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Freedom: What A Quaint Concept! [CBD]
Below the fold is a video of Ben Shapiro knocking the snot out of a man whose ideas about freedom and liberty are, shall we say, fluid.
I was going to call him a liberal, but in reality he is a totalitarian-in-training who is confident that he will be the one at the gate, pointing left for the gas chambers and right to the work camp.Comments
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The posture of the leftists is fascinating. They are all leaning away from Ben Shapiro, as though they can barely stand to be sitting next to him.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 10:56 AM (jn7FC)
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 10:57 AM (jn7FC)
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Both assholes are quite impossible to listen to. I honestly don't know how it is done. It is never a pleasure listening to Ben. He sounds like Porky Pig on crack. And the reverend is a girlish cross legged dope with insanely dangerous compulsions. He'll vote Hillary with high sense of sanctimony.
Posted by: bour3 at August 20, 2016 10:58 AM (cyVTQ)
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It's interesting that the moderators job is to remain silent why the Priest of Government controls the discussion. But yeah, the guy on the left is no liberal, not in any sense of the word.
Posted by: Leland at August 20, 2016 11:01 AM (Sj3xp)
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Is it a law that if you are a left-wing female, you have to have hideous eyewear and a bad dye-job?
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 11:01 AM (jn7FC)
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Outrage girl seems very upset about people that couldn't get served at lunch counter 60 years ago. But what about about the British in the Malays? Why isn't she outraged about that? She must hate Malays.
Posted by: Ripley at August 20, 2016 11:03 AM (1BQGO)
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Yeah, Ben Shapiro is anti-Trump and his voice is annoying. What could he possibly have to say that is worthwhile.
Posted by: JROD at August 20, 2016 11:05 AM (wnwJC)
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That "reverend" is one the Party would hire as a Chaplain, and have him serve "last rites" to the prisoners he would then accompany to the firing squad wall.
And whatever he'd learn from their last confession, he'd hand over to the stormtroopers, so they could round up ever more prisoners for the wall.
Alas, he fails to understand, that when they run out of prisoners, that day, that week, that month.
That he's next to the wall, himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
And whatever he'd learn from their last confession, he'd hand over to the stormtroopers, so they could round up ever more prisoners for the wall.
Alas, he fails to understand, that when they run out of prisoners, that day, that week, that month.
That he's next to the wall, himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 20, 2016 11:07 AM (v5iqM)
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Perfect example of a Teabagger refusing to listen to reason.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell with a Dick in His Mouth at August 20, 2016 11:08 AM (97XyN)
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The Reverends always shake their heads sadly and lament the inequality in this sad hellhole of a country. Why is that?
The Reverends always shake their heads sadly and lament the inequality in this sad hellhole of a country. Why is that?
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM (5o5ek)
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To the "liberal," there are apparently two choices: (1) a government that can do anything and everything, or (2) no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM (tWpnH)
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A modern liberal ("progressive") is just a Bolshevik with the serial numbers filed off. (That's a quote I saw somewhere else but can't remember where, otherwise I'd give the appropriate attribution).
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:11 AM (ywNoU)
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And yes, Ben Shapiro completely pwned these fascist pricks.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:12 AM (ywNoU)
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Ugh.
Think I heard the one on the left say "boy" to Shapiro. I mean, he didn't actually say it, but it was implied.
Think I heard the one on the left say "boy" to Shapiro. I mean, he didn't actually say it, but it was implied.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2016 11:13 AM (NOIQH)
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I get #Nevers, but Hillary running the country? I would want to do anything to stop that.
Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2016 11:14 AM (bksJQ)
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To be a Progressive requires a certain 'flexibility' while singing Springtime for Hillary!.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hvupm86
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hvupm86
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 20, 2016 11:15 AM (A3ivx)
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>>Outrage girl seems very upset about people that couldn't get served at lunch counter 60 years ago.
She was ramping up to declare Shapiro knows nothing because of his white privilege with all of that comfort talk.....bet she did late in the discussion.
She was ramping up to declare Shapiro knows nothing because of his white privilege with all of that comfort talk.....bet she did late in the discussion.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2016 11:15 AM (NOIQH)
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"A modern liberal ("progressive") is just a Bolshevik with the serial numbers filed off"
I'm so stealing that.
I'm so stealing that.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 20, 2016 11:16 AM (CAKDm)
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Typical argument style for liberals and facists. Never answer the question directly. Always segue into some rhetoric about income inequality and government solution.
I think Ben would have been well served to instruct the 'Reverend" that it was free men who were armed to protect themselves and their liberties who instituted the existence of the government he worships. And that the DoI states very clearly why and what the terms of that governments existence are.
I think Ben would have been well served to instruct the 'Reverend" that it was free men who were armed to protect themselves and their liberties who instituted the existence of the government he worships. And that the DoI states very clearly why and what the terms of that governments existence are.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 20, 2016 11:17 AM (qbnYE)
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Friendsh, we have nothing to fear from our left-fascist overlords.
Posted by: Juan McCain at August 20, 2016 11:18 AM (97XyN)
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"Why do you think that Government Compulsion is always the answer?"
Posted by: V the K
________
Maybe it is.
I'm imagining a country where we not only have unisex rest rooms but a Rest Room Corps who patrol malls and department stores to assist people in coming to accept our new, tolerant society.
"Excuse me, ma'am. That's a handsome boy you have there."
"Thank you, captain."
"It's major. Rest Room Corps major. How old is he?"
"Just turned three."
"I'll bet he has to go to the bathroom."
"No, major. He's good for now."
(Major waves. Three RRC Volunteers appear.)
"I think he has to go to the bathroom - NOW!"
-- to be continued --
Posted by: V the K
________
Maybe it is.
I'm imagining a country where we not only have unisex rest rooms but a Rest Room Corps who patrol malls and department stores to assist people in coming to accept our new, tolerant society.
"Excuse me, ma'am. That's a handsome boy you have there."
"Thank you, captain."
"It's major. Rest Room Corps major. How old is he?"
"Just turned three."
"I'll bet he has to go to the bathroom."
"No, major. He's good for now."
(Major waves. Three RRC Volunteers appear.)
"I think he has to go to the bathroom - NOW!"
-- to be continued --
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:18 AM (tWpnH)
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Haven't read the content, but, I'm sure you're right.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:18 AM (9ym/8)
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A good video to save. Thanks.
Posted by: KT at August 20, 2016 11:20 AM (qahv/)
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Who is that asshole?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:23 AM (9ym/8)
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It's interesting how as soon as a leftist loses an argument, he simply changes the subject.
I'm glad that at least there are public discussions of these issues. Baby steps...
I'm glad that at least there are public discussions of these issues. Baby steps...
Posted by: PJ at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (cHuNI)
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Freedom always, always, figures out the solution.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/8)
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This is going to get out of control, etc.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2016 11:25 AM (ZXR6+)
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on the one hand I wish that the statists would just finally decide that the situation is hopeless and go form their own state, and on the other I remember that C.S. Lewis quote about moral busybodies and I despair that they would feel they were deserting us and would have to stay and continue to torment us "for our own good"
Posted by: random lurker at August 20, 2016 11:29 AM (WF5ei)
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@ 25
Got sick and tired of chasing goal posts and topics so I no longer argue with ANY leftist.
Much more fun pointing and laughing at them.
Got sick and tired of chasing goal posts and topics so I no longer argue with ANY leftist.
Much more fun pointing and laughing at them.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 20, 2016 11:29 AM (X35Yt)
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The professional wrestler vs. 9 year old girl video in the sidebar is hilarious. They both deserve Oscars for that.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 11:30 AM (sdi6R)
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no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM
And at the same time hating the police.
no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM
And at the same time hating the police.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (IqV8l)
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The Hillary Happy Camps will be full of fun things to do like working in a rock quarry, having long roll calls to make sure no one has left, and learning how to use plastic bags to suffocate incorrigibles to save the State on having to buy ammo or Zyklon-B pellets.
I am sure the libtard Reverend Rainbow will not survive the initial 48 hours.
I am sure the libtard Reverend Rainbow will not survive the initial 48 hours.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (ej1L0)
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There are assholes, and there is government dicking with you.
When individuals act like assholes, you can fight them on equal terms, or associate with other individuals or sometimes you can even persuade an asshole to be a little bit less of an asshole.
When government decides to dick with you, you are dicked with the full force and coercion of the State.
Therein my friends lies the lesson.
When individuals act like assholes, you can fight them on equal terms, or associate with other individuals or sometimes you can even persuade an asshole to be a little bit less of an asshole.
When government decides to dick with you, you are dicked with the full force and coercion of the State.
Therein my friends lies the lesson.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 20, 2016 11:34 AM (3Rr8K)
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Gosh the reverend seems to have the racist belief that blacks can't succeed unless government puts its thumb on the scale for them.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 20, 2016 11:35 AM (Jen0I)
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Saw a brief clip this morning of three black pundits, two Republican/conservative and one Democrat operative, talking about whether Trumps recognition of what is happening in inner cities to the black population will win him votes. Both Rep. pundits had serious responses, including no, the black vote is solidly voting Democrat despite what Trump is saying, but that Trump is doing what what the Republicans should have been doing for years now, and that it's a step in the right direction, etc.
Democrat operative? Started blathering about how Trump is not a serious candidate, he's a joke, etc.
Absolutely not one word addressing what Trump said.
One word. Obvious.
Democrat operative? Started blathering about how Trump is not a serious candidate, he's a joke, etc.
Absolutely not one word addressing what Trump said.
One word. Obvious.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 20, 2016 11:36 AM (JbgDR)
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3 Both assholes are quite impossible to listen to. I honestly don't know how it is done. It is never a pleasure listening to Ben. He sounds like Porky Pig on crack.
Posted by: bour3 at August 20, 2016 10:58 AM (cyVTQ)
Yeah, let's dismiss what Shapiro says because of his voice. Obama has a really nice voice - too bad nothing but shit comes out of his mouth.
I think Shapiro's neverTrump stance is harmful and misguided. But he's a killer debater, who inevitably makes his opponents look like fools.
He might be a little guy with a high-pitched voice, but when he steps into the ring against leftist idiots, it's like Ali in his prime going up against pajama boy.
Posted by: bour3 at August 20, 2016 10:58 AM (cyVTQ)
Yeah, let's dismiss what Shapiro says because of his voice. Obama has a really nice voice - too bad nothing but shit comes out of his mouth.
I think Shapiro's neverTrump stance is harmful and misguided. But he's a killer debater, who inevitably makes his opponents look like fools.
He might be a little guy with a high-pitched voice, but when he steps into the ring against leftist idiots, it's like Ali in his prime going up against pajama boy.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 20, 2016 11:36 AM (P8951)
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30 The professional wrestler vs. 9 year old girl video in the sidebar is hilarious. They both deserve Oscars for that.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 11:30 AM (sdi6R)
I agree. Especially that little girl. She had all the wrestling moves down perfect.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 11:30 AM (sdi6R)
I agree. Especially that little girl. She had all the wrestling moves down perfect.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 11:36 AM (0qLQM)
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26 Freedom always, always, figures out the solution.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general. When law enforcement becomes a tool of oppression and enriching state agencies at the expense of citizens who have done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general. When law enforcement becomes a tool of oppression and enriching state agencies at the expense of citizens who have done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:37 AM (ywNoU)
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A 'Reverend' who supports the idea of government over free will.
Sounds like he wants his own self-determined theocracy.
Sounds like he wants his own self-determined theocracy.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:38 AM (OkKDg)
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The subtext of the leftist argument is always "shut up"
"Well you have a privileged life so you don't understand.." i.e. shut the fuck up
"Well Mr. Shapiro your Joo practices are protected by government etc" i.e. shut the fuck up joo bastard.
It's entirely reflexive and predictable.
"Well you have a privileged life so you don't understand.." i.e. shut the fuck up
"Well Mr. Shapiro your Joo practices are protected by government etc" i.e. shut the fuck up joo bastard.
It's entirely reflexive and predictable.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 20, 2016 11:39 AM (3Rr8K)
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And when they lose the argument, they don't think "I'm wrong", they think "we need censorship, lest people be dissuaded from our righteous cause."
You can tell the guy on the left is incurable. He is too emotionally invested in his religion. You can show him Mao, Stalin, Chavez, Kim Jong. #WASTF.
You can tell the guy on the left is incurable. He is too emotionally invested in his religion. You can show him Mao, Stalin, Chavez, Kim Jong. #WASTF.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:40 AM (uz/Pv)
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31
no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM
And at the same time hating the police.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (IqV8l)
Yep. Just like how guns should be kept out of the hands of everyone but police, but the police are pigs if they shoot a black criminal in self defense.
If the msm were honest, the Dems would lose every election.
no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM
And at the same time hating the police.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (IqV8l)
Yep. Just like how guns should be kept out of the hands of everyone but police, but the police are pigs if they shoot a black criminal in self defense.
If the msm were honest, the Dems would lose every election.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 20, 2016 11:40 AM (P8951)
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Is it a law that if you are a left-wing female, you have to have hideous eyewear and a bad dye-job?
I've noticed that unnatural hair-color seems to be part of the uniform...
I've noticed that unnatural hair-color seems to be part of the uniform...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:40 AM (OkKDg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 20, 2016 11:42 AM (A3ivx)
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>>Ben Shapiro is anti-Trump and his voice is annoying.
Well, that disqualifies him as a champion of Freedom.
Well, that disqualifies him as a champion of Freedom.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2016 11:42 AM (TjcfH)
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I am sure the libtard Reverend Rainbow will not survive the initial 48 hours.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (ej1L0)
Actually, he'll do OK. He'll be the one ratting out escape plans by his fellow inmates and then holding the door open while they're marched into the Happy Fun Gas Chamber.
And writing letters to the government explaining that his incarceration was a terrible mistake.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2016 11:33 AM (ej1L0)
Actually, he'll do OK. He'll be the one ratting out escape plans by his fellow inmates and then holding the door open while they're marched into the Happy Fun Gas Chamber.
And writing letters to the government explaining that his incarceration was a terrible mistake.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 11:43 AM (0qLQM)
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I've noticed that unnatural hair-color seems to be part of the uniform...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:40 AM (OkKDg)
That creature with pink hair who is wearing a man's suit is a woman?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:40 AM (OkKDg)
That creature with pink hair who is wearing a man's suit is a woman?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 20, 2016 11:44 AM (P8951)
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@43 I believe the principle is that when you feel deeply unhappy and vulnerable you look for ways to control others so as to neutralize their threats, and inflate your self esteem. And there is no better way in our time to control others and inflate your ego than to assume the stance of the totatlitarian left: I know better, I am on the side of history and progress, I am virtuous and I have the moral authority to crush the dissenters. And, by a few verbal taunts of "racist" "homophobe" etc I have the actual power to make you cower before me.
And what is the root cause of feeling deeply unhappy and vulnerable? Well being a fugly, ungifted and unlikeable person is a good start. So yeah the leftists tend to skew that way. Its a chicken and egg thing.
And what is the root cause of feeling deeply unhappy and vulnerable? Well being a fugly, ungifted and unlikeable person is a good start. So yeah the leftists tend to skew that way. Its a chicken and egg thing.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 20, 2016 11:44 AM (3Rr8K)
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26 Freedom always, always, figures out the solution.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
Fire Depts started out as Volunteer groups of citizens who would band together to fight fires.
Police started to a large part by a Town banding together, pooling its money through some form of taxation, and hiring a Sherriff... who could then call on the local citizenry as Deputies if needed.
Now... in my town, we have the Town's Police Dept., the County Sherriff, the Calif. Highway Patrol, Calif Bureau of Investigation... then FBI, TSA, ATF, Border Patrol....
They started as Forces of Freedom... but have morphed into entities of the State.
26 Freedom always, always, figures out the solution.
No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
Fire Depts started out as Volunteer groups of citizens who would band together to fight fires.
Police started to a large part by a Town banding together, pooling its money through some form of taxation, and hiring a Sherriff... who could then call on the local citizenry as Deputies if needed.
Now... in my town, we have the Town's Police Dept., the County Sherriff, the Calif. Highway Patrol, Calif Bureau of Investigation... then FBI, TSA, ATF, Border Patrol....
They started as Forces of Freedom... but have morphed into entities of the State.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 20, 2016 11:45 AM (qf6WZ)
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Yeah, Ben Shapiro is anti-Trump and his voice is annoying. What could he possibly have to say that is worthwhile.
Posted by: JROD at August 20, 2016 11:05 AM (wnwJC)
Don't you ever have anything else to say?
You are a bore.
Posted by: JROD at August 20, 2016 11:05 AM (wnwJC)
Don't you ever have anything else to say?
You are a bore.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)
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Professor Smarmy doesn't seem to understand that the religious freedom guaranteed by the Bill of Rights was imposed by the States as a condition to ratifying the Constitution.
The government doesn't guarantee that right; the States demanded it be something the government couldn't dick with.
The government doesn't guarantee that right; the States demanded it be something the government couldn't dick with.
Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (bIhmV)
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I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general.
Posted by: Insomniac
________
Agreed. That debate is only taking part on our side. Our side asks what the purpose of law enforcement is, what latitude officers should have, how police ought to be adapting to changing social and technological environments, etc. We support "law and order" in general but raise concerns on the specifics.
As Bertram Cabot Jr. points out, the other side is against police, reflexively and always.
Posted by: Insomniac
________
Agreed. That debate is only taking part on our side. Our side asks what the purpose of law enforcement is, what latitude officers should have, how police ought to be adapting to changing social and technological environments, etc. We support "law and order" in general but raise concerns on the specifics.
As Bertram Cabot Jr. points out, the other side is against police, reflexively and always.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (tWpnH)
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (TjcfH)
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They have the freaky hair color and clothes because they reject your "normality" squares!
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (fA75F)
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#BizarreHairColorMatters
Posted by: Jen Psocki at August 20, 2016 11:48 AM (Tyii7)
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The government doesn't guarantee that right; the States demanded it be something the government couldn't dick with.
Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (bIhmV)
Exactly. This is the difference between progressives and conservatives: rights are not created by government fiat, they exist prior to government. That's why the constitutional language is not "the people are granted this right" but rather "this right shall not be abridged."
Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (bIhmV)
Exactly. This is the difference between progressives and conservatives: rights are not created by government fiat, they exist prior to government. That's why the constitutional language is not "the people are granted this right" but rather "this right shall not be abridged."
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 11:49 AM (0qLQM)
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The professional wrestler vs. 9 year old girl video in the sidebar is hilarious. They both deserve Oscars for that.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 11:30 AM (sdi6R)
I agree. Especially that little girl. She had all the wrestling moves down perfect.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 11:36 AM (0qLQM)
I followed that, to the video of the Japanese female wrestler, who happens to be pretty, who had the bones in her face broken by the ugly monster who apparently didn't like her.
Extreme phoniness or extreme, brutal assault. No thanks, I'll take neither.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 11:30 AM (sdi6R)
I agree. Especially that little girl. She had all the wrestling moves down perfect.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 11:36 AM (0qLQM)
I followed that, to the video of the Japanese female wrestler, who happens to be pretty, who had the bones in her face broken by the ugly monster who apparently didn't like her.
Extreme phoniness or extreme, brutal assault. No thanks, I'll take neither.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 11:50 AM (Pz4pT)
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No offense.......police, fire.......are products of freedom. Not the state.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general. When law enforcement becomes a tool of oppression and enriching state agencies at the expense of citizens who have done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:37 AM (ywNoU)
It depends on the Laws being enforced...
Police are an enforcement arm.... Shapiro was correct, Jim Crow laws were Anti Freedom on to BOTH sides.
Now the Laws are Anti Freedom by giving some more privileges than others, based on a group identity.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:24 AM (9ym/
I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general. When law enforcement becomes a tool of oppression and enriching state agencies at the expense of citizens who have done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:37 AM (ywNoU)
It depends on the Laws being enforced...
Police are an enforcement arm.... Shapiro was correct, Jim Crow laws were Anti Freedom on to BOTH sides.
Now the Laws are Anti Freedom by giving some more privileges than others, based on a group identity.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 20, 2016 11:50 AM (qf6WZ)
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To the "liberal," there are apparently two choices: (1) a government that can do anything and everything, or (2) no government at all, with an emphasis on the absence of police and fire departments.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM (tWpnH)
Yes, liberals are supposed to be smart, yet the liberal toolkit is the list of logical fallacies. False dichotomy, moving the goalposts, tu quoque, ad hominem (used by that harpy to his right).
I'd personally be happy with a government consisting of little more than police, courts, army, legislatures, executives. Maybe even contract out fire dept.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:10 AM (tWpnH)
Yes, liberals are supposed to be smart, yet the liberal toolkit is the list of logical fallacies. False dichotomy, moving the goalposts, tu quoque, ad hominem (used by that harpy to his right).
I'd personally be happy with a government consisting of little more than police, courts, army, legislatures, executives. Maybe even contract out fire dept.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:51 AM (uz/Pv)
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Don't you ever have anything else to say?
Freedom is only for those who agree with JROD.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (TjcfH)
Jrod is an open borders fella. So yeah...
Freedom is only for those who agree with JROD.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2016 11:46 AM (TjcfH)
Jrod is an open borders fella. So yeah...
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 11:51 AM (Pz4pT)
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"I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general"
You have a point. When the police turn into the Gendarmes.
But years ago, a territorial city or county set up their own
You have a point. When the police turn into the Gendarmes.
But years ago, a territorial city or county set up their own
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:52 AM (9ym/8)
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The government doesn't guarantee that right; the States demanded it be something the government couldn't dick with.
If rights came from the government, we wouldn't have them if government disappeared. If the government fell, would I no longer be able to own a gun?
Yet, they will tell you healthcare is a fundamental human right-- that it is your right, even if the government ISN'T supplying it. This one pre-exists (they say), yet the other doesn't.
If rights came from the government, we wouldn't have them if government disappeared. If the government fell, would I no longer be able to own a gun?
Yet, they will tell you healthcare is a fundamental human right-- that it is your right, even if the government ISN'T supplying it. This one pre-exists (they say), yet the other doesn't.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:52 AM (OkKDg)
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I think I'll dye my...uh...exit purple.
Posted by: Hope's Rolo at August 20, 2016 11:53 AM (Tyii7)
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*blinks*
They have so warped the English language into coded catch-phrases in the later part of this article, I am having difficulty groking it. In fact the whole story needs editing for clarity.
https://www.washcoll.edu/live/news/5933-searching-history-seeking-justice
They have so warped the English language into coded catch-phrases in the later part of this article, I am having difficulty groking it. In fact the whole story needs editing for clarity.
https://www.washcoll.edu/live/news/5933-searching-history-seeking-justice
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 20, 2016 11:54 AM (A3ivx)
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I'd personally be happy with a government consisting of little more than police, courts, army, legislatures, executives. Maybe even contract out fire dept.
Posted by: Yuimental
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Here's how I would structure government:
(1) Services
(1a) Security
(1b) Infrastructure
(2) Benefits
(2a) Military pensions
(2b) There is no (2b)
Posted by: Yuimental
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Here's how I would structure government:
(1) Services
(1a) Security
(1b) Infrastructure
(2) Benefits
(2a) Military pensions
(2b) There is no (2b)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 11:56 AM (tWpnH)
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Liberals/Progs are so patently offensive that I'd almost rather be back having intensive chemotherapy than listen to their vile filth.
Posted by: setnaffa at August 20, 2016 11:58 AM (jl6Ly)
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Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2016 11:52 AM (OkKDg)
Actually.... people do have a Right to Health Care... they have the right to put a damn bandaid on themselves, to try to help THEMSELVES.
They do NOT have a Right to FORCE me to aid them... they do not have a RIGHT to force me to PAY for it... by the State stealing the fruits of my Labor through the income Tax (which is IMO, Slavery).
The best way to look at it is this.... You have the Right to Freedom of Speech.... does that mean that 'I' have to pay for a Commercial on National TV so you can speak?
That is the leap the Left makes... and tries to force down our throats. A Right suddenly becomes a Government sponsored Obligation... which is then controlled by the Government...
Actually.... people do have a Right to Health Care... they have the right to put a damn bandaid on themselves, to try to help THEMSELVES.
They do NOT have a Right to FORCE me to aid them... they do not have a RIGHT to force me to PAY for it... by the State stealing the fruits of my Labor through the income Tax (which is IMO, Slavery).
The best way to look at it is this.... You have the Right to Freedom of Speech.... does that mean that 'I' have to pay for a Commercial on National TV so you can speak?
That is the leap the Left makes... and tries to force down our throats. A Right suddenly becomes a Government sponsored Obligation... which is then controlled by the Government...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 20, 2016 11:58 AM (qf6WZ)
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I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general. When law enforcement becomes a tool of oppression and enriching state agencies at the expense of citizens who have done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:37 AM (ywNoU)
Someone with more knowledge of the history than I have can say whether there was ever a time when police in this country were agents of freedom/order... in that order.
My impression though, is generally they've been upholders of the power structure, whatever it is. So nowadays, when governments are more about the coercive accumulation of that power/money, police seem to be more involved in taking away freedom than they are helping preserve it.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 11:37 AM (ywNoU)
Someone with more knowledge of the history than I have can say whether there was ever a time when police in this country were agents of freedom/order... in that order.
My impression though, is generally they've been upholders of the power structure, whatever it is. So nowadays, when governments are more about the coercive accumulation of that power/money, police seem to be more involved in taking away freedom than they are helping preserve it.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 11:58 AM (Pz4pT)
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I get the appeal of Christianity. I do not get the appeal of this drab, shitty, religion of liberalism. Maybe they cannot accept that not all social ills can be fixed, or that coercive fixes are immoral? (like putting an end to fist fights by mandating all babies' arms be cut off).
Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable. Leftism is in infinitely worse shape: mountainsof empirical evidence against it, yet its adherents still cling to it like grim death.
Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable. Leftism is in infinitely worse shape: mountainsof empirical evidence against it, yet its adherents still cling to it like grim death.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
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...totalitarian-in-training who is confident that he will be the one at the gate, pointing left for the gas chambers and right to the work camp
Typical hyperbole of the vast right wing conspiracy. The camps won't be *that* bad. Huma has some innovative ideas about outsourcing security that perhaps might reignite some longstanding animosity between certain groups and security but it shouldn't ruffle too many feathers.
Typical hyperbole of the vast right wing conspiracy. The camps won't be *that* bad. Huma has some innovative ideas about outsourcing security that perhaps might reignite some longstanding animosity between certain groups and security but it shouldn't ruffle too many feathers.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 20, 2016 12:00 PM (ZnIt3)
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the black vote is solidly voting Democrat despite what Trump is saying
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Well the 2 Black conservatives are right about that of course; Black votes at this point are a foregone 80-85% Democrat on a good day. That doesn't mean Trump isn't gaining any Black voters.
the black vote is solidly voting Democrat despite what Trump is saying
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Well the 2 Black conservatives are right about that of course; Black votes at this point are a foregone 80-85% Democrat on a good day. That doesn't mean Trump isn't gaining any Black voters.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:00 PM (5o5ek)
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I'd personally be happy with a government consisting of little more than police, courts, army, legislatures, executives. Maybe even contract out fire dept.
Yup. With the added benefit that there would be a less corruption because there would be so much less to corrupt.
Yup. With the added benefit that there would be a less corruption because there would be so much less to corrupt.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:00 PM (jn7FC)
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Gosh the reverend seems to have the racist belief that blacks can't succeed unless government puts its thumb on the scale for them.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 20, 2016 11:35 AM (Jen0I)
You know, when setting up such a debate, it would be fun to have a big, tough-looking black guy up front in the crowd, and when one of the Leftards starts his spiel about how the government has to help blacks in that fashion. Have this guy look right at the Leftard with a fast-growing look of incredulity on his face, then he stands up, and blurts out: "You're just a racist asshole! I can't believe it. I've never met a white racist before. You're just a filthy racist!" Let him approach the Leftard, and hover over him menacingly, while the Conservative members of the panel "try" and eventually succeed in getting him to calm down and retake his seat.
Pure theater, but it would make the point.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 20, 2016 11:35 AM (Jen0I)
You know, when setting up such a debate, it would be fun to have a big, tough-looking black guy up front in the crowd, and when one of the Leftards starts his spiel about how the government has to help blacks in that fashion. Have this guy look right at the Leftard with a fast-growing look of incredulity on his face, then he stands up, and blurts out: "You're just a racist asshole! I can't believe it. I've never met a white racist before. You're just a filthy racist!" Let him approach the Leftard, and hover over him menacingly, while the Conservative members of the panel "try" and eventually succeed in getting him to calm down and retake his seat.
Pure theater, but it would make the point.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 20, 2016 12:00 PM (oqkO3)
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Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
It only works if you try it.
It's kind of the paradox of faith; you don't get the proof until after you believe in it.
It only works if you try it.
It's kind of the paradox of faith; you don't get the proof until after you believe in it.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:02 PM (jn7FC)
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Police now mostly collect revenue for the state.
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2016 12:03 PM (fA75F)
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I don't think I would try to argue with Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: eleven at August 20, 2016 12:03 PM (qUNWi)
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The leftist solution is never "teach a man to fish" it is " if you have a fish, you are an exploitive capitalist, so I will take it away and redistribute it. It's your fair share."
They are locusts, parasites. Maybe this is related to their need to have guarantees? I don't know.
They are locusts, parasites. Maybe this is related to their need to have guarantees? I don't know.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 12:04 PM (uz/Pv)
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Bring us your misfits, your freaks, your screwballs.
Posted by: The Left at August 20, 2016 12:04 PM (Tyii7)
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Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable. Leftism is in infinitely worse shape: mountainsof empirical evidence against it, yet its adherents still cling to it like grim death.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
If Christianity were verifiable, it wouldn't be a religion, it would simply be history.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
If Christianity were verifiable, it wouldn't be a religion, it would simply be history.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 20, 2016 12:06 PM (oqkO3)
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Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
I think that's the point.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
I think that's the point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:07 PM (Zu3d9)
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Christianitys' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental
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If it were verifiable, no one would need faith.
Posted by: Yuimental
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If it were verifiable, no one would need faith.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (tWpnH)
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You can't have a debate with a Consequentialist / Utilitarian.
They are not honest interlocutors.
They are not honest interlocutors.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (TjcfH)
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61 "I think there's room for honest debate as to the police and "law enforcement" in general"
You have a point. When the police turn into the Gendarmes.
But years ago, a territorial city or county set up their own
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:52 AM (9ym/
There's certainly a change in dynamics when the police become more removed, geographically and culturally, from the community they are supposed to "serve and protect."
You have a point. When the police turn into the Gendarmes.
But years ago, a territorial city or county set up their own
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 11:52 AM (9ym/
There's certainly a change in dynamics when the police become more removed, geographically and culturally, from the community they are supposed to "serve and protect."
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (ywNoU)
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This debate actually took place in 2-014. It took some digging, but I was finally able to attach a name to the High Priest of Leftist Government ... Professor James Wellman, chair of the comparative religion department at University of Washington
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (jn7FC)
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Black votes at this point are a foregone 80-85% Democrat on a good day.
CNN just put up a graphic on the black vote :
Clinton 91%
Trump 1%
Black votes at this point are a foregone 80-85% Democrat on a good day.
CNN just put up a graphic on the black vote :
Clinton 91%
Trump 1%
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (IqV8l)
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I despair that they would feel they were deserting us and would have to stay and continue to torment us "for our own good"
Posted by: random lurker at August 20, 2016 11:29 AM (WF5ei)
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Oh that's what they would say all right. Deep down they'd be fuming that someone was splashing around in unregulated fun and prosperity.
"HEY! Everybody out of the pool! For your own good."
I despair that they would feel they were deserting us and would have to stay and continue to torment us "for our own good"
Posted by: random lurker at August 20, 2016 11:29 AM (WF5ei)
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Oh that's what they would say all right. Deep down they'd be fuming that someone was splashing around in unregulated fun and prosperity.
"HEY! Everybody out of the pool! For your own good."
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:09 PM (5o5ek)
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"Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable. "
Neither is an any other religion in history.
We're all animals floating on a rock in the midst of nothingness.
Neither is an any other religion in history.
We're all animals floating on a rock in the midst of nothingness.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 12:10 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Elephant Man at August 20, 2016 12:11 PM (TjcfH)
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Yuimental -
I was typing while others were clicking Post. Didn't mean to pile on.
But your observations about the adherents to Liberalism have nothing but faith. Got to hand it to them, they not only believe in the unseen - they believe in the disproven.
I was typing while others were clicking Post. Didn't mean to pile on.
But your observations about the adherents to Liberalism have nothing but faith. Got to hand it to them, they not only believe in the unseen - they believe in the disproven.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:11 PM (tWpnH)
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Professor James Wellman's Main Religious Belief is White Guilt:
I remain a part of the Christian tribe and a country that does not live up to taking care of the orphan, the poor, the invisible ones. A country that has done great damage to other cultures and yet one that claims over and over again to be exceptional. So I live with the guilt of being in this country and accepting its privilege and knowing how much damage a dominate Christian culture has done to native people, gay people, black people, Iraqi's (sic), women it makes me repent.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jameswellman/ 2016/04/my-white-tribe-the-unmarked-group/
I remain a part of the Christian tribe and a country that does not live up to taking care of the orphan, the poor, the invisible ones. A country that has done great damage to other cultures and yet one that claims over and over again to be exceptional. So I live with the guilt of being in this country and accepting its privilege and knowing how much damage a dominate Christian culture has done to native people, gay people, black people, Iraqi's (sic), women it makes me repent.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jameswellman/ 2016/04/my-white-tribe-the-unmarked-group/
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:12 PM (jn7FC)
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Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable. Leftism is in infinitely worse shape: mountainsof empirical evidence against it, yet its adherents still cling to it like grim death.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
If Christianity were verifiable, it wouldn't be a religion, it would simply be history.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 20, 2016 12:06 PM (oqkO3)
80 Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
I think that's the point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:07 PM (Zu3d9)
81 Christianitys' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental
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If it were verifiable, no one would need faith.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (tWpnH)
All valid responses, but they do sidestep the issue: For those who do not have faith, how does one get it? How do you convince the person who doesn't have it, to make the leap, when the leap more or less requires one to have it?
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
If Christianity were verifiable, it wouldn't be a religion, it would simply be history.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 20, 2016 12:06 PM (oqkO3)
80 Christianity' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental at August 20, 2016 11:59 AM (uz/Pv)
I think that's the point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:07 PM (Zu3d9)
81 Christianitys' main problem for me, is that it is not verifiable.
Posted by: Yuimental
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If it were verifiable, no one would need faith.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (tWpnH)
All valid responses, but they do sidestep the issue: For those who do not have faith, how does one get it? How do you convince the person who doesn't have it, to make the leap, when the leap more or less requires one to have it?
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (Pz4pT)
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Totalitarian is correct. They are never interested in debating the merit of ideas. Essentially, everyone is to shut up and listen to them tell us how it is, how it was, and how it will be. They perfected this technique with the issue of racism. As soon as any white person discusses any aspect of race, they attempt to shut you down:
by calling you a racist, thus you have no valid opinion and should be shot on sight;
or they assert the sophistry of white privilege, thus, you have no valid opinion because you are white and privileged, {I have never met anyone who used this term that could define it.}
or they state "you are not black," which translates to because your not black you have no valid opinion on the matter. How could you have a valid opinion, your not black? Duh!
by calling you a racist, thus you have no valid opinion and should be shot on sight;
or they assert the sophistry of white privilege, thus, you have no valid opinion because you are white and privileged, {I have never met anyone who used this term that could define it.}
or they state "you are not black," which translates to because your not black you have no valid opinion on the matter. How could you have a valid opinion, your not black? Duh!
Posted by: Locke Common at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (I6Am+)
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(My typing is barely coherent, if that. Need more expresso.)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (tWpnH)
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Related: This is the headline at a WaPo news section--not a blog section, but "news":
"It's hard to imagine a much worse pitch Donald Trump could have made for the black vote"
I don't know how these people live with themselves.
"It's hard to imagine a much worse pitch Donald Trump could have made for the black vote"
I don't know how these people live with themselves.
Posted by: Carly Simon at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (gfJWV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 20, 2016 12:16 PM (9ym/8)
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CNN just put up a graphic on the black vote :
Clinton 91%
Trump 1%
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (IqV8l)
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Yeah, that's the sort of thing CNN likes to do. That USC Dornsife/LA Times poll that's got people so curious says Trump's gaining Black votes and now has 14.6%.
http://tinyurl.com/h9qew45
CNN just put up a graphic on the black vote :
Clinton 91%
Trump 1%
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 20, 2016 12:08 PM (IqV8l)
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Yeah, that's the sort of thing CNN likes to do. That USC Dornsife/LA Times poll that's got people so curious says Trump's gaining Black votes and now has 14.6%.
http://tinyurl.com/h9qew45
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:17 PM (5o5ek)
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Sorry, I didn't realize I had pasted that much.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 20, 2016 12:17 PM (ZnIt3)
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"Cute" arguments aside, only something catastrophic is going to knock these people off their inexorable drive to impose their will on the American people.
A good friend of mine is in charge of global operations for a major bank. He is so confident about the global banking system that he has spent the last several years making sure he knows how to grow, hunt, and prepare his own food. There are stories I've seen about how many billionaires are investing in bunkers. As usual, the smart money is ahead of idiots like pink hair and more-government guy, and are preparing for a near future in which not only are government services curtailed, there's not really any commerce either. Politics are gonna politic, but it looks like it's time to take self-sufficiency to another level.
A good friend of mine is in charge of global operations for a major bank. He is so confident about the global banking system that he has spent the last several years making sure he knows how to grow, hunt, and prepare his own food. There are stories I've seen about how many billionaires are investing in bunkers. As usual, the smart money is ahead of idiots like pink hair and more-government guy, and are preparing for a near future in which not only are government services curtailed, there's not really any commerce either. Politics are gonna politic, but it looks like it's time to take self-sufficiency to another level.
Posted by: major major major major at August 20, 2016 12:18 PM (rJBvy)
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They are all so rude to Ben Shapiro. How great he is at keeping his cool.
Posted by: m at August 20, 2016 12:18 PM (gfJWV)
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Those activist Marxists who are incapable of redistributing wealth will gladly redistribute guilt. It's the next best influence.
Posted by: Fritz at August 20, 2016 12:19 PM (HVQlX)
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Zogby:
Trump's numbers have dipped a little among middle income voters, Hillary Clinton now leads among those voters who earn $35k-50k (38%-37%), $50k-75K (37%-34%) and $75-100k (45-35%). Clinton also leads big among her core base-Millennials 18-29 years old (36%-26%), 18-24 year olds (59%-22%), Hispanics (51%-18%) and African Americans (81%-8%), which is not a big surprise.
CNN is full of shit. I've seen higher.
Trump's numbers have dipped a little among middle income voters, Hillary Clinton now leads among those voters who earn $35k-50k (38%-37%), $50k-75K (37%-34%) and $75-100k (45-35%). Clinton also leads big among her core base-Millennials 18-29 years old (36%-26%), 18-24 year olds (59%-22%), Hispanics (51%-18%) and African Americans (81%-8%), which is not a big surprise.
CNN is full of shit. I've seen higher.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 20, 2016 12:21 PM (ZnIt3)
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jameswellman/ 2016/04/my-white-tribe-the-unmarked-group/
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:12 PM (jn7FC)
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First, he can't spell "dominant."
Second, I never get these people who want to remain citizens of such an oppressive country. Go contribute your goodwill and energy to one of our competitors, like FRANCE, or one of our enemies, like North Korea.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jameswellman/ 2016/04/my-white-tribe-the-unmarked-group/
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:12 PM (jn7FC)
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First, he can't spell "dominant."
Second, I never get these people who want to remain citizens of such an oppressive country. Go contribute your goodwill and energy to one of our competitors, like FRANCE, or one of our enemies, like North Korea.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:21 PM (5o5ek)
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How great he is at keeping his cool.
Posted by: m at August 20, 2016 12:18 PM (gfJWV)
Yup.
I would have said, "I can't believe how fvcking stupid you are!" within five minutes.
Posted by: m at August 20, 2016 12:18 PM (gfJWV)
Yup.
I would have said, "I can't believe how fvcking stupid you are!" within five minutes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:21 PM (Zu3d9)
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I can't help but notice his White Guilt has not led him to quit his well-paid, taxpayer funded sinecure as Chair of the comparative religion department at University of Washington and give it to a native person, a gay person, a black person, an Iraqi's or a woman.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:23 PM (jn7FC)
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Yes,he should go to North Korea where he can feed some hungry people...
Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2016 12:26 PM (fA75F)
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"Cute" arguments aside, only something catastrophic is going to knock these people off their inexorable drive to impose their will on the American people.
Something catastrophic always does. The Old Testament teaches there is a 'Cycle of Apostasy.'
1. Your people are poor, but pious, so you work hard and glorify God.
2. Because of your hard work, discipline, and faithfulness, your people become strong and prosperous.
3. In your prosperity, you turn from God, turn from hard work, turn from discipline. You don't notice at first, because you have a lot of wealth banked, and besides, you're having a good time.
4. The wealth runs out, and your lazy, faithless population gets laid out.
5. Rinse and Repeat.
We are somewhere between stages 3 and 4.
Something catastrophic always does. The Old Testament teaches there is a 'Cycle of Apostasy.'
1. Your people are poor, but pious, so you work hard and glorify God.
2. Because of your hard work, discipline, and faithfulness, your people become strong and prosperous.
3. In your prosperity, you turn from God, turn from hard work, turn from discipline. You don't notice at first, because you have a lot of wealth banked, and besides, you're having a good time.
4. The wealth runs out, and your lazy, faithless population gets laid out.
5. Rinse and Repeat.
We are somewhere between stages 3 and 4.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:26 PM (jn7FC)
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All valid responses, but they do sidestep the issue: For those who do not have faith, how does one get it? How do you convince the person who doesn't have it, to make the leap, when the leap more or less requires one to have it?
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: BurtTC
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The standard Catholic answer is that faith is an act of grace - that is, faith in God is a gift from God.
Another answer would be an honest admission that God is infinite and therefore unknowable in its entirety. (I could never buy that everyone there is about God is written in the sixty-odd books of the Bible.) So don't try.
Asking someone to keep an open mind and an open heart is always good advice, whether in matters of faith or other things.
Suggesting that what's right for me might not be the thing for you - say, if you want what I have faithwise, maybe being an Evangelical Lutheran won't provide that for you but try the Methodists or the Baptists.
Or, ask them to think back on their life and if they've ever experienced something good that can't be explained logically or scientifically or dismissed as random or coincidental.
(I know, though - saying "you must have faith in order to have faith" is ridiculously recursive.)
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: BurtTC
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The standard Catholic answer is that faith is an act of grace - that is, faith in God is a gift from God.
Another answer would be an honest admission that God is infinite and therefore unknowable in its entirety. (I could never buy that everyone there is about God is written in the sixty-odd books of the Bible.) So don't try.
Asking someone to keep an open mind and an open heart is always good advice, whether in matters of faith or other things.
Suggesting that what's right for me might not be the thing for you - say, if you want what I have faithwise, maybe being an Evangelical Lutheran won't provide that for you but try the Methodists or the Baptists.
Or, ask them to think back on their life and if they've ever experienced something good that can't be explained logically or scientifically or dismissed as random or coincidental.
(I know, though - saying "you must have faith in order to have faith" is ridiculously recursive.)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:28 PM (tWpnH)
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You may not like Ben Shapiro's high voice and rapid fire delivery, but having high powered debaters with quick responses on our side like him could not be more crucial.
Most panels are in front of LIV, lefty programmed audiences (think The View), moderated by liberals, and often with three or four liberal panelists for every conservative. A quiet, thoughtful, reasoned presence gets us nowhere in those situations.
Like it or not (and I don't), as Breitbart said, politics is downstream of pop culture now. A big, big reason we are losing the long war is the Jon Stewarts, Bill Mahers, and Steven Colberts of the world who provide cover fire for leftist pols.
A Ben Shapiro who can turn these lefty pundits and comics on their heads is like having a Queen on the chessboard in this particular aspect of the culture war.
Most panels are in front of LIV, lefty programmed audiences (think The View), moderated by liberals, and often with three or four liberal panelists for every conservative. A quiet, thoughtful, reasoned presence gets us nowhere in those situations.
Like it or not (and I don't), as Breitbart said, politics is downstream of pop culture now. A big, big reason we are losing the long war is the Jon Stewarts, Bill Mahers, and Steven Colberts of the world who provide cover fire for leftist pols.
A Ben Shapiro who can turn these lefty pundits and comics on their heads is like having a Queen on the chessboard in this particular aspect of the culture war.
Posted by: RM at August 20, 2016 12:30 PM (U3LtS)
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Okay, I saw the USC Dornsife's pictures and Trump was 14.6 to Hillary's 79.7 a few days ago. As of yesterday it's 13.6 to 80.7.
The CNN report of 1% is ludicrous on its face.
Okay, I saw the USC Dornsife's pictures and Trump was 14.6 to Hillary's 79.7 a few days ago. As of yesterday it's 13.6 to 80.7.
The CNN report of 1% is ludicrous on its face.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:30 PM (5o5ek)
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91 .......All valid responses, but they do sidestep the issue: For those who do not have faith, how does one get it? How do you convince the person who doesn't have it, to make the leap, when the leap more or less requires one to have it?
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (Pz4pT)
If you are seeking what Christians have, the source is Christ Himself, not his followers. There is a well-worn path to this saving faith called the Roman Road, which is a step by step walk of faith from one essential point or concept to another, but it has to start with an acknowledgement that there is in fact a living God, which is sometimes a hard step to work up to.
My suggestion is to seriously consider what God had to say about His own nature, and our nature in return, here is one place to start: http://tinyurl.com/gsok577
Maybe the answer is, you don't, and you let everyone sink or swim themselves, but... it's still not a satisfactory answer to that person who genuinely WANTS what you already have.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2016 12:13 PM (Pz4pT)
If you are seeking what Christians have, the source is Christ Himself, not his followers. There is a well-worn path to this saving faith called the Roman Road, which is a step by step walk of faith from one essential point or concept to another, but it has to start with an acknowledgement that there is in fact a living God, which is sometimes a hard step to work up to.
My suggestion is to seriously consider what God had to say about His own nature, and our nature in return, here is one place to start: http://tinyurl.com/gsok577
Posted by: John the Baptist at August 20, 2016 12:31 PM (MPH+3)
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That USC Dornsife/LA Times poll that's got people so curious says Trump's gaining Black votes and now has 14.6%.
http://tinyurl.com/h9qew45
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:17 PM (5o5ek)
I said yesterday that if that is true, Hillary is toast.
Democrats need 95% of the black vote, or they can't win.
Barring vote fraud, of course. I think this year it will be massive, in-your-face, and the GOPe will be in on it.
That USC Dornsife/LA Times poll that's got people so curious says Trump's gaining Black votes and now has 14.6%.
http://tinyurl.com/h9qew45
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:17 PM (5o5ek)
I said yesterday that if that is true, Hillary is toast.
Democrats need 95% of the black vote, or they can't win.
Barring vote fraud, of course. I think this year it will be massive, in-your-face, and the GOPe will be in on it.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 12:35 PM (sdi6R)
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his White Guilt has not led him to quit his well-paid, taxpayer funded sinecure as Chair of the comparative religion department at University of Washington and give it to a native person, a gay person, a black person, an Iraqi's or a woman.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:23 PM (jn7FC)
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That's why my standing question to SJWs is "What do you want me to do?" Me, iforgot. Aside from voting or speechifying or other overtly political activity, what do you want ME to do? Quit my job so that another opening exists for some oppressed person, give away my life savings to people of color, kill myself? What do you want me to do?
If I ever get to ask that question in real life, I expect to get a blank stare. Whatever they want me to do, they'll have to be willing to do themselves.
his White Guilt has not led him to quit his well-paid, taxpayer funded sinecure as Chair of the comparative religion department at University of Washington and give it to a native person, a gay person, a black person, an Iraqi's or a woman.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:23 PM (jn7FC)
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That's why my standing question to SJWs is "What do you want me to do?" Me, iforgot. Aside from voting or speechifying or other overtly political activity, what do you want ME to do? Quit my job so that another opening exists for some oppressed person, give away my life savings to people of color, kill myself? What do you want me to do?
If I ever get to ask that question in real life, I expect to get a blank stare. Whatever they want me to do, they'll have to be willing to do themselves.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (5o5ek)
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@CBD
Thanks for putting up that video. But, I have to wonder whether you agree with what Shapiro was saying.
Much of the segregation in the South was required by Jim Crow laws. If someone wanted to compete against Woolworth's and their segregated lunch counter by opening up a non-segregated lunch counter, they were prohibited from doing so by law.
Congress "solved" that problem by prohibiting Woolworth's from having a segregated lunch counter, and in the process exceeded their constitutional authority. Had they limited themselves to to prohibiting North Carolina and other states from enforcing discriminatory laws, they would have been well within the constitutional power given to them by the 14th amendment.
Anyway, Shapiro was advocating freedom of the marketplace. Meaning that the florist could refuse to provide flowers to his Jewish wedding. This would also mean that if someone wants to have a business that has segregated seating, or refuses to serve Blacks, they should be allowed to do so if they can compete in the marketplace. His view, which I agree with, is that those who discriminate will have a hard time competing and at least in some cases, will go out of business.
This sounds to me very much like what you would refer to as "inflammatory" rhetoric. Do I have you pegged incorrectly?
Thanks for putting up that video. But, I have to wonder whether you agree with what Shapiro was saying.
Much of the segregation in the South was required by Jim Crow laws. If someone wanted to compete against Woolworth's and their segregated lunch counter by opening up a non-segregated lunch counter, they were prohibited from doing so by law.
Congress "solved" that problem by prohibiting Woolworth's from having a segregated lunch counter, and in the process exceeded their constitutional authority. Had they limited themselves to to prohibiting North Carolina and other states from enforcing discriminatory laws, they would have been well within the constitutional power given to them by the 14th amendment.
Anyway, Shapiro was advocating freedom of the marketplace. Meaning that the florist could refuse to provide flowers to his Jewish wedding. This would also mean that if someone wants to have a business that has segregated seating, or refuses to serve Blacks, they should be allowed to do so if they can compete in the marketplace. His view, which I agree with, is that those who discriminate will have a hard time competing and at least in some cases, will go out of business.
This sounds to me very much like what you would refer to as "inflammatory" rhetoric. Do I have you pegged incorrectly?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (R+30W)
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108 You may not like Ben Shapiro's high voice and rapid fire delivery, but having high powered debaters with quick responses on our side like him could not be more crucial.
Most panels are in front of LIV, lefty programmed audiences (think The View), moderated by liberals, and often with three or four liberal panelists for every conservative. A quiet, thoughtful, reasoned presence gets us nowhere in those situations.
Like it or not (and I don't), as Breitbart said, politics is downstream of pop culture now. A big, big reason we are losing the long war is the Jon Stewarts, Bill Mahers, and Steven Colberts of the world who provide cover fire for leftist pols.
A Ben Shapiro who can turn these lefty pundits and comics on their heads is like having a Queen on the chessboard in this particular aspect of the culture war.
Posted by: RM at August 20, 2016 12:30 PM (U3LtS)
You are correct. A whole lot of people think that simply out-talking the other side is all that's necessary to win a debate.
See also derisive laughter, to wit Biden vs. Ryan.
Most panels are in front of LIV, lefty programmed audiences (think The View), moderated by liberals, and often with three or four liberal panelists for every conservative. A quiet, thoughtful, reasoned presence gets us nowhere in those situations.
Like it or not (and I don't), as Breitbart said, politics is downstream of pop culture now. A big, big reason we are losing the long war is the Jon Stewarts, Bill Mahers, and Steven Colberts of the world who provide cover fire for leftist pols.
A Ben Shapiro who can turn these lefty pundits and comics on their heads is like having a Queen on the chessboard in this particular aspect of the culture war.
Posted by: RM at August 20, 2016 12:30 PM (U3LtS)
You are correct. A whole lot of people think that simply out-talking the other side is all that's necessary to win a debate.
See also derisive laughter, to wit Biden vs. Ryan.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 12:39 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:39 PM (tWpnH)
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Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 12:26 PM (jn7FC)
AKA, the Gods of the Copybook Headings will have their say.
AKA, the Gods of the Copybook Headings will have their say.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 20, 2016 12:40 PM (0KfYo)
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Okay, I saw the USC Dornsife's pictures and Trump was 14.6 to Hillary's 79.7 a few days ago. As of yesterday it's 13.6 to 80.7.
The CNN report of 1% is ludicrous on its face.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper
They're trying to make it appear as 'socially unacceptable' as possible for African-Americans. I wonder what's next for CNN?
This graph?
Clinton 91%
Uncle Toms/House n****s 1%
btw: what link could you provide for the day to
day changes you noted?
The CNN report of 1% is ludicrous on its face.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper
They're trying to make it appear as 'socially unacceptable' as possible for African-Americans. I wonder what's next for CNN?
This graph?
Clinton 91%
Uncle Toms/House n****s 1%
btw: what link could you provide for the day to
day changes you noted?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 20, 2016 12:41 PM (ZnIt3)
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This sounds to me very much like what you would refer to as "inflammatory" rhetoric. Do I have you pegged incorrectly?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (R+30W)
Inflammatory rhetoric? You mean that freedom of association is inflammatory?
Well....I disagree.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (R+30W)
Inflammatory rhetoric? You mean that freedom of association is inflammatory?
Well....I disagree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:42 PM (Zu3d9)
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The standard Catholic answer is that faith is an act of grace - that is, faith in God is a gift from God.
Another answer would be an honest admission that God is infinite and
therefore unknowable in its entirety. (I could never buy that everyone
there is about God is written in the sixty-odd books of the Bible.) So
don't try.
Asking someone to keep an open mind and an open heart is always good advice, whether in matters of faith or other things.
- FireHorse
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As an old agnostic, etc, I still think (rather than feel) that faith is an essential part of being human. Raised my kids RCatholics because if someone had the gift of faith, I would have felt neglectful not to provide a base. Just like reading, math, or music, fundamentals need to be learned and respected before they can be stretched.
In one way, I feel sorry for the atheists because they do not even know what they are fighting against. Which leads to the substitute theology of government and the idolatry of government. No matter my personal inclinations, I am still a cultural Christian and think that an individual acknowledges the unknown and unknowable as an individual.
Of course, Islamists have already figured all this out and my head is no doubt in the second wave of chopping.
Another answer would be an honest admission that God is infinite and
therefore unknowable in its entirety. (I could never buy that everyone
there is about God is written in the sixty-odd books of the Bible.) So
don't try.
Asking someone to keep an open mind and an open heart is always good advice, whether in matters of faith or other things.
- FireHorse
=====
As an old agnostic, etc, I still think (rather than feel) that faith is an essential part of being human. Raised my kids RCatholics because if someone had the gift of faith, I would have felt neglectful not to provide a base. Just like reading, math, or music, fundamentals need to be learned and respected before they can be stretched.
In one way, I feel sorry for the atheists because they do not even know what they are fighting against. Which leads to the substitute theology of government and the idolatry of government. No matter my personal inclinations, I am still a cultural Christian and think that an individual acknowledges the unknown and unknowable as an individual.
Of course, Islamists have already figured all this out and my head is no doubt in the second wave of chopping.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2016 12:43 PM (MIKMs)
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90 Professor James Wellman's Main Religious Belief is White Guilt:
I remain a part of the Christian tribe and a country that does not live up to taking care of the orphan, the poor, the invisible ones. A country that has done great damage to other cultures and yet one that claims over and over again to be exceptional. So I live with the guilt of being in this country and accepting its privilege and knowing how much damage a dominate Christian culture has done to native people, gay people, black people, Iraqi's (sic), women it makes me repent.
If he really thinks that, then it's a fair question to ask, why he continues in such an awful, terrible, evil country. If I believed what Wellman claims he believes, I'd be finding someplace else to live.
The fact that he continues to live here and enjoy the benefits of this country is an indication that at some level, he doesn't believe his own bullshit.
I remain a part of the Christian tribe and a country that does not live up to taking care of the orphan, the poor, the invisible ones. A country that has done great damage to other cultures and yet one that claims over and over again to be exceptional. So I live with the guilt of being in this country and accepting its privilege and knowing how much damage a dominate Christian culture has done to native people, gay people, black people, Iraqi's (sic), women it makes me repent.
If he really thinks that, then it's a fair question to ask, why he continues in such an awful, terrible, evil country. If I believed what Wellman claims he believes, I'd be finding someplace else to live.
The fact that he continues to live here and enjoy the benefits of this country is an indication that at some level, he doesn't believe his own bullshit.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 12:44 PM (0qLQM)
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113 @CBD
Thanks for putting up that video. But, I have to wonder whether you agree with what Shapiro was saying.
SNIP!
This sounds to me very much like what you would refer to as "inflammatory" rhetoric. Do I have you pegged incorrectly?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (R+30W)
Wow, burning lots of straw men this morning, are we?
Thanks for putting up that video. But, I have to wonder whether you agree with what Shapiro was saying.
SNIP!
This sounds to me very much like what you would refer to as "inflammatory" rhetoric. Do I have you pegged incorrectly?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:36 PM (R+30W)
Wow, burning lots of straw men this morning, are we?
Posted by: Brendan at August 20, 2016 12:50 PM (gkvx9)
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Second, I never get these people who want to remain citizens of such an oppressive country. Go contribute your goodwill and energy to one of our competitors, like FRANCE, or one of our enemies, like North Korea.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper
50% are too stupid or lazy to learn another language.
The others want to see America burn.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper
50% are too stupid or lazy to learn another language.
The others want to see America burn.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 20, 2016 12:50 PM (V3IFq)
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>>I've noticed that unnatural hair-color seems to be part of the uniform...
This explains it well:
http://theothermccain.com/2016/06/02/the-deliberate-ugliness-of-feminism/
"Many have noticed this "warning sign"[aposematism] phenomenon in the characteristic
costumes of Third Wave feminists of the Social Justice Warrior (SJW)
variety --- weirdly colored hairstyles, facial piercings, tattoos, etc.
Quite often, we find this aposematic appearance accompanied by obesity and LGBT sexuality, so that a clichéd type can be discerned in
the vicinity of social justice activism. Strange appearance is a way
for disgruntled misfits to turn their maladjusted anti-social attitudes
into a visible display, so everybody who sees them knows how much they hate Mommy and Daddy."
This explains it well:
http://theothermccain.com/2016/06/02/the-deliberate-ugliness-of-feminism/
"Many have noticed this "warning sign"[aposematism] phenomenon in the characteristic
costumes of Third Wave feminists of the Social Justice Warrior (SJW)
variety --- weirdly colored hairstyles, facial piercings, tattoos, etc.
Quite often, we find this aposematic appearance accompanied by obesity and LGBT sexuality, so that a clichéd type can be discerned in
the vicinity of social justice activism. Strange appearance is a way
for disgruntled misfits to turn their maladjusted anti-social attitudes
into a visible display, so everybody who sees them knows how much they hate Mommy and Daddy."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2016 12:51 PM (NOIQH)
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Inflammatory rhetoric? You mean that freedom of association is inflammatory?
Well....I disagree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:42 PM (Zu3d9)
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When it comes to race and businesses using it to decide who to serve or employ, many on the right have conceded that freedom to the left. To many, even making the argument that a business should be free to discriminate is suspect.
I am happy to hear that I was wrong about you. My apologies.
**Disclaimer: although I believe in the freedom of association and think that businesses should be free to discriminate, I personally would not want to do business with someone who ran their business in that way.
Well....I disagree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 20, 2016 12:42 PM (Zu3d9)
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When it comes to race and businesses using it to decide who to serve or employ, many on the right have conceded that freedom to the left. To many, even making the argument that a business should be free to discriminate is suspect.
I am happy to hear that I was wrong about you. My apologies.
**Disclaimer: although I believe in the freedom of association and think that businesses should be free to discriminate, I personally would not want to do business with someone who ran their business in that way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:51 PM (R+30W)
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In one way, I feel sorry for the atheists because they do not even know what they are fighting against.
Posted by: mustbequantum
________
I feel sorry for atheists for another reason. It's funny how they think of themselves as oh so smart and wonderful - yet, I hold them in infinitely higher regard than they hold themselves as I see them as made in the image of God.
Posted by: mustbequantum
________
I feel sorry for atheists for another reason. It's funny how they think of themselves as oh so smart and wonderful - yet, I hold them in infinitely higher regard than they hold themselves as I see them as made in the image of God.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:53 PM (tWpnH)
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Of course, Islamists have already figured all this out and my head is no doubt in the second wave of chopping.
Posted by: mustbequantum
________
As to this, I first read it as Islanders, not Islamists. My mind is starting to wander in a certain direction. Summer will be ending soon.
Posted by: mustbequantum
________
As to this, I first read it as Islanders, not Islamists. My mind is starting to wander in a certain direction. Summer will be ending soon.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:56 PM (tWpnH)
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Wow, burning lots of straw men this morning, are we?
Posted by: Brendan at August 20, 2016 12:50 PM (gkvx9)
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The proprietor of this site once made an argument, a convoluted one imho, that it was ok for the federal government to ban racial segregation by private businesses based on the 13 amendment. His argument was something like segregation was a badge of slavery and since the 13th applied to everyone, citizen and government, that impingement on the freedom of association was ok.
Posted by: Brendan at August 20, 2016 12:50 PM (gkvx9)
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The proprietor of this site once made an argument, a convoluted one imho, that it was ok for the federal government to ban racial segregation by private businesses based on the 13 amendment. His argument was something like segregation was a badge of slavery and since the 13th applied to everyone, citizen and government, that impingement on the freedom of association was ok.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 20, 2016 12:59 PM (R+30W)
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As to this, I first read it as Islanders, not
Islamists. My mind is starting to wander in a certain direction. Summer
will be ending soon.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:56 PM (tWpnH)
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Forgive my non-PC comment, but I think there is a lot of discussion in academic circles about Cargo Cults. Anthropology students beware -- the great and all-knowing Government has shown us signs and given us EBT cards. Hmmmm.
Islamists. My mind is starting to wander in a certain direction. Summer
will be ending soon.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2016 12:56 PM (tWpnH)
=====
Forgive my non-PC comment, but I think there is a lot of discussion in academic circles about Cargo Cults. Anthropology students beware -- the great and all-knowing Government has shown us signs and given us EBT cards. Hmmmm.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2016 01:00 PM (MIKMs)
129
Oh, BTW, Professor Wellman blames racism for 9-11.
I experienced what Sherman Alexie talks about the "results of black and white thinking are people running planes into buildings."
I experienced what Sherman Alexie talks about the "results of black and white thinking are people running planes into buildings."
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:06 PM (jn7FC)
130
123
"Many have noticed this "warning sign"[aposematism] phenomenon in the characteristic
costumes of Third Wave feminists of the Social Justice Warrior (SJW)
variety --- weirdly colored hairstyles, facial piercings, tattoos, etc.
Quite often, we find this aposematic appearance accompanied by obesity and LGBT sexuality, so that a cliched type can be discerned in
the vicinity of social justice activism. Strange appearance is a way
for disgruntled misfits to turn their maladjusted anti-social attitudes
into a visible display, so everybody who sees them knows how much they hate Mommy and Daddy."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2016 12:51 PM (NOIQH)
There is a purple-haired Reubenesque young woman at the local pet food store who I find quite attractive, but it's probably best that I limit our interaction to buying cat food.
"Many have noticed this "warning sign"[aposematism] phenomenon in the characteristic
costumes of Third Wave feminists of the Social Justice Warrior (SJW)
variety --- weirdly colored hairstyles, facial piercings, tattoos, etc.
Quite often, we find this aposematic appearance accompanied by obesity and LGBT sexuality, so that a cliched type can be discerned in
the vicinity of social justice activism. Strange appearance is a way
for disgruntled misfits to turn their maladjusted anti-social attitudes
into a visible display, so everybody who sees them knows how much they hate Mommy and Daddy."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2016 12:51 PM (NOIQH)
There is a purple-haired Reubenesque young woman at the local pet food store who I find quite attractive, but it's probably best that I limit our interaction to buying cat food.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2016 01:10 PM (sdi6R)
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129 Oh, BTW, Professor Wellman blames racism for 9-11.
I experienced what Sherman Alexie talks about the "results of black and white thinking are people running planes into buildings."
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:06 PM (jn7FC)
Correction: this not a complaint about 'racism', it's a complaint about "black and white thinking", which I think refers to what progressives like to call "absolutism". This is a word that progressives use to describe strongly held beliefs or convictions that they don't agree with.
I experienced what Sherman Alexie talks about the "results of black and white thinking are people running planes into buildings."
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:06 PM (jn7FC)
Correction: this not a complaint about 'racism', it's a complaint about "black and white thinking", which I think refers to what progressives like to call "absolutism". This is a word that progressives use to describe strongly held beliefs or convictions that they don't agree with.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 01:16 PM (0qLQM)
132
Now that I think about it, the Great god Government with its power and signs to its supplicants IS a cargo cult.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2016 01:22 PM (MIKMs)
133
I guess I misread the quote because of the racial context of the essay.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:24 PM (jn7FC)
134
5 Is it a law that if you are a left-wing female, you have to have hideous eyewear and a bad dye-job?
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 11:01 AM (jn7FC)
It's required, to warn others to stay away.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 11:01 AM (jn7FC)
It's required, to warn others to stay away.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 20, 2016 01:38 PM (SRKgf)
135
133 I guess I misread the quote because of the racial context of the essay.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:24 PM (jn7FC)
Heh. Wellman is such a progressive tool, it might well have been about racism for all the sense it made, i.e. none.
Clueless, completely un-self-aware, spouting progressive talking points on cue, Wellman is like a left-wing version of Archie Bunker.
Posted by: V the K at August 20, 2016 01:24 PM (jn7FC)
Heh. Wellman is such a progressive tool, it might well have been about racism for all the sense it made, i.e. none.
Clueless, completely un-self-aware, spouting progressive talking points on cue, Wellman is like a left-wing version of Archie Bunker.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2016 01:40 PM (0qLQM)
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what link could you provide for the day to
day changes you noted?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 20, 2016 12:41 PM (ZnIt3)
Here: http://cesrusc.org/election/
Click on the " CHARACTERISTICS OF CANDIDATE SUPPORT" link at the top and scroll down to the ethnicity breakdowns.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 01:09 PM (5o5ek)
what link could you provide for the day to
day changes you noted?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative at August 20, 2016 12:41 PM (ZnIt3)
Here: http://cesrusc.org/election/
Click on the " CHARACTERISTICS OF CANDIDATE SUPPORT" link at the top and scroll down to the ethnicity breakdowns.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 01:09 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 20, 2016 02:56 PM (5o5ek)
137
I missed the big smack down. Is there another part to the debate?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 20, 2016 06:14 PM (rwI+c)
138
Come home, Little Benji!
Posted by: Septuagenarian benchrest shooter at August 20, 2016 06:59 PM (+ArN8)
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haven't waded more than a quarter of the way through the comments, but Shapiro is not #Never and in fact is routinely critical of those who are, his reason being that taking the ball and going home is not a credible strategy. He has been very critical of Trump and Trump apologists, but may end up pulling the lever for him.
Posted by: Dinnesdale at August 20, 2016 07:57 PM (grjjY)
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Ben forgot to say that those state governments were all elected by the people. the Jim crow laws were passed by the government by people that the citizens of those states voted in. This was not the King making these laws it was the peoples representatives
I agree with Ben that if the South would have allowed the economy to function the racial issues would have been over very quickly but the people voting in those states decided to impose the law to stop the races from mixing and they did it because they would have been in the minority otherwise or at least they would have lost a lot of power.
The real answer is to never allow the government to grow so big that they can impose these types of laws in the first place. limited government small government with enumerated powers are what they can and can't do and checks and balances within three different branches.
yes individual freedom is almost always the answer. Government is almost never the answer.
I agree with Ben that if the South would have allowed the economy to function the racial issues would have been over very quickly but the people voting in those states decided to impose the law to stop the races from mixing and they did it because they would have been in the minority otherwise or at least they would have lost a lot of power.
The real answer is to never allow the government to grow so big that they can impose these types of laws in the first place. limited government small government with enumerated powers are what they can and can't do and checks and balances within three different branches.
yes individual freedom is almost always the answer. Government is almost never the answer.
Posted by: unseen at August 21, 2016 02:28 AM (6ez2Z)
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It's just virtue signaling. They just want to live out the fantasy that they can fix the world.
Posted by: Simplemind at August 21, 2016 10:04 AM (1/dEZ)
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