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Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]
Return of the Prodigal Son
Rembrandt van Rijn
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwviDPo4Rh4
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 31, 2016 09:54 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 09:55 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at August 31, 2016 09:57 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: IC at August 31, 2016 09:57 AM (KTFfX)
Cool
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 09:57 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 09:58 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 09:59 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 09:59 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 31, 2016 10:00 AM (o9vm9)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2016 10:00 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Steve Buscemi's leg in wood chippa. at August 31, 2016 10:00 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:00 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 10:01 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2016 10:01 AM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 09:59 AM (Pby3z)
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He's going for passive aggressive judge-y.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:01 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2016 10:02 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2016 10:02 AM (X0y+B)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 09:58 AM (dFi94)
Amen and Amen!!!
The depth and breadth of God's forgiveness, and love for us is amazing. I hope everyone has a blessed and wonderful day to day.
How are you enjoying married life, grammie?? I hope you and your beloved are blissful!!
Posted by: Moki at August 31, 2016 10:02 AM (VnCI9)
Posted by: the prodigal son's father at August 31, 2016 10:03 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 10:03 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2016 10:05 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Steve Buscemi's leg in wood chippa. at August 31, 2016 10:05 AM (qUNWi)
goo.gl/3BuoaB
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:05 AM (X6fMO)
There once was a prodigal son
Who had a prodigal wife
And two prodigal dogs
And lived a prodigal life.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2016 10:06 AM (IqV8l)
377
310 Or anywhere else. The creation of DHS was typical
Bush 43; Whatever the problem is, the solution is creating a massive
Government bureaucracy.
Posted by: V the K at August 31, 2016 09:44 AM (O7MnT)
Bush
was a lot of things but he did not "create" DHS. That was a
recommendation from that rigged 9-11 commission. Bush was initially
against it but that asshole Karl Rove talked him into agreeing with to
it. In fact, that asshole Rove was probably responsible for a LOT of the
bad shit Bush did. But the act that created it was passed by a
Republican congress and he failed to veto it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2016 10:06 AM (mpXpK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asU6FXnHWus
"When God Ran"
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:07 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 10:03 AM (Pby3z)<<<
Shekel Shave Club.
Posted by: the prodigal son at August 31, 2016 10:07 AM (H9MG5)
Breitbart
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2016 10:01 AM (Ozsfq)
Heh. Nice touch. Maybe they can get a flyby over his position.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2016 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
In fact, that asshole Rove was probably responsible for a LOT of the
bad shit Bush did.
Where again does the buck stop?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2016 10:08 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 31, 2016 10:08 AM (nN7Mo)
Posted by: the prodigal son's father
That's kinda technically the first thing I saw, but I thought it was too pervy to mention.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 10:09 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2016 10:09 AM (iONHu)
I loved that piece.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 31, 2016 10:09 AM (SeD0w)
In fact, that asshole Rove was probably responsible for a LOT of the
bad shit Bush did.
Where again does the buck stop?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2016 10:08 AM (IqV8l)
I don't excuse Bush, I disliked a LOT of his shit, but you can not totally blame DHS on him.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2016 10:10 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Moki at August 31, 2016 10:02 AM (VnCI9)
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We aren't really in the same city as of yet, except for weekends. Hopefully soon our lives will converge a little more regularly. Upside is I haven't had to cook yet!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:10 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2016 10:09 AM (iONHu)
I give about 10 percent odds that the Mexicans will try to arrest him. It's not like they have rule of law or anything.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2016 10:10 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:00 AM (6IPEM)
Same here. It took a while to get it, like the one about the laborers in the vineyard.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:11 AM (hLRSq)
"When God Ran"
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:07 AM (dFi94)
Thanks for posting that, you never know when a song will move you, and this one made me cry, Mr. S is looking at me funny now.
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:11 AM (nyYhO)
Posted by: the prodigal son's father
That's kinda technically the first thing I saw, but I thought it was too pervy to mention.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Welcome to the club.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 10:11 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Phone of kari at August 31, 2016 10:12 AM (Iy6JT)
Posted by: No Bone Movies at August 31, 2016 10:12 AM (DHDiP)
He did a press thing yesterday. He's getting younger looking. Like Benjamin Button. He looks fifteen. I hope he can still throw footballs.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 10:12 AM (mgbwf)
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You're welcome. For me, it's always a punch in the gut. In a good way.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:13 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2016 10:13 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: PETA at August 31, 2016 10:13 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: bluebell at August 31, 2016 10:13 AM (805dc)
Being consort to a beautiful high maintenance woman does tend to drain your manly essence.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:14 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:14 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:15 AM (0mRoj)
Carrie Underwood, and Vince Gill
How Great Thou Art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX15hq2VxdQ
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:15 AM (nyYhO)
Imagine this painting in a den or study, where the viewer could spend hours contemplating the genius of the artist's technique and the parable until the two blend in his mind. It strikes me as a very private meditation.
The parable of the Prodigal Son has come up before. I understand the lessons but still think the older brother got screwed. He deserved his father's admiration and appreciation and there is nothing in the story to indicate that. Not that I'm projecting anything personal into the matter.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 10:16 AM (V+03K)
This is not my beautiful house!
And you my tell yourself
This is not my prodigal son!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:17 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2016 10:17 AM (zoehZ)
If that was true, I'd be drowning in female companionship right now.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:18 AM (X6fMO)
Carrie Underwood, and Vince Gill
How Great Thou Art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX15hq2VxdQ
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:15 AM (nyYhO)
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Oh gee now I'm going to start bawling and the cable guy is on his way
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:18 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:18 AM (1H9ox)
Sometimes I think the Muslims have a point.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo, also the oldest child at August 31, 2016 10:19 AM (nN7Mo)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August
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You too?
I'm the prodigal daughter waiting for my banquet with the fatted calf upon my return.
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:20 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:20 AM (1H9ox)
If that was true, I'd be drowning in female companionship right now.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:18 AM (X6fMO)
Well, I should have said "familial" but point taken.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:20 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:18 AM (dFi94)
I always felt like she had a very personal moment with God when she sang that song, and everyone around could feel it, truly amazing.
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:21 AM (nyYhO)
Posted by: Steve Buscemi's leg in wood chippa. at August 31, 2016 10:21 AM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2016 10:21 AM (2Mnv1)
Sometimes I think the Muslims have a point.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo, also the oldest child at August
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Okay, I laughed. That's so funny
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:21 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at August 31, 2016 10:22 AM (X0y+B)
I used to think the same thing, then I got it. The older son was always appreciated, was always there in his father's grace and favor. He had nothing to fear, certainly not rejection from the father unlike the younger son who had turned away.
Repentance is hard on your pride and filled with fear. Do not be afraid; if you repent and turn towards the father he will run to meet you; not with recriminations and accusation but love and celebration.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:22 AM (hLRSq)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asU6FXnHWus
"When God Ran"
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:07 AM (dFi94)
I tried. I really tried, but my testicles tried to kill themselves about 20 seconds in. Sorry.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
To me, this is the most beautiful parable in the New Testament. Layers
upon layers. Blessing upon blessing. You could make a study on this
parable alone for days. Thanks CBD!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 09:58 AM (dFi94)
Sorry for being late to the party. Grammie_winger - I agree with you. This is one of my favorite parables and I've spent a lot of time pondering it and how it applies to me and mine.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 31, 2016 10:23 AM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:24 AM (1H9ox)
31 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.'
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at August 31, 2016 10:24 AM (pc/kI)
Posted by: IC at August 31, 2016 09:57 AM (KTFfX)
Easier to accept, for those with no skin in the game, so to speak. Harder when it's personal, and frankly, nearly impossible for some, because the parable asks us to generalize to whole swaths of people.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:25 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 10:16 AM (V+03K)
Exactly.
I always enjoyed Rembrandt, in part because there seems to be a humor and gentleness in many of his paintings, especially his portraits and self-portraits.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2016 10:26 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 10:16 AM (V+03K)
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There are multiple lessons in this one story, and the some that the older brother represents are the sin of greed and lack of love. The older brother does not share the father's joy because he does not love the father, he cares only that he 'gets what is coming to him.' Note that in his complaint that he mentions that his father never gave HIM a celebration, "...yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might celebrate with my friends." Not with the father and his family, but with his friends. Very telling as to his contempt for his father.
In the very next line he shows his utter contempt for his repentant brother, "But when this son of yours came...."
Posted by: John the Baptist at August 31, 2016 10:26 AM (MPH+3)
Does the fact that the prodigious son only have one shoe on have (or is purported to have) some sort of symbolic meaning? Because it really jumps out at me.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:28 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: MTF at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (sQqgE)
31 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.'
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at August 31, 2016 10:24 AM (pc/kI)
Sounds like taking him completely for granted to me.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (0mRoj)
Does the fact that the prodigious son only have one shoe on have (or is purported to have) some sort of symbolic meaning? Because it really jumps out at me.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:28 AM (1H9ox)
It might just be intended to be an indicator that he has wandered and suffered.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Yeah, that was pretty bad. I lasted about 12 seconds.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (oJ4SX)
Think of him addressing the holier-than-thou's of his day with this part: Quit being ungrateful, you have yours and are assured of yours; try being happy that God is able to save the sinners.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:31 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 10:31 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2016 10:32 AM (Rh6FA)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 31, 2016 10:33 AM (SeD0w)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 31, 2016 10:33 AM (5Tck3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2016 10:34 AM (IqV8l)
I tried. I really tried, but my testicles tried to kill themselves about 20 seconds in. Sorry.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
I'm sorry, it didn't do anything for me, either. I never liked Benny Hester back in the day, and in fact, I think most Christian music in the 70s-80s was pretty crappy. And unfortunately this one was not an exception.
That Carrie Underwood rendition of How Great Thou Art was pretty good, though.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 10:34 AM (I9W/6)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 10:35 AM (FOwv0)
I'd say the Dad made his love for the older brother quite clear.
31 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and
everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad,
because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost
and is found.'
Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at August 31, 2016 10:24 AM (pc/kI)
yep....but sibling rivalry .... my girls are away at the same college, separate living arrangements....i text them both each day usually multiple times.....well....the older one was mad because she found out i sent the younger one ONE MOAR text than the other.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at August 31, 2016 10:35 AM (0O7c5)
Good.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 31, 2016 10:35 AM (LdMbv)
Sure. If he's inside at the time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:35 AM (X6fMO)
In the very next line he shows his utter contempt for his repentant brother, "But when this son of yours came...."
Posted by: John the Baptist at August 31, 2016 10:26 AM (MPH+3)
The older son does not yet understand, he is the one wandering the wilderness, not yet returned home. His celebration will come... when he gets it. IF he gets it.
Lest anyone forget, this parable, among other things, was an admonishment for those who would be resentful of the newcomers Jesus was welcoming into His Father's Kingdom.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:36 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2016 10:36 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2016 10:36 AM (Rh6FA)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:37 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Yeah, that was pretty bad. I lasted about 12 seconds.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (oJ4SX)
funny, I listened to it, and although I didn't care for his musical ability so much, for whatever the reason, the words/lyrics struck me enough to ignore the strange style.
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:37 AM (nyYhO)
I only became familiar with Vox Day about a month ago. Although I've had contact with his work without knowing it. He released a obscure PC game called The War in Heaven which my dad bought us for Christmas way back in 1999. I tried playing it but never truly got into it. My dad was hoping my mom would play it. A rather vain hope since my mom knows very little about computers, let alone pc games.
Link to Stefan - Vox Day alt-right discussion here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Wn0J0eC6I
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 31, 2016 10:38 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2016 10:36 AM (Rh6FA)
I'm guessing there will be a lot of commuting -- probably with a discreet USAF escort. All on our dime, of course.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2016 10:38 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2016 10:38 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 10:38 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 10:39 AM (THupw)
Yep, rented a mansion from a former Bill Clinton WH spokesman (Joe somebody) --- and it's less that 1000 ft from Iran's embassy!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 10:40 AM (NOIQH)
That would be the irony... Hillary! wins and Gaylord vainly waits by the phone in DC for her to call him about something. And she never does. In fact no one does.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2016 10:40 AM (Rh6FA)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:30 AM (0mRoj)
If you consider the father in the parable to be God, what you have then, is the older son essentially asking God "What have you done for me lately?"
That's, as they say, problematic.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:40 AM (TOk1P)
Score. It's a helluva drug.
Posted by: Golfman at August 31, 2016 10:41 AM (b6FQn)
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
I'm sure there are many other symbols and allusions in this painting that I don't perceive.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 10:41 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:41 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:41 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: OregonMuse
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I can't listen to her do Jesus Take The Wheel without getting goosebumps.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2016 10:42 AM (oJ4SX)
I'm kind of obsessed with the idea of roasted young goat.
Caprete, I think it's called in Italian. I've only had it once but it was awesome.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 10:42 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:43 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:37 AM (A1MMY)
The irony of course, is humanity, demanding what we deserve.
No, we do not get what we deserve. Instead, we get God's love. And mercy.
And yet still, we remain ungrateful...
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:43 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2016 10:43 AM (9krrF)
Henri Nouwen, a Catholic priest, was so enraptured with this painting that he travelled to St. Petersburg to sit and contemplate the masterpiece and its meaning. From this he wrote a very good book about prodigals which, if any moron in the horde has an interest, is a great book to not just read but also to contemplate.
Thanks for your posting!
Posted by: Arizona Mike at August 31, 2016 10:44 AM (rodck)
Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2016 10:44 AM (k3w9p)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2016 10:43 AM (9krrF)
Seems to me, many can't quite see beyond the literal, earthly father/son dynamic.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:45 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 31, 2016 10:38 AM (BDZWU)
Vox Day was created by the progressives. Because they have made a concerted effort to demonize their political opponents, and made civil discussion about issues reasonable men might disagree with impossible, the only men willing to go into the arena against them are combative men who like to fight, who say outrageous things and don't give a f*.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 10:46 AM (I9W/6)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:46 AM (1H9ox)
Yeah, sort of like:
"No justice, no peace!"
"Wait - I don't want justice!"
*puzzled voice* "You don't?"
"No - I want to be treated much better than I deserve!"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (hLRSq)
Healine is a bit misleading vs the video they show. Don't bother watching the video; there's nothing in it about his shirt. But check out the shirt.
http://tinyurl.com/ze56h2d
Posted by: Tami at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (ODxAs)
I felt so bad for him, even though I understand the point, the whole thing was so heartbreaking.
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (nyYhO)
Posted by: ajmojo
If you check the replay camera I clearly was a couple feet away.
Posted by: Corey Lewandowski at August 31, 2016 10:48 AM (ZFUt7)
and i don't want to start a fight, as my g-d is bigger badder than yours LOL
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:48 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Joe Biden, Buying a Venti Crappacino at August 31, 2016 10:48 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:46 AM (1H9ox)
I'd say some of both, but it's usually the parents' enabling that makes the worst of the situation.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:48 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2016 10:43 AM (9krrF)
The story is difficult because people take it literally instead of figuratively. It is a parable, a metaphor, for God's love for the repentant sinner.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:49 AM (hLRSq)
How it's taught now.
It took the Horde to open my eyes to the real meaning.
As BurtTC said,
"Lest anyone forget, this parable, among other things, was an admonishment for those who would be resentful of the newcomers Jesus was welcoming into His Father's Kingdom."
Too many leave it at the parable level with little to no explanation.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 10:49 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Golfman at August 31, 2016 10:49 AM (b6FQn)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:46 AM (1H9ox)
Rough estimate, from my experience, 8-9 out of 10 had terrible homes from which they escaped. The wandering is a direct result. Every now and then though, you encounter some person who spends a life of folly, and there is no apparent underlying cause, other than the individual's own bad choices.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 10:49 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 10:50 AM (8wEhr)
I felt so bad for him, even though I understand the point, the whole thing was so heartbreaking.
Posted by: sypeach at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (nyYhO)
That's always bothered me. God basically challenges the devil to a dick-measuring contest at the expense of a good man.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:50 AM (0mRoj)
fact, I think most Christian music in the 70s-80s was pretty crappy. And
unfortunately this one was not an exception.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 10:34 AM (I9W/6)
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I listen to a radio program on Sunday nights called Faith On Record. Christian music from the 70s, 80, and 90s. Most of it is embarassingly dreadful. HoneyTree? Really? But there are always a few gems that drop out of the dreck. In fact, I walked down the aisle to Keith Green.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:51 AM (dFi94)
Yeah, sort of like:
"No justice, no peace!"
"Wait - I don't want justice!"
*puzzled voice* "You don't?"
"No - I want to be treated much better than I deserve!"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (hLRSq)
Use every man according to his deserts and who should 'scape whipping?
Posted by: joncelli, Channeling Hamlet at August 31, 2016 10:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brother Cavil
Seems to me, many can't quite see beyond the literal, earthly father/son dynamic.
Posted by: BurtTC
Because most of the time one is taught to apply it to one's life.
When that happens, one tends to lean to the literal side.
And if you've ever seen it happen before......
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 10:52 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 10:50 AM (8wEhr)
We thought about it, but she just didn't fit our scheme.
Posted by: The Washington Redskins at August 31, 2016 10:53 AM (uiwCw)
The whole (((them))), thing, however, is something I believe is a newer development. Or maybe it isn't. I've been reading him since the WND days.
The former I don't believe is racist, the latter generally concerns secular Jews so I don't know how I'd categorize it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 10:53 AM (naCIf)
I would have liked a dictionary for a gift.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:54 AM (X6fMO)
But then he repented and was returned to the bosom of Metsdom where he regained his rightful spot as leadoff hitter for the Mets and his rejuvenated play will carry them to the postseason via the Wild Card.
All you ever needed to understand about life can be learned from being a Mets fan.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2016 10:55 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:54 AM (X6fMO)
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Me too. I used to read the dictionary on the toilet. That, and the Encyclopedia.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 10:55 AM (dFi94)
22Despite all this, Job did not sin, neither did he ascribe unseemliness to God.
insomniac a tough story for sure, the adversary is harsh, but G-d knew job would persevere and jobs response is amazing .
i think it is a story of hope within the mostg abject misery, but it doesn't really explain the victims jouneys end, but i presume perhaps wrongly they are all rewarded ??
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:56 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 10:50 AM (8wEhr)
I guess Uncle Rico is still working through that rotator cup injury. Too bad, he's got such a gift.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 31, 2016 10:57 AM (RwwCT)
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at August 31, 2016 10:57 AM (pZEKq)
Yeah. He writes a lot of stuff that gets the correct general historical flow, but he's got a couple of bees in his bonnet on Jews and on race v culture that kinda screws it all up for me.
Posted by: JEM at August 31, 2016 10:57 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: grammie winger
I used to lay the books down on the table at the library, but hey, whatever floats your boat
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2016 10:57 AM (326rv)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 10:46 AM (1H9ox)
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I always think of King Lear, as the father learns as well as his children.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2016 10:57 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:58 AM (A1MMY)
Why is that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:58 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 10:58 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 10:59 AM (V+03K)
http://tinyurl.com/hbgc5gu
Discuss among yourselves.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2016 10:47 AM (ODxAs)
Actually, that looks kind of like Hurricane Van Gogh.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:00 AM (I9W/6)
point a to b is a road to travel. and some can't travel recovery as we would wish.
soo, we try to shorten he steps to he end result hoping ?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:00 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: grammie winger
I used to have to copy parts of sections for screwing up in school. I remember the "O" section quite well.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:00 AM (XMGl9)
Why is that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 31, 2016 10:58 AM (6IPEM)
Because we are talking about different things. In the parable the prodigal son *repented* his past behavior and sought forgiveness from the father. He already had the *tough love* part if you read the parable closely, and had made the change.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 11:02 AM (hLRSq)
or am i mixing stories here?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:03 AM (A1MMY)
In other words Michelle will stay in DC while he plays golf in Hawaii and travels to other places to give speeches and play golf?
This is my shocked face.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 31, 2016 11:04 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:05 AM (KihF+)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 11:02 AM (hLRSq)
what he said
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:05 AM (A1MMY)
I still have the dictionary, complete with an inscription from my mom. My brother's fish finder was obsolete a decade ago.
Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2016 11:05 AM (k3w9p)
I still collect old dictionaries and old encyclopedias - I even have a set of Britannica from the 1920s - but I don't get the same joy out of opening a page at random and discovering something as I did when I was younger. I don't know whether that's because I've grown cynical, depressive or have burned out my attention span with alcohol. Probably a little bit of all three.
That being said, I really would like to buy the two-volume set of the Oxford English Dictionary.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:06 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 31, 2016 11:06 AM (BK3ZS)
Sure. If he's inside at the time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 10:35 AM (X6fMO)
I believe the latest Democrat grifters have a friend who bought the old estate where Magnum PI was filmed. It had been vacant for a few years and had really fallen into disrepair. The rumor is that the Obama's will be vacationing there whenever they are not in DC, agitating and attending every cocktail party, and fund raiser. Or in NYC, schmoozing the UN for Barry's next faux leadership position.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 31, 2016 11:07 AM (Povcw)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:07 AM (dFi94)
when i hear , 'but he was such a good boy/girl' i do take a moment and know where that parent is at.
because i do.
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:08 AM (A1MMY)
O/T but, the gun grabbing, begun it has.
http://tinyurl.com/ht6p6l3
ATF surprise announced smokless gunpowders as a "high explosive".
This will require all storage points along the production chain and distribution chain to treat smokeless powder like dynamite. Blast vaults, special shipping requirements, blast vaults at THE POINT OF SALE.
Hell, even manufactured ammunition would be considered a high explosive.
THis is NOT good news.
Gawddammit.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:08 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:06 AM (X6fMO)
I bought Mrs. Muse the photo-reduced single volume OED as a Christmas present years ago.. It comes with a magnifying lens so you can read the amazingly tiny print.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:09 AM (I9W/6)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:09 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 11:11 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 11:11 AM (Oy7w+)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (QcJlo)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (A1MMY)
I still collect old dictionaries and old encyclopedias - I even have a set of Britannica
from the 1920s - but I don't get the same joy out of opening a page at
random and discovering something as I did when I was younger. I don't
know whether that's because I've grown cynical, depressive or have
burned out my attention span with alcohol. Probably a little bit of all
three.
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MP4 -- I love old dictionaries and encyclopedia. One of my greatest finds is a 1932 Roget's. My go-to for a lot of things because they also include the Latin and Greek original sayings. Just reading along or looking something up, there you are with the assumption that every educated person knows Latin and a little Greek.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:07 AM (dFi94)
( *cough* )Hophni and Phinehas( *cough* )
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (I9W/6)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (A1MMY)
Does that make me like half prodigal son/ half Dr Phil or something?
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (QcJlo)
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On line, retail, gun shows, hell, even reloaders are gonna get scalped.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:09 AM (A1MMY)
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In a lot of instances, it seems like the fathers were really good at being king or being a prophet, but totally neglected their kids, or turned a blind eye to their screwing around. Maybe when you're the son of a prophet, you figure you can get away with stuff. And some of those dads seemed to just not care.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (dFi94)
somebody) --- and it's less that 1000 ft from Iran's embassy!!<<
.
We lived a block away from the Iranian embassy in London in 1980. Fun times.
Posted by: Javems at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (yOqwj)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:09 AM (I9W/6)
OM, I presume you've read the story of how the OED came into being, The Professor and the Madman?
goo.gl/yj92dc
**looks at clock, realizes still four more hours to go**
I think I'll go for a cup of tea. BBL.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:14 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:08 AM (8XRCm)
According to the article, it only affects the storage of nitrocellulose, one component of powder and there is only one manufacturer of that component in the USA. Who supplies the military.
Even the article's author says it will affect nothing.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 31, 2016 11:15 AM (Povcw)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (1H9ox)
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I think it makes you a happy well-balanced person. What a good outcome, for both of you.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:15 AM (dFi94)
I can send beef jerky (I'm drying tequila/lime recipe now).if a gratuity is required.
Posted by: Goomba at August 31, 2016 11:16 AM (5ThVX)
Sweet. Then they'll have to outlaw it straight out, or make dynamite available Home Depot.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:16 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:16 AM (A1MMY)
This will require all storage points along the production chain and distribution chain to treat smokeless powder like dynamite. Blast vaults, special shipping requirements, blast vaults at THE POINT OF SALE.
....
Apparently you have not been paying attention to the epidemic of people being killed by exploding boxes of .22LR throughout the country. We must keep the children safe!!!
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:16 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 11:11 AM (V+03K)
Amazon has a twenty volume set for $1500.00.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:17 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (A1MMY)
I think the point was to do it mindfully. Kind of like going from Ten Commandments to two. Fulfilling the intent rather than simply the letter.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 11:17 AM (Oy7w+)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2016 11:18 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (I9W/6)
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Yeah, they were kind of the poster children of FAIL.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:18 AM (dFi94)
That makes you a human with an interesting story. Tell more if you are so inclined.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 11:19 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 11:02 AM (hLRSq)
Yep. Many people have family members fighting addictions. Those family members, while still in the battle, will use and destroy, sometimes anyone/anything in their reach.
If you love that person, you HAVE to stay out of their reach, not because you don't love them, but because you MUST protect yourself, lest you be destroyed to the point of never being in a position to be there for them, if... I did not say when, I said IF they ever return. Really return.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 11:20 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 11:11 AM (Oy7w+)
The elder son - the firstborn - are the Jews. The prodigal son are the gentiles. The Jews aren't to be upset that God is welcoming in the gentiles for they already know they have their place and are loved.
How about that one?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 11:21 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 11:22 AM (TmVQX)
Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2016 11:22 AM (1o+GE)
It is also an explanation for those that feel that they are unappreciated for trying to do right when all around them are sinning their ass off with no consequences.
The one parable I turn to when I feel that way is the one where the property owner hires people in the morning for $20 to work for the day. The owner continues to hire people all the way up until almost the end of the work day for the same $20. The morning workers are upset to which the owner reminds them that they happily agreed to the $20 as more than fair so why should it matter if he decides to pay these others the same.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 31, 2016 11:23 AM (pnA/u)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zvn4l7b
Full court press by the fascists.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Syrfer at August 31, 2016 11:23 AM (m3iiU)
What is hateful to you, do not do to others; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn. so it still seems effort is required..
?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:24 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 11:11 AM (Oy7w+)
Yep, Jesus was pretty darned clear on that point. You can be a Pharisee, go right ahead, follow the law to the letter, but if you are hollow inside, you are missing the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 11:24 AM (TOk1P)
If anyone else had done such a thing ...
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:26 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2016 11:26 AM (1o+GE)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:16 AM (1H9ox)
Read the article, folks. The ATF is NOT declaring smokeless powder high explosives and requiring new storage protocol. It is declaring nitrocellulose, even wetted, to be a problem, and even says that variances to new storage protocol may be permitted if need can be demonstrated.
Wiki has a decent explaination of nitrocellulose, including it's uses in photography, cellulose film, etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 31, 2016 11:26 AM (Povcw)
...
Nah. It involves booze, drugs, loose women, criminal undertones, fast cars, shady and irredeemable characters, and bursts of shocking violence, all played out against a hazy rust belt background with an amazing soundtrack.
It would bore you.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:26 AM (1H9ox)
++++
Job's punishments are a recapitulation of Deut. 28. His redemption is akin to Isaiah's suffering servant. Look at it as a narrative version.
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (THupw)
If anyone else had done such a thing ...
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:26 AM (JBggj)
Alas, she's probably already gotten some of our assets killed. If that wasn't enough to give her a perp walk then this won't be either.
Posted by: joncelli, Channeling Hamlet at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:12 AM (QcJlo)
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On line, retail, gun shows, hell, even reloaders are gonna get scalped.
Posted by: fixerupper
****
And our military will have shortages as well for the same reasons. I hope this does not stand.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Syrfer at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:05 AM (KihF+)
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Is there a link to this? Was it something that played out on teh twitter?
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (BDZWU)
What is hateful to you, do not do to others; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn. so it still seems effort is required..
?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:24 AM (A1MMY)
Same thing as the prostitute, about to be stoned.
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...
So, none of you? Alrighty then! As to you, young lady, your sins are forgiven.
Now, go AND SIN NO MORE!!
Often we remember the whole stony part, and forget the "now knock it off with the sinnin' business" part.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (TOk1P)
That's the laborers in the vineyard. It does not matter when you start to work in the (God's) vineyard, be it early, noon or late in the day (your life) you will receive the same pay (salvation).
Be not afraid, just come to God with a repentant heart.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (hLRSq)
I am betting they are both off playing the grifter jet setters. Mrs. Robinson (Robertson), will finally have to earn her keep and be left to keep the political base camp fire burning and tend to the schooling of girl Sasha.
Posted by: gracepc at August 31, 2016 11:28 AM (OU4q6)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:28 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:28 AM (1H9ox)
It would bore you.
Loose wimmen you say?
Posted by: Steve Buscemi's leg in wood chippa. at August 31, 2016 11:28 AM (qUNWi)
clintonemail dot com account months after leaving her Foggy Bottom job.
============================================
Does anyone know who she emailed this classified document to?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 31, 2016 11:29 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:29 AM (A1MMY)
....
In my house that is referred to as a "Weenie Flop".
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:29 AM (1H9ox)
Trying to wrap my head around deep fried jello and the fact that there were 1.1 million Republican votes to 696k Democrat votes in the Florida Senate primaries yesterday.
Hope that translates to November!
Posted by: ALH at August 31, 2016 11:30 AM (uLuPn)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:30 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:31 AM (A1MMY)
from the 1920s - but I don't get the same joy out of opening a page at
random and discovering something as I did when I was younger. I don't
know whether that's because I've grown cynical, depressive or have
burned out my attention span with alcohol. Probably a little bit of all
three.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:06 AM
I have an 1812 edition of Dr. Johnson's dictionary (Dictionary II: Return of the Killer Dictionary). It's a hoot to read. Some of the definitions are priceless. To wit, "mouse": "the tiniest of beasts, frequently haunting farmhouses and cornfields".
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 31, 2016 11:31 AM (bzd8I)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (THupw)
I do understand not caring for how the Job story is told. However, there's an element of it that occurs to me, which is that God does not have the ability to prevent Satan from gumming things up. So it's not so much God giving Satan free reign, and admonishing Satan to realize he has no power over good.
Yes, Job gets put through heck, so to speak, but I don't see that as God's doing. Other than having created the universe in which Satan exists.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 11:31 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 11:32 AM (8wEhr)
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Yes.
LINK (via Drudge NY Post): http://preview.tinyurl.com/js84fje
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:33 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at August 31, 2016 11:33 AM (pZEKq)
...
One drove an Iroc-z with T-tops that her teased up bangs would stick out of. Her name was Kym (went by Kymee). She had a saint bernard that rode in the passenger seat with her. I can verify she blew a roadie to get backstage at the Monsters of Rock tour.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:33 AM (1H9ox)
i hate it, but i think that did happen
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:33 AM (A1MMY)
163
ATF surprise announced smokless gunpowders as a "high explosive".
This will require all storage points along the production chain and distribution chain to treat smokeless powder like dynamite. Blast vaults, special shipping requirements, blast vaults at THE POINT OF SALE.
Hell, even manufactured ammunition would be considered a high explosive.
THis is NOT good news.
Gawddammit.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:08 AM (8XRCm)
400 rounds of 6.8 SPC being delivered today. Need to order .223 and x39 in mass quantities ASAP.
Gawddammit pretty much covers it!
Posted by: Spun and Murky at August 31, 2016 11:34 AM (4DCSq)
This is not my beautiful house!
And you my tell yourself
This is not my prodigal son!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 10:17 AM (0mRoj)
That was literally the exact same place my mind went. I read the Steve Buscemi post in David Byrne's voice for some reason and was going to adapt this painting to Once In a Lifetime but you beat me to it.
Posted by: 0302 at August 31, 2016 11:35 AM (wx6iv)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:35 AM (fzHss)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Syrfer at August 31, 2016 11:35 AM (m3iiU)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:36 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 11:27 AM (THupw)
I do understand not caring for how the Job story is told. However, there's an element of it that occurs to me, which is that God does not have the ability to prevent Satan from gumming things up. So it's not so much God giving Satan free reign, and admonishing Satan to realize he has no power over good.
Yes, Job gets put through heck, so to speak, but I don't see that as God's doing. Other than having created the universe in which Satan exists.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2016 11:31 AM (TOk1P
I learned God allows suffering because those that are blessed have a duty to be show empathy and charity towards those who suffer.
The USA has fallen off a cliff in that department towards our own countrymen and Christians across the world.
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 11:36 AM (8wEhr)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 11:37 AM (m3iiU)
grimaces.
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:37 AM (A1MMY)
goo.gl/yj92dc
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:13 AM (X6fMO)
Yes, and as a matter of fact, I think this is one of Mil Gibson's upcoming film projects.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 11:37 AM (I9W/6)
I may not agree with everything the guy says/writes, but like RS McCain, he is a warrior who is willing to call out all of the Left's ugliness openly and often. He's the LIB version of other less polarizing people on the right, such as Larry Correia, who are still trying to de-Left systems/the culture from the inside.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:38 AM (NOIQH)
Now, go AND SIN NO MORE!!
Just be back here next Saturday to go to confession again!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:38 AM (XMGl9)
distribution chain to treat smokeless powder like dynamite. Blast
vaults, special shipping requirements, blast vaults at THE POINT OF
SALE.
==============
Wait until you get your next homeowner insurance policy.
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:39 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:39 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 11:39 AM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (THupw)
better go wash floors.
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (OFb3N)
Posted by: IC at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (a0IVu)
....
Smack that b#*ch up
Posted by: Prodigy at August 31, 2016 11:41 AM (1H9ox)
....
Yes. Once the penile implant is complete the transition to male will be complete.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:43 AM (1H9ox)
huh?
where'd you get that?
do you mean he wasn't painting all the details? or that he wasn't pressing 300 lbs as made famous in the rembrandt letters?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 11:43 AM (WTSFk)
IIRC he went vegan, which a study said reduces a man's sperm count.
Also pretty metrosexual given his wife's effect on his styling and fashion (is metrosexual still a thing, or has that been supplanted by the 31+ diff genders?)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:44 AM (NOIQH)
That's a pretty standard boy haircut. Brady is prettier than most girls, but he's married a girl so pretty that she earns more than a guy who's won 4 Super Bowls.
I don't think transitioning is in the cards.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2016 11:44 AM (mgbwf)
Gary Sinise tweeted back because they don't trust Democrats. Perfect.
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 11:44 AM (TmVQX)
I took the road less travelled thinking outside the box approach on this one.
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 11:46 AM (8wEhr)
*John McCain wins primary in Arizona by large margin
*George Soros email leaks detail plan to federalize police force
Oh wait, that's not gonna cheer anyone up.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2016 11:46 AM (Efjsd)
grimaces.
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:37 AM (A1MMY)
All his kids getting killed? Yeah, that's a little hard to stomach.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 11:46 AM (0mRoj)
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That ties in with the parable of the Good Samaritan. Something to do with strong-arm robbery, as I recall.
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:47 AM (JBggj)
....
Smack that b#*ch up
Restore the family honor!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:48 AM (XMGl9)
*John McCain wins primary in Arizona by large margin
*George Soros email leaks detail plan to federalize police force
Oh wait, that's not gonna cheer anyone up.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2016 11:46 AM (Efjsd)
At that point "Fuck Da Police" should finally become a popular song with conservatives.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 11:48 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: IC at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (a0IVu
He is auditioning for a full time role as receiver of Jeffery Epsteins Pedo Island.
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 11:49 AM (8wEhr)
"Sure, I'll write a definition of 'fellatio.'
But first. . ."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:49 AM (X6fMO)
Gary Sinise tweeted back because they don't trust Democrats. Perfect.
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 11:44 AM (TmVQX)
We also still have earthly assholes to contend with.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 11:49 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 11:50 AM (m3iiU)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:51 AM (XMGl9)
WTH - is that mean to say: "Hey, you believe you're going to heaven, so why defend yourself from an untimely death?"
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:51 AM (NOIQH)
"Sure, I'll write a definition of 'fellatio.'
But first. . ."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 11:49 AM (X6fMO)
Wasn't Fellatio a minor character in Romeo and Juliet?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 11:51 AM (0mRoj)
Gary Sinise tweeted back because they don't trust Democrats. Perfect.
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 11:44 AM
So, would this be a snarky, tacit admission that Democrats have no such belief? Noted.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 31, 2016 11:52 AM (bzd8I)
Fellatio, Fellatio! Wherefore art thou Fellatio!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 11:53 AM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 11:50 AM (m3iiU)
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Even if it could..... they couldnt receive shipments of powder to make more.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:54 AM (8XRCm)
i would bet that those who denounce impressionism here haven't spent more than 7 seconds looking at an actual painting.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 11:54 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2016 11:54 AM (2Mnv1)
What an asinine comment.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 11:55 AM (6HqlZ)
Trump 45.3%
Clinton 41.9%
Also on Drudge, link to USA Today article on what would happen if one of the candidates dies.
Between this and the talk of DHS taking over responsibility for the election, is anyone else getting the idea that Obama/Soros/Clinton and co. are doing some serious "thinking outside of the box" brainstorming about how best to stop Trump?!?
Geez.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:56 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: IC at August 31, 2016 11:40 AM (a0IVu
Hmmm...from older photos, his hairline was receding and now, PRESTO, CHANGE-O, it's not so maybe the new do masks some hair plugs or an expert weave?
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at August 31, 2016 11:56 AM (oQQwD)
Trump 45.3%
Clinton 41.9%
Posted by: rickb223
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FWIR, LA Times was pretty innacurate as far as polls and actual elections results. I wouldn't get too excited.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 11:56 AM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 11:56 AM (TmVQX)
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She and Huma need to have a long talk.
Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2016 11:57 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:57 AM (A1MMY)
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Because the slavation of God saves my soul.
I am responsible for protecting my earthly body.
You used to be a Methodist. You should know this.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 11:57 AM (8XRCm)
>>>
Why do Democrats who believe in welfare need jobs?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2016 11:58 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 11:58 AM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:58 AM (A1MMY)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (WTSFk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (R2Osi)
Yeah, as if to say "just go ahead and die, Christians."
In addition to regular crime, there is an active Christian genocide in too many countries to keep track. Can you imagine them tweeting: "Why do African-Americans who believe in the salvation of God need guns?"or "Why do college women who believe in the salvation of God need campus rape prevention policies?"
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (NOIQH)
107 That Carrie Underwood rendition of How Great Thou Art was pretty good, though.
Posted by: OregonMuse
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I can't listen to her do Jesus Take The Wheel without getting goosebumps.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2016 10:42 AM (oJ4SX)
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When Carrie Underwood is mentioned, all I can think about are screen doors in a hurricane.
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (Fmupd)
Snippet one, Chris Hodgdon of the eponymous powder company says there has been no change that will affect the consumer market (presumably to include loaded ammo as well as components).
Snippet two, an ATF statement on the matter includes this at the end - "However, based upon the diminished likelihood of wetted nitrocellulose exploding, ATF will consider variance requests to store the wetted material under an alternative arrangement." (this could = no change)
Apparently "private letters" or specific explanations of policy from ATF have been the basis for much of the status quo approach to these things since forever, so granting variance requests also sounds like standard current practice.
But - that we even have to consider as plausible a capricious regulatory change that would devastate an entire field of activity (pertaining to an expressly enumerated constitutional right) - and we do - pretty much sums up the state of the rule of law, constitutionalism, and the American mindset in 2016.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (QDnY+)
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Wow. What naked hate and contempt she displays. She is evil.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 12:00 PM (m3iiU)
if not why did she go to syria, lybia, but more
why is she giving terrorists guns?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:00 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 12:00 PM (Oy7w+)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (8XRCm)
To protect ourselves from those who don't....
Posted by: Tami at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Toni Brady at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (8wEhr)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (R2Osi)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:01 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 11:57 AM (A1MMY)
Also consider - the US has about 11,000 firearm related homicides a year, but 1.2 million abortions a year. So over 100 times as many people are murdered every year by abortionists than people with guns.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (0mRoj)
If the father were a Democrat, he'd say, go forth and live prodigally, and I will fund you from your brother's inheritance. If he complains I will mock him as being greedy and unloving.
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (Pby3z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (6HqlZ)
not to protect but to steal their goodies?
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (A1MMY)
http://tinyurl.com/zewbbz3
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (ri6gW)
I anticipated something like: ' only elected officials should be speaking with foreign heads of state !! Trump has no right to represent America !!'
Posted by: McCool at August 31, 2016 12:03 PM (TQxRy)
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at August 31, 2016 12:04 PM (ri6gW)
Yeah, as if to say "just go ahead and die, Christians."
In addition to regular crime, there is an active Christian genocide in too many countries to keep track. Can you imagine them tweeting: "Why do African-Americans who believe in the salvation of God need guns?"or "Why do college women who believe in the salvation of God need campus rape prevention policies?"
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (
Ace covered the shift in thinking among Americans and our leaders a couple of weeks ago when he was in the blogging zone
I call it the Fuck Off And Die mentality.
Posted by: Pepe at August 31, 2016 12:04 PM (8wEhr)
Posted by: lancewing plover revival at August 31, 2016 12:04 PM (R2Osi)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:04 PM (A1MMY)
Trump is a Racist, he bungles his speech.... oh the humanity of it all....CNN reports with glee.
Posted by: Colin at August 31, 2016 12:05 PM (hIWCG)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 11:59 AM (QDnY+)
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Then I must beg the question "Why did the BATFE make the classification change in the first place"?
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:05 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:06 PM (1H9ox)
speaking with foreign heads of state !! Trump has no right to represent
America !!'
Jesse Jackson says "Whaaaat???"
>>Ace covered the shift in thinking among Americans and our leaders a couple of weeks ago when he was in the blogging zone. I call it the Fuck Off And Die mentality.
Ah, forgot about that one!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2016 12:06 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: McCool at August 31, 2016 12:03 PM (TQxRy)
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**lays down the Jimmy Carter Card
**lays down the Jesse Jackson Card
Pair of Jokers. I win.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:07 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: McCool at August 31, 2016 12:07 PM (TQxRy)
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Wow. What naked hate and contempt she displays. She is evil.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 12:00 PM (m3iiU)
One of my favorite Homer Simpson quotes.
'When I held that gun in my hand I felt a surge of power...like what God must feel when he's holding a gun.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (pnA/u)
It's a common characteristic of people coming from the Department of State.
Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Geddy Lee at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (0mRoj)
"why does the party of espousing for the"
And memes are born.....
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (XMGl9)
Because no career manager has ever went to a meeting and said "These policies are perfect. Don't change a damn thing."
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (DPv+O)
If Trump gave the President of Mexico a taco bowl from Trump Tower.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 12:09 PM (Oy7w+)
Then I must beg the question "Why did the BATFE make the classification change in the first place"?
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:05 PM (8XRCm)
Well, from the link you provided, it's not altogether clear that there in fact has been a classification change. They say that bulk nitrocellulose with nitrogen content in excess of 12.6% has been classified as "high explosive" for some time. Bulk nitrocellulose, not manufactured powder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2016 12:10 PM (oqkO3)
Because no career manager has ever went to a meeting and said "These policies are perfect. Don't change a damn thing."
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (DPv+O)
Also the Association of Thickwitted Fascists is well-known for making shit up as they go.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:10 PM (0mRoj)
it aint me
i aint no prodigal son
Posted by: lancewing plover revival
Golf clap for CCR.
By the way, there's a bathroom on the right.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:10 PM (XMGl9)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:02 PM (0mRoj)
Well... Doctors misdiagnosis and bad prescriptions kill at least 400,000 people a year..
But the Dems are fixing that! Because with Obamacare you won't be able to see that Doctor who will kill you!
Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (Pby3z)
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (DPv+O)
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Yeah. Well.... sorry .... but.... never trust the guys that says "We're going to change this rule, but dont worry, we won't enforce it"
NEVER trust that guy.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (8XRCm)
I mean it looks like the first thing that the prodigal son did was drop to his knees and blow his father. I don't get it.
Posted by: Drider at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:04 PM (A1MMY)
No question about that.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:12 PM (WTSFk)
I mean it looks like the first thing that the prodigal son did was drop to his knees and blow his father. I don't get it.
Posted by: Drider at August 31, 2016 12:11 PM (6Xbsz)
Rembrandt was actually from San Francisco.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (0mRoj)
They're all clothed. It's interesting that that's the first thing that would come to mind
He's throwing himself at his father's feet in penitence and love.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: Custard at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (QvdcM)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:12 PM (WTSFk)
I prefer the one who's on time.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Carmen at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (RHjCR)
Posted by: Custard at August 31, 2016 12:13 PM (QvdcM)
Not all parental attention is good. Trust me on this.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (0mRoj)
310 Hillary tweeted that why do Republicans who believe in the salvation of God need guns
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Wow. What naked hate and contempt she displays. She is evil.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 12:00 PM (m3iiU)
One of my favorite Homer Simpson quotes.
'When I held that gun in my hand I felt a surge of power...like what God must feel when he's holding a gun.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (pnA/u)
Well Hillary.... one of the very LAST things Jesus ever said to his disciples, was
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Colin at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (hIWCG)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (A1MMY)
Christians will be denied chemo because hey, afterlife.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)
True. But even non-fascist people in power regularly make things worse, not better. It's the nature of those who seek power. They intend to use it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (DPv+O)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (DPv+O)
You'll get no argument from me.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2016 12:16 PM (0mRoj)
Sometimes I think the Muslims have a point.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo, also the oldest child at August 31, 2016 10:19 AM (nN7Mo)
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The younger brother illustrates a point about the scripture to be written. Jesus will be many, many years younger, and further down the chain, than so many who served the Lord, and yet he is the sole heir of God.
The Lord would reverse the conventional, natural order, and he illustrated this theme through repetition.
Posted by: Axeman at August 31, 2016 12:16 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:17 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 31, 2016 12:17 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 12:17 PM (R2Osi)
I don't have 10% of the expertise to give a confident quick take on the matter, just sharing some data points I've come across.
My point about us being in an unimaginable situation where things/scares like this have any plausibility at all stands. To which I'll add the standard comment that if only the country had an opposition party and maybe even rule of law and actual courts, nothing like this would be of any concern.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:18 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 12:19 PM (6HqlZ)
312 309 Gah ! no Rush today..
Posted by: McCool at August 31, 2016 12:07 PM (TQxRy)
What!?
Posted by: Geddy Lee at August 31, 2016 12:08 PM (0mRoj)
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He does take a lot of time off this time of year. He's probably trying to get rested up a bit for the after-Labor-day election push.
I also think he's getting tired. It happens the older one gets. And it's probably been intensified by the fractiousness of this election season. I think he's being hit by all sides this time around. It's got to be fatiguing to the psyche.
I also think he knows this nation is in a death spiral.
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)
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Clothed doesn't mean anything. One of the most mind blowing "experiences" I've ever had involved an Asian girl in Vegas who made me feel things I had never felt before. I was clothed and she used only her rib cage and stomach. Aaaandd...BRB
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:19 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:19 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:20 PM (DPv+O)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:06 PM (1H9ox)
Why do feminists that believe women are superior and need special laws, safe spaces, protections if they are strong, empowered women?
FIFY.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 31, 2016 12:20 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:20 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 12:21 PM (6HqlZ)
So I have some ammo on the way.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 12:21 PM (m3iiU)
I also think he's getting tired. It happens the older one gets. And it's probably been intensified by the fractiousness of this election season. I think he's being hit by all sides this time around. It's got to be fatiguing to the psyche.
I also think he knows this nation is in a death spiral.
If I had half of Rush's money, I'd have been gone years ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:22 PM (XMGl9)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfer at August 31, 2016 12:21 PM (m3iiU)
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Good thing I bought two eight pound jugs of CSB-1 a week ago.
;-)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:22 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:23 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:14 PM (A1MMY)
And Muslims certainly don't need to come to America as refugees. Take it up with Allah, bros. He's the one who put you in that Muslim shithole in the first place.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 31, 2016 12:23 PM (SRKgf)
Yes, they were fine. I guess I'm not into the wisenheimer comments today so maybe another thread will be better..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2016 12:23 PM (6HqlZ)
the preferred usage is 'massive tub of goo' or sometimes 'Torrid customer-- not model, customer'
seriously though Torrid has some attractive non-skinny models
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 12:23 PM (R2Osi)
...
Here in IL they just proposed putting serial numbers on bullets.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:24 PM (1H9ox)
:::puffs thoughtfully on briar pipe wearing deerstalker cap:::
Sounds like a tranny...
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2016 12:24 PM (Oy7w+)
origin of the word 'dildo'
fleshlights
wild goats
blow jobs
pooping cats
fart jokes
kittehs
bewbs
art
Biblical parables
...and this is why I live here.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 12:24 PM (I9W/6)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (A1MMY)
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:23 PM (QDnY+)
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Ditto.
Im sure there are lawmakers so ignorant of the topic that they would be appalled to find out you can buy smokeless powder over the counter and actually MAKE your own ammo.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (8XRCm)
I used up a 5-lb jug of that stuff just recently - love it. Based on that experience I got some Universal as my back-up reserve powder.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:24 PM (1H9ox)
I suppose we're lucky they didn't also want to put on unique IP addresses.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2016 12:26 PM (I9W/6)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:27 PM (A1MMY)
good times
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 12:27 PM (R2Osi)
S/N won't do shit in a revolver. And do even less on anything less than a Kennedy "pristine" boolit.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:27 PM (XMGl9)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:28 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:28 PM (XMGl9)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 31, 2016 12:28 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (1H9ox)
Good to know. If I plan to murder anybody in Illinois, I will file the serial number off the slug.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2016 12:28 PM (oqkO3)
Gun refuses to fire because Pixy banned the IP address.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:29 PM (XMGl9)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:29 PM (A1MMY)
FNC needs to do some soul searching themselves.
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2016 12:29 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:30 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:30 PM (A1MMY)
why ask why? coors the beer refreshing
Posted by: lancewing plover at August 31, 2016 12:31 PM (R2Osi)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 12:31 PM (THupw)
I used up a 5-lb jug of that stuff just recently - love it. Based on that experience I got some Universal as my back-up reserve powder.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:25 PM (QDnY+)
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Gunshow at KC. Repackaged bulk into jugs labled "surplus pistol powder". I dont think Rio allows their branding on resold powder.
I asked the guy "What is this". He said suprlus podwer.
I opened the jug and said .... look.... I need to to know if this is CSB1 or CSB5. He frowns and says "not 5".
I said cool. Ring me up for two.
CSB-1 is awesome. I load in 45 right now and when Im out of WSF, Im going to use it in 9mm.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:31 PM (8XRCm)
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After a quick search, the proposal is to serialize the brass. That way it will be super convenient to track that brass back to the shop that sold it (as they will have to keep official records of course), and thus to the person that bought it.
20 other states have similar proposals on deck.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:32 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: willow
LOL. Honestly, it's Dr. Ruth Westhiemer.
Wisenheimer is just a polite way of calling someone a smartass.
Generally what parents would say to kids.
"Don't be a wisenheimer!"
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:32 PM (XMGl9)
drags self back up to roll up carpet for further adventure.
Posted by: willow at August 31, 2016 12:33 PM (A1MMY)
...
After a quick search, the proposal is to serialize the brass. That way it will be super convenient to track that brass back to the shop that sold it (as they will have to keep official records of course), and thus to the person that bought it.
20 other states have similar proposals on deck.
Posted by: ajmojo
And smart criminals will continue to police their brass. And the ones getting caught will be the same assholes resulting in yet another disproportional effect.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2016 12:34 PM (326rv)
And then a big speech to follow.
Behold what was once a serious great nation. An absurdly unfit, sociopathic, unlikeable nobody with nothing but disaster and criminality as a resume can "campaign" by simply disappearing from public view (and, per this thread, issuing incredibly lame, insulting, sophomoric "tweets") .
And yet receive the endorsement, explicit or indirect, of a huge chunk of the "opposition's" elite sectors.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2016 12:34 PM (QDnY+)
How they gonna find the brass from a revolver?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:34 PM (XMGl9)
20 other states have similar proposals on deck.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:32 PM (1H9ox)
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That also looks like it precludes anyone picking up loose brass at the firing ranges for reloading. If not, then the whole purpose of serial numbers is mute. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2016 12:36 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:34 PM (XMGl9)
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Wai..... WUT???
~gungrabbers everywhere
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2016 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
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It will be on the ground in the 70 round clip. Duh.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:37 PM (1H9ox)
Do serial numbers on guns actually accomplish anything anyway? It seems like there are a lot of things that could lead to mandatory registration that we should probably push back on.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 31, 2016 12:38 PM (R2Osi)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2016 12:39 PM (XMGl9)
It would be lovely if the entire room stood up and turned their backs on her, but the AL is basically another left-wing clown show these days, anyway.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2016 12:39 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2016 12:40 PM (THupw)
A couple things:
-Yay, he is throwing some cash at this
-Wait...Has he seriously not hit $2mil in fundraising yet this month?
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:40 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2016 12:15 PM (DPv+O)
I'd say:
People in power regularly make things worse, not better. It's the nature of power, and those that acquire it wind up using it.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2016 12:40 PM (wCEn4)
20 other states have similar proposals on deck.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 31, 2016 12:32 PM (1H9ox)
Sounds like the scheme of a few years ago to put "micro-taggants" into gunpowder.
At best, such a serializing scheme might result in a few dumb murderers getting caught, probably the same ones who already get caught because theirs was an impulsive, unplanned crime. Likely won't stop the gang-banger killings in Chicago, since I'm willing to bet most of them are committed with stolen guns that they got with a full magazine. Innocent, legal gun owners who were victimized by burglars will be harassed.
And clever criminals will use revolvers, so they can dispose of the spent brass "safely", or else find some other way of defeating the serial number scheme.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2016 12:43 PM (oqkO3)
I do like how Trump is living rent free in their heads by going to Mexico and speaking at a black church in Detroit.
Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2016 12:43 PM (TmVQX)
It won't affect the manufacturing or sale of smokeless powder.
Posted by: An Observation at August 31, 2016 12:55 PM (WIGR9)
Posted by: Brown Line at August 31, 2016 02:40 PM (8ihif)
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