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RIP Steven Den Beste of the USS Clueless, One of the Most Insightful of the First Wave of Bloggers

He had a mossy mind, vibrant and always looking for new cracks to dig into.

He was also, at least for a short time, a guest blogger here.

I had always thought Den Beste was an exciting writer, in the sense that you never really knew what kind of Learning Adventure you'd be going on when you clicked on his blog. He had a Renaissance Man's mind; he seemed to know a great many things, and fairly esoteric ones besides, and could explain them with clarity and a great deal of speed -- zippiness.

He'd just introduce new terms to some discussion you'd never heard from anyone else -- you know, how most people are content to regurgitate the same tribal received wisdom they heard from a blogger, some talking head on tv, or a comedian. (!)

Den Beste eschewed that and instead only contributed to a conversation when he actually had something to contribute. (What an idea -- to only speak when you have something interesting or novel to say! How "Web 1.0"!)

I remember thinking "No one has ever said this before" when he discussed the "scaling problems" inherent in alternative energy. (I can't find the old USS Clueless post on this, but in 2008 he responded to a reader who had stumbled across that old post.)

Another huge a-ha moment came for me when I read his post on Tit-For-Tat in game theory, and its applications to real world competitions (primarily, in war and in politics.)

That's another column I can't seem to reach via the Internet, but at the end of this post I quote extensively from it.

Update: Thanks to Mama AJ, here's an archived copy of the Prisoner's Dilemma/Tit for Tat post.

I should say that Den Beste belonged to a pre-professional blogging age (such as it may well be), a novice/hobbyist phase, when writers would just write about whatever interested them at that moment, whether it "fit the format" or whatever. Rather like I've heard FM radio was when it first came out, as opposed to heavily-programmed/demographically-targeted AM.)

Instapundit did that and still does. Personally, though I've always preferred that kind of blogging, I've largely abandoned it, mostly to focus on politics, which I find increasingly hateful.

Eh, given that I'm going to be seguing more and more out of "conservative" politics, maybe I'll try to get back to more Den Beste style blogging.

I really can't tell you how much respect I had for him. He really was just a tremendously curious person -- he liked learning things, and he liked sharing what he'd learned. As I get older myself, it occurs to me that that sort of perpetual delight in learning is really the only way to keep one's brain in a youngish state.

A true gem of a mind. I wish I'd met him, and I surely wish his body had some of the youth and vitality of his brain.

All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.

Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM




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1 Firstest.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2016 03:13 PM (sWbjH)

2 Where is everyone.

Posted by: marinemom at October 25, 2016 03:14 PM (ep6ak)

3 RIP good sir.

Posted by: Vanceone at October 25, 2016 03:14 PM (IQzhs)

4 thrippy!

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)- deplorable, irredeemable, racist, islamaphobe, misogynist, redneck in TEX at October 25, 2016 03:14 PM (JNDQi)

5 Can't say ever read him. Sorry to have to say that.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2016 03:14 PM (sWbjH)

6 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 25, 2016 03:15 PM (GwIKd)

7 Yeah, most people slow down on the learning when they hit 30.

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 03:15 PM (7zeA4)

8 (Joking, of course: School typically kills people's desire for learning. However bad a job we've done homeschooling the kids, I figure they're ahead for not having to UNlearn the bad habits school teaches.)

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 03:16 PM (7zeA4)

9 Ha!

Top ten baby

Posted by: Yo! at October 25, 2016 03:16 PM (GwIKd)

10 He was the first blogger I read reliably. He will be missed.

Posted by: marinemom at October 25, 2016 03:16 PM (ep6ak)

11
It's sad that his blog went down too. I'd like to think he turned out the lights himself...


Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:17 PM (qP3+D)

12 Good on ya, Ace. I will be pulling for you since once this election cycle is over, so is politics for me. There are other perspectives on life than just politics and ideology. I will be trying those perspectives out for myself.

Godspeed to Den.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 25, 2016 03:17 PM (4ng05)

13 I got thrippy today and mailed out a batch of **exclusive, attendee only** AoSHQ Texas meet up commemorative vinyl decals......

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)- deplorable, irredeemable, racist, islamaphobe, misogynist, redneck in TEX at October 25, 2016 03:17 PM (JNDQi)

14 I always felt like I needed to read more Den Beste. That alternative energy post was up there with Whittle's Pink/Grey tribe post and (not a post but pretty contemporaneous) Michael Crichton's Environmentalism/Religion talk.

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 03:18 PM (7zeA4)

15 So we'll see a return to the "smart " Ace blog?
Yay!

(Seriously. I'm out of fvucks for politics)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 25, 2016 03:18 PM (C9pBZ)

16 He had a Renaissance Man's mind;

I get that alot too.

All the time.

Constantly.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 25, 2016 03:19 PM (XAbde)

17 Here Ace:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160118152349/http://denbeste.nu/archives.shtml

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:19 PM (gTQoY)

18
But it Politics out of fucks for you?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:19 PM (qP3+D)

19 Didn't anyone else who grows plants out there think of "covered with thrips" for "thrippy?"

Posted by: TB at October 25, 2016 03:19 PM (v2cR1)

20 Personally, though I've always preferred that kind of blogging,

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Ace - if that is what you love, go back to it.

Personally, I have found that people who share an interest with me on a subject as big as "conservative politics" probably share other interests with me. Its why I like what Insty posts - I think the non-political stuff is the most fascinating.

Most of us enjoy your fasting / health posts for this reason.

So I say go back to that type of posting. Now whether those posts actually generate page hits and thus $$, I cannot say.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 03:20 PM (gmeXX)

21 The young coming up may be terrible and intellectually incurious, but, at least we'll be plank holders on the USS Death Panel.

So, you know, we've got that going for us.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 25, 2016 03:20 PM (/x6xU)

22 I vaguely remember liking his site, but it's been a long time in internet years. RIP.

>Personally, though I've always preferred that kind of blogging, I've largely abandoned it, mostly to focus on politics, which I find increasingly hateful. - Ace

You should get back to it. I find the endless political grind depressing as all hell lately. Scandal after scandal, and nothing happens. I can't imagine trying to write about it every day.

Posted by: Lea at October 25, 2016 03:20 PM (lIU4e)

23 Pshaw how can there be any conservative politics when the supposed conservative side sits on the bench?

Posted by: Yo! at October 25, 2016 03:21 PM (GwIKd)

24 Yes, I read him post-9/11, when I was discovering the wonderful world of blogs (so many good ones then are now gone - how many of the blog links in the AOS sidebar no longer work?).

Sorry to hear of his death.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 03:21 PM (u0lmX)

25 Loved DenBeste's long pieces; always chewy, always had a way of making theory accessible. I especially appreciated his insights on telecom and energy. Smart guy, excellent writer. I hated that his illness took him away from think pieces but he did what made him happy and I respect that.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at October 25, 2016 03:22 PM (RD7QR)

26 Yep on all things here Ace. I read his long stuff from the beginning and had exactly the same reaction: I couldn't have predicted this. That's what made him great, and, not to suck up, what you have as well.

I really want to get the hell away from this election.

Posted by: chris not rock at October 25, 2016 03:22 PM (WO0/g)

27 He had a Renaissance Man's mind;

I get that alot too.

All the time.

Constantly.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 25, 2016 03:19 PM (XAbde)



Um, fapping over pictures of pudgy nude chicks doesn't make you a Renaissance Man.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 25, 2016 03:22 PM (8ZskC)

28 Ace,

I just read somewhere that the servers that held his old site are no longer around.....and that sucks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2016 03:22 PM (Zu3d9)

29 Congratulations to Mr Den Beste on living a life that touched people.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at October 25, 2016 03:23 PM (nFwvY)

30 "I remember thinking 'No one has ever said this before' when he discussed the 'scaling problems' inherent in alternative energy."

Perhaps not in the blogger dextrosphere, but energy analyst and author Robert Bryce has been all over those problems.

As was the late David MacKay FRS. Who penned an impeccably rigorous analysis of what it would take to run the UK completely on "green, renewable" power, and who concluded the country would have to be essentially completely carpeted with windmills, tidal turbines and solar panels, at astronomical cost, and *still* would not achieve energy independence.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 25, 2016 03:23 PM (noWW6)

31 If you don't know his writings, start here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160119040224/http://denbeste.nu/bestof.shtml

I re-read the one about the EU (click "guiding philosophy") this morning:

>>What is the real project behind all these institutional and political arrangements?

>>To sneak through the creation of a central authority of the European Socialist elite who will have the power to rule due to their nobility, their wisdom, and their virtue. Because of that, they will not need any other mandate; their nobility of purpose justifies everything they will do. Once this system has been established through the fiction of a popular plebiscite, the elite will then begin to implement all the reforms they know are needed, for the good of all, over the objections of those who are less enlightened and sophisticated.

Why does this, written in 2003, seem soooo familiar?

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:23 PM (gTQoY)

32 >>>Can't say ever read him.

Years ago he'd mostly converted over to a -- oddly enough -- Japanese animated manga enthusiast blogger, with only intermittent stuff on other topics.

I don't know anything about manga and don't care to, so I stopped reading him myself. THough, I'm fairly certain, if you drew up a list of the top Japanese manga bloggers, he would be at the top of the list for insight and novelty.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:23 PM (8rNrN)

33 I just read somewhere that the servers that held his old site are no longer around.....and that sucks.

Yup. That sometimes happens to servers. And billing records too, for that matter.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016: Brain Damaged? Yes, But Not Too Brain Damaged To Still Be A Scheming, Lying Witch at October 25, 2016 03:24 PM (8ZskC)

34 the young ones coming up are vile.
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Matty Yglesias at October 25, 2016 03:24 PM (ysprU)

35 CBD, they are archived. See #17.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:24 PM (gTQoY)

36 Yeah, you're going to miss the insightful comments, brilliant ideas and sunny optimism when I'm gone too.

But do you think I could get a kind word while I'm still breathing? Hell no.

This is a cruel, cruel world.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 03:25 PM (Zs4uk)

37 And man, I really wish there were some right/libertarians that aligned with my interests.

Like records: the vinyl people will outright all Loretta Lynn an evil person because she supports Trump. Same with Hank III.

So yeah, write about whatever you like, I bet lots of us will share something.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 25, 2016 03:26 PM (/x6xU)

38 A true gem of a mind. I wish I'd met him, and I surely wish his body had some of the youth and vitality of his brain.


Well said.

He was interested in things. Most people aren't. I try to be but I fail at that more often than not.


Screw 2016 Year of The Reaping. Just. Screw it.



Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:26 PM (mf5HN)

39 Don't really have anything to add on this topic, having never read his blog.

OT: For some reason, after reading the sidebar, I've got a new respect for Bob Dylan.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 25, 2016 03:26 PM (KUaJL)

40 >>>But do you think I could get a kind word while I'm still breathing? Hell no.


I felt bad about having never said a proper good-bye to buzzion.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

41 I like pie.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (8ZskC)

42 Den Beste was pretty unique in the web. Almost always something of interest, and always well constructed.

Some years back, after abandoning USS Clueless to talk about anime, he offered readers a ZIP file of all of the USS Clueless posts. I downloaded it, and still have it somewhere.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (AroJD)

43 Once the election is over, it would be nice to transition to something else; its mentally fatiguing.
#twoweeks.

Posted by: IC at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (a0IVu)

44 Too damn young to pass on. RIP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (voOPb)

45 That's not ace's hash. WHAT DID YOU DO WITH ACE???

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 25, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)

46 Besides the link that Mama AJ put up, the blog is also mirrored here with DenBeste's permission:

https://erbosoft.com/ussclueless/

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:28 PM (uHcnA)

47 Ace, here's the Prisoner's Dilemma post:

http://tinyurl.com/zkc26an

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:28 PM (gTQoY)

48
buzzion is dead?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:28 PM (qP3+D)

49 I heard buzzion liked refried beans......

P.S. I REALLY miss your podcasts Ace!!!

Posted by: lindafell- Irredeemable, deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamaphobic, knuckle-d at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (bxu2Y)

50 Ace,

I just read somewhere that the servers that held his old site are no longer around.....and that sucks.




They were wiped. With a cloth. And used in Hillary's bathroom.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (WDy4l)

51 I felt bad about having never said a proper good-bye to buzzion.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)


One day you're underappreciated and the next you're gone...

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (Zs4uk)

52 This post got me thinking about sites I used to read daily, but don't anymore. Whatever happened to Jeff G and proteinwisdom?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (kTF2Z)

53 Bluebell, when I actually tried to read the posts there, they were incomplete.

Maybe some were complete, but not the ones I tried.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:30 PM (gTQoY)

54 If Steven's brother or executor should read this, or if one of you can direct him / them to it, USS Clueless had too much brilliant insight to let it simply slip down the memory hole. Is there an archive? Can the server be resurrected? I know a publisher (not Baen) that would like to get the rights to collect, edit, and publish USS Clueless. Have them contact me - I'd be the editor - Tom Kratman, nrvlaw at aol dot com.

Posted by: Tom Kratman at October 25, 2016 03:30 PM (0NULD)

55 Ah, ok Mama AJ. I hadn't looked through the whole thing. Thanks.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:31 PM (uHcnA)

56
I don't miss the podcasts about politics. But I'd like a return of podcasts about tv and movies. With naked testicle spider man guy, preferably.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:31 PM (qP3+D)

57 48
buzzion is dead?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:28 PM (qP3+D)


He was only 29. Passed away due to complications with Herpes Simplex 12.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 03:32 PM (Zs4uk)

58 and the young ones coming up are vile.

I hear they all do butt stuff too.

Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2016 03:32 PM (pMH6r)

59 Mama AJ,

Thank you!

Soothsayer,

No, but for some reason commenters kept saying he was dead and mourning his passing, even in threads where he was actively posting. (Especially in those threads, I should say.)

Or was that blaster?

Well one of the b's.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:32 PM (8rNrN)

60 RIP. I feel old today, damnit.

But I retain to this day the habit of looking for news on the blogs first, and still it serves me well. Den Beste had a lot to do with that. Yours is still one of the blogs I look at first, Ace.

And Twitter still sucks chrome of trailer hitches. I will never understand why it's a thing. Except for the idiots; Twitter makes sense when one considers the idiots.

Did I say RIP Den Beste?

Posted by: Monty James at October 25, 2016 03:32 PM (gKOMX)

61 All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.

Posted by Ace at 03:14 PM Comments


Ain't that the truth. My short attention span meant I gave little time to his writing, but I always knew the stuff I skimmed and/or skipped over had meat in it.


I knew him, not at all, really. Still, it saddens me that he is gone, and he will definitely be missed.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 25, 2016 03:33 PM (TOk1P)

62 Tom Kratman, did you go to the link at the top of ace's post? That post is by someone who knows Steven's brother. Leave a comment there like you did here and I'll bet you get someone to contact you.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:33 PM (uHcnA)

63 Ha, ha! The (undoubtedly) pro-alternative energy link in "Also, yes I've seen this" has been taken over by a bail-bondsman firm.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 25, 2016 03:33 PM (FP3TD)

64 Only Megan, Wooga.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 25, 2016 03:33 PM (/x6xU)

65 Buzzion posts from beyond. Fenelon killed grammie. She got better.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (kTF2Z)

66
and the young ones coming up are vile.


It just occurred to me that when we're old, we'll have doctors named "Lexie" and "Dillon" and "Parker" and "Madison."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (qP3+D)

67 I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)

68 >> I felt bad about having never said a proper good-bye to buzzion.


Ouija Board or Time Machine, Ace.

It's never too late.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (6Erfn)

69 49 I heard buzzion liked refried beans......

P.S. I REALLY miss your podcasts Ace!!!
Posted by: lindafell- Irredeemable, deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamaphobic, knuckle-d at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (bxu2Y)



I've got one less thing to buy next time I plan to make burritos.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (z/Ubi)

70 No, but for some reason commenters kept saying he was dead and mourning his passing, even in threads where he was actively posting. (Especially in those threads, I should say.)

Or was that blaster?

Well one of the b's.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:32 PM (8rNrN)
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Nope, you were right the first time, it was buzzion.

I believe FenelonSpoke was typing a comment to buzzion and instead of writing Dear buzzion she wrote Dead buzzion.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (uHcnA)

71
...covered in stupid tattoos, texting on social media while they're examining you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (qP3+D)

72 >>>>> I don't know anything about manga and don't care to, so I stopped reading him myself. THough, I'm fairly certain, if you drew up a list of the top Japanese manga bloggers, he would be at the top of the list for insight and novelty.

TBH my first thoughts when he said "I'm just doing anime now" were a) seriously? and b) isn't that a pretty well-served area already?

But maybe anime benefited from the SDB touch.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (TEt6C)

73 43 Once the election is over, it would be nice to transition to something else; its mentally fatiguing.
#twoweeks.
Posted by: IC at October 25, 2016 03:27 PM (a0IVu)

I just don't see how there will be any let up if either one wins.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (CFc5L)

74 I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)
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I figured it was because you like having a lot of nurses around, 8 of them to be precise.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (uHcnA)

75 71 And than tell you you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (fA75F)

76 He was one of the first blogs I found; haven't been to it in forever, but once in a while the man and I would say, "Hey, do you remember...?" and try to remind ourselves to check it out again.

There are too few good bloggers as it is, which makes me think we need to kidnap Ace and threaten him with Slim Jim whips and withholding Val-U-Rite in order to ensure the HQ never goes away.

"Start typing!"

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (Gim9y)

77 It just occurred to me that when we're old, we'll have doctors named "Lexie" and "Dillon" and "Parker" and "Madison."

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There will be no doctors when we are old. You will just have to kill yourself for the benefit of society and to exercise your right to death.

Of course, I'll have a doctor because I plan on being part of the wealthy and / or elite. I suggest you join me.

Of course, our doctors will be robots too.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (gmeXX)

78 67 I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)

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You're now a pod person, aren't you?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (kTF2Z)

79 Did you bring enough New Hash for everybody?

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (6Erfn)

80 I felt bad about having never said a proper good-bye to buzzion.
Posted by: ace


Well the sorry bastard won't go away, so there's no point.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, deplorably down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (9krrF)

81 Nope, you were right the first time, it was buzzion.

I believe FenelonSpoke was typing a comment to buzzion and instead of writing Dear buzzion she wrote Dead buzzion.




She did it with grammie winger too!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (WDy4l)

82 Eh, given that I'm going to be seguing more and more out of
"conservative" politics, maybe I'll try to get back to more Den Beste
style blogging.



Some of the weekend threads do manage to get out of the all politic all the time mode. But only if the thread monitor follows closely and delete all political comments with a reminder. some of the more rude Morons simpley do not understand that not all threads are "open threads".


Monty used to be good about that when he started the book thread. He would bounce a political comment in half a heartbeat. I miss Monty.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

83 been a long time since, but I remember reading his site pretty regularly. Sorry to see him go. At least we still have Thomas Sowell.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 25, 2016 03:37 PM (TWEt2)

84 She did it with grammie winger too!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (WDy4l)

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That's right. I think we all need to tread veeeeeery carefully around her.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:37 PM (uHcnA)

85 >>>
I believe FenelonSpoke was typing a comment to buzzion and instead of writing Dear buzzion she wrote Dead buzzion.

you just never know when it's coming. One day you're young and alive, the next day Fenelon mistypes an "r" and that's that.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:37 PM (8rNrN)

86 we'll have doctors named "Lexie" and "Dillon" and "Parker" and "Madison."

Posted by: Soothsayer
-------------------

Skye

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 03:38 PM (ysprU)

87 >>I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)


Thanks for the head's up.

We'll make sure your info gets into the right file.

Posted by: Ted at NSA at October 25, 2016 03:38 PM (6Erfn)

88 Nope, you were right the first time, it was buzzion.

I believe FenelonSpoke was typing a comment to buzzion and instead of writing Dear buzzion she wrote Dead buzzion.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:35 PM (uHcnA)



No, that was grammie winger. FenelonSpoke killed me because I was correcting her on missing a comma placement concerning Cosby and Sowell in someone elses comment.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:38 PM (z/Ubi)

89 Whatever happened to Jeff G and proteinwisdom?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (kTF2Z)



Last I looked, he was almost never there, but Darleen Click was posting fairly regularly. No offense to her, but she's not Jeff.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 25, 2016 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

90 speaking of the next generation, are there any young conservative/libertarian bloggers? I know Ace is only 29, but are there others worth following?

Posted by: IC at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (a0IVu)

91 Pro Tip: Don't cross Fenelon.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (6Erfn)

92 I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)
..............

because you ate a couple of RN's?

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (HgMAr)

93 you just never know when it's coming. One day you're young and alive, the next day Fenelon mistypes an "r" and that's that.
Posted by: ace
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The Fickle Finger of Fenelon

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (ysprU)

94
At least we still have Thomas Sowell.

Way to put the jonah (jinx) on him.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (qP3+D)

95 May eternal light shine on him and may he rest in peace. Amen. :'(

Posted by: Ed Snyder at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (hJ/AL)

96 Ah, sorry buzzion! Hopefully my "dead buzzion" won't stick.

I can't keep all the people straight that Fenelon killed on this blog. It's getting to be a full-time job.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (uHcnA)

97
Skye

Her, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:39 PM (qP3+D)

98 I don't know anything about manga and don't care to, so I stopped reading him myself. THough, I'm fairly certain, if you drew up a list of the top Japanese manga bloggers, he would be at the top of the list for insight and novelty.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:23 PM (8rNrN)



Yup.


As far as telling you what to do with your blog, well, let me tell you mister that it's your blog so you do with it what you want to do. So there!

Maybe it's just me, but I find it fascinating to read/listen to people discuss stuff about which they are passionate even if I know nothing about that topic. Unless it's something awful like furries or spiders or cannibalism or the Yankees, you know, truly horrific things.

As everyone is tired of me shrieking, life is not politics and politics are not life and reducing one's life to being purely political is dehumanizing in the actual meaning of the term.

The Horde has become the Horde because we happy band of misfits have found a place where we can discuss politics but also food and the abomination of carrot chili and movies and books and art and shooting and whatever else flits across our collective lack of attention span. More hey life is actually big and exciting and all this sound and fury about politics is not the end all would be well met I believe.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

99 >> I miss Monty.

I figure he'll be posting DOOOOM daily if Hillary wins.

Well, we'll have DOOOOM daily, with or without him.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (gTQoY)

100 >>>No, that was grammie winger. FenelonSpoke killed me because I was correcting her on missing a comma placement concerning Cosby and Sowell in someone elses comment.

somedays the wind blows and I could swear I hear buzzion's voice lilting in it, poignantly and annoyingly

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (8rNrN)

101
And "Doctor Zoe" too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (qP3+D)

102 Fenelon is a high dollar hitman cleverly disguised as a pastor. Stone killer, that one.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (kTF2Z)

103 DenBeste's essays right after 9/11 were some of the best, well-written things I read during that time when I (and everybody) was trying to get my mind around what had just happened to us as a country.

Posted by: TechnoOakland at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (McGcX)

104 I seem to have a new hash. not sure why.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:34 PM (8rNrN)
..............

because you ate a couple of RN's?
Posted by: wth



Kinky.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (WDy4l)

105 She did it with grammie winger too!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (WDy4l)


I'm sorry to say we had to put grammie winger down some time ago.

Due to increased premiums, her age, pre-existing conditions and the decisions of the Death Panel, there was simply no other choice.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (Zs4uk)

106 All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.



Nah, twitter is just stuplifying them.

Posted by: DaveA at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (8J/Te)

107 You're now a pod person, aren't you?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:36 PM (kTF2Z)

I don't believe Ace is a pod person. Yet. Irrational as it sounds, it is the only plausible explanation for what's happened to the brains of over half the country (and the rest of the world).

Posted by: washrivergal at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (CFc5L)

108 WILD AND LOOSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=2v8EWlZxj-M

Posted by: THE TIME at October 25, 2016 03:41 PM (6Erfn)

109 >>>
Maybe it's just me, but I find it fascinating to read/listen to people discuss stuff about which they are passionate even if I know nothing about that topic. Unless it's something awful like furries or spiders or cannibalism or the Yankees, you know, truly horrific things.

yeah that's me too. I guess I just assumed that if it's your job, you're not supposed to enjoy it.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:41 PM (8rNrN)

110 Don't mess with the Mistress of the One Finger Death Touch.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, deplorably down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 25, 2016 03:41 PM (9krrF)

111 "...or the Yankees, you know, truly horrific things.
"

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

Et tu, shorty?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2016 03:43 PM (Zu3d9)

112 That's right AtC!
AoSHQ is also about refried beans, horses, hay bales, tequila, and t-shirts....but mainly killing off commenters.

Posted by: lindafell- Irredeemable, deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamaphobic, knuckle-d at October 25, 2016 03:43 PM (bxu2Y)

113 The Horde has become the Horde because we happy band of misfits have found a place where we can discuss politics but also food and the abomination of carrot chili and movies and books and art and shooting and whatever else flits across our collective lack of attention span. More hey life is actually big and exciting and all this sound and fury about politics is not the end all would be well met I believe.



Harrumph! Harrumph!

Hey! I didn't get a harrumph! outta that guy ---->

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:43 PM (WDy4l)

114 The biggest drawback of wind/solar is that they generate power when conditions permit them to do so, not when demand requires them to do so. And there's no practical way to store electric energy in adequate quantities to deal with this without unacceptable losses or unreasonable capital and/or operating expense. (This is a major flaw of most of the fad alternate electrical energy sources we hear so much about.)

den Beste "Energy scaling problems"

http://tinyurl.com/hklr8s2

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 25, 2016 03:43 PM (TWEt2)

115 yeah that's me too. I guess I just assumed that if it's your job, you're not supposed to enjoy it.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:41 PM (8rNrN)
------------------

When you're self-employed, ace, you're supposed to be working at something that makes you happy.

Write about what you like. We'll come read it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (uHcnA)

116 >>>Posted by: Dr. Stephen J. Krune III at October 25, 2016

what a sad insect you are.

banned, obviously.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (8rNrN)

117 AoSHQ is also about refried beans, horses, hay bales, tequila, and t-shirts.



And buckets and MENDOZAAAA!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (WDy4l)

118
So you say you like learning nood things, do you? Let's test this out. Here's a video on Nixie Tubes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxL4ElboiuA

(What's a nixie tube? LEARN!)

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (qP3+D)

119

sigh


Posted by: Furry, Cannibalistic, Yankee Spider at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (gTQoY)

120
The Horde has become the Horde because we happy band of misfits have
found a place where we can discuss politics but also food and the
abomination of carrot chili and movies and books and art and shooting
and whatever else flits across our collective lack of attention span.
More hey life is actually big and exciting and all this sound and fury
about politics is not the end all would be well met I believe.>>>

Somehow "Boobs" was left out of this comment.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (tf9Ne)

121 I had a discussion about energy policy around the time of the Iraq war and let a friend of mine read that post on alternative energy. To watch a cool-headed, pragmatic crushing of liberal hopes and dreams is a great joy.

I agree with your point about the vileness of the upcoming thirty-year-old bloggers.

Posted by: davedaveadavarf at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (0+srV)

122 116
>>>Posted by: Dr. Stephen J. Krune III at October 25, 2016



what a sad insect you are.



banned, obviously.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:44 PM (8rNrN)
Thanks for the banning. I clicked on his link, unfortunately. What an ass.

Posted by: IC at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (a0IVu)

123 All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.

Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM

This is truth, my friend.
But this is the waning of our society, and such is as it ever was. When the people have had a belly full of what they've been clamoring for, good men will rise again.

We won't see it. Neither will our grandchildren.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (kKHcp)

124 Write about what you like. We'll come read it.

----------

That being said, I'm probably not coming to read about Japanese manga stuff or whatever that is. Still if that's what you want to write about, have at it.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 03:46 PM (gmeXX)

125 Ate her Number En,
strange.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2016 03:46 PM (sWbjH)

126 On the AoS sidebar is this question:

"If "thrippy" were a real word, what do you think it would mean?
My Balderdash game experience tells me to claim it's either 1, a nautical term for a line stabilizing the jib, or 2, the main ring that the straps of a horse's bridle connect to. You really can't go wrong with claiming it's some bullshit having to do with boats or bridles. But it also could very well be an adjective, and I'm stumped on that. All I can come up with is something like "thrice" (like, "The lady hath thrippy given me the loving her mouth") or the obvious, dumb similarity to "thrifty.""


Answer:

Since "thrip" is a normal word (a thrip is an ugly looking insect that often is a blight on crops), then "thrippy" would simply be "of or related to thrips."

Since thrips are usually considered terrible agricultural pests, I'd say that "thrippy" could be either "plague-like" or "pestilential," or perhaps simply "resembling a thrip."

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 03:46 PM (jBuUi)

127 >>Write about what you like. We'll comment come read it.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:47 PM (6Erfn)

128 "I don't know anything about manga and don't care to, so I stopped reading him myself."

This.
I read his stuff regularly, until he bored himself.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 25, 2016 03:47 PM (QM5S2)

129 >>>
Since "thrip" is a normal word (a thrip is an ugly looking insect that often is a blight on crops), then "thrippy" would simply be "of or related to thrips."

is it really or are you pulling my leg?

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:47 PM (8rNrN)

130 (shhhhhh garrett, I was trying to be polite.)

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:47 PM (uHcnA)

131 Good thing ace is only 28.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2016 03:48 PM (fA75F)

132 huh, zombie wasn't lying. A thrip is a pestilent insect that causes damage to productive things -- you know, like trollz.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:48 PM (8rNrN)

133 *blows kisses at CBD*

Oh. Look. Just about four hours until my baseball is in the World Series. Just mentioning that for no reason whatsoever.


yeah that's me too. I guess I just assumed that if it's your job, you're not supposed to enjoy it.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:41 PM (8rNrN)


If you find something you love, you'll never work a day in your life. Because they aren't hiring in that field.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (mf5HN)

134 Ace, write about what you want, if we don't like it we'll go off topic and fight about something else.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (TWEt2)

135 "All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile."

That's the saddest and yet the truest thing I've read in a while.

Saw that about Steven yesterday. Was really hoping he'd hang in there awhile longer. He's been coping on his own in Oregon for some time now. Some of the folks on Twitter last night were like "Oh, yeah, the pervy anime guy". Well, he liked anime and he liked women. What's your point?

The guy he most reminded me of was Micheal Crichton. Reading any of those two guys when they got going on a subject was like attending a college lecture taught by someone who not only knew the material but knew how to get it to you and make you learn something.

This year has been shit for losing good people.




Posted by: Azathoth at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (5WUYo)

136 And there's no practical way to store electric energy in adequate quantities ..

--------

You seem to have forgotten Beacon Energy. My personal favorite among the Stimulus-funded 'projects'.

Remarkable because the the facility quite literally exploded.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (ysprU)

137 Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 03:46 PM (jBuUi)

Nope....

A "thrippy" is a sexual tryst between three people that does not include vaginal intercourse.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (Zu3d9)

138 ProteinWisdom got hacked. (I think he said by Trumpers.)

He'll go on long Twitter attacks against really stupid people. It's not a great format for him, IMO, and it's like watching a guy try to teach a pig how to sing.

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 03:49 PM (7zeA4)

139 >>Since thrips are usually considered terrible agricultural pests, I'd say that "thrippy" could be either "plague-like" or "pestilential," or perhaps simply "resembling a thrip."


I can use it in a sentence:

While Megan's enthusiasm for Butt Stuff was appealing, Ace couldn't help but be put off by the thrippiness of her lip sore.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (6Erfn)

140 All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.
Posted by Ace at 03:14 PM

Love you too babe

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (Z5wJ+)

141 Thrips are tiny bugs that are like no-see-ums and they hurt when they bite you... and they like to bite but you can't see what's biting you. They are not fun at all.

Posted by: lindafell- Irredeemable, deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamaphobic, knuckle-d at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (bxu2Y)

142 129 >>>
Since "thrip" is a normal word (a thrip is an ugly looking insect that often is a blight on crops), then "thrippy" would simply be "of or related to thrips."

is it really or are you pulling my leg?
Posted by: ace


No, for real:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrips

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (jBuUi)

143 >>>Thrips (order Thysanoptera) are minute, slender insects with fringed wings (thus the scientific name, from the Greek thysanos ("fringe") + pteron ("wing")). Other common names for thrips include thunderflies, thunderbugs, storm flies, thunderblights, storm bugs, corn flies, corn lice and physopods.

pretty sure four of those were monster names in the Monster Manual III.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (8rNrN)

144 Since "thrip" is a normal word (a thrip is an ugly looking insect that often is a blight on crops), then "thrippy" would simply be "of or related to thrips."

is it really or are you pulling my leg?



It's real.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (WDy4l)

145 >>Ace, write about what you want, if we don't like it we'll go off topic and fight about something else.

Fer shurr.

Posted by: Furry, Cannibalistic, Yankee Spider with a LONGBOW at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (gTQoY)

146 I thought Zombie was just giving me a good Balderdash bluff answer.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (8rNrN)

147 Somehow "Boobs" was left out of this comment.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (tf9Ne)



This is the Horde (and also me). The boobs are assumed.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

148 TCM - Guns Don't Argue 1958
Reenactments show FBI agents catchjng public enemies John Dillinger, Ma Parker, Pretty Boy Floyd, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Oh wait they let that last one off, sorry

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (sWbjH)

149 143 >>>Thrips (order Thysanoptera) are minute, slender insects with fringed wings (thus the scientific name, from the Greek thysanos ("fringe") + pteron ("wing")). Other common names for thrips include thunderflies, thunderbugs, storm flies, thunderblights, storm bugs, corn flies, corn lice and physopods.

pretty sure four of those were monster names in the Monster Manual III.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (8rNrN)

Thunderblight is a great name for a metal band.

Posted by: josephistan at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (7HtZB)

150 So I guess we have a new entry in the AoS Style Guide. When a thread becomes troll-infested, we say it has become thrippy.

I learn a lot here.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (uHcnA)

151 A "thrippy" is a sexual tryst between three people that does not include vaginal intercourse.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
----------

TMI... waaay TMI.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (ysprU)

152 12
Good on ya, Ace. I will be pulling for you since once this election
cycle is over, so is politics for me. There are other perspectives on
life than just politics and ideology. I will be trying those
perspectives out for myself.



Godspeed to Den.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 25, 2016 03:17 PM (4ng05)
So my problem is this.I used to be into politics a lot - converted my then BF from a self-loathing and perpetually guilty feeling reluctant lib into a classical liberal (what the right used to be). Starting with Obama 8 years ago, it has been so hard to maintain interest. The right has turned belly up to the left, and the left is even more insufferable. It's been 'nice' in a way to not be thinking about politics so much; not reading about it as often as I did is nice, even as I feel a little guilty, because it does affect me.This cycle has been particularly exhausting, because it has been so nasty, but also because the choice is between a soul-less, narcissistic bitch and Donald Trump, who I don't like but realise I have to vote for in order to ensure the SCOTUS isn't packed with Sotomayor clones. *shudder* He's also not inside the Beltway, and I think that's on the whole good. And so I keep thinking for better or for worse, in two weeks it will end.But will it? Some of the Wikileaks emails and other things leaked make me worried if Clinton wins if the worry will just begin. What IF she tries to use an executive order to seize guns, as a Senator intimated on tape? It's clear pay for play has already gone on for a while at CGI, so payback to those parties will begin in earnest, what will that look like? And the GOP, headed by feckless McConnell and others, wouldn't even defend America's ICANN ownership and uphold basic separation of powers and the right of Congress to ratify treaties... what else will they toss aside?So since this weekend I've been worrying about whether my looking forward to two weeks plus one is misplaced. It sounds like a fair share of us are disgusted and I'm wondering what form all that will take.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (Gim9y)

153 Can one of you guys check me for Corn Lice?

Posted by: Hope Solo at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (6Erfn)

154 so a thrippence would be British insect money..?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 25, 2016 03:52 PM (TWEt2)

155 Distributed Horde knowledge is both awesome and terrifying.


Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 03:52 PM (mf5HN)

156 It's a floor wax!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:52 PM (kTF2Z)

157
Didn't we spend, like, a month here discussing the penises of fruit flys?

That was constructive.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:52 PM (qP3+D)

158 TCM - Guns Don't Argue 1958
---------------

Unlike bows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 03:53 PM (ysprU)

159 While the open source knowledge is impressive, the open source nonsense is unparalleled.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:53 PM (6Erfn)

160 143 >>>Thrips (order Thysanoptera) are minute, slender insects with fringed wings (thus the scientific name, from the Greek thysanos ("fringe") + pteron ("wing")). Other common names for thrips include thunderflies, thunderbugs, storm flies, thunderblights, storm bugs, corn flies, corn lice and physopods.

pretty sure four of those were monster names in the Monster Manual III.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (8rNrN)



You would think a Thrip would also be in there.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (z/Ubi)

161
pretty sure four of those were monster names in the Monster Manual III.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:50 PM (8rNrN)

Nope Fiend Folio

Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (cBhCZ)

162
... the open source nonsense is unparalleled.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (qP3+D)

163 Thrips are minute, slender insects with fringed wings. Other common names for thrips include thunderflies, thunderbugs, storm flies, thunderblights,
storm bugs, corn flies, corn lice and physopods.

Thrips species feed on a large variety of plants and animals by puncturing them and sucking up the contents.

Much like an ex wife.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (WDy4l)

164 I feel like a loser because I never knew about USS Clueless.
Heck I was never a member of LGF that I can recall, and that seems to be a cred thing here.
I WAS a regular at Llama Butchers back in the day, though...

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (eKxUP)

165 RE: Prisoner's Dilemma

Beste did indeed write about this with clarity. Blessings upon him.

Trump knows tit-for-tat theory, at a gut level. Which is why he is keeping his options open about the rigged election. He can sue and drag this thing out. "Nuke me, and I'll nuke you back, and de-legitmize your presidency."

But that is already what Cliton/DNC, NeverTrumpers, and MSM/Democrat propagandists are doing to Trump: Seeking to de-legitimize him. "Unfit to be President." "Clown." "Impulsive/out-of-control."

They do it, and unlike all past RNC candidates, he is not playing the saint. He's throwing it right back at them. Good for him.

Posted by: Just call me at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (46ftr)

166
Open source knowledge?

Such as....

what a "steely dan" really is?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (qP3+D)

167 Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (Gim9y)
----------------

I hear you. My best thought so far is that eventually the rot that inside her will consume her from the inside out.

It's not really a plan though.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (uHcnA)

168 132 huh, zombie wasn't lying. A thrip is a pestilent insect that causes damage to productive things -- you know, like trollz.
Posted by: ac


But HEY, look at this -- something I did not know:

"Like the words sheep, deer, and moose, the word thrips is used for both the singular and plural forms, so there may be many thrips or a single thrips."

So, maybe in actual reality, there is no word "thrip" in the singular-seeming, technically. It always has an "s" at the end, in science papers 'n' stuff.

But in common parlance, I have heard it as "thrip" in the singular many many times.

Shrugs

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (jBuUi)

169
I think you'll find that once you become a registered Democrat, political blogging will be all sweetness and light.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (OZmbA)

170
and what Rikki Don't Lose That Number is really about?

Yeah, we learn a lot here.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (qP3+D)

171 >>what a "steely dan" really is?


What is something that needs disinfecting?

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (6Erfn)

172 >>>we'll have doctors named "Lexie"

You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Dr. Lexus at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (pMH6r)

173 Whatever happened to Jeff G and proteinwisdom?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 03:29 PM (kTF2Z)


Following a "hack attack" on his host, apparently the logs of his blog were *deleted*, including backups. Jeff basically stopped blogging (though he was previously intermittent) when *all* of the blog's content was lost.

Always keep a personal off-site backup.

That said there's probably a partial resource on archive.org.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (ZoRF7)

174 >>>136 And there's no practical way to store electric energy in adequate quantities ..


i read a way to do it, but caution, this raises den Beste's objections on grounds of non-scalability.

If you just had a solar array in your back yard, you could use the power to drive a water-screw to lift up water from a groundwater source to a tower, like a rain collection tower on a farm. At night, you let the water flow down, turning turbines and generating electricity from the gravitational potential of the water.

Obviously you lose ridiculous amounts of efficiency there.

Anyway, all that's nice for a backyard sun-farmer with unlimited acreage, but imagine cities trying to raise milions of tons of water into huge towers (located where?) to provide "stored solar power" overnight.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (8rNrN)

175 164 I feel like a loser because I never knew about USS Clueless.
Heck I was never a member of LGF that I can recall, and that seems to be a cred thing here.
I WAS a regular at Llama Butchers back in the day, though...
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 03:54 PM (eKxUP)



Never went to LGF. I was at a site where the asshole runner went Charles Johnson before Charles Johnson did. I think alexthechick and wiserbud posted there as well. Also the troll Bob Munck

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:57 PM (z/Ubi)

176 "Heck I was never a member of LGF that I can recall, and that seems to be a cred thing here."


I never could take LGF. Along with AoSHQ, I was always hanging around Protein Wisdom and Just One Minute.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 03:57 PM (Zs4uk)

177 If ace starts writing posts that make us think, I'm out of here.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 03:57 PM (DLIpz)

178 170
and what Rikki Don't Lose That Number is really about?

Yeah, we learn a lot here.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (qP3+D)

???

I remember what learning about "Everyone's Gone to The Movies" (which is pretty much what I thought it was) but what's the secret meaning behind "Rikki"?

Posted by: josephistan at October 25, 2016 03:58 PM (7HtZB)

179 Off topic, Ace re your tweet:

"Favorite son" I would guess is Patrick Kennedy of the State Department. One imagines a recurring joke in that crowd is that "Patrick is our favorite Kennedy son" joking off the fact that he is not one of those Kennedys. He appears to be a loyal Hillary insider.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 25, 2016 03:58 PM (hA1V+)

180 I don't play with tits with tats.

Posted by: Trump at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (1me8P)

181 If ace starts writing posts that make us think, I'm out of here.




If he makes us math, I'm sunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (WDy4l)

182 146 I thought Zombie was just giving me a good Balderdash bluff answer.
Posted by: ace


I've only ever played that game once, but of course I won, because everyone is afraid of my vocabulary SKILZZZZ, and they all just assume that if I say it, it must automatically be true.

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (jBuUi)

183 >>>You would think a Thrip would also be in there.


one of my favorite characters was a were-thrip thief named Thrippy the Thripstalker

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (8rNrN)

184 Mmm. Beacon Energy.

Doh!

Posted by: homer simpson at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (FP3TD)

185 We discuss many important and weighty topics here: books, food, sex, death and whether or not the Steely Dan guy is gay.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (u0lmX)

186 He really was one of the best, I remember reading his blog and wishing I could write like that and have that much clarity of thought. When he quit I was really disappointed, but now after 10 years of blogging I understand why. You just run out of passion and realize its just spitting into the wind.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 03:59 PM (39g3+)

187 looking for tit for tat, I found the etymology of tit for tat.

Anyone want to guess?

No, it's not about tits.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (8rNrN)

188 OT from the side bar;


I think"thrippy" is a real word.


An adjective in that one is like a "Thrip", which is a small flying insect.

Lemme go look up if there's any other info...

Hmmm.

Apparently, they use anal secretions to deter predators.

So-

You thrippy NeverTrump morons are always flinging poo around.


Language and natural history lesson done for the day.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (0cMkb)

189 but what's the secret meaning behind "Rikki"?




It'll blow your mind it's so fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (WDy4l)

190 "Anyway, all that's nice for a backyard sun-farmer with unlimited acreage, but imagine cities trying to raise milions of tons of water into huge towers (located where?) to provide "stored solar power" overnight."
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (8rNrN)


Sounds like the only possible solution is the jwest 500 identical nuke plan.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (Zs4uk)

191 That would be a fun thread one day -
What blogs did you hang out at 10 years ago?
What posters do you remember from your early days at AoSHQ?


Right Wing Sparkle rinGS a bell.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (eKxUP)

192 All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.



Posted by: Ace at 03:14 PM



This is truth, my friend.

But this is the waning of our society, and such is as it ever was.
When the people have had a belly full of what they've been clamoring
for, good men will rise again.



We won't see it. Neither will our grandchildren.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 25, 2016 03:45 PM (kKHcp)

The "good ones" have certainly left an amazing mess in their wake. Perhaps they were more normal than you imagine, and your affection for them is simply nostalgia.

Posted by: DFCtomm at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (1u48m)

193 No, it's not about tits.

-------

What about tat?

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (gmeXX)

194 Yesterday the thread got blocked at work when we started to go deep on the Steely Dan. Let's not let that happen again, OK?

Posted by: josephistan at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (7HtZB)

195 Or you could buy a generator, tell the power vomit was a solar array, and pump amps back into the grid for less than the price of gas, ( at night)!

Posted by: Señor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (cBhCZ)

196 187 looking for tit for tat, I found the etymology of tit for tat.

Anyone want to guess?

No, it's not about tits.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (8rNrN)



Its always about tits.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 04:01 PM (z/Ubi)

197 Or you could buy a generator, tell the power vomit was a solar array, and pump amps back into the grid for less than the price of gas; at night.

Posted by: Senor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:01 PM (cBhCZ)

198 The only time I went to LGF was a couple times looking for comments (very disappointing) and when the Ratherquiddick thing broke. It kind of annoyed me that LGF got so much credit during that, because the first place I saw it was PowerLine who had info on it days before LGF's GIF.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:01 PM (39g3+)

199 Welp.

I see I'm way too late with the thrip info.


Carry on.


*walks away grumbling*

Posted by: naturalfake at October 25, 2016 04:01 PM (0cMkb)

200 Yesterday the thread got blocked at work when we started to go deep on the Steely Dan. Let's not let that happen again, OK?
Posted by: josephistan at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (7HtZB)
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Poor josephistan. That happened last week too, didn't it?

Frankly, I'm surprised it doesn't happen every day.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 04:01 PM (uHcnA)

201 >>I never could take LGF. Along with AoSHQ, I was always hanging around Protein Wisdom and Just One Minute.

Posted by: jwest



LGF was a daily stop for me until the unhinging, then I found AOS and Protein Wisdom. Soon decided those protein wisdom folks were way too smart for me, so I went lowbrow.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (OZmbA)

202 looking for tit for tat, I found the etymology of tit for tat.

Anyone want to guess?

No, it's not about tits.



Then what's the use??

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (WDy4l)

203 Right Wing Sparkle rings a bell.

She hit the big time, writes for a Texas paper now. Probably be a columnist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (39g3+)

204 tit for tat comes from a fencing term "tip for tap," meaning going strike for strike with an opponent.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (8rNrN)

205 Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 03:56 PM (8rNrN)

I recall that salt is used in some fashion that increases the efficiency. That sliver of info and 2.00 could get you a cup of coffee.

Posted by: Trump at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (1me8P)

206 I think alexthechick and wiserbud posted there as well. Also the troll Bob Munck
Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:57 PM (z/Ubi)



I have no idea what site you're thinking about but it's nothing at which I ever posted.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (mf5HN)

207
This is the place where I learned a parakeet is a baby parrot.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (qP3+D)

208 Anyway, all that's nice for a backyard sun-farmer with unlimited acreage, but imagine cities trying to raise milions of tons of water into huge towers (located where?) to provide "stored solar power" overnight.
Posted by: ace
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There are Pumped Storage facilities now that use that methodology. Generally, a pool provides water to drive turbines during demand periods, but during non-demand periods, the turbines are driven in reverse by the excess capacity to pump water back back up into the pool.

One I have visited:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/go9qqsq

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:03 PM (ysprU)

209 And, The Jawa Report - are they still around?

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 04:03 PM (eKxUP)

210
we started to go deep on the Steely Dan.


ick

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (qP3+D)

211 Just One Minute and Junkyard Blog were great back then, I don't know if they are even around any more. I liked Protein Wisdom a while but he kinda went crackers for a while (I don't blame him, it just was tough to be around). Volokh Conspiracy was uneven but often great. There were some left wing blogs I would go to as well, guys who were honest and cared more about liberty than power, but I think they're all gone now, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (39g3+)

212 The DNC used to have a daily blog. I was a regular during the Bush/Kerry election. They shut it down shortly after that, in part due to heavy troll infestation. I like to think I played a significant part in that.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (DLIpz)

213 206 I think alexthechick and wiserbud posted there as well. Also the troll Bob Munck
Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 03:57 PM (z/Ubi)


I have no idea what site you're thinking about but it's nothing at which I ever posted.
Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (mf5HN)


It was called Right Thinking From the Left Coast. I could be mistaken of course.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (z/Ubi)

214 >>tip for tap


'A Leper walks into a Pub'- right?

I've heard this one.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (6Erfn)

215 The DNC used to have a daily blog. I was a regular during the Bush/Kerry election. They shut it down shortly after that, in part due to heavy troll infestation. I like to think I played a significant part in that.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:04 PM (DLIpz)
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grammie! You were a thripster!

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (uHcnA)

216 If I had a band, I'd call it Thunderbugs

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (WlGX+)

217
Anyone want to guess?


Ahh, "this for that"?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (qP3+D)

218 >>>There are Pumped Storage facilities now that use that methodology. Generally, a pool provides water to drive turbines during demand periods, but during non-demand periods, the turbines are driven in reverse by the excess capacity to pump water back back up into the pool.

yeah you can do it here and there, ad hoc, small-scale, but den beste's scalability objection remains: if the nation went 75% solar power, how many new artificial mountain lakes leading down to artificial sea level lakes would we have to build to store power through the night-time?

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (8rNrN)

219 204 tit for tat comes from a fencing term "tip for tap," meaning going strike for strike with an opponent.

That should be "groin strike" - you tap me I stab you in the tip.

Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (pMH6r)

220 What exactly is a tat, and how do I go about trading it for the other?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (kTF2Z)

221 "Soon decided those protein wisdom folks were way too smart for me, so I went lowbrow."
Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:02 PM (OZmbA)


I always thought Just One Minute had the smartest commenters. I've still got a comment from Clarice that just said "good point" framed on my wall.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (Zs4uk)

222 Den Beste was an original.

And as Ace said,his mind had the ability to understand topics and subjects with such clarity.


The world is a better place for his having been here.

And it's just little bit darker now, with his loss.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (J+eG2)

223 one of the blogs I started with long ago was World Magazine which was great. But it was infested with really obnoxious, bitter trolls who just could not face reality. I used to do Right Wing News a lot but I got sick of his constant format changes and blog rebuilds and honestly it was kind of a lowbrow place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (39g3+)

224 The very first blog I ever read was Andrew Sullivan's - back before he became completely unhinged over gay marriage.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (u0lmX)

225
Really?

I like my guess better -- it's a perverted variation of "this for that."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (qP3+D)

226 167
Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 03:51 PM (Gim9y)

----------------



I hear you. My best thought so far is that eventually the rot that inside her will consume her from the inside out.



It's not really a plan though.





Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 03:55 PM (uHcnA)

That's what the BF says; he contends that eventually the rot will be pretty undeniable, except to her most blind supporters and we just need to 'hunker down'... whatever form that takes.

And sorry about the formatting! It looked fahn, I swears! =|

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (Gim9y)

227 Tit for tat

Meaning

A blow or some other retaliation in return for an injury from another.

Origin

It's tempting to assume that this little phrase is another way of saying 'this for that' and, in a way, it is. 'Tit' and 'tat' are both the names of small blows which originated as 'tip' and 'tap'. These are recorded by Charles, Duke of Orleans in a book of poems that he wrote while captive in England after the battle of Agincourt and first published circa 1466:

"Strokis grete, not tippe nor tapp."

The widespread unconcern about spelling and pronunciation in the Middle Ages led to 'tip', 'tap', 'tit' and 'tat' all to be variant spellings. John Heywood appears to be the first to have used 'tit for tat', in the parable The Spider and the Flie, 1556:

"That is tit for tat in this altricacion [altercation]."

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (jBuUi)

228 One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy and become the world's first trillionaire. At least I hope they do because that would be awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (mf5HN)

229 I like the idea of sidewalks that generate electricity by using the weight of the pedestrians.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (1me8P)

230 It's Yid with a Lid still going? I used to go there but then kind of forgot.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (DLIpz)

231 "when we started to go deep on the Steely Dan."

If I'd done that, I don't think I'd admit it to anybody.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (97XyN)

232
Posted by: Rollory

Can you please eat shit and die, you hectoring cocksucker?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (qP3+D)

233 yeah you can do it here and there, ad hoc, small-scale, but den beste's scalability objection remains: if the nation went 75% solar power,



What the hell would the NE do for three months of winter when it's grey skies?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (WDy4l)

234 >>>209 And, The Jawa Report - are they still around?

Sporadically, but without Rusty... so quality is way down. Imagine if Ace left us with just the drunk cobs.

Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (pMH6r)

235 >>> I used to do Right Wing News a lot but I got sick of his constant format changes and blog rebuilds

ah, I see why you're sticking with this site.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (8rNrN)

236 Movies have ruined my brain. I used to know the origin of "tit for tat" but all I can think about is the Howard Hughes movie "The Outlaw" where Billy The Kid(?) is negotiating over his horse and Jayne Mansfield.

Which Hughes referred to as "tit for tat".

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 04:08 PM (7zeA4)

237 >>yeah you can do it here and there, ad hoc, small-scale, but den beste's scalability objection remains: if the nation went 75% solar power, how many new artificial mountain lakes leading down to artificial sea level lakes would we have to build to store power through the night-time?


That water has to come from somewhere.

Water tables would be drawn down well below current levels.

Save the Aquifers!

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2016 04:08 PM (6Erfn)

238 I'm still listed as a mod at Rantburg. Pop in for a look every few days, but don't post much.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 25, 2016 04:08 PM (qJhUV)

239
My Thermodynamics prof in engineering school told about research project he had been involved in in Arizona, using wind power to turn compressors to pump air into underground caverns to store energy, the compressed air then to be used to run pneumatic motors turning alternators to generate grid power. This was in 1970s.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:08 PM (OZmbA)

240 yeah you can do it here and there, ad hoc, small-scale, but den beste's scalability objection remains: if the nation went 75% solar power, how many new artificial mountain lakes leading down to artificial sea level lakes would we have to build to store power through the night-time?
Posted by: ace
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Well, I figure that we dam up selected rivers. We can start with the Potomac. Proof of concept.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:08 PM (ysprU)

241 Very thrippy hot-take, Rollory, at 225.

Perhaps you should go fuck yourself now.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 25, 2016 04:09 PM (OWWiT)

242 Back in the day, Allah Is In The House was hilarious. What has happened to him is sad.

And I preferred it when Iowahawk did blogging rather than tweeting.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:09 PM (u0lmX)

243 236 >>> I used to do Right Wing News a lot but I got sick of his constant format changes and blog rebuilds

ah, I see why you're sticking with this site.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (8rNrN)

First laugh out loud moment of the day. Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: washrivergal at October 25, 2016 04:09 PM (CFc5L)

244 Rollory - that was over the line. You are not God. You do not make that call.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (DLIpz)

245 That would be a fun thread one day -
What blogs did you hang out at 10 years ago?
What posters do you remember from your early days at AoSHQ?


We have always lived at the HQ.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (mf5HN)

246 Early on Steven De Beste had some interesting things to say. Good stuff.

Then he bailed out and started writing anime reviews.

Since roughly 95% of anime is crap, that made his writing fairly uninteresting 95% of the time.

But, as per usual when he was right about anime, he was very right.

Interesting guy who i would've like to have a conversation with.

Kind of like R A Lafferty in that regard. Interesting mind.

But, now they're both gone so that's off the table.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (0cMkb)

247 I see why you're sticking with this site.

I know I'm kind of an aberration online but if something works and people are familiar with it, dammit why keep changing it? Seriously, John would rebuild the entire blog layout like twice a year.

This set up works great, its clean and easy to use, and works well on all platforms. Why the hell change?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (39g3+)

248 rollory,

you are full of passionate, spastic stupidity. Hell is made up of assholes like you.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (8rNrN)

249 Posted by: Rollory

Can you please eat shit and die, you hectoring cocksucker?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:07 PM (qP3+D)


I was in the midst of composing a reply to Rollory, but you said so much better.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (Zs4uk)

250 Sounds like the only possible solution is the jwest 500 identical nuke plan.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:00 PM (Zs4uk)

Absolutely.

Except the part where you totally reject market economics and embrace the power of government.

A simpler way to achieve your goal is to lift the restrictions on nuclear power.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (Zu3d9)

251 224 The very first blog I ever read was Andrew Sullivan's - back before he became completely unhinged over gay marriage.
Posted by: Donna and V.


My cherry-popping First Blog experience was Allah's blog (long long before he was at Hot Air and even before he added the "Pundit" to his name). He was funny as hell back in 2002-ish.

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (jBuUi)

252 there once was a woman named Kat
who had triplets name Nat, Pat, and Tat
and tho fun in the breeding
twas hell in the feeding
when she found there was no tit for Tat

(forgot where I read that, and a long time ago.)

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 25, 2016 04:11 PM (TWEt2)

253 And I preferred it when Iowahawk did blogging rather than tweeting.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:09 PM (u0lmX)
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Me too. I loved his blog. Was very sad when he stopped blogging and just went to Twitter. He's very funny on there, but I just can't take too much of Twitter.

I still love reading Mark Steyn's blog, when he posts.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 04:11 PM (uHcnA)

254 >>> I used to do Right Wing News a lot but I got sick of his constant format changes and blog rebuilds

ah, I see why you're sticking with this site.

------------

His next post will be the top 10 AOSHQ blog site designs

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:11 PM (gmeXX)

255 Posted by: Rollory at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (L11rV)

RonPaul!!!!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2016 04:11 PM (1me8P)

256 The first big breakthrough that has to happen is fast-recharging, large-capacity batteries that are light and small.

Right now gasoline is the only super energy source we have, everything else is expensive, clumsy, limited, and inefficient. Whatever replaces gasoline will have to equal or surpass it, and we're not even a 60th of the way there. Maybe we never will be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (39g3+)

257 Thrip an cocktail thawth make a great appetyther.

Posted by: Mike Tyson at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (72Zur)

258
My first blog was Rachel whatsherface.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (qP3+D)

259 "importing "good guy" refugees from that area to North America is merely setting them up as targets for pogroms and massacres in about 10-20 years. "

Funny, the only pogroms and massacres I see going on right now are being conducted by Muslims.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (u0lmX)

260
The People's Cube

Still around, still hilarious.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (OZmbA)

261 RIP Den Beste. Never had much chance to read him other than Ace's mention.

I was explaining to my wife last night how I converted to the right and that it was because I was mugged by reality after 9/11. I remember reading some of Bill Whittle's essays and they just made sense. A few years after I came here and have been here since.

I enjoy your writing ace, and the commenters here. I'll be coming back no matter what you write about.

Posted by: Heralder at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (oCER9)

262 One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy and become the world's first trillionaire. At least I hope they do because that would be awesome.



Once they repeal the laws of physics.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (WDy4l)

263 This set up works great, its clean and easy to use, and works well on all platforms. Why the hell change?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:10 PM (39g3+)

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I agree. As long as there are enough hamsters (and they breed like hamsters, so shouldn't be a problem).

On busy days I envision dead hamsters lying around a dusty room, with their little paws in the air, and Pixy shaking her head and getting out the dustpan and brush again.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (uHcnA)

264 Posted by: Rollory at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (L11rV)

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I'm guessing that Carnegie was never on your reading list.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (kTF2Z)

265 The first big breakthrough that has to happen is fast-recharging, large-capacity batteries that are light and small.
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Don't hold your breath.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (ysprU)

266

Lucas.
Rachel Lucas.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (qP3+D)

267 A simpler way to achieve your goal is to lift the restrictions on nuclear power.

George Bush the younger did that. He even signed legislation allowing nuke builders to use decomissioned military bases for their infrastructure. Over a dozen started up the process of being built.

Then Obama was elected, and nearly all of them died. They finally built one, just finished construction last week. But the rest? It takes like 10 years to get one done, and we should have been started 20 years ago.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

268 If I had a band, I'd call it Thunderbugs

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 25, 2016 04:05 PM (WlGX+)



Too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iRYJTzMCm4

Posted by: naturalfake at October 25, 2016 04:14 PM (0cMkb)

269 I missed reading Den Beste when he stepped back from blogging. Knew that he had health problems and am sad to hear of his passing.


Posted by: Revenant at October 25, 2016 04:14 PM (3DSAh)

270 Ka mate! Ka mate!
Ka ora! Ka ora!
Ka mate! Ka mate!
Ka ora! Ka ora!

Tenei Te Tangata Puhuruhuru
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Upane! Upane!
Upane Kaupane
Whiti te ra!!!

Posted by: mx4 at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (/zv4K)

271 Stephen Den Beste, Kim Du Toit, Instapundit and Jerry Pournelle were the sites I used to read daily.

Dr. Pournelle is the last of them, and unfortunately he is not getting any younger.

He will be missed.

Posted by: Mordineus at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (7zw1/)

272
We have always lived at the HQ.
Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE!
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Easy for you to say. Wait until FenelonSpoke gets behind the keyboard.

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (eKxUP)

273 Yeah Whittle is another one of those guys who can put things together so well and say them so effectively. Eject! Eject! Eject! was one of my favorite sites. Turns out he speaks just as comfortably and well as he wrote, and in today's society a video reaches people better than all those scary words.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (39g3+)

274 " I remember reading some of Bill Whittle's essays"

Whittle's essays were great.

Wretcherd's (Richard Fernandez) still are.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (u0lmX)

275 First, there is no reason for "renewable" energy to exist, at least for grid power (most of the energy actually used in a modern society aside from liquid fuels for transportation). So just about every cent spent on making it work is a waste in terms of opportunity cost.


Second, the externality excuse, er, "rationale" for "renewable" energy is non-existent, but in its place we find the absurd unscientific conjecture of "climate change". Which is not happening in any way unusual for the billions of years of known geologic history, and in any case for which no plausible human causality has been identified.


Satellites have solar arrays, as do remote road signs or other installations off a grid. Makes sense. Otherwise, a very stupid and wasteful exercise in creating things with no real economic value.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (QDnY+)

276 When I was about six years old, my dad told me, "If you decide you want a lot of money, all you have to do is find a good way to store heat."

He was right.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (97XyN)

277 I have no idea what is happening at 271.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (DLIpz)

278 ah, I see why you're sticking with this site.
#twoweeks

Posted by: andycanuck at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (FP3TD)

279 There was another USS Clueless post about what would happen should an Islamic nation ever use nuclear weapons against the west. I seem to recall Den Beste concluding that the prudent response would be to obliterate all Islamic nations at the same time, regardless of who launched the attack. I think the argument was that a tit-for-tat exchange of nukes would just go on forever, resources of the Islamic states permitting. The humane thing to do would be to nuke all 1 billion of the ideology's adherents in one fell swoop. Wish I could find the post.

Posted by: Lickmuffin at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (f+E6d)

280
anyone remember that stupid feud with Dennis the Peasant?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (qP3+D)

281 Rachel Lucas -- I haven't thought about that blog in a very long time. Very funny writer.

Posted by: Pastafarian at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (OWWiT)

282 "One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy and become the world's first trillionaire"

You run into unsurmountable physical limits pretty quickly, I'd expect, with current "renewables."

e.g., There's only so much solar energy that hits a square meter each day, and it can be variable.

Has anyone seen anything about the energy in a hurricane as relevant to what we could conceivably get out of solar?

Wind is so 16th Century. I think it's inherently stupid except for spot applications.

I'm a half believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels, per Thomas Gold. We may be standing on the answer.






Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (r1fLd)

283 It takes like 10 years to get one done, and we should have been started 20 years ago.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

It's mature technology now. We should be able to build them in a few years.

It's an obvious answer to a simple problem, but we as a society have become existentially stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (Zu3d9)

284 ACE: All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile.

Present company excepted?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (jxbfJ)

285 Once they repeal the laws of physics.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (WDy4l)




They're not laws so much as suggestions.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (mf5HN)

286 >>268 A simpler way to achieve your goal is to lift the restrictions on nuclear power.

George Bush the younger did that. He even signed legislation allowing nuke builders to use decomissioned military bases for their infrastructure. Over a dozen started up the process of being built.

Then Obama was elected, and nearly all of them died. They finally built one, just finished construction last week. But the rest? It takes like 10 years to get one done, and we should have been started 20 years ago.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



This may be heresy here, but unless clean fusion reaction is harnessed somehow, nuclear is dirty and dangerous. And I'm talking about the waste. I supported nuclear for awhile but after the big fuckups, Chernobyl and Three-Mile Island, and after taking to my friend who was nuclear safety guy on a submarine, I would say no, let's not do fission reaction.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (OZmbA)

287 Oh, forgot third.


All the increasingly tortured engineering gymnastics to make "renewable" energy suitable for grid power, again outside of small or remote applications, do nothing to change the opportunity cost waste entailed. They just add to it.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (QDnY+)

288 Kim Du Toit - oh, yes, I forgot about him, but yes, he was good.

One dude who mysteriously dropped off the planet was The Dissident Frogman, the most sensible Frenchman on the planet. He was very funny.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (u0lmX)

289 I understand that power can be made by roasting birds. That strikes me as renewable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (ysprU)

290 As for Steven Den Beste:

I read his stuff back in the day with admiration. But I only ever communicated with him a couple times, both of which featured him (rightfully) griping at me for not paying attention to the arc of his career, when I foolishly sent him a link to one of my essays of which I was proud, and he wrote back to say, "Don't you even read my stuff any more? I stopped covering politics! Get with the program!" I was embarrassed.

Then, double-foolishly, I later sent him another self-promotional email, having forgotten his earlier reply. Totally humiliating, and totally my fault.

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 04:19 PM (jBuUi)

291 You'll never take alive, coppers!

*budda budda, budda budda*

Posted by: Ma Barker at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (ysprU)

292 271 Ka mate! Ka mate!
Ka ora! Ka ora!
Ka mate! Ka mate!
Ka ora! Ka ora!

Tenei Te Tangata Puhuruhuru
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Upane! Upane!
Upane Kaupane
Whiti te ra!!!
Posted by: mx4 at October 25, 2016 04:15 PM (/zv4K)

*slaps thighs*
*grimaces*
*sticks out tongue*

Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (0mRoj)

293 anyone remember that stupid feud with Dennis the Peasant?


Yes. Yes I do.
Posted by: King Arthur

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (WDy4l)

294 290 I understand that power can be made by roasting birds. That strikes me as renewable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (ysprU)

Bird law in this country is not based on logic.

Posted by: Charlie Kelly at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (7HtZB)

295 There was another USS Clueless post about what would happen should an Islamic nation ever use nuclear weapons against the west. I seem to recall Den Beste concluding that the prudent response would be to obliterate all Islamic nations at the same time, regardless of who launched the attack.

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I do believe Krauthammer at one time advocated a statement (and belief) that if any nuke went off in the US, we would hold Iran directly responsible and respond with nukes of our own.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (gmeXX)

296 I supported nuclear for awhile but after the big fuckups, Chernobyl and Three-Mile Island, and after taking to my friend who was nuclear safety guy on a submarine, I would say no, let's not do fission reaction.

3Mile Island was... a fizzle, and Chernobyl was using godawful tech maintained by Russians that was outdated when it was built. Your examples are like saying "those cars can't work because I saw a Benz horseless carriage wreck!"

Nuclear power plants by the thousand have been running for almost 70 years and you know of two problems? Hell the Japanese one was hit by a tsunami and wasn't a significant problem. And it was old tech, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (39g3+)

297 You'll never take me alive, coppers!

Posted by: Ma Barker at October 25, 2016 04:20 PM (ysprU)

298 "One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy

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Haven't we solved this? The answer is nuclear.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (gmeXX)

299 My first blog was Rachel whatsherface.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:12 PM (qP3+D)


Maddow?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (jR+TO)

300 289 Kim Du Toit - oh, yes, I forgot about him, but yes, he was good.

One dude who mysteriously dropped off the planet was The Dissident Frogman, the most sensible Frenchman on the planet. He was very funny.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:18 PM (u0lmX)

His video on shooty/no shooty was excellent.

Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (0mRoj)

301 Two words

Dilithium Cyrstals

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (1me8P)

302 I'm glad to see the USS Clueless is on archive.org. When he stopped blogging there, he put up a .zip file of the entire site available for anyone to download which I did of course and I even still have it. The whole site is a gem.

Posted by: sinalco the deplorable at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (yODqO)

303
Which takes us back, full circle, to Navy Bean Soup...

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (qP3+D)

304 282 Rachel Lucas -- I haven't thought about that blog in a very long time. Very funny writer.
Posted by: Pastafarian at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (OWWiT)


Me either. Very entertaining. Only learned of her from Whittle, and read her site for a little bit as well.

Not sure where she went.

Posted by: Heralder at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (oCER9)

305 I got here from the Nuke the Moon guy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (1me8P)

306 Ace, I love coming here.

I hope you continue to find things you are interested in blogging about if you get sick of writing about politics.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (q177U)

307 299 "One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy

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Haven't we solved this? The answer is nuclear.
Posted by: SH


It's unclear if it's nuclear.

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (jBuUi)

308 I'm a half believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels, per Thomas Gold. We may be standing on the answer.


Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (r1fLd)



I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

We know so very little about how the world actually works.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (mf5HN)

309 Sphynx, heresy's not a relevant concept when simple economics and physics and engineering are the only question, but no, nuclear's fine.


New-design closed-system reactors with failure-unlikely cooling systems. Put them on the CA coast, use the waste heat for direct desalination.


Tremendous positive economic impact on the situation (cheap energy, plentiful water).


Obvious. Simple. Sound. And therefore, unthinkable in a profoundly, profoundly dumbed-down society.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (QDnY+)

310 278 I have no idea what is happening at 271.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2016 04:16 PM (DLIpz)


Sorry, my bad. http://tinyurl.com/j72amla


Posted by: mx4 at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (/zv4K)

311 "All the good ones are dying, and the young ones coming up are vile."

What Ace said. We keep looking good guys and warriors. Like some kind of enemy action.

I discovered Steven about the same time I discovered Bill Whittle, likely through Instapundit but no longer sure after all these years. His brain just worked, even if he'd rather spend his time talking about anime for the last 10 years or so.

It was very sad how long it took for someone to find his body...God...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (hR1Jj)

312 302 Two words

Dilithium Cyrstals
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2016 04:21 PM (1me8P)

We've secretly replaced the Enterprise's dilithium crystals with Folger's Crystals. Let's see if they notice.

Posted by: That guy who replaces stuff with Folger's Crystals at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (7HtZB)

313 One day someone is going to solve the scalability problem in renewable energy

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Haven't we solved this? The answer is nuclear.
Posted by: SH

It's unclear if it's nuclear.




Is it oldclear or nuclear?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (WDy4l)

314 "They finally built one, just finished construction last week. But the rest? It takes like 10 years to get one done, and we should have been started 20 years ago."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)


Any other form of power needs to stay in the private sector, as does distribution. But nuclear, with it's liability, disposal, licensing and other problems needs to be owned by the federal government.

500 identical plants, spread across the country and linked for redundancy would eliminate the possibility of a catastrophic event taking down a large portion of the national grid.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (Zs4uk)

315 I got here from the Nuke the Moon guy.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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Michelle Malkin, quoting some guy called 'Ace'. I never looked back.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 04:24 PM (9mTYi)

316 The affartable health care Program passed by our Presdent of Color has been sabotaged by the Republicans in Congress. bus probably has something to do with this also and that is why we hate him. bush should be arrested for his involvement in making the US healthcare System a mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at October 25, 2016 04:24 PM (NuElX)

317 Den Beste was one of the first serious conservative bloggers I read, mostly through printouts from CPT Charles, who abused his workplace printing privileges. He had a lot of good things to say, and I probably wouldn't be a AoS member today without him. I will miss his insights on politics, science, tech, and anime.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 25, 2016 04:24 PM (ry4ab)

318 We know so very little about how the world actually works.

Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (mf5HN)


This is the world's biggest secret, says a guy who just got out of the hospital with a diagnosis of "shrug."

People are terrified of saying the magic words "I Don't Know," even though that's usually the answer.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (ZoRF7)

319 309 I'm a half believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels, per Thomas Gold. We may be standing on the answer.


Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (r1fLd)


I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

We know so very little about how the world actually works.
Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (mf5HN)



Aliens.

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (z/Ubi)

320 I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

Yeah its pretty obvious there's no possible way these vast oceans of petroleum formed from the processes people thought they came from in the past. Something is generating them, and abiogenic makes sense to me. Life is way more complicated and strange than we understand.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (39g3+)

321 Any other form of power needs to stay in the private sector, as does distribution. But nuclear, with it's liability, disposal, licensing and other problems needs to be owned by the federal government.

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From the guys that brought you the Obamacare websites and the TSA?

No thanks. I have much more faith and trust in the private sector.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (gmeXX)

322 It was very sad how long it took for someone to find his body...God...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 25, 2016 04:23 PM (hR1Jj)

What did he die of?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (u0lmX)

323 "Nuke the Moon" was Frank J. Fleming, wasn't it? Is he still around?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (Yqy2r)

324 The unhinged Democrat cabal that runs my old hometown contracted with some outfit to put up a huge field full of solar generators to supply power to the huge den of mediocrity they put up to high school the entire city. It was supposed to save billions they said.


They are losing $500 million dollars a month on it for what GA power would have provided. And the lease is obligated for 5 years with an option for the contractor to renew for another 5 years "if" he wants. There was no debate on this from the city council at all.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (mpXpK)

325 I seriously cannot recall how I came to this blog(not pulling a Hillary).I used to go to John Nolte' s blog back when he was anonymous and known as Dirty Harry.I only looked in at LGF when the whole fraud document thing was going on and never commented there.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (fA75F)

326 The very first blog I ever read was Andrew Sullivan's - back before he became completely unhinged over gay marriage.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 25, 2016 04:06 PM (u0lmX)


Yeah, I remember watching that happen, as it happened. Took about 2-4 weeks, as I recall. It was like watching a pat of butter slide slowly off of a hot waffle onto the side of the plate.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (jR+TO)

327 We just need to harness the million degree heat from the earth's core.

Posted by: Al Gore at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (1me8P)

328 Aliens.
Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (z/Ubi)

It's the only available explanation for Giorgio Tsoulakos' hair.

Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (0mRoj)

329 Jwest, be reasonable, 435 nukes

Posted by: Senor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (ngn8T)

330
That guy Elon Musk ain't gonna come up with anything new for energy.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:26 PM (qP3+D)

331 >>Nuclear power plants by the thousand have been running for almost 70 years and you know of two problems? Hell the Japanese one was hit by a tsunami and wasn't a significant problem. And it was old tech, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at


I'm saying humans can be stupid (three-mile) and inept (chernobyl) and nuclear is nothing to be stupid or inept with. And I'm saying the waste. the waste. the waste. Google 'known nuclear waste leaks'

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (OZmbA)

332 Nuclear power plants by the thousand have been running for almost 70 years and you know of two problems? Hell the Japanese one was hit by a tsunami and wasn't a significant problem. And it was old tech, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Shit.
We had an earthquake here in Va a few years ago - the epicenter of which was right there at the North Anna Power Plant, and no problems whatsoever.

8 won't live to see it, but I would love to know that home nuclear power plants are on the horizon.
Hell, I'd settle for hydrogen production in the backyard at this point. (Only 50 years too late)

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (eKxUP)

333 322 Any other form of power needs to stay in the private sector, as does distribution. But nuclear, with it's liability, disposal, licensing and other problems needs to be owned by the federal government.

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From the guys that brought you the Obamacare websites and the TSA?

No thanks. I have much more faith and trust in the private sector.
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (gmeXX)

Blackouts for red states!

Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (0mRoj)

334 Jwest, be reasonable, 435 nukes

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I want my own nuclear power box. Definitely not one connected to anything run by the federal government.

Posted by: SH at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (gmeXX)

335 What bothered me about Andrew Sullivan is that he didn't go "well they're wrong about this topic" he went "I disagree with them on this topic so every single thing their enemies said must be totally factual and accurate and I reject the previous 30 years of my entire life in a matter of hours!!!!!!

That's not enlightenment or a shift in viewpoint. That's insanity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (39g3+)

336 Colonel Kurtz, I answered your question in the last thread regarding the Michelle for Senate rumor. Please check it there.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (oDUj/)

337 Did someone say Everclear? Guess I should clear my calendar for tomorrow.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (kTF2Z)

338 e.g., There's only so much solar energy that hits a square meter each day, and it can be variable.


I think that mid-day, sea level, no clouds, etc. it's about 1 kW/m^2, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (SRKgf)

339 "Nuke the Moon" was Frank J. Fleming, wasn't it? Is he still around?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at October 25, 2016 04:25 PM (Yqy2r)


Yes, http://imao.us is still around

Although Frank has out-sourced most of the daily blogging chores to others.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (jR+TO)

340 Not sure where she went.

Rachel Lucas got married to a Brit and moved to England. She started blogging again, but I don't think she had quite the same enthusiasm for it. Hasn't put anything new up since 2014.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (4WhSY)

341 Does an archive of all his work exist? Tom Kratman put up an offer on his Facebook page today offering to see it published conventionally if anyone has commo with the family.

Apparently he was a big fan.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (0wm3C)

342 IMAO, Rachel Lucas, Blackfive, and AoS. I can't remember which one led to the others. There were a few others, of course, Jawa being one of them.

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (RwwCT)

343 309 I'm a half believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels, per Thomas Gold. We may be standing on the answer.


Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (r1fLd)


I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

We know so very little about how the world actually works.
Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE!


I too, in hushed tones when I think no one is around, suspect that some (if not all) "fossil fuel" is either abiogenic, or, alternately, that it IS biogenic, but there are vast vast oceans of it deeper in the mantle from billion upon billion of years of dead continent-wide forests. We just haven't discovered it yet.

The fabulous part is that is we keep burning as much as possible and put more and more of that delicious carbon back into use in the atmosphere, then we will be feeding future generations of more forests in a "global re-greening" (which is already starting to happen thanks to the Industrial Revolution). So the cycle is complete and self-regenerating and life-positive.

Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (jBuUi)

344 Jeebus. Coal and natural gas, some nuke. Not much assembly required. Easy. No economic or other argument for any alternative (make-believe "environmental" rationalizations are dismissed, sorry).


Chernobyl? First, children and matches, Soviets and nuclear energy (repeat that three times). Second, well, Soviets.


Fukushima. You'd never have heard the term if 1) the state-of-art geologic forecasting at the time it was built were correct 2) they didn't decide to save money by putting the back-up generators down below, instead of up at the level of the reactors (this was linked to #1, the geologic/tsunami assumptions). Believe it was in fact the oldest commercial power nuke station in service at the time of the tsunami.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (QDnY+)

345
there is a nood

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (qP3+D)

346 I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.


Hey, look, sorry, okay?

But, our crap's gotta go somewhere.





After 500 years, you'd think we good've come up with a good cure for Mole Man Dysentery, but....Noooooo.

Posted by: The Mole Men at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (0cMkb)

347 Although Frank has out-sourced most of the daily blogging chores to others.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (jR+TO)

Partly why I stopped visiting IMAO.

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at October 25, 2016 04:29 PM (RwwCT)

348 I'm a half believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels, per Thomas Gold. We may be standing on the answer.


Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:17 PM (r1fLd)


I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

We know so very little about how the world actually works.
Posted by: alexthechick - GO TRIBE! at October 25, 2016 04:22 PM (mf5HN)


Aliens.
Posted by: buzzion

That deep underground I'd go with aboleth

Posted by: Senor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:29 PM (ngn8T)

349 Not sure where she went.
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Didn't she go to England when her husband got transferred some years ago?

Posted by: Azathoth at October 25, 2016 04:29 PM (5WUYo)

350 That guy Elon Musk ain't gonna come up with anything new for energy.

He doesn't come up with anything new, period. He's Steve Jobs on the dole, he tells people what he wants and pays with it by sticking his hand out for the government to fill. I cannot understand the reverence for this putz.

And while I don't trust the government either? Jwest is right about this one. No company can possibly handle the liability and other legal issues.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:29 PM (39g3+)

351 I'm becoming more of a believer in the abiogenic formation of fossil fuels. Either that or it's some kind of biological process we do not yet comprehend.

Yeah its pretty obvious there's no possible way these vast oceans of petroleum formed from the processes people thought they came from in the past. Something is generating them, and abiogenic makes sense to me. Life is way more complicated and strange than we understand.



Xacly. Earth is only so big. To be covered as much as it had to be covered by plants to produce enough oil for over 100 years?

And that doesn't explain how "once dry" holes are filling up again.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2016 04:30 PM (WDy4l)

352 >>every single thing their enemies said must be totally factual and accurate and I reject the previous 30 years of my entire life in a matter of hours!!!!!!

That's not enlightenment or a shift in viewpoint. That's insanity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a


And it was Sarah Palin's cooter that did it.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 25, 2016 04:30 PM (OZmbA)

353 I think that mid-day, sea level, no clouds, etc. it's about 1 kW/m^2, IIRC.
That have to be kept clean using water. Aren't enviros going nuts about places running out of water? It's almost as if they're full of sh1t.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 25, 2016 04:31 PM (FP3TD)

354 "I disagree with them on this topic so every single thing their enemies said must be totally factual and accurate and I reject the previous 30 years of my entire life in a matter of hours!!!!!!
That's not enlightenment or a shift in viewpoint. That's insanity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 04:27 PM (39g3+)


It was worse than that. He kept shifting on this thing and that thing and this thing in particular, all the while insisting he was being "conservative." And if you brought up something he said last week that contradicted what he was saying now, he'd get mad. And insist again that he was the "true" conservative.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 25, 2016 04:31 PM (jR+TO)

355 Take it from somebody who worked in the Nuclear Power Industry for over 30 years. It needs to remain a regulated private industry. The only thing I would change is who does the regulating. I would totally take it away from Washington and give it to the States. I would also fix it so that interveners get one shot in the courts and that is it.


That is what is causing the death of nuclear power, endless chained civil suits which stops construction, one after another. All the while eating up interest costs on billions of dollars in loans. For which the interveners always lose but NEVER have to pay the legal costs.


The problem with Washington being the regulators is that people like dirty hairy get to be in charge they kill it for years until they can be bounced out of control.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 25, 2016 04:31 PM (mpXpK)

356 The Mandela effect is changing the origin of oil.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2016 04:32 PM (q177U)

357
Rachel Lucas got married to a Brit and moved to England. She started blogging again, but I don't think she had quite the same enthusiasm for it. Hasn't put anything new up since 2014.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 25, 2016 04:28 PM (4WhSY)


Oh, that's right!

Posted by: Heralder at October 25, 2016 04:33 PM (oCER9)

358 I loved his blog, and will miss him.

Posted by: Bob at October 25, 2016 04:34 PM (ixM4j)

359 " I would say no, let's not do fission reaction."

If I understand it right, nuclear reactors harness energy released by elements like uranium and thorium that would get released anyway over time. We're just concentrating the release in one spot.

When you make an A-bomb your're just creating a chain reaction that makes the entire energy release go off in a fraction of a second.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 25, 2016 04:35 PM (r1fLd)

360 It is black blood of the earth!

Posted by: Egg Shen at October 25, 2016 04:35 PM (72Zur)

361 The 435 plants would be DoD GOCOs, because energy security is a national security matter. Bigfoot all the lawsuits. Common design criteria, no liability, make Yucca mountain a national security issue and screw the courts.

Posted by: Senor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:36 PM (ngn8T)

362 Nood Amy Schumer.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 25, 2016 04:36 PM (FP3TD)

363 Anyone remember the Blogalypse

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 25, 2016 04:38 PM (P/kVC)

364 Ace, here's the original post you were looking for at a mirror of his blog:

https://erbosoft.com/ussclueless/cd_log_entries/
2004/06/Energyscalingproblems.htm

h/t: Kathy Shaidle
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2016/10/25/blogging-
pioneer-stephen-denbeste-uss-clueless-1952-2016/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 25, 2016 04:40 PM (R+30W)

365 356 "Take it from somebody who worked in the Nuclear Power Industry for over 30 years. It needs to remain a regulated private industry."


Ideally, I would like to see a quasi-independent "Nuclear Power Authority" that has oversight over all the plants. One design. Common training. Total immunity from lawsuits. Military security. Spread across the country, but only in communities that welcome them. Feeding free power to distribution companies, so if you want a new steel mill to get basically free power, build the mill next to the nuke plant. If you want your Malibu beachhouse well away from from a nuke, pay for the transportation costs.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:40 PM (Zs4uk)

366 @Tom Kratman: Off topic, I know, but I really enjoyed Watch on the Rhine.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 25, 2016 04:41 PM (eXSOZ)

367 It was you, Allahpundit, Jeff G and USS Clueless that opened the door to this whole bloggy thing. Once SDB quit the USS Clueless, I followed him to Chizumatic, where my love of anime started.

He was brilliant, and very dry at times, but always a great read.

Just don't ever make a suggestion.

Posted by: topmaker at October 25, 2016 04:41 PM (PFoeF)

368 I've hotlinked Anon Y. Mous's link to Kathy Shaidle's blog in my sock! (And I'll be using it late tonight.)

Posted by: andycanuck at October 25, 2016 04:41 PM (FP3TD)

369 Imagine the teeth gnashing if it could be proven that life itself started in abiogenic oil puddles not the other way around.

Posted by: Senor Jean at October 25, 2016 04:42 PM (ngn8T)

370 I always thought if one entered into solar or wind energy along with natural gas or coal for a steam turbine type plant then you could at peak output heat the water enough with the renewable source to generate steam and the rest of the time you could vary the amount of fossil fuel needed to adjust for any partial heating from your renewable input and keep a steady output.

*IF* we were short of fossil fuels or CO2 was a serious problem this might make sense as a way to get to oh maybe 30-40% renewable energy. Since those are not real problems the added expense and footprint needed for such a hybrid power plant would not be a good idea IMO.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 25, 2016 04:45 PM (dkExz)

371 Oh, sure, I'm the only one whose first blogs were Diablo Cody and Belle Du Jour. Right.

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 04:45 PM (7zeA4)

372 What the hell would the NE do for three months of winter when it's grey skies?
Posted by: rickb223

Rural folks will do what they always have done. Burn wood.

Wind towers generate intermittent power, which goes to heat insulated vaults (or buried tanks) filled with molten salts. The thermal storage is used to generate smooth power on demand. Alternatively, the wind power can be used for hydrolysis, separating oxygen and hydrogen, to be burnt for power on demand.

There was a news blurb recently about carbon dioxide converted to gasoline, but don't know the details...

Posted by: Vodka'n Lime at October 25, 2016 04:48 PM (nIGPZ)

373 I'm also a big believer in the abiogenic theory of "fossil fuels".

But it's just a matter of faith at this point. I can't really back it up.

Posted by: moviegique at October 25, 2016 04:49 PM (7zeA4)

374 372 What the hell would the NE do for three months of winter when it's grey skies?
Posted by: rickb223


That's the lunacy of solar and wind, which are worthless.

Civilization advances when energy becomes cheaper and more abundant. Civilization declines whenever energy is reduced.

There is no future in "conservation" or even "energy efficiency". Only when electrical energy is as available and expensive as air will we achieve a better quality of life.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2016 04:56 PM (Zs4uk)

375 on nuke power, a couple of quick notes:

the ONLY reason that we have problems with nuclear waste is because a guy with the last name Carter made it illegal to reprocess spent nuclear fuel. Everyone else in the world does it, but he decided that it would discourage nuclear proliferation if we didn't reprocess spent fuel that you can't make into a nuclear weapon.

Want to see what we SHOULD be testing out ? Go search "integral fast reactor", a promising design that Clinton I killed.

Posted by: Mordineus at October 25, 2016 04:58 PM (7zw1/)

376 271 Mordineus
Bingo, and add Samizdata, which somehow led me to Ace of Spades...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 25, 2016 05:04 PM (CzSs6)

377 And of course Powerline, Curmudgeonly and Skeptical, SondraK, and LGF...
LGF...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 25, 2016 05:07 PM (CzSs6)

378 @Donna

That I haven't heard. His blog had been quiet since the big windstorm hit Oregon. Some of his regulars finally called local police who located his brother in town. They said they'd handle it in the family, last I heard.

Website's still up, if any anime fans want to download copies. Even if you didn't like the art form, SDB had pretty good taste. His reviews of several series got me to watch them. Some were good, some just odd cheesecake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 25, 2016 05:07 PM (hR1Jj)

379 http://metatalk.metafilter.com/24230/RIP-Steven-den-Beste

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 25, 2016 05:16 PM (467Et)

380 The erbosoft mirror did not capture all of the articles.

I would post links for comparison but this !@#$ comment system doesn't like real uris for some reason.

Posted by: goodluckduck at October 25, 2016 05:22 PM (yqvys)

381 To be more clear, one of the erbosoft mirror articles was truncated. Maybe others are as well.

https://erbosoft.com/ussclueless/cd_log_entries/2002/10/ItsOKtobewrong.htm

Posted by: goodluckduck at October 25, 2016 05:23 PM (yqvys)

382 After getting bounced from LGF, I went to Flopping Aces, but they updated their blogging software and not wouldn't work with my old browser on a live CD so I ended up here.

Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 05:36 PM (ngn8T)

383 Ah, LGF. Spent some time there, posted a few times, then Charles went full throttle on the batshit crazy train. I think I actually found Ace from Den Beste, and lurked for a while until I finally posted. And thanks to whoever reminded me of The People's Cube. I need to head on over there, loved the humour!

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at October 25, 2016 05:41 PM (Gim9y)

384 Thanks Ace, and thanks to all you in the Horde as well. This is probably the only place on the web where a memorial thread would contain a joke about an obscure D&D monster in relation to the abiogenic oil hypothesis.

Don't ever change.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 25, 2016 06:18 PM (2yngH)

385 I started reading blogs with Den Beste.
He was the best.

Posted by: obsidian at October 25, 2016 06:33 PM (ARK2U)

386 Nice work. He was always worth reading.

Posted by: texascarl at October 25, 2016 06:47 PM (T6HQG)

387 ..I'm also a big believer in the abiogenic theory of "fossil fuels"....

Read some of Velikovsky's "Earth in Upheaval".

This was the book after "Worlds in Collision".

"Earth in Upheaval" suggests that coal might have been made by a cataclysm that deposited most of the organic life of the time in any available hole and then covered it up. Might not be true but no one has explained the shredded insects in coal as far as I know.

Posted by: Ok at October 25, 2016 07:23 PM (xZKI4)

388 When SDB indicated he was about to shutter USS Clueless, I asked him for a copy of his archive, which he sent. I need to go find it (its been years and at least two household moves), but if I find it and it is readable, is there any possibility to (or interest in) re-hosting what I have from him somewhere?

Posted by: poppanuke at October 25, 2016 07:32 PM (cxZbT)

389 I just saw 302 from sinalco the deplorable. . . so its available. . . Good.

Posted by: poppanuke at October 25, 2016 07:35 PM (cxZbT)

390 There's a copy here: https://erbosoft.com/ussclueless/

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 25, 2016 07:43 PM (2yngH)

391 Den Beste is gone ... the auld days are gone forever.

I was one of the regulars on this site back in the old days, before 9/11 even. I instigated the discussion on longbows. Anyone remember?

I'm feeling a bit misty-eyed and nostalgic, what with Steven's passing and all.

Bbeck and Kevlarchick, if you're reading this ... I still love you both.

Posted by: Steve (a.k.a. Ed Snate) at October 25, 2016 08:39 PM (4/5lJ)

392 Godspeed to a great mind and soul.
Remember reading him after 9/11, Old West era of blogs. He showed us a potential future like Leonard Bernstein and Young People's Concerts in the late '60's.
May those who follow stand upon his shoulders and do better and greater things, though I doubt we will.
Hope his family finds solace in our fond remembrances.

Posted by: Joe Mack at October 25, 2016 08:41 PM (QX0Xt)

393 Here are a couple on alternate energy.

http://tinyurl.com/jc9ewx5

http://tinyurl.com/jgu6gfl

I downloaded the archive in 2010 but have to translate the urls over to what the Wayback machine recognizes.

Posted by: geoffb5 at October 25, 2016 11:42 PM (d3wbb)

394 Steven Den Best would be a giant of an intellect in any era.
I feel privileged that he graced at least part of mine.

Thanks Steven, and RIP.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2016 11:42 PM (8MFrj)

395 I did, bluebell, yesterday.

Posted by: Tom Kratman at October 26, 2016 05:16 AM (0NULD)

396 I still feel terrible about giving him heat concerning, about what I thought at the time, his overarching regard for anime. RIP, good sir.

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at October 26, 2016 04:08 PM (BnOvL)

397 Then again, I ranted similarly against Allahpundit's link-fests, which Vic emulates now, and which I love. It's amazing what a decade of sobriety allows you to appreciate. Meh.

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at October 26, 2016 04:15 PM (BnOvL)

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