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The Morning Report 9/27/16 [J.J. Sefton]
Tuesday's child is full of disappointment. Hey, it's not like we didn't know Le Grande Orange was not a master debater. Anyway, take heart and have a better one!
- Salena Zito: Trump Seals the Deal with Ex-Dems and Indies
- Lester Puts the "F" in "MFM"
- Old Coot Finds an Acorn
- Snap Polls All Show Trump Won Last Night . . . Except CNN
- Clinton Flack: Immunity for Oma's Staffers "Fairly Routine and Appropriate"
- UPI/CVoter Polls Show Trump Ahead in Electoral College
- Everything You Always Wanted in a Nuke. And Less!
- Obama's Climate Change Insanity Heads to DC Circus for Probable Rubber Stamp Go-Ahead
- One Third of Calls to VA Suicide Helpline Go Unanswered
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:01 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2016 07:04 AM (du8ty)
If you're depressed about Trump, go over to Gateway Pundit and Breitbart. Here, you will get the unvarnished truth.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:04 AM (9P3OG)
Madness!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (J+mig)
The takeaway seems to be that Trump, despite his missed opportunities, appeared to be reasonable and electable/supportable. And the mission for the other side was to make him look like the opposite.
He didn't damage himself and she did not help herself. So, if you want to call that a "win" okay. Meanwhile, Empress Seizure did not win anyone over to her side, so at least that's something.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:07 AM (9P3OG)
Did you actually watch the debate?
You are a braver man than I!
I watched "Stranger Things" on NetFlix.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 07:07 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (WlGX+)
Madness!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (J+mig)
"Blazing Sun?" Pfft! Been there, done that."
- - Zombie Curtis LeMay, Tokyo '45
- - Zombie Arthur Harris. Hamburg '43
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (9P3OG)
Did you actually watch the debate?
You are a braver man than I!
I watched "Stranger Things" on NetFlix.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 07:07 AM (Zu3d9)
I only read the comments!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (9P3OG)
All that online porn isn't going to watch itself, you know.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (X6fMO)
They went into the debates convinced that he would foam at the mouth, and be "That" Trump.
We were both disappointed.
But, I'm not sure that it was a great plus for her.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:10 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2016 07:11 AM (du8ty)
know Le Grande Orange was not a master debater. Anyway, take heart and
have a better one!
Under the so-called debates we have now it doesn't pay to be a "master debater". You are better off being a Gingrich and blasting the shit out of you opponent and the lying filth they use for a moderator.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:11 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 07:12 AM (no0Da)
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 07:12 AM (/O5Ax)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:12 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: goon at September 27, 2016 07:13 AM (k6BdX)
His comments about his interactions with true Christians seemed to be very heartfelt on his part.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:14 AM (J+eG2)
Trump missed some opportunities but he came out fairly unscathed, which was the plan all along.
Sounds like he "won" by most snap polls. We'll see in the polling numbers later this week.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:15 AM (qCMvj)
Under the so-called debates we have now it doesn't pay to be a "master debater". You are better off being a Gingrich and blasting the shit out of you opponent and the lying filth they use for a moderator.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:11 AM (mpXpK)
Many here seem to think that that Donald did not show up last night. But, I have a link above virtually all polls indicate Trump beat her handily. With the exception of CNN.
And the article is from the Daily Mail, and overseas news about the US is generally more reliable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:16 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2016 07:16 AM (du8ty)
They are asking Trump about the sniffles, and he said no, no allergies, no cold, not sniffles.
He has no idea how he sounded.
(he's phoned in on fox this am )
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:16 AM (qCMvj)
That is grueling for someone of Ms Clinton's physical condition.
I wonder how long Hillary will be in the shop after this event.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:17 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 07:17 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: goon at September 27, 2016 07:17 AM (k6BdX)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 07:17 AM (qf5a6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:16 AM (9P3OG)
I saw two polls last night about who "won". One had 80% Trump win and the other had 74% Trump win. Of course that was Drudge and BB. I suppose if you had a strong stomach you could go to Koz and see a poll that said 90% said Scankles won.
No votes changed here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:18 AM (mpXpK)
So...Sweep the knee might be an over reach?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:19 AM (J+eG2)
Expecting a knockout blow in a debate is generally unrealistic.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 07:17 AM (qf5a6)
That doesn't say much about the Republican field then. Trump laid waste to all of them during the primary debates. He didn't show up last night.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 2016 07:20 AM (ebcV9)
i saw about 1/2 the show, so my impression could be flawed...
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 07:20 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2016 07:21 AM (Z56vq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (9P3OG)
It was Troll City here last night.
Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 27, 2016 07:21 AM (XIXhw)
http://bit.ly/2cS81CA
Posted by: Random Lurker at September 27, 2016 07:22 AM (+tRIN)
I thought Trump was a spaz at all the debates. He won the nomination because he was on the right side of the issues the primary voters cared about.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2016 07:23 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: goon at September 27, 2016 07:23 AM (k6BdX)
Posted by: spypeach at September 27, 2016 07:24 AM (nyYhO)
from breitbart/Pat Caddell
"Like most debates, this debate did not shift the race. What it did do was show Trump as plausible, as a strong leader and more importantly that he cares about people," he said. "Trump really helped himself out tonight."
their poll showed Clinton winning, but shifted some undecideds and Indy's to Trump, which is what was needed
interesting
Two percent of voters, previously undecided, switched to Trump after the debate. No undecideds went to Clinton. One percent switched from Trump to Clinton, and one percent switched from Clinton to Trump.
"Trump won on the most critical factor, on whether Clinton or Trump was more 'plausible' as president, 46 percent to her 42 percent," he said.
"That for him is really what this debate was really about," he said.
This is what I felt. Like I said last night, he'll learn. And he'll adapt at the next.
Lester? a pos with the old sh*t, but some of it probably came across as petty from the MSM
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:24 AM (qCMvj)
See my link about "Old Coot." Shieffer said Trump didn't lose any ground and Clinton did not gain any. So status quo, which is good because Trump is peaking perfectly. Did he miss opportunities to have potentially sealed the deal? Absolutely. Maybe next time.
I understand being cautious. But the only thing a prevent defense prevents is winning. A little more boldness, backed up heavily with preparedness, would have gone a long way.
Next time.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:24 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: deplorable small town girl at September 27, 2016 07:24 AM (PoGrh)
Yeah, that was an amazing moment.
I think a LOT of people are damn sick of that charge.
.
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 07:25 AM (no0Da)
It'll be interesting to see what the polling does. I'm expecting a little bump for her but not a big one. Then again, I thought Romney couldn't possibly lose to the worst President in history, so I'm sometimes wrong.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 07:25 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (9P3OG)
It was Troll City here last night.
Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 27, 2016 07:21 AM (XIXhw)
I saw that and packed it in early.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:25 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:25 AM (9P3OG)
Trump came across well. He did not get nasty and personal with her. He could have gotten harsher. The crowd was definitely pro-Hillary (so what?).
Trump's whole dialogue is counter to the typical, Democrat talking points. Of course, he did not sound as smooth as Hillary. Every answer she gave was basically the same as Al Gore gave in 2000, and John Kerry in 2004. At least she did not claim that the oceans would stop rising and the planet would heal if she was elected. The same answers that sound acceptable, but never work.
And if Trump ever gets serious about doing TV commercials. there are lots of things from Hillary's own remarks that can be used against her quite well. She has painted herself into the usual corner that Democrats do. Trump has to publically use her words against her, either in speeches or on TV.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at September 27, 2016 07:26 AM (S6Pax)
Hilldabeast reply could be boiled down to you're so critical and these are great people. The BLM issue is by her minefield. He needs to keep hitting her hard on this.
Why can't republicans insist on neutral, fair debate moderators? Thus drives me nutz!
Posted by: Cooldawg at September 27, 2016 07:26 AM (v/mjE)
I met many new friends here last night.
And most of them seemed to be concerned.
And I noted their concern.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:26 AM (J+eG2)
This is why I don't think DT should be criticized for not nailing her on every little thing she said that could have been easily refuted. Give her enough rope and wood and she'll build her own gallows.
Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 27, 2016 07:28 AM (XIXhw)
Hillary really pushed the "Trump is a liar" versus the truth of her being pathological. So Alinsky. She played that all night, that and race and guns.
But the liar thing came up over and over, because Trump was winning against her with that. She is a liar, so she tries to muddy like the Clintons do. I hate them.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:28 AM (qCMvj)
Trump could have knocked her out cold with a comeback to her blood-libel of calling everyone racist.
You can do that most effectively without alienating the black vote you have courted with equal effectiveness.
Oh well, what might have been.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:29 AM (9P3OG)
And wouldn't you know it, once Hillary had it in her hands, and looked down adn realized what it was, she let out a terrible shriek (which actually sounds like her normal speaking voice) and was gone and America was great again.
So yeah Trump did 'meh,' but the subliminal messaging was unbelievable.
Posted by: I love Science in the ass at September 27, 2016 07:29 AM (svFmG)
Explaining her fight against White Privilege, and her alignment with the #BLM movement.
Multiple times per day.
And then covered in the nightly news.
With audio.
So people can listen to her soothing voice.
While eating their supper.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:30 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: goon at September 27, 2016 07:31 AM (k6BdX)
People seem more aware of "fairness" than the MFM gives them credit for, imo, and if they are online they are more informed than average. So they perhaps recognized Holt not asking hard questions of Hillary, and playing along with her narrative on Trump.
The Trump Train momentum is real, and Hillary was her normal smug elitist, "why do I even have to be here" self. In a change election, and trust in media at a 32% all time low, advantage still goes to Trump.
The "hard questions" should now be off the table, like going back 40 years for a lawsuit. Trump was up on FOX at 7AM after being up last night till 2AM ... Hillary went home early in the Scooby van, and will probably keep avoiding press conferences till next year. Sleep well Hillary.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 07:31 AM (n6rAX)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (J+mig)
Or the order to "fire for effect" to a 155mm Howitzer battalion.
Is that a war crime?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 07:32 AM (Zu3d9)
Or else he was expecting to show looking like death warmed over. Instead, she got plenty of rest and plenty of makeup troweled on her mug and she didn't show up wearing an oven mitt.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at September 27, 2016 07:32 AM (P8951)
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Putting a Democrat activist on the tube in such a prominent position, like Dickerson, shows CBS' cluelessness on their own bias. It's as if Fox were to put Laura Ingraham in as their Sunday host.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 07:33 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 07:33 AM (Om16U)
While eating their supper.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:30 AM (J+eG2)
I wonder how many actually watch the "evening news" anymore. Most in my family don't, they get the news on the car radio, or on the phone. In my day, we watch the network news after eating or during eating...
Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2016 07:33 AM (du8ty)
However, we all have a responsibility to be engaged with the people around us. I work in a place where I see many different people every day. It isn't that hard for me to ask how they are doing and smile at them. Sometimes I get more than I asked for, but that is ok. Sometimes the stories are pretty interesting.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at September 27, 2016 07:33 AM (gppsv)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j7q8a4y
Posted by: Molly k. at September 27, 2016 07:34 AM (JQU6e)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 07:34 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 07:35 AM (/m8T6)
X says 'it's a nice day.'
MSM says 'According to polls, 53% say its too hot. PROGNOSIS: LIE.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 07:35 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 07:35 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 07:35 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: The MSM at September 27, 2016 07:36 AM (J+eG2)
'Raise Hell' Over Lester Holt Lobbing 'Softballs' to Hillary 'All Night'
http://bit.ly/2dw8o6L
good clip
this is what Trump is up against, but he still survived
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:36 AM (qCMvj)
If you want "your" guy to score a knockout at the opening bell, and he doesn't do that, how to you gauge what DID happen?
Any fight is both offense and defense. This is Round One. Did your guy NOT score a knockdown? Did the other guy? If not, then the judges will score it either 10-9 for one or the other, or an even 10-10.
Let's see what happens in Round Two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 07:37 AM (Pz4pT)
Brent's right in the clip, why doens't the republican candidate choose the moderators? Why do they let themselves be walked all over? I don't get it either.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:37 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 07:37 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 2016 07:38 AM (ebcV9)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:38 AM (U0lQa)
At the end of the day, why are the Republicans choosing these people, it happens almost every day debate. They behave like Lester Holt behaved tonight and then they're shocked. They're absolutely shocked that a left-wing journalist behaved like a left-wing journalist. I mean, and by the way, look at Martha Raddatz coming up. The same things's going to happen again. It happens every time, it is frustrating to watch this thing happen.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:38 AM (qCMvj)
You go right ahead, darling. Just let us know when and where so we can all see the only reason you're famous
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:40 AM (auHtY)
Posted by: Jaimo at September 27, 2016 07:40 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 07:33 AM (Om16U)
It is the paper of record in Hymietown. It's brash, blue collar and the editorial pages are conservative. The fact that it even exists here and is doing well is a mystery. But I'm glad it does.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:41 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 07:31 AM (n6rAX)
It's going to be fascinating watching her movements. People may think it doesn't matter, but it does. She's not going to win the White House, if she works a few hours one day, then takes then next nine days off.
People want/need to see their President has energy for the damn job.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 07:41 AM (Pz4pT)
I'm generally with NRO that Trump is not a conservative and appalling; but they've become such a Johnny-One-Note about it that they've become Breitbart-in-Reverse. Like Breitbart is Trumpbart and NRO is Anti-Trumpbart and if we could just lock them together in the space between universes to fight for all eternity the internet would be a better place.
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 07:41 AM (O7MnT)
After Hillary was dead, the town experienced an economic miracle. new buses, new trains, commerce and smiling faces everywhere.
I posted to see if anyone else had a similar experience. Scott Adams predictions and analysis of Trumps persuasion makes me think it is possible.
Posted by: I love Science in the ass at September 27, 2016 07:41 AM (svFmG)
And even more importantly, the wandering Bernie-bots at Hofstra would have sympathy cried with Hillary over the mean old white man.
He gets a C- with an extra 10 points for coming out of the gate early on jobs and economy for the benefit of Joe Sixpack who went to sleep 15 minutes in.
Hillary's communist screeching was so bad my wife left the room last night after saying " she sounds like a WITCH" .
His numbers will continue to rise as Hillary cuts her own throat with no help at all.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:42 AM (zu88C)
On the upside, Trump can save some of the really bad stuff on Clinton to the last debate. It will be fresh and there won't be another chance for Hillary to lie in response and covered by the media with no further debates.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:42 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:38 AM (U0lQa)
I don't get the pearl-clutching over that either. It's nothing new to warfare.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:42 AM (0mRoj)
I heard another interesting point on the local radio on the way to work this morning. The caller said Hillary used up all her best attack lines in this debate and doesn't have anything left. Apparently James Carville essentially had the same take as this caller.
So all in all I do feel a little better this morning about it.
Posted by: Independent George (subscribes to the worlds theory) at September 27, 2016 07:42 AM (BDZWU)
Now having said that, it is absolutely clear that there was coordination between Lester Holt and the Clinton Campaign. Holt was completely aware of Clinton's every attack point and often provided third party support for them.
Trump's attacks, or in reality defense, was not supported by Holt in any way. This was especially clear during the Clinton birther attack when Trump rightly charged members of the 2008 Hillary campaign for starting it, even providing names. Yet Holt did not dig into it, nor provide support by agreeing with this freely available information.
Essentially this debate was a complete travesty, the more I reflect upon it, the more I think the "debates" should be done away.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (bWnU+)
I'm so glad that Lester Dolt brought up the most important topic of our time. Birtherism. Nah, he wasn't biased in any way
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (auHtY)
Posted by: Jaimo at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (9U1OG)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:40 AM (auHtY)
The older a celeb gets, the more mottled their skin becomes. And some of them slap ugly tattoos on their overhyped arses.
Someone like her, it's probably best she keeps her clothes on, and creates the ILLUSION she would look good nekkid.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:44 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:44 AM (9P3OG)
The NRO is not even in my radar anymore.
There was one piece of note that I've read from someone else's link, but it was from one of the level headed writers there.
I never go there anymore. Don't even think about them. And they'll never get me back.
They are like lunatics at this point. Who wants to read raging crybabies. It feels that way. I don't need it. It's not truthful.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:45 AM (qCMvj)
Oh bullshit. Every one of those questions should have been predicted and prepared for.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 2016 07:45 AM (ebcV9)
I don't get the pearl-clutching over that either. It's nothing new to warfare
++++
it goes to that aid convoy thing. it was taken out by thermobaric weapons.
but.... we had a predator on station at the time.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:46 AM (U0lQa)
"ooooooo
Ted Cruz would have so out debated her! Ted would have said this and TED would have said that. "
Reminded of the post-election Romney meltdown. " Mitt Romney was TOO GOOD for you people, you stay-at-home non-voters!!"
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:47 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:44 AM (9P3OG)
fingers crossed
it will only matter as it gets very close to the election because people forget
he needs to time it just right so that it is in their heads as they vote
that is, if he survives that long. I hope he has a backup. (I know I shouldn't be condoning hacking...) But, it sounds like he's also going crazy being holed up in an embassy all of this time.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:47 AM (qCMvj)
I'd still hit Helen Mirren.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:44 AM (9P3OG)
Heh, well yeah.
Doesn't mean I want to see her doing a Playboy photo spread these days though.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 07:47 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2016 07:48 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:48 AM (zu88C)
Reminded of the post-election Romney meltdown. " Mitt Romney was TOO GOOD for you people, you stay-at-home non-voters!!"
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:47 AM (zu88C)
yeah, they were bizarre. Not on planet Earth. But, then, they may have just been baiters.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:48 AM (qCMvj)
(On the other hand, it sounds like he needs to learn more about not lunging for the lure when she tries to get him worked up.)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 27, 2016 07:49 AM (RD7QR)
But only black lives matter. How does she square that?
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 27, 2016 07:49 AM (SXa8W)
Oh bullshit. Every one of those questions should have been predicted and prepared for.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 2016 07:45 AM (ebcV9)
Yes to both.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:49 AM (qCMvj)
I'd still hit Helen Mirren.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:44 AM (9P3OG)
Heh, well yeah.
Doesn't mean I want to see her doing a Playboy photo spread these days though.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2016 07:47 AM (Pz4pT)
Think naked mole rat with big titties.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:49 AM (0mRoj)
We all wanted to congratulate you on a grand performance in that pressure packed debate last night. Enclosed please find keys to your new locker. (This was previously Mr. Lauer's locker, please try to be gracious.)
We look forward to seeing you soon!
All the Best.
Posted by: The New York Athletic Club at September 27, 2016 07:49 AM (SeD0w)
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Clinton is so filthy , I really can't imagine what would stick to her that she wouldn't lie her way out of anyway.
I hope it's something about that money-laundering shell corporation, the Clinton Foundation.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:50 AM (zu88C)
Aren't all these debates the same? The next day, the Democrat is described as "masterful" (if wins) and "relatable" (if "loses") and the Republican is always disparaged. I do not see the point of them, and quite frankly anyone who is convinced to vote for one candidate or the other by a TV show is a scary person.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 27, 2016 07:51 AM (AroJD)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (auHtY)
and a 40 year old lawsuit
so much from the very past, the iraq war, the lawsuit...
pathetic - but predictable
on the other hand, it's all they've got, which is nothing, but they try to make it bigger then it is with lies and exaggeration.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:52 AM (qCMvj)
Wow, but could we use a few men like Adams in this day and age.
Posted by: DocJ at September 27, 2016 07:52 AM (5Nr9V)
I just want to take a moment, and thank you for that visual.
No...
Really.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (J+eG2)
The AT piece on the the EPA and TFG's plan to wreck our energy supplies had one little interesting factoid. Just 3% Americans think that the environment/climate change is our top problem. Hmmm, that's almost exactly the same %age as Jill Stein's support.
As to the debate, I watched every torturous minute of it and I want a medal or something. I saw Grinny Rictus And Her Dolt run The Borkin' In New Yorkin.
The old gal had more strength than I thought; she even managed to throw the kitchen sink at Trump. Next time I expect he will be more on offense.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (gyKtp)
Trump has a lot a bullets and plenty of targets for the next 2 debates.
Whether it was unintentional or by design, DJT rope-a-doped his way through while Hillary has no more punches to throw.
Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (onq2p)
Posted by: Jaimo at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (9U1OG)
I wish he hadn't. I got to see the part where Trump entirely missed hitting her on her bathroom server, classified emails, etc. And all the birther stuff, for heaven's sake, which went on forever.
I can say this about Hillary, however - she knows how to pick a makeup artist. She looked much better than I thought she would. I'd like to book a session with that wizard.
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (xpSCc)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:50 AM (zu88C)
I hope it is more about her contempt for ALL Americans. She does have that. Like she said last night that we are ALL racists.
But it didn't take down the scoamf. Trump has to fight 3x as hard this round
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (ZQfW9)
I'd already taken vacation days starting tomorrow. so work is pissed but what can you do.
I'm pissed off since I feel so guilty. only consolation is I would take out half the office if i showed up.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (U0lQa)
It is surprising that given the fact that Trump jettisoned the assholes he had in favor of Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway, and picked up momentum and seemingly the lead in doing so, that he would have been more prepared.
Hell, maybe he didn't "wing it" and she just rattled him. Anyway, it is what it is. He didn't damage his lead and she didn't help herself. I guess that's the best we can hope for.
Then again, Mitt destroyed SCOAMF in debate 1 but fell flat in the final 2 - with more than a bit of help from that fat fuck Crowley. 2 more to go, so Trump may yet surprise.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (9P3OG)
Holt irregularly asked follow-up questions and declined to intervene as Trump interrupted Clinton and made a series of questionable assertions.
Well done Washington Post. You've won the Walter Duranty award of the week.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (auHtY)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 07:55 AM (MIKMs)
I guess Rudy said Trump shouldn't go to the last two debates. Podesta saying that he did so bad he might take him up on that. Another pos talking.
Maybe he should skip them. Don't know. It's always a set up. But a smart man could get around that.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:55 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:55 AM (U0lQa)
I just want to take a moment, and thank you for that visual.
No...
Really.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:53 AM (J+eG2)
What can I say? I'm a giver.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:55 AM (0mRoj)
I'm so glad that Lester Dolt brought up the most important topic of our time. Birtherism. Nah, he wasn't biased in any way
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:43 AM (auHtY)
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Non college educated white guys ( who were even bothering to watch) were asking themselves - " why isn't this Lester-idiot asking any questions about her past?"
The bias was in screaming technicolor for all to see.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 07:56 AM (zu88C)
*searches music library for "Muskrat Love"*
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:56 AM (9P3OG)
Afterwards, he showed me the Snapchat stories he was sending out during the debate, where he was filming Trump saying something and my son was captioning it "I could be watching MNF."
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 07:56 AM (xpSCc)
Romney's defeat was what made me lose all faith in America. Here we had a country with a failing economy and dysfunctional Government, and a guy running for president whose entire career was based on turning around failing enterprises.
And he lost because his opponent started a rumor that was going to outlaw tampons.
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 07:56 AM (O7MnT)
- - Zombie Curtis LeMay, Tokyo '45
- - Zombie Arthur Harris. Hamburg '43
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:09 AM (9P3OG)
Yep, I was thinking the same thing. It's just shocking the Russians are fighting to win. Iraq would have been a lot calmer a lot faster had we leveled a few neighborhoods.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 07:57 AM (Ee2nz)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:57 AM (J+eG2)
Hell, maybe he didn't "wing it" and she just rattled him. Anyway, it is what it is. He didn't damage his lead and she didn't help herself. I guess that's the best we can hope for.
Then again, Mitt destroyed SCOAMF in debate 1 but fell flat in the final 2 - with more than a bit of help from that fat fuck Crowley. 2 more to go, so Trump may yet surprise.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:54 AM (9P3OG)
It really ebbed and flowed. Trump did listen to his coaches for a lot of it. You could see him keeping his composure. He directly spoke to Lester, which should have happened more. He focused on policy a lot.
He did okay. But, debate prep would have worked.
Hillary did about the same. She was frazzled at times, and lost her talking points notes at times. She sounded dumb at times.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 07:57 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 07:57 AM (WTSFk)
Reading comments about Lester's performance idiots actually wrote that he couldn't be anti-Trump because he's a registered Republican. Either they're that stupid, willfully ignorant or both. This is our bigger problem a populous with its head up its ass
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:58 AM (auHtY)
That worthless old commie Mort Sahl had a bit back in the day slamming Nixon and Agnew, but I'll paraphrase it to today:
In 200 years, we have gone from Washington and Adams to Obama and Biden.
One has to wonder just how much of that kind of progress a country can stand.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 07:58 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 07:58 AM (U0lQa)
Mitt Romney is about the most decent guy you can imagine. That said, his politics and governmental philosophy are completely wrong.
And he was totally smeared and dumped on.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:59 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 07:55 AM (MIKMs)
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I agree. That red next to her face made her look almost life-like.
Trump picked a bad day to abandon his red power tie.
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 07:59 AM (xpSCc)
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 07:59 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:59 AM (J+eG2)
Because she is not black.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 08:00 AM (mpXpK)
I will, however, be over in my bunk with Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch and Morgan Fairchild. I'm sure you won't mind.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 08:00 AM (X6fMO)
I guess Rudy said Trump shouldn't go to the last two debates
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Another lawyer.
Hey guys, guess what? TRUMP IS NOT A LAWYER.
Wanna talk ROI, TCO, EBITDA? Or maybe closing the deal?
He's your man.
Want to win an argument by twisting words back on themselves?
Look elsewhere.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:00 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:58 AM (auHtY)
More importantly, he's an employee of NBC and part of the propaganda complex.
QED.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:01 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 07:57 AM (WTSFk)
Scankles.
Because I don't think Teh Donald can overcome 50-plus years of MFM / Democrat brainwashing, nor will he be able to combat the vote fraud that will sweep the country.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 08:01 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 08:01 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 08:02 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Motorhead at September 27, 2016 08:02 AM (EbqC+)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 201
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Trump answered every question put to him, sometimes in good detail.
Holt behavior was as if he had a list of Clinton bullet points to provide secondary backup. It appears especially true of the Clinton attacks. Again I'll point out that Trump provided specific names during the birther response, well known information, but did Holt turn to Clinton and fact check her and say "your campaign did start it in 2008".
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:02 AM (bWnU+)
And he lost because his opponent started a rumor that was going to outlaw tampons.
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 07:56 AM (O7MnT)
Romney lost because:
1. He let the other side define him.
2. He didn't show any fight and let Obama beat up on him.
3. Showed the typical level of concern for working Americans as the rest of the uniparty. (NONE)
4. Was so good at running things that his GOTV effort crashed on election day.
5. Being a turn around guy plays into the optics of only laying people off. Had he actually had a couple of companies that he started from the ground floor, he could have played up that side.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 08:02 AM (Ee2nz)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 08:02 AM (mpXpK)
Romney's defeat was what made me lose all faith in America.
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What ever the results of this election, I simply consider it a patch on one of the holes in the US life boat. Gonna keep paddling until plan B becomes inevitable.
I repeat:
In 2008 America committed suicide. 2012 was just the body flopping in the tub.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:03 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 08:03 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 08:04 AM (/m8T6)
From ace last night -
Trump up a fair amount. However, some people view these debates and their candidates like a new car -- ever fearful of the smallest ding.
Look, have you ever had a car that didn't get a ding?
Why hasn't an auto company named their car Ding?
Dodge Ding. Chevy Ding. Ford Ding.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 27, 2016 08:05 AM (BK3ZS)
And he's (apparently), still winning.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 27, 2016 08:05 AM (SeD0w)
Plus, answering the questions is only part of who wins the debate. Remember, Bush got killed in his Clinton debate because he looked at his watch like he was waiting for the thing to end.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 08:05 AM (Ee2nz)
I could forgive 2008. Landslide McCain was a terrible candidate, and there was the whole "Historic First" thing. But by 2012, America should have known better.
It's pathetic that someone as nakedly corrupt and dishonest as Hillary Clinton even has a shot.
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:06 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:06 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:06 AM (J+eG2)
2. He didn't show any fight and let Obama beat up on him.
3. Showed the typical level of concern for working Americans as the rest of the uniparty. (NONE)
4. Was so good at running things that his GOTV effort crashed on election day.
5. Being a turn around guy plays into the optics of only laying
people off. Had he actually had a couple of companies that he started
from the ground floor, he could have played up that side.
Black turnout and non-working turds wanted free shit in key States.
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FTFY
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 08:06 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:07 AM (bWnU+)
Fixed it for myself
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:07 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:07 AM (U0lQa)
Trump is not a good debater.
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Agreed. I think that actually make him believable and works to his advantage when he points out that HRC uses a lot of words but takes no action.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:08 AM (zu88C)
It's pathetic that someone as nakedly corrupt, dishonest and crazy-eyed as Hillary Clinton even has a shot.
Fixed it for myself
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:07 AM (O7MnT)
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From the clips I have seen this am, HRC really overdid the smug mean-girls insider stuff.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 08:09 AM (MIKMs)
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I agree. I have to admit, I was really convinced in 2012 that once people had seen Obama's true stripes, and what with Obamacare and all, that people wouldn't make the same mistake twice. Sigh.
After that I had to back away from reading stuff online for a long, long time. I was so distressed that my country had voted for 4 more years of this stuff.
You'd think at "29" I would have known better than to hope for something different, but I was a cock-eyed optimist.
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 08:10 AM (xpSCc)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 08:11 AM (g6yUI)
I didn't expect a knockout blow, but dang, I did expect him to drive a truck through the cyber security opening she left. It was also a little disturbing to see him pull the Mitt Romney "I agree with you" on gun control. Still, I'm voting for him because he ain't Hillary.
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 08:11 AM (/O5Ax)
On a subject that makes me happy...
The red 2015 Cadillac SRX I listed on Autotrader is being picked up today by a nice couple that lives about 2 hours away. Luckily, no dings.
Posted by: jwest at September 27, 2016 08:11 AM (Zs4uk)
another. Neither gave me comfort that they could provide protection or
security. Neither one was World-Class. Neither
impressed me or made me want to open my wallet or mind up.
But enough about the Falcons - Saints game. Someone just told me there was a debate last night I wonder it went?
Posted by: nuclearjim at September 27, 2016 08:11 AM (q1/Je)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:12 AM (J+eG2)
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FTFY
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 08:06 AM (mpXpK)
And Romney offered nothing other than looking and sounding like the guy that is going to ship jobs overseas and import workers. You can whine about those voters all you want. But you have to offer a different vision beyond tax cuts, free trade, and open borders. Romney embodied that vision and he lost.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 27, 2016 08:12 AM (Ee2nz)
Hillary calling all Americans racist will hit hard,
It's worse than the deplorables remark.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:12 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 27, 2016 08:13 AM (+QFqi)
From the clips I have seen this am, HRC really overdid the smug mean-girls insider stuff
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in an election where insiders are disdained, elites are hated, and GOPe smug solidified trumps support
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:13 AM (U0lQa)
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 08:13 AM (/O5Ax)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 08:13 AM (KUaJL)
quick question why are there Mosques in Germany when you can't have a Church in Durka Durka?
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:14 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 07:07 AM (9P3OG)
Trump exercised a measure of self-control throughout. I was impressed in that regard although (for once) I was hoping he'd be more aggressive, particularly when Hillary Clinton started talking about temperament.Hillary's rages are legendary, as well as is her unbridled contempt for those she considers beneath her station.
A win? No.Hillary hit him too many times to call it a win for Trump. I'd call it a Clinton win on points by close decision.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 08:14 AM (OGbEB)
Posted by: NativeNH at September 27, 2016 08:14 AM (yayUR)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:12 AM (bWnU+)
It would make for a great ad, but it has to be done in a way that doesn't antagonize black folk, but in a way that further reveals the lie that Democrats give two shits about them.
Do that and win a cookie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:15 AM (9P3OG)
If/when the NTs manage to sink Orange Toupee Weasel they think they will be considered the white knight coming in on horse to save the day in 2020.
Not going to happen, I will be on the other other side of aisle.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:15 AM (SzZnW)
I don't get the "why didn't Trump choke a bitch?" comments.
"Your whole staff took the fifth amendment"
" You told our enemies everything that we are doing"
" You and Barack created ISIS"
" You have been fighting ISIS your whole life"
For a non politician, non lawyer, he landed some pretty good shots.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:15 AM (zu88C)
My biggest complaint about Trump's debate performance was his failure to skewer her on her own poor cybersecurity and her corrupt charity's pay to play.
During the middle portion Holt was allowing her way more uninterrupted time and Trump didn't jump in to challenge her more egregious lies.
Trump did very well to cite specific Rust Belt states -- Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania -- as having lost under NAFTA and to tag TPP as Hillary's version of NAFTA, only worse.
Fix his deficits in missed opportunities for the next two encounters and go for the jugular.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 27, 2016 08:16 AM (BK3ZS)
>What would you do about cyber security?
Trump- Well, I wouldn't make the same self-admitted mistakes my opponent has made. Obviously she is not serious about cyber security. I would be sure my AG would prosecute people that broke the law and not give them immunity.
On and on.
Posted by: Hellary at September 27, 2016 08:16 AM (zjvxX)
Whenever you see someone wearing trump supporting clothing, or button in public, take a moment to either give a visual clue that you agree with them, or even go up and shake their hand.
I guess the Harley rider wearing the "Hillary for Prison" tee shirt was somewhat surprised to see the guy in the Volvo wagon pull up along side him, and give him the thumbs up.
Break the stereotypes.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:16 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 08:14 AM (OGbEB)
Does that move the needle significantly in her favor? I say, assuming I agree with you, no. But YMMV.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (9P3OG)
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A majority of blacks believe this is true.
How do you handle that?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (zjvxX)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 27, 2016 08:18 AM (KUaJL)
Agree with them and suggest they hold up a mirror.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:19 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: joe, living dangerousl"
Grew up in Cleveland as a Browns fan. After years of defeat I ended up giving up all professional sports except as occasion light entertainment with no commitment whatsoever. I'm getting to that point with politics.
Posted by: Ripley at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (1BQGO)
Gary recently hired Juan Hernandez, so for open border Mexican Americans that think in terms of Mexico First ... Johnson is your man, don't trust Crooked Hillary.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (n6rAX)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (U0lQa)
Lester Holt made Candy "Bitch" Crowley seem restrained.
NBC needs destroyed.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (09Ay7)
How do you handle that?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (zu88C)
You realizes that the majority of blacks are racist, especially the NAACP and the CBC, but it doesn't matter. Because they are racist and will not turnout for whites Scankles will have a tough time. If you look hard at the internals you will see that Scankles is really not winning those polls that she is up 10 points in. They are rigged.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (mpXpK)
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A majority of blacks believe this is true.
How do you handle that?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (zu88C)
An ad that somehow crystalizes the essence of this as a 50+ year Democrat big lie.
It can be done. It just has to be a clever juxtaposition of images, soundbites and facts done in a biting, satirical way that causes the scales to fall from the eyes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (9P3OG)
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Yeah, that was what people were saying about Trump, that they didn't no what he was all about.
Kellyann Conway said in multiple interviews that she wanted to let the "businessman leader that she knew" show through.
I think that was the reason that he was so restrained.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (zu88C)
Recognize that a two percent shift in non-black voting patterns has more of an impact then a 10 percent shift in black voting patterns.
And don't drink the bath water that the MSM is peddling.
This whole black vs white thing that Hillary has going on, in my opinion is not a racial thing, but a culture thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (g6yUI)
How do you handle that?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:17 AM (zu88C)
To paraphrase President Obama, 'You go all Bulworth on their ass' and tell the African-American community exactly what's going on: Democratic Party policies are deliberately designed to keep black people poor, angryand unemployed so that they can be more easily manipulated to vote for the Democratic Party. It's a very easy case to make.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (OGbEB)
You have experience, but it's BAD experience
Everybody know what that means.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:21 AM (bWnU+)
It's a matter of survival, the Grin Breck types in aiding a second Alinsky trained communist gain power because they are on the SS Butt Hurt will have made it so "not being a democrat" will mean you can't get ahead.
I can pretend to be a savage, economic retard a lot easier than the Grin Brecks can pretend to be a civilized person who grasp politics is the art of the possible.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:22 AM (SzZnW)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zogqlfj
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 08:22 AM (xpSCc)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at September 27, 2016 08:22 AM (a7IXj)
I really like Larry, he does into many topics that no one else ever addresses publicly on the air.
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 08:23 AM (wCEn4)
There are a lot of commenters who were expecting a "Daniel in the Lion's Den" miracle...
well I'm pretty sure if God tosses a miracle around it is not going to be in US politics....
seems to me there's an Entire Middle East of persecuted Xians going on.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:23 AM (SzZnW)
But I sincerely hope he improves before the next debate. He wasted a lot of time and missed some opportunities to not only hammer 'Illary, but put some actual rhetoric behind his campaign.
The flub that pissed me off the most was the question on Cybersecurity. 'Illary went first and said she had 2 points to address the challenges. All Donald had to do going second was say: I agree with the 2 points by Madame secretary and I'll add a third -and hammer her and the rest of the administration on the demonstrated inability to follow the rules laid out by the federal government re: data security. No personal e-mail accounts to do work, no outside consultants raiding the OPM database.
He had a real chance to hammer Hillary and state that he was going to bring 'real change' to the way government was run -having it follow the standards and practices enforced in the private sector and then some...
instead we got 2 minutes of his endorsements by the military: don't care and 1 minute about his 10 year sone: again don't care.
sorry, had to get that off my chest, was bothering me all night.
Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (gtd1H)
Well, if they answered them all, they couldn't very well demand an increase in funding, could they?
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (ANVXm)
.Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 07:12 AM (no0Da)
Predictable. Oh, and I didn't watch her for two seconds, but Megyn (stupid spelling) had Mark Cuban with her. She can take her dykiness and go float. Stupid bitch.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (J+eG2)
And your statement reveals where the real battle is - in the schools for the hearts and minds of the next generation of children.
Politics, and really society as a whole, is all downstream from that. Bill Ayers (pig piss be upon him) knew it and we are reaping what he and others have sown for the last 40-plus years.
I think while we have to stanch the bleeding at the surface, the deeper infection must be cured at all costs. Somehow, some way.
Must be done.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (9P3OG)
How do you handle that?
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top of my head, but maybe something like the elites make a lot of money and gain power through keeping us all hating each other.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:25 AM (U0lQa)
Also, I'm glad Trump didn't step into any feminist landmines that would have the feminazis in a tizzy today. In fact it's Hillary who got deductions for bringing up her husband's accomplishments.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (Om16U)
And he pointed out she was for it till she saw Trump against it, then completely flipped, and stated she would approve it quickly if she won, which she didn't resist, iirc.
He wins big on trade, he wins big on immigration. She calls all white people systemically racist, and acts of contrition are not enough, only open borders can save whitey. Which is especially crazy as that hurts blacks and inner cities. Hurts them by stealing the jobs, and in some areas like Compton, by gang warfare.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (n6rAX)
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 08:23 AM (wCEn4)
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I do too. He never loses his cool either, and is very funny. I don't know how the man does everything he does.
Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (xpSCc)
tell the African-American community exactly what's going on: Democratic
Party policies are deliberately designed to keep black people poor,
angryand unemployed so that they can be more easily manipulated to vote
for the Democratic Party. It's a very easy case to make.
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It's the truth and the right thing to do. However, in the world of politics is there enough immediate election-related ROI to focus on the Big Lie? Especially considering that so many blacks benefit from it's perpetuation?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (zu88C)
Well, if they answered them all, they couldn't very well demand an increase in funding, could they?
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (ANVXm)
When I was in my 20s, I worked on a suicide hotline every Sunday afternoon for a year. Took weeks of classes in "reflective listening" in preparation All the calls were masturbators, not a single legit call.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (09Ay7)
I know, right? It's almost as if some people want a politician-lawyer. I've had it with both.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (SXa8W)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (zp+j1)
--------------
A majority of blacks believe this is true.
How do you handle that?
Like this:
https://youtu.be/RovF1zsDoeM
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)
Lester Holt made Candy "Bitch" Crowley seem restrained.
NBC needs destroyed.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:20 AM (SzZnW)
Burn, scatter, salt. Repeat as needed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:27 AM (0mRoj)
or "Mourning" like Alonzo Mourning
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (gtd1H)
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Concern
[ ] not noted
[x] noted
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (Zu3d9)
Whenever you see someone wearing trump supporting clothing, or button in public, take a moment to either give a visual clue that you agree with them
Yep. Found myself doing this too.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at September 27, 2016 08:22 AM (a7IXj)
Trump's job was to show up, not say anything catastrophically stupid or incendiary,and look presidential. Hillary's job was not to keel over deadon stage or lapse into a state of Parkinson's-induced, wall-eyedcatatonia. In that sense, they both succeeded, but Hillary came across as more solid on policy positions and certainly as more aggressive.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (OGbEB)
(Because he already has the rightwing base and the Never-Trumpers are a lost cause).
While Hillary was still trying to appeal to her base.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:28 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at September 27, 2016 08:22 AM (a7IXj)
Hrothgar's Predictions:
I expect the debate commission to insist that Trump wear a ball-gag in the next two debates just to make it fair.
I also expect both Cooper and Raddatz will attempt to try and make Holt look like a bona fide Trump supporter!
I expect Hillary to skip the debate with Chris Wallace because all the important issues have been asked and answered!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 08:29 AM (wCEn4)
That was some serious coattail riding.
Posted by: no good deed at September 27, 2016 08:29 AM (/O5Ax)
He needs to up white turnout and peal off enough minorities to win. Hillary's comment will up white turnout for Trump.
Hillary is in a real tough spot because she is a cracker and won't be able to motivate the people she needs to win.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:30 AM (bWnU+)
Kind of helps when the media refuses to point out you were third mate on the SS Fail Boat.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 08:30 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: roy_batty at September 27, 2016 08:31 AM (JFGJa)
+++++
the little death is a kind of suicide.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:31 AM (U0lQa)
There are a lot of commenters who were expecting a "Daniel in the Lion's Den" miracle...
****
Well, that's dumb. The realm of fantasy is limited to progs and #nevertrumpers.
Let's work in reality where his greatest asset is that he is not the most evil corrupt greedy cxxx to walk the face of the earth in history and therefore, if he can show he's not going to suddenly disassemble the lectern and start beating the biased moderator to death with the splintered wood, he is highly preferable.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:31 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 08:31 AM (lAHpZ)
Rumors will surface that Holt actually secretly donated to conservative causes.
Including $1.00 to the Trump campaign.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:31 AM (J+eG2)
And most of them seemed to be concerned.
And I noted their concern.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:26 AM
VIA, may I express my concern that you're concerned about their concern?
Also, the possibility of your lawn getting trampled is concerning.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 08:33 AM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:33 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (zu88C)
Only a handful--Jackson, Sharpton types--actually benefit. The vast majority are ground under over generations. Look at Detroit, East St. Louis, Baltimore, Chicago. A slideshow of these places with a narrator saying, 'This is what the Democratic Party hasdone to you' would do the job.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 08:33 AM (OGbEB)
I'll wait and see which way the non-hyper-partisans start moving. That will be the way of the truth.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 27, 2016 08:33 AM (hLRSq)
I would have loved Trump to respond to Lester's race-baiting last night with -
"Well , Lester. White Americans elected a black president twice. By my calculations , we should be in a nearly racism-free society at this point. But we're not. Why is that? "
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:34 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:34 AM (Z58Xa)
****
It's hard to be kind to the mentally deficient and mentally ill.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:34 AM (09Ay7)
--
Which she did, I think, even to the undecided eye. Or at least I hope so. The smirk, the shimmy, and most of all the grating voice. *shudder*
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:34 AM (Om16U)
That hopefully gets through to him, is why he needs the prep, even if he knows the answer. Undecided voters have jelly for brains, and he can't meander like he does for his rallies. Even if he hits a good point, if he muddies it up with superfluous fluff, the jelly brains will miss the point, or Holt will interrupt.
And if he knows the segments to say pointedly, he can use the active part of the brain for more strategy. But still, people want change not a political robot ... but focus would still help.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 08:35 AM (n6rAX)
https://youtu.be/RovF1zsDoeM
Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)
===
Really hard to believe The View let this be performed on their show. It was a much different time back then.
Posted by: Independent George (subscribes to the worlds theory) at September 27, 2016 08:35 AM (BDZWU)
Oh...and The Yankees need to trade Betances and resign Chapman.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:35 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 08:35 AM (bWnU+)
*****
That's her lifetime schtik.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:36 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:36 AM (U0lQa)
Lazio's big mistake was being too aggressive toward Hillary, and that
when she can play the victim card, she comes across as sympathetic.
Better to let her be aggressive and come off as a bitch. Posted by: V the K at September 27, 2016 08:33 AM (O7MnT)
=====
Smug mean girl insider. Let her do it to herself.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 08:36 AM (MIKMs)
God's gift to Concerned notoriety
And I always fill my Concern posts
The Concern is never small
All the social papers say I've got the biggest Concerns of all
I've got big Concerns
I've got big Concerns
And they're such big Concerns
Dirty big Concerns
And he's got big Concerns,
And she's got big Concerns,
But we've got the biggest Concerns of them all!
Posted by: Bon is Concerned about YOU at September 27, 2016 08:37 AM (PEG9u)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 27, 2016 08:26 AM (SXa8W)
I know I really want another lawyer, skilled in twisting words into pretzels, capable of obscuring and ignoring facts, with a proven track record of defending a child rapist, and the ability to structure a money-laundering operation disguised as a charitable corporation so blatant that it would have landed me in jail a decade ago for even attempting to file the paperwork!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 08:38 AM (wCEn4)
Let's
work in reality where his greatest asset is that he is not the most
evil corrupt greedy cxxx to walk the face of the earth in history and
therefore, if he can show he's not going to suddenly disassemble the
lectern and start beating the biased moderator to death with the
splintered wood, he is highly preferable.
Is it OK if we fantasize briefly about biased moderator orifices being probed vigorously with splintered sections of the lectern?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 08:38 AM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:38 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: ??? at September 27, 2016 08:39 AM (K8FS4)
++++
its political. youll hear more about it in the next week or two because they're trying to accuse Russia of using them on the aid convoy
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:39 AM (U0lQa)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 08:39 AM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:39 AM (J+eG2)
Trump's tax returns are an issue only to Shrillary's base. I've never given a damn about candidates' tax returns, except for one item, their charitable deductions. And, back in the day, the Clintons took a charitable deduction for donating used (yes, used) underwear, which charities tell you you cannot do.
Grifters gotta grift...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 27, 2016 08:40 AM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:40 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:40 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (7HtZB)
Although Trump may have lost the 400 pound hacker vote last night.
------
Gary Johnson's base?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (zu88C)
74
Katy Perry Says She'll Vote Naked for Hillary
You go right ahead, darling. Just let us know when and where so we can all see the only reason you're famous
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2016 07:40 AM (auHtY)
Only? In fact, I believe that there are TWO reasons she's famous.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (LuZz8)
It says that we defeated Hillary last night.
But to send money to continue the fight.
Damn...I am somebody.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (J+eG2)
Don't go after Holt. his career is roadkill if he does what Trump wants him to do. Go after Hillary.
As my old coach used to tell us: Leave No Doubt.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:40 AM (Om16U)
Hilary wasn't voting for him anyway.
Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2016 08:41 AM (7HtZB)
Must be done.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:24 AM (9P3OG)
Disband the teacher's unions, along with all other public sector unions. The reasoning for doing so is solid: The truly interested party, the taxpayer, is not represented in negotiations. Unelected officials choosing to give other unelected government employees raises, without any input by legislature in the matter is taxation without representation.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 08:42 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:35 AM (Zu3d9)
Sigh, I'll worry about that after Election Day
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2016 08:43 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: x at September 27, 2016 08:44 AM (5zXx+)
*****
As long as your "friend" sets a timer. Life is not that perfect. Wallowing in that place where reality has taken a break would open your mind to whatever virus infected the #nevertrumpers. Pretty soon you'd start imagining a "pure" conservative candidate who would swoop in on the wings of an eagle and you could wear his merits to justified in the eyes of God, because undefined "principle."
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:45 AM (09Ay7)
I still keep reading that as "trade Beyonce".
Weird...right?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:45 AM (J+eG2)
public, take a moment to either give a visual clue that you agree with
them"
I do that with my Trump hat. No one has nodded to me yet, but I don't get out much.
Ivanka breezes through here tomorrow morning ... guess I'll go see her for $100, meet the local Republicans. It said I could give up to $250,000 if I want coffee and donuts or something. ha I don't get how the local Republicans can collect that much, for a PAC I guess, but not connected with the campaign somehow.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 08:45 AM (n6rAX)
Posted by: deplorable dagny
________
And the morbidly obese. Don't forget the morbidly obese.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 27, 2016 08:45 AM (VDlGs)
Ban human nature!!
Good luck with that.
I had to listen to something similar recently--very minor and brief point, but it still ticked me off.
I don't go around doing racist things or treating people differently because of race.
Don't call me racist.
From the *&# who called us irredeemable deplorables.
Cute.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 27, 2016 08:46 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 27, 2016 08:46 AM (gTQoY)
...those invited can listen to live music, breathe the same air as Leonardo DiCaprio & get to experience a "virtual reality prison.
Built by slaves?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 27, 2016 08:47 AM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:48 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at September 27, 2016 08:36 AM (U0lQa)
The bureaucratic mindset in a nutshell.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:49 AM (Zu3d9)
Phony racism is worse than real racism by orders of magnitude.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:49 AM (9P3OG)
It's just been verboten to say that for about 8 years.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:48 AM (zu88C)
Such as living in a country where a person is not free to express it. Idiots who out themselves can be written off as idiots and avoid it. If they can't express it, you might accidentally give them your business without ever knowing that you should be cutting them off.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 08:49 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 08:45 AM (J+eG2)
Can she throw a cutter? Because if she can she will probably do a better job than Betances has been doing recently./
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:50 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:51 AM (Om16U)
Such as living in a country where a person is not free to express it.
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Exactly. What Mama AJ said. Suppression of human nature never ends well.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:51 AM (zu88C)
Cute when a precocious child says it. Embarrassingly namby-pamby for an adult.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:51 AM (eeTCA)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 08:51 AM (fA75F)
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Yes.
This.
http://tinyurl.com/j7q8a4y
Yes folks, that's her O face when she's sitting on mine.
Posted by: Huma at September 27, 2016 08:52 AM (rlfds)
At this point I don't think 90% care. They've beat that mule
To death.
Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 08:52 AM (zjvxX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:49 AM (9P3OG)
The sad thing about "racism" in America is that it pales in comparison to that of most countries on earth.
In this country, an off-color joke is the subject of weeks of "national conversation," but in many countries it is institutional and violent.
But we are the racists.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:52 AM (Zu3d9)
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And that about wraps it up for the whole "Winning Debates" issue.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:53 AM (zu88C)
Bummed that the Mets lost last night, but did you see that the guy who hit a homer for the Marlins was weeping as he rounded the bases?
There still is an inkling of humanity and something to cheer about in pro sports.
http://nypost.com/2016/09/27/the-impossible-happened-so-dee-gordon-did-the-impossible/
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:53 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at September 27, 2016 08:53 AM (0LQ4f)
As for Betances, thanks for Andrew Miller.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (zu88C)
I just saw Donald pass up so many opportunities to attack legitimate past actions by the Hillbeast, some of which she set up, and I was, how do you say, "drinking". It was depressing to me.
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (hPhz1)
another call center if the one they called is busy. VA is kind of
jealous of its clients though, preferring not to route to backups.
.
.
.
.They are not allowed to transfer calls to anyone else, everything must be handled in house. That is the way Congress wrote the law.
That is slowly changing though. I now have a card that I can use if the VA can't get me an appointment within a 30 day window. The problem is, no one I can find will accept that card. The reimbursement the VA pays out when I have to use that card, is the same amount of $$$ as Medicaid but according to my Doctor they take six or more months to get reimbursed and the paperwork costs more than my Doctor visit.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (iONHu)
It also had the smallest number of participants - only 521.
The other online polls were all in the thousands, some in the hundreds of thousands.
I think we can safely conclude that CNN's ratings suck.
https://twitter.com/JasonSamfield/status/780723800086155264
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (Om16U)
My Concern cup always full
And everybody reads and reads again
If your name is on the guest list
No one can take you higher
Everybody says I've got great Concerns of fire!
Posted by: Bon is Concerned about YOU at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (PEG9u)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (zu88C)
And batting practice for the ban hammer.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Huma at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (rlfds)
The reasoning for doing so is solid: The truly interested party, the
taxpayer, is not represented in negotiations." Cato the rebel
yeah, and cancel all those ill gotten golden early retirement pensions. It is pretty direct quid pro quo, when Dems are bribed and they get teachers that can't be fired, retiring at 55 open ended promises on pensions. Of course they also escape any anti-trust laws somehow, so as with Chicago in 2012, can shut down the whole school system as leverage for even more raises, with no relation to accomplishment.
As one Obama Dem suggested, hang a few in public, so the others learn to behave.
But how they can actually transition out of the college to grave teacher golden pathways, is beyond me, short of prosecuting them all for bribery. In IL the courts overruled a little moderation to the pensions, which were illegally not funded fully for decades. (if they had, bad budgets would have been exposed early, Democrats would have lost power)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (n6rAX)
I think he'll win the election but it would be nice to see Trump do a Romney 2012 first debate for the next two and really seal the friggin' deal.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (9P3OG)
RNC Knocks Debate Moderator With Top 10 List Of Things Hillary Wasn't Asked
The list went as follows:
The 5 Aides Given Immunity By The FBI Or Her Reckless Secret Server
The Multiple False Statements About How Her "Extremely Careless" Actions Endangered Our National Security
Her "Basket Of Deplorables" Insult Toward Millions of Americans
Clinton Foundation Pay To Play Accusations
Her Failures And Lies On The Attacks In Benghazi
Her Support For Obamacare
Her Deep Support From And Ties To Wall Street
Veterans Affairs Scandal She Arrogantly Called "Not Widespread"
Her Comments About Wanting To Put The Coal Industry Out Of Work
Her Deception And Lack Of Transparency On Her Health
Leave them all to the last debate and hammer them in just before the election.
If even a few of these were brought up, she'd be done. So the MSM is afraid to do it. She would lose, today.
It's funny, Michael "Whale" Moore was tweeting that Trump won and Trump will be POTUS, again. He really believes Hillary has no chance. I hope he's right.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 08:55 AM (qCMvj)
Your concern is:
[ X ] Noted
[ ] Spindled, folded, and mutiliated
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (OF/aZ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A
Posted by: Independent George (subscribes to the worlds theory) at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (0LQ4f)
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 08:54 AM (/m8T6)
Unflappable closer, and a great teammate.
I hate you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (zu88C)
========================
Remarkable similarity between the words this new troll is using and those used by whats-his-name Geraghty from National Review.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (/m8T6)
******
Sorry, that's ridiculous. People have perfectly good reasons for "feeling" (which, btw, is not a measure of anything, who cares) things, having to do with life experiences.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:57 AM (09Ay7)
Yet the reverse was not true and Team Double-H got nowhere. I'll take it.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:58 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 08:58 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 08:57 AM (09Ay7)
Of course. it is a measure of how far we have fallen that "feelings" have become more important than actions.
Regardless of how I feel about anyone, I will try my hardest to treat them with respect, until they demonstrate, with their actions, that they do not deserve it.
[Except Joooos]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 08:59 AM (Zu3d9)
****
Some in the millions. Everyone but CNN and NRO comes down Trump and they have the smallest samples.
NRO's poll gives it to Hillary. I hate those assholes.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:00 AM (09Ay7)
Ah-hah! It's the Debate Moderators job, not Republicans in Washington.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 09:00 AM (ANVXm)
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 08:51 AM (eeTCA)
Yes, I'm feeling this way because as a hard working adult that has paid taxes for decades, I'm supposed to give honor to losers that do nothing for the community, the country, or the world, while Obama plays golf, Hillary runs a money-laundering operation that would make Tony Soprano blush, and Iran gets nukes thanks to progressive policies!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:00 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at September 27, 2016 08:56 AM (0LQ4f)
Place where I was watching had Bloomberg on as well as CBS. There was a right hand crawl that showed business news and the occasional "fact check" which was just repeating what Hilary said. Not much to see.
Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2016 09:01 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:02 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:02 AM (zu88C)
But, in the end, that was expected.
What the voters who 1st tuned in saw was, "You've been at this for 30 years and you're just now thinking about it?"
The other line, I think that will last, is when Trump agreed she had plenty of experience, bad experience.
Trump was not talking or debating for us, his audience is the blue-collar workers in PA, OH, IA, NC and MI--Hillary offered them nothing last night, Trump gave voice to their 20 year complaints.
Hillary knows that's the battlefield, that's why she kept talking about her dad.
That's my read between the lines, anyway.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2016 09:02 AM (e2Rx3)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:03 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 09:05 AM (/m8T6)
Trump was the one projecting that last night.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:06 AM (Om16U)
Sweden might consider this as a last resort, if it has truly lost control of its cities.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 27, 2016 09:06 AM (Pby3z)
Don't you just love it when a plan comes together!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:06 AM (wCEn4)
That's my read between the lines, anyway.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2016 09:02 AM (e2Rx3)
Funny thing, I had real trouble envisioning Hillary with actual parents!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:08 AM (wCEn4)
Ah-hah! It's the Debate Moderators job, not Republicans in Washington.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2016 09:00 AM (ANVXm)
Well, maybe the RNC will insist on switching to Lincoln-Douglas style with no moderators.
Yeah, sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 09:08 AM (9P3OG)
Nothing good has ever come out of that mouth. She's a psychotic busybody.
Posted by: Fritz at September 27, 2016 09:08 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:08 AM (wCEn4)
See: chest-burster.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 09:09 AM (9P3OG)
*****
I've been going way out of my way to give a few of the boys on my son's football team a ride to practice because, I guess, their own parents didn't plan that out and they were missing, pissing off the coach and harming the team. I keep telling them and their mothers that they need to BE READY at 5:35. Somehow, they can't manage it, come up with other boys to be picked up on the way, the parents don't bother to show up for the return trip as if I'm a school bus, they don't bother with "thank you", aren't even conversational, and are generally not a pleasant association. Granted, I'm used to a different milieu, but this has nothing to do with my "feelings," it has to do with their actions.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:09 AM (09Ay7)
Well.
WHO APPROVED THE MODERATORS??
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 09:09 AM (g6yUI)
Yet Yuval Levin declared he would never vote for Trump.
Posted by: Golfman at September 27, 2016 09:10 AM (zjvxX)
So this is what I think happened: Hillary got the questions in advance (like Obama obviously did in 2012 Candy Crawley debate), and doing her best Tracy Flick, prepared answers that had all sorts of specific statistics and facts (like the the details on Trump's business dealings, architect's name, etc.). Then, at the last minute she convinces them to do "fact-checking" and feeds all of her carefully-prepared stats and facts to the networks - thus, doing their work for them.
Trump, not being prepared in the same manner (nor even having the questions in advance), was not brimming with facts and stats. Let's face it, that's not his style to begin with.
Gawd, I hate Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2016 09:10 AM (NOIQH)
Yeah, sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 27, 2016 09:08 AM (9P3OG)
Yes, the RNC had their debate planning competence out on full display last night! At least she had to stand for 90 minutes.
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (wCEn4)
Good morning, all! I've read as much about the debates as I can stomach, and that's without even having watched them! Congrats and thanks to all who made it through. You're better folks than I.
The next one is Tuesday, October 4. We shall see what Donald has learned about The Art of the Debate by then, although some analysts have said debates don't much matter unless something outrageous happens. Moreover, I can't imagine the same numbers will be tuning in after last night's letdown.
Meanwhile, release the ads! Control the damage! Trump is holding rallies in Florida, Iowa, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, and Michigan this week.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:09 AM (09Ay7)
And they are counting on you being a good person and not taking it out on their kids by leaving if they aren't ready on time.
People suck.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:12 AM (fA75F)
Woke up and thought about all the traps he didn't fall for ... and those openings will still be there next time.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 09:13 AM (Fv8UY)
And that's the best thing Trump has going for him. She is simply the least liked Democrat nominee in modern history and regardless of how Trump does in debates or anything else nobody is going to start liking her.
Pretty low bar but I'll take it.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 27, 2016 09:13 AM (/tuJf)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/244904/
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)
This from a guy who sounds like he thinks that lizards are eating his eyeballs.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 27, 2016 09:13 AM (RD7QR)
I heard that, but figured she wasn't talking to us - she was talking to the blacks she desperately needs to vote for her. It was inelegant, though, and don't think she succeeded.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2016 09:13 AM (NOIQH)
I'm not sure that Hillary got the questions in advance last night. She probably memorized small speeches on every possible topic.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 09:14 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: Howard Dean at September 27, 2016 09:15 AM (ZMBdF)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 27, 2016 09:15 AM (sqpGi)
Leave 'em if they are not ready when they are supposed to be.
Don't fudge, and tell them a time which is earlier, knowing that they will be ten minutes late.
A real simple " I'll be there at xxxx. If you are ready, you get a ride.
If not...it's on you kid".
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 09:15 AM (J+eG2)
It's all water under the bridge, now, as they say.
I think it changed nothing, but helped the Indy's, etc to vote for Trump as Caddell was saying.
Patio heater doing it's job this morning. Time for a bit of sun, heat and a good book. Fiction.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2016 09:16 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:16 AM (fA75F)
She didn't say all whites, she said everyone.
Heh.
I'm sure no one will take advantage of that phrasing.
I'm picturing a Trump commercial with a mixed-race family...both parents being confused by being called racist...
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 27, 2016 09:17 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 09:14 AM (oGNNA)
May be just me, but I thought I saw her look down at the lectern numerous times like she had a canned cheat sheet down there, But that may have just been spaz eyeballs.
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:17 AM (wCEn4)
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Worse, I feel like a hypocrite, because, if they were white, I'd blast them. Long association with the City's sports programs has shown me that there is a difference in what "on time' means, so it "feels" to me like that would be "racist" if I did blast them for something cultural, but at the same time, they're wasting my time and making everyone late. Is not blasting them racist in a lefty way where I have to make concessions because I don't think they can manage "on time" or "advance planning"? It's a brave new world.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:18 AM (09Ay7)
Man, what a display of counterpunching last night!
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:18 AM (mFkVC)
And tell the parents that it's not your job to teach their child the life skills needed to be a success in life.
You're just the driver.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 09:18 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 09:18 AM (d9v6L)
Hillary: Trump is a liar and a racist. Did I mention he was a liar and a racist? Oh, and he's a racist.
Trump: (sniff) I made 650 million last year, and I have all the best investment properties.
Lester Holt: Mr. Trump. When did you stop beating your wife?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (pUDQf)
342 I went to bed mad as hell at all the openings Trump missed.
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I think that's what we well-informed NeverHillarys would have enjoyed, but the LIVs who tuned in to see if he's a Nazi? Maybe not.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (oGNNA)
Bring in the trolls...
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:16 AM (fA75F)
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Trump's primary occupation for the last 30 years or so has been "media personality."
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: IC at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (vBpiM)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Yes, this is absurd. I don't get it. Unless he cut a deal, pro-Dem moderator this time, and pro-Republican moderator next time.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 27, 2016 09:19 AM (g6yUI)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:20 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:20 AM (09Ay7)
Did you see how fat that chick that was on Big Brother got? She has some kind of skin care or it's a cream for oranges. Runs infomercials with Alison Sweeney. Man she puffed up!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 09:21 AM (d9v6L)
Sounds like you are referring to that racist term....C.P.T.
Which is weird, because I had never heard it used before, until the person of Pallor in my wife's office, who is the mother of a bi-racial child, and pregnant with another used the term to describe the culture of the father.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 09:21 AM (J+eG2)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/244904/
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)
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Maybe Trump is allergic to mohair and someone was wearing a mohair sweater in the vicinity.
Posted by: Independent George (subscribes to the worlds theory) at September 27, 2016 09:21 AM (BDZWU)
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That ahole is a doctor.
I wouldn't let him treat my neighbor's annoying dog.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (zu88C)
Grammy's has been "criminal mastermind."
You are being disingenuous by the way, Orange Toupee Weasel was NBC's pet for the last decade plus....
he is in the Juan McCain position of "but last year you c*c*suckers loved me!"
The real culprit as always is the RNC, they think their supine butt thrust towards media bias is a tool to get donations not the inert in the corner cuckoldery that is killing the party.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (09Ay7)
Any normal Republican would have crushed Hillary in last night's debate
I lost a Debate with Joe Biden.
Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (ZMBdF)
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (/CIN4)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:16 AM (fA75F)
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Rookie phenom? Struck out Cruz, Rubio and over a dozen others. Tough slider to hit.
Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (VndSC)
I'd probably go with treating it as an learning experience for the kids. You keep expecting them to be ready on time. If they're not little kids, they can probably get themselves ready and read a clock. Well, at least a digital clock.
Don't drive off without them, but keep emphasizing what you expect.
In theory, some of them might get better about it.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 27, 2016 09:23 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: person(a non grata)
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yeah.
Like Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:23 AM (zu88C)
"Leave 'em if they are not ready when they are supposed to be. "
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Reach out to the parents first and explain that if they are ready, of course they can have a ride; but if they are not, the driver has to move on so ALL the kids aren't late. I'll bet right now that the parents are not really aware, but a courtesy call works wonders and will help for teaching teamwork for all the kids. Plus, the courtesy call to other parents keeps future lines open. At least, that is how I used to do it.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 09:23 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (fA75F)
Somehow I lost to Candy Crowley....
//Mitt Rombley
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (SzZnW)
probably memorized small speeches on every possible topic.
After reading a sampling of the DNC email leaks I am certain Hillary got the questions. Most in the MSM are working hand in hand with the DNC.
DWS had the power to not only tell MSNBC what to broadcast, including operatives texting talking points to people like Mika while on air, but they had the power to demand they shut down a segment while it was airing. And then there's the DNC fingerprints all over certain questions, such as when George Stephanopolous asked the GOP candidates about birth control weeks before Obama rolled out the contraceptive mandate in 2012.
Even if you don't believe this was done formally, the networks are infested with enough fellow travelers for one of them to do it on the sly. Holt's intern makes an extra copy of the questions, passes it on to someone who gets it to Hillary's team.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (NOIQH)
I'm selling my car to a salvage yard, and they requested that I don't fill in the part on the title transfer that specifies what amount the seller is selling the car for.
Is this standard practice? It just seems suspicious to me.
Posted by: Heidi at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (tsLLe)
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They call it themselves, BST. They told ME about it years ago to explain why games, practices, etc., start 20 min late. "Where is everyone?" "Oh, honey, BST."
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (09Ay7)
he is in the Juan McCain position of "but last year you c*c*suckers loved me!"
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:22 AM (SzZnW)
Of course the media loved him when he was turning the primaries into a clown show and slandering serious Conservatives. The head of a network even came out and told primary voters that explicitly.
And everyone but Trump and his supporters knew what the media would do the instant he clinched the nomination. So it's not fair to treat it as if its a surprise.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (mFkVC)
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He repeated that line at least twice, maybe three times.
You know, just to be sure.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:25 AM (zu88C)
I might be wrong, but I'm convinced that Lester fed her the questions
beforehand. When he said "I didn't share these questions with anyone
including the candidates..." I heard "... but I did leave a draft set of
questions on a table at the DNC, and they were still there, with
mark-ups, when I went back to pick them up!"
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (wCEn4)
Every question was directed to allow her to attack Trump.
Hillary was pausing at awkward times to either listen to the feed from her earpiece or she was trying to recall the canned answer.
Even if Hillary didn't have the questions beforehand, they were still all softballs on a tee ball post for her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2016 09:26 AM (pUDQf)
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Sounds sketchy since the buyer has to pay sales tax on the sales price. For more than $250? Which is what you get as a deduction if you just donate it to Salvation Army.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:26 AM (09Ay7)
I'm selling my car to a salvage yard, and they requested that I don't fill in the part on the title transfer that specifies what amount the seller is selling the car for.
Is this standard practice? It just seems suspicious to me.
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Please fill out the following forum:
Dead body in the trunk:
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 27, 2016 09:26 AM (/CIN4)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:26 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (UBzPO)
Like Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:23 AM (zu88C)
This is REALLY disingenuous. Reagan had been a governor and had spoken and written seriously about conservatism for many, many years when he ran for president. Come on, you have to know that.
If Trump had been a governor and had spoken cogently about Conservative thinking for decades, I'd happily vote for him.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (mFkVC)
Put your dick back in your pants, troll.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (zu88C)
Hi Heidi! No clue about your question, but happy to have you posting.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 27, 2016 09:28 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:24 AM (09Ay7)
Oh, fuck that. Start on time or cancel it all. I'm sick and tired of coddling racist assholes who think their color gives them an automatic blank excuse form for life.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 09:28 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:28 AM (fA75F)
However, the lovely and perceptive Mrs naturalfake, who is not political at all, called it an outright victory for Trump, becuz-
1) Trump was more likable and approachable. She found Hillary! to be off-putting and a bit bitchy.
2) She thought Trump did better with his explanations and details(!). Hillary! sounded just like she was spewing campaign slogans(she was) and generalities.
3) Trump obviously wasn't selling himself to voters like me, who already liked what they saw enough previously to vote for him.
This was about reaching people who don't know him or only know his reputation by commercials.
She thought he did this well.
The beautiful and intelligent Mr naturalfake is a very good people-person,
still I thought she might've gotten this one wrong.
But, as the after-debate polls show, she was spot on.
Trump for the win.
Still, I hope something is done about the hugely biased moderators and Trump calmly but pointedly picks the low-hanging fruit about Hillary!'s corruption and horrible record.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 27, 2016 09:28 AM (9q7Dl)
Check your state and local laws but if it is being converted to a salvage title it is not an important part of the transaction.
If on the other hand you do not trust it is being converted to a salvage title then I'd be more concerned as "depending on your state" the state could in theory say you were a party to fraud.
Ohio was trying to bust my dad over his Honda Gold Wing, saying they did not believe he picked it up for 1750 as the bike is worth x yadda yadda yadda.
He had his lawyer send the Ohio BMV a letter reminding them most Gold Wings don't have 275,000 miles and a complete engine rebuild factored in.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:29 AM (SzZnW)
Revenge for what?
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 09:29 AM (ZMBdF)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:29 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: scrood at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (3b9U4)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (0mRoj)
He left a lot of potential hits on the floor, he also won according to everyone but CNN and NRO.
CNN is the Communist News Network, and NRO are their prophet.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (SzZnW)
I hear that if you keep the trolls talking until sunrise, they turn to stone.
*looks out shop window*
Shit. Tolkien was a fucking liar.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (Twghx)
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>>>Sounds sketchy since the buyer has to pay sales tax on the sales price. For more than $250? Which is what you get as a deduction if you just donate it to Salvation Army.
Posted by: deplorable dagny
I'm only getting $140 for it. (a Ford Escort GT)
Should I go ahead with it?
Posted by: Heidi at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (tsLLe)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (/tuJf)
Pretty good Michelle, pretty darn good.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (/m8T6)
Heh.
I'm sure no one will take advantage of that phrasing.
"
In her convention speech she said "systemic racism", but couched it with "Americans need to put themselves in the shoes of minorities to understand it". (paraphrased)
So obviously only white Americans don't understand this "systemic racism", and we are deplorable, irredeemable unless we confess white privilege and vote for open borders. Since only becoming a minority and giving up what our white ancestors stole and got by slavery ... can save us. (but even that won't work for the Trump irredeemable)
Kayne has even said directly whites need to become a minority. That was apparently the plan with the 1965 immigration act ... Merkel only recently recanted on her plan to flood Germany with Muslims, but Hillary is full speed ahead here.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2016 09:31 AM (n6rAX)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:31 AM (fA75F)
Hillary was pausing at awkward times to either listen to the feed from her earpiece or she was trying to recall the canned answer.
Even if Hillary didn't have the questions beforehand, they were still all softballs on a tee ball post for her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2016 09:26 AM (pUDQf)
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Hillary had a mediocre debate and was obviously carried through by prep - the sort of prep that prepared her for the small range of topics that might come up and that Trump should have had too. There is no need for a conspiracy theory.
Trump is simply arrogant and intellectually incurious and thus has no interest in prepping for a debate. And it showed.
And yes, Holt favored Clinton, which a GOP candidate has to be ready for. When Trump led him to the e-mail issue, he asked Clinton about it.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:31 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Harambe for President at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (IbNoS)
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fair enough, as long as you stop sucking cock
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 27, 2016 09:31 AM (/CIN4)
That was God-Awful.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 09:31 AM (d6TTt)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 27, 2016 09:32 AM (97XyN)
Anyone else find it odd that Hillary wore a red pantsuit and Trump wore a blue tie? Weird.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 09:32 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:32 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (zu88C)
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You need to brush up on your history. This is... not good.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:32 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:33 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 27, 2016 09:33 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:33 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: scrood at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (3b9U4)
Yep. That would be a bigger story than collusion between Clinton, the FBI and the Department of Justice......
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (SgUT6)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (Om16U)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/244904/
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)
I still use the DeanScream from 2004 as my incoming e-mail alert. I haven't found anything better.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zoehZ)
Sure Harambe....
Trump underperformed, BUT he did not look like he was a clown....
That was 2/3ds the battle
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zu88C)
1) The entire evening was a set-up to attack Trump personally, hence no mention of emails; Benghazi
( Hillary had a disgruntled architect in the audience..seriously? what about the Benghazi survivor who was there?) It was ridiculously focusing on the minutiae of Trump's life while ignoring all the elephants in the room. To Trump's credit, he kept trying to steer the debate back to the actual issues.
2) Hillary is not one who thinks quickly on her feet and surprise attacks make her literally run-away, yet she was amazingly smug the entire evening - as if she knew before-hand it would be a night of tag-team event to throw personal attacks at Trump...that shw would receive softballs and not have to respond to any charges and not have to tell the truth.
Also, watch her closely at the next debate or go back over the video from this one: she starts out glowing and smiling and she frequently veers into harridan territory , then back to glowing and smiling. Are the meds wearing off? Is something being administered over time and it kicks in every now and then? It's odd how her physical features can change so extremely.
What
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (oQQwD)
Paranoidly speculates that Trump is after his stash.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (g6yUI)
1. Harambe does not meet minimum age requirements to be President. PERIOD.
2. Harambe has done ZERO to get his name on ballots in time to be President.
3. Harambe is dead.
4. While being a gorilla is not specifically excluded, Harambe's poor signing ability and temperament (along with his deadness) would mean he could not fulfill ANY of the duties associated with being President.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (d9v6L)
CNN is the Communist News Network, and NRO are their prophet.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (SzZnW)
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OK, without citing online polls or Sean Hannity, who thinks Trump won last night?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (mFkVC)
Webb Hubbell's penis came out too soon.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (ApT0U)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (Om16U)
1. Harambe does not meet minimum age requirements to be President. PERIOD.
2. Harambe has done ZERO to get his name on ballots in time to be President.
3. Harambe is dead.
4. While being a gorilla is not specifically excluded, Harambe's poor signing ability and temperament (along with his deadness) would mean he could not fulfill ANY of the duties associated with being President.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (d9v6L)
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but being dead doesn't stop him from voting for president......
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (/CIN4)
Reagan, a former democrat, governor of California.
Reagan's Democrat years were about 12 years in his past.
The coddling of communists flipped him, now it is "Monday."
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (SzZnW)
A DEMOCRAT governor.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (zu88C)
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You need to brush up on your history. This is... not good.
Posted by: person(a non grata)
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Thanks for the history lesson asshat. I am typing while working.
see my correction.
The point is that you are still pining for a perfect, pure candidate that does not exist.
Romney was flawed.
Get over it.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 09:32 AM (Enq6K)
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Mentioned upthread. HRC was able to use her female privilege to get custom podium and lectern and then use female privilege to wear a bright red suit.
Next time, demand blue, black or gray suits only for costuming.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (MIKMs)
That was 2/3ds the battle
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (SzZnW)
Jeez, he did fine.
I think the problem of a lot of us this morning is we're disappointed that She Bitch did not stroke out.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (d6TTt)
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Nah. If that were true, he'd have been a lot more lively & fun to watch.
Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (7HtZB)
What Trump said about arguing with Hannity for years on the issue is completely true.
Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (DofIg)
But then I don't believe there's a political solution here anyway, so.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 09:37 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 27, 2016 09:37 AM (d76uN)
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (mFkVC)
I don't think he won or lost....Same with Hillary. I'd say that is worse for Hillary.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable. at September 27, 2016 09:37 AM (Enq6K)
It wasn't much to hang your hat on. It gives her the advantage of 'winning' if she just remains upright.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2016 09:37 AM (g6yUI)
And that's why your staff took the fifth.
And why you tore apart a 12 year old rape victim.
And your husband's rape victims.
And lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi.
And lied your ass off about e-mails in your bathroom.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 27, 2016 09:37 AM (326rv)
Oh you'd rather hang your hat on 521 people and ~450 people sport?
Duly noted.
Look I get it you are HOT for Hillary.
I am not but will fake an orgasm for her in 2020.
By then this will be a defacto one party tyrannical oligarchy in overt and well as covert ways.
You be "ready for her" now and I will be by 2020, after people like you fuck conservatism to the dustbin of history I will make sure the GOP never wins another Presidential or Congressional race as much as is within my power.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:38 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zu88C)
OKKKKKKKK.... that's totally what you meant.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:38 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2016 09:38 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zu88C)
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Five year after leading an anti-Communist movement in Hollywood and two years after formally switching from the Democrats to the GOP, in support of Barry Goldwater's campaign and giving his incredible "A Time For Choosing" speech laying out the conservative principles he would later use to win election as President, Reagan was elected Governor of California.
Posted by: MTF at September 27, 2016 09:39 AM (/m8T6)
OK, without citing online polls or Sean Hannity, who thinks Trump won last night?
Posted by: person(a non grata)
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As was pointed out earlier today, Rombley won his first debate with Obama. By a country mile.
How'd that work out for him?
You nevertrumpers sitting by the phone waiting to be asked to the prom are pathetic.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:39 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 09:39 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 27, 2016 09:36 AM (9krr
Morning, Brother C.
Yeah, we're fine, and Last night means very little.
Some expectations may not have been met.
He didn't throat punch Hillary.
I was disappointed about that.
Posted by: tubal at September 27, 2016 09:40 AM (d6TTt)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:38 AM (SzZnW)
So you're hanging your hat on the Drudge polls and others like it?
Awesome.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:40 AM (mFkVC)
He left a LOT of potential bodyblows on the floor....
I am not a fan, nor have I ever been.
That said I have been a loyal GOP volunteer/donor since I was 16.
If/when the Bush wing of the party sinks us from the SS Butthurt this cycle that is dead.
I will go full retard mule as a survival mechanism.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:40 AM (SzZnW)
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151007796236/i-score-the-first-debate
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (Om16U)
I think that's about dead-on accurate.
Time (polls) will tell toward the end of the week.
Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (DofIg)
One of person() favorite line of attack is that Trump is a Democrat.
So was Reagan. People change.
That's the point.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Howard Dean at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (/O5Ax)
Follow-ups: Trump-6, Harridan-0
Trump debated the moderator and Hillary. Trump won.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (SgUT6)
Posted by: zombie walter cronkite at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (LdMbv)
521 people Tiger.
You're with her, and I am not.
See you in the funny papers.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (SzZnW)
DJT: While I was busy out on the campaign trail last week where were you Hillary?
HRC: Well "Donald" I was preparing for this debate and being President.
Do you get a week to prepare for emergencies as President? Maybe that's how Benghazi became the clusterf*ck it was. If they would have given her a week to study it would have turned out OK.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (XtAzU)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, deplorable is better than despicable at September 27, 2016 09:42 AM (0O7c5)
423 340 Howard Dean speculates that Trump is on coke.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/244904/
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2016 09:11 AM (fA75F)
I still use the DeanScream from 2004 as my incoming e-mail alert. I haven't found anything better.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zoehZ)
The original 1954 Godzilla roar. Cracks up everyone in the shop when I get emails.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2016 09:42 AM (Twghx)
I will not type while working and leave out words.
I will not type while working and leave out words.
I will not type while working and leave out words.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:42 AM (zu88C)
"Ok,ok,ok Hillary we will ask questions in a bogus "pre-fact checked" manner for you. Now leave me alone!!
"What!!"
"You also want me to not ask any of the 6 questions that the people want to hear your side of the story on about your, slap in the face corruption?"
But, but,but. Ah what the heck, Ok.
Posted by: Drider at September 27, 2016 09:43 AM (bdzyz)
Yeah ... I think that's part of it. Does not help that we're a generally quick witted bunch that wanted Trump to be just as quick.
He stood up there for two hours, looked to belong just as much as she did, and held his own.
That's probably good enough for round one.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 27, 2016 09:44 AM (Fv8UY)
One of person() favorite line of attack is that Trump is a Democrat.
So was Reagan. People change.
That's the point.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (zu88C)
Yes, people do change. Reagan had clear, articulate reasons for his change that corresponded to cultural developments and shifts within the parties. He explained them cogently and demonstrated a firm grasp on Conservative principle.
Trump changed because... well, he never really tells us. In reality, its because he wanted to run for President. And he still retains all the instincts and opinions of a New York Dem.
Stop insulting a good leader to bolster a con-man. It's embarrassing.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:44 AM (mFkVC)
Plus 26 dem.
Let that sink in for a second. They think a +26 skew in a poll is even worth taking, much less reporting on, says a lot about CNN and very little about what they're polling.
To nobody's suprise, Clinton won that poll.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 27, 2016 09:44 AM (kKHcp)
why do you care?
Posted by: phoenixgirl, deplorable is better than despicable at September 27, 2016 09:42 AM (0O7c5)
Care about what?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 27, 2016 09:45 AM (mFkVC)
Reagan was a former Democrat governor.
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:34 AM (zu88C)
OKKKKKKKK.... that's totally what you meant.
Posted by: person(a non grata)
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You got me.
I actually believed that Reagan was a Democrat governor. You know, having voted for the guy and all.
Congratulations.
You finally get to say I told you so.
Now wasn't the warm feeling in your pants worth it, troll?
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:45 AM (zu88C)
I'll go one further, they know who they are calling and they call known people to get the results they want.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 27, 2016 09:46 AM (SzZnW)
on the way to work this morning. The caller said Hillary used up all
her best attack lines in this debate and doesn't have anything left.
Apparently James Carville essentially had the same take as this caller.
So all in all I do feel a little better this morning about it.
Posted by: Independent George (subscribes to the worlds theory) at September 27, 2016 07:42 AM (BDZWU)
I was thinking this last night. I think the only thing she didn't mention was Trump University, whereas he pretty much still has a lot of legitimate ammo to use against her.It was interesting to watch various talking heads last night, but the general consensus was that Hillary's goal was to shore up her base, which she desperately needed to do. Her message was the delusional same-old-same-old Democrat ideas, nothing new, which is not a good thing; she needed to convince the Dem fence straddlers, and they all pretty agreed she didn't do that.
Tucker Carlson was on with some Democrat, and he just kept laughing at the guy's analysis. Carlson basically said, whatevs, Trump's gonna win.
Posted by: Joanne at September 27, 2016 09:46 AM (0s2g3)
He needs to stand tall like Comey and not flinch in his duties and refuse to be bought off or intimidated!
Well let me put it another way...........
Posted by: Drider at September 27, 2016 09:46 AM (bdzyz)
Man, It's like he threw a bucket of blood on you.
*Flails arms in a rattlesnake preacher mode*
Posted by: Drider at September 27, 2016 09:50 AM (bdzyz)
The beautiful and intelligent Mr naturalfake is a very good people-person,
****
You're trying to get laid again, already?
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:51 AM (09Ay7)
Wallace knows where his paycheck comes from!
Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at September 27, 2016 09:52 AM (wCEn4)
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151007796236/i-score-the-first-debate
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 09:35 AM (Om16U)
I think that's about dead-on accurate.
Time (polls) will tell toward the end of the week.
Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 27, 2016 09:41 AM (DofIg)
Yes, I agree. I expect to see Hillary get a bump in the polls, but it will be temporary.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:53 AM (zoehZ)
I'm only getting $140 for it. (a Ford Escort GT)
Should I go ahead with it?Posted by: Heidi at September 27, 2016 09:30 AM (tsLLe)
****Do you itemize or take the standard deduction? If you take the standard, go ahead and sell it, after finding out the state law on salvage. If you itemize, donate it.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:54 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 27, 2016 09:57 AM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Heidi at September 27, 2016 10:01 AM (tsLLe)
We Small Diameter Bomb a building so we don't have to MLRS the neighborhood.
Posted by: DaveA at September 27, 2016 10:02 AM (8J/Te)
Posted by: biancaneve at September 27, 2016 10:12 AM (IKOfL)
Thanks, Mortimer. Glad someone at least read my post. Anything else is unimportant.
Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at September 27, 2016 10:30 AM (M0wRt)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 27, 2016 09:27 AM (zu88C)
Although once a registered Democrat, Ronald Reagan was Republican governor of California from 1967 to 1975.
Posted by: troyriser at September 27, 2016 11:01 AM (OGbEB)
I think his job last night was not to attack personally and he did it and people thought he was more 'Presidential" than they expected.
He has plenty of time to nail her on the emails and the foundation (same thing), and have someone else nail her on rape/harassment enabling.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 27, 2016 11:19 AM (iWW0H)
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