a child got raped, well... Shit happens.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2017 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

++++

I'm sure you're right. But, there were also those who were lynched for just being trouble. As in people agitating for change.

And, there must of been those who were lynched for committing absolutely horrible crimes, of which they were completely innocent. Who had no chance to face their accusers and all that good stuff.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 15, 2017 08:16 PM (R+30W)

395 Jim,
If/when I by at Harbor Freight, i do so with the understanding that anything over one job is bonus time.
I $13 angle grinder should last this one job, and anything more than that is bonus time!

I think Husky tools I'd Home Depot, no?
Kobalt would be Lowe's.
Husky levels (at one time, anyway) we're made in Israel & available at HD - so I bought a few some years ago, just to give away.

Posted by: Chi at February 15, 2017 08:16 PM (rUhXo)

396 Not even sure what I'd do with them - though the micrometers would probably find a use on the reloading bench.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 15, 2017 08:10 PM (QDnY+)
------------
That's exactly how it started but it sort of turned into its own little collection.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:18 PM (Sfs6o)

397
Oreilly is going to throat punch Geraldo.
Posted by: Kreplach


Unfortunately, he did not.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 15, 2017 08:18 PM (IqV8l)

398 Listened to Lou Dobbs earlier and am thoroughly depressed. Administration needs to do something to take back control.

Posted by: IC at February 15, 2017 08:19 PM (wLzf4)

399 >>> Nood Maddow

Does she really have a penis?

Posted by: fluffy at February 15, 2017 08:19 PM (jw2Xw)

400 I've brought this up before, but back in the bad old days of lynchings, I can't help wondering how many lynchees were guilty as hell and got exactly what they deserved?

Hell, something like every tenth old Western show was about the sheriff stepping in to prevent a lynching. Some of them were even set up so you knew the guy who was going to be lynched was guilty, but the hero was on the side of law and order.

And *that* is where the "the police are to protect the criminals" line comes from. The police are intended to depersonalize crime, cutting off the cycle of vendetta and feuding that marks tribal society. Part of that involves ensuring the accused makes it to trial -- which means protecting them from their victims and the rest of society.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 15, 2017 08:20 PM (fVubI)

401 Vigilantism comes like a preference cascade. Nobody wants to be the first one to jump.

Posted by: Toad-O at February 15, 2017 08:21 PM (cct0t)

402 Hi Miley!

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:21 PM (Sfs6o)

403 Weasel, old boxes are appreciated. I got a beautifully crafted wooden box with a handle and a removable tray at an estate sale several years ago, $8. It holds all my art brushes and tools, not meant for art supplies but it's perfect. always get great compliments on it!

Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 08:21 PM (j7IPx)

404 I have a few Kobalt tools and they seem to be reasonably well made.

For what it's worth, I have a Craftsman Phillips head screwdriver that is probably fifty years old and it is still the best Phillips head screwdriver I have ever owned. The steel they used has never degraded and this screwdriver has been able to remove the most abused Phillips head screws I have encountered.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2017 08:21 PM (UDXti)

405 327 Speaking of tools, I have a lot of machinist's measuring tools, calipers and micrometers and so forth. I recently bought a used set of pin gages on eBay and found a couple missing when the set arrived. So I ordered replacements and decided to refinish the original wood box the set was in. The whole process of restoring the set was oddly satisfying.
Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 07:54 PM (Sfs6o)


Very nice story, Weasel. I for one, appreciate it, even if I have no idea what pin gages are. But I like the part about refinishing the wooden box.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 08:23 PM (nQ10o)

406 Posted by: LizLem at February 15, 2017 08:21 PM (j7IPx)
-------
I know what you mean - and this was just a really plain, utilitarian box that was really scuffed up and sort of abused on the outside from spending the last 30 years in a machine shop. Truth be told, I felt sort of sorry for it!

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:24 PM (Sfs6o)

407 Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 15, 2017 08:23 PM (nQ10o)
---------
Thank you Ladylibertarian - but I was just teasing....
Pin gages are wire pins about 2 inches long that have very precise diameters - to something like .0005". They're used for checking the tolerances of machined holes.

Posted by: Weasel at February 15, 2017 08:27 PM (Sfs6o)

408 336 Police exist:
A) to protect the populace from criminals, or
B) to protect criminals from the populace
Answer is A. B is shallow machismo.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 15, 2017 07:53 PM (GN0/0)


Where do rooftop Koreans fit into this picture?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)

409 oops.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 15, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)

410 A 71 year old knocked unconscious is a potential death sentence for the 71 year old. No arrests? Heads need to roll.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 15, 2017 08:34 PM (6n332)

411
He asked if any attacks were real. Attacks
against Jews have increased but are downplayed since it's usually
muslims doing the attacking. Impossible to tell against Christians. They
almost certainly happen as well, but no one in authority will agree to
designate it as a hate crime when it does.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 15, 2017 07:07 PM (sEDyY)

The whole state apparatus is bent on attacking Christians.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 15, 2017 08:39 PM (FTXAT)

412 I'd like to see a list of Trump supporters, and other innocents who were injured by
Democrat rioters.



For the record, and Americans deserve to see it in black and white.

Posted by: Pam at February 15, 2017 09:02 PM (cF0hS)

413 This is how you get vigilantism.
Posted by: Ace at 07:00 PM

-------

There is no need for vigilantism. We have the federal government.

The federal government is quite practiced at enforcing the Constitution on localities when it wishes.

Perhaps what President Trump should do is appoint a federal Provost Marshall with a suitable armed force for the Berkeley district and "reconstruct" the local authorities to ensure they respect the Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 15, 2017 09:09 PM (hA1V+)

414 Just sayin: If a few of these black bloc clowns were, say, shot in the leg, or took a shotgun load of rock salt in the ass during one of these protests, it would be pretty easy to identify them once they got to the hospital.

Again, just sayin.

Posted by: Offended Man at February 15, 2017 10:59 PM (P/8kS)

415 Has Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) been charged with placing a senior in a dangerous position (It is California).

Posted by: Davod at February 16, 2017 04:32 AM (FWznJ)

416 Garage Doors Matter.......................

Posted by: saf at February 16, 2017 12:06 PM (+zN6H)

417 THIS is why you MUST stop trusting the police and accept that they must earn their respect along with everyone else: on a case-by-case basis. They are clearly more interested in picking and choosing what laws they want to enforce, and when.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at February 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Bm4ql)

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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat