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Monday Overnight Open Thread (9/26/16) [Mis. Hum.]
The Non-Debate The Education Overnight Open Thread Edition
-President John Adams
Instead of teaching multicultural crap, social justice, and self-esteem. Why not teach thermodynamics?
When I was a child......As long as you live under my roof.... Oh, the parents of today are a different lot.
Scientists, have they lost our trust? The fat, cholesterol and sugar studies gives one doubt. Now Valu-Rite. Say it aint so.
Global warming is another. An older news link. But worth reading, digesting and perhaps discussing. For example did you know we spend more money on "climate change" than we do on border security?
Moar science. Or why donuts of any variety are better for you than crystal meth. Why teach economics when you can learn to care about Brad and Angelina?
(NSFW-Language, you have been warned)
Preserved Nazi time capsule unearthed in Poland. Some one cared about history.
Are you teaching your children to become stewards of the earth? After reading this guide how many of you have failed in teaching?
The laws of unintended consequences.
So Horde is he on to something or is he just full of himself? Seems to me since the dawn of recorded history mankind always wanted something better. Is the problem secular humanism? Is the love of money the root of all evil? I struggle with the fact that I helped create this contemporary consumer culture.
And at the same time, I’m repulsed by it, disturbed by it. The reality is we are all actual humans, we live in a material world where material beauty brings us a certain level of enjoyment in our lives, but we can’t let it overtake that. …When will Civics classes teach Socialism does not work? Even Democratic Socialism as espoused by Crazy Uncle Bernie.
What have we learned about self-driving cars?Autonomous cars can be hacked.
Multiple diseases such as polio and malaria have been controlled. The life expectancy of men and women have increased. Why is the mortality rate in the U.S.A. sliding?
Education requires books. You can be a bookstore owner, with a catch.
Text book authors with a sense of humor.
Add water makes it's own sauce.
Modern science meets Mother Nature.
Genius Award.
Feel good story of the day There shouldn't be a shortage of all that pumpkin spice crap hitting store shelves now.
Try this. Cheaper than online dating, safer than Craiglist friendships.
News tips, spare change and unmatched socks can be sent here. Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Neighborhood Watch Program.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)HIya!
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 11:23 PM (oGNNA)
Don't worry, sir, you'll have no debate discussion from me.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 11:24 PM (oGNNA)
Posted by: Fat man in the bathtub at September 26, 2016 11:25 PM (oFVzZ)
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable forever 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at September 26, 2016 11:26 PM (1rHQ7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2016 11:26 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at September 26, 2016 11:26 PM (5fSr7)
I'm looking for good Android games now.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 11:27 PM (oGNNA)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2016 11:27 PM (gVpIT)
Perhaps I'm just cynical now, but here's how I see it.
One of the them will drive us off the cliff.
The other might give us time to activate the airbags, for all the good it will do.
Some choice.
Posted by: The Deplorable Captain Whitebread at September 26, 2016 11:27 PM (rJUlF)
Donuts Are Healthier Than Crystal Meth.
Low bar, everybody down.
Low bar cause we're comin' to a town.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2016 11:29 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jim at September 26, 2016 11:29 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 11:29 PM (WnZAV)
Posted by: freaked at September 26, 2016 11:30 PM (BO/km)
I think Trump will be fine
and i think Hillary will be so exhausted by the ordeal and drugs that she will take another few days off
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (hSD8y)
Trump destroyed Killary on trade. (First thirty minutes)
Trump reached out to bernie folks how bernie got fucked.
Trump hung in and fought TWO debaters, Holt and
Trump wins. Going away... Imho
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (bQJ3C)
The problem is that they are BOUGHT.
The whole "fat" thing is the result of the fucking sugar industry succeeding in demonizing fat and then ducking out of the way.
I know 2 things about health:
1.) Eating fat does not make you fat.
2.) Stop eating sugar, damn it! For God's sake, snap out of it!
Every single scientist knows this. They're just a bunch of corporate whores.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (BhW1F)
Not likely to ever happen though.
Posted by: davidt at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (XoldI)
Posted by: lowtech redneck at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (egK2C)
11 Bourbon Fueled ONT greetings, Horde!
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10 minutes before the debate, I discovered there was no alcohol of any kind in the house. Now I have a headache anyway. It's like I've gone straight from sobriety to hangover with no intervening stage of intoxication.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (oGNNA)
Posted by: freaked at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (bQJ3C)
Here's a good list
http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/09/26/who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780591168916754432
http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360?lang=en
http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/
https://twitter.com/pzf/status/780598058161610752
http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate
http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/297924-poll-who-won-the-debate
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880
https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/780597883481489408
https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780597916549382145
https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697
https://twitter.com/ElNuevoDia/status/780598511100309506
https://twitter.com/VeronicaDLCruz/status/780600951153364992
https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/780600866411646976
http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-2016-presidential-debates/
http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/09/take-our-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
Posted by: Julius at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: Methos at September 26, 2016 11:33 PM (3Liv/)
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I say just teach them to fucking read and write! The rest will be up to them.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:33 PM (BhW1F)
this was the best mrs. kravitz.
the red headed one and the second darrin
can go jump in a lake.
Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2016 11:34 PM (JY0LF)
The problem is that they are BOUGHT.
The whole "fat" thing is the result of the fucking sugar industry succeeding in demonizing fat and then ducking out of the way.
I know 2 things about health:
1.) Eating fat does not make you fat.
2.) Stop eating sugar, damn it! For God's sake, snap out of it!
Every single scientist knows this. They're just a bunch of corporate whores.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (BhW1F)
I've pretty much eliminated sugar from my diet and I feel better than I have in a long, long time.
Oh that song was a hoot.
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 26, 2016 11:34 PM (s7hQ/)
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:33 PM (BhW1F)
*****
Yeah, that would be enough.
Posted by: GrampyB at September 26, 2016 11:35 PM (np6o8)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 26, 2016 11:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 26, 2016 11:35 PM (C9pBZ)
And NASA's big Europa news: Europa is spewing huge water jets from the surface, going as high as 125 miles above the surface. Since it's spewing so much water, this will make drilling down to detect organic compounds (signs of life in the subsurface ocean) unnecessary. A probe can sample the jets.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 26, 2016 11:36 PM (DW+jj)
May lead to hangovers and regrets.
Posted by: Methos
Yes, don't use your real name, get s throwaway VoIP number. Good luck.
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:38 PM (ngn8T)
I support this message. Although, if I'm going to drink a blended Scotch, I'll stick with Gold label Johnny Walker.
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:38 PM (/O5Ax)
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (BhW1F)
No doubt they approved, but as Taubes tells the story, the anti-fat thing got going because of Ancel Keys, an influential and charismatic "scientist" who cherry-picked a very large multi-country study and won his point, as he should not have. Is there an alternate history you can point to that shows it all coming about in some other way?
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (ODkrH)
Posted by: Michael Moore on Twitter Right Now at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (5JBUT)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (VdICR)
Trump reached out to bernie folks how bernie got fucked.
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 26, 2016 11:31 PM (bQJ3C)
Trump has been reaching out to Bernie voters all along, and I think that's exactly the right thing to do.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 26, 2016 11:39 PM (sdi6R)
I support this message. Although, if I'm going to drink a blended Scotch, I'll stick with Gold label Johnny Walker.
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:38 PM (/O5Ax)
I got to taste the Blue Label once. Whoa. Great stuff.
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:40 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 26, 2016 11:40 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 11:41 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 26, 2016 11:41 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: The Floydian Hat at September 26, 2016 11:41 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Billy Occam at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (/542q)
Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 11:41 PM (KhJh
That would require seeing his ugly bulbous blob of a face. No thanks.
Posted by: buzzion at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (gVpIT)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 26, 2016 11:40 PM (DW+jj)
Time is the scourge of us all.
And STDs don't help either.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (cC/ZB)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 26, 2016 11:40 PM (DW+jj)
Have some mercy. Just had to look at Hillary's face for 90 minutes. Not the visual I needed after that.
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 26, 2016 11:43 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Splunge
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"How the sugar industry shifted the blame to fat"
http://tinyurl.com/hpgjst5
Keys is mentioned, but he's not the total driving force.
Goddamned scientists are gonna kill us all.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:43 PM (BhW1F)
Posted by: freaked at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (BO/km)
Only if someone with a bully pulpit, such as a president, could've warned against mixing the federal leviathan with science.
Oh, wait...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (vBpiM)
I think that the Chlamydia, Herpes, and AIDS are all working together to actually keep Bill alive.
He's quite the vector.
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (It7Oy)
I have a bottle in the liquor cabinet. It's a little too smooth for me. I like a little more smoke.
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (/O5Ax)
My kids are now repeat in my mantra: Everything I feed you, other than water and salt is organic.
They don't get the joke yet, but some of their teachers do.
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (ngn8T)
Hillary does the staining these days. Poor guy had to walk behind her on those stairs...
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:45 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (vBpiM)
*****
Civics, as well.
Posted by: GrampyB at September 26, 2016 11:45 PM (np6o8)
WE'RE FUCKING DOOMED, TRUMP IS GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED IN A NUCLEAR WAR, I WISH WE STILL HAD BUSH AGAIN, AHHHHHHHHH *stuffs face with more ho hos*
Posted by: Michael Moore
Nuclear war with whom? The Dems all say Trump is a Putin lover. China? North Korea?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (IqV8l)
How delightful for the Michael Moores of the world that they can find that fear all over again with Trump!
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (BhW1F)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (kP16F)
No effect at all. Zero.
Debates don't change minds. Nobody cares about them. They're a spectacle but nobody watches a debate and goes "you know what? I was wrong about that guy, no he has my vote!"
In the end, Hillary is gonna win, I can feel it in my spleen. I won't get optimistic or hopeful, because that always ends in misery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (39g3+)
Agreed. Seems to me that the pricier and such varieties have less flavor...
but I prefer darker cigars as well, so there's that.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (C9pBZ)
If you believe the system is rigged against you and you watch a guy dealing with a debate where the rules were clearly rigged against him, chances are it's not Hillary you're going to be rooting for.
I bet this will move a few soft BernieBros further into Trump's corner.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at September 26, 2016 11:46 PM (5JBUT)
It's over. Trump, the egoist, the racist, the narcissist, the liar, "won."
We all lost. His numbers will go up. She told the truth. So what.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: Hillary's Deplorable SteinMart Suit at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (26e2V)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (KOBAq)
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (vBpiM)
Instead, they get critical race theory.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (GUBah)
http://tinyurl.com/hpgjst5
Keys is mentioned, but he's not the total driving force.
Goddamned scientists are gonna kill us all.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:43 PM (BhW1F)
Yow. I might have wished for a longer, more detailed article, but there's no question that that was a very good response. Thanks.
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (It7Oy)
Iran, about 90 minutes after they call to tell him "America must convert to Islam or die!"
Thanks, 0bama!
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (WnZAV)
Ahh, now we are talking. I think you are actually in my liquor cabinet right now. I have an Oban 14 and a Caol Ila 12 I left at my parents' house for when we visit at Thanksgiving. Can't wait to crack those open.
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:47 PM (/O5Ax)
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:48 PM (It7Oy)
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Easy, HEAT- flow->COLD
That's it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 26, 2016 11:41 PM (Z58Xa
Well there went a full semester.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 26, 2016 11:48 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Splunge
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Yeah, that was a quickie.
I could've dug up something with more heft to it given time.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:48 PM (BhW1F)
I meant to link this before the debate. Not many songs mention "debate" in their lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C1BCAgu2I8
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Wino Man at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (BO/km)
Organic just means it contains carbon, right? Are there no foods (i.e. Frankenfoods) without carbon?
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: buzzion at September 26, 2016 11:42 PM (bMG0w)
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Normally that would be true, but in this case it is worth it. He actually is making a few good logical political points, interspersed by left wing rant tweets which you can ignore.
Like I wrote in another thread he probably does understand Michigan union politics, and other blue wall states well. Sounds like us in September 2008...very worried.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 26, 2016 11:50 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 26, 2016 11:50 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (vBpiM)
Instead, they get critical race theory.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG)
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And a ball pit... Yeah. Just like at Chuck E. Cheese.
http://moonbattery.com/?p=76573
It's time to just shut the colleges down. Turn out the lights on western civilization.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:50 PM (BhW1F)
I support this message. Although, if I'm going to drink a blended Scotch, I'll stick with Gold label Johnny Walker.
Red Label is a great cheap scotch. Green is the best Johnny Walker unless you want to go Blue. Green is great for the $$.
Posted by: thpfister@bresnan.net at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (CL76w)
Really? Compared to what? Robotic Rubio? Jabbering Jeb?
Frankly, Trump did relatively WELL in the GOP primary debates.
Which says a lot about the GOP candidates in general.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (hSD8y)
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Actually, Romney moved ahead 4 points to overtake Obama in the RCP average after the first debate. Then he sucked the mighty ass of Crowley and that was the end of that.
Even then, I read a study of the impact debates have on polls going back a half century, and that Romney's bounce was really a temporary result of his base finally getting energized about him,but then his polls waned back to where it was prior to the first debate. So even if Crowley hadn't sliced his balls, chances are it wouldn't have made a difference.
In almost all cases, the the polls shifts from debates rarely made a difference as to who won the election.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (5JBUT)
Being a seller of used books has a cachet that being a seller of used cars does not.
Odd that. Eh? What?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (s/vC3)
I have a bottle in the liquor cabinet. It's a little too smooth for me. I like a little more smoke.
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (/O5Ax)
Ok, send it this way. I think it's awesome. But I get you. I've tasted fancy XO cognacs that I thought were boring compared to VSOP from the same house.
If you want more smoke, consider Talisker. It's like a more refined Laphroaig.
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (iMxBJ)
I believe I will have another drink.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (ZxmMG)
Pepsi Free?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2016 11:52 PM (KOBAq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2016 11:52 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 11:52 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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And let me save you four years of college-level drama classes:
Memorize your lines. Say them like that character would actually say them. Say them loud enough so that they can be heard in the balcony.
...Oh, and don't bump into the furniture.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (BhW1F)
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (ngn8T)
Roughly.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (gyKtp)
Night all.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (GUBah)
And this is from someone who buys generic white rum by choice.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (KOBAq)
Odd that. Eh? What?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
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Because the old coot who runs the used bookstore never - NEVER! - comes out from behind the counter. In fact, he doesn't seem to give a shit that you're in the store.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (BhW1F)
Posted by: thpfister@bresnan.net at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (CL76w)
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Red Label is for alcoholics. So, you know, it should be popular here.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (SUtNI)
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (ngn8T)
Yeah, never quite got Bourbon. It just tastes like char and sugar to me. Rye, on the other hand...not sure I've ever tasted better whiskey than the now-unobtainable Sazerac 18 year.
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (w/iDp)
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 11:49 PM (ZxmMG)
Pepsi Free?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 26,
Organic, means it has carbon. Not sure about Pepsi Free.
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Adriane the Cynical Political Critic ... at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM (AoK0a)
Your gestures and movements have to be broad and physical enough that people way in the back can tell what you're doing. On TV you talk fast, on the stage you don't.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 11:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 11:55 PM (ebcV9)
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:55 PM (ngn8T)
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 11:55 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Splunge at September 26, 2016 11:54 PM
If you can find a bottle, High West made a nice rye.
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:56 PM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 26, 2016 11:56 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: otho at September 26, 2016 11:56 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: no good deed at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (/O5Ax)
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (It7Oy)
He's quite the vector.
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (It7Oy)
Bio-sensing and communications between three different pathogens to keep their vector alive? Interesting concept.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (cC/ZB)
Memorize your lines. Say them like that character would actually say them. Say them loud enough so that they can be heard in the balcony.
...Oh, and don't bump into the furniture.
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (BhW1F
Where were you when I was taking Latin in HS?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: thpfister@bresnan.net at September 26, 2016 11:58 PM (CL76w)
No "New Math," no new New Math, no Common Core bullshit, no nuthin'. Just hard ass learning the old fashion way. Boring, but essential to learning to learn.
It's exactly the same as learning a new language. Because it IS learning a new language.
.
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 26, 2016 11:58 PM (no0Da)
*ducks*
Posted by: Anon a mouse
Double Jack and the Rocks was my drink for a long time. Then old age and diabetes came around. I don't Bourbon is any worse then Scotch, but it makes me think of pecan pie or key lime pie and ice cream.
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:58 PM (ngn8T)
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (It7Oy
Never met a scotch i couldn't puke
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (BhW1F)
Dammit, that's my line.
Posted by: Spencer Tracy at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Gem at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (uaHyk)
I'm a non-drinker. (Like a hard-ass Carrie Nation type!) But my wife likes her drinks.
She just got a new, awful - FUCKING AWFUL! - commute, and I want to surprise her by making the best Manhattan ever when she comes home!
I've looked up the recipe, but they're all in conflict as to the proper ingredients.
What to do?
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (BhW1F)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 27, 2016 12:00 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Thrawn
There's a good sci-fi book topic right there
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:00 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: #NeverHillary at September 26, 2016 11:51 PM (5JBUT)
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Interesting. In that case, RELEASE THE ADS!
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:00 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:53 PM (BhW1F)
Dammit, that's my line.
Posted by: Spencer Tracy
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I always liked Jimmy Cagney's simple acting advice: "Look the other fella in the eye, and tell the truth."
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:00 AM (BhW1F)
What to do?
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (BhW1F)
Let her make her own, Sugar Dick
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:00 AM (voOPb)
There will be close to 3000 comments during the debate thread(s). Another couple of thousands afterwards.
Eh, close enough. There were about 3k comments on the 3 debate threads, but quite a few less on the after debate one.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 27, 2016 12:01 AM (gyKtp)
118 I think that the Chlamydia, Herpes, and AIDS are all working together to actually keep Bill alive.
He's quite the vector.
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2016 11:44 PM (It7Oy)
Bio-sensing and communications between three different pathogens to keep their vector alive? Interesting concept.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 26, 2016 11:57 PM (cC/ZB)
Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!
https://youtu.be/aI0euMFAWF8
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 12:01 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 12:01 AM (XGrlW)
Damn White Cheddar Cheesits
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 11:55 PM (ngn8T)
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Damn you for telling me about them.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:02 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: Gem
****
Or because she did not rip out Trump's still beating heart and eat it, he sees it as a loss. Hard to say.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 12:02 AM (hVdx9)
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Dude, she got me backstage at a few Yes shows.
I'm allowed to be uxorious.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:02 AM (BhW1F)
I've looked up the recipe, but they're all in conflict as to the proper ingredients.
What to do?
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (BhW1F)
Make her the best one you can and tell her this.
Posted by: dDan at September 27, 2016 12:02 AM (hwYmz)
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Dude, she got me backstage at a few Yes shows.
I'm allowed to be uxorious.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:02 AM (BhW1F
I believe you are!!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:03 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: Wino Man at September 27, 2016 12:03 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: dDan
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You drunks are really letting me down.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:03 AM (BhW1F)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 27, 2016 12:03 AM (C9pBZ)
And I can't drink, because on wellsite.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2016 12:04 AM (o9m/V)
I believe scotch is one of those acquired tastes, yes? Seems to make sense, and I can readily see how there'd be many variations of style and quality of the sort that would make it a good taste to acquire and explore.
Haven't had the chance to acquire it (not to worry, wine and beer and other hard stuff has been regularly checked out over the years, mostly to make sure it was safe for others, of course).
Other day I had some Glenlivet 12-yr old. I don't know where that ranks, but believe it's somewhat above the Valu-Rite equivalent level.
Was pretty good, smooth - enjoyable for a novice.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:04 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:04 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Bill R. at September 27, 2016 12:05 AM (jKUeC)
Posted by: Bill R. at September 27, 2016 12:05 AM (jKUeC)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (cC/ZB)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Jim Backus at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (DW+jj)
tens of millions on ads - no knockout. Now where does she go? That is why Michael Moore is in the dumps.
Posted by: An Observation at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (SAMq1)
A govt. worker goes to the backwoods of Maine to do some health research but the residents are mistrustful and he can't get much info. Finally he finds an old codger willing to open up and asks him, "Do you know what is the death rate in this county". Codger answers, "Oh, about one per person".
Posted by: FOAF at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (p0JMG)
I've looked up the recipe, but they're all in conflict as to the proper ingredients.
What to do?
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (BhW1F)
Tough path you've chosen there. I know a guy who has devoted much of his life to the concept of the Perfect Manhattan.
It should have just rye, red vermouth, and bitters. You can certainly add the cherry, but don't bother if it's from those supermarket jars.
Red vermouth selection is critical. I have not made a study of the Manhattan, but I would guess that Dolin would be decent, Punta a Mes would be a lot better, and Carpano Antico would be either perfect or a bit much.
For bitters, Agnostura is universal, but I'm not much of a fan. Bitter Truth, maybe.
For Rye, not sure. A good manhattan should have bite. At the least, Rittenhouse 100, not that ubiquitous rye whose name I am forgetting at the moment.
Posted by: Splunge at September 27, 2016 12:06 AM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket...forever censored at September 27, 2016 12:07 AM (6qmBU)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:07 AM (uAvJJ)
You drunks are really letting me down.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:03 AM (BhW1F)
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Pour Valu-rite into glass, plunk in some ice cubes, and stir with your finger.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:07 AM (oGNNA)
MisHum thanks as always for a good ONT.
And on-topic, "we used to teach Greek and Latin in high school, now we teach remedial English in college".
Perhaps overdrawn a bit (though perhaps not too much), but sadly fairly accurate as to the changes in just a generation or two.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:07 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:08 AM (BhW1F)
- Arnold Sommerfeld (1868-1951)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 12:08 AM (9mTYi)
Chocolate. Eat and purge.
Something you love so much, that you partake, and then, vomit.
That was tonight, and necessarily in that order.
When I was involved in active campaigns--back in the '70's and 80's--debate prep was "it. You had a press availability coming up, you looked at the "press" and asked questions of the candidate with campaign folks willing to jeer. It didn't matter is the jeering was appropriate or not; getting smashed in a public event kills the campaign. Knowing how to react--even if you're staving off a Parkinson's event--is priceless.
Trump's people will never troll my small page. They may troll yours.
Hey, Ace! (Not the real Ace, but Trump.)
Wake up!
You're getting your ass handed to you, because you don't trust people with more experience than you! Good thing you never needed an attorney!
The dicks at the RNC know what they're doing, and you don't. And if Hillary is elected?
It's all about your choices.
Peace.
Out.
.
Posted by: OregonGuy at September 27, 2016 12:08 AM (z+J0k)
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Yeah, former presidents Dole, Romney, and McCain agree with you.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 12:10 AM (hVdx9)
Welcome - er, I guess, welcome and so long, OregonGuy!
Incoherent and vehement are not typically a productive combo, yet we get to enjoy quite a bit of that around here.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (R5HRU)
Hahahahahahahahahhahahahah :: gasp:: ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah
Posted by: Gem at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (uaHyk)
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Thus the comment by WFB, "Ignorance is organic to youth"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (ngn8T)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780440812203171840
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780441012829294597
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780441224897499136
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780441440233095169
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780441688749793280
Posted by: kbdabear at September 27, 2016 12:15 AM (Ya7zs)
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (R5HRU)
and it can stay way
How ya doing bud?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:15 AM (voOPb)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780441938617049088
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780442136600842241
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780442345196097536
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780442499018002434
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780442741385887745
Posted by: kbdabear at September 27, 2016 12:16 AM (Ya7zs)
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:16 AM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: origional Jake at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (cHYKB)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (hVdx9)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780442918473662464
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780443101160673281
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780443294887280640
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780443449581527040
Posted by: kbdabear at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (Ya7zs)
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Yeah, former presidents Dole, Romney, and McCain agree with you.
THAT had to sting a bit.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (gyKtp)
Chilli doesn't have beans.
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (ngn8T)
Actually I have a great LCHF chili recipe. But it does call for a lot of beans.
http://tinyurl.com/mrqmre8
And even I could do it, so anyone can do it.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:18 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: origional Jake at September 27, 2016 12:18 AM (cHYKB)
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 12:18 AM (SUtNI)
Lester to Hillary: You look beautiful tonight and I love your Chairman Mao pant suit. So when you are President what color will you paint the oval office?
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 27, 2016 12:18 AM (Fbj4h)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (ngn8T)
Not even re-fried?
Posted by: The Refried Hat at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (vBeA5)
How about yourself?
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:16 AM (R5HRU
Living the dream or just another day in paradise
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (voOPb)
thathalfrican, I observed some of the melee below, but as is my increasing wont stayed out of it.
Very few seem to focus much on ace's post (well, now THERE's a shocking new trend!), which they might well have done, in a sense.
That sense being that these events sometimes have specific potential value/danger for specific candidates, depending entirely on the overall circumstances. The comparatively well-informed and focused sorts (those who comment on such forums as this) tend to just give their own reactions, as if they were the target audience. But it's rarely the case.
Time and surveys may tell, but the two tonight had very different needs/objectives, given what appears to be the overall campaign dynamic, and would not seem anything important really happened. Which is bad news for one side - the one on the short end of the current dynamic.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (ngn8T)
Agreed. But it isn't illegal to add beans to chilli.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (zc3Db)
Has there ever been anyone who was Sec State, who then became President?
Especially a Sec State in turbulent times?
Posted by: Don Q. at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (qf6WZ)
That's another meaning of organic, a integral, or fundamental part of the whole.
Another meaning is "acting like a living thing".
And another meaning if "relating to bodily organs".
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (DW+jj)
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:12 AM (R5HRU)
and it can stay way
Fine with me. I'm catching up. Are we still on Rye and Bourbon and Scotch?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (mgbwf)
Maddening if you let it be. I choose not to. (Honestly, it's not like there's a damn thing I can do about it anyway! I have enough things to worry about that I do have some measure of control over.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (vyqqu)
Chocolate. Eat and purge.
Something you love so much, that you partake, and then, vomit.
That was tonight, and necessarily in that order.
When I was involved in active campaigns--back in the '70's and 80's--debate prep was "it. You had a press availability coming up, you looked at the "press" and asked questions of the candidate with campaign folks willing to jeer. It didn't matter is the jeering was appropriate or not; getting smashed in a public event kills the campaign. Knowing how to react--even if you're staving off a Parkinson's event--is priceless.
Trump's people will never troll my small page. They may troll yours.
Hey, Ace! (Not the real Ace, but Trump.)
Wake up!
You're getting your ass handed to you, because you don't trust people with more experience than you! Good thing you never needed an attorney!
The dicks at the RNC know what they're doing, and you don't. And if Hillary is elected?
It's all about your choices.
Peace.
Out.
.
Posted by: OregonGuy at September 27, 2016 12:08 AM (z+J0k)
Not "Peace Out" but #DicksOutForHarambe
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (1JnAL)
He found that the copies of a particular book which had been issued to the committee contained nothing but blank pages. The rest of the committee approved of the book.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (9mTYi)
Newt is dead right. Trump destroyed Killary. With rust belt and bernie voters.
The last half, meh, draw at best I think.
No one gives a fuck. He held his own. Against TWO opponents. Yuge Trump win imho.
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 27, 2016 12:21 AM (aNSft)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (QDnY+)
Reading the main post is a sign of weakness.
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:21 AM (zc3Db)
To be honest I don't think I've ever had chili that didn't have beans.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:21 AM (uAvJJ)
Actually, ignorance is orgasmic to youth ... and leftists.
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (kP16F)
B Cochran puts carrots in chili. He's internet infamous for it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (mgbwf)
Speaking of alcohol, I discovered a new wine, 19 Crimes. It is a red blend, and very good (and rather strong). If you like red wine you should try it.
Did I say I had a whole bottle tonight? Oh, I did.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at September 27, 2016 12:23 AM (R5HRU)
Posted by: IC at September 27, 2016 12:23 AM (vBpiM)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (mgbwf)
Now, THAT's illegal!
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:23 AM (zc3Db)
That's positively Mad Magazine material right there.
Posted by: Fred Weldon at September 27, 2016 12:25 AM (GuPwg)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/780443294887280640
Posted by: kbdabear at September 27, 2016 12:17 AM (Ya7zs)
It sure ain't nature.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:25 AM (sdi6R)
because people who are relatively happy and content live longer.
no one is happy or content in this feminized, politicized, infantilized culture we have created.
Posted by: Shoey at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (vA94g)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:22 AM (mgbwf)
Now, THAT's illegal!
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair
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Pretty sure that's what brought about the creation of the Texas Rangers.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (BhW1F)
Posted by: IC at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (vBpiM)
I'll have the IWC Schaffhausen.
Posted by: and thanks! at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (xACMO)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (It7Oy)
https://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=105551
Coarse grind the venison, you can blend in some beef ( and bacon, shhhh if everything is too lean)
Use the furmano ancho chilli tomatoes not the hotel, for both cans
Don't use the prepared seasoning, experiment with your own. Keep lab grade notes.
Dont use canned peppers, use real ones, cook them down with onions.
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (ngn8T)
It goes on hot dogs, not in a bowl.
That is all.
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 12:26 AM (SmF1m)
Posted by: origional Jake at September 27, 2016 12:18 AM (cHYKB)
That' so the press can't see the hook that swings out and scoops her in, like they used to have on railway mail cars to snag mailbags without stopping.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2016 12:27 AM (o9m/V)
Single malt Scotches have a unique taste, each its own individually. They can be smoky or peaty or all kinds of things that aren't natural to the tongue, but they can be sublime.
It's a different category of drinking but it's worth exploring.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:27 AM (mgbwf)
Has there ever been anyone who was Sec State, who then became President?
Especially a Sec State in turbulent times?
Posted by: Don Q. at September 27, 2016 12:20 AM (qf6WZ)
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Thomas Jefferson was our very first Secretary of State and went on to become the third President. I think James Monroe was also Sec State. Maybe Madison too? Not sure without consulting Google on those but Jefferson for sure. Hell. I think John Quincy Adams may have been SecState too.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 12:27 AM (SUtNI)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale
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Heh. Clip from 'Bridge Over the River Kwai', "Kill him!... Kill him!"
http://tinyurl.com/ha6zmq8
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Shoey
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Did someone say "infantilized"? Seriously, you need to see my post (above) about about the ball pits at colleges.
I'm not someone to cry into my pillow if my post doesn't get any responses, but this one is downright sick.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (BhW1F)
So I was right on the ones I named and missed Van Buren and Buchanan. Hasn't happened in a long long time though.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (SUtNI)
That's fucked up.
Posted by: garrett
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Well... Florida.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 12:29 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 27, 2016 12:29 AM (PtOP4)
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (BhW1F)
Wasn't there a thread about that the other day? Or am I confusing sites?
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:29 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:29 AM (It7Oy)
A few, with more spice than sense, but most were flavor festivals of the finest order.
But to the entire gourmand experience? Damn few of those chilis wouldn't have benefited by the judicious blending of a suitable quantity of beans.
Doesn't just affect the flavor. But entirely enhances the texture, satisfaction, "fullness" and just the overall sense of "aaaahhhhhh", after polishing off a hearty bowl of the red.
And crumbling in a few stacks of Saltine Crackers?
Dear Gawd, you just ain't lived to you put all those together into one single bowl of bliss.
I respect the Chili Purists. And Chili contests MUST BE sans beans. It's the only true measure of the bowl.
But for EATING, then bring on the beans n' crackers.
Oh, and some graded cheddar cheese, and few cans of good beer.
Might die bloated, but you'll die happy.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 27, 2016 12:30 AM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (aNSft)
Under Monroe I think.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:29 AM (It7Oy)
Author of the "Monroe Doctrine".
Outward looking without being a Euro-style imperialist...
Posted by: The Outward Hat at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:32 AM (It7Oy)
thathalfrican, I observed some of the melee below, but as is my increasing wont stayed out of it.
Very
few seem to focus much on ace's post (well, now THERE's a shocking new
trend!), which they might well have done, in a sense.
That sense
being that these events sometimes have specific potential value/danger
for specific candidates, depending entirely on the overall
circumstances. The comparatively well-informed and focused sorts (those
who comment on such forums as this) tend to just give their own
reactions, as if they were the target audience. But it's rarely the
case.
Time and surveys may tell, but the two tonight had very
different needs/objectives, given what appears to be the overall
campaign dynamic, and would not seem anything important really happened.
Which is bad news for one side - the one on the short end of the
current dynamic.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:19 AM (QDnY+)
As usual, I'm in agreement with you, rhomboid. We are far more informed than the not-yet-persuaded voter who was watching this debate. I am guessing that voter will be more inclined as a result of this debate to vote for the candidate who was running for President of the United States and not for the one who was running for President of NATO, Black Lives Matter, Japan, or whatever. Trump was saying ridiculous things about keeping the oil and there wouldn't have been an ISIS, which we know to be ridiculous (or at least conflating two completely different things, Iraq's oil production and Syria's oil production in ISIS-held areas), but there is a kernel of truth there that to a person who is not that well-informed sounds like, well, he's on the side of our country and she isn't. He's on the side of law and order and she isn't. He's against the Federal Reserve and she isn't. I think on the whole, Trump comes out the winner among those who have not yet made up their minds.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 27, 2016 12:33 AM (DC/ZC)
Here's a good list
http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/09/26/who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780591168916754432
http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-presidential-debate/
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/780597817605775360?lang=en
http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/
https://twitter.com/pzf/status/780598058161610752
http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate
http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/297924-poll-who-won-the-debate
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/780598729975930880
https://twitter.com/ABC7News/status/780597883481489408
https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/780597923667058688
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.html
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780597916549382145
https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/780598600728477697
https://twitter.com/ElNuevoDia/status/780598511100309506
https://twitter.com/VeronicaDLCruz/status/780600951153364992
https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/780600866411646976
http://politicsnow.buffalonews.com/2016/09/26/poll-won-first-2016-presidential-debates/
http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/09/take-our-poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/poll-who-won-the-first-presidential-debate/
Posted by: Julius at September 26, 2016 11:32 PM (Jzg4b)
THANKS! DONE!!
Online polls are crap, but some may be fooled by them. Be sure to give Lester & Hillary a big FU, by voting against them, whether you thought Trump won or not.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 12:33 AM (EnK/R)
Oh, and some graded cheddar cheese, and few cans of good beer.
Sour cream?
Serious question.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:33 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:34 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (BhW1F)
Wasn't there a thread about that the other day? Or am I confusing sites?
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair
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Perhaps I missed it.
Saw it today on moonbattery. There's not much about colleges these days that stuns me, but they managed to!
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:34 AM (BhW1F)
Wow.
So far there have been 2 real polls taken after the debate (not online click the winner BS).
PPP has Clinton winning 51-40, and CNN/ORC has Clinton winning with over 60% of the vote, if I heard correctly.
Trump's candidacy is all but over.
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (tWFOf)
Means nothing. I think she won the debate, too, but I'm voting Trump. Trump got his point across to the voter who was not paying attention until tonight. That was the target audience.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 27, 2016 12:34 AM (DC/ZC)
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:28 AM (BhW1F)
explain please, I'm not seeing where we disagree
Posted by: Shoey at September 27, 2016 12:34 AM (vA94g)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:34 AM (kP16F)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (QDnY+)
A severed finger!
Nothing like getting a hearty meal AND a jackpot lawsuit!
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (BhW1F)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:36 AM (kP16F)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:36 AM (It7Oy)
In-the-tank Democrat spin machine organization has the Democrat winning. Fascinating.
Posted by: Hoch Hech! at September 27, 2016 12:36 AM (xACMO)
So far there have been 2 real polls taken after the debate (not online click the winner BS).
PPP has Clinton winning 51-40, and CNN/ORC has Clinton winning with over 60% of the vote, if I heard correctly.
Trump's candidacy is all but over.
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (tWFOf)
Oh, please. There's over a month to go before the election. A lot can happen between now and then.
I never did care about the dog & pony shows that are modern "debates".
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:36 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (It7Oy)
Still want more texture, Fritos.
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (ngn8T)
Depends on what you thought going in and isn't nearly as important as Whiskey and Chili and BCochran putting carrots in his chili.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (mgbwf)
PPP has Clinton winning 51-40, and CNN/ORC has Clinton winning with over 60% of the vote, if I heard correctly.
Trump's candidacy is all but over.
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (tWFOf)
sure
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (cPsPa)
I've looked up the recipe, but they're all in conflict as to the proper ingredients.
What to do?
Posted by: RKae at September 26, 2016 11:59 PM (BhW1F)
Two parts rye whiskey (I like Bulliet), 1 part Sweet Vermouth (I prefer Martini and Rossi), and three dashes of bitters. Pour into a shaker with ice, shake, and pour into a rocks glass. Garnish with a black cherry or a slice of orange peel.
Adjust from there.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 27, 2016 12:38 AM (hzV0p)
Will they be the last polls before the vote?
Because I don't even care about that one.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:38 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 27, 2016 12:38 AM (aNSft)
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 12:31 AM (tWFOf)
LOL,so you're saying they were randomly calling people near midnight to poll them.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 27, 2016 12:38 AM (PtOP4)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (mgbwf)
who the fuck puts carrots in chili?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:38 AM (cPsPa)
Sour cream?
Serious question.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:33 AM (mgbwf)
What you put in your chili after the bowl is served, is to your individual taste.
And a good chili will *welcome* your additions, and not be judgmental about 'em.
Food is about celebration, not exclusions.
Down that path, lie "foodies", whole foods stores and vegetarians.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (hVdx9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (ngn8T)
Depends on what you thought going in and isn't nearly as important as Whiskey and Chili and BCochran putting carrots in his chili.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (mgbwf)
Absolutely none of which is as important as...
HAVE YOU DRUNK ENOUGH GALLONS OF VAL-U-RITE!!1!
Posted by: The Thankfully Ethanol-sipping Hat at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (vBeA5)
#NeverHillary @89 has an interesting observation.
It makes me wonder, what DOES persuade people? What does affect their vote in the last 50 days of a race?
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (kP16F)
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Thanks!
If only you knew me! Me mixing a cocktail would be like Mr. Spock spraying you with a squirt-flower.
The wife is gonna faint.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (BhW1F)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:39 AM (It7Oy)
heh
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:41 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:41 AM (voOPb)
Caesar, pretty much. I'm going with the assumption that the most important thing for You Know Who tonight was to *not* be the caricature the Dems/NPR-listeners/high-disinformation voters of all education levels think/want/have been conditioned to expect.
I'm guessing (guessing, mind you) that this objective was achieved.
In the overall context of this campaign - meaning mood/desires of the country, as well as idiosyncracies/strengths/weaknesses of the candidates - tonight did not help the incumbent party, probably. The public polling, when seen in context and esp. with an eye towards weightings, is currently disastrous for one side.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:41 AM (QDnY+)
LOL,so you're saying they were randomly calling people near midnight to poll them.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
They only called California numbers
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:41 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (ngn8T)
Well that's just not true - not to my tongue, at least. Maybe I'm confusing the beans with sauces they're in and other flavors but I love bean-based foods. I have lived on humus, basically, for months at a time ... very happily. I love baked beans. I love refried beans. I love all sorts of beans.
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Jen the original at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (T3HLy)
'Well, if it's gonna be that kind of a (Dinner) Party? Ima stick my dick in the mashed potatoes!'
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (It7Oy)
Unfortunately, that also means that the installation methods I researched on the internet are >50% crap because I have no idea which parts apt did or didn't do. It'll probably take me more time to figure out their status than making them an apt package has saved me.
Tomorrow's little bit of joy will be plugging in the 4 2T disks and configuring as RAID5. Doing RAID5 in the kernel means that you get to be cognizant of a peculiarity of RAID on block devices -- all 4 devices have to be the same size. If you have four devices of 65,536 blocks, and the four have zero, one, two, and six bad blocks, you can RAID5 on 65,530 blocks -- and will have these weird little stubbies of four, five, or six blocks on three of your drives. I'm thinking that, depending on how they look, these'd be good for stuff like print queues. This also means that you couldn't do a RAID rebuild with a replacement disk with 65,529 blocks, so I may be conservative on this.
Once the RAID array gets built, I get to bcache it. Only then do I get to start populating it with virtual machines under Xen.
In case you're wondering why I didn't just LVM for vm's, like everyone is saying to do -- if a RAID5 disk goes foom, you can hot-swap and rebuild it; if an LVM disk goes foom, everything in that volume group is toast. "Oh, but it's only vm's -- you can just respawn another!" -- except that this is intended to be the place you respawn other vm's FROM.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (oGNNA)
Stuff that LIVs are partial to?
Posted by: The Questioning Hat at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (vBeA5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:43 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 12:43 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky
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I remember Al Gore's numbers suffering quite badly... and then he gave Tipper a big, wet kiss on TV... and his numbers jumped.
That, too, was a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:44 AM (BhW1F)
A severed finger!
Nothing like getting a hearty meal AND a jackpot lawsuit!
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (BhW1F)
A very, very small slice of my left index finger eventually found it's way into a customer's bowl of vegetable beef soup, in San Diego, circa 1975.
Hobart meat slicer was the culprit.
Prep cook was, and is, a hazardous duty billet.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 27, 2016 12:44 AM (v5iqM)
I never get tired of watching that
I went looking for that and didn't find it. But The Bounty is on and they're just getting to Tahiti and the boobehs.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:44 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (gyKtp)
so, what is the news, trump win or lose?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:35 AM (cPsPa)
Trump did "okay".
At the beginning he was decent. He challenged Hillary on her deleted emails.But towards the end he started to ramble a lot, and let Hillary get away with a lot of stuff. For instance on a question about cybersecurity, he didn't go after Hillary on her unsecured bathroom server. A little surprising.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (uAvJJ)
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Ah! The Hobart!
I spent much of my youth wrestling with one of those beasts!
Posted by: RKae at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (BhW1F)
he's looking back to what nixon purportedly ran on and thinks just repeat the phrase. s
sheeesh.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair
Beans are flavorless mush, which is why they take flavor so well.
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket...forever censored at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (6qmBU)
Sometimes, when I'm feeling naughty, I build LVM devices on top of RAID 5 arrays.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (WnZAV)
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (It7Oy)
well that's a relief
Posted by: The Chicken at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 12:47 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: Jen the original at September 27, 2016 12:42 AM (T3HLy)
Hopefully they will invite Garrett to the dinner party and serve mashed potatoes
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: the Pace picante cowboys at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:40 AM (oGNNA)
Political pros say 3 I's, in that order: Identification, Image, and Issues. Low-information voters will vote first for the candidate they can identify over the one they have never heard of (not likely in this case), then if they've heard of both of them, they vote on image, and only if that's a push will they vote on issues. Here the task is to win on image. Voters liked Obama's image over McCain's and Romney's. Hillary was trying desperately tonight to make Trump the out-of-touch rich guy. I don't think it worked. Trump was trying to make himself the American in the room. I think it worked, to a certain extent. She won the debate on appearing smarter and more well-prepared, but I don't know that she won a lot of votes in the end, because she seemed to be like the know-it-all kid nobody likes (remember, Image trumps Issues). Trump wasn't big on details, but he understood the big picture and conveyed that image.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (DC/ZC)
I don't remember where that quote is from, but every once in a while I remember it and it makes me laugh.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:49 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: Jean
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No one ever talks about me.
Posted by: Peas at September 27, 2016 12:49 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (WTSFk)
Sure it does.
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (zc3Db)
A non-chili chili recipe I've grown to like is a slow-cooker veggie chili. Partly because it's so easy, partly because it's pretty good, and I make a large batch, and refrigerate/freeze quite a bit, so it goes a long way.
Combo of fresh and canned veggies (sometimes I'll grill the corn before slicing into the mix). I usually hydrate/puree some dried chiles (guajillo or mulato) and use lots of fresh herbs from the yard. Anyway, it's very easy to make and remarkably good, and versatile (goes well with rice, or pasta, or by itself, or the usual additions being discussed above.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (QDnY+)
If you need texture in your chilli then you need to chop your onions
larger and goto a coarser grind on your meat. Beans are just neutral,
flavorless mush.
Still want more texture, Fritos.
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:37 AM (ngn8T)
eh I just skip the onions for chili. just meat, beans, spices
Posted by: The Chicken at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (uAvJJ)
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Rain
Posted by: Methos at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (3Liv/)
And why doesn't chili have beans?
To be honest I don't think I've ever had chili that didn't have beans.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:21 AM (uAvJJ)
You've missed out. Chili colorado sin frijoles is darned tasty.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (EzgxV)
What is really funny is I have Thanksgiving Dinner with a bunch of lesbian couples one out of every two years.
Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2016 12:50 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: Jean
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No one ever talks about me.
Posted by: Peas at September 27, 2016 12:49 AM (9mTYi)
That's not true
You're part of one of my favorite bumper sticker.
Visualize whirled peas
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 27, 2016 12:51 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:51 AM (WTSFk)
Here is "The Light Beyond" by The Light Beyond:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PM2KT1j5o
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 27, 2016 12:52 AM (vBeA5)
didn't go after Hillary on her unsecured bathroom server. A little
surprising.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 12:45 AM (uAvJJ)
Yeah, that was a hanging curve ball he didn't hit out of the park. When she said he had something to hide in the discussion of his taxes, I would have come back with "Please explain to the American people what Bleachbit is." But there are two more debates.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 27, 2016 12:52 AM (DC/ZC)
Posted by: Peas
You've got a whole song about you, "Give Peas a Chance."
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 12:52 AM (WnZAV)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 12:53 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:53 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 12:54 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 12:55 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 27, 2016 12:55 AM (kP16F)
Given that that's about a third of the Horde, I'll give it to them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 12:56 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: James Brown at September 27, 2016 12:57 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 27, 2016 12:57 AM (DW+jj)
312 so did anyone get some feedback from a friend or spouse that is not a political junkie?
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Someone in a previous thread said their LIV MIL said Hillary seemed tired and dull, and I can't remember what else, but I think a better impression of Trump.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:57 AM (oGNNA)
It's been 10 or more years since I could begin to understand what passed for thinking among a huge swathe of the electorate, but I'm cautiously optimistic that class warfare (of the stupid, stale, tax-centric Dem sort) and race-baiting and implicit/explicit hostility to law enforcement - not to mention slimy passive-aggressive allegations of racism - are not going to go over all that well this time.
I could be wrong.
Based solely on logic and reasonable assumptions about the advice he's getting, I'm thinking T-Rump's Prime Directive tonight was Do Not Come Across As a Bully or A**hole. To the point of leaving those jaw-dropping hanging curve balls (cybersecurity, etc.) alone.
Yes it's frustrating to not see this absurd, offensive candidate Clinton get reamed and humiliated in public, but this is what the country is down to. Recall the strategizing - real, and head-shaking but logical - back in 2012 about gently "nudging" 2008 Obama voters to change sides, without "humiliating" or "offending" them. Just nauseating that the electorate and civic culture is SO degraded that this approach was tactically sensible, but there we are.
And I also put beer in the veggie chili. Overall, damn good flavor, though making sure there's not too much heat from the guajillos or mulatos or anchos is always tricky, as the things vary individually in their capsaicin content.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 01:00 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 27, 2016 12:48 AM (DC/ZC)
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Thanks. Interesting.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 01:00 AM (oGNNA)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 27, 2016 12:57 AM (oGNNA)
thanks. that is useful to know. everyone undecided is probably not a political junkie.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:00 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 01:01 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 12:33 AM (EnK/R)
Done except for Twitter - I've deactivated that.
Posted by: Miley's Deplorables at September 27, 2016 01:02 AM (L2UGl)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 01:02 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: chemjeff at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (uAvJJ)
I checked out most of those sites, and did vote for Trump. The results are the sadz for Hillary. They'd better rest her up and change her drug cocktail for the next one.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (+lVUW)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/debate.poll/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (1JnAL)
Posted by: yankeefifth
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Yeah - I spent most of the evenening on the porch with my neighbor's wife.
Her response was "debate? What're you talking about? Damn. Empty. Can you open that other bottle of wine for me?"
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (SmF1m)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (ngn8T)
No Zettai for a slow-cooker veggie chili, some canned tomatoes (fire roasted kind) and 3/4 kinds of beans are just fine. Other veggies and all herbs are fresh.
On an index of Taste and Desirability/Level of Effort, it's near the top of currently known recipes.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 01:04 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 01:04 AM (bWnU+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:04 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:05 AM (SmF1m)
288
In case you're wondering why I didn't just LVM for vm's, like
everyone is saying to do -- if a RAID5 disk goes foom, you can hot-swap
and rebuild it; if an LVM disk goes foom, everything in that volume
group is toast. "Oh, but it's only vm's -- you can just respawn
another!" -- except that this is intended to be the place you respawn
other vm's FROM.
Sometimes, when I'm feeling naughty, I build LVM devices on top of RAID 5 arrays.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 12:46 AM (WnZAV)
I was thinking of doing that -- rendering my four 2T drives into, say, 3T of vm prototypes, 3T of LVM for living vms, and 2T of RAID5 overhead....but I'm a dumbassed accountant and that sounded too complicated for what I'd accomplish. Please to inform me if I'm wrong.
It might also be noted that I'm building Looking Glass 2 before Looking Glass 1 because LG1 had a drive failure that I haven't dealt with yet.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:05 AM (EzgxV)
Chi - "I spent most of the evenening on the porch with my neighbor's wife."
I'm looking for a "phrasing" thing here, but can't put my finger on it.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 01:05 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 01:06 AM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (ngn8T)
you only heresy is suggesting there is something heretical about bacon or sausage.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:06 AM (cPsPa)
SAYS she has details but what are they? She the worst of the smarty
pants type.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 12:54 AM (bWnU+)
Read the fact-checkers on her campaign website.
Duh.
Posted by: Methos at September 27, 2016 01:06 AM (3Liv/)
Her response was "debate? What're you talking about? Damn. Empty. Can you open that other bottle of wine for me?"
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:03 AM (SmF1m)
hopefully he is not going to be upset when he reads this.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:08 AM (cPsPa)
As noted above, nothing involving bacon can be heretical.
If I've got bacon fat in the frig, I use that to start even a veggie chili. Saute the onions and celery in it before everything else gets added in.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2016 01:09 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: rhomboid
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There really isn't a joke there.
The phrase "taking candy from a baby" comes to mind. Some guys truly are fucking idiots...
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:10 AM (SmF1m)
Don't know the Latin, but it's me wrasslin' with the Bourbon, and the Bourbon has won two out of three falls.
I will hence retire pillow-ward, wherein promises rest, safety, comfort, peace and sleep.
But I'd be deeply appreciative if you all would fight like a bunch of crack addled combat roosters in my absence, as it'd warm the sole remaining cockle of my hateful conservative heart.
Sweet dreams!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 27, 2016 01:11 AM (v5iqM)
clinton "racism"
yeah, there's a difference between the two. guess i can't ask for more than that.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 27, 2016 01:11 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:12 AM (cPsPa)
If you know what you're building it for and don't expect to change it, then you're good. I will have to ask my VMWare gurus what they're doing, though, as I hadn't thought to before now. (I'm not allowed to play with VMWare, I might learn marketable skills.)
I use LVM when I've got the hardware but the storage requirements aren't all that well defined. Which in the current workplace is every damned project. Makes it easy to just drop everything into a storage pool and divvy it up later, then re-divvy it up five more times while the project tries to pull their heads out of their asses.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:12 AM (WnZAV)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:13 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 27, 2016 12:54 AM (bWnU+)
It seems like the "details" thing is kind of like the "temperament" thing. Empty complaints when they can't come up with a decent legitimate criticism. I remember seeing some people looking for "more detail" on some speech that was already borderline too long. I could only think "Just HOW LONG do you want to sit and listen to a speech!?!"
As it is, any chief executive is supposed to do the vision, direction, and leadership, NOT all the gory details. That's called "micromanaging".
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 01:14 AM (EnK/R)
Never. When leftists see a problem, they are never able to imagine a solution other than government coercion. They never take into account that whatever evil human impulses caused those problems in the first place will be put on steroids when they co-opt said government solution. They cannot accept the fact that *gasp* some problems may be unsolvable, and we need to go with the least bad option.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 27, 2016 01:15 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:15 AM (SmF1m)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 01:16 AM (ngn8T)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
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Try tossing a virgin into the volcano.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 01:17 AM (9mTYi)
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Sure.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2016 01:17 AM (NUqwG)
Send a bag of this stuff? http://preview.tinyurl.com/z3xgpfu
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:17 AM (WnZAV)
able to imagine a solution other than government coercion. They never
take into account that whatever evil human impulses caused those
problems in the first place will be put on steroids when they co-opt
said government solution. They cannot accept the fact that *gasp* some
problems may be unsolvable, and we need to go with the least bad option.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 27, 2016 01:15 AM (Pby3z)
The difference between the Democrat mind and a mind like ours is that their amygdalas, the part of the brain that senses threats, are broken. Because they don't sense threats, they simply can never see the downside, exploits, loopholes, or fatal flaws in any idea they have. They're basically stuck on: Everything is wonderful, it'll be the best thing ever, if you just try it!
Meanwhile we see a thousand ways that it's doomed to fail, and dig in our heels and go "Nope!". So this means we're bad and wrong and evil, naturally. Yeah, we're the Party of No. When everything the other side wants is half-baked insanity, you need to say no, and you need to say it a lot.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:19 AM (J+mig)
You come up with another recipe even close to the angry drunken mussels, let us know.
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 01:19 AM (SmF1m)
I'm a non-drinker. (Like a hard-ass Carrie Nation type!) But my wife likes her drinks.
She just got a new, awful - FUCKING AWFUL! - commute, and I want to surprise her by making the best Manhattan ever when she comes home!
I've looked up the recipe, but they're all in conflict as to the proper ingredients.
Go REALLY REALLY Light on the bitters(practically non-existent) no matter what the recipe says and she will think it's great.
Don't forget the maraschino cherries!
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:19 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 01:17 AM (9mTYi)
Where would you even find one of those these days?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:20 AM (J+mig)
If he falls 5-6 pts behind, this race is over
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 01:19 AM (tWFOf)
don't you have a bridge to get back under?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:20 AM (cPsPa)
Also go light on the vermouth. 1/3 is insane. She'll want mildly flavored rye that's ice cold.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 01:21 AM (mgbwf)
Also go light on the vermouth. 1/3 is insane. She'll want mildly flavored rye that's ice cold.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 01:21 AM (mgbwf)
give the poor guy a recipe
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:23 AM (cPsPa)
Yep, winning the 1st debate is an absolute game-changer.
Posted by: President Romney at September 27, 2016 01:24 AM (cC/ZB)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 01:25 AM (hVdx9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:20 AM (cPsPa)
Hector is AWOL from the glory hole again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2016 01:26 AM (o9m/V)
Pour a bunch of Rye into a shaker full of ice.
Add a splash of sweet vermouth. (Or just say the word Vermouth in the general direction of the shaker).
Add no more than 3 drops of Agnostura Bitters.
Shake and pour into a Martini glass.
Add one Maraschino cherry.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 01:26 AM (mgbwf)
Gore won an insta-poll but then the tape of his sighing came out and the narrative completely changed.
Trump was eviscerated and i don't see any post debate spin rescuing him.
If he falls 5-6 pts behind, this race is over
Posted by: landslide at September 27, 2016 01:19 AM (tWFOf)
What if the MFM plays the part where Hillary is basically calling Trump "crazy", because THEY enjoy it, while normal people just see her as a snooty, disrespectful asshole?
The silver lining in some of the disappointment we're feeling is that Trump - UNLIKE HILLARY - took the high road. It was Hillary and her sidekick who went into the gutter - when the public wants to hear about REAL ISSUES instead.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 01:26 AM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 01:25 AM (hVdx9)
well, that was partly because romney danced around the stage and spanked obama good. had romney not lost his groove in the subsequent debates he may well have won.
luntz's gaggle of duntzs is useless.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:28 AM (cPsPa)
----------------
Come election day you can stay home and cry into your pillow. I will be down at the voting booth voting for Trump.
Posted by: Catwrangler at September 27, 2016 01:29 AM (vUuJ6)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2016 01:26 AM (o9m/V)
were it not too late to be drinking I would have coughed scotch all over the keyboard. totally unanticipated.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:29 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2016 01:32 AM (+q52R)
Also go light on the vermouth. 1/3 is insane. She'll want mildly flavored rye that's ice cold.
Agree. Meant to add that. Too much Vermouth is gross.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:33 AM (0WFtY)
Until it jumps up and bites you in the ass because you don't understand how it works. Then it's all oh why did that happen I didn't expect that why didn't somebody tell me.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 27, 2016 01:33 AM (FtrY1)
I purposely went radio silent since 5pm -- no electronic devices.
So, if it's over, what I want is HONEST, CONCISE summations of what actually happened.
Not spin -- sincere observation.
Anything "big" happen? Or was it all sorta "as expected"?
Wise me up some knowledge! I literally have not perceived Thing One about it.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 01:33 AM (jBuUi)
Ain't no such thing. It all depends on what you took into it in the first place.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 01:35 AM (mgbwf)
Both of them were cringeworthy but Trump won first half, Hillary 2nd half mainly from some Trump rambling and missed hit
Lester Holt was worse than Candy Crowley
I don't think debates matter all that much
Ask President Kerry and Romney
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:36 AM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: Catwrangler at September 27, 2016 01:36 AM (vUuJ6)
>>>Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2016 01:17 AM (9mTYi)
Where would you even find one of those these days?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:20 AM (J+mig)
You can find one on sale in Japan, these days.
Posted by: TheDeplorableOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:37 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:37 AM (WnZAV)
I purposely went radio silent since 5pm -- no electronic devices.
So, if it's over, what I want is HONEST, CONCISE summations of what actually happened.
Not spin -- sincere observation.
Anything "big" happen? Or was it all sorta "as expected"?
Wise me up some knowledge! I literally have not perceived Thing One about it.
I would compare it to one of his better Primary debates. He got some good shots(and sound bites) in the beginning and then was left fighting everybody(In this case Holt& Clinton) in between fading a bit.
Most Important no major gaffes.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:38 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
****
Guess he was too full to go on.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 01:40 AM (hVdx9)
Fwiw, my wife doesn't like trump but thought he won
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:40 AM (Jzg4b)
I was thinking of doing that -- rendering my four 2T drives into,
say, 3T of vm prototypes, 3T of LVM for living vms, and 2T of RAID5
overhead....but I'm a dumbassed accountant and that sounded too
complicated for what I'd accomplish. Please to inform me if I'm wrong.
If you know what you're building it for and don't expect to change
it, then you're good. I will have to ask my VMWare gurus what they're
doing, though, as I hadn't thought to before now. (I'm not allowed to
play with VMWare, I might learn marketable skills.)
I use LVM when I've got the hardware but the storage requirements
aren't all that well defined. Which in the current workplace is every
damned project. Makes it easy to just drop everything into a storage
pool and divvy it up later, then re-divvy it up five more times while
the project tries to pull their heads out of their asses.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:12 AM (WnZAV)
The Looking Glass computers are meant for a weird forensic purpose -- they each have five gigabit ethernets -- "internet", C, M, Y, and K. They each have an SSD and four 2T drives as a RAID5 array. And they're meant to both store prototypes for and host virtual machines, to be used to pick apart potentially compromised disks from all the computers that were "live" when I had keylogging malware dropped on me.
Quite a bit of this is due to Western Digital forcing all their NAS to SAMBA (because their NFS implementation wasn't secure). You can buy a Dell T5500 w/dual Xeons, 12G of RAM, and four enterprise multi-T drives for less than you can buy a WD NAS of similar capacity.....and the WD doesn't do 3-level wrx. Only problem is that it doubles as a space heater -- but I replaced my kitchen can lights with LEDs, so it might be a wash.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:43 AM (EzgxV)
Classic Trump. He was very upset that nobody has called Hannity as they used to discuss his opposition to the war. It was funny hearing him repeatedly say "I tell them to call Hannity" "nobody calls Hannity".
On FOX right now Pad Cadell is currently on talking about how he used to talk to Trump and that he was opposed at the time. Dines he D'Souza is on now saying he won on points and not appearing crazy.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:44 AM (0WFtY)
So, if it's over, what I want is HONEST, CONCISE summations of what actually happened.
-------------------------------------------
You missed out on numerous opportunities to cringe.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2016 01:44 AM (NUqwG)
Both of them were cringeworthy but Trump won first half, Hillary 2nd half mainly from some Trump rambling and missed hit
Lester Holt was worse than Candy Crowley
I don't think debates matter all that much
Ask President Kerry and Romney
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:36 AM (Jzg4b)
I pretty much agree with that.
Nothing "big" happened as far as I could tell.
Someone said in one of the earlier threads that Trump was stronger in the beginning, and that might be significant. Only political junkies watched the whole thing, while the LIVs probably tuned out after a while.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 01:45 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
no major gaffes.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi
Ah, OK, that's all I need to know.
Nothing really major happened.
Hillary (since no one's mentioned it) did not pass out on stage.
Trump (since no one's mentioned it) did not say "taco bowl" or "Sieg Heil!"
Both of 'em did their expected thing, open to interpretation by each side.
In other words, a non-game-changer. Good.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 01:45 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 27, 2016 01:46 AM (FtrY1)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at September 27, 2016 01:40 AM (hVdx9)
also unanticipated.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:46 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 01:45 AM (jBuUi)
From what little I listened, Trump talked about himself too much, and Hillary was just her usual, evil, unlikeable hag self.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:46 AM (J+mig)
The Shrill One went low, and Trump mostly didn't. Holt was a dolt, and definitely in the Clinton column.
Not a game changer for either side.
Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 27, 2016 01:47 AM (gyKtp)
Settled in at work now, where I can actually post. How would one go
about making the proper sacrifices to the hamsters to undo a ban that
probably hit me as collateral damage from something else?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:13 AM (J+mig)
Send an email to the designated place. Show your IP and previous hash. Explain how you found out, but you don't believe it to be you. Good luck!
BTW, I've been in a number of hotels where AoSHQ was banned by IP. You can try to VPN out from under that, but a bunch of VPNs are banned, as well (probably all of the free ones and half of the purchased ones -- you can probably VPN back to your home systems and get around the hotel's banning, but that takes some investment).
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:47 AM (EzgxV)
I also think just having him up there on the stage legitimizes him further
Still, a trump that had done some homework would have put her away for good
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:48 AM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 01:45 AM (jBuUi)
Someone said, above, that her left eye was trying to make a break for it, again. I didn't watch the debate so I don't know but I expect the video clips to show up tomorrow.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:48 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:49 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Naes at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (Ypc8j)
Did the same with my kitchen lights, because I hated the track lights the builder put in.
Your setup sounds like massive overkill, which is good. You may be able to make a second or third career out of this by doing computer security consulting once you've got things up and running. You've already got a better handle on things than our "security" team at the workplace.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (WnZAV)
I can t believe how awful Hillary comes off even when she gets in a good line though
So incredibly smug and condescending
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 01:53 AM (EnGQE)
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:47 AM (EzgxV)
We have a designated place?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:49 AM (J+mig)
A designated place to send emails (besides Peruvia) -- it's at the bottom of the RH sidebar, in code.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:53 AM (EzgxV)
I also think just having him up there on the stage legitimizes him further
Still, a trump that had done some homework would have put her away for good
Posted by: Ghetto at September 27, 2016 01:48 AM (Jzg4b)
Agree except for the last part. If he put her away tonight it might make the next debate expectations to high. Remember Romney did great at the first debate.
After he and his team kept talking about how he could have said something horrible to hurt her at the end but he didn't want to because Chelsea was there. I think he's telegraphing a new line of attack he will probably bring up at his big rally tomorrow night, because Trump always has big narrative changing rallies the day after a debate.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:54 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:53 AM (EzgxV)
Who the hell ever goes down there?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:54 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Naes at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (Ypc8j)
well you run with the candidate you have. trying to cram trump full of facts and strategies would have been a disaster. having trump be the best trump he can be is the only strategy.
not so concerned with opportunities he missed, more concerned with disasters he avoided.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 01:55 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 01:55 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:54 AM (0WFtY)
I REALLY don't like that excuse. It's stupid and wrong and stupid. And wrong.
Frankly, I hate the fact that the families are so involved in everything, these days. It's kind of disgusting.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:58 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 01:58 AM (XGrlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 01:53 AM (EnGQE)
Good choice. I viewed it like the Primary debates and got bored around the same time Trump started his normal mid-debate slump where he turns down the energy. Typing that I just noticed the connection.
Plenty of good sound bites, I think he does that on purpose. Unless it's a gaffe he normally sounds better in the clips then when you watch the actual debate.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 01:59 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: Naes at September 27, 2016 01:59 AM (Ypc8j)
LOL. She might hit the ground if her handlers are not there to hold her up, but running...nope.
I know some people were hoping for some major
medical problems for her; I knew they wouldn't happen.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 02:02 AM (EnGQE)
Frankly, I hate the fact that the families are so involved in everything, these days. It's kind of disgusting.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:58 AM (zc3Db)
I'm hoping its part of a bigger plan since everybody in his campaign kept bringing it up.
I really wish they would start attacking Chelsea whose involved in the criminal CGI.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 02:02 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
That would actually explain a lot, actually. There's the perpetual puzzle that the left embodies, "How can such smart people (many being smart in certain areas) be so f*cking blind?"
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at September 27, 2016 02:02 AM (dtWKK)
I have an iPhone that basically has no screen. It was dropped from a moving car, screen shattered into a quadrillion pieces and mostly fell off. I found it in the gutter.
I was able to extract the SIM card, put it into a functioning iPhone, and thereby find out what the broken iPhone's phone number USED to be. I called it, and someone in Virginia answered and said that months ago they had indeed dropped and lost an iPhone, but in the interim they moved back east and got a newer iPhone anyway and no longer cared about this one so I could have it. Click. Fine.
So now I have this screenless iPhone. Eventually, I suppose, I'll sell it for parts or give it away or whatever, but out of curiosity I began to wonder: Is there any way to "see" what's happening on the iPhone if I were to connect it to some other electronic device?
Oh, I forgot to mention:
Despite not having a screen, it still seems to "work"! Because I was able to recharge it, then press the "on" button, and the phone occasionally vibrated as if the iOS was operating "inside" and was sending error messages or notifications or whatever, and the system was set to "vibrate." But without a screen I can't see what it's trying to tell me.
I know that with computers a person can (or used to be able to) connect one computer to another in "slave mode" so that you can see the slave computer's "screen" as a window within the OS of the "master" computer.
Is a similar thing possible with iPhones? If I plugged the screenless iPhone into another intact iPhone, or into a desktop computer, is there some way I could "see" what's on the "screen" of the broken iPhone?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 02:03 AM (jBuUi)
395
Only problem is that it doubles as a space heater -- but I replaced my kitchen can lights with LEDs, so it might be a wash.
Did the same with my kitchen lights, because I hated the track lights the builder put in.
Your setup sounds like massive overkill, which is good. You may be
able to make a second or third career out of this by doing computer
security consulting once you've got things up and running. You've
already got a better handle on things than our "security" team at the
workplace.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (WnZAV)
Why, thank you!!! *curtseys*
I've managed to make more than the average CPA/accountant/auditor/consultant over the last quarter century by finding weird corners of the biz and becoming more technical than the average bear. As malware/penetration [extraction] threats get hotter and hotter, I'm thinking cybersecurity might actually be the key to my next career.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 02:03 AM (EzgxV)
it's at the bottom of the RH sidebar, in code.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 01:53 AM (EzgxV)
Who the hell ever goes down there?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 01:54 AM (zc3Db)
Language!
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 02:02 AM (0WFtY)
Hear, hear.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (zc3Db)
There's the perpetual puzzle that the left embodies, "How can such smart
people (many being smart in certain areas) be so f*cking blind?"
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at September 27, 2016 02:02 AM (dtWKK)
It's actually the exact inversion of a recent study from a year or three ago. The authors decided that conservative politics were due to people having overactive amygdalas and seeing threats in everything. The reverse conclusion is even more profound. Leftist politics exist because their people simply can't see threats that actually do exist.
Another pertinent study had the amygdala being disabled in mice. They'd go sauntering into a room full of cat pee, which makes normal mice flee in terror. Combine the two... and you understand the Left. All of the warning signs are there, but because of their lower-than-average function, they simply can't see it, or don't view it as a real problem.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (J+mig)
>> himself too much, and Hillary was just her usual,
>> evil, unlikeable hag self.
It's far too easy to bait Trump into long-winded responses.
Then the press gets to sit there like a motorcycle cop watching his word salad go by at 20 over the limit, then they'll pull a phrase over and throw the book at it.
He should have a list of one-line responses to common 'noise' questions like the birther thing, and above all he should stick to them.
The other problem Trump has in a format like this is that he seems almost allergic to details.
That load of bullshit about economic growth Holt led with at the beginning of the event could easily have been countered (lowest rate of new business creation in thirty years, more businesses folding than opening, lowest rate of IPOs since the '80s, etc.) by a candidate with a handle on a few details.
Holt served up a slow softball pitch over the middle of the plate on the cybersecurity thing, and Trump didn't even take a swing. This is the kind of thing where a Ted Cruz would have rattled off a list of all the Federal laws and regulations Hillary and her crew violated.
Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (TppKb)
Posted by: Naes at September 27, 2016 01:51 AM (Ypc8j)
They certainly need to refuse to use MFM moderators.
There are any number of talk radio hosts who would make good moderators. I'm not even a fan of Hugh Hewitt or Bill Bennett, but they would be infinitely superior to the likes of Lester Holt or Candy Crowley. And Dennis Prager would be awesome.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (sdi6R)
The video at the end of the debate clearly catches a man with Gray hair And glasses dubbed "the cleaner" swooping in on Hillary's Podium and grabs a bunch of papers and stuffs the papers and other shit into a folder. Story with video at the Tree House
These people have no shame.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 02:07 AM (XGrlW)
Just about everything about the Left is explainable through their lack of normal fear, coupled with their fundamental ideological error - the idea that there is no objective truth where human causes and events are concerned.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 02:07 AM (J+mig)
I've managed to make more than the average CPA/accountant/auditor/consultant over the last quarter century by finding weird corners of the biz and becoming more technical than the average bear. As malware/penetration [extraction] threats get hotter and hotter, I'm thinking cybersecurity might actually be the key to my next career.
I think you're right. So does my brother. We're both going for CISSP certs right now. My current job feels as though it's about to be commoditized anyway. Might as well try to stay ahead of the curve.
And on that happy thought, g'night everyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 02:08 AM (WnZAV)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (sdi6R)
well the presidential debate commission needs to be done away with. not sure who put them in charge but there is nothing stopping us from giving them the heave ho. have the candidates decide on moderators. we could not do worse than we have.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 02:08 AM (cPsPa)
OK, tech geeks, can anyone answer me this?
I have an iPhone that basically has no screen. It was dropped from a
moving car, screen shattered into a quadrillion pieces and mostly fell
off. I found it in the gutter.
I was able to extract the SIM card, put it into a functioning
iPhone, and thereby find out what the broken iPhone's phone number USED
to be. I called it, and someone in Virginia answered and said that
months ago they had indeed dropped and lost an iPhone, but in the
interim they moved back east and got a newer iPhone anyway and no longer
cared about this one so I could have it. Click. Fine.
So now I have this screenless iPhone. Eventually, I suppose, I'll
sell it for parts or give it away or whatever, but out of curiosity I
began to wonder: Is there any way to "see" what's happening on the
iPhone if I were to connect it to some other electronic device?
Oh, I forgot to mention:
Despite not having a screen, it still seems to "work"! Because I was
able to recharge it, then press the "on" button, and the phone
occasionally vibrated as if the iOS was operating "inside" and was
sending error messages or notifications or whatever, and the system was
set to "vibrate." But without a screen I can't see what it's trying to
tell me.
I know that with computers a person can (or used to be able to)
connect one computer to another in "slave mode" so that you can see the
slave computer's "screen" as a window within the OS of the "master"
computer.
Is a similar thing possible with iPhones? If I plugged the
screenless iPhone into another intact iPhone, or into a desktop
computer, is there some way I could "see" what's on the "screen" of the
broken iPhone?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 02:03 AM (jBuUi)
Your best bet is to just rip the data (and/or apps) out of the thing and consign it to oblivion.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 02:09 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: rickl
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I haven't listened to talk radio in almost a decade, but I just got a boner thinking of Michael Savage as a moderator.
Ratings would break the damn meter
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:11 AM (7R92G)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:12 AM (7R92G)
done away with. not sure who put them in charge but there is nothing
stopping us from giving them the heave ho. have the candidates decide
on moderators. we could not do worse than we have.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 02:08 AM (cPsPa)
I think we need to go to an unmoderated style. Rock paper scissors to see who goes first. (The opposite one goes last, and both positions have advantages). Each candidate gets ten minute blocks. First candidate gets to lead off. Second candidate rebuts and adds ideas. First candidate rebuts and adds more. Second candidate goes again.
Each 10 minute speaking bloc is to be broken up by the sound of a 10 second peal from a foghorn. Loud enough to drown them out. After the foghorn, the candidate may not speak again until it is their turn.
The debate will progress in such a manner until allotted time is used up. No pre-arranged questions, no questioners, just the two candidates, actually setting the agenda themselves and debating what issues they bring up.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 02:13 AM (J+mig)
Ratings would break the damn meter
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:11 AM (7R92G)
Nah, Mark Levin.
"Get off the podium, you big dope!"
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 27, 2016 02:14 AM (sdi6R)
Each 10 minute speaking bloc is to be broken up by the sound of a 10 second peal from a foghorn. Loud enough to drown them out. After the foghorn, the candidate may not speak again until it is their turn.
The debate will progress in such a manner until allotted time is used up. No pre-arranged questions, no questioners, just the two candidates, actually setting the agenda themselves and debating what issues they bring up.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 02:13 AM (J+mig)
john bolton was suggesting something earlier using chess clocks as time keepers. works for me.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 02:16 AM (cPsPa)
Why, thank you!!! *curtseys*
I've managed to make more than the average
CPA/accountant/auditor/consultant over the last quarter century by
finding weird corners of the biz and becoming more technical than the
average bear. As malware/penetration [extraction] threats get hotter and
hotter, I'm thinking cybersecurity might actually be the key to my next
career.
I think you're right. So does my brother. We're both going for
CISSP certs right now. My current job feels as though it's about to be
commoditized anyway. Might as well try to stay ahead of the curve.
And on that happy thought, g'night everyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 27, 2016 02:08 AM (WnZAV)
I don't think certification is the answer. Contact me offline in daylight to discuss.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 02:16 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu
You mean by locating and then removing the "memory chip" or whatever doohickey is in the phone that contained all the previous user's data? And then putting the chip into a "card reader" so I can see what's on it?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 02:17 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2016 02:17 AM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 27, 2016 02:19 AM (FYrz1)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:20 AM (7R92G)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:21 AM (7R92G)
It's far too easy to bait Trump into long-winded responses.
Holt served up a slow softball pitch over the middle of the plate on the cybersecurity thing, and Trump didn't even take a swing. This is the kind of thing where a Ted Cruz would have rattled off a list of all the Federal laws and regulations Hillary and her crew violated.
Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2016 02:05 AM (TppKb)
This debate was not meant to sway people on this forum or the Daily Kos on the left. Ted Cruz's #'ered lists of Conservative porn would have been forgotten as soon as he said them like the majority of Hillary's answers by the average voter.
Obama was not better at talking policy the Hillary but he was more likeable. GWB was not better at policy and talking points then Kerry but he was more likeable. Today FOX business had someone involved w/GWB on who talked about how they held their breaths counting down the minutes until the debates ended knowing how badly Bush could mess up.
Trump talks at the people and understands the importance of sound bites. Hillaries answers might technically win her the debates but not the election. I don't think Trump ever technically won a Primary debate.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 02:23 AM (0WFtY)
I heard CNN and PPP gave t to Hillary by small margins, but that's it.
Probably a lot more but I am too lazy to check.
Posted by: Dogstar at September 27, 2016 02:25 AM (ePqDq)
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 01:33 AM (jBuUi)
It kinda sucked! Holt went full-partisan, so all the questions mostly ignored anything normal people care about - it was a trip into the Leftist bubble. Holt was even worse than Candy Crowley, and didn't even try to hide that it was him and Hillary vs. Trump.
Trump was mostly his usual self, made plenty of good points, some useless points, kind of rambled. Hillary was more polished, but was rude and disrespectful and (with Holt) went into the gutter. Basically calling Trump "crazy", mysogenist, and racist, etc. Trump got bogged down responding, but didn't let Holt push him around the way Romney did with Crowley.
But Trump got across the point that Hillary's experience is "bad experience", while he's a capable businessman, and he - perhaps most importantly - took the high road (no name-calling and stuff). Hillary may have gotten herself in some trouble being dismissive about the devastation caused by NAFTA, and she made the black neighborhoods in the US sound like vacation spots (both were very weird and out of touch).
I have to wonder whether normal people might be kind of resentful with Holt and Hillary babbling about stuff they don't care about, while dissing Trump, who was speaking to their issues. We'll see.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 02:25 AM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 02:27 AM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Hill RC at September 27, 2016 02:27 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 02:27 AM (bMG0w)
Ratings would break the damn meter
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:11 AM (7R92G)
I heard him reading one of Trumps ramblings and I swear he made him sound like Churchill.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 02:30 AM (0WFtY)
Your best bet is to just rip the data (and/or apps) out of the thing and consign it to oblivion.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu
You mean by locating and then removing the "memory chip" or whatever
doohickey is in the phone that contained all the previous user's data?
And then putting the chip into a "card reader" so I can see what's on
it?
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 02:17 AM (jBuUi)
With just about everything -- there is memory in the device, memory of the device, memory attached to the device, and bulk memory. In the example of the machine I'm building, there would be RAM, an SSD, a DVD reader + assorted snippets, and a RAID5 array. You probably can't salvage what's in RAM without excessive effort, but you may be able to extract valuable information from each other level reasonably.
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 02:30 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 27, 2016 02:32 AM (FYrz1)
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 02:34 AM (bMG0w)
Some brand new KANSAS kickassery: "The Voyage of Eight Eighteen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syM1RFeoL34
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 27, 2016 02:34 AM (WlGX+)
Listening to it again, Hillary sounds really kind of bitchy and nasty, even when she's asking people to go out and vote.
Gingrich pointed out that Hillary didn't present any sort of grand vision for America - just the same old dumpster-diving crap that over $100M in attack ads didn't have any effect on. He's admittedly a Trump cheerleader, but he had a point in calling it a big win.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 02:36 AM (EnK/R)
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2016 02:34 AM (bMG0w)
LOL! I've had that thought about her before, myself. Maybe I put it as "the ex-mother-in-law you wish you never had".
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 02:38 AM (EnK/R)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 27, 2016 02:39 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 02:39 AM (EnGQE)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 12:14 AM (ngn8T)
Oh yeah? Does so! Has carrots and canned tomatoes, too...
Posted by: Three Bean and Beef Chili at September 27, 2016 02:42 AM (uyrlv)
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 02:23 AM (0WFtY)
Bush was an awful candidate. He took what should have been a 12 point blowout and turned it into a squeaker. He sucked. The only thing that saved Bush were the Swift Boat Vets and Bush's determination not to run away from Iraq. That was it. Otherwise, Bush would have been toast.
And after the election, having been given a clear mandate to do whatever was necessary to quell Iraq Bush continued to pussyfoot around and waste time, money and blood for no good reason ... which is part of why people began to hate his guts. That, and his (and the GOP's) embracing of giving aid and comfort to invading illegals - and trying to sneak it all past us in the most underhanded way ever ... until Barky came along and showed even more underhanded and corrupt legislative practices - is pretty much what did in the GOP, starting in 2006.
But, in sum, Bush was an awful and pathetic candidate in 2004. If the Swift Boat Vets hadn't shown up I doubt he would have won, even with his position on Iraq that most of the country clearly agreed with - as far as not surrendering there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 02:43 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 27, 2016 02:39 AM (VdICR)
LOL
[But really he reminds me more of Patton and Truman]
Posted by: Optimizer at September 27, 2016 02:44 AM (EnK/R)
It's somebody else's phone. What do you want to go through their data for?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 02:46 AM (zc3Db)
3 years later, she is the only one in the family that still calls and visits me.
I saw her last week, in fact. She stopped by for no other reason than to chat & catch up. To think that when we first mef, she hated me (rightly so - I was a douchebag).
Now, she comes to me to vent about her loser adult children and how much she misses the kids.
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 02:50 AM (7R92G)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 27, 2016 02:51 AM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 27, 2016 02:56 AM (NUPBw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke,
*waves at Fen*
I loved my mother in law and father in law ever after I split up with their daughter. They still loved me back. I miss them both.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 02:59 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2016 03:01 AM (mgbwf)
Hillarry with a earpiece. It is smaller and flesh toned and concealed pretty well Have a look and decide for yourselves.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sundbry/status/780658003187863552/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 27, 2016 03:01 AM (XGrlW)
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 27, 2016 03:02 AM (NUPBw)
Posted by: Chelsea Manning at September 27, 2016 03:03 AM (xACMO)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 02:43 AM (zc3Db)
I agree Bush was a horrible Candidate but he won. The Swift Boaters were a component but he also won every "who do you want a beer with poll" just like Obama. I think likability does count. If it does Trump is definitely more likeable then Hillary.
OT- I'm disgusted w/Bush after watching his love fest w/the Obamas this weekend. Can't endorse Trump because he spoke bad about his brother and he's icky. But Obama who commits impeachable offenses and pulls out Iraq causing major cities our soldiers died for to fall into ISIS hands and blames him for the entire financial crisis and American hating Michelle are totally amazing. I feel better knowing I voted for Cheney.
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 03:05 AM (0WFtY)
Posted by: AdorableDeplorableChristi at September 27, 2016 03:05 AM (0WFtY)
Yep. I was a Cheney voter, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 27, 2016 03:09 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 27, 2016 03:14 AM (NUPBw)
Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 03:19 AM (JfUI4)
Remember that book? "The 10 Prayers..." ?
Well, this evening, I finally had the perfect opportunity to offer it to a friend that will appreciate it. I deliver it tomorrow morning.
Two chapters in particular seem like they were written just for her.
So, thank you again, and I finally got to "pay it forward."
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 03:21 AM (7R92G)
Posted by: Fiftytwo at September 27, 2016 03:23 AM (aNSft)
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 03:24 AM (7R92G)
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 03:27 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: deplorable cthulhu at September 27, 2016 03:35 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 03:43 AM (JfUI4)
I kinda expected more Irish Riverdance music - coming from you.
A little too upbeat for me right now, but I'll put it on tomorrow & check it out again on ELEVEN.
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 03:45 AM (7R92G)
Night all. Figured the Horde would need some good news.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2016 04:02 AM (1+0rk)
I took a bike ride to blow off some steam, and came across a real gem that I figured you would appreciate...
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 04:03 AM (7R92G)
http://tinypic.com/r/2d6jjww/9
Sadly, not for sale - "No sir. Not at any price."
Young (ish) Navy gut - I assume - says he's been building it for a little over two years.
Pics don't do it justice. I very nice example. I miss my old 240 ...
Posted by: Chi at September 27, 2016 04:15 AM (7R92G)
The 2004 election was a wierd one. I was actually in Milan on business. When I woke up and turned on the news and was surprised Ohio was the pivotal state that won it for Bush. I got a few emails from people who knew me.
What caused me to drop my Republican Affiliation was the fact the GOP had Congress and the presidency and did nothing to roll backleftist gains and in fact expanded some of the programs.
Posted by: Buckeye Aboad at September 27, 2016 04:52 AM (j8rhH)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:59 AM (mpXpK)
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:59 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2dfZDQv
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:59 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2cGX2hx
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 04:59 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/J4ObVB
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)
http://fxn.ws/2dn6hG0
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2cH5fCs
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:01 AM (mpXpK)
http://washex.am/2d5mXjp
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:01 AM (mpXpK)
After New York Attack, Congress Wants TSA to Secure Amtrak, Buses
Just what we need, extend the incompetent asshole TSA to everything. But who is this "congress" Bloomberg speaks of? It consists of 2 named Democrats and 2 named RINOs in the Senate. RINOs are Thune of S.D. (ACU 75) and Fischer of NE (92 but lifetime 87). Remember that come primary time.
http://bloom.bg/2cyAiSg
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:01 AM (mpXpK)
The black thug who had been charged with shooting and killing the black "protestor" at the Charlotte riots has confessed. Puts lie to the reports that he was shot by the cops.
http://bit.ly/2d5pFp7
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2dfF3w0
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:02 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2dvwBu6
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2cZby3W
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:02 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2dclUN
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:03 AM (mpXpK)
http://bit.ly/2d5Mwzl
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:03 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:03 AM (mpXpK)
the fact the GOP had Congress and the presidency and did nothing to
roll backleftist gains and in fact expanded some of the programs.
Posted by: Buckeye Aboad at September 27, 2016 04:52 AM (j8rhH)
About the same here. Also the fact that they were rolling over to enable the Obama agenda at every turn, all the while backstabbing anyone who actually tried to act like an opposition party. I'm sick of them, and we can't get a replacement party fast enough.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 05:05 AM (J+mig)
No matter, more time for the links since it is likely to get stomped at 7 anyway.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:06 AM (mpXpK)
Agreed on the Article V convention. I think an amendment that would help in this regard is that since the judiciary has been so infested by politics to the point where their historical neutrality has long since become more myth than fact, that all Federal judges ought to stand for election like members of the other two branches. At the very least, a retention vote like Florida has, which allows judges to be dismissed if the majority of voters vote to do so.
It's not a perfect solution, but there's no other way to get the Lefties off the bench, and it'd give the public some quality control.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 05:10 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Catwrangler at September 27, 2016 05:13 AM (vUuJ6)
way to get the Lefties off the bench, and it'd give the public some
quality control.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 05:10 AM (J+mig)
My "solution" is to totally remove the appointment of judges from Washington and let each State appoint 1 in any manner they see fit. And also make them subject to recall. A State would be able to remove a judge from their State by a simple majority vote, an out of State judge may be removed by a popular vote of the whole country of 60%.
This would give more power back to the States and remove it from the corrupt congress and presidents like the Choom. And at the same time make them accountable.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:15 AM (mpXpK)
Yeah, solid. Basically the same aim, but likely to have less adverse consequences than mine.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 05:22 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 05:22 AM (J+mig)
My aim is to get more power back to the States which was what the aim of the founders was.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:24 AM (mpXpK)
We have judicial retention elections in Kansas, and I am doing my part to clean out the rot.
I am going to tell my Federal Senator with a partial clue that his best hope for saving America is returning to regular order in the budget and having impeachment trials for overreaching Judges and Executive Branch employes. We have enough laws.
He mostly acts as an Citizen Ombudsman for the Executive Branch, but he did knock off the Director of OMB after the Chinese data theft.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 05:26 AM (u82oZ)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 05:27 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:29 AM (mpXpK)
Stay safe horde
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2016 05:32 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: Jean at September 27, 2016 05:43 AM (ngn8T)
Remember this. Ultimately debates don't change minds. They embolden those who are decided. For those who have not it is simply a chance to view the candidate.
Also remember this. People hate Washington. They hate career politicians. They know when things are not right with the country, and when you're blowing smile up their asses.
People wanted a change with Obama. They largely want a change now. They know Hillary is t that change. She's doubling down on more of the same. Her comments about taxing the rich, class warfare and social warfare are not going to win votes. In fact she will lose her independents. This will be a tough race, but the advantage is still Trump. People do not like or trust Hillary because she's a proven liar and long time Washington denizen. There is plenty of time to drive that home.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2016 05:46 AM (1aLAd)
A hold on immigration, the ending of some Federal departments, and real education reform is the path. We need smarter citizens. And get Congress to do their job.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 05:47 AM (u82oZ)
departments, and real education reform is the path. We need smarter
citizens. And get Congress to do their job.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 05:47 AM (u82oZ)
You won't get any of those things w/o an Art V convention. Hell, RR couldn't even get rid of PBS and he was the most popular President we have had since George Washington. .
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 05:54 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Music, to be specific. I once found an mp3 player in nearly similar broken condition that had thousands of interesting mp3s on it, which I could access by plugging it into my computer. Since most people use their phones as their music players these days, I was wondering if maybe this was a similar situation.
But nowadays there are all sorts of "security protections" on phones, so I doubt it's possible. Also, my computer is really old and I can't even plug my own phone into it and get any data onto or off of the phone, so I doubt I'll be able to access this broken phone either. Just sort of curious if there was some other "obvious" way I didn't know about.
Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2016 05:58 AM (jBuUi)
Posted by: The irredeemable garbone at September 27, 2016 06:02 AM (9dH/8)
Posted by: tofer732 at September 27, 2016 06:08 AM (PJMpr)
Thanks for letting me know, Chi. That was kind of you. I will pray it is helpful to her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 06:18 AM (EnGQE)
so questions on birtherism, his tax returns, sexism and racism and his
temperament, and nothing on Benghazi, the email server and the Clinton
Foundation pay to play. Well done Lester.
Posted by: tofer732 at September 27, 2016 06:08 AM (PJMpr)
Republican have to learn to do like Democrats. When the biased turd asks about tax returns he responds with an answer about pay to play.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:21 AM (mpXpK)
Moderator: What about your tax returns Mr Trump?
Trump: My returns have nothing in them deducting tax free bribes as a charity.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:23 AM (mpXpK)
1973: Trump accused of racial discrimination in rental agreements.
1973: Clinton thrown off Watergate committee for ethics violations.
Trump may have used bankruptcies to avoid paying corporate bills.
Clinton financed run with futures commodities trading scandal and Whitewater.
Trump took the high road (or couldn't think of those).
McCain and Romney took high roads, too. Remember?
Looks like a case where "Trump being Trump" might have been illustrative.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 27, 2016 06:24 AM (H5rtT)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:25 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Deplorable IrishEi at September 27, 2016 06:29 AM (eM2Uz)
Gives us light sleeping desert dwellers something to gnaw on in the middle of the night.
Early today, too.
.
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 06:30 AM (no0Da)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 06:31 AM (EnGQE)
Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2016 06:31 AM (+q52R)
Posted by: Deplorable IrishEi at September 27, 2016 06:32 AM (eM2Uz)
Posted by: Ripley at September 27, 2016 06:32 AM (1BQGO)
Saw a reporter (CNN?) ask him if he'd "accept the results of the election." I heard that phrase at least one other time last night somewhere else. He's being set up for hypocrisy if he contests a close vote count in a swing state.
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 06:35 AM (no0Da)
Posted by: Deplorable IrishEi at September 27, 2016 06:35 AM (eM2Uz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 06:31 AM
~~~~~
Very true.
Posted by: Deplorable IrishEi at September 27, 2016 06:36 AM (eM2Uz)
--
I thought it was just some lurkers finally posting. /sarc
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 06:37 AM (Om16U)
These debates haven't been debates in in over 100 years.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:39 AM (mpXpK)
I watched the second half. Wasn't particularly impressed by Trump,
seemed somewhat flustered but wasn't a disaster either considering he
had the moderator to contend with. Too many missed opportunities.
Hillary looked good and had her lies down pat and spewed them flawlessly
while sounding informed and without screeching. If I were a typical
undecided LIV immersed in the common culture narrative, I would give the
win to Hillary.
.
.
.
.Anyone undecided at this point is most certainly not a LIV. Those people have long ago put their vote on hillary.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2016 06:39 AM (iONHu)
Just wanted to mention (and I guess everyone else noticed too) that
there was an extraordinary number of trolls on last night's debate
threads. It was so bad that I didn't comment and just scrolled quickly
through what was there. Too bad because I really look forward to what
the horde has to say. There was just too much flotsam to wade through.
Posted by: Deplorable IrishEi at September 27, 2016 06:35 AM (eM2Uz)
I saw it too, in my can't post at home state. More trolls means we're moving up in the enemy's threat assessments, so it's probably a good sign, as annoying as it is.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 27, 2016 06:40 AM (J+mig)
the other issues will even matter if we don't get control of the
borders and the invaders. That is what propelled Trump to the lead, probably issue number 1 with his base and also what Dems use to attack him as a racist. yet there wasn't any discussion of that? I suppose that is why Holt skipped over it to spend time on the burning issue of birtherism.
Posted by: Ripley at September 27, 2016 06:42 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2016 06:39 AM (iONHu)
I have long said that there is no such thing as an undecided voter. When you are down to the wire anyone whop says they are undecided doesn't intend to vote anyway. And so-called independents are largely a myth as well.
I would say that 95% or more of people who actually vote regularly vote for one Party or the other consistently. Technically speaking every voter in SC is an "independent" since you do not register by Party here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:43 AM (mpXpK)
They've never been anything but a media event. Harding and Cox did more real debating from their front porches than any candidate has done "on the podium."
It's been League of Women Voters goo-goo pablum from the beginning. And do we ever eat that shit up.
Lincoln and Douglas, we should recall, were running for the Senate.
And yes, we should...recall.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 27, 2016 06:43 AM (H5rtT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 06:43 AM (EnGQE)
So I don't trust my punditry.
Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2016 06:45 AM (ACqhm)
I came back later and noticed that. Well, the Hillary campaign has conformed they pay for trolls-they just don't call them that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 27, 2016 06:47 AM (EnGQE)
One group - Bernie supporters. He reminded them of how the DNC stiffed them.
Another, Union voters. NAFTA.
Third, the infamous soccer moms. He was restrained, didn't take some obvious below the belt shots, while she was a smirking bitch. Possible win.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 06:48 AM (Om16U)
Vic, I am a tad cynical on external remedies. Even if it's in the Constitution.
We have a large part of the population that can not process history, logic, current events, economics or science. By design of those running the US Government.
In a rational world Hillary would be in prison after Whitewater, and never be a US Senator. Yet she has support by the reactionaries of the world.
The revolutionary promise of productive self-governed citizens has been rubbed out in my lifetime. I submit that even a well run Article V convention will not return us to a blessed path. It's a Hail Mary.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 06:50 AM (u82oZ)
Donald has 59% of the white male non-college educated vote and I doubt Hillary said anything last night to cause any of them to want to vote for her.
Do not underestimate how pissed off this country is and how fed up we are with Obama and Hillary.
I still think this is a close election and I don't see her running away with it.
Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2016 06:51 AM (Z56vq)
I hope you're right, because on the surface there didn't appear to be a strategy. But I'm generally ignorant of the long game. Being a simple caveman and all.
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Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 06:52 AM (no0Da)
didn't take some obvious below the belt shots, while she was a smirking
bitch. Possible win.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom"
Was he restrained or did he just miss the opportunities? Not sure but that is where he needs better prep to not miss the opportunities without sounding too crude.. Hopefully this first debate will be part of his prep for the second. Hillary will learn nothing from it as she already knows everything.
Posted by: Ripley at September 27, 2016 06:53 AM (1BQGO)
I don't think they thought that one through.
Holt: DT, Do you think obama was born in the United States?
DT, why don't you ask hillary, her man Blumenthal first brought it up in her 2008 campaign against obama.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2016 06:53 AM (iONHu)
Remember the lesson from Prohibition. It was passed by congress and ratified by the State Legislatures even as the "real people" did not want it. So repeal was passed by Congress but sent directy to the people for ratification bypassing eh State Legislatures who were still "bought" by the temperance leagues.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 06:54 AM (mpXpK)
And I thought he did great, very empathetic in manner, on the race section.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 06:55 AM (Om16U)
Posted by: goon at September 27, 2016 06:55 AM (k6BdX)
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at September 27, 2016 06:56 AM (4pjhs)
Does not compute.
It was discussed and argued.
.
Posted by: Love hertz (transitioning to lower case) at September 27, 2016 06:57 AM (no0Da)
The repeal of the 19th Amendment was the will of the people.
Bottom line, if we can fix Congress, our governmental system will work properly. If.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 06:57 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: grammie winger, redeemed remnant at September 27, 2016 06:59 AM (DLIpz)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 06:59 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 07:00 AM (u82oZ)
I am sure she didn't have THE questions beforehand, as per Holt. As example: she didn't have the actual question: "Did Jim eat lunch at home?". Instead Holt sent her, for practice: "Did Jim eat lunch at his house?"
But knowing what was going to be asked did her little good. Like I said, she was robotic and rote. Had to be done that way...imagine her answers if she didn't have little sermons already at the ready, what with all the drugs in her system and whatnot.
Posted by: lizabth at September 27, 2016 07:01 AM (p0fBx)
Does not compute.
It was discussed and argued.
.
.
.Must be comments from people who didn't actually watch the debate then. Weird.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2016 07:01 AM (iONHu)
HopefullyTrump took a couple blows to his ego, that taught him that the next debate will require some preparation on his part.
One strength that Trump has is the ability to compare desired results to actual results.
And then adjust his plan accordingly.
Hillary does not have that strength.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:02 AM (J+eG2)
I'm old Vic, not quite that old though.
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at September 27, 2016 06:56 AM (4pjhs)
With regard to what post???
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:03 AM (mpXpK)
Top o' the morning to ya.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:03 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 27, 2016 07:04 AM (Om16U)
546
I'm old Vic, not quite that old though.
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at September 27, 2016 06:56 AM (4pjhs)
With regard to what post???
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
543
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (4pjhs)
As I mentioned yesterday, I didn't watch the debate. I figured God doesn't love me nearly enough to let Scankles go full Mommy Dearest in front of the entire country. Of course, the local "news" radio this morning said that she was poised and presidential while Teh Donald was freewheeling and pugnacious.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (X6fMO)
the effect that debates don't really matter and that nobody watches them
anyway. This is in stark contrast to all the talk yesterday of biggest
audience ever and Trump was going to clean her clock and she would
crumple into a heap of seizures. So I take it that things didn't go as
planned.
Posted by: grammie winger, redeemed remnant at September 27, 2016 06:59 AM (DLIpz)
Oh I think a lot of people watched it. But I also think nobody's vote will be changed because of it. There is an old saying that came form the 60s after the Kennedy-Nixon debates. Debates rarely help a candidate, but they can sure destroy one if he messes up badly.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:06 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2016 07:08 AM (J+eG2)
With regard to what post???
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
543
Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at September 27, 2016 07:05 AM (4pjhs)
Well its in the history books and I have seen it discussed before a being an oddity.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2016 07:08 AM (mpXpK)
May you all have a blessed day.
My new secular blessing:
May every traffic light turn green as you approach.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2016 07:11 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: deplorable small town girl at September 27, 2016 07:12 AM (PoGrh)
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