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This Is What Passes For Intellectual Discourse (We Are Existentially Screwed) [CBD]

On "The Daily Show," where hipster douchebag LIVs get ther political commentary, noted political philosopher Russell Simmons (Don't worry, I too had to look him up) opines on the huge problem of Christian terrorism.

Russell Simmons: 'Probably More Christians Are Radicalized' Than Muslims

Russell Simmons joined Trevor Noah on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" on Monday to talk about "Muslims Speak Out," a project he formed to deal with Islamophobia, which he called "the worst scourge we have."

He told Noah that people misunderstand the Muslim community and that "99.99-tenths of them are not radicalized, right?" And then he added the kicker: "Probably more Christians are radicalized."

Maybe I am naive, but I think that "radicalized" populations should display behavior that is...um...radical. Islam certainly checks that box, being responsible for terrorist acts which have claimed the lives of thousands of innocents, and being the drivers of most of the wars on the planet.

Christians? Help a Moron out. Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

As for Islamophobia: if your religion espouses the destruction of my culture and the murder of my coreligionists, you are damned straight going to get push-back from me. If you want to call it a phobia, then it is a rational phobia based on the very real, documented events that threaten my culture and my life.

But a more accurate term would be self-interest, or self-defense. But that's just me. I am a White, Western Jewish man. My opinion and life has zero worth in Simmons' twisted world.

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1 Jellied salad is king and casseroles is His Prophet!!!

Posted by: zombie martin luther at October 23, 2016 12:00 PM (FP3TD)

2 Key lime pie is divine!!!

Posted by: zombie martin luther at October 23, 2016 12:01 PM (FP3TD)

3 Heck, I may be first.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:01 PM (nvMvs)

4 The thing you need to understand before you read this story is that Russell Simmons is a left-wing flack idiot.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 23, 2016 12:01 PM (iLoHX)

5 That's what I get for reading the content and the links.

We're staying home from church today because wifey has a lot of leg pain from sciatica and can barely walk.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:02 PM (nvMvs)

6 Jell-O Salad is first!!!

I KEEEEEEEL YOU!!!

Posted by: zombie martin luther at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (FP3TD)

7 I dont know. My church is pretty radicalized. The Chili for Charity cookoff in a couple weeks could get ugly.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (Kge8X)

8 "Probably more Christians are radicalized."

He's talking about those whack-jobs that read the Bible. Freaks and radicals!

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2016 12:04 PM (7H/2n)

9 That and the "praying for your enemies" stuff. Whats that all about?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:05 PM (Kge8X)

10 The Chili for Charity cookoff in a couple weeks could get ugly.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (Kge8X)

Are there carrots in that chili?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 23, 2016 12:06 PM (Zu3d9)

11 We will take Islamic radicalism seriously when their terrorists start targeting politicians, journalists, professors and "public intellectuals."

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 23, 2016 12:06 PM (Oh/BE)

12 "If you want to call it a phobia, then it is a rational phobiayou don't even know the meaning of that word, because my response is based on
the very real, documented events that threaten my culture and my life.

Fix'd

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:07 PM (044Fx)

13 Even the "nice" Muslims - the "pleasant ambassadors" - will benefit from terrorism. It's all about conversion.

My college roommate's daughter called her a "Christian supremacist." She didn't say it in rancor, just stating it as a fact.

Well, if you believe that Christianity is the one true religion, might as well append a word that is solidly linked with "white supremacist." Right?

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at October 23, 2016 12:07 PM (BcNLK)

14 The ones who believe in Sharia-supremacy are incompatible with western societies and republics.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:08 PM (ozZau)

15 Thankfully only political junkies know about these two scrunts. Eff them and their horse.

Posted by: torabora at October 23, 2016 12:08 PM (MBvIS)

16 Did they bring up the Crusades? They always bring up the Crusades like it happened yesterday, that was hundreds of years ago but the Crusades. Their was a Washington Post article about how Islam had to called on to deal with Christian fanatics, it was about the Crusades. Yet Islam still kills people for witchcraft, adulatory and chops hands off. Yet those damn Christians

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 23, 2016 12:08 PM (dKiJG)

17 Who cares what Russell Simmons says? He's an idiot looking for publicity.

This morning, I read some recent excrescence from the mouth(s?) of Michael Moore. The frantic, spastic attempts to say something naughty and thereby get some publicity were nauseating, but irrelevant.

Posted by: pep at October 23, 2016 12:09 PM (LAe3v)

18 Russell Simmons is a Fing Moron

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 12:09 PM (y3aQB)

19 Russell Simmons is simply a Communist propagandist. It's no more complex than that.

Posted by: Rockjaw McGainz at October 23, 2016 12:10 PM (xZKFb)

20 Just where are all of these radicalized Christians the left keeps talking about? Must be an invisible army.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 12:10 PM (IqV8l)

21 Yes, because there are huge armies of radical Christians all over the world, attacking cities, killing thousands of people, and oppressing the rest. Didn't you know?

Posted by: GunsGardensandYarn at October 23, 2016 12:10 PM (/K1AJ)

22 "Probably" = I don't know and can't be arsed to check.

Posted by: Djmears at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM (WFjXF)

23 21
Yes, because there are huge armies of radical Christians all over the
world, attacking cities, killing thousands of people, and oppressing the
rest. Didn't you know?


Their armies are massing at Cracker Barrels as we speak.

Posted by: pep at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM (LAe3v)

24 Always just knew there was something Radical about mixing carrots with Lime Jell-o...

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM (044Fx)

25 Damn Christians, always threatening to bomb and terrorize.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her Deplorable 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM (+eR2D)

26

Christians? Help a Moron out. Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

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Ten years ago I would have said the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, but after two social justice, elevate women at all costs, ain't obama great pastors in a row, with the entire leadership of the congregation agreeing with the second that we should ignore the Bible when it disagrees with our culture, it's pretty clear LCMS is on the path to rainbow flag waving oblivion along with everyone else.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 12:12 PM (3Liv/)

27
Their armies are massing at Cracker Barrels as we speak.
Posted by: pep at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM


Where else would crackers congregate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 12:12 PM (IqV8l)

28 We're staying home from church today because wifey has a lot of leg pain from sciatica and can barely walk.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:02 PM (nvMvs)

The morons on Monday's GAINZZZ thread mentioned a foam roller to me which really helped me out.

There was also a yoga move that seemed to help.me.

1.Lay flat on the ground. One knee bent.2. Place the foot / ankle of the other leg on the bent knee.3. Place a rubber ball under the leg. Roll it around until you find a tender spot. Breathe. Press down if you can.

Over a few days, this really helps. You can also pull up videos on YouTube which might help.

All the best to you and your wife.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 23, 2016 12:13 PM (2L42J)

29 Yes, radical Christian bakers and florists are the tip of the iceberg. Our radical conservative values are ruining this country.

Posted by: Ben Theredonethat at October 23, 2016 12:14 PM (jo6mH)

30 Radical Christians? You mean the ones that pray the entire rosary instead of just one decade?

Posted by: Fizz at October 23, 2016 12:16 PM (GX56c)

31 I don't think we're existentially screwed. Just now...


We've had Western governments coddling entire generations of kids, throwing money at every problem they may have to create their utopia. But the money has almost run out.


Western society is about to get a brutal lesson in cause an effect. Don't work....go hungry. Attack us....pay consequences. The learning curve may seem a little steep for today's youth, but Islam doesn't stand a chance once the West has nothing to lose and the gloves come off.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 23, 2016 12:18 PM (2L42J)

32 Yes, the internet is awash with videos of christians beheading people while reciting the Lord's Prayer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:18 PM (kTF2Z)

33
Widely rumored closeted gay TM clothing brand thinks Muslims want to be his pal.

Hop a plane to Mosul and try out your theory.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 23, 2016 12:18 PM (kdS6q)

34 Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:02 PM (nvMvs) I have Sciatica from my screwed up back, I know that ridiculous pain all too well! good luck to her

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 12:19 PM (y3aQB)

35 He's absolutely right. Ever heard of the Amish? The Mennonites? They're centered in Lancaster County, PA.

The problem with Islam is that it's more devout believers act like Muhammad -- a murderous sociopath bent on subjecting everyone to his will -- while the more extreme Christians act like Jesus, who blessed the meek, told his followers to focus on the spiritual world over the political world and on a personal level practiced non-resistance.

Posted by: Mercy Vetsel at October 23, 2016 12:19 PM (sLn7r)

36 There should be a law against stupid people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:21 PM (K63aO)

37 My pagan, lefty friend admitted that though she disagrees with Christian theology and philosophy (not that she's bothered to study it beyond learning icky pro-life), she's deeply touched by their charity and willingness to spend their own money on the less fortunate.

So the Christian radicals are brainwashing the masses with resale shops, soup kitchens, and free dental work! They are diverting them from the true good of government agencies!11!!!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 23, 2016 12:21 PM (UwMHj)

38 Of course the irony that this idiot is able to form such a group because he lives in this country formed by Judeo-Christian values, and not in one formed by sharia law, escapes him, I have no doubt.

On his Yankees hat, I shall not opine.



Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:21 PM (uHcnA)

39 I have noticed Wednesday night bingo has become more intense: B-17....B-17!!!!...I'll kill you all!!!!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 12:22 PM (n3MnG)

40 Cable networks really don't "broad"cast, they narrow cast for a select audience. Comedy Central is no different, and while its political bias is more overt than some other channels, the result is the same...

Fucking idiot hosts bring on Fucking Idiot guests to tell some stupid fucking jokes at America's expense in a quest to tell their stupid fucking idiot viewers what to think...uhh, make that believe.

The words vomited out of their dickholes need not have any basis in reality, and often don't, because the whole point is to create a false narrative that their intellectually retarded audience can feel good about.

/rant off

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 23, 2016 12:23 PM (kKHcp)

41 The local Leftoids are losing their marbles.

Yesterday, a wild-haired fellow, wearing a "I voted early" sticker, about 55, barges into a checkout line and announces out of the blue "If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"

He must have been amongst hoi polloi at the poll site. Sharing available oxygen with Trump supporters! Horrors!

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:23 PM (JBggj)

42 20 "Just where are all of these radicalized Christians the left keeps talking about? Must be an invisible army."

The first rule of Invisible Christian Army is you don't talk about Invisible Christian Army, capice?

Posted by: Papa Guido at October 23, 2016 12:23 PM (LeUrG)

43 There was a time I hated only some people. Now I hate most people. See how I have matured?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:23 PM (K63aO)

44 The first rule of Invisible Christian Army is you don't talk about Invisible Christian Army, capice?
Posted by: Papa Guido at October 23, 2016 12:23 PM (LeUrG)

Or about the Jewish Accountants and Supply Officers that help run it. Shoosh!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:24 PM (K63aO)

45 "If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"

Heh. Did you offer to help him pack?

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (044Fx)

46 Yesterday, a wild-haired fellow, wearing a "I voted early" sticker, about 55, barges into a checkout line and announces out of the blue "If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"
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Another reason to hope Trump wins then. I hope this guy does move to Belgium, preferably a place where there is a large Muslim contingent.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (uHcnA)

47 Instead of circles, our pancakes are now the shapes of scimitars, and decapitated heads...which are already round.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (n3MnG)

48 Duke Lowell, in my area, elderly women strangle the infidels with rosaries. You know how those radicals split along ethnic lines and bitterly cling to their barbaric customs!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (UwMHj)

49 Or about the Jewish Accountants and Supply Officers that help run it. Shoosh!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:24 PM (K63aO)
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Let us not forget the Jewish dentists who help run the Navy!

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:26 PM (uHcnA)

50 Yesterday, a wild-haired fellow, wearing a "I voted early" sticker, about 55, barges into a checkout line and announces out of the blue "If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"
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I just got home from The West Point Commissary, and that was NOT the sentiment up there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:26 PM (K63aO)

51 Let us not forget the Jewish dentists who help run the Navy!

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:26 PM (uHcnA)


Well we have a saying: "If the Dentist ain't happy, Ain't Nobody Happy!"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:27 PM (K63aO)

52 If worse comes to worst, just tell the Belgians you're German and they'll let you take over the country.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 12:27 PM (n3MnG)

53 Heh. Did you offer to help him pack?
========

No. The funny thing was, his internet was out and he was checking to see if any other place in area was still up. I'm sure he had something to say, but I didn't want to hear it.

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:28 PM (JBggj)

54 Help Morons!
I use an Iphone- usually to scan the news and see commentary excellence from the Horde. As of late, however, my Iphone begins to send me to weird sites automatically. I get a popup that says I have won something or, like I said, my browser is redirected to obvious spam sites run by the Russkies or whoever. This only seems to happen when I log onto AOS and Drudge using Safari browser using my Iphone. Anyone else experiencing this? I have emptied my cache and deleted browsing history to no avail...

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 23, 2016 12:29 PM (Dt8YH)

55 there seems to be a constant "our people are evil that's why they must be controlled" thing going... stupid isn't good enough... evil is what they need.

Posted by: Former Mass Resident at October 23, 2016 12:29 PM (4+yTC)

56 That Christian's are (I would not use radicalized) commited to their religion no more or less than Muzzies. The difference is Muzzies are taught by the Koran to lie, cheat and kill non believers. Christians are taught to love and protect life.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:30 PM (sWbjH)

57 Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 23, 2016 12:29 PM (Dt8YH)

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Turn off JavaScript.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:30 PM (kTF2Z)

58 54 Yeah,happens to me periodically.

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2016 12:30 PM (fA75F)

59 Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:28 PM

Understood.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:30 PM (044Fx)

60 Good G-D The Rams suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:31 PM (K63aO)

61 Secret Squirrel, I have the exact same problem every once in a while. Hadn't happened for a long time and then happened a couple of times today and yesterday. If I close the window, then open the website again, it opens fine.

I'm sure I should be doing something else, but I'm not.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:31 PM (uHcnA)

62 This insanity that "Christianity is just as bad!" is just the usual leftist tactic of moral equivalence.

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2016 12:33 PM (fA75F)

63 Christian Radicalism is about telling people that the sinful actions they take will have consequences both in this world and the next, and though we love them for being our brothers and sisters, we will neither condone, give cover and credence or participate in their actions.

This hateful rhetoric is equal to throwing homosexuals off of buildings and beating raped women to death with chunks of concrete, and is safer to scream about.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 12:33 PM (lPUaT)

64 Duke Lowell, in my area, elderly women strangle the infidels with rosaries. You know how those radicals split along ethnic lines and bitterly cling to their barbaric customs!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (UwMHj)
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I always have a rosary in my purse.

Just in case.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:34 PM (uHcnA)

65 Eleanor Roosevelt s mistress died heartbroken and alone

NY POST

Typical of how Lefties treat each other after they are done using them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:34 PM (K63aO)

66 "Christianity is just as bad!"

They keep saying that, but then only keep bagging on Christianity, never bagging on is-lame... huh. Funny that.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:35 PM (044Fx)

67 Funny how the fact that the crusades were in response to about three centuries of Muslim conquest never comes up.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)

68 I should have added Jewish law as well but as Iam not a Jew didn't right off. I would add almost all I know of Jewish law I learned from listening to Dennis Prager for years.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (sWbjH)

69 57


Turn off JavaScript.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:30 PM (kTF2Z)

Duke- that worked like a charm! Thanks man.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (Dt8YH)

70 "Where is current Christian radicalism centered?"

Rome. Where else? They're behind everything, even the Jooz (fooled you on that one.) A bastardization of the faith, with their systematic thought and severely backward gender relations.

Posted by: George LeS at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (+TcCF)

71 Sure the muslims,burn,bomb,stab,shoot,defenestrate and behead for their religion but those awful Xhristians insist that marriage is between a man and a woman!

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (fA75F)

72 BTW, anyone notice that Political Hat is unavailable?

Posted by: George LeS at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (+TcCF)

73 I always have a rosary in my purse.



Just in case.

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Yeah, watch out for the gals holding a chaplet with the shiga wire strings.

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (JBggj)

74 18 Russell Simmons is a Fing Moron
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 12:09 PM (y3aQB)


And not in the good sense.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

75
"If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"

And become a detective.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (IqV8l)

76 Posted by: Secret Squirrel at October 23, 2016 12:36 PM (Dt8YH)

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You're welcome

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:38 PM (kTF2Z)

77 Richard's brother from another mother.

Posted by: Infidel at October 23, 2016 12:38 PM (kjwd/)

78 On YouTube there is a video of the map of Europe and the Middle East showing Muslum attacks and European battles fighting back but don't know how one can find it.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:38 PM (sWbjH)

79 "99.99-tenths of them are not radicalized, right?" And then he added the kicker: "Probably more Christians are radicalized."

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More evidnce for my theorem that in a society in which lies are accepted, truth is prohibited.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 23, 2016 12:38 PM (Nwg0u)

80 Russell Simmons is a far left radical new age turd out of NYC. He doesn't know shit from shoe polish and isn't very well known out of Queens or Harlem.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 12:38 PM (mpXpK)

81 I thought to myself "Why Belgium?"

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:39 PM (JBggj)

82 81 Good fries and lots of friendly muslims!

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2016 12:40 PM (fA75F)

83 Russell Simmons is a far left radical new age turd
out of NYC. He doesn't know shit from shoe polish and isn't very well
known out of Queens or Harlem.


Posted by: Vic

Russell looks like a turtle. I would rather listen to Richard Simmons

Posted by: Bruce at October 23, 2016 12:41 PM (8ikIW)

84 Methos, there's still a steadfast core within the LCMS. I can give you some names and websites if you're interested.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 12:42 PM (FQKBL)

85 Christians? Help a Moron out. Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

Well it depends on your foundation.

For the radical left, your average Democrat, anyone to the right of Michael Moore is radicalized. People who dare to think men don't belong in a girl's locker room: radicals. People that hold the outrageous position babies should be protected, not murdered: radicals. People that think two men can get married no more than a woman and a kitchen table: radicalized.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)

86 The Daily Show is where intellectual midgets go to bark and clap like retarded seals. Prolly shoulda included a trigger warning. Ya know, in case there are any retarded seals lurking.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (kTF2Z)

87 Since FAB supporters and herself are calling all us Trump Supporters and right wingers deplorables, terrorists and worse, then we have absolutely not responsibility to recognize the election results as legal if she wins, right? I mean fair is fair right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (K63aO)

88 I thought to myself "Why Belgium?"

When I read or hear the "If _____, I'm moving to _____." I always think: "Why wait?"

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (044Fx)

89 Duke Lowell, in my area, elderly women strangle the infidels with rosaries. You know how those radicals split along ethnic lines and bitterly cling to their barbaric customs!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 23, 2016 12:25 PM (UwMHj)


Assault rosaries should contain no more than 10 beads.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (z1o2c)

90 Well, I went to a family birthday party yesterday and was ganged up on by the Dems in the family, who spent a good hour mocking Trump but shrugged off every single criticism I made of Hillary. The only thing that redeemed the occasion was holding my new grand-nephew for the first time (his dad was silent during the political talk. He's a fireman and I suspect, a Trump voter, but he chose not to be ridiculed and mocked. The baby is beautiful - a little 5 lb. peanut.)

It's maddening to be around a bunch of middle class white people - the very people the Dems despise - who are kidding themselves that they are somehow superior to the rednecks voting for Trump and completely brainwashed by the media.

They are fine to be around until the subject of politics comes up (and they are always the ones who bring it up). Then I find myself almost hating them.

When I drove away last evening I found myself praying for a Trump miracle, just because I want to sit there and listen to them bitch and moan and emote at Thanksgiving dinner while I sit there quietly and smile to to myself.

Honestly, it's a dreadful thing to want people you love to suffer and go into shock on election night, but I've had to listen to so much ill-informed idiocy over the past 8 years I'd like the tables turned for a change.

Except for one doctor at work, this is the ONLY place I have where I can talk politics with like-minded people.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (P8951)

91 When I read or hear the "If _____, I'm moving to _____." I always think: "Why wait?"

Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (044Fx)



I like to happily chirp, "I've got some boxes you can use."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (SRKgf)

92 Me too. I clear the cache and/or shut it down and start it up again.

Posted by: Tuna at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (JSovD)

93 People that think two men can get married no more than a woman and a kitchen table: radicalized.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)
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Now, that's going a little overboard. If I'm going to marry anything in my kitchen, it would be the oven.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (uHcnA)

94 What the left calls "Christian radicalism" is centered in the belief that we owe obedience to God, and not the state when the state opposes God's laws.

This is a hard thing, because Jesus said that his "kingdom is not of this world." Many of his followers wanted him to overthrow the Roman empire's control of Israel and abandoned him when he refused to do so. Jesus didn't come the first time to establish political power.

Christian scriptures go further and proclaim this in several passages, like Romans 13:1-7 (NIV):

1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

-Romans 13:1-7

We "radical Christians" need to obey the government in every way except when it conflicts with God's law. It doesn't matter whether we live under capitalism or communism: the Christian scriptures are clear.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 12:46 PM (nvMvs)

95 It's not a phobia. Not at all.
It's common sense based on awareness. And I've lived in the Middle East for years.

Here's a deal for ya Simmons. Whatever happens to my family at the hands of Islamists, I get to visit upon your family. Fair enough?

In fact that's a great deal to offer up to all politicians vis-a-vis any illegal immigrant.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 23, 2016 12:47 PM (0tfLf)

96 Wasn't Russell Whatshisname part of the Run-DMC rap due/trio back in the 80s? Producer I think?

He has been hating whitey for a long time. Being a radicalized man of color does that to you ya know...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 12:48 PM (ej1L0)

97 Donna&&&, in all seriousness, pray for them. Pray that their hearts and minds will see the truth. It's the only thing you can do for them, and it will do you good too.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:48 PM (uHcnA)

98 Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (P8951)


I find that many of the people for whom I have the greatest respect intellectually - before I know their politics - turn out to be conservative.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 12:48 PM (SRKgf)

99 Ok the video wasnt hard to find.

Look up - How many times Muslims invaded Europe vs European invaded Muslim countries

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:50 PM (sWbjH)

100 When I read or hear the "If _____, I'm moving to _____." I always think: "Why wait?"
Posted by: JQ Flyover at October 23, 2016 12:44 PM (044Fx)
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I always think, why don't these people ever follow through?

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:50 PM (uHcnA)

101 Western society is about to get a brutal lesson in cause an effect. Don't work....go hungry. Attack us....pay consequences. The learning curve may seem a little steep for today's youth, but Islam doesn't stand a chance once the West has nothing to lose and the gloves come off.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 23, 2016 12:18 PM (2L42J)

Thanks for posting this. I believe it's true.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 12:51 PM (LQwOo)

102 I aim to get radicalized.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 12:51 PM (97XyN)

103 Now, that's going a little overboard. If I'm going to marry anything in my kitchen, it would be the oven.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:45 PM (uHcnA)


WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO MUCH AFTER WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR YOU?

Posted by: The Toster at October 23, 2016 12:51 PM (lPUaT)

104 Posted by: The Toster at October 23, 2016 12:51 PM (lPUaT)

Typo = sock fail. Should have used 'The Salad Spinner'.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 12:53 PM (z1o2c)

105 CBD is a dude?

Posted by: garrett at October 23, 2016 12:53 PM (Bi9lc)

106 Donna its probably best not to get into politics with family gatherings. My mother for years does her best to squelch it. Dennis Prager advises the same.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (sWbjH)

107 why oh why can't I spell "toaster"

No toaster love here, I guarantee you that.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (lPUaT)

108 OT. On i-phone, I am getting redirects from the AOSHQ site. Very aggressive redirects -- make the site unusable. (I'm not using i-phone for this message.) It's happening on other conservative sites as well. Sabotage?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (/f6Nd)

109 WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO MUCH AFTER WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR YOU?
Posted by: The Toster at October 23, 2016 12:51 PM (lPUaT)
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Because I'm prejudiced against appliances that YELL AT ME and CAN'T SPELL THEIR OWN NAME.



Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (uHcnA)

110 Also, I've gone low-carb.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:55 PM (uHcnA)

111 Still in a self imposed funk after OSU blowing chunks last night. Need to get out, go to the community rec. center and exercise. It cheers me up because I can change one of the bank of wide screens from the inevitable CNN/MSNBC drivel to HTV. I'm cursed to live in the most dependablely libtard suburb of Columbus and every one of them seems to hit the gym the same time I do.

Posted by: Tuna at October 23, 2016 12:55 PM (JSovD)

112 According to Iowahawk, Christian radicalism is centered in the Ishpeming Triangle where radical Lutherans practice a very hard core version of Lombardi-ism complete with casseroles and jello molds on Packer Football Sundays.

Posted by: dc at October 23, 2016 12:55 PM (oY/R7)

113 #90

It's funny. So many Clinton supporters I've met have gone from smug to high anxiety. Some believe the wild-ass +12 Clinton polls (like today's ABC laugher) and are euphoric. The thing is, I work in retail and I (usually) listen to what people say and I have the strong impression that Trump's support is far stronger than the conventional wisdom indicates.

What is driving the Lefties nuts is that Trump's support is not collapsing. Trump is in the news every day, while Hillary is MIA. And the American people are looking at the monolithic MSM and more than a few voters don't like that one damn bit.

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:56 PM (JBggj)

114 Because I'm prejudiced against appliances that YELL AT ME and CAN'T SPELL THEIR OWN NAME.
Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (uHcnA)

Must have went to a government school....

Must be a Government School Toaster.

Sounds like a cool band name.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 12:57 PM (ej1L0)

115 There are Christians who are pretty radical, but they are extremely rare and scattered.

-Theonomist radicals, who believe the government should be overthrown and replaced with Old Testament law (mostly, its more complicated than that).

-Social Gospel radicals, who replace God's word with Marx and Mao.

-Fundamentalist radicals, who believe women should not be in the work place, the Bible should be taught in schools, and no non-protestant religion should be allowed in America.

-Patriotic radicals, who believe America more than the Bible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 12:57 PM (39g3+)

116 Didn't Hillary Clinton laugh when Trump mentioned homosexuals being tossed from roof tops? She's pretty radical, but I'm sure if she's a Christian or a Satanist.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (cyoBN)

117 Miss the old football threads.

Sam Bradford is returning to Philadelphia.
Go Birds!

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (sWbjH)

118 112
What would we do without Iowahawk?. Would love to actually see him rebutting these a**holes live sometime. Of course the sarcasm would fly over their heads but still it would be fun to watch him take them apart.

Posted by: Tuna at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (JSovD)

119 I read where a British couple adopted a 12 year old afghan boy.
Turned out that he was a trained 21 year old taliban terrorist.

It remains unclear if the parents were Christian.

Posted by: Drider at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (6Xbsz)

120 "Miss the old football threads. "

I miss football too. Too bad NFL football has became about everything BUT football...

Posted by: navybrat at October 23, 2016 12:59 PM (w7KSn)

121 I dont know. My church is pretty radicalized. The Chili for Charity cookoff in a couple weeks could get ugly.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (Kge8X)

And about that silent auction at St. Ann's...There better not be any pictures of Muhammad drawn next to the bids or there'll be trouble.

Posted by: Achmed Loves Goats at October 23, 2016 01:00 PM (joFoi)

122 We're, you know, backwards.

Posted by: teh Wind at October 23, 2016 01:00 PM (ok+nr)

123 Tamerlane spread Islam by killing an estimated 5% of the world's population. But let's talk about the Crusades (1-3 million deaths total over 200 years) and Inquisition (3,000 deaths over 450 years). I guess these idiots thought that when Jesus said "Turn the other cheek," he meant to that violently. These jack-wagons only get a public vehicle for their stupidity because they are the court jesters in the PC war on all that is good and true.

Posted by: IanDeal at October 23, 2016 01:00 PM (teGBX)

124 err... but I'm NOT sure if she's a Christian or a Satanist.

yikes.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 01:00 PM (cyoBN)

125
Yesterday, a wild-haired fellow, wearing a "I voted early" sticker, about 55, barges into a checkout line and announces out of the blue "If Donald Trump is elected, I'm moving to Belgium!"


The proper response was, "Your fellow surrender monkeys there will welcome you with open arms."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2016 01:00 PM (BK3ZS)

126 -Patriotic radicals, who believe America more than the Bible.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 12:57 PM (39g3+)

George Washington is the second coming?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:01 PM (Om16U)

127 " if she's a Christian or a Satanist."

I'm quite sure which one she is.

John 8, 44

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 23, 2016 01:01 PM (Z8DIA)

128 Finally! It may have taken since 9-11, but there IS another celebrity who has seen the light.

Posted by: Rosie O-Donuts at October 23, 2016 01:01 PM (joFoi)

129 Christianity hasn't always been the peaceful, quiescent religion it is now. As it has in the past, it can become...something else.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 23, 2016 01:01 PM (97XyN)

130 To a globalist; Christians (and Jews, but they had a reason for it) built and used the first atomic weapon; thus the ultimate social sin. Therefore Christians are forever the radicals for going there.

All would have been forgiven had we openly given the atomic weapon to the Soviets and let them use it. We didn't, so we will always be on a certain side of history.

Trust me on this.

Posted by: Leland at October 23, 2016 01:01 PM (Sj3xp)

131 Lancaster is the new Mosul.

Posted by: teh Wind at October 23, 2016 01:02 PM (ok+nr)

132 Bluebell, fortunately for the infidels, you Rosary Radicals not only tip them off with the Sign of the Cross, but while you're saying the Creed, the quick ones make their getaway.

The radical Muslims have you beat.

"Allah is great!" Stabby, stabby. Boom!

"I believe in God the Father..." (a minute passes) "Everyone into the van! Maybe we can catch up to them by the second Glorious Mystery!"

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 23, 2016 01:02 PM (UwMHj)

133 110 Also, I've gone low-carb.
Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 12:55 PM (uHcnA)

Good luck!!!

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:02 PM (Om16U)

134 121 I dont know. My church is pretty radicalized. The Chili for Charity cookoff in a couple weeks could get ugly.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (Kge8X)

Damn. When and where? Should we come armed with red peppers and tomato sauce?

Posted by: Tuna at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (JSovD)

135 What keeps my heart up is the thought of the tears of these people when Trump wins.

Tears. Delicious tears.

Posted by: blaster at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (ACqhm)

136 Actually, here's a LCMS video that talks about, among other things, the relationship of Christians with other religions: Come and See the Violence Inherant in the Sticker. Referring to that COEXHIST one.

https://youtu.be/YHQ_NBqu4ao

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (FQKBL)

137 My leftist brother-in-law tried to alibi Mohammadans when I told him that they were over-represented in mass casualty attacks. He tried the specious "but Christians kill more" argument by claiming that Jihadis are only involved in 40% of the mass casualty attacks in the U.S.

He didn't like it when I refuted his argument with math: if the U.S. Mohammadan population is 2% then the normalized Mass-Casualty Attack Index for Mohammadans would be 20 (40% attacks divided by 2% population) while the Index for everybody else would be 1.63 (60% attacks divided by 98% population) in the U.S.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (5Yee7)

138 She's pretty radical, but I'm sure if she's a Christian or a Satanist.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (cyoBN)


I'm pretty sure Hillarity! is the goddess of her own religion. After all, she controls the collection plate.

Thou shalt not blaspheme the Hillarity! (under penalty of Arkancide).

Thou shalt have no other gods before the Hillarity! (under penalty of Arkancide).

Thou shalt not bear false witness against the Hillarty! (under penalty of Arkancide).

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (z1o2c)

139 Deus vult.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (Om16U)

140 Do the Morons remember how quite suburban neighborhoods used to be before some son of Satan invented the leaf blower? To me that is the most useless yard tool ever invented. All it does is move leaves and trash from one part of the yard to another.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (mpXpK)

141
108 OT. On i-phone, I am getting redirects from the AOSHQ site. Very aggressive redirects -- make the site unusable. (I'm not using i-phone for this message.) It's happening on other conservative sites as well. Sabotage?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (/f6Nd)
It has happened to me and lately, it's impossible to read WeaselZippers on my iphone for the same reason. I also just was on scott Adams blog and the page blacked out then automatically redirected me to the previous site I was reading.

Do I think it could be leftist sabotage?
Yes.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (oQQwD)

142 Yes, because there are huge armies of radical Christians all over the
world, attacking cities, killing thousands of people, and oppressing the
rest. Didn't you know?

Their armies are massing at Cracker Barrels as we speak.
Posted by: pep at October 23, 2016 12:11 PM (LAe3v)

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LOL

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at October 23, 2016 01:05 PM (ogaHx)

143 @137 I was told there would be no math

Posted by: blaster at October 23, 2016 01:05 PM (ACqhm)

144 Turn off JavaScript on the iPhone before reading the hq

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:07 PM (Om16U)

145 106 Donna its probably best not to get into politics with family gatherings. My mother for years does her best to squelch it. Dennis Prager advises the same.
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (sWbjH)

Oh, I try to - but they always bring it up. It's really hard to keep my mouth shut listening to nonstop stupidity and ignorance for an hour. One relation in particular is a rabid Trump hater - apparently his Facebook page is nothing but anti-Trump rants - and he can't stop going on about it.

I should have just gone outside or into another room.

In anger, I bet my lib brother that we will be at war within 6 months of Hill's inauguration if she wins. I really hope I lose that bet, but the way the Dems conduct their foreign policy....I did it in response to all the idiot talk of GOP "warmongering."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 01:07 PM (P8951)

146 On the video I mention above the last Christian crusade was in 1240 ad. Islam has had battles invading the west as recent as 1920.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 01:07 PM (sWbjH)

147 @137

oops, fat-finger error. The Mass-Casualty Index would be 0.61 for everybody else.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 23, 2016 01:08 PM (5Yee7)

148 This post is full of lies! I f you listen to filthy joos, you have no one to blame but yourself. No. Wait[ that's Scandis. Do I need a snark tag? I haven't commented in a while, and don't know what triggers cob logger hambannering.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at October 23, 2016 01:08 PM (fRgt5)

149 Well good luck Donna, vacate if you must for sanity.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 01:08 PM (sWbjH)

150 135 What keeps my heart up is the thought of the tears of these people when Trump wins.

Tears. Delicious tears.
Posted by: blaster at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (ACqhm)

Please. Please God please.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 01:08 PM (P8951)

151 Do the Morons remember how quite suburban neighborhoods used to be before some son of Satan invented the leaf blower? To me that is the most useless yard tool ever invented. All it does is move leaves and trash from one part of the yard to another.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (mpXpK)
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I understand it can be used to dry one's hair in the event that the power goes off. At least, that's the offer my husband made to my daughter yesterday.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 01:08 PM (uHcnA)

152 I saw Government School Toaster open for Bread in 1977 at the Agora.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (FQKBL)

153 REMEMBER WHEN DONNA BRAZILE HAD TO LEAVE DUKAKIS CAMPAIGN FOR LIES?


https://tinyurl.com/jz72lzu

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (y3aQB)

154 Deus vult.
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (Om16U)

You really are deplorable. If we don't make it through the next month: t's been an honor.

It uh, it's still been an honor even if we do, though.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (LQwOo)

155 144 Turn off JavaScript on the iPhone before reading the hq
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 01:07 PM (Om16U)


For Safari on iOS devices:

Settings->Safari->Advanced->JavaScript

Turn it off.

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (lcUJ5)

156 What the left calls "Christian radicalism" is centered in the belief that we owe obedience to God, and not the state when the state opposes God's laws.

This is why Muslims saying "Sharia law trumps US law" doesn't concern me as much as it does some. I believe the same thing about God's law: where there is conflict, God's law is supreme.

Granted, Muslims believe their god's law trumps nearly the entire constitution and US law, but still, the principle isn't as shocking to me as some.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (39g3+)

157 SMFH, how are you today? And how is Carl?

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 01:10 PM (uHcnA)

158 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (39g3+)


You keep forgetting that muzzism is a death cult, not a real religion. Hell, you may as well worship Kali as mohamed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:13 PM (mpXpK)

159 It's not so much that the Jet's suck, but that suck in ways a pee wee football team would not even suck. And that Sucks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:13 PM (K63aO)

160 THis is a radical Christian, from the perspective of God:

Heidelberg Catechism Q & A 32

Q. But why are you called a Christian?
A. Because by faith I am a member of Christ and so I share in his anointing.
I am anointed to confess his name,
to present myself to him as a living sacrifice of thanks,
to strive with a free conscience against sin and the devil in this life,
and afterward to reign with Christ over all creation for eternity

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:13 PM (39g3+)

161 On the video I mention above the last Christian crusade was in 1240 ad. Islam has had battles invading the west as recent as 1920.
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 01:07 PM (sWbjH)

Wow what a western-centric thing to say. Late 20th and early 21st century activity Chechnya, India, Malaysia, the Phillipines, Nigeria, Somalia, Serbia, and the ongoing European migrant invasion don't count? Fucking cis white male shitlord. Give islam some credit.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:13 PM (LQwOo)

162 You keep forgetting that muzzism is a death cult, not a real religion.

Either way, the principle of obeying one's religious teachings over man's law isn't as horrific a concept as some seem to think. It just matters what your faith teaches.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)

163 Kira has occupied my chair and I am sitting perched on the edge.

She's such a sweetie.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 01:14 PM (sdi6R)

164 Tamerlane spread Islam by killing an estimated 5% of the world's population

Most of those Timur killed were Muslims. Like how the Almoravids reunited the Islamic part of Spain... at the expense of their fellow Muslim taifas. Not so much of the Basque, Catalan, proto-Portuguese, and proto-Spanish statelets.

The various Spaniards were able to use the respite to reach common cause, though. The crippled Byzantine empire wasn't.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:14 PM (6FqZa)

165 I see we need a banning

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:15 PM (mpXpK)

166 He didn't like it when I refuted his argument with math: if the U.S. Mohammadan population is 2% then the normalized Mass-Casualty Attack Index for Mohammadans would be 20 (40% attacks divided by 2% population) while the Index for everybody else would be 1.63 (60% attacks divided by 98% population) in the U.S.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 23, 2016 01:03 PM (5Yee7)



Well done. It's like when people say that golden retrievers bite more people than Presa Canarios, totally ignoring the relative populations involved. There are probably millions of goldens, and about eight Presa Canarios, and they're probably running neck and neck in biting.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:16 PM (SRKgf)

167 I see we need a banning

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:15 PM (mpXpK)


Hold on there. The Jets don't suck?

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (z1o2c)

168 I see we need a banning

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:15 PM (mpXpK)

Hold on there. The Jets don't suck?
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (z1o2c)


LOL, I was thinking the same thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (K63aO)

169 A coworker of mine in his late twenties is always defending Islam. Asked him the other day just exactly what he knew about it and if he'd ever read the Koran. *crickets*

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (Tyii7)

170 A coworker of mine in his late twenties is always defending Islam. Asked him the other day just exactly what he knew about it and if he'd ever read the Koran. *crickets*
Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (Tyii7)

Did he even know what the Koran was? Or what Countries are islamic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:19 PM (K63aO)

171 Phone of kari is trying to mock the Left by giving satirical Leftist-style comments.

It obviously isn't working, kari, so maybe let it go.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 23, 2016 01:19 PM (FP3TD)

172 Kira has occupied my chair and I am sitting perched on the edge.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 01:14 PM (sdi6R)

Erroneous! I did no such thing!

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:20 PM (LQwOo)

173 169 A coworker of mine in his late twenties is always defending Islam. Asked him the other day just exactly what he knew about it and if he'd ever read the Koran. *crickets*
Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (Tyii7)



I tried. It's unreadable. It reads like a transcript of some Berkeley psychotic's ravings as he channels Nostradamus.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:20 PM (SRKgf)

174 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+) & Islam teaches to convert the infidel & if they won't convert ! KILL THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:20 PM (y3aQB)

175 The Rams crappy plays is radicalizing me....gah.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 01:21 PM (gcme+)

176 A lot of this anti-Christian paranoia comes from Ashkenazi Jews, I notice. They lived in Poland where there weren't any Muslims to give them perspective. If they know of the Sephardic experience at all, it's from a bunch of ridiculous lies about how tolerant the Muslims were in Spain.

(Obviously that ignorance is not a problem with the Moron Tribe.)

Liberal Jews, if they're lurking here, need to read Bat Yeor. If they're not going to read anything honest about Andalusia they should at least read about how the Central Asian Muslims behaved.

Actually I wonder if there's Yiddish literature on travels and trade outside Europe, especially with the Volga Bulgar emirate... how far back does it go?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:22 PM (6FqZa)

177 You really didn't know who Russell Simmons is? Honestly?

Posted by: rexbatt at October 23, 2016 01:22 PM (woA40)

178 Favorite line I've read in a long time (Sultan Knish?):

"The armies of Allah throw rocks at the space ships of the infidels."

Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:23 PM (NBBVt)

179 4 turnovers in last 5 minutes in Eagles/Vikings, 2 a peice.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 01:23 PM (sWbjH)

180
"Where is current Christian radicalism centered?"


As global ecumenism (the ultimate goal of decades of theological liberalism [aka unbelief] ) spreads, "radicalism" is fast being defined as anyone who takes the Bible alone seriously -- no matter how societally productive and otherwise harmless we are. We are the enemy now. The Bible is a weapon. The God Who Is is not wanted; the God You Choose To Believe In increasingly rules throughout professing Christendom.

For now.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 01:23 PM (UW4Uc)

181 It obviously isn't working, kari, so maybe let it go.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 23, 2016 01:19 PM (FP3TD)

Yeah I'll shut up. It's not funny anyway. Also half the places I mentioned aren't European. Also I'm trying to do this while eating Buffalo chicken dip and trying on costumes.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:24 PM (LQwOo)

182 Islam teaches to convert the infidel & if they won't convert

Once more, you need to separate the principle from the practice.

In principle obeying God over man is not shocking to me

The practice of Islam is ghastly and evil.

See how it works?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:25 PM (39g3+)

183 A lot of this anti-Christian paranoia comes from Ashkenazi Jews, I notice. They lived in Poland where there weren't any Muslims to give them perspective. If they know of the Sephardic experience at all, it's from a bunch of ridiculous lies about how tolerant the Muslims were in Spain.


I don't think that is accurate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:25 PM (K63aO)

184 Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 01:10 PM (uHcnA)

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He's resting comfortably.

I'm ok.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at October 23, 2016 01:26 PM (ogaHx)

185 Nevergiveup, they do have help from post-Christians with daddy issues

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:26 PM (6FqZa)

186 Chicken wings; costuming; and commenting using a phone and not a desktop. That's multitasking.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 23, 2016 01:26 PM (FP3TD)

187 NGU -I'm having doubts too on that

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 01:27 PM (sWbjH)

188 My Sunday school teacher quoted Les Nessman today.

If that's not a sign of radicalization...

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 01:27 PM (gTQoY)

189 Mr. Simmons can lecture me about Islam after he sends his teenage daughters on an all expense paid tour of European public swimming pools. :/

Posted by: moronhorde minion at October 23, 2016 01:28 PM (/NSUP)

190 You really didn't know who Russell Simmons is? Honestly?
Posted by: rexbatt at October 23, 2016 01:22 PM (woA40)

lol no. Should I?

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:28 PM (LQwOo)

191 I'm the Hildebeest
And you're the sheep that I fleece
I get the votes of the deceased.
Huma's my piece in the Middle East.

When she greases my crease
All my tension's realeased
What's good for the ganda
Is good for the geese.

I infect you like yeast
From the first to the least.
When I'm done with this country
It's gonna need to see a priest.


Posted by: Hillary at October 23, 2016 01:28 PM (mBYZv)

192 https://tinyurl.com/hdljqyq


The Podesta Emails Part 16

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:29 PM (y3aQB)

193 I'm the Hildebeest
And you're the sheep that I fleece
I get the votes of the deceased.
Huma's my piece in the Middle East.

When she greases my crease
All my tension's realeased
What's good for the ganda
Is good for the geese.

I infect you like yeast
From the first to the least.
When I'm done with this country
It's gonna need to see a priest.


Posted by: Hillary at October 23, 2016 01:28 PM (mBYZv)

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Threadwinner.

Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at October 23, 2016 01:29 PM (ogaHx)

194 Chicken wings; costuming; and commenting using a phone and not a desktop. That's multitasking.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 23, 2016 01:26 PM (FP3TD)

And as usual with my attempts at multitasking it's got a 70% chance of ending up with buffalo sauce on my costume and an afternoon in the barrel.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:30 PM (LQwOo)

195 Did he even know what the Koran was? Or what Countries are islamic?

I suppose I could have pursued it a bit further but figured I was trying to draw water from an empty well.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 23, 2016 01:31 PM (Tyii7)

196 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:25 PM (39g3+)UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM NO! NO I DON'T !

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:31 PM (y3aQB)

197 I always like to ask libtards: name one thing that we need or like that muslims can provide to us, or ever have.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:31 PM (NBBVt)

198 177
You really didn't know who Russell Simmons is? Honestly?


Posted by: rexbatt at October 23, 2016 01:22 PM (woA40)

I go through about 20 news sites every morning and have been doing that for over 15 years and I didn't know who he is. As I said earlier, he is unknown out of the NYC area and mostly only known in Queens and Harlem.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:32 PM (mpXpK)

199 Fuckboy surely has been told at the Daily Show, the cost of studio security will go up considerably if he ever talks about Islam the way he talks about Christianity. "Probably".

It's not a matter of money, and it isn't even a matter of bravery. He just has a psychological needs to hold on to the things that make him a smug smarmy shit to his neighbors and family.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 23, 2016 01:32 PM (VdICR)

200 The Koran if I remember correctly is not organized chronologically and therefore leaves it open to varied interpretations as to what their prophet was acturally saying. There are some parts that advocate being nice, etc and most Muslims choose to ignore all the violent rantings and concentrate on those sections. The Isis and mullahs advocate all the violence that come later in the Koran except it's all jumbled in terms of historical progression. What I have always wondered is what in in their kabbah in Mecca when they do their Hajj. They peer in but no one ever says what's in it.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 01:32 PM (gcme+)

201 Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:31 PM (NBBVt) thinning the Herd ?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:33 PM (y3aQB)

202 I have a wicked daydream in which all the cars with coexists bumperstickers and their occupants get magically transported to Syria or some other Islamic country so they can experience tolerance first hand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 23, 2016 01:33 PM (Nwg0u)

203 Russell Simmons is a racist fucknut oppressed by millions of dollars given to him largely by white America. He can die in a fire anytime and I wouldn't give a shit.

Posted by: Sponge at October 23, 2016 01:33 PM (qE08n)

204 200 They peer in but no one ever says what's in it.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 01:32 PM (gcme+)

There is a rock in it surrounded by a curtain.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:33 PM (mpXpK)

205 Most of the radicalism is at my church. We send out radical doctors, nurses, and teachers to broken places on the planet to, you know, risk their lives to help abused, forgotten, poverty-stricken people. This has got to stop!!!

Posted by: Cory at October 23, 2016 01:34 PM (CG5t8)

206 200

A black rock inside of a silver vulva-shaped orifice. They worship it.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 01:35 PM (UW4Uc)

207 What I have always wondered is what in in their kabbah in Mecca when they do their Hajj. They peer in but no one ever says what's in it.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 01:32 PM (gcme+)


Madonna and a glory hole.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 01:35 PM (z1o2c)

208 In the past few years I've been associated with volunteer emergency disaster groups and medical first responders. In that time the typical member is conservative and Christian.

Posted by: Octiparan at October 23, 2016 01:35 PM (7cl3r)

209 201 Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:31 PM (NBBVt) thinning the Herd ?
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:33 PM (y3aQB)

I was gonna guess heroin, which could be seen by some as a like and/or a need.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:36 PM (NBBVt)

210 Gene Simmons is dead?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at October 23, 2016 01:36 PM (Tyii7)

211 There is some footage of the inside of the Ka'ba on youtube. Empty room with some geometric patterns IIRC.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:36 PM (6FqZa)

212 I'm calling shenanigans.

There's a Yuuge disconnect between the three big national tracking polls, which show Trump with a small lead, and those sponsored by MSM, which show a Hillary landslide.

Several of us here have been exposing the purposeful flaws in the MSM polls. It's easy to show Hillary leading by using 2012 turnout patterns, oversampling Ds, undersampling Is, and applying arbitrary adjustments.

e.g. yesterday's Q poll shows Hillary up 6% but doesn't break out its demographic or turnout assumptions. But notably, buried in the detail, it shows Hillary only getting 63% support from "non-white" which is way below what Obama got in 2012. Lower non-white turnout than 2012 will take her actual non-white votes even lower.

I also expect Trump to do better than his polling because many of his supporters didn't vote in 2012 and don't pass a "likely" screen. The intensity of his support is also higher, so his support is more likely to actually show up even when the pundits are saying the election is over.

Saying Hillary will win in a landslide is actually a kind of voter suppression. It may blowback on Hillary, so long as Trump's folks show up and Hillary's sit on their ass. Let us pray.

I fully expect a Holy Shit Moment when we wake up on Wed Nov 9, with Trump winning by at least 2% and with 298 or more EVs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (bQxkN)

213 The black rock in the silver encasing is on the *outside* of the ka'ba. I don't think pilgrims enter the cube.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (6FqZa)

214 That's weird; Russell Simmons comes across as such a nice guy in his exercise videos.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (0OG8D)

215 Do we really need four moar years of a hip hop White House?

What ever happened to classical music, some semblance of adult sophistication? Instead we have a lame duck conversation about the propriety of twerking.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (cyoBN)

216 if he'd ever read the Koran. *crickets*
Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 23, 2016 01:18 PM (Tyii7)


I tried. It's unreadable.

-
Like Mein Kampf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 23, 2016 01:38 PM (Nwg0u)

217 Ignoramus, that won't stop "poll man" from dropping into threads with their comments

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:38 PM (6FqZa)

218 I have a radicalized Christian church in South Korea, I've mentioned a few times.


After I broke my elbow in 2 places and was in the hospital for 17 days, my pastor's wife came EVERY day to wash me up, including the week when her 2nd grandchild was born and her daughter was in the hospital.



Such evil in the world....



And I love that woman. Great people. I can't wait to get back.


Everyone have a great day.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 23, 2016 01:38 PM (2L42J)

219 The Trumpkins will crawl over broken glass to vote, Clinton Mafioso's not so much

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:38 PM (y3aQB)

220 I fully expect a Holy Shit Moment when we wake up on Wed Nov 9, with Trump winning by at least 2% and with 298 or more EVs.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (bQxkN)

We can always say that a woman's vote is worth only 70% of a man's vote....and claim that it was inspired by sharia law.

Posted by: model_1066 at October 23, 2016 01:39 PM (NBBVt)

221 Radical Christians is lefty dog-whistle for Pro-Life Christians.

Pro-Life Muslims, just as for Muslim terrorists, they don't see as existing.

Posted by: geoffb5 at October 23, 2016 01:39 PM (d3wbb)

222 With 16 days till Election Day, the only thing that matters now is turn out.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:40 PM (K63aO)

223 As for Islamophobia: if your religion espouses the destruction of my culture and the murder of my coreligionists, you are damned straight going to get push-back from me.


And the former is really enough for me. Leaving aside the danger of jihad, most Muslims simply do not share our values, such as free speech, freedom of religion, etc.

And we are not morally obligated to put ourselves in the minority, at the mercy of people who have an incompatible system of values that most of us find repugnant.

I think that liberals subconsciously agree, but are following some muddle headed reasoning that is allowed to prevail in their minds, because they do not consciously analyze it. Something like:
i) I instinctively do not like the Muslim religion
ii) That means I am racist
iii) To do penance for my racism, I must agitate to bring over thousands of them to our shores and loudly denounce any who would disagree.

But if they feel this way, they should understand that they have no right to subject the rest of us to the destruction of our way of life, simply because they have issues. If they wish to work out their issues, they should become citizens of an Islamic nation and leave the rest of us in peace.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 23, 2016 01:40 PM (dtWKK)

224 That's weird; Russell Simmons comes across as such a nice guy in his exercise videos.
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at October 23, 2016 01:37 PM (0OG8D)


Isn't he dead? He was great as Token Black Guy on the Dean Martin roasts.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 23, 2016 01:40 PM (Pz4pT)

225 That's a good video Barb, thanks.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:40 PM (3Liv/)

226 Hot Air had a series by Robert Spencer called 'Blogging the Koran' which was pretty good. Those interested could probably locate it and fondly remember the days when Hot Air was readable.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 23, 2016 01:40 PM (2L42J)

227 Leaving aside the danger of jihad, most Muslims simply do not share our values, such as free speech, freedom of religion, etc.

And we are not morally obligated to put ourselves in the minority, at the mercy of people who have an incompatible system of values that most of us find repugnant.


Exactly! And The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2016 01:41 PM (K63aO)

228 I do to know why these liberal idiots never talk to a Christian living in a Muslim country for some perspective or to a gay or lesbian living in a Muslim country.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 01:41 PM (gcme+)

229 213

I stand corrected.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 01:41 PM (UW4Uc)

230 A person thinking lefties and terrorists deserve a harsh reckoning sounds a little less "radical" each day...

Posted by: JoshO at October 23, 2016 01:42 PM (1uOER)

231 Richard Simmons, Gene Simmons, them I'd heard of. I *might* have seen this other guy's name, but probably only here. So add me to the list of people who couldn't pick this guy out of a line-up.


Of course that applies to many many "well known" people, as I have scant contact with pop culture, products of Hollywood, etc.


My response, when shocked people ask if it's true that I've never heard of someone "famous", is that it's OK, they've never heard of me, either.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 01:43 PM (QDnY+)

232 Some day I want to read Mein Kampf, I've read the Koran. It has some okay parts (repent for the judgment is coming), a lot of pointless stupid stuff, and some really awful stuff. But the Koran isn't the main problem with Islam; its the later stuff that was added on by successive movements of ever more crazed clerics.

The Koran is bad enough but stuff like female circumcision came from teachings by later clerics. Most of the really awful teachings we suffer from with suicide bombings etc comes from the Hadith and later Sharia rulings. Islam would be a mess still if they just followed the Koran, but much less of a mess.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:43 PM (39g3+)

233 The Koran if I remember correctly is not organized chronologically


Typical Third World organizational skills.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:43 PM (SRKgf)

234 I am feeling seriously depressed to the point of almost not functioning and it's not because of what I see on TV - it's the nonstop political stupidity I have to listen to from coworkers and family. If you want to know what is wrong with this country today, just listen to the vapid cliches mouthed by ordinary middle class people. The worst thing about it is I can't talk to the people I love about what's wrong with me because they are part of the problem.

It won't discourage me from voting - nothing will - but it's overwhelming on a day to day basis.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 01:44 PM (P8951)

235 Fun fact!

Russell Simmons started the whole urban trend of the oversize baseball cap, because a regular cap looks huge on his tiny head.

True. The guy's got a head the size of a bocce ball.

Which explains the deep thoughts that regularly come forth from his wee brain, like 'Rain is racist if I get wet!'

Now...you know!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 23, 2016 01:45 PM (nd1zx)

236 If anyone has spent any amount of time in an Islamic country, you will quickly discover that this childish notion about equality that we Americans have is completely non existant.
Everyone has a place and knows their place. Either my boot in on your neck or yours is on mine.
That is the way it is with them.

Posted by: navybrat at October 23, 2016 01:45 PM (w7KSn)

237 Russell Simmons is a Fing Moron

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 12:09 PM (y3aQB)

No he's not. He might be a moron, but he's not a Moron. Capital letters have meaning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 01:45 PM (CUYn5)

238
More Voters Want Hillary Clinton in Prison Than the Oval Office

https://tinyurl.com/glwoyo5

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:46 PM (y3aQB)

239 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 01:45 PM (CUYn5) hahaha OK

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:46 PM (y3aQB)

240 You're welcome, Methos.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 01:47 PM (FQKBL)

241 The kaaba is the building that they worship


http://bit.ly/2dzlhA9


The black stone of mecca is mounted as the cornerstone in the building


http://bit.ly/2ekvVd9


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:47 PM (mpXpK)

242 Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

++++

street corner bible bangers

duh

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 23, 2016 01:48 PM (U0lQa)

243 I fully expect a Holy Shit Moment when we wake up on Wed Nov 9, with Trump winning by at least 2% and with 298 or more EVs.
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I'm expecting the Holy Shit moment sometime Tuesday night. Some state is going to post results that are off the polls the same way Brexit was, and the anchors will be crapping themselves from that point forward.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:48 PM (3Liv/)

244 The Koran if I remember correctly is not organized chronologically and therefore leaves it open to varied interpretations as to what their prophet was acturally saying. There are some parts that advocate being nice, etc and most Muslims choose to ignore all the violent rantings and concentrate on those sections. The Isis and mullahs advocate all the violence that come later in the Koran except it's all jumbled in terms of historical progression.
...
Posted by: IC


BTH can correct me if I'm wrong, but it isn't the case that the chronological order is unknown, although as you say, it is not arranged chronologically.

There are the earlier "Mecca" verses that advocate tolerance (before Mo's religion really gained momentum, so he was advocating a kind of taqqiya) and the later "Medina" verses that advocate subjugation of the Kufir.

There is a doctrine (doctrine of abrogation) that the religious leaders follow, which is that when there is a contradiction, the later verses supersede the earlier verses.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 23, 2016 01:48 PM (dtWKK)

245 VIDEO : Chris Wallace Delivers a FATAL BLOW to LYING Clinton Campaign Manager


https://tinyurl.com/jfw9tor

Hahahahahaha

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (y3aQB)

246 Ignoramus, you probably have done the leg-work on this, so may be able to answer.


I saw an undocumented/linked comment somewhere that the IBD-TIPP poll had a D+ 6 (?) weighting.


Did you look at their internals?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (QDnY+)

247 Christianity is responsible materially and often directly for nearly every great achievement and benefit we enjoy modern society; it paved the way for liberty, scientific achievement, equality under law and so many other things. Christianity is the only cultural and moral framework under which a democracy can survive.

That doesn't mean everyone has to be Christian, only that the culture needs -- as the founding fathers had -- a Judeo-Christian worldview and for their morality to be based on Christian principles. Lose that and you lose your freedom.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (39g3+)

248 So basically what you have is millions of cult followers bowing down and worshipping a building with a rock mounted in the corner of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (mpXpK)

249 I'm expecting the Holy Shit moment sometime Tuesday night. Some state is going to post results that are off the polls the same way Brexit was, and the anchors will be crapping themselves from that point forward.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:48 PM (3Liv/)


Please, God, let it be so.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

250 248 So basically what you have is millions of cult followers bowing down and worshipping a building with a rock mounted in the corner of it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (mpXpK)



Don't forget the silver labia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

251 >>Do the Morons remember how quite suburban
neighborhoods used to be before some son of Satan invented the leaf
blower? To me that is the most useless yard tool ever invented. All it
does is move leaves and trash from one part of the yard to another.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Used properly it moves the leaves and trash to the neighbor's yard.

Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 01:50 PM (5huyv)

252 Some state is going to post results that are off the polls the same way Brexit was, and the anchors will be crapping themselves from that point forward.

That happened in 2004, when Virginia went for Bush, which was the opposite of what the exit polls claimed it was going to do (vote Kerry). My memory is telling me the exit polls had Kerry taking Kentucky as well, but that's probably from the Mandela-died-in-prison universe.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:51 PM (6FqZa)

253 The Koran if I remember correctly is not organized chronologically

I have no evidence for this, but I believe it was arranged by illiterate people. They didn't know what it said, so they arranged it by what it looked like.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (39g3+)

254 BTW, anyone notice that Political Hat is unavailable?

Posted by: George LeS at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (+TcCF)

He got married? And never told us?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (CUYn5)

255 No he's not. He might be a moron, but he's not a Moron. Capital letters have meaning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 01:45 PM (CUYn5)

------------------

Moron™

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (uHcnA)

256 So basically what you have is millions of cult followers bowing down and
worshipping a building with a rock mounted in the corner of it.

Yes. Which is why the Unspeakable Military Doctrine to End Islam Once And For All would actually work, when coupled with Medina and the Dome of the Rock.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (UW4Uc)

257 243
I fully expect a Holy Shit Moment when we wake up on Wed Nov 9, with Trump winning by at least 2% and with 298 or more EVs.
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I'm
expecting the Holy Shit moment sometime Tuesday night. Some state is
going to post results that are off the polls the same way Brexit was,
and the anchors will be crapping themselves from that point forward.


Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:48 PM (3Liv/)

God I love the horde. Who's your dealer, I want to smoke some of that shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (NbJXF)

258 Christianity is responsible materially and often directly for nearly every great achievement and benefit we enjoy modern society; it paved the way for liberty, scientific achievement, equality under law and so many other things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (39g3+)


If it weren't for the Catholic monks copying the works of the Greeks and the Romans, thereby saving and preserving them, there would be no Enlightenment nor Western Civilization.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 01:53 PM (z1o2c)

259 245 VIDEO : Chris Wallace Delivers a FATAL BLOW to LYING Clinton Campaign Manager
https://tinyurl.com/jfw9tor
Hahahahahaha
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (y3aQB)



Beautiful. An outbreak of common sense.

Just like the O'Keefe videos. Faked? Deceptively edited? Then why did Foval get fired?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:53 PM (SRKgf)

260 Onward! Christian Soldiers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 23, 2016 01:53 PM (JO9+V)

261 Donna, what you said, but going on for many years now, much worse since 2008 of course. There has always been a gulf - I've been into policy s**t since I was a teenager, and been involved with various aspects for decades.


Their "views" are based on TV news/NPR/NYT-wire service level understanding of the "news" and the world. Meaning they now, at this point, are as ill-informed (or upside-down misinformed) as badly as Soviets who were dim enough to buy the party line back in the Cold War days (a comparison I make with specific personal experience of same).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 01:53 PM (QDnY+)

262 but it isn't the case that the chronological order is unknown, although as you say, it is not arranged chronologically.

This is correct. The Muslims have a chronological order which the Hadith has bequeathed to them. "Meccan" first, mostly the shorter stuff at the end of the book, then "Madinan", mostly the longer stuff at the beginning. Usually suras like 5, 9, and 61 are assigned to the last years of Muhammad's life. Those are also the most aggressive suras, both in doctrine and in direct urges to go out and beat up on unbelievers.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:54 PM (6FqZa)

263 I have no evidence for this, but I believe it was arranged by illiterate people. They didn't know what it said, so they arranged it by what it looked like.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (39g3+)



Gotta love the Third World.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:54 PM (SRKgf)

264 251
>>Do the Morons remember how quite suburban

neighborhoods used to be before some son of Satan invented the leaf

blower? To me that is the most useless yard tool ever invented. All it

does is move leaves and trash from one part of the yard to another.




Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

It is my understanding that when a Mexican crosses the border, he is given a leaf blower to torment real citizens.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 23, 2016 01:54 PM (NbJXF)

265 It's funny. So many Clinton supporters I've met have
gone from smug to high anxiety. Some believe the wild-ass +12 Clinton
polls (like today's ABC laugher) and are euphoric. The thing is, I work
in retail and I (usually) listen to what people say and I have the
strong impression that Trump's support is far stronger than the
conventional wisdom indicates.

What is driving the Lefties nuts
is that Trump's support is not collapsing. Trump is in the news every
day, while Hillary is MIA. And the American people are looking at the
monolithic MSM and more than a few voters don't like that one damn bit.


Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:56 PM (JBggj)


So ABC has Clinton +12.I caught a glimpse a bit of FOX with a caption along the line of "Democrats optimistic that Clinton's rising polls will help down-ticket." If it were true it would be unremarkable.
They had some wild-ass polls a couple of weeks ago where they polled +15 to +20 democrats but were only able to eek out a Hillary +12.But, I have give props to ABC, they polled +12 democrats and managed to get Hillary +12 out of it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 23, 2016 01:55 PM (P/kVC)

266 The dude is a waste of space.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 23, 2016 01:55 PM (lQqij)

267 How did they find out about the Texas meet up so quickly???

Posted by: lindafell de spair- deplorable, uneducated, racist, misogynist, redneck in TEXIT!! at October 23, 2016 01:56 PM (JNDQi)

268 If it weren't for the Catholic monks copying the works of the Greeks and the Romans, thereby saving and preserving them, there would be no Enlightenment nor Western Civilization.

To give the Muslims some credit, they did their best to translate (and preserve) Greek and Syriac works on medicine, mathematics, and astronomy.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 01:56 PM (6FqZa)

269 Boy, is my jaw sore.

Posted by: Madonna at October 23, 2016 01:56 PM (Tyii7)

270 OT. On i-phone, I am getting redirects from the AOSHQ site. Very aggressive redirects -- make the site unusable. (I'm not using i-phone for this message.) It's happening on other conservative sites as well. Sabotage?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (/f6Nd)

iPhone, hammer, rock. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 01:56 PM (CUYn5)

271 The "holy s**t" moment for me (well, there were several) happened years ago, not just in 2008. Have no idea what will happen Nov. 8, but regardless, I don't view the US the same way and never will again. That Clinton can even be a candidate for any public office says it all.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 01:56 PM (QDnY+)

272 If it weren't for the Catholic monks copying the works of the Greeks and the Romans, thereby saving and preserving them,

Mostly the Irish, interestingly enough. Because Ireland was more or less isolated by the ocean, their monasteries were largely untouched and their works safe from marauding invaders like the Danes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)

273 the culture needs -- as the founding fathers had -- a Judeo-Christian worldview and for their morality to be based on Christian principles. Lose that and you lose your freedom.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (39g3+)

THIS. Something which has been heavily weighing on me: this election does NOT end on the 9th when we are dipping our privates in pudding with joy over Trump's bigly win. The real work must come from parents inculcating a love of freedom and a knowledge and understanding of history in their children and somehow, the Arts must be regained. Music, film ,television and print today offer relentless leftist messaging. Remember what Breitbart said," Politics is downstream from culture."

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 23, 2016 01:58 PM (oQQwD)

274 That happened in 2004, when Virginia went for Bush, which was the
opposite of what the exit polls claimed it was going to do (vote Kerry).
My memory is telling me the exit polls had Kerry taking Kentucky as
well, but that's probably from the Mandela-died-in-prison universe.
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It happened in 2000, too, didn't it? Florida was projected for Gore and all the networks called it for him and as a result started popping the corks for the overall election and then the returns went the other way, at one point so obviously so that he conceded, but the next morning it turned out the results were within reach of the courts.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (3Liv/)

275 I want to smoke some of that shit.

I think you've had quite enough.

Posted by: Madonna at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (Tyii7)

276 https://tinyurl.com/hdljqyq

The Podesta Emails Part 16
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:29 PM (y3aQB)


Many thanks. I hope that there are people who will go through these with a fine-toothed comb.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (nvMvs)

277 Mostly the Irish, interestingly enough. Because Ireland was more or less isolated by the ocean, their monasteries were largely untouched and their works safe from marauding invaders like the Danes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)



Didn't the Vikings found Dublin?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (SRKgf)

278 The koran was originally never supposed to be placed in writing. An imam was supposed to be trained by another imam and the 'faithful" taught by word of mouth. That was most likely because the entire nation of Bedouin camel jockeys were illiterate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:00 PM (mpXpK)

279 Yes. Which is why the Unspeakable Military Doctrine to End Islam Once
And For All would actually work, when coupled with Medina and the Dome
of the Rock.
---
Er, I don't want to nuke Jerusalem. Or bomb the Temple Mount. Maybe just break out the bulldozers for that one.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 02:00 PM (3Liv/)

280 219 The Trumpkins will crawl over broken glass to vote, Clinton Mafioso's not so much
Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 01:38 PM (y3aQB)

Well, unless you convince the masses that Trump is a Satanic Hitler- fiqure who hates women and wants them all to die after undergoing back alley abortions but not before he grabs them all by the pussy.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:01 PM (P8951)

281 That was most likely because the entire nation of Bedouin camel jockeys were illiterate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:00 PM (mpXpK)



"You've come a long way, baby! Or maybe not."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

282 Those +11% polls for the Hildabeast are pure propaganda, I will keep saying it. The polls' sample is biased to begin with, and many pro-trump voters are silent anyway. The polls also undercount the third-party voters or label them "undecided". Because of course there can be only two political parties, the democrats and the Sith.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 23, 2016 02:01 PM (ry4ab)

283 Something which has been heavily weighing on me: this election does NOT end on the 9th when we are dipping our privates in pudding with joy over Trump's bigly win.

Or if Hillary wins. Either way, the only future we have is to have many children and raise them well. That means not turning them over to our enemies to educate and raise them, or entertain them.

The days of when we can say "well they can have a little bit of this and we can help them fight through it" are past. Too much is at stake, the enemy so insidious and seductive, and the evil too ever-present and surrounding us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:02 PM (39g3+)

284 Do the Morons remember how quite suburban neighborhoods used to be before some son of Satan invented the leaf blower? To me that is the most useless yard tool ever invented. All it does is move leaves and trash from one part of the yard to another.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:04 PM (mpXpK)

Well, you aren't qualified to run one. Got to be mexican, you know.

Seriously, one good use I saw for one: a car dealership blowing a light fall of snow off the cars in their lot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:02 PM (CUYn5)

285 Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (nvMvs) their are !

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 02:02 PM (y3aQB)

286 It's probably good we have not cheerleaders with elbows thread today. The Bungles are managing to trail the Browns this week!

Posted by: exdem13 at October 23, 2016 02:02 PM (ry4ab)

287 No one should read emails illegally obtained! It's illegal and immoral! What? We found Trump's tax returns? Get that shit printed stat!

-NYT

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 23, 2016 02:03 PM (kTF2Z)

288 The kaaba is the building that they worship


http://bit.ly/2dzlhA9


The black stone of mecca is mounted as the cornerstone in the building


http://bit.ly/2ekvVd9




Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:47 PM (mpXpK)


Weird that iconoclasts worship a building.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 23, 2016 02:03 PM (P/kVC)

289 Didn't the Vikings found Dublin?

Yeah, that's why it was largely instead of entirely; a few places got hit by the Vikings. But mostly Ireland was left alone because the Irish were crazy as the Danes and tougher than the English.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (39g3+)

290 Vic: The koran was originally never supposed to be placed in writing. An imam was supposed to be trained by another imam and the 'faithful" taught by word of mouth.

I'm curious, where did you read that? I agree with you, based on certain references in the Quran to a "people of the book" who aren't Muslims. But is there someone who has made this explicit and put it down in an argument?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (6FqZa)

291
God I love the horde. Who's your dealer, I want to smoke some of that shit.


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 23, 2016 01:52 PM (NbJXF)

I'm not smoking anything.
If Rasmussen is right and for example, the NeverTrump Fox News poll is wrong, that's going to be a 10 point swing on election day for the Fox anchors even without the Shy Tory effect

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (3Liv/)

292 It happened in 2000, too, didn't it? Florida was projected for Gore and all the networks called it for him and as a result started popping the corks for the overall election and then the returns went the other way, at one point so obviously so that he conceded, but the next morning it turned out the results were within reach of the courts.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (3Liv/)


The media, being the geniuses they are, forgot Florida is in two time zones with Pensacola, e.g., in the Central Time Zone.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (z1o2c)

293 282 Those +11% polls for the Hildabeast are pure propaganda, I will keep saying it. The polls' sample is biased to begin with, and many pro-trump voters are silent anyway. The polls also undercount the third-party voters or label them "undecided". Because of course there can be only two political parties, the democrats and the Sith.


Obama was only +8 in 2008 & Clinton Mafia between the Obama Bots hating her & the Berners hating her, she won't get even half of that +8 let alone +11

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (y3aQB)

294 I'm on GAB but I'm still not entirely sure how this "social media" thing works

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)- deplorable, irredeemable, racist, islamaphobe, misogynist, redneck in TEX at October 23, 2016 02:06 PM (JNDQi)

295 So basically what you have is millions of cult
followers bowing down and worshipping a building with a rock mounted in
the corner of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 01:49 PM (mpXpK)





Don't forget the silver labia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

Unless it has been the victim of FGM.
Looks more like a bedpan or prison toilet rim.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 23, 2016 02:06 PM (P/kVC)

296 290 I'm curious, where did you read that? I agree with you, based on certain references in the Quran to a "people of the book" who aren't Muslims. But is there someone who has made this explicit and put it down in an argument?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 02:04 PM (6FqZa)

I read in somewhere out there on the internet when I was doing all my original research on what made the muzzies tick. Should be pretty easy to find again.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:06 PM (mpXpK)

297 Didn't the Vikings found Dublin?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (SRKgf)


They drank their way through, hence being 'berserk', which translated from the Danish into Gaelic as 'blind drunk' or, as the Irish viewed it, any night of the week.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:06 PM (z1o2c)

298 There were many competing Korans, once upon a time. Still are various translations. While the same can be said for variant Biblical texts, the one thread running from Genesis to Revelation is God's desire and plan to reconcile man to Himself though the Son.

The only real-through line of the Koran is lust for power, conquest and murder, to the glory of a god that commands and rewards such unto the very last day.

Despite knowing that, assuming they even DO know it, leftists prefer the Koran anyway. I believe it offers a much closer reflection of what's in their hearts, while the Word of God can only convict them (as is its job).

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:07 PM (UW4Uc)

299 I continue to be convinced that our nation would be better off if the press was not allowed to report on election results or trials until both are over. Its not a restriction of freedom of speech to be said to wait until the event is concluded, particularly with how reporting can manipulate events.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

300 THIS. Something which has been heavily weighing on me: this election does NOT end on the 9th when we are dipping our privates in pudding with joy over Trump's bigly win. The real work must come from parents inculcating a love of freedom and a knowledge and understanding of history in their children and somehow, the Arts must be regained. Music, film ,television and print today offer relentless leftist messaging. Remember what Breitbart said," Politics is downstream from culture."
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 23, 2016 01:58 PM (oQQwD)

Exactly. The biggest error the conservatives made - and one that may prove fatal - was conceding the culture to the left.

PJ O'Rourke was guilty of this when he used to write of college students that once they get jobs and earn paychecks they'll give up all the hippy dippy leftism and vote GOP - because that's what happened to him. I knew more than one conservative in the '80's and 90's who said the same.

In the meantime, the leftists got a toehold in the universities in the '60's (actually they were there before, but many profs at the time were liberals who did believe in classical Western values, but were gutless in the face of hard left aggression), expanded their reach as older profs retired in the 70's and were able to use their lock on education and the media to blanket the country in PC.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:08 PM (P8951)

301 from Wiki:


The society during the time of Muhammad
was predominantly oral and for this reason he would recite the Quranic
verses to his Companions and instruct them to memorize it. Due to this,
people question whether the Quran was ever written and collected during
the time of Muhammad.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:08 PM (mpXpK)

302 Like TTRUMP !!!!!;

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at October 23, 2016 02:09 PM (qO7aF)

303 Winston somebody something something, gentlemen (and ladies).


Look where the country is. Look who can even become president, be re-elected, have approval ratings above 40%, and who can run to replace him.


Caution is advised, and advisable.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 02:09 PM (QDnY+)

304 279

Wouldn't need to resort to nukes. Just flatten the place, proving the eternal will of Allah, and Allah himself, does not exist.

Christianity is not existentially tied to any holy site or relic (despite a few traditions that may indicate otherwise) and so is subject to no such threat.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:10 PM (UW4Uc)

305 Thanks, Vic.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 02:12 PM (6FqZa)

306
"Look where the country is. Look who can even become president, be re-elected, have approval ratings above 40%, and who can run to replace him. "

Exactly. I want badly to be optimistic, but after 2012 I am not setting myself up for a fall.

My faith in the essential common sense of the American voter took a massive hit on election day 2012.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:12 PM (P8951)

307 106--- Donna its probably best not to get into politics with family gatherings. My mother for years does her best to squelch it. Dennis Prager advises the same.
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 12:54 PM (sWbjH)
--------------------------------------
Agree whole-heartedly, but as Donna says, it is nearly always the lefties who insist on bringing it up.

For them, politics is an all-encompassing religion. They can and WILL make almost any topic political. They can take an apolitical comment, go berserk taking offense, and then blame the supposed offender for starting "political" talk.

I remember one Thanksgiving when my brother read an old prayer that had a couple of sentences in it (out of dozens) thanking God for religious liberty in this country and praying that our leaders would "walk with God" and "preserve this freedom."
Despite the fact that my bro said at the outset that he took the prayer from an 1890 devotional, my moonbat sister took the 2 sentences as a deliberate attack on Obama and his policies. Ah yes, she was t-r-i-g-g-e-r-e-d --- and it went downhill from there.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 02:12 PM (Nox3c)

308 Thankfully my whole family is conservative to one degree or another, so we don't get any of that kind of conflict. Save a couple of nephews who don't live in the city at least. One of them "married" a fellow dude and brought him to a family event. Once.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:14 PM (39g3+)

309 Christianity has many "holy sites" that are venerated. But people do not pray to the site. No other purported religion that I have ever heard of worships a location. People will go to the church of the nativity to pray to Jesus but they do not pray to the location.


Just another reason to classify the muzzies as a cult.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:14 PM (mpXpK)

310 309

That's why I said Christianity is not *existentially* tied to any of them. Its continued existence does not rely on those sites continuing to exist.

Islam would.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:15 PM (UW4Uc)

311 Off topic

My foot hurts when I walk - on the top inside where the foot bends.
Also on the arch.

Weird.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:16 PM (Om16U)

312 299
I continue to be convinced that our nation would be better off if the
press was not allowed to report on election results or trials until both
are over. Its not a restriction of freedom of speech to be said to
wait until the event is concluded, particularly with how reporting can
manipulate events.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

Supposedly after that FL fiasco the networks made an unofficial deal that they would not report any election results until after the polls closed in CA. That lasted about one hour in the next election.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:16 PM (mpXpK)

313 Yeah its one of the "pillars of faith" for Islam; the hajj to visit Mecca. Islam is, like all non-Christian faiths, entirely works-based: you do this to get that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

314 Christians? Help a Moron out. Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

You can't see it because you're blinded by Christian privilege. Obviously.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 23, 2016 02:18 PM (twAZ/)

315 313

Yep, if you're able you must attempt the pilgrimage, at least once I believe. It's a non-negotiable.

So if the site suddenly became...inaccessible...a pillar of the faith crumbles, taking the others with it simply because no Mohammedan can conceive of Allah allowing it to happen.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:18 PM (UW4Uc)

316 >>The media, being the geniuses they are, forgot Florida is in two time zones with Pensacola, e.g., in the Central Time Zone.

Forgot or "forgot"?

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 02:19 PM (gTQoY)

317 Christianity has many "holy sites" that are venerated. But people do not pray to the site.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:14 PM (mpXpK)


Well, Catholics pray to statues, or so think the tea-totaling Southern Baptist side of my family. And more offensive than that, Catholics have crucifixes in their Churches. How dare they put Christ on a cross. Where on God's green earth do Catholics get that idea from?

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:19 PM (z1o2c)

318 289 Didn't the Vikings found Dublin?

Yeah, that's why it was largely instead of entirely; a few places got hit by the Vikings. But mostly Ireland was left alone because the Irish were crazy as the Danes and tougher than the English.
---------
So the Irish like to claim. In fact the Norwegians owned the Hebrides islands and the Orcades-Shetland-Faeroes chain, which gave them the water-road to Ireland. Ireland became a Viking piggy bank even more so than England, yielding up slaves and plunder on a regular basis. The coastal towns (all fortified) were bases used to ravage the coasts and interior. The Irish kings acted like the GOPe and refused to cooperate against Dublin until Brian Boru finally got them to play along.

The monastaries that saved the West had done their duty before the Northmen arrived though. They were the trainers and copyists who sent missionaries with scripture under arm to convert Northumbria and what is now Scotland. (The scriptures so lovingly rendered by the Irish monks were not untouched by the VIkings, but untouched by the warfare and chaos that marked the end of the Roman rule in Europe.) Those missionaries in turn built monastaries which transcribed the scriptures brought from Ireland and trained future missionaries who following the Synod of Whitby were part of the Roman rite. Saint Boniface and Alcuin were from monastaries that had been established by the Irish saints.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 23, 2016 02:20 PM (ry4ab)

319 >>My foot hurts when I walk - on the top inside where the foot bends.

Also on the arch.



Weird.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab

Heel pain?

Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (5huyv)

320 Forgot or "forgot"?

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 02:19 PM (gTQoY)


With the media, there's a difference? But I'd say forgot, without the quotes. The media are that stupid.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (z1o2c)

321 317 Well, Catholics pray to statues, or so think the
tea-totaling Southern Baptist side of my family. And more offensive
than that, Catholics have crucifixes in their Churches. How dare they
put Christ on a cross. Where on God's green earth do Catholics get that
idea from?

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:19 PM (z1o2c)

I am not a Catholic but don't think they are praying to the "object". Perhaps some Catholic Moron can answer this.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (mpXpK)

322 Simmons then turned his attention to Donald Trump, saying that until the GOP nominee came along, America had been moving toward a peaceful, loving "collective." But now, "people need to blame their discomfort on someone else," he said.

So does this mean he's anti-#BLM? RACIST!

He warned that things can change very quickly in a country under these conditions.

"What happened in Nazi Germany, or what happened in Rwanda, and Croatia, this sh*t just happened over night." He said the "growing hate" that we have in America is something we're going to have to work on "long after Trump loses the election."


Certainly one side has no problem with violent agitation and vandalism. But it's not ours. This level stupidity is baffling, even given the source.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (dtWKK)

323 >>My foot hurts when I walk - on the top inside where the foot bends.
Also on the arch.

Had similar pain with a pinched nerve once. Worn tight shoes lately?

All shoes feel tight to me after so many months of sandals...I get cranky in January when I have to wear shoes All The Time.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 02:22 PM (gTQoY)

324 317

Well...technically...

http://tinyurl.com/ja3rblx

http://tinyurl.com/jhjh22f

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:22 PM (UW4Uc)

325
PJ O'Rourke was guilty of this when he used to write of college students that once they get jobs and earn paychecks they'll give up all the hippy dippy leftism and vote GOP - because that's what happened to him.

Isn't he voting for Hillary this time?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 02:22 PM (IqV8l)

326 Actually Vic as I recall the major networks did in fact not release state projections until 11PM eastern after the 2000 fiasco. But I'm not sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 02:23 PM (QDnY+)

327

This is textbook Leftism: Make Other argue a false point.


I've told you all a thousand times already: As soon as you entertain an argument with a Lying Leftist, they've already won the argument.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:23 PM (Wpz0e)

328 39 I have noticed Wednesday night bingo has become more intense: B-17....B-17!!!!...I'll kill you all!!!!

Please, mister. please! Don't play B-17!

Posted by: Anachronda at October 23, 2016 02:23 PM (twAZ/)

329 Much better, Bungles 21-10 at the half.
I am in agreement with Donna, the SJWs have to be driven in rout and their academic breeding grounds disrupted, or the Muzzies will still make cities burn.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 23, 2016 02:23 PM (ry4ab)

330 "I saw an undocumented/linked comment somewhere that the IBD-TIPP poll had a D+ 6 (?) weighting."

It doesn't break out D/I/R %'s but it does show INDs +13% for Trump, so it has to be something like D +6% to get to Trump only up 2%. (some algebra should give the exact number). This is actually quite encouraging because strong R and IND turnout would give Trump an even bigger win than 2%.

If Rs and INDs turnout for Trump, Hillary has real challenges. The poll shows her core support is with segments likely not to turn out like they did in 2012. FFS, she's only at 75% with Blacks in this poll, while Obama got 93% in 2012 with quite high turnout.

There's a huge disparity between urban and rural with suburban splitting close to even. But urban votes tend to pile up in states already Deep Blue.

I don't know how you can look at this evidence and see a Hillary landslide. So MSM is engaged in purposeful voter suppression. Their own false and misleading polling proves it. Res ipsa loquitor, as the lawyers say ("it speaks for itself")

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (bQxkN)

331
"As soon as you argue a Lie with a Liar, you give both the Lie and Liar validity."

--Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (Wpz0e)

332 Because Ireland was more or less isolated by the ocean, their monasteries were largely untouched and their works safe from marauding invaders like the Danes.

*****


The Irish Are Quite Well Off Thank You Very Much- a limerick


They saved Western Culture I hear
So I think you can spare them your tears
They're not only healthy
But exceedingly wealthy
Their capital's been Dublin for years!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (wPiJc)

333
Remember Shih Tzu? Well, Shih Tzu is back, sharing his wisdom.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (Wpz0e)

334 For fun I googled "Trump Gettysburg speech" to see what results came up. It was 100% TRUMP THREATENS TO SUE WOMEN HE SEXUALLY ABUSED!!

Posted by: JuJuBee at October 23, 2016 02:25 PM (kma8f)

335 Up to 3 turnovers a piece in the Birds/Vikes game, Eagles winning 8 -3 on a kick off return to the house.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 02:25 PM (sWbjH)

336 Where is current Christian radicalism centered?

In front of the TV where 1/2 are currently yelling Jesus H Christ ref are you blind.

Posted by: DaveA at October 23, 2016 02:26 PM (8J/Te)

337 "As soon as you argue a Lie with a Liar, you give both the Lie and Liar validity."

I'm so borrowing that.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:26 PM (UW4Uc)

338 --Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (Wpz0e)

Who knew those yappy little dogs were sage philosophers, too?

Next, you'll be telling me Yorkshire terriers can be made into tasty dinner buns.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:26 PM (CUYn5)

339 Never liked wjc at first. Wasn't comfy with ghwb either but at that point, meh, better than clinton.
Holy shit, wake up call?
Waco. That's when the digging began.
And my journey back to God.
Things have happened since then that have truly angered me at Him but I always come down on His side and that of my brothers and sisters.
What He has in mind for me I have no idea but hope i am found worthy of pushing a broom on those streets of gold.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 02:26 PM (HddOg)

340
This is the most depressing article from today:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/723868/ Migrant-jailed-Austria-attack-boy-10-sexual-emergency-has-conviction-OVERTURNED

The infamous case of the Muslim immigrant who raped a little Austrian boy in the ass at the public swimming pool and frankly confessed because it was "a sexual emergency" just had his rape conviction overturned by the Austrian Supreme Court because (in their words) the prosecutors didn't prove that the boy hadn't in fact willingly asked to be raped.

They will literally turn their morality inside out and shred centuries of legal evolution and jettison Western civilization and also completely mock the resent "consent" movement in order to defend Muslims and only Muslims. And this isn't just "activists" doing this -- this is the Supreme Court of the most "old-fashioned" nation in Europe. If the perpetrator had been anything other than a Muslim, his sentence would have been upheld, needless to say.

Bitterly ironic detail that I did not remember from when the case first happened: The rapist had been brought to the pool by the government along with a bunch of other Muslim immigrants to "promote integration" which does NOT mean that they wanted the Muslims to get used to Austrain ways but rather that the government itself was trying to make the native Austrians get used having Muslims in the formerly "safe spaces" of Austrian society, as a way of "shocking the squares" and rubbing the native Asutrians' faces in it and saying to them "See? You're just a bunch of racists. Your Islamophobia prevents you from accepting wonderful peaceful Muslims into your midst. Here, we'll FORCE you to be half-naked with Muslims in an intimate setting to prove to you that they are safe are you are just racist." And then, of course, predictably, inescapably, the Muslim immigrants act like Muslim immigrants and rape an innocent, completely disproving forever the point of the "field trip" that the government arranged to the pool.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 02:27 PM (jBuUi)

341 And more offensive than that, Catholics have crucifixes in their Churches. How dare they put Christ on a cross.

I don't have a problem with a crucifix, but the concern isn't that he's on a cross. Its that he's still depicted on the cross, as opposed to triumphantly risen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

342 Their capital's been Dublin for years!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 23, 2016 02:24 PM (wPiJc)
------------------

A pun within a limerick. That must be worth triple Scrabble points.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (uHcnA)

343 And I got here late and am reading all the comments so I'll never catch up with you.
Now, back to begin @276.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (HddOg)

344 I am not a Catholic but don't think they are praying to the "object". Perhaps some Catholic Moron can answer this.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (mpXpK)


Vic, I went to Catholic school all the way through 12th grade. My Bohunk side of my family are firm B ampersand B Catholics (Bingo and Booze). We like to have a good time. The Southern Baptist side tries to make sure we don't.

Another part of my family are Methodists, tea-totalers, too. But at least they'll tell the occasional joke.

Always made for fun Thanksgivings when I'd break out the wine.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (z1o2c)

345 Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab

Heel pain?
Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (5huyv)

--

No, not heel pain

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (Om16U)

346 FOOLS!

Anyone who has witnessed the casseroles of death at a Lutheran basement potluck knows the truth! Christians have killed and will kill again with high fat, noodle-laden, cheesy goodness!

Not to be outdone, here comes "Grandma" with her homemade cookies of torment! Raisins with oatmeal?

I. Think. Not.



Posted by: The Moll at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (xLZWH)

347 That court just declared sex with children is legal if (a) you can make the case they didn't refuse and (b) you don't sent them to the ER.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:28 PM (UW4Uc)

348 We will take Islamic radicalism seriously when their terrorists start targeting politicians, journalists, professors and "public intellectuals."
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 23, 2016 12:06 PM (Oh/BE)


All herds need culling to remain healthy and viable. To actually improve the herds requires additional culling.

Why would Islam wish to do its enemy such a service?

Posted by: jwpaine at October 23, 2016 02:29 PM (wKcQA)

349
Another thing occurred to me late last night.

The same people who suddenly found their virtue and innocence when it was revealed that Trump said "pussy," are the same Democrats and Media who giggled like little girls when Tea Party Americans were threatened to be "tea bagged."

What's different now is back then Republicans stayed silent during this insult, not like now when they joined the puritanical chorus of phony outrage.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:29 PM (Wpz0e)

350 326
Actually Vic as I recall the major networks did in fact not release
state projections until 11PM eastern after the 2000 fiasco. But I'm not
sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 02:23 PM (QDnY+)

They called each State as soon as the polls in that State were closed and they had what they needed to make the call. They did that all the way through and then called the election for bush when he crossed the magic 270 threshold.
http://bit.ly/2e1eYSi

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

351 341

I agree. The entire soteriology there requires that He be ever-dying, not seated in glory at the right hand of the Father.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:31 PM (UW4Uc)

352 I think it should also be pointed out that even a 1 point Trump overall loss, which is in the MoE of the last Rasmussen poll I saw, is still 6 points off the Fox poll, which is likely to produce 4- 8 point shifts by state, so there could still be an 'oh shit' moment for the anchors in such a case.

Posted by: Methos at October 23, 2016 02:32 PM (3Liv/)

353 Russel Simmons' Deaf Stupidity Jam

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 02:33 PM (zc3Db)

354 347 That court just declared sex with children is legal if (a) you can make the case they didn't refuse and (b) you don't sent them to the ER.
Posted by: doomed


Ah, but the rapist DID send the kid to the ER, and also completely destroyed him psychologically.

From the article:

"The child suffered severe anal injuries which had to be treated at a local children's hospital, and is still plagued by serious post-traumatic stress disorder."

But, jaw-droppingly, the freakin' SUPREME COURT of Austrian ruled that the prosecutors "had not done enough to ascertain whether or not the rapist realised the child was saying no."

Maybe the blood spurting out of his ass would have been a clue.

Europe? Stick a fork in it.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 02:34 PM (jBuUi)

355 The Lutherans amirite? or is the Presbyterians? Its the ones that make that Jello with the fruit cocktail in it. I mean if that's not radical, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it all tastes like chicken' at October 23, 2016 02:34 PM (v9gSJ)

356 >>>All shoes feel tight to me after so many months of sandals...I get cranky in January when I have to wear shoes All The Time.


There ought to be a law against shoes. Free the feet.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at October 23, 2016 02:35 PM (dtWKK)

357 Zombie,

Yes, and that's why (if I read the news piece right early this morning) they only got him on sexual assault, not rape. It's almost as if the child's age and his injuries were incidental. Truly wicked and evil but Christ is the avenger of all such.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:36 PM (UW4Uc)

358 Da Cubs is the true religion and Wrigley is his church

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 23, 2016 02:36 PM (+vAGU)

359 I don't have a problem with a crucifix, but the concern isn't that he's on a cross. Its that he's still depicted on the cross, as opposed to triumphantly risen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)


You obviously never listened to George Carlin, going to 'Our Lady of Great Agony' grade school.

By the way, a cross is without the image of Christ, as seen in many of the 'heretical sects' churches, whereas a crucifix has the body of Christ on it. I can't remember just now if it's only Catholics that have crucifixes in their churches or not. But I know I freaked out when I was a little kid and went to a Methodist Church and the cross was naked.

Catholics be keepin' it real, yo!

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:36 PM (z1o2c)

360 I am not a Catholic but don't think they are praying to the "object". Perhaps some Catholic Moron can answer this.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 23, 2016 02:21 PM (mpXpK)
------------

No, you're right, we Catholics to not pray "to" objects. And I can tell that RickZ wasn't saying we are, he was making fun of his relatives that don't understand that.

We use statues and such as a visual reminder, to use our senses more fully, in a way.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:36 PM (uHcnA)

361 Its really a constant meme of the left about Christian jihadism. It just doesn't happen.

1/2 time Birds up 11 -3 over Vikes.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 02:37 PM (sWbjH)

362 99.99-tenths ?

Math Genius!

So almost 999% are radicalized?

Posted by: lily at October 23, 2016 02:37 PM (Qm82t)

363 US Grand Prix is starting soon.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 02:37 PM (sWbjH)

364 Official Lifetime Choom member Russell Simmons, America's greatest treasure.

Posted by: slippin' Jimmy Comey at October 23, 2016 02:38 PM (pHVJG)

365 >>No, not heel pain

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab

Is it worse when you first get up or when you first walk on it?

Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:39 PM (5huyv)

366 Didn't the Vikings found Dublin?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2016 01:59 PM (SRKgf)

Depends, can they cover kickoffs in Dublin?

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 02:39 PM (LQwOo)

367 zombie, that is a horrific story. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. That Austrian court has a lot to answer for in the eyes of God, as do all that had a hand in this evil, especially the rapist.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:40 PM (uHcnA)

368 But, jaw-droppingly, the freakin' SUPREME COURT of Austrian ruled that the prosecutors "had not done enough to ascertain whether or not the rapist realised the child was saying no."

Maybe the blood spurting out of his ass would have been a clue.

Europe? Stick a fork in it.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 02:34 PM (jBuUi)

Well, that does it! I'm going give up this useless painting gig, and start a political movement.

Posted by: Some dude in Vienna at October 23, 2016 02:40 PM (CUYn5)

369 Did you guys see this?
very awesome - watch until the end

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/789989977069228032

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:40 PM (Om16U)

370 That court just declared sex with children is legal if (a) you can make the case they didn't refuse and (b) you don't sent them to the ER.

The lesson from this is less about Austria or Islam, but our future if Hillary wins. Obama has already appointed hundreds of radical idiot judges. She'd appoint hundreds more. Its not so much the Supreme Court as the host of other judges out in the country everywhere destroying everything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)

371
Russell Simmons has made hundreds of millions of dollars preying on the black community with his merchandise (which is garbage such as shirts, hats, and hooded sweatshirts), phone cards, and high-interest credit cards, and prepaid "loadable" credit cards.

The man is a vulture.



Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:41 PM (Wpz0e)

372 Some Lutherans also use crucifixes, as a reminder of what the price of our salvation was.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:42 PM (FQKBL)

373 We use statues and such as a visual reminder, to use our senses more fully, in a way.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:36 PM (uHcnA)


More than that, how else was an artist back then going to make a living without the patronage of the Church? Now we have the National Endowment for the Arts and all that filthy taxpayer lucre.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:42 PM (z1o2c)

374 I don't have a problem with a crucifix, but the concern isn't that he's on a cross. Its that he's still depicted on the cross, as opposed to triumphantly risen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

Gotta remember it's not a symbol, it's a reminder of the passion. Jesus was slandered, tortured, and died for you. Catholics love beating the kids over the head with things. I would know.

Currently in tech for Jesus Christ Superstar and it's SUCH a great show. A sugared pill for the sjw theatre types. Really good music. Little goofy but so very good.

The end of the show is the crucifixion. He's on the cross.

Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 02:43 PM (LQwOo)

375 But I know I freaked out when I was a little kid and went to a Methodist Church and the cross was naked.
---
You should come to our church. We'll welcome you like our muslim brothers.

Posted by: The Lesbian Lutheran Bishop of Sweden at October 23, 2016 02:43 PM (3Liv/)

376 On the horrible child abuse case from Europe, it's pretty clear it's a question of whether the migrant spoke Austrian.


Every educated person knows that's a language, and it isn't spoken in the MidEast.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 23, 2016 02:43 PM (QDnY+)

377
Do you know why Russell Simmons is a Democrat?

Because, like millions of convenient store owners, he makes a lot of $$ off EBT cards.

Simmons loves welfare because he loves any program that puts $$ in poor blacks' hands because he is adroit at getting them to spend that $$ on his merch.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:43 PM (Wpz0e)

378 That court just declared sex with children is legal if (a) you can make the case they didn't refuse and (b) you don't sent them to the ER.

I think Kevin Jennings, Barky's Safe School Czar, beat them to that - though he allowed a little more leeway on both points.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 02:44 PM (zc3Db)

379 The spirit of Moloch infests Austria. Giving up it's children to be be ravaged by the followers of Shaitan.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:44 PM (Om16U)

380 #306 Exactly. I want badly to be optimistic, but after 2012 I am not setting myself up for a fall.



My faith in the essential common sense of the American voter took a massive hit on election day 2012.



Posted by: DonnaV(deplorably brandishing
ampersandsand so there at October 23, 2016 02:12 PM
(P8951)

===============Mine too, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing to believe the best will happen.
I'm just saying - as long as it doesn't preclude useful action, faith is your strength.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at October 23, 2016 02:45 PM (BcNLK)

381 Some Lutherans also use crucifixes, as a reminder of what the price of our salvation was.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:42 PM (FQKBL)


Thanks. Episcopalians (C of E), too, maybe?

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:45 PM (z1o2c)

382 Russell Simmons has made hundreds of millions of dollars preying on the black community with his merchandise (which is garbage such as shirts, hats, and hooded sweatshirts), phone cards, and high-interest credit cards, and prepaid "loadable" credit cards.

The man is a vulture.



Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:41 PM (Wpz0e)

So he's one of the drivers of ghetto "culture". And rexbatt asks why we don't know who he is? Says more about rex than it does about me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:45 PM (CUYn5)

383
rexbatt, the anti-Trump fake Republican, is here?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (Wpz0e)

384 The explanation I always got for the crucifix was yes, Christ is triumphant, but it is a reminder of the suffering He went through to redeem us. In other words, salvation ain't cheap or easy.

It's noteworthy that post VII Catholic churches often have crucifixes with a smiled, fully clothed Christ with a cross as a sort of backdrop. It's supposed to put the emphasis on the Risen Christ, but it strikes me as more happy clappy stuff from the modern church. We don't want to think about the icky way Jesus died, just as we don't really want to talk about abortion all that much - no, let's focus on "social justice" and not being ha8ers and on smiley Pope Frank.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (P8951)

385 "Catholics be keepin' it real, yo!"

"...but He, when He had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER, sat down on the right hand of God, henceforth expecting till His enemies be made the footstool of His feet. For by ONE offering He HAS perfected forever them that ARE sanctified. " Hebrews 10:12-14

That states clearly that His work of our redemption is finished. That is why He now is seated -- there was no seat in the Temple where sacrifices were performed by human priests because the work was never done. But His work is now finished, for all who will avail themselves to it.

But to keep Him nailed upon the cross (not as a mere visual representation but in actual fact according to the mass) says His redeeming work is in fact NOT done.

Only one conclusion can be drawn from this: either His work of redemption is done, or it is not. One of the two propositions is incorrect; what Hebrews teaches, or what the institution in question teaches. But both cannot be true.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (UW4Uc)

386 RickZ, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:48 PM (FQKBL)

387 More than that, how else was an artist back then going to make a living without the patronage of the Church? Now we have the National Endowment for the Arts and all that filthy taxpayer lucre.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:42 PM (z1o2c)
-----------------

Heh. And they're doling it out hand over fist to Christian artists wanting to depict traditional Christian art, I'm certain.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:49 PM (uHcnA)

388 doomed, that may be what Catholics teach, not being a Catholic, but Lutherans don't.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:50 PM (FQKBL)

389 The end of the show is the crucifixion. He's on the cross.

Again, as I said, I don't have a problem with the crucifix, but the concern is that if all Jesus did, we're still lost. He had to raise and ascend to heaven, too. So the argument is: you're leaving him hanging there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:50 PM (39g3+)

390 rexbatt, the anti-Trump fake Republican, is here?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (Wpz0e)

#177

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:51 PM (CUYn5)

391 Is it worse when you first get up or when you first walk on it?

Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:39 PM (5huyv)

When I walk - I think it hurts when I straighten out my foot (for example point my toes)

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:51 PM (Om16U)

392
The last thing you ever want to do is compare Christianity to Islam. You might as well compare Christianity to Global Warming.

When the shit-head pope has his "inter-faith" meetings with muslims, all he does is greatly diminish Catholicism and Christianity.

Muslims, as a religious people, do not deserve any respect. Ever. As a political ideology, Islam is another story.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:52 PM (Wpz0e)

393 Royalty and the very wealthy merchants were also the biggest patrons of artists. The painting from the book thread was such and paited for a castle in Italy.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 02:52 PM (sWbjH)

394 I am a White, Western Jewish man. My opinion and life has zero worth in Simmons' twisted world.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:00 PM

For the Russell Simmonses of the world you are an expendable meatlump to be sacrificed if need be to maintain their illusion of Fantasy Islam.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 23, 2016 02:53 PM (J8/9G)

395 More than that, how else was an artist back then going to make a living without the patronage of the Church?

Princes and kings. Most patrons weren't the church, by the Renaissance, it was rich merchants and nobility showing off how very wealthy and classy they were by having the house artist. I mean, we are amazed by the great works of art, but imagine what impact they had when you were invited up to the castle and it was hanging there for the first time in human history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:53 PM (39g3+)

396 I hope and pray the Trump optimists are right. I'm not seeing it but I do work in the peoples republic of Boulder for an outfit funded by the government.

But I begged folks to share the story debunking the Matt Shepherd myth of homophobia rather than meth leading to his violent killing to push back against a Hillary commercial Matts mom did and crickets. And too many people even here, on our much more informed blog, and with months to get over the primary battle and the positive Trump actions of Pence for VP, Heritage list for pool of SC picks etc. still will not vote for that playboy billionaire and reality TV star. "I might write someone in, wont vote for the hag or the stoner either but I still cant vote for Trump"

Posted by: PaleRider at October 23, 2016 02:53 PM (Jen0I)

397
You really are deplorable. If we don't make it through the next month: t's been an honor.


Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 23, 2016 01:09 PM (LQwOo)

The Order of the Knights Deplorable

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:53 PM (Om16U)

398
So, in conclusion...

the world needs an enema.

/thread.


Now let's talk about how shitty the NFL is.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 02:53 PM (Wpz0e)

399 Rexbatt?

Soros septic tank is running dry.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 02:54 PM (89T5c)

400 doomed, that may be what Catholics teach, not being a Catholic, but Lutherans don't.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:50 PM (FQKBL)
----------------

Catholics don't teach that either. Doomed, we have plenty of depictions of the risen Christ as well. And every Mass is considered a "mini Easter."

And as I have no desire to get into further discussion of this sort, I am going to go visit my student who has been sick for three weeks. See you all later on the food thread!

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2016 02:54 PM (uHcnA)

401 Meanwhile,

http://louderwithcrowder.com/vanderbilt-football-star-rape-was-payback-for-400-years-of-slavery/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (39g3+)

402 Prager is one who believes both Cristian and Jewish faiths have been compromised by the left which promote Islam as a mutual enemy of Western civilization.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (sWbjH)

403 379 The spirit of Moloch infests Austria. Giving up it's children to be be ravaged by the followers of Shaitan.
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:44 PM (Om16U)

Let's see, the Austrians were among the most enthusiastic followers of Hitler. Something like 50% of SS men were Austrian After the war, they pretended to be Hitler's "first victim" which was horseshit.

So I can understand why they would have some guilt. Letting in Muslims who hate the Jews as much as the Nazis did and permitting them to destroy your country and culture is hardly the way to deal with it though.

Funny, the Europeans were frightened as hell that the Jews, who made huge contributions to European culture, were actually destroying it. The Muzzies really are, they contribute nothing (think we'll see the Muzzie equivalent of an Einstein, a Heine, or a Mendelssohn? Me neither.) and yet the Euro masses are told to shut up and offer up their hindquarters to the "refugees."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (P8951)

404 Again, as I said, I don't have a problem with the crucifix, but the concern is that if all Jesus did, we're still lost. He had to raise and ascend to heaven, too. So the argument is: you're leaving him hanging there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:50 PM (39g3+)

You are getting lost in the weeds, Christopher. Here's all you need to know: Christians worship God, and Jesus is of God. Muslims worship Satan, although they call him allah, because that's name he used when he sucked them in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (CUYn5)

405 Russel Shimons is he tha Jewish exercise guy with short shorts an no balls peace prizes.. or the dead guy....HARD to keep up with tha all along the PEACE TOWER folks shrug> Rick Nastley reporting rickrolled....

Posted by: saf at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (+zN6H)

406 "So the argument is: you're leaving him hanging there."

That's the point of the purported sacrifice of the mass.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (UW4Uc)

407 Only one conclusion can be drawn from this: either His work of redemption is done, or it is not. One of the two propositions is incorrect; what Hebrews teaches, or what the institution in question teaches. But both cannot be true.
Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (UW4Uc)

Perhaps you misunderstand the theology of the crucifix.

At the Catholic Mass, Christ is not recrucified. He has done this, once and for all, and it is complete, as you say. OTOH, He told us very clearly to "do this in remembrance of me." Either we believe His directives, or we do not. As a Catholic, I believe Him.

We do not crucify Him again, we re-present it, meaning that we engage with the one, true death of Christ. This takes place outside of space and time. It is not a repetition in any way. We join with the original death and resurrection, we do not celebrate it happening again.

As Bishop Sheen said, people despise what they think the Catholic Church is, but nobody despises what the Catholic Church really is.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 02:55 PM (cm1Bl)

408 Should i or shouldn't I?
Nope. People will take it personal.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 02:56 PM (HddOg)

409 Only one conclusion can be drawn from this: either His work of redemption is done, or it is not. One of the two propositions is incorrect; what Hebrews teaches, or what the institution in question teaches. But both cannot be true.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (UW4Uc)


See this response:

We don't want to think about the icky way Jesus died,

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:47 PM (P8951)


This is something that always troubled me: The Southern Baptist contingent in my family believe that all you have to do on your death bed is accept Christ, no matter how shitty you were one minute before you died, and, BINGO!, you're saved. While Catholics believe in the redemption/accepting Christ part, they also tend to believe you have to atone for your sins. Pain is part of being a Catholic. I should know, I had nuns with rulers, pointers and yardsticks teach me, and they knew how to multitask those implements.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:56 PM (z1o2c)

410 Beat him with a metal pipe. See if he knows how to say "No".

The prosecution rests.

Posted by: t-bird at October 23, 2016 02:56 PM (ysprU)

411 Radical Christianity means, for me, willingness to follow Christ at all cost. For some that might mean willingness to die rather than forsake Christ. It does not mean eagerness to murder for Christ. There seem to be a lot of Muslims who are eager to murder for Mohammed.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 23, 2016 02:57 PM (icaH7)

412 My opinion and life has zero worth in Simmons' twisted world.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:00 PM


I would say that that's fair. Simmons' opinion and life have zero worth in my world. I really could not care less what he thinks about anything. He loves islam? Good for him. He can have it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 02:57 PM (zc3Db)

413 When I walk - I think it hurts when I straighten out my foot (for example point my toes)

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:51 PM (Om16U)

Sounds like plantar fasciitis, an inflammation the large bundle of tendons passing through the arch of your foot. I had it. It was painful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 02:57 PM (CUYn5)

414 I can't believe we are having a theological discussion on a Sunday.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 02:58 PM (Om16U)

415 It's sort of like 'racist' allegations - after awhile the recipient begins to wonder if it's such a bad thing after all. Why not act radicalized since that seems to be the only way that people pay attention and the only way to get your world view accepted by politicians.

Posted by: rabidfox at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (EW9tX)

416 >>Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab

May still be plantar fasciitis even without the heel pain. Rest, muscle stretching and NSAIDs.

No doctor patient relationship established, see a IRL medical provider etc, etc, etc.

Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (5huyv)

417 You are getting lost in the weeds, Christopher.

... some days I despair. I mean you can say something repeatedly in plain English, but people skim over it and decide what they figured you said and respond to that.

I mean, as an author, that's deeply disturbing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

418 Way late to this party but the rest of the 99% of Muslims don't have to be radicalized in order to SUPPORT jihad via their religious donations.
According to their own koran, 1/8th of EVERY penny they give to their mosques goes to ''support holy warriors.''
those are literally, mujahadeen,'' or jihadists in arabic.
The ''zagat'' (spelling varies) is like the Catholic tithe.
ALL Muslims must give.
And 1/8th of the zagat MUST go to support holy warriors, jihadists.

So, all those passive Muslims are laughing at Russel and his ilk.

Posted by: Nan Gladden at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (BJd/X)

419 I just ate a big Waldorf chicken salad for lunch, with lots of grapes and apples and walnuts. I feel much better.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:00 PM (P8951)

420 No doctor patient relationship established, see a IRL medical provider etc, etc, etc.
Posted by: Aviator at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (5huyv)




thanks!

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:00 PM (Om16U)

421 PJ O'Rourke was guilty of this when he used to write of college students that once they get jobs and earn paychecks they'll give up all the hippy dippy leftism and vote GOP - because that's what happened to him. I knew more than one conservative in the '80's and 90's who said the same.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 02:08 PM (P8951)


Well, that's kind of the story of my voting history.

In my lame defense, there were less obvious divisions between Democrats and Republicans around 1980, at least in Texas. Before Jimmy Carter went Loony Tunes, he worked hard to appeal to evangelical voters.

In Texas, only the most populated counties had a choice between Republican and Democratic candidates until the mid-eighties or nineties. Usually, the choice was between a conservative Democrat and a slightly less conservative Democrat.

The last Democrat I voted for was Senator Lloyd Bentsen in 1992. I still don't regret my vote. Clinton tapped Bentsen to serve in his administration and Bentsen resigned after only a few months. He was smart and decent enough to recognize that Clinton was a crook.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT at October 23, 2016 03:00 PM (nvMvs)

422
oh dear

are we about to reignite to Great AoS Salad Wars: Cobb vs Waldorf?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:01 PM (Wpz0e)

423 372 Some Lutherans also use crucifixes, as a reminder of what the price of our salvation was.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2016 02:42 PM (FQKBL)
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Yes, traditional Lutherans and Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, and Roman Catholics --- IOW, the vast majority of Christians today and throughout time.

They also depict Jesus as a baby in a manger; as a carpenter or fisherman; as a preacher/teacher; as risen in glory, Kings of Kings; as a heavenly judge; as a loving shepherd.

The chief symbol of Christianity from earliest times has been the cross, an instrument of torture. I'm not sure that replacing it with Happy Face is a good idea. YMMV.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:02 PM (Nox3c)

424 407

If a man's eventual salvation depends upon partaking of the mass, can he say the work of his redemption and sanctification (per Hebrews 10 and elsewhere) is finished?

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:02 PM (UW4Uc)

425 321 and 317 -
Catholics don't 'worship" the statues anymore than people who keep photos of their deceased spouse or parents in their homes in full view do. We ask the saints to intercede to God on our behalf and the pictures and statues are a visual aid, besides being beautiful expressions of art.

The statues and pictures remind us of their inspirational stories, too. St. Anthony of Padua, for instance, was such a powerful and persuasive speaker that after his sermons, thieves would return the property they stole. (Why do you think he's the patron of "lost" items?)

Much Catholic art was created to communicate dogma or tell a Gospel story or religious story to people who couldn't read. In the process, Catholic artworks are amazing and beautiful works and the best of them convey deep understanding of humanity. Da Vinci's Madonna and Child with St. Anne is one of the most moving and beautiful expressions of maternal love ever for instance.

Posted by: vivi at October 23, 2016 03:03 PM (11H2y)

426 I'm not sure that replacing it with Happy Face is a good idea. YMMV.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:02 PM (Nox3c)


'Buddy Christ', from the movie 'Dogma'.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:04 PM (z1o2c)

427 ... some days I despair. I mean you can say something repeatedly in plain English, but people skim over it and decide what they figured you said and respond to that.

I mean, as an author, that's deeply disturbing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

No, I am not skimming over it. You are obsessed with the various symbologies used by different branches of Christianity. I'm telling you, that stuff doesn't matter, and it sure as Hell doesn't matter to a scimitar-wielding jihadi who wants to lop your head off because you don't poke your ass in the air while facing mecca.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 03:05 PM (CUYn5)

428 Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 02:27 PM (jBuUi)

There are lots of lampposts that are just begging to be decorated by currently-serving politicians.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 03:06 PM (sdi6R)

429
frozen chicken review?

Tyson has a frozen chicken strips in a bag. Very convenient for making salads or whatever. They offer an Applewood Smoke flavor -- very good.


They're fajita flavor is also good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:06 PM (Wpz0e)

430 418 - I have heard that some Muslims consider welfare and other benefits as the tax that dhimmis must pay to them.

Posted by: vivi at October 23, 2016 03:06 PM (11H2y)

431 Have to flip between the football game and the race. Hamilton and Birds are ahead.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:06 PM (sWbjH)

432 But to keep Him nailed upon the cross (not as a mere visual representation but in actual fact according to the mass) says His redeeming work is in fact NOT done. "

But no Catholic believes Christ was left nailed on the cross and that's the end of the story.

It's like Catholics believe that Jesus never grew out of infancy because we have paintings of Mary and Baby Jesus.

We celebrate Easter just like you do.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:07 PM (P8951)

433
Be warned, though: Applewood Smoke flavor may cause gas.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:07 PM (Wpz0e)

434 427

I don't know about Taylor but I disagree with you, politely and calmly but strenuously.

The real bottom line issue here is competing, contradictory gospels of salvation. God is not the author of confusion, so two (or more) contradictory plans of salvation CANNOT both be true at the same time. Either one is false, or both are. But they aren't both correct.

That's the real issue here. It means someone is very, eternally wrong (unless one is a universalist, in which case nothing matters anyway).

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (UW4Uc)

435 are we about to reignite to Great AoS Salad Wars: Cobb vs Waldorf?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:01 PM (Wpz0e)

Caesar

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (Om16U)

436 Since we're hijacking a thread with religion on a Sunday, are Catholics the only Christian sect which reveres Mary, puts her up on a pedestal? We even have a prayer directly to her, which every football and Gen. Schwartzkopf fan knows the name of. The Feast of The Assumption is also a big deal.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (z1o2c)

437
caesar salad is meatless, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (Wpz0e)

438 If a man's eventual salvation depends upon partaking of the mass, can he say the work of his redemption and sanctification (per Hebrews 10 and elsewhere) is finished?
Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:02 PM (UW4Uc)

If you do not eat of my flesh and drink my blood....

Perhaps you misread those Scriptures. I notice that many Evangelical Protestants do not take Jesus literally when he states that you must "do this in memory of me."

Jesus Christ is, indeed, done redeeming us. We, OTOH, are not done "working out our salvation in fear and trembling." Most Evangelicals think that simply assenting in words to Jesus' invitation is enough, no matter what they may do or say outside of that single event. And yet, the greater part of the Gospels and Paul's Epistles are full of instructions about how we must orient our entire lives toward Christ. It is not Christ who must continue to save, but we who must work to truly think, act and live according to His instructions. It is not a case of simply saying "yes" ( an action) but of doing "yes" (also an action).

And when Christ tells us to receive him (physically, as in the Mass), then it behooves us to do so.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (cm1Bl)

439 437
caesar salad is meatless, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (Wpz0e)

Anchovies.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:10 PM (cm1Bl)

440
Judges, are anchovies a meat?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:11 PM (Wpz0e)

441 The real bottom line issue here is competing, contradictory gospels of salvation. God is not the author of confusion, so two (or more) contradictory plans of salvation CANNOT both be true at the same time. Either one is false, or both are. But they aren't both correct.

That's the real issue here. It means someone is very, eternally wrong (unless one is a universalist, in which case nothing matters anyway).

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (UW4Uc)

We are on the Titanic. The hull is holed, it's taking on water, and will sink if we cannot manage to fix it, and you want to argue about the nature and quality of the rivets holding down the deck planks? Alright, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 03:12 PM (CUYn5)

442
Europe? Stick a fork in it.
Posted by: zombie


U.S.A. soon to follow.
You can hold your head as high as you wish.
It won't make any difference.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 23, 2016 03:12 PM (IqV8l)

443 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Posted by: Isaiah 5:20 at October 23, 2016 03:12 PM (/cZgr)

444 Anchovies= no meat

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:13 PM (89T5c)

445 As a Protestant I never got the saint thing. I get they were great people for the church but it ends there for me.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:13 PM (sWbjH)

446 I didn't realize how lucky I am to be alive, I had to drive through a large Quaker community and hired some Amish workers. I never realized I was living my life on the edge. One wrong word and pow it would have all been over. I'm demanding that the FBI investigate the local Baptist church they at always meeting behind closed doors Wednesday and Sunday nights along with Sunday morning. I see a lot of cars and trucks in front of the Methodist church: they must be planning something!

Posted by: jhaley59 at October 23, 2016 03:14 PM (f4z3u)

447 Heaven is real
Hell is hot
Mohammed is dead
Jesus is not

Posted by: ALH at October 23, 2016 03:14 PM (Z56vq)

448 7 I dont know. My church is pretty radicalized. The Chili for Charity cookoff in a couple weeks could get ugly.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 23, 2016 12:03 PM (Kge8X)

Beans vs all meat! Beef vs pork! Tomato vs vinegar! Wet vs dry!

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 03:14 PM (brIR5)

449 Anchovies= no meat

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:13 PM (89T5c)

Anchovies = plankton that got too big for its britches.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 03:14 PM (CUYn5)

450 436 Since we're hijacking a thread with religion on a Sunday, are Catholics the only Christian sect which reveres Mary, puts her up on a pedestal? We even have a prayer directly to her, which every football and Gen. Schwartzkopf fan knows the name of. The Feast of The Assumption is also a big deal.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (z1o2c)
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Eastern Orthodoxy also.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:14 PM (Nox3c)

451 caesar salad is meatless, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (Wpz0e)
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Anchovies.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:10 PM (cm1Bl)


Garum was a fish sauce in ancient Rome, usually made out of anchovies. Hence the name 'Caesar salad'.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:15 PM (z1o2c)

452 ALH i like that

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:15 PM (sWbjH)

453 There is one Lord, one faith and one baptism.

Posted by: ALH at October 23, 2016 03:15 PM (Z56vq)

454 You're welcome, Skip. It's something I saw on Facebook.

Posted by: ALH at October 23, 2016 03:16 PM (Z56vq)

455 Eagles up by 15, Hamilton up 5.260 seconds

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:16 PM (sWbjH)

456 432

Again, either His work of our redemption and sanctification is forever done, or it isn't. Meaning one is, by virtue of His work, fully justified and sanctified before God (as the apostle Paul taught), or he is not. There's no middle ground there; one is or he isn't.

Also, one has either availed himself (or herself) to His finished work, or he/she has not. Again, no middle ground.

I am 100% justified and sanctified by God, by virtue of NOTHING in myself but only because I've believed the Gospel of the grace of God (1 Cor 15:1-4...Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose the third day for our justification). That's what Paul told the Corinthian believers had saved them when they believed it. I believe as they did, so God's Word says I'm saved and forever safe in Christ.

Do you believe the same is true for you? I ask because my understanding is that your church (Council of Trent) has officially forbidden Catholics from saying that they KNOW they're saved and forever safe in Christ, even though Paul says all can be. Is that your understanding as well?

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (UW4Uc)

457 436 Since we're hijacking a thread with religion on a Sunday, are Catholics the only Christian sect which reveres Mary, puts her up on a pedestal? We even have a prayer directly to her, which every football and Gen. Schwartzkopf fan knows the name of. The Feast of The Assumption is also a big deal.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (z1o2c)

This thread started with the topic of "radicallized" Christians. Nobody hijacked it.

Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

I knew a priest who once said that Protestants take Mary out of the closet around Christmas time and dust her off, and then return her come Epiphany.

We revere Mary because without her fiat (yes) to the Angel Gabriel, we would have no savior. Jesus took his humanity from her body, and while she carried Him in her womb, she was the tabernacle of God.

Catholics are pretty serious about the Communion of Saints and the Church Triumphant, meaning those who are in Heaven and see the face of God. We are part of that same Church, since the Church herself is one. So, we pray that the saints would intercede on our behalf with Christ. Mary is in Heaven, so we can pray that she speak with her Son.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (cm1Bl)

458 True confession: I like anchovies

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (Om16U)

459 How exactly are the Vikings undefeated up till today?

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH)

460 441

The Titanic won't sail into eternity in any event. Our souls will. Forgive my having a longer perspective on this.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (UW4Uc)

461 Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (cm1Bl)


The Coptics are older, by a lot.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:19 PM (zc3Db)

462 Notice Koran and Mein Kampf both start with the K sound?
Hmmmmmm?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:20 PM (Om16U)

463 As I noted a couple of weeks ago, do you really think Catholics are going to be punished by a Jewish carpenter because they spoke too highly of His mother?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:20 PM (P8951)

464 @461 Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (cm1Bl)

The Coptics are older, by a lot.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:19 PM (zc3Db)


And the various Orthodox denominations would disagree as well.

Posted by: junior at October 23, 2016 03:20 PM (nlPsL)

465 How exactly are the Vikings undefeated up till today?
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH)

Because up till today, they were playing very well. Their five victories were not flukes, they beat teams like the Packers, the Giants, the Panthers. But I think injuries are taking their toll.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 23, 2016 03:21 PM (hhV+y)

466 Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (cm1Bl)


Yeah, well, I didn't want to ask about the 'heathens'.

I also am amazed at how many, including Catholics, do not know to whom the Immaculate Conception referred.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:22 PM (z1o2c)

467 Yeah, watch out for the gals holding a chaplet with the shiga wire strings.

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 12:37 PM (JBggj)

Two points for the Dune reference.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 03:22 PM (brIR5)

468 Catholics, Protestants, can't we just unite under one Crusader banner?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:22 PM (Om16U)

469 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:19 PM (zc3Db)

The Apostolic Succession is traced back to Peter - whose tomb is in the Vatican.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:22 PM (P8951)

470 @466....Franco Harris' catch against the Oakland Raiders. Duh.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 03:24 PM (n3MnG)

471 Posted by: junior at October 23, 2016 03:20 PM (nlPsL)

And the original, original Christians were a sect of Judaism - the Christian Jews - which lasted for some time until they totally split off.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:24 PM (zc3Db)

472 Votermom we better or fall under the caliphate

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:24 PM (sWbjH)

473 468 Catholics, Protestants, can't we just unite under one Crusader banner?
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:22 PM (Om16U)

Well, that's what I'm thinking. The Christian wars of religion were fought centuries ago. The Baptist dude who thinks Mary was nothing special is not my enemy.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:25 PM (P8951)

474 434
That's the real issue here. It means someone is very, eternally wrong (unless one is a universalist, in which case nothing matters anyway).
Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM
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Let's just pretend, against all evidence, that you have any serious knowledge of Catholic or Orthodox theology. And let's stipulate that I am "very, eternally wrong" and bound for hell.

So what? I will not force my hellish views on you or your children. I will not behead you if you stray from them. I will not get you fired, destroy your bakery, and incite mobs against you.
And you won't do those things to me either.

The Left wants to destroy BOTH of us.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:26 PM (Nox3c)

475 And the original, original Christians were a sect of Judaism - the Christian Jews - which lasted for some time until they totally split off.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:24 PM (zc3Db)

Yes, we know that from the Acts of the Apostles.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:26 PM (P8951)

476 Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

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Never the religion "alone" if referring to Christianity.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 03:26 PM (NUqwG)

477 Franco Harris' catch against the Oakland Raiders. Duh.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 03:24 PM (n3MnG)


Yeah, I'm sure that play was executed as conceived. But it was a great party in the end zone, a wonderful reception and a good time was had by all (except Raiders' fans).

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:27 PM (z1o2c)

478 Just got back from the city dump. It reminded me of the Islamic world, only cleaner.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 23, 2016 03:27 PM (IcT7t)

479 All Christians should have recognized years ago to band together. If you believe in Christ, you are under siege.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:27 PM (89T5c)

480 And you won't do those things to me either.



The Left wants to destroy BOTH of us.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille

However, the Peoples Front of Judea isn't worth spitting on if they were on fire!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 23, 2016 03:28 PM (8ikIW)

481 Do you believe the same is true for you? I ask because my understanding is that your church (Council of Trent) has officially forbidden Catholics from saying that they KNOW they're saved and forever safe in Christ, even though Paul says all can be. Is that your understanding as well?
Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:17 PM (UW4Uc)

Until you read the documents of the Council of Trent, you will continue to misunderstand what was codified there. No Catholic is ever "forbidden" anything. We have free will, just as you do.

I realize that you will continue to argue that one point, once saved always saved, because upon that one point your entire system of belief rests. But here is my question. If someone has claimed to be saved by taking Jesus Christ as his or her personal savior, and then goes on to be a complete ass, do you then claim that the altar call was somehow invalid? How then, do you know that what you have said about claiming Christ is good enough, complete enough, full enough to guarantee your salvation?

Try reading the Epistle of James. He points quite clearly to a lived faith, one that includes the works that prove that faith is, indeed, true. I don't believe that James stands in opposition to Paul, but YMMV. If you believe that your stance is Bible based, then perhaps it needs to be nuanced by all of the Bible and not just a few lines taken out of context.

Then take a look at the Early Church Fathers, all of whom point to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as essential to Christian praxis.

You don't ever have to believe as a Catholic, because you have free will, God given. I don't begin to think I am somehow converting you, and I'm not going to try. But please understand that your polemics here are contrived, and I expect that more than a few folks are tired of being told how their religion is somehow "false." I can explain Catholicism to you, but I can't make you believe it any more than your arguements are going to make me believe that Catholicism got it wrong.

Time to take a chill pill and enjoy God's gift of the day.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:29 PM (cm1Bl)

482 116 Didn't Hillary Clinton laugh when Trump mentioned homosexuals being tossed from roof tops? She's pretty radical, but I'm sure if she's a Christian or a Satanist.
Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2016 12:58 PM (cyoBN)

As an Alinskyite, the choice is obvious.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 03:30 PM (brIR5)

483 I took a look at the ABC poll that shows Hillary +12%. The headline is Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead,
Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump. (And he still beats his wife!)

Note that this is a brand new tracking poll. There are several obvious inconsistencies compared to the IBD tracking poll. e.g., the ABC poll has IND +8% for Hillary but the IBD poll has it +13% for Trump. INDs will be something like a third of actual voters so this is no small difference.

At least one of these polls is badly flawed.

But the IBD poll is ignored while the ABC poll generates banners and headlines.

"I love the smell of bullshit in the morning ... It smells like victory."

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 23, 2016 03:30 PM (bQxkN)

484 459 How exactly are the Vikings undefeated up till today?
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH)
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Well, as we were saying somewhere in this thread, they had this settlement at Dublin and then.....

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:30 PM (Nox3c)

485 All Christians should have recognized years ago to band together. If you believe in Christ, you are under siege.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:27 PM (89T5c)


Honestly, though, I don't want a snake handler in my foxhole. The other guy's foxhole? Sure, but not mine.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:30 PM (z1o2c)

486 "I also am amazed at how many, including Catholics, do not know to whom the Immaculate Conception referred."

Obama?

Posted by: LIV at October 23, 2016 03:32 PM (Ha50C)

487 However, the Peoples Front of Judea isn't worth spitting on if they were on fire!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 23, 2016 03:28 PM (8ikIW)


There's an old joke ...

A ship happens upon an island and finds an old Jewish guy who's been stranded there for 30 years. The old guy shows them around his island and everything he's done over the time. He built a grass house, a gym, a little observatory out of palm branches ... even a synagogue. When he's finished showing them his impressive work the captain points to the distance where there's another building and asks him what it is.

"Oh, that's another synagogue."

"Another synagogue? Why do you need two synagogues?"

"Oh, I wouldn't be caught dead in that one."




Jewish humor ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:32 PM (zc3Db)

488 Meanwhile in Iraq the Shiites just banned alcohol. Because it's against the Constitution of Iraq which mandates Islam as the national religion.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2016 03:32 PM (RYQWR)

489 459 How exactly are the Vikings undefeated up till today?
Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH)
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Well, as we were saying somewhere in this thread, they had this settlement at Dublin and then.....


My understanding is that after the Vikings abondoned thier settlements in Greenland the score is North America 1, Vikings 0.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 23, 2016 03:33 PM (IcT7t)

490 473

That ain't me but I do know the last recorded words of Mary were to listen to her Son and do what He said. The thing is, most people take that as the content of the four Gospel accounts, which is true.

But her son spoke again, from glory, by His Spirit, thorough the apostles; preeminently Paul, singularly identified as the apostle to the Gentiles. That's us. Peter, James, John, et al were identified as apostles to the circumcision (see Galatians ch. 2 where they agreed to this). Paul, to the uncircumcision...us.

So since God does not author confusion among His own, and since Christ Himself sat down and personally penned not one Word of the Bible but had men do it...that tells me if I want to know what He wants ME to know, I have to go primarily to the one He sent to address me, a dog gentile, a stranger from the promises and covenants of Israel (note who Peter addressed at the opening of his letters).

That messenger for me -- and for you -- is the apostle Paul, whose saving Gospel is of pure grace by faith, without works (Eph 2:8-9).

Just wanted you to know where I'm coming from should we continue to converse.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:33 PM (UW4Uc)

491 Gutierrez is out of the race for Hass.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:34 PM (sWbjH)

492 A poll taken by the residents of Jericho shows that 51% believe they Joshua and the Hebrews can be repelled.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 23, 2016 03:34 PM (n3MnG)

493 Poor Russell Simmons, he wouldn't even be here had not some Muslim slavers captured and sold his ancestors into slavery.

I know of no Christian radicals who number in the hundreds of millions, while Islam does, although, it's probably in the billions.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at October 23, 2016 03:34 PM (kXoT0)

494 479 All Christians should have recognized years ago to band together. If you believe in Christ, you are under siege.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:27 PM (89T5c)
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AMEN.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:34 PM (Nox3c)

495 >>.Franco Harris' catch against the Oakland Raiders. Duh.

>>We even have a prayer directly to her, which every football and Gen. Schwartzkopf fan knows the name of

Taking bets on when the NFL players start protesting these terms.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 03:34 PM (gTQoY)

496 481

Not being forbidden things by Trent and Trent saying "if anyone _____, let him be anathema" don't add up.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:36 PM (UW4Uc)

497 I have to say, this has been an enjoyable discussion. Thanks to all.

Oh, and Catholics did learn something from the Jews: Guilt.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:36 PM (z1o2c)

498 Judges, are anchovies a meat?


*****


You ask, Are anchovies a meat?
Izaak Walton says they can't be beat!
They're bite-sized fishes
(Though salty, delicious!)
They'll make any angler compleat!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 23, 2016 03:36 PM (wPiJc)

499 Oh, and Catholics did learn something from the Jews: Guilt.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:36 PM (z1o2c)

Yom Kippur vs. the weekly Confessional.

I'd say Catholics took that to the max.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (cm1Bl)

500 So Simmons is a complete idiot, I think I already knew that, and other idiots listen to him. See where we are headed?

Posted by: jimveejr at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (X5L6l)

501 Catholicism is not a sect. It was the original, the first, the "religion" alone until the 16th century.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic


That's not exactly accurate.

At first, between 33 AD and about 325 AD, there was no central organized "official" version of Christianity. There were instead an extremely wide variety of different flavors of Christianity sprouting up all over the Roman Empire -- what one might call "sects" or "versions" of early Christianity. Even though the Emperors had at various points made Christianity the religion of the Empire, and even though the Bishops had all met previously to get it all "straightened out," the different versions of Christianity still continued to flourish in different areas of Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, etc.

And then, finally, in 325 AD, they held the Council of Nicea, and finally most Bishops agreed to regularize Christian beliefs and rituals into a commonly recognized "catholic" version (originally in the standard definition of the term, "catholic" meaning "applicable to everyone"). It was only even much later that "catholic" got capitalized and became the name for this universal version of Christian belief.

So it's true that Catholicism was never a sect, but it wasn't the original version of Christianity either -- it wasn't even formulated until Christianity had been around for 300 years.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (jBuUi)

502 The next time an atheist coexister brings up the crusades, remind them that the crusades were a response to islamic savagery....killing all the men, raping all the women and raping a brainwashing the children.

to this day muslims have no problem with murder, rape and kidnapping.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 23, 2016 03:38 PM (18h+i)

503 Yom Kippur vs. the weekly Confessional.

I'd say Catholics took that to the max.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (cm1Bl)


So we went a little overboard. Used to give us something to do on a Saturday.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:38 PM (z1o2c)

504 My understanding is that after the Vikings abondoned thier settlements in Greenland the score is North America 1, Vikings 0.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 23, 2016 03:33 PM (IcT7t)
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Protest filed. With the abandonment of Vinland, the Norse were left at 0-2 but the Danish settlement of Greenland leaves them 1-2.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 03:39 PM (NUqwG)

505 So it's true that Catholicism was never a sect, but it wasn't the original version of Christianity either -- it wasn't even formulated until Christianity had been around for 300 years.
Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (jBuUi)

And yet, we have a list of Popes that goes directly back to St. Peter. So, while there was disagreement upon exactly how to be a good Christian, there was, in fact, the Church, extant from the time of Christ.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:39 PM (cm1Bl)

506
But that's the thing -- Simmons may be an idiot, but he's smarter than the millions of blacks who look up to him.

"In the Land Of The Dumb, the slighlty-less dumb man is king."
--Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:40 PM (Wpz0e)

507 Yom Kippur vs. the weekly Confessional.

I'd say Catholics took that to the max.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:37 PM (cm1Bl)


Yom Kippur is just official. The Jewish mother is there (in person or on the phone) every day.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:40 PM (zc3Db)

508 As I pointed out above somewhere the crusades ended around 1200 ad, Islam has yet to stop.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 03:40 PM (sWbjH)

509 to this day muslims have no problem with murder, rape and kidnapping.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 23, 2016 03:38 PM (18h+i)


Muzzies are just following the example of their founder, Ol' Mo the psychopath, the bestest example of man to mankind for all time.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:41 PM (z1o2c)

510 If you believe in your heart the Lord Jesus Christ and confess with your mouth that God has raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
So, if on their death bed someone comes to true belief and confesses the same they become a child of God and their name written in the book of life. No matter what they've done.
If not then Jesus lied to the thief on the cross when he told Him today you will be with me in paradise.

And yes, while I can't speak for all churches, I've never attended one that didn't partake in the memory of Christ's broken body and blood.
Generally once a month.
But we also believe we don't have to go through saint's and priests to talk to God. Because of what He did for us we can walk right into the Holy of Homies crawl up on His lap and talk to Him about anything. Confess to Him what we've done and ask for His forgiveness and it is freely given. No saints needed.
And NO human substitutes for Him here on earth.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 03:41 PM (HddOg)

511 504
Protest filed. With the abandonment of Vinland, the Norse were left at 0-2 but the Danish settlement of Greenland leaves them 1-2.
Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 03:39 PM (NUqwG)
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The replay overturned that and gave them two extra points for Iceland, IIRC. That makes it 3-2.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:42 PM (Nox3c)

512
Another thing you must realize is that guest celerys go on tv "news" shows to lie, along with the host, to the audience.

If you turn on CNN and msnbc right now, you'll see a host and a couple of guests all lying about Trump and lying (positively) about hillary clinton.

They know they're lying -- it's all about getting out a message.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:43 PM (Wpz0e)

513 Margarita DeVille,

Do you at least acknowledge my point that, with incompatible plans of salvation and God not the author of confusion, someone here HAS to be wrong? You didn't address that point (though you quoted it) but it is the logical conclusion, isn't it? Anyone with ANY strong belief, about ANYTHING, thinks whoever disagrees is wrong. So I don't understand how am I out of line for pointing out this simple fact. Someone here IS wrong...MUST be wrong.

Can any Catholic here agree with me on at least that much?


Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (UW4Uc)

514 Janet Jackson in Islamic dress.
I didn't know she married a Muz

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/janet-jackson-spotted-first-time-9106989

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (Om16U)

515 But we also believe we don't have to go through saint's and priests to talk to God.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 03:41 PM (HddOg)


Catholics also can pray directly to God. We just like to hedge our bets with Mary and the Saints. (And no Elton John jokes. The veal sucks.)

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (z1o2c)

516 Oops, did I embiggen the thread?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (Om16U)

517 Holy of Homies


*****


Heh.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 23, 2016 03:45 PM (wPiJc)

518 And yet, we have a list of Popes that goes directly back to St. Peter. So, while there was disagreement upon exactly how to be a good Christian, there was, in fact, the Church, extant from the time of Christ.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic/i]

Ah, but the early popes prior to 325 AD, weren't really "popes" as we think of them today:

"It seems that at first the terms "episcopos" and "presbyter" were used interchangeably. The consensus among scholars has been that, at the turn of the 1st and 2nd centuries, local congregations were led by bishops and presbyters whose offices were overlapping or indistinguishable. Some say that there was probably "no single 'monarchical' bishop in Rome before the middle of the 2nd century ... and likely later." Other scholars and historians disagree, citing the historical records of St. Ignatius of Antioch (d 107) and St. Irenaeus who recorded the linear succession of Bishops of Rome (the popes) up until their own times."

So, it depends on who you ask and how you define "pope."

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 03:45 PM (jBuUi)

519 Sigh. Unitalic.

Posted by: zombie at October 23, 2016 03:45 PM (jBuUi)

520
to this day muslims have no problem with murder, rape and kidnapping.

Because they're righteous in doing so. They're only murdering infidels. So it's okay.

Just like when a Leftist Regressive SJW commits a crime on someone who differs in political opinion -- it's justified because that person is a racist or a hater or is too rich or supports a Republican.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:45 PM (Wpz0e)

521 teej: Honestly, we are not that far apart. In fact, I don't really understand why Protestants and Catholics need to argue that much. What I dislike is a Protestant who tells me that what I believe has to be fiction. I don't tell Protestants that what they believe is wrong. It probably isn't.

Faith is a gift, freely given. We respond. What is so difficult about that?

Catholics have more of an institutionalized method of living out faith, while Protestants have a more personal understanding of means and methods. The polemics belong in the 16th Century, not today.

Believe according to your conscience. That is all that ever mattered.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:46 PM (cm1Bl)

522 yeah right, can someone point out some Christian violence in the last 25 years?

Posted by: origional Jake at October 23, 2016 03:46 PM (iC3qF)

523 Wikileaks email from January talking about recommending "oversampling" of polls

https://twitter.com/realestrickyro/status/790187032861564928

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:47 PM (Om16U)

524 The replay overturned that and gave them two extra points for Iceland, IIRC. That makes it 3-2.

Hold on a minute. Iceland is on the boundary between the Eurasian and North American continental plates. At most that should be good for one point.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 23, 2016 03:47 PM (IcT7t)

525 You didn't address that point (though you quoted it) but it is the logical conclusion, isn't it?

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (UW4Uc)


Catholics believe in transubstantiation, which is entirely illogical so, . . .

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:47 PM (z1o2c)

526 the reason HRC is not campaigning is simple ! she has the charisma of a turd in a toilet with no water & no surrogate can close the deal for a candidate ! it has to be candidate. they can't take a chance on her having another 9/11 style debacle/breakdown whatever you want to call it & therefore she doesn't campaign

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 03:47 PM (y3aQB)

527 Yes. Which is why the Unspeakable Military Doctrine to End Islam Once And For All would actually work, when coupled with Medina and the Dome of the Rock.

LAPES a D-9 onto the platform. 30 minutes later, no problem.

Although the new -53 variant has a respectable sling load. Have to check the Cat catalog.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 03:48 PM (brIR5)

528
That wacko Leftist from Wisconsin was righteous in vandalizing Republicans' cars because she put The Label on Donald Trump -- he is a War Criminal in waiting -- therefore he and all his supporters deserve whatever they get.

Once the Left puts The Label on you, they are justified in attacking you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:48 PM (Wpz0e)

529 As Margarita DeVille noted, when the Muzzies kill infidels, they mean Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and the American Atheist Association. Nobody gets a free pass.

The proprietor of this blog is an atheist/agnostic who probably regards all of our theological arguing as so much piffle, although he's too nice to say so. Needless to say, I would trust Ace to have my back before I'd trust a lot of social justice Catholics, nominal Protestants or liberal Jews - and I don't care how much time those last 3 groups spend in church or synagogue.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:49 PM (P8951)

530 Digital signature proves Brazile email authentic (Daily Caller):


Here's Cryptographic Proof That Donna Brazile Is Wrong, WikiLeaks Emails Are Real

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jor5475

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 23, 2016 03:49 PM (uyrlv)

531 Votermom-

I think all the Jackson kids (sans LaToya) have all gone full goat raper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 03:49 PM (89T5c)

532 Do you at least acknowledge my point that, with incompatible plans of salvation and God not the author of confusion, someone here HAS to be wrong? You didn't address that point (though you quoted it) but it is the logical conclusion, isn't it? Anyone with ANY strong belief, about ANYTHING, thinks whoever disagrees is wrong. So I don't understand how am I out of line for pointing out this simple fact. Someone here IS wrong...MUST be wrong.

Can any Catholic here agree with me on at least that much?


Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM (UW4Uc)

Back it up, darlin'.

If the legalistic points are that important to you, then by all means, attach yourself to them. It is NOT your job to come here and "convert" all of us nasty Papists.

Nobody is going to be converted by your argument. All you are doing is being an ass.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:49 PM (cm1Bl)

533

A muslim can blow up a school bus because s/he put The Label on the children on the bus -- they are infidels -- therefore their murder is righteous.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:50 PM (Wpz0e)

534 Once the Left puts The Label on you, they are justified in attacking you.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:48 PM (Wpz0e)

Yow. I'd better check my bumper. I probably have more Labels than I can count.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:51 PM (cm1Bl)

535 Catholics believe in transubstantiation, which is entirely illogical so, . . .
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:47 PM (z1o2c)

A guy being raised from the dead after 3 days is also illogical - unless you believe God can do such things.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:51 PM (P8951)

536 Holy of Holies.
Geemoney.
Hope it was good for a laugh any way.
Lighten things up a bit where needed.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 03:51 PM (HddOg)

537 Another thing I find amusing. Protestant ministers outsource exorcism to Catholic priests. Now why is that?

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:52 PM (z1o2c)

538 536 Holy of Holies.
Geemoney.
Hope it was good for a laugh any way.
Lighten things up a bit where needed.
Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 03:51 PM (HddOg)

I assumed you meant Jesus' homies....

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:52 PM (cm1Bl)

539 yeah right, can someone point out some Christian violence in the last 25 years?
Posted by: origional Jake at October 23, 2016 03:46 PM (iC3qF)
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Sure. Indonesia. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Confucians all engage in violence there. It almost always involves Muslims though.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 03:53 PM (NUqwG)

540
btw, labeling Janet Yellin, obama's stooge at the Fed, as "Volleyball Head" is brilliant.

Because her head looks just like a volleyball!

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:53 PM (Wpz0e)

541 if you overlay maps of the third world and the moslem world they have a lager amount of overlap

Posted by: origional Jake at October 23, 2016 03:54 PM (iC3qF)

542 Drudge has a picture of FAB on the plane....can't tell if she's holding one in or trying to let one out.....

Huma looks concerned...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 03:54 PM (ej1L0)

543 What I like about being a Catholic is the ritual. I don't know why. It feels magical.

And I think I pray most to Mary, followed by God the Father, then the Holy Spirit, and my guardian Angel. I rarely pray directly to Jesus unless I am in really dire and low spirits. He's for my serious 911 calls.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (Om16U)

544 I must have missed all the news stories about people being beheaded by attackers screaming "In nomine Patris!!"

Posted by: Socratease at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (2GbWn)

545 There were the "troubles."

Most would say that Christian "violence" usually started with a defensive movement, not out of belligerance. But we may be hedging there.

At any rate, for Islam it is the core of their belief. For Christians at war, at least the Christians know that killin' except for defense of the innocent is pretty much rotten.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (cm1Bl)

546 A guy being raised from the dead after 3 days is also illogical - unless you believe God can do such things.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 03:51 PM (P8951)


But that's Christian theology. Transubstantiation is Catholic dogma. Thrown in our worship of Mary and you have the big differences between Catholicism and other Christians.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (z1o2c)

547 Sure. Indonesia. Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Confucians all engage in violence there. It almost always involves Muslims though.
..........
isn't that just fighting back against the aggressive moslems?

Posted by: origional Jake at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (iC3qF)

548 Refighting the Civil War has gotten boring.

Now to refight the Thirty Years' War.

*makes popcorn*

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 03:56 PM (sdi6R)

549 So what? I will not force my hellish views on you or your children. I will not behead you if you stray from them. I will not get you fired, destroy your bakery, and incite mobs against you.
And you won't do those things to me either.

The Left wants to destroy BOTH of us.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 03:26 PM (Nox3c)

This! We, as Christians, or Jews, or rational freethinkers, are in an existential struggle with islam and the Left. Quibbles over "correct" Christian doctrine are veritable music to the ears of Satan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 23, 2016 03:56 PM (CUYn5)

550 You know Muldoon, I figure that one of these days, instead of blaming auto-c people around here are just gonna say "Ugh, I teejed."

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 03:56 PM (HddOg)

551 >> yeah right, can someone point out some Christian violence in the last 25 years?

The liberals would bring up the killing of abortion doctors.

And then they'd claim McVeigh was a Christian when he wasn't, etc. etc.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 03:58 PM (gTQoY)

552 btw, labeling Janet Yellin, obama's stooge at the Fed, as "Volleyball Head" is brilliant.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:53 PM (Wpz0e)


I agree.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (zc3Db)

553 isn't that just fighting back against the aggressive moslems?
Posted by: origional Jake at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (iC3qF)
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I would say that it mostly is but I am biased. There has been enough violence there that any act could be justified as retaliation against something else in the past. All the violence directed against Muslims has not been defensive or in "immediate" retaliation.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (NUqwG)

554 >>Here's Cryptographic Proof That Donna Brazile Is Wrong


You mis-spelled 'lying her fat ass off'.

Posted by: garrett at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (Bi9lc)

555 >>*makes popcorn*

Popcorn?? Not chips????

*throws holy hand grenade*

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (gTQoY)

556 The liberals would bring up the killing of abortion doctors.

And then they'd claim McVeigh was a Christian when he wasn't, etc. etc.
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 03:58 PM (gTQoY)

The liberals think that the Westboro Baptist Church is Christian. The liberals bring up bile and try to convince the world that it is the truth. That, I think, is what aligns them to the Muslims so well.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (cm1Bl)

557 >>btw, labeling Janet Yellin, obama's stooge at the Fed, as "Volleyball Head" is brilliant.


WILSON!

Posted by: Tom Hanks at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (Bi9lc)

558 457 436 Since we're hijacking a thread with religion on a Sunday, are Catholics the only Christian sect which reveres Mary, puts her up on a pedestal? We even have a prayer directly to her, which every football and Gen. Schwartzkopf fan knows the name of. The Feast of The Assumption is also a big deal.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:09 PM (z1o2c)

I think the Easterners (Orthodox) have a highly evolved Mariology as well.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (brIR5)

559 Lions 20 Redskins 17 Final

Posted by: mrp at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (JBggj)

560 If the Baptists and the Lutherans come at me with bean casserole and jello salad, I'm gonna throw fish fry at them and follow it up with coleslaw. And a vat of tomato sauce and pasta from my parishes spaghetti dinners will finish them off.

I'm just sayin'. If we get the Orthodox on our side and they start lobbing those little stuffed grape leaves at you, well, those things can put out an eye.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (P8951)

561 513---Someone here IS wrong...MUST be wrong.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 03:44 PM
-------------------------------
BOTH could be wrong.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (Nox3c)

562 btw, labeling Janet Yellin, obama's stooge at the Fed, as "Volleyball Head" is brilliant.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 03:53 PM (Wpz0e)
I agree.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (zc3Db)

Yup...is most appropriate. "Volleyball Head" it is!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (ej1L0)

563 You mis-spelled 'lying her fat ass off'.
Posted by: garrett at October 23, 2016 03:59 PM (Bi9lc)

I particularly liked her line about being a Christian and how she will not be persecuted.

Throw that broad to the lions.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:01 PM (cm1Bl)

564 532

Don't be upset. You've miss the point, but only because I haven't explained it. My fault.

The issue for me is what I said in my first post on this thread. It's ecumenism, which flows from liberalism/leftism, which says all who name the Name of Christ are brothers and sisters in Him, even though they can't agree how to belong to Him. It says truth doesn't matter and that God IS the author of confusion. It's a wicked lie but more and more believe it all the time, particularly among protestants and evangelicals. It's the same old relativism dressed up in clerical garb.

That's what this is about for me. That's why I want to know if there's anyone here besides me who will boldly stand for Christian truth AS THEY SEE IT and say (if they choose to be blunt) "No hard feelings, Doomed, but yes, I believe you've been suckered by a heretical false gospel that's going to send you to the Lake of Fire if you don't repent of it."

That response would tell me someone here at least has the guts to stand up for what they believe is true, and I'd leave this thread a happy man and say not one more word here.

Know why?

Because I've yet to meet ONE Catholic, after internet and personal contact with many dozens over the years, who will say what their church's own doctrines imply very clearly is my fate. Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with that...I just can NOT figure out why they won't.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 04:01 PM (UW4Uc)

565 btw, labeling Janet Yellin, obama's stooge at the Fed, as "Volleyball Head" is brilliant.


WILSON!
Posted by: Tom Hanks at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (Bi9lc)

Yup. I chuckled for a good half hour over that one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at October 23, 2016 04:01 PM (hhV+y)

566
rdbrewer came up with Volleyball Head -- it's on the sideboob

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 04:02 PM (Wpz0e)

567 I'm just sayin'. If we get the Orthodox on our side and they start lobbing those little stuffed grape leaves at you, well, those things can put out an eye.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (P8951)

Oh, heavens! Have you BEEN to a Greekfest? The one here is epic. You could just eat all day, and then go in to pray that you don't explode.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:02 PM (cm1Bl)

568 Quibbles over "correct" Christian doctrine are veritable music to the ears of Satan.
------------------------
Would this be a good time to begin discussion of pagan Satanic influences on Christian practices?

Posted by: RioBravo at October 23, 2016 04:04 PM (NUqwG)

569 The liberals bring up bile and try to convince the world that it is the truth. That, I think, is what aligns them to the Muslims so well.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:00 PM (cm1Bl)


No. It's just raw hate of the West that makes the Left love the muzzies. The Left isn't really trying to convince anyone of anything. They just hate everything that is traditional or familiar and want to see it all end. And that includes themselves - but they want to take everyone else in the West down first.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 04:04 PM (zc3Db)

570
So I got the games on (picture in picture). Not because I care but because I want the background noise.

A promo for tonight's Sixty Minutes just came on. Their main guest/story: Kim Kardashian.

60 Minutes has always been a joke, but now it's a farce wrapped up in a joke.



Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 04:04 PM (Wpz0e)

571 But that's Christian theology. Transubstantiation is Catholic dogma. Thrown in our worship of Mary and you have the big differences between Catholicism and other Christians.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 03:55 PM (z1o2c)

I should hope that you know the hyperdulia due to Mary does not rise to the level of worship.

Your penance is to spend three weeks reading the Baltimore Catechism.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 04:05 PM (brIR5)

572 Honestly, though, I don't want a snake handler in my foxhole. ...
Posted by: RickZ


As long as he's got a good grip.

Posted by: DJT Practice grabbing. at October 23, 2016 04:05 PM (8J/Te)

573 doomed-

We all have differences but play on the same team. Leave it be and enjoy the day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2016 04:05 PM (89T5c)

574 Because I've yet to meet ONE Catholic, after internet and personal contact with many dozens over the years, who will say what their church's own doctrines imply very clearly is my fate. Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with that...I just can NOT figure out why they won't.
Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 04:01 PM (UW4Uc)

Because, little lawyer, Catholics believe in the Mercy of God. Capitalized. Judge not, lest ye be judged. The legal stuff, while helpful in understanding faith, is of nothing whatsoever if God determines that you shall be in heaven as the good thief.

Nobody is going to damn you to hell: you have the free will to choose that yourself.

Now please, exercise some of that mercy and give it rest.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:07 PM (cm1Bl)

575 Pain is part of being a Catholic. I should know, I had nuns with rulers, pointers and yardsticks teach me, and they knew how to multitask those implements.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 02:56 PM (z1o2c)


One of my Nun teachers had her paddle hanging by a hook. It had holes in it. When asked why, she responded,

"To let the blood run through".

No one ever got paddled that year.

(of course that's not true - the holes are there to relieve air pressure and get a harder smack)

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 23, 2016 04:07 PM (tapYd)

576 Okay, I gotta ask.
Did Rickz mis-speak when he said "...our worship of Mary?"

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 04:08 PM (HddOg)

577
Fucking nuns...

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 04:08 PM (Wpz0e)

578 Anyone else getting hungry? I'm finishing a bag of tortilla chips

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:08 PM (sWbjH)

579 The liberals would bring up the killing of abortion doctors.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 03:58 PM (gTQoY)


Paul Hill, executed by Florida. His reasoning for the murder of the abortion doctor was that he was saving the life of innocents. When you think about it, that is Christian theology in action. Paul Hill did what he did for religious reasons and basically accepted 'Caesar's' law. Hill lost his automatic appeals, then became a 'volunteer' by appealing no further.

Mr. Hill presented no defense after he was barred from arguing that the killings were justified because, in his view, they prevented a greater harm.

. . .

Mr. Hill, who neither presented nor cross-examined any witnesses, . . .

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (z1o2c)

580 Fucking nuns...
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 23, 2016 04:08 PM (Wpz0e)

You hadn't better.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (cm1Bl)

581 Food Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (sWbjH)

582 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:10 PM (sWbjH)

583 Food Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (sWbjH)


There had better not be anchovies in it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 04:10 PM (zc3Db)

584 Well, Sooth, maybe she's going to talk about the election and--

Sorry, thought I could say that without bursting out laughing, but no.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 23, 2016 04:10 PM (gTQoY)

585 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:10 PM (sWbjH)

586 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

587 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

588 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

589 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

590 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

591 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

592 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

593 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

594 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

595 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

596 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

597 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

598 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

599 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

600 Food Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (sWbjH)


There had better not be anchovies in it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (zc3Db)

601 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (sWbjH)

602 573

Not with different playbooks with completely different plays. The Coach won't have it. Someone's going to get cut.

574

You're still upset. Not sure why but, sorry. Fact is, I'm still condemned by your church for consciously, purposefully rejecting it and so (lest I repent) am officially beyond redemption. I know, I looked it up long ago. And that fact puts the lie to ecumenism, as does everyone else's truth, whether they'll voice it or not.

So long.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 04:11 PM (UW4Uc)

603 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

604 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

605 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

606 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

607 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

608 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sWbjH)

609 Okay, I think Fox 2 says yes.
But, hyperdulia?
Um, relieve me of my ignorance here.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (HddOg)

610 Food Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:09 PM (sWbjH)


There had better not be anchovies in it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (zc3Db)

611 I'd just as soon stay here. The food thread depresses me.

*time to heat up a can of spaghetti*

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (sdi6R)

612 573

Not with different playbooks with completely different plays. The Coach won't have it. Someone's going to get cut.

574

You're
still upset. Not sure why but, sorry. Fact is, I'm still condemned by
your church for consciously, purposefully rejecting it and so (lest I
repent) am officially beyond redemption. I know, I looked it up long
ago. And that fact puts the lie to ecumenism, as does everyone else's
truth, whether they'll voice it or not.

So long.

Posted by: doomed at October 23, 2016 04:13 PM (UW4Uc)

613 A Ferrari ground to a halt, Grosjean is good for a point if he holds station.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:13 PM (sWbjH)

614 We don't worship Mary, we revere her and ask her to intercede for us. Just like pray to the Saints to intercede for us to the Lord.

Posted by: IC at October 23, 2016 04:13 PM (gcme+)

615 Did Rickz mis-speak when he said "...our worship of Mary?"

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 04:08 PM (HddOg)


Nope. I went through too many May Day processions in the heat of May. Mary is adored, worshiped, revered, whatever word you like.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 04:13 PM (z1o2c)

616 No, food thread looks like good stuff.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:14 PM (sWbjH)

617 There were the "troubles."

The Troubles are as much ethnic, political and national as they were religious. English, Scots, Irish, COE/COI, COS, RC, Unionist, Nationalist, Roundheads, Willimites and Hanoverians vs Jacobins, all stirred into one big pot. Throw in a little Marxism, shake, and out comes the likes of the UDP and IRA/Sein Fein.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 23, 2016 04:15 PM (brIR5)

618 We get it skip.

And speaking of food...
Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 04:15 PM (HddOg)

619 But, hyperdulia?
Um, relieve me of my ignorance here.
Posted by: teej at October 23, 2016 04:12 PM (HddOg)

Dulia means respect, such as that we have for saints. Hyperdulia means extra-respect, and is reserved for Mary alone, since she gave her fiat to God.

Fancy words, not so fancy concepts.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:15 PM (cm1Bl)

620 Skip Skip Skip, report report report to to to the the the barrel barrel barrel.

Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 04:15 PM (z1o2c)

621 Nope. I went through too many May Day processions in the heat of May. Mary is adored, worshiped, revered, whatever word you like.
Posted by: RickZ at October 23, 2016 04:13 PM (z1o2c)

Nope. If it rises to the level of "worship" then that is, indeed, idolatry.

Catholics adore and revere Mary, but we never worship her. That is reserved for God and God alone.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 23, 2016 04:17 PM (cm1Bl)

622 I think a sniper shot Skip and his head landed on the "enter" key

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 23, 2016 04:18 PM (18h+i)

623 https://tinyurl.com/gvc33z8


Rigged!! P0rn Star Accuser Of Trump Endorsed Obama In 2012!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 04:18 PM (y3aQB)

624 https://tinyurl.com/hcbd87n

what a fucking DOLT


Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 04:18 PM (y3aQB)

625 I see what happened, but I kept hitting post and it didn't look like it worked, even got out and came back todo it again.

Sorry guys.

Posted by: Skip at October 23, 2016 04:20 PM (sWbjH)

626 "99.99-tenths of them are not radicalized, right?"

So he's saying that there are about a thousand non-radicalized Muslims.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) at October 23, 2016 04:22 PM (XyapJ)

627
I particularly liked her line about being a Christian and how she will not be persecuted.

Throw that broad to the lions.


Run away! Run away!

Posted by: The lions at October 23, 2016 04:27 PM (IqV8l)

628 The argument that the left is actually making is that Christians specifically resist the left's effort to remake society.

Muslims go along with what the left wants. For now.

So, Christians are "radical" if they politely argue that they should be allowed to choose to not participate in a gay "wedding" yet Muslims are "moderate" because they only kill westerners in general.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2016 04:29 PM (aZq03)

629 thank you Mr. Aspirin Factory. I can't imagine why anyone would search to hear "You don't believe what I believe and you're going to hell for it."

That's because I heard it. I am a Catholic. While researching an article for a magazine about religion and PR, the PR director for one of the Protestant faiths (I blocked it out) actually told me,flat out that I was going to hell because I was a Catholic.

I was pretty annoyed. It was only Christian charity that kept me from writing about it in my article.

It seems divisive and presumptuous. Only God knows what is in our hearts and He is the Judge.

Posted by: vivi at October 23, 2016 04:38 PM (11H2y)

630 Jessica Drake launches store before making accusations against Trump

https://tinyurl.com/gnax9v2

Posted by: Evilpens at October 23, 2016 04:44 PM (y3aQB)

631

As Founder and High Prophet of the 'Our Lady of Perpetual Motion' radical tradition, I welcome new Lay Sisters to our grokking...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 23, 2016 04:53 PM (qul7b)

632 "According to Iowahawk, Christian radicalism is centered in the Ishpeming
Triangle where radical Lutherans practice a very hard core version of
Lombardi-ism complete with casseroles and jello molds on Packer Football
Sundays".

Oh, no! I have radical relatives!

Posted by: Hal Dall at October 23, 2016 05:41 PM (3u9mE)

633 Y'all are arguing over points of Christian doctrine, shows we need a Ministry of Truth under Hillary the Profit (May Indictments Be Upon Her) to decide the dogma.

Posted by: Hal Dall at October 23, 2016 05:44 PM (3u9mE)

634 Crusades? A masterpiece was written by Andrew Wheatcroft and "named a Best Book of the Year" by The Independent and The Telegraph: The Enemy at the Gate.

You won't regret this read ... ever!

Posted by: omeone who din't major in history at October 23, 2016 06:30 PM (E/DSu)

635 No hard feelings, Doomed, but yes, I believe you've been suckered by a heretical false gospel that's going to send you to the Lake of Fire if you don't repent of it

+++

I'm not the judge, but yeah I do believe that. happy? course you're not.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 23, 2016 07:02 PM (U0lQa)

636 Is that... a canned 'laugh track' I keep hearing?
Honestly now, a canned laugh track for a featured comedy interview show? How absolutely lame is that?

Posted by: 5Cats at October 23, 2016 07:12 PM (afIvp)

637 vivi (above) You HONESTLY believe that Muslims don't think ALL infidels will burn in hell for all eternity? Honestly now?
And when's the last time a Christian Terrorist organization took over parts of 2 nations and subjected the population to 'The Laws Of Jesus' against their will? Torturing, murdering, raping and various other deeds 'in the name of Jesus'?
When?

Posted by: 5Cats at October 23, 2016 07:16 PM (afIvp)

638 Drudge has a link (in red) about a Podesta email regarding poll rigging that everyone needs to read.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 23, 2016 09:12 PM (+wjl1)

639 Add this to how they misrepresent other past Christian acts. Refusing to note how the Crusades were a response to Muslim's terrorizing Christians across Turkey and the Iberian Peninsula, or how the inquisition, while approved by the church, was mainly the pet project of the Queen of Spain as a way to strengthen her power.

Of course these sympathizers will never get called out because that would be mean. I'd love Simmons to have a chat with Crowder, that racist (not even jokingly, he and his (ex?)wife are unabashed anti-white racist) turtle looking sh!t will run away crying from that interview.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 23, 2016 09:41 PM (oEU2k)

640 Radical Christians are everywhere. Just go check out the volunteers at your nearest soup kitchen.

Posted by: Aarradin at October 23, 2016 10:19 PM (4zniI)

641 He's probably right jusr not in the way he thinks he is. Because what is called radical Islam actually is pretty mainstream. It's not like they are inventing ideas that are not in the koran their holy book says kill all infedells so they dontheir best to kil all infedells. Nothing radical about that cristians like Nancy Pelosi seem and even the current pope seem to find things that just aren't in their Bible. So who is following a racidalized view of their religion?

Posted by: Theworminator at October 24, 2016 02:14 AM (6WyjI)

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