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GunThread: Cleaning Tips And Other Assorted Drudgery [CBD]

Someone recommended this web site, and while I bookmarked it, I failed to note who pointed me in this direction, so my apologies to the unknown Moronette (I assume).

The Cornered Cat

This site is about women and guns, not about cats. But in a way, it's about the cornered cat in all of us. It's about the determination to get away from an attacker if you need to. It's about making the decision to say, "Not me. Not mine. Not today." And it's about the tools to make that decision stick.

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Now that everyone has fired their postal match and submitted it, what brilliant tips do you have for The Horde for cleaning your pistol? I am a firm believer that more weapons have been ruined by cleaning than by firing. I do a quick wipedown to remove salt from my sweat, and powder residue, then scrub a bit with Hoppes #9 just because that's what my dad taught me. I try to fire a few FMJs at the end of the session to clean the barrel of some leading, and then a few strokes with a brush as I can get away with, a few swabs, and I am done with cleaning. A light coating of oil, and that is it.

But there are dozens of systems and hundreds of tools and swabs and brushes and benches, all designed to do something that most of us find mildly pleasant at best, but a PITA occasionally.

So what do you use? I have been eying those flexible barrel cleaners, but haven't pulled the trigger on them yet because I shoot so rarely that it simply isn't worth it.

GP100 1705.jpg

Man....I really want one of these....

I compared it to the S&W and for my hand there was no comparison. Of course the gun store had a Colt Python too....for a mere $2,500. Ouch.

arisaka_3.jpg

The claim was these had weak actions and were crappy, backward rifles.

Nope.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:40 PM




Comments

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1 what brilliant tips do you have for The Horde for cleaning your pistol?
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get your significant other to do it - then get them to make a sammich

Posted by: batterup at October 23, 2016 08:40 PM (mtGE/)

2 Sorry, I didn't make it to the range to participate. Shame - I just bought a longslide pistol and it would have been perfect.

What rifle is that? I don't recognize it.

Posted by: WhiteKnight at October 23, 2016 08:40 PM (pC493)

3 About the way I clean mine. Simple. Effective. Do it right.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2016 08:41 PM (0tfLf)

4 Jap Arisaka.

Posted by: CMU VET at October 23, 2016 08:42 PM (C+wjz)

5 I read Cornered Cat last year - I especially liked the bit where she described how she handled her kids' curiosity.

Posted by: WhiteKnight at October 23, 2016 08:43 PM (pC493)

6 #4 Jap Arisaka


A Type 99? Who on God's green Earth ever claimed a Type 99 had a weak action?

Posted by: WhiteKnight at October 23, 2016 08:43 PM (pC493)

7 All gun advice is subject the assholes and opinions test: But nothing compares to a hands-on experience.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 08:44 PM (3P6RA)

8 "what brilliant tips do you have for The Horde for cleaning your pistol?"

Get a Glock. No cleaning necessary

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 23, 2016 08:46 PM (bQxkN)

9 Yesterday my sister posted on FB a photo of herself at an
Arizona gun range. She'd fight like a cornered cat. Hillsdale grad as well.














She'd fight like a cornered cat.

Posted by: BAR Brother at October 23, 2016 08:46 PM (gwG9s)

10 All gun advice is subject TO the...

Damn lag. It's getting worse.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 08:47 PM (3P6RA)

11 My Type 99 has a very smooth action.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2016 08:49 PM (0tfLf)

12 I have an Arisaka, which has a cartridge that looks to all the world like you're going to fire an entire pencil down the barrel, that still has the Chrysanthemum.

I saw one sporterized on the used racks up in Pennsylvania last year, and it was a fine looking old deer gun.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 23, 2016 08:52 PM (TnUKj)

13 Yesterday's gunshow find....

I was about to buy a very nice early metal grip Savage 1907 .32 for $450, then wandered off to mull it over. I have one of those... Do I need another?

Two tables over, Bubba McFatt is selling his brother-in-laws guns... And there is a better Savage. A WWII military Savage 720 12 gauge riot gun.

A perfect arsenal re-finish and parkerizing at the Raritan Arsenal (after the war, presumably). 100% original and 99% condition.

It has the correct US PROPERTY mark (a slightly odd flaming bomb - as seen on all the Savage riots), and a serial between 69,000 and 90,000 - which is correct for the Savage contract - and the original ramped/bead sight.

He wanted $450, but apparently didn't know it was US military, so I liberated it from Bubba's clutches for $350 after a bit of truly disingenuous haggling and a phone call to the BIL.

Ordered a case of 100 double-aught buckshot today. All set for the post-election riots.

Posted by: retropox at October 23, 2016 08:52 PM (0p4zG)

14 Hoppe's just works period. Clean bore and a clean soul.

Type 99....just got an oldie that needed tender loving care. Broke stock, bent safety, broke firing pin.

Got her cleaned up with....you guessed it...Hoppe's. Bore was so dirty you could barely make out the rifling and this Type 99, made in 1942, had a chromed bore.

Got her working again....bulls from the bench at 50 and 100 yards first three shots.. Never had to adjust the sight. Did I mention Hoppe's just works?

The Type 99 feels a lot like the 1903....light and sporty but packs a wallop.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 08:52 PM (ej1L0)

15 Tam at View from the Porch blog routinely runs guns for thousands of rounds without cleaning. Sometimes without taking them out of the vehicle to get them out of the weather.

Most of the pistols she tests pass the abuse tests rather well, and if a gun has multiple ftf or fte it is usually a particular brand of ammo that gun doesn't care for.

Not recommended, but the clean-every-time thing seems a bit overkill too.

unless of course, you won't use that gun again for 6 months.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 08:52 PM (kKHcp)

16 I tried to submit my postal match results, but the email kept bouncing back. I'm sure I am just an idiot. I had a good time shooting though!

Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 08:53 PM (/O5Ax)

17 no good deed, oh no! The deadline is today, right? Ask Weasel to help you - I think he sent his in.

All that work - you've got to keep trying!

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 08:55 PM (uHcnA)

18
...then wandered off to mull it over.

ALWAYS the best thing to do before buying anything.

Walk away. Think it over. Maybe you'll change your mind, maybe something better will come along.

The WORST thing you can do is buy something based on FOMO.

FOMO is Fear Of Missing Out.



Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 08:56 PM (Wpz0e)

19 Ed's Red for the truly neglected barrel. Otherwise patches, brass brush, rem oil, break free, and hoppes seem to be just fine.

Posted by: Drill Thrawl at October 23, 2016 08:56 PM (f75SB)

20 No good deed, i sent my results in this afternoon. Check the address, may just be a typo.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 08:57 PM (Bpc14)

21 I have been eying those flexible barrel cleaners, but haven't pulled the trigger on them yet because I shoot so rarely that it simply isn't worth it. -CBD-

Are you talking about a bore snake? Because I can recommend them.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 08:57 PM (kKHcp)

22 OT - that Youtube video on the sidebar "Clinton Stumbles, Steadies Self on Table as She Approaches Podium at Al Smith Dinner" has been edited to remove the stumble.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at October 23, 2016 08:58 PM (BcNLK)

23 FOMO is hard to fight as a novice collector.

I got over it, though.

I have a large set of Savage .32's, but this one was nice. But not exceptional. Wandering off yielded the riot.

win.

Posted by: retropox at October 23, 2016 08:58 PM (0p4zG)

24 I would wear Hoppes #9 as a cologne. What a happy scent.

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 23, 2016 08:59 PM (G2Sc9)

25 The Japanese had a whole section of the war materials industry building training rifles. I know a dealer who was asked to bid on an estate of someone who collected them.
Those were always marked with a variation on "do not use live ball" or "training only" or some-such. Unfortunately they were marked in Kanji or Katakana . . .

Some were designed to use a wooden bullet cartridge to allow target shooting as well, and in a last-ditch situation they might have been brought out. But the full strength cartridge would blow the action up.

I think that would be the reason for thinking they were bad actions. That and American Rifleman magazine from the 50's

A lot of wildcats were built on Arisaka actions.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 08:59 PM (lPUaT)

26 I have a last ditch 99 with Mum. Simplified in many areas and a bit rough in fit and finish but I hear the metallurgy was still sound. Haven't shot it yet but maybe take it out next summer.

Posted by: Keith at October 23, 2016 08:59 PM (USf3s)

27 Hoppes makes good cologne. For serious bore cleaning of copper I use Barnes CX 10

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 23, 2016 08:59 PM (b7SBM)

28 Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 08:53 PM (/O5Ax)
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no good deed - send me the pic of your target and I will send it in!

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 08:59 PM (Sfs6o)

29 I can vouch for Ed's Red working very well. Need to make up a new batch.

Posted by: Mordineus at October 23, 2016 09:01 PM (7zw1/)

30 OT
Hillary Clinton campaigned at an early voting location on Sunday in
Raleigh, North Carolina, in a potential violation of electioneering
laws.

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Yeah. She's totally secure about her victory.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 23, 2016 09:01 PM (zu88C)

31 The WORST thing you can do is buy something based on FOMO.

FOMO is Fear Of Missing Out.



Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 08:56 PM (Wpz0e)

And yet sometimes you just have to pull the trigger on a deal Right F'n Now or you miss a good thing.
I had a chance to buy a Tikka .270 with a Swarvoski scope on it for 1200, and passed to look up the values. The scope was worth more.

Bummer.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 09:02 PM (kKHcp)

32
Anyone else use lots of Qtips when cleaning?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:02 PM (Wpz0e)

33
Oh sure, some times you do miss out. But prudence is usually the best thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:03 PM (Wpz0e)

34 Cleaning - Hoppes 9 and Ballistol as a rust inhibitor for handguns and non-match rifles.

For match barrels - Wipe-Out (no brush) or Bore Tech Eliminator with a nylon brush. And Hoppes 9 because I like the smell.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:04 PM (Sfs6o)

35 Oh, I absolutely mis-typed the address...twice. Dang, I AM getting old. LOL

Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 09:06 PM (/O5Ax)

36 Buy a boresnake for a rifle, they do work very well, and for a cursory cleaning, or just wiping down the bore, they are wonderful.

I don't use Hoppes because it is not ideal for using as a preservative. After several seasons it can turn into a fine deposit of peanut butter in your action.

I use CLP. It cleans nicely.

Oh, for the black powder revolvers like Colts, just take the grips off, disassemble and use soapy hot water. You can run them through the dishwasher, but I think most wives disagree with that use of kitchen equipment.
I used to dismount my BP rifles, strip, and clean them in the shower. Less clean up than doing it in the living room.


*mmm, thinks of a calendar option for Buckskinners' Magazine*

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 09:06 PM (lPUaT)

37 Sooth, depending on what I'm cleaning, I'll go through quite a few. I don't like to use them, though, because of all the strands. We need a lint-free Q-tip.

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 23, 2016 09:06 PM (G2Sc9)

38 "And yet sometimes you just have to pull the trigger on a deal Right F'n Now or you miss a good thing. "

...like someone standing behind me at the show who also knew the Savage 720 wasn't just a cut down old autoloader clone of the Browning Auto-5.

Posted by: retropox at October 23, 2016 09:07 PM (0p4zG)

39
We need a lint-free Q-tip.

Those would be perfect.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:07 PM (Wpz0e)

40 Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 09:06 PM (/O5Ax)
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Nothing wrong with your eyes and trigger finger!

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:07 PM (Sfs6o)

41 Thank goodness, Weasel. LOL

Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 09:09 PM (/O5Ax)

42 32 Anyone else use lots of Qtips when cleaning?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:02 PM (Wpz0e)


Only when I'm cleaning my ears after a shower. And, yes I use Hoppes #9 in my ears to prevent rust.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 09:09 PM (nvMvs)

43 Oh sure, some times you do miss out. But prudence is usually the best thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:03 PM (Wpz0e)

No doubt about it, especially if one is unsure of the value of a deal. But it causes non-buyers regret too.

Also, if you just happen to have "extra" money rolling around in your pocket and come across something you really want, buy it.
I passed on a Model 29- (I think it was a 2) because I'm practical, but I haven't again laid eyes on one as nice at near the price.
Everyone know why I'd want that gun. Same reason everybody wants that gun.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 09:10 PM (kKHcp)

44 @32 yes in cleaning the chamber of my lever action. Dipped liberally in eau de Hoppes. Bore snake for the barrel: first Hoppes then light lubricant . I think promptness beats aggressiveness. Just clean it right away and don't do damage. Whenever I take it to a smith they tell me barrel is pristine.

Posted by: Xnycpeasant at October 23, 2016 09:10 PM (szQGH)

45 Drudge has a link (in red) to a Podesta email about poll rigging that everyone needs to read.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 23, 2016 09:10 PM (+wjl1)

46 in a potential violation of electioneering
laws.


Depressing the Republican turnout as they flee in horror.

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2016 09:10 PM (/wWB4)

47 Ling free Q-tip.

Put a small patch around one or around a cleaning pick.

Posted by: Drill Thrawl at October 23, 2016 09:11 PM (f75SB)

48 We need a lint-free Q-tip.


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Those would be perfect.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:07 PM (Wpz0e)


Telfa, maybe telfa dressings might work.

I was thinking of a pop-up dispenser for cleaning patches like the baby-wipes (but much smaller) but I never could figure out what to do about it. Does one call the CLP company and pitch an idea?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 09:12 PM (lPUaT)

49 To avoid the Q tip lint I've also used old cotton Ts wrapped around wooden chopsticks. Figure the wood being softer than metal you can't do any harm.

Posted by: Xnycpeasant at October 23, 2016 09:12 PM (szQGH)

50 My grandfather gave me a Japanese Type 99 Paratrooper Takedown rechambered for 30-06. It's kinda cool because it breaks down into two pieces with the turn of a screw.

It's louder than fuck and a good wild pig rifle. My only regret is I never got to shoot it with Pa-Pa when he was alive.

Stay Turgid, Morons.

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at October 23, 2016 09:13 PM (V07Wt)

51 "We need a lint-free Q-tip."

Go to any Hobby Lobby. In the plastic model section. Look for precision paint tips. They are pointed and expensive but they are lint free.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 23, 2016 09:13 PM (d76uN)

52 "[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table. These include the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home. Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of our Nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security, and where gun violence is a serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct."

Posted by: The Nino Lives at October 23, 2016 09:13 PM (Ndje9)

53 Sort of an amendment to #34 above regarding Boretech - I will brush out the barrel with several passes of a nylon brush until I feel the carbon ring disappear, then make a bunch of passes with cotton patches using Boretech, until they're coming out clean. I clean my match guns every 90 rounds and REALLY clean out all the copper fouling every 250 rounds or so.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:14 PM (Sfs6o)

54 Hoppes is excellent for removing powder fouling from barrels and other "gunk" from actions.

It will NOT remove "copper" jacket fouling.

For that you need the wonderful, evil-smelling "Sweets", ammonia-based stuff so beloved of Australian shooters.

That rifle looks like a late-production Type 99 Arisaka. Note the crudely-turned bolt handle knob.

The earlier Type 38 (6.5mm) Ariakas are even tougher than the Type 99. P. O. Ackley did a series of tests on sundry "surplus" actions and basically could NOT blow up (as in DESTROY) a Type 38.

Un-bubba'ed Type 99s are reasonably scarce these days. They are less desirable from a "sporterizing" pioint of view (in the US, anyway), because of the metric breech thread; the older Type 38s are Imperial, right down to the triggerguard screws.

Modern, reloadable ammo is available, at a "reasonable price.

Posted by: Bruce at October 23, 2016 09:14 PM (nIUnC)

55 Ooooh we have plans to disassemble, clean and reassemble my gun this week. Then I need to go shoot it. I keep talking about it but dammit I've been so slammed at work I haven't had a chance to get to the range.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 09:14 PM (+eR2D)

56 I have a couple of those stainless GP-100s. Put a Crimson Trace grip on one for a home gun for the wife to augment her 870. The other makes a great truck gun where it permanently lives. I love them because they are solid and need zero maintenance day to day week to week. I take them and wipe them down once a year or after each time at the range. At $600 each still under the price of that Smith. I like all the snake guns but these are provide the capability I need.

Posted by: Grandma180a at October 23, 2016 09:15 PM (9M7aS)

57 And I love the smell of Hoppes No. 9. They should make a cologne for men out of it. *swoon*


(I also keep saying they should make a perfume for women that smells like smoked brisket. We'd be fighting men off left and right.)

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 09:16 PM (+eR2D)

58 I'd love to get ahold of some swabs we use at the lab. Order em through Fisher Scientific.
The tip is some kind of a foam material not bothered by what they call Kelly solvent there. Used to clean up asphalt emulsion in Saybolt viscosity tester.
They'd press into hard to get to grooves and such in a receiver real nice.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 09:16 PM (HddOg)

59 I use boiling water and a funnel for corrosive ammo/bolt actions; Ballistol and WWII cancer cleaner as well.

For sentimentalities' sake I use breakfree for about everything else and on the bolt actions after the initial salt purge. Occasionally a copper or lead cleaner as appropriate.

Boresnakes more than rods these days. Clean more often than not after a range trip.

Rifle grease on the Garand, Carbine and most pistol slides.

Posted by: Keith at October 23, 2016 09:16 PM (USf3s)

60 g'early evenin', 'rons

I recently started using a bore-snake for my (recently acquired AR) & I'm pleased with how well it works

Finally have the chance to sit down & package up my postal match entry...man, I really miss wad-cutters. They sure made scoring a lot easier

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 23, 2016 09:17 PM (Zz+rA)

61 *Only when I'm cleaning my ears after a shower. And, yes I use Hoppes #9 in my ears to prevent rust.
Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 09:09 PM (nvMvs)*

Ohhhh, great idea!

Posted by: hillarybot2008 at October 23, 2016 09:17 PM (Bpc14)

62 General cleaning after shooting, pretty much the same as everyone else.
Hoppes.

For initial cleaning with a new purchase, I usually run the small parts through the ultrasonic after all the major gunk gets wiped off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 23, 2016 09:18 PM (J+eG2)

63 48 We need a lint-free Q-tip.


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Those would be perfect.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:07 PM (Wpz0e)

Telfa, maybe telfa dressings might work.

I was thinking of a pop-up dispenser for cleaning patches like the baby-wipes (but much smaller) but I never could figure out what to do about it. Does one call the CLP company and pitch an idea?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 09:12 PM (lPUaT)


Rem oil already has that. Pricey IMHO

Posted by: Drill Thrawl at October 23, 2016 09:19 PM (f75SB)

64 And Ballistol. It is a wonderful cleaner, it works on black powder and nitro foulling as well. You can also spill it in your range bag, and the bag will smell like spoiled milk for a week and then clear up forever.
Most of the rest of the cleaners will stay with you until you get another bag.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 09:19 PM (lPUaT)

65 Rifle grease on the Garand, Carbine and most pistol slides.
Posted by: Keith at October 23, 2016 09:16 PM (USf3s)

Yup....hot water to flush years of scrubbed up/scrubbed off gunk is key.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 09:20 PM (ej1L0)

66 And a little bit of Hoppes lubricant on the wooden stock. Wood loves oil. And no it doesn't make it slippery.

Posted by: Xnycpeasant at October 23, 2016 09:21 PM (szQGH)

67 Drudge has a link (in red) to a Podesta email about poll rigging that everyone needs to read.

I'm impressed by the work and thought that went into the 37-page guide. It's very good.

America's enemies are not JV in the least.

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2016 09:21 PM (29QcC)

68 And I read back and see I'm not the only one who thinks Hoppes should be a cologne. Hmmmmm

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 09:21 PM (+eR2D)

69 Good evening, y'all. Had some rounds in the .308 this weekend, but didn't fire a one. Never saw a freaking deer, lol.

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 23, 2016 09:22 PM (GUBah)

70 Will also use Kroil on guns inside and out that I'm not shooting for a while.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:22 PM (Sfs6o)

71 @69 They apparently saw you. Hope you at least made a side trip to the range.

Posted by: Xnycpeasant at October 23, 2016 09:23 PM (szQGH)

72 Couple of additions.
Dicks opened in the Houston area, one opening day deal was an H and R 12 guage for 125. Tried it already, and the best I can say is that it's an early AK - roughly made, rugged, simple, and works. Perfect home defense.
Second was winning a discount coupon on a GSG .22 lr "1911". Very cool.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 23, 2016 09:23 PM (C9pBZ)

73
As the holiday shopping season approaches, a reminder that evil state socialist Hillary buddies Amazon.com have an "Amazon Smile" program where, once you set it up and go thru the "smile.amazon.com" link before purchasing, 0.5% of your purchase goes to a charity you select.

Although there's lots of lefty causes in the program, there are also those on the side of The Light, including the NRA Foundation and other gun released groups:

http://tinyurl.com/hkhx6zd

Easy to set up, and worth doing just to piss off the right people.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 23, 2016 09:24 PM (kdS6q)

74 I think we're going to the Mesquite gun show on Saturday to take a gander at shotguns for home defense.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 09:24 PM (+eR2D)

75 Took my wife to the range thjs week to let her try out some pistols. She wants one for Christmas, just need to find something she likes. This is for concealed carry.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:26 PM (Bpc14)

76
I'm hardly an expert and not a regular gun cleaner, but what I do is this:

I oil the bore and all the moving parts with a light film, then wipe them all clean again with a dry clean cloth. I don't like too much oil because, I believe, it collects dirt (gunk).

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:27 PM (Wpz0e)

77 When you encounter a woman with a dab of Hoppes No. 9 behind each ear, you know you have encountered a lady who knows what she's about.

Should each popliteal region have one, it's game, set, and match.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 23, 2016 09:27 PM (OF/aZ)

78 The "real" rifle season doesn't even open here until 11/30 country singer.
That's okay. To dang warm to chill one down overnight so I can butcher the next day anyway.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 09:27 PM (HddOg)

79 Postal Match Update.

I don't want to spoil surprises.

Suffice to say that the turnout for the Match has already exceeded expectations, with more entries inbound, I hear.

Teh Horde has some damn good shooters.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 23, 2016 09:28 PM (v5iqM)

80 "We need a lint-free Q-tip."

Not technically lint free but much more tightly wound than drug store/ear cleaning Qtips.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hta7ur3

And if you break the wooden stick part they make a nice pointy and non scratchy tool to clean in small crevasses.

Posted by: Willy J. at October 23, 2016 09:28 PM (Ha50C)

81 I spent part of the weekend making some of my smaller, darker pistol sights stand out a bit. I bought a bunch of the fine tip industrial Bright-Mark paint pens and lightly scuffed the blade edge and put on a coat of white then a coat of bright orange or yellow. Thinner corrects any mistakes (at least when still wet, haven't tried it dry yet) and lets you try different color options.

About $3 per pen.

Was losing my sight against a dark target in poor light.

Posted by: Keith at October 23, 2016 09:29 PM (USf3s)

82
Easy to set up, and worth doing just to piss off the right people.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
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I'll have to look into thi, thanks.
Is Fisher House among the choices?

Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu! at October 23, 2016 09:30 PM (Ntnpb)

83 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 23, 2016 09:28 PM (v5iqM)

Jim, thanks for doing this.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:30 PM (Bpc14)

84 Gun cleaning video

https://youtu.be/_wT1xkRpCKk

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 09:33 PM (IqV8l)

85 They apparently saw you. Hope you at least made a side trip to the range.
Posted by: Xnycpeasant at October 23, 2016 09:23 PM (szQGH)




Nah, they just weren't moving on the part of the land where my stand is. Buddy about 300 yards away got one.

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 23, 2016 09:33 PM (GUBah)

86 For small calibers like .22 and .223, a bore snake is a very useful cleaning tool.

Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 23, 2016 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

87 Yep. Thanks Jim.

And the new target stocks are a lot better than the Magnas on the 15. Feels like a different gun!

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:34 PM (Sfs6o)

88 You folks do realize that Jim is actually NSA Bob and that all those targets are being forwarded to the home office, right?

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 09:34 PM (HddOg)

89 I've got a Ruger Police Service 6, which is I believe a forerunner of that GP100. Great little revolver, and pretty, too. My wife has small hands and we found that Ruger's pistols are consistently easy for her to hold, without being "miniaturized" such that I can't use them.

They make these pistols relatively heavy and thick, giving you an impression that they're durable. Other brands look rather delicate by contrast.

Posted by: joe at October 23, 2016 09:34 PM (dRWGW)

90 I don't do pistol/rifle; I have a couple of shotguns. Routine cleaning is Boresnake a couple of times, followed by Hoppes solvent, dry patches and finally a very light swab with Hoppes gun oil. Bolt gets a swab with solvent, dry wipe and light gun oil. The rest of the parts get lightly swabbed with gun oil. Reassemble, then wipe down the exterior (including stock and forearm) with gun oil to remove any residues, followed by a dry towel wipe.

About every third or fourth range day, I break out the brass brush, the toothbrush and the q-tips and give everything a thorough going over with solvent and brushes, followed by gun oil and dry wipe. Seems to work; neither shotgun shows more than the slightest traces of wear.

For the record: Mossberg Crown Bantam 20g w/ 22 1/2" barrel, Mossberg Maverick 88 12g w/ 18" barrel. Both based on the Model 500 receiver.

Posted by: Rusty Bill at October 23, 2016 09:35 PM (OweXm)

91 Pew. Pew pew pew pew pew.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 23, 2016 09:35 PM (4HySM)

92 Jim, how do us shotgunners participate in the postal match? Clay pigeon fragments?

Posted by: F.N.G. at October 23, 2016 09:38 PM (kiSdp)

93 Cabela's has Savage Mark II bolt-action .22's with a Bushnell 4 x 32 scope on sale for $125 after rebate. Seems like a great value to me.

http://tinyurl.com/z8opnts

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 09:39 PM (97XyN)

94 Saw a Mossberg .22lr rifle with a 30 round clip this week. It was a good looking rifle.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:41 PM (Bpc14)

95 And after reading the comments i now have some ideas on cleaning an old .22lr rifle i got from my FIL years ago.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:43 PM (Bpc14)

96 I think we're going to the Mesquite gun show on Saturday to take a gander at shotguns for home defense.


Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 09:24 PM (+eR2D)

I may be going as well, would be fun to cross paths with you guys again.

I bought a Maverick 88 12 gauge pump shotgun at Academy for $199 which seems like a decent home defense tool. Plus with that one you can switch out the barrel for a longer one or switch out the stock for a pistol grip, two things you can't always do with other shotguns.

Usually at the gun shows those Mavericks seem more more expensive. Just FYI.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 23, 2016 09:43 PM (D2vc1)

97
I'll have to look into thi, thanks. Is Fisher House among the choices?
Posted by: Chi -


When you set up Amazon Smile on your account, you can keyword search for specific charities.

Almost went with the "Eric Trump Foundation"....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 23, 2016 09:44 PM (kdS6q)

98 I picked up an M1a a few weeks ago at the gun show. I did have FOMO. It was barely fired. With a decent scope and the sadlak mount $900. I jumped on it right away. The 3 other guys that saw me later that wanted it, did miss out.

Posted by: Were screwed no matter what at October 23, 2016 09:44 PM (2CSqr)

99 "Saw a Mossberg .22lr rifle with a 30 round clip this week."

That's the 702 "Plinkster," I believe. You can catch them on sale at great prices. I haven't owned one, but some people swear by them.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 09:44 PM (97XyN)

100 I had a good time shooting though!

Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 08:53 PM (/O5Ax)

Send it to me and I will forward it!

nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 23, 2016 09:45 PM (Zu3d9)

101 Saw a Mossberg .22lr rifle with a 30 round clip this week. It was a good looking rifle.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:41 PM (Bpc14)

Have one of those also. Taking it out this week.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 23, 2016 09:46 PM (D2vc1)

102 My son, an infantry NCO at Ft. Carson in Colorado, says most of the men in his unit complain about cleaning weapons. He says he likes it because it makes him think of home, cleaning guns after a day at the range.

Insofar as gun cleaning tips are concerned, I strongly recommend G96 1055P Complete Triple-Action Gun Treatment. It's available on Amazon and I'm pretty sure most good gun shops. Read up on it, see if it suits your needs. Suits mine.

Oh, and yeah: I sent in my postal match results a few hours ago. Tokarev 4ever, babies.

Posted by: troyriser at October 23, 2016 09:48 PM (mbhHA)

103 -
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Jim, thanks for doing this.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:30 PM

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I procrastinated and missed this one, but dittos to tbodie's comment.


Posted by: irright at October 23, 2016 09:49 PM (vqzjE)

104 Old redneck tip- anything product made with the word "gun" in its name is sold for a magnitude more than its worth.

Gun Oil- don't buy it. 1 quart of Mobil 1 will last you a lifetime and do the same thing as "gun oil, rem oil etc.".

Gun grease- same deal- use Automotive moly grease in its place.

Patches- never buy them- Cut them out of old clothing too ratty to donate to goodwill.

All the money I save I use to buy more guns and ammo. heh.

For those of you that shoot corrosive ammo (a lot of old berdan primed military surplus) I hope you are using water as an initial cleaning step prior to the rest to remove the mercury salts. If you don't do that rust will become your newest best friend.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 09:50 PM (cCxiu)

105 Thanks, CBD. I managed to send it when I typed the address properly.

Posted by: no good deed at October 23, 2016 09:50 PM (/O5Ax)

106 Are you talking about a bore snake? Because I can recommend them.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 08:57 PM (kKHcp)

Yes....what's the advantage?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 23, 2016 09:52 PM (Zu3d9)

107 I borrowed a revolver to shoot when i went to the range tbis week. It seemed to have a tight spot at one area of cylinder rotation. I say this because trigger pull varied from decent to very hard.

Or was it me? Any suggestions for my friend regarding fixing this?

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:53 PM (Bpc14)

108 Drudge has a link (in red) to a Podesta email about poll rigging that everyone needs to read.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Wow. That needs a sidebar, at least.

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2016 09:54 PM (ngn8T)

109 Grumpy/Toby posted some pretty pics of his newest hottie.



Repost Grump928? Please?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 23, 2016 09:54 PM (zu88C)

110 104
For those of you that shoot corrosive ammo (a lot of old berdan primed military surplus) I hope you are using water as an initial cleaning step prior to the rest to remove the mercury salts. If you don't do that rust will become your newest best friend.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 09:50 PM (cCxiu)


Not arguing with you, but using water to prevent rust sounds counterintuitive to say the least.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

111 The bore snakes work great, especially for semi-auto barrels. I've found patches with Hoppe's on a slotted attachment does fine on hand guns, followed by a brush (especially chambers on revolvers), a toothbrush as needed, then clean patches and Rem-oil. Wipe down the outside with a silicone cloth. Takes longer to write this than do the cleaning. Even though I shoot mostly cast bullets I haven't had any leading for many years. BTW, Mrs. JTB likes the smell of Hoppe's. (Yes, I am blessed.)

However, I am meticulous, even OCD, about cleaning my black powder guns and cases if using BP cartridges. Water does the job followed by Sheath or some other protectant. I don't consider this a chore, just part of the BP shooting hobby. I use Renaissance Wax on the exteriors and a silicone grease on revolver arbors. In over thirty years of BP shooting, my guns show honest wear but no rust.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2016 09:56 PM (V+03K)

112 My grandpa brought back a last ditch 99 with the mum. It was in his attic for 40 years, after he died I took it. Still haven't shot it, it is so dirty but seems real tight.

Posted by: Fletch at October 23, 2016 09:57 PM (orDky)

113 It's possible, and fixing a revolver that has a mechanical issue usually means a trip to gunsmith unless your very handy.

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2016 09:57 PM (ngn8T)

114 Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 09:50 PM (cCxiu)
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Absolutely on the Mobil 1 - it's what I refill my oil bottles with. A quart will last 100 years.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 09:58 PM (Sfs6o)

115 Gah I am so depressed over this election stuff.

Somebody give me a pep talk!

Posted by: ALH at October 23, 2016 09:58 PM (Z56vq)

116 What weight Mobil 1 do you guys use? Does it matter?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 09:59 PM (97XyN)

117 I really need to order a bunch more ammo. Just to have around.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 23, 2016 09:59 PM (w+Jhj)

118 CBD, Thanks for the gun thread. Always fun to read and participate.

Looking forward to getting the postal match results whenever Jim can compile them.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2016 09:59 PM (V+03K)

119 NOOD ONT

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 23, 2016 10:00 PM (rJUlF)

120 Any Swiss rifle fans here? I ordered one of those 96/11 rifles when classic had them on sale but missed out on those and had to get one of the 279 ones. They did right by me.

Showed up and its all matching (of course), beautiful stock, came with a braided sling and a muzzle cap and looks great for a rifle well over 100 years old. I can't wait t shoot it...Serial number starts with a P. Its not one of the P marked / double digit year marked Private rifles that the service members took home when they finished their duty, it was made from the get go as a private rifle ..one of 4999 private series 96/11's made.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 10:00 PM (cCxiu)

121 the Mossberg 702 is a sweet little rifle

sometimes Walmart will have them for $100

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 23, 2016 10:01 PM (Zz+rA)

122 You folks do realize that Jim is actually NSA Bob and that all those targets are being forwarded to the home office, right?
Posted by: teej

Good, maybe fear will work wear reason and law fail

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2016 10:01 PM (/bVqk)

123 36 Same here. Hoppes, then CLP. On the Mosin, I squirt some heavy duty degunker down the barrel, then Hoppes/CLP.

Looking forward to the postal match results. Doubt I'll win but I don't think I embarrassed myself.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 23, 2016 10:01 PM (Kucy5)

124 Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:41 PM (Bpc14)

Bodie, does that Mossberg use a clip or a magazine ?

Posted by: F.N.G. at October 23, 2016 10:02 PM (kiSdp)

125 Teh Horde has some damn good shooters.
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too bad i'm not one of them...

D:

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2016 10:02 PM (i/VQi)

126 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 09:59 PM (97XyN)
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Not sure that it matters but I think the quart I have is 5W-30.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2016 10:03 PM (Sfs6o)

127 BTW, I keep a good supply of Q-Tips and pipe cleaners in my cleaning gear. Always some use for them.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2016 10:04 PM (V+03K)

128 You folks do realize that Jim is actually NSA Bob and that all those targets are being forwarded to the home office, right?

Posted by: teej

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then why did he sell us a Class III O/U shotgun w/o a tax stamp?


Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2016 10:04 PM (i/VQi)

129 "...The other makes a great truck gun where it
permanently lives....
Posted by: Grandma180a"

My dad always carried a handgun behind the seat of his truck. When he died from a heart attack while at the bar inside the local American Legion and we went to pick up the truck from the parking lot the next day, it was gone.

Still pisses me off 30 yrs later.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 23, 2016 10:05 PM (w+Jhj)

130 -
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95
And after reading the comments i now have some ideas on cleaning an old .22lr rifle i got from my FIL years ago.





Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 09:43 PM
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This advice may sound odd. If the gun is functional, don't clean (at least the bore) until you have shot it. I never clean a 22 lr bore unless it won't group the way I want. Some guns shoot better "dirty", some shoot better clean. This is true of all firearms, but (in my experience) especially 22 long rifle. If it won't group (using several types of ammo), by all means, scrub away.

Posted by: irright at October 23, 2016 10:05 PM (vqzjE)

131 Not arguing with you, but using water to prevent rust sounds counterintuitive to say the least.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

I don't know about using water but I make it a point to clean my Tokarev (the regular way) soon after use. I was taught if you're shooting Berdan primer milsurp ammo, don't leave your gun uncleaned for any extended period of time.

Posted by: troyriser at October 23, 2016 10:05 PM (mbhHA)

132 ONT is up.

Posted by: Sixkiller at October 23, 2016 10:07 PM (mFA3Z)

133 too bad i'm not one of them...

D:


#idiot

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2016 10:08 PM (i/VQi)

134 @ 100 rickl, I know it sounds crazy but you have to do that for berdan primed. It has mercury salts the oil and petroleum based cleaners won't remove.

I don't use the water if I'm not shooting berdan primed ammo.

Google berdan primed ammunition gun cleaning procedure for more info.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 10:08 PM (cCxiu)

135 Oh, I'd like to thank whichever one of you guys on the last gun thread told me about the CG 63's for sale at Sarco. I was able to snag one before they sold out. Between that and the no maker, B barrel MN 39 I ordered I am now forced to eat ramen noodles all month. heh.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 10:11 PM (cCxiu)

136 Still pisses me off 30 yrs later.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 23, 2016 10:05 PM (w+Jhj)

Oh, how I know. I bought a Ruger Mark II in the early 80's when they'd just come out. I was ridiculously broke at the time and this pistol was a huge purchase for me. It was stolen out of my closet, in a place I was sharing with my brother. I'm still pissed about it, especially since it had to have been taken by someone we knew.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 10:11 PM (97XyN)

137 i'm a Hoppe's guy from back in the 70's, but Shooter's Choice is some awesome stuff, especially if you are dealing with large amounts of carbon, say in a semi-auto shotgun...

it eats that shit right the fuck up, as well as old oil/grease, etc.

did my local FFL/gunsmith a solid, and came in to clean a couple of shotguns, as someone dumped their motorcycle, and couldn't w*rk.

bought a bottle on my way out the door, after using it to clean the guns in question. it ain't cheap, but a little dab'll do you, and i save the used residual in a sealed jar, so it goes far.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2016 10:12 PM (i/VQi)

138 Bodie, does that Mossberg use a clip or a magazine ?
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 23, 2016 10:02 PM (kiSdp)

Magazine.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 10:13 PM (Bpc14)

139 ditto on the thanks for the CG-63 tip: we got one too.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2016 10:14 PM (i/VQi)

140 I did not get up close to it, sounds like others here know the gun wrll.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 10:14 PM (Bpc14)

141 We bought my niece a savage on sale for $125 at Cabelas and it's quite accurate. A Boyd's stock and good trigger and you have a great little tack driver for not much money. Beware that the cheap Savage doesn't come with the Acutrigger, but there is a good aftermarket.

Posted by: Dax at October 23, 2016 10:15 PM (r0rZG)

142 The best initial cleaner for Berdan primed or other mercury-primered milsurp ammo.

And for blackpowder guns.

Boiling water with about 20% ammonia solution. No soap. Do NOT use Windex or such, 'cause of the soap.

The boiling water will flash-heat the metal enough to near-instantly vaporize the actual water, leaving corrosive-free, bare as bare can be metal.

Which you then need to conventionally clean and oil IMMEDIATELY, as the bare metal will attract moisture from the air, and will begin corroding, microscopically, within minutes, and visibly, within hours.

Take care of your guns, and they'll outlive you and your subsequent generations, for as long as that care is given, without fail.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 23, 2016 10:16 PM (v5iqM)

143 This advice may sound odd. If the gun is functional, don't clean (at least the bore) until you have shot it. I never clean a 22 lr bore unless it won't group the way I want. Some guns shoot better "dirty", some shoot better clean. This is true of all firearms, but (in my experience) especially 22 long rifle. If it won't group (using several types of ammo), by all means, scrub away.
Posted by: irright at October 23, 2016 10:05 PM (vqzjE)

Follow up question if i may:
There is visible dust / dirt in the barrel, would a bullet jam in the barrel be a risk?

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 10:17 PM (Bpc14)

144 Using a bore snake avoids cleaning from the muzzle and pushing crud in the chamber area.

I use a pinpoint oiler to deliver just a bit of lube at a time. Got mine from Lee Valley, IIRC. Very helpful.

When I run out of Rem-Oil, I'm switching to Mobil One. It apparently does the job and costs a billionth of 'gun' oils.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2016 10:21 PM (V+03K)

145
Not arguing with you, but using water to prevent rust sounds counterintuitive to say the least.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 09:56 PM (sdi6R)


The priming material is (usually in WWII ammo) Potassium Chlorate that creates salts when it burns. (the older WWI primers would use fulminate of Mercury which attacks the brass instead and has other issues, but the black powder residues leave potassium salts AND sulfuric acid)
The salts are best sloshed away with water. The next step is to get the water out of your action.
Many newer cleaners, like Hoppes, were supposed to get the salts out and dissolve the nitro powder without putting water into an action.
Still, the old manuals stated to use warm soapy water for cleaning.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 10:22 PM (lPUaT)

146 Capt Jim: I just sent my Postal Match target

Thank you very much for riding herd over this enterprise

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 23, 2016 10:23 PM (Zz+rA)

147 Pre WWI, sorry.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 10:24 PM (lPUaT)

148 If I'm using corrosive ammo or primers, I start the cleaning with water to get rid of the salt and soluble matter, followed by some dry patches. Then I clean with Hoppe's as usual.

I don't use boiling water but the hottest I can stand. It warms the barrel and helps the drying process.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2016 10:30 PM (V+03K)

149 @ 143, Tbodie,

It would have to be lots of dirt in the barrel to stop a bullet.

But I usually run a patch down before shooting since I put a light coat of oil on the guns to store them.

I buy a lot of old military surplus rifles. The bores are dark sometimes but the rifling is good. I have found if you clean them and then shoot them a lot the act of shooting seems to help clean the bore up dramatically.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 10:32 PM (cCxiu)

150 #102, because military white-glove arms room turn in standard cleaning is fucking retarded, takes forever, destroys protective finish on issue weapons, and shortens parts life. But because generations of NCOs and officers don't know any better, we still do it that way.

For an excellent look on the subject, look up an article by the late, great Patrick A. Rogers (USMC, NYPD) about his "Filthy 14" test rifle.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at October 23, 2016 10:35 PM (a94gW)

151 Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 23, 2016 10:32 PM (cCxiu)

Thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 10:36 PM (Bpc14)

152 And Jim, thanks for organizing the match, even if I am nine points behind Smokestack's 500-50x

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at October 23, 2016 10:36 PM (a94gW)

153 -
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Follow up question if i may:

There is visible dust / dirt in the barrel, would a bullet jam in the barrel be a risk?

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 10:17 PM
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You don't want a bore obstruction. Feel free to flush the bore out with some spray oil or other, or run a boresnake or rod/patch down there to get loose debris out. What I'm saying is don't go to town trying to clean a bore if it shoots well. Once you've removed the obvious dust/dirt and the bore appears to be a normal/rifled/unobstructed 22 barrel, shoot it before you scrub it.

Posted by: irright at October 23, 2016 10:38 PM (vqzjE)

154 I use frog lube, as little as possible.

Run a bore snake through the barrel a couple of times to get the big things, if any.

Then a rubber flanged jag.

Then a proper jag with a cleaning patch as a last step. When it comes out white and pristine and it has a mirror finish with a flashlight, my job is done.

I use wooden skewers and patches to inspect creases or sop up excess lube.

Posted by: LauderdaleVet at October 23, 2016 10:44 PM (TAY7g)

155 Jim, how do us shotgunners participate in the postal match? Clay pigeon fragments?
Posted by: F.N.G.
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I briefly considered borrowing BIL's Judge. With #3 Buck, triple score! I figured the judge would veto the Judge.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2016 10:45 PM (7H/2n)

156 I tend to prefer low-maintenance weapons.

I like my XD9 because it likes to run dirty. I've fired thousands of rounds between even cursory cleaning. The KelTec SU-16 also runs well dirty, as does my AK74 clone.

CLP Breakfree is my cleaner/lube of choice and I've never needed more than it, a few Q Tips and a boresnake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 23, 2016 10:51 PM (uLR9H)

157 As a shotgunner, I didn't even consider asking about participation in the postal match. In any case, there's rarely anything left of the target when I get done...

Posted by: Rusty Bill at October 23, 2016 10:53 PM (OweXm)

158
The bore snakes are super useful, but be sure to wash them regularly. Otherwise, you're just smearing dirty oil from the last cleaning down your bore. The one thing that I don't like about the bore snakes is that they're not marked with the caliber (at least not the ones I'm still using from years ago). It's easy to get the .30 cal and 9mm snakes mixed up if they're piled into the same kit.

I'm a big fan of Kroil. The penetrating action gets under the carbon rather nicely. But the smell is something else. DON'T use Kroil in your living room.

I use Slide Glide grease for my pistols, except for the BHP where I use Motorex 2000 Bike Grease. I'm using an extra power recoil spring on the BHP and the thicker Motorex works well with it, really softens the action. On the other hand, if I try to use the Motorex with my 1911, it slows down the slide so much that it'll induce stoppages.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2016 10:55 PM (LuZz8)

159
Oh, and for Q-tips, I use MG Chemicals swabs that I get from Fry's Electronics. They're about twice as long as regular medical Q-Tips, they have a wooden shaft for rigidity, and the cotton is wound EXTREMELY tight, to keep lint to a minimum.

http://frys.com/product/2000969?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2016 11:00 PM (LuZz8)

160 *I briefly considered borrowing BIL's Judge. With #3 Buck, triple score! I figured the judge would veto the Judge.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2016 10:45 PM (7H/2n)*

Ha. Range i went to had me sign a rules form that specifically forbade the Judge from being fired.

Posted by: tbodie at October 23, 2016 11:01 PM (Bpc14)

161 So I was in the back office of my local gunshop the other day filling out the paperwork to ask the BATF to bless my purchase of a suppressor.

It was like most back offices (or my own garage, for that matter) I imagine....everywhere I looked it was cluttered with this and that.

In the corner next to a file cabinet, I saw the buttstock of some rifle, and then right behind one of the desks were 2 ARs....one a carbine in FDE, and the other a black SBR with it's own can. On the other desk was a small pistol (prolly a .380) in a holster. All of them had magazines inserted.

And then on the top shelf above desk #2, I noticed the kicker.....a half-empty bottle of Macallan single malt.

Gawd, I love America (and Arizona), and I hate, hate, hate what Obama, Hillary and the libs have made of it.

On topic, I generally clean with CLP, but once or twice a year I break out the Hoppes #9 and then follow up with the CLP. I use a ton of patches, brass brushes (never stainless steel), toothpicks, Q-tips and the occasional Boresnake. Also, every year or so, when I'm cleaning something I've just shot, I dig into the safe and clean something that hasn't seen the light of day in a while.

Posted by: azlibertarian at October 23, 2016 11:16 PM (0SPyv)

162 I shot my M+P40 and Uberti .44 for the match. Had to disqualify the Tok because of a malfunction I couldn't correct. (Boring details later) Thinking about retiring this one for parts and buying a new-manufacture one.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 23, 2016 11:34 PM (Kucy5)

163 I'm a minimal cleaner, these days. I like to just run a snake through the barrel a couple of times and wipe the outside with a silicone rag. That's pretty much about it.

After a handful of range sessions (or maybe a bit more) I'll do a breakdown and clean.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 11:46 PM (zc3Db)

164 Anyone else use lots of Qtips when cleaning?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 09:02 PM (Wpz0e)


Some. For some channels. Mostly, I use cleaning pads on the ends of toothpicks.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 11:49 PM (zc3Db)

165 IllTemperedCur:

"The bore snakes are super useful, but be sure to wash them regularly. "

I put mine in a light canvas bag and throw them in the washer with my usual laundry. Then I spread them out on the kitchen counter and let them air dry. I do this about once a year...

"The one thing that I don't like about the bore snakes is that they're
not marked with the caliber (at least not the ones I'm still using from
years ago)."

There should be a brass ferrule at the end of the cord. The caliber should be stamped on that. If not, it's relatively easy to fabricate one. Check with your local gun shop for someone who does custom leather work. They should be able to do it relatively inexpensively. Probably just a matter or putting a snap on the Boresnake, then stamping or etching it.

Posted by: Rusty Bill at October 23, 2016 11:50 PM (OweXm)

166 I like the boresnakes on the long guns, plus a a good scrubbing with brushes and qtips on all of the doo hickies. Amazingly enough, I'm growing fond of my sonic cleaner for bolt and carrier parts. Pistols are rod and brushes, patches and, I like the rubber squeegee as a final pass. Missed going Postal...

Posted by: Ben Theredonethat at October 24, 2016 12:08 AM (jo6mH)

167 Who else instantly smelled Hoppes the moment they saw the photo? Everyone, that's who.

Posted by: MF at October 24, 2016 12:25 AM (qu75y)

168 157 I had the same problem with my tactical melon baller.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 24, 2016 02:15 AM (Kucy5)

169 Modern, reloadable ammo is available, at a "reasonable price.


Posted by: Bruce at October 23, 2016 09:14 PM (nIUnC)


I have a Type 30 Arisaka, 6.5x50. I bought some brass for it from PVRI when it was still available and I hand-load for it. Once upon a time I found some loaded ammo for it from Hornady that priced out to $1.50 a round...which is why I reload for it.

BTW, Hornady isn't available any more, but Norma is...for $2.20 a round...

Posted by: Deplorable GGE at October 24, 2016 02:16 AM (vbvxt)

170 Went to the DFW gun shot this weekend. Stick shock is an understatement. I might was well buy from a big box store because in many cases, the prices were better there than at the show on Saturday.

Posted by: lando's bfg at October 24, 2016 09:20 AM (oga8p)

171 I recently bought a bore camera and what I saw was shocking .... way too much copper in barrels I would have sworn were clean. I find JP bore compound and Kroll oil works wonders. Sweets 7.62 is another potent cleaner.

Posted by: Tireless at October 24, 2016 09:38 AM (p79pO)

172 Do those guns come with a trigger warning?

Posted by: Mark at October 24, 2016 11:05 AM (PalCb)

173 I get a big kick out of the Gent 'Hickok45' on Youtube

He has dozens if not hundreds of very straightforward weapons reviews

his cleaning stuff brand of choice is Ballistol

Posted by: Katfish at October 24, 2016 11:41 AM (eJTQx)

174 Hoppe's is the best...better than any cologne made. My wife always buys me a bottle for Christmas.

Posted by: rocdoctom at October 24, 2016 01:23 PM (nP2eK)

175 Frog Lube's solvent for my AR, and centerfire pistols.
Ballistol for my .22's and anything that I might use cartridges with corrosive primers in.

Posted by: The Osprey at October 26, 2016 11:50 AM (RGJ+E)

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