EMT 12/11/16 - Back from the (felt like) dead.

I must apologize for missing last Sunday and yesterday morning.

Way too much work at crazy hours, and way too much flu made the 6 a.m. alarm clock turn off with nary a conscious thought.

Good news on both fronts:

The flu appears to be about eaten, and I don't work again until January.

Looking forward to a long Christmas break.

So, on the flu thing -- anyone have any luck with the flu shot? I've resisted taking it so far, but heck, if it would just help lessen and shorten the symptoms, I'd be tempted next year.

Posted by: krakatoa at 07:15 AM

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1 Yes on flu shot

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 07:13 AM (Om16U)

2 FIRST HAH!

About the flu shot, I started doing it after getting the flu one winter. It does seem to help, but not always - there are winters when I get flu-like symptoms anyway, but not as bad as that one time.

Glad you are feeling better, krak.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 07:16 AM (Om16U)

3 Yes on the flu shot.

I had a series of brain stem strokes back in 2007/2008 and was warned to get a flu shot each year because the flu would hit me hard. I have been diligent since then and received a flu shot each year, and *knock on wood* no bouts of flu during that time.

Posted by: Manila Ice Cream at December 11, 2016 07:18 AM (xiuDn)

4 Damn you for not giving us free ice cream! You call being sick an excuse?

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:18 AM (sdi6R)

5 I have never had a flu shot. Can't remember the last time I had anything like the flu. Just lucky I guess.

Posted by: freaked at December 11, 2016 07:19 AM (BO/km)

6 The worst of the flu season's coming up. Still plenty of time to get a flu shot.

Posted by: RickZ at December 11, 2016 07:19 AM (dQLTf)

7 I got a flu shot from my doctor this fall. I came down with probably a mild cold which made me feel crappy for a few days. I was told by a nurse that's its impossible to get the flu from a shot.....I don't believe in GW either, which is settled science, I am told....

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 07:19 AM (ogUTd)

8 I rarely get sick, the last time was about 5 years ago the time before that was probably fifteeen years.

I have zero experience with the flu shot.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2016 07:20 AM (+lv+r)

9 Posted by: Manila Ice Cream at December 11, 2016 07:18 AM (xiuDn)

free ice cream
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:18 AM (sdi6R)

There's the Horde mind at work again.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:20 AM (sdi6R)

10 Flu shots are a crapshoot. You're left to hope they formulated this year's vaccine for the strains of flu that will surface. They were saying in September that they'd missed it this year. Who knows?

The pneumonia shot, OTOH, is a good deal.

Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill at December 11, 2016 07:22 AM (voYu7)

11 Thanks for the heads up Votor Mom.

And I would tell you what I do instead of a flu shot and why, and the results, but someone would just chime in about how that's just anecdotal and not approved by "real medicine" so...

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 07:22 AM (gJ3Vg)

12 'Manila Ice Cream'

Baskin Robbins failed attempt at home delivery?

Posted by: freaked at December 11, 2016 07:23 AM (BO/km)

13 I've gotten flu shots in the past, mainly when I was already going to the doctor for something else. But I don't go out of my way and make a special appointment just to get one.

It seems like it's guesswork as to which strain will be prevalent in any given year, and that year's flu shot might not protect against the strain that actually appears.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:23 AM (sdi6R)

14 Have not had flu shot in decades. Have not had the flu, either. Not saying there's any connection.

Posted by: Uncle Elwood at December 11, 2016 07:24 AM (UW4Uc)

15 The doctor is always on me to get a flu shot, which I do about half the time. So, no, never noticed a difference.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 11, 2016 07:25 AM (ZKlDy)

16 I've gotten one for the past 10 years. It can be a crap shoot because the vaccine they make up is supposed to work on a flu strain that they think will be a problem. They make it up a year? in advance so it might not always be the best bullet.
I get one because anytime I've gotten the flu, I go down like a sack of potatoes.
Along with that, I take vitamin 4000 mg D3 daily.

Also, wash your hands, and keep them away from your eyes, nose, mouth.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 07:25 AM (8ikIW)

17 I haven't had the flu in fifteen years but then I don't come in contact with a lot of people. Exposure is the biggest risk, especially if you interact a lot with kids.

Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill at December 11, 2016 07:27 AM (voYu7)

18 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 11, 2016 07:27 AM (irT2h)

19 Time is like, you know, different in, you know, Japan. They have like, you know, a "zone" for their, you know, time.

Posted by: Ambassador Caroline Kennedy at December 11, 2016 07:28 AM (97XyN)

20 Also, if any co-worker comes into the office coughing up a lung and snotting all over the place instead of calling in sick, put a plastic bag over their head and close it off at the neck until the symptoms go away.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 07:29 AM (8ikIW)

21 DO NOT GOOGLE MANILA ICE CREAM!!

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2016 07:31 AM (+aRH6)

22 Like I tell my mother-in-law, be sure to lick the handle of the cart every time you go shopping.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 11, 2016 07:31 AM (ZKlDy)

23 I'm exposed to the petri dish of disease, our school systems.

I get a flu shot every year, without fail. No flu.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 11, 2016 07:32 AM (u82oZ)

24 7 I got a flu shot from my doctor this fall. I came down with probably a mild cold which made me feel crappy for a few days.
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This has also happened to me. My thought is that I got the shot while my body was in a weak sickish state already.

(Also, never get a nasal spray vaccine. That's Russian roulette, imo)

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 07:32 AM (Om16U)

25 Got a Flu shot 3 years ago. A day later I was sick as hell. Lated all the way to the next spring.

Last Couple of years, nothing, not even a cold.

Like someone else said, a crap shoot.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:33 AM (d76uN)

26 Nearly two hundred people marched around MT Bank Stadium Saturday to protest the appearance of President-elect Donald Trump at the Army-Navy football game in Baltimore.

This group has "high hopes" that they can get the Electoral College to change enough votes to stop Trump from the presidency, and pigs will fly on that day. Group calls itself the Mid-Atlantic General Defense Committee, so if your asked for $, please don't give...

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 07:34 AM (ogUTd)

27 I've gotten a flu shot every year of my adult life because it was mandatory or free. Haven't had the flu, but is that because of the shots? Who knows.

I tend to catch a cold from my wheezy coworkers only if I've had a few nights in a row of no sleep and my defenses are down. Otherwise, you can sneeze right in my face and nada (although I will cough back in retaliation).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 07:34 AM (EnKk6)

28 Dammit! Youse guys distracted me and the fire's out. Serves me right for burning hickory. If you can get it to burn it's fine but it's a hard starter and it'll go out if you don't keep stirring it up. Where did I put the poker?

Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill at December 11, 2016 07:35 AM (voYu7)

29 I view a flu shot as training for my immune system receptors. Lots of mutations in flu, so I give my system the best chance to identify and stop the flu.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 11, 2016 07:35 AM (u82oZ)

30 And Kid in college I nag to get a flu shot as soon as it is available (free there anyway)

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 07:35 AM (Om16U)

31 26 Nearly two hundred people marched around MT Bank Stadium Saturday to protest the appearance of President-elect Donald Trump at the Army-Navy football game in Baltimore.

This group has "high hopes" that they can get the Electoral College to change enough votes to stop Trump from the presidency, and pigs will fly on that day. Group calls itself the Mid-Atlantic General Defense Committee, so if your asked for $, please don't give...
Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 07:34 AM (ogUTd)

Now I'm picturing 200 protesters marching around singing "High Hopes".

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:35 AM (sdi6R)

32 I've never bothered with the flu shot and can't recall the last time I had the flu, but I would strongly urge everyone to get a pertussis booster shot. The immunity from the vaccine you got as a kid wears off by the time you're an adult and herd immunity no longer exists in the USA. (Thanks, Obama)

Posted by: biancaneve at December 11, 2016 07:36 AM (m8jQF)

33 Well, that's a load of shit. My snowthrower just broke. The cable that actuates the blades snapped, and it doesn't look like an easy fix. Guess it's back to the shovels for me.

Posted by: sawhorse at December 11, 2016 07:36 AM (JIz7y)

34 Nearly two hundred people marched around MT Bank Stadium Saturday to protest the appearance of President-elect Donald Trump at the Army-Navy football game in Baltimore.
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I saw a lot of enthusiasm from the men and women in uniform (and even a few Trump signs, which I thought would be verboten). Think they could take on the protesters?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 07:36 AM (EnKk6)

35 Never had a flu shot, story goes it's a crap shoot if they guess the strain thats going to be the big outbreak.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 07:37 AM (5sOEp)

36 Hello everyone. Once again today I have to preach for two services. One is at a place i have not handled the worship service before, just done communion so prayer would be appreciated.

The morning got off to a rocky start when I went to my local supermarket to get some crayons so kids can do word searches and coloring, and someone had dropped a bit of tomato by the door. I didn't see it, and slipped and landed on my knee and then fell on my back. It was a lovely pratfall.
I had to sit on a bench there while the store manager did a incident report and took a picture of my knee.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:37 AM (tOcW/)

37 Well, that's a load of shit. My snowthrower just
broke. The cable that actuates the blades snapped, and it doesn't look
like an easy fix. Guess it's back to the shovels for me.

Posted by: sawhorse

I hope it's an easy fix.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 07:38 AM (8ikIW)

38 I didn't get the flu shot for many years, until the H1N1 scare rolled around. During that scare, many people died of the flu in other countries, but not so much in the US. One, we have much better healthcare in the country, but also, one of the components in H1N1 had been given in a flu shot a few years before, and even that was enough to limit the effects of the flu in this country.
During that time, I read that for many years after WW2, in Japan, the flu shot was mandatory for school-aged children. At one point, the Japanese decided it was not necessary, and stopped getting their children vaccinated. Death rate from the flu jumped significantly - in the elderly Apparently kids can get the flu and survive no problem, but they became carriers to the extended family members they lived with. So, not only get the flu shot, but make sure your kids get the shot as well. Which reminds me, I need to get my kids their shots this year.
And like Bruce says, wash your hands a lot, and if you can avoid touching doorknobs, do so.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 feet CO at December 11, 2016 07:39 AM (JreH3)

39 Creeper, Merry Christmas back to you.

Light that fire.

Picture of Saturn-V shaped stove and LOX and kerosine lines leading to it. Um, no.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 11, 2016 07:40 AM (u82oZ)

40 Just what makes that little old ant
Think he can move a rubber tree plant

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 07:40 AM (gJ3Vg)

41 Sorry Fen! That can hurt like the dickens.

Did it tear your fishnet stockings?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 07:40 AM (EnKk6)

42 Fenelon, are you okay? Did you injure anything?

Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill at December 11, 2016 07:40 AM (voYu7)

43 My knee hurts but not incredibly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:41 AM (tOcW/)

44 I sympathize with you Fenelon. I'm pretty darned klutzy myself.

Maybe it's time to slow down and help yourself?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:42 AM (d76uN)

45 Did it tear your fishnet stockings?

Yes, and it was an embarrassing display with my miniskirt. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:42 AM (tOcW/)

46 43
My knee hurts but not incredibly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:41 AM (tOcW/)
Ugh. I hope it doesn't give you trouble standing while delivering the sermon.

Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill at December 11, 2016 07:42 AM (voYu7)

47 FenelonSpoke

I hope you are OK, and groceries were free to preclude a lawsuit.

I just added more amps to the prayer wheel motors for you. Have a serene day, FenelonSpoke.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (u82oZ)

48 "I hope it doesn't give you trouble standing while delivering the sermon."

Use a High Chair!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (d76uN)

49 It's Hector Berlioz' birthday. That is all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (MZcWR)

50 Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:42 AM (d76uN)

I'm usually not too klutzy and as I rather irritatingly said while I was on the ground "This was not from my coffee" (I had a cup of coffee that also went everywhere). There is something by your door i slipped on.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:44 AM (tOcW/)

51 I used to get flu shots for my kids, on the advice of my pediatrician, and for myself. Then one year the swine flu hit. It was like having a rotavirus and a respiratory flu at the same time. Two of three kids caught it (sent the healthy one to grandma's to keep her away); we did not leave the house for 10 days. I expected to come down with it, but never did. Learned later that many years prior, a similar virus had rifled its way through the population, and if you had suffered through it (as I must have), you were immune to swine flu.

That says to me that having the flu, however, miserable, helps build your immune system. Sorta like what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger. So I decided I'm done with flu shots, at least until I'm old and feeble, and getting the flu could actually kill me.

Glad you are feeling better krak, and yes to Bruce's advice, especially regarding what to do about co-workers who come to the office and snot all over the place.

Posted by: Tired Mom at December 11, 2016 07:45 AM (kkfH9)

52 Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (u82oZ)

Thanks very much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:45 AM (tOcW/)

53 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:44 AM (tOcW/)

I trip over smoke and yes it's embarrassing. I use a Cane to walk but still usually my Wife will hang onto me and kick the smoke out of the way.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:47 AM (d76uN)

54 Sorry that you had the flu, Krakato and glad that you have some time off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:47 AM (tOcW/)

55 I hope you're OK, FenelonSpoke.

I slipped on a patch of black ice a couple of years ago and landed hard on my hip and hand. I'm lucky I didn't break anything.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:48 AM (sdi6R)

56 Get the flu shot. Do it for the same reason you were given the polio shot, measles shot, etc., so as not to become diseased.

The flu is like a two-week bad hangover. You wouldn't want a two-week bad hangover, would you?

Posted by: Michael Haz at December 11, 2016 07:50 AM (9ivOl)

57 49 It's Hector Berlioz' birthday. That is all.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (MZcWR)
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I love Berlioz! He set the standard for conductors with mop of hair gesticulating wildly with baton.

One of the first records I ever bought was Karajan conducting his "Roman Carnival Overture" and Liszt's "Les Preludes" and Respighi's "The Pines of Rome".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 07:52 AM (EnKk6)

58 You shouldn't wear your stilettos to the grocery, Fen.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at December 11, 2016 07:53 AM (x3uSY)

59 I have always felt (and read) that growing up with animals is the best thing for kids. They are exposed to all sort of things from dogs, cats, cows, horses, etc. I believe this to be very true....

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 07:54 AM (ogUTd)

60 Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at December 11, 2016 07:53 AM (x3uSY)

Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 07:54 AM (tOcW/)

61 39 days! (or so) can you guess what will happen?

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 07:58 AM (ogUTd)

62 Madame and I put up some 300 feet of heavy-duty hog paneling (in 16 foot sections) to line the puppies' pens. Little so-and-sos had learned to break out. We were so sore afterwards that Her Majesty forewent her usual Saturday oysters and margarita at our favorite seafood restaurant. Still hurt this morning.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 07:58 AM (J8/9G)

63 They are exposed to all sort of things from dogs, cats, cows, horses, etc. I believe this to be very true....

Posted by: Colin

Playing and being outside is also a good idea.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 07:59 AM (8ikIW)

64 Coptic Christian Church in Cairo bombed by mostly peaceful terrorist.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zu3uhod

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 11, 2016 07:59 AM (d76uN)

65 45 Did it tear your fishnet stockings?

Yes, and it was an embarrassing display with my miniskirt. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I just hope you didn't break a heel on your Jimmy Choo stiletto heels.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 08:00 AM (8FCOT)

66 (AP) - The 2016 campaign season has finally ended, with Louisiana's runoff election cementing Republican control of the U.S. Senate. The GOP also is holding onto the two U.S. House seats that were undecided going into the state's runoff election.

Republican state Treasurer John Kennedy's victory Saturday gives the GOP a 52-48 edge in the Senate starting in January. His runoff campaign focused on his support for President-elect Donald Trump and opposition to the Affordable Care Act.

What a novel idea for Republicans. Run against Barry and his shitty Obamacare.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2016 08:01 AM (auHtY)

67 Back in the '80s my genius Uncle Robert stuck his hand into his snowblower to check if the blade was still spinning. Luckily his fingertips were reattatchable. Didn't happen twice.

Posted by: Finger Tip Control at December 11, 2016 08:01 AM (Wmh8q)

68 When I adopted a pair of kittens 16 years ago, I discovered that I was allergic to cats. I had never had them growing up.

My doctor tried several asthma medications, and finally settled on Advair. I took it for years, but gradually the symptoms lessened and I found myself taking it less often, and finally stopped altogether. It looks like I built up an immunity to the kittehs.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 08:04 AM (sdi6R)

69 On the other hand, you should absolutely wear these when you give the sermon;

http://tinyurl.com/j2l9hmd

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at December 11, 2016 08:04 AM (x3uSY)

70 49 It's Hector Berlioz' birthday. That is all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2016 07:43 AM (MZcWR)

His Requiem Mass is scored for, among others, 50 brasses, 16 drums, 2 bass drums, 10 cymbals, a gong and a chorus of 400.

On the first page of the score, he says that these numbers are relative and the size of the orchestra can be increased so long as the size of the chorus is made larger in proportion.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 08:04 AM (J8/9G)

71 I had my 4 year old get a flu shot in October because I wanted to protect my infant from the flu (she can't get the flu shot until late January when she's 6 months old). Of course, my 4 year old came down with a severe cold exactly one week after the flu shot, to the point that I thought he had the flu. We kept them separated and the baby didn't get whatever he had. Pediatrician said they haven't seen much flu this year yet (we're in Texas), but flu they have seen has a lot of stomach symptoms. YAY! So I wavered on getting the flu shot, but I need to get it so baby gets my immunity. Sigh.

I feel certain the flu caused my older son to get pneumonia when he was 18 months old. He recovered easily once he started taking antibiotics, but my husband and I both got his virus, and it was the sickest either of us had been since childhood. Ugh.

Posted by: Kat at December 11, 2016 08:05 AM (OUwBH)

72 Good morning all! What is it about our IL residents that we are all up with the birds?

Fen, take regular aspirin during the day today. Tomorrow is when you will be really sore and regular aspirin really minimizes the muscle soreness.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 11, 2016 08:06 AM (MIKMs)

73 G'morning, all.

Army/Navy game was a blast, as always.

PE Trump did get very good appease when he appeared on the big screen.

His description of not the best football playing was not taken as an insult, but as an honest statement of fact.

Our brand new Mayor of Baltimore took a hand written letter to hi, describing how his campaign promises of support to the cities could be specifically used i Baltimore, with examples, locations and concerns.

I believe it was presented with, and received with respect, and not as shouting demands for free stuff.

I got a good feeling about all this.

And congratulations to my Army brothers and sisters on their victory yesterday.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:06 AM (J+eG2)

74 Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 08:00 AM (8FCOT)

They were just Walmart stilettos. I haven't been able to afford Jimmy Cho's since I worked full time. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2016 08:07 AM (tOcW/)

75
And congratulations to my Army brothers and sisters on their victory yesterday.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

And to the combined Army Navy chorus that sang the National Anthem to start the game.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:08 AM (8ikIW)

76 Good morning all! What is it about our IL residents that we are all up with the birds?

When I hear the snowplows going by at 4 AM, I wonder how much snow we did get.
Once I start thinking it, it won't stay unthunked. Figure I might as well get an extra cuppa in before I crank up the snow blower.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:10 AM (8ikIW)

77 "And to the combined Army Navy chorus that sang the National Anthem to start the game. "

You're right.

And I was remiss in failing to mention that.

That one brought some dust to my eyes yesterday.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:10 AM (J+eG2)

78 I don't know much about the service academies, but I would think that the sports players not only made it into the academy because of their grades, they also are keeping those grades to an acceptable level without the Intro to Basketweaving type classes.

Plus they would still need to do all the soldier stuff that the academy expects. Am I correct on that?

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

79 My poor dog has not had a good night's sleep in weeks -- furnace is very noisy and snowplows worry him. We didn't get that much (3-4"), so I may even be able to do the preliminary scraping driveways and sidewalks and stuff. In my usually optimistic mood -- the plow drivers will have OT before Christmas this year, which is nice.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 11, 2016 08:14 AM (MIKMs)

80 I've sung the Berlioz Requiem. It is a kick to sing - just a massive wall of sound. At one point some of the brass played behind some of the upper box seats. It was hilarious to see the audience's faces when they suddenly heard a trumpet blasting behind them.

Posted by: biancaneve at December 11, 2016 08:15 AM (m8jQF)

81 My N=1 experience w/flu shot. I was inconsistent w/getting the shot for years. I couldn't make any corollary as to weather or not it worked.
A couple of years ago, I got the shot, and drove 3.5 hrs to KC for a work related awards dinner. Brought my wife/kids/MIL, we were going to make a weekend of it. At about the halfway mark on the drive, I started getting chills, then full on ever, shaking. I barely made it through the awards, then went to hotel and bed. 8 hours later, I was fine.
"That's impossible!!", I was told: all the little viri are dead. Welp, one of those buggers survived. Haven't gotten a shot, or the flu since.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 11, 2016 08:15 AM (ty7RM)

82 Army made a locker for Trump with a jersey that said "45". Nice!

Posted by: Jmel at December 11, 2016 08:17 AM (tv+BP)

83 We get the flu shot every year and never get the flu. Correlation is not causation, but still. . .

I turned 65 and Dr. gave me the "Prevnar 13" pneumonia shot. Worst shot I've had in a very long time. Extremely sore for several days afterwards, and a huge knot in my arm which is just going down after a week.

Posted by: fritzer at December 11, 2016 08:17 AM (lLJPt)

84 "Plus they would still need to do all the soldier stuff that the academy expects. Am I correct on that?"

Yes...yes you are.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:18 AM (J+eG2)

85 So I agreed to keep a friend's two dogs while she and her husband go on a seven-week vacation.

I should have asked one question:

"Do they shit, piss, and puke in the house every damn day?"

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 11, 2016 08:19 AM (97XyN)

86 Yes...yes you are.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Much Much more respect for the sports teams then

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:20 AM (8ikIW)

87 How does the Army and Navy handle the size waivers for their football teams?

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 11, 2016 08:20 AM (MIKMs)

88 I've never taken the flu shot but my mom does so religiously and while she does get sick some years, it's a mild event with more cold like symptoms.

Posted by: IC at December 11, 2016 08:21 AM (gcme+)

89 "Do they shit, piss, and puke in the house every damn day?"

Posted by: Cloyd Freud,

You're a better man then I, Gunga Din

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:22 AM (8ikIW)

90 Up early today in so cal, as I'm doing a 5k run for which I've not really trained for and my last run was in July and since this is for charity and a dress up run, I'll be attempting this dressed in an adult onesie looking like a reindeer.

Posted by: IC at December 11, 2016 08:23 AM (gcme+)

91 I haven't had the flu since I started getting a flu shot every year. Five years now.

It's also important to wash your hands and stay away from sick people.

If I'm out in public and have to handle stuff lots of others touch, like door knobs, I wash my hands as soon as I can.

Being a germophobe helps.

Posted by: ALH at December 11, 2016 08:24 AM (Z56vq)

92 Since my job requires me to be in close proximity to a lot of different people-

I've been taking the flu shot for years.

The upside:

No flu. Except, 2 years ago when they missed the strain. And oh, maybe 7 years ago same deal.

The downside:

None really. Flu shots are cheap and easily obtained.
Occasionally, I'll have a sore muscle at the injection site for a couple of days.

So get the flu shot.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2016 08:24 AM (9q7Dl)

93 I haven't had a flu shot since basic training in '70. Maybe it was coincidence, but I got the flu the very next day. It shied me away from flu shots though.

Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2016 08:24 AM (xBcs3)

94 I have a dear friend who played football for the Air Force Academy. They still have to be able to meet the weight standards of the service upon entering the Academy and upon graduation. This guy is 6'5". He was eating over 10,000 calories a day to beef up to the max weight, and then, he had to cut to graduate after the season ended. He said it wasn't even fun to eat that much.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 08:25 AM (hJamr)

95 87 How does the Army and Navy handle the size waivers for their football teams?
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 11, 2016 08:20 AM (MIKMs)
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I asked that myself. There were some beefy lads on those teams.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 08:26 AM (EnKk6)

96
12 'Manila Ice'

Isn't he President Duarte's favorite rapper?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 08:26 AM (qurRi)

97 No to the flu shot. Do wash your hands often though.

Yes to having your kids play outside, have pets, roll around in the dirt, etc. Builds muscles and immunity.

Yes to more coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 11, 2016 08:26 AM (5VlCp)

98 Good morning.

I'm on Team Flu Shot.

Two years out of the last 5 or so when I haven't gotten it, I've come down with the flu and been useless for more than 2 weeks.

Last year we didn't get around to it and my husband and I were so sick.

>>I got a flu shot from my doctor this fall. I came down with probably a mild cold which made me feel crappy for a few days. I was told by a nurse that's its impossible to get the flu from a shot

My understanding is that it makes your immune system react, so some people do feel sick afterwards. My husband usually feels icky for a few days, but the rest of us never feel it. And he's had ever shot known to man before deployments...

So yeah, you can't get the flu or a cold, but you sure can get the symptoms.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:28 AM (gTQoY)

99 I got my Christmas tree out of the attic yesterday, plugged it in, and nothing. I remember having trouble with it last year and finally got it to work, but I don't remember what I did.

So I guess I need to go shopping for a new tree. I like the one I have. It's about 20-25 years old and belonged to my parents. It's a scraggly little Charlie Brown-sized tree, which is perfect for my needs.

Back when I was a kid we always got live trees, and had fun putting the lights and ornaments on it. But nowadays all I want is a little one that is plug & play.

I suppose it's too much to want one that is made in the USA. The one I have was made in China, and I guess that's all I'll be able to find now. I guess the newer ones will have LED lights, so that will be an upgrade.

Anyone have suggestions?

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 08:28 AM (sdi6R)

100 anyone have any luck with the flu shot?
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Impossible to say for sure, but I've been taking it for years and haven't had the flu in years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2016 08:28 AM (ZO497)

101 We keep hand sanitizer in the car and use it every time we're out.

And wash hands when we get home.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:30 AM (gTQoY)

102 Oh and if you're getting the flu shot -

Remember

It takes about six weeks for it to fully kick in.

So, get it in late Sept, early Oct if you can.

If you get the shot and then a week or two later are exposed to the flu....you're getting the flu.

This ain't a magic bullet, people. So, plan accordingly.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (9q7Dl)

103 Since we are talking vaccinations, if you are 60 or older, get the shingles vaccination. That stuff is awful. You do not want it.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (hJamr)

104 That Jessica Chasten turkey of a movie must be a real stinker.

NBC is having a very long article about her on TV right now.

Must be time to push the narrative.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (J+eG2)

105 Here you go, rickl:

https://tinyurl.com/jfv6p6y

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (EnKk6)

106 Since we are talking vaccinations, if you are 60 or older, get the shingles vaccination. That stuff is awful. You do not want it.
Posted by: no good deed
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That.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2016 08:32 AM (ZO497)

107 I've not had a case the flu since I started getting the shots. We get them free at work so it's silly not to take advantage of the offer. I'm glad I did. I still remember what it felt like to a bad case of influenza and I don't ever wish to feel that crappy again.

Posted by: Tuna at December 11, 2016 08:33 AM (JSovD)

108 Since we are talking vaccinations, if you are 60 or older, get the shingles vaccination. That stuff is awful. You do not want it.
Posted by: no good deed
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I say get the shot no matter what age. I contracted shingles in my 30's. It sucks, and blows, at the same time. Really, it's bad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2016 08:34 AM (ZO497)

109 >>I suppose it's too much to want one that is made in the USA.

Oh, you can get them. Just not cheap. Maybe Balsam Hill? Maybe.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:34 AM (gTQoY)

110
I haven't had a flu shot since basic training in '70. Maybe it was coincidence, but I got the flu the very next day.
Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2016 08:24 AM

That is exactly the last year I got a flu shot,and exactly what happened to me. I was sick as a dog and missed a week of work for the first and only time in my life.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 11, 2016 08:35 AM (FIrEF)

111 Really, it's bad.

I had a mild case when I was in my early teens. I cannot imagine how bad it can get if mine was mild. Just a small patch on my shoulder blade and I couldn't put on a shirt for two weeks.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 08:36 AM (hJamr)

112 Flu shots are about 70% effective, but can also reduce the level of illness from the flu. If you have any of the risk symptoms, get the flu shot. Young, old, around kids, chronic illness, Doctor, Nurse, etc. Having the shot can also help you not spread the flu to others. An 80% effective vaccine given to 80% of the population can pretty much eliminate a communicable disease. Of course the flu changes every year so the heard immunity does not build like in the case of smallpox etc. I get it every year, so far I have not gotten the flu during a year with the shot. I did have a couple of bad cases in previous years. The certainty of a small pain and some soreness outweighs the low to moderate possibility of getting the flu. I am in the highly recommended group and for me the shots are free, so not a hard decision. I just wish they could come up with one for colds, even if it took many years of cold shots to have a high probability of hitting the right strains.

Posted by: Fredlike at December 11, 2016 08:36 AM (AHd0y)

113 105 Here you go, rickl:

https://tinyurl.com/jfv6p6y

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (EnKk6)

OK, that's close.

Except for the fact that it's 6' tall and pink.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 08:36 AM (sdi6R)

114 The Balsam Hill trees are as good as advertised...pricey maybe but three years in and we love ours.

Posted by: Patrick Henry at December 11, 2016 08:37 AM (a7IXj)

115 Except for the fact that it's 6' tall and pink.

Posted by: rickl

So 6' tall OR pink is okay?

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:38 AM (8ikIW)

116 One is at a place i have not handled the worship service before, just done communion so prayer would be appreciated.

++++

Give em the old You're all sinners and going to Hell sermon. People always like that one

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at December 11, 2016 08:38 AM (U0lQa)

117 That Jessica Chasten turkey of a movie must be a real stinker.

NBC is having a very long article about her on TV right now.

Must be time to push the narrative.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:31 AM (J+eG2)

Whoever came up with that poster and the TV ads is a moron. (not the good kind)

They might as well have titled the movie:

"Angry Glaring Woman Glares Angrily For 2 Hours"

No, thank you.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2016 08:38 AM (9q7Dl)

118 "Since we are talking vaccinations, if you are 60 or older, get the shingles vaccination. That stuff is awful. You do not want it. "

Absolutely!! My dad and brother-in-law both had the shingles. It's unbelievably horribly painful and takes forever to go away. I got the shot as soon as it was available.

Also, over 65? Make sure you get the pneumonia shot for seniors. It's a lifesaver.

Posted by: Tuna at December 11, 2016 08:38 AM (JSovD)

119 Why did the Bezos and Slim Blogs pull a story about 20 Norewegians in a pedo ring? They used to have them because the results show up in Bing. Now they are gone. Fox still has it up. The ABC story is gone. It was an AP report.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at December 11, 2016 08:39 AM (J70i0)

120 6 ft is too short?? There's a place that does 50 ft ones.

Crystal Valley dot com.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:39 AM (gTQoY)

121 And congratulations to my Army brothers and sisters on their victory yesterday.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

And to the combined Army Navy chorus that sang the National Anthem to start the game.

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:08 AM (8ikIW)

Looked this up and wow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7lIYCikdT4

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2016 08:39 AM (wCEn4)

122 Fenelon, so sorry to hear! Get some ice on that knee.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 08:40 AM (Om16U)

123 110
You probably had the bug before you got the shot.

Posted by: Tuna at December 11, 2016 08:41 AM (JSovD)

124 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at December 11, 2016 08:39 AM (J70i0)

Obviously, #FakeNews has no place in a moral and ethical truth-seeking society, so I expect topics like that will no longer be presented to the ignorant public for consideration!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2016 08:41 AM (wCEn4)

125 Looked this up and wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7lIYCikdT4

Posted by: Hrothgar

If anyone would have taken a knee for it, do you think that they would be able to eat solid food again?

Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:41 AM (8ikIW)

126 Don't know if they still have the offer, but we got a $5 gift card from Target for getting the flu shots there.

Take the kids, sign in and fill out paper work, shop for a while til they are ready for us, get the shots and spend the gift cards!

And as of Dec. 1 Tricare doesn't do CVS/Target any more.

Fun while it lasted.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:42 AM (gTQoY)

127 And "Fake News" is the next huge video segment on NBC Sunday Today.

The talking points are all being ticked off.

The election must have been influenced, and therefore the Trump victory should be delegitimized.

F'n MSM operates on a clockwork like schedule of slinging BS to the masses.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:42 AM (J+eG2)

128 Yes on flu shot. I didn't get it for years, then I had kids. I seemed to pick up every bug they brought home, and it would be a two week ordeal, on the order of like six instances plus a year. I got the flu shot last two years, including the one that was supposedly a dud, and it has been relatively smooth sailing, since.

Thanks for the reminder, as I have not gotten one yet this year.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 11, 2016 08:44 AM (GX63o)

129 Someone at church had shingles and it got in his ear.

Had balance issues because of it and still can't do ladders a couple years later.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:45 AM (gTQoY)

130 Posted by: Bruce at December 11, 2016 08:41 AM (8ikIW)

That's one game you can expect everyone to stand for the National Anthem (or else)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2016 08:46 AM (wCEn4)

131 The Balsam Hill trees look nice, but the smallest one is 4.5' tall. I want about 2'.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 08:46 AM (sdi6R)

132 My tabletop 'tree' is a repurposed tree-shaped holiday card holder. Put LOTS of lights on it and a few bead garlands -- and it folds up for storage and don't even have to remove the lights. Inexpensive (cheap) and convenient. Bright enough to read by and looks great from outside and inside. Of course, I am very nearsighted, but the kids like it so I'll take that as a win.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 11, 2016 08:46 AM (MIKMs)

133 Yes, Target is still offering a $5 gift card when you get the flu shot.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:46 AM (gTQoY)

134 I see that Baltimore has jumped to 302 murders this year.

Remember, for those playing our home game.....

The Chicago/Baltimore correction ratio is roughly 4.2:1.

300 Baltimore murders is equal to over 1,200 Chicago murders.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:48 AM (J+eG2)

135 For the tree
My house is kinda small and we'd gotten a six footer. After wrestling with it we went shopping and I spotted these columnar style trees and was filled with envy and buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at December 11, 2016 08:48 AM (U0lQa)

136 >>I didn't see it, and slipped and landed on my knee and then fell on my back.

Poor Fen.

Will pray.

And won't start any rumors about why you took a knee and whether the nat'l anthem was playing.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:48 AM (gTQoY)

137 Absolutely yes on flu shots. I get one every year because I have chronic asthma and any kind of respiratory illness is a bitch to kick. Once about 10 or 15 years ago, there was a big shortage of vaccine so I didn't get my shot. I got the flu - fever, aches all over that nothing relieved, and chills, holy cow it was such a misrery - I could have developed shingles - I had a patch on my leg that could have been just that - and I was knocked on my ass for two solid weeks at home, and the third week, I went back to work and could only manage half days.

So yes on flu shots - I ALWAYS get one. And while you are recovering, krakatoa, TAKE IT EASY. Very, very easy. Do NOT push yourself.

Posted by: Tonestaple at December 11, 2016 08:49 AM (B6m/l)

138 The vaccine only covers 3 strain of the A type. It will either work or not work. Get it early to avoid the cold season. That way, you can't blame the vaccine for your illness.

Posted by: Spock at December 11, 2016 08:50 AM (djGqn)

139 That 20 some Norwegians busted in pedophile ring story is dead wrong and fake.

They arrested 51 men, not 20.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 08:50 AM (V2e0l)

140 And like Bruce says, wash your hands a lot, and if you can avoid touching doorknobs, do so.
Posted by: Nancy
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I always wipe my hands with paper towels at work in the restroom, then use the paper towels to open the door..
It may sound flaky but there are germs everywhere and that's just one little thing to do to avoid them.
I haven't had a real flu in decades.. get a good cold nearly every year, though.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 11, 2016 08:50 AM (UpGcq)

141 Flu shot

Ask for the quadrivalent

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at December 11, 2016 08:51 AM (U0lQa)

142 Oh good, John Kennedy and Mike Johnson won yesterday.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 08:52 AM (gTQoY)

143 That way, you can't blame the vaccine for your illness.
Posted by: Spock
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You underestimate my power of blamecasting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2016 08:52 AM (ZO497)

144 33
Well, that's a load of shit. My snowthrower just broke. The cable that actuates the blades snapped, and it doesn't look like an easy fix. Guess it's back to the shovels for me.

Posted by: sawhorse at December 11, 2016 07:36 AM (JIz7y)

Just stick your hand in there and actuate it. What could go wrong? And get the flu shot, too.

Posted by: MSM fake advice at December 11, 2016 08:53 AM (GX63o)

145 So, my mom nags me to get the shingles shot. Are there aftereffects?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 08:53 AM (EnKk6)

146 So, my mom nags me to get the shingles shot. Are there aftereffects?
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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No. Get the shot.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2016 08:54 AM (ZO497)

147 My house is kinda small and we'd gotten a six footer. After wrestling with it we went shopping and I spotted these columnar style trees and was filled with envy and buyer's remorse.
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers
..............
Mu wife bought one of those 3 years ago when I was laid up at Christmas time. She and her friend were able to put it up by themselves. I really liked it and hoped we could continue using it.. but, alas, she wanted the big one back up the next year!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 11, 2016 08:54 AM (UpGcq)

148 Fenelon, if you have any medical bills resulting from your fall, the store should pay them. On the liability insurance, they probably have at least $10,000 to pay medical bills for anyone hurt on their premises and this can be paid without regard to fault. Stores know that slip-and-falls are their biggest exposure to claims so they know they need to be very diligent about keeping floors clean (I always alert a store employee if I see a mess on the floor). So don't hesitate to present them with any bills that result from this.

Posted by: Tonestaple at December 11, 2016 08:54 AM (B6m/l)

149 nood book

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 11, 2016 08:56 AM (9vlTF)

150 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:42 AM (J+eG2)

I think the mainstream media still believed that they and they alone wore the Walter Cronkite mantle of the indispensable purveyor of absolute truth. The Internet and Social media were only viewed by a few rabid conservatives, and Twitter and Facebook were on the big narrative team, so they could be counted on to keep the rubes in line.

Then BREXIT and Trump showed them up as partisan liberal apparatchiks and various sources, like WikiLeaks, provided some insight into the inner workings of the global liberal power structure.

They now have a sacred (to them) mission to ensure this can NEVER happen again. We are just beginning to see their active attack designed to discredit #FakeNews under all circumstances and on any topic!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2016 08:56 AM (wCEn4)

151 Iirc that Norwegian pedo ring included a couple, woman was pregnant and they were discussing ways to exploit and abuse the baby.

Saw the Norwegian article last week and ran it through Google translate so I HOPE I misunderstood.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 08:57 AM (Om16U)

152 I get the Flu Shot & it works wonders for me ! But also not around as many people as I used to be, so obviously the more people you are around the better chance you have of being around someone who is contagious

Posted by: Evilpens at December 11, 2016 09:00 AM (y3aQB)

153 I have never done the flu shot thing. I have an auto-immune problem, but last year my doctor told me I could go ahead and get the flu shot. I think he said it should be the nasal mist. Can't remember. Didn't do it.

Shingles is awful. Unfortunately that one is a no-no for me because it is a live virus.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 09:04 AM (dFi94)

154 Holy crapola they are censoring it

Delete spaces

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/ comments/5hmatq/ mainstream_media_deleting_mention_of_norwegian/

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 09:05 AM (Om16U)

155 But the New York Times assured me that pedo rings are #FakeNews.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 09:06 AM (sdi6R)

156 If you bing Norwegian pedophile ring the NYT article comes up but the link is a 404

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 11, 2016 09:08 AM (Om16U)

157 No to the flu shot. We have a friend who got one and then ended up in the ER paralysed. Later found out that it triggered guillain barre syndrome in him. That is nasty stuff. He is still dealing with it and that was 2 years ago. Some of the damage will be with him the rest of his life.
And we have not had them in years, I simply do not trust the source enough to avert possibly being sick for a week or in my friends case much worse.

Posted by: Roadking at December 11, 2016 09:08 AM (mTYrx)

158 Grammie, I think they stopped doing the nasal mist because it didn't work.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 09:09 AM (gTQoY)

159 Academy football hasn't changed much in 60 years. The rest of college football did. So, to avoid mockery, irrelevance, and playing in the sprint leagues, academy coaches have, for over 20 years now, tried this and that to hunk up their lines. One thing I witnessed was my cousin's boy, well on his way to career NCO, a mighty hunk with natural football talent, being offered a mustang scholarship. It was honest and up-front, and the service gave him a pretty nice couple of day campus visit, upbeat but no BS about what he'd have to hack to make it. And he decided he probably couldn't, and passed on it.

Air Force had a lot of success with a pro-grade dietician, finally coming up with a feed regime that would bulk those guys up and peel it off again. Nobody enjoys it, it can't be healthy, but if you're going to play in the semi-pro leagues there is just no alternative.

On the basket-weaving front, I've known a few academy athletes. They get a lot of help from classmates, and tutoring. If you write a paper for somebody at an Academy, you go to jail. Certainly, some guys get into the academy on blue-chips who otherwise would not, and this overlaps in an embarrassing way with certain other recruiting mandates--that all colleges have now.

But anybody on the line academically gets that kind of help; it's virtually mandatory, part of the "Brotherhood," and they won't let you fail unless you really want to. I've yet to see the situation go beyond good-natured joshing (that all athletes get) to veiled scandal. And there are no special classes just for players. As college ball continues to get "better," it's bound to happen.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 11, 2016 09:09 AM (H5rtT)

160 Grammie, I think they stopped doing the nasal mist because it didn't work.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 09:09 AM (gTQoY)
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Well dang. I guess I'll have to call my doctor and see if I can get the shot, which I probably won't get anyway. I know I can't do live viruses, so I'll see what he says. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 09:15 AM (dFi94)

161 Yes to the flu shot - It's like being exposed to a weakened attacker so you can mobilize your own army to destroy the actual threat on the horizon.

Wash your hands or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer (ABHR) especially before or after you touch your eyes, nose or mouth. The only time for regular people to not use an ABHR is if you have been around diarrhea.

And any healthcare worker who doesn't get the flu shot is unwelcome to take care of me or anyone I care about.

Posted by: Batterup at December 11, 2016 09:15 AM (mtGE/)

162 Book thread is up

Posted by: The guy with the hair at December 11, 2016 09:16 AM (zMWpG)

163 And any healthcare worker who doesn't get the flu shot is unwelcome to take care of me or anyone I care about.

Posted by: Batterup at December 11, 2016 09:15 AM (mtGE/)
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My daughter's a nurse, and it's mandatory for her.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 09:17 AM (dFi94)

164 I have only gotten the flu once in the 25+ years I've been getting the flu shot. That was the year that the CDC guessed wrong on the strains and everyone was getting sick.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 09:18 AM (0F67M)

165 >> use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer (ABHR)

I have some non-alcohol stuff in the car because my mom won't use the alcohol-based. Dries her skin out.

So...get the stronger stuff for the kids and me?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 09:18 AM (gTQoY)

166 Wot no Guillain-Barre stories? How quickly time passes.
The guy I knew who got it was an organist. Had to re-learn all the muscle-memory aspects of playing. He felt rather put upon by the whole ordeal.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 11, 2016 09:22 AM (H5rtT)

167 The Chicago/Baltimore correction ratio is roughly 4.2:1.

300 Baltimore murders is equal to over 1,200 Chicago murders.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2016 08:48 AM (J+eG2)

Will Chicago be able to reach 800 total homicides? I'm guessing they will, depends on how Christmas is celebrated by the gangbangers...Giving out parting shoots before New Years....I'm also rooting for 4000 shot....

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 09:26 AM (ogUTd)

168 Get the shot! Walgreen's....easy peasy and insurance paid for it. Asked for the Shingles shot but told ins. won't pay until age 60 (59 1/2 here)and it would cost me $225! Guess I'll wait 6 months.
Christmas tree...went to garage sale and bought 6 ft pre-lit $10. Looks great.

Posted by: Dailydish at December 11, 2016 09:26 AM (g5vXL)

169 >>166 Wot no Guillain-Barre stories? How quickly time passes.

See my post at 157....

Posted by: Roadking at December 11, 2016 09:28 AM (mTYrx)

170 I'd say get the flu shot. I've been getting it for the last 3 years or so, and I've never even caught a cold during that time. (Formerly I would get one once or twice a year.)
Feel better!

Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at December 11, 2016 09:30 AM (o38N1)

171 Wow....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmBhDjjp5M

Posted by: Byron at December 11, 2016 09:33 AM (2Y1kI)

172 It seems like it's guesswork as to which strain will be prevalent in any given year, and that year's flu shot might not protect against the strain that actually appears.
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2016 07:23 AM (sdi6R)

Yeah it's guesswork - but hell, what do you have to lose? It's just a shot for God's sake. Not that expensive, over in a second and you (maybe) have a slightly sore arm and (maybe) some protection against the flu. I have gotten one for the last 19 years. Many years it helps; sometimes they pick the wrong strain and it doesn't.

It's no big deal, unless for some reason you are physically incapable of handling the vaccine...they ask you ahead of time if you are allergic to eggs, are pregnant, or have a few other conditions which make it inadvisable to get one.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 09:44 AM (P8951)

173 Hey! I just remembered that Hilliary Clinton will never be President of the United States of America!

Thanks 2nd cup of coffee!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 09:49 AM (0F67M)

174 Try Influenzinum, homeopathic flu "shot". Have been using it since 1999, never has anyone in the family gotten the flu. And when you use it, you don't get all the mercury and other nasty shit that comes with the flu vaccine. This year's vaccine is particularly nasty with respect to additives.

Take one pellet per week for 4 weeks, take a week off, then take a pellet on week 6. That's it. Start before the first freeze. In Texas, I start in September.

http://www.influenzinum.com/

Posted by: MathMom at December 11, 2016 09:55 AM (AHxMr)

175
Has anyone here every changed a license plate using a screwdriver? Asking for a friend...

Do I have to add \sarc

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 10:03 AM (BK3ZS)

176 Bloomberg Politics
@bpolitics
Rick Perry is Trump's leading pick for energy secretary, sources say bloom.bg/2gsbSff

Posted by: Evilpens at December 11, 2016 10:13 AM (y3aQB)

177 http://www.influenzinum.com/
Posted by: MathMom at December 11, 2016 09:55 AM (AHxMr)

Homeopathy. Good Lord.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 11, 2016 10:16 AM (97XyN)

178 Never knew Bowie covered Warerloo Sunset

Posted by: Byron at December 11, 2016 10:36 AM (2Y1kI)

179 I've had the flu (twice) *after* receiving the flu shot, but upon reflection it was so soon after the shot that I probably hadn't time to build immunity and most likely was infected at the doctor's office.

Posted by: plum at December 11, 2016 10:44 AM (lnPaP)

180 Absolutely on the flu shot! Get it early enough so you're ahead of the crowd with the flu.

Posted by: Hopeful Dumbarse at December 11, 2016 10:47 AM (MWUxi)

181 I definitely vote for the flu shot. Even in seasons like last year, when there was antigenic drift after the vaccine was formulated, it can be helpful. The money quote from experts was: "It may not keep you from getting the flu but it can keep the flu from killing you."

I have seen flu deaths even in younger and healthy people. I get the shot every year.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 11, 2016 10:57 AM (LaT54)

182 Always, always take the sick day.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 11, 2016 11:37 AM (n3MnG)

183 Colin at 167, Shitcago shooting total well past 4100. See http://heyjackass.com for up to date numbers on murder, mayhem and mishegoss in the windy shitty.

Posted by: Scont at December 11, 2016 11:40 AM (zIY7N)

184 Patti Smith's Nobel version of A Hard Rain is very intense

Posted by: Byron at December 11, 2016 12:39 PM (M3DRt)

185 YES, get the flu shot. Also, getting a bad head or chest cold is NOT the flu. Getting a flu shot does not mean you won't get a cold. If you come down with the flu one time and you will know the difference. People who poo-poo the flu shot inevitably and erroneously thought the bad cold they got was the flu ... not so.

Yearly flu shot, just do it.

Posted by: starman at December 11, 2016 12:51 PM (Nb78M)

186 Cheart sticks don't work, devil bitch!

Posted by: Byron at December 11, 2016 01:41 PM (M3DRt)

187 No on the flu shot.

Last time I got one (2000)? I got the flu twice that season.

Thanks, but no.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 11, 2016 01:42 PM (0xzXo)

188 No on the flu shot. Got one in the Fall of 1967 courtesy of the USMC. Gave me the flu and took 20lbs away which I needed. Never got another flu shot. Haven't had the flu since then.

Posted by: Bud at December 11, 2016 02:30 PM (0Snyf)

189 I get the flu shot every year. At my age, flu starts getting dangerous. Plus, even if they miss this year's strains, maybe a shot I got some years ago was one that had this year's common strain in it and that previous shot would protect me. I figure, the more flu shots I get, the more strains I'll be protected from.

Posted by: Pat* at December 11, 2016 03:28 PM (qC1ju)

190 Millions of serious people have dedicated their entire lives to studying the effects of vaccinations. They work. Problem with flu is it is hundreds or thousands of different strains of specific flu virus, and the ability to accurately forecast which will be prevalent in a given season strains the capacity of 'vaccination actuaries' to select the proper viruses for inclusion in "this years vaccine." Get the shot and whichever ones are included will not affect you that year, except for the runny nose you might get for a day as a result of receiving the vaccine itself. And you will also congratulate yourself for increasing the "herd immunity" of all humans with which you associate, thereby decreasing your loved ones chances of catching the debilitating virus too. Way to go, humanist do-gooder. :-)

Posted by: jk at December 11, 2016 09:43 PM (qXhPG)

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