Paul Krugman Got His Degree In Being Wrong All the Time

An angry, vain, petty little man who barks like a runt dog who wants attention.

Two weeks ago, the day after the election:

It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?" Krugman said in his post. "If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."
"We are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight," he added. "I suppose we could get lucky somehow. But on economics, as on everything else, a terrible thing has just happened."
But Krugman's forecast that the markets would "never" recover took just nine hours to be proven totally wrong. Come Wednesday morning, the fever had almost entirely broken in the U.S. Instead of dropping by 10 percent or more, as some predicted, the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P 500 all rose by more than a percent. Later in the day, the Dow briefly surged above its all-time closing high, before ending the day just a few points below it. The Dow finished the day up about 257 points overall.

And today, the Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed the 19,000 level for the first time in history, though it's edged back a bit off that record high.

Posted by: Ace at 01:37 PM

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1 You forgot 'Paul Krugman, former Enron advisor'.

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 01:48 PM (Enq6K)

2 Just took that long for the wall street guys to figure out how much money would be made during a Trump presidency.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 22, 2016 01:48 PM (2PHKP)

3 Third?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 22, 2016 01:49 PM (2PHKP)

4 Someone go get the corgis.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 22, 2016 01:49 PM (2PHKP)

5 Give his another Nobel Prize for inventing DYN-O-MITE economic predictions!

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:49 PM (jBuUi)

6 One of our elites.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 01:49 PM (/tuJf)

7 Dynamic Equilibrium is a cruel, cruel mistress.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2016 01:49 PM (pyZce)

8 Ah, remember how the Brexit vote would crash the British economy?

Good times, good times.

It's incredible that Leftists inevitably ALWAYS believe their own stupid propaganda. Even the "smart ones" believe it.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (jBuUi)

9 How can one man be so wrong about so many things? Mental illness?

Posted by: USNtakim at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (hMqvx)

10 Things just keep getting netter and better.....

Posted by: Flyboy at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (9hpn+)

11 Paul Krugman, Inexplicable Nobel Prize Winner, might be a bit biased.

(That said, the economy is probably going to get worse before it gets better.)

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (RD7QR)

12 8 Ah, remember how the Brexit vote would crash the British economy?

Good times, good times.

It's incredible that Leftists inevitably ALWAYS believe their own stupid propaganda. Even the "smart ones" believe it.
Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (jBuUi)

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They'll be right next time.

Just like communism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (bheOt)

13 "better", sheesh....

Posted by: Flyboy at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (9hpn+)

14 As with Barky, Krugman became a Nobel laureate due to his prominent expression of _bien-pensant_ opinions, and not as a result of any significant accomplishment.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (noWW6)

15 Of course what's going to suck is when Obama is out of office we're going to have to start dealing with real numbers.

And then of course there is after 8 years of Wall Street doing well being the indication of a great economy to being Wall Street is the only section of the economy doing well and everyone else is suffering.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (JPkzo)

16 With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth Gods work must truly be our own.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (EbeEQ)

17 Krugman is the poster child for the arrogance of the academy.

He was a gifted economist in a very narrow field within economics. He got a Nobel, and promptly decided that his skill in one thing meant that he was skilled in all things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (42Mgr)

18 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 01:53 PM (kff5f)

19 The four days that ended all credibility for the Nobel prize were when they gave medals to (in chronological order):

-- Yasser Arafat
-- Al Gore
-- Barack Obama
-- Paul Krugman

They burned through a century's worth of accumulated social status with just four blunders. Tragic.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:53 PM (jBuUi)

20 Burn it* down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

* - For given values of "it."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 01:53 PM (kff5f)

21 Krugman is the short version of the economics professor in the movie Back to School. That must make Trump Rodney Dangerfield.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 01:54 PM (lrKc+)

22 15 Of course what's going to suck is when Obama is out of office we're going to have to start dealing with real numbers.

And then of course there is after 8 years of Wall Street doing well being the indication of a great economy to being Wall Street is the only section of the economy doing well and everyone else is suffering.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (JPkzo)

Yep. Suddenly the media will have stories of unemployment, homelessness, rain, bad knees, and general suckitude. It'll be like they took a vacation during the preceding 8 years.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at November 22, 2016 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

23 "They'll be right next time. Just like communism."

Well, it would have worked fine the first time, right out of the gate, if it hadn't have been for all those pesky kulaks and wreckers who wouldn't get with the program.

We'll be ready for them next time!!!

Posted by: Happy Fun Camp Activities Director at November 22, 2016 01:54 PM (noWW6)

24 An angry, vain, petty little man who barks like a runt dog who wants attention.

And dumber than a creosote post.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (mpXpK)

25 I'm not sure what I enjoy more, reading posts about Krug-fails or reading the comments. Me thinks both equally...

Posted by: Inogame at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (ySZHT)

26 Donald Trump's metaphorical cock is YUUUUGE rammed up Paul Krugman's metaphorical ass.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (jBuUi)

27 19 The four days that ended all credibility for the Nobel prize were when they gave medals to (in chronological order):

-- Yasser Arafat
-- Al Gore
-- Barack Obama
-- Paul Krugman

They burned through a century's worth of accumulated social status with just four blunders. Tragic.
Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:53 PM (jBuUi)

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I had read that Krugman's was actually really deserved.

Of course, it was back in the day when he thought minimum wage laws had negative impacts on employment, so...pre-LSD, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (bheOt)

28 Putting the con in economics.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (lERYu)

29 I never cease to boggle at how people build lasting and lucrative careers out of being total fuckups.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (0mRoj)

30
Former Enron advisor Paul Krugman... credit given where credit is due, after all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (smOe5)

31 "Suddenly the media will have stories of unemployment, homelessness,
rain, bad knees, and general suckitude. It'll be like they took a
vacation during the preceding 8 years."

Also, "grim milestones" of American combat deaths.

Remember those?

Far away, long ago, in the Before Time?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 01:56 PM (noWW6)

32 Paul Krugman is a silly little bitch.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 01:56 PM (xeeHA)

33 23 "They'll be right next time. Just like communism."

Well, it would have worked fine the first time, right out of the gate, if it hadn't have been for all those pesky kulaks and wreckers who wouldn't get with the program.

We'll be ready for them next time!!!
Posted by: Happy Fun Camp Activities Director at November 22, 2016 01:54 PM (noWW6)

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Yup, you just need to get every person in a nation to act exactly as a central planner decides they should.

Who could ever see this going wrong?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 01:56 PM (bheOt)

34 But on economics, as on everything else, a terrible thing has just happened.

The terrible thing happened 8 years ago and was being (very expensively) hidden. That is now coming due, as it always had to, at some point.

Trump is going to have to fight the worst economic and monetary conditions any President has ever seen, and it is not assured that this nation can weather it. But, the only way out is to grow out of it. There is no other solution even possible, and Trump is pretty much the only one who ran on the idea of unmitigated economic growth. Pretty much his entire focus, so far as I can see, is going to be on lifting government off of people's backs and necks and letting this economy start to grow, again. That is the only chance to get through this, and even then it's going to be dicey.

$20 trillion in debt plus a gargantuan Fed balance sheet of $5 trillion is not something that can be dealt with overnight. We are going to need to see upwards of 6% growth for an extended time - which we can do. It's yet to know if we will.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 22, 2016 01:56 PM (zc3Db)

35 A well meaning idiot.
Democrats love them.

Posted by: navybrat at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (w7KSn)

36 So who tells Paul to go get his shine box?

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (PHcLa)

37 But Krugman's forecast that the markets would "never" recover took just nine hours to be proven totally wrong.

And most of those nine hours the market wasn't open, I do believe.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

38 I know Tom Friedman was at today's NYT-Trump meeting. Was Paul there, too?

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (JBggj)

39 "-- Yasser Arafat

-- Al Gore

-- Barack Obama

-- Paul Krugman"

Rigoberta Menchu.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (noWW6)

40 It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are
plunging. When might we expect them to recover?" Krugman said in his
post. "If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer
is never."

And like all the far left talking heads on TV the dumb shit thinks the "markets" reflect the economy. They never have and they never will. And that has actually became worse in modern times and the "day traders".

So he was not just wrong on the markets, he is doubly wrong on economic matters. And this jerk-wad supposedly is an award wining "economist".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (mpXpK)

41 How can one man be so wrong about so many things? Mental illness?

Posted by: USNtakim at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (hMqvx)

And yet this clown continues to draw a paycheck...

Posted by: Timon at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (27k1O)

42 The day after the election, when smart buyers bought low and the stocks spiked back up (in an utterly predictable pattern), I tweeted back to Krugman "do you ever get tired of being wrong?"

I mean, seriously. I expect economic collapse and very bad things soon, but to say that the stock market will never recover is just idiotic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)

43 He gets paid big money for tips like this.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 01:58 PM (CFc5L)

44 I had read that Krugman's was actually really deserved.

Of course, it was back in the day when he thought minimum wage laws had negative impacts on employment, so...pre-LSD, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Nah -- he was given the award not for his long-ago theory (which was unremarkable), but because he had graduated into becoming a leftist water-carrier. It was a political statement, giving him the prize. His theory, judged on its own merits, did not deserve an award. All sorts of economists have all sorts of theories all the time, many of which are better and more useful predictors than his was.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:58 PM (jBuUi)

45 As a lifelong Republican, I believe it is important to listen to moderate intellectuals like Mr. Krugman. I am also concerned by Trump's rude treatment of national icons like the New York Times. Rural voters in places like Wisconsin will hold this against him.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at November 22, 2016 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

46 Krugman is an odd anomaly.
Cushy job, pontificating.
Consistently wrong.
Praised and cosseted.

How can so much fail be exalted?

Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (d6TTt)

47 So this is why I hold economics in low regard: economists are wrong all the fucking time. One gets the Nobel Prize in economics for saying A > B. The next year another one gets it for saying A < B. And the two happily coexist, with one being rejected.

WTF?

In a real science, at least one of them would be proven wrong.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (SRKgf)

48 The thing is, before he got famous in his NYT gig, he was actually a pretty solid economist. I think his column is basically just pap for liberals to enjoy and feel smart by repeating and referring to, not anything he believes in.

Then again, he was ENRON's economist so....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (39g3+)

49 Trump is going to have to fight the worst economic and monetary conditions any President has ever seen, and it is not assured that this nation can weather it.

Eh. Herbert Hoover might disagree with you, but what did he know? (Actually, you may have a quite valid point).

I did find it interesting that the head of the Fed basically said, "Yep, we're waiting to raise interest rates until Trump actually takes office. Then all you people addicted to cheap debt are going to get your hangover."

Almost as if the institution had been politicized.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (kff5f)

50 Also

*POINTS WILDLY AT SIDEBAR*

I TOLD YOU!

I TOLD YOU ABOUT OUTSIDE AND THE TREE RAT MENACE!

I. TOLD. YOU!

*Cassandras all over the place*

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (mf5HN)

51 But Krugman's forecast that the markets would "never" recover took just nine hours to be proven totally wrong.
...
Paul Krugman unavailable for comment.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (1H9ox)

52 #21

Krugman is the short version of the economics professor in the movie Back to School. That must make Trump Rodney Dangerfield.

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Heh. I see what you did there.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (JBggj)

53 44 Nah -- he was given the award not for his long-ago theory (which was unremarkable), but because he had graduated into becoming a leftist water-carrier. It was a political statement, giving him the prize. His theory, judged on its own merits, did not deserve an award. All sorts of economists have all sorts of theories all the time, many of which are better and more useful predictors than his was.
Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:58 PM (jBuUi)

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Well, there we go.

Unremarkable work being rewarded by Europeans.

Whoda thunk?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (bheOt)

54 46 Krugman is an odd anomaly.
Cushy job, pontificating.
Consistently wrong.
Praised and cosseted.

How can so much fail be exalted?
Posted by: tubal at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (d6TTt)

*cough*TFG*cough*

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (0mRoj)

55 So much for 'real' news:

@nytimes 47m

Trump says "no" when asked if he is taking investigations off the table for the Clintons, @maggieNYT says.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (Yg871)

56

Big Bloated Bubble Burst Be Berry, Berry Bad

Posted by: Sammy Sosa at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (pyZce)

57 This POP fellow seems to know what he's talking about.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (RKJF2)

58 I trust Tom Skilling more than Paul Krugman.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (1H9ox)

59 Krugman's gotta krug.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (QM5S2)

60 Trump should Indian-give Krugman the Treasury post. For, like, 17 minutes. After the close. With a before-after photo op by an aide.

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (Bdeb0)

61 50 Also

*POINTS WILDLY AT SIDEBAR*

I TOLD YOU!

I TOLD YOU ABOUT OUTSIDE AND THE TREE RAT MENACE!

I. TOLD. YOU!

*Cassandras all over the place*
Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (mf5HN)

We're gonna need a mop...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

62 A well meaning idiot.

Nope. Not well meaning. And I'm not convinced on "idiot."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (kff5f)

63
In the hotel room this morning Mrs. Krebs was flipping through channels and Thomas Friedman was on one flapping his piehole. "Move along!" I implored...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (smOe5)

64 Economists are best at explaining why they were wrong yesterday.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (jxxzr)

65
This song has been running through my head when I read something like this ever since Hillary! lost:

"Don't You Just Know it'

by Huey "Piano" Smith and the Clowns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sxnXO2RjVg

It's a fun oldie that pretty much perfectly captures how I've been feeling.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (vZ9Fw)

66 "There is no other solution even possible..."

There is, but you won't like it.

It has already happened 2 times in our nation's history.

Both presidents who did it were Republicans.

Posted by: navybrat at November 22, 2016 02:00 PM (w7KSn)

67 Trump is going to have to educate everyone.on the cooked funemployment numbers. As of now you could add 3 million jobs and if you add the equivalent number to the workforce denominator, the % will barely move. It's insane.

Posted by: Mega at November 22, 2016 02:01 PM (ULxqW)

68 "41 How can one man be so wrong about so many things? Mental illness?

Posted by: USNtakim at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM (hMqvx)"

It is a mystery. You would think the broken clock theory would come into play at some point. John Kerry has been wrong about every foreign policy matter for 40+ years and keeps getting promoted.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 22, 2016 02:01 PM (OD2ni)

69 How much would I have to pay Paul Krugman to say "joe, living dangerously will never have a threesome with Morina Baccarin and Olivia Munn"?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 22, 2016 02:01 PM (KUaJL)

70 I should've been a broken clock

Posted by: Paul K at November 22, 2016 02:02 PM (h/uSM)

71 How can so much fail be exalted?
Posted by: tubal

Remember, we failed him.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:02 PM (jxxzr)

72 39 "-- Yasser Arafat
-- Al Gore
-- Barack Obama
-- Paul Krugman"
Rigoberta Menchu.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 01:57 PM (noWW6)

It's important to distinguish between the various Nobel Prizes. Peace and Literature are a joke, obviously. Economics could in principle be OK. Physics, chemistry, and medicine/physiology are the real deal (with a few booboos thrown in).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:02 PM (SRKgf)

73 "...and after reviewing his financial prognostications, I've decided to nominate Paul Krugman to serve as the nation's Treasury Secretary. I have full confidence in his ability to take a joke on national television. Just kidding, Paul, you're a fucking idiot. You're fired. Don't shake my hand, I can't stand germs."

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 02:02 PM (Bdeb0)

74 It's the same as the Climate Change doomsters. There's a narrative, and Everything and Every Right Thinking Person supports it.

Well, except for reality. Reality is not so inclined to being panicked.

Posted by: Halfwise at November 22, 2016 02:02 PM (rB/gm)

75 >>I know Tom Friedman was at today's NYT-Trump meeting. Was Paul there, too?

Check out Maggie Haberman's twitter timeline. She's live tweeting the meeting. Some interesting tidbits coming out of there.

Kelly Ayotte is not getting a job with Trump.

Mattis does not support waterboarding.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

76 It's not so much that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so.

Posted by: Mega at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (ULxqW)

77
I had read that Krugman's was actually really deserved.

Of course, it was back in the day when he thought minimum wage laws had negative impacts on employment, so...pre-LSD, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 01:55 PM (bheOt)

As I recall, he did innovative work in an extremely esoteric branch of economics. A branch that has proven to be essentially irrelevant.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (LuZz8)

78 An angry, vain, petty little man who barks like a runt dog who wants attention.

Well, in my defense, I do drink a lot.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (X6fMO)

79 He was a gifted economist in a very narrow field within economics. He got a Nobel, and promptly decided that his skill in one thing meant that he was skilled in all things.

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Not ALL things...

Posted by: Mrs. Krugman at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (h/uSM)

80 Paul Krugman is to economic predictions as Bill Kristol is to political predictions.

Even the stopped-clock analogy does not apply to these loseriest of losers.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (WlGX+)

81 It's honestly hard to determine what will happen. The rate increase will happen and it's more a matter of how that will effect the market. It will most certainly hit real estate which has been printing some pretty good gains. Frankly I don't like some of the multiples on stocks because there simply isn't a lot of substance to justify many share prices. Bonds are also getting hit and that's been a bright spot during this period of cheap money and the fed buying up inventory.

That's not saying I agree with Krugman. He's a pompous ignorant ass and Democrat useful idiot who can't match his socks. But I don't think anyone knows where this market is going.

By the way. This comes from a guy who was betting heavily that Trump would win. Trust me, that felt like I was a guy with an STD at an orgy. But in the end I came out like Byron Long. So to speak.

By the way if Trump can get the things done he's articulated I am still long in the equity markets.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (Waim4)

82 Trump is going to have to fight the worst economic and monetary conditions any President has ever seen, and it is not assured that this nation can weather it.

I believe so as well. When the plates stop spinning, its going to be pretty godawful. The Obama administration has kept the scam going pretty long but I don't think Trump will put up with it.

I'd suggest the Trump team start publicizing real economic data, not the twisted and spun and massaged numbers we've been getting. Correct the numbers and straight up data for the last 4 or more years. Real unemployment, real growth/recession, real inflation etc. Get people ready.

Because its been a festival of lies out of the White House for years now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (39g3+)

83 He is like the Peak Oil scam guys. Every prediction they ever made turned out to be completely wrong every single time.

If stupidity was physically painful maybe they would try and fix it.

Idiots.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (iONHu)

84 51 But Krugman's forecast that the markets would "never" recover took just nine hours to be proven totally wrong.
...
Paul Krugman unavailable for comment.
Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (1H9ox)

Now we know how and why Enron went tits up. Thanks for the advice, Paul!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (SRKgf)

85 It's incredible that Leftists inevitably ALWAYS believe their own stupid propaganda. Even the "smart ones" believe it.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 01:51 PM

Well, David Brooks got one thing right when he wrote about how to be a professional public intellectual in Bobos. The best thing an essay can be is wrong, given that they're more about publicity than results.

Posted by: Charlie Brown at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (kDUMP)

86 He was a gifted economist in a very narrow field within economics. He got a Nobel, and promptly decided that his skill in one thing meant that he was skilled in all things.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (42Mgr)

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It is also what happens when people join cults. He became a devout Progressive & Radical Internationalist and all facts and common sense went out the window.

Just look at his twitter page, you would think he has just seen witches having an orgy with Satan.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (MuTTO)

87 Well, in my defense, I do drink a lot.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (X6fMO)

Also you have better taste in your little finger than Former Enron Advisor Paul Krugman does in his whole body.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (mf5HN)

88 Crap. Off, Peanuts sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (kDUMP)

89 "69 How much would I have to pay Paul Krugman to say "joe, living dangerously will never have a threesome with Morina Baccarin and Olivia Munn"?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously"

I'd chip in just to get Munn away from Aaron Rodgers.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (OD2ni)

90 Krugman sounds like a made up name. Like maybe a corner store in a Neil Simon play..."Krugmans". Or a low level minion on Thundercats.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (1H9ox)

91 Bet it all on red!!!

Posted by: Paul Kurgman at November 22, 2016 02:04 PM (5hp5+)

92 Eh. Herbert Hoover might disagree with you, but what did he know? (Actually, you may have a quite valid point).

The situation now is much worse.

I did find it interesting that the head of the Fed basically said, "Yep, we're waiting to raise interest rates until Trump actually takes office. Then all you people addicted to cheap debt are going to get your hangover."

Almost as if the institution had been politicized.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (kff5f)

Of course, all of this was easily predictable. But I fault the Vichy GOP Congress, too, who never pushed the Fed head in Congress about how it was going to be so easy to unwind its balance sheet and revert back to normality.

It was eminently clear years ago that the US was totally off-the-rails on fiscal and monetary policy. To have the lowest interest rates in recorded history (and even pushing negative, which is beyond the threshold of insane) and have housing prices only treading water is as clear a sign as one can get that 'something is very, very, very wrong and the coming pain will be unbearable'. But ... on we went ... because Barky ahd magic skin and the Vichy GOP turds were either collaborating with him or too scared to even try to stop him as he did irreparable damage to the nation and to our society.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 22, 2016 02:05 PM (zc3Db)

93
He gets paid big money for tips like this.
Posted by: washrivergal

I wonder how much he made from Enron?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:05 PM (IqV8l)

94 >>I'd chip in just to get Munn away from Aaron Rodgers.

She did the same thing with Brad Richards when he was with the Rangers. Her boobies are bad juju.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

95 #75
Check out Maggie Haberman's twitter timeline. She's live tweeting the meeting. Some interesting tidbits coming out of there.
===============

I went through it (the drudge-linked one) a few minutes ago. I didn't see Paul's named mentioned. I'm worried about the guy. I hope he gets help, soon.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (JBggj)

96 I TOLD YOU!

I TOLD YOU ABOUT OUTSIDE AND THE TREE RAT MENACE!

I. TOLD. YOU!

Best ever. Grandad took me tree rat hunting at about 10 yrs old. Taught me how to find 'em, when to shoot them, how to clean them, and how to cook them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (4RRDi)

97 I saw Suicide Bomber Tree Rats open for Bikini Kill at the Odium in '98.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (mgbwf)

98 USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) is pier side following an engineering casualty the ship suffered transiting the Panama Canal, U.S. Navy officials told USNI News on Monday.

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (EbeEQ)

99 One of the best parts of rewatching the various election night coverage vids is seeing them all going apeshit over the temporary Dow plunge. You could see it in their faces, the ghouls were secretly loving it, as their FAB was going down in flames at the exact same moment.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (WlGX+)

100 Of course, all of this was easily predictable. But I fault the Vichy GOP Congress, too, who never pushed the Fed head in Congress about how it was going to be so easy to unwind its balance sheet and revert back to normality.

It goes back years, the GOP controlled congress was told over a dozen times by President Bush the younger that they had to reform Fannie/Freddie and the loan system or we'd all pay the price. They didn't want to touch any of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

101 She did the same thing with Brad Richards when he was with the Rangers. Her boobies are bad juju.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

I'll fall on that grenade for guys everywhere. Because I'm selfless like that.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (KUaJL)

102
Krugman sounds like a made up name. Like maybe a corner store in a Neil Simon play..."Krugmans". Or a low level minion on Thundercats.
Posted by: ajmojo

An alien race on Babylon 5

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (IqV8l)

103 I'd suggest the Trump team start publicizing real economic data, not the twisted and spun and massaged numbers we've been getting. Correct the numbers and straight up data for the last 4 or more years. Real unemployment, real growth/recession, real inflation etc.

I hope the next state of the union is like a cathartic shareholders meeting after the previous management just got cartridge to jail.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (jxxzr)

104 With a track record like that he should be receiving another two or three awards any day now....

Posted by: Boots at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (EBwPV)

105 >>>You forgot 'Paul Krugman, former Enron advisor'.<<<

You forgot "New York Times opinion writer and economist" Paul Krugman.
They throw the "economist" in there at the end to give him street cred, yo.

Posted by: Fritz at November 22, 2016 02:07 PM (2Mnv1)

106 The left only has to be correct once. They can be wrong about everything, but the one time a leftist is correct about something it will vindicate everything they believe in.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2016 02:09 PM (dnWSK)

107 Just look at his twitter page, you would think he has just seen witches having an orgy with Satan.
Posted by: William Eaton

He was over at Podesta's?

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:09 PM (jxxzr)

108 [iAs I recall, he did innovative work in an extremely esoteric branch of economics. A branch that has proven to be essentially irrelevant.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Exactly. I've read about this theory, and it's a combination of

-- self-evident stating of the obvious; and
-- irrelevant analysis of former models of international trade that no longer have any applicability to current conditions.

Macro-economists, in my observation, are prone to spectacular misapprehensions about human nature.

Posted by: zombie at November 22, 2016 02:09 PM (jBuUi)

109 "We are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight
***
That's been true since 2008 or so. Funny how that doesn't seem to have reached his attention until this point in time.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 22, 2016 02:09 PM (X7E8f)

110 --- Rigoberta Menchu.
Posted by: torquewrench

Gesundheit!

Posted by: Furious Mustache at November 22, 2016 02:09 PM (QX0Xt)

111

I will not be denied my birthright of higher office,, and that office being the oval office. Oh, and I'm currently available to give speeches for $300,000 a pop. Call me....

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (HSmrB)

112 Krugman sounds like a made up name.

Krug means jug.

So he drinks a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (mgbwf)

113 They throw the "economist" in there at the end to give him street cred, yo.
============

He's got credentials. Tons of 'em. More medals than a South American generalissimo.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (JBggj)

114 Mattis does not support waterboarding.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

That was never a DoD thing anyways, it was CIA only.

Posted by: MadDog Best Friend or Worse Enemy at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (7N6ox)

115 "But I fault the Vichy GOP Congress, too, who never pushed the Fed head
in Congress about how it was going to be so easy to unwind its balance
sheet and revert back to normality."

The amount of real-world economic understanding collectively possessed by the Beltway GOP would not fill a small teacup even with generous amounts of milk added.

So there's Dave Brat, and, um, well, geez, help me out here.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (noWW6)

116 99 One of the best parts of rewatching the various election night coverage vids is seeing them all going apeshit over the temporary Dow plunge."

Yep. And I am very far from being an economic expert, but even I knew what was going on. The market thought Hill would win. The market hates uncertainty so a temporary plunge was inevitable. Then it adjusted.

But the MSM does not miss a beat when it comes to being hysterical about Trump's win.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (u0lmX)

117 Look at the krugs on that broad.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (1H9ox)

118 69 How much would I have to pay Paul Krugman to say "joe, living dangerously will never have a threesome with Morina Baccarin and Olivia Munn"?

---

Not as much as i can pay him to say you will have one.

And it's Morena Baccarin nitwit.

Posted by: Morena Baccarin at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (h/uSM)

119 82 I'd suggest the Trump team start publicizing real economic data, not the twisted and spun and massaged numbers we've been getting. Correct the numbers and straight up data for the last 4 or more years. Real unemployment, real growth/recession, real inflation etc. Get people ready.

Because its been a festival of lies out of the White House for years now.

==============================

The last federal budget was signed by George W. Bush in 2007. Barky's entire presidency never ever saw a Barky budget. But that's totally normal, just ask former Enron guy Paul Krugman.

Posted by: Boots at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (EBwPV)

120 Krugman looks at weather forecasters with the green light of envy glowing in his tiny peabrained eyes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (b/kAv)

121 USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) is pier side following an engineering casualty the ship suffered transiting the Panama Canal, U.S. Navy officials told USNI News on Monday.

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup

It's almost as if the Federal government is the least effective organization in the US or something.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 02:12 PM (Yg871)

122 Krugman looks at weather forecasters with the green light of envy glowing in his tiny peabrained eyes.
....
Heyyyyy!!!

Posted by: Tom Skilling at November 22, 2016 02:12 PM (1H9ox)

123 The last federal budget was signed by George W. Bush in 2007. Barky's entire presidency never ever saw a Barky budget. But that's totally normal, just ask former Enron guy Paul Krugman.

Posted by: Boots at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (EBwPV)

*ragetwitches on ground*

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:12 PM (mf5HN)

124 Mattis does not support waterboarding.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

---

any word on acidboarding?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 22, 2016 02:12 PM (h/uSM)

125 He was over at Podesta's?

He said "satan" not "helpless, frightened children"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)

126 any word on acidboarding?
------------------
Super effective. Bigly.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 02:13 PM (xeeHA)

127 119 The last federal budget was signed by George W. Bush in 2007. Barky's entire presidency never ever saw a Barky budget. But that's totally normal, just ask former Enron guy Paul Krugman.

Posted by: Boots at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (EBwPV)

===================

You're welcome, fuckers.

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 22, 2016 02:13 PM (bheOt)

128 Mattis does not support waterboarding.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

That was never a DoD thing anyways, it was CIA only.
Posted by: MadDog Best Friend

The US Government should not be involved. A few retired warrant officers working for an obscure contractor to the KCiA, should on a boat pulling lazy 8s in the Southern Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (jxxzr)

129 *Cassandras all over the place*

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 01:59 PM (mf5HN)

Would that be "Cassandra" as in Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson, Malevolent One?

Because I'd pay to see that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

130
USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) is pier side following an engineering casualty the ship suffered transiting the Panama Canal, U.S. Navy officials told USNI News on Monday.

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup
The ship lost propulsion in its port shaft during the transit and the crew saw water intrusion in two of the four bearings that connect to Zumwalt’s port and starboard Advanced Induction Motors (AIMs) to the drive shafts, a defense official told USNI News on Tuesday. The AIMs are the massive electrical motors that are driven by the ship’s gas turbines and in turn electrically power the ship’s systems and drive the shafts.

Both of the shafts locked during the passage and the transit had to be completed with tugs. The ship made minor contact with lock walls in the canal resulting in minor cosmetic damage. Following the transit, the Navy determined the ship couldn’t continue to its new homeport at Naval Station San Diego without additional repairs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (IqV8l)

131 He's got credentials. Tons of 'em. More medals than a South American generalissimo.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (JBggj)

I always wondered about all the medals. They never fight wars; what exactly do they get medals for? Having shiny shoes? Good mustaches? What?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (SRKgf)

132 The last federal budget was signed by George W. Bush in 2007. Barky's entire presidency never ever saw a Barky budget.

Harry Reid killed every attempt to pass a budget, and that infuriated me. Then in 2014, Republicans won both houses of congress and I thought "finally we'll get a budget."

But no, they just kept doing it, and stopped pretending they wanted one. Reason 19381274 why i despise the Republican Party. I expect no better from Democrats.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (39g3+)

133 Kelly Ayotte is not getting a job with Trump.

I guess it's back to morning shifts at the Pink Pussycat for her.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:15 PM (X6fMO)

134 >>So there's Dave Brat, and, um, well, geez, help me out here.

Mo Brooks.

And this will never get old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMa-_fd0E0Q

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:15 PM (/tuJf)

135 Mattis does not support waterboarding.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

---

any word on acidboarding?
Posted by: buzzsaw90

How about drawing & quartering?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:15 PM (4RRDi)

136 I suspect Mattis prefers shooting as opposed to waterboarding. Quicker and more efficient.

Posted by: PabloD at November 22, 2016 02:15 PM (pGvPP)

137 I yield to no man in assessing Paul Krugman a d*ckhead, but we really should not be getting too excited about using the markets as a metric of the economic health of the country. The Fed has destroyed market price discovery for going on thirty years now with two very nasty bubble bursts resulting. We are somewhere near the end of the road leading to the third nasty financial crash--and this time there will be nobody to bail out the central bankers. Krugman may well end up longing again for the alien beings to show up: this time with spaceship money--since the helicopter money has failed.

Let's all enjoy Krugman sprouting yet another a**hole for himself without accepting market performance as either a positive or negative reflection on governance. The only thing the markets have reflected since Greenspan is a complete corruption of economic reality.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at November 22, 2016 02:15 PM (d/r2I)

138 Did you expect accurate information from a former Enron advisor?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (hLRSq)

139 15 Of course what's going to suck is when Obama is out of office we're going to have to start dealing with real numbers. "

That's what happened in '81, when Reagan took over Carter's mess. Things got worse in '81 and '82 and of course, suddenly you saw hobos pushing grocery carts loaded with shit down the street all the time on the evening news.

And then things got better - but the MSM tried to make it sound like only the 1% was benefiting. Ordinary Americans are living in their rusted out Chevys while Nancy Reagan buys new china!

Americans knew they were benefiting though; hence the '84 landslide.

May history repeat itself.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (u0lmX)

140 I always wondered about all the medals. They never fight wars; what exactly do they get medals for? Having shiny shoes? Good mustaches? What?

Duh! Sharp creases!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (4RRDi)

141 I just hope this imbecile follows his own investment advice.

He would soon know the luxury of cardboard housing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (b/kAv)

142 What's the point of the USS Zumwalt.

Wouldn't a sub be superior at nearly all the same tasks, cost less and have proven reliability, and be even stealthier.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (SIY7D)

143 "USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) is pier side following an engineering casualty
the ship suffered transiting the Panama Canal, U.S. Navy officials told
USNI News on Monday."

One of the Stated Key Rationales for the DDG-1000 class was to have a return of naval gunfire support along and beyond hostile shorelines.

Hence the Zumwalts. (Which are "destroyers" the size of WWII pocket battleships, costing as much money as a Nimitz-class nuclear powered aircraft carrier.) The DDG-1000s were somehow supposed to get close in to shore without being destroyed, and then use their ultra super duper new gun armament to lob accurate smart projectiles well inland.

It has turned out that the shells for the guns are costing over eight hundred thousand dollars each. A visibly embarrassed Big Navy establishment has had to cancel the procurement.

Maybe we should just buy actual elephants instead and paint them white. We could use them for something afterwards, like circus acts. Oh, wait, no, that's now considered inhumane and politically incorrect. I can never keep up.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:16 PM (noWW6)

144 120 Krugman looks at weather forecasters with the green light of envy glowing in his tiny peabrained eyes.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 22, 2016 02:11 PM (b/kAv)

And thinks, "I shoulda become a climastrologist. Then you can make all sorts of half-assed but utterly certain predictions about how things will be a century from now, and not worry about being proven wrong."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:17 PM (SRKgf)

145
any word on acidboarding?
------------------
Super effective. Bigly.
Posted by: Moron Pundit

You could do it in Jellystone park.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:17 PM (IqV8l)

146 Krugman is like a meteorologist without a thermometer, a barometer, a Doppler or any other instrument who is never allowed outside. Useless, in other words. Nobel winner, just like O'Bumbles.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 22, 2016 02:17 PM (zllbf)

147 Mattis does not support waterboarding.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
==================

That's not his thing. His thing is reluctantly calling in a fire mission.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2016 02:17 PM (JBggj)

148 Why are people like krudman, duh-grasse, and bill neit given any credibility and platforms to voice inane "stuff?"

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)-deplorable gobsmacked rage-monkey staying alive, ahhhh! at November 22, 2016 02:17 PM (JNDQi)

149 That's what happened in '81, when Reagan took over Carter's mess. Things got worse in '81 and '82 and of course, suddenly you saw hobos pushing grocery carts loaded with shit down the street all the time on the evening news.

Reagan did a good job laying out what the Carter years did to us, but back then so did the press. They actually ran stories on unemployment, inflation, malaise, economic misery, homelessness, etc when Carter was in office. They learned their lesson: criticize a Democrat about the economy and Republicans can win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)

150 When California exits, they can have their own new currency;

the Krugmanerand.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 22, 2016 02:18 PM (TqXWc)

151 I always wondered about all the medals. They never fight wars; what
exactly do they get medals for? Having shiny shoes? Good mustaches?
What?

https://youtu.be/S71n_RFyjeg (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 22, 2016 02:18 PM (YEelc)

152 The liberals started their bitchfest back circa 2004 after Bush was reelected. First it was "Selected, not elected." Then "Bush lied, people died". They whined continually like babies without bottles until Obama was elected. Dissent, as per Hilary, was the highest form of patriotism while Bush walked the earth.

Then Obama was elected. Nothing could go wrong. Suddenly, the earth was healed and dissent was "RACIST!"

So here we are. The hissyfits and whinefest will continue unabated until a Democrat is once again President. Then all will be well while he or she is in office.

Posted by: RM at November 22, 2016 02:18 PM (U3LtS)

153 Would that be "Cassandra" as in Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson, Malevolent One?

Because I'd pay to see that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

Well, not originally, but I will accept that substitution.

I do believe I have proven my bona fides on that topic to the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (mf5HN)

154 getting too excited about using the markets as a metric of the economic health of the country.

Trump getting 300+ electoral votes is the only metric you need.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (jxxzr)

155
Maybe we should just buy actual elephants instead and paint them white. We could use them for something afterwards, like circus acts. Oh, wait, no, that's now considered inhumane and politically incorrect. I can never keep up.
Posted by: torquewrench

Deploy them with General Hannibal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (IqV8l)

156 Can anyone tell me where, exactly, the Constitution calls for the Federal Govt to operate a big bank to guarantee mortgages ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (RKJF2)

157 I agree with Primordial ... there could be very difficult times ahead. But it's good, at least the market so far responded well. Certainly we are better off with "America First" Trump, a business guy in charge. We can move away from globalizing everything, including the currency.

"Market fundamentalism is Dead" (so called "free trade") ... and we can go back to Hamilton, "nation first" trade.

www.prosperousamerica.org/the_waterloo_of_market_fundamentalism

Maybe if all the money goes into actual shovel ready projects, instead of the friends of Obama pockets, there might be some of that genuine stimulus. But we still carry a load of debt and unfunded obligations. The stock market isn't everything though, private sector economic activity counts a lot.

In Trump We (must) Trust

Posted by: illiniwek at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (LhGBu)

158 >>I suspect Mattis prefers shooting as opposed to waterboarding. Quicker and more efficient.

I don't think you're going to see that as much as capturing and sending to GITMO which Obama never closed.

One of the biggest mistakes Obama made in the various wars was not capturing jihadis and getting intel because he didn't want to send anyone to GITMO.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)

159 114 Mattis does not support waterboarding.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
That was never a DoD thing anyways, it was CIA only.
Posted by: MadDog Best Friend or Worse Enemy at November 22, 2016 02:10 PM (7N6ox)

You're sure it wasn't the US Fish & Game Department?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (SRKgf)

160 but we really should not be getting too excited about using the markets as a metric of the economic health of the country.

Right, the stock market is crap as an indicator of anything but stupid investors. But Krugman is acting like a retard and this proves it even more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)

161 21
Krugman is the short version of the economics professor in the movie Back to School. That must make Trump Rodney Dangerfield.

The economy is poised for a Triple Lindy.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (zllbf)

162 Krugman is a fake economist

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (Om16U)

163 It's gonna be a tough 58 days.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 02:20 PM (5OK42)

164 One of the biggest mistakes Obama made in the various wars was not capturing jihadis and getting intel because he didn't want to send anyone to GITMO.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)

Not even Hillary?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:20 PM (SRKgf)

165 In the meantime, someone should sock Krugman saying "Turn Those Machines Back On..."

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 02:20 PM (5OK42)

166 I'm not even close to being tired of winning yet.

'Cause, you know, Hillary Clinton will NEVER be President.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 22, 2016 02:21 PM (e2Rx3)

167 Why is it that when prices go up, that's inflation and it's bad. But when stock prices go up, it's good?

I just figure that's where all the money they printed for the last 8 years has gone.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 22, 2016 02:21 PM (h/uSM)

168 Solution there, it seems to me, is to create recoverable markets.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at November 22, 2016 02:21 PM (2Mnv1)

169 >>Not even Hillary?

Clearly.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:22 PM (/tuJf)

170 To me the stock market is as predictable as horse track betting. Both have their forms to study of past performance and both are moved by emotion and rumor.

Everyone eventually loses unless they have the inside scoop, very conservative or just lucky .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 02:22 PM (lrKc+)

171 Jay, as far as I can tell, in Pakistan we've just been droning whoever the ISI tells us is a terrorist and hoping it averages out to true more than half the time.

The drone shit is good for providing the illusion of actually fighting a "war on terror."

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 02:22 PM (5OK42)

172 Just think how it must have killed Krugman's soul to have to acknowledge that Trump was going to be President.

Me likey.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:22 PM (SRKgf)

173 Krugman's next story will be about how the low unemployment numbers aren't real because people gave up looking for work once Trump was elected and they gave up on hope.

Posted by: GregV61 at November 22, 2016 02:23 PM (H0lcY)

174
156 Can anyone tell me where, exactly, the Constitution calls for the Federal Govt to operate a big bank to guarantee mortgages ?
Posted by: ScoggDog

It's in the non-binding preamble. It's what they meant by 'general welfare'.

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 02:23 PM (jxxzr)

175 He was great in the Odd couple and that episode of The Twilight Zone he was in was Epic. Besides, Ben Affleck is not Gay!

Posted by: Matt Damon at November 22, 2016 02:23 PM (of67s)

176 Still not tired of stories like these. Nope.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 02:23 PM (uHcnA)

177 Chicago to Remain Sanctuary City (fake news)

Calling illegal alien criminal gangs "a time-honored part of our city's culture," Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced that "we will remain a sanctuary city regardless of whatever opposition a President Trump might express to our policy."

For his part, President-Elect Trump has pledged to deport or incarcerate the estimated two million illegal aliens in the country who have criminal records. Given that Chicago suffers from dozens of gang-related shootings every month it would seem that removing criminal aliens from the mix might lessen the carnage.

Emanuel was having none of this, though, calling the apparent salutary objective of deporting the worst of the worst "a camouflage for the real aim of deporting prospective Democrat voters. I think that most Latinos are willing to accept a few casualties as a reasonable price to pay for the gains that can be attained from being granted an electoral franchise."

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (e8kgV)

178 So, the mayor of Portland, Oregon called for a rally called "A March of Hope" and invited the "Portland Resistance" (what the infantile tantrum-throwers are calling themselves) to join along with them.

The "resistance" refused and planned a counter-protest against hope, presumably.

So the march has been canceled.

No word yet on what these idiots are saying they are resisting against. Other than Democracy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (39g3+)

179 9 - you answer your own question: progressivism is a mental illness, and yes, they constantly get things wrong, day in and day out, because they are insulated from reality and consequences by borrowing money from our children and the productive class while they fling poo and point fingers.

Posted by: Just another commentor at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (R4059)

180 Everyone eventually loses unless they have the inside scoop, very conservative or just lucky .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 02:22 PM (lrKc+)

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That's about the stupidest thing Ive ever seen posted here.

Unless youre channeling your inner Krugman. Sometimes the sarcasm is hard to detect.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (8XRCm)

181
Why is it that when prices go up, that's inflation and it's bad. But when stock prices go up, it's good?

Why is it that when housing prices go up and people can't afford to buy houses it's bad but when housing prices go down it's also bad?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (IqV8l)

182 Wenda, if you're here - today's roadkill report for my 10-mile roundtrip errands run: 2 foxes, 1 turkey buzzard, 1 squirrel, 1 deer.

At least the deer was whole, this time.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (uHcnA)

183 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (39g3+)

+++

I'm lost here.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (CFc5L)

184 >>Can anyone tell me where, exactly, the Constitution calls for the Federal Govt to operate a big bank to guarantee mortgages ?

You have to go see Hamilton. They will rapslain it to you.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (/tuJf)

185 Krugman really should shave that shit off his fat fucking face.

Posted by: Killer-Gobsmacked Rage Monkey-dog at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (6HZn7)

186 "It has turned out that the shells for the guns are costing over eight hundred thousand dollars each. A visibly embarrassed Big Navy establishment has had to cancel the procurement."

That's insane.

Back in the day we had $1,000 toilet seats in federal military procurement. I thought things like this were padded bills to create a slush fund for the super duper secret stuff.

Else we got hosed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (SIY7D)

187 173 Krugman's next story will be about how the low unemployment numbers aren't real because people gave up looking for work once Trump was elected and they gave up on hope.
Posted by: GregV61 at November 22, 2016 02:23 PM (H0lcY)

Someone once characterized poker as a game in which the players each act on their perception of reality, with the winner being the one whose perception comes closest to the truth.

This is one of the problems with leftists; their perception of reality is so warped that they can convince themselves of anything, because most of the time they're not even within hailing distance of reality.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (SRKgf)

188 Just think how it must have killed Krugman's soul to have to acknowledge that Trump was going to be President.

-----

Point of order.

Paul Krugman has no soul.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (8XRCm)

189 a camouflage for the real aim of deporting prospective Democrat voters

Usually, they aren't that honest about how they get illegals to vote and the purpose of immigration.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (39g3+)

190 I do believe I have proven my bona fides on that topic to the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:19 PM

Indeed. Bigly.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (kDUMP)

191
Just as I thought, a gang of rightwing primitives after my neck. Well, the joke's on you -- I don't have a neck.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Former Enron Advisor at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (/f6Nd)

192 Former Enron Adviser, Paul Krugman, Inexplicable Nobel Prize Winner and Distinguished Professor of Being Wrong All the Time.

Just wanted that all in one paragraph.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 22, 2016 02:27 PM (VdICR)

193 Well, if you needed any confirmation that Dow Jones guy was racist, you need look no further.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2016 02:27 PM (tewYv)

194 >>>>>What's the point of the USS Zumwalt.

Wouldn't a sub be superior at nearly all the same tasks, cost less and have proven reliability, and be even stealthier.
.
.
.
.It pretty much embodies every single high tech concept that the Navy has wanted to try for years, all on one boat, and all at one time. Stupid to try all of that experimental technology all at once on one platform, but there it is .

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 02:27 PM (iONHu)

195 I'd suggest the Trump team start publicizing real economic data, not the twisted and spun and massaged numbers we've been getting. Correct the numbers and straight up data for the last 4 or more years. Real unemployment, real growth/recession, real inflation etc.

Well, if anyone can, it's Trump. I like that his plan for his first 100 days was released on YouTube, and not on any of the networks.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (kff5f)

196 Trump needs to cut the capital gains tax cut in half, and we'll see an economic renaissance such as the world has ever known.

Then he needs to capture Krugman and have him put in stocks in front of the White House with a ball-gag in his idiot mouth.

Posted by: Sharkman, Polish American at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (CS7jF)

197 WAAAAYY late to the party but I'd like to point out that Bill Kristol, #nevertrump extraordinaire, was also an Enron adviser.

Posted by: Alex #11 at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (EUMt/)

198 And just watch - every time, Melania buys an outfit or shoes or something that costs more than what you can buy off the rack at Macy's, we'll hear all about what it costs and how extravagant she is, although Mooch and Hill were gushed over for wearing hideous $10,000 rags.

The template is already set there - she'll be presented as a cross between Marie Antoinette and Zsa Zsa Gabor in "Green Acres." And won't the worldly sophisticates have fun mocking her accent!

"She sure do talk funny! Like a furringer!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (u0lmX)

199 The trolls are sooooooooo quiet.

But I know they're reading.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Posted by: Mega at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (ULxqW)

200
that episode of The Twilight Zone he was in was Epic.

A Game of Pool
or
In Praise of Pip
?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (IqV8l)

201 Why is it that when prices go up, that's inflation and it's bad. But when stock prices go up, it's good?

Why is it that when housing prices go up and people can't afford to buy houses it's bad but when housing prices go down it's also bad?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (IqV8l)

Why is it when the dollar is strong the MSM bleat about how that hurts exports (which it does, of course), but when it's weak, they bleat about how it's harder for Americans to afford foreign goods and vacations?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (SRKgf)

202 Bona Fides

I've never heard of twins with those names before.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (pyZce)

203 He should've received a Nobel Peace Prize for consistently being wrong as well. Although, Joltin' Joe Biden would give him a run for his money.

Posted by: Very Irredeemably Undude at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (2X7pN)

204 Bubbles happen in finance all the time. Even if you're confident you've spotted one, it can be tricky to time when the bubble will burst.

The US has lots of economic imbalances, but what can save our ass is that most of the rest of the World sucks more.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (SIY7D)

205 Of course what's going to suck is when Obama is out of office we're going to have to start dealing with real numbers.

And then of course there is after 8 years of Wall Street doing well being the indication of a great economy to being Wall Street is the only section of the economy doing well and everyone else is suffering.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 22, 2016 01:52 PM (JPkzo)

Yep. Suddenly the media will have stories of unemployment, homelessness, rain, bad knees, and general suckitude. It'll be like they took a vacation during the preceding 8 years.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at November 22, 2016 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

Yes, like the real numbers that will be revealed after 8 years of no formal, passed national budget. What a nightmare.

Posted by: Sharkman, Polish American at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (CS7jF)

206
I have no idea how Krugman earned a Nobel Prize in Economics.

I have an economics degree. What Paul Krugman preaches is NOT economics.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (8XRCm)

207 Then he needs to capture Krugman and have him put in stocks in front of the White House with a ball-gag in his idiot mouth.

Posted by: Sharkman, Polish American at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (CS7jF)

And have a stand selling rotten fruit so onlookers can pelt Krugman.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (SRKgf)

208 Off, Kielbasa Sock!

Posted by: Sharkman at November 22, 2016 02:30 PM (CS7jF)

209 The template is already set there - she'll be presented as a cross between Marie Antoinette and Zsa Zsa Gabor in "Green Acres." And won't the worldly sophisticates have fun mocking her accent!

"She sure do talk funny! Like a furringer!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (u0lmX)

I am not tired of winning yet, but I do SO want to hear Melania say once, just once, "Oliver! The hotscakes are ready!"

Just to get it out of our system.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2016 02:30 PM (tewYv)

210 Y'know if the navy wanted a boat that could do shore bombardment on a bigly scale they could always pull some of the Iowa class BBs out of retirement. Would have been cheaper than the Zumwalt...

Posted by: Jackal at November 22, 2016 02:30 PM (DUQuX)

211 185 Krugman really should shave that shit off his fat fucking face.
Posted by: Killer-Gobsmacked Rage Monkey-dog at November 22, 2016 02:25 PM (6HZn7)

Could burn it off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (SRKgf)

212
That's insane.

Back in the day we had $1,000 toilet seats in federal military procurement. I thought things like this were padded bills to create a slush fund for the super duper secret stuff.

Else we got hosed.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 22, 2016 02:26 PM (SIY7D)

ID4 - "You didn't think we really paid $25,000 for a hammer, did you?"

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN)

213
What's a hotscake??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (8XRCm)

214

As near as I can tell, Paul Krugerrand is just Robert Reichstag on stilts.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (gxc9K)

215 >>>The trolls are sooooooooo quiet.
But I know they're reading.<<<

That's because the trolls are fully aware that Krugtron is a nasty little shit.

Posted by: Fritz at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (2Mnv1)

216 196, Then he needs to capture Krugman and have him put in stocks in front of the White House with a ball-gag in his idiot mouth.

Posted by: Sharkman, Polish American at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (CS7jF)

Ohhhh! Can we pelt him with rotten vegetables??

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (a0IVu)

217 Beware the beanie baby bubble.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (IqV8l)

218 What's a hotscake??
...
Another term for Bona Fides.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (1H9ox)

219 What's a hotscake??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (8XRCm)

Seriously? The clue is in the quoted part - Green Acres!

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (tewYv)

220 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)

221 And have a stand selling rotten fruit so onlookers can pelt Krugman.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:29 PM (SRKgf)

Or, even better, since we are a bunch of rage monkeys, selling rubber medical gloves and bags of shit.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (CS7jF)

222 Good Yellin' Clouds, today.

Moving just slw enough to really give'm a piece of your mind.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2016 02:33 PM (pyZce)

223
Remember.

Hillary Rodham Clinton will never be President.

Ever.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:34 PM (8XRCm)

224 another good article specific to this.

"why does the Krugman Problem matter?
Because he's not just a prominent thinker, he's an example of an entire class of people who know, on technical substance, that free trade is harming the US right now, but refuse to speak up about it because of their attachment to globalism"

www.prosperousamerica.org/the_paul_krugman_problem_and_why_it_matters

Posted by: illiniwek at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (LhGBu)

225 220 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)

Those little assholes that run along the walls. Hope that helps.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

226
What's a hotscake??
Posted by: fixerupper

https://youtu.be/d6DBMxYTT4Y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (IqV8l)

227 "Wouldn't a sub be superior at nearly all the same tasks, cost less and have proven reliability, and be even stealthier."

Quite.

Several of the _Ohio_ class SSBNs have had their Trident strategic nuclear ballistic missiles removed, and been converted to SSGN, with tactical conventional cruise missiles.

A *whole lot* of cruise missiles, because those things are much smaller than a Trident D5.

It is a rare example of sensible procurement policy.

Only one problem. Clowngress and the five-sided loony bin on the Potomac have, between them, managed to create a situation where there aren't adequate numbers of cruise missiles available any longer.

So maybe those converted _Ohios_ can go stick up a periscope threateningly. Don't mess with us!

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (noWW6)

228 213
What's a hotscake?

I think it's a Russian pick-up line.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (TqXWc)

229 It must be nice to be so well compensated for being so demonstrably wrong on everything.

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

230 Three hours of Mise en Place, entailing 5 lbs of Russet and 5 lbs of Yukon Gold potatoes (peeled, quartered), 4 lbs of carrots (peeled, finely julienned), 4 lbs of sweet potatoes (peeled, diced), 5 large leeks (finely julienned), 3 whole beef tenderloins trimmed and tied, all vacuum packed and ready for the big day.

Thanksgiving is an exercise in time management.

Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (Zs4uk)

231 Maggie Haberman
Clean air is vitally important Trump says about climate change Says he is keeping an open mind

Goody.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (/tuJf)

232 O/T Rush saying no matter what Trump and the NYT discuss, no matter what anybody think gets "settled" between them, that The Times will never relent in their quest to deligitimize him, to destroy him, to advocate for his impeachment, and that every day, every single day, they will pitch "news," opinion pieces, pieces in every section, toward this end.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (U6f54)

233 Willowed from the Trump not prosecuting thread because I began to watch a documentary gone viral 2 days ago.

540 I'm positive that gotcha question to Kelly Anne Conway was in response to this video that is too going viral posted two days ago connecting the dots of the DNC, DC Elite, Clinton Foundation,Podesta emails, with child porn and pedophilia and child trafficking
This names names and provides pictures (totally art is what the DC bubble calls them) DC is run by radical feminists and pedophiles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MNpB6c4dANo

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (P5U01)

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (P5U01)

234 22 "It'll be like they took a vacation during the preceding 8 years."

No they were hard at work, lying to us.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (qjlOR)

235 Can anyone tell me where, exactly, the Constitution calls for the Federal Govt to operate a big bank to guarantee mortgages ?

It is in the good and plenty clause where it says 'to promote the general welfare'; a loop hole large enough to cover any conceivable idea and even the inconceivable ones.

Posted by: Douglas Felger at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (BTDN/)

236 177----Emanuel was having none of this, though, calling the apparent salutary objective of deporting the worst of the worst "a camouflage for the real aim of deporting prospective Democrat voters. I think that most Latinos are willing to accept a few casualties as a reasonable price to pay for the gains that can be attained from being granted an electoral franchise."
Posted by: undocumented SMOD at November 22, 2016 02:24 PM (e8kgV)
-------------------------------------
Wow. It's all about Dem voters, of course, but they usually don't come right out and say it.

And he is also openly admitting that the main victims of the illegal criminals are Latinos, that THEY are the ones who are going to have to "accept a few casualties."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 22, 2016 02:37 PM (Nox3c)

237 Paul Krugman... never heard of him.

Former Enron adviser Paul Krugman... now him I know real well.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 22, 2016 02:37 PM (QrBXe)

238 232 O/T Rush saying no matter what Trump and the NYT discuss, no matter what anybody think gets "settled" between them, that The Times will never relent in their quest to deligitimize him, to destroy him, to advocate for his impeachment, and that every day, every single day, they will pitch "news," opinion pieces, pieces in every section, toward this end.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 22, 2016 02:36 PM (U6f54)

=================

Well, let's hope that Trump isn't susceptible to flattery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 22, 2016 02:37 PM (bheOt)

239 ...re: USS Zumwalt vs. the "warthog"-the Zumwalt looked amazing steaming (whirring) out of Bath Me. The fact it couldn't basically drive around the corner? The warthog? slow and "fugly"; everyone from pilots to ground troops luv 'em-guess which one gets cancelled?

Posted by: pahound at November 22, 2016 02:38 PM (uM7AD)

240 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)
----------------

Well, mice do that, but something tells me that's not what you're looking for.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 02:38 PM (uHcnA)

241 I used to think it was a sweet gig for a baseball player to only need to succeed 30% of the time to be a legend.

But Krugman is batting zero and still draws a paycheck.

I'm in the wrong industry.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 02:39 PM (xeeHA)

242 "Y'know if the navy wanted a boat that could do shore bombardment on a
bigly scale they could always pull some of the Iowa class BBs out of
retirement."

The high-tech Zumwalt guns would purportedly shoot 58 miles. However, modernized projectiles out of the Iowa class 16-inch guns would go over 100 miles. With modifications to the Iowas' handling and loading systems, 250 miles.

The real problem with the Iowas is propulsion. The modern Navy is all gas turbines and nuclear reactors. There's no one left who can run an antique engine room reliant on high pressure steam.

(Nor should anyone want to. Horrifying things happen when live steam busts loose. I'd rather be at close quarters with a nice safe well behaved nuke reactor.)

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:39 PM (noWW6)

243 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it
at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now.
Help from the Horde!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)

Geckos? Lizards?

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 02:40 PM (a0IVu)

244 What's a hotscake??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:31 PM (8XRCm)

Bukake in a hot weather setting?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 22, 2016 02:41 PM (42Mgr)

245 240 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)
----------------

Parkour. Now, stay off my damn wall.

Posted by: some old guy at November 22, 2016 02:41 PM (QrBXe)

246 242 "Y'know if the navy wanted a boat that could do shore bombardment on a
bigly scale they could always pull some of the Iowa class BBs out of
retirement."

The high-tech Zumwalt guns would purportedly shoot 58 miles. However, modernized projectiles out of the Iowa class 16-inch guns would go over 100 miles. With modifications to the Iowas' handling and loading systems, 250 miles.

The real problem with the Iowas is propulsion. The modern Navy is all gas turbines and nuclear reactors. There's no one left who can run an antique engine room reliant on high pressure steam.

(Nor should anyone want to. Horrifying things happen when live steam busts loose. I'd rather be at close quarters with a nice safe well behaved nuke reactor.)
Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:39 PM (noWW6)

Second look at the Surcouf?

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2016 02:41 PM (7HtZB)

247 @242

But the Zumwalt bullets are $800k a pop. You can buy serious missiles for that.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 22, 2016 02:41 PM (jsWA8)

248 "215 >>>The trolls are sooooooooo quiet.
But I know they're reading.

Latest poll has Hillary up 5 in Florida. Sorry, but it looks like Trump is finished.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at November 22, 2016 02:42 PM (OD2ni)

249 Esteem?

Self esteem?

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 22, 2016 02:43 PM (tQvps)

250 Is Paul Krugman the Bill Wynn of economics? Or is Bill Wynn the Paul Krugman of Horde trolls?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 22, 2016 02:43 PM (KUaJL)

251 The warthog? slow and "fugly"; everyone from pilots to ground troops luv 'em-guess which one gets cancelled?

Posted by: pahound at November 22, 2016 02:38 PM (uM7AD)

In my dream, Trump announces that all of the profits from his business empire will be deposited immediately into a trust that will fund three things:

1. The A-10, in perpetuity;

2. College scholarships for needy kids that depends only on test scores and need, not on race or any other criteria; and,

3. The Southern border fence.

Then he renames the Department of Defense to The Department of War, closes down the Federal Department of Education, and gives the head of the INS job to Joe Arapaio.

Schadenboner status: Perpetual.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (CS7jF)

252 " There's no one left who can run an antique engine room reliant on high pressure steam. "

AIIIIIIIYYYEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: That Chinese Guy in The Sand Pebbles at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (SIY7D)

253 Actually, based on the way they talk, I think there's a nonzero chance that Paul Krugman IS Bill Wynn. Has anyone ever seen the two of them in a room together?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (KUaJL)

254 Ok, so about #pizzagate, ny times is running a story that Comet Pizza is NOT a child-trafficking site and it is all Fake News!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hscfwd6

I dunno, if the NYT is vouching for them then the odds just went up that they're guilty, imo.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (Om16U)

255 The template is already set there - she'll be presented as a cross between Marie Antoinette and Zsa Zsa Gabor in "Green Acres." And won't the worldly sophisticates have fun mocking her accent!

"She sure do talk funny! Like a furringer!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:28 PM (u0lmX)

I keep saying SNL is going to try to get Aykroyd and Martin to bring back the Festrunk Brothers, with Melania as their dumb-as-rocks cum dumpster sister. I am a wild and crazy gal!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (X6fMO)

256 There's no one left who can run an antique engine room reliant on high pressure steam.

?

Nukes are basically steam generators.

Posted by: what am I missing? at November 22, 2016 02:45 PM (2WoCi)

257 Yeesh, You'd think someone who was wrong about so much, so many times would learn to keep his mouth shut. But then again...Liberal.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 22, 2016 02:45 PM (NpXoL)

258 The high-tech Zumwalt guns would purportedly shoot 58 miles. However, modernized projectiles out of the Iowa class 16-inch guns would go over 100 miles. With modifications to the Iowas' handling and loading systems, 250 miles.

Watch Battleship. Serious woody when they light up the Mighty Mo. Makes you proud to be an American.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:45 PM (4RRDi)

259 225 220 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:32 PM (SRKgf)
Those little assholes that run along the walls. Hope that helps.
Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at November 22, 2016 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

I knew I could count on the Horde.

I'm looking for the adjective, not the species. There's an adjective (like "nocturnal" for animals that are active at night) for animals (such as rats) that for choice run right next to walls and such, rather than out in the open.

Ack! It's on the tip of my tongue, but I can't remember it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:46 PM (SRKgf)

260 Watch Battleship. Serious woody when they light up the Mighty Mo. Makes you proud to be an American.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:45 PM (4RRDi)

-----

Set to the most perfect soundtrack too.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

261 >>>1. The A-10, in perpetuity;

2. College scholarships for needy kids that depends only on test scores and need, not on race or any other criteria; and,

3. The Southern border fence.

"...and the seized assets of the Clinton Global Initiative are gonna pay for it."

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (Bdeb0)

262 With a nuke plant you still have steam driving the main engines and turbine generators.

Posted by: Catwrangler at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (L62jT)

263 The Big Guns make an appearance in Mel's Hacksaw Ridge. You even have the Captain calling in a strike on his own position.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (SIY7D)

264 Melania, sitting next to Mooch at WH, sings "Green Acres":

"New York is the place for me,
I get allergic smelling 'b'
I just adore a penthouse view,
I love you, Don, but give me Park Avenue."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (u0lmX)

265 "...and the seized assets of the Clinton Global Initiative are gonna pay for it."

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (Bdeb0)

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 22, 2016 02:47 PM (CS7jF)

266 254 Ok, so about #pizzagate, ny times is running a story that Comet Pizza is NOT a child-trafficking site and it is all Fake News!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hscfwd6

I dunno, if the NYT is vouching for them then the odds just went up that they're guilty, imo.
Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (Om16U)

You really want to get into the weeds with pizzagate? The police sketches of the suspects in the abduction of Madeline McCann are dead ringers for Jon Podesta & his brother.
http://tinyurl.com/jrl6q9f

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2016 02:48 PM (7HtZB)

267 >>I'm looking for the adjective, not the species. There's an adjective (like "nocturnal" for animals that are active at night) for animals (such as rats) that for choice run right next to walls and such, rather than out in the open.

weasel?

Look at the fucking squirrel weaseling.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:49 PM (/tuJf)

268 I hope PE Trump nominates Gen Mattis before Thanksgiving

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2016 02:49 PM (EbeEQ)

269 225 220 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?

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wannabe wetbacks?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (h/uSM)

270 "Nukes are basically steam generators."

The loop is simpler and smaller, the volumes and pressures are lower.

Actually, for a while there, long long long before the _Zumwalt_ was even conceived of, turboelectric drive was The New Hotness in battleship propulsion.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (noWW6)

271 Don't partake of your own product, Paul.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (QQ+il)

272 StefanMolyneux
22/11/16 14:24
Twelve years of government education and some people believe that the President of the United States actually prosecutes criminals.

about Trump saying "HE" won't Prosecute FAB

Posted by: Evilpens at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (y3aQB)

273 "250 Is Paul Krugman the Bill Wynn of economics? Or is Bill Wynn the Paul Krugman of Horde trolls?"

I'm a lifelong Republican as you know. I am also a longtime lurker on this site and totally not a paid troll that just showed up just before election day to push bad polls and negative stories. I think its hilarious when people say Ace is a Wookie.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (OD2ni)

274 I don't like the Krugs but the Krugs likes me.
I don't like the Krugs, the Krugs, the Krugs!

Posted by: Marilyn Manson at November 22, 2016 02:51 PM (mBYZv)

275 Posted by: Sharkman at November 22, 2016 02:44 PM (CS7jF)

There is no reason the newly elected Republican president, along with the Republican House and Senate, can't make dramatic changes in the first hundred days.

I'd recommend a purge of the federal bureaucracy, starting with the top management of the VA and the IRS. Those 'middle managers' who gave themselves bonuses by falsifying records and allowing sick veterans to die by neglect? Not just fire but arrest them.Those IRS department heads who targeted conservative groups? Not just fire but arrest them.

Put the fear of God into those weasellyscumbags. Let them know they are no longer safe. Then we'll see real results.

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 02:52 PM (OGbEB)

276 Fence stickers.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 02:52 PM (CFc5L)

277 Orientation by physical contact, such as animals running alongside walls, is thigmotaxis, if that helps.

Posted by: Botec at November 22, 2016 02:53 PM (kttUW)

278 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?

It's a type of weasel.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 02:53 PM (WlGX+)

279 268
I hope PE Trump nominates Gen Mattis before Thanksgiving

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2016 02:49 PM (EbeEQ)
Me too. I keep waiting for the announcement.

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 02:53 PM (a0IVu)

280 >>OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?

Ninjas.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2016 02:53 PM (pyZce)

281 So, Paul Krugman is basically a "respected" weatherman/ phone psychic?

Becuase both have the same reliability that he does.

/oh, to have a job where you can be wrong EVERY DAY and still remain employed!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (0sm03)

282 Watch Battleship. Serious woody when they light up the Mighty Mo. Makes you proud to be an American.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 02:45 PM (4RRDi)

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Set to the most perfect soundtrack too.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 22, 2016 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

It brings a tear to the eye, it does.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (mf5HN)

283 oops; sock off!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (0sm03)

284 The only reason Krugman is where he is, is his lifetime of unswerving adherence to the Party Line.

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (VmIEt)

285 "The DOW went down a total of 80 points in the course of the day and up a total of 105 for a net +25.

All of the down bit was Trump's fault and the up bit was because Obama is still President.

If you had a Nobel prize you'd recognize this."

Why is the two biggest a$$holes I've ever heard of have Nobel Prizes?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (kfcYC)

286 A lot of the market is psychological. The Kruggernaut was probably trying to bring the market down with his forecast. But he overestimated his clout to be able to do such a thing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (mBYZv)

287 220 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?

Sheetrockers maybe.

Posted by: Killer-Gobsmacked Rage Monkey-dog at November 22, 2016 02:55 PM (6HZn7)

288 DJIA over 19,000 again! Oh yeah!

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (a0IVu)

289 Melania, sitting next to Mooch at WH, sings "Green Acres":

"New York is the place for me,
I get allergic smelling 'b'
I just adore a penthouse view,
I love you, Don, but give me Park Avenue."
...
I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing "Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing (who I only know because of this recent thing with Susan Sarandon...who I only know because I love Bull Durham). Aaaaannnnyway...it is awesome. Trump is wearing bibs and a straw hat. The chick could barely contain herself from laughing when he showed up.
I watched it about 12 times in a row.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (1H9ox)

290 You really want to get into the weeds with pizzagate? The police sketches of the suspects in the abduction of Madeline McCann are dead ringers for Jon Podesta & his brother.

You wanna' get depressed ? They could have video of Podesta, Abedin, Mills, The Obamas and the Clintons preparing and then feasting on Fillet 'o' McCann before having a group orgy with the local middle school.

Third of the country would say the film was faked by the Koch Bros. Small group would praise their bold lifestyle choice. Another third would have no idea what happened. MSM would embargo the story. MeAgain would invite Geraldo on to discuss the questionable timing of the whole affair.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (RKJF2)

291 Why is the two biggest a$$holes I've ever heard of have Nobel Prizes?
....
I agree. It is obviously a good old boys club because I didn't even get nominated.

Posted by: Hope Solo at November 22, 2016 02:57 PM (1H9ox)

292 Shep having multiple orgasm on TV over Fredo about to give out Medal of Freedom to a rogues gallery of Left wingers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 22, 2016 02:57 PM (EbeEQ)

293 >>OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?

Parkourakeet

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2016 02:58 PM (pyZce)

294 blech. Obama about to have yet another liberal spooge fest at the White House giving out awards to his favorite liberal entertainers.

Good thing there are no pressing issues to deal with.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 02:58 PM (/tuJf)

295 what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls?
...
Undocumented migrants is the proper term. Animals is dehumanizing.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:58 PM (1H9ox)

296 Bluebell,

Wow, I'm impressed.

We have friends from Scotland who come over to MT to ski every year. They say their deer problem is worse than ours. Hard to believe when I'm looking at four in my front garden munching away. The law there is you cannot take your own road kill, but you can take somebody else's. So when you hit a deer, which is apparently inevitable, you call all your friends to come and butcher it! And they reciprocate.

Thanks for passing on today's tally.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 22, 2016 02:59 PM (pZEKq)

297 277 Orientation by physical contact, such as animals running alongside walls, is thigmotaxis, if that helps.
Posted by: Botec at November 22, 2016 02:53 PM (kttUW)

That's it! Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 02:59 PM (SRKgf)

298 blech. Obama about to have yet another liberal spooge fest at the White House giving out awards to his favorite liberal entertainers.

The unimpressive honoring the unworthy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 02:59 PM (QQ+il)

299 Paul Krugman?

Fuck that gut in particular.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at November 22, 2016 03:00 PM (R5EqA)

300 OT: what's the word for animals that tend to run along walls? I knew it at one point, but trying to remember it is driving me crazy right now. Help from the Horde!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Mexicans.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 22, 2016 03:00 PM (yuzpV)

301 No prosecution of Hillary and to top that Trump now says he believes in AGW.

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 22, 2016 03:00 PM (sFh0N)

302 I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing "Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing

Megan Mullally.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:00 PM (4RRDi)

303 Apparently there is a Norwegian Pedo ring that was busted this year.
Something about "dark room"

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 22, 2016 03:00 PM (Om16U)

304 272 StefanMolyneux
22/11/16 14:24
Twelve years of government education and some people believe that the President of the United States actually prosecutes criminals.

about Trump saying "HE" won't Prosecute FAB
Posted by: Evilpens at November 22, 2016 02:50 PM (y3aQB)

This is interesting follow-up by the head of Judical Watch on with Charles Payne at 6pm tonight to discuss the non prosecuting of the Clinton Emails and Foundation.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (P5U01)

305 Fuck that *guy* in particular.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (R5EqA)

306 Hillary is thigmotaxic.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (1H9ox)

307 Trump now down over 1.7 Millions in the popular vote. Experts say there aren't enough votes left for him to possibly make up that deficit!

Posted by: Bill Winn at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (h/uSM)

308 I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing "Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing (who I only know because of this recent thing with Susan Sarandon...who I only know because I love Bull Durham). Aaaaannnnyway...it is awesome. Trump is wearing bibs and a straw hat. The chick could barely contain herself from laughing when he showed up.
I watched it about 12 times in a row.
Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (1H9ox)

https://youtu.be/AiZqFGLAeAc

You're welcome

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (z/Ubi)

309 305 Fuck that *guy* in particular.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (R5EqA)

===

Gut was good too.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (CFc5L)

310 Game over, man! Game over.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 03:02 PM (QQ+il)

311 I'm too busy with my Chamber of Commerce connections to read upthread. Oh, and Hillary is up +4.

Posted by: Will Bynn at November 22, 2016 03:02 PM (RD7QR)

312 Ok, so retrofit steam turbines to the BBs. Yeah, lot of engineering and some drydock time. Betcha it would STILL be cheaper than the Zumwalt class. Plus: BATTLESHIPS!!! Park one off Bandar Abbas whenever the Iranians get cranky and watch them shut up...

Posted by: Jackal at November 22, 2016 03:02 PM (DUQuX)

313 306 Hillary is thigmotaxic.
Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (1H9ox)

Don't you mean Hillary is thighmotoxic?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 03:03 PM (SRKgf)

314 Twelve years of government education and some people believe that the President of the United States actually prosecutes criminals.

about Trump saying "HE" won't Prosecute FAB
Posted by: Evilpens

He may not. But we DO know that if he doesn't want someone prosecuted, the DOJ won't.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:04 PM (4RRDi)

315 282: That scene is reason enough to see that movie IMHO. Made me wish I had seen it in theaters.

Posted by: Jackal at November 22, 2016 03:04 PM (DUQuX)

316 Kelly Ayotte is not getting a job with Trump.
................

I wouldn't grab that with gloves on.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (HgMAr)

317 "307 Trump now down over 1.7 Millions in the popular vote. Experts say there aren't enough votes left for him to possibly make up that deficit!

Posted by: Bill Winn"

Agree. I think it will be an early night. We should have nominated Jeb.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (OD2ni)

318 Iowa with a big dorsal particle beam and a warp drive?

Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (jxxzr)

319 308 I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing "Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing (who I only know because of this recent thing with Susan Sarandon...who I only know because I love Bull Durham). Aaaaannnnyway...it is awesome. Trump is wearing bibs and a straw hat. The chick could barely contain herself from laughing when he showed up.
I watched it about 12 times in a row.
Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (1H9ox)

I'll wait until I get home.

I take it it was from the days when Hollywood liked Trump.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (u0lmX)

320 >>This is interesting follow-up by the head of Judical Watch on with Charles Payne at 6pm tonight to discuss the non prosecuting of the Clinton Emails and Foundation.

Not as interesting as the Breitbart headline this morning that said Trump had broken his promise by not wishing to pursue charges against Hillary.

It seems to be down now. Perhaps Bannon found it bad optics.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (/tuJf)

321 Why is the two biggest a$$holes I've ever heard of have Nobel Prizes?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (kfcYC)
==========================

Dylan might not be a complete asshole. On the other hand, he did give that song to Peter, Paul and Mary.

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (dFi94)

322 1
You forgot 'Paul Krugman, former Enron advisor'.

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 01:48 PM (Enq6K)

DAMN IT! You beat me too it!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2016 03:06 PM (NbJXF)

323 Krugman? He pray Oscah Madison on Odd Couple wit Tony Landall.

Posted by: that asian guy who talks that way at November 22, 2016 03:06 PM (mBYZv)

324 I think there are going to be study groups forming around "Trumpology" in different countries as they try to get an idea how he will react. Sort of like the old Kremlinology and likely as accurate. Instead of 'who stands in what place on Lenin's tomb for the parade" it will be "the Golden Scalp Weasel points north with the wind from the east."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

325 I'd recommend a purge of the federal bureaucracy

This'd be the time to do it, too, what with the strong Obama economy and all. Easy to get back on your feet.

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2016 03:07 PM (2z74n)

326 I'll wait until I get home.

I take it it was from the days when Hollywood liked Trump.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (u0lmX)

Yeah I linked it above. Its at least 10 years old.

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2016 03:07 PM (z/Ubi)

327 "316 Kelly Ayotte is not getting a job with Trump.
................

I wouldn't grab that with gloves on."

Google image her doing the ice bucket challenge in a t-shirt. You may change your mind.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 22, 2016 03:07 PM (OD2ni)

328 I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing
"Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the
drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (dFi94)

329 One thing about leftists, they never tire of the taste of their own ass.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable & Profoundly Unserious at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (cOHS7)

330 Instead of 'who stands in what place on Lenin's tomb for the parade"

it will be "the Golden Scalp Weasel points north with the wind from the east."

The chair is against the wall.
John has a long mustache.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (4RRDi)

331 307
Trump now down over 1.7 Millions in the popular vote. Experts say there
aren't enough votes left for him to possibly make up that deficit!

Posted by: Bill Winn at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (h/uSM)

AND? Hillary will join President Gore for a vacation in Siberia?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (NbJXF)

332 I let the radio stay on after Rush and Hannity is on. Was going to turn it off but in this hour, he is only having lefty callers on, who he says, need a blankie, or cocoa, or coloring books.

Might be fun.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (hvf9s)

333 Of course what's going to suck is when Obama is out of office we're going to have to start dealing with real numbers.

I hope they make a point of that: start with real numbers and then get to work.

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (2z74n)

334 >>324
I think there are going to be study groups forming around "Trumpology"
in different countries as they try to get an idea how he will react.Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

The William Faulkner Society is soliciting abstracts on the impact of "authoritarian" aspects of Trump(ism) for its next conference. Zod is no longer a member.

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)

335 Wenda, I wish people would eat their roadkill here - there's so much of it this time of year. You'd never guess we are right outside DC with the wildlife.

One time when my kids were young we were coming back from somewhere and were stopped at a red light. There was a pickup in front of us and one of the kids said, "Hey look, there's a deer in there! Must be a hunter." I looked and realized there were lots of deer in there, hooves pointing every which way. It was the county roadkill pickup.

I saw your note about the Williamsburg novels, but I've never heard of them. I'll have to look them up! Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:09 PM (uHcnA)

336 The girl who's announcing the medal of freedom awards doesn't speak English.

She couldn't pronounce Robert Redford or Bruce Springsteen.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 03:09 PM (mgbwf)

337 I have to admit, if I knew having Trump was going to be this much fun, I would have voted for him in the primary.

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (dFi94)

338 292: the medal of freedom is really a crackerjack prize now. meaningless. hell, give shep one too.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (KP5rU)

339 The Squirrels in Chicago have turned mussie

""Suicide bomber"squirrel hospitalizes Chicago politician who spoke out against squirrels"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hf9avbu

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (tf9Ne)

340 morbidly playing with life expectancy tables you can work out that the

Chance all justices survive through 2017 =75%
Chance all justices survive through 2018 =55%
Chance all justices survive through 2019 =38%
Chance all justices survive through 2020 =26%

warms my cold heart it does

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (h/uSM)

341 @328

This is what Trump is going to do to Putin?

http://tinyurl.com/zv7y9h2

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 22, 2016 03:11 PM (NbJXF)

342 266 254 Ok, so about #pizzagate, ny times is running a story that Comet Pizza is NOT a child-trafficking site and it is all Fake News!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hscfwd

You really want to get into the weeds with pizzagate? The police sketches of the suspects in the abduction of Madeline McCann are dead ringers for Jon Podesta & his brother.
http://tinyurl.com/jrl6q9f

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2016 02:48 PM (

Almost 2 hour documentary about the DC Elite and DNC pedophile ring. David Brock's boyfriend owns Comet Pizza and that place is shady as Fuck with pictures of children. DC is run by radical feminists and pedophiles and Old Testiment Evil.

Judge with your own eyes. Arrests should be made asap. Connections are clear enough for an investigation. It's not art and it's not religion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MNpB6c4dANo

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:11 PM (P5U01)

343
Krugman always reminds me of a garden gnome for some reason.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 22, 2016 03:11 PM (OZmbA)

344 307

Trump now down over 1.7 Millions in the popular vote. Experts say there

aren't enough votes left for him to possibly make up that deficit!

Posted by: Bill Winn at November 22, 2016 03:01 PM (h/uSM)

Someone pointed out yesterday that California and New York were responsible for Hillary being up several million in the popular vote.

It'd be funny if the House withheld hundreds of Billions of funds to those two states and used it to pay down Obama's debt....for the children.....

and because elections have consequences....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 03:12 PM (5KPFy)

345 How long until Hillary! comes back with a beard talking about climate change?

My money's on the coldest day of winter.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (xeeHA)

346 "Krugman always reminds me of a garden gnome for some reason."

An evil garden gnome from the Old Forest.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (hLRSq)

347 "morbidly playing with life expectancy tables"

If Ruth Baader-Meinhof passes away, how can you tell?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (noWW6)

348 Judge with your own eyes. Arrests should be made
asap. Connections are clear enough for an investigation. It's not art
and it's not religion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MNpB6c4dANo

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:11 PM (P5U01)
==========================

I'm just going to have to take your word on that because there is no way I'm clicking on that link.

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (dFi94)

349 Even the ice couldn't get her nipples hard.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (HgMAr)

350 Huma, release my chakra!

Posted by: Hillary at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (QQ+il)

351 312 Ok, so retrofit steam turbines to the BBs. Yeah, lot of engineering and some drydock time. Betcha it would STILL be cheaper than the Zumwalt class. Plus: BATTLESHIPS!!! Park one off Bandar Abbas whenever the Iranians get cranky and watch them shut up...
Posted by: Jackal at November 22, 2016 03:02 PM (DUQuX)

They were steam turbine from the beginning.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (R5EqA)

352 Re; Green Acres skit. Donald Trump was a good looking man in the day and can have an engaging sense of humor (I found "Sorry to keep you waiting, Complicated business" which he said after he won the election an amusing turn of phrase. I think he has the ability to make fun of himself, even if he is sometimes very thin skinned He's certainly very energetic . I would find living with someone who appears to be so excessively extroverted exhausting, however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (tOcW/)

353 >>> I saw your note about the Williamsburg novels, but I've never heard of them. I'll have to look them up! Thank you.

I just checked into AOS after a yuuuuge meeting. What books are these? Sound interesting.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (hvf9s)

354
Guess what? Something finally hit me. The media bunch called us racist when we disagreed with Obama's policies.

They're already calling us racist because we voted for DT. They're calling us racist because of his adviser and cabinet picks.

And they will continue calling us racist. No. Matter. What.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (OZmbA)

355 I wonder what the mood is like with the traders on the floor? Excited? Euphoric?

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (a0IVu)

356 Not as interesting as the Breitbart headline this morning that said Trump had broken his promise by not wishing to pursue charges against Hillary.

It seems to be down now. Perhaps Bannon found it bad optics.

Posted by: JackStraw

Or perhaps it was horseshit.

@nytimes 47m
Trump says "no" when asked if he is taking investigations off the table for the Clintons, @maggieNYT says.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 03:15 PM (Yg871)

357 I would find living with someone who appears to be so excessively extroverted exhausting, however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (tOcW/)
===================================

Welcome to my world. It's like living with a priest on crack.

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:15 PM (dFi94)

358 >>> ""Suicide bomber"squirrel hospitalizes Chicago politician who spoke out against squirrels" http://preview.tinyurl.com/hf9avbu Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (tf9Ne)

Monkeys gone wild, squirrels gone wild...if the dophins suddenly all leave we'll know something is afoot.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:16 PM (hvf9s)

359 Paul Krugman Got His Degree In Being Wrong All the Time

Hasn't everyone?

Posted by: The Entire Media at November 22, 2016 03:16 PM (2z74n)

360 The Party of Science!

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at November 22, 2016 03:16 PM (jNamR)

361 The Krugtron, wrong again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:17 PM (gMFC1)

362 I am told this is a story covering the pedo ring that was busted just recently in Norway.
It is in Norwegian

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hrzd6km

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (Om16U)

363 I just checked into AOS after a yuuuuge meeting. What books are these? Sound interesting.
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (hvf9s)
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It was on one of the weekend threads, I think it was the food thread although Wenda was talking about books. I think we got there by talking about Plimouth Plantation and then Williamsburg. You know, those direct paths that happen here, lol.

It sounds like they were children's books that she read when she was young.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (uHcnA)

364 I let the radio stay on after Rush and Hannity is on. Was going to turn it off but in this hour, he is only having lefty callers on, who he says, need a blankie, or cocoa, or coloring books.

Might be fun.
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (hvf9s)

To be fair, I would like cocoa and a coloring book.

OMG FUCK YOU TREE RATS! I SEE YOU SITTING IN THE TREE STARING AT ME WITH YOUR WEE BEADY EYES! LIKE THE COLONEL YOUR EYES ARE!

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

365 347 "morbidly playing with life expectancy tables"

If Ruth Baader-Meinhof passes away, how can you tell?

---

Maybe the gates of Mordor will fall

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (h/uSM)

366 349 Even the ice couldn't get her nipples hard.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (HgMAr)

Great nic.

*back to writing*

Posted by: Schadenboner! at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (ZKlDy)

367 320 >>This is interesting follow-up by the head of Judical Watch on with Charles Payne at 6pm tonight to discuss the non prosecuting of the Clinton Emails and Foundation.

Not as interesting as the Breitbart headline this morning that said Trump had broken his promise by not wishing to pursue charges against Hillary.

It seems to be down now. Perhaps Bannon found it bad optics.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (/

Yeah that's what I was referring to because apparently Musical Watch is piased.

Dovetail that with Trump telling the NY Times he disavowed all elements of the alt-right and said he wants to investigate them and roots.

One term president for blowing up his base that worked for free to get him elected on social media and the internet and for making laws seperate for politicians and we the deplorables.

Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

368 338 292: the medal of freedom is really a crackerjack prize now. meaningless. hell, give shep one too.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 22, 2016 03:10 PM (KP5rU)

Shep would look fabulous stuffed up Barky's ass, Krugman would fit too!

Posted by: Killer-Gobsmacked Rage Monkey-dog at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (6HZn7)

369 308 I don't know how to do the linky thing, but do yourself a favor and Bing "Trump sings green acres". He sings it with the lady who played the drunk chick on that gay show with Debra Messing (who I only know because of this recent thing with Susan Sarandon...who I only know because I love Bull Durham). Aaaaannnnyway...it is awesome. Trump is wearing bibs and a straw hat. The chick could barely contain herself from laughing when he showed up.
I watched it about 12 times in a row.
Posted by: ajmojo at November 22, 2016 02:56 PM (1H9ox)

Here ya go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (SRKgf)

370 If Ruth Baader-Meinhof passes away, how can you tell?

The glasses finally slip off her face?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (gMFC1)

371 >>>Even the ice couldn't get her nipples hard.
Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 22, 2016 03:13 PM (HgMAr)

You have to alternate with the mouth.

Oh, and WINONA!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (5rnuB)

372 >>I found "Sorry to keep you waiting, Complicated business" which he said after he won the election an amusing turn of phrase. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (tOcW/)

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's very sly, and I've watched that bit several times, chuckling each time. It's as though beating all comers, as a beginner in the game, was merely closing a real estate deal that got just a little bit complicated. If he'd winked when he said it, that would've made the nut.

Good stuff.

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (Bdeb0)

373 I would find living with someone who appears to be so excessively extroverted exhausting, however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:14 PM (tOcW/)
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You know what, he may not be like that in private. People tend to think that both my husband and I are extroverts, which we are to some degree, but we are both pretty introverted and laid back at home. In those personality test thingies we both come out even on the extrovert/introvert part.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (uHcnA)

374 >>Or perhaps it was horseshit.

Perhaps. Perhaps you might want to read Maggie Haberstram's twitter timeline that contains multiple quotes from Trump himself on the topic.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (/tuJf)

375 Ok, so retrofit steam turbines to the BBs. Yeah, lot of engineering and some drydock time. Betcha it would STILL be cheaper than the Zumwalt class. Plus: BATTLESHIPS!!! Park one off Bandar Abbas whenever the Iranians get cranky and watch them shut up...

That's the point of battleships. I miss them.

And no, we don't need $800K guided munitions. You point nine 16" guns at a shoreline and it changes attitudes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (mgbwf)

376 Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:15 PM (dFi94)

LOL. Well we tend to make allowances for those we love. :^) The first pastor I had and who helped me tremendously in the ordination process used to do two services and then go out and do a service at the nursing home and come back and go give communion. He was extroverted off the chart. He's now about 28 years older and when I see him he says, "I've slowed down." Unlike Donald he's probably not tweeting at 5:00 in the morning so I guess Rev. Mr. Winger may slow down a little too with age.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:21 PM (tOcW/)

377
Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

Uuuhm... what about 'Outside'?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:21 PM (ZKlDy)

378 >>Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him. Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

You might want to pace yourself, cousin. I have a feeling you're going to be disappointed a lot...

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (Bdeb0)

379 I smell Gelfling!

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (QQ+il)

380 318 Iowa with a big dorsal particle beam and a warp drive?
Posted by: Jean at November 22, 2016 03:05 PM (jxxzr)

It's been done

Posted by: Space Battleship Yamato at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (7HtZB)

381 314 Twelve years of government education and some people believe that the President of the United States actually prosecutes criminals.

Well, he's being pedantic. We all know the DOJ picks their fights at the behest of the POTUS.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (WlGX+)

382 Uuuhm... what about 'Outside'?
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It is dangerous and full of terrors.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (xeeHA)

383 Well, I've got $20 in Kohls cash I have to use up before going to the other house for the holidays. I'm hoping to find one nice outfit per grandbaby, but my expectations are low. Kohls doesn't have the greatest kids clothes, I don't think. We'll see. I'll get some sort of crap for someone. See you later!

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 22, 2016 03:23 PM (dFi94)

384 356 Not as interesting as the Breitbart headline this morning that said Trump had broken his promise by not wishing to pursue charges against Hillary.

It seems to be down now. Perhaps Bannon found it bad optics.

Posted by: JackStraw

Or perhaps it was horseshit.

@nytimes 47m
Trump says "no" when asked if he is taking investigations off the table for the Clintons, @maggieNYT says.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 03:15 PM (Yg871)

Well that blow back did not take long to hit Trump from sites like Brietbart, The Conservative Tree House, Reddit, and 4chan pol/ which they monitor

Wonder how long before he walks back disavowing the alt-right and investigations into their hatred.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:23 PM (P5U01)

385 So absolutely convinced that he knows everything.

Completely incapable of accepting evidence to the contrary.

His ego's desire to make himself the master of the world, requires him to live in a fantasy world, since that's the only world he can master.

Posted by: simplemind at November 22, 2016 03:23 PM (xVRrG)

386
OMG FUCK YOU TREE RATS! I SEE YOU SITTING IN THE TREE STARING AT ME WITH YOUR WEE BEADY EYES! LIKE THE COLONEL YOUR EYES ARE!
Posted by: alexthechick
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Just don't go on any bike rides!

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 22, 2016 03:24 PM (yuzpV)

387 >>> It was on one of the weekend threads, I think it was the food thread although Wenda was talking about books. I think we got there by talking about Plimouth Plantation and then Williamsburg. You know, those direct paths that happen here, lol.
It sounds like they were children's books that she read when she was young. Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:18 PM (uHcnA)

Nice. I love those kind of threads! Will have to go back and look.

I LOVED the American Girl Dolls as a kid; I will never forgive Mattel for buying Pleasant Company, and then happily destroy the franchise by adding all the custom dolls that fight global warming or whatever, while discontinuing the historical ones.

Felicity, the revolutionary war girl that lived in Williamsburg, had awesome extras, including a cooking book with recipes from the era! I still have that, I should dust it off and use some of them for Christmas. Will add extra cheer.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:24 PM (hvf9s)

388 Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (uHcnA)

I understand. People in the church think I'm a extrovert but I'm really just as introvert who can function as an extrovert and then after being with people for a long period of time I have to recover by being by myself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:25 PM (tOcW/)

389 Bluebell and LizLem,

The Williamsburg novels follow a Virginia family from pre-Revolutionary War on. At some point they develop an English branch, so the story continues through WWI and WWII. The author is Elswyth Thane, married to William Beebe, so sometimes listed as Elswyth Beebe. Begins with DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT. I think very well researched but don't hit you over the head with it.

As I said to Bluebell, I came upon them when I was a kid in MT, and they formed my idea of what the world should be. But since it was fiction, it never occurred to me that William and Mary was real! Imagine spending all your daydreams in a place like Williamsburg and then discovering it actually existed.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 22, 2016 03:26 PM (pZEKq)

390 Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (Bdeb0)

Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:26 PM (tOcW/)

391 382 Uuuhm... what about 'Outside'?
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It is dangerous and full of terrors.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (xeeHA)

WORD.

*checks locked doors and windows, pulls blinds, activates boobie traps, releases attack kitties*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:26 PM (ZKlDy)

392 378 >>Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him. Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

You might want to pace yourself, cousin. I have a feeling you're going to be disappointed a lot...

Posted by: General Zod at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (

Considering he told the NYT that he disavows and said he will investigate his alt-right base who got him elected. I'd say he is fucked.

He does not want to get on the wrong side of white hat hackers, 4chan conservative autists, and others.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (P5U01)

393 Oh my, LizLem, you must be one of the ones that is actually really 29 here, lol. American Girl dolls didn't come out until after I got out of college!

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (uHcnA)

394 388 Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:20 PM (uHcnA)

I understand. People in the church think I'm a extrovert but I'm really just as introvert who can function as an extrovert and then after being with people for a long period of time I have to recover by being by myself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:25 PM (tOcW/)

Nobody's a pure extrovert or pure introvert.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

395 or coloring books.

Might be fun.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (hvf9s)

For any artistic morons out there, I was researching adult coloring books on Amazon and if you're reasonably talented, you can bring in some nice extra cash there. The best selling adult coloring books actually have swear words in them.

My idea, if I was talented enough, would be "Life sucks, then you color..."

Feel free to use it.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (5KPFy)

396 Krugman is to economics what Matt Yglesias is to explanatory journalism.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (mBYZv)

397 Perhaps you might want to read Maggie Haberstram's twitter timeline that contains multiple quotes from Trump himself on the topic.

Posted by: JackStraw

Sure, or I could, you know, calm the fuck down and wait until he is actually president before I set my hair on fire.

Either or.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (Yg871)

398 One can only hope he takes his own investment advice.

Honestly, only in politics and punditry can you trade utter failure for upward mobility.

Posted by: red speck at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (RcEOo)

399 396 Krugman is to economics what Matt Yglesias is to explanatory journalism.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (mBYZv)

He does have a better wardrobe, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (0mRoj)

400 The sticky problem with upgrading an Iowa class battleship's power plant is having to cut through all the armor decks for about half the ship's length. The engineering spaces on any dreadnaught is one of the most heavily protected areas.

Then once you get the new bits installed, putting all that back together again. Not a trivial piece of work.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:29 PM (gMFC1)

401 PS re Williamsburg novels: they're not really kids books, I found them in my parents' bookshelves. They run 300-400 pages per.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 22, 2016 03:29 PM (pZEKq)

402 398 One can only hope he takes his own investment advice.

Honestly, only in politics and punditry can you trade utter failure for upward mobility.
Posted by: red speck at November 22, 2016 03:28 PM (RcEOo)

I have no idea what you mean.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at November 22, 2016 03:29 PM (0mRoj)

403 Dow Jones on track to close > 19,000!

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 03:29 PM (a0IVu)

404 Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

I agree; I do, think though think they tend to favor one side more than the other-sometimes strongly so. I had the take the Myers-Briggs Personality Profile several times in the ministry. I went from being on the introverted side to being on the cusp of I/E.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:30 PM (tOcW/)

405 But since it was fiction, it never occurred to me that William and Mary was real! Imagine spending all your daydreams in a place like Williamsburg and then discovering it actually existed.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 22, 2016 03:26 PM (pZEKq)
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Ha - it's real, and it's fabulous! I had a philosophy class in the Wren building. Tour groups would come by all the time.

My favorite thing was when I would be running down DoG Street (Duke of Gloucester), and tourists would ask me if I was a college student, and if it was a private girls' school. They always seemed a little disappointed that it was a co-ed public school.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:30 PM (uHcnA)

406 I smell Gelfling!

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (QQ+il)

Points for obscure Dark Crystalreference. Zombie Jim Hensen approves.

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:30 PM (OGbEB)

407 Trump gets elected by law and order and allies with we the deplorables and irredeemables. Uses the pro American Alt Right to do his work.

Turns around and sets fire to that bridge.

Fucking A.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (P5U01)

408 >>Sure, or I could, you know, calm the fuck down and wait until he is actually president before I set my hair on fire.

Very true., you can light your hair on fire whenever. Personally, I find lighting ones hair on fire counter productive at any time.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (/tuJf)

409 So, we all know the MFM are lying liars who lie. By all means, let's then immediately trust everything the MFM says.

Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (WlGX+)

410 Considering he told the NYT that he disavows and said he will
investigate his alt-right base who got him elected. I'd say he is
fucked.

He does not want to get on the wrong side of white hat hackers, 4chan conservative autists, and others.

He disavowed the dipshits giving Nazi salutes and saying "Heil Trump".

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (YEelc)

411 Uuuhm... what about 'Outside'?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:21 PM (ZKlDy)

BLESSED MOTHER GAIA IS A STONE COLD KILLER IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUTSIDE!

ALSO IT'S YOU KNOW OUT THERE *waves paw* WHERE IT'S ALL OUTSIDEY

For the record, I am allowed to use all the caps because these are the ones I've taken from other people over the years so there.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

412 One can always spot the most deluded by their use of the title, "Dr Krugman."

Posted by: spike at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (Azcpm)

413 He disavowed the dipshits giving Nazi salutes and saying "Heil Trump".

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (YEelc)

Democrats.....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (5KPFy)

414
Honestly, only in politics and punditry can you trade utter failure for upward mobility.
Posted by: red speck
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And the public education system. But I guess that falls under politics...

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (yuzpV)

415 >>> Oh my, LizLem, you must be one of the ones that is actually really 29 here, lol. American Girl dolls didn't come out until after I got out of college!
Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (uHcnA)

Ha I'm not THAT young Bluebell, but yeah I'm youngish. I was veering on the older edge of the market for the dolls, but I've always loved historical fiction. I got the books of all the different girls and some of the companion books. There is a teacher's guide that goes along with the Felicity books that has a brilliantly illustrated map of Colonial Williamsburg.

Wenda, I'm excited to read the books!! So glad I checked in here just at the right time to see that.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (hvf9s)

416 404 Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

I agree; I do, think though think they tend to favor one side more than the other-sometimes strongly so. I had the take the Myers-Briggs Personality Profile several times in the ministry. I went from being on the introverted side to being on the cusp of I/E.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:30 PM (tOcW/)

Oh sure, I don't disagree with that. I also think learned behavior may change where you are on the continuum somewhat as well, although the manner in which you recharge will likely remain the same.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (0mRoj)

417 @336, she also mispronounced "Elouise" for the Indian activist chick who won, posthumously.

Posted by: sunny-dee at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (QAOZh)

418 I dunno guys, Hillary is up 74 in the latest Monmouth poll, I think Trump is finished

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:33 PM (39g3+)

419 And also Cicely Tyson, or should I say "Sizzly" Tyson.

Posted by: sunny-dee at November 22, 2016 03:33 PM (QAOZh)

420 alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside

Outside - the highly underrated Bowie album? I'll listen to you about it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 03:33 PM (WlGX+)

421 406 I smell Gelfling!

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 22, 2016 03:22 PM (QQ+il)

Points for obscure Dark Crystalreference. Zombie Jim Hensen approves.
Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:30 PM (OGbEB)

I'm Skeksi and I know it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:33 PM (0mRoj)

422 395 or coloring books.

Might be fun.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:08 PM (hvf9s)

For any artistic morons out there, I was researching adult coloring books on Amazon and if you're reasonably talented, you can bring in some nice extra cash there. The best selling adult coloring books actually have swear words in them.

My idea, if I was talented enough, would be "Life sucks, then you color..."

Feel free to use it.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (5KPFy)

How do you make a coloring book? I want to be rich....Maybe something for cannibals? Like ya' know the 'steer' that shows where the cuts of meat come from? Only for cannibals...do i use Illustrator?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'future rich guy through his coloring book franchise for Cannibals' at November 22, 2016 03:34 PM (ZKlDy)

423 Capture their essence!!!!

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsberg at November 22, 2016 03:34 PM (39g3+)

424 What is this I see about Trump saying he will investigate the alt-right?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 22, 2016 03:34 PM (WuRdh)

425 414
Honestly, only in politics and punditry can you trade utter failure for upward mobility.
Posted by: red speck
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And the public education system. But I guess that falls under politics...
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (yuzpV)

Sometimes. Although the usual approach is the "Dance of the Lemons" where they shuffle their shitty teachers from one district to another to another.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:35 PM (0mRoj)

426 Space Battleship Yamato was equipped with a Wave Motion Engine that the smart monkeys on Earth figured a way to make it a weapon. Hence the Wave Motion Gun.

https://youtu.be/j733K7vvbyM

Yamato Hasshin!

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:35 PM (gMFC1)

427 Trump calls up family of slain policemen and offers condolences. Ofuckstick flounces around Europe congratulating himself. So far, Trump triumphs in my book.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 03:35 PM (CFc5L)

428 410 Considering he told the NYT that he disavows and said he will
investigate his alt-right base who got him elected. I'd say he is
fucked.

He does not want to get on the wrong side of white hat hackers, 4chan conservative autists, and others.

He disavowed the dipshits giving Nazi salutes and saying "Heil Trump".
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (YEelc)

Yup... it was the New York Times who took that question and categorized the Neo Nazis as Alt Right...

You know... the same NYT who Lies just about all the time in order to make Trump, and the Right, look bad...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 22, 2016 03:35 PM (qf6WZ)

429 BLESSED MOTHER GAIA IS A STONE COLD KILLER IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUTSIDE!

Posted by: alexthechick

I have seen you Outside.

It only bit you once.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (mgbwf)

430 >>> I understand. People in the church think I'm a extrovert but I'm really just as introvert who can function as an extrovert and then after being with people for a long period of time I have to recover by being by myself. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:25 PM (tOcW/)

Extroverted introvert probably fits me best. I HAVE to recharge my batteries alone, but I like hanging out with others. But the larger the group the more alone time I need after to recharge and decompress.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (hvf9s)

431 Considering he told the NYT that he disavows and said he will investigate his alt-right base who got him elected. I'd say he is fucked.

He does not want to get on the wrong side of white hat hackers, 4chan conservative autists, and others.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (P5U01)

Yes, Heaven forbid the President-Elect of the United States double-crosses those diabolical geniuses over at 4chan. He'd be in for it then, let me tell you and how.

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (OGbEB)

432 For any artistic morons out there, I was researching adult coloring books on Amazon and if you're reasonably talented, you can bring in some nice extra cash there.

I have seriously considered it. I might release a coloring book about my fantasy world setting for fun some time. I have a lot of very strange creatures in the world that could be interesting for people to color in.

Superheroes are kinda hot now too but I don't like the way modern costuming is done. I prefer old school stuff.

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsberg at November 22, 2016 03:37 PM (39g3+)

433 oh, to have a job where you can be wrong EVERY DAY and still remain employed!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (0sm03)

Good work if you can get it

Posted by: Jim Cramer at November 22, 2016 03:37 PM (Ya7zs)

434 Might be a good idea to not lend credence to anything the NYT says Trump said. I'll just wait for him to tweet his thoughts or make a you tube recording before getting my panties in a bunch.

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (a0IVu)

435 430 >>> I understand. People in the church think I'm a extrovert but I'm really just as introvert who can function as an extrovert and then after being with people for a long period of time I have to recover by being by myself. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:25 PM (tOcW/)

Extroverted introvert probably fits me best. I HAVE to recharge my batteries alone, but I like hanging out with others. But the larger the group the more alone time I need after to recharge and decompress.
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (hvf9s)

I'm somewhat similar. I enjoy hanging out one on one or in small groups, for a reasonable amount of time, but being in a large gathering stresses me out, even if I know the people.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (0mRoj)

436 What I don't understand is how Krugman can be so stupid as to make a public prediction like that. He had to know that there was a good chance that he would be wrong.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (+lVUW)

437 Space Battleship Yamato was equipped with a Wave Motion Engine that the smart monkeys on Earth figured a way to make it a weapon. Hence the Wave Motion Gun.

And yet the retards in Starfleet couldn't figure out how to weaponize the transporter, the most obvious weapon in the galaxy.

Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsberg at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (39g3+)

438 oh, to have a job where you can be wrong EVERY DAY and still remain employed!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (0sm03)

Good work if you can get it
Posted by: Jim Cramer

So true!
Posted by: TV Weathermen Everywhere!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (4RRDi)

439 Down goes the Ameriphobe.

Again.

Posted by: Bill Wynn's Frictionproofing at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (3myMJ)

440 >>> she also mispronounced "Elouise" for the Indian activist chick who won, posthumously.
Posted by: sunny-dee at November 22, 2016 03:32 PM (QAOZh)

The gal that did "Hints from Heloise" is an Indian? Huh!
And she's dead? Huh!
I hope Mary Worth's okay...
:::checks pages:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (5rnuB)

441 Off radical wizened judge sock

What I don't understand is how Krugman can be so stupid as to make a public prediction like that.

Why not? There's no price to pay. Nobody that he cares about will ever call him on it, his fans will ignore it, his job isn't at risk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)

442 411 Uuuhm... what about 'Outside'?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:21 PM (ZKlDy)

BLESSED MOTHER GAIA IS A STONE COLD KILLER IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUTSIDE!

ALSO IT'S YOU KNOW OUT THERE *waves paw* WHERE IT'S ALL OUTSIDEY

For the record, I am allowed to use all the caps because these are the ones I've taken from other people over the years so there.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

'I'm safe. All locked up, attack kitties on prowl'

*Sudden terrified look*

*throws open cupboard!*

'Shit!! Tequila!!!'

*Grabs crossbow*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'future rich guy through his coloring book franchise for Cannibals' at November 22, 2016 03:39 PM (ZKlDy)

443 And today, the Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed the 19,000 level for the first time in history, though it's edged back a bit off that record high.

But the Hollywood finance and stock market analyst Aaron Sorkin said this was UNPOSSIBLE!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:40 PM (Ya7zs)

444 Ok, let's get ready for another spaz-out

Trump adds Cuba embargo supporter to transition team

Ok E'RRYONE SPAZ NOW!~!!!! Or Don't.

Mebbe don't flop around on the floor if your diaper is full.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2016 03:40 PM (Yg871)

445 437 In Star Fleet Battles (the game) it was.Transporter bombs.You can't transport stuff through active shields though.

Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2016 03:40 PM (r/0kC)

446 And yet the retards in Starfleet couldn't figure out how to weaponize the transporter, the most obvious weapon in the galaxy.

In A Taste of Armageddon fusion bombs delivered by transporter were the simulated weapons, so they had thought about it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 03:40 PM (QQ+il)

447 I LOVED the American Girl Dolls as a kid; I will
never forgive Mattel for buying Pleasant Company, and then happily
destroy the franchise by adding all the custom dolls that fight global
warming or whatever, while discontinuing the historical ones.

Felicity, the revolutionary war girl that lived in Williamsburg, had
awesome extras, including a cooking book with recipes from the era! I
still have that, I should dust it off and use some of them for
Christmas. Will add extra cheer.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:24 PM (hvf9s)

Oh man do I feel old now!

I bought them when they came out.....for my daughter.
Must be time for my afternoon nap or something.....

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 03:40 PM (Enq6K)

448 OT

Yesterday after a church service-the priest came out and said, "Here's a trivia question, "Guess what happened to excite millions of peoples'' interest on November 20 1980?. I said, "I don't think the fact that I was in college was it". Apparently it was people tuning in to see who shot JR (But I didn't watch that program). I felt really old when a woman with three boys said, "Gosh; I was seven years old in 1980."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (tOcW/)

449 Old stinky sock off.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way. at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (3myMJ)

450 "crossed the 19,000 level for the first time in history"

Now it's what Obama did, not the Trump win.

Posted by: Paul "Never Right" Krugman at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (8b+oT)

451 The stock market will inevitably go down again, which will be proof, proof! That Trump is to blame, and the increase was love of Obama and his genius at handling the American economy with compassion for the disadvantaged and contempt for the 1%!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (39g3+)

452 438 oh, to have a job where you can be wrong EVERY DAY and still remain employed!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at November 22, 2016 02:54 PM (0sm03)

Good work if you can get it

Posted by: Jim Cramer

So true!

Posted by: TV Weathermen Everywhere!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:38 PM (4RRDi)

i swear to you, true fact. i had this same conversation about economists, psychologists and weatherman this very morning.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'future rich guy through his coloring book franchise for Cannibals' at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (ZKlDy)

453 And yet the retards in Starfleet couldn't figure out how to weaponize the transporter, the most obvious weapon in the galaxy.
---
Well they only get through shields when the writers say so, so it's not really battlefield reliable.

And Star Fleet has regs against turning your enemies into replicator rations.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (3Liv/)

454 Yup... it was the New York Times who took that question and categorized the Neo Nazis as Alt Right...

You know... the same NYT who Lies just about all the time in order to make Trump, and the Right, look bad...
Posted by: Don Q. at November 22, 2016 03:35 PM (qf6WZ)

Ummm, no. Alt Right was a term adopted by actual freaking Neo Nazis several years ago in an attempt to rebrand themselves. There is and has been for several years an actual white supremacist movement that adopted for itself the term Alt Right. It's not a new term and it's not a new movement and the actual Alt Right is to be condemned.

It is just as wrong to pretend that there are not those who call themselves the Alt Right who are actual Neo Nazis as it is to pretend that anyone to the right of Che is a part of the Alt Right and are Neo Nazis.

I comprehend why people don't trust the NYT on this, because the NYT is not to be trusted, but stop pretending that Richard Spencer a. doesn't exist and b. isn't a vile piece of work.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

455 Something that you will never see reported anywhere in the msm:

CAIR is reporting that Trump got 13% of the muslim vote, more than double what Romney got in 2012.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (iONHu)

456 I don't like outside either. I'll just stay right here where it's nice and cozy.

Posted by: Face Sized Spider Under AtCs Bed at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (kTF2Z)

457 *shoves a super jumbo sized peach Hate Shake through the Internets for the Empress*

Back to writing I go.

And Christopher Taylor, well yeah. Though Kirk tended to use it to beam problems off his ship. Or as Scotty said, "It was no tribble at all."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (gMFC1)

458 451 The stock market will inevitably go down again, which will be proof, proof! That Trump is to blame, and the increase was love of Obama and his genius at handling the American economy with compassion for the disadvantaged and contempt for the 1%!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (39g3+)

Stock market aside, I predict that the MFM will soon begin to report on the national debt, actual rates of inflation and actual unemployment rates in order to lay them at Trump's feet.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (0mRoj)

459 I felt really old when a woman with three boys said, "Gosh; I was seven years old in 1980."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (tOcW/)

20 November 1980? I had enlisted in the Army the day before. I was being yelled at by Drill Sergeants. Doing lots of push-ups.

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:43 PM (OGbEB)

460 >>Trump adds Cuba embargo supporter to transition team

>>Ok E'RRYONE SPAZ NOW!~!!!! Or Don't.

>>Mebbe don't flop around on the floor if your diaper is full.

Why would anyone be upset when Trump does what he says he's going to do? It's when he goes against one of his biggest campaign promises that people tend to get a bit pissed off.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:43 PM (/tuJf)

461 And Star Fleet has regs against turning your enemies into replicator rations.
Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (3Liv/)

Starfleet Green is people!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (0mRoj)

462 >>> Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:27 PM (P5U01)

I checked over at the Donald Reddit, which has an alt right slant, they seem to not be giving any time to the news about going after the alt right. I think he'll go after the heil white power loonies and leave the normal alt righters alone.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (hvf9s)

463 Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him. Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

Maybe wait for him to be sworn in and actually do - or not do - things before having a fit?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (hLRSq)

464 And yet the retards in Starfleet couldn't figure out how to weaponize the transporter, the most obvious weapon in the galaxy.
............

Really. They at least could have made give boob jobs to the females.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (HgMAr)

465 Nobody, but NOBODY puts ketchup on a Krugman in the corner, baby.

Posted by: guy wanderin' in from the previous thread at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (kVX3W)

466 450 "crossed the 19,000 level for the first time in history"

Now it's what Obama did, not the Trump win.

Posted by: Paul "Never Right" Krugman at November 22, 2016 03:41 PM (8b+oT)

..because the raging economy Obama set in motion BY HIMSELF THROUGH SHEERFORCE OF WILL AND GENIUS ECONOMIC POLICY.'

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'using his CAPS before AtC takes them' at November 22, 2016 03:45 PM (ZKlDy)

467 In A Taste of Armageddon fusion bombs delivered by transporter were the simulated weapons, so they had thought about it.

You can't transport stuff through active shields though.

You don't need to, and that "rule" is actually not very consistent. At different times you can transport through shields, but it messes things up and is unreliable.

You're flying around with a mass of antimatter in the ship. Transport a golfball sized piece through their shields and bye bye.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)

468 Yesterday after a church service-the priest came out and said, "Here's a trivia question, "Guess what happened to excite millions of peoples'' interest on November 20 1980?. I said, "I don't think the fact that I was in college was it". Apparently it was people tuning in to see who shot JR (But I didn't watch that program). I felt really old when a woman with three boys said, "Gosh; I was seven years old in 1980."

I never realized JR got capped on my 18th birthday.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:45 PM (4RRDi)

469 Closing in ten minutes and still no sell off. Going to be a record day for stocks, again.

Posted by: IC at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (a0IVu)

470 Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:43 PM (OGbEB)

O.K. You're old too. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (tOcW/)

471
..because the raging economy Obama set in motion BY HIMSELF THROUGH SHEERFORCE OF WILL AND GENIUS ECONOMIC POLICY.'
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'using his CAPS before AtC takes them' at November 22, 2016 03:45 PM (ZKlDy)
===

I bet you anything he can solve the T.V. Guide crossword puzzle.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (CFc5L)

472 Damn, you people are old!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (0mRoj)

473 You people are crazy if you think I'm going to put a freakin bomb on a transporter.

Posted by: eleven at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (qUNWi)

474 I have seen you Outside.

It only bit you once.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (mgbwf)

Er...I think I'd better come clean with you about this. It's not a virus, I'm afraid. You see, a virus is what we doctors call "very, very small". So small, it could not possibly have made off with the whole leg. What we're looking for here for is, I think - and this is no more than an educated guess, I'd like to make that clear - is some multicellular life form with stripes, huge razor-sharp teeth, about eleven feet long, and of the genus felis horribilis - what we doctors, in fact, call a tiger.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (tewYv)

475 If I was homeless I'd always vote for a Republican because the MSM can't seem to find any in a Democrat regime even though they are everywhere.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (Ya7zs)

476 Kirk did it in the episode "Obsession" to get rid of the vampire cloud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (gMFC1)

477 Fenelon

I watched the Army-McCarthy hearings on live TV. Talk about feeling old.

I remember thinking, "What a boring program. Why are the adults so interested?"

Posted by: mnw at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (VLEp3)

478 Extroverted introvert probably fits me best. I HAVE to recharge my batteries alone, but I like hanging out with others. But the larger the group the more alone time I need after to recharge and decompress.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (hvf9s)

Yeah, that's me too. I used to like big parties more than I do now.

A good prof I had in college explained the difference pretty well: Extroverts (and he put himself in that category) get energized by being around others. Introverts find being around others exhausting after a while. Which is not to say the extroverts are incapable of enjoying time alone or that introverts are incapable of being sociable. It's just not the habitat they thrive in.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (u0lmX)

479 Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (0mRoj)

Well-Get off my lawn!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (tOcW/)

480 >I comprehend why people don't trust the NYT on this, because the NYT is not to be trusted, but stop pretending that Richard Spencer a. doesn't exist and b. isn't a vile piece of work.
Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

I don't actually know who that is, but my only knowledge of 'alt right' is in relation to neo Nazi's so that tracks.

I didn't read the NY times article, but it's a hell of a thing to take a smallish number of genuine assholes and link them on the front page two weeks after an election to a huge group of people who obviously aren't them. So, NYTimes deserves any shit they get from trump at this point imo.

Posted by: Lea at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (lIU4e)

481 479 Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (0mRoj)

Well-Get off my lawn!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (tOcW/)

You have lawns in NJ?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (0mRoj)

482 Bluebell, how I envy you that college experience. You will find Dawn's Early Light amazing, and I envy you reading it for the first time.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (pZEKq)

483 I think he'll go after the heil white power loonies and leave the normal alt righters alone.
Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (hvf9s)

Now this is an interesting discussion. What does Alt Right mean now? Because when I hear/read Alt Right, I think Spencer and his loons who should be ignored. Seriously, ignore him and his followers and starve the movement of oxygen.

However, for many people it appears that Alt Right means Milo and Breitbart and what were called the South Park Republicans. That is a very different thing indeed.

Because, you see, I'm pretty sure the actual Neo Nazi Alt Right did not pick as their leader a flamboyant gay Catholic who is Jewish via his mother and who only bangs black guys. I'll go out on that limb.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (mf5HN)

484 I've thought about doing coloring books too; they are not hard if you know Illustrator. I hate the illustrations in most of them so it's hard to find ones I like, why not make my own?

I think finding a niche genre is a good idea, something geeky would be fun. Someone here could do a gun themed one with hunting, and pages where you color in the sniper!

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (hvf9s)

485 Er...I think I'd better come clean with you about this. It's not a virus, I'm afraid. You see, a virus is what we doctors call "very, very small". So small, it could not possibly have made off with the whole leg. What we're looking for here for is, I think - and this is no more than an educated guess, I'd like to make that clear - is some multicellular life form with stripes, huge razor-sharp teeth, about eleven feet long, and of the genus felis horribilis - what we doctors, in fact, call a tiger.

--------------

So, it'll just grow back then?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (kTF2Z)

486 Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:43 PM (OGbEB)

O.K. You're old too. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (tOcW/)

Time is strange; rather, the way I remember things is strange: some things long ago are vivid and immediate; other things as recent as yesterday, not so much. I don't feel old.

Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:50 PM (OGbEB)

487 The peak relevance of white supremacists can be seen in undercranked black and white film where hicks in hoods ride around on horses, while Wagner plays on an upright piano.

The last vestige of relevance was when Jerry Springer invited them and black panthers on to the show. And oops, a fight broke out.

Well thanks, CNN for reversing that. I will tell everyone who has cable to unsubscribe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 22, 2016 03:50 PM (VdICR)

488 I was only a little kid and never watched Dallas but I remember a lot of hype everywhere about who shot JR.I vaguely remember people being disappointed by who it turned out to be.I remember very well the Simpsons parody of it involving Mr.Burns.

Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2016 03:50 PM (r/0kC)

489
20 November 1980? I had enlisted in the Army the day before. I was being yelled at by Drill Sergeants. Doing lots of push-ups.
Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2016 03:43 PM (OGbEB)

On that date I was already in the FMF and we were lead to believe Army Drill Sergeants never yelled and certainly never made you do push-ups.The Army had gone mechanized after all.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 22, 2016 03:50 PM (lKyWE)

490 Now this is an interesting discussion. What does Alt Right mean now?

Now? It means any republican the dems don't like. Like Trump voters.

It's original meaning was Stormfront members.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (4RRDi)

491 Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:46 PM (0mRoj)

Well-Get off my lawn!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (tOcW/)
---------------

I was going to say the same thing, but I was going to ask if he could cut it first. And maybe do a little raking while he was at it.

Since he's so young and all.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (uHcnA)

492 Well-Get off my lawn!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (tOcW/)
===

Speaking of lawns, well driveways anyhow, last Friday it was extremely windy here. Sat. I found an unopened condom right next to my car. Baffling.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (CFc5L)

493 I have seen you Outside.

It only bit you once.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2016 03:36 PM (mgbwf)

The horse bit me once, which remains your fault.

The bugs bit me more than once.

Horde, Bander made me sleep in a tent. A TENT HORDE!

Also he made me a very delicious steak that he cooked over an open fire that he made all by himself but still. A. Tent.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

494 Took us just a bit over two weeks to go back to despondency, recriminations, and the circular firing squad, I see.

Chill, y'all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (9krrF)

495 463 Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him. Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

Maybe wait for him to be sworn in and actually do - or not do - things before having a fit?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (hLRSq)

Yeah. Reality check - A. it's been 2 friggin' weeks since he's been elected.
B. He's not always going to do and say the things you want him to. Even Reagan disappointed people at times.
C. Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (u0lmX)

496 Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (mf5HN)

I think "alt-right" is becoming like "Hitler", a word that means "this is someone we do not like" and losing any real solid meaning.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (hLRSq)

497 485 Er...I think I'd better come clean with you about this. It's not a virus, I'm afraid. You see, a virus is what we doctors call "very, very small". So small, it could not possibly have made off with the whole leg. What we're looking for here for is, I think - and this is no more than an educated guess, I'd like to make that clear - is some multicellular life form with stripes, huge razor-sharp teeth, about eleven feet long, and of the genus felis horribilis - what we doctors, in fact, call a tiger.

--------------

So, it'll just grow back then?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (kTF2Z)

THAT ain't gonna grow back!

Posted by: Little aliens from Men in Black at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (ZKlDy)

498 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:48 PM (tOcW/)
---------------

I was going to say the same thing, but I was going to ask if he could cut it first. And maybe do a little raking while he was at it.

Since he's so young and all.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (uHcnA)

Ask all you like...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:53 PM (0mRoj)

499 Now this is an interesting discussion. What does Alt Right mean now?

Now? It means any republican the dems don't like. Like Trump voters.

Yep. The Boogeyman.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 03:53 PM (QQ+il)

500 494 Took us just a bit over two weeks to go back to despondency, recriminations, and the circular firing squad, I see.

Chill, y'all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (9krrF)

Fair point.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 22, 2016 03:53 PM (WuRdh)

501 Now? It means any republican the dems don't like. Like Trump voters.

It's original meaning was Stormfront members.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (4RRDi)

Exactly.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:53 PM (mf5HN)

502 494 Oh not really,one or two people.

Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2016 03:53 PM (r/0kC)

503 18,700 words to go.

Have fun storming the castle, getting your knickers twisted, flailing, flouncing, fainting, getting the vapors, being gas-lighted, and generally setting your hair on fire.

Writing I go.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:54 PM (gMFC1)

504 I'm reminded of what Clinton did just days before Bush took office. He sat down with his team and adjusted the Government's official level of poverty, raising it significantly.
Enter Bush and a week later we are seeing the MFM reporting on the dramatic rise on people falling into poverty under Bush.

Gawd I hate the media.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2016 03:54 PM (0tfLf)

505 496 Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (mf5HN)

I think "alt-right" is becoming like "Hitler", a word that means "this is someone we do not like" and losing any real solid meaning.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (hLRSq)

Single childless males who live in their parents' basements, and jack it to tentacle hentai.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)

506 476 Kirk did it in the episode "Obsession" to get rid of the vampire cloud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (gMFC1)

If I ever wrote Star Trek fanfiction, I would have a Starfleet where all the ships are commanded by Kirk's bastard offspring.

They couldn't have ALL been like David Marcus

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (Ya7zs)

507
Also he made me a very delicious steak that he cooked over an open fire that he made all by himself but still. A. Tent.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

But there was the fresh pulled down to sleep on and the rose petals was there not princess? and frankincense?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (ZKlDy)

508 506 476 Kirk did it in the episode "Obsession" to get rid of the vampire cloud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 22, 2016 03:47 PM (gMFC1)

If I ever wrote Star Trek fanfiction, I would have a Starfleet where all the ships are commanded by Kirk's bastard offspring.

They couldn't have ALL been like David Marcus
Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (Ya7zs)

I would hope not. David Marcus was a pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (0mRoj)

509 >>> However, for many people it appears that Alt Right means Milo and Breitbart and what were called the South Park Republicans. That is a very different thing indeed. Because, you see, I'm pretty sure the actual Neo Nazi Alt Right did not pick as their leader a flamboyant gay Catholic who is Jewish via his mother and who only bangs black guys. I'll go out on that limb. Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:49 PM (mf5HN)

That is my prob! Milo and Breitbart-like thinkers and others have coopted/hijacked the name alt-right for themselves, Milo gleefully so. I frequent his podcasts and lectures, so in my mind that is what alt-right is, mischievious dissidents as he calls them. And then Hannity co-opted the term for his radical alt-left term for progressive leftists. I don't associate it with neo nazis except as a sad fringe that might claim the term, but no longer own it.

It is all confuzzlement to me.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (hvf9s)

510 November 1980, I had just started school at Sprague High School and was learning Russian at 6:00 in the morning early classes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+)

511 A tiger? In Africa?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (6Lsp+)

512
467 In A Taste of Armageddon fusion bombs delivered by transporter were the simulated weapons, so they had thought about it.

You can't transport stuff through active shields though.

You don't need to, and that "rule" is actually not very consistent. At different times you can transport through shields, but it messes things up and is unreliable.

You're flying around with a mass of antimatter in the ship. Transport a golfball sized piece through their shields and bye bye.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)

*sigh*

Transport chunks of his hull out into space. Kind of hard on the air-breathing beings in the crew when you're trying to suck vacuum.

Better yet, transport chunks of his power system cooling units out into space.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (XWkhW)

513 I'm reminded of what Clinton did just days before Bush took office. He sat down with his team and adjusted the Government's official level of poverty, raising it significantly.
Enter Bush and a week later we are seeing the MFM reporting on the dramatic rise on people falling into poverty under Bush.

I pray Trump won't just sit by and accept that, but he'll call the dems out on bs like that.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (4RRDi)

514 Yep. The Boogeyman.

I'm the man you call to kill The Boogeyman.

Posted by: John Wick at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (RKJF2)

515 But there was the fresh pulled down to sleep on and the rose petals was there not princess? and frankincense?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (ZKlDy)

There were spiders.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (mf5HN)

516 What I've noticed about a lot of the Alt-Right is that they seem to be as obsessed with race as BLM

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (Ya7zs)

517 As others have noted, "alt right" has become the same as "neocon" in the past, it used to mean one thing, and has been turned into a pejorative by enemies to mean something else.

Milo is working to win it back by using it while laughing at them. Milo isn't fond of women but he's no racist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)

518 515 But there was the fresh pulled down to sleep on and the rose petals was there not princess? and frankincense?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (ZKlDy)

There were spiders.

Posted by: alexthechick - why does no one listen to me about Outside at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (mf5HN)

LMAO.

I mean.... *shudder*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 22, 2016 03:57 PM (ZKlDy)

519 This terrible incident-as if the story wasn't bad enough before, gets worse. The bus driver in TN- in the accident in which five kids were killed and one died at the hospital said before the accident, "Are you all ready to die now?." And at least one parent had complained that he had previously said to the kids "Shut the eff up. I have a hangover."

http://tinyurl.com/zjvsad4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:57 PM (tOcW/)

520 Ace must be busy baking pies....

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 03:58 PM (Enq6K)

521 It is all confuzzlement to me.

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 03:55 PM (hvf9s)
----------------

You know, it is to me, too, which is why I don't really like the term. I understand the thing about taking a derogatory term and making it your own to take the sting out of it, but I think it's too soon and too explosive for that.

There is no consensus on its meaning, which makes it too hard to deal with for me.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 03:58 PM (uHcnA)

522 >>>>This terrible incident-as if the story wasn't bad enough before, gets
worse. The bus driver in TN- in the accident in which five kids were
killed and one died at the hospital said before the accident, "Are you
all ready to die now?." And at least one parent had complained that he
had previously said to the kids "Shut the eff up. I have a hangover."
.
.
.
.If that is true, he needs a speedy execution.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (iONHu)

523 On the other hand, the Boogie Men know how to get on down.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (QQ+il)

524 Just don't go on any bike rides!

You've got to be pretty scrawny or a lousy rider for a squirrel to actually stall the front wheel and send you for a header.

Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (8J/Te)

525 495 463 Worst fucking day Trump has had and this is 100% his fucking fault. And right now fuck him. Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:19 PM (P5U01)

Maybe wait for him to be sworn in and actually do - or not do - things before having a fit?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 22, 2016 03:44 PM (hLRSq)

Yeah. Reality check - A. it's been 2 friggin' weeks since he's been elected.
B. He's not always going to do and say the things you want him to. Even Reagan disappointed people at times.
C. Hillary Clinton will never be president.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 03:52 PM (u0lmX)

He disavowed the entire Alt Right. The group who got him elected and worked for free.

Is there a racist element on the fringe, yes like all groups have. But to blow up the group who is responsible for your election and worked for free is a knife in back.

I'm saying bad move to turn white hat hackers and conservative autists from 4chan and Reddit. They brought down Clinton. Trump is only a tool of the People and serves us.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (P5U01)

526 I don't think Milo is not fond of women-he just prefers not to have them as sex partners and doesn't like SJW women and radical feminists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (tOcW/)

527 I always wanted to see an episode with both ships incapacitated, shields down and the Enterprise using the transporter to dematerialize the bulkheads of the enemy ship.

Or after a bunch of the crew came out as flaming lefties, I'd be fine with the bulkheads of the Starfleet vessels dematerializing. Either way....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (5KPFy)

528 >>That is my prob! Milo and Breitbart-like thinkers and others have coopted/hijacked the name alt-right for themselves, Milo gleefully so. I frequent his podcasts and lectures, so in my mind that is what alt-right is, mischievious dissidents as he calls them. And then Hannity co-opted the term for his radical alt-left term for progressive leftists. I don't associate it with neo nazis except as a sad fringe that might claim the term, but no longer own it.

They actually do still own it. Richard Spencer invented it and wears it proudly. The left, as they always do, tried to associate anyone who overlapped with their views in any way, like being for Trump or even against Hillary, and tried to bundle everyone into one large basket of alt-right deplorables.

Some, like Milo, wore the label as a joke because obviously a gay man of Jewish heritage who only dates black guys is not alt-right, but that never stops the left from shouting nonsense. They called Trump an anti-semite despite the fact that his daughter, son-in-law and his grandchildren are Jewish.

Facts don't matter to the left, just character assassination.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 03:59 PM (/tuJf)

529 Oh Fenelon, that's horrible. I can't even bring myself to read that link. What a horrible man. Evil.

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 04:00 PM (uHcnA)

530 I've seen squirrels the size of small cats.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:00 PM (QQ+il)

531 Someone needs to light up the ewok signal.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2016 04:00 PM (kTF2Z)

532 Rick223
I agree. I hope he A) has a staff to recognize that level of BS; and B) as you say, call them out on it.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2016 04:00 PM (0tfLf)

533 Better yet, transport chunks of his power system cooling units out into space.

Or large asteroids right in front of the ship going at full impulse... the possibilities are nearly endless. At least in Starfleet Battles boardgame there was a race that used transporter tech to move their entire ship around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:00 PM (39g3+)

534 Let's revive New Right.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:01 PM (QQ+il)

535 Rickb223...

Sorry dude.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2016 04:01 PM (0tfLf)

536 I've seen squirrels the size of small cats.

Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.

Posted by: Westley at November 22, 2016 04:02 PM (39g3+)

537 >>> Let's revive New Right.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:01 PM (QQ+il)

Neo right? The Redditors would like that, they describe their conversion as unthinking leftist to righters as "red pilling"

Posted by: LizLem at November 22, 2016 04:02 PM (hvf9s)

538 I would have expected a real Chicago squirrel to shot the Alderman in the ass.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:02 PM (QQ+il)

539 516 What I've noticed about a lot of the Alt-Right is that they seem to be as obsessed with race as BLM
Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 03:56 PM (Ya7zs)

No. Absolutely not. Let me know when the alt right small segment you speak of begins targeting people of color for violence and gets funding of close to 100 million from an evil globalist to begin race wars.

Then a fair comparison came be made.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 04:02 PM (P5U01)

540 Rickb223...

Sorry dude.
Posted by: Diogenes

'tis but a flesh wound.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (4RRDi)

541 >Some, like Milo, wore the label as a joke because obviously a gay man of Jewish heritage who only dates black guys is not alt-right

It seems like a poor attempt at a joke then. Maybe because not enough people know what the hell neonazi's are busy calling themselves these days? Conflating yourself with a term they created/use seems like a bad idea.

Posted by: Lea at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (lIU4e)

542 540 Rickb223...

Sorry dude.
Posted by: Diogenes

'tis but a flesh wound.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (4RRDi)

Flesh wound? Your arm's off!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (0mRoj)

543 Or large asteroids right in front of the ship going at full impulse...
the possibilities are nearly endless. At least in Starfleet Battles
boardgame there was a race that used transporter tech to move their
entire ship around.
---
Ah, the Andromedans. Always wanted to see if the energy absorption compensated for the crappy ph-2 damage charts.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (3Liv/)

544 Look - if you want to see the creepy fringe of the right read the comments at Taki magazine. There's some good writers there, like Kathy Shaidle and Gavin McInnes - but they could publish an article about flower-arranging and 5 comments in somebody would be saying something nasty about the Joos, Israel, black inferiority and so. The ironic thing is they don't particularly care for Milo (because Joo blood and gay).

Those people are not a significant part of the right but they are out there. I don't particularly care if they are denounced. I do mind when the rest of us get tarred with that brush.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (u0lmX)

545 Krugman IS A PORCUPINE. If he had as many dicks sticking out of him as he had stuck in him then he would look like a porcupine.

Posted by: R. DUKE at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (ONH2e)

546 Rickb223...

Sorry dude.
Posted by: Diogenes

'tis but a flesh wound.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 04:03 PM (4RRDi)

Flesh wound? Your arm's off!
Posted by: Insomniac

See!
Posted by: Michelle Fields

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (4RRDi)

547 Because, you see, I'm pretty sure the actual Neo Nazi Alt Right did not pick as their leader a flamboyant gay Catholic who is Jewish via his mother and who only bangs black guys. I'll go out on that limb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-iTAauXqZk

Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (8J/Te)

548 We know this ... Rothko's works look like some shit we saw in the paint aisle at Home Deot.

Posted by: Alt Right at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (RKJF2)

549 >>>>Better yet, transport chunks of his power system cooling units out into space.

Or large asteroids right in front of the ship going at full
impulse... the possibilities are nearly endless. At least in Starfleet
Battles boardgame there was a race that used transporter tech to move
their entire ship around.
.
.
.I don't have my Jane's Star Fleet guide handy, but I seem to recall that you could not "beam out" any part of a star ship that was not pre staged like the transporter room stands. That's why they always went to the transporter room to beam out anywhere.

You could always beam things into a ship like a bomb but there were supposedly shields or filters to prevent that. But they pretty much broke every rule they ever made in star Trek so there is that.

Like the episode where Sulu and some crew members were stranded on a freezing planet and the transporter was broken so they couldn't get beamed up. I never could understand why they didn't just fly a shuttle craft down to pick them up.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 04:05 PM (iONHu)

550 Being on the Left means you'll never have to say your sorry

D. Prager

Posted by: Skip-hoping Trump at least does random conservative acts at November 22, 2016 04:05 PM (Hh+Gc)

551 I always just wanted Sulu to get beat to death with one of the Klingon axes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 22, 2016 04:06 PM (89T5c)

552 The Warp Core Ejectors had to have been the absolutely worst designed component on a starship. 9 times out of 10, if you needed them, they would be offline.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:06 PM (QQ+il)

553 19023.87

Posted by: RTW at November 22, 2016 04:07 PM (YVtDq)

554 Paul Krugman-

Frequently wrong but never in doubt

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at November 22, 2016 04:07 PM (X+nFp)

555 1980 to me is like yesterday tbut I realize that talking to a 20 year old today about 1980 is like some talking to me in 1980 about 1944.

How screwed up is that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 04:07 PM (lrKc+)

556 Like the episode where Sulu and some crew members were stranded on a freezing planet and the transporter was broken so they couldn't get beamed up. I never could understand why they didn't just fly a shuttle craft down to pick them up.

Shuttlecraft didn't even exist until, like, the second season.

I mean, okay, yes, they must've, but a lot of Trek was made up as they went along.

The idea of the Klingon Empire not having an actual Emperor comes up midway through TNG, but all kinds of books and comics had assumed there was one. Stuff like that.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:07 PM (u0s1P)

557 Conflating yourself with a term they created/use seems like a bad idea.

I don't think racist nazis invented the term alt-right.

That's why they always went to the transporter room to beam out anywhere.

Except when they didn't. I'm guessing it was just a lot easier to do it in a room set up and calculated for it. Yeah, they pretty much just made everything up when they went along without bothering to check the previous established tech. Lots of contradictions.

Mostly the transporter made a lot of storylines not work, so they had to make up all these rules to negate it, like how cell phones never work in an emergency or your car won't start in a thriller.

Posted by: Westley at November 22, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)

558 How screwed up is that.

For kids today, Vietnam is as distant as, no not WWII but, the Great War was to me.

Mindboggling.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:08 PM (QQ+il)

559 Left on Left violence.

SNL's Colin Jost told a joke that was both funny (on SNL? I know, right?) and true and is catching all kinds of hell from his own side.

The joke:

The dating app Tinder announced a new feature this week that gives users 37 different gender identity options. It's called 'Why democrats lost the election."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:09 PM (WlGX+)

560 I'll just say Trump is an idiot for disavowing and painting with a broad brush the white hat hackers and the hard working conservative Pro American Autists from 4Chan and Reddit.

Dumb. They brought down Hillary. Think they won't turn on you Donnie, then guess again.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 04:09 PM (P5U01)

561 What pisses me off is the a-hole won't be fired, won't even be confronted about his blatant liberal bias and complete lack integrity and inability to see or report facts. He'll keep being put on the air to poison the lower-information public with his spewings. And this is why it was even possible for someone as corrupt and impersonable as Hillary Clinton to even get close to the final stages of being elected president. Willful idiots.

Posted by: Schlippy at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (i6YOv)

562 Mostly the transporter made a lot of storylines not work, so they had to make up all these rules to negate it, like how cell phones never work in an emergency or your car won't start in a thriller.

Transporters worked better in TNG-on, with site-to-site beaming, but there was so much technobabble involved with making some episodes last longer than ten minutes, it's hilarious sometimes.

Like ejecting the warp core. It never seemed to work because reasons and then drama and suspense and then they survive anyway.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (u0s1P)

563 Dumb. They brought down Hillary. Think they won't turn on you Donnie, then guess again.

Does he have something to hide?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (QQ+il)

564 So, is this the part of the thread where the 40 year old virgins show up to talk about Star Trek?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (kTF2Z)

565 For kids today, Vietnam is as distant as, no not WWII but, the Great War was to me.

Yeah, its tough to keep that perspective in mind, but its informative. Someone a Junior in high school now was born after 9/11. A 25-year-old was born after the Berlin Wall fell. Cell phones have always existed and been everywhere, and phone booths are like a soda fountain to them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (39g3+)

566 I do mind when the rest of us get tarred with that brush.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 04:04 PM (u0lmX)

Our response should be that all alt-right whatever are simply either made up, like EVERY campus hate crime, or funded by the left in an attempt to smear conservatives as revealed in the email dumps.

Every Time.

Our side is pure as the virgin snow. Just like their side is.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (5KPFy)

567 Shuttlecraft didn't even exist until, like, the second season.

Shuttlecraft were expensive SFX.

That's why there was a transporter to begin with.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (tewYv)

568 560
I'll just say Trump is an idiot for disavowing and painting with a broad
brush the white hat hackers and the hard working conservative Pro
American Autists from 4Chan and Reddit.

Dumb. They brought down Hillary. Think they won't turn on you Donnie, then guess again.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 04:09 PM (P5U01)

JHC! You need to go take a walk....or switched to decaf....or do some yoga. Good Lord!

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (Enq6K)

569 DU is back up. Bathe in the tears folks!!

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (H43MS)

570 Star Trek techno arguments?

And we thought refighting The CW causes got ugly around here.

When some of you geeks decide to get your Trekkie freak on it's gonna make the Memorial Day Unpleasantness look like a 5 year olds tea party.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (X+nFp)

571 >I don't think racist nazis invented the term alt-right.

I don't know. But I don't care who came up with the term Nazi, I'm not going to run around calling myself one either.

Sometimes you want to disassociate fully with a group and be done with it.

Posted by: Lea at November 22, 2016 04:11 PM (lIU4e)

572 Wikileaks is not 4chan.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (VdICR)

573 I really wish the flouncers would stay flounced. Especially the hyperventilating ones.

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (z/Ubi)

574 The idea of the Klingon Empire not having an actual Emperor comes up
midway through TNG, but all kinds of books and comics had assumed there
was one. Stuff like that.
---
I think Worf mentions an Emperor Kahless in the same sentence with Chancellor Galron on DS9 (which I saw on H and I recently). Galron is obviously doing all the decision making so I wonder if the Emperor is more ceremonial like the British Monarchy (and not subject to the whole anyone can kill their way up the chain of command ethic).

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (3Liv/)

575 Milo and Breitbart-like thinkers and others have coopted/hijacked the name alt-right for themselves, Milo gleefully so.

Gleefully? Here's Milo, today, on Facebook:

I'm...disgusted...by journalists who insist on crowning me the queen of the alt-right, when I have repeatedly written and said I am not even a member of the movement -- just a fellow traveller on some issues. All I did was give the alt-right a fair hearing in the press.

I'm not hearing the glee.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (WlGX+)

576 The dating app Tinder announced a new feature this week that gives users 37 different gender identity options. It's called 'Why democrats lost the election."

That's actually a pretty funny joke. Probably hits a bit too close to the bone.

is this the part of the thread where the 40 year old virgins show up to talk about Star Trek?

To me its an interesting study in story writing; they had to come up with dramatic tension despite having this incredible world-changing technology, and to do so basically had to make their characters stupid and uninventive, ignore logic, and break their own established rules.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (39g3+)

577 I would only ask everyone why couldn't Hillary run in 2020? Leftist don't care whatshe did they will still vote for her again.

Posted by: Skip-hoping Trump at least does random conservative acts at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (Hh+Gc)

578 Every year a new wave of barbarians invades the civilized world. We call them: Children.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (QQ+il)

579 >>>>>
For kids today, Vietnam is as distant as, no not WWII but, the Great War was to me.

Yeah, its tough to keep that perspective in mind, but its
informative. Someone a Junior in high school now was born after 9/11. A
25-year-old was born after the Berlin Wall fell. Cell phones have
always existed and been everywhere, and phone booths are like a soda
fountain to them.
.
.
.
.I play miniature wargames with a bunch of younger people in their 20s and they think that we lost the Vietnam War. When I explain to them that the was was pretty much won and we just walked away they can't believe it because they have been indoctrinated so much.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (iONHu)

580 Yeah, its tough to keep that perspective in mind, but its informative. Someone a Junior in high school now was born after 9/11. A 25-year-old was born after the Berlin Wall fell. Cell phones have always existed and been everywhere, and phone booths are like a soda fountain to them.

Back to the Future. Marty goes from 1985 to 1955 and is baffled by the soda bottle, until his dad opens it on the machine like it's no big deal because he's done it a million times.

There's a lot of intentional and unintentional time-capsule goodness in that film.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (u0s1P)

581 Did anyone else see the DS9 episode last night where Worf refused to talk about the STOrig Klingons (some time travel anomaly) and the modern crew is looking at old style Klingons and Worf. It was cute.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (MIKMs)

582 Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:10 PM (u0s1P)

The transporter catching Kirk and his zebra girl in mid Evel Kenievel jump was when I turned the movie off.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (lrKc+)

583 Except when they didn't. I'm guessing it was just a lot easier to do it
in a room set up and calculated for it. Yeah, they pretty much just
made everything up when they went along without bothering to check the
previous established tech. Lots of contradictions.
----
I can transport to another of ship or the surface of a planet, but not around the interior of my own ship? That never made sense.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:14 PM (3Liv/)

584 Sometimes you want to disassociate fully with a group and be done with it.

What if its a new term and there's a push by the left to demonize it and associate it with racism? Do you just shrug and run away or flip them off and make it yours instead?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:15 PM (39g3+)

585 581
Did anyone else see the DS9 episode last night where Worf refused to
talk about the STOrig Klingons (some time travel anomaly) and the modern
crew is looking at old style Klingons and Worf. It was cute.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 22, 2016 04:13 PM (MIKMs)

The Tribble Crossover episode.

Yeah, it was cute. I was drunk most of the time it was on, but the Enterprise series had some episodes where they delved deeper into that.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 04:15 PM (5KPFy)

586 That's actually a pretty funny joke. Probably hits a bit too close to the bone.

There's an article up at the hard-left AV Club detailing the shitstorm he's catching from the Left.

It's shadenboner-licious.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:15 PM (WlGX+)

587 574 The idea of the Klingon Empire not having an actual Emperor comes up
midway through TNG, but all kinds of books and comics had assumed there
was one. Stuff like that.
---
I think Worf mentions an Emperor Kahless in the same sentence with Chancellor Galron on DS9 (which I saw on H and I recently). Galron is obviously doing all the decision making so I wonder if the Emperor is more ceremonial like the British Monarchy (and not subject to the whole anyone can kill their way up the chain of command ethic).
Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:12 PM (3Liv/)

Emperor Khaless was the clone of of the original Khaless that was created in Next Generation. It was agreed there that he would merely be a ceremonial figurehead Emperor.

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (z/Ubi)

588 How telling that Krugman has to couch every snide, speculative opinion in rank-pulling academic-speak: "If the question is when markets will recover, a FIRST-PASS answer is never.... etc"

Ah yes, ye olde thesis-speak of which Republitards are so woefully ignorant. Reminds me of when Lord Mucket and I would while the time ass-fucking astride the Thames discussing emerging markets from Bango Bango. Really, wot...

Pretentious little snot.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (OhTOr)

589 I think Worf mentions an Emperor Kahless in the same sentence with Chancellor Galron on DS9 (which I saw on H and I recently). Galron is obviously doing all the decision making so I wonder if the Emperor is more ceremonial like the British Monarchy (and not subject to the whole anyone can kill their way up the chain of command ethic).

That Kahless is a clone of the ancient Kahless, and he was installed as (ceremonial) emperor in an episode TNG. There's some line about how long it's been since the Klingons had an emperor, I'm pretty sure it's before TOS.

But yeah, Star Trek 6 introduces the Klingon Chancellor and stuff; TNG may have made some statements before 6 was released too. Early TNG is kinda fun in parts because they didn't always know what could get contradicted by the movies.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (u0s1P)

590 You will find Dawn's Early Light amazing, and I envy you reading it for the first time.
Posted by: Wenda

I prefer Dawnzer Lee Light.

Posted by: Ramona Quimby at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (mBYZv)

591
"I mean, okay, yes, they must've, but a lot of Trek was made up as they went along. "

I read in the WSJ that a lot of Trek inventions came from the fact that they were working on a shoestring budget. The transporter room was created because it was cheaper and quicker than having a shuttle. They must have created the shuttlecraft to meet the needs of a particular plotline.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (u0lmX)

592 What if its a new term and there's a push by the
left to demonize it and associate it with racism? Do you just shrug and
run away or flip them off and make it yours instead?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:15 PM (39g3+)

I really like the idea of continually bringing up the emails and saying it's really their people.....because it was them at Trump events. It's always lefty plants.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 04:17 PM (5KPFy)

593 >>What if its a new term and there's a push by the left to demonize it and associate it with racism? Do you just shrug and run away or flip them off and make it yours instead?

Spencer started the website AlternativeRight in 2010 and his views are out there for all to see. He also proudly calls himself the founder of the alt-right term. He is a racist and an anti-semite. There really is no denying that nor should anyone try.

He's a vile piece of shit and I do not want to be associated with him.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 04:17 PM (/tuJf)

594 Star Trek techno arguments?

And we thought refighting The CW causes got ugly around here.

When some of you geeks decide to get your Trekkie freak on it's
gonna make the Memorial Day Unpleasantness look like a 5 year olds tea
party.
---
Let's not discuss the War of Vulcan Aggression.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:17 PM (3Liv/)

595 How about this one?

If someone calls you/accuses you of being alt right politely respond with "No, I'm what is more accurately described as a traditional American. I have know idea what alt right even means."?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at November 22, 2016 04:17 PM (X+nFp)

596 Is there a name for flouncers who renege on the flouncing?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:18 PM (WlGX+)

597 "Alt-right" is a meaningless term, like "Tea Party." There are actually all kinds of words that people throw around that they have no clue what they mean. "Postmodern" is another one. It's a catch-all, and it means whatever you want it to mean.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 22, 2016 04:19 PM (9TO2x)

598 >>>What if its a new term and there's a push by the left to demonize it and
associate it with racism? Do you just shrug and run away or flip them
off and make it yours instead?

Spencer started the website AlternativeRight in 2010 and his views
are out there for all to see. He also proudly calls himself the founder
of the alt-right term. He is a racist and an anti-semite. There really
is no denying that nor should anyone try.

He's a vile piece of shit and I do not want to be associated with him.
.
.
.
.And Trump denounced that group, end of story and he needs to quit the Pavlovian responses to any future msm accusations of being supported by them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 22, 2016 04:19 PM (iONHu)

599 The transporter catching Kirk and his zebra girl in mid Evel Kenievel jump was when I turned the movie off.

And he didn't even bang her. Obvious fail. Not true to the original.

Sad.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 22, 2016 04:19 PM (RKJF2)

600 Shuttlecraft were expensive SFX.

That's why there was a transporter to begin with.

Yeah, but they weren't mentioned, but would've come in handy early on, if they had stuff planned out.

Re: TOS Klingons vs. TNG Klingons-- That was a hilarious bit with Worf, but then Enterprise-- which I actually like a lot-- decided that it needed explaining. Star Trek is at its worst (usually) when it has to explain itself. Or when it takes itself too seriously.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:19 PM (u0s1P)

601 I'm over with Star Trek but I did have a book on the history of it.

The show was produced by Desilu, Lucille Ball and Ricky's company. Lucy never really understood what the show was about. She heard the term Star Trek one time and thought it was a show about some actors.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 04:19 PM (5KPFy)

602 >>And Trump denounced that group, end of story and he needs to quit the Pavlovian responses to any future msm accusations of being supported by them.

Agreed. Every time he engages with the press on this there is no win.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2016 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

603 But I don't care who came up with the term Nazi, I'm not going to run around calling myself one either.
---
The national socialist german workers party, which was apparently one word in the original german. But long so they shortened it to "nazi."

That's different from "Moron" which will call ourselves in mockery of 'our betters' who regard us as such.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2016 04:20 PM (3Liv/)

604 Wenda, I just put it on hold at my library. Thank you!

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (uHcnA)

605

Alt Right

I first heard of it in Gamer Gate.

Posted by: ThunderB at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (6Vm/A)

606 "Alt right" is the new "hate speech."
It starts out meaningless.
Then rather than get into a debate about semantics, most find it easier simply to say "I'm not..."
Then the term itself acquires the meaning of Unacceptable Third Rail Opinion That Thou Must Never Touch --and we lose more freedom of speech and thought in the process.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (OhTOr)

607 584,
Indeed...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (hJug6)

608 Early TOS has some fun parts too, like when they call Spock a "Vulcanian" before the writers decided "Vulcan" was better.

Early Installment Weirdness, man. I love it.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (u0s1P)

609 I would respond to being called alt right with ' I'm alt right like you're a communist ' .

The danger in that though is there is a good chance they are communist.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 22, 2016 04:22 PM (lrKc+)

610 608 Early TOS has some fun parts too, like when they call Spock a "Vulcanian" before the writers decided "Vulcan" was better.

Early Installment Weirdness, man. I love it.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:21 PM (u0s1P)

It was also originally "Lithium Crystals"

Posted by: buzzion at November 22, 2016 04:22 PM (z/Ubi)

611 I am absolutely ignoring the "alt right" slur. Yeah yeah whatever Skippy.

Traditional American it is.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at November 22, 2016 04:22 PM (X+nFp)

612 I read in the WSJ that a lot of Trek inventions came
from the fact that they were working on a shoestring budget. The
transporter room was created because it was cheaper and quicker than
having a shuttle. They must have created the shuttlecraft to meet the
needs of a particular plotline.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 04:16 PM (u0lmX)

I saw on one of the ST anniversary shows that the doors that opened and shut 'automatically' were actually done by two stage hands pulling them open and pushing them closed.

BBC America is having a Treksgiving starting on Thursday. 3 days I think. TOS and SNG.

Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (Enq6K)

613 I hope Mary Worth's okay..

New in-house art style. She's about 20 years younger now. So yeah, doing OK. Still meddling though.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (WlGX+)

614 The problem with the later Star Trek shows is that they took themselves entirely too seriously. The first series knew it was a cheap show and winked at you, with Kirk chewing up the scenery to distract you. It was a submarine thriller crossed with Twilight Zone, and they tried to get all literary and important in later shows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (39g3+)

615 The Klingon Forehead Arc of Enterprise did give us Klingon Uncle Phil, so that was cool.

(Fun factoid: he was also the voice of Shredder on the 80's Ninja Turtles cartoon.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (u0s1P)

616 My term for the the leftiists are pedophiles because that's what they all are.

End. Of. Story

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (P5U01)

617 "I play miniature wargames with a bunch of younger people in their 20s and they think that we lost the Vietnam War. When I explain to them that the was was pretty much won and we just walked away they can't believe it because they have been indoctrinated so much. "

Be sure to tell them that all the people who left Vietnam after the war were either a) traitors to their country or b) psychopathic mercenary killers working for the US military or c) their imagination...

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (5OK42)

618 Went to the dentist today - no cavities.

Posted by: Weasel at November 22, 2016 04:23 PM (Sfs6o)

619 Ah, so now it's a "slur".

Any other terms we should distance ourselves from?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (hJug6)

620 >What if its a new term and there's a push by the left to demonize it and associate it with racism? Do you just shrug and run away or flip them off and make it yours instead?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:15 PM (39g3+)

Maybe it depends on how it originated and where it is most commonly used. I do think terms can be so tainted they just need to be dropped. This seems like one of them, particularly since it IS so new, and most associations I've seen are negative.

Posted by: Lea at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (lIU4e)

621 Trending third on Facebook "Hillary Clinton now 1.7 million votes ahead of Trump"
LOL

Posted by: steevy at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (r/0kC)

622 It was also originally "Lithium Crystals"

Yeah. Also, *Tri*-lithium comes up in TNG and other places, but it's always something different. I love stuff like that.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (u0s1P)

623 And guys, if you didn't notice, n00d thread...

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (5OK42)

624 I saw on one of the ST anniversary shows that the doors that opened and shut 'automatically' were actually done by two stage hands pulling them open and pushing them closed.

I loved how the doors were smart. Characters would walk up to the doors, start to step into the room, then stop and have a conversation, The doors didn't open. Then when he was done talking, and started to turn to go in, the doors open.

The doors knew.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)

625 Nood.

Posted by: HH at November 22, 2016 04:25 PM (DrCtv)

626
For those of you hoping to get your Ken Russell on,

and you know who you are...

"The Lair of the White Worm" will be available on blu-ray for the first time

in Jan 2017.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 22, 2016 04:25 PM (vZ9Fw)

627 So, did Michigan ever get around to calling the damn race? Wasn't it supposed to be today?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:25 PM (WlGX+)

628 Since there's been no new post for hours, one can only conclude that the alt right kidnapped ace and sold him to the Klingons via transporter.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 22, 2016 04:25 PM (kTF2Z)

629 Weasel, are you unbanned at work at last?

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 04:26 PM (uHcnA)

630 The facts in evidence about Trump's campaign should dispel any notion that he's associated with Nazis or White Supremacists.
His son-in law is an Orthodox Jew. So his daughter Ivanka, who converted.
Trump actively sought the black vote
He gave a shout out at the RNC to LBGTetc, and thousands of Evangelicals cheered; Later at a rally, he hoisted a rainbow flag.
Not only do these few examples illustrate that Trump or his advisors are not Neo-Nazis. They also disprove any notion that REAL Neo Nazis would want to be associated wit Trump's movement.

It's smoke and mirrors from the MSM to confuse the LIVs and try to deligitamize Trump's presidency.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 22, 2016 04:26 PM (9TO2x)

631 Paul Krugman can suck a BOD. Sideways.

Why won't the NTY fire that shitbag? (I know, I know...)

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 22, 2016 04:26 PM (MCEs2)

632

Alt right NOW is anyone who rejects political correctness and multiculturalism and prefers western cultural values

Check the Urban Dictionary.com

But believing in those things makes you a Neo Nazi? Because THATS what the mefua us averring, and Ben Shapiro and Dana Loesch agree

Posted by: ThunderB at November 22, 2016 04:27 PM (6Vm/A)

633
629 Weasel, are you unbanned at work at last?

Posted by: bluebell at November 22, 2016 04:26 PM (uHcnA)
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Hi bluebell! I checked yesterday - still banned.

Posted by: Weasel at November 22, 2016 04:28 PM (Sfs6o)

634 Any other terms we should distance ourselves from?

Scrotal edema.

Posted by: eleven at November 22, 2016 04:28 PM (qUNWi)

635 Shuttlecraft didn't even exist until, like, the second season.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 22, 2016 04:07 PM (u0s1P)

The first appearance of a shuttlecraft was in The Galileo Seven, the 16th episode of the first season

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 04:29 PM (Ya7zs)

636 627
So, did Michigan ever get around to calling the damn race? Wasn't it supposed to be today?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 22, 2016 04:25 PM (WlGX+)

NYTimes site a couple of hours ago ---- nope.

New thread. A cabbie wanted to kill a bunch of Americans. Don't crap yourselves in surprise, but his name was Mohamed.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 22, 2016 04:29 PM (5KPFy)

637 The NYT's product is distributing liberal propaganda and viewpoint. Krugman actually does a good job of generating product.

It's product that noone really needs, but that Carlos Slim wants done, so it gets done.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, #MakeCarcosaGreatAgain at November 22, 2016 04:29 PM (5OK42)

638 The first appearance of a shuttlecraft was in The Galileo Seven, the 16th episode of the first season

The first episode I remember a shuttle being in was first season, the one where Spock takes charge and can't lead properly because all he has to offer is logic, and can't work with people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:30 PM (39g3+)

639 I am not a nazi. Old Pappy Eromero fought those bastards in WW2. I prefer to be called a....Presbyterian Constitutionalist. Yeah that's it.

Posted by: Eromero at November 22, 2016 04:32 PM (zLDYs)

640 The first episode I remember a shuttle being in was first season, the one where Spock takes charge and can't lead properly because all he has to offer is logic, and can't work with people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 22, 2016 04:30 PM (39g3+)

That was The Galileo Seven.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2016 04:34 PM (Ya7zs)

641 I bet I wasn't the only Moron that bought the VIXX at the market close of election day JUST IN CASE Trump won.

The following morning it took exactly 10 MINUTES for the Krugmans and Cubans to be proven not just wrong but dramatically wrong. Thank god I was on the case and dumped at a small loss as soon as the action turned north - checked it today and I see my investment would now be down 50%. F Krugman and Cuban!!!!

Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 22, 2016 04:37 PM (PvCxa)

642 I saw on one of the ST anniversary shows that the doors that opened and shut 'automatically' were actually done by two stage hands pulling them open and pushing them closed. "

Ha! That 25th century technology!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 22, 2016 04:40 PM (u0lmX)

643 Trending third on Facebook "Hillary Clinton now 1.7 million votes ahead of Trump"
LOL

And she is +5 in the latest Nevada UNLV/CNN poll. Its going to be a short night folks.

Posted by: Byll Winn at November 22, 2016 04:40 PM (l8P7H)

644 You people crack me up.

Posted by: Ross Perot at November 22, 2016 04:41 PM (8iiMU)

645 Krugman's early economic works were solid academically. His award was likely merited, given the leanings of the committee. He's still a dick of a human being.

Posted by: Afroman at November 22, 2016 04:47 PM (dXUZR)

646 Krugman should be nominated Bottom of the Barrel Bum Buddy.

Posted by: Some Guy at November 22, 2016 04:51 PM (q177U)

647 post doctorate in being wrong. He is the king of wrong. Hence, the love from all things liberal

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at November 22, 2016 05:23 PM (fJQAI)

648 Test

Posted by: Flyboy at November 22, 2016 07:13 PM (nBOBt)

649 He should take a page out of George Costanza's playbook and do the exact opposite of what he thinks he should do. Then he'd be golden.

Posted by: Poncho at November 22, 2016 07:40 PM (GMQML)

650 He is a little punk ....

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