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TGIF News Dump (8/26/16) [Mis. Hum.]
- Germany's Angela Merkel target of an assassination plot
- Italian quake death toll rises
- She blows a lot of smoke up a$$e$
- The Nanny State, when will it end?
- Doctors Without Borders despicable actions
- TFG Administration claims it has saved millions in Medicare spending
- Judicial Watch doing the job which the Press has given up on
- Economy stumbling along
- He's still a Moonbeam
- Clinton
SlushFoundation in good hands
- Crossbow attack in Canada kills 3
- Bolivian miners kill government official
- Warning shots? Oh well.
- MN man charged with aiding ISIS
- Growing old sucks
- Genius Award
- Feel good story of the day
- A 2nd feel good story of the day
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Morning!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 26, 2016 07:41 AM (YLidQ)
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Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2016 07:43 AM (JO9+V)
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Scankles assumes (correctly) that the MFM will continue to cover her back. Even on outright corruption.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:44 AM (mpXpK)
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Yay !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (Z8DIA)
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Local reports claim that officers found a baton, a canister of tear gas, cement blocks, and handcuffs in the man's black 4x4 Mercedes.
Isn't that just Date Night for Morons?
Isn't that just Date Night for Morons?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (mgbwf)
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That Wash Exam article is pure bullshit. Obastard is saving Medicare money by denying claims. I went through the ER last year with chest pains. Medicare denied any coverage because I hadn't obtained prior permission to be admitted.
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
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Homeless advocates and public health officials are squaring off over a
controversial Obama administration proposalto ban smoking
ingovernment-assistedhousing projects.
Thesmoking banhas drawn
praise from health officials who say it would spare non-smokers from
the dangerous effects of secondhand smoke
The government's second hand smoking "study" was proven in court to be the biggest lies packed out by the government since the SS scam. The judge actually threw them out of court.
controversial Obama administration proposalto ban smoking
ingovernment-assistedhousing projects.
Thesmoking banhas drawn
praise from health officials who say it would spare non-smokers from
the dangerous effects of secondhand smoke
The government's second hand smoking "study" was proven in court to be the biggest lies packed out by the government since the SS scam. The judge actually threw them out of court.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:46 AM (mpXpK)
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Crossbows are cool.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 07:48 AM (PFy0L)
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Local reports claim that officers found a baton, a canister of tear gas, cement blocks, and handcuffs in the man's black 4x4 Mercedes.
Time for common sense cement block reform.
Seriously, I could think of ten common household items more conducive to an assassination attempt than that junk.
Time for common sense cement block reform.
Seriously, I could think of ten common household items more conducive to an assassination attempt than that junk.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 07:48 AM (ZFUt7)
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Federal health officials said Thursday that Medicare saved hundreds of
millions of dollars last year as a result of doctors and hospitals
working together through new, innovative Accountable Care Organizations.
They also claimed Obama was God and the moon was made of Swiss cheese.
millions of dollars last year as a result of doctors and hospitals
working together through new, innovative Accountable Care Organizations.
They also claimed Obama was God and the moon was made of Swiss cheese.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:48 AM (mpXpK)
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Despite government data supporting Donald Trump's claim that blacks are worse off under President Obama, the White House insisted Thursday that blacks have made progress under the first black president and that the Republican nominee would reverse those gains.
Mr. Trump's pitch that black Americans have "nothing to lose" by voting for him is clearly irritating the White House, which tried but failed to muster much convincing evidence that life for blacks in America has improved over the past eight years.
Mr. Trump's pitch that black Americans have "nothing to lose" by voting for him is clearly irritating the White House, which tried but failed to muster much convincing evidence that life for blacks in America has improved over the past eight years.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 26, 2016 07:48 AM (0+WqX)
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Hilly's OMG KKKLAN!!!! ad doesn't seem like the tactic of a candidate who believes they're ahead by double digits.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 26, 2016 07:49 AM (vP09u)
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Nah, the economy is not stumbling along. All the numbers published by the Obamanites are lies. The economy has been mired in Great Depression - II since 2009 and has shown no signs of recovery.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:50 AM (mpXpK)
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Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 07:51 AM (voOPb)
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so when hasn't the MSM not covered for the Clintons? one of the things her royal Lie-ness mnetioned in her speech in Reno yesterday was about Trump's org being sued for discrimination in housing. Wash Post ran an article on that early this year. The case was settled in 1975, but don't bring up her cattle futures trading because that's old news and she already answered that question at least three different times and with different answers and anyway no reasonable prosecutor would think she had any intent to do anything wrong.
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 26, 2016 07:52 AM (2JQBv)
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Ya know, the more I look at the state of this nation, the more I think maybe i SHOULD repatriate to Peruvia.
Sure, it's crooked and dirty and poor, but they don't pretend to be otherwise.
Sure, it's crooked and dirty and poor, but they don't pretend to be otherwise.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 07:54 AM (lutOX)
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Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 07:51 AM (voOPb)
***
That Catch-22, man.....,.
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 07:51 AM (voOPb)
***
That Catch-22, man.....,.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 07:55 AM (lutOX)
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So what was the despicable action by Doctors Without Borders? Paying ransom for employees, not attempting to pay ransom for some American dimwit, both, or something else done or not done?
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 07:56 AM (NUqwG)
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Well, I had the most hilarious dream last night- one that I devoutly hope comes true.
I am watching Trump and Hill debate. Hill is drunk or sick. She says the n word instead of "trigger"and then says, "Oh, shit, I'm sorry" on national tv. The camera shows the stricken faces of the msm panel and then cuts to Trump, who has an expression of both incredulity and concern on his face. She then has another slip of the tongue and refers to "k*kes." She apologizes again and then has a bad coughing jag. She tries to drink water and then coughs again and spews it all over the podium. I am laughing hysterically as Trump says gently, "Mrs. Clinton, do you need help?"
Ah, what a beautiful dream. I'm not banking on it happening, but wouldn't it be wonderful if it did? There would be no way to spin it.
In the dream, I don't have a computer and am thinking, "I can't wait to read what the Horde has to say about this!"
I am watching Trump and Hill debate. Hill is drunk or sick. She says the n word instead of "trigger"and then says, "Oh, shit, I'm sorry" on national tv. The camera shows the stricken faces of the msm panel and then cuts to Trump, who has an expression of both incredulity and concern on his face. She then has another slip of the tongue and refers to "k*kes." She apologizes again and then has a bad coughing jag. She tries to drink water and then coughs again and spews it all over the podium. I am laughing hysterically as Trump says gently, "Mrs. Clinton, do you need help?"
Ah, what a beautiful dream. I'm not banking on it happening, but wouldn't it be wonderful if it did? There would be no way to spin it.
In the dream, I don't have a computer and am thinking, "I can't wait to read what the Horde has to say about this!"
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands at August 26, 2016 07:57 AM (P8951)
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Germany's Angela Merkel target of an assassination plot
This may shock you, but British tabloids sometimes print things that aren't entirely accurate.
I was wondering why I hadn't seen this in the Krautish press and that's because it basically isn't there.
I double-checked by going to google.de and seeing what news stories there are about Merkel in Prag. There are a zillion stories saying she got booed over her immigration policies.
There are two notices that someone tried to force his Mercedes into her convoy. There are no stories claiming that this was an assassination attempt.
This may shock you, but British tabloids sometimes print things that aren't entirely accurate.
I was wondering why I hadn't seen this in the Krautish press and that's because it basically isn't there.
I double-checked by going to google.de and seeing what news stories there are about Merkel in Prag. There are a zillion stories saying she got booed over her immigration policies.
There are two notices that someone tried to force his Mercedes into her convoy. There are no stories claiming that this was an assassination attempt.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 07:57 AM (mgbwf)
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One doesn't repatriate to Peruvia, Peruvia repatriates to you!
Posted by: Stuff Stalin Said at August 26, 2016 07:58 AM (sJuKe)
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The constant stream of propaganda that holds forth as true things we KNOW and can SEE are not so..... I think this must be sort of what it was like living behind the Iron Curtain - everything you were told was 180 degrees from everything you saw, but don't you dare say a word, lest you end up in a mental health facility and/or prison.
We're headed that way, comrades.
We're headed that way, comrades.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 07:59 AM (lutOX)
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So true, Vic; everything is a lie these days.
In the real world the trend has been of slow but steady decline, year after year, drip, drip, drip ....
Empty storefronts in little towns, strip malls with only one remaining store; the other day I saw a big mall in a good sized city that was converting one wing into a rent-a-storage-unit operation.
Gosh I'm feeling cheerful this morning ....
/sarc
In the real world the trend has been of slow but steady decline, year after year, drip, drip, drip ....
Empty storefronts in little towns, strip malls with only one remaining store; the other day I saw a big mall in a good sized city that was converting one wing into a rent-a-storage-unit operation.
Gosh I'm feeling cheerful this morning ....
/sarc
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 26, 2016 07:59 AM (Z8DIA)
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Growing old sucks. Cairo, Illinois.
Growing old does suck, believe me, I know. But it does not have to be that way for a city or town. What they need is jobs. If the jobs were there people would come to live there. It's a shame, so many towns across America are in the same boat. And government is a BIG cause. Stupid policies, high taxes, and business unfriendly.
Growing old does suck, believe me, I know. But it does not have to be that way for a city or town. What they need is jobs. If the jobs were there people would come to live there. It's a shame, so many towns across America are in the same boat. And government is a BIG cause. Stupid policies, high taxes, and business unfriendly.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at August 26, 2016 07:59 AM (8cftc)
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Hilly's OMG KKKLAN!!!! ad doesn't seem like the tactic of a candidate who believes they're ahead by double digits.Posted by: Mr. Peebles
The democrats probably have someone in every state who has access to the raw data from that states polls and makes the proper adjustments. They have reason for concern.
But go ahead, idiots, paint the opposition as hooded cross burners. That's going to inspire them to stay home on election day.
The democrats probably have someone in every state who has access to the raw data from that states polls and makes the proper adjustments. They have reason for concern.
But go ahead, idiots, paint the opposition as hooded cross burners. That's going to inspire them to stay home on election day.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 07:59 AM (ZFUt7)
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Stop What You're Doing and Update Your iPhone Right Now
http://bit.ly/2bCPsEq
I guess there is a security breech.
PJMedia
Stop What You're Doing and Update Your iPhone Right Now
http://bit.ly/2bCPsEq
I guess there is a security breech.
PJMedia
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 08:00 AM (qCMvj)
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14
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 07:51 AM (voOPb)
Someone is lying to you creeper. According to my Medicare documentation Medicare Part B is supposed to cover all ER visits for emergency care.
Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 07:51 AM (voOPb)
Someone is lying to you creeper. According to my Medicare documentation Medicare Part B is supposed to cover all ER visits for emergency care.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 08:01 AM (mpXpK)
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Shrills "KKK" charge is her most effective way to neutralize the issue of her inordinate backing by Saudis and other associated women oppressing , gay executing throwbacks
The Don must now get into degrees of separation and the LIV electorate scratches its ass and moves on
She hopes the Trump campaign will now treat the issue much as WW2 combatants treated poison gas. Not worth getting into.
The Don must now get into degrees of separation and the LIV electorate scratches its ass and moves on
She hopes the Trump campaign will now treat the issue much as WW2 combatants treated poison gas. Not worth getting into.
Posted by: Xnycpeasant at August 26, 2016 08:01 AM (rxW5j)
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Hmmm.....maybe I could become Peruvia's envoy to the Republic of Texas. Or vice versa. Or both at once.
Now...where the hell is my fucking poncho?
Now...where the hell is my fucking poncho?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:02 AM (lutOX)
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Yeah, Palpatine, that's exactly what I'm expecting to happen if Tia Borracha wins in November.
From bad to much worse, in an instant.
From bad to much worse, in an instant.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 26, 2016 08:04 AM (Z8DIA)
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Growing old sucks. Cairo, Illinois.
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I visited Cairo in 2014 and must say the extent of the decline was shocking. Detroit at the confluence.
Incongruously there were several churches in the city that appeared to be impeccably maintained.
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I visited Cairo in 2014 and must say the extent of the decline was shocking. Detroit at the confluence.
Incongruously there were several churches in the city that appeared to be impeccably maintained.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:05 AM (NUqwG)
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that guy's story about Medicare can't possibly be true, because one of the reasons we needed Obamacare was so people wouldn't need to use emergency rooms. Stop trying to make our wunderful president look worse, if it weren't for the evil Republicans, Obamacare would have also meant people wouldn't need to go to rest rooms.
Posted by: mallfly cloggenstrein of fantasyland VT at August 26, 2016 08:05 AM (2JQBv)
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"Obastard is saving Medicare money by denying claims."
Also, they are slow-walking the reimbursement process. I've heard of surgeons having to wait several full years to finally get paid for having performed particular procedures. It's a financial gut punch for them.
When you combine that with the low payments proffered by Medicare, that's a recipe for having a couple of different things happen:
(a) Surgical practices refusing Medicare, and/or,
(b) Fed-up surgeons retiring and not being promptly replaced.
Also, they are slow-walking the reimbursement process. I've heard of surgeons having to wait several full years to finally get paid for having performed particular procedures. It's a financial gut punch for them.
When you combine that with the low payments proffered by Medicare, that's a recipe for having a couple of different things happen:
(a) Surgical practices refusing Medicare, and/or,
(b) Fed-up surgeons retiring and not being promptly replaced.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:06 AM (noWW6)
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Conan:
Hillary is to get her first national security briefing.
They will be telling her about the chief cyber security threats to the US ... the Russians .. the Chinese .. Hillary Clinton
Hillary is to get her first national security briefing.
They will be telling her about the chief cyber security threats to the US ... the Russians .. the Chinese .. Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 26, 2016 08:06 AM (0+WqX)
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"Medicare saved hundreds of millions of dollars last year"
What they did was deny payment on some Medicare claims and use the money to try and prop up Obama Care exchanges. Denying claims definitely saves the Government money. If they do enough of it Medicare will evaporate like Obama Care exchanges.
When things get crooked enough then federal programs will expire because every program will attempt to eat the entire federal budget. Systemic collapse.
What they did was deny payment on some Medicare claims and use the money to try and prop up Obama Care exchanges. Denying claims definitely saves the Government money. If they do enough of it Medicare will evaporate like Obama Care exchanges.
When things get crooked enough then federal programs will expire because every program will attempt to eat the entire federal budget. Systemic collapse.
Posted by: Ok at August 26, 2016 08:06 AM (sGWK0)
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The Free Beacon has a humorous investigative report on The Pickle Jar Incident, claiming that there was no 'pop' when the jar was opened:
http://tinyurl.com/jlyqc2q
No chocolates were harmed in the making of this post.
http://tinyurl.com/jlyqc2q
No chocolates were harmed in the making of this post.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:07 AM (gyKtp)
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http://bit.ly/2bCPsEq
I guess there is a security breech.
PJMedia
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 08:00 AM (qCMvj
Thanks, updating now.
I guess there is a security breech.
PJMedia
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 08:00 AM (qCMvj
Thanks, updating now.
Posted by: spypeach at August 26, 2016 08:07 AM (nyYhO)
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g'mornin', again, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (ZQfW9)
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>>>>Defeats the idea of an EMERGENCY Room<<<<<
Our local hospital is running ads on the radio explaining that you can call and make an appointment at the emergency room. WTF?
Our local hospital is running ads on the radio explaining that you can call and make an appointment at the emergency room. WTF?
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (x3uSY)
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Comedian Anthony Griffith on raising teenagers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7DuDJpkXIE
So, yesterday my son was complaining that I was dropping him off 10 minutes early for Cross Country practice. As we're driving in I said, "I tell you what- if there are no kids there I will pay you ten dollars. When we got there, I said, "YOU LOSE.! Perhaps you can bitch and moan to the others kids there whose parents already dropped them off."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7DuDJpkXIE
So, yesterday my son was complaining that I was dropping him off 10 minutes early for Cross Country practice. As we're driving in I said, "I tell you what- if there are no kids there I will pay you ten dollars. When we got there, I said, "YOU LOSE.! Perhaps you can bitch and moan to the others kids there whose parents already dropped them off."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (6HqlZ)
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"Fed-up surgeons retiring and not being promptly replaced."
The plan is to replace them with Cubans. Castro isn't happy about it either.
The plan is to replace them with Cubans. Castro isn't happy about it either.
Posted by: Ok at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (sGWK0)
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Speaking of paranoia....
Hills - herself the victim, in the 90's, of the vast right wing consipiracy - is now hounded by Russian hackers, it would seem, and all the while, a man known to the public for over 40 years as a sort of squishy dem-type is now revealed as an agent of a resurgent Reich.
Yeah, and Trump's the paranoid one.
Hills - herself the victim, in the 90's, of the vast right wing consipiracy - is now hounded by Russian hackers, it would seem, and all the while, a man known to the public for over 40 years as a sort of squishy dem-type is now revealed as an agent of a resurgent Reich.
Yeah, and Trump's the paranoid one.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:10 AM (lutOX)
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Our local hospital is running ads on the radio explaining that you can call and make an appointment at the emergency room. WTF?
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (x3uSY)
Hi, yes. I'd like to make an emergency room appointment for this Sunday. Yeah, we're having a cookout and there's going to be lots of beer, and my uncle Ed has said he is going to bring fireworks. Yes. You have an opening at 4 pm? That'll be perfect. Thank you. See you then.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at August 26, 2016 08:08 AM (x3uSY)
Hi, yes. I'd like to make an emergency room appointment for this Sunday. Yeah, we're having a cookout and there's going to be lots of beer, and my uncle Ed has said he is going to bring fireworks. Yes. You have an opening at 4 pm? That'll be perfect. Thank you. See you then.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 08:10 AM (KUaJL)
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When we got there, I said, "YOU LOSE.! Perhaps you can bitch and moan
to the others kids there whose parents already dropped them off."
I tell mine that five minutes early is on time. Being late for things gives me hives.
to the others kids there whose parents already dropped them off."
I tell mine that five minutes early is on time. Being late for things gives me hives.
Posted by: no good deed at August 26, 2016 08:10 AM (9nt94)
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>>>>Hilly's OMG KKKLAN!!!! ad doesn't seem like the tactic of a candidate
who believes they're ahead by double digits.Posted by: Mr. Peebles
The democrats probably have someone in every state who has access to
the raw data from that states polls and makes the proper adjustments.
They have reason for concern.
But go ahead, idiots, paint the opposition as hooded cross burners. That's going to inspire them to stay home on election day.
.
.
.I doubt they have anyone able to do that, but the State polling data out there so far shows hillary losing all of bump she got from the Convention. Trump is either slightly ahead or within the MOE in all of the traditional battleground States.
That is what triggered the KKK ad I think. Trump is stealing black votes away from her even after the constant 24/7 Trump is a racist coverage.
who believes they're ahead by double digits.Posted by: Mr. Peebles
The democrats probably have someone in every state who has access to
the raw data from that states polls and makes the proper adjustments.
They have reason for concern.
But go ahead, idiots, paint the opposition as hooded cross burners. That's going to inspire them to stay home on election day.
.
.
.I doubt they have anyone able to do that, but the State polling data out there so far shows hillary losing all of bump she got from the Convention. Trump is either slightly ahead or within the MOE in all of the traditional battleground States.
That is what triggered the KKK ad I think. Trump is stealing black votes away from her even after the constant 24/7 Trump is a racist coverage.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 26, 2016 08:11 AM (iONHu)
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The VA is planning on removing all their X-ray equipment.
They are going to replace X-rays with pickle jars.
They are going to replace X-rays with pickle jars.
Posted by: Ok at August 26, 2016 08:11 AM (sGWK0)
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When do you sleep MisHum????
Posted by: lindafell de spair- racist, mysognistic, uneducated, bitter, redneck, Moron in TEXIT! at August 26, 2016 08:11 AM (xVgrA)
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Our local hospital is running ads on the radio explaining that you can call and make an appointment at the emergency room. WTF?
It's all about the benjamins
It's all about the benjamins
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 08:13 AM (Cd8NC)
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 08:01 AM (mpXpK)
*** Vic, they did cover the ER. Cardiologist admitted me to the hospital for twenty-four hours' observation. That's what they denied.
*** Vic, they did cover the ER. Cardiologist admitted me to the hospital for twenty-four hours' observation. That's what they denied.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 08:14 AM (MP6Qb)
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You mean you can get your dick in a pickle jar!?
Posted by: Just the Punch Line, Inc. at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (97XyN)
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We need common sense heart attack control.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (mgbwf)
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18 So what was the despicable action by Doctors Without Borders? Paying ransom for employees, not attempting to pay ransom for some American dimwit, both, or something else done or not done?
_______________________
Not rescuing Kayla Mueller, the dim-wit who decided to tag along with her muzzie boyfriend to Syria (where he was going to repair some DWB hospital computers).
Mueller didn't work for DWB, had no business in Syria, was basically going because she thought it would be exciting, and managed to get herself kidnapped, raped, and killed while she was there.
Mueller's parents have been criticizing first the State Dept., and now DWB for not trying to rescue their foolish and reckless daughter from the inevitable consequences of her own incredibly stupid choices.
DWB simply pointed out that Mueller didn't work for them, and that if she had worked for them, they never would have authorized her to go to Syria, as it was far too dangerous a place for an American female. DWB said it can't spend its time and resources trying to rescue people who are not connected to it. A perfectly reasonable position, which Mueller's unreasonable parents can't seem to grasp.
_______________________
Not rescuing Kayla Mueller, the dim-wit who decided to tag along with her muzzie boyfriend to Syria (where he was going to repair some DWB hospital computers).
Mueller didn't work for DWB, had no business in Syria, was basically going because she thought it would be exciting, and managed to get herself kidnapped, raped, and killed while she was there.
Mueller's parents have been criticizing first the State Dept., and now DWB for not trying to rescue their foolish and reckless daughter from the inevitable consequences of her own incredibly stupid choices.
DWB simply pointed out that Mueller didn't work for them, and that if she had worked for them, they never would have authorized her to go to Syria, as it was far too dangerous a place for an American female. DWB said it can't spend its time and resources trying to rescue people who are not connected to it. A perfectly reasonable position, which Mueller's unreasonable parents can't seem to grasp.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (NnYnv)
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Heh.... fellow some time back had an amusing idea.
He proposed going down to mexico and driving back a vehicle with Mexican tags, or just buying a set of Mexican plates for his car here, and then putting his license away forever.
No insurance, no license, no registration with the county, no nothing, and, this being Austin, not a damned thing anybody could do about it.
Let 'em try to collect.
He proposed going down to mexico and driving back a vehicle with Mexican tags, or just buying a set of Mexican plates for his car here, and then putting his license away forever.
No insurance, no license, no registration with the county, no nothing, and, this being Austin, not a damned thing anybody could do about it.
Let 'em try to collect.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (lutOX)
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What is going to be the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt propaganda for today? Earlier this week it was Trump is Betraying Us for Amnesty. Yesterday it was OMG! Trump is not on the Minnesota Ballot! Can we expect another one today, or do we have to wait for Monday?
I ask because I want to know if I should ready my hair for the Lighting on Fire and Running Around Screaming in Panic. If so, I need to buy aloe lotion.
I ask because I want to know if I should ready my hair for the Lighting on Fire and Running Around Screaming in Panic. If so, I need to buy aloe lotion.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (hLRSq)
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I notice that the name of the would-be "assassin" of Merkel hasn't been released. Might it rhyme with Schmuhammed?
Posted by: josephistan at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (7HtZB)
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Here's my Medicare horror story for you.
I had an elderly patient spend 4 hourscalling all of their friends one night trying to get a ride to the hosital, all the while having chest pain. I asked why they didn't call for an ambulance and they related that the last time they had chest pain, they did in fact call for an ambulance, which Medicare later denied to pay.
Here's my Medicare horror story for you.
I had an elderly patient spend 4 hourscalling all of their friends one night trying to get a ride to the hosital, all the while having chest pain. I asked why they didn't call for an ambulance and they related that the last time they had chest pain, they did in fact call for an ambulance, which Medicare later denied to pay.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (v3DL/)
57
There's been a flurry of good news reports on the F-35 program lately...
The DoD spin machine, at least, is fully operational.
Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office.
(Daily Mail)
http://tinyurl.com/zx6cco3
100% chance? That's bad, right?
The DoD spin machine, at least, is fully operational.
Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office.
(Daily Mail)
http://tinyurl.com/zx6cco3
100% chance? That's bad, right?
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (gyKtp)
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Our local hospital is running ads on the radio explaining that you can call and make an appointment at the emergency room. WTF?
Emergency rooms are empty anymore. Urgent care facilities are popping up all over. Plus the obamacare deductibles are so high that people avoid the ER like the plague.
Pay a grand for half an hour at the ER or a couple hundred at an urgent care facilitity?
Emergency rooms are empty anymore. Urgent care facilities are popping up all over. Plus the obamacare deductibles are so high that people avoid the ER like the plague.
Pay a grand for half an hour at the ER or a couple hundred at an urgent care facilitity?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (ZFUt7)
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They can't just poll random likely voters any longer, they have to "weight" everything. And that's where the shenanigans come into play. When you see things like the below in a poll, you can be certain that someone is rigging the numbers. This is a Fox5 News Atlanta poll for Georgia that has Trump and hillary tied:
The survey was weighted for age, race, gender, party affiliation, and region using propensity scores. Weighting benchmarks were determined using historical turnout data and internal projections
Internal projections means they will themselves determine what the poll result will be.
The survey was weighted for age, race, gender, party affiliation, and region using propensity scores. Weighting benchmarks were determined using historical turnout data and internal projections
Internal projections means they will themselves determine what the poll result will be.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 26, 2016 08:19 AM (iONHu)
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18 So what was the despicable action by Doctors Without Borders? Paying ransom for employees, not attempting to pay ransom for some American dimwit, both, or something else done or not done?
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 07:56 AM (NUqwG
If someone assisting your organization is kidnapped - You have an obligation to assist in that employees release. Assist. Assistance can take many forms.
We can argue whether she should've been there.
We can argue whether or not she was a dim wit.
What Doctors Without Borders did and didn't do was despicable.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 07:56 AM (NUqwG
If someone assisting your organization is kidnapped - You have an obligation to assist in that employees release. Assist. Assistance can take many forms.
We can argue whether she should've been there.
We can argue whether or not she was a dim wit.
What Doctors Without Borders did and didn't do was despicable.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:19 AM (voOPb)
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Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (hLRSq)
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Well, we just need to wait and hear what our concerned friends have to say. They're probably still reading Salon, PuffHo, etc...... Give them time.
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Well, we just need to wait and hear what our concerned friends have to say. They're probably still reading Salon, PuffHo, etc...... Give them time.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:19 AM (lutOX)
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"I visited Cairo in 2014 and must say the extent of the decline was shocking. Detroit at the confluence. Incongruously there were several churches in the city that appeared to be impeccably maintained."
I had to laugh. I was reading a bit about Bobby Womack, who in later life reflected that he hadn't originally wanted to be a musical entertainer, but instead, a preacher.
He went on to explain how in the black community when he was a boy, the preachers were the ones who were living in the biggest, nicest houses, driving the shiny new Cadillac cars, and getting "the best part of the chicken" when they were invited to dinner.
Womack looked at them and said, man, this is the life for me!
I had to laugh. I was reading a bit about Bobby Womack, who in later life reflected that he hadn't originally wanted to be a musical entertainer, but instead, a preacher.
He went on to explain how in the black community when he was a boy, the preachers were the ones who were living in the biggest, nicest houses, driving the shiny new Cadillac cars, and getting "the best part of the chicken" when they were invited to dinner.
Womack looked at them and said, man, this is the life for me!
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (noWW6)
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I notice that the name of the would-be "assassin" of Merkel hasn't been released. Might it rhyme with Schmuhammed?
Well, keeping in mind a bunch of the details are coming from Russia Today....
The suggestion is that it's some guy who thinks Merkel is "killing Europe" and wanted to take a somewhat violent remedy. They are moving away from the ROP angle.
And not sure why the ROP would want to kill Merkel anyway. She's done more for them than their own leaders have.
Well, keeping in mind a bunch of the details are coming from Russia Today....
The suggestion is that it's some guy who thinks Merkel is "killing Europe" and wanted to take a somewhat violent remedy. They are moving away from the ROP angle.
And not sure why the ROP would want to kill Merkel anyway. She's done more for them than their own leaders have.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)
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Wow - that's a sad story about Cairo. When I lived down there in those parts, Cairo was the nearest thing to somewhat of a town. I wonder where those folks go now to do their odds and ends?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:23 AM (dFi94)
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55 >> I notice that the name of the would-be "assassin" of Merkel hasn't been released. Might it rhyme with Schmuhammed?
Posted by: josephistan
Mohammadberg, the Amish gypsy?
Posted by: josephistan
Mohammadberg, the Amish gypsy?
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:23 AM (gyKtp)
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"Emergency rooms are empty anymore. Urgent care facilities are popping up
all over. Plus the obamacare deductibles are so high that people avoid
the ER like the plague."
I haven't been in an ER in this part of Commiefornia for the last quarter century that wasn't consistently at 130% of fire-marshal capacity at pretty much all hours of the day and night. No seating left. Obviously badly ill people slumped on the floor.
The overwhelming majority of the patrons? Illegal aliens.
all over. Plus the obamacare deductibles are so high that people avoid
the ER like the plague."
I haven't been in an ER in this part of Commiefornia for the last quarter century that wasn't consistently at 130% of fire-marshal capacity at pretty much all hours of the day and night. No seating left. Obviously badly ill people slumped on the floor.
The overwhelming majority of the patrons? Illegal aliens.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:23 AM (noWW6)
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I notice that the name of the would-be "assassin" of Merkel hasn't been released. Might it rhyme with Schmuhammed?
The Bild (Krautish tabloid) story says that the police did not release any details as to the guy's identity.
The Krautish press in any case are forbidden to release the full names of suspects, so it's always Fritz K. or Mohammed N. (Well the latter does tell you something).
But this doesn't seem to be a Krautish press issue, the Czech police are the ones not talking.
The Bild (Krautish tabloid) story says that the police did not release any details as to the guy's identity.
The Krautish press in any case are forbidden to release the full names of suspects, so it's always Fritz K. or Mohammed N. (Well the latter does tell you something).
But this doesn't seem to be a Krautish press issue, the Czech police are the ones not talking.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:23 AM (mgbwf)
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Pay a grand for half an hour at the ER or a couple hundred at an urgent care facilitity?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (ZFUt7)
Which means a lot of cases should have been at an urgent care facility from the beginning.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (ZFUt7)
Which means a lot of cases should have been at an urgent care facility from the beginning.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Get Your Campaign F.U.D. Fix at the Outrage Outlet! New Shipments Arrive Daily! at August 26, 2016 08:24 AM (hLRSq)
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Good morning all. Woke up this morning to a newsfeed crawl that Brazil has formally charged Lochte with filing a false police report. Whaaaa? If anyone has better info, let me know, but wasn't it a fact that he did not file a report. Makes no sense -- although my take on the whole thing is that the whole country is nuts. Apparently they pulled passports on the whole Irish delegation as well.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 26, 2016 08:24 AM (MIKMs)
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And not sure why the ROP would want to kill Merkel anyway. She's done more for them than their own leaders have.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)
She's really a homely woman. They want her in a Burka.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)
She's really a homely woman. They want her in a Burka.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:24 AM (voOPb)
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A perfectly reasonable position, which Mueller's unreasonable parents can't seem to grasp.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (NnYnv)
If they had been reasonable, they would have raised their daughter to be reasonable and none of this would have happened.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (NnYnv)
If they had been reasonable, they would have raised their daughter to be reasonable and none of this would have happened.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (Ee2nz)
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Heh.... fellow some time back had an amusing idea.
He proposed going down to mexico and driving back a vehicle with Mexican tags, or just buying a set of Mexican plates for his car here, and then putting his license away forever.
No insurance, no license, no registration with the county, no nothing, and, this being Austin, not a damned thing anybody could do about it.
Let 'em try to collect.
Easier to just take the plates off of a car that's already here.
What are they going to do??
He proposed going down to mexico and driving back a vehicle with Mexican tags, or just buying a set of Mexican plates for his car here, and then putting his license away forever.
No insurance, no license, no registration with the county, no nothing, and, this being Austin, not a damned thing anybody could do about it.
Let 'em try to collect.
Easier to just take the plates off of a car that's already here.
What are they going to do??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (Cd8NC)
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57 There's been a flurry of good news reports on the F-35 program lately...
The DoD spin machine, at least, is fully operational.
Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office.
(Daily Mail)
http://tinyurl.com/zx6cco3
100% chance? That's bad, right?
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (gyKtp)
Sounds bad, but how do those figures compare against other ejection seats? Getting shot through a plexiglass bubble six inches above one's head by a rocket chair is not a teacup ride at the state fair.
The DoD spin machine, at least, is fully operational.
Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office.
(Daily Mail)
http://tinyurl.com/zx6cco3
100% chance? That's bad, right?
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:18 AM (gyKtp)
Sounds bad, but how do those figures compare against other ejection seats? Getting shot through a plexiglass bubble six inches above one's head by a rocket chair is not a teacup ride at the state fair.
Posted by: josephistan at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (7HtZB)
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47 When do you sleep MisHum????
Posted by: lindafell de spair- racist, mysognistic, uneducated, bitter, redneck, Moron in TEXIT! at August 26, 2016 08:11 AM (xVgrA
That is a very good question Linda. Usually at my real job
Posted by: lindafell de spair- racist, mysognistic, uneducated, bitter, redneck, Moron in TEXIT! at August 26, 2016 08:11 AM (xVgrA
That is a very good question Linda. Usually at my real job
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (voOPb)
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Internal projections means they will themselves determine what the poll result will be. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Absolutely. The most important projection right now is what percentage of republican and independent voters HIGHER than last election will show up, and what LOWER percentage of democrats will show up. Compared to four years ago. Use the same percentages as 2012? That's insane.
You can 'sort of' extrapolate based on the parties primaries.
Absolutely. The most important projection right now is what percentage of republican and independent voters HIGHER than last election will show up, and what LOWER percentage of democrats will show up. Compared to four years ago. Use the same percentages as 2012? That's insane.
You can 'sort of' extrapolate based on the parties primaries.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:26 AM (ZFUt7)
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The genius cop calling 911? Bill him for resource utilization. Time and material.
Posted by: Fritz at August 26, 2016 08:27 AM (2Mnv1)
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Doctors without borders are lying hypocritical left wing scum and Mueller and her parents are fuckin idiots for letting her go to Syria
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:27 AM (Ozsfq)
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And not sure why the ROP would want to kill Merkel anyway. She's done more for them than their own leaders have.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)
True, but muzzies got to muzzie. Frankly, they could take her out & the usual suspects would only spin in into an excuse to take in more "refugees" - "We have to preserve the legacy she gave her life for, yada, yada, yada."
And not sure why the ROP would want to kill Merkel anyway. She's done more for them than their own leaders have.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 08:20 AM (PFy0L)
True, but muzzies got to muzzie. Frankly, they could take her out & the usual suspects would only spin in into an excuse to take in more "refugees" - "We have to preserve the legacy she gave her life for, yada, yada, yada."
Posted by: josephistan at August 26, 2016 08:27 AM (7HtZB)
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Sarah "Local Crime Story" Kliff is starting to realize ZeroCare is falling apart and the butthurt is going to be delicious. Hilariously, one state is reportedly thinking about 30%-plus premium price increases for next year. Yup- that'll kill it.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:28 AM (/m8T6)
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If they had been reasonable, they would have raised their daughter to be reasonable and none of this would have happened.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (Ee2nz)
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Free will. Children usually are not clones of their parents. If they were, mine would be perfect.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:25 AM (Ee2nz)
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Free will. Children usually are not clones of their parents. If they were, mine would be perfect.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:28 AM (dFi94)
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Free will. Children usually are not clones of their parents. If they were, mine would be perfect.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:28 AM (dFi94)
My kids are clones, it's just their mother's genes that fuck the whole thing up?
( please don't show this to my wife she will kill me)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:28 AM (dFi94)
My kids are clones, it's just their mother's genes that fuck the whole thing up?
( please don't show this to my wife she will kill me)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:30 AM (Ozsfq)
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If someone assisting your organization is kidnapped - You have an obligation to assist in that employees release. Assist. Assistance can take many forms.
We can argue whether she should've been there.
We can argue whether or not she was a dim wit.
What Doctors Without Borders did and didn't do was despicable.
______________________
Mueller wasn't assisting DWB. She had no training in computers or setting up a satellite computer system. She had wanted to go to Syria to observe conditions there, so she could write about it on her blog. Her boyfriend, who was the one hired by DWB to install the computer, tried to talk her out of going, but she insisted.
She had no purpose in Syria other than as a sightseer. DWB was not responsible for her decision to go to Syria. DWB's responsibility was to its own workers. If DWB could have helped Mueller without risking harm to their own workers, then certainly they should have done so. But they felt that their primary responsibility was to safeguard their own people, and that was not unreasonable.
We can argue whether she should've been there.
We can argue whether or not she was a dim wit.
What Doctors Without Borders did and didn't do was despicable.
______________________
Mueller wasn't assisting DWB. She had no training in computers or setting up a satellite computer system. She had wanted to go to Syria to observe conditions there, so she could write about it on her blog. Her boyfriend, who was the one hired by DWB to install the computer, tried to talk her out of going, but she insisted.
She had no purpose in Syria other than as a sightseer. DWB was not responsible for her decision to go to Syria. DWB's responsibility was to its own workers. If DWB could have helped Mueller without risking harm to their own workers, then certainly they should have done so. But they felt that their primary responsibility was to safeguard their own people, and that was not unreasonable.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:31 AM (NnYnv)
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The overwhelming majority of the patrons? Illegal aliens.Posted by: torquewrench
But they're not going to pay the bill whatever the cost. The urgent care facilities in my area have all popped up since obamacare went into effect. Because the citizens who have to pay for the insurance can't afford the deductibles for treatment at the ER.
So capitalism rears its ugly head by providing a low cost alternative.
But they're not going to pay the bill whatever the cost. The urgent care facilities in my area have all popped up since obamacare went into effect. Because the citizens who have to pay for the insurance can't afford the deductibles for treatment at the ER.
So capitalism rears its ugly head by providing a low cost alternative.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:31 AM (ZFUt7)
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So the exterminator came late yesterday afternoon and supposedly every last bee is kaput. Later today I guess I'll pack up a load of crap and drag it over to the new house. Look at me. All excited-like.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:31 AM (dFi94)
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Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Just dropped in to say the response for the TX meet up has been fantastic.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (CriMx)
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( please don't show this to my wife she will kill me)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:30 AM (Ozsfq)
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I wouldn't think of it. What's her email address again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:30 AM (Ozsfq)
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I wouldn't think of it. What's her email address again?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:33 AM (dFi94)
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"There's been a flurry of good news reports on the F-35 program lately... The DoD spin machine, at least, is fully operational."
Meanwhile, Dr. Gilmore, the chief weapons tester for the five-sided loony bin, who has a considerable degree of latitude and autonomy from what the politicians and generals want, is as skeptical as ever about the success of the program.
His office now projects that when the F-35 finally has been declared to be at initial operational capability by all three services, it will have cost to date a staggering $400B (!!!) and it won't be genuinely combat ready yet in any of its variants, with an indeterminate price tag remaining to try to make it thus ready. If it ever can be.
"Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office."
Note also: pilots under 165 pounds are statistically strongly likely to be female pilots. And thus unable to safely operate in the jet.
If the F-35 were a collegiate athletics program, they'd be getting hit with the million pound shithammer of Title IX doom right about now. Discrimination against chicks! Male chauvinist pigs! Time to trot out the lawsuits and consent decrees.
Meanwhile, Dr. Gilmore, the chief weapons tester for the five-sided loony bin, who has a considerable degree of latitude and autonomy from what the politicians and generals want, is as skeptical as ever about the success of the program.
His office now projects that when the F-35 finally has been declared to be at initial operational capability by all three services, it will have cost to date a staggering $400B (!!!) and it won't be genuinely combat ready yet in any of its variants, with an indeterminate price tag remaining to try to make it thus ready. If it ever can be.
"Pilots under 136 pounds aren't allowed to fly any F-35 variant. Pilots under 165 pounds have a 1-in-4 chance of death and 100 percent chance of serious neck injury upon ejecting, according to the testing office."
Note also: pilots under 165 pounds are statistically strongly likely to be female pilots. And thus unable to safely operate in the jet.
If the F-35 were a collegiate athletics program, they'd be getting hit with the million pound shithammer of Title IX doom right about now. Discrimination against chicks! Male chauvinist pigs! Time to trot out the lawsuits and consent decrees.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:33 AM (noWW6)
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Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:31 AM (dFi94)
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Buzz, buzz! Just reading about it gave me the heeby-jeebies.....
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Buzz, buzz! Just reading about it gave me the heeby-jeebies.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:33 AM (lutOX)
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77 Doctors without borders are lying hypocritical left wing scum (TRUE)
and Mueller and her parents are fuckin idiots for letting her go to Syria (SHE's AN ADULT AND CAN LEAVE)
NGU I hope that you never have a child that goes to a 3rd world shit hole to do some good work.
I have one that has on several occasions. Did I warn her? Yes. Did I ask her to reconsider? Yes. But as an adult I couldn't stop her from going.
If she had been kidnapped I would hope to God that the organization she was working for would provide some assistance in getting her back.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:27 AM (Ozsfq
and Mueller and her parents are fuckin idiots for letting her go to Syria (SHE's AN ADULT AND CAN LEAVE)
NGU I hope that you never have a child that goes to a 3rd world shit hole to do some good work.
I have one that has on several occasions. Did I warn her? Yes. Did I ask her to reconsider? Yes. But as an adult I couldn't stop her from going.
If she had been kidnapped I would hope to God that the organization she was working for would provide some assistance in getting her back.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:27 AM (Ozsfq
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:34 AM (voOPb)
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Wonder what Jeb would have done the first time Hillary called him a racist? Got down on his knees and begged forgiveness?
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (8cftc)
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My kids are clones, it's just their mother's genes that fuck the whole thing up?
This is a tangent, but perhaps the thread will indulge me.
I am big and strong, but I'm not a natural athlete. I worked hard enough to get good at some things, but you know it was obvious in fifth grade who was athletically gifted.
My ex-wife is a tiny person. Her whole family is not large. But her Dad was an Olympic hockey player, her brothers were Boston All-Schoolboy (that's a Thing there) hockey players. She was accomplished enough as a figure skater to take a year off Jr. High to compete.
So my theory was that if we combined our genes we'd get big strong boys who are awesome at sports.
I have small boys who hate sports.
This is a tangent, but perhaps the thread will indulge me.
I am big and strong, but I'm not a natural athlete. I worked hard enough to get good at some things, but you know it was obvious in fifth grade who was athletically gifted.
My ex-wife is a tiny person. Her whole family is not large. But her Dad was an Olympic hockey player, her brothers were Boston All-Schoolboy (that's a Thing there) hockey players. She was accomplished enough as a figure skater to take a year off Jr. High to compete.
So my theory was that if we combined our genes we'd get big strong boys who are awesome at sports.
I have small boys who hate sports.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (mgbwf)
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Love the F-35 program.
Sure, it's got massive cost over-runs, and won't be combat ready EVER, but at least it's dangerous to its pilots.
Sure, it's got massive cost over-runs, and won't be combat ready EVER, but at least it's dangerous to its pilots.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (lutOX)
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13 Nah, the economy is not stumbling along. All the numbers published by the Obamanites are lies. The economy has been mired in Great Depression - II since 2009 and has shown no signs of recovery.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:50 AM (mpXpK)
Yep.
Without EBT/SNAP we would have LOOOOOONG lines at soup kitchens and food pantries.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 26, 2016 07:50 AM (mpXpK)
Yep.
Without EBT/SNAP we would have LOOOOOONG lines at soup kitchens and food pantries.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at August 26, 2016 08:36 AM (JZJFW)
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"Just dropped in to say the response for the TX meet up has been fantastic."
Listen, y'all had better go straight ahead and issue the provisional notice of secession while the Texan branch of the Horde are thus gathered.
The tequila shots heard round the world.
Listen, y'all had better go straight ahead and issue the provisional notice of secession while the Texan branch of the Horde are thus gathered.
The tequila shots heard round the world.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:36 AM (noWW6)
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Brazil will fuck with you just for spite. I've travelled there for decades. They took away from me a 2.5" long Crescent wrench that my dad carried for thirty years. Claimed it could be a weapon. I joked, "What am I going to do? Torque someone?" Then I got hot about it. They had three security officers trail me all the way to the jetway.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at August 26, 2016 08:36 AM (LIaQb)
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A perfectly reasonable position, which Mueller's unreasonable parents can't seem to grasp.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (NnYnv)
After reading the article (I know, I know), DWB was pretty jerkish about not even passing along information to the family or things like the email address for seven weeks that ISIS wanted the family to use. Did they have a moral duty to negotiate for her release, um no. She wasn't invited or an employee. Did they have a moral duty to at least provide the family information in the family's efforts to get her released, yes.
I have a sneaking suspicion that she ticked a lot of people off while she was there and a "serves her right" attitude set in.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:15 AM (NnYnv)
After reading the article (I know, I know), DWB was pretty jerkish about not even passing along information to the family or things like the email address for seven weeks that ISIS wanted the family to use. Did they have a moral duty to negotiate for her release, um no. She wasn't invited or an employee. Did they have a moral duty to at least provide the family information in the family's efforts to get her released, yes.
I have a sneaking suspicion that she ticked a lot of people off while she was there and a "serves her right" attitude set in.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:38 AM (Ee2nz)
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:34 AM (voOPb)
My daughters would never leave their mother's side LOL. One of my daughters was thinking of Joining the Navy and jokingly asked me if Mom could go with her to Boot Camp.
I know Mueller was an adult which is why I said she was an idiot also.
My daughters would never leave their mother's side LOL. One of my daughters was thinking of Joining the Navy and jokingly asked me if Mom could go with her to Boot Camp.
I know Mueller was an adult which is why I said she was an idiot also.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:38 AM (Ozsfq)
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I have small boys who hate sports.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (mgbwf)
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Children grow the way they grow. Even at 7,5,and 3 - I can start to see the strengths and weakness of each of my grands. They are made the way they are intended to be made, and the best we can do is to train them up in the way they should go.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (mgbwf)
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Children grow the way they grow. Even at 7,5,and 3 - I can start to see the strengths and weakness of each of my grands. They are made the way they are intended to be made, and the best we can do is to train them up in the way they should go.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:39 AM (dFi94)
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We got this. When we're not voting to give TFG everything he wants budget wise and stacking the procedural deck for his treaties, we've been sending sternly worded requests through official channels to investigate the Clinton crime syndicate.
These Judical Watch folks have nothing on us!
*as a carpenter places the finishing touches on the new PC bathroom design, which incorporates the space that used to be the house jail*
These Judical Watch folks have nothing on us!
*as a carpenter places the finishing touches on the new PC bathroom design, which incorporates the space that used to be the house jail*
Posted by: Jason Chaff-itz and prosecutor Howdy at August 26, 2016 08:39 AM (dCzEf)
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Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
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"Hilariously, one state is reportedly thinking about 30%-plus premium price increases for next year. Yup- that'll kill it."
Several states are contemplating huge increases. In Alabama, the average premium for individual policies is expected to increase 39%. That's after an average increase of 28% last year.
Also, because of Obamacare's increased competition, we have only one provider in the state now.
Several states are contemplating huge increases. In Alabama, the average premium for individual policies is expected to increase 39%. That's after an average increase of 28% last year.
Also, because of Obamacare's increased competition, we have only one provider in the state now.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (97XyN)
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Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
EXCEPT these cock suckers have been known to allow the enemy to set up HQ in their Hospitals!
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
EXCEPT these cock suckers have been known to allow the enemy to set up HQ in their Hospitals!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (Ozsfq)
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They are made the way they are intended to be made, and the best we can do is to train them up in the way they should go.
Oh yeah. My first rule of parenting is "do no harm". They are going to be the people they are, you trust try to give them support and feck them up as little as you can.
Oh yeah. My first rule of parenting is "do no harm". They are going to be the people they are, you trust try to give them support and feck them up as little as you can.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (mgbwf)
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Oh yeah. My first rule of parenting is "do no harm". They are going to be the people they are, you trust try to give them support and feck them up as little as you can.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (mgbwf)
Yup. I would hope that my kids learned by example. And, knock on wood or I guess what ever this MAC is made of, it worked.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (mgbwf)
Yup. I would hope that my kids learned by example. And, knock on wood or I guess what ever this MAC is made of, it worked.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:42 AM (Ozsfq)
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I have small boys who hate sports.Posted by: Bandersnatch
That can change in a heartbeat. I went from 5'4 to 5'11 in one year. Almost worst to first type scenario.
My daughters boys, same thing. From 50th percentile to nearly 100th percentile on height charts in a couple years.
You might still get a chance to see them in action in Beaver Stadium.
That can change in a heartbeat. I went from 5'4 to 5'11 in one year. Almost worst to first type scenario.
My daughters boys, same thing. From 50th percentile to nearly 100th percentile on height charts in a couple years.
You might still get a chance to see them in action in Beaver Stadium.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:44 AM (ZFUt7)
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"Sounds bad, but how do those figures compare against other ejection
seats?"
Badly. These aren't promising numbers. The military aeromedical community were reportedly agog when they saw the test results.
"Getting shot through a plexiglass bubble six inches above one's
head by a rocket chair is not a teacup ride at the state fair."
That wouldn't be too fun. The rule for a while now has been that either the entire canopy gets jettisoned early in the ejection sequence, or an embedded thread of explosive in the transparency shatters it to let the seat and aviator depart without being shredded in the process.
The problem specific to the F-35 is the _wunderwaffen_ virtual reality helmet. The thing is quite big and heavy compared to a traditional flight helmet. The brute physics of ejection -- the high initial acceleration and then the turbulent airloads once out of the jet -- don't match up well to such a massive draggy object on the ol' noggin.
seats?"
Badly. These aren't promising numbers. The military aeromedical community were reportedly agog when they saw the test results.
"Getting shot through a plexiglass bubble six inches above one's
head by a rocket chair is not a teacup ride at the state fair."
That wouldn't be too fun. The rule for a while now has been that either the entire canopy gets jettisoned early in the ejection sequence, or an embedded thread of explosive in the transparency shatters it to let the seat and aviator depart without being shredded in the process.
The problem specific to the F-35 is the _wunderwaffen_ virtual reality helmet. The thing is quite big and heavy compared to a traditional flight helmet. The brute physics of ejection -- the high initial acceleration and then the turbulent airloads once out of the jet -- don't match up well to such a massive draggy object on the ol' noggin.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:44 AM (noWW6)
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If she had been kidnapped I would hope to God that the organization she was working for would provide some assistance in getting her back.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
_______________________
Mueller was not working for DWB. Her boyfriend had been hired by DWB to install a computer system in a hospital in Syria. Mueller did not have any technical skills or knowledge. Her boyfriend did not need her assistance, did not ask for her assistance, and did not want her to accompany him. He tried to talk her out of going, but she insisted. She wanted to go to Syria so she could write about it on her blog.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
_______________________
Mueller was not working for DWB. Her boyfriend had been hired by DWB to install a computer system in a hospital in Syria. Mueller did not have any technical skills or knowledge. Her boyfriend did not need her assistance, did not ask for her assistance, and did not want her to accompany him. He tried to talk her out of going, but she insisted. She wanted to go to Syria so she could write about it on her blog.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (NnYnv)
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You might still get a chance to see them in action in Beaver Stadium.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:44 AM (ZFUt7)
Is that the Field in Beaver Falls PA?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:44 AM (ZFUt7)
Is that the Field in Beaver Falls PA?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (Ozsfq)
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Oh yeah. My first rule of parenting is "do no harm". They are going to
be the people they are, you trust try to give them support and feck them
up as little as you can.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Broke my friends heart, when that after 3 years of little league, his son told him, "ya know, I just don't care about playing baseball"
But the kid (now 30) loves him some hunting and fishing.
be the people they are, you trust try to give them support and feck them
up as little as you can.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Broke my friends heart, when that after 3 years of little league, his son told him, "ya know, I just don't care about playing baseball"
But the kid (now 30) loves him some hunting and fishing.
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (8ikIW)
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From Persecution.org:
9,144 total refugees, 47 Christians and 14 Yazidis have been admitted. The Obama administration admits that ISIS is committing genocide against Christians and Yazidis in Syria but will not prioritize any faith community during the application process
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Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (dFi94)
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OH NOES !!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:46 AM (dFi94)
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Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
EXCEPT these cock suckers have been known to allow the enemy to set up HQ in their Hospitals!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (Ozsfq)
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But that is not what 'Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".' relates to. Also, the party would theoretically be "a combatant" and not "the enemy" as well.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:32 AM (/m8T6)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
EXCEPT these cock suckers have been known to allow the enemy to set up HQ in their Hospitals!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:41 AM (Ozsfq)
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But that is not what 'Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime used to be called "collaboration" and "treason".' relates to. Also, the party would theoretically be "a combatant" and not "the enemy" as well.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:46 AM (NUqwG)
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PLEASE mention it in the headline if a link goes to a video. Or if there's an auto-play video.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 08:46 AM (AroJD)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:46 AM (dFi94)
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Mueller was not working for DWB. Her boyfriend had been hired by DWB to install a computer system in a hospital in Syria. Mueller did not have any technical skills or knowledge. Her boyfriend did not need her assistance, did not ask for her assistance, and did not want her to accompany him. He tried to talk her out of going, but she insisted. She wanted to go to Syria so she could write about it on her blog.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (NnYnv)
MAYBE if the MSM were more honest about the evil scum that ISIS and most muslim militias are and actually broadcast the executions, dopes like Mueller would not be so fuckin stupid? Sigh
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (NnYnv)
MAYBE if the MSM were more honest about the evil scum that ISIS and most muslim militias are and actually broadcast the executions, dopes like Mueller would not be so fuckin stupid? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:47 AM (Ozsfq)
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Speaking of medical stuff and general social decline:
About 50 hobos tied up most of the Travis County EMS yesterday, thanks to a new batch of K2 that was a bit too much for them:
http://tinyurl.com/zydy9u3
Where most of these cases were was right by Hobo Central in downtown Austin.
Ace and crew could have quite the safari here...just sayin'
About 50 hobos tied up most of the Travis County EMS yesterday, thanks to a new batch of K2 that was a bit too much for them:
http://tinyurl.com/zydy9u3
Where most of these cases were was right by Hobo Central in downtown Austin.
Ace and crew could have quite the safari here...just sayin'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:47 AM (lutOX)
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You might still get a chance to see them in action in Beaver Stadium.
That's a nice thought, but they're 19 and 23, so both growth spurts and a sudden passion for sports are out of the question.
They did turn out to be wonderful humans with passionate interests. I don't need them to be jocks, I'm just laughing at myself in thinking that the wife and I had the genetics for a couple of perfect jock machines.
That's a nice thought, but they're 19 and 23, so both growth spurts and a sudden passion for sports are out of the question.
They did turn out to be wonderful humans with passionate interests. I don't need them to be jocks, I'm just laughing at myself in thinking that the wife and I had the genetics for a couple of perfect jock machines.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:47 AM (mgbwf)
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Grammie Winger, please pick up the white courtesy phone. - The Barrel
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:48 AM (lutOX)
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Here grammie. (offers tyvek body suit and bottle of Mister Clean)
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at August 26, 2016 08:48 AM (JZJFW)
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Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:45 AM (dFi94)
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Is that a blog "safe space"?
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Is that a blog "safe space"?
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (NUqwG)
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Where most of these cases were was right by Hobo Central in downtown Austin.
Ace and crew could have quite the safari here...just sayin'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:47 AM (lutOX)
What's this K2 that I've been hearing about? Sounds like it's the newest fad in getting high?
Ace and crew could have quite the safari here...just sayin'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:47 AM (lutOX)
What's this K2 that I've been hearing about? Sounds like it's the newest fad in getting high?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (KUaJL)
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Is that the Field in Beaver Falls PA?Posted by: Nevergiveup
No. I can't mention the name, the h8ers will come out of the woodwork and piss all over the thread. Lets just say its located in the state of Pennsylvania.
No. I can't mention the name, the h8ers will come out of the woodwork and piss all over the thread. Lets just say its located in the state of Pennsylvania.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (ZFUt7)
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Ace and crew could have quite the safari here...just sayin'
I think that falls under the sportsmanship part of hunting.
Like shooting pheasants on the ground. Or baiting for deer.
I think that falls under the sportsmanship part of hunting.
Like shooting pheasants on the ground. Or baiting for deer.
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: The Barrel at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (mf5HN)
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If she had been kidnapped I would hope to God that the organization she was working for would provide some assistance in getting her back.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:34 AM (voOPb)
In that case though, your daughter is with an organization, not someone who just showed up.
As I said before, my gut tells me she ticked off a lot of people in DWB while she was there and they decided they weren't going to do anything to help her.
From reading articles about the Muellers, they are upset about the lack of assistance.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:34 AM (voOPb)
In that case though, your daughter is with an organization, not someone who just showed up.
As I said before, my gut tells me she ticked off a lot of people in DWB while she was there and they decided they weren't going to do anything to help her.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ee2nz)
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Speaking of Chicago my daughter is going there for Business this Sunday for a few days and I am trying to get her interested in The Cubs and baseball history...but so far she is not biting
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ozsfq)
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I thought K2 was a mountain in Tibet.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (AroJD)
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Grammie Winger, please pick up the white courtesy phone. - The Barrel
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What's that? I can't hear you - I'm in the Barrel.
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What's that? I can't hear you - I'm in the Barrel.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (noWW6)
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K2 seems to be some sort of synthetic cannabinoid or something.
Manufactured mostly in China, from what I understand, and then packaged here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
Manufactured mostly in China, from what I understand, and then packaged here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:51 AM (lutOX)
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Oh, grammie.
You know this is going to give me no pleasure, but there are rules.
Posted by: The Barrel at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (mgbw==============================================
And rightfully so. There's no flogging though - right?
Oh, grammie.
You know this is going to give me no pleasure, but there are rules.
Posted by: The Barrel at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (mgbw==============================================
And rightfully so. There's no flogging though - right?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (dFi94)
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The economy has been mired in Great Depression - II since 2009 and has shown no signs of recovery.
Except for about six counties surrounding Washington DC.
Except for about six counties surrounding Washington DC.
Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (O7MnT)
135
Student journalists at Ithaca College want their professors to incorporate diversity and inclusion into class discussions in every area of academia.
This PC crap is killing science.
This PC crap is killing science.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (Ozsfq)
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If The Barrel needs a day off, I've got time on my hands now. Plenty of room here.
Posted by: Hope Solo at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (gyKtp)
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grammie.
I will allow you to stay out of the Barrel as you are still in love and in the honeymoon aspect of your new marriage.
Had you been an old miserable person off you go
I will allow you to stay out of the Barrel as you are still in love and in the honeymoon aspect of your new marriage.
Had you been an old miserable person off you go
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (voOPb)
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K2 seems to be some sort of synthetic cannabinoid or something.
Manufactured mostly in China, from what I understand, and then packaged here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:51 AM (lutOX)
I thought K2 was a mountain.
Obligatory do you know the street value of this mountain joke here.
Manufactured mostly in China, from what I understand, and then packaged here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 08:51 AM (lutOX)
I thought K2 was a mountain.
Obligatory do you know the street value of this mountain joke here.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (mf5HN)
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Hilly decries conspiracy theory as she dusts off her VRWC paranoia from the 90s.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (uyrlv)
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Re: Obamacare - I saw an article yesterday which said prices in Ohio will increase 13% next year.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (vg8iE)
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Mis Hum - you are too good to me. And yes, I did see a bee down there.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (dFi94)
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128 Speaking of Chicago my daughter is going there for Business this Sunday for a few days and I am trying to get her interested in The Cubs and baseball history...but so far she is not biting
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ozsfq
Chicago?
Might as well let her go to Syria
128 Speaking of Chicago my daughter is going there for Business this Sunday for a few days and I am trying to get her interested in The Cubs and baseball history...but so far she is not biting
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ozsfq
Chicago?
Might as well let her go to Syria
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:54 AM (voOPb)
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I used NotePad and everything!
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To be safe use the Windows 1.0 version.
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To be safe use the Windows 1.0 version.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:54 AM (NUqwG)
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Trey Gowdy on fire yesterday regarding the Clinton emails. Talks about how nobody has asked Clinton if she considered foundation emails "personal" and therefore they were deleted. She also used "Bleachbit" which is a product used to wipe the server and make emails unrecoverable by anyone. That's deliberately destroying evidence you don't want anyone, including the FBI to see. Problem is they are being recovered from other sources. Which is why they are worried and on the attack.
http://tinyurl.com/zekkxpa
http://tinyurl.com/zekkxpa
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2016 08:54 AM (SkHxD)
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I thought K2 was a mountain.
Obligatory do you know the street value of this mountain joke here.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (mf5HN)
The K12, dude. You make a gnarly run like that & girls will get sterile just looking at you.
Obligatory do you know the street value of this mountain joke here.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (mf5HN)
The K12, dude. You make a gnarly run like that & girls will get sterile just looking at you.
Posted by: Charles De Mar at August 26, 2016 08:54 AM (7HtZB)
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I have small boys who hate sports.
I wanted jocks, I got musicians. I have to live vicariously through my sisters kids, who are uber-jocks.
I wanted jocks, I got musicians. I have to live vicariously through my sisters kids, who are uber-jocks.
Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 08:54 AM (O7MnT)
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Manufactured mostly in China, from what I understand, and then packaged
here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
That's what I bring up when people say all these different drugs they want to take are safer than alcohol.
No, I'm sorry, the good people at Anheuser Bush put out an always consistent and they do give a crap that at least the stuff they are putting in their beer isn't going to kill me.
I'm just using AB as an example. I embrace all beers. My favorite is the next one
here. Why people would want to do such a thing is more than I know.
That's what I bring up when people say all these different drugs they want to take are safer than alcohol.
No, I'm sorry, the good people at Anheuser Bush put out an always consistent and they do give a crap that at least the stuff they are putting in their beer isn't going to kill me.
I'm just using AB as an example. I embrace all beers. My favorite is the next one
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:55 AM (8ikIW)
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93 Love the F-35 program.
Sure, it's got massive cost over-runs, and won't be combat ready EVER, but at least it's dangerous to its pilots.
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Maybe they'll just convert the jet to a massively expensive drone platform. Probably wouldn't be that hard to do since its already so networked.
Sure, it's got massive cost over-runs, and won't be combat ready EVER, but at least it's dangerous to its pilots.
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Maybe they'll just convert the jet to a massively expensive drone platform. Probably wouldn't be that hard to do since its already so networked.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 08:55 AM (/m8T6)
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Also, because of Obamacare's increased competition, we have only one provider in the state now.
Chocolate rations have been INCREASED from 20 grams to 10 grams!
Chocolate rations have been INCREASED from 20 grams to 10 grams!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 08:56 AM (Cd8NC)
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Except for about six counties surrounding Washington DC.Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 08:52 AM (O7MnT)
I made the mistake - once - of thinking I could go south on interstate 95 through those counties one weekend morning. Sixty thousand dollar SUV's everywhere in a 70 mph speed zone. Traveling 0 miles per hour.
I made the mistake - once - of thinking I could go south on interstate 95 through those counties one weekend morning. Sixty thousand dollar SUV's everywhere in a 70 mph speed zone. Traveling 0 miles per hour.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:56 AM (ZFUt7)
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>>I will allow you to stay out of the Barrel as you are still in love and in the honeymoon aspect of your new marriage.
WHAT??
Our union rep will hear about this.
WHAT??
Our union rep will hear about this.
Posted by: Barrel Bees at August 26, 2016 08:56 AM (gTQoY)
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What's this K2 that I've been hearing about? Sounds like it's the newest fad in getting high?
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It's sounds like some of the names the pushers were giving their stock in "The Wire".
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It's sounds like some of the names the pushers were giving their stock in "The Wire".
Posted by: auscolpyr at August 26, 2016 08:56 AM (suO/a)
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Re: Obamacare - I saw an article yesterday which said prices in Ohio will increase 13% next year.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (vg8iE)
It's probably going to be worse. I personally know from the letter I received that MMO is pulling out of the exchange.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 26, 2016 08:53 AM (vg8iE)
It's probably going to be worse. I personally know from the letter I received that MMO is pulling out of the exchange.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 26, 2016 08:56 AM (Ee2nz)
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And rightfully so. There's no flogging though - right?
Posted by: grammie winger
I believe due to the economy, it's an extra charge now.
Posted by: grammie winger
I believe due to the economy, it's an extra charge now.
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (X6fMO)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ozsfq)
Your a Bud man and a Cubs fan!
If nothing else tell her to take the river cruise on the Chicago River. U can stay on the thing and just cruise up and down, view the buildings and fun-seekers on the river. some craft have musicians and all serve beverages.
Your a Bud man and a Cubs fan!
If nothing else tell her to take the river cruise on the Chicago River. U can stay on the thing and just cruise up and down, view the buildings and fun-seekers on the river. some craft have musicians and all serve beverages.
Posted by: Zombie Harry Carry at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (JZJFW)
Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (ANVXm)
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Your a Bud man and a Cubs fan!
If nothing else tell her to take the river cruise on the Chicago River. U can stay on the thing and just cruise up and down, view the buildings and fun-seekers on the river. some craft have musicians and all serve beverages.
Posted by: Zombie Harry Carry at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (JZJFW)
No actually i am a Yankee fan. She is going to Chicago, not me. I stay here in NJ to suffer.
If nothing else tell her to take the river cruise on the Chicago River. U can stay on the thing and just cruise up and down, view the buildings and fun-seekers on the river. some craft have musicians and all serve beverages.
Posted by: Zombie Harry Carry at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (JZJFW)
No actually i am a Yankee fan. She is going to Chicago, not me. I stay here in NJ to suffer.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:59 AM (Ozsfq)
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She's really a homely woman. They want her in a Burka.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:24 AM (voOPb)
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And I want Hillary in a burka for the same reason. I don't hold out much hope though.
Never got that pony either.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 26, 2016 08:24 AM (voOPb)
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And I want Hillary in a burka for the same reason. I don't hold out much hope though.
Never got that pony either.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 08:59 AM (805dc)
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I believe due to the economy, it's an extra charge now.
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (8ikIW)
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Good thing I'm poor.
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 08:57 AM (8ikIW)
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Good thing I'm poor.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 08:59 AM (dFi94)
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Only one insurer for O care in my county. Blue Cross, they will however raise their rates 30 percent.
WINNING!!!
WINNING!!!
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 09:00 AM (8ikIW)
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MAYBE if the MSM were more honest about the evil scum that ISIS and most muslim militias are and actually broadcast the executions, dopes like Mueller would not be so fuckin stupid? Sigh
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Maybe, but we live in a country where the media refused to show all the people falling/jumping out of the WTC on and after 9/11, because they were afraid it might cause "anti-Muslim" backlash.
On the 10th anniversary of 9/11, I spent the day looking at some of the YouTube videos I had not seen before. Horrible stuff. Dozens of office workers trapped on one floor, most had stripped down to their underwear due to the intense heat, hanging out of the windows, gasping for air, crying, waving signs asking for help. Another video of a lone woman, wandering around (appeared to be in shock) on one floor that was in ruins, with the outer wall missing. She comes to the edge and peers out, then goes back to walking around. No way out. Audio tape of some poor guy trapped with some others, calling 911, asking why no one has come to help them; it's been hours. His voice breaking, he says he and the other have young kids at home, they're not ready to die yet. Then you hear him screaming in terror at the end just before the connection breaks.
But the media won't play that stuff, and won't let anyone talk about the millions of Muslims that Obama has imported here since 9/11, or the hundreds of thousands more Syrians that Hillary has promised to import if she's elected. No, we just get more happy-talk bullshit about how wonderful "diversity" is, and how anybody who says otherwise is just a hateful bigot and raaaaaacist.
It's no wonder young Americans like Kayla Mueller are so clueless about Muslim terrorists. The MSM and the education system in the U.S. don't want them to know the truth, and work very hard to keep it from them.
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Maybe, but we live in a country where the media refused to show all the people falling/jumping out of the WTC on and after 9/11, because they were afraid it might cause "anti-Muslim" backlash.
On the 10th anniversary of 9/11, I spent the day looking at some of the YouTube videos I had not seen before. Horrible stuff. Dozens of office workers trapped on one floor, most had stripped down to their underwear due to the intense heat, hanging out of the windows, gasping for air, crying, waving signs asking for help. Another video of a lone woman, wandering around (appeared to be in shock) on one floor that was in ruins, with the outer wall missing. She comes to the edge and peers out, then goes back to walking around. No way out. Audio tape of some poor guy trapped with some others, calling 911, asking why no one has come to help them; it's been hours. His voice breaking, he says he and the other have young kids at home, they're not ready to die yet. Then you hear him screaming in terror at the end just before the connection breaks.
But the media won't play that stuff, and won't let anyone talk about the millions of Muslims that Obama has imported here since 9/11, or the hundreds of thousands more Syrians that Hillary has promised to import if she's elected. No, we just get more happy-talk bullshit about how wonderful "diversity" is, and how anybody who says otherwise is just a hateful bigot and raaaaaacist.
It's no wonder young Americans like Kayla Mueller are so clueless about Muslim terrorists. The MSM and the education system in the U.S. don't want them to know the truth, and work very hard to keep it from them.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (NnYnv)
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I think it was Dana Perino who yesterday said Hillary's speech wasn't fear of polling data, or losing the black vote. It was the final destruction of the GOP.
Perhaps she is right. If there was ever a time to do it, it is now. The GOP itself isn't supporting the GOP.
I cannot believe what I'm watching. Petulance run rampant.
I think it was Dana Perino who yesterday said Hillary's speech wasn't fear of polling data, or losing the black vote. It was the final destruction of the GOP.
Perhaps she is right. If there was ever a time to do it, it is now. The GOP itself isn't supporting the GOP.
I cannot believe what I'm watching. Petulance run rampant.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (qCMvj)
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Doctors Without Borders despicable actions
The picture of Obama in that article is just perfect. Captures his concern over an American life.
The picture of Obama in that article is just perfect. Captures his concern over an American life.
Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (RrDm2)
Posted by: Barrel Bees at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (gTQoY)
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I have small boys who hate sports.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (mgbwf)
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That's okay. Hopefully they inherited their dad's artistic talent.
There's height on my side of the family, but not my husband's. They all got my husband's height genes. My boys are taller than me, by a few inches, but I still reign supreme over my girls.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 08:35 AM (mgbwf)
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That's okay. Hopefully they inherited their dad's artistic talent.
There's height on my side of the family, but not my husband's. They all got my husband's height genes. My boys are taller than me, by a few inches, but I still reign supreme over my girls.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (805dc)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (qCMvj)
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Stupid and ignorant people are bad for Democracy and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
What rational argument could anyone possibly raise against my position?
What rational argument could anyone possibly raise against my position?
Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 09:02 AM (O7MnT)
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162 Only one insurer for O care in my county. Blue Cross, they will however raise their rates 30 percent.
WINNING!!!
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 09:00 AM (8ikIW)
We have Blue Cross "silver" plan now. $1583.00 per month for the wife and I.
And the rates are suppose to go up.
WINNING!!!
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 09:00 AM (8ikIW)
We have Blue Cross "silver" plan now. $1583.00 per month for the wife and I.
And the rates are suppose to go up.
Posted by: jwest at August 26, 2016 09:02 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:02 AM (qUNWi)
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I cannot believe what I'm watching. Petulance run rampant.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (qCMvj)
Yup and we even see that on this Blog
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 26, 2016 09:01 AM (qCMvj)
Yup and we even see that on this Blog
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 09:02 AM (Ozsfq)
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No actually i am a Yankee fan. She is going to Chicago, not me. I stay here in NJ to suffer.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:59 AM (Ozsfq)
Share this with her: http://heyjackass.com/
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:59 AM (Ozsfq)
Share this with her: http://heyjackass.com/
Posted by: Zombie Harry Carry at August 26, 2016 09:02 AM (JZJFW)
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The Barrel Bees are a couple months behind in rent, grammie.
We may be able to work something out.
We may be able to work something out.
Posted by: The Barrel at August 26, 2016 09:03 AM (mgbwf)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 08:50 AM (Ozsfq)
My sister wasn't interested in baseball until her 40's. Then the baseball bug bit her. Now she's quite knowledgable about it.
I have 3 siblings. The two older ones are baseball fans because we all have memories of our baseball loving mom taking us to day games at County Stadium to see the Braves. Even though I was far too little to know what was going on, I associated baseball with fun times and summer. The Braves left when my younger brother was a toddler and he has no memory of them. He is interested only in football. Maybe that early exposure influences kids in some way even when they are not paying attention.
My sister wasn't interested in baseball until her 40's. Then the baseball bug bit her. Now she's quite knowledgable about it.
I have 3 siblings. The two older ones are baseball fans because we all have memories of our baseball loving mom taking us to day games at County Stadium to see the Braves. Even though I was far too little to know what was going on, I associated baseball with fun times and summer. The Braves left when my younger brother was a toddler and he has no memory of them. He is interested only in football. Maybe that early exposure influences kids in some way even when they are not paying attention.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands at August 26, 2016 09:03 AM (P8951)
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Woman dumps bucket of crickets & worms on subway & then pisses herself. Only in Florida New York.
The most disturbing part of the story? She's wearing crocs.
http://tinyurl.com/zbgq4u2
The most disturbing part of the story? She's wearing crocs.
http://tinyurl.com/zbgq4u2
Posted by: josephistan at August 26, 2016 09:04 AM (7HtZB)
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Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 26, 2016 08:49 AM (ZFUt7)
Hey, only reason I h8 is because I lived there for 4 years. Well, technically two years was in Boalsburg. If it's any consolation, I hate the university and the town impartially.
Hey, only reason I h8 is because I lived there for 4 years. Well, technically two years was in Boalsburg. If it's any consolation, I hate the university and the town impartially.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 26, 2016 09:04 AM (GDulk)
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*talks into mic*
Cancel the extraction team. The Cheesehead is secure. I repeat ... the cheesehead is secure.
Cancel the extraction team. The Cheesehead is secure. I repeat ... the cheesehead is secure.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 26, 2016 09:04 AM (qoKAm)
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DAY 1,389
74 to go (147 to Inauguration Day )
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, Milwaukee mayhem, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, malicious mosquitos, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
DAY 1,389
74 to go (147 to Inauguration Day )
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, Milwaukee mayhem, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, malicious mosquitos, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2016 09:05 AM (ItPma)
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grammie, quite a day for you. The bees are gone (allegedly), and you got a pass from the Barrel.
I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.
I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:05 AM (805dc)
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JJ - how's Japan?
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (805dc)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (ItPma)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (6urbU)
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Barrel Bees are the worst kind of bees. If you flunk Bee School, they make you a Barrel Bee. It's awful down there. The buzzing. The stinging. The anaphylactic shock. The lack of Epipens.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (Ozsfq)
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Including medical aid? Not according to international law and norms of civilized conduct.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
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This is an opinion, right? Thought experiment: If an French medical team provided battlefield medical care to German troops in WW2, would other French have regarded that group as collaborators? Of course.
"International law" and "norms of civilized conduct" are terms of art, and being used here by the poster to disguise a personal opinion.
These doctors are providing medical care to help jihadists return to the Syrian battlefield, for the purpose of butchering Shiites, Christians, enslaving women hey happen across along the way. It isn't "civilized conduct" to provide these people medical care, its despicable.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 08:40 AM (NUqwG)
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This is an opinion, right? Thought experiment: If an French medical team provided battlefield medical care to German troops in WW2, would other French have regarded that group as collaborators? Of course.
"International law" and "norms of civilized conduct" are terms of art, and being used here by the poster to disguise a personal opinion.
These doctors are providing medical care to help jihadists return to the Syrian battlefield, for the purpose of butchering Shiites, Christians, enslaving women hey happen across along the way. It isn't "civilized conduct" to provide these people medical care, its despicable.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (/m8T6)
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Maybe that early exposure influences kids in some way even when they are not paying attention.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands at August 26, 2016 09:03 AM (P8951)
I love sports in no small part because my dad traveled a lot for work, as in 3-5 days a week, and when he was home watching football and baseball together was a fun time.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands at August 26, 2016 09:03 AM (P8951)
I love sports in no small part because my dad traveled a lot for work, as in 3-5 days a week, and when he was home watching football and baseball together was a fun time.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (mf5HN)
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My sister wasn't interested in baseball until her 40's. Then the baseball bug bit her. Now she's quite knowledgable about it.
I have always loved hockey, but didn't get the football bug until I was in my thirties.
The appeal of basketball still eludes me, however. To me it's as repetitive as tennis, and only a lot less boring than kickball. (Or as some Americans call it, futbol.')
I have always loved hockey, but didn't get the football bug until I was in my thirties.
The appeal of basketball still eludes me, however. To me it's as repetitive as tennis, and only a lot less boring than kickball. (Or as some Americans call it, futbol.')
Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (O7MnT)
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I mean, I'm not against Barrel Bees. It's a nice value added service.
But do you know what the face-sized spiders do? They pay rent. On time.
The Hentai Squid pays in advance!
The various odors and effluids are right up to date.
But the Barrel Bees? They're all like "oh, we're barrel bees you should just be happy we grace you with our presence".
But do you know what the face-sized spiders do? They pay rent. On time.
The Hentai Squid pays in advance!
The various odors and effluids are right up to date.
But the Barrel Bees? They're all like "oh, we're barrel bees you should just be happy we grace you with our presence".
Posted by: The Barrel at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (mgbwf)
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grammie ... were the bees yellow or gold ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (qoKAm)
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In case you havent heard, the voice of Choo Choo on Top Cat cartoon has died.
Marvin Kaplan was also in Its A Mad Mad Mad Mad World and a regular on Alice.
In case you havent heard, the voice of Choo Choo on Top Cat cartoon has died.
Marvin Kaplan was also in Its A Mad Mad Mad Mad World and a regular on Alice.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (6urbU)
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I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:05 AM (805dc)
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Would you believe I've never bought one of those? I don't even know how to do it. It looks like there are a lot of different games or whatever they call them. I would have to use a hobo to help me out.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:05 AM (805dc)
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Would you believe I've never bought one of those? I don't even know how to do it. It looks like there are a lot of different games or whatever they call them. I would have to use a hobo to help me out.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)
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Sigh.... radio news gave an update...
17 more hobos overdosed on K2 and needed ambulance transport since midnight......
We're up to 70 since yesterday......
Dammit....these freakin' hobo junkies.....
17 more hobos overdosed on K2 and needed ambulance transport since midnight......
We're up to 70 since yesterday......
Dammit....these freakin' hobo junkies.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid channels Red Beckman at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (JZJFW)
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Barrel Bees are the worst kind of bees. If you flunk Bee School, they make you a Barrel Bee. It's awful down there. The buzzing. The stinging. The anaphylactic shock. The lack of Epipens.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (dFi94)
Obligatory: https://youtu.be/-1GadTfGFvU
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:06 AM (dFi94)
Obligatory: https://youtu.be/-1GadTfGFvU
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 09:09 AM (mf5HN)
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grammie ... were the bees yellow or gold ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (qoKAm)
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Wisconsin bees are always gold. With little green numbers on their backs.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (qoKAm)
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Wisconsin bees are always gold. With little green numbers on their backs.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:09 AM (dFi94)
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Would you believe I've never bought one of those? I don't even know how to do it. It looks like there are a lot of different games or whatever they call them. I would have to use a hobo to help me out.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)
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grammie, I never have either. I wouldn't know the first thing, except maybe you have to go to a gas station or 7-11 to get them. I only know that through hearsay.
We go to dinner on Christmas Eve at our friends' house every year, and the husband always buys lottery tickets for everyone and passes them out after dinner. I can never figure out what I'm supposed to do with mine. Pitiful.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)
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grammie, I never have either. I wouldn't know the first thing, except maybe you have to go to a gas station or 7-11 to get them. I only know that through hearsay.
We go to dinner on Christmas Eve at our friends' house every year, and the husband always buys lottery tickets for everyone and passes them out after dinner. I can never figure out what I'm supposed to do with mine. Pitiful.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:10 AM (805dc)
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U eaten at Applebees lately?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid channels Red Beckman
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Last time I was at Applebees there were neither apples nor bees.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid channels Red Beckman
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Last time I was at Applebees there were neither apples nor bees.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (lh7g2)
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Need FenSpoke -- turn that barrel into a carrel with one stroke! Yeah, I'm watching a lot of kids reading shows.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (MIKMs)
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"International law" and "norms of civilized conduct" are terms of art, and being used here by the poster to disguise a personal opinion.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (/m8T6)
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The Geneva Conventions are certainly opinion but hardly personal to me.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 09:07 AM (/m8T6)
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The Geneva Conventions are certainly opinion but hardly personal to me.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (NUqwG)
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Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 09:09 AM (mf5HN)
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Oh. My. Gosh!
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Oh. My. Gosh!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (dFi94)
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Marvin Kaplan was one of the two doofuses that got their butts kicked by Jonathan Winters.
I loved that scene.
I loved that scene.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (qUNWi)
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184 Barrel Bees are the worst kind of bees....
U eaten at Applebees lately?
I was driving down a highway once at night, and at one of the exits there was an Applebees, but the "apple" part of the sign was burnt out. So it just said "BEES."
184 Barrel Bees are the worst kind of bees....
U eaten at Applebees lately?
I was driving down a highway once at night, and at one of the exits there was an Applebees, but the "apple" part of the sign was burnt out. So it just said "BEES."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (AroJD)
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All-Schoolboy. Coohoo. Junior High.
Posted by: harry reid's parrot at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (LdMbv)
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Marvin Kaplan was one of the two doofuses that got their butts kicked by Jonathan Winters.
I loved that scene.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (qUNWi)
Wow I remember that scene.
I loved that scene.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (qUNWi)
Wow I remember that scene.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (Ozsfq)
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Something.
As directed, I have typed 'something'.
Ok, what's next for the sign up process for this super secret military blog?
I was told there would be juicy stuff here.
Oh, and 'please' and 'thank you', magic words. What do they do?
Something.
As directed, I have typed 'something'.
Ok, what's next for the sign up process for this super secret military blog?
I was told there would be juicy stuff here.
Oh, and 'please' and 'thank you', magic words. What do they do?
Posted by: Wislan Purest at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (0LmgR)
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This is both awesome and hilarious.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2659828-andrew-luck-upgrades-flip-phone-to-another-flip-phone
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2659828-andrew-luck-upgrades-flip-phone-to-another-flip-phone
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (mf5HN)
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Yeah, I'm watching a lot of kids reading shows.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (MIKMs)
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Maybe you should watch cooking shows instead. They might show you how to operate your oven. You never know.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (MIKMs)
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Maybe you should watch cooking shows instead. They might show you how to operate your oven. You never know.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:13 AM (805dc)
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Like you have advance notice of a heart attack.
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
To whom it may concern,
As you may not know, I have been quite unhappy in my employment within this organization for some time.
Therefore I am planning to go on strike at 3:15pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2016.
Now, don't blame yourself.
It's really nobody's fault.
...Except maybe....Daaad! Oh, I wanted to be a Pancreas. But, no! That wasn't good enough for him. We're Cardiac Muscles not some la-di-da Pancreas, he'd always say!
Well, what about my dreams, Daaaaad! What about my dreams!!!!!
...
...
...
*ahem*
Well anyway. Strike. Tuesday. 3:15pm
Cordially,
Posted by: creeper at August 26, 2016 07:45 AM (MP6Qb)
To whom it may concern,
As you may not know, I have been quite unhappy in my employment within this organization for some time.
Therefore I am planning to go on strike at 3:15pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2016.
Now, don't blame yourself.
It's really nobody's fault.
...Except maybe....Daaad! Oh, I wanted to be a Pancreas. But, no! That wasn't good enough for him. We're Cardiac Muscles not some la-di-da Pancreas, he'd always say!
Well, what about my dreams, Daaaaad! What about my dreams!!!!!
...
...
...
*ahem*
Well anyway. Strike. Tuesday. 3:15pm
Cordially,
Posted by: Your Cardiac Muscle at August 26, 2016 09:14 AM (HGtd0)
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Complexity in a system is good for corruption:
Mylan says it just cut the price of EpiPens in half - but here's the fine print
In other words, coupons reduce the cost to the patient at the point of sale, increasing access, yes, but also helping companies retain consumers who might otherwise be tempted to seek out more affordable options. And the list price paid by insurers remains high.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hxz5ncw
Mylan says it just cut the price of EpiPens in half - but here's the fine print
In other words, coupons reduce the cost to the patient at the point of sale, increasing access, yes, but also helping companies retain consumers who might otherwise be tempted to seek out more affordable options. And the list price paid by insurers remains high.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hxz5ncw
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 26, 2016 09:14 AM (uyrlv)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 26, 2016 09:15 AM (dFi94)
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I was driving down a highway once at night, and at one of the exits there was an Applebees, but the "apple" part of the sign was burnt out. So it just said "BEES."
On the same theme:
There was a place near my old apartment that rented tools. They had a lit sign that said "RENTAL TOOLS."
One day the T burned out, so it said "REN AL TOOLS"
Nephrologists were lining up outside.
On the same theme:
There was a place near my old apartment that rented tools. They had a lit sign that said "RENTAL TOOLS."
One day the T burned out, so it said "REN AL TOOLS"
Nephrologists were lining up outside.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:15 AM (PFy0L)
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205 Marvin Kaplan was one of the two doofuses that got their butts kicked by Jonathan Winters.
I loved that scene.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (qUNWi)
Wow I remember that scene.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (Ozsfq)
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I love that whole movie. Years ago, when it came out on VHS, I bought it for my husband for Christmas. I wondered whether it was be as funny now as it was when I was a kid.
Oh my. We laughed our heads off. We watched it with our kids so much that we all knew every scene.
When it came out on DVD we got that too, and immediately we realized that they had cut some scenes out. We were quite indignant.
I loved that scene.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (qUNWi)
Wow I remember that scene.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2016 09:12 AM (Ozsfq)
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I love that whole movie. Years ago, when it came out on VHS, I bought it for my husband for Christmas. I wondered whether it was be as funny now as it was when I was a kid.
Oh my. We laughed our heads off. We watched it with our kids so much that we all knew every scene.
When it came out on DVD we got that too, and immediately we realized that they had cut some scenes out. We were quite indignant.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:15 AM (805dc)
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WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth was a bit more sluggish than initially thought in the second quarter as businesses aggressively ran down stocks of unsold goods, offsetting a spurt in consumer spending.
WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth was a bit more sluggish than initially thought in the second quarter as businesses aggressively ran down stocks of unsold goods, offsetting a spurt in consumer spending.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:16 AM (IqV8l)
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Hillary finished 20 or minutes on Morning Joe an because she calmly called millions of Americans radical racists, the panel was just wowed.
What bunch of gullible idiots.
What bunch of gullible idiots.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 26, 2016 09:16 AM (0+WqX)
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Judicial Watch is also doing the job the Republican Party has given up on.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at August 26, 2016 09:16 AM (1eC43)
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WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth was a bit more sluggish than initially thought in the second quarter as businesses aggressively ran down stocks of unsold goods, offsetting a spurt in consumer spending.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:16 AM (IqV8l)
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Channel-stuffing, they call it.
WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth was a bit more sluggish than initially thought in the second quarter as businesses aggressively ran down stocks of unsold goods, offsetting a spurt in consumer spending.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:16 AM (IqV8l)
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Channel-stuffing, they call it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:17 AM (lutOX)
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:17 AM (805dc)
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Maybe you should watch cooking shows instead. They might show you how to operate your oven. You never know. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:13 AM (805dc)
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I love cooking shows. Even better than golf to watch behind closed eyelids.
(I do want to know why their ovens have regular old dials rather than impossible programming stuff -- must be richer folk than me.)
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I love cooking shows. Even better than golf to watch behind closed eyelids.
(I do want to know why their ovens have regular old dials rather than impossible programming stuff -- must be richer folk than me.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 26, 2016 09:17 AM (MIKMs)
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I don't think most people understand that right now we are fighting for our lives and it has nothing to do with the GOP.
You go to war with what you have, not what you want.
You go to war with what you have, not what you want.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2016 09:17 AM (SkHxD)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:17 AM (6urbU)
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this has been a long week......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, whatever at August 26, 2016 09:18 AM (0O7c5)
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Over the course of history, many governments have used the Lottery as a way to raise money. It's a voluntary tax.
The reason it does so well is that it provides a ray of hope to those who wouldn't have anything else to hope for.
Sure, the odds are astronomical, but people see it as a fair chance to win riches they would never be able to get any other way.
The reason it does so well is that it provides a ray of hope to those who wouldn't have anything else to hope for.
Sure, the odds are astronomical, but people see it as a fair chance to win riches they would never be able to get any other way.
Posted by: jwest at August 26, 2016 09:18 AM (Zs4uk)
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If you say "barrel bee" quickly enough, it might remind you of a lesser-known Herman Melville story about a bee who would prefer not to sting anyone.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2016 09:18 AM (X6fMO)
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Hillary finished 20 or minutes on Morning Joe an because she calmly called millions of Americans radical racists, the panel was just wowed.
I had that on because I love Morning Joe but I didn't hear a word of it.
As soon as she starts speaking everything turns into white noise, or mauve noise, or whatever the worst color of noise is.
I honestly can't hear the words.
I had that on because I love Morning Joe but I didn't hear a word of it.
As soon as she starts speaking everything turns into white noise, or mauve noise, or whatever the worst color of noise is.
I honestly can't hear the words.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:18 AM (mgbwf)
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BarrellBee The Scrivener
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 09:19 AM (AroJD)
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K2, aka 'Spice', is not a single distinct organic molecule. It is a variety of synthetic analogues of the molecule THC, the active ingredient in pot. As one analogue gets banned, they make another new unique molecule to get around the ban.
And you won't test positive for THC if you use an analogue, in general. So the new analogue is temporarily legal, and won't cause you to fail a piss test. That's the attractions of the analogues.
The downsides, however, are fucking massive. THC has been empirically tested by humans for thousands of years; it's effects and side effects are well known. But you start monkeying with the base molecule, and NOBODY knows how it will react with your body.
There are *thousands* of possible THC analogues.
And you won't test positive for THC if you use an analogue, in general. So the new analogue is temporarily legal, and won't cause you to fail a piss test. That's the attractions of the analogues.
The downsides, however, are fucking massive. THC has been empirically tested by humans for thousands of years; it's effects and side effects are well known. But you start monkeying with the base molecule, and NOBODY knows how it will react with your body.
There are *thousands* of possible THC analogues.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 09:19 AM (gyKtp)
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Who was the other doofus?
Norman Fell?
Phil Silvers?
Don Rickles?
Phil Silvers was the guy that got conned into driving his car into a gulley by a kid.
Norman Fell?
Phil Silvers?
Don Rickles?
Phil Silvers was the guy that got conned into driving his car into a gulley by a kid.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:20 AM (qUNWi)
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I'm trying to catch the hockey bug because it looks fun. I know nothing about it though.
Now off to see the doctor and see if he can tell me why my knee doesn't seem to be healing.
Now off to see the doctor and see if he can tell me why my knee doesn't seem to be healing.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. whitely brandishing ampersands at August 26, 2016 09:21 AM (P8951)
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Arnold Stang was doofus #2.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:21 AM (qUNWi)
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I also liked The Boatniks
I also liked The Boatniks
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:21 AM (6urbU)
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Now off to see the doctor and see if he can tell me why my knee doesn't seem to be healing.
Probably a case of bees knees.
Probably a case of bees knees.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:22 AM (mgbwf)
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Marvin Kaplan was also in Its A Mad Mad Mad Mad World and a regular on Alice.
I've told this story before, but for those who haven't read it: during the filming of Mad World, a small piece of land owned by the songwriter Jimmy Van Heusen was rented by United Artists to build the Ray and Irwin gas station. One day, on his way to the local airport, Van Heusen saw the set and figured it was a real station which his agent had allowed to be constructed there.
Over the weekend, director Stanley Kramer shot Jonathan Winters' demolition of the station. Come Monday morning, Van Heusen drives back from the airport and, seeing the destruction, races home and frantically calls up his agent,, deathly afraid that the station had blown up over the weekend and he was going to be sued over it!
I've told this story before, but for those who haven't read it: during the filming of Mad World, a small piece of land owned by the songwriter Jimmy Van Heusen was rented by United Artists to build the Ray and Irwin gas station. One day, on his way to the local airport, Van Heusen saw the set and figured it was a real station which his agent had allowed to be constructed there.
Over the weekend, director Stanley Kramer shot Jonathan Winters' demolition of the station. Come Monday morning, Van Heusen drives back from the airport and, seeing the destruction, races home and frantically calls up his agent,, deathly afraid that the station had blown up over the weekend and he was going to be sued over it!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2016 09:22 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (PFy0L)
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Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2016 09:19 AM (gyKtp)
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it's also, evidently, a lot cheaper than the real thing.
And it seems to cause tachycardia, psychosis, etc., etc., to judge by the reports we've been getting here in Austin.
***
it's also, evidently, a lot cheaper than the real thing.
And it seems to cause tachycardia, psychosis, etc., etc., to judge by the reports we've been getting here in Austin.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (lutOX)
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I was driving down a highway once at night, and at one of the exits there was an Applebees, but the "apple" part of the sign was burnt out. So it just said "BEES."
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The other day I was driving past a cemetery with a storage locker place right next to it. So hanging on the fence right by the cemetery gates was a sign that read "First Month Free!" Eh, I thought it was funny.
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The other day I was driving past a cemetery with a storage locker place right next to it. So hanging on the fence right by the cemetery gates was a sign that read "First Month Free!" Eh, I thought it was funny.
Posted by: josephistan at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (7HtZB)
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I still have no idea what "alt right"t means except it's a code word for Storm Front Types and I've always thought Alex Jones is really "out there" about some things (Although I've rarely checked his site) but this vide from info wars does make some sense:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zuz224y
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zuz224y
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
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Y'all are so hateful.
We're going to start self-identifying as elephants.
FYI, we're going to need a bigger barrel...
We're going to start self-identifying as elephants.
FYI, we're going to need a bigger barrel...
Posted by: Barrel Bees at August 26, 2016 09:24 AM (gTQoY)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:24 AM (6urbU)
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MP4, that is a great story. I love that movie. It might be my favorite of all time. I'm not very sophisticated. And I like to laugh.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:26 AM (805dc)
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When it came out on DVD we got that too, and immediately we realized that they had cut some scenes out. We were quite indignant.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:15 AM (805dc)
Bluebell, there is a 5-disc Blu-Ray set that came out in 2014 which has as much of the extra footage cut for commercial broadcast restored as possible:
goo.gl/pFEORJ
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:15 AM (805dc)
Bluebell, there is a 5-disc Blu-Ray set that came out in 2014 which has as much of the extra footage cut for commercial broadcast restored as possible:
goo.gl/pFEORJ
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2016 09:26 AM (X6fMO)
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Who was the other doofus?
Posted by: M Magoo's
Arnold Stang
Two Top Cat voices in one gas station.
Who was the other doofus?
Posted by: M Magoo's
Arnold Stang
Two Top Cat voices in one gas station.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:26 AM (IqV8l)
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The Geneva Conventions are certainly opinion but hardly personal to me.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (NUqwG)
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The treaties don't apply here. First, they only cover signatories and, second, they only allow for humanitarian aid to those who have left the battlefield or were innocent victims of the conflict (collateral).
Neither instance applies here.
What we are talking about is supplying medical aid on the battlefield to jihadists whose full time job is the slaughter of innocents.
That's a despicable, disgusting thing, and (in my own opinion) MSF should be condemned for it.
The Geneva Conventions are certainly opinion but hardly personal to me.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:11 AM (NUqwG)
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The treaties don't apply here. First, they only cover signatories and, second, they only allow for humanitarian aid to those who have left the battlefield or were innocent victims of the conflict (collateral).
Neither instance applies here.
What we are talking about is supplying medical aid on the battlefield to jihadists whose full time job is the slaughter of innocents.
That's a despicable, disgusting thing, and (in my own opinion) MSF should be condemned for it.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (/m8T6)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
It's not really "Stormfront types". Stormfronters are idiots who wave Nazi flags and worship Hitler. The alt-righters don't do that (well, most of them don't). They are conservatives who have embraced identity politics for white people. They explicitly say that the government should reduce *non-white* immigration, for instance. They want America for Whites.
It's not really "Stormfront types". Stormfronters are idiots who wave Nazi flags and worship Hitler. The alt-righters don't do that (well, most of them don't). They are conservatives who have embraced identity politics for white people. They explicitly say that the government should reduce *non-white* immigration, for instance. They want America for Whites.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (uAvJJ)
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When things get bad over the next 8 years or so, when opportunities disappear, our financial situation becomes less secure, our freedoms are taken away, we no longer have a Constituion that is followed, the courts are corrupted, breakdowns in order are the norm, government has grown to an uncontrollable behemoth and the state rules our children lives, people like the Morning Douche and his acolytes, the #nevertrumpers, "conservatives, and the other quislings can take comfort, at the same time they are deflecting blame, that they helped crush any semblance of hope with their personal stupidity. Because there will be a time of reckoning for people engaging in out personal destruction and I only hope it comes sooner rather that later.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (SkHxD)
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Thanks, MP4. I shall have to check that out.
We kept the VHSes (it's a two tape movie, it's so long) and that's what we use when we watch it, which we haven't done for a long time.
Might be time to break it out again - we could use some laughs right about now the way this year has gone.
We kept the VHSes (it's a two tape movie, it's so long) and that's what we use when we watch it, which we haven't done for a long time.
Might be time to break it out again - we could use some laughs right about now the way this year has gone.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:28 AM (805dc)
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As soon as she starts speaking everything turns into white noise, or mauve noise, or whatever the worst color of noise is.
Then if you didn't see it, Bandersnath, you might appreciate the video by Bill Burr in the ONT. He hates her voice, He refers to it as somebody playing a trumpet (badly, I guess) In fact he hates it so much and Hillary too that he must have used "f'ing" about 100 times in the clip.
Then if you didn't see it, Bandersnath, you might appreciate the video by Bill Burr in the ONT. He hates her voice, He refers to it as somebody playing a trumpet (badly, I guess) In fact he hates it so much and Hillary too that he must have used "f'ing" about 100 times in the clip.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:28 AM (6HqlZ)
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They are conservatives who have embraced identity politics for white people. They explicitly say that the government should reduce *non-white* immigration, for instance. They want America for Whites.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (uAvJJ)
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I would argue that, with their willingness to accept big government and their rejection of Constitutional ideals, they are not in any meaningful sense "Conservatives."
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (uAvJJ)
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I would argue that, with their willingness to accept big government and their rejection of Constitutional ideals, they are not in any meaningful sense "Conservatives."
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:29 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at August 26, 2016 09:29 AM (wnk12)
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TCM shows the long version of Mad World.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:29 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (8ikIW)
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I still have no idea what "alt right"t means except it's a code word for Storm Front Types and I've always thought Alex Jones is really "out there" about some things (Although I've rarely checked his site) but this vide from info wars does make some sense:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zuz224y
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
1. Some people are racist
2. Some racist people claim to be 'Alt-Right'
3. Brietbart.com claims to be the voice of the Alt-right. (Even though it's not clear that they're using the same definition as the people in 1 and 2.)
4. Steve Bannon joined the Trump Campaign.
Therefore, Donald Trump and all his supprters are racist.
That's basically the argument. "Alt-right" is a designation that's meaningless to be used as an actual descriptor because there isn't really a set definition of beliefs that qualifies as it's ideology, so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar the Trump campaign.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zuz224y
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
1. Some people are racist
2. Some racist people claim to be 'Alt-Right'
3. Brietbart.com claims to be the voice of the Alt-right. (Even though it's not clear that they're using the same definition as the people in 1 and 2.)
4. Steve Bannon joined the Trump Campaign.
Therefore, Donald Trump and all his supprters are racist.
That's basically the argument. "Alt-right" is a designation that's meaningless to be used as an actual descriptor because there isn't really a set definition of beliefs that qualifies as it's ideology, so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar the Trump campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (KUaJL)
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Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (uAvJJ)
Oh, good, YIPPEE. Are we going to do this again? :^(
Oh, good, YIPPEE. Are we going to do this again? :^(
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:31 AM (6urbU)
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They are conservatives who have embraced identity politics for white people.
Here's a Breitbart piece on alt-right. It's a sympathetic piece, not a NYT hit job. The author clearly knows the history and the various streams and feuds and what happened on 4chan and reddit.
Even from a sympathetic point of view these people come out as awful.
http://bit.ly/1UDhGjA
Here's a Breitbart piece on alt-right. It's a sympathetic piece, not a NYT hit job. The author clearly knows the history and the various streams and feuds and what happened on 4chan and reddit.
Even from a sympathetic point of view these people come out as awful.
http://bit.ly/1UDhGjA
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:32 AM (mgbwf)
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so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar the Trump campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (KUaJL)
As we used to say "It's good enough for 'government' work!"
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (KUaJL)
As we used to say "It's good enough for 'government' work!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: JEM at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (uyrlv)
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Which cat was Arnold Stang?
Fancy?
Posted by: M Magoo's
T.C. himself
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054572
Which cat was Arnold Stang?
Fancy?
Posted by: M Magoo's
T.C. himself
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054572
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (IqV8l)
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That's basically the argument. "Alt-right" is a designation that's meaningless to be used as an actual descriptor because there isn't really a set definition of beliefs that qualifies as it's ideology, so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar the Trump campaign.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (KUaJL)
Ideologies are notoriously hard to define - look at the consternation occurring right now over the definition of "Conservative." That doesn't mean a new, recognizable body of thought doesn't exist, although it does make it a useful exercise to try and develop the most accurate definition possible.
A key point is that the alt-right is pretty sure the alt-right exists. So is (as you point out) CEO of the Trump campaign Bannon.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:30 AM (KUaJL)
Ideologies are notoriously hard to define - look at the consternation occurring right now over the definition of "Conservative." That doesn't mean a new, recognizable body of thought doesn't exist, although it does make it a useful exercise to try and develop the most accurate definition possible.
A key point is that the alt-right is pretty sure the alt-right exists. So is (as you point out) CEO of the Trump campaign Bannon.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (mFkVC)
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Arnold Stang was also the face and voice for Chunky commercials back in the '60's
Jeez, I'm getting old
Jeez, I'm getting old
Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2016 09:34 AM (8ikIW)
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I shoulda known that.
I shoulda known that.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:35 AM (6urbU)
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I see the GDP is registering blistering growth coming in at 1.1%. Way to go obama, your plan is working!
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 26, 2016 09:35 AM (iONHu)
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I would argue that, with their willingness to accept
big government and their rejection of Constitutional ideals, they are
not in any meaningful sense "Conservatives."
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:29 AM (mFkVC)
Well, they are not ideological conservatives, for sure. What they want to conserve is white European culture and white tribal identity.
big government and their rejection of Constitutional ideals, they are
not in any meaningful sense "Conservatives."
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:29 AM (mFkVC)
Well, they are not ideological conservatives, for sure. What they want to conserve is white European culture and white tribal identity.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (uAvJJ)
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I Love Mad World! Also, The Russians are Coming. I'm at home sort of convalescing so I may watch them both today.
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/zuz224y
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
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I watched that video this morning. Paul Joseph Watson does very good take downs but he does seem to be perpetually angry. Can't say I blame him though.
Btw, speaking of the alt-right, Milo's latest podcast is with Joel Stein of TIME, who wrote recently about how trolls like Milo are ruining the internet.
http://www.podcastone.com/the-milo-yiannopoulos-show
The guy who presents it, however, sounds like he needs to meditate or something
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2016 09:23 AM (6HqlZ)
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I watched that video this morning. Paul Joseph Watson does very good take downs but he does seem to be perpetually angry. Can't say I blame him though.
Btw, speaking of the alt-right, Milo's latest podcast is with Joel Stein of TIME, who wrote recently about how trolls like Milo are ruining the internet.
http://www.podcastone.com/the-milo-yiannopoulos-show
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 26, 2016 09:37 AM (BDZWU)
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Who was the other doofus?
Norman Fell?
Phil Silvers?
Don Rickles?
Arnold Stang was the other doofus. Norman Fell is in the beginning of the movie, as one of the two policemen chasing Smiler Grogan (Jimmy Durante). Phil Silvers plays fast-talking con man Otto ("Dr. Zillman - I'm in the book!) Meyer.
Rickles wasn't in the film.
Norman Fell?
Phil Silvers?
Don Rickles?
Arnold Stang was the other doofus. Norman Fell is in the beginning of the movie, as one of the two policemen chasing Smiler Grogan (Jimmy Durante). Phil Silvers plays fast-talking con man Otto ("Dr. Zillman - I'm in the book!) Meyer.
Rickles wasn't in the film.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2016 09:37 AM (X6fMO)
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'Alt-Right' is a code word the liberals use to say disparaging things about conservatives. Then, if someone conservative complains, the liberal can say 'was not talking about you. was talking about those other guys'.
Eventually the label sticks to conservatives.
Nothing ever seems to stick to the alt-left.
'Alt-Right' is a code word the liberals use to say disparaging things about conservatives. Then, if someone conservative complains, the liberal can say 'was not talking about you. was talking about those other guys'.
Eventually the label sticks to conservatives.
Nothing ever seems to stick to the alt-left.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:37 AM (0LmgR)
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Some of you poor bastards and your idiotic white guilt.
The Left really has you over their barrel.
Some of you poor bastards and your idiotic white guilt.
The Left really has you over their barrel.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (6urbU)
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"Alt-right" is a designation that's meaningless to be used as an actual
descriptor because there isn't really a set definition of beliefs that
qualifies as it's ideology, so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar
the Trump campaign.
Its only purpose for Hillary is to throw another smear against Trump, yes. But that does not mean that the term itself doesn't have meaning.
For instance, no matter how much the left lies and calls us all racists and fascists as nothing more than personal insults, there *is* actually such a thing as racism and fascism. Same thing here.
descriptor because there isn't really a set definition of beliefs that
qualifies as it's ideology, so it's only purpose is for Hillary to Tar
the Trump campaign.
Its only purpose for Hillary is to throw another smear against Trump, yes. But that does not mean that the term itself doesn't have meaning.
For instance, no matter how much the left lies and calls us all racists and fascists as nothing more than personal insults, there *is* actually such a thing as racism and fascism. Same thing here.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)
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Well, they are not ideological conservatives, for sure. What they want to conserve is white European culture and white tribal identity.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (uAvJJ)
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I'm always curious as to what they mean by "white European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really, really big fans of Shakespeare?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (uAvJJ)
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I'm always curious as to what they mean by "white European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really, really big fans of Shakespeare?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
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I Love Mad World! Also, The Russians are Coming. I'm at home sort of convalescing so I may watch them both today.
Try to find The In-Laws if you can.
Try to find The In-Laws if you can.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (qUNWi)
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Serpentine!!!
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Rickles was just a wild guess. He was the only celeb not in the movie, I guess.
Rickles was just a wild guess. He was the only celeb not in the movie, I guess.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:39 AM (6urbU)
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Congratulations to our neighbors son, an eagle scout who just finished a merit badge sufficient to earn him his silver Palm badge. Great kid, huge achievement.
Posted by: MTF at August 26, 2016 09:39 AM (/m8T6)
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Person makes a good point. The challenge now is to determine what is this ideology - to the extent, as he notes, that anyone can puzzle out an ideology in its infant stages - and what effect it might have on the American polity.
Still rather amorphous at the moment, it does seem to crystallize around a European-Right style sort of vibe. This is natural, given what seem to be its roots in those movements. An interesting development, to be sure.
Still rather amorphous at the moment, it does seem to crystallize around a European-Right style sort of vibe. This is natural, given what seem to be its roots in those movements. An interesting development, to be sure.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:39 AM (lutOX)
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Any organization whose name includes the phrase "Without Borders" is suspicious on its face.
The idea that an organization "without borders" immediately jumps to, we don't have your W-2 on file is bullshit.
If one of theirs got nabbed and the US government told them to fuck off, they would be howling.
The idea that an organization "without borders" immediately jumps to, we don't have your W-2 on file is bullshit.
If one of theirs got nabbed and the US government told them to fuck off, they would be howling.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (326rv)
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Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2016 09:27 AM (SkHxD)
You may not like Trump, you may think he's not a conservative, but at least in his career to date he's never written a government check to himself or written a law to benefit his cronies (foreign or domestic). And you know since he has never been a member of the protected political class, if he had ever screwed up, the Establishment would have been all over his dealings. So on his worst day in office, he will still be thousands of times better than Hillary in her best minute in office.
You may not like Trump, you may think he's not a conservative, but at least in his career to date he's never written a government check to himself or written a law to benefit his cronies (foreign or domestic). And you know since he has never been a member of the protected political class, if he had ever screwed up, the Establishment would have been all over his dealings. So on his worst day in office, he will still be thousands of times better than Hillary in her best minute in office.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (wCEn4)
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I'm always curious as to what they mean by "white
European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really,
really big fans of Shakespeare?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
From my understanding, they think the Enlightenment stuff only really applies to white people (i.e., "good people"). So they don't reject the Enlightenment, they reject the universality of Enlightenment principles.
European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really,
really big fans of Shakespeare?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
From my understanding, they think the Enlightenment stuff only really applies to white people (i.e., "good people"). So they don't reject the Enlightenment, they reject the universality of Enlightenment principles.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (uAvJJ)
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Its only purpose for Hillary is to throw another smear against Trump, yes. But that does not mean that the term itself doesn't have meaning.
For instance, no matter how much the left lies and calls us all racists and fascists as nothing more than personal insults, there *is* actually such a thing as racism and fascism. Same thing here.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)
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Also, its a smear Trump positively invited by making Bannon his campaign's CEO.
For instance, no matter how much the left lies and calls us all racists and fascists as nothing more than personal insults, there *is* actually such a thing as racism and fascism. Same thing here.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)
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Also, its a smear Trump positively invited by making Bannon his campaign's CEO.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (mFkVC)
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A key point is that the alt-right is pretty sure the alt-right exists. So is (as you point out) CEO of the Trump campaign Bannon.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (mFkVC)
If you'd have asked me a couple of years ago who the "Alt-right" was, I'd have said that Ace and the Horde qualified. Most of us certainly don't agree with the GOP in it's current form, so why aren't we Alt-right?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:33 AM (mFkVC)
If you'd have asked me a couple of years ago who the "Alt-right" was, I'd have said that Ace and the Horde qualified. Most of us certainly don't agree with the GOP in it's current form, so why aren't we Alt-right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
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I'm always curious as to what they mean by "white European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really, really big fans of Shakespeare?
Oh! Are we going to have the Reformation fight today?
*runs and hides*
Oh! Are we going to have the Reformation fight today?
*runs and hides*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (mgbwf)
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Watched The Out of Towners again recently - my wife and her friend who is a huge movie buff had never heard of it. Another fave is the Long Long Trailer with Lucy and Desi.
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (Sfs6o)
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265 I Love Mad World! Also, The Russians are Coming. I'm at home sort of convalescing so I may watch them both today.
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (Sfs6o)
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"Nawman! They're opening up the bah!"
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (Sfs6o)
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"Nawman! They're opening up the bah!"
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:41 AM (805dc)
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Hey, that alinsky guy really knew his stuff, huh?
I was able to kill the Tea Party movement pretty quickly by accusing them of racism....with the help of my dancing monkeys of course.
who come on threads and derail them and get everybody all worried that someone might think them a racist if they vote for Trump.
Hee hee. Works every time.
But, no seriously....
The alt-right* is for reelz.
They've got websites and everything! Just not any a-hole can post crap on the internet!
They're the most violent, toothless, racist hillbillies evah!
They are everywhere!!!!!
and they're gonna getcha!
So, dance my little monkeys dance!!!
*The alt-right is a wholly owned subsidiary of Soros Inc. No one may use the term alt-right without written permission from Soros Inc or one of Soros Inc's approved vendors of FUD- the MSM or Democrat Party.
I was able to kill the Tea Party movement pretty quickly by accusing them of racism....with the help of my dancing monkeys of course.
who come on threads and derail them and get everybody all worried that someone might think them a racist if they vote for Trump.
Hee hee. Works every time.
But, no seriously....
The alt-right* is for reelz.
They've got websites and everything! Just not any a-hole can post crap on the internet!
They're the most violent, toothless, racist hillbillies evah!
They are everywhere!!!!!
and they're gonna getcha!
So, dance my little monkeys dance!!!
*The alt-right is a wholly owned subsidiary of Soros Inc. No one may use the term alt-right without written permission from Soros Inc or one of Soros Inc's approved vendors of FUD- the MSM or Democrat Party.
Posted by: George Soros at August 26, 2016 09:41 AM (HGtd0)
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They are conservatives who have embraced identity politics for white people. They explicitly say that the government should reduce *non-white* immigration, for instance.
They want America for Whites.
Posted by: chemjeff
Why does that sound so fucking much like wanting Germany for Germans??
They want America for Whites.
Posted by: chemjeff
Why does that sound so fucking much like wanting Germany for Germans??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 09:41 AM (Cd8NC)
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Oh, and 'please' and 'thank you', magic words. What do they do?
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Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (805dc)
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Still rather amorphous at the moment, it does seem to crystallize around a European-Right style sort of vibe. This is natural, given what seem to be its roots in those movements. An interesting development, to be sure.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:39 AM (lutOX)
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This is key - if the American party system became Alt-Right vs. modern Left, it would look a lot like Europe. That's not a good thing.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:39 AM (lutOX)
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This is key - if the American party system became Alt-Right vs. modern Left, it would look a lot like Europe. That's not a good thing.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (mFkVC)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (6urbU)
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Well, they are not ideological conservatives, for sure. What they want to conserve is white European culture and white tribal identity.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (uAvJJ)
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Which raises the question of what ideological conservatives want to conserve. Interesting that the early post-WWII conservatives rejected "ideology".
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM (uAvJJ)
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Which raises the question of what ideological conservatives want to conserve. Interesting that the early post-WWII conservatives rejected "ideology".
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (NUqwG)
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I'm always curious as to what they mean by "white European culture" since many reject the enlightenment - are they really, really big fans of Shakespeare?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
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From the Trad-Cons I've read, and from a few interactions with European Right types, I've concluded they're talking more about the traditional cultures - most espouse a sort of Christian culture, though there are some (not many) who embrace pagan reconstruction.
I think their chief objection to the Enlightenment has to do with their rejection of the democratic/egalitarian model of modern governance. Fans of the French Revolution, they are not......
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:38 AM (mFkVC)
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From the Trad-Cons I've read, and from a few interactions with European Right types, I've concluded they're talking more about the traditional cultures - most espouse a sort of Christian culture, though there are some (not many) who embrace pagan reconstruction.
I think their chief objection to the Enlightenment has to do with their rejection of the democratic/egalitarian model of modern governance. Fans of the French Revolution, they are not......
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (lutOX)
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Emergency rooms are empty anymore.
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A good friend of mine is a nurse that works in a SC hospital system. She is up close and personal with the emergency room and financial aspect of it. She told me just the other day that their hospital system is losing money hand over fist because of all the uninsured people (25-30% of all the people coming into Emergency). They can come in, be admitted for something very serious like needing heart bypass surgery, have a lengthy hospital recovery stay and every dime is absorbed by the hospital system. They pay nothing. She said the hospital system caters to them, providing free interpreters, etc. It's going to bury them eventually. It seems Obamacare didn't remove that burden from the Emergency Rooms filled with non-insureds at all. What. A. Surprise.
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A good friend of mine is a nurse that works in a SC hospital system. She is up close and personal with the emergency room and financial aspect of it. She told me just the other day that their hospital system is losing money hand over fist because of all the uninsured people (25-30% of all the people coming into Emergency). They can come in, be admitted for something very serious like needing heart bypass surgery, have a lengthy hospital recovery stay and every dime is absorbed by the hospital system. They pay nothing. She said the hospital system caters to them, providing free interpreters, etc. It's going to bury them eventually. It seems Obamacare didn't remove that burden from the Emergency Rooms filled with non-insureds at all. What. A. Surprise.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (+FSld)
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Well, they are not ideological conservatives, for sure. What they want to conserve is white European culture and white tribal identity.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM
So they are racists democrats who want to preserve the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners, and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:36 AM
So they are racists democrats who want to preserve the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners, and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (0LmgR)
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (qUNWi)
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"I see the GDP is registering blistering growth coming in at 1.1%."
The population is growing faster than that.
On a per capita basis, America is becoming steadily more poor.
The population is growing faster than that.
On a per capita basis, America is becoming steadily more poor.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (noWW6)
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so why aren't we Alt-right?
Because we're (mostly) not racialists and tribalists.
Don't get all touchy because it has the word "right" in it and it sounds like the same attacks as they attacked the Tea Party with.
The Tea Party attacks were unfair, but read the actual alt-right to see what the actual alt-right thinks. It ain't (most of) us.
Because we're (mostly) not racialists and tribalists.
Don't get all touchy because it has the word "right" in it and it sounds like the same attacks as they attacked the Tea Party with.
The Tea Party attacks were unfair, but read the actual alt-right to see what the actual alt-right thinks. It ain't (most of) us.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (mgbwf)
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This is key - if the American party system became Alt-Right vs. modern Left, it would look a lot like Europe. That's not a good thing.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (mFkVC)
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We are in agreement once again. From that to street-fighting is just a matter of a few years.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (mFkVC)
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We are in agreement once again. From that to street-fighting is just a matter of a few years.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:44 AM (lutOX)
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If you'd have asked me a couple of years ago who the
"Alt-right" was, I'd have said that Ace and the Horde qualified. Most
of us certainly don't agree with the GOP in it's current form, so why
aren't we Alt-right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
Lots of people on the right *do* take that same approach. They consider themselves "alternatives" to the "right", where the "right" is defined as some type of agreement with the GOP establishment. Lots of Ron Paul type people would consider themselves "alt-right" for instance. But the people who have made the loudest noises calling themselves the "alt-right" are people like Richard Spencer and Paul Gottfried and Vox Day and the like, and they are basically paleoconservatives with a white racialist component.
"Alt-right" was, I'd have said that Ace and the Horde qualified. Most
of us certainly don't agree with the GOP in it's current form, so why
aren't we Alt-right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
Lots of people on the right *do* take that same approach. They consider themselves "alternatives" to the "right", where the "right" is defined as some type of agreement with the GOP establishment. Lots of Ron Paul type people would consider themselves "alt-right" for instance. But the people who have made the loudest noises calling themselves the "alt-right" are people like Richard Spencer and Paul Gottfried and Vox Day and the like, and they are basically paleoconservatives with a white racialist component.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:44 AM (uAvJJ)
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The Out of Towners is a gem too.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:44 AM (qUNWi)
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I Love Mad World! Also, The Russians are Coming. I'm at home sort of convalescing so I may watch them both today.
Try to find The In-Laws if you can.
I assume you're talking about the original (Peter Falk, Alan Arkin) and not the remake. I never saw the remake but thought the original was hilarious.
I Love Mad World! Also, The Russians are Coming. I'm at home sort of convalescing so I may watch them both today.
Try to find The In-Laws if you can.
I assume you're talking about the original (Peter Falk, Alan Arkin) and not the remake. I never saw the remake but thought the original was hilarious.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (AroJD)
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The Long Long Trailer is a hidden gem.
Absolute gem.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (qUNWi)
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Never heard of it. But if you speak of it in the same breath as the others, I must remedy that posthaste.
Absolute gem.
Posted by: eleven at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (qUNWi)
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Never heard of it. But if you speak of it in the same breath as the others, I must remedy that posthaste.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (805dc)
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So they are racists democrats who want to preserve
the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners,
and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (0LmgR)
I think it's more accurate to call them collectivists. They are racial tribalist collectivists.
the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners,
and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (0LmgR)
I think it's more accurate to call them collectivists. They are racial tribalist collectivists.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (wCEn4)
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Arghh. Pup-sitting son's dog this weekend, along with our two elderly kittehs.
I've been up since 5:45 when the men left for a flight to NY (son spent night over).
The three are getting along, but pup is bored and needs to go for a long, long walk, which I'd be up for except for the BP meds that are still making me dizzy.
Wish I had a doggy valium.
I've been up since 5:45 when the men left for a flight to NY (son spent night over).
The three are getting along, but pup is bored and needs to go for a long, long walk, which I'd be up for except for the BP meds that are still making me dizzy.
Wish I had a doggy valium.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (1ZOkK)
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Meanwhile, I'd like to know when it became controversial that people who have no cultural background in the Enlightenment, its surrounding culture and ideals would not be able to emulate societies with that as its grounding. It's pretty clear from long experience now that transplanting Western forms does not create Western societies--why is it a shock when people say that maybe flooding the West with people with wildly different cultural backgrounds might not result in the reinforcement of the Enlightenment heritage?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (9krrF)
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If you'd have asked me a couple of years ago who the "Alt-right" was, I'd have said that Ace and the Horde qualified. Most of us certainly don't agree with the GOP in it's current form, so why aren't we Alt-right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
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Nah, Ace's values have always been fairly traditionally Conservative - small government, the same rules applied to all, etc. Opposition to the GOPe has largely sprung from a feeling that they are abandoning those values. Just trying to be an alternative to the group that claims to be "right" but is failing to do so doesn't make you alt-right. The only person trying to push this definition is Hugh Hewitt, who seems to be having a nervous breakdown as he clings to Trump.
The "Alt-Right" has a very different ideology. The name is very misleading - some folks call them "Identitarians," which seems better.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
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Nah, Ace's values have always been fairly traditionally Conservative - small government, the same rules applied to all, etc. Opposition to the GOPe has largely sprung from a feeling that they are abandoning those values. Just trying to be an alternative to the group that claims to be "right" but is failing to do so doesn't make you alt-right. The only person trying to push this definition is Hugh Hewitt, who seems to be having a nervous breakdown as he clings to Trump.
The "Alt-Right" has a very different ideology. The name is very misleading - some folks call them "Identitarians," which seems better.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (mFkVC)
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Try to find The In-Laws if you can.
I assume you're talking about the original (Peter Falk, Alan Arkin) and not the remake. I never saw the remake but thought the original was hilarious.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (AroJD)
Criterion (ie. designer Blu-rays) just released "The In-Laws" on blu-ray.
I assume you're talking about the original (Peter Falk, Alan Arkin) and not the remake. I never saw the remake but thought the original was hilarious.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 26, 2016 09:45 AM (AroJD)
Criterion (ie. designer Blu-rays) just released "The In-Laws" on blu-ray.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (HGtd0)
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Which raises the question of what ideological
conservatives want to conserve. Interesting that the early post-WWII
conservatives rejected "ideology".
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (NUqwG)
The principles of the Revolution.
conservatives want to conserve. Interesting that the early post-WWII
conservatives rejected "ideology".
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (NUqwG)
The principles of the Revolution.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)
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Nood art.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (L62jT)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:47 AM (mgbwf)
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The worst racists out there are thewhite people who see race in everything and call others a racist.
9 out of 10 times, the person screaming 'racist' is the real racist.
The worst racists out there are thewhite people who see race in everything and call others a racist.
9 out of 10 times, the person screaming 'racist' is the real racist.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 26, 2016 09:47 AM (6urbU)
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Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (9krrF)
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And Brother C boils it all down, as is his wont.
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And Brother C boils it all down, as is his wont.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (lutOX)
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So they are racists democrats who want to preserve the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners, and everyone else is a serf.
No. They want everyone who isn't white to GTFO.
Including joos. Kinda like Munich in '39.
No. They want everyone who isn't white to GTFO.
Including joos. Kinda like Munich in '39.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (Cd8NC)
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289 Have you been sick, Weasel?
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (805dc)
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Ugh. Sort of. I had to get a pacemaker a couple of days ago. I'm kind of a big strapping guy and only 53 years old, so I wasn't expecting this sort of thing. Apparently part of my electrical system went out.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:42 AM (805dc)
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Ugh. Sort of. I had to get a pacemaker a couple of days ago. I'm kind of a big strapping guy and only 53 years old, so I wasn't expecting this sort of thing. Apparently part of my electrical system went out.
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (Sfs6o)
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Off to the Art thread!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (lutOX)
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On a per capita basis, America is becoming steadily more poor.
The mass importation of impoverished third worlders will tend to have that effect.
The mass importation of impoverished third worlders will tend to have that effect.
Posted by: V the K at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (O7MnT)
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You could moisten the doggy kibbles with Scotch?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:47 AM (mgbwf)
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I think she means for herself.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 26, 2016 09:47 AM (mgbwf)
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I think she means for herself.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2016 09:48 AM (805dc)
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What. A. Surprise.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (+FSld)
No, that was never baked into the cake from the beginning, oh no!
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (+FSld)
No, that was never baked into the cake from the beginning, oh no!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (wCEn4)
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I think their chief objection to the Enlightenment has to do with their rejection of the democratic/egalitarian model of modern governance. Fans of the French Revolution, they are not......
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (lutOX)
Well, I suspect many (most?) Conservatives are not fans of the French Revolution. I'm not.
The difference of opinion between the alt-right and Conservatives centers more around the American Revolution.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (lutOX)
Well, I suspect many (most?) Conservatives are not fans of the French Revolution. I'm not.
The difference of opinion between the alt-right and Conservatives centers more around the American Revolution.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (mFkVC)
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why is it a shock when people say that maybe flooding the West with
people with wildly different cultural backgrounds might not result in
the reinforcement of the Enlightenment heritage?
This might be true if you don't believe that America is capable of assimilating immigrants. Most measures of immigrant assimilation show that immigrants today assimilate about as well as they always have in the past.
people with wildly different cultural backgrounds might not result in
the reinforcement of the Enlightenment heritage?
This might be true if you don't believe that America is capable of assimilating immigrants. Most measures of immigrant assimilation show that immigrants today assimilate about as well as they always have in the past.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (uAvJJ)
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I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (PFy0L)
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So they are racists democrats who want to preserve
the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners,
and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (0LmgR)
I think it's more accurate to call them collectivists. They are racial tribalist collectivists.
They are fucking nazis.
"White America for whites only".
the feudal state where they, the democrats, are the feudal land owners,
and everyone else is a serf.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:43 AM (0LmgR)
I think it's more accurate to call them collectivists. They are racial tribalist collectivists.
They are fucking nazis.
"White America for whites only".
Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (Cd8NC)
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The principles of the Revolution.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)
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Bingo, bingo, bingo. A thousand times this.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)
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Bingo, bingo, bingo. A thousand times this.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:50 AM (mFkVC)
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I see a lot of the alt-right as a response to the constant demonization of white males and now, anyone who believes in national sovereignty. These days, simply believing your nation should have a border wil get you classified as a right wing lunatic. When white people, especially males, are made out by society as the ultimate historical villain, and only acceptable object of hate and ridicule, how can a retaliatory movement be a surprise?
Posted by: Pyrocles at August 26, 2016 09:50 AM (RNv8W)
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304 Get The Long Long Trailer, bluebell! It's Lucy and Desi but not in their roles as Lucy and Ricky. It is a classic that few people have ever heard of!!!!
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:51 AM (Sfs6o)
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324 I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (PFy0L)
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Then read Milo's piece in Brietbart cited above. And read the founding documents he discusses.
You could also read pieces in NR, The Federalist, etc. after that to get a variety of different views. But I suspect looking at the alt-right's own words would be enough.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (PFy0L)
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Then read Milo's piece in Brietbart cited above. And read the founding documents he discusses.
You could also read pieces in NR, The Federalist, etc. after that to get a variety of different views. But I suspect looking at the alt-right's own words would be enough.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:52 AM (mFkVC)
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Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 26, 2016 09:40 AM (34w2E)
Lots of people on the right *do* take that same approach. They consider themselves "alternatives" to the "right", where the "right" is defined as some type of agreement with the GOP establishment. Lots of Ron Paul type people would consider themselves "alt-right" for instance. But the people who have made the loudest noises calling themselves the "alt-right" are people like Richard Spencer and Paul Gottfried and Vox Day and the like, and they are basically paleoconservatives with a white racialist component.
Posted by: chemjeff
then let the people who wish to self-identify as this be this and leave the rest of us alone. I was told that pigeon-holing people and labelling them was wrong. Unless of course a vote or a dollar can be wrung from it.
Lots of people on the right *do* take that same approach. They consider themselves "alternatives" to the "right", where the "right" is defined as some type of agreement with the GOP establishment. Lots of Ron Paul type people would consider themselves "alt-right" for instance. But the people who have made the loudest noises calling themselves the "alt-right" are people like Richard Spencer and Paul Gottfried and Vox Day and the like, and they are basically paleoconservatives with a white racialist component.
Posted by: chemjeff
then let the people who wish to self-identify as this be this and leave the rest of us alone. I was told that pigeon-holing people and labelling them was wrong. Unless of course a vote or a dollar can be wrung from it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 26, 2016 09:53 AM (326rv)
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why is it a shock when people say that maybe flooding the West with people with wildly different cultural backgrounds might not result in the reinforcement of the Enlightenment heritage?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (9krrF)
You betters, who are responsible for the flooding, insist that all cultures are equal, thus a) it cannot make any difference if the Enlightenment heritage is reinforced, and b) the very influence of the Enlightenment heritage needs to be equalized (diminished) so the alt-cultures can thrive here as they have in their native lands!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (9krrF)
You betters, who are responsible for the flooding, insist that all cultures are equal, thus a) it cannot make any difference if the Enlightenment heritage is reinforced, and b) the very influence of the Enlightenment heritage needs to be equalized (diminished) so the alt-cultures can thrive here as they have in their native lands!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:54 AM (wCEn4)
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On a per capita basis, America is becoming steadily more poor.
Actually, American GDP per capita has grown on average at about 3.5%-4% per year since 1990.
It took a bit of a hit in 2008, but other than that, it's been steadily growing.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=US
Actually, American GDP per capita has grown on average at about 3.5%-4% per year since 1990.
It took a bit of a hit in 2008, but other than that, it's been steadily growing.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=US
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:54 AM (uAvJJ)
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I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
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Exactly.
In the time of the internet, and before that, the time of the fax machine, one guy and a handful of support could set up an 'institute' and claim to be a world renowned expert or the leader of a world wide movement.
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Exactly.
In the time of the internet, and before that, the time of the fax machine, one guy and a handful of support could set up an 'institute' and claim to be a world renowned expert or the leader of a world wide movement.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 09:55 AM (0LmgR)
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Why would I read NR? They are GOPe extreme. Listening to French talk about Trump is as bad as listening to Hillary talk about Trump.
I think alt-right, like neo-con, is being pushed by opponents trying to define a movement instead of the movement coalescing itself. Shit, I saw this same dance led by David Frum years ago when he was trying to combat so-called paleocons.
I think alt-right, like neo-con, is being pushed by opponents trying to define a movement instead of the movement coalescing itself. Shit, I saw this same dance led by David Frum years ago when he was trying to combat so-called paleocons.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:55 AM (PFy0L)
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273 thanks for the In-Laws movie redo, eleven. Will order it today!
Posted by: Weasel at August 26, 2016 09:56 AM (Sfs6o)
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I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks
You don't have to venture far to find the weasel Nevertrumpers. We've got two here working this thread like monkeys on crack.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks
You don't have to venture far to find the weasel Nevertrumpers. We've got two here working this thread like monkeys on crack.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (ZFUt7)
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324
I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (PFy0L)
That's fine, so figure it out for yourself. I *don't* want you to just take my word for it. Above Bandersnatch posted a Breitbart link about what "alt-right" meant. If you do some googling you can find some other references. But I think that you will find that most of them will show that they are broadly aligned with what we've been saying.
I'm not keen on trusting Nevertrumpers and the Democrats to define what the "alt-right" is.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (PFy0L)
That's fine, so figure it out for yourself. I *don't* want you to just take my word for it. Above Bandersnatch posted a Breitbart link about what "alt-right" meant. If you do some googling you can find some other references. But I think that you will find that most of them will show that they are broadly aligned with what we've been saying.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (uAvJJ)
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This might be true if you don't believe that America is capable of assimilating immigrants. Most measures of immigrant assimilation show that immigrants today assimilate about as well as they always have in the past.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (uAvJJ)
In spite of my better judgement, I will ask "Do you have a citation for the assimilation 'quality'"?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:49 AM (uAvJJ)
In spite of my better judgement, I will ask "Do you have a citation for the assimilation 'quality'"?
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (wCEn4)
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334 Why would I read NR? They are GOPe extreme. Listening to French talk about Trump is as bad as listening to Hillary talk about Trump.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:55 AM (PFy0L)
You seem to have ignored most of my post. I suspected you would trash NR, which I offered only as a way to gain a variety of different perspectives with different biases. My main suggestion was to read Milo and the alt-righters he discusses.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:55 AM (PFy0L)
You seem to have ignored most of my post. I suspected you would trash NR, which I offered only as a way to gain a variety of different perspectives with different biases. My main suggestion was to read Milo and the alt-righters he discusses.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (mFkVC)
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I won't stand for any labelling or smear jobs from GOPe types; they've demeaned their peasantry quite enough.
If the democrats really are bothered by the Klan, then they should commit yet another abortion and get rid of their love child. It's illuminating that this is the only abortion they aren't keen to perform.
If the democrats really are bothered by the Klan, then they should commit yet another abortion and get rid of their love child. It's illuminating that this is the only abortion they aren't keen to perform.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 26, 2016 09:59 AM (326rv)
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You seem to have ignored most of my post
I read all of your post. Just because I don't comment on 100% of it doesn't mean I didn't read it...just like you "seem" to have ignored my point that we went through this whole dance 15 years ago with the "neo-con vs paleocon" war.
You are coming across as condescending which makes you look like you're insisting upon yourself. That isn't doing your arguments any favors.
I read all of your post. Just because I don't comment on 100% of it doesn't mean I didn't read it...just like you "seem" to have ignored my point that we went through this whole dance 15 years ago with the "neo-con vs paleocon" war.
You are coming across as condescending which makes you look like you're insisting upon yourself. That isn't doing your arguments any favors.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 09:59 AM (PFy0L)
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Ooh, art.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 26, 2016 10:00 AM (PFy0L)
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If Milo is leading the alt-right parade, then the alt-right isn't right wing, isn't conservative, and isn't old school republican or even old school liberal in the way the founding fathers understood that label..
If Milo is leading the alt-right parade, then the alt-right isn't right wing, isn't conservative, and isn't old school republican or even old school liberal in the way the founding fathers understood that label..
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 10:01 AM (0LmgR)
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The principles of the Revolution.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)
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Which principles of the Revolution? The deist enlightenment of Jefferson or the atheism of Paine? Neither applies to modern conservatives.
The Anti-federalism of Jefferson (with a weak central government) or the Constitutional Federalism (with a strong central government) of Hamilton and Madison? (Note: This is a trick question.)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)
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Which principles of the Revolution? The deist enlightenment of Jefferson or the atheism of Paine? Neither applies to modern conservatives.
The Anti-federalism of Jefferson (with a weak central government) or the Constitutional Federalism (with a strong central government) of Hamilton and Madison? (Note: This is a trick question.)
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 10:01 AM (NUqwG)
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Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 10:01 AM
Two thumbs up and an up twinkles for a point nicely made.
Two thumbs up and an up twinkles for a point nicely made.
Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at August 26, 2016 10:03 AM (0LmgR)
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In spite of my better judgement, I will ask "Do you have a citation for the assimilation 'quality'"?
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (wCEn4)
Sure.
http://tinyurl.com/zw4rw9h
http://tinyurl.com/j6dxm87
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 26, 2016 09:57 AM (wCEn4)
Sure.
http://tinyurl.com/zw4rw9h
http://tinyurl.com/j6dxm87
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 10:03 AM (uAvJJ)
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Which principles of the Revolution? The deist
enlightenment of Jefferson or the atheism of Paine? Neither applies to
modern conservatives.
The Anti-federalism of Jefferson (with a weak central government) or
the Constitutional Federalism (with a strong central government) of
Hamilton and Madison? (Note: This is a trick question.)
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 10:01 AM (NUqwG)
The ones that they could all reasonably agree to, such as those encapsulated in the Declaration of Independence and the original meaning of the Constitution. Sure they disagreed with each other, but their differences paled in comparison to the yawning chasms that we have between the left and the right over what the Constitution means, for instance.
Which principles of the Revolution? The deist
enlightenment of Jefferson or the atheism of Paine? Neither applies to
modern conservatives.
The Anti-federalism of Jefferson (with a weak central government) or
the Constitutional Federalism (with a strong central government) of
Hamilton and Madison? (Note: This is a trick question.)
Posted by: RioBravo at August 26, 2016 10:01 AM (NUqwG)
The ones that they could all reasonably agree to, such as those encapsulated in the Declaration of Independence and the original meaning of the Constitution. Sure they disagreed with each other, but their differences paled in comparison to the yawning chasms that we have between the left and the right over what the Constitution means, for instance.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 10:06 AM (uAvJJ)
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Why would I read NR? They are GOPe extreme.
Maybe you should read NR as an example of a conservative magazine that doesn't have as an explicit marketing strategy the selling of outrage and hysteria.
Maybe you should read NR as an example of a conservative magazine that doesn't have as an explicit marketing strategy the selling of outrage and hysteria.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 10:07 AM (uAvJJ)
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On judicial watch doing the job the press won't - who are "the press?"
Yes, they vote overwhelmingly democrat, but I don't think that's the whole picture.
Agents of "the press" who are still practicing came up in a garbage educational system. They would not know how to do "the job" even if they wanted to. They are lightweights who don't understand mechanisms for accessing information, how to build a strategy behind a fact-finding campaign, or how to cogently organize thoughts for what little they do dig up. And they were never forced to work hard or suffer setbacks.
Western society's weak state is an implosion of several interconnected systems, not simply the apathy or partisanship of any one institution. The press is culpable, surely, but I increasingly believe it's more unwitting than deliberate. Lightweights.
Yes, they vote overwhelmingly democrat, but I don't think that's the whole picture.
Agents of "the press" who are still practicing came up in a garbage educational system. They would not know how to do "the job" even if they wanted to. They are lightweights who don't understand mechanisms for accessing information, how to build a strategy behind a fact-finding campaign, or how to cogently organize thoughts for what little they do dig up. And they were never forced to work hard or suffer setbacks.
Western society's weak state is an implosion of several interconnected systems, not simply the apathy or partisanship of any one institution. The press is culpable, surely, but I increasingly believe it's more unwitting than deliberate. Lightweights.
Posted by: 0302 at August 26, 2016 10:08 AM (wx6iv)
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 26, 2016 10:11 AM (qoKAm)
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First Time/Long Time
RE: Stumbling Economy link. Free Beacon has the story wrong. The job displacement numbers sound bad, but are actually an improvement from the previously measured period.
I discovered this by clicking through to the BLS report on which the Free Beacon story is based. It was right there in the first graph of the report.
Lazy doesn't help!
RE: Stumbling Economy link. Free Beacon has the story wrong. The job displacement numbers sound bad, but are actually an improvement from the previously measured period.
I discovered this by clicking through to the BLS report on which the Free Beacon story is based. It was right there in the first graph of the report.
Lazy doesn't help!
Posted by: @payneIsReal at August 26, 2016 10:13 AM (ZWc5L)
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"Maybe you should read NR as an example of a conservative magazine that doesn't have as an explicit marketing strategy the selling of outrage and hysteria."
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 10:07 AM (uAvJJ)
I take it you don't consider NR's position against Trump as "outrage" and "hysteria"?
The GOP elite is in total panic mode because when Trump wins, they are out of business. Outcasts without a phone number to call or friend to tap for a job.
Once gatekeepers to the inner circle, they will be (figuratively) living under bridges and talking about the old days when people of power would seek their blessing.
We'll be well rid of them.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2016 10:07 AM (uAvJJ)
I take it you don't consider NR's position against Trump as "outrage" and "hysteria"?
The GOP elite is in total panic mode because when Trump wins, they are out of business. Outcasts without a phone number to call or friend to tap for a job.
Once gatekeepers to the inner circle, they will be (figuratively) living under bridges and talking about the old days when people of power would seek their blessing.
We'll be well rid of them.
Posted by: jwest at August 26, 2016 10:14 AM (Zs4uk)
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@346
Chemjeff,
First any "data" on assimilation is a classic case of garbage-in, garbage-out social science. In order to have a quantifiable "study" of something so complex, you have to reduce (to the absurd) your concept of "assimilation" into a few, measurable and therefore quantifiable measures.
The fallacy here is that after you do so, the study authors make grand conclusions about "assimilation" --but in reality the studies you cite basically measure whether the immigrant works, or speaks English, not whether they ascribe to individual liberty or worship socialist strong men, know what the Civil War was, send remittances back to their home country, associate mostly with those from their "home country" etc etc.
And, even looking to the study you cite, I see that "assimilation" (as they reduce, and measure it) was a factor of several times greater than now throughout our history, except perhaps a nadir in about 1990. Then, the authors determine a recent uptick in "assimilation" (defined reductively as English speaking, and working) from 1990 to 2000, but still nowhere near our historical norm levels. This, they attribute, primarily to the replacement of Mexican immigrants with Asian immigrants (which we now see being reversed, with substitution of lost of South Americans, who more resemble the assimilation patterns of Mexicans vs Asians).
But big picture: anyone alive more than thirty years, especially with parents and relatives who go back a bit further than that, can directly attest to an entirely different concept of "becoming an American" that existed throughout the 20th century, as compared to what you see now.
Or, go to Flatbush Avenue on "Caribbean Festival Day" and tell me that this resembles anything like American civilization.
Chemjeff,
First any "data" on assimilation is a classic case of garbage-in, garbage-out social science. In order to have a quantifiable "study" of something so complex, you have to reduce (to the absurd) your concept of "assimilation" into a few, measurable and therefore quantifiable measures.
The fallacy here is that after you do so, the study authors make grand conclusions about "assimilation" --but in reality the studies you cite basically measure whether the immigrant works, or speaks English, not whether they ascribe to individual liberty or worship socialist strong men, know what the Civil War was, send remittances back to their home country, associate mostly with those from their "home country" etc etc.
And, even looking to the study you cite, I see that "assimilation" (as they reduce, and measure it) was a factor of several times greater than now throughout our history, except perhaps a nadir in about 1990. Then, the authors determine a recent uptick in "assimilation" (defined reductively as English speaking, and working) from 1990 to 2000, but still nowhere near our historical norm levels. This, they attribute, primarily to the replacement of Mexican immigrants with Asian immigrants (which we now see being reversed, with substitution of lost of South Americans, who more resemble the assimilation patterns of Mexicans vs Asians).
But big picture: anyone alive more than thirty years, especially with parents and relatives who go back a bit further than that, can directly attest to an entirely different concept of "becoming an American" that existed throughout the 20th century, as compared to what you see now.
Or, go to Flatbush Avenue on "Caribbean Festival Day" and tell me that this resembles anything like American civilization.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 26, 2016 10:16 AM (c0/+W)
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Bleachbit? Sounds kinky like some kind of sex.
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at August 26, 2016 10:19 AM (gwG9s)
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First any "data" on assimilation is a classic case of garbage-in,
garbage-out social science. In order to have a quantifiable "study" of
something so complex, you have to reduce (to the absurd) your concept of
"assimilation" into a few, measurable and therefore quantifiable
measures.
Of course, any attempt to measure some phenomenon will have problems with how to measure it properly. This study's authors chose one particular measure. Perhaps it is not the best measure, but it's not true that it is "garbage".
The fallacy here is that after you do so, the study authors make grand
conclusions about "assimilation" --but in reality the studies you cite
basically measure whether the immigrant works, or speaks English, not
whether they ascribe to individual liberty or worship socialist strong
men, know what the Civil War was, send remittances back to their home
country, associate mostly with those from their "home country" etc etc.
Actually, the study DOES say that the children of immigrants have more friends outside of their ethnic circles than their parents do. But to your larger point - there is no requirement that an American can't send remittances to extended family in foreign countries, or that an American has to ascribe to one particular view of individual liberty, or that they can't prefer socialist strongmen.
Incidentally this is another reason why phrases like "America First" are so devoid of meaning. Does this phrase mean the "America" as envisioned by people like Donald Trump? Or by people like Bernie Sanders? After all, they are both Americans.
But big picture: anyone alive more than thirty years, especially with
parents and relatives who go back a bit further than that, can directly
attest to an entirely different concept of "becoming an American" that
existed throughout the 20th century, as compared to what you see now.
So basically you argue that we should throw out a study because it contradicts your personal experience. Perhaps your personal interactions with immigrants is not representative of the immigrant experience as a whole.
garbage-out social science. In order to have a quantifiable "study" of
something so complex, you have to reduce (to the absurd) your concept of
"assimilation" into a few, measurable and therefore quantifiable
measures.
Of course, any attempt to measure some phenomenon will have problems with how to measure it properly. This study's authors chose one particular measure. Perhaps it is not the best measure, but it's not true that it is "garbage".
The fallacy here is that after you do so, the study authors make grand
conclusions about "assimilation" --but in reality the studies you cite
basically measure whether the immigrant works, or speaks English, not
whether they ascribe to individual liberty or worship socialist strong
men, know what the Civil War was, send remittances back to their home
country, associate mostly with those from their "home country" etc etc.
Actually, the study DOES say that the children of immigrants have more friends outside of their ethnic circles than their parents do. But to your larger point - there is no requirement that an American can't send remittances to extended family in foreign countries, or that an American has to ascribe to one particular view of individual liberty, or that they can't prefer socialist strongmen.
Incidentally this is another reason why phrases like "America First" are so devoid of meaning. Does this phrase mean the "America" as envisioned by people like Donald Trump? Or by people like Bernie Sanders? After all, they are both Americans.
But big picture: anyone alive more than thirty years, especially with
parents and relatives who go back a bit further than that, can directly
attest to an entirely different concept of "becoming an American" that
existed throughout the 20th century, as compared to what you see now.
So basically you argue that we should throw out a study because it contradicts your personal experience. Perhaps your personal interactions with immigrants is not representative of the immigrant experience as a whole.
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"Godde art grayte," said the crossbow attacker.
Posted by: major major major major at August 26, 2016 11:15 AM (jCjAQ)
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I leave it to anyone (who cares) to decide which perspective appears more sound.
I leave it to anyone (who cares) to decide which perspective appears more sound.
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