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Jill Stein's Agitations About Possible Vote Fraud Prompts Michigan Legislature to Pass Voter-ID Requirements Bill
Jill Stein didn't get the recount she wanted in Michigan, but she did get the state to take vote-integrity issues seriously. Meeting in its lame-duck session, the state House of Representatives passed a tough voter-ID bill that includes $3 million for funding of free state identification and birth certificates after over 18,000 voters cast ballots without identification in the presidential election...The current law, Sexton says, allows you to sign an affidavit affirming your identity in lieu of providing an ID. Note to Michigan: You can't catch someone defrauding the vote here because they're signing a name and address that isn't their own. How you gonna track them down? The new law would allow them to cast a provisional vote without an ID, but they'd have to show up within ten days after the election to present their ID to officials before their provisional vote would be treated as an actual vote and counted. It's preposterous we're even having this debate.
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Posted by: Jill Filipovic at December 08, 2016 03:59 PM (NOIQH)
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Your Voter ID Style is no match for my Reactionary DOJ.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 08, 2016 03:59 PM (UD0Gq)
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Crud. Off sock!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 03:59 PM (NOIQH)
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Unintended Consequences FTW
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (tf9Ne)
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The new law would allow them to cast a provisional vote without an ID, but they'd have to show up within ten days after the election to present their ID to officials before their provisional vote would be treated as an actual vote and counted.
It's preposterous we're even having this debate.
Amen.
You know what? I'm all in on saying hey let's make sure votes are cast properly and counted properly and anyone who violates that should face harsh prison time.
That this is a partisan issue in this day and time is beyond me.
It's preposterous we're even having this debate.
Amen.
You know what? I'm all in on saying hey let's make sure votes are cast properly and counted properly and anyone who violates that should face harsh prison time.
That this is a partisan issue in this day and time is beyond me.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (mf5HN)
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Thanks for the own goal Jill!
Posted by: Guzalot at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (prSvo)
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Slow clap like Charles Foster Kane...
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (J73Jf)
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Thanks Jill Stein!
Posted by: @votermom's phone at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (Om16U)
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Go Jilly!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 08, 2016 04:00 PM (8ZskC)
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There is literally no argument against voter ID laws that isn't pro-illegal-voting.
None. It doesn't exist.
None. It doesn't exist.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:01 PM (xeeHA)
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Come on. We all know it's impossible for a dedicated political party to take a bus of people from one polling place to the next, signing affidavits at every place, allowing dozens of votes per person is just the idea of a madman dreaming of futuristic dystopianism.
I mean...it's just impossible.
I mean...it's just impossible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
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It seems right.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (QQ+il)
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The new law would allow them to cast a provisional vote without an ID, but they'd have to show up within ten days after the election to present their ID to officials before their provisional vote would be treated as an actual vote and counted.
Do they not understand how confused black people will be about this?
Do they not understand how confused black people will be about this?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (8ZskC)
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Maybe NV can take a look into the integrity of their elections, too?
Recall reading that there was one county where over 9K votes out of 17K total were fishy/failed to reach address given by the voters. That's major.
Recall reading that there was one county where over 9K votes out of 17K total were fishy/failed to reach address given by the voters. That's major.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (NOIQH)
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RACIST!!
Funny voter id's? legal in WI. SAME law, unconstitutionally biased in NC.
Obama judges are going to be hard to get rid of.
Funny voter id's? legal in WI. SAME law, unconstitutionally biased in NC.
Obama judges are going to be hard to get rid of.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (NbJXF)
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10 There is literally no argument against voter ID laws that isn't pro-illegal-voting.
None. It doesn't exist.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:01 PM (xeeHA)
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There's one more, but it's racist as fuck.
None. It doesn't exist.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:01 PM (xeeHA)
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There's one more, but it's racist as fuck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
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Stop it! I've passed out six times since November 7th due to erection related blood loss.
Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (cfjq1)
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Hey! That wasn't supposed to happen!!
Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (qJhUV)
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18 Hey! That wasn't supposed to happen!!
Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (qJhUV)
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Please demand recounts in Nevada next.
We're begging you.
Posted by: Dr. Jill Stein at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (qJhUV)
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Please demand recounts in Nevada next.
We're begging you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (b0iGi)
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WooHoo. Well done MI state government. You missed the start of the party but its still going on.
Posted by: PaleRider, link to SMFH funeral expenses for Carl at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (dkExz)
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Your Voter ID Style is no match for my Reactionary DOJ.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 08, 2016 03:59 PM (UD0Gq)
They will be gone, it's your fcking judges we are worried about.
Your Voter ID Style is no match for my Reactionary DOJ.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 08, 2016 03:59 PM (UD0Gq)
They will be gone, it's your fcking judges we are worried about.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (NbJXF)
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Vote by mail fraud is the coming thing. Congress should put the squash on that idea.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QQ+il)
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But ACE! Democrats have assured me that non-white people are too stupid to get an ID!
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (6n332)
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It's preposterous we're even having this debate.
Tell that to the courts. They're the ones who keep striking down voter ID laws. Every federal judge who has ever done that should be impeached and tossed off the bench.
Tell that to the courts. They're the ones who keep striking down voter ID laws. Every federal judge who has ever done that should be impeached and tossed off the bench.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (zc3Db)
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If you can't prove who you are ON ELECTION DAY, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
At least this is a step in the right direction.
At least this is a step in the right direction.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (VQwRE)
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17
Stop it! I've passed out six times since November 7th due to erection related blood loss.
Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (cfjq1)
I'd put some ice on that
Stop it! I've passed out six times since November 7th due to erection related blood loss.
Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (cfjq1)
I'd put some ice on that
Posted by: Good Ole Bill at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (NbJXF)
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22 Vote by mail fraud is the coming thing. Congress should put the squash on that idea.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QQ+il)
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After that, we'll see a push for online voting from the same people who think Russia hacked voting machines that aren't connected to the internet.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QQ+il)
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After that, we'll see a push for online voting from the same people who think Russia hacked voting machines that aren't connected to the internet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (b0iGi)
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There's one more, but it's racist as fuck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
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Oh yeah. The evergreen "poor minorities can't figure this out" nonsense.
F#ck that sh!t walking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
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Oh yeah. The evergreen "poor minorities can't figure this out" nonsense.
F#ck that sh!t walking.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (xeeHA)
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Funny what happens when you fight these fools instead of caving every time...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (9krrF)
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Whoopsie daisies.
Posted by: Jill Stein at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (fYChk)
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There's one more, but it's racist as fuck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
Yup. The "black people can't be expected to figure out how to obtain ID or carry it with them" argument. Not pretty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (b0iGi)
Yup. The "black people can't be expected to figure out how to obtain ID or carry it with them" argument. Not pretty.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (AJeMv)
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Its preposterous that we're having the debate. Its also ridiculous that you can suddenly have car loads of ballots suddenly appear as well today. You should know how many shipments from each precinct will be arriving at the counting locations and not have a surprise suddenly appear.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (mbhDw)
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Would be a hoot if Jill's voter count for tampering produces actual vote identification laws.
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (8b+oT)
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Trump ought to tell Jill to "calm down."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (PY9jH)
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Democrats may never win another election there if they can't commit fraud.
Posted by: Servius at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (SXIn9)
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You know what? I'm all in on saying hey let's make sure votes are cast properly and counted properly and anyone who violates that should face harsh prison time.
25 to life. You KNOW if you are a registered voter or not.
25 to life. You KNOW if you are a registered voter or not.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (784ZQ)
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25 If you can't prove who you are ON ELECTION DAY, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
At least this is a step in the right direction.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (VQwRE)
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"How am I supposed to get prepared for the 2020 election now? I have to wait until the day before."
-Stupid people
At least this is a step in the right direction.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 08, 2016 04:03 PM (VQwRE)
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"How am I supposed to get prepared for the 2020 election now? I have to wait until the day before."
-Stupid people
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (b0iGi)
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The left has become so goofy, they act as de facto anti-leftist agents.
Posted by: irright at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (pMGkg)
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That this is a partisan issue in this day and time is beyond me.
Come on Alex ... you know the score. The Politics of Controlling Every Single Damned Aspect of Our Lives is too important to worry about petty little shit like vote integrity.
Ends Justify the Means, Can't Make an Omelet, and so on ...
Come on Alex ... you know the score. The Politics of Controlling Every Single Damned Aspect of Our Lives is too important to worry about petty little shit like vote integrity.
Ends Justify the Means, Can't Make an Omelet, and so on ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (RKJF2)
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And any state that issues ID to illegals should be stripped of all federal funding, post haste.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (zc3Db)
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And this doesn't even address the issues of the multitude of Detroit Ballot Box tally's not matching the actual number of ballot's.
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (hdpay)
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Yup. The "black people can't be expected to figure out how to obtain ID or carry it with them" argument. Not pretty.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (8ZskC)
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But Democrats care, so it's okay.
Yup. The "black people can't be expected to figure out how to obtain ID or carry it with them" argument. Not pretty.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (8ZskC)
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But Democrats care, so it's okay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (b0iGi)
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Said it in a previous thread. Turns out this election DID have a stalking horse candidate. It just wasn't Trump, and it wasn't for the Democrats.
Ahahaha GFY, Jill.
Ahahaha GFY, Jill.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (KUaJL)
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"Note to Michigan: You can't catch someone defrauding the vote here because they're signing a name and address that isn't their own. How you gonna track them down?"
As they say, feature, not a bug.
As they say, feature, not a bug.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2016 04:06 PM (TOk1P)
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Pennsylvania had voter ID for 1 primary before it was shut down by a judge.
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2016 04:06 PM (5sOEp)
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44 And this doesn't even address the issues of the multitude of Detroit Ballot Box tally's not matching the actual number of ballot's.
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (hdpay)
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Next thing you'll tell me is that poll workers will wear Obama shirts under an Obama mural at a polling place.
That's unpossible!
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:05 PM (hdpay)
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Next thing you'll tell me is that poll workers will wear Obama shirts under an Obama mural at a polling place.
That's unpossible!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (dELE3)
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Voter ID Laws are racist
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (Rtl0g)
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Don't sell it short for truth.
I should have known
I should have known
should have known how
I should have known
I should have known by now
but now
Everything is coming up boners
I should have known
I should have known
should have known how
I should have known
I should have known by now
but now
Everything is coming up boners
Posted by: Sporkatus at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (eXSOZ)
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I find Jill's horse shit particularly amusing, since her votes caused Hillary to lose in WI and MI.
Irony be a bitch.
Irony be a bitch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (NbJXF)
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Minority precincts hardest hit.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (etGXU)
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51 Voter ID Laws are racist
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (Rtl0g)
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"Inequality"
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (Rtl0g)
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"Inequality"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
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44 And this doesn't even address the issues of the multitude of Detroit Ballot Box tally's not matching the actual number of ballot's.
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
To ask is to answer.
Possible fraud by the poll workers themselves?
To ask is to answer.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:08 PM (784ZQ)
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It blows my mind that you have to show fingerprints to get into amusement parks, but you don't even need an ID to vote
Posted by: Simon Gruber at December 08, 2016 04:08 PM (rX06+)
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Fredo going to fly the Flag at 1/2 Mast?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (dELE3)
Of course he will. Glen was a democrat.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (dELE3)
Of course he will. Glen was a democrat.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:08 PM (NbJXF)
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53 I find Jill's horse shit particularly amusing, since her votes caused Hillary to lose in WI and MI.
Irony be a bitch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (NbJXF)
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Well, somewhere between maybe and probably, not definitely.
It's not like Jill Stein was the only candidate the Green Party could have run, or that the Green Party was the only party that would appeal to the craziest of the crazies on the left.
Irony be a bitch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (NbJXF)
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Well, somewhere between maybe and probably, not definitely.
It's not like Jill Stein was the only candidate the Green Party could have run, or that the Green Party was the only party that would appeal to the craziest of the crazies on the left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (b0iGi)
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One citizen one vote. Each eligible registered voter gets one vote nobody else gets to vote. Why in the world would it be any other way? That this is a partisan issue makes me sick to my guts. If you are not an eligible voter don't f***ing vote. If you are a registered voter vote one damn time.
Posted by: USNtakim at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (hMqvx)
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IDs are racist.
Posted by: Joe deMama at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (S4vXM)
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California was first with the Motor Voter law (registering you to vote as you got your drivers license).
THEN they made law that illegals be given drivers license, or basic ID.
That explains a lot of why CA is in the pickle it is in.
THEN they made law that illegals be given drivers license, or basic ID.
That explains a lot of why CA is in the pickle it is in.
Posted by: navybrat at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (QQ+il)
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True
Posted by: Joe Mama at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (S4vXM)
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Voter ID Laws are racist
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (Rtl0g)
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"Inequality"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
Diversity.
Because Democrats think People of Color are too stupid to get ID
What other reason do they have?
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (Rtl0g)
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"Inequality"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
Diversity.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (TOk1P)
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>>Fredo going to fly the Flag at 1/2 Mast?
Seeing as how he campaigned for Obama and Obama gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, I'm thinking yes.
Seeing as how he campaigned for Obama and Obama gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, I'm thinking yes.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (/tuJf)
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Fredo going to fly the Flag at 1/2 Mast?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (dELE3)
Of course he will. Glen was a democrat.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:08 PM (NbJXF)
He was a Marine Hero way before he was a Democrat. And he was a Democrat in time long gone
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (dELE3)
Of course he will. Glen was a democrat.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:08 PM (NbJXF)
He was a Marine Hero way before he was a Democrat. And he was a Democrat in time long gone
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (dELE3)
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I want the same 10day waiting period for good id on welfare.
Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (2RVmA)
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Jill Stein is either a Subaru drivin' kind of gurrrl, or a smug Prius driver.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (PY9jH)
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Diversity.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (TOk1P)
Yeah, all those fingers are the same color. Racist!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (TOk1P)
Yeah, all those fingers are the same color. Racist!
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (NbJXF)
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Y'all know a Federal Court will strike this down, right?
Cause if not, you haven't been paying attention.
Cause if not, you haven't been paying attention.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (s/EUv)
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53 I find Jill's horse shit particularly amusing, since her votes caused Hillary to lose in WI and MI.
Irony be a bitch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (NbJXF)
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To add: Until we eliminate 3rd parties completely, this will always happen in close races.
BTW, I do not want to eliminate 3rd parties. There always needs to be the possibility (no matter how remote) of one of the 2 being replaced.
I think if the Libertarian Party had nominated someone good instead of Gary Johnson, they could have made the first step to being the first serious 3rd party in decades (possibly since the Bull Moose Party), but because Johnson was so awful they probably didn't actually take that step.
Irony be a bitch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (NbJXF)
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To add: Until we eliminate 3rd parties completely, this will always happen in close races.
BTW, I do not want to eliminate 3rd parties. There always needs to be the possibility (no matter how remote) of one of the 2 being replaced.
I think if the Libertarian Party had nominated someone good instead of Gary Johnson, they could have made the first step to being the first serious 3rd party in decades (possibly since the Bull Moose Party), but because Johnson was so awful they probably didn't actually take that step.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (b0iGi)
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"Inequality"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
Diversity.
Diplomatic Immunity!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:07 PM (b0iGi)
Diversity.
Diplomatic Immunity!
Posted by: Arjen Rudd at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (QQ+il)
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Ya can't even enter a federal court without a photo ID.
Ya can't even fly on an airline without a photo ID.
Ya can't even rent a car without a photo ID.
Ya can't even get married without a photo ID. (That includes gay marriage)
Ya can't even buy Sudafed without a photo ID.
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Ya can't even fly on an airline without a photo ID.
Ya can't even rent a car without a photo ID.
Ya can't even get married without a photo ID. (That includes gay marriage)
Ya can't even buy Sudafed without a photo ID.
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
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There's nothing left (pun) but Democrats to vote for out here in Commiefornia so what difference does it make if the voters are illegal?
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (Fjhqj)
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>> And this doesn't even address the issues of the
>> multitude of Detroit Ballot Box tally's not matching
>> the actual number of ballot's.
There are a number of places in the country where if you took vote fraud in its various forms out of the equation the Democrats would still win locally by big numbers, but no longer big enough numbers to swing the entire state.
They seem to be losing some of their grip on those states anyway, and I really, really hope the Trump administration and the state governments take this one on while the opportunity is there.
>> multitude of Detroit Ballot Box tally's not matching
>> the actual number of ballot's.
There are a number of places in the country where if you took vote fraud in its various forms out of the equation the Democrats would still win locally by big numbers, but no longer big enough numbers to swing the entire state.
They seem to be losing some of their grip on those states anyway, and I really, really hope the Trump administration and the state governments take this one on while the opportunity is there.
Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (TppKb)
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One citizen one vote. Each eligible registered voter gets one vote nobody else gets to vote. Why in the world would it be any other way? That this is a partisan issue makes me sick to my guts. If you are not an eligible voter don't f***ing vote. If you are a registered voter vote one damn time.
Which is why I said 25 to life. You know if you are legal and registered to vote.
Which is why I said 25 to life. You know if you are legal and registered to vote.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (784ZQ)
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Michigan became a right-to-work state because the unions tried to get a ballot proposal passed amending the state constitution to require union representation in certain circumstances - can't remember the exact proposal. Anyhow, when that went down in flames the legislature passed the right-to-work statute, essentially shoving it in and breaking it off.
I certainly hope the Left continues to ignore the lessons being taught this way.
I certainly hope the Left continues to ignore the lessons being taught this way.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (hLRSq)
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"How am I supposed to get prepared for the 2020 election now? I have to wait until the day before."
-Stupid people
And they never tell you what day it is. And sometimes it's a different month too!
-Stupid people
And they never tell you what day it is. And sometimes it's a different month too!
Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8ikIW)
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And ink their fingers as well. That would end the majority of multiple voting schemes out there.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (FYrz1)
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R.I.P Mr. Glen.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (6n332)
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Jill Stein for FEC.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (MCEs2)
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69 Jill Stein is either a Subaru drivin' kind of gurrrl, or a smug Prius driver.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (PY9jH)
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Embrace the power of "and"?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:11 PM (PY9jH)
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Embrace the power of "and"?
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at December 08, 2016 04:13 PM (AJeMv)
84
I heard that giant sucking sound before anybody else.
Posted by: Ross Perot at December 08, 2016 04:13 PM (Fjhqj)
85
I'm loving all the dividends and fringe benefits so far from electing Trump as President. Can't wait until he takes office.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at December 08, 2016 04:13 PM (8wEhr)
Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (GWVcB)
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My hope was more red states would "make lemonade" with these silly recounts and use it as an opportunity to pass some common sense voter ID laws.
Once Trump gets a conservative SC seat filled, these silly judges screaming about black voters being too stupid to get an ID can get shut down and we can restore some integrity to the ballot box.
Once Trump gets a conservative SC seat filled, these silly judges screaming about black voters being too stupid to get an ID can get shut down and we can restore some integrity to the ballot box.
Posted by: Maritime at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (tcUhm)
88
Yeah, it's going to take more than Voter ID, but it's a start:
...Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper.
The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said
306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when
they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they
finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page
only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada,
how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a
locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.crider.7/posts/10208302839712897
...Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper.
The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said
306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when
they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they
finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page
only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada,
how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a
locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.crider.7/posts/10208302839712897
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NOIQH)
89
WATCH: F-35 refuels en route to Israel
The first two stealth aircraft of Israel's order, set to arrive to great pomp in the country on Monday, have their first stopover in the Azores; they will spend the weekend in Italy before coming to Israel and having Stars of David affixed to them by IDF officers.
The first two stealth aircraft of Israel's order, set to arrive to great pomp in the country on Monday, have their first stopover in the Azores; they will spend the weekend in Italy before coming to Israel and having Stars of David affixed to them by IDF officers.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (dELE3)
90
He was a Marine Hero way before he was a Democrat. And he was a Democrat in time long gone
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (dELE3)
True, BUT he served 24 years in the Senate and retired in 99, not that long ago. He was not a conservative either.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:10 PM (dELE3)
True, BUT he served 24 years in the Senate and retired in 99, not that long ago. He was not a conservative either.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
91
Still not tired of WINNING.
Posted by: Memories at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (mwcEF)
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76 There are a number of places in the country where if you took vote fraud in its various forms out of the equation the Democrats would still win locally by big numbers, but no longer big enough numbers to swing the entire state.
They seem to be losing some of their grip on those states anyway, and I really, really hope the Trump administration and the state governments take this one on while the opportunity is there.
Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (TppKb)
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The opposite of the demographic coin is the fact that it's getting harder to cheat at elections.
If the demographics shifts all stay in California while every other state tightens their ballot processes, the demographic changes simply won't matter.
And just think, all of pop culture screams that those places that voted for Trump are hives of racism. What Hispanic in California would want to move out there and help spread those votes across the nation?
They seem to be losing some of their grip on those states anyway, and I really, really hope the Trump administration and the state governments take this one on while the opportunity is there.
Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (TppKb)
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The opposite of the demographic coin is the fact that it's getting harder to cheat at elections.
If the demographics shifts all stay in California while every other state tightens their ballot processes, the demographic changes simply won't matter.
And just think, all of pop culture screams that those places that voted for Trump are hives of racism. What Hispanic in California would want to move out there and help spread those votes across the nation?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (b0iGi)
93
DisneyWorld, Grumpy.
Yeah, can't have Mickey Mouse getting smoked by a gatted-up "Dreamer" or a practitioner of the RoP...as peaceful as they are...
Yeah, can't have Mickey Mouse getting smoked by a gatted-up "Dreamer" or a practitioner of the RoP...as peaceful as they are...
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (CRotO)
94
I think we should vote by a show of hands.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (PE2bZ)
95
Be nice if Michigan Republican's took on that state's "most-expensive-in-the-nation" no-fault auto insurance law; with it's unlimited payout provisions.
For two cars, I pay the same for six months of full coverage in Ohio as people in Michigan pay for one month of minimum coverage.
For two cars, I pay the same for six months of full coverage in Ohio as people in Michigan pay for one month of minimum coverage.
Posted by: V the K at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (O7MnT)
96
Is this what winning feels like? Because its good!
Posted by: Iblis at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Jill Stein, sold to the highest bidder at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (jkmtt)
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Boy, Hitler is going to be mad when he finds out about Stein.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (6IPEM)
99
I have a feeling more laws like Michigan's will be passed.
Also I'm positive that Trump is a time traveller.
Also I'm positive that Trump is a time traveller.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (8wEhr)
100
Betcha they ALL got ID when they are at the welfare office.
Posted by: Ross Perot at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (Fjhqj)
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Ya can't even enter a federal court without a photo ID.
Ya can't even fly on an airline without a photo ID.
Ya can't even rent a car without a photo ID.
Ya can't even get married without a photo ID. (That includes gay marriage)
Ya can't even buy Sudafed without a photo ID.
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
Here in Missouri they are threatening to prevent us from using our actual, you know, state issued IDs to enter federal buildings, board planes, etc.
Because, get this, the card itself, which is tightly controlled regarding how one gets it, isn't sufficiently adequate for federal purposes.
We also have a real voter ID law. So maybe the two are not so coincidental.
Ya can't even fly on an airline without a photo ID.
Ya can't even rent a car without a photo ID.
Ya can't even get married without a photo ID. (That includes gay marriage)
Ya can't even buy Sudafed without a photo ID.
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
Here in Missouri they are threatening to prevent us from using our actual, you know, state issued IDs to enter federal buildings, board planes, etc.
Because, get this, the card itself, which is tightly controlled regarding how one gets it, isn't sufficiently adequate for federal purposes.
We also have a real voter ID law. So maybe the two are not so coincidental.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (Rtl0g)
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And this is why I praised and encouraged the recount, and wanted it to expand to more states. I feared no "oopsie Hillary won" BS. I knew this would happen if they dug deeply enough.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: washrivergal at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (CFc5L)
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True, BUT he served 24 years in the Senate and retired in 99, not that long ago. He was not a conservative either.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
Some things transcend politics.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
Some things transcend politics.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (dELE3)
106
I came, I saw, I f*cked up.
Posted by: Jill Steiner at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (vtcmf)
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47 "Note to Michigan: You can't catch someone defrauding the vote here because they're signing a name and address that isn't their own. How you gonna track them down?"
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I once bought some groceries with a credit card. I signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest to God, it happened.
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I once bought some groceries with a credit card. I signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest to God, it happened.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zke7T)
108
102 I agree with Jill Stein on one issue.
PAPER BALLOTS ONLY!!!
No voting machines.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (Rtl0g)
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I'd like a system that prevents ballot box stuffing with paper ballots, but I don't know if it's possible.
Other than that, yes. Paper ballots are probably better overall.
PAPER BALLOTS ONLY!!!
No voting machines.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM (Rtl0g)
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I'd like a system that prevents ballot box stuffing with paper ballots, but I don't know if it's possible.
Other than that, yes. Paper ballots are probably better overall.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (b0iGi)
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The opposite of the demographic coin is the fact that it's getting harder to cheat at elections.
That is a thing. Detroit has become so depopulated that even counting Hillary votes six times (as we shown to happen during the recount), there still isn't enough base population to support a sufficient fraudulent vote count.
A lot of them are heading to Atlanta, which is why DeKalb county went for Hillary by a bigger percentage than Portland Oregon's Multonomah country.
That is a thing. Detroit has become so depopulated that even counting Hillary votes six times (as we shown to happen during the recount), there still isn't enough base population to support a sufficient fraudulent vote count.
A lot of them are heading to Atlanta, which is why DeKalb county went for Hillary by a bigger percentage than Portland Oregon's Multonomah country.
Posted by: V the K at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Ross Perot at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Fjhqj)
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This is the best lame-duck period I can remember, ever. Donald Trump is effectively running the country and recharging the economy, and he isn't even in office yet. Jill Stein took enough votes away from Hillary to screw her under, and then helped create effective Voter ID laws in Michigan, and she isn't even a Republican.
Since the Greens have now dumped her, maybe Jill ought to register as GOP. Stranger things have happened...
Since the Greens have now dumped her, maybe Jill ought to register as GOP. Stranger things have happened...
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (iIzG7)
112
darn sock
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2016 04:18 PM (Fjhqj)
113
The ironic thing was that voting machines were supposed to reduce fraud.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2016 04:18 PM (39g3+)
114
Turn those tanks back on!!!
Posted by: Jill Steiner at December 08, 2016 04:18 PM (vtcmf)
115
Measure EBT cards and you measure D voting.
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (Fjhqj)
116
I gave Jill Stein $7 Million dollars and all I got was stinking new Voter ID law.
Posted by: Deranged Democrats at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (hdpay)
117
That is so racist I can't even.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (U6f54)
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74 Ya can't even enter a federal court without a photo ID.
.....
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
In NYC, photo id is necessary to enter many buildings. Also, when my daughter needed an emergency procedure on her eye, I had to show photo id for the both of us before the dr would see her, even though we had just come from our own dr with a prescription/ recommendation in hand.
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Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
In NYC, photo id is necessary to enter many buildings. Also, when my daughter needed an emergency procedure on her eye, I had to show photo id for the both of us before the dr would see her, even though we had just come from our own dr with a prescription/ recommendation in hand.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (oQQwD)
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109 The opposite of the demographic coin is the fact that it's getting harder to cheat at elections.
That is a thing. Detroit has become so depopulated that even counting Hillary votes six times (as we shown to happen during the recount), there still isn't enough base population to support a sufficient fraudulent vote count.
A lot of them are heading to Atlanta, which is why DeKalb county went for Hillary by a bigger percentage than Portland Oregon's Multonomah country.
Posted by: V the K at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (O7MnT)
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At that point, what the Republican Party can, and needs to, do is to perform outreach in these burgeoning cities in conservative states. Build on the seeming goodwill that some elements of the black community are giving to Trump, and convince them to stop voting as a block.
Tall order, but within the realm of possibility.
That is a thing. Detroit has become so depopulated that even counting Hillary votes six times (as we shown to happen during the recount), there still isn't enough base population to support a sufficient fraudulent vote count.
A lot of them are heading to Atlanta, which is why DeKalb county went for Hillary by a bigger percentage than Portland Oregon's Multonomah country.
Posted by: V the K at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (O7MnT)
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At that point, what the Republican Party can, and needs to, do is to perform outreach in these burgeoning cities in conservative states. Build on the seeming goodwill that some elements of the black community are giving to Trump, and convince them to stop voting as a block.
Tall order, but within the realm of possibility.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (b0iGi)
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I got into an argument with some idiot or Democrat (BIRM), and could not get him to admit that there was no way to limit the act of voting to citizens without providing ID. He insisted that "bringing a piece of mail" should be sufficient, because Student IDs weren't enough to buy a bottle of wine or something. (The thought that the piece of mail might have been stolen out of someone's trash never crossed his mind.)
If you are going to want to limit voting to 1) citizens 2) who are still breathing 3) but not subject to loss of rights through felony conviction, but NOT require an ID, then the burden is upon you to come up with an alternative that can be used to 1) prove citizenship and residence address when registering, and 2) prove that the person actually registered at that name and address is actually the person casting the vote. At the same time, you have to explain why the very same ID that is accepted by banks, stores, government agencies, realtors, and libraries, is somehow "oppressive" when being asked to provide it to fulfill the functions required above.
If you are going to want to limit voting to 1) citizens 2) who are still breathing 3) but not subject to loss of rights through felony conviction, but NOT require an ID, then the burden is upon you to come up with an alternative that can be used to 1) prove citizenship and residence address when registering, and 2) prove that the person actually registered at that name and address is actually the person casting the vote. At the same time, you have to explain why the very same ID that is accepted by banks, stores, government agencies, realtors, and libraries, is somehow "oppressive" when being asked to provide it to fulfill the functions required above.
Posted by: Drumwaster at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (AypER)
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88 Yeah, it's going to take more than Voter ID, but it's a start:
...Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper.
The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said
306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when
they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they
finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page
only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada,
how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a
locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.crider.7/posts/10208302839712897
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NOIQH)
It's reports and stories like this and other types of Fruad that has me certain that Trump beat the average margin of fraud baked in at +5% for Hillary/Democrats.
...Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper.
The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said
306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when
they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they
finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page
only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada,
how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a
locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.crider.7/posts/10208302839712897
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NOIQH)
It's reports and stories like this and other types of Fruad that has me certain that Trump beat the average margin of fraud baked in at +5% for Hillary/Democrats.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (8wEhr)
122
I once bought some groceries with a credit card. I
signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of
my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it
back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested
and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest
to God, it happened.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zke7T)
A few months ago, I had a cashier short change me about five dollars. When I pointed out her error, she said, "Do you want your change then?"
sigh
signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of
my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it
back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested
and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest
to God, it happened.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zke7T)
A few months ago, I had a cashier short change me about five dollars. When I pointed out her error, she said, "Do you want your change then?"
sigh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (PY9jH)
123
OT - but today's print WSJ headline says Pruitt is a "climate skeptic". How can we entrust the EPA to someone who doesn't believe the Earth has a climate? Pay no attention to those clouds - obviously a virtual reality trick by PEDT.
Now that I think about it, it has been hard to breathe around here lately - with all the smelly men and their codpieces from the morning art thread.
Now that I think about it, it has been hard to breathe around here lately - with all the smelly men and their codpieces from the morning art thread.
Posted by: NY/CT Lurker at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (+g2h9)
124
Think of the Floppies!!!
Posted by: Jill Stein, sold to the highest bidder at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM
With this Schadenboner?! Ain't nuthin' been floppy for weeks!
Posted by: Jill Stein, sold to the highest bidder at December 08, 2016 04:15 PM
With this Schadenboner?! Ain't nuthin' been floppy for weeks!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (kDUMP)
125
You should know how many shipments from each precinct will be arriving at the counting locations and not have a surprise suddenly appear.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (z/Ubi)
Someone at ACORN miscalculated the number of votes they needed to deliver in order to trigger automatic recount per PA law. The 20k paper ballots they showed up with only got them to within .8 per cent, not .5 margin.
Math is hard.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:04 PM (z/Ubi)
Someone at ACORN miscalculated the number of votes they needed to deliver in order to trigger automatic recount per PA law. The 20k paper ballots they showed up with only got them to within .8 per cent, not .5 margin.
Math is hard.
Posted by: Jill Stein, sold to the highest bidder at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (jkmtt)
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116 I gave Jill Stein $7 Million dollars and all I got was stinking new Voter ID law.
Posted by: Deranged Democrats at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (hdpay)
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"Give more and we'll make sure Republicans pay for their cheating! I swear!"
-Dr. Jill Stein
Posted by: Deranged Democrats at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (hdpay)
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"Give more and we'll make sure Republicans pay for their cheating! I swear!"
-Dr. Jill Stein
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (b0iGi)
127
Look at all that cool shit people can do with a photo ID!
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
I had to show one at the local high school to get in to see the band director.
I don't know what happens if you don't have one though.
Posted by: Dang at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (8b+oT)
I had to show one at the local high school to get in to see the band director.
I don't know what happens if you don't have one though.
Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (8ikIW)
128
Same deal here in MN.
The federal real ID Act. Get a US Passport. That is a real ID for federal purposes.
Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
The federal real ID Act. Get a US Passport. That is a real ID for federal purposes.
Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (Rtl0g)
129
Jill Stein. Jill Stein to the Tower. Stat.
Posted by: Donald J. Trump at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (Fjhqj)
130
105 True, BUT he served 24 years in the Senate and retired in 99, not that long ago. He was not a conservative either.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
Some things transcend politics.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (dELE3)
Both Daniel Inouye and George McGovern served honorably and bravely during WW2. McGovern flew 35 missions over Germany in a B-24 and Inouye won the MOH after being nearly cut in half by an MG-42.
That said, their politics stank on ice.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
Some things transcend politics.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (dELE3)
Both Daniel Inouye and George McGovern served honorably and bravely during WW2. McGovern flew 35 missions over Germany in a B-24 and Inouye won the MOH after being nearly cut in half by an MG-42.
That said, their politics stank on ice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
131
And yet, the DoJ is still stopping NC's voter ID law. The newly elected quisling Dem Governor will probably not pursue it any further.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (ZO497)
132
I'd like a system that prevents ballot box stuffing with paper ballots, but I don't know if it's possible.
Other than that, yes. Paper ballots are probably better overall.
Purple inked thumbprint.
Other than that, yes. Paper ballots are probably better overall.
Purple inked thumbprint.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (784ZQ)
133
I am a jelly donut.
Posted by: Jill Steiner at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (vtcmf)
134
May God grant peace to John Glenn's family at this difficult time.
May God forgive John Glenn for trading his "no" vote on the Clinton impeachment for a joy ride on the Space Shuttle.
May God forgive John Glenn for trading his "no" vote on the Clinton impeachment for a joy ride on the Space Shuttle.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (YEelc)
135
Some things transcend politics.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (dELE3)
Perhaps you have forgotten is rabid partisanship. I haven't. He lost me years ago.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (dELE3)
Perhaps you have forgotten is rabid partisanship. I haven't. He lost me years ago.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (NbJXF)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (1G5R8)
137
132 Purple inked thumbprint.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (784ZQ)
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That doesn't help with the late night delivery of a "missing" box of ballots covered in Democratic votes.
That's the kind of situation I was thinking of.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (784ZQ)
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That doesn't help with the late night delivery of a "missing" box of ballots covered in Democratic votes.
That's the kind of situation I was thinking of.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (b0iGi)
138
I despise every single thing about John Glenn's political life, and I don't have a problem with half-staffing the flag for his funeral. Wish Trump could give the order, though. It would just look so much cleaner.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (H5rtT)
139
Jill Stein got a voter ID law in place and 6+ million dollars in additional donation money.
I think I will run for office and if I lose I will demand a recount and 6 million dollars of new donations. Buttboys don't come cheap. Good day.
I think I will run for office and if I lose I will demand a recount and 6 million dollars of new donations. Buttboys don't come cheap. Good day.
Posted by: Barney F at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (4acWK)
140
Both Daniel Inouye and George McGovern served honorably and bravely during WW2. McGovern flew 35 missions over Germany in a B-24 and Inouye won the MOH after being nearly cut in half by an MG-42.
That said, their politics stank on ice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
At least McGovern, of all people, publicly fought against BarkyCare.
That said, their politics stank on ice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
At least McGovern, of all people, publicly fought against BarkyCare.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (zc3Db)
141
and Gateway Pundit posted about Detroit, having all their counts uncountable. They say they run the same ballots through multiple times, so when the box was checked that was counted as 300, it only had 50 ballots.
I guess that only gets found out when someone demands a recount.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Photo and image recognition should not be far off, since Facebook already has it. One person, one vote ... photo recognition sounds an alarm when someone has voted in another place ... or it could use fingerprint, or both.
Mail ins would need a fingerprint or more ... or demand people show up instead of just mailing in phantom voters.
I guess that only gets found out when someone demands a recount.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Photo and image recognition should not be far off, since Facebook already has it. One person, one vote ... photo recognition sounds an alarm when someone has voted in another place ... or it could use fingerprint, or both.
Mail ins would need a fingerprint or more ... or demand people show up instead of just mailing in phantom voters.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (pS/eA)
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True, BUT he served 24 years in the Senate and retired in 99, not that long ago. He was not a conservative either.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)
So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)
143
When did colored people become people of color?
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (U6f54)
144
You can't buy alcohol or cigarettes here without someone asking for ID. I'm always having to show ID for something at least once a day. Why can't these people see that the dem party thinks they are stupid children who can't do anything and showing an ID to vote is a bridge too far.
Posted by: Abby at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (HBU7W)
145
Hoist with their own petard or recount
Hoist with their own petard or recount
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (493sH)
146
And you know, maybe the amount of fraud is less than a lot of us believe. Maybe it is minor, and we would still have lost elections by essentially the same margin.
I STILL WANT TO KNOW! I still want to have those committing the fraud and casting those ballots punished and stopped. I want to be able to say we lost the election and not have the suspicion in the back of my head that it was accomplished through cheating.
I STILL WANT TO KNOW! I still want to have those committing the fraud and casting those ballots punished and stopped. I want to be able to say we lost the election and not have the suspicion in the back of my head that it was accomplished through cheating.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (z/Ubi)
147
Who is Jill Stein?
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (1H9ox)
148
Pro Tip: Make them crawl on their hands and knees the last 10 yards.
It's funny. We laugh and laugh.
It's funny. We laugh and laugh.
Posted by: Donald J. Trump at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (Fjhqj)
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136 We'd be in a lot more trouble if the Left wasn't a collection mentally ill clowns.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (1G5R
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We'd be in a lot less trouble if the Democratic Party hadn't allowed itself to become dominated by the mentally ill clowns that should have stayed at the periphery of the party.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (1G5R
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We'd be in a lot less trouble if the Democratic Party hadn't allowed itself to become dominated by the mentally ill clowns that should have stayed at the periphery of the party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (b0iGi)
150
131
And yet, the DoJ is still stopping NC's voter ID law. The newly elected
quisling Dem Governor will probably not pursue it any further.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (ZO497)
It wasn't the DOJ, it was the damn judge. We have appealed, but the 5th circuit is rabid democrat and until we get the SC back, no since moving too fast on the appeal
And yet, the DoJ is still stopping NC's voter ID law. The newly elected
quisling Dem Governor will probably not pursue it any further.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2016 04:21 PM (ZO497)
It wasn't the DOJ, it was the damn judge. We have appealed, but the 5th circuit is rabid democrat and until we get the SC back, no since moving too fast on the appeal
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:24 PM (NbJXF)
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128 Same deal here in MN.
The federal real ID Act. Get a US Passport. That is a real ID for federal purposes.
Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (Rtl0g)
When I we t to cast my absentee ballot for the election, the county would not accept my passport, but would only accept my driver's license as id.
The federal real ID Act. Get a US Passport. That is a real ID for federal purposes.
Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:20 PM (Rtl0g)
When I we t to cast my absentee ballot for the election, the county would not accept my passport, but would only accept my driver's license as id.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 08, 2016 04:24 PM (oQQwD)
152
62 California was first with the Motor Voter law (registering you to vote as you got your drivers license).
THEN they made law that illegals be given drivers license, or basic ID.
That explains a lot of why CA is in the pickle it is in.
Posted by: navybrat at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (w7KSn)
I wonder if there's something the Trump administration can do about it, i.e. some executive order that says that until California cleans up all this loose shit and can demonstrate the integrity of their voting procedures, then no federal election results will be accepted from that state.
Let them stew on that for awhile.
THEN they made law that illegals be given drivers license, or basic ID.
That explains a lot of why CA is in the pickle it is in.
Posted by: navybrat at December 08, 2016 04:09 PM (w7KSn)
I wonder if there's something the Trump administration can do about it, i.e. some executive order that says that until California cleans up all this loose shit and can demonstrate the integrity of their voting procedures, then no federal election results will be accepted from that state.
Let them stew on that for awhile.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 08, 2016 04:24 PM (n8tHU)
Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2016 04:24 PM (8ikIW)
154
I guess that only gets found out when someone demands a recount.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (pS/eA)
They need people thrown in jail for long sentences.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (pS/eA)
They need people thrown in jail for long sentences.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (zc3Db)
155
Right, so it's too difficult for "certain people" to be able to obtain and carry a free, government-issued ID, and to bring it with them to the polls to vote.
I'll be they never leave their WIC/SNAP/EBT card at home when they need it, though.
I'll be they never leave their WIC/SNAP/EBT card at home when they need it, though.
Posted by: DocJ at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (NYS7S)
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139 Jill Stein got a voter ID law in place and 6+ million dollars in additional donation money.
I think I will run for office and if I lose I will demand a recount and 6 million dollars of new donations. Buttboys don't come cheap. Good day.
Posted by: Barney F at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (4acWK)
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Don't forget the emails of the gullible. She's going to drain them of money and waste it on pointless crusades.
It's what happened to the Tea Party in how it got squeezed of all cash.
This could be the beginning of the end of the progressive left's ability to fund anything from grassroots donors.
Fingers crossed.
I think I will run for office and if I lose I will demand a recount and 6 million dollars of new donations. Buttboys don't come cheap. Good day.
Posted by: Barney F at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (4acWK)
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Don't forget the emails of the gullible. She's going to drain them of money and waste it on pointless crusades.
It's what happened to the Tea Party in how it got squeezed of all cash.
This could be the beginning of the end of the progressive left's ability to fund anything from grassroots donors.
Fingers crossed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (b0iGi)
157
Perhaps you have forgotten is rabid partisanship. I haven't. He lost me years ago.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (NbJXF)
I remember a Marine who flew over 60 combat missions and was one of the Mercury 7.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:22 PM (NbJXF)
I remember a Marine who flew over 60 combat missions and was one of the Mercury 7.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (dELE3)
158
Is it wrong to play Space Oddity to commemorate John Glenn? Just feels like a...thing. Bowie and Glenn both dying in 2016.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (MYX5P)
159
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
,,,
Actually you're a person of ALL colors as, in the visible spectrum, white reflects light and is a presence of all colors. Black, OTOH, absorbs light and is an absence of color.
Just asking.
,,,
Actually you're a person of ALL colors as, in the visible spectrum, white reflects light and is a presence of all colors. Black, OTOH, absorbs light and is an absence of color.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (1H9ox)
160
Voter ID is only one aspect of the problem. There are also huge problems with:
- Registering ineligible people to vote. (A lot of states are basically on the honor system as far as voter verification)
- Controlling for absentee ballot fraud. (IIRC, there was a case in California with something like 800 ballots being sent in the names of 800 people to one apartment?)
- Registering ineligible people to vote. (A lot of states are basically on the honor system as far as voter verification)
- Controlling for absentee ballot fraud. (IIRC, there was a case in California with something like 800 ballots being sent in the names of 800 people to one apartment?)
Posted by: V the K at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (O7MnT)
161
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Person of Pallor.
Or in my case, Pale Penis Person.
Person of Pallor.
Or in my case, Pale Penis Person.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (QQ+il)
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Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
Posted by: rd
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Untrue in my experience.
I've been on base a few times this year without ID.
For the simple task of visiting the Chapel or going to the commissary, but I had zero problems.
Yes, it bothered me, too.
Also, if you have kids in the Military, you need a valid ID. They will not even let you on base to visit your kid in the infirmary, even if they are dying. Make sure your state ID is valid, or get a passport.
Posted by: rd
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Untrue in my experience.
I've been on base a few times this year without ID.
For the simple task of visiting the Chapel or going to the commissary, but I had zero problems.
Yes, it bothered me, too.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (3Eg8d)
163
I didn't need a effin ID to steal swisher sweets, what makes you think I needed one to vote?
Steal the vote! Power to the People!
Steal the vote! Power to the People!
Posted by: Zombie Michael Brown at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (Fjhqj)
164
I think if the Libertarian Party had nominated someone good instead of Gary Johnson, they could have made the first step to being the first serious 3rd party in decades (possibly since the Bull Moose Party), but because Johnson was so awful they probably didn't actually take that step.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The LP would have had to do more than that. Actually proposing a slate of actual libertarian policies, for a starter.
Of course how well that would have fared in this year's environment is open to debate. I think a large part of the electorate wasn't looking to slash government so long as redirect it in their favor; I have a sneaking, sinking suspicion we'd be talking about Pres. HRC as a result, with all the catastrophes that would entail. But we'll never know for sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The LP would have had to do more than that. Actually proposing a slate of actual libertarian policies, for a starter.
Of course how well that would have fared in this year's environment is open to debate. I think a large part of the electorate wasn't looking to slash government so long as redirect it in their favor; I have a sneaking, sinking suspicion we'd be talking about Pres. HRC as a result, with all the catastrophes that would entail. But we'll never know for sure.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (9krrF)
165
I think I pissed my sister off last night on FB.
She posted that she was at the DMV and was miserable.
Her: I'm at the DMV and boy, am I MISERABLE! *tons of emoticons*
Me: You can't renew online?
Her: NO!...I lost it...
Me: Oh. Here ya go:
http://tinypic.com/m/jp93wk/1
No response as of yet, and it's been over 19 hours...
I'm worried.
Tee hee.
She posted that she was at the DMV and was miserable.
Her: I'm at the DMV and boy, am I MISERABLE! *tons of emoticons*
Me: You can't renew online?
Her: NO!...I lost it...
Me: Oh. Here ya go:
http://tinypic.com/m/jp93wk/1
No response as of yet, and it's been over 19 hours...
I'm worried.
Tee hee.
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:27 PM (CRotO)
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141 and Gateway Pundit posted about Detroit, having all their counts uncountable. They say they run the same ballots through multiple times, so when the box was checked that was counted as 300, it only had 50 ballots.
I guess that only gets found out when someone demands a recount.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (pS/eA)
I love the Clerks explanation, after being exposed, that..um...85 scanners broke down...um, that's right...because there old.
[public]:Why wasn't this brought up on election day?
[Clerk]: "Shut up you racist!"
I guess that only gets found out when someone demands a recount.
So they need more than voter ID, they need watchers, and security cameras, and locks ... and bagels.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (pS/eA)
I love the Clerks explanation, after being exposed, that..um...85 scanners broke down...um, that's right...because there old.
[public]:Why wasn't this brought up on election day?
[Clerk]: "Shut up you racist!"
Posted by: Deranged Democrats at December 08, 2016 04:27 PM (hdpay)
167
So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero
without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more
normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)
Hey, I have a newspaper in my attic from the day after he landed, so I don't need a lecture. He became a partisan hack, sorry. He lost his shine when he lost his shine.
He was a great man, he turned into a flack. I'll remember the Glen on the cover of the Journal American, not the Senator.
without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more
normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)
Hey, I have a newspaper in my attic from the day after he landed, so I don't need a lecture. He became a partisan hack, sorry. He lost his shine when he lost his shine.
He was a great man, he turned into a flack. I'll remember the Glen on the cover of the Journal American, not the Senator.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 08, 2016 04:27 PM (NbJXF)
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122 I once bought some groceries with a credit card. I
signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of
my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it
back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested
and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest
to God, it happened.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zke7T)
A few months ago, I had a cashier short change me about five dollars. When I pointed out her error, she said, "Do you want your change then?"
sigh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (PY9jH)
---
"Oh, I thought you were tipping me! I was so totes not robbing you!"
signed the receipt and handed it to the girl, and looking at the back of
my credit card she said, "You haven't signed this." So she handed it
back and asked me to sign the card, too. I shrugged and did as requested
and handed it back to her. And she compared the two signatures. Honest
to God, it happened.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zke7T)
A few months ago, I had a cashier short change me about five dollars. When I pointed out her error, she said, "Do you want your change then?"
sigh
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2016 04:19 PM (PY9jH)
---
"Oh, I thought you were tipping me! I was so totes not robbing you!"
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at December 08, 2016 04:27 PM (zke7T)
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>>>So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)
Winner winner chicken dinner.
RIP John Glenn. Godspeed
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Interrupts Its Silliness to Mourn John Glenn at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)
Winner winner chicken dinner.
RIP John Glenn. Godspeed
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:27 PM (J73Jf)
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Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (3Eg8d)
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Ft Hood used to be like that...
Used to be.
---
Ft Hood used to be like that...
Used to be.
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:28 PM (CRotO)
171
Hilarious. At this rate I'll need me some of those Glenville pantaloons.
Posted by: DanMan at December 08, 2016 04:28 PM (RusNE)
172
Diplomatic Immunity!
Posted by: Arjen Rudd at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (QQ+il)
Bang!
It's just been revoked!
Posted by: Arjen Rudd at December 08, 2016 04:12 PM (QQ+il)
Bang!
It's just been revoked!
Posted by: Murtaugh at December 08, 2016 04:28 PM (kKHcp)
173
The Mercury heat shield was made by Cincinnati Testing Laboratories, a subsidiary of a firm I've done a lot of business with. The head of the company related how things went down on Glenn's big day.
After a couple months of 24/7's, everybody was finally done, so he took his family to a little resort motel in Florida. At the swimming pool, a waiter brought out the phone on a serving tray, and on the other end was the guy telling how the straps might or might not hold. "I must have looked like the most foolish man in the world, standing there, dripping wet in my swim trunks, holding a phone and looking up at the sky."
And John Glenn came back from orbit...behind a Studebaker.
After a couple months of 24/7's, everybody was finally done, so he took his family to a little resort motel in Florida. At the swimming pool, a waiter brought out the phone on a serving tray, and on the other end was the guy telling how the straps might or might not hold. "I must have looked like the most foolish man in the world, standing there, dripping wet in my swim trunks, holding a phone and looking up at the sky."
And John Glenn came back from orbit...behind a Studebaker.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 08, 2016 04:28 PM (H5rtT)
174
Here it is - Clark county, NV had major vote fraud:
Vaughan brought into the NEWSMAXTV Las Vegas studio and laid it out for
all to see, US postal service certified returned mail from 9,200 voters
in District 15. Many of the people who were listed as deceased are still
on the active voter rolls today. Many of the returned mail came back
with 5 people living in a vacant lot with no mail receptacle....
A total number of 17,086 votes were cast in District 15 for both
Republican and Democrat candidates. 9,200 voters on the voter rolls who,
by law, should not be on the voter rolls is a huge discrepancy.
Hillary won Nevada by 27,000 votes.
http://www.newsmaxtv.vegas/huuuge-nevada-voter-fraud-uncovered-worse-than-acorn/
Vaughan brought into the NEWSMAXTV Las Vegas studio and laid it out for
all to see, US postal service certified returned mail from 9,200 voters
in District 15. Many of the people who were listed as deceased are still
on the active voter rolls today. Many of the returned mail came back
with 5 people living in a vacant lot with no mail receptacle....
A total number of 17,086 votes were cast in District 15 for both
Republican and Democrat candidates. 9,200 voters on the voter rolls who,
by law, should not be on the voter rolls is a huge discrepancy.
Hillary won Nevada by 27,000 votes.
http://www.newsmaxtv.vegas/huuuge-nevada-voter-fraud-uncovered-worse-than-acorn/
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:29 PM (NOIQH)
175
Untrue in my experience.
I've been on base a few times this year without ID.
For the simple task of visiting the Chapel or going to the commissary, but I had zero problems.
Yes, it bothered me, too.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu
Once upon a time, when my folks worked on base, I would have need to go on base myself (often to deliver something or pick someone up). Seldom was my ID checked, they'd look at the sticker and wave me through. (Fun fact, the "civilian DoD" blue faded into "officer" green over time. They salute the sticker, not the person.)
This was different on occasion, during Desert Storm and after 9/11 for a while for example, but by and large not the most terribly rigorous security.
I've been on base a few times this year without ID.
For the simple task of visiting the Chapel or going to the commissary, but I had zero problems.
Yes, it bothered me, too.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu
Once upon a time, when my folks worked on base, I would have need to go on base myself (often to deliver something or pick someone up). Seldom was my ID checked, they'd look at the sticker and wave me through. (Fun fact, the "civilian DoD" blue faded into "officer" green over time. They salute the sticker, not the person.)
This was different on occasion, during Desert Storm and after 9/11 for a while for example, but by and large not the most terribly rigorous security.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:29 PM (9krrF)
176
So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
,,,
I'll let you know when John McCain croaks.
,,,
I'll let you know when John McCain croaks.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)
177
I know John Glenn was a DUMocrat But he was a Hero to this former kid who loved watching NASA rockets & My Dad God Rest His Soul Tracked them for Defense Dept.
https://tinyurl.com/gmr3u7u David Bowie Space Oddity
https://tinyurl.com/kqo39m2 Peter Schilling Major Tom
https://tinyurl.com/gmr3u7u David Bowie Space Oddity
https://tinyurl.com/kqo39m2 Peter Schilling Major Tom
Posted by: Evilpens at December 08, 2016 04:29 PM (y3aQB)
178
So what? Cannot we not mourn the passing of a hero without having to make it all about politics? It tends to turn off more normal people than you can imagine. We are better than that.
When politics doesn't intrude into everything ... then I'll give less weight to someone's politics.
Until then ... nope. One's Military Service does not offset their desire to fuck me via politics.
You mourn all you want. Not me.
When politics doesn't intrude into everything ... then I'll give less weight to someone's politics.
Until then ... nope. One's Military Service does not offset their desire to fuck me via politics.
You mourn all you want. Not me.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:29 PM (RKJF2)
179
Ewww.
*takes a flamethrower to the roaches scurrying about*
They really hate sunlight, don't they?
*takes a flamethrower to the roaches scurrying about*
They really hate sunlight, don't they?
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:31 PM (CRotO)
180
That doesn't help with the late night delivery of a "missing" box of ballots covered in Democratic votes.
That's the kind of situation I was thinking of.
When those fingerprints don't go back to live people, they don't get counted. And any prints pulled off of the paper, those people get charged with fraud.
Again, 25 to life. The way to stop that shit is to make it hurt.
That's the kind of situation I was thinking of.
When those fingerprints don't go back to live people, they don't get counted. And any prints pulled off of the paper, those people get charged with fraud.
Again, 25 to life. The way to stop that shit is to make it hurt.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:32 PM (784ZQ)
181
143 When did colored people become people of color?
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
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Meh.
I have had friends, neighbors, coworkers and even lovers "of color" and not one ever used that stupid terminology.
If it ever came up, they were black. I can't remember one instance where "black" was taken as a slur.
Most black people are sane. You only hear from the crazy people.
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
----------------
Meh.
I have had friends, neighbors, coworkers and even lovers "of color" and not one ever used that stupid terminology.
If it ever came up, they were black. I can't remember one instance where "black" was taken as a slur.
Most black people are sane. You only hear from the crazy people.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Eg8d)
182
Lou Dobbs: Investigators are now, as I said to you at the outset, 99% sure that as many as five foreign intelligence agencies were able to hack into the Clinton email server.
Oh yeah, Huma had 650,000 emails on her computer that known pedophile Anthony Weiner had either access to or had those emails on his computer.
Cannot wait for Trump and his administration to get into office so the DOJ will stop blocking investigations using threats and other string arm tactics.
Lou Dobbs: Investigators are now, as I said to you at the outset, 99% sure that as many as five foreign intelligence agencies were able to hack into the Clinton email server.
Oh yeah, Huma had 650,000 emails on her computer that known pedophile Anthony Weiner had either access to or had those emails on his computer.
Cannot wait for Trump and his administration to get into office so the DOJ will stop blocking investigations using threats and other string arm tactics.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at December 08, 2016 04:32 PM (8wEhr)
183
Still not tired of winning FYI
Posted by: Lurker Primus at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (RYQAM)
184
Don't forget the emails of the gullible. She's going to drain them of money
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (b0iGi)
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Good idea. The more money the better. I knew I could make it in DC!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:25 PM (b0iGi)
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Good idea. The more money the better. I knew I could make it in DC!
Posted by: Barney F at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (4acWK)
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should be combined with Gateway Pundit's series on Michigan voter fraud.
sealed ballot boxes being found to have 50 ballots in them when maked as having 306 votes.
I've always thought Michigan was prime donk Voter Fraud state as they magically gain nearly 1.8 million dnc votes during election cycle verse off years.
sealed ballot boxes being found to have 50 ballots in them when maked as having 306 votes.
I've always thought Michigan was prime donk Voter Fraud state as they magically gain nearly 1.8 million dnc votes during election cycle verse off years.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (Lu7X4)
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If only we had an inherent advantage in a state like Michigan...something like our candidate being the son of a governor from there or something...then we could have really blown this race open.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (1H9ox)
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If only we had an inherent advantage in a state like Michigan...something like our candidate being the son of a governor from there or something...then we could have really blown this race open.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (1H9ox)
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You know who this helps?....
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (1H9ox)
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You know who this helps?....
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:35 PM (xeeHA)
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I wouldn't even have recalled what political party John Glenn belonged to-only that he was a Veteran and a Flyer and that he was involved in space missions which is how I want to think of him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:35 PM (tOcW/)
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...something like our candidate being the son of a governor from there or something...
Mocking Mittens never gets old ...
Mocking Mittens never gets old ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:35 PM (RKJF2)
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The moon is a hoax. Fake News.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at December 08, 2016 04:35 PM (8wEhr)
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Pretty sure Chesty Puller will want to have a few words with Glenn at the Pearly Gates.
Hope St. Peter stays the fuck outta Chesty's way...
Hope St. Peter stays the fuck outta Chesty's way...
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:35 PM (CRotO)
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this has different incidents on video ... women poll workers making sure men don't make the election go the wrong way, I suppose. Womyn power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMq-pWYBNJc
We fight wars over liberty ... these women should go to prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMq-pWYBNJc
We fight wars over liberty ... these women should go to prison.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2016 04:37 PM (pS/eA)
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Sad to hear of the passing of John Glenn.
I read Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff many years ago, and it remains one of the best nonfiction books I've ever read.
Those guys had off-the-charts courage.
I read Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff many years ago, and it remains one of the best nonfiction books I've ever read.
Those guys had off-the-charts courage.
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at December 08, 2016 04:37 PM (rft/I)
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181 143 When did colored people become people of color?
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
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Meh.
I have had friends, neighbors, coworkers and even lovers "of color" and not one ever used that stupid terminology.
If it ever came up, they were black. I can't remember one instance where "black" was taken as a slur.
Most black people are sane. You only hear from the crazy people.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Eg8d)
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I'm more of a cafe au lait.
Only time Carl liked cream in his coffee.
Why is it so politically correct to say one and not the other?
If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?
Just asking.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
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Meh.
I have had friends, neighbors, coworkers and even lovers "of color" and not one ever used that stupid terminology.
If it ever came up, they were black. I can't remember one instance where "black" was taken as a slur.
Most black people are sane. You only hear from the crazy people.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Eg8d)
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I'm more of a cafe au lait.
Only time Carl liked cream in his coffee.
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:37 PM (CRotO)
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Ft Hood used to be like that...
Used to be.
Posted by: SMFH
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After we had a truck driver get on NOB a while back, they tightened up, but it didn't last. Sad.
(By the way it's still 47° here
)
Ft Hood used to be like that...
Used to be.
Posted by: SMFH
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After we had a truck driver get on NOB a while back, they tightened up, but it didn't last. Sad.
(By the way it's still 47° here
)Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:37 PM (3Eg8d)
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If only we had an inherent advantage in a state like Michigan...something like our candidate being the son of a governor from there or something...then we could have really blown this race open.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (1H9ox)
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no...we couldn't do that...that would only drive moderates from the GOP and to embrace pol pot style death squads. The GOP must never embrace its values.
Posted by: ajmojo at December 08, 2016 04:33 PM (1H9ox)
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no...we couldn't do that...that would only drive moderates from the GOP and to embrace pol pot style death squads. The GOP must never embrace its values.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at December 08, 2016 04:37 PM (Lu7X4)
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So ... do we still get to make fun of Jimmy Carter ? Because he had a pretty nice naval career.
You know ... before he turned into one of the shittiest Presidents ever.
You know ... before he turned into one of the shittiest Presidents ever.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (RKJF2)
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The LP would have had to do more than that. Actually proposing a slate of actual libertarian policies, for a starter.
Of course how well that would have fared in this year's environment is open to debate. I think a large part of the electorate wasn't looking to slash government so long as redirect it in their favor; I have a sneaking, sinking suspicion we'd be talking about Pres. HRC as a result, with all the catastrophes that would entail. But we'll never know for sure.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (9krrF)
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You're right, of course, but I think that with generic Libertarian Man as candidate, they would have done better, just as a safe protest vote where people who found both Trump and Hillary unacceptable could go. Instead they just had crazy people.
A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
Of course how well that would have fared in this year's environment is open to debate. I think a large part of the electorate wasn't looking to slash government so long as redirect it in their favor; I have a sneaking, sinking suspicion we'd be talking about Pres. HRC as a result, with all the catastrophes that would entail. But we'll never know for sure.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:26 PM (9krrF)
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You're right, of course, but I think that with generic Libertarian Man as candidate, they would have done better, just as a safe protest vote where people who found both Trump and Hillary unacceptable could go. Instead they just had crazy people.
A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (b0iGi)
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So ... do we still get to make fun of Jimmy Carter ? Because he had a pretty nice naval career.
You know ... before he turned into one of the shittiest Presidents ever.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (RKJF2)
Your not seriously comparing Carter's short and mundane at best Military career with Glenn's are you?
You know ... before he turned into one of the shittiest Presidents ever.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (RKJF2)
Your not seriously comparing Carter's short and mundane at best Military career with Glenn's are you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:39 PM (dELE3)
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A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (b0iGi)
Really, reflect on how shitty a candidate Gary Johnson was.
It staggers the mind.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:38 PM (b0iGi)
Really, reflect on how shitty a candidate Gary Johnson was.
It staggers the mind.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:40 PM (xeeHA)
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:40 PM (CRotO)
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The longer term problem I currently see is a growing theme amongst the left that, obviously, our system is outdated and can't handle the challenges of the modern era and all we need is a few more States and the Art V can change it all
Rather than change their own party power structure and the way candidates are selected
Normal but more insistent somehow
Rather than change their own party power structure and the way candidates are selected
Normal but more insistent somehow
Posted by: Bigbys Preening Fingers at December 08, 2016 04:41 PM (Tdadx)
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200 A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
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Fuck that libertarian shit.
My platform will be to kill them all and let God sort them out.
And improving the literacy of this dumb-ass country.
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Fuck that libertarian shit.
My platform will be to kill them all and let God sort them out.
And improving the literacy of this dumb-ass country.
Posted by: Maddog 2020 at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (CRotO)
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Your not seriously comparing Carter's short and mundane at best Military career with Glenn's are you?
I'm making the point that an Outstanding Military Record doesn't negate an Incredibly Shitty Political Record.
It is possible for one's Military Contributions to be cancelled out ... or even over-shadowed ... by one's Political Misdeeds.
I'm making the point that an Outstanding Military Record doesn't negate an Incredibly Shitty Political Record.
It is possible for one's Military Contributions to be cancelled out ... or even over-shadowed ... by one's Political Misdeeds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (RKJF2)
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Not to denigrate the courage required to sit on top of an ICBM but, weren't the Mercury 7 astronauts basically monkeys in a can? Did they actually do anything besides not die during their flights?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (QQ+il)
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WI Recount Update:
82% complete, Clinton has eaten into Trump's 22,177 vote lead by......61 votes.
82% complete, Clinton has eaten into Trump's 22,177 vote lead by......61 votes.
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (hdpay)
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Sigh.
Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
I'm working on something that has six counts. I'm proofreading it and the following has happened so far:
Count One, Two, Two, Three, Four, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, Four, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, IV, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
I really need to start drinking at work.
Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
I'm working on something that has six counts. I'm proofreading it and the following has happened so far:
Count One, Two, Two, Three, Four, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, Four, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, IV, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
I really need to start drinking at work.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (mf5HN)
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A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
That's going to depend on a lot, but that's not impossible. But I suspect libertarianism won't really catch on until people quit expecting government to do what they want and go back to handling things themselves. That's going to take a while. It's worth working towards, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
That's going to depend on a lot, but that's not impossible. But I suspect libertarianism won't really catch on until people quit expecting government to do what they want and go back to handling things themselves. That's going to take a while. It's worth working towards, though.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (9krrF)
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I'm making the point that an Outstanding Military Record doesn't negate an Incredibly Shitty Political Record.
It is possible for one's Military Contributions to be cancelled out ... or even over-shadowed ... by one's Political Misdeeds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (RKJF2)
For his service in 149 combat missions in two wars, he received numerous honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (six occasions) and the Air Medal with eighteen award stars
It is possible for one's Military Contributions to be cancelled out ... or even over-shadowed ... by one's Political Misdeeds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (RKJF2)
For his service in 149 combat missions in two wars, he received numerous honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (six occasions) and the Air Medal with eighteen award stars
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (dELE3)
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Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (mf5HN)
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What's even better?
Drinking in class.
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What's even better?
Drinking in class.
Posted by: Maddog 2020 at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (CRotO)
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207 Sigh.
Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
I'm working on something that has six counts. I'm proofreading it and the following has happened so far:
Count One, Two, Two, Three, Four, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, Four, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, IV, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
I really need to start drinking at work.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (mf5HN)
So that goes into the "pro" category.
Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
I'm working on something that has six counts. I'm proofreading it and the following has happened so far:
Count One, Two, Two, Three, Four, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, Four, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
Count One, Two, Three, IV, Six, Five. Dammit.
*fix*
I really need to start drinking at work.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (mf5HN)
So that goes into the "pro" category.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (z/Ubi)
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Got some small people in here.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (J73Jf)
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Off hilarious sock
Posted by: SMFH - Silence the Queefs at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (CRotO)
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I really need to start drinking at work.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr
Just say the squirrels hacked you...
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr
Just say the squirrels hacked you...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (NOIQH)
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"Note to Michigan: You can't catch someone defrauding the vote here because they're signing a name and address that isn't their own. How you gonna track them down?"
As they say, feature, not a bug.
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True that!
As they say, feature, not a bug.
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True that!
Posted by: Detorit and Wayne County Election Officials at December 08, 2016 04:45 PM (nFg65)
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At least McGovern, of all people, publicly fought against BarkyCare.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (zc3Db)
I've read that when McGovern left politics and became a small businessman, he discovered that policies he espoused were fvking him over while running his business. He has re-thought some of his Leftist ideology.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 08, 2016 04:23 PM (zc3Db)
I've read that when McGovern left politics and became a small businessman, he discovered that policies he espoused were fvking him over while running his business. He has re-thought some of his Leftist ideology.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (xeeHA)
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Really, reflect on how shitty a candidate Gary Johnson was.
It staggers the mind.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:40 PM (xeeHA)
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Oh, my God, he was awful.
But the worst part is he probably reflects the views of the Libertarian Party establishment (which I'm pretty sure is actually a thing) more than anyone else.
That platform boils down to:
50%: Weed
25%: Unlimited Immigration
25%: Republicans are icky and Democrats are pretty cool
It staggers the mind.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:40 PM (xeeHA)
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Oh, my God, he was awful.
But the worst part is he probably reflects the views of the Libertarian Party establishment (which I'm pretty sure is actually a thing) more than anyone else.
That platform boils down to:
50%: Weed
25%: Unlimited Immigration
25%: Republicans are icky and Democrats are pretty cool
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (b0iGi)
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Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
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But have you left the ceiling rats behind?
If you did, that is a plus.
Horde, here is how my day is going. Mind you, this is all after being stuck in court for four hours this morning.
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But have you left the ceiling rats behind?
If you did, that is a plus.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (nFg65)
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201 Fortunately, I have central heat, so it's all good.
How's Tucker doing?
Posted by: SMFH
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Spoiled rotten, natch.
And a little too full of himself since he now has a necktie to wear & look distinguished.
How's Tucker doing?
Posted by: SMFH
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Spoiled rotten, natch.
And a little too full of himself since he now has a necktie to wear & look distinguished.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (3Eg8d)
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Sploooooge!
Posted by: Guy Who Can't Stop Splooging at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (m3iiU)
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>>For his service in 149 combat missions in two wars, he received numerous honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (six occasions) and the Air Medal with eighteen award stars
I can't believe anyone would deny that he had a stellar military career followed by a an equally impressive career with NASA.
But his political career was a disaster bordering on treasonous with the Thompson-Glenn hearings into the Chinese government's funneling money into the Democrat Party and Clinton/Gore in particular.
I absolutely honor his service, just as I do with his fellow Keating 5 member, John McCain, but as a politician I have nothing but disdain for his record.
I can't believe anyone would deny that he had a stellar military career followed by a an equally impressive career with NASA.
But his political career was a disaster bordering on treasonous with the Thompson-Glenn hearings into the Chinese government's funneling money into the Democrat Party and Clinton/Gore in particular.
I absolutely honor his service, just as I do with his fellow Keating 5 member, John McCain, but as a politician I have nothing but disdain for his record.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (/tuJf)
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Instead they just had crazy people.
A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
This was the year of "close the fucking border!"
Having open borders as a platform plank (3.4)
was not a way to win friends & influence people.
A more libertarian platform could come in 2020.
This was the year of "close the fucking border!"
Having open borders as a platform plank (3.4)
was not a way to win friends & influence people.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (784ZQ)
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (r/0kC)
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>>>Do they not understand how confused black people will be about this?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (8ZskC)
Nice sock!
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 08, 2016 04:02 PM (8ZskC)
Nice sock!
Posted by: m at December 08, 2016 04:47 PM (3jGss)
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Got some small people in here.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (J73Jf)
HEY!
Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name.
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:44 PM (J73Jf)
HEY!
Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name.
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
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That platform boils down to:
50%: Weed
25%: Unlimited Immigration
25%: Republicans are icky and Democrats are pretty cool
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (b0iGi)
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For sure. But man. I just can't imagine BEING him. You know? Like, how do you look at yourself in the mirror and not laugh-cry hysterically? He was like the Kosmo Kramer of political candidates.
That platform boils down to:
50%: Weed
25%: Unlimited Immigration
25%: Republicans are icky and Democrats are pretty cool
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (b0iGi)
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For sure. But man. I just can't imagine BEING him. You know? Like, how do you look at yourself in the mirror and not laugh-cry hysterically? He was like the Kosmo Kramer of political candidates.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (xeeHA)
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205 Not to denigrate the courage required to sit on top of an ICBM but, weren't the Mercury 7 astronauts basically monkeys in a can? Did they actually do anything besides not die during their flights?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (QQ+il)
They theoretically could have left everything up to the sequencer, but yes, they had full attitude control and could override systems (like Glenn being told to keep the retro pack on for reentry). They were also doing what now seem to be really primitive experiments, but were at the time revolutionary: What can I see? If someone shoots a flare from a ship, is it visible? Can I swallow food up here?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 08, 2016 04:42 PM (QQ+il)
They theoretically could have left everything up to the sequencer, but yes, they had full attitude control and could override systems (like Glenn being told to keep the retro pack on for reentry). They were also doing what now seem to be really primitive experiments, but were at the time revolutionary: What can I see? If someone shoots a flare from a ship, is it visible? Can I swallow food up here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (8nWyX)
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Something, something, we're disenfranchising the poor, poor citizen voters who have no problem presenting ID if EBT funding falls into question.
Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (hOptz)
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (LAe3v)
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208 That's going to depend on a lot, but that's not impossible. But I suspect libertarianism won't really catch on until people quit expecting government to do what they want and go back to handling things themselves. That's going to take a while. It's worth working towards, though.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (9krrF)
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That's definitely true. Politics downstream from culture sort of thing.
However, if the LP had managed to hit 5%, then ballot access in 2020 goes away as an issue to them and they could have spent more time and money on actual voter outreach.
I'm not saying that they could have played in 2020, but they could been an unquestionable spoiler in a state like New Hampshire and taking a handful of electoral votes. Then build off of that in 2024.
But, if they're happy screaming at clouds, good for them.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at December 08, 2016 04:43 PM (9krrF)
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That's definitely true. Politics downstream from culture sort of thing.
However, if the LP had managed to hit 5%, then ballot access in 2020 goes away as an issue to them and they could have spent more time and money on actual voter outreach.
I'm not saying that they could have played in 2020, but they could been an unquestionable spoiler in a state like New Hampshire and taking a handful of electoral votes. Then build off of that in 2024.
But, if they're happy screaming at clouds, good for them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (b0iGi)
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But have you left the ceiling rats behind?
If you did, that is a plus.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (nFg65)
There are two tree rats sitting in the tree outside my window just staring at me. Stupid tree rats.
If you did, that is a plus.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 08, 2016 04:46 PM (nFg65)
There are two tree rats sitting in the tree outside my window just staring at me. Stupid tree rats.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (mf5HN)
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>>>Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name.
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
It's time to start drinking at work!!
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
It's time to start drinking at work!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (J73Jf)
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Not to denigrate the courage required to sit on top of an ICBM but, weren't the Mercury 7 astronauts basically monkeys in a can? Did they actually do anything besides not die during their flights?
1. Take protein pill
2. Put helmet on
1. Take protein pill
2. Put helmet on
Posted by: Maj. Tom at December 08, 2016 04:50 PM (8ZskC)
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3. Sit in tin can. Far above the world.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:50 PM (xeeHA)
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Trump and state legislators better get moving on voter laws/fraud because the Dem's are going redouble their fraud efforts to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (hdpay)
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They were also doing what now seem to be really primitive experiments,
but were at the time revolutionary: What can I see? If someone shoots a
flare from a ship, is it visible? Can I swallow food up here?
Also, the whole "how do I, err, eliminate" thing. As we found out with Alan Shepherd.
Protip: avoid the coffee before they shoot you into space.
but were at the time revolutionary: What can I see? If someone shoots a
flare from a ship, is it visible? Can I swallow food up here?
Also, the whole "how do I, err, eliminate" thing. As we found out with Alan Shepherd.
Protip: avoid the coffee before they shoot you into space.
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (LAe3v)
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Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (C9pBZ)
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So apparently POTUS' response to the death of John Glenn:
"I have lost a friend." Because it's all about him, and the all important I.
Gah Trump Inauguration day CANNOT come soon enough!
"I have lost a friend." Because it's all about him, and the all important I.
Gah Trump Inauguration day CANNOT come soon enough!
Posted by: LizLem at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (hvf9s)
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Trump and state legislators better get moving on voter laws/fraud because the Dem's are going redouble their fraud efforts to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (hdpay)
If the GOP taking Wisconsin shocked me, I can't imagine how they felt. Saggy and limp, I assume.
Posted by: WisRich at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (hdpay)
If the GOP taking Wisconsin shocked me, I can't imagine how they felt. Saggy and limp, I assume.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (xeeHA)
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I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
Time to declare victory and walk away?
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
Time to declare victory and walk away?
Posted by: Brian Williams at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (yL25O)
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Next up: Jill Stein selfie on the pot.
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (2WITp)
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For his service in 149 combat missions in two wars, he received numerous honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (six occasions) and the Air Medal with eighteen award stars
And he voted against the Balanced Budget Ammendment, no on Educational Savings Accounts, no on school vouchers, yes on money to the IMF, yes on pres fast track, no on missile defense, and a slew of others sad-assed positions contrary to my best interests.
Great pilot. Shitty senator. No hero of mine.
Sometimes War Heroes should just stop while they're ahead.
And he voted against the Balanced Budget Ammendment, no on Educational Savings Accounts, no on school vouchers, yes on money to the IMF, yes on pres fast track, no on missile defense, and a slew of others sad-assed positions contrary to my best interests.
Great pilot. Shitty senator. No hero of mine.
Sometimes War Heroes should just stop while they're ahead.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (RKJF2)
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derp sock.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (yL25O)
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239 Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
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Can we ask them to spell out specific actions that will turn America into Naziland Part II? Or do we just hear vague nothings?
Is that unreasonable?
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
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Can we ask them to spell out specific actions that will turn America into Naziland Part II? Or do we just hear vague nothings?
Is that unreasonable?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (b0iGi)
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Sometimes War Heroes should just stop while they're ahead.
Posted by: ScoggDog
That's crazy talk.
Posted by: ScoggDog
That's crazy talk.
Posted by: Sen. John McCain at December 08, 2016 04:53 PM (LAe3v)
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Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
And luxurious pure gold, not gold plate.
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
And luxurious pure gold, not gold plate.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 08, 2016 04:53 PM (8ZskC)
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Can we ask them to spell out specific actions that will turn America into Naziland Part II? Or do we just hear vague nothings?
Is that unreasonable?
That's just the kind of thing a Nazi would say.
Is that unreasonable?
That's just the kind of thing a Nazi would say.
Posted by: pep at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (LAe3v)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 08, 2016 04:17 PM (b0iGi)
Simple, but you need honest election judges. IOW Both Parties, or all three or four parties need to participate 100%.
The ballots all come out with unique sequential numbers on them in packs of about 100.
Each ballot gets signed or initialed by both Dem and GOP judges. They check that the number on the ballot is valid and in sequence. After each pack is signed, the ballots are shuffled and randomized, before handing them to the voters.
Spoiled ballot? Oops I voted wrong, too many? The ballot gets a YUGE red X on it and is signed by two judges, one from each party. Give them a new ballot.
Need more ballots? Open a new pack and get the judges signing them.
Left over blank ballots? After the polls close and everyone voted, the judges dip the unused ballots into a bucket of ink to spoil them. Make sure the sequence number and the judges signatures are still visible.
Count the ballots. Stack them up, put a cover sheet on it, a board underneath it, then drive two nails through the stack and have the judges circle the nails, and sign and date the cover sheet. Use multiple stacks as necessary, with #1 of 27, etc., on the cover sheet.
The number of valid votes should be equal or less than the number of signatures in the polling books. Lock the stacks and the books in a box, seal it, and have the judges sign the seals. Trasport to the central station by multiple judges from multiple parties. Lock everything in a secure room for 90 days, with video monitoring.
Only let the door be opened in the presence of multiple judges for recounting. After 90 days, perform an audit of a sample of the ballots. Check that the voter actually voted, was a valid voter, the votes and voter roll matched, the votes tallied match a recount.
I am sure someone can improve my idea.
The problem is polling stations in Philadelphia kicking the GOP judges and poll watchers out.
Simple, but you need honest election judges. IOW Both Parties, or all three or four parties need to participate 100%.
The ballots all come out with unique sequential numbers on them in packs of about 100.
Each ballot gets signed or initialed by both Dem and GOP judges. They check that the number on the ballot is valid and in sequence. After each pack is signed, the ballots are shuffled and randomized, before handing them to the voters.
Spoiled ballot? Oops I voted wrong, too many? The ballot gets a YUGE red X on it and is signed by two judges, one from each party. Give them a new ballot.
Need more ballots? Open a new pack and get the judges signing them.
Left over blank ballots? After the polls close and everyone voted, the judges dip the unused ballots into a bucket of ink to spoil them. Make sure the sequence number and the judges signatures are still visible.
Count the ballots. Stack them up, put a cover sheet on it, a board underneath it, then drive two nails through the stack and have the judges circle the nails, and sign and date the cover sheet. Use multiple stacks as necessary, with #1 of 27, etc., on the cover sheet.
The number of valid votes should be equal or less than the number of signatures in the polling books. Lock the stacks and the books in a box, seal it, and have the judges sign the seals. Trasport to the central station by multiple judges from multiple parties. Lock everything in a secure room for 90 days, with video monitoring.
Only let the door be opened in the presence of multiple judges for recounting. After 90 days, perform an audit of a sample of the ballots. Check that the voter actually voted, was a valid voter, the votes and voter roll matched, the votes tallied match a recount.
I am sure someone can improve my idea.
The problem is polling stations in Philadelphia kicking the GOP judges and poll watchers out.
Posted by: rd at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (Rtl0g)
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Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
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Gives a whole new meaning to Happy Fun Camps.
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Gives a whole new meaning to Happy Fun Camps.
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (2WITp)
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Nood Varret the Ferret.
Posted by: Joe Mama at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (S4vXM)
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There are two tree rats sitting in the tree outside my window just staring at me. Stupid tree rats.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (mf5HN)
For you. The Animal Conspiracy.
https://youtu.be/3LDnQpD_uFQ
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:49 PM (mf5HN)
For you. The Animal Conspiracy.
https://youtu.be/3LDnQpD_uFQ
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (z/Ubi)
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Can we at least get the cool uniforms and hobnail boots if we are going to be nazees?
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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John Glenn was a hero because of his actions, he became a senator because he was a hero. When the breaking news thing came on and the announcer only got out an American astronaut and hero, I was almost expecting Buzz Aldrin. He just had to be emergency medically evacuated from Antarctica.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (6Ll1u)
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Great pilot. Shitty senator. No hero of mine.
Sometimes War Heroes should just stop while they're ahead.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (RKJF2)
Being good at one thing, does not make you good at all things...
Great pilot. Shitty senator. No hero of mine.
Sometimes War Heroes should just stop while they're ahead.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (RKJF2)
Being good at one thing, does not make you good at all things...
Posted by: Don Q. at December 08, 2016 04:55 PM (qf6WZ)
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In late November 1950, after the Chinese intervention into the war, his unit was caught up in heavy fighting in North Korea as part of the U.N. forces retreat from the Yalu River. In the Battle of Kunu-ri, the 2nd Infantry was assigned to hold a road position near Kunu-ri while the rest of the Eighth Army retreated to Sunchon, 21 miles further south. On the night of November 29, 1950, the 2nd Infantry was attacked by gradually encircling forces of the Chinese Army, who set up a fireblock to cut off any U.S. retreat. The eerie blare of Chinese night-fighting bugle calls and communication flares piercing the freezing air led to what Rangel later described as a "waking nightmare, scene by scene, and we couldn't see any possible way out of the situation." During the day of November 30, the order came to withdraw the 2nd Infantry in phases, but the 503rd Artillery Battalion was sixth of eight in the order and could not get out in daylight when air cover was possible.
On the night of November 30, Rangel was part of a retreating vehicle column that was trapped and attacked by Chinese forces. In the subzero cold, Rangel was injured in the back by shrapnel from a Chinese shell. He later wrote that the blast threw him into a ditch and caused him to pray fervently to Jesus. Up and down the line of the retreat, unit cohesion disappeared under attack and officers lost contact with their men. There was screaming and moaning around him and some U.S. soldiers were being taken prisoner, but despite feeling overwhelming fear Rangel resolved to try to escape over an imposing mountain: "From the rim of that gully it just looked like everything had to be better on the other side of that damn mountain."
Others nearby looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class had a reputation for leadership in the unit and had gained the nickname "Sarge". Rangel led some 40 men from his unit over the mountain during the night and out of the Chinese encirclement. Other groups were trying to do the same, but some men dropped from the severe conditions or got lost and were never heard from again. By midday on December 1, U.S. aircraft were dropping supplies and directions to Rangel's group and others, and had a raft ready to take them across the Taedong River; groups from the 503rd Artillery reached Sunchon that afternoon. Overall, no part of the 2nd Infantry suffered as many casualties as the artillery; it tried to save, but eventually lost, all its guns, and nearly half of the battalion was killed in the overall battle.
Rangel was treated first at a field hospital, then moved to a general hospital well behind the lines in South Korea where he recuperated. He eventually returned to regular duty, then was rotated back to the U.S. in July 1951.
Rangel was awarded a Purple Heart for his wounds, the Bronze Star with Valor for his actions in the face of death, and three battle stars. His Army unit was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation and the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_rangel
No doubt, when Rangel dies, there will be those that want to gloss over what a scumbag he was as a politician. My response will be, "Fuck that shit!"
Upon his death it will be entirely appropriate to remember Rangel's service to his country and the way he put his life on the line. It will also be appropriate to remember what he did with his life after that time.
On the night of November 30, Rangel was part of a retreating vehicle column that was trapped and attacked by Chinese forces. In the subzero cold, Rangel was injured in the back by shrapnel from a Chinese shell. He later wrote that the blast threw him into a ditch and caused him to pray fervently to Jesus. Up and down the line of the retreat, unit cohesion disappeared under attack and officers lost contact with their men. There was screaming and moaning around him and some U.S. soldiers were being taken prisoner, but despite feeling overwhelming fear Rangel resolved to try to escape over an imposing mountain: "From the rim of that gully it just looked like everything had to be better on the other side of that damn mountain."
Others nearby looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class had a reputation for leadership in the unit and had gained the nickname "Sarge". Rangel led some 40 men from his unit over the mountain during the night and out of the Chinese encirclement. Other groups were trying to do the same, but some men dropped from the severe conditions or got lost and were never heard from again. By midday on December 1, U.S. aircraft were dropping supplies and directions to Rangel's group and others, and had a raft ready to take them across the Taedong River; groups from the 503rd Artillery reached Sunchon that afternoon. Overall, no part of the 2nd Infantry suffered as many casualties as the artillery; it tried to save, but eventually lost, all its guns, and nearly half of the battalion was killed in the overall battle.
Rangel was treated first at a field hospital, then moved to a general hospital well behind the lines in South Korea where he recuperated. He eventually returned to regular duty, then was rotated back to the U.S. in July 1951.
Rangel was awarded a Purple Heart for his wounds, the Bronze Star with Valor for his actions in the face of death, and three battle stars. His Army unit was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation and the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_rangel
No doubt, when Rangel dies, there will be those that want to gloss over what a scumbag he was as a politician. My response will be, "Fuck that shit!"
Upon his death it will be entirely appropriate to remember Rangel's service to his country and the way he put his life on the line. It will also be appropriate to remember what he did with his life after that time.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 08, 2016 04:55 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2016 04:55 PM (784ZQ)
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Time to declare victory and walk away?
Posted by: Brian Williams at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (yL25O)
Yeah, it might be time to do a last read through, print it out and then go through it tomorrow morning and be horrified by the rest of what I find.
Story time!
At the Old Firm, I was flipping through the printed copies of an appellate brief before boxing them up to send off to be filed. Mind you, this was a brief that was proofed by at least four different people at least seven or eight times each.
I was basically just rifling through the pages to be sure they were all printed the proper direction when something caught my eye.
So there I was, sitting on the floor with a pen, putting the missing f into the word shift. Not a single one of us caught that.
Remember, folks, your brain reads what it knows is there, not necessarily the actual words on the page and that can lead to hilarity.
Posted by: Brian Williams at December 08, 2016 04:52 PM (yL25O)
Yeah, it might be time to do a last read through, print it out and then go through it tomorrow morning and be horrified by the rest of what I find.
Story time!
At the Old Firm, I was flipping through the printed copies of an appellate brief before boxing them up to send off to be filed. Mind you, this was a brief that was proofed by at least four different people at least seven or eight times each.
I was basically just rifling through the pages to be sure they were all printed the proper direction when something caught my eye.
So there I was, sitting on the floor with a pen, putting the missing f into the word shift. Not a single one of us caught that.
Remember, folks, your brain reads what it knows is there, not necessarily the actual words on the page and that can lead to hilarity.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
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Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
Quite ironic, given that it's Democrats who would likely make Jews wear gold stars so their Muslim allies could better identify them.
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
Quite ironic, given that it's Democrats who would likely make Jews wear gold stars so their Muslim allies could better identify them.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 08, 2016 04:57 PM (VQwRE)
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I am sure someone can improve my idea.
I'm sure pit bosses in every casino could probably put something together. That procedure sounds very similar.
I'm sure pit bosses in every casino could probably put something together. That procedure sounds very similar.
Posted by: no good deed at December 08, 2016 04:58 PM (hJamr)
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>>Simple, but you need honest election judges. IOW Both Parties, or all three or four parties need to participate 100%.
How about Trump make election day a national holiday? Would sure help get some more working people available to assist with the election.
And then he and Sessions could work with states to restore same-day voting only except for the original reasons to vote absentee, not all mail voting like we have in CO (and OR?).
How about Trump make election day a national holiday? Would sure help get some more working people available to assist with the election.
And then he and Sessions could work with states to restore same-day voting only except for the original reasons to vote absentee, not all mail voting like we have in CO (and OR?).
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 04:58 PM (NOIQH)
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Can we at least get the cool uniforms and hobnail boots if we are going to be nazees?
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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and the chicks get thigh high leather boots and riding crops
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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and the chicks get thigh high leather boots and riding crops
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2016 04:58 PM (2WITp)
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RIP John Glenn - a limerick
Right around the time of my birth
Men like John Glenn were proving their worth
The Right Stuff? Indeed!
We wish him Godspeed
He has now slipped the bonds of this Earth!
RIP John Glenn - a limerick
Right around the time of my birth
Men like John Glenn were proving their worth
The Right Stuff? Indeed!
We wish him Godspeed
He has now slipped the bonds of this Earth!
Posted by: Muldoon, private citizen engaging in political satire at December 08, 2016 04:59 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 08, 2016 05:00 PM (dELE3)
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>>Tine Fey warns
>>Who? ;-)
The woman credited with turning Palin into a national joke via her SNL skits.
Yeah, consider me unmoved by Fey's cries.
>>Who? ;-)
The woman credited with turning Palin into a national joke via her SNL skits.
Yeah, consider me unmoved by Fey's cries.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 08, 2016 05:00 PM (NOIQH)
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>>>Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name. It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
Awww. *shoves through USB port brownies. No not Colorado brownies, horde, just regular ones*
I misspelled a major donor's name once in a mockup for a big project, and yes the donor saw it. Good times. At least you are catching them? Some days it feels like you'd be farther ahead if you just stayed in bed the whole time. Sorry if this is one of those!
I'm working on a white elephant gift of a project; no one wants it, no one is giving helpful feedback on it, and it HAS to be done by next week or DOOM for our office. Bah humbug.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
Awww. *shoves through USB port brownies. No not Colorado brownies, horde, just regular ones*
I misspelled a major donor's name once in a mockup for a big project, and yes the donor saw it. Good times. At least you are catching them? Some days it feels like you'd be farther ahead if you just stayed in bed the whole time. Sorry if this is one of those!
I'm working on a white elephant gift of a project; no one wants it, no one is giving helpful feedback on it, and it HAS to be done by next week or DOOM for our office. Bah humbug.
Posted by: LizLem at December 08, 2016 05:00 PM (hvf9s)
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The problem is polling stations in Philadelphia kicking the GOP judges and poll watchers out.
Destroy all ballot from said precinct ...
Destroy all ballot from said precinct ...
Posted by: Adriane the Foolproof Mousetrap Critic ... at December 08, 2016 05:01 PM (AoK0a)
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Tina Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
If you read the article you'll see that Tina appears to be a fan of Lani Reifenstahl. Maybe she plans on staying out of The Camps by volunteering to entertain the occupants.
If you read the article you'll see that Tina appears to be a fan of Lani Reifenstahl. Maybe she plans on staying out of The Camps by volunteering to entertain the occupants.
Posted by: tu3031 at December 08, 2016 05:01 PM (qJhUV)
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239 Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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To be fair, many of my Jewish friends already do wear gold stars (of David).
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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To be fair, many of my Jewish friends already do wear gold stars (of David).
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at December 08, 2016 05:02 PM (3Eg8d)
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Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
No, we already established yesterday that the Trumpenfuhrer's first order of business will be to reconstitute the Schutzstaffel in snazzy uniforms designed by Ivanka. I vote for yuge epaulettes, luxurious gold trim and jackboots; yep, definitely need the jackboots.
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
No, we already established yesterday that the Trumpenfuhrer's first order of business will be to reconstitute the Schutzstaffel in snazzy uniforms designed by Ivanka. I vote for yuge epaulettes, luxurious gold trim and jackboots; yep, definitely need the jackboots.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 08, 2016 05:02 PM (5Yee7)
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John Glenn hero for his service and miserable as a very liberal senator
Posted by: gycincy at December 08, 2016 05:02 PM (0P4bz)
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>>> Being good at one thing, does not make you good at all things...
Posted by: Don Q. at December 08, 2016 04:55 PM (qf6WZ)
wait what?
Posted by: Don Q. at December 08, 2016 04:55 PM (qf6WZ)
wait what?
Posted by: Zombie Grant, buried in a tomb called...I forget what at December 08, 2016 05:02 PM (hvf9s)
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HEY!
Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name.
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM
I feel your pain, Empress. I've been staring at a response to a trademark office action for far too long, and it still doesn't read right. Major writer's block at the moment. I'll probably wake up at 0200 with an epiphany. 'Cause that's how my brain rolls.
Annnnnd I just realized that I transposed numbers in the docket number and misspelled our client's name.
It's not a difficult name.
I'm just so awesome, let me tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at December 08, 2016 04:48 PM
I feel your pain, Empress. I've been staring at a response to a trademark office action for far too long, and it still doesn't read right. Major writer's block at the moment. I'll probably wake up at 0200 with an epiphany. 'Cause that's how my brain rolls.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2016 05:04 PM (kDUMP)
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239 Tine Fey warns prepare for Nazi America under Trump
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
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*Holds Earth in its hands, like a snowglobe*
My God.
It's full of fucking idiots.
Damn skippy they're staying the fuck away from Europa.
*texts*
STAY.
THE.
FUCK.
AWAY.
FROM.
EUROPA.
Yep; First day in office Trump will require Jews to wear gold stars. Uhh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2016 04:51 PM (tOcW/)
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*Holds Earth in its hands, like a snowglobe*
My God.
It's full of fucking idiots.
Damn skippy they're staying the fuck away from Europa.
*texts*
STAY.
THE.
FUCK.
AWAY.
FROM.
EUROPA.
Posted by: Dave Bowman at December 08, 2016 05:05 PM (CRotO)
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Well done Mitten Kingdom. Why any true citizen wouldn't demand this is beyond me. Of course the Dems were worried it would "disenfranchise properly registered voters"...how?
Note that one of the excuses for not having to provide a picture ID is "Voter has ID but didn't bring it to the polls". Because you were caught unawares by this?
My lib coworker thinks having to get an ID puts undue strain on a poor person's resources. Hope these free IDs shut down that argument.
Note that one of the excuses for not having to provide a picture ID is "Voter has ID but didn't bring it to the polls". Because you were caught unawares by this?
My lib coworker thinks having to get an ID puts undue strain on a poor person's resources. Hope these free IDs shut down that argument.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 08, 2016 05:18 PM (EnKk6)
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255 Can we at least get the cool uniforms and hobnail boots if we are going to be nazees?
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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Don't forget the skull lapel pins!
If you want an instagram of your future, imagine a fabulous stiletto-heeled boot stamping on your face forever.
It'll be fabulous!
Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2016 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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Don't forget the skull lapel pins!
If you want an instagram of your future, imagine a fabulous stiletto-heeled boot stamping on your face forever.
It'll be fabulous!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 08, 2016 05:30 PM (EnKk6)
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"Vote by mail fraud is the coming thing."
Exactly! Why steal votes retail, when vote-by-mail lets us do it wholesale?
Exactly! Why steal votes retail, when vote-by-mail lets us do it wholesale?
Posted by: Zombie Richard J. Daley at December 08, 2016 05:38 PM (xgyfF)
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"If colored people are people of color, then am I a person of white? Or a person of no color?"
I like Mark Steyn's term "person of pallor".
I like Mark Steyn's term "person of pallor".
Posted by: Brown Line at December 08, 2016 05:44 PM (xgyfF)
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Dems like Stein stand against voter ID laws that would help ensure accurate results, then sues that there could be inaccurate count because of voter fraud....makes me crazy.
Posted by: liz953 at December 08, 2016 05:47 PM (NSTAp)
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good god, trump was right. I am getting tired of winning!
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at December 08, 2016 06:42 PM (UgF8H)
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I mean, how many times in one day can a man, any man, point and laugh like Nelson from the Simpsons
"hah-ha"!
"hah-ha"!
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at December 08, 2016 06:43 PM (UgF8H)
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Seriously, I think I need to see a doctor about this. I'm out of breath from laughing at all their stupidity. the whole thing is collapsing like a house of cards. Cards on fucking fire!
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at December 08, 2016 06:44 PM (UgF8H)
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Jill )(unning in a rat maze) has managed to implement voter ID. Jill tell me your not a RNC mole?
Posted by: Buffalobob at December 09, 2016 01:06 AM (p+cjo)
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Stick that in your Stein!
Posted by: braininahat at December 09, 2016 03:23 AM (6d6pQ)
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An eye/fingerprint scanner will eliminate a lot of problems. The scan can be crosschecked in a couple of minutes with other states data bases.
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 09, 2016 05:42 AM (+9AX9)
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My wife suggested that, from now on, Voter ID should be known as "Jill's Law".
Posted by: George LeS at December 09, 2016 06:39 AM (+TcCF)
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