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"LISTEN TO US:" ABCNews' "Objective" Head Political "Analyst" Trolls Christians, Republicans on Christmas Eve

I deliberately didn't post this story on Christmas Eve or Christmas day because I didn't want to drop a hate-bomb on everyone.

But it should be noted.


There are a couple of problems with it. First, it's attempting to inject hatred and ill-will into Christmas Eve.

Second, it's not just trolling, it's old, unorginal trolling -- leftists trot this same meme out every Christmas.

Third, it's wrong.

As many Biblically-literate people noted, Joseph and Mary were not "migrants;" they were travelers reporting to the local government center for mandatory government-ordered census-taking.

But whatever, he's super-Christian or whatever.

He then feigned shock that people were taking his obviously contrary-to-the-spirit-of-the-season trolling as trolling:


But he wasn't done quite yet. He then decided to give the game away by shrieking that "Trump fans" wouldn't listen to him:


Note his rather obvious hatred for "Trump fans" -- I don't remember him ever calling out "Obama fans."

And that's what this is all about, isn't it? Trump fans will not listen to Matthew J. Dowd. You know, the objective, fact-based Head Political Analyst for ABCNews who gets everything wrong and in fact apologized a short time ago for being rotten to people who contradicted his claim that Trump could never win. (More on that later.)

I missed this on the first go: He actually has a political agitation organization called, get this, "Listen To Us."

And no, I'm not kidding. It's emblazoned on his Twitter masthead.

He then made some demands. You know, like a hostage-taker:


Then he seems to have began babbling incoherently that we should all trust the polls as "facts" -- the same polls that were so badly wrong just 50 or so days ago:


But Dowd has been attacking anyone suggesting that the polls might be wrong for a long while now:


Host Joe Scarborough first talked about the disservice the media did to the American people during the 2016 election by dismissing anyone who said that Donald Trump had a chance of winning the presidency over Hillary Clinton.

Scarborough then brought up ABC’s Matthew Dowd and said he would write multiple nasty messages if someone said they believed Trump would win. Co-host Mika Brzezinski then brought up Stephanopoulos.

Astoundingly -- I think DrewM. pointed this out -- this was the hack who just a short time ago (on November 11th) promised he would do better.

As I move on from the aftermath of the presidential election, these words from the Latin Mass I attended as a youth bounced around in my head -- "mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa."

The rough translation is "My fault, My fault, My greatest fault".

I want to take this opportunity to say I was wrong about who would win the election. But my biggest regret, and what I would like to apologize for is the arrogant, close-minded, judgmental, and sometimes mean-spirited way I related to many who believed Trump would win.

They were right, and I was wrong.

I had seen many things coming in this election that turned out to be on target, but for the big finale, I was way, way off. This is primarily because I stopped listening, focused too much on data, and didn't allow counter evidence to be absorbed in a meaningful way.

I became too bunkered in New York City (away from my home in Central Texas) in the last few months, and didn't pay attention to the local stories where another portion of America lives and breathes. Too many of my discussions centered around polling, the horserace, and odds, and not enough on the conversations on the ground.

...

[I]n the fall, I became convinced Trump would lose, and after the three debates, even put odds on Clinton winning at 95 percent.

Mea Culpa. I was dead wrong.

Instead of casting my prediction as an educated guess or an informed opinion, I treated it as an inarguable fact. In the past, I have said making numerical predictions is faux math, and still I did it anyway. I should have followed St. John of the Cross and held a place of the unknowing: where truth doesn't come as much through the head, as from the heart and the love we show others.


And thus as I said my biggest blunder was in how I treated people of differing opinions. Mea Maxima Culpa.

Dowd's promise seems to have lasted as long as one of his hero Obama's.

Now this wretched c**t is posting all this shit about loving thy neighbor and love overcoming division and hatred:


And this is the head political analyst of ABCNews.

A shopowner who keeps a known, admitted, unreformable thief at the cash register cannot blame the thief for thieving. He can only blame himself.

Their fault -- their maximum fault.

Update: A commenter says he was Bush-Cheney's political consultant in the 2004 election. Which I guess would make him a #NeverTrumper, rather than an outright leftist.

Just the soft sort of Polite Company Republican the media loves to hire.

Ah well. The #NeverTrump crew is as bitterly unhinged as their fellow travelers on the left.

Posted by: Ace at 05:59 PM




Comments

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1 Forstest

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2016 05:59 PM (5sOEp)

2 Did Maureen Dowd finally go full tranny?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:01 PM (8ZskC)

3 I hate the Left...each and every one of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2016 06:02 PM (SjImc)

4

Moral Relativists love nothing more than casting Moral Derision.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:03 PM (4uaSQ)

5 Matthew Dowd pwned the Christians with this one weird trick!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:04 PM (8ZskC)

6 Oh read the Tweets after the original to really get your blood up.

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2016 06:04 PM (5sOEp)

7 Well that's ok, Matt. Nothing could make me take you seriously.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2016 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

8 I am amazed. It is Christmas Eve, and the lack of civility, compassion, caring by people who claim Christianity is astounding. God Bless

Irony, like silvery, only rust colored.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (LTHVh)

9 Pro Tip : Don't bring Love to a Gun Fight.

...or, Chicago.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (4uaSQ)

10 At least you know who is not on your side.

Posted by: Skip at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (5sOEp)

11 I hope we can drive scores of these feckless crapweasels over the brink in the coming months.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (Mt8T4)

12 Love wins. Boom

Posted by: Jean at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (2RVmA)

13 Man, those dumb Christians are gonna be *shocked* when they find out Jesus was Jewish. Just wait until they find out about the Old Testament - we'll need to break out the smelling salts for sure!

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:05 PM (kumBu)

14 you won't be listened to by me

??? Is this someone? I wouldn't know this turd if I passed him (?) on the street.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:06 PM (LTHVh)

15 Mr. Dowd is obviously not a Biblical scholar and he derides those who know more about it than he does.

Well, he's probably good at something. Not at the Bible or growing hair, though.

Posted by: huerfano at December 27, 2016 06:06 PM (jkkMG)

16 His whole thing is pathetic. There *were* no Arabs there, it's not like it's a huge surprise to anyone who knows anything that Joseph, Mary and Jesus were all Jewish, whose excluding poor people (except in his own deluded brain), and there probably weren't any black people there either (although one of the three kings is black by tradition, they wouldn't get there for quite a while).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:06 PM (sEDyY)

17 Journalists, the arts and entertainment community, academia, pundits and intellectuals have all run their colors up. We no longer owe them any deference, respct or audience.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 27, 2016 06:06 PM (J8/9G)

18 War will never bring peace, division will never unify us, kindness isn't weakness, arrogance isn't strength, hope isn't a dream, love wins.

Blah blah blah blah. I get it. Nice-sounding words sound nice.

Posted by: t-bird at December 27, 2016 06:06 PM (9Q5BJ)

19 Until Trump fans and his enablers in the media hold him accountable for any standard of integrity, you won't be listened to by me.


Who the fuck are you, and why would we care whether or not you listen to us?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (SRKgf)

20 Maxima content.

Wish I had better Twitter skilz l.

Posted by: Golfman at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (48QDY)

21 I love when people who aren't Christians try to teach me about my religion. Nothing brightens a holiday like a condescending lecture.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (FQKBL)

22 I love the "God bless" in the tweet. Because Matthew Dowd is all about spirituality and shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (8ZskC)

23 Sooner or later, Love is gonna Win.

Posted by: The Grass Roots at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (4uaSQ)

24 Being big and bad enough to mop the floor with anyone else and willing to do it if they started something, but not starting anything which might have united the weaklings brought several decades of peace to America. Suck on that Matthew Dowd.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (dkExz)

25 He's just doing his job.

Not to mention panic-stricken because the old tried-and-true playbook doesn't seem to be working any more.

His bitter tears nicely season my carrotless chili.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (nrnR5)

26 We all need to "woke" to the fact that we are deplorable and redeemable to about 30% of fellow Americans. This will not end well. They not only disagree but really do hate us.

Posted by: USNtakim at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (hMqvx)

27 People should not drunk-tweet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (LTHVh)

28 (1) One thing that frosts my mug is when people outside the Christian faith poke Christians in the eye (figuratively, and even if that truly is not their intent) and when people push back or say "knock that off" or "what rubbish" suddenly zomg they accuse Christians of being the bad guy.

(2) I also am sick to death of this Mary + Joseph = migrants or refugees thing... but - and being very generous to Dowd - one can argue they were. More specifically when they fled Judea and headed down to Egypt. Yes they were not refugees at the time of Christ's birth. One can argue the typical manger scene is mainly to help identify the *who* not so much the *when*. A crass analogy is saying when Queen Elizabeth was born. She was not queen yet. The manger scene foreshadows Mary + Joseph + Jesus as refugees. I lean conservative and evangelical and on a couple occasions have described the Holy Family that way in sermons. It's not wrong. Just has to be done more carefully and with less political agenda.

Posted by: Rick67 at December 27, 2016 06:08 PM (bqer+)

29 LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

I can't HEAAAAARRR YOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 06:08 PM (8ZskC)

30 So many of our opponents seem to have serious substance abuse problems. Sad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:08 PM (LTHVh)

31 The irony of complaining that The Other doesn't listen to him and then proudly proclaiming that he won't listen to them until the cease to be The Other is quite interesting.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:09 PM (sEDyY)

32 >> So many of our opponents seem to have serious substance abuse problems. Sad.



That's why the first Sip of Cock is always free.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:09 PM (4uaSQ)

33 Is it just me, or is the Dowd clan now vying with Jukes family for generating a whole series of mental defectives?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:10 PM (SRKgf)

34 I want to take this opportunity to say I was wrong about who would win the election. But my biggest regret, and what I would like to apologize for is the arrogant, close-minded, judgmental, and sometimes mean-spirited way I related to many who believed Trump would win.



Fuck your feelings Matthew.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 27, 2016 06:10 PM (O7kBk)

35 Well, the MSM are in full bratty mode, stamping their little feet, and screaming incoherently, insisting that Trump be responsive to them, as they are the Keepers of Truth.

The insular bubbles of Liberalism that they live in have finally popped, or at least are in danger of deflation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2016 06:10 PM (ZO497)

36 Sooner or later, Love is gonna Win.
Posted by: The Grass Roots at December 27, 2016 06:07 PM (4uaSQ)

Sure, no doubt...once we shoot all the non-believers?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2016 06:10 PM (SjImc)

37 >>>30 So many of our opponents seem to have serious substance abuse problems. Sad.

indeed. It's providential for me that I don't drink very often and almost never except after work. Alcohol + online depersonalization = asshole.

Posted by: ace at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (8rNrN)

38 That's why the first Sip of Cock is always free.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:09 PM (4uaSQ)
............

Which gets them hooked, then you sell them bags.

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (HgMAr)

39 you won't be listened to by me

In graduate school I spent a year teaching college writing to incoming undergraduates. Over and over and over again I tried to teach them *not* to use the passive construction (unless there was a good reason to do so). For the love of Strunk and White why not say simply "I will not listen to you"?

Posted by: Rick67 at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (bqer+)

40 I didn't know this about Mr. Dowd:

During the 2002 election, Dowd was a senior adviser to the Republican National Committee.

During the 2004 Presidential election, Dowd was chief strategist for George W. Bush's re-election campaign.

It figures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (8ZskC)

41 Hard to be optimistic when stupid, ignorant freaks like Dowd (and his zillion duplicates in the public square) aren't marginal, but in fact dominant.


An enormous weight dragging down the society and the country.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (QDnY+)

42 I want to take this opportunity to say I was wrong about who would win the election. But my biggest regret, and what I would like to apologize for is the arrogant, close-minded, judgmental, and sometimes mean-spirited way I related to many who believed Trump would win.



Nothing says "I'm sorry" quite like seppuku.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (SRKgf)

43 Love Wins? Well, yeah, the Cavs came back in the Finals down 3-1. Love won, Smith won, James won, Irving won...this is old new.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (kumBu)

44 Dowd is known as the old bald ****head in my house.

Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill formerly from Canada at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (dIB/P)

45 Is it just me, or is the Dowd clan now vying with Jukes family for generating a whole series of mental defectives?

That's why Snopes.com always makes me giggle.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (LTHVh)

46 I am tired of people who have some nominal connection with Christianity, particularly Catholicism ( who pretty much indicate"I left all that mumbo jumbo behind me although Jesus was a leftist" lecturing people on how Christians should behave when they aren't behaving any better than the people they critique. It was really in bad taste to do that on Christmas Eve, and how could he not know he was trolling?. I am also tired of leftisst who go out of their way to troll and then say, "But...but, but..it was only a joke.: Sure it was. Sure it was.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (tOcW/)

47 And if Matthew had ever read Matthew, he'd know Jesus both knew how and was not shy about telling others to GFTS:

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

And it's important to shake. I tried to wipe the shit off with a Dowd column once, but all that did was get the shit dirty.

Posted by: JSchuler at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (SmZQt)

48 In graduate school I spent a year teaching college writing to incoming undergraduates


Now THAT must have been a soul-destroying undertaking.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (SRKgf)

49 "11 I hope we can drive scores of these feckless crapweasels over the brink in the coming months.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles"

Yes ! Even hundreds ! Make no little plans !


"17 Journalists, the arts and entertainment community, academia, pundits and intellectuals have all run their colors up. We no longer owe them any deference, respct or audience.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner"

This too.
And definitely not another effin' nickel of the hard-earned.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (nrnR5)

50 Love Wins.

(Hold Down, B, A, B, Quarter Circle Forward, C)

Fatality.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (kumBu)

51 Until Trump fans and his enablers in the media hold him accountable

Hate to break it to you, dude/Dowd, but YOU were one of the ones who enabled Trump to win.

Thank you, we owe you.

Posted by: t-bird at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (9Q5BJ)

52 And this is the head political analyst of ABCNews.

Oh. No wonder I've never heard of him.
Does this mean he's in charge of rubbing the moisturizer on Martha Radditz's leathery face?

Posted by: tu3031 at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (qJhUV)

53 Nothing says "I'm sorry" quite like seppuku.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:12 PM (SRKgf)

It certainly adds a touch of sincerity to the apology.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (sEDyY)

54 I smell something in the Kitchen...I wonder what the wife is burning up?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (SjImc)

55 Mr. Dowd hangs around with a giant rabbit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 27, 2016 06:13 PM (IqV8l)

56 If you haven't seen it RISEN is a good movie, it about a Prefect ordered to find the Body of Jesus because the Emperor is coming and the Governor doesn't want riots disorder etc during his visit.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dKiJG)

57 I am like who the fuck is Matthew Dowd and I google him and it says:

Matthew John Dowd is an American political consultant who was the chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney '04 presidential campaign...

Well now.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (tewYv)

58 You can just keep on pulling the trigger on that rifle with the muzzle resting on your foot FNM. Continue for as long as you like.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dkExz)

59 I missed this on the first go: He actually has a political agitation organization called, get this, "Listen To Us."

And no, I'm not kidding. It's emblazoned on his Twitter masthead.

Posted by: ace at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (8rNrN)

60 "...you won't be listened to by me."

This guy get paid to write things? SMH

Posted by: BuckIV at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (CLfqv)

61 Odd. Democrat to Republican to Independent.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (g6yUI)

62 Dowd appears not to be woke.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (/tuJf)

63 Why won't you dumb gap-toothed cousin-humpin tobacco-spittin mfkrs just clap for Matt's brilliant post??

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (zu88C)

64 This guy get paid to write things? SMH


For some values of write.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (LTHVh)

65 As of today Matthew Dowd goes on my list of people who won't listen to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (8ZskC)

66 >>>
Matthew John Dowd is an American political consultant who was the chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney '04 presidential campaign...

I did not know that. I was shocked at first when you wrote that, but a moment later I thought: "Well that figures."

Posted by: ace at December 27, 2016 06:15 PM (8rNrN)

67 I won't even remember who this is tomorrow.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (LTHVh)

68 >>"...you won't be listened to by me."


DO YOU HEAR THE WORDS COMIN' OUT OF MY TWEETS?!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (4uaSQ)

69 If you haven't seen it RISEN is a good movie, it about a Prefect ordered to find the Body of Jesus because the Emperor is coming and the Governor doesn't want riots disorder etc during his visit.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dKiJG)

Yes, do watch it. It is well made, it has really high production values and good acting not always a hallmark of a Christian film.

But I am going to say, without giving away spoilers (not really a spoiler to say that Christ rose from the dead I guess) is that they give it away too easily and too soon - I think the mystery should have continued longer.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (tewYv)

70 40 I didn't know this about Mr. Dowd:

During the 2002 election, Dowd was a senior adviser to the Republican National Committee.

During the 2004 Presidential election, Dowd was chief strategist for George W. Bush's re-election campaign.

It figures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (8ZskC)

Well then. I should expect more from him than that bullshit.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (R5EqA)

71 "you won't be listened to by me."

Good. Because I have absolutely no intention of talking to you.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (0xzXo)

72 Oh, jeez, now we've done it. Matthew Dowd won't be listening to us.

Whoever Matthew Dowd is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (SRKgf)

73 For a brief moment after the election, some journalists -- even The Times -- admitted that they had fucked up and said that they'd change. That's over.

Trump is already hondling MSM by limiting direct access and using Twitter to set the message(s) of the day. Folks like KellyAnne and Newt do one-off spot messaging.

Love it. And want to see more Tricks introduced after Jan 20.

You can't have an honest interview with these people. You could see this on the Sunday shows a couple of weeks ago where the likes of Chuck Todd were visibly losing their shit on air.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (SIY7D)

74 Dubya had many disastrous personnel decisions, and Dowd is a notable one (though that was probably one level down).


Who TF ever objected to, or made any point whatsoever, of "Jews, Arabs, and Africans" in a nativity scene - or for that matter in any situation?? When TF did I miss this?


Dumb racists like Dowd, who dominate the "liberal" and "progressive" scene and disfigure most "minority" communities as well, are obsessed with race and ethnicity. Seems unlikely this cancer will ever be contained in our lifetimes.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (QDnY+)

75 and here's a picture of Muhammad with no jews, poor people, or immigr---

*rock to the head*

Posted by: Jeb please clap at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (8ReTf)

76 67 I won't even remember who this is tomorrow.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (LTHVh)


Who?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:17 PM (SRKgf)

77 Here you go people. A nativity scene without any Jews, Arabs, Africans, refugees, poor people

I was going to snark about the wise men from the East being Africans, because Africa is east of Bethlehem. Then I got to pondering whether there were actually Arabs there.

Auda abu Tayi: The Arabs? The Howitat, Ajili, Rala, Beni Saha; these I know, I have even heard of the Harif, but the Arabs? What tribe is that? -- Lawrence of Arabia

Since there is no clear definition of what an Arab is the commonly accepted version is people who speak Arabic. The languages of Jesus' place and time would have been Aramaic, Hebrew, and Koine (popular Greek). So, no Arabs.

Now, Dowd's stupid tweet doesn't really merit analysis, but I find it interesting that it's even more ignorant than it is stupid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 27, 2016 06:17 PM (mgbwf)

78 he's puffed up with conceit.

Sad!

Posted by: concrete girl at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (TD/W3)

79 War will never bring peace, division will never unify us, kindness isn't weakness, arrogance isn't strength, hope isn't a dream, love wins.

------

I don't know. We've been at peace with Japan for a long time thanks to defeating them in a war.

Posted by: josephistan at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (7qAYi)

80 Well then. I should expect more from him than that bullshit.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (R5EqA)

Unclear - you expect better bullshit. or better than this bullshit?

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (tewYv)

81 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (V2Yro)

82 So right, Matthew! It should come as no surprise to the followers of the racist, sexist, homophobic asshole Trump that most right thinking people wish that they were all dead! Love Trumps Hate!!!

Posted by: Annoying Gay Asian Star Trek Guy at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (qJhUV)

83 U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will deliver a major address on Peace In The Middle East tomorrow morning.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is a key part of what Secretary of State Kerry-Heinz will address, a spokesmodel said.

"In his speech, Secretary of State Kerry will lay out a comprehensive vision for how he believes the conflict can be resolved in the Middle East, State Department Deputy Spokesman* Mark Toner announced.

The Secretary of State will make the historic address from The State Department on Wednesday morning. It will be live-streamed on the State Department's state-of-the-art website.

Activity on AoSHQ is expected to grind to a complete halt, as The Horde tunes in. No word on whether Ace will live-blog this incredible and important address.

* More evidence of the imperialist white supremacist capitalist cisheteropatriarchy infesting the Department of State since the abrupt desharture of Madame Secretary.

Posted by: Moron News Service, Sewing Circle, and Timing Association at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (DMUuz)

84 Adults love it when other adults "tell" them something.

Posted by: Pepe at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (GQcg8)

85 Since there is no clear definition of what an Arab is the commonly accepted version is people who speak Arabic.



Ishmaelites.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (LTHVh)

86 If a person is an Atheist should you buy them a present on Christmas? I wouldn't.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (dKiJG)

87 @26-

30% eh.
No biggie.
I'm guessin' just the commenters here have enough noisy nuggets to have that covered.

Posted by: teej at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (gJ3Vg)

88 Who the hell is Matthew Dowd? Eff it, I don't care or I'd look him up.
He can kiss my butt!

Posted by: Carol at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (sj3Ax)

89 I like the way Dowd thinks that Christians are like all hypocritical and shit because they DON'T KNOW JESUS IS JEWISH!!!!

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (tewYv)

90 "I was going to snark about the wise men from the East being Africans, because Africa is east of Bethlehem.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 27, 2016 06:17 PM (mgbwf) "

Obviously Aussies - the original three gifts were Gold, Frankincense and Vegemite.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (kumBu)

91 Ace posted the same tweet twice. I think the second instance was incorrect. Says nothing about polls, as ace's intro implied.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (GdPXh)

92 51 Until Trump fans and his enablers in the media hold him accountable

I've got bad news for you: it's YOU in the media we're going to be holding accountable.

So don't worry your vacant little head (sorry for the phrasing) about Trump. Worry about your own ass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (SRKgf)

93 Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 27, 2016 06:17 PM (mgbwf)

I think the smug arrogance associated with the ignorance is what makes it stupid.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (sEDyY)

94 dammit

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (8ReTf)

95 56 If you haven't seen it RISEN is a good movie, it about a Prefect ordered to find the Body of Jesus because the Emperor is coming and the Governor doesn't want riots disorder etc during his visit.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dKiJG)

I don't wanno drunken riots in my town. And you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken.

Posted by: Mayor Carmine DePasto at December 27, 2016 06:19 PM (7qAYi)

96 >>he's puffed up with conceit.


..and semen.

but, mostly semen.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:20 PM (4uaSQ)

97 "Burst" messaging - hard-hitting Twitter-esque statements, etc. - are a good tool for Trump ampersand Co. and they've used them well.


But a more thorough, detailed, and relentless debunking of MSM nonsense, of the NPR Alternate Reality in which much of "educated" America languishes, will be required if there's to be any chance of sustainable (ha) progress.


Team work. Trump needs Cheneys and Rumsfelds and Gingriches too - people who can/will lock on to important myths and distortions and rip them apart, along with the "journalists" mouthing them.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:20 PM (QDnY+)

98 Use the Twitter tools against these people. Report them for harassing behavior (against Christians, Trump supporters, etc.). If enough do it then it may make a difference.

Oh, who am I kidding? They are the "right" people, and they have the "right" views. Nothing will happen.

Still, throw some wooden shoes in to the works if you can.

Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at December 27, 2016 06:20 PM (LDV7V)

99 ]U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will deliver a major address on Peace In The Middle East tomorrow morning.


Kerry: "Here's my speech about peace in the Middle East. It ain't happenin'. Oh jeez, look at the time, must run. Byeeee!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (SRKgf)

100 eJust as a matter of trivia, it's probable that the Magi were Zoroastrian astronomers from Persia. (NOT arabs)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (V2Yro)

101 Something tells me this guy will be getting Tucked soon.

Posted by: josephistan at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (7qAYi)

102 I would be offended by this except I have no idea who Mathew Dowd is so meh, whatever. He has a Bazooka Bubblegum grasp of The Bible but he's hardly alone in that.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (pY+s4)

103 Hate to say it, but that Matthew Dowd fellow seems to be a walking yeast infection.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (75WaT)

104 Seriously. It's a mental illness. Progressivism. It requires that reality be denied.

Oddly ironic, journalists are attracted to it.

Posted by: Simplemind at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (ZuGkg)

105 The Secretary of State will make the historic address from The State Department on Wednesday morning. It will be live-streamed on the State Department's state-of-the-art website.


As soon as trading opens buy up all the Palestinian grievance futures you can.

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (8ZskC)

106 Where has DrewM been?

Posted by: JT in KC at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (FoSz+)

107 arrogance isn't strength

Heh. He tweeted that? It's like he's asking to be brutalized for, ta da! Arrogance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (+lVUW)

108 72 Oh, jeez, now we've done it. Matthew Dowd won't be listening to us.

Whoever Matthew Dowd is.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (SRKgf)

Apparently he's a whinier (if that's possible) David Frum.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (R5EqA)

109 My Latin is a bit fuzzy, but who knew that mea culpa translated to "it's not my fault."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (kTF2Z)

110 79 War will never bring peace, division will never unify us, kindness isn't weakness, arrogance isn't strength, hope isn't a dream, love wins.
------
I don't know. We've been at peace with Japan for a long time thanks to defeating them in a war.
Posted by: josephistan at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (7qAYi)


Exactly. I hate it when liberals say "violence doesn't solve anything." On the contrary, it solves everything if pursued to its logical conclusion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (SRKgf)

111 What are the odds of Kerry eating a BOD before or after his address?

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (75WaT)

112 War will never bring peace, division will never unify us, kindness isn't weakness, arrogance isn't strength, hope isn't a dream, love wins.
- Matthew Dowd

=====


You forgot "Hillary is up by 20 according to Monmouth"

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (zu88C)

113 So this lame duck Muslim Psy-Op of a Fraud we have in the White House is going to set the Middle East on Fire by declaring a two state solution. He will lay out the borders of a Palestinian State.

What a fucking coward POS! They are going all scorched earth.

Posted by: Pepe at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (GQcg8)

114 Matty sounds like a nutter. What better vocation for him than journalism?

Posted by: Fritz at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (nrkHK)

115 The Secretary of State will make the historic address from The State Department on Wednesday morning. It will be live-streamed on the State Department's state-of-the-art website.


SCOAMF will recognize a Palestinian state. Mark it.

Posted by: josephistan at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (7qAYi)

116 There's no asshole in analyst.

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (qUNWi)

117 from Persia. (NOT arabs)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:21 PM (V2Yro)

My understanding is that Iranians like to make it *very* clear that they aren't stinking tent-living tribal thugs and (as far as they'll admit) never have been.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (sEDyY)

118 107 arrogance isn't strength
Heh. He tweeted that? It's like he's asking to be brutalized for, ta da! Arrogance.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (+lVUW)


And galloping stupidity plus moral preening is not profundity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (SRKgf)

119 >>I would be offended by this except I have no idea who Mathew Dowd is so meh, whatever. He has a Bazooka Bubblegum grasp of The Bible but he's hardly alone in that.

The problem isn't that you don't care. The problem is this assclown is the head of political reporting for ABC News and many people actually do take him seriously.

It's too bad that the vast majority of people who get their news from the msm don't tweet so they don't get a chance to see what these people are really all about.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2016 06:23 PM (/tuJf)

120 Where has DrewM been?
===

Another casualty of the Trump Wars.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (zu88C)

121 Is everyone named Dowd a waterhead?

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (qUNWi)

122 As soon as trading opens buy up all the Palestinian grievance futures you can.
Posted by: Mortimer Duke at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM (8ZskC)

Rocks?

Posted by: Pepe at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (GQcg8)

123 Dear Matthew, lost in your New York City wonderland. Here is an easy message.

America Trumped You.


Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (7N6ox)

124 I posted this in JJ's thread this morning, it bears repeating:

My wife went to this corporate event where BBC presenter Katty Kay was a speaker - she got to talk to her later and Katty said that Trump made her life a living Hell with his tweets - she would get up in the morning and if he had tweeted something in the middle of the night it ruined her day because she had to scramble.

The man is NOT random.

Most people like Dowd seem to think that Twitter exists so that whenever they feel like saying something stupid, they have to rush and tell the whole freaking world.

A lot of people seem to think that this is why Trump tweets, too - that he just can't hold his dumbass in. But here is the truth - he uses it as a tool to fuck with people.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (tewYv)

125 I think I'll send him a big bag of dicks as a late Christmas present.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 27, 2016 06:25 PM (0mRoj)

126 Yes, do watch it. It is well made, it has really high production values and good acting not always a hallmark of a Christian film.

But I am going to say, without giving away spoilers (not really a spoiler to say that Christ rose from the dead I guess) is that they give it away too easily and too soon - I think the mystery should have continued longer.
Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (tewYv)

It took me a while to see that it wa Malfoy from the Harry Potter movies was working under the Prefect, still it was very well done.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:25 PM (dKiJG)

127 My Latin is a bit fuzzy, but who knew that mea culpa carpa translated to "it's not my fault fish."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 27, 2016 06:22 PM

FIFY.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 27, 2016 06:25 PM (DMUuz)

128 A lot of people seem to think that this is why Trump tweets, too - that he just can't hold his dumbass in. But here is the truth - he uses it as a tool to fuck with people.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (tewYv)


I think he uses it kinda like using a laser pointer on a wall to fuck with a cat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (SRKgf)

129 Pretty sure Kerry is going to announce a two state solution with 1967 borders. I wouldn't cross the street to piss on the guy if he was on fire. It would be a waste of pee.

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (9iR5/)

130 Here you go people. A nativity scene without any Jews, Arabs, Africans, refugees, poor people



Just an empty creche and Brian Williams in a flak jacket.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (8ZskC)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (DMUuz)

132 I will consider Matthew Dowd for as long as it takes me to wipe and flush.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (KMCxZ)

133
Matthew J. Dowd. You know, the objective, fact-based Head Political Analyst for ABCNews who gets everything wrong ...


Maureen got a strap-on for Christmas?

Posted by: Jay Carney, WH Press Secretary at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (FlRtG)

134 Fecklessness is not weakness, you racists!

Posted by: Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (9Q5BJ)

135 Mary & Joseph weren't poor. There's absolutely no indication of that.

In fact, when Jesus was killed, his executioners cast lots on who could take his cloak. You don't do that for a brown burlap bathrobe.

Posted by: RKae (still very sad about Greg Lake) at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (K9rH2)

136 80 Well then. I should expect more from him than that bullshit.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 27, 2016 06:16 PM (R5EqA)

Unclear - you expect better bullshit. or better than this bullshit?
Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (tewYv)

Better bullshit would be nice, but it's this bullshit he should be better than.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (R5EqA)

137 I think he uses it kinda like using a laser pointer on a wall to fuck with a cat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:26 PM (SRKgf)

Zackly.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (tewYv)

138 "...love wins."

Yes, my boyfriend and I completely agree with that!

Posted by: Matty Dowds Wife at December 27, 2016 06:28 PM (yDJlI)

139 Where has DrewM been?
Posted by: JT in KC

On Twitter whining about Trump 24/7.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2016 06:28 PM (FQ0rq)

140 Yay!. Let's recognize a Palestinian State without any approval or input from Israel/ arc.


As Ralph Peters said (and Yes, I know that he endorsed Hillary. It doesn't make this statement any less true:. Obama's Mideast policy

Praise Muslims. Ignore Christians. Blame Jews.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:28 PM (tOcW/)

141 Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (tewYv)

Thanks for reposting that since i missed the original. That is a fascinating data point. Sounds like when he frustrates us it's because we weren't the intended market/target.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (sEDyY)

142 138 "...love wins."
Yes, my boyfriend and I completely agree with that!
Posted by: Matty Dowds Wife at December 27, 2016 06:28 PM (yDJlI)


Yeah, the "love wins" crap made my antennae twitch too. Is Dowd a shirtlifter, as I suspect?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (SRKgf)

143 Head Political Analyst for ABCNews

Love anal-ists...

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (/wWB4)

144 It is not a coincidence thrash when you do a search of Obama recognizes Palestine that dozens of articles pop up from the last 2 months about how he should recognize the Palestinian State.

Then when Trump says no the Mulsims go crazy in USA and Europe.

Posted by: Pepe at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (GQcg8)

145 119 The problem is this assclown is the head of political reporting for ABC News and many people actually do take him seriously.


Ah, he's of the House of Stephanopoulos. Figures.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (pY+s4)

146 "Posted by: RKae (still very sad about Greg Lake) at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (K9rH2) "

Joseph was a skilled tradesman, so the family clearly wasn't living in penury.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (kumBu)

147 To think that Kerry was almost President.

And if he had been, John Edwards would have been a heartbeat away.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (SIY7D)

148 Trump fans and his enablers in the media


It is that second part that reveals just how delusional Mr. Dowd is.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (ujg0T)

149 I think he uses it kinda like using a laser pointer on a wall to fuck with a cat.




And into the wall they rush.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (O7kBk)

150 Yeah, the "love wins" crap made my antennae twitch too. Is Dowd a shirtlifter, as I suspect?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (SRKgf)

He's a drunk girl at Mardi Gras?

Posted by: josephistan at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (7qAYi)

151 Mary & Joseph weren't poor. There's absolutely no indication of that.

Yes; there is actually. When Jesus is presented in the temple they purchase a turtle dove. That would have been one of the less expensive things to buy to sacrifice. A more costly sacrificial animal would have been a spotless lamb. They were not refugees, of course, as has already been noted.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (tOcW/)

152 has DrewM been?
===

Another casualty of the Trump Wars.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:24 PM (zu88C)

He's a Never Trump, anything Trump does it still better than what Hillary would do.

I really want to unfollow him on Twitter but unlike others I do like to see other opinions.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (dKiJG)

153 If the media had to run for election I'm pretty sure Matthew Dowd would be in another line of work. Maybe even one where he wears a name tag.

Posted by: Guam tipper at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (/DvFd)

154 Did I detect a flounce from Matthew on those tweets?

Posted by: Octiparan at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (b9JGJ)

155 When They come for you, Matthew Dowd, I will help Them.


suck on that, twerp. And when you scream like a bitch, no one will care

Posted by: Billy Occam at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (ihtYN)

156 I mean, its not like matty isnt trying, you know. Its just that there isnt enough fuel in the rocket to get it in into the upper atmosphere. Or enough rocket, really...

Posted by: Matty Dowds Wife at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (yDJlI)

157 Can't we put these assholes in the same city at the same time and just nuke it, be done with their bullshit and hate?

Posted by: I Need a Drink at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (bKxiT)

158 Looking through his twitter feed and such just confirmed my suspicions as to what type of douchebag this guy is.

Posted by: Bosk at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (n2K+4)

159
Hilariously sad.

The best Matthew Dowd can do when called on his hypocritical hateriness is-

barf out a bunch of bumpersticker slogans.

And this clown is the Head Political analyst of ABCNews.

Pitiful.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 27, 2016 06:31 PM (vZ9Fw)

160 Joseph was a skilled tradesman, so the family clearly wasn't living in penury.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (kumBu)


I always found it funny how the Left wants to portray these early Christians as down and out. They were working class if not middle class by the standards of the day, and some like Matt the Tax Accountant and Luke the Doctor, were even professional.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 27, 2016 06:32 PM (ujg0T)

161 And in what crazy world does Dowd think most Trump supporters think Mary nand Joseph weren't Jewish?!!/ I was forgetting, At some point he thought that we were all members of StornFront.r

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:32 PM (tOcW/)

162 Posted by: RKae (still very sad about Greg Lake) at December 27, 2016 06:27 PM (K9rH2)

Fenelon Spoke is correct. The dove as offering was *specifically* designated as the offering of a poor man. Doesn't mean things didn't change later though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (sEDyY)

163 I do love it when people who know almost nothing about the Bible feel the need to lecture me about it.

Posted by: Caliban at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (3GFMN)

164 "Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (tOcW/) "

Well, I mean, they *were* Jewish - even if they had beaucoup bucks, you still gotta hunt for the bargain.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (kumBu)

165 If Obama was trying to set the ME on fire, what would he do differently?

He's already had a hand in creating the Syrian slaughter, ISIS, the European refugee crisis, Iran getting the bomb in x years, ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (SIY7D)

166 If you haven't seen it RISEN is a good movie, it about a Prefect ordered to find the Body of Jesus because the Emperor is coming and the Governor doesn't want riots disorder etc during his visit

++++

first half was good. the rest was typical of the genre

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (8ReTf)

167 I put nothing past these cretins, but going full retard and recognizing a "Palestinian state" this week would be particularly stupid of them, as it would be a policy easily and instantly reversed (and would be so reversed, prospectively, within minutes via the Trump tweet).


Would be a particularly humiliating and extremely high-profile case of "legacy" being vaporized instantly, after leading to some disruption.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (QDnY+)

168 And this is the head political analyst of ABCNews.

Oh. No wonder I've never heard of him.
Does this mean he's in charge of rubbing the moisturizer on Martha Radditz's leathery face?
Posted by: tu3031 at December 27, 2016 06:13

Ditto here. I stopped watching the big networks during the 2000 election. One morning FNC was on and I thought this if different than what I've been hearing.

Never looked back. No idea who these talking heads are until they try to throw a debate, like Candy Crowley or Martha Radditz. And my life is more pleasant by not seeing their ugly mugs and hearing their slanted drivel as little as possible.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2016 06:33 PM (o/90i)

169 161 And in what crazy world does Dowd think most Trump supporters think Mary nand Joseph weren't Jewish?!!/ I was forgetting, At some point he thought that we were all members of StornFront.r
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:32 PM (tOcW/)


They lie about us and they call it "truth".

We tell the truth about them and they call it "mean".

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 27, 2016 06:34 PM (ujg0T)

170 I think I'll send him a big bag of dicks as a late Christmas present.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 27, 2016 06:25 PM (0mRoj)

Here, try these:

http://images4-e.ravelrycache.com/uploads/CaylaChristine/295863204/bod1_small2.png

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 27, 2016 06:34 PM (GdPXh)

171 Well, I mean, they *were* Jewish - even if they had beaucoup bucks, you still gotta hunt for the bargain.


Oh....heyyyooooooo......

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:34 PM (qUNWi)

172 If you haven't seen it RISEN is a good movie, it about a Prefect ordered to find the Body of Jesus because the Emperor is coming and the Governor doesn't want riots disorder etc during his visit.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dKiJG)

I concur; I thought the first half of the movie (essentially a police procedural) was a very interesting way to look at the Resurrection of Christ through Roman eyes.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (5Yee7)

173 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (V2Yro)
...........

aww handd on ddekk! Baah-baah-tul stayshuns!

Posted by: Aooga Aooga at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (HgMAr)

174 It is Christmas Eve, and the lack of civility, compassion, caring by people who claim Christianity is astounding.
---

Their only religion is liberalism. They are not Christians, or even wanna be Christians. Like liberal Jews, liberalism is their reason for existence, and the only thing in their tiny, tiny hearts.

Sad really.

As for Dowd's former job with Republicans... well, as everyone knows, people can easily fake their beliefs.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (9mGRY)

175 When Jesus is presented in the temple they purchase a turtle dove. That would have been one of the less expensive things to buy to sacrifice. A more costly sacrificial animal would have been a spotless lamb


How much for a liberal? Or a welfare recipient?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (SRKgf)

176 Mr. Dowd, no one is listening or reading your BS or your network's BS anymore.

Please grow up, go away and get a real job.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (5VlCp)

177 So, I'm supposed to give a F what this guy thinks?

HAHAHAHhhaahaha....

His concern is:

[ ] noted
[ x ] not noted

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 27, 2016 06:35 PM (044Fx)

178 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (V2Yro)


When are they commissioning the USS John M. Roll?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (SRKgf)

179 The lady doth protest too much.

Posted by: Learn Some History at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (SJ184)

180 Fenelon Spoke is correct. The dove as offering was *specifically* designated as the offering of a poor man. Doesn't mean things didn't change later though.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

---

Doesn't point out Christ as being poor; just that he sided with and identified with the poor, as opposed to kicking them to the curb in the sort of Margaret Dumont attitude that prevailed among the "holy" of the day.

Posted by: RKae (still very sad about Greg Lake) at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (K9rH2)

181 Just on Christmas Eve, when I got dinner ready for Pedro, he came running into the kitchen all excited: "darling, darling is up, its...." and then he looked down on himself, his face full of disappointment: "nevermind!"

Its really breaking my heart.

Posted by: Matty Dowds Wife at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (yDJlI)

182 Yeah, Dowd, I'll get right on making Trump accountable for doing the one thing I actually admire about him, which is his willingness to challenge the fucking dishonest media on their own turf and with all the gusto and malice he can summon. Hyperbolic? Over the top? Sure. But after decades of Republicans saying "thank you sir may we have another vote that will make the mainstream media like us?" I'll take hyperbolic and over-the-top. Bigly.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (7sHtr)

183 Keep your religion out of your politics. We're not making Reese's here.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (5oWc9)

184 And this is the head political analyst of ABCNews.


Big misunderstanding. He probably gives head to the political analyst at ABC News.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:37 PM (SRKgf)

185 Wow, Drew is *still* whining in a N-Trump fashion? Still?


Stupid enough at the outset, but now?


Maybe he can get a gig with ABC News? Sounds like he and Dowd would get along.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:37 PM (QDnY+)

186 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that
mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in
it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM

It has none of those awful, scary weapons systems aboard, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 27, 2016 06:37 PM (DMUuz)

187

Strange angry dude

Posted by: ThunderB at December 27, 2016 06:38 PM (nl2r8)

188 Fen I hope your presence means things are all good! Prayers were up!

Next,

Thanks for reposting that since i missed the original. That is a fascinating data point. Sounds like when he frustrates us it's because we weren't the intended market/target.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:29 PM (sEDyY)

Someone somewhere made this point, I forget who but its a good one: you know those ads for collectible plates? That you think are tacky and horribly made ads?

They aren't made for you. They are made for the people who buy collectible plates. And those ads work for them.

Not exactly the same, here, but kind of. Trump doesn't tweet for us. Its for an entirely different audience, and that is why we cringe at it.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:38 PM (tewYv)

189 "Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 27, 2016 06:32 PM (ujg0T) "

It got accentuated with the rise of 'Liberation Theology,' the idea that Christianity should be especially attractive to those in squalor (i.e. the Marxist working class) because of its origins. Like many things, there's a speck of truth to it - Jesus did speak of the poor, the meek and the powerless - but it still cherry picks quite a bit.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (kumBu)

190 Hard to be optimistic when stupid, ignorant freaks like Dowd (and his zillion duplicates in the public square) aren't marginal, but in fact dominant.


An enormous weight dragging down the society and the country.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (QDnY+)

The Beast's loss convinces me that they aren't as dominant as they think they are.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (+lVUW)

191 I can't believe Dowd can type and use his hands to stuff his cakehole with all the bags of dicks he eats.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (zCxRC)

192 When are they commissioning the USS John M. Roll?

Sssshhhhh!!!

Nobody was supposed to notice that hit.

Posted by: Barky's Purge Brigade at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (044Fx)

193 Hey, I like those collectible plate ads.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (8ZskC)

194 2bd century Pagan write census described Christianity negatively as the religion of slaves and women

So yes, there were quite a few powerlessness and poor people attracted to Christianity because of the message of freedom in Christianity, In Chris there is neiither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free..." etc. But wealthier people did support the early Christian church as did Lydia, the seller of purple.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (tOcW/)

195 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that
mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in
it?
Posted by: Tom Servo

I thought holes and blowing things was the job of the USS Harvey Milk.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (MQZOg)

196 182 Yeah, Dowd, I'll get right on making Trump accountable for doing the one thing I actually admire about him, which is his willingness to challenge the fucking dishonest media on their own turf and with all the gusto and malice he can summon. Hyperbolic? Over the top? Sure. But after decades of Republicans saying "thank you sir may we have another vote that will make the mainstream media like us?" I'll take hyperbolic and over-the-top. Bigly.
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (7sHtr)


I admit to not being sold on Trump. But I am now, because he understands the Rule Of Anyway. This puts him leagues ahead of all too many other Republicans.

Remember, whenever someone says we can't stand for what is right because that will alienate Group X, just remember that Group X nearly always votes Left Anyway.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (ujg0T)

197 Posted by: RKae (still very sad about Greg Lake) at December 27, 2016 06:36 PM (K9rH2)

It wasn't actually an option, and would have been Joseph asking for the correct sacrifice for his finances (which was set by Mosaic law). I have to admit the idea of Jesus' foster father trying to short-change G-d never occurred to me, and I choose to consider it unlikely.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:40 PM (sEDyY)

198 Sorry. Not about love. About listening. He doesn't do it. He cannot let go of his unshakable belief in his correctness

Posted by: ThunderB at December 27, 2016 06:40 PM (nl2r8)

199 *whips out confirmed MOT card*

I can make that joke! Chag Sameach, bitches! And yes, I got my Hannukah candles on sale.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at December 27, 2016 06:40 PM (kumBu)

200 They're not as dominant and they're fucking scared.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (zCxRC)

201 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (V2Yro)
..............

Did Barry break a bottle of champagne on the bow and put it out of it's misery?

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (HgMAr)

202 Hey, I like those collectible plate ads.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:39 PM (8ZskC)

And there you go.

Posted by: blaster at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (tewYv)

203 I thought holes and blowing things was the job of the USS Harvey Milk.


Now that Hildabeast will not be president maybe we can avoid the commissioning of a U.S.S. Rachel Corrie.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (8ZskC)

204 Track him down.

Posted by: the extremely deplorable and very racist, sexist, bigotted and homophobic james at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (jxw6R)

205 The "Giffords" is a Little Crappy Ship (LCS), right?


So fortunately it might spend most time in port (repair), or (as some have already been designated), for training only?


Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:41 PM (QDnY+)

206 I also am sick to death of this Mary + Joseph = migrants or refugees thing... but - and being very generous to Dowd - one can argue they were. More specifically when they fled Judea and headed down to Egypt.
_______________________

Mary and Joseph sought refuge in Egypt until the danger from King Herod had passed, then they went home.

How many of our modern "refugees" are going to return to their home countries once the danger there has passed? The Haitian "refugees" who came to the U.S. after the earthquake are still living here, years later. The Bosnian and Serbian "refugees" are still living here. Anybody think the Somali or Syrian "refugees" are ever going back home?

We all know that the vast majority of these "refugees" are actually permanent transplants, so it's dishonest to compare them to Mary and Joseph. Furthermore, the government of Egypt did not provide welfare to Mary and Joseph when they were living there, unlike modern "refugees" who come to the U.S. and live off taxpayer-funded hand-outs for years and years.

If Dowd wants to argue in favor of more muslim immigration from third world countries, then do it. But do it honestly, not with facile analogies to historical figures who had absolutely nothing in common with today's "refugees."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 27, 2016 06:42 PM (riF5p)

207 When Jesus is presented in the temple they purchase a turtle dove. That would have been one of the less expensive things to buy to sacrifice.

+++

baby Jesus kept resurrecting all the other ones. but he was all Fk turtle doves

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 06:42 PM (8ReTf)

208 Good post, TrivialPursuer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:43 PM (tOcW/)

209 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today. Does that mean that it'll be easy for any idiot to wander up and blow a hole in it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM (V2Yro)
............

Did Captain Corky take command?

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 06:43 PM (HgMAr)

210 Was DaveinTx another casualty of the primary flame war? What about Y-Not?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 27, 2016 06:43 PM (kTF2Z)

211 I think as their loss of control becomes more and more clear, they will become more and more destructive in their desperation

Posted by: ThunderB at December 27, 2016 06:44 PM (nl2r8)

212 Nerdygirl, I'd say their completely dominant.


Doesn't mean the electorate (well, enough, anyway) can't buck the fake tide they create (Reagan and Bush II did it, too).


But in the public square, in media, in pop culture - "dominant" is putting it mildly. Ace spends a fair amount of time here documenting how complete is their dominance, and how insane is their mindset.


The very terms of discussion for all major public issues are, for the most part, absurd and distorted. Of course. Because the dominance of that mindset in media and culture is near-total.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 27, 2016 06:44 PM (QDnY+)

213 Over and over and over again I tried to teach them *not* to use the passive construction (unless there was a good reason to do so). For the love of Strunk and White why not say simply "I will not listen to you"?
Posted by: Rick67 at December 27, 2016 06:11 PM (bqer+)

People use the passive voice when they're trying to weasel out of responsibility for statements. Years ago, when I had to take minutes for departmental meetings, I found my drafts were constantly changed from the active to the passive voice, and frequently the actors were removed from the minutes entirely. I'd write, "Mr. Smith suggested that we purchase new computers for the department" only to find that Mr. Smith changed it to "It was suggested that new computers be purchased...."

After a while I found myself writing in the passive voice almost automatically and I hated it - but it appeared the goal was to make the official record as bland as possible. Everyone wanted their asses covered.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 06:44 PM (P8951)

214 Hey, I like those collectible plate ads.


The problem with collectible plates on the wall is the food keeps sliding off them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:44 PM (SRKgf)

215 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:43 PM (tOcW/)

Thanks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 27, 2016 06:45 PM (riF5p)

216 I like those Slapchop ads.

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:46 PM (qUNWi)

217 People use the passive voice when they're trying to weasel out of responsibility for statements.


Academic apology: "If offense was taken, I'm sure it was regretted."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:47 PM (SRKgf)

218 Everyone wanted their asses covered.

I've always been an iconoclast.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at December 27, 2016 06:47 PM (DMUuz)

219 "Facts: has lowest favorability of any president ever."

Technically true, his favorability rating as the president is zero.

Mostly because he's not yet the president, though I wouldn't expect an ABCNews political analyst to understand that.

(HRCwnbtPOTUS)

Posted by: mikeski at December 27, 2016 06:47 PM (lO+tS)

220
Matthew Dowd should write an article on guns.
Just for laughs.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 27, 2016 06:47 PM (yfObW)

221 I really want to unfollow him on Twitter but unlike others I do like to see other opinions.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

===

You don't have to look very hard. Twitter is quite full of Nevertrump "opinion".

No thanks.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (zu88C)

222 When are they commissioning the USS John M. Roll?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


He was a Republican, and has frankly become an un-person. Down the memory hole.

Like he never existed. Mention his name and get blank stares.

I was at the 9/11 Memorial last week in NYC, and mentioned Rick Rescorla's name to my traveling companion, and she never heard of him.
I also never mentioned Ronnie Bucca.

Later, I sent her a link to a story written by James Fallows about Rescorla. She was pretty impressed.

We live in stupid times.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (S6Pax)

223 Asses were wanted to be covered.

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (qUNWi)

224 I like those Slapchop ads.
Posted by: eleven

My agent guaranteed me the spokesman part.

Posted by: Ike Turner at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (MQZOg)

225 Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 27, 2016 06:43 PM (kTF2Z)

Don't know about DaveInTX but yes Y-not was pretty vehemently anti-Trump. She's still on Twitter and interacts with the Horde there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (sEDyY)

226 A rat's ass will not be given. By me.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (wPiJc)

227 War will never bring peace

It is the *only* thing that has ever brought peace. From the dawn of humanity until relatively recently war was constant - read Before the Dawn or War Before Civilization

division will never unify us

So when he rants about Trump fans that isn't division?

kindness isn't weakness

Kindness like destroying bakers and photographers who just want to mind their own business, literally?

arrogance isn't strength

"I won" - not said by Mr Trump

hope isn't a dream

Hope all you want. It matters what you DO, not want you wish for.

love wins.

Tell that to the Byzantines in 1453...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM (aZq03)

228 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 27, 2016 06:47 PM (SRKgf)

I had a friend who said really unkind stuff and then sanctimoniously intoned, "I'm sorry if you were hurt by anything I said." Ugh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:49 PM (tOcW/)

229 Ace, you should've tweeted the same picture with the caption "What the nativity would have looked like if Bethlehem had abortion clinics..."

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2016 06:49 PM (7sHtr)

230 The very terms of discussion for all major public issues are, for the most part, absurd and distorted. Of course. Because the dominance of that mindset in media and culture is near-total.
Posted by: rhomboid

Yes. It is all mental finger painting.

Childish. Dumb. Pitched low.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at December 27, 2016 06:50 PM (S6Pax)

231 "The very terms of discussion for all major public issues are, for the most part, absurd and distorted. Of course. Because the dominance of that mindset in media and culture is near-total."

I think this can change, and is the next step after winning the Twitter Wars.

e.g., have a White House website that puts out key facts about matters of the day.

e.g, get the facts out on Hillary scandals. Best done through criminal investigations, not Congressional hearings. Target Huma / Weiner / Mills and RICO the Foundation. Part of this is to show how MSM refused to cover the story. I wouldn't make a martyr out of Hillary.

e.g., fund alternative studies of CAGW. With real science. This is a key one, because it's such accepted dogma by the Left




Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 06:50 PM (SIY7D)

232 Facts: has lowest favorability of any president ever
***
So...what was the favorability rating of Buchanan when he was president elect? Or hell, how about Washington?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2016 06:50 PM (aZq03)

233 This did not have any Gays or Lesbians in the cartoon which really bothers me and I will send a E-mail to Micheal Obama with my concerns. Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at December 27, 2016 06:51 PM (Fbj4h)

234 Dowd is just pissed because Trump was able to flip PA, MA and WI when Bush wasn't able to.

That and Trump won more EC votes than Bush.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 27, 2016 06:52 PM (1JnAL)

235 >>I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today.


I read on the internet that Marlee matlin gave the dedication.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:52 PM (4uaSQ)

236 A rat's ass will not be given. By me.
Posted by: Muldoon


You sir, are the most parsimonious person in the world!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at December 27, 2016 06:53 PM (S6Pax)

237 And that is why I hate Ms Shyning's habit of turning on ABC every day at evening "news" time.

She does not sense the message that David Muir and company are delivering. It is subtle, but it is there, every fucking evening.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 27, 2016 06:53 PM (U6f54)

238 Yes. It is all mental finger painting

+++

its typically never a serious conversation so you ought never treat it as one.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 06:53 PM (8ReTf)

239 Does DrewM retweet Egg McMuffin like he's someone important and worth listening to?

Posted by: buzzion at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (cAnNx)

240 "Before testing or reconfiguring, always mount a scratch monkey."

Posted by: Zen Wisdom of the Computer Masters at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (DMUuz)

241 Thx for doing this Ace

Posted by: Random Joe at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (riqBd)

242 Facts: has lowest favorability of any president ever.
===


"Ever" being defined by Little Matthew's oh so galactically important life-span, of course.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (zu88C)

243 216 I like those Slapchop ads.
Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:46 PM (qUNWi)


You're gonna love my nuts!

Posted by: Vince Offer at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (1JnAL)

244
You don't have to look very hard. Twitter is quite full of Nevertrump "opinion".

No thanks.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:48 PM

I like Ben Shapiro but it gets tiresome with Trump, he would have had Hillary in there. Nick Nolte he doesn't like Trump but he's NeverHillry

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 27, 2016 06:55 PM (dKiJG)

245 Hell of a second half by Temple but they come up short. Good game.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2016 06:55 PM (/tuJf)

246 Dowd's meltdown follows a certain trajectory I've seen in other Trump haters since the election (most notably at NR):

1. Shock and disbelief.
2. A brief - VERY brief - moment of humility, as the writer admits that "shit, did I get that one wrong."
3. That is followed, not by acceptance and further soul searching, but instead, as the days go back and it sinks in that OMG, Trump is going to be in the Oval Office on Jan. 20 and recounts, faithless electors, the NY State Attorney General and everyone else we thought could save will not - anger and hatred. If depression is anger turned inward, the reverse is also true.

That's why NR, after a few high-minded, "well, we were wrong and hope for the best from the PE" is now printing Williamson's drivel comparing the Trump sons to Saddam Hussein's demonic spawn. They can't do humility and they can't do depression because they can't be angry at their own precious selves for very long - so they've doubled and tripled down on the hatred and scorn.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 06:55 PM (P8951)

247 e.g., have a White House website that puts out key facts about matters of the day.

e.g, get the facts out on Hillary scandals. Best done through criminal investigations, not Congressional hearings. Target Huma / Weiner / Mills and RICO the Foundation. Part of this is to show how MSM refused to cover the story. I wouldn't make a martyr out of Hillary.

e.g., fund alternative studies of CAGW. With real science. This is a key one, because it's such accepted dogma by the Left


++++


none of these will work because rational argument versus you're a poopyhead Nazi

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 06:55 PM (8ReTf)

248 A nativity scene without any Jews, Arabs, Africans, refugees, poor people


*****

Actually, I think that cow is a refugee from a slaughterhouse and the donkey may be from Tijuana. And the sheep doesn't have two pennies to rub together.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 06:56 PM (wPiJc)

249 216 I like those Slapchop ads.
Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 06:46 PM (qUNWi)
You're gonna love my nuts!
Posted by: Vince Offer at December 27, 2016 06:54 PM (1JnAL)

Are you getting this, camera guy?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 27, 2016 06:56 PM (5VlCp)

250 love wins.
---

OMG.

That's hippie talk.

Then there's the Millennial version "coexist."

Did love win WWI?

How about WWII?

What exactly does "love win?"

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 27, 2016 06:57 PM (9mGRY)

251 Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 06:56 PM (wPiJc)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:57 PM (tOcW/)

252 235 >>I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today.

It's mission is to go around and grab Americans' guns.

Posted by: Pepe at December 27, 2016 06:57 PM (GQcg8)

253
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands

===

Very good summation.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 06:57 PM (zu88C)

254 An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Posted by: Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 06:58 PM (8ZskC)

255 This did not have any Gays or Lesbians in the cartoon which really bothers me and I will send a E-mail to Micheal Obama with my concerns. Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at December 27, 2016 06:51 PM (Fbj4h)
.............

Hold on there, Mary. How do you know that cow isn't gay? And certainly the sheep is available for our Musloid friends.

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 06:58 PM (HgMAr)

256 Horn Broken
Watch for Finger

Posted by: The Wisdom of Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (MQZOg)

257 You sir, are the most parsimonious person in the world!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative



******


That's a good thing, right?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (wPiJc)

258 What exactly does "love win?"

A free beheading, Infidel!

Posted by: Imam Yourmom at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (IcT7t)

259 Just remember, for Liberals the reason for the season is the liberal political agenda.

Posted by: Dr.Mr.Badman at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (YzGag)

260 He notes the mea culpa when he attended the Latin Mass as a child. If he ever attended Mass in the vernacular he'd know the confiteor is still present.

Deliberately provoking your neighbor to the sin of anger is itself a sin. Venial or Mortal depending on the several other factors.

I'm guessin' this fella attended a Jesuit run school sometime in the past. That would explain his lack of knowledge of the Catholic faith.

Posted by: havildar-major at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (jpW6t)

261 Keep Honking, I'm Reloading

Posted by: The Wisdom of Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (MQZOg)

262 Did love win WWI?
How about WWII?
What exactly does "love win?"
===

If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is "poontang".

/AnimalMother

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (zu88C)

263 Mary & Joseph weren't poor. There's absolutely no indication of that.

In fact, when Jesus was killed, his executioners cast lots on who could take his cloak. You don't do that for a brown burlap bathrobe
============================
Gold frankincense and myrrh. What's in your wallet.

Posted by: Simplemind at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (ZuGkg)

264 OT: Hillary's book Hard Choices is at Ollies Discount Outlet for $4.99. Retail is $34.99.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (9mGRY)

265 Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try

Posted by: Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (8ZskC)

266 how about love #winning? or are we sick of that already

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (8ReTf)

267 229 Ace, you should've tweeted the same picture with the caption "What the nativity would have looked like if Bethlehem had abortion clinics..."
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2016 06:49 PM (7sHtr)

Oh, that's good - especially since Dowd so loves to sprinkle allusions to Catholic practices and beliefs in his writings. ("See? I'm Catholic myself, because I know about mea culpa and St. John of the Cross. Can't call ME anti-Christian!")

Hey, Mr. Catholic, what does the Church teach about abortion?

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 07:00 PM (P8951)

268
Visualize World Peace

Posted by: LIttle Matty Dowd at December 27, 2016 07:01 PM (zu88C)

269 Driver Carries No Cash
He's Married

Posted by: The Wisdom of Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 07:01 PM (MQZOg)

270
You can't hug a child with nuclear arms!

Posted by: Matthew Dowd at December 27, 2016 07:01 PM (vZ9Fw)

271 I'm a bit torn by the LCS program. Obviously, things have gone terribly wrong and the program can't seem to buy a clue. Which makes me sad that LCS 15 is name for my hometown of Billings.

I'm proud my city has a US naval vessel named after her but its a LCS. However, regardless of the class, God bless her and her crew and may she always win in war and find safe harbor.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 27, 2016 07:02 PM (b9JGJ)

272 258
What exactly does "love win?"



A free beheading, Infidel!
---

Now at least that is true!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 27, 2016 07:02 PM (9mGRY)

273 What exactly does "love win?"
..........

Half your shit.

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 07:02 PM (HgMAr)

274 OT: Hillary's book Hard Choices is at Ollies Discount Outlet for $4.99. Retail is $34.99.

++++

how thick is it? i need a book safe

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 07:02 PM (8ReTf)

275 I'm guessin' this fella attended a Jesuit run school sometime in the past. That would explain his lack of knowledge of the Catholic faith.
Posted by: havildar-major at December 27, 2016 06:59 PM (jpW6t)

Sadly, you're right about that.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 07:03 PM (P8951)

276 It doesn't make one SJW or a leftist to think that Mary and Joseph were not particularly well off people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 07:03 PM (tOcW/)

277 Make Love, Not War

Posted by: LIttle Matty Dowd at December 27, 2016 07:03 PM (zu88C)

278 He actually seems to sidle right up to the edge of a personal insight, but then doubles down on what he purports to apologize for.

To paraphrase:

As I learned in Catholic school when I was young...

As I removed myself too far away from my roots in Texas...


But never mind that, I'm going to double down on youse people are deplorable.

He was one step away.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 07:03 PM (wPiJc)

279 235 >>I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today.


I read on the internet that Marlee matlin gave the dedication.
Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:52 PM (4uaSQ)

Wah da fuh is da supposah meen?

Posted by: Marlee Matlin at December 27, 2016 07:04 PM (7qAYi)

280 "none of these will work because rational argument versus you're a poopyhead Nazi"

Disagree. Trump had a modicum of success in getting MSM to cover his issues during the campaign. MSM mostly ignored the substance of what he would speak about for an hour at his rallies, but some got out.

When he's President, they can't ignore him. They have to cover him. So if an official Trumpster says "x" and here's where you can find out more, and it's publicly available, MSM will have to cover it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 07:04 PM (SIY7D)

281 Did Woody Allen die yet?


That would be a good third one.

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 07:05 PM (qUNWi)

282 Disagree. Trump had a modicum of success in getting MSM to cover his issues during the campaign.

+++

by being outrageous. QED man

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 07:05 PM (8ReTf)

283 Octiparan, 271 - What we need is to revert to the ancient custom where the city - Billings in this case - buys a silver service for the wardroom.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 27, 2016 07:06 PM (gIn0+)

284 Nood.


Dude.

Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2016 07:06 PM (qUNWi)

285 I find any Liberal claiming to be a Christian to be incredibly disingenuous, especially when they trot out the tired meme that Joseph and Mary were refugees. How dare some mouth-breather that has never read the Bible all the way through at least once tell me what's in it.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at December 27, 2016 07:07 PM (t78PZ)

286 Joseph and Mary were not well off people. Joseph was a simple carpenter. He was not a Sadducee or pharisee or scribe class.

The example of Jesus presentation at the temple, Matthew tells us that the offering was two doves. This was the gift of the very poor to the temple.

Posted by: havildar-major at December 27, 2016 07:07 PM (jpW6t)

287 When he's President, they can't ignore him. They have to cover him. So if an official Trumpster says "x" and here's where you can find out more, and it's publicly available, MSM will have to cover it.

+++

because as we all know they've covered everything Obama has done, good and bad, because they're obligated to.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 07:08 PM (8ReTf)

288 >>I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today.


I read on the internet that Marlee matlin gave the dedication.

Posted by: garrett at December 27, 2016 06:52 PM (4uaSQ)
............

Did she use the Mandela Memorial sign language interpreter?

Posted by: wth at December 27, 2016 07:08 PM (HgMAr)

289 This was the gift of the very poor to the temple

++++

ebionites.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 27, 2016 07:08 PM (8ReTf)

290 @283 Octiparan, 271 - What we need is to revert to the ancient custom where the city - Billings in this case - buys a silver service for the wardroom.

I didn't know about this tradition. I'll check with my brother still living there and see if this is in the works.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 27, 2016 07:09 PM (b9JGJ)

291 "by being outrageous. QED man"

Governing well is the best revenge. And nothing says you can't be outrageous doing it.

Imagine Trump standing up with some real scientists who blow up the premises of CAGW. As violating all the tenets of how you should do Science. It's easy if you try.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 27, 2016 07:09 PM (SIY7D)

292 I saw that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was commissioned today.


*****


Made its first sortie into open waters propelled and supported by the tugboat USS Mark Kelly

Posted by: Muldoon at December 27, 2016 07:09 PM (wPiJc)

293 U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will deliver a major address on Peace In The Middle East tomorrow morning.
The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is a key part of what Secretary of State Kerry-Heinz will address, a spokesmodel said.

"In his speech, Secretary of State Kerry will lay out a comprehensive vision for how he believes the conflict can be resolved in the Middle East, State Department Deputy Spokesman* Mark Toner announced.
Posted by: Moron News Service, Sewing Circle, and Timing Association at December 27, 2016 06:18 PM

Who gives a flying f*** what Kerry says on his way out? This is simply narcissism, he's now irrelevant.

Always has been a POS since he threw his?/or others? medals over the WH fence. Oh, and lied to get his medals. I repeat, POS.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2016 07:10 PM (o/90i)

294
Jesus I Coming.
(Look Busy!)

Posted by: Chi at December 27, 2016 07:10 PM (6pYLb)

295 ebionites.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich

Hardly.

Posted by: havildar-major at December 27, 2016 07:11 PM (jpW6t)

296 To day they still don't get it would imply they can get it, but they can't. They believe they are morally and intellectually superior because they believe what all of the really smart people in NYC and LA believe. He gets that he was wrong about the election, but he doesn't get that his entire worldview is thin gruel progressive claptrap. These guys and the academics are trying to replace the most successful construction of society ever created with the ravings of a madman from the mid-1800s.

Posted by: IanDeal at December 27, 2016 07:13 PM (teGBX)

297 Sure sure. How would you know

Posted by: Bigbys Preening Fingers at December 27, 2016 07:14 PM (8ReTf)

298
You sir, are the most parsimonious person in the world!!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
******
That's a good thing, right?
Posted by: Muldoon

If you like parsimmons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 27, 2016 07:14 PM (IqV8l)

299 Jesus wasn't working as a carpenter during the years he was preaching. Some of his wealthier followers gave him nice gifts and undoubtedly fed him and the apostles from time to time, but there's no indication that they had much money (Judas had the purse, so it looks like they pooled their funds.)

Applying the concept of a "middle class" to ancient Israel is stretching things, although I suppose a doctor and tax collector would fall into the category of "people who were not on the verge of starvation." Almost everybody was "blue collar" because almost everyone except the priestly class had to work with their hands to make a living.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 07:18 PM (P8951)

300 ace, thank you for bringing this to our attention, and thank you also for your consideration in waiting to post it until after Christmas.

One of the things I love about this site is that I know there will always be a full-throated defense of Christianity and Judaism, from not just ace but the cobloggers as well. And, of course, the commenters - regardless of anyone's personal religious preference.

This Dowd person was just trolling, pure and simple. Whether he's a Christian or not, posting something like that on Christmas Eve was exceedingly rude. He ought to have known better. I'm sure he DID know better, but posted it anyway. Well, I'm glad I'm not him.

Posted by: bluebell at December 27, 2016 07:21 PM (sBOL1)

301 Fenelon 151-

Don't read too much into that turtledove sacrifice. They Did sacrifice the spotless lamb (their son) ... just not that year... a little later on. Pretty powerful juxtaposition actually

Posted by: JM&J at December 27, 2016 07:22 PM (xFIeT)

302 Yes; there is actually. When Jesus is presented in the temple they purchase a turtle dove. That would have been one of the less expensive things to buy to sacrifice. A more costly sacrificial animal would have been a spotless lamb. They were not refugees, of course, as has already been noted.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2016 06:30 PM (tOcW/)
---------------

Our priest has said the same thing regarding the doves versus the lamb.

Posted by: bluebell at December 27, 2016 07:23 PM (sBOL1)

303 1. Where are the angels in the creche? Angels are none of those identity groups.

2. Ace, when people refer to the Holy Family as migrants or refugees, they're probably trying --and failing-- to connect those words with the flight to Egypt, not the census. Even when fleeing to Egypt they were not at all like modern refugees, because they were moving from one province of the Roman Empire to another (so they weren't international), and even more importantly, they returned after a few years rather than lived in an alien land forever. (Someone else might have already pointed these out, but I can't check 300+ comments right now.)

Posted by: logprof at December 27, 2016 07:38 PM (GsAUU)

304 "The example of Jesus presentation at the temple, Matthew tells us that
the offering was two doves. This was the gift of the very poor to the
temple"

Or someone whose ready cash was just wiped out by paying Roman taxes.

Posted by: rabidfox at December 27, 2016 07:41 PM (EW9tX)

305 If you check out any nativity scene, you will see it without any news media types, as God brought his own angels to TRUMPet the occasion.

Posted by: Jack Reacher at December 27, 2016 07:42 PM (e8kgV)

306 222 When are they commissioning the USS John M. Roll?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


He was a Republican, and has frankly become an un-person. Down the memory hole.

Like he never existed. Mention his name and get blank stares.
__________________________

The new federal court house in Yuma, AZ was named in honor of Judge Roll (in 2014). John was well loved in the legal community here, and has not been forgotten in Arizona.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 27, 2016 08:03 PM (riF5p)

307 That is absolutely disgusting.
He should be fired immediately.
But neither he nor ABC have any shame, they will double down and defend this to the hilt.
After all: it fits the meme, so it's good!

Posted by: 5Cats at December 27, 2016 08:22 PM (afIvp)

308 264 OT: Hillary's book Hard Choices is at Ollies Discount Outlet for $4.99. Retail is $34.99
----------------
can't wait for the sequel: Hard Losses

Posted by: Guam tipper at December 27, 2016 08:29 PM (/DvFd)

309 Matthew Dowd seems to be a single-issue Republican voter.

It's just too bad that his single issue is apparently "making Democrats happy".

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 27, 2016 08:35 PM (0OG8D)

310 Joseph and Mary weren't refugees; they were taxpayers.

Posted by: Dan at December 27, 2016 08:37 PM (Nmvf6)

311 There are two kinds of sermons - the ones designed to genuinely educate, inspire, uplift, and correct the congregation, and the ones designed to make Us Good Christians feel oh so much better then Those Evil Sinners Out There.

Matthew Dowd, and the rest of them, preach the second kind.

Posted by: McGeorge at December 27, 2016 09:18 PM (H4fR0)

312 Posting late.. you would think a journalist, trying to sound Christian, would at least check his translation.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grevious fault!

Said while striking ones breast three times. Originally also said while kneeling, early in the mass. It was part of the Confetior (confession) confession. Sadly in most novus ordo (new order) masses, the priest skips the modern version. IMHO, it's a good prayer to remind one self that sinners all are we.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at December 27, 2016 09:21 PM (5Z34V)

313 Dowd seems like a bitter clinger to the same racist angst that made all those other leftists burn their cars or churches or hijabs and blame Trump supporters...

Posted by: Mike at December 27, 2016 09:50 PM (+B1Ea)

314 Think he'd listen to a repeated baseball bat to his junk?

Posted by: Tradd at December 27, 2016 10:32 PM (EQcBC)

315 I've got a whole bag of dicks right here, just waiting for Matthew "Maureen" Dowd to start chowin' down.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 28, 2016 01:23 AM (0OG8D)

316 I consider myself fairly well read ( i read Ace all the time) and know a lot of the players, was very interested in this election cycle, read a lot of people and their opinions in media and social media.... but i honestly have to ask: who the hell is matthew dowd??

Posted by: cathymv at December 28, 2016 08:00 AM (xMEER)

317 315
I've got a whole bag of dicks right here, just waiting for Matthew "Maureen" Dowd to start chowin' down.

Mo is as batty as they come, but I can't imagine her wasting her Christmas Eva twittering away like a brokenhearted high school girl.

Posted by: Wendy at December 28, 2016 09:20 AM (bpemY)

318 *laughter* What does he know about poor people?

Posted by: Loyd Jenkins at December 28, 2016 11:47 AM (+4sCY)

319 People use the passive voice when they're trying to weasel out of responsibility for statements. ...
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 27, 2016 06:44 PM (P8951)

Indeed and well said.

Posted by: Rick67 at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (bqer+)

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