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Post Debate ONT - Buy Stock in Liquor Companies. On Second Thought, Just Buy Liquor. By the Case [Weirddave]

Well, that's over. Now we can all contemplate the glorious future that awaits us. Our American flock is indeed fortunate to have one of two such fine shepherds to lead us.

Quotes


Quote of the Week 1

Basically, Trump is everything wrong with America’s culture, and Hillary is everything wrong with our government. -Allahpundit

Quote of the Week 2

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It must be boring to be so predictable.

Feel Good News


Bystanders form human chain to help driver out of overturned car on Florida highway

The footage isn't that dramatic, but it does show ordinary Americans doing what ordinary Americans do best: Answering the call when needed. The fire department arrives at the end of the video, but by that time bystanders and a couple of cops had already wrestled the guy up the embankment and his car was pretty well involved with fire below. They might not have been able to save him-just as a time sensitive matter. This is characteristic of a high-trust society. In a low-trust society, one characterized by amongst other things a population inculcated into dependence on government to solve all problems, people would be more likely to stand around wringing their hands wondering where the firemen were to help that poor man. John Ringo has a lot of interesting thoughts on this in his excellent book The Last Centurion. It's one of the reasons the U.S. survives the global plague, despite having an incompetent Hillary analogue as president. It's a good book, I recommend it.

On the other hand, I'm very glad we have trained firemen and rescue personal on call in our society. I have no qualms about local governments furnishing them, I think it's a proper function. I'm a limited government guy, not a no-government guy, a distinction that many on the left deliberately refuse to make.


Hikers rescued after spending night trapped on Eaton Canyon cliff


Other Proper Government Functions


Italy has a new wine fountain that dispenses FREE wine ALL day

wine.jpg

Another reason to plan your next vacation in Italy.


How Do We Get it Back?


I dunno. Ted Cruz got a raft of shit from all of the usual suspects when he tweeted a link to this story:


Why conservatives will need a new party if/when Hillary wins


It's a good question. The GOP isn't especially conservative now, even if Hillary were to lose, a Trumpified one would be even less so. The answer is taking it over from the bottom up. There's a lot of that going on, but I'm no longer sure we have enough time left for that to produce results before the center can not hold anymore. Kurt Schlichter has written two books; in Conservative Insurgency, that tactic succeeds. In People's Republic, it doesn't. Guess which one he wrote more recently?

Not All Heroes Wear Capes

Hallucinating Man Breaks Into Neighbor's House to Save Dog from Imaginary Fire


Drugs, Part II


Warning: There is a hard video to watch at the link. I'll describe it, avoid clicking if you don't want to watch.

‘Mommy Died Last Night’: Dad Records Son’s Heartbreaking Reaction to Mom’s Drug Overdose

The title pretty much describes the video. The question is, of course, one of exploiting grief for clicks. The father of the 8 year old boy in the video, himself a recovering heroin addict, posted it to his Face Book page. He said:

This wasn’t staged. This was real. I had someone record this so addicts with children can see the seriousness of our epidemic. Don’t let this disease have to make someone tell your child that your [sic] dead because of drugs. This was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, please get help so our children don’t have to suffer.

I tend to believe the father about his motives, trying desperately to rescue some small good from a tragic situation.

Time Magazine's motives I'm not so sure about.


A Rolling Cheese Gathers Mo' Lawyers


B.C. Supreme Court lawsuit claims girl's leg broken when she was struck by a 5 kg wheel of cheddar


I'm sympathetic to the parent, nobody wants their child injured, but she voluntarily attended an event where she knew big cheese wheels would be hurtling down hills. She chose where to stand to watch. Maybe a modicum of personal responsibility here? Just a tincture?


The Costume's an Unlicensed Knockoff, but the Marketing Guy's a Genius


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Naked Ninja

The full story. The commentary is pure gold.


Angel's Glow

150 Years Later We May Have an Explanation for The Strange “Angel’s Glow” of Civil War Troops

Fascinating theory. It would explain a long standing mystery. Explanation at link.


Remember This When You Read About How Donald Trump is "Degrading"


Disney couples sexting. Cosmo, of course.


Happy Birthday U.S. Navy

This was supposed to go on last Wednesday's ONT, since last Thursday was the actual, you know, birthday, but I somehow left it out.

On October 13, 1775, the Continental Congress established the U.S. Navy:

Resolved, that a swift sailing vessel, to carry ten carriage guns, and a proportionable number of swivels, with eighty men, be fitted, with all possible despatch, for a cruise of three months, and that the commander be instructed to cruize eastward, for intercepting such transports as may be laden with warlike stores and other supplies for our enemies, and for such other purposes as the Congress shall direct

I don't care if you were an Airdale or a Pecker Checker, a Bubblehead or a Deck Ape, a Rope Dope or a Turd Chaser, much gratitude for your defense of our country. I know Village Idiot's Apprentice, NACL Salt and Navycopjoe all served in the Navy, any other Squids in residence?


Tonight's ONT brought to you by post debate blues:


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Comments

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1 Wow Allah quote #1 actually good

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:51 PM (/22Vh)

2 After no one let me know of new threads all evening, I enjoy dancing by myself

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:51 PM (/22Vh)

3 I'm not going to get the others

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:52 PM (/22Vh)

4 test

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2016 10:52 PM (XoldI)

5 My hot take on the debate:

It's clear to me now that our number one problem is Toddlers With Guns.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (rJUlF)

6 You testing my dancing, David?

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (/22Vh)

7 Hello, my lovelies.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (21hN3)

8 yeah for the cubs!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (0O7c5)

9 "We passed gun control because of toddlers! You can't own guns because there are 2 year olds that take them and shoot everyone!

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (/22Vh)

10 yeah for the indians!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at October 19, 2016 10:53 PM (0O7c5)

11 let the series go to 7 games, extra innings

Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at October 19, 2016 10:54 PM (0O7c5)

12 I thought Alkahpundit was perfectly fine with the culture? When did he become conservative?

I thought he said he was an atheist gay marriage supporter.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 10:55 PM (8zHLN)

13 friends son finished boot camp today.....other friends son went to boot camp today....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at October 19, 2016 10:56 PM (0O7c5)

14 I thought Trump left a lot of meatballs on the table:

- on the "no fly zone": should have said that these only work when they are enforced, and that means firing on Russian planes if they test it - which they will - so it's a bad idea. The freakin' moderator understood this and called Hillary on it. Trump didn't, so well.

- on accepting the results of the election: should have mentioned Gore and Kerry, and said "I will ensure that the people who voted for me don't get cheated". He could have tied that with that earlier statement he also didn't make, and make explicit that promises are only as good as one's will to follow up on them.

I did like DJT's answer to Hillary's smears about forced groping, though. That might help him among the women around here.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 10:56 PM (6FqZa)

15 I know people here don't think much of Allah (the prophet and the pundit), but I think it was him that wrote an article about the rebel flag that won a little piece of my heart during the SC debacle.

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:56 PM (/22Vh)

16 Dodgers falling apart. 10-2 Cubs

Posted by: tu3031 at October 19, 2016 10:57 PM (qJhUV)

17 They talked about Aleppo in the debate again. Every time that word comes up, I can't help but think about that bit from The 70's Show.


Steven Hyde: You have to be aloof.
Fez: Did you just call me a 'loof'? Because if so, I'll have to kick you in your nads.
Steven Hyde: No man, aloof. Distant, zen...
Fez: Well, that's not what a loof means in my language.
Steven Hyde: Look, I don't care what you think it means. That's what it means here.
Fez: You're the loof.
Steven Hyde: Hey Fez...
Fez: ...I SAID LOOF.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 19, 2016 10:57 PM (R+30W)

18 A little cheezy 80s mood music:

https://youtu.be/VgHW5QSLE3E

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 19, 2016 10:57 PM (rJUlF)

19 I don't think it's a foregone conclusion Hillary wins.

She's horrible.


Hillary is also everything that's wrong with our culture.

Fuck Allahpundit. What a dick name anyway.

Posted by: eleven at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (qUNWi)

20 Have 8 bit farm girl sent to my chambers. and don't bother us til Sunday.

Posted by: moronhordeminion, exchequer of the realm at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (cPdbv)

21 it would be really Great if you could stop quoting Taco Bell Gas

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (y3aQB)

22 USN 1971-1975

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (IqV8l)

23 So who won the debate?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (oyTLT)

24 - on the "no fly zone": should have said that these only work when they are enforced, and that means firing on Russian planes if they test it - which they will - so it's a bad idea. The freakin' moderator understood this and called Hillary on it. Trump didn't, so well.

-------

I guess Trump could have strangled it out of her. She did answer Wallace btw

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (BS8yt)

25 Another meatball (Cruz would have been better here):

- The Constitution is a sacred pact of the American people, and if the judges just sway with the popular will, the Constitution and the rule of law mean nothing. I'd not have bothered with the abortion stuff at all, I'd have said Roe v Wade is just bad law and so bad in itself.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

26 I don't care if you love Trump or hate him, this is awesome.
http://tinyurl.com/zejnrac

Posted by: josephistan at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (7qAYi)

27 Allahpundit blows goats.

Posted by: Brad at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (LSB34)

28 Who won the debate? Trump. Who will win the election? Prolly Hillary. So pick your question

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (/22Vh)

29 "It's a good question. The GOP isn't especially conservative now, even if Hillary were to lose, a Trumpified one would be even less so. The answer is taking it over from the bottom up. There's a lot of that going on, but I'm no longer sure we have enough time left for that to produce results before the center can not hold anymore. Kurt Schlichter has written two books; in Conservative Insurgency, that tactic succeeds. In People's Republic it doesn't. Guess which one he wrote more recently?"

------

Weirddave, Trump is the insurgency.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (8zHLN)

30 >>> Italy has a new wine fountain that dispenses FREE wine ALL day <<<




Pfft.

Posted by: Jesus at October 19, 2016 11:00 PM (Kj2zW)

31 How do we get it back? Probably can't.

It's Takers vs Makers, and the Takers out-number the Makers.

Any attempt by the Makers to hang on to their own will be crushed.


Posted by: Galt at October 19, 2016 11:00 PM (XoldI)

32 AnalPundit is a nevertrumping fuckweenie who can suck my dick.

But first, he will blow me.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:00 PM (bH+An)

33 Science and Racism, or Why Witches Throwing Magical Lightning Bolts Don't Exist

Just as Feminists consider science to by Sexist and a plot of The Patriarchy, it is claimed that Science is Racist and a tool of oppression wielded by the White oppressor. The solution that is proffered is to "decolonize" science and replace objective scientific reality with a more magic friendly "science".

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12632

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2016 11:00 PM (vBeA5)

34 23 So who won the debate?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (oyTLT)

Chaos, which is all there will be, in the end.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:00 PM (cC/ZB)

35 She did NOT answer Wallace


is what I meant to write

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:01 PM (BS8yt)

36 Bill Bennett on Fox? Well, they are in Vegas.

Why should Trump accept the election results? They're provoking violence at his rallies...they want bananas, we'll give 'em...artichokes.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 19, 2016 11:01 PM (n3MnG)

37 Takers Mark vs Makers Mark.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2016 11:01 PM (IqV8l)

38 Okay, does anyone have the scoop on what happened with Allahpundit? I remember when he was funny.

Allah was like ace, but with photoshop.

And then something happened. I've seen rumblings, I ask, no one talks.

So...drugs?

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2016 11:01 PM (ACqhm)

39 I loved Donald's answer on rebuilding American industrial might.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (BS8yt)

40 on the "no fly zone":
***
If Trump where a better campaigner he would simply and consistently that the election of Hillary Clinton means war with Russia, on behalf of ISIS

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (oyTLT)

41 Luntz's dunces say 14-12 Trump won vs. Hillary.

He needs ads about how he will stimulate the economy while Hillary will make it worse.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (hVdx9)

42 23 So who won the debate?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (oyTLT)

Luntz's Dunces gave the edge to Trump.

CNN's snap poll will show Hillary won 67% to 22% with a +97 Democratic sample.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (bH+An)

43 btw, btw:

... and lou whitaker's offensive stats are comparable to trammel's and his fielding pct is even better!

bill james calls whitaker the 13th greatest second baseman in history.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (WTSFk)

44 USN.... Ret...

Posted by: Don Q... at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (qf6WZ)

45 Well, he won the debate on points, but I just don't know if it will be enough. Thankfully, we get the abandoned Hot Air's leading ombudsmen opinion on the topic. Seriously, Allah doesn't think Hillary fits both those descriptions? How is she not worse on the culture than Donald?

Trump has not enabled a serial rapist for thirty years nor has imprisoned innocent men over fake videos nor benefited in actually causing violence to people that disagree with her.

The point being she is equally incompetent, immoral and corrupt. Trump is just your crude businessman trying to get a job done and mostly just hot air in his faults. While, Hillary odor smells more like sulfur and cheap liquor.

Posted by: Lazzeri Scooter at October 19, 2016 11:02 PM (DDHnM)

46 I disappointed but not quite despondent!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (wCEn4)

47 New poll out of Utah.

Hillary is coming in 3rd:

https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/788833184037400576

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (vBeA5)

48 Bill Bennett on Fox? Well, they are in Vegas.
******************

That's harsh man.

Funny as hell, but harsh.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (bH+An)

49 So I am back to this - we are left to hope for Brexit-like polling.

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (ACqhm)

50 The reason he is "Allahpundit" in the first place is because he started out mocking Islam in the "Allah Is In Da House" blog. That's how people like Ace and Jeff Goldstein found out about him, and Glenn Reynolds after them.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (6FqZa)

51 Hillary's only chance is to shame Trump supporters into staying home. I've had a few friends go wobbly, but now they're coming back to reality.

This election has really made me understand how totalitarian regimes can control their people through peer pressure, shaming, and fear.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (wgFcF)

52 36 Bill Bennett on Fox? Well, they are in Vegas.

Why should Trump accept the election results? They're provoking violence at his rallies...they want bananas, we'll give 'em...artichokes.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 19, 2016 11:01 PM (n3MnG)

More... the latest O'Keefe video has them talking about how they would steal the election.

Posted by: Don Q... at October 19, 2016 11:04 PM (qf6WZ)

53 Now don't go naked ninja'n anybody that don't need naked ninja'n.

Posted by: garrett at October 19, 2016 11:04 PM (nf6uC)

54 The Dunces also want it explained why Hillary (or Trump) is unfit to be president.
Also ads about NAFTA and TPP like he did in the debate. The LIVs liked him better there.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)

55 Spent 4 years in the Navy as a Supply Officer, 1988 - 1992. Three years on the U.S.S. Camden (AOE-2) out of Bremerton Washington. Made LT on the day I got out.

It was a great experience that I'll never forget.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (wZNPg)

56 Just gotta get off my chest:

Dodgers are the all-time chokingest bunch of choking chokers I've ever seen in the entire chokerverse. Bunch of overpaid chokers.

That is all.

Posted by: NSA Snipers at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (NlMkN)

57 Same old media trick regarding "accepting the results of the election."

Hillary's campaign caught red-handed on video bragging about voter fraud, and the media either downplays it or outright refuses to cover it, and instead tries to get Trump to agree in advance to swallow any all voter fraud that may be evident.

Their plan was later, if there are shenanigans in a particular state and Trump considers contesting those results, the media wanted to jump on him and say "but you promised not to contest any of the results."

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (hA1V+)

58 This election has really made me understand how totalitarian regimes can control their people through peer pressure, shaming, and fear.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (wgFcF)



SWAT teams (in every federal agency) and camps help a lot as well!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (wCEn4)

59 Oops, off nefarious sock.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (NlMkN)

60
VoxRomani
19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)

61 Luntz's dunces say 14-12 Trump won vs. Hillary.

I'd have ranked it 14-12-6, with the 6 being the points Trump missed and should have picked up.

Someone else said Trump won on points. Sounds about right to me. Wish he'd scored more points.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (6FqZa)

62 I feel good about the debate, Trump painted Hillary as an incompetent decision maker.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (BS8yt)

63 Why has everyone forgotten Bush v Gore.

Gore did not concede. No pressies saying that was the end of Democracy then.

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2016 11:06 PM (ACqhm)

64 11 years in the Navy. Got out in 2011 and grew a beard.

Posted by: wilyliam at October 19, 2016 11:06 PM (gsn6e)

65 Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (hA1V+)

Didn't our glorious GOP leaders essentially agree several years ago not to investigate any voter fraud claims!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:06 PM (wCEn4)

66 Republicans pounce on heavily edited activist videos that they claim show unfair campaign tactics by the Hillary Camp.

We didn't even get this headline out of the okeefe vids. Now they will be buried in post debate pearl clutching over the contested election results line and the new bimbo eruptions.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 19, 2016 11:07 PM (dnWSK)

67 ONT. I can breathe.
Ace was great tonight.

So, Cubbies won too?

Posted by: L, Elle at October 19, 2016 11:07 PM (6IPEM)

68 19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)


----

Let's see if the media covers it

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:07 PM (BS8yt)

69 "Basically, Trump is everything wrong with America's culture, and Hillary is everything wrong with our government. -Allahpundit"

_Warm Flatus_ can't dry up and blow away soon enough.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:07 PM (noWW6)

70 blaster, Kerry refusing to accept reality in Ohio in 2004 was even worse. Even after he'd been blown out in the popular vote, and it was clear Ohio was not going his way. That was close to a coup against the American government IMO.

Kerry should have been hanged for treason long before he entered politics, but that's a whole 'nother story.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (6FqZa)

71 So who won the debate?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (oyTLT)



Trump won definitely but probably narrowly.

Hillary literally never answered a question. She would just pivot to the attack points against Trump she memorized over the last week of solitude.

At one point, she just brought up Putin out of nowhere. It was sadly hilarious.


But, we'll see.

I suppose low IQ, LIV women may respond to her constant lame pandering, but who knows?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (9q7Dl)

72 Basically, Trump is everything wrong with America's culture, and Hillary is everything wrong with our government. -Allahpundit

=====
Allahpundit shat his bed many years ago.

More nevertrump bullshit.

Nothing but good things happen when Republicans make sure that it's not "THEIR" fault, it's "OUR" fault.



Just ask President's McCain, Dole and Romney.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (zu88C)

73 MeAgain has only one issue, Trump and women.

Maybe I should try CNN for more objective comments.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (8zHLN)

74 What about the Toddlers with Guns roaming the streets?

Posted by: batterup at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (mtGE/)

75 Nevergiveup is a Navy dentist.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (uHcnA)

76 Who will give more bi's for hillary votes? Madonna or insert your fave NeverTrumper? Betcha, Allah would give that old witch a good run thats for sure...

Posted by: Lazzeri Scooter at October 19, 2016 11:09 PM (DDHnM)

77 Worst case??

Al Fucking Franken

Posted by: fixerupper at October 19, 2016 11:09 PM (JmjOe)

78 At one point, she just brought up Putin out of nowhere. It was sadly hilarious.

Yeah, that bullshit cost Hillary early on.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:09 PM (6FqZa)

79 Woot Woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:09 PM (voOPb)

80 >>>VoxRomani

19/10/16 22:24

Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between
presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified
TS/NC2.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)<<<

Someone wipe the debate recordings with a cloth!!!

Posted by: BleachBit Bitch at October 19, 2016 11:09 PM (Kj2zW)

81 A friend of mine just got back from visiting Spain, and she showed me pictures of a wine-dispensing fountain there too. She said everyone was dumping the water out of their water bottles and filling them with wine.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (uHcnA)

82 Donald's campaign slogan is "Make America great again" I'd like to know when he thinks it WAS great.

Line of the night by Hillary. The left doesn't think this country was ever great. Trump should have this in a campaign ad tomorrow.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (dnWSK)

83 19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)



Not a problem, that information was on Hillary's personal bathroom email server so every foreign intelligence agency in the world already had that information!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (wCEn4)

84 Didn't our glorious GOP leaders essentially agree several years ago not to investigate any voter fraud claims!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:06 PM (wCEn4)

GOPe weapons would bring top dollar at a gun show - dropped once, never fired.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (hA1V+)

85 The Trump wont accept the election results can be easily dismantled by screaming Gore every five seconds.

It's a weak attack at best. Did the media run out of pussy grabbing bullets now?

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (bH+An)

86 I'm sympathetic to the parent, nobody wants their child injured, but she voluntarily attended an event where she knew big cheese wheels would be hurtling down hills. She chose where to stand to watch. Maybe a modicum of personal responsibility here? Just a tincture?

++++

But, they were located behind a safety barrier.

"As the plaintiff was watching the event from behind a safety net on the premises, a cheese wheel came rolling down the hill and stretched the safety net colliding with the plaintiff, causing her to be knocked to the ground and sustain injury, loss and damage," the claim reads.

If it was me, I would think I was doing the responsible thing by staying behind the safety net. If the safety net is inadequate to the occasion, that's on the event sponsors.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (R+30W)

87 75 Nevergiveup is a Navy dentist.



Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (uHcnA)

I could use him. Found out today I need a crown. Kind of thought that was going to be the verdict.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (voOPb)

88 Regarding the election result question, I think that Trump's core supporters ate Donald's response up.
They like that he is a brawler.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (Z56vq)

89 Megyn Kelly should have to report herself as an in kind donation to the demorats. She is fucking terrible.

Posted by: Timon at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (396pH)

90 6YO Snipe (of the BT variety). Wasn't a good fit for the service, but I mustered out after the full 72 months. Saw a lot of places I'd not have otherwise.

Plus, I get to tell people about the time my ship was rammed by another USN vessel.

In port. No bulls***.

Posted by: Captain Comic at October 19, 2016 11:11 PM (bUUxB)

91 Re: Madonna's offer from earlier today...

Not even with Slick Willy's willy.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 19, 2016 11:11 PM (rJUlF)

92 nevergiveup will hate me. There was nothing wrong with my teeth this morning. The dentist was bored and kicked me out early after the cleaning

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:11 PM (6FqZa)

93 Squid? I'm triggered. And former Navy.

Posted by: Jim at October 19, 2016 11:11 PM (rnwV8)

94 I could use him. Found out today I need a crown. Kind of thought that was going to be the verdict.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (voOPb)
----------------

It might be worth the trip to New Jersey. He looks like Paul Newman. Or so he says.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (uHcnA)

95 My short answer to those who ask how I could vote for Trump is that he is the only one who isn't Hillary.

Given a choice between a somewhat crass, but successful businessman, and an unethical lawyer and corrupt pay-to-play politician, who has been in a phony marriage for years solely for power and who callously left Americans to die in Benghazi and then lied about it straight to their parents' faces and to us, and who continues to lie and obstruct justice by destroying emails sought by subpoena, I'll take the businessman.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (wgFcF)

96 I suppose low IQ, LIV women may respond to her constant lame pandering, but who knows?
Posted by: naturalfake at October 19, 2016 11:08 PM (9q7Dl)

I have a dear friend whom I have known since childhood. She has become this person. She posts Hilary crap to Facebook at any opportunity, and it is always the worst of the pandering garbage.

She grew up here in AK, but now for some odd reason she is afraid of firearms. When she brings it up, it is the tired old talking points, but when I answer her, she decides she doesn't want to talk about it.

I don't know when her brain quit working. It makes it difficult to be friends with her, and I hate that.

She doesn't live here any more, so I can't even go cancel out her vote. Somebody in SanDiego out there give me a hand with this, please?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (cm1Bl)

97 I know Village Idiot's Apprentice, NACL Salt and Navycopjoe all served in the Navy, any other Squids in residence?



Former Elite Warrior with Easy Work and Extra Women here, aka Electronics Warfare Technician (EW). Got out just before my great rate was merged with the Lightning Fast Chicken Fuckers, aka Cryptologic Technicians (Technical) (CTT).

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (GUBah)

98 I was never in the Navy, but I spend a lot of time at the docks.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (7qAYi)

99 any other Squids in residence?
------------

GGE

You know, the kilt wearer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (9Q5BJ)

100 Megyn Kelly should have to report herself as an in kind donation to the demorats. She is fucking terrible.

Posted by: Timon

=====


Turn off FOX.



Watch FOX Business. Cavuto and Dobbs are pretty dang good.


Kill her ratings.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (zu88C)

101 68 19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)

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Bleach bit for everyone!

Posted by: batterup at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (mtGE/)

102 Line of the night by Hillary. The left doesn't think this country was ever great. Trump should have this in a campaign ad tomorrow.
********************

In a perfect world this would be the line the media would run with 24/7.

Instead we'll hear Trump won't accept election results because he likes to grab pussy.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (bH+An)

103 Trump is "The Man in The Arena". He has nothing to gain (and a lot to lose) by putting himself through this entire process. I thank him for his love of the America that made the world better. I pray for his victory. He is not a saviour but he will attempt to drain the swamp and possibly bring justice to the elitist abusers.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (CL76w)

104 MeAgain has only one issue, Trump and women.


Once again, this underscores my problems with the 19th Amendment. Foreign policy? Fiscal policy? Monetary policy? Other domestic policy? Pfft. For all too many women, it's all about the cooch. Your views are all pro-cooch, you're good. If not, not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (SRKgf)

105 Our election security is a joke. It is designed to be rigged.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (BS8yt)

106 SeaBee

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (zu88C)

107 Jeez, MeAgain is a broken record.

Her constant screeching about Trump's issues with women is boring.

She needs to go away. I can't stand to watch her anymore. Fox has become disappointing.

Posted by: mpfs, DeplorableFishstick at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (79p/O)

108 Watch FOX Business. Cavuto and Dobbs are pretty dang good.
***************

Plus Trish Regan, who I'd wreck like Herbie at the demolition derby.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (bH+An)

109 What character is the "Heroin Diva" supposed to be? It looks vaguely familar.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (FP3TD)

110 At least MeAgain didn't flash her ladyparts at us a fourth time tonight. Guess she figured she'd given us enough of a freeshow in the other debates.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (6FqZa)

111 Just commissioned in USN as LCDR following retirement from OMFS. Humbled and honored beyond words.

Posted by: Billy the Mountain at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (F2EiT)

112 I didn't watch the debate, but I knew from the threads that the only things the media will discuss are Trumps refusal to announce if he will accept the result of the election and the "nasty women" bit.

We are an unserious, easily distracted people who richly deserve what we get.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (qaWk6)

113 It might be worth the trip to New Jersey. He looks like Paul Newman. Or so he says.



Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (uHcnA

Oh great a dead actor with fetishes for salad dressing and race cars working on my teeth. Think I'll continue to chew with the right side


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (voOPb)

114 So, when we send Hilly back to Arkansas or wherever she keeps her crap, will SHE accept the results of the election?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (cm1Bl)

115 Regarding the election result question, I think that Trump's core supporters ate Donald's response up.
They like that he is a brawler.
Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (Z56vq)

Trump could have batted in out of park by referring to the video in which Hillary's supporters were caught talking about sending people from state to state in buses and cars to vote multiple times, and registering illegals. For people watching the debate who get their news from the msm and facebook, that would have been the first time they heard about it.

Chris Wallace should have mentioned it because it was relevant to the premise of his question, but he didn't want to do Trump the favor of helping him.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:15 PM (hA1V+)

116 I feel safer about Hillary and the 2A, all she wants is toddler gun control.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:15 PM (BS8yt)

117 Here is what Luntz's people thought during the debate. I think this is who Trump should be pandering to at this point. (yes I could be wrong)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hn5tzr4

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:15 PM (hVdx9)

118 109 What character is the "Heroin Diva" supposed to be? It looks vaguely familar.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (FP3TD)

The chick from Pulp Fiction

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:15 PM (Z56vq)

119 I'll fact check this one:

Hillary is, indeed, a "nasty woman."

Dried up old husk of one, but yes, still a woman. And certainly nasty.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:15 PM (cm1Bl)

120 Condescending Online Man is my favorite character name, but Better Future Bernie is the best.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (uHcnA)

121 LS2(Ret) checking in. May 1994-June 2014
AK -> SK -> LS rating merger victim.

Serving isn't all glamorous like youtube videos show. Deployments are like Groundhog day: get up, do the same thing you did yesterday, lather rinse repeat.

Posted by: Mak Dietzler at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (RG7ZU)

122 109: The Uma Thurman character from Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (wgFcF)

123 >> Not a problem, that information was on Hillary's
>> personal bathroom email server so every foreign
>> intelligence agency in the world already had that
>> information!

That's why we hit you in three minutes, comrade.

Posted by: Stick your Poot out, stick your Poot in... at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (TppKb)

124 Our election security is a joke. It is designed to be rigged.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (BS8yt)



Funny, we could oversee an election in war-torn Iraq with better voter fraud security using indelible ink than we can manage in the most technologically advanced nation in the world.

Why it's almost like they planned it that way!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (wCEn4)

125 I know Village Idiot's Apprentice, NACL Salt and Navycopjoe all served in the Navy, any other Squids in residence?

Former DS (not dumbshit; Data systems technician) my rate became FC (firecontrolman) or ET (electronics technician) got out after six years. 87-93.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (hMqvx)

126 VoxRomani
19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.


Called it!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (IcT7t)

127 Once again, this underscores my problems with the 19th Amendment. Foreign policy? Fiscal policy? Monetary policy? Other domestic policy? Pfft. For all too many women, it's all about the cooch. Your views are all pro-cooch, you're good. If not, not.
*****************************

You see that electoral map showing Trump would win 370 electoral votes easily if women couldn't vote?

I actually think women should vote, but only when they're married. Something about getting married and realizing it's not all about your vagina seems to turn women into more sensible voters.

Single women on the other hand are the most reliable democrat voting bloc next to African Americans. Mind boggling. Not even the hispanic vote is that lopsided.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (bH+An)

128 Welcome to the jungle gym,
We got guns and games.
We'll shoot anyone we want,
Thanks to the NRA.
You got to take it from Hillary,
We'll kill you all eventually,
If you don't repeal the 2nd Amendment,
And take the guns from me.
In the jungle gym,
Welcome to the jungle gym,
We're gonna watch you bleed...

Posted by: Guns N' Toddlers at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (Kj2zW)

129 >> Serving isn't all glamorous like youtube videos
>> show.

We joined the Navy, to see the world, and what did we see, we saw the sea.

Posted by: JEM at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (TppKb)

130 Story at Breitbart: Madonna says if you vote for Hillary, she will give you a blowjob.

Why does Madonna hate Hillary voters so much, she wants to give them all horrific VD?

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (NlMkN)

131 Why is anyone quoting Alolpundit? Fck him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (L3YlV)

132 SHE accept the results of the election?
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (cm1Bl)

Hilary won't accept the results of the election until she start feeling her face droop from the rage stroke that kills her on election night. Kaine will have to concede for her.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:18 PM (ngn8T)

133 Good answer by Mike Pence.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:18 PM (Z56vq)

134 That's an awful lot of awesome ONT, Dave. Thank You.

Posted by: Chi at October 19, 2016 11:18 PM (lvqY2)

135 126 VoxRomani
19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.

Called it!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:16 PM (IcT7t)

That scrunt would take credit for digging the Panama Canal if she could get away with it. Why wouldn't she reveal national security secrets to make a stupid debate point?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:18 PM (cm1Bl)

136 Yeah, the hell with those white male writers. They should never get any awards. Because their white maleness is inherently oppressive.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:19 PM (sdi6R)

137 I remember when Allahpundit had his own blog. Every time I read his analysis, I'm reminded of why we speak of it in past tense.

Posted by: OCBill at October 19, 2016 11:20 PM (oDxFZ)

138 The Trump wont accept the election results can be easily dismantled by screaming Gore every five seconds.
It's a weak attack at best. Did the media run out of pussy grabbing bullets now?
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM

I'm not sure, the media screaming this could make this look like a loss for him.

I really liked his aside...you're a nasty woman.

Posted by: Farmer at October 19, 2016 11:20 PM (o/90i)

139 That scrunt would take credit for digging the Panama Canal if she could get away with it. Why wouldn't she reveal national security secrets to make a stupid debate point?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:18 PM (cm1Bl)


I bet the people that paid the Clinton Foundation for that information are really pissed that they could have gotten it for free!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:20 PM (wCEn4)

140 What was up with Clinton's snotty nose?

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:20 PM (wgFcF)

141 Everybody wants to give Dylan awards, just hoping to meet him (Clinton, Obama). Nowadays its radical for a group to give an award to someone who is white, and Jewish as well.

Posted by: waelse1 at October 19, 2016 11:20 PM (ve8Fc)

142 Single women on the other hand are the most reliable democrat voting bloc next to African Americans. Mind boggling. Not even the hispanic vote is that lopsided.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (bH+An)

Have you polled the "men" in the same demographic?

Every single male under the age of 30 with whom I have come into contact is totally in the bag for Bernie, and without him, they come up Hillary. No idea why--just vague nonsense about how awful corporation are and why would we want someone without any experience......

Dumber than a box of rocks. No need to go all sexist. The boys and the girls are equally idiotic.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:21 PM (cm1Bl)

143 9/11 nostalgia: we've come this far...

The Guardian thinks Bob Dylan is part of the white male patriarchy? HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!

Posted by: exdem13 at October 19, 2016 11:21 PM (ry4ab)

144
HotAir: Sponsored by Al-Corn Clean Fuel Ethanol and the Colin Powell Leadership Academy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (kdS6q)

145 "6YO Snipe (of the BT variety). Wasn't a good fit for the service, but I
mustered out after the full 72 months. Saw a lot of places I'd not have
otherwise."

"So _that's_ what the starboard after cooling duct looks like from underneath! Wow, the Navy has really broadened my horizons! I never dreamed of such things back home. Maybe, if I stay in, I'll one day be able to feast my eyes on the dulcet mysteries of the port forward auxiliary lube oil strainer."

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (noWW6)

146 I saw Toddlers with Guns open for Twisted Sister at the Aerodome in '89.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (VdICR)

147 I actually think women should vote, but only when they're married. Something about getting married and realizing it's not all about your vagina seems to turn women into more sensible voters.
Single women on the other hand are the most reliable democrat voting bloc next to African Americans. Mind boggling. Not even the hispanic vote is that lopsided.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:17 PM (bH+An)


Yeah, I'll go with that. I was staking out an extreme position to make a point: any demographic that cannot in principle vote against the narrowly-drawn interests of that demographic, but rather in the interests of the nation as a whole, should not be allowed to vote.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (SRKgf)

148 I kind of think too many single woman see the govt. as their "Daddy" or "husband".
Once married, that box is checked and they think differently.
Then again if I knew shite about women Bill Clinton would be asking me how I got laid so much.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (hVdx9)

149 Dylan, Nwaa, was a waaaaa naaaa chaaaa waaaa! Yep, Nobel Prize

Posted by: lousagirl at October 19, 2016 11:23 PM (9plvG)

150 One of the 20-something guys I work with thinks that the internet will save us from our evil sexist, racist past by changing human nature.

I mentioned that Suetonius and Augustine wrote about the same human foibles we are experiencing now. He had no idea who I was talking about.

If anything, the internet has made us all idiots, I guess.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:23 PM (cm1Bl)

151 I pray for his victory. He is not a saviour but he will attempt to drain the swamp and possibly bring justice to the elitist abusers.
Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:13 PM (CL76w)
***
Amen!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient and Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:23 PM (/nxdW)

152 i've been watching old northern exposures all day and lo and behold they've brought donald trump up twice.

both in positive lights.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 19, 2016 11:23 PM (Qi+kT)

153 is it possible to stay black out drunk for 2 months straight?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)

154 Serving isn't all glamorous like youtube videos show.
------------

So, you haven't seen this?
http://tinyurl.com/h4slxqr

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (9Q5BJ)

155 Perhaps if the MSM continues to focus on Donald's response to the election results question, it will bring into clearer focus the question of their fairness in covering him.

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (Z56vq)

156 I went to a Navy school for training, but I wasn't Navy.

I like girls.

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (ACqhm)

157 Yes Spawn, it is

Posted by: lousagirl at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (9plvG)

158 The chick from Pulp Fiction
Uma Therman

Ah, that's it. Thanks! And that only looked familiar to me from Pulp Fiction television parodies like the one in Community and not from having seen the movie.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (FP3TD)

159 The Trump wont accept the election results can be easily dismantled by screaming Gore every five seconds. It's a weak attack at best. Did the media run out of pussy grabbing bullets now?
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM

I'm not sure, the media screaming this could make this look like a loss for him.

*******************************

I disagree, unlike the pussy grabbing thing, Trump has a shitload of ammo to use here thanks partly to O'Keefe. He can point out so many instances of voter fraud and intimidation plus using the 2000 example, as well as 2004 when people though Ohio stole the election for Bush. It will call to people's minds that democrats are fucking cheaters.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (bH+An)

160 153 is it possible to stay black out drunk for 2 months straight?
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)


Huma says no. Fundraisers or something.

Posted by: Hillary at October 19, 2016 11:25 PM (iMxBJ)

161 This election goes to the House, I can easily see President Pence walking out of the dust.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:25 PM (ngn8T)

162 CAVUTO JUST HANDED MARK CUBAN HIS ASS





AHAHAHHAHAHHA

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:25 PM (zu88C)

163 148 I kind of think too many single woman see the govt. as their "Daddy" or "husband".
Once married, that box is checked and they think differently.
Then again if I knew shite about women Bill Clinton would be asking me how I got laid so much.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (hVdx9)

Not so much. They think the government is just there, doing governmental things, governmentally. That's as far as they noodle it out. They bitch about paying taxes, but they do it anyway. They think the government should be good, but they have no way to measure if it is or isn't.

They vote the way their besties vote.

Young men are the same in many ways. They vote for whomever will get them laid. I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:26 PM (cm1Bl)

164 Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.
Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)

That was probably one of the first things Barky told the Russians and Chinese when he got in office.

Barky was remarkably unconcerned when China hacked 20 million or whatever OPM records, including security checks.

And Russia seems awfully confident these days in their saber rattling.

Barky's big article he got published in the Columbia U student paper was pushing unilateral disarmament of the USA during the Cold War.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:26 PM (hA1V+)

165 Mark Cuban looks like a scary unhinged skeleton
On with Cavuto on Fox Biz

Posted by: L, Elle at October 19, 2016 11:26 PM (6IPEM)

166 USN 1967-71 IC3 USS Talbot DEG-4

Posted by: Old Glazier at October 19, 2016 11:26 PM (pjqGT)

167 Josh Barro is a putz.


Oh and Daniel Horowitz obviously lurks here because he borrowed my line about the GOP controlling congress for 18 of the last 22 years and has delivered ungatz on pumpernickle.

The GOP is useless in every way imaginable, it needs to be destroyed and a new party must rise to take it's place.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 19, 2016 11:26 PM (+lv+r)

168 Just called Cuban a hater!

Cuban says its unAmerican for Trump to question the election results.

Cavuto says " Al Gore, bitch."



Okay he didn't say 'bitch'.


Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:27 PM (zu88C)

169 Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (bH+An)

Don't forget the New Black Panther Party intimidation, case dismissed by Eric (My People!) Holder!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:27 PM (wCEn4)

170 From Sargon of Akkad

#IfTheMediaRiggedTheElection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS40ox_2dqc

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (vBeA5)

171 The GOP is useless in every way imaginable, it needs to be destroyed and a new party must rise to take it's place.

Posted by: Kreplach

The Party of the Phoenix?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (C+vbB)

172 "This election goes to the House, I can easily see President Pence walking out of the dust."

There are apparently a goodly number of Utahns hoping that we're somehow going to end up with President Evan McMuffin.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (noWW6)

173
Mark Cuban's giant skull is scaring children.

Go away, cheesedick.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (zu88C)

174 "Josh Barro is a putz."

Isn't Josh Barro the git who just recently renounced being a Republican because of Trump?

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (cC/ZB)

175 Okay he didn't say 'bitch'.

Should have.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (IcT7t)

176 I've seen a lot of houses here with an Independent or a Soft Democrat male shackled to a Hard Democrat female. I wonder how the men would vote if they didn't feel the need to keep the bed at least slightly warm at night

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (6FqZa)

177
Bill Bennett on Fox? Well, they are in Vegas.
******************
That's harsh man.


Disproves the statement "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (IqV8l)

178 sorry Mark Cuban can have 6 wives & 40 Kids but he is GAY as gay can be

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (y3aQB)

179 I just want our elections as secure as Mexico.

I just want our Southern border as secure as Mexico's.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (ngn8T)

180 "Trump is "The Man in The Arena". He has nothing to gain (and a lot to lose) by putting himself through this entire process."

--------

If he loses the entire political abpnd business establishment will make him pay for his impertinence. They will punish his family and associates.

His biggest sin is he thought the forgotten people should have a say.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (8zHLN)

181 I'm off to cry myself to sleep, thinking about how Horde advice could have made this a triumph for the Donald!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (wCEn4)

182 The Party of the Phoenix?
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:28 PM (C+vbB)

USIP - United States Independence Party.

Headed by Nigel Farage, who just became an American citizen (in my dreams).

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (cC/ZB)

183 >>>If anything, the internet has made us all idiots, I guess.


You're grounded
No ONT for you


/////////

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (voOPb)

184 Well, have to go to bed so I can get up and pay for all those illegals benefits.
Good night, all!

Posted by: ALH at October 19, 2016 11:30 PM (Z56vq)

185 is it possible to stay black out drunk for 2 months straight?

Yes. College in 1971. One quarter of 0.8 grade point . four F's and a D. I got better. You can call me Doctor, now.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:30 PM (CL76w)

186
No, Trump Didn't Get It Done Tonight
by Jim Geraghty

Maybe there was one self-inflicted knockout punch. Trump declared he wasn't willing to commit to accepting the election results....Is there a legitimate concern about fraudulent votes? Sure. BUT...




But? But!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 19, 2016 11:30 PM (kdS6q)

187 Mark Cuban's giant skull is scaring children.
Go away, cheesedick.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:28
****
yeah, right?
He's a big rude interrupter like creepy clown Kaine.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (6IPEM)

188 Former Elite Warrior with Easy Work and Extra Women here, aka Electronics Warfare Technician (EW). Got out just before my great rate was merged with the Lightning Fast Chicken Fuckers, aka Cryptologic Technicians (Technical) (CTT).

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 19, 2016 11:12 PM (GUBah)


Ha! I was a Cryptologic Technician Collection (CTR). I started out as a ditty bopper and then moved to signal analyst. When I reported to boot camp, I received phone privileges immediately since I had to call and get information for my SSBI. My company commander referred to me as the "spook". LOL!

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (S/qwI)

189
Chris Wallace
by Rich Lowry

He did a terrific job. It was the most substantive of the presidential debates, although he didn't slight the process and personal issues that have dominated so much of the campaign. And he is a master at controlling the candidates without stepping on good exchanges. Well done - he did everyone associated with Fox News proud.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (kdS6q)

190 Interesting article about the Angel's Glow.

In fact, a very nice ONT altogether, Weirddave. Thank you. I know these must take forever to pull together.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (uHcnA)

191 does Clinton Mafia think Cuban is a good spokesmen for her ?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (y3aQB)

192 sorry Mark Cuban can have 6 wives & 40 Kids but he is GAY as gay can be
Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:29 PM (y3aQB)




Mark Cuban is a mooselimb?

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (GUBah)

193 He's not here to mention it but Vic is USN.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (LaMci)

194 I kind of think too many single woman see the govt. as their "Daddy" or "husband".

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 19, 2016 11:22 PM (hVdx9)


I suspect that part of feminine psychology is to look for a protector/provider. First it's Dad, but then, unless a husband is on the scene, it's the government. But it's always someone. For most of human evolution, women survived solely by having a protector/provider, because a woman spent most of her time carrying/ nursing/ raising children, and hence was exquisitely vulnerable without a protector/provider.

With no disrespect intended, I liken it to dogs: left by themselves, alone, for any considerable period, they obviously experience considerable stress, because as social animals they're used to being part of a pack.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (SRKgf)

195 Trish Regan won Babe Of Debate.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (Mt8T4)

196 >>> I wonder how the men would vote if they didn't feel the need to keep the bed at least slightly warm at night


They are all futon fuckers

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (voOPb)

197 Geez, the meme is now Trump won't accept the results!!!!!!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (L3YlV)

198 I've seen a lot of houses here with an Independent or a Soft Democrat male shackled to a Hard Democrat female. I wonder how the men would vote if they didn't feel the need to keep the bed at least slightly warm at night
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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I know of a few couples. Wife is a screaming Dem, husband just shrugs. Generally they are teachers or in Government... wait... same thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (9Q5BJ)

199 Wallace did okay, Mr Lowry, but at some point you really should relinquish his dick.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:32 PM (6FqZa)

200 Jim Geraghty is an inside the beltway Whore RINO NeverTrumper

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (y3aQB)

201 "Barky was remarkably unconcerned when China hacked 20 million or whatever OPM records, including security checks."

The PRC didn't hack read access to the federal OPM databases. They didn't have to do so.

A firm run by the PRC military, physically located in the PRC, were given full administrative read/write/create/delete rights. Voluntarily. Contractually. The affirmative-action identity-politics bimbo stuffed into the top slot at OPM by Obama openly handed them these things.

At this point, the OPM databases are utterly unfit for purpose. They need to be completely erased and everything has to start _de novo_. The whole lengthy costly clearance process has to be done again from scratch for a huge number of people.

Except that doesn't eliminate the blackmail fodder for individuals with clearances who had dark secrets in the databases before China got hold of the passwords.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (noWW6)

202 Dumber than a box of rocks. No need to go all sexist. The boys and the girls are equally idiotic.
****************************

Ok, I'll give you that, I checked the single men numbers and it was close to the same percentage. Sad.

I think i need to start pretending to be a liberal until I get married just to expand the dating pool.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (bH+An)

203 Yes. College in 1971. One quarter of 0.8 grade point . four F's and a D. I got better. You can call me Doctor, now.
Posted by: free tibet

Good Doctor may I take that as profesional advice as to obtain success?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (C+vbB)

204 i've been watching old northern exposures all day and lo and behold they've brought donald trump up twice.

both in positive lights.

Totally by chance I've seen three (positive ones) in just the past two weeks too... a Two And A Half Men episode, Corner Gas (a Canadian sitcom), and a Sex in the City that I watched because the PVR's onscreen plot description mentioned Trump as a guest and not because I wanted to check out Carrie's latest Vuitton handbag.

Honest.

No. I really mean it.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (FP3TD)

205 Ha! I was a Cryptologic Technician Collection (CTR).

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (S/qwI)




Heh! My CC at Orlando was a CTR. She gave me and the other EW in the company hell.

Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (GUBah)

206 Im really glad the dems accepted the presidency of GWB right away.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (L3YlV)

207 I was shouting that he should have mentioned 2000.

But 2000 also
maybe not a great example of "rigging" if only because the D's didn't
actually win. But it IS a good example of not accepting a loss... which
if you read Scott Adams and understand "persuasion", it could pair him
in people's minds with a loser - Al Gore. And from a persuasion
perspective, he doesn't want to be paired in people's minds with a
loser!

All he's trying to demonstrate is the straight spine of a
leader. This business about "not being prepared" is ridiculous. He's
walking a tightrope.

I was also promised - GUARANTEED - by some
real smarties here and elsewhere - that he would run as a liberal in the
mold of Hillary Clinton. Tonight in front of the world, he hammered Roe
v Wade, an unabashed 2nd Amendment, illegal immigration, not to mention
the corruption of his opponent. Most considered third rails by our
so-called "conservative" candidates during the General.

Posted by: Mega at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (EdXI9)

208 Trish Regan won Babe Of Debate.
******************

I love Trish sexually.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (bH+An)

209 Hey Weirddavedude, it's me again. You KNEW I'd be here tonite, right? (see e.g., staged "random" fan sinks putt at Ryder Cup)

American Ninja streaker = staged. Ratings boost needed so resort to stupid stunt for youtube clicks. It worked - I never knew the show existed.

Also, the announcer's first dumb exclamation: "This is atrocious!!" And then it gets blindingly obvious from there that it's staged.

Ban me if you must but someone's got to get the word out there. Someone's got to ruin the chance that some sad basement dweller might find joy in thinking it was all just a spontaneous wonderful thing.


Posted by: Smitty27 at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (g9d8D)

210 "I know Village Idiot's Apprentice, NACL Salt and Navycopjoe all served in the Navy, any other Squids in residence?"

Me too.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (w+Jhj)

211 Yes. College in 1971. One quarter of 0.8 grade point . four F's and a D. I got better. You can call me Doctor, now.
Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:30 PM (CL76w)
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Wouldn't that be a 0.2 GPA, Doctor?

We had a guy like that at my school. He was legendary. And gone.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (uHcnA)

212 yeah, right?

He's a big rude interrupter like creepy clown Kaine.

Posted by: L, Elle


===


Cuban's claim to glory is that he yells and screams at little guys and gals on tv who are trying to strike it rich like he did.


FU Cuban you narcissistic, self-righteous, ungrateful, unAmerican fuck.

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (zu88C)

213 so did we hear anything from luntzs duntzs?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (cPsPa)

214 Watching the debate is a perfect illustration of how Democrats are able to keep pushing the ball forward.

This
bitch is probably one of the most corrupt pols ever but as you can see
she like most democrats have a fucking script and narrative for pretty
much every concievable question that can possibly be asked it doesn't even matter if makes any sense just keep pushing the bullshit clapper lines because they are never called on any of this bullshit.


This is not just a failing of Trump it's pretty much a GOP malfunction.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (+lv+r)

215 @167
There's a guy at HA that always says that. Is AP really Josh Barro "conservative " commentator at the NYT?

Posted by: keena at October 19, 2016 11:35 PM (RiTnx)

216 Yes Minnfidel,Gore was so quick with conceding, then immediately saying results were not so!
FUCK Them

Posted by: lousagirl at October 19, 2016 11:35 PM (9plvG)

217 Trump as a guest and not because I wanted to check out Carrie's latest Vuitton handbag.

Honest.

No. I really mean it.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (FP3TD)
-----------------

Andy, it bothers me a little that you know Carrie has a Vuitton handbag.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:35 PM (uHcnA)

218 Is anyone else having problems with the Drudge poll?

Posted by: spypeach at October 19, 2016 11:35 PM (nyYhO)

219 yep

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2016 11:36 PM (cPsPa)

220 >>>Yes. College in 1971. One quarter of 0.8 grade point . four F's and a D. I got better.

So we attended the same school, different years?

Only they call me late for supper.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:36 PM (voOPb)

221 Did they ever ask McCain or Romney that question? No, they knew those two wouldn't fight.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (ngn8T)

222 USNR 1970-1976 Boilerman second class. USS Wood DD715.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (zwsnd)

223 218
Is anyone else having problems with the Drudge poll?


Yeah, may have gotten DDoS's by the Hillary's minions.


Or the Russians.


Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (zu88C)

224 Have 8 bit farm girl sent to my chambers. and don't bother us til Sunday.

Posted by: moronhordeminion, exchequer of the realm at October 19, 2016 10:58 PM (cPdbv)

Hehe! I was at the bar this afternoon, new waitress (with nice rack, BTW) was talking about a costume for Halloween. I suggested she look at Trashy.com So she gets on her smart phone, and looks it up, "Oh my God! My new favorite Web site!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (CUYn5)

225 Hiya. Last couple of days have been full of suck.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (0mRoj)

226 DDoS'd?

DDOS'ed?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (zu88C)

227 213 so did we hear anything from luntzs duntzs?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 19, 2016 11:34 PM (cPsPa)

Something like 14-12 for Trump, I think?

Regardless if you thought Trump "won" or not, assume he didn't and buy more ammo.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (cC/ZB)

228 I've seen a lot of houses here with an Independent or a Soft Democrat male shackled to a Hard Democrat female. I wonder how the men would vote if they didn't feel the need to keep the bed at least slightly warm at night
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo



A friend of mine of many decades standing would be a worthy addition to the Horde, but his wife is an earnest lib. He vents to me periodically, but how he puts up with it defies my comprehension. Particularly on election night.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (SRKgf)

229 Good gravy Dumma Brazile Nut is a POS

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (L3YlV)

230 *looks around at the ONT*

Interesting place ya'll have here. Watched this debate, and she really stunk it up.

Have to chuckle, though -Trump clearly coordinated the results line, as "Gore" is getting tossed back even on local tv.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (C9pBZ)

231 Yes. College in 1971. One quarter of 0.8 grade point . four F's and a D. I got better. You can call me Doctor, now.
Posted by: free tibet

Good Doctor may I take that as profesional advice as to obtain success?

Dunno. It WAS the 70's.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (CL76w)

232 What is mind boggling to me is that there are republicans who actually think Hillary is going to work with them. She and the entire press will turn on all of them once the election is over. They will go all out. Anyone who says otherwise is beyond delusional.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (qaWk6)

233 re: DNC and Podesta "hacks".

These were not "hacks" in any real sense of the word. Someone "phished" emails -- as in, set up a fake webpage that looked like a google webpage, then sent an email saying "hey, you need to reset your password now!!" and idiots clicked the fake link and gave their credentials to the "hackers."

Then the "hackers" ran scripts they found on the dark web (script kiddies, in other words) to get access to more of the networks. Some of these scripts had Russian headers explaining what the scripts were.

For this reason, I highly, highly, highly doubt they were done by the Russian govt (unless, maybe, the idea was to be "so obvious" that people would say "no way was this a govt actor!")

I think it's way more likely that these "hacks" were done by a single "hacktivist". I, for example, with my extremely modest knowledge of coding and hiding my trail on the internet, could have pulled this off. Someone nerdier then me could have definitely done it, no problem.

The chances of it being the Russian govt and them being SO sloppy as to include headers (with Cyrillic text) is... well, if thats how the Russian govt operates, then we have nothing to fear from them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (cJrMO)

234 Except that doesn't eliminate the blackmail fodder for individuals with clearances who had dark secrets in the databases before China got hold of the passwords.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (noWW6)

Speaking of which, one response to throw back at Hillary when she starts talking about Russians hacking the DNC and Podesta supposedly to help Trump, is that Hillary is exposed to blackmail because the Russians, the Chinese and who knows who has her deleted emails.

Every security expert I have seen interviewed has said it is highly likely that foreign intel services got into her server.

I think what may be the case here is the Russians obviously realize they would be better off with a weak president like Hillary, but she and Barky have so pissed them off simply with their personal arrogance, condescension and entitlement that they simply cannot stand them and don't respect them.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:39 PM (hA1V+)

235 I don't care if you love Trump or hate him, this is awesome.
http://tinyurl.com/zejnrac

Posted by: josephistan at October 19, 2016 10:59 PM (7qAYi)

Awesome!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2016 11:39 PM (CUYn5)

236 Hey Insomniac !!

Third round interview tomorrow.


I am nervous as hell.


Have you checked into any of those certifications? Any leads yet?


Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:39 PM (zu88C)

237 Every security expert I have seen interviewed has said it is highly likely that foreign intel services got into her server.


Euphemism alert?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (SRKgf)

238 Good gravy Dumma Brazile Nut is a POS
Posted by: Minnfidel
--------------

Always has been... that's why she's a reliable foot soldier. She really isn't very bright.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (9Q5BJ)

239 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM...........
You know the rules around here.....

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (L3YlV)

240 Hiya. Last couple of days have been full of suck.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (0mRoj)
--------------

I'm sorry, Insomniac. I've been giving you a couple days off, because. Will you have your kids this weekend?

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (uHcnA)

241 A friend of mine of many decades standing would be a worthy addition to the Horde, but his wife is an earnest lib. He vents to me periodically, but how he puts up with it defies my comprehension. Particularly on election night.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:38 PM (SRKgf)

Seems to me that incredibly different politics, like incredibly different religions, would make a couple "unequally yoked".

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (cC/ZB)

242

Every security expert I have seen interviewed has said it is highly likely that foreign intel services got into her server.


The lack of dead bodies outside of FSB and PLA HQs guarantees that.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (ngn8T)

243
USNR 1970-1976 Boilerman second class. USS Wood DD715.
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM


That's BoilerPerson!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. EnginePerson at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (IqV8l)

244 Vic is USN.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (LaMci)

He founded it.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (cm1Bl)

245 American Ninja streaker = staged.

Yep, said so right in the linked article. The one with the video you're complaining about.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (IcT7t)

246 Mortimer, fingers crossed and prayers up!

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (uHcnA)

247 Meeagain is interviewing Dumma Brasille. Is she high or stupid? Or a combo platter?

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (L3YlV)

248 What is mind boggling to me is that there are republicans who actually think Hillary is going to work with them.
***************************

It's even more amazing that nevertrumpers believe the GOP, after being over for a nice ass reaming by Obama's dildo for 8 years will suddenly transform into a hardcore totes legitimate opposition party holding the line of defense against Hillary.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (bH+An)

249 ...and it pisses me off that Trump is unable to point out these basic, basic, facts. Does he not know a single "nerd'?

And why can't he say "Hillary, there is no online loophole to purchasing guns. Nor is there a a gunshow loophole. We have had universal background checks since the early '90s and the Brady Bill."? etc. etc. etc.

I mean, for fucks sake.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (cJrMO)

250 As obnoxious as MeAgain is the most telling comment tonight came from Britt Hume. He said that even though th debate is important but the commentators' discussion afterwards is more so because it sets the tone how the debate is looked at afterwords, the rating they give the candidates.

In other words, we are too stupid to work out for ourselves what the candidates meant, it needs to be explained to us.

This is rather a foolhardy thing to say for media that is very much out of favor with the public. Insulting Fox viewers must be rather a dangerous new game seeing as, with just one exception, their programs are tanking in the ratings.

Such smart people and so little self awareness.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (8zHLN)

251 47 New poll out of Utah.

Hillary is coming in 3rd:

https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/788833184037400576
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (vBeA5)

The bad news is Trump comes in 2nd after egg mcmuffin.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (P8951)

252 We're overweighted with swabbies here. I'm filing a complaint.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (9Q5BJ)

253 243
USNR 1970-1976 Boilerman second class. USS Wood DD715.
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM

That's BoilerPerson!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. EnginePerson at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (IqV8l)

Drinking a Boilermaker does not make you a Boilerman. Uh, person.

Hic.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (cm1Bl)

254 Megyn Kelly is conducting a rectal exam of Donna Brazile right now, and it ain't the good kind.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (SEXy3)

255 3 so did we hear anything from luntzs duntzs? 14 Said Trump won

12 said Butchy won

4 said tied & all 28 are lying sacks of shit

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (y3aQB)

256 Artsy Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788809864185257984

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788810000798015488

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788810103466098689

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788810353937420288

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788810450813218816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/788810531901767680

Posted by: kbdabear at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (Ya7zs)

257 Andy, it bothers me a little that you know Carrie has a Vuitton handbag.
Posted by: bluebell

Oh, sure! Ace can own a European carry-all handbag but I show a little, just a little handbag curiosity and I get attacked. It's just like me missing this afternoon's game.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (FP3TD)

258 236 Hey Insomniac !!

Third round interview tomorrow.


I am nervous as hell.


Have you checked into any of those certifications? Any leads yet?


Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:39 PM (zu88C)

Good luck tomorrow! I'm trying to work on a couple other things before deciding to make a complete career change. But things are still not looking good. At all.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (0mRoj)

259 >>>226 DDoS'd?

DDOS'ed?

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:37 PM (zu88C)<<<

DDOS'ED?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (jV8Mq)

260 254 Megyn Kelly is conducting a rectal exam of Donna Brazile right now, and it ain't the good kind. BRAIN BLEACH STAT

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (y3aQB)

261 thanks bluebell!


I gotta go pass out and get some sleep before the BigOne tomorrow but will try to check in on ya'll tomorrow in the AM threads.

Lack of sleep is making me look haggard in the interviews I think.

Need Oil of Olay or something that will make me look 25 again for a week or so anyway.


Hasta la carne .

Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (zu88C)

262 Good Doctor may I take that as profesional advice as to obtain success?

Lots of current successful professionals drank like fish back then. Life was looser, more accepting of occasional stupidity. The cops would sometimes pull you over and then take you home if you weren't belligerent. And tell you to STAY IN THE HOUSE! Today it can ruin you.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (CL76w)

263 VoxRomani
19/10/16 22:24
Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:05 PM (y3aQB)

Four minutes? Wow, that's enough time to un-ass the kill zone. If you are sitting on the runway in a MIG-25 with the engines spooled up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (CUYn5)

264 Allahpundit is, as per usual, whining yet another empty variation of the false-equivalence/pox-on-both-their-houses crap that silly people spout when they want to sound wise. As though we should be grateful they even deign to consider the subject.

But there isn't really any equivalency or ambiguity at all: Donald Trump is a better person, and he has already had an infinitely more positive impact on the world than Hillary Clinton ever will. Full stop.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (md1b/)

265 OH, and "it's already illegal for toddlers to purchase guns."

I just get so depressed around debates ever election season. Why is it that I am more prepared then our stupid fucking candidates? Why does Mr. JD / MBA Mitt Romney not know about Griswold v. Connecticut, but I do? The entire fucking "war on women" was born because Mitt couldn't remember a case from his 1L year of lawschool?

...anyways

/vent over

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (cJrMO)

266 Why should Trump accept the results of an election that

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:43 PM (BS8yt)

267 "I think what may be the case here is the Russians obviously realize they
would be better off with a weak president like Hillary, but she and
Barky have so pissed them off simply with their personal arrogance,
condescension and entitlement that they simply cannot stand them and
don't respect them."

Sergei Lavrov said, when asked about Trump's remarks on tape about pussy grabbing, that "There are so many pussies on both sides of your presidential election that I prefer not to comment further."

Honestly. Not making this up.

How hard is it to qualify for Russian Federation citizenship again?

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (noWW6)

268 >>>That's BoilerPerson!

Hot water expert

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (voOPb)

269 Oh, sure! Ace can own a European carry-all handbag but I show a little, just a little handbag curiosity and I get attacked. It's just like me missing this afternoon's game.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM (FP3TD)
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Oh honey, I'm sorry about the game. You can show all the handbag curiosity you want. I won't judge you.

Really.



Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (uHcnA)

270 Hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (BS8yt)

271 Radioman 3rd, 70-74.

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (9iR5/)

272 The bad news is Trump comes in 2nd after egg mcmuffin.
******************

It's a ghey poll that's not even included in the RCP average. Bullshit psyops by Romney's dickweenies.

Last poll had Trump up 17, and this was during all the pussy grabbing.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (bH+An)

273 Vic is USN.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (LaMci)

He founded it.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK

John Paul Jones? Learned to tie knots from Vic.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 19, 2016 11:44 PM (S6Pax)

274 I'm sorry, Insomniac. I've been giving you a couple days off, because. Will you have your kids this weekend?

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (uHcnA)

I will, so that's nice. Otherwise, life just keeps kicking me in the nuts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

275 Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (8zHLN) he is a RINO MORON ! he thinks the "Smart People" set everything up. if that's the case how come Trump is nominee?? Jebbie should have won that is who the "Smart Set" wanted

Posted by: Evilpens at October 19, 2016 11:45 PM (y3aQB)

276 That's BoilerPerson!

Hot water expert
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
------------

Purdue grad

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:45 PM (9Q5BJ)

277 Seems to me that incredibly different politics, like incredibly different religions, would make a couple "unequally yoked".

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2016 11:40 PM (cC/ZB)


Yep. I don't get it, myself. I'd have strangled the bitch myself, especially on election night, but that's me. I run hotter than he does.

OTOH, whenever I see him, he vents to me at length.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:45 PM (SRKgf)

278 So the talking head establishment dinks huddled and the vote was, well Trump did well. But OMG he won't accept the results!!!!!! Al Gore and every fucking leftist loon from a few years ago unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (L3YlV)

279 All right, Insomniac, good that you'll have your kids. Keep that as your focus.

Posted by: bluebell at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (uHcnA)

280 And at least I had to Bing search to see how to spell "Vuitton"!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (FP3TD)

281 "Why does Mr. JD / MBA Mitt Romney not know about Griswold v.
Connecticut, but I do? The entire fucking 'war on women' was born
because Mitt couldn't remember a case from his 1L year of lawschool?"

Mitt was focused like a laser on the fine details of those all-important corporate taxation cases.

You know, the stuff that *really* matters to the national future.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (noWW6)

282 Why isn't z Hillary dropping TS information on during a national debate the top news?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (BS8yt)

283 Oh, open borders. I was talking about utilities!!!!!!!!! SMDH

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (L3YlV)

284 In fact, a very nice ONT altogether, Weirddave. Thank you. I know these must take forever to pull together.

Thanks. It's not so bad, I bookmark links all week, and it takes me an hour or two to coalate them and add commentary, do all the HTML coding and spell check Mis Hum does it 4 nights a week, a much tougher job.


209 Hey Weirddavedude, it's me again. You KNEW I'd be here tonite, right? (see e.g., staged "random" fan sinks putt at Ryder Cup)

American Ninja streaker = staged. Ratings boost needed so resort to stupid stunt for youtube clicks. It worked - I never knew the show existed.

Also, the announcer's first dumb exclamation: "This is atrocious!!" And then it gets blindingly obvious from there that it's staged.

Ban me if you must but someone's got to get the word out there. Someone's got to ruin the chance that some sad basement dweller might find joy in thinking it was all just a spontaneous wonderful thing.


Ban you? Why the hell would I ban you? Also, why do you even care? Did you mistake the ONT for The NY Times? ONT = fun links, pictures and videos interspaced with occational serious content ( which is what I usually write commentary on ). I bet the Halloween costume pic is photoshopped too. Why don't you examine the pixels and get back to me on that?

Posted by: Weirddave at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (CTvSA)

285 Luntzs dunces?

If they haven't made up their mind yet, they are too dumb to let vote, reproduce or tie their shoe laces

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (voOPb)

286 >>is it possible to stay black out drunk for 2 months straight?

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem

Yes

Posted by: Hillary at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (5huyv)

287 Heh! My CC at Orlando was a CTR. She gave me and the other EW in the company hell.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (GUBah)


When did you pass thru Club Orlando? I went thru late August to early November 1993. Now there are houses and a park where the base use to be.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (S/qwI)

288 John Paul Jones? Learned to tie knots from Vic.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
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"Damn the topedoes"? Farragut got that from Vic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (9Q5BJ)

289
Megyn Kelly is conducting a rectal exam of Donna Brazile right now, and it ain't the good kind.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 19, 2016 11:42 PM


There's a good kind?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (IqV8l)

290 Oh honey, I'm sorry about the game. You can show all the handbag curiosity you want. I won't judge you.

Really.



I will. Faggot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:48 PM (SRKgf)

291 I really liked his aside...you're a nasty woman.
Posted by: Farmer


My LIV wife said to me "his whispered 'what a nasty woman response' was unnecessary.

I said, "I remember it, didn't think much of it, do you remember what it was in response to?"

She couldn't remember, just that it was in response to "the closing."

Just an anecdote.

So, IMO, probably even gain-loss on the comment.

(As an aside, she also mentioned after pussy-gate broke, she wasn't sure she was whether she was going to vote for him or not...at which point I reminded her that SHE voted for him in the primary, I voted for Cruz, but don't she DARE start going wobbly on him now...and then I piled on with "grab you by the pussy" jokes).

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 19, 2016 11:48 PM (CXLVd)

292 So the talking head establishment dinks huddled and the vote was, well Trump did well. But OMG he won't accept the results!!!!!! Al Gore and every fucking leftist loon from a few years ago unavailable for comment.
*******************

This is a good sign because it's a weak line of attack especially because democrats cheating with all their dead voters has long been embedded in the national conscience since 1960. The pussy grabbing was much more effective.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:48 PM (bH+An)

293 I was going to join the Navy, but I'm not gay.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (xInes)

294 I will. Faggot.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Bitch.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (FP3TD)

295 OTOH, whenever I see him, he vents to me at length.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

He should tell his wife he'll vote for Trump unless he gets a morning blowjob from until election day. Let her put her mouth to work for Hilary.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (ngn8T)

296 Romney needs to get bent. He needs to get so bent that his spine wraps around through between his legs, up and over, twice. And then he needs to roll away out of sight.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (6FqZa)

297 "You may fire when ready"? Yep. Adm. Dewey got that from Vic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (9Q5BJ)

298 Why isn't z Hillary dropping TS information on during a national debate the top news?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (BS8yt)




Because "lack of intent". Duh.

Posted by: Jim "The Fixer" Comey at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (GUBah)

299 We're overweighted with swabbies here. I'm filing a complaint.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Army here, former paratrooper. There's a couple more around. Hold your ground!

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (CXLVd)

300 Otherwise, life just keeps kicking me in the nuts.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

Oh, sweetie, it does that to all of us.

After we lost the house, we went downhill on a very fast slope. Finally, we have leveled off. Now we are just in debt, not IN DEBT UP TO OUR ASSHOLES.

You know, this too shall pass. It always does. It ain't fun going through, but go we shall.

Is that enough platitudes for ya?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (cm1Bl)

301 Oh my former apprentice on FoxBiz now supporting Trump.

I'd hit that like John Henry driving steel for the transcontinental railroad.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (bH+An)

302 "Im really glad the dems accepted the presidency of GWB right away."

------

Juan Williams just came out said it was appalling how he was treated and it only took him 16 years.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (8zHLN)

303 The term "open borders" has a long history associated with energy.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:50 PM (BS8yt)

304 John Paul Jones? Learned to tie knots from Vic.

Themistocles? Learned tactics at Vic's knee.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:50 PM (IcT7t)

305 I could use him. Found out today I need a crown. Kind of thought that was going to be the verdict.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (voOPb)

Save your money. Crowns are a temporary fix. Have the offending tooth pulled, and get an implant installed.

I had a crown put on one tooth. Dentist failed to excavate out the last little bit of decay in the root; it became abscessed, and hurt like Hell until I had it pulled.

I go to a dentist in Mexico. He is very good, and an implant runs about $1500, all in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 19, 2016 11:50 PM (CUYn5)

306 When did you pass thru Club Orlando? I went thru late August to early November 1993. Now there are houses and a park where the base use to be.
Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 19, 2016 11:47 PM (S/qwI)




A few months before you, FEB-APR '93. CTR1 Churchill and MM1 Hill, I053.

Posted by: Jim at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (GUBah)

307 "USNR 1970-1976 Boilerman second class. USS Wood DD715."

I will stand a round for anyone I meet who had to routinely deal with live steam in a confined space. (Much less under combat conditions. Holy cow.)

Gas turbine propulsion was a huge boon to the surface Navy.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (noWW6)

308 He should tell his wife he'll vote for Trump unless he gets a morning blowjob from until election day. Let her put her mouth to work for Hilary.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (ngn8T)


Genius.

Then vote for him anyway, amirite?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (SRKgf)

309 I was going to join the Navy, but I'm not gay.
Posted by: CSMBigBird
---------------

I had a similar problem with the Marine Corps, because, you know, my parents were married.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (9Q5BJ)

310 Then vote for him anyway, amirite?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Sleep in, don't vote.

Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:52 PM (ngn8T)

311 We're overweighted with swabbies here. I'm filing a complaint.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM

But the Cubs are winning, 10-2! Woohoo!

Posted by: Farmer at October 19, 2016 11:52 PM (o/90i)

312 Know why they have Marines on ships? So the Sailors have someone to dance with.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 19, 2016 11:53 PM (xInes)

313 I had a similar problem with the Marine Corps, because, you know, my parents were married.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (9Q5BJ)




And not related by blood.

Posted by: Jim at October 19, 2016 11:53 PM (GUBah)

314 Sleep in, don't vote.
Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:52 PM (ngn8T)

Sleep through a blow job? Then why bother?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:53 PM (cm1Bl)

315 Off, hack fibbie sock.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 19, 2016 11:54 PM (GUBah)

316 Know why they have Marines on ships? So the Sailors have someone to dance with.

I always thought it was because sheep are way too obvious.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 19, 2016 11:54 PM (IcT7t)

317 311 We're overweighted with swabbies here. I'm filing a complaint.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM

Army Corps of Engineers.

That isn't "corpse," for those who need to know.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:54 PM (cm1Bl)

318 I like the Navy, fine folks. Every time we need to go someplace to fight, they always give us a ride.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:54 PM (bH+An)

319 The debate wasn't exactly "Thunderdome" was it? I'm a bit dissappointed and more than a bit pessimistic now...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Aware and Noncompliant at October 19, 2016 11:54 PM (kP16F)

320 Is that enough platitudes for ya?
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:49 PM (cm1Bl)

Oh I can never get enough platitudes!

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 19, 2016 11:55 PM (0mRoj)

321 The term "open borders" has a long history associated with energy.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:50 PM (BS8yt)
----------------------
Imagine how much more economic growth we could have had if our import restrictions had not been preventing the importation of foreign oil all these years.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 19, 2016 11:55 PM (NUqwG)

322 But the Cubs are winning, 10-2! Woohoo!
Posted by: Farmer

It's not over yet!

Posted by: Steve Bartman at October 19, 2016 11:55 PM (TnUKj)

323 314 Sleep in, don't vote.
Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:52 PM (ngn8T)
Sleep through a blow job? Then why bother?
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:53 PM (cm1Bl)



EXCELLENT point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2016 11:55 PM (SRKgf)

324 >>>go to a dentist in Mexico. He is very good, and an implant runs about $1500, all in.


What's the price for an implant in Canada? USA? What are your costs to travel to Mexico? Lodging?

It might be cost effective

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (voOPb)

325 Army here, former paratrooper. There's a couple more around. Hold your ground!
Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war!
-----------

Hmm. Well those other guys won't know the one about the two things that come out of the sky... and I need someone to provide harassing cover fire, so I'll sit mum, and hoist a beer to you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (9Q5BJ)

326 For what it's worth (since anecdote =/= data), I drew my husband drastically to the right after we got married.

No, I did not withhold sex to achieve this.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (xVuS6)

327 I think what may be the case here is the Russians obviously realize they
would be better off with a weak president like Hillary,
***
Well, Hillary is promising war with Russia so that might have some effect on their views on the election...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (oyTLT)

328 The term "open borders" has a long history associated with energy.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 19, 2016 11:50 PM (BS8yt)

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere."

She totally lied saying this quote was only about energy. But the MSM will flush it down the memory hole.

Hillary is running to be Queen of the Western Hemisphere and guardian of the sacred sites of Islam beyond the seas.

Trump is running to be President of the USA.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (hA1V+)

329 CSMbigbird, a carrier goes anchors aweigh with 6000 people, and comes back with 3000 couples

Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (C+vbB)

330 His statement on abortion and sending the decision was brave. It was also very conservative; devolving the power of the fed back to the states.

He also hit on devolving the fed by deregulation.
He hit several solid points tonight.

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 19, 2016 11:57 PM (58UGl)

331 323 314 Sleep in, don't vote.
Posted by: Jean at October 19, 2016 11:52 PM (ngn8T)
Sleep through a blow job? Then why bother?
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:53 PM (cm1Bl)


If you can sleep through that, she doing it wrong.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 19, 2016 11:57 PM (xInes)

332 What's the price for an implant in Canada? USA? What are your costs to travel to Mexico? Lodging?

It might be cost effective
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (voOPb)
Mine was quoted $4000 (in KS), but that is for pulling a current implant, filling it with bone chips so the jaw can grow back, then after a year (?) of that, putting a new implant in.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 19, 2016 11:57 PM (6jt6G)

333 Sleep through a blow job? Then why bother?

That's oral sex, something to talk about, Amirite?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (voOPb)

334 High guys. Not here long, but the OPM hack did remind me that I've got a question I've been meaning to ask you smart people.

When exactly was that breach?

Because the all powerful federal government sent me a letter telling me I was possibly part of it...about two months ago.

On the bright side, if these fucking geniuses try to start loading boxcars or confiscating all those guns I wish I bought, I figure we'll be fine.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (9LDED)

335 "The bad news is Trump comes in 2nd after egg mcmuffin.
******************

It's a ghey poll that's not even included in the RCP average. Bullshit psyops by Romney's dickweenies."

------

Romney keeps sinking deeper and deeper in my estimation.

Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (8zHLN)

336 mullingthingsover

Pulling an existing implant? Ouch! Why?

I should just leave the GD popcorn alone

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:59 PM (voOPb)

337 Hey, wasn't Clinton supposed to answer or give a statement about her husband's accusers after Trump addressed his? Wallace never went back to it. No wiki questions, no WJC questions. If I was Clinton, I'd be happy too!

Posted by: Joanne at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (0s2g3)

338 OT/ There's a lot of military here tonight. Thank each and every one of you for your service. It warms the heart to know there are men and women like ya'll out there and here at Ace.

Thank you

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (58UGl)

339 I actually just read a story about a Sailor having a baby on a carrier.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (xInes)

340 You know Hillary smiled when Trump asked why Hillary won't give the Saudi money back considering they kill gas and oppress women, then she never answered the question

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (BS8yt)

341 A few months before you, FEB-APR '93. CTR1 Churchill and MM1 Hill, I053.
Posted by: Jim at October 19, 2016 11:51 PM (GUBah)


Ok. I had SM1 LeBlanc, I138. We were his first and last female company. LOL!

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (S/qwI)

342 @338

This
Thank you vets

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:01 AM (voOPb)

343 I just had to bitchslap Chris Murphy Senator of Conn. on DUMocrat Talking point that Gore conceded after all votes were counted ! BULLSHIT he conceded after SCOTUS slapped him down on a Unanimous vote

Posted by: Evilpens at October 20, 2016 12:01 AM (y3aQB)

344
"The bad news is Trump comes in 2nd after egg mcmuffin.
******************
It's a ghey poll that's not even included in the RCP average. Bullshit psyops by Romney's dickweenies."


They only polled gheys?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2016 12:02 AM (IqV8l)

345 Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (8zHLN) yeah like the Arizona Poll that has HRC up by 5 points & it has a 30 points Dem advantage in voters

Posted by: Evilpens at October 20, 2016 12:02 AM (y3aQB)

346 And Allahpundit is everything wrong with American Men...

There I finished it for you...

Posted by: William Eaton at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (MuTTO)

347 ***What's the price for an implant in Canada? USA? What are your costs to travel to Mexico? Lodging?
***

The dental school, intern, $2000.00.
On its second year and no problem.

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (58UGl)

348 I thought Trump did well in the "debate." If it will be enough to overcome all the fraud and corruption on November 8th remains to be seen. I doubt it.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (vYaiw)

349 326 For what it's worth (since anecdote =/= data), I drew my husband drastically to the right after we got married.
Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (xVuS6)



I did that with my wife. She was a go-with-the-flow-liberal, not committed, but it was the dominant social paradigm.

She was discombobulated to meet someone who responded to the dominant social paradigm with scorn and derision. Over the last *cough* years, my predictions have been ... borne out by events, and my stock with her has increased apace. She is now stoutly conservative, partly as a function of that, and partly as a function of concern for her (our) children.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)

350 I think what may be the case here is the Russians obviously realize they
would be better off with a weak president like Hillary,
***
Well, Hillary is promising war with Russia so that might have some effect on their views on the election...

Posted by: 18-1
****

And you think they believe her or fear her?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (hVdx9)

351 Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (8zHLN) yeah like the Arizona Poll that has HRC up by 5 points & it has a 30 points Dem advantage in voters

Only point of that is to depress Trump turnout.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (IcT7t)

352 NGU is Navy. And a dentist, so that's TWO strikes...

222 USNR 1970-1976 Boilerman second class. USS Wood DD715.
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM


Huh. Dad was an MM1 - I guess a boilerman. First the USS Manley, then he commissioned the USS Tenton. Was in the boiler room when the steam valve exploded on the shakedown cruise.

Hold Fast, sailor.

Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:04 AM (lvqY2)

353 Pulling an existing implant? Ouch! Why?

I should just leave the GD popcorn alone
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:59 PM (voOPb)

I had an implant put in 10ish years ago, but I never actually had the final one put on. I still have the temp one that is smaller and doesn't cover everything. I had bad gingivitis and it was really bad around the post. I had to have flap surgery so they could get everything cleaned and now I have to have cleanings every 3 months. Anyway, the gingivitis ate away some of the bone and so there isn't much holding the post in.

The dentist tried to unscrew the temp tooth off, but it is stuck, so in order to get a full sized one on there, he said he would need to pull the current one.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:04 AM (6jt6G)

354 Posted by: Decaf at October 19, 2016 11:58 PM (8zHLN) yeah like the Arizona Poll that has HRC up by 5 points & it has a 30 points Dem advantage in voters


New simile: "you lie like a pollster."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:05 AM (SRKgf)

355 Loved the Navy tribute video. Well done.

Posted by: Chinaacid at October 20, 2016 12:05 AM (N4CsA)

356
Real Tweet:

Ezra Klein

Hillary Clinton turned in the three most effective debate performances in modern political history



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 20, 2016 12:05 AM (kdS6q)

357 I dare say nuclear response time secret is second only in importance to the codes themselves

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:05 AM (BS8yt)

358 Yo all ya'll military peeps! Vote Trish Regan as... Next best to Melania Trump.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (Mt8T4)

359 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)

All hail Jay
A man who has saddle broken a woman and lived to tell about it

Bows at his feet and mutters i am not worthy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (voOPb)

360 Mitt was focused like a laser on the fine details of those all-important corporate taxation cases.

You know, the stuff that *really* matters to the national future.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 19, 2016 11:46 PM (noWW6)

Well, I mean, come the fuck on. I know you can get nervous on stage, but ... god dammit.

And Trump, I really truly believe, has no fuckin idea what's going on. Neither did Romney. Or McCain. Or Bush.

It's... beyond aggravating. Why can't we get one candidate who can articulate anything? Trump let so many possible attacks go on Hillary. So many.

So did Romney with Obama.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (cJrMO)

361 Here i gotta lay some music on you guys, too!

i dont know why, but this song by Cake makes me feel good:



https://youtu.be/3GxUQ322jbY



Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (YhV5r)

362 Plus Trish Regan, who I'd wreck like Herbie at the demolition derby.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (bH+An)

I had a crush on her ever since I saw her fine, fine ass in jeans on a CNBC program about pot growers in California.

Posted by: Deporable Ian Galt at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (8iiMU)

363 No offense intended to frustrated people ragging on Trump's "missed opportunities", but I strongly suspect it's a lot harder than it looks to successfully deliver those perfect bon mots. People don't respond in real life like omniverbose scripted characters in an Aaron Sorkin drama. And each snappy response also opens up a potential line of counter-attack for which one must also be prepared. There aren't any dramatic mic-drops here. Definitely not for a Republican.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (md1b/)

364 It's a ghey poll that's not even included in the RCP average. Bullshit psyops by Romney's dickweenies."

They only polled gheys?
********************

Well that would certainly explain why Egg McMuffin got a strong showing, since he looks like male genitalia.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (bH+An)

365 Loved the Navy tribute video. Well done.
Posted by: Chinaacid at October 20, 2016 12:05 AM (N4CsA)
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I love my mute button.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (NUqwG)

366 Isn't most of Megyn's success due to the fact that men like to grab pussy?

Posted by: Michael at October 20, 2016 12:08 AM (KClXw)

367 I actually just read a story about a Sailor having a baby on a carrier.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 20, 2016 12:00 AM (xInes)


When females were first deployed on surface combatant ships in 1994, almost half of the females on the USS Eisenhower got pregnant. It became known as the USS Eisenho.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 20, 2016 12:08 AM (S/qwI)

368 I had a crush on her ever since I saw her fine, fine ass in jeans on a CNBC program about pot growers in California.
**************

Man I would sure love to grab her....... book, on the topic.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:09 AM (bH+An)

369 And Trump, I really truly believe, has no fuckin idea what's going on. Neither did Romney. Or McCain. Or Bush.

It's... beyond aggravating. Why can't we get one candidate who can articulate anything? Trump let so many possible attacks go on Hillary. So many.

So did Romney with Obama.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (cJrMO)

----

Trump called the Clinton foundation a criminal enterprise, sounds like knowledge to me.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (BS8yt)

370 359 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)
All hail Jay
A man who has saddle broken a woman and lived to tell about it
Bows at his feet and mutters i am not worthy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (voOPb)



Yeah, well, as regulars can attest, I'm pretty gnarly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (SRKgf)

371 But the Cubs are winning, 10-2! Woohoo!
Posted by: Farmer

It's not over yet!
Posted by: Steve Bartman at October 19, 2016 11:55 PM

Now it is Stevie, Cubs win!

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (o/90i)

372 Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:04 AM (6jt6G)

Condolences. That sucks so bad

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (voOPb)

373 Posted by: GalosGann at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (md1b/)

Uh, I guess. We're a country of 320 million people. This is the best we can do?

On the facts, Trump or (fill in the blank) should beat Dems 10 times out of 10.

And yet...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (cJrMO)

374 * USS Trenton*
Forgive me, please. And fuck you autocucumber.

Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:11 AM (lvqY2)

375 A point that never gets raised when they let Hillary drone on about how she loves the 2d amendment is that Hillary wants a law under which gun manufacturers are liable to anyone shot with their guns.

So, she says she is for people having the right to own a gun but wants to bankrupt the manufacturers so there would be no guns to own.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:12 AM (hA1V+)

376 * USS Trenton*
Forgive me, please. And fuck you autocucumber.

Posted by: Chi
****

Buwhahahahaha! Back atcha bitch.

Posted by: Autocucumber at October 20, 2016 12:12 AM (hVdx9)

377 Condolences. That sucks so bad
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (voOPb)

Thanks. The flap surgery was awwwwwwful. It took 4 surgeries four weeks in a row. I was on hardcore pain medicine for 4 weeks straight.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:12 AM (6jt6G)

378 Rule of LGOPs
After the demise of the best Airborne plan, a most terrifying effect occurs on the battlefield.

This effect is known as the Rule of LGOPs. This is, in its purest form, small groups of 19- year old American Paratroopers. They are well-trained, armed-to-the-teeth and lack serious adult supervision. They collectively remember the Commander's intent as "March to the sound of the guns and kill anyone who is not dressed like you" ...or something like that. Happily they go about the day's work...


There's a guy who goes by the handle "LGOPs" on here sometimes, been a while since I've seen him, always assumed he was one, kind of a rare mix of letters to chance upon or mean anything else.

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 20, 2016 12:13 AM (CXLVd)

379 Trump called the Clinton foundation a criminal enterprise, sounds like knowledge to me.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (BS8yt)

Yeah... conclusory statements mean jackshit unless you're preaching to the choir.

Explain why you came to that conclusion. You have the winning argument.

But no, our candidates seem unable or unwilling to do that.

I think 75% of the morons on the 'hq could have done better against Hillary than Trump did.

Or then Romney / McCain did against Obama. Or Bush against Kerry / Gore.

Or HW against Clinton / Dukakis.

It's just... ridiculous. Dems don't seem to have this problem. They seem to know the questions in advance and have their deflections already composed. R's never have the killshot ready. It's beyond aggravating.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:13 AM (cJrMO)

380
...and it pisses me off that Trump is unable to point out these basic, basic, facts. Does he not know a single "nerd'?



And why can't he say "Hillary, there is no online loophole to
purchasing guns. Nor is there a a gunshow loophole. We have had
universal background checks since the early '90s and the Brady Bill."?
etc. etc. etc.



I mean, for fucks sake.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (cJrMO)

To be fair, he was probably thinking about all those toddlers running around unprotected, killing people. I mean, WTF?

Posted by: Joanne at October 20, 2016 12:14 AM (0s2g3)

381 "omniverbose"


I have a new goal in life

Posted by: Tomorrow's MSNBC guests at October 20, 2016 12:14 AM (vgMDK)

382 Yeah i am in a Cake kind of mood. but this one is awesome and timely:

Some people like to make life a little tougher...

https://youtu.be/OjL07JQ5cLo

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (YhV5r)

383 It's just... ridiculous. Dems don't seem to have this problem. They seem to know the questions in advance and have their deflections already composed. R's never have the killshot ready. It's beyond aggravating.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes
****

"...Dems don't seem to have this problem. They seem to know the questions in advance..."

They do. As we have seen the LSM gives them the questions in advance.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (hVdx9)

384 To be fair, he was probably thinking about all those toddlers running around unprotected, killing people. I mean, WTF?
Posted by: Joanne at October 20, 2016 12:14 AM (0s2g3)

Well, exactly. "hillary, it's already illegal for a toddler to buy guns. What exactly are you talking about? Do you mean it should be legal for police to enter any gun owners house, without a warrant, to conduct a search to see if the gun is "properly secured"?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (cJrMO)

385 What's the price for an implant in Canada? USA? What are your costs to travel to Mexico? Lodging?

It might be cost effective

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:56 PM (voOPb)

Implants run around $6000 in Canada. I am going to Arizona periodically in the winter, anyway. Dentist is in Los Algodones, just across border from Yuma. You park in a lot on the U.S. side of the border in a California indian reserve (five dollars, all day), and walk across the border into Los Algodones, which is full of medical and dental clinics, and pharmacies. No further than going into WalMart from the far side of the parking lot.

So, over and above the cost of going to PHX area for a vacation, I have a 4 hour drive to Yuma, and a night in a motel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (CUYn5)

386 It's... beyond aggravating. Why can't we get one candidate who can articulate anything? Trump let so many possible attacks go on Hillary. So many.

So did Romney with Obama.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (cJrMO)



Ever spoken in public? I have. Many times, with klieg lights and cameras rolling. A lecture theater with several hundred people drops one's IQ by 50 points, as we in the faculty used to joke. Stuff we'd know since Christ was a corporal occasionally eluded us as we stood under the lights, chalk in hand, 300 pimply faces eagerly awaiting our pronouncements.

I can't even begin to imagine the pressure of a Presidential candidate on national TV.

So cut the brother some slack.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (SRKgf)

387 Ace bangin that twitter whore

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (hA1V+)

388 Posted by: GalosGann at October 20, 2016 12:07 AM (md1b/)

It is called preparation.

Trump has to fight MSM, the conservative MSM, he shouldn't be one of his enemies as well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (voOPb)

389 They do. As we have seen the LSM gives them the questions in advance.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (hVdx9

Probably. But most of these questions are pretty... guessable.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:16 AM (cJrMO)

390 363 No offense intended to frustrated people ragging on Trump's "missed opportunities", but I strongly suspect it's a lot harder than it looks to successfully deliver those perfect bon mots. People don't respond in real life like omniverbose scripted characters in an Aaron Sorkin drama. And each snappy response also opens up a potential line of counter-attack for which one must also be prepared. There aren't any dramatic mic-drops here. Definitely not for a Republican.

Practice. Reagan had NOTEBOOKS full of bon mots, and he spent hours delivering them in front of the mirror. He was an actor, he knew that debates (hell, most public presidential functions) are performances and the first rule is to know your lines cold.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 12:16 AM (CTvSA)

391 "Dems don't seem to have this problem. They seem to know the questions in advance"

Gee whiz, Wally. How could *that* be happening?

It's almost as though the game is crooked, with unfair rules and bent referees, and Republicans know this, but nevertheless keep on agreeing time and again to the same game with the same rules and the same refs.

But we all know that couldn't possibly be true.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 20, 2016 12:16 AM (noWW6)

392 Ever spoken in public? I have. Many times, with klieg lights and cameras rolling. A lecture theater with several hundred people drops one's IQ by 50 points, as we in the faculty used to joke. Stuff we'd know since Christ was a corporal occasionally eluded us as we stood under the lights, chalk in hand, 300 pimply faces eagerly awaiting our pronouncements.

I can't even begin to imagine the pressure of a Presidential candidate on national TV.

So cut the brother some slack.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:15 AM (SRKgf)

Yeah, I was in sales for years before I went to law school. I was put on the spot constantly.

Trump is also a salesman. He is, I'm sure, put on the spot constantly.

But if he can't handle it... fine. I might not do great "under the lights."

But in a country of 320 million people, we can't find one person who can handle the pressure as well as the last, I don't know, 10 Dem nominees?

Seriously?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:17 AM (cJrMO)

393 No offense intended to frustrated people ragging on Trump's "missed
opportunities", but I strongly suspect it's a lot harder than it looks
to successfully deliver those perfect bon mots.



Good point. Trump is an ignoramus about the real nature of the Left. But he is the the only "Republican" I have seen since Reagan who is willing to fight.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 20, 2016 12:17 AM (vYaiw)

394 375 A point that never gets raised when they let Hillary drone on about how she loves the 2d amendment is that Hillary wants a law under which gun manufacturers are liable to anyone shot with their guns.
So, she says she is for people having the right to own a gun but wants to bankrupt the manufacturers so there would be no guns to own.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:12 AM (hA1V+)



Trump was smart to avoid that tar baby. He's trying to appeal to people of cooch, and that tack is a guaranteed loser with them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:17 AM (SRKgf)

395 On the facts, Trump or (fill in the blank) should beat Dems 10 times out of 10.

And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
---------------

The problem is beating 100% of the media.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 12:18 AM (ysprU)

396 Uh, I guess. We're a country of 320 million people. This is the best we can do?

On the facts, Trump or (fill in the blank) should beat Dems 10 times out of 10.

And yet...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:10 AM (cJrMO)


You know what? He may not have all the quick, prepared responses that people want, but he will get in the gutter with her trashy ass and fight. I will take that shit over all the other motherfuckers we have been given in the past. I am sick of this shit. We are past being nice. This bitch and her mob fight dirty...not one damn Republican out of the 17 (besides Trump) would be able to go there with her. Obama talked about getting into people's faces...well guess what? Donald Trump is that motherfucker that will do it.

Rant over...

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 20, 2016 12:18 AM (S/qwI)

397 When I was a toddler I shot an infant just to watch it die

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:18 AM (voOPb)

398 Practice. Reagan had NOTEBOOKS full of bon mots, and he spent hours delivering them in front of the mirror. He was an actor, he knew that debates (hell, most public presidential functions) are performances and the first rule is to know your lines cold.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 12:16 AM (CTvSA)

Right. Reagan was very competent at not only debating (his 1 with Carter), but on answering reporters questions.

...oh, and he won 49 states.

And yet, we haven't been able to field ANYONE who can do that since.

But the Dems can do it time after time after time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (cJrMO)

399 Maybe Harry. Televised debates aren't about that type of stuff. The first rule is avoid or win all gotchas. The second is point is paint your opponent with easily remembered image.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (BS8yt)

400 You know what? He may not have all the quick, prepared responses that people want, but he will get in the gutter with her trashy ass and fight. I will take that shit over all the other motherfuckers we have been given in the past. I am sick of this shit. We are past being nice. This bitch and her mob fight dirty...not one damn Republican out of the 17 (besides Trump) would be able to go there with her. Obama talked about getting into people's faces...well guess what? Donald Trump is that motherfucker that will do it.

Rant over...
Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 20, 2016 12:18 AM (S/qwI)

Yeah, but he had dozens of opportunities to go for the jugular and he didn't.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (cJrMO)

401 Trump was smart to avoid that tar baby.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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You will report to Sensitivity Training Camp #13, 0800 hours, tomorrow.

Posted by: Ministry of Justice at October 20, 2016 12:20 AM (ysprU)

402 People keep saying that debating is hard, so give Trump a break. Could I do it on national TV? Hell no! But I'm not running for President of the United States!!!!

Posted by: anotherjoe at October 20, 2016 12:20 AM (072rE)

403 Test.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:21 AM (Idu2i)

404 The problem is beating 100% of the media.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 12:18 AM (ysprU)

Thats a separate issue.

Trump had literally dozens of missed opportunities tonight.

Wallace was... as fair as you're going to get from the MSM. Trump could have DOMINATED tonight, but he let so many opportunities slide.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:21 AM (cJrMO)

405 Who is this Allahpundit piece of shit, and why should I care what he thinks?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (Idu2i)

406 402 People keep saying that debating is hard, so give Trump a break. Could I do it on national TV? Hell no! But I'm not running for President of the United States!!!!
Posted by: anotherjoe at October 20, 2016 12:20 AM (072rE)

Exactly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (cJrMO)

407 It's... beyond aggravating. Why can't we get one candidate who can articulate anything? Trump let so many possible attacks go on Hillary. So many.

So did Romney with Obama.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:06 AM (cJrMO)


He continuously gave up his time tonight.

The man cannot speak in complete sentences. If one is up on current events, you can more or less follow his two-word references by virtue of already being familiar with the material.

He can't stay with the topic, and keeps jumping backward to repeat one of the few phrases he'd already said a dozen times.

In the one instance of continuing to hammer home the idea that Hillary has had a long, long run of incompetence, he came closer making something stick than on almost any other topic, but for the most part, he's just a lost cause.

I'm voting trump and bitterly clinging to my guns and religion, regardless of the result. But my neck is sore from shaking my head, and I will need months to recover from having to listen to Hillary's voice and watch snot pour from her nose.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (TqXWc)

408 Yeah, I was in sales for years before I went to law school. I was put on the spot constantly.

There's on the spot, and then there's on the spot.

Having lights in your eyes and cameras rolling is truly "on the spot." Bullshitting prospective buyers is nothing like the reality of having your every word recorded for prosperity. Now even if prosperity does not in fact give a shit about your every word, it's intimidating to think that if you put your foot in your mouth, it will be used to beat you over the head forever.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (SRKgf)

409 ...oh, and he won 49 states.

And yet, we haven't been able to field ANYONE who can do that since.

But the Dems can do it time after time after time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes
****

Also, the dems just lie outright knowing the media will cover for them.
Hillary claims she doesn't want to ban guns, but all the lefties know she will sure as hell try and they want her to.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (hVdx9)

410 Since Hillary knows so many women aborting 9 months to term, I'm going to say that her aborted baby blood use is confirmed

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (BS8yt)

411 i wasn't really in the military: i just spent 20+ years with the world's largest military re-enactment organization.

the CA ARNG.

my body's just as fucked as if i'd been a *real* Soldier though.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 12:23 AM (r3GNW)

412 ...oh, and he won 49 states.

And yet, we haven't been able to field ANYONE who can do that since.

But the Dems can do it time after time after time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes


That was against Mondale, not Carter. And *no* Dem has won 49 states.

That being said, yeah...in a country of 320M, there are probably a bunch that could do better, but not any of them ran for the office.

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 20, 2016 12:23 AM (CXLVd)

413 401 Trump was smart to avoid that tar baby.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
------------
You will report to Sensitivity Training Camp #13, 0800 hours, tomorrow.
Posted by: Ministry of Justice at October 20, 2016 12:20 AM (ysprU



Say what?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:23 AM (SRKgf)

414 Cubs win, Trump wins, Good night all around.

Be well all you good souls.

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2016 12:23 AM (o/90i)

415 I remember Reagan. While he was in office, the press was constantly sniping that he was inarticulate and simplistic.

It is only in hindsight with his success in the mind of the public that the media has had to acknowledge his strengths.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:24 AM (hA1V+)

416 Posted by: TexasDan at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (TqXWc)

Right. I know what he's saying, but he's preaching to the fucking choir with me. Explain yourself in full sentences and tie everything together and you'll win converts. Throwing out bullet points does nothing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (SRKgf)

Well, if you don't have that talent, then don't run for President.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:24 AM (cJrMO)

417 402 People keep saying that debating is hard, so give Trump a break. Could I do it on national TV? Hell no! But I'm not running for President of the United States!!!!
Posted by: anotherjoe at October 20, 2016 12:20 AM (072rE)

Exactly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (cJrMO)

And you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had. Does anyone here honestly think that any of the GOP field, other than Cruz, would have done better in a debate? And I don't know if Cruz has enough of the killer instinct. He might be too cerebral to get down in the gutter and mud wrassle with the Cankles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:25 AM (CUYn5)

418 Well, I thought he did good.

And I'm as impartial as you get

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:25 AM (BS8yt)

419
Trump was smart to avoid that tar baby.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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You will report to Sensitivity Training Camp #13, 0800 hours, tomorrow.
Posted by: Ministry of Justice


He will be punished by lightning bolts administered by the camp magician.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2016 12:25 AM (IqV8l)

420 Harry you are more than welcome to run for President

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM (BS8yt)

421 Yeah, but he had dozens of opportunities to go for the jugular and he didn't.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (cJrMO)


He did better--still embarassingly bad, but better--in the second debate, which he entered having been a washout in the first one.

I wonder if he didn't have the right mindset going into this one, having performed the way he did in the second.

But mindset doesn't fix grammar. And he's never been able to communicate complete ideas. We joke around here about Trump's tweets, but its not affected with him. That's what his brain produces.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM (TqXWc)

422 Know what pisses me off?
I ran out of ginger ale mid-way through the debate.
So I'm using up all my Otter Pops in lieu of ice cubes, and am now drinking bourbon & kool-aid.

Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM (lvqY2)

423 Trump gonna Trump. He's not articulate and wishcasting that he was isn't going to change anything. Do I wish he was a better, more Reaganesque speaker, absolutely. But I'm glad he does one thing the GOP never does, which is fight like a dirty pussy grabbing bastard.

No GOP candidate in existence that I know of would have had the stones to say fuck off to the GOP calling him to step down and then parade around Clinton's sex abuse victims prior to the second debate.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (bH+An)

424 And trump is mr. Tv
So there should be. A yuuge advantage

He wasn't serious on prep and it showed bigly

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (voOPb)

425 i wasn't really in the military: i just spent 20+ years with the world's largest military re-enactment organization.

the CA ARNG.

my body's just as fucked as if i'd been a *real* Soldier though.
Posted by: redc1c4


Hey, you guys ARE real.

My heroes from the Gulf War are a group of WVNG S&T unit who showed up with MOBILE SHOWERS in the middle of the desert sometime in January of '91. First shower (and HOT at that!) I'd had in 6 weeks. Those guys were my heroes!

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (CXLVd)

426 Ninja guy. Clanging balls. Amirite.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Hobo, the other white meat' at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (G0a1e)

427 And you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had. Does anyone here honestly think that any of the GOP field, other than Cruz, would have done better in a debate? And I don't know if Cruz has enough of the killer instinct. He might be too cerebral to get down in the gutter and mud wrassle with the Cankles.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:25 AM (CUYn5)

Uh... I don't know. I think Cruz, Rand, Christie, and about 25% of the adult population would have done better.

And even Mitt -- look at Primary Mitt -- he was a fucking machine. General Election Mitt choked.

I just don't get it.

I mean, I don't know how much debates matter, but it's ridiculous that we can't get articulate people as our nominees.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (cJrMO)

428 I"m female and that whole hoohaa now has me voting for him.

And I've been a Fox watcher since they started as nobodies, and Megyn Kelly has quite literally driven me to Fox Business. My only entertainment is thinking about how she righteously denied that her husband has said anything crass like that, and then....I couldn't stop belly laughing.

Btw, we need to pepper every conversation about Trump with 'Remember Al Gore? He sure was a gracious loser!'

Posted by: tired at October 20, 2016 12:28 AM (kOGRT)

429 403 Test.
Posted by: Country Boy
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You passed, but we grade on a curvery here, so...

Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:28 AM (lvqY2)

430 420 Harry you are more than welcome to run for President
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM (BS8yt)

..Do I have your vote?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:28 AM (cJrMO)

431 Right. I know what he's saying, but he's preaching to the fucking choir with me. Explain yourself in full sentences and tie everything together and you'll win converts. Throwing out bullet points does nothing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:22 AM (SRKgf)

Well, if you don't have that talent, then don't run for President.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:24 AM (cJrMO)



First, I did not say the quote attributed to me here.

Second, Trump outmaneuvered and out-campaigned all other GOP candidates, none of whom would have done the slightest bit better, and most of whom would have long since been bent over the kitchen table and nailed in the squeaker by the MSM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:29 AM (SRKgf)

432
And yet, we haven't been able to field ANYONE who can do that since.


But the Dems can do it time after time after time
---

They have the media on their side. O'bumbles is an idiot, yet he's a genius according to the media.

So no.. they don't do it time after time. They just have the right people helping them cheat and maintain a fake image.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 20, 2016 12:29 AM (tvyXw)

433 And I don't know if Cruz has enough of the killer instinct. He might be too cerebral to get down in the gutter and mud wrassle with the Cankles.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Cruz would STILL BE in the parking lot finishing his awesome, constitutionally-sound rebuttal in his nasally, he-bitch voice at this moment.

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 20, 2016 12:29 AM (CXLVd)

434 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:29 AM (SRKgf)

It was a beautiful, glorious, quote though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:30 AM (cJrMO)

435 Funny, that some unnamed "point" wasn't made = OMG he totally fd up!

Seriously? He did very well indeed

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:30 AM (C9pBZ)

436 anyways, I'm out. Early morning, life, and stuff.

G'night all, keep it real.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:31 AM (cJrMO)

437 One final comment, look at Hillary's performance. I can't recall anything from it except the defense of full term abortion and her giving up TS information.

Yet Trump clearly painted her as a major cause of instability in the world, incompetent, and corrupt.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:31 AM (BS8yt)

438 422 Know what pisses me off?
I ran out of ginger ale mid-way through the debate.
So I'm using up all my Otter Pops in lieu of ice cubes, and am now drinking bourbon & kool-aid.
Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM (lvqY2)

In another time & place it was store brand vodka & Apple koolaid
Mom thought I had issues

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2016 12:31 AM (voOPb)

439 No GOP candidate in existence that I know of would have had the stones to say fuck off to the GOP calling him to step down and then parade around Clinton's sex abuse victims prior to the second debate.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (bH+An)

And no other GOP candidate would have stood up there and said the simple truth that she is a criminal who belongs in jail and that he as president would have her prosecuted.

And after saying that, GOPe mouthpieces like Krauthammer peed their pants and said prosecuting crooked Hillary would turn us into a "banana republic."

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:31 AM (hA1V+)

440 All of you hand-wringers can stuff it. Trump is going to be an awesome president.

Check it...

https://twitter.com/obamamalik/status/788928636996886528

Posted by: Kaldar at October 20, 2016 12:32 AM (8Wsi4)

441 didn't watch the debate yall, I did see Weirddaves quote which is......sad.

So I need the cliffs version, who won?

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at October 20, 2016 12:32 AM (R5HRU)

442
O'bumbles is an idiot, yet he's a genius according to the media.

They (MSNBC) tell me his brain is just so powerful that his mouth can't keep up with it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (IqV8l)

443 She is now stoutly conservative, partly as a function of that, and partly as a function of concern for her (our) children.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)

Okay, here's my question, and I've never gotten a straight answer on it (or a gay one, for that matter.): How can a woman have children, carry them for nine months, give birth to them, tend them and care for them and nurture them and love the living daylights out of them, and still think abortion is no big deal.

Since I never got pregnant, and adopted, my view is a bit different. If there was no abortion in this country, my adoption process would have been expedient and simple. Instead, to adopt an infant, we went to Guatemala. People killed my potential children, basically, so I'm postively nuclear when it comes to the subject.

But how, in their most intimate experience and thought, could a mother think that abortion was okay?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (cm1Bl)

444 ..Do I have your vote?


Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:28 AM (cJrMO)

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Only if you win the debates

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (BS8yt)

445 I think Cruz, Rand, Christie, and about 25% of the adult population would have done better.
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In a debate, sure. In a general election, they would have gotten their asses reamed. Mostly because all of them, and to some extent Trump himself (until fairly recently), do not realize just how much the media utterly despises and wants to murder them.

I mean seriously, I remember when Romney was trying to make a serious, valid point on hiring women, and the media turned that into ROMNEY KEEPS WOMEN IN BINDERS!!!11 *flails*

The result was the largest gender gap in Gallup voting history, of course. Because, BINDERS! And also Romney doesn't think birth control is a constitutional right.

So you have a polished politician here grooming himself for the presidency with the perfect t presidential hair, and he still couldn't forsee or handle what the media threw at him.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (bH+An)

446 442
O'bumbles is an idiot, yet he's a genius according to the media.

They (MSNBC) tell me his brain is just so powerful that his mouth can't keep up with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (IqV8l)

Mine can, but the words are unprintable at this point.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:34 AM (cm1Bl)

447 Not all guys and girl under 30 are completely bonkers. I have twin nieces, just turned 26. They and their large circle of friends are about 95% in the tank for Trump. They just can't imagine Hillary being considered for the job.

Posted by: Bill R. at October 20, 2016 12:34 AM (GYuMu)

448 New poll out of Utah.

Hillary is coming in 3rd:

https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/788833184037400576

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 19, 2016 11:03 PM (vBeA5)

Problem is EggaMuffin is first.

If Utah denies Trump the Presidency, I hope they get nuked.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:35 AM (Idu2i)

449 And no other GOP candidate would have stood up there and said the simple truth that she is a criminal who belongs in jail and that he as president would have her prosecuted."

This needs repeated. Constantly. No one in the national GOPe has done this to either her or Teh Won.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:35 AM (C9pBZ)

450 I just don't get it.

I mean, I don't know how much debates matter, but it's ridiculous that we can't get articulate people as our nominees.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:27 AM (cJrMO)


Or strategists that work with the material they have.

Your candidate is ADD and cannot hold three concepts together in his head.

Give him two. Teach him how to do theme and various on those two points. Know them from all angles.

33k emails---great, he remembered a number.

She's in the middle of some tirade about Russians being involved in the election and Trump can't land a blow there? She's going ON AND ON about cyber attacks and he cannot expose the nakedness of her complete incompetence when it comes to cyber security?

So Hillary; tell me about how you protected the security of electronic communications when you were SoS.

Please, illuminate us all on your brilliant understanding of these things.

Share with us again your willingness to make our national cyber security an issue of paramount importance.

You can write these lines perfectly for his type of delivery. You can write them in such a way that it really would not be recoverable. It's a well he could go to again and again and again.

I'll stop ranting now.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 20, 2016 12:36 AM (TqXWc)

451 "We're in a time in Syria where they're not finished killing each other."

Posted by: The Wit & Wisdom of Chairperson Hillary, as revealed to Goldman Sachs at October 20, 2016 12:37 AM (YAQ6y)

452 One final comment, look at Hillary's performance. I can't recall anything from it except the defense of full term abortion


Was she looking at Chelsea at the time?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:37 AM (SRKgf)

453 And after saying that, GOPe mouthpieces like Krauthammer peed their pants and said prosecuting crooked Hillary would turn us into a "banana republic."
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That's the fun thing about the world right now.

If we prosecute Hillary, we're a banana republic.

If we don't prosecute Hillary, we're a banana republic.

lose/lose

/SMOD oh SMOD, why have you forsaken us?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 20, 2016 12:38 AM (tvyXw)

454 They (MSNBC) tell me his brain is just so powerful that his mouth can't keep up with it.

So he's faulty because his clutch is slipping.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 12:38 AM (IcT7t)

455 One final comment, look at Hillary's performance. I can't recall anything from it except the defense of full term abortion and her giving up TS information.
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The only recall I have now was that she was contentious, bitchy, and dare I say, nasty woman as phony as a three dollar bill. She gave polished responses that weren't answers at all but mostly stale platitudes. In other words, typical politician. If people are truly in a change mood, her whole demeanor tonight was disastrous.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (bH+An)

456
Okay, here's my question, and I've never gotten a straight answer on it (or a gay one, for that matter.): How can a woman have children, carry them for nine months, give birth to them, tend them and care for them and nurture them and love the living daylights out of them, and still think abortion is no big deal.

Since I never got pregnant, and adopted, my view is a bit different. If there was no abortion in this country, my adoption process would have been expedient and simple. Instead, to adopt an infant, we went to Guatemala. People killed my potential children, basically, so I'm postively nuclear when it comes to the subject.

But how, in their most intimate experience and thought, could a mother think that abortion was okay?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (cm1Bl)



My guess: she doesn't think about it in this connection. Doublethink, I believe it's called.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (SRKgf)

457 he cannot expose the nakedness of her complete incompetence when it comes to cyber security? "

We must have listened to different events, then, as I did hear him refer, several times, to her being in office...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (C9pBZ)

458 But how, in their most intimate experience and thought, could a mother think that abortion was okay?

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (cm1Bl)


Very often women are pressured into having an abortion by abusive men. A real War on Women fully supported by the Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (vYaiw)

459 There's a lot wrong with the culture that Trump had nothing to do with.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at October 20, 2016 12:40 AM (XfHd6)

460 Bill R. @ 447

Pro tip:
The words "26 year old twin nieces" and "in the tank" should never be uttered here in the same post.
Just sayin'...

Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:40 AM (lvqY2)

461 Yeah, but he had dozens of opportunities to go for the jugular and he didn't.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (cJrMO

Snakes don't have jugulars.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 20, 2016 12:40 AM (aN6O8)

462 But, they were located behind a safety barrier.

"As the plaintiff was watching the event from behind a safety net on the premises, a cheese wheel came rolling down the hill and stretched the safety net colliding with the plaintiff, causing her to be knocked to the ground and sustain injury, loss and damage," the claim reads.

If it was me, I would think I was doing the responsible thing by staying behind the safety net. If the safety net is inadequate to the occasion, that's on the event sponsors.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM (R+30W)

Um, no.

If you're standing right behind the safety net thinking that thing ain't gonna give at all, you probably deserve to be whacked for your stupidity.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:41 AM (Idu2i)

463 Oh and BTW when I say the media utterly despises and want to murder Trump (or any GOP candidate that ran against Hillary) I'm not being hyperbolic.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:41 AM (bH+An)

464 Did CK really say that or is that a paraphrase? I've already lost what respect I had for him, and that would finish it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:41 AM (C9pBZ)

465 And what, in the ever loving hell, are "common sense restrictions on abortion?"

Can you come up with one where the baby doesn't end up dead?

I'm confused as hell about "common sense restrictions" on gun ownership (and so far, not one gun has ever jumped up and killed a baby), but when that term is applied to abortion, I'm positively bewildered.

Of course, I never understood penumbras and emanations from the constitution, so I guess I'mnot a subtle enough thinker on this topic.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (cm1Bl)

466 Quick question for the horde:

Are there a lot of presidential signs up in yards around your area? If yes, are they who they should be for? You know, Trump in the Republican areas, Queen FAB in the others?

I'm in SE Michigan. Union Democrat land. There are MINIMAL signs here. During the primaries, there were lots of Bernie signs. Now.. signs are at a minimal.

But... at this point, I'm probably seeing 2 to 3 Trump signs for every Hillary sign. And more Trump signs are appearing in a union Democrat area. That being said, in my area, I haven't really seen more than a dozen signs in total, which is super strange.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (tvyXw)

467 I have twin nieces, just turned 26. They and their large circle of friends are about 95% in the tank for Trump. They just can't imagine Hillary being considered for the job.
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Where do they live and what are their numbers?

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (bH+An)

468 Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:33 AM (cm1Bl)

I think in many cases, young women have abortions before they have children. Then they are emotionally, physically and mentally scarred for life. They know what they did is wrong and they have to pretend it wasn't. So even after having children, they still can't own up to the fact that they killed their first child.

I've lost 2 babies, so I feel ya. Some of the things these people say make me feel ill.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (6jt6G)

469 Very often women are pressured into having an abortion by abusive men. A real War on Women fully supported by the Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (vYaiw)

This I am aware of, completely. That's why I give lots of little knitted items to the Women's Care Center in Madison, WI. Some ladies mistake it for PP and come in to get an ultrasound and walk out mommies. A very nice place, that. The Bishop there gave permission to repose the Sacred Eucharist there, and it has done the trick.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:44 AM (cm1Bl)

470 We must have listened to different events, then, as I did hear him refer, several times, to her being in office...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:39 AM (C9pBZ)


That's about twenty dots and two counties away for the average LIV.

He had to point out that she created her own, unsecure server. I would have connected that to every point, hounded her on it mercilessly. In every debate. Make her repeat her lame line about the FBI having conducted an investigation so often she herself is sick of hearing it--and drag her into the minutiae of all that's coming out in the wikileaks emails.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (TqXWc)

471 I'm a little worried that the LDS hierarchy is whispering the White Horse Prophecy to the ears of the Utah faithful.

That's the one Orrin Hatch cited in his own (abortive) run for the Presidency. Joseph Smith Jr blathered about the time "the Constitution hangs by a thread". The LDS would then hold the power to save it (like Joe ever much cared for the rule of law himself).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (6FqZa)

472 Found out today I need a crown.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 19, 2016 11:10 PM


I found out I needed one 7.5 years ago.

Posted by: HRH Barky I at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (YAQ6y)

473 How did I miss this?


https://tinyurl.com/j5qtmd9



O'Keefe filed a complaint with the FEC.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (GUBah)

474 Know what pisses me off?
I ran out of ginger ale mid-way through the debate.
So I'm using up all my Otter Pops in lieu of ice cubes, and am now drinking bourbon & kool-aid.
Posted by: Chi at October 20, 2016 12:26 AM

Life is rough in your neighborhood buttercup.

Be well and keep Tucker safe. I'm off to bed w/ our 2 pet morons.

Wait...who's farting here? Bailey, I think it's you!

Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (o/90i)

475 Are there a lot of presidential signs up in yards around your area? If yes, are they who they should be for? You know, Trump in the Republican areas, Queen FAB in the others?

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Trump Country here in Colorado. I just passed by a pickup truck today with a YUUUUUUGE Trump banner on his trailer and flags, and generally all the rural areas here are littered with Trump signs and banners everywhere. When you go down to Pueblo they taper off, but even then you'd be hard pressed to see a Hillary sign. I only saw one billboard for Johnson and one or two Hillary signs in a Pueblo neighborhood, plus a big one over the democrat office in Pueblo's downtown. But even then they are few and far between.

There is definitely an enthusiasm gap, i just hope that plus the shy Trump vote number in the millions and make the difference on election day.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:46 AM (bH+An)

476 464 Did CK really say that or is that a paraphrase? I've already lost what respect I had for him, and that would finish it.


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http://bit.ly/2e9Y0qa

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 20, 2016 12:46 AM (hA1V+)

477 He articulated right to life, how it's going to go with SCOTUS, the second amendment, and his economic concept clearly and definitively. Those are important points to the presidency that whatsername only hit on the emotional level.
He elaborated those points well. What he did not do was - take her out.





Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 20, 2016 12:46 AM (58UGl)

478 I've lost 2 babies, so I feel ya. Some of the things these people say make me feel ill.
Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (6jt6G)

You have two little saints. I'm amazed at the truly obnoxious things people say in these situations. I have a friend who has eight kids now, two sets of twins, but also three in heaven. Someone actually told her she is lucky because she has so many she probably forgets about the loss. Just...wow.

I guess if people can be that callous about kids, they can be the same about abortions. Ick.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:47 AM (cm1Bl)

479 TRump is not afraid of the Hag. AND he sure as hell does not respect her.

For gratuitous verbal violence he enjoys knocking Hillary's dick in the dirt.

The Dems thought they would NEVER have to deal with Anyone who would give it back to them harder than they served it.

Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at October 20, 2016 12:47 AM (jZzQe)

480 . I would have connected that to every point, hounded her on it mercilessly. "

While no doubt satisfying, one must cover more than one line, which I thought he did, esp. by noting the number of terrible acts carried out under her watch. Really took the "experience" stuffing out of her, and visibly irritated her...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:49 AM (C9pBZ)

481 Now even if prosperity does not in fact give a shit about your every word, it's intimidating to think that if you put your foot in your mouth, it will be used to beat you over the head forever.

You could put me on stage with klieg lights in my face and electrodes attached to my wife with your finger over the button to shock her and grill me on my professional expertise and I would STILL be able to coherently and professionally. It's called having your opinions informed by your beliefs. AOP mentioned Cruz. That was his strength, he destroyed Trump on the merits in all the debates. You couldn't knock him off balance, he'd blink once and then smoothly respond with facts.

What Cruz lacked was his delivery and his inability to get away from Harvard Debate Club rules. Trump GUTTED him in those arenas. Mario tried to respond in kind in those areas but he was just so pathetically BAD at it that it backfired. A candidate with conservative principles rooted in sincere beliefs with the visceral glee over cutting a bitch when called for would be unbeatable.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 12:51 AM (CTvSA)

482 477
Indeed. He clearly separated himself from BroomHilda on key points.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (C9pBZ)

483 Hillary was a mess.

- 4 minutes to launch nukes
- bragging about the Foundation
- bragging about going to war with Russia over Syria No Fly zones
- toddlers get guns
- doubling down on Obamanomics
- Trump says mean things
- turned into the Robot.
- filibustering
- pro 2nd Amendment
- pro open borders because Energy
- fell back to Miss Venezuela
- desperate and on the defense
- pro late term abortion and abortion is intimate.
- chooses foreign children and families over American children and families
- said Alleppo was not lost.
- claimed she will bomb Raqqa
- cannot name one thing she has done
- claimed to help Haiti
- claimed watered down AIDS drugs saved lives in Africa
- proved she was all talk
-.thought Trump buying Chinese steel was illegal and a zinger
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Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (aN6O8)

484 Trumps campaign manager has said in response to criticism last debate about why didn't he say this or that that it is the campaign s job to follow up on those points in detail because you don't have time in a debate. So this is where ads and social media come in

Posted by: Jen the original at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (ntZAP)

485 Watch FOX Business. Cavuto and Dobbs are pretty dang good.
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Plus Trish Regan, who I'd wreck like Herbie at the demolition derby.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:14 PM (bH+An)

I've been hopelessly in love with Liz Claman since her days at CNBC.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (Idu2i)

486 Posted by: Country Singer at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (GUBah)

Dismissed. No standing. (my guess)

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:53 AM (6jt6G)

487 I have seen exactly two Hillary signs, and neither one spelled out her name. They were just that stupid cutout that looks like directions to the hospital.

No surprising, up here, but still.

In Anchorage we have enough lefties to annoy everyone, but not enough to really do too much damage.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:53 AM (cm1Bl)

488 Well, off to bed. See the usual suspects in the am!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 20, 2016 12:53 AM (C9pBZ)

489 Hillary bleating about Russian hackers (and the security dangers surrounding them) just a few news cycles out of avoiding prison for having set up a secondary server with AdAware Free and MalwareBytes 2.0 so she could use one device. Priceless.

What a visionary Commander in Chief she would be.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at October 20, 2016 12:54 AM (eqtQU)

490 Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 12:42 AM (bH+An)


Sorry, they both have significant others, and one of them is the mother of twins, too. But hey, they're both in the eastern suburbs of Detroit.

Posted by: Bill R. at October 20, 2016 12:56 AM (GYuMu)

491 I got my ballot last night and dropped it off this morning. I voted for Trump. And for all the other Republicans they let me vote for in this county.

I voted against all the initiatives and amendments and tax-hikes. Except for Amendment 71, because I want it to be a lot harder to propose all that SJW crap in future.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2016 12:56 AM (6FqZa)

492 Off to sleep paralysis and silent, horrified screaming.

Good night, Horde!

Posted by: Denny Crane! at October 20, 2016 12:57 AM (eqtQU)

493 Dismissed. No standing. (my guess)
Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 12:53 AM (6jt6G)




Already? He filed it yesterday.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 20, 2016 12:57 AM (GUBah)

494 WD, thanks for the ONT. Particularly like tbe QotD segment. Y'all have a good night!

Posted by: tbodie at October 20, 2016 12:57 AM (GHHRC)

495 Hillary is going to "win." Trump is right in saying it's rigged. The Democrats have built systems of vote fraud in the so-called swing states to assure their victory.

Posted by: cm9000 at October 20, 2016 12:58 AM (vYaiw)

496 487 I have seen exactly two Hillary signs, and neither one spelled out her name. They were just that stupid cutout that looks like directions to the hospital.

No surprising, up here, but still.

In Anchorage we have enough lefties to annoy everyone, but not enough to really do too much damage.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 12:53 AM (cm1Bl)

The Horizontal Arrow on the Hillary symbol? Sure looks Phallic to me..

So.... is that Bill???

Looks pretty Rapey to me! So why is she now supporting the Rape culture?

Posted by: Don Q... at October 20, 2016 12:58 AM (qf6WZ)

497 Well, in other news, I fired my phone company today. No more land line. The line was becoming noisy, and this morning, it dropped a call for no reason. Tried and tried to call the repair service, get the "push 1 for Optik TV, push 2 for accounts" run-around, only to be put on never-never hold, forced to endure shitty hip-hop music for an unknown but long duration...

So while this is going on, I grab my cell phone, and call their business repair number, for those with more than 3 lines, doncha know? Get connected to some dude in the Phillipines, who takes my information, and then tells me he can't help me because I am a residential consumer. I said, "Do you know why I am talking to you?" "Because you need your line repaired?" Me, "No, because I have the landline phone playing shitty hiphop music while I am waiting, and waiting, and fucking waiting, to get connected to the repair service. That's why, I am talking to you. Understand me?" "Yes, sir." Me, "OK then. You call the residential repair service, give them my cell number, and get them to call me back when they get to my problem in the queue. Because my time has value." "OK, sir." "Fine, I'll hang up now, thank you."

Several hours go by. No call back. I make another call to the Phillipine National Procrastination Company, since calling the "local" repair service has been fruitless already. "Hi there, Miguel. I called one of your compatriots earlier, and he assured me that the repair service would call me back. Jackwagons never called. So I want to cancel my Telus account, and pay the final bill." "I can't do that for you. This is commercial account repair service." Me, "I know that, but I can't reach a real live human at the Canadian Telus number. You, I can reach." "Oh. Well maybe I can transfer your call."

Finally get connected to "Alana" of the "customer loyalty" department (George Orwell, you copy?). "I'm sorry to hear you are disappointed with our service. How can I help you?" Me, "You can help me by disconnecting my line. I am fed up with having a noisy line. I am fed up with having to navigate through a menu-based answering machine, only to be placed on interminable hold with shitty hip-hop music being played. I am fed up with having to talk to some dude in the Phillipines about my phone issues, when he has absolutely no skin in the game besides sticking to his damned script. I am fed up with paying First-World prices for phone service, while Telus pays Third-World labor rates for their help desk operators. Do you hear me?" Alana, "I hear you loud and clear." Me, "Good. Now disconnect my land line. It has ceased to be of use to me. Send me a final bill to pay. And be damned sure to tell your supervisors and managers why they just lost a customer of long standing. Understand?" Alana, "Understood. We will turn off your land line at midnight, and send you a final bill. Thanks for choosing Telus."

So that was my day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:58 AM (CUYn5)

498 Already? He filed it yesterday.
Posted by: Country Singer at October 20, 2016 12:57 AM (GUBah)
Both were guesses.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 01:02 AM (6jt6G)

499 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:58 AM (CUYn5)

Customer service is a lost art these days. If we lived in a real capitalist system with actual competition, a-holes like your phone company would be out of business.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 20, 2016 01:02 AM (J+mig)

500 I didn't know Rick Perry and Marcus Lutrell were for Trump.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 01:04 AM (6jt6G)

501 So when does the Eloi Indoctrination Manual drop into my Inbox?

Or will the Crats just go old school and set up ghettos for the unbelievers?

Posted by: dissent555 at October 20, 2016 01:04 AM (GdgAM)

502 -.thought Trump buying Chinese steel was illegal and a zinger

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Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (aN6O

I'd like to see the paper trail she has proving that one, even 'illegal zinger' aside.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 01:05 AM (P/kVC)

503 Why people on camera can't come up with the answers you can while sitting at a keyboard.

In one word: Adrenaline.

Have you ever had several cameras staring at you? I don't mean Iphones, I mean broadcast TV cameras with lenses the size of dinner plates. You get an Adrenalin rush from that. I was surprised the first time it happened to me.

Adrenalin seriously reduces your IQ.

Don't think so? OK I'll give you some simple algebra problems to solve while there is a hungry leopard on the stool next to you.




Posted by: An Observation at October 20, 2016 01:06 AM (IBLOg)

504 So that was my day.

https://youtu.be/CHgUN_95UAw (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 01:06 AM (IcT7t)

505 I'd like to see the paper trail she has proving that one, even 'illegal zinger' aside.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 01:05 AM (P/kVC)

He did kind of admit it was true, by saying she should have made it illegal, but she couldn't because she hasn't got anything done in 30 years.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 01:06 AM (6jt6G)

506 As long as Conservatives:

1. Support Open Borders and/or Cheap Labor
2. Support endless handouts and $ saves for Wall Street / Banks
3. Support lots bizarre nation building adventures in the Middle East
4. Support radical Internationalism...and all that means.

Then why vote for them? I mean they can thump that Bible, and read that Constitution all day, and it is basically meaningless, because the country is still on a highway off the cliff.

Conservatism is dead because they are now conserving an America that has already fundamentally changed. Why the heck do I want to conserve that? I want to transform the country to something else. My trouble with the Ted Cruz, Mike Lee (especially Lee more than Cruz), and even Rand Paul is they don't seem to understand that we need a new generation of revolutionaries, not people who are stuck on a system of government that has failed.

The Founding Fathers did a heck of job and created a system that last over 200 years in relative stability (with a few exceptions). The leftists, now aided by a rich internationalist elite, have found a way around it.

In other words the left won. You cannot put it back the way it was, because they will just do it again the same way.

You are going to have to find a way to radically patch up the current system, or create a new system from the ground up that will take another 200 years to be exploited and defeated.

One thing is clear: You cannot do that by doing what Marco Rubio is suggesting, which is proposing that Republicans should not use Wikileaks to attack the Dems. A perfect example of why we lost our country.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 20, 2016 01:07 AM (MuTTO)

507 I think i need to start pretending to be a liberal until I get married just to expand the dating pool.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 19, 2016 11:33 PM (bH+An)

You misspelled "laid."

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 01:09 AM (Idu2i)

508 Posted by: William Eaton at October 20, 2016 01:07 AM (MuTTO)

You're on it. They are now the status quo, which means that we are no longer conservatives. Why would we want to conserve the monstrosity that they've built?

We are now the radicals.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at October 20, 2016 01:10 AM (J+mig)

509 I'm a little worried that the LDS hierarchy is whispering the White Horse Prophecy to the ears of the Utah faithful.

That's the one Orrin Hatch cited in his own (abortive) run for the Presidency. Joseph Smith Jr blathered about the time "the Constitution hangs by a thread". The LDS would then hold the power to save it (like Joe ever much cared for the rule of law himself).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2016 12:45 AM (6FqZa)
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Joe Jr. ran for President in 1844. He didn't survive the campaign.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 20, 2016 01:10 AM (NUqwG)

510 https://youtu.be/CHgUN_95UAw (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 01:06 AM (IcT7t)

Funny, because it is so true.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 01:11 AM (CUYn5)

511 A candidate with conservative principles rooted in sincere beliefs with the visceral glee over cutting a bitch when called for would be unbeatable.
Posted by: Weirddave
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*recalls WFB's handling of Gore Vidal in 1968*

Too bad Mr. Buckley did not enter the political arena (and stay in). He would have gutted, skinned, and butchered someone like Hillary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:11 AM (ysprU)

512 I've been hopelessly in love with Liz Claman since her days at CNBC.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (Idu2i)

Ditto.

Posted by: Deporable Ian Galt at October 20, 2016 01:12 AM (8iiMU)

513 I'd like to see the paper trail she has proving that one, even 'illegal zinger' aside.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 01:05 AM (P/kVC)



He did kind of admit it was true, by saying she should have made it
illegal, but she couldn't because she hasn't got anything done in 30
years.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 20, 2016 01:06 AM (6jt6G)

All imports from China made illegal?

Rolled steel is relatively a raw material compared to the building it goes into to.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 01:16 AM (P/kVC)

514 Oh, gee, the debate was tonight?

Tell me, and be honest:

Did Hillary have a serious medical emergency live on camera?

That's really all that matters. This was the last situation in front of the public over which Hillary does not have complete control. If she didn't pass out or vomit this time, we will never see it.

Posted by: zombie at October 20, 2016 01:17 AM (jBuUi)

515 511

Too bad Mr. Buckley did not enter the political
arena (and stay in). He would have gutted, skinned, and butchered
someone like Hillary.


Posted by: Mike Hammer


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think Buckley had achieved everything he wanted in life at an early age. Successful magazine publisher, DC cocktail circuit regular and the ability to day drink whenever the mood hit. Not mention a loyal and faithful trust fund to keep the show rolling into perpetuity.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at October 20, 2016 01:18 AM (CbGSW)

516 @497.....Al,
Plus 1.

Evenin Horde oh plenty.

For the inebriated... briefly........did The HAIR show up? Or did The DRUNK dominate?

I attended a jam session......I'm just now porch-locked......

cogitationes multitudo of satis

Posted by: Hillbillyking at October 20, 2016 01:19 AM (aMa4G)

517 Anecdotal but I just saw a flaming liberal on my Facebook announce she is no longer voting for Hillary based on the revelation that Hillary was orchestrating violence at Trump rallies. She was a former Bernie supporter.

Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 20, 2016 01:19 AM (bH+An)

518 cogitationes multitudo of satis

Posted by: Hillbillyking
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Damn. They still speak Latin in WV.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:21 AM (ysprU)

519 Too bad Mr. Buckley did not enter the political arena (and stay in). He would have gutted, skinned, and butchered someone like Hillary.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:11 AM (ysprU)

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Not under current circumstances. Heck Academia is training future generations of Americans to dig up Buckley's corpse and behead it for hate crimes.

We are battling a left that has taken over: The media, the entertainment, the academia, and large portions of big corporate America (esp. the hi-tech sector). Worse they are aided by a wealthy internationalist elite who want to create a world without borders, whether average American citizens are k$lled by it or not.

We are not going to rationally debate our way out of this...

Posted by: William Eaton at October 20, 2016 01:21 AM (MuTTO)

520 503 Why people on camera can't come up with the answers you can while sitting at a keyboard.

In one word: Adrenaline.

Have you ever had several cameras staring at you? I don't mean Iphones, I mean broadcast TV cameras with lenses the size of dinner plates. You get an Adrenalin rush from that. I was surprised the first time it happened to me.

Adrenalin seriously reduces your IQ.

Don't think so? OK I'll give you some simple algebra problems to solve while there is a hungry leopard on the stool next to you.

Posted by: An Observation a


I've been on TV a few times. And while I can confirm your statement about the adrenaline rush, it actually starts to wear off after the experience is repeated. After a while, one gets "comfortable" being on camera and you don't get the rush.

Both Trump and Hillary have been on camera a gajillion times each. I think by now they get very little adrenaline rush. It's old hat to them by now.

So, they don't have as much of an excuse as a "TV newbie" would have.

Posted by: zombie at October 20, 2016 01:22 AM (jBuUi)

521 We are not going to rationally debate our way out of this...
Posted by: William Eaton
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Recall that Mr. Buckley threatened violence on Vidal... and he wasn't kidding.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:23 AM (ysprU)

522 I'd like to see the paper trail she has proving that one, even 'illegal zinger' aside.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 01:05 AM (P/kVC)

Buying steel from China is not illegal. It is either Japan or China at this point--we no longer smelt and roll steel in the USA. If you want to build something, even a house, you will need steel, and that steel will come from somewhere else. It is machined here, but it is not produced here. We can't afford to pay union paychecks and compete.

Neither is it illegal to export jobs to Mexico or any other third world shithole, and it is a hell of a lot cheaper if you can control quality and deliverables.

You can bet the Clinton Foundation buys lots of stuff made in China, the Philippeans, Japan, Mexico, Honduras, etc. That isn't illegal, either. But it does make that scrunt a hypocrit. At least Trump made something out of it and hired real people to build with it.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 01:24 AM (cm1Bl)

523 > I've been hopelessly in love with Liz Claman since her days at CNBC.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (Idu2i)

I see Liz as every class' 3rd grade smart girl with glasses, that always had her hand up first, sitting in the first row, in front of the teacher's desk.

I fell in love with that one (in my case named Pamela). Dated her in high school. Loved her until our 40's. Cancer ended that, but all these 20 years later, I still remember that 3rd grade, 4 eyed, cute red headed girl.

Posted by: Trish Regan Fan Club at October 20, 2016 01:24 AM (uyrlv)

524 If she didn't pass out or vomit this time, we will never see it.
Posted by: zombie at October 20, 2016 01:17 AM (jBuUi)

She picked her nose, and her left eye kept sort of wandering. There was some speculation that it wasn't snot but hydraulic fluid....

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 01:26 AM (cm1Bl)

525 We are not going to rationally debate our way out of this...



Posted by: William Eaton at October 20, 2016 01:21 AM (MuTTO)


No we aren't. We are now in the epoch of the Left in America. Where it will lead is all that remains to be seen.

Posted by: #nevertrump at October 20, 2016 01:27 AM (vYaiw)

526 So that was my day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 12:58 AM (CUYn5)

Yeah, driving us crazy and themselves out of business. Telephone, Satellite, Cable, they are driving themselves out of business.

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 20, 2016 01:29 AM (58UGl)

527 It's not a matter of 1 of 2. Hillary just had to not loose and she didn't.

I thought we all said we'd learned our lessons with Romney. Drudge boosting a couple of outliers like the LA times doesn't mean shit. Even the DNC election rigging won't matter. Trump is about to get crushed on the popular vote. They aren't going to need to jack up the vote in key districts.

I'd especially like to thank
1) Marco Rubio: who was elected on the tea party wave with Cruz. Thanks for not getting out when you knew you'd already lost.
2) John Kasich: whom I'd like to gloat I said over a year ago was the real party favorite and the anointed one. Thanks for being an establishment spoiler fucktard I hope enjoy the next century.
3) /pol and /r/the_donald for making this all possible by being massive fucking dick trolls. I have never seen Ace threaten mass bannings before you dicks showed up. Enjoy your lulz from your mom's basement because your won't be getting a job anytime soon.

Posted by: bestie21 at October 20, 2016 01:29 AM (HUeC4)

528 Where it will lead is all that remains to be seen.
Posted by: #nevertrump at October 20, 2016 01:27 AM (vYaiw)

Same place it always does. Leaving behind a third world shithole for those who can survive the purges and the loss of the rule of law.

Buy ammo.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 01:29 AM (cm1Bl)

529 Right. Reagan was very competent at not only debating (his 1 with Carter), but on answering reporters questions.

...oh, and he won 49 states.

And yet, we haven't been able to field ANYONE who can do that since.

But the Dems can do it time after time after time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2016 12:19 AM (cJrMO)

Um, he didn't win 49 states the first time.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 01:29 AM (Idu2i)

530 The Romney thing is about wishful thinking not election rigging.

Posted by: bestie21 at October 20, 2016 01:30 AM (HUeC4)

531 USN 71-79. Managed to "MOON" the Russian fleet from the flight deck of CVA-62 in 73. Sometimes showing your ass is the only appropriate response.

Posted by: saltmarsh at October 20, 2016 01:31 AM (DoHW0)

532 The Royalty does as well Mike......
Google savy too.....the possiblities.......
Am I gonna see ya Sunda?

H/T to the WD . Plus 1 ONT.

Please have mercy. Hair or Drunkl

Posted by: Hillbillyking at October 20, 2016 01:32 AM (aMa4G)

533 There was some speculation that it wasn't snot but hydraulic fluid....

That was me. Still think it was possibly some kind of machine lubricant.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 01:38 AM (IcT7t)

534 Am I gonna see ya Sunda?
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Is there some sort of gathering? I'm a bit south for that. Anyhow, Montani Semper Liberi

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:39 AM (ysprU)

535 Rubio is retarded. We are fighting people who hire people to start riots. Taking the high road is not working. It's time to riot.

Posted by: James at October 20, 2016 01:39 AM (jxw6R)

536 We are fighting people who hire people criminal thugs to start riots.

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Edited

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 01:40 AM (ysprU)

537 Trump is going to crushed in the popular vote without any cheating?

Care to share whatever it is you are smoking?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 01:41 AM (d76uN)

538 Can't watch thiat shit. But I've heard no bitching that Chris Wallace was sucking Hilary's dick? Was he actually a decent moderator?

Posted by: keena at October 20, 2016 01:45 AM (RiTnx)

539 I wasn't able to watch or even follow along in the Comments. Any consensus on who won or lost?

Opinions?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 01:47 AM (d76uN)

540 Can't be all bad I guess. Not many people out there trying to kill morale.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 01:48 AM (d76uN)

541 Well, I had something crazy happen tonight. A surge protector power strip I use for some non-UPS needing things shorted out and blew spectacularly. Heard a big Zoot, saw an arc flash under the desk, and it tripped the breaker.

It took me a while to figure out where an what it was. I was afraid it was the UPS box, but that was working, keeping the computer itself on backup. The network switch was off, since it's on the strip.

Anyway I found it, seeing evidence, in the form of soot coming out of one of the receptacle sockets in the thing.

Just to see, I took it apart. The surge protector thing consists of a circuit board, with some inductor coils and some other shit. One of the other shit components had blown.

I didn't pay it much attention, but it looked like a large ceramic disk capacitor. It may have been something else.

Anyway, it arced and blew. Interestingly it was open after the breaker tripped and killed the arc. That is, no short from the input side, but the output section was dead.

That thing was an APC model, and is about 20 years old.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 01:48 AM (DW+jj)

542 Trump won, but not a knockout

Hillary may have spilt TS info. The time it takes from issue a nuke launch to actual launch.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 01:49 AM (BS8yt)

543 I didn't pay it much attention, but it looked like a large ceramic disk capacitor. It may have been something else.

It served you honorably and well. Sacrificing itself that your computer might live.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 01:50 AM (IcT7t)

544 Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 01:49 AM (BS8yt)

Thanks MAGA. I see you survived your meet up with keepy the klown, aka tim kaine.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 01:52 AM (d76uN)

545 The Bishop there gave permission to repose the Sacred Eucharist there,

OUTSTANDING! Having the Real Presence there is a very sign.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 20, 2016 01:52 AM (brIR5)

546 That thing was an APC model, and is about 20 years old.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 01:48 AM (DW+jj)

Might have been an X2 capacitor, meant to be connected across a line.

Take the surge protector stuff out, rewire it as a straight power bar, and use it as that, where appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 01:52 AM (CUYn5)

547 >> Sacrificing itself that your computer might live.

Actually it wasn't any surge, just a failure of that component. The computer and monitor and my network storage boxes are on the UPS, but this thing powers just about everything else, including the printer.

The UPS has a surge protector (it says it does) on the input section, and that would be the one that protects the computer and monitor.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 01:53 AM (DW+jj)

548

Tell me, and be honest:

Did Hillary have a serious medical emergency live on camera?

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No but after the debate when she left the podium she was walking funny..

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 01:53 AM (BS8yt)

549 I have to believe that Bob Dylan knows what he is doing, fuck those assholes.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 20, 2016 01:54 AM (6Ll1u)

550 Beg Pardon, Good Morning Everyone. I have no proof but it still is a Good Morning.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 01:55 AM (d76uN)

551 I had to take a shower when I got home, I felt sleazy

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 01:55 AM (BS8yt)

552 Might have been an X2 capacitor, meant to be connected across a line.


Could have been a Metal Oxide Varistor (MOV). They've been around for at least 20 years and do look like a ceramic disc cap.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 01:55 AM (IcT7t)

553 If you want to build something, even a house, you
will need steel, and that steel will come from somewhere else. It is
machined here, but it is not produced here. We can't afford to pay union
paychecks and compete.



Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 01:24 AM (cm1Bl)

Not true. There are many integrated mills (integrated = ore to iron to steel to ingot to sheet/plate/whatever) currently operating in the US. The NW Indiana area alone produces 25% of the nation's steel alone.

Granted, the 'cheap' steel (low grade, common alloys) became uncompetitive versus foreign imports, but they moved to higher grade alloys. (These better grades gave the auto makers the ability to offer those 7yr/70k mile warranties, by the way.)


Posted by: Deporable Ian Galt at October 20, 2016 01:56 AM (8iiMU)

554 Biggest winner tonight was Presdent Obona. We all love him and will miss him.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at October 20, 2016 01:57 AM (Ilt5/)

555 Oh, I already got a new one to replace it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 01:58 AM (DW+jj)

556 >> It is either Japan or China at this point

Japan?

China sure, but a whole lot from Vietnam, Malaysia, and some really weird places.

Posted by: JEM at October 20, 2016 01:58 AM (TppKb)

557 The GOP isn't especially conservative now, even if Hillary were to lose, a Trumpified one would be even less so.

Huh?

Putting American sovereignty and the interest of citizens first in America would somehow harm the conservative standing of the GOP?

Ted Cruz can make a new party but handing out soccer balls and Cheetos to invading illegals is not something that is going to attract any real conservative to it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 01:59 AM (zc3Db)

558 No but after the debate when she left the podium she was walking funny..

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 20, 2016 01:53 AM (BS8yt)

She wasn't walking funny, she was just tripping.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 20, 2016 02:00 AM (P/kVC)

559 >> and will miss him.

I suppose suggesting more range time first would probably get me a visit from the Federal Bureau of Ignorance?

Posted by: JEM at October 20, 2016 02:00 AM (TppKb)

560 It may have been an MOV shorting out. That it is a common component, and it would make a direct short across the line input if it failed.

I threw the thing out, it stunk so bad with that acrid fried electronics smell, but I may look at it again come daylight.

The circuit board was fried pretty good, but it was clear "ground zero" was that ceramic disk looking thing.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 02:01 AM (DW+jj)

561 485
I've been hopelessly in love with Liz Claman since her days at CNBC.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at October 20, 2016 12:52 AM (Idu2i)


*Bing image search*

Oh hell yes.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 02:02 AM (sdi6R)

562 How long will take for people to realize that the GOP as a whole has never been a "conservative" party.

Were you force fed a steady diet of how great Lincoln was while you were in school? Even though I was home schooled I got "Lincoln was great" quite a lot.

Read some of his early writings while the man was a nobody lawyakker, he was a freaking socialist.

Coolidge and Reagan were mere blips in the gopE long road to oblivion.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 02:03 AM (d76uN)

563 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 20, 2016 02:07 AM (IcT7t)

564 I didn't pay it much attention, but it looked like a large ceramic disk capacitor. It may have been something else.
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Likely a MOV. They are commonly used in such circuits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 02:09 AM (ysprU)

565 Allahpundit is such a betafag.

How is Trump everything wrong with the culture?

Posted by: Warden at October 20, 2016 02:13 AM (FmCfS)

566 I didn't pay it much attention, but it looked like a large ceramic disk capacitor. It may have been something else.
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Likely a MOV. They are commonly used in such circuits.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Well, since everyone else already said that, I'm changing my opinion, I'm thinking it was cheap Chinese steel that caused it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 02:14 AM (ysprU)

567 Well, since everyone else already said that, I'm changing my opinion, I'm thinking it was cheap Chinese steel that caused it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 02:14 AM (ysprU)

Maybe "green" electricity from windmills. They give sort of little stutter to the waveform every time an eagle gets whacked by the blades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 02:20 AM (CUYn5)

568 Maybe "green" electricity from windmills. They give sort of little stutter to the waveform every time an eagle gets whacked by the blades.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Possible, possible. OTOH, it may have been a butterfly effect, a cascade of perturbations brought on by the sun setting on a solar farm somewhere. Possibly a cloud passing over.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 02:25 AM (ZIFyZ)

569 I passed out fell asleep for a while. Looks like everyone is all commented out.

In other news, I just got notification that my LL Bean order is on the way. Sweatshirts and corduroy pants, and not a moment too soon. It's been like summer the last couple of days here, but the high will be in the 50s on Saturday.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 02:26 AM (sdi6R)

570 G'night folks. Waaay late here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2016 02:26 AM (ZIFyZ)

571 Wish i wasn't diabetic. I would love to grab me a bottle of Metaxa, start pouring shots and not quit till it's empty.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 02:28 AM (d76uN)

572 It was indeed an MOV. I looked up some crap, and found a picture of one in a typical surge protector circuit and it looked just like it.

Also read that MOVs will all eventually fail. Each little clamping surge it experiences (doing its job) degrades it a little. They can fail during a large surge, or they can fail "just sitting there" like this one did.

They get degraded enough to no longer work, and then will eventually short out, I read.

And this being 20 years old would fit this bill exactly.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 02:29 AM (DW+jj)

573 Allahpundit is such a betafag.

How is Trump everything wrong with the culture?

Posted by: Warden at October 20, 2016 02:13 AM (FmCfS)


You must forgive allahpundit his projection. He's got nothing else.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 02:29 AM (zc3Db)

574 lucky me!

going to the Left LA VA for a 'scope tomorrow about lunch time (no food for me) so i'm drinking clear fluids* and intermittently running down the hall.

*(Pro Tip: martinis are a "clear fluid"...)

Posted by: 0 at October 20, 2016 02:30 AM (r3GNW)

575 not sure where my nick, etc, got FUBAR'd...

i blame Jerry Brown.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 02:32 AM (r3GNW)

576 >> Possibly a cloud passing over.

Don't forget the phase of the Moon. That could affect things as well.

I'm sure that crazy girl in the class deriding science for being too Western and white and asking about the science of witch doctors calling in lightning strikes on people might have some theories on why this MOV failed.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at October 20, 2016 02:34 AM (DW+jj)

577 562

Were you force fed a steady diet of how great Lincoln was while you were in school? Even though I was home schooled I got "Lincoln was great" quite a lot.

Read some of his early writings while the man was a nobody lawyakker, he was a freaking socialist.


Yea, and so? Teddy Roosevelt started this whole slide into progressivism mess we have going on, but at the time he was addressing a real problem. Stop judging historical figures by results that have become apparent after they lived. Simple example: Nixon (rightfully) gets shit for establishing the EPA. But at the time, we needed an EPA. Rivers were catching on fire because of polution for God's sake. Lincoln did this country a real service by preserving it, TR was right about trust busting (wrong method), Nixon about the need for an EPA (really wrong method). Each generation confronts the problems at hand, and sometimes the methods used to solve them cause more or different problems down the line. Fortunately succeeding generations have the experience of the wrong solutions to inform their solutions, even if the solution turns out to be eliminating the previous solution.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)

578 Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)

My point being WD, is that the gopE has never really been a "conservative" party. Why the demand for "truConism now? Because the beltway uniparty is threatened?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 02:42 AM (d76uN)

579 577
Yea, and so? Teddy Roosevelt started this whole slide into progressivism mess we have going on, but at the time he was addressing a real problem. Stop judging historical figures by results that have become apparent after they lived. Simple example: Nixon (rightfully) gets shit for establishing the EPA. But at the time, we needed an EPA. Rivers were catching on fire because of polution for God's sake. Lincoln did this country a real service by preserving it, TR was right about trust busting (wrong method), Nixon about the need for an EPA (really wrong method). Each generation confronts the problems at hand, and sometimes the methods used to solve them cause more or different problems down the line. Fortunately succeeding generations have the experience of the wrong solutions to inform their solutions, even if the solution turns out to be eliminating the previous solution.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)


The lesson would seem to be that assuming that moar government is a solution to a problem is *always* wrong.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 02:42 AM (sdi6R)

580 Each generation confronts the problems at hand, and sometimes the methods used to solve them cause more or different problems down the line.

Not sometimes. They ALWAYS cause more problems down the line because whatever the original intentions were the government powers created are always abused in the future. This is the natural entropy of government and is not something that anyone can claim ignorance of. There has never been a government power that was not expanded far beyond its original purpose until it (or something else like it) finally broke the government.

Fortunately succeeding generations have the experience of the wrong solutions to inform their solutions, even if the solution turns out to be eliminating the previous solution.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)


When has eliminating the previous solution ever happened? No. Future generations become bound to these alleged solutions (many of which were never really solutions) until the nation is eventually killed by them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 02:47 AM (zc3Db)

581 Fortunately succeeding generations have the experience of the wrong solutions to inform their solutions, even if the solution turns out to be eliminating the previous solution.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)


Yeah, I'm still looking forward to seeing an example of that ever happening.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 02:52 AM (sdi6R)

582 So the takeaway is:
No human chain rescue goes unpunished.
Italy produces lots of low grade wine and slaps Free sign on it.
Vic drew up plans for the Ark and provided gopher wood at a nominal profit.
Trump won and didn't cough up secret information.
Birthday wishes, better late than a Tomahawk in the back.

Weirddave's here, man!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 20, 2016 02:53 AM (FtrY1)

583 Should of just voted for jeb. I could of been a #neverbusher and joined the Legion of the Banned. Would of been fun to watch all the soreCruzers tell us how great !jebbie! is and why we had to vote for him.

/end sarc

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 02:53 AM (d76uN)

584 in upbeat news, i'd like to thank the Moron/ette who mentioned this gem in the gun thread this weekend...

we got in under the wire.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/rfl-swedcg63matchtargetrifle.aspx

now, to research 6.5mm Swedish match ammo recipes...

/hat tip Jim Sunk New Dawn

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 02:59 AM (r3GNW)

585 Well, there. Went back for the entire calendar year in my e-mail, and notified folks of my land line closure. Still a long list of people/businesses to contact, though.

Anyway, the rack calls. Good night, all of you good people.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2016 03:03 AM (CUYn5)

586 How is Dylan a white male? He was portrayed by a woman in I'm Not There.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2016 03:06 AM (dtWKK)

587 Good night, all of you good people.
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and the rest of us?

what are we, chopped liver?

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 03:07 AM (r3GNW)

588 Anyway, the rack calls. Good night, all of you good people.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Time to hit the rack.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2016 03:07 AM (dtWKK)

589 153 is it possible to stay black out drunk for 2 months straight?
Posted by: Spawn of Mayhem at October 19, 2016 11:24 PM (C+vbB)


Threadwinner!

I'm going to give it the old college* try.






*But not with tequila. I had my fill of that in my old college days.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 03:10 AM (sdi6R)

590 Drudge boosting a couple of outliers like the LA times doesn't mean shit

Hmmm, LA Times, Rasmussen, and IBD; outliers.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 03:13 AM (ngn8T)

591 I'm not about to get into a long philosophical discussion at 3AM, I'm only up this late because I generally try to babysit my ONTs.

And I actually agree with all of what y'all are saying, but Lincoln didn't have the example of China or the USSR or Cuba to know that socialism doesn't work. Even as last as the 17th or 18th century (hell, even today, in small numbers), people were arguing for the divine rights of kings. We know now from experience that the American system of representative democracy with a severely limited central government is the best path to prosperity and general happiness, but back then it was new and we didn't have counter examples of how a competing philosophy (socialism) always fails. It's still not perfect, nothing ever will be. Don't condemn them for not knowing what we know now is all I'm saying.

And Tim, "conservative" in 1860 would have been conserving slavery. No way I'm going to defend that evil. But "conservative" in 2016 means something different. We have a lot more empirical data now. Conservatives want to conserve that which, through trial and error, has been proven to work, to provide the maximum prosperity and happiness to the maximum number of people. That concept is separate from any political party. The purpose of a political party is to maintain power. Very different things.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 03:16 AM (Ga9pP)

592 Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 03:13 AM (ngn8T)

Rassy and LATimes has them tied.

Betting is on Trump though. Vegas has lowered the odds again.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 03:18 AM (d76uN)

593 Now that we know their methods had consequences, why can't we fix them?

Should not be impossible to move the EPA under Interior, for example.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 03:19 AM (ngn8T)

594 >>>B.C. Supreme Court lawsuit claims girl's leg broken when she was struck by a 5 kg wheel of cheddar


They should use soft cheeses like camembert or brie so that if a cheese does get out of control, it wouldn't be able to injure anybody.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2016 03:19 AM (dtWKK)

595 he purpose of a political party is to maintain power. Very different things.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 03:16 AM (Ga9pP)

Which is exactly what I have been saying. In a more simplified way.

Trump is a threat to both parties but mainly the gopE. Which is why there is so much beltway opposition to him.

"truconism" is just a convenient excuse.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 03:23 AM (d76uN)

596 I didn't know Lincoln had socialist tendencies, but I'll bet he wouldn't buy into some of the more bozotic ideas of today's left. Like that we have some kind of moral obligation to let in hordes of (improperly vetted) barbaric pseudo-refugees, who subscribe to an ideology incompatible with our Constitution.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2016 03:25 AM (dtWKK)

597 3 AM Philosophy? Better than most. When you can maintain your position when you are worn out or drunk, you have it nailed.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 03:25 AM (d76uN)

598 I mentioned this bumper sticker in an earlier thread:

https://www.zazzle.com/the+media+is+lying+to+you+gifts

I bought it a number of years ago. I think it was in 2004. Anyway, it just occurred to me last night that I bought two, and the second one has been sitting in my desk drawer all these years. It's going on my car first thing tomorrow morning.

It's an alternative for those who don't want to put a Trump sticker on their car for fear of vandalism. I myself am in that category.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 03:25 AM (sdi6R)

599 Awwwww......

Trump won't pre concede the election. What a shame.

Poor babies. Need some Milk to spill?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 03:36 AM (d76uN)

600 To say that Lincoln was to the left of the government of 1860 does not nearly rise to socialist.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2016 03:37 AM (VdICR)

601 The vapours over that stupid question confuse me, it gives Trump an opportunity to pump the OKeefe videos 24/7.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 03:38 AM (ngn8T)

602 I don't think government in the 1869s had enough economic information to consider socialism.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 03:39 AM (ngn8T)

603 Re: stuck hikers

1000 feet altitude and (presumably) 40is temperatures? Hardly Mount Everest. I think they would've survived til daylight and then been able to find a way down. (Presuming no serious injuries)

Posted by: Moron Labia at October 20, 2016 03:40 AM (Zkjpe)

604 A Jeb-Clinton election is almost as appealing as a Madonna blow job.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2016 03:40 AM (VdICR)

605 Speaking of which, one response to throw back at Hillary when she starts talking about Russians hacking the DNC and Podesta supposedly to help Trump, is that Hillary is exposed to blackmail because the Russians, the Chinese and who knows who has her deleted emails.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 19, 2016 11:39 PM (hA1V+)


To be blackmailed, one must desire to hide some shame about a particular issue in their personal life. "Clinton" and "shame" are two words that never go together.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 03:41 AM (ivfl1)

606 Fortunately succeeding generations have the experience of the wrong solutions to inform their solutions, even if the solution turns out to be eliminating the previous solution.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 02:35 AM (Ga9pP)

Thank you for that.

If Trump eliminates one single federal program while in office, that will be a win for everyone.

If he can trash the democrats while doing that, even better.

A girl can dream.

Let's start with the Department of Education and follow up with the EPA.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 03:43 AM (cm1Bl)

607 To be blackmailed, one must desire to hide some shame about a particular issue in their personal life. "Clinton" and "shame" are two words that never go together.
Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 03:41 AM (ivfl1)

Well, that really depends on what the definition of "is" is.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 03:43 AM (cm1Bl)

608 Vic is USN.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 19, 2016 11:31 PM (LaMci)
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He founded it.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 19, 2016 11:41 PM (cm1Bl)


Nah, Vic was a plank holder in the Phoenician navy.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 03:54 AM (ivfl1)

609 pretty sure Vic was the guy who thought we needed an ocean to begin with...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 04:00 AM (r3GNW)

610 Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2016 03:37 AM (VdICR)

When you advocate that goober'mint should provide for those who can't do it themselves, you are a socialist. Lincoln did so many times over when he was a young lawyer.

As I said, read his writings before he was anywhere near famous. See for yourself, don't rely on me.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:04 AM (d76uN)

611 609 pretty sure Vic was the guy who thought we needed an ocean to begin with...
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 04:00 AM (r3GNW)

I thought he created it after a long night of Valu-rite.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:04 AM (cm1Bl)

612 591
"conservative" in 1860 would have been conserving slavery. No way I'm going to defend that evil.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 03:16 AM (Ga9pP)


And in Europe, "conservative" meant conserving the traditional privileges of the nobility.

In 1860, "liberal" meant supporting individual liberty and economic liberty, aka free-market capitalism.

Today, a "liberal" is a full-bore, no-holds-barred, intolerant fascist.

Maybe it's time to retire the terms "liberal" and "conservative", since they seem to mean very different things to different people.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 20, 2016 04:06 AM (sdi6R)

613 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:08 AM (sWbjH)

614 I thought he created it after a long night of Valu-rite.
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that was after a Cavalry Ball...

Velox et Mortifer!

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 20, 2016 04:09 AM (r3GNW)

615 "Maybe it's time to retire the terms "liberal" and "conservative", since they seem to mean very different things to different people."

Hmmm......

I'm America First but I have Caucasian skin. I guess that makes me a White Nationalist. Do I have to move to Idaho now?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:09 AM (d76uN)

616 When you advocate that goober'mint should provide for those who can't do it themselves, you are a socialist. Lincoln did so many times over when he was a young lawyer.

As I said, read his writings before he was anywhere near famous. See for yourself, don't rely on me.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:04 AM (d76uN)

Whether you like it or not, there are citizens of this country who are physically or mentally incapable of self-preservation. If you think they can rely on private charity, you are mistaken. Those people I do not begrudge one dime of federal and/or state government support.

The number is small, no where near the welfare rolls. My father relates a fellow he knew growing up in the 1930's on a farm in Wyoming. This guy couldn't hold a regular job, couldn't read or write, was not invited to attend school, but he could pitch hay, so he always had some place to work when he needed to. Of course, we no longer have need of guys to pitch hay, so he would probably fit the category of folks who need support.

Welfare, OTOH, should be reserved for those who are honestly in dire straights, and then only for a short time. Having 12 babies out of wedlock should not qualify you for welfare, nor should not bothering to marry your baby daddy. If you have family, you should have to report that support, too.

I think there is fine line between governments' responsibility to its most vulnerable citizens and it's responsibility to its tax payers.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:11 AM (cm1Bl)

617 "conservative" in 1860 would have been conserving slavery. No way I'm going to defend that evil.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 03:16 AM (Ga9pP)


The Civil War was not fought to end slavery; it was only fought to reconstitute the Union - which was a good thing. Lincoln threw out the Emancipation Proclamation as an election ploy and partial war tactic and he, himself, didn't think that blacks would work well in the US and should be repatriated.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:12 AM (zc3Db)

618 Whether you like it or not, there are citizens of this country who are physically or mentally incapable of self-preservation. If you think they can rely on private charity, you are mistaken.

Says who?

Those people I do not begrudge one dime of federal and/or state government support.

The federal government has no business giving one dime. No business, at all.

I think there is fine line between governments' responsibility to its most vulnerable citizens and it's responsibility to its tax payers.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:11 AM (cm1Bl)


There is no fine line on the fact that the federal government is overstepping its powers in any sort of individual welfare scheme. That is a state issue and only a state issue.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:15 AM (zc3Db)

619 Do I have to move to Idaho now?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois

No, but you should. Your a farmer, right. You should at least go see what they're doing between Idaho Falls and Jackson, Wy

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:19 AM (ngn8T)

620 There is no fine line on the fact that the federal government is overstepping its powers in any sort of individual welfare scheme. That is a state issue and only a state issue.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:15 AM (zc3Db)

There is from a position of freedom. If a person becomes, essentially, a ward of the state, then he is also a prisoner thereof. But the truth is that people, unless they are convicted of crimes, are free to move about the country as they see fit.

I would prefer private charity to government charity, but it simply does not exist and I doubt it even could, in any reliable form.

These are people's lives, and they remain a perpetual underclass, no matter who cares for them.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:19 AM (cm1Bl)

621 Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:11 AM (cm1Bl)

That was Lincolns first option. It was never the person's Family, Church, or Friends, it was always the goober'mint that should provide.

Meaning that money should be taken away from people, by force, to provide for others. If that is not socialism, I don't know what is.

Go read Lincoln for yourself. You might be surprised what you will find out about him. You might find out what formed his thinking so that when the time came, he suspended Habeas Corpus, to make sure his political enemies, went and stayed in jail.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:21 AM (d76uN)

622 There's nothing left blackmail Hillary with, unless there's a video of her personally killing Vince Foster.

If she loses this election, it will be a single cumulative moment of accountability that runs contrary to here entire fucking life.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2016 04:22 AM (VdICR)

623 Welfare, OTOH, should be reserved for those who are honestly in dire straights, and then only for a short time.

And how would you propose to carry that out? To deny these people support that you were unable to deny them earlier and just "let them die"? That just puts you back where you were when you first started the whole welfare for people in dire straits, thing. Just because someone refuses to get himself out of dire straits doesn't make much of a difference.

Having 12 babies out of wedlock should not qualify you for welfare,

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:11 AM (cm1Bl)


But you're doling out welfare money to others and you would deny these 12 poor children and watch them starve?

Once you start any of these programs and have it administered by people who are not spending their own money then you can be assured that they will quickly spin out of control. Further, you never put the responsibility for funding bottomless pits of expenditures, powered by sympathetic stories, at the same place in government that money is created at. NEVER.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:22 AM (zc3Db)

624 Lincoln was a fascist, I don't think they had the term yet.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:22 AM (ngn8T)

625 Go read Lincoln for yourself. You might be surprised what you will find out about him. You might find out what formed his thinking so that when the time came, he suspended Habeas Corpus, to make sure his political enemies, went and stayed in jail.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:21 AM (d76uN)

Lincoln was no saint. He did his job admirably. He had quite possibly the worst time as president, and he did good.

His ideas were wonky, and he cut fast and loose with the law from time to time.

Somehow we think we are the worst of the worst or the best of the best, until we read history and find out that people are mostly just people, with the same venial notions running after the same misinformation.

Read Augustine sometime. City of God is too much to start--just read his Confessions. It encapsulates human nature at its best and worst.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:23 AM (cm1Bl)

626 POP -James McPherson I think would beg to differ on your cause of the American Civil War.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:23 AM (sWbjH)

627 Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:19 AM (cm1Bl)

You didn't address my point - any sort of individual welfare is NOT ALLOWED from the federal government. If there is to be government welfare then it is strictly a state issue and each state decides how it will treat the situations. The federal government is not allowed to muck around in these sorts of issues, and for good reason (as I explained in a later comment).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:25 AM (zc3Db)

628 At a minimum, going in the dole should suspend your voting rights. What did Franklin warn: As soon as people realize they can vote themselves someone else es money this Republic is doomed.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:25 AM (ngn8T)

629 But you're doling out welfare money to others and you would deny these 12 poor children and watch them starve?

Once you start any of these programs and have it administered by people who are not spending their own money then you can be assured that they will quickly spin out of control. Further, you never put the responsibility for funding bottomless pits of expenditures, powered by sympathetic stories, at the same place in government that money is created at. NEVER.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:22 AM (zc3Db)

Actually, I think Wisconsin has done pretty well at peeling deadbeats off the dole. Limiting the size of the program is the first step, and then using the iron fist of administering the program as written. Work, or don't, but your benefits run out and that's it.

Reality gets to be a bitch pretty quick, but so far, nobody has starved.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:26 AM (cm1Bl)

630 Fascism is a quite a bit more than rough shod over a basic American right.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:26 AM (sWbjH)

631 A new political party?
The Dems would declare it a terror group and dispatch a reaper drone on us.

Posted by: navybrat at October 20, 2016 04:26 AM (w7KSn)

632 628 At a minimum, going in the dole should suspend your voting rights. What did Franklin warn: As soon as people realize they can vote themselves someone else es money this Republic is doomed.
Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:25 AM (ngn8T)

I have exactly no issue with this.

I also think there should be an income requirement to vote. Produce or no say. But I'm kinda mean.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:27 AM (cm1Bl)

633 630 Fascism is a quite a bit more than rough shod over a basic American right.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:26 AM (sWbjH)

That term gets tossed about quite a bit. Hard to be a fascist without absolute power of some kind. One can certainly have fascist tendencies, but actually carrying it out takes some serious pull.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:28 AM (cm1Bl)

634 St. Paul pointed out to his newly founded churches that those who sat around waiting for the end times and not contributing to the common welfare were also not allowed to eat from the communal trough. I think he understood charity without allowing a professional parasite class.

Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 20, 2016 04:30 AM (cm1Bl)

635 Lincoln's hard stances eliminated the potential of political compromise over tariff and slavery, before he was even inaugurated. 600K casualties as a result of wonky ideas is not doing a good job. He was as racist as the rest of them, so it's not a clear moral issue.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:31 AM (ngn8T)

636 POP -James McPherson I think would beg to differ on your cause of the American Civil War.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:23 AM (sWbjH)


I addressed the goal of the Civil War. It was, clearly, to force the South back into the Union - not to preserve the Union but to reconstitute it. I think it was a good thing and there was nothing un-Constitutional about it. But that is what it was about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 20, 2016 04:34 AM (zc3Db)

637 I slept, woke up, checked the thread, now I'm one minute before going back to bed, but I just like to throw one thing out.

Someone above said, basically, that for the very small minority of people who can't fend for themselves (your words, in essence) that private charity can't provide for them.

That's ceding the narrative to the statist. I counter: "Says who?" Private charity does wonderful things for many people, and would do more if the population wasn't indoctrinated that govt is the only option so that they ignore private charity as superfluous.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2016 04:36 AM (Ga9pP)

638 Reality gets to be a bitch pretty quick, but so far, nobody has starved.

As a bonus, the locusts moveon to Illinois and bedevil Tim.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:36 AM (ngn8T)

639 I think it was a good thing and there was nothing un-Constitutional about it. But that is what it was about.

It's easier to define the war as Constitutional if you accept Succession, then it was a duly authorized war by the remaining States.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:40 AM (ngn8T)

640 Only looked quickly at LI for the debate analysis, take it Trump missed opportunities and Hillary lies and nobody catches it or wants to.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:41 AM (sWbjH)

641 18 A little cheezy 80s mood music:

https://youtu.be/VgHW5QSLE3E

I'll see your cheese and raise you some 90s C(r)amp(s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxliZVghE8w

Posted by: bill-o at October 20, 2016 04:42 AM (AWwDY)

642 As a bonus, the locusts moveon to Illinois and bedevil Tim.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:36 AM (ngn8T)

I really never have calculated how many people my small Farm could feed. I know what we grow in the Garden can feed the dozen plus people in my Household. We give away a lot more too.

Locusts? Illinois is closed. Moose out front should of told you.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 04:43 AM (d76uN)

643 Mornin'. Yawn and stretch.

I actually like that Tommy Shaw song. But I've always found Styx to be a guilty pleasure. There's good cheez and bad cheez. Styx is good cheez.

Need moar coffee.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 04:52 AM (WlGX+)

644 Looks like Indian summeris ending tomorrow, only mid 70's today and tomorrow. Its been 85 last two days and I loved it.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 04:52 AM (sWbjH)

645 There's a guy who goes by the handle "LGOPs" on here
sometimes, been a while since I've seen him, always assumed he was one,
kind of a rare mix of letters to chance upon or mean anything else.

Posted by: Oedipus...Fuck you...war! at October 20, 2016 12:13 AM (CXLVd)


I'm here. Just been lurking lately.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 04:54 AM (dynei)

646 Crud buckets. Forgot to go to the Pharmacy yesterday.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 05:09 AM (d76uN)

647 Tim, in Idaho they are doing the furrowless wheat cultivation on alarge scale. The efficiency is amazing.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 05:12 AM (ngn8T)

648 I was a lurker here for a couple of years, but mostly because I never commented anywhere ever so didn't think I could.

Anyway time to go, really hope I'm by myself. The guy who was with me yesterday didn't want to do what I wanted and I'm as positive as could be my way would have been easier and outcome 100% better.

Have a good day horde,

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2016 05:13 AM (sWbjH)

649 MM1 79-87

Posted by: Catwrangler at October 20, 2016 05:16 AM (Lrxq8)

650 USN '73-'77

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2016 05:19 AM (GdBvh)

651 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, October 20, 2016. On this day in 1818 the Convention of 1818 was signed between the United States and England, this settled the Canada-United States border generally along 49th parallel where it is at today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:21 AM (mpXpK)

652 I know Village Idiot's Apprentice, NACL Salt and Navycopjoe all served in the Navy, any other Squids in residence?


Yes, I did my time in the Navy and at sea. GCE up in NC is also and old Navy guy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:22 AM (mpXpK)

653 and I see the hoard is wasting its time engaging in another fruitless debate about the civil war. There should be no debate on the civil war until all the participants do the following:


1. Throw out everything you have ever read or studied in high school and what you have seen on TV.


2. Spend at least two years reading real books from people who were alive then and serious historians who have spent a lifetime researching it.


And no, I will not be drawn into yet another stupid debate about the civil war.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:26 AM (mpXpK)

654 Still pissed about the orders to the Hunley eh Vic.

/s

Posted by: Catwrangler at October 20, 2016 05:30 AM (Lrxq8)

655 Who was debating the Civil War?

I thought I was debating on whiter or not old abe was a socialist.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 05:31 AM (d76uN)

656 Civil war seems to be a contradiction in terms now that I think of it. It makes one think it is a war where people hurl polite niceties at each other.
We need to come up with a more descriptive name. Domestic Internecine Savagery perhaps?

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:34 AM (dynei)

657 Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2016 04:40 AM (ngn8T)

But that brings up the issue of a legal succession being illegally challenged.

Interesting point....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 05:35 AM (Zu3d9)

658 I thought I was debating on whiter or not old abe was a socialist.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 05:31 AM (d76uN)


Man, you're a racist even in your typos. You're a product of your white privilege and institutionalized racism. Maybe now you can understand why #BlackLiesMatter.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:36 AM (ivfl1)

659 Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:34 AM (dynei)

Sounds like the makings of a Monty Python skit...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 05:36 AM (Zu3d9)

660 We need to come up with a more descriptive name. Domestic Internecine Savagery perhaps?

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:34 AM (dynei)


Uncivil War, as are all 'civil' wars.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:37 AM (ivfl1)

661 Sounds like the makings of a Monty Python skit...


I grew up on Monty Python. They twisted my sense of humor at a young age and are responsible for everything that I never became.


Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:40 AM (dynei)

662 Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:36 AM (ivfl1)

I can never spell that word right and I refuse to use any kind of auto correct. I own my typos.

I can live with it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 05:40 AM (d76uN)

663 We haven't had "Indian Summer" here. We have had summer summer. I had to turn my A/C back on. It got up to 87F here yesterday and looking at more of the same today and tomorrow. The warmies are just cackling right now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:43 AM (mpXpK)

664 We haven't had "Indian Summer" here. We have had summer summer. I had to
turn my A/C back on. It got up to 87F here yesterday and looking at
more of the same today and tomorrow. The warmies are just cackling right
now.



Where do you live? The Equator?

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:44 AM (dynei)

665 664 Where do you live? The Equator?


Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:44 AM (dynei)

The equator in SC yesterday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:46 AM (mpXpK)

666 The equator in SC yesterday.


Gotcha.


Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:50 AM (dynei)

667 Idiocy from the WU page this morning for my consitions:


Today is forecast to be Warmer than yesterday.

Today

High 84 | Low 62 °F

20% Chance of Precip.


Yesterday

High 88.7 | Low 60.3 °F

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:51 AM (mpXpK)

668 Must be that new Common Core math.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:53 AM (dynei)

669 I grew up on Monty Python.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:40 AM (dynei)

Some of their stuff was brilliant.

Secret Policeman's Ball is my favorite of their performances....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 05:53 AM (Zu3d9)

670
Today is forecast to be Warmer than yesterday.


Chocolate rations will also increase by the same

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 05:53 AM (8ikIW)

671 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 05:43 AM (mpXpK)

Yesterday, NYC had a high of 85. Today back into the mid 60's, dropping down to a more normal 50's and 40's starting Saturday.

I hate the summer; I like winter. One can always put on layers of clothing when it's cold, but one can only strip down to bare skin when it's hot.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:56 AM (ivfl1)

672 Ye Olde Cheese Shoppe ranks near the top for me.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 05:58 AM (dynei)

673 The Argument is another classic.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 06:01 AM (dynei)

674 but one can only strip down to bare skin when it's hot.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:56 AM (ivfl1)

Yup. I live just west of you and it was unpleasant. I was in White Plains yesterday and it was hot and muggy....in fvcking mid-October.

Can't wait for the first frost.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 06:02 AM (Zu3d9)

675 Just Finished Neptunes Inferno, the Gunslinger chapter about the Washington is intense. A Battleship with radar does the devils work in very short order. Go Navy....

Posted by: The irredeemable garbone at October 20, 2016 06:02 AM (9dH/8)

676 The Argument is another classic.


Posted by: LGoPs

No, it's not.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:02 AM (8ikIW)

677 The Argument had to be the best Python ever. Nothing came close to it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 06:04 AM (d76uN)

678 I can never spell that word right and I refuse to use any kind of auto correct. I own my typos.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 05:40 AM (d76uN)


My typo for 'either' always ends up being 'wither', which SpellCheck never catches.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 06:04 AM (ivfl1)

679 Posted by: The irredeemable garbone at October 20, 2016 06:02 AM (9dH/

Have you read "Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors" by the same author?

Even better!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 06:06 AM (Zu3d9)

680 671 Yesterday, NYC had a high of 85. Today back into the mid 60's, dropping down to a more normal 50's and 40's starting Saturday.



I hate the summer; I like winter. One can always put on layers of
clothing when it's cold, but one can only strip down to bare skin when
it's hot.

Posted by: RickZ at October 20, 2016 05:56 AM (ivfl1)

When I lived in NY I hated the Winter it wasn't the cold. I hated the damned snow and ice and all the extra time it took to get back and forth to work. I hated using a cigarette lighter to heat my key to get it into the door lock. When you are already working 12 hour days all that extra time is crap.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

681 No, it's not.


Yes it is.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 20, 2016 06:08 AM (dynei)

682 No, it's not.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:02 AM (8ikIW)

Yes, it is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2016 06:08 AM (Zu3d9)

683 Okay everyone, I was in a Nyquil coma last night so I need a recap of the debate. Did anyone face-plant or self-immolate?

Haiku, limerick, or blank verse preferred.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:09 AM (EnKk6)

684 neeener neener neener

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

685 When I lived in NY I hated the Winter it wasn't the
cold. I hated the damned snow and ice and all the extra time it took to
get back and forth to work. I hated using a cigarette lighter to heat my
key to get it into the door lock. When you are already working 12 hour
days all that extra time is crap.


Posted by: Vic

Yep. The worst part of winter to me is the driving in it. Though being retired now I can wake up to the sound of snow plows going by, chuckle to myself, then either roll over and go back to sleep or fire up the coffee and the computer.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:10 AM (8ikIW)

686
Okay everyone, I was in a Nyquil coma last night so I need a recap of the debate. Did anyone face-plant or self-immolate?



I didn't watch it, but according to the YaHOOooo news blurble on my computer,

Trump will not accept the results of the elections if he loses!!! He is a bad man!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:12 AM (8ikIW)

687 685 Yep. The worst part of winter to me is the driving
in it. Though being retired now I can wake up to the sound of snow plows
going by, chuckle to myself, then either roll over and go back to sleep
or fire up the coffee and the computer.


Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:10 AM (8ikIW)

Yeah, I love the snow now as long as the refer has plenty of beer and the liquor cabinet is full. I just don't see much snow here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:12 AM (mpXpK)

688 I have some links for the "debate" last night for JJ's thread later this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:13 AM (mpXpK)

689 Yeah, I love the snow now as long as the refer has
plenty of beer and the liquor cabinet is full. I just don't see much
snow here.


Posted by: Vic

Plus coffee in the cupboard, some canned and frozen goods stocked in starting in November. If we have a little notice about a storm, wife gets the makings for soup. stew, chili, or something for the crockpot.

Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:15 AM (8ikIW)

690 686 Trump will not accept the results of the elections if he loses!!! He is a bad man!!!!




Posted by: Bruce at October 20, 2016 06:12 AM (8ikIW)

The headline quote on that at Fox is a big lie and I imagine it is the same everywhere else, because that is not exactly what he said.

He said he would have to wait and see how it came out. That he could not say now that he would just accept it and move on. It depends on how it comes out. He should have just said that if his people note election tapering and fraud he planned on challenging it.


As I have said, Fox never was a "conservative news site, but they are now no better than any of the rest of them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:18 AM (mpXpK)

691 Husband did 25 years in the Navy. He is not sad that he is out before all the PC nonsense with the ratings come down the pipeline.

It was so hot yesterday. I don't mind a little Indian Summer, but yesterday was ridiculous.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at October 20, 2016 06:19 AM (gppsv)

692 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2016 06:19 AM (u82oZ)

693 OK. Even in my alcoholic stupor I couldn't bring myself to watch the "debate." How badly did Teh Donald punch his own dick?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:20 AM (X6fMO)

694 USN. 70-76. Black gang forever

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2016 06:20 AM (LMfHq)

695 And BTW, a lot of that extra time wasn't just driving. You first had to spend a lot of time digging your car out of the parking lot. And woe to yee if you dug out the wrong car.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK)

696 Vic, thanks for the links, commentary, and history. Much appreciated.

If elected, my thankless job is to arrange snow removal for the township roads.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2016 06:22 AM (u82oZ)

697 693 OK. Even in my alcoholic stupor I couldn't bring myself to watch the "debate." How badly did Teh Donald punch his own dick?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:20 AM (X6fMO)
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Donald's dick punches back, then grabs you by the pussy!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:22 AM (EnKk6)

698 Snipes for the win!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2016 06:22 AM (u82oZ)

699 Winter rocks. Back in the Cat in about a month. And back among the nightwalkers

Posted by: NativeNH at October 20, 2016 06:23 AM (LMfHq)

700 My line when I went to CIC was "I put my pantyhose on one leg at a time like every other Ops puke."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2016 06:23 AM (u82oZ)

701 >>>>Okay everyone, I was in a Nyquil coma last night so I need a recap of the debate. Did anyone face-plant or self-immolate?




I didn't watch it, but according to the YaHOOooo news blurble on my computer,

Trump will not accept the results of the elections if he loses!!! He is a bad man!!!!
.
.
.
.That is pretty much my take too. He stands with other great leaders like john kerry and al gore

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:25 AM (iONHu)

702 I didn't see the debate last night, but is it true that Hillary did admit that she wants Heller overturned?

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 20, 2016 06:28 AM (qaWk6)

703 Excellent ONT, Dave.

I did not serve but both mr. creepers did...the first in WWII and the second in VietNam.

They'd be horrified to see what has happened to the country they gave years of their lives for.

'Morning, Horde.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:29 AM (MXDw6)

704 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:20 AM (X6fMO)

According the NY Post he didn't do well and they expect that a Democrat takeover of Congress and the Presidency. Wallace did better than other moderators but still too much time for Clinton and to cover her. She lied through her teeth and was possibly coked up because her nose was running a lot. I didn't watch it; I just read the comments afterwards on here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:30 AM (EnGQE)

705 Remember when Fox asked the Republican candidates if they would support the nominee and they all said yes except Trump?

Apparently lying is the correct move on those questions. At least according to Bush and Kasich.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2016 06:31 AM (ACqhm)

706 But it doesn't make any difference what people voting for Trump need to do. We need to pray (The people that do that) and climb over broken glass if necessary to vote for him and bring at least two other people if they can who will do the same.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:32 AM (EnGQE)

707 "Because God has not given as a spirit of fear, but of love, power and a sound mind."

2 Timothy 1:7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:34 AM (EnGQE)

708 Donald's dick punches back, then grabs you by the pussy!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:22 AM (EnKk6)



I love you, Eris.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:34 AM (X6fMO)

709 I've come to the conclusion that Dems will pull out all the stops on fraud, Hillary will be "elected" and all Hell will break loose.

Looking forward to the third part of that.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:35 AM (MXDw6)

710 705
Remember when Fox asked the Republican candidates if they would support the nominee and they all said yes except Trump?



Apparently lying is the correct move on those questions. At least according to Bush and Kasich.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2016 06:31 AM (ACqhm)

As I recall they only asked Trump and he said he would. later on they may have asked some others but it was never made a big deal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:35 AM (mpXpK)

711 I see Iran is going to the hostage $$$ bank again. They are demanding obama pay billions more to secure the release of the Americans still held by them.

Nice job obama!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:36 AM (iONHu)

712 >>>>>Remember when Fox asked the Republican candidates if they would support the nominee and they all said yes except Trump?





Apparently lying is the correct move on those questions. At least according to Bush and Kasich.



Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2016 06:31 AM (ACqhm)

As I
recall they only asked Trump and he said he would. later on they may
have asked some others but it was never made a big deal.
.
.
.
.And jeb! never signed the agreement, but everyone else did.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:37 AM (iONHu)

713 "He should have just said that if his people note election tapering and fraud he planned on challenging it. "

The big problem with him is that we can all think of what he "should have" said - and didn't. Hillary has multiple targets on her back and he was standing there throwing wild pitches. some hit, many went way off the mark.

I'm frustrated, not just because he's a poor debater, but because he didn't work harder at being a better one.

He hit many more of his marks during the second debate, perhaps because he actually listened to what Farage told him. It looked like he went back to flailing last night and the only reason he might have pulled it off - or at least not damaged himself greatly - was because Cankles is such a rotten person.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at October 20, 2016 06:38 AM (P8951)

714 And my suggestion is that people consider staying off the internet and TV for several days leading up to the election. I hope that I can be on the wagon enough to do that myself The NY post expects the tone to get increasingly nasty between now and then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:38 AM (EnGQE)

715 714
And my suggestion is that people consider staying off the internet and
TV for several days leading up to the election. I hope that I can be on
the wagon enough to do that myself The NY post expects the tone to get
increasingly nasty between now and then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:38 AM (EnGQE)

According to Fox it could not have got much more nasty than that "debate".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

716 And my suggestion is that people consider staying off the internet and TV for several days leading up to the election. I hope that I can be on the wagon enough to do that myself The NY post expects the tone to get increasingly nasty between now and then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:38 AM (EnGQE)


As I said yesterday, I've already prepared myself, mentally, for a Scankles win. On election night, I'm just going to go to bed early, then wake up in the morning to turn on the radio and hear the results.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:42 AM (X6fMO)

717 The NY post expects the tone to get increasingly nasty between now and then.
====================

It's the Canadians. I saw last night on an Indians board a bunch of anti-Trump stuff, but the writers all seemed to be from Toronto. They were mad, and taking it out on Trump.

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2016 06:43 AM (w/exv)

718 The bank making the loan on my new house is fast-tracking it. I get the feeling they want it done before the election. Though they told me "November 20-30" they instructed my insurance company to have the policy ready by November 11 "and possibly sooner".

Prudential agent told me to take the money out NOW, which I did. Looks like everyone's nervous.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:44 AM (MXDw6)

719 Vic, I was reading through a book of old photos last night and one was of a street in Summerville, SC, around 1900 or so. Is it still a nice place today?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)

720 711 I see Iran is going to the hostage $$$ bank again. They are demanding obama pay billions more to secure the release of the Americans still held by them.

Nice job obama!
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:36 AM (iONHu)
----
Vic, remember when Jefferson refused to pay tribute?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:45 AM (EnKk6)

721 I watched the debate, and thought Trump did well. I didn't see much flailing at all.

But Hillary DID show herself to be a rotten person, loudly and proudly.

She seems to relish it. A truly horrendous creature, Hillary.

An aside...when Hillary was talking about how great it is that women can tear out their babies up to the time of natural birth, I wondered: if they are that close to delivery, and the mother's health* is at risk, why not just deliver the child? You know...instead of ripping it apart and pulling it out, bit by bit.

Oh, I know...because it is HER body and sacred and choice and such.

*Mother's health can include 'mental distress'.

Posted by: lizabth at October 20, 2016 06:46 AM (p0fBx)

722 I'll probably follow my routine from the last few elections. Stay away from the internet, TV and talk radio for several days leading up to Election Day. Vote early, before work, as soon as the polls open.

And if Hellary wins, I'll go down to occasional, very selective internet, TV and talk radio only for...I don't know how long this time. After Obama's first win I couldn't come back all the way till after the inauguration.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 06:46 AM (WlGX+)

723 After checking a few sites this morning looking for the latest on the hacked emails I see the left has settled on a "everything released by wikileaks if fake" meme. It seems they have received their marching orders.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)

724 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 06:46 AM (WlGX+)


Sounds like a good approach!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:49 AM (EnGQE)

725 719
Vic, I was reading through a book of old photos last night and one was
of a street in Summerville, SC, around 1900 or so. Is it still a nice
place today?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:44 AM (X6fMO)

Summerville is a bedroom community of Charleston now. I have heard it is nice but it is where everyone who wants to live around Charleston is moving now. Property values are going up. Expect home costs anywhere from $200,000 to $300,000 for the average size house.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 06:50 AM (mpXpK)

726 Well, if Hillary gets in, the Bill of Rights is likely to be abandoned, just like Article I got kicked aside under Obama (who thinks the Constitution starts with Art. II).

Obviously this won't be good for anyone, including (and maybe especially) the progressives.

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2016 06:50 AM (w/exv)

727 Gonna hide out on my hill in the middle of nowhere and watch the fireworks. Maybe we should all subscribe to the libs' theory..."I got mine. The hell with the rest of you."

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:51 AM (MXDw6)

728 I did not listen to the debate (tv was on, but no sound).

I have no idea who won but I'm gonna pretend it was Trump.

Gonna do what MPPP says on Nov.8 too.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 20, 2016 06:51 AM (Om16U)

729 As I said yesterday, I've already prepared myself, mentally, for a Scankles win. On election night, I'm just going to go to bed early, then wake up in the morning to turn on the radio and hear the results.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:42 AM (X6fMO)
----
I think this is what I'm going to do.

I have no control over what others do or say, I only have control over my reaction (barely!). So I will deal with the situation with my own brand of optimistic resignation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:52 AM (EnKk6)

730 When asked whether or not he'd accept the results of the elections and after Scankles sanctimonious response, Trump should have said he had at least 342 reasons to be sceptical.

Good morning everyone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 20, 2016 06:52 AM (+DiO8)

731 I see the left has settled on a "everything released by wikileaks if fake" meme. It seems they have received their marching orders.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 06:49 AM (iONHu)
====================

Someone forgot to tell Hellery. She confirmed the accuracy of a speech quote last night, but argued context was important.

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2016 06:53 AM (w/exv)

732 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:49 AM (EnGQE)

I found myself turning to the "comfort food" side of the media, such as Hannity, who's radio show I normally don't listen to. But his show became one of my go-to "comfort-foods" between Obummer's election and coronation. And there's a local rightie radio guy I was able to listen to during that period. And, of course, this place. Probably more than any of the others: this place.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 06:53 AM (WlGX+)

733 Stuck in a cab. Long story.
Morning thread delayed a half hour.

Hang tight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 20, 2016 06:53 AM (2q4Cr)

734 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 06:52 AM (EnKk6)

I like that phrase-optimistic resignation. No wonder you're a writer. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:54 AM (EnGQE)

735 "Stuck in a cab."

At this hour? Should be an interesting story.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:55 AM (MXDw6)

736 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:38 AM (EnGQE)

I suggest taking your teevee sets out to your back yard and putting as many .45 ACP holes in as possible.

Clean up might be a bit messy but you'll have some fun.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 06:56 AM (d76uN)

737 Thanks for the update JJ.

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2016 06:56 AM (w/exv)

738 Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 06:56 AM (d76uN)

I don't have a working TV. I can only play DVDs on it and I don't own a gun.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:57 AM (EnGQE)

739 Hannity has never claimed to be a nooz person. Just his opinions on his show. I don't get all the hate directed towards him by self proclaimed conservatives.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 06:57 AM (d76uN)

740 Hay, Tim. Are you up again? Or yet?

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (MXDw6)

741 Hillary is what's wrong with the culture, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (iLoHX)

742 Trump was not hurt by last night's debate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (J+eG2)

743 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 06:57 AM (EnGQE)

That's the best way to do it. You control what is shown.

Thumbs up!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (d76uN)

744 Thanks for the Summerville info, Vic. I can't move out of Massachusetts for many a year, but I was just curious if it could be a place I'd want to live.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:59 AM (X6fMO)

745 I watched the debate, I thought he did well. I kind believe they wanted him to tone down last night to help with independents. You could tell he did prep. I think he missed a few opportunities, but overall he made his case that he's not a crazy DB like the media has portrayed him to be. We will find out soon enough if that worked.

Posted by: spypeach at October 20, 2016 06:59 AM (nyYhO)

746 After Obama's reelection, Warden wrote a piece here that should be re-posted should Hellary win. It's brilliant, it brought me great peace of mind, and it's as true today as the day he wrote it. I printed this out at the time, re-read it often, and thanked him for writing this. Remember: Do NOT comment on an old thread! Auto-banhammer.

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=335824

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 07:00 AM (WlGX+)

747 Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (MXDw6)

I'm up. Allegedly.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 07:02 AM (d76uN)

748 Thanks for the summary, Spypeach. I casually scrolled through the debate thread comments and it was all !vaginaaaazzzz! and DRINK!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 07:02 AM (EnKk6)

749 744
Thanks for the Summerville info, Vic. I can't move out of Massachusetts
for many a year, but I was just curious if it could be a place I'd want
to live.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 06:59 AM (X6fMO)

If I were moving to SC I would prefer up in the NW corner in the mountains where it is cooler and less hectic traffic than down around the beach. But property values there are high too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 07:02 AM (mpXpK)

750 http://minx.cc:1080/?post=335824
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 07:00 AM (WlGX+)

Thanks; I'll look for it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2016 07:04 AM (EnGQE)

751 vaginaaaazzzz! and DRINK!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Imperatrix Siculus at October 20, 2016 07:02 AM (EnKk6)

haha, that's so unlike the 'horde, Donald must be having a bad influence on them /sarc

Posted by: spypeach at October 20, 2016 07:04 AM (nyYhO)

752 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 07:00 AM (WlGX+)
========================

Thanks for that

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2016 07:06 AM (w/exv)

753 Does anybody know how accurate Luntz's Dunces have been in past elections? 'Cause Trump won (narrowly) according to them. (They overwhelming thought he won the second one.)

Just wondering if they really are a good barometer of what the average LIV thinks.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at October 20, 2016 07:06 AM (P8951)

754 >>>>Trump was not hurt by last night's debate.
.
.
.
.The Luntz (a leftish leaning group) group says Trump won by a narrow margin.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 07:07 AM (iONHu)

755 While we are waiting on JJ:


Fox's take on the non-debate. Sounds like Trump didn't let her get away with shit. And he called out the MFM; good.


http://fxn.ws/2eTsxY6





And they give 9 things talked about. Fox calls the Project Veritas tape that shows the Scankles campaign guy saying they paid for riot instigators at Trump's campaign as an "edited video". Fox is getting just as bad as the rest of the MFM. No author is listed for this article.


http://fxn.ws/2e9VcJx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)

756 Lincoln threw out the Emancipation Proclamation as an election ploy and partial war tactic and he, himself, didn't think that blacks would work well in the US and should be repatriated.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Would #BLM agree with him now? They don't seem very happy to be here.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2016 07:08 AM (dtWKK)

757 Excerpt from Warden's "Where Do We Go From Here" - possibly the single greatest post I've ever read at AoS.

But do read the entire piece.


Here's something I want you to internalize: All that anger, turmoil and hopelessness you're experiencing comes from a feeling of helplessness.

But that's all it is-a feeling. You're not helpless at all. You only think you are.

Here's how I know:

Winners win.

At the heart of every conservative's worldview is this simple truth. You-not your lucky rabbit's foot, not some cosmic lottery, not your circumstances, your parents, your race, gender, or disability-YOU determine the life you live.

Belief in self-determination is at the very foundation of our ideology. It is why conservatives champion liberty and personal responsibility while rejecting collective guilt, class envy, tribalism and victim-hood. It's what defines us. It's what we believe and it's who we are.

And so I say to you, so what if we lost this election? Fuck your poor-me-ism and fuck mine too.

Winners win. Losers lose.

And you're a winner.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 20, 2016 07:09 AM (WlGX+)

758 If one more person talks about how there is no widespread voter fraud on my facebook page, I may have to go off. It doesn't take "widespread" fraud to throw an election. It takes targeted fraud, which is exactly what Clinton operatives have admitted to on tape.

Posted by: no good deed at October 20, 2016 07:11 AM (/O5Ax)

759 Has anyone seen polling lately on who people think will actually win the election?

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 20, 2016 07:12 AM (otvCR)

760 Posted by: Czar Peter at October 20, 2016 07:12 AM (otvCR)

The Vegas odds are in Trumps favor. Something like 65% of all money bet on the election has been bet on Trump to win.

FWIW

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 20, 2016 07:15 AM (d76uN)

761 742
Trump was not hurt by last night's debate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 20, 2016 06:58 AM (J+eG2)
*** I hope you're right about this. From what I've read it was no worse than the previous debates.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 07:15 AM (MXDw6)

762 758
If one more person talks about how there is no widespread voter fraud on
my facebook page, I may have to go off. It doesn't take "widespread"
fraud to throw an election. It takes targeted fraud, which is exactly
what Clinton operatives have admitted to on tape.

Posted by: no good deed at October 20, 2016 07:11 AM (/O5Ax)

Link from yesterday
An election expert says there are 4 million ineligible or dead voters on
the rolls in the US. Per the "compromise" made by the motor voter law
these voters rolls were supposed to be purged every 4 years but that
never occurs in heavy Democrat districts. The law should be repealed
since the Democrats are not following their end of the bargain.


http://bit.ly/2dlaEB9

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 07:15 AM (mpXpK)

763 >>>Has anyone seen polling lately on who people think will actually win the election?
.
.
.IBD the most accurate pollster from 2012 and 2008 has Trump winning by 1 and the 2nd most accurate pollster from 2012 LA Times tracker which used to be the RAND poll has the race as a tie.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 20, 2016 07:16 AM (iONHu)

764 It's the Canadians. I saw last night on an Indians board a bunch of anti-Trump stuff, but the writers all seemed to be from Toronto. They were mad, and taking it out on Trump.
Posted by: MTF


I'm not saying it's the Canadians...but it's the Canadians.

Bacon-backs, with all that sticky maple syrup.

And hockey. Soccer on ice.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 20, 2016 07:18 AM (S6Pax)

765 Based on what I have been seeing from the critical State polls it is a toss-up now. It shouldn't be, but you have one man against the entire political establishment for the whole country plus all the MFM combined.


When you throw in the FSA and the vote fraud it is a tough row to hoe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 07:19 AM (mpXpK)

766 I was holding off on this until J.J. got here, but:

If you feel like raising a tot of rum and snarling "Aaaarrrr!" the night of October 20, 1720 was when the pirate captain "Calico Jack" Rackham was captured in Dry Harbour Bay, Jamaica.

Rackham - who got his nickname from the clothing he habitually wore - was famous not so much for his piratical feats, but because he happened to have among his crew two female pirates, Anne Bonny and Mary Read. During the battle with the British, both fought like banshees - Read even shooting one of Rackham's men for being a coward - but the pirate captain hid below decks during the fight and his ship was easily overrun.

Rackham swung from a noose on November 18, 1720. Both Read and Bonny 'pled their bellies' - that is, asserted they were pregnant - and escaped the hangman, Bonny dismissing her captain and sometime lover with the curt, "If he had fought like a man, he need not have been hanged like a dog."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 07:20 AM (X6fMO)

767 Vic, I can't help but wonder if FOX hasn't been "allowed" to exist as a sort of counterpoint to the alphabets in order to give some semblance of credibility to the fourth estate. But things are now so crucial and the election so close that they can't allow this any longer.

Nothing we are witnessing is exactly what we see. There are so many layers of deception at work in this election it would be impossible to divine the truth.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 07:20 AM (MXDw6)

768 Now begins CNN and Etc.'s pounding of the Narrative until Accepted Wisdom is that Hillary looked like an angel last night, and Trump looked like Hitler eating live kittens.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2016 07:22 AM (iLoHX)

769 Aha! Nood. Thanks, J. J.

Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 07:22 AM (MXDw6)

770 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 20, 2016 07:20 AM (X6fMO)

Just another example of 'leading from behind'.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 20, 2016 07:23 AM (+DiO8)

771 If you're very, very stupid, it's not boring to be predictable. It's comforting.

Posted by: Amos at October 20, 2016 07:24 AM (I/NYG)

772 767
Vic, I can't help but wonder if FOX hasn't been "allowed" to exist as a
sort of counterpoint to the alphabets in order to give some semblance of
credibility to the fourth estate. But things are now so crucial and the
election so close that they can't allow this any longer.

Nothing
we are witnessing is exactly what we see. There are so many layers of
deception at work in this election it would be impossible to divine the
truth.


Posted by: creeper, the deplorable at October 20, 2016 07:20 AM (MXDw6)

They have never been "conservative". But years ago when they first started they were only slightly left of center. But as the years went by the moved further and further left. When Ailes left they just gave up and became part of the alphabets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 20, 2016 07:25 AM (mpXpK)

773 I watched as much as I could stomach. That freaking smile of Hillary's got to be too much. My 22 yr old daughter sent me a text that read "she scares me".

Posted by: Molly k. at October 20, 2016 07:25 AM (B15oO)

774 Plankowner, Ike (CVN 69)

Posted by: sherlockzz at October 20, 2016 07:43 AM (uBsvC)

775 Allahpundit quote comes from here: http://bit.ly/2ewYlyL (not Allahpundit)

Posted by: Original Roy at October 20, 2016 08:05 AM (fASYn)

776 Don't get 911 nostalgia, the leftists were faking

Posted by: JoshO at October 20, 2016 09:11 AM (0dDXW)

777 Navy Veteran here, 22 years active service. Retired FCCS(SW/AW), originally a Data Systems Technician (DS).

Currently a contractor supporting ships on the East Coast and Europe. In Rota, Spain this week and next helping USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) get ready for anything.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 20, 2016 11:18 AM (tapYd)

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