Breitbart/Gravis Marketing Poll: Trump, Clinton Tied 43-43... <i>In Minnesota?</i>

Breitbart/Gravis Marketing Poll: Trump, Clinton Tied 43-43... In Minnesota?

The other states polled in this round aren't so great for Trump -- the Breitbart/Gravis poll has him behind in North Carolina and Pennsylvania.

It is interesting to see Minnesota tied, though.

Obviously, this could be an outlier, one of those one-in-twenty polls that are straight-up wrong.

But... eh, I'll be keeping my eye on Minnesota now.

The previous poll of Minnesota, by a different firm, had it Clinton +6.

Posted by: Ace at 04:00 PM

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1 HIya!!!!!!

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 04:01 PM (oGNNA)

2
So.... I can start following the polls and watching the news again?

I was going to swear off until the next debate.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 04:02 PM (oGNNA)

3 Minnesota.

Posted by: An Observation at September 27, 2016 04:02 PM (SAMq1)

4 One can hope.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 27, 2016 04:02 PM (TnUKj)

5
Ace, remember this; the trunk on Al Franken's '76 Buick LeSabre is huuuuuge.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:02 PM (9P3OG)

6 Trump victory!

Ok, I don't know that for sure. I just like to imagine a whole bunch of MFMs, academics and Hollywood people offing themselves in protest....and to eliminate their carbon footprint for Mother Gaia...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 04:02 PM (/NlFx)

7 This guy can't win. Except for the states Reagan won and the one he didn't.

Posted by: x at September 27, 2016 04:03 PM (5zXx+)

8
Minnesota actually did elect Norm Coleman, fwiw. I admit, they also got Al Franken.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 04:03 PM (oGNNA)

9
Rush had a good take on the debate. I guess "good" in the sense that it was a very positive spin on Trump's performance.

For what it's worth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:03 PM (9P3OG)

10 This is good news eh?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 27, 2016 04:03 PM (6Ll1u)

11 8 Minnesota actually did elect Norm Coleman, fwiw. I admit, they also got Al Franken.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 04:03 PM (oGNNA)

See me at #5.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:04 PM (9P3OG)

12 (((Jesus Christ)))!

Posted by: The Deplorable Dick Poulin at September 27, 2016 04:04 PM (sMt7r)

13 Seems most snap polls sown on Fox think Trump won, and that was not withstanding Lestor pullin a Candy by giving out bullshit fact crap.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 04:04 PM (JfUI4)

14 minnesota is the state that gave us jesse ventura, minnesota don't give a fuck.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:05 PM (cPsPa)

15
You will elect Donald Trump

You will settle for Hillary Clinton

You will get the sword of Islam

Posted by: The Somali Voters of Minnesota at September 27, 2016 04:05 PM (oGNNA)

16 Hey Jinx - I'm headed out to Stratford Hall tomorrow with my sons and another boy. I'll wave in your general direction!

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:05 PM (xpSCc)

17 minnesota inflicted keith ellison on us as well. not dependable for anyone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:05 PM (cPsPa)

18 I don't understand North Carolina.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (1ZOkK)

19
See me at #5.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:04 PM (9P3OG)
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We were typing at the same time.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (oGNNA)

20 Trump has gotten momentum.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (SzZnW)

21 This doesn't really surprise me.
I live in a Blue State, in a non urban area, and there is precisely Zero enthusiasm for Clinton.

Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (d6TTt)

22 No way. Just look at all my great accomplishments and the many things I've done for this state and, dare I say, the nation?

Posted by: Stuart Smalley at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (u0s1P)

23 If it's this freaking close this close to the election, with ALL the money Hillary has urinating over the airwaves and all of the bashing of Trump by the media, I still see a Brexit surprise....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (/NlFx)

24 minnesota is the state that gave us jesse ventura, minnesota don't give a fuck.

Had Family in Minnesota..When I visited them they and their Friends even though Libs were none too fond of all the Somali"immigrants" there... Maybe they want Trump to do something about it...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (O2RFr)

25 I admit, they also got Al Franken.

Yeah, "got". Not elected, foisted upon. Did I mention he's a smug little bitch to boot?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (SeD0w)

26 High resolution picture of Hillary's pre written and typed crib notes she was reading from which a man with glasses was seen removing after the debate on camera.

Typed is key on the bottom part of the page. Decide for yourself but she is busted IMO.

http://tinyurl.com/gnglkhq

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 04:07 PM (XN4C4)

27 New Opinion Dynamics:

Colorado: Trump 42 - Clinton

Penn: Trump 44 - Clinton 44

Wisconsin: Clinton 44 - Trump 40

Maine: Trump 42 - Clinton 41

Posted by: its happening at September 27, 2016 04:07 PM (bsDXW)

28 There are so many polls coming out now that when I woke up this morning I didn't know if I was at titty bar or at a sausage fest.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (jxbfJ)

29 Colorado - Trump 42 - Clinton 42

ugh

Posted by: its happening at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (bsDXW)

30
Yeah, "got". Not elected
----------------

That's why I used two different verbs. The guy they elected and the guy they got were not the same guy.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (oGNNA)

31
ugh
Posted by: its happening at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (bsDXW)
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Ugh? Are you kidding? That's freaking crazy, Colorado tied.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (oGNNA)

32 Had Family in Minnesota..When I visited them they and their Friends even though Libs were none too fond of all the Somali"immigrants" there... Maybe they want Trump to do something about it...
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 27, 2016 04:06 PM (O2RFr)

minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (cPsPa)

33 Trump has some serious momentum in Penn, MN, Mi and WI.

Well he has some serious momentum everywhere except among Muslims.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (XN4C4)

34 16 If you come through south Stafford, wave at me Bluebell!

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (JtIBD)

35 How much of Minnesota's Trump love is due to the joys of Somali diversity?

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (Ee2nz)

36 This is Wolf Blitzer from CNN with breaking news: Hillary Clinton leads Donald "The Racist, Homophobe, etc" Trump by 456% to -50.2 in the latest National Poll. Standby for more great information for Nurse Cankles, I mean Nurse Ratchet, No... No... NO I mean Hillary Cliton, No Hillary Clinton throughout the day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (NuElX)

37 Semi on topic. CSPAN showed an '84 Reagan / Mondale debate the other night. You know, Mondale the liberal squish from liberal squish Minnesota?

Yeah, Mondale was attacking Reagan from the right. Said he hadn't reduced the deficit enough. Said he hadn't reduced the size of government enough.

This is only 30 mumble years ago and Mondale was to the right of the current GOPe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (mgbwf)

38 Living damn near MN (in their tv markets) there is no way Trump is up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (voOPb)

39 Minnesota actually did elect Norm Coleman, fwiw.

Dude, I know you're trying to use that as a positive, but...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (9krrF)

40 As far as polls go, I have always been mistrustful, because I had polling explained to me thoroughly, a long time ago.
So, there's no mystery, or sanctity to a poll.
I do know what I see around me, and what I see is Zero enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (d6TTt)

41
Colorado - Trump 42 - Clinton 42

ugh
Posted by: its happening at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (bsDXW)

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Oh never mind, once i scrolled up....

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (oGNNA)

42 Cavuto's show they are going on about Trump not giving up his tax info, but Leftists will just bust it over his head that he doesn't pay his fair share, they all think millionares should pay 98% anyway.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (JfUI4)

43 how about this site running a poll on who people think will win the election? not who they like or who they'll vote for, but who they expect to win.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (WTSFk)

44 28 There are so many polls coming out now that when I woke up this morning I didn't know if I was at titty bar or at a sausage fest.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (jxbfJ)

Reminds me of one of my favorite expressions:

"He's so unlucky, he could fall in a barrel of nipples and come out sucking his thumb."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (9P3OG)

45 minnesota politics is a rogues gallery

jesse ventura
al franken
keith ellison
mark dayton
whatshername klobuchar

freaking hall of shame

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (cPsPa)

46 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Two words:

Governor. Ventura.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (9krrF)

47 Ugh? Are you kidding? That's freaking crazy, Colorado tied.

---

Yes it is. Typo on the Clinton number

Posted by: its happening at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (bsDXW)

48 Huzzah!!!

Posted by: Golden Gophers for the Golden Scalp Weasel at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (1H9ox)

49 I don't understand North Carolina.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27,
*****
Me neither. From what I can surmise, UNC, Chappell Hill controls the whole state, the same way Dem Detroit anchors MI

Posted by: L, Elle at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6IPEM)

50 But... eh, I'll be keeping my eye on Minnesota now.

Those Vikings are delightful rascals, and such a perennial nemesis of the Cheeseheads.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (V+C3K)

51 I know we're going to see polls all over the place so I don't really pay much attention to them. I "think" Trump will get through to those who will go out and vote. I "don't think" Killary resonates well enough to cause people to go out and vote for her. I do think fraud will be rampant - like I believed it was in 2012. That is my big concern.

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (JtIBD)

52 If you come through south Stafford, wave at me Bluebell!
Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (JtIBD)
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I will and I shall!

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (xpSCc)

53 40 As far as polls go, I have always been mistrustful, because I had polling explained to me thoroughly, a long time ago.
So, there's no mystery, or sanctity to a poll.
I do know what I see around me, and what I see is Zero enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (d6TTt)

The thing to remember is, Hillary was supposed to be walking away with this leading by serious double digits. No matter who the candidate was.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (9P3OG)

54
Dude, I know you're trying to use that as a positive, but...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 04:09 PM (9krrF)
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Well, I'm just saying, Trump has to increase the margin of fraud over what Norm Coleman had. That's all, merely that.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (oGNNA)

55 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Two words:

Governor. Ventura.
...
Two more:
Al Franken

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (1H9ox)

56 But... eh, I'll be keeping my eye on Minnesota now.

I think it was Newt who said, if he's got Minnesota, he wins in a landslide.

May be an outlier is true.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (qCMvj)

57 Oh you betcha!! Norm and I are both on the Trump Train.

Posted by: Marge Gunderson at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (OD2ni)

58 The thing to remember is, Hillary was supposed to be walking away with this leading by serious double digits. No matter who the candidate was.

Why aren't I ahead by 50 points!!!

Hillary!

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (O2RFr)

59 49 I don't understand North Carolina.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27,
*****
Me neither. From what I can surmise, UNC, Chappell Hill controls the whole state, the same way Dem Detroit anchors MI
Posted by: L, Elle at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6IPEM)

Upper West Side, Park Slope and most of the Bronx.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (9P3OG)

60 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:08 PM (cPsPa)

People who live in fairly homogeneous areas with good government tend to be clueless about the actual joys of diversity and racial politics. They probably thought electing Obama would lead to racial healing.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (Ee2nz)

61 Mondale was attacking Reagan from the right. Said he hadn't reduced the deficit enough.

-
Like Hillary "Lockbox" Clinton.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (Nwg0u)

62 Me neither. From what I can surmise, UNC, Chappell Hill controls the whole state, the same way Dem Detroit anchors MI

Posted by: L, Elle at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6IPEM)

Yeah, Georgia is going to be close. The libs in Atlanta pretty much control the state.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1ZOkK)

63 But the Minnesota Somalian terrorist demo preferred Hillary over Trump by a wide 5:1 margin.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (8ZskC)

64
Polls, polls , everywhere a poll
Blockin' out the scenery, breaking my soul
Vote him, vote her, can't you read the poll?

Posted by: Electric Flag Hammer at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (9mTYi)

65
55 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Two words:

Governor. Ventura.
...
Two more:
Al Franken

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (1H9ox

2 more
Amy Kobachuer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (voOPb)

66 bluebell; Wipe your feet, supposed to be wet. Have fun, it is a beautiful mansion.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (TnUKj)

67 29 Colorado - Trump 42 - Clinton 42
ugh
Posted by: its happening
______________

Colorado is a prime destination for deep-thinking leftwingers who want to escape the utopia they created in California.

Posted by: Furious George at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (57K5j)

68 Sean Hannity has a lot of influence in MN. Call him and ask him.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1H9ox)

69

I do think this may be due to the Sharia creep there.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (qCMvj)

70
Would be nice to match up Oregon with Minnesota and have a golden beaver.

Just a thought.

*sigh*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (9P3OG)

71 Look for the polls by Friday to have Hillary up by 5 points across the board. Post debate bump! Hillary is back! The comeback kid! Hillary Healthy Again! Powering Through!

The stories practically write themselves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

72 The Somali thing has to be pushing some otherwise "nice" Minnesota Democrats to revaluate some things.

I will say though I can't put much stock in any Breitbart poll as it's almost an extension of the Trump campaign.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (2JFSt)

73 Minnesota: I never understood why Nanny Bloomberg didn't move there...

(think about it)

Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (TOk1P)

74 With the electoral map opening up, PA is no longer a must win for Trump. It may be a must win for Hillary.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (r1fLd)

75 71 Look for the polls by Friday to have Hillary up by 5 points across the board. Post debate bump! Hillary is back! The comeback kid! Hillary Healthy Again! Powering Through!

Probably...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (O2RFr)

76 From what I can surmise, UNC, Chappell Hill controls the whole state, ----

The 'triangle area', Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill. A ~~hotbed~~ nest of hyper-Progs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (9mTYi)

77 I was looking to see if they had a poll on Virginia, but I didn't see one.

I finally saw one yard sign here, in Oakton. For Hillary, natch. But usually by this time of year they are all over the place.

I just don't think there's much enthusiasm for anyone.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (xpSCc)

78 67 Posted by: Furious George at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (57K5j)

Don't leave out Missoula and Bozeman Montana....

I have finally been able to interact with locusts.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (SzZnW)

79 "49 I don't understand North Carolina.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27,"

A lot of NYers relocate there, I believe, and bring the politics with them.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (OD2ni)

80 "minnesota politics is a rogues gallery...freaking hall of shame"

Feh. Cincinnati mayor Jerry Springer.

Resigned after he paid a prostitute with a personal check.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (fVubI)

81 71 The stories practically write themselves.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

Journolist they much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (9P3OG)

82 Damn it, Ace. Stop trying to encourage me to hope. Unrelieved despair is no fun but it is better than the crash due to unwarranted hope that we experienced in November of 2012.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (MaTi4)

83 Gravitas poll.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 04:15 PM (IqV8l)

84 That's freaking crazy, Colorado tied.

-
If Trump takes Colorado I'll say it's hip to be square. If not, I'd better hedge my best and get this joke in now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:15 PM (Nwg0u)

85 What would progs do if "fair" and "share" didn't rhyme?

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 27, 2016 04:15 PM (ucKOk)

86 68 Sean Hannity has a lot of influence in MN. Call him and ask him.
Posted by: ajmojo

You're a great American!!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (OD2ni)

87 71 Look for the polls by Friday to have Hillary up by 5 points across the board. Post debate bump! Hillary is back! The comeback kid! Hillary Healthy Again! Powering Through!

The stories practically write themselves.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

Polls can say anything the pollsters want them to say.
But everyone knows this.

Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (d6TTt)

88 bluebell; Wipe your feet, supposed to be wet. Have fun, it is a beautiful mansion.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (TnUKj)
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Yeah, I was just looking at the weather and looks like thunderstorms all day. Oh well. I was hoping we could walk along the beach and look for shark's teeth, but doesn't look like it.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (xpSCc)

89 Hope is exercise for the soul.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (EdGEP)

90 Would be nice to match up Oregon with Minnesota and have a golden beaver.

Just a thought.

*sigh*
....
Or a menage a trois with South Carolina

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (1H9ox)

91 I agree. Best to expect and plan for the worst. And I do mean worst.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (39g3+)

92 But Intrade has Romney losing by 15 points!

Wait, what year is this?

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo b4 the trolls at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (bm4Kf)

93
A lot of NYers relocate there, I believe, and bring the politics with them.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 27, 2016 04:14 PM (OD2ni)

I have a friend who owns a catering business in Highlands, NC. She said they've been inundated with NY retirees who moved to FL, couldn't deal with the heat and hurricanes, and moved to the NC mountains.

They're known as "half-backs." (Moved halfway back home, got it?)

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (1ZOkK)

94 Feh. Cincinnati mayor Jerry Springer.

Resigned after he paid a prostitute with a personal check.

Many years ago, I had a friend who'd write things like "for sensual massage" or "various and sundry" in the note section of checks to grocery stores and whatever. Cracked me up, but I was always too boring to emulate.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (u0s1P)

95
Polls and lying and lying pollsters notwithstanding, I think psychologically and electorally with the actual voters (including many first-timers), Trump seems to be peaking at exactly the right time.

Dick status should still remain unsucked, but I'm feeling hesitatingly confident. More with each passing day.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (9P3OG)

96 I am ucKOk on this ip. Heh

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (ucKOk)

97 "Two words:
Governor. Ventura.
...
Two more:
Al Franken

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (1H9ox

2 more
Amy Kobachuer"

Don't forget me.

Posted by: Zombie Paul Wellstone at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (OD2ni)

98 77 There is a large military truck with a huge Trump sign sitting at the intersection at the Stafford courthouse. I've seen Trump signs and bumper stickers in a lot of neighborhoods. Not a single Killary sign. And some guy had a yuuuge Trump flag in the bed of his brand new pickup truck and was riding around Central Park on Saturday. Lots of cheering as he rode around. Good times.

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (JtIBD)

99 90
Or a menage a trois with South Carolina
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:16 PM (1H9ox)

It would take a game cock, wouldn't it?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (9P3OG)

100 Somebody who's good at Photoshop needs to do a Joker version of her last night with her fixed Dr Sardonicus smile-

then loop a soundtrack of her cackling.

+1000 creepiness points

And, what the heck do a Photoshop of her made up like "Barf" from "Spaceballs" and loop her barking with that one.

Then unleash them on twitter and the inter tubes.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (0cMkb)

101 I fear fraud.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (EdGEP)

102 What would progs do if "fair" and "share" didn't rhyme?

Tear out their hair?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (ApT0U)

103 North Carolina though is still a red leaning, purple state.

I think Trump will win it.

VA and Colorado are the bigger questions in my opinion.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (2JFSt)

104 Let's go really, really bigly and shoot for all 57 states!

Posted by: washrivergal madly and deeply deplorable at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (CFc5L)

105 Election night is going to be bedlam.

Their models that decide when to call a state ain't gonna' work. And the newsdesks will rather eat a turd than call a state for Trump.

I'm going to watch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:18 PM (Fv8UY)

106 Technically Colorado isn't a square, since it's defined by curves on a globe that are not geodesic.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2016 04:19 PM (bm4Kf)

107 Dick status should still remain unsucked, but I'm feeling hesitatingly confident. More with each passing day.

Posted by jj sefton

Me too. Based on personal observations.
For Obama, there was much virtue signalling enthusiasm around where I live.
For She-Beast, silence. Loud silence.

Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:19 PM (d6TTt)

108
85 What would progs do if "fair" and "share" didn't rhyme?

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Smart parts! It's wealth redistribution for the wired-in generation! If you don't part (with your wealth), you're not smart!

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:19 PM (oGNNA)

109 There is a large military truck with a huge Trump sign sitting at the intersection at the Stafford courthouse. I've seen Trump signs and bumper stickers in a lot of neighborhoods. Not a single Killary sign. And some guy had a yuuuge Trump flag in the bed of his brand new pickup truck and was riding around Central Park on Saturday. Lots of cheering as he rode around. Good times.
Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (JtIBD)
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That's good to hear. There are a lot of Marines in Stafford from Quantico, no?

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (xpSCc)

110 I want to BELIEVE!

Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (9221z)

111 A lot of NYers relocate there, I believe, and bring the politics with them.
Posted by: Benji Carver
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We are eaten up with them.
Also, colleges and universities that are hyper-Progressive. Duke, UNC (and all of it's branches), Davidson, etc.

The two major papers in the state are (News and Observer (McClatchey), Charlotte Observer(Gannett) are both total Dem promotion/propaganda all of the time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (9mTYi)

112 SIX WEEKS TO GO FAGGOTS!!!! LET'S DO THIS!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

:::goes back to writing poetry:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (QVVXM)

113 If Trump wins, he's going to flip a lot of "safe" states and throw everything on its head. Seriously its going to scramble brains if he somehow wins this, because it will destroy everything pundits have relied on and understand for how to analyze and predict races.

Which is good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (39g3+)

114 Hillary is bound to have another "health issue" in the next 6 weeks. I don't want her dropping dead so that Lie-awatha or Lurch or Plugs can try to horn in. I would just like the drip drip drip of scandal and ill health to continue. The public won't vote for a terminally ill canklebeast.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (43OZ6)

115 It would take a game cock, wouldn't it?
....
ISWYDT. Well played.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (1H9ox)

116 Breitbart News?
Those're the guys that told me President Romney was going to win

Posted by: Hobbiehawk at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (Qot/z)

117 "I have a friend who owns a catering business in Highlands, NC. She said they've been inundated with NY retirees who moved to FL, couldn't deal with the heat and hurricanes, and moved to the NC mountains.

They're known as "half-backs." (Moved halfway back home, got it?)"

That's great. Another problem with them is that they still vote (Dem) in multiple states taking advantage of absentee ballots.

Posted by: Zombie Paul Wellstone at September 27, 2016 04:20 PM (OD2ni)

118 Technically Colorado isn't a square, since it's defined by curves on a globe that are not geodesic.

I was told there would be no trigonometry on this blog

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (39g3+)

119 Election night is going to be bedlam.

Their models that decide when to call a state ain't gonna' work. And the newsdesks will rather eat a turd than call a state for Trump.

I'm going to watch.
Posted by: ScoggDog

I won't trust anything until I see the candidate publicly declare.

I remember Bush in 2000

And in 2004, supposedly the Exit Polls had Kerry winning easily

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (2JFSt)

120 The polls mean nothing because no one can predict what the turnout is going to be. All I can surmise is that Trump and Hillary are fairly close and several states that are toss-ups are ones that normally each side counts as theirs at the beginning.

My only hope is that Trump somehow would win early and then the anchors spend the night crying on TV.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (Ee2nz)

121 So what's the narrative if Trump loses and he outperforms Romney and McCain?

I mean, the never trump types have assured me a Trump win is impossible, and he's going to get wiped out a la Goldwater.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (Uy8SG)

122 With Hillary maxing out the race card last night - after all if all Americans are racist who is there to look down your nose at - I have to wonder where the left goes from here.

Posted by: An Observation at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (DjRJ+)

123 I don't understand North Carolina.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 27,
*****
Me neither. From what I can surmise, UNC, Chappell Hill controls the whole state, the same way Dem Detroit anchors MI

Posted by: L, Elle at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6IPEM)

And Crook County outweighs the rest of Illinois. Heavy areas of lefty dopes, LIVs, and FSA throw the electoral votes of a whole state

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (493sH)

124 68 Sean Hannity has a lot of influence in MN. Call him and ask him.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1H9ox)

That made me chuckle.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (voOPb)

125 Election night is going to be bedlam.

And still I sing bonnie boys, bonnie mad boys
Bedlam boys are bonnie
For they all go bare and they live by the air
And they want no drink nor money.

Sorry, just got overtaken by Steeleye Span jag.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (mgbwf)

126 What would progs do if "fair" and "share" didn't rhyme?

------------------

Smart parts! It's wealth redistribution for the wired-in generation! If you don't part (with your wealth), you're not smart!
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo
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Actually, though it doesn't rhyme, I'm surprised that they haven't floated 'Smart Taxation'. That's where others pay more than you do.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (9mTYi)

127 Dick status should still remain unsucked

I understand certain 'ettes are trying to exert a civilizing influence, and change this meme to something involving pudding cups.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (V+C3K)

128 106 Technically Colorado isn't a square, since it's defined by curves on a globe that are not geodesic.

Then how do we know it's not banana shaped?
This new learning astounds me.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (ucKOk)

129
89 Hope is exercise for the soul.

----------------

Because you'll need to be strong when disaster strikes.

Sorry, but that's the only way I can complete that thought.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (oGNNA)

130 109 Yes there are a lot of Marines and their families down this way and lots of government worker bees and commuters. I am hoping lots of people turn out to vote - it was a good turnout for the rally.

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (JtIBD)

131 Election night is going to be bedlam.

Their models that decide when to call a state ain't gonna' work. And the newsdesks will rather eat a turd than call a state for Trump.

How long is it gonna take, though? If a few states are razor-close, it could approach 2000-levels of the race not being called.

Though if Trump wins enough battlegrounds by, like, ten points each, and it's undeniable early enough, man oh man. I'll need to find or make a list of when each state's polls close.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (u0s1P)

132 I won't trust anything until I see the candidate publicly declare.

If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)

133 121
So what's the narrative if Trump loses and he outperforms Romney and McCain?

I mean, the never trump types have assured me a Trump win is impossible, and he's going to get wiped out a la Goldwater.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (Uy8SG)
What's the narrative? We're f*cked. And at this point, what does it matter?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (jxbfJ)

134 I am unfortunately starting to see signs for Hillary and one (1) bumper sticker with the H arrow. In Boulder County.

Also saw a sign for Gary Johnson. This one was in Boulder Junior, aka Louisville.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (bm4Kf)

135 NCAA and ACC boycott really hurting GOP governor and he is popular, that is dragging down Trump.

NC is the state that elected Jesse Helms TWICE. He was ALWAYS behind in the polls and won both times by about three points.

Lots on North Carolina folks keep to themselves til they vote.

NC will not have the black turnout, Trump will take it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (NbJXF)

136 The libs that run Minneapolis, St. Paul and Duluth would vote for anyone with a D. I doubt this poll is accurate. BUT, and although this is totally unscientific. In a land with actually over 11,000 lakes and too many liberal idiots, I have hardly seen any Hillary signs. Usually by now I see them on cars and yards. I doubt I've seen 5 all year!!!! That's yuuuge in this state. My guess is they'll still vote for her but the enthusiasm gap is big. I would love to see Hilldary get crushed here though.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (rGKzf)

137 So what's the narrative if Trump loses and he outperforms Romney and McCain?

I mean, the never trump types have assured me a Trump win is impossible, and he's going to get wiped out a la Goldwater.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand

They will pretend Trump lost all 57 states.

The GOP-E candidates though are never told to explain themselves for their losses.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (2JFSt)

138 If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)
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I think you're right. She'll hang on like grim death.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (xpSCc)

139 With Hillary maxing out the race card last night - after all if all Americans are racist who is there to look down your nose at - I have to wonder where the left goes from here.

Doubles down: "All your unborn children are racists too!"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (ApT0U)

140 Is there a state farther left than Minnesota? I mean, we can bandy about California, Hawaii, and Massachusetts all the live-long day, but is seems to me that Minnesota as a voting bloc has a history of being the leftmost bookend on the shelf. Anyone out there who can put me some knowledge?

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 27, 2016 04:24 PM (iIzG7)

141 Gravitas poll.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 04:15 PM (IqV8l)

Myasthenia/Gravis Poll: Dems are choking on it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 04:24 PM (TOk1P)

142 Outlier.

Move along.

Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Hank at September 27, 2016 04:24 PM (+bUOv)

143 129

89 Hope is exercise for the soul.

----------------

Because you'll need to be strong when disaster strikes.

Sorry, but that's the only way I can complete that thought.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM (oGNNA)

Hope. Hope I have secluded myself far enough from risk of bedlam. Hope I have enough ammo for food and protection.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2016 04:24 PM (jxbfJ)

144 Let us not forget, Reagan did not break out until after the second debate. Trump needs to get his act together, NOW

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (NbJXF)

145 Hmmmm. For whatever reason, I feel a damned sight for optimistic with Trump than I ever did with Mitt.
That guy was a bowl of white rice, for me.

Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (d6TTt)

146 So what's the narrative if Trump loses and he outperforms Romney and McCain?

I mean, the never trump types have assured me a Trump win is impossible, and he's going to get wiped out a la Goldwater.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (Uy8SG)

Hillary was such a horrible candidate that any decent, America-loving (and isn't everyone in the world American?) candidate would have wiped the floor with her. But not, you rubes in flyover country didn't die like KDW commanded and now look who won.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (Ee2nz)

147 Wow so going to Midwest Democrats and promoting moderate liberalism can get them to vote Republican.

This is great news for people who want to be misgoverned by moderate liberals.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (EioIi)

148 65
55 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Two words:

Governor. Ventura.
...
Two more:
Al Franken

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (1H9ox

2 more
Amy Kobachuer
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (voOPb)

ok ladies, if you were reading more closely you would have noticed all your observations were noted well before you got started. see #45 listed below

also, my comment was "generally, historically"

45 minnesota politics is a rogues gallery

jesse ventura
al franken
keith ellison
mark dayton
whatshername klobuchar

freaking hall of shame
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (cPsPa)

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (cPsPa)

149 138
If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)

--------------------

I think you're right. She'll hang on like grim death.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (xpSCc)

A strobe light straight to her eyes will solve that.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (jxbfJ)

150 Breitbart/Gravis Marketing Poll: Trump, Clinton Tied 43-43... In Minnesota?

Sorry, not buying it. I reiterate my previously expressed skepticism about polls nowadays. Fun to think about it, but difficult to place any credence in them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (SRKgf)

151 "I have a friend who owns a catering business in Highlands, NC. She said they've been inundated with NY retirees who moved to FL, couldn't deal with the heat and hurricanes, and moved to the NC mountains.

They're known as "half-backs." (Moved halfway back home, got it?)"
----
'Half-back' is a common term here. You can identify them immediately. In conversation, they speak in NJ accent, when you ask where they are from, they say 'Florida'. I never let them off the hook, I always ask, "Yes, but where are you from originally?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (FNGGO)

152 Hope is exercise for the soul.

I like to exercise my 'hole.

Posted by: Hope Solo at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (2WoCi)

153 Kerry sucks so bad the Dems wouldn't dare run him again. Biden and Warren are a worry, but do have some vulnerabilities.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (bm4Kf)

154
in 2004, supposedly the Exit Polls had Kerry winning easily
Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:21 PM (2JFSt)
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Heh, they did indeed.

That was the first election where I was really tuned in, because I had switched parties after 9/11 and I wasn't a default-anything anymore. I listened to Randi Rhoades howling all night -- remember her? Then I had to get out of bed and read the comments at salon.com. It was heaven.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:26 PM (oGNNA)

155 "103 North Carolina though is still a red leaning, purple state.

I think Trump will win it.

VA and Colorado are the bigger questions in my opinion.
Posted by: Maritime"

I agree. Absent a total meltdown, it is fair to say at this point that Trump will win all Romney states, which includes NC. He also looks to be locking down FL, OH and IA (maybe even NV). Then he just needs one of those purplish states like CO or VA.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (OD2ni)

156 Let us not forget, Reagan did not break out until after the second debate. Trump needs to get his act together, NOW
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 04:25 PM (NbJXF)

It's not going to happen. Trump is not a good debater. He just isn't. If he holds his own without any major gaffes that's a win for him. Hillary's only hope is to make him out to be Hitler and an incompetent one at that. If she doesn't, she bleeds support.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (Ee2nz)

157 Is there a state farther left than Minnesota? I mean, we can bandy about California, Hawaii, and Massachusetts all the live-long day, but is seems to me that Minnesota as a voting bloc has a history of being the leftmost bookend on the shelf. Anyone out there who can put me some knowledge?
Posted by: Qoheleth

It actually in the 2000s looked to be a red-trending state, similar to Wisconsin.

Kerry only got 51% of the vote in 2004.

I wouldn't count on either MN or WI, but it's not like Maryland or something like that where it goes 20 points for the Democrats.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (2JFSt)

158 55 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

They could call the new country "Retardia."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (SRKgf)

159 It's as if my hash wants me to leave...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (FNGGO)

160 If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM
******
Same here. It has to be blow out akin to the Reagan landslide for her to concede. Anything that comes close, she will contest like Gore vs Bush.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (6IPEM)

161 7 This guy can't win. Except for the states Reagan won and the one he didn't.

Don't forget Mondale won Puerto Rico. And DC. And maybe Guam? Unfortunately for him, none of those have any electoral votes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (WlGX+)

162 Klobuchar sounds like something out of the Monster Manual.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (bm4Kf)

163 65
55 minnesota is generally, historically, an example of reason and good government, however, they did go for obama twice so they deserve their own little failed nation state.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Two words:

Governor. Ventura.
...
Two more:
Al Franken

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:11 PM (1H9ox

2 more
Amy Kobachuer
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 04:12 PM (voOPb)

ok ladies, if you were reading more closely you would have noticed all your observations were noted well before you got started. see #45 listed below

also, my comment was "generally, historically"

45 minnesota politics is a rogues gallery

jesse ventura
al franken
keith ellison
mark dayton
whatshername klobuchar

freaking hall of shame
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:10 PM (cPsPa)

...
Two more:
Keith Ellison

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (1H9ox)

164 I think Trump should have insisted Cankles do a urinalysis sample last night. Her eyes were really odd and her motions very slow and unanimated. Someone had to have given her some drugs so she would not fall down or crap in her pants !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (NuElX)

165 She'll concede after her Secret Service detail walks away from her.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (hqZPQ)

166 Yeah, I call BS on this poll. Not that Trump couldn't make a play for the Upper Midwest, given his blue-collar appeal, but a) I strongly doubt he can win a state that even Reagan couldn't get, and b) there's no way he would be losing NC while winning Minnesota, I don't care how purplish the Research Triangle tries to make the state.

Posted by: T at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (IKdzI)

167 You have to laugh. WSJ has story on Trump performance. Who do they quote?

Vin Weber, RINO supreme and never trumper, labeled as a Republican.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (NbJXF)

168 159 I laughed.

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (JtIBD)

169 Is there a state farther left than Minnesota? I mean, we can bandy about California, Hawaii, and Massachusetts all the live-long day, but is seems to me that Minnesota as a voting bloc has a history of being the leftmost bookend on the shelf. Anyone out there who can put me some knowledge?
Posted by: Qoheleth

I'd plump for MN. The most left-wing people I know here in CA came from MN. Of course, the Northeast and IL are giving them a run for their money.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (SRKgf)

170 With Hillary maxing out the race card last night - after all if all Americans are racist who is there to look down your nose at - I have to wonder where the left goes from here.

*ahem*

Posted by: The Vagina Card at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (8ZskC)

171 NCAA and ACC boycott really hurting GOP governor and he is popular, that is dragging down TrumP

Posted by NipSip

No one I know cares about this. Or if so, said it was an issue.

Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (zjvxX)

172
NC will not have the black turnout, Trump will take it.
Posted by: Nip Sip

They have until November to gin up the turnout.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (IqV8l)

173 I see lots of H signs in San Antonio. The Dems here are even invoking imagery of JFK,LBJ,Bubba,and BHO as a pantheon of great dems, with H implied to carry on the great legacy Jimmuh conspicuously not on the billboard.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (ucKOk)

174 Then how do we know it's not banana shaped?
Posted by: A Blinkin at September 27, 2016 04:22 PM

The secret is out. It is. And the person behind the movement to divide the State into two is ... Banana Splits Guy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (V+C3K)

175 Is there a state farther left than Minnesota? I mean, we can bandy about California, Hawaii, and Massachusetts all the live-long day, but is seems to me that Minnesota as a voting bloc has a history of being the leftmost bookend on the shelf. Anyone out there who can put me some knowledge?

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 27, 2016 04:24 PM
..............Outstate MN and the suburbs are pretty solid Rep. Minneapolis/St.Paul and the north shore (Duluth) are lock stock and barrel libs. We've had Rep governors and state houses controlled by reps. Just not Prez for some reason.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (rGKzf)

176 It's not going to happen. Trump is not a good debater. He just isn't. If he holds his own without any major gaffes that's a win for him. Hillary's only hope is to make him out to be Hitler and an incompetent one at that. If she doesn't, she bleeds support.
....
I can help him out.

Posted by: Master Debater at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)

177 Dick status should still remain unsucked, but I'm feeling hesitatingly confident. More with each passing day.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 04:17 PM (9P3OG)

Feeling a little better each day myself, although last night didn't help much. Nothing happened to cause me to want to place any trades or go buy a bunch of gins today.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (3sJ/S)

178 If Trump wins, he's going to flip a lot of "safe" states and throw everything on its head. Seriously its going to scramble brains if he somehow wins this, because it will destroy everything pundits have relied on and understand for how to analyze and predict races.

Which is good.

I don't think it's happened, but one theory about Trump was that he could flip New York and a few other states, at the risk of a few otherwise safe (R) states flipping too, basically scrambling the safe state-battleground dynamic we've had for so long.

My contention is that A) no, not really and B) if he wins New York or some other deep blue state, we will have won so many other states that it's more of a Reaganesque sweep than some complex thing.

Like how Republicans kinda have to have Ohio. There's nothing magical about Ohio itself (okay, its waterways sometimes catch on fire, that's supernatural in its own way), but by getting Ohio, you end up getting a lot of EVs along the way.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (u0s1P)

179 We Deploristanians will build a wall to keep out the Retardians.

And you know who's gonna pay for that wall?

Hint: they ain't called the Retardians for nuttin.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (WlGX+)

180 Check this out. Between last night and the next debate are 13 days. During those days, Hillary has only six scheduled events, one of which is a D.C. fundraiser (which will take her about 20 minutes, including the drive to and from home).

She has five scheduled campaign events in 13 days. Raleigh, Durham NH, Des Moines, and 2 events in Florida.

Her campaign is in bad shape but she can't get out there and campaign. Will the MSM ever tell anyone?

Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (/m8T6)

181 Purple and Green Lives Matter Too !!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (NuElX)

182 "Heh, they did indeed.

That was the first election where I was really tuned in, because I had switched parties after 9/11 and I wasn't a default-anything anymore. I listened to Randi Rhoades howling all night -- remember her? Then I had to get out of bed and read the comments at salon.com. It was heaven."

My favorite part was Susan Estrich having a meltdown on Fox while Michael Barone calmly explained that Bush would win Ohio based on the analysis of the results he was reading.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (OD2ni)

183 No internals here but looking at RCP

PA Scankles +3% but Dem/Rep/Ind = 49/41/6
2012 Obama won by 5%; so bad slant

NC Scankles +1% Dem/Rep/Ind = 35/28/37
2012 Obama lost, totally bad poll

MN I can find no Gravis poll recently on RCP for MN do can not tell.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (mpXpK)

184 They have until November to gin up the turnout.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (IqV8l)

Quick, the BLM signal!

Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (9221z)

185 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:27 PM (FNGGO)

You're OK. No "K".

Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (zjvxX)

186 She has five scheduled campaign events in 13 days.

Badass!

Posted by: Patton Oswalt, proud imbecile at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (2WoCi)

187 Between last night and the next debate are 13 days
------------------

I think the next debate is next week, is it not?

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (xpSCc)

188 Perhaps I'm being too optimistic but I really don't think that debate is going to change much.

I think the silent majority doesn't want violent Syrian jihadis settled in their neighborhood, doesn't want mexican drug cartels using our southern border as a trade highway, don't want their jobs shipped overseas or handed over to H1B slaves and do not want their teen daughters sharing their rest room with a grown man.

More and more it's getting obvious what you're going to get with Clinton. I just hope enough people open their eyes.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (1zARK)

189 "The secret is out. It is. And the person behind the movement to divide the State into two is ... Banana Splits Guy."

He's dreamy!!

Posted by: Winona Ryder at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (OD2ni)

190 They have until November to gin up the turnout.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 04:29 PM (IqV8l)

Quick, the BLM signal!
Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2016 04:30 PM (9221z)

yeah but they are ginning up the black vote by beating white people and destroy the assets or property owners.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (cPsPa)

191 ok ladies, if you were reading more closely you would have noticed all your observations were noted well before you got started.

Well I didn't see it, I post slow on busy days in my defense...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (9krrF)

192 Her campaign is in bad shape but she can't get out there and campaign. Will the MSM ever tell anyone?

Depends. Is there a way to blame it on Trump?

Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (8ZskC)

193 NC will not have the black turnout, Trump will take it.
Posted by: Nip Sip

I hope you're right, but i never really see anyone present evidence of it.

Maybe i keep missing your answer, but am i gonna collect on this bet?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (3sJ/S)

194 I strongly doubt he can win a state that even Reagan couldn't get, and b) there's no way he would be losing NC while winning Minnesota, I don't care how purplish the Research Triangle tries to make the state.
Posted by: T

A big reason why Reagan lost Minnesota was Mondale was the hometeam.

Had Mondale been from say Wyoming, Reagan would have carried the state.

That was still the era where a homestate politician on the ticket meant something.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (2JFSt)

195 Hillary, if she loses... unless its by a substantial margin, she'll hang in there yelling voter fraud and HOW CAN I NOT WIN BY 50 POINTS??? throwing things around. If I were on her staff, and things are going bad, I'd get out early. If she somehow wins despite bad news early on, I'd bring back something to celebrate with and claim I got supplies, but you don't want to be there when she goes down in flames, again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (39g3+)

196 Trump is not a good debater. He just isn't. If he holds his own without any major gaffes that's a win for him.

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For all his faults, Trump comes across as a real person, warts and all. Clinton does not. She comes across more a comic book villain.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (Nwg0u)

197 Why don't they ever have BLM Protests.... Say in Point Barrow, Alaska??? I am sure the 100% white population there is racist !!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:32 PM (NuElX)

198 Next debate is Oct. 9th
3rd is 10/19

Veep debate is next week, the 4th.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2016 04:32 PM (WlGX+)

199 We just checkin' de facts, checkin' de facts...

Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity at September 27, 2016 04:32 PM (8ZskC)

200 That was still the era where a homestate politician on the ticket meant something.
Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (2JFSt)
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I'm really hoping it doesn't for Virginia. I have hope for my little state this time.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (xpSCc)

201 That was still the era where a homestate politician on the ticket meant something.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (2JFSt)

Kiss my ass.

Posted by: Al Gore, TN's favorite son - or not at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (SRKgf)

202 No one I know cares about this. Or if so, said it was an issue.
Posted by: Golfman
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Me either. I expect Charlotte is a good deal more sensitive.

Stupid. The collusive media cannot bring themselves to simply state that the Charlotte City Council is wholly responsible for this. How could they?, the media were/are totally onboard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

203 She has five scheduled campaign events in 13 days.

Badass!

And they called Thatcher the Iron Lady.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (8ZskC)

204 :::combs hair, checks teeth:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (QVVXM)

205 A-lotta lakse in Minnesota IYKWIM.....

Posted by: MN DNC VOTER RELATIONS at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (NpXoL)

206
If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)
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(rummages around in box)

Ah, here it is, one of my broken records:

If Hillary loses, she will not give her own concession speech. She will instead have Chelsea deliver a call to liberal arms ("We may have lost this battle, but etc"). This will be the de facto kickoff of Chelsea's U.S. Senate run.

I admit, the problem with this prediction is the premise that the Clintons are entertaining the possibility of a loss.

But I think you're on the right track. I've looked at her concession speech from 2008 and you can tell she had her 2016 run planned even then. This year?

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (oGNNA)

207 Veep debate is next week, the 4th.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2016 04:32 PM (WlGX+)
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Ah, okay. Thanks.

Pence should mop the floor with Kaine but I've learned to temper my expectations. -_-

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (xpSCc)

208 Well I didn't see it, I post slow on busy days in my defense...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (9krrF)

yeah, I know, effin work gets in the way.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (cPsPa)

209 OK back to resting. Asthma and coughing blood do not a good mix make.

Posted by: turambar at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (JtIBD)

210 Minnesota is filling up with sharia types. Maybe people there are getting sick of it.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 27, 2016 04:34 PM (VDlGs)

211 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (mpXpK)

212 She has five scheduled campaign events in 13 days.

Badass!

Powering through!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (SRKgf)

213 Here is a little thing that should occur...if you knos who someone is "undecided" on who to vote for, and that person somehow becomes "decided" (in either direction) after the vice presidential debate...kick them in the junk.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (1H9ox)

214 We'll know if this poll is real if -

Duchess Yellowteeth shifts funding there.

MI had to be one of their "gimmes" so probably little or no money being spent there.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (0cMkb)

215 I know I could not handle that schedule!!! High Speed, Low Drag that she is !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (NuElX)

216 "201 That was still the era where a homestate politician on the ticket meant something.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (2JFSt)"

I doubt those redneck a-holes in Arkansas will be voting for me. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at September 27, 2016 04:36 PM (OD2ni)

217 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 04:33 PM (9mTYi)

I've beat that horse. Dead 4X.

Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 04:36 PM (zjvxX)

218 Isn't time for "Micheal" Obama, the first whatever it claims to be, to come to the rescue of Cankles ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:37 PM (NuElX)

219 Kiss my ass.
Posted by: Al Gore, TN's favorite son

Just to show though it does "matter", Bush got 51% in TN against Gore

In 2004 against Kerry, Bush got around 56%.

So I do think it made a slight difference.

And in 2012, Romney got almost 60% of the vote.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2016 04:38 PM (2JFSt)

220 213 Here is a little thing that should occur...if you knos who someone is "undecided" on who to vote for, and that person somehow becomes "decided" (in either direction) after the vice presidential debate...kick them in the junk.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 27, 2016 04:35 PM (1H9ox)

Kick them in the junk, then tell them to be sure to vote Democrat.

Actually, that's good advice generally speaking.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2016 04:38 PM (SRKgf)

221 "Isn't time for "Micheal" Obama, the first whatever it claims to be, to come to the rescue of Cankles ???"

More likely that Michael Obama will slay Cankles with her bat'leth and step in to come to the rescue of her par-tay.

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 27, 2016 04:39 PM (iIzG7)

222
I think the next debate is next week, is it not?
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:31 PM (xpSCc)

Oct 9th.VP debate is next Tues.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2016 04:42 PM (lKyWE)

223 I think MLB playoffs start on the 9th as well. Much more interesting to watch.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:45 PM (39g3+)

224 If Obama makes good on his promise to take off October to campaign for Hillary, that would be good for Trump....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 04:45 PM (X4jLi)

225
The nood is for (c)losers -- weight losers, that is, and exercise gainers and people who are sticking to their New Years resolutions.

(settles back into current thread)

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (oGNNA)

226 Yeah, the more people see of President Obama, the less they like him. 4 more years? Of this?

I think the one thing you can get most of America to agree on is that whatever we've been doing lately, we're doing it wrong and need to change.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (39g3+)

227 If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede.

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Bill will meet with Darth Vader Ginsberg, the Wise Latina, Elana Klingon, Big Boy Breyer, and the Incorruptible Roberts in a plane on the blacktop at an airfield in Little Rock and all votes against Hillary will be declared unconstitutional.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Nwg0u)

228 Many women say Trump showed too much testosterone at debate

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) -- Constant interruption. A condescending tone. Eye-rolling.

For many women, the presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was a case study in deja vu. For more than 90 minutes on a national stage, they said Tuesday, Trump subjected the first female presidential candidate from a major party to indignities they experience from men daily, in the workplace and beyond.

Posted by: undocumented fantasy Proctologist at September 27, 2016 04:49 PM (e8kgV)

229 In almost two weeks she will make one appearance in North Carolina yuppie country, on in a New Hampshire college town (with Bernie Sanders in tow), one in Iowa, a state she has little chance of winning and two rallies in Florida (in one day).

Over that time Michelle Obama will make more appearances than Hillary will, and a couple in battleground states too. Bill is out there a lot over this same time period, as is Princess Chelsea.

Hillary though will be home in bed.

Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 04:49 PM (/m8T6)

230 VP debate is next Tues.

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Undercard fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 27, 2016 04:50 PM (Nwg0u)

231 For many women, the presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was a case study in deja vu.

"Many" = the three chicks I have lunch with every day and bitch about men with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 04:52 PM (39g3+)

232
Anyone ever seen Pence debate? I know it doesn't much matter.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 04:53 PM (oGNNA)

233 This is late, but...

Hope Solo's hole is a window to her soul...

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (X4jLi)

234 Thank God men never interrupt, eye roll or condescend with each other.

I was at a table today with all al women colleagues except for one man. Someone woman used the word "mansplain" I laughed and said it was a ridiculous word..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 04:59 PM (EnGQE)

235 "For many women, the presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was a case study in deja vu."

Alternate opening paragraph from men's point of view....

(AP) For many men, watching the debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was a case study in deja-vu. For more than 90 minutes on stage, the former Secretary of State subjected Trump to all the indignities of vitriolic nagging and smug condescension they have come to expect from all the women in their lives especially wives and girlfriends....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (X4jLi)

236 The "thank" God etc. bit was sarcasm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (EnGQE)

237 138 If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)
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I think you're right. She'll hang on like grim death.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (xpSCc

or a rabid IRS lifer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 05:02 PM (voOPb)

238 Alternate opening paragraph from men's point of view

Which would be much more broadly applicable to the gender. He had to quietly stand by as she attacked him viciously with lies and slander, distorting his past and dragging up things from decades ago to savage him with.

An all-too-familiar experience for many men.

But we shrug and go on doing or thing without weeping into our class of wine. Nobody feels compelled to write about our pain because we don't need or want their sympathy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 05:03 PM (39g3+)

239 233 This is late, but...

Hope Solo's hole is a window to her soul...

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 04:55 PM (X4jLi)

Heh, and here I thought it was her colon. I'll be damned.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 05:03 PM (voOPb)

240 38 If it comes down to it, I do not expect Hillary to concede. Period.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fv8UY)
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I think you're right. She'll hang on like grim death.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 04:23 PM (xpSCc

or a rabid IRS life

The concession speech will be a eulogy and Bill will deliver it....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 05:04 PM (X4jLi)

241 Ace just banned Lincolnf.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (mpXpK)

242
Ace just banned Lincolnf.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:05 PM (mpXpK)
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Wow, on a non-content thread, too. He must have been extremely annoying.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (oGNNA)

243
The "thank" God etc. bit was sarcasm
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:00 PM (EnGQE)
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We got it, Fen. And quite confidentially, it's not wrong to indulge now and then.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (oGNNA)

244 Wow, on a non-content thread, too. He must have been extremely annoying.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:08 PM (oGNNA)

Isn't he annoying all the time?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (mpXpK)

245
I BELIEVE MAN HAS AN IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
Posted by: MIKE PENCE at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (XzRw1)
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That's why Trump picked you for VP and gave Myron Ebell the important job.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (oGNNA)

246 From NPR News, someone woman on the debate:
(paraphrasing)

"Donald Trump spoke about himself a lot. Such as when he brought up the birth certificate."

Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (NUqwG)

247 Someone had to have given her some drugs so she would not fall down or crap in her pants !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 04:28 PM (NuElX)

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ahem

Posted by: Hillary's Full Depends at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (6N+OU)

248
Isn't he annoying all the time?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:11 PM (mpXpK)
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lol, I hadn't noticed him in particular. There's a lot of us, often annoying others of us.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (oGNNA)

249 The MN Governor told citizens that had lived there for generations, to get out if they don't like the flood of Muslims he is inviting.

But then they had that Muslim slasher cutting up 9 or so, on a day when Muslims take over the maul for their holiday, but they don't shop.

It might be some people are going to wake up to the gov's insanity, especially when they read of Europe surrendering to the blade.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (n6rAX)

250 I BELIEVE MAN HAS AN IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
Posted by: MIKE PENCE at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (XzRw1)
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That's why Trump picked you for VP and gave Myron Ebell the important job.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (oGNNA)
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On the other hand, to deny any impact from the changing CO2 levels (from fuel burn) is idiotic.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2016 05:15 PM (NUqwG)

251 Well yeah everyone knows humans have an impact on weather. Its a question of degree, not whether it happens at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (39g3+)

252
From NPR News, someone woman on the debate:
(paraphrasing)

"Donald Trump spoke about himself a lot. Such as when he brought up the birth certificate."
Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2016 05:13 PM (NUqwG)
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I guess this is why it's no big deal that Hillary "won on points." The content truly doesn't matter.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (oGNNA)

253
a day when Muslims take over the maul for their holiday
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Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:18 PM (oGNNA)

254
Well yeah everyone knows humans have an impact on weather. Its a question of degree, not whether it happens at all.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 05:17 PM (39g3+)
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There we have it. I'd like to know what Mike Pence meant.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:19 PM (oGNNA)

255 nd quite confidentially, it's not wrong to indulge now and then.

I had a sarc tag in brackets but it got deleted. I think I'm sarcastic more than once in a while. One of my friends told me iI do it regularly IRL, which is probably not a good thing.

I had never heard the tern "mansplaining" except in reading it on the internet and I think its sounds ludicrous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (EnGQE)

256 Well MAN doesn't CAUSE Climate Change, but MAN does have an impact on it because MAN invented it....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 05:24 PM (X4jLi)

257
I had never heard the tern "mansplaining" except in reading it on the internet and I think its sounds ludicrous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:20 PM (EnGQE)
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Mansplain generally means One Thing. But I like the concept and I've adapted "splain" for a couple of purposes, resulting in such awkward terms as "aristosplain," varying to "elitesplain." I'm still not hitting it.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:25 PM (oGNNA)

258 "Mansplainin'." Isn't that what Ricky Riccardo always said to Lucy when she did something dumb?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2016 05:26 PM (X4jLi)

259 "aristosplain"

I probably shouldn't have laughed when she mansplain because then i felt bad. It's just that I've had women "womansplain" to me and I never called it that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:31 PM (EnGQE)

260 71 Look for the polls by Friday to have Hillary up by 5 points across the board. Post debate bump! Hillary is back! The comeback kid! Hillary Healthy Again! Powering Through!

The stories practically write themselves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Trump will be up by then and won't look back.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 27, 2016 05:31 PM (iWW0H)

261 What thread did Lincolntf get banned?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2016 05:32 PM (kTF2Z)

262 People who use words like "mansplain" and "trigger" automatically lose esteem in my eyes. Its like seeing a really beautiful woman light up a cigarette, I can practically hear that screeching 'stop the record' sound in my head.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2016 05:33 PM (39g3+)

263 Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2016 05:32 PM (kTF2Z)

The GAINZ thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:34 PM (EnGQE)

264 Here's some numbers. From 2004 to 2012 the Repub turnout was essentially flat about 60M. Obama was able to goose the numbers on the Dem side by about 12M in 2008. He was much less successful in 2012 and actually lost several million voters, people that actually did not decide to show up at the polls. My guess they were blue collar white voters who were also put off by Romney.

I believe that Trump has successfully pulled these people over to him, Ive meet some of these people, the effect is real. That has evened up the race. Trump is now trying to woo black voters to either get their votes or at least make them think twice about voting for Hillary. If the black tunout goes back to historical norms, Trump can win by 52 to 47 over Hillary. That means he will have pulled in about 5M who have never voted before or additional former Dem voters.

All those numbers are very doable.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 05:34 PM (rTMHK)

265 164 Someone had to have given her some drugs so she would not fall down or crap in her pants !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall

She couldn't take both, and she didn't fall down.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 27, 2016 05:35 PM (iWW0H)

266 NM, just found it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2016 05:36 PM (kTF2Z)

267 Thanks, Fen.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2016 05:37 PM (kTF2Z)

268 261
What thread did Lincolntf get banned?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2016 05:32 PM (kTF2Z)

The medical monitoring thread. He attacked Ace's dieting stuff.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:38 PM (mpXpK)

269 "On the other hand, to deny any impact from the changing CO2 levels (from fuel burn) is idiotic."

Since that isn't evenly distributed globally there should be a correlation between heat retention heavily developed latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere and largely vacant latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere. But there isn't. The best statement is they are not yet prepared to measure such a minimal and disparate effect.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at September 27, 2016 05:38 PM (EioIi)

270 I splained my ankle once.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 05:44 PM (IqV8l)

271 "That means he will have pulled in about 5M who have never voted before or additional former Dem voters.
All those numbers are very doable."

Spot on. I'd add that these new R voters tend to be located away from Deep Blue redoubts, so that they can swing Purple and Near Purple states.

Also expect lower turnout from the Young.

QED. How I get to at least 300 EVs

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2016 05:44 PM (r1fLd)

272 I guess I laughed because it was one of those times I don't tolerate nonsense. I mean, people sit around and use this term IRL?

There was another very sweet clergywoman-probably in her mid twenties saying that she goes to a clergy group with all men and they say "You need to be here with us praying on Wednesday morning." She said she couldn't because she has something else to do and was kind of offended that they said that. I said, "Isn't it possible that they meant it nicely-that they consider her a colleague and they want her company?" "Well", she said, "They'd said other things that indicate they're not receptive to woman in ministry." Oh my goodness , just live with it. If they really didn't want you there they wouldn't invite you (I didn't say that) Maybe I was that sensitive to perceived sexism when I was her age too, but just do what you have to do and if they;'re obnoxious just laugh it off She didn't use the word "mansplain" it was somebody else in reference to her. situation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:44 PM (EnGQE)

273 The medical monitoring thread. He attacked Ace's dieting stuff.

So silly. You shouldn't go into a guy's house and insult him without expecting to be shown the door.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:45 PM (EnGQE)

274 Spot on. I'd add that these new R voters tend to be located away from Deep Blue redoubts, so that they can swing Purple and Near Purple states.

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I was going to come back and add that, he is getting the people exactly in the places he needs them too.

It appears he is doing exactly what needs to be done to win the race. Can't ask for much more.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (rTMHK)

275 250 I BELIEVE MAN HAS AN IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
Posted by: MIKE PENCE at September 27, 2016 05:10 PM (XzRw1)
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That's why Trump picked you for VP and gave Myron Ebell the important job.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:12 PM (oGNNA)
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On the other hand, to deny any impact from the changing CO2 levels (from fuel burn) is idiotic.

Posted by: RioBravo

And on the other hand, CO2 is plant food and causative relationship to warming has never been proven or even indicated, and in fact warming is not even indicated or proven. Look out for all those ghost hurricanes.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 27, 2016 05:50 PM (iWW0H)

276
I probably shouldn't have laughed when she mansplain because then i felt bad. It's just that I've had women "womansplain" to me and I never called it that.

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Try not to feel bad about laughing. It's one of those terms that should always have ironic quotation marks.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 05:53 PM (oGNNA)

277 "a day when Muslims take over the maul for their holiday
"
Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo"

yes I lol'd after I posted ... one of those background brain typing things, wish I was that clever intentionally. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (n6rAX)

278 I'd give a little more credence to the gorebull enwarmenists if they didn't destroy their data, claim they have to adjust the raw data, then hide the raw data.

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at September 27, 2016 05:57 PM (9iR5/)

279 Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever.

It is really, Such s hame that it has to be used in regard to Somali Muslims causing problems. The Governor of MN sounds like the people in Sweden-"Well, get used to the violence. Heck with that!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 05:58 PM (EnGQE)

280 Don't forget (a) the most significant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapor (good ole H2O) and (b) the greenhouse effect of CO2 saturates around 800ppm; perfectly tolerable for animals and great for plants.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at September 27, 2016 06:00 PM (Eynls)

281 AGW is a scam and a fraud and everybody that pushes it for political reasons is a liar and con artist.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:00 PM (mpXpK)

282 nood political

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:01 PM (mpXpK)

283
yes I lol'd after I posted ... one of those background brain typing things, wish I was that clever intentionally. ha
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 05:56 PM (n6rAX)
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I say we keep it! I'm not sure exactly what "the mall" is in Washington D.C., but the next time something stupid happens there, I know what I'll call it.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Bingo at September 27, 2016 06:01 PM (oGNNA)

284 "And on the other hand, CO2 is plant food and
causative relationship to warming has never been proven or even
indicated, and in fact warming is not even indicated or proven. Look
out for all those ghost hurricanes."

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

yeah that could be a real winner, since a lot of people realize it is a scam.

There is decent evidence that arid areas have greened up due to increased CO2 (and since temps were constant for 18 years, the CO2 "greenhouse gas" thing can't be the main driver.)

I picture a brief ad, at least on youTube, where a guy in a greenhouse explains the elevated CO2 to help the plants. Then he could joke "do you see all this carbon in the air?" ha ha ... it's a harmless gas in tiny proportions, even when tripled. Maybe a comment about the true, "Greening of America".

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 06:04 PM (n6rAX)

285 "On the other hand, to deny any impact from the changing CO2 levels (from fuel burn) is idiotic."

If you understand hard science and math at a basic college level then you should know that the claims made for AGW, let alone CAGW, should be suspect.

Yes, CO2 traps heat, but CO2 is a trace gas. There just isn't enough of it in the atmosphere. And even with what's there, there's a saturation effect.

CAGW assumes positive feedback loops that amplify the effects of CO2. But positive feedback loops are rare in nature, and short-lived. e.g., nitrogen-based explosions.

I'd be under a mile of ice right now, just 10,000 years ago. Earth has had much higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere but didn't boil over. AGW and CAGW don't explain this.

Most importantly, AGW and CAGW conveniently ignore the possible effects that the Sun could be having on how hot is here on Earth.

I could go on. AGW and CAGW ignore every tenet of Science.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2016 06:07 PM (r1fLd)

286 @285 ignoramus

Raaaacist!

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at September 27, 2016 06:10 PM (Eynls)

287 Seriously, at 800ppm I expect the Sahara to go green again. Then the French can all migrate to Algeria and leave a burnt-out husk of Paris to the ROPers.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at September 27, 2016 06:18 PM (Eynls)

288 Well, the best answer is that yes CO2 Han a measurable impact on temperature, but because it is very much a trace gas, the direct impact is minimal. Also because the impact is logarithmic each successive doubling of CO2 has a smaller impact than the previous impact. The direct impact does not and cannot produce runaway or even a significant direct impact oon global temperatures. Certainly nothing catastrophic. All catastrophic impacts on temperature are based on models that assume a positive feedback loop results and the feedback creates the catastrophic warming. But even the most complex, sophisticated models have been able to accurately predict future temperature and none can even minimally explain the flat temperatures for the past 18 years despite a massive increase in atmospheric CO2 over those same 18 years. Until the models can accurately account for the pause they are useless. There

Posted by: JBS at September 27, 2016 06:30 PM (A+NX0)

289 Yup, the positive feedback is a theorized interaction between H2O and CO2 forcings. Unproven, unphysical garbage. Good for grants, though.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at September 27, 2016 06:33 PM (Eynls)

290 I did some quick math aways back to show that if you turned all the CO2 into Dry Ice, it'd only cover the oceans with a crust of an inch or two.

If you scooped it all up and made an island with a little sand I'd expect it'd be no bigger than the Big Island of Hawaii. In the scheme of things this is nothing, certainly not enough to drive meaningful AGW, let alone CAGW.

If we had much less CO2, Earth would be one big fucking desert.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 27, 2016 06:49 PM (r1fLd)

291 A cold, dry and more violent weather wise desert.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at September 27, 2016 06:54 PM (Eynls)

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