Michael Wolff: Trump Has Upset the Establishment By Letting Them Know Their Station and Status are Not Secure

The ongoing expressions of shock on the part of the cultural establishment--expressed on a daily basis by The New Yorker, New York magazine and The New York Times, anything, apparently, with New York in its title--reflect their fears that the development of a more careful, regulated and corrected world is about to be undone. That the unapologetic white male has returned. You could hardly find a more threatening and throwback version of that than Trump--a rich, voluble, egomaniacal, middle-aged pussy hound...
The culture norm is as starkly confronted as the political norm with proof that it's not speaking to the lives of a sizeable part of the nation: that same pussy talk that shocked cosmopolitans turns out not to be of much concern, and even to express a casual day-to-day reality, for many Americans....
INSTINCTIVELY OR BY CANNY PLAN, Trump converted the conservatives' parochial and rate-limiting culture war on abortion and gay marriage into a much more visceral campaign against the political pieties of sophisticated America, with Trump as the ultimate revenge on upper-middlebrow cultural life. It's the mannered and effete against the profane and immediate....
This attack on careful, orderly, prescribed culture is what happens when the culture stops talking about real things--at least what a significant part of the country regards as real and important. Or, it is--and certainly is inevitably thought to be by those cultural standard bearers under attack--a sinister onslaught against enlightenment itself....
Indeed, the election reengages a gender battle that many people on the New York side of the Trump gap had thought was mightily going in only one direction. The vestigial and primitive American man, unreconstructed, baying at the moon (probably high on opiates)--the alt-right in the liberal view--voiceless for many years (or, anyway, wise to shut up), now had Donald "Let me be your voice" Trump. The obvious message of his sudden resurgence of course is that he didn’t go away or reform: He was just shut out. Without any place in upper-middlebrow culture, except as an occasional enemy of reason or subject of scandal, there was no bridge to who he was--no humanity left for him.

Very good piece. He has some suggestions for media-types who would like to actually get to know what is happening in America -- but I doubt he'll find any takers.

Posted by: Ace at 07:02 PM

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1 Great! And I'm wearing a sock!

Posted by: jerry's nana at January 13, 2017 07:03 PM (lJXY3)

2 st???????????????????????????

Posted by: I Need a Drink at January 13, 2017 07:03 PM (bKxiT)

3 Okay. I'll get the rest.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2017 07:03 PM (lJXY3)

4 Thank God it's Friday. I've had about all I can stand of this week.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Trivial Psychic at January 13, 2017 07:04 PM (LTHVh)

5 1 Great! And I'm wearing a sock!
Posted by: jerry's nana at January 13, 2017 07:03 PM (lJXY3)

That's what happens you watch porn. LOL

Posted by: I Need a Drink at January 13, 2017 07:05 PM (bKxiT)

6 another top 10...... I'm good

Posted by: I Need a Drink at January 13, 2017 07:06 PM (bKxiT)

7 I think it's nice that some people think they can reason with those people... and by "those people" I'm not talking about Party affiliations, as much as I am this mentality that there's only one way to think about so many aspects of our culture.

Personally, I don't believe talking to them is going to help.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:06 PM (Pz4pT)

8 Yes, so they can stamp their feet and say He's not their President and go hide in a corner with their blankies...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 13, 2017 07:06 PM (O2RFr)

9 middle aged?

vigor and riches count for a lot, sure. and he's no coot. but middle aged?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at January 13, 2017 07:07 PM (U0lQa)

10 I work around these people every flippin' day. I don't talk to them about anything real. It does me no good to try.

Believe me, I have tried. I'm not going to waste my time anymore, or have to worry about what other damage I'm doing to my professional position.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:07 PM (Pz4pT)

11 YOUR ALL ILLEGITAMENT!@!!

frothing at the mouth, shaking fists, pissing self

Posted by: John Lewis at January 13, 2017 07:08 PM (pY+s4)

12 middle aged?

vigor and riches count for a lot, sure. and he's no coot. but middle aged?

On the bright side, that leaves me some time before I'm old.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Trivial Psychic at January 13, 2017 07:08 PM (LTHVh)

13 ". . . Trump converted the conservatives' parochial and rate-limiting culture war on abortion and gay marriage into a much more visceral campaign against the political pieties of sophisticated America, with Trump as the ultimate revenge on upper-middlebrow cultural life."

This.

The left ran out of things that matter to mess up, so they moved on to their parochial and rate-limiting issues, and they got thumped.

It turns out that there a lot of Americans who care more about their take-home pay and the safety of their neighborhoods than where trannies get to pee.

Posted by: Furious George at January 13, 2017 07:08 PM (77i7V)

14 "A middle-aged pussy hound". Trump keeps bringing back more jobs.

Posted by: jas at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (17INV)

15 It's like telling them that sipping Obama cock is sub optimum, they won't listen, and keep on sucking even harder.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (6Ll1u)

16 middle aged?

vigor and riches count for a lot, sure. and he's no coot. but middle aged?
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at January 13, 2017 07:07 PM (U0lQa)

Everything skews upward these days.

So sure. Middle aged. And if you are under 40, whether you are personally a mature adult or not, your age group is still young adult/adolescent.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (Pz4pT)

17 Good. Pile it on.
Let those divisive a-holes feel some of the heat they have been dishing out to us for 8 long years.

Posted by: navybrat at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (w7KSn)

18 Probably high on beer. Opiates no.

Posted by: jacke at January 13, 2017 07:10 PM (UeWF/)

19 https://tinyurl.com/zm46qcf

TSA chief stepping down after Trump inauguration

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 13, 2017 07:10 PM (y3aQB)

20 Fresh thread. Remember to wash your socks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 13, 2017 07:10 PM (DMUuz)

21 OK, OK, ace, I can see where you like some of this.

Me, I can't get past the wholesale orwellian inversion and distortion of the meaning of words, or in some cases at least the absence of "so-called" or "self-defined" or scare quotes.

The anti-Trump people he in many cases is referring to are neither sophisticated, nor well mannered, nor cultured - and essentially they're just not very bright, and quite bigoted and ignorant, with astonishingly narrow life experience.

As you yourself so wonderfully have put it, the elites are hardly elite these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:12 PM (QDnY+)

22 @1: Great! And I'm wearing a sock!

Posted by: jerry's nana at January 13, 2017 07:03 PM (lJXY3)

So am I!

Posted by: Flea's wang at January 13, 2017 07:12 PM (rznWS)

23 19: Good. Now dissolve the TSA.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:12 PM (pY+s4)

24 Bottom rail on top

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 07:12 PM (yx0Ld)

25 Newsweak is still around?

Posted by: who knew? at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (wpC7C)

26 ace>... but I doubt he'll find any takers.

I won't be looking for David Brooks at Waffle House.

Posted by: Golfman at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (48QDY)

27 Perhaps I was inured to "pussy grab" talk after years of exposure to silky-smooth entreaties to suck it, eat it, or bite it. I simply didn't care that he said something that was tantamount to "grabbing somebody by the balls" (figuratively, I assume). I laughed.

My mom's hypereducated lib friend said she was shocked to her very core when she heard Trump say that. She just wasn't exposed to that kind of talk.

She had no problem pulling the lever for Bill Clinton, of course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (EnKk6)

28 After the election, I read a lot from New York media types claiming they were going to start listening to those flyover folks they regularly sneer at and malign. But of course, they've done nothing of the kind nor do they intend to. Liberals learn nothing and forget everything.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (ppaKI)

29 It's like telling them that sipping Obama cock is sub optimum, they won't listen, and keep on sucking even harder.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (6Ll1u)

This is what I find so fascinating. Pretty soon Obama won't matter. At all.

I sincerely mean that. The left will move on because he really offers them nothing other than a vestigial appendage to hang onto. It will be fun watching them find out there's no there, there.

Then what? Then where do they go? Then it gets really fun. Then we get more trannies and race wars. Not fewer.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (Pz4pT)

30 The self-proclaimed elites will never admit that Hillary was DESPISED by half the country, and that two factors drove voters to Trump:

1. Our country was on the brink of socialism designed to subjugate and obliterate the silent majority.

2. The "Deplorables/irredeemables" charges against this beleaguered cohort.

We had no choice but to vote Trump.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 07:14 PM (nQ10o)

31 In many ways the Left is a self-licking ice cream cone. For a political generation they have done nothing but believe their own BS. But no one else did. And all it did was further isolate them from mainstream America.
This self indulgent in-breeding has pushed the Left so far left that they have become the buffoons they are today.
I enjoy every new bit of idiocy that comes from anything with New York in it.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 13, 2017 07:14 PM (0tfLf)

32 Feels good to be middle aged again.

Posted by: wth at January 13, 2017 07:14 PM (HgMAr)

33 Everything I learned about grabbing mish was learned in Cosmo!

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at January 13, 2017 07:15 PM (1/I/y)

34 He has "upset" them because their station and status are not secure? That is funny. What would really upset their station and status is if they were allowed to turn this country into Little Syria, or Little Somalia.

The absolute stupidity of these people, it is breathtaking to behold. They cannot assess who is a threat, and who will leave them in peace. Like atheists who fear devout Christians more than militant Islamists.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2017 07:15 PM (vP09u)

35 TSA chief stepping down after Trump inauguration

Jeh Johnson? Hope so.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 07:15 PM (Vddbf)

36 27:My mom's hypereducated lib friend said she was shocked to her very core when she heard Trump say that. She just wasn't exposed to that kind of talk.

Sure she hasn't. She never watches TV or see's movies I gather?

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:16 PM (pY+s4)

37 70 is middle aged??

Sweet!!!

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:16 PM (Jcg9Q)

38 Sure she hasn't. She never watches TV or see's movies I gather?
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:16 PM (pY+s4)
---
Of course she has. It was pure bullshit virtue semaphore.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:17 PM (EnKk6)

39 My mom's hypereducated lib friend said she was shocked to her very core when she heard Trump say that. She just wasn't exposed to that kind of talk.

And she still wouldn't have been exposed to that kind of talk if the State Media hadn't exposed her.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Trivial Psychic at January 13, 2017 07:17 PM (LTHVh)

40 @28: "After the election, I read a lot from New York media types claiming they
were going to start listening to those flyover folks they regularly
sneer at and malign."

If you were truly one of the elite, like us, you'd realize that "listening to" means "advocating the genocide of". It's simply polite phrasing, peasant.

*dismissive sniff*

Posted by: New York media types at January 13, 2017 07:18 PM (rznWS)

41 Good people have finally stood up and said enough of your bullshit. Yes. I work umpteen hours to support my family but I can no longer give these assholes a pass.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2017 07:18 PM (OuPAS)

42 Just finished reading another really good Trump piece at a site I don't frequent much anymore: NRO. But, VDH is almost always a good read, and Vox Day, of all people, linked to it, so there I was.

What Exactly Is Trumpism?
Note the common denominator to the all these hostile groups: It is Trump the man, not Trump the avatar of some political movement that they detest. After all, there are no Trump political philosophers. There is no slate of down-ballot Trump ideologues. If Trump were to start a third party, what would be its chief tenets? There is as yet neither a Trump "Contract for America" nor a Trump "First Principles" manifesto.

Nonetheless, from the 2016 campaign and from President-elect Trump's slated appointments, past interviews, and tweets, we can see a coherent worldview emerging, something different from both orthodox conservativism and liberalism, though certainly Trumpism is far closer to the former than to the latter. Here may be a few outlines of Trumpist thought.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443667/trumpism-
tradition-populism-american-greatness-strong-military

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2017 07:18 PM (R+30W)

43 "the conservatives' parochial and rate-limiting culture war on abortion and gay marriage"

Hmmm. Yeah we're dealing in broad brush strokes here, but parochial? Not sure what "rate-limiting" is supposed to connote here - politically hobbling?

In both "campaigns" of the culture "war" he mentions, the "conservatives" neither initiated the action, nor were ever out-voted on their preferences.

Golly gee, there's even a few serious people out there who never in their voting lives voted based on either issue, but understood the constitution, common sense, and language well enough to be outraged and frightened by the lawlessness and authoritarianism involved in imposing unpopular changes on society, via a constitutionally-rogue judiciary.

I'll stop. But yet again, here we have a discussion that's almost mooted or rendered off-course from the outset, by a false framework, and an elaborate edifice of universally/lazily accepted non-facts.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:18 PM (QDnY+)

44 The stupid.

It burns.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:18 PM (CRotO)

45 I do think one way Trump hit pay dirt that no one else is talking about is that he wasn't some Santorum type Culture Warrior that had alienated many normally right leaning voters.

Cruz would not have been able to put together that coalition.

Posted by: xanax at January 13, 2017 07:19 PM (uamg/)

46 Bottom line, Trump is the brass knuckle wielded against the effeminate left waving the hands to dry their nails.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 13, 2017 07:20 PM (aMlLZ)

47 st

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:20 PM (7qAYi)

48 I pray for God to bless, protect and guide Trump almost daily. The forces of darkness seem to be closing in everywhere.

Posted by: Jmel at January 13, 2017 07:21 PM (D8g/D)

49 OK, OK, ace, I can see where you like some of this.

Me, I can't get past the wholesale orwellian inversion and distortion of the meaning of words, or in some cases at least the absence of "so-called" or "self-defined" or scare quotes.

The anti-Trump people he in many cases is referring to are neither sophisticated, nor well mannered, nor cultured - and essentially they're just not very bright, and quite bigoted and ignorant, with astonishingly narrow life experience.

As you yourself so wonderfully have put it, the elites are hardly elite these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:12 PM (QDnY+)

Yes, I was having a hard time seeing what it was about the writing here I found so annoying. I think that's it. Whoever wrote this is already part "bought in" to the language, and therefore, infected.

Some work for this person still needs to be done. And until it is, I'm not sure how much use I have for it, which is why I say this is NOT a Democrat v. Republican thing. It's bigger than that.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:21 PM (Pz4pT)

50 @31: "This self indulgent in-breeding has pushed the Left so far left that they have become the buffoons they are today."

And yet we still hold absolute sway over about half of the population. After summer is winter, and after winter summer. We wait, patient and potent, for here shall We reign again.

Posted by: The Left at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (rznWS)

51 Trump was the right man at the right time in the right place.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (OuPAS)

52 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:20 PM (7qAYi)

... and you win the participation trophy for the evening.

Posted by: Golfman at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (48QDY)

53 Good. Pile it on.
Let those divisive a-holes feel some of the heat they have been dishing out to us for 8 long years.

Posted by: navybrat at January 13, 2017 07:09 PM (w7KSn)

28 years.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (Jcg9Q)

54 I voted for Cruz in the primary but prefer Trump's style, or lack thereof, by a significant margin. There is an under celebrated genius to Trump.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (Sfs6o)

55 Puddleglum, I barely watch any TV any more, and haven't seen a new movie in years.

So it does happen. Though I think it's far more common among common sense sorts than among fascists and authoritarians (known as "liberals" in America today).

And Eris, love the "virtue semaphore".

(oh, and I wasn't shocked by p***ygate - though not my style ...... but who cares, when Hillary was about to slam the door shut on the American experiment)

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (QDnY+)

56 Well, at least they can console themselves with "Gay Muslim Furry Romance":

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zfmaxfn

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (vBeA5)

57 trump says "shut up" to the people who've used "shut up" to control the institutions of society.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (WTSFk)

58 52 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:20 PM (7qAYi)

... and you win the participation trophy for the evening.
Posted by: Golfman at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (48QDY)

Hooray!

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (7qAYi)

59
TSA chief stepping down after Trump inauguration

+++

good. ought to.

unrelated: did you know there's an armed TSA desk jockey about 10 paces away from the baggage claims area in Ft Lauderdale Airport?

fucking useless all of them

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at January 13, 2017 07:24 PM (U0lQa)

60 Maybe a few choruses of "We will survive"while sucking their thumbs will help them cope...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 13, 2017 07:24 PM (O2RFr)

61 This self indulgent in-breeding has pushed the Left so far left that they have become the buffoons they are today.

It still creeps me out how incurable it is. We're all human beings. Humans are supposed to be the rational animal.

Leftists are just Scientologists wearing a slightly better suit.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2017 07:25 PM (vP09u)

62
Well that was a fun waste of 2 hours. I was playing around with my computer and I deleted my graphics driver.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 13, 2017 07:25 PM (/fs7H)

63 "This self indulgent in-breeding has pushed the Left so far left that they have become the buffoons they are today."
---
West Coast Wittelsbachs married to Hamptons Hapsburgs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:25 PM (EnKk6)

64 70 is middle aged in the same sense that ace is 28 and 11/12ths.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at January 13, 2017 07:25 PM (EZVcm)

65 "racist!", "sexist!", homophobe!", "nazi!", etc. are all ways of saying "shut up!"

trump tells those people to "shut up".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:26 PM (WTSFk)

66 Trump said that the election would be justice for Hillary.
Dontcha know it because she has has a load up of mercy.

Posted by: 80's music fan at January 13, 2017 07:27 PM (xyDAt)

67 Wonder how many Barak administration employees will leave the country to go were a extradition isn't possible.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 07:27 PM (yx0Ld)

68 I think I'll do some shopping at LL Bean this weekend.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (0tfLf)

69 25 or 6 to 4, liberals understand why they will kill them selves in unprecedented numbers in the next few years.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (73zup)

70 TSA. Thousands Standing Around. Along with DHS and DNI, things needing abolition. And in each case, there were many many at the time of their creation saying whoa, don't do this, this is idiocy. No hindsight involved.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (QDnY+)

71 I think I'll do some shopping at LL Bean this weekend.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (0tfLf)

I did...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (O2RFr)

72 I do think one way Trump hit pay dirt that no one else is talking about is that he wasn't some Santorum type Culture Warrior that had alienated many normally right leaning voters.

Cruz would not have been able to put together that coalition.

Posted by: xanax at January 13, 2017 07:19 PM (uamg/)

Trump got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

Who else could have done that?

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (Jcg9Q)

73 Life begins at...er...neeevermind.

Posted by: Moses at January 13, 2017 07:29 PM (vP09u)

74 OT: Senate Intelligence Committee, led by an R from NC, is going to investigate Trump connections to Russia.

Posted by: shibumi, who occasionally does really stupid things at January 13, 2017 07:29 PM (J5mC3)

75 Good evening, morons.

As if on cue, I just saw a promo for an ABC News special on the "hidden America" of people having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet.

Gee, what brought this newfound curiosity to the fore?

Hint: They even say "a week before the Inauguration."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2017 07:29 PM (F0ZHr)

76 52 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:20 PM (7qAYi)

... and you win the participation trophy for the evening.
Posted by: Golfman at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (48QDY)

Hooray!

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:23 PM (7qAYi)
.........

Maybe a medal like Joe's.

Posted by: wth at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (HgMAr)

77 Why won't some fascist airheads start a boycott of gun and reloading websites?

Then I'd feel obliged - obliged, I tell ya - to patronize them.

Even more.

Than I am already.

Or, alternatively, I'd have a ridiculously transparent rationale for doing what I want to do anyway. Which is always nice to have.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (QDnY+)

78 rhomboid; I find it silly to use the Shocked!! Shocked!! at the vile and uncivilized Donald Trump and yet awash yourself in the current culture dominated by the "values" of Hollywood and Manhattan.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (pY+s4)

79 When a million govt workers are replaced by some of the 95 million non workers, I call that a success.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (OuPAS)

80 ~~Trump~~ Hillary got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

At least for me anyways.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Trivial Psychic at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (LTHVh)

81 Oh I am so flattered to be called profane by Mr fancypants Wolff /sarc

Posted by: PaleRider at January 13, 2017 07:31 PM (dkExz)

82
This is what I find so fascinating. Pretty soon Obama won't matter. At all.

I sincerely mean that. The left will move on because he really offers them nothing other than a vestigial appendage to hang onto. It will be fun watching them find out there's no there, there.

If they're still parading John Lewis around as some kind of demi-god then Obama has years and years left in him.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2017 07:32 PM (IqV8l)

83 I understand Ace is suggesting the article for its larger meanings but with lines like: "Trump converted the conservatives' parochial and rate-limiting culture war on abortion and gay marriage..." I won't give that piece of shit my click. Democrats over and over again force the issues of abortion and gay marriage into the news with the ONLY purpose to be to make Conservatives appear as if it was THEY who are fighting it. So his entire premise is a crock of shit unworthy of my analysis. Y'all can disagree and I expect it but you legitimize his BS when you do.

Posted by: Smitty27 at January 13, 2017 07:33 PM (g9d8D)

84 These people are not necessarily crazy or stupid, just ill-informed and we have the MFM to thank for that. If you watch CNN and NPT your brain is filled with a kind of effluent that should cause the EPA to have multiple messes of kittens.

Case in point: I work with a nice couple who are good friends. They have six college degrees between them, including three master's and a doctorate, some in STEM fields. They are political ignoramuses. Just how politically ignorant they are is demonstrated by the following anecdote from about three years ago. I mentioned the full name of our present CinC, including the "Hussain" that is his middle name. My friend (masters in Botany and Engineering) jumped all over me, saying "Don't spread those lies ... that was made up by the Republicans and Rush Limbaugh." I emailed him a link to whitehouse.gov, which gives the Obamanation's name in full and never heard anything more about that.

However, I do NOT and cannot discuss politics with these otherwise very smart and nice friends because when it comes to all that, they are first class dumb shits. Not bad people, no, but with a big black hole of stupid where their otherwise fully functional brains are located. They voted for Obama and they voted for Her Thighness and they do not have the least clue about just how stupid that was.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:33 PM (ro5Th)

85 @74

Ryan, McCain, Graham, Rubio and McConnell are going to be a problem.

Ryan in the House and Grahnm in the Senate are going to introduce a bill to shield all of Obamas dreamers from deportation.

Rubio is going to try to block Tillerson

McCain is going to be McCain and McConnell is going to be his usual treacherous self.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2017 07:34 PM (+lv+r)

86 As if on cue, I just saw a promo for an ABC News special on the "hidden America" of people having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet.

Gee, what brought this newfound curiosity to the fore?

Hint: They even say "a week before the Inauguration."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2017 07:29 PM (F0ZHr)

Only hidden to the bubble fucks on the coasts.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:35 PM (Jcg9Q)

87 72:Trump got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

Hillary had a throwaway line during an interview that ALL Evangelical Christians heard. She said something along the lines that the Christian Church would have to CHANGE there views on certain issues (gay marriage-abortion) when she becomes President. Can't remember the exact wording and I'm too lazy to look it up. Thats one of the reason's teh EC's went Trump's way.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (pY+s4)

88 I think that the major reason Trump won is his in your face attitude. Something happened both politically and culturally during the Bush years that ticks me off even today. It is the assertions made by the "elites" that are NEVER challenged. I don't know when it really started, or why it continues, but it is like watching a slightly less lethal form of invasion of the body snatchers. Heck, when Regan was president and folks were screaming about the "religious right" you always heard not just lefties challenge extreme positions, you heard from folks with similar views who simply said, "Ah, I can't go that far". Now the left is the cultural force and the steady litany of white men suck, everybody is racist, refer to my by my preferred pronoun, and by the way Dad, you can't take your daughter in the men's room (or go into the ladies room with her), but a guy in a dress can go in any time he likes. Really?!

Posted by: lightning at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (pwONV)

89 OT: Senate Intelligence Committee, led by an DC Establishment RINO from NC, is going to investigate Trump connections to Russia.

Posted by: shibumi, who occasionally does really stupid things at January 13, 2017 07:29 PM (J5mC3)

I think this might convey a bit more nuance!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (wCEn4)

90 Where's Bob?

Posted by: That Other Guy who asks "Where's Bob?" at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (DMUuz)

91 INSTINCTIVELY OR BY CANNY PLAN, Trump converted the conservatives' parochial and rate-limiting culture war ...

Trump is either the luckiest or most brilliant politician in my lifetime, and possibly both. Wonder if we'll ever know ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (mt8X9)

92 Ryan, McCain, Graham, Rubio and McConnell

The Gang of Whore

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 07:37 PM (Tyii7)

93 Trump Hillary got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

At least for me anyways.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Trivial Psychic at January 13, 2017 07:30 PM (LTHVh)

Granted, but there was still some resistance for a while regardless.

The Beth Moore types can rot in hell.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:37 PM (Jcg9Q)

94 It's the mannered and effete against the profane and immediate....

This guy talks like a fag & his shit's all retarded.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:38 PM (7qAYi)

95 I have just received notice that flashing red lights will need to be installed on my schadenboner in order to comply with FAA flight safety regulations.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2017 07:38 PM (8ZskC)

96 However, I do NOT and cannot discuss politics with these otherwise very smart and nice friends because when it comes to all that, they are first class dumb shits. Not bad people, no, but with a big black hole of stupid where their otherwise fully functional brains are located. They voted for Obama and they voted for Her Thighness and they do not have the least clue about just how stupid that was.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:33 PM (ro5Th)

With all due respect, this is where you and many others need to wake up.

They voted for Odumbass. They voted for the SheBeast.

That right there says they are bad. Enemies to be dealt with at the appropriate time.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:39 PM (Jcg9Q)

97
She said something along the lines that the Christian Church would have to CHANGE there views on certain issues (gay marriage-abortion) when she becomes President. Can't remember the exact wording and I'm too lazy to look it up. Thats one of the reason's teh EC's went Trump's way.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2017 07:36 PM (pY+s4)

I think she actually said they would have to change their long held beliefs

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 13, 2017 07:39 PM (lKyWE)

98 Good news! If 70 is middle age, then Trump has 70 more years to irrritate them-and Make America Great Again!

Posted by: Chilling the most at January 13, 2017 07:39 PM (Cl52v)

99 68: ll bean jeans are great quality and fit at a reasonable price. best deal and highly recommended.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:39 PM (WTSFk)

100 Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2017 07:34 PM (+lv+r)

Comfy DC Establishment filled with easy graft and A-List party invites, OR, the great unknown of trying to re-establish a functional country -- no question which way the scum are going!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:40 PM (wCEn4)

101 65 "racist!", "sexist!", homophobe!", "nazi!", etc. are all ways of saying "shut up!"

trump tells those people to "shut up".
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:26 PM (WTSFk)

Don't forget the newest variant: "Check your privilege!"

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

102 I think this might convey a bit more nuance!
--

I didn't know him; that's why I included his info. Thanks for clarifying.

So... there is no such thing as party loyalty? The RINOS will shield Hillary but go after Trump? Is that our reality?

Posted by: shibumi, who occasionally does really stupid things at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (J5mC3)

103 Donald Trump is the Johnny Cash of presidentin, I've been everywhere man, I've been everywhere.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (6Ll1u)

104 I think I'll do some shopping at LL Bean this weekend.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (0tfLf)

Do they have Crocs?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (8ZskC)

105 99 68: ll bean jeans are great quality and fit at a reasonable price. best deal and highly recommended.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:39 PM (WTSFk)

Encourage everyone to buy LL Bean if at all possible. That woman has guts!

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (nQ10o)

106 Let me be clear. We thought this smear package would work. Like my other projects: Cash 4 Clunkers, Obamacare 4 Clingers, Obamacare waivers 4 Unions, Guns 4 Mexican Gangs, Bengahazi 4 State Department whities, ISIL Imigrants 4 Donations, I will have to add Slander Propaganda 4 Trumpers. With that type of presidential track record I will go down in history. Call me a progressive. Call me ahead of my time. Call me a vindictive bitter little weenie. But don't call me another Winston Churchhill. I have tried to send all of those busts back to Egland. Good day.

Posted by: Barky O at January 13, 2017 07:42 PM (4acWK)

107 Boy, I sure f*cked things up, didn't I?

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 13, 2017 07:42 PM (Tyii7)

108
I was reading some more crap about GoldenShowerGate at Zero Hedge.

It might have been the Jeb! campaign that originally commissioned that firm to get dirt on Trump's Russian ties, which then hired that Steele guy, who compiled that shit from supposed Russian sources.

ANd guess what else? The FSB (formally KGB of course) may have made all that whore pissing stuff up as a disinformation campaign to embarrass those digging for dirt on Trump.

That would be hilarious,. Putin punking our spools with this made up whore pissing stuff.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 07:42 PM (DW+jj)

109 Only hidden to the bubble fucks on the coasts.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:35 PM (Jcg9Q
----
I love this battle between Hinterland Bumblefucks and Coastal Bubble-fucks!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:42 PM (EnKk6)

110 Did I do that?

Posted by: Presiden Urkel at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (LTHVh)

111 That right there says they are bad. Enemies to be dealt with at the appropriate time.

No, that's my point. They are NOT bad, just ignorant because they have been misled by the media and other influences. They are very nice people and good, reliable friends. This is NOT about going all Viking and starting civil wars between everyone we know. Let's let them watch what happens under Trump and maybe, just maybe they will start to come around. Just today I dropped a mention when they found that a contractor was too busy to come running that ever since the election the builders are busy and the public's optimism has soared. No comment, but no denial. The truth is powerful, but it takes time to be heard. As someone (Twain?) once said, a lie will go around the world before the truth gets its boots on. Give it time.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (ro5Th)

112 RE comment 87: Good example of the point I am trying to make but know I am screwing up. I feel like we went from a political and cultural place where folks believed in live and let live. No demonization or belief that the other side was evil. Now it is like if you don't follow the cultural/political script of the media/elites you are an evil, racist, who needs to lose their jobs and be shunned from polite society. I find it ironic that progressive behave in a manner very similar to the pilgrims that settled New England.

Posted by: lightning at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (pwONV)

113 That would be hilarious,. Putin punking our spools with this made up whore pissing stuff.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 07:42 PM (DW+jj)
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Spooks + Fools = Spools?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (EnKk6)

114
OT: Senate Intelligence Committee, led by an R from NC, is going to investigate Trump connections to Russia.

Not surprised.

Posted by: Soothsayer XLT at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (/fs7H)

115 >>I think I'll do some shopping at LL Bean this weekend.

They make a sturdy Messenger bag.

It says, "I'm gay. But, I still like chopping wood, camping and wearing plaid.".

Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (tdv0F)

116 This is what I find so fascinating. Pretty soon Obama won't matter. At all.

I sincerely mean that. The left will move on because he really offers them nothing other than a vestigial appendage to hang onto. It will be fun watching them find out there's no there, there.

Then what? Then where do they go? Then it gets really fun. Then we get more trannies and race wars. Not fewer.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2017 07:13 PM (Pz4pT)

==================

Hope you're correct. I suspect that just like every disaster the past eight years was Bush's fault, every success during the next eight years will be credited by the usual suspects to the foundation laid and policies of The DogEater ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 07:44 PM (mt8X9)

117 The RINOS will shield Hillary but go after Trump? Is that our reality?

Posted by: shibumi, who occasionally does really stupid things at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (J5mC3)

Maverick McCain is waist deep in the Russian "dossier" distribution, and licking his chops every step of the way, but yes, I am sure "our" conservative Republican party will pull together to back Trump!
/s

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:44 PM (wCEn4)

118 ... really, their jeans are what levi's used to be before they went all youth culture - durable, traditional fit and like $30 or so. great value!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 13, 2017 07:44 PM (WTSFk)

119 Graydon Carter, ... gaucheries of
Trump,...several decades of political
correctness was bound to breed resentments in the people being corrected.

If your going to scold like a nun you have to wear the penguin outfit.

Posted by: DaveA at January 13, 2017 07:44 PM (8J/Te)

120 >>>"racist!", "sexist!", homophobe!", "nazi!", etc. are all ways of saying "shut up!"

And the worst part is, they forget this and think they are making substantive points, and they cannot be persuaded otherwise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2017 07:45 PM (vP09u)

121 >>>> the "hidden America" of people having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet.

I have four part-time jobs right now. Masters in English....I know, I know....lol

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 07:45 PM (G7LgH)

122 maybe, just maybe they will start to come around

Not a gambler but I'd bet the house against that.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 07:45 PM (Tyii7)

123 The peasants are revolting!

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 07:45 PM (zu88C)

124 Trump got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

+++

bonus: he got many leftist identified evangelicals to abandon evangelism as their church identity after he won.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at January 13, 2017 07:46 PM (U0lQa)

125 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (EnKk6)

And Eris doesn't miss a beat!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:46 PM (wCEn4)

126 The peasants are revolting!

They stink on ice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 13, 2017 07:46 PM (LTHVh)

127 Only 6 moor days until this county goes down the toilet and persons of color will see regression backs to the 1850's when Robert F. Lee and John Stienhoffer were in charge of the Confedderacy !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (Fbj4h)

128 126
The peasants are revolting!

Deplorables every one.

-- Proud to be deplorable.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (ro5Th)

129 Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (tdv0F)
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if you ever have the chance, go to the LL Bean store in Freeport, ME. It's impressive.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (Sfs6o)

130 And Eris doesn't miss a beat!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:46 PM (wCEn4)
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Like a metronome, baby!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (EnKk6)

131 maybe, just maybe they will start to come around

Not a gambler but I'd bet the house against that.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 07:45 PM (Tyii7)

No shit.

Ruthless, how old are these people?

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (Jcg9Q)

132 So, what to do when all main factions in the power grab industry are yelling at each other to "shut up!"? If Trump treats them as badly as they have treated us?

Dare we hope that some semblance of a return to the 'rule of law' rather than the 'rule of man' might emerge?

A (middle-aged) boy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (wPiJc)

133 Wait, this is in Newsweek? What a piece of shit that rag is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2017 07:48 PM (8ZskC)

134 >> Spooks + Fools = Spools?

It was a simple typo, but hey, that works.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 07:48 PM (DW+jj)

135 Wonder if any pajama boys are holding their manhoods cheap these days.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 07:48 PM (qUNWi)

136 Ruthless, how old are these people?

They are retired, 65 and 67. They are kids to me at my grizzled old 76 -- but I am actually in better shape than either of them because they also believe that doctors are messengers of God.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (ro5Th)

137 Meh.

I think most people who weren't trying to be hipster gay advocates just saw through Hillary. It's not nearly as complicated as everyone wants to make it seem. Hillary SUCKS.

Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (pH7uT)

138 My coffee table is a spool.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (qUNWi)

139 Oh, I've been to the LL Bean Flagship store many times.
Used to love going there as a kid and buying tackle in the discount room / basement.

Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (tdv0F)

140 Cruz would not have been able to put together that coalition.

Posted by: xanax at January 13, 2017 07:19 PM (uamg/)

==================

Have to agree. Cruz was my man and to whom my money went, but I don't think he could have won the general ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (mt8X9)

141 Trump was the right man at the right time in the right place.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2017 07:22 PM (OuPAS)

Yeah. He still gets on my nerves, so I have to remind myself of what he's doing. As Kinky Friedman said about him, you never know who's gonna be the hero until the ship is sinking.

It's funny, but kind of scary too to see so much of the country still.not.getting. why he was elected. Even among those who oppose him, by now the smarter ones should be figuring out how he's playing the media and establishment.

Just look at Hollywood (ok, they are not the smarter ones, but still...). They are making utter fools of themselves and playing right into Trump's hands.

Streep made it clear to me the other night that there's NO one the establishment left hates more than a welder living in Arlen, TX, with a wife, two kids, and a crewcab pickup. They HATE!!! normal people.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (ozZau)

142 The degenerate elites and the homosexuals (Allah, but I repeat myself!) will never be satisfied until they get their catamites back...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (kP16F)

143
Donald Trump is the Johnny Cash of presidentin, I've been everywhere man, I've been everywhere.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

He won it one piece at a time and it didn't cost him a dime.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (IqV8l)

144 Lately I feel like everybody in the (self-identified-as) media is participating in an essay contest with the working title, "Understanding Why We Got Donald Trump".

So far everybody gets a C-minus.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (wPiJc)

145 Donald Trump is the Johnny Cash of presidentin, I've been everywhere man, I've been everywhere.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:41 PM (6Ll1u)
............

He will make them (MSM) hurt.

Posted by: wth at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (HgMAr)

146 131
"maybe, just maybe they will start to come around

Not a gambler but I'd bet the house against that."

Softly, softly, catchee monkey.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:51 PM (ro5Th)

147 Streep made it clear to me the other night that there's NO one the establishment left hates more than a welder living in Arlen, TX, with a wife, two kids, and a crewcab pickup. They HATE!!! normal people.
Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (ozZau)

---

And we hate them.

*shrugs*

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:51 PM (CRotO)

148 Six days? Hmm...let's see how much Oval Office decor I can cram into this here messenger bag...

Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 13, 2017 07:51 PM (Tyii7)

149 Streep made it clear to me the other night that there's NO one the establishment left hates more than a welder living in Arlen, TX, with a wife, two kids, and a crewcab pickup. They HATE!!! normal people.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (ozZau)

Always need to remember that when they rag on Trump, they're really ragging on us.

They hate Trump, therefore they hate us. And rest assured, we (or at least most of us) hate them right back.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:51 PM (Jcg9Q)

150 Like a metronome, baby!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 07:47 PM (EnKk6)

Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tick Tock, Tick Tock Tock, Tick Tock!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:52 PM (wCEn4)

151 Serious question.

How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?

Thoughts?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 07:52 PM (zu88C)

152 will never be satisfied until they get their catamites back...

****

Cat-a-mite. n. 1. Australian feline-based sammich spread.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 07:52 PM (wPiJc)

153 67 Wonder how many Barak administration employees will leave the country to go were a extradition isn't possible.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 07:27 PM (yx0Ld)

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Six days left to pardon Killary ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 07:53 PM (mt8X9)

154 He will make them (MSM) hurt.

Posted by: wth at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (HgMAr)

If that is the only thing he does, it will still be bigly!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:53 PM (wCEn4)

155 Streep made it clear to me the other night that there's NO one the establishment left hates more than a welder living in Arlen, TX, with a wife, two kids, and a crewcab pickup. They HATE!!! normal people.

But they love their money.

Posted by: gewa76 at January 13, 2017 07:53 PM (B6OKy)

156
Streep made it clear to me the other night that there's NO one the establishment left hates more than a welder living in Arlen, TX, with a wife, two kids, and a crewcab pickup. They HATE!!! normal people.
Posted by: stace, deplorable at last

But she wants you to buy tickets to her movies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2017 07:53 PM (IqV8l)

157 Ruthless, how old are these people?

They are retired, 65 and 67. They are kids to me at my grizzled old 76 -- but I am actually in better shape than either of them because they also believe that doctors are messengers of God.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:49 PM (ro5Th)

Ok, they're older than I am, so they've seen pretty much the same things I have.

They've had plenty of time and opportunity to get their heads out of their asses. They refuse. They've made their choice, and have sided with the enemy.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:54 PM (Jcg9Q)

158 "How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his
party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?"

We're seeing it shaping up now. The GOPe assholes in Congress are standing on a beach watching the waters recede toward the horizon and have no idea what a tsunami is going to engulf them when the Trump team goes to work on their shiny little asses.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:54 PM (ro5Th)

159 Donald Trump is the Johnny Cash of presidentin,

-------

Sooner or later God will cut you down.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:54 PM (7qAYi)

160
Cat-a-mite. n. 1. Australian feline-based sammich spread.
Posted by: Muldoon

That was in that Land Down Under song!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2017 07:54 PM (IqV8l)

161 Smitty, not that I blame you, but if you'd read some of the comments you'd see that in fact you were making the same point some of us already made, more or less. But these long threads are hard to digest and still comment in a timely manner, so I certainly don't expect you to have seen all this.

Ruthless, many of us are surrounded by otherwise smart and perfectly nice people who ..... are dangerous idiots when it comes to the votes and "opinions" (which are little more than regurgitated NPR memes and myths with zero personal understanding or certainly direct knowledge or experience applied).

There are many kinds of smart - and, therefore, many kinds of dumb. And the idiot marinade - the soup of myth, distortion, and worse that most people soak in (pop culture, media, education) - has soaked deeply into many people who in their personal or professional spheres of competence would never proceed on such ignorance.

It's the greatest inertial obstacle we face, and the main source of my continuing guarded pessimism.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 07:55 PM (QDnY+)

162 Serious question.

How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?

Thoughts?

Telease the Wikileaks.
Let the AG/DOJ investigate and go where it may.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 07:55 PM (Vddbf)

163 The LLBean store in Freeport, ME never closes -- there's not even a lock on the front door!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 13, 2017 07:55 PM (kP16F)

164 Yeah. He still gets on my nerves, so I have to remind myself of what he's doing. As Kinky Friedman said about him, you never know who's gonna be the hero until the ship is sinking.

++++

Trump will make sure we all eat our vegetables

the left wanted more chocolate cake

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (U0lQa)

165 Nobody I know would ever buy anything from LL Bean, they don't have money to blow. Carharts on the other hand!!! Eleventy reasons to buy them.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (73zup)

166 They hate Trump, therefore they hate us. And rest assured, we (or at least most of us) hate them right back.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:51 PM (Jcg9Q)

---

*waves to CB*

Looks like the 27th of this month, which is on a Friday...

Same place (Central Texas State Veterans Cemetery).

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (CRotO)

167 Lately I feel like everybody in the (self-identified-as) media is participating in an essay contest with the working title, "Understanding Why We Got Donald Trump".

So far everybody gets a C-minus.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 07:50 PM (wPiJc)

C minus is far too generous. The MFM is scrabbling to pin their losses on anything that will not implicate them. They have looked inward and found themselves to be perfect.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (nQ10o)

168 Carharts
==

70% of my wardrobe.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (zu88C)

169 They are NOT bad, just ignorant because they have been misled by the media and other influences. They are very nice people and good, reliable friends.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM (ro5Th)

I can't speak about your friends, but I cut all ties with left/liberals in my life after the 2012 election. As far as I'm concerned, they can't be trusted when push comes to shove. They could be the kind of people who would rat me out to the authorities in exchange for an increase in their chocolate ration. I won't take that chance.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (sdi6R)

170 "and have sided with the enemy."

No, they are not sided with anyone, they are doing what they think is the right thing because that is what they are told every freaking day by the MFM and the whole left-wing criminal enterprise. They have been busy having lives, not particularly aware of what's happening, and they are, once again I say, nice people. They are VICTIMS, not perpetrators of evil. We don't have to extend the blame from the top of the Demoncrat machine all the way down to ground zero.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (ro5Th)

171 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (73zup)

DiL is saying good things about Duluth Trading Company!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (wCEn4)

172 I read the article

Posted by: roscoek at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (ArkRt)

173 From the comments:

Wow. He clearly was referring to the proletariat. He said nothing about race. Many on the left are truly losing it over Trump. This is probably the consequences of PC, participation trophies and safe spaces. No coping mechanisms for adversity. Let me assure you as a Trump supporter who knows Trump supporters, aside from the fringe, no one wishes you any I'll. We just don't believe in your philosophy and policy prescriptions. By and large we agree on the problems. And when we MAGA we'll MAGA for you too.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (VdICR)

174
I've read several things about how the GOPussies in Congress are scared to death of Trump's Twitter feed. They are peeing themselves fearing Trump will get mad at them and start ripping them a new one on Twitter at 3AM one morning.

That's how he'll keep 'em line.

Get your popcorn ready with they're debating some bill Trump is pushing. Trump may live Tweet that debate, eviscerating those who oppose him.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 07:58 PM (DW+jj)

175 >>>Cat-a-mite. n. 1. Australian feline-based sammich spread.
Posted by: Muldoon

My favorite spread.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (vP09u)

176 ...they also believe that doctors are messengers of God...

*****

I would like to respond to this comment, but I've got a call coming in on the Heavenly Hot Line right now. BBL.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (wPiJc)

177 I cut all ties with left/liberals in my life after the 2012 election

Same here. At least the vocal ones, anyway.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (Tyii7)

178 They are VICTIMS, not perpetrators of evil. We don't have to extend the blame from the top of the Demoncrat machine all the way down to ground zero.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (ro5Th)

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Willful ignorance makes one a victim?

With the Internet, there's no excuse for such blatant ignorance.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (CRotO)

179 So far everybody gets a C-minus.

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Muldoon!

Do you watch FOX Business News? They get A ++. Lou Dobbs hammers the "this is why you got Trump line".

Man, it's like watching Trump win the election every night!

It'll do wonders for your blood pressure, too.

Gotta have my daily dose of Lou.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:00 PM (zu88C)

180 What you have to understand is that not everyone is focused on politics. Maybe they should be more so, but my friends have let the MFM do their thinking for them in that field and actually have not yet figured out that the media are a bunch of lying fuckers that should be marched to an appointment with Madame Guillotine. They have been victimized by the evil Demoncrat-media machine.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:00 PM (ro5Th)

181 DiL is saying good things about Duluth Trading Company!

Love them. Their khakis replaced my 5.11 khakis.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 08:01 PM (Vddbf)

182 We don't have to extend the blame from the top of the Demoncrat machine all the way down to ground zero.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (ro5Th)

A good point, the axis of evil resides mostly in the progressive movement leaders and their closest sycophants in the press, there are a lot of basically good people, that aren't energetic enough to pursue the behind the scenes treachery of the media drumbeat. They're dangerous in an election nevertheless!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:01 PM (wCEn4)

183 I truly believe that our country was so far gone that it required someone like Trump to repair the damage. Who else had even the remotest chance at success?

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 08:01 PM (nQ10o)

184 Serious question.

How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?

Thoughts?
Posted by: Mortimer

Squeeze the vulnerable members to roll on the fence-sitters.

Squeeze the vulnerable fence-sitters to sabotage the recalcitrant.

And mock the living shit of McCain, McConnel, and Ryan.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 08:01 PM (V3IFq)

185 But she wants you to buy tickets to her movies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2017 07:53 PM (IqV8l)

Sure, she'll take the money, but the guy with the bib overalls and the truck should wait until the lights go down before he goes inside.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (8ZskC)

186 I cut all ties with left/liberals in my life after the 2012 election

Same here. At least the vocal ones, anyway.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says

Same here. Life's too short to deal with idiots.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (Vddbf)

187 In any totalitarian society, "nice", "law-abiding" people will report "subversive activity" to the authorities, because they believe that it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

188 *waves to CB*

Looks like the 27th of this month, which is on a Friday...

Same place (Central Texas State Veterans Cemetery).

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:56 PM (CRotO)

*waves to SMFH*

Duly noted. Fridays are good.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (Jcg9Q)

189 Mortimer, many answers to your question.

One of which involves maneuver, as opposed to brute force.

Mass illegal migration (and oh I wish someone would convince Trump to make that one word change), for example.

"Ryan moves to protect 'Dreamers', blah blah blah".

Ignore. Enforce existing law, with a sensible tactical touch, and the "Dreamer" issue can be left to languish for a while. It's a relatively small matter in the larger picture.

Judicial and appropriations hammer brought to bear on all "sanctuary" lawlessness, at state and municipal level.*

Consultations/warnings to large known systematic users of illegal labor, followed by strict enforcement (raids and deportations).

Re-institution of normal procedures at the border - return to Mexico, detention, no shipment around the US, no "re-unification" of illegal minors with illegal adults.

Border barrier construction on a Manhattan Project basis (fast, budget of "whatever you need")*.

Of these actions, only * require some congressional cooperation, which is likely in both cases. Taken together, the change in the pool temperature will produce results that will make your head spin, guaranteed.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 08:03 PM (QDnY+)

190 They are VICTIMS

No offense intended but that sounds like it came right out of the lefty playbook.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:03 PM (Tyii7)

191 How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?

I don't know how a Congress-turd in a moderately conservative district could afford to have Trump tweeting negative things about him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2017 08:03 PM (8ZskC)

192
Sooner or later God will cut you down.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 07:54 PM (7qAYi)

Ain't no political grave can hold him down.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 13, 2017 08:04 PM (S2V6F)

193 151 Serious question.

How can a motivated and ass kicking President, the nominal head of his party, beat the Congressional members of his party into submission?

Thoughts?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 07:52 PM (zu88C)

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If you're with me, I'll campaign for you in your next election ... and if you're against me, I'll campaign even harder against you?

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 08:04 PM (mt8X9)

194 "With the Internet, there's no excuse for such blatant ignorance."

No, but not everyone digs around in the Internet like we do. And, voila, that makes them ill-informed without realizing it. That worm is turning as more and more people move that way. One of my friends, the female one and the one with a doctorate, heard something about Pizzagate the other day and asked me what that was all about. I sent her a link to the "what we know so far" website. She may or may not have watched it, but I have not heard anything from her about the left since. Again, softly, softly, catchee monkey. All out war against innocent victims of this immense and decades-long program of disinformation is not the way to go. Keep your good friends, for goodness sake, and try to gently steer them to awareness.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:04 PM (ro5Th)

195 I cut all ties with left/liberals in my life after the 2012 election

Same here. At least the vocal ones, anyway.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says

Same here. Life's too short to deal with idiots.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (Vddbf)

I tried to be patient, but I'm done. Already done some culling. Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:04 PM (Jcg9Q)

196 ...GOPussies in Congress ...
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 07:58 PM (DW+jj)

I love poetry, even if it doesn't rhyme!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:04 PM (wCEn4)

197 Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:43 PM

*I dropped a mention when they found that a contractor was too busy to
come running that ever since the election the builders are busy and the
public's optimism has soared.*

I see what you mean about hoping it becomes self evident to them that the economy is getting better just on the hope of Trump.

My experience with their sort however is that they become annoyed when a contractor has a lot of business and doesn't get his ass out there in 2 hoiurs after being called. For them it is better if he has few prospects.

Posted by: cfomahm at January 13, 2017 08:05 PM (RfzVr)

198 135 Wonder if any pajama boys are holding their manhoods cheap these days.
Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 07:48 PM (qUNWi)

+++

I took another gander at the pajama boy with the mug of cocoa the other day. I had forgotten what a effeminate wuss model they had used to promote Obamacare. My gawd. And they got away with it.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 13, 2017 08:05 PM (Ivjge)

199 Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life.

Posted by: Country Boy

*****

Ditto. 3 out of my 6 brothers.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 08:06 PM (wPiJc)

200 In any totalitarian society, "nice", "law-abiding" people will report "subversive activity" to the authorities, because they believe that it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

I have Obama and Hillary-loving coworkers who claim to be Christian.

I have no doubt they will turn on me if/when the time comes.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:06 PM (Jcg9Q)

201 "No offense intended but that sounds like it came right out of the lefty playbook."

No offense taken, but when lefties say it they are focused on gun-clinging, Bible clutching Redneck deplorables, not ill-informed and perfectly nice in every other way members of society who have fallen for the Alinsky tactics because they are just not interested in the political clown show.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:06 PM (ro5Th)

202 Kuhl 'Ryder' Pants
Smartwool Merino Under
Ibex Wool Over

That's about 85% of my wardrobe.

Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2017 08:06 PM (tdv0F)

203 Vegemite and Marmite have the shelf-life of gravel! Catamite, on the other hand...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at January 13, 2017 08:07 PM (kP16F)

204 They hate Trump, therefore they hate us. And rest assured, we (or at least most of us) hate them right back.
...

I'm convinced that's what most of this climate change garbage is about. It's ok for them to fly everywhere on G-5s, but that middle class guy in Arlen shouldn't own a truck or SUV for taking his kids to the state park to go fishing. They hate us and want to control us.

We all know this of course.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at January 13, 2017 08:07 PM (ozZau)

205 **snicker**

garrett wears pants!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 08:07 PM (wPiJc)

206 "-a rich, voluble, egomaniacal, middle-aged pussy hound... "

In short, the dream of every guy over 40.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:07 PM (SRKgf)

207 Have you ever had the experience of making a sarcastic ranting riff about some wacko topic, like chemtrails maybe, and having your friend then enthusiastically take it up seriously, like Holy Cow that's what I say all the time! And then you're like mumbleI was jokingmumble

Yeah, well, that's how I sniff out leftards now.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:08 PM (U0lQa)

208 Willful ignorance makes one a victim?

With the Internet, there's no excuse for such blatant ignorance.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (CRotO)

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Exactly. As Ayn Rand noted: "Evasion is the root of all evil."

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 08:08 PM (mt8X9)

209 Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

And they get the original chocolate ration!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:08 PM (wCEn4)

210 And Mortimer, another aspect: carefully coordinate your actions to put maximum pressure on Dems up in 2018 from "Trump" districts and states (10 in the Senate, House number I don't know) for *key* votes.

McCain and Graham are safe in their seats (not up soon), and I don't think there's any downward limit on the stupid and irresponsible crap they will pull any longer. So you have to write them off.

Ryan's a different challenge. It comes down to energizing the caucus enough that Ryan has no choice. That would take different forms, and could be the biggest legislative/political challenge.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 08:08 PM (QDnY+)

211 I have a young niece who has gone over to the dark side but I've loved her dearly since she was a wee baby and I just can't break that tie. Other than that, hasta la vista, baby.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (Tyii7)

212 Liberals are doubling down. My mom is losing her mind over the far left crazies shoving around their weight for this stupid women's March.

"No one cares about all these trannies!" She told me, exasperated, yesterday.

I told her she needed to get more woke.

Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (WezLu)

213 They are VICTIMS, not perpetrators of evil. We don't have to extend the blame from the top of the Demoncrat machine all the way down to ground zero.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 07:57 PM (ro5Th)

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Willful ignorance makes one a victim?

With the Internet, there's no excuse for such blatant ignorance.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:59 PM (CRotO)

A-fucking-men.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (Jcg9Q)

214 **snicker**

garrett wears pants!

Ryder pants are assless, I believe. Assless is Moron-approved.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (8ZskC)

215 "Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life."

No, this is not life. Politics is not the whole meaning and purpose of life. As I do, you could simply block off that particular part of your relationships and keep the lines of communications open with those who are ill-informed and (perhaps, or not) stupid. If they attack you, you don't have to go all Defcon Five. Change the subject and keep your powder dry, wait to see what happens when we do not have an absolute insane narcissist in the White House. Things are going to change. And, yes, we are going to see a lot of crazy, but only by a small majority of the truly stupid.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (ro5Th)

216 195 I cut all ties with left/liberals in my life after the 2012 election
Same here. At least the vocal ones, anyway.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says
Same here. Life's too short to deal with idiots.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (
I tried to be patient, but I'm done. Already done some culling. Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life.
--------------
^^^^This^^^^ is one of the main reasons that I am extraditing myself from all the volunteer work I do at the school. They think I'm a deplorable uneducated racist and I think they are vile idiot drones. So we're even.

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (JNDQi)

217 "Willful ignorance makes one a victim?"

Who knows?

Posted by: Bliss at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (BO/km)

218 As someone on here said. With Trump love him or hate him deep down you know he loves America. The same can't be said for Obama or Hillary.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (dKiJG)

219 We taught the left that we would quietly put up with ridicule, mockery and subjugation. We would eagerly adopt their new words. We would tolerate the worship wrongdoers, and the sneering at law-abiding citizens. We allowed ourselves to be called racist and deplorable.

I think many of us are done. We are not "going along" any more. It will take our captors a while to figure that out. They are starting to realize that they are the ones on the other side of the fence now.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (nQ10o)

220 Sorry the crazies are pushing you out of the school stuff, Linda.

Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (WezLu)

221 The American elite, I am afraid to say, is almost beyond redemption. Moral relativism has set in so deeply that the gilded classes have become incapable of discerning right from wrong. Everything can be explained away, especially by journalists. Life is one great moral mush - sophistry washed down with Chardonnay.

- Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, 1997

Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (Ya7zs)

222 @96: "Enemies to be dealt with at the appropriate time."

And in the appropriate manner - therein lies the rub. At most, they will only be treated like opponents, not enemies. That's why they are always able to rebound.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (rznWS)

223 I really hate to admit it but our government, at the local, state and national levels are corrupt as hell, for the most part legal corruption but corrupt none the less.

Posted by: Javems at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (yOqwj)

224 211 I have a young niece who has gone over to the dark side but I've loved her dearly since she was a wee baby and I just can't break that tie. Other than that, hasta la vista, baby.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (Tyii7)

---

Both my daughters have bought into the "Trump is the Devil" along with the rest of my family.

Oh well, guess I'll be loving them from a distance, as I do my parents and siblings.

Used to sadden me. Not anymore.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (CRotO)

225 Liberals are doubling down. My mom is losing her mind over the far left crazies shoving around their weight for this stupid women's March.

"No one cares about all these trannies!" She told me, exasperated, yesterday.

I told her she needed to get more woke.
Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (WezLu)

You people are very lucky. All my relatives are libby's and i work with mostly liberals. In every weekly status meeting between me and my boss he never fails to take one shot at Trump or some conservative.

Posted by: StrawMan at January 13, 2017 08:12 PM (lidp8)

226 As someone on here said. With Trump love him or hate him deep down you know he loves America. The same can't be said for Obama or Hillary.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (dKiJG)

And you know, on his worst day, he'll be at least 1000x better for the country (and you) than Hillary or Obama!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:12 PM (wCEn4)

227 for shits and giggles I sometimes scan CNN and MSNBC. They are do nothing but trying to delegitimize PE Trump. And it is ALL coordinated. They are all playing off go that cock sucker Lewis.

Fuck em: WAR

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:12 PM (SjImc)

228 207 Have you ever had the experience of making a sarcastic ranting riff about some wacko topic, like chemtrails maybe, and having your friend then enthusiastically take it up seriously, like Holy Cow that's what I say all the time! And then you're like mumbleI was jokingmumble

Yeah, well, that's how I sniff out leftards now.
Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:08 PM (U0lQa)

Once during the Bush era, I was taking the train home & was sitting next to a woman from work. She mentioned to me that Bush was building a secret base on Mars for he & his cronies to hide after he was done destroying the planet. And she wasn't being sarcastic.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:13 PM (7qAYi)

229 James O'Keefe
@JamesOKeefeIII
So much #fakenews and make believe bs circulating... time for some real news substantiated by video. Announcement later today. #Veritas

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (y3aQB)

230 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:12 PM (SjImc)

But, he's a Civil Rights Hero First Class!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (wCEn4)

231 211 I have a young niece who has gone over to the dark side but I've loved her dearly since she was a wee baby and I just can't break that tie. Other than that, hasta la vista, baby.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (Tyii7)

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Ask her -- or even pay her -- to start watching and writing a paragraph or two on Prager University 5-minute videos ... could possibly bring her around.

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (mt8X9)

232 Hawks v Caps has been like Monkey v Deer so far...

Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (tdv0F)

233 I'm sure it's been mentioned, but you don't get to spend decades making sex and sexuality worthless and none-of-your-business-ey before turning around and trying to slut shame someone for sex and sexuality you disagree with.

You created Trump in so many more ways than the obvious "reaction to Obama" one, (D)s.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (qnfJM)

234 I think many of us are done. We are not "going along" any more. It will take our captors a while to figure that out. They are starting to realize that they are the ones on the other side of the fence now.
Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (nQ10o

I make a point of "othering" them, to use their term. I contrast "loyal Americans" with "liberals," and offhandedly insult their intelligence (i.e., in comments not directed to them, but to third parties, as though this was generally recognized fact). I laugh at some of their positions, and implicitly characterize them as antediluvian ("Great point. Which reminds me, where did I put my bellbottoms?")

Liberals are exquisitely sensitive to such social disapprobation, and it's great fun to make up such slights.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (SRKgf)

235 You have to understand that my friends I have been discussing are NOT political people. They do not push their misguided understandings on anyone. If I do not bring up any political subjects (which I do not), they do not either. It is just not a subject that comes into our relationship. If they were rabid in-your-face leftist idiots, that would be a different story. They are not. They are good friends with whom I cannot discuss politics. There are many like that and unless we really want civil way v.2.0, we need to get along with our friends and relatives and hope that in the span of time ahead they will begin to see the light. They have been subject to decades of deceit and criminal propaganda, and let's put the blame where it belongs.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (ro5Th)

236 Once during the Bush era, I was taking the train home & was sitting next to a woman from work. She mentioned to me that Bush was building a secret base on Mars for he & his cronies to hide after he was done destroying the planet. And she wasn't being sarcastic.
Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:13 PM (7qAYi)

Did she smell of Value-Rite and wear an ewok costume?

Posted by: StrawMan at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (lidp8)

237 Once during the Bush era, I was taking the train home & was sitting next to a woman from work. She mentioned to me that Bush was building a secret base on Mars for he & his cronies to hide after he was done destroying the planet. And she wasn't being sarcastic.
Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:13 PM (7qAYi)
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Every time I wonder if my tether to reality is getting slack, I read something like this and realize just how vanilla my mental quirks are.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (EnKk6)

238 They are VICTIMS, not perpetrators of evil. We don't have to extend the blame from the top of the Demoncrat machine all the way

====

You do realise they don't return that towards you? They view all GOP voters as perpetrators of evil and thus fair game.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (U0lQa)

239 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:13 PM (7qAYi)

Why do you think they keep funding NASA?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:16 PM (wCEn4)

240 221 The American elite, I am afraid to say, is almost beyond redemption. Moral relativism has set in so deeply that the gilded classes have become incapable of discerning right from wrong. Everything can be explained away, especially by journalists. Life is one great moral mush - sophistry washed down with Chardonnay.

- Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, 1997
Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (Ya7zs)

Chardonnay? Why not just order Bud Light & get it over with?

Posted by: American Elites at January 13, 2017 08:16 PM (7qAYi)

241 But, he's a Civil Rights Hero First Class!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (wCEn4)

And some other cock sucker was a War Hero: ANCIENT HISTORY.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:17 PM (SjImc)

242 Think I'll do some reloading tomorrow. I have a bunch of prepped brass in .30-06 and the forecast is for sleet or freezing rain until the afternoon.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:17 PM (Sfs6o)

243

I make a point of "othering" them, to use their term. I contrast "loyal Americans" with "liberals," and offhandedly insult their intelligence (i.e., in comments not directed to them, but to third parties, as though this was generally recognized fact). I laugh at some of their positions, and implicitly characterize them as antediluvian ("Great point. Which reminds me, where did I put my bellbottoms?")

Liberals are exquisitely sensitive to such social disapprobation, and it's great fun to make up such slights.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (SRKgf)

I respond in the same way to "liberals." It is not intentional. It is a visceral reaction.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 08:17 PM (nQ10o)

244 231 211 I have a young niece who has gone over to the dark side but I've loved her dearly since she was a wee baby and I just can't break that tie. Other than that, hasta la vista, baby.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:09 PM (Tyii7)
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Ask her -- or even pay her -- to start watching and writing a paragraph or two on Prager University 5-minute videos ... could possibly bring her around.
Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2017 08:14 PM (mt8X9)

Frankly, that's too obvious. Instead, force her to address and resolve the myriad contradictions in leftist politics.

Use method acting, and adopt the demeanor of an PBS newsreader (i.e., anodyne diction, constipated expression) when confronting her with such contradictions (e.g., that between feminist ideology and Islamic social mores).

The trick is to keep a straight face.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:18 PM (SRKgf)

245 239 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:13 PM (7qAYi)

Why do you think they keep funding NASA?
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:16 PM (wCEn4)

Anyway, everybody knows the Bushes refurbished the secret Nazi base in Neuschwabenland.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 08:18 PM (EnKk6)

246 SMFH, and Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends

"Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life."

Mine isn't dead to me; it's more like I'm dead to them. But I still try to show them some love.

BUT, I'm looking for my tribe, and that's part of why I'm here.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 08:18 PM (G7LgH)

247 The place I do Rehab at always has "the Today Show" or good morning America, I'm not sure which it is, I just know it's unwatchable. I wear my earbuds and watch my iPhone instead. The kid that works there said today that it's sad that next Friday is the JEF's last day....I just walked away. I'm proud of myself for that!

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 08:18 PM (JNDQi)

248 Good answers , rhomboid and others. You guys are seriously smart.

I really think that is the kind of stuff we can discuss here and have it work it's way into policy.
I saw too many coincidences during the election when Trump's campaign, especially Kellyanne, would repeat some moron's paraphrased point or comment almost verbatim. If I were a strategist I would be mining this site for ideas on how to achieve political goals. I think that the words that get typed here do get the attention of those who matter more often than we know.

As badly as I , like Rush, wanted Obama to fail, I want Trump to succeed. You don't have to love the guy but you have to love his vision of a hardworking, prosperous, self sufficient America.

So keep spitballing, morons. In between the accidental busty lesbian porn and Roethlisberger jokes, there is a lot of brain power going on here.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:19 PM (zu88C)

249 First rule of secret Mars base?
You don't talk about secret Mars base!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 08:19 PM (wPiJc)

250 Only certain people don't know what chaps are used for, do you? Or are they only for the gay pride parade? History is your best friend.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 13, 2017 08:19 PM (73zup)

251 I have my libtard in-laws convinced that I'm dangerously unstable so they go out of their way not to upset me on those rare occasions we're in the same room.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:20 PM (Sfs6o)

252 Fuck em: WAR

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:12 PM (SjImc)

No. That's too nice. Fuck em: RIDICULE.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:20 PM (SRKgf)

253 I think what Mr Wolff has written is quite damning: straight white men risk all the social progress we have made just because they feel the need to turn an election into a primal scream therapy session. I cant imagine that people on the right actually regard an analyses like this as being flattering.

Posted by: Emma Tiller (Oberlin) at January 13, 2017 08:20 PM (VSXuz)

254 Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM

*There are many like that and unless we really want civil way v.2.0, we
need to get along with our friends and relatives and hope that in the
span of time ahead they will begin to see the light. They have been
subject to decades of deceit and criminal propaganda, and let's put the
blame where it belongs.*

OK, you need to change your nic. You are not ruthless at all. /

Posted by: cfomahm at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (RfzVr)

255 "Probably half my family is dead to me now. Such is life."

No, this is not life. Politics is not the whole meaning and purpose of life. As I do, you could simply block off that particular part of your relationships and keep the lines of communications open with those who are ill-informed and (perhaps, or not) stupid. If they attack you, you don't have to go all Defcon Five. Change the subject and keep your powder dry, wait to see what happens when we do not have an absolute insane narcissist in the White House. Things are going to change. And, yes, we are going to see a lot of crazy, but only by a small majority of the truly stupid.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (ro5Th)

Yes, this is life now.

This is life now because this is what the Prog scum have made it. I didn't ask for it, I don't want it, I wish it was different. It isn't. And as we all can see, it isn't going to change with a new sheriff in town.

I didn't ask to play this game. I just wanted to be left alone. The scum won't leave me alone, ever. I have to bake cakes for their fags. I have to fund the murder of unborn children. I have to pay for Muslim terrorists to be imported into this country who will then kill me. I'm done. It ain't happening.

I have to play the hand I'm dealt. The Prog scum have nearly taken over the country. The Prog scum will not rest until I have been beaten into submission. After Trump is gone, they will probably take over for good.

My relatives, friends, associates who support these scum are The Enemy. As a Christian, I am called to resist the Devil and fight evil. Whether you are evil or support evil is irrelevant in the end.

These scum are like Terminators: they can't be reasoned with, negotiated with, talked to, nothing. They are hell bent on destroying people like me.

There may be a few who are still "ignorant," but they are a very few. Most people in 2017 know what they are supporting. That includes your friends, whether you see it or not.

The lines have been drawn in the Civil War: Progressives and Muslims vs. Christians and conservatives. This is war.

War is coming to America. It may not happen in your lifetime, but it's coming. Deny it at your own risk.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)

256 Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)
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What he said.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:22 PM (Sfs6o)

257 Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (ro5Th)

I get ya, Ruthless. It's a different situation with everyone. I have close friends and relatives who voted differently, but they don't treat me like shit over it, or I them. We're not that far apart on the issues anyway.

At the same time, like lindafell, I would't stick around and do volunteer stuff with people who're ugly and extreme about their views, and always injecting them where they don't belong.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at January 13, 2017 08:23 PM (ozZau)

258 In any totalitarian society, "nice", "law-abiding" people will report
"subversive activity" to the authorities, because they believe that it's
the right thing to do.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

======

Scientology has a thing called a "knowledge report" where members rat out friends and family members, even children, parents and spouses for so-called "crimes" against Scientology.

This came from Hubbard's looney statement that 100% of people that criticize Scientology have committed some sort of crime.

The parallels between these Scientology cultists and the militant left cultists are eerie.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:23 PM (zu88C)

259 War is coming to America. It may not happen in your lifetime, but it's coming. Deny it at your own risk.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)

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Yep.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (CRotO)

260

Trump Has Upset the Establishment By Letting Them Know Their Station and Status are Not Secure

But, in every revolution, is this not the lot of the Useful Idiots?

Posted by: Arbalest at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (FlRtG)

261 253 I think what Mr Wolff has written is quite damning: straight white men risk all the social progress we have made just because they feel the need to turn an election into a primal scream therapy session. I cant imagine that people on the right actually regard an analyses like this as being flattering.
Posted by: Emma Tiller (Oberlin) at January 13, 2017 08:20 PM (VSXuz)

Dear Emma,

Two questions.

First, do you know what "begging the question" means?

Second, where the fuck is my sammich?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (SRKgf)

262 We taught the left that we would quietly put up with ridicule, mockery and subjugation. We would eagerly adopt their new words. We would tolerate the worship wrongdoers, and the sneering at law-abiding citizens. We allowed ourselves to be called racist and deplorable.

I think many of us are done. We are not "going along" any more. It will take our captors a while to figure that out. They are starting to realize that they are the ones on the other side of the fence now.

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Yes. I think maybe Team Evil will collapse more suddenly than anyone thinks. Their best ally, the media, went Kamikaze during the election. They didn't sink USS Trump but they did eviscerate themselves. The utter nonsense coming out of academia is, to use the parlance of our times, unsustainable. The first crack in the facade and the entire fraud may go full Humpty Dumpty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (Nwg0u)

263 They view all GOP voters as perpetrators of evil and thus fair game."

No, they don't. Remember, they are nice people and good friends in very way. It's just that they don't really pay attention to the political world and get their "news" from places like CNN and NPR. The idea that they are "fair game" reeks of the Obamanation's proclamation that "they" (meaning us) are the enemy and that "they" (meaning whoever is a crazy activist Alinsky follower of the Demoncrap herd) should bring a gun to a knife fight. Yes, he did say that, and my friends are not crazy activists, as are a vast majority of the people who voted for that asshole.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (ro5Th)

264 "Politics is not all of life".

Indubitably true. Well, in principle.

In historical America - where govt. was not all or most of life, where the public sector did not affect or control or intervene in most parts of life - almost completely true.

When for the first time in your life are unable to afford health insurance due to govt. meddling; when you know people who have given health, limb, or life in successful foreign operations whose fruits are then simply tossed away; when for no good reason at all you can't buy a firearm you'd like, or ammunition at an actual market price; when the cost of innumerable things affecting your standard of living are boosted wildly by utterly baseless regulatory interference; when you can't buy an incandescent light bulb, or get a "single use" plastic bag at the grocery store (which you used to use in multiple other ways and for up to several years); when you can't refuse a non-essential service to someone simply based on deep personal belief; when you are expected to support govt. employees in an unsustainably (and obscenely) lavish manner, regardless of tax burden; when you have to waste work time sitting listening to dumb racists lecture you on "diversity" when you've been naturally free of any bigotry for longer than they've been alive; when you have to hope the illegals at the Home Depot parking lot are not particularly drunk or ornery today so they don't almost cause you to be involved in a serious car accident at the entrance .....

Then ....... politics *IS* all of life - or close enough to be intolerable.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (QDnY+)

265 My family have very thick skulls, so they will have to learn the hard way.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:25 PM (CRotO)

266 For me ...This originally was not even about trump, he was the none of the above candidate, the fuck the establishment candidate, that is why he got a pass on every fuckup week after week...it didnt matter what he said because people weren't FOR him they were AGAINST everyone else.... But now people are buying into his message....he has the possibility of being a real kick ass president

Posted by: E.T. at January 13, 2017 08:25 PM (9n0dl)

267 Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)
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What he said.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:22 PM (Sfs6o)

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (CRotO)

Oh how I wish I could argue that point!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:25 PM (wCEn4)

268 255.
Yeah. Unfortunately, I have known this all along.

Posted by: Martell at January 13, 2017 08:26 PM (BqV6r)

269 Yes. I think maybe Team Evil will collapse more suddenly than anyone thinks. Their best ally, the media, went Kamikaze during the election. They didn't sink USS Trump but they did eviscerate themselves. The utter nonsense coming out of academia is, to use the parlance of our times, unsustainable. The first crack in the facade and the entire fraud may go full Humpty Dumpty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 13, 2017 08:24 PM (Nwg0u)

So ... kinda like their spiritual home, the late USSR then?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:26 PM (SRKgf)

270 @96: "Enemies to be dealt with at the appropriate time."

And in the appropriate manner - therein lies the rub. At most, they will only be treated like opponents, not enemies. That's why they are always able to rebound.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at January 13, 2017 08:11 PM (rznWS)

That's gonna change one of these days.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:27 PM (Jcg9Q)

271 266 For me ...This originally was not even about trump, he was the none of the above candidate, the fuck the establishment candidate, that is why he got a pass on every fuckup week after week...it didnt matter what he said because people weren't FOR him they were AGAINST everyone else.... But now people are buying into his message....he has the possibility of being a real kick ass president
Posted by: E.T. at January 13, 2017 08:25 PM (9n0dl)

Agree with the last part. As for the first, it's hard to have a full sense of the story without reading Scott Adams, who predicted his victory purely on the grounds of "this is the greatest natural Persuader I've ever seen." Reading his posts closely, I understand Trump a whole lot better than almost anyone in the MSM, which is not saying much, but it's something.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:28 PM (iMxBJ)

272 "War is coming to America. It may not happen in your lifetime"

I have known the bad times would come since forever, but I always thought it would be after my time on Earth was past. Now I am 76 and thinking, uh oh! But my pessimism is greatly assuaged by the Trump triumph. For the first time in quite a while I think maybe, beyond all unlikelihood, the Titanic may just slowly turn away from the iceberg. *Crosses fingers and toes*

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:28 PM (ro5Th)

273 RobLowe
13/01/17 20:07
The head of a major Hollywood studio stepping down to basically run Snapchat, tells you all you need to know about the state of movies today

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 13, 2017 08:29 PM (y3aQB)

274 Scientology has a thing called a "knowledge report" where members rat out friends and family members, even children, parents and spouses for so-called "crimes" against Scientology.

This came from Hubbard's looney statement that 100% of people that criticize Scientology have committed some sort of crime.

The parallels between these Scientology cultists and the militant left cultists are eerie.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:23 PM (zu88C)

And this is why for the First time I have not given money to a Republican candidate, because these assholes would come after me and my family. Hell somebody had a Twitter account that tweeted home address and occupation of people that Donated to Trump.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:29 PM (dKiJG)

275 Interesting that the elites get freedom of association but the rest of us don't.

As for language, you hear far worse if you work in factories. In fact, I had a friend that worked construction. She had problems going to parent/teacher conferences because she couldn't talk without saying f**k in every sentence.

I think people that didn't go into the election with a closed mind could see Trump working his ass off, flying all over the country and doing multiple rallies. You had Hillary dialing it in. We have lots of women in powerful positions these days. And frankly, a lot of them are not very impressive.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (v9gSJ)

276 rhomboid, 264 is as stirring as the Declaration of Independence, to me.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (G7LgH)

277 "Every time I wonder if my tether to reality is getting slack, I read something like this and realize just how vanilla my mental quirks are.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2017 08:15 PM (EnKk6)"

If not for the interference of teh Welfare State funding awesomeness of (the somewhat) Free Market Capitalism, these miscreants would all be dead.

Capitalism sucks............ :-)

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (Pd7Sl)

278 And this is why for the First time I have not given money to a Republican candidate, because these assholes would come after me and my family. Hell somebody had a Twitter account that tweeted home address and occupation of people that Donated to Trump.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:29 PM (dKiJG)

Fuck 'em. Send cash.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)

279 See y'all later on the ONT. I'm gonna go soak in an epsom salt bath for a while to recuperate from the active day I had.

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (JNDQi)

280 Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)
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What he said.

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Right. When somebody wants to kill you, what on earth is there to discuss?

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (U0lQa)

281 "And mock the living shit of McCain, McConnel, and Ryan."

McCain needs more than a mocking and Trump is just the guy to do it. I don't think old John has any idea of what kind of a shit storm he made for himself when he got involved in the fake dossier "scandal". I doubt Trump is going to forget it.

Posted by: Tuna at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (JSovD)

282 War is coming to America. It may not happen in your lifetime, but it's coming. Deny it at your own risk.
Posted by: Country Boy

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Yep.
Posted by: SMFH

- There's no art in predicting another war in the future. It's terribly easy.

- We are too tempted to see war and disaster around every corner. Most of history is actually boring.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 08:31 PM (V3IFq)

283 Right. When somebody wants to kill you, what on earth is there to discuss?

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:30 PM (U0lQa)

His funeral arrangements.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:32 PM (SRKgf)

284 So somewhat OT, but not entirely...

I logged on FB for the first time since early December to join the group for my community garden association. My feed is FILLED with pro Obama, anti Trump junk (save for a few sane voices). Even a friend, a restaurant owner who normally is only vaguely political on occasion, is saying Trump's speech reminds him of "Animal Farm". A friend, Mark, was a technology advisor to the White House and posted pics of cupcakes with the Presidential seal and a near tearful ode to his good friends and colleagues. Lamentations of 'Oh I will miss his easily read speeches' and all sorts of other cloying shit clogs my feed from almost everyone, and the one guy who posted a Cruz video taking the Dems to task for keeping silent got one pro comment and another guy harassing him.

Our 'team' is going to be in power but I don't FEEL nearly in power. A girlfriend who works at a big software company keeps silent for fear of retribution, (she's a republican), esp. after a memo circulated about how 'women might feel fear after the election' posted by a women's group. I know some of the lamentations and postings are due to reasons the linked article Ace posted listed - the 'resetting', the plebs have a champion - but it seems more fevered than that. Some of these people have never directly been part of the elite order the left establishment have tried to create.

The inauguration is a week away, and I have a feeling the divide and anger are going to get worse.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at January 13, 2017 08:32 PM (Gim9y)

285 Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)

Great comment.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:32 PM (sdi6R)

286 258 This came from Hubbard's looney statement that 100% of people that criticize Scientology have committed some sort of crime.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:23 PM (zu88C)

I don't remember his exact statement, but it was more lurid than that. Something like "blood crimes." Which doesn't disturb your thesis at all.

They are acting like Trump is uniquely evil, a malevolent force that all good people must rise against, because...

Well, they're short on "because." He doesn't even have the job yet, and they don't seem to be paying attention to what he has done (appoint a whole bunch of carefully-selected, super-competent people) AT ALL. He's just evil, because something.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:33 PM (iMxBJ)

287 278 And this is why for the First time I have not given money to a Republican candidate, because these assholes would come after me and my family. Hell somebody had a Twitter account that tweeted home address and occupation of people that Donated to Trump.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:29 PM (dKiJG)

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I donated to Trump.

Paid by cc.

I wish a motherfucker would come after me.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:33 PM (CRotO)

288 I have my libtard in-laws convinced that I'm dangerously unstable so
they go out of their way not to upset me on those rare occasions we're
in the same room.

Heh. An old friend invited me to their Christmas party two years ago and I quickly ascertained that the crowd was mostly lefty. As the night wore on, my "friend" (now past tense) drunkenly proclaimed that I was a firearms enthusiast and began quizzing me on how many I owned, etc. Of course, I deflected but you should have seen the look of horror on many of the progtard faces. I was basically shunned by most the rest of the evening. It was priceless.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:33 PM (Tyii7)

289 booknlass you are too kind, far too kind.

Actually a longer, more refined, and "punched-up" list of grievances making the point is something I've long meant to do.

But Weasel reminded me, inadvertently, that I've got some 38 special reloading to do (trying to use up a bottle of Trail Boss). Love light revolver loads - you can see the powder in the case easily, being precisely consistent on the charge doesn't matter, and even overall length and some of the sizing doesn't matter too much.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 13, 2017 08:34 PM (QDnY+)

290 282.
Not war overseas.
War here. At home.
Big difference.

Posted by: Martell at January 13, 2017 08:35 PM (BqV6r)

291 The idea that they are "fair game" reeks of the Obamanation's proclamation that "they" (meaning us) are the enemy

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Which is what I wrote. They view us as fair game. You flipped the subject/object. Look, nevermind. Your friends are angels. You made your point, we made ours. I don't care.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:36 PM (U0lQa)

292 The stupid.
It burns.
Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 07:18

Indeed, inside Juan Williams' brain. Today he was esp stupid. Just when I think he can't get any dumber, he proves me wrong.

How you doing these days? You sound pretty good lately. You have been in my prayers w/ others here who have faced personal loss lately.

Posted by: Farmer at January 13, 2017 08:37 PM (o/90i)

293 Preach it, Country Boy!

Well said.

Posted by: Sixkiller at January 13, 2017 08:38 PM (BiXfR)

294 TeeHee. We all need to study some general psychology. For the LIV dem voters; reality vs what they were told is like what that stupid climate propaganda training seminar was saying. They feel like the problem is too big to even comprehend let alone fix. We have to engage their affect and get them into a receptive frame of mind for them to even think about searching out internet news sources that will link i.e. Daily Mail that tell some facts that U.S. media bury.

And I have some sympathy for how hard it is emotionally/mentally for those people because in 2008-2009 I went from thinking "the media is biased to Dems in how they phrase things but I know how to calibrate for this" to realizing the full extent to which they were burying any story negative to a Dem and making shit up to smear conservatives and it rocked my psyche. And that was with knowing the FNM were sympathetic to the Dems. Has to be an even bigger jolt for folks that have been thinking for decades that the media are neutral.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 13, 2017 08:38 PM (dkExz)

295 Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:21 PM (Jcg9Q)

Great comment.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:32 PM (sdi6R)

Thank you.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 08:40 PM (Jcg9Q)

296 that same pussy talk that shocked cosmopolitans turns out not to be of much concern, and even to express a casual day-to-day reality, for many Americans....
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I'm still amused how this "upset" the left-o-sphere.

That women like powerful men is a simple fact, and will react more positively to flirting from such a man is known to everyone.

Hell, SNL had a skit a few years ago where Tom Brady and a nervous, fat, ugly comedian try to navigate workplace sexual harassment rules. It turns out Tom Brady can grab his coworkers by the kitty whereas the other man gets busted by HR for merely saying hello to his female coworkers.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2017 08:40 PM (aZq03)

297 282.
Not war overseas.
War here. At home.
Big difference.
Posted by: Martell

Considering there's no end date on a prediction for war here, no, it's exactly the same.

Or maybe we should ask the pre-clovis about it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 08:41 PM (V3IFq)

298 War could be coming but not sure who is going to start it first. Muzzies fresh out of the middle east? BLM expanding their attacks or Leftists but they largely are unarmed and prefer lawfare over warfare.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:42 PM (yx0Ld)

299 to realizing the full extent to which they were burying any story negative to a Dem and making shit up to smear conservatives and it rocked my psyche
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I think there was a general acceleration of what they were doing. The Republicans never called the fake news media on their stunts, so the FNM started doing more and more outrageous things.

If Trump successfully pushes back on the FNM he might actually force them to be more balanced...or destroy them.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2017 08:42 PM (aZq03)

300 Article is close... but misses out on one point....

We are Animals. We are part of Evolution. We are hardwired through our DNA towards certain attitudes...

The LEFT is all about trying to say that Human Nature... that the hardwiring... is false...

But when you go against your nature, you become unhappy...

And in modern society... they can't figure out WHY they are unhappy (feminists, Gays, Metro Boys, Modern Women who can't find a MAN)...

Because they will not acknowledge that we ARE animals, and are still bound by Darwinian Survival Instincts.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 13, 2017 08:42 PM (qf6WZ)

301 I put "Young Frankenstein" in my Netflix Q when Gene Wilder died & it finally arrived today!

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 08:43 PM (7qAYi)

302 Does today's Left actually perceive any difference between "being upset" and "pretending to be upset for political purposes?" The line between has grown so very thin.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:43 PM (iMxBJ)

303 War could be coming but not sure who is going to start it first.
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It looks like the left's plan has been to let Islamists and thugs run wild, and then call for ever more of a police state because of it...while not doing anything to stop the violence.

Trump taking over the execute branch has put a crimp in their plans...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2017 08:44 PM (aZq03)

304 After all the bathroom talk of mixed genders what was a little pussy grabbing talk?

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:44 PM (yx0Ld)

305 291
The idea that they are "fair game" reeks of the Obamanation's proclamation that "they" (meaning us) are the enemy

Exactly. I started to respond to that in the same way, but somehow clicked something that deleted my comment. They are OUR enemy, but that doesn't mean that everyone is our target. The true targets are the activists, not the ill-informed who don't really pay attention to this stuff. I also donated to Trump, but I learned back in 2008 to keep on the down-low, when I put a McCain (yeah, I know) sign in my yard and got my house sabotaged as a result. The experience scared my late wife so much that she was afraid to go to vote (and didn't), proving that terrorism works. But let's celebrate the fact that after a long dark night of this shit, She will never be POTUS and a new day is dawning.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:44 PM (ro5Th)

306 298 War could be coming but not sure who is going to start it first. Muzzies fresh out of the middle east? BLM expanding their attacks or Leftists but they largely are unarmed and prefer lawfare over warfare.
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:42 PM (yx0Ld)
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With an economic convulsion as a catalyst, I can see 'all of the above' as a reasonable answer.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:44 PM (Sfs6o)

307 Heh. An old friend invited me to their Christmas party two years ago and I quickly ascertained that the crowd was mostly lefty.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:33 PM (Tyii7)

I had a similar experience at a Christmas party. The host was an old friend I'd worked with back when and known for decades. I felt instantly out of place among those drinking the wine spritzers and talking about the difficulty of getting good help. Nobody said anything explicitly lefty (a first for lefties, AFAIK) but the atmosphere was unmistakably chi-chi leftist. (And this in a chi-chi leftist part of CA.)

I was surprised, because I thought I knew my friend, with whom I'd shared political views for many years. Then I saw his wife, who was incandescent with pleasure as the doyenne of the festivities, and it hit me: these are her friends.

Turns out she's a flaming lefty. I'd had no idea, any more than I know how he lives under the same roof. But my friend is the guy who (surreptitiously) turned me onto the PBS coverage of election night as a guilty pleasure.

And, yeah, you already figured out why his household was watching PBS's coverage.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:44 PM (SRKgf)

308 You guys are hashing my mellow.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (Sfs6o)

309 Oh, I also presume the real reason Hillary Clinton wanted to go to war with Russia was to make it easier to deal with the domestic political opposition.

After all we've had censorship during previous wars....so why not this one right?

And as you've already seen they've got Obama's intelligence services claiming anyone oppose to Hillary is working with the Russians. In an actual war that's a criminal offense...right?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (aZq03)

310 War, in its many manifestations, is already here.

And God truly will have to help us, because the unhinged amongst us will be something to behold...

War in the conventional sense? nope.

As in Iraq, the enemy hides the bombs, conceals them, then when a unsuspecting traveler passes by...*BOOM*

With so many about to get kicked off their gravy train, IEDs will become much more numerous, from both sides of the aisle, as well as from the mfm, who will become even more desperate in holding onto the shards of what little credibility they have left.

Interesting times, indeed.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (CRotO)

311 Splunge -- here's what i was referring to..

Hubbard in response, per his written "Ethics Technology" required Scientologists to "disconnect" from any organization or individual-including family members-deemed to be "suppressive," required writing of "Knowledge Reports" on each other stating transgressions of punishable "Misdemeanors," "Crimes" and "High Crimes," all familiar with Synanon's directive to "cope out" on each other and disconnect from "splitees." The "Fair Game" policy was introduced, (Scientology claimed later it was withdrawn) directing a suppressive... "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (zu88C)

312 Hashing = harshing

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:46 PM (Sfs6o)

313 TS Baby. There is a new sheriff in town--and he's already eaten his wafles.

Posted by: Skeptical Voter at January 13, 2017 08:46 PM (Sda6L)

314 In lots of ways Leftists are egging on Muzzies and BLM so maybe thats their plan to let them take the opening of a war.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (yx0Ld)

315 The LEFT is all about trying to say that Human Nature... that the hardwiring... is false...

They have to. The essence of socialism is subordinating one's personal interests to those of the collective.

If one rejects the premise that that is possible, socialism fails as a necessary consequence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (SRKgf)

316 maybe what you were talking about?

To fight the war in 1966, Hubbard created the Guardian's Office (GO), headed by his wife Mary Sue. It dealt with public relations, legal actions and gathering of intelligence on perceived threats. Hubbard ordered his staff to find "lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on attackers".

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (zu88C)

317 The VDH piece is very good, but it misses (or dances around) one key fact: Trumpism is NOT utopian.

This may sound odd of course, given how "Make America Great Again" sounds like such a clear appeal to some golden age, until you realize that the America folks want is an America most of them or their parents grew up in, came of age in, started careers in, bought a home in, raised children in...and saw betrayed, corrupted, and destroyed bit by bit as they watched helplessly.

This isn't some half-baked legendary place. It's something in their own memory. Something most of them knew wasn't perfect, by a long shot, but see as far better than the fallen mess we have now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon without a basestar at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (vyqqu)

318 297 282.
Not war overseas.
War here. At home.
Big difference.
Posted by: Martell

Considering there's no end date on a prediction for war here, no, it's exactly the same.

Or maybe we should ask the pre-clovis about it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 08:41 PM (V3IFq)

the Civil War lasted 4 Years.

WW2 Lasted.... 4 years...

Revolutionary war lasted.... 5 years? 76 to 81? although its disputed...

We have been at 'war' with Islam for well over 30 years.... but that is not REAL War...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (qf6WZ)

319 311 Splunge -- here's what i was referring to..

Hubbard in response, per his written "Ethics Technology" required Scientologists to "disconnect" from any organization or individual-including family members-deemed to be "suppressive," required writing of "Knowledge Reports" on each other stating transgressions of punishable "Misdemeanors," "Crimes" and "High Crimes," all familiar with Synanon's directive to "cope out" on each other and disconnect from "splitees." The "Fair Game" policy was introduced, (Scientology claimed later it was withdrawn) directing a suppressive... "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (zu88C)

Ah, actual Scientology writ. I must respond with something equally well-sourced. So, OK, this from Wikipedia (yeah, I know, but I've read this before from other sources):

In 1966, Hubbard wrote a criticism of the organization's behavior and noted the "correct procedure" for attacking enemies of Scientology:
(1) Spot who is attacking us.
(2) Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using own professionals, not outside agencies.
(3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them.
(4) Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press.

That's where I got the blood thing from.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (iMxBJ)

320 With so many about to get kicked off their gravy train, IEDs will become
much more numerous, from both sides of the aisle, as well as from the
mfm

That's my thinking, as well. At this late stage in the game, the Free Shit Genie can't be stuffed back into the bottle.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (Tyii7)

321 I don't think the Left realizes that "We", those of us who have had it up to here ( pointing a tad over my eye brows) are not going to take it anymore. They are playing with fire

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (SjImc)

322 Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon without a basestar at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (vyqqu)

This ain't your father's US of A!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:49 PM (wCEn4)

323 In lots of ways Leftists are egging on Muzzies and BLM so maybe thats their plan to let them take the opening of a war.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (yx0Ld)

They're too much of pajama boys to do anything physical themselves. What happened to that disable white kid on Facebook is exactly what the left has been preaching about. When it happens they are silent or blame us but it's what they want

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2017 08:49 PM (auHtY)

324 Obama's presidency has been intolerable. The Intolerable Acts came after the Boston Tea Party.

Would you believe on April 15th, 2009, I took a little tea bag and put it at the base of the flagpole in front of the main building where I was attending grad school? It meant something to me.

Now we have a president we can celebrate.
Maybe we can start calling ourselves Winners, now.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 08:49 PM (G7LgH)

325 "...War is coming to America. It may not happen in your lifetime, but it's coming. Deny it at your own risk."

Posted by: Country Boy
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I do think we will see left wing violence. I know they say when Bush won the left was this crazy. The thing is, I don't recall it being THIS bad. The lost chance to take us over the cliff of statism seems to have caused them to finally snap. If we don't have Weather Underground type violence I will be surprised.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:49 PM (hVdx9)

326 314 In lots of ways Leftists are egging on Muzzies and BLM so maybe thats their plan to let them take the opening of a war.
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (yx0Ld)

They're not trying to start a war. Only some of the most stupid blacks talk about a race war.

The Left eggs on the Muzzies and BLM to destabilize society, so that ultimately they can present themselves as the only group who can make the uproar - which they ginned up - stop.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:50 PM (SRKgf)

327 Indeed, inside Juan Williams' brain. Today he was esp stupid. Just when I think he can't get any dumber, he proves me wrong.

How you doing these days? You sound pretty good lately. You have been in my prayers w/ others here who have faced personal loss lately.
Posted by: Farmer at January 13, 2017 08:37 PM (o/90i)

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Hey you!

Besides dealing with funeral homes, the VA, the SSA, the IRS, and a daughter who has turned into jekyll and hyde's twin sister, I'm doing ok.

Back to school, so there's that reprieve

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:50 PM (CRotO)

328 "We have been at 'war' with Islam for well over 30 years.... but that is not REAL War..."

The trouble is that we have NOT been at war with Islam. In fact, every since W started calling them the "Religion of Peace," we have been surrendering. Gen. Mattis and Trump will NOT be saying things like that. Trump is not a client of the Saudis, and they will not be bowing to them and sucking their cocks. It is a different world that we will enter in the next 7 days.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:50 PM (ro5Th)

329 18-1 It is a Leftist goverment playbook to charge outside forces that cause the demise of any Leftist planning.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:50 PM (yx0Ld)

330 This may sound odd of course, given how "Make America Great Again"
sounds like such a clear appeal to some golden age, until you realize
that the America folks want is an America most of them or their parents
grew up in, came of age in, started careers in, bought a home in, raised
children in...and saw betrayed, corrupted, and destroyed bit by bit as
they watched helplessly.

This isn't some half-baked legendary place. It's something in their own memory.

BC - that was good. Really good.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:50 PM (zu88C)

331 We have been at 'war' with Islam for well over 30 years.... but that is not REAL War...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (qf6WZ)

A "war" our leaders don't really want to win!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (wCEn4)

332 reloading sounds fun!

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (G7LgH)

333 We have been at 'war' with Islam for well over 30 years.... but that is not REAL War...
***
The odd thing is that if America decided to eliminate Islamism, it would probably only take a year.

Islam itself would be rather harder of course.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (aZq03)

334 War could be coming but not sure who is going to start it first. Muzzies fresh out of the middle east? BLM expanding their attacks or Leftists but they largely are unarmed and prefer lawfare over warfare.

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examine the styles of each when they go hot, it gives a kind of clue

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (U0lQa)

335 I put "Young Frankenstein" in my Netflix Q when Gene Wilder died & it finally arrived today!

I liked Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother alot.

Silly in spots but mostly funny. Madeline Kahn is great in it.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (qUNWi)

336
That's where I got the blood thing from.

Posted by: Splunge
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10-4

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (zu88C)

337 Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 08:45 PM (zu88C)

L. Ron Hubbard = a low-rent Karl Marx.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)

338 I do think we will see left wing violence. I know they say when Bush won the left was this crazy. The thing is, I don't recall it being THIS bad. The lost chance to take us over the cliff of statism seems to have caused them to finally snap. If we don't have Weather Underground type violence I will be surprised.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:49 PM (hVdx9)

It was no where this bad..The Left is going whole hog to delegitimize PE Trump. AND the will NOT stop.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (SjImc)

339
332 reloading sounds fun!
Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 08:51 PM (G7LgH)
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It IS fun! Do you shoot?

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:52 PM (Sfs6o)

340 In lots of ways Leftists are egging on Muzzies and BLM so maybe thats their plan to let them take the opening of a war.

Posted by: Skip
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Bingo. They are meant to be the foot soldiers...the cannon fodder.
Add to the list the militant gays, some rad fems, and a small number of hardcore Marxists, and there is what we are up against.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:53 PM (hVdx9)

341 I feel badly for you guys who work and live with libs who are giving you nothing but grief. I'm very blessed to have a family who all see things pretty much the same way (except for one who started going koo-koo after the election, but I know why so I give her a pass.)

I feel pretty comfortable with the people at church too. Politics are rarely discussed openly, but there were a lot of thumbs-up and big smiles after the election. And there was that guy in Bible class last week, when we were discussing a bad king in the Old Testament. Guy said he must have been a Democrat. Everybody laughed.

So my world is relatively sane.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (bpfzP)

342 It was no where this bad..The Left is going whole hog to delegitimize PE Trump. AND the will NOT stop.

Meh...their idiot tantrums don't mean shit to me.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (qUNWi)

343 https://tinyurl.com/j4q8stl

Trey Gowdy joins House intel panel

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (y3aQB)

344 Long ago use to reload, does save if your shooting alot. Kind of doing my own in blackpowder with casting. Am having all kinds of fun doing that.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (yx0Ld)

345 321 I don't think the Left realizes that "We", those of us who have had it up to here ( pointing a tad over my eye brows) are not going to take it anymore. They are playing with fire
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:48 PM (SjImc)

I said we were on the road to civil war when Obama was elected in 2008, for the simple reason that you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.

Now, in 2016, the Left is freaking out because they were *this close* to taking absolute and permanent power, with all that entails.

I'm frankly surprised it hasn't gone hot already. But yeah, it's coming. I haven't revised my earlier prediction.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 08:55 PM (sdi6R)

346 Didn't like the article at all. They weren't "shocked" by Trump's locker room chitchat with Billy Bush twenty years ago because they weren't shocked by any of the Clinton, Kennedy, Muslim, Illegals', or BLM crimes (actual crimes) AT ALL.

Posted by: t- bird at January 13, 2017 08:55 PM (qjyU5)

347 It was no where this bad..The Left is going whole hog to delegitimize PE Trump. AND the will NOT stop.

Meh...their idiot tantrums don't mean shit to me.
Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (qUNWi)\

I am afraid it will. To you, To Me, and to a good many Patriotic men and women.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:55 PM (SjImc)

348 Bingo. They are meant to be the foot soldiers...the cannon fodder.
Add to the list the militant gays, some rad fems, and a small number of hardcore Marxists, and there is what we are up against.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:53 PM (hVdx9)

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Which is why I'm not all that worried.

SJWs haven't exactly proven to possess thick skin, and the goatfuckers don't exactly have a long shelf life.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:56 PM (CRotO)

349 Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:10 PM (ro5Th)

Would your friends be open to listening to some of Jon Haidt's Moral Foundations theory work . . . maybe his TED talks?

The only way to change someone's worldview (which is what we're talking about here) is to make it too uncomfortable for them to maintain it. That's sad, but it's human nature.

Of course, there are many variations of "uncomfortable." Being confronted with the fact that "liberals" have a much more shallow and limited view of human ethical behavior than "conservatives" do would, I think, be deeply uncomfortable for them, in a healthy way.

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 08:56 PM (s5o+q)

350 I will say that I can see a time soon where big cities and any areas with large numbers of people with drastically different economic circumstances in close proximity to one another will become very dangerous places to be.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)

351 Patrick From Ohio at January 13, 2017 08:29

Yup. I was nervous about that too. Not that I thought they would come hunt me down, but that if say I had some dealing with the Feds (say IRS or SSA or what have you) that they would look me up and the amount of hassle I got would be adjusted accordingly.

I got over it and donated eventually 'cause it was so tight an election and I knew I would be gnashing my teeth forever if I didn't help and he lost a close one.

Posted by: cfomahm at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (RfzVr)

352 A story whose ambiguities and nuances could not now be written, nor its real language uttered, because the cultural establishment...doesn't allow those words.

Rectification of the Names is coming

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (EZebt)

353 347 Meh...their idiot tantrums don't mean shit to me.
Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 08:54 PM (qUNWi)\
I am afraid it will. To you, To Me, and to a good many Patriotic men and women.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 08:55 PM (SjImc)

Why? They. Do. Not. Have. Power.

What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (iMxBJ)

354 "Which is why I'm not all that worried."

I agree. We have been bending over to these bastards for entirely too long and now the worm is turning. They are powerless against the common sense, decent, America-loving masses that have been too "polite" to kick their asses for entirely too long.

Now I am going to go and make myself some pad thai for supper. May be back later.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 13, 2017 08:58 PM (ro5Th)

355 Ugh. Newsweak.

Posted by: Gem at January 13, 2017 08:58 PM (uaHyk)

356 What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (iMxBJ)
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Giant puppets.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 08:58 PM (bpfzP)

357 356 Giant puppets.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 08:58 PM (bpfzP)

Oh, crap. I hadn't thought of that. We're doomed.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:59 PM (iMxBJ)

358 - There's no art in predicting another war in the future. It's terribly easy.

- We are too tempted to see war and disaster around every corner. Most of history is actually boring.

Posted by: weft cut-loop

We can eliminate war once we bring about a world wide Caliphate.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at January 13, 2017 08:59 PM (rH4JY)

359 Giant puppets.

Drum circles and Poopfests.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 09:00 PM (Tyii7)

360 I'm frankly surprised it hasn't gone hot already. But yeah, it's coming. I haven't revised my earlier prediction.

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I still haven't yet revised mine: No civil war on the horizon. I'm still awaiting a number of tripwires - which admittedly can all occur in rapid succession

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 09:00 PM (U0lQa)

361 Giant puppets would be a game changer

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 09:00 PM (yx0Ld)

362 Weasel, I have shot, and have an FOID, but no longer own a gun, long story. There's a little "tack" shop where I can rent one and target shoot, and I'm saving for a protector. until then, God's been keeping me safe.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (G7LgH)

363 It's the drum circles that keep me up at night.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (Sfs6o)

364 Drum circles.

oh yes.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (zu88C)

365 348 Bingo. They are meant to be the foot soldiers...the cannon fodder.
Add to the list the militant gays, some rad fems, and a small number of hardcore Marxists, and there is what we are up against.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:53 PM (hVdx9)
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Which is why I'm not all that worried.

SJWs haven't exactly proven to possess thick skin, and the goatfuckers don't exactly have a long shelf life.
Posted by: SMFH
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The most militant gays haven't exactly proven to be the brightest bulbs on the porch, and have a tendency to make choices to not live as long as they could, either.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (zc45R)

366 Giant puppets.

Dammit I forgot about those. We're fucked.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (qUNWi)

367 Drum circles.

oh yes.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (zu88C)

So they're serious about total war?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (wCEn4)

368 I get the pessimism but things could get better too. I figure the odds be fifty fifty.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (BO/km)

369 "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon"

Every time I do battle on Facebook, I have to remind myself not to get into pointless arguments. So I wind up posting You Tube videos. George Gallo's "sore losers" will do if I can't find something funnier.

And, we need to learn which Lefties have closed minds and which ones we can have discussions with. I think we managed to get a few Bernie voters on board, just as payback to Hillary. Find areas where we can agree.

I've purged my Facebook list to where I am back to pictures of springer spaniels from the springer groups in England. I have a much happier time on Facebook now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 13, 2017 09:03 PM (Mt8T4)

370 Why? They. Do. Not. Have. Power.

What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (iMxBJ)

Yes. But they will bring impeachment bills to the floor even month in Congress. They and their MSM cohorts will lie cheat and steal to find any crap they can on PE Trump and his family and his associates. They will bring business as usual in American to a screeching halt. And then throw in some Muslim Terrorists and it could very well get messy. But am I afraid? NO. But I think we are going to have to have the balls to fight back and match them tit for tat and more. Make them squeal. I look forward to it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:03 PM (SjImc)

371 Paper mache Trump-heads.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:03 PM (zu88C)

372 You haven't known real terror until you've been outflanked by drum circles. *shudder*

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (Tyii7)

373 Bingo. They are meant to be the foot soldiers...the cannon fodder.
Add to the list the militant gays, some rad fems, and a small number of hardcore Marxists, and there is what we are up against.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:53 PM (hVdx9)

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Which is why I'm not all that worried.

SJWs haven't exactly proven to possess thick skin, and the goatfuckers don't exactly have a long shelf life.

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 08:56 PM (CRotO)

And most of them aren't armed.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (Jcg9Q)

374 I get the pessimism but things could get better too. I figure the odds be fifty fifty.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (BO/km)

Well, at one level, they've already gotten incrementally better, because Hillary Clinton will NEVER be President of the United States!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (wCEn4)

375 367 Drum circles.

oh yes.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:01 PM (zu88C)

So they're serious about total war?
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (wCEn4)

The next thing left after that is a "vocal bath" - the singing, chanting equivalent to a drum circle.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (7qAYi)

376 368 I get the pessimism but things could get better too. I figure the odds be fifty fifty.
Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (BO/k
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You're an optimist!

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (Sfs6o)

377 And most of them aren't armed.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:04 PM (Jcg9Q)

Actually I read somewhere that they are actually starting to arm themselves. LOL

My bet: A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

378 Yes. But they will bring impeachment bills to the floor even month in Congress. They and their MSM cohorts will lie cheat and steal to find any crap they can on PE Trump and his family and his associates. They will bring business as usual in American to a screeching halt. And then throw in some Muslim Terrorists and it could very well get messy. But am I afraid? NO. But I think we are going to have to have the balls to fight back and match them tit for tat and more. Make them squeal. I look forward to it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:03 PM (SjImc)

The Trump-Sessions Justice Department needs to investigate the hell out of the "non-profits" which comprise a significant fraction of the Democrat-Media Complex.

I'm talking RICO. Conspiracy to incite riots, at the very, very least.

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)

379 The Trump-Sessions Justice Department needs to investigate the hell out of the "non-profits" which comprise a significant fraction of the Democrat-Media Complex.

I'm talking RICO. Conspiracy to incite riots, at the very, very least.
Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)

I'm good with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (SjImc)

380 A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

That implies they'll be able to get off two shots!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (wCEn4)

381 347 It was no where this bad..The Left is going whole hog to delegitimize PE Trump. AND the will NOT stop.

Meh...their idiot tantrums don't mean shit to me.
Posted by: eleven
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It means something to me.
At least a generation of Republican Presidency.
Now, we just have to make sure they do the job we're hiring them to do...

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (zc45R)

382 353
They. Do. Not. Have. Power.

What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (iMxBJ)

They still control most of the government bureaucracy. The "Deep State". Not to mention academia and the media. They continue to spread their poison to the next generation.

All this stuff going on in colleges now, about "microagression", "check your privilege", and the notion that an accuser must be believed, and the accused has no right to due process? Those people will be the politicians, lawyers, and judges in the next generation.

They have tons of power. We ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:07 PM (sdi6R)

383 Actually I read somewhere that they are actually starting to arm themselves. LOL

My bet: A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

Read that too.

Doesn't particularly concern me.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:07 PM (Jcg9Q)

384 377 My bet: A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

My bet: they are talking about becoming armed, but are not actually doing it. Kind of a sucker bet, really.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:08 PM (iMxBJ)

385 Bingo. They are meant to be the foot soldiers...the cannon fodder.
Add to the list the militant gays, some rad fems, and a small number of hardcore Marxists, and there is what we are up against.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 08:53 PM (hVdx9)

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Which is why I'm not all that worried.

SJWs haven't exactly proven to possess thick skin, and the goatfuckers don't exactly have a long shelf life.

Posted by: SMFH
****

Granted that while a lot of the wannabe terrorists here in the U.S. have been incompetent, the ones that weren't have left quite the body count in their wake.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:08 PM (hVdx9)

386 Now, we just have to make sure they do the job we're hiring them to do...
Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (zc45R)

Bingo! Yup...no more milk toast compromising. Ram the whole enchilada thru and damn the torpedoes!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:08 PM (SjImc)

387 Paper mache Trump-heads.

Ach...no!

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:08 PM (qUNWi)

388 A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

I've enjoyed reenacting history, and your comment reminded me that westward-travelling pioneer men most often died from firearm accidents, because of their lack of experience.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 09:08 PM (G7LgH)

389 They continue to spread their poison to the next generation.

That's the rub.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at January 13, 2017 09:09 PM (Tyii7)

390 It means something to me.
At least a generation of Republican Presidency.
Now, we just have to make sure they do the job we're hiring them to do...

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:06 PM (zc45R)

It's going to take a lot of arm twisting or sudden growing of a pair for the Vichy Republicans

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (auHtY)

391 My bet: they are talking about becoming armed, but are not actually doing it. Kind of a sucker bet, really.
Posted by: Splunge
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^this^

99% of them can't put the cocoa down long enough to get out of their onesies, much less get out of the house to arm up and get certified.

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (zc45R)

392 "The gap between HR departments and the real world is a story obviously not being told very well."

I like this. It's a great line.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (0mRoj)

393 They still control most of the government bureaucracy. The "Deep State". Not to mention academia and the media. They continue to spread their poison to the next generation.

All this stuff going on in colleges now, about "microagression", "check your privilege", and the notion that an accuser must be believed, and the accused has no right to due process? Those people will be the politicians, lawyers, and judges in the next generation.

They have tons of power. We ain't seen nothing yet.
Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:07 PM (sdi6R)

Generation Snowflake (aka the "Millenials") is in the process of being mugged by reality.

You saw the story that their household incomes is significantly less than their parents' was at the same stage of life, yes?

Mugged by reality. Socialism is EXPENSIVE.

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (s5o+q)

394 I once emailed Michael Wolfe during the Iraq war excoriating him for a snarky column. He replied. It was shitty reply but I respected him for taking the time. This is prescient.

Posted by: Martini at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (c6Cn4)

395 I believe things will continue to deteriorate, and the left will continue their over reach, until every bit of slack is taken out of the system and then something is going to snap.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (Sfs6o)

396 And most of them aren't armed.

Posted by: Country Boy
****

Some could arm themselves and the left does seem to have a love affair with explosives, although said love is not mutual.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (hVdx9)

397 And most of them aren't armed
==

Seriously.

And please remember that this "Civil War" will be fought with people who get withdrawal symptoms when disconnected from the internet, who's entire social life is lived on "social media", who's kids "hang out together" on Xbox, and who can't walk 10 steps without checking their phone .

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (zu88C)

398 The left wingers who bought guns.I imagine that going like the scientist guy in World War Z.

Posted by: steevy at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (r/0kC)

399 Giant puppets.

Posted by: grammie winger

Heh. Liberal liturgical churches have had a serious thing for creepy giant papier mache puppets of doom for quite some time now.

But do not fear, conservative churches, whether evangelical or liturgical, (as far as I know) have never really been into them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (rH4JY)

400 I'll be honest 1/2 the things I say now a days I would not have said 2 years ago. But my give a shit meter done be own empty. And the radicalism on the left has gone to far.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (SjImc)

401 >> The Trump-Sessions Justice Department needs to investigate the
>> hell out of the "non-profits"

I don't know if you saw that Hungary's govt. is doing exactly this with the Soros funded "NGOs" in their country.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (DW+jj)

402 What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 08:57 PM (iMxBJ)

Do you want to be in the spot where they demonstrate? Riot? Get violent? These things get ugly in a hurry.

Social media helps them communicate and fight almost like paramilitary groups. They can spring up anywhere.

The "oh shit" moment for me was the pool party incident in McKinney north of Dallas. They "gathered" on twitter and coordinated their efforts. All kinds of urban, Oak Cliff scum went up there and wreaked havoc, and nobody knew until it was happening. In one of the nicest 'burbs in DFW.

If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere, at any time. That was it for me. I'm getting out of the city.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (Jcg9Q)

403 314 In lots of ways Leftists are egging on Muzzies and BLM so maybe thats their plan to let them take the opening of a war.
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2017 08:47 PM (yx0Ld)

===

The Marxists egged on the Islamists in Iran, thinking they could ride on Khomeini's back to power.

The Conservatives thought they were riding on Hitler's back too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (EZebt)

404 "You're an optimist!"

What's eyeglasses got to do with it?

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (BO/km)

405 A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

We can get Barney Fife to teach them how to handle a guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2017 09:12 PM (auHtY)

406 What're they going to do? Demonstrate? Block bridges? Riot? Occupy Wall Street?
Posted by: Splunge

Do more of what they've already started but wont' because they are lazy and dumb.

It's the standard playbook:

- Identify the weak and pick them off
- Identify the vulnerable and use them
- Mock, ridicule, make the obstinate targets for crazies, opportunists, and assholes.

Lookie here:

"CA DOJ's Willful Disclosure of Firearm Safety Instructors' Private Information was Prompted by a Local NPR Reporter"
at TTAG

Think any of those instructors is going to be harassed? Think any will quit?

Yeah, like that.

Now replicate that by 10,000. If they're motivated.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 09:12 PM (V3IFq)

407 366 Giant puppets.

Dammit I forgot about those. We're fucked.
Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:02 PM (qUNWi)

Giant vagina puppets. It ain't a protest until you have the giant vagina puppets.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:12 PM (0mRoj)

408 for me, the black swan in the whole upcoming civil upheaval thing is technology. we are on the cusp of radical change in every area of our lives, from jobs and careers to education to driving to finance to insurance to housing to everything, and interpersonal relationships will likewise be affected.

the styles of war that each affiliated group engages in will either thrive or be outmoded.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 09:12 PM (U0lQa)

409 I am not worried about the 99% of leftist blowhards. My concern is for the .5% that will become violent. Historically they have not been very good at it, but people still died at their hands.
Perhaps that is why they try to incite others. Dallas lost 5 officers thanks to such incitement.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

410 Goo'night. work comes early for me tomorrow. Rock away all.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (G7LgH)

411 And please remember that this "Civil War" will be fought with people who get withdrawal symptoms when disconnected from the internet, who's entire social life is lived on "social media", who's kids "hang out together" on Xbox, and who can't walk 10 steps without checking their phone .

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (zu88C)

And will have to come out of their urban shitholes to look for food.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (Jcg9Q)

412 We can get Barney Fife to teach them how to handle a guy
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2017 09:12 PM (auHtY)

I think I'm better qualified in that area.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (0mRoj)

413 392 "The gap between HR departments and the real world is a story obviously not being told very well."
I like this. It's a great line.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (0mRoj)

It is. HR is basically Government's outpost in your company. Back in the day, I interviewed with (company you'd have heard of). They had just under a thousand employees, and exactly ONE (1) HR person, who coordinated the hiring process. You didn't need more, then.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (iMxBJ)

414 Just for kicks, I tried to ascertain if LL Bean was the Made in America icon that currently popular coverage seems to suggest. The result was that it's global but a lot more USA centric that any place else I've seen lately!
http://tinyurl.com/6w43p93

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:14 PM (wCEn4)

415 Do you want to be in the spot where they demonstrate? Riot? Get violent? These things get ugly in a hurry.

Social media helps them communicate and fight almost like paramilitary groups. They can spring up anywhere.

The "oh shit" moment for me was the pool party incident in McKinney north of Dallas. They "gathered" on twitter and coordinated their efforts. All kinds of urban, Oak Cliff scum went up there and wreaked havoc, and nobody knew until it was happening. In one of the nicest 'burbs in DFW.

If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere, at any time. That was it for me. I'm getting out of the city.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:11 PM (Jcg9Q)

And, as has been shown these past two years since BLM got organized, the police won't do anything to stop their illegal activities. Every city in the country is run by radical leftists & they tell the police to stand down.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 09:15 PM (7qAYi)

416 Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (G7LgH)
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'night!

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:15 PM (Sfs6o)

417 Generation Snowflake (aka the "Millenials") is in the process of being mugged by reality.

You saw the story that their household incomes is significantly less than their parents' was at the same stage of life, yes?

Mugged by reality. Socialism is EXPENSIVE.
Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:10 PM (s5o+q)

I've actually commented about that before.

If they can't afford to own property, they will have no respect for others' property. They will resent those who do own property, and will happily support government confiscation of private property.

That's a feature, not a bug, to the socialists.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:15 PM (sdi6R)

418 A lot of them will be shooting themselves in the feet.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

We can get Barney Fife to teach them how to handle a guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan

I'm not gay.

Posted by: Barney Fife at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (rH4JY)

419 It is. HR is basically Government's outpost in your company. Back in the day, I interviewed with (company you'd have heard of). They had just under a thousand employees, and exactly ONE (1) HR person, who coordinated the hiring process. You didn't need more, then.
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:13 PM (iMxBJ)

Yep. Back in the day it had a fairly straightforward function and it's become a monster.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (0mRoj)

420 The Senate Intel Committee is evidently going to investigate Trump ties to Russia, in case no one have posted this yet.

http://tinyurl.com/zmj74p8

Posted by: Javems at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (yOqwj)

421 We need to get serious about the culture war. Maybe it means working with those involved in Christian programming. We can make a difference if we can get that different point of view out there. And we either have to force diversity of thought at colleges and universities or make them irrelevant.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 13, 2017 09:17 PM (Mt8T4)

422 Aren't most people afraid of the HR dept?

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (BO/km)

423 I'm not gay.
Posted by: Barney Fife at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (rH4JY)

ya coulda fooled me

Posted by: Thelm Lou at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (SjImc)

424 Drum circles.

oh yes.

*****

Come on people. Can we be serious here for a moment. You must never underestimate the awesome power of a fully weaponized up-twinkle!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (wPiJc)

425 I like the diversity of 00 Buck.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (Sfs6o)

426 War here? It ain't gonna happen. Many of the left will get in line. Look at McConnell and Ryan they are catching on. Trump is not going to cut the ~~race and sex~~ hustlers any slack.

Communism has no pie. Trump is an invitation to get some. There will be pie not war.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2017 09:19 PM (/8r1I)

427 The Senate Intel Committee is evidently going to investigate Trump ties to Russia, in case no one have posted this yet.

http://tinyurl.com/zmj74p8

Posted by: Javems at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (yOqwj)

Yes I saw that. And that is one of the things I was talking about

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:19 PM (SjImc)

428 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?

Posted by: HR Dept. Interview at January 13, 2017 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

429 We can get Barney Fife to teach them how to handle a guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan

I'm not gay.

Posted by: Barney Fife

*****

Don't worry Barney. Andy doesn't let them have any bullets, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (wPiJc)

430 424 Come on people. Can we be serious here for a moment. You must never underestimate the awesome power of a fully weaponized up-twinkle!
Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (wPiJc)

I fear that, one day soon, someone will down-twinkle Trump, and our entire side will be immobilized. One can only hope that they don't think of it.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (iMxBJ)

431 Posted by: Javems at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (yOqwj)

But of course...

as McConnell, McCain, and Graham quietly cheer them on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (wCEn4)

432 425 I like the diversity of 00 Buck.
Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (Sfs6o)

I celebrate diversity. Glock, Sig, ParaUSA, Springfield, S&W, Steyr...they're all welcome in my collection.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (0mRoj)

433 And we either have to force diversity of thought at colleges and universities or make them irrelevant.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 13, 2017 09:17 PM (Mt8T4)

It is really rather easy. Cut off the money. All those Federally Funded Student loans pay those worthless salaries of all those commie left wing "professors"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (SjImc)

434 I've been fearful for a long time that shit has been going the wrong way. I was buying guns and ammo during the Clinton years. And food and land during Obama. But I live a cloistered life. Family and friends are pretty much all "conservative ". Don't use facebook or any other social media except the bar in my rural town.

I for the longest time have thought I was just a paranoid crazy. The steps I took in defense may not have been all the right ones. But they are now saying I am to be eliminated. I was right to fear them now that they are out loud fucking screaming WAR.

All I've ever wanted was to be left alone. My biggest hope now is that they are all talk. IYKWIM

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (W6Ch1)

435 430 424 Come on people. Can we be serious here for a moment. You must never underestimate the awesome power of a fully weaponized up-twinkle!
Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:18 PM (wPiJc)

I fear that, one day soon, someone will down-twinkle Trump, and our entire side will be immobilized. One can only hope that they don't think of it.
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (iMxBJ)

We must be prepared for a vigorous counter-twinkle.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:21 PM (0mRoj)

436 423 I'm not gay.
Posted by: Barney Fife at January 13, 2017 09:16 PM (rH4JY)
ya coulda fooled me
Posted by: Thelm Lou

What do expect from Mr Limpet?

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:21 PM (BO/km)

437 What did Barney Fife's parents say nine months before he was conceived?

"Time to make the Don Knotts".

Posted by: the fat guy with the moustache at January 13, 2017 09:21 PM (rH4JY)

438 432. You're shaming your Tokarev by not naming her.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:22 PM (pRELs)

439 We must be prepared for a vigorous counter-twinkle.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:21 PM (0mRoj)
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Gentlemen, we have a twinkle gap!

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:22 PM (Sfs6o)

440 I am not worried about the 99% of leftist blowhards. My concern is for the .5% that will become violent.

*******

Well crud! Now they have us outnumbered 104% to 100%.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:22 PM (wPiJc)

441 "We must be prepared for a vigorous counter-twinkle"

I'm practicing right now!

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:22 PM (BO/km)

442 We must be prepared for a vigorous counter-twinkle.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:21 PM (0mRoj)

Or, gasp, as a last resort, the dreaded horizontal twinkle!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:23 PM (wCEn4)

443 Aren't most people afraid of the HR dept?

I used to be.

Now I'm not. I'm not taking my company's "ethics" training this year. I was fine with its security training etc. but I'm not taking lessons on "ethics" from a supporter of the Human Rights Campaign.

If they don't like it they can fire me, but I am getting the feeling they won't. I make too much money for them.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 13, 2017 09:23 PM (6FqZa)

444 No, no, no.
There is no truth to the rumor that we're gay.
But, Thank God Otis is!

Posted by: Andy, Barney and Floyd at January 13, 2017 09:24 PM (zc45R)

445 My grandpa used to be the Personnel Director for a furniture company. Is that the same as HR?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:24 PM (bpfzP)

446 Every time I've dealt with an HR dept it sucked. That's why I don't have one now.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:25 PM (BO/km)

447 >> But, Thank God Otis is!

Otis liked to spar with loaded goats, if you remember.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 13, 2017 09:25 PM (DW+jj)

448 Well also I only have one employee.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)

449 There is also this: I talk to a lot of folks that I know have high paying careers, people working 60-70 hour weeks. What if we make a more relaxed lifestyle the way that cool people live? What if they learn that they'd be happier with less (minimalists) or with a family? What if they don't need all that stuff? They feel that there's a better way, but they need to know it's okay to live that way. If we can ridicule those strivers working themselves into an early grave, we might start to turn a few.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (Mt8T4)

450 Well also I only have one employee.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)
===========================

That cuts down on the paperwork.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (bpfzP)

451 445. No, he performed a useful function.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (pRELs)

452 There I was. In the shit. Surrounded by smelly hipsters and black-masked "anarchists" demanding free government health care and monthly stipends. My supply of twinkles had run dangerously low.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (0mRoj)

453 Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)
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Well then sadly, freaked, YOU ARE the HR department.

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (Sfs6o)

454 "My grandpa used to be the Personnel Director for a furniture company. Is that the same as HR?"

If your grandpa hated white hetro men then yes.

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (W6Ch1)

455 428 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview at January 13, 2017 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

A happy tree, if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: Bob Ross, HR Director at January 13, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

456 But, Thank God Otis is!

*****

Sigh. Another childhood icon destroyed...

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:28 PM (wPiJc)

457 382.
That is key. The way they control our educational system from early grades through college gives them tremendous power.

For conservative students, going back to college has become a traumatic experience. Psychologically going behind enemy lines and knowing that if given the chance, these unhinged lefties would kill them. I am not exaggerating.

Follow what is happening now at Berkeley. Milos is scheduled to speak there. It is absolute war by the administration, some professors, and Berkeley lefty groups against the Berkeley Republican Club. Private information has been made public to terrorize and intimidate. I do worry for the conservative students and Milos safety.

Please, follow this event and let as many conservative friends as you can know to follow this. Their tactics must be made public to the largest number of Americans possible.

Posted by: Martell at January 13, 2017 09:28 PM (BqV6r)

458 Well also I only have one employee.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)

The diversity training sessions must be awesome!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:28 PM (wCEn4)

459 Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (W6Ch1)

Waco was a wake up call that the government has become weaponized to use against it own citizens, and they have only weaponized themselves with each passing year. The scope and scale should terrify any citizen.

Posted by: Pepe at January 13, 2017 09:28 PM (4QKpw)

460 I fear that, one day soon, someone will down-twinkle Trump, and our entire side will be immobilized. One can only hope that they don't think of it.
Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM (iMxBJ)

I await with relish the day that some leftist drone at Twitter decides to suspend Trump's account.

Oh, the hilarity which would ensue!

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (s5o+q)

461 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:22 PM (pRELs)

Well, I don't own one, plus Tokarev is a model not a manufacturer as far as I know. But they're all welcome regardless.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (0mRoj)

462 No, no, no.
There is no truth to the rumor that we're gay.
But, Thank God Otis is!

Posted by: Andy, Barney and Floyd at January 13, 2017 09:24 PM (zc45R)

Is that why he was plastered all of the time?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (auHtY)

463 The Revolution was 1775 to 1783. You can argue about the beginning, but British troops left New York City in 1783.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (VdICR)

464 "Well then sadly, freaked, YOU ARE the HR department."

Nonsense. I abolished the position. I'm already too busy cleaning the john.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (BO/km)

465 Just remember, you can improve ANY New Yorker cartoon by retitleing it as

"I think I'll kill myself."

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2017 09:30 PM (501+2)

466 We need to get serious about the culture war. Maybe it means working with those involved in Christian programming.

===

way back, mid 90s, I listened to a lot of Jello Biafra's stuff. In it, he talked about common punk culture tropes like the Big Takeover and whatnot, and a lot was about How To.

In retrospect, we was advocating a kind of pre-net, leftwing version of 4chan and the alt lite right. SJW pranksters but not the tarded focus SJWs have.

Anyway, I think to some degree the culture war revolution or whatever you might want to call it is being re-fought now, only from a very unexpected angle.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at January 13, 2017 09:30 PM (U0lQa)

467 448 Well also I only have one employee.
Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)

I bet your boss is a real dick.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:30 PM (0mRoj)

468 449. Yes, there's a need for at least some portion of the people to realize how wealthy we really are, and to act accordingly. Work and wealth are for the sake of leisure and a good life; they are not ends in themselves.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:30 PM (pRELs)

469 A happy tree, if you know what's good for you.

We will also accept "team player tree" as sufficient.

Posted by: HR Dept. Interview at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (Tyii7)

470 I'm already too busy cleaning the john.
Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (BO/km)
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And you're also the CEO!

Posted by: Weasel at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (Sfs6o)

471 464 "Well then sadly, freaked, YOU ARE the HR department."
Nonsense. I abolished the position. I'm already too busy cleaning the john.
Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (BO/km)

Ah, entrepreneurs. How I've missed them these last 8 years.

Posted by: Splunge at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (iMxBJ)

472 'The diversity training sessions must be awesome!'

We have donuts!

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (BO/km)

473 Otis! Man, I never saw that coming.

Cute little red-headed freckle-faced kid turned out to be gay. Just wow!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (wPiJc)

474
Sigh. Another childhood icon destroyed...
Posted by: Muldoon
--------------

That joke comes from my favorite Johnny Carson interview - Michael Landon. TEllington that joke about The Cartwrights.
"but thank God Hop Sing was!"

Just to hear wholesome Landon tell that joke, Johnny was in stitches...

Posted by: Andy, Barney and Floyd at January 13, 2017 09:31 PM (zc45R)

475 What if they learn that they'd be happier with less (minimalists) or
with a family? What if they don't need all that stuff? They feel that
there's a better way, but they need to know it's okay to live that way.
==========================

It's very freeing to get rid of stuff. If it were up to me, I'd give half the stuff in my house away, including the furniture. I need one chair. Rev needs one chair. We need one bed. One table. Why do we have all this stuff? We've been slowly giving things away. Rev mailed some coats to a homeless shelter this morning. I'm trying to get my son to furnish his house from mine. It's beautiful stuff. I don't need it. Most of what I have, I really do not need.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:32 PM (bpfzP)

476 Nonsense. I abolished the position. I'm already too busy cleaning the john.
Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:29 PM (BO/km)

You run one of those "body scrub" places?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:32 PM (0mRoj)

477 'I bet your boss is a real dick.'

Yea that asshole is a moron.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:32 PM (BO/km)

478 Work and wealth are for the sake of leisure and a good life; they are not ends in themselves.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:30 PM (pRELs)

Work and wealth are the RESULT of a good life.

Not all wealth is measured with money.

(Your Deep Thought for this Friday evening.)

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:32 PM (s5o+q)

479 We have donuts!
Posted by: freaked

... wait a minute. That's a euphemism, isn't it?!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 09:33 PM (V3IFq)

480 Should've left my sock in Mayberry.

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (zc45R)

481 All I've ever wanted was to be left alone. My biggest hope now is that they are all talk. IYKWIM

Posted by: Willy J
****

They are not. They left will persecute you every chance they get. The super loony .5% will eventually throw you up against a wall and shoot you while all the others cheer.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (hVdx9)

482 I wish I could be a happy tree.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (qUNWi)

483 478 Not all wealth is measured with money.
(Your Deep Thought for this Friday evening.)
Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:32 PM (s5o+q)

HE'S TALKING ABOUT PENIS SIZE

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (iMxBJ)

484 If your grandpa hated white hetro men then yes.

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:27 PM (W6Ch1)
==================================

He was a Skandi acrobat, so I don't exactly know where he falls in that spectrum.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (bpfzP)

485 479 We have donuts!
Posted by: freaked

... wait a minute. That's a euphemism, isn't it?!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 13, 2017 09:33 PM (V3IFq)

Sometimes und donut izz just und donut, ja?

Posted by: Dr. Freud at January 13, 2017 09:35 PM (0mRoj)

486 In Ayn Rand's 1957 novel, "Atlas Shrugged", Hank Rearden's company got a government employee overseeing things.

That character was nicknamed the "Wet Nurse", but he was very similar to "political officers" in the Soviet Union or modern day HR departments in America.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:35 PM (sdi6R)

487 467 448 Well also I only have one employee.

Posted by: freaked at January 13, 2017 09:26 PM (BO/km)

I bet your boss is a real dick.

Posted by: Insomniac

I see you have met me before.

All employees that don't like me can get in line behind my I-Don't-Give-A-Fuck meter. Single file, if you please.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2017 09:35 PM (501+2)

488 Time to lick the donuts.

Posted by: Ariana Grandiose at January 13, 2017 09:36 PM (Tyii7)

489 478. Well, not to get all Aristotelian, but work and wealth are necessary in order to secure the means - instruments, equipment, etc. - to a life allowing contemplation (philosophy and science) and/or proper action (ethical and political excellence). But means are understood with a view to their ends - we need far less for the good life than we think.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:36 PM (pRELs)

490 Why the Trump victory made me feel so safe I'm down to only 30 firearms.
Not really a lot. I would bet money a few morons here have that many pistols alone. I knew a few guys that were in the triple digits on firearms, and no they were not gun dealers.
Right now I have an almost 50-50 balance of handguns and rifles. Lead a balanced life folks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:37 PM (hVdx9)

491 Jim Nabors, who was on the Andy Griffith show, was gay.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2017 09:37 PM (rH4JY)

492 I always had a feeling that Trump and what he is bringing about is best illustrated my the movie Fight Club. An unapologetic Masculinity to combat the feminist traits and society.

This movement is a controlled and calculated Project Mayham against the status quo and the establishment. Instead of bombs and chaos, Trump is using populism and American Nationalism to drain the swamp.

Posted by: Pepe at January 13, 2017 09:37 PM (4QKpw)

493 I can't make heads or tails of this excerpt. Is he parodying the cultural elite's view of normal Americans--or endorsing it?

Posted by: Caliban at January 13, 2017 09:38 PM (3GFMN)

494 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

Ironwood, 'cause it's hard.

*waggles eyebrows*

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:38 PM (IcT7t)

495 Not really minimalist. But houses would be smaller and there would be less nik knacks If men ran things.

Yes there would be bigger garages and a shitload more fishing lures.

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:38 PM (W6Ch1)

496 491 Jim Nabors, who was on the Andy Griffith show, was gay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Well, Golllllyyyyy!
(Who da thunk it.)

Beautiful voice if you've ever heard him.

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:39 PM (zc45R)

497 Time to lick the donuts.

Posted by: Ariana Grandiose
****

I have a "donut" with chocolate icing you can lick.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:39 PM (hVdx9)

498 And, as has been shown these past two years since BLM got organized, the police won't do anything to stop their illegal activities. Every city in the country is run by radical leftists & they tell the police to stand down.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2017 09:15 PM (7qAYi)

By the time the cops got there, the damage was done.

Damage to property, assaults, injuries IIRC. Even the best law enforcement units are unable to stop such well planned havoc.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:40 PM (Jcg9Q)

499 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

Ironwood, 'cause it's hard.

*waggles eyebrows*

Posted by: Blanco Basura
****

Ebony. Because I am dark at heart.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:40 PM (hVdx9)

500 Yeah...If I ran shit there would be no niks or naks anywhere.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:40 PM (qUNWi)

501 494 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

Ironwood, 'cause it's hard.

*waggles eyebrows*
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:38 PM (IcT7t)

That won't make you very poplar.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:40 PM (0mRoj)

502 Jim Nabors, who was on the Andy Griffith show, was gay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Can the old joke about Rock Hudson be far behind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (ZO497)

503 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

Pee-can!

Posted by: da Trumpster at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (BO/km)

504 He was a Skandi acrobat, so I don't exactly know where he falls in that spectrum.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (bpfzP)

If he ate lutefisk he was a manlier man than me. So probably not HR

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (W6Ch1)

505 475 It's very freeing to get rid of stuff.

Posed by: grammie

Yes it is. Take my ex-wife, for example. Please. *j/k*

I told her to take the furniture. All I needed was a bed, a table, a chair, and some cooking utensils. I wanted to be able to live in a tent. A small one.

Not much has changed since then. You don't really own stuff; it owns you.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (501+2)

506 I am not worried about the 99% of leftist blowhards. My concern is for the .5% that will become violent.

We're already past that, bureau of prisons, via wiki, states there are 2,220,300 inmates as of 2013. If it happens it will no more than Saturday night in Chicago. You will read about it here or on Drudge the next day.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (/8r1I)

507 495. Look at some of the old Stickley and other Craftsman houses and furnishings. Luxurious and classy and the best, really, the best. But still simple and durable and economical because they lasted so long and never really went out of style.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (pRELs)

508 That won't make you very poplar.

I hate yew.

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:42 PM (qUNWi)

509 They are not. They left will persecute you every chance they get. The super loony .5% will eventually throw you up against a wall and shoot you while all the others cheer.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:34 PM (hVdx9)

Sadly, the history of the modern left supports your point all too well!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2017 09:43 PM (wCEn4)

510 Well, I cedar aren't any good tree puns left.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:43 PM (wPiJc)

511 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

An Ent, durrr.

Posted by: guy who doesn't get the job at January 13, 2017 09:44 PM (V3IFq)

512 508 That won't make you very poplar.

I hate yew.
Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:42 PM (qUNWi)

Don't make an ash of yourself.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:44 PM (0mRoj)

513 Teak, it thrives in moist places.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2017 09:44 PM (/8r1I)

514 You don't really own stuff; it owns you.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2017 09:41 PM (501+2)
================================

That is the truth.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 13, 2017 09:44 PM (bpfzP)

515 TKAW- sorry for mocking your math. I misread the decimal point.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:45 PM (wPiJc)

516 trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: Original Jake at January 13, 2017 09:45 PM (jrFgU)

517 Rhomboid - yep others said (including you) essentially the same point - some before, some after. That doesn't invalidate the latter comments simply bc someone else said it first. You said it MUCH succincter and clearer than I but occasionally I don't read all prior comments before commenting myself. I actually enjoy seeing other like no do express the GA differently - helps the thought processes.

Posted by: Smitty27 at January 13, 2017 09:45 PM (g9d8D)

518 I celebrate diversity. Glock, Sig, ParaUSA, Springfield, S&W, Steyr...they're all welcome in my collection.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:20 PM

Ja? Und vere are Herrs Heckler und Koch?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 13, 2017 09:45 PM (DMUuz)

519 510 Well, I cedar aren't any good tree puns left.
Posted by: Muldoon
--------------
Well, maybe we should just leaf then.

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (zc45R)

520 My bet: they are talking about becoming armed, but are not actually doing it. Kind of a sucker bet, really.
------------
I'm sure that they will be ***SHOCKED*** that there actually is NOT a gun show loop hole and they have to get a background check, fill out paperwork, and learn about how to use a gun, to say nothing about safety. Most of them can't be bothered because it may take some effort and **gasp** actual work.......the rest probably can't pass the background check....

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (JNDQi)

521 If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Posted by: HR Dept. Interview

*****

Well, eventually I hope to be C.E.Oak

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (wPiJc)

522 >>>Can the old joke about Rock Hudson be far behind.

Rock was never too far behind.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (ppaKI)

523 496 491 Jim Nabors, who was on the Andy Griffith show, was gay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Well, Golllllyyyyy!
(Who da thunk it.)

Beautiful voice if you've ever heard him.
Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:39 PM (zc45R)

Yet, back in the old unenlightened days when America was a land of gay bashing and white privilege, Jim Nabors was a popular and successful celebrity. Many enjoyed his comedic acting, while others enjoyed his singing.

Practicably nobody hated him.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (sdi6R)

524 Well, I cedar aren't any good tree puns left.
Posted by: Muldoon
--------------
Well, maybe we should just leaf then.

Posted by: Chi

Wood you two just chill? Plenty of puns to go around.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:47 PM (IcT7t)

525 Ja? Und vere are Herrs Heckler und Koch?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 13, 2017 09:45 PM (DMUuz)

Outside my budget. I'd really REALLY like to own a G36 and an MP5. Full auto, of course.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:47 PM (0mRoj)

526 sixkiller here?

Watched his DL vid

couldn't see his lumbar spine because the rack upright was in the way but is seemed flat enough

he might narrow his stance a few inched as well as his grip too

the cue, chest up may help flattening out his upper back

Posted by: Original Jake at January 13, 2017 09:47 PM (jrFgU)

527 May I presume that if I were to consider the purchase of a firearm for protection, I might get some advice here?

Never owned one, but since I'm widowed I've been advised by several folks to get one.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (nQ10o)

528 'Practicably nobody hated him.'

Ahem

Posted by: Sargent Carter at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (BO/km)

529
Practicably nobody hated him.
Posted by: rickl
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Supposebly? Supposebly...

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (zc45R)

530 He who types on the smartphone while on the crapper, produces shitty comment. Confucious

Posted by: Smitty27 at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (g9d8D)

531 527 May I presume that if I were to consider the purchase of a firearm for protection, I might get some advice here?

Never owned one, but since I'm widowed I've been advised by several folks to get one.
Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (nQ10o)

You presume correctly.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (0mRoj)

532 Rock Hudson? Wasn't he from Poke-a-fella, Idaho?

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (CL76w)

533 There was an old tree out in Cali

Laid low by a wind that was howly....

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (qUNWi)

534 Never owned one, but since I'm widowed I've been advised by several folks to get one.

That's because they care about you.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (IcT7t)

535 I didn't mean to needle you, Blanco!

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (zc45R)

536 My bet: they are talking about becoming armed, but are not actually doing it. Kind of a sucker bet, really.
------------
I'm sure that they will be ***SHOCKED*** that there actually is NOT a gun show loop hole and they have to get a background check, fill out paperwork, and learn about how to use a gun, to say nothing about safety. Most of them can't be bothered because it may take some effort and **gasp** actual work.......the rest probably can't pass the background check....

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 09:46 PM (JNDQi)

*************************************

They'll pay someone else to do it for them. It's against the law but, you know, they're above it.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (/8r1I)

537 Even though he is no Reagan, I see parallels. I saw a reporter say, 'no matter what we say, they still love him.' Notice, not what he does, just what we say.

Another said he didn't do that much, he got lucky with a strong cabinet that was doing most of the good work he was credited with.

He got lucky. I wish much 'luck' for Donald.

Downside is I couldn't see another D after Reagan. I am such a loser.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (Qr8dA)

538 Sooner or later, Senate leadership's gonna get tired of emptying McCain's droolcup and changing his Depends.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at January 13, 2017 09:50 PM (611Lm)

539 TKAW- sorry for mocking your math. I misread the decimal point.

Posted by: Muldoon
****

Smart military blogs avoid math for a reason.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:50 PM (hVdx9)

540 529
Practicably nobody hated him.
Posted by: rickl
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Supposebly? Supposebly...
Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (zc45R)

It took me like ten tries to get that close.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2017 09:50 PM (sdi6R)

541 514. Yep. Even minimalist american is fabulously wealthy. Talk to an old timer or a recent immigrant.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (pRELs)

542 I didn't mean to needle you, Blanco!

No worries, we're still buds.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (IcT7t)

543 I thought fir a second that the tree puns were done.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (zu88C)

544 542 I didn't mean to needle you, Blanco!

No worries, we're still buds.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (IcT7t)

You're such a sap.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (0mRoj)

545 May I presume that if I were to consider the purchase of a firearm for protection, I might get some advice here?

Never owned one, but since I'm widowed I've been advised by several folks to get one.

You may safely so presume. And most of it will be good. There is one fairly frequent poster, Joe Biden, whose advice is often sub-optimal, however.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (DMUuz)

546 ONT up

Posted by: guy who doesn't get the job at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (V3IFq)

547 Well, I cedar aren't any good tree puns left.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:43 PM (wPiJc)

Well oak k then.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 09:51 PM (Jcg9Q)

548 I was pecan back at this thread, and realized how dad-gum locust you all could go.

Posted by: filbert at January 13, 2017 09:52 PM (s5o+q)

549 539 TKAW- sorry for mocking your math. I misread the decimal point.

Posted by: Muldoon
****

Smart military blogs avoid math for a reason.
----------
It's Not like Muldoon's a rocket surgeon.........

Posted by: lindafell de spair deplorable xenophobic redneck at January 13, 2017 09:52 PM (JNDQi)

550 Gnood

Posted by: eleven at January 13, 2017 09:52 PM (qUNWi)

551 I'm sure that they will be ***SHOCKED*** that there actually is NOT a gun show loop hole and they have to get a background check, fill out paperwork, and learn about how to use a gun, to say nothing about safety. Most of them can't be bothered because it may take some effort and **gasp** actual work.......the rest probably can't pass the background check....

Posted by: lindafell de spair
****

And yet they will continue parroting the gun show loophole lie. I have seen this sort of thing with my own eyes. Would not have believed it otherwise.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 13, 2017 09:52 PM (hVdx9)

552 I thought fir a second that the tree puns were done.

Posted by: Mortimer,

*****

Nope. Jump right in if you wish to opine.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 13, 2017 09:52 PM (wPiJc)

553 Will the Democrats run their own version of what they think Trump is in 2020?

I can see them running a "liberal Trump" but I can also see them failing miserably. They might think that some clown like Edward Schultz would have wide appeal.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at January 13, 2017 09:53 PM (nvMvs)

554 519 510 Well, I cedar aren't any good tree puns left.
Posted by: Muldoon
--------------
Well, maybe we should just leaf then.
***********
I pine for the good old days, and even balsam now and then.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at January 13, 2017 09:53 PM (611Lm)

555 These puns are making me pine for a .50...

Posted by: SMFH at January 13, 2017 09:53 PM (CRotO)

556 Sisters and Brethren, we have 7 more days of this intolerable, but required wait. Then, end of the beginning, as Churchill said. And the reckoning, say we all.

Posted by: Eromero at January 13, 2017 09:53 PM (zLDYs)

557 I plan to stick to my gums and finish this thread.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 13, 2017 09:55 PM (zu88C)

558 Awesome article. Makes me culturally and politically hawt.

Let me tell you, I never imagined that the election of Donald Trump could produce such a wide-ranging blast of hope and energy to those of us who have been TRULY living in the shadows for so long.

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#531 527 May I presume that if I were to consider the purchase of a firearm for protection, I might get some advice here?

Never owned one, but since I'm widowed I've been advised by several folks to get one.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 13, 2017 09:48 PM (nQ10o)

You presume correctly.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 13, 2017 09:49 PM (0mRoj)

This is the year I'm going to make it happen. Got my permit over 3 years ago - time to make this real.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, 348 times at January 13, 2017 09:56 PM (tHwdc)

559 "Look at some of the old Stickley and other Craftsman houses and
furnishings. Luxurious and classy and the best, really, the best. But
still simple and durable and economical because they lasted so long and
never really went out of style."

My first house was a Story and a half 800 square feet with 2 kids and a wife. And I didn't think about it being small. Hell growing up my family of 8 lived in something only a little larger. Lots of inner city dwellers live in less. But expectations have grown over time. And maybe somewhat shamefully I am a single guy in a 1500 square foot ranch. I have looked into getting something smaller but the location or price difference just aint there to make the move worthwhile.

Posted by: Willy J. at January 13, 2017 09:56 PM (W6Ch1)

560 >>Jim Nabors, who was on the Andy Griffith show, was gay.

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Posted by: Jim at January 13, 2017 09:56 PM (/Nite)

561 556 Sisters and Brethren, we have 7 more days of this intolerable, but required wait
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Oh, no - Dont worry. I'm sure we'll be on to fish, cheese, or equestrian puns by tomorrow.

Posted by: Chi at January 13, 2017 09:56 PM (zc45R)

562 525. Obligatory;

Sing, Brother Heckler! Sing, Brother Koch!

https://youtu.be/uhKUDe3K_vY

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 13, 2017 09:57 PM (pRELs)

563 Maybe the guy is the son of Satan. Maybe he is. Maybe we have left our minds behind at the curb. We will need to be careful, going forward, that we do not help Satan. But we're just human. Weak, lost, human. Woe is us. I suppose that the best approach is to figure that we are here for such a short time, that nothing good or bad that we do will matter in the long run. That's comforting. I feel better already.

Posted by: goon at January 13, 2017 09:57 PM (EaQ6/)

564 Trump got the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians to support a loud mouth pussy grabbing big city billionaire who clearly doesn't spend much time in the Bible.

Who else could have done that?

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 13, 2017 07:28 PM (Jcg9Q)

Simple enough. He's not actively hostile to their interests, like the Bitch of Benghazi is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2017 09:58 PM (bG+ug)

565 I would suggest full gas tanks, full cupboards full of good canned goods, lots of water stocked up. If the Russians were gonna hack, what better day than Jan. 20th., to put a guys dick into the vice.

Posted by: goon at January 13, 2017 10:00 PM (EaQ6/)

566 Come on Kim Jong-in, unleash your best stuff on the 20th. Let's get the party started. Flatten the playing field, so to speak, and show the white man that his day is done ... so that he will finally begin to fight back. It couldn't come too soon.

Posted by: goon at January 13, 2017 10:03 PM (EaQ6/)

567 The article looks great, I will read it for sure. Thanks for posting this!

Posted by: jocon307 at January 13, 2017 10:06 PM (4WPdG)

568 Sorry, Kim, I meant Kim Jong-un! Shit man, I am so sorry. Please don't nuke me, you pudgy little bastard, homicidal maniac!

Donald, as soon as you get the keys to the football, let it rip! It would solve so many lingering problems. And, if nothing else, you would be able to determine who is going to honor their oaths and who isn't. And that's going to be a bad problem moving forward in a world full of communistmotherfuckersandtreehuggers. And peoples with feelings that need their water taken away from them for a couple of weeks.

Posted by: goon at January 13, 2017 10:09 PM (EaQ6/)

569
Tamarack. Just because.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at January 13, 2017 10:28 PM (BK3ZS)

570 "The gap between HR departments and the real world is a story obviously not being told very well."

It is and has been for a long time in the Dilbert strip.

Posted by: geoffb5 at January 13, 2017 10:58 PM (d3wbb)

571 For those of you new shooters looking to get firearms, a bit of advice.

Try to find a range that both gives basic firearm familiarization and rents different handguns to try. Handguns are better than they used to be but to accurately shoot and handle one, it needs to fit your hand in a specific way. A handgun that does not fit your hands results in problems in accuracy and control or in basic operation of the handgun.

Next, figure out do you want an all purpose home and carry outside of the home firearm? Do you want a different firearm for carry versus home?

Third, stick to a boring reputable brand--Glocks, Smith and Wessons, Rugers, Sig Sauer, Springfield XD's, all produce reasonably priced firearms with decent warranties. Many of these can be acquired in great shape second hand but take someone experienced if you do this or do your homework first.

Beware of the mall ninja, either behind the gun store counter, or online who may recommend expensive, inappropriate, or downright ineffective firearms for your purposes.

I would suggest reading some books by a few of the following trainers--Massad Ayoob, Gun Digest Guide's to Combat Handgunnery, 6th edition among others of his, and John Farnam's books on handguns and longarms. Paxton Quigley has some useful books for women, specifically. If you like revolvers, then check out Grant Cunningham. Gun Digest, in particular, has a large number of instructional books on firearms that are reasonably priced.

Last, realistically determine how much training that you are willing to do and your physical abilities. For most, longarms such as rifles and shotguns are easier for beginners to shoot accurately and operate. Usually, they are also more lethal than many handguns. Handguns though are portable as carrying longarms concealed is impractical.

Guns are no magic talismans to ward off evil, they require a certain amount of training to optimize your chances and to prevent self-injury. Range time on a regular basis is necessary and training by qualified instructors at the beginning can prevent bad habits from forming. Don't leave out learning about the gun laws in your state and locality, particularly those on self defense.

There are a lot of forums around that cater to shooters and almost all are willing to lend a hand to answer questions from new shooters. My personal favorite is The High Road because civility is a big issue there but others have their advantages as well.

Good luck.

Posted by: whig at January 13, 2017 11:00 PM (R15Tp)

572 we be fixin to have a non peaceful transition of power in the country. the first in 230 years. may the founders vision survive.

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at January 14, 2017 12:12 AM (fJQAI)

573 571: i have glock 26/27 and sig 239 (and others) like the 26/27 for carry, but accuracy its the sigs 10s at 25 ft. glocks are in body mass, but no dead on.
if scared out of my mind and under attack, I will go with the sig 239s (9/40)

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at January 14, 2017 12:17 AM (fJQAI)

574 That was a reasonably well written article. Fairly thoughtful for a liberal trying to understand and explain the apocalypse of their limited little world.

Usually, when they seem to get it, there are these 'stray voltage' sentences that ruin it all.

The author seems very close but I suspect he was wearing a straight jacket as he wrote it to keep him from slitting his wrists. Dying to mention LBGT (or whatever the ludicrous acromnym is) and/or scream out RACIST.

Meh. Same jackasses really think that they are among some special elite. They still seem like they are studying the mating patterns of knuckle dragging chimps in between avoiding the feces being thrown by said chimps.

The Trump voters that I know have more education, more degrees, and more professional experience than the same Crooked Hillary loving voters of NY and Mexifornia.

To watch them study us is hilarious.

Posted by: Fuq the Media at January 14, 2017 01:40 AM (yQ/rw)

575 Don't miss #253:

253
I think what Mr Wolff has written is quite damning: straight white men
risk all the social progress we have made just because they feel the
need to turn an election into a primal scream therapy session. I cant
imagine that people on the right actually regard an analyses like this
as being flattering.

Posted by: Emma Tiller (Oberlin) at January 13, 2017 08:20 PM (VSXuz)

Apparently a serious post since there were no follow ups offered.

Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at January 14, 2017 09:19 AM (Halhc)

576 Apt the the New York cultural hegemony is being destroyed by - a New Yorker.

There's a lot that bugs me about the discussions we're seeing now. I'll cite one: there is no one elite class, but several elite classes. And the ones seeing their status challenged are very new. One evidence of this is that for once (I can't think of another offhand) they see entry into the upper classes as immediately available, unlike the norm where what you hoped for was that your grandchildren would get in. (He's useless today, but Brooks's Bobos books are a pretty good look at this new self-designated aristos, partly because even then he was more than half-drunk with love of the new order. Now, of course, he's completely gone under.)

Posted by: George LeS at January 14, 2017 09:34 AM (+TcCF)

577 They didn't really mind Other-izing us as "bitter clingers" or shoving laws down our throats or bowing to our enemies or shipping our jobs overseas.

It's your turn now. Hit it, Bobby:

Ah, you never turned around to see the frowns
On the jugglers and the clowns when they all did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain't no good
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on a chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain't it hard when you discovered that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he took from you everything he could steal

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 14, 2017 04:56 PM (Ndje9)

578 >parochial and rate-limiting culture war on abortion and gay marriage

Yeah, because mass-murdering unborn babies and putting sodomy on the marriage altar -- and in the infantry and the Boy Scouts, and liquidating every small business or chapel that won't toe Der Party Line, and gelding medically healthy boys and letting them pee next to your daughter -- is so..... boring. Like, get over it.

Fuck that and fuck them. I'm not getting over anything. If the Stupid Party showed one tenth the moxie denouncing these Orwellian atrocities as Trump does denouncing The Establishment, they'd make headway. The problem isn't the cause. The problem is that they're polite.

Posted by: Phil Ossiferz Srone at January 15, 2017 09:35 PM (TlVL7)

579 They already have done far more than stamp their feet and color in the corner. Trump is a Bataan Death March to many of them.

Posted by: torabora at January 17, 2017 11:32 PM (RzQbP)

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