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Kaboom!
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:00 PM (VndSC) 2
Time to load on SPF 1 million sunblock.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:01 PM (KUaJL) 3
I'll summon The Others.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:02 PM (KUaJL) 4
Their carrier is a POS and will be lucky to make it back to Russia without being towed.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 21, 2016 03:02 PM (mpXpK) 5
And a flotilla of tugs in case the peat is wet.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at October 21, 2016 03:02 PM (RD7QR) 6
And Putin is using this POS as anti-Obama PR device. It is good for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 21, 2016 03:03 PM (mpXpK) 7
It's their only smoldering peat/manure carrier?
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:03 PM (VndSC) 8
They need to rename it the "Admiral Jimmy Carter".
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:04 PM (VndSC) 9
Surely the Good Women of Brattleboro will demand this floating Beijing be drydocked until it meets the UN's carbon emissions standards!
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:04 PM (Kucy5) 10
Also, I like the Art in the morning thread better than this one.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:04 PM (KUaJL) 11
Yeah, it's sort of depressing seeing all the war scare talk around here. Not a chance the russkis or us will get into it - for very different reasons. We're already engaged in a proxy war, no advantage in making it more conventional and direct.
And Dave your well done humorous fake news left out that the Kuznetsov always travels with tugs and auxiliaries that would not normally accompany a ship from a real navy - precisely because it's so prone to break-downs. But we're getting there! Wonder if the Navy will propose a new class of ocean-going tugs specifically to "support" the LCS when they suffer their engineering casualties? Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2016 03:04 PM (QDnY+) 12
I wish Russia well in their endeavor to stop obama from continuing his deadly civil wars in Syria, Yemen, and Libya. And now in Iraq. Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (WE5/U) 13
Peat?
You gotta be kidding me... Posted by: navybrat at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (w7KSn) 14
Given the problems OUR Navy is having maintaining our radar and electronics, it's probably a good thing that smokestack means we won't need them...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (Kucy5) 15
Looks like it burns tractor tires and whale blubber.
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (QM5S2) 16
Before we start laughing to hard, how many of ours are currently operational and in the theater?
Posted by: Pete Seria at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (/pOl7) 17
Wow.. coupled with Assad's superior air power, this is a force to be reckoned with!!! lol
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 21, 2016 03:05 PM (so+oy) 18
Weakness invites aggression.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (VKZGb) 19
Saw a comment on this elsewhere it has a few tugboats with it for breakdowns.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (sWbjH) 20
How many of our ships are running on seaweed and pig shit right now?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (66Sa/) 21
Scotland has a peat-burning carrier too. It's used to haul around a metric fuckton of Scotch whiskey.
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (VndSC) 22
hey, we're just deep-frying the jello here
Posted by: Russian admiral/sous-chef at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (h/uSM) 23
22 hey, we're just deep-frying the jello here
Posted by: Russian admiral/sous-chef at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (h/uSM) So you've been to Texas? Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:07 PM (VKZGb) 24
Smoking Lamp Status: Lit
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at October 21, 2016 03:08 PM (QM5S2) 25
What is all that smoke from amidships?
Posted by: Admiral Sir Barack Obama, Hallowed LEadr of 57 States and Lord of The Corpsmen at October 21, 2016 03:08 PM (/m8T6) 26
Maybe the smoking lamp is lighted
Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:08 PM (8ikIW) 27
Who runs Carrier-town?
Posted by: MasterBlaster at October 21, 2016 03:08 PM (h/uSM) 28
My guess is it runs on whale oil.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:09 PM (sWbjH) 29
I don't technically know anything about aircraft carriers but it seems that we can launch our planes off flat decks and all the lame countries need ski jumps to get them going.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:09 PM (mgbwf) 30
What that picture doesn't adequately show you is the Russian sailors chained down below and rowing hard for shore.
Posted by: Ash Carter at October 21, 2016 03:09 PM (/m8T6) 31
Ivan took a massive dump without permission
Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (8ikIW) 32
Yes, I'm sure the Russians are a paper tiger and going to war with those backwards Caucasians would be a cake walk, particularly considering our vital national security interests at stake in...
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly? Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (3Liv/) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (WE5/U) 34
Wait until you see the Hemp powered Carrier we're going to build. With tie-die camouflage.
Posted by: Gary Johnson at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (h/uSM) 35
30 What that picture doesn't adequately show you is the Russian sailors chained down below and rowing hard for shore.
Posted by: Ash Carter at October 21, 2016 03:09 PM (/m8T6) The good news is you get double rations for lunch. The bad news is the Captain wants to go water skiing after lunch. Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (VKZGb) 36
Yes, I'm sure the Russians are a paper tiger and going to war with those
backwards Caucasians would be a cake walk, particularly considering our vital national security interests at stake in... Not to worry. Shillary says we can have nukes up in 4 minutes Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:11 PM (8ikIW) 37
so is anyone else having trouble accessing the wikileaks site and or twitter feed?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:11 PM (cPsPa) 38
Russia, good at hacking email, not good at carrier building.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:11 PM (sWbjH) Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 21, 2016 03:11 PM (/D5Lf) 40
Yeah, it's sort of depressing seeing all the war scare talk around here.
Not a chance the russkis or us will get into it - for very different reasons. We're already engaged in a proxy war, no advantage in making it more conventional and direct. --- There never is...right up until someone thinks they can get away with it. Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (3Liv/) 41
We think they're likely to be dumping sewage right in the ocean.
Posted by: Lawrenceville Georgia Police at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (/m8T6) 42
Too bad Iran won't say "pussy;" then the Media and obama would be all outraged at them. Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (WE5/U) 43
This IS a joke, isn't it?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (Nox3c) 44
Laugh all you want about what a piece of crap it is,its there.Attack it and it means war.I assume it does have Russia's state of the art surface to air missiles. Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (lKyWE) 45
Come sail with us on Socialist Medditerrean. Book soon before the window cells are taken.
Posted by: Gary Johnson at October 21, 2016 03:12 PM (h/uSM) 46
I was going to guess coal-powered, but with that much smoke, it has to be burning Hillary's deleted e-mails.
Posted by: NavyMom at October 21, 2016 03:13 PM (Y4c10) 47
Headed for liberty call in Chappaqua.
Posted by: BignJames at October 21, 2016 03:13 PM (9RGU3) 48
The mysterious silence at Twitter continues. Something about an
EMCOMCOM test? Fortunately the rest of the internet remains unaf Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:13 PM (Kucy5) 49
Some world leaders recognize pussy when they see it....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 21, 2016 03:13 PM (2L42J) Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (U6f54) 51
37 so is anyone else having trouble accessing the wikileaks site and or twitter feed?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:11 PM (cPsPa) nope Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (/D5Lf) 52
32 Yes, I'm sure the Russians are a paper tiger and going to war with those backwards Caucasians would be a cake walk, particularly considering our vital national security interests at stake in...
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly? Posted by: Methos His Radical Islamic Terror bona fides were suspect. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (kfcYC) 53
Formula One US grand prix Friday practice going on now
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (sWbjH) 54
Admiral Flota Sovetskovo Soyuza N.G. Kuznetsov
oh yeah, that's gotta be a joy to type out in all official communications. Cyrillic is not any more concise than Roman characters. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (39g3+) 55
John F***ing Kerry won't like this, my friends.
Not one bit. The carbon emissions are downright wicked. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (Nox3c) 56
The USSR rules again... Thank You Messrs Soetoro, Clinton and Kerry
Posted by: Ioseph Stalin at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (DpOmP) 57
32 He said "pussy" in Arabic.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (Kucy5) 58
In post-Soviet Russia peat mosses YOU.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (RD7QR) 59
>> Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
What was our beef with Qaddafi? Our beef with Saddam seems to have been based on poor hygiene in his food trucks.* * - I'm completely aware of what went on there, but if there was casus belli it was Iraq shooting at our Northern Watch/Southern Watch patrols, not any WMD bullshit. Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (TppKb) 60
But Trump said pussy and is a rumored serial adulterer!!!
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (zu88C) 61
This is how we grab England's pussy. Don't like it? Write me an angry letter.
The "ski" on the end is to mark it as properly Russian. Posted by: Vladimir Putin-ski at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (/m8T6) 62
57 32 He said "pussy" in Arabic.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (Kucy5) Which is also the word for "goat." Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (VKZGb) 63
I am sure we'd wipe the dirt with the Russian military as long as we didn't try to invade Russia. But what would be our compelling national interest? I would prefer Russia be contained and not in control of Syria or anywhere else in the mideast, but its not worth our blood and treasury to stop them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+) 64
what a piece of Merde
Posted by: Carrier Charles De Gaulle at October 21, 2016 03:15 PM (h/uSM) 65
This reminds me a story about our dog VC, Cambodia and a magic hat..
Posted by: John Kerry at October 21, 2016 03:16 PM (DpOmP) 66
hardest hit, mitt ronmey.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:16 PM (cPsPa) 67
If a brat and a six-pack is a 7 course meal in Wisconsin, then PB&J and a handle of Valu-Rite is a working lunch.
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:16 PM (VndSC) 68
anyone else having trouble accessing the wikileaks site and or twitter feed?
Posted by: yankeefifth East Coast DNR attacks ongoing today. Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 21, 2016 03:16 PM (Mt8T4) 69
>> Any gay Russian sailors on board? Love the
>> uniforms! How you do you spell "Gender-Neutral Head" in Cyrillic? Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (TppKb) 70
Any gay Russian sailors on board? Love the uniforms!
Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 21, 2016 03:14 PM (U6f54) Lindsey? We know who you are, Senator. Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (4ng05) 71
Perfect time for Russia to act. Our current (and for the foreseeable future) leaders hate this country more than they do.
Posted by: Pyrocles, the Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (YYQrJ) 72
anyone else having trouble accessing the wikileaks site and or twitter feed?
Posted by: yankeefifth East Coast DNR attacks ongoing today. Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 21, 2016 03:16 PM (Mt8T4) thanks Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (cPsPa) 73
The French should have the Charles de Gaulle set sail. The French carrier and the Russian heavy-aircraft-carrying-cruiser can have a contest limping to and from the shores of Outremer.
Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (3DSAh) 74
39 Time to draw a red line!
--- Can't you see it, i drew it right there on the water with my big stick! Posted by: Barack Obama at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (h/uSM) 75
There was a chemical incident at a London airport today, ppl evacuated.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-37734096 Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (Om16U) 76
The ski jump allows lower stresses on the pilots. It's not a great design, but it has its purpose.
Wouldn't want that off my coast. Our chief diversity officer would have to take a month to recover from xer stress at facing this carbon-belching white patriarchal monster. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (NBViM) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (WE5/U) 78
This carrier might be a piece of shit, but I'd be more concerned about
the AA-10 Alamo air-to-air missiles carried by the Su-33s (a variant of the Su-27) that keep taking off from this piece of shit, and landing on it. President Shit-Fingered-Midas could do quite a bit to "fundamentally transform" things in his last couple of months in office. Posted by: Pastafarian at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (OWWiT) 79
Anyone else have a better resolution?, I only see 2 aircraft and 1 Helo on the flight deck.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH) 80
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (3Liv/) He's blocking a natgas pipeline route which rightly belongs to George Soros and Warren Buffett. And that freedom and human rights stuff, and pics of kids in battle scarred towns make SE Cupp cry Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (Ya7zs) 81
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked to find that Kerry ordered some kind of attack on anything that carries Wikileaks content to silence them for a while. Twitter, Wikileaks, mirrors. Sure, it will hurt Twitter, but they'll take one for the team.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (39g3+) 82
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I have a cold. I had a cold exactly one year ago. That's weird. Posted by: Soothsayer I hope you feel better next year. Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (VndSC) 83
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Anyone else have a better resolution?, I only see 2 aircraft and 1 Helo on the flight deck. Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:18 PM (sWbjH) That technically still makes it an aircraft carrier. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (jxbfJ) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (WE5/U) 85
Admiral Flota Sovetskovo Soyuza N.G. Kuznetsov
====================== "Flota" doesn't mean "Fleet" as in the title Fleet Admiral, contrary to what some of the State Department linguists might believe. Instead, in an old Russian tradition that dates back to Peter The Great, that's a sign of our hopefulness every time we launch a new ship. Posted by: Vladimir Putin-ski at October 21, 2016 03:19 PM (/m8T6) 86
Don't look now, but them's Reavers!
Posted by: Jayne Cobb at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (h/uSM) Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (uHcnA) 88
Long Live Byzantium!
Posted by: William Eaton at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (MuTTO) 89
>> Perfect time for Russia to act. Our current (and for
>> the foreseeable future) leaders hate this country >> more than they do. Yeah, pretty bad when we're looking forward to the Russians saving us from our own "leadership". Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (TppKb) 90
Let's all laugh, but we need to remember this. They're sailing a carrier right down the middle of the English Channel. This is a poke in the eye over western weakness, not showing off technology.
Posted by: Soona at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (Fmupd) Posted by: Your New Green Navy at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (Ya7zs) 92
Admiral Flotsam didn't make the short list of names.
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (VndSC) 93
Nucular wessels
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 21, 2016 03:21 PM (ANs86) 94
There once was a wily old Russki
Who seized an opportunusski Because Barry's a wimp They set out a ship And grabbed TFG by the pusski Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:21 PM (VKZGb) 95
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at October 21, 2016 03:21 PM (zu88C) 96
How you do you spell "Gender-Neutral Head" in Cyrillic?
Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:17 PM (TppKb) ========================== Amabo Posted by: Vladimir Putin-ski at October 21, 2016 03:22 PM (/m8T6) 97
Admiral Flotsam didn't make the short list of names.
But Boatski McBoatfaceski came in second. Third was Brad Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:22 PM (8ikIW) 98
Its a aircraft carrier alright, my question is how many aircraft is it carrying?
It better have a few more than 2. Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:22 PM (sWbjH) Posted by: Some Russian at October 21, 2016 03:22 PM (X7E8f) 100
The ski jump allows lower stresses on the pilots. It's not a great design, but it has its purpose.
Brits use them a lot too, its a mini carrier design to get extra lift from a short runway. They're sailing a carrier right down the middle of the English Channel. This is a poke in the eye over western weakness, not showing off technology. Yeah, that's not exactly the short way around for Russia. Its a deliberate waving of the wang, the kind they never dared before. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+) 101
Can't we just send a Coast Guard fire boat over there and put out their ship? They'll have to tug it back home.
Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (VndSC) Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (4ng05) 103
Hillary will sink it with her FAT ASS.
Posted by: R. DUKE at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (ONH2e) 104
Its a aircraft carrier alright, my question is how many aircraft is it carrying? It better have a few more than 2. ___ 2.5. With upgrade to 2.6 soon! Posted by: Some Russian at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (X7E8f) 105
Row well and live, forty-one.
Posted by: Quintus Arrius at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (IqV8l) 106
I read a few days ago, 8 warships they let loose. Again, not to mention the huge strategic assault planned on Mosul. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (qCMvj) 107
Yes! The smart military posts are coming back!
Posted by: Draki at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (fHt7t) 108
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2016 03:10 PM (3Liv/) He wanted to charge transit fees to the gulf arab states for the pipeline they wanted. The qutaris and saudies, said No. Assad should have let them build it it for free. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (d76uN) 109
meh, sailing it through the channel is less humiliating to us and our allies than it is a statement of their capability and intentions. it is not in territorial waters. however, it is embarrassing that our nato partners do not have enough ships of their own to sail out in force and shadow them.
something of a risk for the sovs because there is probably a risk that something breaks down and has to be towed home. Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:23 PM (cPsPa) 110
Major cyber attack disrupts internet service across US and Europe
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ 2016/oct/21/ddos-attack-dyn-internet-denial-service Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 21, 2016 03:24 PM (Mt8T4) 111
I wonder what kind of ship we'll name after Obama? Do they still have honey barges?
Posted by: tu3031 at October 21, 2016 03:24 PM (qJhUV) Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:24 PM (zu88C) 113
I get that this is meant to be provocative and a sign of Western weakness, but its not like we ever could stop Russia from putting her fleet to sail (assuming that we don't blow it out of the water).
The real western weakness was surrendering the mantle of leadership in Syria and allowing Russia to create its own no fly zone there. Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (3DSAh) 114
How interesting.
I usually can't get to the comments page. Won't load, except once in a while. When I reload the site, sometimes it does, no problem. Other times, it redirects me to those " lucky winner" bullshit sites. AoS is the only site doing all this. Oh, and I went to pick up book at Library. Tried AoS there. No luck, same problems. So not restricted to my stuff. Weird thing. Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (d6TTt) 115
Yeah, pretty bad when we're looking forward to the Russians saving us from our own "leadership". *** On one side you've got Russia supporting a run of the mill Arabic dictator. On the other hand you've got Obama supporting ISIS and murdering Russian pilots. Somehow Barky has us in a morally inferior position to Russia. Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (X7E8f) 116
Let's all laugh, but we need to remember this. They're sailing a carrier right down the middle of the English Channel. This is a poke in the eye over western weakness, not showing off technology.
Posted by: Soona at October 21, 2016 03:20 PM (Fmupd) ----------------- I think I saw a report yesterday that Russia had ten ships in the English Channel - is that correct? I suppose I could look myself. Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (uHcnA) 117
Peat? They have peat? Why the hell do they drink Vodka?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (7H/2n) 118
Sure would like to get NGU's take on this.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (CFc5L) 119
Another question is how many secrets did they get from Hillary's loose emails ?
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (sWbjH) 120
Tarsus is a carve-out no different than Crimea, Kaliningrad or Ttansnistria. It's now Russian territory - not the whole port but a sizeable portion of it. That was the deal Putin made with Assad for committing troops ect for the first major offensive this past summer.
Russian military spent a lot of time fortifying the base at the while at the same time they were rocketing Aleppo and Homs and then pulled back imen and materiel nto the newly refurbished base. Reset. Leading fom behind. Watch Putin in Libya now. Posted by: 13times at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (WHVu+) 121
it is embarrassing that our nato partners do not have enough ships of their own to sail out in force and shadow them.
I think the Royal Navy is shadowing them. Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (mgbwf) 122
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
___ Actually, I'm not sure anymore. But I looked pretty cool with the red lines didn't I? Posted by: Barack Obama at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (X7E8f) 123
The ski jump allows lower stresses on the pilots. It's not a great design, but it has its purpose. And you can use it for skate board tricks. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (IqV8l) 124
105 Row well and live, forty-one.
Posted by: Quintus Arrius Good news : extra ration of glog today Bad news : after lunch, I am going waterskiing Posted by: Captain Claudius at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (VndSC) 125
122 Sure would like to get NGU's take on this.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (CFc5L) I'm sure the Russian sailors' oral hygiene is abysmal. Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (VKZGb) 126
hey, we're just deep-frying the jello here
Posted by: Russian admiral/sous-chef at October 21, 2016 03:06 PM (h/uSM) So you've been to Texas? Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:07 PM (VKZGb) I hope the Russian stuff is better than that crap i wasted 8 bucks on here at the State Fair. Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (Q6/bf) 127
***Also, I like the Art in the morning thread better than this one.
I'm pretty sure Nelson would like to broadside that tub. Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (Iy8pe) 128
We just have one of our carriers do an inverted flyby and give them the finger.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:24 PM (zu88C) more likely have a sub sail by inverted so he can wag his junk at the russians. Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (cPsPa) 129
The real western weakness was surrendering the mantle of leadership in Syria and allowing Russia to create its own no fly zone there.
Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 03:25 PM (3DSAh) Ummm....question for ya. How can you assume a "mantle of leadership" when every action taken by the U.S. in Syria does not meet any legal justification? Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (d76uN) Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (ANs86) 131
73. Points for outremer, a term with a long and distinguished history, sir.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (NBViM) 132
Russian military stuff always did range from sh*tty to passable, but they make it up in volume
Posted by: Billy Occam at October 21, 2016 03:28 PM (/542q) 133
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
---- He probably called Ms Syria fat or something. That's the kind of thing we get outraged over nowadays. Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:28 PM (KUaJL) 134
I think the Royal Navy is shadowing them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (mgbwf) yeah but with one or two ships, not ten. suppose they could fire up their aircraft carrier, if it had aircraft. Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:28 PM (cPsPa) 135
I wish Russia well in their endeavor to stop obama from continuing his deadly civil wars in Syria, Yemen, and Libya. And now in Iraq. Posted by: Soothsayer Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Algeria, Morocco, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia, Central African Republic... The "Pan Sahel Initiative" ect. U.S. special operations teams are now deployed to 23 African countries "seven days a week, 24/7," according to Brig. Gen. Donald Bolduc, chief of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa. "1,400 SOF operators and supporters integrated with our partner nation..." yada yada "is Bob Hope doing his Christmas Show here?" With zero attention from anybody, especially the Republican controlled congress -- until another barracks gets car bombed. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (kdS6q) 136
Not just to the Med, but through the English Channel, just to be proviocative. And I see from the BBC that they had sense to bring a tugboat. Those unmaintained ex-Soviet POS are a bit unreliable - might need some help.
Posted by: Surellin at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (PWL0Y) 137
Let's all laugh, but we need to remember this. They're sailing a carrier right down the middle of the English Channel. This is a poke in the eye over western weakness, not showing off technology.
Posted by: Soona --------------- So, within range of shore artillery? Not something you see every day. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (7H/2n) 138
bluebell
!0 is correct, plus a sub and 3 support vehicles. The Daily Mail has some good coverage, plus a Norwegian video. I'm not that impressed. The engineers on the Russian CV are in for hard time ahead, looking at that smoke. Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (u82oZ) 139
I think the Royal Navy is shadowing them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:26 PM (mgbwf ========================== The Royal Navy that has four active duty surface ships? Posted by: MTF at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (/m8T6) 140
>> Somehow Barky has us in a morally inferior position
>> to Russia. Once again we come back to "what would Obama be doing differently if he WERE an agent of a hostile foreign power?" Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (TppKb) 141
Crazy Ivan!
Posted by: Petrov at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (AGJqR) 142
>>>He was demoted less than a year later for political unreliability.
That can only mean one thing. He was insufficiently supportive of transgenders in the military. It's shameful that we are only now catching up to where they were decades ago. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (mBYZv) 143
Of course the funny thing here is in the mid-00s Assad was perfectly happy to arm AQ in Iraq and let them move through his country...so he does kind of deserve the old Il Duche treatment.
Unlike Italy in 1945 though the opposition is clearly worse then the dictator. Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (X7E8f) 144
"Judging from the stack gas, her power plant appears to have been converted to one burning firewood, or possibly peat."
My money says "dung burner". It does lay down one hell of a smokescreen, though. Posted by: cool breeze at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (StZrq) 145
I have the Duffel Blog open in another tab and at first didn't realize I had switched over.
Posted by: SGT Stumpy at October 21, 2016 03:30 PM (P4k+S) 146
Harry Reid was perfectly willing to have a blackout in Los Angeles on Election Day. Is it a stretch to assume this same party wouldn't cripple the internet for the same reasons?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 21, 2016 03:30 PM (Kucy5) 147
>> The Royal Navy that has four active duty surface
>> ships? The ones whose power plants shut down because their cooling systems can't handle Persian Gulf water temperatures? Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:30 PM (TppKb) 148
133 Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
---- He probably called Ms Syria fat or something. That's the kind of thing we get outraged over nowadays. Posted by: joe, living dangerously It couldn't be killing Muslims. That's all the rage, lately. Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:30 PM (VndSC) 149
more likely have a sub sail by inverted so he can wag his junk at the russians.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM Ahem. "Junk"? Submariners do it deeper. Posted by: EB Green at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (X5jRy) 150
yeah but with one or two ships, not ten. suppose they could fire up their aircraft carrier, if it had aircraft.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:28 PM (cPsPa)>>> We would be happy to fly our planes off it. Posted by: Local RC plane club at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (tf9Ne) 151
Russian military stuff always did range from sh*tty to passable, but they make it up in volume
*** Actually the real difference is will. Had you given the US Army the same latitude in Iraq that the Russian Army had in Chechnya the post-Saddam part of the war wouldn't have ever even started.... Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (X7E8f) 152
It can't be hard to find it, you can see it 50 miles away. Just follow your nose.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (sWbjH) 153
We just have one of our carriers do an inverted flyby and give them the finger.
Posted by: Mortimer ---------- Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers! Damned impressive. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (7H/2n) 154
Meanwhile in Mosul, the Pentagon said that the city was surrounded by Pershmerga on the north and east, Iraqi forces on the south and east. I guess leaving the west end of the city open doesn't count.
Also some Iraqis complaining that American jets letting ISIS escape to Syria, and when our generals say ISIS leaders spotted escaping it kind of gives that credibility. SPOTTED, not KILLED. Some eyewitnesses say that ISIS is sparse on the east end of Mosul and heavy on the west end, which to my very amateur eye says they're planning a heavily covered retreat. Today, Shiite militias moved to the west side of Mosul to cut the retreat since Iran doesn't want to let them retreat to Syria where they become "moderate rebels" and fight against Iranian and Hezbollah fighters there. Oh, and somebody forgot to guard the rear since ISIS is attacking Kirkuk now. Instant Clusterfuck; Just add elitist/neocon strategerie Posted by: Your New Green Navy at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (Ya7zs) 155
The British still have a navy, of sorts. Its no Rule Britannia, but they are fairly capable.
The thing is, this isn't the result of our lack of military action in Syria, its basically America being so feckless, incompetent, and foolish in its foreign policy, so deliberately belly-turning and cringing, so willing to bow and apologize, so lacking in firm resolve and response, and so unwilling to use any resources to establish strength that thugs and monsters around the globe are stepping out of their caves, confident the dragon is asleep. President Obama's foreign policy -- along with Hillary Clinton, while in state -- is one of weakness and inability, of public humiliation and incompetence. Without that resolve and strength shown in the past by greater presidents, Russia sees nothing to lose and is thumbing its nose at the west. What are they going to do? Europe could combine its entire armed forces and be too small to fight Russia, and America won't fight. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (39g3+) 156
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 21, 2016 03:29 PM (u82oZ)
--------------- Thanks for confirming. Even with all the smoke, I don't trust the Russians. Old Cold Warrior here. Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (uHcnA) 157
Ummm....question for ya. How can you assume a "mantle of leadership"
when every action taken by the U.S. in Syria does not meet any legal justification? Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM (d76uN) --You make up a legal justification. The legality of international actions is window dressing to disguise the realpolitik. Nations that really want to do something, do that thing, legal niceties be damned.In theory, the US would be helping rebel groups that are fighting Assad and ISIS. I'm sure a theory can be concocted as to how supporting them is material to the fight against ISIS. Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (3DSAh) 158
153 more likely have a sub sail by inverted so he can wag his junk at the russians.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:27 PM I wave my junk by you, roundeyes Posted by: Admiral Chin at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (VndSC) 159
We protected NATO countries way too long after the Cold War. They always expected us defend them while their idiot populaces marinated in socialism.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (66Sa/) Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (zu88C) 161
We just have one of our carriers do an inverted flyby and give them the finger.
Posted by: Mortimer ---------- Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers! Damned impressive. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (7H/2n) Mort, tell the truth. Are you Hillary and did you accidentally give up another classified secret about our flying carriers? Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:32 PM (KUaJL) 162
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
*** Assad is a client of Iran - so in the first part of his regime, Obama was supportive of him. But then ISIS led a revolt against Assad, and Obama switched sides, and when Obama says you have to go .... you have to go. Except he didn't. Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:33 PM (X7E8f) 163
6 warships, one sub and three support vessels, including a salvage tug. 10 ships total.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 21, 2016 03:33 PM (u82oZ) 164
if you look closely you can see the openings in the sides for the oars, just in case.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:33 PM (TWEt2) 165
>> Had you given the US Army the same latitude in
>> Iraq that the Russian Army had in Chechnya the >> post-Saddam part of the war wouldn't have ever >> even started.... On one hand, yes, Bush 43 let the modern military's lawfare tendencies run riot. On the other, lack thereof didn't really help the Soviets in Afghanistan... Posted by: JEM at October 21, 2016 03:33 PM (TppKb) 166
We just have one of our carriers do an inverted flyby and give them the finger.
Posted by: Mortimer ---------- Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers! Damned impressive. Posted by: Mike Hammer Inverted. Doubly impressive ! Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2016 03:33 PM (I1MCJ) 167
162 Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
He made a joke about Michelle wearing red eye-liner. Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:34 PM (VndSC) 168
That smoke could explain the "chemical incident" reported at London City Airport today
Posted by: josephistan at October 21, 2016 03:34 PM (7HtZB) 169
Mort, tell the truth. Are you Hillary and did you accidentally give up another classified secret about our flying carriers?
====== Dammit it just slipped out. I meant to say "frying terriers" , a JEF snacktime favorite. Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (zu88C) 170
The Royal Navy that has four active duty surface ships?
Per the googles: "As of August 2016, there are 77 commissioned ships in the Royal Navy. 19 of the commissioned vessels are major surface combatants (six guided missile destroyers and 13 frigates) and 11 are nuclear-powered submarines (four ballistic missile submarines and seven fleet submarines)" Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (mgbwf) 171
As for the ship - it's late-soviet vintage. Wonder the thing is under steam at all.
Still a beast. The Kirovs are far nastier, in my estimation, and certainly outclass the zumwalts. Sigh...there was a time when we were a nation of sailors and riflemen. Now, pajama boys and Twitter addicts.... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (NBViM) 172
Russia has obviously forgotten about all those great trucks we gave them in WWII.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (8ZskC) 173
its basically America being so feckless, incompetent, and foolish in its foreign policy
*** I remember when Obama said he was going to *finally* bomb ISIS's fuel convoys. It turns out what he actually did was told them when we would bomb them, let the people driving the trucks leave, and would then do a cursory bombing. Before of course letting ISIS steal more fuel trucks in Iraq. Brilliant! Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (X7E8f) 174
Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers!
Damned impressive. Posted by: Mike Hammer Area 51. Posted by: Roy at October 21, 2016 03:35 PM (VndSC) 175
well, it is less likely they are going to have mechanical trouble on the way to syria since it is downhill, however, when they are on the uphill leg on the way home it should be more interesting.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:36 PM (cPsPa) 176
What was our beef with syria?
Assad supported AQ insurgents ferry materiel down the Euphrates ratline to Fallujah. Posted by: 13times at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (WHVu+) 177
Wait, what was our beef with Assad, exactly?
---- He probably called Ms Syria fat or something. That's the kind of thing we get outraged over nowadays. Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 21, 2016 03:28 PM (KUaJL) ............ How could he tell if she's fat under that burka? Unless of course, if he grabbed her pussy. Posted by: wth at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (HgMAr) Posted by: cool breeze at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (StZrq) 179
Actually the real difference is will.
--Was talking about gear, not 'will'; different Ball of Wax, as the old folks used to say. But in re That, being subtle was never a Russian Thing Posted by: Billy Occam at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (/542q) 180
I'll admit, I giggle snorted my way through this.
Posted by: alexthechick - at least four feet too short at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (mf5HN) Posted by: Basic Underwater Demolition /Seals at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (JmjOe) 182
***Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers!
"That goddanm Clinton bitch. This is supposed to be secret!" Posted by: Nick Fury at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (Iy8pe) Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (zu88C) 184
Thanks for the info Bander. England may be losing its nads and withering away, but they are an island nation and need their navy, I couldn't see them giving up so much they only had for boats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:37 PM (39g3+) 185
That smoke could explain the "chemical incident" reported at London City Airport today
Sorry. I accidentally added beans to my carrot chili. Posted by: Abdul McAbdullyface at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (X5jRy) 186
On the other, lack thereof didn't really help the Soviets in Afghanistan...
*** My understanding is before Carter and Reagan started selling Masood weapons that Afghanistan was losing the war. PS: Carter also sold weapons to the Afghan Resistance PPS: The US sold weapons to the predecessor of the Northern Alliance, not the Taliban PPPS: Masood and co lost control of the country because Clinton stopped giving them support, and Pakistan supported the Taliban. Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (X7E8f) 187
just another reason why we must elect a seasoned knowledgeable serious professional like Hillary Clinton and not that orange-haired doofus who never paid any taxes and probably doesn't tip well.
Posted by: mallfly Cloggenstein of Rodham, VT at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (TWEt2) 188
So they are issued bottled oxygen when on deck? And who's Peat?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the hobo jerky was too salty' at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (OUobZ) 189
You just wait until I'm president and I unleash my armed to the teeth Toddler Army on these Russian bastards! Fear my wrath, Vlad!!
Posted by: Hillary! at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (qJhUV) 190
more likely the smoke is the soviet version of chemtrails.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:40 PM (cPsPa) 191
You just wait until I'm president and I unleash my armed to the teeth Toddler Army on these Russian bastards! Fear my wrath, Vlad!!
Posted by: Hillary! at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (qJhUV) "... and I want my fucking button back! **I loved that goddamned button. Fuckers." Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 21, 2016 03:40 PM (4ng05) 192
It's 4:20 on the ship, man
Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:40 PM (8ikIW) 193
"Make up a justification"
??? Is it ok for me to wish that who ever does that, meet the same fate, that the Nuremburg defendants did when they made up the "just following orders" defense. There is not one single valid reason for the United States or any other uninvited nation to have anything to do with Syria. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:41 PM (d76uN) Posted by: fixerupper at October 21, 2016 03:42 PM (JmjOe) 195
Twitter down again?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 21, 2016 03:42 PM (+FSld) 196
I knew a number of GPW vets when I was younger. They were proud Americans, and even used to march in whatever was left of their uniforms, but always covered in those pot-metal Soviet medals, in the veterans' day parades. Always used to think how glad we were friends at long last. And, well, here we are, and there you have it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:42 PM (NBViM) 197
Yeah I heard the ID sequel was pretty bad. That's disappointing, as dumb as it was, the first was pretty fun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (39g3+) 198
saw the Independence Day sequel last night.
I was underwhelmed. Posted by: fixerupper at October 21, 2016 03:42 PM (JmjOe) july 5th? Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (cPsPa) 199
171 As for the ship - it's late-soviet vintage. Wonder the thing is under steam at all.
The history of the ship I recounted in the OP is more or less accurate. In a tongue in cheek fashion, of course. Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (LxBcy) 200
>> 5 And a flotilla of tugs in case the peat is wet. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist For some reason this sounds subtly sexual. Posted by: Sphynx at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (OZmbA) 201
Judging from that picture, I'd say Mother Russia isn't worried about being attacked by China or the States. I'm figuring the greater threat is being attacked by rust, by barnacles, or by a shortage of old sneakers that is probably their primary fuel supply. For the sake of their proud telnyashka-wearing sailors, I hope the air is more breathable below decks than it appears to be above them.
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (iIzG7) 202
Yeah, it's being provocative, but it is the shortest route to get from the Baltic to the Med. Russia can't send any ships out of the Black Sea - it's kind of tough to run the Dardanelles. Ask Zombie Churchill about it,
Posted by: josephistan at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (7HtZB) 203
if we hadn't helped create this mess in Syria, Hillery wouldn't be able to talk about how we need to be admitting tens of thousands of refugees with passports printed at the local Quickie Print, because that's who we are.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (TWEt2) 204
Always used to think how glad we were friends at long last.
Yeah, I really would love to be friends with the Russians, I want to be allies and help them be strong and prosperous, but Russians gotta Russia and leftist gotta left. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (39g3+) Posted by: Vlad aka Jethro at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (8J/Te) Posted by: Bruce at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (8ikIW) 207
I LOL'ed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (sh70B) 208
Oh, please. I've seen the USNavy's plan to deal with this ship. Once we've deployed our new secret anti ship missles, it won't stand a chance.
Posted by: Hillary! at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (kTF2Z) 209
It's almost like it's time to take punishing, humiliating shots at Obama because, you know, what's he going to do and we might as well hit while that pussy is still in office?
This stunt, the Filipino Prez joining up with China and Russia. Heckuva a job, Barry! Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 21, 2016 03:44 PM (4ErVI) 210
You just wait until I'm president and I unleash my armed to the teeth Toddler Army on these Russian bastards! Fear my wrath, Vlad!!
Posted by: Hillary! at October 21, 2016 03:38 PM (qJhUV) *points wildly* SEE SEE HOW I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND HOW THEY'RE AWFUL AND ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU! *points wildly moar* Posted by: alexthechick - at least four feet too short at October 21, 2016 03:45 PM (mf5HN) 211
There are no good guys outside of Israel.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 21, 2016 03:45 PM (Iy8pe) 212
As for the ship - it's late-soviet vintage. Wonder the thing is under steam at all.
That ship isn't under steam. Look closely. It's under smog. Posted by: Qoheleth at October 21, 2016 03:45 PM (iIzG7) 213
single handed undoing all the air pollution gains of the western world. you go Russians
Posted by: talgus at October 21, 2016 03:46 PM (fJQAI) 214
it's kind of tough to run the Dardanelles. Ask Zombie Churchill about it,
You think the Turks would stop the Russkies? Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:46 PM (mgbwf) 215
Whatever happened to that Peace Dividend the pols used to always talk about back in the 90's?
Posted by: tu3031 at October 21, 2016 03:46 PM (qJhUV) Posted by: Captain America at October 21, 2016 03:46 PM (3Liv/) 217
re 201: GPW? Great Patriotic War, I'm guessing
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:47 PM (TWEt2) 218
Russia, good at hacking email, not good at carrier building.
Russia is not surrounded by oceans, other peoples dirt and Muslims but not oceans. Posted by: DaveA at October 21, 2016 03:47 PM (8J/Te) 219
Sorry. I accidentally added beans to my carrot chili. You have to use tofu in your carrot chili if you're going to go Full Cochran. Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (mgbwf) Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (Ya7zs) 221
???
Is it ok for me to wish that who ever does that, meet the same fate, that the Nuremburg defendants did when they made up the "just following orders" defense. There is not one single valid reason for the United States or any other uninvited nation to have anything to do with Syria. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:41 PM (d76uN) --You can wish for whatever you like. The world of international relations is a Hobbsian one, modern conventions notwithstanding. Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (3DSAh) 222
Sorry. I accidentally added beans to my carrot chili.
Posted by: Abdul McAbdullyface --------------- LOL A serious crossing of the Meme Beams Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (7H/2n) 223
heh, putin deliberately converted it to coal just ot piss off obama.
he should sail it up and down the east coast since nothing would piss obama off more than to have that hulk spewing greenhouse gasses all over his donors and raising the sea level obama has just lowered. Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (cPsPa) 224
Whatever happened to that Peace Dividend the pols used to always talk about back in the 90's?
Posted by: tu3031 at October 21, 2016 03:46 PM In the lockbox? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (bzd8I) 225
re 209: and prog idiots still seriously say that Obama restored our standing in the world.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (TWEt2) 226
I'm sure the Russians are super glad people are convinced they are the hackers behind Wikileaks despite no proof and only guesswork.
"yes. Yes, it Vas us comrade. Yes, we are that good. Da." Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (39g3+) 227
And probably last, but not least - deep fried cheesecake.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (Q6/bf) 228
This stunt, the Filipino Prez joining up with China and Russia. Heckuva a job, Barry! Posted by: Dack Thrombosis DAVAO, Philippines: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said on Friday he was not severing ties with his country's long-time ally the United States, but merely pursuing a more independent foreign policy by strengthening relations with China. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (IqV8l) 229
Sorry. I accidentally added beans to my carrot chili.
You have to use tofu in your carrot chili if you're going to go Full Cochran. Turkey tofu. Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (I1MCJ) 230
Reagan: Russia, don't irritate me, or you'll find yourself facing Ronnie's Marines!
Gorbachev: America, I'm not worried. I am protected by Mikhail's Navy! Posted by: Qoheleth at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (iIzG7) 231
single handed undoing all the air pollution gains of the western world. you go Russians>>>
I wonder if the Russians would rent it out for an earth day party. Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (tf9Ne) 232
Since Bill Clinton was impeached, is he still allowed in the White House? (this is not a serious question -- but I want it to become a meme for the LIV's benefit so they think about it and be reminded Bill Clinton was impeached for being a Workplace Sexual Predator) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (WE5/U) 233
Seems everything about 2016 has been no good nik.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (CFc5L) 234
153 We just have one of our carriers do an inverted flyby and give them the finger. Posted by: Mortimer ---------- Holy Hell, I didn't know that we have flying carriers! Damned impressive. WEll Of COURSE! I saw newsreel footage of it the last time I went to the movies. Funny though, one of the maintenance guys had this weird American flag suit on and carried this disc thingie... Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (HPNqc) 235
it is impossible to add beans to carrot chili.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (cPsPa) 236
re 215: Clinton Foundation.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (TWEt2) 237
Yeah, it's being provocative, but it is the shortest route to get from the Baltic to the Med. Russia can't send any ships out of the Black Sea - it's kind of tough to run the Dardanelles. Ask Zombie Churchill about it,
Posted by: josephistan at October 21, 2016 03:43 PM (7HtZB) Eh, it wasn't that bad. Posted by: ZombieChurchill at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (h6BP/) 238
217. Yep. They ALL called it that. 'Not for Stalin; against Hitler,' as one of them said.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (NBViM) 239
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 21, 2016 03:42 PM (+FSld) not for me in SW Pa.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 03:50 PM (y3aQB) 240
and prog idiots still seriously say that Obama restored our standing in the world.
They believe that being more like Canada is better standing - the nice guys everyone likes but nobody fears or cares what they do or say. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (39g3+) 241
I can remember when we called that ship the "Cuts Nuts Off" because it carried the SS-N-22 Sunburn, which at the time was the "oh, shit" surface to surface antiship missile.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (GUBah) 242
Whatever happened to that Peace Dividend the pols used to always talk about back in the 90's?
Posted by: tu3031 --------- We spent on Solyndra, and Sensitivity Training Courses. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (7H/2n) 243
Pretty clear that the argument has passed you by. You are wanting to make "good guys" when there are none.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (d76uN) 244
And probably last, but not least - deep fried cheesecake.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (Q6/bf) ------------------ I admire your dedication. You've eaten your way through that whole fair, haven't you. Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (uHcnA) 245
Served onboard the USS MIDWAY in the mid to late 1980s and that is exactly what our stack looked like. Very old Oil burner.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 21, 2016 03:51 PM (iONHu) 246
well, we had flying aircraft carriers, but obama changed the navy's mission to muslim outreach so we had to cut them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:52 PM (cPsPa) Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at October 21, 2016 03:52 PM (QM5S2) 248
re 232: I believe he was impeached for lying about it, don't recall the details, but I'm pretty sure the MSM didn't care much about stories about Clinton's sexual antics when he was running in 1992.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:52 PM (TWEt2) 249
And probably last, but not least - deep fried cheesecake.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (Q6/bf) Go on . . . . Posted by: alexthechick - at least four feet too short at October 21, 2016 03:52 PM (mf5HN) 250
Whatever happened to that Peace Dividend the pols used to always talk about back in the 90's?
It balanced the budget, and then the GOP took over the government and spent like madmen, followed by Democrats, who spent even harder. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+) 251
Putin has been spending shitloads to upgrade the Russian military but didn't build new carriers?
On the other hand, carriers themselves might be obsolete in the way wars are fought in the 21st century, much like battleships were at the dawn of WW II. Or maybe he figured he didn't see the point in waving your dick off a coastline 10,000 miles away. Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (Ya7zs) 252
And my memory failed me. It carried the SS-N-19s (aka Shipwreck). Sigh, I need some more coffee.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (GUBah) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (WE5/U) 254
and prog idiots still seriously say that Obama restored our standing in the world.
well you have to remember, these are the people who like to spend their spare time doling out free blowjobs on the weekend, so "standing" is a relative term Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (cPsPa) 255
I must break you.
Posted by: Vlad 'Drago' Putin at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (ZKlDy) 256
Sorry. I accidentally added beans to my carrot chili.
You have to use tofu in your carrot chili if you're going to go Full Cochran. Turkey tofu. Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2016 03:49 PM (I1MCJ) ------------------ Have a heart, you guys. The poor guy isn't even here to defend himself. Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2016 03:53 PM (uHcnA) 257
Revenant is a student of history, and knows human nature. There is no law between nations - only the imposition of the strong upon the weak.
The world is a dark and ugly and dirty place, and the sooner we remember that, the better. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 03:54 PM (NBViM) 258
I believe he was impeached for lying about it,
Yes, he was impeached for the perjury, not the infidelity. And I have to say that a man is honor bound to lie about infidelity. Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 21, 2016 03:54 PM (mgbwf) 259
I can't lie. I like big boats.
Posted by: Sir Mix-a-lot at October 21, 2016 03:54 PM (mBYZv) 260
(this is not a serious question -- but I want it to become a meme for the LIV's benefit so they think about it and be reminded Bill Clinton was impeached for being a Workplace Sexual Predator)
Posted by: Soothsayer -------------- Someone should put up posters around 1600 Pennsylvania, warning that a sexual predator is moving into the neighborhood. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:55 PM (7H/2n) 261
I believe he was impeached for lying about it, Yes, he was impeached for perjury. The republicans pussed out. And then R's in the Senate really pussed out and nixed the whole thing. Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:55 PM (WE5/U) 262
And I have to say that a man is honor bound to lie about infidelity.
Once he's been unfaithful to his wife, he has no honor left to defend. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+) 263
Well, upon seeing this news this morning, I now also demand that an armed to the teeth Toddler NAVY now be formed to respond to these Russian bastards!
Posted by: Hillary! at October 21, 2016 03:55 PM (qJhUV) 264
https://tinyurl.com/jb86xpm
Department of Homeland Security launches urgent investigation as massive ongoing series of cyber attacks takes down sites including Amazon, Spotify, Reddit and Twitter Github, SoundCloud and PayPal also reported to be down Some of Amazon's cloud services also believed to have been hit Outage appeared to be primarily affecting web users on the US East Coast Second wave of attacks began around 1PM ET Department of Homeland Security 'investigating all potential causes' The ongoing interruption of its network resulting from a DDoS attack DDoS attacks are a primitive form of hacking using botnets - networks of computers that hackers bring under their control ANONYMOUS claim to fame Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 03:55 PM (y3aQB) 265
Someone should put up posters around 1600 Pennsylvania, warning that a sexual predator is moving into the neighborhood. Genius! Budweiser ought to make a tv commercial about you, Mister Republican Snark Creator. Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:56 PM (WE5/U) 266
They only have one you say ....
Interesting ... Nice little heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser you have there ... Hate to see a stray "defective Iranian torpedo" hit it ... Posted by: RNR at October 21, 2016 03:56 PM (OuJcq) 267
Tell Vladimir that I will be more flexible the next time he wants to fold me in half and fuck me.
I've been doing Pilates. Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (i3c+H) 268
re 250: don't forget, we had the 1999 dot com crash and I recall Bush inheriting a mild recession plus 9/11, but yes, Bush and the Repub Congress were 'compassionate conservatives."
On the other hand, Gore probably would have also blown the surplus if he'd won and we'd probably still be negotiating with the Taliban about arresting bin Laden. Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (TWEt2) 269
Said it was corrected, but I still can't get to Twatter.
Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (9iR5/) 270
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 03:56 PM (WE5/U) CRUDweiser SUCKS !
Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (y3aQB) 271
The world is a dark and ugly and dirty place, and the sooner we remember that, the better.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine --------- But, but... we have Dancing With the Stars! Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (7H/2n) 272
Rep Brian Babin agrees, Hillary is nasty. Pelosi uses it in a positive way.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 21, 2016 03:58 PM (mBYZv) 273
Here's hoping a blackout only affects areas of the country that lean heavily democrat on election day.
And then when they scream RIGGED Trump-Elect can say, didn't you all just spend the last 3 weeks insisting the election can't be rigged? oh the lolzlzlz that would give me... Posted by: #NeverHillary - I Love Trish Regan Sexually at October 21, 2016 03:58 PM (6RZuW) 274
Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at October 21, 2016 03:57 PM (9iR5/)
Try this site https://tinyurl.com/afmexlp Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 03:59 PM (y3aQB) 275
Beware the Corgi Missiles!
http://www.vectis.co.uk/AuctionImages/241/893_l.jpg Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (Ya7zs) Bet those are now worth a small fortune... Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (wtvvX) 276
an update to the Mosul attack over at The Free Beacon Terrorists Cornered in Kirkuk After Complex Attack ISIS counterattacks in another district after campaign to take back Mosul begins http://freebeacon.com/national-security/isis-terrorists-cornered-in-kirkuk-after-complex-attack/ Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (qCMvj) 277
Someone should put up posters around 1600 Pennsylvania, warning that a sexual predator is moving into the neighborhood.
Isn't that the law, if a serial sex offender moves in they have to alert the neighbors? You can kill 87 people and move in without warning anyone but sex offenders have to warn everybody. You can steal 800,000 worth of art but never warn anyone a thief is moving in next door. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (39g3+) 278
Mike Hammer, did you receive a DVD?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (Iy8pe) 279
even worse than the pollution is the fact that they have all the free pop you can drink and fried meat with every meal. menu only says meat though.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (cPsPa) 280
"Say, not to panic anybody, but what if the (attacks) today were practice for 11/8 ?" high-profile pundit Keith Olbermann tweeted."
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 21, 2016 04:01 PM (bQxkN) 281
Well, at least the dems now have a new picture to use the next time they have a rally "promoting our troops."
Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2016 04:02 PM (xttKs) 282
ot heh. also over at the free beacon, a video Biden Rips Into Trump: I Wish 'I Could Take Him Behind the Gym' and do what Joey? http://freebeacon.com/ Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 21, 2016 04:02 PM (qCMvj) 283
re 261: again, as I recall the House impeachment managers wanted to bring charges against Bill C for taking illegal campaign contributions and changing policies (like selling high tech to China) but the Senate leaders said no, apparently under pressure from the Dems. You can almost imagine go-along-to-get-along McCain going along with that, although I don't recall anything about him and the impeachment process
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 04:02 PM (TWEt2) Posted by: An Observation at October 21, 2016 04:03 PM (TsLsv) 285
"The world is a dark and ugly and dirty place, and the sooner we remember that, the better. "
That would true if the omabanite administration had any understanding of their real weaknesses. They don't. It doesn't take a student of history to understand that there is no realpolitik involved here. It is mere wishful thinking. It doesn't take a student of history to show that the obamanites don't have the upper hand and that any show of fangs by them will be laughed at by the real animals in the yard. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 21, 2016 04:03 PM (d76uN) 286
re 273: that's not rigged, that's stolen. Get your Democrat talking point straight.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 04:04 PM (TWEt2) 287
271. It is funny, isn't it? We act as if History ended and all the world's just a series of twitter and instagram postings - witness Harf et al and their hashtag campaigns - and there's nothing but social media and the latest SJW obsession to occupy us.
And yet, men fight and fight and kill and die , as we have since our first ancestors learned to make war. Almost as if there's such a thing as human nature..... Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at October 21, 2016 04:04 PM (GE0i4) 288
"Say, not to panic anybody, but what if the (attacks) today were practice for 11/8 ?"
What exactly would it accomplish to shut down twitter on election day? I mean other than frustrate addicted social media types? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2016 04:04 PM (39g3+) 289
Why do we think it's the Russians? I'm thinking that the Internet hijinks could just as well be an election-day rehearsal by Fredo's Homeland Security.
Posted by: Soona at October 21, 2016 04:05 PM (Fmupd) 290
My eyes are up here.
Posted by: Cristina Aguilera at October 21, 2016 04:05 PM (TsLsv) 291
They only have one you say ....
Interesting ... They used to have 2 but sold one to India (Gorshkov), and proceeded to make them pay through the nose to have it refitted in a Russian shipyard. Posted by: tu3031 at October 21, 2016 04:05 PM (qJhUV) 292
ANONYMOUS claim to fame
--- Unfortunately we'll never know for sure since they don't have a VP that broadcasts their cyberattacks ahead of time. Posted by: Captain America at October 21, 2016 04:05 PM (3Liv/) 293
re 288: how would people like Olbermann share their talking points? Oh, I know, missing Olbermann's wisdom for a day might be hard, like George Burns was hard at 98, but you know how some people are, and it starts with S and rhymes with cupid.
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 04:07 PM (TWEt2) 294
Four fucking minutes!
Posted by: Hillary at October 21, 2016 04:07 PM (wwOpQ) 295
My eyes are up here.
Posted by: Cristina Aguilera You must not have watched the Al Smith dinner. Posted by: Maria Bartiromo at October 21, 2016 04:07 PM (mgbwf) Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2016 04:07 PM (I1MCJ) 297
re 298: Miss Lindsay posting here..?
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 21, 2016 04:08 PM (TWEt2) Posted by: Soothsayer at October 21, 2016 04:08 PM (WE5/U) 299
I do think Hilldog is right about one thing, the Russkies would prefer Trump. I don't believe Putin wants WWIII and Obama/Kerry/Clinton could well buffoon the world into it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 21, 2016 04:08 PM (Nwg0u) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2016 04:08 PM (7H/2n) 301
301 Four fucking minutes!
Posted by: Hillary at October 21, 2016 04:07 PM (wwOpQ) === LOL! Gawd, what a world. Posted by: washrivergal at October 21, 2016 04:08 PM (CFc5L) 302
Nood male nudes or something
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2016 04:09 PM (sWbjH) 303
...high-profile pundit Keith Olbermann tweeted.
Ummmmm...high profile pundit? Who made that call? Posted by: tu3031 at October 21, 2016 04:09 PM (qJhUV) 304
275 Beware the Corgi Missiles!
http://www.vectis.co.uk/AuctionImages/241/893_l.jpg Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2016 03:48 PM (Ya7zs) Bet those are now worth a small fortune... Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 21, 2016 04:00 PM (wtvvX) $120 bucks Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 21, 2016 04:09 PM (/D5Lf) 305
>>Biden Rips Into Trump: I Wish 'I Could Take Him Behind the Gym
Remember how Garrett Morris on SNL did that skit where he was the translator of a live speech for the hearing impaired, and he just shouted out what the speaker said with greater volume? I feel like Biden is the "LIV Whisperer/Translator" for this administration, he's there to dumb down each of the administration's Trump criticism so that even the the most moronic (small 'm') Americans can get it. Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2016 04:10 PM (NOIQH) 306
"Judging from the stack gas, her power plant appears to have been converted to one burning firewood, or possibly peat."
- Fools! We use green energy. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 21, 2016 04:11 PM (Nwg0u) 307
Let's jump off the deep end. What if the carrier gets sunk off the coast of Syria. We know has a questionable refit.
Posted by: Picric at October 21, 2016 04:18 PM (Fyhp4) 308
I'd like to point out that it's most amusing that all this hyperventilating about a DDoS attack (which, by the by, I can connect to those sites just fine here in Flyover Jesusland) always fails to note one of the services affected is ActBlue...which handles online donations for the Democratic Party.
Oh, and guess what areas seem to be affected by teh DDoS? This shouldn't be difficult... Posted by: Brother Cavil, deplorably down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 21, 2016 04:19 PM (9krrF) 309
Donald Trump's rhetoric is clearly to blame for the DDos attack.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 04:28 PM (y3aQB) 310
257: Thanks -- that's spot on.
Posted by: Revenant at October 21, 2016 04:29 PM (3DSAh) Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 21, 2016 04:31 PM (QtQaN) 312
https://tinyurl.com/zn7qwo9 Fox News Analyst and Clinton Operative, Douglas E. Schoen, Accepted Millions of Dollars to Agitate for War with Russia
Posted by: Evilpens at October 21, 2016 04:33 PM (y3aQB) 313
151 Russian military stuff always did range from sh*tty to passable, but they make it up in volume
*** Actually the real difference is will. Had you given the US Army the same latitude in Iraq that the Russian Army had in Chechnya the post-Saddam part of the war wouldn't have ever even started.... Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2016 03:31 PM (X7E8f) Adolf and Hirohito beg to differ. Posted by: Avi at October 21, 2016 04:41 PM (ir/G5) 314
"heh, putin deliberately converted it to coal just ot piss off obama.
he should sail it up and down the east coast since nothing would piss obama off more than to have that hulk spewing greenhouse gasses all over his donors and raising the sea level obama has just lowered." -------- Speaking about donors, I suppose after January Obama will start his own foundation to fleece billionaires and foreign dictators with promises of influence in a future Michelle Obama administration. If it's working for Clintons why not Obamas? Besides Clintons are only following the long held Argentinian tradition. Who said Americans have nothing to learn from the Latinos? Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2016 04:51 PM (8zHLN) 315
"Biden Rips Into Trump: I Wish 'I Could Take Him Behind the Gym' "
For some reason this reminds me of Simon and Garfunkle's "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard." Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 21, 2016 05:09 PM (97XyN) 316
Nice to see someone else has cost and schedule over runs.
Posted by: Jean at October 21, 2016 05:13 PM (H9+7t) 317
I smell a rat. Let's not forget Putin's background -- KGB through and through. Is it possible he's playing some sort of shell game? Distract the gullible NATO with the Kuznetsov transiting the English Channel while something entirely different is happening elsewhere?
Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at October 21, 2016 05:22 PM (aQ3UV) Posted by: 80's music fan at October 21, 2016 05:34 PM (q29nF) 319
I think the other major ship in the task force, Peter the Great a Kirov class missile battlecruiser, is more interesting. The Kirov class was the largest non-carrier/amphibious warships built since WW II.
Posted by: Michael K at October 21, 2016 06:08 PM (O7ZEr) 320
For Russia (and China, since their only carrier is also an ex-Soviet hull), their carrier really only serves two purposes. 1.). Propaganda for showing the flag. 2.). Start the *very* long process of figuring out operational procedures for carrier crews. It's a long, slow, laborious process, and no one is anywhere near as good at it as the USN - for good reason.
Probably also why the Japanese are now building "helicopter destroyers". Posted by: junior at October 21, 2016 06:21 PM (d/pkP) 321
Peat or firewood??? Lol. Yeah ok. Maybe we could refit a Nimitz-class to coal
Posted by: Rick554 at October 21, 2016 06:26 PM (GjAer) 322
Maybe Putin can enter the carrier in Iowahawk's earth day competition.
Posted by: Octiparan at October 21, 2016 06:29 PM (7cl3r) 323
First generation Russki stealth technology. Called a smokescreen. No can see!
To be waiting for eggbeaters to start flying around and dropping lead based Christmas tree tinsel. Bwahaha! Invisible to radar! Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 21, 2016 06:59 PM (FtrY1) 324
In 1970 while aboard a USN aircraft carrier ( a real one) we had the Moskava, I believe sister ship to this one, operating around us. She would send helicopters across our flight deck while we were conducting flight ops.
Posted by: lynndh at October 21, 2016 10:13 PM (DaWUf) 325
This rushkie carrier thread humor quality ranks up with some of the best over the years on AoS. Many thumbs up. Wish it could go on, and on, and on...
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