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Mislaid Monday Moron Medical Monitoring Thread
I forgot to put this up yesterday.
I've got no particularly good advice. I do not know how i broke my stall. I've been drinking a lot more water -- who knows, maybe that helped. I have heard it said that while people debate this expensive supplement or that one, they ignore the cheapest and most effective supplement of all: Just water. Oh, and sleep. My sleep's been better. Not sure why. But they say that sleep is as important to getting into shape as exercise (or, well, pretty much as important). A friend and I were talking about the frustration of attempting a body recomposition (not really trying to "lose weight," exactly). It's not that things move slowly -- if they moved slowly but consistently, it would be reassuring. The problem is that nothing seems to happen for a couple of weeks, then suddenly you drop weight. Even after, say, you said "Ah the hell with this Manorexia, I want Taco Bell." It's the fact that, past the first two months, inputs and outputs seem correlated in only a slight way, if at all. I also started having more protein powder. In theory, that should slow weight loss. But then, I only have it before and after workouts, so who knows. Maybe it gets used up without turning to fat. Anyway, my gains have been very slow but are pretty consistent (consistently slow, that is) since I broke the plateau. I almost put up a Bonus Medical Monitoring post on Saturday for one reason: Because after working out I dropped to 176, the lowest weight I've seen since college. I wanted to put up a thread and say "176!" because i was pretty sure I just sweated two pounds off and it would be back by Sunday. Well it was. I'm back up to 179 but still, under 180. That was a big goal and a major reason for this thread: To keep myself going past 180 (I've been at 180 a lot) and finally get myself down to a reasonably trim 170. I guess I'm losing a pound a week now...? Or a half a pound..? And I suppose that's... something? So: TELL ME ABOUT YO GAINZZZZ, BITCHEZZZZ Holy Crap: So, for four or five months, I've been putting butter in my coffee, and MCT oil. But not blending it, as many recommended. Why? Because I'm a dude and I'm lazy and I always look to Reduce Steps and Increase Efficiency even if it means I'm drinking horrible coffee with a quarter inch pool of buttery fat on top of it. After all, Real Men do not seek comfort. It's indulgent and womanly. Real men drink disgusting coffee. Because they're Men. So, anyway, I discovered I actually had an immersion blender. I bought it a year ago at Target or something, when I had planned to start this, and never opened up the box. I started blending the coffee. Wow. Now it's no longer black coffee with a yellow pool of grease on top of it. Now it's.... well, it tastes like coffee with luscious cream in it. Now I actually enjoy coffee again instead of just wolfing down black coffee with a skin of partially melted butter. How did you goofs not insist to me I just blend it? If you're drinking it the "Ace Way," that is, the Moron Way, you're missing out. Spend $20 or $30 on an immersion blender -- you just stick it in the coffee and blend. You'll be glad you did. One thing, you have to put the coffee in a taller glass to blend (otherwise it will get sloshed around, out of the cup), but that doesn't take long. You can just rinse that glass after you use it, stick the blender in it, and set it aside for tomorrow.Comments
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Because Ace forgot the thread yesterday, I decided not to work out last week. If he's not going to motivate me, then I won't motivate myself either!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (KUaJL)
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Sick, coughing every night for hours, not getting any better
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (JfUI4)
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There comes a point where you're outgaining the fat loss with muscle add. Muscle weighs more than fat, so you stop losing weight.
You can tone your muscles without bulking up, causing them to be heavier because they're healthier. Not that you've lost all the fat you can lose, but the body will still retain a store because it can.
You can tone your muscles without bulking up, causing them to be heavier because they're healthier. Not that you've lost all the fat you can lose, but the body will still retain a store because it can.
Posted by: Sponge at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (xttKs)
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Well it was. I'm back up to 179 but still, under 180. That was a big goal and a major reason for this thread: To keep myself going past 180 (I've been at 180 a lot) and finally get myself down to a reasonably trim 170.
I guess I'm losing a pound a week now...? And I suppose that's... something?
For consistent, sustainable weight loss, a pound a week is the goal.
Congratulations, ace, that is quite the accomplishment.
I guess I'm losing a pound a week now...? And I suppose that's... something?
For consistent, sustainable weight loss, a pound a week is the goal.
Congratulations, ace, that is quite the accomplishment.
Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (mf5HN)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (uPt3V)
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My daughter who was always in good shape, lost 22 pounds after graduating from college, looks leanER, more defined. Asked her what she did differently and she said, "a lot more sleep." (She graduated from a Military Academy.)
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (U+nHb)
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I did wonder.
I was down about 3/4 pound this week, which is better than I expected. Unlike my usual IF, I ate every day, sometimes twice a day, which has become kind of hard, actually. (I mean, 'cause I'm full and haven't scaled back portions, I guess, so my previous normal fills me up.) But I wanted to try it.
This week I'm going back to more spaced out eating: Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday.
I was down about 3/4 pound this week, which is better than I expected. Unlike my usual IF, I ate every day, sometimes twice a day, which has become kind of hard, actually. (I mean, 'cause I'm full and haven't scaled back portions, I guess, so my previous normal fills me up.) But I wanted to try it.
This week I'm going back to more spaced out eating: Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (7zeA4)
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I've seen the stall-and-resume thing too. Stupid beta meat sack, as a certain fun-sized Empress might say...there is NO FAMINE you can drop the fat, it will be OK!
I can go up more stairs without my legs falling off! Also, even when my scale was telling me sad news I noticed my fitbit band needed to be tightened more holes to stay on, so yay.
I can go up more stairs without my legs falling off! Also, even when my scale was telling me sad news I noticed my fitbit band needed to be tightened more holes to stay on, so yay.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (/QLLK)
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I was mislaid once.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (8ZskC)
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Ace - Have you thought about transitioning to a maintenance diet? My body-builder co-worker is a protein freak.
His recommendations to me was start the day off with oatmeal.. then a bunch of eggs (tossing some of the yolks) mid-morning - he eats like 6 or 8.. then protein rich meats for dinner and eating veggie carbs.
Did you plan on staying in ketosis forever? I can't imagine that is good for the body long-term.
His recommendations to me was start the day off with oatmeal.. then a bunch of eggs (tossing some of the yolks) mid-morning - he eats like 6 or 8.. then protein rich meats for dinner and eating veggie carbs.
Did you plan on staying in ketosis forever? I can't imagine that is good for the body long-term.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (so+oy)
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>>>Congratulations, ace, that is quite the accomplishment.
Thanks. We'll see when the next plateau comes though.
>>>here comes a point where you're outgaining the fat loss with muscle add. Muscle weighs more than fat, so you stop losing weight.
maybe. Hard to tell. Theoretically, I *must* be gaining muscle, as I'm working out, but it's hard to tell.
Thanks. We'll see when the next plateau comes though.
>>>here comes a point where you're outgaining the fat loss with muscle add. Muscle weighs more than fat, so you stop losing weight.
maybe. Hard to tell. Theoretically, I *must* be gaining muscle, as I'm working out, but it's hard to tell.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (dciA+)
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My crazy IF observation of the week, speaking of sleep:
Do you find you need less? I seem to. I haven't figured out if there's something else going on, but I used to be able to sleep a lot more (and figured I needed it). Now I'm up after about 7.5 (or less) and seem to be fine.
Do you find you need less? I seem to. I haven't figured out if there's something else going on, but I used to be able to sleep a lot more (and figured I needed it). Now I'm up after about 7.5 (or less) and seem to be fine.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (7zeA4)
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Well my MD said I have lost 22 pounds since my last visit. Yay!
Posted by: Hillary at September 27, 2016 04:36 PM (m3iiU)
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>>>Do you find you need less? I seem to. I haven't figured out if there's something else going on, but I used to be able to sleep a lot more (and figured I needed it). Now I'm up after about 7.5 (or less) and seem to be fine.
not me. I need 8. I'd prefer 8 1/2 or 9, to be honest.
but i can't sleep that long.
not me. I need 8. I'd prefer 8 1/2 or 9, to be honest.
but i can't sleep that long.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:37 PM (dciA+)
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Ace, did that book you recommended about quitting smoking have any chapters on curbing appetite? I have not smoked a cig in 10 years but hungry all the time and gaining weight like mad.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:37 PM (mpXpK)
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For different reasons I didn't work out for 3 days. Excuse making. Worked out today and feel great, really glad I didn't let it slide any more days.
Always good advice; don't stop because you've slacked or had setbacks, just start back ASAP. You'll be glad you did.
Always good advice; don't stop because you've slacked or had setbacks, just start back ASAP. You'll be glad you did.
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 04:37 PM (U+nHb)
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>>>Ace - Have you thought about transitioning to a maintenance diet? My body-builder co-worker is a protein freak.
good heavens no, i'm nowhere near goal weight yet
good heavens no, i'm nowhere near goal weight yet
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:37 PM (dciA+)
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I'm clearly going against the horde because I'm trying to gain weight
Once I stopped being a 190 pound bitch and got up to 250 the world changed some
I'm having a hard time getting to 260
I'm 6'1"
Once I stopped being a 190 pound bitch and got up to 250 the world changed some
I'm having a hard time getting to 260
I'm 6'1"
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 04:38 PM (uPt3V)
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I picked up "Supple Leopard", Ace.
It wasn't easy. It's, like, $30 on Amazon with no electronic version. I found a site called "Storenvy" which had it for $9 in electronic (but not Kindle) format. I nervously input my CC, though, and will check it out.
Still doing the other stuff but more and more convinced mobility is my big ish.
It wasn't easy. It's, like, $30 on Amazon with no electronic version. I found a site called "Storenvy" which had it for $9 in electronic (but not Kindle) format. I nervously input my CC, though, and will check it out.
Still doing the other stuff but more and more convinced mobility is my big ish.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:38 PM (7zeA4)
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I didn't know before that, Shel Silverstein, the writer of children's books like "The Giving Tree" wrote the famous Johnny Cash song "A Boy Named Sue"
Posted by: undocumented fantasy Proctologist at September 27, 2016 04:38 PM (e8kgV)
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To lower your weight and control the muscle gain try to burn on something like a crossfit routine or PT pyramid. Don't change your intake. See how it affects your weight and adjust accordingly. Remember this is a process and changes take time to be evident.
Always, always hydrate.
Always, always hydrate.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2016 04:39 PM (XbPiz)
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good heavens no, i'm nowhere near goal weight yet
Posted by: ace
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Well, he suggested it to me for weight loss. One of the other guys here lost 20 lbs following that advice.
Posted by: ace
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Well, he suggested it to me for weight loss. One of the other guys here lost 20 lbs following that advice.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 27, 2016 04:39 PM (so+oy)
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Ace--
I used to be more of an 8.5-9 guy, too. I just noticed it seems to have dropped in the past few months and can't figure out what it might be.
When I start lifting again, we'll see if that kicks it up. Gotta sleep when you're lifting.
I used to be more of an 8.5-9 guy, too. I just noticed it seems to have dropped in the past few months and can't figure out what it might be.
When I start lifting again, we'll see if that kicks it up. Gotta sleep when you're lifting.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:39 PM (7zeA4)
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Down 12 lbs since 9/12. Now smokin' at my "perfect" weight of 187. We'll see how long this lasts once I resume the alcohol consumption.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:39 PM (8ZskC)
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>>Ace, did that book you recommended about quitting smoking have any chapters on curbing appetite? I have not smoked a cig in 10 years but hungry all the time and gaining weight like mad.
no but a bit of advice i got from IF is this:
Hunger pangs come in waves. If you ignore them, they go away in ten minutes.
One way to get rid of them is just to drink a big tall glass of water filled with lots of ice. It fills your belly, it pantomimes all the eating movements (tricking your body into thinkint it's been fed), and you need water anyway.
Drinking a big bastard of water when you're hungry can put off the next hunger pang for an hour or more.
no but a bit of advice i got from IF is this:
Hunger pangs come in waves. If you ignore them, they go away in ten minutes.
One way to get rid of them is just to drink a big tall glass of water filled with lots of ice. It fills your belly, it pantomimes all the eating movements (tricking your body into thinkint it's been fed), and you need water anyway.
Drinking a big bastard of water when you're hungry can put off the next hunger pang for an hour or more.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:40 PM (dciA+)
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I've been hitting my goal - my goal isn't a weight or size (well, under 170 I guess, I'm 175 currently), but I made it my goal to workout 5 days a week. Since it's an ongoing goal I'm trying not to bounce off that weight 'goal'.
Posted by: Memories at September 27, 2016 04:40 PM (mwcEF)
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I'm home alone for eight days so I'm hitting the gym twice a day and running every day. I hate cooking for just myself, so it's yogurt and cereal until my husband returns. Looking forward to vacation in a few weeks.
Posted by: nckate at September 27, 2016 04:40 PM (tZMK0)
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Theoretically, I *must* be gaining muscle, as I'm working out, but it's hard to tell.
I don't think strength training and dieting work together.
I don't think strength training and dieting work together.
Posted by: jd at September 27, 2016 04:41 PM (cIj06)
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>>Well, he suggested it to me for weight loss. One of the other guys here lost 20 lbs following that advice.
hm. Maybe. Who knows, maybe i'm active enough that I actually do need to eat more to... lose weight?
I don't know, doesn't really seem intuitive, but who knows.
hm. Maybe. Who knows, maybe i'm active enough that I actually do need to eat more to... lose weight?
I don't know, doesn't really seem intuitive, but who knows.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:41 PM (dciA+)
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Have we seen research that says long term ketosis is detrimental to otherwise healthy individuals?
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (U+nHb)
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but vic you should read the Easy Way to Quit Smoking anyway.
You seem to still have the psychological addiction to smoking. You say you have cravings. Plus, eating is a substitute for smoking.
Why not get rid of your psychological addiction once and for all? It's ten bucks and takes a night to read.
You seem to still have the psychological addiction to smoking. You say you have cravings. Plus, eating is a substitute for smoking.
Why not get rid of your psychological addiction once and for all? It's ten bucks and takes a night to read.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (dciA+)
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Because Ace forgot the thread yesterday, I decided not to work out last week. If he's not going to motivate me, then I won't motivate myself either!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (KUaJL)
I see someone borrowed the time machine ace totally doesn't have.
Sleep is important says the person with terrible sleeping habits. You know what the single most useful item to have in my makeup bag is? A full night's sleep. Nothing will brighten the sky and freshen the eyes better.
I've heard different information about the value of water mostly that it doesn't have to be just water, it can be any type of liquid that doesn't turn around and dehydrate you which is a polite way of saying no alcohol. Tea can be tricky because depending on the type it's causing you to evacuate more liquid than you are taking in.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (KUaJL)
I see someone borrowed the time machine ace totally doesn't have.
Sleep is important says the person with terrible sleeping habits. You know what the single most useful item to have in my makeup bag is? A full night's sleep. Nothing will brighten the sky and freshen the eyes better.
I've heard different information about the value of water mostly that it doesn't have to be just water, it can be any type of liquid that doesn't turn around and dehydrate you which is a polite way of saying no alcohol. Tea can be tricky because depending on the type it's causing you to evacuate more liquid than you are taking in.
Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (mf5HN)
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Mr A
You're on track. Fats and protein miunus refined wheat carbs = success. 2 lbs a week is the max reasonable and sustainable fat loss. that equates to a 7000 calorie deficit, which ideally is a combo of INCREASED burn and DECREASED intake. Anything else is a BS claim, unless you're febrile/sick/catabolic.
Sleep ? try B-Complex with evening meal. Good for the brain, which is metabolically active .... in some folks ... uhhh ... not myself
Ca++ and Mg++ are cousins on the periodic table, and collaborate to relax muscle and CNS activity. DO NOT TAKE a powder supplement as indicated, or you'll experience the wonders of 'decreased transit time,' or diahrrea, as we morons call it. Calms plus Calcium [ find online] ... a scant teaspoon an hour before nappy nappy works well
I also have a glass of red and a chunk of cheese an hour before ... they've done studies on elderly groups with multifactorial sleep disturbances, and a small glass of beer / wine plus cheese works better than prescription sleepers. Whodathunk ?!
Plenty of water throughout the day, of course, just stop 2-3 H before bedtime so that you don't pooch sleep with a 'call.'
Hope this helps; small payback for a great blog. Mucho Thanko
You're on track. Fats and protein miunus refined wheat carbs = success. 2 lbs a week is the max reasonable and sustainable fat loss. that equates to a 7000 calorie deficit, which ideally is a combo of INCREASED burn and DECREASED intake. Anything else is a BS claim, unless you're febrile/sick/catabolic.
Sleep ? try B-Complex with evening meal. Good for the brain, which is metabolically active .... in some folks ... uhhh ... not myself
Ca++ and Mg++ are cousins on the periodic table, and collaborate to relax muscle and CNS activity. DO NOT TAKE a powder supplement as indicated, or you'll experience the wonders of 'decreased transit time,' or diahrrea, as we morons call it. Calms plus Calcium [ find online] ... a scant teaspoon an hour before nappy nappy works well
I also have a glass of red and a chunk of cheese an hour before ... they've done studies on elderly groups with multifactorial sleep disturbances, and a small glass of beer / wine plus cheese works better than prescription sleepers. Whodathunk ?!
Plenty of water throughout the day, of course, just stop 2-3 H before bedtime so that you don't pooch sleep with a 'call.'
Hope this helps; small payback for a great blog. Mucho Thanko
Posted by: Sharp Creased Slax at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (TRUx+)
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I have spent the last two weeks doing almost nothing but updating the "Book Illustrations" page of the Mohammed Image Archive.
Boring, you say?
Well, what previously have been an almost throw-away section of random pictures of Mohammed from various books, has been transformed into a PhD-level masterpiece of scholarship documenting every known instance of Mohammed ever being depicted in any book dating as far back as 1493 A.D..
Check it out -- just uploaded the finished version moments ago:
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/book_illos/
This is all part of a larger overall update to the Mohammed Image Archive that is ongoing.
Boring, you say?
Well, what previously have been an almost throw-away section of random pictures of Mohammed from various books, has been transformed into a PhD-level masterpiece of scholarship documenting every known instance of Mohammed ever being depicted in any book dating as far back as 1493 A.D..
Check it out -- just uploaded the finished version moments ago:
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/book_illos/
This is all part of a larger overall update to the Mohammed Image Archive that is ongoing.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (jBuUi)
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Jimmy Kimmel did a bit where he asked people on the street what they thought about the debate... the night before the debate happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk4UDSlxENw
It's pretty funny, but in a sad, sad way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk4UDSlxENw
It's pretty funny, but in a sad, sad way.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (KUaJL)
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265 squat, 170 row. I'll work on bench tomorrow a along with sprints and an hour walking on the treadmill.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 27, 2016 04:43 PM (qsVN2)
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Ace, my understanding is that the body repair and detoxing occurs primarily during sleep times.
Lack of sleep leads to a buildup of bad chems in the body.
Lack of sleep leads to a buildup of bad chems in the body.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:43 PM (d6TTt)
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Good night sleep and avoiding stress are important.
if you are stressed or don't sleep well or both, your body generates cortisol.
Adds fat to your gut.
if you are stressed or don't sleep well or both, your body generates cortisol.
Adds fat to your gut.
Posted by: simplemind at September 27, 2016 04:44 PM (xVRrG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:44 PM (9P3OG)
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I have spent the last two weeks doing almost nothing but updating the "Book Illustrations" page of the Mohammed Image Archive.
Don't lose your head over this.
Don't lose your head over this.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:44 PM (8ZskC)
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I have a question for those with long-term experience in HFLC. How do you keep the fat from destroying your gall bladder? I'm wondering because I'm considering shifting to HFLC (or closer at least) but I'm concerned about the kids since by the time John was 30 he couldn't have pretty much *any* fat without becoming violently ill. Was this something unusual that probably won't affect his children? Is it one of those "No diet works for everyone" things?
With diabetes in their genetic make-up from that side of the family I prefer the idea of fat to sugar, but don't want them to have to get gall bladder surgery at young ages either if I can help it.
With diabetes in their genetic make-up from that side of the family I prefer the idea of fat to sugar, but don't want them to have to get gall bladder surgery at young ages either if I can help it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 04:45 PM (GDulk)
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Oh, and a heavy meal before sleeping is never a good idea.
Weight gain.
Weight gain.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:46 PM (d6TTt)
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I dropped 30 pounds with HFLC at a rate of one to two pounds per week, and then just stopped losing right where I needed to be. It was amazing. I have maintained that for over a year. (No exercise to speak of during that time.)
I started weight training with a good training partner four weeks ago. I have gotten a lot leaner and gained four pounds. My waist is trimmer, my abs are visible, and shoulders are much bigger and more defined. Today, I did 3x5 on bench press with 10 pounds under bodyweight. My squat is weak due to knee surgery over the summer, but I'm working on it. I haven't The only nutrition change I have consciously made is that I eat a can of sardines in olive oil once I get to the office after lifting. My goal is to hit one set of 5 with bodyweight next week.
I started weight training with a good training partner four weeks ago. I have gotten a lot leaner and gained four pounds. My waist is trimmer, my abs are visible, and shoulders are much bigger and more defined. Today, I did 3x5 on bench press with 10 pounds under bodyweight. My squat is weak due to knee surgery over the summer, but I'm working on it. I haven't The only nutrition change I have consciously made is that I eat a can of sardines in olive oil once I get to the office after lifting. My goal is to hit one set of 5 with bodyweight next week.
Posted by: dogsandhogs at September 27, 2016 04:46 PM (akUBu)
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Still stuck on too much coffee and not enough exercise here. Need to change jobs.
Still stuck on too much coffee and not enough exercise here. Need to change jobs.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:46 PM (oGNNA)
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Polliwog, is HFLC high fat low carb?
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:46 PM (d6TTt)
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A pound a week is the perfect rate of weight loss, based on experience, and what my old timer doctor has told me for years. And it's not as hard as it seems. Most of this shit is mental. Just push away from the extra portion of ice cream, that extra couple of beers, or that extra pile of macaroni and cheese every day, and you'll more than likely lose a pound a week without busting ass. Give it a try. I've lost 20 - 22 lbs since early April this way. Slow and low, like cooking a brisket daddio.
Posted by: Pipe Holder at September 27, 2016 04:47 PM (Z/diL)
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TELL ME ABOUT YO GAINZZZZ, BITCHEZZZZ
Posted by: Ace at 04:25 PM
Finally! Someone's addressing the sexism and non-inclusiveness of this blog!
:-D
TELL ME ABOUT YO GAINZZZZ, BITCHEZZZZ
Posted by: Ace at 04:25 PM
Finally! Someone's addressing the sexism and non-inclusiveness of this blog!
:-D
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 04:47 PM (ar2KI)
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Belly fat is a leading reason for heartburn and acid reflux.
Fun fact.
Fun fact.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (d6TTt)
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I, for one, do not buy the "2 pound a week max" except as a very broad rule-of-thumb on the level of the BMI.
There is no way that a 120# woman and a 240# man have the same reasonable weight loss maximum. There just isn't. There's no way that a person with 3% body fat can lose as much as a person with 50% body fat.
And what are you supposed to do with that information anyway? You don't really know how much you're losing per week. If it averages out to 3 pounds/week, do you panic and start eating more, regardless of other indicators? If it averages out to 1/2 pounds/week, do you berate yourself?
It just seems like one of those stupid rules that gets repeated because it's easy. Like that bro-science one "The body can only process 50g/protein for any given meal."
There is no way that a 120# woman and a 240# man have the same reasonable weight loss maximum. There just isn't. There's no way that a person with 3% body fat can lose as much as a person with 50% body fat.
And what are you supposed to do with that information anyway? You don't really know how much you're losing per week. If it averages out to 3 pounds/week, do you panic and start eating more, regardless of other indicators? If it averages out to 1/2 pounds/week, do you berate yourself?
It just seems like one of those stupid rules that gets repeated because it's easy. Like that bro-science one "The body can only process 50g/protein for any given meal."
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:49 PM (7zeA4)
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Ace, my understanding is that the body repair and detoxing occurs primarily during sleep times.
Lack of sleep leads to a buildup of bad chems in the body.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:43 PM (d6TTt)
I read a great piece about one of the main sleep researchers, we're taking a guy who pioneered a lot of the field, and he admitted that after nearly 40 years of study, he still has no idea why the body and brain need sleep. We know that we do, but why sleep, specifically, is still a mystery.
I thought it was a very humble comment and also shows how very little we know about these stupid beta meat sacks.
Lack of sleep leads to a buildup of bad chems in the body.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:43 PM (d6TTt)
I read a great piece about one of the main sleep researchers, we're taking a guy who pioneered a lot of the field, and he admitted that after nearly 40 years of study, he still has no idea why the body and brain need sleep. We know that we do, but why sleep, specifically, is still a mystery.
I thought it was a very humble comment and also shows how very little we know about these stupid beta meat sacks.
Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 27, 2016 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
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We probably should all eat like pigs.
Natures perfect omnivores.
Our dentition is very similar.
Some of everything.
Just not so much.
Eat like pigs, but don't be a pig about it.
Natures perfect omnivores.
Our dentition is very similar.
Some of everything.
Just not so much.
Eat like pigs, but don't be a pig about it.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:50 PM (d6TTt)
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Come to me, ace...
Posted by: Shylock at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (iFgwk)
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Haven't weighed myself, but will tonight when I make a long-delayed return to the gym. However, I'm now able to get into my old 38" waist pants, down from 42" in February.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (zc3Db)
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http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/book_illos/
This is all part of a larger overall update to the Mohammed Image Archive that is ongoing.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (jBuUi)
I wonder if I dare link to it from my blog as part of banned book week
I'm kind of chicken shit about wacky jihadis targeting me
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/book_illos/
This is all part of a larger overall update to the Mohammed Image Archive that is ongoing.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (jBuUi)
I wonder if I dare link to it from my blog as part of banned book week
I'm kind of chicken shit about wacky jihadis targeting me
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (Om16U)
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My last great diet/fitness kick, the losses got so regular, two lbs a month, that I was able to predict that in 12 months I would be down to my ideal. And I was. I have never been so fit in my life, biking and xc skiing and hiking.
Then I got involved in local politics, then blogging. Sitting there writing and publishing and fixing shit over and over for hours didn't do much for my health.
Oh, and banquets and luncheons and crap. Those didn't help either.
Then I got involved in local politics, then blogging. Sitting there writing and publishing and fixing shit over and over for hours didn't do much for my health.
Oh, and banquets and luncheons and crap. Those didn't help either.
Posted by: Jeanne del norte blanco muy grande at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (2VJ4e)
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However, I'm now able to get into my old 38" waist pants, down from 42" in February.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (GUBah)
Good job. Congrats.
Belly fat, the bane of men.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (GUBah)
Good job. Congrats.
Belly fat, the bane of men.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (d6TTt)
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Speaking of fitness I just had some cheesecake and whipped cream...Didn't suck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (Ozsfq)
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The way Cankles eyes looked last night I was waiting for Bob Marley to come out and offer her another Doobie !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (NuElX)
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I'm kind of chicken shit about wacky jihadis targeting me
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (Om16U)
Yeah, votermom, step lightly.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (Om16U)
Yeah, votermom, step lightly.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:53 PM (d6TTt)
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Getting a headache coz I need more sleep
I'm thinking of buying collagen - I read somewhere that verisol and biocell are two kinds that actually have an effect
I'm thinking of buying collagen - I read somewhere that verisol and biocell are two kinds that actually have an effect
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 04:53 PM (Om16U)
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However, I'm now able to get into my old 38" waist pants, down from 42" in February.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (GUBah)
Good job. Congrats.
Belly fat, the bane of men.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (d6TTt)
I went from a 36 to a 31
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 04:51 PM (GUBah)
Good job. Congrats.
Belly fat, the bane of men.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (d6TTt)
I went from a 36 to a 31
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (Ozsfq)
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Polliwog--
I think you can still do the HFLC, just not as extreme on the H and L, and maybe a little more protein. The Boy (my son, who is diabetic) is cautious because of the diabetes, of course, but also because high-fat can upset his stomach fast.
As for length of time, I've mentioned that my oldest was on the ketogenic diet for epilepsy for 6-7 years, and it was WAY more extreme than anything we're talking about here. She's had no ill effects from it. (And there are many such kids you can research on the 'net, if you want more anecdotal evidence.)
I think you can still do the HFLC, just not as extreme on the H and L, and maybe a little more protein. The Boy (my son, who is diabetic) is cautious because of the diabetes, of course, but also because high-fat can upset his stomach fast.
As for length of time, I've mentioned that my oldest was on the ketogenic diet for epilepsy for 6-7 years, and it was WAY more extreme than anything we're talking about here. She's had no ill effects from it. (And there are many such kids you can research on the 'net, if you want more anecdotal evidence.)
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (7zeA4)
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It's not about the weight, it's about the shape of where the weight is distributed and the composition of the poundage.
Take, for example, abrasive rapper-skank Nicki Minaj. She's only about 5'5", and volumetrically, if you just measure her as a bag of flesh, she is very substantial -- her ass is gigantic, her thighs are thundrous, and her books are immensely ponderous. I wouldn't be surprised if she weighed 165, 170 pounds at least.
YET, she is considered by her many fans and admirers as supremely attractive, because all that flesh and fat are in exactly the right places: big hips and tits, skinny waist and face and ankles.
Conversely, there are any number of meth whores out there who at 5'5" weigh no more than 90 pounds, and yet they look like shit because their muscles are all caved-in and they have no "tone."
To paraphrase the Beastie Boys,
"We need body-shaping, not perfection."
Take, for example, abrasive rapper-skank Nicki Minaj. She's only about 5'5", and volumetrically, if you just measure her as a bag of flesh, she is very substantial -- her ass is gigantic, her thighs are thundrous, and her books are immensely ponderous. I wouldn't be surprised if she weighed 165, 170 pounds at least.
YET, she is considered by her many fans and admirers as supremely attractive, because all that flesh and fat are in exactly the right places: big hips and tits, skinny waist and face and ankles.
Conversely, there are any number of meth whores out there who at 5'5" weigh no more than 90 pounds, and yet they look like shit because their muscles are all caved-in and they have no "tone."
To paraphrase the Beastie Boys,
"We need body-shaping, not perfection."
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (jBuUi)
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I'm surprised someone is not socking Dom Mazetti yet
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (uPt3V)
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I've weighed in at 215lbs for nearly 3o years and I'm good with it.
Posted by: Dick at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Miss Universe 1996 at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (8ZskC)
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I no longer have a "craving" for a cigarette, just every now and then it will hit but I can ignore it and it will go away. Not so with being hungry. And I do drink water constantly all day long.
My problem with weight gain started after I quit smoking, then got cancer. Before cancer I walked two miles every morning. Now I have chemo-induced neuropathy that makes walking painful. So eating more than 2,000 cal a day and no 2 mile walk is putting on the weight.
Oh, well. I guess being fat is more healthy than smoking 4 packs a day which is what I was up to when I quit.
My problem with weight gain started after I quit smoking, then got cancer. Before cancer I walked two miles every morning. Now I have chemo-induced neuropathy that makes walking painful. So eating more than 2,000 cal a day and no 2 mile walk is putting on the weight.
Oh, well. I guess being fat is more healthy than smoking 4 packs a day which is what I was up to when I quit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (mpXpK)
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Polliwog the 'Ette:
I have no gall bladder and I have not even noticed it is gone. I've been HFLC too. I think it is an individual thing, how the gall bladder is used in digestion. In discussions pre-removal, nobody mentioned eating too much fat was ever a concern in causing the issues. Now, gall bladder problems *can* be hereditary, which is why I was happy to wave it goodbye. My mom had the equivalent of a sack of marbles when she had hers out, and I did NOT want that to happen to me. (And her doctor had her on a "if you even see fat, cross the street and avoid" diet until the surgery, but that was because any activity at all could have ruptured the damn thing).
I have no gall bladder and I have not even noticed it is gone. I've been HFLC too. I think it is an individual thing, how the gall bladder is used in digestion. In discussions pre-removal, nobody mentioned eating too much fat was ever a concern in causing the issues. Now, gall bladder problems *can* be hereditary, which is why I was happy to wave it goodbye. My mom had the equivalent of a sack of marbles when she had hers out, and I did NOT want that to happen to me. (And her doctor had her on a "if you even see fat, cross the street and avoid" diet until the surgery, but that was because any activity at all could have ruptured the damn thing).
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (/QLLK)
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I have zero clinical evidence to back this up, but more important than how much you squat is doing squats in the first place. When was the last time you did more than one set of squats at any weight and your glutes weren't sore from it?
I work out first thing in the morning and by the time my head hits the pillow at night it's a struggle to even turn the light out.
I work out first thing in the morning and by the time my head hits the pillow at night it's a struggle to even turn the light out.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (mrfTe)
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (jBuUi)
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So is it to be expected that as I near my goal.weight I get hungrier during fasting. Like at 10am I'm ready to eat someone alive now. But if I wait it out I'm good until noon.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (Om16U)
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I lost a little over 20 so far by eating no more than 2k calories a day, intermittent fasting, watching what I ate, eliminating soda 5 days a week, and working out (weights and cardio).
BTW, two days a week I eat/drink whatever I want.
BTW, two days a week I eat/drink whatever I want.
Posted by: Hillary at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (uhftQ)
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I went from a 36 to a 31
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (Ozsfq)
That's pretty narrow. How tall are you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (Ozsfq)
That's pretty narrow. How tall are you?
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:46 PM (d6TTt)
Yes. In John's case apparently the bile that breaks down fat had become exhausted so he couldn't digest it *at all*. He'd been overweight even as a teen (which the kids aren't) and that may have affected it. I'm hoping someone has information that would help me decide whether to go ahead and try this or else decide that it may not be the best choice for our particular family.
Yes. In John's case apparently the bile that breaks down fat had become exhausted so he couldn't digest it *at all*. He'd been overweight even as a teen (which the kids aren't) and that may have affected it. I'm hoping someone has information that would help me decide whether to go ahead and try this or else decide that it may not be the best choice for our particular family.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 04:56 PM (GDulk)
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A nude pic of Lena Dunham, taped to the refrigerator door, ought to be a cheap and effective way of discouraging excessive eating.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2016 04:56 PM (o9m/V)
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Speaking of Medical:
As Peres's condition deteriorates, his family comes to visit one last time
Former President Shimon Peres is currently surrounded by his loved ones and close friends; after a degradation in his medical condition, it was decided that he will not be kept alive via artificial means; he is expected to pass in the coming hours.
As Peres's condition deteriorates, his family comes to visit one last time
Former President Shimon Peres is currently surrounded by his loved ones and close friends; after a degradation in his medical condition, it was decided that he will not be kept alive via artificial means; he is expected to pass in the coming hours.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:57 PM (Ozsfq)
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LincolnTF once again ejaculates his theories on us.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:57 PM (dciA+)
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Look out! Rosie O is pissed off!
Trump has previously described O'Donnell as "dumb," "disgusting," "a slob," who has a "fat, ugly face."
She called him the "Orange anus".
Trump has previously described O'Donnell as "dumb," "disgusting," "a slob," who has a "fat, ugly face."
She called him the "Orange anus".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:57 PM (Nwg0u)
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71 messages before we got the "You all are stupid. Do what has been scientifically proven to fail, over and over again. The conventional wisdom is always right!" post. Record?
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 04:57 PM (7zeA4)
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That's pretty narrow. How tall are you?
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
5'7 and 1/2...don't forget the 1/2
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
5'7 and 1/2...don't forget the 1/2
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
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A few years ago sustained a foot injury and got in the best shape in years, due to being on crutches. I realized that each step I was taking required dead lifting a good part of my body weight. The Frankenboot I had to wear for six weeks after the cast came off just kept the slimming and toning happenning.
Then my foot healed and it wasn't long before, HELLO Muffin Top, HOW YOU DOIN'? occurred.
So I started back to the gym. And although I am in a love/hate relationship with the experience, I have to say there must be some truth to the "muscle memory" theory. I am doing minimal work and already seeing the softness and doughiness replaced by lean hard sinew.
OK that's a bit of an overstatement, but I am noticing GAINZZZZ and that's what's going to keep my fat ass going until I'm back in a size 6.
Then my foot healed and it wasn't long before, HELLO Muffin Top, HOW YOU DOIN'? occurred.
So I started back to the gym. And although I am in a love/hate relationship with the experience, I have to say there must be some truth to the "muscle memory" theory. I am doing minimal work and already seeing the softness and doughiness replaced by lean hard sinew.
OK that's a bit of an overstatement, but I am noticing GAINZZZZ and that's what's going to keep my fat ass going until I'm back in a size 6.
Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (nNdYv)
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (uPt3V)
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That's pretty narrow. How tall are you?
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
That's his height!
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
That's his height!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
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Lincoln, you're a fucking idiot. I've lost thirty pounds in five months.
You're just some jagoff who has never bothered actually DOING a thing but has all these theories based on entirely-theoretical understandings of things.
What other things have you never done which you wish to share your expertise about?
You're just some jagoff who has never bothered actually DOING a thing but has all these theories based on entirely-theoretical understandings of things.
What other things have you never done which you wish to share your expertise about?
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (dciA+)
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I got basically nothing to add, here. But I've starting drinking Rooibos (I have no idea how to pronounce that)--loose-leaf red and green, too--instead of things are less good for us. Seems to have no downsides. Maybe that would give you some variety from straight-up water.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (/4GEs)
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That's pretty narrow. How tall are you?
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
That's his height!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
But I have been called narrow minded and worse
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
That's his height!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
But I have been called narrow minded and worse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Ozsfq)
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yes Lincoln, it's specifically a thread for DOERS and not couch potatoes who have some Theories they'd like to share.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (dciA+)
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I plateaued for probably close to two months and then I quit paying particular to my diet and things like the time I ate, etc. I have since lost eight pounds and that puts my total from Jan 1 at 53 lbs. I'm much fitter, but a shoulder problem that is annoyingly persistent has frustrated my activities in the gym. I've had to basically invent (I know others have done the exercises, but they are not exercises that are common) most of my upper body stuff. I think my ideal weight is still roughly 15 lbs lighter, but we'll see how this plays out. I wouldn't mind keeping a bit more weight if I could transform it into muscle. Overall, I am extremely satisfied, at my age (63) and where I have journeyed from (functionally a cripple in Aug 15), to be where I'm at. I don't think many people get to experience this type of turnaround in their life. I still have a hard time believing that it all started with a 180 degree change in my attitude.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (4ng05)
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As of today I am down 31.8 pounds since July 7. Just before the weekend I was down a full 34 pounds so not sure what happened there. I kept disciplined over the weekend. I did drink a glass of red wine on Saturday night but hot damn that should not have kicked in 2+ pounds of insulin resistance. I am setting my goals 5 pounds at a time so my next big mark will be to hit that full 35 pound mark. When I finally hit the 50 pound mark I am going to buy an expensive bottle of scotch to reward myself.
Oh - and I have hit the last notch on my belt. A few more pounds and I'll have to add a new notch. Any Austin area folks have a leather punch I can borrow? ;-)
Oh - and I have hit the last notch on my belt. A few more pounds and I'll have to add a new notch. Any Austin area folks have a leather punch I can borrow? ;-)
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (SUtNI)
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But I have been called narrow minded and worse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Ozsfq)
When you get thrown in the camps you can always slip through the bars.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Ozsfq)
When you get thrown in the camps you can always slip through the bars.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 04:54 PM (jBuUi)
That's why I really do need to start exercising. If I just eat less I lose weight in my face first, and no one actually needs cheekbones that can cut glass.
That's why I really do need to start exercising. If I just eat less I lose weight in my face first, and no one actually needs cheekbones that can cut glass.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (GDulk)
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Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 04:56 PM (GDulk)
I confess I'm old school meaning a good balance of foods.
With an eye to avoiding foods that obviously have an adverse individual effect.
So- lots of commentors are prolly more knowledgable than I, but my take is adopt a diet that YOU evaluate, by trial and error.
And, something you can adhere to.
Probably not too helpful. Sorry.
I confess I'm old school meaning a good balance of foods.
With an eye to avoiding foods that obviously have an adverse individual effect.
So- lots of commentors are prolly more knowledgable than I, but my take is adopt a diet that YOU evaluate, by trial and error.
And, something you can adhere to.
Probably not too helpful. Sorry.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (d6TTt)
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votermom--
I'm curious about that, too. Some people are shocked about the lengths of my fasts, but I figure, y'know, as long as I got excess fat on me, why should I even be hungry?
But this necessarily means that at SOME point, I'm gonna start chewing the furniture on one of these 2-3 day fasts. I'll let you know how it goes.
I'm curious about that, too. Some people are shocked about the lengths of my fasts, but I figure, y'know, as long as I got excess fat on me, why should I even be hungry?
But this necessarily means that at SOME point, I'm gonna start chewing the furniture on one of these 2-3 day fasts. I'll let you know how it goes.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (7zeA4)
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So my birthday is on the horizon and kid wants to know what kind of cake I want since I'm lowcarb.
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (Om16U)
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does Levi's do vanity sizing??
I thought I'd get a pair of jeans. Got my exact waist size (straight from a measurement).
They were four inches too big. Enormous in the belly.
It makes me think when Levi's says "34" they really mean "38, but we want you to feel good about it."
I thought I'd get a pair of jeans. Got my exact waist size (straight from a measurement).
They were four inches too big. Enormous in the belly.
It makes me think when Levi's says "34" they really mean "38, but we want you to feel good about it."
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (dciA+)
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Still in IF. Someone said I was looking better and I have lost that double chin threat, though I still have the midwestern moonface. For now. Some day, I WILL look like my brother or my cousin Rick 
Honestly, it's been the best, easiest diet I've ever had. If I could stop drinking Coke and Pepsi, I'm sure I'd lose more.
I will say that I drink a heck of a lot more water now, especially in the morning.
Honestly, it's been the best, easiest diet I've ever had. If I could stop drinking Coke and Pepsi, I'm sure I'd lose more.
I will say that I drink a heck of a lot more water now, especially in the morning.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (hR1Jj)
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IF, actual research shows something works better than HFLC, I'll be willing to try it. Why not? This is about feeling/looking better, not about being right.
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (U+nHb)
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i salute your goal ace but 180 for a guy seems good.
Posted by: concrete girl at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (UU5Wy)
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I've lost 18 pounds since 6/1/16. I've simply been using the Lose It app on my phone to track my calorie intake and exercise. It's been the easiest weight loss of my life. Unfortunately I have another 67(!) pounds to go, but it's a start.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (E1Cat)
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>>>98 Yeah, Ace, once again you've gone nuts on me, based on what? 2 or 3 posts that questioned the "Health by Trendiness" phenomenon? So it's cool for people to share what works for them health-wise on these threads, as long as they don't contradict your current fad-diet?
goodbye forever, fat guy sitting around on his couch pontificating at people as his method of cardio.
I never liked you and I'm glad to see the back of you.
goodbye forever, fat guy sitting around on his couch pontificating at people as his method of cardio.
I never liked you and I'm glad to see the back of you.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:03 PM (dciA+)
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104 i salute your goal ace but 180 for a guy seems good.
Posted by: concrete girl at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (UU5Wy)
Ewoks are not known for height
Posted by: concrete girl at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (UU5Wy)
Ewoks are not known for height
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (Om16U)
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I see a personal trainer once a week. When I interviewed him he told me he thought cardio was a joke for weight loss, that any more than 8 reps means you need to move up in weight. That refined carbs were poison and there's no way to eat too much protein. Rippetoe is his God.
He said. I keep telling him there's no way we're going to burn enough calories in a half-hour to matter, that lifting heavy to build muscle is the only way to keep burning fat after I leave the gym. He nods then tell me to do 4 sets of 10 box jumps.
No matter how they train themselves and no matter what they learned to procure the elusive Exercise Science degree from their cow college, they can't shake off the Lincolntf garbage of the last century, which I call the Pork Years.
He said. I keep telling him there's no way we're going to burn enough calories in a half-hour to matter, that lifting heavy to build muscle is the only way to keep burning fat after I leave the gym. He nods then tell me to do 4 sets of 10 box jumps.
No matter how they train themselves and no matter what they learned to procure the elusive Exercise Science degree from their cow college, they can't shake off the Lincolntf garbage of the last century, which I call the Pork Years.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (mrfTe)
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Ace!
Yes! they started vanity sizing in the '90s! George Carlin did a bit about it: "Relaxed fit jeans" and "too many kwaSANTS". You can't trust the waist measurement on men's pants anymore.
Yes! they started vanity sizing in the '90s! George Carlin did a bit about it: "Relaxed fit jeans" and "too many kwaSANTS". You can't trust the waist measurement on men's pants anymore.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (7zeA4)
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>>>104 i salute your goal ace but 180 for a guy seems good.
nah. 180 is my natural weight, where my body wants to be.
The trouble is, my body wants to be fat.
I don't want it to be fat.
180 is the weight where I'm fat but you wouldn't necessarily call me fat. But I am.
I don't want to be fat. I'm done with it.
Gonna get to 170.
nah. 180 is my natural weight, where my body wants to be.
The trouble is, my body wants to be fat.
I don't want it to be fat.
180 is the weight where I'm fat but you wouldn't necessarily call me fat. But I am.
I don't want to be fat. I'm done with it.
Gonna get to 170.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (dciA+)
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Thanks to all of the 'foam roller people' again for the recommendation.
I'm mostly healed from my injury. I'm sitting in chairs with only some pain. And today, I'm trying not to take any medication at all. Several weeks of muscle relaxants made me sooo not productive.
I'm finishing a project I started, I'm going to have a few days of drinking and then I'll start back on exercising again.
I'm mostly healed from my injury. I'm sitting in chairs with only some pain. And today, I'm trying not to take any medication at all. Several weeks of muscle relaxants made me sooo not productive.
I'm finishing a project I started, I'm going to have a few days of drinking and then I'll start back on exercising again.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (/NlFx)
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My gainz have actually been losses as in Ive lost 20lbs.
This is all in an effort to do a lean bulk throughout the winter.
And get to a lean 200lbs for next spring.
This is all in an effort to do a lean bulk throughout the winter.
And get to a lean 200lbs for next spring.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (618bx)
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Niiiiice, Texas Zombie. That's the kind of motivation I need!
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (U+nHb)
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goodbye forever, fat guy sitting around on his couch pontificating at people as his method of cardio.
LOL
My gain is that I only are one delicious ginger lemon cookie instead of more. ;^)
LOL
My gain is that I only are one delicious ginger lemon cookie instead of more. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (EnGQE)
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I used to buy into the "just eat less and move more" theory of weight loss. I would do it and at best, I would lose a pound or two after a week of starving myself and obsessing about food. There was no way I would lose 30 lbs. that way.
It took the Dukan diet to persuade me otherwise. High protein, low fat and almost no carbs. I stuck to "phase one" religiously for a week before I first stepped on a scale. When I did I was stunned to find that I had lost 13 lbs. in 7 days. I went on to lose the entire thirty in about four and a half weeks.
Since then, for me carb control has been everything. If I can keep the carbs below 40 grams a day, nothing else matters. The weight will stay off.
It took the Dukan diet to persuade me otherwise. High protein, low fat and almost no carbs. I stuck to "phase one" religiously for a week before I first stepped on a scale. When I did I was stunned to find that I had lost 13 lbs. in 7 days. I went on to lose the entire thirty in about four and a half weeks.
Since then, for me carb control has been everything. If I can keep the carbs below 40 grams a day, nothing else matters. The weight will stay off.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (8ZskC)
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The conventional wisdom for cotton 501s use to be -1in the waist / -2 " in length. So a 36" x 32" on the shelf is a 35" x 30" after washing.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (V+C3K)
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Latest tally:
Since July 5, I'm down 53 lbs. size 34 waist. I haven't been in a size 34 waist since college.
Stick with it. This IF and LCHF works. Like crazy. Supplement it with exercise. Walk. Take the stairs. It may seem too minor to work, but it does.
Since July 5, I'm down 53 lbs. size 34 waist. I haven't been in a size 34 waist since college.
Stick with it. This IF and LCHF works. Like crazy. Supplement it with exercise. Walk. Take the stairs. It may seem too minor to work, but it does.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (qcCvJ)
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Lincoln, go fuck yourself, not just for being an asshole here, but for generally being one of those braying cunts who haunts the internet inflicting his menagerie of cocked-up opinions on everyone about everything.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (7zeA4)
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Did Lincolntf comments get nuked?
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (QxhSw)
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>>> Thanks to all of the 'foam roller people' again for the recommendation.
works for headaches too. try it.
generally there's a lot of strain in your neck and head muscles (the ones at the base of your skull). It's relaxing to work them out a little.
works for headaches too. try it.
generally there's a lot of strain in your neck and head muscles (the ones at the base of your skull). It's relaxing to work them out a little.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (7zeA4)
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Sorry, Ace, is this a closed thread for those who don't want to actually be fit?
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (2cS/G)
I am extremely skeptical of many of the claims of the diet gurus...Taubes included (I think he is an opportunist). The research simply isn't complete.
But....the accumulating research seems to indicate that fat is not the evil that was once suggested by many, and that carbohydrates -- simple ones in particular -- should probably be limited.
However, research describes populations, not individuals, and human physiology is so incredibly complex (AtC just pointed out upthread that science has no idea why we sleep) that to generalize is very dangerous. Maybe in a few generations we will have enough of the basic physiology down that we can start prescribing diets for individuals.
That being said...it's a thread for people who are interested in this stuff; not a thread to poo-poo it.
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 27, 2016 04:58 PM (2cS/G)
I am extremely skeptical of many of the claims of the diet gurus...Taubes included (I think he is an opportunist). The research simply isn't complete.
But....the accumulating research seems to indicate that fat is not the evil that was once suggested by many, and that carbohydrates -- simple ones in particular -- should probably be limited.
However, research describes populations, not individuals, and human physiology is so incredibly complex (AtC just pointed out upthread that science has no idea why we sleep) that to generalize is very dangerous. Maybe in a few generations we will have enough of the basic physiology down that we can start prescribing diets for individuals.
That being said...it's a thread for people who are interested in this stuff; not a thread to poo-poo it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (Zu3d9)
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>>>116 Did Lincolntf comments get nuked?
YUUUUP!
I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
YUUUUP!
I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (dciA+)
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I've lost 18 pounds since 6/1/16. I've simply been using the Lose It app on my phone to track my calorie intake and exercise. It's been the easiest weight loss of my life. Unfortunately I have another 67(!) pounds to go, but it's a start.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (E1Cat)
Keep at it. No unfortunately about it. Just keep the goal in mind and don't lose sight of it. Also, don't let the occasional plateau get you down. Just keep doing what you know is the right thing and you'll realize that is just the nature of the beast.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (E1Cat)
Keep at it. No unfortunately about it. Just keep the goal in mind and don't lose sight of it. Also, don't let the occasional plateau get you down. Just keep doing what you know is the right thing and you'll realize that is just the nature of the beast.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (4ng05)
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does Levi's do vanity sizing??
I think Levis sizing has just gotten haphazard. I was a died-in-the-wool levis wearer all my life until they started doing funky things with their jeans back about 5 years ago. It was probably even longer ago but I buy jeans in bulk purchases once every 5 or 7 years.
Anyway, they changed the cuts. THey changed the material. THey changed pretty much everything. And the prices got silly. I looked around, bought a pair of wranglers, which were cheap as hell, great fit, good denim ... wore them for a test and went back and bought 8 pairs.
No more levis for me. Levis quality control is a bottomless pit of failure.
I think Levis sizing has just gotten haphazard. I was a died-in-the-wool levis wearer all my life until they started doing funky things with their jeans back about 5 years ago. It was probably even longer ago but I buy jeans in bulk purchases once every 5 or 7 years.
Anyway, they changed the cuts. THey changed the material. THey changed pretty much everything. And the prices got silly. I looked around, bought a pair of wranglers, which were cheap as hell, great fit, good denim ... wore them for a test and went back and bought 8 pairs.
No more levis for me. Levis quality control is a bottomless pit of failure.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (zc3Db)
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Ace,
I'm sure others have probably told you this before, but it's not the weight that you want to look at, ultimately. If you're working out and eating better, and your body fat is diminishing,you're replacing it with muscle, which weighs more than fat. As you get into better shape and your muscles gain more mass, as opposed to body fat, then you're simply going to weigh more, it's facts. Concentrate more on how you feel, even for the narcissistic side of you, how you look, over how much you weigh! If you look good, you feel good, if you feel good then it's on like Donkey Kong!
I'm sure others have probably told you this before, but it's not the weight that you want to look at, ultimately. If you're working out and eating better, and your body fat is diminishing,you're replacing it with muscle, which weighs more than fat. As you get into better shape and your muscles gain more mass, as opposed to body fat, then you're simply going to weigh more, it's facts. Concentrate more on how you feel, even for the narcissistic side of you, how you look, over how much you weigh! If you look good, you feel good, if you feel good then it's on like Donkey Kong!
Posted by: chefwes at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (LNFFz)
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LincolnTF, banned for being an asshole about dieting? I did not see that coming.
Granted, I thought for sure he'd get banned like a year ago on a Civil War thread when he (presumably drunk) went all "YANKEES RAPED YOUR GRANDMA AND SHE LIKED IT" crazy.
Granted, I thought for sure he'd get banned like a year ago on a Civil War thread when he (presumably drunk) went all "YANKEES RAPED YOUR GRANDMA AND SHE LIKED IT" crazy.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (eXSOZ)
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Holding at 162lb plus or minus 2lbs, waist still slightly shrinking, shoulders and back showing good muscle gain. I can finally do 4 sets of 6 chin-ups. When I started working out and Keto in February at 195lbs, I couldn't do a single chin-up.
Posted by: Pete at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (c1Ymx)
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Here is something I learned
I addded a bunch of muscle
Muscle needs a lot of energy
I do not have to be nearly as carefull at 250 as I was at 190 on what I eat
I will loose at if I miss a meal
I addded a bunch of muscle
Muscle needs a lot of energy
I do not have to be nearly as carefull at 250 as I was at 190 on what I eat
I will loose at if I miss a meal
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (uPt3V)
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Yeah, he just got banned. I got into it with him the other day and I will not miss him.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (mpXpK)
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ace, I hear you about your body wanting to be a certain weight.
Mine wants to be 175. But, my body is an asshole that wants to sit around and do nothing.
So, I beat him up by walking 3 miles a day, and also biking, paddleboarding, or anything to get off my ass.
Then-- I eat 4 meals a day, not large, and never after 7 pm.
I eat whatever, but small amounts, 4 or 5 hundred calories.
I can keep my weight at around 165 or so.
Not a huge difference, but it means a lot to me.
Hope this is helpful and positive.
Mine wants to be 175. But, my body is an asshole that wants to sit around and do nothing.
So, I beat him up by walking 3 miles a day, and also biking, paddleboarding, or anything to get off my ass.
Then-- I eat 4 meals a day, not large, and never after 7 pm.
I eat whatever, but small amounts, 4 or 5 hundred calories.
I can keep my weight at around 165 or so.
Not a huge difference, but it means a lot to me.
Hope this is helpful and positive.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (d6TTt)
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Also, I gained about 7 pounds in two weeks. I ordered 90 bucks worth of nuts from nuts.com and ate them all in 10 days. They were delicious and it's better than cupcakes but there's a limit to even how much good things you can get away with eating.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (mrfTe)
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But I have been called narrow minded and worse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Ozsfq)
Nah...I've been drinking with you. You are definitely broad minded.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Ozsfq)
Nah...I've been drinking with you. You are definitely broad minded.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (Zu3d9)
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Yeah, he just got banned. I got into it with him the other day and I will not miss him.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (mpXpK)
Yeah, same here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:09 PM (mpXpK)
Yeah, same here.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (d6TTt)
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LincolnTF -- Every time, the same thing: "Eat less, exercise more."
A lot of people believe that. I've done it, and it's worked for me. (For a while.) But it doesn't really address the underlying issues.
If you believe in that, if it works for you, that's great. But it's really annoying to have someone come in and repeat it over and over again, as if we weren't all aware of the calories-in-calories-out concept. As if we hadn't done any research. As if we're just chasing a fad.
If you think the mysteries of human weight gain/loss can be summed up with the laws of thermodynamics, fine, but put some effort into researching what actually happens. Otherwise you're just nagging.
A lot of people believe that. I've done it, and it's worked for me. (For a while.) But it doesn't really address the underlying issues.
If you believe in that, if it works for you, that's great. But it's really annoying to have someone come in and repeat it over and over again, as if we weren't all aware of the calories-in-calories-out concept. As if we hadn't done any research. As if we're just chasing a fad.
If you think the mysteries of human weight gain/loss can be summed up with the laws of thermodynamics, fine, but put some effort into researching what actually happens. Otherwise you're just nagging.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (7zeA4)
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Dr. Fung actually wrote an article just this week on the dietdoctor.com site on the downsides of too much protein. Dr. Ron Rosedale also argues for less protein intake in a recent address (the Vail conference?)
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
Posted by: sulla at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (0GucZ)
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[iI'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
Posted by: ace
According to Gray's Anatomy, the human asshole weighs 21 ounces, so you just lost almost two pounds right there!
Posted by: ace
According to Gray's Anatomy, the human asshole weighs 21 ounces, so you just lost almost two pounds right there!
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (jBuUi)
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>>>'m sure others have probably told you this before, but it's not the weight that you want to look at, ultimately. If you're working out and eating better, and your body fat is diminishing,you're replacing it with muscle, which weighs more than fat.
no i know all that but there is no accurate way to measure body fat percentage vs. lean percentage.
The electronic ones are godawful and might as well be random number generators, and the caliper method depends on getting an accurate read, and I don't really know how to get get an accurate read.
even with that, they say: "Well this won't be accurate per se, but you can tell the directionality of your changes if you keep your inaccuracy consistent."
no i know all that but there is no accurate way to measure body fat percentage vs. lean percentage.
The electronic ones are godawful and might as well be random number generators, and the caliper method depends on getting an accurate read, and I don't really know how to get get an accurate read.
even with that, they say: "Well this won't be accurate per se, but you can tell the directionality of your changes if you keep your inaccuracy consistent."
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (dciA+)
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works for headaches too. try it.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
I'll have to try it on the neck muscles. Fortunately, I don't really get headaches.
Costco (Canada) always has protein powder (about 2 kg) for $40 Canadian. I imagine they have it for sale in the US too. I'm thrilled with this because I remember buying protein powder years ago when it was only in health stores and it was SUCH a ripoff.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
I'll have to try it on the neck muscles. Fortunately, I don't really get headaches.
Costco (Canada) always has protein powder (about 2 kg) for $40 Canadian. I imagine they have it for sale in the US too. I'm thrilled with this because I remember buying protein powder years ago when it was only in health stores and it was SUCH a ripoff.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (/NlFx)
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Holy crap VA GOP! Again, very motivating!
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (U+nHb)
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And incidentally - I feel fantastic. Lots more energy. No sweets cravings. It's fantastic. People I haven't seen for six months are astounded.
It may not work for everyone, but it's sure working for me. And I'm a lot more energized to go out and DO things. Before I'd just want to sit on the couch and watch tv. Now I want to walk outside.
Amazing.
It may not work for everyone, but it's sure working for me. And I'm a lot more energized to go out and DO things. Before I'd just want to sit on the couch and watch tv. Now I want to walk outside.
Amazing.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (qcCvJ)
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I've been doing whole 30 for September and I've dropped about 16 lbs so far and one full dress size. Got a ways to go, but I'm finding it fairly easy to keep up with.
Posted by: Disdainfullady at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (pGfNT)
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I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
I'm not a doctor nor do I play one of TV ;but I don't think ass***** actually weigh anything ;^)
I'm not a doctor nor do I play one of TV ;but I don't think ass***** actually weigh anything ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (EnGQE)
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My gain is that I only are one delicious ginger lemon cookie instead of more. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (EnGQE)
Fen!!!
Salut!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (EnGQE)
Fen!!!
Salut!
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (d6TTt)
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>> Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM
You are definitely broad minded.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM
Yoo hoo!
You are definitely broad minded.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM
Yoo hoo!
Posted by: Cora Segal at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (V+C3K)
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Posting from OLPC-XO in Midori.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (oVJmc)
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I will mention that my weight loss is slightly more complicated than your average person because I am an insulin-dependent diabetic (aka Type 1) - so I am constantly juggling my insulin intake and my carbs. It can get tricky and as I am losing weight I experience dangerously low blood sugar (e.g. 31 instead of 100) that require a quick shot of carbs - also known in my house as "emergency skittles." So this tends to slow down my weight loss for a bit while I figure out what my new insulin requirement is for my reduced body weight. In the past I was afraid to lose weight because of it, but not anymore. I'm committed to the weight loss for my long term health. Having a fit, healthy wife that encourages me, exercises with me and does the Lose It app with me is an immeasurable help.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (E1Cat)
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I am going to say something extremely controversial about diets.
I firmly believe that everyone's body is different and that what works for one person is terrible for another and that you have to try stuff to find out what works for you.
The problem, of course, is that right now we don't have a simple little test to say okay your metabolism is better with high protein and low fat and no carbs and yours is better with moderate protein and high fat and some carbs. Nope. It's hit and miss.
And then your body goes hahahahahahaha and changes it up.
Because Blessed Mother Gaia is a bitch.
I firmly believe that everyone's body is different and that what works for one person is terrible for another and that you have to try stuff to find out what works for you.
The problem, of course, is that right now we don't have a simple little test to say okay your metabolism is better with high protein and low fat and no carbs and yours is better with moderate protein and high fat and some carbs. Nope. It's hit and miss.
And then your body goes hahahahahahaha and changes it up.
Because Blessed Mother Gaia is a bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (mf5HN)
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Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (d6TTt)
I could look this up, but I'll ask you instead. What is paddleboarding?
I could look this up, but I'll ask you instead. What is paddleboarding?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (EnGQE)
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No weight loss gainz this week, I think primarily due to a weekend carb and alcohol binge.
Also no running gainz. After failing to do Couch to 5K Week 6 Day 1 last Monday (probably due to lack of sleep the night before), I had planned on trying again on Friday. Friday, though, I got tied up with work/childcare/other commitments and didn't get a chance to break away for a run. Would have done it yesterday but when I had a chance to run it was 102F outside and fuck that. Going to try on Thursday, then next week get back on the Monday&Friday schedule.
Also no running gainz. After failing to do Couch to 5K Week 6 Day 1 last Monday (probably due to lack of sleep the night before), I had planned on trying again on Friday. Friday, though, I got tied up with work/childcare/other commitments and didn't get a chance to break away for a run. Would have done it yesterday but when I had a chance to run it was 102F outside and fuck that. Going to try on Thursday, then next week get back on the Monday&Friday schedule.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (Oh6Hh)
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50 days on HFLC with IF of about 17 hours and buttery coffee instead of breakfast with lots of water and vitamin water (for electrolytes) and some bone broth along the way but not in awhile -> 18.8 pounds dropped
Shooting for about 18 more and then maybe good, maybe a few more
Walking about 15,000 steps a day - not much other exercise because of bad knees
Dropped 1.8 pounds today after almost a week on a plateau. Funny how that goes ...
Ace - thanks for doing this and don't let Lincoln get in the way
Continues to be the easiest diet ever
Shooting for about 18 more and then maybe good, maybe a few more
Walking about 15,000 steps a day - not much other exercise because of bad knees
Dropped 1.8 pounds today after almost a week on a plateau. Funny how that goes ...
Ace - thanks for doing this and don't let Lincoln get in the way
Continues to be the easiest diet ever
Posted by: Littler me at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (NPLj5)
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Spongeworthy, that made me laugh out loud. Too much of a good thing.
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (U+nHb)
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Ace, or anybody:
Where do olives rank as a weight-loss food?
I absolutely love olives (especially hand-picked kalamatas) and would eat them all the time if I could.
They seem to be nothing much more than fats and fiber (i.e. olive oil + vegetative material), so I'm hoping they actually count as a "high fat/low carb" food.
But I never ever see any mention of olives in the lists of good or bad foods. Which are they?
Where do olives rank as a weight-loss food?
I absolutely love olives (especially hand-picked kalamatas) and would eat them all the time if I could.
They seem to be nothing much more than fats and fiber (i.e. olive oil + vegetative material), so I'm hoping they actually count as a "high fat/low carb" food.
But I never ever see any mention of olives in the lists of good or bad foods. Which are they?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
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121 >>>116 Did Lincolntf comments get nuked?
YUUUUP!
I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (dciA+)
Yeah you know how I defended him the other week when you wrongly jumped on him. You were just premature. Stupid on his part.
YUUUUP!
I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (dciA+)
Yeah you know how I defended him the other week when you wrongly jumped on him. You were just premature. Stupid on his part.
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (z/Ubi)
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Mr. Peebles...off-topic but kind of cool. The OLPC project is still going?
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (7zeA4)
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Last thing before I go, there are yoga programs on television, usually PBS. I found one on VisionTV - our religion channel.
The programs target certain areas of the body, so tonight I'm going to try one for buttocks, which is important to me since I want to be running again while I do Body Beast.
But if you DVR the programs, it's a nice free workout video.
The programs target certain areas of the body, so tonight I'm going to try one for buttocks, which is important to me since I want to be running again while I do Body Beast.
But if you DVR the programs, it's a nice free workout video.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (/NlFx)
Posted by: Hope Solo at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (V+C3K)
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I lost a couple dress sizes --- which isn't too bad. Since I'm a dude.
Posted by: jd at September 27, 2016 05:16 PM (cIj06)
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:16 PM (dciA+)
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It may not work for everyone, but it's sure working for me. And I'm a lot more energized to go out and DO things. Before I'd just want to sit on the couch and watch tv. Now I want to walk outside.
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Same for me. I think a lot of people are missing out on this deal here.
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Same for me. I think a lot of people are missing out on this deal here.
Posted by: Seems legit at September 27, 2016 05:16 PM (U+nHb)
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Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
I think they are low carb. I could be wrong.
I think they are low carb. I could be wrong.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:16 PM (Q5Ymk)
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151 Ace, or anybody:
Where do olives rank as a weight-loss food?
I absolutely love olives (especially hand-picked kalamatas) and would eat them all the time if I could.
They seem to be nothing much more than fats and fiber (i.e. olive oil + vegetative material), so I'm hoping they actually count as a "high fat/low carb" food.
But I never ever see any mention of olives in the lists of good or bad foods. Which are they?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
Might depend on if they are in a martini glass.
Where do olives rank as a weight-loss food?
I absolutely love olives (especially hand-picked kalamatas) and would eat them all the time if I could.
They seem to be nothing much more than fats and fiber (i.e. olive oil + vegetative material), so I'm hoping they actually count as a "high fat/low carb" food.
But I never ever see any mention of olives in the lists of good or bad foods. Which are they?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
Might depend on if they are in a martini glass.
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (z/Ubi)
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According to Gray's Anatomy, the human asshole weighs 21 ounces
...
I may be skinny, but I assure you I weigh much more than 21 ounces.
...
I may be skinny, but I assure you I weigh much more than 21 ounces.
Posted by: Harry Reid at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (1H9ox)
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Olives gotta be big in the fat department.
Posted by: jd at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (cIj06)
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Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (d6TTt)
I could look this up, but I'll ask you instead. What is paddleboarding?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (EnGQE)
Oh. It's where you stand on a surf boardy thing, in a lake or river, and fall off.
Seriously, it is a board, looks a little like a surf board, has a fin on the bottom in the back.
You do stand up on it, and paddle around standing up.
Good upper body workout, and also good for small muscle groups in your legs, thighs, and glutes.
Lots of fun, and very very quiet and relaxing, after you get the hang of it.
Highly recommend, Fen.
I could look this up, but I'll ask you instead. What is paddleboarding?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (EnGQE)
Oh. It's where you stand on a surf boardy thing, in a lake or river, and fall off.
Seriously, it is a board, looks a little like a surf board, has a fin on the bottom in the back.
You do stand up on it, and paddle around standing up.
Good upper body workout, and also good for small muscle groups in your legs, thighs, and glutes.
Lots of fun, and very very quiet and relaxing, after you get the hang of it.
Highly recommend, Fen.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (d6TTt)
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Food is either a carb, a fat or a protein
Posted by: Yo! at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (uPt3V)
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I'm on board with HFLC in general, though I haven't committed to it more broadly than "skip breakfast, less soda, black coffee only" - definitely feel better even with that slack-ass of an approach, though I can't help but think butter in the coffee would help me be less 'tarded through the middle of the day.
Anyway, I do want to thank Ace for these threads, since they're definitely about what I should be doing, even if I'm not.
Anyway, I do want to thank Ace for these threads, since they're definitely about what I should be doing, even if I'm not.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (eXSOZ)
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I mowed the lawn this past weekend for the first time since June when I had surgery for the hernia.. surgeon gave me the all clear for any activity last week.
I quickly gained 3 pounds! Perhaps the 4 day weekend of eating restaurant food with my wife had something to do with it, though..
I find IF so much easier during the work week. I can just concentrate on work until noon, and that's about 17-18 hours since I last ate. (except on days like today when a co-worker brings in muffins and cake for their birthday)
Doing that has kept me at a plateau.. but it is amazing how I have pretty much stayed the same weight for almost 2 months while really doing no exercise at all.
I quickly gained 3 pounds! Perhaps the 4 day weekend of eating restaurant food with my wife had something to do with it, though..
I find IF so much easier during the work week. I can just concentrate on work until noon, and that's about 17-18 hours since I last ate. (except on days like today when a co-worker brings in muffins and cake for their birthday)
Doing that has kept me at a plateau.. but it is amazing how I have pretty much stayed the same weight for almost 2 months while really doing no exercise at all.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (zjvxX)
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Continues to be the easiest diet ever
Posted by: Littler me at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (NPLj5)
Yeah. I was surprised at how easy the IF was to get used to. I thought I would essentially be torturing myself constantly, but I literally can't remember feeling this good, this consistently.
Posted by: Littler me at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (NPLj5)
Yeah. I was surprised at how easy the IF was to get used to. I thought I would essentially be torturing myself constantly, but I literally can't remember feeling this good, this consistently.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (4ng05)
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I used to drink 3 light beers every night. I cut it to one, then zero. Didn't lose a pound. Felt so sorry for myself I ate some more nuts.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (mrfTe)
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zombie--
The only way olives could be bad would be something in the lye, I'd think. I mean, they're vege--no, wait, they're fruits! I guess they could be too high carb for some. But they're s'posed to be awesome: Anti-inflammatory, best sorts of fats, really low GI...good stuff!
The only way olives could be bad would be something in the lye, I'd think. I mean, they're vege--no, wait, they're fruits! I guess they could be too high carb for some. But they're s'posed to be awesome: Anti-inflammatory, best sorts of fats, really low GI...good stuff!
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (7zeA4)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
...
Pork chops.
...
Pork chops.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (1H9ox)
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A friend and I were talking about the frustration of attempting a body recomposition (not really trying to "lose weight," exactly). It's not that things move slowly -- if they moved slowly but consistently, it would be reassuring.
The problem is that nothing seems to happen for a couple of weeks, then suddenly you drop weight. Even after, say, you said "Ah the hell with this Manorexia, I want Taco Bell."
It's the fact that, past the first two months, inputs and outputs seem correlated in only a slight way, if at all.
it evens out over time
weekly turns into monthly, turns into yearly
you have to be patient
if you're only a few pounds to your target, it is harder
1 pound a month is not bad. It will stay off if you continue to eat well.
more than 1-2 lbs a week is fine at first if you are very overweight (more than that is dangerous), but after that, get used to the slow as it goes
even when weight training, because, yeah, it will add bulk, but then beware, if you stop (which many people do eventually), it turns to flab
cut calories when and where you can, to anticipate heavy days
The problem is that nothing seems to happen for a couple of weeks, then suddenly you drop weight. Even after, say, you said "Ah the hell with this Manorexia, I want Taco Bell."
It's the fact that, past the first two months, inputs and outputs seem correlated in only a slight way, if at all.
it evens out over time
weekly turns into monthly, turns into yearly
you have to be patient
if you're only a few pounds to your target, it is harder
1 pound a month is not bad. It will stay off if you continue to eat well.
more than 1-2 lbs a week is fine at first if you are very overweight (more than that is dangerous), but after that, get used to the slow as it goes
even when weight training, because, yeah, it will add bulk, but then beware, if you stop (which many people do eventually), it turns to flab
cut calories when and where you can, to anticipate heavy days
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (qCMvj)
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Olives gotta be big in the fat department.
Posted by: jd at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (cIj06)
Yes, but- good. So good.
Posted by: jd at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (cIj06)
Yes, but- good. So good.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (d6TTt)
Posted by: concrete girl at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (UU5Wy)
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okay i put up the update about bulletproof coffee.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (dciA+)
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Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (mrfTe)
I once heard a similar event described as "Mt. Saint Healthyfood". One of the issues John had with losing weight was that his stomach had stretched due to years of *very* large meals (my M-i-l is an excellent cook and he had two older brothers to compete with for the food).
We went to using smaller plates, but he had to drink a lot of water in order to feel satisfied as well. We did that because he was only in his early 30s but the Dr. gave him six months to get his weight down or he would *have* to prescribe blood pressure medication to prevent allegations of malpractice. John was also showing signs of pre-diabetes and since his mom's entire family of 9 has type two diabetes he couldn't just ignore the issue. With a few simple changes he lost 40 pounds, but we never did manage to figure out how to have him maintain that before he had the first cancer diagnosis and became less of a priority.
I once heard a similar event described as "Mt. Saint Healthyfood". One of the issues John had with losing weight was that his stomach had stretched due to years of *very* large meals (my M-i-l is an excellent cook and he had two older brothers to compete with for the food).
We went to using smaller plates, but he had to drink a lot of water in order to feel satisfied as well. We did that because he was only in his early 30s but the Dr. gave him six months to get his weight down or he would *have* to prescribe blood pressure medication to prevent allegations of malpractice. John was also showing signs of pre-diabetes and since his mom's entire family of 9 has type two diabetes he couldn't just ignore the issue. With a few simple changes he lost 40 pounds, but we never did manage to figure out how to have him maintain that before he had the first cancer diagnosis and became less of a priority.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (GDulk)
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My gainz. I deadlifted 135 yesterday. That's more than I weigh. I'm also improving my pull-ups. The trainer gives me a boost. He says my boost is probably 30 pounds.
I think I'm doing great.
My diet sucked this weekend. I'm back eating right so I don't gain any weight.
It's also way too hot to do anything outside here. So I'm going to float in the pool.
I think I'm doing great.
My diet sucked this weekend. I'm back eating right so I don't gain any weight.
It's also way too hot to do anything outside here. So I'm going to float in the pool.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (+2TMo)
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I can't get enough of olive.
Posted by: Popeye at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (8ZskC)
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The reason this whole system wouldn't work for me personally is that I don't want to become all muscle-bound and six-pack-y. What I want is merely to become slightly more slender, with more of a willowy lithe body -- and not grow big muscles like some kind of Bulgarian Olympic powerlifter.
So, in my case, I just eat light, intermittently fast, and burn off calories in a non-workout-y fashion. And it works. At this stage, it's increasingly difficult to take off any more weight.
So, in my case, I just eat light, intermittently fast, and burn off calories in a non-workout-y fashion. And it works. At this stage, it's increasingly difficult to take off any more weight.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (jBuUi)
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Food is either a carb, a fat or a protein
Posted by: Yo!
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Not all carbs are the same however.. you can eat certain nuts that are also high in fat and it really doesn't even count as carbs.
Posted by: Yo!
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Not all carbs are the same however.. you can eat certain nuts that are also high in fat and it really doesn't even count as carbs.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (so+oy)
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Looking up olives in my Master Cook cookbook (best nutrition following computer program I have ever seen) they are about 5 cal each, zero cholesterol, .5 gm total fat and .27 g carbs. So as long as you don't hit the gin with all those olives they are not bad for you.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (mpXpK)
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Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (d6TTt)
Oh, yes. Now Ii recall, I should have known that, D'oh.
Oh, yes. Now Ii recall, I should have known that, D'oh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:22 PM (EnGQE)
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Now it's no longer black coffee with a yellow pool of grease on top of it.
I like my coffee like I like my oil slicks.
I like my coffee like I like my oil slicks.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:23 PM (8ZskC)
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k, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve
with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get
stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
Bacon
with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get
stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
Bacon
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 27, 2016 05:23 PM (GUBah)
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I made some of that butter coffee everyone is talking about. Took it out to the range.
I dunno what kind of butter you'ze guys are using, but that stuff was nowhere near bulletproof.
I dunno what kind of butter you'ze guys are using, but that stuff was nowhere near bulletproof.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 05:23 PM (1H9ox)
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so here's the update, which I want people to read in case they're having their coffee the terrible way I told them to have it:
Holy Crap: So, for four or five months, I've been putting butter in my coffee, and MCT oil.
But not blending it, as many recommended.
Why? Because I'm a dude and I'm lazy and I always look to Reduce Steps and Increase Efficiency even if it means I'm drinking horrible coffee with a quarter inch pool of buttery fat on top of it.
After all, Real Men do not seek comfort. It's indulgent and womanly.
Real men drink disgusting coffee. Because they're Men.
So, anyway, I discovered I actually had an immersion blender. I bought it a year ago at Target or something, when I had planned to start this, and never opened up the box.
I started blending the coffee.
Wow.
Now it's no longer black coffee with a yellow pool of grease on top of it. Now it's.... well, it tastes like coffee with luscious cream in it.
Now I actually enjoy coffee again instead of just wolfing down black coffee with a skin of partially melted butter.
How did you goofs not insist to me I just blend it?
If you're drinking it the "Ace Way," that is, the Moron Way, you're missing out. Spend $20 or $30 on an immersion blender -- you just stick it in the coffee and blend. You'll be glad you did.
One thing, you have to put the coffee in a taller glass to blend (otherwise it will get sloshed around, out of the cup), but that doesn't take long. You can just rinse that glass after you use it, stick the blender in it, and set it aside for tomorrow.
Holy Crap: So, for four or five months, I've been putting butter in my coffee, and MCT oil.
But not blending it, as many recommended.
Why? Because I'm a dude and I'm lazy and I always look to Reduce Steps and Increase Efficiency even if it means I'm drinking horrible coffee with a quarter inch pool of buttery fat on top of it.
After all, Real Men do not seek comfort. It's indulgent and womanly.
Real men drink disgusting coffee. Because they're Men.
So, anyway, I discovered I actually had an immersion blender. I bought it a year ago at Target or something, when I had planned to start this, and never opened up the box.
I started blending the coffee.
Wow.
Now it's no longer black coffee with a yellow pool of grease on top of it. Now it's.... well, it tastes like coffee with luscious cream in it.
Now I actually enjoy coffee again instead of just wolfing down black coffee with a skin of partially melted butter.
How did you goofs not insist to me I just blend it?
If you're drinking it the "Ace Way," that is, the Moron Way, you're missing out. Spend $20 or $30 on an immersion blender -- you just stick it in the coffee and blend. You'll be glad you did.
One thing, you have to put the coffee in a taller glass to blend (otherwise it will get sloshed around, out of the cup), but that doesn't take long. You can just rinse that glass after you use it, stick the blender in it, and set it aside for tomorrow.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:23 PM (dciA+)
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...Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (+2TMo)...
oh, pull-ups, the elusive goal. I hope before I leave the earth plane I'll be able to do just one.
oh, pull-ups, the elusive goal. I hope before I leave the earth plane I'll be able to do just one.
Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (nNdYv)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
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Surf & turf
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Surf & turf
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (Om16U)
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170 zombie--
The only way olives could be bad would be something in the lye, I'd think. I mean, they're vege--no, wait, they're fruits! I guess they could be too high carb for some. But they're s'posed to be awesome: Anti-inflammatory, best sorts of fats, really low GI...good stuff!
Posted by: moviegique
True Kalamata olives made in Greece on small farms use NO lye in the de-bittering process -- they are allowed to soak naturally for a much longer time to get the nasty taste out without chemical intervention.
The only way olives could be bad would be something in the lye, I'd think. I mean, they're vege--no, wait, they're fruits! I guess they could be too high carb for some. But they're s'posed to be awesome: Anti-inflammatory, best sorts of fats, really low GI...good stuff!
Posted by: moviegique
True Kalamata olives made in Greece on small farms use NO lye in the de-bittering process -- they are allowed to soak naturally for a much longer time to get the nasty taste out without chemical intervention.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (jBuUi)
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Pork chops.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (1H9ox)
I've got those marinating in Jack Daniel's Honey Teriyaki sauce. The steak is going to be done teppanyaki style with the sauce we got from our favorite Japanese steakhouse. Now why is my keyboard covered in drool?
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (1H9ox)
I've got those marinating in Jack Daniel's Honey Teriyaki sauce. The steak is going to be done teppanyaki style with the sauce we got from our favorite Japanese steakhouse. Now why is my keyboard covered in drool?
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (ar2KI)
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We have a blender. I guess I should try the butter coffee that way.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:25 PM (Om16U)
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Any green leafy vegetable with steak is great. There really aren't that many digestible carbs in the green leafy things. Put lots of butter on spinach or kale. Eat a small Caesar salad. Don't go "nuts" with it, though.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (mrfTe)
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Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (dciA+)
The most accurate method is probably a scale immersed in a tank of water (hydrostatic weighing). Your % body fat can be calculated pretty accurately that way.
It is however not the most convenient way to weigh yourself in the morning.
I was in an exercise physiology department study when in college, and I had it done a lot.
The most accurate method is probably a scale immersed in a tank of water (hydrostatic weighing). Your % body fat can be calculated pretty accurately that way.
It is however not the most convenient way to weigh yourself in the morning.
I was in an exercise physiology department study when in college, and I had it done a lot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (Zu3d9)
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>>>192 We have a blender. I guess I should try the butter coffee that way.
IMMERSION blender. IT's a tube with blending blades at the bottom. You stick it into something instead of sticking someting into it.
They're small because they're light-duty and pretty cheap.
IMMERSION blender. IT's a tube with blending blades at the bottom. You stick it into something instead of sticking someting into it.
They're small because they're light-duty and pretty cheap.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (dciA+)
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>>>I'm shedding weight, and that includes assholes.
:::braces for impact, prays to be funnier:::
:::braces for impact, prays to be funnier:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (QVVXM)
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used to weigh 185. now weigh 162. i have jeans that haven't fit for awhile. good deal for me
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (KP5rU)
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113 Latest tally:
Since July 5, I'm down 53 lbs. size 34 waist. I haven't been in a size 34 waist since college.
Stick with it. This IF and LCHF works. Like crazy. Supplement it with exercise. Walk. Take the stairs. It may seem too minor to work, but it does.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (qcCvJ)
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You are my hero. Also, the VA GOP does indeed suck. Cuccinelli would be governor if the state party would have put in a little effort.
Since July 5, I'm down 53 lbs. size 34 waist. I haven't been in a size 34 waist since college.
Stick with it. This IF and LCHF works. Like crazy. Supplement it with exercise. Walk. Take the stairs. It may seem too minor to work, but it does.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2016 05:06 PM (qcCvJ)
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You are my hero. Also, the VA GOP does indeed suck. Cuccinelli would be governor if the state party would have put in a little effort.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (SUtNI)
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OK. I read about Matcha tea the other night and I ordered some.
It is pretty neat. You drink the ground up leaves and shit. With lots of splenda it does not taste bad and it seems to give me a strange buzz.
Anyone else drink this crap? Hippies say I will live forever or something.
It is pretty neat. You drink the ground up leaves and shit. With lots of splenda it does not taste bad and it seems to give me a strange buzz.
Anyone else drink this crap? Hippies say I will live forever or something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (NbJXF)
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Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (jBuUi)
How hot is it up your way? It's 106 here and I don't have A/C
How hot is it up your way? It's 106 here and I don't have A/C
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (+2TMo)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (XN4C4)
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If I weigh less than 155, I look too thin and ill/sickly.
After back surgery, I quit smoking, and I gained weight. Then I had neck surgery, and I gained more weight. Since I was not able to exercise and my taste buds came back, I gained even more weight. I exceeded all pregnancy weight before I was able to start losing any.
I'd like to get into a little black dress for my graduation in December. I think it's a size 12. It seems almost impossible, but walking 5 miles a day for 8 weeks netted a loss of 11 pounds. It takes 1 hour and 40 minutes to go 10,000 steps, and I can't seem to get in into my schedule now that the semester has begun.
I drink water and unsweet tea. I need to eat less, but I have no will power when it tastes so good and it's right in front of me.
I'm in size 14 now and losing 20 pounds would probably be enough. I have 81 days.
After back surgery, I quit smoking, and I gained weight. Then I had neck surgery, and I gained more weight. Since I was not able to exercise and my taste buds came back, I gained even more weight. I exceeded all pregnancy weight before I was able to start losing any.
I'd like to get into a little black dress for my graduation in December. I think it's a size 12. It seems almost impossible, but walking 5 miles a day for 8 weeks netted a loss of 11 pounds. It takes 1 hour and 40 minutes to go 10,000 steps, and I can't seem to get in into my schedule now that the semester has begun.
I drink water and unsweet tea. I need to eat less, but I have no will power when it tastes so good and it's right in front of me.
I'm in size 14 now and losing 20 pounds would probably be enough. I have 81 days.
Posted by: adsila at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (erVZn)
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Yeah but we already have a pretty pricey blender gathering dust. I'm too stingy to buy a new gadget.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (Om16U)
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I've never had a cup of coffee in my life and I'm 48 years old. Weird, I know.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (E1Cat)
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Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
One of the diets that seemed to work for my mom had you eating a few olives or nuts before your main meal. That's not very helpful though since I didn't do the diet myself and wasn't living with her when she did. There was an acronym (MUFA?) for the nuts and olives though.
One of the diets that seemed to work for my mom had you eating a few olives or nuts before your main meal. That's not very helpful though since I didn't do the diet myself and wasn't living with her when she did. There was an acronym (MUFA?) for the nuts and olives though.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (GDulk)
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zombie-- I'll have to try some Kalmata olives.
pookysgirl-- I'm not doing the LC thing, so I'll have sides of high-fiber, lower-GI type carbs, like forbidden rice or barley or some kind of non-refined grain. When I was doing LC, I tended toward salads with homemade dressings and low-carb veggies.
pookysgirl-- I'm not doing the LC thing, so I'll have sides of high-fiber, lower-GI type carbs, like forbidden rice or barley or some kind of non-refined grain. When I was doing LC, I tended toward salads with homemade dressings and low-carb veggies.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (7zeA4)
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180 The reason this whole system wouldn't work for me personally is that I don't want to become all muscle-bound and six-pack-y. What I want is merely to become slightly more slender, with more of a willowy lithe body -- and not grow big muscles like some kind of Bulgarian Olympic powerlifter.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (jBuUi)
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OMG, Zombie is Milo!
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (jBuUi)
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OMG, Zombie is Milo!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 27, 2016 05:29 PM (jR7Wy)
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Anyone else drink this crap? Hippies say I will live forever or something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (NbJXF)
Personally, I don't drink anything nonalcoholic that hasn't been run through the digestive tract of a civet monkey first.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (NbJXF)
Personally, I don't drink anything nonalcoholic that hasn't been run through the digestive tract of a civet monkey first.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:29 PM (8ZskC)
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Oh, my the way ace, still taking that cod liver oil. Cold it tastes OK.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (NbJXF)
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>>>203 Yeah but we already have a pretty pricey blender gathering dust. I'm too stingy to buy a new gadget.
well a real blender will work. Just sounds like a massive pain in the ass every morning to me.
well a real blender will work. Just sounds like a massive pain in the ass every morning to me.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (dciA+)
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I am planning to cut my calories back to 1500 a day to lose more weight more quickly.
I deliberately left room for me to step things up so if I hit a wall, I had a way to break thru.
I deliberately left room for me to step things up so if I hit a wall, I had a way to break thru.
Posted by: Hillary at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (+aCe4)
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that pool line was funny.
one thing i have found is not all coconut oil is the same.
do not buy jolly time.
i like the southern name one in the white jar.
one thing i have found is not all coconut oil is the same.
do not buy jolly time.
i like the southern name one in the white jar.
Posted by: concrete girl at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (UU5Wy)
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You can also use a milk frother. for the bulletproof coffee. They are 10 dollars or so.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (+2TMo)
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I do this diet where, when I notice I've got to move up a belt notch or two, I eat better and do more physical stuff.
I call it "eat better do more stuff". I might write a book. Or do a vlog.
I call it "eat better do more stuff". I might write a book. Or do a vlog.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (1H9ox)
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Anyone else drink this crap? Hippies say I will live forever or something.
Posted by: Nip Sip
I have a whole lot of matcha tea that I got as "sample packs" at a foodie event. I've tried to drink as much as I can, but dang it, I just can't integrate it into my lifestyle. The taste is pretty good, but matcha just doesn't "go with" anything -- the flavor profile is too radically different from most everything in the American diet. So I still have a lot of packets left over with no plans to drink them Sigh.
Posted by: Nip Sip
I have a whole lot of matcha tea that I got as "sample packs" at a foodie event. I've tried to drink as much as I can, but dang it, I just can't integrate it into my lifestyle. The taste is pretty good, but matcha just doesn't "go with" anything -- the flavor profile is too radically different from most everything in the American diet. So I still have a lot of packets left over with no plans to drink them Sigh.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (jBuUi)
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I'm so far away from my goal, I'm discouraged. I've done it before, but it was more than ten years ago and I have old ness and bustedness to contend with. Thank god for this thread where I can both whine but remember to keep going.
So I went down another pound, I am below the Alamo at which I should never ever gain weight above. I've lost about 20.
But I am 35 pounds away from being the just a pound or two underweight that is my happy place, where I stayed for years and years. It took a long time, a long year and a half, to floof up again.
I've got six to nine hard months to slog through to be normal again, that is, if I don't stall out, because of the new oldness. Menopause will be coming for me sometime, I've got a few years tops. I heard your stomach turns monstrous and you lose your waist.
My waist is my best part, this is terrible news,
I don't want to shop at the fat lady menopause store,
I'm sad I can't run, and wouldn't be able to even if I hadn't dropped the pruning shears into my foot. I can walk but it makes me really anxious as I am a ruminator on events in every verb tense, and only running gives me a clear head. I need a new excercise but I don't know what.
Regular dieting wasn't working so I'm down below a thousand calories a day. My hormones hate me. The scale budges, slowly, real deprivation required. First goal done. The second is for a certain blouse from the fat closet to button properly. It almost does. It's a medium with horizontal stripes and I can remember when it was too BIG for me get away with wearing it.
So I went down another pound, I am below the Alamo at which I should never ever gain weight above. I've lost about 20.
But I am 35 pounds away from being the just a pound or two underweight that is my happy place, where I stayed for years and years. It took a long time, a long year and a half, to floof up again.
I've got six to nine hard months to slog through to be normal again, that is, if I don't stall out, because of the new oldness. Menopause will be coming for me sometime, I've got a few years tops. I heard your stomach turns monstrous and you lose your waist.
My waist is my best part, this is terrible news,
I don't want to shop at the fat lady menopause store,
I'm sad I can't run, and wouldn't be able to even if I hadn't dropped the pruning shears into my foot. I can walk but it makes me really anxious as I am a ruminator on events in every verb tense, and only running gives me a clear head. I need a new excercise but I don't know what.
Regular dieting wasn't working so I'm down below a thousand calories a day. My hormones hate me. The scale budges, slowly, real deprivation required. First goal done. The second is for a certain blouse from the fat closet to button properly. It almost does. It's a medium with horizontal stripes and I can remember when it was too BIG for me get away with wearing it.
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (Sp1NT)
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My wife has half a dozen of those small blenders laying around the kitchen that she uses for mixing up her "drugs" to pour down her tube. She collects them like tchotchkes from a county fair. I use them when I am mixing up eggs and a little milk for making omelets.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:31 PM (mpXpK)
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200 Posted by: zombie
How hot is it up your way? It's 106 here and I don't have A/C
Posted by: CaliGirl
Only about 90 where I am. But I also have no A/C, so it's getting pretty unbearable.
But hey, that's September and October in the Bay Area. These heat waves happen just about every year at this time.
106? I'd go crazy.
How hot is it up your way? It's 106 here and I don't have A/C
Posted by: CaliGirl
Only about 90 where I am. But I also have no A/C, so it's getting pretty unbearable.
But hey, that's September and October in the Bay Area. These heat waves happen just about every year at this time.
106? I'd go crazy.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:32 PM (jBuUi)
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For side dishes, I've been doing spinach with blue cheese dressing, or romaine lettuce, or other greens like that. You want to really up your fiber intake, and lettuce/spinach work well for that.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2016 05:32 PM (qcCvJ)
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>>>
I'm sad I can't run, and wouldn't be able to even if I hadn't dropped the pruning shears into my foot. I can walk but it makes me really anxious as I am a ruminator on events in every verb tense, and only running gives me a clear head. I need a new excercise but I don't know what.
planks are scalable and can be done for zero dollars.
there are cheating planks (on knees, or on elbows) you can do to scale up.
as far as walking, you could try listening to audiobooks or even language lessons (I did that for a year)
I'm sad I can't run, and wouldn't be able to even if I hadn't dropped the pruning shears into my foot. I can walk but it makes me really anxious as I am a ruminator on events in every verb tense, and only running gives me a clear head. I need a new excercise but I don't know what.
planks are scalable and can be done for zero dollars.
there are cheating planks (on knees, or on elbows) you can do to scale up.
as far as walking, you could try listening to audiobooks or even language lessons (I did that for a year)
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:33 PM (dciA+)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
Low carb doesn't mean no carb. Too much protein can actually be detrimental - it prevents ketosis and may (not certain) bring about keto flu. Changing your lifestyle over to LF, in my opinion, means you don't have to be too anal about restrictions. Stay out of the center isles of the grocery and you'll be fine.
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
Low carb doesn't mean no carb. Too much protein can actually be detrimental - it prevents ketosis and may (not certain) bring about keto flu. Changing your lifestyle over to LF, in my opinion, means you don't have to be too anal about restrictions. Stay out of the center isles of the grocery and you'll be fine.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:33 PM (4ng05)
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Speaking medically, forgetting to put threads up could be an early warning sign of alzheimers. Speaking of alzheimers and forgetting to put threads up I haven't seen any gun threads in a while. Of course I realize ya'all may be saving them gun threads up for after the election, for when we need them the most.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at September 27, 2016 05:33 PM (cCxiu)
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Posted by: adsila at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (erVZn)
You can do it. My friends use an app or something that tells them how long they will have to run to burn off the doughnut or whatever they want to eat.
If I have to full on sprint for an hour to burn off a snickers bar, I'm not eating it because I'm basically lazy.
You can do it. My friends use an app or something that tells them how long they will have to run to burn off the doughnut or whatever they want to eat.
If I have to full on sprint for an hour to burn off a snickers bar, I'm not eating it because I'm basically lazy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:34 PM (+2TMo)
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You don't need vanity jeans sizes - you can just change the number on the tag. I wear Size 31 jeans, just like back in HS.
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at September 27, 2016 05:34 PM (kumBu)
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Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (Sp1NT)
If you can walk, you could bike?
Or walk somewhere interesting. I like walking in a mall, tbh.
If the weather is nice I'd like to walk on a hill, or somewhere visually interesting.
If you can walk, you could bike?
Or walk somewhere interesting. I like walking in a mall, tbh.
If the weather is nice I'd like to walk on a hill, or somewhere visually interesting.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:35 PM (Om16U)
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CBD-- Hey...if you have a swimming pool, could you do the hydrostatic weighing thing by...I dunno, dropping a waterproof scale in there?
Witchfinder--I've never had a cup of coffee, either.
Witchfinder--I've never had a cup of coffee, either.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (7zeA4)
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Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (Sp1NT)
Hi Sarah!
Don't think about your goal as being 35 pounds away because that's very discouraging.
Let your goal be just 5 pounds. Or even 3 pounds. It's doable. You can reach that in about 2 or 3 weeks. And when you do reach the goal, you may even be 1 pound under goal which makes your next goal only 4 pounds away!
Chunking things down into more manageable pieces makes everything easier.
All the best.
Hi Sarah!
Don't think about your goal as being 35 pounds away because that's very discouraging.
Let your goal be just 5 pounds. Or even 3 pounds. It's doable. You can reach that in about 2 or 3 weeks. And when you do reach the goal, you may even be 1 pound under goal which makes your next goal only 4 pounds away!
Chunking things down into more manageable pieces makes everything easier.
All the best.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (/NlFx)
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So, I completed the 21 Day Fix Extreme program.
I lost 18 pounds. In 21 days. It did NOT turn me into Mr. Sixpack Abs. And, clearly, it was weight I needed to lose.
But that shit works.
I lost 18 pounds. In 21 days. It did NOT turn me into Mr. Sixpack Abs. And, clearly, it was weight I needed to lose.
But that shit works.
Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (tewYv)
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>>>Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
you can have a fistful of leafy greens or a half-fist of broccoli or the like and still be at low carb for that meal
you can have a fistful of leafy greens or a half-fist of broccoli or the like and still be at low carb for that meal
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (dciA+)
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So I still have a lot of packets left over with no plans to drink them Sigh.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (jBuUi)
The shit is EXPENSIVE! I think it expires, so sell it or give it away.
I am thinking about putting a teaspoon in my morning Metamucil. I put some in a chocolate protein shake and it worked. Anyway, it is not as strong as coffee, but I lost a couple of pounds after a couple of days drinking it.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (jBuUi)
The shit is EXPENSIVE! I think it expires, so sell it or give it away.
I am thinking about putting a teaspoon in my morning Metamucil. I put some in a chocolate protein shake and it worked. Anyway, it is not as strong as coffee, but I lost a couple of pounds after a couple of days drinking it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (NbJXF)
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I did one of those super duper whole body exams recently.
Everything was fine except the doc said I should drop 10 lbs, but I'm thinking I'll go for 20.
Anyway, I used to be able to drop weight pretty much by just thinking about it. Eat a little less here, walk a little more there.
But, that doesn't seem to be working quite as well this time around. Too slow.
So, I'm trying the low carb dealio and doing more walking /jogging. Some minor weight lifting to start then work my way up.
I guess the health bump I got in the Navy has ran out and I need to rebuild.
Fie on you, Biology!!!!
Everything was fine except the doc said I should drop 10 lbs, but I'm thinking I'll go for 20.
Anyway, I used to be able to drop weight pretty much by just thinking about it. Eat a little less here, walk a little more there.
But, that doesn't seem to be working quite as well this time around. Too slow.
So, I'm trying the low carb dealio and doing more walking /jogging. Some minor weight lifting to start then work my way up.
I guess the health bump I got in the Navy has ran out and I need to rebuild.
Fie on you, Biology!!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (0cMkb)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:27 PM (NbJXF)
Matcha is the powdered green tea from Japan, is that what you mean because I believe there's something with a similar name from South America.
I like matcha as green tea lattes, but I do use sugar or flavored syrup so it can't be considered healthy.
Matcha is the powdered green tea from Japan, is that what you mean because I believe there's something with a similar name from South America.
I like matcha as green tea lattes, but I do use sugar or flavored syrup so it can't be considered healthy.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (GDulk)
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I will say, GAINZZZ wise, I feel like I'm hitting a bit of a wall. But it's only been a week - and it's probably unrealistic to be setting PR's every week. Honestly, I'm most pleased with myself that one month into my new job, I've been able to keep up my same exercise routine.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (kumBu)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Broccoli covered in home made garlic parmesan cheese sauce (heavy cream, melted cheeses of various sorts found lying around the fridge, garlic, parmesan). Caesar salad with no croutons.
Broccoli covered in home made garlic parmesan cheese sauce (heavy cream, melted cheeses of various sorts found lying around the fridge, garlic, parmesan). Caesar salad with no croutons.
Posted by: pete at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (AZ/Tv)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
I recommend greenbeans. Yeah, I know, vegetable, but low carb/glycemic.
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
I recommend greenbeans. Yeah, I know, vegetable, but low carb/glycemic.
Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2016 05:38 PM (tewYv)
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (dciA+)
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SarahW--
You can do it! Exercise isn't the big thing as far as weight loss, but it can certainly help one's spirits, so you might look into doing something low-key. I'm doing Maffetone which is big on a "no pain" approach, and it does work. (Fellow moron "chris not rock" is my inspiration here; he's done it for years.)
Change your approach up a bit to keep it interesting and be sure to note all your wins: As ace pointed out a few weeks back, you make progress and then you FORGET you've made it, and you just look at where you are now. It can make it easy to get discouraged.
You can do it! Exercise isn't the big thing as far as weight loss, but it can certainly help one's spirits, so you might look into doing something low-key. I'm doing Maffetone which is big on a "no pain" approach, and it does work. (Fellow moron "chris not rock" is my inspiration here; he's done it for years.)
Change your approach up a bit to keep it interesting and be sure to note all your wins: As ace pointed out a few weeks back, you make progress and then you FORGET you've made it, and you just look at where you are now. It can make it easy to get discouraged.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (7zeA4)
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Different companies also size differently.
I fit into my grandpa's Size 34 jeans almost perfectly - but I have pairs of 36's that are tight on me. Other 36's are loose and I can't wear them without a belt.
I fit into my grandpa's Size 34 jeans almost perfectly - but I have pairs of 36's that are tight on me. Other 36's are loose and I can't wear them without a belt.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (kumBu)
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One pound a week is fine. The trend is the important thing.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut-In. at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (CPk08)
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Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (7zeA4)[i/]
Theoretically? Sure. It makes sense. But practically it probably won't work too well.
Theoretically? Sure. It makes sense. But practically it probably won't work too well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (Zu3d9)
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Matcha is the powdered green tea from Japan, is
that what you mean because I believe there's something with a similar
name from South America.
I like matcha as green tea lattes, but I do use sugar or flavored syrup so it can't be considered healthy.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (GDulk)
I am talking about the Jap shit. The Argentine stuff is Mate. I spent a summer in BA and that stuff can become addictive.
Good Mate is hard to get in the US, but I haven't looked in a while.
Matcha is the powdered green tea from Japan, is
that what you mean because I believe there's something with a similar
name from South America.
I like matcha as green tea lattes, but I do use sugar or flavored syrup so it can't be considered healthy.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (GDulk)
I am talking about the Jap shit. The Argentine stuff is Mate. I spent a summer in BA and that stuff can become addictive.
Good Mate is hard to get in the US, but I haven't looked in a while.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (NbJXF)
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Oh, and someone...maybe Ace mentioned upthread about needing more sleep as they lost weight.
I'm finding that to be true.
I'm having longer, deeper, more dream-laden sleep since I started losing weight.
I'm finding that to be true.
I'm having longer, deeper, more dream-laden sleep since I started losing weight.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (0cMkb)
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Down 60lbs since January.
In the beginning it was consistent but after the first three month I'd go long periods of time at the same weight then lose 10lbs in a day.
I eat only meat, cheese, veggies & fruit (very little fruit.)
I've had absolutely no cravings whatsoever.
Got my sugar to normal with no meds.
Having two excellent butcher shops in the area is a plus. I eat a lot of cured meats because they are portable & I work all the time.
Funny aside & cooking tip: there is an excellent bbq place here. Their chicken is fried with no breading but it tastes & has the texture of breading. Doing low carb I went there once a week.
Well I found out the secret when I walked in and one of the sons was in front talking to a girl while dredging the chicken in a 50lb sack of sugar.
I can't eat it anymore but for those of you who can try dredging you s chicken in sugar before you fry it.
The place is in a filthy shack smack in the middle of a terrible hood & is packed with suburbanites. The bbq is that good!
In the beginning it was consistent but after the first three month I'd go long periods of time at the same weight then lose 10lbs in a day.
I eat only meat, cheese, veggies & fruit (very little fruit.)
I've had absolutely no cravings whatsoever.
Got my sugar to normal with no meds.
Having two excellent butcher shops in the area is a plus. I eat a lot of cured meats because they are portable & I work all the time.
Funny aside & cooking tip: there is an excellent bbq place here. Their chicken is fried with no breading but it tastes & has the texture of breading. Doing low carb I went there once a week.
Well I found out the secret when I walked in and one of the sons was in front talking to a girl while dredging the chicken in a 50lb sack of sugar.
I can't eat it anymore but for those of you who can try dredging you s chicken in sugar before you fry it.
The place is in a filthy shack smack in the middle of a terrible hood & is packed with suburbanites. The bbq is that good!
Posted by: #1lurker at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (EBjxR)
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Olives with Kaboom in Milk
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (zv81W)
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Just use a small whisk...
in Tech news via the WSJ:
Elon Musk Outlines Plans for Missions to Mars
Entrepreneur wants to send humans to Mars in 10 years at roughly $200,000 a person
Entrepreneur Elon Musk unveiled his contrarian vision of sending humans to Mars in roughly the next decade and ultimately setting up colonies there, relying on bold moves by private enterprise instead of more-gradual steps previously proposed by Washington.
in Tech news via the WSJ:
Elon Musk Outlines Plans for Missions to Mars
Entrepreneur wants to send humans to Mars in 10 years at roughly $200,000 a person
Entrepreneur Elon Musk unveiled his contrarian vision of sending humans to Mars in roughly the next decade and ultimately setting up colonies there, relying on bold moves by private enterprise instead of more-gradual steps previously proposed by Washington.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (qCMvj)
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Off drunken, grifter sock!
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (+aCe4)
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Black coffee. Not racist in any way. And often delicious.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (VFhMt)
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I think just being on HFLC makes me feel better, regardless of weight loss. Must be an insulin thing.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (Om16U)
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys. Especially the Moron who recommended bacon.
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (ar2KI)
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Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (kumBu)
Also jeans come in different fits too. Relaxed fit. Skinny, super skinny. Straight.
Also jeans come in different fits too. Relaxed fit. Skinny, super skinny. Straight.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:42 PM (+2TMo)
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>>>LincolnTF -- Every time, the same thing: "Eat less, exercise more."
A lot of people believe that. I've done it, and it's worked for me. (For a while.) But it doesn't really address the underlying issues.
If you believe in that, if it works for you, that's great. But it's really annoying to have someone come in and repeat it over and over again, as if we weren't all aware of the calories-in-calories-out concept. As if we hadn't done any research. As if we're just chasing a fad.
If you think the mysteries of human weight gain/loss can be summed up with the laws of thermodynamics, fine, but put some effort into researching what actually happens. Otherwise you're just nagging
...
it's the twentieth time he's said it. As if we didn't hear it from Government Doctors and Michelle Obama enough. He thinks he's dropping Truth Bombs on us.
Meanwhile, he's ignoring all the people having good results with IF or HFLC or both.
And then this bullshit about "getting outside"? You punk ass bitch, I was outside all fucking weekend.
Know where I often at sundown? when you don't see me on the blog?
I go out to a park and take a hike in the woods
it's just this arrogance combined with ignorance and an utter refusal to ask someone a QUESTION -- questions are weakness, you know!
Does he bother to ASK us if we're exercising too?
For God's sakes we're talking about exercise every third post.
But this banana is here to tell us that Being Outside is Nice
A lot of people believe that. I've done it, and it's worked for me. (For a while.) But it doesn't really address the underlying issues.
If you believe in that, if it works for you, that's great. But it's really annoying to have someone come in and repeat it over and over again, as if we weren't all aware of the calories-in-calories-out concept. As if we hadn't done any research. As if we're just chasing a fad.
If you think the mysteries of human weight gain/loss can be summed up with the laws of thermodynamics, fine, but put some effort into researching what actually happens. Otherwise you're just nagging
...
it's the twentieth time he's said it. As if we didn't hear it from Government Doctors and Michelle Obama enough. He thinks he's dropping Truth Bombs on us.
Meanwhile, he's ignoring all the people having good results with IF or HFLC or both.
And then this bullshit about "getting outside"? You punk ass bitch, I was outside all fucking weekend.
Know where I often at sundown? when you don't see me on the blog?
I go out to a park and take a hike in the woods
it's just this arrogance combined with ignorance and an utter refusal to ask someone a QUESTION -- questions are weakness, you know!
Does he bother to ASK us if we're exercising too?
For God's sakes we're talking about exercise every third post.
But this banana is here to tell us that Being Outside is Nice
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:42 PM (dciA+)
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CBD--
I guess I could try calculating it, too. Volume of water displaced. But that seems problematic. =P
I guess I could try calculating it, too. Volume of water displaced. But that seems problematic. =P
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:42 PM (7zeA4)
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Holy Crap: So, for four or five months, I've been putting butter in my coffee, and MCT oil.
.............
I stick with Kahlua
.............
I stick with Kahlua
Posted by: wth at September 27, 2016 05:42 PM (HgMAr)
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"The trend is the important thing.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut-In. at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (CPk0
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If current trends continue, at around Age 35 I'll be deadlifting approximately metric ton. Plateaus? What are those, brah?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut-In. at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (CPk0
"If current trends continue, at around Age 35 I'll be deadlifting approximately metric ton. Plateaus? What are those, brah?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (kumBu)
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Speaking of Olives, this stuff is great on about anything. I got some at Costco. It goes on Chicken, Fish, Pizza and meat.
http://tinyurl.com/j4tlyhg
http://tinyurl.com/j4tlyhg
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (NbJXF)
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Not sure if I'm banned or not, since I'm mostly a lurker and haven't commented (successfully) in a while. I have been on one of those expensive ketone supplements since middle of May. For the past week I have been consistently under 150 lbs. Background info - I started combining IF and Ketone supplements along with HFLC diet and weighed about 168 in May. I have been doing CrossFit for about 6 years and am 54 years old and stand 5'5".
Posted by: KetoDan at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (xvAbw)
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SarahW do you know if you have any thyroid, iron, vit D, etc issues? Or PCOS?
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (Om16U)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl
Brussel Sprouts cooked right.
Take some Brussels Sprouts. Cut them vertically into fourths.
Olive oil in pan. Get it hot. Then FRY THE LIVING HELL out of those sprouts, stirring constantly, until you start to get some Maillard Reaction and they are blackened. If you think you're done, then KEEP GOING and fry 'em some more.
Onions and garlic in the mix is good too.
Squeeze a bit of lemon juice on top, and a sprinkling of chunky kosher-style salt.
Even if you never liked Brussels Sprouts before, you will go "YUMMMMM!" And as far as I can tell, it's a super-lo-carb dish with lotsa cruciferous fiber, so good for you.
Posted by: pookysgirl
Brussel Sprouts cooked right.
Take some Brussels Sprouts. Cut them vertically into fourths.
Olive oil in pan. Get it hot. Then FRY THE LIVING HELL out of those sprouts, stirring constantly, until you start to get some Maillard Reaction and they are blackened. If you think you're done, then KEEP GOING and fry 'em some more.
Onions and garlic in the mix is good too.
Squeeze a bit of lemon juice on top, and a sprinkling of chunky kosher-style salt.
Even if you never liked Brussels Sprouts before, you will go "YUMMMMM!" And as far as I can tell, it's a super-lo-carb dish with lotsa cruciferous fiber, so good for you.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (jBuUi)
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I didn't make any progress over the week when I did my jeans test. I'm hoping there is some water retention from my weekend of driving, doing an endurance ride (horseback, I do live my nic) and driving back.
I did feel less wiped out by the ride than the last two so I think I'm making some health progress.
Congrats so all the doers this week and thanks for being motivational stories.
I did feel less wiped out by the ride than the last two so I think I'm making some health progress.
Congrats so all the doers this week and thanks for being motivational stories.
Posted by: Palerider at September 27, 2016 05:43 PM (dkExz)
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but seriously if you haven't done it in a while:
Go out to a park at sundown, go for a walk, enjoy the low sun streaming through the trees.
it's particularly nice for me since my eyes are fixed. It's nice to see things.
but it just generally feels right.
Go out to a park at sundown, go for a walk, enjoy the low sun streaming through the trees.
it's particularly nice for me since my eyes are fixed. It's nice to see things.
but it just generally feels right.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
why no vegetables?
what?
Eat vegetables. They have staying power. They give you energy. And don't forget carrots. Always a great choice.
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (ar2KI)
why no vegetables?
what?
Eat vegetables. They have staying power. They give you energy. And don't forget carrots. Always a great choice.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj)
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I've never had a cup of coffee in my life and I'm 48 years old. Weird, I know.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (E1Cat)
BURN THE WITCH.
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I've never had a cup of coffee in my life and I'm 48 years old. Weird, I know.
Posted by: Witchfinder at September 27, 2016 05:28 PM (E1Cat)
BURN THE WITCH.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (LuZz8)
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Black coffee. Not racist in any way. And often delicious.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (VFhMt)
I've become quite the coffee connoisseur since I joined the IF lifestyle. I used to have to stop at two cups in the morning, now, with the right coffee, I can drink it all day - small doses, mind you.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (VFhMt)
I've become quite the coffee connoisseur since I joined the IF lifestyle. I used to have to stop at two cups in the morning, now, with the right coffee, I can drink it all day - small doses, mind you.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (4ng05)
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*wanders back in from writing*
But but Outside it out to kill us! The squirrels man...
*goes back to writing about Krav Maga*
But but Outside it out to kill us! The squirrels man...
*goes back to writing about Krav Maga*
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (1+0rk)
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broseidon--
Big props on the switching jobs without losing your exercise routine. I have trouble with that.
Big props on the switching jobs without losing your exercise routine. I have trouble with that.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (7zeA4)
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BTW Ace, as per your post below regarding Minnesota. I still think the poll is an outlier, but I am seeing almost NO Hillary yard signs/bumper stickers and as we all know, the left loves them some bumper stickers. Rural MN and the burbs are solid red and I am seeing quite a few Trump yard signs. But the MOST curious. I am starting to see Hillary TV ads here! We rarely see the dem do TV ads in MN as the POTUS race in MN always goes dem. So take it FWIW
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (rGKzf)
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ps you only have a couple of months left for walks. gonna get uncomfortably cold soon enough.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
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>>>But this banana is here to tell us that Being Outside is Nice
Is banana a bad thing? Like Hillary teaches us, why am I feeling this way where I need to slur bananas? Aren't there good bananas?
Is banana a bad thing? Like Hillary teaches us, why am I feeling this way where I need to slur bananas? Aren't there good bananas?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:46 PM (QVVXM)
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Yay, not banned . Also, I cut out all of my extra protein supplements. Which kinda helped with expenses.
. Also, I cut out all of my extra protein supplements. Which kinda helped with expenses.Posted by: KetoDan at September 27, 2016 05:46 PM (xvAbw)
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is
NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal
planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
--
Surf turf
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (Om16U)
As the saying goes, fish are fast vegetables......
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Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is
NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal
planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
--
Surf turf
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (Om16U)
As the saying goes, fish are fast vegetables......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2016 05:46 PM (LuZz8)
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236 sounds weird but olives go with anything.
steak and olives? yes please.
Posted by: ace
Ace has been kidnapped by Big Olive and now has Stockholm Syndrome!
steak and olives? yes please.
Posted by: ace
Ace has been kidnapped by Big Olive and now has Stockholm Syndrome!
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (jBuUi)
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it's particularly nice for me since my eyes are fixed. It's nice to see things.
but it just generally feels right.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
Just watch your back in NYC. Day dreaming park goers often get mugged.
but it just generally feels right.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
Just watch your back in NYC. Day dreaming park goers often get mugged.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (NbJXF)
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@artisanal ette: I was at a convention a couple of weeks back, and heard Richard Garriott speak (astronaut, video game developer, antarctic explorer, nut), and he contended that we may finally be able to "do" Mars - on the basis of most projects being much easier once they can be done on a decade scale. Both in the sense of generational commitment, political will (less so for private enterprise), presidential time frame etc. etc. and in the sense of what's actually within grasp within ten years. Anything that's "fifteen years out" is actually thirty or more years out because of how long it will spend being technically fifteen years out and not reached for - anything within ten is within grasp.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (eXSOZ)
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I'm still bouncing around from 168-170 and seem to be stuck there this week (Ace coffee, IF--1500 calories a day). I have been working on the abs so they have tightened up and maybe added some muscle which NEGATES ANY WEIGHT LOSS but still gives the illusion of weight loss, so its all good.
My daughter even told me...."Daddy, you have lost a lot of weight. You don't look fat anymore."
My daughter even told me...."Daddy, you have lost a lot of weight. You don't look fat anymore."
Posted by: The Walking Dude at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (cCxiu)
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>>>W Ace, as per your post below regarding Minnesota. I still think the poll is an outlier, but I am seeing almost NO Hillary yard signs/bumper stickers and as we all know, the left loves them some bumper stickers.
i'm seeing very few hillary signs myself.
i'm seeing very few hillary signs myself.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (dciA+)
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"Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:21 PM (jBuUi) "
Zombie, trust me, or ask sixkiller or halfrican or one of the other Horde members that does heavy lifting - you're not going to accidentally look like a powerlifter.
Zombie, trust me, or ask sixkiller or halfrican or one of the other Horde members that does heavy lifting - you're not going to accidentally look like a powerlifter.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (kumBu)
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ps you only have a couple of months left for walks. gonna get uncomfortably cold soon enough.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
wimp?
you know I love ya
I just dress for it. At least my face still gets sun.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
wimp?
you know I love ya
I just dress for it. At least my face still gets sun.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:48 PM (qCMvj)
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but seriously if you haven't done it in a while:
Go out to a park at sundown, go for a walk, enjoy the low sun streaming through the trees.
it's particularly nice for me since my eyes are fixed. It's nice to see things.
but it just generally feels right.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
Your dog will love you if you get him out for some new stimulation as well.
Early morning sunrises are as good as late afternoon sunsets. Some amazing stuff out there that's a million times better than seeing it on a screen.
Go out to a park at sundown, go for a walk, enjoy the low sun streaming through the trees.
it's particularly nice for me since my eyes are fixed. It's nice to see things.
but it just generally feels right.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
Your dog will love you if you get him out for some new stimulation as well.
Early morning sunrises are as good as late afternoon sunsets. Some amazing stuff out there that's a million times better than seeing it on a screen.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:48 PM (4ng05)
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For all you younger whipper snappers I'll let you in on a little secret about weight control. The older you get the harder it is to lose weight or not gain it.
When I was in HS I weighed 135 pounds and ate like a horse. But I ran the mile and the 2 mile in track. But still kept the weight off after HS.
When I got out of the Navy at 26 I weighed around 150 and still ate a lot even though I was smoking then.
When I stayed around that until I went into Nuke School and sitting at a desk all day but was up to 28 then. Went up to 165 pounds. When I retired I was 55 yo at about 170 pounds pounds going on. Quit smoking and didn't take long to shoot on up there.
But to make a long story short, after I went above 30 the pounds went on a lot easier and came off a lot harder. Above 50 it became tougher than ever.
When I was in HS I weighed 135 pounds and ate like a horse. But I ran the mile and the 2 mile in track. But still kept the weight off after HS.
When I got out of the Navy at 26 I weighed around 150 and still ate a lot even though I was smoking then.
When I stayed around that until I went into Nuke School and sitting at a desk all day but was up to 28 then. Went up to 165 pounds. When I retired I was 55 yo at about 170 pounds pounds going on. Quit smoking and didn't take long to shoot on up there.
But to make a long story short, after I went above 30 the pounds went on a lot easier and came off a lot harder. Above 50 it became tougher than ever.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:48 PM (mpXpK)
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Black coffee. Not racist in any way. And often delicious.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (VFhMt)
Black coffee?
http://tinyurl.com/og22vs3
Black coffee. Not racist in any way. And often delicious.
Posted by: dissent555 at September 27, 2016 05:41 PM (VFhMt)
Black coffee?
http://tinyurl.com/og22vs3
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (NbJXF)
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>>>Onions and garlic in the mix is good too.
Garlic is great for blood pressure. Couple cloves a day and you're golden.
Garlic is great for blood pressure. Couple cloves a day and you're golden.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (QVVXM)
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>>>I'm still bouncing around from 168-170 and seem to be stuck there this week (Ace coffee, IF--1500 calories a day). I have been working on the abs so they have tightened up and maybe added some muscle which NEGATES ANY WEIGHT LOSS but still gives the illusion of weight loss, so its all good.
maybe if you're stuck you should increase your calories. 1500 is low.
i don't know. On my end, I don't know if it helped, but adding extra protein (which is extra calories) correlated with my coming out of my stall.
whether that was related or not, I don't know. It's all a mystery.
but the watchwords are monitoring, combined with experimentation, and noting whether or not the experiment helped.
maybe if you're stuck you should increase your calories. 1500 is low.
i don't know. On my end, I don't know if it helped, but adding extra protein (which is extra calories) correlated with my coming out of my stall.
whether that was related or not, I don't know. It's all a mystery.
but the watchwords are monitoring, combined with experimentation, and noting whether or not the experiment helped.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (dciA+)
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Go out to a park at sundown, go for a walk, enjoy the low sun streaming through the trees.
I do that every morning, before it gets too hot. Not problem lately, but in June when it's 90+ before the sun comes up, you go early or you go mall walking.
I do that every morning, before it gets too hot. Not problem lately, but in June when it's 90+ before the sun comes up, you go early or you go mall walking.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (YEelc)
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I was at a convention a couple of weeks back, and heard Richard Garriott speak (astronaut, video game developer, antarctic explorer, nut), and he contended that we may finally be able to "do" Mars - on the basis of most projects being much easier once they can be done on a decade scale. Both in the sense of generational commitment, political will (less so for private enterprise), presidential time frame etc. etc. and in the sense of what's actually within grasp within ten years. Anything that's "fifteen years out" is actually thirty or more years out because of how long it will spend being technically fifteen years out and not reached for - anything within ten is within grasp.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (eXSOZ)
especially via private enterprise
I believe it
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (eXSOZ)
especially via private enterprise
I believe it
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (qCMvj)
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Anna see your getting somewhere
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (JfUI4)
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it's just this arrogance combined with ignorance and an utter refusal to ask someone a QUESTION -- questions are weakness, you know!
---
Yeah, I asked someone (can't remember who) what they expected when they posted stuff like that. It's like walking into a cocktail party and farting loudly. And then it's all "Well, I suppose YOU don't fart."
I'm down with anyone who wants to argue the CICO philosophy but bring something new to the table. Like, explain the number of fat people at 10Ks and half-marathons. How does that happen? They're burning up calories like crazy!
The plane crashed because drag was greater than lift.
Great. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
---
Yeah, I asked someone (can't remember who) what they expected when they posted stuff like that. It's like walking into a cocktail party and farting loudly. And then it's all "Well, I suppose YOU don't fart."
I'm down with anyone who wants to argue the CICO philosophy but bring something new to the table. Like, explain the number of fat people at 10Ks and half-marathons. How does that happen? They're burning up calories like crazy!
The plane crashed because drag was greater than lift.
Great. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:49 PM (7zeA4)
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>>>130 Also, I gained about 7 pounds in two weeks. I ordered 90 bucks worth of nuts from nuts.com and ate them all in 10 days. They were delicious and it's better than cupcakes but there's a limit to even how much good things you can get away with eating.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (mrfTe)
That is so great.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (mrfTe)
That is so great.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (/4GEs)
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>>>
Early morning sunrises are as good as late afternoon sunsets. Some amazing stuff out there that's a million times better than seeing it on a screen.
i have not seen a sunrise in forever but I am getting up early now (by early I mean crack of nine) and who knows, maybe I'll get up earlier and earlier each week to finally see a sunrise.
Early morning sunrises are as good as late afternoon sunsets. Some amazing stuff out there that's a million times better than seeing it on a screen.
i have not seen a sunrise in forever but I am getting up early now (by early I mean crack of nine) and who knows, maybe I'll get up earlier and earlier each week to finally see a sunrise.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (dciA+)
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Finally get to comment on this thread.
I work from home as many on this blog seem to do. Been that way the last two or three years. I had been a consistent 183-185 with a nice gut to show for it. But about six months or so ago I just said fuck it and let go. Started eating a couple gallons of Bluebell a week along with Pringles and don't get me started on tortillas. Hmmmmm tortillas. Anywho, work requires a biometric screening on July 19th this year. I weighed 193. Heaviest I've ever been in my life. Diabetes runs in the family and my cholesterol levels were all outta wack. That was my wake up call.
Since then I've been eating less and much more healthy. I've been tracking what I eat in the MyFitnessPal app which has helped me a great deal. I am walking about 5 miles-ish 4-5 times a week which gets me my 10k steps. My ideal or desired weight(read: during college) is around 165. Right now I'm at 177ish.
Thanks Ace, for giving those of us who are trying to get our shit together an outlet to share ideas and encouragement. It does help.
I work from home as many on this blog seem to do. Been that way the last two or three years. I had been a consistent 183-185 with a nice gut to show for it. But about six months or so ago I just said fuck it and let go. Started eating a couple gallons of Bluebell a week along with Pringles and don't get me started on tortillas. Hmmmmm tortillas. Anywho, work requires a biometric screening on July 19th this year. I weighed 193. Heaviest I've ever been in my life. Diabetes runs in the family and my cholesterol levels were all outta wack. That was my wake up call.
Since then I've been eating less and much more healthy. I've been tracking what I eat in the MyFitnessPal app which has helped me a great deal. I am walking about 5 miles-ish 4-5 times a week which gets me my 10k steps. My ideal or desired weight(read: during college) is around 165. Right now I'm at 177ish.
Thanks Ace, for giving those of us who are trying to get our shit together an outlet to share ideas and encouragement. It does help.
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (AJeMv)
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i'm seeing very few hillary signs myself.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (dciA+)
********
Hillary is running ads in MD. Something is going on here. Our Republican Gov has a 70% approval rating. Hmmmm....
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:47 PM (dciA+)
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Hillary is running ads in MD. Something is going on here. Our Republican Gov has a 70% approval rating. Hmmmm....
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (zv81W)
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I want to exercise muscles that are not visible to the outside world, so I do a lot of Kegel exercises and that puts me into kegosis.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (jBuUi)
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@279
Vic is right, metabolism slows down when you get old. Your resting calorie burn rate is a function of muscle mass and age.
You guys enjoy the youth shit, EVERYDAY.
Vic is right, metabolism slows down when you get old. Your resting calorie burn rate is a function of muscle mass and age.
You guys enjoy the youth shit, EVERYDAY.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (NbJXF)
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well your coffee will taste better but it is mostly the filth and bacteria stuck in your immersion blender that are adding the flavor.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (cPsPa)
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ps you only have a couple of months left for walks. gonna get uncomfortably cold soon enough.
Posted by: ace
For you maybe. For me it may actually become tolerable walking weather.
Posted by: ace
For you maybe. For me it may actually become tolerable walking weather.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (9krrF)
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But to make a long story short, after I went above 30 the pounds went on a lot easier and came off a lot harder. Above 50 it became tougher than ever.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:48 PM (mpXpK)
People aren't as active either. Yes, your body slows down, hormones whack out, but you know, that big beautiful rocker (or La-Z-boy!)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:48 PM (mpXpK)
People aren't as active either. Yes, your body slows down, hormones whack out, but you know, that big beautiful rocker (or La-Z-boy!)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (qCMvj)
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initial reading: 261.0lbs
last week: 248.4lbs (31.4%)
this week: 247.2lbs (30.2%)
I decided to ramp elliptical usage to 6-7 days per week which should more than make up for the bottle of wine this past weekend...
last week: 248.4lbs (31.4%)
this week: 247.2lbs (30.2%)
I decided to ramp elliptical usage to 6-7 days per week which should more than make up for the bottle of wine this past weekend...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (jV8Mq)
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"Big props on the switching jobs without losing your exercise routine. I have trouble with that.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (7zeA4) "
Well, my old job was technically 'unemployed bum.' But yeah, it helps that two of my weekly exercises are late (7 pm), one is on the weekend, and the other weekday ones I can do super early before work (or if my boss is in a good mood and there isn't much to do around the office, I can take off at 4-4:30 and hit a 5:30 class).
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (7zeA4) "
Well, my old job was technically 'unemployed bum.' But yeah, it helps that two of my weekly exercises are late (7 pm), one is on the weekend, and the other weekday ones I can do super early before work (or if my boss is in a good mood and there isn't much to do around the office, I can take off at 4-4:30 and hit a 5:30 class).
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (kumBu)
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For you maybe. For me it may actually become tolerable walking weather.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (9krrF)
I walk every day unless it's so cold I can't breath.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (9krrF)
I walk every day unless it's so cold I can't breath.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:52 PM (qCMvj)
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i have not seen a sunrise in forever but I am
getting up early now (by early I mean crack of nine) and who knows,
maybe I'll get up earlier and earlier each week to finally see a
sunrise.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (dciA+)
Just wait, winter's coming. In NYC sunrise will be around nine.
getting up early now (by early I mean crack of nine) and who knows,
maybe I'll get up earlier and earlier each week to finally see a
sunrise.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (dciA+)
Just wait, winter's coming. In NYC sunrise will be around nine.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:52 PM (NbJXF)
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I like to walk about 6;45 am when the teen gets off to school and also around sunset-not necessarily on the same day. Looking at things, getting outside and exercising helps with creativity too.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:52 PM (EnGQE)
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why no vegetables?
what?
Eat vegetables. They have staying power. They give you energy. And don't forget carrots. Always a great choice.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj)
Due to my parents being over-zealous with vegetables, I can't stand to be around most of them. I get physically sick at the thought of certain common vegetables. I can do raw carrots and any kind of potato. That's it. Hence the request for no vegetable ideas.
what?
Eat vegetables. They have staying power. They give you energy. And don't forget carrots. Always a great choice.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj)
Due to my parents being over-zealous with vegetables, I can't stand to be around most of them. I get physically sick at the thought of certain common vegetables. I can do raw carrots and any kind of potato. That's it. Hence the request for no vegetable ideas.
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:53 PM (ar2KI)
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I miss my hunting club. Getting up at 4 AM to duck hunt is quite a trip, especially when it's 20 degrees and raining like shit.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:54 PM (NbJXF)
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"You guys enjoy the youth shit, EVERYDAY.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (NbJXF) "
Ace takes for granted how easy it is for his 29* year old body to lose weight.
*(28, actually - he's going to be 29 later this year)
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (NbJXF) "
Ace takes for granted how easy it is for his 29* year old body to lose weight.
*(28, actually - he's going to be 29 later this year)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:54 PM (kumBu)
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i have not seen a sunrise in forever but I am getting up early now (by early I mean crack of nine) and who knows, maybe I'll get up earlier and earlier each week to finally see a sunrise.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (dciA+)
I'm still trying to find my socks after the sunrise I saw on my way to my walking spot Sunday. Breathtaking just barely scratches the surface.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (dciA+)
I'm still trying to find my socks after the sunrise I saw on my way to my walking spot Sunday. Breathtaking just barely scratches the surface.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (4ng05)
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295 People aren't as active either. Yes, your body
slows down, hormones whack out, but you know, that big beautiful rocker
(or La-Z-boy!)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (qCMvj)
When I'm in that porch rocker I burn some calories rocking to the tunes. Even broke a rocking chair one time rocking so hard. But that brown stuff offsets any calories burn.
slows down, hormones whack out, but you know, that big beautiful rocker
(or La-Z-boy!)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:51 PM (qCMvj)
When I'm in that porch rocker I burn some calories rocking to the tunes. Even broke a rocking chair one time rocking so hard. But that brown stuff offsets any calories burn.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (mpXpK)
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We should invite Ms Fatty Universe Machado to this thread.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (Om16U)
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Many years ago I was a night person, if I wanted to see the sun rise I'd stay up for it.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (JfUI4)
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broseidon--hey, don't knock it...I hear the "unemployed bum" biz is booming.
As for going outdoors, I do my run at night. But I love the shadows and outlines of the trees and bushes, and the glow from the houses, and the quiet. (Well, it used to be quiet. My suburb has gotten very urby alas.)
As for going outdoors, I do my run at night. But I love the shadows and outlines of the trees and bushes, and the glow from the houses, and the quiet. (Well, it used to be quiet. My suburb has gotten very urby alas.)
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (7zeA4)
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As a Texan it has barely become cool enough for walks. As in since Saturday
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>>>I'm down with anyone who wants to argue the CICO philosophy but bring something new to the table. Like, explain the number of fat people at 10Ks and half-marathons. How does that happen? They're burning up calories like crazy!
The problem with the CICO model is it ignores all the hormonal reactions and adaptations as weight is lost. The body likes fat because it is like an energy piggy bank. If you try to deplete your savings, your body will shut down withdrawals. Cheat meals and cheat days help because they reset hormone levels so your body feels more comfortable with lower fat reserves if it has higher calorie intakes every so often. You got to beat your evolutionary fat storing.
The problem with the CICO model is it ignores all the hormonal reactions and adaptations as weight is lost. The body likes fat because it is like an energy piggy bank. If you try to deplete your savings, your body will shut down withdrawals. Cheat meals and cheat days help because they reset hormone levels so your body feels more comfortable with lower fat reserves if it has higher calorie intakes every so often. You got to beat your evolutionary fat storing.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (QVVXM)
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Mr. Peebles...off-topic but kind of cool. The OLPC project is still going?
I found a second one at a thrift store this morning, but the screen is dead, so I dug out my old one and fired it up to see if there's anything I can do about it.
I found a second one at a thrift store this morning, but the screen is dead, so I dug out my old one and fired it up to see if there's anything I can do about it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 05:57 PM (oVJmc)
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Entrepreneur wants to send humans to Mars in 10 years at roughly $200,000 a person
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (qCMvj)
To do what?
The catch is that the return trip costs $100,000,000.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:40 PM (qCMvj)
To do what?
The catch is that the return trip costs $100,000,000.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 05:57 PM (zc3Db)
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nood trump
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Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (JfUI4)
Worked nightdesk at a hotel one summer. Apparently I saw my lifetime quota of sunrises, because now it would take a life-threatening situation for me to be able to be awake that early.
Worked nightdesk at a hotel one summer. Apparently I saw my lifetime quota of sunrises, because now it would take a life-threatening situation for me to be able to be awake that early.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 27, 2016 05:57 PM (GDulk)
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I do say watching 18-22 yr olds most of the day lately there seem to be quite a few who could loose a few, or a lot.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 05:58 PM (JfUI4)
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Eat vegetables. They have staying power. They give you energy. And don't forget carrots. Always a great choice.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Especially in chilli!
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Especially in chilli!
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 05:58 PM (4MUh9)
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"Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (7zeA4) "
As a millennial with a liberal arts degree, "unemployed bum" was actually overachieving.
I mean, think how much worse it could have been - I could have been a Vox or Buzzfeed writer. *shudders*
As a millennial with a liberal arts degree, "unemployed bum" was actually overachieving.
I mean, think how much worse it could have been - I could have been a Vox or Buzzfeed writer. *shudders*
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 27, 2016 05:58 PM (kumBu)
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When I'm in that porch rocker I burn some calories rocking to the tunes. Even broke a rocking chair one time rocking so hard. But that brown stuff offsets any calories burn.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (mpXpK)
hehe
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:55 PM (mpXpK)
hehe
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 05:59 PM (qCMvj)
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>>>
*(28, actually - he's going to be 29 later this year)
thank you for your high level of precision
*(28, actually - he's going to be 29 later this year)
thank you for your high level of precision
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:59 PM (dciA+)
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*wanders back in from writing*
But but Outside it out to kill us! The squirrels man...
*goes back to writing about Krav Maga*
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Squirrels get exponentially more dangerous in packs.
But but Outside it out to kill us! The squirrels man...
*goes back to writing about Krav Maga*
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Squirrels get exponentially more dangerous in packs.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 27, 2016 05:59 PM (m3iiU)
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Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (dciA+)
I know, I might have to wear a hoodie with my shorts and flip flops.
I know, I might have to wear a hoodie with my shorts and flip flops.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:59 PM (+2TMo)
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Anyone else enjoy P90x3? I do mix in some P90x+ and a little P90x2 (regular P90x has too much standing around listening to Tony Horton talk between moves).
Did The Challenge yesterday and busted out 81 pull ups and 229 push ups. A little sore today.
Did The Challenge yesterday and busted out 81 pull ups and 229 push ups. A little sore today.
Posted by: Memories at September 27, 2016 06:00 PM (mwcEF)
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Had cookies and cream Ice cream, it isn't hurting me a bit.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 06:00 PM (JfUI4)
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Sitting in a duck blind in the middle of a swamp waiting over decoys while the sun comes up is pretty damn awesome. Then you hear the ducks circling around you.
You can not shoot til sunrise and they fly over you in the dark whistling like F-14. They come in an land, TOO early to shoot and you hope they have dumb friends that will follow them.
The dogs get excited. You need to pee, but you can't cause your in waders and it's SHOW TIME!
Damn. I have to book a hunt now.
You can not shoot til sunrise and they fly over you in the dark whistling like F-14. They come in an land, TOO early to shoot and you hope they have dumb friends that will follow them.
The dogs get excited. You need to pee, but you can't cause your in waders and it's SHOW TIME!
Damn. I have to book a hunt now.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 06:00 PM (NbJXF)
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Trying to avoid chocaolate and ice cream and stuff. A moment on the lips, years on the hips.
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speaking of hormones and weight loss,
it is the conventional wisdom that exercise is one tenth as important as diet in losing weight.
but that's based on strict calorie counts -- yes, a half hour of exercise burns, say, the calorie equivalent of a slice of bread or two.
But we now know that it is not calories in calories out -- hormones play a major role.
Ergo, as far as exercise: How can we be sure that exercise doesn't boost testosterone which, in turn, builds muscle and, oh yeah, also leans the body out?
(Testosterone leans the body, estrogen fattens it.)
So while I know it's true that diet is MORE important, I'm now questioning if the calories-in-calories-out estimate of exercise's contribution is in need of modification when you take the testosterone-producing effects of exercise into factor.
it is the conventional wisdom that exercise is one tenth as important as diet in losing weight.
but that's based on strict calorie counts -- yes, a half hour of exercise burns, say, the calorie equivalent of a slice of bread or two.
But we now know that it is not calories in calories out -- hormones play a major role.
Ergo, as far as exercise: How can we be sure that exercise doesn't boost testosterone which, in turn, builds muscle and, oh yeah, also leans the body out?
(Testosterone leans the body, estrogen fattens it.)
So while I know it's true that diet is MORE important, I'm now questioning if the calories-in-calories-out estimate of exercise's contribution is in need of modification when you take the testosterone-producing effects of exercise into factor.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:02 PM (dciA+)
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I don't exercise at all. I work seven days a week & am too tired for that.
LCHF works. Just stat the course during periods of non weight loss.
Also I'm 53 so the age thing doesn't seem to be affecting me.
LCHF works. Just stat the course during periods of non weight loss.
Also I'm 53 so the age thing doesn't seem to be affecting me.
Posted by: #1lurker at September 27, 2016 06:02 PM (EBjxR)
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172 Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Martinis!
Martinis!
Posted by: fly gal at September 27, 2016 06:03 PM (8TdcF)
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I don't know how much overall play it will get but at least for me here Trump has his ad at the top of YouTube that plays with his kids talking about him, such as interrupting a conference with a CEO to talk to them for a few minutes. That monster.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 27, 2016 06:04 PM (z/Ubi)
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@ 282 (Ace)."Maybe if youre stuck you should increase your calories, 1500 is low. adding extra protein correlated with me coming out of the stall."
Thanks Ace, I will try that. I'll add a few extra slices of bacon and an egg or two and see what happens and report back next week.
Thanks Ace, I will try that. I'll add a few extra slices of bacon and an egg or two and see what happens and report back next week.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at September 27, 2016 06:05 PM (cCxiu)
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Steak, no potatoes or veggies...............
Fried chicken?
Fried chicken?
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 06:05 PM (JfUI4)
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ace--
I think that's true. Packing on fat OR muscle must necessarily increase your BMR, which means you burn more calories, so it can't just be that your exercise only burns the calories at the moment it's being done. I guess there could be an exact trade off of BMR when you lose fat and gain muscle, but I personally find I generate a lot more heat when muscled.
Another thing you pointed out is that when you CAN move more and better, you DO move more and better. That's gotta add up over time.
I think that's true. Packing on fat OR muscle must necessarily increase your BMR, which means you burn more calories, so it can't just be that your exercise only burns the calories at the moment it's being done. I guess there could be an exact trade off of BMR when you lose fat and gain muscle, but I personally find I generate a lot more heat when muscled.
Another thing you pointed out is that when you CAN move more and better, you DO move more and better. That's gotta add up over time.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 06:06 PM (7zeA4)
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I'm down with anyone who wants to argue the CICO philosophy but bring something new to the table. Like, explain the number of fat people at 10Ks and half-marathons. How does that happen? They're burning up calories like crazy!
The problem with the CICO model is it ignores all the hormonal reactions and adaptations as weight is lost. The body likes fat because it is like an energy piggy bank. If you try to deplete your savings, your body will shut down withdrawals. Cheat meals and cheat days help because they reset hormone levels so your body feels more comfortable with lower fat reserves if it has higher calorie intakes every so often. You got to beat your evolutionary fat storing.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (QVVXM)
Ask those 10K's what they eat afterwards for a couple weeks. Guarantee you they are binging on the wrong stuff.
Do they drink "diet" soda or soda? Shouldn't even be in anyone's diet. But it is. It helps people who are dieting because they still crave sweet, but it is detrimental.
The CICO works if you parallel it with eating right and normal body management. Like Ace said above, water, for example. Some people do not drink water, or not near enough. And movement.
Our society does not treat our bodies "normally."
We sit, we sit, we sit. We don't drink water. We don't move. We sit.
I hate to bring up "Europeans" or city dwellers, but if you walk everywhere, if you can walk to the store, walk to the bus stop, walk to just about anywhere and not take a car, you are burning calories that should normally be burned daily.
Exercising once a day, or 5 times a week, or 6 times a week still might not do it because what do you do in between? Sit.
And yes, sleep is critical.
The problem with the CICO model is it ignores all the hormonal reactions and adaptations as weight is lost. The body likes fat because it is like an energy piggy bank. If you try to deplete your savings, your body will shut down withdrawals. Cheat meals and cheat days help because they reset hormone levels so your body feels more comfortable with lower fat reserves if it has higher calorie intakes every so often. You got to beat your evolutionary fat storing.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (QVVXM)
Ask those 10K's what they eat afterwards for a couple weeks. Guarantee you they are binging on the wrong stuff.
Do they drink "diet" soda or soda? Shouldn't even be in anyone's diet. But it is. It helps people who are dieting because they still crave sweet, but it is detrimental.
The CICO works if you parallel it with eating right and normal body management. Like Ace said above, water, for example. Some people do not drink water, or not near enough. And movement.
Our society does not treat our bodies "normally."
We sit, we sit, we sit. We don't drink water. We don't move. We sit.
I hate to bring up "Europeans" or city dwellers, but if you walk everywhere, if you can walk to the store, walk to the bus stop, walk to just about anywhere and not take a car, you are burning calories that should normally be burned daily.
Exercising once a day, or 5 times a week, or 6 times a week still might not do it because what do you do in between? Sit.
And yes, sleep is critical.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 06:06 PM (qCMvj)
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Ace - do i remember correctly something in a prior week's Monday moron thread - by you I think - about pork rinds and some kind of dip?
That sounds like something I'd like to try. Could you or whomever it was let us know what the dip was?
Thanks!
That sounds like something I'd like to try. Could you or whomever it was let us know what the dip was?
Thanks!
Posted by: Littler me at September 27, 2016 06:07 PM (NPLj5)
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>>>So while I know it's true that diet is MORE important, I'm now questioning if the calories-in-calories-out estimate of exercise's contribution is in need of modification when you take the testosterone-producing effects of exercise into factor.
Exercise is important in sending the signal to the body to preserve muscle - that when choosing where to sacrifice, burn the fat and don't waste the muscle. Reducing muscle lowers caloric requirement of body, so helps it adapt to calorie deficit. Preserving muscle is either high protein (PSMF) or exercise by lifting weights (or both). Testosterone will drop with caloric deficit. Exercise will spike it up, and cheat or reset periods (refeeds) can restore it. Losing weight while keeping lean tissue is a two steps forward, one step back process.
Exercise is important in sending the signal to the body to preserve muscle - that when choosing where to sacrifice, burn the fat and don't waste the muscle. Reducing muscle lowers caloric requirement of body, so helps it adapt to calorie deficit. Preserving muscle is either high protein (PSMF) or exercise by lifting weights (or both). Testosterone will drop with caloric deficit. Exercise will spike it up, and cheat or reset periods (refeeds) can restore it. Losing weight while keeping lean tissue is a two steps forward, one step back process.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:08 PM (QVVXM)
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One would think sleep is critical, I use to be a solid 8hrs a night kind of guy. But doesn't seem to work anymore.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 06:08 PM (JfUI4)
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Ergo, as far as exercise: How can we be sure that exercise doesn't boost
testosterone which, in turn, builds muscle and, oh yeah, also leans the
body out?
Numerous studies have shown that lifting weights DOES boost testosterone in men, which helps build muscle and thus lean the body out. Testosterone is the key hormone for men; it's the driver for men's health.
testosterone which, in turn, builds muscle and, oh yeah, also leans the
body out?
Numerous studies have shown that lifting weights DOES boost testosterone in men, which helps build muscle and thus lean the body out. Testosterone is the key hormone for men; it's the driver for men's health.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:09 PM (y0er3)
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Going to go see what this Trump thread is all about.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 06:09 PM (JfUI4)
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People having trouble getting to sleep might want to try something from the transcendental meditation folks. One of the things that they stress is that you should be sitting when you do their techniques because if you are lieing down you will fall asleep.
OK. I am more interested in a good night sleep than in achieving cosmic consciousness. Just lie down and think about your breathing, inhaling and exhaling. When other thoughts bubble up,don't get upset, just let them go and go back to thinking about your breathing.
OK. I am more interested in a good night sleep than in achieving cosmic consciousness. Just lie down and think about your breathing, inhaling and exhaling. When other thoughts bubble up,don't get upset, just let them go and go back to thinking about your breathing.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 27, 2016 06:11 PM (Q1gLD)
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Hey Zombie -
Broseidon nailed it - you could lift weights until the cows come home and you will not get the musclebound body you're avoiding.
My wife has been an avid weightlifter for 35 years...and if she were any leaner I'd be worried about her.
Broseidon nailed it - you could lift weights until the cows come home and you will not get the musclebound body you're avoiding.
My wife has been an avid weightlifter for 35 years...and if she were any leaner I'd be worried about her.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:12 PM (y0er3)
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You can also use a milk frother. for the bulletproof coffee. They are 10 dollars or so.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (+2TMo)
Thanks, CaliGirl. I have one I've used exactly twice, so I'll try that.
Some smart commenter here suggested the stick blender a while back, so I've been using that. I'm lazy too, so I blend it in a tall coffee mug, but I have to pulse it or else it's Whee! coffee everywhere.
Because of shart-fear, I was using too little butter, but now that I use at least a T of butter it tastes great to me.
I should be trying to lose weight, but by doing the easy IF breakfast skip, I've been able to maintain well below my max fat-pants weight.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 27, 2016 05:30 PM (+2TMo)
Thanks, CaliGirl. I have one I've used exactly twice, so I'll try that.
Some smart commenter here suggested the stick blender a while back, so I've been using that. I'm lazy too, so I blend it in a tall coffee mug, but I have to pulse it or else it's Whee! coffee everywhere.
Because of shart-fear, I was using too little butter, but now that I use at least a T of butter it tastes great to me.
I should be trying to lose weight, but by doing the easy IF breakfast skip, I've been able to maintain well below my max fat-pants weight.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:13 PM (ozZau)
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Had run 34 days in a row up until Friday. Then got sick as a dog on Saturday. Fever, sweats as it broke, GI issues, the works. Start again as soon as I'm fully recovered. I hate getting sick
Posted by: Chris not rock at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (dyaak)
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>>>Ask those 10K's what they eat afterwards for a couple weeks. Guarantee you they are binging on the wrong stuff.
No, their body just has adapted. There was an article many many years ago about an endurance athlete that looked like a chub. Would routinely beat guys with six packs, lean, everything. His diet was good. But his body just had adapted to (a) be surprisingly energy efficient during exercise, even long exercise , and (b) to downshift amazingly fast afterwards in terms of slowing metabolism.
This is key to progressing steadily, perhaps even slowly. This goes for gaining muscle as well. If you ramp up volume or load too quickly, you find that you will stall sooner and it will take even more volume to progress and eventually even the same volume to maintain. So progress as far as you can at a certain level before jumping up to the next step.
No, their body just has adapted. There was an article many many years ago about an endurance athlete that looked like a chub. Would routinely beat guys with six packs, lean, everything. His diet was good. But his body just had adapted to (a) be surprisingly energy efficient during exercise, even long exercise , and (b) to downshift amazingly fast afterwards in terms of slowing metabolism.
This is key to progressing steadily, perhaps even slowly. This goes for gaining muscle as well. If you ramp up volume or load too quickly, you find that you will stall sooner and it will take even more volume to progress and eventually even the same volume to maintain. So progress as far as you can at a certain level before jumping up to the next step.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (QVVXM)
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artisanal 'ette --
Yeah, they do eat badly sometimes, I think. I know one who binges on chocolate, for example. Doesn't explain the WHY, though. That is, one thing IF has shown me is how variable the whole hunger/satiety thing is. We treat it like it's God in this society. "Peckish? Good lord, eat before you pass out!"
As for diet soda, I drink it. I've found it not to be at all problematic. And I'm coming from a paranoid place of worrying about toxins and aspartame-causes-brain-cancer, etc.
"The CICO works if you parallel it with eating right and normal body management. Like Ace said above, water, for example. Some people do not drink water, or not near enough. And movement."
Hmmm: "eating right" and "normal body management" are kind of the "black lives matter" of weight control. You may have heard that there is some disagreement not just on what constitutes "eating right" but also how much "movement" constitutes "normal body management" to say nothing of how those interact. Fung, for example, notes that attempts to make kids exercise more results in compensating lack of movement when they're not being corralled.
Much like the chubby mini-marathoners, we respond to "I exercised" with "now I don't have to move any more".
I've done the water thing, too, where I drank regularly, anywhere from a half-gallon to over a gallon a day. It's got some merits, I think, but it's a small piece of the puzzle, IMO.
But, in all seriousness, thank you for raising some credible points for CICO.
Yeah, they do eat badly sometimes, I think. I know one who binges on chocolate, for example. Doesn't explain the WHY, though. That is, one thing IF has shown me is how variable the whole hunger/satiety thing is. We treat it like it's God in this society. "Peckish? Good lord, eat before you pass out!"
As for diet soda, I drink it. I've found it not to be at all problematic. And I'm coming from a paranoid place of worrying about toxins and aspartame-causes-brain-cancer, etc.
"The CICO works if you parallel it with eating right and normal body management. Like Ace said above, water, for example. Some people do not drink water, or not near enough. And movement."
Hmmm: "eating right" and "normal body management" are kind of the "black lives matter" of weight control. You may have heard that there is some disagreement not just on what constitutes "eating right" but also how much "movement" constitutes "normal body management" to say nothing of how those interact. Fung, for example, notes that attempts to make kids exercise more results in compensating lack of movement when they're not being corralled.
Much like the chubby mini-marathoners, we respond to "I exercised" with "now I don't have to move any more".
I've done the water thing, too, where I drank regularly, anywhere from a half-gallon to over a gallon a day. It's got some merits, I think, but it's a small piece of the puzzle, IMO.
But, in all seriousness, thank you for raising some credible points for CICO.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 06:16 PM (7zeA4)
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Try frying your veggies in bacon fat, or dressing the steamed veggies in bacon fat and good seasonings. Everything tastes better fried in bacon fat or god butter.
Beans are lowish carb and high fiber. You can make or buy hummus if you like that. I'm pretty much chili and pork and beans for my legumes but most canned pork and beans probably wouldn't be low carb.
Beans are lowish carb and high fiber. You can make or buy hummus if you like that. I'm pretty much chili and pork and beans for my legumes but most canned pork and beans probably wouldn't be low carb.
Posted by: Palerider at September 27, 2016 06:17 PM (dkExz)
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Stace,
Are you Centex or some other part?
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (y0er3)
Sort of, south Centex: San Antonio
Are you Centex or some other part?
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (y0er3)
Sort of, south Centex: San Antonio
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Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (QVVXM)
I've read reports/studies (easy to google if you're interested) that have shown that just as weightlifting has been demonstrated to boost testosterone production, sustained cardio work (in the realm of 10k or farther) has been shown to depress testosterone production for 24-48 hours following a long-distance run. I found that interesting as in my younger years, I was a distance runner as well as a weight lifter.
Not sure how much validity there is to it, but I've read it in more than one place.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:14 PM (QVVXM)
I've read reports/studies (easy to google if you're interested) that have shown that just as weightlifting has been demonstrated to boost testosterone production, sustained cardio work (in the realm of 10k or farther) has been shown to depress testosterone production for 24-48 hours following a long-distance run. I found that interesting as in my younger years, I was a distance runner as well as a weight lifter.
Not sure how much validity there is to it, but I've read it in more than one place.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:19 PM (y0er3)
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chris-not-rock:
Good to see you, man! Sorry about...the flu? Sounds awful. I'm going to try the run-every-day thing but I've found it's really depressing when it's 90 here. (I mean, 90 degrees at night, when I run.) Hopefully through that now.
Good to see you, man! Sorry about...the flu? Sounds awful. I'm going to try the run-every-day thing but I've found it's really depressing when it's 90 here. (I mean, 90 degrees at night, when I run.) Hopefully through that now.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 06:19 PM (7zeA4)
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>>>Packing on fat OR muscle must necessarily increase your BMR,
they've already figured the post-workout-elevated-metabolism when they offer the low calroic impact of exercise. even adding that in, it's lower.
but assuming you've prodded your body to produce more leaning hormones -- that might result in more GAINZZZ
they've already figured the post-workout-elevated-metabolism when they offer the low calroic impact of exercise. even adding that in, it's lower.
but assuming you've prodded your body to produce more leaning hormones -- that might result in more GAINZZZ
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:20 PM (dciA+)
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Sort of, south Centex: San Antonio
Ah. I think in my perfect world, I'd live just south of SA - far enough south to pretty much wipe out what passes for winter around here. SA is about 3-3.5 hours from me, depending on traffic. Not far distance-wise, but plenty far weather-wise.
Ah. I think in my perfect world, I'd live just south of SA - far enough south to pretty much wipe out what passes for winter around here. SA is about 3-3.5 hours from me, depending on traffic. Not far distance-wise, but plenty far weather-wise.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (y0er3)
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>>>Because of shart-fear, I was using too little butter, but now that I use at least a T of butter it tastes great to me.
i don't know if it's butter that causes sharts. I think MCT oil is the culprit. at least it was in my one incident.
i don't know if it's butter that causes sharts. I think MCT oil is the culprit. at least it was in my one incident.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (dciA+)
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Umm good butter. Not sure what god butter would be.
Posted by: Palerider at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (dkExz)
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>:>ve read reports/studies (easy to google if you're interested) that have shown that just as weightlifting has been demonstrated to boost testosterone production, sustained cardio work (in the realm of 10k or farther) has been shown to depress testosterone production for 24-48 hours following a long-distance run. I found that interesting as in my younger years, I was a distance runner as well as a weight lifter.
Not sure how much validity there is to it, but I've read it in more than one place.
i believe it. I don't do cardio unless it's high impact explosive cardio, like windsprints or the like (which is functionally like weightlifting as far as T-effect).
Not sure how much validity there is to it, but I've read it in more than one place.
i believe it. I don't do cardio unless it's high impact explosive cardio, like windsprints or the like (which is functionally like weightlifting as far as T-effect).
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:23 PM (dciA+)
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Sixkiller--
Rob Fagin's "Hormonally Intelligent Exercise" argues that you get the good hormones for the first 40 minutes of working out, in the next 20 you get a balance of good and bad, and after an hour, the bad overbalances.
He has cortisol as the villain here, catabolic vs. anabolic, etc.
His books are ridiculously footnoted with research references.
I don't want to shock anyone but there's a lot of contradictory information out there.
Rob Fagin's "Hormonally Intelligent Exercise" argues that you get the good hormones for the first 40 minutes of working out, in the next 20 you get a balance of good and bad, and after an hour, the bad overbalances.
He has cortisol as the villain here, catabolic vs. anabolic, etc.
His books are ridiculously footnoted with research references.
I don't want to shock anyone but there's a lot of contradictory information out there.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 06:23 PM (7zeA4)
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Volek at OSU did a study recently of elite endurance athletes between low carb and high(ish) carb and found a higher fat burning rate among the low carb athletes but also similar muscle glycogen levels and similar glycogen synthesis during recovery.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:24 PM (QVVXM)
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I bought a Keto Diet recipe book by Maria Emmerich and it has a lot of really great information about how to successfully follow a keto diet and recipes and whatnot. I have learned a few things I was doing wrong in my IF and dieting. I have only had it a couple of days and I lost 3 pounds doing IF correctly. So I should be on a better track now.
I still have 47 pounds to go.
I still have 47 pounds to go.
Posted by: Lily(Formerly of Hot Air) at September 27, 2016 06:24 PM (vivhj)
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i believe it. I don't do cardio unless it's high impact explosive
cardio, like windsprints or the like (which is functionally like
weightlifting as far as T-effect).
Yup. I've read that in more than one place too.
cardio, like windsprints or the like (which is functionally like
weightlifting as far as T-effect).
Yup. I've read that in more than one place too.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:24 PM (y0er3)
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>>>Ace - do i remember correctly something in a prior week's Monday moron thread - by you I think - about pork rinds and some kind of dip?
That sounds like something I'd like to try. Could you or whomever it was let us know what the dip was?
Thanks!
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right i forgot to do that. the idea is just to make onion dip (sour cream mostly fat) and use pork rinds as "potato chips."
That sounds like something I'd like to try. Could you or whomever it was let us know what the dip was?
Thanks!
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right i forgot to do that. the idea is just to make onion dip (sour cream mostly fat) and use pork rinds as "potato chips."
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:25 PM (dciA+)
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>>they've already figured the post-workout-elevated-metabolism when they offer the low calroic impact of exercise. even adding that in, it's lower.
I mean =permanently=. Like, they can't really calculate how much muscle mass you'll GAINZ from a lift. (Can they?) But as you're doing this over and over, you are gaining muscle mass and that effects you positively until you lose it--which would be something else they can't possibly know. (Right? I'm now wondering about ...y'know... the NSA and Google...they know everything...)
I mean =permanently=. Like, they can't really calculate how much muscle mass you'll GAINZ from a lift. (Can they?) But as you're doing this over and over, you are gaining muscle mass and that effects you positively until you lose it--which would be something else they can't possibly know. (Right? I'm now wondering about ...y'know... the NSA and Google...they know everything...)
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 06:25 PM (7zeA4)
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45 minutes is supposedly the magic number, but you don't turn into a pumpkin if you workout for 75. Lots of OCD in the gym. I see guys drinking a protein shake in the locker room with a guys hairy ass in their face because GAINZZZZ, but that is results at the 1-2% level. Norb Schemansky ate pizza and drank beer. Do what's necessary but don't fixate excessively on minutia.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:29 PM (QVVXM)
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i don't know if it's butter that causes sharts. I think MCT oil is the culprit. at least it was in my one incident.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (dciA+)
Ah, good to know. I use just a splash of MCT because I prefer the butter taste. I may up the butter a bit, and then report back later on the state of my drawers.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (dciA+)
Ah, good to know. I use just a splash of MCT because I prefer the butter taste. I may up the butter a bit, and then report back later on the state of my drawers.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:31 PM (ozZau)
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Hey Broseidon -
You still here?
After a two-week de-load period I jumped back into deadlifting last Friday. I had a guy video my lifts, and it was as I suspected. I was borderline okay at 325 for 3 reps (and the lighter weights), but my form/technique went to shit when I jumped up to a single at 375. It sucked swamp water.
It's the downside of working out by myself, which is my only option when lifting in the fasted state. And I refuse to change and go back to evenings. I have soooo much more energy when lifting in the fasted state.
Anyway, I searched youtube and found numerous 'tutorials' on form/technique for deadlifting, and I will go back to basics this Friday and correct my shitty form.
In the meantime, here it is: http://preview.tinyurl.com/jrt6bmp
You still here?
After a two-week de-load period I jumped back into deadlifting last Friday. I had a guy video my lifts, and it was as I suspected. I was borderline okay at 325 for 3 reps (and the lighter weights), but my form/technique went to shit when I jumped up to a single at 375. It sucked swamp water.
It's the downside of working out by myself, which is my only option when lifting in the fasted state. And I refuse to change and go back to evenings. I have soooo much more energy when lifting in the fasted state.
Anyway, I searched youtube and found numerous 'tutorials' on form/technique for deadlifting, and I will go back to basics this Friday and correct my shitty form.
In the meantime, here it is: http://preview.tinyurl.com/jrt6bmp
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:32 PM (y0er3)
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Not far distance-wise, but plenty far weather-wise.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (y0er3)
So you're around Waco-ish? Some friends have a lakehouse in the region and love it.
Yeah, we don't get too much winter here except for occasional bitter blue northers. I may start walking again now that the heat and HUMIDITY have finally broken.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:22 PM (y0er3)
So you're around Waco-ish? Some friends have a lakehouse in the region and love it.
Yeah, we don't get too much winter here except for occasional bitter blue northers. I may start walking again now that the heat and HUMIDITY have finally broken.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:35 PM (ozZau)
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Holy Shit! I did not know Norb died a few weeks ago (September 7)! Great guy, I feel bad that I didn't know that or hear about it.
RIP NORB
RIP NORB
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:35 PM (QVVXM)
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Ah, good to know. I use just a splash of MCT because
I prefer the butter taste. I may up the butter a bit, and then report
back later on the state of my drawers.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:31 PM (ozZau)
Definitely the MCT. I didn't shart my pants, but it gave me the runs. So I backed off the MCT and kept the butter. No issues with the butter.
I prefer the butter taste. I may up the butter a bit, and then report
back later on the state of my drawers.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:31 PM (ozZau)
Definitely the MCT. I didn't shart my pants, but it gave me the runs. So I backed off the MCT and kept the butter. No issues with the butter.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:36 PM (y0er3)
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So you're around Waco-ish?
Yup. About 40 minutes west of Waco...unless the roads are torn up in McGregor as they are now...adds 12-15 mins to the trip.
Yup. About 40 minutes west of Waco...unless the roads are torn up in McGregor as they are now...adds 12-15 mins to the trip.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:38 PM (y0er3)
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Posted by: pookysgirl at September 27, 2016 05:53 PM (ar2KI)
Have you tried uncommon vegetables? Or different ways of cooking them?
Fennel? Baby bok choy?
Spinach with caramelized onions and sauteed mushrooms? Mashed sweet potatoes? Pureed cauliflower?
My parents were always the 'microwave a bag of veggies type' - I roasted, wet sautee, puree and generally have way more fun with them.
Have you tried uncommon vegetables? Or different ways of cooking them?
Fennel? Baby bok choy?
Spinach with caramelized onions and sauteed mushrooms? Mashed sweet potatoes? Pureed cauliflower?
My parents were always the 'microwave a bag of veggies type' - I roasted, wet sautee, puree and generally have way more fun with them.
Posted by: Disdainfullady at September 27, 2016 06:43 PM (pGfNT)
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I just skipped to the end of the comments, but you might want to check out Fung's latest blog post -- excess protein. It's a good reason for a stall and also 'splains why all those starvin' Marvin's in Africa have that bloated belly -- TOO MANY carbs and not enough protein.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've stopped eating earlier in the day and gone back to the 16/8 fast-eat schedule and two pounds have fallen off in two days. Eating toasted coconut with whole milk for breakfast helps a lot too.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've stopped eating earlier in the day and gone back to the 16/8 fast-eat schedule and two pounds have fallen off in two days. Eating toasted coconut with whole milk for breakfast helps a lot too.
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 06:44 PM (YeKKY)
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Here's the best 'how to' video I've ever seen on deadlifting. This guy is my new long distance coach.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jp4rnds
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jp4rnds
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 27, 2016 06:47 PM (y0er3)
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 27, 2016 06:48 PM (ozZau)
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To Ace's point on drinking water - I have found that if I stay hydrated I lose weight more consistently. Not sure if drinking water has any weight loss properties but it seems to help with the consistency of it for me. Or maybe it's that by staying hydrated I have less water based weight fluctuation. I have been lax on the hydration lately and routinely go down 4 pounds and then up 2 and then down 3 and so forth. So continuing the downward trend but in an up and down sort of way. When I stay hydrated there is less of that up and down. What I try to do is keep a huge cup of water - the kind you get at Rudy's when you order a large (unsweet) tea - always with me and refill as soon as it's empty. I find that I drink more water if I keep a couple lemon slices in my cup. Just not into the plain water so much I guess.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 06:51 PM (SUtNI)
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Ace, check out the "cruise control diet" (google it). I'm down 15 lbs in 27 days with no hunger. It's an easy and no nonsense approach and very simple to follow
Posted by: Rockysan99 at September 27, 2016 06:51 PM (Q2pWM)
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Hey, Pookysgirl, I usually serve portabella mushrooms and asparagus with steak. On the mushrooms I slice them and put them in a tinfoil pan and drench them in olive oil and sprinkle garlic powder and salt on them. I put the tin on the grill while I'm cooking steaks. The Asparagus I lay on a baking sheet and drench in olive oil and sprinkle salt on top - cook in the oven for about 20 minutes. Those sides never disappoint and you get the benefit of making peoples' pee smell funny.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 06:56 PM (SUtNI)
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Somebody has probably already mentioned this but immersion blenders are wonderful for making soups. It used to be a real pain in the ass to cook a potato or squash soup and then pour it into a blender, liquidfy it and then pour it back into the kettle for reheating. Now it's easy peasy.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 27, 2016 07:04 PM (P8951)
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The Asparagus I lay on a baking sheet and drench in olive oil and sprinkle salt on top - cook in the oven for about 20 minutes. "
My favorite way to cook asparagus! I usually sprinkle some grated Parmesan on it before roasting it.
My favorite way to cook asparagus! I usually sprinkle some grated Parmesan on it before roasting it.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 27, 2016 07:07 PM (P8951)
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Gizzainz:
Continue apace. (As always, these are Wii Pounds, so add 7 or so to get Real pounds.)
203.5 this morning. Has to be the least I've weighed since 2005. Under 200 by Christmas was my goal a few weeks ago - now, unless I plateau, I'm think I'll hit that by Halloween with room to spare.
Stalls: have completely abandoned weights for almost a month now. Afraid of fucking up my shit.
Continue apace. (As always, these are Wii Pounds, so add 7 or so to get Real pounds.)
203.5 this morning. Has to be the least I've weighed since 2005. Under 200 by Christmas was my goal a few weeks ago - now, unless I plateau, I'm think I'll hit that by Halloween with room to spare.
Stalls: have completely abandoned weights for almost a month now. Afraid of fucking up my shit.
Posted by: Knemon at September 27, 2016 07:10 PM (Rx36/)
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328 172 Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
I can't think of a side dish that isn't a vegetable or carb...a side of bacon would be overkill in the proten department although much appreciated by the 'rons, who think there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to bacon.
I can't think of a side dish that isn't a vegetable or carb...a side of bacon would be overkill in the proten department although much appreciated by the 'rons, who think there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to bacon.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 27, 2016 07:11 PM (P8951)
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I fell off the wagon. Jumping back on the thing before it runs me over. I'm happy with some of my strength gains. I can do real pushups and planks now. I'm back up to easily completing 30 minutes on the stairmaster. The Fitbit Charge my friend gave me is neat. I like the sleep tracker. I know I should be getting more sleep, but the time when everyone else goes to bed is MY time. I read and stay up too late. Six hours is about average for me. I've set a goal for seven hours a night. I know I need to drink more water during the day. It's probably not good for my teeth, but I've started drinking seltzer water. The La Croix drinks are great!
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 07:11 PM (/O5Ax)
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Pookysgirl, I'd love to get the recipe for the vegetarian platter at the local (illegals') Messican restaurant. They serve a tortilla with seasoned 'shrooms, sweet potatoes, onions -- to die for.
Not sure that's a typically South-of-the-Border dish or just bowing to vegans, but it sure is tasty.
Not sure that's a typically South-of-the-Border dish or just bowing to vegans, but it sure is tasty.
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 07:14 PM (YeKKY)
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Awesome Ace!!
Posted by: Isolden at September 27, 2016 07:18 PM (O7hFp)
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I can't think of a side dish that isn't a vegetable or carb..
Cauliflower is low carb. I made mashed cauliflower to go with the Green Goddess chicken recipe I tried out tonight. It was quite tasty.
Cauliflower is low carb. I made mashed cauliflower to go with the Green Goddess chicken recipe I tried out tonight. It was quite tasty.
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 07:26 PM (/O5Ax)
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Came across this recipe. Imma give it a try.
(apologize in advance if it posts weird)
Garlic Soup Recipe
Serves 4
26 garlic cloves (unpeeled)
2 tablespoons olive oil
2 tablespoons (1/4 stick) organic butter (grass fed)
1/2 teaspoon cayenne powder
1 heaping teaspoon turmeric
1/2 cup fresh ginger
2 1/4 cups sliced onions
1 1/2 teaspoons chopped fresh thyme
26 garlic cloves, peeled
1/2 cup raw, organic pastured milk or coconut milk (homemade is best) or your favorite substitute
3 1/2 cups organic vegetable broth
4 lemon wedges
Preheat oven to 350F. Place 26 garlic cloves in small glass baking dish. Add 2 tablespoons olive oil and sprinkle with sea salt and toss to
coat. Cover baking dish tightly with foil and bake until garlic is golden brown and tender, about 45 minutes. Cool. Squeeze garlic between fingertips to release cloves. Transfer cloves to small bowl.
Melt butter in heavy large saucepan over medium-high heat. Add onions, thyme, ginger and cayenne powder and cook until onions are
translucent, about 6 minutes. Add roasted garlic and 26 raw garlic cloves and cook 3 minutes. Add vegetable broth; cover and simmer until garlic is very tender, about 20 minutes. Working in batches, puree soup in blender until smooth (or use an immersion blender) Return soup to saucepan; add coconut milk and bring to simmer. Season with sea salt and pepper for flavor.
Squeeze juice of 1 lemon wedge into each bowl and serve.
(apologize in advance if it posts weird)
Garlic Soup Recipe
Serves 4
26 garlic cloves (unpeeled)
2 tablespoons olive oil
2 tablespoons (1/4 stick) organic butter (grass fed)
1/2 teaspoon cayenne powder
1 heaping teaspoon turmeric
1/2 cup fresh ginger
2 1/4 cups sliced onions
1 1/2 teaspoons chopped fresh thyme
26 garlic cloves, peeled
1/2 cup raw, organic pastured milk or coconut milk (homemade is best) or your favorite substitute
3 1/2 cups organic vegetable broth
4 lemon wedges
Preheat oven to 350F. Place 26 garlic cloves in small glass baking dish. Add 2 tablespoons olive oil and sprinkle with sea salt and toss to
coat. Cover baking dish tightly with foil and bake until garlic is golden brown and tender, about 45 minutes. Cool. Squeeze garlic between fingertips to release cloves. Transfer cloves to small bowl.
Melt butter in heavy large saucepan over medium-high heat. Add onions, thyme, ginger and cayenne powder and cook until onions are
translucent, about 6 minutes. Add roasted garlic and 26 raw garlic cloves and cook 3 minutes. Add vegetable broth; cover and simmer until garlic is very tender, about 20 minutes. Working in batches, puree soup in blender until smooth (or use an immersion blender)
Return soup to saucepan; add coconut milk and bring to simmer. Season with sea salt and pepper for flavor.Squeeze juice of 1 lemon wedge into each bowl and serve.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 07:31 PM (Enq6K)
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>>>362 45 minutes is supposedly the magic number, but you don't turn into a pumpkin if you workout for 75.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:29 PM (QVVXM)<<<
That's what I've long understood. But, I do 22 minutes of aerobic exercise rather than 45 as I'm far more likely to stick with it. Plus, it's about the length of a 30 minute TV show minus commercials (making my way through "Samurai Jack" these days).
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 06:29 PM (QVVXM)<<<
That's what I've long understood. But, I do 22 minutes of aerobic exercise rather than 45 as I'm far more likely to stick with it. Plus, it's about the length of a 30 minute TV show minus commercials (making my way through "Samurai Jack" these days).
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 27, 2016 07:32 PM (jV8Mq)
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Belly fat is a leading reason for heartburn and acid reflux.
Fun fact.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (d6TTt)
A good friend's husband was just diagnosed with esophageal cancer, caused by reflux. She said the Japanese have now incorporated endoscopies in their annual med check-ups because reflux/esophageal cancer is rampant there.
Fun fact.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (d6TTt)
A good friend's husband was just diagnosed with esophageal cancer, caused by reflux. She said the Japanese have now incorporated endoscopies in their annual med check-ups because reflux/esophageal cancer is rampant there.
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 07:32 PM (YeKKY)
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Oh and I bought and tried these noodles last night. Not bad if you're looking for a noodle/pasta/rice substitute that has 0 carbs.
Miracle Noodle:
http://tinyurl.com/jno7fjw
And their website:
http://tinyurl.com/goakyem
Miracle Noodle:
http://tinyurl.com/jno7fjw
And their website:
http://tinyurl.com/goakyem
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 07:35 PM (Enq6K)
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Speaking of fitness I just had some cheesecake and whipped cream...Didn't suck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (Ozsfq)
That's actually not bad, unless there's a ton of sugar in it -- which isn't normally in cheesecake.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (Ozsfq)
That's actually not bad, unless there's a ton of sugar in it -- which isn't normally in cheesecake.
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 07:36 PM (YeKKY)
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When you get thrown in the camps you can always slip through the bars.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (8ZskC)
Yet another "glass-half-full" (of water) kinda guy, eh?
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (8ZskC)
Yet another "glass-half-full" (of water) kinda guy, eh?
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 07:54 PM (YeKKY)
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So my birthday is on the horizon and kid wants to know what kind of cake I want since I'm lowcarb.
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (Om16U)
Cheesecake! It prolly wouldn't be too hard to look for a "diabetic" cheesecak. It should be crustless and probably made with a sugar substitute. Go heavy on the REAL whipped cream. Happy B-day!
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 05:01 PM (Om16U)
Cheesecake! It prolly wouldn't be too hard to look for a "diabetic" cheesecak. It should be crustless and probably made with a sugar substitute. Go heavy on the REAL whipped cream. Happy B-day!
Posted by: SMOD 2016! at September 27, 2016 07:55 PM (YeKKY)
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Vic--re exercise with neuropathy: I do 2 things that don't require clever feet: swimming and skiing. Swimming--well that's obvious. Skiing: you buckle your foot into a plastic boot--basically creating 2 club-feet. Instructors have told me they want to know I have it so they can adjust their instructions. Who knows?
Ace--my favorite explanation for the jagged line of weight loss and exercise gains was a guru who said, you plug along with no results and then one day your body says, My God, I think she means it! And change happens.
Ace--my favorite explanation for the jagged line of weight loss and exercise gains was a guru who said, you plug along with no results and then one day your body says, My God, I think she means it! And change happens.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at September 27, 2016 07:59 PM (pZEKq)
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Why can't you just use cream in your coffee. It's just liquid butter.
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 08:06 PM (Sp1NT)
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Yuck. A no sugar cheesecake is not going to be delicious.
Might as well eat a really really good high fat cheese.
Might as well eat a really really good high fat cheese.
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 08:09 PM (Sp1NT)
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Thanks for miracle noodle,tip. Im running out of ways to replace super carby things in meals I make for the men in my family. Cauliflower rice was a big hit. No one can eat Brussel sprouts, even with bacon. Noodles could be very handy.
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 08:12 PM (Sp1NT)
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I boxed in college (Naval Academy) and let's just say that since getting out of the navy and 3 boys I got a "dad bod." Now I'm using Isagenix and it is awesome!
If you're stuck in a rut like I was this is probably the best way to get out of it and into your best body.
If you want to see some results and have some questions feel free to email me: mclean_chris@hotmail.com
Or check out a video that I have up at www.healthyfitfun.isagenix.com
If you're stuck in a rut like I was this is probably the best way to get out of it and into your best body.
If you want to see some results and have some questions feel free to email me: mclean_chris@hotmail.com
Or check out a video that I have up at www.healthyfitfun.isagenix.com
Posted by: Chris at September 27, 2016 08:13 PM (P/L8t)
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SarahW, don't know if you've tried it yet but spaghetti squash is also a great substitute....or zoodles, zucchini noodles.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 08:14 PM (Enq6K)
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Oh and the bags of Miracle noodles aren't big. I used the fettuccine one last night and there was just enough for my husband and myself.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 08:15 PM (Enq6K)
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You can do it! Exercise isn't the big thing as far as weight loss, but it can certainly help one's spirits, so you might look into doing something low-key. I'm doing Maffetone which is big on a "no pain" approach, and it does work. (Fellow moron "chris not rock" is my inspiration here; he's done it for years.)
Change your approach up a bit to keep it interesting and be sure to note all your wins: As ace pointed out a few weeks back, you make progress and then you FORGET you've made it, and you just look at where you are now. It can make it easy to get discouraged.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (7zeA4)
Thanks very much for the suggestion for excercise ---and general buck-up. I'm intrigued by Maffetone because I had I think success training myself along those lines before, becoming much fitter than I expected or meant to be.
I have what I think is probably a labral tear in one hip.Strait line walking isn't painful, but there are some issues with joint rotation and navigating wacky terrain. If it's something else, excercise might make me better, so I'm game to try.
Change your approach up a bit to keep it interesting and be sure to note all your wins: As ace pointed out a few weeks back, you make progress and then you FORGET you've made it, and you just look at where you are now. It can make it easy to get discouraged.
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 05:39 PM (7zeA4)
Thanks very much for the suggestion for excercise ---and general buck-up. I'm intrigued by Maffetone because I had I think success training myself along those lines before, becoming much fitter than I expected or meant to be.
I have what I think is probably a labral tear in one hip.Strait line walking isn't painful, but there are some issues with joint rotation and navigating wacky terrain. If it's something else, excercise might make me better, so I'm game to try.
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 09:01 PM (Sp1NT)
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Ace, I seriously had to look up,what planks are. I guess I'll try some. They look possible.
My Swedish isn't very good but good enough that I can worry in it. I can practice my Swedish football chants, though, that might work. http://youtu.be/EzGCNZDe9bU
My Swedish isn't very good but good enough that I can worry in it. I can practice my Swedish football chants, though, that might work. http://youtu.be/EzGCNZDe9bU
Posted by: SarahW at September 27, 2016 09:11 PM (Sp1NT)
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Attagirl, SarahW!
And if exercise doesn't make it better, do a different kind of exercise. Maffetone's all about the walking, because it's simple and generally non-traumatic, but you can do anything that gets your heart rate to 180-age!
And if exercise doesn't make it better, do a different kind of exercise. Maffetone's all about the walking, because it's simple and generally non-traumatic, but you can do anything that gets your heart rate to 180-age!
Posted by: moviegique at September 27, 2016 09:19 PM (CcUfv)
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>>>ce, I seriously had to look up,what planks are. I guess I'll try some. They look possible.
they're doable, but be careful, they're harder than they look -- don't get discouraged when they're hard.
I was surprised at how hard they were.
But just hold the pose for however long you can, 20 seconds, 15, 30, whatever, and just start lengthening that hold.
they're doable, but be careful, they're harder than they look -- don't get discouraged when they're hard.
I was surprised at how hard they were.
But just hold the pose for however long you can, 20 seconds, 15, 30, whatever, and just start lengthening that hold.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 10:30 PM (dciA+)
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The problem with being last to the thread is you're looking at a good 30 minutes to scroll through the comments. Still worth it to find the government sanctioned food pyramid troll got the boot.
Kudos to everyone who is enjoying the tasty benefits of plants and animals while giving the middle finger to the crony capitalist diet of corn, wheat and soy. Healthy whole grains my ass. Not my line, but whole grain is like putting a filter on a cigarette.
Ace, glad you didn't get discouraged during your stall. From a state of mind perspective, which I may have said last week, but lost my connection and don't think it posted, you're not on a diet. You've adopted a lifestyle. Once you accept that, everything will take care of itself.
I've been doing this shit for years now. Even without the exercise portion, your body will, over time, conform to a shape that allows you to physically do what you need to do day in, day out. Doesn't matter if you believe we were designed by God or the product of evolution, but there is a blueprint and everyone reading on Mondays is getting let in on the knowledge.
Kudos to everyone who is enjoying the tasty benefits of plants and animals while giving the middle finger to the crony capitalist diet of corn, wheat and soy. Healthy whole grains my ass. Not my line, but whole grain is like putting a filter on a cigarette.
Ace, glad you didn't get discouraged during your stall. From a state of mind perspective, which I may have said last week, but lost my connection and don't think it posted, you're not on a diet. You've adopted a lifestyle. Once you accept that, everything will take care of itself.
I've been doing this shit for years now. Even without the exercise portion, your body will, over time, conform to a shape that allows you to physically do what you need to do day in, day out. Doesn't matter if you believe we were designed by God or the product of evolution, but there is a blueprint and everyone reading on Mondays is getting let in on the knowledge.
Posted by: Desmondo at September 27, 2016 10:30 PM (zsQy2)
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>>>Why can't you just use cream in your coffee. It's just liquid butter.
you can but butter has marginally more fat. it might also have different fat, maybe more of the medium chain triglycerides that are said to be more readily usable as energy.
you can but butter has marginally more fat. it might also have different fat, maybe more of the medium chain triglycerides that are said to be more readily usable as energy.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2016 10:32 PM (dciA+)
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NORB IS MY HOMEBOY
RIP
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJgOwy2WYqw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4wAnW7tCU
(He did kind of look like a giant Andy Richter in some pics looking at them now but SO WHAT IT'S NORB!!)
RIP
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJgOwy2WYqw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4wAnW7tCU
(He did kind of look like a giant Andy Richter in some pics looking at them now but SO WHAT IT'S NORB!!)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 11:23 PM (+b2T3)
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Generally I have to come in here and put my foot down on some misinformation, but I see the Head Moron has done it for me. Bummer. I love telling people who think Atkins/keto/LCHF doesn't work how much weight I've lost. It never gets old, even if their bullshit does. (for the record: generally for breakfast I eat a six-egg cheese omelette and a flax muffin, lunch is a big-ass salad with half a bottle of blue cheese dressing, and dinner is a steak big enough to dent the hood of a fucking Prius. I don't know exactly how much weight I've lost, but I've been doing this for 18 months and my back-of-the envelope figuring suggests that if I haven't already lost more poundage than Ace currently weighs, at the rate we're going that inflection point will happen soon.)
___
deplorable @votermom, @96: So my birthday is on the horizon and kid wants to know what kind of cake I want since I'm lowcarb.
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
Google "Atkins-friendly" or "keto" or "LCHF" before anything and you'll usually wind up with a workable substitute. A certain woman who thinks the way to my heart is through my stomach generally makes me yummy desserts every weekend, but I'd still like her without them (it doesn't hurt, though). She made me an almond-and-coconut-flour cake with a cream-cheese frosting that was tremendous. Right now I'm having a "brownie" that is basically fudge and is high-fat as hell (butter, butter, more butter, unsweetened chocolate, more butter).
If you don't want to bake, though, I've found success by adding enough Splenda to cream cheese to make it cheesecake-ish then beating it to softness (nuke it for 30 seconds at a time) and dumping it in a crushed-nut crust. Front to back, probably no more than 20 minutes of work. Actually, come to think of it, I did bake the crust because I used eggs as a binder. When I'm really lazy, though, I do the same thing in a Tupperware bowl and mash some blueberries in it until it has the consistency of pudding. Add whipped cream, too.
___
pookysgirl, @171: Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is
NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal
planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Guacamole. Technically not a vegetable.
Seriously, though, you should probably be having a salad a day to get your vitamins and fiber in and that seems like a good time to have one. I posted this recipe in a previous M4 thread: spinach, olive oil, bacon crumbles, minced red onion, bleu cheese crumbles, sliced hard boiled egg, chopped walnuts. You'll thank me.
___
GAINZ, bitchez:
5x5:
squat: 120
bench: 110
row: 110
shoulder press: 80 (THAT was a bitch, though. my left shoulder is wonky and always has been. but if you want a laugh, do a YouTube search for "south bend cubs mike foul ball" and watch me get drilled)
deadlift: 210
I don't think my muscles are that much bigger but I'm getting toned as hell. Like, I can tell the difference between each muscle in my thighs and ass. Also, I'm losing my cankles. I can feel how far up my Achilles goes. It's pretty awesome.
___
deplorable @votermom, @96: So my birthday is on the horizon and kid wants to know what kind of cake I want since I'm lowcarb.
I don't want to bake one.
Any suggestions for cake that is not too bad a cheat?
Google "Atkins-friendly" or "keto" or "LCHF" before anything and you'll usually wind up with a workable substitute. A certain woman who thinks the way to my heart is through my stomach generally makes me yummy desserts every weekend, but I'd still like her without them (it doesn't hurt, though). She made me an almond-and-coconut-flour cake with a cream-cheese frosting that was tremendous. Right now I'm having a "brownie" that is basically fudge and is high-fat as hell (butter, butter, more butter, unsweetened chocolate, more butter).
If you don't want to bake, though, I've found success by adding enough Splenda to cream cheese to make it cheesecake-ish then beating it to softness (nuke it for 30 seconds at a time) and dumping it in a crushed-nut crust. Front to back, probably no more than 20 minutes of work. Actually, come to think of it, I did bake the crust because I used eggs as a binder. When I'm really lazy, though, I do the same thing in a Tupperware bowl and mash some blueberries in it until it has the consistency of pudding. Add whipped cream, too.
___
pookysgirl, @171: Ok, all you people who are on HFLC, what do I serve with steak that is
NOT a vegetable or a carb? Because that's where I get stuck in meal
planning. "Ok, we've got meat and... what else?"
Guacamole. Technically not a vegetable.
Seriously, though, you should probably be having a salad a day to get your vitamins and fiber in and that seems like a good time to have one. I posted this recipe in a previous M4 thread: spinach, olive oil, bacon crumbles, minced red onion, bleu cheese crumbles, sliced hard boiled egg, chopped walnuts. You'll thank me.
___
GAINZ, bitchez:
5x5:
squat: 120
bench: 110
row: 110
shoulder press: 80 (THAT was a bitch, though. my left shoulder is wonky and always has been. but if you want a laugh, do a YouTube search for "south bend cubs mike foul ball" and watch me get drilled)
deadlift: 210
I don't think my muscles are that much bigger but I'm getting toned as hell. Like, I can tell the difference between each muscle in my thighs and ass. Also, I'm losing my cankles. I can feel how far up my Achilles goes. It's pretty awesome.
Posted by: @irishmikecomedy at September 28, 2016 02:46 AM (eFFhZ)
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Lightning Bolt!
If you can't do coffee, try a rooibos chai tea. It stands up to the grass fed butter and MCT oil.
Good stuff.
If you can't do coffee, try a rooibos chai tea. It stands up to the grass fed butter and MCT oil.
Good stuff.
Posted by: MC at September 28, 2016 03:54 AM (PLpMe)
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Did the butter coffee with a blender this morning.
O M F G
What a difference.
The first cup slid down my throat in 30 seconds flat.
It's like drinking dessert.
I will try to slow down with the second cup.
O M F G
What a difference.
The first cup slid down my throat in 30 seconds flat.
It's like drinking dessert.
I will try to slow down with the second cup.
Posted by: Sixkiller at September 28, 2016 09:48 AM (y0er3)
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