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Thread below the Gardening Thread: VDH on Today's Elites [KT]
. . . the people feel that elites do not follow the laws.Do you agree with his assessment? Can you think of other worrisome characteristics of today's elites? How are today's elites different from those of, say, 1896?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:05 AM (44Kmm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:08 AM (J+eG2)
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More likely to be worshipers of Baal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:09 AM (9mTYi)
. . . the people feel that elites do not follow the laws.
Do you agree with his assessment?
Duh.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:09 AM (44Kmm)
Verdict: Smart as a bag o' wet mice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:11 AM (jR7Wy)
'. . . the people feel that elites do not follow the laws.'
Do you agree with his assessment?"
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No. I don't agree. Feel has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:11 AM (Pz4pT)
Here's the Helprin article on nukes and our piss-poor strategic thinking. Like VDH he thinks our present course won't end well.
http://tinyurl.com/jznlmgk
Posted by: MTF at September 24, 2016 11:11 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)
I would rather we call them Establishmentarians. Or just Establishment, if that's too many syllables. They have power, but they don't deserve power. If you call them elite, we have to debate whether they earned it or not. Let's skip that step.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:13 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 11:14 AM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Ba'al's Errant Apostrophes at September 24, 2016 11:14 AM (PEG9u)
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Agreed. That's one reason that like him, or dislike him, Newt always has thoughtful insights. He is studied. The same might be said of Krauthammer.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:15 AM (9mTYi)
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More likely to be worshipers of Baal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:09 AM (9mTYi)
Back in the day, seems the avenues of approach were business or politics.
Today, there are many several more approaches.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 24, 2016 11:16 AM (dtWKK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:17 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:18 AM (cF2Eu)
There. Now you've got the hints of the answer in the question itself.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 11:18 AM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:18 AM (JfUI4)
Yes, and it has always been that way. It is nothing new.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:18 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 11:19 AM (H5rtT)
The Rule of Law prevents the powerful from over running everyone and everything. Before the Law, all men (at least in America) were supposed to be equal.
Sure, it was imperfect. But I would rather have an imperfect ideal to point to rather than the ugly glib rationalizations that pass for thinking these days.
The super-rich think that being super-rich justifies whatever they think and do.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM (S6Pax)
Of the young college educated people I work with(and that is the majority in my company), one gets any references I make about classical literature or history.
Posted by: Very Undude at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM (2X7pN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM (cF2Eu)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (JfUI4)
Yep. Connected = un-prosecuted.
Non connected = buried.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (44Kmm)
Mornin ya'al
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (JmjOe)
Two major differences that jump to mind are 1. that they at least made a pretense to being something different than that, 2. the idea of noblesse oblige was taken seriously, not as pity or something political, but as a duty you owed to your country.
Posted by: AD at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (924j6)
My beef? They simply aren't as well read as they think they are. They've read about literature and history, but very deeply into the source material.
Verdict: Smart as a bag o' wet mice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:11 AM (jR7Wy)
The modern education system gives them a treatment of everything that's a mile wide and an atom deep, so they can appear to be smart, and act the part and sound like they might know what they're talking about at first... but while leaving them with as empty a head of mush that they can.
It's designed to keep people ignorant and controllable, not to teach them to think for themselves.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:23 AM (cF2Eu)
Posted by: Dinesh D'Souza at September 24, 2016 11:23 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 11:23 AM (wPiJc)
The Sheriff of course.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:23 AM (mpXpK)
The Rule of Law prevents the powerful from over running everyone and everything. Before the Law, all men (at least in America) were supposed to be equal.
Sure, it was imperfect. But I would rather have an imperfect ideal to point to rather than the ugly glib rationalizations that pass for thinking these days.
The super-rich think that being super-rich justifies whatever they think and do.
Ask Marie and Louie how that worked out.
Paging Dr. Guillotin.
Dr. Guillotin, please pick up the bloody red courtesy phone.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:24 AM (44Kmm)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:25 AM (JfUI4)
The crooked Sheriff in my old town in GA sent deputies to arrest my
father one Sunday morning for running a still in the middle of town two
blocks from main street where we lived. Of course it was bullshit as he
had the wrong man. But the moral of the story is "guess who the biggest
bootlegger in town was"?
The Sheriff of course.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:23 AM (mpXpK)
That was typical Democrat machine politics, according to my parents. And it's the reason why the South is now solid red. But they just don't get it...
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:25 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:26 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: JEM at September 24, 2016 11:27 AM (TppKb)
Hillary breaks a rule, gets a pass. Not even a slap on the wrist.
A serviceman does something similar that does NOT endanger anyones life, and he goes to jail, no questions asked.
The media glorifies the elites, since they believe they are one of them. In the meantime, all they do is get the peons angry.
IMHO.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 24, 2016 11:27 AM (tvyXw)
Do you agree with his assessment?"
*laughs*
*farts*
*coughs*
*shits*
*drops $50 mil from foreign donors into a pile of shredded documents about people she's had killed*
Posted by: Hillary Von Clinton at September 24, 2016 11:28 AM (iLoHX)
The Argument of Utility makes Tools of us, ALL.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:28 AM (cF2Eu)
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I'm less concerned about the rich. I'm far more concerned about the philosophically-driven politically connected Left (even at the dog-catcher level).
Most of, say, George Soros' minions are not motivated by wealth per se.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:28 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Ba'al's Errant Apostrophes at September 24, 2016 11:29 AM (PEG9u)
Posted by: IanDeal at September 24, 2016 11:29 AM (teGBX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:26 AM (jR7Wy)
I knew what ya meant. They just don't teach real history anymore.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:30 AM (HalrA)
His actions during the GM Bailout warranted impeachment.
He's been flaunting his Half-minority Status since Day 0.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:31 AM (cF2Eu)
Today: Even conservatives spend most of their time worrying about what government is going to do next and thinking that influencing it is more important than what they may individually do with their lives. This is understandable as government is now everywhere and into everything.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:32 AM (3myMJ)
>>That Obama was not impeached for the IRS scandal, Fast
Furious and Solyndra demonstrates clearly that the asshats will not be
held accountable.
His actions during the GM Bailout warranted impeachment.
He's been flaunting his Half-minority Status since Day 0.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:31 AM (cF2Eu)
It's what I call the Historic First card. He uses his status to accuse all of his detractors of racism, and the media (being the loyal lapdogs they are), run with it.
Hillary will do the exact same thing, only with sexism instead of racism, if she gets in. We can't survive another 8 years of this horseshit.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:32 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:28 AM (cF2Eu)
Exactly.
There is a clear line that can be drawn from utilitarianism to many of the profound evils that men have perpetrated on man.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 11:32 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)
You could use mercury batteries, which have a shelf life of decades. But then they would require you to file a 20-page environmental impact statement before throwing each grenade.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (Bvr/A)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:11 AM (jR7Wy)
Yep. Also, (and this seems superficial but really it isn't) they have no class or style. VDH compared the billionaires walking around Silicon Valley in torn jeans and T shirts to the ancien regime aristocrats who played at being peasants. But when the French aristos got tired of dressing up like farmhands and milking cows, they went back to their silk and lace.
Poor and blue collar people used to dress up as best they could because they wanted to look "classy." Think of Louis Armstrong and other jazz artists in their tuxes. My mom came from a blue collar neighborhood and yet when I look at her hs yearbook (class of '42) all the boys had suits and ties on for their pictures and all the girls had (fake) pearls and Andrew Sisters hairstyles.
Now the elites ape the underclass - in their dress and in their language, as do middle class kids. The result is a popular culture that celebrates ugliness.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (P8951)
He's been flaunting his Half-minority Status since Day 0.
OPE. Office of the President Elect.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (44Kmm)
Two major differences that jump to mind are 1. that they at least made a pretense to being something different than that, 2. the idea of noblesse oblige was taken seriously, not as pity or something political, but as a duty you owed to your country.
Posted by: AD at September 24, 2016 11:21 AM (924j6)
Right. Which is in line with my point, that there are many different approaches to elite status these days.
The main difference then, is that in the past you could at LEAST pay lip service to being for the public good, for EVERYBODY!
Now, you have your niche causes, and many several arenas in which these causes are being battled, not just in legislatures. And not just in the marketplace.
So if you want to fight against that sort of thing, where do you fight? How does one concentrate one's fire?
We don't. Because the onslaught is coming from everywhere, and even in the public square, in Washington and the various capitols, we have no sense of "us vs. them" because there is no certainty our "us" is even ours.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (Pz4pT)
Lousy PR department, though. I guess there's a lesson to be learned there.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (H5rtT)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:35 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 24, 2016 11:16 AM
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This is one of the many problems with secularization.
People WILL feel guilt but they have no healthy means to deal with it. Nor do they have any means for determining whether their guilt is rational (justified by their own sins) or just a feeeeeeeling.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 11:35 AM (Nox3c)
worrying about what government is going to do next and thinking that
influencing it is more important than what they may individually do with
their lives. This is understandable as government is now everywhere and
into everything.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:32 AM (3myMJ)
Exactly. The Confucians understood this, that a government in this stage of degeneracy had a paralytic effect. Nobody was willing to take any chances, for fear that they would lose everything to capricious officials.
What comes after isn't any fun, either.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:35 AM (HalrA)
I would only preface that statement with :
Once you run out of Cigarettes and Ammo...
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:36 AM (cF2Eu)
a) it's ok to allow immigration, but that does not mean that it is necessary to have an open borders policy that allows criminals or FSA into the country.
b) it's ok to elect a black or female president, but electing a good president is more important than electing a black or female one.
c) it's wrong for police to shoot someone just because they are black, but if they are threatening the life of the officer, then it is ok for them to be shot.
d) When deciding whether or not to enact a law, it is more important to decide whether the law violates people's rights than whether the law will be efficacious. Thus redistribution laws like OCare are immoral, just as a law that forced people to donated one good kidney would be immoral, even if it was effective in saving lives.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 24, 2016 11:37 AM (dtWKK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)
and in their language, as do middle class kids. The result is a popular
culture that celebrates ugliness.
Posted by: DonnaV.deplorably brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM
(P8951)
It's the way of the Left to destroy the sacred and elevate the profane. Has to do with their mindset. They will always arrive at the exact opposite of the right answer.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:37 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:37 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 24, 2016 11:38 AM (3eL8i)
Much discussion in the comments.
Very little of which is supportive of Frank's position.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:38 AM (J+eG2)
Probably the only one here to have actually used a battery-powered grenade?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 11:38 AM (H5rtT)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The reason why they hate us so profoundly is simple. We abolished slavery. As wannabe masters, they will never forgive us for having done so.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:39 AM (HalrA)
Pope Groovy can put his own head on the block, he ain't putting mine.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 11:40 AM (iLoHX)
Today: I have an empty shack: Describing what I have to do in order to rent it would fill a book. And that's before we get to the tax reporting and paying.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:40 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 11:33 AM (P8951)
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No, I think this is very pertinent to the discussion. It's not just aspirational to dress decently in public, it also indicates respect for self and for others. In private I can indulge in squalor, but I try to be at least minimally put together when I step outside. There's nothing hypocritical about presenting a "public face" to the world. It means you are a member of society on equal footing with others.
Public and private are concepts no longer in vogue.
WOW do I sound old and crotchety!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Illuminated Savage at September 24, 2016 11:40 AM (jR7Wy)
I used to buy cigarettes and ammo.
About 5 years ago I quit smoking.
Now it all goes towards ammo.
We're OK at Fortress VIA
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:40 AM (J+eG2)
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It sprang from the popular perspective that we could all be better (in the social sense) people than we are. The manner of dress and polite behavior were things that reflected a desire to become a better, more respected class of person than we were.
This all began to fall apart in the 60's. In fact, it came crashing down.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:41 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 24, 2016 11:41 AM (HYzy5)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 11:41 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:42 AM (3myMJ)
Now it all goes towards ammo.
We're OK at Fortress VIA
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:40 AM (J+eG2)
Are you hungry all the time too? Do you dream about cigarettes?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:42 AM (mpXpK)
Remember when we would dress well to enter the house of the Lord?
Good times...good times.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:42 AM (J+eG2)
Now the elites ape the underclass - in their dress and in their language, as do middle class kids. The result is a popular culture that celebrates ugliness.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V
Complete with tattoos.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2016 11:43 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:43 AM (JfUI4)
Probably the only one here to have actually used a battery-powered grenade?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 11:38 AM (H5rtT)
Heh. No grenades here. But I might go look at a Weasel for sale today; it's on my way as I go North to do a wellsite job. Not that I need another one, but I would hate for the crusher to get it. Or maybe I could sell some parts...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2016 11:44 AM (Bvr/A)
Much discussion in the comments.
Very little of which is supportive of Frank's position.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:38 AM (J+eG2)
There's a word for this sort of thing: Ecumenism. Been going on for many years.
I try not to pay much attention to the Fresh Pope these days, but I'm gonna guess his version is less about finding similarities between faith traditions, and more about abandoning those that have traditionally been the pillars of the Church.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:44 AM (Pz4pT)
1. A sense of entitlement based not on wisdom or understanding but on 'education' and connections.
2. The notion that results aren't what matter, but good intentions, and not necessarily actually having good intentions, but merely intending to someday have good intentions, or even just saying that you intend to have good intentions.
3. A dismissal of the infrastructure of human capabilities that allow them to be at the top of the pyramid without acknowledging the lower levels of the pyramid. (I can expand on this idea if I get some time today).
4. A fundamental insecurity, knowing deep down that they are morally and intellectually naked. It's a lot of bluster and tap dancing to cover up their own weaknesses.
5. Self-hatred -- Look in the mirror, see that you are a flawed individual (as are all of us) and lashing out at that by lashing out at 'others'.
There are certainly others.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 11:44 AM (wPiJc)
Actually no.
About once a year I will get the urge for a good cigar.
But I don't succumb to it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:44 AM (J+eG2)
A phone number is a double edged sword, now you will be bombarded night and day by unsolicited calls
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:43 AM (JfUI4)
We were on the "no call" list but they kept calling anyway up until I just got rid of the land line altogether.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (mpXpK)
Saw a picture of people in Hillary and Obama costumes being hauled in what was referred to as a horse-drawn "jail cart".
That is a TUMBREL, and I fear we are going to need some if the destruction of the Law continues. Just pray you're the driver, not the VIPs in the back, because their ride does not end well.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (LeUrG)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:42 AM (mpXpK)
I recommend chewing gum. It tricks your body into thinking that you're eating.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (HalrA)
I quit for 8-9 years. I had the same problems.
I also had to buy a Yo-Yo so I had something to do with my hands.
I know. Go ahead and crack wise, Horde.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (cF2Eu)
The entire cocktail circuit is in hysterics, and not the ha-ha-funny kind.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 11:46 AM (wPiJc)
Then he probably jumped in his Gulfstream and flew off to buy another show pony off the Queen for his daughter.
And they wonder why we hate these assholes.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2016 11:46 AM (qJhUV)
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It sprang from the popular perspective that we could all be better (in the social sense) people than we are. The manner of dress and polite behavior were things that reflected a desire to become a better, more respected class of person than we were.
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They say in a healthy culture, the lower classes imitate the upper classes and in a degenerate culture the upper classes imitate the lower classes. And Obozo and Mooch are about as low class as you can get.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 11:46 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: C. Moss at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (1ORx/)
6. A twisting of language: "Senator XYZ has dedicated his life to public service." translates to "You peons owe me, big time!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 11:46 AM (wPiJc)
And eventually leads to the Rectification of the Names. Words have meanings, and reality comes crashing back with a vengeance every time, but they never learn.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (HalrA)
That may be a fundamental division needing some deep exploration.
I think I could make a strong case, if I were more interested.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (d6TTt)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
What did I do with that damn 8-ball?...
Looks like a targeted shooting
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:28 AM (cF2Eu)
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Bingo.
Y'no, when Marx said that under socialism the "state" would wither away, people chuckle. After all the "state" is much bigger under socialism, isn't it?
But if you read what he has to say about it, you can see that his prophecy was correct. His point was that "government over men," with its antique laws and rulers and conflicts, would be replaced by the (bureaucratic) "administration of things."
He just didn't make it clear that WE are the THINGS.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 24, 2016 11:37 AM (HalrA)
Elevating ugliness also has a terrible impact on the underclass, as well as on the middle and upper class. If you're a inner city black, everything you see in popular culture is a validation of the worst aspects of your life. Rap is cool! Even the crackas think so! Your expressions, your clothes, your hostile and violent attitude is applauded by the media.
I recall reading that Motown mogul Berry Gordy made his stars, like the Supremes, take charm school classes, so they learned how to eat, walk and talk like ladies and gentlemen. He thought it was tremendously important to show the public that black entertainers could be classy and well spoken and dignified.
He would be called a "coon" today.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 11:48 AM (P8951)
So we drop Little VIA at the church which sponsors his Scout Troop last night.
Big rainbow banner over the main entry door.
Two banners inside the foyer.
And the newest addition.
A
"Stonewall is inside all of us" Poster inside the foyer.
The place is nothing except a gay social club, that likes to sing song.
I sometimes feel that Jesus stands outside there, and silently weeps for his people.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:48 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (cF2Eu)
I think that's great. Did you learn lot of yo-yo tricks or just did the standard up and down yo-yo move?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 11:48 AM (EnGQE)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:49 AM (qq4lq)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:49 AM (3myMJ)
Or jihadi?
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
It was reported earlier that he called out one of the woman victims by name before killing her, so it sounds like a personal vendetta, not a random jihad killing. Muzzies and illegal "hispanic" aliens are both equally capable of vendettas, of course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2016 11:49 AM (Bvr/A)
You ever try to throw one of those things away?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:50 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 11:50 AM (q6C1L)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:50 AM (44Kmm)
1. A sense of entitlement based not on wisdom or understanding but on 'education' and connections.
2. The notion that results aren't what matter, but good intentions, and not necessarily actually having good intentions, but merely intending to someday have good intentions, or even just saying that you intend to have good intentions.
3. A dismissal of the infrastructure of human capabilities that allow them to be at the top of the pyramid without acknowledging the lower levels of the pyramid. (I can expand on this idea if I get some time today).
4. A fundamental insecurity, knowing deep down that they are morally and intellectually naked. It's a lot of bluster and tap dancing to cover up their own weaknesses.
5. Self-hatred -- Look in the mirror, see that you are a flawed individual (as are all of us) and lashing out at that by lashing out at 'others'.
There are certainly others.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 11:44 AM (wPiJc)
I'm not going to read the article either. Here's my definition of "elite," or as I prefer "establishmentarian."
Start with the belief that your are right, having acquired this belief from whatever source of power you choose, as long as it's an "in" crowd source.
Then everything you do, if it serves the rightness of your pet cause, furthers your place inside the in crowd.
Repeat as long and as often as necessary to preserve your position. Grow old inside your cause. Or become famous somehow.
Congratulations! You sir/madam/it, are a member of the elite establishment!!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:51 AM (Pz4pT)
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yup. world war one you saw units made up of Harvard students, artists and literary figures, etc. in regular infantry roles, dying like anybody else on the front lines. canada lost one unit that took out their cream of the crop, iirc. great tragedy.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 24, 2016 11:51 AM (U0lQa)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:51 AM (JfUI4)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:52 AM (mpXpK)
There are multiple reasons for the attraction to smoking, both physical and mental.
One example:
Smokers subconsciously think that lighting up makes them look like they are doing something when they aren't.
(I was a smoker)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (3myMJ)
Was just at the pawnshop. H R Garand. Original wood $1095.00.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 11:50 AM (44Kmm)
Did you look down the barrel and check the condition of the rifling? There are a lot of shot out Chinese Garrands going on the market.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (mpXpK)
And they wonder why we hate these assholes.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2016 11:46 AM (qJhUV)
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Fixers First Rule of Socialism :
1. Socialists are ALWAYS Capitalists when it comes to their *own *shit. Always.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (JmjOe)
yup. world war one you saw units made up of Harvard students, artists and literary figures, etc. in regular infantry roles, dying like anybody else on the front lines. canada lost one unit that took out their cream of the crop, iirc. great tragedy.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 24, 2016 11:51 AM (U0lQa)
I remember reading what JRR Tolkien had to say about the
subject. His University class was almost killed to a man in World War I.
He himself was grievously wounded.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (d6TTt)
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Some years ago, there was an article about Jesse Jackson going to California in support of a Nurse's Union strike. He had a suite at the Beverly Hilton, and was delivered to the strike location in a Mercedes limo. When he stepped from the limo, he was wearing worn bib overalls, with a red bandanna dangling from the back pocket.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (9mTYi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5wZuBxDuM
Posted by: @votermom's phone at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (tON+x)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 11:55 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:48 AM (J+eG2)
The human race worships the orgasm, in all its works.
Jesus, as far as I can tell, never said anything about orgasms. Yet here we are, all these years later, placing it above all else.
Le Sigh...
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 11:55 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: fixerupper
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This is about about my new dacha in Vermont, isn't it?
Posted by: Bernie at September 24, 2016 11:55 AM (9mTYi)
Biggest thing that I did was look at every action or habit which I associated with smoking a cigarette.
Fast food burger, followed by a smoke
Beer with friends, with a smoke
Coffee on the back porch, with a smoke.
On and on.
If it was followed by a smoke, or was done in conjunction with a smoke, I changed it.
Flat out gave up fast food burgers for two months.
It worked.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:56 AM (J+eG2)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 11:57 AM (q6C1L)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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"The choice for working class families is obvious." - Hillary
Really? Why?
Posted by: Bernie at September 24, 2016 11:57 AM (9mTYi)
They are. How they can share some of Soro's wealth.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 24, 2016 11:58 AM (1vFHw)
No...
I paid more in Income Tax than General Electric did... and I was unemployed for much of last year.
The elites are using Lawfare which we can't afford... they then get their pet politicians to write rules which favor them... which they exploit through... more lawyers.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2016 11:59 AM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:59 AM (JfUI4)
Jackson going to California in support of a Nurse's Union strike. He had
a suite at the Beverly Hilton, and was delivered to the strike location
in a Mercedes limo. When he stepped from the limo, he was wearing worn
bib overalls, with a red bandanna dangling from the back pocket.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (9mTYi)
The funniest thing I ever saw when I was up in Saratoga Springs, NY and went the clubs to dance were the women from Skidmore. They came in wearing bib overalls and had diamond earrings and pearl necklaces. Could not dress down.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 12:00 PM (mpXpK)
In the year 1900 that order was reversed.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 12:00 PM (q6C1L)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 11:59 AM (JfUI4)
We still have slavery. The chains are just different.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 12:01 PM (Pz4pT)
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There was an American Millionaire's Squadron of fighter pilots back when a million dollars was a lot of money and fighter pilots' life expectancy was measured in weeks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:01 PM (Nwg0u)
Really? Why?
Posted by: Bernie at September 24, 2016 11:57 AM (9mTYi)
Especially when the issue she was yelling at us about is 'right to work' laws...
Which say you can work a 'Union' job without having to pay the union...
Union jobs... which only affect 6.5% of non Government Jobs....
So she was yelling at 93% of us about something, which does not affect us...
And that's if we even HAVE a job...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2016 12:01 PM (qf6WZ)
Is the Washington state shooter really Hispanic.
Or jihadi?
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
In a lot of these shootings, the Feds have jumped right in.
I haven't heard about that in this instance. The shooter got away. Maybe the Feds would just as soon leave well enough alone.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:01 PM (sdi6R)
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i remember being confused as to why the Beatles were working class because they wore suits all the time
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 24, 2016 12:02 PM (U0lQa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 12:02 PM (EnGQE)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:03 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 24, 2016 12:03 PM (/NlFx)
Posted by: Tryon is DOOMED at September 24, 2016 12:03 PM (ONpcC)
She confuses leadership with not being subject to any rules. Or am I using an outdated definition?
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 12:03 PM (dQpUB)
Jackson going to California in support of a Nurse's Union strike. He had
a suite at the Beverly Hilton, and was delivered to the strike location
in a Mercedes limo. When he stepped from the limo, he was wearing worn
bib overalls, with a red bandanna dangling from the back pocket.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM (9mTYi)
I had a rather meaningful, eye-opening experience like that years ago. This involved a bum who was always sitting in front of a building in which I worked downtown. Some days people would stop and chat with him, some days he had food he was eating, with his benefactor standing there, admiring his/her "good" work.
I'm sure many gave his cash. I never saw anyone do it, but I'm sure they did.
Then one day I saw him arrive. Got out of a Mercedes. Dropped off at the front entrance to the building, where he promptly took up his duty station and went to work. Just like everybody else.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:04 PM (2cS/G)
Second, not eve gonna take a jab at a Unified Theory of Elite Dysfunction in Historical Perspective.
Just a few pieces of the elephant.
In 1896 one couldn't become wealthy and influential almost overnight (not to the extent I'm talking about), like say Zuckerberg. That sort of wealth took a lifetime of effort, and actual building, and life experience. I am unaware of any tycoon of the pre-tech era who wasn't also a seasoned veteran of life. There has to be - and obviously is - a world of difference in such individuals.
Someone mentioned noblesse oblige, but I think in the US (and select Euro countries up to WWII) there was an actual code wherein most of the "elites" were quick to pick up a rifle (ck out the Ivies after Pearl Harbor). Little of that remains, and it's indicative.
But mostly it's not the so-called elites that anger or disappoint me - it's the broader public/electorate, in its indulgence of the degradation, that appeals me and fails itself.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2016 12:04 PM (QDnY+)
also having basement windows replaced with glass blocks so i have to clean all that crap up. yay spiders
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 24, 2016 12:04 PM (U0lQa)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:05 PM (qq4lq)
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I never got to wears bluejeans to school until Jr High.....
It alway bugged my Dad his kids wore "dungarees" to school.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 12:05 PM (JmjOe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Ironman is a fictional character, created in comic book.
There's a lot of thinking going on out there in the Entertainment business. Or maybe a lot of faulty thinking.
Multi-millionaire pop star icon, champion of the workin' man, Bruce Springsteen is on top of this.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at September 24, 2016 12:05 PM (S6Pax)
They must be stopped.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2016 12:06 PM (ku/4f)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2016 12:06 PM (QDnY+)
I can do some pretty goofy shit with a Yo.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 12:06 PM (cF2Eu)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:06 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at September 24, 2016 11:51 AM
I remember reading what JRR Tolkien had to say about the
subject. His University class was almost killed to a man in World War I.
He himself was grievously wounded.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 11:54 AM
I recommend Dan Carlin's "Hardcore History" on WW1. It's a six part podcast (over 25 hours long in total) & it's fascinating start to finish.
Blueprint for Armageddon
It's really good
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2016 12:07 PM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich
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I've bitched about this asshole several times, and I suppose it might tiresome to hear it again, but it grates on me mightily when I see the TV ad by the guys whose 'biggest problem' was finding a shirt that 'looks good' untucked.
Really? That's your 'biggest problem', you sanctimonious hipster douche? Your 'problem' is trying to appear sophisticated in your slovenly manner of dress?
I've added the guy to my list of punchables.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:07 PM (9mTYi)
Yes. Because feelings are more important than logic or facts. Or rather their feelings are.
I don't remember who said that the elevation of sentimentality ends with Auschwitz. I read that when I was young and thought it was utterly ridiculous. Now I understand it. Once feeeeeelllings become more important than reason and facts, the Pandora's box is opened and the hate of the mob considered valid because of what they feel. Black cops shot blacks in Charlotte and Milwaukee, but that doesn't matter, just as the actual facts about the contributions Jews made to German culture didn't matter to the Nazis. They felt that an alien "race" had corrupted European culture, they had someone to blame for their troubles and the loss of WWI, and that's all that mattered.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (P8951)
Fenelon means the cideo at 117
It is titled Ironman but it refers to RDJr
Posted by: @votermom's phone at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (tON+x)
Reported in the British paper, The Daily Mail
O.K. It made me laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (EnGQE)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (ev02w)
It alway bugged my Dad his kids wore "dungarees" to school.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 12:05 PM (JmjOe)
Your dad is George Will?
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at September 24, 2016 12:09 PM (yNyJy)
Or maybe
He is an illegal
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:10 PM (qq4lq)
Posted by: Slash_buzz at September 24, 2016 12:10 PM (Efl1C)
Or the Crusades a thousand years ago. There is no time limit on their belly-aching.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 12:10 PM (RrDm2)
Hell, even the Stones wore suits in the beginning. Their big rebellious act in 1963 was to wear ones that didn't match.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:10 PM (P8951)
Posted by: IC at September 24, 2016 12:11 PM (vBpiM)
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Hate-filled bigot Xians: We embrace you as fellow pilgrims seeking God.
Victim of oppression Moslems: Derka derka Mohammad Jihad!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Maybe they aren't sure if his real name and don't have a better photo because he is here illegally
Maybe his family and friends aren't cooperating because they are here illegal
This silence is speaking to me
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:11 PM (qq4lq)
Is the Washington state shooter really Hispanic.
Or jihadi?
Posted by: ThunderB
Well they reported him as Hispanic within five minutes so what do you think?
They report it as here is a picture of the Hispanic gunman, and voila, people see an Hispanic gunman.
He looks middle eastern to me even after being told he was Hispanic.
Two troubling details--no beard, and no reports of "Allahu Akbar".
Why hasn't a family member of acquaintance identified him? He's not from the area I would say. Also because they are thinking: "It looks like Achmed but it can't be him cause he's not Hispanic".
I also find it hard to believe that in a mall covered with cameras, that that is the best pic they have of him.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 24, 2016 12:12 PM (iWW0H)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 12:12 PM (q6C1L)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (qq4lq)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (sdi6R)
My parents were the same way. To the WWII generation, "dungarees" were something guys wore when they went out to milk the cows. They were utterly baffled that teenaged girls like me wanted to wear them on dates, instead of pretty dresses.
I understand where they were coming from now. In 1977, not so much.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (P8951)
No. Wasn't ready to buy.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (d0Dmj)
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Or the Crusades a thousand years ago. There is no time limit on their belly-aching.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 12:10 PM (RrDm2)
Aaaaand, there are Crusades today! They just don't use lances and coats of arms.
You, my good man, are the heathen what needs religion brought to you today.
Convert to the new religion that worships teh ghey, the fever planet, and/or any and every other pet cause of the Elite Industrial Complex!
Convert or die. We point these sharp tweets at you, so you know we're serious.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at September 24, 2016 12:14 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:14 PM (qq4lq)
Winning souls is so ... common. We're better than that.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 24, 2016 12:15 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2016 12:07 PM (ZQfW9)
Will check it out.
My list of things to study.
Right now digging deep into the history of the Byzantine Empire.
Along with a hard look at Pentecostalism, particularly "Oneness" or Apostolic Pentecostalism.
Also reading "The Naked Socialist".
Along with the usual SciFi.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 12:15 PM (d6TTt)
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I suspect they were friends or family members of the primary victim or good Samaritan targets of opportunity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:15 PM (Nwg0u)
It is titled Ironman but it refers to RDJr
Posted by: @votermom's phone
Yes, I know.
The vehicle of RD Jr's fame is largely through the Ironman and Sherlock Holmes movies.
If he had no fame, he would not be asked to virtue signal for the Hollywood numbskulls.
It's like Jack Black and his video about the treaty with Iran.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at September 24, 2016 12:16 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 12:16 PM (iLoHX)
________
Newspaper publishers (elites of opinion) push absurd notions. What they have in common is that they're trying to get people angry.
In 1896, they sold newspapers by having the most popular comics. They all tried to give people a brief chuckle every day.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2016 12:16 PM (EJsAU)
I'm serious. What, if anything, can we do to stop the current downward spiral much less reverse it? Voting?, MoMe militia cells? civil disobedience? Lamppost justice?...
Maybe we're waiting for the election results. Regardless of the results something must be done besides web commenting. We all know time is running out
Posted by: Octiparan at September 24, 2016 12:16 PM (cn2r5)
While we're on the subject........ have you guys ever read the journals of Civil War soldiers, both Yanke and Rebel.
The writing, the eloquence and sentence structure. The talent these simple farm kids had to take their thoughts and pen them to letters home or diary entrys written around a camp fire. I am in awe.
I look at Twitter and weep for our nation.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 12:17 PM (JmjOe)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:17 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 12:17 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:13 PM (qq4lq)
Quite possibly. And it might be narco-gang related, too. Jihadis are usually really insistent upon making it abundantly clear that they are doing allah's work.
Anyway , I have to pack up and head off to my job. Probably won't be back on line until tomorrow morning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2016 12:17 PM (Bvr/A)
Win-win.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 12:18 PM (d6TTt)
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 12:15 PM
I meant to bring this up the other day on the "century ships / sci-fi" thread:
Archive.org has a flaming metric shit-tonne of the sci-fi radio dramas from the '40s / '50s / '60s. The "century / generational" ship concept shows up in some of them
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (ZQfW9)
It has been recovered
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (iLoHX)
That may be a fundamental division needing some deep exploration.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 11:47 AM
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I always cringe when people call what we have now "aristocracy" or, worse yet, "feudalism."
Yeah, our elites are increasingly BORN to rule and they have an accompanying sense of superiority and entitlement. But beyond that they share little with the older aristocracies of Western Europe.
Whatever their faults, the old aristocrats as a whole maintained a strong reverence for history, tradition, decorum, custom, and law.
They recognized standards beyond themselves and their immediate needs. They knew the meaning of words like HONOR and TREASON.
The decadent aristocrats, like those of the Roman Empire or pre-revolution France, KNEW they were decadent. They (rightly) admired their dead-white-male ancestors more than their contemporaries. They did not call obvious decadence "progress."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (7jTtI)
The Stones came from a middle-class background (Mick Jagger went to the London School of Economics), but adopted a badass persona.
The Stones were arguably the first punk rock band, a decade before the term was coined.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:20 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (7jTtI)
Which was my point, upthread. Drop the term. It gives them more power.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 12:20 PM (Pz4pT)
Easy, today's elite women wear ugly pantsuits and housecoats with pajama bottoms.
The dumbass at the Washington Post who suggested that Hillary is a fashion icon needs to look at pictures of women in other era's. 1880's, turn of the century, 20's, 30's. Watch a movie from the thirties or twenties.
And if you think that was only in the movies, there is a Catholic parish in a rural area near me. I have relatives in that parish. The school has class pictures going back to the thirties. You should see the photos of the high school girls. They had the same hair styles that you see in the old movies and they're gorgeous.
Dummy from the Washington Post needs to see a side by side picture of Hillary next to a low income, farm girl from the depression.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 12:21 PM (+lVUW)
Anyway , I have to pack up and head off to my job. Probably won't be back on line until tomorrow morning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 24, 2016 12:17 PM (Bvr/A)
Take plenty of spare mags.
Posted by: tubal at September 24, 2016 12:21 PM (d6TTt)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:22 PM (qq4lq)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 24, 2016 12:24 PM (JmjOe)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:24 PM (qq4lq)
21 It's not just "don't follow the law", but are working avidly to undermine the whole concept of Rule of Law.
The Rule of Law prevents the powerful from over running everyone and everything. Before the Law, all men (at least in America) were supposed to be equal.
Sure, it was imperfect. But I would rather have an imperfect ideal to point to rather than the ugly glib rationalizations that pass for thinking these days.
The super-rich think that being super-rich justifies whatever they think and do.
Posted by: Taqyia2Me, I'm Deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:25 PM (QFpXi)
FBI is involved. Says no evidence of terrorism.
No reasonable prosecutor would find evidence of terrorism.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 12:25 PM (iLoHX)
As I said , seems there are many threads to our current degradation, many her have touched on some, but a unified theory is elusive.
I often just call it a collapse of standards and responsibility and no accountability - in public service/governance, not so much in the sub-sectors Muldoon rightly referenced above (the infrastructure of people and stuff that makes modern prosperity a reality).
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2016 12:26 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 12:26 PM (EnGQE)
One might give reasons why the next 100 years will be ruinous, or glorious. They are all terrific and very convincing reasons. And they don't necessarily contradict each other.
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? Batman flips a semi, that's what.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 12:27 PM (q6C1L)
FBI is involved. Says no evidence of terrorism.
No reasonable prosecutor would find evidence of terrorism.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 12:25 PM (iLoHX)
Pay no attention to all the people who were terrified.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 24, 2016 12:27 PM (dtWKK)
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2016 12:27 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:28 PM (qq4lq)
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Well, if the FBI says it, you can take it to the bank.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:28 PM (Nwg0u)
I don't FEEL, I KNOW.
A party that cannot rid the US of the Clinton Crime Syndicate is useless - this goes double for the GOPe.
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2016 12:28 PM (8J/Te)
Gotten?"
Could we be reaching the point where it reproduces by simply splitting into two smaller asses?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 12:28 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2016 12:29 PM (JfUI4)
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No reasonable prosecutor would find evidence of terrorism.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 12:25 PM (iLoHX)
Good grief. The word terrorism now, is part of the game.
Muzzies are killing us. Let's not call that terrorism, because, well, terrorism is something else. Something other than a group of people, with a shared ideology, causing everyone to fundamentally change the way we act in our own land.
No, that's something else. Perfectly normal, chaps. And it's YOUR fault, you gun-huggers, you.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2016 12:29 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:30 PM (qq4lq)
Now, they call in the FBI every time they need a firm statement that something wasn't terrorism. Is this all still Hoover backlash? Brave new world.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 12:30 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2016 12:30 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2016 11:56 AM (J+eG2)
You gave up drinking beer with friends and drinking coffee on the porch?
What are you...some kind of communist?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:31 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Howard Shultz at September 24, 2016 12:32 PM (dtWKK)
Posted by: Bonedaddi at September 24, 2016 12:32 PM (dE9Jm)
He is an
Posted by: ThunderB
Posted by: The MSM at September 24, 2016 12:32 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (2cS/G)
The Rule of Law prevents the powerful from over running everyone and everything. Before the Law, all men (at least in America) were supposed to be equal.
Posted by: Taqyia2Me, I'm Deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:25 PM (QFpXi)
Before America, almost every government in history consisted of a ruling family or a small number of families lording it over everyone else. They often got to the top by eliminating the opposition, not unlike mob families or drug cartels.
The aristocrats have always hated America and the notion of equality before the law. They believed that the very idea of America needed to be abolished, and they have nearly succeeded in doing so.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (sdi6R)
Gotten?
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2016 12:27 PM (qJhUV)
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Her "great great grandfather" had a big ass too!
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 24, 2016 12:34 PM (q6C1L)
Let's have a conversation about elites.
Posted by: Howard Shultz
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So, writing it on your hand and posting a FB picture is passe?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:34 PM (9mTYi)
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I'll see your Moochbutt and raise you an Amy Schumer.
http://tinyurl.com/j2jxuw5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:34 PM (Nwg0u)
GTFO is a complete sentence.
Yes and leaving or
No and being thrown out is a complete dialog.
Yea - I'm a good catholic today.
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2016 12:35 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2016 12:30 PM (MIKMs)
Don't even get me started on "red state" vs. "blue state".
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Hillary at September 24, 2016 12:38 PM (wOc4Q)
ThunderB, do you have any connections in Houston Law Enforcement? Have you heard anything about the hispanic military guy who shot up that neighborhood/gas station a couple of months ago? It seems like the whole thng disappeared very quickly and very completely.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 24, 2016 12:39 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 12:40 PM (cF2Eu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:41 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 12:30 PM (
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That's what I am thinking too. There's too much not being said about this that makes me think the powers that be is deliberately feeling a need to try to hide something. But it could just be that he was a known illegal felon, let go by B.O.'s thawed ICE, that would not surprise me either. Except that mall shooter's unibrow looks very M.E. to me.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at September 24, 2016 12:41 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (2cS/G)
Magnificent. One of the most beautiful women in show business.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:41 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2016 12:19 PM (7jTtI)
Which was my point, upthread. Drop the term. It gives them more power.
Posted by: BurtTC
E-lites is a bit better.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 24, 2016 12:41 PM (iWW0H)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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Heh.
Posted by: Bowe Bergdahl at September 24, 2016 12:42 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:42 PM (/4G+2)
Posted by: irongrampa at September 24, 2016 12:42 PM (X35Yt)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:43 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:42 PM (/4G+2)
"From The Jordan To The Sea."
Except that's what I call Israel.
And I'm being generous to Abdullah....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:33 PM (2cS/G)
Magnificent. One of the most beautiful women in show business.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:41 PM (Zu3d9)
She was naughty and nude in Deadpool.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:08 PM (P8951)
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Powerful stuff, Donnampersand.
I am reminded of something similar I read when young that I thought was crazy at the time but have learned is true.
It was in a Dostoyevsky novel, The Idiot, I think: "Trying to love your neighbor with first loving God is satanic."
Not just "difficult" or "unwise" or "problematic"---(which would be tricky enough to understand) --- but SATANIC!!!111!!!! Good grief, those Russians get so dramatic and hysterical! What a doofus!
But now I understand. If you do not have a transcendent Good to follow and to restrain you, if you have no allegiance to Truth, if you have no humility, all of your loooooove for your fellow man will only pave the road to hell.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (Nox3c)
After singing soulful rendition of the song A Change is Gonna Come, singer Patti LaBelle said Hillary Clinton into the microphone before leaving the stage. Clinton is the Democratic nominee for president.
What an asshole and so very inappropriate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (/4G+2)
"Fox News has learned that the view inside Trump Tower is that the real estate mogul stands to gain by standing back and letting Hillary Clinton talk. And talk.
Whether it's a wise strategy to give the studied Democratic nominee even more time to show off her policy chops remains to be seen. But the GOP nominee is being advised to let Clinton speak as much as possible on the debate stage, with the thinking being that she could lose viewers the more she does."
"Policy chops?" What policy chops?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (Nwg0u)
Well, how else would you describe them? It's not Marxist to note that different social classes do exist.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (P8951)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (EnGQE)
Posted by: irongrampa
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*shakes out a Marlboro, proffers*
Yeah, I'm a closet smoker. Most of my acquaintance would be shocked if they knew that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (9mTYi)
*cough-cough* *hic* *fart* *hic* *cough*
*googly-eyes*
Posted by: Hillary
"I think you're forgetting something?"
"...squirt..."
"Thanks. Take her away."
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM (iWW0H)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:42 PM (/4G+2)
"From The Jordan To The Sea."
Except that's what I call Israel.
And I'm being generous to Abdullah....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (Zu3d9)
No Of course...but look at the newest pics on Weasel Zipper and tell me what you think?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:46 PM (/4G+2)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2016 12:46 PM (yddCj)
GTFO is a complete sentence.
Yes and leaving or
No and being thrown out is a complete dialog.
Yea - I'm a good catholic today.
Posted by: DaveA
So did Benedict, but what is the Word from the Gospel, from the New Testament, about this?
Isn't the Pope the Vicar of Christ, the metaphysical descendent of Peter?
Did not Jesus Christ say that there would be no Prophets after Him, that He was the Last Word on relationship between God and Man, the New Testament written in His blood?
Islam, is at last, the great Apostasy against Christianity. No wonder the Left embraces it. Pope Francis should not.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at September 24, 2016 12:46 PM (S6Pax)
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Per report last night, Trump is not 'training' with a surrogate debater.
I fear this will not end well.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:47 PM (9mTYi)
The Stones were steeped in Southern Blues.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 12:40 PM (cF2Eu)
You're right. I forgot about The Who.
But my original point about the Beatles and Stones stands, where the Beatles were working class and tried to be more respectable, while the Stones were middle class and tried to be more "street".
So which class did The Who come from? I don't know as much about them.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (ev02w)
And in a few other things too......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:47 PM (Zu3d9)
Reasonable hypothesis given current testimony about calling woman by name. looks the right age to be a brother also. The photo at Zip's from top of head is a terrible angle for identification.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 24, 2016 12:48 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:48 PM (2cS/G)
242 While the opening of the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture was a nonpartisan event, there was a little politicking at the opening ceremony.
After singing soulful rendition of the song A Change is Gonna Come, singer Patti LaBelle said Hillary Clinton into the microphone before leaving the stage. Clinton is the Democratic nominee for president.
What an asshole and so very inappropriate
Posted by: Nevergiveup
LaBelle's signature hit "Lady Marmalade" is a about a whore. Never realized until now that it was quite probably auto-biographical.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 24, 2016 12:49 PM (iWW0H)
They were patriotic. Now they're patri-autistic.
Teddy Roosevelt, 1906: "[T]he man who says that he does not care to be a citizen of any one country, because he is the citizen of the world, is in fact usually and exceedingly undesirable citizen of whatever corner of the world he happens at the moment to be in. In the dim future all moral needs and moral standards may change; but at present, if a man can view his own country and all others countries from the same level with tepid indifference, it is wise to distrust him..."
The "dim future" is now and a president goes to the UN trying to dissolve America into a borderless world.
Nor would yesterday's elites accept the Imperial Banana Republic of one-man treaties and the workaday treason of President Scofflaw.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 24, 2016 12:49 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: DonnaV.deplorably brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 24, 2016 12:45 PM
(P8951)
Traditional Marxist classes aren't social classes, they are legal classes. Owner, worker, servant etc. They only become social classes when the are treated as castes.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2016 12:50 PM (KOBAq)
This is about about my new dacha in Vermont, isn't it?
Posted by: Bernie
*****
Relax, B-Dawg. After all your years as a dedicated public servant, we owe you that much.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 12:50 PM (wPiJc)
I have nothing to say pertaining to muslims except this:
9-11. I will neither forget nor forgive.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 24, 2016 12:50 PM (X35Yt)
LOL.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 12:51 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:44 PM (ev02w)
And in a few other things too......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 12:47 PM (Zu3d9)
Go on...
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:51 PM (ev02w)
I've seen them slap their women. I've seen them order their women to cut their steak for them.
I'm going with domestic violence against a woman he thought dissed him. The others were collateral damage or in his mind supporters of her somehow.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 12:51 PM (3myMJ)
Well said-as always-Margarita.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 12:51 PM (EnGQE)
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Per report last night, Trump is not 'training' with a surrogate debater.
I fear this will not end well.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2016 12:47 PM (9mTYi)
Don't believe everything you hear..As Churchill said:
In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:52 PM (/4G+2)
These are private companies, so they have that right, which is why we need to find alternatives.
Posted by: Howard Shultz at September 24, 2016 12:52 PM (dtWKK)
Posted by: Pete Townsend at September 24, 2016 12:52 PM (cF2Eu)
I have nothing against well groomed beards. I'm really sick of these mountain men beards and neck beards and beards with braids and feathers and beads in them.
It's odd isn't it, that beards are popular at the same time "masculine" is used as an insult?
Why? I remember John Steinbeck (a writer I detest) saying the reason he wore one in the 50's and early '60's when it was unfashionable to do so, is because it was the one thing women could not do better than men, and if they could, their success would be assured only if they joined the circus.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:53 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 12:53 PM (mpXpK)
So that's some good news from Gateway Pundit.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (3myMJ)
DISGUSTING
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (/4G+2)
Our betters have handed the internet to the UN. They take control October 1st.
Whee!
Censorship!
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (tvyXw)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 12:53 PM (mpXpK)
Dawgs are on ESPN getting destroyed by Ole Miss 17-0. In 2nd
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (ev02w)
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Great comment. Well said.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (Nox3c)
So LaBelle sang "Hillary Clinton's Gonna Come?"
Highly doubtful. Just ask Bill.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (P8951)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 12:37 PM (sdi6R)
Or American leftists bleating their concern about the middle class, yet adhering to an ideology that detests the bourgeoisie. Huh?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 12:56 PM (2cS/G)
It's good to try and be a "happy warrior" if possible.
Conservative may be dead, but we'll need some kind of compromise coalition regardless of the outcome of the election.
Posted by: Max Power at September 24, 2016 12:56 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:56 PM (P8951)
Our betters have handed the internet to the UN. They take control October 1st.
Whee!
Censorship!
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (tvyXw)
Congress did nothing to stop totalitarianism.
Shocked.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:56 PM (ev02w)
A Change is Gonna Come? So she's a Trump supporter?
Because Hillary represents no change whatsoever from the Obongo Maladministration.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (SRKgf)
******
New Hillz Lightyear action figure! Complete with kung fu grip, laser and realistic karate policy chop action!!!
"On a secret mission in uncharted space! To Insanity...and Beyond"
/Al's Toy Barn
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (ev02w)
Which ESPN? The ABC station here does normal ESPN which was carrying a different game.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (mpXpK)
Our betters have handed the internet to the UN. They take control October 1st.
Whee!
Censorship!
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And a big Fvck you very much to Bitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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Well, thanks. As you know, my entire career has been devoted to expansion of the public trough.
While I'm here, I should say also that my wife really regrets that $2 Million in debt at Burlington College. She just did not fully understand that the embedded sickness, that capitalism is, would thwart the gestalt of basket weaving and nepotism essential to her plans.
Posted by: Bernie at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (9mTYi)
She's only a typical white woman though.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 12:57 PM (P8951)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2016 12:58 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 12:59 PM (mpXpK)
Most neverTrumpers will vote for Trump no matter they are saying.
The rest are those that rarely or never vote anyway.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:00 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 01:00 PM (/4G+2)
I can't believe we doing this. Oh, I can, but I can't if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 01:00 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 01:01 PM (mpXpK)
That's what drunks do so you won't notice they're drunk. There's a video of her going up the steps to her plane. She's doing it exactly the way drunk does, who thinks he's putting one over on the sober people.
Either that or she really is covering up a neurological problem. She's covering for something.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 01:01 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (mpXpK)
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Neckbeard
Man-bun
Dreads
Tattoos
Skinny jeans
Posted by: Bernie at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
She's always that way. Remember when she exited Chelsea's apartment after collapsing? That broad smile frozen on her face while insisting how wonderful she felt, you could tell she was desperately trying to get across how hale and hearty she was. If she had just left the apartment with a normal demeanor, it would have been much more convincing.
Posted by: Howard Shultz at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (dtWKK)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 01:03 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2016 12:55 PM (SRKgf)
The bourgeoisie own the means of production, so Marxist theory discards them.
It is one of the few internally consistent ideas the American left have, but they just don't understand why....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 01:03 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (EnGQE)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (3myMJ)
The only hope is that if they are as incompetent at running the Internet as they are at everything else, there won't be much of a change. Who is afraid of the blue helmets in a war zone?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (P8951)
This is what the quote should have been.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (3myMJ)
Second look at the "dark web"?
(And I have no idea what that is, or how to access it.)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2016 01:06 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2016 11:20 AM
Beyond the blatant ageism rampant in these casual remarks about one of The Horde's most gravitas-loaded commenters, you realize you may be soon issues with an invitation to remove yourself post-haste from his front lawn?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2016 01:06 PM (OF/aZ)
In an effort to not make her
sound shrill they must have tried to slow her speech down. Now she
pauses too much between words and it just sounds really odd.
She's been doing that for a long time and it's been annoying me for a long time. It's like she's reading to children to the library or something.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2016 01:06 PM (Oi5b2)
I agree with you, and saying, "It's a lovely day in NYC" after attending a 9/11 memorial and being sick was a very abnormal response.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 01:06 PM (EnGQE)
DISGUSTING
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (/4G+2)
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Hey! He's getting his face on the cover of Time!
The whole ruling class, the "elite" we've been talking about on this thread, loooooves him.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 01:07 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:02 PM (3myMJ)
The only hope is that if they are as incompetent at running the Internet as they are at everything else, there won't be much of a change. Who is afraid of the blue helmets in a war zone?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (P8951)
The children caught and sold in child trafficking.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 01:07 PM (ev02w)
Good analogy. I hadn't noticed it because I just try not to listen to Clinton that often.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 01:07 PM (EnGQE)
Can't prove intent, right?
They're boobs. Oh, sorry, that's an insult to women's breasts.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 01:07 PM (+lVUW)
I don't understand how that works. How is the UN going to control the
internet? and if it is say goodbye to anything critical of Islam.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (EnGQE)
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Remember, 'The future shall not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam' from our very own BHO. Where was the major pushback then?
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2016 01:07 PM (MIKMs)
It is one of the few internally consistent ideas the American left have, but they just don't understand why....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 01:03 PM (Zu3d9)
But that includes inter alia everyone with a Fidelity account, most of whom are ... middle class, the original meaning of bourgeois.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (SRKgf)
Per report last night, Trump is not 'training' with a surrogate debater.
As per the radio this morning, he is not training with a 'single' surrogate debater. IOW, several people.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (iLoHX)
He might as well go around to HS games and show boat.... He has nothing else to do...
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (O2RFr)
She can't fix it. She is only attractive to those she has bought or sold in one fashion or another.
About half the country, unfortunately.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Wow, what state is that and are you taxed at the value of The Car?
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 24, 2016 01:09 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: BignJames at September 24, 2016 01:10 PM (9RGU3)
Next up: fake bloodstains on the uniforms and die-ins on the field.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:10 PM (3myMJ)
I'm really sick of
these mountain men beards and neck beards and beards with braids and
feathers and beads in them.
It's odd isn't it, that beards are popular at the same time "masculine" is used as an insult?
Why?
Can't speak for anyone else with an unkempt beard, but if society is going to insist that I stare at myself in the mirror for a while every morning, it can go suck it.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2016 01:11 PM (Oi5b2)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:12 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 01:12 PM (iLoHX)
"Well, Suzie, apparently he applied last year's safety inspection sticker to his windshield unevenly."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 01:12 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:13 PM (3myMJ)
O-Line sucks. Kickers suck. True Freshman Qb with sub par talent at WR.
SMDH.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 01:13 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (SRKgf)
Oh yes.
What fascinates me is their utter lack of historical perspective. If they were only to look at the treatment of the "intelligentsia," which is what they consider themselves, by the Soviet and Red Chinese communists they might be slightly more resistant to progressive ideas.
But of course their hubris prevents that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2016 01:14 PM (Zu3d9)
>> value of The Car?
It's true in a lot of states, it's definitely true in California though the numbers are smaller than VA. They jacked it up a few years ago, one of Schwanzstucker's campaign promises was to cut it back down and he did, then after the Democrats got back in they started pushing it up again in smaller increments.
Posted by: JEM at September 24, 2016 01:14 PM (TppKb)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:14 PM (Sfs6o)
It's a good thing that the priest at my parish is good.
As far as Franky the Commie goes, how old was Benedict when he decided to retire?
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 24, 2016 01:15 PM (+lVUW)
Friday night in Oakland, California, where numerous players were
photographed lying on their backs with their hands raised while the San
Francisco 49ers quarterback kneeled during the pregame playing of the
national anthem.
What's next? Taking a dump at the 50-yard line?
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at September 24, 2016 01:15 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 01:16 PM (H5rtT)
Per report last night, Trump is not 'training' with a surrogate debater.
As per the radio this morning, he is not training with a 'single' surrogate debater. IOW, several people.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2016 01:08 PM (iLoHX)
WSJ said or is going to report that he did a 5 hour straight practice with no breaks.
I think he is off the sex with Melania like Rocky.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 01:16 PM (ev02w)
We have that tax in Colorado but no sticker. You pay it when you renew your plate stickers that designate your expiration month. No pay, no plate sticker.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:16 PM (3myMJ)
Not just "difficult" or "unwise" or "problematic"---(which would be tricky enough to understand) --- but SATANIC!!!111!!!! Good grief, those Russians get so dramatic and hysterical! What a doofus!
But now I understand. If you do not have a transcendent Good to follow and to restrain you, if you have no allegiance to Truth, if you have no humility, all of your loooooove for your fellow man will only pave the road to hell.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
Also, see C.S. Lewis in the Four Loves (on agape):
So, in the last resort, we must turn down or disqualify our nearest and dearest when they come between us and our obedience to God. Heaven knows, it will seem to them sufficiently like hatred. We must not act on the pity we feel; we must be blind to tears and deaf to pleadings.
I will not say that this duty is hard; some find it too easy; some, hard almost beyond endurance. What is hard for all is to know when the occasion for such "hating" has arisen. Our temperaments deceive us. The meek and tender--uxorious husbands, submissive wives, doting parents, dutiful children--will not easily believe that it has ever arrived. Self-assertive people, with a dash of the bully in them, will believe it too soon. That is why it is of such extreme importance so to order our loves that it is unlikely to arrive at all.
How this could come about we may see on a far lower level when the Cavalier poet, going to the wars, says to his mistress:
I could not love thee, dear, so much
Loved I not honour more.
Posted by: Howard Shultz at September 24, 2016 01:17 PM (dtWKK)
Brilliant!!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 01:17 PM (wPiJc)
(And I have no idea what that is, or how to access it.)
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For dark web, you need Tor. Or I2P.
/yeah, I don't know what that really means, but I think we'd all better learn, since we might have to go underground soooon. Pretty sure the HQ won't be cool with the Muslims and Liberals.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 24, 2016 01:18 PM (tvyXw)
In 1896, they sold newspapers by having the most popular comics. They all tried to give people a brief chuckle every day.
Indeed. And I quit subscribing to my local paper in a fit of outrage when I discovered that the huge color advertising section attached to the Sunday paper no longer had any comics in it whatsoever.
When I went down to the office to complain, they said "how much extra would you be willing to pay for Sunday comics?"
I stormed out and they have seen no money from me since.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (Oi5b2)
Second look at the "dark web"?
(And I have no idea what that is, or how to access it.)
Posted by: rickl the deplorable
You have to pay a dark provider with dark money.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (IqV8l)
Clifton Clyde 74
Rural Vista 72
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (WoyGL)
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Most other local jurisdictions have dispensed with the sticker requirement and I assume use other methods to monitor compliance. The City of Alexandria just tacks on $33 to each vehicle tax bill for the sticker.
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (Sfs6o)
(Yeah, yeah, I know they urinate and defecate on the streets of SanFran too, but they haven't made it officially legal yet.)
These little demos of dissing the anthem are going to get stale pretty soon. Have to up the ante. I see great potential in NYC for the Kaepster!
It's not like the 49ers need him in SanFran.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 01:20 PM (Nox3c)
Rural Vista 72
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (WoyGL)
Defensive struggle.
Posted by: BignJames at September 24, 2016 01:20 PM (9RGU3)
A little Dostoyevsky gospel disputation, via Rhonda Vincent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkCqnbpyTZE
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 01:22 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 24, 2016 01:22 PM (EnGQE)
Posted by: BignJames at September 24, 2016 01:27 PM (9RGU3)
Horsefeathers. Loving your neighbor IS loving God.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:29 PM (3myMJ)
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Good one. Very good.
(And it inspires me to reread the whole book!)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 01:30 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 01:32 PM (P8951)
The Dems think that Trump bullied his way to the nomination, so they'll have her talking tough. She's got to show that she's not physically weak and she's going to try to needle him into losing his temper.
The thing is that when Hill talks tough, she looks and sounds like a shrew. That will please shrewish feminists, but to most it will sound like nails on a blackboard.
As Fallon pointed out, Trump sounds much more mellow than he did in the primaries. As he gets more presidential and upbeat sounding, she gets more screechy.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 01:38 PM (P8951)
I am glad that we don't have to do a car inspection in Ohio, since my parking break on my 1999 dodge caravan doesn't work and fixing it probably costs more than the car is worth.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 24, 2016 01:39 PM (dKiJG)
To the media the intelligence of a public person is based entirely on the degree to which that person agrees with their prejudices. A person of courage is anyone who takes a stand on behalf of left wing positions--even though said stand will be universally praised by the media and will generate increased sales of their uniform and make it difficult for an organizaton (say a football team) to release them.
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 24, 2016 01:39 PM (hJrjt)
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This is a tax simply for owning property. We also have vehicle safety and emissions inspections which are another item altogether. The safety inspection is annual and the emissions is bi-annual.
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:43 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 24, 2016 01:44 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 24, 2016 01:44 PM (LeUrG)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:46 PM (Sfs6o)
Hasn't been such a bad day for us.
Posted by: A Number 1 Heat & AC at September 24, 2016 01:48 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2016 01:43 PM (Sfs6o)
I don't think I could afford to live there, Ohio just passed a law that makes red light cameras to be manned.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 24, 2016 01:49 PM (dKiJG)
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I have zero problem with that.
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 24, 2016 01:50 PM (bpfzP)
Also? "Gaia Weeps."
If a commercial enterprise had done this, imagine the fine.
For you, just a few centuries in Enviro-Purgatory.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 01:51 PM (H5rtT)
Clifton Clyde 74
Rural Vista 72
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (WoyGL)
Nothing more than offensive drills with shoulder pads.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 01:53 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 02:00 PM (2cS/G)
"Trying to love your neighbor without getting caught is a bitch!"
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 02:00 PM (44Kmm)
Clifton Clyde 74
Rural Vista 72
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 24, 2016 01:19 PM (WoyGL)
Nothing more than offensive drills with shoulder pads.
Look at big shot braggart Kansas and their 8 man teams!
-Small Town Texas 6 Man Football
Posted by: rickb223 at September 24, 2016 02:01 PM (44Kmm)
He also hid the rifle somewhere in the mall as he came in unarmed as shown in pics. So, some planning involved.
Whichever victim is female and closest to his age is probably the key to identifying him. Her family should know him.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:04 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 02:04 PM (2cS/G)
Oh, come on, she was begging for it. What's a guy to do?
Posted by: Thavidians 2.1 at September 24, 2016 02:07 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Lincolntf
______
They play six-man football in the western part of the state.
Posted by: Furious George at September 24, 2016 02:08 PM (57K5j)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:09 PM (kVBS6)
Gennifer Flowers?
Kathryn Willey?
Exhume Vince Foster?
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:11 PM (3myMJ)
Gennifer Flowers?
Kathryn Willey?
Exhume Vince Foster?
Posted by: Meremortal
__________
Zombie Marty Feldman
Posted by: Furious George at September 24, 2016 02:12 PM (57K5j)
DISGUSTING
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2016 12:54 PM (/4G+2)
He was trying out for the team but got benched.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2016 02:13 PM (auHtY)
Just back from my little camping trip. No shaving. I don't have a grey hair on my head but my whiskers grow in very salt and pepper when I let them go. I kinda like. Makes me feel like Robert Redford.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kVBS6)
The Clintons and many in their Inner Circle are steeped in this.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2016 02:15 PM (bQxkN)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 02:15 PM (2cS/G)
Or jihadi?
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
It's Juan
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2016 02:16 PM (auHtY)
Gennifer Flowers?
Kathryn Willey?
Exhume Vince Foster?
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:11 PM (3myMJ)
The fact that he tweeted that he will sit Jennifer Flowers next to Dopey Mark Cuban is brilliant.
Can't say I see one Republican even thinking about punching back like that.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 02:16 PM (ev02w)
Our betters don't care about your issues with the internet, prole. They have internet2. Runs ten times as fast.
Check the wiki. It's a thing.
Posted by: se pa moron at September 24, 2016 02:17 PM (ZFUt7)
Or jihadi?
Posted by: ThunderB at September 24, 2016 11:45 AM (qq4lq)
It's Juan Epstein Abdullah. He's Puerto Rican Mohammedan
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2016 02:16 PM (auHtY)
He has a grayish hue to his skin color found in Middle Eastern men receiving less sunlight than usual.
Hispanics do not have the grayish hue or tint of this guy in the picture.
Either way the guy is out of the country by now in Canada. Long Gone.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 02:19 PM (ev02w)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:20 PM (3myMJ)
Yeah, you'd have your line of 3 and your QB and then like.....a back and a receiver.......or a pair of ends.....or two receivers. Etc. QB is more involved in the run game than normal today.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:20 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2016 02:21 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Furious George at September 24, 2016 02:24 PM (57K5j)
A little Dostoyevsky gospel disputation, via Rhonda Vincent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkCqnbpyTZE
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2016 01:22 PM (H5rtT)
349 "Trying to love your neighbor without first loving God is satanic."
Horsefeathers. Loving your neighbor IS loving God.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 01:29 PM (3myMJ)
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Rhonda Vincent may be right that if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love God. This is a case of one thing naturally (and by divine command) following the other.
But Meremortal is wrong in his equation. Dead wrong--- or, as Dostoyevsky put it, satanic.
How can you do good to your neighbor (or yourself, for that matter) without any concept of the Good first?
Or are you just talking about squishy feeeelings?
Or maybe by "love" you mean writing a check. Money is the root of all good, right? It's pure loooove for you, your children, your neighbor!
Or maybe money isn't the sole good. Maybe love is creating a society where everyone will be wealthy and haaaappppy and never have their feeeeelings hurt.
And since you don't have to worry about loving God, you can forget about pesky things like Truth and objective reality.
You can also forget about a transcendent Good. You can do whatever you feeeel is "good" for your neighbor because you looooove them.
On and on and on. Straight to the gulag.
Because at some point, without loving God first, you will decide that there is really no reason beyond utility for "loving" your neighbor at all.
At first you will only rob and humiliate and imprison and kill "bad" people like me--- so you can looooove your neighbor.
Before long you won't even care about the supposed beneficiaries of your loooooooove. Because they will either go "bad" or will disappoint you.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 02:24 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 02:00 PM (2cS/G)
I just found out a few weeks ago that Texas has 6 man leagues. Gonna go watch one soon.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 24, 2016 02:25 PM (HYzy5)
In what state?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:25 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Furious George at September 24, 2016 02:28 PM (57K5j)
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:28 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 24, 2016 02:28 PM (2cS/G)
Will not do again.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:29 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:31 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 24, 2016 02:16 PM (ev02w)
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Did he really tweet that?!?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 02:32 PM (Nox3c)
Probably as close to being 'cool' as I ever got.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 02:32 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Furious George at September 24, 2016 02:34 PM (57K5j)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2016 02:35 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 24, 2016 02:36 PM (wPiJc)
We expect to be writing a letter to two deans this weekend, about how the incompetence of one of their professors will result in my daughter resigning a his course this semester, resulting her not getting her degree this semester, which will be a problem. The school will probably insist she pay for the course anyway.
As if his incompetence wasn't bad enough, he's rude and arrogant to the students as well, pointing the finger of blame at the whole class.
And if his incompetence and arrogance wasn't enough, we noticed that his many of his lecture slides were lifted from a web site. So while the second slide in his first lecture opined at length about not copying from others, because he WILL find out, and you will get an "F" on it, about a third of one of his OWN lectures was lifted from somebody ELSE, without attribution.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 24, 2016 02:37 PM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Afroman at September 24, 2016 02:37 PM (6QLnp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2016 02:35 PM (IqV8l)
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That's one of their stateside duties - to be on hand for civil unrest. If he doesn't like it, he can take it up with the Governor.
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 24, 2016 02:38 PM (bpfzP)
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump2h
If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!
Posted by: se pa moron at September 24, 2016 02:39 PM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2016 02:39 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 24, 2016 02:39 PM (kVBS6)
Posted by: HH at September 24, 2016 02:40 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 02:41 PM (Nox3c)
No, that's wrong too.
But there's so much wrong here it's not worth the time. Carry on.
Posted by: Meremortal... at September 24, 2016 02:41 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 24, 2016 02:42 PM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2016 02:43 PM (rwI+c)
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Wow. I'm so sorry - that sucks. I hope you can salvage something out of this mess.
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 24, 2016 02:44 PM (bpfzP)
If on smartphone. Probably
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
From computer. He has a couple zingers in there today.
He's definitely in attack mode.
Posted by: se pa moron at September 24, 2016 02:44 PM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2016 02:46 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2016 02:48 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2016 02:49 PM (rwI+c)
But I agree that this is not the forum for such arguments.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 02:49 PM (Nox3c)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
Is she another white chick masquerading as black?
Posted by: Snake Plisskin at September 24, 2016 02:51 PM (dtWKK)
I don't get this. The NG is there to protect the protestors from Nip.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2016 02:54 PM (rwI+c)
My people need to shop, dammit!
Posted by: Prezzy Lame Duck at September 24, 2016 02:59 PM (3myMJ)
Fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2016 03:13 PM (6FqZa)
I think Trump is brilliant to put Jennifer Flowers there, since Bill
Clinton will undoubtedly be in the house. I wonder if he has a free
ticket for Juanita? And Paula? and Katherine? I hope they all wear low
cut dresses and biiiiig smiles.
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hahahahah.
Effing Brilliant.
RE: The Queens health: no bathroom breaks. hot lights. Long coat to cover adult diapers. she will get overheated but not drink water. why? incontinence issues. so... she might pass out. unless they give her enough meds to reanimated hitler. which i don't doubt.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 24, 2016 03:15 PM (tvyXw)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 24, 2016 02:32 PM (Nox3c)
Yes he did. That is so great.
I never thought I would say this in the primaries, but I'm really starting to warm up to the man. I can't imagine any other Republican doing that.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 03:17 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 24, 2016 03:19 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Jeb! at September 24, 2016 03:24 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 24, 2016 02:44 PM (bpfzP)
Thanks! Who knows? Maybe they can come up with something she can do for the required credits, or transfer something up from undergrad. Or maybe we're just screwed.
They screwed up with the start of her graduate studies as well. They had "auto-admitted" her (which means she was admitted automatically, because she was Magna Cum Laude), but by the time classes started they had apparently forgotten all about it. It's an engineering dept run by a woman, so we were sure to throw how they try to encourage women to do engineering in their faces over it.
As to the current crisis, it makes for good humor. For example:
Dean: "Prof So-and-So, it appears you have lifted some material for you class from somebody else!"
Prof So-and-So: "Lifted? You mean, like with a fork lift?"
Posted by: Optimizer at September 24, 2016 03:25 PM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Jeb! at September 24, 2016 03:26 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: Jeb! at September 24, 2016 03:27 PM (d76uN)
First, let's remember that Cuban was kind of an asshole, playing it cool like he didn't know who he was going to support, as though any fence-sitter would climb on board with HER, with all the crookedness that's constantly coming out, the various crimes she committed, the catastrophic failures, etc.
But we also have that the Dems like to criticize Trump for being a billionaire reality TV star - just ... like ... Cuban. Cuban even played the role of POTUS in a movie (a spoof) fairly recently (Ann Coulter played his VP).
And we also have that Cuban will be there to cheer on Hillary, even though she's claiming that she's going to tax guys like him (who didn't "build that") into poverty. As though THAT'S going to happen - EVER. Hey, when you're a Dem parasite hooked on public money like a drug addict on crack, you'll listen to anything.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 24, 2016 03:35 PM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Optimizer at September 24, 2016 03:37 PM (EnK/R)
Well all righty then.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2016 04:26 PM (bQxkN)
With respect to any member of the elite, I offer one of the best lines from In The Heat Of The Night - "It would give me a world of satisfaction to horsewhip you (fill in name)!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2016 04:52 PM (PFcQG)
This is not how it is done. You are supposed to lose with grace!
Posted by: Jeb! at September 24, 2016 04:55 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 24, 2016 04:58 PM (WSLoU)
Posted by: CMU VET at September 24, 2016 05:01 PM (C+wjz)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2016 06:02 PM (n6rAX)
Yet he got a few favors at the time, then, only eight years later was he belatedly prosecuted, brought to trial. Hung jury, Retrial begins soon ... but I dealt first hand with the same gang of liars, and was told by lawyer "at least nobody got killed". I still (carefully) bring that up ... "so that is the new standard, our cartel committed several felonies, but be thankful we didn't murder you?"
The fish rots from the top down ... my counsel were liars, forgers, molesters ... my local contacts told me of their own cases where the lawyer class had royally screwed them, and of the "cartel" taking care of their own. We have to fight this ... to the death, since our forefathers fought in more direct ways.
55 million (mostly relatively innocent) died in WW2, fighting the kind of "fascist" crap that is embodied in the Clinton/DC Cartel. Both establishment parties have brought us to this point. Bush is with Her. Our last hope is that Trump really is with US, or internal war is next, it would seem.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2016 06:18 PM (n6rAX)
Another encouraging article on the state of the RNC ground game. I remember reading articles that gave a (false) hope for Romney in 2012 regarding Project Orca and the like, but hey. I'd like to believe the RNC can improve.
Posted by: Revenant at September 24, 2016 06:54 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: WTF Do I Know at September 24, 2016 07:11 PM (cmE8J)
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