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ABCFakeNews "Reporter" Terry Moran: It's Okay for Buzzfeed to Publish Lies About Trump Because Trump Spread Lies About Obama's Birth Certificate

Nuance.

ABC News reporter Terry Moran suggested Wednesday that it's okay for news outlets to report uncorroborated allegations from a single, anonymous source about President-elect Donald Trump because he did the same thing when he alleged in 2012 that Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

[Terry Moran's tweets on this subject omitted; hit the link to see them]


So to parse his line of reasoning, Moran is covering BuzzFeed's malfeasance by suggesting journalists aren't obligated to publish only the truth that can be verified if the person who they’re covering has also spread untrue information. In other words: Donald Trump spreads falsehoods, so we can do the same about him!

The National Laughingstock's Fake News "Fact Checker" Glenn Kessler also thought to excuse the media by talking up Trump's Birtherism.

Oh: Formerly relevant writer from the 80s (or writer in his 80s, whichever) and current retard Stephen King says pretty much the same thing.

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Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 01:41 PM (eXSOZ)

2 Oh hey an empty comment. Oops.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 01:42 PM (eXSOZ)

3 Trump: You are lying liars that lie!

Press: I know you are but what am I?

Middle school never really ends does it?

Posted by: Lily Formerly of HotAir (Now from AoSHQ) at January 11, 2017 01:42 PM (vivhj)

4 To the extent Donald Trump spread the birth certificate rumors, he was only repeating allegations that had been made by Hillary's camp.

He also spent money trying to verify whether the birth certificate claims were true, and announced to the world that the investigation revealed the rumors to be false.

So how is that in any way like Buzzfeed/CNN?

Posted by: OCBill at January 11, 2017 01:43 PM (df+Zi)

5 Ace, stop making fun of me!!

Posted by: Louise Mensch at January 11, 2017 01:43 PM (OD2ni)

6 I'm confused, but that's hardly surprising.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 11, 2017 01:43 PM (0mRoj)

7 I am Post confused...

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2017 01:43 PM (Enq6K)

8 And the deer fucking continues.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2017 01:44 PM (V3IFq)

9 That monkey doesn't want to give up the top spot, and everyone is afraid to force it to dismount.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at January 11, 2017 01:45 PM (oZ6kz)

10 The "He started it!" defense. Popular with 7 year olds.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 11, 2017 01:45 PM (4WhSY)

11 This post was meant to be on the DVD extras track.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2017 01:47 PM (V3IFq)

12 I can see the green screen

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2017 01:47 PM (V3IFq)

13 [Terry Moran's tweets on this subject omitted; hit the link to see them]

Which link?...it's full of links.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2017 01:47 PM (Enq6K)

14 So much fail. The media have two advantages among the low info population, trust and status. When one goes, so does the other. They're already well on the way. After that press.conference today, Trump could take aggressive measures against them- jail the leakers and their editors, fines, more. And the public would cheer.

Posted by: trev006 at January 11, 2017 01:47 PM (wgEHX)

15 Honestly? I think it's possible the CIA leaked the paper, but Trump made them an ultimatum: either throw CNN/ BuzzFeed to the wolves or face the consequences.

Posted by: trev006 at January 11, 2017 01:50 PM (6K44c)

16 So, trust and credibility are no longer regarded as assets to purveyors of news?

Posted by: V the K at January 11, 2017 01:51 PM (O7MnT)

17 Clinton News Network=FAKE NEWS!

The truth is OUT.....FINALLY!!!!

Posted by: Myshiba at January 11, 2017 01:53 PM (n20xt)

18 So does this have something to do with horny monkeys?

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at January 11, 2017 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

19 If the first comment is empty, can it really be considered a first?

Posted by: rickl at January 11, 2017 01:55 PM (zoehZ)

20 That clown IS retarded.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 11, 2017 01:55 PM (zllbf)

21 So, trust and credibility are no longer regarded as assets to purveyors of news?

Close. Trysts and credulity are now regarded as news by surveyors of ass.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 01:55 PM (eXSOZ)

22 How come this post is below the monkey getting his sexy on post?

Posted by: IC at January 11, 2017 01:55 PM (a0IVu)

23 Federal broadcast licenses should get pulled for this shit.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at January 11, 2017 01:56 PM (HJNe9)

24 Hey guys, let's ask Bill Wynn about what the implication in Harambe's death will mean.
*makes all the popcorn*

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 01:57 PM (eXSOZ)

25 Because I'm apparently a glutton for punishment I have NYT on my facebook feed. Right now there's a live feed where they ask the audience to ask questions of some poor Trump supporter who's agreed to try and answer. The ire and shaming directed at this woman in the comments is truly amazing. They have no sense of amount of intolerance they show when accusing others of the same

Posted by: maybe after 8 years of hibernating I can re-emerge at January 11, 2017 01:57 PM (YqYBc)

26 24 Hey guys, let's ask Bill Wynn about what the implication in Harambe's death will mean.
*makes all the popcorn*
Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 01:57 PM (eXSOZ)

Looks like an early night for Harambe.

Posted by: Will Bynn at January 11, 2017 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

27 Trump must have read Voltaire:

"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Infested With Russians? Use Commie-B-Gon! Available at the Outrage Outlet at January 11, 2017 01:58 PM (hLRSq)

28 Trust Busting, It's time for some media corperations to be broken up

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 11, 2017 02:00 PM (dKiJG)

29 German Green Party offers Government-paid free sex with hookers.

http://tinyurl.com/jcd9tlx

Posted by: V the K at January 11, 2017 02:01 PM (O7MnT)

30 Is Bill Wynn a real person or a sock like any of the Cloggensteins?

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at January 11, 2017 02:01 PM (HJNe9)

31 ...guess the Corgis didn't get the undernood message...

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:05 PM (VHGGJ)

32 Might have been real once but it's mostly socks now.

Posted by: Will Bynn at January 11, 2017 02:05 PM (RD7QR)

33 or can't stop with the monkey thang!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:05 PM (VHGGJ)

34 31 ...guess the Corgis didn't get the undernood message...
Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:05 PM (VHGGJ)

Interspecies sex is MUCH more interesting. At least to the Horde.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at January 11, 2017 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

35 As somebody pointed out the press tried to bury the Clinton fucking a intern and they had credibly sources for that story.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 11, 2017 02:06 PM (dKiJG)

36 and I can totally see 4chan being behind this Trump pissoir nonsense - like their "piss your pants for feminism' twitter troll from last year!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:07 PM (VHGGJ)

37 ...and don't look at 4chan if you like being sane! I'm too gone to care...

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:08 PM (VHGGJ)

38 Undernoods are good noods.

Posted by: filbert at January 11, 2017 02:09 PM (s5o+q)

39 The US bombed a baby milk factory. Top-notch, fully vetted, unbiased reporting for decades!

Posted by: Peter Arnett at January 11, 2017 02:09 PM (yEAdf)

40 ...and don't look at 4chan if you like being sane! I'm too gone to care...
Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:08 PM (VHGGJ)


Events lately have brought to mind the old Hunter F. Thompson saying:

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

Turn pro, 4chan, turn pro . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 11, 2017 02:09 PM (s5o+q)

41 does this undernood have the little animals on it so I can tell what goes with what?

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:10 PM (VHGGJ)

42 Is Bill Wynn a real person or a sock like any of the Cloggensteins?
I'd say that the original (forgotten, but not gone) could be a Poe and exceptionally well crafted, except that on another forum I know a Bill Wynn type. The hot take from the dippiest asspickle-munching cabbagehead is what he'll go with, and allow to subsume any and all actual relevant facts. The Hot Take then becomes the "facts".

That then serves as immunity to any actual discussion of the real facts, which couples with massive condescension when bringing said "facts" to bear. Yes, he *does* believe he's entitled to both his own opinion and his own facts - and he's not even aware of it!

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 02:10 PM (eXSOZ)

43 does this undernood have the little animals on it so I can tell what goes with what?
Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:10 PM (VHGGJ)


Animals? Like in a press corps?

Posted by: HRC (who will NEVER be POTUS) at January 11, 2017 02:11 PM (s5o+q)

44 should be press corpse, n'est pas?

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 11, 2017 02:12 PM (VHGGJ)

45 Trump used to say of the birth certificate "there is something on there he doesn't want us to see"

And the version that came out now is essentially verified to be fake. Sheriff Joe and others had real experts look at the document and revealed several problems. Trump was probably right, there is something Obama is hiding. Obama lies about everything, so it is hardly a surprise he might lie about that.

Clinton News Network needs a new name I guess. Clown News Network? That's a clown question bro!

Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2017 02:12 PM (/aIFg)

46 what will CNN do now that the Trump has dissed them so totally - more false allegations and rumors??

Posted by: geezer der mensch - 4chan or bust at January 11, 2017 02:13 PM (VHGGJ)

47 Clown News Network? That's a clown question bro!

Posted by: illiniwek at January 11, 2017 02:12 PM (/aIFg)

"That's my line!"

~ Bryce Harper

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 11, 2017 02:14 PM (8hICw)

48 Did anyone here watch the press conference? It looked like pandemonium.

Posted by: CA Token at January 11, 2017 02:15 PM (z+8LM)

49 does this undernood have the little animals on it so I can tell what goes with what?
Posted by: geezer der mensch



Deer goes with mashed potatoes, gravy, green beans and fried apples.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2017 02:16 PM (qpKia)

50 Clinton News Network needs a new name I guess. Clown News Network?



DNN - Defunct News Network

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2017 02:17 PM (qpKia)

51 Is it too late for "Dicks out for Harambe?"

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at January 11, 2017 02:18 PM (m40v5)

52 after the New Year's Eve nonsense, CNN could be the Drunk News Network, or the Pierced Ear Network!

Posted by: geezer der mensch - 4chan or bust at January 11, 2017 02:18 PM (VHGGJ)

53 While we're a small private club here in the undernood, how the hell did the other thread get to hundreds of comments with no Andrew Mendoza jokes?

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 02:18 PM (eXSOZ)

54 How about Dicks who think they are The Batman?

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at January 11, 2017 02:19 PM (m40v5)

55 Is the monkey considering himself to be "getting lucky?"

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 11, 2017 02:19 PM (ONH2e)

56 Andrew Mendoza - there's a name that doesn't get heard much these days...

Posted by: geezer der mensch - 4chan or bust at January 11, 2017 02:20 PM (VHGGJ)

57 While we're a small private club here in the undernood, how the hell did the other thread get to hundreds of comments with no Andrew Mendoza jokes?





Monkey humping a deer jokes write themselves.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 11, 2017 02:21 PM (qpKia)

58 Reggie and Barky were in Japan together?

Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at January 11, 2017 02:22 PM (oBuXO)

59 and the Horde jump on those jokes like a monkey on a .... whatever...

Posted by: geezer der mensch - 4chan or bust at January 11, 2017 02:22 PM (VHGGJ)

60 Is the monkey considering himself to be "getting lucky?"
Posted by: R. DUKE at January 11, 2017 02:19 PM (ONH2e)


Once you've had deer, anything else is queer.

Posted by: filbert at January 11, 2017 02:23 PM (s5o+q)

61 "30 Is Bill Wynn a real person or a sock like any of the Cloggensteins?"


My guess is that he was a concern troll (lifelong Republican, etc.) that showed before the election to prop up good polls for Hillary and downplay any good polls for Trump. He was hilariously pathetic and spawned a lot of hilarious socks.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 11, 2017 02:23 PM (OD2ni)

62 what will CNN do now that the Trump has dissed them so totally - more false allegations and rumors??
Posted by: geezer der mensch


You know how there is a power to a power in math, right?

Like that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 11, 2017 02:24 PM (V3IFq)

63 61 He still comes around.

Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2017 02:24 PM (r/0kC)

64 Is this thread caught in a time warp?

Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2017 02:25 PM (r/0kC)

65 Hello!

Posted by: Pepe at January 11, 2017 02:26 PM (iztiu)

66 Is this thread caught in a time warp?
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2017 02:25 PM (r/0kC)


Ace's time machine is acting up again, perhaps.

Posted by: filbert at January 11, 2017 02:26 PM (s5o+q)

67 Anyone listening to Terry Moran talk about the Menendez trial would realize what a douche drama queen he is.

Posted by: ejo at January 11, 2017 02:26 PM (il4FI)

68 New under-posts to be a thing now on Ace of Spades.

Posted by: Max Power at January 11, 2017 02:27 PM (q177U)

69 The definition of a Jihadist: A person who fights wars, or helps those that fights wars, to establish an Islamic Government.

The reason Putin is bombing Aleppo is because a bunch of people who fit that definition above took the place over. Granted Putin is doing it to protect Assad, but it does not change the motive for the people who took Aleppo over.

Someone should explain that to Marco Rubio, John McCain, etc. Jihadists are not "Freedom Fighters". They are not a group of people we should be supporting even against the Russians.

Memo: There are some nations and groups worse than Russians in this world...And leave it to Marco Rubio to find one of those groups to support.

Posted by: William Eaton at January 11, 2017 02:27 PM (MuTTO)

70 Maybe the monkey deer thread is pinned to the top. Like they do on Twitter...Special stuff gets pinned...

Posted by: Me at January 11, 2017 02:28 PM (EwGtF)

71 For those who doubt the wild ride the next 4 years brings, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Heads will explode, cocks will be hard, some assembly required

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 11, 2017 02:29 PM (/CIN4)

72 48
Did anyone here watch the press conference? It looked like pandemonium.

Posted by: CA Token at January 11, 2017 02:15 PM (z+8LM)

It was gold, Jerry....GOLD!

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2017 02:29 PM (Enq6K)

73 Overthread of noodness.

Posted by: filbert at January 11, 2017 02:30 PM (s5o+q)

74 Because Trump Spread Lies About Obama's Birth Certificate

Now, that's a lie. Barky has not, to this date, ever released his actual birth certificate ... and those jpegs they sent out were nothing short of total bullshit. See Sheriff Joe's Posse's report for a detailed examination of the photoshopped bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2017 02:31 PM (zc3Db)

75 Mendoza thread for old times' sake:
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=337134

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 11, 2017 02:31 PM (eXSOZ)

76 "63 61 He still comes around."


Of course I do. As a lifelong Republican, I have a duty to explain to you rubes that Trump has no chance and Hillary will win. It will be ab early night. We should have nominated Jeb.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at January 11, 2017 02:31 PM (OD2ni)

77 Can the monkey make the deer cross eyed?

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 11, 2017 02:34 PM (ONH2e)

78 They are who we thought they were.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 11, 2017 02:44 PM (QQ+il)

79 Dead thread and all, but for *some* cohort of liberals, liberalism exists to excuse them for immoral or amoral behavior.

They lie, cheat, steal, hurl invective (racial or otherwise), throw oreos at black politicians, and at the end of the day they say their pure intent excuses them.

Which is, of course, nonsense.

People like to say "this or that is what led to Trump," I'm sure you can go back as far as (rather appropriately) the 1986 Sessions hearing and still not be at the bottom of it.

But that vicious slander is a good place to start anyway.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 11, 2017 02:46 PM (wB8Tg)

80 P.S. AFAIK the first source of the rumors of foreign birth for Obama were in promotional material for Obama's first autobiography in 1991.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 11, 2017 02:49 PM (wB8Tg)

81 Rick Wilson.... What is it with Ricks?

Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2017 02:51 PM (XPhxx)

82 I have a developing take on all of this...

What exactly is everyone so terrified of Trump finding out and throwing some light on?

I have some ideas, but they veer WAY OVER THERE into batshit crazyville and I don't want to go there yet.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 11, 2017 02:52 PM (F0ZHr)

83 You misspelled "Moron."

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable & Profoundly Unserious at January 11, 2017 02:56 PM (cOHS7)

84 My friends, we have EVERYTHING to fear with Donald "Golden Shower" Trump as president.

Posted by: John McCain, True Maverick at January 11, 2017 03:00 PM (cOHS7)

85 I have a developing take on all of this...

What exactly is everyone so terrified of Trump finding out and throwing some light on?

I have some ideas, but they veer WAY OVER THERE into batshit crazyville and I don't want to go there yet.


Gotta be Area 52.

Seriously, I think they are legitimately worried about Trump getting top secret briefings, then tweeting out, "You won't believe what I just found out..."

Posted by: gewa76 at January 11, 2017 03:20 PM (B6OKy)

86 When can we start calling this pissgate?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 11, 2017 03:22 PM (xfb67)

87 Nobody (other than perhaps Obama) told any lies about his birth certificate. They asked to see it and dirtbag Obama refused to show it ... until Trump weighed in and told him to produce the damned birth certificate.

Why was all this necessary? Because OBAMA told his publisher he was born in Kenya, a claim that was posted on the publisher's website.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 11, 2017 03:31 PM (AphMS)

88 Terry Moran........nuff sayed

Posted by: saf at January 11, 2017 03:36 PM (+zN6H)

89 86 inhonor of Ben Smith, I suggest we call it Pussantgate.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 11, 2017 03:56 PM (m/vQu)

90 Funny I didn't know President Trump was a teleprompter reader.

Posted by: SOMESASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at January 11, 2017 04:08 PM (nQHw/)

91 Typical lib mis-remembering and legend lore. Trump spread no rumors about Obama's birth. Every time I saw him he said "I simply want to see it."

Posted by: The Narrative at January 11, 2017 06:10 PM (2mC6G)

92 Why was all this necessary? Because OBAMA told his publisher he was born in Kenya, a claim that was posted on the publisher's website.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 11, 2017 03:31 PM (AphMS)
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Not only that, but somebody I know from Illinois remembers it being Obama who claimed to be from Africa to out-black his opponent for the state senate seat. Obama was middle-class, wasn't from the ghetto and he was half-black. African trumped that, so he turned it on, as the guy I know tells it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 11, 2017 06:15 PM (2mC6G)

93 Aaaaaand the birth certificate that Obama released to address Trump's challenge was a demonstrable fake. FACT.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, 348 times at January 11, 2017 08:49 PM (tHwdc)

94 Not only that, but somebody I know from Illinois
remembers it being Obama who claimed to be from Africa to out-black his
opponent for the state senate seat. Obama was middle-class, wasn't from
the ghetto and he was half-black. African trumped that, so he turned it
on, as the guy I know tells it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 11, 2017 06:15 PM (2mC6G)

All over the book jacket - and don't tell me that the narcissist never carefully examined every square inch of the book jacket that proclaimed that the JEF was Kenyan-born. FACT.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, 348 times at January 11, 2017 08:51 PM (tHwdc)

95 Buzzfeed and CNN just reported that President Elect Trump paid not only the monkey, but also the deer for their performance.

Posted by: Marooned at January 11, 2017 09:36 PM (KdYVH)

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