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Divisive Political Season Causing Mass Unfriending on FaceBook
Well, this is obvious. I've unfollowed or even blocked people I used to consider allies, and I've gotten the same. Even the blog's roster has been hit by this incredible divisive season.
That's really a sad thing.Some friends don't let friends talk politics anymore on Facebook. Others are on "unfriending" sprees...One big downside of social media is that it's a very brief medium -- and while brevity may be the soul of wit, brevity is in an argument is just basically "You're wrong, I don't like you." Twitter is 140 characters and while I don't think there's a particular limit on the length of a FaceBook post, the medium seems to encourage brevity. When you drain out the nuance and factual presentation of an argument -- that is, you take the essay out of an essay -- what are you left with? You're left with an unsupported assertion and a disparagment of anyone disagreeing with it. I blocked a fella a few weeks back. Whatever I said on Twitter, he contradicted. He did not argue against what I said; he just said I was wrong. Just a pure contradiction, no reasoning or justification provided. When I told him I was going to block him if he kept this mechanical, thoughtless algorithm up -- if he was going to just keep saying "Nuh-uh" to anything I said -- he instructed me that I just couldn't take it that he was "refuting" me. Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word. I've mentioned Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neal Postman a lot. It's very relevant to our age. He notes Marshall MacLuhan's aphorism about TV -- "The medium is the message" -- and explores it. Every medium has a certain type of message it's good at delivering, and other types of messages it's not good at delivering. Thus, every medium has an implicit bias towards certain styles of messaging -- the medium itself has embedded within it a "message" about what types of messages are important. In the TV age, we moved away from consuming written reports and written analyses -- essays and such -- in favor of moving pictures and stories structured like a Hollywood mini-feature, stories with an Emotional Arc and of course clear Heroes and Villains. The internet age has brought us a medium with a bias towards even more gutteral, visceral messaging. Social media encourage short, punchy messages, and by punchy, I mean people are trying to punch each other with words. The medium has a bias towards stridency and absolutism, because you really can't include too much nuance and caveat in 140 characters. It also has a strong bias towards anger, because, as far as short missives go, "Go fuck yourself" has the virtue of being brief, direct, and very easy to write. Much easier to write a bunch of fuck yous to strangers than compose an article explaining your beliefs or the defects of the claims of those you disagree with. And a lazy medium thereby encourages lazy thinking. I kind of think anything important one has to say should be said in person. If you're going to break up with someone, it should be in person. If you're going to tell someone you'll never speak to him again because he supports a candidate you don't like, you should probably man up to deliver that message in person, too. If you have the guts. But that's hard. Much easier just to rip someone in a 140 character Sick Burn.
"I've seen that myself increasingly," said Scott Talan, an American University communication teacher who studies social media and politics. "They range from pretty harsh, graphically laced, attacks upon people ... to statements of 'if you support this person, you can no longer be my friend.'" Talan says the popularity and ease of use on Facebook combined with two candidates with remarkably high negative ratings among voters fuel "very visceral" debates that go to people's strong personal values and identity.
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Gahs
Posted by: freakrd at August 15, 2016 06:42 PM (BO/km)
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Half of my former FB friends are no more.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 06:42 PM (KcI5m)
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Nice in here.
Posted by: garrett at August 15, 2016 06:42 PM (c1srJ)
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First!
Posted by: A.J. R.R. Foyt at August 15, 2016 06:42 PM (3b9U4)
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I was robbed!
Posted by: A.J. R.R. Foyt at August 15, 2016 06:43 PM (3b9U4)
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>>I kind of think anything important one has to say should be said in person. If you're going to break up with someone, it should be in person.
It's not you, Ace.
...it's me.
It's not you, Ace.
...it's me.
Posted by: garrett at August 15, 2016 06:43 PM (c1srJ)
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The left started it, and like everything they do, it is fine until they start to receive that which they already do to others.
Posted by: Mark Dietzler at August 15, 2016 06:44 PM (wnprX)
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I don't unnerstan the allure of FB or Twitter.
Posted by: BignJames at August 15, 2016 06:44 PM (9RGU3)
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It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 15, 2016 06:44 PM (kKHcp)
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Well we are in struggle for the very survival of our nation, some peoples feels are going to get a sad.
Sorry but this isn't a game, civilized discourse and high minded ruminating ain't going to cut it.
Sorry but this isn't a game, civilized discourse and high minded ruminating ain't going to cut it.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:45 PM (ZKOpj)
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I started unfriending a couple of years ago then just decided to trash the whole account.
Fuck the Zuck and his Stasi.
Fuck the Zuck and his Stasi.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 06:45 PM (Pby3z)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 15, 2016 06:47 PM (89T5c)
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I meatspace unfriended loads of folks back in 2008.
Friends, family, the urban outdoorsmen living under the bridge. If they voted for the Big Ohole, I dishonorably discharged them from my life. I will not tolerate any socialists, wannbe commitards or just plain old nasty democrats in my life any longer since that election. I couldn't be happier and that is one thing I can thank Obumbles for motivating me to do.
Screw them and their Obama voting backsides with a pineapple.
I meatspace unfriended loads of folks back in 2008.
Friends, family, the urban outdoorsmen living under the bridge. If they voted for the Big Ohole, I dishonorably discharged them from my life. I will not tolerate any socialists, wannbe commitards or just plain old nasty democrats in my life any longer since that election. I couldn't be happier and that is one thing I can thank Obumbles for motivating me to do.
Screw them and their Obama voting backsides with a pineapple.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 15, 2016 06:47 PM (ej1L0)
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The bait on Farcebook is a Meme poster with so much wrong in it that one feels compelled to refute the stupid.
But the whole point of a poster like that is to make people choose sides, and the side that creates the meme is willing to overlook what is wrong with it in order to out the other side and pile hate on them.
If left unanswered, the bullshit stands unrefuted. If answered, UR a h8r!
Fuck em all.
But the whole point of a poster like that is to make people choose sides, and the side that creates the meme is willing to overlook what is wrong with it in order to out the other side and pile hate on them.
If left unanswered, the bullshit stands unrefuted. If answered, UR a h8r!
Fuck em all.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (kKHcp)
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7,
Indeed. People willing to piss on others are seemingly amazed when told to stop...
Indeed. People willing to piss on others are seemingly amazed when told to stop...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (C9pBZ)
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I don't have any friends on Facebook. I know I have some enemies though.
Posted by: freakrd at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (BO/km)
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I no longer can pretend that the Left is just "good people wanting the same things, just done differently"
I think that was true decades ago, not now.
I think most disturbing is there is a real hatred of Christianity among liberals, and I can't pretend that's anything but evil.
I think that was true decades ago, not now.
I think most disturbing is there is a real hatred of Christianity among liberals, and I can't pretend that's anything but evil.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (jlfpP)
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I wonder what we are to do when the black robed tyrants on the SCOTUS wave away the 2nd amendment?
Chilax and go grab some fish tacos?
Chilax and go grab some fish tacos?
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (ZKOpj)
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LIKE
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 06:49 PM (8ZskC)
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Good thing I am not on any social media then!
I would probably not decide to be or not be friends with someone based on political views unless they were really extreme. I have a few, not many relatives that are liberal, fortunately most of us are conservative. But I love them and would never unfriend someone because of that. Sometimes politics among friends is better left unspoken. I might think less of someone I suppose but friends and family are too rare. If it's just some acquaintance, well maybe.
I would probably not decide to be or not be friends with someone based on political views unless they were really extreme. I have a few, not many relatives that are liberal, fortunately most of us are conservative. But I love them and would never unfriend someone because of that. Sometimes politics among friends is better left unspoken. I might think less of someone I suppose but friends and family are too rare. If it's just some acquaintance, well maybe.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 15, 2016 06:49 PM (8dC42)
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The old Monty Python skit comes to mind.
"I paid for an argument, this isn't an argument it's just contradiction"
"No it isn't"
Classic. The argument clinic. Those Python geniuses anticipated the degeneration of Facebook into an argument clinic 40 years before Facebook went public ...
"No they didn't" - Random Hater
"Yes they did"
"I paid for an argument, this isn't an argument it's just contradiction"
"No it isn't"
Classic. The argument clinic. Those Python geniuses anticipated the degeneration of Facebook into an argument clinic 40 years before Facebook went public ...
"No they didn't" - Random Hater
"Yes they did"
Posted by: PrincetonAl at August 15, 2016 06:49 PM (ME7Qq)
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That's all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:49 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 06:50 PM (F1iXz)
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This FUCK McMuffin is nothing but an attempt to kill trump and the from what he is saying he mostly agrees with Trump? What a dick
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:50 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (ZKOpj)
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I could be arguing on my own time.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (JO9+V)
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The left started it, and like everything they do, it is fine until they start to receive that which they already do to others.
Sounds like a lot of threads around here this election season.
Sounds like a lot of threads around here this election season.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (Pby3z)
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I'm happy I never signed onto Facebook. And I used Twitter once, I think, back when I signed up (only my sister read my tweet). Facebook and Twitter are the bathroom walls of the internet.
Posted by: kathysaysso at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (43OZ6)
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The Eminently quotable godfather.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (ZKOpj)
All Knowledge resides in "The Godfather"
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (ZKOpj)
All Knowledge resides in "The Godfather"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:51 PM (zp+j1)
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I don't have any friends on Facebook. I know I have some enemies though.
I don't have any enemies on facebook. I do have some running it.
I don't have any enemies on facebook. I do have some running it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (T/cxb)
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Yesterday was at a family event.
My elderly father, who is a raving leftie lunatic to this day, started ranting about Trump and praising Bernie Sanders and demanding to know everyone's opinion.
As has been my practice for at least a decade, when that happens I manage to absent myself from the room ("Gotta use the bathroom!") until his rant subsides. But this time, for the first time, a close relative visiting from out of town ALSO surreptitiously left the room, and in a conspiratorial tone said to me in the garage, "I had to leave -- he brought up politics again! It's unbearable!"
I could have SWORE that she was a moonbat like everyone else in my family. But encountering her in the escape-from-politics zone was quite an eye-opener! Maybe theres another secret non-leftist in my family. It was too much of a risk to ask her bluntly, so I may never know.
My elderly father, who is a raving leftie lunatic to this day, started ranting about Trump and praising Bernie Sanders and demanding to know everyone's opinion.
As has been my practice for at least a decade, when that happens I manage to absent myself from the room ("Gotta use the bathroom!") until his rant subsides. But this time, for the first time, a close relative visiting from out of town ALSO surreptitiously left the room, and in a conspiratorial tone said to me in the garage, "I had to leave -- he brought up politics again! It's unbearable!"
I could have SWORE that she was a moonbat like everyone else in my family. But encountering her in the escape-from-politics zone was quite an eye-opener! Maybe theres another secret non-leftist in my family. It was too much of a risk to ask her bluntly, so I may never know.
Posted by: zombie at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (jBuUi)
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Evan McMullin getting a tongue bath on Special Report panel.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
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I'd do this, but I'm very worried about the echo chamber effect. I don't watch network news, and I'd rather slit my wrists with a rusty butter knife than give clicks to lefty blogs.
Sure, we think we've got the right of it here, but if you never hear the other sides argument, it's easy to convince yourself that they don't exist or are more minority's than they really are.
Sure, we think we've got the right of it here, but if you never hear the other sides argument, it's easy to convince yourself that they don't exist or are more minority's than they really are.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (aJcfp)
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Facebook. What a wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (ZKOpj)
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I could have SWORE that she was a moonbat like everyone else in my family. But encountering her in the escape-from-politics zone was quite an eye-opener! Maybe theres another secret non-leftist in my family. It was too much of a risk to ask her bluntly, so I may never know.
You didn't use the secret handshake then?
You didn't use the secret handshake then?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (8ZskC)
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why would you be friends with someone that puts a 5000/yr tax on you, lies about it being a tax, and calls you a racist when you question them?
why would you be friends with someone that demands that illegal invaders be treated better than you are, that you pay for that via higher taxes, and calls you a racist when you question that?
why would you be friends with someone that will not lift a finger for you if you get carted off to the camps?
these people chose to indulge their inner psycho; they chose something they damn well know is wrong and based on lies over your friendship.
punt them out of your life.
you are going to need all your emotional self control to deal with liberals in your family and that you love.
you cant waste any of that on so-called friends that value a false morality over you
why would you be friends with someone that demands that illegal invaders be treated better than you are, that you pay for that via higher taxes, and calls you a racist when you question that?
why would you be friends with someone that will not lift a finger for you if you get carted off to the camps?
these people chose to indulge their inner psycho; they chose something they damn well know is wrong and based on lies over your friendship.
punt them out of your life.
you are going to need all your emotional self control to deal with liberals in your family and that you love.
you cant waste any of that on so-called friends that value a false morality over you
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (swEzU)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (uPt3V)
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1. It's not You, it's Them.
2. This is what Fascism looks like. Fascism-with-benefits has landed in the USA and the Americans are lapping it up.
People are Shits, today.
Me? I'm just a squirrel...trying to get a nut.
1. It's not You, it's Them.
2. This is what Fascism looks like. Fascism-with-benefits has landed in the USA and the Americans are lapping it up.
People are Shits, today.
Me? I'm just a squirrel...trying to get a nut.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (hS3+Z)
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I saw Sick Burn open for The Cramps at CBGB back when CBGB still existed.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (27KAF)
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Maybe theres another secret non-leftist in my family. It was too much of a risk to ask her bluntly, so I may never know.
Posted by: zombie at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM
Maybe she was just a Hillary fan who didn't like the Bernie love?
Maybe theres another secret non-leftist in my family. It was too much of a risk to ask her bluntly, so I may never know.
Posted by: zombie at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM
Maybe she was just a Hillary fan who didn't like the Bernie love?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (IqV8l)
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I just know when I look at my wife's Facebook, the conservative ones are FAR more civil than the liberal ones.
A conservative post would be like highlighting an article about something like Trump's charitable giving to a vet's group.
A liberal "friend" would have a post comparing Trump to Adolph Hitler.
I'm not saying its always like that, but that's definitely the tone and that how liberals usually roll.
A conservative post would be like highlighting an article about something like Trump's charitable giving to a vet's group.
A liberal "friend" would have a post comparing Trump to Adolph Hitler.
I'm not saying its always like that, but that's definitely the tone and that how liberals usually roll.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (jlfpP)
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Evan McMullin getting a tongue bath on Special Report panel.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Did you hear him? His for the Wall, For keeping Gitmo open, and yet he is helping The FAB and trying to hurt Trump?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Did you hear him? His for the Wall, For keeping Gitmo open, and yet he is helping The FAB and trying to hurt Trump?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (zp+j1)
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If you don't want to unfriend someone, but don't want to see what they post, you can just 'unfollow' them.
Now that won't keep them from seeing/commenting on anything you post but it cuts down on crap you don't want to see.
Now that won't keep them from seeing/commenting on anything you post but it cuts down on crap you don't want to see.
Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2016 06:55 PM (Enq6K)
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I have a Facebook account.
I think...
I think...
Posted by: jbspry at August 15, 2016 06:55 PM (4kpbt)
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It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 15, 2016 06:44 PM (kKHcp)
On the bright side, it makes it much easier to figure out who your enemies are.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 15, 2016 06:44 PM (kKHcp)
On the bright side, it makes it much easier to figure out who your enemies are.
Posted by: Country Boy at August 15, 2016 06:55 PM (heN73)
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Pat Healy: My real passion is my hobby.
Mary: Really, what's that?
Pat Healy: I work with retards.
Mary: Isn't that a little, uhm, politically incorrect?
Pat Healy: Well, heh, to hell with that... no one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right?
Mary: Really, what's that?
Pat Healy: I work with retards.
Mary: Isn't that a little, uhm, politically incorrect?
Pat Healy: Well, heh, to hell with that... no one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right?
Posted by: Mortimer at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (zu88C)
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Did you hear him? His for the Wall, For keeping Gitmo open, and yet he is helping The FAB and trying to hurt Trump?
Just trying to steal as many voters as possible.
Protecting the status quo is his top priority.
Did you hear him? His for the Wall, For keeping Gitmo open, and yet he is helping The FAB and trying to hurt Trump?
Just trying to steal as many voters as possible.
Protecting the status quo is his top priority.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (Pby3z)
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On the bright side, it makes it much easier to figure out who your enemies are.
Posted by: Country Boy at August 15, 2016 06:55 PM (heN73)
I know who my enemies are. THAT is not one of my problems
Posted by: Country Boy at August 15, 2016 06:55 PM (heN73)
I know who my enemies are. THAT is not one of my problems
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (zp+j1)
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Inyerfacebook is more like it.
All the venom with no responsibility.
All the venom with no responsibility.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (ocw+t)
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Just trying to steal as many voters as possible.
Protecting the status quo is his top priority.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (Pby3z)
Yup.
Protecting the status quo is his top priority.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (Pby3z)
Yup.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:57 PM (zp+j1)
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Glad I could serve as the foundation for a post.
Granted all I was saying was the national polls mean nothing with Trump losing on every battle ground state.
Which is moot since his national numbers collapsed too.
Granted all I was saying was the national polls mean nothing with Trump losing on every battle ground state.
Which is moot since his national numbers collapsed too.
Posted by: Tsrblke at August 15, 2016 06:57 PM (dzmBR)
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Maybe she was just a Hillary fan who didn't like the Bernie love?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
Maybe. But I doubt it. I think she just hates politics in general, and doesn't want to hear about it just on principle.
When I returned to the room, another relative shut my dad up by saying, "There's no point in getting all worked up about it, because everyone here agrees with you, so there's nothing to say.
He grumpily subsided, but kept murmuring "Trump! Grrr....." for at last three more minutes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
Maybe. But I doubt it. I think she just hates politics in general, and doesn't want to hear about it just on principle.
When I returned to the room, another relative shut my dad up by saying, "There's no point in getting all worked up about it, because everyone here agrees with you, so there's nothing to say.
He grumpily subsided, but kept murmuring "Trump! Grrr....." for at last three more minutes.
Posted by: zombie at August 15, 2016 06:57 PM (jBuUi)
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I left for a while, but it's content like this that keeps me coming back.
"Dude, sitting in front of a computer is how I activate my sperm count."
Glad to see Ace taking matters into his own hands and letting cooler heads prevail.
"Dude, sitting in front of a computer is how I activate my sperm count."
Glad to see Ace taking matters into his own hands and letting cooler heads prevail.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at August 15, 2016 06:57 PM (QvJot)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (F1iXz)
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Ace, people are becoming very very tribal, thanks to obama. Very divisive. You're either In or you're Out.
Sheriff Clark mentioned this, too. He said what's happening in Milwaukee is because of a societal breakdown due to failed leftist policies (which are designed to fail) and people have resorted to tribalism and are acting out.
Ace, people are becoming very very tribal, thanks to obama. Very divisive. You're either In or you're Out.
Sheriff Clark mentioned this, too. He said what's happening in Milwaukee is because of a societal breakdown due to failed leftist policies (which are designed to fail) and people have resorted to tribalism and are acting out.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (hS3+Z)
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>>>Pat Healy: Well, heh, to hell with that... no one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right?
Posted by: Mortimer at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (zu88C)<<<
Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I've got going.
Posted by: Mortimer at August 15, 2016 06:56 PM (zu88C)<<<
Those goofy bastards are about the best thing I've got going.
Posted by: Pat Healy at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (H9MG5)
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If you don't want to unfriend someone, but don't want to see what they post, you can just 'unfollow' them.
Now that won't keep them from seeing/commenting on anything you post but it cuts down on crap you don't want to see.
Posted by: Tami
Here's the thing, I like these assholes to know people are sick of their shit, so to me, if someone is really out of line, its a nice way to let them know.
Now that won't keep them from seeing/commenting on anything you post but it cuts down on crap you don't want to see.
Posted by: Tami
Here's the thing, I like these assholes to know people are sick of their shit, so to me, if someone is really out of line, its a nice way to let them know.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (jlfpP)
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37 why would you be friends with someone that puts a 5000/yr tax on you, lies about it being a tax, and calls you a racist when you question them?
why would you be friends with someone that demands that illegal invaders be treated better than you are, that you pay for that via higher taxes, and calls you a racist when you question that?
why would you be friends with someone that will not lift a finger for you if you get carted off to the camps?
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Because people have different opinions, and even folks with different opinions can be good people?
Seriously, the hyperbole that now dominates political debate on both sides is really troubling. Seriously, "carted off to the camps?" That's absurd, and makes actual political discourse difficult.
This used to be the sort of stuff that came mainly from liberals - "I can't be friends with conservatives, they're all bigots" - but its becoming increasingly common on this side of the aisle.
Jefferson and Adams were best friends, even though each was sure the other held views (and was in a position to put those views into action) that would do serious damage to the young nation.
why would you be friends with someone that demands that illegal invaders be treated better than you are, that you pay for that via higher taxes, and calls you a racist when you question that?
why would you be friends with someone that will not lift a finger for you if you get carted off to the camps?
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Because people have different opinions, and even folks with different opinions can be good people?
Seriously, the hyperbole that now dominates political debate on both sides is really troubling. Seriously, "carted off to the camps?" That's absurd, and makes actual political discourse difficult.
This used to be the sort of stuff that came mainly from liberals - "I can't be friends with conservatives, they're all bigots" - but its becoming increasingly common on this side of the aisle.
Jefferson and Adams were best friends, even though each was sure the other held views (and was in a position to put those views into action) that would do serious damage to the young nation.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (mFkVC)
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Did you hear him? His for the Wall, For keeping Gitmo open, and yet he is helping The FAB and trying to hurt Trump?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (zp+j1)
This is just another "fool the rubes" moment from your GOPe.
Like McCain's "just build the dang fence".
A lie.
But, one believed by a certain gullible group among us.
Can you guess which one?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:54 PM (zp+j1)
This is just another "fool the rubes" moment from your GOPe.
Like McCain's "just build the dang fence".
A lie.
But, one believed by a certain gullible group among us.
Can you guess which one?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (0cMkb)
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Far too many people suffer a brevity of fuse length.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (e6C9D)
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When is FOX inviting that Leftist women on who is running?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (zp+j1)
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>>>Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
That sentence begs for a link to this clip.
https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y
That sentence begs for a link to this clip.
https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (R+30W)
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"It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another."
It isnt happenstance. Americans have been fractured by design, by people we knew were enemies, and we knew this a hundred years ago.
we as a people simply refused to deal with our enemies in any measure of efficiency. Instead we chose to chose to deal with the agency of that ideology as if it was spawned by foreigners solely, and that only foreigners could transmit it's hate.
The most dangerous Reds were always in the salons of the wealthy, not in the holds of the ships carrying socialist-infected immigrants.
there is only one way of dealing with leftism
It isnt happenstance. Americans have been fractured by design, by people we knew were enemies, and we knew this a hundred years ago.
we as a people simply refused to deal with our enemies in any measure of efficiency. Instead we chose to chose to deal with the agency of that ideology as if it was spawned by foreigners solely, and that only foreigners could transmit it's hate.
The most dangerous Reds were always in the salons of the wealthy, not in the holds of the ships carrying socialist-infected immigrants.
there is only one way of dealing with leftism
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (swEzU)
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Evan : the decision is settled on same sex marriage.
Evan : I will appoint judges to overturn Roe.
Evan : the decision is settled on same sex marriage.
Evan : I will appoint judges to overturn Roe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (IqV8l)
66
People used to hide their diaries and got murderous angry if you read it.
Now they post their bowel-spew on the internet and get murderous angry if you don't read it.
Get your pictures of kids/grandkids in email or in Dropbox.
Unfriend. Unplug. UnFacebook.
Now they post their bowel-spew on the internet and get murderous angry if you don't read it.
Get your pictures of kids/grandkids in email or in Dropbox.
Unfriend. Unplug. UnFacebook.
Posted by: Mortimer at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (zu88C)
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62
When is FOX inviting that Leftist women on who is running?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (zp+j1)
Jill something.
When is FOX inviting that Leftist women on who is running?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (zp+j1)
Jill something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (F1iXz)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (swEzU)
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When is FOX inviting that Leftist women on who is running?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (zp+j1)
Jill something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (F1iXz)
Stein I think...probably one of my Tribe's
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 06:59 PM (zp+j1)
Jill something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (F1iXz)
Stein I think...probably one of my Tribe's
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (zp+j1)
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13
I meatspace unfriended loads of folks back in 2008.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 15, 2016 06:47 PM (ej1L0)
2008 irreparably damaged my friendships with several people, but it wasn't until 2012 that I gave them the heave-ho.
I don't need or want people like that in my life. Those are the sort of "friends" who will denounce you to the authorities in exchange for an increase in their chocolate ration. That could become a real problem in the future given the path the country is on.
I meatspace unfriended loads of folks back in 2008.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 15, 2016 06:47 PM (ej1L0)
2008 irreparably damaged my friendships with several people, but it wasn't until 2012 that I gave them the heave-ho.
I don't need or want people like that in my life. Those are the sort of "friends" who will denounce you to the authorities in exchange for an increase in their chocolate ration. That could become a real problem in the future given the path the country is on.
Posted by: rickl at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (sdi6R)
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I never developed any respect for McLuhan. He was all the rage among 'insightful' hip folks back in the late 60's-early 70's
"The medium is the message" kinda sputtered out as a mantra, however true it might be. Even McLuhan transitioned to "The Medium is the Massage"
I never developed any respect for McLuhan. He was all the rage among 'insightful' hip folks back in the late 60's-early 70's
"The medium is the message" kinda sputtered out as a mantra, however true it might be. Even McLuhan transitioned to "The Medium is the Massage"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (jO7js)
Posted by: Argument Clinic at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (xhqXI)
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We got this one kid, Mongo... He's got a forehead like a drive-in movie theatre, but he's a good ship. So we don't bust his chops too much. So, one day Mongo gets out of his cage...
Posted by: Mortimer at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (zu88C)
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1. FaceTwat, Twattiter etc. are run by commie progtard bags of used douche fluid and should never be patronized, clicked etc. save like Ace's case where he uses it o advertise and induce rage-stroke in said fucktards.
2. If you 'break up' with someone over political candidates you both are short bus window lickers for failing to realize that if voting made any difference in the long run it wouldn't be allowed' Ds and Rs are two sides of the same coin as proven by GOPes actions for a decade or more; and true friendship is based on respect,tolerance and even love. If you break up over this bullshit you didn't have a friendship, you were acquaintances...
3. Fuck Social Media!
1. FaceTwat, Twattiter etc. are run by commie progtard bags of used douche fluid and should never be patronized, clicked etc. save like Ace's case where he uses it o advertise and induce rage-stroke in said fucktards.
2. If you 'break up' with someone over political candidates you both are short bus window lickers for failing to realize that if voting made any difference in the long run it wouldn't be allowed' Ds and Rs are two sides of the same coin as proven by GOPes actions for a decade or more; and true friendship is based on respect,tolerance and even love. If you break up over this bullshit you didn't have a friendship, you were acquaintances...
3. Fuck Social Media!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (Za1Oq)
75
Trump looks like he is on Valium in the speech clip
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (F1iXz)
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"carted off to the camps?" That's absurd,
_________
Ask Kim Davis about that.
I'm not even much of a social conservative, but boy, a few months after a gay marriage decision and someone doesn't comply, and off to jail they go.
Meanwhile, look how the powers that be treat Hillary and her real law breaking.
_________
Ask Kim Davis about that.
I'm not even much of a social conservative, but boy, a few months after a gay marriage decision and someone doesn't comply, and off to jail they go.
Meanwhile, look how the powers that be treat Hillary and her real law breaking.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 07:03 PM (jlfpP)
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What's worse: the banning and unfriending for expressing themselves or the self-censorship and biting your tongue?
Honestly want to know.
Honestly want to know.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2016 07:03 PM (0wojp)
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Stein I think...probably one of my Tribe's
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (zp+j1)
Yep, and went to Harvard!
http://tinyurl.com/znw6xa4
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (zp+j1)
Yep, and went to Harvard!
http://tinyurl.com/znw6xa4
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:03 PM (F1iXz)
79
Fanaticism has taken over too many people's, "Thinking."
Posted by: gutteral, visceral messager at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (ld027)
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i like how FB skews my feed to be mostly NeverTrump poasts, despite those people being a minority of my F-list...
no bias there, of course.
no bias there, of course.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (sUQ21)
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"All Knowledge resides in "The Godfather"
Bonasera: I went to the FBI, like a good American. This Clinton was investigated, but this Comey said no intent, and suspended the investigation. Suspended investigation! She went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool, and that bitch, she smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Trump."
Bonasera: I went to the FBI, like a good American. This Clinton was investigated, but this Comey said no intent, and suspended the investigation. Suspended investigation! She went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool, and that bitch, she smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Trump."
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (r1fLd)
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see Venezuela for absurd
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (swEzU)
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Yes, bad things are happening in a country in a very different situation from our own. This is kinda like saying electing Trump will turn American into Hitler's Germany. It shuts down debate.
And the left is every bit as guilty (well, I'd say more guilty) of this as the right. But that gap seems to be closing.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:01 PM (swEzU)
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Yes, bad things are happening in a country in a very different situation from our own. This is kinda like saying electing Trump will turn American into Hitler's Germany. It shuts down debate.
And the left is every bit as guilty (well, I'd say more guilty) of this as the right. But that gap seems to be closing.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (mFkVC)
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"All Knowledge resides in "The Godfather"
Bonasera: I went to the FBI, like a good American. This Clinton was investigated, but this Comey said no intent, and suspended the investigation. Suspended investigation! She went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool, and that bitch, she smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Trump."
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (r1fLd)
Outstanding!
Bonasera: I went to the FBI, like a good American. This Clinton was investigated, but this Comey said no intent, and suspended the investigation. Suspended investigation! She went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool, and that bitch, she smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Trump."
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2016 07:04 PM (r1fLd)
Outstanding!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:05 PM (zp+j1)
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47 Pat Healy: My real passion is my hobby.
Mary: Really, what's that?
Pat Healy: I work with retards.
Mary: Isn't that a little, uhm, politically incorrect?
Pat Healy: Well, heh, to hell with that... no one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right?
Posted by: Mortimer
There's a new reality show about people with Downs Syndrome, as well as a pre-existing reality show about the romantic lives of people with dwarfism. (I don't watch TV, so I don't know the shows' names, but those of you with cable will surely know of them.)
Anyway, was visiting the house of a friend who a classic big-time Bay Area progressive moonbatty type, and at one point she yelled to her husband in the other room, "Anything on TV?" and he replied, "No, just the midgets and the retards." Instead of being offended, she simply replied, "What about Doctor Blake, that Australian one?" "Yeah, we can watch that."
In the privacy of their own homes, even the most PC reveal their inner un-PC selves.
Mary: Really, what's that?
Pat Healy: I work with retards.
Mary: Isn't that a little, uhm, politically incorrect?
Pat Healy: Well, heh, to hell with that... no one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right?
Posted by: Mortimer
There's a new reality show about people with Downs Syndrome, as well as a pre-existing reality show about the romantic lives of people with dwarfism. (I don't watch TV, so I don't know the shows' names, but those of you with cable will surely know of them.)
Anyway, was visiting the house of a friend who a classic big-time Bay Area progressive moonbatty type, and at one point she yelled to her husband in the other room, "Anything on TV?" and he replied, "No, just the midgets and the retards." Instead of being offended, she simply replied, "What about Doctor Blake, that Australian one?" "Yeah, we can watch that."
In the privacy of their own homes, even the most PC reveal their inner un-PC selves.
Posted by: zombie at August 15, 2016 07:05 PM (jBuUi)
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Live by the Facebook, die by the Facebook
Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2016 07:05 PM (bksJQ)
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Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
---
I recently found my favorite non-refutation.
I really like (I'm being sarcastic here) "M'kay" as a very adult way to discuss things.
Someone hit me with "I'll just keep my reproductive rights M'kay!"
Yeah. I love it when the debate over the life of the unborn can be handled like that.
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I recently found my favorite non-refutation.
I really like (I'm being sarcastic here) "M'kay" as a very adult way to discuss things.
Someone hit me with "I'll just keep my reproductive rights M'kay!"
Yeah. I love it when the debate over the life of the unborn can be handled like that.
Posted by: RKae at August 15, 2016 07:06 PM (CYNno)
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The Never Trumpers need a special kind of hell. Regular hell just wont do for people who are that reality-challenged.
Posted by: DJT dick punched my baby at August 15, 2016 07:06 PM (AV4JD)
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And yes, violation of 18 US code 2071 does disqualify Hillary from being President.
The FBI will be right on that - any second now - here they come - like the 7th Cavalry sounding charge - followed by the full moral outrage of the Department of Justice riding in like enraged Valkyries. Any second now.
The FBI will be right on that - any second now - here they come - like the 7th Cavalry sounding charge - followed by the full moral outrage of the Department of Justice riding in like enraged Valkyries. Any second now.
Posted by: An Observation at August 15, 2016 07:06 PM (fKPnc)
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In the privacy of their own homes, even the most PC reveal their inner un-PC selves.
Because they don't really believe in any of their leftist bullshit.
In the privacy of their own homes, even the most PC reveal their inner un-PC selves.
Because they don't really believe in any of their leftist bullshit.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:06 PM (hS3+Z)
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85 Live by the Facebook, die by the Facebook
Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2016 07:05 PM (bksJQ)
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Avoid the Facebook.
By the way, when I say "friends," I mean real, actual meatspace friends, not the odd, often substanceless relationships that have that name on facebook.
Posted by: Skip at August 15, 2016 07:05 PM (bksJQ)
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Avoid the Facebook.
By the way, when I say "friends," I mean real, actual meatspace friends, not the odd, often substanceless relationships that have that name on facebook.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:06 PM (mFkVC)
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I haven't unfriended anyone, but there have been quite a few that I've "unfollowed" which means we remain friends (and I can look at their pages after election season when everyone's shit has calmed down) but they no longer show up on my feed.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (+eR2D)
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Read YouTube comments if you need to see how dumb it can get.
Posted by: Yo! at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (uPt3V)
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Friend or unfriend.
There is no "unfollow".
If you say you don't want to see posts from a person on FB, FB will find a way to make sure you keep seeing them.
There is no "unfollow".
If you say you don't want to see posts from a person on FB, FB will find a way to make sure you keep seeing them.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (w7KSn)
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Yes, bad things are happening in a country in a very different situation from our own.
It can't happen here.
https://youtu.be/W-NIIjjKyVM
Yes, bad things are happening in a country in a very different situation from our own.
It can't happen here.
https://youtu.be/W-NIIjjKyVM
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (IqV8l)
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I could write a couple hundred page thesis on how the assorted free-trade agreements have driven a spear into the heart of the American economy. Reciting Bureau of labor statistics numbers pertaining to factory loss (60, 000) and manufacturing job loss (5, 000, 000) and how the nose in the air purists think the American worker 'just can't compete'. Totally ignoring, like global warming, the millions of variables that make our economy and climate the way they are.
But that takes time, and life is short. Instead, here's a pineapple up your ass and Donald Trump, next President of the United States.
But that takes time, and life is short. Instead, here's a pineapple up your ass and Donald Trump, next President of the United States.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (ZnIt3)
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Social media allows people to safely say things that, if spoken in person, would get them beaten to a pulp for being an obnoxious asstard.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (vyqqu)
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I really like (I'm being sarcastic here) "M'kay" as a very adult way to discuss things.
Someone hit me with "I'll just keep my reproductive rights M'kay!"
Yeah. I love it when the debate over the life of the unborn can be handled like that.
Posted by: RKae
Are you trying to start something, m'kay?
Because we can step outside right now, m'kay.
Someone hit me with "I'll just keep my reproductive rights M'kay!"
Yeah. I love it when the debate over the life of the unborn can be handled like that.
Posted by: RKae
Are you trying to start something, m'kay?
Because we can step outside right now, m'kay.
Posted by: Mr. Mackey at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (xhqXI)
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Here's the thing, I like these assholes to know
people are sick of their shit, so to me, if someone is really out of
line, its a nice way to let them know.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (jlfpP)
That's fine and I get it. I was just saying if you're tired of seeing it, you can 'unfollow' without unfriending.
people are sick of their shit, so to me, if someone is really out of
line, its a nice way to let them know.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:58 PM (jlfpP)
That's fine and I get it. I was just saying if you're tired of seeing it, you can 'unfollow' without unfriending.
Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (LuZz8)
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The skinhead McMuffin given wings by Bret briar Baeier.....is the far right Mormons....... handing the nomination to Clinton rather than get behind the guy that promises to fight .......for their right to have however many wives from the pulpit.....Mitt Romney and Ted Cruz wing of the I Always Lose Party....
Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at August 15, 2016 07:09 PM (kHv/o)
101
Would you say I have a plethora of boring scenes?
Posted by: Don 'Guapo' Corleone at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (c1srJ)
102
Zuckerberg's a pimp. He never could've outfought Trump. But I didn't know until this day that it was Dorsey* all along.
*Twitter CEO
*Twitter CEO
Posted by: Don Corleone at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (H9MG5)
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93
Friend or unfriend.
There is no "unfollow".
If you say you don't want to see posts from a person on FB, FB will find a way to make sure you keep seeing them.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (w7KSn)
There is an 'unfollow' and I've used it.
Go to a friend's page....up at the top it will say 'Following' with a check mark by it. Click it and you are no longer following anything they post.
Friend or unfriend.
There is no "unfollow".
If you say you don't want to see posts from a person on FB, FB will find a way to make sure you keep seeing them.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:07 PM (w7KSn)
There is an 'unfollow' and I've used it.
Go to a friend's page....up at the top it will say 'Following' with a check mark by it. Click it and you are no longer following anything they post.
Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (Enq6K)
104
*squirt*
Posted by: Anthony Weiner's Ultra-brief Polarizing Twitter Message at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (WsceC)
105
I haven't unfriended anyone, but there have been quite a few that I've
"unfollowed" which means we remain friends (and I can look at their
pages after election season when everyone's shit has calmed down) but
they no longer show up on my feed.
My wife has a screaming libby friend that she friended when the wife first got into FB 2 years ago. The friend even warned her that she posted a lot of political stuff. After 2 days the wife unfollowed her. About every 30 minutes she was posting of her love for one of the lefties and how bad all those who didn't like the lastest meme were.
"unfollowed" which means we remain friends (and I can look at their
pages after election season when everyone's shit has calmed down) but
they no longer show up on my feed.
My wife has a screaming libby friend that she friended when the wife first got into FB 2 years ago. The friend even warned her that she posted a lot of political stuff. After 2 days the wife unfollowed her. About every 30 minutes she was posting of her love for one of the lefties and how bad all those who didn't like the lastest meme were.
Posted by: Bruce at August 15, 2016 07:11 PM (8ikIW)
106
Nuh-uh
Posted by: SomeoneHasToSayIt at August 15, 2016 07:11 PM (CRQ5V)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:11 PM (F1iXz)
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"This is kinda like saying electing Trump will turn American into Hitler's Germany"
Maritime kindly pointed out that people have been carted off to jail already.
If that is not enough, let me point out that LaVoy Finicum was shot in the back, with his hands in the air, while he was on the way to meet with an LE representative. A shooting that FBI agents involved are now under investigation for lying and tampering with evidence.
Check out normalcy bias or the ostrich effect. People dont want to face up to the ugly parts of life when that interrupts the perception of a safe life.
Maritime kindly pointed out that people have been carted off to jail already.
If that is not enough, let me point out that LaVoy Finicum was shot in the back, with his hands in the air, while he was on the way to meet with an LE representative. A shooting that FBI agents involved are now under investigation for lying and tampering with evidence.
Check out normalcy bias or the ostrich effect. People dont want to face up to the ugly parts of life when that interrupts the perception of a safe life.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:11 PM (swEzU)
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96
Social media allows people to safely say things that, if spoken in
person, would get them beaten to a pulp for being an obnoxious asstard.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (vyqqu)
Nuh-uh.
Social media allows people to safely say things that, if spoken in
person, would get them beaten to a pulp for being an obnoxious asstard.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 15, 2016 07:08 PM (vyqqu)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: Dork at August 15, 2016 07:12 PM (8iiMU)
110
Read YouTube comments if you need to see how dumb it can get.
Read some at Politico on the story Ace did the disappeared post on...they're just as bad.
Read some at Politico on the story Ace did the disappeared post on...they're just as bad.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 07:12 PM (Pby3z)
111
"unfriending" would imply one has friends to begin with.
Posted by: Weasel at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (Sfs6o)
112
"Click it and you are no longer following anything they post."
Does not work with me.
I unfollow people and then FB finds a way to make sure that I see what said person posts as comments on other people's walls, if not what I see directly on their wall.
I can't believe that this is happenstance.
Does not work with me.
I unfollow people and then FB finds a way to make sure that I see what said person posts as comments on other people's walls, if not what I see directly on their wall.
I can't believe that this is happenstance.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (w7KSn)
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Don't Facebook or Twitter. Not interested after watching both.
I have many acquaintances but few friends,most of whom interact through mutual respect and affection.
You cannot get that except through personal contact which FB or Twitter doesn't afford.
Don't Facebook or Twitter. Not interested after watching both.
I have many acquaintances but few friends,most of whom interact through mutual respect and affection.
You cannot get that except through personal contact which FB or Twitter doesn't afford.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (X35Yt)
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Check out normalcy bias or the ostrich effect. People dont want to face up to the ugly parts of life when that interrupts the perception of a safe life.
Posted by: Grad School Fool
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: Grad School Fool
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: #NeverTrump at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (xhqXI)
115
I don't do any social media so this isn't really a problem for me. I suppose I should consider myself fortunate in this very narrow regard.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (0mRoj)
116
Does not work with me.
I unfollow people and then FB finds a way to make sure that I see
what said person posts as comments on other people's walls, if not what I
see directly on their wall.
I can't believe that this is happenstance.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (w7KSn)
I've unfollowed a few people. I NEVER see their posts.
I unfollow people and then FB finds a way to make sure that I see
what said person posts as comments on other people's walls, if not what I
see directly on their wall.
I can't believe that this is happenstance.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (w7KSn)
I've unfollowed a few people. I NEVER see their posts.
Posted by: Tami at August 15, 2016 07:13 PM (Enq6K)
117
...people are trying to punch each other with words
Oh! My nuts!
Okay. Who's the smart-ass tossing around the ampersands?
& & &
Oh! My nuts!
Okay. Who's the smart-ass tossing around the ampersands?
& & &
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:14 PM (LdMbv)
118
@9: "It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another."
Unfortunate? Try deliberate.
Unfortunate? Try deliberate.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:14 PM (rznWS)
119
"Nuh-uh" explains nothing. But hating someone and cutting off all ties with a person based on political preference is appropriate in this election.
I mean, if you want to vote for the antichrist and help to usher in the End of Days, that's your business - but I'll want to be as far away from it as possible. That includes creating distance between me and anyone who votes for him or her.
I mean, if you want to vote for the antichrist and help to usher in the End of Days, that's your business - but I'll want to be as far away from it as possible. That includes creating distance between me and anyone who votes for him or her.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 15, 2016 07:14 PM (lhvb+)
Posted by: Ian Galt at August 15, 2016 07:15 PM (8iiMU)
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I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good reasons to vote for Hillary?"
Posted by: Bruce at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (8ikIW)
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Seriously, the hyperbole that now dominates political debate on both sides is really troubling.
This, of course, from the calm, rational observer who shrieks his pointy little head off about Trump being in Putin's pocket.
This, of course, from the calm, rational observer who shrieks his pointy little head off about Trump being in Putin's pocket.
Posted by: hyperbole for me, but not for thee at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (ivcX+)
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I do think we are at a breaking point and things could go in a very ugly direction very quickly.
The politics are much different now.
Do you ever imagine every school in America getting threatened to have their funding pulled if they didn't allow men in women's bathrooms?
The politics are much different now.
Do you ever imagine every school in America getting threatened to have their funding pulled if they didn't allow men in women's bathrooms?
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (jlfpP)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (swEzU)
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@12: "Every douchebag liberal on Fakebook can go fuck themselves."
It's our right as a person to fuck ourselves! Masturbation is natural!
It's our right as a person to fuck ourselves! Masturbation is natural!
Posted by: Every douchebag liberal on Facebook at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (rznWS)
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Things are gonna be a lot different in 2017. A lot different. Especially if Trump loses.
The GOP will be dead. A lot of phony conservatives in the media will be unemployed.
Things are gonna be a lot different in 2017. A lot different. Especially if Trump loses.
The GOP will be dead. A lot of phony conservatives in the media will be unemployed.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (hS3+Z)
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After years of getting ripped off by the phone companies, the public gets free calling, and then doesn't use it. Nothing says I care like a post on facebook that my friends can like. Talk? In person? That's so last century.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (E6b/B)
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Divide and Conquer.
Posted by: gutteral, visceral messager at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (ld027)
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I am only on FB to stay in touch with family.
The first people that I see that post these stupid graphics that equate Trump with Hitler or the KKK, bang, gone, goodbye. Unfriended. And I WILL tell them so to their face if I ever see them and they ask about it.
One guy this happened to, I told him why I did it, and I asked him why he was being such a miserable troll, and how can he stand to do it for so many hours, day and night. Simple, he said. They pay me.
He is a paid troll. Paid to prop up HRC and any other Dem politician on social media.
He lives in a nice house in Atlanta, so I guess he does OK with it.
The first people that I see that post these stupid graphics that equate Trump with Hitler or the KKK, bang, gone, goodbye. Unfriended. And I WILL tell them so to their face if I ever see them and they ask about it.
One guy this happened to, I told him why I did it, and I asked him why he was being such a miserable troll, and how can he stand to do it for so many hours, day and night. Simple, he said. They pay me.
He is a paid troll. Paid to prop up HRC and any other Dem politician on social media.
He lives in a nice house in Atlanta, so I guess he does OK with it.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:17 PM (w7KSn)
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I've downgraded a LOT of people to "Please don't show me anything they post" without booting them.
The only person I unfriended kept showing up and posting crap in comments anytime I'd say pretty much anything anywhere he 'was', electronicalwocky wise, so that was the only solution.
He thought he was a real laff riot.
He wasn't.
The only person I unfriended kept showing up and posting crap in comments anytime I'd say pretty much anything anywhere he 'was', electronicalwocky wise, so that was the only solution.
He thought he was a real laff riot.
He wasn't.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 15, 2016 07:17 PM (nd1zx)
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121
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
Posted by: Bruce at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (8ikIW)
Hmmmm.....1) Wimmenz!2) She promises free shit.3) Trump is mean.4) Trump punches babies in the dick.5) That Bill is soo dreamy!
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
Posted by: Bruce at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (8ikIW)
Hmmmm.....1) Wimmenz!2) She promises free shit.3) Trump is mean.4) Trump punches babies in the dick.5) That Bill is soo dreamy!
Posted by: Ian Galt at August 15, 2016 07:17 PM (8iiMU)
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I think a lot of these people were never friends to begin with. They are acquaintances, at best. I may thoroughly enjoy a person when we spend a limited amount of time together enjoying a common interest. Facebook's business model encourages us to announce our acquaintanceship publicly, with now-hilarious consequences.
I think Ace is spot on about the medium being the message. Social Media as implemented seems amazingly divisive to me. A house divided, and all that...Plus, I don't like feeling used, and boy does Facebook use us. We're 1/2 cash cow, 1/2 lab rat, and 1/2 hated "other" to them.
I think Ace is spot on about the medium being the message. Social Media as implemented seems amazingly divisive to me. A house divided, and all that...Plus, I don't like feeling used, and boy does Facebook use us. We're 1/2 cash cow, 1/2 lab rat, and 1/2 hated "other" to them.
Posted by: major major major major at August 15, 2016 07:18 PM (YcKif)
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O/T.... but does ace get anything if we actually click on the ads and then buy something? I know that may be a dumb question, but since I don't really know the answer, it ain't dumb to me.... 
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 15, 2016 07:18 PM (br2jI)
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131 121
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. Vagina
3. Vagina
4. Vagina
5. Vagina
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. Vagina
3. Vagina
4. Vagina
5. Vagina
Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2016 07:19 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: HUSKER DU at August 15, 2016 07:19 PM (c1srJ)
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Would you say I have a plethora of boring scenes?
Posted by: Don 'Guapo' Corleone at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (c1srJ)
El Guapo is a pimp. He could never have outfought Dusty Bottoms.
Posted by: Don 'Guapo' Corleone at August 15, 2016 07:10 PM (c1srJ)
El Guapo is a pimp. He could never have outfought Dusty Bottoms.
Posted by: Lucky Day at August 15, 2016 07:20 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 15, 2016 07:20 PM (br2jI)
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@40: "I saw Sick Burn open for The Cramps at CBGB back when CBGB still existed."
You went to CBGB instead of Max's Kansas City? Go fuck yourself. You're bad and you should feel bad!
You went to CBGB instead of Max's Kansas City? Go fuck yourself. You're bad and you should feel bad!
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:20 PM (rznWS)
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Update from the Obozocare front: I had an eye doctor appointment (I need cataract surgery) and the doctor was complaining about Obozocare. She had a patient who suffered a corneal abrasion when a duck she was transporting in her car pecked her in the eye. She wondered how she would code that but, never fear, there is an Obozocare code for being pecked in the eye by a duck while driving.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:20 PM (Nwg0u)
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I can't get over it when I contemplate it, how any man could possibly pull the lever for Hillary. The very idea just blows my mind.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 15, 2016 07:21 PM (CFc5L)
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And now that Zuckenboiger has blasted past AdBlock to get ads into my stream or whatever he calls it, I'm on FacePlant much less than I ever was, which wasn't much in the first place.
And, no, I'm not 'friending' you, you T-shirted oligarchical little creep, you.
Isn't having the current President of the United States as your own personal hemorrhoid enough for you??!??
And, no, I'm not 'friending' you, you T-shirted oligarchical little creep, you.
Isn't having the current President of the United States as your own personal hemorrhoid enough for you??!??
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 15, 2016 07:21 PM (nd1zx)
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131 121
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. Vagina
3. Vagina
4. Vagina
5. Vagina
And that's just the echo.
I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. Vagina
3. Vagina
4. Vagina
5. Vagina
And that's just the echo.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2016 07:21 PM (Pby3z)
rincetonAl The argument clinic
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rJxzw)
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People shouldn't try to argue. 95% of them are unequipped to do so.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rwI+c)
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I've struggled with the idea of severing ties with someone just because they are going to vote for Hillary. This is harder because that category only include those who survived the fact that they probably voted for Obama. I mean, they had enough value to continue as friends, strained as it was.
But to vote for Hillary!?!?
No, that really is a bridge too far.
As for the Trumpsters and NeverTrumpers, I am firmly caught in the middle, and thus abandoned nearly equally by the more ardent of both camps.
I guess I am just not singing loudly and cheerfully enough on our Bataan March...
But to vote for Hillary!?!?
No, that really is a bridge too far.
As for the Trumpsters and NeverTrumpers, I am firmly caught in the middle, and thus abandoned nearly equally by the more ardent of both camps.
I guess I am just not singing loudly and cheerfully enough on our Bataan March...
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (CRQ5V)
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I can't get over it when I contemplate it, how any man could possibly pull the lever for Hillary. The very idea just blows my mind.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 15, 2016 07:21 PM (CFc5L)
Hillary hasn't had her lever pulled by a guy in decades.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 15, 2016 07:21 PM (CFc5L)
Hillary hasn't had her lever pulled by a guy in decades.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (8ZskC)
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That includes creating distance between me and anyone who votes for him or her.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 15, 2016 07:14 PM (lhvb+)
For me that includes family and friends. I only have so much time and energy left in my life. If you support O'Dumbass or the Beast, I'm done with you. You are my enemy. Period.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 15, 2016 07:14 PM (lhvb+)
For me that includes family and friends. I only have so much time and energy left in my life. If you support O'Dumbass or the Beast, I'm done with you. You are my enemy. Period.
Posted by: Country Boy at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (heN73)
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"It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another."
Were we ever really some "big happy family"?
"It is very unfortunate, what social media and politics have done to fracture Americans, one against another."
Were we ever really some "big happy family"?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (IqV8l)
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Nah, my liberal friends didn't unfriend me. They just hid my posts from showing up in their feeds, and I have done the same. Plus, this happened well before the 2016 election season. The minute I started posting about Obamacare and Obama's horrible policies, the lefties in my Facebook life disappeared....
Posted by: K-E at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (FhrS2)
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I thought the object of Twatter was to compress the maximum stupidity into 140 characters.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (Nwg0u)
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And now that Zuckenboiger has blasted past AdBlock
________
Don't know if you heard, but a "mysterious" buyer bought Adblock and everyone is pretty sure its some big tech firm that was losing big money.
I recommend U-Block, does a great job
________
Don't know if you heard, but a "mysterious" buyer bought Adblock and everyone is pretty sure its some big tech firm that was losing big money.
I recommend U-Block, does a great job
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (jlfpP)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:20 PM (Nwg0u)
Technically, ICD-10 codes don't have anything to do with O-care.
They're still pretty ridiculous, though.
Technically, ICD-10 codes don't have anything to do with O-care.
They're still pretty ridiculous, though.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (aJcfp)
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126
Things are gonna be a lot different in 2017. A lot different. Especially if Trump loses.
The GOP will be dead. A lot of phony conservatives in the media will be unemployed.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (hS3+Z)
Only if Trump wins will those pundits, possibly, disappear. If it's a choice between getting access to a Trump WH or chucking George Will, they'll chuck Will.
If he loses, they'll triple down on everything. And the implications of that I don't even want to think about.
Things are gonna be a lot different in 2017. A lot different. Especially if Trump loses.
The GOP will be dead. A lot of phony conservatives in the media will be unemployed.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:16 PM (hS3+Z)
Only if Trump wins will those pundits, possibly, disappear. If it's a choice between getting access to a Trump WH or chucking George Will, they'll chuck Will.
If he loses, they'll triple down on everything. And the implications of that I don't even want to think about.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (4ErVI)
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Mystified why anyone is on FB or Twitter. Even as much as I enjoy this space, it's often hollerin down a well. The end of public discourse (the 60's? Everyone carrying signs saying hooray for our side, etc.), was the end of the Republic.
Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (u+0lh)
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>>>I find it fun to ask some of our libby friends when the election talk
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. First Woman President
3. Third term for Bill
4. Cons/GOP hate her, ergo awesome
5. Democrat
comes up, "Ya know, I'm kind of on the fence, what are 5 really good
reasons to vote for Hillary?"
1. Democrat
2. First Woman President
3. Third term for Bill
4. Cons/GOP hate her, ergo awesome
5. Democrat
Posted by: gutteral, visceral messager at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (ld027)
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El Guapo is a pimp. He could never have outfought Dusty Bottoms.
But I did not know, until this day, that it was Little Neddy all along.
But I did not know, until this day, that it was Little Neddy all along.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (rwI+c)
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"Update from the Obozocare front: I had an eye doctor appointment (I need cataract surgery)"
Good luck! I had that last year (with fricken' LASERS and lens implants) and am thrilled with the results.
20/15 both eyes, bay-bee. It's a wonderful world!
Good luck! I had that last year (with fricken' LASERS and lens implants) and am thrilled with the results.
20/15 both eyes, bay-bee. It's a wonderful world!
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (nd1zx)
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Actually it was the Ministry of Arguments.
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rJxzw)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rJxzw)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: BignJames at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (9RGU3)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
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@59: "why would you be friends with someone that will not lift a finger for you if you get carted off to the camps?"
You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you, thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you, thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
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Mystified why anyone is on FB or Twitter.
I just use it to stalk old girlfriends.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
I just use it to stalk old girlfriends.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM (xhqXI)
Posted by: The GOPe, with a white flag in one hand and a Red Banner in the other at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM (rznWS)
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Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM (xhqXI)
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM (xhqXI)
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM (8ZskC)
164
I rarely Facebook or Twatter. I get enough stupid in the course of my daily affair. I don't need to pipe it in special.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM (Nwg0u)
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I just use it to stalk old girlfriends.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
Who doesn't?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
Who doesn't?
Posted by: NSA at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM (cmE8J)
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So far I've only unfriended one person this year. And that was a mid-20s son of real life friends who believed that his support for the "beer and tacos for abortion" was something the rest of us wanted to see.
Posted by: John Pomeroy at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM (Cqa1S)
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Only if Trump wins will those pundits, possibly, disappear. If it's a choice between getting access to a Trump WH or chucking George Will, they'll chuck Will.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (4ErVI)
So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 15, 2016 07:23 PM (4ErVI)
So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
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@72: "
Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
Posted by: Ace
Yes it is."
Posted by: Argument Clinic at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (xhqXI)
Sorry, the proper phrasing is "Yuh-huh!"
Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
Posted by: Ace
Yes it is."
Posted by: Argument Clinic at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (xhqXI)
Sorry, the proper phrasing is "Yuh-huh!"
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rznWS)
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>>Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Tag their photos with : 'Wow! Your Mom looks great.'
Tag their photos with : 'Wow! Your Mom looks great.'
Posted by: garrett at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (c1srJ)
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158 Actually it was the Ministry of Arguments.
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rJxzw)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: BignJames
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!! FUCK!! YOU!!
(even faking outrage is tiring. Where do people get the energy?)
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:22 PM (rJxzw)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: BignJames
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!! FUCK!! YOU!!
(even faking outrage is tiring. Where do people get the energy?)
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rJxzw)
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Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM
Schadenfat
Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM
Schadenfat
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (IqV8l)
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Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM (xhqXI)
The best thing for my sanity was when my ex un friended me. I thought we were going to try the whole still being friends crap, but that opened my eyes. So I changed my Netflix password and was able to move on.
The best thing for my sanity was when my ex un friended me. I thought we were going to try the whole still being friends crap, but that opened my eyes. So I changed my Netflix password and was able to move on.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (aJcfp)
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Twitter is the place to be for up-to-the-minute political news. Found out news usually the day before it appeared in print. It's fantastic. You can also find links to videos from different news sources - Lou Dobbs, Judge Jeanine, etc. So much easier and faster than digging online individually for the clips. You can also see direct-from-the-source pics of Trump events.
This is the way to get around the mainstream press and find like-minded individuals. Tons of fun!
This is the way to get around the mainstream press and find like-minded individuals. Tons of fun!
Posted by: K-E at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (FhrS2)
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I wrote a love duet about this, called "Friend Me Again".
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (w7KSn)
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but, never fear, there is an Obozocare code for being pecked in the eye by a duck while driving.
Was it called a 'billing'?
Was it called a 'billing'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (LdMbv)
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..."because you really can't include too much nuance and caveat in 140 characters". Except for you, Jim Treacher, Iowahawk, Tim Blair and Glenn Reynolds.
Posted by: Mary at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (2ly7u)
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Good luck! I had that last year (with fricken' LASERS and lens implants) and am thrilled with the results.
-
That's what the doctor told me. Most people are thrilled with the results.
-
That's what the doctor told me. Most people are thrilled with the results.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (Nwg0u)
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I quit both FB and Twitter 4 or 5 months ago because of just this.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 15, 2016 07:30 PM (sqpGi)
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32 Evan McMullin getting a tongue bath on Special Report panel.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Nothing compared to what Bob Costas did to Usain Bolt on NBC. I've seen fawning interviews by jock-sniffing journalists, but that should have been rated X. I felt the urge to smoke a cigarette and then make a sandwich after watching that.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Nothing compared to what Bob Costas did to Usain Bolt on NBC. I've seen fawning interviews by jock-sniffing journalists, but that should have been rated X. I felt the urge to smoke a cigarette and then make a sandwich after watching that.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM (PL2OL)
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Speaking of ad blockers. I just ordered ATT cable and internet. Time Warner has had it. The woman wanted to make sure I knew that ATT inserted ads over their network, I ask her if ad block would block them and she seems to say it would, BUT I was not impressed with her answer.
Anyone know?
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM (F1iXz)
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(even faking outrage is tiring. Where do people get the energy?)
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rJxzw) fnord (rJxzw)
Like introverts and extroverts, there is an asshole/decent spectrum. Like introverts are exhausted by attention and extroverts are invigorated by it, assholes are invigorated by conflict, the more vulgar the better.
I'm about a hair's breadth away from quitting internet comments entirely, and site after site falls to the advancing army of "conflict thrill" posters bashing each other constantly.
Posted by: Puddleglum is on vacation, Weeeee at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rJxzw) fnord (rJxzw)
Like introverts and extroverts, there is an asshole/decent spectrum. Like introverts are exhausted by attention and extroverts are invigorated by it, assholes are invigorated by conflict, the more vulgar the better.
I'm about a hair's breadth away from quitting internet comments entirely, and site after site falls to the advancing army of "conflict thrill" posters bashing each other constantly.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (wB8Tg)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
****
Would you please stop with the Strawman bullshit? Getting really old.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
****
Would you please stop with the Strawman bullshit? Getting really old.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)
183
Journalists are simply gossip hounds, no more, no less.
Posted by: gutteral, visceral messager at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (ld027)
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Wait till you see my140 char Sikh burn!
Posted by: Pradeep Singh at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (CWAb5)
Posted by: Twit at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (ZCD1T)
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I'll note that this 'unfriending' stuff has been going on for a lot longer than the election season.
Yes, people are angry... about a LOT of stuff... the election is just the current MSM scapegoat.
Lets face it... the economy sucks... the schools suck... the Government sucks the life out of us... taxes suck... Hollywood sucks... TV sucks...
Hell... you can't even watch sports anymore without getting a bunch of SJW crap thrown in... I mean come on.... a Woman doing the Play by Play for a RAIDERS GAME???? WTF???
It ain't just the election folks.... some of us are just plain tired of being told our opinions don't matter when you try to shove YOUR shit down our throats...
Yes, people are angry... about a LOT of stuff... the election is just the current MSM scapegoat.
Lets face it... the economy sucks... the schools suck... the Government sucks the life out of us... taxes suck... Hollywood sucks... TV sucks...
Hell... you can't even watch sports anymore without getting a bunch of SJW crap thrown in... I mean come on.... a Woman doing the Play by Play for a RAIDERS GAME???? WTF???
It ain't just the election folks.... some of us are just plain tired of being told our opinions don't matter when you try to shove YOUR shit down our throats...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (qf6WZ)
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Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
HA!
That is when I am especially eager to be friendly and willing to forgive forget and be good friends... sharing lots of photos of how I most definitely have NOT.
Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
HA!
That is when I am especially eager to be friendly and willing to forgive forget and be good friends... sharing lots of photos of how I most definitely have NOT.
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (CRQ5V)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Sure, if it's Trump.
So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Sure, if it's Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (hS3+Z)
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168 @72: "
Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
Posted by: Ace
Yes it is."
Posted by: Argument Clinic at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (xhqXI)
Sorry, the proper phrasing is "Yuh-huh!"
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rznWS)
Is So! Is So!
Refuting? "Nuh-uh" isn't a refutation. It's not even an adult word.
Posted by: Ace
Yes it is."
Posted by: Argument Clinic at August 15, 2016 07:02 PM (xhqXI)
Sorry, the proper phrasing is "Yuh-huh!"
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (rznWS)
Is So! Is So!
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (z/Ubi)
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I just use it to stalk old girlfriends.
Weirdly, this has never occurred to me.
I just checked one and she's got a FB, yeesh,..
Time has not been kind.
Weirdly, this has never occurred to me.
I just checked one and she's got a FB, yeesh,..
Time has not been kind.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (rwI+c)
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You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you, thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
Exactly. In totalitarian societies, parents are even afraid of their own children. They're thoroughly indoctrinated in school, and they might tell their teacher if they hear their parents say something "wrong".
You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you, thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
Exactly. In totalitarian societies, parents are even afraid of their own children. They're thoroughly indoctrinated in school, and they might tell their teacher if they hear their parents say something "wrong".
Posted by: rickl at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (sdi6R)
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175 but, never fear, there is an Obozocare code for being pecked in the eye by a duck while driving.
Was it called a 'billing'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (LdMbv)
Slow clap.
That was awesome.
Was it called a 'billing'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (LdMbv)
Slow clap.
That was awesome.
Posted by: Moki at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (ezHMO)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?Posted by: person(a non grata)
Troll. When Hillary Clinton allows the press unfettered access to her comings and goings, her climbing the steps of a plane without a handler by her side, then we can talk.
Go away. Everyone knows your game.
Troll. When Hillary Clinton allows the press unfettered access to her comings and goings, her climbing the steps of a plane without a handler by her side, then we can talk.
Go away. Everyone knows your game.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (ZnIt3)
Posted by: ALH at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (Z56vq)
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Would you please stop with the Strawman bullshit? Getting really old.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)
Read what he wrote.
Now, tell me how the question I posed is a strawman.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)
Read what he wrote.
Now, tell me how the question I posed is a strawman.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (mFkVC)
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you cant waste any of that on so-called friends that value a false morality over you
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (swEzU)
Preach on Brother!....and you ain't no fool.
you cant waste any of that on so-called friends that value a false morality over you
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 06:53 PM (swEzU)
Preach on Brother!....and you ain't no fool.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (ej1L0)
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If you have the guts. But that's hard. Much easier just to rip someone in a 140 character Sick Burn.
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Like, the Constitution is sooooooo old. Like, twitter, is uh, totally where the smartset hang out. Note, less then 144 characters
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Like, the Constitution is sooooooo old. Like, twitter, is uh, totally where the smartset hang out. Note, less then 144 characters
Posted by: Ezra Klein at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (eMRWF)
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180 Speaking of ad blockers. I just ordered ATT cable and internet. Time Warner has had it. The woman wanted to make sure I knew that ATT inserted ads over their network, I ask her if ad block would block them and she seems to say it would, BUT I was not impressed with her answer.
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM (F1iXz)
Had ATT Uverse cable and internet before I moved. Adblock worked fine. No clue what that "ads over their network means."
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM (F1iXz)
Had ATT Uverse cable and internet before I moved. Adblock worked fine. No clue what that "ads over their network means."
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (z/Ubi)
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175 but, never fear, there is an Obozocare code for being pecked in the eye by a duck while driving.
Was it called a 'billing'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (LdMbv)
Are there separate codes for the Person driving, vice the Duck driving?
Was it called a 'billing'?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (LdMbv)
Are there separate codes for the Person driving, vice the Duck driving?
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (qf6WZ)
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"That's what the doctor told me. Most people are thrilled with the results.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (Nwg0u)"If you have any significant astigmatism, the laser procedure is worth the extra bux it might cost you.
Plus the accuracy of the incisions are very comforting to think of during the operation, which is a white-knuckle experience due to the whole "MY EYES! GAHHH!" part, somewhat damped down by a couple lousy Valium.
I was a poor lad with phenomenally lousy eyesight my whole life, and now it's like living in a computer sim with the detail cranked up to maximum overdrive.It's great! Good luck!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at August 15, 2016 07:29 PM (Nwg0u)"If you have any significant astigmatism, the laser procedure is worth the extra bux it might cost you.
Plus the accuracy of the incisions are very comforting to think of during the operation, which is a white-knuckle experience due to the whole "MY EYES! GAHHH!" part, somewhat damped down by a couple lousy Valium.
I was a poor lad with phenomenally lousy eyesight my whole life, and now it's like living in a computer sim with the detail cranked up to maximum overdrive.It's great! Good luck!
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (nd1zx)
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No, YOU need to re-read what Dack wrote.
He's not saying Trump will oust George Will, he's saying Will's employer will shitcan Will.
No, YOU need to re-read what Dack wrote.
He's not saying Trump will oust George Will, he's saying Will's employer will shitcan Will.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:36 PM (hS3+Z)
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Cheers, Moki. 
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:36 PM (LdMbv)
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Now, tell me how the question I posed is a strawman.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (mFkVC)
****
I did. Then I read your response. Hence my comment.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:34 PM (mFkVC)
****
I did. Then I read your response. Hence my comment.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 07:36 PM (KcI5m)
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So you would support an American President demanding
that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with
the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
You mean like Sharyl Attkisson?
that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with
the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
You mean like Sharyl Attkisson?
Posted by: Stating The Obvious at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (cmE8J)
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Facemask is for old friends & family that live far away. I sign in every couple months to see if anyone from one of my old units had turned up,
Posted by: Kenyg at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (0s6C/)
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Now the deluge of fowl puns.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (xhqXI)
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The creepy thing about FB is the way the dead live on.
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (w7KSn)
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Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and 'un-friend' me!?
Posted by: John Edwards at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (c1srJ)
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But I'm talking about Erick Ercickson, and Glenn Beck, etc. And that cocksucker Rick Wilson.
These Shits are going out of business real soon.
But I'm talking about Erick Ercickson, and Glenn Beck, etc. And that cocksucker Rick Wilson.
These Shits are going out of business real soon.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (hS3+Z)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM
You mean sorta like Obama and Hillary does when they refuse to speak to press that actually wants to ask unscripted difficult questions?
So only NOW are you worried about politicians cherry picking their press...
Too late, your side set the precedence.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM
You mean sorta like Obama and Hillary does when they refuse to speak to press that actually wants to ask unscripted difficult questions?
So only NOW are you worried about politicians cherry picking their press...
Too late, your side set the precedence.
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (CRQ5V)
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I'll note that this 'unfriending' stuff has been going on for a lot longer than the election season.
***
Reality consistently disappoints the left...making them angry.
So they ratchet down harder on forcing the society to the left...which makes us angry.
It is a vicious cycle. The only ways out are the left gaining self-consciouness, or us making their desires to force their will on us to bring them pain.
***
Reality consistently disappoints the left...making them angry.
So they ratchet down harder on forcing the society to the left...which makes us angry.
It is a vicious cycle. The only ways out are the left gaining self-consciouness, or us making their desires to force their will on us to bring them pain.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (eMRWF)
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No, YOU need to re-read what Dack wrote.
He's not saying Trump will oust George Will, he's saying Will's employer will shitcan Will.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:36 PM (hS3+Z)
****
Exactly. Will would have made himself irrelevant.
He's not saying Trump will oust George Will, he's saying Will's employer will shitcan Will.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 15, 2016 07:36 PM (hS3+Z)
****
Exactly. Will would have made himself irrelevant.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (KcI5m)
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Who besides a complete idiot would click on any add anywhere? Have people learned nothing?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (E6b/B)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
It doesn't matter what I support. Previous presidents have threatened and pulled access. Trump will be no different. And the media love to cozy up to whatever party is in the WH. MSNBC hired several conservatives back in the early days of GWB to keep that access. Savage was one of them (he lost his job after calling someone a fag with AIDS or something like that, I think), but there were others. Even the libtards don't want to be shut out. If they think tossing Georgie Will or some of the other nevertrumpers, they'll do it in a heartbeat.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (mFkVC)
It doesn't matter what I support. Previous presidents have threatened and pulled access. Trump will be no different. And the media love to cozy up to whatever party is in the WH. MSNBC hired several conservatives back in the early days of GWB to keep that access. Savage was one of them (he lost his job after calling someone a fag with AIDS or something like that, I think), but there were others. Even the libtards don't want to be shut out. If they think tossing Georgie Will or some of the other nevertrumpers, they'll do it in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (4ErVI)
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@142
131 121
Part II of Reasons to Vote for Hillary the Inevitable is to ask...
What do you think are Hillary's five biggest accomplishments?
1. First Lady (husbands accomplishment)
2. Senator of New York (so she won a popularity contest. What did she DO?)
3. Secretary of State (so she got a gubbermint appointment. What did she do? I mean, besides let those guys in Bengazi die and then lie about it.)
4. Healthcare for kids in NY state. (Yeah, that was actually Ted Kennedy, but good try! Hae some Rice a Roni as a consolation prize!)
5. Crickets.
131 121
Part II of Reasons to Vote for Hillary the Inevitable is to ask...
What do you think are Hillary's five biggest accomplishments?
1. First Lady (husbands accomplishment)
2. Senator of New York (so she won a popularity contest. What did she DO?)
3. Secretary of State (so she got a gubbermint appointment. What did she do? I mean, besides let those guys in Bengazi die and then lie about it.)
4. Healthcare for kids in NY state. (Yeah, that was actually Ted Kennedy, but good try! Hae some Rice a Roni as a consolation prize!)
5. Crickets.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (tvyXw)
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@176: "because you really can't include too much nuance and caveat in 140 characters"."
Uh "too much nuance and caveat" is only 22 characters.....
Uh "too much nuance and caveat" is only 22 characters.....
Posted by: Literal Larry at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (rznWS)
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"The creepy thing about FB is the way the dead live on."
Be sure to stay out of Chicago on Election Day, then.
They're ALL out voting.
Be sure to stay out of Chicago on Election Day, then.
They're ALL out voting.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (nd1zx)
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17 I no longer can pretend that the Left is just "good people wanting the same things, just done differently"
I think that was true decades ago, not now.
I think most disturbing is there is a real hatred of Christianity among liberals, and I can't pretend that's anything but evil.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (jlfpP)
No it wasn't. They wore masks then and were still, mostly, in deep cover.
I think that was true decades ago, not now.
I think most disturbing is there is a real hatred of Christianity among liberals, and I can't pretend that's anything but evil.
Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2016 06:48 PM (jlfpP)
No it wasn't. They wore masks then and were still, mostly, in deep cover.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (72N6L)
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Digital Billing for human; Webbed Billing for duck.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (LdMbv)
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Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM
Schadenfat
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (IqV8l)
Schadenblubber
Am I the only one who celebrates when I see that they've gotten fat?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 15, 2016 07:26 PM
Hah! One of life's guilty pleasures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:27 PM
Schadenfat
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (IqV8l)
Schadenblubber
Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (0mRoj)
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"So you would support an American President demanding that press outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of access?"
Ask Sheryl Atkinson or perhaps the DNC
Ask Sheryl Atkinson or perhaps the DNC
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (swEzU)
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207 The creepy thing about FB is the way the dead live on.
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (w7KSn)
And of course... reminding their Dem friends to cast that ballot for them...
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:37 PM (w7KSn)
And of course... reminding their Dem friends to cast that ballot for them...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (qf6WZ)
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154 Mystified why anyone is on FB or Twitter.
________
Facebook is about people. Twitter is about interests.
On Twitter, I follow accounts that post pictures of cats, pictures of foxes, opinions about my favorite sports teams, music, stuff in a foreign language I'm trying to learn, recipes, investing ideas, leadership insights, and sometimes pictures of cats and dogs together. I unfollow anyone who clogs my Twitter timeline with nonstop politics, even if I'm of the same mind.
Facebook is about people, and to keep in touch with -- ... nuh-uh.
________
Facebook is about people. Twitter is about interests.
On Twitter, I follow accounts that post pictures of cats, pictures of foxes, opinions about my favorite sports teams, music, stuff in a foreign language I'm trying to learn, recipes, investing ideas, leadership insights, and sometimes pictures of cats and dogs together. I unfollow anyone who clogs my Twitter timeline with nonstop politics, even if I'm of the same mind.
Facebook is about people, and to keep in touch with -- ... nuh-uh.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (lhvb+)
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The creepy thing about FB is the way the dead live on.
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
Much like the Democrat voter rolls.
People I know that have been dead for years, I still get prompted to wish them happy birthday, invite them to this or that group, etc.
Creepy.
Much like the Democrat voter rolls.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (8ZskC)
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You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram
experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and
neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you,
thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
Exactly. In totalitarian societies, parents are even afraid of
their own children. They're thoroughly indoctrinated in school, and
they might tell their teacher if they hear their parents say something
"wrong".
Posted by: rickl at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (sdi6R)
Nuh-uh.
You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram
experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and
neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you,
thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
Exactly. In totalitarian societies, parents are even afraid of
their own children. They're thoroughly indoctrinated in school, and
they might tell their teacher if they hear their parents say something
"wrong".
Posted by: rickl at August 15, 2016 07:33 PM (sdi6R)
Nuh-uh.
Posted by: Zombie Pavlik Morozov at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: brief twitter reply at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (LdMbv)
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So you would support an American President demanding that press
outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of
access?///
Better to have a president that has the power of a willing press to do that through banishment and shear weight?
outlets fire people he dislikes and threatening them with the loss of
access?///
Better to have a president that has the power of a willing press to do that through banishment and shear weight?
Posted by: Willy J. at August 15, 2016 07:39 PM (BZey7)
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noodles
Posted by: gutteral, visceral messager at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (ld027)
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if you take a look at Drudge and his 'thanks a billion ' link to top us media publisher you will notice that no 13, for example (buzfeed) gets over 70 million visits from FB, VOX 20 million and so forth. Pretty cozy relationship. peope get bombarded with select leftist propaganda non-stop. sad
Posted by: Hillary! at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (c6/9Q)
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I don't even necessarily think its the "Nuh-uh!" aspect of it. Its when that become all they are. That you know when they show up you can predict what they are going to say, and that is all they are going to say. You say something positive about Trump, you know that BobbyJ is going to show up and start screaming. You say something negative about Trump you know that JimBob is going to show up and start screaming. And you know that's all they're going to be and never anything else.
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (z/Ubi)
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You mean sorta like Obama and Hillary does when they refuse to speak to press that actually wants to ask unscripted difficult questions?
So only NOW are you worried about politicians cherry picking their press...
Too late, your side set the precedence.
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (CRQ5V)
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"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
So only NOW are you worried about politicians cherry picking their press...
Too late, your side set the precedence.
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:38 PM (CRQ5V)
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"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (mFkVC)
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Speaking of ad blockers. I just ordered ATT cable and internet. Time Warner has had it. The woman wanted to make sure I knew that ATT inserted ads over their network, I ask her if ad block would block them and she seems to say it would, BUT I was not impressed with her answer.
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM
Anything like this? :
http://tinyurl.com/k5c2lny
Speaking of ad blockers. I just ordered ATT cable and internet. Time Warner has had it. The woman wanted to make sure I knew that ATT inserted ads over their network, I ask her if ad block would block them and she seems to say it would, BUT I was not impressed with her answer.
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:31 PM
Anything like this? :
http://tinyurl.com/k5c2lny
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (IqV8l)
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Had ATT Uverse cable and internet before I moved. Adblock worked fine. No clue what that "ads over their network means."
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (z/Ubi)
Thanks, who knew a dead man could give advice. That is what I suspected. One Gig speed on fiber, cheaper than my Time Warner shit and faster.
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2016 07:35 PM (z/Ubi)
Thanks, who knew a dead man could give advice. That is what I suspected. One Gig speed on fiber, cheaper than my Time Warner shit and faster.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (F1iXz)
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Life is currently too hard for me to take the time to explain myself to Hillary voters. It really is like arguing with a pig..
We are headed for a Civil War in this country. They are not movable. They will not yield and logic has no say in it! We will end up having to fight eventually. The old Civil War split many families, I expect the new one will too.
With the Stasi comment.. That may be too true. And if it is.. chilling.
We are headed for a Civil War in this country. They are not movable. They will not yield and logic has no say in it! We will end up having to fight eventually. The old Civil War split many families, I expect the new one will too.
With the Stasi comment.. That may be too true. And if it is.. chilling.
Posted by: catman at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (EcmAX)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (72N6L)
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LOL hillary had a moment
Posted by: runner at August 15, 2016 07:41 PM (c6/9Q)
237
#207 Buzzion had a Farcebook page, navybrat?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2016 07:41 PM (LdMbv)
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I think field hockey was invented by unscrupulous chiropractors trying to drum up new business.
"Here, play this sport where you run around hunched over the whole game! It'll help balance the humors!"
Sure are lotsa good-looking girls on the field/pitch/rink, though.
"Here, play this sport where you run around hunched over the whole game! It'll help balance the humors!"
Sure are lotsa good-looking girls on the field/pitch/rink, though.
Posted by: suddenly a fan of the Dutch at August 15, 2016 07:42 PM (ivcX+)
Posted by: BignJames at August 15, 2016 07:43 PM (9RGU3)
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"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (mFkVC)
Well then the Press has the Freedom to print what they want...
And Citizens have the RIGHT of Free Association... which also covers the RIGHT not to associate...
Please point out where in the Constitution is says you MUST give ALL the Press Access?
"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (mFkVC)
Well then the Press has the Freedom to print what they want...
And Citizens have the RIGHT of Free Association... which also covers the RIGHT not to associate...
Please point out where in the Constitution is says you MUST give ALL the Press Access?
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:43 PM (qf6WZ)
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@232
BINGO that is it. Wow, a little creepy. Wonder if ad blocker will still work on those ads?
Anyone know?
BINGO that is it. Wow, a little creepy. Wonder if ad blocker will still work on those ads?
Anyone know?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 15, 2016 07:44 PM (F1iXz)
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I don't join any pages except ones that are relevant to my occupation. I absolutely never click "like" on anything political, because as soon as you do, it gets broadcast to 2000 of my "friends" even ones that I would rather not know certain things about me.
Posted by: navybrat at August 15, 2016 07:44 PM (w7KSn)
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65 Evan : the decision is settled on same sex marriage.
Evan : I will appoint judges to overturn Roe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (IqV8l)
The obvious follow-up question would have been, you're a Mormon, so what about polygamy? Shouldn't the Court rule that if two men have a constitutional right to marry each other, then logically isn't there also a constitutional right for two women and a man to get married? If not, what is the distinguishing principle?
But they didn't want to trip him up.
Evan : I will appoint judges to overturn Roe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 15, 2016 07:00 PM (IqV8l)
The obvious follow-up question would have been, you're a Mormon, so what about polygamy? Shouldn't the Court rule that if two men have a constitutional right to marry each other, then logically isn't there also a constitutional right for two women and a man to get married? If not, what is the distinguishing principle?
But they didn't want to trip him up.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 15, 2016 07:44 PM (PL2OL)
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"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (mFkVC)
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No your side isn't.
If you were truly a Constitutional Conservative then you would assert that the President has no CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility to cater to hostile mouth pieces of the political opposition posing as press.
Your inference to the contrary puts the lie on your claim.
"My side" is Constitutional Conservatism.
And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at August 15, 2016 07:40 PM (mFkVC)
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No your side isn't.
If you were truly a Constitutional Conservative then you would assert that the President has no CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility to cater to hostile mouth pieces of the political opposition posing as press.
Your inference to the contrary puts the lie on your claim.
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:44 PM (CRQ5V)
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BREAKING: Obama Regime Releases 15 Gitmo Detainees, Shipped To UAE, Single Largest Release Ever, More Coming
Weasel Zippers
Weasel Zippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:44 PM (zp+j1)
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"BREAKING: Obama Regime Releases 15 Gitmo Detainees, Shipped To UAE, Single Largest Release Ever, More Coming
Weasel Zippers"
Gee, didnt Congress say they would act if he did that again? (or was that TWO terrorist releases ago?)
Weasel Zippers"
Gee, didnt Congress say they would act if he did that again? (or was that TWO terrorist releases ago?)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (swEzU)
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Exactly. In totalitarian societies, parents are even afraid of
their own children.
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True story, embarrassed to admit it. Single white female here.
I have a part time job at an amphitheater and in that job, I work with a lot of 'brothers' from rough neighborhoods. There are some that are great guys, and some make me nervous.
The other night, when we were all on stage working, one of the younger brothers stood in the middle of stage on his cell phone for about 20 minutes. His supervisor (a black man) didn't say anything to him; either did my supervisor, who is another black man. However, if one of the non-black crew does that, they are on your ass like sweat on a pig.
Could I complain? Nope. I'll be seen as "racist." Did I complain? No. It's a waste of breath. Nothing will be done.
Also... it's a long walk to the parking lot, and things could happen. And honestly, I work with a lot of millennial cowards who would look the other way if they saw something violent happen.
THAT'S the world we live in.
their own children.
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True story, embarrassed to admit it. Single white female here.
I have a part time job at an amphitheater and in that job, I work with a lot of 'brothers' from rough neighborhoods. There are some that are great guys, and some make me nervous.
The other night, when we were all on stage working, one of the younger brothers stood in the middle of stage on his cell phone for about 20 minutes. His supervisor (a black man) didn't say anything to him; either did my supervisor, who is another black man. However, if one of the non-black crew does that, they are on your ass like sweat on a pig.
Could I complain? Nope. I'll be seen as "racist." Did I complain? No. It's a waste of breath. Nothing will be done.
Also... it's a long walk to the parking lot, and things could happen. And honestly, I work with a lot of millennial cowards who would look the other way if they saw something violent happen.
THAT'S the world we live in.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (tvyXw)
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Well then the Press has the Freedom to print what they want...
And Citizens have the RIGHT of Free Association... which also covers the RIGHT not to associate...
Please point out where in the Constitution is says you MUST give ALL the Press Access?
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:43 PM (qf6WZ)
I wasn't arguing access to the President was a constitutional right, just that limiting access based on which commentators an outlet employs is not a good thing.
The first line was simply a response to the constant insinuation that I'm a lib.
And Citizens have the RIGHT of Free Association... which also covers the RIGHT not to associate...
Please point out where in the Constitution is says you MUST give ALL the Press Access?
Posted by: Don Q. at August 15, 2016 07:43 PM (qf6WZ)
I wasn't arguing access to the President was a constitutional right, just that limiting access based on which commentators an outlet employs is not a good thing.
The first line was simply a response to the constant insinuation that I'm a lib.
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Posted by: garrett at August 15, 2016 07:28 PM (c1srJ)
I'm curious what you think of the spear hunting story in the sidebar.....
I'm curious what you think of the spear hunting story in the sidebar.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)
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I'll note that the defriending thing is of a piece with the "If you vote Trump I'll fucking divorce you" crap in the sidebar.
Funny part about that piece is that it's the wives who are freaking out about their husband's political choices and trying to blackmail them. The husbands are the tolerant ones in the relationship. Plus, the wives were stupid enough to talk to the NYT about their attempted blackmail, giving their husbands a perfect out for divorce.
I'll note that the defriending thing is of a piece with the "If you vote Trump I'll fucking divorce you" crap in the sidebar.
Funny part about that piece is that it's the wives who are freaking out about their husband's political choices and trying to blackmail them. The husbands are the tolerant ones in the relationship. Plus, the wives were stupid enough to talk to the NYT about their attempted blackmail, giving their husbands a perfect out for divorce.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2016 07:47 PM (LuZz8)
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@231: "And honestly - the other side did a bad thing, so we should do the same
bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country."
Um, wanna know why we didn't prosecute German naval commanders for war crimes for unrestricted submarine warfare in the Atlantic during WWII? Because that shit worked like magic when we used it against the Japs.
bad thing EVEN HARDER is a great way to improve the country."
Um, wanna know why we didn't prosecute German naval commanders for war crimes for unrestricted submarine warfare in the Atlantic during WWII? Because that shit worked like magic when we used it against the Japs.
Posted by: Admiral Chester Nimitz at August 15, 2016 07:48 PM (rznWS)
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LOL
"If you vote Trump I'll fucking divorce you"
"thank you, then I can copy Trump and get a younger, better looking wife!"
"If you vote Trump I'll fucking divorce you"
"thank you, then I can copy Trump and get a younger, better looking wife!"
Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (swEzU)
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I'm guilty as charged on this score. Some of my liberal friends have actually complained when I de-friended them. Yet when they call out the candidates I support as, say, racists, then what do they think of me?
I have conservative friends and liberal friends on Facebook. The liberal friends blurt out their political opinions without impunity. My conservative friends for the most part, keep quiet.
I have conservative friends and liberal friends on Facebook. The liberal friends blurt out their political opinions without impunity. My conservative friends for the most part, keep quiet.
Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (c056A)
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You're not accounting for stuff like the Milgram experiment and how many informants the Stasi had. Your Lefty friends and neighbors will very likely be lifting their fingers to point at you, thereby being the reason that you get carted off to the camps.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
And it's going to be a heck of a lot easier for the Big Brother state now to know who and where everyone is and what they are doing because of online and other surveillance technology that the East Germans did not have.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 07:25 PM (rznWS)
And it's going to be a heck of a lot easier for the Big Brother state now to know who and where everyone is and what they are doing because of online and other surveillance technology that the East Germans did not have.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (PL2OL)
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i cant imagine how people of two polar opposite political persuasions can be married to each other
Posted by: runner at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (c6/9Q)
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The Trump flyers are really slick, don't take no shit off at all. The Hitlery ones now, thats real paper, and thick enough you can really dig up in there with 'em.
Plus with hers I dont need to use my socks no more when I run a batch. Right on her face it goes.
The Trump flyers are really slick, don't take no shit off at all. The Hitlery ones now, thats real paper, and thick enough you can really dig up in there with 'em.
Plus with hers I dont need to use my socks no more when I run a batch. Right on her face it goes.
Posted by: Dirty Frank, Degenerate Hobo at August 15, 2016 07:50 PM (Za1Oq)
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I'm curious what you think of the spear hunting story in the sidebar.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)
You didn't ask me, but I'd like to see him take on a Cape Buffalo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)
You didn't ask me, but I'd like to see him take on a Cape Buffalo.
Posted by: BignJames at August 15, 2016 07:51 PM (9RGU3)
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The FBI will be right on that - any second now - here they come - like the 7th Cavalry sounding charge - followed by the full moral outrage of the Department of Justice riding in like enraged Valkyries. Any second now.
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All of the governments resources are being used up by the Bergdahl investigation.
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All of the governments resources are being used up by the Bergdahl investigation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:52 PM (jO7js)
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Prediction: Pardon for Bergdahl
Prediction: Pardon for Bergdahl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:52 PM (jO7js)
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Hundreds welcome Israeli medalists at the airport
More than 500 enthusiastic fans gather at the Ben Gurion Airport to welcome back Yarden Gerbi and Or Sasson.
More than 500 enthusiastic fans gather at the Ben Gurion Airport to welcome back Yarden Gerbi and Or Sasson.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:53 PM (zp+j1)
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All of the governments resources are being used up by the Bergdahl investigation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:52 PM (jO7js)
To be precise, the government investigation into whether the other guys in his unit violated their non-disclosure agreements by speaking publicly against Bergdahl.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:52 PM (jO7js)
To be precise, the government investigation into whether the other guys in his unit violated their non-disclosure agreements by speaking publicly against Bergdahl.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 15, 2016 07:54 PM (PL2OL)
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i cant imagine how people of two polar opposite political persuasions can be married to each other
Posted by: runner at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (c6/9Q)
We like to think of it as a non-aggression pact.
i cant imagine how people of two polar opposite political persuasions can be married to each other
Posted by: runner at August 15, 2016 07:49 PM (c6/9Q)
We like to think of it as a non-aggression pact.
Posted by: Paul Ryan at August 15, 2016 07:55 PM (cmE8J)
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I'm curious what you think of the spear hunting story in the sidebar.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)
I think the article is full of Bull Shit and self contradiction for anyone with any sense.
The bear ran away witht he spear 2 feet inside and took 20 hours to die...
Uh huh, and only made it 60 ft?!?!
A bear could cover 60 ft in under 3 seconds at a run, and running with a spear 2 ft inside anything will bleed it out like a busted balloon.
Oh the bear was baited and then killed...
Yeah, that's pretty much how to kill every bear during bear season, so the point is...? False advertising?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 15, 2016 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)
I think the article is full of Bull Shit and self contradiction for anyone with any sense.
The bear ran away witht he spear 2 feet inside and took 20 hours to die...
Uh huh, and only made it 60 ft?!?!
A bear could cover 60 ft in under 3 seconds at a run, and running with a spear 2 ft inside anything will bleed it out like a busted balloon.
Oh the bear was baited and then killed...
Yeah, that's pretty much how to kill every bear during bear season, so the point is...? False advertising?
Posted by: Nuh-uh at August 15, 2016 07:55 PM (CRQ5V)
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@260: "More than 500 enthusiastic fans gather at the Ben Gurion Airport to welcome back Yarden Gerbi and Or Sasson."
Well, which is it? Yarden Gerbi, Yarden Sasson, or Yarden Gerbi-Sasson?
Well, which is it? Yarden Gerbi, Yarden Sasson, or Yarden Gerbi-Sasson?
Posted by: Literal Larry at August 15, 2016 07:55 PM (rznWS)
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This post sort of reminds me of that sidebar item about the mixed marriages: she supports Clinton, he leans towards Trump.
I found it fascinating that the liberal open minded women demanded that their husbands not support Trump. And by fascinating, I mean totally unsurprising. And by liberal open minded women, I mean totalitarian thunder cvnts.
The husbands made no such demands of their wives. Imagine the reaction if they did?
I found it fascinating that the liberal open minded women demanded that their husbands not support Trump. And by fascinating, I mean totally unsurprising. And by liberal open minded women, I mean totalitarian thunder cvnts.
The husbands made no such demands of their wives. Imagine the reaction if they did?
Posted by: Butch at August 15, 2016 07:56 PM (hXu8T)
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I have conservative friends and liberal friends on Facebook. The liberal friends blurt out their political opinions without impunity. My conservative friends for the most part, keep quiet.
Posted by: Mike
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The Left's plan is working perfectly.
Too many examples to list, but for-examples might be Rodeo Cowboy, Joe the Plumber. Those are just high profile.
The same thing is happening at virtually all of the schools.
Posted by: Mike
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The Left's plan is working perfectly.
Too many examples to list, but for-examples might be Rodeo Cowboy, Joe the Plumber. Those are just high profile.
The same thing is happening at virtually all of the schools.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:56 PM (jO7js)
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My wife and I are on the same page. She hates that SOB FAB as much as I do, well almost
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2016 07:56 PM (zp+j1)
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The same thing is happening at virtually all of the schools.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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We had a post here the other day re University SGA VP who was suspended for 50 days for a FB post, "All Lives Matter"
The same thing is happening at virtually all of the schools.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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We had a post here the other day re University SGA VP who was suspended for 50 days for a FB post, "All Lives Matter"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2016 07:58 PM (jO7js)
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It's always awesome being the mythical creature, the people who got off Facebook, social media, while the getting was good, lol. People ask you questions. lol They are mystified.
Posted by: Twostellas at August 15, 2016 08:05 PM (eLvFT)
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Hey persona, what you call "press" I call "propagandist".
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at August 15, 2016 08:07 PM (nWmg2)
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Talk radio is a medium that thrives on truth and logic. Both are foreign to liberalism.
Posted by: Dennis at August 15, 2016 08:18 PM (Qm6TR)
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"Every medium has a certain type of message it's good at delivering,..."
Just maybe an hour ago I caught a glimpse at FOX, not that it was the topic of discussion, but they showed video clip after video clip of Hillary Clinton gingerly stepping down the stairs of her plane (on the right side of the screen above the talking heads).
For all I know those clips dated back to her First Lady days. They certainly were not in the last year or so because the Clinton Camp won't allow outsiders to witness how they get her onto the plane anymore.
But the message was sent, despite rumors to the contrary, Hillary is a spry near septuagenarian. Without saying a word.
TV is a hell of a propaganda machine.
Just maybe an hour ago I caught a glimpse at FOX, not that it was the topic of discussion, but they showed video clip after video clip of Hillary Clinton gingerly stepping down the stairs of her plane (on the right side of the screen above the talking heads).
For all I know those clips dated back to her First Lady days. They certainly were not in the last year or so because the Clinton Camp won't allow outsiders to witness how they get her onto the plane anymore.
But the message was sent, despite rumors to the contrary, Hillary is a spry near septuagenarian. Without saying a word.
TV is a hell of a propaganda machine.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 15, 2016 08:18 PM (P/kVC)
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The problem is that politics is no longer a argument on point of view. One group is specifically trying to take from another. When you disagree with the takers you get called an awful person, racist etc. Others just regurgitate comebacks they learn from a political comedy program. If anything this election cycle has helped everyone realize who they should not have in their lives.
Posted by: Chachnach at August 15, 2016 08:25 PM (dir9f)
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When you disagree with the takers you get called an awful person, racist etc.
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And quite often, they have a "Coexist" bumper sticker on their hybrid car.
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And quite often, they have a "Coexist" bumper sticker on their hybrid car.
Posted by: RKae at August 15, 2016 08:38 PM (CYNno)
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Politics alone aren't enough to cause me to unfriend someone, but they do occasionally make me reevaluate the relationship. Do I have quite a few other things in common with them? If so, they get to stay on board. But if I only have one or two things in common with them, and those aren't enough to outweigh the political negative, away they go.
Posted by: menoichius at August 15, 2016 08:39 PM (OJ6NX)
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Another of the harmful effects of TV is that everything gets turned into entertainment, which means it has to have drama. But real life usually is best without a lot of drama. The need for drama also means that processes are edited out, which leads to distorted perceptions on how difficult or long a task may take
Consider the so called 72 hour makeover shows on reality TV. You never see any measuring. The local home improvement store also has everything they need on hand. So the exact amounts needed appear on time, every time. I get a particular kick out of the restaurant remodels in which they never show the walls being scrubbed down and sanded to remove grease before they can be repainted. Or the floor finishes that seem to instantly dry,
Consider the so called 72 hour makeover shows on reality TV. You never see any measuring. The local home improvement store also has everything they need on hand. So the exact amounts needed appear on time, every time. I get a particular kick out of the restaurant remodels in which they never show the walls being scrubbed down and sanded to remove grease before they can be repainted. Or the floor finishes that seem to instantly dry,
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at August 15, 2016 08:42 PM (8+il0)
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Thoughtful post, ace.
Yeah, this has been an issue with me. Two things set me off:
1. Out and out smears and lying.
2. Bigotry, particularly towards me.
Also, I have to protect myself. If someone is not close and reveals themselves to be flat out evil, I will do what I have to do to protect myself.
Having said that, I've unfriended very few on FB, but unfollowed a lot on twitter.
But one way to go is to Facebook unfollow (as opposed to unfriend) until the election is past. And I think twitter had a mute function. Remember that people sometimes eventually see the light when reality hits them in the face. And we are probably about to find out reality is a bitch.
Yeah, this has been an issue with me. Two things set me off:
1. Out and out smears and lying.
2. Bigotry, particularly towards me.
Also, I have to protect myself. If someone is not close and reveals themselves to be flat out evil, I will do what I have to do to protect myself.
Having said that, I've unfriended very few on FB, but unfollowed a lot on twitter.
But one way to go is to Facebook unfollow (as opposed to unfriend) until the election is past. And I think twitter had a mute function. Remember that people sometimes eventually see the light when reality hits them in the face. And we are probably about to find out reality is a bitch.
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at August 15, 2016 08:49 PM (V71z9)
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@271: "Talk radio is a medium that thrives on truth and logic. Both are foreign to liberalism."
Probably not coincidentally, neither win any political arguments, either.
Probably not coincidentally, neither win any political arguments, either.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 15, 2016 08:57 PM (rznWS)
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In addition to Social Media, the internet has also brought us our personal, portable libraries in the form of IPads, Surfaces, Smart Phones and such. Every assertion can now be immediately fact checked, and so there!
It kills conversation, discussion, debate, and argument. In the past (25 years ago) a social group could find themselves discussing something of which there was familiarity but not expertise. A conversation would ensue as various points and aspects were brought forth and debated. Shadings and nuances were developed, and it often became a very wide-ranging discussion. And everybody learned something through it. In addition to aspects of the original topic, they also learned things about each other.
Carting these portable 'know-it-all' devices around leads to an immediate fact-check on some statement, and the discussion is ended. Indeed, social media is anything but!
It kills conversation, discussion, debate, and argument. In the past (25 years ago) a social group could find themselves discussing something of which there was familiarity but not expertise. A conversation would ensue as various points and aspects were brought forth and debated. Shadings and nuances were developed, and it often became a very wide-ranging discussion. And everybody learned something through it. In addition to aspects of the original topic, they also learned things about each other.
Carting these portable 'know-it-all' devices around leads to an immediate fact-check on some statement, and the discussion is ended. Indeed, social media is anything but!
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at August 15, 2016 09:53 PM (o7l6R)
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I have never unfriended anybody for being wrong (in other words usually a liberal), but I have been unfriended so many times. I laugh everytime...another victory!
Posted by: RGallegos at August 15, 2016 10:08 PM (59GQk)
Posted by: CausticConservative at August 15, 2016 10:11 PM (5q6rm)
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I haven't unfriended anyone yet, but I have unfollowed a bunch of my really loony friends who still gush about Obama and actually say they are going to miss him.
Posted by: Hamilton at August 15, 2016 10:28 PM (TlNDs)
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I stopped going to Facebook four years ago, when some pro-gay-marriage psycho tried to go into the Family Research Center and kill everyone there, and leave Chik-fil-A sandwiches on their corpses.
A lot of liberal acquaintances who I'd previously considered friends said, basically, "Yeah, I'm totes glad nobody was actually hurt and stuff, but really, these horrible extremists are inviting such violence unto them with their hateful rhetoric. If they just held the 'right' opinions, this wouldn't have happened in the first place."
That's when I realized they would've been fine with, say, me being murdered for not adhering 100% to their views of what a "proper" citizen should believe.
I never logged in again after that.
A lot of liberal acquaintances who I'd previously considered friends said, basically, "Yeah, I'm totes glad nobody was actually hurt and stuff, but really, these horrible extremists are inviting such violence unto them with their hateful rhetoric. If they just held the 'right' opinions, this wouldn't have happened in the first place."
That's when I realized they would've been fine with, say, me being murdered for not adhering 100% to their views of what a "proper" citizen should believe.
I never logged in again after that.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at August 15, 2016 10:57 PM (0OG8D)
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Several (10? 12?) years back I had a friend of a friend shoot me an e-mail sign-up for a "don't buy gas on 'this day' event" to really SHOW the oil companies... something.
I don't recall much of the e-mail; except it was claiming this would somehow do something of value... because gasoline apparently expires in under a day and requires dumping once it's gone stale or sour or whatever they think gasoline does if they don't buy it on any given Tuesday...
Note this wasn't promoting not buying gas, just not buying on some specific day.
I told them this was stupid, pointless, and couldn't possibly be of any value to anyone or any movement because gasoline isn't stored in less than 1 day quantities at stations; and doesn't go bad. And they're going to use the same gasoline; so the numbers would average out in a day, three days tops.
On the plus side, I never got e-mails from them again.
On the minus side... I... Hm, I don't recall a minus side. Never mind.
I don't recall much of the e-mail; except it was claiming this would somehow do something of value... because gasoline apparently expires in under a day and requires dumping once it's gone stale or sour or whatever they think gasoline does if they don't buy it on any given Tuesday...
Note this wasn't promoting not buying gas, just not buying on some specific day.
I told them this was stupid, pointless, and couldn't possibly be of any value to anyone or any movement because gasoline isn't stored in less than 1 day quantities at stations; and doesn't go bad. And they're going to use the same gasoline; so the numbers would average out in a day, three days tops.
On the plus side, I never got e-mails from them again.
On the minus side... I... Hm, I don't recall a minus side. Never mind.
Posted by: gekkobear at August 16, 2016 12:07 AM (2iR3c)
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We live in an age of McNewsBites and InfoNuggets.
Posted by: Kat at August 16, 2016 01:08 AM (1HseL)
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This election exposes a lot of people for who they are. I unfriended two people yesterday I have known for almost 40 years. He outed himself a Mexican who hates white people and is sympathetic to La Raza.
Adios asshole.
Adios asshole.
Posted by: Distant Observer at August 16, 2016 05:29 AM (GcTQ1)
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I quit Facebook entirely.
Posted by: Farmer Joe, job hunting at August 16, 2016 09:22 AM (27Ws9)
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A member of my writing critique group, a founding member no less, has decided to take a "sabbatical" until after the election. She's a Clintonista (has said Granny Cankles is "competent," fer cryin' out loud), and I guess doesn't want to get into arguments with me, the Trumper, or the other guy who's a Bernie-bot. Better to "take a break" than to wrangle with us each week and get nothing done.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 16, 2016 09:35 AM (txdEq)
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a better idea: unfriend facebook
Posted by: Myshiba at August 16, 2016 10:14 AM (n20xt)
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What to do depends on goals and desires. My goal is to explore what I really think. If someone's words make me angry then the important part is to understand what is making me fearful. Everything is a personal experience and it is impossible to change a typical person's opinion when their lively hood or identity depends on not changing that opinion. Contrast to a sociopath or narcissistic person changes to whatever they see as benefiting them and sees no contradiction. In one sense changing-opinion-depending-on-current-trends is the lively hood of a sociopath or narcissistic person. eg politician or community organizer.
Posted by: The Iconoclast aka noodle nogin at August 16, 2016 11:05 AM (CRXed)
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For arguments sake, accept the Ancient Alien theory (TV show). Tie it with Arthur C Clarke's (who I read was a pedophile in his private life, don't know but I did think it strange Clarke moved to Sri Lanka) book Childhoods End.
So Ancient Aliens need watchstanders on their more mundane stations and spaceships. eg Ancient Alien sweatshops that make those fancy flying saucers possible. Solution, create a generation of humans that wouldn't be much use for anything else. Millennials not only fill-the-bill they also have the right moniker.
So Ancient Aliens need watchstanders on their more mundane stations and spaceships. eg Ancient Alien sweatshops that make those fancy flying saucers possible. Solution, create a generation of humans that wouldn't be much use for anything else. Millennials not only fill-the-bill they also have the right moniker.
Posted by: The Iconoclast aka noodle nogin at August 16, 2016 11:28 AM (CRXed)
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Yeah. I've lost bloggers, the first was some woman who supported Fioroni. Then another blog that just would not quit with Trump. He can't, he won't, he shouldn't, I'll never... I was wondering about some *cough* other sites, but they pulled their heads out. Like Trump? No need. But after pushing then pulling for McCain, Romney, even the Bushs, there is no room to complain. I don't even care if you... well... actually I do. Many wanted us all in for the wankers. Payback and all.
There are still some that are on the fence and may yet be booted. Though I have noticed they have toned down a LOT. I think they are realizing that it isn't just a few of us yahoos. It's most of us yahoos! And... I'm not even necessarily one of them, just an accountant who expects if someone wants rules one way, then they should play by them when it goes the other way.
I will dump on any who pushed and is now balking, against specific party nominees... personally, privately, publicly. I don't seem to be, at all, alone. The party is being reclarified, if I am not sure, unless massive repatriations, the wall, and airport changes, are made and massively, harshly, powerfully, it will matter. If just those who have gotten in illegally, or in truth allowed illegally (through anchor babies, a fraud of a notion), then it simply doesn't matter. America will no longer be American, but some foreign and minority run shithole, like every other nation on the globe at this time.
There are still some that are on the fence and may yet be booted. Though I have noticed they have toned down a LOT. I think they are realizing that it isn't just a few of us yahoos. It's most of us yahoos! And... I'm not even necessarily one of them, just an accountant who expects if someone wants rules one way, then they should play by them when it goes the other way.
I will dump on any who pushed and is now balking, against specific party nominees... personally, privately, publicly. I don't seem to be, at all, alone. The party is being reclarified, if I am not sure, unless massive repatriations, the wall, and airport changes, are made and massively, harshly, powerfully, it will matter. If just those who have gotten in illegally, or in truth allowed illegally (through anchor babies, a fraud of a notion), then it simply doesn't matter. America will no longer be American, but some foreign and minority run shithole, like every other nation on the globe at this time.
Posted by: Doom at August 16, 2016 12:14 PM (4JtYT)
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I admin a decently large (just north of 7000) sci-fi group on FB and we've made it policy for the last couple of years to ban any and all political discussions that don't specifically involve works in the genre. That, of course, means a lot of talk about post-scarcity in Star Trek and The Culture, but you also get a lot of great future-monarchy discussions.
On the other side, even sci-fi-themed memes about current politics, American or worldwide, get nuked. Articles about identity politics, usually about the racial/gender makeup of authors/actors/etc get nuked. My rationale is that there are a bajillion places on line to go arblegarble about that kind of crap. While hard science articles are welcomed, anything about AGW, pro or against, gets nuked. We want an island of semi-sanity to get our nerd on.
For the most part, it works.
On the other side, even sci-fi-themed memes about current politics, American or worldwide, get nuked. Articles about identity politics, usually about the racial/gender makeup of authors/actors/etc get nuked. My rationale is that there are a bajillion places on line to go arblegarble about that kind of crap. While hard science articles are welcomed, anything about AGW, pro or against, gets nuked. We want an island of semi-sanity to get our nerd on.
For the most part, it works.
Posted by: Scott M at August 16, 2016 01:08 PM (AdBfq)
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This was brought to my attention, Ace. Remember you from the old fray site at MS. Let me in to write on your wall. smile
Posted by: Joe Tiernan at August 17, 2016 10:34 AM (OOBjK)
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This was brought to my attention, Ace. Remember you from the old fray site at MS. Let me in to write on your wall. Name back then was RosettaStone. smile
Posted by: Joe Tiernan at August 17, 2016 10:35 AM (OOBjK)
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If somebody 'unfriends' you because of your politics, he or she wasn't worth having as a friend in the first place.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 18, 2016 04:44 PM (pldrX)
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"Jefferson and Adams were best friends,"
Nope. They despised each other. Politically and personally.
It wasn't until the latter years of their lives they opened up communication, and Jefferson was STILL a dick about it.
Nope. They despised each other. Politically and personally.
It wasn't until the latter years of their lives they opened up communication, and Jefferson was STILL a dick about it.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 18, 2016 04:53 PM (pldrX)
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