Thread below the Gardening Thread: Halloween in Academia [KT]

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Think Disney villains are the scariest things in the Magic Kingdom? Not according to a scholarly report from last year. Is it possible that the kind of stereotypical language in the paper quoted below had anything to do with this familiar Halloween costume debacle?

We posit that Disney's pedagogies of pleasure, which operate from the notion that escape is attainable via the pleasurable experiences offered at Disney parks, teach us how to be particular kinds of Disney subjects who escape into safe and controlled forms of pleasure - these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.

Looks like Halloween parties will be either (1) somber and reflective or (2) psychologically dangerous affairs on many campuses again this year. Have you ever met anyone who needed counseling after seeing a Halloween costume that perpetuates a stereotype?

Zoos are also centers of hegemonic pedagogies: Here is a horrifying example in which a boy learns that alligators have very sharp teeth. I am confident that a mother would NEVER teach her daughter that both humans and alligators have teeth, but that alligators have sharper teeth. And only male humans go "snap, snap". It's a hegemonic norm. Heh.

O.K., Twitter has some definite drawbacks. Do you consider the New Real Peer Review Twitter feed to be a good way to bring absurd peer-reviewed papers into public consciousness?

Are there any effective ways to counter the forecast that there is no end in sight for academia's leftward drift?

. . . a professoriate that shares many of the same moral and political assumptions will be less likely to scrutinize agreeable findings, less likely to pursue potentially disconfirming lines of inquiry, and ultimately produce a body of scholarship that is both less accurate and less relevant to the public it serves.

Ya think?

BTW, The mob with their pitchforks and torches is converging on Johns Hopkins. The current catechism of "sacred truths about gender, sexuality, and sexual orientation" must be repeated by the university's administration! Gender reassignment surgery MUST be promoted as the best way to treat transgender individuals! Who cares about the suicides?
(H/T Maggie's Farm)

I tried to think of a good analogy to the mob scene from Young Frankenstein, but it made the bolts in my neck hurt. Happy Halloween.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:32 AM

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1 Circus.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 11:34 AM (nIGPZ)

2 Live link for DT Gettysburg Address

Pence speaking now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkzNIA_e1c

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 11:35 AM (nyYhO)

3 professors like getting their young coeds in bed, and lording over them. The sickos in academia love their make believe world, and a little tyranny to keep their status will be fine with them ... till they are confronted more directly.

the internet is already exposing them, but Hitlery might put a stop to all "wrong thinking" since those wrong ideas are not protected speech.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2016 11:36 AM (O2rG1)

4 Not first. But ok.

Posted by: RI Red at October 22, 2016 11:37 AM (mbf8y)

5 Going to a Disney Theme Park is a waste of time and a whole lot of money. Everything in them cost ten times what it should normally. The most expensive meal I have ever eaten was at a restaurant at Disney World in Orlando.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 22, 2016 11:39 AM (mpXpK)

6 Can only love that now Humanism is tarred with the "racist" brush that humanists so freely wielded against believers.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 22, 2016 11:39 AM (GDulk)

7 I tried to think of a good analogy to the mob scene from Young Frankenstein, but it made the bolts in my neck hurt.

More like a mob scene using the "dancers" from the French Mistake.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at October 22, 2016 11:40 AM (vyqqu)

8 We posit...

Fatally flawed, right off the bat.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 11:40 AM (Tyii7)

9 I think I will be going to the Hallowe'en party this year dressed as Emmanuel Swedenborg.

I believe Soren Kirkegaard is already taken

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2016 11:41 AM (lPUaT)

10 Fire bad!

Me triggered. Where me safe space?

Posted by: Frankenstein's monster at October 22, 2016 11:41 AM (X/Cr2)

11 Insomniac, I know you're here. Don't try to hide.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:41 AM (DoQtB)

12 11 Insomniac, I know you're here. Don't try to hide.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:41 AM (DoQtB)

*ducks behind stuffed mushroom*

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:42 AM (ywNoU)

13 Hey, that's what I wore to our church's covered dish orgy last weekend!

Honestly, don't these folks understand archetypes? It's an ancient need to push back at the night and embrace the strange and unknowable (literally, at some of the parties I've attended).

The war on fun is never-ending and we can never let our guard down, folks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 11:43 AM (EnKk6)

14 Heh. That's our boy. What are you doing with the kids today? Don't forget to ask someone to take a picture of all of you.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:43 AM (DoQtB)

15 >>>*ducks behind stuffed mushroom*
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:42 AM (ywNoU)<<<

Don't eat it. You'll grow real big, and she'll see you.

Posted by: Mario at October 22, 2016 11:43 AM (X/Cr2)

16 "Not according to a scholarly report from last year."

Just because a bunch of over-schooled naval-gazers form, and then publish something they call a journal, doesn't make it scholarly.

Scholars do studies. Even when they do them badly, they're still subject to the confines of the data. A bunch of nitwits sitting around and reading stuff, examining in and "positing" their mindthoughts does NOT make it scholarly.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 11:43 AM (Pz4pT)

17 I was thinking doing a Katharina von Bora costume, but then I thought someone might mistake me for being a Lutheran. I think maybe I'll just put on a mid-length skirt and grab a snake instead.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 11:44 AM (bpfzP)

18 So Eris, I know the food thread isn't til tomorrow, but have you found any weird food items to share with us yet?

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:45 AM (DoQtB)

19 I haven't been on Twitter in months, but mistakenly clicked on an email notification of someone I follow and I read their latest Tweet. Apparently, I am a white nationalist (elitist way of saying Nazi, I guess) I'm not a NeverTrumper, and they

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 11:45 AM (uaHyk)

20 Grammie, I was kind of picturing you and the Rev dressing up as Sonny and Cher, or something along those lines.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:46 AM (DoQtB)

21 ...would find my future support of their causes abhorrent in the extreme. Good to know.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 11:46 AM (uaHyk)

22 The five-minute Trump video in the sidebar is incredibly powerful. I don't know if it's from a single speech or a compilation of quotes from various speeches.

As he said last night in Newtown, PA, "Either we win this election or we lose the country."

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:47 AM (sdi6R)

23 Gem, it's always nice to find out about yourself from someone who doesn't know you, isn't it?

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:48 AM (DoQtB)

24 Repeating my bleg. Please push back against the lying Dem commercial with Matt Shepherds mother.

I don't know if it is only a CO market ad but Hillary has the mother of Matt Shepherd with the hate crime lie and now smearing all Trump supporters as well as the state of WY again. A bleg to refute that vile commercial on twitter, FB, any social media you are on. You can do a web search for Matt Shepherd meth dealer to get links to the facts. ClashDaily.com had a good active link that I used.

If we don't push back against these lies the MFM arm of the DNC will never straighten up.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 22, 2016 11:49 AM (Jen0I)

25
Grammie, I was kind of picturing you and the Rev dressing up as Sonny and Cher, or something along those lines.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:46 AM (DoQtB)
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Oh my gosh - that's brilliant! I even have a furry vest! I'd have to find Rev some hair, though. Hmmmm.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 11:49 AM (bpfzP)

26 I haven't got around to deleting that shitshow, but a purge is obviously necessary.

Hmm. My tablet is acting up. NSA probably reset it.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 11:50 AM (uaHyk)

27 18 So Eris, I know the food thread isn't til tomorrow, but have you found any weird food items to share with us yet?

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:45 AM (DoQtB)
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I'm tapped out, but I'll be hitting the RenFest tomorrow so it's all about the food-on-a-stick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (EnKk6)

28 Do it, grammie.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (DoQtB)

29 14 Heh. That's our boy. What are you doing with the kids today? Don't forget to ask someone to take a picture of all of you.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:43 AM (DoQtB)

Oh, it's all very top secret. But big plans. Big, yuuuge plans. Really terrific.

You're not buying this, I can tell...

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (ywNoU)

30 If we don't push back against these lies the MFM arm of the DNC will never straighten up.

The later will never happen but the former is a necessity.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (Tyii7)

31 Fire bad!

Me triggered. Where me safe space?

Posted by: Frankenstein's monster at October 22, 2016 11:41 AM (X/Cr2)

Have a cigar...and an expresso.

Posted by: BignJames at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (+q52R)

32 Zoos are also centers of hegemonic pedagogies:

******

Heh. Over coffee this morning Missus Muldoon and I were discussing the folks we share a workspace with. She compared the place to a zoo. So far we have identified a hippo, an emu, an angry sloth, two hyenas and a groundhog (dubbed Punxatawney Chuck)**.

**Maybe we should call him ground chuck

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM (wPiJc)

33 ugh...latter

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 11:52 AM (Tyii7)

34 a scholarly report from last year.

Not everybody is cut out for the real world. By all means, stay in school and get your PhD in Twaddle. A career in academia/government awaits.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2016 11:52 AM (HwVbl)

35 23 Gem, it's always nice to find out about yourself from someone who doesn't know you, isn't it?

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:48 AM (DoQtB)

Yeah, it was kind of a shock. Had not realized how bad it has gotten, and the lines that have been drawn. Like, whoa.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 11:53 AM (uaHyk)

36 The phrase "Bias Education and Response Team" doesn't sound Orwellian in the least!

A bunch of those college kids should tie on red neckerchiefs, bang on drums, and go as Red Guard youths.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 11:55 AM (EnKk6)

37
You're not buying this, I can tell...
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM
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Nope, no sale. You don't need big plans, just plans, preferably out-of-the-house plans. I love Moki's idea of seeing if a local church or some place has a harvest fest. Or just a pumpkin cake lace or a playground would be great. It will be good for your soul and theirs.

Now get your ass in gear.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:55 AM (DoQtB)

38 these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.

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I knew something was missing but I didn't know what it was! Disavowal of racism and white supremacy! That's what we need!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 22, 2016 11:55 AM (Nwg0u)

39 Cake lace - I have no idea. Place.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (DoQtB)

40 By all means, stay in school and get your PhD in Twaddle. A career in academia/government awaits.

These ivory tower pencil necks are scared shitless that the gub'mint grants will dry up if the election doesn't go their way.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (Tyii7)

41 Are there any effective ways to counter the forecast that there is no end in sight for academia's leftward drift?

***

Eventually reality will provide a hard stop. Prolly not in my lifetime though.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)

42 Not everybody is cut out for the real world. By all means, stay in school and get your PhD in Twaddle. A career in academia/government awaits.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2016 11:52 AM (HwVbl)

I looked up the little broad who published this garbage. Two minutes of reading the abstract of her article, then looking over a couple bios, along with tiny, likely out-of-date photos... I'm pretty sure I know her whole life story.

Yeah, she's fairly harmless. Keep her in the confines of worthless, pointless "education."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

43
Eventually reality will provide a hard stop. Prolly not in my lifetime though.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)
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I really hope you're wrong about the time frame.

(That's much nicer than saying I hope you're really, really old.)

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:59 AM (DoQtB)

44 The phrase "Bias Education and Response Team" doesn't sound Orwellian in the least!

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They pay you to find bias in education? Hot dog!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 22, 2016 12:00 PM (Nwg0u)

45 By all means, stay in school and get your PhD in Twaddle. A career in academia/government awaits.
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These ivory tower pencil necks are scared shitless that the gub'mint grants will dry up if the election doesn't go their way.
Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (Tyii7)

As they say, a degree from THE Arizona State U., School of Social Transformation, and a nice apron will get you a job making beverages at Starbucks.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:00 PM (Pz4pT)

46
these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.

Thats why I always hated the Its a small world ride.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 22, 2016 12:00 PM (lKyWE)

47 Wait, I thought Arizona State was THE party school. When did it transform into the Party School?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 12:01 PM (EnKk6)

48 Eventually reality will provide a hard stop. Prolly not in my lifetime though.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)
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I really hope you're wrong about the time frame.

(That's much nicer than saying I hope you're really, really old.)
Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:59 AM (DoQtB)

Or saying I hope you get hit by a bus soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:01 PM (Pz4pT)

49 >>>Cake lace
Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 11:56 AM (DoQtB)<<<

That's going to be part of our new line!

Posted by: Lace Wigs at October 22, 2016 12:01 PM (X/Cr2)

50 That's much nicer than saying I hope you're really, really old.

*****

I'm at an age where I've started buying my Centrum Silver in the six-count blister pack rather than the bottle of 100. Just out of fiscal prudence.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

51 Here's the way I see it unfolding:

With the skewed polls showing Hillary winning and the constant drumbeat of "Russian hacking", I believe they are setting the stage for declaring the election null and void if Trump wins.

I mean, how could a Trump win be legitimate when all the polls show Hillary winning? The election was obviously hacked. We need a do-over. We can't have the Russians choosing our President, can we?

But if Hillary wins and Trump cries foul, then the line will be that Trump and his supporters are dangerous demagogues who are undermining our electoral process. Vote fraud is just a right-wing myth. You can't prove anything. He should concede like a good little Republican.

Those of us who pay attention already know how pervasive Democrat vote fraud is. The Republicans never seriously challenge it. Trump will. This year, I can totally see the GOPe colluding with the Democrats to deny Trump a victory.

I expect violence one way or another no matter how this election turns out. Back in 2000, neither party had any organized street muscle. Now the Democrats have BLM all stood up and waiting for the 'go' signal. If Trump wins, I expect riots nationwide. I don't know what will happen if Trump loses and there is a widespread perception that the election was stolen, but it won't be pretty. At that point normal Americans might conclude that it is no longer possible to influence the government at the ballot box. Then all bets are off.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:02 PM (sdi6R)

52 Wish me luck. I've been hiding in my car during warmups but now I must go watch my son's baseball game. It's wicked windy - we have a wind warning with 45-50 mph winds til 5:00, with accompanying warnings about downed power lines and trees. I'm staring at a lot of power lines and trees.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 12:02 PM (DoQtB)

53 Or saying I hope you get hit by a bus soon.

Posted by: BurtTC

***

Cigarettes killed my Uncle Bill
We knew one day they'd get 'im.
He bent over in the street to pick one up
And a bus went by and hit 'im.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 12:03 PM (wPiJc)

54 An interesting thing I noticed while watching the Trump video in the sidebar: I was surprised how good he was.

It was interesting because even though I know the media lies- and lies hard!- they still influence me.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2016 12:03 PM (ysprU)

55 This Halloween, my costume will be "Deranged Pervert." In other words, my usual clothing.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at October 22, 2016 12:04 PM (/f6Nd)

56 And Trump is live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkzNIA_e1c

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:04 PM (sdi6R)

57 Or saying I hope you get hit by a bus soon.

Posted by: BurtTC

***

Cigarettes killed my Uncle Bill

We knew one day they'd get 'im.

He bent over in the street to pick one up

And a bus went by and hit 'im.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 12:03 PM (wPiJc)<<<

One of these days... one of theeeeeseeeee days...

Posted by: Ralph Kramden at October 22, 2016 12:05 PM (X/Cr2)

58 these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.
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Thats why I always hated the Its a small world ride.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 22, 2016 12:00 PM (lKyWE)

If they remade Snow White today... well, she couldn't be called THAT, but the only two dwarfs (and they wouldn't be called THAT) who would remain white males would be Grumpy and Dopey. Doc would be a wise latina. Oh, sorry, a wise LESBIAN latina.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:05 PM (Pz4pT)

59 I'm at an age where I've started buying my Centrum Silver in the six-count blister pack rather than the bottle of 100. Just out of fiscal prudence.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

I guess that makes me an optimist. I buy a year's supply of shampoo.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:07 PM (Pz4pT)

60 Happier topic: I'm going to be a bartender for Halloween. We're having a party, so I'll bring the old bar and stools up from the basement and cobweb them up. I bought a bunch of those colored poison, etc. bottles and jars that I'll fill with real booze, and I'll slick back my hair and do dramatic black eye make-up and black lipstick with a low cut black shirt and a towel over my shoulder and I'll practice chomping gum, wiping the bar, and saying "What'll ya have, buster?"

So it's more like being in character than having a costume, I guess.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 12:08 PM (uaHyk)

61 "I've seen the system up close and personal for years and I know how it is rigged" (paraphrasing)

This is why the establishment is scared shitless of him. He will turn over the rocks and show the nasty slimy wriggling things underneath.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:08 PM (sdi6R)

62 This Halloween, my costume will be "Deranged Pervert." In other words, my usual clothing.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner

*****

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Posted by: Dr. Ruth Vestheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at October 22, 2016 12:09 PM (wPiJc)

63 Obozo releases another 52,000 illegal aliens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 22, 2016 12:09 PM (Nwg0u)

64 Gem we ALL want to know: So how is this different than any other Saturday night?

Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at October 22, 2016 12:10 PM (L3z08)

65 Obozo releases another 52,000 illegal aliens.

Fundamental change proceeds apace.

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at October 22, 2016 12:10 PM (Tyii7)

66 I guess that makes me an optimist. I buy a year's supply of shampoo.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

There may be something to that. Sort of gives you something to live for. You might want to chip in for more than a year's supply though.

Posted by: Dr. Ruth Vestheimer, diminutive sex therapist extraordinaire at October 22, 2016 12:11 PM (wPiJc)

67 sock fail

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 12:12 PM (wPiJc)

68 Back in 2000, neither party had any organized street muscle.

The Florida GOP found some, and stopped at least one (admittedly likely bogus) recount. It didn't help that Jorge Arbusto's brother was running the state.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 12:12 PM (6FqZa)

69 Didn't hurt I mean

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 12:13 PM (6FqZa)

70 I posit that the authors of the Disney paper are first class asshats with oak leaf clusters.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2016 12:17 PM (JO9+V)

71 Trump at Gettysburg is kicking all kinds of ass. Doubling down on his themes of voter fraud, rigged system and media corruption. Go Trump!

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:18 PM (6IPEM)

72 RIP Kevin Meany, not too bad a comedian, but not all that funny. He was homosexual so they're acting like he was funnier than Rodney Dangerfield but meh. He was okay.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:18 PM (39g3+)

73 64 Gem we ALL want to know: So how is this different than any other Saturday night?
Posted by: deplorablegoatexchange at October 22, 2016 12:10 PM (L3z0

The shoulder towel, of course.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 12:19 PM (uaHyk)

74 You're not buying this, I can tell...

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 22, 2016 11:51 AM
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Hate to get all serious and stuff, but sometimes the best thing you can do for kids in a tough situation is to just let them veg out. I know that with 12yo grandkid going back and forth, having competing behavior and educational standards, etc., sometimes the best thing I can do for her is just put on Netflix, haul out 'her' blanket, and let her be a couch potato for a while.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 12:19 PM (MIKMs)

75 I have a bit of a different take on Halloween; it bothers me that this has become the most popular holiday, surpassing Christmas.

I am not so much concerned about the religious aspects, Christmas has virtually nothing to do with Jesus or salvation or God's love of mankind sending His own son any longer. That's not my main concern.

My main concern is why Halloween is more popular. These days getting any candy is a bigger treat than getting presents. When you're raised as a kid getting whatever you want at your fingertips whenever you want it, what's another day when you get presents? But Halloween, its a break from whole wheat tofu kale muffins and organic non-GMO free trade carrots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:21 PM (39g3+)

76 It must be terrible to be a leftist. It seems like the only thing they enjoy is hating those who are different.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 22, 2016 12:21 PM (AroJD)

77 Trump on his accusers: "All these liars will be sued after the election."

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:21 PM (6IPEM)

78 Christopher, I didn't know he was gay, although in hindsight...somewhat apparent!

I loved the show Doctor Katz. Here's Meaney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN8KemQDZ7A

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 12:21 PM (EnKk6)

79 Wow, good stuff here

Constitutional limit on all congressscretins
Hiring freeze for the bureacracy
5 year ban on former congress folk working for lobbyists, lifetime ban for anyone working in the white house on lobbyiug for foreign governments

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:23 PM (3Liv/)

80 Trump is going all in, wow, I'm impressed (for the first time actually) - the next 2 weeks are going to be war in the media....

Posted by: firehorse at October 22, 2016 12:23 PM (//TVq)

81 Lift all restrictions on energy production

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:24 PM (3Liv/)

82 His plan:
1. term limits
2. federal hiring freeze
3. deregulation
4. No lobbying after serving in congress
5. No lobbying on behalf of foreign entities

It's all good stuff so far

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:24 PM (6IPEM)

83 Cancel payments to UN climate change programs and use it on US infrastructure instead

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (3Liv/)

84 Are y'all hiding the gardening thread somewhere?

Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (Q3ES6)

85 Lift all restrictions on energy production
Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:24 PM (3Liv/)

Restrictions on energy production are as clear a sign of a not-free society as anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (Pz4pT)

86 Haha, Methos you can take over while I be lazy

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (6IPEM)

87 Rescind every single executive order from obama

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (3Liv/)

88 Cancel payments to UN...
Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (3Liv/)

Stop there.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2016 12:26 PM (Pz4pT)

89 80 Trump is going all in, wow, I'm impressed (for the first time actually) - the next 2 weeks are going to be war in the media....
Posted by: firehorse
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Is he live on TV or something?
He's supposed to be right around the corner today - not sure of exactly when, though.

Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:27 PM (Q3ES6)

90 Replace Scalia with someone Scalia like
Cancel all federal funding for sanctuary cities

Begin removing criminal illegal aliens
and cancel all visas from foreign countries who refuse to take them back

Suspend immigration from terror prone regions (ie islamic countries, europe?) where vetting isn't a practical possibility

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:28 PM (3Liv/)

91 This is one of the best speeches I've heard Donald deliver. He is focused, on point, and en fuego. He is determined and righteously pissed off.

Mrs Antonin Scalia has a Trump sign in her yard he says.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:28 PM (6IPEM)

92 Why stop with Obama? A good president would take all of them that have ever been done and are still in effect, and go through them one by one to make sure they all make sense and should stay or not. I'd commission a group to go through them during the transition so I could fire through them fast first day.

I love the idea of a press conference, with Trump in front of cameras with a big VOID stamp pounding out every one of Obama's unconstitutional overreaches of power. Its one of the things the president can and should do with his office, within the limits of law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)

93 Cancel payments to UN climate change programs and use it on US infrastructure instead

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:25 PM (3Liv/)

Yeah, use the funds to help greenlight / expedite some refineries and coal mining. Howz that for 'blowback' you climate bullies?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2016 12:29 PM (JO9+V)

94 Is he live on TV or something?
He's supposed to be right around the corner today - not sure of exactly when, though.
Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:27 PM (Q3ES6)

Live in Gettysburg right now (on Fox and CNN, not sure of others)

Posted by: firehorse at October 22, 2016 12:29 PM (//TVq)

95 We posit that Disney's pedagogies of pleasure, which operate from the notion that escape is attainable via the pleasurable experiences offered at Disney parks, teach us how to be particular kinds of Disney subjects who escape into safe and controlled forms of pleasure - these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.

And WE posit that you're as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:29 PM (SRKgf)

96 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN8KemQDZ7A

Live stream of the Donald (that sounds bad)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 12:30 PM (EnKk6)

97 Well it's pretty easy to see why NRO types and such a vaste swathe of the "conservative" punditocracy and GOP incumbents find Trump unacceptable.

I mean, we can't have policies that actually, you know, mitigate and begin to reverse the vandalism that's being committed against the US, its values and interests, for the last eight years.

Besides, I've heard he's used crude language in private.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 12:31 PM (QDnY+)

98 We posit that Disney's pedagogies of pleasure, which operate from the notion that escape is attainable via the pleasurable experiences offered at Disney parks, teach us how to be particular kinds of Disney subjects who escape into safe and controlled forms of pleasure - these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.
Do these people have any friends? Because I'm thinking that they must be a real pain in the ass at parties. If I had an adult child like that, I wouldn't even let him/her live in my basement. Life is too short.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2016 12:31 PM (+lVUW)

99 Push through congress (this is all first 100 days stuff in case it hasn't been mentioned)

Middle class tax relief and simplification
Establish tariffs to discourage offshoring

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:31 PM (3Liv/)

100 Go Donald!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 12:31 PM (6FqZa)

101 My Halloween costume this year will be Toxic Male Penis, a metaphorical representation of the way in which white male patriarchal oppression has shaped Western culture through the systematic exclusion of women and people of color from mainstream discourse and relegated them to the status of servile placeholders forever on the margins of the economic and social economies.

I'm thinking uncircumcised will be most appropriate.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 22, 2016 12:31 PM (8ZskC)

102 That quote about Disney reads less like a serious academic statement than something a computer program would spit out after reading 5000 leftist dissertations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:32 PM (39g3+)

103 Wow, Amazing plan.

He better have good security

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 12:32 PM (nyYhO)

104 Why stop with Obama?
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That was day 1 activities, so it's a matter of priority

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:32 PM (3Liv/)

105 That Trump the Establishment video is pretty great, actually.

Posted by: Gem at October 22, 2016 12:32 PM (uaHyk)

106 Supposedly Trump said he'd cut off all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities until they changed policy.

Its easy to make promises, but if by some miracle he's elected, I hope he follows through.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (39g3+)

107 We posit that Disney's pedagogies of pleasure,

I propose from my 'puter that here is posted a plethora of poo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (6FqZa)

108 89
Is he live on TV or something?
He's supposed to be right around the corner today - not sure of exactly when, though.
Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:27 PM (Q3ES6)

In Gettysburg, PA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkzNIA_e1c

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (sdi6R)

109 Universal vouchers and the end of common core

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (3Liv/)

110 Replace Scalia with someone Scalia like
Cancel all federal funding for sanctuary cities

Close their airports too, for good measure.

Suspend immigration from terror prone regions (ie islamic countries, europe?) where vetting isn't a practical possibility

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:28 PM (3Liv/)

And suspend any terrorists who somehow slip through.

By the neck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (SRKgf)

111 Guavaween in Tampa. Best Halloween Celebraton. Big bucks for costumes prizes so they put on a show.

Faves:

Coupla hershey bars. Him-Hershey's with nuts, Her Hershey's with Tits.

Fallopian swim team. Girl dressed like and egg and guys dress like sperm chasing her around.

Gal dressed like a socket, guy dressed like a plug. When they 'plug in' christmas lights go on.

Freddie take off: Built up so the guys head is actually in a cage at Freddie's stomach. one hand holds the cage and other there (free hand) has the knives and keeps trying to get the head in the cage as he moves it around. (It was truly amazing)

One guy 'hung' himself in the front alcove of a store front. harness on his body for support of course but very skillfully hidden. His neck in a noose. Gees.

It was fun early in the evening and then the thugs came out. not enough police.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the hobo jerky was too salty' at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (G0a1e)

112 Trump is killin' it.

Me likey.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 22, 2016 12:34 PM (WlGX+)

113 My fellow Americans, everything this guy *jerks thumb over appropriate shoulder* did for the past eight years is bullshit. My first act as President will be to recind, void, and repeal every last mother-humping one of his EOs. Thank you.

- - - Donald J. Trump, January 20, 2017

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2016 12:34 PM (JO9+V)

114 Live in Gettysburg right now (on Fox and CNN, not sure of others)
Posted by: firehorse
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Thanks. I don't do cable, but I'm sure I'll see hear the "Best Of" album before too long.
Maybe Va Beach is tomorrow?
I know someone here said he'd be in town this weekend...

Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:34 PM (Q3ES6)

115 Expanding vocational and technical education.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

116 these escape fantasies offer a way for consumers to disavow the racism and white supremacy that characterize Western humanist and colonialist projects.

Supremacy? What do you call people who are always done to?

Oh yeah. Losers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

117 Repeal obamacare and replace with health savings accounts

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:35 PM (3Liv/)

118 The Vo-Tech school in my town closed many years ago. Pretty much everyone I know who went there ended up with a good job/career.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 22, 2016 12:36 PM (WlGX+)

119 Health insurance accounts and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:36 PM (sdi6R)

120 76 It must be terrible to be a leftist. It seems like the only thing they enjoy is hating those who are ~~different~~ normal.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 22, 2016 12:21 PM (AroJD)

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:36 PM (SRKgf)

121 Get the money out of government, Donald, and a lot of this shit will fix itself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 12:37 PM (ZKlDy)

122 115 Expanding vocational and technical education.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

THIS. Give them something they can use!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the hobo jerky was too salty' at October 22, 2016 12:37 PM (G0a1e)

123 Repeal obamacare and replace with health savings accounts

This is why "repeal and replace" didn't bother me by definition; it matters what you replace it with.

But this is one of those "when I am God King and mind control congress" fantasies that voters eat up but presidents cannot deliver. They are executive, they can't force congress to take action or write and pass law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

124 I thought Walt Disney was white. To combat white supremacy and colonialism, we need a Muslim theme park, controlled by Muslims.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 12:38 PM (mBYZv)

125 Trump Rally Eerily Evokes Image of Nuremberg Rallies.

Posted by: The MSM at October 22, 2016 12:38 PM (7H/2n)

126 119 Health insurance accounts and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:36 PM (sdi6R)

Yes! Exactly!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the hobo jerky was too salty' at October 22, 2016 12:38 PM (G0a1e)

127 Of course, building the wall, with US paying up front with the understanding that we'll be getting reimbursement from Mexico once he's done kicking there asses

Mandatory 2 year prison for illegally reentering

Mandatory 5 year prison for illegally entering with a criminal record *or* multiple entry attempts

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:39 PM (3Liv/)

128 Gardening thread up...

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 12:39 PM (DrCtv)

129 119 Health insurance accounts and opening insurance competition across state lines.

RICO the MSM and the Democrat Party.

God knows they deserve it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:39 PM (SRKgf)

130 Escaping politics for a bit. Going to listen to some bluegrass on the YouTube. I like to search for younger musicians - kids really. There's this ten year old I like - played at the Opry with Ricky Skaggs. Gives me hopefulness that all is not lost. BBIAW

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 12:40 PM (bpfzP)

131 Mandatory 2 year prison for illegally reentering

Mandatory 5 year prison for illegally entering with a criminal record *or* multiple entry attempts

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:39 PM (3Liv/)

Term to be served at hard labor - extending the wall.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:40 PM (SRKgf)

132 Cannibal Bob 'the hobo jerky was too salty' at October 22, 2016 12:37 PM

Yes!

Posted by: KT at October 22, 2016 12:40 PM (qahv/)

133 No, don't spend money cut from idiotic and destructive "climate" programs elsewhere. Just don't spend it.

No, don't spend one minute on "tariffs" until you've eliminated 75% of the indefensible and destructive regulation that is the biggest factor causing needless off-shoring.

And beyond the environmental idiocy that includes "equal opportunity" regulation, and pushing way back on the depredations of the shake-down (liability) industry. Make progress in these areas and things would improve so much you'll forget about tariffs.

Lobbying bans may not survive constitutionality tests. They exist, in some forms, already for various kinds of fed contractors (I was under some), but I don't know if they've been tested.

Term limits exist, they're in the constitution, and I don't want Sen. Sessions and the like forced out. In general, making up rules to fix problems that are political don't work. CA has had legislative term limits for years and, in case you hadn't heard, things are incalculably worse than before.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 12:41 PM (QDnY+)

134 From 7:15 AM when I got breakfast the temperature has gone from 32 F to 80 F.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 12:41 PM (6FqZa)

135 131 Mandatory 2 year prison for illegally reentering

Mandatory 5 year prison for illegally entering with a criminal record *or* multiple entry attempts

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:39 PM (3Liv/)

Term to be served at hard labor - extending the wall.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:40 PM (SRKgf)

Not only is going to make Mexico pay for the wall, he'll get them to build it as well!

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:41 PM (sdi6R)

136 Its easy to make promises, but if by some miracle he's elected, I hope he follows through.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:33 PM (39g3+)

I hope he CAN follow through. It's not 100% up to him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:43 PM (SRKgf)

137 Health insurance accounts and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Let's add portability and back to the cash model. Catastrophic-only policies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 12:43 PM (ZKlDy)

138 I thought all the Morons had known that NRO went all in for the RNCe long ago. I quit going there years ago for morning links.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 22, 2016 12:44 PM (mpXpK)

139 He finished with restoring government "of, by, and for the people". Nice touch at Gettysburg.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:44 PM (sdi6R)

140 Rhomboid, I believe the point here is that Congress will have to pass an amendment limiting their own jobs. In other words they will refuse to pass it. And they will have to tell their constituents why they refuse to pass it. They should call it the look at the pig with his snout in the trough act

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 12:44 PM (Hrg+t)

141 Let's add portability and back to the cash model. Catastrophic-only policies.
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Repealing obamacare would allow catastrophic only policies again, and after the premium pain of the last few years there will surely be demand for it, therefore someone will get back in that business.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:45 PM (3Liv/)

142 He'll be in Virginia Beach at 3:00 and in Ohio at 7:00 today.

He's the Energizer Bunny of candidates. I'm quite a bit younger than him, and I couldn't keep up a pace like that.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 12:46 PM (sdi6R)

143 115 Expanding vocational and technical education.
Posted by: rickl
--------------

Running with the Mike Rowe line - I like it.
If we absolutely have to have a DoE, make Mike the Director.

Posted by: Chi at October 22, 2016 12:47 PM (Q3ES6)

144 Term limits exist, they're in the constitution, and I don't want Sen. Sessions and the like forced out. In general, making up rules to fix problems that are political don't work. CA has had legislative term limits for years and, in case you hadn't heard, things are incalculably worse than before.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 12:41 PM (QDnY+)

This.

The problem is that legislators about to be termed out cut sweetheart deals with unions, etc. that hose the taxpayers. The other legislators vote for the corresponding legislation because one day they too will be termed out.

Much better for legislators to find out on election night that they're done, and only have a few months to work their legerdemain on the people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

145 No, no "health savings accounts."

A major reason for health care finance dysfunction is the idiotic tax treatment of the topic, which started as a war-time measure in WWII. It is one of the major reasons that price signals in that area are distorted, which is one of the reasons that cost increases have been so excessive (one reason).

Treat health insurance coverage like any other sort of income or pay, when employer provided.

If you return real economics to health care, you will get rationality and competition that will render all these tweaks of artificial and ultimately destructive status quo features a vague memory.

The reality and power of markets, for some reason, are intermittently completely forgotten, even by "conservatives", when they are figuring out how to disassemble the artificial messes they confront.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 12:47 PM (QDnY+)

146 The Colorado School of Mines is the last college I can think of that hasn't gone insane. (100% chance of employment with a high paying job upon graduating from there) strictly STEM BTW.

Can anybody name other Schools like Colorado School of Mines?

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 12:49 PM (cMIkI)

147 Oh, and repeal that EMTALA shit.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 12:49 PM (ZKlDy)

148 I thought it was pretty good, not sure I agree with all of it, but that's to be expected. If he can get two of those things done, I will call it a success.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 12:51 PM (nyYhO)

149 138 I thought all the Morons had known that NRO went all in for the RNCe long ago. I quit going there years ago for morning links.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 22, 2016 12:44 PM (mpXpK)

Vic, NRO is owned by Salem Communications is it not? (Hot Air, Town hall, Twitchy, Red State to name a few online entities)

I'm finding conflicting reports.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 12:52 PM (cMIkI)

150 Yeah, Pepe, the kids that go to the School of the Mines don't even have to look for jobs. They are recruited while they're in school and graduate with a job ready to start after graduation. It's an excellent school.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:54 PM (6IPEM)

151 The Colorado School of Mines is the last college I can think of that hasn't gone insane.

A mine is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 12:55 PM (ZKlDy)

152 The sad thing about Trump's plan is that Ryan and McConnell and their ilk likely oppose 95% of it. If he gets elected they will resume undermining him and sabotaging all his efforts to pass legislation like they have during his campaign

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:56 PM (6IPEM)

153 Oh yes, spypeach, don't get me wrong, if only a few of these common sense things got done, it would represent a dramatic improvement in the trend lines for the country. Obviously.

One of the reasons the attitude of so many GOP and conservative elements is astonishing, and bodes ill for the future. They simply are not serious about actually governing the country intelligently, or realistic about how things work.

But it's pretty clear there's a national common sense and intelligence crisis, and it's hardly limited to the Dems and high-disinformation NPR types (for whom there is no hope, and who simply must be seen as a permanent burden and problem for the foreseeable future).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 12:57 PM (QDnY+)

154
Trump Rally Eerily Evokes Image of Nuremberg Rallies.
Posted by: The MSM at October 22, 2016 12:38 PM (7H/2n)

This day in History, October 22 2008: Obama Rallies evokes unity of belief and good time for all! Women faint at the wonderfulness that is our next leader!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2016 12:57 PM (lPUaT)

155 Treat health insurance coverage like any other sort of income or pay, when employer provided.
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Health insurance shouldn't be employer provided anyway. If were going to bother having a currency, pay people in that and let them spend it however they choose.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:59 PM (3Liv/)

156 Sometimes A Dog Is Just A Cigar For Crying Out Loud- a limerick

These damn Disney-oid pedagogies
Are making my mind turn all groggy
Minnie's matriarchy?
That Donald Duck malarkey?
And poor Pluto is merely a doggie!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 01:00 PM (wPiJc)

157 National Anthem at Talladega for truck race on now.

Looks like everyone is standing.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 01:01 PM (3Liv/)

158 The mob with their pitchforks and torches is converging on Johns Hopkins. The current catechism of "sacred truths about gender, sexuality, and sexual orientation" must be repeated by the university's administration! Gender reassignment surgery MUST be promoted as the best way to treat transgender individuals! Who cares about the suicides?

Heh, I thought that HRC stood for you know who. I forgot about the "Human Rights Campaign", though no doubt Hillary is 100% on board with them.

Where are the TERFS when you need them?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:02 PM (dtWKK)

159 Well, it's not time for the pet thread yet, but I just got a call from the vet that my 16-year-old cat Kira's blood work looks good. I've been nervously anticipating that call for a few days.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (sdi6R)

160 Methos, that's the point. If employer-provided "benefits" are treated like income - which most are - then, voila, they're handled like income by the "consumer" (employee).

Once "health care spending" can be treated, by consumers, like they handle any other sort of spending, then economic rationality will return to the sector. The results would be so dramatic you can't exaggerate them. But the economic illiteracy and timidity and selfishness of 95% of Americans make such an obvious solution nearly impossible.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (QDnY+)

161 150 Yeah, Pepe, the kids that go to the School of the Mines don't even have to look for jobs. They are recruited while they're in school and graduate with a job ready to start after graduation. It's an excellent school.
Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:54 PM (6IPEM)

And it part of the University of Colorado public education system and the tuition is low.

I went to CU Boulder and wished I transferred to The School of Mines. Those students have access to the top technology in the country. They work their butt off and out of college are basically locks for 100grand starting salaries with benefits.

I'm trying to convince my nephew to go there. He is already being recruited by engineering schools across the country as a Freshman.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (cMIkI)

162 The Colorado School of Mines is the last college I
can think of that hasn't gone insane. (100% chance of employment with a
high paying job upon graduating from there) strictly STEM BTW.

Can anybody name other Schools like Colorado School of Mines?

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 12:49 PM (cMIkI)

My daughter is looking hard at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical Univ in Daytona Beach FL. Aerospace Engineering. We visited this summer. I was impressed. She liked the geek factor PLUS the plethora of young, fit, international males of military bearing going for their pilots licenses.
When MythBusters did a show and proclaimed that it was impossible to make a flying airplane out of concrete, ERAU students went to work did just that. Sent the tape in to the show. It was aired and the original show was pulled.
Told her that if/when she goes and moves off campus, I get to come visit for a few weeks every February. The Daytona racetrack is right there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (JO9+V)

163 149 Vic, NRO is owned by Salem Communications is it not? (Hot Air, Town hall, Twitchy, Red State to name a few online entities)

I'm finding conflicting reports.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 12:52 PM (cMIkI)

National Review was originally founded by Bill Buckley. After he died it became more and more of a "Republican Magazine." The on-line version is now run by C.W. Cooke. I do not believe they are part of Salem Communications which is more of a religious group.
Town Hall used to be run by Hugh Hewitt but I think Michell Maulkin bought into it a few years ago.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (mpXpK)

164 Never been a big fan of Disney, not even the classics. My only memory of the Wicked Queen is a cameo as Woody Allen's cartoon girlfriend in Annie Hall.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:04 PM (dtWKK)

165 Jeebus. Husband's youngest niece is a brilliant scholar, but doesn't possess one ounce of common sense (and she's a hot mess, period).

She was leaving ATL to go back to school last weekend, and her dad (husband's younger bro) tells her her oil is low and needs changing, and to get it taken care of immediately and he'll pay for it.

Princess ignores him and tools it down I-75 at 80 mph and the engine seized up.

She called our son and asked him to help her, because she knew her dad would be pissed. Son told her to call her dad and deal with it.

So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:04 PM (928Aa)

166 Montana Tech, South Dakota School of Mines, etc. There are a few out there. 2 year schools like WyoTech and North Dakota State College of Science place nearly 100% right away.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at October 22, 2016 01:05 PM (zbdXz)

167 Heh, I thought that HRC stood for you know who. I
forgot about the "Human Rights Campaign", though no doubt Hillary is
100% on board with them. Where are the TERFS when you need them? Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:02 PM (dtWKK)
=====

One point that DRT made at the last debate that might have been missed is that HRC accepts outrageous amounts of money from countries that are antithetical to our own values, much less those that she says she supports.

Good on DJT for asking her to return the money from countries that literally kill gays, literally kill women, and literally kill anyone who does not accept whatever so-called 'religion' currently in power.

Return the money. Heh.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 01:07 PM (MIKMs)

168 163 149 Vic, NRO is owned by Salem Communications is it not? (Hot Air, Town hall, Twitchy, Red State to name a few online entities)

I'm finding conflicting reports.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 12:52 PM (cMIkI)

National Review was originally founded by Bill Buckley. After he died it became more and more of a "Republican Magazine." The on-line version is now run by C.W. Cooke. I do not believe they are part of Salem Communications which is more of a religious group.
Town Hall used to be run by Hugh Hewitt but I think Michell Maulkin bought into it a few years ago.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 22, 2016 01:03 PM (

Thanks for the reply Vic.

It all seems very incestuous to me. Wish these sites would remain independent.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 01:08 PM (cMIkI)

169 If Trump can pull out a win, I will feel hopeful. His advisors have really served him well. He has evolved as a candidate on the issues and his policy ideas and plans have really gelled and are coherent and mirror his the vision for reform he started his campaign with. I thought that speech was excellent.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 01:09 PM (6IPEM)

170 Trump said he would oppose Time Warner/AT&T merger.

Good.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 01:09 PM (ZKlDy)

171 The Silent Majority Freshman Year- a limerick

It will be just the bestest of times
A Fine Arts education sublime
Tug O' War. Fight the wind
Shrinking box holds you in
At the Colorado School of Mimes

Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2016 01:11 PM (wPiJc)

172 So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Tell your husband's niece that if I am elected, I will establish an agency to provide free emergency roadside automotive assistance, so that she no longer has to depend upon sexist family members.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 22, 2016 01:11 PM (mBYZv)

173
If Trump can pull out a win, I will feel hopeful. His advisors have
really served him well. He has evolved as a candidate on the issues and
his policy ideas and plans have really gelled and are coherent and
mirror his the vision for reform he started his campaign with. I
thought that speech was excellent.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 01:09 PM (6IPEM)

Sorry, L, Elle. This morning Geraldo informed us there is no way that Trump will win. And Jerry Rivers says he's "torn" who to vote for. Said Trump has been a dear friend to him and his family, but Hillary is more in line with his beliefs.

I think he really, really loves the Beast's open borders promise, because we need to have terrorists coming in as well as drug cartels coming and going into our country at will.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:12 PM (928Aa)

174 169 If Trump can pull out a win, I will feel hopeful. His advisors have really served him well. He has evolved as a candidate on the issues and his policy ideas and plans have really gelled and are coherent and mirror his the vision for reform he started his campaign with. I thought that speech was excellent.
Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 01:09 PM (6IPEM)

Today's speech was outstanding. He was firing on all cylinders.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:14 PM (sdi6R)

175 RIP Kevin Meany, not too bad a comedian, but not all that funny. He was homosexual so they're acting like he was funnier than Rodney Dangerfield but meh. He was okay.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:18 PM (39g3+)

I never heard of him, and I'm not Charlie Gibson, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2016 01:15 PM (CUYn5)

176 So, hillary's plan is to run out the clock? We all know what a prevent defense does.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 22, 2016 01:15 PM (kTF2Z)

177 This morning Geraldo informed us there is no way that Trump will win.

Must be from one of the ancient scrolls he pulled from Al Capone's library.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 01:15 PM (6FqZa)

178 Kevin Meaney didn't know he was gay until 2008? I saw that 25 years ago.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 22, 2016 01:16 PM (ZKlDy)

179 Kevin Meany... he's the bad kid from all the Encyclopedia Brown books, right? Didn't know he was light in the loafers

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 01:16 PM (6FqZa)

180 165 Jeebus. Husband's youngest niece is a brilliant scholar, but doesn't possess one ounce of common sense (and she's a hot mess, period).

...

So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:04 PM (928Aa)

Don't tell me. She's voting for Hillary, right?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:17 PM (sdi6R)

181 Trump said he would oppose Time Warner/AT&T merger.
====
That is exactly the kind of Monopoly on the internet that we do not need. And it completes the Prog Propaganda Death Star

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 01:18 PM (Hrg+t)

182 Don't tell me. She's voting for Hillary, right?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:17 PM (sdi6R)

Thankfully, she's only 17. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:19 PM (928Aa)

183 So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:04 PM (928Aa)
=====

Kids in my area do stupid stuff like that all the time (and quite a few of the adults). Hand down a car to a kid, an old diesel Mercedes, and the kid puts ethanol in it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 01:20 PM (MIKMs)

184 Don't tell me. She's voting for Hillary, right?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:17 PM (sdi6R)

Thankfully, she's only 17. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:19 PM (928Aa)

So, she's not *legally* voting for Hillary?

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 01:21 PM (3Liv/)

185
So, she's not *legally* voting for Hillary?

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 01:21 PM (3Liv/)

Heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:27 PM (928Aa)

186 If all Trump can do is repeal Ocare and replace it with a practical, mostly free market system, then he'll solve many of this country's economic problems. That and business tax and regulation relief, he'd be re-elected in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Soona at October 22, 2016 01:32 PM (Fmupd)

187 5 year ban on former congress folk working for lobbyists, lifetime ban for anyone working in the white house on lobbyiug for foreign governments

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2016 12:23 PM (3Liv/)

That would be nice. People like the odious John Boehner (now working as a lobbyist) would no longer be rewarded for betraying their side. They might be less quick to sell us out, if their future depended upon re-election.

You might want to consider rebooting your phone to change your hash. You seem quite well informed to me.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:34 PM (dtWKK)

188 Trump said he would oppose Time Warner/AT&T merger.

God love him for that. Time-Warner is Satan's spawn, and AT&T is worse.

We should force them both to break up on anti-trust grounds, much like AT&T (then solely a phone company) had to do back in the 80s, so that every consumer had a choice between half a dozen cable/internet providers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 01:35 PM (SRKgf)

189 Traveling tip: The AutoZone on the north side of Waco, close to Hwy 6, stays open until 9pm Sunday evenings. You know, in case you suddenly need coolant on your trip from Lubbock to Houston and forgot to check before you left. The day after graduating college in August. After ignoring dear ol' Dad's good advice, since May, to have the car serviced before making that 500-mile trip one last time.

Oh and you might give some thought to thanking your lucky stars that dear ol' dumb Dad found the jug of coolant he gave you sometime before, stashed up there in your rent house's garage shelf, unused, and packed it in his truck just because.

Because limping into Waco from 30 miles out is much better than having to be towed in, as the sun starts to set on a warm Sunday evening in August.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2016 01:35 PM (JO9+V)

190 Replace Scalia with someone Scalia like
Cancel all federal funding for sanctuary cities

Posted by: Methos

So if Trump wins, I'll have to get the baseball bat out of storage.

Posted by: Sonya Sodomizor at October 22, 2016 01:37 PM (dtWKK)

191 WaPo Dana Milbank says today that Trump must not just be defeated but humiliated. Trump delenda est. And his little dog too.

A repost from early August:

"Last week I posted about a telling article in the NY Times about what's really going on: "Democrats, Looking Past Mere Victory, Hope to End the Trump Movement." It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

Now take a guess what Plouffe means by "his kind."

MSM mouthpieces like Milbank think they're Fellow Travelers, but those in the Inner Inner Party see them as Useful Idiots.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 01:37 PM (bQxkN)

192 If I were king of the world, coordinated attacks by organized hacker groups would be punishable by death and I would send out death squads to hunt them down. I'm a wrathful king.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2016 01:38 PM (/wcVO)

193 191
It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

Now take a guess what Plouffe means by "his kind."

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 01:37 PM (bQxkN)

I take it to mean "the white American middle class".

To quote Breitbart: "Fuck you. War."

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:41 PM (sdi6R)

194 "Last week I posted about a telling article in the NY Times about what's really going on: "Democrats, Looking Past Mere Victory, Hope to End the Trump Movement." It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

Right back at ya, regarding Obongo, Hillary, and hell, almost all Democrats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 01:41 PM (SRKgf)

195 191 WaPo Dana Milbank says today that Trump must not just be defeated but humiliated. Trump delenda est. And his little dog too.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 01:37 PM (bQxkN)

"Dana?" Is he/she transitioning?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

196 So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:04 PM (928Aa)

Why? Let her pay for it. Spending a year taking the bus to a job waiting tables to pay for the new engine will work wonders in curtailing her protracted adolescence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 01:45 PM (SRKgf)

197 If I were king of the world, coordinated attacks by organized hacker groups would be punishable by death and I would send out death squads to hunt them down. I'm a wrathful king.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Fine for groups like Anonymous who hacked and released Prop 8 donor info or identity thieves and malware authors in general.

But shutting down twitter? Or doxxing liberal reporters like the guy (I foget who) who published she adress of the reporters who gave the address of the guy who shot Cecil? Or Assange, or Guccifer? Sometimes, hackers are the good guys, so you have to treat it case by case.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:45 PM (mBYZv)

198 Of course leftists want to destroy opponents, what better way to really rule the goverment as they want.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 01:48 PM (sWbjH)

199 Democrats, Looking Past Mere Victory, Hope to End the Trump Movement." It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."
.........
Oh yeah that's completely normal. And not at all terrifying.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 01:49 PM (Hrg+t)

200 Assange definitely sounds like a good guy at the moment.

And Snowden at least alerted the American people to the extent that our own government is spying on us.

The Clintons probably gave more secrets to our enemies than both of them put together.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 01:49 PM (sdi6R)

201 183 So now the car is in an impound lot and her dad has to pay for a new engine as well.

-
There was an hilarious call to Car Talk. A girl had borrowed dad's car and when the oil light came on, she bought some black tape to put over the light so it wouldn't annoy her. By an amazing coincidence, the engine seized. She called to ask if she'd done anything wrong. They called her dad and informed him of the situation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at October 22, 2016 01:50 PM (zMjbQ)

202 I doubt if I'll still be at the University till next Monday but was hoping so, could be interesting.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 01:50 PM (sWbjH)

203 ricki I have no doubt that she did.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 01:51 PM (sWbjH)

204 "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

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Good luck with that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at October 22, 2016 01:51 PM (zMjbQ)

205 Finally!! The girl spawn said "who's that"? about someone awful! She has asked that question about Elvis, The Beach Boys, KISS, The Who, Sean Connery, Ronald Reagan and a host of people that are good to know. Today, finally, she said,"Who are the Kennedys?" Hallelujah!
Oh and yes we have educated the child about the others. No. We will not educate her about the slime.

Posted by: madamemayhem (goddess of brownies) at October 22, 2016 01:51 PM (yTnCT)

206 What's this "his kind" bullshit?

These people aren't kidding around. They'll happily load us into cattle cars.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:53 PM (928Aa)

207 Are there any effective ways to counter ... academia's leftward drift?

Stop paying for it with tax dollars = problem solved.

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2016 01:53 PM (8J/Te)

208 "when the oil light came on, she bought some black tape to put over the light so it wouldn't annoy her"

Yeah, I've seen equipment with the alarm buzzer stuffed with paper for the same "reason".

I have no words.

Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 22, 2016 01:53 PM (Z8DIA)

209 Formula one's US Grand Prix qualifying is starting

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 01:58 PM (sWbjH)

210 Rickl, I know you've been worried about your kitty cat. That's good news.

Posted by: bluebell at October 22, 2016 01:58 PM (DoQtB)

211 Democrats, Looking Past Mere Victory, Hope to End the Trump Movement." It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

What can that possibly mean? The outcome of an election is a win and a loss, so this can only refer to some sort of revenge enacted after the election, if Hillary wins.

And what about the phrase "his kind"? The people who voted for him will presumably continue to hold the same views as before the loss, so there will be the potential to "rise again".

These people are like rabid dogs, and someday we will have to work up the courage to deal with them, rather than be ruled by them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 01:59 PM (dtWKK)

212 And it's 'tard time at the library, I see.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at October 22, 2016 01:59 PM (928Aa)

213 Academia has been marching leftward for at least 150 years, its not going to stop anytime soon.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:01 PM (sWbjH)

214 208 "when the oil light came on, she bought some black tape to put over the light so it wouldn't annoy her"
Yeah, I've seen equipment with the alarm buzzer stuffed with paper for the same "reason".
I have no words.
Posted by: the deplorable sock_rat_eez, stay calm and carry on at October 22, 2016 01:53 PM (Z8DIA)

I do.

Posted by: Charles Darwin at October 22, 2016 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

215 Jane wrote that the car had been impounded plus needs a new engine.

Yikes!

That is going to cost one hell of a lot of money. Heck, might as well just shop for a newer used car.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 02:02 PM (DrCtv)

216 Would someone please ban XzRw1? His shit is getting tiresome.

Posted by: Charles Darwin at October 22, 2016 02:02 PM (SRKgf)

217 It all seems very incestuous to me. Wish these sites would remain independent.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 22, 2016 01:08 PM (cMIkI)

------------------------------
Non-subscriber funding for various sites and think tanks and the boards of the funding organizations are incestuous as well. There are few truly independent voices on the right or left.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 22, 2016 02:03 PM (NUqwG)

218 Replacing my old truck's engine was the last straw

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:03 PM (sWbjH)

219 Kevin Meany, not too bad a comedian, but not all that funny. He was homosexual so they're acting like he was funnier than Rodney Dangerfield but meh. He was okay.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 22, 2016 12:18 PM (39g3+)

He made me laugh, but was he as good as Rodney no. Kevin Meany had a really funny interview were he did on of those Las Vegas marriages, he was drunk of course and When he sobered up tried to annul it and she wanted half his income. I never knew he was gay.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at October 22, 2016 02:04 PM (dKiJG)

220 199 Democrats, Looking Past Mere Victory, Hope to End the Trump Movement." It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."
.........
Oh yeah that's completely normal. And not at all terrifying.
Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 01:49 PM (Hrg+t)

He longs to make America patriot-rein.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2016 02:04 PM (SRKgf)

221 The best holidays come from the Celtic/Pagan calendar, which is based on the Longest Day, Shortest Day and the two days in between.

The Catholic Church co-opted the Shortest Day as Christmas. Gather around the family hearth in the dark of the Longest Night.

Halloween is the Celtic New Year's Day, as time turns over and the crack between the Living World and the Dead World opens. Best time to talk to your dead relatives and friends. The Catholic Church made it All Soul's Day.

St Patricks Day is another and lands (nearly) opposite Halloween on the calendar. It was once a minor religious holiday in Ireland but has become a global phenomenon because of the American parades and bacchanals.

Who can be afraid of a Halloween costume? I can only understand the Lefts attack on Halloween as an attack on humor, youthful fun and Old School Paganism. But I thought that was what college was all about?

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 02:08 PM (bQxkN)

222 217
There are few truly independent voices on the right or left.
Posted by: RioBravo at October 22, 2016 02:03 PM (NUqwG)

I'm tired of so many sites using Disqus for comments. They keep track of what you say. I think those records will be used against us someday.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 02:08 PM (sdi6R)

223 Would someone please ban XzRw1? His shit is getting tiresome.

Posted by: Charles Darwin

He is banned. What you see is not his posts or even his nic. Ace has some software that automatically mutates his post and nic to randomly selected goofs that ace wrote, leaves it up for a few minutes and deletes it.

I'm starting to think this is a mistake, as he evidently gets some satisfaction of seeing a placeholder for something he did, even though the original was never seen by anyone.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 02:08 PM (dtWKK)

224 Fox poll has McMuffin beating trump 31% to 27%. I have no idea what the internals are, I can never figure out how to find them. This is so infuriating. I hate the GOP

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CvY9mmfVUAAmA7j.jpg

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 02:09 PM (nyYhO)

225 Term limits exist, they're in the constitution,

Handicap incumbents (1% of voters)/year.
Make them take all their staff with them when they lose.

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2016 02:10 PM (8J/Te)

226 Are there any effective ways to counter ... academia's leftward drift?

Stop paying for it with tax dollars = problem solved.

Posted by: DaveA

I think corporations will stop considering a 4yr degree the entry ticket to employment.

Any degree outside of the hard sciences and engineering is a 4 year exercise in goldbricking. It's an anachronistic exercise.

Think about coding; kids who start coding at 8 could legitimately be productive employees at 14 without a degree. Any college program at that point would be a waste of time and money.

I have a feeling that google (evil be upon them) will start a coding camp that will undercut all ComSci university programs before the end of the decade.

A smart federal government - I say a' smart federal government - would smash the status quo and let flowers bloom. But the market will make that choice for them. (just one of the reasons why our current crop of statist Betters are so embarrassingly wrong... )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2016 02:12 PM (V3IFq)

227 Replacing my old truck's engine was the last straw

Posted by: Skip

You should have listened to me when I pointed out that the low oil warning light was lit.

Posted by: Skip's dad at October 22, 2016 02:12 PM (dtWKK)

228 that last link didn't work, here's a good one, I hope.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CvY9mmfVUAAmA7j.jpg:large

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 02:13 PM (nyYhO)

229 224 Fox poll has McMuffin beating trump 31% to 27%.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 02:09 PM (nyYhO)

I find that *very* hard to believe.

I'm sure Glenn Beck is jizzing all over the place.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 02:13 PM (sdi6R)

230 oh well that one didn't work either.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2016 02:14 PM (nyYhO)

231 >>>Handicap incumbents
Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2016 02:10 PM (8J/Te)<<<

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at October 22, 2016 02:14 PM (X/Cr2)

232 Ignoramus -- AFAIK the Christian churches have always used syncretism to fit into whatever territories they were entering. The lunar and solar rhythms are so tied to food and general welfare that, of course, they all just became standard. The totally lunar calendars do not have harvests (winter survival) as a primal purpose. Boulder terlit or rhomboid can probably explain it better, but my own take is that cultures dependent on seasonal harvests are fundamentally different than those who do not have long seasonal famines.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 02:17 PM (MIKMs)

233 I had a internal coolant leak and it was running but was overheating, I had to ride in summer with the heater on full blast.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:18 PM (sWbjH)

234 Grosjean didn't make Q2, Gutierrez has.. Hamilton was on top.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:21 PM (sWbjH)

235 Bluebell, glad to see you survived the winds. It was really whipping the branches here and I was expecting a power outage, because HoCo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 02:21 PM (EnKk6)

236 mustbequantum thanks for your vote of confidence, but my grasp of solar/lunar cycles and how they form the basis of social or (borrowed, expedient) religious calendars is rudimentary. BTH has a much better classical historical basis, and esp. religious historical knowledge.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 02:21 PM (QDnY+)

237 oh well that one didn't work either.

Posted by: spypeach

Spypeach, if your link contains the letters 'i', 'm', 'g' all together, pixy/minx will replace it with three underscores ___ (actually, I wrote ___ there, knowing it would be mutated).

The solution is to go to http://tinyurl.com, convert your link to a tinyurl, and post that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 02:22 PM (dtWKK)

238
231 >>>Handicap incumbents
Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2016 02:10 PM (8J/Te)

Hey, I resemble that remark!
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at October 22, 2016 02:14 PM (X/Cr2)

-----------------

Funny video of ole Sheila at WZ when she accuses the Prussions for the Wikileaks dumps.

Posted by: Soona at October 22, 2016 02:23 PM (Fmupd)

239 Think about coding; kids who start coding at 8 could
legitimately be productive employees at 14 without a degree. Any
college program at that point would be a waste of time and money.

I
have a feeling that google (evil be upon them) will start a coding camp
that will undercut all ComSci university programs before the end of the
decade.

A smart federal government - I say a' smart federal
government - would smash the status quo and let flowers bloom. But the
market will make that choice for them. (just one of the reasons why our
current crop of statist Betters are so embarrassingly wrong... )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2016 02:12 PM (V3IFq)
====='The Eyes of the Calculor' (McMullin) from Australia used that very trope to make a really good SciFi book series on kidnapping and training children for a human-based computer. Echoes of Ender's Game. Good series and had me scared to death.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 02:24 PM (MIKMs)

240 >>>Ignoramus -- AFAIK the Christian churches have always used syncretism to fit into whatever territories they were entering.

HEY THAT'S CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

Posted by: Rev. AL SHARPTON at October 22, 2016 02:24 PM (dtWKK)

241 >>Can anybody name other Schools like Colorado School of Mines?

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable

Michigan Technological University is close. Started as a mining school too.

Posted by: Aviator at October 22, 2016 02:24 PM (5huyv)

242 Funny video of ole Sheila at WZ when she accuses the Prussions for the Wikileaks dumps.

Posted by: Soona

Ok, Sheila, you got me. I confess. I'm sorry.

Posted by: Otto Von Bismarck at October 22, 2016 02:25 PM (dtWKK)

243 Michigan Tech University sings the Army Corps of Engineers song:

We are We are We are We are--
We are the engineers--
We can We can We can We can--
Demolish forty beers--
Drink rum Drink rum Drink rum all day--
and come along with us for--
We don't give a damn for any old man--
Who don't give a damn for us--

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at October 22, 2016 02:27 PM (EnKk6)

244 Can anybody name other Schools like Colorado School of Mines?

Posted by: Pepe

I am a graduate of the prestigious Sorbonne School of Mimes.

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at October 22, 2016 02:28 PM (dtWKK)

245

Posted by: Colorado School of Mimes at October 22, 2016 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

246
mustbequantum thanks for your vote of confidence, but my grasp of
solar/lunar cycles and how they form the basis of social or (borrowed,
expedient) religious calendars is rudimentary. BTH has a much better
classical historical basis, and esp. religious historical knowledge. Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 02:21 PM (QDnY+)
=====

But youse guys are coherent and I am not.

I have been nattering on about the total difference between cold cultures (who face famine every year) and others, who do not. Cold cultures force savings, planning, etc. where other latitudes on the globe do not have that necessity.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 02:29 PM (MIKMs)

247 >>>I am a graduate of the prestigious Sorbonne School of Mimes.

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at October 22, 2016 02:28 PM (dtWKK)<<<

Pfft. That's a clown college.

Posted by: proud graduate of Hamburger U, now running the fryolator at McDonalds at October 22, 2016 02:30 PM (X/Cr2)

248 https://tinyurl.com/j48bnus

Greta Van Susteren Joins Trey Gowdy In Fight To Bring Down Hillary Clinton, Demands Answers After The Leaked Emails!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 22, 2016 02:32 PM (y3aQB)

249 >>I'm sure Glenn Beck is jizzing all over the place.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable

Damn near put my eye out.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 22, 2016 02:34 PM (5huyv)

250 Not unlike Tourette's syndrome

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:34 PM (sWbjH)

251 Apropos of Halloween costumes, I'm surprised grammie winger hasn't gone looking for a Cubs uniform.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:37 PM (3C9q2)

252 The totally lunar calendars do not have harvests (winter survival) as a primal purpose. Boulder terlit or rhomboid can probably explain it better, but my own take is that cultures dependent on seasonal harvests are fundamentally different than those who do not have long seasonal famines.

I think you're probably right, as to why the Egyptians and the Mesoamericans - especially - used solar calendars.

As to the lunar calendars in the eastern Med, the Jews got theirs from the Seleucid Greeks IIRC. The debate over the calendar was a violent problem under the Maccabees; the complaints over it are prevalent in the Dead Sea Scrolls and in Jubilees. But I don't know why the Greeks went with a solar-lunar hybrid.

I also don't know why the Arabs went strictly lunar, but I can guess. If your culture revolves around land trade, raiding, and hunting then you don't care as much what goods are travelling the route. You care a lot more about when the moon is bright or not, to plan for raids accordingly.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 02:39 PM (6FqZa)

253 >>>Ignoramus -- AFAIK the Christian churches have always used syncretism to fit into whatever territories they were entering.

Syncretism might be too strong a word, as they merely co-opted the day, I don't think there were any actual doctrines adapted from the pagan world.

Actually, in one of Paul's epistles, he warns one of the churches about having too much regard for special 'days'. It's why Jehovah's Witnesses won't celebrate birthdays (although they are heretical for different reasons).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 02:40 PM (dtWKK)

254 Apropos of Halloween costumes, I'm surprised grammie winger hasn't gone looking for a Cubs uniform.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:37 PM (3C9q2)
==============================================

Heck that's my everyday attire. Wearing my Division Champs shirt even as we speak. If I wanted to scare somebody, I'd wear a Mets cap.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:41 PM (bpfzP)

255 In keeping with the tradition that Halloween costumes should be fictional, the Cubs are going as WS champs.

*Serpentine*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 22, 2016 02:43 PM (kTF2Z)

256 Here we go: http://tinyurl.com/h6ypwwa

The Jews used the Babylonian calendar under the Persians, but under the Greeks adapted that calendar toward the Greeks'.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 02:44 PM (6FqZa)

257 Speaking of churches and holidays and the Cubs, I am rolling all that into one, tomorrow morning. Rev's on vacation so we can go to any church we like, so obviously we will go to the church I pick. I don't have to wear church clothes there, and plan on showing up in jeans and a Cubs shirt. It doesn't get happier than that.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:45 PM (bpfzP)

258 I hate Progs. But at least they are loyal.

My vote for Mitt Romney is at the very top of my list of regrets.

We are at war for our civilization and "Mr. Character" betrayed us all.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 02:46 PM (Hrg+t)

259 If I wanted to scare somebody, I'd wear a Mets cap.

Much too tame to scare anyone-- how about dressing up as Mr. Met himself? (The Mets also have a Mrs. Met now, in case you want to stay cisgender).

Me, I'll go as DJ Kitty even though I'm not a Rays fan.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:47 PM (3C9q2)

260 Up here in UA, I have noticed a local realtor's billboard offering help in moving to ... Canada.

Been up for a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 22, 2016 02:47 PM (brIR5)

261 We will NOT forget, Mitt.

Traitor.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 02:47 PM (Hrg+t)

262 (The Mets also have a Mrs. Met now, in case you want to stay cisgender).

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Is that the mascot with the big giant baseball head?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:48 PM (bpfzP)

263 My regret will be more for voting Trump than Mittens.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:48 PM (sWbjH)

264 Posted by: Skip

Thats ridiculous.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 02:49 PM (Hrg+t)

265 >>>Speaking of churches and holidays and the Cubs, I am
rolling all that into one, tomorrow morning. Rev's on vacation so we
can go to any church we like, so obviously we will go to the church I
pick. I don't have to wear church clothes there, and plan on showing up
in jeans and a Cubs shirt. It doesn't get happier than that.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:45 PM (bpfzP)<<<

Probably lots of goat sacrificing at that church.

Posted by: Billy G. at October 22, 2016 02:50 PM (X/Cr2)

266 I also don't know why the Arabs went strictly lunar, but I can guess. If your culture revolves around land trade, raiding, and hunting then you don't care as much what goods are travelling the route. You care a lot more about when the moon is bright or not, to plan for raids accordingly.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 02:39 PM (6FqZa)

That's also why Mo hated dogs.

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 22, 2016 02:50 PM (brIR5)

267 Looks like it's time to go get out the vote in this county again.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 02:50 PM (6FqZa)

268 So grammie, is there a game on tonight?

(kidding)

And yes, I will be watching it. One thing interesting, even if the Cubs win, the Indians will have the home field advantage plus a much longer rest period.

Could be quite a series.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 02:51 PM (DrCtv)

269 Is that the mascot with the big giant baseball head?

Yep, and here's Mrs. Met: http://tinyurl.com/hpbvh5h

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:51 PM (3C9q2)

270 Why, Skip? If Mitt had 1/10th the fight in him that Trump has, he would be running for reelection right now. Mitt knows that his name will fade into the mist of history. I think that's what pisses him off most.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 22, 2016 02:52 PM (kTF2Z)

271 Probably lots of goat sacrificing at that church.

Posted by: Billy G. at October 22, 2016 02:50 PM (X/Cr2)
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Hey - there's a thought....

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:52 PM (bpfzP)

272 Yep, and here's Mrs. Met: http://tinyurl.com/hpbvh5h

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:51 PM (3C9q2)
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That's so wrong.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:54 PM (bpfzP)

273 And yes, I will be watching it. One thing interesting, even if the Cubs win, the Indians will have the home field advantage plus a much longer rest period.

Could be quite a series.
Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 02:51 PM (DrCtv)

------------

Many times that extended rest takes a lot of the performance edge off.

Posted by: Soona at October 22, 2016 02:54 PM (Fmupd)

274 >>>Much too tame to scare anyone-- how about dressing
up as Mr. Met himself? (The Mets also have a Mrs. Met now, in case you
want to stay cisgender).
Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2016 02:47 PM (3C9q2)<<<

**sighs** That poor guy's life will never be the same.

Posted by: Pac-Man at October 22, 2016 02:54 PM (X/Cr2)

275 One thing interesting, even if the Cubs win, the Indians will have the home field advantage plus a much longer rest period.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 02:51 PM (DrCtv)
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Positive. thoughts. Only positive thoughts.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:54 PM (bpfzP)

276 Puppys and kittahs Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:55 PM (sWbjH)

277 Romney's a fake. Always was. Total establishment prick.

And traitor.

True Colors.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 02:56 PM (Hrg+t)

278 We were in a sports bar Thursday night, watching the Cubs game. The bartender was this nice young kid, couldn't stop bouncing around, watching the game, dropping a glass, pouring a drink, bouncing, watching. He says to me "Do you know how long I've been waiting for this?!"

I wanted to clock him. He was maybe 24, tops.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 02:57 PM (bpfzP)

279 https://tinyurl.com/gpvdsqg

Anti-Hillary 'Walking Dead' Posters Surface in Los Angeles

Posted by: Evilpens at October 22, 2016 02:57 PM (y3aQB)

280
Many times that extended rest takes a lot of the performance edge off.
Posted by: Soona at October 22, 2016 02:54 PM (Fmupd)

Especially if you're on a hitting streak

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 22, 2016 02:57 PM (lKyWE)

281 Halloween is the Celtic New Year's Day, as time turns over and the crack between the Living World and the Dead World opens. Best time to talk to your dead relatives and friends. The Catholic Church made it All Soul's Day

All Hallows Eve is the vigil for the Solemnity of All Saints, not the Commemoration of the Faithful Departed (All Souls).

Posted by: Fox 2! at October 22, 2016 02:59 PM (brIR5)

282 258
My vote for Mitt Romney is at the very top of my list of regrets.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 02:46 PM (Hrg+t)
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Bah. I have zero regrets. None.
It was without a shadow of a doubt the best choice at the time.

And if Trump were elected and turned out to be a progressive a-hole, I would not regret my vote for him.
I would turn on him as an enemy, but I wouldn't regret the vote. I have to place the best bet I can now.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2016 03:00 PM (Nox3c)

283
He says to me "Do you know how long I've been waiting for this?!"I wanted to clock him. He was maybe 24, tops.

I wouldn't count the Dodgers out just yet.The Cubs are cursed

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 22, 2016 03:04 PM (lKyWE)

284 Love the Walking dead Hillary poster.
I thought of getting a Hillary poster and building a jail cell over it with a board top and bottom with black dowels between.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 03:05 PM (sWbjH)

285 This is me, ignoring (1KyWE)

Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 03:05 PM (bpfzP)

286 Posted by: Fox 2! at October 22, 2016 02:59 PM (brIR5)

Nice thing about attending Catholic School when I was growing up. If Halloween happened during the week, we had the next day off. So we could stay up late eating candy...

The public school kids otoh, had to go to school the next day.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2016 03:06 PM (DrCtv)

287 Margarita gets it right here. Seem to be two different ways of looking at a vote. One is to make it about yourself, which typically quickly leads to stuff like "I just can't look myself in the mirror ....." etc. Pretty silly, or at least mostly narcissistic and impractical.

Other way is to see your vote as just a vote (forget the fact it's meaningless in deep red or blue states, doubly meaningless in areas with lots of fraud - by definition Dem/blue areas, in reality). You have the choices you have, most of which you had little part in setting up.

I marvel at the "he/she has to earn my vote" comments here. Marvel, but don't lose sleep. Any more than I already do over the unserious, impractical, narcissistic civic culture that now substitutes for practical citizenship.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 03:06 PM (QDnY+)

288 Margarita,
So you voted against Obama.

Fine.but how.the hell do you defend what "Mr Integrity" is doing to US right now?

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 03:06 PM (Hrg+t)

289
Posted by: grammie winger at October 22, 2016 03:05 PM (bpfzP)

I want to see the Cubs in the WS too but it seems the young bartender was counting chickens before they hatch.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 22, 2016 03:09 PM (lKyWE)

290 Ugh. Tuned in to MSNBC and they were talking about the splintering of the GOP and how big that would be would depend on the magnitude of trumps loss. Assholes.

Posted by: IC at October 22, 2016 03:10 PM (gcme+)

291 Can't speak for Margarita, Mortimer, but I doubt her intent is to defend anything. She said she placed her bet when it was in front of her, as we all must do. Regret, later, over a choice you had little hand in setting up, doesn't seem to make sense.

Personally I am fairly shocked at the behavior of Mitt and others. The way you are. To the extent anything can shock me any longer. But I don't think of previous votes, I ponder just how dark things are now and in the future.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2016 03:11 PM (QDnY+)

292 Just Trump winning and seeing Leftists heads explode would be worth voting for Trump alone.

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 03:21 PM (sWbjH)

293 Well, I regret that I had to vote for him. I feel dirty now.

The betrayal I feel after being sold on his vaunted character makes me sick.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 03:21 PM (Hrg+t)

294 The one thing I always told my kids, as my parents told me, was that your vote really only counts as an individual in the primary. That is also where the interesting and financially devastating options are put on the ballot, like school board and Constitutional Amendments, and tax levies. Hah! Each and every one of my kidlets has told me how that is the hard truth and how kids all excited about presidential races are ignorant of reality. Pick your party and vote in primary elections.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 03:23 PM (MIKMs)

295 The betrayal I feel after being sold on his vaunted character makes me sick.

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone

Who exactly said his character was a selling piece?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2016 03:27 PM (V3IFq)

296 "It quotes David Plouffe, President Obama's former campaign manager: "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

Looks like we found our Man of the Year!

Posted by: Cattlecar Manufacturers of America at October 22, 2016 03:32 PM (11H2y)

297 Romney is the worst kind of corporate tool. I expected him to lose in 2012 over turnout issues. He's doing Mormonism a tremendous disservice right now by turning Utah into a possible swing state. But it always been all about Mitt.

One ex-candidate who's impressed me is Mike Huckabee. He's a stand-up guy. Haven't agreed with him on all the issues but he's a genuine good guy. Amazing that he and Bill Clinton come from the same town.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 03:37 PM (bQxkN)

298 Can you imagine if a conservative uttered the phrase "his kind..must be destroyed?"

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2016 03:46 PM (4EXZy)

299 Isn't it interesting that Orrin Hatch isn't mentioned AT ALL in the Utah stuff. How long has that old creep been playing puppetmaster? Mike Lee is the one I worry about -- Romney was and is a dead letter.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2016 03:48 PM (MIKMs)

300 263 My regret will be more for voting Trump than Mittens.
Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2016 02:48 PM (sWbjH)

Not me. I despised Romney but voted for him anyway.

I'm happily and enthusiastically voting for Trump.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 22, 2016 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

301 Enthusiasm level over time:

1992 - 70% for Perot [but wasn't a citizen then]
1996 - 55% for Dole
2000 - 50.1% for Dubya
2004 - 99% against Kerry (for Dubya)
2008 - 80% for Palin (and against Barky; about 50% for McCain)
2012 - 0%
2016 - 85% for Trump

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 04:02 PM (6FqZa)

302 288
So you voted against Obama.

Fine.but how.the hell do you defend what "Mr Integrity" is doing to US right now?

Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 03:06 PM (Hrg+t)
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I don't defend what Romney is doing now. Not in the least. But that has nothing to do with my vote in 2012.
_________________

293 Well, I regret that I had to vote for him. I feel dirty now.
The betrayal I feel after being sold on his vaunted character makes me sick.
Posted by: Mortimer's deplorable phone at October 22, 2016 03:21 PM (Hrg+t)
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I think it all comes down to how we see our votes.
For me, it's just a preference between the X and Y that I've been presented.
It's not necessary an endorsement of either one.
(See rhomboid #287)

But if you see your vote for X as a profession of faith in X, if you see it as a moral endorsement of X, I can see how you might feel "dirty" about the Romney vote now.

I don't think you're necessarily "wrong" to feel that way, BTW --- just as I don't think it's "wrong" for, say, Chemjeff to feel dirty about voting for Trump.

Yeah, okay, I may think that you guys are investing too much quasi-religious significance in the act of checking a candidate's name.
But some might argue that I don't invest enough.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2016 04:07 PM (Nox3c)

303 The sad thing about Trump's plan is that Ryan and McConnell and their ilk likely oppose 95% of it. If he gets elected they will resume undermining him and sabotaging all his efforts to pass legislation like they have during his campaign

Posted by: L, Elle at October 22, 2016 12:56 PM (6IPEM)

Trump has the capacity and will to drag them (figuratively) in front of the people and ~~humiliate~~ bulldoze them into submission. We are ready for this to happen, Kentucky is ready, the American people are ready.

McConnell, Ryan and Co. know he will make their deeds known and make them objects of LIV derision. This is why they fear him.

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 22, 2016 04:08 PM (PxTjI)

304 So it's come to this. Sheila Jackson Lee denounces Wikipedia as a Russian spy front:

"You know that I'm going to first of all denounce the utilization of this intrusion by Wikipedia through the Russian intrusion," Jackson Lee said in an interview with MSNBC on Friday.

http://tinyurl.com/hwyltg7

Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2016 04:13 PM (kD8Fh)

305 *Sheila Jackson Lee denounces Wikipedia*
Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2016 04:13 PM (kD8Fh)

Sheila identifies with her constituents.

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 22, 2016 04:16 PM (PxTjI)

306 S J Lee (D, Stupid): the utilization of this intrusion by Wikipedia through the Russian intrusion

Her brain seems to be experimenting some technorogical differences.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 22, 2016 04:18 PM (6FqZa)

307 I COULD PUSH HER FACE INTO SOME DOUGH AND MAKE GORILLA COOKIES.

Posted by: FRED SANFORD ON SJL at October 22, 2016 04:22 PM (XzRw1)

308 Holy Shith!

I looked at the detail in the recent Q poll that shows Hillary +6%. They could easily provide their demographic assumptions but don't: e.g. % college v. % non-college. e.g. % R % D % I. When a poll doesn't give this detail, I have to assume they're putting a rabbit in a hat.

But what did slip through is that this poll shows Trump getting 25% of the Black vote and Hillary only 63%!

Holy shith!

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 04:22 PM (bQxkN)

309 But some might argue that I don't invest enough.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2016 04:07 PM

Nope. Think you nailed it. Spot on.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 22, 2016 04:29 PM (Dhht7)

310 " I'm going to first of all denounce the utilization of this intrusion by Wikipedia through the Russian intrusion"
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-UVA is regularly ranked as one of the top ten law schools in the country.
-Just about ANY law degree USED to require a reasonable level of verbal proficiency.
-WTF went wrong?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2016 04:30 PM (Nox3c)

311 I'd kind of like to know who these seventeen anonymous intelligence agencies that are blaming the Russians are. Or is this just another Hillary lie?

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at October 22, 2016 04:33 PM (9iR5/)

312 Fix: the Q poll actually lumps blacks and Hispanics together, but 63% is still much lower than the 93% black / 73% hispanic vote that Obama got, and that's before you account for lower turnout

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 04:33 PM (bQxkN)

313 "I'd kind of like to know who these seventeen anonymous intelligence agencies that are blaming the Russians are. Or is this just another Hillary lie?"

You can find a list of the 17. It means that ValJar had to make 17 phone calls, including to the Coast Guard.

"The lady doth protest too much," indeed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 22, 2016 04:38 PM (bQxkN)

314

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at October 22, 2016 04:33 PM (9iR5/)

just another lie . There was a graphic that showed one of the "intelligence agencies" she cited was the Dept. of Energy. It's just all bullshit. Why should she tell the truth when every major media outlet not only publishes her lies, they amplify and embellish them.

Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2016 04:39 PM (kD8Fh)

315 From Breibart, here is the list of Donald Trump's proposals: http://preview.tinyurl.com/hpva86q .

Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 22, 2016 04:39 PM (PxTjI)

316 SJL wouldn't sound nearly as dumb if she didn't try so hard to sound smart.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 22, 2016 04:53 PM (dtWKK)

317 Nood. Chess/Open thread.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 22, 2016 04:59 PM (Dhht7)

318 Are there any effective ways to counter the forecast that there is no end in sight for academia's leftward drift?

Yes, although I recognize I'm late getting to the game here.
Two things:
1. Money. Deprive them of it. Withhold grants, donations and tuition. Send the kids elsewhere.
2. Scorn. Heap it upon them. Serve it in abundance. It will cause others to pause and for a moment, rethink the whole thing. Ultimately knock down their soapbox.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2016 06:17 PM (0tfLf)

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