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Jury Sentences Dylan Roof to Death
Good. Doesn't seem all that complicated.
But you know what seems very complicated, at least to some? Whether or not the thugs in Chicago attacked the disabled white man on the basis of his race. Actually, that question has become less complicated of late; the media has decided to characterize the black-on-white race attack in Chicago as indeed a case of bias crime -- the victim, you see, was chosen on the basis of his mental disability, making this a bias crime against the mentally handicapped. But not against a white victim, or against a Trump voter. Only Officially Approved Categories of Persons can ever be viciously attacked on the basis of their race or ideology.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: THE CAPTAIN at January 10, 2017 04:54 PM (q177U)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 04:54 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 04:54 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 04:55 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 10, 2017 04:55 PM (VmBC5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 10, 2017 04:55 PM (OzJeO)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 04:55 PM (BP2E4)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2017 04:56 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 04:57 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 04:57 PM (BP2E4)
I'd settle for a week's pillorying before dragging his sorry ass before a firing squad.
Sometimes, punishment IS about retribution. And deterrence to others who are not otherwise sane enough to think about consequences.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 04:57 PM (s5o+q)
I'd like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I like to hold it in my arm
And keep it company
It's the real thing
Posted by: undocumented illegal journalist at January 10, 2017 04:57 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 04:57 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 04:54 PM (mpXpK)
It's on Drudge.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2017 04:58 PM (SRKgf)
(clean up might suck, though)
Posted by: Max Power at January 10, 2017 04:58 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (r/0kC)
I have a place already picked out. It's called My Pillory.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (BP2E4)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: I Need a Drink at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (bKxiT)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (r/0kC)
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 10, 2017 05:00 PM (toH8T)
No more Lightning Rides. That's "cruel and usual". Instead you get the needle and go to sleep like a sick old dog.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:00 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (r/0kC)
Only if they still have their tusks.
(I'm obviously feeling a bit vindictive today.)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (s5o+q)
The old NORK treatment.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (mZLmb)
We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn
Burn motherfucker burn
Posted by: Dylan gets a botched electrocution at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (vZ9Fw)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (r/0kC)
That's sick, I laughed.
Posted by: Max Power at January 10, 2017 05:01 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: Sloth at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (X7MoD)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (92kX2)
By publicly broadcasting it they were clearly intending to terrorize their target's ethnic group....
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 04:59 PM (r/0kC)
............
They haven't found the Knights Templar latrine yet?
The suspense is killin' me.
Posted by: wth at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
I still say explosives would be a model form of execution. Just strap on a couple sticks on TNT to someones face and BAM!
Let Juan Williams light the very very short fuse.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 04:55 PM (LAe3v)
It's my belief that after he takes his last breath he will see that he was wrong about being a brave martyr.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:03 PM (n0xeO)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:03 PM (BP2E4)
OK, which one of you idjits turned off the language filter in ace's brain? Fuck all, i LOVE it! Happy days are here again, oh, happy days are here again, do do doo do do do do do dooo ... happy days are here agaaaaaaiiiin!
Posted by: imp at January 10, 2017 05:03 PM (XIXZz)
Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (Halhc)
Funny, I didn't hear where the poor mis-understood Youts who were turning their lives around while beating a "handicapped" man said retard, or spaz to him... Seems they were saying they hated whitey and trump voters....
Posted by: deplorable donna
Victim probably has a higher IQ than the attackers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)
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I'm sure my gut reaction would be an immediate 'yes' to the death penalty but with a decision of that magnitude, I'd probably let it simmer for at least a few minutes to see how it felt.
I'd force myself to really think about it at any rate.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: Max Power at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (iztiu)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: imp at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (XIXZz)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (wCEn4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)
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Agreed. I was on a jury this summer and send a guy to prison for a couple of years - and we took that pretty seriously.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)
I understand what you're saying but I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it. That's just me.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (n0xeO)
All the racial healing...
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 10, 2017 05:00 PM (toH8T)
From last thread:
I give up. Who was the #nevertrump-er who showed up last night? I didn't see any wild comments on the ONT.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (3jGss)
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How about we just lock them in a room and come back in a few months?
Posted by: Ruggieri degli Ubaldini at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (X7E8f)
I expected them to go with, "See what Trump has made us do? We're frightened and acting out!"
Posted by: gewa76 at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (B6OKy)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM (iztiu)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:03 PM (n0xeO)
We don't serve his kind up here.
Not without repentance, anyway.
Posted by: St. Peter at the Pearly Gates at January 10, 2017 05:06 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2017 05:06 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (39g3+)
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What a charming, classy bunch of folks the CBC is.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (xeeHA)
I'm guessing this won't be one of Obamas pardons. Imagine that.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (BP2E4)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:03 PM (BP2E4)
I struggle with this one myself. I believe there is a point to life. That there is something miraculous to the mere existence of it that should not be casually sniffed out.
However, for some people, they are not people anymore- they have revealed themselves to be demons in human form. Evil should not be left to fester and blight the world.
May God have mercy on me, but this is a dude who should go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (iztiu)
Posted by: THE CAPTAIN at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (iztiu)
Yeah, if he's ever released into the general population.
He's gonna wind up catching a sharpened toothbrush to the kidneys ten or twelve times.
Or a reasonable facsimile there of.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (vZ9Fw)
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
Now there's no call to confuse the issue with facts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (SRKgf)
57
Ants. Death by ants.
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:05 PM
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Yep. Give him the boats.
Posted by: irright at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (Halhc)
True. But caught in the act of an unusually heinous crime goes a looooong way to making it easier.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (mZLmb)
Posted by: USNtakim at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (hMqvx)
out convinced he's a brave martyr, instead of a nutso nancy.
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Why hello Mr Roof. I really love your work...so great to get to see you down here.
I've assigned Mr Azreal here as your guide to Hades. He'll make sure you feel right at home.
Anyway though, I don't want to keep you from your flaying, so I'll let Mr Azreal get right on it. And don't forget you've got an appointment for your first lava bath afterwords!
Posted by: Satan at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2017 05:08 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (r/0kC)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (iztiu)
Posted by: Moron Pundit
Can we, once and for all, stop with the "Civil Rights hero" BS about John Lewis. The man is a moronic whore who was willing to smear other Americans for a political advantage.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Charles Manson at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (DpOmP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:04 PM (39g3+
I wouldn't be surprised if the CBC obtained some back-up copies from the artist and they've stashed them away in case the copy on display gets destroyed.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ujg0T)
they don't find him guilty but to be the ones responsible for ending
someone else's life, that's a duty to be taken seriously.
I was talking about my time on the grand jury last night. If somebody had told us we could've sentenced some of those people to death, we would've done it. Personally. Immediately. In the jury room.
Some people just deserve killing.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (qJhUV)
But that would be a leader, not a politician.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (BP2E4)
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (48hJI)
The following article has Inside Baseball about how Megyn was a pawn in the plans of Lachlan and James to push out Ailes in order to take over Fox and to build a more integrated global platform. And then came Trump.
http://tinyurl.com/j2pou7s
I agree with the article that Megyn will eventually wind up on the MSNBC Island of Misfit Toys.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ujg0T)
Would you want to walk around knowing a part of him lived on inside you?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (E1zw7)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: prime minister justin zoolander trudeau at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (lJXY3)
Posted by: Willy J. at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (W6Ch1)
Some people just deserve killing.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (qJhUV)
That's powerful testimony.
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM (3jGss)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (s5o+q)
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If that was the only kidney I could get, I'd cope.
Daughter's gotta have a father.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM (xeeHA)
But that would be a leader, not a politician.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (BP2E4)
No, that would be a man of principle, not a leftist self absorbed narcissist who only opposes the death penalty because he believes it's use is racist when used on black people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM (92kX2)
In some cases, I would agree. In this case, Roof not only admitted he did it he said he felt like he had to do it. No remorse whatsoever. He's an evil piece of shit.
It would've taken me no time at all to say zap him.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM (/tuJf)
Manolo! Another margarita!!
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (GX63o)
Roof got convicted in federal court in what would ordinarily have been a
state court case. Not sure, but this may give additional grounds for
appeal.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (SIY7D)
If his lawyers are worth a shit, and he lets them, they can probably get him off on the death penalty for the federal case. I posted the actual federal law here at AOSHQ a few week back. The feds are not supposed to have jurisdiction unless the State is not taking action to assure justice.
Somebody from Obama's corrupt DOJ had to come down here and swear that before a federal judge who had to know the State fully intends to go forward with a capitol murder trial in a few weeks.
This is capitol murder which is not supposed to be a federal crime.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 05:10 PM (s5o+q)
If some non-white person on the Organ Transplant list is saved, it would be karmic, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)
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Agreed. I was on a jury this summer and send a guy to prison for a couple of years - and we took that pretty seriously.
Posted by: Weasel
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WE gave a guy 60 years for kidnapping, assault, and multiple sexual assaults. From having been a juror on that, I could definitely be on a death sentence case. The prrof has to be there tho.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (+aCe4)
Could Dylan Roof's organs be harvested?
Posted by: Curmudgeon
Doesn't the lethal injection juice damage the organs?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: USNtakim at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (hMqvx)
had told us we could've sentenced some of those people to death, we
would've done it. Personally. Immediately. In the jury room.
Some people just deserve killing.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (qJhUV)
With wiffle ball bats?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Pearl Clutcher at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (9QpI0)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (FmNHR)
And now I have an idea for a horror movie called 'Evil Eye'.
Posted by: gewa76 at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (B6OKy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (IqV8l)
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All the more reason to shoot him in the head.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (xeeHA)
I think he has since died but it's unconscionable to me that one of the AB's leaders that killed a prison guard was allowed to live. He should have been executed the next day.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (n0xeO)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ujg0T)
To me, this feels like being placed at the very top of a big ol' slippery slope.
So, no.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:07 PM (92kX2)
Gotta agree with this. I'm morally for but practically against capital punishment, because the criminal justice system is run by humans, and humans make mistakes. If evidence turns up and exonerates someone who's done 20 years in prison (which has happened), well... I guess we have to come up with some kind of compensation. If evidence turns up and exonerates someone who's dead (which also happens), well, shrug, what can you do.
Some cases, though, yeah, go ahead, knock yourself out.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (8ZskC)
Could Dylan Roof's organs be harvested?
Posted by: Curmudgeon
Doesn't the lethal injection juice damage the organs?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
There are ways.
Posted by: Mademoiselle Le Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (qJhUV)
Can't find the specific reference, but I swear I once read a Heinlein quote to the effect that "Someone too sick to live in a civil society, is too sick to live!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (wCEn4)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (3jGss)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (ujg0T)
Heh ..... yes.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover Karl Marx at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (gMcji)
Posted by: Amish Lutheran at January 10, 2017 05:16 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2017 05:16 PM (4e+hS)
http://tinyurl.com/ju369kg
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (ODxAs)
More #winning.
Thank you, President-Elect Trump!
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:16 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ujg0T)
If they electrocute him they should make him hold a plug in his mouth that connects to a blender. Then the spectators can all enjoy tasty pina coladas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (8ZskC)
I think we are talking about death by harvesting.
Posted by: THE CAPTAIN at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Mademoiselle Le Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:15 PM (LAe3v)
Madame. I did not work so hard in the french revolution to be called "mademoiselle."
Posted by: Madame Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (92kX2)
So when they were shouting f*ck Trump and f*ck white people what they really meant was f*ck mentally disabled people?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Max Power at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (q177U)
Ohhh.. this is interesting.
http://tinyurl.com/ju369kg
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:11 PM (ODxAs)
Funny. There was an "Anonymous" youtube video last night stating that Trump was going to use an Obama-signed law to declare Soros a national security risk or some such. I took to google and all I could find were so-called questionable "fake news" sites discussing any of the same types of Trump going after Soros stories.
Interesting indeed. That would go a long way to draining the swamp.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (GX63o)
previously convicted of homicide. That's at least 800 people that
would not have been murdered if the death penalty had been applied the
first time.
The recidivism rate of those who receive the death penalty is 0%.
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Pepe at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (iztiu)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:09 PM (qJhUV)
Can't find the specific reference, but I swear I once read a Heinlein quote to the effect that "Someone too sick to live in a civil society, is too sick to live!"
Posted by: Hrothgar
People laugh when Texans joke about that being a legal defense. "He needed killing, yer honor!"
Yeah. There is basis in fact for that.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (mZLmb)
punishment, because the criminal justice system is run by humans, and
humans make mistakes.
***
That goes both ways though. How many violent criminals have been released from prison and then committed more violent acts?
Though I do think removing prosecutorial immunity would go a long way to solving this issue.
Oh Mr Prosecutor you intentionally sat on evidence showing the guy we just executed was innocent of the crime? Well we are charging you with first degree murder and if convicted you will face the same punishment.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Willy J. at January 10, 2017 05:18 PM (W6Ch1)
Posted by: Madame Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:18 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 10, 2017 05:18 PM (lJXY3)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:17 PM (lKyWE)
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It's because they can't be racist so they are out of practice and don't know what slurs to use.
It's sort of like how they can't get IDs to vote or whatever.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at January 10, 2017 05:12 PM
Manolos. Doing the work that The Paolo will not do.
Posted by: Paolo at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (DMUuz)
Not if you take them out first.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 10, 2017 05:14 PM (oVJmc)
It's not like he's going to need them in the very near future.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (wCEn4)
Posted by: the Butcher at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (AGJqR)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:13 PM (+aCe4)
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Yep. I had no problem with making the decision though - and I'm pretty sure I could do the same in a capital punishment case.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (Sfs6o)
http://tinyurl.com/ju369kg
Orban/Hungary have been fighting the immigration silliness bigly!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (39g3+)
I don't know you could find a doctor willing to harvest organs to execute the death penalty in the US. Although I might find a personal exception to the slippery slope of this if the convicted agreed to allow it.
Of course in other countries they just kidnap people.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (ODxAs)
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No Mr Trump,
I expect you to lose the election!
Posted by: George Goldfinger Soros at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Judge Frugal at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (9QpI0)
Though I do think removing prosecutorial immunity would go a long way to solving this issue.
Oh Mr Prosecutor you intentionally sat on evidence showing the guy we just executed was innocent of the crime? Well we are charging you with first degree murder and if convicted you will face the same punishment.
I've said that for 30+ years.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (mZLmb)
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (hjpzi)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (wCEn4)
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Meaning of Life
Part Five: Live Organ Transplants
Posted by: Amish Lutheran at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (2mC6G)
Sometimes you gotta take one for the team.
Posted by: DaveA at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (39g3+)
The thing is, ejecting him would probably have zero effect on his efforts.
Now, sending him to Israel might be entertaining.
Posted by: Madame Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (92kX2)
Hindus might argue with you, but I think your Maths is pretty sound.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (hjpzi)
Posted by: Willy J. at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (W6Ch1)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (6Ll1u)
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It would be hilarious if RFK jr comes back with a poorly sourced "vaccines cause autism" report and Trump specifically slams him for it and says that's why you can't trust the science hating left (or something like that).
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (X7E8f)
Say what you want about ISIS, but defenestration is about as cost effective a method of execution as you can find.
Posted by: Judge Frugal
You'd think so, but no. Who knew Bounty paper towels were so expensive?
Posted by: ISIS at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM (LAe3v)
Roof is a coward. He sought out unarmed people, good and decent people, to murder.
If he wanted to be a martyr so bad, why not go seek out the New Black Panthers?
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM (m3iiU)
>>The recidivism rate of those who receive the death penalty is 0%.
Hindus might argue with you, but I think your Maths is pretty sound.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (hjpzi)
What do they know; they worship hamburgers.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM (GX63o)
Posted by: Madame Guillotine at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (92kX2)
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George Soros: involuntary hand-to-hand combatant against ISIS #2
Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (6Ll1u)
And the Commiecrats got that declared cruel and unusual.
Never mind that it was introduced as a humane alternative to the gallows or the electric chair.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (ujg0T)
Didn't they release Hinckley? This guy shot a standing US President and is out and walking around.
I've got zero problems with the "what if we kill an innocent man" conundrum because I would say putting an innocent man behind bars for life is just as bad.
People die accidentally every day just driving to work, to undermine the entire justice system over the possibility of human error and allow the victims' family and friends to have to watch as these animals live to a ripe old age is a bigger injustice.
Posted by: Maritime at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (rLp05)
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What? I thought when I defriended people I just didn't get their candy crush requests anymore!
This is a BFD
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (X7E8f)
I was also on a federal jury this summer. There is a big difference between taking something not seriously and a very easy decision.
There wasn't a shadow of a doubt over whether he did the crime or whether he was remorseful. He deserves to die.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (/tuJf)
I've said that for 30+ years.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (mZLmb)
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People that knowingly bring fake charges against people should also be punished with whatever the penalty is for the crime they are making up. The burden of proof would have to be high.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (xeeHA)
Depends a lot on where you sent him. Russia wants him for crimes against the state. I think hard time in a Russian jail might put a crimp on his activities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (39g3+)
If Roof is some kind of martyr, then I am the Pope.
Roof is a coward. He sought out unarmed people, good and decent people, to murder.
If he wanted to be a martyr so bad, why not go seek out the New Black Panthers?
Posted by: Tilikum KAW
Simmer down. Nobody here thinks he's a martyr. He thinks he's one, because he's a nutbar.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:24 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ISIS at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM (LAe3v)
Just hose off the sidewalk, Dog of a Heretic. Sheesh.
Posted by: Ayatolla Rhuholla Khameini at January 10, 2017 05:24 PM (CPk08)
against the state. I think hard time in a Russian jail might put a
crimp on his activities.
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Pro tip - don't drink the tea.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:24 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM (m3iiU)
And if he had done THAT, he might have gotten off with involuntary manslaughter. Self-defense, in the middle of a street fight and not premeditated, etc.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:25 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:25 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Smitty27 at January 10, 2017 05:25 PM (g9d8D)
"There are four kinds of Homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy." - Ambrose Bierce
Posted by: mikeski at January 10, 2017 05:25 PM (UzBQ4)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:25 PM (ODxAs)
You can seize the Democratic Party (a wholly owned subsidiary of the Tides Foundation)?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2017 05:26 PM (s5o+q)
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IMO, any one who is killed by an agent of the state or by someone especially licensed by the state to kill (abortionist, euthanasia provider) should NEVER have their parts used for any reason. Not even if they "consent"to it.
The slippery slope is real --- as anyone who saw those Planned Parenthood videos can attest.
Cremate or embalm and bury.
Better yet, with a vicious pig like Roof, throw 'em in a tank of piranha.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 10, 2017 05:26 PM (Nox3c)
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Yep - something like the Island or Never Leave Me is the future...unless we seriously change the current direction of our society.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:27 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:27 PM (ODxAs)
I've said that for 30+ years.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:20 PM (mZLmb)
I'm not sure why this isn't already a legal principle. That is, if you falsely accuse someone of a crime, press charges, testify in court, etc., or use the legal system to frame an innocent person, the penalty incurred is the same as the one you tried to inflict on your victim. Why is this not fair?
Loss of office, disbarment and 1 day in jail is not enough for how whatsisface Nifong tried to railroad the Duke lacrosse players into a conviction.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:28 PM (bZbkb)
Depends a lot on where you sent him. Russia wants him for crimes against the state. I think hard time in a Russian jail might put a crimp on his activities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (39g3+)
If Putin really wanted him, he would have drank a polonium smoothie by now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:28 PM (92kX2)
Winning!
Posted by: pookysgirl at January 10, 2017 05:29 PM (ar2KI)
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A slightly more realistic option - have the FEC charge the Fake News Media with contributing in kind to the Clinton campaign, and use the wikileaks documents to prove the normally high bar to show they actually did coordinate.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:29 PM (X7E8f)
As Tom Clancy observed, martyrs all have one thing in common.
They're dead.
Martyrs are wildly overrated, and pretty much useless in motivating people (with one big exception, of course).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2017 05:29 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:28 PM (bZbkb)
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Agreed. There has to be a real, terrible cost to attempting to destroy someone's life. I'd rather someone try to shoot me than be falsely convicted of rape or murder so the penalty should be AT LEAST as bad as attempted murder.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 10, 2017 05:22 PM
Don't forget about the Kama Sutra.
Explore the intersectionality between the two with a visit to In-N-Out.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (39g3+)
Winning!
Why? Why do you tee them up like this. Right now, there are scores of the Horde frantically concocting rude replies.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: pep
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I know no one here does. He just disgusts me that much. Those poor people. The kindness and class they showed, and he murders them. Sickening.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (+aCe4)
people should also be punished with whatever the penalty is for the
crime they are making up. The burden of proof would have to be high.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (xeeHA)
Such as Marilyn Mosby
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (BP2E4)
Probably a lot harder to pull off in the United States.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (39g3+)
I think some States in the West still use hanging though.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:28 PM (92kX2)
Or used a Ricin Pellet Gun to kill him discreetly.
IIRC, the Soviets did that to at least one defector living in Britain, and Her Majesty's Government was scandalized and hopefully got better at protecting the defectors after that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (ujg0T)
I don't know you could find a doctor willing to harvest organs to execute the death penalty in the US.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2017 05:19 PM (ODxAs)
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No problem. Try Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (Nox3c)
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Because the goal of the government in the last decade or so has been to remove all elements of responsibility?
Hell, I wonder what would happen if Trump submitted a bill to congress removing ALL special protections for any government employee not in the DOD.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 10, 2017 05:21 PM (6Ll1u)
And before that, they hung 'em. Back in ithe 30s, a southern California serial killer who preyed on young boys was "hung by the neck until dead."
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Stalin / Hitler? Sometimes you have to make the tough calls.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (mpXpK)
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It is at least an option several places. Or was as of recently.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (xeeHA)
The MFM, CPD brass and Rahm were twisting themselves in knots over this. Being that the victim is disabled gave them on out on it so they ignore what was actually said in the video and go with a crime against a disabled person
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (493sH)
Oh, and there's a purring kitty on my lap.
Winning!
Why? Why do you tee them up like this. Right now, there are scores of the Horde frantically concocting rude replies.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (LAe3v)
*PEOTUS Trump wanders by*
*Double takes*
"Not falling for THAT one!"
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (GX63o)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (hjpzi)
Yeah, I get it. Don't blame you. But pediatricians put up with a lot of sh*t about vaccines from all kinds of headcases. Sorry you got tarred with that.
But all you have to do is see one case of a kid with measels inclusion body encephalitis or pneumonitis and you just want to go out and kill someone.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 10, 2017 05:30 PM (+aCe4)
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2017 05:32 PM (X35Yt)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (ujg0T)
That was the thing with an umbrella concealed pellet gun, wasn't it?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:33 PM (92kX2)
I always wonder if I may end up being one of the global warming "sheep" on this debate.
I do know the medical community is incredibly arrogant. I remember my kids got a flu "inhaler" vaccine and they came down with the flu. I asked our doctor about it, and she just nonchalantly said "oh yeah, that happens, it's a live vaccine when it's an inhaler"
Gee, thanks, we just paid you money to give our family the flu. Somehow this got approved by the FDA and we would be complete crazy people to not want to partake in it.
Posted by: Maritime at January 10, 2017 05:33 PM (rLp05)
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:34 PM (hjpzi)
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:34 PM (hjpzi)
Every time he passes a mirror.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:34 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (3jGss)
Posted by: Thor Gunderson from Norway at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:31 PM (ujg0T)
That was the thing with an umbrella concealed pellet gun, wasn't it?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:33 PM (92kX2)
That was the one.
Combined with their putting a contract "hit" out on Pope John Paul II, the Brezhnev era Soviets were just discreetly evil.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (3jGss)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Willy J. at January 10, 2017 05:36 PM (W6Ch1)
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:36 PM (LAe3v)
I mean, what if he had gone into that church and had a black voodoo doll with him and an icepick, and stood up in front and said die you n#### mo#### f#### and plunged the pick through the doll, does that constitute a federal hate crime?
And if so, what sentence is mandated?
'Cause the news on the radio this afternoon is saying hate crime conviction, death penalty.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 10, 2017 05:36 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 10, 2017 05:36 PM (0Rr2q)
Unfortunately there are a lot of intelligent, generally well-meaning, and genuinely kind individuals who believe that the death penalty is all about taking hurtful revenge on a vicious and nasty monster who himself has hurt someone clearly good in our society.
Not so.
The death penalty is about a few simple things.
In no particular order:
1) It is about society declaring a powerful value to itself. It says that there are some crimes so awful that should someone commit one (of those truly awful crimes), then society will put an end to the life of the offending criminal. - Not as a mater of anger. But as a matter of value. We value the basic well-being and life of one another as citizens that we feel compelled to end the life of anyone who has PROVEN himself to be so malicious. It's a simple declaration of ultimate values.
You need not know the victims. You need not know the perpetrator.
Whoever they happen to be under any conceivable circumstance: the sentence is the same.
2) Also the death penalty is an indispensable tool of Law Enforcement. Nowhere is this better exemplified than in Vincent Bugliosi's _Helter Skelter_ which carefully chronicals the investigations, prosecutions, and convictions of various members of the Manson Family.
Basically, it gives prosecutors leverage to cut deals with heinous criminals who have little hope ever walking free again. If those monsters choose to cooperate and turn State's evidence, then the monster will only be given 35 or so years in prison. Otherwise, the prosecutor seeks the death penalty. As Bugliosi points out: most living creatures (even monsters) have a powerful drive toward self-preservation. When faced with the death, 99.9% of the worst kinds of assholes do the best to save their own rotten assholes. - That's how they got Charles Manson who was never present at any murder scene for which he was convicted.
Moreover, some serial killers have been spared the death penalty in exchange for telling the government where they buried their victims. - So the believed families might obtain closure. In some cases: no death penalty = no closure for the victim's families.
3) It is a fantastic liberal myth that the death penalty serves no deterrent.
There are countless documented cases of monstrous assholes admitting that they stopped short of committing the ultimate crime of murder because they knew it would mean their own ultimate condemnation unto death.
So they mitigated their vile crimes to avoid the ultimate risk to themselves.
4) In every State that imposes the death penalty, you will find a generally stronger system of criminal punishment. So the deterrence is not just at the highest level for capital offenders. The deterrence is stiffened for criminals all the way down the line. - The State consistently demonstrates that it is utterly serious when it comes to punishing convicted criminals at every level. These States tend to have citizenrys that produce less crime.
All that said, even the worst of the worst (like Dylann Roof) have Christ's redemption before them constantly. So did Stalin and Manson and Simpson and countless others.
Unfortunately, such individuals consistently demonstrated that there is any real indication that they were ready to reach out for the Divine Salvation freely and constantly offered to them.
Posted by: Stoic Trumpublican at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (dDOWg)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (3jGss)
What time is Obama's 'State of My Ego' address?
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:34 PM (hjpzi)
He gave his last one last year.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (mpXpK)
the Brezhnev era Soviets were just discreetly evil.
You make them sound anomalous. They weren't.
Although the others weren't discreet, in fact they reveled in their brutality, so never mind.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (LAe3v)
If they just took it personally, I'd be the same. But when they refuse to vaccinate their children because of some bogus stupid study Oprah decided to push? That's a different story.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (39g3+)
As I often do, I won't watch but may skim a transcript.
It'll actually be an interesting historical marker.
Hope and Change is dead. Long live Hope and Change!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (lKyWE)
IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY IT MEANS FOR EVERYONE, RIGHT ED ASNER AND MIKE FARRELL?
Seriously, I expect to see the bleeding hearts with lighted candles singing songs outside the death chamber.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (4ErVI)
You make them sound anomalous. They weren't.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:36 PM (LAe3v)
Certainly not intended!
And yet the Peacenik Left here thought we could deal with them, because they were relatively discreet in a way the Stalinists were not.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (ujg0T)
You can get hung in Idaho!?
Isn't there still one state where you can request a firing squad?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (lKyWE)
Utah
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (4ErVI)
That said , I've yet to have a flu shot. Hypocrite.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (n0xeO)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (/tuJf)
That's terrible.
Its actually an internal decapitation at the C1/C2 vertebrae, pretty instantaneous....by design
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (E1zw7)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:35 PM (ujg0T)
Call me mean, but I just thought of Dennis Miller's bit on that from his "Off White Album."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (hjpzi)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (nuyGw)
Utah, I think. That's how they executed Gary Gilmore.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (qJhUV)
Right around the age of 32 or 33.... my immune system seemed to take a dump... I started to get colds WAY more often, and stayed sick longer.
To this day, if there's a cold out there... I get it.. if something is going around? It hits...
When I was 32, I was in Desert Strom, where they gave us experimental vaccines...
Can I PROOVE anything? no.... but it sure made me a bit more skeptical about Government 'Medicine'.
Posted by: Don Q. at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (qf6WZ)
Thought Utah still had the option of firing squad.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (qpKia)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (3jGss)
That's what I always said!
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at January 10, 2017 05:40 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:37 PM (39g3+)
Reason to detest celebrity culture #572....
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 10, 2017 05:40 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (Tyii7)
The death penalty is the ONLY documented cure for recidivism.
THAT science is definitely settled.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (X35Yt)
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (LAe3v)
Utah, I think. That's how they executed Gary Gilmore.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (qJhUV)
Doesn't Utah allow you to specify the manner of your execution? I seem to dimly remember a serial killer requesting "Death by Torture."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (92kX2)
That's terrible.
Its actually an internal decapitation at the C1/C2 vertebrae, pretty instantaneous....by design
60 ft drop. 50 ft rope.
Pop.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (qpKia)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:42 PM (SIY7D)
The following article has Inside Baseball about how Megyn was a pawn in the plans of Lachlan and James to push out Ailes in order to take over Fox and to build a more integrated global platform. And then came Trump.
http://tinyurl.com/j2pou7s
Ignoramus! an excellent schadenboner of a piece -- from Newsweek, no less! about the Mystery of Megan.
If it's true = explains SO much.
Posted by: voiceover at January 10, 2017 05:42 PM (9QWo+)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 10, 2017 04:56 PM (SRKgf)
Hook his electric chair up to a wind turbine, and make book on when the wind rises enough to fry his ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (bG+ug)
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Well said.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (Nox3c)
60 ft drop. 50 ft rope.
Pop.
As I recall, in the case of Saddam, it almost became an external decapitation because they let him fall too far. That would have caused me no problem at all.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (LAe3v)
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That seems harsh.
There were 17 people in the field.
Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (3Liv/)
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I seem to recall that some soldiers got trace exposures to Saddam's WMDs as well.
One guy I worked with claimed that they got positive results with the chemical weapons sensors several times and though it was claimed a false positive, he had calibrated them and didn't believe it.
Even if that is incorrect, they still destroyed a bunch of weapons after the initial invasions.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (X7E8f)
To this day, if there's a cold out there... I get it.. if something is going around? It hits...
When I was 32, I was in Desert Strom, where they gave us experimental vaccines...
Can I PROOVE anything? no.... but it sure made me a bit more skeptical about Government 'Medicine'.
Posted by: Don Q.
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This kind of stuff reminds me of when Rick Perry tried to make Gardasil mandatory for every Texas kid.
And then his chief of staff got a plum job at Merck shortly thereafter (the company that made Gardasil)
The people questioning vaccinations have become so marginalized in society, that now these pharmacuetical companies are giddy with how many things they can make mandatory and know that parents and lawmakers will be afraid to say something.
Posted by: Maritime at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (rLp05)
Posted by: Stoic Trumpublican at January 10, 2017 05:44 PM (dDOWg)
Posted by: tu3031 at January 10, 2017 05:44 PM (qJhUV)
IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY IT MEANS FOR EVERYONE, RIGHT ED ASNER AND MIKE FARRELL?
Seriously, I expect to see the bleeding hearts with lighted candles singing songs outside the death chamber.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (4ErVI)
Yeah, good point, where's Sister whatserface Prejean who shows up at every execution that has big MSM coverage so she can explain to us how evil the death penalty is?
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:45 PM (bZbkb)
"60 ft drop. 50 ft rope." would pull the head right off the shoulders, I'm thinking.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 10, 2017 05:45 PM (nuyGw)
Posted by: Thor Gunderson from Norway at January 10, 2017 05:45 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:39 PM (qpKia)
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Hangin's too good for 'em.
Posted by: Always wanted to say that. at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (Tyii7)
Depends on the Rope.
...and the head.
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (hjpzi)
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So wait, why does this particular inmate want me to recite all of my presidential speeches in front of him again?
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (X7E8f)
You will consistently find that in black churches. They strongly oppose the death penalty.
And I'm pretty sure family members of his victims came out in a very short time, saying they forgave Roof. Forgiveness is a BFD for them, as it should be for all Christians.
You can't judge all black churches against Jeremiah Wright and his ilk.
My heart is going out to the families of the people who were killed.... I still can't believe that POS did this. Some of the people were in their 70s and 80s.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (nUdSA)
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:45 PM (bZbkb)
The thing that both fascinates and sickens me. Both the president and his various sycophants probably went all in on the death penalty, not just because he was a racist nutjob, but because I think they believe it would bother us.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:47 PM (92kX2)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:43 PM (X7E8f)
That's just it... there were experimental vaccines... there was crap in the air... and at one point I took a dip in the Persian Gulf (most polluted water I've ever seen), which led to even more shots...
Who knows how all that interacted... which is my point.... sometimes we DON'T know...
Posted by: Don Q. at January 10, 2017 05:47 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: GeoSTI at January 10, 2017 05:47 PM (Lve6e)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 10, 2017 05:47 PM (jxbfJ)
Cremate or embalm and bury.
Better yet, with a vicious pig like Roof, throw 'em in a tank of piranha.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 10, 2017 05:26 PM (Nox3c)
Yes, L'Oreal has a new skin care line and they said it was tested on many different types of "incubated skin", makes you wonder where they got that skin to incubate. But, at least, by gosh and by golly, no bunnies or hamsters were harmed in the testing of the products. I had read that PP get $350 dollars for "useful amounts" of skin tissue from aborted babies, now we know why.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (kXoT0)
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So wait, why does this particular inmate want me to recite all of my presidential speeches in front of him again?
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2017 05:46 PM (X7E8f)
Thread winner.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (92kX2)
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He'll be a national hero to them for taking down the Confederate flag.
Posted by: Methos at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (3Liv/)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (kumBu)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (lKyWE)
The "no WMDs in Iraq!" line might be the greatest fake news of the modern era.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at January 10, 2017 05:38 PM (E1zw7)
That's the theory, anyway. Only in the case of the serial rapist/murderer, his spine remained intact. So instead of him jerking around for five minutes or so, they had to go to plan B, which was for the executioner to hang on his feet and legs until death (the murderer's, not his).
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 10, 2017 05:49 PM (bZbkb)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (X7E8f)
I still think the "Lied us into war" meme is the fouler calumny.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 10, 2017 05:49 PM (92kX2)
NICE!!!!
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at January 10, 2017 05:50 PM (E1zw7)
Posted by: m at January 10, 2017 05:50 PM (3jGss)
Well they released him after serving only eight years and he went on to kill a woman and was sentenced to death in 1997. He died of natural causes in 2001.
Eight freaking years!!! He raped her and cut off her arms!!! That would have resulted in the death penalty less than a century ago. Deservingly so.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 10, 2017 05:50 PM (n0xeO)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 10, 2017 05:50 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (lKyWE)
A 15 foot drop is more than sufficient, if the knot is placed appropriately, for even a lightly built person.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 10, 2017 05:50 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 10, 2017 05:51 PM (4ErVI)
60 ft drop. 50 ft rope.
Pop.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2017 05:41 PM (qpKia)
Anyone read Albert Pierrepoint's memoirs? The Official UK Executioner for some years.
He became a Leftist mushyhead, like a lot of Brits sadly, but his accounts of hanging Nazi war criminals are great reading.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:51 PM (ujg0T)
I remember when Utah shot Gary Gilmore. He wanted to get shot rather than lethal injection.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2017 05:51 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 10, 2017 05:51 PM (CPk08)
Thanks. I wish more MSM stories were this true and insightful.
Note that the article points out how there was a quick investigation of Ailes over his sexual harassment by an outside law firm where that firm never interviewed Ailes himself. The results got leaked to the press. I thought this highly suspect at the time, and a tell that it was a putsch to get rid of Ailes. Megyn piled on, despite Ailes having made her a star.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 10, 2017 05:51 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 10, 2017 05:52 PM (9N5vm)
However, instead of dropping them to break the neck (with instant death), they pull the victims up by a crane raising them via a rope around their neck.
My understanding is that it takes something like 30 minutes to strangle to death that way.
These are the people Obama just gave $10B to and enough uranium to make 10 nukes.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:52 PM (X7E8f)
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I'd guess it's also more economically beneficial than keeping someone incarcerated for 50 years.
Posted by: Weasel at January 10, 2017 05:53 PM (Sfs6o)
Bugliosi wrote a book calling for the trial, conviction and execution of George W. Bush for the Iraq war.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:54 PM (IqV8l)
kill a woman and was sentenced to death in 1997. He died of natural
causes in 2001.
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If that is the case I am thinking of, Massachusetts let him out on parole on the grounds that he leave the state...and he then murdered someone in FL.
Where I the FL AG I would have filed charges against the MA parole board for criminal conspiracy.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:54 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 10, 2017 05:55 PM (BP2E4)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2017 05:54 PM (IqV8l)
He went nutty toward the end, but I have to give him credit for prosecution against Manson, and his debunking of JFK assassination conspiracies (along with Gerald Posner for the latter).
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 10, 2017 05:56 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2017 05:48 PM (X7E8f)
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I don't know, it still has to match "Dallas schoolchildren cheered JFK's Assassination" in the next bracket from 1963.
Posted by: Axeman at January 10, 2017 05:59 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 10, 2017 05:23 PM (39g3+)
165 156
I think Malaysia has a length of rope with his name on it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 10, 2017 06:05 PM (bG+ug)
I wonder if there will be some sort of appeal along those lines.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 10, 2017 06:17 PM (Xuv2G)
Yet how many Democrats will roll over to try and excuse the Chicago four?
And knowing that, how much does that information ENCOURAGE idiots like the Chicago four to do what they did? Knowing that at least in some quarters, they will be considered heroes, to be pardoned as such by a future democrat president?
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at January 10, 2017 06:42 PM (UgF8H)
Rather than a quick Chinese style waiting period oy say 30 days. Root, the coward will probably still be alive 5-10 years from now.
Hopefully South Carolina will move more like Texas and not like California.
Posted by: standfast24 at January 10, 2017 06:59 PM (PNFIr)
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