Bounce Back: Several Polls Giving Hillary Back Her Pre-Comey Lead

Dispiriting.

The NBC News tracking poll also shows Hillary regaining a big lead-- 8 points again.

The RCP average has her back out in the lead, with almost ever poll -- including Rasmussen -- putting her ahead.

The one poll where Trump remains ahead is, oddly enough, the LA Times tracking poll, which has Trump ahead by 2-- but you'll see from the trendlines that looks like a temporary situation.

What the hell is going on?

The only thing I can think of is the Feiler Faster Thesis that Mickey Kaus used to talk about all the time. The idea is that society, for some reasons, is reacting more quickly and convulsively to new information... but it's also forgetting/un-reacting to that information at a quicker pace too.

So, what I would think would be a big deal -- that Hillary lied and committed crimes -- did give her a knock. But then, two weeks later, the public has completely forgotten about it.

I guess this partly explains how Trump is even still (occasionally) in this race. Sure, he manages to offend broad swathes of the public with a regularity that would impress German engineers.

But then, two weeks later, the public has almost entirely forgotten why they had such a sour taste in their mouth beforehand.

There is some upside for Trump -- if the public can completely forget Hillary is an unindicted but declared felon who put American national security secrets into the hands of the Russians, Chinese, and Islamist enemies of the US in a couple of weeks, then the public could likewise forget whatever "It's a little chilly in here so let me set myself on fire for a little warmth" statement Trump has #ShockedTheBourgeoisie with this week.

Assuming that, at some point, he can stop making them.

But can he?

I can imagine a scenario where he's out in front of Hillary by 4 points a week before the election -- and then, due to his massive deficiency in impulse control, he makes some pointlessly inflammatory comment that loses the election for him by three points.

And yet, had he just made this statement two weeks earlier, he might have won. (Or, even better -- had he not made it all.)

I think the whole Kzir Kahn thing is more bullshit handwringing by puritans and prudes on both sides of the aisle -- I don't, for example, believe in this bullshit that certain people have Privilege and Status and therefore Absolute Moral Authority.

I don't believe minorities have that, and I don't believe even Gold Star families have that. Or veterans.

Never have. Didn't believe it ten years ago when Saint Cindy began giving her Sermons on the Funeral Mound, don't believe it now.

If you enter the public fray -- and if you insult a presidential candidate -- then you're fair game to be insulted back.

The guy's son was killed twelve years ago. If Trump loses, and then, in 2020, they trot this guy out to insult the new conservative challenger to Hillary Clinton -- is he absolutely protected from insult then, too?

Exactly how long does his Force Field Against All Public Criticism last, even while he himself is hurling Trumpian insults at people he thinks aren't giving Islam enough respect?

Something tells me that if Rubio is on the receiving end of his insults in 2020, Khan's Bubble of Complete Immunity to Counter-Insult will have expired.

Meanwhile, Pat Smith's son died just four years ago -- and she hasn't had five minutes of this Force Field Against Criticism.

Hillary Clinton called her -- and the other Benghazi victim family members who were in attendance, and all heard her say "We'll get this filmmaker" -- a liar on national tv.

Not a peep from the media on that.

And while conservatives did kick up a fuss about it, no one heard that, and it did not reach out into the wider public at all, because conservatives have no voice in the wider media; we merely have a ghetto where we shout to each other from our windows on each side of the street.

I think there's a bit of false consistency going on here on the part of conservatives who say "If I defended Smith, I must also defend Khan."

Did anyone in the media jump on your defense of Smith? Did they retransmit it? Did the media make a week long hair-on-fire hysteria about it?

No?

No, right?

In that case, your consistency was fine as far as your personal morality goes, but as far as your effect on the greater public dialogue, it meant nothing at all.

Let's say that some conservatives were just as effusive in defending Patricia Smith as this Khan guy.

So, total net effect of their consistency, as measured by reach/influence on the public:

5 units of pro-Smith defense
5 units of pro-Khan defense

Looks fair, right? Now let's add in the liberal contribution to the national debate -- again measured in arbitrary unit-free units of reach and influence.

0 units of pro-Smith defense
25,000 units of pro-Khan defense

Now let's add them all together, for both conservative and liberal defenses of Gold Star parents:

5 units of pro-Smith defense
25,005 units of pro-Khan defense

Conservatives' own inputs may be equal as to both, but their contribution to the national debate is so close to zero we can safely call it zero.

And outputs ought to matter as well -- shouldn't they?

Or do we judge everything by our persona intentions?

Conservatives believe in personal honor, and good for them for doing so. There really can be no public honor without a strong tendency towards personal honor on the part of the bulk of the citizenry.

But they should also occasionally look not just at their own behavior, but the behavior of the media at large.

Conservatives may be showing their "constistency" in defending both Smith and Khan -- but the ones arguing that Smith should also have a Force Field of Defense have failed entirely of convincing their liberal colleagues of this.

They haven't even made a dent.

So I'm not really sure why I am obligated to show consistency that my liberal counterparts feel no compulsion whatsoever about showing.

What I'm believing is that I should treat my liberal counterparts with the exact level of fairness, honesty, and respect with which they treat me -- and that if I show any level of fairness, honesty, and respect to them greater than what they show me, I'm not more moral or virtuous.

What I am is a damn fool and a sucker who is encouraging his own debasement.

As they say in psychiatric circles: If you're permitting your own abuse to continue, at some point, you stop being a victim, and start being a volunteer.

Khan insulted Trump. The fact that his son died twelve years ago does not grant him, in my mind, some kind of personal Grievance Privilege.

If you enter the arena, you're in the arena.

This whole idea of Special People Having Special Privileges is a leftist, progressive thing which we have aped to our dishonor and detriment by creating our own protected groups.

No, I don't think veterans should be disparaged generally, and I would object if such an honorable group were generally disparaged.

But veterans weren't being generally disparaged here - just one. And actually, no veterans at all are even involved. The father of a veteran is being insulted, after that father insulted Trump.

"You have sacrificed nothing, nothing" -- "here is the Constitution -- have you ever read it?"

Anyone going to claim those are not insults?

Sorry, I don't get it.

This is Cindy Sheehan, Subcontinental Version, and now we have our own saps giddily dancing to the tune set by the left.

So a True Conservative -- of which I am emphatically not one, I've decided, if True Conservatism is now nothing more than urban haut bourgeoisie social codes and hair-on-fire overreactions to alleged social "sins" -- will have to explain to me exactly which people they will agree with Maureen Dowd have Absolute Moral Authority on and are utterly shielded from any backtalk and counter-insult.

Silly me, I thought we were equals.

But no, the True Con position is now that some are more equal than others.

That said, sure, Trump's statement was stupid, because no statement which requires a re-examination of First Principles and constant denunciation of socially-transmitted moral panic is worth it.

And frankly, no one who has a lot of their self-value invested in the idea that As a Moral Person, I Must Overreact To Someone Putting Down Some Muslim Guy is going to be persuaded by counter-argument to the contrary.

So yes, it's counterproductive, and that's why it's bad -- because people are dumb and get excited over tiny thing, to keep them from having to stress out or think too hard about the big things.

For a larger and larger fraction of the American public, ginned-up twitter outrage is the only physical exercise or cardio they get.

And people that are actually smart and went to Wharton and know all the Best Words ought to know that: The true American pastime, the real American sport, is now moral grandstanding and shouting at people for their sins.

But no, it's not bad in and of itself.

But the Urban Haute Bourgeoisie thinks it is, and they entirely control our media (on both sides of the aisle), so, effectively, for all practical purposes, it is in fact a "bad thing."

A Brief History of the Existence and Non-Existence of Absolute Moral Authority:

2004, when Saint Cindy reveals herself to us: Exists

2009-2011, when all combat deaths are now the responsibility of War Leader Barack Obama: Does not exist (and Cindy Sheehan continues speaking out against the war, but the media is suddenly not interested in reporting on her speeches and publicity stunts)

2012-2015: when four are killed in Benghazi, and the families of the dead start speaking out: Definitely super-duper does not exist

2016, when Democrats need it to exist again: exists

Is it only me, or is anyone else getting a little sick of playing Calvinball?

Is it only me, or is anyone else beginning to feel like a chump and an asshole for participating in his own debasement and thereby affirming/validating his Second Class Citizen status?

Four Legs Good, Two Legs Better:

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— The Brick Layer (@PolicyLord) August 2, 2016

Posted by: Ace at 06:34 PM

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1 I'll have to comment

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:35 PM (rwI+c)

2 the hang up and the post

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:35 PM (rwI+c)

3 whoa total gibberish from my keyboard

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:36 PM (rwI+c)

4 "What the hell is going on?"

Well, just spit-balling here, but my guess it's because Trump is a lousy candidate who can't keep his trap shut and gives the in-the-bag-for-Hillary media every opportunity to paint him like the buffoon he is.

But, that's just my guess.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 02, 2016 06:37 PM (pldrX)

5 but at least I'm in before The Scorpion!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:37 PM (rwI+c)

6 But what does the bookmaker give her?

Posted by: Sphynx at August 02, 2016 06:38 PM (OZmbA)

7 and furthermore, the Media must be destroyed

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:38 PM (rwI+c)

8 Ace: "The only thing I can think of is ..."

Ace, just thought of another one. What if the MSM/pollsters were manipulating the polls to push a particular narrative?

Nah, you're right. Can't be that.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 02, 2016 06:38 PM (5xDis)

9 If someone asked me for a quick, unstudied opinion of why Trump is falling in the polls, my first take on it would be the unrelenting shitstorm the Democrats, media, and their social network allies have been shooting at Trump like a fire hose.

It doesn't help that Trump seems to step firmly on his own dick every forty-five minutes, often in golf shoes.

Posted by: TB at August 02, 2016 06:38 PM (UXEYz)

10 It is the corrupt media. Damn them with everything that goes with damning. Everything. Then again.

Posted by: oddnot does fret and with reason at August 02, 2016 06:38 PM (g1MTt)

11 So who killed Khan's son?

Posted by: Javems at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (yOqwj)

12 And, polling can't measure the LIV vote -- the great unwashed and emFacebooked.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (OZmbA)

13 A simpler explanation is that someone just dialed-up the Liberal bias for these polling places.

Posted by: gastorgrab at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (u6OFe)

14 not the guy who says 'Yo!'

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallflower at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (qSIlh)

15 well shit

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (qtgOZ)

16 The Khan shit is fake outrage to drive the LiV Facebook retards.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (mBYZv)

17 Curses! (snaps claws & waves tail)

Posted by: The Scorpion at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (dRRmR)

18

Hitlery?

Her clits's a Dick!

Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (qul7b)

19 I predict Taco Bowls will go to $3.00.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (8ZskC)

20 She needs L.A/S.F., N.Y. Miami and Cleveland to win the election. Denver would be window dressing. We're done at the electoral college level.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (SeD0w)

21 Push polls are lies. There is only one poll that matters the rest are all lies put out by a partisan media to push you to get on the bandwagon everyone else is getting on because you are a sheep, a follower, and you do not think for yourselves. Democrats are all gullible liars who believe anything and they expect you to be the same as them; stupid and easily led.

Posted by: Steve in Tulsa at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (rOlQq)

22 **Shoots Ping Pong Ball into Thread**

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (TjcfH)

23 I, for one, embrace our new canklish overlord.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (OZmbA)

24 Wikileaks revelations are said to be on the way. How long before election day should they be released for maximum effect.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (53PrG)

25 I still think Trumps pre Dem. Convention Poll numbers were artificially manipulated to Make Him look like He had higher numbers then he actually had.. Then after Hills coronation magically He drops like a lead balloon and Hillary gets a huge Coronation bump up...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (O2RFr)

26 But! She! Is! Vagina Jesus!

Posted by: The Media at August 02, 2016 06:41 PM (ucB75)

27 I'd like to see the demos for that poll.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 02, 2016 06:41 PM (6RCh+)

28 I predict Taco Bowls will go to $3.00.

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And burrito coverings.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:41 PM (qtgOZ)

29 >>I'm in before The Scorpion!

I will Rock Lying Crooked Hillary like a Hurricane!

Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin at August 02, 2016 06:41 PM (TjcfH)

30 WE KNOW THE DNC IS COLLUDING WITH POLLSTERS. This is in the DNC emails.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 06:41 PM (mBYZv)

31 I has a sad.

Also I had the pleasure of getting my first root-canal today.

Happy pills tho.

Posted by: eleven at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (qUNWi)

32 The country is finished and has been for a long time. We're just waiting for it to get worse, which it never disappoints.

War is coming.

I think.

Posted by: artist at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (TwnkX)

33 It's all done with mirrors, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (TjcfH)

34
Can you imagine the debates??

I have no idea what to expect.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (nyPW+)

35 More media facetime with Hillary ought to get her poll numbers down.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (OZmbA)

36 I'm going to throw this out here preemptively as I am losing my patience with anyone who wants to post stupid shit about CPT Khan like "the Army needs to investigate why he was lining soldiers up for inspection".

PLEASE STFU

It is retarded, sir. Research your shit.

CPT K was the FP officer on Warhorse. He wasn't doing an in-ranks inspection, he didn't line soldiers up. He stopped by the gate as the FP officer on his way to the hooch from pulling night shift to look over some gate improvements. Maybe 8 soldiers were there.

Sorry if sounds like I'm getting my underoos twisted over this, but this is bullshit. Being a snarky asshole is one thing, but being a snarky asshole when a guy got blown into little pieces is just UNMITIGATED DICKERY.

I expect that on the left. Its a shame when I see it on the right.
Dude went home in little pieces and got scraped off the pavement. Lot of shitty ways to go, and that's one of them for sure.
Now his dad says some political shit 12 years later, and a bunch of random internet cunts want to start implying that there's something "hinky" about his death.

FUCK YOU

PS AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON

PPS WINONA FOREVER (I love you baby, sorry for yelling)

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 02, 2016 06:42 PM (f6C3E)

37 I would advise everyone who rushes to defend anyone who gets up and speaks for Clinton or the Democrats, to wait for the wikibombs that are coming.

I don't care how sympathetic they look, or the media makes them look, or what Trump said about them, and I don't care if they won the freaking Medal of Honor and saved a entire pre-school from drowning...Just wait...

The fact they are supporting Hillary hard should raise a huge red flag, bigger than anything you can imagine.

If the story is true that disgruntled NSA folks leaked this stuff then it could really be everything...well beyond foreign nations hacking the DNC. The other possibility is Israel hacked her as well, could even have a person on the inside. That would be revenge for Obama and co. meddling in their elections.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 06:43 PM (KhJh8)

38 Excellent Post....

TRUE CONSERVATIVES!

Want Grammy to win b/c the 12 year dead Captain Khan wanted unfettered Jihadist immigration I guess...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:43 PM (SzZnW)

39 More media facetime with Hillary ought to get her poll numbers down.

Which is why it is over 200 days since She met with the press...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:43 PM (O2RFr)

40 I don't believe a word of polling, whether I want it to be true or not.
All lies; dispiriting is the intent.

Stay calm and carry on.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 02, 2016 06:43 PM (gUoN4)

41 Joe the plumber

I mentioned that yesterday

The Dems went after him with all they had and Obama was the one who went up to him out of the blue.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 06:44 PM (BS8yt)

42 25 Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:40 PM (O2RFr)

Yup, said so at the time too.

This is to embolden the NeverTrumpers and dispirit the stalwarts....

fuck that I will crawl to Ohio if need be and cast my vote in blood if need be.

#NeverHillary

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:44 PM (SzZnW)

43 The Khan thing is BS not due to the guy himself, but that it's very obvious the Dems are doing their usual emotional extortion against people who have any qualms about Muslim immigration, no matter how mild.

Posted by: Talk at August 02, 2016 06:44 PM (kog+9)

44 Khan insulted Trump. The fact that his son died twelve years ago does not grant him, in my mind, some kind of personal Grievance Privilege.

If you enter the arena, you're in the arena.

.....

But no, the True Con position is now that some are more equal than others.

--------------

Yes he is fair game, but the rules of the game are different, and in general insulting a gold star parent is not a good idea, particularly for a Republican since the press will play it up much more than they will for the Democrats. We can complain about the rules being unfair, but that is life.

A true con accepts life as it is. Is the goal to try to even the playing field or to win the election.

My personal opinion is this is dragging Trump, but that its effect will be temporary. Hillary got a convention bounce, which will also likely be temporary. Let's see what the polls say in a few weeks.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:45 PM (gmeXX)

45 Yeah no. Back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 02, 2016 06:45 PM (YzoAJ)

46

Just waiting for the casus belli, the point at which shit has gone too far.

Posted by: Rachael Gomez at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (5nOPY)

47 I am actually shocked that she's not up by 20pts at this point. Between the felon and the fascist moron.... had to pick... I'd bite the bullet and say give me a 3rd term of Obama. That's how bad this is.

This is what "we" get for not supporting Rubio. Big mistake by the base. Now paying for it. Ugh.

Posted by: CLITON at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (e9j1N)

48
A new sitcom idea:

Shirks

It's about 3 lazy sharks.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (nyPW+)

49 Peebles , I said that too.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (BS8yt)

50 The country is finished and has been for a long time. We're just waiting for it to get worse, which it never disappoints.

War is coming.

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Millennials Having Less Sex Than Their Parents

Mercy or demographic suicide?

Who knows?

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (qtgOZ)

51 Back to work for me.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 02, 2016 06:47 PM (6RCh+)

52 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 02, 2016 06:47 PM (wTCiM)

53 Just waiting for the casus belli, the point at which shit has gone too far.

For Me that was today when the sitting President of the United States tells the World that the opposing parties Candidate is unfit to be president...In all My years I have never seen that...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

54 The outcome of the election is all in the hands of the msm. The candidates will live or die by the pen.

Posted by: Bosk at August 02, 2016 06:48 PM (n2K+4)

55 Posted by: CLITON

One namers concern: NOTED!

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 02, 2016 06:48 PM (6RCh+)

56 DiT's comments the other day were bullshit. Trump had nothing to do with Khans sons death and he should have STFU.

No American should take abuse from any Sharia loving Muslim hack.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at August 02, 2016 06:48 PM (j8qpO)

57 *beep*

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 02, 2016 06:48 PM (rwI+c)

58 This is what "we" get for not supporting Rubio. Big mistake by the base. Now paying for it. Ugh.
Posted by: CLITON

Bravo! That's the funniest shit I've read in a while. My sides literally hurt.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 02, 2016 06:48 PM (UPYhp)

59 A true con accepts life as it is.

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A true con bitches about pointy elbows and looks for a conservative savior in Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (qtgOZ)

60 For Me that was today when the sitting President of the United States tells the World that the opposing parties Candidate is unfit to be president...In all My years I have never seen that...
Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

*****

Before today no sitting President has ever been low rent enough to stoop so low. Historic first!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (KcI5m)

61 These polls look bad.

Still not voting for that canckled scrunt. Still gonna vote for the one-man insane clown posse, 'cause he's not a canckled scrunt. Still gonna try to talk disaffected Berniebots into voting for him or at least the pothead.

If she wins, it's not my fault.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (YEelc)

62 I'd bite the bullet and say give me a 3rd term of Obama.

Of course you would, bless your heart.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (rwI+c)

63 CLITON sock off.

Posted by: Dr. Charles Krauthammer at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (5xDis)

64
If anyone is unqualified to be a candidate for President, it would be Hillary.

Posted by: Rachael Gomez at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (5nOPY)

65 So if trump is doing so badly and is a shitty candidate, and is gonna get his ass handed to him in november then why are the globalists and all the progressives in a pantie twisting panic....

Posted by: E.T. at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (c+7Ko)

66 So there was a 15% swing in the polls in a week? Apparently we have entered the world of Harrison Bergeron, where our preferences are governed by the last thing we see on TV.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (ppaKI)

67 47 Posted by: CLITON at August 02, 2016 06:46 PM (e9j1N)

Right CLITon.....

rewarding the left for being communists for a 3d term is the right answer to not empowering Chuck Schumer's fluffer to import millions more "newer better Americans"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (SzZnW)

68 OT BUT BERRY IMPORTANT

Oh, I now really fear computer fraud in the vote. The link in my nick appears to be a legit study on how Bernie got really, really fucked beyond the DNC e-mails. Perhaps CAC (I think, it is), the moron that does election returns here can opine on it.

Posted by: oddnot does fret and with reason at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (g1MTt)

69 For Me that was today when the sitting unfit President of the United States
tells the World that the opposing parties Candidate is unfit to be
president

FTFY

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (qtgOZ)

70 The media will hammer every topic possible on Trump (or if it would have been Cruz, Rubes, Walker, Kasich ect)and not a peep if Hillary was eating babies live on tv.
That's just the way it is.

Posted by: Skip at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (bksJQ)

71 This Moslem guy will turn out to be a chump

Posted by: Yo! at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (wTCiM)

72 44
My personal opinion is this is dragging Trump, but that its effect will be temporary. Hillary got a convention bounce, which will also likely be temporary. Let's see what the polls say in a few weeks.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:45 PM (gmeXX)

Or after the next few terrorist attacks.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

73 The polls are fixed/rigged. From what I read Trump was up 6 points or so before the Democrat convention. Nobody gets a 14 point jump from a convention especially after a yawner of a speech that Hillary gave.

Posted by: Kerry at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (RcygY)

74
Seriously, though, a tv series based on the Captain Quint character would be cool.

Just Quint. It would be about him and his little adventures in his boat.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (nyPW+)

75 "Khan insulted Trump."
............

I didn't know Trump was on Star Trek.

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (HgMAr)

76 This is what "we" get for not supporting Rubio. Big mistake by the base. Now paying for it. Ugh.
Posted by: CLITON

*****

Yeah, the people saw that an open borders slimeball backstabber was not what we needed right now. Fucking idiots.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (KcI5m)

77 Well, Romney gave a dog a ride on his car.

And Obama ate dog.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (OZmbA)

78 If anyone is unqualified to be a candidate for President, it would be ~~Hillary~~ TFG .

Posted by: Rachael Gomez

FTFY

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (6RCh+)

79 A true con accepts life as it is.

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A true con bitches about pointy elbows and looks for a conservative savior in Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (qtgOZ)

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We shouldn't accept the excuse that the media is against this or that. They have always been so. Its part of the battlefield. We have won before, we will win again. Sometimes it means we can't use tactics that the Democrats can use. We can bitch about it or accept it and do what we can to change it.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (gmeXX)

80 A Rubio troll.

Assuming it isn't an unshaven, unbathed Rubio, sitting in his own filth in a dingy room with his naked belly covered in Cheeto dust.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (mBYZv)

81
Exactly how long does his Force Field Against All Public Criticism last, even while he himself is hurling Trumpian insults at people he thinks aren't giving Islam enough respect?

Madeline Albright was once asked how long the Dems could blame Bush for all their problems. "Forever" she replied.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (IqV8l)

82
Oh, I now really fear computer fraud in the vote.

Fear it?

Hell I expect it.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (qtgOZ)

83 Who are earth are these people who change their minds as often as they change their socks?

Posted by: Boots at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (EBwPV)

84 Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:49 PM (rwI+c)
You are so nice. I just ignore them.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (eU/yZ)

85 66 Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (ppaKI)

I said that Sunday....

if America is that swayed by a staged emotional appeal fuck it, start doing your best to prepare for when we do our Venezuela impersonation and we WILL if that is the case.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (SzZnW)

86 Obama's statement today basically means all gloves come off for the MSM.

"Dear Leader" has declared Trump unfit, we must confirm this to our audience.

You will see stories everyday selling this idea. EVERYDAY

That's all they have, they can't sell Lying Hillary.

By the way, I ordered one of these..... http://tinyurl.com/zsnzrfz

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (F1iXz)

87
Computer hacking sharks.

Harks.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (nyPW+)

88 BULLSHIT !!!! These bastards are rigging the polls......

Posted by: Anti-Mary Clogginstien Not From Vermont at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (IKdgJ)

89 This Moslem guy will turn out to be a chump

Posted by: Yo! at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (wTCiM)
............

But his wife sure is hawt.

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (HgMAr)

90 Oh, I now really fear computer fraud in the vote.

Their black robed criminals are using the 4-4 tie at the SC to strip out election reform laws in the states they need.

They will steal it the old fashioned way.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (rwI+c)

91 83
Who are earth are these people who change their minds as often as they change their socks?

Posted by: Boots at August 02, 2016 06:52 PM (EBwPV)

I'll take UNC grads for $1,000 Alex

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (F1iXz)

92 Ace sez:

"I think the whole Kzir Kahn thing is more bullshit handwringing"

Well of COURSE it's a total bullshit issue. Fabricated, like all bullshit issues, out of thin air.

But the left has the media and thus the national narrative in an unrelenting headlock and can control what we discuss, and Trump walked face first into this one.

Is the media to blame for being 100% pro-socialist partisan?

Yes.

Is the public to blame for being ignorant rubes easily led around by the nose?

Yes.

Is Trump to blame for shooting himself in the foot and falling face-first into an obvious stupid trap?

Yes.

All three are to blame. The only question is: To what extent do we apportion the blame-percentages?

My estimate is:

50% media's fault
25% public's fault
25% Trump's fault.

We just have to soldier on an hope that subsequent news cycles will erase this epic blunder on his part.

Posted by: zombie at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (jBuUi)

93
Bristol Palin, the guy who forgot to tell her about his first wife among other things and waited months to see his kid, has said Trump shd apologize.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (iQIUe)

94 79 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (gmeXX)

Right we should follow the GOPe playbook like the mule domination of education and just shrug....

screw that hire private investigators and start destroying the hacks.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (SzZnW)

95 89 This Moslem guy will turn out to be a chump

Posted by: Yo! at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (wTCiM)
............

But his wife sure is hawt.

I bet She is in the head to toe shroud She wears...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (O2RFr)

96
Well, Romney gave a dog a ride on his car.
And Obama ate dog.

Trump ate a car.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (IqV8l)

97 Gaylord's been called out as Hilly's surrogate since Bill's on the verge of addle-brained death.

This allows her to keep her toxic yap out of sight and to piggy-back on Gaylord's charisma with his empty-headed base.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (mBYZv)

98 This is war. There are no rules when it comes to war (life and death). The left and the totaltarians get this. Conservatives don't and are happy to win Miss Congeniality every danm time.

Now that they won't win that, they are afraid of and upset at winning the war.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (Z+1Ng)

99 You are so nice. I just ignore them.

Giving the little tikes a pat on the head doesn't cost me anything.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (rwI+c)

100 If the GOPe holds Congress they will put an amnesty bill on HRC's desk.

They want to be done with that issue.

And then they will confirm leftwing justices which will gut 2A.

End game?

Posted by: UGH at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (TwnkX)

101 Amerika loves a crook!1!

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (Tyii7)

102 Sharks with diarrhea

Sharts

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (HgMAr)

103 Funny coincidence. CLITON was my nickname when I was equipment manager for the Princeton cheer squad. Go Tigers!!

Posted by: George Will at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (nFdGS)

104 what's also hurting TRump at the moment is the reaction of some in the GOP who are losing their shit over this Khan thing. same people who lost their shit when Trump said "Build the Wall" . Paul Ryan is starting to sound more and more like a hillary shill.

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (c6/9Q)

105 "65 So if trump is doing so badly and is a shitty candidate, and is gonna get his ass handed to him in november then why are the globalists and all the progressives in a pantie twisting panic....

Posted by: E.T. at August 02, 2016 06:50 PM (c+7Ko) "

Yeah, that's what I keep wondering about, myself.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (gUoN4)

106 The whole thing with Khan is the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard.

Let's take this idea to it's logical conclusion, then, and go full Heinlein. Only people who have served in the military, or if they are dead, an immediate family member, get a say in politics.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (ef6pV)

107 Damn, it's always Khan!

"He tasks me, and I shall have him. I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's flames before I give him up!"

(Fun fact: The 'round perdition's flames' is a direct quote from Ahab discussing Moby Dick.)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (kumBu)

108 "What if the MSM/pollsters were manipulating the polls to push a particular narrative? Nah, you're right. Can't be that."

If you dig into most of these polls they can be discredited. Any poll over a summer weekend will have issues.

The LA Times poll should be immune as they say they keep polling the same people over time. Even if this sample is skewed, it should be accurate in showing movement. The most recent one shows Hillary getting a small bump from her convention, after there had been strong movement to Trump in the prior one.

So I wouldn't shit the bed yet.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (r1fLd)

109 Count me in for whatever it takes to see the MSM wailing and gnashing their teeth.
They are so inbred with today's progressive statist democrats, it's puke-worthy.

Posted by: Taqia2Me at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (sJuKe)

110 92 Posted by: zombie at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (jBuUi)

Conversely our "leadership" could start calling out the bias every appearance period on every network nonstop..

or we could go with "Warplan Diogenes' Lamp"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (SzZnW)

111 If Assange can be believed, he says he has 17,000 emails on Libya, and these contain proof of the Guns for Jihadis program, and Hillary's involvement in it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (DW+jj)

112 Khan said Trump has a "black soul," which goes nicely with the dark theme the DNC is pushing. Which I thought was racist? Guess not.

I think Trump should own it and have a whole bunch of songs dealing with dark or black in rotation for rallies. Pay whatever royalties he has to troll the left.

I'll start the list:
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Dark Necessities
Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon
Kelly Clarkson: Dark Side
Rolling Stones: Paint it Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_Tw0w3lLA

Posted by: LizLem at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (hvf9s)

113 But his wife sure is hawt.

I bet She is in the head to toe shroud She wears...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (O2RFr)
..............

I caught a glimpse of one of her chins.
mmmm. Sexy.

Posted by: Fat Bastard at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (HgMAr)

114 Right we should follow the GOPe playbook like the mule domination of education and just shrug....

screw that hire private investigators and start destroying the hacks.

------------

Never said that. Accepting that the battlefield is this way is not the same as using the same tactics in attacking it. The same playbook to me is to whine about it.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (gmeXX)

115 Good post, and true. Still, Trump is his own worst enemy. If you know the press is against you, don't give them any more ammunition than you have too (unless, of course, you are exceptionally good at trolling).

Posted by: Caliban at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (3GFMN)

116
Someone should spoof the Clinton-Wallace interview and just make her response These aren't the droids you're looking for. Chris, these aren't the droids you're looking for. Yes, but these aren't the droids you're looking for.

Because that's pretty much what she said.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (nyPW+)

117 KAAAAAAHN!

Posted by: That captain who always says... at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (Tyii7)

118 Here's what we know now about Papa Khan

He is a lawyer specializing in Islamic immigration

He worked for a firm that essentially sells visas to rich Saudis.

His firm also has strong ties to the Clinton Global Initiative

He wrote a book, literally, on sharia law.

He has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood

So please, tell me again why this guy isn't fair game for criticism?

Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (KpRYi)

119 Personally, I believe Morton Downy Jr ought to get royalties anytime CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, et. all turn on their cameras.

That's all this is. It's all they have become. Car crashes get views. Lemonade for firefighters doesn't, because that's how society is supposed to act.

The good news, I suppose, is that at some point, the MSM will devolve into a gross spectacle of outing each other on national television, topless weather girls and midget jello wrestling.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (pUDQf)

120 Svartstorm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoMPpM9t_9w

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (DPMiu)

121 If only Trump could be more like Romney and McCain..and not fight back..

Why, he'd be a shoe, those dudes had the winning strategy.

Posted by: willy at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (Ffw22)

122 My attention span is . . . What were we talking about?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (Nwg0u)

123 If the GOPe holds Congress they will put an amnesty bill on HRC's desk.

They want to be done with that issue.

-----------

To play devil's advocate, why hasn't amnesty passed already if this is the case?

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (gmeXX)

124 We just have to soldier on an hope that subsequent news cycles will erase this epic blunder on his part.
Posted by: zombie at August 02, 2016 06:53 PM (jBuUi)

*****

The isolated incidents that keep happening should take care of that quickly, especially with Rio about to go live.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (KcI5m)

125 "What the hell is going on?"

98% of demedia is going full saturation against Trump. BB is going TheBlaze or CTH on us so that doesn't help. And of course demedia includes entertainment, education and about every other outlet that works to influence the peeps.

Ignore them.

Posted by: DanMan at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (RusNE)

126 @121..shoe in

Posted by: willy at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (Ffw22)

127 Ace sez:

"I can imagine a scenario where he's out in front of Hillary by 4 points a week before the election -- and then, due to his massive deficiency in impulse control, he makes some pointlessly inflammatory comment that loses the election for him by three points.

And yet, had he just made this statement two weeks earlier, he might have won. (Or, even better -- had he not made it all.)"

100% agree. And THAT is why we shouldn't pay much (if any) attention to polls at the moment == or ever. Trump has this election inn the palm of his hand, and he can soar in the polls or plummet in the polls based on just one offhand tweet or snarky remark.

If Trump learns to stay on point, he could overcome this fleeting poll-deficit in a flash and skyrocket to a crushing lead. And as Ace points out, he could be comfortably out front and say something incredibly narcissistic and throw it all away at the last moment.

We just don't know what he's going to do. They polls can and will fluctuate wildly up until the last moment.

Posted by: zombie at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (jBuUi)

128 If Trump would just STFU for a month until the debates, he would move forward.

Every time people see Hillary they want to barf

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (F1iXz)

129 Well, Romney gave a dog a ride on his car.
And Obama ate dog.

Trump ate a car.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 02, 2016 06:54 PM (IqV8l)
............

It was a foreign car. And he insulted it before he ate it.

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (HgMAr)

130 who had the story about father Khan being an immigration lawyer who specializes in getting visas for people who invest in American businesses? No room for trickery there, I guess.

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallflower at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (qSIlh)

131 Duke's sure fire way to win. Publish a list of politicians with their net worth before being elected and after. Then hit that hard at every chance. Hillary was X before entering public service, she's now a multi millionaire. Hairy Reid had a few buck, he's now a multi millionaire. Go down the list on both sides of the aisle and then ask how can public service be so damn lucrative without corruption.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)

132
So, Ace. This is pro-Trump. Right?

- - Sefton writing for Cliff Notes

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (9P3OG)

133 "Trump ate a car. "

But now he only eats guitars?

Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (KpRYi)

134
We're over due for a terrorist attack. All terror attacks are Hills fault since it was her and her state dept that changed the ME into an unstable mess.

About 4 plus years ago, I started reading the mid east tweets and bloggers. People felt that the State Dept had deliberately destabilized Syria and that they were moving the previous American amb in Syria to Egypt to destabilize it, too. Sure looked that way.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (iQIUe)

135 We have Trump as the nominee because the rest of the republican field refused to take the fight to the dems and instead they constantly cave in and do whatever their masters in the dem party tell them to do...

Witness TFG telling Ryan and McConnell to disavow Trump. Witness all our "betters" in the "conservative" media telling us to be more polite, gracious losers.

Many of us are sick and tired of being good losers and having our country/jobs/neighborhoods/schools/all aspects of our personal lives upended into just another leftist hellhole of fail.

I don't care if DJT insults anyone or everyone or even insults me personally, I'm still voting for him.

Posted by: Boots at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (EBwPV)

136 I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO

I TRIED to warn you PEOPLE but you DIDNT listen AND
here we are HERE WE ARE

Posted by: bluebonsai at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (qtgOZ)

137 114 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (gmeXX)

If you are on a battlefield and you allow the opfor to control the roe and what ground is trod you know what it is called?

Either a massacre or an ambush.

PUNCH THE FUCKING MEDIA IN THE GODDAMNED MOUTH.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (SzZnW)

138
Let's take this idea to it's logical conclusion, then, and go full Heinlein. Only people who have served in the military, or if they are dead, an immediate family member, get a say in politics.

Like the General at the DNC convention who all but threatened a "Seven Days In May" coup if Trump wins?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (IqV8l)

139 LA Times poll of the same people over and over again..

Do you like Trump?
NO!

Do you like Trump?
NO!

Do you like Trump?
NO!

Do you like Trump?
NO!

Do you like Trump?
NO!

Do you like Trump?

No!

Ring ring, ring ring, ring ring, ring rign, the party you are calling is out of service at this time.

"Put him down for undecided. We have movement."

Posted by: Rachael Gomez at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (5nOPY)

140 I was told, for months, that there'd be epic counterpunching against Hillary.

I'm still looking forward to it.

I do get my weekly fundraising letter from Donald J. Trump where he calls her "Crooked Hillary." Yeah, it's not Patton's cannonball run through France, but I suppose it's a start.

Posted by: Eric E. at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (7b4Mw)

141 134 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (iQIUe)

Friday is 3 days away.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (9P3OG)

142 "Trump ate a car. "

But now he only eats guitars?
Posted by: Lauren

But can he eat an entire Anglican cathedral?

Posted by: Ron Obvious at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (UPYhp)

143 Also it's not just the MSM out to slaughter the Republican candidate this time. It's NRO and the never-Trump establishmentarians. Makes the media shitstorms twice as vertiginous.

Posted by: Caliban at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (3GFMN)

144 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (gmeXX)

Fair Q.

They will say we tried it your way. We went with Trump who opposed amnesty and wanted a wall and he got beat like a dick in SF.

And they ram it through.

Posted by: UGH at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (TwnkX)

145
It's hard to fight the donks and a bunch of asshole conservatives, too. I swear if they had their way the asshole conservatives would put us in camps. l

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (iQIUe)

146
Trump likes to call himself a counter puncher but he's not because counter punchers can slip punches.Trump is a flat footed brawler who stands in front of his opponent and trades punches.To preserve my sanity i think of polls as rounds he might get hammered the first eight roundsand look like he's about to eat canvass but you sit and hope the other guy will get tired and let his gloves drop and the brawler lands some haymakers late in the fight.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (lKyWE)

147 133 "Trump ate a car. "

But now he only eats guitars?
Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 06:58 PM (KpRYi)

HATE that tune.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (9P3OG)

148

Do you think they should remake Jaws?

or remake Goonies?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (nyPW+)

149 104 what's also hurting TRump at the moment is the reaction of some in the GOP who are losing their shit over this Khan thing. same people who lost their shit when Trump said "Build the Wall" . Paul Ryan is starting to sound more and more like a hillary shill.
Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (c6/9Q)

I believe Obama referenced Ryan's and McConnell's comments in his remarks about Trump.

I really am starting to believe they'd rather see Trump lose the election so they can keep their phoney baloney jobs.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

150 I think Trump should start bringing wife with a low cut dress to introduce him like at a fight.

Stroll out with a sign, Round one!

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (F1iXz)

151 142 "Trump ate a car. "

But now he only eats guitars?
Posted by: Lauren

But can he eat an entire Anglican cathedral?
Posted by: Ron Obvious at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (UPYhp)

Very dear English friend of mine described stilton cheese akin to "biting into an old cathedral."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (9P3OG)

152 Being a Rubio troll is a lonely business.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (8ZskC)

153 If one doesn't read the paper very often-and I read the NY Post which loathes Hillary and i don't watch the news a lot of outrage just slips on by. All I read is the shrieking headline in the "NY Daily News" about Trump saying something to the dad of a Muslim soldier who was killed. I didn't follow all the ins and out except to know that Frontpage says the father is Muslim Brotherhood Supporter and supports sharia law. Trump says stupid stuff? Now That's a surprise!!!. He still gets my vote over serial liar, money launderer and entitlement Queen Hillary

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (HXQyP)

154 I really am starting to believe they'd rather see Trump lose the election so they can keep their phoney baloney jobs.
Posted by: rickl

Harumph!

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (UPYhp)

155 148

Do you think they should remake Jaws?

or remake Goonies?
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (nyPW+)

Well, the left has succeeded in remaking Jews.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (9P3OG)

156 Did we say down by 5? We meant up by 3. Margin of error, 2.8.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (q6C1L)

157 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:57 PM (gmeXX)

Fair Q.

They will say we tried it your way. We went with Trump who opposed amnesty and wanted a wall and he got beat like a dick in SF.

And they ram it through.

------------

And fair answer. I think if Hillary runs on amnesty and wins convincingly, I think it has a better chance of passing. But I still have my doubts.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (gmeXX)

158 If only Trump would do what I want him to do...

*sigh*

Posted by: fkn everybody at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (qtgOZ)

159 Now the SOCIALIST president of France says he's sick of Trump.

Shit, that does it, I guess I'll go with Hillary.

http://tinyurl.com/zrglst8

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (F1iXz)

160 118 Here's what we know now about Papa Khan

He is a lawyer specializing in Islamic immigration

He worked for a firm that essentially sells visas to rich Saudis.

His firm also has strong ties to the Clinton Global Initiative

He wrote a book, literally, on sharia law.

He has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood

So please, tell me again why this guy isn't fair game for criticism?
Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (KpRYi)

But I'm totes 100% sure his son holds different views.

That Gold Star was propaganda for the whole Muslims are peaceful and would never turn on their military brothers because of conflicts with their Islamic faith. JMHO

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (Z+1Ng)

161 135 We have Trump as the nominee because the rest of the republican field refused to take the fight to the dems and instead they constantly cave in and do whatever their masters in the dem party tell them to do...

Posted by: Boots at August 02, 2016 06:59 PM (EBwPV)
----------

Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

What Trump does is inarticulate shouting that gives some folks emotional gratification. Its louder political kabuki from a more leftist source.

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (mFkVC)

162 The polls will begin to mean something in the middle of October, and even then it will be for the trend, not the actual numbers. A whole lot of reality will happen between now and then.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (KcI5m)

163 Society made her who she is:

Duke: The lights are growing dim Otto. I know a life of crime has led me to this sorry fate, and yet, I blame society. Society made me what I am.

Otto: That's bullshit. You're a white suburban punk just like me.

Duke: Yeah, but it still hurts.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (CS7jF)

164 Now the SOCIALIST president of France says he's sick of Trump.

That should gain Trump some votes...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (O2RFr)

165 If you are on a battlefield and you allow the opfor to control the roe and what ground is trod you know what it is called?

Either a massacre or an ambush.

PUNCH THE FUCKING MEDIA IN THE GODDAMNED MOUTH.

-----------

Sven - that's fine. I just don't think this is one of those issues in which to punch them. But maybe it will work. And i'm not against punching the father - he opened himself up. I would have just done it without the "I've sacrificed too" stuff.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (gmeXX)

166
Wow. Teh Ewok really hated this movie.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (LuZz8)

167 believe Obama referenced Ryan's and McConnell's comments in his remarks about Trump.

I really am starting to believe they'd rather see Trump lose the election so they can keep their phoney baloney jobs.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

good point, and you are right, they reconciled themselves to hillary already. no doubt about it. this country could go to hell, but they, their families and friends are all taken care of regardless of who is in office.

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (c6/9Q)

168 test

Posted by: L, Elle at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (6IPEM)

169 Ace haz sadz... Then it appears that these 'polls' are having their desired effect.

Which is why they're carpet bombing the political landscape with them.

Posted by: Obakeinu at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (ry4ab)

170 157 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (gmeXX)

Well we've tried "winning the SH way" SH....

the Romney and McCain presidencies bear testament to the effectiveness of being supine to media bias.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (SzZnW)

171 So they're remaking "Pete's Dragon" .

Pete's probably a girl.

Goodbye childhood memories.

later y'all

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (qtgOZ)

172 We need a fighter! Romney didn't fight hard enough.

Trump fights. Oh No! Not that kind of fighter! OMG!

We need to quit now because teh polls sez so.

WTF?

Posted by: willy at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (Ffw22)

173 140 I was told, for months, that there'd be epic counterpunching against Hillary.

I'm still looking forward to it.

Posted by: Eric E.

By "Hillary," they meant "random surrogates the Dems push out into No Man's Land to draw fire."

Because that's who Trump is wasting his energy counterpunching against: irrelevant surrogates like Khan, Wasserman-Shultz, Cruz, Ryan, the mayor of Columbus, etc. etc.

Someone needs to sit his ass down and read him the Riot Act: Focus you fury on Hillary AND NO ONE ELSE. No one. She is your opponent. That's all that matters.

Posted by: zombie at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (jBuUi)

174 > Is it only me, or is anyone else getting a little sick of playing Calvinball?

Come the revolution, there's no more Calvinball.

That's a rough way to get rid of it but we're moving in that direction.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (h53OH)

175 People felt that the State Dept had deliberately destabilized Syria and that they were moving the previous American amb in Syria to Egypt to destabilize it, too. Sure looked that way.

Topple all the secular regimes in the ME.

Empower Iran, including nukes.

Instant Caliphate.

Barry's grand plan in a nutshell.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (mBYZv)

176 We shouldn't accept the excuse that the media is against this or that. They have always been so. Its part of the battlefield. We have won before, we will win again. Sometimes it means we can't use tactics that the Democrats can use. We can bitch about it or accept it and do what we can to change it.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:51 PM (gmeXX)

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Disagree. You cannot win the presidency as a Non-Democrat in this country, unless you find some way to attack the media and get around them to get your message out. McCain and Romney tried to finesse the media and it got them nothing.

Now you can win local or state elections that way, but when the full media gets going on one candidate it is impossible to be the nice boy and win. Look what Joe Biden did to Paul Ryan in the VP debates, look what CNN did to undercut Romney in the Presidential debate. It is a daily hammering on everything and anything. Making up lie after lie, that then is repeated over and over again in the media. Sitting there and being reasonable will get you no where.

You have only one option - Attack. The aggressor at least has the chance of setting the narrative. Yes you can fall on bombs and stub your toe, but at least you fight on your terms.

Also if conservatives truly believe the crap they say all the time, then this is the only option. Playing it safe, holding congress will accomplish nothing considering Democrat presidents know that congress will do nothing to them if they appoint themselves king for 4-8 years.

Obama proved that. If Hillary wants to just let in 25 million people (she can), ban guns (she can), set up a national police force (she can) and no judge or congress (at least a Ryan/McConnell run one) will stop her. To put it bluntly we now have one branch of government - The Executive branch.

So aggression is the only political move left, other moves that might change this situation are outside the scope of politics and elections.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (KhJh8)

177 Dispiriting.

That's how we know we chose the right numbers.

Posted by: The MFM at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (J3phO)

178 If you are on a battlefield and you allow the opfor to control the roe and what ground is trod you know what it is called?

Either a massacre or an ambush.

PUNCH THE FUCKING MEDIA IN THE GODDAMNED MOUTH.

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Sven - that's fine. I just don't think this is one of those issues in which to punch them. But maybe it will work. And i'm not against punching the father - he opened himself up. I would have just done it without the "I've sacrificed too" stuff.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (gmeXX)

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And the current polls - which are not gospel - indicate that this may be dragging Trump down. Obviously, it may be having no effect.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (gmeXX)

179 The Dems and their media sycophants: Van Helsing says Trump is a non-sparkly vampire.

Trump: I sparkle and van Helsing hates America.

The Dems: We've moved on, you non-sparkly vampire!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (Nwg0u)

180 Do you think they should remake Jaws?

They remade Jaws, as The Shallows, and it was better.

Especially because of the phenomenal shots of Blake Lively's gorgeous ass sprinkled in, and the way she resolved the contretemps with the Shark.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (CS7jF)

181 I really am starting to believe they'd rather see Trump lose the election so they can keep their phoney baloney jobs.
Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

The establishment Republicans are pathetically oblivious. Tucker Carlson remarked about this the other day on Fox News. He was saying that they really do think that if Hillary is elected, it will be business as usual for them. They seemingly have no idea that the Republican party is DEAD if Trump doesn't win. It will collapse almost instantaneously.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (H6376)

182 Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

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I've got to put on thigh high boots to wade through that BS.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (BS8yt)

183 Now the SOCIALIST president of France says he's sick of Trump.
.............

He's been listening to too much James Taylor.

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (HgMAr)

184 You say it like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: An unshaven, unbathed Rubio, sitting in his own filth in a dingy room with his naked belly covered i at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (J3phO)

185 Hey, what happened to "Let it Burn?" six months ago, you couldn't go five posts without seeing that.

Well, right now the GOP is burning, in a way we haven't seen in about 150 years.

So folks should be happy, right?

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (mFkVC)

186 I'm already tired of Absolute Moral Authority (c) Theater.

When do we get to the "OMFG! Binders full of Women" part of the campaign?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (j1Wvr)

187 158 If only Trump would do what I want him to do...

*sigh*
Posted by: fkn everybody at August 02, 2016 07:01 PM (qtgOZ)

Seriously, a leopard cannot change his spots. Trump, for better or worse, is what he is.

On the one hand, he has no governor on his mouth. On the other hand, he has no governor on his mouth.

Hilary Clinton is hated on both sides, has serious baggage that should sink anyone even with MFM cover. Yet Trump has been content to attack everyone in sight EXCEPT her. I mean seriously, and not just with appellations but with the damning honest truth.

You're fucking A right I want him to do what I want. ATTACK HILLARY ON THE ECONOMY AND HER FOREIGN POLICY BLUNDERS THAT HAVE SET THE WORLD ON FIRE AND KILLED THOUSANDS.

Or am I just being a troll?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (9P3OG)

188 Trump should make his themes this week the TPP and amnesty and hold multiple rallies in the area between Milwaukee and Chicago.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (5xDis)

189 "What the hell is going on?"
Condensed version:
The Trump is losing.

Why:
There is no way in hell that the socialists that wanted Bernie are going to vote in any flavor of a republican.

Posted by: rayj at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (pI/IV)

190 "Trump ate a car"?

isn't more accurate to say he's eaten a foreign model?

I feel so sleazy right now... tee hee

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallflower at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (qSIlh)

191 You are the first progressive president, and you screen the film "Birth of a Nation " in the white house, and praise Margret Sanger.Planned Parenthood is and always be a gas chamber for Black's. Progressive ( spit) politics are just fine killing the others.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (6Ll1u)

192 Trump could have handled the Stephanoplous question better ("I've made sacrifices too"), but MSM (and Obama) are overplaying this. Kahn may become a Hillary liability with the next terrorist attack.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (r1fLd)

193 What Trump does is inarticulate shouting that gives some folks emotional gratification. Its louder political kabuki from a more leftist source.
Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (mFkVC)

Now John Kasich, THERE's a man who would give the miscreants of the Left and the media the sternest of thrashings, verbally, of course, and always within the bounds of proper gentlemanly decorum.

He WAS raised by a mailman, after all. Quite so.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (8ZskC)

194 162
The polls will begin to mean something in the middle of October, and
even then it will be for the trend, not the actual numbers. A whole lot
of reality will happen between now and then.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:02 PM (KcI5m

HEY, cut it out with the logic. You are right, this shit now is just noise. Nothing will happen till after Labor Day and the debates.

Let's just hope Trump doesn't explode before then.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (F1iXz)

195 165 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:03 PM (gmeXX)

Trump is an idiot I have never argued otherwise but this IS the fight right now.

Had he been silent the media would have made Khan the "It" girl of the campaign a reverse Joe the Plumber....

After we lose this fall I am going to make it my mission to defeat Ryan, McConnell, and a slew of other "Republicans."

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (SzZnW)

196 Also, Trump had nothing to do with Khan's death, whereas Clinton's incompetence is responsible for Smith and Wood's deaths.

Posted by: gm at August 02, 2016 07:07 PM (0QERo)

197 He WAS raised by a mailman, after all. Quite so.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (8ZskC)

Well played

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:07 PM (F1iXz)

198 I've got to put on thigh high boots to wade through that BS.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 07:05 PM (BS8yt)
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Or you could pay attention. One or the other.

Seriously, arguing that Walker didn't meaningfully take on the Dems. Trump loves you.

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:07 PM (mFkVC)

199 I see the left putting up all kinds of "gun +" trial balloons to wedge off the female vote:

They tried "No Guns for Terrorists!" to use a no fly list to ban guns.
Really they were just testing the waters to see how people would react to linking pre-crime to gun control.

This was followed by "no crazies with guns" in trying to ban guns for anyone who's taken a Prozac.

I've lately seen a number of local candidates and State governments embracing "No Guns for Domestic Abusers" by trying to convert any kind of "restraining order" (routinely issued in family court) into a certified finding of Testosterone Fueled Rage Beater.

They will ultimately try to force Trump to take a position that they can construe as "pro domestic abuse" (opposing that type of indirect/fuzzy gun ban) and hope that enough suburban white women will join the bloc voting of hard core leftists, blacks, Hispanics and illegals of all stripes to swing the election.

And voter fraud. Yeah there'll be voter fraud.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 02, 2016 07:07 PM (k8tEg)

200 I'm watching Escape from Alcatraz. Never saw it before. Not bad.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:07 PM (iQIUe)

201 185 Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (mFkVC)

Yes, and I should have figured it would be the GOPe tossing the matches once they lost.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (SzZnW)

202 Well we've tried "winning the SH way" SH....

the Romney and McCain presidencies bear testament to the effectiveness of being supine to media bias.

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I was against both those and called out mistakes they made too. I'm calling out what I perceive to be a mistake with Trump right now. Not everything he does works. This is one of those times. Not because he chose to fight Khan, but in the words he used as part of that fight. IMO it is working against him. I've also said where I think Trump is being smart - even when I personally don't like it. So no, my way is not the McCain or Romney way.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (gmeXX)

203 So, Trump should attack the media. He seemed to do pretty well when he was calling them out. People loathe the media. Easy target. Call out these reporters. Give a prime time to the whores. Someone will take it. Then proceed to tell the truth about what they are trying to do.

Again, fucking twitter will not win an election.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (pUDQf)

204 167 believe Obama referenced Ryan's and McConnell's comments in his remarks about Trump.

I would reference the "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" part of the Constitution to establish how Obama is unfit for office.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (H6376)

205 Now John Kasich, THERE's a man who would give the miscreants of the Left and the media the sternest of thrashings, verbally, of course, and always within the bounds of proper gentlemanly decorum.

He WAS raised by a mailman, after all. Quite so.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (8ZskC)
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Cause it was Trump or Kasich! those were the choices!

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (mFkVC)

206 "HATE that tune"

It is terrible. Although maybe it's crossed over into so terrible it's hilarious and unintentionally fun.

Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 07:08 PM (KpRYi)

207 Or am I just being a troll?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (9P3OG)

Yes, and a nice Jewish one at that.
ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (F1iXz)

208 I hate that it feels like only the stuff happening two weeks before the vote will matter. This is the squirrel culture we live in.

Trump has survived everything so far, I think he'll manage the Khan kerfluffle too. Do military people REALLY believe the BS that Hillary loves them but Trump doesn't? I doubt it.

I hate that Hillary can be connected to his son's death but he is blaming Trump for it. That is some impressive mental 3D kabuki going on there.

Posted by: LizLem at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (hvf9s)

209
The only things that will sink Hillary are:

a) More leaks and Trump exploiting them

b) The debates. Hillary sinks like Luca Brasi in cement overshoes when she opens her cake hole.

Trump MUST MUST MUST attack her every minute of every day for the next 98 days.

This is it. Now or never.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (9P3OG)

210 This has been a revealing year.

I know that I won't be pulling any straight party ticket ever again.

And the writers that I will read and respect has dropped dramatically.

I wonder if these yahoos realize what will happen?

They're lining up to trash Trump and say they'd rather vote for Hillary.

And that says all I need to know about the Republican party henceforth.

Oh, I'll vote for them this year mostly so as to maybe give Trump some chance of passing some things. But next election (201

they can forget about it. I'll be beating the bushes for whoever denies they're a Republican for whatever office.

And henceforth.

Too many of the so called leaders are taking pride in dissing Trump and hoping he fails.

They don't understand that they're going to go down whether he wins or not.

And if Obama was hinting around that he wouldn't recognize Trump as President elect, well, we'll see about that. People will find out just what disobedience really means.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (ECJ+C)

211 The polls are nonsensical bullshit, do not trust or pay any heed to them.

Trump is going to win in a landslide.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is an Extinction Level Event, all things must be viewed through this prism.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (7C/kB)

212 From the WaPo:

"Republican Presidential nominee Donald Trump is refusing to back House Speaker Paul D. Ryan in his upcoming primary election, saying in an interview Tuesday that he is "not quite there yet" in endorsing his party's top-ranking elected official."

Hilarious. Trump obviously stored Ryan's wording for future use.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (nFdGS)

213 "You have only one option - Attack. The aggressor at least has the chance of setting the narrative."

Spot on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (r1fLd)

214 Politics, 101.

They bring up Kahn, you talk about the people killed in Benghazi. Retell stories you got personally from their surviving families. Make it all about Hillary's state dept.

The rope-a-dope isn't algebra.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (pUDQf)

215 1) Son dies.
2) Twelve years.
3). ?????
4) Fuck you Trump!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (q6C1L)

216 "military people REALLY believe the BS that Hillary loves them but Trump doesn't? I doubt it. "

Not if they read that viral k9 post from last week...

Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (KpRYi)

217 >>>remake Goonies?

I'm sure it will turn out to be pro-NAMBLA propaganda.
But real estate developers will still be the bad guys.

Posted by: wooga at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (YXudE)

218 161 - Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

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Cruz joined Trump in Wall-Wishing, but Trump was first with it. Cruz also comes off as rather odd when speaking, maybe it's the high pitched voice but he's not nearly the effective public speaker his father is, and his father is working in a second language and hits it out of the park.

Walker caved on amnesty as soon as his donors told him to knock it off. He was against it, then neutral, then in favor, then he finally refused to give his position.

Jindal is a great guy, good governor, but never caught fire.

Perry, well you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

Posted by: Boots at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (EBwPV)

219 207 Or am I just being a troll?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (9P3OG)

Yes, and a nice Jewish one at that.
ha ha
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (F1iXz)

You may go suck an egg, you fertronkiner ungebluzziner nebbish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (9P3OG)

220 what's also hurting TRump at the moment is the reaction of some in the GOP who are losing their shit over this Khan thing. same people who lost their shit when Trump said "Build the Wall" . Paul Ryan is starting to sound more and more like a hillary shill.

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You mean the usual suspects who flipped shit when Trump joked about the Russians and Hillz email two weeks ago?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at August 02, 2016 07:11 PM (Nwg0u)

221 Trump has survived everything so far, I think he'll manage the Khan kerfluffle too. Do military people REALLY believe the BS that Hillary loves them but Trump doesn't? I doubt it.

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No, but the question for Trump should be does this get waivers to come on board. I thinks some of the words he used which obviously the media was able to spin the way they wanted pushes waivers away - which I would think is bad tactics for winning an election. That may not be fair, but that is what I see happening right now with the Khan kerfuffle.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:11 PM (gmeXX)

222 I assume everyone knows Trump has refused to endorse Ryan, McCain, or Ayotte tonite?

Now, it serves all of them right.

But the flames are going higher, its Trump with the matches, and we're looking at a decade of Dem domination as the parties reallign.

But enjoy you Trumpy Kabuki!

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:11 PM (mFkVC)

223 One thing is clear: Barky loves him some Islamist nutjob governments. Overthrow those mean ol' brutal dictators like Mubarak and Quaddafi Duck, and Assad, and have nirvana with a popular elected Islamic govt.

Nope, those brutal dictators were what was holding the ME together. Let the popular opinion prevail and they go full GoFo nutjob.

Barky and Hilly's Guns for GoFos was part of this winning strategy that has fucked up the whole ME. And our idiots like McCain and Co were all for it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (DW+jj)

224
Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

I really like Walker at the start of this but the dude just failed to launch.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (lKyWE)

225 Damn, it's always Khan!

"He tasks me, and I shall have him. I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's flames before I give him up!"

(Fun fact: The 'round perdition's flames' is a direct quote from Ahab discussing Moby Dick.)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at August 02, 2016 06:55 PM (kumBu)

http://tinyurl.com/Khans-Last-Breath

Posted by: Sharkman at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (CS7jF)

226 How many times does Lucy have to pull the football away before you realize what's going on and quit trying to kick a football she is holding.

Unforced error by Trump . Trying to spin it away by pointing out the unfairness doesn't do anything . It hasn't for six decades. I said it before, I read a few dozen suggested responses to the Khan speech posted by the Horde. Anyone of them would have been infinitely better than what Trump chose to do. Now we are on the defense. You won't win playing defense.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (MNgU2)

227 You're fucking A right I want him to do what I want. ATTACK HILLARY ON THE ECONOMY AND HER FOREIGN POLICY BLUNDERS THAT HAVE SET THE WORLD ON FIRE AND KILLED THOUSANDS.

Or am I just being a troll?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:06 PM (9P3OG)

****

He and Pence have been attacking Hillary at every campaign stop. There is a reason you never see footage of their events anymore.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (KcI5m)

228 Presidential campaigning, in 140 characters or less.

At least Twatter accounts are free, right?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (pUDQf)

229 If only all of the Media had but one neck.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (mBYZv)

230 "Trump MUST MUST MUST attack her every minute of every day for the next 98 days."

Have you seen what he put out today. He's hitting Hillary, Obama and MSM and hard.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (r1fLd)

231 I really like Walker at the start of this but the dude just failed to launch.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (lKyWE)
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It's almost like the media chose the GOP candidate.

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (mFkVC)

232 Trump doesn't want to be President. He ran as a PR stunt and never thought he'd make it this far. Now he's scared shitless so he's gonna go out in a blaze of glory, say whatever we wants and piss off everyone in the process.

Just my ¢

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (lcUJ5)

233 Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

Yeah. Too bad their campaigns went the way of the Hindenburg.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (8ZskC)

234 Hey my 2 disappeared...

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:14 PM (lcUJ5)

235 The Khans are tools.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:14 PM (j1Wvr)

236
Have you seen what he put out today. He's hitting Hillary, Obama and MSM and hard.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (r1fLd)

You mean before the shots at members of his own party that will push that other stuff completely out of the news?

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:14 PM (mFkVC)

237 Trump doesn't want to be President. He ran as a PR stunt and never thought he'd make it this far. Now he's scared shitless so he's gonna go out in a blaze of glory, say whatever we wants and piss off everyone in the process.

Just my �

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (lcUJ5)

I've been saying this for a very long time.

But nobody listens to me. *sniff*

Posted by: Sharkman at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (CS7jF)

238 I can't tell you how comforting it is to live in a state where my vote for president absolutely does not matter.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (fn3+8)

239
You mean before the shots at members of his own party that will push that other stuff completely out of the news?

Your "concern" is noted...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (O2RFr)

240 You mean before the shots at members of his own party that will push that other stuff completely out of the news?
Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:14 PM (mFkVC)

Just what the fuck do you want? Do you want Hillary to win?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (8ZskC)

241 209
The only things that will sink Hillary are:

a) More leaks and Trump exploiting them

b) The debates. Hillary sinks like Luca Brasi in cement overshoes when she opens her cake hole.

Trump MUST MUST MUST attack her every minute of every day for the next 98 days.

This is it. Now or never.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:09 PM (9P3OG)

^THIS - He has to stop squabbling with Democrat party minions. He's go to focus the forgotten voters and not on defending himself against every insult.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (H6376)

242 230 "Trump MUST MUST MUST attack her every minute of every day for the next 98 days."

Have you seen what he put out today. He's hitting Hillary, Obama and MSM and hard.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (r1fLd)

Well, good. And I hope he pivots to the economy and jobs, jobs, jobs. As hideous as foreign policy is, 93 million of us out of work is relatable.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (9P3OG)

243 175 People felt that the State Dept had deliberately destabilized Syria and that they were moving the previous American amb in Syria to Egypt to destabilize it, too. Sure looked that way.

Topple all the secular regimes in the ME.

Empower Iran, including nukes.

Instant Caliphate.

Barry's grand plan in a nutshell.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 07:04 PM (mBYZv

Instant Caliphate with Turkey after flooding USA and Europe with Muslims

NATO is their Army.

USA uses NATO to provoke WWIII nuclear war with Russia

The Madhi rises from the conflict.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (Z+1Ng)

244 Romney was leading 49-48 in the final Gallup poll.

Pay attention to the right direction/wrong direction poll (he said out loud, hoping the campaign gods would hear him). It's way lower than it was at this point in 2012. Trump needs to keep pushing discontent and who's responsible for it.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (VxHD9)

245
Your "concern" is noted...
Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (O2RFr)

It smears its concern on the walls as much as it can.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (mBYZv)

246 I think the polls will settle down more after the kids are back in school and LIVs start paying more attention.

This is the worst pair of candidates in my lifetime.

I won't make any predictions, since all the rules are out the window this year, but I've read that Trump's electoral college path is narrow, and when you absolutely have to have Ohio, I'm not sure it's wise to keep shitting all over the guy who runs Ohio, loathsome as he is. That's just one of the stupid crazy things Trump does everyday--who can keep track of them all.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (ozZau)

247 I see Johnny One Note is out in force on this thread.

Posted by: buzzion at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (z/Ubi)

248 Seriously, arguing that Walker didn't meaningfully take on the Dems.

Walker was gone as soon as he announced, Joe. He didn't even last through the first primary.

A contender, that one.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (rwI+c)

249 As a Drudge link points out, the Khan stuff got 50 times the media coverage that the Pam Smith statement/Clinton response did.

All I can say is, get used to it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (gyKtp)

250 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (KcI5m)

Preaching to the choir does you no good. He has to get his message out by spending money. He should have commercials running 24 /7 that shows Clinton on film lying her ass off. People should be going to bed with that ear worm commercial in their head.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (MNgU2)

251 Hillary Rodham Clinton is an Extinction Level Event, all things must be viewed through this prism.
..............

Word.

Posted by: the Toilet at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (HgMAr)

252 I suggest people start going thru those leaks and republishing them. Also connect the dots.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (iQIUe)

253 232 Trump doesn't want to be President. He ran as a PR stunt and never thought he'd make it this far. Now he's scared shitless so he's gonna go out in a blaze of glory, say whatever we wants and piss off everyone in the process.

Just my �
Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (lcUJ5)

Let's say you're right (and I don't necessarily think you are).

Look up the movie "The Mouse That Roared."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (9P3OG)

254 Just what the fuck do you want? Do you want Hillary to win?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (8ZskC)

it just wants Trump to lose.

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (c6/9Q)

255 I've read that Trump's electoral college path is narrow, and when you absolutely have to have Ohio, I'm not sure it's wise to keep shitting all over the guy who runs Ohio, loathsome as he is.

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I would agree. But I guess that is just playing by Romney's rules.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (gmeXX)

256 Just what the fuck do you want? Do you want Hillary to win?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (8ZskC)
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You're right, its my fault that Trump is a moron with leftist views who like Putin more than members of "his own" party. I'll shut off my mind control ray now and issue a formal apology.

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (mFkVC)

257 It puts the concern on it's skin.
Or else it gets the hose again.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (q6C1L)

258 Question: if these polls are as bad as they actually seem, why is the GOP polling well in Congressional and Senate races? Shouldn't Trump be a drag on the ticket?

Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (c056A)

259 182 Cruz and Walker (and arguably Jindal, perhaps Perry...) took the fight to the dems in a far, far more meaningful way then Trump.

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What happened to Cruz after the shut down? In fact the whole divide in the GOP really blew up after that. He got knee capped by his own party, hammered by the media, etc. Anyone in the GOP who shows any life has it sucked out of them trying to fight both the media, Dems, and their own party.

Cruz's failure in the GOP primary had more to do with his inability to simply articulate Trump's positions better and beat Trump to several obvious positions on immigration. Instead Cruz just decided to let Glenn Beck become his spokesman. That would be a debacle on the national stage...a man who weeps at the first sentimental thing he sees.

Walker did not have it him to fight on a national stage. He survived the fight in Wisconsin, which he deserved credit, but was incapable from carrying a long war in the national campaign.

Would it be nice to have a Republican with the aggression of Trump, with better articulation skills. Yes!
But we don't, at least not yet.

Republicans have to learn to stop being "guilt tripped" by the Democrats and media. Look how Obama is trying to guilt trip Ryan and McConnell into supporting Hillary. He is doing it because he know they can be easily manipulated because they are passive and frightened forest critters.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (KhJh8)

260 While we all appreciate the sacrifice of Captain Kahn I will never as president shirk from my responsibility to keep the American People safe. Unfettered and unexamined immigration from unstable areas home to Islamic extremism pose a real threat and we have seen too many suffering victims and their families here at home.

It is a shame that the DNC and Hillary Clinton decided to exploit the grief of Captain Kahn's father. Shameful really.

Posted by: Alternate Universe Donald Trump at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (xudgf)

261 Wait.

Is it World Breastfeading Week?

Posted by: garrett at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (TjcfH)

262 222 Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:11 PM (mFkVC)

That's funny, I must have missed the terrific trio mentioned's throaty enthusiastic backing of Trump....

They *may* hold the House and Senate this cycle by inertia...if the NeverTrumper militia thwarts Orange Toupee Weasel I am voting straight ticket D in the mid-term.

I have never voted for a democrat not once, not even an unopposed democrat.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:18 PM (SzZnW)

263 Two things should be coming out of Trump's mouth:

1. Plans and policies to fix shit.

2. Why Hillary is an evil, lying piece of shit hellbent on the Iron Throne only because she wants to kill more people with impunity.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:18 PM (pUDQf)

264 >>>Unforced error by Trump . Trying to spin it away by pointing out the unfairness doesn't do anything . It hasn't for six decades. I said it before, I read a few dozen suggested responses to the Khan speech posted by the Horde. Anyone of them would have been infinitely better than what Trump chose to do. Now we are on the defense. You won't win playing defense.

i agree that when you're dealing with an infantilized, priggish public that likes pulling their hair out over nothing at all, you have to deal with that fact, and it's an error not to; but that doesn't absolve the infantilized, priggish public that likes pulling their hair out over nothing at all.

Yes, Trump erred by not giving in to Social Justice Warrior pressures. Both parties have now embraced Social Justice Warriorism and the Cult of Special Status of Victims.

But that doesn't mean this is a good state of affairs to be in.

Posted by: ace at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (dciA+)

265 "I really like Walker at the start of this but the dude just failed to launch."

He scrubbed his own launching when he decided CoC money was more important that getting actual votes.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (WVsWD)

266 and issue a formal apology

*drums fingers* Well?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (rwI+c)

267 I've been peddling conspiracy theories here for awhile, including that the real action was (1) with the Foundation's pay-for-play, not the e-mails per se, and (2) with how Benghazi was a gun-running front.

I've started reading the new book on TWA 800 by Jack Cashill. I've gotten far enough to be convinced that the investigation was spiked to ignore hundreds of eye witness accounts that differ 180 degrees from the official account.

With most of the book still to go, I can see that one of the takeaways is that the Clintons wanted to bury whatever the real cause was in the run-up to the 1996 election. So they got away with this, then they got away with Monica, etc etc. And they may get away with a lot of other things now pending. They must believe themselves invincible.

Today I discovered the "FBI guy on 4chan." Now that is some serious rabbit hole shit.

So my question, in light of all that's going on, how much tinfoil hat should you wear.

Without going full Illuminati, try to explain the co-ordination going on between the Hillary campaign and major media right now. Is it crazy to infer that Murdoch's kicking Ailes out right now isn't happenstance (if he's been diddling the Fox blondes, he's been doing it for years and Murdoch must have known about it)?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (r1fLd)

268 You're right, its my fault that Trump is a moron with leftist views who like Putin

Wait, you're not pretending Trump is "in Putin's pocket" anymore?

You dissembling stupid sack of shit.

Posted by: FOAD at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (MD1dD)

269 Preaching to the choir does you no good. He has to get his message out by spending money. He should have commercials running 24 /7 that shows Clinton on film lying her ass off. People should be going to bed with that ear worm commercial in their head.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (MNgU2)

****
I happen to agree, but Trump has done pretty damn well on his own so far.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (KcI5m)

270 I see CNN at the gym in the mornings, against my will. It's remarkable that it can go wall to wall with this Khan bullshit for two days straight now yet not find a thing to talk about concerning Hillary's FBI "pay for play" investigation in which the Bitch Queen is auctioning off American policy to the highest bidder.

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (8ZskC)

271 Just what the fuck do you want? Do you want Hillary to win?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (8ZskC)

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I want Hillary to win so bad, I'm offering my suggestion as to things Trump should be doing or not doing to bring more people into his camp.

You don't have to agree with me on it, but I'm sincere in my suggestion.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (gmeXX)

272 I really like Walker at the start of this but the dude just failed to launch.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (lKyWE)
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I supported Walker before I did Trump. Then Walker threw in with amnesty crowd to appease his donors and I was done with him. So were a lot of other Republicans.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (H6376)

273 231 I really like Walker at the start of this but the dude just failed to launch.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:12 PM (lKyWE)
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It's almost like the media chose the GOP candidate.
Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (mFkVC

Yeah keep telling yourself that and ignore reality and how the Primary was set up to counter momentum and tea party candidates.

Also Vegas don't lie and Trumps odds at the beginning were 300 to 1.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (Z+1Ng)

274 A lot of boobfeeding vids on youtube..

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (nyPW+)

275 The first rule of fight club is ? You don't talk about fight club. Stay focused you moron stay focused!!!

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (nQHw/)

276 some people are so single minded, they see Putin everywhere, they judge everything with a Putin prism...like there is nothing else going on in this country or the world....wonder what putin ever did to them ...

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (c6/9Q)

277
Let's all dutifully follow the lead of the MSM and moan, wail and despair.

If you people had ANY idea of how you sound with the gloom and doom you'd turn beet red with embarrassment.

Every single time something like this pops out the reaction is exactly the same.

I honestly think y'all are happiest squeaking about how boned we are, rather than pushing back.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (X35Yt)

278 243
Instant Caliphate with Turkey after flooding USA and Europe with Muslims

NATO is their Army.

USA uses NATO to provoke WWIII nuclear war with Russia

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (Z+1Ng)

I wonder if/when Russia uses American support of ISIS as a casus belli for attacking us.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

279
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.

Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (rwI+c)

280 >> There's a new Mass Outrage tale: Trump expelled a crying baby from his rally today

Could have been worse.

Posted by: Hawkeye Pierce at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (TjcfH)

281 About that Reuters poll showing the huge jump for Hillary... they changed the question from the previous polling they had been asking. See the sock link.

"They not only changed their formula, to put Hillary ahead. They went back and changed the results, for a week of results where Trump was ahead, and then they turned those into Hillary leads," said Caddell. "They also erased all the former polling off the site. They didn't tweak their procedure--they cooked it."

Posted by: andycanuck at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (LdMbv)

282 Khan isn't a tool, he will get what he wants, more Muzzy neighbors, Hillary gets what she wants- money to burn.

Posted by: Skip at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (bksJQ)

283 But that doesn't mean this is a good state of affairs to be in.

Posted by: ace at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (dciA+)

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Perhaps not. Life has never been fair for the GOP as compared to the Democrats.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (gmeXX)

284 Wait, you're not pretending Trump is "in Putin's pocket" anymore?

You dissembling stupid sack of shit.
Posted by: FOAD at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (MD1dD)

Don't worry, friend, Putin won't invade Ukraine.

Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (mFkVC)

285 "Pay attention to the right direction/wrong direction poll (he said out
loud, hoping the campaign gods would hear him). It's way lower than it
was at this point in 2012. Trump needs to keep pushing discontent and
who's responsible for it."

Except for the fact that Obama's favorable numbers are over 50% on the RCP average and Trump is -22.3%.

It's not surprising that a guy viewed favorably by 35% of the country is polling ~40%, even against Hillary.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (fn3+8)

286 Wait, you're not pretending Trump is "in Putin's pocket" anymore?

You dissembling stupid sack of shit.
Posted by: FOAD at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (MD1dD)

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He's a troll. Dont let him get to you. I'm not sure why they allow him to remain. His bullshit is old.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:21 PM (iQIUe)

287

Well, I, for one, must admit we have a diversity of view points on this blog.

Diversity is good, no?

So we're good to go.

Posted by: Rachael Gomez at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (5nOPY)

288 "I want Hillary to win so bad, I'm offering my suggestion as to things Trump should be doing or not doing to bring more people into his camp. "

Have you been offering your suggestions to Trump's people or only here?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (WVsWD)

289 The Bitch Queen is auctioning off American policy to the highest bidder.

She was in Omaha, Nebraska today. She's trying to poach one of NE's electoral votes with the help of C Montgomery Buffett.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (VxHD9)

290 274 A lot of boobfeeding vids on youtube..
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (nyPW+)

You should only see XHamster. Unless you're a mouth-breather from NC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (9P3OG)

291 Yes, Trump erred by not giving in to Social Justice Warrior pressures. Both parties have now embraced Social Justice Warriorism and the Cult of Special Status of Victims.

But that doesn't mean this is a good state of affairs to be in.

Posted by: ace at August 02, 2016 07:19 PM (dciA+)

****
Gotta disagree here. If ye gives in to them at all, ever, that is all ue will wind up doing the rest of this cycle. Not apologizing and in fact doubling down has gotten him this far.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (KcI5m)

292 Posted by: person at August 02, 2016 07:17 PM (mFkVC)

You didn't answer my question. I'll repeat it.

What the fuck do you hope to achieve by coming here to tell us how awful Trump is, ad nauseaum???

The primaries are over. You lost. Deal with it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (8ZskC)

293
I do think it is also people not wanting to tell pollsters they support Trump.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (lKyWE)

294 Fuck. All of the concern is bringing back my eye twitch.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (UPYhp)

295 Okay, we burned some of it at five star hotels and restaurants. Some of it we spent advance funding a bunch of social media trolls. We spent some of it on free guacamole bowls for all staffers and members of their families. But sheesh, we still got a huge pile left. Any ideas?

Posted by: Jeb's zombie $120 million campaign chest at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (5xDis)

296 I'm not sure why they allow him to remain.

It's a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, stuffed into a chicken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (rwI+c)

297
Wait, are there people here who can get to Trump's people?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (9P3OG)

298 OUCH! Go read Taranto/BTW today and the Kerry comparison. Lethal.

Posted by: Caliban at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (3GFMN)

299 What the fuck do you hope to achieve by coming here to tell us how awful Trump is, ad nauseaum???

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What's the point of commenting if we all agree on the same thing. Sounds boring to me.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (gmeXX)

300 Best thing I've read outta' Ace in a while.

So it's probably bullshit. I'll go read the comments.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (fiGNd)

301 296 I'm not sure why they allow him to remain.

It's a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, stuffed into a chicken.
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (rwI+c)

"Please! For the love of G-d!!!!. . ."

- - the Chicken

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:24 PM (9P3OG)

302 So please, tell me again why this guy isn't fair game for criticism?
Posted by: Lauren at August 02, 2016 06:56 PM (KpRYi)

The suggestion that families, or even the war dead themselves, are immutably correct regarding all things at all times is asinine. Anyone asserting as much is a relativist dick seeking to harm our military through erosion of discipline by fostering entitlement and victim mentality, or a shameless political opportunist, or both.

Posted by: 0302 at August 02, 2016 07:24 PM (hDDgx)

303 What are these "unity pledge" commercials about? Dialing a phone number and pressing "1" to say you like Trump is supposed to accomplish something?

How about spending that ad money on a commercial featuring the families of the Benghazi victims. You know, something that might actually sway voters who might otherwise vote for Hildabeast. Sheesh.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:24 PM (H6376)

304 1. The polls are total horseshit, manipulated by the dems/media/others to tell the story they prefer.

2. The public has already made up its mind and doesn't pay any attention to this bullshit.

3. Trump will win and it won't be close.

4. The Bitch of Benghazi will burst into flames.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at August 02, 2016 07:24 PM (yxupc)

305
4. The Bitch of Benghazi will burst into flames.

Or someone can drop a house on Her...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:25 PM (O2RFr)

306 You may go suck an egg, you fertronkiner ungebluzziner nebbish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:10 PM (9P3OG) fnord (9P3OG)

There's really very little I can add to this thread that anyone will listen to, what with the madness and all, but I thought I would point out this authentic frontier gibberish that the youth do not often hear these days.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 02, 2016 07:25 PM (wB8Tg)

307 What's going on? Clinton's getting a bump from the convention which everybody with a lick of sense knew would happen. For God's sake people, relax a bit. If it looks like this two or three weeks from now then you can begin to panic.

Posted by: Motorhead at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (CSCqJ)

308 Maybe the GOP civil war isn't the main reason why Hillary is winning? Maybe Trump is a bad candidate. Leaving views and issues and his personal life, Trump is awful at running a campaign. His campaign is badly organized, badly staffed with bad people (Like his veterans' advisor.), which doesn't have much money (Trump raised $50 million in June. Hillary raised about as much money in June then Trump raised in both June AND May.), and missing things like GOTV.

Then we get to Trump reacting to all attacks, real and perceived, with nuclear replies, no matter how vicious it is - which then is why he isn't winning new supporters while alienating voters who are predisposed to voting for the Republican or against Hillary. Or why you have a new poll showing Hillary trailing within margin of error in Utah.

Saying it's the GOP civil war is easy (Just ignore McConnell or Priebus covering for Trump - the Establishment has made its' deal with him.) but fixing the internals of a failing campaign is hard and necessary. Trump doesn't seem to want to do that, and too many of his supporters don't want to face that. Unfortunately, reality ain't going to go away simply because you wish hard enough.

Posted by: TKYC at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (TuhJ1)

309 She was in Omaha, Nebraska today. She's trying to poach one of NE's electoral votes with the help of C Montgomery Buffett.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (VxHD9)

will he succeed ? did he ever release his income taxes ?

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (c6/9Q)

310 "Unforced error by Trump"

Yes. What's worse is the utterly dreary predictability of the thing.

The instant I heard the Khan comments, I immediately knew what would happen. Trump, instead of discreetly ignoring them, would respond to insults in his own inimitably insulting way. The media would then feign noisy gasps of shock horror over Trump insulting the _bereaved family of a dead war hero_, and the establishment GOP would then jump in to take nut shots at their own party's nominee, and that several entire news cycles would get completely burned up on this nonsense. Trump playing defense at a time when offense was required.

Aaaaaannnnnnd... right down the line. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (noWW6)

311 Or someone can drop a house on Her...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:25 PM (O2RFr)

Works for me, Donna.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (yxupc)

312 I've been saying this for a very long time.

But nobody listens to me. *sniff*
Posted by: Sharkman at August 02, 2016 07:15 PM (CS7jF)

It's just so laughably, painfully obvious to me now. Oh well. The USA had a good run.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (lcUJ5)

313 Wait, are there people here who can get to Trump's people?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (9P3OG)

Trump is on Twitter correct? How hard can it be to tweet a link? How hard can it be to find a email for the Trump Campaign? Great America Pac? So forth.

Send you ideas to the Trump Campaign directly. How many more people are you bringing in by stating your wisdom here.

Why won't you share it with the right people?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (WVsWD)

314
You should only see XHamster. Unless you're a mouth-breather from NC.

Well, the youtube vids are educational and instructional, not pornography.

/nods

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (nyPW+)

315 >> There's a new Mass Outrage tale: Trump expelled a crying baby from his rally today
.............

Did he carry it out under one arm and a shotgun in the other?

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (HgMAr)

316 It really was douchy for Obama to call Trump "unfit" and "unqualified." Remember back in '12 when Romney and/or his advisers told him not to personally attack Obama on the basis that doing so would alienate and insult all the people who voted for him? Or something like that.
Now Obama has just insulted probably 35-40% of the electorate and about 75-80% of Republican voters and no one in the media thinks this is a bad thing. No one questions Obama because he said something that they all agree is true anyway.
But telling almost half the electorate that they are brain dead for voting or planning on voting for one of the two major party's presidential candidates is totes cool.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (HTCo+)

317 If it looks like this two or three weeks from now then you can begin to panic.
Posted by: Motorhead at August 02, 2016 07:26 PM (CSCqJ)

Exactly. Summer ends, families get back to normal life and they start paying more attention.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (ozZau)

318 Well, this is exactly what I expected from a Trump candidacy. Yeah, the guy is hugely successful (though the real numbers have been questioned since the early 90s) but he is an unmitigated asshole. A lot of very successful people are, so long as they're in positions where they can get away with it. Steve Jobs was another major asshole, though in a different manner than Trump.

Last night I saw a bit where somebody noted Trump criticizing the NYT for not 'writing good.' The Zoolander joke just wrote itself from there. A real estate developer can get away with this kind of thing, even be weirdly liked for it. But a President?

At this point, it seems more likely Hillary will have a seizure on live TV than Trump will go another week without providing the press with yet another shitstorm opportunity. If Hillary can function long enough to do a debate, I cannot imagine it going well for Trump. Regardless of whether the policy is good or bad, she'll rattle off the numbers and details while he has none and looks like a barroom blowhard. She'll reference specific events while he'll bring up vague anecdotes. She could advocate for pretty much anything and all LIVs will remember is she looked competent while he did not.

I feel so fucking trapped right now.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (IdCqF)

319 Posted by: 0302 at August 02, 2016 07:24 PM (hDDgx)

If one continues to ignore the reality of politics and how Americans loath a bully , one will continue to drop in the polls whether one is correct or not.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (MNgU2)

320 291 Gotta disagree here. If ye gives in to them at all, ever, that is all ue will wind up doing the rest of this cycle. Not apologizing and in fact doubling down has gotten him this far.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:22 PM (KcI5m)

The problem is that he commits unforced errors and more importantly is off-message. Look, this momzer Khan is a witting confederate or unwitting dupe. Mr. Trump and his team should be well aware of George Stepha-fucking-nopoulos by now as well as the rest of the MFM.

I think he is really believing the shoot-someone-on-5th-Avenue-schtick. But it's wearing thin, even with him.

STICK. TO. ATTACKING. HILLARY. AND. OBAMA.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (9P3OG)

321
It's a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, stuffed into a chicken.

...attached to a shark.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at August 02, 2016 07:28 PM (nyPW+)

322 315 >> There's a new Mass Outrage tale: Trump expelled a crying baby from his rally today

And He ate KFC with a knife and fork instead of picking it up!

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:28 PM (O2RFr)

323 It's a battle!

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-word-sacrifice-is-in-issue-this.html

Dickheads.

Posted by: Swami at August 02, 2016 07:28 PM (6ASoY)

324 >>It doesn't help that Trump seems to step firmly on his own dick every forty-five minutes, often in golf shoes.
Posted by: TB

Step on it? Shit I river dance on that puppy.

Posted by: The Donald at August 02, 2016 07:28 PM (c7vUv)

325 did he ever release his income taxes ?

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See here is an example where I think Trump is being smart. I am so tired of the game that your tax returns should be public just because you are running for office. I encouraged Trump not to release them, and still do. Obviously, it also allows him to say to Hillary release your speeches. And I don't think the general public really cares about this.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (gmeXX)

326 What's the point of commenting if we all agree on the same thing. Sounds boring to me.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (gmeXX)

I wasn't talking about you. You're lovely.

(You ARE an 'ette, right?)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (8ZskC)

327 313 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (WVsWD)

A) I don't do Twitter.

B) Every time I state my concern I get attacked for being a concern troll.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (9P3OG)

328 Aaaand scrolling back a few pages, it is time to effing scarper.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (wB8Tg)

329 Democrats are masters of the guilt trip, and Khan was the classic guilt trip.

Dems knew the Republicans as a whole are easy to stiff for another $1,000.00 after a good sad sob story.

So...

(1) Khan attacks Trump while telling is sob story
(2) Trump did what Trump is born to do
(3) Dems yell heartless, monster
(4) the GOP gives them another check
(5) GOP attacks Trump

Same thing in the Government shut down.

(1) Obama demands we run up the credit card more
(2) Cruz and Co. shuts the government down to get a credit limit.
(3) Dems yelled heartless
(4) GOP folded into a crying mess and hands another check out
(5) GOP crushes Cruz

Thus the cycle repeats, and repeats, and one day you wake up and realize your house is gone, and you are in a forced sensitivity training camp.

Congrats...the endgame of modern conservatism.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (KhJh8)

330

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (tEDMc)

331 "Yes, Trump erred by not giving in to Social Justice Warrior pressures.
Both parties have now embraced Social Justice Warriorism and the Cult of
Special Status of Victims."

He's ostensibly been a leader and deal maker for 40+ years. Whatever the zeitgeist, shouldn't a man who claims to be a global power broker be able to respond to criticism from a fallen veteran's family in a non-retarded way?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (fn3+8)

332 Posted by: JoeF. at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (HTCo+)

I think Obama helped Trump by his comments for that very reason.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (MNgU2)

333 Wait, are there people here who can get to Trump's people?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (9P3OG)
*****
I used to before the arm bruiser got fired. I have Hope Hicks contact info

Posted by: L, Elle at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (6IPEM)

334 230 "Trump MUST MUST MUST attack her every minute of every day for the next 98 days."

Have you seen what he put out today. He's hitting Hillary, Obama and MSM and hard.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:13 PM (r1fLd)

Again, I believe Events (by which I mean bad things, things I do NOT want to happen but will happen because the Western World has had its' head up its' ass for years and would rather focus on trivial bullshit then existential threats) will overtake all of this horseshit the media loves to obsess on.

There will be more terrorist attacks, more vicious shootings of cops. My place of employment laid off 50 people last week, while I was out on medical leave. 50 - including a dear man who worked like a dog for them for 35 years. 3 years away from retirement and the guy was out the door in 24 hours. Oh, and he had eye surgery scheduled yesterday.

How do you think that dude feels, sitting around with a bandage over his eye, knowing he's an unmarketable commodity at 62? You think he gives a shit about Trump's wife posing nude or that Trump offended this or that person? Do you think he's comforted when King Putt comes out and talks about how great the economy is? He's a mild-mannered man, but I'm sure he's saying f you and wtf and what the hell did playing by the rules, showing up on time, working OT and hardly ever calling in sick get me? He feels like a damned sap.

My neck might end up on the chopping block soon enough - because it's the people with seniority who are going. We cost too much benefit-wise. I don't think that's an unusual story in Obama's America. ask everyday people if they think the economy is great - ask the young, ask the old. They know it's not. The young haven't put 2 and 2 together which is why they're dumb enough to vote Bernie. The older people? Somehow I don't think they're buying this media happy talk.

Again - the media is playing the 2012 playbook because it worked like a charm for them then - why wouldn't they? But The Gods of the Copybook Headings are starting to make a little noise - and Pants Suit isn't equipped to deal with them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white and partaker of the Friday Night Fish Fry - I'll have the cod, please. at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (P8951)

335 B) Every time I state my concern I get attacked for being a concern troll.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (9P3OG) fnord (9P3OG)

We Are All Trolls Now, apparently.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (wB8Tg)

336 It really was douchy for Obama to call Trump "unfit" and "unqualified."

------------

Trump should be glad Obama did this. It has given Trump a huge (as he would say) opening to go off on Obama.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (gmeXX)

337 I don't see anyone flipping out about the polling difference. But I do sense people would like Trump to go be the fighter he was built up to be. As promised, the Death Star is in full attack mode. It began the moment Hillary got the coronation. All the forces are coming out of the woodwork to attack him, more than he can possibly respond to. I've seen more negative articles against Trump in the last week than I have in all the primaries. People were storing this shit up, waiting for a coordinated attack command.

So here we are, hoping Trump would be the guy to counter the media narrative, and instead he's giving them ammo with unforced errors.

That's the problem, not the polls.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (pUDQf)

338 STICK. TO. ATTACKING. HILLARY. AND. OBAMA.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:27 PM (9P3OG)

****

As I mentioned earlier, he and Pence are doing this several times a day.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (KcI5m)

339 Anyone remember CAC's article in National Review about Pennsylvania? Read the line where Hillary is already running ads aimed at working class white voters (Where Trump does best at.) - simply to keep them from voting Trump. Hillary is running her campaign to win and she's doing the hard little details as well as the big things to do so. Trump isn't.

Posted by: TKYC at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (TuhJ1)

340 That Dorothy killed the witch with a bucket never sat well with me. Deus Ex Mopina.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (q6C1L)

341 336---and he should take it if for no other reason that Obama is weirdly obsessed with Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (HTCo+)

342 Does shooting their "officer" include the Commander in Chief?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (ej1L0)

343 I'm sure the anti-endorsement of the President who's generally despised by the GOP rank and file, and who's more disliked than disliked by independents, is going to influence the outcome.

I'm trying to recall if W opined on the state of the 2008 race or the qualifications of the junior senator from the most corrupt state in the north.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (VxHD9)

344 I wasn't talking about you. You're lovely.

------

I know you weren't responding directly to me. I was just sticking up for the idea that we can have some differing opinions around here and debate them out - even if we are just beating a horse that has long been dead.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (gmeXX)

345 There's a certain freedom in saying things you are not allowed to say.
And there is a greater freedom in allowing others to say what you would never say.

If words cannot be spoken, then soon, thoughts cannot be allowed to be thought.

And accusing someone of a thought-crime is the perfect accusation: It needs no proof, no witnesses, no evidence whatsoever--merely the accusation is enough.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (77emZ)

346 331 Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (fn3+

There's nothing retarded about attacking a guy shilling for the c*nt who called Susan Smith a liar....

nothing at all, I notice not ALL Gold Star Families are equal....

the ones from the .0023333333333% of US War Dead are somehow extra fucking magical.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (SzZnW)

347 340
That Dorothy killed the witch with a bucket never sat well with me. Deus Ex Mopina.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (q6C1L)

She should have used a machete.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (yxupc)

348 And He ate KFC with a knife and fork instead of picking it up!
............

and a Snickers bar for dessert!

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (HgMAr)

349 We won Miss Congeniality!!!!!1111!!!!!1!!!!11

Posted by: Romney/Ryan 2012 at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (Z+1Ng)

350 338
As I mentioned earlier, he and Pence are doing this several times a day.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (KcI5m)

Well, I feel better. I think.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (9P3OG)

351
My dad was a WWII vet and my mom and dad were gold star parents (my oldest brother who i barely remember was killed in Vietnam) and they never thought their opinion on politics mattered anymore than anyone elses.So Kahn really put me off

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (lKyWE)

352 And He ate KFC with a knife and fork instead of picking it up!

--

Bought KFC for dinner. It's just me hubby kid. I could have bought a bucket with a coupon but the kid has a new aversion to chicken with bones now. So I buy strips and a box of chicken which costs as much as a bucket with coupon.
Kid has a ways to go before she can be a great American.
Sad.

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (7lVbc)

353 See here is an example where I think Trump is being
smart. I am so tired of the game that your tax returns should be public
just because you are running for office. I encouraged Trump not to
release them, and still do. Obviously, it also allows him to say to
Hillary release your speeches. And I don't think the general public
really cares about this.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (gmeXX)
ok, but i was talking about Warrent Buffet there, who asked DJT to release his. I personally want to see Buffets more than DJT's

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (c6/9Q)

354 I know you weren't responding directly to me. I was
just sticking up for the idea that we can have some differing opinions
around here and debate them out - even if we are just beating a horse
that has long been dead.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (gmeXX)

Stop kicking me, Wilbur.

Posted by: Mr Ed at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (yxupc)

355 342 Does shooting their "officer" include the Commander in Chief?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (ej1L0)

Well played, hirsute gentleman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (9P3OG)

356 348 And He ate KFC with a knife and fork instead of picking it up!
............

and a Snickers bar for dessert!

The KFC story was actually a real story...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (O2RFr)

357 B) Every time I state my concern I get attacked for being a concern troll.

You ain't no damned troll. Hell ... you've spent more time taking a shit between posts than I've spent lurking.

Now - quit getting all ass-hurt, give a good fuck you to those calling you a troll - and say what's on your mind.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (fiGNd)

358 Yeah, it's frustrating that there are different rules for attacking Gold Star parents, depending on whether the person attacking has a D or an R after his name. Completely unfair.

But those are the rules of the game. We can bitch about them. We can work the refs to try to get them to change the rules. But what we can't do is ignore the reality of the rules.

Some fans believe that the NFL protects its favored players with generous penalty calls. Let's assume that late hits on Tom Brady or Peyton Manning are flagged at a higher rate than other QBs. What do you do about that?

Well, what you *don't* do is continue to hit Brady/Manning after he releases the ball. You don't continue to do the thing that you know is going to be penalized. It doesn't matter that your team has Jay Cutler under center and no one gives a shit how late you hit him. You still don't hit Brady or Manning late.

You accept that the deck is stacked against you, and you adjust. You tell your pass rushers to dial it back. You drop more guys into coverage. You go with your second-best game plan because your best game plan is thwarted by the refs.

Conservatives need to accept that the deck is stacked against them here. Khan gets to say what he wants about Trump. Sheehan gets to say what she wants about Bush. Those are the rules. You either adapt your game plan to this reality, or you get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct.

This should have been a one-day story. Trump has made it a five-days-and-counting story. All because he either doesn't know the rules or is too stubborn to adapt to them.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (I7SKu)

359 B) Every time I state my concern I get attacked for being a concern troll.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (9P3OG)

Not by me. I will call you lazy if you don't at least try and find an email for the Trump Campaign.

BTW, my comment was not directed towards you J.J.

Your "concern" has been

[X] noted for some time now.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (WVsWD)

360 They *may* hold the House and Senate this cycle by inertia...if the NeverTrumper militia thwarts Orange Toupee Weasel I am voting straight ticket D in the mid-term.

I have never voted for a democrat not once, not even an unopposed democrat.

_______

I voted for a Democratic County Judge once. I had a civil case in her court and thought she'd been fair to me. Otherwise, in 24 years of going to the polls I've never voted Democrat.

However, if Trump doesn't win, I will take great pleasure in voting Democrat against some of these GOP hacks & prissy puritans who Nevertrumpers adore. It'll be fun.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (H6376)

361

I am unconcerned. If Trump gets elected, we're going to catch hell.

If Hillary is elected we are going to catch hell.

If Obama pulls the meglamania Emperor of the Planet stuff, we're going to catch hell.

No matter who the Electoral College picks we're going to court.

If some one of the candidates dies before, during, or after the election, we're going to catch hell.

So, knowing that we're on the road to hell, I'm happy knowing what is in our future. Like Chuck Berry sings, 'we riding that down bound train'

It's good to know the future.

Posted by: Rachael Gomez at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (5nOPY)

362 It's just me hubby kid.

So... you're a Cockney Lannister?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (lcUJ5)

363 Well argued Ace, plus UHBs!

Posted by: Grandmalcaesar at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (LbbJZ)

364 I could poll a hundred people right now that would give mister t a twenty point lead....

would you write about it?

Posted by: model_1066 at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (XDTes)

365 298 OUCH! Go read Taranto/BTW today and the Kerry comparison. Lethal.
Posted by: Caliban at August 02, 2016 07:23 PM (3GFMN)

99% of the WSJ is behind a pay wall these days, so no.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (RyJWo)

366 351 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (lKyWE)

Remember, without the MFM and Democrats, there would be no Khan Sr.

And I am saddened for your loss, sir.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (9P3OG)

367 >>>363 Well argued Ace, plus UHBs!

wilt stilman ftw

Posted by: ace at August 02, 2016 07:34 PM (dciA+)

368 Sporks will rule the planet

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 07:34 PM (6Ll1u)

369 Ace Johnson is right!

Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at August 02, 2016 07:34 PM (/tuJf)

370 Reuters, who just retroactively "corrected" their previous polls to turn Trump's lead into a loss?

I found he claim hard to believe, but sure enough they're loud and proud about it. They seem to be positioning themselves to be the official provider for all our DNC-approved poll results.

Posted by: GalosGann at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (md1b/)

371 359 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (WVsWD)

At this stage of the game, my concern does not mean trolling but honest to G-d fear that Hillary will win.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (9P3OG)

372
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (9P3OG)

Thanks he was ten years older than i am so i have few memories of him

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (lKyWE)

373 "Trump, instead of discreetly ignoring them, would respond to insults in his own inimitably insulting way. The media would then feign noisy gasps of shock horror over Trump insulting the _bereaved family of a dead war hero_, "

From what I saw, it didn't play exactly that way. Papa Khan gave his convention speech and then gave interviews for two days which got replayed a lot. Then Trump flubbed Stephanopolous. MSM continullay mischaractized Trump's statement.

It was like when MSM called Trump a racist for not denouncing David Duke loudly enough.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (r1fLd)

374 It's just me hubby kid.

So... you're a Cockney Lannister?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (lcUJ5)

-------
Trump stole me ampersands!!!!

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (7lVbc)

375 At the very, very, VERY least, Trump needs to be running a competent, professional campaign, not sidetracking on insults or using Star of David in his tweets. I WANT Trump to run a competent professional campaign to panic the left.

He's not doing that.

Posted by: TKYC at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (TuhJ1)

376 369
Ace Johnson is right!

Posted by: JackStraw Johnson at August 02, 2016 07:34 PM (/tuJf)

But is Ace's Johnson snipped?
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Mel Brooks at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (yxupc)

377 The KFC story was actually a real story...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (O2RFr)
............

So was the Snickers bar.

Posted by: Mr. Pitt at August 02, 2016 07:36 PM (HgMAr)

378 360 Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (H6376)

Change your registration and start pushing for the most bugfuck nuts donk running....preferably La Raza types.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:36 PM (SzZnW)

379 If Trump didn't say stupid shit the Journalisters would just pretend shit he said was stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:36 PM (j1Wvr)

380 377 The KFC story was actually a real story...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:32 PM (O2RFr)
............

So was the Snickers bar.

Seriously? I missed that...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:36 PM (O2RFr)

381 Trump needs to eat chik fil A next

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (7lVbc)

382 This should have been a one-day story. Trump has made it a five-days-and-counting story. All because he either doesn't know the rules or is too stubborn to adapt to them.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (I7SKu)

Or, how about this. "Trump, like Obama, is a thin-skinned narcissist." He just *has* to respond to any criticism or insult, no matter how slight. He's like a fapping bonobo who just can't leave it alone.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (RyJWo)

383 325 did he ever release his income taxes ?

------------

See here is an example where I think Trump is being smart. I am so tired of the game that your tax returns should be public just because you are running for office. I encouraged Trump not to release them, and still do. Obviously, it also allows him to say to Hillary release your speeches. And I don't think the general public really cares about this.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:29 PM (gmeXX)

I don't care about it. When did it get started that a candidate has to release his tax returns?

Obama never released his college transcripts. Bill Clinton didn't release his medical records (I recall speculation that they would show evidence of cocaine use). I couldn't care less if Trump doesn't release his tax returns.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

384 I got nothing to say.

Posted by: josephistan at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (7qAYi)

385 Trump made a baby cry then threw it out of the stadium.

Home run.

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (7lVbc)

386 381 Trump needs to eat chik fil A next
Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (7lVbc)

malt liquor and purple drank.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (XDTes)

387
At this stage of the game, my concern does not mean trolling but honest to G-d fear that Hillary will win.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (9P3OG)

No shit. I knew Trump was douchy going into it. But was told not to worry. He had fuck you money and could play the MSM like bongos. We needed the guy who had brass balls, remember?
Well, it's round one, and Trump is getting pummeled. Plenty of fights have been lost in round one. Just hope his campaign advisors have some strategies beyond speaking to the choir and twitter snark.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (pUDQf)

388 Hillary gaffes more than Trump, despite her best efforts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (q6C1L)

389 You know ... sometimes ... I think the difference between some of us is just the amount of shit we've got stored.

Politics pisses me off plenty ... but it does not scare me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (fiGNd)

390 The only way I see Trump winning this is by default, if HRC's poor health catches up with her.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (lcUJ5)

391 ace, when this non-event first "happened" I commented a very condensed version (sort of) of your rant above about moral authority.

No human being has moral "authority". The authority is in the MORALITY itself. Period.

Or, in discussions of public policy, the argument being made - it rises or falls on its merits. Who happens to mouth it is completely irrelevant.

Anyway, it saves electrons to look at it that way. It's the analysis I've had since the very first time I ever heard the phrase "moral authority" (long long before Cindy Sheehan).

OK yeah so "but PR/emotional/political edge" vs. logic. No problem, in this case.

"Mr Khan supports a candidate who played a large direct role in squandering the sacrifice his son made, a candidate who also, along with her party, has only two approaches to the constitution: shred it, or ignore it."

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 07:38 PM (QDnY+)

392 342 Does shooting their "officer" include the Commander in Chief?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:31 PM (ej1L0)

~~~

Or CPT Kahn for that matter.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (j1Wvr)

393 >>Trump needs to eat chik fil A next

I read that as nest. Which sounded weird.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (/tuJf)

394 382 Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:37 PM (RyJWo)

Thank God nobody in the GOP is pointing out it is a funny time for the media to SUDDENLY start noticing candidate narcissism and sociapathy...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (SzZnW)

395 >>>Bounce Back: Several Polls Giving Hillary Back Her Pre-Comey Lead

Dispiriting.<<<

Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.

Posted by: Cankles campaign commercial at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (H9MG5)

396 So was the Snickers bar.

Seriously? I missed that...

Posted by: donna at August 02, 2016 07:36 PM (O2RFr)
............

It was on Seinfeld, sorry.

Posted by: wth at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (HgMAr)

397
Just saw that Trump declines to endorse Ryan or McCain for reelection.

Would be great if he endorsed Kelli Ward and Ryan's opponent (forgot his name). But it's a positive.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:39 PM (9P3OG)

398 Conservatives need to accept that the deck is stacked against them here. Khan gets to say what he wants about Trump. Sheehan gets to say what she wants about Bush. Those are the rules. You either adapt your game plan to this reality, or you get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct.

This should have been a one-day story. Trump has made it a five-days-and-counting story. All because he either doesn't know the rules or is too stubborn to adapt to them.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:33 PM (I7SKu)

Hmmm...what if the rules are SO stacked against you cannot win by playing within the rules?

That is the current situation. Once again the people who want to play it safe and accept the rules had their chance...Twice. Should we try it that way a third time, or a fourth, or a fifth?

That is reality, and some people are slow to accept it.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (KhJh8)

399 Well, it's round one, and Trump is getting pummeled. Plenty of fights have been lost in round one. Just hope his campaign advisors have some strategies beyond speaking to the choir and twitter snark.

----------

Despite all that, I still think he will win ... because Hillary is the most unlikable candidate ever. Trump may be #2, but Hillary is in a league of her own.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (gmeXX)

400 At this stage of the game, my concern does not mean trolling but honest to G-d fear that Hillary will win.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (9P3OG)

*****
The problem is that you are talking to us like you should be talking to his campaign. Pretty sure Trump and his staffers don't read the comments here. Send it their way, seriously.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (KcI5m)

401
OH SHIT:

DID YOU KANSAS MORONS GET OUT AND VOTE FOR HUELSKAMP???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (9P3OG)

402 Just a quick aside, I'm running for County Commissioner in a small (population) county. The polls close in less than half an hour and I should know results by 9:00. I'm dying! Just wanted to commiserate a bit lol.

Posted by: tonynoboloney at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (Yba/s)

403 STROKE 2016

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (MNgU2)

404 I see the bogus polls are having their discouraging effect.

Best stay home on election day and let her win by half a percent.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (QdAXQ)

405 402 Just a quick aside, I'm running for County Commissioner in a small (population) county. The polls close in less than half an hour and I should know results by 9:00. I'm dying! Just wanted to commiserate a bit lol.
Posted by: tonynoboloney at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (Yba/s)

Can we bribe you for something if you win?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (9P3OG)

406 The stakes of the election are even higher now, because a Trump loss is going to turn the GOP into Dhimmies led by Paul Ryan. The GOP will giver Hillary everything she wants for at least a year. I hope the never trumpers aren't immune to the PC nightmare coupled with terrorism run amuck in the years following an elected Hillary. They will have helped big time.

Posted by: Kyle Smith at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (Mw7bJ)

407 A bit off topic, but what sort of chance do you guys give Paul Ryan losing his primary against Paul Nehlen?

If Ryan loses, I think some of these GOP virtue signalling hacks might be deterred from further sabotaging our nominee.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (H6376)

408 I actually don't think Trump is a bad candidate, he fights similarly to the way Rudy fought Dinkins in 89' and 93'

In retrospect he's no better or worse than the Bush's, Dole, McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7C/kB)

409 Posted by: tonynoboloney

Good luck!

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7lVbc)

410 Look folks, it's gonna be a really bumpy road to November.

Just a few days ago, I was ecstatic because Trump seemed to stolen Hillary's thunder with that great press conference he did during the DNC convention. A few days and one Khan (and foot in the mouth trump response) and it looks bleak again.

Jeez, if we don't accept that we are going to see wild zig-zagging in the polls, and that the MSM is going to go all out to defeat Trump (wasn't that predicted long ago?) we'll all be in the loony bin by voting day.

Trump needs to stay on message attack Hill relentlessly and (hardest of all) stop saying digging the hole deeper when he says something dumb. Don't apologize, Don, never do that, but don't double down on stupid either.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white and partaker of the Friday Night Fish Fry - I'll have the cod, please. at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (P8951)

411 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:35 PM (9P3OG)

Don't know what to tell you J.J.

I'm still actively recruiting Knights for my Barony. Looting and pillaging skills are a plus but we will teach.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (WVsWD)

412 Despite all that, I still think he will win ...
because Hillary is the most unlikable candidate ever. Trump may be #2,
but Hillary is in a league of her own.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (gmeXX)

I hope so. Obama was a nightmare. Hillary is the death knell.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (pUDQf)

413 Or, how about this. "Trump, like Obama, is a thin-skinned narcissist." He just *has* to respond to any criticism or insult, no matter how slight. He's like a fapping bonobo who just can't leave it alone.
Posted by: OregonMuse
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but we've found a politician with thinner skin than Obama.

Obama had enough discipline not to pick a fight with Clint Eastwood when he did his empty chair routine.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (I7SKu)

414 by: tonynoboloney at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (Yba/s)

If you ran under the name Tony No Baloney. You should win in a landslide.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (KUBIs)

415 A bit off topic, but what sort of chance do you guys give Paul Ryan losing his primary against Paul Nehlen?

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Very little.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (gmeXX)

416 334
But The Gods of the Copybook Headings are starting to make a little noise - and Pants Suit isn't equipped to deal with them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white and partaker of the Friday Night Fish Fry - I'll have the cod, please. at August 02, 2016 07:30 PM (P8951)

Good comment. And good luck.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (sdi6R)

417 well said ace,

the dem/msm in unison look to go after reps and reps have to play twister to avoid it. we all now know that the muslim brotherhood family were a phone setup, but the mom won't let the LIVs know.
they did lose a son , but 12 fucking years ago and are acting like it was yesterday and caused by president trump. there have been more american soldiers killed by fellow muslim troops than american muslims killed on the battlefield.

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (wwH1X)

418 408 In retrospect he's no better or worse than the Bush's, Dole, McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7C/kB)

He's better than those by far but still could do better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (9P3OG)

419 I seriously doubt the nation will survive--as a nation--for the next five years. People will be eating each other in the street and the Media will say how wonderful everything is. And there'll be more sports, and TV shows for those who are allowed to have electricity.

I'll vote for Trump (or rather, against Hillary) but I don't think the ship sails anymore. It's just grinding on the rocks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 02, 2016 07:43 PM (AroJD)

420 Again, I believe Events (by which I mean bad things, things I do NOT
want to happen but will happen because the Western World has had its'
head up its' ass for years and would rather focus on trivial bullshit
then existential threats) will overtake all of this horseshit the media
loves to obsess on.

Posted by: DonnaV (a white and partaker of the
Friday Night Fish Fry - I'll have the cod, please. at August 02, 2016
07:30 PM (P8951)
While I generally agree, as ace as aptly pointed out above, said Events pretty much have to pop in the week before Election Day for it to register with the ADD public. We've had massive jihadi attacks just over the past few months in major Western cities, even one in a gay club in Florida, and all were forgotten within a week, only the "need for better gun control" and "these aren't real Muslims" narrative remains.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 02, 2016 07:43 PM (lThpb)

421 408 In retrospect he's no better or worse than the Bush's, Dole, McCain and Romney.

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I assume you mean Daddy Bush? Can't figure out if this is a compliment or insult.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:43 PM (gmeXX)

422 Despite all that, I still think he will win ...
because Hillary is the most unlikable candidate ever. Trump may be #2,
but Hillary is in a league of her own.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (gmeXX)

aint that the truth. there is a reason they are not letting her a news conference. she is repulsive - the rot that is inside just oozes out

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 07:43 PM (c6/9Q)

423 Quicker, more accurate poll reading; they're all crap at this point. Not only are they massaged, but not looking at who'll actually vote instead just who can vote. Everyone here knew that Hillary was going to get a big bump in the polls after her convention no matter what the actual events were. It had to happen, and the media was going to report it no matter what the facts on the ground are.

Even when they are more accurate, they're still only useful as a long-term trend guide, not each individual pulse of polls.

I expect Hillary to win. But this fixation on polling among so many political junkies is just pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (39g3+)

424 KFC V Churches chicken V Popeye's. It's a win all. I love fried chicken.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (6Ll1u)

425 421 Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:43 PM (gmeXX)

Conservatives backing Bush the Younger was a mistake.

Dubya was just an even more mush mouthed repeat of his dad.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (SzZnW)

426 I seriously doubt the nation will survive--as a nation--for the next five years.

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Hyperbole or do you mean something else by "surives - as a nation." Let's just say I do not share your doom and gloom.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (gmeXX)

427 Obama had enough discipline not to pick a fight with Clint Eastwood when he did his empty chair routine.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (I7SKu)
Story goes poof if Trump says, 'I hate that he feels that way. I appreciate his son's ultimate sacrifice and his families' loss. But while we're talking about that, let's discuss Hillary's horrible policies while she led the State Dept.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (pUDQf)

428 408 I actually don't think Trump is a bad candidate, he fights similarly to the way Rudy fought Dinkins in 89' and 93'

In retrospect he's no better or worse than the Bush's, Dole, McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7C/kB)

Of all these supposedly outlandish and self-damaging things that Trump has said, is there anything that compares to Romney writing off almost half the electorate with his 47% remark?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (H6376)

429
418 408 In retrospect he's no better or worse than the Bush's, Dole, McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7C/kB)

He's better than those by far but still could do better.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (9P3OG)

totally agree. the losers all seemed to have alliterative named handlers who told them not to fight back ( although war hero McCain took Wright off the table himself).And Dole wet himself when asked by Jim Lehrer to comment on Clintons character. Can you see Trump do that?

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (wwH1X)

430 278 243
Instant Caliphate with Turkey after flooding USA and Europe with Muslims

NATO is their Army.

USA uses NATO to provoke WWIII nuclear war with Russia

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:16 PM (Z+1Ng)

I wonder if/when Russia uses American support of ISIS as a casus belli for attacking us.
Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

Obama is working on that. Remember the hot mic in the 2012 elections.

Well imagine the damage he will do as he approaches lame duck status.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (Z+1Ng)

431 I agree, I don't care if you're a Gold Star parent. You open you mouth, you reap what you sow.

Where was the media when that bitch voted for the war, and then for political reasons, turned her back on military while we were still fighting because it wasn't good for polling and her ambitions?

Posted by: Josh at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (G/pqk)

432 Trump can win if he starts spending money. Quit just having self-affirming rallies.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (KUBIs)

433 Speaking of debasement, Ace, is it worth attacking fellow conservatives daily for a candidate who you seem to think has almost no chance of winning?

Posted by: Roger Ailes' Cat at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (Pm+du)

434
Well, right now the GOP is burning, in a way we haven't seen in about 150 years.

posted by red personzai

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No the fuck it isn't.

It is sitting back licking an ice cream and singing praises to it's new Queen Hillary.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (qtgOZ)

435 People will be eating each other in the street and the Media will say how wonderful everything is. And there'll be more sports, and TV shows for those who are allowed to have electricity.

No.

It would be scary as hell if the powers that be could pull that off. But they can't.

Just the opposite. The distractions like Top Level Sports and Slickly Produced Media will go first. Then the empty shelves and blackouts.

Then shit will hit the fan. DC wishes they could do it the other way. They can't.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (fiGNd)

436 Hmmm...what if the rules are SO stacked against you cannot win by playing within the rules?

That is the current situation. Once again the people who want to play it safe and accept the rules had their chance...Twice. Should we try it that way a third time, or a fourth, or a fifth?

That is reality, and some people are slow to accept it.
Posted by: William Eaton

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There are situations where tossing out the rulebook might be appropriate, but you're going to have to show me that breaking "Don't give extra attention to the parents of dead American heroes when they attack you" rule will help Trump. Because so far it's hurting him really badly.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (I7SKu)

437 He's better than those by far but still could do better.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 07:42 PM (9P3OG)

Yup....Trump is a quick study and he has the fire in the belly. He will win it as Hillary is a horrible candidate and relies on other people to carry her water. Long way to go yet.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (ej1L0)

438 8 weeks until debate. Then debate almost every 2 weeks. Wake me up in 8 weeks.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (f6C3E)

439 Here ya go folks.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

click on the "get involved" button and sign up.

Then send your wisdom directly to the Trump Campaign. You want hillzebub to you know, actually lose, or do you just want to hang out ate HQ complaining about what a idiot Trump is?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)

440 "Again, I believe Events ... will overtake all of this horseshit the media loves to obsess on."

Spot on. And Trump is clearly positioned on the right side of these things, even for those who haven't been paying much attention.

After the next terrorist attack -- for which Obama/Hillary will have run out of excuses -- Papa Kahn will be a liability for them, 'cos overplayed hectoring.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 02, 2016 07:47 PM (r1fLd)

441 Hmm.
Sounds like our beloved ewok needs to take up drinking.
Yesterday.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 07:47 PM (C9pBZ)

442 >> Bill Clinton didn't release his medical records (I recall speculation that they would show evidence of cocaine use).

More likely evidence of every known sexually transmitted disease of man and probably some thought to be only an affliction of non human primates.

Posted by: Aviator at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (c7vUv)

443 So... If the average likely voter has the attention span of a squirrel and the memory of a goldfish, the "October Surprise" must time be perfectly timed -- say, like, sometime after Halloween, yes?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (kP16F)

444 Then send your wisdom directly to the Trump Campaign. You want hillzebub to you know, actually lose, or do you just want to hang out ate HQ complaining about what a idiot Trump is?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)

*****
Killjoy!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (KcI5m)

445 Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:45 PM (H6376)

You really.wabt someone to list them all? That ain't helping the cause.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (KUBIs)

446 Khan: I supported my son in joining the military of the greatest nation, and he paid the ultimate price. Trump has sacrificed nothing!
Trump: Have you heard about My Personal Vietnam? Also, you, sir, are probably a terrorist, and your wife is a slave.
Ace: What a nothing burger! Khan insulted Trump, Trump insulted Khan. Apples to apples, here. Crazy media and Never Trumpers making a mountain of nothing.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (tGUUu)

447 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (ej1L0)

Perfect. Yeah Trump is carring 90% or more of his own water. Where are all the gunga dins when he could use some help?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (WVsWD)

448 I don't care if you're a Gold Star parent. You open you mouth, you reap what you sow.

Posted by: Josh
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While it may be true in the sense of abstract capital-J "Justice" that Khan be open to the full measure of criticism that he heaped on Trump, it's not effective politics to go after him. The opponent is Hillary. Stop wasting time letting Hillary catch her breath while you punch down at a nobody.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (I7SKu)

449 There are situations where tossing out the rulebook might be appropriate, but you're going to have to show me that breaking "Don't give extra attention to the parents of dead American heroes when they attack you" rule will help Trump. Because so far it's hurting him really badly.

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Don't release your income tax return. That is a different rule. I find that good.

Going after parents of dead American hero - and not going after them per se, but trying to compare your sacrafice to theirs. I find that bad.

Throw the rulebook out. But some rules are still going to be enforced. Some should be ignored. There may not be a logical rhyme or reasons, but your gut should dictate which ones seem right and which ones seem wrong.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (gmeXX)

450 Trump needs to get his kids out there campaigning for him, if he hasn't already. Eric and Ivanka are much better speakers than Hillary or Trump himself.

Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (c056A)

451 After reading the post and most of the comments I have come to the conclusion that we are prolly DOOMED!

This an entirely new turn for the horde. I'm not sure how we're gonna cope with this new negative outlook.

Endeavor to persevere I reckon.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (UiE+I)

452 414, tonynoboloney is part of my e-mail on every flyer, hope you're right.

Posted by: tonynoboloney at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (Yba/s)

453 Hmmm...what if the rules are SO stacked against you cannot win by playing within the rules?

That is the current situation. Once again the people who want to
play it safe and accept the rules had their chance...Twice. Should we
try it that way a third time, or a fourth, or a fifth?

That is reality, and some people are slow to accept it.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 07:40 PM (KhJh

Nailed it. We can't win by playing the game the way they want us to play it. I don't know if we can win the way Trump's playing it, but the "Sit There and Take It" Romney style does not work, has never worked, and shows no sign that it's going to start working. How many times must we double down on failure, and why should we expect different results?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (J+mig)

454 FWIW...

Khan totally took down his law firms ENTIRE website today.

ALLof it. All references to his profiting off of Islamic immigratio have been scrubbed.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (JmjOe)

455 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (Ozsfq)

456 440,
Exactly so. Anyone seriously believe the adherents of Mohammed will be quiet over the next few months?
If so, I have a lovely bridge for sale... along with collapsing twitter stock.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (C9pBZ)

457 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:41 PM (I7SKu)
Story goes poof if Trump says, 'I hate that he feels that way. I appreciate his son's ultimate sacrifice and his families' loss. But while we're talking about that, let's discuss Hillary's horrible policies while she led the State Dept.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 02, 2016 07:44 PM (pUDQf)

Or even "No, I have not made the sacrifice that Mr. Khan has. But that question can be asked of Hillary as well, and in fact even more so, since she has had a role in setting and implementing government policy and I have not."

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (RyJWo)

458 Nailed it. We can't win by playing the game the way they want us to play it. I don't know if we can win the way Trump's playing it, but the "Sit There and Take It" Romney style does not work, has never worked, and shows no sign that it's going to start working. How many times must we double down on failure, and why should we expect different results?

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FWIW, its not going after Khan that was the problem, but how he did it.

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (gmeXX)

459 by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (WVsWD)

He called them all losers and said he didn't need their help.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (KUBIs)

460 Killjoy!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 07:48 PM (KcI5m)

That's me. I won't deny it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (WVsWD)

461 I'm late to the thread, so has anybody pointed out that Trump was leading in the Reuters poll before they "tweaked" it?

Posted by: Country Boy at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (D9inz)

462 When the Burning Times come you will be begging for gerb-ster!

Posted by: josephistan at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (7qAYi)

463 There is no GoP. There are a bunch of "establishment Republicans" who pretended that the operative word in that wasn't "establishment' but it turns out to be "establishment" not Republican.

I know this, because when the people nominated someone they found "icky" they went to the democrat establishment candidate by word, deed, or abstention.

They aren't the stupid party, they weren't a party at all. They were just establishment hangers on and virtue signalers.

I was never a "Trumper" because I wanted to beat fucking Hillary the dangerous bitch. Anyone who doesn't want to deserves every f-ed up thing that happens to them in her fascist regime.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (eSQgj)

464 Donald Trump opts against endorsing Paul Ryan, John McCain

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Donald Trump Calls Hillary Clinton the Devil

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c'mon Donald . When are you REALLY gonna hit her?

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (qtgOZ)

465 Trump needs to get his kids out there campaigning for him, if he hasn't already.

Trump's kids actually seem to be pretty good leadership material.

But they were born too late. Wrong last name, now. One thing I AM sure of is that this is Hillary's last chance. And Chelsea has no chance. Nor does another Obama or Bush.

America is moving away from political families.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (fiGNd)

466 We had a President threaten, let me repeat THREATEN, anybody who supports Trump today live from Singapore for 6minutes. It is like he views US citizens and their interests as his ENEMY.

LET THAT SINK IN. AND REMEMBER THE TRAITORS WHO DO NOTHING ABOUT HIM AND ENABLE HIM.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (Z+1Ng)

467 450 Trump needs to get his kids out there campaigning for him, if he hasn't already. Eric and Ivanka are much better speakers than Hillary or Trump himself.
Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (c056A)

Don Jr. gave the best speech of the convention. In fact, I'd say it was one of the best I've ever heard at a convention.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 02, 2016 07:52 PM (H6376)

468 454 Posted by: fixerupper at August 02, 2016 07:50 PM (JmjOe)

Exactly because he is either Muslim Brotherhood, or a Wahabbist...

but yeah Trump fucked up b/c a goddamned Jhadist enabler is attacking him.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (SzZnW)

469 Here's the question for anyone who thinks that it's not a horrible, terrible, completely awful idea for Trump to attack Khan...

What would you rather see Hillary do:

(1) Attack Trump, or
(2) Attack the Benghazi parents?

If your answer is #2, why do you think it's productive for Trump to be focusing his energy on Khan?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (I7SKu)

470 A 15 point swing in a week lol , stop taking polls seriously. Stop posting about polls.

Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (uSvO0)

471 Khan totally took down his law firms ENTIRE website today.///

Maybe the Clinton foundation bought it so that website is just obsolete.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (BZey7)

472 I'm making a meatball sub for dinner, pro tip: toast the bread before stacking the sammich.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (6Ll1u)

473 Taranto is just another beltway bubble head.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (iQIUe)

474 >>Trump needs to get his kids out there campaigning for him, if he hasn't already. Eric and Ivanka are much better speakers than Hillary or Trump himself.

I'd like to see Trump get Nigel Farage or some of the other prominent BREXIT pols to campaign with him. Kids are nice, show some of the people who don't hear from our msm what is going on elsewhere that the movement has begun.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (/tuJf)

475 It's funny that some here think that any possible response by Trump would have led to a different outcome.

Seriously.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (C9pBZ)

476 436 Hmmm...what if the rules are SO stacked against you cannot win by playing within the rules?

That is the current situation. Once again the people who want to play it safe and accept the rules had their chance...Twice. Should we try it that way a third time, or a fourth, or a fifth?

That is reality, and some people are slow to accept it.
Posted by: William Eaton

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There are situations where tossing out the rulebook might be appropriate, but you're going to have to show me that breaking "Don't give extra attention to the parents of dead American heroes when they attack you" rule will help Trump. Because so far it's hurting him really badly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (I7SKu)

answer: Kobayashi Maru

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (wwH1X)

477
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=4841927212010092328

Dumbasses.

Posted by: Swami at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (YONoK)

478 but yeah Trump fucked up b/c a goddamned Jhadist enabler is attacking him.
Posted by: sven10077
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There are thousands of goddamned Jihadist enablers attacking Trump on Twitter. How many of them do you think Trump should respond to?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (I7SKu)

479

The MFM?

Those Guys Are Dicks!

Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 07:55 PM (qul7b)

480 Every single story seems to involve liberal hypocrisy. It's so wearying to continually realize that the country is being run by sociopaths.

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 02, 2016 07:55 PM (DrG2I)

481 Kobayashi Maru
Posted by: Avi
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The Kobayashi Maru scenario is easy: you let the cargo ship go. You stay alive.

It's the easiest decision ever.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:55 PM (I7SKu)

482 I don't give a rats ass about Khan, the immigration lawyer.

The only mistake Trump made was that he didn't see the set up for what it was and respond accordingly.

Correct reply, "I'm sorry that the Khans lost their beloved son. Of course I had nothing to do with that. I think he attacks me because As a NYC immigration attorney and he thinks I threaten his bottom line."

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (eSQgj)

483 473 Taranto is just another beltway bubble head.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (iQIUe)

Exactly. And I don't want to have to pay to read his crap.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (RyJWo)

484 Pete, how much has T-Rump been "focusing" on Khan? I have no idea. I thought it was one Twitter thing and then he was asked about it (which wouldn't really count, though of course he should have nuked the question easily as any of us here can do).

Last night on the ONT buzzion was asking (sarcastically, to make the point), over and over, "how did Trump attack Khan?".

Of course not denying T-Rump has tactical discipline issues, but is this another Mission Accomplished or Katrina Moment, even to the extent of T-Rump actually doing/saying much of anything at all?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (QDnY+)

485 click on the "get involved" button and sign up.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)

Is there a reason to get involved for the sake of a candidate who wants to lose?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (lcUJ5)

486 478 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (I7SKu)

The pity is gram gram did not put THEM all on stage with her...

whatever Pete....

see you next November

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (SzZnW)

487 Thanks to Election 2016 I finally know what it feels like to be a Cleveland Browns fan. Trump is our Johnny Politics.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (fn3+8)

488
There are thousands of goddamned Jihadist enablers attacking Trump on Twitter. How many of them do you think Trump should respond to?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (I7SKu)

Just the ones with a national audience who lie to the American public about his policies

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (lKyWE)

489 Waiting for NROs endorsement of Hillary! in

3...

2...

1...

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (RyJWo)

490 It's funny that some here think that any possible response by Trump would have led to a different outcome.

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Or that any response by any other Republican candidate would have fared any better?

Posted by: fixerupper at August 02, 2016 07:57 PM (JmjOe)

491 It's funny that some here think that any possible response by Trump would have led to a different outcome.

Seriously.
Posted by: Anon a mouse...
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Well, today the press is running stories on how one of Trump's surrogates said that Khan has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If he hadn't said that, they wouldn't be running those stories. So there's that.

But keep pretending that Trump has nothing to do with stoking this story.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:57 PM (I7SKu)

492 481 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:55 PM (I7SKu)

No, it is not that simple....then your helmsman gets butthurt at not taking care of the cargo people and transfers out and 40% of your crew thinks you are a coward and undermines your authority....

at least that is how it went in Enterprise

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:57 PM (SzZnW)

493 Fwiw, kahn running off can only help Trump...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (C9pBZ)

494 @421

Pappa Bush basically served Regans third term and pissed away a 92pct job approval rating, Bush the lesser squeaked into office against a terrible candidate in ALGORE and won reelection against probably the worst retail politician this side of Michael Dukakis.

Dole, Romney and McCain did not seriously contest for the Presidency.

I do not think Trump is a bad candidate.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (7C/kB)

495 475
It's funny that some here think that any possible response by Trump would have led to a different outcome.

Seriously.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (C9pBZ)

Ah yep.It's all out war to destroy him. They must destroy him.Their candidate has a glass jaw. And they know it.

Posted by: LAST WEEK'S NEWS TODAY at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (svFmG)

496
It's funny that some here think that any possible response by Trump would have led to a different outcome.

Seriously.

Posted by: Anon a mouse

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Trump Silent on Gold Star Dad - WP

" Islamophobia!" - NYT

Trump Ignores Muslim Father's Tearful Plea - LA Times

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (qtgOZ)

497 Where are all the gunga dins when he could use some help?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 07:49 PM (WVsWD)

Though I beat you and flayed you, by the good Lord that made you, get off your F'en asses Ryan, Turkeyneck, Rinsed Penis and the rest of you sackless shits and support Trump!

Trump/ Pence 2016!..because Hillary is a (fill in the blank).

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (ej1L0)

498 Just the ones with a national audience who lie to the American public about his policies
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
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National audience? Dude gave one speech. He'd be forgotten by now if Trump left this alone.

And meanwhile, Hillary is staying above the fray.

This is a disaster.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (I7SKu)

499 How many of them do you think Trump should respond to?

Eventually Pete ... all of them.

You don't like Trump's tactics ? Fair point. I think he could be smoother myself.

But don't ever bullshit yourself into believing that a "finely tuned message" will win this election, save the country, and avoid a great big fight.

That's delusional.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (fiGNd)

500 491 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:57 PM (I7SKu)

Khan has ties either to the Muslim brotherhood or the Saudi Money class behind the Wahabbist invasion....

something Breitbart dug up hurt enough he took his firm's website down champ.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (SzZnW)

501 JackStraw with a great suggestion - have a surrogate (or occasional partner on the road) of Nigel Farage.

Just the hilarious, stunning contrast between T-Rump and Farage - while on many issues they argue basically the same points - would be worth it.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (QDnY+)

502 Is anyone surprised that Trump is an asshole? I'm not.

Does anyone who thinks Trump is an asshole also think Hillary is not an asshole?

Final question: Are we voting for who we think is the biggest asshole, or are we voting for who we think is more likely to do less damage to our interests? I think it's the latter. If that's Hillary for you, fine; I respect your analysis of your own interests. But then let's stop pretending that supporting a candidate and liking them are the same thing.

Accordingly, I refuse to get sucked into a concern troll outrage trap that de facto ends up in Hillary's benefit.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (L54EB)

503 stop taking polls seriously.
Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 07:53 PM (uSvO0)

I've taken it a step farther and stopped taking the Trump campaign seriously. It's a reality show minus the cameras.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (lcUJ5)

504 If you don't vote for the Sunnis you're voting for the Shiites.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (tGUUu)

505 Remember during the debate when Crowley jumped in to save Obama and Romney just stared and sputtered like a stunned mullet? Yeah...can't see that happening this year.

Its time to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (j1Wvr)

506 was it over when they bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Billy at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (DUgOB)

507 i figure the polls are all rigged, but only Reuters (iirc) was honest/foolish enough to admit they were changing their methodology to get the result they want...

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (i6Yqt)

508

I've never been so ashamed of ...

in my life.

They are all frauds and fools.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (qCMvj)

509 There are situations where tossing out the rulebook might be appropriate, but you're going to have to show me that breaking "Don't give extra attention to the parents of dead American heroes when they attack you" rule will help Trump. Because so far it's hurting him really badly.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:46 PM (I7SKu)

--------------------------------------------------------------

Over a long campaign it is the only way our side can win with national elections stacked the way they are. Sometimes that can look ugly at times.

Otherwise lets stop talking politics and prepare for civil war, or submit to the left and admit you are "guilty".

Three choices...that is it. The left is coming in for the kill in the next five years.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (KhJh8)

510 I think Ace has had some really unique and important insights to aspects of this election which few or no other talking heads have explored. That said, I don't understand the need to slip in a shot at Rubio with regard to situations that don't even involve him. To say that the force field around the Khan's will have expired if the candidate is Rubio....the whole point is we would never find out, because he would say something like "Their son's sacrifice was beyond heroic. I will pursue an immigration policy which protects the united states while acknowledging the contributions of immigrant families like the Khans" AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT. Neither Rubio, Cruz, Romney, Vermin Supreme, nor anyone else on the planet besides Donald Trump would get into a personal insult/pissing match with these people instead of TALKING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S CRIMES. What Trump is doing right now is fucking idiotic, and lends more and more credence to the conspiracy theory that he is in this to throw it for Hillary. I'm getting to the point where I think the times he does take a shot at her are simply a result of his ego not being able to resist, but overall he is wall-to-wall unforced errors.

Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (2Kysq)

511 Is there a reason to get involved for the sake of a candidate who wants to lose?
Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (lcUJ5)

****

It's cute that there are still a few people out there that think this way.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (KcI5m)

512 Khan has ties either to the Muslim brotherhood or the Saudi Money class behind the Wahabbist invasion....

something Breitbart dug up hurt enough he took his firm's website down champ.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (SzZnW)

Saudis. And he's balls-deep in involvement with the Clinton Foundation as well. Guy's a total shitheel. It's astounding that his son was such a better man than he was.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (J+mig)

513 It's OK. Keep pretending that snuffalupagus et al wouldn't try to sandbag other gop candidates...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (C9pBZ)

514 505 Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (j1Wvr)

B*tch Crowley will not have to tag team in to save Grammy....

Billy Dee Kristol and/or George Will will jump on any grenades.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (SzZnW)

515 info@greatamericapac.com

Share your wisdom about what DJT should do.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (WVsWD)

516 505 Remember during the debate when Crowley jumped in to save Obama and Romney just stared and sputtered like a stunned mullet? Yeah...can't see that happening this year.

Its time to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 07:59 PM (j1Wvr)

I wouldn't expect Trump to stand there starry eyed like Romney did.

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (wwH1X)

517 ete, how much has T-Rump been "focusing" on Khan? I have no idea. I thought it was one Twitter thing and then he was asked about it (which wouldn't really count, though of course he should have nuked the question easily as any of us here can do).

Last night on the ONT buzzion was asking (sarcastically, to make the point), over and over, "how did Trump attack Khan?".

Of course not denying T-Rump has tactical discipline issues, but is this another Mission Accomplished or Katrina Moment, even to the extent of T-Rump actually doing/saying much of anything at all?

Posted by: rhomboid

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On Monday one of Trump's surrogates said that Khan is a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood. The leftist NY Daily News ran with that story - not that Khan has that connection, but that it's unfair and wrong for the Trump campaign to accuse him of that.

So there you go: another day that Khan is in the news as a victim of Mean Asshole Trump.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (I7SKu)

518 Baron - you weren't alive in 2008, or 2012? Or monitoring WH public communications strategy, say, from 2003 - 2008?

Just wondering how the Cleveland Sports Futility thing clicks for 2016 but not those earlier cycles.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (QDnY+)

519 The basic problem is that people are stupid.

Sure, they are smart enough to know that all politicians lie to a degree. And they are smart enough to know that Khan critique of Trump is overblown. Yeah, they know that is a lie to a degree. But they already love Hill, so that is OK. And they go with the flow and jam-pile on Trump.

Did I mention that people are stupid? These same people who know that much of Hill crew says about Trump is a lie. So, being stupid, they believe everything negative about Hill is a total lie.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (P/kVC)

520 Settle down masterbater, it's one news cycle. Don't get too concerned.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (eSQgj)

521
Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
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Tell me about it. We have the dishonest media to deal with, the dishonest conservative social media to deal with, and the dishonest nevertrumpbots to deal with.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (iQIUe)

522 512 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (J+mig)

I'd go with Saudi connections but the loyalty matrix of democrat shills and operatives is a mobius strip...

The Iranians and MBs don't get along but ValJar backs Tehran but aided the MBs....

it's a maze but hey Islam uber alles

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (SzZnW)

523 FWIW, its not going after Khan that was the problem, but how he did it.
Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 07:51 PM (gmeXX)

What did he say in that interview on Sunday that was so problematic?

Posted by: buzzion at August 02, 2016 08:02 PM (z/Ubi)

524 Trump has a weird way of bouncing back from his toxic statements.

All I'm saying is don't kid yourself that you can predict how this plays out.

Posted by: Max Power at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (q177U)

525 Don't get me wrong - I'm still voting for Trump for two reasons:

1) A lot of good men & women died for my right to vote
2) I could never vote for Hillary

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (lcUJ5)

526 Well, the old nude photos of Melania didn't prove to be enough of a distraction. I suggest she post new nude photos.

Posted by: josephistan at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (7qAYi)

527 But if we are going to talk about "how can you say that" stuff, maybe Trump's people can remind all of the "Republicans used to be reasonable crowd" of the time when Joe Biden accused Mitt Fucking Romney of wanting to bring back slavery, and ask why he continues to be the backup for the Oval Office.

Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (2Kysq)

528 Saudis. And he's balls-deep in involvement with the
Clinton Foundation as well. Guy's a total shitheel. It's astounding that
his son was such a better man than he was.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (J+mig)

THAT is actually the real shocker.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (eSQgj)

529 2008 - "If Only McCain Would Quit Being So Congenial to Dems"

2012 - " If Only Romney Would Quit Being a Nice Guy and FIGHT!"

2016 - " Why is Trump All Mean and Shouty and Fighty???"

ace is right - save me from the Goldilocks "True Cons"

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (qtgOZ)

530
Saudis. And he's balls-deep in involvement with the Clinton Foundation as well. Guy's a total shitheel. It's astounding that his son was such a better man than he was.

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And his firm prepared the taxes of........ *drumroll*..... The Clintons tax returns.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (JmjOe)

531 >>Settle down masterbater

Bet you never thought you would write that.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

532 Dave, Rubio fans are Ace's whipping boy. He's open about it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (q6C1L)

533 I wouldn't expect Trump to stand there starry eyed like Romney did.
Posted by: Avi

Nope! He'd call her a c*nt and guarantee he lost the female vote handily.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (tGUUu)

534 Screw it ... over 500 posts equals gun thread.

Sven ... I've got a Mini-14 for a truck gun. Like it alot. Had it forever.

Thinking about a patrol gun. I like 5.56. What do you think about a DPMS in 20" ?

I looked at a Springfield M1A, of course ... but .308 is damned expensive.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (fiGNd)

535 And meanwhile, Hillary is staying above the fray.

This is a disaster.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 07:58 PM (I7SKu)

****
She can ambulate, but she can't hide forever. She is not "staying above the fray", she is cowering in fear from the results to date from her exposure to the public.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (KcI5m)

536 Trump's statements aren't "toxic" they're PORTRAYED as "toxic" because .....................................lefties.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (eSQgj)

537 What did he say in that interview on Sunday that was so problematic?

Our out of context cuts.

Posted by: MSM at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (BZey7)

538

This goat raping militant Islamist Clinton licker Khan?

That Guys a Dick!

Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (qul7b)

539 533 Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (tGUUu)

She was a c*nt, and should have been called out with fury on the spot....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (SzZnW)

540 What did he say in that interview on Sunday that was so problematic?
Posted by: buzzion
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ANYTHING AT ALL that wasn't "I am so sorry for his loss, and I can only try to understand his anguish. I'm proud that his son gave his life to defend his right to speak his opinion about me. Now, the war that his son died in was voted for by Hillary Clinton... etc., etc."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (I7SKu)

541 "Sounds like our beloved ewok needs to take up drinking.
Yesterday."

This looks like the right week to take up drinking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (9ym/8)

542 Oh, I now really fear computer fraud in the vote. The link in my nick
appears to be a legit study on how Bernie got really, really fucked
beyond the DNC e-mails. Perhaps CAC (I think, it is), the moron that
does election returns here can opine on it.

Looks to me that the Clinton campaign made a 10 to 20% difference in the Black support of Hillary. We normally expect 3% or so fraud from Donkeys, so this is in the unprecedented/historic range of (D) fraud. Assuming this kind of fraud exists nationwide - and there is no reason not to - Trump would need a landslide 1972 Nixon vs McGovern style win to be even with her.

Posted by: An Observation at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (Cs/V0)

543 When the purge comes, I'll be serving tea and biscuits outside of the camp gates.

Posted by: Fritz at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (WYh6/)

544 "And that would be the end of it"

Dude, pass over some of whatever that stuff is...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (C9pBZ)

545 I wouldn't expect Trump to stand there starry eyed like Romney did.

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 08:01 PM (wwH1X)

~~~~~~

Damn Straight. When in an ambush, assault.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (j1Wvr)

546 Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:03 PM (2Kysq)

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After the shit Romney pulled, I dont want to be put in the position of having to defend him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (iQIUe)

547 510 I think Ace has had some really unique and important insights to aspects of this election which few or no other talking heads have explored. That said, I don't understand the need to slip in a shot at Rubio with regard to situations that don't even involve him. To say that the force field around the Khan's will have expired if the candidate is Rubio....the whole point is we would never find out, because he would say something like "Their son's sacrifice was beyond heroic. I will pursue an immigration policy which protects the united states while acknowledging the contributions of immigrant families like the Khans" AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT. Neither Rubio, Cruz, Romney, Vermin Supreme, nor anyone else on the planet besides Donald Trump would get into a personal insult/pissing match with these people instead of TALKING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S CRIMES. What Trump is doing right now is fucking idiotic, and lends more and more credence to the conspiracy theory that he is in this to throw it for Hillary. I'm getting to the point where I think the times he does take a shot at her are simply a result of his ego not being able to resist, but overall he is wall-to-wall unforced errors.

Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (2Kysq)

Khan was part of Clinton's crimes and her deep connections with the enemy. The Muslim Brotherhood and the majority of Islam.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (Z+1Ng)

548 It's cute that there are still a few people out there that think this way.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:00 PM (KcI5m)

what would he be doing differently right now if he was trying to lose?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (lcUJ5)

549 The Left is trying to win an Election and we ( who ever we are?) are cutting each other's throats.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (Ozsfq)

550 Khan scrubbed his website as many have mentioned. He's fucking hiding something. I'm sure the MFM will be on this in 3..2...

Posted by: Timon at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (396pH)

551 ace is right - save me from the Goldilocks "True Cons"

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (qtgOZ)

I think they're now 2nd on my hate list after anything to do with democrats.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (eSQgj)

552 534 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (fiGNd)

If it is a truck gun I'd consider the Anderson RF-85 treated AR-15

http://www.andersonrifles.com/

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (SzZnW)

553 OMZG!! OMZG!!!

A newspaper said some bad about Trump!

Hard to believe huh?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (WVsWD)

554 Coming in late.
So msnbc jumps over cnn in ratings.
Hilarious!!!!
MSNBC dumps some of the worst kind and bump up.
I wonder if anyone else will catch on?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (aZNua)

555 ace is right - save me from the Goldilocks "True Cons"

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (qtgOZ)

I've given up the conservative label. We're not fighting to conserve anything at this point. We're fighting to restore things that have been betrayed, murdered, and buried in a shallow grave by grasping totalitarians.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (J+mig)

556 Even Scott Adams isn't trying to tell us that this is some sort of Master Persuader Wizard move.

And he disabled comments. I wonder why.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (I7SKu)

557
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (I7SKu)

I see,so both campaigns should just start lining up gold star parents to bash each other because they can't be criticized

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (lKyWE)

558 Well Pete I guess I won't get an answer, which is fine, my own lazy a** could go look it up myself I suppose, but I don't get the impression that T-Rump has actually done much on this non-issue.

A "surrogate"? Official campaign surrogate (I believe this rather awkward term is actually used)? Or Breitbart.com, which you and I can "deem" a "surrogate"? If the latter, then it's an entirely different matter.

In any case, people might want to consider the very real possible methodological issue with Reuters in this instance. This story was actually discussed a few days ago elsewhere - before the new results came out. Reuters did a big switch in their polling questions - honestly I never did figure out what they did, it was confusing, something about "none of the above" being included as a choice - which raised legit normal (not "skewed polls") type concerns.

Anyway, even leaving aside it's August (Happy Kuwait Invasion Day!), I don't think it's reasonable, even in the ethereal world of polling, to say T-Rump is getting "pummeled" or "seriously damaged". It's possible, but I don't think we have hard evidence of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (QDnY+)

559 551 Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (eSQgj)

Tell the GOP when they call asking for donations....

"Win now or straight ticket D in 2018 babe"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (SzZnW)

560 >>Settle down masterbater

========

newly discovered oxymoron?

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (qtgOZ)

561 answer: Kobayashi Maru
Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 07:54 PM (wwH1X)

Personal ethical consistency, "following the rules", are not even principles at play here. The Democrats are criminals, thus any technique that can be used to bring them down is ethical, and doesn't compromise anything. I you see a mugger mugging an old lady, it's perfectly ethical to clock him on the head with a rock. You don't have to agonize, "but I wouldn't like him to clock me on the head". "It's illegal to hit people in the head with a rock". Normal rules are suspended in such a case. Or rather, within a consistent ethical system, the same action may be right or wrong at different times.

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (DrG2I)

562 ANYTHING AT ALL that wasn't "I am so sorry for his loss, and I can only try to understand his anguish. I'm proud that his son gave his life to defend his right to speak his opinion about me. Now, the war that his son died in was voted for by Hillary Clinton... etc., etc."
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (I7SKu)

You want me to jump Ms Clinton? How high?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (RRLg9)

563 I suppose I'm not a True Conservative.

I wonder now if I ever was.

I hate snooty elitists. It doesn't matter what party they espouse. They're all a bunch of arrogant a-holes.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (rJUlF)

564 what would he be doing differently right now if he was trying to lose?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (lcUJ5)

Endorsing Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (J+mig)

565 545,
Nah. Issue a polite statement, then stay above the fray.
It's the GOP e way.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (C9pBZ)

566 549 The Left is trying to win an Election and we ( who ever we are?) are cutting each other's throats.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (Ozsfq)

Because "we" aren't "we". "We" is fake. It turns out that a lot of "we" were just virtue signaling assholes who are in love with their own virtue like a bunch of cloistered frustrated medieval nuns who think that their virtue is going to get them everlasting paradise. Rather, they're the assholes that screw everything up with their screeching, fainting, and sobbing.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (eSQgj)

567 what would he be doing differently right now if he was trying to lose?
Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (lcUJ5)

****

Hiding from public view like Madame Scrunt?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (KcI5m)

568 542 Oh, I now really fear computer fraud in the vote. The link in my nick
appears to be a legit study on how Bernie got really, really fucked
beyond the DNC e-mails. Perhaps CAC (I think, it is), the moron that
does election returns here can opine on it.

Looks to me that the Clinton campaign made a 10 to 20% difference in the Black support of Hillary. We normally expect 3% or so fraud from Donkeys, so this is in the unprecedented/historic range of (D) fraud. Assuming this kind of fraud exists nationwide - and there is no reason not to - Trump would need a landslide 1972 Nixon vs McGovern style win to be even with her.

Posted by: An Observation at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (Cs/V0)

If that level of fraud takes place, I'd get the hell out of populated areas because there will be war.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 08:10 PM (Z+1Ng)

569 I think they're now 2nd on my hate list after anything to do with democrats.
Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:07 PM (eSQgj)

Me three.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:10 PM (RRLg9)

570 564 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (J+mig)

WORKED FOR ME BACK IN 08 AMIGO!

//Senator Senor Juan Queeg

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:10 PM (SzZnW)

571 I looked at a Springfield M1A, of course ... but .308 is damned expensive.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:04 PM (fiGNd)

I recommend the DSA Arms FAL Voyager or one of the shorter barrel versions if it works for you. Reliable, good sights, easy to work on and just plain works. AIM got me mine for $1000.00 out the door. Solid, no nonsense .308 battle rifle. Even has the bayonet indent to add a bayonet if you can find one.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 08:10 PM (ej1L0)

572 Because "we" aren't "we". "We" is fake. It turns out that a lot of "we" were just virtue signaling assholes who are in love with their own virtue like a bunch of cloistered frustrated medieval nuns who think that their virtue is going to get them everlasting paradise. Rather, they're the assholes that screw everything up with their screeching, fainting, and sobbing.
Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (eSQgj)

Did we just become best friends?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:11 PM (RRLg9)

573 Me four ...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:11 PM (C9pBZ)

574 You don't have to agonize, "but I wouldn't like him
to clock me on the head". "It's illegal to hit people in the head with a
rock". Normal rules are suspended in such a case. Or rather, within a
consistent ethical system, the same action may be right or wrong at
different times.

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (DrG2I)

*Golf clap.* Thank you. America is being mugged, and Hillary the next in line to continue the mugging after Obama goes off to take over Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's empire of evil.

Normal rules don't apply here.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:11 PM (J+mig)

575 I would like to apologize to Tampax and Stay Free for any statements taken out of context....

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 02, 2016 08:11 PM (qtgOZ)

576 The Left is trying to win an Election and we ( who ever we are?) are cutting each other's throats.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (Ozsfq)

Because "we" aren't "we". "We" is fake. It turns out that a lot of "we" were just virtue signaling assholes who are in love with their own virtue like a bunch of cloistered frustrated medieval nuns who think that their virtue is going to get them everlasting paradise. Rather, they're the assholes that screw everything up with their screeching, fainting, and sobbing.
Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (eSQgj)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:11 PM (Ozsfq)

577 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (rJUlF)

The "true conservatives' have nothing to do with actual conservatism. They confuse sin and politics and can't define whatever "principle" they cite constantly.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (eSQgj)

578 Banning tampons or ANY types of female thingies...is beyond contemptible and will not be tolerated...

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (qtgOZ)

579 567 what would he be doing differently right now if he was trying to lose?
Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:06 PM (lcUJ5)

****

Hiding from public view like Madame Scrunt?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (KcI5m

Saying to the voters that we have nothing to fear from a Hillary Presidency.

Refuse to mention the crimes and failures of Hillary and refuse to criticize those crimes and failures.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (Z+1Ng)

580 571 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 08:10 PM (ej1L0)

He's saying .308 bang bangs are expensive not the rifle...

The ammo is pricey enough since Obama stopped the military from selling its surplus to civilians that one could almost justify the slightly more expensive Grendel for the extra 20% effective range....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (SzZnW)

581 Good Lord, thenamount of face fanning, couch fainting concern in this thread is fucking hilarious. You know who you are, Batin and Grannie.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (KcI5m)

582 Damn. Worried at first, but i do like where this seems to be headed...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:13 PM (C9pBZ)

583 so let me see, Trump is killing PC and now he is going after "absolute moral authority" . this may turn out ok

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:13 PM (c6/9Q)

584 Also I will appoint a Special Commission on Dog Carriers to insure that dogs will never again be placed on vehicle roofs...

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 02, 2016 08:13 PM (qtgOZ)

585 massive deficiency in impulse control

I had that once.

Posted by: Bill at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (JJev6)

586 Assuming this kind of fraud exists nationwide - and there is no reason
not to - Trump would need a landslide 1972 Nixon vs McGovern style win
to be even with her.

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The fraud aspect must be taken into account. Massive fraud, above and beyond anything America has seen. By my thinking, the Dem communists know, more than at any other time in our history, they are this close to having it all. They are not going to take any chances. They are not going to let it slip away. And they will stop at nothing. This is what scares me.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (+FSld)

587 All the typical American has heard this week is that Trump was nasty to a gold star family, a Muslim of all things whose son died in Iraq.

Mr.Jen returned from work travels today, and he said that all he heard on various radio programs was about Trump insulting a man speaking at the DNC whose son was killed in Iraq.

He knew nothing of Khan's background, who he is, or even what he said about Trump that provoked Trump's response.

Meanwhile, Hillary goes on Chris Wallace's show on Sunday, and extolls how she was exonerated by the FBI. Which many people believe because they never listened to nor heard Comey's entire case. All they know is their friends on Facebook are running posts saying that Hillary's email case is closed and NO ONE was charged , meaning no one did anything wrong.

And we wonder why polls, in which people are called and answers received from those who actually want to participate in them, show Hillary up by 8 pts.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (NNq1n)

588 >>You want me to jump Ms Clinton? How high?

What's the problem with just letting some of these things ride? This isn't the primary, he is competing with Hillary for the middle which is almost by definition low information. They are still trying to make up their minds, do not give them anything negative. Sort of basic commonsense.

This was a bad media shitstorm for Trump. He could have said something political and moved on because it was never going to be a positive, let it be forgotten. He turned it into a multi-day punch Trump in the dick story.

If he wants to win, he has got to do better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

589 Calm down ninnies, the Jesus is the slave of allah line is golden for DT. Screw the polls, there is a heartbeat in patient named America, especially since her inevetablness is the debil

Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (o3L0W)

590 If we are quiet and do what they want maybe the Media will stop hitting us.

Posted by: Republican candidate with two black eyes. at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (j1Wvr)

591 Khizr Khan is a Sharia lawyer from Saudi Arabia who works for a law firm hoping to cash in on visas for muslims under Clinton's immigration program.

Fuck this guy, he's not off limits, and Trump didn't say a single word against his son OR his wife.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (RRLg9)

592 Daily Mail still in love with Mooch

"FLOTUS Wows in White"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gmdcsae

Posted by: Willy J. at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (BZey7)

593 buzzion, a bit above I noted your persistent inquiry on last night's ONT about what, exactly, we are even talking about here.

I admit I'm lazy and hate fact-checking on crap like this, but it seems we have a Mission Accomplished moment here.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (QDnY+)

594 I would also like to apologize to that kid who's name I forgot for cutting his hair , like, 50 years ago...sorry dude....

*sob*

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (qtgOZ)

595 And, apparently flossing isn't a "thing anymore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (9ym/8)

596 Grammie's got a husband and a hangover.

Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (JJev6)

597 Damnit, my Kingdom for a "Preview post" button, Pixy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (KcI5m)

598 FWIW, my sister went to the Trump rally in VA today, which she said was YUUUUUGE with only 1 days' notice. She is no Trump fan but very patriotic and attended several rallys, including Tea Party rallys with her little kids, thinks teaching them to go to these things and be informed is important.

Anyway. She said the crowd was very well behaved, well dressed and a handful of lame teenage protestors were hardly paid any attention to. Tons of police and SS, and the biggest crowd she has ever seen.

Apparently a member of the school board tried to lock the doors and prevent the rally, which is nice.

Media *crickets* ......KHAN!

Posted by: Goldilocks at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (pOgVG)

599 Hey,did you just see where mittens said the words "ban tampons " up thread?

/how the MSM operates

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 08:16 PM (C9pBZ)

600 Because "we" aren't "we". "We" is fake. It turns
out that a lot of "we" were just virtue signaling assholes who are in
love with their own virtue like a bunch of cloistered frustrated
medieval nuns who think that their virtue is going to get them
everlasting paradise. Rather, they're the assholes that screw everything
up with their screeching, fainting, and sobbing.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:09 PM (eSQgj)

Virtue signaling. Nailed it. All of these people who are going all emotional over how Trump's a bit of a slime ball, and thus they're going to stay home or "vote their conscience", letting Hillary take over...

That's not real virtue, it's a Pharisee's fake virtue. It's the prayer on a streetcorner instead in a closet. It's about being seen as a good person by people whose opinions should not matter. It's selfish service to your self___ and social standing. It is vanity, it is the sin of pride masquerading as virtue.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:16 PM (J+mig)

601 At least it's not Trump, he's terrible
At least it's not Hillary, she's horrible

Two awful liberal human scumbags, and no I don't like Gary Johnson either.

I am looking forward to hopefully supporting an actual conservative and a human being I could shake hands with without feeling slimed.

Posted by: Floyd Looney at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (ga+fO)

602 558 rhomboid:

It was Al Baldasaro. Throw him into google with Khan and see what happens.

I'd post a link but this place is powered by a 1997 build of Geocities.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (I7SKu)

603 f he wants to win, he has got to do better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

I posted instructions on how to contact the Trump Campaign an a Trump PAC. Have you shared your advice yet on how Trump can do better?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (WVsWD)

604 This was a bad media shitstorm for Trump. He could have said something political and moved on because it was never going to be a positive, let it be forgotten. He turned it into a multi-day punch Trump in the dick story.

If he wants to win, he has got to do better.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

It's ALL a bad media shitstorm. It won't stop being a bad media shitstorm. So stop wringing your hands and do your part, or at least stop insulting morons here for circling the wagons. It's November or bust, forever.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (RRLg9)

605 581 Good Lord, thenamount of face fanning, couch fainting concern in this thread is fucking hilarious. You know who you are, Batin and Grannie.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (KcI5m)

Whatever... all I'm reading here is the same false-hope bullshit I read here 4 years ago:

"The silent majority will awaken!"

"The polls are skewed! Biased! Inaccurately weighted!"

"The voters will realize what a loser the Dem is and vote our way! It's only a matter of time!"

"There's no way the people of this country will (re)elect someone with that track record!"

Keep telling yourself these things if they bring you comfort.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (lcUJ5)

606 Remember during the primaries when it was repeatedly said that "Trump is tearing up the old playbook! It's a whole new ball game! The Democrats won't be able to effectively counter him because of his unpredictability and tactics they've never seen before!"

Whereas in reality he seems quite predictable, almost boringly so, and the Democrats seem to be having no trouble at this point with countering him.

Trump won the primaries because no one else dared grasp the nettle of illegal immigration. Not because Trump has sound political skills. Not because he has an electable temperament for a general election. Not because he's some amazing innovator at politicking.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (noWW6)

607 The "true conservatives' have nothing to do with
actual conservatism. They confuse sin and politics and can't define
whatever "principle" they cite constantly.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (eSQgj)
That's the conclusion I've come to myself. I've had people question my faith because I will vote for Trump in order to stop Hillary. They suggest the only "moral" road is to vote third party or not vote at all.Never mind that these "truecons" have supported people who have all done something immoral...because that's how humans roll.

My conscience is clear. My eternal fate does not rest on how I vote on this election. For those who would try to convince me otherwise...stop. You'll be wasting your time.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (rJUlF)

608

I'm With Her!

Posted by: Sphincter of the House - Paul Ryan at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (qtgOZ)

609 Just throwing in my theory: Trump can win in two scenarios, either a preference cascade runaway or an 'upset' where he is behind (but close) going into the election.

If he has a small polling lead, he won't be outside the D's margin of cheating. And the D's are way better than the R's at cheating.

There will be plenty more Khan-like eruptions between now and November, but there is at least a theoretical chance that DJT can demonstrate that he doesn't always have to be an asshole.

There is zero chance that HRC will demonstrate that she can refrain from lying.

Posted by: George Tirebiter at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (/zyrl)

610 He's saying .308 bang bangs are expensive not the rifle...

You got it ... but I appreciate the comments all the same. And it's a bitch ... because I really, really like everything else about the Springfield M1A other than the cost of feeding it. Held 'em at the NRA Louisville event.

And I like my Mini-14 ... but it's a 200 yard carbine. A truck gun.

Would like to get something that I'd call a "patrol gun". I think, at this point, it's going to have to be a longer 5.56.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (fiGNd)

611 "They are still trying to make up their minds, do not give them anything negative. Sort of basic commonsense."

Great strategy. Assumes that the media isn't full of lying fuck sticks.

Worked wonders for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (j1Wvr)

612 595
And, apparently flossing isn't a "thing anymore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (9ym/

Yeah, you beat me to it. I saw that story. Kind of funny, no proof, but government nannies and floss sellers all for it.

http://tinyurl.com/hd7haul

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (F1iXz)

613 They are not going to take any chances. They are not going to let it slip away. And they will stop at nothing. This is what scares me.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (+FSld

Right there with ya'! What, if anything, can us regular people do to battle the fraud? Seriously, am open to ideas and would volunteer.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (oQQwD)

614 I am looking forward to hopefully supporting an
actual conservative and a human being I could shake hands with without
feeling slimed.

Posted by: Floyd Looney at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (ga+fO)

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other, which one do you think's going to fill up first?

Our choices are shit, but one of them is far shittier than the other. You can either get a little dirty, or condemn us all to septic tank levels of filth.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:19 PM (J+mig)

615 #68

About possible voter fraud:
When Hillary and her campaign are able to win a coin toss 6 out of 6, why would they need to cheat?????

Sarcasm. They will cheat. I don't believe Obama won in 2012.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 02, 2016 08:19 PM (BI43k)

616 Ok. My prediction (which no one will remember true or false).

Obama will be lucky to not be impeached and removed from office. Hillary will go into a hospital to keep from going to trial and being convicted.

Why will this happen? Black Lives Matter (more specifically ambushing police officers matter). Also a stock market crash. Also a financial crisis.

Can't be stopped. August is almost a sure thing. If not then September or October. The Fed will try to goose the market and the market will roll over and play dead.

The people who count the votes need police officers to collect the revenue. Obama would be laughed at if he declared martial law. Trump declaring marshall law is more believable than Obama. The black women empowered by Obama have totally alienated the men needed in a crisis. Mosby is the tip of Obama's spear.

Ryan is going to lose his primary. Why would the Democrats cheat for him? Ryan is beyond out of touch. Pelosi will be thinking she can get back in till it is too late to save Ryan. Koch brothers aren't going to like it when Trump is President. Neither is Warren Buffet.

Posted by: Ok at August 02, 2016 08:19 PM (CRXed)

617 Keep telling yourself these things if they bring you comfort.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (lcUJ5)

So Trump is going to lose and you just have to share your doom and gloom around?

Why thank you. You are a real giver.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (WVsWD)

618 >>Thanks to Election 2016 I finally know what it feels like to be a Cleveland Browns fan. Trump is our Johnny Politics.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic

I'm afraid we're all going to learn what it feels like to be a Cleveland Steamer.

Posted by: Aviator at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (c7vUv)

619

Paul Ryan?

That Guys a Dick!

Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (qul7b)

620 Virtue signaling. Nailed it. All of these people who are going all emotional over how Trump's a bit of a slime ball, and thus they're going to stay home or "vote their conscience", letting Hillary take over...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party

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Oh stop. There's no one to signal virtue to here.

All of us would rather have Trump pull this out. But in order to do that, he's going to have to pull his own dick out of his mouth. And that stands zero chance of happening when everyone who supports him says "Mister Trump, you look so handsome with your dick in your mouth. My my, that looks delicious! No wonder you put it in there all the time. I wish my dick tasted as good. Mmm mmm I want some."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (I7SKu)

621 536 Trump's statements aren't "toxic" they're PORTRAYED as "toxic" because .....................................lefties.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (eSQgj)

and they would be even more toxic with the other reps because they wouldn't fight back as well, or if they did would not get adequate media coverage.
Cruz/rubio would be eviscerated by clinton/msm -he'd fight back but wouldn't get the airplay
Kasich would be eviscerated but would be too busy eating to notice.
Carson/ Christie/ florina would fight back hard , but the MSM would eviscerate them without covering their rebuts.
Jeb would be eviscerated and would smile.

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (wwH1X)

622 The #Trumpers who deny their abstinence from voting is a positive for Hillary live in a world of cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (JJev6)

623 y my thinking, the Dem communists know, more than at any other time in our history, they are this close to having it all.
They are not going to take any chances. They are not going to let it
slip away. And they will stop at nothing. This is what scares me.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:14 PM (+FSld)

I'm still expecting them to find some pretext to cancel the election.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (J+mig)

624 Who is going to start impeachment proceedings against Obama at this point? Name someone in Congress.

Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (2Kysq)

625 Oblamer opines that Trump is bad because of what he says.

No mention of what was "did".

Posted by: Golfman at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (48QDY)

626 >>>Daily Mail still in love with Mooch
"FLOTUS Wows in White"<<<

Great Scott! I'm estimating it takes 1.2 gigawatts of power to straighten Michelle's hair!

Posted by: Fritz at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (WYh6/)

627 >>I posted instructions on how to contact the Trump Campaign an a Trump PAC. Have you shared your advice yet on how Trump can do better?

I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm voting against Hillary. That's as much as he's getting from me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (/tuJf)

628 Paul Ryan?

That Guys a Dick!
Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (qul7b)

i don't know how he maintained his political viability after being manhandled by drunken Biden

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (wwH1X)

629 War is coming.
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No it's not.

What you hear are not war drums, but the giant sucking sound of America turning into a third world nation. Everyone on EBT's, SSI, etc. Shortages coming to a grocery store near you. Upper class/lower class. No middle any more.

Not out with a bang, out with a whimper.

So sorry for everyone who has a child. The New World Order is here, and Queen Vagina Jesus will make sure we are Venezuela while she lives like the queen that she is.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (tvyXw)

630 Why will this happen? Black Lives Matter (more specifically ambushing police officers matter). Also a stock market crash. Also a financial crisis.

Man ... if I knew this would happen, this entire "M1A or long AR" stream of thought would get shit-canned.

I'd have plenty of both. Cash.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (fiGNd)

631 Oh goodness, I am so sick of this shit. Somedays I'm sorry that I pay attention to politics at all.

We have very little control over the process. Why work yourself up over polls, surveys, etc? Do we have any control over that?

The candidates are who they are. Vote fucking accordingly. Me? I'm voting to keep Hillary out of the WH. I have no control over what Trump says or does. He may or may not be an idiot, but he is who I am voting for.

As I said a few days ago, it hurts my heart to say, but I would be casting votes for Rubio, Christie and even Fucking Jeb (whom I said I would never, ever vote for) just to keep that haggard bitch out of the Presidency.

YMMV.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (+eR2D)

632 Ace, the problem with writing off the Khan thing as "more bullshit
handwringing by puritans and prudes" is that everyone, yourself
included, has issues where they react like this. A quick google search
of your blog shows that you got in on the handwringing over Obama's not wearing an American flag lapel pin, not putting his hand over his heart during some moment of public patriotism, returning the bust of Churchill to British officials, bowing to foreign leaders, and all that. It rings hollow to suddenly invoke this "Can't do that, because that's virtue signaling and social justice warrioning!" suddenly, now that it's politically expedient. It also has this weird recursion problem: Trump can be offended by Mexican judges being biased against him and veterans families criticizing him, because that's stifling of political discourse to take public offense, but college educated right-wingers can't get offended by Trump's absurd responses on those issues because that's class warring. Why should the right-wing intelligentsia and print punditry have to be more invested in a Trump presidency than the man himself seems to be anyway?

The problem with Trump and his idiot statements isn't that he's offending the intellegentsia, which combined wouldn't be enough to swing a state. It's that he's offending almost everyone, and making the un-offended remainder (both his eager and grudging sets of supporters) look like world class hypocrites on every moral position they've taken in public if they implicitly bless him. You can talk about the media hypocrisy on Pat Smith vs. Kzir Khan, certainly you have a point there, but why should lefty media feel a moral imperative to be any more fair and balanced on our behalf than we hold FOX News or Drudge or Breitbart to on their behalf? Just because they're bigger, when taken together? And suppose Hillary had gone after Pat Smith as directly and aggressively as Trump did the Khan's. What kind of media coverage would you want or expect her to get?

If you think having a terrible Republican president in office helps conservatism simply by keeping a Democrat out, fine, I don't think it's an indefensible position and you're still my favorite political pundit regardless. But that's by no means a given outcome. Bush's unpopularity obviously made Obama's rise possible, and Bush was at least popular coming out of the gates. Hillary is loathed from the start, and Trump is still less popular. If the Democrats can successfully capture the perception they obviously were going for with the DNC, that they are the cautious, steady, and responsible stewards of our Republic in difficult times, what do we have left to sell the Republican party on unless we start out-competing them on the dispensing of free shit?

Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (xf3KI)

633 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:20 PM (I7SKu)

So what's left, then? There's no miracle candidate coming in on a white horse to save us.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (J+mig)

634
626 >>>Daily Mail still in love with Mooch
"FLOTUS Wows in White"

Great Scott! I'm estimating it takes 1.2 gigawatts of power to straighten Michelle's hair!
Posted by: Fritz at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (WYh6/)

they love her protruding mandible and underbite

Posted by: Avi at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (wwH1X)

635 RedLetterMedia Scientist Man Analyzes Ghostbusters(2016)

https://youtu.be/UWROBiX1eSc

Posted by: buzzion at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (z/Ubi)

636 Who is going to start impeachment proceedings against Obama at this point? Name someone in Congress.
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Ron/ Rand Paul?

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (tvyXw)

637 610 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:18 PM (fiGNd)

If bolt action is ok look at the Mossy MVP series...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (SzZnW)

638 As I said a few days ago, it hurts my heart to
say, but I would be casting votes for Rubio, Christie and even Fucking
Jeb (whom I said I would never, ever vote for) just to keep that haggard
bitch out of the Presidency.

YMMV.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (+eR2D)

Yeah. Same here. And I hate having to admit it. Hillary's just that bad.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (J+mig)

639 Oh stop. There's no one to signal virtue to here.

All of us would rather have Trump pull this out. But in order to do that, he's going to have to pull his own dick out of his mouth. And that stands zero chance of happening when everyone who supports him says "Mister Trump, you look so handsome with your dick in your mouth. My my, that looks delicious! No wonder you put it in there all the time. I wish my dick tasted as good. Mmm mmm I want some."

----------------------------------

Right. How to people not understand that "I'll temporarily take Trump to prevent Hillary" does not thereby mean "I hope Trump goes full blast with absurd shit that crashes his polls all the way to Nov", but in fact should mean the opposite?

Posted by: Dave at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (2Kysq)

640 " Satan's Right Testicle "

You've been busy today.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (9ym/8)

641 they love her protruding mandible and underbite
---

I think you meant to say "member" and "brow."

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:23 PM (tvyXw)

642 Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:21 PM (/tuJf)

Comment wasn't meant for you. It was for those who have been endlessly offering advice. Here only, as far as I know.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:24 PM (WVsWD)

643 They suggest the only "moral" road is to vote third party or not vote at all.Never mind that these "truecons" have supported people who have all done something immoral...because that's how humans roll.

Which is utter bullshit. There is no perfect candidate, especially one willing to be in politics at all. The complete horseshit that they're good with Hillary winning because they managed to keep their political virginity by allowing it is a sin of omission.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:24 PM (eSQgj)

644 I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that Trump is unfit for office.

AND No one says a word. No one.

Not a single republican has called him out. And we wonder why Trump suffers in the polls this week.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 02, 2016 08:24 PM (NNq1n)

645 torquewrench is correct, above all T-Rump is the nominee (and such as Walker faded before we even saw how they would do on a national stage) because of the obvious, critical, yet amazingly taboo topic of mass illegal migration (above all, *not* "only").

He's also got instincts and unconventional approaches (like the Russia/email press thing last week) that can actually work brilliantly - and have the *other* side flailing in their parachute in the water even as they give a toxic vulnerability for their gal even more attention.

But it will vary from case to case. If enough of the country is desperate or fed up enough, then T-Rump wins. Regardless of these alternating coups/stumbles. Nature of the situation, nature of the candidates.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (QDnY+)

646 He's saying .308 bang bangs are expensive not the rifle...
The ammo is pricey enough since Obama stopped the military from selling its surplus to civilians that one could almost justify the slightly more expensive Grendel for the extra 20% effective range....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:12 PM (SzZnW)

10-4!....Thanks Sven,disregard my last then. 5.56/.223 is definitely cheaper now but maybe when Trump wins .308 will see a drop off in price with more in supply. A man can hope!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (ej1L0)

647 640 " Satan's Right Testicle "
You've been busy today.

'Cause Satan's Left Testicle is a Dick!

Posted by: Satan's Right Testicle at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (qul7b)

648 From Gateway pundit:

CONFIRMED: Pollsters Loading Polls with Democrats to Give Hillary a Lead Over Trump

http://tinyurl.com/hq7xf7b

I suppose this could be something. Gird your loins.

Posted by: willy at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (Ffw22)

649 Danger Girl.

Co-signed.

Posted by: eleven at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (qUNWi)

650
I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past
eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from
the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that
Trump is unfit for office.

AND No one says a word. No one.

Not a single republican has called him out. And we wonder why Trump suffers in the polls this week.
---

Earlier today on Fox, Huckebee, said that EVERY democrat has said that about every republican since the beginning.

What he didn't mention is that many Republicans agree.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (tvyXw)

651 If bolt action is ok look at the Mossy MVP series...

I have ... they're on my radar.

Also thinking about going .308 anyway with a Ruger Gunsite Scout. Alot.

I like the idea of a mag-fed .308. But I'd like a longer barrel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

652 "I think, at this point, it's going to have to be a longer 5.56."

Considered .22-250, .243. 25-06, 6mm, 7mm, .270?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:26 PM (9ym/8)

653 Y'all need to stop getting your news via MSM iv drip. Trump won the primaries in spite of persistent media criticism, the real story this cycle is social media and you'd be surprised how the field is shaping up, if you'd look into it.

Facebook, google, reddit, twitter, they're all censoring Trump info and deleting bad news on Clinton, every single day, and it's getting through to their users, even the lefties, and especially the centrists. Bernie drove a wedge into the democrats and a substantial number of his young warriors are openly Trump in order to spite Clinton.

Will that last through November? Who's to say. But it's not BAD news.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:26 PM (RRLg9)

654
We have very little control over the process. Why work yourself up over polls, surveys, etc? Do we have any control over that?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (+eR2D)

^^^This^^^

Hope for the best, expect the worst, plan accordingly.

Posted by: davidt at August 02, 2016 08:27 PM (mkppl)

655 Also, the media is against us. The media is against Republicans. It doesn't matter who is the nominee, the media will smear them. If they don't make "unforced errors" the media will force errors upon them or just blatantly lie. We cannot win with the MSM. The best we can hope for is the general public seeing through the bullshit.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:27 PM (+eR2D)

656 It's all so simple really......we can't go down without a fight, that's all there is to it.

Republicans have always had the opposite credo.....and look at them...they're dead. At least Trump is alive and kicking ass.

Posted by: Pam at August 02, 2016 08:28 PM (cF0hS)

657 I am looking forward to hopefully supporting an actual conservative and a human being I could shake hands with without feeling slimed.
Posted by: Floyd Looney at August 02, 2016 08:17 PM (ga+fO)

You still shake hands?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:28 PM (Ozsfq)

658 651 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

Wife just bought a 20" Mossy MVP Patrol in .308 that takes M1a1 Mags....

if you can do without iron sights they offer the "MVP Predator" in 24"....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:28 PM (SzZnW)

659 I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past
eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from
the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that
Trump is unfit for office.

AND No one says a word. No one.

Not a single republican has called him out

Let's name names :

there's Pauly and Johnny and Teddy and....

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:28 PM (qtgOZ)

660 "I posted instructions on how to contact the Trump Campaign an a Trump
PAC. Have you shared your advice yet on how Trump can do better?"

Ha! Marty McFly could have showed up in the DeLorean and specifically warned Trump not to respond to any speaker at the DNC other than Hillary herself and he wouldn't be able to help himself.

He hires the best people, right? Why aren't they able to coach him?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (fn3+8)

661 >>It's ALL a bad media shitstorm. It won't stop being a bad media shitstorm. So stop wringing your hands and do your part, or at least stop insulting morons here for circling the wagons. It's November or bust, forever.

Blow me. I've been doing my part a hell of a lot longer than you.

I have as much riding on this election as anyone and I want Hillary to lose as much as anyone. I'm not hurting Trump be saying he fucked up when he fucked up, he hurt himself and it's pretty obvious.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (/tuJf)

662 Fuck this guy, he's not off limits, and Trump didn't say a single word against his son OR his wife.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:15 PM (RRLg9)

No way! Like totally made up?!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (P/kVC)

663 Earlier today on Fox, Huckebee, said that EVERY democrat has said that about every republican since the beginning.

What he didn't mention is that many Republicans agree.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (tvyXw)

I"m trying to remember Clinton standing at the podium in the White House with the sitting PM of a foreign nation, declaring George Bush to be unfit for office and telling the press that Bush knows nothing about Europe and the Middle East.

I don't recall Jimmy Carter doing it either, although he made up for it when he left office.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (NNq1n)

664 Basically what I'm saying is that no matter what Trump did regarding this Khan situation, the media would turn it into an anti-Trump shitshow. It's a lose-lose, regardless of Trump's response or lack of.

If you don't realize that, you haven't been paying attention for a long, long time.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (+eR2D)

665 Frankly, I'm just glad to see someone pushing back against the bullshit for a change.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (+eR2D)

666 Too many people decided to not give a shit about Obama's demonstrable corruption and incompetence 4 years ago.

Why would they care about Hillary's now?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (lcUJ5)

667 Wife just bought a 20" Mossy MVP Patrol in .308 that takes M1a1 Mags.... if you can do without iron sights they offer the "MVP Predator" in 24"....

Has she field stripped it yet ? How's the bolt look ? How's it shoot ?

That could be a winner.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (fiGNd)

668 He could well be the world's leading expert on "unfit", but that does not give his pronouncements much authority.

Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (OLNwX)

669 Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 08:22 PM (xf3KI)

First of all, bit too much concern there.

Secondly, you're assuming that the demographics of the US, relatively balanced in the past, stay that way.

1. Hillary will throw open the borders
2. Hillary will grant amnesty and citizenship to the hordes of illegals which includes the vote
3. Her admin will sue to get rid of voter ID laws, because racism
4. She will appoint judges who will back her up on illegals and the DoJ investigating every precinct for "racism"
5. She wants to expand the muslim "refugee" influx over 500 times
6. 1000 other things including burrowing and hiring all the Class C political appointees

Electing another radical after Obama who has been designing her revenge for 20 years will result in a permanent leftist country.

So stop.

There is no going back after she

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (eSQgj)

670 But Hillary has a vagina! And Trump is so meeeean!!!

Posted by: LOFO Soccer Mom at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (0mRoj)

671 "Who is going to start impeachment proceedings against Obama at this point? Name someone in Congress."

Speaker Paul Ryan just before he goes out the door.

By that time they might be able to do it by voice vote.

John Kerry will be calling for it and saying he never did like that guy. That Mr Obama.

Posted by: Ok at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (CRXed)

672 Now now, folks. Let's not go throwing chairs at each other - just yet.

Baron, that's a nice scenario there with the time-travel DeLorean. Funny (partly because "ring of truth").

However, due to your past observed TDS, I will have to throw a chair at you. So stand still. No, a little bit more to the left. There, perfect.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:32 PM (QDnY+)

673 Nice metropolitan reference!

Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at August 02, 2016 08:32 PM (UrV+J)

674 "I've given up the conservative label. We're not fighting to conserve anything at this point. We're fighting to restore things that have been betrayed, murdered, and buried in a shallow grave by grasping totalitarians.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel "

Kinda where I'm at, too .... whoinhell wants to conserve the Uniparty ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 02, 2016 08:32 PM (gUoN4)

675 Blow me. I've been doing my part a hell of a lot longer than you.
I have as much riding on this election as anyone and I want Hillary to lose as much as anyone. I'm not hurting Trump be saying he fucked up when he fucked up, he hurt himself and it's pretty obvious.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (/tuJf)

You're always so nice to talk to Jack.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (RRLg9)

676 Why would they care about Hillary's now?

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (lcUJ5)
economy, terrorism

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (c6/9Q)

677 185
Hey, what happened to "Let it Burn?" six months ago, you couldn't go five posts without seeing that.

Well, right now the GOP is burning, in a way we haven't seen in about 150 years.

So folks should be happy, right?

Posted by: person

What utter bullshit.

Unless of course by "burning" you mean "cuddling up to their new Democrat overlords and happily slurping cock for the privilege of an eternity of Second Place".

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (qtgOZ)

678 667 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (fiGNd)

We are taking it home to shoot it.

The bolt is "different" it is scalloped basically....

https://youtu.be/K_H2m5OmDJI

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (SzZnW)

679 Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (fn3+

In other words no?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (WVsWD)

680 Mooch's hair? She wears wigs most of the time.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)

681 The best we can attempt to do is inform those around us in our personal lives as to what the stakes are. They may or may not choose to believe us, but it is what we are limited to.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:34 PM (+eR2D)

682

ANYONE WANT TO BUY A HOME CIRCUMCISION KIT?

ONLY USED ONCE...

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE GOY MOHEL at August 02, 2016 08:34 PM (qul7b)

683 Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (lcUJ5)
economy, terrorism

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (c6/9Q)

Pretty sure they were around 4 years ago, too. They weren't deemed as important as "Obama Phone!"

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:35 PM (lcUJ5)

684 It seems more likely that Bern Victims are just goose-stepping into line behind the Imperial Vagina in a way conservatives opposed to the authoritarianism and vulgarity of Trump simply won't. Nobody cares about this Khan douchebag and his DNC blather.

Posted by: Blacklake at August 02, 2016 08:35 PM (b9GlI)

685 542
Looks to me that the Clinton campaign made a 10 to 20% difference in the Black support of Hillary. We normally expect 3% or so fraud from Donkeys, so this is in the unprecedented/historic range of (D) fraud. Assuming this kind of fraud exists nationwide - and there is no reason not to - Trump would need a landslide 1972 Nixon vs McGovern style win to be even with her.

Posted by: An Observation at August 02, 2016 08:05 PM (Cs/V0)

Yes, that's what I think. We pretty much have a Third World electoral system at this point.

Recall that UN observers in 2012 were appalled at our lack of ballot security, such as Voter ID.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

686 I see "person" is still trolling? Why is that?

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (eSQgj)

687 683 Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:30 PM (lcUJ5)
economy, terrorism

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:33 PM (c6/9Q)

Pretty sure they were around 4 years ago, too. They weren't deemed as important as "Obama Phone!"
Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:35 PM (lcUJ5)

And the Peggy Joseph "He gonna pay my mortgage and my gas!"

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (0mRoj)

688 Electing another radical after Obama who has been designing her revenge
for 20 years will result in a permanent leftist country.

So stop.

There is no going back after she
---

Which goes back to my earlier post about America as a third world nation.

You would think that middle class liberals would care about the future of their children. I guess they don't. I guess they're OK with living as a third world country and all that entails.

/I'm pretty sure I'm on a List, so I'll be hauled off to the camps and my organs will be harvested. Ah well, it's been a good life.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (tvyXw)

689 Does anyone think there is a chance that Trump will make up some excuse (health or something) and drop out and let Pence take over? How would that even work? Would Pence automatically be the successor candidate?

Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (MpfHK)

690 Regarding the argument about social class elitism, this ignores that there's actually quite a lot of blue collar and high school educated whites who are put off by Trump's behavior. My relatives (at least, those who live in U.S.) are exactly the sort of average, middle class suburban whites -- mom and apple pie, salt of the earth, prone to wholesomely naive political incorrectness that shocks the in-laws new to family gatherings, conservative instincts but politically disengaged (the ones who do vote are reliable Republicans) -- who people are assuming are Trump's backbone of support. I know it's anecdotal, but in my family's case they're all disgusted by Trump, far moreso than Hillary (I doubt most of them are familiar with or understand any of her scandals anyway, but they do understand being a spoiled, rich brat with bad manners). You talk about this group as a monolith at your own peril. Sure, plenty such Americans certainly find the elite's moral handwringing overly constraining, but do you think there's a lot of those who didn't already go for Trump in the primaries? Most are so disengaged from the media cultural sphere we debate in and engage with daily that they don't even notice such constraints, which is why they don't bother trying to read a crowd before talking about "the chocolate people" at Thanksgiving dinner.

And isn't at least some elitism occasionally called for? Disqualifying someone for a position of authority on the grounds that
they don't ever read books or construct coherent thoughts isn't just
henpecking over bad manners. My best friend had to read novel-sized
technical manuals on how to operate the boiler for the high school he works at, to get a decent
promotion for his job as a high school janitor. If Trump can't be
bothered to be marginally informed at the community college level on
basic history and civics, then his social caste is what most of us refer
to as "children", and he deserves the class condescension of all voting
age citizens and employed teenagers. Or, hell, the condescension of any
5 year old who can quietly sit through an hour of church or read through a whole book
with a Newbery Medal on the cover.

Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (xf3KI)

691 PARIS - French President Francois Hollande said on Tuesday a victory by US presidential candidate Donald Trump could make politics more conservative around the world and said the real estate magnate made people feel nauseous

LMAO

Frogs? .

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (Ozsfq)

692 >>You're always so nice to talk to Jack.

Maybe you can tell me to stop wringing my hands and insulting people here again when I have done neither.

Passive aggressive is never a good look.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (/tuJf)

693 Electing another radical after Obama who has
been designing her revenge for 20 years will result in a permanent
leftist country.

So stop.

There is no going back after she

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (eSQgj)

You're on target again. This is not a typical election. If we lose, we get another Sotomayor or Kagan, and that's all she wrote for the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Tyranny and plunder become the law of the land, and due process is completely replaced by the whim of the ruling caste.

If we lose, there is no hope of recovery by any legal process, and leaves no option but the ultimate last resort.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (J+mig)

694 It shouldn't be a problem for Trump to respond to Khan, however he did get too personal. He had a chance to respond and smack down Hillary at the same time. Such as what has she sacrificed except and her making millions through political contacts.

Posted by: YatYas at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (5v4w4)

695 If bolt action is ok look at the Mossy MVP series...

I've got a Predator .308 with a 20" barrel and it's a nice rifle for the price. It's got their Accu-Trigger or whatever they call it, feels really good and breaks clean. I use it mostly for deer hunting so a 20 round mag isn't really necessary but I've got a few anyway.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (fn3+8)

696 Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (MpfHK)

Lost your Shine Box?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (Ozsfq)

697 684
It seems more likely that Bern Victims are just goose-stepping into line
behind the Imperial Vagina in a way conservatives opposed to the
authoritarianism and vulgarity of Trump simply won't

Exactly. They just needed an excuse. ANY excuse to get juuuust outraged enough to get in line behind Hillary's nasty ass and "think of Bernie".

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (qtgOZ)

698 Khan was convenient.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (qtgOZ)

699 One of your finest-ever posts, Ace. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Afroman at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (hSL8e)

700 I don't know WHY you folks are wasting your time with this Oke-Doke.

I have decided to be Pezzy-Dent for life, and that settles THAT.

After all, I'm the best person for the job EVER!

And I'm also the best person to decide who's qualified. And that's me.

And only me.

I'll get back to you folks around November 1st with the details.

So, just kinda chill. Lay off offing any more ofay pi- er, cops, bros and sistas. I'ma gonna need them for, uh, working out the details.

Ya dig?

Oh, and, uh, sorry, Hillary! But I'll make sure the public corruption thing goes away. Mostly.

Just think, you and Bill and that Howdy-Doody looking thing spawn of yours, kicking back in Chucktuckwah or where-ever you hang out at.

All family-like. Close. Conjugial. Just like regular folks.

It'll be great! You'll thank me!

You'd better.

Posted by: Bamlet the First, Mad King of Folksilvania at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (nd1zx)

701 661 >>It's ALL a bad media shitstorm. It won't stop being a bad media shitstorm. So stop wringing your hands and do your part, or at least stop insulting morons here for circling the wagons. It's November or bust, forever.

Blow me. I've been doing my part a hell of a lot longer than you.
I have as much riding on this election as anyone and I want Hillary to lose as much as anyone. I'm not hurting Trump be saying he fucked up when he fucked up, he hurt himself and it's pretty obvious.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 02, 2016 08:29 PM (/tuJf)

You used to be able to talk about political things here and express your thoughts on them. But I guess that is no longer operative.

And I have no interest in hanging out at a propaganda house.

Posted by: Maetenloch at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (pAlYe)

702 "Why would they care about Hillary's now?"

Because Trump is telling them he can patch the hole in the ship and get it back up to 30 knots. By November that will be important and Obama and Hilary won't be able to convince anyone that anything but hard times ahead if she is elected.

The FSA is going to vote for Trump. Trump is the new Bernie.

Posted by: Ok at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (CRXed)

703 hillzebub will let her own kind of people die for her but Trump fucked up!!!

Do you hear that?? Trump fucked up!! I'm going to continuously point that out until, I don't know.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (WVsWD)

704 It comes down to trust and I trust Hillary 100%.

So Trump it is.

Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (RrDm2)

705 If we allow it, this election done been stole. If we allow it. If it is stolen (demorat way), it will have to be taken back the hard way most likely. The ugly painful way.

Posted by: Eromero at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (zLDYs)

706 And he disabled comments. I wonder why.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:08 PM (I7SKu)

He disabled comments a while ago because he was being attacked nonstop by leftists - and people like you.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white and partaker of the Friday Night Fish Fry - I'll have the cod, please. at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (P8951)

707 The best we can attempt to do is inform those around us in our personal lives as to what the stakes are. They may or may not choose to believe us, but it is what we are limited to.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:34 PM (+eR2D)

Yup......this is what I try to do too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (ej1L0)

708 Pretty sure they were around 4 years ago, too. They weren't deemed as important as "Obama Phone!"

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:35 PM (lcUJ5)

You are very predictable.
Not like this, to this extent. obamacare did not kick in 12, isis was not cutting peoples heads off in the middle of europe, blm was not executing police anywhere they wanted and the border anarchy was not at this level. this is total collapse.

Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (c6/9Q)

709 Not worried. Get ready for some real politics circa 1836. This is gonna be fun! Can't wait for the debates.

Posted by: Yan Yanson from Wi. at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (i8Shl)

710 Was anyone that was supportive of Trump 2 weeks ago really backing out now over this made up controversy?

Posted by: Julius at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (Jzg4b)

711 690 Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (xf3KI)

BRAVO post of the day!

You captured the Axelturfer Che Che style post with TOTAL precision.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:40 PM (SzZnW)

712 dagny speaks truth.

I squandered most of my life inside the Beltway, and it seems many normal highly-informed people still don't seem to recognize how bad things are.

I think it's 50/50 that things are *already* beyond saving, regardless of November's outcome.

Just to pick two easy examples out of recent headlines (it's devastatingly easy to do this, month after month).

The near-formal disposal of the FBI's integrity. It's a pretty damn important institution. And its current director just dealt it a blow such as it has never seen in its history.

Which segues to the second example, the astounding, brazen, and consequential criminality of Hillary's State Dept. The security scandal of course engulfs dozens of people or more, as does the related Public Records Act scandal and law-breaking. And the pay-for-play has no analogue in US history. Nothing even in the same category.

And 90% of "conservatives" are completely inured to such things that even they barely say anything. The "opposition" in Congress does almost nothing (and nothing consequential). The press - well, you know. The public - yawns (at best).

The rot is everywhere, high and low. I certainly didn't see that developing so damn quickly, but it's overwhelming now. The unwritten rules are often the most important, and those are just, literally, gone (poof) inside the Beltway.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:40 PM (QDnY+)

713 Democrat shell game: [opponent] is horrible. [opponent year-4], and [opponent year-8], they were reasonable.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 08:40 PM (q6C1L)

714 There is no going back after she

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (eSQgj)

.....finishes the fundamental transformation.

But the cat decided to walk across the keyboard.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (eSQgj)

715 Ace has his ace material today (sorry).

Not sure to what extent I agree or disagree with his statements regarding the insulation of veterans and their families from verbal attacks (I think a certain level of deference is necessary to uphold the esteem in which the broader public views military service), but either way that was a damn fine article, and addresses questions I've been grappling with myself a lot, lately.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (KF8B+)

716 And isn't at least some elitism occasionally called for?

NICE.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (qtgOZ)

717 697 Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:38 PM (qtgOZ)

Yup the Barney Bots are looking for free shit...

Grammy will give it, the GOP won't give enough to beat it.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (SzZnW)

718 Well, fwiw, my truck gun for the last 20+ years has been an SKS that I paid about $100 for. Not gonna leave a thousand-dollar anything behind the seat.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (gUoN4)

719 11 So who killed Khan's son?

Posted by: Javems at August 02, 2016 06:39 PM (yOqwj)

I don't know but he blames me for killing his wife...

Posted by: James T Kirk at August 02, 2016 08:42 PM (4A5fG)

720 The best we can attempt to do is inform those around us in our personal lives as to what the stakes are. They may or may not choose to believe us, but it is what we are limited to.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:34 PM (+eR2D)

Unfortunately you are exactly correct. In what's supposed to be a social media world of instant connectedness those who won't toe the dem line have been reduced to trying to suss out personal acquaintances we can talk to. Except not at work.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at August 02, 2016 08:42 PM (RRLg9)

721 716 Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:41 PM (qtgOZ)

Quite captured it PERFECTLY....

the unearned preening everything....

three thumbs up.

Only thing missing was tearful cuddling on the sofa...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:42 PM (SzZnW)

722 Well, this is rather depressing. Sigh. Dispiriting is a good way to describe it.

Posted by: IC at August 02, 2016 08:42 PM (KTFfX)

723 This IS CETI ALPHA V!!!

Posted by: Khan at August 02, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

724 #690
Here's the difference between Trump and Hillary.

Trump says bad things. Sometimes, offensive things.

Hillary does bad things. Criminal things. It's not just the unsecured emails. It's the millions she makes from the Clinton Foundation. She literally profits off misery. Earthquake in Haiti? Cha-Ching! Flood in Nepal? Cha-Ching!

You tell me who's worse. To me, it isn't even close.

Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 08:43 PM (c056A)

725 Maet: "You used to be able to talk about political things here and express your thoughts on them. But I guess that is no longer operative."

Puzzled as to basic meaning here, but assuming the conventional one, are we reading the same blog any more?

There's some spitwads thrown around here all the time. Most keep things within certain bounds. Haven't noticed that changing lately.

Could be me. I miss a lot of threads entirely.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:44 PM (QDnY+)

726 If Trump doesn't win, expect more of these type of backroom deals to try to bribe Islamists ie give money for prisoners.

The Obama administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran

https://twitter.com/wsj/status/760626764062261248

Posted by: Thrawn at August 02, 2016 08:44 PM (cC/ZB)

727 You are very predictable.
Posted by: runner at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (c6/9Q)

I prefer "consistent" ☺ but I'm not always good at that either.

In a perfect world, you'd be right. They are just too many LIV's to compensate for.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (lcUJ5)

728 sven, yeah any dreams of capturing Berniebot votes for Trump originated in a crack pipe.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (qtgOZ)

729 710 Was anyone that was supportive of Trump 2 weeks ago really backing out now over this made up controversy?
Posted by: Julius at August 02, 2016 08:39 PM (Jzg4b)

It's not about who supported or supports him them and now.

It's about who was on the fence and considering supporting him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (9P3OG)

730 Back in the real world; I highly doubt ANYONE that would consider voting for Trump would pay any attention to some finger-wagging third-world semi-crooked immigration lawyer riding on the back of his son's sacrifice.

He's the kind of person that gets tuned out reflexively, whether he's beefing at the homeowner's association about somebody's hedges or playing the 'my son's a dead hero!' card for the Donks on national TV.

Your son's a hero, jagoff. You're not.

Capich?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (nd1zx)

731 "But I guess that is no longer operative."

Everyone is afraid. me too :-)

But keep the faith. As a famous General once said, "Just give me 3 volleys".

That was back in the days when Continentals hacked their opponents to death or stabbed them with a bayonet.

Trump as General Morgan. We are at Cowpens. Butcher Tarleton has ordered no quarter.

Posted by: Ok at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (CRXed)

732 "CONFIRMED: Pollsters Loading Polls with Democrats to Give Hillary a Lead Over Trump"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/new-polls/

Stop believing the polls on MSM sites. Look at the crowds at Trump rallies. They overflow. At Hillary rallies she can't fill a room much less overflow it.

Posted by: Writer911 at August 02, 2016 08:46 PM (GS+c9)

733 "whoinhell wants to conserve the Uniparty?"

::: discreet cough :::

Posted by: The Crony-Capitalist Donor Class at August 02, 2016 08:46 PM (noWW6)

734

This too shall pass.

Believe me.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:46 PM (qtgOZ)

735 644 I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that Trump is unfit for office.

AND No one says a word. No one.

Not a single republican has called him out. And we wonder why Trump suffers in the polls this week.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 02, 2016 08:24 PM (NNq1n)

It was a not so veiled Threat to anybody who supports Trump with harm. Other foreign leaders are piling on.

American Citizens and American Interests are the enemy.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 08:46 PM (Z+1Ng)

736 Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:40 PM (QDnY+)

I'm inside the beltway and have been my entire life, and I know these people. I see what happens with a dem admin, and I know what happens when there isn't a turnover.

I'm still disappointed though, although not surprised, that all the lip service the republicans gave us had no basis AT ALL. It was fake. Between the establishment mooks, who I knew were squishes, and the complete idiocy of the phony "principle" virtue signalers I'm disgusted.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (eSQgj)

737 From Gateway pundit:

CONFIRMED: Pollsters Loading Polls with Democrats to Give Hillary a Lead Over Trump

http://tinyurl.com/hq7xf7b

I suppose this could be something. Gird your loins.

Posted by: willy at August 02, 2016 08:25 PM (Ffw22)

That has been known for some time.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (P/kVC)

738 Siren atop Drudge: Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (+FSld)

739 I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that Trump is unfit for office.

AND No one says a word. No one.

Not a single republican has called him out. And we wonder why Trump suffers in the polls this week.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 02, 2016 08:24 PM (NNq1n)

It was a not so veiled Threat to anybody who supports Trump with harm. Other foreign leaders are piling on.

American Citizens and American Interests are the enemy.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 08:46 PM (Z+1Ng)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (Ozsfq)

740 reform highlander: post of the day! Possibly year. Thank you!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (I7SKu)

741 This proves Trump was never going to win the election, that he is the worst candidate ever, that he is a monster and is probably Putin's secret gay lover, and must be stopped at all costs, because his taking office would destroy the country and our constitution forever.

That said, I do not support Hillary for President.

Posted by: Proud #NeverTrumper and Cuckservative Wearing a Onesie Suit at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (7cRC4)

742 I'm also amused by the Monday morning armchair quarterbacks with their, "but Trump/Romney/McCain should have said XYZ!!!!"

Trump is Trump and will say what Trump says. Same with the rest of our nominees. Again, we have NO control over what comes out of their mouths. Can we hope that they say what we want to hear or what we think is best for them to say? Of course. But 90% of the time, we are going to be disappointed. They are humans, just like us. They react on the spot, just like we do.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (+eR2D)

743 Siren atop Drudge: Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (+FSld)

And it's Trump who is unfit to be President ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (Ozsfq)

744 I'll reiterate, I really don't think Trumps a bad candidate.

I don't believe the polls and I don't think the FAB is going to win.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (7C/kB)

745 44 I cannot believe(although I have been living through Obama for the past eight years, why am I shocked) that a sitting president would say from the podium in the WH today, in front of a foreign prime minister, that Trump is unfit for office.

This Stephen Hawking guy sure does suck at math.

Posted by: Barbie doll at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (DrG2I)

746

Anyone considered that Capt Kahn was a deep mole, supporting his daddy's radical Islamist views, and just bought a dirt nap as part of his cover duties?

Posted by: Some Dude at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (qul7b)

747 How many terrorists attacks have to go down in Rio before Trump comes back up a point... gonna be a long Summer Olympics for the UniParty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 02, 2016 08:49 PM (P/kVC)

748 jumping to the bottom.....

Posted by: Jake at August 02, 2016 08:49 PM (JQ/GP)

749 Thanks sven, hairy, and baron for your comments. Seriously.

I do think, for what I want to do, mag-fed bolt action is an option.

My favorite rifle is a Rem 700 in 308. But its 24", laminate stock, bipod, and 4x12 scoped. Holds a nice group. Excellent to set up with ... but not a carry rifle.

I'm going to look at mag-fed bolt-action .308 more for a field rifle. Those are all excellent suggestions. Please send me any pics/vids/reviews. Be glad to give you my personal email if you'd like.

Seriously.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 02, 2016 08:49 PM (fiGNd)

750 it is all fun and games until the EBT cards stop working

Posted by: Jake at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (JQ/GP)

751 "Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed"

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (9ym/8)

752 728 Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (qtgOZ)

We'll get some maybe 5-10% tops of people genuine in their horror at her vileness....

not enough to justify it as a primary focus as I fear trump is taking for granted.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (SzZnW)

753 "Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (MpfHK)

Lost your Shine Box?"
________________
I don't get this comment. Really I'm being sincere with my Pence question and that I don't understand the above.

Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (MpfHK)

754 Can you imagine what would've happened if W., in August of '08 said from the podium that Barky was unfit for the presidency?

Or Reagan saying that about Dukakis?

Or even Slick saying it about W? They would've tried to give Slick a pass I imagine, but he wasn't this crass.

This is the first time a sitting 2 term president has gotten in the fray this way.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (DW+jj)

755 701 If it is propaganda to blindly push to win then yes, may be that is what is going on.

Guarantee you that SJW's and the entire Progressive left will not be letting you, or anyone else, run a site as we know it here in 5 years...the BS trigerring and censoring on the college campuses will find its way to management content on the internet, radio(goodbye Rush as we have known him, etC)....everywhere.

Welcome to the University of the USA ...with all the current total BS SJW crap being the ruling imperative.

GET ALL PISSY ABOUT 'PROPAGANDA' now......You will remember these days of propaganda fondly in just a few, very short years under the rule of Queen Vagina.

Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at August 02, 2016 08:51 PM (3ZttN)

756 751 "Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed"

Sounds about right.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (9ym/

Lets give MORE money to a state sponsor of terrorism and wannabe nuclear power. Brilliant!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:51 PM (0mRoj)

757 Or Reagan saying that about Dukakis?

Posted by: publius

I remember Ronnie referring to Dukakis as an "out-and-out liberal" or words to that effect.

Posted by: Gran at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (lcUJ5)

758 Writer911, it's an inscrutable mess out there any more.

Towards the end in 2012, Bambi's rallies were small and lifeless. In his last one he slumped on the lectern, grim-faced, and delivered his infamous "vote for revenge" line (still stunning how degraded the US has become in such a short time that such a vile dumbshit could ever hold any high office).

Meanwhile Romney's rallies were overflowing (he had to continually switch to larger venues, while the president's campaign switched to smaller ones).

Yet you know the result. "Historic" - first time an incumbent ever won re-election with fewer popular and electoral votes than the first time, I think. And not all of that is due to the abnormal (disgraceful, bizarre) high numbers in 2008.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (QDnY+)

759 Drudge: Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed

Paying the bounty, I guess.

Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (mxCgt)

760 743 Siren atop Drudge: Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 02, 2016 08:47 PM (+FSld)

And it's Trump who is unfit to be President ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (Ozsfq)

I just saw that. I am sick to my stomach. I've mentioned before that my first boss at State was one of the hostages held for 444 days, because we didn't negotiate with terrorists. But apparently we can pony up 400 mil for 4 (FOUR????!!!!) guys. 100 mil a person. I hope State issues a travel warning for AmCits anywhere near an Iranian border, because it's apparently lucrative for them to kidnap Americans.

The best part is Kerry saying that Iran was using the money for humanitarian purposes. How the hell does he know that???

Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (ezHMO)

761 740
reform highlander: post of the day! Possibly year. Thank you!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:48 PM (I7SKu)

How cute. It's almost like...........

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (eSQgj)

762 whoa

Posted by: Keanu at August 02, 2016 08:53 PM (qtgOZ)

763 "American Citizens and American Interests are the enemy. "

Yup.

Glad the word is getting out on this at last. Pass it on.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 02, 2016 08:53 PM (gUoN4)

764
Looking forward to Haj 9/9 - 9/14. Nothing like a few thousand trampled to death muslims. Even better is how the scoop up the crushed bodies with a bulldozer and dump them into the back of dump trucks.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 08:53 PM (iQIUe)

765 The best part is Kerry saying that Iran was using the money for humanitarian purposes. How the hell does he know that???
Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 08:52 PM (ezHMO)

He doesn't. It's pure horseshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:53 PM (0mRoj)

766 Trump as General Morgan. We are at Cowpens. Butcher Tarleton has ordered no quarter.

Posted by: Ok at August 02, 2016 08:45 PM (CRXed)

Guess you'd better put up a fight and make them pay a price, right? Or are you suggesting all is lost and you're just gonna lie back and take it so it's over quickly?

FML, I am so tired of all the whining and sniveling and excuse making. Take some of that energy and put it to use doing something.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 02, 2016 08:54 PM (qbnYE)

767 400. Mill in tax dollars to Iran. If that's not in a trump commercial in 10 minutes someone ought to be fired.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 02, 2016 08:54 PM (Dc/ui)

768 I want to talk about Hillary for a minute.

The director of the FBI basically said that she lied all over the place, and the only reason she wasn't getting indicted for mishandling classified information was that she was too befuddled and senile to understand what she was doing.

How did Hillary respond to this? Did she go on a tirade against Comey? Did she and her surrogates call her a Republican stooge? Did they impugn his character? Did she talk constantly about how he was wrong?

No. She ignored the whole thing. And when pressed on it, she acted as if she had been vindicated.

That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to lose interest.

Imagine if she had taken the Trump approach. Full attack mode against Comey. That fight would be in the news constantly. And she would be broadcasting to the world that this was hurting her.

Trump tells you when you've wounded him. He lashes out in rage, and keeps the fact that you've wounded him in the news.

The greatest sports-movie speech of all time was made by Sly Stallone in Rocky Balboa. Here's the most important part: "It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can *get* hit, and keep moving forward." Hillary understands that you have to take hits sometimes, and you keep moving forward. When Trump gets hit, he's thrown complete off his game and moves in every direction but forward.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:54 PM (I7SKu)

769 20 quatloos says that $400 million goes to support Hezbollah, nuclear arms technology or both.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:55 PM (0mRoj)

770 It's pure horseshit.

I see what you did there...

Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:55 PM (RrDm2)

771 Why does bikini island come to mind now?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 08:56 PM (6Ll1u)

772 770 It's pure horseshit.

I see what you did there...
Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:55 PM (RrDm2)

You beat me to it : )

Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 08:57 PM (ezHMO)

773 This is good. Barky secretly arranged a freakin' airlift of pallets of cash, saying mostly euro and Swiss francs, plus other currencies. $400 million worth, procuring them via a deal with the SNB (for the francs) and the CB of the Netherlands for the euro.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 08:57 PM (DW+jj)

774 756 751 "Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed"

Sounds about right.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 02, 2016 08:50 PM (9ym/

Lets give MORE money to a state sponsor of terrorism and wannabe nuclear power. Brilliant!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:51 PM (0mRoj

Worked for us. Thanks Barack.

Posted by: Turkish Caliphate now with NATO and Nukes at August 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Z+1Ng)

775 I heard Hillary has late stage syphilis and is a sociopath to boot. She bald face lies in a disturbing manner indicating a break with reality. When will she release her medical records?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 02, 2016 08:57 PM (j1Wvr)

776 770 It's pure horseshit.

I see what you did there...
Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 08:55 PM (RrDm2)

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:58 PM (0mRoj)

777 Yep, the new, "historic" low Obama set today in his comments overseas about Trump being unfit is sort of breath-taking.

Saying it here would be horrible enough.

Overseas? It takes "un-presidential" to a new low - and that's saying something since 2009.

Not such a mystery how long-involved, experienced people could start to feel like they're in an alien country, and no longer feel much kinship to their "countrymen" beyond the inertial ones.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 08:58 PM (QDnY+)

778 No. She ignored the whole thing. And when pressed on it, she acted as if she had been vindicated.

That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You
pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to
lose interest.

Imagine if she had taken the Trump approach. Full attack mode
against Comey. That fight would be in the news constantly. And she would
be broadcasting to the world that this was hurting her.

Trump tells you when you've wounded him. He lashes out in rage, and keeps the fact that you've wounded him in the news.
--

One big difference: the MSM is behind Hillary.

If Trump tried her tactics, the willing lapdogs would scream from the heavens 24/7 that he is NOT defending himself because he is GUILTY.

His ignoring it would be portrayed as nothing but GUILT by the MSM, who would use it to crucify him again and again.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 02, 2016 08:58 PM (tvyXw)

779 He doesn't. It's pure horseshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 08:53 PM (0mRoj)

Neigh!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 08:59 PM (+eR2D)

780 Yes, I am in despair. I have no hope. I saw the worst president of all time comfortably re-elected in 2012. At that point, I could no longer see the majority of Americans as thinking, rational beings, capable of weighing evidence and perceiving reality.

The thing that killed that year was the question, "Who cares more about people like me?" that Obama handily won, something like 87-13. Where is the evidence that Obama cares about anyone other than himself?

His contempt for people, even for people on his side, is palpable. Yet there we were--87 percent thought he "cared" about them. I decided we were done then, that our contaminated education system and entertainment system had done their work.

If you want to insult me or claim I'm not realistic, I don't care.

"The quick drain brained the main
And the ship's a'goin' down, me mates
The ship's a'goin' down
The ship's she's a'goin' down, me boys
The ship's she's a'goin' down
The ship's she's a'goin' down
Down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down...."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 02, 2016 08:59 PM (AroJD)

781 >>>Trump tells you when you've wounded him. He lashes out in rage, and keeps the fact that you've wounded him in the news.

And it seems to work for him, in this bizarre world we have arrived at.

Posted by: Max Power at August 02, 2016 08:59 PM (q177U)

782 Imagine if she had taken the Trump approach. Full attack mode against Comey. That fight would be in the news constantly. And she would be broadcasting to the world that this was hurting her.

Trump tells you when you've wounded him. He lashes out in rage, and keeps the fact that you've wounded him in the news.

The greatest sports-movie speech of all time was made by Sly Stallone in Rocky Balboa. Here's the most important part: "It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can *get* hit, and keep moving forward." Hillary understands that you have to take hits sometimes, and you keep moving forward. When Trump gets hit, he's thrown complete off his game and moves in every direction but forward.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:54 PM (I7SKu)

But why would she go after Comey?(hypothetically) He shielded her and basically got her off the hook. Unlike Sal when Sal asked Tom to get him off the hook.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 09:00 PM (ej1L0)

783 Her unlikability is tied to her exposure. To a lesser degree, so is Trump's. So he will play this out big and loud, and I think that's the correct approach. The media will decouple the two as a news category.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 09:00 PM (q6C1L)

784 400,000,000

Trump needs to hammer this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 02, 2016 09:01 PM (89T5c)

785 No. She ignored the whole thing. And when pressed on it, she acted as if she had been vindicated.

That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to lose interest.

----------

Sure, if the MSM and nevertrumpers got your back.

Never works for Republicans because Valeri Plame. And don't forget what's his face from VA for saying macaca .

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 09:01 PM (BS8yt)

786 Pete, seriously?

One missing teeny weeny element in your analysis: the actual state and nature of the press. That reality renders your comparison, um, well you know.

I officially retire from the senseless beating of this particular dead horse.

On to the next!

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 09:01 PM (QDnY+)

787 780
His contempt for people, even for people on his side, is palpable. Yet there we were--87 percent thought he "cared" about them. I decided we were done then, that our contaminated education system and entertainment system had done their work.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 02, 2016 08:59 PM (AroJD)

I can't disagree with that. On the other hand, how do Trump and Hillary compare on that question?

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

788 Read the tweeted DNC email leak about DNC coaching Reuters

https://twitter.com/TrumpVsMedia/status/760540191429799937

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 09:02 PM (7lVbc)

789 768

That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You
pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to
lose interest

It worked so well for me!

Posted by: George W Bush at August 02, 2016 09:02 PM (4A5fG)

790 768 I want to talk about Hillary for a minute.

The director of the FBI basically said that she lied all over the place, and the only reason she wasn't getting indicted for mishandling classified information was that she was too befuddled and senile to understand what she was doing.

How did Hillary respond to this? Did she go on a tirade against Comey? Did she and her surrogates call her a Republican stooge? Did they impugn his character? Did she talk constantly about how he was wrong?

No. She ignored the whole thing. And when pressed on it, she acted as if she had been vindicated.

That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to lose interest.

Imagine if she had taken the Trump approach. Full attack mode against Comey. That fight would be in the news constantly. And she would be broadcasting to the world that this was hurting her.

Trump tells you when you've wounded him. He lashes out in rage, and keeps the fact that you've wounded him in the news.

The greatest sports-movie speech of all time was made by Sly Stallone in Rocky Balboa. Here's the most important part: "It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can *get* hit, and keep moving forward." Hillary understands that you have to take hits sometimes, and you keep moving forward. When Trump gets hit, he's thrown complete off his game and moves in every direction but forward.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 02, 2016 08:54 PM (I7SKu

Er Um. Rocky lost the fight. But he won the moral battle.

Rocky 1 is a prime example of how Republicans fight in the past. They lose the fight but claim the moral victory.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 09:03 PM (Z+1Ng)

791 768, I see what you mean but there was no reason for Hillary to into attack mode of Comey. He basically said she was either a liar or confused, but he let her off the hook. That's why she kept her mouth shut.
Would someone let off the hook for a crime based on a technicality go off on the judge who threw their case out? Only if they were stupid.
Your points about Trump are correct. He should follow Hillary's lead, If the media would let him get away with it....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 02, 2016 09:03 PM (8HGb7)

792 Hell, this was real helicopter money. Pallets of CHF and euro plus other currencies airlifted into the mullahs.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:03 PM (DW+jj)

793 Our student body president will comply with any request if it keeps him on the invite list of the cool kids.

Posted by: Fritz at August 02, 2016 09:03 PM (WYh6/)

794 Can't seem to post a long comment... Just testing to see if the problem is with the post, or the comment script

Posted by: deadrody at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (q72NU)

795 Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 08:31 PM (eSQgj)

I got nothing against anyone who votes for Trump on those grounds, I just don't see it that way. None of us can say for sure what the future holds, but I think it's a fair bet, given current favorability ratings and the established history of abysmal performance by both candidates, that the next president only gets 1 term whichever it is. My calculus is to maybe get someone I want in 2020 (which at this point has been pretty much whittled down to just Ted Cruz). If there's no return to a Republican party I actually want to see succeed on its own merits (which didn't really exist before Trump, but I hoped that it could), then I'm just done caring and they can let in all the Democrat voters from foreign countries that they want. I was raised in a religion (which I no longer practice, but still hold affection for) where supporting secular political systems was actually an act of apostasy, so it's not so hard for me to go back to not voting.

Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (xf3KI)

796 Hillary Clinton hates me. Donald Trump is indifferent to me. I'll take it.

-----

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

And a combination moral busybody, man-hating carpet muncher, and grifting treasonous thief will *really* jam your shit."

-C.S. Lewis

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (/f6Nd)

797 792 Hell, this was real helicopter money. Pallets of CHF and euro plus other currencies airlifted into the mullahs.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:03 PM (DW+jj)

Yup. This wasn't some wire transfer. Cold, hard cash. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (0mRoj)

798 Someone was asking upthread about Ryan's primary. Ryan is spending an awful lot of money - money I'm sure he would rather use on other House races - on ads portraying him as a border hawk. Nehlen's chances might not be great, but they aren't zero.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (nFdGS)

799 Here's my thing, and, frankly, it's a repeat of something I've already said a few times on other issues.

Here is HS, responding to Ace:

"44 ...in general insulting a gold star parent is not a good idea...

Posted by: SH at August 02, 2016 06:45 PM (gmeXX)

Would it be ok to examine these horrible insults that have an entire nation up in arms ?

Posted by: deadrody at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (q72NU)

800 That's the way you handle devastating criticism. You ignore it. You

pretend it's not hurting you. And you wait for the press and public to

lose interest

Works really well if you have a (D) after your name. For an (R)? Not so much. Like I said previously, this was a lose-lose for Trump. No matter what he said or didn't say, the MSM would have twisted it against him.

Republican are in a no-win situation with the media. If you don't understand that, you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at August 02, 2016 09:05 PM (+eR2D)

801 795
The next president probably appoints 3 Supreme Court judges, even in just one term.

Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 09:05 PM (c056A)

802 Somebody needs to get in the face of this idiot Khan and the MSM. I am at the airport and they are interviewing him for the last hour and doing a hagiography on his son to no end. This is the worst propaganda. I don't give an eff what this one guy has to say, he lecturing us interminably, STFU MF. Who the F are you. I want to deport him for being a hectoring boor, and bore. FU. Lot's more Christian kids died cleaning up the mess that your idiot Muslim brethren have created for the world. STFU. Someone needs to take this MF out of the picture, with a good answer. No one gets the right to stand up there and lecture us. I categorically reject his self-righteous hectoring. It is his kind that have us so screwed up. This is war. These f33kers are going to do nothing but try to get us all killed. Fuck this mother f33cker.

Posted by: Marc at August 02, 2016 09:06 PM (w3Hwf)

803 Yup. This wasn't some wire transfer. Cold, hard cash. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:04 PM (0mRoj)

****

Screechy Granny's State Dept. "lost" 6 billion in cash. This is walking around money compared tomthat for these treasonous fcuks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:06 PM (YLidQ)

804
#BREAKING Trump's 'excesses' make you feel sick, says Hollande

Sez the guy who pays his hairdresser 10,000 Euros a month and cant keep his people safe from constant terrorist attacks.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 09:07 PM (iQIUe)

805 This had to be something spectacular. $100M in $100 bills will make one nice pallet load. $400M in $100 bills would be 4 pallets.

Now, I'm sure it wasn't all CHF100 and EU100 notes, but a mix. "Small bills", maybe.

This was a airplane shit load of money. Physical cash.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (DW+jj)

806 802 Posted by: Marc at August 02, 2016 09:06 PM (w3Hwf)

Khan's son and EVERY other US KIA in these shit wars represent ~ .0023333333r% of the fallen.....

Fuck the media

Posted by: sven10077 at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (SzZnW)

807 Pallets of CHF and euro plus other currencies airlifted into the mullahs.

If Obama wanted to reward and encourage their activities, what would he have done differently?

Posted by: t-bird at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (Z58Xa)

808 Screechy Granny's State Dept. "lost" 6 billion in cash. This is walking around money compared tomthat for these treasonous fcuks.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:06 PM (YLidQ)

And just how in the hell does somebody "lose" 6 billion dollars? Why wasn't the Inspector General raising holy hell? Why wasn't there a forensic audit?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (0mRoj)

809 Obama sent $400 million to Iran as American prisoners freed"
Sounds about right.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

If we don't, women and minorities won't vote for us. Please, think of the future, you white nationalist.

Posted by: Your Betters at NRO at August 02, 2016 09:09 PM (8GNw0)

810 Screechy Granny's State Dept. "lost" 6 billion in
cash. This is walking around money compared tomthat for these treasonous
fcuks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:06 PM (YLidQ)
Use a timeline to find out which country has it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 09:09 PM (q6C1L)

811 ScoggDog - I've got it set up with a Leupold VX-1 3x9 power scope. Took about five rounds to get it zeroed at 25 yards and it hits pretty much at point of aim out to 250 yards.

With the detachable mag the bolt action is not as smooth as a 700 or Ruger 77 but it's not terrible either. I haven't missed with it yet so it's not really noticeable in the field. Hopefully I'll come across a sounder of pigs and get a chance to burn through a magazine.

I carry it on an ATV and there's real powdery, sandy soil at the lease so it gets dirty. Sometimes can feel a little gritty when drawing back the trigger safety but the trigger still breaks clean.

I like it a lot, especially for what it cost. No worries to run through mesquite trees with it in a gun rack on a four wheeler, it shoots real nice, and .308 drops deer dead in their tracks.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 02, 2016 09:09 PM (fn3+8)

812 We dont have a free press. And when Trump said he wanted to change the laws to make it easier to sue the media for defamation, I agreed. Of course the usual idiots attacked him for it and by usual idiots, I mean conservatives.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 09:09 PM (iQIUe)

813 reform highlander, you're analysis of the practical prospects in DC are off, I think. Dagny's and mine are much more accurate.

There is simply no way to exaggerate the calamity - and the lasting effects - of Hillary winning, despite her criminality, despite the devastating course of the last 8 years, despite everything.

It's technically possible Trump would be as bad, but it's "technical", and silly, and improbable, for lots of specific reasons.

Focusing on the GOP as if it is an effective or healthy opposition party or vessel for anything you might find sensible, and focusing on the *next* president - that's just not practical. We may well be beyond hope in several respects - Hillary reduces the chances of recovery in most existing lifetimes almost nil.

As recently as 8 years ago I wouldn't have believed that - the US seemed to have a lot of resilience. Policies had political consequences (even unfair, or stupid consequences). Now? Seriously? Look at Obama's approval numbers.

It's no longer a pendulum, it's much more approaching a ratchet, on the federal level (and the "federal" level is now unimaginably low, and nearly ubiquitous, in so many ways).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

814 Whoa!

Posted by: DB Cooper at August 02, 2016 09:10 PM (JO9+V)

815 "It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can *get* hit, and keep moving forward."

YO ADRIAN!!!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 02, 2016 09:10 PM (qtgOZ)

816 And just how in the hell does somebody "lose" 6 billion dollars? Why wasn't the Inspector General raising holy hell? Why wasn't there a forensic audit?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (0mRoj)

Because granny lost it, Imsomniac. If it had been some regular state wonk losing five hundred bucks, the IG would have been all over their ass, and very likely fired. But certain people are,well, special. so special that 6 Billion dollars go missing, and the IG says, "Oh well. It's gone. Not our problem." I wish Trump would start digging into this, but the wagons have been circled, I'm sure.

Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 09:11 PM (ezHMO)

817 The next president probably appoints 3 Supreme Court judges, even in just one term.
Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2016 09:05 PM (c056A)

And if Hillary gets to do that it's good bye 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments and hello legalized pederasty, bigamy and Billy Jeff a raping.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 02, 2016 09:12 PM (ej1L0)

818 And just how in the hell does somebody "lose" 6 billion dollars? Why wasn't the Inspector General raising holy hell? Why wasn't there a forensic audit?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (0mRoj)

****

Come on, you know this answer.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:12 PM (YLidQ)

819 You people are nuts, Hillary reacts like a classic sociopath, Trump reacts like a human. You choose.

Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 02, 2016 09:12 PM (o3L0W)

820 Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 09:11 PM (ezHMO)

Yeah, I know. They were rhetorical questions - and I pretty much knew the answer - but it's still beyond revolting.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:12 PM (0mRoj)

821 Over half the physical FRNs out there are out of the country, in foreign hands, BTW.

This is somewhat controversial, with estimates ranging from 40% to 60%, actually.

The US government has always used cold hard cash overseas for all sorts of "jobs". Hillary's little missing billion is part of that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:12 PM (DW+jj)

822 804
#BREAKING Trump's 'excesses' make you feel sick, says Hollande

--

This is good. Furriners attacking American figures always gets other Americans riled up.

I hope we can get a Merkel quote too.

Posted by: @votermom at August 02, 2016 09:13 PM (7lVbc)

823 And just how in the hell does somebody "lose" 6 billion dollars? Why
wasn't the Inspector General raising holy hell? Why wasn't there a
forensic audit?

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Fear of the Obama IRS and the Clinton FBI.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 09:13 PM (qtgOZ)

824 This is the most relentlessly depressing thread I think I've ever seen.

Posted by: eleven at August 02, 2016 09:14 PM (qUNWi)

825 It's not dispiriting at all.

It's....http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/new-polls/

It's exciting.

Trump 2016!!

Posted by: Drider at August 02, 2016 09:14 PM (6Xbsz)

826 nd a combination moral busybody, man-hating carpet muncher, and grifting treasonous thief will *really* jam your shit."

-C.S. Lewis

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

What ho? Carpet muncher? Like Hitler? I don't recall saying that my dear chap. Although I may have referred to her husband as a "trousered ape".

Posted by: Clive S. Lewis at August 02, 2016 09:14 PM (DrG2I)

827 The left has spent 50+ years working their tail off seizing control of entertainment, media and academia. Now they are gaining control of corporate America as well and control of economic power. Why? Because they control academia, media, and entertainment. Give them their due, they have won that battle and control that ground.

So conservatives are going to have to learn to stiffen their spines, and be willing to crush people like Khan. If you are not willing to do that then accept two other worse possibilities:

1. Slow march to surrender. Not 40 years in the wilderness, but forever. There is no coming back from what the left wants to do to America if they gain any more control over critical institutions like the military, intelligence agencies, etc.

2. Civil disobedience. The left will use violence in that case which means you either accept number (1) at that point, or resist in a more forceful fashion (aka founding fathers time).

Time is running out...everyone needs to start making choices and it would be nice if we did not keep supporting the bad guys...and yes Sharia supporting Khan is one of those bad guys. He is not your ally, or friend, or someone to be honored. He does not deserve your integrity or conscience. We don't have the luxury for that now...

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 09:14 PM (KhJh8)

828 Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

Good for you. I'm sick of these dolts. Main reason I came back here from NR. Too many of this type in the comment section.

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 09:15 PM (eSQgj)

829 BTW these polls are only true if you believe 45% of the electorate are Dems.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 09:15 PM (BS8yt)

830 Our government has the M.O. of a third-world banana republic. They just have more money to play with.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:15 PM (0mRoj)

831 Zero's statements about DT are completely explained once you realize he hates the country and wants to destroy it.

Also I'm pissed that I have to pay for this shit.

Posted by: freaked at August 02, 2016 09:15 PM (BO/km)

832 There is a question if certain "jobs" by the US govt have used what we might call "unaccounted for" FRNs. That is, printed notes that aren't officially in the Fed's accounting.

There was something about Tricky Dick using them, and something, still unanswered about the Watergate burglars having these unaccounted for FRNs straight out of Federal Reserve bank.

Fed Chairman was Arthur Burns at the time, a Nixon man, and he was likely in on it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:15 PM (DW+jj)

833 Because granny lost it, Imsomniac. If it had been some regular state wonk losing five hundred bucks, the IG would have been all over their ass, and very likely fired. But certain people are,well, special. so special that 6 Billion dollars go missing, and the IG says, "Oh well. It's gone. Not our problem." I wish Trump would start digging into this, but the wagons have been circled, I'm sure.
Posted by: Moki at August 02, 2016 09:11 PM (ezHMO)

****

Yep, Granny can do no wrong. Comey came right out and told us we are no longer a Nation of Laws, but of men. We now have Royalty.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:16 PM (YLidQ)

834 I think the USA pays for fuel for US Warships in silver in the Gulf

Posted by: Jake at August 02, 2016 09:16 PM (JQ/GP)

835 Like a martyr of BLM, Kahn's social media has been scrubbed, a day too late.

BUT, Trump is too stupid to run a google/bing background check on this guy before his counter attack.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 02, 2016 09:17 PM (P/kVC)

836 William Eaton exactly right.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 09:17 PM (BS8yt)

837
#BREAKING Trump's 'excesses' make you feel sick, says Hollande, pounding his latest barely legal extramarital lover in the bunghole.

=====

I fixed it a little.

Posted by: Mortimer at August 02, 2016 09:17 PM (qtgOZ)

838 Fuck it. The totalitarians set the ROE then by G-d we should play by them.

If you live in a solid RED State then go register to vote your entire family and friends in Blue states and in states calling for no IDs.

Vote early and vote often. This is War.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 02, 2016 09:17 PM (Z+1Ng)

839 Drinks for dagny, William Eaton and rhomboid shoved through port.

Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:18 PM (C8ztS)

840 839 Drinks for dagny, William Eaton and rhomboid shoved through port.
Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:18 PM (C8ztS)

Could I get one too? Hemlock and soda please.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:18 PM (0mRoj)

841 805 This had to be something spectacular. $100M in $100 bills will make one nice pallet load. $400M in $100 bills would be 4 pallets.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:08 PM (DW+jj)

You are exactly correct.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/us_debt/us_debt.html

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

842 That $6 Billion is either in Hillary's pocket or Soros', or split.

Posted by: davidt at August 02, 2016 09:19 PM (mkppl)

843 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 02, 2016 09:09 PM (iQIUe)

but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but butbut but butbut but but but but butbut but butbut but butbut but butbut but butbut but butbut but butbut but but but but but

Trumps a anal orifice!!!!!

Posted by: mad doggs everywhere at August 02, 2016 09:19 PM (WVsWD)

844 Trump is pretty stupid about some things. Aren't we all?

Posted by: freaked at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (BO/km)

845 Nood

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (YLidQ)

846 Nah, Insomniac, I'll make you a sammich.

Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (C8ztS)

847 We now have royalty?

Now? Let me introduce you to the Kennedy family...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (C9pBZ)

848 842
That $6 Billion is either in Hillary's pocket or Soros', or split.

Posted by: davidt at August 02, 2016 09:19 PM (mkppl)

Bribe money

Posted by: dagny at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (eSQgj)

849
That $6 Billion is either in Hillary's pocket or Soros', or split.

*cough*

Posted by: The Clinton Foundation at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (qtgOZ)

850 846 Nah, Insomniac, I'll make you a sammich.
Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:20 PM (C8ztS)

I'm not sure whether to be disappointed or grateful. I'll be well-mannered and go with grateful.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 02, 2016 09:21 PM (0mRoj)

851 That $6B is in the hands of all sorts of shady characters, the world over.

For example, take the Guns for Goatfuckers program they ran in Benghazi. Those ops needs lots of walking around money to be distributed to all sorts of shady characters.

The Us govt. has been doing this shit for years and years.

And, add in the idea of the govt. essentially counterfeiting its own currency for the really "black" stuff, and things get hilarious.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 02, 2016 09:21 PM (DW+jj)

852 Do be grateful- I have fresh tomatoes from the garden for a BLT!

Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:22 PM (C8ztS)

853 New thread.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 02, 2016 09:22 PM (q6C1L)

854 We have nothing to fear from a President Hills , there is nothing in her past to indicate she would use every lever of government to crush her enemies and reward her friends . NOTHING AT ALL.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 02, 2016 09:24 PM (BS8yt)

855 A related version of Calvinball:

Active duty troops involving themselves in politics beneficial to the right: Fascism rising, breach of our longstanding mores regarding civilian authority over the military, junta imminent.

Active duty troops involving themselves in politics beneficial to the left: #Lovewins

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 02, 2016 09:25 PM (WzlF7)

856 Trump is the nominee and I love and agree with all of his advisers. They understand what the people want and it's not the TPP or open borders. That's what's coming with Hillary along with a supreme that will uphold executive orders on amnesty and gun control. It's the end game.
The dems have nominated a career criminal and serial liar. No one ever speaks of her crimes, they are all on board 100% and speak effusively about her nonaccomplishments and vigorously defend her. They have their talking points and are ready to fight.
The GOP will never win another election. There will never be another chance to change things. The sad part is, there is a large part of the GOP establishment that is happy about this.
What about the people?

Posted by: Flowerbelle at August 02, 2016 09:26 PM (KZdWP)

857 Forgive me if someone else mentioned this above.

Barack Obama endorsed Hillary Clinton. Hugged her onstage.

What has happened to virtually every candidate who had the misfortune of having this President endorse... Worse yet, show up? Weren't there a couple of races where the campaigns actually asked him Not to visit?

Yeah, I'm still hoarding popcorn. This isn't over yet.

Posted by: Bluey Raisin at August 02, 2016 09:27 PM (sSxn3)

858 839 Drinks for dagny, William Eaton and rhomboid shoved through port.
Posted by: LadyS at August 02, 2016 09:18 PM (C8ztS)

------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't worry...I am on my pain medication now. The good stuff. So actually now I am rather happy!

Posted by: William Eaton at August 02, 2016 09:29 PM (KhJh8)

859 857
What has happened to virtually every candidate who had the misfortune of having this President endorse... Worse yet, show up? Weren't there a couple of races where the campaigns actually asked him Not to visit?

Yeah, I'm still hoarding popcorn. This isn't over yet.
Posted by: Bluey Raisin at August 02, 2016 09:27 PM (sSxn3)

Obama is the world's leading expert on being unqualified for President, no question about it.

Posted by: rickl at August 02, 2016 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

860 Where are all the military that claimed the ME wars were to keep the fighting there not here? But, Khan wants to ignore the sacrifice of thousands of other parents to line his own attorney pockets/massage his theocratic ego by bringing those same ideological crazies here?

Posted by: ever at August 02, 2016 09:30 PM (QZdJj)

861 Hey, nothing a repeat of 2008 can't cure.
We are just one central bank screwup away.
I put odds on Japan at 5-2. ECB is running 2-1. The Chicoms... who knows. And we're the piggy bank on which everybody counts.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 02, 2016 09:36 PM (FtrY1)

862 Some people really need to take a prozac. It is August 2. Everything happening now will be completely forgotten in two weeks after the Olympics.

Relax.

Posted by: Czar Peter at August 02, 2016 09:44 PM (JGNQ+)

863 Wow, just wow. I know this is pretty much a dead thread but Ace did not like this movie huh. Seriously Ace, this is an awesome post. This is what sets this place apart from everything else on the interwebz. Visceral rage put into words. Very well said and pretty on fu*king point.

Posted by: prophet sitting on the Group W Bench at August 02, 2016 09:46 PM (KIJKy)

864 To: nevergiveup
Or to anyone -- what does his 'shine box' reply to me means?
________________________
#689 - "Does anyone think there is a chance that Trump will make up some excuse (health or something) and drop out and let Pence take over? How would that even work? Would Pence automatically be the successor candidate?
Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 08:36 PM (MpfHK)"
________________

#696 - "Lost your Shine Box?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 02, 2016 08:37 PM (Ozsfq)"

Posted by: Alix at August 02, 2016 09:51 PM (MpfHK)

865 The good news is that the meltdown at Breitbart will be epic!

I can see it already "The Globalists, damn Jew Globalists!"

Posted by: lemonhead at August 02, 2016 09:53 PM (Rf3WB)

866 The Globalists!

Posted by: lemonhead at August 02, 2016 09:54 PM (Rf3WB)

867 Pew, pew pew pew, no pew. Is this my only option?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 02, 2016 10:03 PM (6Ll1u)

868 More cowbell.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at August 02, 2016 10:24 PM (chlMz)

869 Kind of off-topic, but:

Though not a Trump supporter, I would love it if they would run an ad consisting of Hillary! being interviewed about Libya. Introduce it with, say, Pres. Obama saying Trump is unfit for office, or some liberal asking if you want someone of that temperament making the big decision. Then cut to the question about Libya and Mrs. Clinton's huge, inebriated smile:

"We came...we saw...he died!"

Gives herself a slow clap.

That's character right there. That's who we want in the White House. I shed no tears for Qaddafi but this snippet really tells you something about her character, and not something lovely or reassuring.

Posted by: JPS at August 02, 2016 10:32 PM (9ziuC)

870 What Trump could do, which is completely unprecedented but which he could get away with, is ambush Hillary at a debate by somehow either bringing Pat Smith on stage or have her in the audience and guarantee she gets a mic. Many liberal heads would explode under the strain of the amount of spinning they would be forced to attempt.

Posted by: Idealist at August 02, 2016 10:58 PM (y5RJ6)

871 Everything happening now will be completely forgotten in two weeks after the Olympics.
Relax.
Not to mention 5-million Zika deaths in Florida alone!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 02, 2016 11:01 PM (LdMbv)

872 Posted by: rhomboid at August 02, 2016 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

I'm sympathetic to your sense of urgency, I was there in 2012, but at this point I have a hard time seeing it as more than the usual election year panic. Sure, it's horrible that Hillary has eluded justice and been rewarded for it, but the plus side is that if Hillary cared about the future dominance of her party and of left-wing politics as she does in your scenario, she would have stepped down and let another Democrat who polled much better against Trump (which would be almost any of them) run for the office.

Similarly, if Republicans were serious about the need to beat Hillary they would have dumped this guy for someone who polls better against Hillary, doesn't threaten down ballot votes, and is more interested in making the case for his own election than in hashing out personal feuds within the party and the American legal system. It'd be a lot easier to make folks like me take this seriously if you could make Trump take it seriously.

Also, it's not just Trump that concerns me, as I do mostly buy the argument that he would be better restrained by checks and balances in office than Hillary would be. It's things like Huckabee threatening Arizona with no federal support because one of the Republican senators (Jeff Flake) wouldn't support Trump or Giuliani talking about what a great idea it would be to electronically monitor people on the terror watch list and deny them 2nd amendment rights. Trump has actually done a great favor in showing a lot of people for who they are (Rubio especially), but it just makes me all the less eager to pick up this fight.

I get why others are supporting him, but there's a higher bar if you want to convince me. Not mad anyone who supports Trump out of pragmatism, or out of Ben Carson-style flakiness (I do hate those that argue he's actually a secret genius or he's just as good as Reagan or "he's learning", but you guys sound more reasonable than those people). I just wanna stick up for the honor of those who said "Nah, bro" to this whole thing.

Posted by: reform highlander at August 02, 2016 11:30 PM (xf3KI)

873 802...yeah, and "Fair and Balanced" Brett tonight was still dragging the Gold Star families...without mention of the father Khar being a Clinton plant...dots connecting to foundation, his own profits from visas for illegals, a lawfirm connected to foundation for millions, his website going poof as people (not reporters) started looking at it and his sharia readings. So, now, he does not want limelight but is still, in the waning days of his 15 minutes of fame, is milking the last few drops of his own black soul.

I am mostly mad at FOX not reporting the above. Pretty easy, really, to pull your head out of the sand and do some investigating on this man, this Hillary shill. How bout that foundation on Clinton Cash, Brett? How about them apples?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at August 03, 2016 12:55 AM (9A4UU)

874 Who the hell are these lunatics who can't make up their minds from week to week? And how many of them are there?

Posted by: Dumbguy at August 03, 2016 12:57 AM (0cUlH)

875 If this media crap keeps up I might have to find a fake name and email and make some lives miserable. Or become Amish. Probably the last one of no media except cheerful sites of animal babies and flowers.

Things are quite bad and no one is listening.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at August 03, 2016 12:59 AM (9A4UU)

876 Ben Carson, Rubio, and Cruz would all be up big right now.....just saying....

Posted by: Trumpet Suckers Revenge at August 03, 2016 01:43 AM (QSZu4)

877 As a liberal vet (who never served overseas, to be honest), my point is not that he responded to mr. Khans comment (or "insult", if you will) but the way he did it. Commenting on his wife staying silent? And now this whole Breitbart anti-islam ranting going on and on and on. Some of us remember the terps still. And he really has gone out of his way to loose the military vote, hasnt he? Pro torture and all that. Claiming Obama retroactively was responsible for Khan jr.s death?The sum of all the little "oopsies" is driving sane men and women into apoplexy, he is basically Cartman.

And I think this whole Roger Stone/Breitbart/Alex Jones vibe that seems to dominate more and more of his rhetoric is truly what will bring him down. Saying 3 months in advance that the vote will be rigged, and that a loss will result in civil unrest? Wtf?

Posted by: Fnord at August 03, 2016 02:27 AM (UmJWM)

878 NOT SO FAST.

Pat Caddell has blasted Reuters as unprecedented "back-rigging" of the polls to get the results they want:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/znjxy4z

In other words, they're cheating and lying again.

Still.

Always.

Posted by: Beverly at August 03, 2016 02:43 AM (5SnW5)

879 Pat Smith should have had a speaking spot on day 4 of the convention. None of the networks was going to cover day 1 or 2.

Posted by: Realityman at August 03, 2016 06:48 AM (Ch0fq)

880 Were any of Hillary's or Bill's crimes published or broadcast in Spanish-only news media? Senator Reid was reelected because of a very strong turnout from voters who got their news from Spanish-only sources, none of whom were polled by Reid's opponent. Hillary has the same advantage: people just don't know, and our education system actively prevents people from learning how to be informed. With a couple million illegally-registered illegal immigrants of voting age who are kept ignorant of her crimes, Hillary has a very, very strong ace up her sleeve.

Posted by: DaveO at August 03, 2016 06:51 AM (xkaSw)

881 http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/new-polls/

Posted by: Myshiba at August 03, 2016 08:13 AM (n20xt)

882 They're messing with the polls

And Khizr Khan believes Sharia law supersedes the U.S. constitution and makes money circumventing our laws to bring wealthy Muslims into this country

There is really no need to be even handed about this, the other side really is evil and corrupt

Posted by: Just Sayin' at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (+rQ5f)

883 The thing with Khan, that no one will say on either side, is we know little about him, unlike Cindy. Yes his son died, but how do we know his son didn't join the military in spite of his father's wishes. Col (capt? Can't remember his rank) Khan obviously loved his country and wanted to do everything to make it better, that doesn't mean his father felt the same way, for all we know Kazir hatred the idea of his son being in the military (like Cindy did)

It's terrible that he list his son, and his son should be given the utmost respect and admiration he deserves, but that doesn't necessarily need to be transferred to a relative because we don't know if they had the same feelings (and with new evidence Kazir's business is importing Muslims into the US for money, chances are hes not a huge military or constitution fan)

Posted by: Rbastid at August 03, 2016 10:33 AM (EeUOL)

884 "What the hell is going on?"

Well, just spit-balling here, but my guess it's because Trump is a lousy candidate who can't keep his trap shut and gives the in-the-bag-for-Hillary media every opportunity to paint him like the buffoon he is.

But, that's just my guess."

Said it better than I could.

Posted by: LTCHAM at August 03, 2016 03:12 PM (V/f/L)

885 Great piece. Couldn't agree more. I'm still not voting for Trump, but I'm also getting sick of the unity of feeling on the left and right on how superb and good they are because they agree that the outrageous and personally insulting things that Trump INTENTIONALLY says to get attention are outrageous and insulting.

I'm tired of the whole cycle. I'm also tired of people pretending like Trump could ever stop doing this. It's what he does, and no, it's not racist. He insults everyone in his way, white, black, Christian, Muslim, whatever. Like, he nicknamed his while male Christian opponent Lyin' Ted. But somehow Trump is a racist because he takes a shot at Kahn's wife. No, he's an egomaniac who insults everyone who slights him, even in a minor way.

Posted by: gts109 at August 04, 2016 09:55 AM (Deogo)

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