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Yeah, but you're a racist.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut-In at November 07, 2016 05:40 PM (CPk08) 2
First?
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 07, 2016 05:40 PM (jPoCB) 3
(Manspreads)
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 05:40 PM (eXSOZ) 4
That was weird
Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2016 05:40 PM (sWbjH) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:41 PM (mbhDw) Posted by: Nip Sip at November 07, 2016 05:41 PM (NbJXF) 7
Harwood is the other guy who puts carrots in his burgers.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 07, 2016 05:41 PM (mgbwf) 8
Ask him to say something in Mexican.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (QM5S2) 9
At this point, nothing surprises me anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (jPoCB) 10
Why is the DoJ placing poll watchers in solid blue areas, like Brooklyn, Queens and Orange Counties??? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (mbhDw) 11
John Harwood likes the taste of cock.
Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (r/0kC) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (Nwg0u) 13
Wait, we weren't done talking about food.
Posted by: L, Elle at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (6IPEM) 14
I got a never before "not ready" warning, similar to the one when trying to copy and paste and pixy won't allow it.
Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (sWbjH) 15
Well, Jeb is supporting Hillary, so it's all good....
Posted by: Huma at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (/WU0Q) 16
Let the enemy moderate a debate because- diversity! It would be hateful to silence their speech. Are we not virtuous?
Posted by: Your Betters at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (V+B19) 17
The angling for Minster for Propaganda in the Pantsuit administration is going to be fierce.
Hopefully Trump pulls it off. Also, LOL @Nip Sip Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (UHLlC) 18
Honestly, whose fault is it that Harwood moderated the debate? At least 50% of it is Reince Preppus.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (Agn5J) 19
I fail to see the problem here.
Posted by: Lester Holt: Registered Republican at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (qJhUV) 20
And he still has a job at CNBC. As do Tapper and Blitzer at CNN.
Tells you everything you need to know about their commitment to "journalism". Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (/tuJf) 21
I think burning at the stake and the guillotine is too good for the media. We need to think of a new method when the end times come.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (TBVdD) 22
Rigged. I thought Trump was overstating things a bit, but he's damn right.
Posted by: Matticus at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (p/5D/) Posted by: fixerupper at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (8XRCm) 24
What Question He Should Ask Jeb In an Interview "Heb, how did you learn to speak Spanish so beautifully?" Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (tHwdc) 25
This country is overrun with domestic enemies. We actually lost the Cold War, come to think of it. Sure, we collapsed the Soviet Union but even as they fell they infected us with their poison and I'm afraid the infection is fatal.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (dSriL) 26
Why is the DoJ placing poll watchers in solid blue areas, like Brooklyn, Queens and Orange Counties???
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:42 Do said watchers carry billy clubs and wear black berets to identify them? Posted by: Joe Mama at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (jPoCB) 27
It's a fake email. You can trust me, I'm a conservative.
Posted by: Evan McMullan at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (FqgrG) Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (7ZVPa) 29
This wouldn't actually bother me... if they did the same thing in reverse. As in, talked to Republicans about what questions to ask the Democrat candidates. Because that seems like a clever idea to pursue for a debate, in part. But no, it was only one party, in one direction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (39g3+) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:44 PM (qCMvj) 31
So we have obvious leftists thread or food thread.
Can always go back. Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2016 05:44 PM (sWbjH) 32
ace> "Like the guy drinks the Kool-Ade then turns to you with purple-stained lips and says "I drank no Kool-Ade," "
Like Barry with Reggie's jizz on his chin? Posted by: Golfman at November 07, 2016 05:44 PM (48QDY) 33
Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at November 07, 2016 05:44 PM (GwIKd) 34
28 What is the (by far) biggest concern of the voters this year, according to Pew?
Corruption Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (7ZVPa) I saw that a few weeks back and that might just be the tell. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:44 PM (mbhDw) 35
Isn't it Kool-Aid, or is there a meme I'm missing?
Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (3Liv/) Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (mf5HN) 37
I am so tired of the GOPe' battle cry of "We're morally superior!" First, you're not. Second, if you want to win, sometimes you need to fight dirty. Start using veto power for obvious partisan moderators for a change.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (Agn5J) 38
And CNBC trots that c*ck munch out day after day as their political expert. That whole channel needs a visit from SMOD Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (493sH) 39
>>Trapper gave Kellyanne so much crap, and he was one of the benefactors of this.
She kicked his ass. It was fun to watch. Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (/tuJf) 40
I really don't find any of this surprising. The Media has been trying to (and let's face it, succeeding in) setting the agenda for politics for at least as long as I've been alive. And that's five hundred years.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (8mIih) 41
Trump should have turned his 10 thousand plus rallies into canvasing parties. Imagine if the thousands that show up at his rally's actually were on the ground, getting out the vote by going door to door, setting up car pools, and informing people? Opportunity lost? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj) 42
Rigged. I thought Trump was overstating things a bit, but he's damn right.
Posted by: Matticus at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (p/5D/) Which is precisely why they lost their shit as soon as he started saying it.... Posted by: JoeF. at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (/WU0Q) 43
The GOP is just not going to be able to have any MSM moderator do the debates ever again.
Who cares if they scream bloody murder that they don't get to influence our primary. Just embrace the yellow journalism that is now a reality and have conservative pundits and talk show hosts start moderating these debates. This should have been obvious a while ago. I tend to think the only reason Reince allowed it was because he thought they would destroy Trump. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (d369m) 44
Just remember that the ultraleft liberals in the Media can get away with this kind of shit because the RNCe allows it. They agree to every stinking left wing news media BS possible.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (mpXpK) 45
29 This wouldn't actually bother me... if they did the same thing in reverse. As in, talked to Republicans about what questions to ask the Democrat candidates. Because that seems like a clever idea to pursue for a debate, in part. But no, it was only one party, in one direction.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (39g3+) It's pathetic when even so-called "journalists" can't be bothered to come up with their own questions. Even biased ones. But, as we all should know by now, they are NOT journalists. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (mbhDw) 46
Wolf asked the DNC for questions for trump and Cruz interviews.
Washington post dana Milbank asked dnc for trump opo research on 10 reasons why trump is evil or some such column. Who is NOT in total collusion???? Posted by: lizzy at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (Cf46D) Posted by: Inspector Krogh at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (2WITp) 48
The final polls are out and we have a12 point spread nationally and 13 points in NH alone. Plus there is that small matter of actual votes showing something..... Interesting. 25% are totally new voters, or at least haven't voted in a long time. I would guess the in a long timers are almost certainly Trump voters. I haven't found a breakdown of the new and newish voters.
Posted by: Knaws at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (sS93S) 49
In fairness to Harwood, he did ask the Hillary campaign what questions she didn't want asked, so these things tend to even out.
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (4e+hS) 50
Raise your hand if you will be watching cable news on any network after the election?
Yeah me neither. I'm done. They can all go to their cocktails parties, talk about what assholes the ignorant dupes are (AKA the average person and former viewers) and have a martini circle jerk. Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (TBVdD) 51
But that's just one cherry-picked email.
Posted by: Stone II at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (NUqwG) 52
Collusion is not just a river in Egypt.
Posted by: garrett at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (hCJsF) 53
Why is the DoJ placing poll watchers in solid blue areas, like Brooklyn, Queens and Orange Counties???
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:42 PM (mbhDw) This truly shocks me....especially Brooklyn. Where is Orange County? Isn't that upstate? Albany? Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (u0lmX) Posted by: DaveA at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (8J/Te) 55
Rigged. I thought Trump was overstating things a bit, but he's damn right.
Posted by: Matticus at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (p/5D/) Which is precisely why they lost their shit as soon as he started saying it.... Posted by: JoeF. It really is funny how they collectively lost their shit over it. Usually that means it was a direct hit. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (d369m) 56
MSM.....ZERO credibility.
Posted by: Barky McFuckstick's Rogue Telepromter at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (i0ykY) 57
A reminder that John Harwood was allowed to moderate a GOP primary debate. They'll just choose from a different list of lefty assholes next time. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (IqV8l) 58
Why did the Republicans put up with it? I don't believe they can't even get a non-liberal for an in-house debate. There's no other side to negotiate against.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (v9gSJ) 59
Republican candidates should stipulate that they will only agree to a debate with moderators like Harwood and all the other MSM boneheads on the condition that the Dems have their debates moderated by Rush Limbaugh. Until then Republicans need to find someone else to do the moderating. I guess Chris Wallace is an ok staring point until we can identify a solid list of acceptable people but even he had his thumb a bit on the scale in favor of Hillary during the final preezy debate.
I would pay good money to watch Dem candidates debate with Rush as moderator. Posted by: Texas Zombie at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (SUtNI) 60
20 Islamists have infiltrated Germany's Army. Open borders a wonderful thing. [Mis. Hum.]
There are a hell of a lot more than 20 in ours. Hiding in plain sight, too. Nidal Hassan, anyone? Posted by: West at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (1Rgee) 61
Step 1: There was no koolaid
Step 2: I did not see any koolaid Step 3: I did not drink any koolaid Step 4: Oh yeah, I drank something, but it wasn't that. Step 5: I was assured that was not koolaid Step 6: I didn't drink it, I only tasted it Step 7: I didn't drink much koolaid Step 8: Republicans are racist. Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (eXSOZ) 62
Ace:
"He's one of those guys who drinks the Kool-Ade then turns to you with purple-stained lips and says "I drank no Kool-Ade" Ace, although it is illogical, the powered sugary drink is actually spelled "Kool-Aid": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid Yeah, it's supposed to be a reference to "lemonade," and thus it SHOULD be "Kool-Ade," but from what I remember there was some copyright issue back in the '30s so the company changed the spelling to "Kool-Aid" and it has been that way ever since, despite looking like it is "misspelled." Posted by: zombie at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (jBuUi) 63
Hey, I work for Fox and I moderated a debate. Proof positive that the media is unbiased! So there!!
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (qJhUV) Posted by: Nip Sip at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (NbJXF) 65
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Trump should have turned his 10 thousand plus rallies into canvasing parties. Imagine if the thousands that show up at his rally's actually were on the ground, getting out the vote by going door to door, setting up car pools, and informing people? Opportunity lost? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj) I don't think so. The sheer numbers he is attracting, as opposed to the empty chairs (heh) for Nurse Nasty and Disabled Kaine is quite telling. At least, I hope that this is a good anecdotal indicator for tomorrow. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (mbhDw) 66
That emails released today show they thought Harwood was a pain in the ass and did not do his interviews because his audience was too small. Even after reading that, Harwood will still worship them.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (OD2ni) 67
One of the reasons I want Trump to win is just to see the look on the faces of motherfarkers like John Limpwood. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (493sH) 68
When are Republicans going to start listening to us rubes when we keep telling then to avoid certain "news" channels and their democrat front men?
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (4e+hS) 69
How anyone thinks that a self-governing people can survive with such a blatantly biased media is beyond me.
As bad as the Democrat Party has become, it would not get 25% of the vote had we a "Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts", neutral, professional media. Posted by: LGoPs at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (dSriL) 70
I'm really tired. Really, really tired.
Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (Y4CVA) 71
4:51
Posted by: Yo! at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (GwIKd) 72
What Question He Should Ask Jeb In an Interview
............. Did you really think marrying that short lady would make your dick look bigger? Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (2WITp) 73
60 20 Islamists have infiltrated Germany's Army. Open borders a wonderful thing. [Mis. Hum.]
There are a hell of a lot more than 20 in ours. Hiding in plain sight, too. Nidal Hassan, anyone? Posted by: West at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (1Rgee) "Islam, Islam über alles, Über alles I keel Youuu . . ." Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (mbhDw) 74
So we are posting in the future?
Posted by: Yo! at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (GwIKd) 75
You mean........ THEY CHEAT????
............ Well, tear my arm off. Posted by: Inspector Krogh at November 07, 2016 05:46 PM (2WITp) That's not even funny Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (i0ykY) 76
I was listening to talk radio today and laughing at the hosts claiming if it were anyone but Trump on the ticket, we'd be far ahead... because other candidates wouldn't be savaged like Trump has been.
They made Mitt Romney look like Hitler, dumbasses. ANYONE would be on the ticket and get savaged by the MSM! Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (Agn5J) 77
Heavy flak means your over the target
Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (0LQ4f) 78
Posted by: Texas Zombie at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (SUtNI)
I would watch that. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (Q5Ymk) 79
How anyone thinks that a self-governing people can survive with such a blatantly biased media is beyond me.
Yeah this has gone too far for a Republic to survive. It has to change, one way or another, for us to have any liberty at all in the future. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (39g3+) Posted by: Nip Sip at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (NbJXF) 81
Of course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (mgbwf) Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (gA69l) 83
Who is gonna lecture we deplorable on reconciliation and civility on Wednesday? ???
Yeah, the backstabbing MSM. Posted by: lizzy at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (Cf46D) Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (hMqvx) 85
Of course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
---- I never even knew they fought each other. Posted by: fixerupper at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (8XRCm) 86
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5eRR4ASKk
Prof. Clifford Thies Predicts A Surprisingly Strong Win for Trump Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (y3aQB) 87
They made Mitt Romney look like Hitler, dumbasses. ANYONE would be on the ticket and get savaged by the MSM!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:49 PM (Agn5J) -------------------------- In fairness to the left, Romney is cancerous. Posted by: RioBravo at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (NUqwG) 88
66 That emails released today show they thought Harwood was a pain in the ass and did not do his interviews because his audience was too small. Even after reading that, Harwood will still worship them.
Posted by: Benji Carver I prefer addled as a description for Kaine. Posted by: Knaws at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (sS93S) 89
50 Raise your hand if you will be watching cable news on any network after the election?
Yeah me neither. I'm done. " I have cable for 3 reasons: to watch baseball, to catch the occasional old flick on TCM and Fox News. Since Fox isn't worth a bucket of warm spit anymore, I'm questioning if I should be paying so much to watch the other two. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (u0lmX) 90
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (mgbwf)
All that fast food talk I'm going to have to have a snack. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (Q5Ymk) Posted by: jsg at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (gs8be) 92
I haven't got a single ironically from either Hillary or Trump.
Got a bunch of state race robocalls though. Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (Om16U) 93
mitchellvii
07/11/16 15:39 Just interviewed @CassandraRules. She was BIG Bernie supporter and said easily 1/3 will NOT be voting Hillary. They HATE her. Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (y3aQB) 94
Ironically = robocall
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (Om16U) 95
Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 05:50 PM (hMqvx)
Ok, you take that back. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (Q5Ymk) 96
"O, Sweet saint San Andreas, Hear my prayer."
------ So...... If California ends up at the bottom of the Indian ocean..... they no longer get 55 electorals. Right??? Posted by: fixerupper at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (8XRCm) 97
Thing is, I'm not sure that in the future there are any unbiased journalists.
I was totally shocked to see the Deseret News go straight into the "Bash Trump" tank so much. I thought they were the exception to the "Democrat über alles!" rule of newspapers. McMullin is in large part due to the so-called conservative media in Utah deciding they couldn't in good conscience endorse Hillary (because they would be absolutely destroyed) so they came up with McMullin. Amazing. But if the Deseret News went full leftist, who's left, in reality, that could "moderate" the debate: that's not an enemy to conservatives, that is? Posted by: Vanceone at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (IQzhs) 98
84 What to ask Jeb?
Did those tacos make your wife fat? Or, how can you CLAIM to be Catholic when the RC is full of... haters...? Posted by: havildar-major at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (jpW6t) 99
They made Mitt Romney look like Hitler, dumbasses. ANYONE would be on the ticket and get savaged by the MSM!
Then there's Bill Maher on his show admitting that what he said about Bush, McCain and Romney was all lies, crying wolf, and they went too far -- and his panel of leftist talking heads all nodding along -- but this time, its different, Trump is a total Nazi monster, honest! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (39g3+) Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (y3aQB) Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (gA69l) 102
How is this collusion not considered making an unreported contribution to a political party? And why are these fuckers not in jail for doing so?
I guess your name has to be D'Nesh D'Sousa for that to happen. I am so done with having any allegiance to this country. Posted by: LGoPs at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (dSriL) Posted by: lizzy at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (Cf46D) 104
Trump said the P word!!! That disqualifies him!
Now, if Jebbie had called Harwood a pussy, I mighta actually voted for him.. Well, no.. I think he was gone from the race before Illinois. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (so+oy) 105
John Harwood is average joe. That is all.
Posted by: dantesed at November 07, 2016 05:52 PM (88xKn) 106
I am seriously thinking of getting rid of Directv and doing the Hulu, SlingTV, Netflix thing. Except I am tech impaired so not sure how difficult it would be - we did just get a new smart TV, that makes it easier, right?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (a0IVu) 107
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 07, 2016 05:51 PM (Om16U)
Me either, I am getting robo calls about the ballot props. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (Q5Ymk) 108
Trump should have turned his 10 thousand plus rallies into canvasing parties.
Imagine if the thousands that show up at his rally's actually were on the ground, getting out the vote by going door to door, setting up car pools, and informing people? Opportunity lost? Posted by: artisanal 'ette I just don't know, I've been skeptical of the value of these rallies. I do think it pulls in people at the grassroots level though, I just don't know if there is a real organization to take advantage of it. I know if I saw a Democrat pulling in people like this and filling arenas, I would be scared. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (d369m) Posted by: Nip Sip at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (NbJXF) 110
It really is funny how they collectively lost their shit over it.
Usually that means it was a direct hit. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:47 PM (d369m) And on a related note, that goes doubly for when Trump refused to "pledge" he wouldn't fight the results of the election. I saw that trotted out again on MeAgain's show last night with Julie Roginsky and Dana Perino. Two points, why doesn't anyone ask Hillary the same question?? and , What if it comes down to Pennsylvania, Hillary wins, but there is evidence that 125% of the vote in Philly went to her? Trump would be a fool not to fight it..... Posted by: JoeF. at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (/WU0Q) 111
So we are posting in the future? Posted by: Yo! Happens every time the daylight stupid change happens. Takes a day or two to straighten it out. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (IqV8l) 112
The job of the State Media is to advance the agenda of the State.
Sadly, this revelation is not surprising. Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (X7E8f) 113
course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
---- I never even knew they fought each other. -------------- It was a helluva grind. Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (FqgrG) 114
Selectively hear my prayer Saint San andreas?
Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (hMqvx) 115
The real tell for being a 'Kool-Aid Drinker' is that they're dead shortly after.
Because the reference is to Jim Jones' faithful downing the poison (which was actually Flavor Aid). Unfortunately, the metaphorical drinkers never seem to drop. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (QlyN5) 116
What should he ask Jeb? How long before the medication starts combatting his Low-T
Posted by: buzzion at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (z/Ubi) 117
Of course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
---- I never even knew they fought each other. Posted by: fixerupper Teak FTW! Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (el8j3) 118
Dana Milbank of the WaPo did the same... asked the DNC to help him write an article on the 10 worst things Trump has said/done. 8 of the 10 came from the DNC reply.
Posted by: scofflaw_x at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (y9ZJX) 119
Trafalgar Group Our Pennsylvania poll. Trump is up almost 2%. Larger Trump win with strong hidden vote likely in this state. Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (y3aQB) Posted by: Hugh Hefner at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (gA69l) 121
yikes, the news segments on the radio are saying "a predicted Clinton victory" like it's a done deal /sigh Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (qCMvj) Posted by: simplemind at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (C6xeQ) 123
That emails released today show they thought Harwood was a pain in the ass and did not do his interviews because his audience was too small. Even after reading that, Harwood will still worship them.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 07, 2016 05:48 PM (OD2ni) The Renfield of the MFM Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (493sH) Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (GX63o) 125
So where is everybody planning on getting their election return results?
I'm almost thinking I just tune everything out until like 10pm, I know there will be major gas lighting tomorrow from basically every television source. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (d369m) 126
course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
---- I never even knew they fought each other. -------------- It was a helluva grind. Posted by: Nigel West Dickens It splintered into a crazy offshoot. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (el8j3) 127
Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (el8j3)
I'm going to throw out walnut, just to be combative. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (Q5Ymk) 128
Side bar "Blowjobs for voting against Donald Trump"
What's to keep a shit ton of dudes from lying and collecting on face fucking them? Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (R5HRU) 129
If Trump has brought new voters into participating, they would generally not show up in likely voter models, which usually measure past participation.
If. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (QlyN5) Posted by: Jon Hardwood at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (NpXoL) Posted by: Methos at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (3Liv/) 132
Troll's still going on the last thread.
Where is Soros getting these guys? Some call center in Russia? Is first English language not sandwich, no? Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (0cMkb) Posted by: simplemind at November 07, 2016 05:56 PM (C6xeQ) 134
I can't think of anything to say other than words that I don't say. I have plenty of clever rejoinders, but I'm trying to restrain myself.
Any moment now, I expect good folk like FenelonSpoke and Grammie Winger to lash into a fury that would make a sailor blush. Once they do, I'll let loose, too. Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at November 07, 2016 05:56 PM (nvMvs) 135
How anyone thinks that a self-governing people can survive with such a blatantly biased media is beyond me.
*** We are no longer a self-governing people. And that is why the left sees this election as so important. If with the mask off no one checks them, then they get to grind their boot into our collective faces forever.... Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2016 05:56 PM (X7E8f) 136
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:54 PM (qCMvj)
Just tune out what anybody in the MSM says today. Remember - they lie. They lie big time. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 07, 2016 05:56 PM (u0lmX) 137
If the GOP had been behind Trump, this would have been a landslide. Look what they've done and we are supposed to forget this? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (qCMvj) 138
What's to keep a shit ton of dudes from lying and collecting on face fucking them?
----------------- dick's honor? Posted by: RioBravo at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (NUqwG) 139
>>That emails released today show they thought Harwood was a pain in the ass and did not do his interviews because his audience was too small. Even after reading that, Harwood will still worship them.
They dumped all over David Brock too, basically calling him nuts. In fairness, that one is true. Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (/tuJf) 140
Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (hMqvx)
Much better, Much obliged. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (Q5Ymk) 141
Since Fox isn't worth a bucket of warm spit anymore, I'm questioning if I should be paying so much to watch the other two.
Netflix can get you old movies and MLB ticket gives you almost every game all year long, no reason to have cable just for that. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (39g3+) 142
Side bar "Blowjobs for voting against Donald Trump"
And if you vote for Hillary Clinton, all you get is fucked. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (QlyN5) 143
110 I am seriously thinking of getting rid of Directv and doing the Hulu, SlingTV, Netflix thing. Except I am tech impaired so not sure how difficult it would be - we did just get a new smart TV, that makes it easier, right?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (a0IVu) Tv doesn't have to be that smart I think. Better to get a streaming device (box or stick) to connect to your TV. If you prepay 3 months of SlingTV you can get a discount on.a rocky or Amazon FireTV I think. Or wait until Black Friday and get a box or a stick then - either Amazon FireTV or a Roku. Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (Om16U) 144
course, if we're done with fast food we can start the Hardwood wars.
---- I never even knew they fought each other. -------------- It was a helluva grind. Posted by: Nigel West Dickens It splintered into a crazy offshoot. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (el8j3) I'm going to throw out walnut, just to be combative. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (Q5Ymk) ----- I think knot!! Posted by: fixerupper at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (8XRCm) 145
There are 3'x5' posters on every corner of Broad Street in North Philly, a predominantly black section of the city, urging people to vote.
I may be wrong, but to me, that signals the Dems are worried. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (gA69l) 146
This is the probably why Wikileaks was a dud, at least for us.
It didn't give us any smoking guns, just clear evidence affirming what we've already known. We no longer might look like conspiracy theorists when screaming the media and the democrats are in full collusion but I'm sure all the dimwit voters out there are fapping off like a jackrabbit on speed that the media is doing God's work carrying water for the democrats. Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (G8TO0) Posted by: The Roman Empire at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (/WU0Q) 148
Why wouldn't they give Jeb a layup? He'S a Democrat.
Win win. Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it all tastes like chicken' at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (76Nj2) 149
I hold out hope for bitter, angry tears from these useless hacks tomm night.
Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at November 07, 2016 05:58 PM (0LQ4f) 150
Side bar "Blowjobs for voting against Donald Trump"
What's to keep a shit ton of dudes from lying and collecting on face fucking them? Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas Shhhhhhhhh! Dammit! Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 05:58 PM (el8j3) 151
In the future, assuming we have a future, can we please stop agreeing to these assholes' participation?
Posted by: Weasel at November 07, 2016 05:58 PM (Sfs6o) 152
I wouldn't face Fuck one of those broads with Caitlyn Jenners dick.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at November 07, 2016 05:58 PM (FqgrG) 153
Romney, if cancer, is luckily a *benign* rectal polyp. You just have to put up with his cr@p for another few days and then you can get rid of him
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 07, 2016 05:59 PM (NFLO+) 154
If the GOP had been behind Trump, this would have been a landslide.
Look what they've done and we are supposed to forget this? Posted by: artisanal 'ette That's really what kills me is that the GOP leaders kept taking head shots thinking eventually he would get some 20 point loss but here we are and its the closest we've been to winning in 8 years. If Hillary does win, it's going to be a squeaker, and people like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan calling him a racist rapist didn't help things. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 05:59 PM (d369m) Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 07, 2016 05:59 PM (R5HRU) 156
Cutting cable takes money out of the pockets of scum.
If Trump voters cut their cords, the media industry would take a massive hit. All those SJWs on all those cable stations, and at their media conglomerates, would collapse. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 05:59 PM (QlyN5) Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 07, 2016 06:00 PM (mgbwf) 158
In the future, assuming we have a future, can we please stop agreeing to these assholes' participation?
------------------------------------- We should limit participation to conservative assholes such as Hugh Hewitt. Posted by: RioBravo at November 07, 2016 06:00 PM (NUqwG) Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 06:00 PM (2WITp) 160
I would go to bed without watching the news tomorrow night, and wait until the next morning, but my husband won't let me, I know this. He'd come in and blare the winner, waking me up from a soothing dream. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:00 PM (qCMvj) 161
Grinding hardwoods isn't gutter? Sorry I'll try harder.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (FqgrG) 162
Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 05:55 PM (0cMkb)
He's a dufus. Where do they find these people? Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (Q5Ymk) 163
Trump should have turned his 10 thousand plus rallies into canvasing parties.
*********************** I've been to one of his rallies and this is precisely what his team does. They walk up and down the lines soliciting volunteers, asking for contact info, then querying them on how they can volunteer or get boots on the ground. Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (G8TO0) Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (el8j3) 165
110 I am seriously thinking of getting rid of Directv and doing the Hulu, SlingTV, Netflix thing. Except I am tech impaired so not sure how difficult it would be - we did just get a new smart TV, that makes it easier, right?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 05:53 PM (a0IVu) Tv doesn't have to be that smart I think. Better to get a streaming device (box or stick) to connect to your TV. If you prepay 3 months of SlingTV you can get a discount on.a rocky or Amazon FireTV I think. Or wait until Black Friday and get a box or a stick then - either Amazon FireTV or a Roku. Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 07, 2016 05:57 PM (Om16U) I just did this. I cut the cord and went with Sling TV. If you have good internet, it will get you shows. However, there are things TV has made us take for granted - DVR, for example. No such thing. On Demand - which there is SOME of in Sling. It takes a while to boot the app and then load menus and switch channels, so a bit harder to surf. It requires a bit more deliberativeness than the passive cable turn it on and click. Posted by: blaster at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (tewYv) 166
Tim Kaine is a bumbling imbecile.
That's the nicest thing I could say about him, and my mother always said if you can't say anything nice about someone then don't say anything at all Posted by: Orange Pantsuits for Hillary! at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (/MHOI) 167
I've been to one of his rallies and this is precisely what his team does. They walk up and down the lines soliciting volunteers, asking for contact info, then querying them on how they can volunteer or get boots on the ground.
Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 06:01 PM (G8TO0) oh, that is great. Thanks! Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:02 PM (qCMvj) 168
As far as a smart TV goes, We have a Smart TV with a Smart BluRay hooked to it and Rokus on the other TV's. All EZ to use. I like the Sony BluRay player the best. Netflix and Amazon prime are the two streaming services we like.
Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 06:02 PM (hMqvx) 169
We should limit participation to conservative assholes such as Hugh Hewitt.
Posted by: RioBravo Would still be a massive improvement. Even if it's Republican Establishment hacks, it's better than stupid questions like "when do you plan on banning birth control" or "how old do you think the Earth is" type questions. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:02 PM (d369m) Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 06:02 PM (2WITp) 171
"You still think Trump wins tomorrow?"
Yep. Turnout is the key variable. There's no scientific way to model this because the changes from 2012 are too stark, including because we have two candidates with ridiculously high negatives while we had one charismatic candidate the last time. So I worked this by looking at 2012 actuals by cohort and then handicapping where I thought turnout would come out. My assumptions: Black turnout will be down, and closer to where white non-college was in 2012. Trump will get 15%, not 7%. Black men will be reluctant to vote for the White Witch. White non-college will be up in turnout and % for Trump. This by far the largest cohort. And it weights to many battleground states. This is my biggest driver. You don't have to move this one lever very much. White college goes more for Hillary than Obama -- including because of suburban women -- but turnout can't get any higher than in 2012. Many who defect from the R party because Trump is a pussy grabber are mostly in Deep Blue states. My biggest assumption is that Hispanics won't vote for Hillary much differently than they did for Obama. He may even do better than Romney. Hispanics are mostly in Deep Blue states. Cubans in Miami aren't Mexicans. By using 2012 as a baseline I'm accepting a level of fraud for openers, especially in key cities like Philly. The EC favors Trump because smaller states get more weight. He could easily win the EC while being down 2% in the popular vote. Trump's messaging works well in swing states like OH, PA and MI. He's done well to date in FL. Riots in NC will help. Trump has had recent positive momentum in the honest polls. I conclude Trump winning the EC tight without the Shy Tory effect, which I think will add 2%. Pundits say that Trump must thread the needle to draw to an inside straight to climb up the insurmountable hill, but it's Hillary who has less room for error. If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI. Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (r1fLd) 172
Unrelated to the above, but Eric Metaxas book, If You Can Keep It, mentioned in yesterday's book thread, is $1.99 as an ebook. Great deal on a good book.
For my review of it, head over to Votermom's site - bookhorde.org Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (KMJC0) 173
If you get a couple of streaming services, its still cheaper than cable is for the year. Cable TV has gone up insanely, and they all advertise, I just don't get why they charge so much.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (39g3+) 174
My work IP is still banned if anyone gives a shit.
Posted by: Weasel at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (Sfs6o) 175
Trafalgar Group: Our Pennsylvania poll. Trump is up almost 2%. Larger Trump win with strong hidden vote likely in this state.
Trafalgar is a Republican outfit therefore their polls are partisan and inaccurate. Unlike WashPo/ABC, CNN, NBC/Survey etc. which is as pure as the driven snow in impartiality, and relies on truly scientific methods because they love science and accurate polling sexually. Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (G8TO0) 176
Republicans need to insist that we do away with this stupid notion that "moderators" are neutral. Let the Republican show up with his debate team - which will ask the Democrat candidate the questions they feel are important. The Democrat candidate can show up with his/her debate team to ask the Republican party questions.
3 debates, 3 different debate teams: governors, sitting members of Congress, journos (if you wish). But even the questions asked are a form of bias. Let Republican governors ask the Dem candidate about 10th amendment and States Rights. Let the Dem governors ask the Republican candidate about abortion or whatever is most pressing. But debates ARE partisan, why the pretense of impartiality? Posted by: scofflaw_x at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (y9ZJX) 177
If Rubio, Ayotte, Young, and Blount keep trending the way they have been, we're up to 50 in the Senate. A Burr or Heck win -and those really do look like coin flips- gets us to 51. If Trump loses, do those 51 have the spine to stop the Butcher of Benghazi?
Posted by: Ted K at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (seSmy) 178
The polls are all over the place today. No one knows what is going on. But I am still seeing a D+6 advantage for hillary in some polls and I honestly don't think that is going to happen. Especially seeing depressed Dem early voter turnout levels from 2012.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (iONHu) 179
I just did this. I cut the cord and went with Sling TV. If you have good internet, it will get you shows.
Good old antennas are viable again in the new digital age. Every channel in our market broadcasts multiple subchannels. We've got 25 channels or so of stuff that we actually watch, instead of hundreds of cable stations that we don't. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:05 PM (QlyN5) Posted by: Shep Smith at November 07, 2016 06:05 PM (OD2ni) 181
You think John Harwood's bad, just try dealing with that schmuck John Whorfin!!
Posted by: John Bigboote at November 07, 2016 06:05 PM (yMtCg) 182
Trump has had recent positive momentum in the honest polls.
I conclude Trump winning the EC tight without the Shy Tory effect, which I think will add 2%. Pundits say that Trump must thread the needle to draw to an inside straight to climb up the insurmountable hill, but it's Hillary who has less room for error. If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI. Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (r1fLd) the only issue I have is that I see her number climbing today This was the only analysis that gave me some hope. Market Indicator Gives Trump An 86% Chance Of Winning The Election http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/market-indicator-gives-trump-86-chance-winning-election but it was a couple days ago Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:05 PM (qCMvj) 183
I semi cut the cord, the stumbling block is my wife.
If it were up to me, just internet, NetFlix and an antenna is plenty. Plus I pirate. I'm trying Sony's Playstation Vue for a free trial, it's like a blend of live cable TV and DVR for $35 a month. A lot cheaper than my normal cable bill. The OS though is a bit clunky and slow. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:05 PM (d369m) 184
Posted by: Ted K at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (seSmy) Lemme go ahead and ruin the end of that film for you; No. Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (R5HRU) 185
The polls are all over the place today. No one knows what is going on. But I am still seeing a D+6 advantage for hillary in some polls and I honestly don't think that is going to happen. Especially seeing depressed Dem early voter turnout levels from 2012.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (iONHu) we said this last time Romney looked good. Then didn't. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (qCMvj) 186
I don't know how much the cord cutting takes out of asshole's pockets.
I had Verizon, and I was paying those guys a shit ton for STBs and remotes that I am glad to take off my bill. By going with Sling I am still putting some money in somebody's pocket, they still have licensing fees or what have you. Sling is owned by Dish so if Dish is assholish, well, they are getting that. But less of it. And I have the service without ESPN so those assholes arent getting my money. Since this would compete against their satellite service, I suspect it will never get really "good" Posted by: blaster at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (tewYv) 187
170
I meant Hardwood as in versus Carpet. ............ this war is usually fought with scissors. Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 06:02 PM (2WITp) What? Razors in my "neck' of the woods. Posted by: Nip Sip at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (NbJXF) 188
these traitors suffer no personal costs for their treason, so they continue to engage in it.
if you want to stop a behavior, you punish that behavior; you dont scold it when the perp laughs at the scolding Posted by: Grad School Fool at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (swEzU) 189
Yeah, nobody knows what is going to happen, all I know is the news is going to do its best to depress and demoralize Trump voters tomorrow. For Oregonians, the election is already over; if you didn't get your ballot in by Saturday, you are too late because it has to reach them by election day. So its already been decided here, its just a matter of counting and shredding.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (39g3+) 190
My work IP is still banned if anyone gives a shit.
My work AND home is. I only have access thru AT&T LTE on my phone. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (el8j3) 191
Pathetic. Go ahead and suck her dick Harwood. It looks good on you.
Posted by: Breakfast all day at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (nFwvY) Posted by: Lymond at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (2mv+1) 193
My husband and I are now going to cut the cable cord. The only reason we have it is because my 90 year old father loves sports, but we have a smart tv, an xbox one and a ps4 hooked into the tv, so we watched MLB all summer and can watch that all through the year. But he is a basketball fan and I need to find a way to watch bball games now. Can I get them through Sling, which is what my husband is leaning toward. We are in the Big 10 and have to watch those games.
Posted by: smoabb99 at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (HBU7W) 194
Let's not wax on and on over the methodology.
Posted by: garrett at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (hCJsF) 195
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (R5HRU)
Deep down (and even kinda shallow down), I guess I knew that. But I was hoping someone would lie to me. Posted by: Ted K at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (seSmy) 196
171, Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (r1fLd)
From your lips to God's ears. I'm still too scarred from 2012 to be optimistic. Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (a0IVu) 197
171/"Cubans in Miami aren't Mexicans. "
------ Wha? Seriously. Learn something new every day. Next you'll tell me Koreans aren't some kind of Chinese. Posted by: scofflaw_x at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (y9ZJX) 198
I'm guessing Burr will win as will Trump in NC.
Six more years of Burr. Plays the game well. For him. Posted by: Golfman at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (48QDY) 199
I have some chocolate pudding left over from 2012. Will it be OK to use just in case of a Trump win?
Posted by: Knaws at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (sS93S) 200
Pundits say that Trump must thread the needle to draw to an inside straight to climb up the insurmountable hill, but it's Hillary who has less room for error. If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI.
************* Lips ------------------> God's ears Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (G8TO0) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (qCMvj) 202
Wha? Seriously. Learn something new every day. Next you'll tell me Koreans aren't some kind of Chinese.
************** That's just crazy talk now. Posted by: #NeverHillary - #SchlongerTogether at November 07, 2016 06:08 PM (G8TO0) 203
Will it be OK to use just in case of a Trump win?
I wouldn't touch that with Chef's chocolate salty balls. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:08 PM (39g3+) 204
Term Limits, one and done.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 07, 2016 06:08 PM (0gWNf) 205
When you get internet only from your local provider, they charge more than if you got both cable and internet. Lousy bastards. So I'm stuck, neighbors tried ATT for internet and it was iffy.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 07, 2016 06:09 PM (6Ll1u) 206
Yeah, we pay over $160/month for our Directv package. It's insane really.
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:09 PM (a0IVu) 207
190 My work IP is still banned if anyone gives a shit.
My work AND home is. I only have access thru AT&T LTE on my phone. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (el8j3) Home is OK. Work IP is out. Where to turn? JJ? Posted by: Golfman at November 07, 2016 06:09 PM (48QDY) 208
"Side bar "Blowjobs for voting against Donald Trump"
What's to keep a shit ton of dudes from lying and collecting on face fucking them? Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas" I saw that. Aren't porn stars supposed to be at least somewhat attractive in order to achieve the intended purpose? Those two gals are fat and ugly. Posted by: Benji Carver at November 07, 2016 06:10 PM (OD2ni) 209
We used to go through ATT and it was poor. We have Comcast now and its super reliable but they throttle the hell out of us if we use much of it at once, to the point of crashing games in the middle. And they charge a ton. It would be nice to have real competition instead of dish or comcast.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (39g3+) 210
Those two gals are fat and ugly.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 07, 2016 06:10 PM (OD2ni) -------------------------------- Hence the low bar to entry. Posted by: RioBravo at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (NUqwG) 211
I conclude Trump winning the EC tight without the Shy Tory effect, which I think will add 2%.
Pundits say that Trump must thread the needle to draw to an inside straight to climb up the insurmountable hill, but it's Hillary who has less room for error. If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI. Posted by: Ignoramus It's a decent analysis, thanks for that. I just don't know anymore, on one hand I promised myself I would never get sucked into "poll doctoring" after 2012 on the other hand, I saw what happened in 2014 (polls were MASSIVELY wrong and favored Democrats) and then Brexit. I also think polling in general is sort of dead for a variety of reasons. There were once objective, scientific polling out fits that have instead decided this is just another weapon they can use to create events. I'm leaning slightly towards Trump winning, but I am a wreck, that's for sure. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (d369m) 212
If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (r1fLd) And we will have the jet fired up to flee to Qatar. For the children. Posted by: Jezebel Molach Clinton at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (cqzjS) 213
>> Pundits say that Trump must thread the needle to draw to an inside straight to climb up the insurmountable hill, but it's Hillary who has less room for error. If Trump wins FL and NC and start chilling the champagne. Pop the cork when he wins one more like PA or MI.
Every analyst I hear babble on always takes the angle of how terrible Trump is and what a steep hill he has to climb. They never mention that Hillary is quite possibly the worst candidate in modern times on any side. She has every advantage including a media that is completely in the tank for her and she is running neck and neck with Mr. Deplorable. Funny that. Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (/tuJf) 214
Wha? Seriously. Learn something new every day. Next you'll tell me Koreans aren't some kind of Chinese.
They're 'slightly irregulars.' Which, ironically, none of them can say. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:12 PM (QlyN5) Posted by: Yo! at November 07, 2016 06:12 PM (GwIKd) 216
Yeah, nobody knows what is going to happen, all I know is the news is going to do its best to depress and demoralize Trump voters tomorrow. For Oregonians, the election is already over; if you didn't get your ballot in by Saturday, you are too late because it has to reach them by election day. So its already been decided here, its just a matter of counting and shredding.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:06 PM (39g3+) Yeah, tomorrow will be all gas lighting all the time until the polls start to close, and even then states won't be reported honestly as in FL during Bush-Gore. Expect the same tomorrow, the MSM will NOT report western FL until as late as they possibly can, thus keeping FL in the Hillary! win column till late in the game. So... The important thing is to vote no matter what you're hearing- because unless it's an out and out Trump landslide they will try to hide his victories to suppress Trump votes and allow for Dim cheating. Vote and let's see them cry tomorrow tonight. Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 06:12 PM (0cMkb) 217
Madonna's giving beejers if you vote hillary and don't mind getting genital warts
Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 07, 2016 06:12 PM (nFwvY) 218
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 07, 2016 06:09 PM (6Ll1u)
I have sucky DSL. I can't get anything faster here. My security guy came and is going to put up an Internet tower or something on the ranch. I get free internet for life. It'll be faster than what I have now. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:13 PM (Q5Ymk) 219
At what point do the people decide that Harwood et al are not the "press" as used in the Bill of Rights and, therefore, nor entitled to its protections?
Posted by: Dick Poulin at November 07, 2016 06:13 PM (sMt7r) 220
that Obama feels some (sad) vindication at this demonstration of his
years-long point about the opposition party veering off the rails ...no doubt by actually opposing his wise and far-seeing policies that are best for all humanity, nay, even the intergalactic reaches praise his genius. And his modesty. Posted by: John 'That's Pronounced Whore-wood' Harwood at November 07, 2016 06:13 PM (nd1zx) Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 07, 2016 06:13 PM (0gWNf) 222
Actually seems like a decent and lazy way to get hard questions. Of course if it is common practice and not selective.
Posted by: The irredeemable DJT at November 07, 2016 06:14 PM (9dH/8) 223
>>>>The polls are all over the place today. No one knows what is going
on. But I am still seeing a D+6 advantage for hillary in some polls and I honestly don't think that is going to happen. Especially seeing depressed Dem early voter turnout levels from 2012. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (iONHu) we said this last time Romney looked good. Then didn't. . . . .Uh this is the opposite, Trump doesn't look good this time. The final ABC poll has a D+7 sample with hillary up by 4 and CBS has what appears to be a D+6 advantage with hillary leading by 3. obama is the only Democrat in modern history to get those levels of turnout and then only in 2008. In 2012 he only managed a D+4 and barely squeaked by Romney. Tomorrow will tell. No matter who wins they will be damaged goods and be a one and done President. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:14 PM (iONHu) 224
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Trump 70M votes Clinton 60M votes Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 07, 2016 06:13 PM (0gWNf) Is that your projection, MAGA? Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:14 PM (a0IVu) 225
Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (d369m)
Me too, I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. I have a nice bottle of champs in the wine fridge ready. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:15 PM (Q5Ymk) 226
One of these outed shitweasels, when asked for an explanation about why they were asking the DNC for questions to cover (I think it was Harwood, but they ALL fucking do it), said basically that this is nothing more than good journalistic practice.
So, if true, I would love dearly for just one of them to provide an example of them emailing the RNC and asking THEM for questions to toss at TFG or Hillary. I mean, they ought to be able to line up by the droves and show us examples. Priebus probably hasn't had a nap in years, his You Got Mail sound goes off so often from journos seeking question guidance. Not. Just more of the Big Lie. Posted by: GnuBreed at November 07, 2016 06:15 PM (b/kAv) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:15 PM (QlyN5) 228
I just don't know anymore, on one hand I promised myself I would never
get sucked into "poll doctoring" after 2012 on the other hand, I saw what happened in 2014 (polls were MASSIVELY wrong and favored Democrats) and then Brexit. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:11 PM (d369m) Amen, brother! And half of these websites get credit for things anyone could predict - Clinton will win California, New York, and DC! Trump will take Alabama, Texas, and North Dakota! Many others are too close to call! Brilliant analysis. I'm reminded of the football "expert" on the Simpsons who was right 52% of the time. Posted by: Ted K at November 07, 2016 06:15 PM (seSmy) 229
Posted by: smoabb99 at November 07, 2016 06:07 PM (HBU7W)
I am becoming convinced the cable news is a distraction from local issues you can actually do something about - like Prop 1 in ATX which is total crap and a money transfer to the politicians friends. Posted by: batterup at November 07, 2016 06:15 PM (mtGE/) 230
If Trump wins by some large margin you'll know it early on. The broadcasters will look panicky and horrified, close to weeping, like someone just told them they have bone cancer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:16 PM (39g3+) 231
We are a pessimistic bunch, aren't we? 2008 and 2012 (especially 2012) election night at the HQ was pretty damn depressing. Surely we are due for some good news.
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:17 PM (a0IVu) 232
Google just announced they will be releasing election results the moment polls close in each state. Why not just announce them now?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 07, 2016 06:17 PM (UBzPO) 233
How bad a candidate is Hillary? Her 94 Hillarycare campaign cost the dems their unbreakable sixty year lock pn the House. Even Reagan couldn't do that. Why do dems love her again?
Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 07, 2016 06:17 PM (nFwvY) 234
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:16 PM (39g3+)
Will the news readers announce that the voters had a temper tantrum? Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:18 PM (Q5Ymk) 235
OT:
The Navy can't fire its awesome new gun because the rounds cost nearly $1 million each Awesome. Posted by: blaster at November 07, 2016 06:18 PM (tewYv) 236
the JEF speaks Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers "In his 70 years on Earth, The Donald has never shown any regard for working folks," president tells University of Michigan. pjmedia Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:18 PM (qCMvj) 237
Will the news readers announce that the voters had a temper tantrum?
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:18 PM (Q5Ymk) I can just hear it now how hate beat hope, America is still too sexist to elect the Beast and crap like that Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:19 PM (493sH) 238
Uh this is the opposite, Trump doesn't look good this time. The final ABC poll has a D+7 sample with hillary up by 4 and CBS has what appears to be a D+6 advantage with hillary leading by 3. obama is the only Democrat in modern history to get those levels of turnout and then only in 2008. In 2012 he only managed a D+4 and barely squeaked by Romney.
Tomorrow will tell. No matter who wins they will be damaged goods and be a one and done President. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman I don't think Romney ever looked "strong" in the polling, state by state he was losing most of the battlegrounds like Florida and Ohio. I though Gallup the day before gave him +1 over Obama and was the only poll that had him ahead. It was clear though the trend was down after the Hurricane. Most of what people thought were undecided voters would break for the challenger. Here's the thing, if Democrats turn out +7 to Republicans, it almost doesn;t matter who runs as the election will already be determined. I don't think they exceed the coalition Obama put together. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:19 PM (d369m) 239
The question really isn't whether or not we can prove underhanded courtier-caste interference in the primary/general election selection process, is it? The question should be - how can we possibly push past media stranglehold on information dissemination?
Talk radio helped combat it ten-twenty years ago but radio has been largely supplanted by internet narrowcasting. Posted by: 13times at November 07, 2016 06:19 PM (WHVu+) 240
Depressed youth vote and many voting third party.
Lower black turnout...and a fair number voting for Trump. Constant reports of no Hillary signs in liberal areas. Occasional photo of anemic turnout at Hillary / Kaine "rallies". ALL of Hillary's speeches given at universities. And I predict catty, bitchy liberal women refusing to vote for the hag and just lying and saying they did. If the system weren't rigged and fairly rife with election fraud, I'd predict a Trump victory. But if the bitch wins, she can own the coming economic disaster. Good luck when the quality of free shit to the inner cities drops. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (zpCuR) 241
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers
"In his 70 years on Earth, The Donald has never shown any regard for working folks," president tells University of Michigan. pjmedia Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:18 PM (qCMvj) Like that arugula eating queen knows any "working folks" Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (493sH) 242
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:19 PM (493sH)
I can hear it too, please let us hear it. Vote Trump/piss off the media. Posted by: CaliGirl at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (Q5Ymk) 243
Does anyone have a projected call time chart for each state. The pros put one together based on closing time, historic reporting rate, and other factors. It's nice to have to see if blue states are not being called on time - NH, PA, NJ, and gasp NY.
Posted by: Jean at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (NPp2D) 244
At what point do the people decide that Harwood et al are not the "press" as used in the Bill of Rights and, therefore, nor entitled to its protections?
This remark suffers from a begged question. There are no special carve-outs for a journalist/press set of people. Inasmuch as Harwood and similar wankers are treated as having special privileges... they don't. Not constitutionally. Ace has equal special rights to be journalisty as Harwood does, by an originalist read. The freedom of the press is intertwined with the essential freedoms of speech. No "journalist" has rights to say anything (or collude outside the law) in any way fundamentally different than a citizen. Special freedoms are an extraordinary claim. We as citizens are supposed to have more than we do, but Harwood sure as shit isn't an exalted class and there must be a reckoning. Which I suppose will dovetail with your point, from another direction. Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (eXSOZ) 245
Yes.
I'm completely unbiased. My theory is that Trump made the appropriate policy changes necessary to expand the vote haul. I also think that black voting will return to normal levels (as verified in early voting). Both those things will hurt Hillary in addition to her general untrustworthiness among the general population. Also there are cyclical things going on that help Trump. Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (0gWNf) 246
>>>>>The Navy can't fire its awesome new gun because the rounds cost nearly $1 million each
Awesome. . . . .We had that same problem in the Army when the Dragon Anti-tank missile came out back in the 1970's. They cost so much no one could actually practice firing them. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (iONHu) 247
I'm trying Sony's Playstation Vue for a free trial,
it's like a blend of live cable TV and DVR for $35 a month. A lot cheaper than my normal cable bill. The OS though is a bit clunky and slow. Posted by: Maritime ----- That's interesting. I own a PS4, so I'll have to check that out. I really, really want to cut the cable cord, but my wife is fighting it. Posted by: Biergood at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (v8Lx/) 248
blaster - A President Hillary will fix that because that will be 1 mill less for the Foundation
Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (sWbjH) 249
Has it occurred to anyone else that, over the last ten years or so, all of the blogging, alternative media., etc., has not moved the needle one iota in the direction of constitutional conservatism? Either we're doing it wrong, or this dog just ain't gonna hunt.
Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (LBO1U) 250
Will the news readers announce that the voters had a temper tantrum?
They won't be far off. Voters are very, very angry and upset with how things have been going, this is just a test of how angry? Mad enough to overcome the Democrat fraud machine? Time will tell. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (39g3+) Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (0gWNf) 252
I'm lucky and in line of sight for most of the broadcast channels coming out of LA, 147 channels now. I use Netflix too, get plenty of sports and all the networks and really more than I can watch. But if you don't live where you can get such antenna coverage you have to have more than just Netflix.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (6Ll1u) 253
Your smart friends are already here!
Posted by: Belize! at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (FXW24) 254
We are a pessimistic bunch, aren't we? 2008 and 2012 (especially 2012) election night at the HQ was pretty damn depressing. Surely we are due for some good news.
Posted by: IC ___________ Am I wrong in remembering that this website just sort of "checked out" in 2012 with the" decision desk" feature when the election wasn't going our way? Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (d369m) 255
176 Republicans need to insist that we do away with this stupid notion that "moderators" are neutral. Let the Republican show up with his debate team - which will ask the Democrat candidate the questions they feel are important. The Democrat candidate can show up with his/her debate team to ask the Republican party questions.
Posted by: scofflaw_x at November 07, 2016 06:04 PM (y9ZJX) This. Never happen though - not retarded enough. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (SRKgf) 256
Why would they want to be hostile to Jeb? Jeb is one of them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (v9gSJ) 257
Remember all this when the proposal comes round for a taxpayer bailout of the MSM "because First Amendment watchdog."
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (wKjEy) 258
Unrelated to the above, but Eric Metaxas book, If
You Can Keep It, mentioned in yesterday's book thread, is $1.99 as an ebook. Great deal on a good book. For my review of it, head over to Votermom's site - bookhorde.org Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 07, 2016 06:03 PM (KMJC0) ========================================== Eric Metaxas is really good. He's the guy who convinced me I could vote for Trump and not burn in hell. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (dFi94) 259
252 I'm lucky and in line of sight for most of the broadcast channels coming out of LA, 147 channels now. I use Netflix too, get plenty of sports and all the networks and really more than I can watch. But if you don't live where you can get such antenna coverage you have to have more than just Netflix.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 07, 2016 06:21 PM (6Ll1u) DVDs from your local library? That's what we use. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 07, 2016 06:23 PM (SRKgf) 260
Harwood's hair and face are annoying.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 07, 2016 06:23 PM (v9gSJ) 261
Either we're doing it wrong, or this dog just ain't gonna hunt.
The internet has proven worthless at reaching out and bringing in new people, its just one huge echo chamber. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2016 06:23 PM (39g3+) 262
If nothing else I havd thought Trump is a one and done president, but only because I don't see him wantinb a 2nd. Pence will take over nicely though.
Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2016 06:23 PM (sWbjH) 263
Dope of the Day Celeb James Taylor 'Baffled' Why People Don't Trust 'Honest' Hillary newsbusters.org Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:23 PM (qCMvj) 264
Tomorrow night the polling accuracy wars will start and we will see nothing but articles on why the polls were so far off. A repeat of 2014 and 2015.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:24 PM (iONHu) 265
I'm hoping for a Trump landslide that's obvious early on.
Those of you old enough to remember Reagan (if you were paying attention)- have to recall just how delightful it was to see the MSM anchors looking more and more depressed and angry as the evening rolled on as Reagan won state after state. And sooner or later all of them broke on air with the passive-aggressive snotty little snarks or angry blurts. Come on people. Let's vote and hope for the best! Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 06:24 PM (0cMkb) 266
We need to have a moron meetup sometime. Ought to. There's enough of a contingent spanning Winston-Salem to points west of Asheville it should be doable.
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 06:24 PM (eXSOZ) 267
btw, Rush said he had a "rumor" whispered in his ear that Obama wants to fire Comey, but wouldn't do it until after the election Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:25 PM (qCMvj) 268
Dope of the Day
Celeb James Taylor 'Baffled' Why People Don't Trust 'Honest' Hillary newsbusters.org ====================================== Why can't they just shut up and sing? Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:25 PM (dFi94) 269
Like that arugula eating queen knows any "working folks"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (493sH) She knows the field hands that till her White House Garden, just not their names! Posted by: Hrothgar at November 07, 2016 06:26 PM (wCEn4) 270
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers So maids and mowers built those buildings he put up? Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (lKyWE) 271
That's interesting. I own a PS4, so I'll have to check that out. I really, really want to cut the cable cord, but my wife is fighting it.
Posted by: Biergood Same at my household, I just finally cut it over her objection because it had creeped up to like $180 with basic cable and internet, no premium channels and no DVR or cable box. It was ridiculous. Also, the media really going off the deep end with SJW nonsense like ESPN, etc really pushed me as well. My wife has sort of been placated with the Sony Vue, the funny think is 99% of our viewing is still Netflix. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (d369m) 272
Lighten up lebowski
Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (nFwvY) 273
Oh lawd, it looks like there's more than one McMullinite on my car forum. The second one might not even be Mormon.
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (eXSOZ) 274
okay 273 is over the line
Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (dFi94) 275
Come on people. Let's vote and hope for the best!
Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 06:24 PM (0cMkb) I'm voting first thing tomorrow morning. I hope one of the donks who sit outside with their flyers featuring scumbags du jour try to push Hellary on me. I have my own little psychodrama ready for them. Posted by: kallisto at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (nNdYv) 276
It really is just one great big incestuous fuckfest.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 07, 2016 06:28 PM (0mRoj) 277
the JEF speaks
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers "In his 70 years on Earth, The Donald has never shown any regard for working folks," president tells University of Michigan. 'Cept all those workin' folks he's hired. In all those businesses he's started. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 06:28 PM (el8j3) 278
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers
So maids and mowers built those buildings he put up?>>> Is there that much lawn at Trump Tower that he needs mowers? Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2016 06:28 PM (tf9Ne) 279
okay 273 is over the line
Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:27 PM (dFi94) yep, CLEANUP Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:28 PM (qCMvj) 280
Google just announced they will be releasing election results the moment polls close in each state.
Good luck with that, dinks. The states themselves often don't know what's up at that point. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (QlyN5) 281
>>>also, can't wait till drop the niceties and just start killing some motherfuckers
Posted by: the dude at November 07, 2016 06:26 PM (SyKbw) Leave Oedipus alone, he's one of us!! Posted by: John Bigboote at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (yMtCg) 282
I've liked the LA Times poll a lot this season. I especially like it as an accurate gauge of voter movement toward a candidate.
At Trump +8, I have a hard time believing it. But it does accurately show a 6 point move in Trump's direction in the last week. This is a critical difference over 2012. There Romney had a lead, but the last few days of momentum went to Obama. You can't say that this year. Final momentum is all toward Trump. Trump sounded very confident of winning FL, NC, and MI today, and Obama going to MI shows that is where the battleground is. Remember Trump was strong there, and Clinton lost to Bernie after the polls said she would easily win. So we will see. Trump has a chance here, a lot depends on how many of those early Dem votes were actually for Trump. One nutty thing the final Fox poll says Hillary by 4 or 5, but it also says 96% of Dems will vote for Clinton. I flat out don't believe that one. Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (wfDW1) 283
Dang I missed the McMuffin thread.
In fast and testimony meeting during church yesterday (Mormons do a collective fast the first Sunday of every month), our Bishop (pastor) bore his testimony on the importance of voting and voting your conscience. (Did not say how to vote just that we should.) He started to talk about how every vote counts, and someone from the congregation actually shouted out at him "that's not true!" He kept trying to refute but the Bishop was finally able to silence him and continue his testimony. I have never ever seen that happen in my life, no one ever rebuts someone's testimony. Unheard of. Unprecedented. Mormons are raised to be civically minded, they vote. All the "good" Mormons I know are either fully on the McMuffin train and happily say so, or they are silent (which I hope means they are voting Trump begrudgingly.) Went to a party Saturday, my political wonk friend is all in for McMuffin and he was even wearing his shirt, sigh. Ugh I both fear and hope for tomorrow to come soon and swift, and finally be over with. Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (hvf9s) 284
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers
So maids and mowers built those buildings he put up?>>> Is there that much lawn at Trump Tower that he needs mowers? Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2016 06:28 PM (tf9Ne) you see how they try to mindtrick people? it is CLINTON in the news with her maid doing illegal stuff, and Clinton behind the illegal activity Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (qCMvj) 285
Can a COB keep the dude from abiding at 273?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (kDUMP) 286
Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers
I thought Trump was well known for hanging out at construction sites. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (QlyN5) 287
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2016 06:20 PM (iONHu)
Like so many things, just because you can propose and build a really sexy high tech solution to a problem, doesn't mean that producing it will actually "solve" the problem. Posted by: Hrothgar at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (wCEn4) 288
Cleanup on 273.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (QlyN5) 289
I wasn't born with enough middle fingers to let this guy know how I feel about him.
Posted by: F Hillary at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (3aBcq) 290
Celeb James Taylor 'Baffled' Why People Don't Trust 'Honest' Hillary
............. This is your brain on decades of drugs. Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (2WITp) 291
One nutty thing the final Fox poll says Hillary by 4 or 5, but it also says 96% of Dems will vote for Clinton. I flat out don't believe that one.
--------------- That's what I don't know about these polls. What sort of turnout models they are expecting. I just cannot see Hillary drawing the same turnout that Obama did - from any group. Posted by: SH at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (gmeXX) 292
:::turns off Buckaroo cloaking device:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (yMtCg) 293
Posted by: John Bigboote at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM
Please don't quote the troll/moby It makes clean-up harder. Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (0cMkb) 294
And there was John Limpwood again. I know it wouldn't matter but these Wikileak emails need to be rubbed in the face of CNBC. Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (493sH) 295
Best BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST hecklers yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VALDwnY0CU with added rape whistle goodness Posted by: kallisto at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (nNdYv) 296
I thought Trump was well known for hanging out at construction sites.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (QlyN5) Truth is no defense against the progressive narrative! Posted by: Hrothgar at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (wCEn4) 297
Stone and I will be giving blowjobs for every Not Trump vote!
Posted by: Pebble at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (xIunr) 298
I haven't been this anxious about an election in a very long time. Ugh.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (0mRoj) 299
It's corrupt donkeys all the way down.
Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (V+B19) 300
Leave Oedipus alone, he's one of us!!
Posted by: John Bigboote at November 07, 2016 06:29 PM (yMtCg) yikes, don't cut and paste that garbage it needs to be deleted by Ace or Cobs Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (qCMvj) 301
"Obama: Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers
So maids and mowers built those buildings he put up?" --------- That would be the only working people Obama knows. I bet he doesn't know what any other working class jobs are even called. Posted by: Decaf at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (8zHLN) 302
".Uh this is the opposite, Trump doesn't look good this time. The final ABC poll has a D+7 sample with hillary up by 4 and CBS has what appears to be a D+6 advantage with hillary leading by 3. obama is the only Democrat in modern history to get those levels of turnout and then only in 2008. In 2012 he only managed a D+4 and barely squeaked by Romney."
As I said above, it's hard to poll for turnout this cycle. Many polls clearly overweight Ds. They also underweight INDs who are strongly pro-Trump. My approach is to use 2012 as a baseline and then make an honest assessment of how I think turnout will change. I could be wrong but its more likely to be right than assuming I'm running a scientific poll where Hillary gets meaningfully higher D turnout than Obama did in 2012. FFS, one of the major network polls did a survey to project turnout but threw it out because it turned out "too old and too white" (their words). Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (r1fLd) Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (0cMkb) 304
Heh
I read 274 as 273 and was it the arugula? Posted by: Yo! at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (GwIKd) 305
Is your ass jealous of the shit that just came out of your mouth?
Posted by: F Hillary at November 07, 2016 06:32 PM (3aBcq) 306
One nutty thing the final Fox poll says Hillary by 4 or 5, but it also says 96% of Dems will vote for Clinton. I flat out don't believe that one.
Posted by: Dave in Fla Thanks Dave in Fla, good to see you around here again. I agree with the analysis you gave, I feel both that Trump is stronger in the polling numbers, with momentum, and simply with engaging the grassroots than Romney was. AND Hillary is no OBAMA that can draw in that coalition at 110%. Definitely see a big opening for Trump to get to 270. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:33 PM (d369m) 307
Best BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST hecklers yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VALDwnY0CU with added rape whistle goodness Posted by: kallisto at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (nNdYv) lol, love it Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:33 PM (qCMvj) 308
Also, the media really going off the deep end with SJW nonsense like ESPN, etc really pushed me as well.
---- It's the main reason for me. It really grinds my gears to think even a single penny of my money is going to support that crap. Posted by: Biergood at November 07, 2016 06:33 PM (v8Lx/) 309
Clean-up complete
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 07, 2016 06:33 PM (J+eG2) 310
imagine:
Jeb! was the nominee Trump declined to support him Jeb! loses to Hillery Trump cost us the election!! it is probably fortunately that we most likely won't have a Bush Dynasty to challenge the Clinton/Obama crime syndicate, unless the latter group wants to make sure Moochelle and and Chelsea won't have any real opposition when they run for office. Posted by: mallfly suPreme at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (2JQBv) 311
254, Am I wrong in remembering that this website just
sort of "checked out" in 2012 with the" decision desk" feature when the election wasn't going our way? Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:22 PM (d369m) I don't know if the HQ checked out in 2012; I did after popping some melatonin. Too damn depressed for a good few days. This year I cannot do that because Wednesday is my daughter's birthday - so I do need to have my happy face on. Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (a0IVu) 312
Out of the whole MUMR script library, I like "get your mars to my ass" best. Don't really know why.
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (eXSOZ) 313
I haven't been this anxious about an election in a very long time. Ugh. Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 07, 2016 06:31 PM (0mRoj) ============================================= Oddly, I haven't been this calm about an election since, gee - I guess - ever. Not including Ronnie's second term. I had no worries about that one. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (dFi94) 314
The only "working folks" Barry knows are union leaders who funnel tons of money to the DNC. Working folks. That limpwristed twat Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:35 PM (493sH) 315
As I said above, it's hard to poll for turnout this cycle. Many polls clearly overweight Ds. They also underweight INDs who are strongly pro-Trump.
My approach is to use 2012 as a baseline and then make an honest assessment of how I think turnout will change. I could be wrong but its more likely to be right than assuming I'm running a scientific poll where Hillary gets meaningfully higher D turnout than Obama did in 2012. FFS, one of the major network polls did a survey to project turnout but threw it out because it turned out "too old and too white" (their words). Posted by: Ignoramus If I were a polling outfit, I would simply take the last 4 election cycles (2014, 2012, 2010, 200 I don't think many people would argue with that lineup. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:35 PM (d369m) 316
Oddly, I haven't been this calm about an election since, gee - I guess - ever. Not including Ronnie's second term. I had no worries about that one.
Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (dFi94) Really? Why so calm? Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 07, 2016 06:35 PM (0mRoj) 317
In 2008 & 2012 I ended up crying on the couch after watching the election results. That could have been too much wine but it was really too much Obama.
This year, not a Fuck will be given. Lesson learned, if America wants to go down like this is there nothing I can do but sit back and watch it burn. Posted by: F Hillary at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (3aBcq) 318
Are you on the marijuana?
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (0mRoj) 319
>>> Celeb James Taylor 'Baffled' Why People Don't Trust 'Honest' Hillary
............. This is your brain on decades of drugs. Posted by: wth at November 07, 2016 06:30 PM (2WITp) A mentor of mine was a JUGE James Taylor fan, went to hear him many times. Died several years ago of a brain tumor. I'm not saying James Taylor's music caused the tumor in his brain that killed him...but I'm NOT not saying either... Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (hvf9s) 320
Soros has unleashed the troll brigade on us, again. Sigh. Where is that can of Raid?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (a0IVu) Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (nFwvY) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (qCMvj) 323
I'm in a much better mood today. Course I did go to Mass yesterday.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 07, 2016 06:37 PM (yMtCg) 324
I'm not saying James Taylor's music caused the tumor in his brain that killed him...but I'm NOT not saying either...
Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2016 06:36 PM (hvf9s) James Taylor was a wife abuser. Posted by: kallisto at November 07, 2016 06:37 PM (nNdYv) 325
>>Oddly, I haven't been this calm about an election since, gee - I guess - ever. Not including Ronnie's second term. I had no worries about that one.
I'm really not that nervous either. I've lost a lot of faith in the electorate of this country over the last 8 years so I don't expect that much out of them anymore. If people can't see that Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit for any public office let alone the Presidency then we may be past the point of no return. No point in worrying about it anymore. Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 06:38 PM (/tuJf) 326
Wasn't James Taylor married to Carly Simon? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:38 PM (a0IVu) 327
Celeb James Taylor 'Baffled' Why People Don't Trust 'Honest' Hillary The Atlantic said everybody loves her though. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2016 06:38 PM (IqV8l) 328
Well ... fivethirtyeight continually revises Trump's chances down. I have no idea how reliable they are. Have looked at their methodology, their weighting of various polls. Can't see anything consistent that jumps out at me.
My gut two weeks ago was take the totals and shift the reported margin of error away from Hillary to Trump - as most media polls would still try to subtly shift margins to Hillary while covering their ass by staying within the MOE. Doesn't matter I reckon. Voting Trump regardless. Whomever don't like it can kiss my ass. Not like I'm Mr. Popularity anyway. Posted by: ScoggDog at November 07, 2016 06:39 PM (fiGNd) 329
Nood
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 07, 2016 06:39 PM (Enq6K) 330
For those of us playing the home version of our game...
Never quote Troll comments that are being called out for deletion. Simply give the post number. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled show. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 07, 2016 06:39 PM (J+eG2) 331
"and he's pass a lie detector on that"
-------- Ace no, you and Bernie Goldberg give them too much credit. Harwood and lefties like him in the media are and always have been consciously colluding against us, or "other" as they call anyone with a different philosophy. I always assumed that they actively plotted, either by phone or in person. I never thought they would be so careless as to do it in writing. Whoever is behind these Wikileaks dumps is to be thanked for letting us all have a look behind the curtain, nothing will ever be the same again. Posted by: Decaf at November 07, 2016 06:39 PM (8zHLN) 332
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And he still has a job at CNBC. As do Tapper and Blitzer at CNN. Tells you everything you need to know about their commitment to "journalism". Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 05:43 PM (/tuJf) ====They get paychecks. They are doing exactly what they are paid to do. Nothing will change as long as the faceless people behind the paychecks feel no discomfort. All these "journalists" are just whores. And replacement whores are easy to hire. I want to see the people that are paying these whores, and the next whores, and the whores after that, taken down. The "press" is a big typographic machine that would allow any person (such as Nathan Hale or Thomas Paine) to print pamphlets. Freedom of the press is guaranteed by the 1st Amendment and it should be. It should be recognized clearly that "the media" is not "the press." The constitution prohibits titles of nobility, and there is no right for some self-appointed group to claim nobility for themselves by falsely calling themselves "the press." I am no real fan of the direction Teddy Roosevelt sent our country in. However, I am reaching the point where if a new TR were to say that "the media trusts" must be broken up in order to restore freedom of the press, I would at least listen. Posted by: jc at November 07, 2016 06:40 PM (iRJ+A) 333
noot Posted by: Soothsayer at November 07, 2016 06:40 PM (rW4yT) 334
>>Wasn't James Taylor married to Carly Simon? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Yep. Carly had a really nice club on Martha's Vineyard called Hot Tin Roof. Of course that was back when singers just sang instead of being full time pundits. Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (/tuJf) 335
Oddly, I haven't been this calm about an election since, gee - I guess - ever. Not including Ronnie's second term. I had no worries about that one.
Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:34 PM (dFi94) Really? Why so calm? Posted by: Insomniac Out of our hands. Nothing we can do about it now. Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (el8j3) 336
Insomniac - no. I'm not on marijuana
I've just been daily choosing to move forward in faith, not fear. I won't let fear rule me. Not anymore. Nothing that will happen is taking God by surprise. He has a plan, and I trust that plan. Maybe His plan is judgment. Maybe His plan is mercy. He's God. I'm not. I trust Him. So I pray, then I'll vote, then I'll pray again. But I'll tell you what - there is no safer place, no calmer place, than in the arms of God. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (dFi94) 337
What is funny is when Greg shows up to make fun of the current trolls
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (wfDW1) 338
340 I'm in a much better mood today. Course I did go to Mass yesterday.
Me too, My assoc pastor is fro Peru, Very hard to understand but he could be a Moron. Very nice guy he has no trouble speaking his mind. Posted by: USNtakim at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (hMqvx) 339
>>>Only Working People Trump Knows are His Maids and Mowers<<<<
The last working man Obama talked to was Joe the plumber. Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (x3uSY) 340
I'm really not that nervous either. I've lost a lot of faith in the electorate of this country over the last 8 years so I don't expect that much out of them anymore.
If people can't see that Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit for any public office let alone the Presidency then we may be past the point of no return. No point in worrying about it anymore. Posted by: JackStraw I just keep getting sucked in. I had sort of written America off politically after Obama, than 2010 came around and snapped back. Then 2012, I again just sort of thought it was over. Than 2014 was even a bigger middle finger to Obama. I thought Trump was DOA as our nominee even though I liked the platform a lot, and then he started moving up and even beating Hillary in the polls. I knew people that weren't political suddenly get fired up about Trump being President. So I'll definitely be more pissed if we came this close only to get our herts broken. 3 weeks or so ago, I thought it was going to be close but Hillary would win and had just sort of accepted it. Now I'm slightly leaning Trump. Posted by: Maritime at November 07, 2016 06:42 PM (d369m) 341
>> Wasn't James Taylor married to Carly Simon? Or am I thinking of someone else?
James Taylor was married to Simon LeBon. Who is the son of Carly Simon and Art Garfunkel. Posted by: garrett at November 07, 2016 06:42 PM (hCJsF) 342
Psalm 34:4 - I sought the Lord. And He answered me and delivered me from all of my fears.
Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:42 PM (dFi94) 343
Wasn't James Taylor married to Carly Simon? Or am I thinking of someone else?
================================== Yeah, they were married. They had a son and a daughter, I think, that sing with them (one or the other) on occasion. Good voices and they harmonize well with their dad. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:44 PM (dFi94) 344
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Psalm 34:4 - I sought the Lord. And He answered me and delivered me from all of my fears. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:42 PM (dFi94 Amen to that. Plan to be at Bible Study tomorrow night and a quiet hour or two of reflection. Posted by: IC at November 07, 2016 06:45 PM (a0IVu) 345
That would be the only working people Obama knows. I bet he doesn't know what any other working class jobs are even called.
Posted by: Decaf --------- I'm convinced if you could force him to describe what people are doing everyday on a typical construction site, he'd say something like, "Hitting things with hammers. Drilling stuff." Posted by: Biergood at November 07, 2016 06:46 PM (v8Lx/) Posted by: F Hillary at November 07, 2016 06:46 PM (3aBcq) 347
KurtEichenwald Kurt Eichenwald #Eichenwald's not only ego-maniacal & nuts, he once was admin of child porn site bit.ly/2e82Zr7
Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 06:47 PM (y3aQB) 348
338 Insomniac - no. I'm not on marijuana
I've just been daily choosing to move forward in faith, not fear. I won't let fear rule me. Not anymore. Nothing that will happen is taking God by surprise. He has a plan, and I trust that plan. Maybe His plan is judgment. Maybe His plan is mercy. He's God. I'm not. I trust Him. So I pray, then I'll vote, then I'll pray again. But I'll tell you what - there is no safer place, no calmer place, than in the arms of God. Posted by: grammie winger - Fly the W at November 07, 2016 06:41 PM (dFi94) Amen and amen. Preach it, sister! Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 07, 2016 06:47 PM (VnCI9) 349
For any baby boomers here please move on and try some new music.
You all have ruined America enough with The Beatles, Bread, Disco music and Hillary! Posted by: F Hillary at November 07, 2016 06:48 PM (3aBcq) Posted by: Evilpens at November 07, 2016 06:49 PM (y3aQB) 351
"If I were a polling outfit, I would simply take the last 4 election cycles (2014, 2012, 2010, 200 and just average them and make that the template for Rs , Ds and Independents."
Normally it would work, and it'd be better than just assuming 2012, which is what many pollsters are doing. But this is an unusual cycle which will IMHO have very different turnout patterns, as well as shifts in voting patterns. Trump loses from some combination of (1) white non-college not showing up, (2) substantial R defections because of pussy grabbing, and (3) a huge anti-Trump Hispanic wave. I expect white non-college will far outweigh #2, and #3 won't happen. Posted by: Ignoramus at November 07, 2016 06:56 PM (r1fLd) 352
Those of you old enough to remember Reagan (if you were paying attention)- have to recall just how delightful it was to see the MSM anchors looking more and more depressed and angry as the evening rolled on as Reagan won state after state. Good times, good times. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 07, 2016 07:01 PM (SRKgf) Posted by: @grandhipoohbah at November 07, 2016 07:31 PM (7vIl3) 354
"The only "working folks" Barry knows are union leaders who funnel tons of money to the DNC. Working folks. That limpwristed twat
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 07, 2016 06:35 PM (493sH)" ------------ Yep, particularly the ones who coordinate with Creamer to intimidate Republicans. Posted by: Decaf at November 07, 2016 07:35 PM (8zHLN) 355
They talk about "pizza" a lot huh?
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 07, 2016 08:01 PM (NAv1Q) 356
I was putting my bags on the conveyor in the TSA pre-check line yesterday morning at Dulles airport when my wife looked back and noticed John Podesta standing right behind me. I turned around and sure enough he was right there - with a big Hillary pin on his lapel. It was surreal and I hate to admit that I was tongue tied. I had about 15 seconds to say whatever I wanted to that SOB but said nothing as he ran off to his flight. I've since thought of a zillion things I could have said but didn't. What would any of you said in that situation? BTW, he is all of 5'8" and 135 lbs.
Posted by: Murph at November 07, 2016 09:38 PM (6myZx) 357
It's not us that needs reminding, it's the idiots at the RNC who keep giving shitbags like Harwood and Crowley etc al the microphone....
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