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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
German Muslim students protest Holocaust remembrance, attack Israel
Or maybe we did such a good job de-fanging Germany that they are unwilling to fight for anything, and see all philosophies as superior to their own.The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."I am curious what discussion was had whose basis is the rejection of Holocaust education, and demonization of Israel...but that's just me.
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Somewhere near the top.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 29, 2017 11:55 AM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 29, 2017 11:56 AM (Jcg9Q)
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Ok I'll call the others.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 29, 2017 11:56 AM (Jcg9Q)
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In a word, Yes.
Posted by: NIL lurker at January 29, 2017 11:57 AM (CEU4j)
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Nood.
Posted by: Mega at January 29, 2017 11:58 AM (43N/L)
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I vote yes.
Posted by: missed it by this much at January 29, 2017 11:58 AM (BO/km)
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Aye.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2017 11:59 AM (TRzoP)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 11:59 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 11:59 AM (sdi6R)
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Islam is a cancer on the civilized world.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2017 11:59 AM (TRzoP)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (Gv7El)
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Yes
Posted by: lindafell no longer in de spair at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (JNDQi)
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The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."
Translation: Anti-Semitic teacher encourages students to be anti-semitic under the guise of "tolerance" with assistance from 'islam.'
Translation: Anti-Semitic teacher encourages students to be anti-semitic under the guise of "tolerance" with assistance from 'islam.'
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (J5mC3)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (Om16U)
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Let me mullah this one over.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2017 12:01 PM (TRzoP)
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I'm supposed to be raking leaves right now but am thinking of "leaving the rake" instead.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 29, 2017 12:01 PM (epmsh)
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Sunday post noon. Booze can't come too soon!
Posted by: Hillary Now! at January 29, 2017 12:02 PM (bc2Lc)
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nice meme
It needs a slogan like "my open door is a welcome to refugees."
/and it also says "rob me, rape my wife and terrorize my children." But they can find that out themselves.
It needs a slogan like "my open door is a welcome to refugees."
/and it also says "rob me, rape my wife and terrorize my children." But they can find that out themselves.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:02 PM (J5mC3)
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 12:03 PM (X+rUO)
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Steve Jobs was half Syrian.
Posted by: Tom Friedman at January 29, 2017 12:03 PM (TRzoP)
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Islam is incompatible with civilization same a feminism.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:03 PM (B9BVe)
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Muslim students of Arab and Turkish origin protested
participation in an International Holocaust Remembrance Day event in
Germany, while their high school's administration showed understanding
for their criticism of Israel.
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"Nazi Collaborator George Soros-Funded Group Pays Muslim Students In Germany To Show Their Asses At Jewish Memorial"
Unfake News
Muslim students of Arab and Turkish origin protested
participation in an International Holocaust Remembrance Day event in
Germany, while their high school's administration showed understanding
for their criticism of Israel.
===
"Nazi Collaborator George Soros-Funded Group Pays Muslim Students In Germany To Show Their Asses At Jewish Memorial"
Unfake News
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 12:03 PM (Gv7El)
23
FNC just showed Dick Durbin as (R-IL)
FNC is shit
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And... incompetent.
That's what you get when you hire cheap snowflakes from "journo school."
FNC is shit
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And... incompetent.
That's what you get when you hire cheap snowflakes from "journo school."
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:03 PM (J5mC3)
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I know many here have read Matt Bracken's "What I saw at the coup."
He wrote a great short story series more recently dealing with islam called, "Piss Christ? Piss Koran!" Like Crichton's book "State of Fear" in that it's really a lecture to the reader on why islam is not compatible w/western civilization.
Here's part 1 (which includes links to the successive parts):
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/06/piss-christ-piss-koran-part-one/
He wrote a great short story series more recently dealing with islam called, "Piss Christ? Piss Koran!" Like Crichton's book "State of Fear" in that it's really a lecture to the reader on why islam is not compatible w/western civilization.
Here's part 1 (which includes links to the successive parts):
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/06/piss-christ-piss-koran-part-one/
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2017 12:04 PM (NOIQH)
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Somehow I smell collaboration.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 29, 2017 12:04 PM (mCC9i)
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"The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion.""
They always say they want a conversation, why don't they say prior to any protests, an organized debate has to be had in the auditorium. Make these shitheels come in and defend their ideas instead for shouting people down. Any breach and they are expelled and can do their SJW mission uninterrupted by any diversions.
They always say they want a conversation, why don't they say prior to any protests, an organized debate has to be had in the auditorium. Make these shitheels come in and defend their ideas instead for shouting people down. Any breach and they are expelled and can do their SJW mission uninterrupted by any diversions.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 29, 2017 12:04 PM (iWW0H)
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Or maybe we did such a good job de-fanging Germany that they are unwilling to fight for anything, and see all philosophies as superior to their own.
Au contraire. These German Muslims are the true inheritors of the dominant German political philosophy of the 1930's.
Au contraire. These German Muslims are the true inheritors of the dominant German political philosophy of the 1930's.
Posted by: melanerpes at January 29, 2017 12:04 PM (ZD0Qq)
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All of this winning is preventing me from doing other things.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:05 PM (B9BVe)
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Ah, yes. Next question.
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 12:05 PM (0AwCy)
30
So it's ok to discuss the murder of innocent Jews but not the expulsion of Islamists whose proclaimed intent is to overthrow your democratic government and replace it with their own totalitarian theocracy?
They've taken useful idiocy to a new level.
They've taken useful idiocy to a new level.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at January 29, 2017 12:06 PM (zStME)
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Good link, Lizzy. I've read that.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:06 PM (sdi6R)
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Whether the Jooos are perfidious is one of the few subjects on which debate is still welcome in the academy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2017 12:07 PM (TRzoP)
33
See Gatestoneinstitute on rumbling of Catholics rebelling against the churches surrender to the Islamic invaders.
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 12:07 PM (0AwCy)
34
So now Trumps in 'trouble' for failing to mention the Jews in his holocaust remembrance message.
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"It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity an horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror."
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So apparently no Jews were victims, survivors or heroes of the Holocaust. And they sure weren't innocent!
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"It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity an horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror."
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So apparently no Jews were victims, survivors or heroes of the Holocaust. And they sure weren't innocent!
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:07 PM (PqqkK)
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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
Only when they're binary intersectional.
Only when they're binary intersectional.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 29, 2017 12:09 PM (Tyii7)
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#27: Good point! The Nazis had officially-approved allies in the Middle East running around with Nazi flags and working to exterminate Jews living near them.
Amin al-Husseini, who had been stupidly installed as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem by the British, was one of them.
Amin al-Husseini, who had been stupidly installed as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem by the British, was one of them.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at January 29, 2017 12:09 PM (0OG8D)
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"Some Muslims students said they would not participate in the
event," said Florian Beer, a teacher at the school in the city of
Gelsenkirchen in North Rhine-Westphalia state, Der Westen newspaper
reported on Thursday.
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Which probably means more students stayed home than they care to admit.
Yet the noisy , likely Soros-financed minority gets the ink. Always.
I am thinking about the refugee Iraqi guy who stunned the left by praising America and Trump after being detained.
Not defending the religion of murder. Just thinking out loud.
event," said Florian Beer, a teacher at the school in the city of
Gelsenkirchen in North Rhine-Westphalia state, Der Westen newspaper
reported on Thursday.
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Which probably means more students stayed home than they care to admit.
Yet the noisy , likely Soros-financed minority gets the ink. Always.
I am thinking about the refugee Iraqi guy who stunned the left by praising America and Trump after being detained.
Not defending the religion of murder. Just thinking out loud.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 12:09 PM (Gv7El)
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Islam is incompatible with humanity.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 29, 2017 12:10 PM (TAnIQ)
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Speaking of the Holocaust, this crossed my TL yesterday. It's both nauseating and brilliant.
Selfies at the Holocaust Museum
http://bit.ly/2kgQtXz
Selfies at the Holocaust Museum
http://bit.ly/2kgQtXz
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:10 PM (SEXy3)
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Aaand again. I don't get it. Jews have much more in common culturally with Germans than Muslims do, since they have by and large assimilated. You get any recording of Bach's unaccompanied violin sonatas, and chances are, the violinist will be Jewish.
So why is so much latitude given to these pool defecating gropists to dredge up a past that Germany is (rightly) ashamed of? Why does Germany side with them instead of with their Jewish population with which they have much more in common in almost every way (even religion wise, since the Old Testament is considered part of Christian scripture)?
So why is so much latitude given to these pool defecating gropists to dredge up a past that Germany is (rightly) ashamed of? Why does Germany side with them instead of with their Jewish population with which they have much more in common in almost every way (even religion wise, since the Old Testament is considered part of Christian scripture)?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 12:10 PM (rH4JY)
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The Germans did learn that war is evil and didn't learn evil should be fought.
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 12:10 PM (0AwCy)
42
There are elements of Islam that actually are compatable with western society. It calls for caring for the needy, opposes things like murder and theft, and directs its people to be law abiding. Islam is at its core another works-based religion where you are judged at the end of time for your balance of good vs evil (sort of like Zoroastrianism) so the central concept could be interpreted and turned into a valuable and useful addition to the world.
The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete mess.
The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete mess.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (39g3+)
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I am curious what discussion was had whose basis is the rejection of Holocaust education, and demonization of Israel.
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We shouldda gone with the Zyklon A?
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We shouldda gone with the Zyklon A?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)
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The President has a lot of plenary authority over immigration per statutes on the books, which many pundits (and now a couple of judges) ignore.
One of the bases for excluding would-be entrants is past or current membership in a Communist or totalitarian party.
Isn't Islam a totalitarian party? Certainly strains like ISIS are. If the Nazis worshiped Odin they'd still be totalitarian, no?
One of the bases for excluding would-be entrants is past or current membership in a Communist or totalitarian party.
Isn't Islam a totalitarian party? Certainly strains like ISIS are. If the Nazis worshiped Odin they'd still be totalitarian, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (bQxkN)
45
Islam is incompatible with compatability
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (PqqkK)
46
I would like to thank the usual suspects, bluebell, madamemayhem, Miley and others who sent up vehicle prayers for me yesterday afternoon.
I firmly believe it's what got this old part hobbit/elf/ranger 'there and back again.'
The gig went well aside from starting and finishing an hour later than originally booked. They had booked some kids from the KC music academy in, in front of us so waiting for them to tear down and load out put things behind.
We didn't mind. It was fun watching them "grow" a bit and gain a little confidence with each song as people applauded for them. First time in that type of setting for most of them I'm guessing.
Anyway, thanks again!!
I firmly believe it's what got this old part hobbit/elf/ranger 'there and back again.'
The gig went well aside from starting and finishing an hour later than originally booked. They had booked some kids from the KC music academy in, in front of us so waiting for them to tear down and load out put things behind.
We didn't mind. It was fun watching them "grow" a bit and gain a little confidence with each song as people applauded for them. First time in that type of setting for most of them I'm guessing.
Anyway, thanks again!!
Posted by: teej at January 29, 2017 12:12 PM (3duqG)
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The Jews in Germany wanted to be German around the time of the 1st WW, they fought in the German army and consider it to be their homeland.
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 12:12 PM (0AwCy)
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The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete mess.
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so we need more cafeteria Muslims
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so we need more cafeteria Muslims
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:13 PM (PqqkK)
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The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery
Well, sure, every religion has a few minor problems. Way to focus on the motes, while ignoring the beams.
Well, sure, every religion has a few minor problems. Way to focus on the motes, while ignoring the beams.
Posted by: pep at January 29, 2017 12:13 PM (LAe3v)
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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
Islam IS incompatible with ALL society.
Islam IS incompatible with ALL society.
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2017 12:13 PM (8J/Te)
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32 Whether the Jooos are perfidious is one of the few subjects on which debate is still welcome in the academy.
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I thought it was now 'HOW perfidious'
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I thought it was now 'HOW perfidious'
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:14 PM (PqqkK)
52
See Gatestoneinstitute on rumbling of Catholics rebelling against the churches surrender to the Islamic invaders.
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Interesting read.
As a Catholic, I see something very simplistic behind all of this pandering to Islam: at best, Pope Frank wants to somehow get those one billion Muslims to become Catholic. At worst, he wants to be the head of the One World Religion that puts him in charge of all Christians and Muslims.
/guess he's going to need to work on the Buddhist and Hindu outreach programs as well.
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Interesting read.
As a Catholic, I see something very simplistic behind all of this pandering to Islam: at best, Pope Frank wants to somehow get those one billion Muslims to become Catholic. At worst, he wants to be the head of the One World Religion that puts him in charge of all Christians and Muslims.
/guess he's going to need to work on the Buddhist and Hindu outreach programs as well.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:14 PM (J5mC3)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 29, 2017 12:14 PM (EnKk6)
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Supporting the replacement of U.S. law with Sharia law appears to be a violation of 8 U.S. code 1182 - under the "overthrow of the U.S. Government" clause and serves as a disqualification for immigrants seeking admission to the United States.
Posted by: An Observation at January 29, 2017 12:14 PM (1Q15G)
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I wrote this for another blog, about how Islam conquers societies:
When Muslims are a tiny minority in a population, they tend to be peaceful and keep to themselves. They may be upstanding members of society. They say, "We just want to be left alone to practice our religion in peace."
As their numbers grow, they begin making demands on the majority population. They will use the infidels' sense of tolerance against them. They will demand that Muslim cabdrivers not be required to pick up fares with alcohol or seeing-eye dogs, that Muslim checkout clerks in grocery stores not be required to handle pork products, or that Muslim-style footbaths be installed in public restrooms. Any resistance to their demands is met with accusations of bigotry or "Islamophobia".
When their numbers climb above 5% or so, they begin to get violent. It starts small, with scattered incidents that gradually become more organized and frequent. Above 10%, conditions really begin to deteriorate. They become openly threatening and aggressive towards kaffirs in public. Muslim political leaders get elected to more and more government offices, and begin to influence public policy. They start putting loudspeakers on mosques, forcing everyone to hear that caterwauling five times a day, every day, for the rest of their lives. There is no escape.
As their numbers climb higher, violent incidents become endemic. They begin to attack churches and synagogues filled with worshippers. Non-Muslims start to flee the violence, causing the Muslim percentage of the population to grow even faster.
Above 50%, it's "Convert, pay the jizya, or die, infidel."
Then the Muslim percentage of the population explodes, as terrified people convert with a literal knife held to their necks. The conquest is complete.
Islam teaches that Muslims are superior to all other people. Non-Muslims are technically "tolerated" in a majority Muslim nation, but under sharia law they are legally second-class citizens. They must pay a special tax (the jizya) and there may be additional restrictions placed on their behavior. Historically, these have taken various forms in different times and places. For example, a non-Muslim may not be allowed to build his house taller than the house of a Muslim, or he may not be allowed to look a Muslim in the eye but must keep his eyes downcast, or he may be required to wear special clothing to advertise his status as a dhimmi. (Where do you think Hitler got the idea of making Jews wear a yellow Star of David? Yep.)
In a Muslim majority nation, non-Muslims may be subject to being beaten, raped, or killed by Muslims, at a whim or on a slender pretext, and there are often little or no legal consequences for doing so. Rape of uncovered women by Muslim men has reached epidemic proportions in parts of Europe, and they're not even a majority. Yet.
While it may take decades or longer to play out, this pattern has repeated time and time again in countries that have been conquered by Islam. It is as predictable as the sunrise. The only way to avoid it is to make sure that Muslims remain a tiny minority in the population. Once they gain a foothold, the progression is inexorable.
When Muslims are a tiny minority in a population, they tend to be peaceful and keep to themselves. They may be upstanding members of society. They say, "We just want to be left alone to practice our religion in peace."
As their numbers grow, they begin making demands on the majority population. They will use the infidels' sense of tolerance against them. They will demand that Muslim cabdrivers not be required to pick up fares with alcohol or seeing-eye dogs, that Muslim checkout clerks in grocery stores not be required to handle pork products, or that Muslim-style footbaths be installed in public restrooms. Any resistance to their demands is met with accusations of bigotry or "Islamophobia".
When their numbers climb above 5% or so, they begin to get violent. It starts small, with scattered incidents that gradually become more organized and frequent. Above 10%, conditions really begin to deteriorate. They become openly threatening and aggressive towards kaffirs in public. Muslim political leaders get elected to more and more government offices, and begin to influence public policy. They start putting loudspeakers on mosques, forcing everyone to hear that caterwauling five times a day, every day, for the rest of their lives. There is no escape.
As their numbers climb higher, violent incidents become endemic. They begin to attack churches and synagogues filled with worshippers. Non-Muslims start to flee the violence, causing the Muslim percentage of the population to grow even faster.
Above 50%, it's "Convert, pay the jizya, or die, infidel."
Then the Muslim percentage of the population explodes, as terrified people convert with a literal knife held to their necks. The conquest is complete.
Islam teaches that Muslims are superior to all other people. Non-Muslims are technically "tolerated" in a majority Muslim nation, but under sharia law they are legally second-class citizens. They must pay a special tax (the jizya) and there may be additional restrictions placed on their behavior. Historically, these have taken various forms in different times and places. For example, a non-Muslim may not be allowed to build his house taller than the house of a Muslim, or he may not be allowed to look a Muslim in the eye but must keep his eyes downcast, or he may be required to wear special clothing to advertise his status as a dhimmi. (Where do you think Hitler got the idea of making Jews wear a yellow Star of David? Yep.)
In a Muslim majority nation, non-Muslims may be subject to being beaten, raped, or killed by Muslims, at a whim or on a slender pretext, and there are often little or no legal consequences for doing so. Rape of uncovered women by Muslim men has reached epidemic proportions in parts of Europe, and they're not even a majority. Yet.
While it may take decades or longer to play out, this pattern has repeated time and time again in countries that have been conquered by Islam. It is as predictable as the sunrise. The only way to avoid it is to make sure that Muslims remain a tiny minority in the population. Once they gain a foothold, the progression is inexorable.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R)
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Dear Germany:
Nazism taught you nothing. Instead of learning that evil must be fought, you learned that fighting is evil.
-- Dennis Prager
Nazism taught you nothing. Instead of learning that evil must be fought, you learned that fighting is evil.
-- Dennis Prager
Posted by: ShainS at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (mt8X9)
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The constant comparisons of Jews in the Holocaust with Muslims is not just infuriating but ignorant to a painful degree that is horrendous to the victims of Nazi (and Soviet) evil.
Jews being turned away from the USA by immigration limits was ghastly because they were specifically being hunted down, tortured, and murdered for being Jews.
Turning Muslims away because of their murderous tendencies when they are (allegedly) fleeing a war of their own doing against each other irrespective of their race and religion is a completely different thing.
Only an incomprehensibly vast asshole would conflate the two.
Jews being turned away from the USA by immigration limits was ghastly because they were specifically being hunted down, tortured, and murdered for being Jews.
Turning Muslims away because of their murderous tendencies when they are (allegedly) fleeing a war of their own doing against each other irrespective of their race and religion is a completely different thing.
Only an incomprehensibly vast asshole would conflate the two.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (39g3+)
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49 The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery
Well, sure, every religion has a few minor problems. Way to focus on the motes, while ignoring the beams.
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Just wait till one of them grabs a pussy.
Well, sure, every religion has a few minor problems. Way to focus on the motes, while ignoring the beams.
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Just wait till one of them grabs a pussy.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (PqqkK)
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In short, Islam is incompatible with everything else. A tribe of baboons is more civilized. And that is saying something.
Posted by: pat at January 29, 2017 12:16 PM (4MSOz)
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The school director said that it was good there was student opposition
to the memorial event because it"is the basis of discussion." a handy way for me to dodge the Anti-Nazi statutes
FIFxer
The school director said that it was good there was student opposition
to the memorial event because it
FIFxer
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2017 12:16 PM (8J/Te)
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BTW, I worked pretty closely with two Muslims at one of my last jobs.
One was Turkish, drank liquor and did not pray 1,000x a day. He was a functioning member of society and not at all scary. Had daughters who appeared to date non-Muslims. But... not Sunni/Shia.
The other was a black guy who changed his name to be more "african" and was a Sufi. Outside of the lazy, entitled NAACP attitude, I really don't feel he was going to go jihadi at any time either.
One was Turkish, drank liquor and did not pray 1,000x a day. He was a functioning member of society and not at all scary. Had daughters who appeared to date non-Muslims. But... not Sunni/Shia.
The other was a black guy who changed his name to be more "african" and was a Sufi. Outside of the lazy, entitled NAACP attitude, I really don't feel he was going to go jihadi at any time either.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:17 PM (J5mC3)
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Ummmmmm....Yes. Islam is a made up "religion" used by those who want to control others and it offers nothing of value but death, debasement and mutilation.
It should be outlawed in all civilized countries.
It should be outlawed in all civilized countries.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 12:17 PM (5VlCp)
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NDH that was brilliant yet so sad
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 12:17 PM (0AwCy)
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It should be outlawed in all civilized countries.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 12:17 PM (5VlCp)
This!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 12:17 PM (5VlCp)
This!
Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 29, 2017 12:18 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (Sfs6o)
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I blame the Nazi's for giving genocide a bad name. There are many cultures long gone that we would not want in our world.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (PqqkK)
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Ummmmmm....Yes. Islam is a made up "religion" used by those who want to control others and it offers nothing of value but death, debasement and mutilation.
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Mohammad was a pedophile.
Some say he was schizophrenic.
If God is the head of the Judeo Christian Church, I'm pretty sure his arch nemesis Satan is steering Islam.
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Mohammad was a pedophile.
Some say he was schizophrenic.
If God is the head of the Judeo Christian Church, I'm pretty sure his arch nemesis Satan is steering Islam.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (J5mC3)
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I think a "reformation" of Islam rejecting all teachings and additions by all clerics and judges to Islam for the past 700 years or so would be a great start. Then they could examine the text and consider portions about conquest and abuse of women to be "negated" by other portions on love and humility, and the portions on how to run a country to be "civil" law only applicable to Muhammad's rulership of Arabia.
That would free the religion to a basic set of moral codes and behavioral procedures lacking the crazy and awful stuff. The problem is, that also eliminates all the cultural Arabic stuff that attracts them so greatly.
That would free the religion to a basic set of moral codes and behavioral procedures lacking the crazy and awful stuff. The problem is, that also eliminates all the cultural Arabic stuff that attracts them so greatly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (39g3+)
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White Germans are encumbered by collective guilt over WWII, particularly the Holocaust, so generally feel obliged to bow and scrape to ethnic minorities.
(Of course, this infects all Western nations today, but may be most pronounced in Germany.)
(Of course, this infects all Western nations today, but may be most pronounced in Germany.)
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (rft/I)
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The only way to avoid it is to make sure that Muslims remain a tiny
minority in the population. Once they gain a foothold, the progression
is inexorable.
Nice analysis, but it misses an even larger point. Societies that lose faith in themselves, especially those in which the "elites" use condemnation of all of its societies' values as a salve for self-loathing, are not long for this world. If it isn't Muslims that take over, it will be Hitler, or a refusal to propagate, or something. The void will be filled.
minority in the population. Once they gain a foothold, the progression
is inexorable.
Nice analysis, but it misses an even larger point. Societies that lose faith in themselves, especially those in which the "elites" use condemnation of all of its societies' values as a salve for self-loathing, are not long for this world. If it isn't Muslims that take over, it will be Hitler, or a refusal to propagate, or something. The void will be filled.
Posted by: pep at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (LAe3v)
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Christopher @ 42 - Yes, Islam "calls for caring for the needy, opposes things like murder and theft, and directs its people to be law abiding." However, the charity, not murdering, and not stealing is restricted to other Muslims. Us muffins,not so much. And you might want to ask which laws they will abide.
Consider your virtue noted.
Consider your virtue noted.
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (hXu8T)
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The Germans will eventually snap, we know what that looks like.
Posted by: Little Boomer at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (ZuVs9)
73
I find myself withdrawing more and more from social discourse. All my conservative and libertarian friends live out of state.
We have ISIS literally raping and enslaving and murdering people in ways that would have made Hitler giddy, but TRUMP is the Nazi?
I have spent the last eight years arguing logic and facts with people. In the end, no one wanted to hear it. And I don't have the energy anymore to point out all their Obama-loving hypocrisy. I would have no time left to do anything else.
So I'm done with them. They'll get polite greetings from me on occasion, but that's it. I think I need to get more active in our local gun clubs
We have ISIS literally raping and enslaving and murdering people in ways that would have made Hitler giddy, but TRUMP is the Nazi?
I have spent the last eight years arguing logic and facts with people. In the end, no one wanted to hear it. And I don't have the energy anymore to point out all their Obama-loving hypocrisy. I would have no time left to do anything else.
So I'm done with them. They'll get polite greetings from me on occasion, but that's it. I think I need to get more active in our local gun clubs
Posted by: LivingInABlueState at January 29, 2017 12:21 PM (5SerN)
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Islam is incompatible with compatability
Backwards Incompatibility - We're doomed if Microsoft discovers this technology.
Backwards Incompatibility - We're doomed if Microsoft discovers this technology.
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2017 12:21 PM (8J/Te)
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Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R
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A very thorough, accurate analysis and a fine piece of writing, rickl. Well done.
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A very thorough, accurate analysis and a fine piece of writing, rickl. Well done.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2017 12:22 PM (Rsi2C)
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The unhinged Left doesn't bother me.The squishes on our side (ostensibly)ready to turn on Trump,they worry me.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (r/0kC)
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https://tinyurl.com/hllccgk
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Soros Bankrolling Effort to Stop Trump Temporary Refugee Halt Order
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Soros Bankrolling Effort to Stop Trump Temporary Refugee Halt Order
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (y3aQB)
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Nazism taught you nothing. Instead of learning that evil must be fought, you learned that fighting is evil.
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This is exactly what American Bruce Bawer found when he lived in Europe (read "While Europe Slept"). They are in another Weimar era.
He was at a battle site and a young German said "All that fighting, and what did it accomplish?". Well, possibly your very existence, but definitely your being able to live in a democracy (if you can keep it).
Nazism taught you nothing. Instead of learning that evil must be fought, you learned that fighting is evil.
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This is exactly what American Bruce Bawer found when he lived in Europe (read "While Europe Slept"). They are in another Weimar era.
He was at a battle site and a young German said "All that fighting, and what did it accomplish?". Well, possibly your very existence, but definitely your being able to live in a democracy (if you can keep it).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (EnKk6)
79
Not necessarily Islam, but Arab social mores are not consistent with pluralistic Western society.
Then again, liberalism is not consistent with pluralistic Western society. It imposes a similar level of social control.
The quality of Western culture was called "polyarchy." It depicts a society where there is rule of law, a core individualism, and the ability to choose one's political leaders.
Then again, liberalism is not consistent with pluralistic Western society. It imposes a similar level of social control.
The quality of Western culture was called "polyarchy." It depicts a society where there is rule of law, a core individualism, and the ability to choose one's political leaders.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (n3MnG)
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66 I blame the Nazi's for giving genocide a bad name. There are many cultures long gone that we would not want in our world.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (PqqkK)
Good point. I don't miss the Aztecs, for example.
And apparently neither did their neighbors, who sided with the Spanish to destroy them.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (PqqkK)
Good point. I don't miss the Aztecs, for example.
And apparently neither did their neighbors, who sided with the Spanish to destroy them.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (sdi6R)
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Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (r/0kC)
squishes were gonna turn the second they had a chance
squishes were gonna turn the second they had a chance
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 12:23 PM (y3aQB)
82
Remember the precedent Bill Clinton set with the sect of Christianity practiced at Waco and the reports of child abuse?
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (B9BVe)
83
I consider myself a conservative on national security but I have wondered for years about the roles that France, Germany, Belgium and Holland might play in the future of NATO.
And it makes me wonder whether NATO is in fact "obsolete" or even possibly moribund, especially if it should continue its eastern expansion.
Is anyone really confident that German and French governments and young men would be willing to fight and die for the Ukraine when they won't protect their own citizens from "refugees?"
In fact, can we count on our NATO allies to protect Estonia from Russian aggression?
Europe and NATO don't seem to be willing to defend and preserve their way of life. How much more so in 10 years?
Don't get me wrong. I am not a big Trump supporter but he may have some valid points about Europe's commitment to NATO, and protecting western civilization and our way of life.
And it makes me wonder whether NATO is in fact "obsolete" or even possibly moribund, especially if it should continue its eastern expansion.
Is anyone really confident that German and French governments and young men would be willing to fight and die for the Ukraine when they won't protect their own citizens from "refugees?"
In fact, can we count on our NATO allies to protect Estonia from Russian aggression?
Europe and NATO don't seem to be willing to defend and preserve their way of life. How much more so in 10 years?
Don't get me wrong. I am not a big Trump supporter but he may have some valid points about Europe's commitment to NATO, and protecting western civilization and our way of life.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (xUc0d)
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#71 - Kuffir, not muffins. Effing autocucumber
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (hXu8T)
85
Somebody who wants power is always going to seize upon Islam as the way to do it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Swedish Muslims at January 29, 2017 12:25 PM (39g3+)
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I didn't realize Michelle Obama got a gig on FNC? Oh, my bad....it's Artbel Neville.
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 12:25 PM (X+rUO)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 12:25 PM (n3MnG)
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Trump said that he doesn't want radical Islamic terrorists in the United States and the Left is freaking the fuck out like he should never say such a thing.
Like maybe he is supposed to want radical Islamic terrorists here or something.
Like maybe he is supposed to want radical Islamic terrorists here or something.
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2017 12:26 PM (HV1LS)
90
This, I believe, is tangentially related and I hope you'll indulge me...
Why is the left doing what it is doing, protesting, violently protesting, plotting and carrying out attacks on anyone not left, embracing abhorrent ideals, promoting death and making death threats, rioting; the list could obviously go on a long time?
They are doing this, I believe because they believe that they are 'the good guys', and this idea has been for a very long time now, reinforced by primary and secondary education, academia, the media, Hollywood, leftist elites, Dem politicians, and Republican politicians. Republican politicians because of their lack of commitment to their own ideals which, quite frankly, have been damned hard to identify in recent years - since Reagan, at least.
Worse than their belief that they are 'the good guys,' is their belief that, because they are 'the good guys,' is that everyone else - everybody who isn't a 'good guy,' is not only 'a bad guy,' but is also a fascist and therefore worthy of whatever fascist treatment 'the good guys' decide to mete out on them. AND... they have come to believe, naturally because they HAVE gotten away with it for so long, the they should able to get away with whatever conspiratorial and actual criminal, violent and riotous acts they decide to engage in.
Law enforcement in many areas of this country has been ordered to reinforce this belief and in some cases, at the very highest levels, has actually encouraged this behavior.
Instead of protecting ALL citizens, our 'leaders' have decided to protect certain citizens at the expense of all others.
This, by definition, is anarchy.
That we are "a nation of laws" is ludicrous, at this point.
Fascism, by whatever title one chooses to hang on it, is a leftist ideal. The label 'fascist' thrown at the right by the left, follows an Alinskyite rule of "pick the target, freeze it, and polarize it. "Isolate your enemy from sympathy," it says.
That Soros is backing this movement to the hilt is, or should be, no great surprise. He is trying to do what the adage says is impossible: He is trying to go home, to the "happiest time of his life," a time of national socialism - Nazism - fascism.
These people, though straining to see us as facists while identifying themselves as the entitled, enabled and by their virtue, guiltless 'good guys,' are doing exactly what every good Nazi would have done during Soros' glory days.
Until they are held accountable for their criminal acts - and this means Madonna and every other brown shirt on the left - this will continue to be this country's lot.
Why is the left doing what it is doing, protesting, violently protesting, plotting and carrying out attacks on anyone not left, embracing abhorrent ideals, promoting death and making death threats, rioting; the list could obviously go on a long time?
They are doing this, I believe because they believe that they are 'the good guys', and this idea has been for a very long time now, reinforced by primary and secondary education, academia, the media, Hollywood, leftist elites, Dem politicians, and Republican politicians. Republican politicians because of their lack of commitment to their own ideals which, quite frankly, have been damned hard to identify in recent years - since Reagan, at least.
Worse than their belief that they are 'the good guys,' is their belief that, because they are 'the good guys,' is that everyone else - everybody who isn't a 'good guy,' is not only 'a bad guy,' but is also a fascist and therefore worthy of whatever fascist treatment 'the good guys' decide to mete out on them. AND... they have come to believe, naturally because they HAVE gotten away with it for so long, the they should able to get away with whatever conspiratorial and actual criminal, violent and riotous acts they decide to engage in.
Law enforcement in many areas of this country has been ordered to reinforce this belief and in some cases, at the very highest levels, has actually encouraged this behavior.
Instead of protecting ALL citizens, our 'leaders' have decided to protect certain citizens at the expense of all others.
This, by definition, is anarchy.
That we are "a nation of laws" is ludicrous, at this point.
Fascism, by whatever title one chooses to hang on it, is a leftist ideal. The label 'fascist' thrown at the right by the left, follows an Alinskyite rule of "pick the target, freeze it, and polarize it. "Isolate your enemy from sympathy," it says.
That Soros is backing this movement to the hilt is, or should be, no great surprise. He is trying to do what the adage says is impossible: He is trying to go home, to the "happiest time of his life," a time of national socialism - Nazism - fascism.
These people, though straining to see us as facists while identifying themselves as the entitled, enabled and by their virtue, guiltless 'good guys,' are doing exactly what every good Nazi would have done during Soros' glory days.
Until they are held accountable for their criminal acts - and this means Madonna and every other brown shirt on the left - this will continue to be this country's lot.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Aware and I WILL NOT COMPLY!) at January 29, 2017 12:26 PM (Gh3fw)
91
Jews being turned away from the USA by immigration limits was ghastly because they were specifically being hunted down, tortured, and murdered for being Jews.
Turning Muslims away because of their murderous tendencies when they are (allegedly) fleeing a war of their own doing against each other irrespective of their race and religion is a completely different thing.
Only an incomprehensibly vast asshole would conflate the two.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
But you have to admit, turning away Muslims who want to emigrate here is exactly the same as turning away Jews fleeing the Holocaust.
Turning Muslims away because of their murderous tendencies when they are (allegedly) fleeing a war of their own doing against each other irrespective of their race and religion is a completely different thing.
Only an incomprehensibly vast asshole would conflate the two.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
But you have to admit, turning away Muslims who want to emigrate here is exactly the same as turning away Jews fleeing the Holocaust.
Posted by: Hope Solo at January 29, 2017 12:27 PM (rH4JY)
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#69
White Germans are encumbered by collective guilt over WWII, particularly
the Holocaust, so generally feel obliged to bow and scrape to ethnic
minorities.
(Of course, this infects all Western nations today, but may be most pronounced in Germany.)
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That's the velvet glove that obscures Germany's vision of the EU. The EU, of course is Germany 80% and France 20%. Germany's predominant role requires a muted foreign policy that's focused on manufacturing exports world-wide (including some of the most repulsive regimes in the world), and not scaring the sh*t out of the smaller EU partners with belligerent rhetoric and with a big and expansive military force structure.
White Germans are encumbered by collective guilt over WWII, particularly
the Holocaust, so generally feel obliged to bow and scrape to ethnic
minorities.
(Of course, this infects all Western nations today, but may be most pronounced in Germany.)
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That's the velvet glove that obscures Germany's vision of the EU. The EU, of course is Germany 80% and France 20%. Germany's predominant role requires a muted foreign policy that's focused on manufacturing exports world-wide (including some of the most repulsive regimes in the world), and not scaring the sh*t out of the smaller EU partners with belligerent rhetoric and with a big and expansive military force structure.
Posted by: mrp at January 29, 2017 12:27 PM (JBggj)
93
Yes, Islam "calls for caring for the needy, opposes things like murder and theft, and directs its people to be law abiding." However, the charity, not murdering, and not stealing is restricted to other Muslims.
You're right, it is directed only to fellow Muslims or those under Muslim rule (to a lesser extent). However it wouldn't take much for that to be shifted to mean "everyone" in a proper reformation of the religion. The elements are there to make a constructive faith that could add to the world rather than be a destructive force.
That was my point, not some effort at "virtue" as you put it.
You're right, it is directed only to fellow Muslims or those under Muslim rule (to a lesser extent). However it wouldn't take much for that to be shifted to mean "everyone" in a proper reformation of the religion. The elements are there to make a constructive faith that could add to the world rather than be a destructive force.
That was my point, not some effort at "virtue" as you put it.
Posted by: Swedish Muslims at January 29, 2017 12:28 PM (39g3+)
94
OT: Re: Days without fake news
Love the side bar item but one criticism: Twitter is NOT news.
This is becoming an increasing pet peeve of mine. Twitter is where the uninformed go to post vapid shit in the hopes that their equally vapid followers will repost it because it was a 'sick burn, yo'. Yes, no matter what level of multi-level chess that I cannot comprehend he's playing on, this statement includes our President.
We're way past due to start separating entertainment from news. An easy start is Twitter in particular and social media in general are NOT valid news sources. Period. Full stop.
Legitimate news reports full stories and verified facts in a objective way. You aren't going to get that from 140 characters who's sole purpose is gaining internet celebrity points. There are endless examples of "fake news" to highlight without resporting the the 100% guaranteed to be idiotic Twitter.
Love the side bar item but one criticism: Twitter is NOT news.
This is becoming an increasing pet peeve of mine. Twitter is where the uninformed go to post vapid shit in the hopes that their equally vapid followers will repost it because it was a 'sick burn, yo'. Yes, no matter what level of multi-level chess that I cannot comprehend he's playing on, this statement includes our President.
We're way past due to start separating entertainment from news. An easy start is Twitter in particular and social media in general are NOT valid news sources. Period. Full stop.
Legitimate news reports full stories and verified facts in a objective way. You aren't going to get that from 140 characters who's sole purpose is gaining internet celebrity points. There are endless examples of "fake news" to highlight without resporting the the 100% guaranteed to be idiotic Twitter.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 12:28 PM (71OEY)
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I may be ignorant here, but isn't Holocaust denial and similar Nazi rhetoric criminalized in Germany?
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 12:28 PM (+PEqr)
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:29 PM (J5mC3)
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42 There are elements of Islam that actually are compatable with western society. It calls for caring for the needy, opposes things like murder and theft, and directs its people to be law abiding. Islam is at its core another works-based religion where you are judged at the end of time for your balance of good vs evil (sort of like Zoroastrianism) so the central concept could be interpreted and turned into a valuable and useful addition to the world.
The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete mess.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (39g3+)
The problem is all the kindness, caring and ethical behavior is only extended to fellow Muslims. All others are fair game to commit any sort of atrocity against. In fact such acts are condoned.
The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete mess.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:11 PM (39g3+)
The problem is all the kindness, caring and ethical behavior is only extended to fellow Muslims. All others are fair game to commit any sort of atrocity against. In fact such acts are condoned.
Posted by: Molly's Mom at January 29, 2017 12:29 PM (EwGtF)
98
NATO's core mission ended in success with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Can it be redefined into something new and useful is the question?
Is there really a Soviet-era risk of an invasion of Germany?
Putin has had other ways of subverting Germany including over energy.
Russia is far down Germany's list of existential threats. No making enough babies is #1, with Islam #2, and they're both related.
Is there really a Soviet-era risk of an invasion of Germany?
Putin has had other ways of subverting Germany including over energy.
Russia is far down Germany's list of existential threats. No making enough babies is #1, with Islam #2, and they're both related.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (bQxkN)
99
I saw the same behavior at the Flight 93 Memorial on 9/11 last year, Neid.
This is a cultural rot in the west.
This is a cultural rot in the west.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (/x6xU)
100
I may be ignorant here, but isn't Holocaust denial and similar Nazi rhetoric criminalized in Germany?
I believe so but Muslim exemption. Its their culture, we cannot judge them, after all look at what we have done as a people! Crusaaaaaaaades!
I believe so but Muslim exemption. Its their culture, we cannot judge them, after all look at what we have done as a people! Crusaaaaaaaades!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (39g3+)
101
Not Neid, Nied. Stupid auto-cucumber.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (/x6xU)
102
Am I the only one here who wonders why Putin is Making Trump do this/ SARCASM
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (y3aQB)
103
America is closed. Golden Scalp Weasel outside shouldda told ya.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 29, 2017 12:31 PM (Nwg0u)
104
Shot: "German Muslim students protest Holocaust remembrance, attack Israel"
Chaser: http://thecovertletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mufti-and-Hitler.jpg
Chaser: http://thecovertletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mufti-and-Hitler.jpg
Posted by: The Historical Hat at January 29, 2017 12:32 PM (vBeA5)
105
Would #Islamo-loatheic be a good meme?
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2017 12:32 PM (8J/Te)
106
>>The problem is that there are also elements of conquest, mistreatment of
women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make
matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the
religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete
mess.
And those later parts of the koran supersede all the peaceful, caring surah.
The ones who quote the peaceful surah as proof that islam is peaceful are being intentionally deceitful.
women, and slavery which are never opposed or explained and to make
matters worse, nearly a thousand years of continual additions to the
religion by scumbags and lunatics have made the religion a complete
mess.
And those later parts of the koran supersede all the peaceful, caring surah.
The ones who quote the peaceful surah as proof that islam is peaceful are being intentionally deceitful.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2017 12:32 PM (NOIQH)
107
Pretty much yes. A very, very small number might be ok, but with our everyone come in immigration policies, it's a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2017 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
108
Horde: If you can, email your Federal Reps to tell them to lend their support for the temporary ban on immigrants from terrorist nations (as defined by Prezzy Barky). It's super simple to find the info on each rep's website. All the "hair on fire" BS from the screaming crowd needs to be counteracted by the reasonable voices of the rest of us.
Posted by: Pet Pal at January 29, 2017 12:33 PM (9NAis)
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Fake News Headline: Trump Signs Muslim Ban (this is lazy twitter sourced, click bait bullshit written for no reason other than to get something on the front page that incorporates trending hashtags)
Real News Headline: Trump Signs Executive Order Reaffirming 2015 Immigration Restriction on Countries Identied by Obama Admin as Exceptional Risks (of course, you'll never see this headline anywhere since none of it is 'trending')
Real News Headline: Trump Signs Executive Order Reaffirming 2015 Immigration Restriction on Countries Identied by Obama Admin as Exceptional Risks (of course, you'll never see this headline anywhere since none of it is 'trending')
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (71OEY)
110
All others are fair game to commit any sort of atrocity against. In fact such acts are condoned.
And encouraged
And encouraged
Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (QPdNE)
111
NATO in the near future will be the military arm of the Caliphate if things don't change.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (B9BVe)
112
I have known and worked with Muslims for almost 40 years as my area was one of the first in the US to see large numbers of them , and there is a lot of truth to that internet "percentage" meme that makes the rounds.
In the beginning (late '70's), they were all pretty swell guys. I knew a couple who went to bars. The women didn't wear hijabs and a number of Muslim kids attended Catholic school. One or two actually converted later.
Then, as more and more of them came, the pressure was on for women to wear the scarves and whatever, they got their own schools and they became very pushy. Trust me, you don't want to be on the road with them on Fridays around noon.....
That said, the Muslims in the US aren't herded into ghettos like in Europe. They are allowed to work and many of them are doing VERY well.
But that becomes a problem because as large numbers of them enroll in American colleges, they are exposed to leftism and quickly pick up on the tactics and language of the perpetually offended of the victim culture. They get politicized and radicalized and become the pets of the campus leftist establishment...
This ain't good.
In the beginning (late '70's), they were all pretty swell guys. I knew a couple who went to bars. The women didn't wear hijabs and a number of Muslim kids attended Catholic school. One or two actually converted later.
Then, as more and more of them came, the pressure was on for women to wear the scarves and whatever, they got their own schools and they became very pushy. Trust me, you don't want to be on the road with them on Fridays around noon.....
That said, the Muslims in the US aren't herded into ghettos like in Europe. They are allowed to work and many of them are doing VERY well.
But that becomes a problem because as large numbers of them enroll in American colleges, they are exposed to leftism and quickly pick up on the tactics and language of the perpetually offended of the victim culture. They get politicized and radicalized and become the pets of the campus leftist establishment...
This ain't good.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (7uYFy)
113
America is closed. Golden Scalp Weasel outside shouldda told ya.
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"We are no longer accepting applications for those who are unskilled, do not want to work, and are mentally unbalanced, hate-filled homicidal religious zealots. Please feel free to apply to Germany, Sweden and France. Thank you for your interest in our nation. "
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"We are no longer accepting applications for those who are unskilled, do not want to work, and are mentally unbalanced, hate-filled homicidal religious zealots. Please feel free to apply to Germany, Sweden and France. Thank you for your interest in our nation. "
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (J5mC3)
114
And those later parts of the koran supersede all the peaceful, caring surah. The ones who quote the peaceful surah as proof that islam is peaceful are being intentionally deceitful.
Exactly, they need to reject that and go back to the first bits -- and as people have pointed out, extend that to everyone, not just their fellow believers. The first parts of the Koran do not specify "but only to other Muslims" because at that point, there were no fellow Muslims, just potential converts. That was added later, and we get back to the crap added that needs to be dropped.
Exactly, they need to reject that and go back to the first bits -- and as people have pointed out, extend that to everyone, not just their fellow believers. The first parts of the Koran do not specify "but only to other Muslims" because at that point, there were no fellow Muslims, just potential converts. That was added later, and we get back to the crap added that needs to be dropped.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (39g3+)
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You're right, it is directed only to fellow Muslims or those under Muslim rule (to a lesser extent). However it wouldn't take much for that to be shifted to mean "everyone" in a proper reformation of the religion. The elements are there to make a constructive faith that could add to the world rather than be a destructive force.
Posted by: Swedish Muslims at January 29, 2017 12:28 PM (39g3+)
That's a load of bullshit. islam is built on the foundation of raiding and conquering everyone and everything. It is the formalization of desert arab culture. It's plagiarized (and perverted) holy books specifically lay out the "evil" nature of Jews and Christians (since mo stole from the Torah and New Testament, changed the stories to suit his purposes, and then called the Jews and Christians liars for the original writings being different from mo's stolen deformations of them. There is no "reformation" of such a ridiculously belligerent and aggressive political ideology - which is really all islam is.
islam is irreformable. It is what it is and that is a nasty, belligerent, aggressive, violent political ideology of theft, murder and the total subjugation (submission) of all. WIthout that ... it just isn't islam in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: Swedish Muslims at January 29, 2017 12:28 PM (39g3+)
That's a load of bullshit. islam is built on the foundation of raiding and conquering everyone and everything. It is the formalization of desert arab culture. It's plagiarized (and perverted) holy books specifically lay out the "evil" nature of Jews and Christians (since mo stole from the Torah and New Testament, changed the stories to suit his purposes, and then called the Jews and Christians liars for the original writings being different from mo's stolen deformations of them. There is no "reformation" of such a ridiculously belligerent and aggressive political ideology - which is really all islam is.
islam is irreformable. It is what it is and that is a nasty, belligerent, aggressive, violent political ideology of theft, murder and the total subjugation (submission) of all. WIthout that ... it just isn't islam in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 12:35 PM (zc3Db)
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82 Remember the precedent Bill Clinton set with the sect of Christianity practiced at Waco and the reports of child abuse?
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (B9BVe)
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Especially since those child abuse charges were proven to be fabricated by Janet Reno ...
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:24 PM (B9BVe)
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Especially since those child abuse charges were proven to be fabricated by Janet Reno ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 29, 2017 12:39 PM (mt8X9)
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There is no "reformation" of such a ridiculously belligerent and aggressive political ideology - which is really all islam is.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that it would take little cultural effort, only that intellectually speaking it is a pretty simple thing to shift meaning and text slightly to a proper end. Getting Muslims to go along with that would take an act of God.
You're absolutely right, most of the Koran is just codifying Arabic culture into a religion and civil system, part of why it was so instantly popular in the region.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that it would take little cultural effort, only that intellectually speaking it is a pretty simple thing to shift meaning and text slightly to a proper end. Getting Muslims to go along with that would take an act of God.
You're absolutely right, most of the Koran is just codifying Arabic culture into a religion and civil system, part of why it was so instantly popular in the region.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:39 PM (39g3+)
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OT but wanted to point out that if there was a drug that you could administer to a terrorist where it would make him tell the truth unequivocally but it had the side effects of flu like symptoms that were gone in a week, the Left would protest against its use. The Left is against the idea of America and its exceptionalism pure and simple. They are the enemy of America as much if not more than Islam.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:39 PM (Xrson)
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>>islam is irreformable. It is what it is and that is a nasty,
belligerent, aggressive, violent political ideology of theft, murder and
the total subjugation (submission) of all. WIthout that ... it just
isn't islam in any way, shape, or form.
It can't co-exist. And where it is overwhelmingly dominant, it is a harsh, cruel, backward existence.
belligerent, aggressive, violent political ideology of theft, murder and
the total subjugation (submission) of all. WIthout that ... it just
isn't islam in any way, shape, or form.
It can't co-exist. And where it is overwhelmingly dominant, it is a harsh, cruel, backward existence.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2017 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
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I just heard someone on CSPAN complaining that Trump didn't run the EO on immigration by the DOJ before signing it! Where were these twits for the last eight years? Oh yeah, because shut up! Welcome to the brave new world @$$h0l3$ you helped create. Bask in its luscious glory!
Posted by: Very Irredeemably Undude at January 29, 2017 12:40 PM (2X7pN)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:34 PM (39g3+)
Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you? Pisslam cannot 'reform' the koran because it is the literal word of Allan. Not every religion should get a trophy. The 'religion' of pisslam needs to be left to its own devices in its own lands, not fomenting war in ours.
Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you? Pisslam cannot 'reform' the koran because it is the literal word of Allan. Not every religion should get a trophy. The 'religion' of pisslam needs to be left to its own devices in its own lands, not fomenting war in ours.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (32Cwc)
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Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R)
The percentage of willing Dhimmis of a country plays a large roll as well.
For example, we have about 1-2% Muslim population here. But the willing Dhimmis are 30% or more. So that would push the Muslim population above 5% and close to the 10% Mark that you speak of. Hence, the open Sharia and violence towards others.
The percentage of willing Dhimmis of a country plays a large roll as well.
For example, we have about 1-2% Muslim population here. But the willing Dhimmis are 30% or more. So that would push the Muslim population above 5% and close to the 10% Mark that you speak of. Hence, the open Sharia and violence towards others.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (B9BVe)
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Islam is the Criss Angel of barbarian invasions.
Posted by: Furuncular Homuncular in your Trunkular at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (x5WWp)
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The fact that islam forces its adherents to kiss the ground in 5 sets a day, every single day, and that there is no such thing as a day of rest or a joyous holiday in islam tells you all you need to know about it and its members. The savage political ideology is all about forcing submission of all and making its members acknowledge, every single day, that they are totally insignificant pieces of trash that are meant to be nothing but fodder for islam and its endless attempts at conquest and subjugation.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (zc3Db)
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Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R)
Nice summary. I no longer listen to Beck, but have to admit that he certainly warned us and gave us a nice education on Islam, when he was on FOX. I have been worried about the gradual creep of Islam, into our culture, for a long time. I have to admit that he was spot on.
Nice summary. I no longer listen to Beck, but have to admit that he certainly warned us and gave us a nice education on Islam, when he was on FOX. I have been worried about the gradual creep of Islam, into our culture, for a long time. I have to admit that he was spot on.
Posted by: Pet Pal at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (9NAis)
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Who f'ing cares?
Posted by: Dave Davies at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (M3DRt)
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They always say they want a conversation, why don't they say prior to any protests, an organized debate has to be had in the auditorium. Make these shitheels come in and defend their ideas instead for shouting people down.
Shouting people down is their definition of discussion.
They always say they want a conversation, why don't they say prior to any protests, an organized debate has to be had in the auditorium. Make these shitheels come in and defend their ideas instead for shouting people down.
Shouting people down is their definition of discussion.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (IqV8l)
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75 Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R
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A very thorough, accurate analysis and a fine piece of writing, rickl. Well done.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2017 12:22 PM (Rsi2C)
Thanks! Everybody, feel free to copy and paste that anywhere you like. Improve on it if you can.
But WITHOUT attribution. I don't need that kind of attention.
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A very thorough, accurate analysis and a fine piece of writing, rickl. Well done.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2017 12:22 PM (Rsi2C)
Thanks! Everybody, feel free to copy and paste that anywhere you like. Improve on it if you can.
But WITHOUT attribution. I don't need that kind of attention.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (sdi6R)
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Remember the precedent Bill Clinton set with the sect of Christianity practiced at Waco and the reports of child abuse?
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
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Many liberals hate Christians.
Many liberals LOVE Islam.
also...
Liberals hate Christians
Muslims hate Christians
Liberals love Muslims.
/enemy of my enemy is my friend
/my friend won't toss me off a building because I'm gay
Why is this tolerated with Muslims?
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Many liberals hate Christians.
Many liberals LOVE Islam.
also...
Liberals hate Christians
Muslims hate Christians
Liberals love Muslims.
/enemy of my enemy is my friend
/my friend won't toss me off a building because I'm gay
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (J5mC3)
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I've linked to this before, but here is what happens when you let in every refugee that wants to get in, and your government is too enamored w/diversity and caring to do its job - just one example:
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/02/calais-we-are-finished-we-are-dead/
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/02/calais-we-are-finished-we-are-dead/
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)
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Also, reformation gets tossed around really loosely. The Protestant Reformation didn't secularize or liberalize Christian teachings -- it was a return to a much more fundamental (in a sense, "extremist") interpretation of scripture.
Going to a more literal interpretation of the Koran would be counterproductive.
Going to a more literal interpretation of the Koran would be counterproductive.
Posted by: sunny-dee at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (QAOZh)
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ICYMI, Tim Kaine, on this morning with Chuck Todd, referring to the lack of the word "Jew" in Trump's Holocaust Remembrance speech:
"This is what Holocaust denial is"
"This is what Holocaust denial is"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (SEXy3)
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99 I saw the same behavior at the Flight 93 Memorial on 9/11 last year, Neid.
This is a cultural rot in the west.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (/x6xU)
This is a cultural rot in the west.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:30 PM (/x6xU)
Posted by: Gem at January 29, 2017 12:43 PM (uaHyk)
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But the willing Dhimmis are 30% or more
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I think the word you are looking for is "collaborators."
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I think the word you are looking for is "collaborators."
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:43 PM (J5mC3)
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Paste didn't work...meant to add, that is sad, indeed.
Posted by: Gem at January 29, 2017 12:43 PM (uaHyk)
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Real News Headline: Trump Signs Executive Order Reaffirming 2015
Immigration Restriction on Countries Identied by Obama Admin as
Exceptional Risks (of course, you'll never see this headline anywhere
since none of it is 'trending')
I watched Reince Priebus say this very thing to Chuck Todd this morning. Todd wasn't having it. It was all whyyyyyyyy are you soooooo mean to muslim countries, and did you exclude Saudi Arabia because of Trump's business ties?
Immigration Restriction on Countries Identied by Obama Admin as
Exceptional Risks (of course, you'll never see this headline anywhere
since none of it is 'trending')
I watched Reince Priebus say this very thing to Chuck Todd this morning. Todd wasn't having it. It was all whyyyyyyyy are you soooooo mean to muslim countries, and did you exclude Saudi Arabia because of Trump's business ties?
Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2017 12:43 PM (hJamr)
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Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you? Pisslam cannot 'reform' the koran because it is the literal word of Allan. Not every religion should get a trophy. The 'religion' of pisslam needs to be left to its own devices in its own lands, not fomenting war in ours.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (32Cwc)
Ok, ok be nice.
Islam can have a reformation movement. It probably will have one.
The problem is that it could be in the next ten years or five hundred years away. No one knows.
Regardless, I'm under no obligation to bow to their demands nor will I. We're also under no obligation to put up with their antics while we wait around for a "reformation" that may or may not occur.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:41 PM (32Cwc)
Ok, ok be nice.
Islam can have a reformation movement. It probably will have one.
The problem is that it could be in the next ten years or five hundred years away. No one knows.
Regardless, I'm under no obligation to bow to their demands nor will I. We're also under no obligation to put up with their antics while we wait around for a "reformation" that may or may not occur.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (4ErVI)
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David Koresh was no Christian .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
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Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 12:15 PM (sdi6R)
Thank you. I have had that essay book-marked for some time now.
Thank you. I have had that essay book-marked for some time now.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 29, 2017 12:45 PM (Kz5ms)
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Oh, and Christopher R Taylor, when a 'religion' worships a raping, caravan robbing, murdering, pedophile warlord as 'the bestest example of man to mankind for all time', it might not be a 'religion' worth saving.
When a Christian murders in the name of Christ, that Christian is not following Christ. When a muzzie murders in the name of Ol' Mo, they are following his example and are doing the right, just and honorable thing.
When a Christian murders in the name of Christ, that Christian is not following Christ. When a muzzie murders in the name of Ol' Mo, they are following his example and are doing the right, just and honorable thing.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:45 PM (32Cwc)
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Soros needs to have an unfortunate plane accident over international waters.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 12:46 PM (89T5c)
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Did Tim Kaine really say that?
What a piece of shit.
What a piece of shit.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 12:46 PM (7uYFy)
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Islam can't be reformed. It would cease to be Islam if it was.
The abrogation of earlier Koran verses by the very last ones backed up by 1300 years of jurisprudence make it impossible.
Also not helping is the house of peace vs. The house of war precedent set immediately after Mohammed died.
The abrogation of earlier Koran verses by the very last ones backed up by 1300 years of jurisprudence make it impossible.
Also not helping is the house of peace vs. The house of war precedent set immediately after Mohammed died.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:46 PM (B9BVe)
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I didn't watch Kaine, NDH, but I did see Todd question Priebus about the lack of the word Jew in the Tweet. Of course the Tweet absolutely supersedes the efforts the admin is making to rebuild our relationship with Israel, to include moving the American embassy to Jerusalem.
Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2017 12:46 PM (hJamr)
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At various places in the interwebs, the Imam/Mayor of London, Frau Merkl and Justine Trudeau are all screaming about Trumps ban.
IMHO, these people are puppets of Soros.
By screaming so loudly, they are simply confirming that Americans made the right choice.
IMHO, these people are puppets of Soros.
By screaming so loudly, they are simply confirming that Americans made the right choice.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM (J5mC3)
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The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."
This is like that Twilight Zone episode. "It's... GOOD that you are making it snow!"
This is like that Twilight Zone episode. "It's... GOOD that you are making it snow!"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM (6FqZa)
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Yes.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM (7qAYi)
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The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."
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Nothing like a little mewling equivocation to smarten up the 'discussion', eh?
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Nothing like a little mewling equivocation to smarten up the 'discussion', eh?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM (NBHj5)
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Presdent Obamama's Middlleeast policy was verg goad and Trump has screwed it up!!! Now we will pay the prise for hurting are relationaships with these people and the piecefull religion they love. Trump lied and Americca died !!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (Soon to be Obamaboro) Vt at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM (Fbj4h)
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#115
That's a load of bullshit. islam is built on the foundation of raiding
and conquering everyone and everything. It is the formalization of
desert arab culture.
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The ISIS depradations (the "JayVee" team) remind me of King Abadullah of Saudi Arabia's visit to the Vatican several years ago. Abdullah presented to Pope Benedict XVI two gifts: A sword encrusted with gold and jewels, and a gold and silver statue of an Arab (scout) perched atop a camel, looking out from a palm tree grove.
That's Islam for you.
That's a load of bullshit. islam is built on the foundation of raiding
and conquering everyone and everything. It is the formalization of
desert arab culture.
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The ISIS depradations (the "JayVee" team) remind me of King Abadullah of Saudi Arabia's visit to the Vatican several years ago. Abdullah presented to Pope Benedict XVI two gifts: A sword encrusted with gold and jewels, and a gold and silver statue of an Arab (scout) perched atop a camel, looking out from a palm tree grove.
That's Islam for you.
Posted by: mrp at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (JBggj)
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Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you?
Pisslam ...
Posted by: RickZ a
Be quiet. The adults are talking.
Pisslam ...
Posted by: RickZ a
Be quiet. The adults are talking.
Posted by: pep at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (LAe3v)
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I tried to reform. Sigh.
Posted by: Achmed the Headless Tailgunner at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (Tyii7)
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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
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There is a certain incoherence in the assumptions behind that question, and it isn't caused by the word "Islam".
pluralism
3. (social sciences) A social system that permits smaller groups within a society to maintain their individual cultural identities.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pluralism
It's the old "melting pot" vs "mixed salad" debate. It's the idea that expecting assimilation from an immigrant is a hate crime.
It's an inherently Progressive ideology, and like most of Progressivism, it's incompatible with Western culture.
If you want to maintain your culture, stay in your own damn country. If you want to be American, well, maybe we'll have a place for you.
As to Islam, Americans have traditionally had more flexibility in the religion arena as opposed to other facets of our culture. Speak English; obey our laws. But, it is perfectly acceptable to practice your own religion as long as that doesn't mean marrying a 12 year old bride or strapping a bomb to your chest.
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There is a certain incoherence in the assumptions behind that question, and it isn't caused by the word "Islam".
pluralism
3. (social sciences) A social system that permits smaller groups within a society to maintain their individual cultural identities.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pluralism
It's the old "melting pot" vs "mixed salad" debate. It's the idea that expecting assimilation from an immigrant is a hate crime.
It's an inherently Progressive ideology, and like most of Progressivism, it's incompatible with Western culture.
If you want to maintain your culture, stay in your own damn country. If you want to be American, well, maybe we'll have a place for you.
As to Islam, Americans have traditionally had more flexibility in the religion arena as opposed to other facets of our culture. Speak English; obey our laws. But, it is perfectly acceptable to practice your own religion as long as that doesn't mean marrying a 12 year old bride or strapping a bomb to your chest.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (R+30W)
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Oh, and withdrawing funds from the UN until they reverse the latest edict on Israeli settlements.
Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (hJamr)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at January 29, 2017 12:48 PM (C9pBZ)
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By screaming so loudly, they are simply confirming that Americans made the right choice.
Posted by: shibumi
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Flack/target relationship.
Posted by: shibumi
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Flack/target relationship.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2017 12:49 PM (NBHj5)
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Um... Jews weren't the only ones killed in the Holocaust, you lefty shitbags.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:49 PM (/x6xU)
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Oh, and Christopher R Taylor, when a 'religion' worships a raping,
caravan robbing, murdering, pedophile warlord as 'the bestest example of
man to mankind for all time', it might not be a 'religion' worth
saving.
When a Christian murders in the name of Christ, that Christian is
not following Christ. When a muzzie murders in the name of Ol' Mo, they
are following his example and are doing the right, just and honorable
thing.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:45 PM (32Cwc)
Christianity - hate the sin, love the sinner. Judge not, lest the be judged. Revenge is best left to the Lord.
Islam - you get to be judge, jury and executioner - and be rewarded for it.
Oh, and Christopher R Taylor, when a 'religion' worships a raping,
caravan robbing, murdering, pedophile warlord as 'the bestest example of
man to mankind for all time', it might not be a 'religion' worth
saving.
When a Christian murders in the name of Christ, that Christian is
not following Christ. When a muzzie murders in the name of Ol' Mo, they
are following his example and are doing the right, just and honorable
thing.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:45 PM (32Cwc)
Christianity - hate the sin, love the sinner. Judge not, lest the be judged. Revenge is best left to the Lord.
Islam - you get to be judge, jury and executioner - and be rewarded for it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2017 12:49 PM (waSFb)
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Folks I'm not trying to argue Islam is a very fine thing. If I meant that I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT. Please read what is said without presuming and adding to it in your head.
All I was doing was examining a way by which Islam could be, with a few changes, be turned into something that would be compatible with western culture.
Remember, as it was formed in 1500, Christianity at large was not compatible with modern western culture and it without question absolutely stated that the faith it believed then was the word of God without possibility of change.
Now again, because apparently the obvious has to be stated overtly, I am not arguing Christianity and Islam are equivalent. Islam is a satanic and evil faith that is destructive and horrific. Did you all read that? Is the English plain enough? Need I repeat myself?
I'm simply pointing out that simply because a religion is at present incompatible with western culture and stated to be the word of God, does not mean it is incapable of ever changing at any point in human history, and I suggested a way it could change.
All I was doing was examining a way by which Islam could be, with a few changes, be turned into something that would be compatible with western culture.
Remember, as it was formed in 1500, Christianity at large was not compatible with modern western culture and it without question absolutely stated that the faith it believed then was the word of God without possibility of change.
Now again, because apparently the obvious has to be stated overtly, I am not arguing Christianity and Islam are equivalent. Islam is a satanic and evil faith that is destructive and horrific. Did you all read that? Is the English plain enough? Need I repeat myself?
I'm simply pointing out that simply because a religion is at present incompatible with western culture and stated to be the word of God, does not mean it is incapable of ever changing at any point in human history, and I suggested a way it could change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
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Um... Jews weren't the only ones killed in the Holocaust, you lefty shitbags.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:49 PM (/x6xU)
Why should facts get in the way of their argument?
Um... Jews weren't the only ones killed in the Holocaust, you lefty shitbags.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2017 12:49 PM (/x6xU)
Why should facts get in the way of their argument?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (waSFb)
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The Left is against the idea of America and its exceptionalism pure and simple. They are the enemy of America as much if not more than Islam.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Amen and amen. This would not even *be* an issue were not terrorists enabled, defended, imported by the Left. This issue was created solely by the left. It's as if they went out, captured a rabid dog, and released it into someone's home. They are more responsible than the dog.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Amen and amen. This would not even *be* an issue were not terrorists enabled, defended, imported by the Left. This issue was created solely by the left. It's as if they went out, captured a rabid dog, and released it into someone's home. They are more responsible than the dog.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (rH4JY)
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138 David Koresh was no Christian .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
That's the point. But he was painted by the government and MSM as a Christian who abused children and married young kids, which he did.
Islam is this times a million and is practiced in dozens of enclaves across America, which are considered no go zones since the W administration. Thus should be in prison or sent. Back to their native countries.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
That's the point. But he was painted by the government and MSM as a Christian who abused children and married young kids, which he did.
Islam is this times a million and is practiced in dozens of enclaves across America, which are considered no go zones since the W administration. Thus should be in prison or sent. Back to their native countries.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (B9BVe)
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David Koresh was no Christian .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
How do you know?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
How do you know?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 29, 2017 12:51 PM (QPdNE)
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>>At various places in the interwebs, the Imam/Mayor of London, Frau Merkl
and Justine Trudeau are all screaming about Trumps ban.
IMHO, these people are puppets of Soros.
Would not be surprised to hear confirmation that Trudeau converted to islam. His closest aide is a muslim immigration activist, he put a Somali in charge of immigration, and spent the holidays vacationing with the Agha Khan:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zkydawp
Heck, if I heard Merkel converted it would make her actions understandable. As it stands, what she's done to her country is inexplicable.
and Justine Trudeau are all screaming about Trumps ban.
IMHO, these people are puppets of Soros.
Would not be surprised to hear confirmation that Trudeau converted to islam. His closest aide is a muslim immigration activist, he put a Somali in charge of immigration, and spent the holidays vacationing with the Agha Khan:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zkydawp
Heck, if I heard Merkel converted it would make her actions understandable. As it stands, what she's done to her country is inexplicable.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2017 12:52 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 12:52 PM (4bKiB)
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I'm simply pointing out that simply because a religion is at present incompatible with western culture and stated to be the word of God, does not mean it is incapable of ever changing at any point in human history, and I suggested a way it could change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
You're an Infidel, so your recommendations mean diddly to the Ummah.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
You're an Infidel, so your recommendations mean diddly to the Ummah.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (32Cwc)
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It can't co-exist. And where it is overwhelmingly dominant, it is a harsh, cruel, backward existence.
Posted by: Lizzy
Um... yes it can. Maybe you should get an eye exam, but the last time I checked, the "Coexist" sign had a crescent moon.
Posted by: Lizzy
Um... yes it can. Maybe you should get an eye exam, but the last time I checked, the "Coexist" sign had a crescent moon.
Posted by: Bono at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (rH4JY)
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How do you know?
There is a possibility he may have at the end of his life changed, but what we know of his confession, beliefs, and behavior were absolutely not Christian.
Kind of like President Obama.
There is a possibility he may have at the end of his life changed, but what we know of his confession, beliefs, and behavior were absolutely not Christian.
Kind of like President Obama.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)
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As a male, Islam would be great for me.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (w7KSn)
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169
As a male, Islam would be great for me.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (w7KSn)
And bacon. Don't forget you lose out on bacon.
As a male, Islam would be great for me.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (w7KSn)
And bacon. Don't forget you lose out on bacon.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2017 12:54 PM (waSFb)
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You're an Infidel, so your recommendations mean diddly to the Ummah.
If you're unable to consider ideas for themselves and the implications of those ideas, this may not be the blog for you.
If you're unable to consider ideas for themselves and the implications of those ideas, this may not be the blog for you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)
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13
The school director said that it was good there was student opposition
to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."
Translation:
Anti-Semitic teacher encourages students to be anti-semitic under the
guise of "tolerance" with assistance from 'islam.'
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (J5mC3)
Strange , as most "discussions" about the holocaust are crimes in germany.
The school director said that it was good there was student opposition
to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."
Translation:
Anti-Semitic teacher encourages students to be anti-semitic under the
guise of "tolerance" with assistance from 'islam.'
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:00 PM (J5mC3)
Strange , as most "discussions" about the holocaust are crimes in germany.
Posted by: local news at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (1isJI)
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I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
That's the punishment of Islam: all those wives, no liquor.
I would miss all the boozing.
That's the punishment of Islam: all those wives, no liquor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (aZq03)
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David Koresh was no Christian .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
How do you know?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 29, 2017 12:51 PM (QPdNE)
Didn't he claim to *be* Christ at one point?
Or was that just said about him?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
How do you know?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 29, 2017 12:51 PM (QPdNE)
Didn't he claim to *be* Christ at one point?
Or was that just said about him?
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (3Liv/)
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As a male, Islam would be great for me.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (w7KSn)
Trade-offs.
But there is the very good possibility you get to go out with a bang. So there's that.
I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (w7KSn)
Trade-offs.
But there is the very good possibility you get to go out with a bang. So there's that.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (32Cwc)
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That would free the religion to a basic set of moral codes and behavioral procedures lacking the crazy and awful stuff. The problem is, that also eliminates all the cultural Arabic stuff that attracts them so greatly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (39g3+)
You don't get it. Most of the evil shit came straight from mohammed himself.
islam delenda est
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:19 PM (39g3+)
You don't get it. Most of the evil shit came straight from mohammed himself.
islam delenda est
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (LRVnP)
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May PB and J be upon you.
Posted by: Allan the Headless Goatherder at January 29, 2017 12:56 PM (Tyii7)
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I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
***
The word alcohol comes from Arabic. Generally all the rules of Islam are optional as long as you are expanding Islam.
I would miss all the boozing.
***
The word alcohol comes from Arabic. Generally all the rules of Islam are optional as long as you are expanding Islam.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 12:56 PM (aZq03)
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Didn't he claim to *be* Christ at one point?
Or was that just said about him?
At this point... who knows? Almost all we know about the guy was from Janet Reno's office and the legacy media. Their track record was not exactly great.
Related: how many "evil cult leaders" and "militia leaders" do you think would have been killed by a Hillary administration?
Or was that just said about him?
At this point... who knows? Almost all we know about the guy was from Janet Reno's office and the legacy media. Their track record was not exactly great.
Related: how many "evil cult leaders" and "militia leaders" do you think would have been killed by a Hillary administration?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:57 PM (39g3+)
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165 the koran because it is the literal word of Allan
If *only* there were an Arabic Monty Python.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 12:52 PM (4bKiB)
He is NOT the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
If *only* there were an Arabic Monty Python.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 12:52 PM (4bKiB)
He is NOT the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 29, 2017 12:58 PM (EnKk6)
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You don't get it. Most of the evil shit came straight from mohammed himself.
***
To paraphrase - nothing good in Islam is new, and nothing new in Islam is good.
***
To paraphrase - nothing good in Islam is new, and nothing new in Islam is good.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 12:58 PM (aZq03)
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islam is irreformable. It is what it is and that is a nasty, belligerent, aggressive, violent political ideology of theft, murder and the total subjugation (submission) of all. WIthout that ... it just isn't islam in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 12:35 PM (zc3Db)
Yup....Irreformable. Just like Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Commie Russia.
Destroy it or it will destroy you. There is no "middle"ground.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 12:35 PM (zc3Db)
Yup....Irreformable. Just like Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Commie Russia.
Destroy it or it will destroy you. There is no "middle"ground.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 12:59 PM (5VlCp)
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If you're unable to consider ideas for themselves and the implications of those ideas, this may not be the blog for you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)
You're having a circle jerk, dorm room midnight bullshit session with yourself. Seriously, if you haven't groked onto the fact that islam has been in perpetual war against all comers since its inception, I don't know what to tell you.
Peace, love and spare change is not going to cut it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:54 PM (39g3+)
You're having a circle jerk, dorm room midnight bullshit session with yourself. Seriously, if you haven't groked onto the fact that islam has been in perpetual war against all comers since its inception, I don't know what to tell you.
Peace, love and spare change is not going to cut it.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:59 PM (32Cwc)
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132
ICYMI, Tim Kaine, on this morning with Chuck Todd, referring to the lack
of the word "Jew" in Trump's Holocaust Remembrance speech:
"This is what Holocaust denial is"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (SEXy3)
So Trumps unequaled support of Israel means nothing to the fakenewsers?
Doublethink moar presstitutes.
ICYMI, Tim Kaine, on this morning with Chuck Todd, referring to the lack
of the word "Jew" in Trump's Holocaust Remembrance speech:
"This is what Holocaust denial is"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (SEXy3)
So Trumps unequaled support of Israel means nothing to the fakenewsers?
Doublethink moar presstitutes.
Posted by: local news at January 29, 2017 12:59 PM (1isJI)
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Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you? Pisslam cannot 'reform' the koran because it is the literal word of Allan. Not every religion should get a trophy. The 'religion' of pisslam needs to be left to its own devices in its own lands, not fomenting war in ours.
Posted by: RickZ
Hello Allah. Hello Mahdi.
Here I am at.
Camp Jihadi.
Camp is helping me to grow up.
And they say I'll get the virgins when I blow up.
Seriously, just how much of pajama boy are you? Pisslam cannot 'reform' the koran because it is the literal word of Allan. Not every religion should get a trophy. The 'religion' of pisslam needs to be left to its own devices in its own lands, not fomenting war in ours.
Posted by: RickZ
Hello Allah. Hello Mahdi.
Here I am at.
Camp Jihadi.
Camp is helping me to grow up.
And they say I'll get the virgins when I blow up.
Posted by: Allan Sherman at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (rH4JY)
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You're an Infidel, so your recommendations mean diddly to the Ummah.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (32Cwc)
Chill out.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 12:53 PM (32Cwc)
Chill out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (4ErVI)
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RickZ: The Torah is the literal word of G-d yet Reform and Conservative Judaism exist. I'm not drawing a moral equivalency between the two but for 5,000 years Judaism meant following the Torah to a T, which simply isn't done by a large percentage of Jews (including yours truly.)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (+PEqr)
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Oh, because I'm a terrible troll, I should leave this here:
http://tinyurl.com/gvee75x
David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
Dhimmitude wasn't all that bad, he says:
The result of the conquests was, by and large, to make the Jews second-class citizens. This should not be misunderstood: to be a second-class citizen was a far better thing to be than not to be a citizen at all.
It was pretty darn awesome in practice:
The societies of Islam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues - in theory - and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion.
At least, as long as Muslims were in the minority, he admits.
There's also the assumption that Judaism depends upon a strong non-Jewish state to survive. Creating a sovereign Jewish state (or whatever you want to call the Khazaristan and/or the Yemenite "Rahman" states) doesn't enter his mind. If Wasserstein is observant (I suspect he isn't) then his argument claims that Islam is G*d's sword on the Jews' behalf.
http://tinyurl.com/gvee75x
David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
Dhimmitude wasn't all that bad, he says:
The result of the conquests was, by and large, to make the Jews second-class citizens. This should not be misunderstood: to be a second-class citizen was a far better thing to be than not to be a citizen at all.
It was pretty darn awesome in practice:
The societies of Islam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues - in theory - and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion.
At least, as long as Muslims were in the minority, he admits.
There's also the assumption that Judaism depends upon a strong non-Jewish state to survive. Creating a sovereign Jewish state (or whatever you want to call the Khazaristan and/or the Yemenite "Rahman" states) doesn't enter his mind. If Wasserstein is observant (I suspect he isn't) then his argument claims that Islam is G*d's sword on the Jews' behalf.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (6FqZa)
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As a male, Islam would be great for me.
***
The original point of Islam was to unite the various Arabic warlords so they would stop fighting each other, and Muhammed could then use them to fight his enemies - who were Jewish and pagan Arabs.
As such it promises the world to warriors and potential warriors.
***
The original point of Islam was to unite the various Arabic warlords so they would stop fighting each other, and Muhammed could then use them to fight his enemies - who were Jewish and pagan Arabs.
As such it promises the world to warriors and potential warriors.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (aZq03)
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I am getting a kick out of all the gnashing of teeth from the Leftists on this very small immigration order.
Its pretty funny how the stories are framed as if we are required to let in every immigrant that wants to come. I saw a sob story on some chick who said she wanted to come to the US to study physics. Too bad, so sad, go to France.
I am getting a kick out of all the gnashing of teeth from the Leftists on this very small immigration order.
Its pretty funny how the stories are framed as if we are required to let in every immigrant that wants to come. I saw a sob story on some chick who said she wanted to come to the US to study physics. Too bad, so sad, go to France.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (ODxAs)
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I always wondered if the Coen brothers snuck Islam in The Big Lebowski with the character "Jesus" who was a pedophile of 8 year olds. Jesus is a violent aggressive enforcer of Islam in their end times.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (B9BVe)
193
173 I could have multiple wives, slaves, booty.
I would miss all the boozing.
That's the punishment of Islam: all those wives, no liquor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (39g3+)
You get one night on the town before u go 'splodey.
I would miss all the boozing.
That's the punishment of Islam: all those wives, no liquor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:55 PM (39g3+)
You get one night on the town before u go 'splodey.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (Kz5ms)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
You seem to miss one of the main points:
Christianity, coming out of Judaism, was an individualistic religion from the very start (as Judaism was the first individualistic creed in a world of nothing but tribalism). Judaism and Christianity both raised the individual to sacred status - each individual person is made in G-d's image - and addressed individual responsibilities and actions.
islam, on the other hand, is a firmly and irretrievably tribal ideology. The individual has no place in islam, other than his use as a weapon of the ideology (a literal weapon!). You cannot just wave your hands and have a tribal ideology change to an individualistic one with a few changing interpretations. It just doesn't work that way.
The West is individualistic and any ideology that is opposed to individualism will not ever find common ground with the West. islam is in that camp ... but it's nasty and violent, on top of it all.
There is no reformation of islam possible that will bring it into line, or compatible in any wya, with any individualistic society. This is fundamental.
You seem to miss one of the main points:
Christianity, coming out of Judaism, was an individualistic religion from the very start (as Judaism was the first individualistic creed in a world of nothing but tribalism). Judaism and Christianity both raised the individual to sacred status - each individual person is made in G-d's image - and addressed individual responsibilities and actions.
islam, on the other hand, is a firmly and irretrievably tribal ideology. The individual has no place in islam, other than his use as a weapon of the ideology (a literal weapon!). You cannot just wave your hands and have a tribal ideology change to an individualistic one with a few changing interpretations. It just doesn't work that way.
The West is individualistic and any ideology that is opposed to individualism will not ever find common ground with the West. islam is in that camp ... but it's nasty and violent, on top of it all.
There is no reformation of islam possible that will bring it into line, or compatible in any wya, with any individualistic society. This is fundamental.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (zc3Db)
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The muslim world, including the muslims in Western countries, only became more radicalized after 9/11. Instead of giving them pause, a chance to reflect & ask what exactly is going on in islam, watching thousands of people get slaughtered one morning only made them bolder.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 01:02 PM (7qAYi)
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good day all. I just sent an encouraging note on wh.gov to Pres. Do you think he will read it?
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 01:03 PM (8mO0Q)
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About Christian refugees from Syria.
This is beyond fake news. It's a lie that I've seen several times in the last few days on MSM. Here's one example:
WaPo gives Trump Two Pinochios for saying that it is "very tough" for Syrian Christians to become refugees in the United States, and that they have been "horribly treated," even though WaPo admits "that a relatively small percentage of Syrian refugees have been admitted," even giving the 2016 figures which show 89 Christians out of 15,134 Syrian refugees, the rest Muslims.
WaPo sell this whopper by saying that it's not true for refugees from Iran, even though Trump's statement is expressly about Syria.
WaPo digs an even deeper hole by saying that "no one understands why there is such a disparity," when it's common knowledge that we've outsourced our refugee process to the UN and Christians (and Yazidis) don't go into the UN camps in Syria because the Muslims there will kill them when they sleep.
This is beyond fake news. It's a lie that I've seen several times in the last few days on MSM. Here's one example:
WaPo gives Trump Two Pinochios for saying that it is "very tough" for Syrian Christians to become refugees in the United States, and that they have been "horribly treated," even though WaPo admits "that a relatively small percentage of Syrian refugees have been admitted," even giving the 2016 figures which show 89 Christians out of 15,134 Syrian refugees, the rest Muslims.
WaPo sell this whopper by saying that it's not true for refugees from Iran, even though Trump's statement is expressly about Syria.
WaPo digs an even deeper hole by saying that "no one understands why there is such a disparity," when it's common knowledge that we've outsourced our refugee process to the UN and Christians (and Yazidis) don't go into the UN camps in Syria because the Muslims there will kill them when they sleep.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:03 PM (bQxkN)
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Speaking of unibrowed, one-note, circus clowns
I had not even thought of Jennifer Rubin since the election. Apparently she has gone full spittle-flecked , moonbat, retard.
Here's some of THIS weeks greatest hits. You know. The Winningest Pro-Life, Pro-Military, Pro-Immigration Enforcement, Pro-Law Enforcement, Pro-Freedom week in about 40 years?
++
An economy on the brink of ... ?
Trump and his advisers seem stuck in the 1980s, which won't help U.S. productivity. Jan 29, 2017
++
Distinguished pol of the week == (Pic of Grinnin 'Miss Lindsay' Graham) == Who stood out? Jan 29, 2017
++
Trump's base-pleasing antics create firestorm
Trump and crew make a mess Jan 28, 2017
++
Trump contemplates a one-sided deal in which Russia wins Congress has to stop him. Jan 27, 2017
++
WaPo has got some serious Kool Aid over there.
If what Jen Rubin is selling is "Conservatism"? I don't want any.
I had not even thought of Jennifer Rubin since the election. Apparently she has gone full spittle-flecked , moonbat, retard.
Here's some of THIS weeks greatest hits. You know. The Winningest Pro-Life, Pro-Military, Pro-Immigration Enforcement, Pro-Law Enforcement, Pro-Freedom week in about 40 years?
++
An economy on the brink of ... ?
Trump and his advisers seem stuck in the 1980s, which won't help U.S. productivity. Jan 29, 2017
++
Distinguished pol of the week == (Pic of Grinnin 'Miss Lindsay' Graham) == Who stood out? Jan 29, 2017
++
Trump's base-pleasing antics create firestorm
Trump and crew make a mess Jan 28, 2017
++
Trump contemplates a one-sided deal in which Russia wins Congress has to stop him. Jan 27, 2017
++
WaPo has got some serious Kool Aid over there.
If what Jen Rubin is selling is "Conservatism"? I don't want any.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 01:03 PM (Gv7El)
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David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
***
By the time Islam conquered the Levant, Jews had been living under other religions for hundreds of years already. In fact, they had been living under Christian Byzantium for about 300 years. They were still there and not in need of "saving".
Looking at the modern world though, the Jewish communities throughout the now Muslim world are pretty much all gone.
David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
***
By the time Islam conquered the Levant, Jews had been living under other religions for hundreds of years already. In fact, they had been living under Christian Byzantium for about 300 years. They were still there and not in need of "saving".
Looking at the modern world though, the Jewish communities throughout the now Muslim world are pretty much all gone.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 01:04 PM (aZq03)
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At this point... who knows? Almost all we know about the guy was from
Janet Reno's office and the legacy media. Their track record was not
exactly great.
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Agreed.
I recall there was video that showed up in every broadcast during the siege of him teaching *something*, but I don't recall the dialogue from that.
I do recall it being frequently mentioned that he claimed to be Christ returned, I just don't remember if I ever heard him say that in that video.
Or I could be conflating that situation with the guy from Korea, but it's been so long, I'm just not sure.
Janet Reno's office and the legacy media. Their track record was not
exactly great.
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Agreed.
I recall there was video that showed up in every broadcast during the siege of him teaching *something*, but I don't recall the dialogue from that.
I do recall it being frequently mentioned that he claimed to be Christ returned, I just don't remember if I ever heard him say that in that video.
Or I could be conflating that situation with the guy from Korea, but it's been so long, I'm just not sure.
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2017 01:05 PM (3Liv/)
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Going to a more literal interpretation of the Koran would be counterproductive.
Posted by: sunny-dee at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (QAOZh)
Precisely. ISIS, and the mo-bro, are the reform movement in islam.
Posted by: sunny-dee at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (QAOZh)
Precisely. ISIS, and the mo-bro, are the reform movement in islam.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 01:06 PM (LRVnP)
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Hi Horde!
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:06 PM (ByNzS)
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What constitutional rights do Muslims from other countries have showing up on our shores? Where is media coverage for those of us Wanting strict vetting for those coming in? What is the reason we are now back to knuckling under to liberals and crying for folks detained at the airport? Chuck you Shumer said we would NOT be giving preference to Christian " refugees"--I guess we give preference to those 24 year old male "children" Muslim refugees?
Posted by: AnnaS at January 29, 2017 01:06 PM (Jh/vN)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 01:07 PM (Gv7El)
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The individual has no place in islam, other than his use as a weapon of the ideology
In one sense, yes, but at its core Islam is the observation of five very basic acts:
Charity to fellow Muslims
Trip to Mecca at least once
Pray 5 times a day toward Mecca
Declare Allah to be the only god and Muhammad his prophet
Fast on Ramadan
So in another sense it is very individual. Those literally are all you have to do to be a Muslim and make it to paradise (eventually). Death in jihad is merely an express train to paradise -- everyone goes to hell, but the faithful only a short time to pay for their sins in life, then they go to paradise.
Keep in mind that Roman Catholicism was an all-encompassing system of government, art, education, science, philosophy, etc until the Reformation as well.
But the tribal Arabic aspects of Islam are probably the greatest barrier to any sort of beneficial change to the religion, I agree.
In one sense, yes, but at its core Islam is the observation of five very basic acts:
Charity to fellow Muslims
Trip to Mecca at least once
Pray 5 times a day toward Mecca
Declare Allah to be the only god and Muhammad his prophet
Fast on Ramadan
So in another sense it is very individual. Those literally are all you have to do to be a Muslim and make it to paradise (eventually). Death in jihad is merely an express train to paradise -- everyone goes to hell, but the faithful only a short time to pay for their sins in life, then they go to paradise.
Keep in mind that Roman Catholicism was an all-encompassing system of government, art, education, science, philosophy, etc until the Reformation as well.
But the tribal Arabic aspects of Islam are probably the greatest barrier to any sort of beneficial change to the religion, I agree.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2017 01:07 PM (4b0RA)
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#186: Hilarious!
Posted by: Pet Pal at January 29, 2017 01:08 PM (9NAis)
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Islamic Oil Money has bought and paid for all Western Politicians, and in return, they will just sit back and count their money as we are all forced under the Scimitar of Shari'ah.
Posted by: Hikaru at January 29, 2017 01:08 PM (eriW1)
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"This is what Holocaust denial is"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (SEXy3)
Trump spoke of "innocent people", which certainly includes Jews. I guess Tim Kaine figures Jews aren't people.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 12:42 PM (SEXy3)
Trump spoke of "innocent people", which certainly includes Jews. I guess Tim Kaine figures Jews aren't people.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 01:08 PM (LRVnP)
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Hello Allah. Hello Mahdi.
Here I am at.
Camp Jihadi.
Camp is helping me to grow up.
And they say I'll get the virgins when I blow up.
Posted by: Allan Sherman at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (rH4JY)
My Son the Volkssturmer
Hello Allah. Hello Mahdi.
Here I am at.
Camp Jihadi.
Camp is helping me to grow up.
And they say I'll get the virgins when I blow up.
Posted by: Allan Sherman at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (rH4JY)
My Son the Volkssturmer
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 29, 2017 01:08 PM (EnKk6)
211
What country can I go to where they will give me all the welfare I want?
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:09 PM (ByNzS)
212
201
Precisely. ISIS, and the mo-bro, are the reform movement in islam.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 01:06 PM (LRVnP)
Yep.
A version of Islam oriented toward peace and tolerance would not be Islam at all.
Precisely. ISIS, and the mo-bro, are the reform movement in islam.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 01:06 PM (LRVnP)
Yep.
A version of Islam oriented toward peace and tolerance would not be Islam at all.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 01:09 PM (sdi6R)
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There is no reformation of islam possible that will bring it into line, or compatible in any wya, with any individualistic society. This is fundamental.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (zc3Db)
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Excellent point about the individualism versus tribal aspect.
[Same reason why there is currently a civil war in the U.S. between the right and the left ...]
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (zc3Db)
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Excellent point about the individualism versus tribal aspect.
[Same reason why there is currently a civil war in the U.S. between the right and the left ...]
Posted by: ShainS at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (mt8X9)
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Looking at the modern world though, the Jewish communities throughout the now Muslim world are pretty much all gone.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 01:04 PM (aZq03)
Yup...and not a peep from our "leaders" or the MSM.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2017 01:04 PM (aZq03)
Yup...and not a peep from our "leaders" or the MSM.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (5VlCp)
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Yup....Irreformable. Just like Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Commie Russia.
Destroy it or it will destroy you. There is no "middle"ground.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
The ideologies are all irreformable. But the fascist/totalitarian phases you listed all lasted a relatively short time (the longest, USSR lasted 70 years). Those countries were basically experiencing an aberration.
Islam on the other hand has been that way for millennia. I'm not sure that all of those societies can be rebuilt the way Germany and Japan were. I think the best course for them is quarantine. Although for converts, dissidents, people who are properly vetted and will contribute positively, sure, I have nothing per se against immigration, although I would never say they have a *right* to emigrate.
But as for the hell holes and hotbeds of terrorism. Quarantine them and let them fester.
Destroy it or it will destroy you. There is no "middle"ground.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
The ideologies are all irreformable. But the fascist/totalitarian phases you listed all lasted a relatively short time (the longest, USSR lasted 70 years). Those countries were basically experiencing an aberration.
Islam on the other hand has been that way for millennia. I'm not sure that all of those societies can be rebuilt the way Germany and Japan were. I think the best course for them is quarantine. Although for converts, dissidents, people who are properly vetted and will contribute positively, sure, I have nothing per se against immigration, although I would never say they have a *right* to emigrate.
But as for the hell holes and hotbeds of terrorism. Quarantine them and let them fester.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (rH4JY)
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RickZ: The Torah is the literal word of G-d yet Reform and Conservative Judaism exist. I'm not drawing a moral equivalency between the two but for 5,000 years Judaism meant following the Torah to a T, which simply isn't done by a large percentage of Jews (including yours truly.)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (+PEqr)
Judaism never advocated the takeover of the world. NEVER. In the Torah, the Jews were only given a small slice of land by G-d (as you know) and that was the only place that Jewish Law was ever to rule over. One, small, limited slice of land. No more than that. Ever. And even there the restrictions of Jewish Law almost exclusively applied only to Jews.
There was never any need for any reformation of a religion that didn't seek unlimited expansion and generally, though always open to converts, never sought them out (and even made it difficult for one to convert into the religion - a real chore, though always possible).
Many of the laws in the Torah were only abandoned because they no longer had any applications after the Temple(s) were destroyed.
Interpretations of what was written in the Torah was always a big Jewish thing, too - hence the Talmud - again, as I'm sure you're aware of.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (+PEqr)
Judaism never advocated the takeover of the world. NEVER. In the Torah, the Jews were only given a small slice of land by G-d (as you know) and that was the only place that Jewish Law was ever to rule over. One, small, limited slice of land. No more than that. Ever. And even there the restrictions of Jewish Law almost exclusively applied only to Jews.
There was never any need for any reformation of a religion that didn't seek unlimited expansion and generally, though always open to converts, never sought them out (and even made it difficult for one to convert into the religion - a real chore, though always possible).
Many of the laws in the Torah were only abandoned because they no longer had any applications after the Temple(s) were destroyed.
Interpretations of what was written in the Torah was always a big Jewish thing, too - hence the Talmud - again, as I'm sure you're aware of.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (zc3Db)
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Fuck Islam, it should be illegal in the west. Its incompatible.
Reason #1289 why there are no pajama boys in metal. Saxon's Crusader
Crusader, Crusader, please take me with you
The battle lies far to the East
Crusader, Crusader, don't leave me alone
I want to ride out on your Quest
I'm waiting, I'm waiting, to stand by your side
To fight with you over the sea
The're calling, they're calling, I have to be there
The Holy Land has to be free
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
We're marching, we're marching to a land far from home
No-one can say who'll return
For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagan from out of the East
We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by Faith and the cause
The Saracen heathen will soon taste our steel
Our standards will rise 'cross the land
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
To battle, to battle, the Saracen hordes
We follow the warrior king
Onward, ride onward, into the fight
We carry the sign of the cross
Warlords of England, Knights of the Realm
Spilling their blood in the sand
Crusader, Crusader, the legend is born
The future will honour your deeds
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Did I mention fuck islam??
Reason #1289 why there are no pajama boys in metal. Saxon's Crusader
Crusader, Crusader, please take me with you
The battle lies far to the East
Crusader, Crusader, don't leave me alone
I want to ride out on your Quest
I'm waiting, I'm waiting, to stand by your side
To fight with you over the sea
The're calling, they're calling, I have to be there
The Holy Land has to be free
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
We're marching, we're marching to a land far from home
No-one can say who'll return
For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagan from out of the East
We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by Faith and the cause
The Saracen heathen will soon taste our steel
Our standards will rise 'cross the land
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
To battle, to battle, the Saracen hordes
We follow the warrior king
Onward, ride onward, into the fight
We carry the sign of the cross
Warlords of England, Knights of the Realm
Spilling their blood in the sand
Crusader, Crusader, the legend is born
The future will honour your deeds
Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, Lord of the Realm
Did I mention fuck islam??
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (aMlLZ)
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Looking at the modern world though, the Jewish communities throughout the now Muslim world are pretty much all gone.
For a long time in the middle east, Jews were living among Muslims in nations like Iraq and especially Iran. until the late 20th century, Islam had become kind of a cultural thing, a nod to their tradition but not really followed all that rigorously behind the basics (5 pillars). Iran had a very large Jewish community, left over from the exile to Persia. Queen Esther was actually beloved by Iranian (Persian) culture. Until recently
For a long time in the middle east, Jews were living among Muslims in nations like Iraq and especially Iran. until the late 20th century, Islam had become kind of a cultural thing, a nod to their tradition but not really followed all that rigorously behind the basics (5 pillars). Iran had a very large Jewish community, left over from the exile to Persia. Queen Esther was actually beloved by Iranian (Persian) culture. Until recently
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
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I didn't watch Kaine, NDH, but I did see Todd question Priebus about the lack of the word Jew in the Tweet. Of course the Tweet absolutely supersedes the efforts the admin is making to rebuild our relationship with Israel, to include moving the American embassy to Jerusalem.
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As someone in my TL said "They must have been terribly confused as to which Holocaust he was commemorating"
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As someone in my TL said "They must have been terribly confused as to which Holocaust he was commemorating"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (SEXy3)
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The muslim world, including the muslims in Western countries, only became more radicalized after 9/11.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 01:02 PM (7qAYi)
Yep.
But that's because we let them.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 01:02 PM (7qAYi)
Yep.
But that's because we let them.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (zc3Db)
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So the Vagina Hat crowd is going to have to stash those Vagina Hats so as not to offend the refugees unless they convert them to Vagina Burkas.
Can't we set up a refugee camp in Manhattan, say in the Metropolitan Museum of Art?
Can't we set up a refugee camp in Manhattan, say in the Metropolitan Museum of Art?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:13 PM (n3MnG)
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David Koresh was no Christian .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
He was a pedophile.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 12:44 PM (Xrson)
He was a pedophile.
Posted by: B. Kliban at January 29, 2017 01:13 PM (dargh)
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Interpretations of what was written in the Torah was always a big Jewish thing, too - hence the Talmud - again, as I'm sure you're aware of.
Yeah, Judaism and Christianity are the only two religions in the world I'm aware of that encourage and enjoy constant discussion, debate, analysis, and study of the faith. Even argument and fistfights (St Nicholas punched out Arius before the council of Nicea for example!)
Yeah, Judaism and Christianity are the only two religions in the world I'm aware of that encourage and enjoy constant discussion, debate, analysis, and study of the faith. Even argument and fistfights (St Nicholas punched out Arius before the council of Nicea for example!)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:13 PM (39g3+)
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Remember, as it was formed in 1500, Christianity at large was not compatible with modern western culture and it without question absolutely stated that the faith it believed then was the word of God without possibility of change.
Maybe in 600 years they will evolved enough to issue visas.
Maybe in 600 years they will evolved enough to issue visas.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 29, 2017 01:14 PM (P/kVC)
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@223, wait, Santa Claus?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (n3MnG)
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Enrique Pena Nieto, the current president of Mexico, gave a short speech on Twitter, where he states that he doesn't like what Trump did, Mexico won't pay a penny towards the wall, and that the obligation for Mexico is to protect the rights of its citizens, both at home and abroad, and to make sure they are protected. Also, he stated that any negotiation with the US would assure that the rights and safety of citizens of his country are ensured.
A) Except for the comments about paying for the wall, this is what Trump was saying;
2) I am relieved and encouraged that the president of Mexico has finally come to this conclusion about the correct purpose of government and had finally shed the mantel of master and lord of the Mexican people as the head of its bureaucracy and become instead the first citizen of his country and champion for their rights;
III) I hope the presidents of Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, El Salvador Belize and Panama also find this to be self evident and address el presidente Enrique Pena Nieto over these same issues; and
3A) for some reason there is no English version, translation, or other element to help those who are not bilingual in Spanish or only speak one of the other languages of his transnational world. SAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3t2bNx_Of4
A) Except for the comments about paying for the wall, this is what Trump was saying;
2) I am relieved and encouraged that the president of Mexico has finally come to this conclusion about the correct purpose of government and had finally shed the mantel of master and lord of the Mexican people as the head of its bureaucracy and become instead the first citizen of his country and champion for their rights;
III) I hope the presidents of Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, El Salvador Belize and Panama also find this to be self evident and address el presidente Enrique Pena Nieto over these same issues; and
3A) for some reason there is no English version, translation, or other element to help those who are not bilingual in Spanish or only speak one of the other languages of his transnational world. SAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3t2bNx_Of4
Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (BVxQW)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (bQxkN)
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Can't we set up a refugee camp in Manhattan, say in the Metropolitan Museum of Art?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:13 PM (n3MnG)
Can I rescue Segovia's guitars , Stradivari's violins, and the suits of armor and weapons first?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:13 PM (n3MnG)
Can I rescue Segovia's guitars , Stradivari's violins, and the suits of armor and weapons first?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 01:16 PM (aMlLZ)
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189 Oh, because I'm a terrible troll, I should leave this here:
http://tinyurl.com/gvee75x
David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
Dhimmitude wasn't all that bad, he says:
The result of the conquests was, by and large, to make the Jews second-class citizens. This should not be misunderstood: to be a second-class citizen was a far better thing to be than not to be a citizen at all.
It was pretty darn awesome in practice:
The societies of Islam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues - in theory - and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion.
At least, as long as Muslims were in the minority, he admits.
There's also the assumption that Judaism depends upon a strong non-Jewish state to survive. Creating a sovereign Jewish state (or whatever you want to call the Khazaristan and/or the Yemenite "Rahman" states) doesn't enter his mind. If Wasserstein is observant (I suspect he isn't) then his argument claims that Islam is G*d's sword on the Jews' behalf.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (6FqZa)
It's fair to talk about political Zionism using Global Governance, which Global Governance as the main instrument to be used is the definition that was founded on in 1896 (people that are so powerful and wealthy we could never comprehend) and the implications it had on the Jewish people, who were obviously less powerful and influencial, during the first half of the 20th century.
The same would hold true with the top officials in the Catholic Church recently coding up with Islam and the effects it has had on Christians world wide.
The point is there seems to be a disconnent based on class and caste between those in favor and the power brokers of Global Governance and the rest of the population.
http://tinyurl.com/gvee75x
David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
Dhimmitude wasn't all that bad, he says:
The result of the conquests was, by and large, to make the Jews second-class citizens. This should not be misunderstood: to be a second-class citizen was a far better thing to be than not to be a citizen at all.
It was pretty darn awesome in practice:
The societies of Islam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues - in theory - and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion.
At least, as long as Muslims were in the minority, he admits.
There's also the assumption that Judaism depends upon a strong non-Jewish state to survive. Creating a sovereign Jewish state (or whatever you want to call the Khazaristan and/or the Yemenite "Rahman" states) doesn't enter his mind. If Wasserstein is observant (I suspect he isn't) then his argument claims that Islam is G*d's sword on the Jews' behalf.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 01:00 PM (6FqZa)
It's fair to talk about political Zionism using Global Governance, which Global Governance as the main instrument to be used is the definition that was founded on in 1896 (people that are so powerful and wealthy we could never comprehend) and the implications it had on the Jewish people, who were obviously less powerful and influencial, during the first half of the 20th century.
The same would hold true with the top officials in the Catholic Church recently coding up with Islam and the effects it has had on Christians world wide.
The point is there seems to be a disconnent based on class and caste between those in favor and the power brokers of Global Governance and the rest of the population.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 01:16 PM (B9BVe)
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But as for the hell holes and hotbeds of terrorism. Quarantine them and let them fester.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (rH4JY)
Yup...after we eliminate a whole bunch of those in charge and reduce their enclaves to just above stone age standards, I can live with quarantining them.
With an occasional Arc-Light strike just to remind them every now and then when they get uppity.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:10 PM (rH4JY)
Yup...after we eliminate a whole bunch of those in charge and reduce their enclaves to just above stone age standards, I can live with quarantining them.
With an occasional Arc-Light strike just to remind them every now and then when they get uppity.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:17 PM (5VlCp)
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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
Rather the reverse. Islam is incompatible with Western Pluralistic Societies
Rather the reverse. Islam is incompatible with Western Pluralistic Societies
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 01:18 PM (pD45z)
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Yup...after we eliminate a whole bunch of those in charge and reduce their enclaves to just above stone age standards, I can live with quarantining them.
With an occasional Arc-Light strike just to remind them every now and then when they get uppity.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:17 PM (5VlCp)
Awesome...
With an occasional Arc-Light strike just to remind them every now and then when they get uppity.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:17 PM (5VlCp)
Awesome...
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 01:19 PM (aMlLZ)
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Tribal barbarism with extreme prejudice is not what one should consider civilized. Look at the insane savagery perpetrated against their own women as your first sign.
Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2017 01:19 PM (FmNHR)
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https://tinyurl.com/gv8dehk
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'Listen more!': Kellyanne clobbers media for the administration's 'gaping, seeping wounds' and says TV networks should FIRE pundits who called the election wrong and donated to Hillary
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 01:19 PM (y3aQB)
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For a long time in the middle east, Jews were living among Muslims in nations like Iraq and especially Iran. until the late 20th century, Islam had become kind of a cultural thing, a nod to their tradition but not really followed all that rigorously behind the basics (5 pillars). Iran had a very large Jewish community, left over from the exile to Persia. Queen Esther was actually beloved by Iranian (Persian) culture. Until recently
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
Jews were generally emptied out of the arab/persian world after the establishment of Israel and the War of Independence. 750,000 Jews left the arab world then (most forced out but many choosing to leave, too) and doubled the existing population in Israel of about 750,000 ashkenazi Jews.
At the turn of the 20th century, Baghdad had been a pretty happening place and was around 1/4 Jews. After 1948 I don't think there were more than a few hundred left. By the time we got to Iraq in the Gulf War there were only 8 or 9 Jewish families left in Baghdad ... something like that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
Jews were generally emptied out of the arab/persian world after the establishment of Israel and the War of Independence. 750,000 Jews left the arab world then (most forced out but many choosing to leave, too) and doubled the existing population in Israel of about 750,000 ashkenazi Jews.
At the turn of the 20th century, Baghdad had been a pretty happening place and was around 1/4 Jews. After 1948 I don't think there were more than a few hundred left. By the time we got to Iraq in the Gulf War there were only 8 or 9 Jewish families left in Baghdad ... something like that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:20 PM (zc3Db)
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As someone in my TL said "They must have been terribly confused as to which Holocaust he was commemorating"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (
To be fair, The Armenian Genocide by the Young Turks was called a Holocaust until sometime after WWII ended. So when speaking to the world Armenians and others may still consider those 1.5 million killed as a Holocaust.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:11 PM (
To be fair, The Armenian Genocide by the Young Turks was called a Holocaust until sometime after WWII ended. So when speaking to the world Armenians and others may still consider those 1.5 million killed as a Holocaust.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (B9BVe)
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The problem is all the kindness, caring and ethical behavior is only extended to fellow Muslims. All others are fair game to commit any sort of atrocity against. In fact such acts are condoned.
Posted by: Molly's Mom
After studying the Bible from the original languages of scripture for many years, with a pastor-teacher, I firmly believe that Islam was created by the fallen angel Lucifer, a riff off of Judaism and Christianity, in opposition.
It took him a few hundred years after the ascension of Jesus Christ. The Muslims trace their lineage back to Ishmael, the "red-headed stepchild" of the 1st Jew, Abraham. and you know how rough sibling rivalry can be.
The problem is all the kindness, caring and ethical behavior is only extended to fellow Muslims. All others are fair game to commit any sort of atrocity against. In fact such acts are condoned.
Posted by: Molly's Mom
After studying the Bible from the original languages of scripture for many years, with a pastor-teacher, I firmly believe that Islam was created by the fallen angel Lucifer, a riff off of Judaism and Christianity, in opposition.
It took him a few hundred years after the ascension of Jesus Christ. The Muslims trace their lineage back to Ishmael, the "red-headed stepchild" of the 1st Jew, Abraham. and you know how rough sibling rivalry can be.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (8mO0Q)
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Pre 1978 Iran could have nursed a pluralistic society. I've seen the ads--some of the Persian women were pretty hot.
Post 1978 Iran, not so much.
Post 1978 Iran, not so much.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (n3MnG)
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231 Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
Rather the reverse. Islam is incompatible with Western Pluralistic Societies
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 01:18 PM (pD45z)
Mohammed was exposed to all the pillars of modern society, Roman Law, Greek Philosophy, and the Judeo-Christian religion. He rejected them all. By design.
Rather the reverse. Islam is incompatible with Western Pluralistic Societies
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 01:18 PM (pD45z)
Mohammed was exposed to all the pillars of modern society, Roman Law, Greek Philosophy, and the Judeo-Christian religion. He rejected them all. By design.
Posted by: Iblis at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (9221z)
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David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
That's a pretty gross overstatement, but as lousy as life was under Islamic conquest, it was better than what the Christians did to Jews later.
Things have swapped of course, now Christians are the best friends Jews have and are their protectors, while Muslims are trying to slaughter them all but too many Jews haven't caught up with this fact yet.
That's a pretty gross overstatement, but as lousy as life was under Islamic conquest, it was better than what the Christians did to Jews later.
Things have swapped of course, now Christians are the best friends Jews have and are their protectors, while Muslims are trying to slaughter them all but too many Jews haven't caught up with this fact yet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (39g3+)
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TPOP - Sure, there's a definite strain of legalism in Jewish reform sects - not adhering to Kashrut, for example, because Kashrut laws are seen as more of a Talmudic abstraction than an absolute decree from G-d. I'm just saying that Judaism, a monotheistic religion with a book of laws that come straight from the creator, has been reformed, so you can't say that the Koran coming straight from Allah makes it unreformable. There may be numerous other reasons that reform of Islam would failike, though.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (+PEqr)
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We have two muslims in our family. One female, one male. The female is completely Westernized from birth, is a natural-born citizen, and has never paid any attention to her religion. She sometimes attends Church and always celebrates all the Christian holidays with the family. She observes none of the muslim traditions or holidays. She's a MINO. It would never cross my mind to be concerned about her in any way.
The male is Westernized too, but there have been a couple of things in the last year that have given me pause. Very small minor things. I hope it goes no farther than that.
The male is Westernized too, but there have been a couple of things in the last year that have given me pause. Very small minor things. I hope it goes no farther than that.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:22 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 12:47 PM
OK. Cute kitteh story coming right up.
I was sitting in a friend's living room. Her big moose of a chocolate lab was lying on the floor, slowly wagging his tail back and forth. One of her newly acquired itteh bitteh kittens was sitting behind the lab, batting his tail like it was the greatest cat toy ever (the other was sitting on my shoulder for no very good reason). As we're watching this, two things happened simultaneously. The kitten grabbed onto the lab's tail, and the lab decided to stand up. The two of us wound up laughing hysterically and wishing we had a video camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
Here endeth the cute kitteh story.
OK. Cute kitteh story coming right up.
I was sitting in a friend's living room. Her big moose of a chocolate lab was lying on the floor, slowly wagging his tail back and forth. One of her newly acquired itteh bitteh kittens was sitting behind the lab, batting his tail like it was the greatest cat toy ever (the other was sitting on my shoulder for no very good reason). As we're watching this, two things happened simultaneously. The kitten grabbed onto the lab's tail, and the lab decided to stand up. The two of us wound up laughing hysterically and wishing we had a video camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
Here endeth the cute kitteh story.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 29, 2017 01:22 PM (xsaMI)
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Tribal barbarism with extreme prejudice is not what one should consider civilized. Look at the insane savagery perpetrated against their own women as your first sign.
Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2017 01:19 PM (FmNHR)
Plus, any 'religion' or 'culture' that hates dogs, well, . . . .
Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2017 01:19 PM (FmNHR)
Plus, any 'religion' or 'culture' that hates dogs, well, . . . .
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 01:23 PM (32Cwc)
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Islamic Oil Money has bought and paid for all Western Politicians, and in return, they will just sit back and count their money as we are all forced under the Scimitar of Shari'ah.
Posted by: Hikaru
And that's why we decided to try something different. It really is galling to have these bought-and-paid for asswipes slander the person who could not be bought, who (so far) seems to have more integrity than the rest of them.
Posted by: Hikaru
And that's why we decided to try something different. It really is galling to have these bought-and-paid for asswipes slander the person who could not be bought, who (so far) seems to have more integrity than the rest of them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:23 PM (rH4JY)
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The entire populations of six of the seven counties effected by the EO amounts to slightly over one hundred million, which is about ten percent of the worldwide muslim population.How in any stretch of the imagination this could be seen as a muslim ban is beyond me.I didn't include Iran because there should be no immigration allowed from that country until they release and stop taking Americans hostage.
The entire populations of six of the seven counties effected by the EO amounts to slightly over one hundred million, which is about ten percent of the worldwide muslim population.How in any stretch of the imagination this could be seen as a muslim ban is beyond me.I didn't include Iran because there should be no immigration allowed from that country until they release and stop taking Americans hostage.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 01:23 PM (PtOP4)
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The West is individualistic and any ideology that is opposed to individualism will not ever find common ground with the West. islam is in that camp ... but it's nasty and violent, on top of it all.
There is no reformation of islam possible that will bring it into line, or compatible in any wya, with any individualistic society. This is fundamental.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (zc3Db)
Marxism and Islam go together like peas and carrots.
There is no reformation of islam possible that will bring it into line, or compatible in any wya, with any individualistic society. This is fundamental.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2017 01:01 PM (zc3Db)
Marxism and Islam go together like peas and carrots.
Posted by: Forrest Gump at January 29, 2017 01:24 PM (Kz5ms)
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If Hitler said: "God told me..." and then continued his Mein Kampf word-for-word, would his ideology be exempt from criticism because "religion"?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 29, 2017 01:24 PM (OhTOr)
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ObamaMalik
29/01/17 04:27
We don't lock our doors before bed because we hate people outside. We lock them because we love the people inside.
29/01/17 04:27
We don't lock our doors before bed because we hate people outside. We lock them because we love the people inside.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (y3aQB)
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Pre 1978 Iran could have nursed a pluralistic society. I've seen the ads--some of the Persian women were pretty hot.
Post 1978 Iran, not so much.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (n3MnG)
Yup...The Shah was a civilized man ruling over a great country until Jimmah showed up.
1979 saw Iran and Nicaragua plunged into madness thanks to the old peanut farmer.
Post 1978 Iran, not so much.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (n3MnG)
Yup...The Shah was a civilized man ruling over a great country until Jimmah showed up.
1979 saw Iran and Nicaragua plunged into madness thanks to the old peanut farmer.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (5VlCp)
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Islam is incompatible with earth. It should be nuked out of existence.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (yTnCT)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (C9pBZ)
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Islamic Oil Money has bought and paid for all Western Politicians
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And that's why we decided to try something different.
I don't think it was conscious, but that's what America did. We picked the one candidate least obviously controlled by Arabic oil money.
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And that's why we decided to try something different.
I don't think it was conscious, but that's what America did. We picked the one candidate least obviously controlled by Arabic oil money.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (39g3+)
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With an occasional Arc-Light strike just to remind them every now and then when they get uppity.
Let them sit around the fire telling fables of the Air Jinn who randomly rain fire on the True Believers.
Let them sit around the fire telling fables of the Air Jinn who randomly rain fire on the True Believers.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (pD45z)
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This argument is largely academic, though. Whether or not Islam is capable of reform, we have to acknowledge that for the moment hardliners like Wahhabists have won the war for Islam and that as long as they are the dominant strain, Islam is an existential threat to Western society.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (+PEqr)
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Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 01:21 PM (8mO0Q)
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The only things Satan can do is to counterfeit God and to deceive. So, yeah.
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The only things Satan can do is to counterfeit God and to deceive. So, yeah.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:26 PM (dFi94)
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I don't know what the debate is about. We're practically living in a sci-fi movie where a time gate to the 7th century opened up and a knuckle dragging army of darkness stepped into the modern world. What the hell do you think would happen if that really happened?
Oh I have an idea, just fucking look around.. THATS what will happen. The only reason I know its not a sci-fi movie is because in a movie like that we assemble the best and brightest to shove that army back through the time gate and sent a big ass fucking nuke along with it to end that problem for the next 10,000 years.
Oh I have an idea, just fucking look around.. THATS what will happen. The only reason I know its not a sci-fi movie is because in a movie like that we assemble the best and brightest to shove that army back through the time gate and sent a big ass fucking nuke along with it to end that problem for the next 10,000 years.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 01:26 PM (aMlLZ)
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For their Holocaust Remembrance Day announcement, the Trumpsters apparently took out the specific reference to Jews that had been used in the past.
And Tim Kaine and MSM took the bait! The Anti-semitism!! Where is the humanity!
Apparently a guard stood in front of the MSM bust in the Oval Office when the press were invited in. Another bait job.
And Tim Kaine and MSM took the bait! The Anti-semitism!! Where is the humanity!
Apparently a guard stood in front of the MSM bust in the Oval Office when the press were invited in. Another bait job.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:26 PM (bQxkN)
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Islam is incompatible with earth. It should be nuked out of existence.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (yTnCT)
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Not to worry.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:25 PM (yTnCT)
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Not to worry.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:27 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:27 PM (n3MnG)
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257 I love you, Berserker. Or should I say, General.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 01:28 PM (8mO0Q)
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We have two muslims in our family. One female, one male. The female is completely Westernized from birth, is a natural-born citizen, and has never paid any attention to her religion. She sometimes attends Church and always celebrates all the Christian holidays with the family. She observes none of the muslim traditions or holidays. She's a MINO. It would never cross my mind to be concerned about her in any way.
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Out of curiosity - so she still identifies as Muslim? Not "spiritual but not religious" or "agnostic" or Christian?
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Posted by: grammie winger
Out of curiosity - so she still identifies as Muslim? Not "spiritual but not religious" or "agnostic" or Christian?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:28 PM (rH4JY)
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Interesting that the Greens in Germany are fighting anti-Semitism, but here in the States the Greens are with the Lefties spewing BDS whenever they can.
Did the memo not get translated into Deutsch?
Did the memo not get translated into Deutsch?
Posted by: Moran Moran at January 29, 2017 01:29 PM (GdgAM)
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A question I have is where are all the weapons used by the muzzies coming from? I know they grabbed a bunch from looting government barracks and such, but that can only account for so much.
The Brits were great at keeping weapons out of their colonies back in the day. We should seek to do the same across the muzzie world for our sake and theirs.
The Brits were great at keeping weapons out of their colonies back in the day. We should seek to do the same across the muzzie world for our sake and theirs.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:30 PM (5VlCp)
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Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (hXu8T)
Have you not been here a while, Butch?. if bot, Christopher Taylor is a Christian and he is not a progressive. Merely noting there are some positive things to Islam does not mean, he endorses the religion, approves it or is virtue signalling.
Have you not been here a while, Butch?. if bot, Christopher Taylor is a Christian and he is not a progressive. Merely noting there are some positive things to Islam does not mean, he endorses the religion, approves it or is virtue signalling.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:31 PM (fDdVG)
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Out of curiosity - so she still identifies as Muslim? Not "spiritual but not religious" or "agnostic" or Christian?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:28 PM (rH4JY)
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Basically she says, "My parents are muslim". She has no brothers or sisters, her folks live in another city, so really the only people she interacts with are Christians or secularists. She doesn't live as a muslim, she just basically was born into a muslim family.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:28 PM (rH4JY)
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Basically she says, "My parents are muslim". She has no brothers or sisters, her folks live in another city, so really the only people she interacts with are Christians or secularists. She doesn't live as a muslim, she just basically was born into a muslim family.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:32 PM (dFi94)
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Need to support President Trump right now. Stand firm. These "protest" are just dems pissed off they lost the election. They will "protest" everything he does. #STANDFIRM
Posted by: Wendy at January 29, 2017 01:32 PM (wDnB/)
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I am fine with these students protesting Holocaust remembrances- just do not give them one inch. This is free speech. Wait, free speech is not allowed in Germany for those who protest Muslims? Then this is not free speech, it is just preferential treatment and a pox on their house.
Dennis Miller had a good quote on this: (paraphrased from memory) "I want the KKK having marches. I want various assholes to say whatever they want, whenever they want, because then and only then we know exactly who these fuckers are."
Dennis Miller had a good quote on this: (paraphrased from memory) "I want the KKK having marches. I want various assholes to say whatever they want, whenever they want, because then and only then we know exactly who these fuckers are."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 01:33 PM (92kX2)
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This argument is largely academic, though. Whether or not Islam is capable of reform, we have to acknowledge that for the moment hardliners like Wahhabists have won the war for Islam and that as long as they are the dominant strain, Islam is an existential threat to Western society.
I agree, at this point the vast bulk, perhaps nearly all of Islam as a religion is unreachable and unable to reform. Maybe not for generations, but soon, we can pray.
I agree, at this point the vast bulk, perhaps nearly all of Islam as a religion is unreachable and unable to reform. Maybe not for generations, but soon, we can pray.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (39g3+)
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Trump is so amazingly good at baiting the media and then switching the topic while they are chasing the shiny shit. I have been laughing my ass off about this all week. Loving this guy as President.
In the words of my fellow Hoosier, Henry Lee Summer, ....
"I think it's time, I think it's time, I think it's time, time for BIG FUN"
In the words of my fellow Hoosier, Henry Lee Summer, ....
"I think it's time, I think it's time, I think it's time, time for BIG FUN"
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (yTnCT)
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Y. E. S.
Y E S
Y E S
Hasn't anyone in your time-dimension read my writings on the Koran and Islam???
Y. E. S.
Y E S
Y E S
Hasn't anyone in your time-dimension read my writings on the Koran and Islam???
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (DpOmP)
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Here endeth the cute kitteh story.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
The annoying thing about kittens is that when you pick them up, they never stay still. They deliberately try to crawl onto an unstable position in which you are afraid they might fall off, so you continually have to pull them back. They are nothing but worrisome, stupid creatures, although they are cute.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
The annoying thing about kittens is that when you pick them up, they never stay still. They deliberately try to crawl onto an unstable position in which you are afraid they might fall off, so you continually have to pull them back. They are nothing but worrisome, stupid creatures, although they are cute.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (rH4JY)
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Everyone I don't like is Hitler
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Everyone I don't like is Hitler
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (y3aQB)
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Taylor's one of the smartest guys around here. He led us to freedom from the apes.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (n3MnG)
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A question I have is where are all the weapons used by the muzzies coming from? I know they grabbed a bunch from looting government barracks and such, but that can only account for so much.
The Brits were great at keeping weapons out of their colonies back in the day. We should seek to do the same across the muzzie world for our sake and theirs.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:30 PM (5VlCp)
AK-47s are the iPods of the Islamic world.
Many (most?) Islamic countries were pawns in the Cold War. Nasser, in Egypt, was strongly supported by the commies. Then Sadat took over and had a rapprochement with Israel, The Camp David Accords. Sadat paid with his life at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood for daring to do that.
The Brits were great at keeping weapons out of their colonies back in the day. We should seek to do the same across the muzzie world for our sake and theirs.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:30 PM (5VlCp)
AK-47s are the iPods of the Islamic world.
Many (most?) Islamic countries were pawns in the Cold War. Nasser, in Egypt, was strongly supported by the commies. Then Sadat took over and had a rapprochement with Israel, The Camp David Accords. Sadat paid with his life at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood for daring to do that.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (32Cwc)
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Basic Principle #1: Illegal Aliens don't have a right to be here.
Basic Principle #2: Foreigners don't have an absolute right to come here.
This is sovereignty 101.
e.g., Britain has banned author Robert Spencer for views on Islam similar to many in this thread (not Richard Spencer the white supremacist).
Basic Principle #2: Foreigners don't have an absolute right to come here.
This is sovereignty 101.
e.g., Britain has banned author Robert Spencer for views on Islam similar to many in this thread (not Richard Spencer the white supremacist).
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (bQxkN)
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A question I have is where are all the weapons used by the muzzies
coming from? I know they grabbed a bunch from looting government
barracks and such, but that can only account for so much.
Europe.plenty of old Soviet era small arms are still floating around.
A question I have is where are all the weapons used by the muzzies
coming from? I know they grabbed a bunch from looting government
barracks and such, but that can only account for so much.
Europe.plenty of old Soviet era small arms are still floating around.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (PtOP4)
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The issue that we still face today is people in power pushing for Global Governance are really Marxists-Atheists at heart. But they will claim to be whatever religion they were born into push the masses towards a Global Government seeking total control of the population.
We have to be reaching close to a billion deaths world wide since the year 1900 based on these genocidal and homicidal psychopaths seeking total control and absolute power.
We have to be reaching close to a billion deaths world wide since the year 1900 based on these genocidal and homicidal psychopaths seeking total control and absolute power.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (emywJ)
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It is deeply troubling to me how ignorant the left is of Islam and its very close ties to Naziism. They are really quite compatible, replacing "aryan" with "Arabic."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:36 PM (39g3+)
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We're practically living in a sci-fi movie where a time gate to the 7th century opened up and a knuckle dragging army of darkness stepped into the modern world.
Okay, NOW "Yes. Next thread."
Okay, NOW "Yes. Next thread."
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 01:36 PM (6FqZa)
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270 Trump is so amazingly good at baiting the media and then switching the topic while they are chasing the shiny shit. I have been laughing my ass off about this all week. Loving this guy as President.
In the words of my fellow Hoosier, Henry Lee Summer, ....
"I think it's time, I think it's time, I think it's time, time for BIG FUN"
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (yTnCT)
Media made the mistake of not reporting that Trump has a 156 I.Q. - Now they have zero clue that he's playing so far inside their OODA loop that he can get them to eat shit for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
In the words of my fellow Hoosier, Henry Lee Summer, ....
"I think it's time, I think it's time, I think it's time, time for BIG FUN"
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM (yTnCT)
Media made the mistake of not reporting that Trump has a 156 I.Q. - Now they have zero clue that he's playing so far inside their OODA loop that he can get them to eat shit for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 29, 2017 01:36 PM (DpOmP)
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A question I have is where are all the weapons used by the muzzies coming from?
Remember those gigantic stacks of money IS stole from Iraq? Hundreds of millions of dollars. At least some of that wasn't used for drugs and partying.
Remember those gigantic stacks of money IS stole from Iraq? Hundreds of millions of dollars. At least some of that wasn't used for drugs and partying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:37 PM (39g3+)
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Islam and its very close ties to Naziism. They are really quite compatible, replacing "aryan" with "Arabic."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
More proof of its Islam's existence to eliminate believers. the Angelic Conflict only has 2 sides, right?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
More proof of its Islam's existence to eliminate believers. the Angelic Conflict only has 2 sides, right?
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 01:38 PM (8mO0Q)
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The Brits were great at keeping weapons out of their colonies back in the day. We should seek to do the same across the muzzie world for our sake and theirs.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:30 PM (5VlCp)
Oh... I think we should deliver them plenty of our weapons... in fact, we should deliver them 10 Megatonnes at a time... Let's start with Mecca
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:30 PM (5VlCp)
Oh... I think we should deliver them plenty of our weapons... in fact, we should deliver them 10 Megatonnes at a time... Let's start with Mecca
Posted by: Curtis LeMay at January 29, 2017 01:38 PM (DpOmP)
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AK-47s are the iPods of the Islamic world.
Many (most?) Islamic countries were pawns in the Cold War. Nasser, in Egypt, was strongly supported by the commies. Then Sadat took over and had a rapprochement with Israel, The Camp David Accords. Sadat paid with his life at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood for daring to do that.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (32Cwc)
Yup...the UAR and Egypt in particular made some fine AKs and Hakim and Rasheeds, etc. but outside of them and the Afghan/Paki junk dealers where are all those weapons and ammo coming from?
Gotta be a source or sources somewhere....
Many (most?) Islamic countries were pawns in the Cold War. Nasser, in Egypt, was strongly supported by the commies. Then Sadat took over and had a rapprochement with Israel, The Camp David Accords. Sadat paid with his life at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood for daring to do that.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 01:35 PM (32Cwc)
Yup...the UAR and Egypt in particular made some fine AKs and Hakim and Rasheeds, etc. but outside of them and the Afghan/Paki junk dealers where are all those weapons and ammo coming from?
Gotta be a source or sources somewhere....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 01:39 PM (5VlCp)
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They are nothing but worrisome, stupid creatures, although they are cute.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM
And I'm convinced that this is why God made kittens, babies and all small animals cute. Parents would kill them otherwise. Amirite?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:34 PM
And I'm convinced that this is why God made kittens, babies and all small animals cute. Parents would kill them otherwise. Amirite?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 29, 2017 01:39 PM (xsaMI)
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OK. Cute kitteh story coming right up.
I was sitting in a friend's living room. Her big moose of a chocolate lab was lying on the floor, slowly wagging his tail back and forth. One of her newly acquired itteh bitteh kittens was sitting behind the lab, batting his tail like it was the greatest cat toy ever (the other was sitting on my shoulder for no very good reason). As we're watching this, two things happened simultaneously. The kitten grabbed onto the lab's tail, and the lab decided to stand up. The two of us wound up laughing hysterically and wishing we had a video camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
Here endeth the cute kitteh story.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 29, 2017 01:22 PM
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That was a most excellent cute kitteh story, thank you RedMindBlueState!!!
/anecdotally, I am also in a red mind person in a blue state.
OK. Cute kitteh story coming right up.
I was sitting in a friend's living room. Her big moose of a chocolate lab was lying on the floor, slowly wagging his tail back and forth. One of her newly acquired itteh bitteh kittens was sitting behind the lab, batting his tail like it was the greatest cat toy ever (the other was sitting on my shoulder for no very good reason). As we're watching this, two things happened simultaneously. The kitten grabbed onto the lab's tail, and the lab decided to stand up. The two of us wound up laughing hysterically and wishing we had a video camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
Here endeth the cute kitteh story.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 29, 2017 01:22 PM
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That was a most excellent cute kitteh story, thank you RedMindBlueState!!!
/anecdotally, I am also in a red mind person in a blue state.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 01:39 PM (J5mC3)
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Senator Chuck Tumor is going full Boehner with the waterworks!
Posted by: Very Irredeemably Undude at January 29, 2017 01:39 PM (2X7pN)
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Thank the Lord that was a solar flare I asssume. The power went off in my house for about 10 seconds and at the same time the service to my cell phone dies.
My first thought was oh shit a nuke or a EMP was popped off somewhere.
Longest few minutes of my life Because of the book One Second After.
My first thought was oh shit a nuke or a EMP was popped off somewhere.
Longest few minutes of my life Because of the book One Second After.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 01:39 PM (emywJ)
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Www ought to form a PAC-Red mind people in blue states.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (fDdVG)
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Schumer is so pathetic. Tears, really?
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (ByNzS)
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The two of us wound up laughing hysterically and wishing we had a video
camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his
tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life
and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
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Awesome.
camera handy (this was before smart phones), while the lab wagged his
tail like a happy dog, and the kitten wound up hanging on for dear life
and swinging back and forth on the end of the lab's tail like a flag.
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Awesome.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (dFi94)
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Schumer is so pathetic. Tears, really?
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (ByNzS)
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Please say you're kidding.
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (ByNzS)
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Please say you're kidding.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:41 PM (dFi94)
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"Media made the mistake of not reporting that Trump has a 156 I.Q."
Marilyn Monroe claimed an IQ of 165.
We can say that Trump is smarter than most have given him credit for, AoSHQ management included.
Marilyn Monroe claimed an IQ of 165.
We can say that Trump is smarter than most have given him credit for, AoSHQ management included.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:41 PM (bQxkN)
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Media made the mistake of not reporting that Trump has a 156 I.Q. - Now they have zero clue that he's playing so far inside their OODA loop that he can get them to eat shit for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner
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LOL.
I didn't know Trump's IQ, but I have no doubt it is that high.
Add in business acumen and street smarts and then.. Bazinga!
Media is left curled up in a ball like a Swedish Girl after a three day Muslim rape fest streamed on Facebook.
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LOL.
I didn't know Trump's IQ, but I have no doubt it is that high.
Add in business acumen and street smarts and then.. Bazinga!
Media is left curled up in a ball like a Swedish Girl after a three day Muslim rape fest streamed on Facebook.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 01:41 PM (J5mC3)
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Www-We
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:41 PM (fDdVG)
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Schumer is pathetic. I have never seen him cry over anything else. It's probably opportunistic crying.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)
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Chuck Schumer cried on camera over Trump's Muslim ban. (Crocodile tears?)
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM
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Just saw that clip---total BS. There were no tears, he just faked a choked-up sound.
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM
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Just saw that clip---total BS. There were no tears, he just faked a choked-up sound.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 29, 2017 01:42 PM (HiDrR)
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Schumer is pathetic. I have never seen him cry over anything else. It's probably opportunistic crying.
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When you're a democrat, is there any other kind of crying?
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When you're a democrat, is there any other kind of crying?
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 01:43 PM (J5mC3)
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Schumer is so pathetic. Tears, really?
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (ByNzS)
Schumer...fuck him. He hasn't been relevant since his role of Dathan in the movie 10 commandments.
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:40 PM (ByNzS)
Schumer...fuck him. He hasn't been relevant since his role of Dathan in the movie 10 commandments.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 01:43 PM (aMlLZ)
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Marxism and Islam go together like peas and carrots.
Posted by: Forrest Gump
Westernism and Islam go together like chili and carrots.
Marxism and Islam go together like peas and carrots.
Posted by: Forrest Gump
Westernism and Islam go together like chili and carrots.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 29, 2017 01:43 PM (IqV8l)
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The left will get us all killed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:43 PM (SjImc)
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No, grammie. I'm sure they were fake. These lifelong politicians are in for a rude awakening. We, as a whole, have rejected them and they just don't understand that we no longer abide by their status quo.
Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (ByNzS)
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I think Trump's greatest asset is that he's so easy to underestimate.
the Angelic Conflict only has 2 sides, right?
The battle for all time was told by God to Adam and Eve: the serpent and the seed of the woman. Until the end of time.
the Angelic Conflict only has 2 sides, right?
The battle for all time was told by God to Adam and Eve: the serpent and the seed of the woman. Until the end of time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bill Ayers, Genocide Expert at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (J5mC3)
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Islam isnt compatible with society, period.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (dx2Dx)
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All the womenz, AAz, latinz, gheys, and tranzies must be terribly upset about the muzzies taking a huge lead in the victim-class stakes.
I can't keep up.
I can't keep up.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (U6f54)
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Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 01:43 PM (J5mC3)
I am a Democrat, (DINO) so, yes :^). It's just that it's obviously a political ploy with Schumer, Was he crying when Obama kept Iraqis out?
I am a Democrat, (DINO) so, yes :^). It's just that it's obviously a political ploy with Schumer, Was he crying when Obama kept Iraqis out?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:45 PM (fDdVG)
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I hadn't heard the Trump IQ of 156 until right around the inauguration...
it explains the lack-of-sleep... very edison like...
explains why daddy had to send him to a military h.s. - brain too active for his own good as a youngster
it explains the lack-of-sleep... very edison like...
explains why daddy had to send him to a military h.s. - brain too active for his own good as a youngster
Posted by: phreshone at January 29, 2017 01:45 PM (DpOmP)
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Scott Ott was #nevertrump, but it seems like he is being pulled back into the fold.
He tells a story on Bill Whittle's channel. He has a progressive friend who got a news item alert on his phone in Jan 20th. He looks at the message, looks at Scott and says "Trump's speech was dark and dystopian. "
Scott had heard the speech prior, and probably knows these exact buzzwords being repeated by the media in a coordinated way before. Scott reads a portion of the speech, and asks him if it was dark. "No, but it's different when he said it."
So the speech is objectively not dark. Trump is dark. You signed up to get an item alert on your phone to tell you that Trump is dark. What is that?
He tells a story on Bill Whittle's channel. He has a progressive friend who got a news item alert on his phone in Jan 20th. He looks at the message, looks at Scott and says "Trump's speech was dark and dystopian. "
Scott had heard the speech prior, and probably knows these exact buzzwords being repeated by the media in a coordinated way before. Scott reads a portion of the speech, and asks him if it was dark. "No, but it's different when he said it."
So the speech is objectively not dark. Trump is dark. You signed up to get an item alert on your phone to tell you that Trump is dark. What is that?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2017 01:45 PM (VdICR)
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Trump has historically had the problem of thinking his high IQ made him omniscient, so made some colossal blunders in his businesses.
In D&D terms, Intelligence and Wisdom are different statistics.
I hope Trump has acquired a Tome of Understanding since 1991.
In D&D terms, Intelligence and Wisdom are different statistics.
I hope Trump has acquired a Tome of Understanding since 1991.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 01:45 PM (6FqZa)
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I don't remember seeing Schumer weep on camera after 9/11.
I know I never saw Guiliani weep in a press conference.
I know I never saw Guiliani weep in a press conference.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 29, 2017 01:45 PM (n3MnG)
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Islam isnt compatible with society, period.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (dx2Dx)
yup...show me one place it has worked and lead to universal freedoms and economic progress ( - oil money). Much like communism.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2017 01:44 PM (dx2Dx)
yup...show me one place it has worked and lead to universal freedoms and economic progress ( - oil money). Much like communism.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (SjImc)
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I wrestle with the whole refugee thing as a Christian. My instructions are to feed the poor, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, care for the widow and the orphan. Look out for the strangers and aliens in the land, because I too am a stranger and an alien. It's a fine line. I'm trying to understand how best to do this. We do support a couple of organizations who do refugee work. But they do it in foreign countries where people are displaced. What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
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And I'm convinced that this is why God made kittens, babies and all small animals cute. Parents would kill them otherwise. Amirite?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes. Also may be why he made cages (and cribs).
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes. Also may be why he made cages (and cribs).
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 01:47 PM (rH4JY)
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This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
Actually no it's very easy. Safe zones and let those neighboring rich muslim countries help their co-religionists. Not brain surgery.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
Actually no it's very easy. Safe zones and let those neighboring rich muslim countries help their co-religionists. Not brain surgery.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:48 PM (SjImc)
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I wrestle with the whole refugee thing as a Christian. My instructions are to feed the poor, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, care for the widow and the orphan. Look out for the strangers and aliens in the land, because I too am a stranger and an alien. It's a fine line. I'm trying to understand how best to do this. We do support a couple of organizations who do refugee work. But they do it in foreign countries where people are displaced. What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
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Father Jonathon was on FNC this morning and agreed with Jeffries and others that our first duty is to provide for and to protect our own.
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Father Jonathon was on FNC this morning and agreed with Jeffries and others that our first duty is to provide for and to protect our own.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:48 PM (SEXy3)
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This is just week 1.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM (89T5c)
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"There were no tears,"
There were tears in his eyes. Not dripping down his face, but there were tears. Watch it again.
There were tears in his eyes. Not dripping down his face, but there were tears. Watch it again.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM (bQxkN)
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Analyzing this through Trump Chaos Theory, you might say this is intended to force congress to speed up the confirmation process of his appointees.
We can only surmise.
We are going to have to become quick studies of TCT.
We can only surmise.
We are going to have to become quick studies of TCT.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (+lv+r)
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (rH4JY)
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What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM
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It's not so hard when you see that the vast majority of your "refugees" are males between 16 and 30 years of age.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM
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It's not so hard when you see that the vast majority of your "refugees" are males between 16 and 30 years of age.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (HiDrR)
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There were tears in his eyes. Not dripping down his face, but there were tears. Watch it again.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM (bQxkN)
How do we know it wasn't Visine?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM (bQxkN)
How do we know it wasn't Visine?
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (32Cwc)
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Fen @ 265 - I have been here 10+ years. I am familiar with Christopher's posts. Heck, I even bought "A Life Unworthy."
But his post today is nonsense on stilts. All of the good and charitable aspects of Islam are directed to Muslims, not we kuffir in the Dar al Harb. So, no, I see no positive aspects to Islam and I consider those who make it equivalent to Christianity as virtue signaling.
Regards.
But his post today is nonsense on stilts. All of the good and charitable aspects of Islam are directed to Muslims, not we kuffir in the Dar al Harb. So, no, I see no positive aspects to Islam and I consider those who make it equivalent to Christianity as virtue signaling.
Regards.
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (hXu8T)
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I know I never saw Guiliani weep in a press conference.
Giuliani's tears are made up of pure justice and must be used only for good.
I wrestle with the whole refugee thing as a Christian.
We're also called to be good stewards with our resources and care for our families and people first. I do not think anyone can possibly condemn the USA for being like Israel was condemened by the minor prophets. We care for orphans, widows, and the destitute I believe better than anywhere on earth through private charity and national systems. We care for refugees through gigantic assistance and harboring those we can.
But there is a limit, and that limit is what becomes destructive not just to us, but to the refugees. And surely, the requirements of Christian virtue and charity extend to other nations than the USA and Europe.
Giuliani's tears are made up of pure justice and must be used only for good.
I wrestle with the whole refugee thing as a Christian.
We're also called to be good stewards with our resources and care for our families and people first. I do not think anyone can possibly condemn the USA for being like Israel was condemened by the minor prophets. We care for orphans, widows, and the destitute I believe better than anywhere on earth through private charity and national systems. We care for refugees through gigantic assistance and harboring those we can.
But there is a limit, and that limit is what becomes destructive not just to us, but to the refugees. And surely, the requirements of Christian virtue and charity extend to other nations than the USA and Europe.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)
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There were tears in his eyes. Not dripping down his face, but there were tears. Watch it again.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM
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Prolly the old hot-sauce-on-the-fingers trick!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:49 PM
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Prolly the old hot-sauce-on-the-fingers trick!
Posted by: IrishEi at January 29, 2017 01:52 PM (HiDrR)
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IF, and we know they are lying, each one of these "Refugees" has been "vetted" for 2-3 years, then by definition they are NOT in mortal danger. The Left can not have it both ways. AND if they are only coming here for economic advantages, then by definition they are not "Refugees".
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:52 PM (SjImc)
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https://tinyurl.com/haq2y8n
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Former Iraqi PM slams Obama foreign policy; says it created ISIS
Guess all muzzies don't like Ears Nestor?
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Former Iraqi PM slams Obama foreign policy; says it created ISIS
Guess all muzzies don't like Ears Nestor?
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 01:53 PM (y3aQB)
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Golfing! Just like every weekend of the last 8 years!
Posted by: Preezy Barry at January 29, 2017 01:53 PM (En33R)
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Shit boys... we used to ban the immigration of all Muzzies in my day
Posted by: IKE at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (DpOmP)
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Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
You are a good person, gramme, and i appreciate you struggle with this. However, how many refugees did Obama let in-10,000?, 15,000?. We've already done our part and very few of those were Christians because Obama just didn't like Christians and favors Islam. I am sure you are very generous in helping ways-as you have mentioned Samaritans Purse before.
You are a good person, gramme, and i appreciate you struggle with this. However, how many refugees did Obama let in-10,000?, 15,000?. We've already done our part and very few of those were Christians because Obama just didn't like Christians and favors Islam. I am sure you are very generous in helping ways-as you have mentioned Samaritans Purse before.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (fDdVG)
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And surely, the requirements of Christian virtue and charity extend to other nations than the USA and Europe.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)
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This is exactly the conversation I have with my sister, endlessly. We support a couple of organizations that are helping refugees within the camps. The goal being to take care of them till their own country is stable enough to return to, or until a neighboring country can be found for them. All the while feeding them and sharing the Gospel.
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my thinking is not right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)
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This is exactly the conversation I have with my sister, endlessly. We support a couple of organizations that are helping refugees within the camps. The goal being to take care of them till their own country is stable enough to return to, or until a neighboring country can be found for them. All the while feeding them and sharing the Gospel.
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
Don't worry I am sure the Chicoms, the Ruskies, and the Pope will take up the slack...cough cough cough
Don't worry I am sure the Chicoms, the Ruskies, and the Pope will take up the slack...cough cough cough
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:55 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 01:55 PM (Gv7El)
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as you have mentioned Samaritans Purse before.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (fDdVG)
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Yes, we do Samaritan's Purse, and Compassion Intl. Also an organization that supplies Bibles to refugees. But I don't want to harbor ill feelings towards refugees. Go into all the world, etc....
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (fDdVG)
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Yes, we do Samaritan's Purse, and Compassion Intl. Also an organization that supplies Bibles to refugees. But I don't want to harbor ill feelings towards refugees. Go into all the world, etc....
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:56 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 01:50 PM (hXu8T)
I don't see any reason why Christopher would need to virtue signal. To whom?. There aren't progressives on this site unless they're trolls, but of course you two can duke it out if you care to.
I don't see any reason why Christopher would need to virtue signal. To whom?. There aren't progressives on this site unless they're trolls, but of course you two can duke it out if you care to.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:56 PM (fDdVG)
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What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
I don't know either. It's roughly the same situation as with panhandlers; the people fleeing Syria are a mix of those who really do need help and those who are cynically taking advantage of your good will.
Trying to help refugees over there seems like a decent compromise.
I don't know either. It's roughly the same situation as with panhandlers; the people fleeing Syria are a mix of those who really do need help and those who are cynically taking advantage of your good will.
Trying to help refugees over there seems like a decent compromise.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 01:56 PM (4bKiB)
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*What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)*
This is why i look forward to reading your posts. Honest as the day is long.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)*
This is why i look forward to reading your posts. Honest as the day is long.
Posted by: tbodie at January 29, 2017 01:57 PM (xT+ue)
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The Saudis have plenty of camps... don't bring them across the Atlantic unless you really want to build some of my 'camps' someday
Posted by: Heinrich Himmer at January 29, 2017 01:57 PM (DpOmP)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 01:57 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (Om16U)
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So, have they impeached Trump yet? I mean they are running around with their hair on fire...
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (O2RFr)
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Grammie @ 332 - How many of these "refugees" will your sister personally take in? I left my Catholic Church because their idea of Christian charity was to support illegal immigration and help them get on welfare.
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (hXu8T)
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This is not who we are.
So fucking sick of this statement.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 01:57 PM (89T5c)
Bingo
I'd like to know who invented that bullshit? Was it Fredo?
So fucking sick of this statement.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 01:57 PM (89T5c)
Bingo
I'd like to know who invented that bullshit? Was it Fredo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Publius Redux at January 29, 2017 01:59 PM (UOr6C)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at January 29, 2017 02:00 PM (O1efQ)
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Well this is the fight, it has come.
The weakest link is the GOPe so as the protest and opposition build it's probably in quisling caucus that the fate of our country resides.
You already have McCain and Grahm chirping so the collapse is going to come quicky from them.
The weakest link is the GOPe so as the protest and opposition build it's probably in quisling caucus that the fate of our country resides.
You already have McCain and Grahm chirping so the collapse is going to come quicky from them.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (+lv+r)
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I don't mind some genuinely needy, clearly desperate refugees finding shelter in the USA temporarily during conflict. I don't mind some of them working their way through the system to become permanent citizens and residents of the USA, if they bring us positive benefit as a country.
But floods of people just settled in the USA permanently because their country is at war -- a war the USA materially contributed to starting and worsening under President Obama? That's another story entirely.
But floods of people just settled in the USA permanently because their country is at war -- a war the USA materially contributed to starting and worsening under President Obama? That's another story entirely.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know who invented this statement. I'll go out on a limb and say it was a progressive douchebag.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (89T5c)
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We should do the same thing with starving the cartels of weapons.
Now that Obama and Eric Holder aren't around to sell them guns, that is.
Now that Obama and Eric Holder aren't around to sell them guns, that is.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (bQxkN)
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Just a reminder. if you haven't done so, consider sending your support to President trump by contacting the White House today:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (fDdVG)
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314 I wrestle with the whole refugee thing as a Christian. My instructions are to feed the poor, clothe the naked, visit the prisoner, care for the widow and the orphan. Look out for the strangers and aliens in the land, because I too am a stranger and an alien. It's a fine line. I'm trying to understand how best to do this. We do support a couple of organizations who do refugee work. But they do it in foreign countries where people are displaced. What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
The 5 wealthiest countries in the ME take in exactly 0 refugees. The Muslim refugee problem is being used by Global Governance advocates to destroy the West. Forced population displacement is a international crime and a human rights violation, which is what is taking place in Europe, The USA, and Canada.
These Global Marxist:Athiests prey on the Christian guilt and Christian tenets, and are purposely using the "Muslim refugee crisis" as a Trojan horse to destroy the West.
As a Christian when countries are and continue to refuse to take in any of their own neighbors and instead ship them off. Foreign lands exploiting them to advance Jihad then no I don't feel any guilt what so ever about it. I feel guilt about the lack of Christians we are taking in who are being slaughtered in mass in the ME and North Africa. We took in 90 total last year from Syria compared to 15,000.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
The 5 wealthiest countries in the ME take in exactly 0 refugees. The Muslim refugee problem is being used by Global Governance advocates to destroy the West. Forced population displacement is a international crime and a human rights violation, which is what is taking place in Europe, The USA, and Canada.
These Global Marxist:Athiests prey on the Christian guilt and Christian tenets, and are purposely using the "Muslim refugee crisis" as a Trojan horse to destroy the West.
As a Christian when countries are and continue to refuse to take in any of their own neighbors and instead ship them off. Foreign lands exploiting them to advance Jihad then no I don't feel any guilt what so ever about it. I feel guilt about the lack of Christians we are taking in who are being slaughtered in mass in the ME and North Africa. We took in 90 total last year from Syria compared to 15,000.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (emywJ)
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Grammie @ 332 - How many of these "refugees" will your sister personally take in?
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That's the thing. I've showed her several ways to help the refugees, including a Christian blog that tracks ways to help. She doesn't carry through. She basically wants to scream and shout and run about. She didn't even vote.
She truly does have a big heart. She's just kind of whack.
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That's the thing. I've showed her several ways to help the refugees, including a Christian blog that tracks ways to help. She doesn't carry through. She basically wants to scream and shout and run about. She didn't even vote.
She truly does have a big heart. She's just kind of whack.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (dFi94)
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in Islam, you are judged at your end by the good verses evil that you have done. also in Islam, jihad in the name of Islam (killing jews and Christians) outweighs all other evil you may have performed. I do not judge, but I do not want any of these believers in my country. MAGA
Posted by: talgus da Deplorable at January 29, 2017 02:02 PM (fJQAI)
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AnnCoulter
29/01/17 14:04
Hollywood supporting Muslims who oppose alcohol, drugs, porn, premarital sex gays, transexuals, abortion... Or basically "Hollywood."
29/01/17 14:04
Hollywood supporting Muslims who oppose alcohol, drugs, porn, premarital sex gays, transexuals, abortion... Or basically "Hollywood."
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 02:02 PM (y3aQB)
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72 The Germans will eventually snap, we know what that looks like.
Posted by: Little Boomer at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (ZuVs9)
I'm not sure we do know. The manager of the German company we deal with has lost all testosterone or is OK with what the Muzzles are doing. I was shocked at how passive he was about their invasion. Big Merkel supporter, too.
Posted by: Little Boomer at January 29, 2017 12:20 PM (ZuVs9)
I'm not sure we do know. The manager of the German company we deal with has lost all testosterone or is OK with what the Muzzles are doing. I was shocked at how passive he was about their invasion. Big Merkel supporter, too.
Posted by: F.N.G. at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (tj7nx)
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The goal being to take care of them till their own country is stable enough to return to, or until a neighboring country can be found for them. All the while feeding them and sharing the Gospel.
Well clearly, they're better off in their own culture, with their own people, in their own homes than being thrown across the ocean to an alien place and climate. The point is to harbor them until they can go home, not transplant them into the USA.
Well clearly, they're better off in their own culture, with their own people, in their own homes than being thrown across the ocean to an alien place and climate. The point is to harbor them until they can go home, not transplant them into the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)
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The top 5 most wealthy ME countries have taken in 0 refugees. Think about it.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (emywJ)
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (DpOmP)
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Love thy neighbor and hate that which is evil are not incompatible commandments.
Sometimes, you need to "replace" the neighbors.
Sometimes, you need to "replace" the neighbors.
Posted by: Roy at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (fWLrt)
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Grammie, evil will use good against us at every chance. It's one thing to hand a beggar a few dollars, praying he doesn't waste it on booze. It's quite another to offer him your throat. God doesn't expect that of us. Further, this is NOT an unprecedented ban.
Bans and/or restrictions on immigration, to protect America, have been undertaken for decades. Trump's EO imposes a temporary ban on new refugees and asks that those with green cards stop at the border for review.
Your heart is kind and generous, but you are not required to sacrifice your own safety to a growing threat in order to prove your Christianity to anyone, even God.
He knows your heart.
Bans and/or restrictions on immigration, to protect America, have been undertaken for decades. Trump's EO imposes a temporary ban on new refugees and asks that those with green cards stop at the border for review.
Your heart is kind and generous, but you are not required to sacrifice your own safety to a growing threat in order to prove your Christianity to anyone, even God.
He knows your heart.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 02:04 PM (SEXy3)
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Fen @ 336 - He may not be trying to virtue signal, but that is the way he comes across to me. I do not think it rises to the level of duking it out. I do wish we had a better means of discussion rather than these separated posts.
Regards.
Regards.
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 02:05 PM (hXu8T)
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* I don't know who invented this statement. I'll go out on a limb and say it was a progressive douchebag.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (89T5c)*
Short limb.
10"in diameter.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 02:01 PM (89T5c)*
Short limb.
10"in diameter.
Posted by: tbodie at January 29, 2017 02:05 PM (xT+ue)
Posted by: Charlie Manson at January 29, 2017 02:05 PM (DpOmP)
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What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM
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There's a video I linked earlier entitled "Immigration World Poverty and Gumballs 2010 - Immigration Doesn't Work."
It's a fairly short video that explains why, no matter what we do, the numbers prove we cannot change world poverty.
However, that does not mean that an individual cannot help those in need in their community, or in their own parish.
We are an alien culture to many of the impoverished. It's probably not best to transplant anyone into a completely alien culture, even for their own good. Their life might improve, but they will not be happy.
Example: Germany, Sweden.
Finally, many of these people are not being properly screened and vetted. So we might be helping rapists and murderers. These people owe a debt to society, and by opening our doors, we are not helping them, we are enabling them to commit more atrocities, perhaps on our own families.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM
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There's a video I linked earlier entitled "Immigration World Poverty and Gumballs 2010 - Immigration Doesn't Work."
It's a fairly short video that explains why, no matter what we do, the numbers prove we cannot change world poverty.
However, that does not mean that an individual cannot help those in need in their community, or in their own parish.
We are an alien culture to many of the impoverished. It's probably not best to transplant anyone into a completely alien culture, even for their own good. Their life might improve, but they will not be happy.
Example: Germany, Sweden.
Finally, many of these people are not being properly screened and vetted. So we might be helping rapists and murderers. These people owe a debt to society, and by opening our doors, we are not helping them, we are enabling them to commit more atrocities, perhaps on our own families.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 02:05 PM (J5mC3)
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He knows your heart.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 02:04 PM (SEXy3)
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Thanks, NDH. Also I just noticed you are three times sexy.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 02:04 PM (SEXy3)
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Thanks, NDH. Also I just noticed you are three times sexy.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:05 PM (dFi94)
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3 billion people would move to the US if legality and travel were not an issue.
We are already an exclusive club, we're just haggling over the price.
We are already an exclusive club, we're just haggling over the price.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2017 02:06 PM (VdICR)
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I'm not sure we do know. The manager of the German company we deal with has lost all testosterone or is OK with what the Muzzles are doing. I was shocked at how passive he was about their invasion. Big Merkel supporter, too.
Posted by: F.N.G. at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (tj7nx)
It's not the people you've come into contact with. It's the folks living in former East Germany who are going to have a throw down with our bearded friends. They've lived under a totalitarian government and aren't about to willingly sign up for being bossed around by another group of power mad lunatics.
Posted by: F.N.G. at January 29, 2017 02:03 PM (tj7nx)
It's not the people you've come into contact with. It's the folks living in former East Germany who are going to have a throw down with our bearded friends. They've lived under a totalitarian government and aren't about to willingly sign up for being bossed around by another group of power mad lunatics.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (hXu8T)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (SEXy3)
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341 I love this
https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/825708672278003712
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (Om16U)
My, but there were a lot of lecturing Lecture McLecturers in those responses, weren't there? They just can't stop doing it, ever, it seems.
341 I love this
https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/825708672278003712
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 01:58 PM (Om16U)
My, but there were a lot of lecturing Lecture McLecturers in those responses, weren't there? They just can't stop doing it, ever, it seems.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (O1efQ)
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This is the end... my only friend, the end...
Posted by: Jim Morrison at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (DpOmP)
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What do I do when they are knocking on our door? This is hard for me.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
If they are knocking on your door, they are not refugees, they are would-be parasites.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:46 PM (dFi94)
If they are knocking on your door, they are not refugees, they are would-be parasites.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 02:07 PM (LRVnP)
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Wasn't that fat tranny Michael Moore supposed to take a bunch of refugees into his palatial mansion?
Posted by: clint flicker at January 29, 2017 02:08 PM (UWriB)
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I have a wide-stance on this issue...
Posted by: Larry Craig at January 29, 2017 02:08 PM (DpOmP)
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It's the folks living in former East Germany who are going to have a throw down with our bearded friends. They've lived under a totalitarian government and aren't about to willingly sign up for being bossed around by another group of power mad lunatics.
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The former communist nations know what this is.
They are the only ones in Europe that have a chance.
So... Western Europeans had better start learning Polish, Hungarian, Czech and Russian.
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The former communist nations know what this is.
They are the only ones in Europe that have a chance.
So... Western Europeans had better start learning Polish, Hungarian, Czech and Russian.
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 29, 2017 02:09 PM (J5mC3)
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Grammie Winger, I understand your desire to provide hospitality to the suffering. I'm a Christian too.
Does it help to consider our country at war with radical Islam, so the vetting process is in keeping with being "wise as serpents, but harmless as doves"?
Also, our Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord of the Armies. and he doesn't fight on their side. I'm sure of this.
Does it help to consider our country at war with radical Islam, so the vetting process is in keeping with being "wise as serpents, but harmless as doves"?
Also, our Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord of the Armies. and he doesn't fight on their side. I'm sure of this.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 02:10 PM (8mO0Q)
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So they're all out there "protesting" again causing mayhem for the ordinary citizen... Poor darlins are gonna wear themselves out....
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 29, 2017 02:10 PM (O2RFr)
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That's the "shut them up" phrase I use against the left: so you believe the entire planet's population should move to the USA? Because any restriction whatsoever you consider total evil. Clearly you think there should be zero restriction, every single last human should be pulled into the USA. No?
Then you and I agree: there are limits. We're just negotiating where those lie.
Then you and I agree: there are limits. We're just negotiating where those lie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)
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Does it help to consider our country at war with radical Islam, so the
vetting process is in keeping with being "wise as serpents, but harmless
as doves"?
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Yes, that makes sense. On the other hand, I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
uff da
vetting process is in keeping with being "wise as serpents, but harmless
as doves"?
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Yes, that makes sense. On the other hand, I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
uff daPosted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:13 PM (dFi94)
382
I like how this could easily be a Monty Python skit with the abrasive cockney women in the laundromat discussing advanced social topics:
Western Pluralistic Societies are Incompatible With Islam!
Western Pluralistic Societies are Incompatible With Islam!
Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 29, 2017 02:13 PM (Halhc)
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DEVOlution
Posted by: Mark Mothersbaugh at January 29, 2017 02:15 PM (DpOmP)
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the mission field can also be our own circle. much safer then knocking on the door in an Islamic section of town, all alone.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 02:15 PM (8mO0Q)
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So they're all out there "protesting" again causing mayhem for the ordinary citizen... Poor darlins are gonna wear themselves out....
Yeah big crowds of people choking up airports is sure to not annoy weary, frustrated air travelers at all. You don't see Moonies very often but everyone was annoyed by their presence and there were only a couple at each airport.
They keep yelling "wolf" and eventually nobody is going to listen.
Yeah big crowds of people choking up airports is sure to not annoy weary, frustrated air travelers at all. You don't see Moonies very often but everyone was annoyed by their presence and there were only a couple at each airport.
They keep yelling "wolf" and eventually nobody is going to listen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)
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We have a fine tool necessary for all Americans facing today's conditions
Posted by: Oliver Winchester and Benjamin Henry at January 29, 2017 02:16 PM (DpOmP)
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The gumball thing is not very useful. Just because we can't save everyone doesn't mean we can't save some. Or one.
In Ronald Reagans farewell address he told the "hello Freedom man" story.
That is how I want the world to look at the US. And that is also how I want to look at refugees.
Being a generous and loving nation doesn't mean we have to be chumps. We need to tune up our programs so we can accept more people who really need it.
In Ronald Reagans farewell address he told the "hello Freedom man" story.
That is how I want the world to look at the US. And that is also how I want to look at refugees.
Being a generous and loving nation doesn't mean we have to be chumps. We need to tune up our programs so we can accept more people who really need it.
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2017 02:17 PM (HV1LS)
Posted by: Rodney King at January 29, 2017 02:17 PM (DpOmP)
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Have you heard the one about the 'peaceful' muslim???
Posted by: Shecky Soetoro at January 29, 2017 02:18 PM (DpOmP)
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@385
This could all be part of Trump's Chaos Theory of governance.
It could cut both ways though if people become exhausted and just want it all to stop.
Which is what happened during the Iraq War.
The difference is that Trump fights back and doesn't cede ground, initiative or the narrative.
So it's going to be fascinating to see this all play out.
This could all be part of Trump's Chaos Theory of governance.
It could cut both ways though if people become exhausted and just want it all to stop.
Which is what happened during the Iraq War.
The difference is that Trump fights back and doesn't cede ground, initiative or the narrative.
So it's going to be fascinating to see this all play out.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 29, 2017 02:19 PM (+lv+r)
391
I just saw on Twitter that Trump wants to reinstate weapons carried on military bases and recruiting centers. This was one of the dumbest restrictions ever put into practice.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:20 PM (dFi94)
392
Schumer is pathetic. I have never seen him cry over anything else. It's probably opportunistic crying.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)
I will give him something to cry about.....
Come here, Chuck.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)
I will give him something to cry about.....
Come here, Chuck.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 02:20 PM (5VlCp)
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Mattis is beaming like a proud papa showing off his kids to the boss
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/825115402040700930
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/825115402040700930
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 02:21 PM (Om16U)
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Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: Yes.
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: Yes.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 29, 2017 02:21 PM (0tfLf)
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I just saw on Twitter that Trump wants to reinstate weapons carried on military bases and recruiting centers. This was one of the dumbest restrictions ever put into practice.
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Which reminds me of a great Duffel Bag post:
http://bit.ly/2kgN8qT
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Which reminds me of a great Duffel Bag post:
http://bit.ly/2kgN8qT
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 02:22 PM (SEXy3)
396
Yes, that makes sense. On the other hand, I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
uff da
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:13 PM (dFi94)
I say if you help just one person, whatever their circumstances, and you pray about it that's about all you can and should do.
Like Frank Sinatra said, "you can't save everybody".
uff da
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:13 PM (dFi94)
I say if you help just one person, whatever their circumstances, and you pray about it that's about all you can and should do.
Like Frank Sinatra said, "you can't save everybody".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 02:23 PM (5VlCp)
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Father Jonathon was on FNC this morning and agreed with Jeffries and others that our first duty is to provide for and to protect our own.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:48 PM (SEXy3)
U cannot assist the poor if u are poor. It's not like America does not reach out at all. How much is enough? How many do muslim countries take in? Malaysia could take in ALL refugees.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 01:48 PM (SEXy3)
U cannot assist the poor if u are poor. It's not like America does not reach out at all. How much is enough? How many do muslim countries take in? Malaysia could take in ALL refugees.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 29, 2017 02:23 PM (Kz5ms)
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gw, by supporting international organizations, you are doing all that you should. I don't think that if people feel a personal burden to help (real) refugees, that gives them the right to bring them into this country and a) burden everyone with all the problems associated with them b) give part of our national sovereignty away when the original issue was alms. Also bear in mind, a lot of these people are fakes: demanding wifi, 5 star cuisine, going on vacations back to the lands they are supposedly refugees from. Surely charity is a case of triage, and this group of people does not seem to be the most worthy of recipients. Don't let the left bluff and bully you with a lot of incorrect, unstated leaps of illogic.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:23 PM (rH4JY)
399
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my thinking is not right.
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My two cents as an agnostic that nevertheless thinks most Christian values have merit:
1. If I recall my bible reading correctly, the consistent idea was helping everyone in need... to follow a righteous path. Please correct me but my recollection of Christ taking in Mary Magdeline and others was because of their desire to change. Yes, help was unconditional on circumstances but at least somewhat conditional on future intent. If a homeless guy wants money to burn down my house, I don't grab my gas can and give him a lift to the gas station.
2. I don't recall anything in the Bible saying that charity is an obligation or duty of the State. Personally, the most minute suggestion otherwise pisses me off. "We need to help all the children! Give me your money and I will give it to the State to redistribute via 1,000 paid political suck ups." Charity is an individual decision. By all means, donate your money as you see fit. Invite whomever you want to into your home and provide for them as you like. That means YOU take responsibility for them, their well being, and their future actions. No one has any right to force me to shelter or support anyone. You can say I'm terrible for my choice, but it remains my choice. If you shelter and support someone who burns my house down and you bought them the gas and matches, I'm holding you equally accountable no matter how tragic their situation.
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My two cents as an agnostic that nevertheless thinks most Christian values have merit:
1. If I recall my bible reading correctly, the consistent idea was helping everyone in need... to follow a righteous path. Please correct me but my recollection of Christ taking in Mary Magdeline and others was because of their desire to change. Yes, help was unconditional on circumstances but at least somewhat conditional on future intent. If a homeless guy wants money to burn down my house, I don't grab my gas can and give him a lift to the gas station.
2. I don't recall anything in the Bible saying that charity is an obligation or duty of the State. Personally, the most minute suggestion otherwise pisses me off. "We need to help all the children! Give me your money and I will give it to the State to redistribute via 1,000 paid political suck ups." Charity is an individual decision. By all means, donate your money as you see fit. Invite whomever you want to into your home and provide for them as you like. That means YOU take responsibility for them, their well being, and their future actions. No one has any right to force me to shelter or support anyone. You can say I'm terrible for my choice, but it remains my choice. If you shelter and support someone who burns my house down and you bought them the gas and matches, I'm holding you equally accountable no matter how tragic their situation.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 02:24 PM (71OEY)
400
I guess FNC Sunday is now officially part of the communist media. Good to know.
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 02:24 PM (U5kaK)
401
They keep yelling "wolf" and eventually nobody is going to listen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)
That train arrived at the station with the election of Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)
That train arrived at the station with the election of Trump.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 29, 2017 02:25 PM (Kz5ms)
402
Supposedly the Trump administration is looking at changing how official unemployment numbers are listed, eyeing the U5 (includes people who would take work if they could find it but are not on the unemployment rolls) as the more accurate list. if you include "underemployed" people working part time, the U6 number its almost 10%.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:25 PM (39g3+)
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Looks like the ACLU is also getting back to work after their eight year vacation...
Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2017 02:25 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 29, 2017 02:26 PM (V2Yro)
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I don't recall anything in the Bible saying that charity is an
obligation or duty of the State. Personally, the most minute suggestion
otherwise pisses me off. "We need to help all the children! Give me your
money and I will give it to the State to redistribute via 1,000 paid
political suck ups." Charity is an individual decision. By all means,
donate your money as you see fit. Invite whomever you want to into your
home and provide for them as you like. That means YOU take
responsibility for them, their well being, and their future actions. No
one has any right to force me to shelter or support anyone.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 02:24 PM (71OEY)
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I agree with this 100% Damiano
obligation or duty of the State. Personally, the most minute suggestion
otherwise pisses me off. "We need to help all the children! Give me your
money and I will give it to the State to redistribute via 1,000 paid
political suck ups." Charity is an individual decision. By all means,
donate your money as you see fit. Invite whomever you want to into your
home and provide for them as you like. That means YOU take
responsibility for them, their well being, and their future actions. No
one has any right to force me to shelter or support anyone.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 02:24 PM (71OEY)
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I agree with this 100% Damiano
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:27 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 02:27 PM (5VlCp)
407
I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
Missionaries don't have the right to conscript people to go along with them to the mission field.
Likewise, no one has the right to "bring the mission field to 'us'". Because it's not just bringing it to those who personally feel burdened with this particular mission.
They will inflict the dangers, risks, and upkeep of these fake refugees on us all. And we lose part of our sovereignty to them when they vote.
An individual's *personal* burden for charity should be carried out in a way that doesn't violate the rights of his neighbors, that doesn't endanger or steal from them.
Missionaries don't have the right to conscript people to go along with them to the mission field.
Likewise, no one has the right to "bring the mission field to 'us'". Because it's not just bringing it to those who personally feel burdened with this particular mission.
They will inflict the dangers, risks, and upkeep of these fake refugees on us all. And we lose part of our sovereignty to them when they vote.
An individual's *personal* burden for charity should be carried out in a way that doesn't violate the rights of his neighbors, that doesn't endanger or steal from them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:28 PM (rH4JY)
408
I just saw on Twitter that Trump wants to reinstate weapons carried on military bases and recruiting centers. This was one of the dumbest restrictions ever put into practice.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:20 PM (dFi94)
When is Nidal Hassan going to get his sendoff to Hell?
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:20 PM (dFi94)
When is Nidal Hassan going to get his sendoff to Hell?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 02:29 PM (LRVnP)
409
So when will Jeff Session's confirmation vote take place?
Posted by: mro at January 29, 2017 02:30 PM (JBggj)
410
Saudi Arabia has facilities set up for pilgrims for the Hadj. They can accommodate hundreds of thousands of people. They have electricity, running water, AC, you name it. Up to now, the Kingdom has refused to allow any "refugees" to stay there. TFG wasn't interested in changing their minds, but perhaps President Trump can.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 02:30 PM (7qAYi)
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Sean Davis
@seanmdav
If you believe most Muslims are peaceful allies, why on earth would you assume a simple EO would turn them into enablers of terrorism?
Suck on this McLame & Butt Pirate Miss Grahamnesty
@seanmdav
If you believe most Muslims are peaceful allies, why on earth would you assume a simple EO would turn them into enablers of terrorism?
Suck on this McLame & Butt Pirate Miss Grahamnesty
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 02:32 PM (y3aQB)
412
Up to now, the Kingdom has refused to allow any "refugees" to stay
there. TFG wasn't interested in changing their minds, but perhaps
President Trump can.
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$20 a barrel for oil ought to do the trick.
there. TFG wasn't interested in changing their minds, but perhaps
President Trump can.
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$20 a barrel for oil ought to do the trick.
Posted by: mrp at January 29, 2017 02:32 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 02:32 PM (y3aQB)
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U.S. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer on Sunday demanded that President Donald Trump reverse an executive order targeting immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries, saying it makes the United States appear "less humanitarian, less safe, less American."
Yeah, because if we kept the 9-11 attackers out of the country we would have been a lot less safe. Trump was right Schemer is the head clown and a putz
Yeah, because if we kept the 9-11 attackers out of the country we would have been a lot less safe. Trump was right Schemer is the head clown and a putz
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2017 02:33 PM (auHtY)
415
Completely and utterly OT
Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo (be still my heart) is doing a dance contest ticket give-away. Couple have to submit a video entry and the winner gets 2 tickets to a Cubs game (be still my heart again).
I am so doing this.
http://atmlb.com/2kIbkiU
Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo (be still my heart) is doing a dance contest ticket give-away. Couple have to submit a video entry and the winner gets 2 tickets to a Cubs game (be still my heart again).
I am so doing this.
http://atmlb.com/2kIbkiU
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:33 PM (dFi94)
416
Bringing them in in Europe is working out so well with the rapes and murders
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 02:33 PM (0AwCy)
417
#402 Delicious...NYT will have to tell its readers Dear Leaders statistics were fudged for 8 years....alternative statistics....mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:34 PM (N0GqI)
418
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
I think trying to keep refugees safe in camps in their homelands covers scripture obligations
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
I think trying to keep refugees safe in camps in their homelands covers scripture obligations
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 02:35 PM (PtOP4)
419
409
Sessions will be confirmed when McConnell pulls up his girdle and nukes the living shit out of Schumer.
Sessions will be confirmed when McConnell pulls up his girdle and nukes the living shit out of Schumer.
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (U5kaK)
420
What's up, Fake Internet Friends?
I'm still in the land of the living after sliding head first down a slope on Mount Monadnock.
Good to be alive.
I'm still in the land of the living after sliding head first down a slope on Mount Monadnock.
Good to be alive.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jw2Xw)
421
#402 10% unemployment goes well with $15 minimum wage. Moonbeam will have another problem. But he seems immune to them.
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (N0GqI)
422
227 Chuck Schumer cried on camera over Trump's Muslim ban. (Crocodile tears?)
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (bQxkN)
Is it wrong that this fills me with contentment? Okay, so it's wrong. Still.
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (bQxkN)
Is it wrong that this fills me with contentment? Okay, so it's wrong. Still.
Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (1FhAQ)
423
"Senator" Schumer's statements seem to favor 'terrorists'... sounds like he's made himself eligible for a trip to Gitmo... Leroy Jethro Gibbs style...
Posted by: Flaming Clown Boner at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (DpOmP)
424
Delicious...NYT will have to tell its readers Dear Leaders statistics were fudged for 8 years....alternative statistics....mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:34 PM (N0GqI)
Barry: I'm still fudging things. Well packing it..
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:34 PM (N0GqI)
Barry: I'm still fudging things. Well packing it..
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (auHtY)
425
v
Assuming it goes through, my guess is to the extent they mention that it will be one line on A-14 while UNEMPLOYMENT LEAPS UPWARD UNDER PRESIDENT KLAN-NAZI TRUMP!!!! on page 1 in gigantic letters.
Assuming it goes through, my guess is to the extent they mention that it will be one line on A-14 while UNEMPLOYMENT LEAPS UPWARD UNDER PRESIDENT KLAN-NAZI TRUMP!!!! on page 1 in gigantic letters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (39g3+)
426
I'm still in the land of the living after sliding head first down a slope on Mount Monadnock.
Good to be alive.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jw2Xw)
That's not the way you are supposed to do it.
Glad to hear you are on the mend.
Good to be alive.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jw2Xw)
That's not the way you are supposed to do it.
Glad to hear you are on the mend.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 02:38 PM (LRVnP)
427
Delicious...NYT will have to tell its readers Dear Leaders statistics were fudged for 8 years....alternative statistics....mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:34 PM (N0GqI)
I have a feeling Trump's State of the Union Address will be short on platitudes and long on being like a shareholders' meeting, ticking off facts and figures.
Trump's SotUA is the first one I'm looking forward to watching in decades.
Posted by: torabora at January 29, 2017 02:34 PM (N0GqI)
I have a feeling Trump's State of the Union Address will be short on platitudes and long on being like a shareholders' meeting, ticking off facts and figures.
Trump's SotUA is the first one I'm looking forward to watching in decades.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 02:39 PM (32Cwc)
428
Trump's SotUA is the first one I'm looking forward to watching in decades.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 02:39 PM (32Cwc)
Right there with you brother... Can't wait for him to flip the middle finger to Fedzilla
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 02:39 PM (32Cwc)
Right there with you brother... Can't wait for him to flip the middle finger to Fedzilla
Posted by: Ted Nugent at January 29, 2017 02:40 PM (DpOmP)
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One more observation, that may be controversial. The Mt 25 parable of the sheep and the goats has the phrase, "as ye have done for the least of these my brethren, so have ye done for me". Now what does "brethren" mean there? Every individual of mankind without exception? I've heard several preachers (mainstream, not Westboro), say that based on NT usage, "brethren" refers only to fellow Christians, not everybody. Certainly, that's not the only verse on the topic, but it is frequently used in service of some sort of universal Christian duty, and probably has nothing to do with that. Muslims are not the Christians brethren, any more than Richard Dawkins.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:40 PM (rH4JY)
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Geez, one simple line should shut down your idiot sister:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 29, 2017 02:26 PM (V2Yro)
The problem with your statement is that the 1A does not say that. The "Separation of church and state" traces back to a snippet from Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Baptist Association of Danbury, Ct. shortly after he became president.
It was repeated in a Supreme Court ruling in 1947 in Everson vs. Board of Education. This fallacy has remained with us ever since.
Geez, one simple line should shut down your idiot sister:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 29, 2017 02:26 PM (V2Yro)
The problem with your statement is that the 1A does not say that. The "Separation of church and state" traces back to a snippet from Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Baptist Association of Danbury, Ct. shortly after he became president.
It was repeated in a Supreme Court ruling in 1947 in Everson vs. Board of Education. This fallacy has remained with us ever since.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2017 02:40 PM (waSFb)
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I guess FNC Sunday is now officially part of the communist media. Good to know.
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Chris Wallace is an insufferable prog-douche who surrounds himself with insufferable prog-douches.
I guess FNC Sunday is now officially part of the communist media. Good to know.
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Chris Wallace is an insufferable prog-douche who surrounds himself with insufferable prog-douches.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 02:41 PM (Gv7El)
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My sister wants them out of the camps and brought
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
Your sis can get double plus Jesus brownie points if she houses them at her place. And sets up prayer rooms for them where they can face Mecca five times a day and also forbid her family from owning a dog as a pet.
If your sister, or Pope Francis Bogusoglio, or any other Christian terrorist apologist is so concerned about the refugees - tell them to go quote scripture to Bolivian citizens, or Indonesians, or Kuwaitis, or Canadians. It's a big world out there, not limited to our borders.
We're done. We're under no obligation, scriptural or otherwise. And since our nation is not a theocracy, US law is not bound by anybody's holy book anyway.
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
Your sis can get double plus Jesus brownie points if she houses them at her place. And sets up prayer rooms for them where they can face Mecca five times a day and also forbid her family from owning a dog as a pet.
If your sister, or Pope Francis Bogusoglio, or any other Christian terrorist apologist is so concerned about the refugees - tell them to go quote scripture to Bolivian citizens, or Indonesians, or Kuwaitis, or Canadians. It's a big world out there, not limited to our borders.
We're done. We're under no obligation, scriptural or otherwise. And since our nation is not a theocracy, US law is not bound by anybody's holy book anyway.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:41 PM (wTSvK)
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>>> That's not the way you are supposed to do it.
I didn't slide properly the first time so I took another turn.
As I felt my momentum picking up I shouted
"Dagnabbit! This isn't my day!"
I didn't slide properly the first time so I took another turn.
As I felt my momentum picking up I shouted
"Dagnabbit! This isn't my day!"
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:42 PM (jw2Xw)
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It sounds like UK May is just as bad as Merkel--without the EU and a riding crop. WTF happened there?
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 02:42 PM (U5kaK)
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I've read a lot of the arguments, here and elsewhere, for 'arguing' the conservative point of view with liberals. After careful consideration, my new primary talking point is:
Fuck You.
There isn't even a conversation. You bring up liberal shit with me? Even a little bit? Then Fuck You.
Fuck You.
There isn't even a conversation. You bring up liberal shit with me? Even a little bit? Then Fuck You.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 02:43 PM (Sfs6o)
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My sister wants them out of the camps and brought
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
I think trying to keep refugees safe in camps in their homelands covers scripture obligations
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 02:35 PM (PtOP4)
Its not like we don't already help the poor. I get quite irate at being accused of being callous. I get pissed when im FORCED to help someone against my judgment. And yes, I get to judge whom I wish to help.
My sister wants them out of the camps and brought
here now. She throws Scripture in my face and I feel like maybe my
thinking is not right.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 01:54 PM (dFi94)
I think trying to keep refugees safe in camps in their homelands covers scripture obligations
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 02:35 PM (PtOP4)
Its not like we don't already help the poor. I get quite irate at being accused of being callous. I get pissed when im FORCED to help someone against my judgment. And yes, I get to judge whom I wish to help.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at January 29, 2017 02:43 PM (Kz5ms)
Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at January 29, 2017 02:44 PM (0zKHM)
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It takes a lot of gall for the people who made prayer illegal in public schools to now say the government has a Christian duty to refugees.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 02:44 PM (Om16U)
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There are elements of Islam that actually are compatable with western society. It calls for caring for the needy If they're Muslim, opposes things like murder and theft if the victims are Muslim, and directs its people to be law abiding as long as the law is sharia.
Fixed it for ya.
Fixed it for ya.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 02:44 PM (fVubI)
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An individual's *personal* burden for charity should be carried out in a way that doesn't violate the rights of his neighbors, that doesn't endanger or steal from them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:28 PM (rH4JY)
But individuals are not as generous as *we* think they should be. Therefore, we will make charity a mandatory function of the State.
There. We're more virtuous than you.
An individual's *personal* burden for charity should be carried out in a way that doesn't violate the rights of his neighbors, that doesn't endanger or steal from them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:28 PM (rH4JY)
But individuals are not as generous as *we* think they should be. Therefore, we will make charity a mandatory function of the State.
There. We're more virtuous than you.
Posted by: Progressives at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (sdi6R)
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Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:41 PM (wTSvK)
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Even better, she wants our military to go over there and get them. Uff da. You should have heard the conversation I had with her over THAT one.
Fortunately she is a wedding planner and not a member of the State Department.
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Even better, she wants our military to go over there and get them. Uff da. You should have heard the conversation I had with her over THAT one.
Fortunately she is a wedding planner and not a member of the State Department.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (dFi94)
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I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
ummm...in case the Rev hasn't noticed, there are homeless citizens who are camping out in the streets of our own cities. US citizen homeless. US veteran homeless. US mentally ill homeless.
Plenty of mission opportunity there.
Just sayin'.
ummm...in case the Rev hasn't noticed, there are homeless citizens who are camping out in the streets of our own cities. US citizen homeless. US veteran homeless. US mentally ill homeless.
Plenty of mission opportunity there.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (wTSvK)
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Christianity is being used by mixing Liberation Theology in the 1960's into it giving birth to SJWs across the globe. It has zero to do with Christianity. It is 100% political and Marxist. The Pope and the Catholic Church as well as other denominations are exploiting this for political reasons. It is about Global Governance that is Marxist in nature.
Obama is seen by the Muslim world as being Muslim. In reality he is a Global Governance advocates and is Marxist.
Christianity and Islam are being used as pawns to advance Global Marxist Governance. Islam is already political in nature. Christianity has been perverted by Liberation Theology to self destruct. Both are being used to destroy the West.
Obama is seen by the Muslim world as being Muslim. In reality he is a Global Governance advocates and is Marxist.
Christianity and Islam are being used as pawns to advance Global Marxist Governance. Islam is already political in nature. Christianity has been perverted by Liberation Theology to self destruct. Both are being used to destroy the West.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:46 PM (emywJ)
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I have a feeling Trump's State of the Union Address will be short on platitudes and long on being like a shareholders' meeting, ticking off facts and figures.
I would love for that to be his approach. And it makes sense: here's how the "business" is doing and what we must do to turn around the bad and encourage the good. Here's what needs doing, here's what we're doing, here's what is good and what has to go.
I would love for that to be his approach. And it makes sense: here's how the "business" is doing and what we must do to turn around the bad and encourage the good. Here's what needs doing, here's what we're doing, here's what is good and what has to go.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)
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I think trying to keep refugees safe in camps in their homelands covers scripture obligations
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
I think these "refugees" are above the minimum level under which scriptural obligations fall.
"Gleaners" in Biblical times would starve to death if they were not allowed to glean. These people, rejecting the cuisine of their hosts and demanding internet access are several levels above that.
They may be *relatively* worse off than people in western lands, but on an *absolute* level, they seem to be doing ok, based on conditions in Biblical times.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
I think these "refugees" are above the minimum level under which scriptural obligations fall.
"Gleaners" in Biblical times would starve to death if they were not allowed to glean. These people, rejecting the cuisine of their hosts and demanding internet access are several levels above that.
They may be *relatively* worse off than people in western lands, but on an *absolute* level, they seem to be doing ok, based on conditions in Biblical times.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 02:46 PM (rH4JY)
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Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (dFi94)
Listen, I don't mean to disrespect anyone's family. Although God knows I do enough dissing of my own kin. I'm just sick of the empathy Olympics occurring over the Trump bans when there are so many US citizens who are suffering and needed help and everyone's CONCERN - yesterday.
Listen, I don't mean to disrespect anyone's family. Although God knows I do enough dissing of my own kin. I'm just sick of the empathy Olympics occurring over the Trump bans when there are so many US citizens who are suffering and needed help and everyone's CONCERN - yesterday.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:47 PM (wTSvK)
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I've got Rev telling me "We don't have to go to the mission field! It 's coming to us!"
Tell him "sweetie we are the mission field." Missionaries from Africa and Asia are coming to the USA.
Tell him "sweetie we are the mission field." Missionaries from Africa and Asia are coming to the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)
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Weasel, I did that today, on FB. someone called what I said moronic, and it felt so GR8 to write fcuk you. mispelled it on purpose. because OM did.
great point, votermom. I'm encouraged by this. When the left appeals to our Christianity, we know they're desparate.
great point, votermom. I'm encouraged by this. When the left appeals to our Christianity, we know they're desparate.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 02:49 PM (8mO0Q)
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ummm...in case the Rev hasn't noticed, there are
homeless citizens who are camping out in the streets of our own cities.
US citizen homeless. US veteran homeless. US mentally ill homeless.
Plenty of mission opportunity there.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (wTSvK)
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Oh he knows. And he does. He helps people and gives things away left and right. Last week he gave his coat away. It's January. In Wisconsin. He had to dig up his old high school letterman jacket out of storage. He's 63 years old. It doesn't fit so well anymore.
homeless citizens who are camping out in the streets of our own cities.
US citizen homeless. US veteran homeless. US mentally ill homeless.
Plenty of mission opportunity there.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:45 PM (wTSvK)
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Oh he knows. And he does. He helps people and gives things away left and right. Last week he gave his coat away. It's January. In Wisconsin. He had to dig up his old high school letterman jacket out of storage. He's 63 years old. It doesn't fit so well anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (dFi94)
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Christianity encourages you to act as Christ would.
Islam encourages you to act as Muhammed would.
The evidence seems to show that there are plenty of excellent Muslims.
Islam encourages you to act as Muhammed would.
The evidence seems to show that there are plenty of excellent Muslims.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (aBDYc)
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Right there with you brother... Can't wait for him to flip the middle finger to Fedzilla
Posted by: Ted Nugent at January 29, 2017 02:40 PM (DpOmP)
And you know the doubleplus good beauty of it is? Just like with Trump's inauguration speech, Congress and SCOTUS are going to have to sit there, shut up and listen. Couldn't happen to better bunch of worthless bastards and bastardettes (with limited exceptions; thank you Justice Thomas).
Posted by: Ted Nugent at January 29, 2017 02:40 PM (DpOmP)
And you know the doubleplus good beauty of it is? Just like with Trump's inauguration speech, Congress and SCOTUS are going to have to sit there, shut up and listen. Couldn't happen to better bunch of worthless bastards and bastardettes (with limited exceptions; thank you Justice Thomas).
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (32Cwc)
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Does this meme work backwards? ...
You want: Jews burned at the stake.
You'll take: a mob of Islamic holocaust-deniers.
You'll call it: a "discussion".
...why yes, I believe it does.
You want: Jews burned at the stake.
You'll take: a mob of Islamic holocaust-deniers.
You'll call it: a "discussion".
...why yes, I believe it does.
Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (TXZ1v)
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I actually welcome it when some leftist tries to use the Bible or Christianity against me as a Christian. First, it helps humble me and forces me to recognize my sin and failure to glorify God. My actions should show Him, and be blameless to the world. I am no good at that. I lost my temper here and attacked a guy I have never even met, and I apologize for that Rick.
Second, they don't understand Christianity and don't know the Bible, so its a great chance to educate them and show them the truth, if in just a little bit.
Third, it forces topics to the forefront that they have spent most of their lives trying to suppress and get people to forget, and I always welcome that.
I don't need to win. I don't need to convince them. I just need to in love and humility defend the Truth. God will take care of the rest. In the end both their and my knee will bow and both their and my lips will confess Jesus Christ is LORD.
Second, they don't understand Christianity and don't know the Bible, so its a great chance to educate them and show them the truth, if in just a little bit.
Third, it forces topics to the forefront that they have spent most of their lives trying to suppress and get people to forget, and I always welcome that.
I don't need to win. I don't need to convince them. I just need to in love and humility defend the Truth. God will take care of the rest. In the end both their and my knee will bow and both their and my lips will confess Jesus Christ is LORD.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (39g3+)
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Chuck Schumer cried on camera over Trump's Muslim ban. (Crocodile tears?)
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (bQxkN)
Is it wrong that this fills me with contentment? Okay, so it's wrong. Still.
Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (1FhAQ)
One his little tricks he probably learned from an actor (besides himself). He also had some sad small children and the father standing with him...(on camera, of course)
Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 01:15 PM (bQxkN)
Is it wrong that this fills me with contentment? Okay, so it's wrong. Still.
Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at January 29, 2017 02:37 PM (1FhAQ)
One his little tricks he probably learned from an actor (besides himself). He also had some sad small children and the father standing with him...(on camera, of course)
Posted by: Colin at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (nxlAK)
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The Pope and the Catholic Church
maybe the Pope, but not the Church. The people comprise the Body of Christ - the Catholic Church. This Pope is a fucktard and so are many of the advisers around him. I pray for them to be purged every single day.
This pope is great for the nominal Catholics to glom onto though. The Catholics who never avail themselves of the sacraments, just use the church to maintain a social calendar and virtue signal their moral superiority to their asshole SJW FB "friends".
maybe the Pope, but not the Church. The people comprise the Body of Christ - the Catholic Church. This Pope is a fucktard and so are many of the advisers around him. I pray for them to be purged every single day.
This pope is great for the nominal Catholics to glom onto though. The Catholics who never avail themselves of the sacraments, just use the church to maintain a social calendar and virtue signal their moral superiority to their asshole SJW FB "friends".
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:51 PM (wTSvK)
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It takes a lot of gall for the people who made prayer illegal in public schools to now say the government has a Christian duty to refugees.
Posted by: @votermom @vm
Oh, you noticed that too, didn't you?
How convenieeeeeeeent so summon up Christianity when you need it.
Posted by: @votermom @vm
Oh, you noticed that too, didn't you?
How convenieeeeeeeent so summon up Christianity when you need it.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at January 29, 2017 02:51 PM (S6Pax)
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Just found out about the AMC return of MASH; yay!!
Thirty (or more precisely, 23ish) of the best moments in television history: "Officer of the Day":
Frank (referring to the OD paraphernalia): "There's even a sash and sword that goes with it!"
Hawkeye: "That's in case we're attacked by the Saracens."
I know women especially are mourning the death of MTM, because of what Mary Richards meant to them.
Me? I'll fall apart when Alda goes. Early Hawkeye (1-5) was who I aspired to be when I was a kid.
Never became a Dr., but I nailed the smartassery.
Just found out about the AMC return of MASH; yay!!
Thirty (or more precisely, 23ish) of the best moments in television history: "Officer of the Day":
Frank (referring to the OD paraphernalia): "There's even a sash and sword that goes with it!"
Hawkeye: "That's in case we're attacked by the Saracens."
I know women especially are mourning the death of MTM, because of what Mary Richards meant to them.
Me? I'll fall apart when Alda goes. Early Hawkeye (1-5) was who I aspired to be when I was a kid.
Never became a Dr., but I nailed the smartassery.
Posted by: voiceover at January 29, 2017 02:51 PM (4XgZ/)
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Tell him "sweetie we are the mission field." Missionaries from Africa and Asia are coming to the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)
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I know. How sad is that?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)
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I know. How sad is that?
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:52 PM (dFi94)
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He's 63 years old. It doesn't fit so well anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (dFi94)
How much charity does he think Jesus demands from us? There was only One perfect man - the Lord. And He already made the supreme sacrifice for all of humanity.
I have not seen one passage of Scripture that requires us to self-immolate in his name.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:50 PM (dFi94)
How much charity does he think Jesus demands from us? There was only One perfect man - the Lord. And He already made the supreme sacrifice for all of humanity.
I have not seen one passage of Scripture that requires us to self-immolate in his name.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:53 PM (wTSvK)
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I asked Logan Green if I can use his spare bedroom. We'll see if he replies.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 02:53 PM (IV9al)
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I think a "reformation" of Islam rejecting all teachings and additions by all clerics and judges to Islam for the past 700 years or so would be a great start.
Leaving us with the Koran and Hadith and various commentaries, which all still agree on the holiness of murder and theft and the filth of non-Muslims.
Then they could examine the text and consider portions about conquest and abuse of women to be "negated" by other portions on love and humility
Except the peace-love-and-understanding BS was said before the conquest stuff, and Mohammed specifically said they're to follow the last thing he said.
and the portions on how to run a country to be "civil" law only applicable to Muhammad's rulership of Arabia.
Except Mohammed said they were to conquer the world.
What you're saying is, "Islam would be OK, if it weren't Islam". Which no one would argue with, but we may as well wish we were all back in our 20ish bodies with all the knowledge we have now and fantastically rich to boot.
Your fantasies aren't possible, and the rest of us have to live in the real world. That real world features a murderous, conquering Islam.
Leaving us with the Koran and Hadith and various commentaries, which all still agree on the holiness of murder and theft and the filth of non-Muslims.
Then they could examine the text and consider portions about conquest and abuse of women to be "negated" by other portions on love and humility
Except the peace-love-and-understanding BS was said before the conquest stuff, and Mohammed specifically said they're to follow the last thing he said.
and the portions on how to run a country to be "civil" law only applicable to Muhammad's rulership of Arabia.
Except Mohammed said they were to conquer the world.
What you're saying is, "Islam would be OK, if it weren't Islam". Which no one would argue with, but we may as well wish we were all back in our 20ish bodies with all the knowledge we have now and fantastically rich to boot.
Your fantasies aren't possible, and the rest of us have to live in the real world. That real world features a murderous, conquering Islam.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 02:54 PM (fVubI)
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I have not seen one passage of Scripture that requires us to self-immolate in his name.
Posted by: kallisto
2 Immolations
I have not seen one passage of Scripture that requires us to self-immolate in his name.
Posted by: kallisto
2 Immolations
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 29, 2017 02:54 PM (IqV8l)
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the left is so orgasmically cheering for the destruction of western/christian culture that it's willing to kill themselves while choking their perverbial chicken
Posted by: David Carradine at January 29, 2017 02:54 PM (DpOmP)
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435 I've read a lot of the arguments, here and elsewhere, for 'arguing' the conservative point of view with liberals. After careful consideration, my new primary talking point is:
Fuck You.
There isn't even a conversation. You bring up liberal shit with me? Even a little bit? Then Fuck You.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 02:43 PM (Sfs6o)
My go-to now, as well.
435 I've read a lot of the arguments, here and elsewhere, for 'arguing' the conservative point of view with liberals. After careful consideration, my new primary talking point is:
Fuck You.
There isn't even a conversation. You bring up liberal shit with me? Even a little bit? Then Fuck You.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 02:43 PM (Sfs6o)
My go-to now, as well.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 02:55 PM (nQ10o)
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I know. How sad is that?
In fairness, when I was a child, all the priests in north Alabama were Irish missionaries.
In fairness, when I was a child, all the priests in north Alabama were Irish missionaries.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 02:55 PM (IV9al)
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I'm going to take the political side of my earlier argument.
I think the immigration system in the U.S. is a giant clusterfuck and support getting rid of every bit of it in it's entirety. If you want to come here... come on. The door is open. With one big exception: You want to come here because you think doing so offers you the freedom to pursue a better life. No guarantees. No handouts. No outcomes. You make your own way and you understand that you're leaving behind wherever and whatever you came from in preference for this option. It doesn't mean that this option is perfect. It's not. You choose what is best for you but you do not get to choose what is best for me. I am under no obligation to accommodate or integrate with the stuff you chose to leave behind.
Example: I love Mexico. I spent several months in Central/ Southern Mexico and got to know the people and culture a bit. It's a beautiful place. They have a sense of family that the US has lost, a work ethic that no longer exists here, and several other values and attributes that I think are far better than what I've seen living and working in over 38 US states.
The downside that I can't comprehend is that they have surrendered their short and long term well being to the State. They allow their potential to be determined and limited by what the State allows. Alas, a country that is absolutely stunning and has equal or more resources of every sort compared to any country in the world suffers and struggles when, with just by virtue of work ethic alone, they should be the riches nation on earth. They keep looking for "someone" to "lead" them and the most enterprising people I've ever met are relegated to poverty and dependency. They sacrificed freedom for security and got neither.
We're not doing much better here. We forgot that, even with the best intentions, the State can only limit potential. We've forgotten everything that allowed this country to go from a destitute upstart to the wealth and freedom provider of the world in a generation and grow faster and farther than an civiliazation in human history from there.
Back to my point: everyone is welcome who is willing to accept both the consequences and benefits of freedom and wants a different way of life than what they're leaving behind. If you want to wax poetic and vie for the better days of wherever you came from or how much better somewhere else is... go live there.
I think the immigration system in the U.S. is a giant clusterfuck and support getting rid of every bit of it in it's entirety. If you want to come here... come on. The door is open. With one big exception: You want to come here because you think doing so offers you the freedom to pursue a better life. No guarantees. No handouts. No outcomes. You make your own way and you understand that you're leaving behind wherever and whatever you came from in preference for this option. It doesn't mean that this option is perfect. It's not. You choose what is best for you but you do not get to choose what is best for me. I am under no obligation to accommodate or integrate with the stuff you chose to leave behind.
Example: I love Mexico. I spent several months in Central/ Southern Mexico and got to know the people and culture a bit. It's a beautiful place. They have a sense of family that the US has lost, a work ethic that no longer exists here, and several other values and attributes that I think are far better than what I've seen living and working in over 38 US states.
The downside that I can't comprehend is that they have surrendered their short and long term well being to the State. They allow their potential to be determined and limited by what the State allows. Alas, a country that is absolutely stunning and has equal or more resources of every sort compared to any country in the world suffers and struggles when, with just by virtue of work ethic alone, they should be the riches nation on earth. They keep looking for "someone" to "lead" them and the most enterprising people I've ever met are relegated to poverty and dependency. They sacrificed freedom for security and got neither.
We're not doing much better here. We forgot that, even with the best intentions, the State can only limit potential. We've forgotten everything that allowed this country to go from a destitute upstart to the wealth and freedom provider of the world in a generation and grow faster and farther than an civiliazation in human history from there.
Back to my point: everyone is welcome who is willing to accept both the consequences and benefits of freedom and wants a different way of life than what they're leaving behind. If you want to wax poetic and vie for the better days of wherever you came from or how much better somewhere else is... go live there.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 02:55 PM (71OEY)
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455 The Pope and the Catholic Church
maybe the Pope, but not the Church. The people comprise the Body of Christ - the Catholic Church. This Pope is a fucktard and so are many of the advisers around him. I pray for them to be purged every single day.
This pope is great for the nominal Catholics to glom onto though. The Catholics who never avail themselves of the sacraments, just use the church to maintain a social calendar and virtue signal their moral superiority to their asshole SJW FB "friends".
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:51 PM (wTSv
The Pope and the institution of the Catholic Church. Just like those at the top of Protestant institutions are mixing Liberation Theology with the Bible. It is Marxist in Nature and deceives Christians to adopting beliegs and working towards goals that are not Christian.
maybe the Pope, but not the Church. The people comprise the Body of Christ - the Catholic Church. This Pope is a fucktard and so are many of the advisers around him. I pray for them to be purged every single day.
This pope is great for the nominal Catholics to glom onto though. The Catholics who never avail themselves of the sacraments, just use the church to maintain a social calendar and virtue signal their moral superiority to their asshole SJW FB "friends".
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 02:51 PM (wTSv
The Pope and the institution of the Catholic Church. Just like those at the top of Protestant institutions are mixing Liberation Theology with the Bible. It is Marxist in Nature and deceives Christians to adopting beliegs and working towards goals that are not Christian.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:55 PM (emywJ)
468
Not sure if Terry Moran of ABC News had any semblance of objectivity, but if he did it's completely gone now.
Posted by: Independent George at January 29, 2017 02:56 PM (neNSV)
469
When Chuck Schumer speaks, nobody listens
Posted by: EF Hutton at January 29, 2017 02:57 PM (DpOmP)
470
If you want to come here... come on. The door is open.
I'm sorry, no. We don't need any immigration. Not a bit. I would put a complete hiatus on it for the next 40 years while we digest the many millions we have already legally taken in.
I'm sorry, no. We don't need any immigration. Not a bit. I would put a complete hiatus on it for the next 40 years while we digest the many millions we have already legally taken in.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 02:57 PM (IV9al)
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You're right, it is directed only to fellow Muslims or those under Muslim rule (to a lesser extent). However it wouldn't take much for that to be shifted to mean "everyone" in a proper reformation of the religion.
More fantasy. Your "not take much" means rewriting the Koran, and eliminating all the copies of it as it is.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Stop looking for diamonds in the cesspit.
More fantasy. Your "not take much" means rewriting the Koran, and eliminating all the copies of it as it is.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Stop looking for diamonds in the cesspit.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 02:57 PM (fVubI)
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How much charity does he think Jesus demands from us?
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I don't know, but I can tell you he hasn't begun to reach the limit yet. Ha! He lives with an open hand. I just hope I don't come home one day and find he's given away my shoe collection. That would be major trouble.
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I don't know, but I can tell you he hasn't begun to reach the limit yet. Ha!
He lives with an open hand. I just hope I don't come home one day and find he's given away my shoe collection. That would be major trouble.Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:58 PM (dFi94)
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470 If you want to come here... come on. The door is open.
I'm sorry, no. We don't need any immigration. Not a bit. I would put a complete hiatus on it for the next 40 years while we digest the many millions we have already legally taken in.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 02:57 PM (
By digest I assume you mean deposit them back from their county of orgin?
I'm sorry, no. We don't need any immigration. Not a bit. I would put a complete hiatus on it for the next 40 years while we digest the many millions we have already legally taken in.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 02:57 PM (
By digest I assume you mean deposit them back from their county of orgin?
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:59 PM (emywJ)
474
Why is Howard Kurtz yelling and launching spittle at my TV set?
Posted by: Under Fire at January 29, 2017 02:59 PM (U5kaK)
475
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 02:49 PM (8mO0Q)
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Yeah! Plus, I think that almost any discussion, or agreeing to disagree, legitimizes they're alternative point of view. A hearty F U lets them know they are contemptuous and beneath your attention.
I was in a roomfull of family - all hardcore liberal - last night and the election and politics never came up. Not because they respect any boundaries, they know I think they're all retards and don't mind saying so openly and frankly.
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Yeah! Plus, I think that almost any discussion, or agreeing to disagree, legitimizes they're alternative point of view. A hearty F U lets them know they are contemptuous and beneath your attention.
I was in a roomfull of family - all hardcore liberal - last night and the election and politics never came up. Not because they respect any boundaries, they know I think they're all retards and don't mind saying so openly and frankly.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 02:59 PM (Sfs6o)
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Counseling, plush toys, and coloring books need to be made available, on a rush basis, to Michael Medved. It's the compassionate thing to do, in a non-denominational, even secular, sense.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:01 PM (QDnY+)
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Islam can have a reformation movement. It probably will have one.
It has one. It's called the Muslim Brotherhood, and al'Qaeda, and ISIS.
It has one. It's called the Muslim Brotherhood, and al'Qaeda, and ISIS.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:01 PM (fVubI)
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I'm on this thread late and don't know if any #FAKENEWS has been discussed.
My FAKENEWS item for Jan 29, 2017 comes from NPR. They were on a tear this morning. Don't know the show, however it was a breakdown of the Trump White House relations with the press.
First the female narrator delivered a recital of some Trump tweets - in a mocking voice and intonation. Then she and her male counterpart went into a litany of Trump's "spectacular lies", including that of the crowd size. Oblivious to the fact that CNN published a picture of the crowd that confirms what Trump had said about the "sea of love".
They quoted a Commie shill professor who declared that voter fraud is "insignificant". Then alked about the "Fog of Confusion" that Trump White House is creating. One of the alleged lies they attributed to Trump was his statement that his CIA speech was a home run.
"AHAHAHA, nay nay", scoffed the NPR toadies. It was NOT a home run. Why it was savaged by EVERY PUNDIT the next day."
My FAKENEWS item for Jan 29, 2017 comes from NPR. They were on a tear this morning. Don't know the show, however it was a breakdown of the Trump White House relations with the press.
First the female narrator delivered a recital of some Trump tweets - in a mocking voice and intonation. Then she and her male counterpart went into a litany of Trump's "spectacular lies", including that of the crowd size. Oblivious to the fact that CNN published a picture of the crowd that confirms what Trump had said about the "sea of love".
They quoted a Commie shill professor who declared that voter fraud is "insignificant". Then alked about the "Fog of Confusion" that Trump White House is creating. One of the alleged lies they attributed to Trump was his statement that his CIA speech was a home run.
"AHAHAHA, nay nay", scoffed the NPR toadies. It was NOT a home run. Why it was savaged by EVERY PUNDIT the next day."
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:02 PM (wTSvK)
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476 Counseling, plush toys, and coloring books need to be made available, on a rush basis, to Michael Medved. It's the compassionate thing to do, in a non-denominational, even secular, sense.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:01 PM (QDnY+)
Has Medved shit the bed, too?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:01 PM (QDnY+)
Has Medved shit the bed, too?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:03 PM (nQ10o)
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Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 02:58 PM (dFi94)
You got yourself a good, good man, grammie. May the two of you enjoy so many beautiful years together in service to each other and the Lord.
I am just tired of a-holes who know nothing about the sacrifices I've made, the faith journey I've walked...using my religion to club me over the head in order to enable a Communist Globalist Agenda.
You got yourself a good, good man, grammie. May the two of you enjoy so many beautiful years together in service to each other and the Lord.
I am just tired of a-holes who know nothing about the sacrifices I've made, the faith journey I've walked...using my religion to club me over the head in order to enable a Communist Globalist Agenda.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:04 PM (wTSvK)
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Pepe, I agree with you. the Pope just keeps chucking in the LT. when people trot him out to beef up their argument, that's what I mention. Then I get the blank stare.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 03:04 PM (8mO0Q)
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By digest I assume you mean deposit them back from their county of orgin?
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:59 PM (emywJ)
I would assume it means "melt them down in the melting pot, and forge them into Americans". If they are refractory, and refuse to melt, punt them out.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:59 PM (emywJ)
I would assume it means "melt them down in the melting pot, and forge them into Americans". If they are refractory, and refuse to melt, punt them out.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2017 03:04 PM (LRVnP)
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"AHAHAHA, nay nay", scoffed the NPR toadies. It was NOT a home run. Why it was savaged by EVERY PUNDIT the next day."
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:02 PM (wTSvK)
DEFUND these asswipes. My tax dollars should NOT be supporting them.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:02 PM (wTSvK)
DEFUND these asswipes. My tax dollars should NOT be supporting them.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:05 PM (nQ10o)
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Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 02:55 PM (emywJ)
I know Pepe, the same story as in politics: the elitists vs. the people.
I know Pepe, the same story as in politics: the elitists vs. the people.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (wTSvK)
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Sadly I don't think Islam can have a Reformation. There will be much blood spilled before Islam is detected, peaceful reform is preferred but it will not happen.
Posted by: Usntakim at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (hMqvx)
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Ladylibertarian, just being compassionate and getting ahead of the curve on Medved - under the reliable assumption that this current s**t-storm in a teacup will compel him to exhibit his full arsenal of ignorance and moral narcissism. Actually he's funny because he dips into fairly crude real anti-Muslim bigotry now and then (or used to, anyway), but then morphs into a smug stupid moral narcissist with idiotic policy preferences when it comes to mass illegal migration (a completely different and unrelated topic).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (QDnY+)
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The original point of Islam was to unite the various Arabic warlords so they would stop fighting each other, and Muhammed could then use them to fight his enemies - who were Jewish and pagan Arabs.
He promised his followers they would conquery Rum (Rome), which at the time meant Constantinople. Today the Muslims say the same thing, but they mean Rome and London and New York and Chicago and Los Angeles and Sydney and Tokyo and...
He promised his followers they would conquery Rum (Rome), which at the time meant Constantinople. Today the Muslims say the same thing, but they mean Rome and London and New York and Chicago and Los Angeles and Sydney and Tokyo and...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (fVubI)
488
Sent my support note on all that he has done in his first week to the President on the whitehouse.gov site.
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (AkcYt)
489
Defeated..... Damn. Autocucumber.
Posted by: Usntakim at January 29, 2017 03:07 PM (hMqvx)
490
It doesn't really matter what any of us think about refugees or migrants or the so-called muslim ban. It doesn't matter what any of our lefty friends & relatives think about it. We can't do anything to change - or structurally support - national policy. It doesn't matter if you think everyone should come live in America, or we should lock the door & throw away the key - no of us can set policy. It's all just sound & fury, signifying nothing. Love those around you as much as you can, pray for those in need, and look at yourself to see what you need to change to be a better servant of God.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 03:07 PM (7qAYi)
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islam, on the other hand, is a firmly and irretrievably tribal ideology.
This -- Islam is tribal "morality" with a thin gloss of monotheism.
This -- Islam is tribal "morality" with a thin gloss of monotheism.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:07 PM (fVubI)
492
479
Has Medved shit the bed, too?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:03 PM (nQ10o)
That happened a long time ago, by my reckoning.
Has Medved shit the bed, too?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:03 PM (nQ10o)
That happened a long time ago, by my reckoning.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 03:09 PM (sdi6R)
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>>> DEFUND these asswipes. My tax dollars should NOT be supporting them.
They claim to be mostly supported by donations. They won't miss Uncle Sugar.
They claim to be mostly supported by donations. They won't miss Uncle Sugar.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 03:09 PM (jw2Xw)
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"AHAHAHA, nay nay", scoffed the NPR toadies. It was NOT a home run. Why it was savaged by EVERY PUNDIT the next day."
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:02 PM (wTSvK)
I'm guessing the budget for Corporation for Public Broadcasting doesn't make it into fiscal year 2018.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:02 PM (wTSvK)
I'm guessing the budget for Corporation for Public Broadcasting doesn't make it into fiscal year 2018.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2017 03:09 PM (jK8Z7)
495
President Trump's latest tweet promises that we are going to help Christians who are being persecuted. Now that's what I'm talking about!
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 03:09 PM (8mO0Q)
Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast (allegedly) at January 29, 2017 03:09 PM (DpOmP)
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486 Ladylibertarian, just being compassionate and getting ahead of the curve on Medved - under the reliable assumption that this current s**t-storm in a teacup will compel him to exhibit his full arsenal of ignorance and moral narcissism. Actually he's funny because he dips into fairly crude real anti-Muslim bigotry now and then (or used to, anyway), but then morphs into a smug stupid moral narcissist with idiotic policy preferences when it comes to mass illegal migration (a completely different and unrelated topic).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (QDnY+)
Try live streaming the Rich Zeoli show on 1210 AM Philadelphia instead of subjecting yourself to Medved. He's a solid conserva-tarian & funny as hell.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (QDnY+)
Try live streaming the Rich Zeoli show on 1210 AM Philadelphia instead of subjecting yourself to Medved. He's a solid conserva-tarian & funny as hell.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 03:10 PM (7qAYi)
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David J Wasserstein almost five years ago asked "So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?" He answers "Islam saved Jewry."
The Byzantine-era Copts thought the same thing. Some of them idiotically welcomed the Muslim conquest as a way to get out from under the thumb of Constantinople -- Constantinople and Alexandria frequently having doctrinal disputes, plus more than a little political ambition.
Do you think the modern Copts think their ancestors made a good bargain?
The Byzantine-era Copts thought the same thing. Some of them idiotically welcomed the Muslim conquest as a way to get out from under the thumb of Constantinople -- Constantinople and Alexandria frequently having doctrinal disputes, plus more than a little political ambition.
Do you think the modern Copts think their ancestors made a good bargain?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:10 PM (fVubI)
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That's a pretty gross overstatement, but as lousy as life was under Islamic conquest, it was better than what the Christians did to Jews later.
Uh-huh. That's why there are a few dozen Jews still alive in Arab countries today.
Uh-huh. That's why there are a few dozen Jews still alive in Arab countries today.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:11 PM (fVubI)
500
I'm guessing the budget for Corporation for Public Broadcasting doesn't make it into fiscal year 2018.
I think they figure they've been threatened before and it always goes away. The big difference is that now the GOP has a leader who wants the funding to go way too, and is very angry at them.
I think they figure they've been threatened before and it always goes away. The big difference is that now the GOP has a leader who wants the funding to go way too, and is very angry at them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)
501
Caesar, seriously? Did someone replace almost the entire congressional GOP when I wasn't looking?
The executive, astonishingly enough, may its most serious occupant in a generation, or generations (an idiosyncratic real estate tycoon).
But the elected GOP is still dominated by the small, talentless, irresponsible sub-mediocrities who were an integral part of what got the country to where it is at the moment.
The executive, astonishingly enough, may its most serious occupant in a generation, or generations (an idiosyncratic real estate tycoon).
But the elected GOP is still dominated by the small, talentless, irresponsible sub-mediocrities who were an integral part of what got the country to where it is at the moment.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:12 PM (QDnY+)
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This -- Islam is tribal "morality" with a thin gloss of monotheism.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:07 PM (fVubI)
A fine example of this tribal 'morality' is the quaint custom of 'blood money'.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:07 PM (fVubI)
A fine example of this tribal 'morality' is the quaint custom of 'blood money'.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 03:12 PM (32Cwc)
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well, it is interesting how everyone has been screaming in the press that it is religious discrimination to bar people from these seven countries.
we should wonder if islam is a religion or political ideology. lots of muslims do not make a distinction or even behave as if it is a political ideology.
we should wonder if islam is a religion or political ideology. lots of muslims do not make a distinction or even behave as if it is a political ideology.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:13 PM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 29, 2017 03:13 PM (tHwdc)
505
Bleeding hearts come in all types, including Evangelicals I guess.
Why have a criminal justice system, after all, shouldn't we forgive the murders and rapists?
The idea that Christianity obligates up to take in the whole world, many of which are commanded by their religion to slaughter us, is complete lunacy.
Why have a criminal justice system, after all, shouldn't we forgive the murders and rapists?
The idea that Christianity obligates up to take in the whole world, many of which are commanded by their religion to slaughter us, is complete lunacy.
Posted by: xanax at January 29, 2017 03:14 PM (uamg/)
506
Merely noting there are some positive things to Islam does not mean, he endorses the religion, approves it or is virtue signalling.
Yes, it does. There is nothing good in Islam that is new, and nothing new that is good.
Yes, it does. There is nothing good in Islam that is new, and nothing new that is good.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 29, 2017 03:14 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Shoey at January 29, 2017 03:14 PM (OYK2S)
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Try live streaming the Rich Zeoli show on 1210 AM Philadelphia instead of subjecting yourself to Medved. He's a solid conserva-tarian & funny as hell.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 03:10 PM (7qAYi)
Years ago,nI used to listen to Medved on Rush, I think. I liked him a lot back then.
But if he has turned squishy, I don't want anything to do with him. Not in these times, which are dangerous indeed.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 03:10 PM (7qAYi)
Years ago,nI used to listen to Medved on Rush, I think. I liked him a lot back then.
But if he has turned squishy, I don't want anything to do with him. Not in these times, which are dangerous indeed.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:14 PM (nQ10o)
509
It's getting close top the time we treat the Middle East like we treated Germany and Japan.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:15 PM (bKxiT)
510
we should wonder if islam is a religion or political
ideology. lots of muslims do not make a distinction or even behave as
if it is a political ideology.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:13 PM (cPsPa)
When you're smack dab in the middle of a thing, objective discussion is difficult even if you desire it. Do they? I don't think so. But it is absolutism. Jesus made that distinction within Christianity. Mohammed did not - just the opposite.
ideology. lots of muslims do not make a distinction or even behave as
if it is a political ideology.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:13 PM (cPsPa)
When you're smack dab in the middle of a thing, objective discussion is difficult even if you desire it. Do they? I don't think so. But it is absolutism. Jesus made that distinction within Christianity. Mohammed did not - just the opposite.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (tHwdc)
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>>> I'm sorry, no. We don't need any immigration. Not a bit. I would put a complete hiatus on it for the next 40 years while we digest the many millions we have already legally taken in.
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I find it hard to disagree and, generally, I'm with you.
Where i differ is that I view the problem as our abandonment of the principles and ideals that made us great.
For sake of argument: we slam the doors and no one comes in. Ok. I can support that for a variety of reasons. What are we left with?
What is see is several generations of worthless imbeciles who should have gone to a vocational school or worked their way up while getting paid to learn a trade demanding $100k starting salaries while producing nothing but "workplace fairness" demands and liabilities. Fuck them.
I do not believe in "American Jobs" any more than I believe in government dictating wage rates or how a workplace functions. If you're unwilling to work for the value of the job, you're welcome to go accept the real minimum wage of zero. You have that freedom. Th job still needs to be done and your latte sipping, SJW marching ass isn't going to pay 10x as much for me to hire your classmates.
I fully support securing borders, building walls, and launching every person in violation of any US law over the nearest border with a catapult, even if said border is with an ocean. If you're not willing to live and work here under American law and customs, I fully support your shortest, cheapest and fastest way out. Where I differ is that the same condition applies to people born here but I have to support and seek to vilify, imprison, and/ or bankrupt me. By all means, take your double major masters degree in poly sic and wimmenz studies over to Afghanistan and go on your crusade for Muslim rights and gay freedoms. Let me know how that works out for you.
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I find it hard to disagree and, generally, I'm with you.
Where i differ is that I view the problem as our abandonment of the principles and ideals that made us great.
For sake of argument: we slam the doors and no one comes in. Ok. I can support that for a variety of reasons. What are we left with?
What is see is several generations of worthless imbeciles who should have gone to a vocational school or worked their way up while getting paid to learn a trade demanding $100k starting salaries while producing nothing but "workplace fairness" demands and liabilities. Fuck them.
I do not believe in "American Jobs" any more than I believe in government dictating wage rates or how a workplace functions. If you're unwilling to work for the value of the job, you're welcome to go accept the real minimum wage of zero. You have that freedom. Th job still needs to be done and your latte sipping, SJW marching ass isn't going to pay 10x as much for me to hire your classmates.
I fully support securing borders, building walls, and launching every person in violation of any US law over the nearest border with a catapult, even if said border is with an ocean. If you're not willing to live and work here under American law and customs, I fully support your shortest, cheapest and fastest way out. Where I differ is that the same condition applies to people born here but I have to support and seek to vilify, imprison, and/ or bankrupt me. By all means, take your double major masters degree in poly sic and wimmenz studies over to Afghanistan and go on your crusade for Muslim rights and gay freedoms. Let me know how that works out for you.
Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (71OEY)
512
Both me and my sister/BiL love Rich Zeoli
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (0AwCy)
513
Really can't find an update on that guy who yelled and allegedly kicked that hajib clad TSA employee...does anyone else have an update on this guy?
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (AkcYt)
514
josephistan talk radio is mere infotainment at best, and consumed intermittently, and almost entirely just to see what the meme du jour is. Never listened to Medved much, but even short exposures sufficed to illustrate his ignorance and almost amusingly fierce moral narcissism about illegal migration. He's at the level of the more loathsome Dem elected race-baiters, or some religious figures.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (QDnY+)
515
The left is losing it's mind over the "immigration ban". Love it!
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:16 PM (hVdx9)
516
Some maniac watched too much Python
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDnE-5lD7w8
http://www.foxnews.com/us/
2017/01/29/catholic-bishop-attacked
-on-altar-during-mass-for-
baseball-hall-famer.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDnE-5lD7w8
http://www.foxnews.com/us/
2017/01/29/catholic-bishop-attacked
-on-altar-during-mass-for-
baseball-hall-famer.html
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2017 03:17 PM (8J/Te)
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Islam has no place in the modern world, it is a Dark Age Death Cult.
Posted by: Shoey at January
well maybe it has a place, not that I am going to argue for it, but it is going to be up to the moderate muslims to shove some sort of reformation through and briing it up to date.
not sure why everyone wants to say that all religions and cultures are equal. when you look at the behavior of isis it is clear they are on par with the aztecs except that they do not leave behind cool buildings, they blow up other people's cool buildings.
Posted by: Shoey at January
well maybe it has a place, not that I am going to argue for it, but it is going to be up to the moderate muslims to shove some sort of reformation through and briing it up to date.
not sure why everyone wants to say that all religions and cultures are equal. when you look at the behavior of isis it is clear they are on par with the aztecs except that they do not leave behind cool buildings, they blow up other people's cool buildings.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:17 PM (cPsPa)
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488 Sent my support note on all that he has done in his first week to the President on the whitehouse.gov site.
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (AkcYt)
How did you send your message? I clicked on "email" there but nothing came up.
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 29, 2017 03:06 PM (AkcYt)
How did you send your message? I clicked on "email" there but nothing came up.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 29, 2017 03:17 PM (nQ10o)
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I'm pretty sure that when Germany finally does wake up that they are going to kill a shit ton of people. It's one of the things that they are good at.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January 29, 2017 03:20 PM (qfFuc)
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When you're smack dab in the middle of a thing, objective discussion is difficult even if you desire it. Do they? I don't think so. But it is absolutism. Jesus made that distinction within Christianity. Mohammed did not - just the opposite.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
oh yeah I agree they may not have perspective necessary to do what needs doing.
your point on Christianity is right on. the benefits of Christianity as a moral structure have been immensely beneficial to the West, maybe even the reason for its success. despite what everyone says, there is no equivalent in any other religion.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
oh yeah I agree they may not have perspective necessary to do what needs doing.
your point on Christianity is right on. the benefits of Christianity as a moral structure have been immensely beneficial to the West, maybe even the reason for its success. despite what everyone says, there is no equivalent in any other religion.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:21 PM (cPsPa)
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NPR propaganda hour...Part II
The report gave passing mention to the fact that Trump White House is much more welcoming to the press, contrary to Obama, whose staff used to shoo them out of the East Room. I thought: wow, an actual tidbit of truthiness there.
But the way they framed it is that Trump is doing this simply to create Political Theater to keep all the world, except those sharp and insightful NPR dweebs - in the Fog of Confusion.
(Can't get anything past those intellectually gifted NPR dweebs.)
The report gave passing mention to the fact that Trump White House is much more welcoming to the press, contrary to Obama, whose staff used to shoo them out of the East Room. I thought: wow, an actual tidbit of truthiness there.
But the way they framed it is that Trump is doing this simply to create Political Theater to keep all the world, except those sharp and insightful NPR dweebs - in the Fog of Confusion.
(Can't get anything past those intellectually gifted NPR dweebs.)
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:22 PM (wTSvK)
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And this is why I'm okay with the idea of leaving NATO. In a generation or two, Europe will be transformed into what it was in 1930's. Our sons and daughters should not fight for people who won't fight for themselves.
Posted by: Mike at January 29, 2017 03:22 PM (c056A)
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I'm pretty sure that when Germany finally does wake up that they are going to kill a shit ton of people. It's one of the things that they are good at.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January
curious they decided they would keep the ability to make fantastic weapons in case they ever had to depussify their eurotrash citizenry.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January
curious they decided they would keep the ability to make fantastic weapons in case they ever had to depussify their eurotrash citizenry.
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:22 PM (cPsPa)
524
I'll believe the Hollyweird celebs are serious about helping the refugees when they set up refugee housing in Malibu. Until then, STFU.
Posted by: duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 03:24 PM (kTF2Z)
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ladylibertarian, I went to contact us, and then chose email.
Posted by: booknlass at January 29, 2017 03:24 PM (8mO0Q)
526
"Sadly I don't think Islam can have a Reformation."
The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won.
The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (w7KSn)
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509 It's getting close top the time we treat the Middle East like we treated Germany and Japan.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:15 PM (bKxiT)
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Do you also imply that we not treat them like we treated Vietnam?
509 It's getting close top the time we treat the Middle East like we treated Germany and Japan.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:15 PM (bKxiT)
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Do you also imply that we not treat them like we treated Vietnam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (EZebt)
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The "press" has become incredibly, measurable *worse* than it was just 10 years ago - when it was already so bad we had a country in hysterics over a broken levy in New Orleans and a very small, historically easy war that was essentially over.
Just glancing at some wire service stories (these are the lifeblood and basic raw material of almost all "news"), I am gobsmacked at the errors and distortion (and I was directly involved in preventing/rebutting this sort of stuff for years).
From AZ, an AP story begins "To build his highly touted deportation force".
WTFF? What the hell are they talking about? There never was, never will be, a "deportation force". Deportation is merely one component of enforcement of immigration law (in all countries, at all times), one which has gone on un-interrupted for decades.
As with today's insane panic over a very limited and temporary adjustment in admissions practices, all "reporting" on this reflects complete ignorance of reality and history - and depends on same from the audience.
Old news, I know. But to those who have been involved and observing for decades, it really seems like things have gone over a new cliff, to mangle a metaphor.
Just glancing at some wire service stories (these are the lifeblood and basic raw material of almost all "news"), I am gobsmacked at the errors and distortion (and I was directly involved in preventing/rebutting this sort of stuff for years).
From AZ, an AP story begins "To build his highly touted deportation force".
WTFF? What the hell are they talking about? There never was, never will be, a "deportation force". Deportation is merely one component of enforcement of immigration law (in all countries, at all times), one which has gone on un-interrupted for decades.
As with today's insane panic over a very limited and temporary adjustment in admissions practices, all "reporting" on this reflects complete ignorance of reality and history - and depends on same from the audience.
Old news, I know. But to those who have been involved and observing for decades, it really seems like things have gone over a new cliff, to mangle a metaphor.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Why have a criminal justice system, after all, shouldn't we forgive the murders and rapists?
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Was that part of the discussion?
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Bleeding hearts come in all types, including Evangelicals I guess.
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I don't think my heart bleeds, but I do take seriously the commands of Jesus, and wrestle with what that means for my life. If you're seeing a link to a leftist agenda, I think you are mistaken. I'm speaking of a personal, practical action I can take myself. I am not talking about a national tax-payer supported program that makes it compulsory for all citizens.
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Was that part of the discussion?
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Bleeding hearts come in all types, including Evangelicals I guess.
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I don't think my heart bleeds, but I do take seriously the commands of Jesus, and wrestle with what that means for my life. If you're seeing a link to a leftist agenda, I think you are mistaken. I'm speaking of a personal, practical action I can take myself. I am not talking about a national tax-payer supported program that makes it compulsory for all citizens.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 29, 2017 03:26 PM (dFi94)
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SPECIFICALLY dyothelete Christianity, like Nestorianism and Catholicism, has been good at defining a Church that can advise and admonish the king, like Nathan advised and admonished David.
Byzantine Christianity had more of a problem here, so tended to despotism.
Byzantine Christianity had more of a problem here, so tended to despotism.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 03:26 PM (RFX56)
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Good to be alive.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jw2Xw)
Glad you are still with us!
Good to be alive.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jw2Xw)
Glad you are still with us!
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:27 PM (wTSvK)
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SNOW!
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 29, 2017 03:28 PM (cPsPa)
533
They're = their. F autocorrect, too.
In my latest scathing email to the Governor of Virginia, I mentioned the PRESIDENT TRUMP is simply trying to have an honest conversation on immigration by enacting common sense border controls. So far, crickets.,..
In my latest scathing email to the Governor of Virginia, I mentioned the PRESIDENT TRUMP is simply trying to have an honest conversation on immigration by enacting common sense border controls. So far, crickets.,..
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 03:29 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 03:29 PM (SEXy3)
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So basically since 1900 we have a wealthy Global Class seeking Global Governance as a end game. They are Marxist-Athiests but claim the banner of their "religion" to advance political and financial ends giving zero fucks about the loss of life across the globe.
This is not about Chistianity, Islam, or Judaism. It's about Marxism, whose end game is total control, seizing property including human capital, and being on top when the transfer of power and wealth is complete.
This is not about Chistianity, Islam, or Judaism. It's about Marxism, whose end game is total control, seizing property including human capital, and being on top when the transfer of power and wealth is complete.
Posted by: Pepe, sign the damn National Divorce Papers! at January 29, 2017 03:30 PM (emywJ)
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526 "Sadly I don't think Islam can have a Reformation."
The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (w7KSn)
Yes. ISIS *is* pure and true Islam.
The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (w7KSn)
Yes. ISIS *is* pure and true Islam.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 03:30 PM (sdi6R)
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Sadly I think navybrat is right for the foreseeable future. Wahhabism/other extremist branches *are* the reformation - they squeezed out the mystical branches like Sufism and other moderate sects. The classical Muslim world produced Al Ghazali, Avicenna, Averroes...the modern Muslim world puts fatwas on their few remaining intellectuals.
The head choppers have indeed won.
The head choppers have indeed won.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 03:31 PM (+PEqr)
538
Yes. Next question.
Posted by: Colin S Fincter at January 29, 2017 03:31 PM (0a1T6)
539
Old news, I know. But to those who have been involved and observing for decades, it really seems like things have gone over a new cliff, to mangle a metaphor.
Legacy media played around the edges of creating the Narrative that bullied GOPes into submission during the "W" years. But when Obama got elected, the Propaganda Machine was unleashed and used to its fullest effect. They will continue. However they're missing a huge piece of the puzzle: more and more Americans are getting their news from alt media.
The NPR report I'm describing also mocked the fact that Trump was allowing alt media types into the press conferences. HEY LEGACY: 2008 called, it wants its information highway back.
Legacy media played around the edges of creating the Narrative that bullied GOPes into submission during the "W" years. But when Obama got elected, the Propaganda Machine was unleashed and used to its fullest effect. They will continue. However they're missing a huge piece of the puzzle: more and more Americans are getting their news from alt media.
The NPR report I'm describing also mocked the fact that Trump was allowing alt media types into the press conferences. HEY LEGACY: 2008 called, it wants its information highway back.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:33 PM (wTSvK)
540
When one of your social justice Christian friends throws his or her religiosity at you, ask them if their beliefs extend to being enslaved or crucified. These may very well be the end times we are facing - I plan on being raptured but the run up may be dicey.
Posted by: Patrick Henry at January 29, 2017 03:35 PM (a7IXj)
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205 The individual has no place in islam, other than his use as a weapon of the ideology
In one sense, yes, but at its core Islam is the observation of five very basic acts:
Charity to fellow Muslims
Trip to Mecca at least once
Pray 5 times a day toward Mecca
Declare Allah to be the only god and Muhammad his prophet
Fast on Ramadan
So in another sense it is very individual. Those literally are all you have to do to be a Muslim and make it to paradise (eventually). Death in jihad is merely an express train to paradise -- everyone goes to hell, but the faithful only a short time to pay for their sins in life, then they go to paradise.
Keep in mind that Roman Catholicism was an all-encompassing system of government, art, education, science, philosophy, etc until the Reformation as well.
But the tribal Arabic aspects of Islam are probably the greatest barrier to any sort of beneficial change to the religion, I agree.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)
Responding to an old post that has probably already been addressed, but the first pillar "Charity to fellow Muslims" is pure tribalism, and not individualistic at all. I'm not an expert on Islam by a long shot, but does the Koran have anything like "Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you" or the parable of the good Samaritan, or any of the many admonitions to put others, regardless of their faith, before oneself? THAT is the core of practical (as opposed to theological) Christianity (and I presume Judaism).
In one sense, yes, but at its core Islam is the observation of five very basic acts:
Charity to fellow Muslims
Trip to Mecca at least once
Pray 5 times a day toward Mecca
Declare Allah to be the only god and Muhammad his prophet
Fast on Ramadan
So in another sense it is very individual. Those literally are all you have to do to be a Muslim and make it to paradise (eventually). Death in jihad is merely an express train to paradise -- everyone goes to hell, but the faithful only a short time to pay for their sins in life, then they go to paradise.
Keep in mind that Roman Catholicism was an all-encompassing system of government, art, education, science, philosophy, etc until the Reformation as well.
But the tribal Arabic aspects of Islam are probably the greatest barrier to any sort of beneficial change to the religion, I agree.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 29, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)
Responding to an old post that has probably already been addressed, but the first pillar "Charity to fellow Muslims" is pure tribalism, and not individualistic at all. I'm not an expert on Islam by a long shot, but does the Koran have anything like "Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you" or the parable of the good Samaritan, or any of the many admonitions to put others, regardless of their faith, before oneself? THAT is the core of practical (as opposed to theological) Christianity (and I presume Judaism).
Posted by: Average Guy at January 29, 2017 03:36 PM (LMcFk)
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THE PENTAGON - In news that has every sailor and Marine in the Department of the Navy literally wailing with inconsolable grief, President Trump recently announced the nomination of a former soldier to be the next Secretary of the Navy, thus officially replacing the "greatest naval hero of the last century," Ray Mabus.
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LOL!
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LOL!
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:36 PM (CRotO)
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Trump is not are Presdent!!! We will continue to recognose Presdent Obamal as are Presdent. We love are Presdent of Color and everything his has done for persons of coler !!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (Soon to be Obamaboro) Vt at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (Fbj4h)
544
I remember when Bush was the 'Literal' Hitler of the Moment....
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (CRotO)
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It's probably also worth noting that even Kamal Ataturk seemed to think the answer to this question was "Yes." He didn't seek to reform Islam, but rather to secularize Turkey.
And of course, it didn't take - the cancer was only in remission.
And of course, it didn't take - the cancer was only in remission.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (+PEqr)
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http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=69999
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:38 PM (CRotO)
548
544 I remember when Bush was the 'Literal' Hitler of the Moment....
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (oVJmc)
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I remember when Mitt Romney was not only literally Hitler, but he also gave people cancer.
So...Trump is a step up?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (oVJmc)
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I remember when Mitt Romney was not only literally Hitler, but he also gave people cancer.
So...Trump is a step up?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 29, 2017 03:39 PM (qiXpZ)
549
Bush also lied about are Black Presdent just like Trummp !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (Soon to be Obamaboro) Vt at January 29, 2017 03:40 PM (Fbj4h)
550
Can we also defund NPR and withdraw federal support from CPB member stations?
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 03:40 PM (Sfs6o)
551
time for Wing Attack Plan R
Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at January 29, 2017 03:41 PM (DpOmP)
552
Lay off the airplane glue, M-Clog.
Posted by: fluffy at January 29, 2017 03:42 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 03:43 PM (VBsKP)
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My FAKENEWS item for Jan 29, 2017 comes from NPR. They were on a tear this morning. Don't know the show, however it was a breakdown of the Trump White House relations with the press.
...
Posted by: kallisto
Ooooooohh... NPR!
Please...please...obliterate it. That is another wart on the ass of America that Trump the dermatologist needs to take his scapel to.
...
Posted by: kallisto
Ooooooohh... NPR!
Please...please...obliterate it. That is another wart on the ass of America that Trump the dermatologist needs to take his scapel to.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 03:43 PM (rH4JY)
555
Trump the dermatologist needs to take his scapel to.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 03:43 PM (rH4JY)
They should be relegated to satellite radio, IOW subscriber paid.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 03:43 PM (rH4JY)
They should be relegated to satellite radio, IOW subscriber paid.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:44 PM (UnMRd)
556
527
509 It's getting close top the time we treat the Middle East like we treated Germany and Japan.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:15 PM (bKxiT)
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Do you also imply that we not treat them like we treated Vietnam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (EZebt)
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Yes we had some fun in Nam but they say we can't do that any more because it's not nice and it doesn't spread happy thoughts to the bad guys.
509 It's getting close top the time we treat the Middle East like we treated Germany and Japan.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:15 PM (bKxiT)
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Do you also imply that we not treat them like we treated Vietnam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2017 03:25 PM (EZebt)
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Yes we had some fun in Nam but they say we can't do that any more because it's not nice and it doesn't spread happy thoughts to the bad guys.
Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 29, 2017 03:44 PM (bKxiT)
557
Week 1. They are just going to end up really pissing him off. That is when the fun starts.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (89T5c)
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I don't want to sound like an eyore or a phony concern troll, but I have a feeling this "Muslim ban"--even though it's really neither--isn't going to end well--for us.
The media and the left and the lawyers and the GOPe squishes have all sunk their teeth into this thing and I don't see how they can let go without Trump capitulating and reversing. And that would be bad because it would be portrayed as a Trump loss.
But if Trump sticks to his guns and doesn't rescind, repeal or reverse, I can see the protests growing larger and larger until the the "middle'-- that is the people who elected Trump-- say 'enough. Let them stay."
That would be worse. Because it would be a loss AND it would show that Trump could go to far even for his own base.
Beyond that, this is a mess. The reporting, the moral posturing, the phony righteous indignation , the virtue-signaling ---and the hypocrisy because no one mentions Obama pulled a similar thing in 2011--is stomach turning.
The media and the left and the lawyers and the GOPe squishes have all sunk their teeth into this thing and I don't see how they can let go without Trump capitulating and reversing. And that would be bad because it would be portrayed as a Trump loss.
But if Trump sticks to his guns and doesn't rescind, repeal or reverse, I can see the protests growing larger and larger until the the "middle'-- that is the people who elected Trump-- say 'enough. Let them stay."
That would be worse. Because it would be a loss AND it would show that Trump could go to far even for his own base.
Beyond that, this is a mess. The reporting, the moral posturing, the phony righteous indignation , the virtue-signaling ---and the hypocrisy because no one mentions Obama pulled a similar thing in 2011--is stomach turning.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)
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Here's why stolen valor gets ignored.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/28/heres-why-stolen-valor-goes-ignored/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/28/heres-why-stolen-valor-goes-ignored/
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (CRotO)
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everything I need to know about islam I learned on 9-11
Posted by: Original Jake
I required a little more. But when I saw the Iraqi and Palestinian mothers dressing their toddlers up in suicide vest costumes (complete with empty medicine bottles as the "dynamite"), when I kept hearing reports about Christian genocides, etc., etc., etc. then I knew enough. What might have been the mindset of an isolated band of nuts was the norm.
Posted by: Original Jake
I required a little more. But when I saw the Iraqi and Palestinian mothers dressing their toddlers up in suicide vest costumes (complete with empty medicine bottles as the "dynamite"), when I kept hearing reports about Christian genocides, etc., etc., etc. then I knew enough. What might have been the mindset of an isolated band of nuts was the norm.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 03:47 PM (rH4JY)
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Responding to an old post that has probably already
been addressed, but the first pillar "Charity to fellow Muslims" is pure
tribalism, and not individualistic at all. I'm not an expert on Islam
by a long shot, but does the Koran have anything like "Love your
enemies, and pray for those who persecute you" or the parable of the
good Samaritan, or any of the many admonitions to put others, regardless
of their faith, before oneself? THAT is the core of practical (as
opposed to theological) Christianity (and I presume Judaism).
Posted by: Average Guy at January 29, 2017 03:36 PM (LMcFk)
Well, there is no Golden Rule in islam. Linky in nic (jihad watch).
been addressed, but the first pillar "Charity to fellow Muslims" is pure
tribalism, and not individualistic at all. I'm not an expert on Islam
by a long shot, but does the Koran have anything like "Love your
enemies, and pray for those who persecute you" or the parable of the
good Samaritan, or any of the many admonitions to put others, regardless
of their faith, before oneself? THAT is the core of practical (as
opposed to theological) Christianity (and I presume Judaism).
Posted by: Average Guy at January 29, 2017 03:36 PM (LMcFk)
Well, there is no Golden Rule in islam. Linky in nic (jihad watch).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (P/kVC)
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#558 Here is the thing, the average American is not against a "Muslim ban".
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (hVdx9)
563
It's become abundantly clear that the media and the Democrats and the SJW's are not going to ever let up on Trump. Anything he proposes or tries to get done is going to be attacked.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)
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Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)
Revolution is never easy.
One benefit of what is now occurring is that the masks are getting ripped off the squishes and the quislings.
Revolution is never easy.
One benefit of what is now occurring is that the masks are getting ripped off the squishes and the quislings.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:50 PM (UnMRd)
565
YES
Posted by: Jim at January 29, 2017 03:50 PM (QED/Z)
566
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)
Thi is one of the reasons I am glad I do not have and do not watch TV. I only get reports of what the left is carrying on about on here or other internet sites and I try to avoid things connected with news programs.
Well, we can let them all in-no temporary ban and the next terrorist attack from someone from those countries will be entirely on the heads of people who cannot say no for the sake of their political agenda.
Thi is one of the reasons I am glad I do not have and do not watch TV. I only get reports of what the left is carrying on about on here or other internet sites and I try to avoid things connected with news programs.
Well, we can let them all in-no temporary ban and the next terrorist attack from someone from those countries will be entirely on the heads of people who cannot say no for the sake of their political agenda.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 03:51 PM (fDdVG)
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#558 Here is the thing, the average American is not against a "Muslim ban".
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (hVdx9)
I totally agree. But many of the same people who would support this also have a low tolerance level for chaos, the kind of chaos that it's become obvious the forces against Trump are bent on creating.
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (hVdx9)
I totally agree. But many of the same people who would support this also have a low tolerance level for chaos, the kind of chaos that it's become obvious the forces against Trump are bent on creating.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:51 PM (7uYFy)
568
545 AHAHAHA!
A former ground-pounder running the anchor-knockers.
Priceless.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (CRotO)
The Trump administration is proving to be quite entertaining so far.
A former ground-pounder running the anchor-knockers.
Priceless.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:37 PM (CRotO)
The Trump administration is proving to be quite entertaining so far.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (sdi6R)
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563 It's become abundantly clear that the media and the Democrats and the SJW's are not going to ever let up on Trump. Anything he proposes or tries to get done is going to be attacked.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)
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Your concerns are valid, but there's another game that's also being played.
Congress is still working on that ACA repeal. Are the protesters noticing? Is the media?
When will they notice? When the votes are being case to repeal/replace or after?
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)
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Your concerns are valid, but there's another game that's also being played.
Congress is still working on that ACA repeal. Are the protesters noticing? Is the media?
When will they notice? When the votes are being case to repeal/replace or after?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (qiXpZ)
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (VBsKP)
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But if Trump sticks to his guns and doesn't rescind,
repeal or reverse, I can see the protests growing larger and larger
until the the "middle'-- that is the people who elected Trump-- say
'enough. Let them stay."
That would be worse. Because it would be a loss AND it would show that Trump could go to far even for his own base.
Beyond that, this is a mess. The reporting, the moral posturing, the
phony righteous indignation , the virtue-signaling ---and the
hypocrisy because no one mentions Obama pulled a similar thing in
2011--is stomach turning.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)
Gird your loins.The underlying position of the protesters is that they hate America and wants its borders disolved. The average man senses that.
repeal or reverse, I can see the protests growing larger and larger
until the the "middle'-- that is the people who elected Trump-- say
'enough. Let them stay."
That would be worse. Because it would be a loss AND it would show that Trump could go to far even for his own base.
Beyond that, this is a mess. The reporting, the moral posturing, the
phony righteous indignation , the virtue-signaling ---and the
hypocrisy because no one mentions Obama pulled a similar thing in
2011--is stomach turning.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:46 PM (7uYFy)
Gird your loins.The underlying position of the protesters is that they hate America and wants its borders disolved. The average man senses that.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 29, 2017 03:53 PM (P/kVC)
572
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (7uYFy)
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THIS. Absolutely correct. So if he tries to tip-toe through the issues - the strategy the left and much of the GOP would love, love, love him to take - he still loses and pisses off his base, too. I think the only strategy available is to do exactly what he's doing by delivering on campaign promises and letting chips fall where they may.
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THIS. Absolutely correct. So if he tries to tip-toe through the issues - the strategy the left and much of the GOP would love, love, love him to take - he still loses and pisses off his base, too. I think the only strategy available is to do exactly what he's doing by delivering on campaign promises and letting chips fall where they may.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 03:53 PM (Sfs6o)
573
@570 Moby troll?
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2017 03:53 PM (HV1LS)
574
JoeF., no. Even you don't seem to understand what you're saying.
Which is, the plenary power of the president to implement immigration and admissions policy, as based on existing law, is void.
If a tiny, temporary and unobjectionable change to admissions policy for countries representing a negligible case-load of the total is politically impossible, then Trump should just resign now.
As noted by others, for good reasons this policy is not unpopular.
One thing that would be nice - as in ALL confrontations of this sort - is for the administration to not just stay the course and make small marginal statements. They need to attack with 100 megatons, common sense, facts, and law. Snarking about press distortion is not 10% of what's needed (nor has been, for years).
If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Which is, the plenary power of the president to implement immigration and admissions policy, as based on existing law, is void.
If a tiny, temporary and unobjectionable change to admissions policy for countries representing a negligible case-load of the total is politically impossible, then Trump should just resign now.
As noted by others, for good reasons this policy is not unpopular.
One thing that would be nice - as in ALL confrontations of this sort - is for the administration to not just stay the course and make small marginal statements. They need to attack with 100 megatons, common sense, facts, and law. Snarking about press distortion is not 10% of what's needed (nor has been, for years).
If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
575
When I look back on week 1, I think of the Gene Wilder line in Blazing Saddles.
Oh, don't shoot him, you'll just make him mad.
Oh, don't shoot him, you'll just make him mad.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (kTF2Z)
576
We need some smart people to come up with a new metric by which to measure President Trump's success. I will call it the Liberal Pain Index, or LPI.
Posted by: Weasel at January 29, 2017 03:55 PM (Sfs6o)
577
Shortly after 911 happened I studied Islam, read the Koran, the Hadiths, the Suras, etc.
A very good on line translation can be found at U of Virginia web site.
Jefferson studied it too, for the same reason I did.
We wanted to find out what motivates these people who think that you can murder, rape, subjugate and pirate your way in to heaven.
I suggest everyone do the same. I takes about a month or so.
You will discover the most horrific things, such as, lying to the infidel is not only permitted, but encouraged.
Which is why you really can't believe the first word out of the their mouths. Why any fool would enter in to a treaty with them is beyond comprehension.
Many other equally disgusting practices are revealed in every chapter and verse.
I came away a different person after my readings.
A very good on line translation can be found at U of Virginia web site.
Jefferson studied it too, for the same reason I did.
We wanted to find out what motivates these people who think that you can murder, rape, subjugate and pirate your way in to heaven.
I suggest everyone do the same. I takes about a month or so.
You will discover the most horrific things, such as, lying to the infidel is not only permitted, but encouraged.
Which is why you really can't believe the first word out of the their mouths. Why any fool would enter in to a treaty with them is beyond comprehension.
Many other equally disgusting practices are revealed in every chapter and verse.
I came away a different person after my readings.
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2017 03:55 PM (w7KSn)
578
574 If a tiny, temporary and unobjectionable change to admissions policy for countries representing a negligible case-load of the total is politically impossible, then Trump should just resign now.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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All the rage at a relatively small admin change. What will it look like when actual legislation gets to Trump's desk that they don't like?
How will the squishy middle see it?
How will the moderate Republicans who stayed home in 2016 because Trump was uncouth?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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All the rage at a relatively small admin change. What will it look like when actual legislation gets to Trump's desk that they don't like?
How will the squishy middle see it?
How will the moderate Republicans who stayed home in 2016 because Trump was uncouth?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 29, 2017 03:56 PM (qiXpZ)
579
I can't say it out loud enough because it calms me somewhat from the seething anger I'm feeling . So I will repeat.
When the inevitable happens and we are subject to another terrorist attack, please let the victims be these freaking protesters and these politicians with the crocodile tears and not the people who support protecting America.
When the inevitable happens and we are subject to another terrorist attack, please let the victims be these freaking protesters and these politicians with the crocodile tears and not the people who support protecting America.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 29, 2017 03:56 PM (IDPbH)
580
This is still up?
At Barnes and noble with the kid, and it's reminding me that there's going to be some kick ass kids books on our 45th president
Gotta write one. Including pussycat hats and crybullies
At Barnes and noble with the kid, and it's reminding me that there's going to be some kick ass kids books on our 45th president
Gotta write one. Including pussycat hats and crybullies
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 29, 2017 03:56 PM (x8dxu)
581
Nood. Food.
Posted by: olddog in mo at January 29, 2017 03:56 PM (Dhht7)
582
@558 do not have a spirit of fear.
You think if Trump suddenly reverses course that Lefties will suddenly be, oh, okay it's cool now.
Government rules catch people in the corners. Lefties screamed about green card holders. DHS clarifies no not green card holders. Did the Left say okay cool?
No.
You think if Trump suddenly reverses course that Lefties will suddenly be, oh, okay it's cool now.
Government rules catch people in the corners. Lefties screamed about green card holders. DHS clarifies no not green card holders. Did the Left say okay cool?
No.
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2017 03:56 PM (HV1LS)
583
Of all the signs I saw during the two or three minutes of televised protests I watched-- before I wanted to vomit--the worst was one that said "WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS NOW!"
I couldn't see who was holding the sign but I bet it wasn't even a Muslim and I wanted to grab that person and say, 'you dumbfuck, that's exactly what THEY want!
I couldn't see who was holding the sign but I bet it wasn't even a Muslim and I wanted to grab that person and say, 'you dumbfuck, that's exactly what THEY want!
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2017 03:57 PM (7uYFy)
584
When will they notice? When the votes are being case to repeal/replace or after?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (qiXpZ)
The lobbyist ban is also flying under the radar. This would appeal to most normies and libertarian types. Hell, even some Bernie bros should like them a lobbyist ban.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (qiXpZ)
The lobbyist ban is also flying under the radar. This would appeal to most normies and libertarian types. Hell, even some Bernie bros should like them a lobbyist ban.
Posted by: kallisto at January 29, 2017 03:58 PM (UnMRd)
585
If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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Fortunately, he does not back down. He doubles down.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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Fortunately, he does not back down. He doubles down.
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 03:59 PM (nkgRA)
586
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 03:52 PM (sdi6R)
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Yes it is.
To be fair, a kumquat would serve the Navy better than Mabus has.
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Yes it is.
To be fair, a kumquat would serve the Navy better than Mabus has.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 03:59 PM (CRotO)
587
Although not a believer, I used to contribute to Voice of the Martyrs. I can't imagine ever contributing to a Muslim cause, until they get their shit together, and as others have observed, that will almost certainly never happen. Charity is triage, and needs to be directed with care.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 03:59 PM (rH4JY)
588
We need some smart people to come up with a new metric by which to measure President Trump's success. I will call it the Liberal Pain Index, or LPI.
The Lamentation of the Women.
The Lamentation of the Women.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 03:59 PM (rMwfh)
589
Oh look.
Back to keeping a body count.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/us-service-member-killed-in-yemen-raid-on-sunday-three-injured
Back to keeping a body count.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/us-service-member-killed-in-yemen-raid-on-sunday-three-injured
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (CRotO)
590
Of all the signs I saw during the two or three minutes of televised protests I watched-- before I wanted to vomit--the worst was one that said "WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS NOW!"
I couldn't see who was holding the sign but I bet it wasn't even a Muslim and I wanted to grab that person and say, 'you dumbfuck, that's exactly what THEY want!
Posted by: JoeF.
That is the sign Michael Moore held up when he protested at Trump Tower several months ago.
Even their retardedness is derivative. Sad.
I couldn't see who was holding the sign but I bet it wasn't even a Muslim and I wanted to grab that person and say, 'you dumbfuck, that's exactly what THEY want!
Posted by: JoeF.
That is the sign Michael Moore held up when he protested at Trump Tower several months ago.
Even their retardedness is derivative. Sad.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (rH4JY)
591
If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2017 04:02 PM (fDdVG)
593
Here is the thing, the average American is not against a "Muslim ban".
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (hVdx9)
The average American is sick of the violence from the left. See the recent video from Portland, OR where the pedestrians are cheering on the cops applying wood shampoos to protesters blocking a bus. In Portland FFS!
People want a return to law and order, to real justice, not some social justice bullshit where safe space is provided to riot risk free.
Trump now has the bully pulpit and a Twitter account, and he knows how to use both.
So let them scream. They are not helping themselves.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 29, 2017 03:48 PM (hVdx9)
The average American is sick of the violence from the left. See the recent video from Portland, OR where the pedestrians are cheering on the cops applying wood shampoos to protesters blocking a bus. In Portland FFS!
People want a return to law and order, to real justice, not some social justice bullshit where safe space is provided to riot risk free.
Trump now has the bully pulpit and a Twitter account, and he knows how to use both.
Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2017 04:03 PM (32Cwc)
594
The future is war with islam.
the more the west imports moslems the more terror there is.
they hate the west/Christianity/Judaism
hate it all.
until the west fights back, the future is here
the more the west imports moslems the more terror there is.
they hate the west/Christianity/Judaism
hate it all.
until the west fights back, the future is here
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 04:04 PM (VBsKP)
595
Of all the signs I saw during the two or three minutes of televised protests I watched-- before I wanted to vomit--the worst was one that said "WE ARE ALL MUSLIMS NOW!"
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Uh, no, we're not.
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Uh, no, we're not.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 04:05 PM (CRotO)
596
WH SOURCE: The WH is preparing for an earlier announcement of @realDonaldTrump's pick for Supreme Court - likely Tues, possibly tomorrow
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:06 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:06 PM (y3aQB)
598
One of the local FNM was pushing the protests and had some dude with family in Iran whining about he is scared to visit now lest he not get back in to U.S. and "I'm ashamed of my country" suck it up buttercup, I was ashamed of my country plenty of times over the past 8 years.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 29, 2017 04:07 PM (YC9GB)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:07 PM (y3aQB)
600
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity!
Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 04:07 PM (rMwfh)
601
WH SOURCE: The WH is preparing for an earlier announcement of @realDonaldTrump's pick for Supreme Court - likely Tues, possibly tomorrow
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:06 PM (y3aQB)
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He does so love to give them new squirrels to chase.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:06 PM (y3aQB)
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He does so love to give them new squirrels to chase.
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 04:08 PM (nkgRA)
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 04:09 PM (CRotO)
603
yeah, Luther and all the Christian reformation guys, reformed to the teachings of the Bible. There is a day when Christ returns "in power", judgment, white horses, etc. ("Day of the Lord" is then, "Man's Day" is now, free will choice to choose Christianity)
But till then Jesus distinctly stated "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's". JC really did "come in peace", and choosing Christianity is free choice. He overturned the money changer tables but that was at the temple. He did not overthrow nations, though the devil offered him such power.
But to "reform" to the fundamentals of "the book" in Islam is to go to the conversion by the sword, abuse of the infidels, child brides and the whole bit. They accept no law above Sharia. To "reform" to the Western culture would mean defying their own writings. Their kingdom is on earth, over the nations.
Some have tried to claim otherwise, but they have a lot of history to ignore. Even Islamic nations we get along with are hardly compatible with Western thoughts on equal rights and liberty.
But till then Jesus distinctly stated "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's". JC really did "come in peace", and choosing Christianity is free choice. He overturned the money changer tables but that was at the temple. He did not overthrow nations, though the devil offered him such power.
But to "reform" to the fundamentals of "the book" in Islam is to go to the conversion by the sword, abuse of the infidels, child brides and the whole bit. They accept no law above Sharia. To "reform" to the Western culture would mean defying their own writings. Their kingdom is on earth, over the nations.
Some have tried to claim otherwise, but they have a lot of history to ignore. Even Islamic nations we get along with are hardly compatible with Western thoughts on equal rights and liberty.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (uFxPi)
604
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 04:08 PM (nkgRA)
It's like OH you were pissed at the EO Friday ! here suck on this Buttercups
It's like OH you were pissed at the EO Friday ! here suck on this Buttercups
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (y3aQB)
605
Yes!!! oh Yes... oh oh YES
Posted by: Meg Ryan as Sally at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (DpOmP)
606
591 If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Trump is proving the Left is a paper tiger. All they can do is whine. Don't give in, and they can't do anything.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Trump is proving the Left is a paper tiger. All they can do is whine. Don't give in, and they can't do anything.
Posted by: Iblis at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (9221z)
607
& anybody realize it took a whole day for Soros Progtards to be told to be Offended ?
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:11 PM (y3aQB)
608
Trump has to worry about the GOPe... not the Left
Posted by: Ronaldo Magnus at January 29, 2017 04:11 PM (DpOmP)
609
Takes a while to program that shit in.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 04:11 PM (CRotO)
610
It's like OH you were pissed at the EO Friday ! here suck on this Buttercups
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (y3aQB)
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Yep. Loving this!
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:10 PM (y3aQB)
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Yep. Loving this!
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 04:11 PM (nkgRA)
611
607
anybody realize it took a whole day for Soros Progtards to be told to be Offended ?
Posted by: EVLINC!
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This.
George Soros is committing acts of war against our country.
Time for RICO.
anybody realize it took a whole day for Soros Progtards to be told to be Offended ?
Posted by: EVLINC!
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This.
George Soros is committing acts of war against our country.
Time for RICO.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 29, 2017 04:12 PM (Gv7El)
612
600 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 04:07 PM (rMwfh)
I'm not on Twitter. Is that for real?
Somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the FAKE NEWS and failing @nytimes and either run it correctly or let it fold with dignity!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 04:07 PM (rMwfh)
I'm not on Twitter. Is that for real?
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 04:13 PM (sdi6R)
613
Government rules catch people in the corners. Lefties screamed about green card holders. DHS clarifies no not green card holders.
This was great news, by the way. That was the only thing that looked like a political loser. If he needs to (unclear) Trump can come out and not give an inch, and defend everything in the EO, and the reasonable middle will have no issue with it.
This was great news, by the way. That was the only thing that looked like a political loser. If he needs to (unclear) Trump can come out and not give an inch, and defend everything in the EO, and the reasonable middle will have no issue with it.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 04:14 PM (10LGw)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:14 PM (y3aQB)
615
I'm not on Twitter. Is that for real?
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 04:13 PM (sdi6R)
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Yes, yes it is.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 04:13 PM (sdi6R)
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Yes, yes it is.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 04:16 PM (nkgRA)
Posted by: Hikaru at January 29, 2017 04:17 PM (eriW1)
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 04:17 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2017 04:17 PM (nQgx9)
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 04:18 PM (CRotO)
620
526
"Sadly I don't think Islam can have a Reformation."
"The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won."
Correct, see "The Closing of the Muslim Mind" by Robert R. Reilly
"Sadly I don't think Islam can have a Reformation."
"The reformation has occurred.
This is it.
The head choppers won."
Correct, see "The Closing of the Muslim Mind" by Robert R. Reilly
Posted by: geoffb5 at January 29, 2017 04:20 PM (d3wbb)
621
and Facebook is allegedly working with Media Matters to determine what "news" to censor. MM is one of many Soros funded propaganda outlets.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 29, 2017 04:20 PM (uFxPi)
622
"A tree is known by its fruit. For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. For every tree is known by its own fruit." All belief systems should be evaluated at face value--Christian, Judaism, Islam, Atheism, Conservatism, Marxism, etc. What do they advocate? What do their belief systems create? Peace and harmony or strife and discord? Jews make up less than 1% of the world's population, but make up 22% of Nobel Prize Winners, as well as 38% of US National Medal of Science medals, and are estimated to have saved the lives of 2.8 billion people via lifesaving medical and scientific advances. But what of Islam and its more than one billion adherents? As of 2015, only 12 have received Nobel prizes. Of the 25 wars going on around the world, 21 involve Muslim countries, or 80% of the armed conflicts. Any Muslim who advocates for Sharia should not be allowed in the US. Any Muslim who will not renounce key elements of the Quran and Hadith (death for apostasy, child marriage, etc.), should not be allowed in the US. This should be obvious.
Posted by: IanDeal at January 29, 2017 04:23 PM (teGBX)
623
Posted by: geoffb5 at January 29, 2017 04:20 PM (d3wbb)
Islam is a Political Ideology masquerading as a Religion
Islam is a Political Ideology masquerading as a Religion
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:24 PM (y3aQB)
624
In recognition of our current state of relations with our heathen Muslim friends, I hereby move that all future food threads start with a pork recipe...
Posted by: Chef Tell at January 29, 2017 04:24 PM (DpOmP)
Posted by: The_Invisible_Hand at January 29, 2017 04:25 PM (jsvaD)
626
At Barnes and noble with the kid, and it's reminding me that there's going to be some kick ass kids books on our 45th president
Gotta write one. Including pussycat hats and crybullies
Posted by: Bigbys other phone
And Hillary as an evil dragon. And Trump as St. George.
Gotta write one. Including pussycat hats and crybullies
Posted by: Bigbys other phone
And Hillary as an evil dragon. And Trump as St. George.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 04:31 PM (rH4JY)
627
If Trump backs down one micron on this, he's finished.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Yup....President Backbone Trump!
Posted by: rhomboid at January 29, 2017 03:54 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think he's the type to back down. The left has run into the proverbial immovable object.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 29, 2017 04:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Yup....President Backbone Trump!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2017 04:41 PM (5VlCp)
628
Watching Snowden.
Kinda boring, frankly.
Kinda boring, frankly.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 04:41 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:42 PM (y3aQB)
630
Correct, see "The Closing of the Muslim Mind" by Robert R. Reilly
Posted by: geoffb5
I think religions have a "gravitational pull" that asserts itself over time, despite occasional hiccups in other directions.
So for instance, we had the aberration of slavery in the 19th century, but it is not really compatible with Christianity (ex. Philemon, 1 Ti 1:10), and because of that, it troubled enough consciences so that it was eventually done away with.
Likewise in the 20th century, various ME countries became "secularized" for a time, but the true nature of Islam asserted its pull over people's minds, and dragged them back to what we see now. Those who are not actual terrorists probably feel too guilty before the "pious" terrorists to assert themselves and put an end to them themselves.
Posted by: geoffb5
I think religions have a "gravitational pull" that asserts itself over time, despite occasional hiccups in other directions.
So for instance, we had the aberration of slavery in the 19th century, but it is not really compatible with Christianity (ex. Philemon, 1 Ti 1:10), and because of that, it troubled enough consciences so that it was eventually done away with.
Likewise in the 20th century, various ME countries became "secularized" for a time, but the true nature of Islam asserted its pull over people's minds, and dragged them back to what we see now. Those who are not actual terrorists probably feel too guilty before the "pious" terrorists to assert themselves and put an end to them themselves.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 04:45 PM (rH4JY)
631
Can someone explain the fuss about Bannon being on NSC and Chair of Joint Chiefs being out? My Facebook page is showing a lot of hyperventilating about this shit.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 04:45 PM (yTnCT)
632
Just back from being out and about. CNN informs me that there are massive protests against keeping terrorists out. I imagine it's discriminatory to keep an eye on your borders.
Posted by: t-bird at January 29, 2017 04:47 PM (ysprU)
633
Trump went after McLame & Ms. Grahamnesty on Twitter ! hahahaha
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 04:52 PM (y3aQB)
634
CNN informs me that there are massive protests against keeping terrorists out.
Hitler wanted to keep terrorists out, too.
Hitler wanted to keep terrorists out, too.
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 04:55 PM (sdi6R)
635
Ugh, Snowden the movie is making me relive election day 2008
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 04:58 PM (Om16U)
636
Love the side bar item but one criticism: Twitter is NOT news.
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If you bother to click the links of the media tweets, you'll get the actual articles. And, in absence of an article, yes, a tweet from CNN, or FNC, or NYT is news.
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If you bother to click the links of the media tweets, you'll get the actual articles. And, in absence of an article, yes, a tweet from CNN, or FNC, or NYT is news.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 04:59 PM (SEXy3)
637
People on Facebook are screaming that this move is the first step toward dictatorship. Yeh, no. And why the fuck do they think bannon is a Lenin loving white supremist? I really don't understand any of this.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 05:01 PM (yTnCT)
638
634
CNN informs me that there are massive protests against keeping terrorists out
They don't look massive from the footage,its almost all in tight shots which means maybe not so big.
634
CNN informs me that there are massive protests against keeping terrorists out
They don't look massive from the footage,its almost all in tight shots which means maybe not so big.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 05:01 PM (PtOP4)
639
>>>CNN informs me that there are massive protests against keeping terrorists out.
F*ck CNN. Who knows what the truth is just based on what they say? No doubt there are a few vocal dipshits on college campuses who are protesting, but "massive"? Doubt it.
F*ck CNN. Who knows what the truth is just based on what they say? No doubt there are a few vocal dipshits on college campuses who are protesting, but "massive"? Doubt it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:02 PM (rH4JY)
640
So, I have been looking at apartment lately. One I went to was a new complex. They had keyless entry on the doors. It struck me while standing there with the guy showing me this technology: what happens when the power goes out? There appeared to be no key entry at all, so in an emergency like a power outage, do your doors automatically unlock?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:02 PM (92kX2)
641
Watching Snowden.
Kinda boring, frankly.
Posted by: @votermom
But it's better than the movie about how Barack and Michelle met, surely.
Kinda boring, frankly.
Posted by: @votermom
But it's better than the movie about how Barack and Michelle met, surely.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (rH4JY)
642
CBS or someone said it's chaos because 12 people were detained. 12 = chaos. No. The chaos was from a hundred idiot protesters.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (yTnCT)
643
But it's better than the movie about how Barack and Michelle met, surely.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (rH4JY)
From what I understand watching the new mural's paint dry while standing in the line at the DMV is more exciting than Southside with You.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (rH4JY)
From what I understand watching the new mural's paint dry while standing in the line at the DMV is more exciting than Southside with You.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:05 PM (92kX2)
644
But it's better than the movie about how Barack and Michelle met, surely.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (rH4JY)
That one might be good for weightloss, bulimia style.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (rH4JY)
That one might be good for weightloss, bulimia style.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 29, 2017 05:06 PM (Om16U)
645
642 CBS or someone said it's chaos because 12 people were detained. 12 = chaos. No. The chaos was from a hundred idiot protesters.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (yTnCT)
Everything is the Berlin wall falling right now. Every little thing. And they did not even want the wall to fall.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 05:04 PM (yTnCT)
Everything is the Berlin wall falling right now. Every little thing. And they did not even want the wall to fall.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:06 PM (92kX2)
646
The left over reacts to everything, don't they...
Posted by: Chicken Little at January 29, 2017 05:09 PM (DpOmP)
647
646 The left over reacts to everything, don't they...
Posted by: Chicken Little at January 29, 2017 05:09 PM (DpOmP)
No kidding.
Posted by: Chicken Little at January 29, 2017 05:09 PM (DpOmP)
No kidding.
Posted by: Boy who cried 'Wolf!' at January 29, 2017 05:10 PM (92kX2)
648
seandav
If you thought it were horrifically bad policy, you would've said something when Obama did it. You didn't. QED.
If you thought it were horrifically bad policy, you would've said something when Obama did it. You didn't. QED.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:10 PM (y3aQB)
649
100,000 people against abortion = large gathering.
1,000 people against immigration ban = massive protest
100,000 people against abortion = large gathering.
1,000 people against immigration ban = massive protest
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 29, 2017 05:12 PM (PtOP4)
650
seanmdav
.@fmanjoo @blakehounshell Obama's 2011 Iraq refugee ban was broader than Trump's and lasted longer.
.@fmanjoo @blakehounshell Obama's 2011 Iraq refugee ban was broader than Trump's and lasted longer.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:13 PM (y3aQB)
651
RaheemKassam
29/01/17 00:35
As a visitor to the US, I don't have a RIGHT to be here. I'm a guest. Being detained a few hours is a minor issue for a greater good.
RaheemKassam
29/01/17 00:35
As a visitor to the US, I don't have a RIGHT to be here. I'm a guest. Being detained a few hours is a minor issue for a greater good.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:17 PM (y3aQB)
652
@fmanjoo @blakehounshell Obama's 2011 Iraq refugee ban was broader than Trump's and lasted longer.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:13 PM (y3aQB)
What is fascinating about this is that the left, instead of heeding the advice offered by even some of those on the left to moderate their outrage so there is not outrage overload, have instead decided to keep doubling down expecting different results. As long as Trump stays the course, what do they do from there. Pretty much all that is left is armed insurrection.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:13 PM (y3aQB)
What is fascinating about this is that the left, instead of heeding the advice offered by even some of those on the left to moderate their outrage so there is not outrage overload, have instead decided to keep doubling down expecting different results. As long as Trump stays the course, what do they do from there. Pretty much all that is left is armed insurrection.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:17 PM (92kX2)
653
RaheemKassam
29/01/17 00:35
As a visitor to the US, I don't have a RIGHT to be here. I'm a guest. Being detained a few hours is a minor issue for a greater good.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:17 PM (y3aQB)
This guy gets it. Lets plaster his tweet all over every news outlet.
29/01/17 00:35
As a visitor to the US, I don't have a RIGHT to be here. I'm a guest. Being detained a few hours is a minor issue for a greater good.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:17 PM (y3aQB)
This guy gets it. Lets plaster his tweet all over every news outlet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:18 PM (92kX2)
654
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:17 PM (92kX2)
Not a Fan of his But as Michael Savage once said Liberlaism is a Mental Disorder
Not a Fan of his But as Michael Savage once said Liberlaism is a Mental Disorder
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:23 PM (y3aQB)
655
What is fascinating about this is that the left, instead of heeding the advice offered by even some of those on the left to moderate their outrage so there is not outrage overload, have instead decided to keep doubling down expecting different results.
Not only fascinating. It also makes me giggle.
Not only fascinating. It also makes me giggle.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:25 PM (rH4JY)
656
Not only fascinating. It also makes me giggle.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:25 PM (rH4JY)
It's funcinating!
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:25 PM (rH4JY)
It's funcinating!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:26 PM (92kX2)
657
g'afternoon, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 29, 2017 05:27 PM (jolGM)
658
Just returned from a trip and passed through Atlanta airport as dozens, possibly hundreds of protesters were arriving with their signs, scruffy beards. and twat hats. They stood out from the passengers and airport staff like sore thumbs, not only in dress but also in their rude, disorderly conduct. The commentary I heard from other travelers was mostly contemptuous. Who wants to put up with this after all the other headaches of airline travel or work? This is going to backfire on the libs, although from the early MSM reports I can see they are going with the narrative that this is a brave stand against tyranny.
Posted by: Ripley at January 29, 2017 05:27 PM (NbRJx)
659
658 Just returned from a trip and passed through Atlanta airport as dozens, possibly hundreds of protesters were arriving with their signs, scruffy beards. and twat hats. They stood out from the passengers and airport staff like sore thumbs, not only in dress but also in their rude, disorderly conduct. The commentary I heard from other travelers was mostly contemptuous. Who wants to put up with this after all the other headaches of airline travel or work? This is going to backfire on the libs, although from the early MSM reports I can see they are going with the narrative that this is a brave stand against tyranny.
Posted by: Ripley at January 29, 2017 05:27 PM (NbRJx)
See. All we need to do is stand at the security checkpoint and hand out billy clubs, and the mess would resolve itself.
Posted by: Ripley at January 29, 2017 05:27 PM (NbRJx)
See. All we need to do is stand at the security checkpoint and hand out billy clubs, and the mess would resolve itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2017 05:28 PM (92kX2)
660
McCain is enjoying being the medias favorite Republican again,I see.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 05:38 PM (r/0kC)
661
This is awesome,Trump makes lefties lose their minds on a daily basis.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 05:39 PM (r/0kC)
662
McCain is enjoying being the medias favorite Republican again,I see.
Posted by: steevy
Is he joining up with Orrin Hatch in his attack? McCain isn't a Mormon.
Posted by: steevy
Is he joining up with Orrin Hatch in his attack? McCain isn't a Mormon.
Posted by: Don Lemon at January 29, 2017 05:40 PM (rH4JY)
663
Off lemon meringue poofta sock.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:41 PM (rH4JY)
664
This is awesome,Trump makes lefties lose their minds on a daily basis.
Posted by: steevy
Including weekends. Guy is a dynamo.
Posted by: steevy
Including weekends. Guy is a dynamo.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:43 PM (rH4JY)
665
https://tinyurl.com/jgx4hxv
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#BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
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#BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:51 PM (y3aQB)
666
lol
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 05:54 PM (CRotO)
667
#BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
Posted by: EVLINC!
So you mean he's about to yank the rug out from the MSM shrieking "OMG!!! WHERE WILL THE REFUGEES GO??? TRUMP IS A NAZI"
I feel like I've died and gone to heaven. This can't be happening.
Posted by: EVLINC!
So you mean he's about to yank the rug out from the MSM shrieking "OMG!!! WHERE WILL THE REFUGEES GO??? TRUMP IS A NAZI"
I feel like I've died and gone to heaven. This can't be happening.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 05:56 PM (rH4JY)
668
https://tinyurl.com/hry8seo
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Prominent ISIS executioner Abu Sayyaf killed by gunmen in Nineveh
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Prominent ISIS executioner Abu Sayyaf killed by gunmen in Nineveh
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:57 PM (y3aQB)
669
A lefty friend has been tweeting nonstop about the travel bans. Apparently Justin Trudeau has tweeted he will take in all the refugees we don't. Troll.
I have another friend who has dual Iranian US citizenship. She is worried if she goes to visit her family there in a few months she won't get back in to US. Don't know what to tell her but I hope it works out for her to return just fine.
I have another friend who has dual Iranian US citizenship. She is worried if she goes to visit her family there in a few months she won't get back in to US. Don't know what to tell her but I hope it works out for her to return just fine.
Posted by: LizLem at January 29, 2017 05:57 PM (JgGWZ)
670
>>> 667 #BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
I don't know if I've seen eleven dimensional chess played in real time before. Rather impressive!
I don't know if I've seen eleven dimensional chess played in real time before. Rather impressive!
Posted by: LizLem at January 29, 2017 05:59 PM (JgGWZ)
671
Canadia had a good run.Their new muslim overlords might let them keep poutine.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (r/0kC)
672
Jefferson Airplane covered a song Wooden Ships.
"Wooden ships on the water very free.
Easy, you know the way it's supposed to be"
Trump does all these common sense things, so quickly, that I've always thought "why don't the assholes in Washington do this? It seems so easy". And apparently it was.
"Wooden ships on the water very free.
Easy, you know the way it's supposed to be"
Trump does all these common sense things, so quickly, that I've always thought "why don't the assholes in Washington do this? It seems so easy". And apparently it was.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (rH4JY)
673
"I have another friend who has dual Iranian US citizenship."
As a citizen, she'll have no problem getting into the US. She should worry about getting out of Iran. She's a spy, don't you know.
As a citizen, she'll have no problem getting into the US. She should worry about getting out of Iran. She's a spy, don't you know.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 06:02 PM (bQxkN)
674
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
The joint statement of former presidential candidates John McCain & Lindsey Graham is wrong - they are sadly weak on immigration. The two...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
...Senators should focus their energies on ISIS, illegal immigration and border security instead of always looking to start World War III.
The joint statement of former presidential candidates John McCain & Lindsey Graham is wrong - they are sadly weak on immigration. The two...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
...Senators should focus their energies on ISIS, illegal immigration and border security instead of always looking to start World War III.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 06:03 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Jay Guevara, still deplorable at January 29, 2017 06:04 PM (V/hki)
676
674 Zing!
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 06:04 PM (r/0kC)
677
The more unhinged the opposition gets,the less most of the public will pay attention to them.The most harmful opposition will come from "concerned" Republicans.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 06:05 PM (r/0kC)
678
Trump does all these common sense things, so quickly, that I've always thought "why don't the assholes in Washington do this? It seems so easy". And apparently it was.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (rH4JY)
He made a list of all the stupidity, and formed a plan to deal with each one in short order. Basically the moron equivalent of looking at a list and saying fuck this...and fuck this...oh totally fuck this..fuck this too, etc etc.
I don't think he'll make America great again though, he's going right past that and heading towards omnipotent.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (rH4JY)
He made a list of all the stupidity, and formed a plan to deal with each one in short order. Basically the moron equivalent of looking at a list and saying fuck this...and fuck this...oh totally fuck this..fuck this too, etc etc.
I don't think he'll make America great again though, he's going right past that and heading towards omnipotent.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2017 06:05 PM (aMlLZ)
679
A lefty friend has been tweeting nonstop about the travel bans. Apparently Justin Trudeau has tweeted he will take in all the refugees we don't. Troll.
They'll probably be in Canadia for a grand total of about ten minutes before crossing into the US.
They'll probably be in Canadia for a grand total of about ten minutes before crossing into the US.
Posted by: Jay Guevara, still deplorable at January 29, 2017 06:06 PM (V/hki)
680
Trump does all these common sense things, so quickly, that I've always thought "why don't the assholes in Washington do this? It seems so easy". And apparently it was.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (rH4JY)
======
He is the first President in a long time who was not helped into office. He owes no favors so he can do the common sense stuff others couldn't.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:00 PM (rH4JY)
======
He is the first President in a long time who was not helped into office. He owes no favors so he can do the common sense stuff others couldn't.
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 06:06 PM (nkgRA)
681
Common sense! Amazing ain't it.
Keep saying Trump is Rudy Giuliani circa 1993 NYC, writ Huge on a national scale.
Similar relationship to the press.
Keep saying Trump is Rudy Giuliani circa 1993 NYC, writ Huge on a national scale.
Similar relationship to the press.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 06:10 PM (bQxkN)
682
So you mean he's about to yank the rug out from the MSM shrieking "OMG!!! WHERE WILL THE REFUGEES GO??? TRUMP IS A NAZI"
I feel like I've died and gone to heaven. This can't be happening.
***
Greg Gutfeld, who has been far from a Trump supporter, opened his show with this last night. I loved it.
http://bit.ly/2jH4kFF
I feel like I've died and gone to heaven. This can't be happening.
***
Greg Gutfeld, who has been far from a Trump supporter, opened his show with this last night. I loved it.
http://bit.ly/2jH4kFF
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 06:10 PM (SEXy3)
683
MSNBC meme: "all the world disapproves, and will hate us."
Newsflash: they already hate us, so eff 'em.
"Our allies are upset."
Newsflash: we don't have any allies. We have a whole bunch of folks who are always there when they need us, but who otherwise crap on us 24/7.
"Building the wall etc. will hurt our economy."
Newsflash: It'll destroy Mexico's economy if they try to play hardball.
Newsflash: they already hate us, so eff 'em.
"Our allies are upset."
Newsflash: we don't have any allies. We have a whole bunch of folks who are always there when they need us, but who otherwise crap on us 24/7.
"Building the wall etc. will hurt our economy."
Newsflash: It'll destroy Mexico's economy if they try to play hardball.
Posted by: Jay Guevara, still deplorable at January 29, 2017 06:11 PM (V/hki)
684
So you mean he's about to yank the rug out from the MSM shrieking "OMG!!! WHERE WILL THE REFUGEES GO???
Answer: somewhere else.
Answer: somewhere else.
Posted by: Jay Guevara, still deplorable at January 29, 2017 06:11 PM (V/hki)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 06:13 PM (rMwfh)
686
673: I have an internet friend whose DH is Persian and has family in Iran. Because their sons are now military age they do not go on any trips to Iran because they might be drafted and I believe she had concerns when her husband was younger.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 29, 2017 06:13 PM (Jen0I)
687
"Newsflash: It'll destroy Mexico's economy if they try to play hardball."
Yep. Even a small ratchet will do.
Trump wants to beat Mexico like a pinata as an example to other countries especially China.
This puts Mex Pres Nieto in a tough position because he loses his mojo if he pays for the Wall. ?Sucks to be the bitch in a prison block, no?
Yep. Even a small ratchet will do.
Trump wants to beat Mexico like a pinata as an example to other countries especially China.
This puts Mex Pres Nieto in a tough position because he loses his mojo if he pays for the Wall. ?Sucks to be the bitch in a prison block, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 06:17 PM (bQxkN)
688
https://tinyurl.com/z2zyouq
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Priebus on Immigration Ban. Perhaps We Need to Take it Further
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Priebus on Immigration Ban. Perhaps We Need to Take it Further
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 06:18 PM (y3aQB)
689
NDH,
"Heads so far up their asses, they can tongue their own tonsils."
Can't blame Greg for trying to get that image out of his head.
"Heads so far up their asses, they can tongue their own tonsils."
Can't blame Greg for trying to get that image out of his head.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 06:20 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Kreplach at January 29, 2017 06:21 PM (+lv+r)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 06:27 PM (SEXy3)
692
"Heads so far up their asses, they can tongue their own tonsils."
Can't blame Greg for trying to get that image out of his head.
***
I liked:
"He's like a manic Swiss Army knife. The media has only one tool, and he has like seventy"
Can't blame Greg for trying to get that image out of his head.
***
I liked:
"He's like a manic Swiss Army knife. The media has only one tool, and he has like seventy"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 29, 2017 06:27 PM (SEXy3)
693
SCOTUS pick scheduled for Thursday.
I'm not the only one who thinks it may come early, just to fuck with media.
Journolist Katy Kay said during the race that Trump would ruin her day with a single tweet. Heh.
I'm not the only one who thinks it may come early, just to fuck with media.
Journolist Katy Kay said during the race that Trump would ruin her day with a single tweet. Heh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2017 06:31 PM (bQxkN)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 06:32 PM (y3aQB)
695
Greg Gutfeld, who has been far from a Trump supporter, opened his show with this last night. I loved it.
http://bit.ly/2jH4kFF
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
Heh. 8 years of worshipping Obama has rotted their mental abilities as journalists - that would explain a lot. Nice to see Gutfeld appreciates what is going on. I wasn't sure what to expect either, but it looks like our gamble turned out well (cross fingers).
http://bit.ly/2jH4kFF
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
Heh. 8 years of worshipping Obama has rotted their mental abilities as journalists - that would explain a lot. Nice to see Gutfeld appreciates what is going on. I wasn't sure what to expect either, but it looks like our gamble turned out well (cross fingers).
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 06:34 PM (rH4JY)
696
At this pace,the entire left will be committed to insane asylums before Trump completes his first 100 days.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 06:37 PM (r/0kC)
697
I've pulled my hat down, got my spurs at the shoulders. Let 'er buck.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 29, 2017 06:39 PM (Dz4dm)
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 06:40 PM (CRotO)
699
Notice that 'charity to other muslims' doesn't involve taking in refugees.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 06:43 PM (oVJmc)
700
*waves to Ben Had*
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 06:43 PM (CRotO)
701
"Are Western Pluralistic Societies Incompatible With Islam?"
"Yes"
Threadwinner!
So this is pretty much Everyone Gets A Trophy Day.
"Yes"
Threadwinner!
So this is pretty much Everyone Gets A Trophy Day.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2017 06:44 PM (1CroS)
702
I feel like we need to be ready, like bad shit is going to happen. I think they got an explicit warning, and thats why it was so fast.
Super Bowl is next week. Houston has had the highest number of refugees located in the nation, 10 years running
I feel like we need to be ready, like bad shit is going to happen. I think they got an explicit warning, and thats why it was so fast.
Super Bowl is next week. Houston has had the highest number of refugees located in the nation, 10 years running
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:48 PM (inhVF)
703
Well,if anything happens it will be because of the"tone" of the Trump administration making muzzies upset and go jihadi.
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2017 06:51 PM (r/0kC)
704
"Well,if anything happens it will be because of the"tone" of the Trump administration making muzzies upset and go jihadi."
This is pretty much what Juan McCain has said.
Really.
This is pretty much what Juan McCain has said.
Really.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 29, 2017 06:53 PM (97XyN)
705
I agree with Juan McCain Johnthon!
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at January 29, 2017 06:54 PM (97XyN)
706
I would prefer to exclude any foreign nationals who are likely to go all murdery over tone.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 06:54 PM (rMwfh)
707
Those that carry, should. Have a plan to get away, esp if you have to be in a crowd. Dont wear stupid shoes
Those that carry, should. Have a plan to get away, esp if you have to be in a crowd. Dont wear stupid shoes
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
708
Have a meet up plan if you get separated. Keep your phone charged, your ringer off
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:56 PM (inhVF)
709
Waving back at ya good lady.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 29, 2017 06:57 PM (Dz4dm)
710
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:56 PM (inhVF)
well I am in SW Pa. in a town of MAYBE 2,500 ! I don't have many worries unlike people here in Big Cities & I pray for them
well I am in SW Pa. in a town of MAYBE 2,500 ! I don't have many worries unlike people here in Big Cities & I pray for them
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 06:58 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 06:59 PM (j8aRL)
712
Alabama Athletics @UA_Athletics 2m2 minutes ago
Roll Tide Roll! @BamaGymnastics storms back and finishes the Floor with 9.9 (Desch), 9.95 (Winston), and a 9.975 from Sims to get the win!
Roll Tide Roll! @BamaGymnastics storms back and finishes the Floor with 9.9 (Desch), 9.95 (Winston), and a 9.975 from Sims to get the win!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 29, 2017 06:59 PM (rMwfh)
713
Always know your exits when ever you go somewhere. Place yourself near it if you can. Find another exit if that one is blocked
Try and maintain situational awareness and trust your instincts
Fuck the rules
Always know your exits when ever you go somewhere. Place yourself near it if you can. Find another exit if that one is blocked
Try and maintain situational awareness and trust your instincts
Fuck the rules
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 07:02 PM (inhVF)
714
Those that carry, should. Have a plan to get away, esp if you have to be in a crowd. Dont wear stupid shoes
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
I've been putting off getting my license for months. Regretting it now. Time to fix that.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
I've been putting off getting my license for months. Regretting it now. Time to fix that.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 29, 2017 07:02 PM (iTW5b)
715
McCain is psychotic.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:03 PM (j8aRL)
716
ThunderB- I think we should all be ready to have Posse Comintous.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 29, 2017 07:04 PM (Dz4dm)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 07:04 PM (inhVF)
718
So what did I miss?
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 07:06 PM (7qAYi)
719
Well POTUS upended the card table, and Reince doubled down
Well POTUS upended the card table, and Reince doubled down
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 07:08 PM (inhVF)
720
Over a million people in Harris county were born outside the US, a quarter of the population. In the last 10 years over 80k refugees settled in Texas, most in Houston. Houston has been the refugee capital of the US for 10 years
Its math
Over a million people in Harris county were born outside the US, a quarter of the population. In the last 10 years over 80k refugees settled in Texas, most in Houston. Houston has been the refugee capital of the US for 10 years
Its math
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 07:11 PM (inhVF)
721
The GOPe came expecting to play poker, and Trump brought a tarot deck.
He just drew the King of Schlongs
He just drew the King of Schlongs
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 07:11 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Flyboy at January 29, 2017 07:15 PM (nkgRA)
723
In some ways, Trump is a lightening rod. He does what he said he would do, and leaves the repubs in the congress to get on with it while the press is busy yelping about what Trump is doing. Has any news media been talking about congress at all?
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 07:18 PM (yTnCT)
724
Operation GLADIO in the USA in the very near future?
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:19 PM (j8aRL)
725
I think Trump let the whole world there is a new sheriff in town, and hes kicking ass and taking names
No more push over
No more push over
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 07:19 PM (inhVF)
726
In Washington did Donald Trump
Some executive orders decree
By which he would the Muslims ban
To no more harm either goat nor man
Despite Chuck Schumer's pleas.
And all who heard shall see him there
The media cries, "Beware! Beware!
His Russian ties! His orange hair!
Weave a pussyhat round him thrice
And march against his pussy clutch
We cannot attack him overmuch
To enable the Marxist Paradise!"
Some executive orders decree
By which he would the Muslims ban
To no more harm either goat nor man
Despite Chuck Schumer's pleas.
And all who heard shall see him there
The media cries, "Beware! Beware!
His Russian ties! His orange hair!
Weave a pussyhat round him thrice
And march against his pussy clutch
We cannot attack him overmuch
To enable the Marxist Paradise!"
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 07:20 PM (rH4JY)
727
That's beautiful man.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 07:21 PM (yTnCT)
728
Ok. I'm just doing that to goad Muldoon into doing a better job.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 07:22 PM (rH4JY)
729
Yeah, I took that as a veiled threat from psycho John InSane.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:23 PM (j8aRL)
730
724. Doubt it. Heh....you know why there aren't any color revolutions in America?
It's because we have no American embassies here.
It's because we have no American embassies here.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 29, 2017 07:24 PM (zgQWN)
731
726 - Nicely done.
Posted by: josephistan at January 29, 2017 07:24 PM (7qAYi)
732
What we need here is a new thread. Fresh and clean, so I can refresh it on my tablet without it taking 5 minutes.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at January 29, 2017 07:26 PM (yTnCT)
733
729. Predicting an Islamic terror attack is like predicting a sunrise. It will happen - only have to wait a while.
And McCain is a nasty piece of work - his support of the al-nusrah and al qaeda types in syria removes all doubt, and erases whatever honor he once had.
And McCain is a nasty piece of work - his support of the al-nusrah and al qaeda types in syria removes all doubt, and erases whatever honor he once had.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 29, 2017 07:26 PM (zgQWN)
734
730 724. Doubt it. Heh....you know why there aren't any color revolutions in America?
It's because we have no American embassies here.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 29, 2017 07:24 PM (zgQWN
We do have a shit ton of Mosques.
And some high ranking Mexican Pol on CNN today made a actual threat about the Cartels flooding this country full of drugs and firepower from the Cartels to string arm us.
It's because we have no American embassies here.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 29, 2017 07:24 PM (zgQWN
We do have a shit ton of Mosques.
And some high ranking Mexican Pol on CNN today made a actual threat about the Cartels flooding this country full of drugs and firepower from the Cartels to string arm us.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:29 PM (j8aRL)
735
Knead gnu three-d!
Knead gnu three-d!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at January 29, 2017 07:30 PM (GWDdA)
736
What is a crazy number is the fact that 200 Muslims from those 7 countries were in midflight when the EO went down. Over 2 dozen remained in custody after the judge ruled on that loophole.
200 is a fuckton. We have no idea who and how many are in our country.
200 is a fuckton. We have no idea who and how many are in our country.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:32 PM (j8aRL)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 07:36 PM (y3aQB)
738
I don't know if I've seen eleven dimensional chess played in real time before. Rather impressive!
The media has also been doing some impressive eleven-dimensional bedwetting.
I'm actually not even convinced that Trump is baiting them at this point... maybe he's just carrying out a reasonably well-planned policy, and the media are taking care of embarrassing themselves all on their own.
The media has also been doing some impressive eleven-dimensional bedwetting.
I'm actually not even convinced that Trump is baiting them at this point... maybe he's just carrying out a reasonably well-planned policy, and the media are taking care of embarrassing themselves all on their own.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 29, 2017 07:36 PM (4bKiB)
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 07:37 PM (VBsKP)
740
I read a few months ago, (Septemberish I believe), that reports out of Chiraq was that huge duffle bags full of heavy arms were being dropped off routinely in certain parts of the city in alleyways. The bkack neighborhoods would see this happen and watch the gangs go retrieve them. Regular ills knew not to touch them and stayed away.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 29, 2017 07:37 PM (j8aRL)
741
so the news showing bagheaded wimminz getting out of detention is not really helping their cause
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 07:42 PM (VBsKP)
742
Let's invade the top thread and start a pie fight.
Posted by: freaked at January 29, 2017 07:48 PM (BO/km)
743
BREAKING: Future Muzzie Terrorists No Longer Mentally Ill, Now Sane and Once Again Making Forceful, Yet Politically Astute Statements Regarding U.S. Action Domestically and Around the Globe
Posted by: Mega at January 29, 2017 07:49 PM (EdXI9)
Posted by: Mega at January 29, 2017 07:52 PM (EdXI9)
745
https://tinyurl.com/jyezgb8
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Most Americans support Trump's Refugee ban, The protests are only by the radical left who love terrorism.
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Most Americans support Trump's Refugee ban, The protests are only by the radical left who love terrorism.
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 07:53 PM (y3aQB)
746
so is islam going to be even madder at us now?
??
Posted by: Original Jake
Remember the scene in Life of Brian where Michael Palin was getting stoned to death?
He kept saying "Jehovah" and the high priest kept saying "Stop saying that! You're only making it worse for yourself!" "Worse??? How can it get any worse? Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!"
There have been numerous terrorist attacks against us during O'Fuckbrains 8 years. So even if we were cowards who preferred to live on our knees, as Charlie Hebdo put it, we'd have nothing to lose. Who cares how mad they get? They are already killing us and we need to fight back.
??
Posted by: Original Jake
Remember the scene in Life of Brian where Michael Palin was getting stoned to death?
He kept saying "Jehovah" and the high priest kept saying "Stop saying that! You're only making it worse for yourself!" "Worse??? How can it get any worse? Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!"
There have been numerous terrorist attacks against us during O'Fuckbrains 8 years. So even if we were cowards who preferred to live on our knees, as Charlie Hebdo put it, we'd have nothing to lose. Who cares how mad they get? They are already killing us and we need to fight back.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 07:57 PM (rH4JY)
747
'The school director said that it was good there was student opposition to the memorial event because it "is the basis of discussion."'
"But about Climate Denial, zere can be NO discussion!
Climate "Denier" was supposed to be a slur based on Holocaust Denier. I guess we're just Climate Discussers now.
"But about Climate Denial, zere can be NO discussion!
Climate "Denier" was supposed to be a slur based on Holocaust Denier. I guess we're just Climate Discussers now.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 29, 2017 08:04 PM (Ndje9)
748
Dont wear stupid shoes
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
---
Oh, please do wear stupid shoes.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
---
Oh, please do wear stupid shoes.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:05 PM (CRotO)
749
Oh, please do wear stupid shoes.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:05 PM (CRotO)
Shouldn't they be shot long before they get that close?
Just curious.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:05 PM (CRotO)
Shouldn't they be shot long before they get that close?
Just curious.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 29, 2017 08:07 PM (iTW5b)
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:08 PM (CRotO)
751
I wonder what Juan's response will be, now that Trump has accused him of wanting to start WWIII.
It should be entertaining.
It should be entertaining.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 29, 2017 08:14 PM (97XyN)
752
Dont wear stupid shoes
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
---
Oh, please do wear stupid shoes.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: SMFH
General Peggy Combs demanded that recruits wear high heels. But now that Obama is gone, I expect the number of people in our armed services who wear stupid shoes to decrease drastically.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2017 06:55 PM (inhVF)
---
Oh, please do wear stupid shoes.
Easier for me to trip your dumb asses.
Posted by: SMFH
General Peggy Combs demanded that recruits wear high heels. But now that Obama is gone, I expect the number of people in our armed services who wear stupid shoes to decrease drastically.
Posted by: Anjit Pai at January 29, 2017 08:15 PM (rH4JY)
753
FCC sock off.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 29, 2017 08:16 PM (rH4JY)
754
386 We have a fine tool necessary for all Americans facing today's conditions
Posted by: Oliver Winchester and Benjamin Henry at January 29, 2017 02:16 PM (DpOmP)
Agreed.
Posted by: Oliver Winchester and Benjamin Henry at January 29, 2017 02:16 PM (DpOmP)
Agreed.
Posted by: Gene Stoner at January 29, 2017 08:17 PM (gm0oZ)
755
Posted by: Anjit Pai at January 29, 2017 08:15 PM (rH4JY)
---
Good.
I was talking about lefties.
---
Good.
I was talking about lefties.
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:22 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 08:24 PM (oVJmc)
757
Millions dead after GOP repeals and replaces Obamacare with VA system
"During a special session called for by President Trump on the day of his presidential inauguration, House and Senate leaders repealed Obamacare and replaced it with a system run by the VA, sources say. Now just days after Trump's inauguration, the incredible efficiency of VA health care has claimed the lives of more than nine million people in hospitals across America."
http://tinyurl.com/hb7ba2t
"During a special session called for by President Trump on the day of his presidential inauguration, House and Senate leaders repealed Obamacare and replaced it with a system run by the VA, sources say. Now just days after Trump's inauguration, the incredible efficiency of VA health care has claimed the lives of more than nine million people in hospitals across America."
http://tinyurl.com/hb7ba2t
Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2017 08:29 PM (CRotO)
758
My wife told me she's seeing a lot of her friends on FB that are melting down over the refugee issue. I told her she should dump FB. She says she can't do that.
I told her she should ask the lefties if they actually have to have one of their family members killed by a Sudden Jihad Syndrome patient before they actually understand we're under attack. She should also tell them the Muzzie countries haven't taken ONE refugee. Then she should ask them why solving this problem should fall on the U.S., who is twenty trillion in debt, when the refugee coreligionists won't spend a damn dime. She tells me she can't say things like that because they won't listen.
Our conversation pretty much has to stop there. She's not going to tell the lefties to perform an act that is generally considered impossible for most people despite my urging. Pity, since most of them need to hear exactly that, followed by an immediate unfriending.
I dumped every lefty I know years ago and I call them on it whenever some lefty bastard spouts that crap in my presence. Not having lefties in ones life makes things a lot easier. Dealing with unrealistic people is a constant pain and I no longer have the patience for it.
I told her she should ask the lefties if they actually have to have one of their family members killed by a Sudden Jihad Syndrome patient before they actually understand we're under attack. She should also tell them the Muzzie countries haven't taken ONE refugee. Then she should ask them why solving this problem should fall on the U.S., who is twenty trillion in debt, when the refugee coreligionists won't spend a damn dime. She tells me she can't say things like that because they won't listen.
Our conversation pretty much has to stop there. She's not going to tell the lefties to perform an act that is generally considered impossible for most people despite my urging. Pity, since most of them need to hear exactly that, followed by an immediate unfriending.
I dumped every lefty I know years ago and I call them on it whenever some lefty bastard spouts that crap in my presence. Not having lefties in ones life makes things a lot easier. Dealing with unrealistic people is a constant pain and I no longer have the patience for it.
Posted by: mac at January 29, 2017 08:43 PM (eI49Y)
759
SMFH, how's your prostate doing?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2017 08:43 PM (6FqZa)
760
Rockin' it b*tches.
Posted by: Ed Henry Who's Hat Is Made From Human Assholes at January 29, 2017 08:44 PM (X+rUO)
761
"I am curious what discussion was had whose basis is the rejection of Holocaust education, and demonization of Israel...but that's just me."
The same one they had at the UN.
The same one they had at the UN.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 29, 2017 08:50 PM (Ndje9)
762
665
#BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:51 PM (y3aQB)
#MasterPersuader
#BREAKING Trump- Saudi King phone call readout says Trump requested support from the King to establish safe zones in Syria,Yemen.King agreed
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 05:51 PM (y3aQB)
#MasterPersuader
Posted by: rickl at January 29, 2017 08:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 08:56 PM (VBsKP)
764
https://tinyurl.com/h2capxl
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PRIEBUS: We Wont Apologize For Keeping America Safe! (Video)
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PRIEBUS: We Wont Apologize For Keeping America Safe! (Video)
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 09:18 PM (y3aQB)
765
Six hours is a long time to stare at that lame pie.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 29, 2017 09:21 PM (oVJmc)
766
https://tinyurl.com/h6ox6w2
------------------------------------
How Tulsi Gabbard became Assad mouthpiece in Washington
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How Tulsi Gabbard became Assad mouthpiece in Washington
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 29, 2017 09:24 PM (y3aQB)
767
9:36
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 09:30 PM (VBsKP)
Posted by: Original Jake at January 29, 2017 09:33 PM (VBsKP)
769
Regarding comments that more-or-less suggest that "all the Muslims have to do is change what their Holy Book says":
Islam CAN'T change.
see: https://tinyurl.com/Meme-of-Islam
Short Version:
Islam means "Submission", right? Allah's Perfect Plan for mankind is found in the Koran, which was revealed to Mohammed over a series of visits by Archangel Gabriel. The Koran is eternal, unchangeable, and inerrant. You, practicing Muslim, *MUST* submit to Allah and His Wisdom, and you *MAY NOT* question His methods or His purposes. "For Allah knoweth, and you do not". Muslims must submit to Allah's will as revealed in The Book WITHOUT JUDGING ALLAH'S PLAN, even if they are confused or even repelled by His commands. Human understanding is feeble; The Divine Will is inerrant. Period.
Change a word, a syllable, a vowel, an accent mark ... and the resulting book is no longer the Literal Word Of God. Change ~any~ thing, and you no longer have
Islam.
Which is why Islam is Islam and will always *BE* Islam. It CAN NOT change.
Islam CAN'T change.
see: https://tinyurl.com/Meme-of-Islam
Short Version:
Islam means "Submission", right? Allah's Perfect Plan for mankind is found in the Koran, which was revealed to Mohammed over a series of visits by Archangel Gabriel. The Koran is eternal, unchangeable, and inerrant. You, practicing Muslim, *MUST* submit to Allah and His Wisdom, and you *MAY NOT* question His methods or His purposes. "For Allah knoweth, and you do not". Muslims must submit to Allah's will as revealed in The Book WITHOUT JUDGING ALLAH'S PLAN, even if they are confused or even repelled by His commands. Human understanding is feeble; The Divine Will is inerrant. Period.
Change a word, a syllable, a vowel, an accent mark ... and the resulting book is no longer the Literal Word Of God. Change ~any~ thing, and you no longer have
Islam.
Which is why Islam is Islam and will always *BE* Islam. It CAN NOT change.
Posted by: Deip-Lo, Rabble Extraordinaire at January 29, 2017 10:28 PM (Tx/U+)
770
TEST
Posted by: RickZ at January 30, 2017 02:08 AM (32Cwc)
Posted by: Bob at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (fVGlW)
772
I've lived in a Muslim country and went on short visits over a period of twenty years. I don't go anymore, I wouldn't even if someone paid me to, and I don't think we should be inviting hordes of Muslims onto our shores. I met some very lovely people, particularly in the earlier years of my travel there, but over time I noticed a regression in... how do I put it. Human feeling, common feeling, and common sense, I think. Some of this came from being fed increasing amounts of propaganda originating, I think, in the Saudi wahhabi networks. Social media and al Jazeera spreading a sense of generalized grievance. And of course the Iraq War, not least of all.
Still, there is something ingrained which is foul. I will never forget stumbling across a Jewish cemetery in a ghetto part of town in a so-called "moderate, secular democracy." Most of the Jews of the district had been chased out. In their absence, the locals had turned many of the gravestones into paving stones for a walking path shortcut through the cemetery. They blissfully walked across the names of dead Jews. A few hardy families had tried to prevent vandalism by encasing their ancestor's grave in iron bars. Even that didn't work.
Just a fluke, you say? No. I did a language project whereby I bought middle school civics and history textbooks and prepared a report on them. I was sickened by the anti-Jewish and anti-Christian propaganda. I had a supposedly educated young woman tell me Jews never bathed. In fact, I've heard some of the vilest, stupidest things come out of the pilaf holes of women in hijabs.
And the men. I met numerous women, Europeans and Americans, married to local men. These relationships all inevitably ended the same way. One day I had the treat of escorting a visitor through my city, an attractive young African American woman. Normally I would counter the rude comments of men on the street with little "tsk, tsk" pronouncements in the local language to shut them up. That day, with the black woman, I kept my expression blank and said nothing. I was so glad that she couldn't understand the things being said about her, and didn't want to have to explain why I was so angry.
So yes. I believe that Islam as it is taught and practiced today is incompatible with western values. It is only Americans' naivete and ignorance that makes anyone think otherwise. We assume people are pretty much like us, just with a different flavor. Some people are curry flavored and some taste like Texas bbq, isn't it grand! No. It is not so. We are better off with as few of that sort as we can manage to let in.
To contrast this, all the Copts and Persian Christians I've met have been truly wonderful.
Still, there is something ingrained which is foul. I will never forget stumbling across a Jewish cemetery in a ghetto part of town in a so-called "moderate, secular democracy." Most of the Jews of the district had been chased out. In their absence, the locals had turned many of the gravestones into paving stones for a walking path shortcut through the cemetery. They blissfully walked across the names of dead Jews. A few hardy families had tried to prevent vandalism by encasing their ancestor's grave in iron bars. Even that didn't work.
Just a fluke, you say? No. I did a language project whereby I bought middle school civics and history textbooks and prepared a report on them. I was sickened by the anti-Jewish and anti-Christian propaganda. I had a supposedly educated young woman tell me Jews never bathed. In fact, I've heard some of the vilest, stupidest things come out of the pilaf holes of women in hijabs.
And the men. I met numerous women, Europeans and Americans, married to local men. These relationships all inevitably ended the same way. One day I had the treat of escorting a visitor through my city, an attractive young African American woman. Normally I would counter the rude comments of men on the street with little "tsk, tsk" pronouncements in the local language to shut them up. That day, with the black woman, I kept my expression blank and said nothing. I was so glad that she couldn't understand the things being said about her, and didn't want to have to explain why I was so angry.
So yes. I believe that Islam as it is taught and practiced today is incompatible with western values. It is only Americans' naivete and ignorance that makes anyone think otherwise. We assume people are pretty much like us, just with a different flavor. Some people are curry flavored and some taste like Texas bbq, isn't it grand! No. It is not so. We are better off with as few of that sort as we can manage to let in.
To contrast this, all the Copts and Persian Christians I've met have been truly wonderful.
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