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UK Prime Minister Teresa May Gives Speech Indicating She'll Be Pursuing the "Hard Brexit" Option

There are three general options May could choose:

"Hard Brexit," where the UK exits the common market entirely and relies only on general trade agreements of the World Trade Organization in trading with its continental partners (plus any bilateral agreements it can strike up). The UK would gain almost all of its sovereignty back in this option.

Favoured by ardent Brexiteers, a hard Brexit arrangement would likely see the UK give up full access to the single market and full access of the customs union along with the EU.

The arrangement would prioritise giving Britain full control over its borders, making new trade deals and applying laws within its own territory.

"Soft Brexit" means the UK bargains with the EU and tries to remain in the common market by making some concessions on otherwise-sovereign decisionmaking -- almost surely on immigration. And because Angela Merkel's government has suggested that there will be no special breaks for the UK unless they cave on just about everything else, "Soft Brexit" means, basically, almost no real Brexit at all. Germany (and France) has the whip hand, and they know it. Any minor concession by the EU will only come with major concessions from the UK.

Finally, there was (maybe still is) the possibility of "No Brexit at all." After all, a referendum by the people doesn't have to be respected by the political elites. The political elites really don't care much about the consent of the governed.

But May has been saying for a while that "Brexit means Brexit," and that she will not seek to undermine the people's decision.

Now she's delivered a speech about the principles guiding her in negotiating Britain's exit from the EU, and most are taking this as a "Hard Brexit" positioning. Though, of course, this is negotiating tactic; it's possible she's just matching Germany's declared hardline stance with her own hardline stance, and that something between Hard and Soft can be agreed to once everyone has done the required number of "I'm leaving this room, do not contact me again" door-slams.

Here are some of the principles she claims she will fight for:

May has set out her Brexit plans over 12 points in a speech at Lancaster House in London. Key among these was a commitment for the UK to leave the EU's single market, and that MPs and peers will get a final vote on the deal.

Other elements of the speech included that the UK would not be a full member of the customs union, but would hope to strike some sort of tariff-free deal, and continue to cooperate over areas like crime and anti-terrorism.

May said that “no deal for Britain is better than a bad deal”, raising the possibility of the UK leaving the EU on default World Trade Organisation rules.

She also reiterated Philip Hammond’s threat that if the EU failed to offer a good deal, the UK could move to become a low-tax regime to poach investment.

...

In case you're concerned the MPs could reject May's proposed exit from the common market...

May's spokeswoman also said that the parliamentary vote would not stop Brexit, raising the likelihood that if MPs turned down the eventual deal the UK would leave the EU under WTO trade rules.

May now having rattled her Iron Saber, it's time for the EU to rattle their own; the main spokesman for the group negotiating with Britain for its exit had this to say in return, on Twitter.


Guy Verhofstadt
(@GuyVerhofstadt)
Britain has chosen a hard Brexit. May's clarity is welcome--but the days of UK cherry-picking and Europe a la cart are over.


Guy Verhofstadt
(@GuyVerhofstadt)
Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic
January 17, 2017

World War Trump, it sounds like.


Posted by: Ace at 03:06 PM




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1 FIRST!!!!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2017 03:08 PM (vP09u)

2 "the days of UK cherry-picking and Europe a la cart are over."

No rapey truck islamist for you!

Posted by: local news at January 17, 2017 03:09 PM (1isJI)

3 Trump has unleashed Thunderdome

Posted by: Jmel at January 17, 2017 03:10 PM (v4EN5)

4 "Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only
hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic"

Top clown of the EU shitshow knows stuff!

Posted by: local news at January 17, 2017 03:10 PM (1isJI)

5
Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic

Hit me! Beat me!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 03:11 PM (IqV8l)

6 >> The UK would gain almost all of its sovereignty back in this option.


That's the Hardline?

'Almost All of its sovereignty...'

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2017 03:11 PM (xd0pN)

7 And we- The USA and PE Trump- should, MUST Support The UK 100%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (sRFAL)

8 The UK is lucky that, because of geography as much as anything, they can make this break and there ain't a lot the EU can do about it.

Wait until a smaller mainland country tries it.

Could very well mean war.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (qcr5D)

9 Guy Verhofstadt
(@GuyVerhofstadt)
Britain has chosen a hard Brexit. May's clarity is welcome--but the days of UK cherry-picking and Europe a la cart are over.

Guy Verhofstadt
(@GuyVerhofstadt)
Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic
January 17, 2017

==============================

Translation: Attracting businesses through favorable tax policy is just the worst, because reasons. It's not like anyone running a company in France, German, or Italy would ever think of moving to the UK just because they could make and keep more money. It's absurd!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (/prE6)

10 If you like your Davos, you can get the f*** out of the country.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (WDCYi)

11 Reminder: We are still talking about the world's fifth-largest economy. It's not like the UK is Tonga threatening the rest of the world.

May has some cards to play and I think the EU is beginning to see them.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (B+qrE)

12 I find that chicks usually prefer a softer Brexit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

13 Could very well mean war.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (qcr5D)

Ya gotta have theses things every 30 years or so to clear away all the bad blood

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (sRFAL)

14 Mongo just pawn in game of life....

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (qUNWi)

15 I want to see Teresa May and Angela Merkel GET IT ON.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 17, 2017 03:14 PM (vP09u)

16 My Brexit is hard...

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 17, 2017 03:14 PM (RD7QR)

17 8 The UK is lucky that, because of geography as much as anything, they can make this break and there ain't a lot the EU can do about it.

Wait until a smaller mainland country tries it.

Could very well mean war.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (qcr5D)

======================

Who would fight in a war to keep Italy in the EU?

What army would they use? Would Italy be worth the treasure?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:14 PM (/prE6)

18 My Brexit is so hard... let me tweet you a pic

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (DpOmP)

19
She's Stalling.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (0O7Yf)

20 Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people

Yeah, it sounds just awful.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (2z74n)

21 BREAKING: Trade cartels are inherently unstable.

Developing...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (8ZskC)

22 Could very well mean war.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (qcr5D)

Ya gotta have theses things every 30 years or so to clear away all the bad blood


Someone would first have to have one of them, what do you call them again....oh, yes...armies.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (B+qrE)

23 https://tinyurl.com/jypz85b

Project Veritas Part 2 On the "Anti- Fascists"

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (y3aQB)

24
What Theresa May and her party of fake conservative Shits are doing for Brexit is exactly what our Republican Shits are doing for obamacare. Stalling.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (0O7Yf)

25 Ya gotta have theses things every 30 years or so to clear away all the bad blood

Heh ...

... but I ain't kidding. Think Merkel would hesitate to do an international version of a repo, using German troops, all in the name of "protecting EU interests" if given half a chance ?

I think the bitch is dying to try.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (qcr5D)

26 Brexit makes me hard...

Posted by: Adam Smith at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (DpOmP)

27 Well, if Trump is serious about the US maintaining the special relationship with Britain, that's going to be another chip to use against the EU. I think she's betting a little on that right now.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (3sOO0)

28 11 Reminder: We are still talking about the world's fifth-largest economy. It's not like the UK is Tonga threatening the rest of the world.

May has some cards to play and I think the EU is beginning to see them.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (B+qrE)

=======================

Plus, it seems like Trump will be behind the UK in this, supporting them as he can. And, Trump seems to be showing people the advantage of actual negotiation between partners: Stake out a position, refuse to move, threaten to leave the room, and wait for the other side to crumble.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (/prE6)

29
BREXITBONER!!!

It's like a schadenboner but it comes in pints.

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:16 PM (8b+oT)

30
Translation: Attracting businesses through favorable tax policy is just the worst, because reasons. It's not like anyone running a company in France, German, or Italy would ever think of moving to the UK just because they could make and keep more money. It's absurd!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:13 PM (/prE6)

Ireland says hello.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:17 PM (8hICw)

31 Teresa obviously loves having her pussy grabbed.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 03:17 PM (HgMAr)

32 Even I think Davos is awful. Like, SPECTRE run by Cybermen and staffed by Sith, under contract with the Decepticons awful.

Posted by: Davros at January 17, 2017 03:17 PM (u0s1P)

33 Think Merkel would hesitate to do an international version of a repo, using German troops,

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Let's please get back to being a serious military blog.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:17 PM (B+qrE)

34
In about 2 weeks Republican Shits are gonna come out tell us how "expensive" it will be to repeal obamacare and how conservative it would be just to "tweak" it.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:18 PM (0O7Yf)

35 Someone would first have to have one of them, what do you call them again....oh, yes...armies.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (B+qrE)

...if a NATO country started attacking a NATO country... is the US obligated in some way?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:18 PM (8hICw)

36 Wait until a smaller mainland country tries it.

Could very well mean war.


With what army? That's the real reason Merkel's in a tizzy over Trump saying NATO has outlived its usefulness.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 03:18 PM (3J/LN)

37 Oh the Europeons are at war again... oh happy and joyous day!

Posted by: Former mass resident at January 17, 2017 03:18 PM (d6Zcu)

38 5
Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic

Hit me! Beat me!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
-------------

Please, please, Br'er Fox, don't throw me in that brier patch.

Posted by: Br'er Rabbit at January 17, 2017 03:19 PM (ZO497)

39 how do you type the fucking sound Pam and Cheryl make on Archer?



May should have that under her as a caption.



Posted by: yankeefifth at January 17, 2017 03:19 PM (cPsPa)

40 Wehrmacht?

There, macht.

Posted by: Eyegore at January 17, 2017 03:19 PM (8ZskC)

41 Rhode Island could kick Germany's ass.

Posted by: Arthur at January 17, 2017 03:19 PM (qUNWi)

42 ...if a NATO country started attacking a NATO country... is the US obligated in some way?

Ronaldus Magnus once parked the Sixth Fleet in the Aegean and told the Turks and the Greeks to knock it off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (B+qrE)

43 Rhode Island could kick Germany's ass.


Maybe even France.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (8ZskC)

44 Iron Mayden?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (FtrY1)

45 Rhode Island could kick Germany's ass.
Posted by: Arthur at January 17, 2017 03:19 PM


RI can barely run an ad campaign, never mind a military.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (3sOO0)

46 May's paying attention to what's happening on our side of the pond. I wonder if, if EU loving Cankles had won, if she would be pushing "soft Brexit" now, knowing that the US would not have her back?

And let's see how long France stays in the EU...

Brussels bureaucrats - that rancid smell you're smelling right now? Trump and May pissed on your bed.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (ZM2xo)

47 36 With what army? That's the real reason Merkel's in a tizzy over Trump saying NATO has outlived its usefulness.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 03:18 PM (3J/LN)

=====================

Imagine the panic across Europe if they suddenly became solely responsible for their national defense.

They'd give themselves over to Russia before making cuts to their welfare states.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (/prE6)

48
I'm telling you, it's Failure Theater and they're all colluding.

Brexit vote was in June. That was 6 months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (0O7Yf)

49 does not the uk have one hot woman who is also conservative?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (cPsPa)

50 Merkel rhymes with Urkel, who will be history on Friday.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (HgMAr)

51 7 And we- The USA and PE Trump- should, MUST Support The UK 100%
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (sRFAL)



I am reminded of historian Paul Johnson, who has suggested that the UK ask to join NAFTA, and that said organization be broadened to include the Greater Anglosphere.

Of course there is that Mexico problem.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (ujg0T)

52 42 ...if a NATO country started attacking a NATO country... is the US obligated in some way?

Ronaldus Magnus once parked the Sixth Fleet in the Aegean and told the Turks and the Greeks to knock it off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (B+qrE)

Ok, but Turkey and Greece are basically JV members. What if France/Germany attacked Britain?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (8hICw)

53 42 ...if a NATO country started attacking a NATO country... is the US obligated in some way?

Ronaldus Magnus once parked the Sixth Fleet in the Aegean and told the Turks and the Greeks to knock it off.



Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (B+qrE)


I think that JEF was desperately hoping to throw American lives away in defense of Turkey as soon as Erdogan popped off and did something stupid.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (WDCYi)

54 EU can eat a bag-o-Brexit

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (jsWA8)

55 The UK kinda has a history bucking "Continental Systems"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (9krrF)

56 Brexit is a proven idea

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (DpOmP)

57 Teresa, darlin', y'all did good gittin' out of a bad relationship, but remember what the yankees did to South Carolina. Some friendly advice-
The catfish said to the trout,
be sure you have your route picked out.

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (zLDYs)

58 Seems to me that a statement similar to this one would be a good opening stance-

"Regulate this, you scum sucking Euro weenie snow pimps!"

Although, I've never been known for much in the way of social graces. Her way is prolly better.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (X+nFp)

59 Imagine the panic across Europe if they suddenly became solely responsible for their national defense.

Twitter would overload from the number of Americans asking European peaceniks how much they hate the US military NOW.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (3J/LN)

60 the panic across Europe if they suddenly became solely responsible for their national defense.

They'd give themselves over to Russia before making cuts to their welfare states.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (/prE6)




then wait until putin cuts their gas off. europe is going to be one big hairy depraved russian whore house when putin is done with them, without Trump. bitches.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (cPsPa)

61 The UK kinda has a history bucking "Continental Systems"...


Mon dieu!

Posted by: Napoleon at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (8ZskC)

62
Are Brexit and the repeal of obamacare gonna go the way of California's Prop 8?

Yes, yes they are.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (0O7Yf)

63 With what army?

My GoogleFu says Germany has 325,000 active duty and reserve personnel. Good enough for #9 in the world according to something called globalfirepower.com, wich says is based on current and potential power.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (qcr5D)

64 Ok, but Turkey and Greece are basically JV members. What if France/Germany attacked Britain?

Well, other than France's nukes...with what exactly?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (B+qrE)

65 56 Brexit is a proven idea
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (DpOmP)

I laughed.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (8hICw)

66 That's right, if France leaves the EU, I will go there and launch ballistic dildos to stop them.

Posted by: European Weenie Dildo Thrower at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (aOqpx)

67 It's fun watching Euroweenies behaving as if Europe has always been a united and friendly place.

As if they are entirely unaware of their own history. Or completely oblivious to the concept of human nature.

Go, Britain, go and don't look back. Tell the damned continent to pound (pun intended) sand, and enjoy its future as a Muslim caliphate.

Meanwhile. Walls. Big honkin' walls.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:23 PM (TOk1P)

68 >>RI can barely run an ad campaign, never mind a military.

Ok, that was a low blow. Sure, Rhode Island Cooler and Warmer was embarrassingly stupid but ...

fuck

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 03:23 PM (/tuJf)

69 What implications does that have for immigration?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:23 PM (NOIQH)

70 Please don't Brexit... i'm not ready yet...

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at January 17, 2017 03:23 PM (DpOmP)

71 64 Ok, but Turkey and Greece are basically JV members. What if France/Germany attacked Britain?

Well, other than France's nukes...with what exactly?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (B+qrE)

Look, I get that there's no army. Say they all just declared war against each other. Wouldn't that trigger a NATO clause?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (8hICw)

72 >.My GoogleFu says Germany has 325,000 active duty and reserve personnel.


And how many young, male "refugees" have they taken in over the past 1 1/2 years?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (NOIQH)

73 #47

They'd give themselves over to Russia before making cuts to their welfare states.
=============

But that would require Poland's permission to allow Russian troops to cross its borders.

Where have I read about that scenario before?

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (JBggj)

74 My GoogleFu says Germany has 325,000 active duty and reserve personnel. Good enough for #9 in the world according to something called globalfirepower.com, wich says is based on current and potential power.

They also use painted broomsticks for machine gun stand-ins and haven't fired a shot in anger in seventy years.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (B+qrE)

75 The UK has a few muslums of their own ....

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (r/0kC)

76 Reagan + Thatcher = Trump + May?

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (CLKfs)

77 If Putin tries to fvck Turkey, will Grease help?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (jsWA8)

78 The Euro fucks are fucked without getting fucked.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (ONH2e)

79
Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.

New York said the same thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (0O7Yf)

80 59 Imagine the panic across Europe if they suddenly became solely responsible for their national defense.

Twitter would overload from the number of Americans asking European peaceniks how much they hate the US military NOW.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (3J/LN)

======================

Don't forget the Left damning Trump for not being satisfied with killing poor old people in America, he had to do it in Europe too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (/prE6)

81 The EU is kind of on the ropes right now. Its almost universally unpopular as a concept, it has a ton of unelected people from other nations ruling over people that don't like them, its so radical left that its annoying even Europeans with its idiotic regulations, and nation after nation are seriously eyeing what England did as a real option.

The rich nations are sick of the poor nations living off their hard work, the poor nations are sick of rich nations telling them what to do and how to live, and everyone is sick of the EU leadership -- mostly Germany and France -- telling them they must accept millions of unassimilating, often radical thugs and rapists.

So the UK is not going to get any good deals or negotiation with the EU unless they are totally supine and obedient.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+)

82 "Hard?!? Somebody page me??"

Posted by: Sandy Fluke at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (ty7RM)

83 >>Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.


New York said the same thing.


"Free"
I don't think that word means what you think it means....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (NOIQH)

84 48


I'm telling you, it's Failure Theater and they're all colluding.



Brexit vote was in June. That was 6 months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (0O7Yf)

They want to fail but I dont think Trump will let them.

Posted by: local news at January 17, 2017 03:26 PM (1isJI)

85 73 But that would require Poland's permission to allow Russian troops to cross its borders.

Where have I read about that scenario before?
Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (JBggj)

======================

Well, since history began in January of 2009 with Obama's inauguration, I couldn't possibly tell you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:26 PM (/prE6)

86 55 The UK kinda has a history bucking "Continental Systems"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (9krrF)

Yeah, it's sort of unnatural for the Brits to be in a political system with the Continentals, who they have distrusted for centuries.

Their ties to India are closer. I remember meeting a cranky old Brit back in the '80's who told me he had more in common with his Indian neighbor than with the frogs...

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:26 PM (ZM2xo)

87 83 >>Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.


New York said the same thing.


"Free"
I don't think that word means what you think it means....
Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (NOIQH)

"Free"

Translation: You're going to be paying for your college education, and everyone else's college education. FOREVER

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (8hICw)

88 The Frogs will vote to leave next - starting this August with Le Pen winning.

Posted by: IC at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (a0IVu)

89
You know for all these offices and seats held by Republicans all over the nation I'm still waiting for the Rightward shift to commence...

Or at least a Halt to the leftward shift.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (0O7Yf)

90
Ronaldus Magnus once parked the Sixth Fleet in the Aegean and told the Turks and the Greeks to knock it off.


The image of Turkish paratroopers landing in Cyprus is seared into my memory, but I had to look up the date. It was 1974. What was going on that Reagan sent in the Sixth Fleet?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (ACM1V)

91 79
Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.

New York said the same thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM (0O7Yf)

=====================

Good for Rhode Island. Can she also promise to never ask for a bailout from another state in the Union in any way shape or form when it inevitably becomes a giant boondoggle that costs way way WAY more than expected?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (/prE6)

92
51 7 And we- The USA and PE Trump- should, MUST Support The UK 100%
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:12 PM (sRFAL)


I am reminded of historian Paul Johnson, who has suggested that the UK ask to join NAFTA, and that said organization be broadened to include the Greater Anglosphere.

Of course there is that Mexico problem.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (ujg0T)

Very oldtimey Churchill idea from the 30's. English speaking Commonwealth trading zone.
Sounds attractive but will be labeled racist.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (FtrY1)

93 If Trump actually pulls his Wall of Doom off, I think it would be a no-brainer to ship the UN to Brussels where they belong. And send The Global Community a bill for trans.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (ty7RM)

94 They also use painted broomsticks for machine gun stand-ins and haven't fired a shot in anger in seventy years.

I actually have fought a guy before swinging a broom-stick.

It hurt.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:28 PM (qcr5D)

95 89
You know for all these offices and seats held by Republicans all over the nation I'm still waiting for the Rightward shift to commence...

Or at least a Halt to the leftward shift.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (0O7Yf)

You're forgetting:

Nobody runs big government better than the republicans. Nobody.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:28 PM (8hICw)

96 Looks like we got ourselves a European version of a Mississippi Slap Fight!

Ooohweeeeee!

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:28 PM (8b+oT)

97 The image of Turkish paratroopers landing in Cyprus is seared into my memory, but I had to look up the date. It was 1974. What was going on that Reagan sent in the Sixth Fleet?

'86, I think it was. Murmurings over some the disputed islands or sea shelf as I recall.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:28 PM (B+qrE)

98 Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.

New York said the same thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:25 PM


They did the same thing to video game studio run by a baseball player too. I mean, not college, but free money. Such smart people. /s

Posted by: Flyguy at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (3sOO0)

99 The thing is, I suspect the EU needs the UK a heck of a lot more than the UK needs the EU. The UK has been doing trade worldwide for three centuries, they have everything in place already and a friendly US government again. The EU, not so much, and they are busy being obnoxious to trading partners with their climate change/carbon tax/regulation nonsense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (39g3+)

100 Yeah,I think a FREXIT is likely too,unless the elites fix the election.But they wouldn't do that,right Austria?

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (r/0kC)

101 93 If Trump actually pulls his Wall of Doom off, I think it would be a no-brainer to ship the UN to Brussels where they belong. And send The Global Community a bill for trans.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (ty7RM)

Come on, surely there aren't that many of them trying to change their sex.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (8hICw)

102 My GoogleFu says Germany has 325,000 active duty and reserve personnel. Good enough for #9 in the world according to something called globalfirepower.com, wich says is based on current and potential power.
===

You may be right. OTOH, I recall reading an article a few years back that said a good portion of the German military isn't in fighting shape.

Posted by: Independent George at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (BDZWU)

103 I seem to recall that the UK was a net contributor to the EU of somewhere around 300 million euros per month. I don't think leaving is going to be a problem for the Brits.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (7ZVPa)

104 Very oldtimey Churchill idea from the 30's. English speaking Commonwealth trading zone.
Sounds attractive but will be labeled racist.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (FtrY1)

Shoot, you're racist for remembering it and making that post!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (8hICw)

105 >>You know for all these offices and seats held by Republicans all over the nation I'm still waiting for the Rightward shift to commence...

Sitting in Massachusetts might not be the best vantage point for watching a national rightward trend. Massachusetts won't be participating.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (/tuJf)

106 https://tinyurl.com/j7akvez

8 Billion worth of Winning from Bayer

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (y3aQB)

107 And just who in the fuck is going to tell you rubes what Camembert cheese is?

WHO?!?

Posted by: Brussels at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (8b+oT)

108 Isn't this the plot of the Star Wars prequels?

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (g84et)

109 103 I seem to recall that the UK was a net contributor to the EU of somewhere around 300 million euros per month. I don't think leaving is going to be a problem for the Brits.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 17, 2017 03:29 PM (7ZVPa)

=====================

"Oh, it is. I swear. Don't ask me how, just trust me. When have the people who supported the European Community...er...Union ever lied to you?'
-Guy Verhofstadt

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (/prE6)

110 Oh, FFS, Gloria Allred is suing Trump with some other "victim" again.

I freakin' haaaate these people and their tired tactics.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:31 PM (NOIQH)

111 My GoogleFu says Germany has 325,000 active duty and reserve personnel. Good enough for #9 in the world according to something called globalfirepower.com, wich says is based on current and potential power.
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They also use painted broomsticks for machine gun stand-ins and haven't fired a shot in anger in seventy years.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:24 PM (B+qrE)


Once upon a time, back in the day I was serving in a unit whose role was to connect with the Germans at the point where the line against the Soviets stood on the border (waiting to die from missiles, but that's another story).

Anyhoo, as an Armored Division in the U.S. Army, we weren't exactly the elite. Compared with the bearded German pukes who were mandated to be in the military (as reservists), we might as well have all been Audie Freakin' Murphy.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:31 PM (TOk1P)

112 Sitting in Massachusetts might not be the best vantage point for watching a national rightward trend. Massachusetts won't be participating.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM


But we'll corner the market on incompetent Kennedy children. So we got that going for us I guess.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 17, 2017 03:31 PM (3sOO0)

113 Isn't this the plot of the Star Wars prequels?

THERE WERE NO STAR WARS PREQUELS.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:31 PM (B+qrE)

114 Or at least a Halt to the leftward shift.

Don't hold your breath.

This is what bothers me. People are acting like the Republic was saved, like now the White House is "ours" as Ace put it a couple days ago. These aren't us, they are politicians, mostly who disagree with us. The nation is still intact, which a Hillary presidency would likely have ended, but the Republic died years ago. Its a matter how how far we stagger on in momentum, not if we get going again.

I hate to rain on peoples' parades, but better now than the horror of realizing later that we did not and cannot vote our way out of this mess.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (39g3+)

115 89
You know for all these offices and seats held by Republicans all over the nation I'm still waiting for the Rightward shift to commence...

Or at least a Halt to the leftward shift.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (0O7Yf)

Trump hasn't been sworn in yet. And it took 100 years to get us to this point, remember. I expect some immediate shifts, but the country won't be transformed overnight.

Pendulums do swing, but sometimes more slowly than we would like.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (ZM2xo)

116 106 https://tinyurl.com/j7akvez

8 Billion worth of Winning from Bayer
Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:30 PM (y3aQB)

Sounds like it's a trade for allowing Bayer to buy Monsanto.

I'm all for capitalism, but jeepers, can't even one large american company stay american? Bud, Miller, Coors....

No, apple doesn't count.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (8hICw)

117
Oh, FFS, Gloria Allred is suing Trump with some other "victim" again.


Is her name hillary, by any chance?

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (0O7Yf)

118 You notice how, with a few tweets, Trump is getting movement from the sclerotic nations of Europe. A little bluster about the uselessness of NATO and they are talking about standing on their own two feet. Start talking about the special relationship with England and the EU impotently whines.

Posted by: ejo at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (il4FI)

119 Rhode Island governor, a stupid woman, said today she's gonna give free college to residents.


New York said the same thing.


I don't think that is hers to give.

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (CLKfs)

120 world war TRUMP

Me likey

Posted by: @votermom's phone at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (8uUK+)

121
It's not just the White House and Congress.

Republicans have most state govts.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:33 PM (0O7Yf)

122 118 You notice how, with a few tweets, Trump is getting movement from the sclerotic nations of Europe. A little bluster about the uselessness of NATO and they are talking about standing on their own two feet. Start talking about the special relationship with England and the EU impotently whines.
Posted by: ejo at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (il4FI)

======================

Hard to believe that a guy who (co-)wrote a book called The Art of the Deal would know something about deal making.

Weird...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:33 PM (/prE6)

123
I hate to rain on peoples' parades, but better now than the horror of realizing later that we did not and cannot vote our way out of this mess.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (39g3+)

It's going to at least require people refusing the hand-outs that the government "provides".

It will likely require real, actual civil disobedience, if not outright fighting.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:33 PM (8hICw)

124 Brexit vote was in June. That was 6 months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (0O7Yf)

Even then, it was generally conceded that it would take a year or two to effect the separation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2017 03:33 PM (LRVnP)

125 THERE WERE NO STAR WARS PREQUELS.

They had a plot?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:34 PM (39g3+)

126 They don't call POTUS the most powerful man in the world for nothing.(I know,Sexist!)

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 03:34 PM (r/0kC)

127 I don't think that is hers to give.
Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (CLKfs)

The people of Rhode Island elected her. Whether or not she can, she did.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:34 PM (8hICw)

128 I remember when the EU was coming together. The MFM were coming all over themselves; they were certain this was going to be the start of Utopian super-states and universal currency. Also whirled peas and free shit for everyone, everywhere.
How's that working out for you?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 17, 2017 03:34 PM (ty7RM)

129 Breaking911
Trump accuser: I will drop lawsuit if Trump retracts statement calling me a liar


Better chance of Gloria Allred getting Laid today

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (y3aQB)

130 124
Even then, it was generally conceded that it would take a year or two to effect the separation.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2017 03:33 PM (LRVnP)

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Which obviously means that globalists are going to succeed at stopping it.

I mean, there's really no other explanation. It's not like it would be hard to disentangle from a neighboring power that has extended control over many parts of your country overnight. Right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (/prE6)

131 Very oldtimey Churchill idea from the 30's. English speaking Commonwealth trading zone.

Sounds attractive but will be labeled racist.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 17, 2017 03:27 PM (FtrY1)

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Honey Badger Trump doesn't give a sh*t about the labelers. In Davos, the Chinese Communist Party premier quoted the Gettysburg Address and other high-falutin' democratic slogans in defense of "free" trade. The assembled elites in their seal-slick skins gave him a rousing ovation.
Meanwhile, Chinese dissidents continue to be harassed and imprisoned, while the ChiComs turn the screws on the opposition media, such as it is.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (JBggj)

132 THERE WERE NO STAR WARS PREQUELS.


***it's an older code, but it checks out***

Posted by: Arthur at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (qUNWi)

133 Well, other than France's nukes...with what exactly?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:22 PM (B+qrE)

Britain has nukes, too, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (LRVnP)

134 128 I remember when the EU was coming together. The MFM were coming all over themselves; they were certain this was going to be the start of Utopian super-states and universal currency. Also whirled peas and free shit for everyone, everywhere.
How's that working out for you?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 17, 2017 03:34 PM (ty7RM)

=======================

I remember when the EU was coming together...I was 8 years old.

Damn, some of you people are old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (/prE6)

135 Hard to believe that a guy who (co-)wrote a book called The Art of the Deal would know something about deal making.



Weird...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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"How can he make these companies stay in America? It's a done deal. What does he have, a magic wand?"

Posted by: "Barely" Obama at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (8b+oT)

136 >>And just who in the fuck is going to tell you rubes what Camembert cheese is?


And micro manage the dimensions of the bottles that can be used by restaurants to provide olive oil on cafe tables?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (NOIQH)

137 Better chance of Gloria Allred getting Laid today

Who will fuck her?

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (ONH2e)

138 Trump accuser: I will drop lawsuit if Trump retracts statement calling me a liar

Translation: I have no case and am admitting up front there was no trauma or mistreatment.

I think mostly what happened is that Allred noticed all the people mocking her fleet of floozies vanished after the election and wants to create some semblance of validity to her election stunts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

139 137 Better chance of Gloria Allred getting Laid today

Who will fuck her?
Posted by: R. DUKE at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (ONH2e)

There's a question that should never be dangled in front of the horde. Someone will take it up as a challenge.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (8hICw)

140 135 "How can he make these companies stay in America? It's a done deal. What does he have, a magic wand?"
Posted by: "Barely" Obama at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (8b+oT)

=====================

"Modern day Cato. Truly at master wordsmith."
-The New York Times

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:37 PM (/prE6)

141 Germany has troops, but no logistics to use them far away.

It hasn't come up before what with France right there.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 17, 2017 03:37 PM (VdICR)

142 Oh, FFS, Gloria Allred is suing Trump with some other "victim" again.

I don't believe "The Victim" has filed a police report yet. Maybe because filing false sexual assault reports can put you in jail. It's 100% Boolshit.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 17, 2017 03:37 PM (ty7RM)

143 farty sock

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 03:37 PM (qUNWi)

144 Breaking911
Trump accuser: I will drop lawsuit if Trump retracts statement calling me a liar

------------------
Better chance of Gloria Allred getting Laid today

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (y3aQB)

That's easy: Who am I to say you were lying. You might be entirely delusional, perfectly incapable of knowing reality from fantasy.

So sure, maybe you weren't lying at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

145 At least the Euro is dumping down to a more reasonable level of value. Remember when it started out as being supposedly worth like $4? That was insane, in no conceivable way was the EU worth 4 times as much economic power as the United States. We have individual states with a greater GDP than France or Germany alone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:38 PM (39g3+)

146 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:32 PM (39g3+)

You can't say that yet, Christopher. Nor can I say with any certainty that the pendulum will swing back, along I want to think that. Richard Fernandez of Belmont Club, who is no Mary Sunshine, thinks the left might be in the process of destroying itself.

But none of us know - because we're in the middle of it. One of those scenarios will play out - or maybe a unknown unknown we don't see coming - and it will look obvious to historians blessed with hindsight 100 years from now, but we just don't know now.

Could anybody in 1890 have forseen the 20th century?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:38 PM (ZM2xo)

147 OMG did Trump grab another pussy? That does it, I'm registering Democrat tomorrow!

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 03:38 PM (HgMAr)

148 Germany has troops, but no logistics to use them far away.

Or even a whiff of will to do so.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (B+qrE)

149
I'm all for capitalism, but jeepers, can't even one large american company stay american? Bud, Miller, Coors....

No, apple doesn't count.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric


The measure of a dynamic economy is not how many large corps are avoid foreign buyouts; it's how many businesses are started.

If they want to buy all of our cash-cow dependent, headed for obsolescent businesses, they're welcome.

Let a billion companies bloom.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (V3IFq)

150 Posted by: R. DUKE at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (ONH2e)

EXACTLY My point

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (y3aQB)

151 I'm removing the T's from all computers in the WH! Me so funny!

Posted by: FLOTUS at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (bc2Lc)

152 How can he make these companies stay in America? It's a done deal. What does he have, a magic wand?

I think these were some of the most honest words Obama has ever spoken. I believe he could not conceive of any way the economy could get better or these companies could be made to stay. That there was literally no possible way, since he'd tried and it didn't work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)

153
This morning CNN claimed to have a breaking news scoop that "GOP Aides" said Republicans were "in the dark" about Trump's obamacare replacement.

Then "GOP aides" became "GOP Sources."

The story is Fake News. There is not even a story, just a title.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:40 PM (0O7Yf)

154
Europe's key exports are chocolate, Islam, general Joo-hate and sloth.

They need England more than vice versa, and we sure could use their soccer hooliganism here. Just kidding. The UK will flourish economically with the rest of the world and us. Now if they could only get rid of their own Islamic problem (which I strongly doubt).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:40 PM (mbhDw)

155 Merkel is watching the Europe she was supposed to lead gradually spinning apart, but does not recognize or will not acknowledge that it's her policies creating that result. The Fourth Reich will outlast the Third, but by how long?

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:41 PM (TppKb)

156 That there was literally no possible way, since he'd tried and it didn't work.

TFG did not "try." He had not one, NOT ONE serious economic moment in eight years.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:41 PM (B+qrE)

157 This morning CNN claimed to have a breaking news scoop that "GOP Aides" said Republicans were "in the dark" about Trump's obamacare replacement.

Then "GOP aides" became "GOP Sources."

The story is Fake News. There is not even a story, just a title.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:40 PM (0O7Yf)

What is this "CNN" you speakith about?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:42 PM (sRFAL)

158 You can't say that yet, Christopher. Nor can I say with any certainty that the pendulum will swing back, along I want to think that. Richard Fernandez of Belmont Club, who is no Mary Sunshine, thinks the left might be in the process of destroying itself.

Yeah and we'll never see a GOP majority in our lifetimes. People make all kind of silly statements after a major election and they're all stupid crap. Nothing has changed, the culture is where things have to be fixed, not shuffling around the guys at the top. Until the culture, education, entertainment, and the worldview of the people changes, no amount of Republicans in office will make any difference other than the speed of the burn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:42 PM (39g3+)

159 153
This morning CNN claimed to have a breaking news scoop that "GOP Aides" said Republicans were "in the dark" about Trump's obamacare replacement.

Then "GOP aides" became "GOP Sources."

The story is Fake News. There is not even a story, just a title.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:40 PM (0O7Yf)

====================

"It's not fake news if it doesn't come from a Macedonian teenager posting on Facebook. That's #science."
-CNN

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:42 PM (/prE6)

160 153
This morning CNN claimed to have a breaking news scoop that "GOP Aides" said Republicans were "in the dark" about Trump's obamacare replacement.

Then "GOP aides" became "GOP Sources."

The story is Fake News. There is not even a story, just a title.
Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 17, 2017 03:40 PM (0O7Yf)


Pro Tip, or Sad Reality: Learn to read and watch the news the way Russians used to during Soviet times.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:42 PM (mbhDw)

161 I'm removing the T's from all computers in the WH! Me so funny!

Posted by: FLOTUS
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At least when the Obama crew fucks up the White House, we'll hear about it first hand from the president, instead of Bush trying to be "above it all' by ignoring it like it never happened when the Clintons did it.

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:43 PM (8b+oT)

162 Hard option? Yes!

Too many shadows, whispering voices

faces on posters, too many choices

If? When? Why? What?

How much have you got?

Have you got it? Do you get it?

If so, how often?

Which do you choose

a hard or soft option?

(How much do you need?)

Posted by: George Lynch at January 17, 2017 03:43 PM (ufoE3)

163 The US and UK should make their own uuuuuuge luxurious trade agreement.

Posted by: Lauren at January 17, 2017 03:43 PM (vc3XT)

164 Germany has troops, but no logistics to use them far away.

Or even a whiff of will to do so.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:39 PM (B+qrE)




Slap some uniforms on their "migrants" and tell them to go tear assing across the Continent. Maybe a nice long Russian campaign for those migrants who have nothing else better do to except attack German women

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 17, 2017 03:44 PM (493sH)

165
What about that Super Hardon Collider?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

166 "Hard Brexit" sounds like a "biscuit" -- a cookie, in Americanese.

Like the ones you have to soak in hot coffee before attempting to eat.

A ginger snap, maybe.

Posted by: filbert at January 17, 2017 03:44 PM (s5o+q)

167 Slap some uniforms on their "migrants" and tell them to go tear assing across the Continent. Maybe a nice long Russian campaign for those migrants who have nothing else better do to except attack German women
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 17, 2017 03:44 PM


Wasn't that the plot of Dune?

Posted by: Flyguy at January 17, 2017 03:44 PM (3sOO0)

168 It's not like it would be hard to disentangle from a neighboring power that has extended control over many parts of your country overnight. Right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:35 PM (/prE6)

No, the best thing is to just go with the DOOM!! That's what we're used to, we're not used to winning here.

We're the exact opposite of leftists - in good ways but also in bad. No matter how bleak the outlook is, they still believe they are going to win and they always come back because they never stop fighting. We have roses fall on us and bitch about the thorns.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (ZM2xo)

169 Only thing harder than Brexit is my schadenboner

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (7HtZB)

170 155 Merkel is watching the Europe she was supposed to lead gradually spinning apart, but does not recognize or will not acknowledge that it's her policies creating that result. The Fourth Reich will outlast the Third, but by how long?
Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:41 PM (TppKb)

=======================

Funny, but if Merkel had just taken a more modest road in terms of the refugee crisis (say, by saying that they will up their rate of acceptance, but they have a hard stop and they must either integrate into German society or risk expulsion), there's a small chance that Brexit wouldn't have happened (no refugee crisis, then no increased anxiety over the EU overall other than the Euro, which was bad enough).

Just goes to show what happens when you rule by hubris without any concern for what people actually want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (/prE6)

171 Regarding that Variety cover: how long did the photoshop guys have to work slimming down Lena? She looks like Emma Watson in that pic.

TFG did not "try." He had not one, NOT ONE serious economic moment in eight years.

Hey, he made a phonecall and talked to that guy. And then there was the letter he wrote to someone once. He thought about it while golfing. That all counts dang it!!!!

/leftist

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

172 Wasn't there a song out of the UK about hard and soft options plus West End Girls?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (0/EIm)

173
Fear.


Why are the protesterrorists being dispatched by Soros, etc?

Why is the MSM panicking?

Why is the establishment bloviating?

Why are government workers sobbing?

Why are 'The Usual Suspects' screaming about racism , sexism, and Hitler?


Fear.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (toH8T)

174 Lamont Hill on CNN denounces "mediocre Negroes" meeting with Trump.

*BLINK*

I don't even know what to say.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (9ASbL)

175 The Star Wars universe is like a crated animal that won't roam away from home. It promised to be anything and everything in 1977. What would that look like? There would have been a movie like Rogue One by 1989. By 1995 there would have been a Deadpool-Marvel analogue.

As RLM said:
"AT-AT! Yay! AT-ST! I KNOW WHAT THAT THING IS! so awesome!"

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (VdICR)

176
Saw a documentary on Netflix about Scotland Yard's fugitive apprehension unit. They didn't say it outright but they alluded strongly to the fact that since joining the EU, crime of all sorts is through the roof in Britain because of (quoting now) "open borders."

QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (mbhDw)

177 Hey, he made a phonecall and talked to that guy. And then there was the letter he wrote to someone once. He thought about it while golfing. That all counts dang it!!!!

/leftist
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

Any good lawyer would charge for thinking about your case.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (8hICw)

178 #152

That there was literally no possible way, since he'd tried and it didn't work.
=========

Well, no, he didn't try. The whole BS point of the Obamanauts was to fundamentally transform the United States of America into a global information and financial power. That meant getting rid of the smelly, dirty manufacturing sector and outsourcing such to the Third World, which would, in turn, be exempted from any international accords limiting air and water pollution standards.

That hasn't worked out too well.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (JBggj)

179 I'm removing the T's from all computers in the WH! Me so funny!

Posted by: FLOTUS
...........

We'd like you to get rid of the rats and flies, too.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (HgMAr)

180 Even if the UK leaves the EU - hard Brexit if you will - this will not necessarily mean independence. Europe is full of parallel institutions, organizations and conferences that can suffocate national sovereignty just as well and maybe even better, since they are far more obscure.

The problem is that the referendum was an extra-constitutional cop-out. The Brits wanted a radical change in policy without changing their party system accordingly. and thats just not how it works in a system where parliament is sovereign.

The UK needs pols who want independence and know what to do with it and not an old guard that basically just waits for the next chance to get rid of responsibilities again, while lawyerly conceding and working around a single point decided in a referendum.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (ocMvR)

181 Lamont Hill on CNN denounces "mediocre Negroes" meeting with Trump.

*BLINK*

I don't even know what to say.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (9ASbL)

What you say is any Negro that plays for the NY Jets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (sRFAL)

182 174 Lamont Hill on CNN denounces "mediocre Negroes" meeting with Trump.

*BLINK*

I don't even know what to say.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (9ASbL)


Well, Mr. Hill, what are the standards for mediocre and outstanding Negroes, and more importantly WHO, pray tell, gets to set those standards?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (mbhDw)

183 Too many shadows, whispering voices
faces on posters, too many choices


One of the great songs from the 80s. I really liked the Pet Shop Boys, but they didn't last long.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (39g3+)

184 178 Well, no, he didn't try. The whole BS point of the Obamanauts was to fundamentally transform the United States of America into a global information and financial power. That meant getting rid of the smelly, dirty manufacturing sector and outsourcing such to the Third World, which would, in turn, be exempted from any international accords limiting air and water pollution standards.

That hasn't worked out too well.
Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (JBggj)

===================

All while moaning that manufacturing was disappearing, because it really meant a loss of Union power.

It's plans within plans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (/prE6)

185 Europe's key exports are chocolate, Islam, general Joo-hate and sloth.

Actually, Germany (in particular) has some very strong industrial products.

The problem is that EU policies and German policies are gradually pushing these firms out. If you're BMW (which is still essentially a privately-held firm) and you're culturally tied to Germany but you can't hire anyone useful who's under 50 and you're paying three or four times US industrial rates for electricity and a whole bunch of other regulatory issues, what do you do?

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (TppKb)

186 I'm removing the T's from all computers in the WH! Me so funny!



Posted by: FLOTUS

===

Go for it.

Trump is ripping out and replacing all of your malware-ridden tech.

Get out.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (toH8T)

187 Individually, one by one, each European country can be interesting or admirable or exciting or fun or beautiful.

Collectively, as a group, the European nations are a terrifying a bleak Kafkaesque Soviet bureaucracy.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2017 03:48 PM (jBuUi)

188 They didn't say it outright but they alluded strongly to the fact that since joining the EU, crime of all sorts is through the roof in Britain because of (quoting now) "open borders."

Most of the street level crime is due to... well they call them "Eastern Europeans" or "Romanians" but what they mean is "Gypsies" but you cannot say that in England any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (39g3+)

189 Saw a documentary on Netflix about Scotland Yard's
fugitive apprehension unit. They didn't say it outright but they alluded
strongly to the fact that since joining the EU, crime of all sorts is
through the roof in Britain because of (quoting now) "open borders."



QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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That's in my list. Was surprised by the honest description of the situation.

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (8b+oT)

190 185 Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (TppKb)


Almost forgot, Europe's general economic success is a result of something I believe they called "The Marshall Plan."

Thank us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (mbhDw)

191 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2017 03:45 PM (0/EIm)

Pet Shop Boys https://tinyurl.com/6mhlbls

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (y3aQB)

192 185 Actually, Germany (in particular) has some very strong industrial products.

The problem is that EU policies and German policies are gradually pushing these firms out. If you're BMW (which is still essentially a privately-held firm) and you're culturally tied to Germany but you can't hire anyone useful who's under 50 and you're paying three or four times US industrial rates for electricity and a whole bunch of other regulatory issues, what do you do?
Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (TppKb)

=======================

"Suck it up and pay for more refugees peasant!"
-Angela Merkel, 2 years ago

"Oh..shiezen, how about a...uh...burka ban! Yeah, that'll placate you dummkopfs."
-Angela Merkel, the end of 2016

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (/prE6)

193 I saw 'Mediocre Negroes' open for 'Clean and Articulate' at the Agora Ballroom in '09.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (toH8T)

194 Current German Heer (land forces) motto:

To protect, help, moderate, and fight

Sounds like a motto jiggered together by politicians.

Motto from Wikipedia. So, could be Fake News.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (FtrY1)

195 Apropos of nothing, and I would hope I'm not the first person around here to say this, but...

Whenever I see the name Angela Merkel I think "Angel Merkin."

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (TOk1P)

196 Well, Mr. Hill, what are the standards for mediocre
and outstanding Negroes, and more importantly WHO, pray tell, gets to
set those standards?





Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Elite Negroes.

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (8b+oT)

197 What the fuck is wrong with Europeans? seriously - the EU is the worst of all combinations between sovereignty and unity. And, I'm sorry, but doesn't Europe want to sell to Briton? I mean, GB is not a small country, it is a big rich market for Europeans, ergo, having a mutual free trade agreement would be beneficial to both sides.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (UgF8H)

198 189 That's in my list. Was surprised by the honest description of the situation.
Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:49 PM (8b+oT)

I was certain they were going to edit the shit out of it. Then again, there were no Muzzies depicted. I'm sure all of them are honest and peaceful as the day is long.

*world's biggest sarc tag* /S

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (mbhDw)

199 Go for it.

Trump is ripping out and replacing all of your malware-ridden tech.

Get out.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 17, 2017 03:47 PM (toH8T)


"The children are starving. It's very sad. Very, very sad. They're not eating anything. Michelle Obama was starving the children. Kids in Haiti are eating better. But I'm gonna fix it. We've got yuge menus coming. Luxurious. Steaks. And gold plated chicken nuggets. It's gonna be tremendous!"

Posted by: President Donald Trump at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (4ErVI)

200 >>This morning CNN claimed to have a breaking news scoop that "GOP Aides"
said Republicans were "in the dark" about Trump's obamacare replacement.


Breaking news: "Trump has identified leakers within his team so they no longer have the information to give us"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

201 >>>Could very well mean war.


Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.

Posted by: The German Army at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (ppaKI)

202 195 Apropos of nothing, and I would hope I'm not the first person around here to say this, but...

Whenever I see the name Angela Merkel I think "Angel Merkin."
Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (TOk1P)


The merkin on an angel must be gossamer-like, nein?

In any case I always read Angela Merkel as Ethel Mertz or Steve Urkel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (mbhDw)

203 '86, I think it was. Murmurings over some the disputed islands or sea shelf as I recall.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:28 PM


Found a book on Google :
Strategic Relations Between the US and Turkey 1979-2000: Sleeping with a Tiger
By Ekavi Athanassopoulou

Google wants $43 for the eBook. From just a quick look, at a few pages, it was pretty complicated back then. More than just Greece vs Turkey. Lotta footnotes.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (ACM1V)

204 I want to respond to a willowed comment from the last thread:

411 They will win no converts by chaining trains...even the people who didn't vote for Trump but are not part of the violent activist group will be annoyed at having their commutes disrupted.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2017 03:26 PM (tOcW/)

============================

There's a solid reason the Republicans won so much at the presidential level in the 60s, 70s, and 80s (not always, but more than average).

Now, imagine that kind of luck combined with the Republicans much more increased power overall (especially at the state level) happening now compared to the same period.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (/prE6)

205 Well, Mr. Hill, what are the standards for mediocre and outstanding Negroes, and more importantly WHO, pray tell, gets to set those standards?

And why should the standard for mediocrity for blacks be any different than those for everyone else?

I mean, Barack Obama's a crap President, and the fact that he's black makes him no more or less crap as President. He probably would never have attained the office were he not black, but as President he's just a crap President and he's not more or less crappy for being black.

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (TppKb)

206 Lamont Hill on CNN denounces "mediocre Negroes" meeting with Trump.

*BLINK*

I don't even know what to say.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:46 PM (9ASbL)
................

I hesitate to comment until Richard Fowler weighs in.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (HgMAr)

207 202 In any case I always read Angela Merkel as Ethel Mertz or Steve Urkel.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (mbhDw)


. . . And isn't that really the story of Obama?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (mbhDw)

208 Nothing has changed, the culture is where things have to be fixed, not shuffling around the guys at the top. Until the culture, education, entertainment, and the worldview of the people changes, no amount of Republicans in office will make any difference other than the speed of the burn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:42 PM (39g3+)


Right. But the culture is starting to crumble around the edges a bit. The media has blown it's credibility. The temper tantrums of Hollywood film stars are being mocked and they didn't manage to win the election for Hill. People like Milo and Ben Shapiro are doing the grunt work of challenging group think at the universities. The networks and newspapers no longer have a lock on the news.

Again, this stuff is going to take time to reverse. Maybe a really long time. But it's not going unchallenged. Hell, we're here, aren't we?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (ZM2xo)

209 Honestly I've never seen anything like this. No barrier is too sacred to cross, no words too hostile, no fallacious accusation too dishonest to launch- all in the name of political subversives who just won't accept a democratic process unless their chosen candidate wins. Because anything less must be the product of fraud- right?

They don't realize they are really anarchists at heart.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:53 PM (9ASbL)

210
I remember when the EU was coming together...I was 8 years old. Damn, some of you people are old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:36 PM (/prE6)


Shit when the EU was created I was married and had two small kids at home.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 17, 2017 03:53 PM (lKyWE)

211 If we were to leave the EU, where would you spend your tourist dollars?

WHERE?!?

Wait... don't answer that. Just forget we asked. Please. We beg of you!

Posted by: Greece at January 17, 2017 03:53 PM (8b+oT)

212 201 >>>Could very well mean war.

Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.
Posted by: The German Army at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (ppaKI)


Used post-war European rifles for say. Never fired, dropped once. A history-making offer!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (mbhDw)

213 "Mediocre negroes", in other words,they have the wrong political views.

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (r/0kC)

214 Lamont Hill on CNN denounces "mediocre Negroes" meeting with Trump.

In his head, he said a different word, but he knew he couldn't use it on camera. You know I'm right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (39g3+)

215 Ob+mao Greatest Przident Evah!

Posted by: Gitmo Alumni at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (OLkCE)

216 201 >>>Could very well mean war.

Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.
Posted by: The German Army at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (ppaKI)

=====================

"Don't forget our siestas."
-Spain

"Or the fact that we pretty much just don't work."
-Italy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (/prE6)

217 Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:53 PM (9ASbL)

NOT REALLY! just arrested Children who think everyone who thinks differently than them is a Big DOODYHEAD!

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (y3aQB)

218 I saw 'Mediocre Negroes' open for 'Clean and Articulate' at the Agora Ballroom in '09.

As I noted in an earlier thread I saw them open for the Average White Band at the Cow Palace in '75.

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (TppKb)

219 >>They will win no converts by chaining trains...even the people who
didn't vote for Trump but are not part of the violent activist group
will be annoyed at having their commutes disrupted.


You don;t do that to win converts, you do that to create chaos.

DC is always being hobble by some sh#tty protest group. One time when I was living in the area some anti-IMF protesters (IIRC) put tires in the missle of the George Washington parkways and set them on fire. Completely hosed the already miserable morning commute.
They don;t care.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (NOIQH)

220 so 50 cock sucker left wing commie congresspricks are boycotting out rebirth this Friday. LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (sRFAL)

221 You're wearing my brexit, darling.

Posted by: Julian Assange at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (JO9+V)

222 Approximately half the inlets and hidden beaches in Cornwall are called "Smugglers' Cove" because for centuries, back when England and France were frequently at war, the only way to import stuff into England from Europe was by smuggling it in.

So -- who needs treaties? Just reactivate all the Smugglers' Coves and we're good to go.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (jBuUi)

223 I just want Marc Lamont-Hill to tell Jim Brown or Ray Lewis that the are "mediocre negros." He can learn to apologize when he's done spitting teeth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (39g3+)

224 Current German Heer (land forces) motto:

To protect, help, moderate, and fight



Moderate? Are they going to run debates?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (493sH)

225 Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.
Posted by: The German Army at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (ppaKI)


We'll call a union meeting and take a vote and get back to you.

Posted by: Dutch Army at January 17, 2017 03:56 PM (TppKb)

226 Gloria Allred ? The woman is 75 years old. Great for her age ... but sadly, now a Zero.

Not her fault. Father Time is undefeated. But she held onto One status much longer than most.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2017 03:56 PM (qcr5D)

227 219
You don;t do that to win converts, you do that to create chaos.

DC is always being hobble by some sh#tty protest group. One time when I was living in the area some anti-IMF protesters (IIRC) put tires in the missle of the George Washington parkways and set them on fire. Completely hosed the already miserable morning commute.
They don;t care.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (NOIQH)

====================

Remember how the Weather Underground lead to the dominance of Presidents Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (/prE6)

228 The EU is just pissed that one leg of their three-legged prop is going away. No more looting the UK to allow the countries of southern Europe to maintain their Socialist facades.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (ppaKI)

229 216 201 >>>Could very well mean war.

Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.
Posted by: The German Army at January 17, 2017 03:51 PM (ppaKI)

=====================

"Don't forget our siestas."
-Spain

"Or the fact that we pretty much just don't work."
-Italy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (/prE6)

"We'll get right on that as soon as we get right off your wife."

- France

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (7HtZB)

230 So, Marc Lamont Hill is going after Steve Harvey and MLK III?

*Makes all of the popcorn*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (kTF2Z)

231 212.Used post-war European rifles for say. Never fired, dropped once. A history-making offer!

I've got one, a 1926 British Enfield 303...a fun gun to shot.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (ONH2e)

232 213 "Mediocre negroes", in other words,they have the wrong political views.
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 03:54 PM (r/0kC)

Authentic black is not about pigmentation. Hence the brutal attacks on Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Herman Cain, etc. etc. etc.

I knew the civil rights movement had jumped the shark, or became the shark, when the Black Panthers attacked Jackie Robinson who had condemned and criticized them. That was horrible to witness and not soon after he died at the age of 50.

John Lewis is nothing and has done nothing that is even remotely in the same universe as Jack Robinson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (mbhDw)

233 "So -- who needs treaties? Just reactivate all the Smugglers' Coves and we're good to go."

Ross Poldark agrees.

Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (JSovD)

234 So what you're saying is: May may not?

Here's what I don't get, if Merkel thinks that taking in refugees are such a good thing, shouldn't she be glad Britain is not taking more of Diversity Pie?

What exactly is the interest in EU-Brit tariffs? Is the EU afraid of a British trade deficit? That somehow the EU has positioned themselves that they cannot compete with the UK?

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (2mC6G)

235 I remember when the EU was coming together...
-----
I told my friend who was saying it would kick ass that it was actually a house of cards. When Germany, Spain and Greece are pulling the same plow, Greece and Spain ain't gonna do jack shit.

Posted by: Dang at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (8b+oT)

236 The rumored Trump anbassador to the UK is out today with a statement congratulating the PM on her remarks and hoping the US/UK bilateral trade agreement will be in place and ready to go very shortly.

Posted by: MTF at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (X4ZNp)

237 219
You don;t do that to win converts, you do that to create chaos.

DC is always being hobble by some sh#tty protest group. One time when I was living in the area some anti-IMF protesters (IIRC) put tires in the missle of the George Washington parkways and set them on fire. Completely hosed the already miserable morning commute.
They don;t care.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (NOIQH)

=====================

Here's the thing about all of this: It's counterproductive for electoral victories, and the only way that it could actually lead to any change in the direction that the terrorists want is if a sizeable portion of the population agrees with them enough to support the nascent fight, and join in.

It didn't work when they originally tried at the end of the 60s and into the 70s, and I still don't think that it'll happen now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (/prE6)

238 224 Moderate? Are they going to run debates?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 17, 2017 03:55 PM (493sH)

I have a pre-owned Schmeisser gavel for sale, cheap.

Now to feed die katzen! Ein moment, bitte. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (mbhDw)

239 Trump went out of his way to court African American support. More so then his predecessors. His policies are meant to benefit industries that employ a fair amount of African Americans. The education policies he want to pursue will largely benefit the in we cities and loosen the grip of people destroying the future of minority children.

Which can mean only one thing to Democrats. They must make him into the antichrist before he aptly displays they've been used like a bunch of dupes for their votes and are worse off because of it.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (9ASbL)

240 >>>Could very well mean war.
======

"Could mean war..."

I smile when I read that phrase. Ira Gershwin used that in the Gershwins' pacifist comedy musical "Strike Up The Band". Really, like we'd go to war with Switzerland over the "fake news" meme with the Swiss mislabeling US-bound Grade B milk with Grade A labels.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (JBggj)

241 229
"We'll get right on that as soon as we get right off your wife."

- France
Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (7HtZB)

====================

That's the only way you could get her, smelly France, by pinning her down and forcing her to take it.

France, you so rapey.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (/prE6)

242 You know what you never heard out of Jackie Robinson's mouth?

Whining. He was too busy winning and being excellent, smearing he faces of his detractors and attackers with his greatness.

John Lewis has presided over the worst downturn in US history for blacks. He can think whatever he wants about the state of Donald Trump as president and I do not care but Trump hit a home run about crime and economics in his district.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

243 Apropos of nothing, and I would hope I'm not the first person around here to say this, but...

Whenever I see the name Angela Merkel I think "Angel Merkin."
Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:50 PM (TOk1P)


The merkin on an angel must be gossamer-like, nein?

In any case I always read Angela Merkel as Ethel Mertz or Steve Urkel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:52 PM (mbhDw)



That's why it disappoints me so. Must be like kissing the sweetest cotton candy...

..oh. No. Not Angel Merkin. Gladys Kravitz.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (TOk1P)

244 Silly rubes. You can't have a war until we define and allow a war.

Posted by: Brussels at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (8b+oT)

245 Now to feed die katzen! Ein moment, bitte. . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 03:59 PM (mbhDw)

In my HS German class, one of my classmates like to say "Katze Eier" which kinda sounds like cat eye, but really means "cat eggs"

Yes, it made no sense, but it was what passed for humor in that class.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 04:00 PM (8hICw)

246
I hesitate to comment until Richard Fowler weighs in.
Posted by: wth


He sort of looks like a 21st century Urkel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:00 PM (IqV8l)

247 Teresa May? Her brother was in a kick-ass band.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:00 PM (JO9+V)

248 France, you so rapey.

"I had plenty of rapes, too many to count."
-Gerard Depardieu

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:00 PM (39g3+)

249 230 So, Marc Lamont Hill is going after Steve Harvey and MLK III?

*Makes all of the popcorn*
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 17, 2017 03:57 PM (kTF2Z)

======================

"You know who has a larger and more dedicated fan base than me? Steve Harvey. Let's go after him, veiled call him a house negro, and I'm sure I'll win that battle. I'm super smart."
-Marc Lamont Hill

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:00 PM (/prE6)

250 Ross Poldark agrees.

==================

I'm in!

Posted by: The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (JBggj)

251 The UK kinda has a history bucking "Continental Systems"...
But zis time we have zee tunnel under zee Channel!

Posted by: zombie napoleon at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (lJXY3)

252 As several have noted, the EU needs GB far more than the opposite. We'll see more and more seriously unhinged comments over the next few months by various EU types...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (C9pBZ)

253
Silly rubes. You can't have a war until we define and allow a war.
Posted by: Brussels


Do they have to file an environmental impact statement?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (IqV8l)

254 >>>"Mediocre negroes",

Meaty okre is the best okre.

Posted by: wooga at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (53Fab)

255 Teresa May? Her brother was in a kick-ass band./i]

Her brother is great on Grand Tour, too!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (39g3+)

256 So -- who needs treaties? Just reactivate all the Smugglers' Coves and we're good to go.

Uh...the French had a shit navy, the Brits beat Boney with their blockade of 'far storm-beaten ships', the Union could have starved the South out by blockade and taking the Mississippi without the 'Forward to Richmond' crap, and all that was long before satellites, surveillance aircraft with global range, drones with half-a-day loiter time and Hellfires, CVs full of flaming-death dispensers, etc.

Posted by: Dutch Army at January 17, 2017 04:02 PM (TppKb)

257 Any word from Aleppo? Are they dropping out of the EU?

Pretty sure I have a kick ass bong made there.

Posted by: Gary Johnson at January 17, 2017 04:02 PM (8b+oT)

258 @Project_Veritas 1h

Apparently the folks at #DisruptJ20 think that throat punching is a legitimate form of protest. #Inauguration #Veritasiseverywhere

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (V3IFq)

259 LMFAO.

Which one of you turned SCOAMF in a novel?


http://tinyurl.com/jrcnxnf

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (2x9LM)

260 Thats DOCTOR Marc Lamont Hill!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (IqV8l)

261 What is the EU?


Is that still around?

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (qUNWi)

262 233 "So -- who needs treaties? Just reactivate all the Smugglers' Coves and we're good to go."

Ross Poldark agrees.
Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2017 03:58 PM (JSovD)


Poldark? The lady in Warsaw with the lightbulb died?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (mbhDw)

263 260 Thats DOCTOR Marc Lamont Hill!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:03 PM (IqV8l)

Which? Doctor?

As Momma Sefton used to say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (mbhDw)

264 >>Could very well mean war.


>>Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.

And not during August because Europe is closed.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (/tuJf)

265 You have to check out the wisp of a twat explaining when to 'throatpunch' people.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (V3IFq)

266 A bit off topic, but we're well past 100 comments. At a chamber luncheon today I was sitting next to a woman who told me about her daughter who is a pre-law student at Stanford. She winced a bit as she told me her daughter is "very liberal." Then she said that the daughter had plans to serve as a White House intern this summer, but now wasn't sure what to do.

I replied that if she went ahead with the internship, she would have to be as a mole. Everyone at the table LOLed.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (ro5Th)

267 I had a girlfriend in college whose mom made the best okra and Chitlins on the planet. I hate you. My mouth is drooling just thinking about it.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (9ASbL)

268 "So -- who needs treaties? Just reactivate all the Smugglers' Coves and we're good to go."

Ross Poldark agrees.

And Bert Large too probably.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (lJXY3)

269 Do they have to file an environmental impact statement?

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Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (IqV8l)



Holy shit. That's funny cause it's true. hah

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (qUNWi)

270 CVs full of flaming-death dispensers, etc.

Posted by: Dutch Army at January 17, 2017 04:02 PM (TppKb)



Go on . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - I see you tree rats at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (mf5HN)

271 Could very well mean war.


>>Only if it's between the hours of 8-5.

And not during August because Europe is closed.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (/tuJf)


Mousse out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Polly Voo Fronncey at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (TOk1P)

272 Teresa May also has an American 2nd cousin (nephew?) who was a kick-ass OL and part of the world-famous 'Hogs" of Redskins fame.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (JO9+V)

273 Saw Diversity Pie open for Angel Merkin at Winterland in 1974. Took waay too much acid.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 04:06 PM (HgMAr)

274 "And Bert Large too probably."

Doc Martin might have a problem with it though.

Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2017 04:06 PM (JSovD)

275 >>Here's the thing about all of this: It's counterproductive for electoral
victories, and the only way that it could actually lead to any change
in the direction that the terrorists want is if a sizeable portion of
the population agrees with them enough to support the nascent fight, and
join in.


First, they're kids having a temper tantrum and punishing the people who upset them by voting Trump. J20 is not about winning hearts and minds, this is jr. Weathermen stuff.

Second, they've always had MSM cover, and now a lot of Democrat cover, too, so this protects them from most of the scrutiny. Just look at how the Creamer riots/attacks were characterized: "TRUMP is riling up the people and causing violence at his rallies." Same goes for the violent protests at about Milo - it's *his* fault, and he's the one punished with high security fees and speech cancellations.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

276 Lamont? What did that big dummy do now?

Posted by: Fred Sanford, Proprietor at January 17, 2017 04:07 PM (JO9+V)

277 Teresa May also has an American 2nd cousin (nephew?) who was a kick-ass OL and part of the world-famous 'Hogs" of Redskins fame.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (JO9+V)


And Lee May was one fine right handed hitter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:07 PM (sRFAL)

278 Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic

Sounds like the worst threat there is to most of the EU. "Deregulated"? "Tax heaven?" [sic] What's not to like?

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 17, 2017 04:08 PM (9eOWg)

279 Willy Mays is dead?!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:08 PM (ro5Th)

280 Doc Martin might have a problem with it though.
Wave something bloody at him, and he'll faint or run away. So no problem about him getting P.C. Penhale to arrest anyone!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2017 04:09 PM (lJXY3)

281 Hard TEXIT.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2017 04:09 PM (WDy4l)

282 The UK kinda has a history bucking "Continental Systems"...

Posted by: zombie napoleon at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (lJXY3)
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And, face it, the map also shows it has a history of getting its butt kicked by France. The Brits held Calais for a good while, but could never make it much further.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2017 04:09 PM (2mC6G)

283 267 I had a girlfriend in college whose mom made the best okra and Chitlins on the planet. I hate you. My mouth is drooling just thinking about it.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:04 PM (9ASbL)

Only food I ever saw Guy Fieri almost spit out. I would have to agree with him. But like you, a lot of people like them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth proud son of a Marine at January 17, 2017 04:09 PM (1me8P)

284 255 Teresa May? Her brother was in a kick-ass band./i]

Her brother is great on Grand Tour, too!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:01 PM (39g3+)


Her dad was great as the voice of The Robot on "Lost In Space."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 04:10 PM (mbhDw)

285 275 First, they're kids having a temper tantrum and punishing the people who upset them by voting Trump. J20 is not about winning hearts and minds, this is jr. Weathermen stuff.

Second, they've always had MSM cover, and now a lot of Democrat cover, too, so this protects them from most of the scrutiny. Just look at how the Creamer riots/attacks were characterized: "TRUMP is riling up the people and causing violence at his rallies." Same goes for the violent protests at about Milo - it's *his* fault, and he's the one punished with high security fees and speech cancellations.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

=======================

Oh, I know that. And the Weather Underground Sr. had some MSM cover too.

It's going to be much harder to control the narrative when they're threatening (and, God forbid, actually causing) physical harm to people.

When a #BLM supporting madman shot several police officers in Dallas, were Democrats really loud and vocal in condemnation? Or were they using more cautious terms? Which reaction leads to winning elections on a national scale in America?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:10 PM (/prE6)

286 Diversity Pie

Thought that was an interracial college-chick porn flick.

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 04:10 PM (TppKb)

287 The History Channel is showing Nazi Jesus tonight which I found to be very interesting. The discerning eye for detail will note certain similarities between Hitler's approach and the approach off our contemporary Furthering. It also has one of my favorite pieces of Nazi propaganda, but it goes by very quickly so don't blink. A stained glass window featuring Jesus is broken by rocks being thrown through it and as the glass shatters, a portrait of Hitler is revealed through the broken glass. Hey, I said it was good, not subtle. So anyone interested in Hitler's war on Christianity should watch this.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:10 PM (9YjDP)

288 O/T
I see Maxine "Stupid" Waters has called for the impeachment of Trump because the Russians got him elected or something.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (le7jz)

289 Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins
Silently closing her bedroom door
Leaving the note that she hoped would say more
She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her handkerchief
Quietly turning the backdoor key
Stepping outside she is free

We gave her most of our lives
Sacrificed most of our lives
We gave her everything money could buy.

Posted by: Johan, Pablo, Gerhard and Ringo at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (DVW2r)

290 Teresa May Vs Elly May

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (Mxs5H)

291 Chitlins are the second worst thing I ever ate in my life.

Cod liver oil is the first.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (ZM2xo)

292 Sounds like the worst threat there is to most of the EU. "Deregulated"? "Tax heaven?" [sic] What's not to like?

The ultimate inversion - the UK becomes Hong Kong.

Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (TppKb)

293 Willy Mays is dead?!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:08 PM (ro5Th)


Good. I hated that movie.

And with that, I'll see you in the casino.

Posted by: Willie "Teh Say Hey Kid" Mays at January 17, 2017 04:12 PM (TOk1P)

294 Chitlins are the second worst thing I ever ate in my life.

Cod liver oil is the first.


I'm waiting.

Posted by: Durian at January 17, 2017 04:12 PM (TppKb)

295 Brexit Status: Hard

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2017 04:12 PM (oVJmc)

296 Threatening to turn the UK into a deregulated tax heaven will not
only hurt British people--it is a counterproductive negotiating tactic

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Turning the UK into a deregulated tax haven would turn the UK into a financial colossus.

Just imagine an England where curbside vendors, without harassment, can sell their products with weights and measures listed in both imperial and metric units.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (JBggj)

297 Say what?

Posted by: Ocre Media at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (bc2Lc)

298 But zis time we have zee tunnel under zee Channel!

Yeah, ask the Persians about how well invading a nation through a narrow opening works out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (39g3+)

299 I see Maxine "Stupid" Waters has called for the impeachment of Trump because the Russians got him elected or something.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (le7jz)
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...and that he developed campaign slogans that would not flatter his opponent: "Crooked Hillary", saying she was "low energy" or playing up that she was ill. All those are (Waters-)impeachable.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (2mC6G)

300 Second, they've always had MSM cover, and now a lot of Democrat cover, too, so this protects them from most of the scrutiny. Just look at how the Creamer riots/attacks were characterized: "TRUMP is riling up the people and causing violence at his rallies.



How many thousands of bikers for Trump will be in DC?
Go ahead. Start some shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (WDy4l)

301 292 Sounds like the worst threat there is to most of the EU. "Deregulated"? "Tax heaven?" [sic] What's not to like?

The ultimate inversion - the UK becomes Hong Kong.
Posted by: JEM at January 17, 2017 04:11 PM (TppKb)

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It'll never happen. They'll probably never dismantle or redefine their welfare state enough to reach that.

But that's the thing: They don't need to. They just need to be geographically close and a markedly better option from which to do business. French firms can only go so long losing money and buckling under regulation before they chuck off their patriotism hats and move across the Channel just to survive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (/prE6)

302 So all my Kroners and DMs will be good again?

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 17, 2017 04:14 PM (QM5S2)

303 Jeezuz! Keep it down with the war talk, I'm fekkin' hung over!

Posted by: Ireland at January 17, 2017 04:14 PM (7HtZB)

304 I see the anarchist want to chain themselves to the Metro in order to shutdown transportation for the inauguration. Can't we just instruct the drivers to keep going and then drag their bloodied carcasses to the next station to discourage others?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:14 PM (9ASbL)

305 Trickle-down, on-your-own economics and Christian-righters promoting Inequality!

Posted by: Mindless Leftist Sloganeering, Inc. at January 17, 2017 04:14 PM (QtQaN)

306 Theresa May, but George Will

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (oVJmc)

307 Gentlemen, there is no fighting here. This is the War Room!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (ro5Th)

308 Oh, FFS, Gloria Allred is suing Trump with some other "victim" again.

I freakin' haaaate these people and their tired tactics.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 03:31 PM (NOIQH)

Live stream.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s98vEkSJd4Y

Posted by: Off the reservation at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (uqnYW)

309 265 You have to check out the wisp of a twat explaining when to 'throatpunch' people.

I'm sure the back of his throat has been punched many times.

Posted by: wooga at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (53Fab)

310 Chitlins are the second worst thing I ever ate in my life.









Scrapple....
Tried sushi once, might have been even worse.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (ACM1V)

311 298 But zis time we have zee tunnel under zee Channel!

Yeah, ask the Persians about how well invading a nation through a narrow opening works out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:13 PM (39g3+)


"Tell me about it!"

- - Tubby Riefenstahl's gastroentorologist

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 04:16 PM (mbhDw)

312 Fredo letting more felons out of prison.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:16 PM (sRFAL)

313 Maggie May?

Posted by: Almost Zombie Rod Stewart at January 17, 2017 04:17 PM (53Fab)

314 Let me get this straight: Bradle - er, Chelsea Manning walks, but WikiLeaks is one of the biggest threats to American democracy?

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 04:17 PM (y3aQB)

315 "Chitlins are the second worst thing I ever ate in my life. "

Ory I would agree. I will only say you have. It had them prepared the right way to make them less greasy and get rid of the underlying funky flavors.

Oh yeah. And it's pig. So there's that.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:17 PM (9ASbL)

316 312 Fredo letting more felons out of prison.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:16 PM (sRFAL)


Their compatriots in the West Wing are so lonely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 17, 2017 04:17 PM (mbhDw)

317 Obama just commuted 200 sentences. The next two days should be interesting and infuriating, but mostly infuriating.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 17, 2017 04:17 PM (kTF2Z)

318 OT: "ACE OF SPADES" on the 3-String Shovel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tAEAyHgCec

Posted by: irright at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (pMGkg)

319 Second, they've always had MSM cover, and now a lot of Democrat cover, too, so this protects them from most of the scrutiny. Just look at how the Creamer riots/attacks were characterized: "TRUMP is riling up the people and causing violence at his rallies." Same goes for the violent protests at about Milo - it's *his* fault, and he's the one punished with high security fees and speech cancellations.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

Yep. But this is DC on Inauguration Day not UC Davis. Unlike the "security" on campuses, which does nothing when Milo is nearly smacked onstage and suffers no consequences for it, there will be consequences for the security people if these losers manage to disrupt things.

O'Keefe has been forwarding this info to the authorities - hopefully they'll keep a close eye on the trains and these nasty snots won't have time to come up with Plan B.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (ZM2xo)

320 OT Inauguration-Protesters in cities paid $2, 500 to protest and $50.00 per day. Follow the money. Lock the violent ones up and kick Soros OUT!!

http://tinyurl.com/j522glm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (tOcW/)

321 Fredo letting more felons out of prison.

Too late. Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (oVJmc)

322
Jeezuz! Keep it down with the war talk, I'm fekkin' hung over!
Posted by: Ireland


I remember Ireland was supposed to be some kind of tax miracle attracting businesses. What ever happened to that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (IqV8l)

323 But that's the thing: They don't need to. They just need to be geographically close and a markedly better option from which to do business. French firms can only go so long losing money and buckling under regulation before they chuck off their patriotism hats and move across the Channel just to survive.

Yeah, they just have to suck less than the EU, which isn't exactly a challenge. Plus, while they don't exactly have the navy any longer, Britannia is still a leader in shipping. Not so much Spain.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (39g3+)

324 So bye-bye, Miss Diversity Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good old mediocre negros were drinking whiskey 'n rye
Singing: "This'll be the day that I die"
This'll be the day that I die

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (HgMAr)

325 Yeah, ask the Persians about how well invading a nation through a narrow opening works out.
But zee Anglais will be too busy fighting zee balloons!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hwa7ozb

Posted by: zombie napoleon at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (lJXY3)

326 Wait, I need to update my scorecard, because I thought Hannity was this giant hypocrite for now embracing Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (y3aQB)

327 Maxine "Stupid" Waters

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You shouldn't call Congesswoman Waters stupid. She's also ugly. Damn ugly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (9YjDP)

328 Can we put a bounty on protesters?

Say $3k if you bag one and extras for battered condition?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (9ASbL)

329 Obama just commuted 200 sentences. The next two days should be interesting and infuriating, but mostly infuriating.
===========================

Barry's been upstaged by Trump so often since the election, that I think it's a safe bet that the 48 hours preceding the inauguration will be something to behold.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (JBggj)

330

Oh my! there is a thing called 'liver pudding'.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM (ACM1V)

331 Breaking - TFG commuting sentence of PFC Manning

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (7HtZB)

332 >>So all my Kroners and DMs will be good again?

Define good.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

333 @BNONews 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (V3IFq)

334 323 Yeah, they just have to suck less than the EU, which isn't exactly a challenge. Plus, while they don't exactly have the navy any longer, Britannia is still a leader in shipping. Not so much Spain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (39g3+)

======================

Imagine what the world would be like if nations took the idea "Suck less than our Neighbors" and ran with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (/prE6)

335 Teresa said she didn't but I know she do!

Posted by: Charles Berry, guitar maestro at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (JO9+V)

336 The cock sucker just commuted manning sentence..fuck him and all his commie bastards conrades...disgusting.

I hate that fuck more than ever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (sRFAL)

337 And the dickhead commuted Chelsea fucking Manning too.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (kTF2Z)

338 Tried sushi once, might have been even worse.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 04:15 PM (ACM1V)

I've had bland sushi before. Some of it gets too fancy for its own good, but good sushi is one of life's greatest pleasures.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (TOk1P)

339 >>Breaking - TFG commuting sentence of PFC Manning

Unfucking real. In a number of ways.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (/tuJf)

340 333 @BNONews 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (V3IFq)

====================

Upside? Can we stop paying for his transition now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (/prE6)

341 Ben Stein is just now figuring out Obama was a left winger.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (IqV8l)

342 If you have to bus people in and pay protesters, you really don't have any kind of movement at all. If we had a remotely professional, objective new media, everyone would know about this, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (39g3+)

343 336 To the surprise if no one.

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (r/0kC)

344 BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes

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The hell?! Who's next, nidal malik hasan?

Posted by: auscolpyr at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (suO/a)

345 Moral coward for doing this as he exits also..just like fucking Israel. Fuck all left wingers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (sRFAL)

346 But zee Anglais will be too busy fighting zee balloons!>>>

99 Luft balloons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PsDqiBORQ

Posted by: Nena at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (Mxs5H)

347 Mousse out front shoulda told ya.
Posted by: Polly Voo Fronncey at January 17, 2017 04:05 PM (TOk1P)


i love you despite the coffee on my keyboard.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (hKDRi)

348 https://tinyurl.com/gmub7gh


Peter Schweizer: Clinton Global Initiative Folded Because They Can No Longer Sell Access to Political Power






Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (y3aQB)

349 But I thought WikiLeaks was Russia and da Haxors 11 eleventy11 !

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (r/0kC)

350


MANNING IS OUT THEN POLLARD IS OUT

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (EQZy6)

351 #322

I remember Ireland was supposed to be some kind of tax miracle attracting businesses. What ever happened to that?
=======

After about 350+ plebiscites, the Elites finally browbeat the Irish peasants into submission and then voted to join the EU.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (JBggj)

352 I've had bland sushi before. Some of it gets too fancy for its own good, but good sushi is one of life's greatest pleasures.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM


Maybe it was the dippin sauce I didn't like.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 04:22 PM (ACM1V)

353 Still waiting for JEF to pardon Nidal Hassan. You KNOW he's going to...

Posted by: Hikaru at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (WDCYi)

354 The appropriately named Gloria Allred is suing Trump

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (9YjDP)

355
THIS IS DISGUSTING

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (EQZy6)

356 Boy he's going to fuck the entire country on his way out the door. What a lowlife piece of shit.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (9ASbL)

357 Peyton Manning is dead?!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (ro5Th)

358 342 If you have to bus people in and pay protesters, you really don't have any kind of movement at all. If we had a remotely professional, objective new media, everyone would know about this, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:21 PM (39g3+)

=====================

"We will ignite the passions of the people!"
-Unrelated quote from the June Rebellion in 1832, roughly translated from the original French

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (/prE6)

359 1 Ben Stein is just now figuring out Obama was a left winger.

he was a NeverTrump TARD

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (y3aQB)

360
TRAITOR

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (EQZy6)

361 --
Can we put a bounty on protesters?



Say $3k if you bag one and extras for battered condition?



Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:19 PM
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Mmmmm... battered.

Posted by: Homer S. at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (pMGkg)

362 My guess for next pardon? Assata Shakur, or whatever her name is - the Black radical cop killer hiding out in Cuba.

Posted by: josephistan at January 17, 2017 04:23 PM (7HtZB)

363 I expect a nood...any...moment...now...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:24 PM (/prE6)

364 So much for good order and discipline

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:24 PM (sRFAL)

365 @BNONews 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (V3IFq)


Hold on... is he going in alphabetical order?

Posted by: Mumia and Manson at January 17, 2017 04:24 PM (TOk1P)

366 @BNONews 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:20 PM (V3IFq)


Hold on... is he going in alphabetical order?

Posted by: Mumia and Manson at January 17, 2017 04:24 PM (TOk1P)


Egad, I hope not.

Posted by: Malvo at January 17, 2017 04:24 PM (TOk1P)

367 Did he commute Bradley or Chelsea?

Posted by: wooga at January 17, 2017 04:25 PM (53Fab)

368 PFC Manning
Penis Feigning C#nt Manning?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2017 04:25 PM (lJXY3)

369 Manning sentence commuted. Wow.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at January 17, 2017 04:25 PM (ul9CR)

370 BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes

--

TFG still hasn't run out of FU's to America, I see.

Hillary awaits her pardon with bated (and baited) breath

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:25 PM (Om16U)

371 TREASON

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:25 PM (EQZy6)

372 Well I'm back. Looks like the Euros finally ran out of "other people's money".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (mpXpK)

373
O'Keefe has been forwarding this info to the authorities - hopefully they'll keep a close eye on the trains and these nasty snots won't have time to come up with Plan B.

Posted by: Donna and V.


It's hilarious they think with a few chains they've smuggled in they can stop vehicles designed to haul 100k's of lbs routinely.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (V3IFq)

374 Leonard Peltier watch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (9YjDP)

375 Why doesn't he just do a mass pardon of every felon currently in prison?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (Om16U)

376 "Maybe it was the dippin sauce I didn't like."

Sushi is raw fish, with some rice molded on top. Sashimi is just the raw fish without rice. Both are dipped in soy sauce and Japanese horseradish (wasabi), which is optional. Wasabi is fairly sharp.

BTW, good sushi is delicious. Bad sushi (like almost any food) is not. Don't judge an entire food category based on one bad example or you will soon find there is nothing you find acceptable and you will starve to a horrible death.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (ro5Th)

377 Not refreshing for a nood Chelsea Manning

Posted by: wooga at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (53Fab)

378 Yesterday: "Wikileaks is a Russian operation set on destabilizing American democracy!!!"

Today: "The guy who gave Wikileaks all sorts of military documents to Wikileaks to destabilize America under Bush totes deserves to be freed!!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (NOIQH)

379

MANNING IS OUT THIS MAY

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (EQZy6)

380 You go Barry.

Posted by: Bob Bergdahl's man bun at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (HgMAr)

381 Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (Om16U)

11:00 on Friday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (tOcW/)

382 375 Why doesn't he just do a mass pardon of every felon currently in prison?
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:26 PM (Om16U)

======================

Is it related to the same reason the McAuffle (or however you spell his name) couldn't commute all the felons in VA at once? He had to sign a bunch of orders because a blanket pardon was unconstitutional, at least in Virginia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:28 PM (/prE6)

383 What ever happened to that?"

A 48 percent increase in government spending in 2 years plus over priced real estate will cure any growth...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at January 17, 2017 04:28 PM (C9pBZ)

384 Bradley (Chelsea) Manning


Now, under the terms of Mr. Obama's commutation announced by the White House on Tuesday, Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year, rather than in 2045.

Posted by: Robby Mook at January 17, 2017 04:28 PM (e8kgV)

385 I said, "Fugu me!"

Posted by: homer simpson at January 17, 2017 04:28 PM (lJXY3)

386
MANNING IS OUT THIS MAY
Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:27 PM (EQZy6)


And be starring in tranny porn by June

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 17, 2017 04:29 PM (lKyWE)

387 They guy who really put WikiLeaks on the map gets commutation by the most transparent administration in history

Posted by: Robby Mook at January 17, 2017 04:29 PM (e8kgV)

388 President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks

Now that we've established that sending stuff to WikiLeaks is A-OK, I don't want to hear word one about Russia.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 04:29 PM (3J/LN)

389 365 BREAKING: President Obama grants commutation of sentence for Chelsea Manning, who sent classified material to WikiLeaks - NYTimes.

I guess that's the punch line to the big joke about the Dems being totes all about National Security...

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (xceq/)

390 BTW, good sushi is delicious. Bad sushi (like almost any food) is not.

Its a matter of personal taste. I've had "good" sushi and it was awful. Some people like it, others don't. But if you cook it up, its not bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (39g3+)

391 Manning AND the State dept. agreement to share intel with Cuba.

What's next...because there will be more.

Oh, wait, forgot that he put freakin' Ben Rhodes on the board of the National Holocaust Memorial. Rhodes who may well be credited with giving Iran the nukes they use to attack Israel. Grrrrr!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (NOIQH)

392

THEN release Jonathan Pollard

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (EQZy6)

393 Say $3k if you bag one and extras for battered condition?

They're lower in calories grilled.

Posted by: Durian at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (TppKb)

394 So he commutes the sentence of a proven traitor? Of all people?

Got it. One by one he's removing what little doubt was left that Obama is truly anti American at heart.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (9ASbL)

395
Jeezuz! Keep it down with the war talk, I'm fekkin' hung over!
Posted by: Ireland

I remember Ireland was supposed to be some kind of tax miracle attracting businesses. What ever happened to that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:18 PM (IqV8l)






Compared to the onerous corporate taxes in the US? Yep. But remember that U2 pissed off all their fellow Micks by incorporating their music business in the Netherlands because Ireland's corporate tax rates/policies were STILL too high.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (XWkhW)

396 Why does that little fag transexual get off for treason?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (sRFAL)

397 Bradley (Chelsea) Manning


Now, under the terms of Mr. Obama's commutation announced by the White House on Tuesday, Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year, rather than in 2045.

-
Coming soon: a Hollywood movie. Chelsea Manning is Coming Out! starring Samantha B.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (9YjDP)

398 I had sushi chitlins.


I puked.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (qUNWi)

399 I like sushi, but the rice is a no no for the diet

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (Om16U)

400 BTW, good sushi is delicious. Bad sushi (like almost any food) is not. Don't judge an entire food category based on one bad example or you will soon find there is nothing you find acceptable and you will starve to a horrible death.
Posted by: Ruthless



Word.

I used to call it bait.
Until I had very, very good sushi & sashimi.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (S3oyF)

401 I fully expected him to pardon Manning.

It ought to remind leftists that once upon a time, they thought Wikileaks was great.

But that's when Assange was hurting America. He made the mistake of hurting Dems.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (ZM2xo)

402 No nood yet!!!

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (qUNWi)

403 Now that we've established that sending stuff to WikiLeaks is A-OK, I don't want to hear word one about Russia.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 17, 2017 04:29 PM (3J/LN)

THIS, x1000

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (ul9CR)

404 Why does that little fag transexual get off for treason?

Answered your own question, didn't you?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (nd1zx)

405 Suck it! Barry freed me!

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (bc2Lc)

406 Roll Over, Chelsea Manning, Tell Jonathan Pollard The News!

Posted by: Charles Berry, guitar maestro at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (JO9+V)

407 Oh, wait, forgot that he put freakin' Ben Rhodes on the board of the National Holocaust Memorial. Rhodes who may well be credited with giving Iran the nukes they use to attack Israel. Grrrrr!

Yeah, there's something fundamentally weird in that.

Posted by: Durian at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (TppKb)

408 UK Prime Minister Teresa May Gives Speech Indicating She'll Be Pursuing the "Hard Brexit" Option...

Somebody figured out "Soft BREXIT" => "TRUMPXIT 2.0 - TEH OTHER SHOE"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (xceq/)

409 397 Bradley (Chelsea) Manning


Now, under the terms of Mr. Obama's commutation announced by the White House on Tuesday, Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year, rather than in 2045.

-
Coming soon: a Hollywood movie. Chelsea Manning is Coming Out! starring Samantha B.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (9YjDP)


And thanks to Tranny Fetishes, he'll still get laid more than Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (WDCYi)

410 soy sauce and Japanese horseradish

---


Ya, I think that was it. Didn't know what it was. Didn't know what to expect.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (ACM1V)

411 Why does that little fag transexual get off for treason?

Answered your own question, didn't you?
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (nd1zx)

Yeah I know...it was moslty rhetorical

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (sRFAL)

412 There's little other than "Manning sentence mostly commuted" right now.

Not enough deets for a nood yet, I'd guess.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at January 17, 2017 04:32 PM (ul9CR)

413 Guilty as hell, free as a bird.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (JBggj)

414 Little while ago was following a hatchback car with a bumper sticker in the top left corner of the rear window
I'm Ready For Hillary
Hahahahahahahha haha ha ha

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (yx0Ld)

415
So Manning gets his commutation. Of course, that doesn't apply to any OTHER crimes he's committed. Or will commit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (XWkhW)

416
Oh, wait, forgot that he put freakin' Ben Rhodes on the board of the National Holocaust Memorial. Rhodes who may well be credited with giving Iran the nukes they use to attack Israel. Grrrrr!


Maybe he's plannining on adding a new wing

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (lKyWE)

417 Our local Limbaugh is going ballistic right now.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (ul9CR)

418 They aughta put the recruiter who recruited manning in the Brig

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (sRFAL)

419 The Democrats are soft of crime and coddle criminals? Why wherever did you get that idea?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (JO9+V)

420 405 Suck it! Barry freed me!
Posted by: Chelsea Manning at January 17, 2017 04:31 PM (bc2Lc)

Can't, you cut it off.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (8hICw)

421 Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year
..........

Because that's what this country needs, more treasonous weirdos.

Posted by: Bob Bergdahl's man bun at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (HgMAr)

422 Leonard Peltier, come on down!!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (4ErVI)

423 Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year

I am surprised it is not 01MAY17

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (sRFAL)

424 419 The Democrats are soft of crime and coddle criminals? Why wherever did you get that idea?
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:33 PM (JO9+V)

=======================

Don't forget national security.

There seems to be some kind of feeling that they prefer boutique issues to things like national security.

I really have no idea where people get that notion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (/prE6)

425 What a load of crap. There was no pardon for Scooter Libby, and I think Conrad Black deserves a pardon, too.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (JBggj)

426
DONT TELL ME ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT RUSSIA

NOT

ONE

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (EQZy6)

427 What about that CIA Agent in Portugal that Italy wants?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (sRFAL)

428 422 Leonard Peltier, come on down!!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (4ErVI)

Yeah, I expect that will be next. I was surprised when Clinton didn't pardon him.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (ZM2xo)

429 I'm betting the wait until May to spring Manning is so the taxpayers get hooked for all of his 'transistion'.

It's the least we can do for such a fine patriot as Mr./Ms./Missed Manning

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (nd1zx)

430 421 Ms. Manning is set to be freed in five months, on May 17 of this year
..........

Because that's what this country needs, more treasonous weirdos.
Posted by: Bob Bergdahl's man bun at January 17, 2017 04:34 PM (HgMAr)

======================

I, personally, look forward to his first of many appearances in MSNBC to assure scared liberals that Trump is a tool of Russia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (/prE6)

431 Flaming skull worthy. .Obama commutes. Chelsea Manning's sentence

Posted by: Voter dude at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (ckRtw)

432 Well at least we will be spared the embarrassment of the military having to pay for his sex change.

This can't end soon enough.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (/tuJf)

433 Will he pardon Snowden too?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (Om16U)

434

I hope he gets murdered in prison

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (EQZy6)

435 Up next on the pardon roll - Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (JO9+V)

436 426
DONT TELL ME ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT RUSSIA

NOT

ONE

Posted by: ThunderB at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (EQZy6)

But I don't have anything else to talk about...

Posted by: Edward Snowden at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (WDCYi)

437 Nood...but not Manning.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:36 PM (/prE6)

438
Well at least we will be spared the embarrassment of the military having to pay for his sex change.

What make you think so?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (IqV8l)

439 LimeyBoner?

Posted by: Sancho at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (oENGE)

440 Why not eliminate the Espionage and Secrets Laws all together and eliminate all Security Clearances? What the fuck let's just surrender to the Ruskies and Chicoms

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (sRFAL)

441 The only sushi I like is ones with Spam inside.
I peel the kelp and rice off and chow the Spam pieces.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (HgMAr)

442 TheJamesMadison thats my line

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (yx0Ld)

443 So he commutes the sentence of a proven traitor? Of all people?

Got it. One by one he's removing what little doubt was left that Obama is truly anti American at heart.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:30 PM (9ASbL)


Think of all the people languishing in prisons, possibly innocent, but at least model prisoners for sometimes decades... and not one of them considered. Instead, this guy.

Yep. Says all it can possibly say about the Scoamf.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (TOk1P)

444 The manning commutation doesn't take effect until May. Trump can rescind it. This is a trap to make Trump look bad with the lgbtqwerty crowd.

As always with prince 5 putt, you have to look for the ulterior motive.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (d76uN)

445 DONT TELL ME ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT RUSSIA

Look, Russia hacked the DNC, but Manning helped it gain power. Clearly there's a difference here!

Posted by: President Barack Hussein O'Bama at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

446 442 TheJamesMadison thats my line
Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2017 04:37 PM (yx0Ld)

====================

You steal my first, and I steal your line.

Boom.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (/prE6)

447 Still not as bad as Bill Clinton's pardons. Granted Obama would have to pardon Charles Manson to clear that bar.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth proud son of a Marine at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (1me8P)

448 >>What make you think so?

Well I would assume he is going to get a dishonorable discharge. Not seeing how the military would be on the hook for him after that.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

449 He can celebrate with Hillary. That piece of shit was convicted of aiding the enemy and various UCMJ charges for mishandling classified intelligence, deliberately and with malice. The original sentence recommendation was about 90 years due to the severities of the charges.

But way to fuck our country and the military on your way out the door sparky.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (9ASbL)

450 444 The manning commutation doesn't take effect until May. Trump can rescind it. This is a trap to make Trump look bad with the lgbtqwerty crowd.

As always with prince 5 putt, you have to look for the ulterior motive.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at January 17, 2017 04:38 PM (d76uN)

======================

Can you rescind a presidential pardon?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:39 PM (/prE6)

451 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 17, 2017 04:39 PM (mpXpK)

452 --
Why does that little fag transexual get off for treason?

-------------

You misspelled "on" f-o-r.
Answer: I don't know why the president is that way.

Posted by: irright at January 17, 2017 04:39 PM (pMGkg)

453 Might as well give it up guys -- nood is up.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 17, 2017 04:40 PM (ro5Th)

454 Yeah, I expect that will be next. I was surprised when Clinton didn't pardon him.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 17, 2017 04:35 PM (ZM2xo)


Expecting a pardon, I recently looked for info on Peltier and found a revisionist piece written on him years ago.

They went through the whole thing and the amount of evidence linking him to it is about as strong as you can get without a picture of him actually killing a federal agent. Fingerprints on a bag holding one of the agent's gun found in a getaway car, etc.

What surprised me is that he's actually eligible for parole. They just keep denying it.

So they could've granted parole and he'd be free. For me though it's the nature of the crime that should keep him locked up and the fact that so many of the USUAL SUSPECTS keep advocating for his release. I say keep him locked up, but if Barry commuted the sentence it's not as huge of a fucking deal as I thought it would be. Now an outright pardon would be a fucking crime.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2017 04:41 PM (4ErVI)

455 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 17, 2017 04:39 PM (/prE6)

Anything that is not in effect at the time the POTUS changes hands IIRC can be rescinded by the incoming POTUS.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at January 17, 2017 04:41 PM (d76uN)

456 >>>>>DONT TELL ME ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT RUSSIA



NOT



ONE
.
.
.
.Or the Chinese hack of OPM that got everything my wife and I ever put on a security clearance form for 20+ years in the Navy.

obama didn't do a thing about that except give me free credit monitoring for 5 years.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 17, 2017 04:42 PM (le7jz)

457 Fuckin Dems Clinton pardoned FALN members on his way out thr door. They. delivered the PR vote to get Canckles her Sen seat in NY

Posted by: Voter dude at January 17, 2017 04:44 PM (ckRtw)

458 Lindsay Lohan hasn't become a clit-choppee! According to my sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2017 04:49 PM (lJXY3)

459 Jonathan Pollard was released in Nov 2015 after serving 30 years for espionage.

Posted by: Sancho at January 17, 2017 05:36 PM (dongu)

460 In his head, he said a different word, but he knew he couldn't use it on camera. You know I'm right.

As I have said before: if you want to see what actual racism looks like; just let blacks start voting Republican again.

Posted by: An Observation at January 17, 2017 05:37 PM (py4xj)

461 "It's not just the White House and Congress.

Republicans have most state govts."

But most of those are Rove Republicans, and as such are nothing more than Hillary, but without the balls. Or haven't you noticed Lyin' Ryan insisting that Congress won't let President Trump remove the invaders? And then there's Shrub-wannabe Rubio, and Johnny McStain. Real conservatives who want to keep this country an independent sovereign nation, like President Trump, are a small minority of elected officials in this nation...

Posted by: Mark Matis at January 17, 2017 05:46 PM (LzG0h)

462 But most of those are Rove Republicans, and as such are nothing more than Hillary, but without the balls. Or haven't you noticed Lyin' Ryan insisting that Congress won't let President Trump remove the invaders? And then there's Shrub-wannabe Rubio, and Johnny McStain. Real conservatives who want to keep this country an independent sovereign nation, like President Trump, are a small minority of elected officials in this nation...

*****************

Republicans have healthy majorities in both houses, but the RINO Speaker of the House and the Dem remnant control the legislature.
We are blessed that our legislature only meets every two years for 180 days.
We've been trying for years to reverse that to every 180 years for two days.

Posted by: Sancho at January 17, 2017 05:55 PM (dongu)

463 462
Oops, I meant to say "in Texas"

Posted by: Sancho at January 17, 2017 05:57 PM (dongu)

464 Sounds like somebody just went to the head of the line.

Posted by: rayj at January 17, 2017 09:24 PM (pI/IV)

465 21 BREAKING: Trade cartels are inherently unstable.

Developing...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 17, 2017 03:15 PM (8ZskC)


I have a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: Qui-Gon Jinn at January 18, 2017 04:01 AM (ulnyA)

466 52 42 ...if a NATO country started attacking a NATO country... is the US obligated in some way?

Ronaldus Magnus once parked the Sixth Fleet in the Aegean and told the Turks and the Greeks to knock it off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2017 03:20 PM (B+qrE)

Ok, but Turkey and Greece are basically JV members. What if France/Germany attacked Britain?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2017 03:21 PM (8hICw)


Same thing.
France/Germany couldn't invade Libya.
They needed us to do that for them, too.

Posted by: BuddyPC at January 18, 2017 04:05 AM (ulnyA)

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