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Trump's Daily Outrageous Statement and Chesterton's Open Field
Today, Trump -- half-jokingly, but, I think it's fair to say, only half -- said he hopes Russia searches its records for the emails it already hacked from Hillary and lets the rest of us see them.
This has provoked the standard scheduled howl of outrage from the liberal press -- and from the increasingly poorly-named conservative press as well. I want to talk about this. I think it's interesting. I pointed out, on Twitter, that the number of political conversation I've been in with conservatives -- many of the #NeverTrump stripe, or at least #AlmostNeverTrump variety -- in which the question "When will Russia release the emails they've hacked from Hillary?" did not come up as conversation fodder can be counted on a single hand. In fact, they can be counted on a single thumb. This is one of the most popular parlor games in GOP circles -- asking: 1. Did Russia hack the emails? Almost everyone thinks they certainly did, as did the Chinese and other factions. 2. Will they keep the emails to hold over Hillary as blackmail material -- keeping their own pet president, compromised or controlled -- or will they release them? I have long thought they'd do the former, and have said so repeatedly. But now that they're leaking all the DNC emails, I think I was wrong. I guess they are going to release them. Or maybe the DNC leak is a warning shot: This is just a taste of what we could release, if we wanted. And: 3. Wouldn't it be delicious if Russia (or China, or Julian Assange) released the emails and proved that Hillary was a liar and Comey a stooge? Now, none of the people who speculated about question three, including myself, imagined we were committing Emotional Treason -- like emotional cheating; cheating without the actual exchange of information, whether genetic or governmental -- by asking it. We thought, instead, we were speculating about the best possible outcome of an already bad situation. It is too late to hope that Russia doesn't hack Hillary's servers -- they already did. Thus, the only remaining outcomes possible -- once "I hope the hack doesn't happen" has been mooted -- are the following: 1. Russia helps Hillary get elected, then holds blackmail material over her head to turn her into an Agent of Influence. 2. Russia rips Hillary and hurts her election prospects by revealing what she's concealed from no one at all, except the US courts and US public. Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility. Why is it Emotional Treason to think that Option 2 there sounds better than Option 1? Conor Fridersdorf suggested that as a presidential candidate, the "rhetorical rules' that apply to Trump are different than those which apply to me, you, or him. We can lightheartedly speculate among these possibilities; as a presidential candidate, he must be more Serious and cannot so speculate. Do I agree with that? Absolutely not. A long time ago I used to routinely criticize Ann Coulter for saying something outrageous (like calling John Edwards a "faggot") or Rush Limbaugh for, allegedly, damaging the cause by saying "I hope he fails." When people noted that I say the same sorts of things -- or close enough, in any event -- I would respond: Yes, but I'm just a lowly blogger who no one pays much mind to. These people are important. They are influential. They must abide by a much more stringent set of social controls than I do. Lucky for me, I was free as a bird to say as I would! But these other people? My sorta-competitors? Why, they were bound up tightly, like Gulliver by tiny strings of hundreds of Liliputians. Later on I began to question my own glib answer: If I was generally free to speak my mind and occasionally (gasp!) use humor, irony, and shock value as tactics in public communication, why on earth would I claim that others weren't equally free to do as I do? After the Social Justice Purges, I began to formulate several answers: 1. Human beings like inflicting rules on other people that they don't abide themselves, because such rules -- vindictively applied to others, not aplied to oneself -- is a Have Your Cake and Eat It Too situation. One gets to signal virtue by condemning someone else's sinful behavior, while not having to change one's own sinful behavior an iota! It's akin to all those leftwingers who piously condemn homophobia while feeling perfectly entitled to call every rightwinger they don't like a c*cks*cking fag. You get to virtue signal -- while not straining under that burden yourself! Win-win! 2. Human beings' motivations are very opaque to themselves. People tend to think of themselves -- at least in their public, performative Online Theatrical presentation of themselves -- as so highly morally refined as to be above all self-serving behavior. They think of themselves -- or at least talk of themselves as if they think of themselves -- as nearly entirely selfless individuals, concerned only for the public good, whether that be equality in the case of progressives or the American patriotic interest in the case of conservatives. They almost never question their own motives. People love questioning other people's motives -- and yet never get around to questioning their own. One question they might want to ask themselves some time is "Why is it I keep attempting to impose rules on other I have excused myself from following?" They might blunder on to the truth, that every human is soaking wet with self-interest, and routinely invents "rules" to hamper an opponent while yielding himself an advantage. One of the simplest disadvantages to hobble an opponent with is to call him morally filthy according to the rules one has just made up, and to advantage oneself as preening as morally virtuous -- even if one ignores that made-up rule oneself. I would propose emphasizing a necessary implication of the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule says "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." I would stress that this rule implies we should be wary of social rule-making: The Rule implies "Do not impose rules on others that you find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself." Imposing vindictive social controls on others, after all, is an act, a means of treating other people. As conservatives, I know from personal experience, have been speculating about -- salivating about, if we're being honest -- the Russian Surprise for Hillary for six months, I would say they application of the Golden Rule of Rule-Making would say they shouldn't invent this new rule and impose it on Trump uniquely. Let me also alter Chesterton's famous fence, and talk about a parable I'll call Chesteton's Open Field. First, here's what he had to say about removing a wall that was already erected:In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.Brilliant and brilliantly simple: You must not engage in the destruction of a pre-existing rule until you fully fathom the reasons for the existence of the rule in the first place. Let us now consider the case where there is not a pre-existing wall which some desire to remove, but instead an open field -- where there is no wall -- where some now desire to erect a wall. Where some would now fashion a new social rule. It is useful to ask, "Why has this field never before had this wall? What was the wisdom in not erecting a wall to block one thought from crossing the space?" Should we not equally know why previous generations did not see fit to build a wall here, before we rush to put one up ourselves? And to that end, I would ask people to question why they have allowed themselves to speculate about a Russian Surprise, and yet never thought themselves treasonous for doing so. They might think like this: 1. Well, I never thought my thoughts were treasonous, because I was not hoping for the Bad Act to happen; it already happened. I was only hoping that the Bad Act have the Least Bad Outcome possible, and the Least Bad Outcome possible is the exposure of Hillary's secrets, rather than keeping them to hold over her head like a blackmailer with photographs of a cheating spouse. Or: 2. I think as a general rule people should be free to speculate, and let their minds wander, and generally spin out possibilities and scenarious without a lot of moral guardrails shutting down their thoughts and keeping them off certain trails, because shutting down thinking leads to far worse thinking that a permissive atmosphere for thinking -- even when thinking leads to bad thinking, an atmospere which encourages free thought rather than constant moral censure of free thought will result in the bad thinking being exposed as bad. Or even 3: 3. Jesus Merciful God, Author of All Thoughts and Gifter of Humanity with the Power of Speech, if I have another wannabe-priest moral scold tell me what new things I must not say and must not say I swear I might have to take my own life. I can no longer abide by the ever increasing list of Forbiddances and Blasphemies which stupid, selfish humans are drafting in Your name, O Lord. So before erecting the wall across a field previously left open, perhaps we ought to give a thought to leaving the field free for transit. And maybe we should give it a little more thought than it the two-neuron microburst it requires to put up a shriekey Tweet about. Guys, the left has erected enough walls across the field of thought. We don't need the moral scolds and peacock-preeners of the right building new ones and mixing more mortar for them. Anyone who favors freedom for only himself does not favor freedom at all. Every dictator favors freedom for himself. One's commitment to freedom -- of action, of thought, of speech, of joking around like a jackass -- is measured by the freedom one allows to others.
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Wow!
Posted by: HH at July 27, 2016 01:28 PM (DrCtv)
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New movie review!!
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 01:30 PM (326rv)
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My friends, we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency
Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM (bsDXW)
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imagine how boring this race would be if it was Clinton v Bush
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM (/CIN4)
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They want to be Lord of the Animal Farm Flies... every rule imposer who has ever lived. They can't stand the thought someone might not be under their thumb.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM (XQrf/)
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Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility.
Do we know this for a fact?
Are you extrapolating from 'they definitely hacked the DNC' to 'so they assuredly hacked HRC', or did I miss something?
Do we know this for a fact?
Are you extrapolating from 'they definitely hacked the DNC' to 'so they assuredly hacked HRC', or did I miss something?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (JS6HU)
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So, the lefties and the press (but I repeat myself) want Russia to hide the emails, so that the truth does not come out? And, not coincidentally, also meaning that Russia would have blackmail material on the president, assuming that holding the emails would allow her to win.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (7ZVPa)
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That's a lot of words there, Ace.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (llxLK)
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Everyone likes what they like and dislikes what they don't. All explanations are merely rationalizations.
Posted by: The Radio Receiver implanted in Hinckleys head at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (rwI+c)
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Looks to me like Trump is simply the first presidential candidate who knows how to troll. Whether that's good or bad, I dunno. Gotta admit his comment made me laugh my ass off.
Posted by: Mozam at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (A5oSi)
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If the Russians are making an email dump, they have a plan.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (iIzG7)
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dammit
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (rwI+c)
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But did Ace like the movie?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 01:33 PM (UBzPO)
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Trump is invulnerable to attacks at this point. It will be fun to watch as all this plays out up to November.. He can say anything with impunity.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (so+oy)
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I remember Reagan made a joke about bombing the Soviet Union from the podium.
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August 11th, 1984
"My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you that today I have signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes".
From the willow end of last thread.
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August 11th, 1984
"My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you that today I have signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes".
From the willow end of last thread.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (Gzt/W)
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I think it's clear Putin hates HRC as much as the rest of the world
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (/CIN4)
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"These people are important. They are influential.
They must abide by a much more stringent set of social controls than I do."
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Interesting logic. Because when applied to legal controls, apparently the opposite applies.
They must abide by a much more stringent set of social controls than I do."
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Interesting logic. Because when applied to legal controls, apparently the opposite applies.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (7ZVPa)
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"Do not impose rules on others that you find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself."
I dub this Ace's law.
I dub this Ace's law.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (39g3+)
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Long post. I do like the Chesterton story - I've long liked it and it should appeal to conservatives.
With respect to this issue, as a NeverTrumper (don't like the term, but using it as a shorthand - my dislike of Trump is nothing new), I do agree that the outrage here by the press is misplaced. And Trump did get the Hillary campaign to admit this was a national security issue. So on that I say Bravo.
With respect to this issue, as a NeverTrumper (don't like the term, but using it as a shorthand - my dislike of Trump is nothing new), I do agree that the outrage here by the press is misplaced. And Trump did get the Hillary campaign to admit this was a national security issue. So on that I say Bravo.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (gmeXX)
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>>>Are you extrapolating from 'they definitely hacked the DNC' to 'so they assuredly hacked HRC', or did I miss something?
yes. I am "assuming" t hey hacked her, but I think it is really less of an assumption than a moral certainty.
yes. I am "assuming" t hey hacked her, but I think it is really less of an assumption than a moral certainty.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (dciA+)
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If Russia has the 30, 000 emails, that is American property and should be returned. Nothing outrageous about the return of stolen goods.
Posted by: free range pretty much conservative at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (ZnIt3)
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There is no evidence that the Russian gov't has anything to do with this. The IP address came from a VPN hosted in Russia, that's it. I've used VPN's hosted in Russia (they're cheap)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (UBzPO)
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Outrageous:
1. shockingly bad or excessive
-or-
2. very bold, unusual, and startling
The choice of freedom.
1. shockingly bad or excessive
-or-
2. very bold, unusual, and startling
The choice of freedom.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (NUqwG)
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No more Mr. Nice Guy!
That's why Romney et al don't like the new guy on the block speaking his mind and pushing back against the mud-slinging the dems have been doing for decades now.
I want to see a debate moderator try and pull a Candy Crowley against Trump this fall. There isn't enough popcorn or pudding in the universe to celebrate that takedown.
That's why Romney et al don't like the new guy on the block speaking his mind and pushing back against the mud-slinging the dems have been doing for decades now.
I want to see a debate moderator try and pull a Candy Crowley against Trump this fall. There isn't enough popcorn or pudding in the universe to celebrate that takedown.
Posted by: Boots at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (EBwPV)
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imagine how boring this race would be if it was Clinton v Bush
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM
Bush knows how to lose with dignity.
imagine how boring this race would be if it was Clinton v Bush
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM
Bush knows how to lose with dignity.
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (IqV8l)
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Hillary's basement server was so unsecure any two-bit hacker could've broken in. If they knew it existed. You can be sure that just about every competent foreign power hacked into that thing. I'm sure they couldn't believe it. What, the US SecState has their own private server, running on their own hardware? Surely this is a ruse, a trap, and contains disinformation.
And then they likely found out it was for real, and she was that stupid. They've got just about everything of any import that was ever stored on that server.
And then they likely found out it was for real, and she was that stupid. They've got just about everything of any import that was ever stored on that server.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (DW+jj)
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Newly released e-mails are said to mention Palin.
I don't know if Palin could actually see Russia from her house, but it's become abundantly clear that someone could see Clinton's house from Russia.....
I don't know if Palin could actually see Russia from her house, but it's become abundantly clear that someone could see Clinton's house from Russia.....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (llxLK)
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The Russian hackers are just doing the job the American media will not do.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 01:36 PM (Nwg0u)
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Dems are shocked - shocked! that anybody would ever contemplate or condone anything might effect sanctity of our elections. That is reserved for them.
Posted by: Ripley at July 27, 2016 01:36 PM (1BQGO)
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When they put up Trump's quote about flat-chested women not being a 10, I laughed. I laughed because it was true. The man is vulgar, and crude, and arrogant, but damn sometimes his simple statements reveal simple truths. Much like Gavin McInnes, it looks like trollng until you realize he's just pointing out truth and heads are exploding at THAT WHICH MUST NOT BE SAID (MOST ESPECIALLY NOT IN POLITE COMPANY).
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (X/qvg)
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Yeah. As a matter of policy, while conservative individuals fall prey to this failing quite often, conservative thought and the best conservative policy seek to mitigate it. Those are things like The Rule of Law and The Scientific Method.
Leftist thought and leftist policy seek to exacerbate it, as when laws should be reinterpreted differently according to the needs at hand, rather than fixing the law for everyone.
Leftist thought and leftist policy seek to exacerbate it, as when laws should be reinterpreted differently according to the needs at hand, rather than fixing the law for everyone.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (2lndx)
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And to that end, I would ask people to question why they have allowed themselves to speculate about a Russian Surprise, and yet never thought themselves treasonous for doing so.
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For myself:
(1) Any damage that occurred, already happened. None of us (including the President) controls Russia, or other sovereign states. None of us (including Trump) are morally culpable for the damage;
(2) Hillary Clinton is morally guilty of causing this damage, because she acted with gross negligence in establishing her illegal bathroom server, which enabled such a hack in the first place;
(3) Information is highly perishable. We are talking about e-mails that would have been hacked years ago. The information they contain may be politically damaging, but the passage of time has almost certainly made the information less sensitive (and valuable for intelligence purposes) than it was when it was first hacked;
(4) I'll admit it -- I want to see Hillary squirm and suffer real consequences for her manifest incompetence and corruption.
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For myself:
(1) Any damage that occurred, already happened. None of us (including the President) controls Russia, or other sovereign states. None of us (including Trump) are morally culpable for the damage;
(2) Hillary Clinton is morally guilty of causing this damage, because she acted with gross negligence in establishing her illegal bathroom server, which enabled such a hack in the first place;
(3) Information is highly perishable. We are talking about e-mails that would have been hacked years ago. The information they contain may be politically damaging, but the passage of time has almost certainly made the information less sensitive (and valuable for intelligence purposes) than it was when it was first hacked;
(4) I'll admit it -- I want to see Hillary squirm and suffer real consequences for her manifest incompetence and corruption.
Posted by: Revenant at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (3DSAh)
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"You can be sure that just about every competent foreign power hacked into that thing. I'm sure they couldn't believe it."
I doubt many did believe it. At best they thought it was set up for purposeful misinformation.
I doubt many did believe it. At best they thought it was set up for purposeful misinformation.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: North Korea at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (IqV8l)
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If Russia has the 30, 000 emails, that is American property and should be returned. Nothing outrageous about the return of stolen goods.
Dammit Chumlee! How many times have I told you to ask questions if the stuff looks hinky?
--Rick - Pawn Stars
Dammit Chumlee! How many times have I told you to ask questions if the stuff looks hinky?
--Rick - Pawn Stars
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (GHHRC)
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I remember Reagan made a joke about bombing the Soviet Union from the podium.
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I thought it was 'before' a radio broadcast when the mike was not expected to be live.
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I thought it was 'before' a radio broadcast when the mike was not expected to be live.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (NUqwG)
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"Do not impose rules on others that you find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself."
You do realize that this rule would effectively abolish our current government, yes?
You do realize that this rule would effectively abolish our current government, yes?
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (iIzG7)
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Ace,
Conor Friedersdorf fancies himself an "elite," and loves the idea of being above the fray. His masturbatory fantasies about the perfect candidate are just that....fantasies. He would never hold all involved to the standard he suggested on Twitter today.
And I'll bet that if someone goes into his Twitter history he will find some pretty nasty or in-artful stuff, proving your point that people love to hold others to high standards, but themselves? not so much.
Conor Friedersdorf fancies himself an "elite," and loves the idea of being above the fray. His masturbatory fantasies about the perfect candidate are just that....fantasies. He would never hold all involved to the standard he suggested on Twitter today.
And I'll bet that if someone goes into his Twitter history he will find some pretty nasty or in-artful stuff, proving your point that people love to hold others to high standards, but themselves? not so much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (Zu3d9)
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Good post. I think it can be distilled down to two points:
1) Anything that helps me- good.
2) Anything that does not help me- bad.
1) Anything that helps me- good.
2) Anything that does not help me- bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (3ZoRf)
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I get some of my best stuff from two-neuron microburst thinking. Anything more gives me a headache. Just sayin'. And btw that's all I need with libtards. In fact I can out think them with one neuron tied behind my back.
Posted by: Goomba at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (tf/6I)
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"imagine how boring this race would be if it was Clinton v Bush
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM
Bush knows how to lose with dignity."
Please clap for president-elect Hillary.
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:31 PM
Bush knows how to lose with dignity."
Please clap for president-elect Hillary.
Posted by: Jeb at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (OD2ni)
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What he said.
But let me add some pedantic bullshit just for the sake off not looking like a total brownnoser in the comment section, and say your extension of the Golden Rule is,umm, pretty much the Golden Rule.
No extension necessary.
But let me add some pedantic bullshit just for the sake off not looking like a total brownnoser in the comment section, and say your extension of the Golden Rule is,umm, pretty much the Golden Rule.
No extension necessary.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (tewYv)
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So, basically, the walls between us and outrageousness have been knocked down? Or we shouldn't erect such walls at all? Maybe I'm undercaffeinated and didn't get where ace is going.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (RD7QR)
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Ace, this is why (along with the wit and wisdom of the Horde) I love this place. You are a very intriguing thinker and writer. Well done.
Trump is invulnerable to attacks at this point. It will be fun to watch as all this plays out up to November.. He can say anything with impunity.
I would posit he is "invulnerable" so long as he never apologizes. To apologize in this political climate is to admit you should not have said something. And once you begin admitting, "well I shouldn't have said that," your enemies can immediately fill the airwaves with, "you shouldn't have said this or that, too! When will you apologize?" And that's Teh Donald's Achilles heel, IMO.
Ace, this is why (along with the wit and wisdom of the Horde) I love this place. You are a very intriguing thinker and writer. Well done.
Trump is invulnerable to attacks at this point. It will be fun to watch as all this plays out up to November.. He can say anything with impunity.
I would posit he is "invulnerable" so long as he never apologizes. To apologize in this political climate is to admit you should not have said something. And once you begin admitting, "well I shouldn't have said that," your enemies can immediately fill the airwaves with, "you shouldn't have said this or that, too! When will you apologize?" And that's Teh Donald's Achilles heel, IMO.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (X6fMO)
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Clinton and her cabal wrote the e-mails and tried to hide them. Setting the e-mails free is not the immoral part even if it is done by Russia.
Posted by: huerfano at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (jkkMG)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (gyKtp)
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Brilliant writing. One of the reasons I hope you'll stay around.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (FQKBL)
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Democrats, 2009: "We love the Russians! They're our friends again! Thanks to the wise and foresighted foreign policy 'reset' by Hillary and Barack, undoing Bush's crude blunders! Yay Russia! Viva Putin! Forward the spirit of international multilateralist cooperation!"
Democrats, 2016: "IT WAS THE RUSSIANS WHO HACKED HILLARY! THEY'RE PURE DISTILLED ESSENCE OF EVIL AND NEVER TO BE TRUSTED!!!"
Democrats, 2016: "IT WAS THE RUSSIANS WHO HACKED HILLARY! THEY'RE PURE DISTILLED ESSENCE OF EVIL AND NEVER TO BE TRUSTED!!!"
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
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28 Newly released e-mails are said to mention Palin.
I don't know if Palin could actually see Russia from her house, but it's become abundantly clear that someone could see Clinton's house from Russia.....
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imagine for a moment if it was a Palin server instead of a Clinton server. An Everest avalanche pales in comparison
I don't know if Palin could actually see Russia from her house, but it's become abundantly clear that someone could see Clinton's house from Russia.....
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imagine for a moment if it was a Palin server instead of a Clinton server. An Everest avalanche pales in comparison
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (/CIN4)
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>>>But let me add some pedantic bullshit just for the sake off not looking like a total brownnoser in the comment section, and say your extension of the Golden Rule is,umm, pretty much the Golden Rule.
No extension necessary.
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you're right. should have said let me emphasize an implication.
No extension necessary.
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you're right. should have said let me emphasize an implication.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (dciA+)
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Russia using HRC's emails as leverage over her would make sense if they thought she wouldn't do what they want anyway. I don't think she'll be any more firm with them than Obama has been. Solution searching for a problem, I say.
And if she was firm, and they released the emails, so what? Impeachment by a Democratic Congress? Doubtful.
And if she was firm, and they released the emails, so what? Impeachment by a Democratic Congress? Doubtful.
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (U+nHb)
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So, you recommend this movie?
Posted by: Drill at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (DN9jO)
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You do realize that this rule would effectively abolish our current government, yes?
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (iIzG7)
You say that like its a bad thing.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (iIzG7)
You say that like its a bad thing.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (tewYv)
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well, the fun of watching the mfm attack Trump is that the cannot do it without sliming hillary with her email treachery.
seems like Trump has presented the mfm with a dilemma, maybe a knight fork.
seems like Trump has presented the mfm with a dilemma, maybe a knight fork.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:39 PM (AoSQU)
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So we're just going to assume Hillary's server was unprotected even though their basement was surrounded by Secret Service agents? Was this before or after she took a cloth to it?
C'mon, guys, this is the 21st century!
Oh, and great post!
C'mon, guys, this is the 21st century!
Oh, and great post!
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (mrfTe)
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I'd bet the psych profiles Russia and China have on the Clinton's made it entirely believable they were able to access her server so easily.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (LYCUN)
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I would ask people to question why they have allowed themselves to speculate about a Russian Surprise, and yet never thought themselves treasonous for doing so.
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As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
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As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (7ZVPa)
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Ace, good job slamming that squish Stephen Hayes on Twiiter.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Country Boy at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (oO+cT)
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Things like this are why I keep coming here.
There are about 50 more reasons, but posts like these are the ones I wish I am one day able to write.
Excellent as always.
There are about 50 more reasons, but posts like these are the ones I wish I am one day able to write.
Excellent as always.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (cPMmb)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (NOIQH)
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Ah, guys - this is EXACTLY the reason why someone like Spill that is COMPROMISED can't be President.
The "connected people" call her "Spill" because that is the slang term for a leak of top secret material.
For F*ck's sake, are we supposed to second and third and fourth-guess ourselves on OUR loyalty to the nation by acknowledging the consequences of foreign powers' hacks of the Sec. of State's personal email account that she illegally used for private business.
This is why the FBI should have pushed for charges and the DOJ try her. But we already have a corrupt government that doesn't care about Democrat law breaking or National Security.
If she's voted in, get ready for 4 to 8 years of that.
So, there is nothing to "contemplate" on "our end" - she is compromised, and unfit for office. Full stop. Trump getting caught wearing a dildo strapped on his head and buttf*cking Ronald McDonald while quoting the Satanic Bible on national tv wouldn't change any of that.
The "connected people" call her "Spill" because that is the slang term for a leak of top secret material.
For F*ck's sake, are we supposed to second and third and fourth-guess ourselves on OUR loyalty to the nation by acknowledging the consequences of foreign powers' hacks of the Sec. of State's personal email account that she illegally used for private business.
This is why the FBI should have pushed for charges and the DOJ try her. But we already have a corrupt government that doesn't care about Democrat law breaking or National Security.
If she's voted in, get ready for 4 to 8 years of that.
So, there is nothing to "contemplate" on "our end" - she is compromised, and unfit for office. Full stop. Trump getting caught wearing a dildo strapped on his head and buttf*cking Ronald McDonald while quoting the Satanic Bible on national tv wouldn't change any of that.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (i6shs)
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A thoughtful and excellent post.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (0mRoj)
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Of course they have her emails. You would be stupid, no wait, beyond stupid, to assume otherwise. So, when those emails are released Hillary is going to suffer mightily. If the emails aren't released that can only mean one thing: the various parties who hold them are getting better value from her through blackmail.
The press is who is on the hotseat today, or should be. David Gregory specifically. Why would any self-respecting journalist argue against release of newsworthy material? Explosive stuff?
This crypto-fascist POS David Gregory should have to answer for why foreign governments are entitled to read these already long-since hacked emails and we, the voters, should be kept in the dark.
The press is who is on the hotseat today, or should be. David Gregory specifically. Why would any self-respecting journalist argue against release of newsworthy material? Explosive stuff?
This crypto-fascist POS David Gregory should have to answer for why foreign governments are entitled to read these already long-since hacked emails and we, the voters, should be kept in the dark.
Posted by: MTF at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (/m8T6)
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Emperor of Icecream at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (JS6HU)
You beat me to it. Your first two lines were my exact reaction.
You beat me to it. Your first two lines were my exact reaction.
Posted by: moon over vermont at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (kUmUV)
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Just tell the scolds to go f themselves, it is not treason to speculate on what ou enemies are up to, it is just - prudent planning.
Predicting what the Russians will do is pretty simple - they will do whatever is in their best interests, not ours. Therefore I doubt that they will out Hilary before the election.
A bird in hand, so to speak. Not to mention that Leftists like Hilary and modern Democrats have traditionally been allies with the Soviet Union, not adversaries. (pretty much since the Johnson administration).
I think they would rather have a known quantity and compromised, very weak horse (reset, anyone?) than an unknown like Trump.
Predicting what the Russians will do is pretty simple - they will do whatever is in their best interests, not ours. Therefore I doubt that they will out Hilary before the election.
A bird in hand, so to speak. Not to mention that Leftists like Hilary and modern Democrats have traditionally been allies with the Soviet Union, not adversaries. (pretty much since the Johnson administration).
I think they would rather have a known quantity and compromised, very weak horse (reset, anyone?) than an unknown like Trump.
Posted by: West at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (1Rgee)
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August 11th, 1984
"My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you that today I have signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes".
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The Donks and their accomplices in the media had a screaming shit fit. Years later, after the USSR crumbled, some dissident in the USSR said that statement gave them hope because they knew that some in the US understood what the USSR was.
"My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you that today I have signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes".
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The Donks and their accomplices in the media had a screaming shit fit. Years later, after the USSR crumbled, some dissident in the USSR said that statement gave them hope because they knew that some in the US understood what the USSR was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (Nwg0u)
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As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than
two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
As my lawyer says, "Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
As my lawyer says, "Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (iIzG7)
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So, there is nothing to "contemplate" on "our end" - she is compromised, and unfit for office. Full stop. Trump getting caught wearing a dildo strapped on his head and buttf*cking Ronald McDonald while quoting the Satanic Bible on national tv wouldn't change any of that.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (i6shs)
Rule 34...
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 27, 2016 01:40 PM (i6shs)
Rule 34...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (0mRoj)
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Trump is invulnerable to attacks at this point. It will be fun to watch as all this plays out up to November.. He can say anything with impunity.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (so+oy)
And I find that extremely refreshing.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (so+oy)
And I find that extremely refreshing.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (oO+cT)
Posted by: x at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (nFwvY)
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yeah but you kick ass ace, and that's all that matters.
Posted by: concrete girl at July 27, 2016 01:41 PM (n636+)
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I think it's clear Putin hates HRC as much as the rest of the world
Posted by: Rick in SK
or, Putin is demonstrating projection of power. He has run circles around both empress mommom and JEF. And now he is helping to fuck her over the day before JEF ascends to those styrofoam columns of Yore. That speech will be fun.
And whatever captain kickass says, there's gotta be something in one of those e-mails that will make him look like a bigger idiot for being near her.
Posted by: Rick in SK
or, Putin is demonstrating projection of power. He has run circles around both empress mommom and JEF. And now he is helping to fuck her over the day before JEF ascends to those styrofoam columns of Yore. That speech will be fun.
And whatever captain kickass says, there's gotta be something in one of those e-mails that will make him look like a bigger idiot for being near her.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (326rv)
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Ace, have you been reading Michael Walsh's "The Devil's Pleasure Palace...?"
You thinking runs along the same lines. That quote "Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not."
Where did Bobby Kennedy get the quote? A George Bernard Shaw 1921 play "Back to Methuselah". The speaker is the Serpent.
You thinking runs along the same lines. That quote "Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not."
Where did Bobby Kennedy get the quote? A George Bernard Shaw 1921 play "Back to Methuselah". The speaker is the Serpent.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (4+VII)
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Thank you thank you thank you for this.
I heard about this and my very first reaction was why is this a thing, everyone, I do mean EVERYONE, has been sniggering for months about if/when Russia is going to release the emails. Hell, I'm pretty sure there were serious suggestions that Gowdy send a subpoena over to the Russian embassy to get them.
Oh oh oh but decorum! Gravitas! You just can't do that as a Presidential candidate!
Uh. Huh. See, here's the thing. I've spent my entire adult life being told I'm a damn Unperson who cannot exist and I've had it up to over Bander's head with being held to rules of decorum that require me not to respond with fuck you cuntlings to the erasure of my existence. So I'm not so inclined to hear pious speeches about decorum.
This is taking the Republican overreach meme to the next level. The problem isn't Trump's comments. The problem is that the Secretary of State of the United States had less security on her server than my tiny little law office uses to send real estate closing packages off to people. That's an actual problem. Trump saying what every damn person who pays attention to this has been saying for months isn't.
By the insanity of Cthulhu, this is asinine horseshit.
Also can we discuss that Trump held an hour long press conference? When's the last time Hillary did one? I know the count is over 200 days now.
Oh. Hey. Our adorable summer receptionist brought in cupcakes for my birthday. *heads off to mush into maw*
I heard about this and my very first reaction was why is this a thing, everyone, I do mean EVERYONE, has been sniggering for months about if/when Russia is going to release the emails. Hell, I'm pretty sure there were serious suggestions that Gowdy send a subpoena over to the Russian embassy to get them.
Oh oh oh but decorum! Gravitas! You just can't do that as a Presidential candidate!
Uh. Huh. See, here's the thing. I've spent my entire adult life being told I'm a damn Unperson who cannot exist and I've had it up to over Bander's head with being held to rules of decorum that require me not to respond with fuck you cuntlings to the erasure of my existence. So I'm not so inclined to hear pious speeches about decorum.
This is taking the Republican overreach meme to the next level. The problem isn't Trump's comments. The problem is that the Secretary of State of the United States had less security on her server than my tiny little law office uses to send real estate closing packages off to people. That's an actual problem. Trump saying what every damn person who pays attention to this has been saying for months isn't.
By the insanity of Cthulhu, this is asinine horseshit.
Also can we discuss that Trump held an hour long press conference? When's the last time Hillary did one? I know the count is over 200 days now.
Oh. Hey. Our adorable summer receptionist brought in cupcakes for my birthday. *heads off to mush into maw*
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (mf5HN)
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Be funny if the email password was "ilikepussy". I guess it could be for Bill or Hillary.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (OD2ni)
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Of course there is the slight possibility that Obama or one of his agents leaked the DNC emails because he enjoys torturing Hillary, wants to destroy the Clinton machine, and because he wants to destroy the old democrats to make way for his new young progressivies.
Ok, that's just crazy talk.
Ok, that's just crazy talk.
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (h/n4g)
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Hey Ace.. I don't think I have heard anyone speculate on another angle on these wikileaks emails..
Why wouldn't Obama or Hillary or the DNC simply dream up this idea of Russian hackers knowing people would at once try to connect Trump to it?
Someone hacked their servers.. but why would the Russians so blatantly reveal themselves - if indeed they have. We have no credible evidence that the Russians were involved... just second-hand opinions from unnamed "experts" (if they exist at all)
Remember.. this is the Clintons.. and the Obama administration.. they will tell any lie.. reveal any secrets.. as long as it helps themselves.
Why wouldn't Obama or Hillary or the DNC simply dream up this idea of Russian hackers knowing people would at once try to connect Trump to it?
Someone hacked their servers.. but why would the Russians so blatantly reveal themselves - if indeed they have. We have no credible evidence that the Russians were involved... just second-hand opinions from unnamed "experts" (if they exist at all)
Remember.. this is the Clintons.. and the Obama administration.. they will tell any lie.. reveal any secrets.. as long as it helps themselves.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (so+oy)
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"3. Wouldn't it be delicious if Russia (or China, or Julian Assange) released the emails and proved that Hillary was a liar and Comey a stooge?"
It would be nice to know how bad the damage actually is.
It would be nice to know how bad the damage actually is.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (hLRSq)
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Phew....took a lot of reading but I have to agree... Since when is it "treasonous" to want the truth out?You don't even have to answer we all know...
Posted by: donna at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (O2RFr)
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The outrage is as illogical as possible. The Russians are the people we would most not want to obtain these emails and why they were classified. They allegedly have them already so asking them to release them does no further damage but in fact helps us in the long run.
And the reason the Russians have these classified emails is because the person who was to keep them secure felt her own personal protection was more important than her Country's protection. That is treasonous.
And the reason the Russians have these classified emails is because the person who was to keep them secure felt her own personal protection was more important than her Country's protection. That is treasonous.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (FOeaV)
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As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
Grandfather Poppins used to say, "three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead."
As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
Grandfather Poppins used to say, "three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 01:43 PM (X6fMO)
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I don't care for foreign interference with US elections and never have. Its going on more or less constantly now when in the past, nations would not dare. This shows the weakness of the US government and people as a whole, and the willingness of voters to accept it.
In the past merely seeming to be part of foreign interference would turn voters against you -- clearly what the left is trying to accomplish with blaming Russia for the hacks, without a shred of evidence.
And I further expect the hackers to drop RNC emails in a month or so, when it will cause far more damage to the election for Republicans than this ever did for the Democrats.
That said, this kind of transparency is actually a net good for the political landscape and the country. It proves what has long been suspected and demonstrates what has long been said. The more evidence we have of the pernicity and evil of the political parties, the better for us all, I believe, no matter who it hurts or helps.
In the end, whoever is elected won't turn this bus around. Hillary would stack bricks on the accelerator, but either way, we're going off that cliff. So who these emails help or hurt does not really concern me in terms of candidates.
In the past merely seeming to be part of foreign interference would turn voters against you -- clearly what the left is trying to accomplish with blaming Russia for the hacks, without a shred of evidence.
And I further expect the hackers to drop RNC emails in a month or so, when it will cause far more damage to the election for Republicans than this ever did for the Democrats.
That said, this kind of transparency is actually a net good for the political landscape and the country. It proves what has long been suspected and demonstrates what has long been said. The more evidence we have of the pernicity and evil of the political parties, the better for us all, I believe, no matter who it hurts or helps.
In the end, whoever is elected won't turn this bus around. Hillary would stack bricks on the accelerator, but either way, we're going off that cliff. So who these emails help or hurt does not really concern me in terms of candidates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 01:43 PM (39g3+)
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It's issues like these where the #nevertrump pundits on our side are making fools of themselves, and will probably never been taken seriously again.
Posted by: Baltar at July 27, 2016 01:43 PM (n6tqt)
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yeah it is not so much whether or not the russian's have her emails, it is who else has her emails?
if countries with competing interests have her emails the one which is least likely to receive favorable treatment through blackmail has the greatest interest in releasing them.
if countries with competing interests have her emails the one which is least likely to receive favorable treatment through blackmail has the greatest interest in releasing them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:43 PM (AoSQU)
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Oh it's the Rooskies, all right. When the DNC first learned they wuz hacked!, they called in this networks security firm called Crowdstrike. They found two Rooskie-intel groups were "owning" the DNC network. They had malicious code implanted. These "adversaries" were known to be Russian intel. And one of these had owned the DNC network for over a year.
When their report came out, this "Guccifer 2.0" character suddenly appeared, claiming to be responsible. He was just a Russian patsy, who claimed to be Romanian. He couldn't even speak converstational Romanian well, turned out.
The Russians, and the ChiComs, and just about every other power worth its slat wants to know what the hell is going on with US political parties and a whole bunch of other stuff. This is standard operating procedure.
When their report came out, this "Guccifer 2.0" character suddenly appeared, claiming to be responsible. He was just a Russian patsy, who claimed to be Romanian. He couldn't even speak converstational Romanian well, turned out.
The Russians, and the ChiComs, and just about every other power worth its slat wants to know what the hell is going on with US political parties and a whole bunch of other stuff. This is standard operating procedure.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 01:43 PM (DW+jj)
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Insty linked this about Trump immunity, I think it is spot on:
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/07/negative-ads-bounce-off-trumps-chest.html
What scandal can Clinton use to dissuade his voters from crawling over broken glass and going to the polls this fall? Divorce? He's had two. Bankruptcy? Four. DUI? He doesn't drink and besides, he has a chauffeur. He gave money to a crooked politician? Yes, and her name is Clinton.
Yeah. Pretty much.
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/07/negative-ads-bounce-off-trumps-chest.html
What scandal can Clinton use to dissuade his voters from crawling over broken glass and going to the polls this fall? Divorce? He's had two. Bankruptcy? Four. DUI? He doesn't drink and besides, he has a chauffeur. He gave money to a crooked politician? Yes, and her name is Clinton.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (tewYv)
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>>It's akin to all those leftwingers who piously condemn homophobia while
feeling perfectly entitled to call every rightwinger they don't like a
c*cks*cking fag.
OMG, yes!
They say some of the most racist, homophobic, misogynist stuff but it's totes OK because they're mocking the "right" targets.
Just look at Colbert's Melania skit last week vs. the butthurt over any jokes or criticism of Michelle or Hillary.
feeling perfectly entitled to call every rightwinger they don't like a
c*cks*cking fag.
OMG, yes!
They say some of the most racist, homophobic, misogynist stuff but it's totes OK because they're mocking the "right" targets.
Just look at Colbert's Melania skit last week vs. the butthurt over any jokes or criticism of Michelle or Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (NOIQH)
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Yeah. All those words that you are not supposed to say or write. It's almost like that want control over your thoughts.
Funny. Racism is not illegal. Murder is.
Funny. Racism is not illegal. Murder is.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (4+VII)
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Once Bill Clinton, Loretta Lynch, and Comey colluded and decided that Hillary was an innocent spring lamb even though she consistently and willfully risked national security for her own gain and convenience, talking about those emails and who hacked them and what they should do with them BECAME FAIR GAME.
If we had an honest press, that would have happened, but, we have a press that celebrated her getting away with the server scandal, so PLUCK.THEM.TO.THE.MOON.AND.BACK.
Donald Trump can gleefully point this glaring injustice out for the rest of us who have no national platform to express our disgust and outrage.
If we had an honest press, that would have happened, but, we have a press that celebrated her getting away with the server scandal, so PLUCK.THEM.TO.THE.MOON.AND.BACK.
Donald Trump can gleefully point this glaring injustice out for the rest of us who have no national platform to express our disgust and outrage.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes Ima going long of popcorn and butter futures!! at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: goose/gander at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (H9MG5)
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Calling 5150 on Ace.
Posted by: Caligrump's 5150 resort at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (ucB75)
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Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (mf5HN)
I expect you bright and early at next Monday's health thread to explain yourself young lady.
I expect you bright and early at next Monday's health thread to explain yourself young lady.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (FOeaV)
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Left out of all the Twitter hand-wringing is the fact that smack dab in the middle of the Dem convention and the "first female evah!" circus, DT has stampeded the media conversation firmly back on the subject of Hillary's emails and national security.
Trump plays the media more in a day by 5PM than the GOP has in two decades.
Trump plays the media more in a day by 5PM than the GOP has in two decades.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (nhHaf)
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Unlike Obama, Hillary will have less flexibility after the election.
Because in her case, she would be 100% under the Russians' control, and have no option to ever work for America's benefit.
Not that she would anyway, even if she could make her own decisions. But with the blackemails (silent "e") hanging over her head, she wouldn't even have the flexibility to make a single anti-Russian decision at all.
Because in her case, she would be 100% under the Russians' control, and have no option to ever work for America's benefit.
Not that she would anyway, even if she could make her own decisions. But with the blackemails (silent "e") hanging over her head, she wouldn't even have the flexibility to make a single anti-Russian decision at all.
Posted by: zombie at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (jBuUi)
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As my lawyer says, "Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
Is your lawyer Tony Two Toes by any chance?
Is your lawyer Tony Two Toes by any chance?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (FeRav)
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@#84, Mary Poppins' Piercing:
I never realized before that my lawyer is your grandfather (see #70). We're practically family.
I never realized before that my lawyer is your grandfather (see #70). We're practically family.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (iIzG7)
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The Uniparty wants us to believe Russia is always in the wrong and need to be conquered by proxy. All I know is Right Now Russia does not want and fears the coming Nuclear war if the status quo remains in power.
I would not be surprised if the girlz and boyz in the Obama/Clinton/Bush regime fired off a nuke just to keep their power and keep Trump out of office.
Russia is terrified of Hillary becoming POTUS.
I would not be surprised if the girlz and boyz in the Obama/Clinton/Bush regime fired off a nuke just to keep their power and keep Trump out of office.
Russia is terrified of Hillary becoming POTUS.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (UkK38)
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Ace, Rush said "I hope he FAILS." You need to listen to him before you try to quote him.
I actually read all of this. Too many words. Keep them short and punchy.
I actually read all of this. Too many words. Keep them short and punchy.
Posted by: Dogbert at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (WQhlR)
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Oh, and remember Saint Ted of Kennedy went to the USSR to conspire with them to defeat Reagan. Luckily, Ted was just as successful with that as he was with KennedyCare.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (Nwg0u)
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What's the problem? Hillary had no information relevant to national security on the deleted emails so there's no issue with Russia releasing them, right? It's all just yoga and wedding stuff, isn't it?
Posted by: Thrill at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (kiJ1H)
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To the Fun Camp, stat.
Posted by: Caligrump's 5150 resort at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (ucB75)
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This is basically why I think it's unlikely that Russia releases Hillary's emails. They have so much more to gain by holding them over her head if she becomes president.
We're much better off hoping that Israel or one of our other allies ends up leaking them instead.
We're much better off hoping that Israel or one of our other allies ends up leaking them instead.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (KUaJL)
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well, the fun of watching the mfm attack Trump is that the cannot do it without sliming hillary with her email treachery.
Exactly, every attack makes people say "what emails?"
Exactly, every attack makes people say "what emails?"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 27, 2016 01:46 PM (WVsWD)
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What's the problem? Hillary had no information relevant to national security on the deleted emails so there's no issue with Russia releasing them, right? It's all just yoga and wedding stuff, isn't it?
Posted by: Thrill at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (kiJ1H)
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Exactly!
I thought her losing them was a big accident. Yeah! Someone found them.
Posted by: Thrill at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (kiJ1H)
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Exactly!
I thought her losing them was a big accident. Yeah! Someone found them.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 27, 2016 01:46 PM (U+nHb)
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really, Trump's call for russia to release the emails is in no way treasonous.
1. he did not call for them to hack the emails, which cannot be hacked form us because we do not have them since she deleted them.
2. russia releasing the emails would let us know what was compromised so we could take actions to mitigate the damage.
1. he did not call for them to hack the emails, which cannot be hacked form us because we do not have them since she deleted them.
2. russia releasing the emails would let us know what was compromised so we could take actions to mitigate the damage.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:46 PM (AoSQU)
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I did not watch it but the Savannah Guthrie interview of Obama, in which she pressed him a little on whether or not Cankles jeopardized nat'l security with her private emailing, might provide good clips for Trump to use.
He would not answer. He tapdanced.
He would not answer. He tapdanced.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at July 27, 2016 01:46 PM (U6f54)
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Rush said, about all that was about to happen after 1/20/09 was "I hope he fails."
I don't know what cause that theoretically would have damaged. If anything it should have been a rallying cry.
Instead we got Boehner and McConnell.
Rush said, about all that was about to happen after 1/20/09 was "I hope he fails."
I don't know what cause that theoretically would have damaged. If anything it should have been a rallying cry.
Instead we got Boehner and McConnell.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (27m1/)
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97 Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (nhHaf)
And BINGO was his name-o. To win the Presidency in 2016, one must beat Hillary AND the media. And Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. He's the only "Republican" I've seen do that is some time.
And BINGO was his name-o. To win the Presidency in 2016, one must beat Hillary AND the media. And Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. He's the only "Republican" I've seen do that is some time.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (i6shs)
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>>>Oh. Hey. Our adorable summer receptionist brought in cupcakes for my birthday. *heads off to mush into maw*
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (mf5HN)<<<
The cupcakes or the adorable summer receptionist?
Asking for a friend...
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 01:42 PM (mf5HN)<<<
The cupcakes or the adorable summer receptionist?
Asking for a friend...
Posted by: inquiring minds want to know... at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (H9MG5)
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Jesus. The other side is actively fomenting a race war which has a body count. They are open, not bashful at all, about their wishes to literally kill their opponents through use of the State. They are, currently, ruining and imprisoning people for essentially thought crimes.
At what point do you drop the pretense that we are in a peaceable kingdom? That the rules still adhere? We are on the precipice - you know that, feel it in your bones - of going literally Communist .
I'm m stoked Trump is as rude as he is. He might even stop this thing because of it.
At what point do you drop the pretense that we are in a peaceable kingdom? That the rules still adhere? We are on the precipice - you know that, feel it in your bones - of going literally Communist .
I'm m stoked Trump is as rude as he is. He might even stop this thing because of it.
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (WoTr5)
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Boy this guy Jeff B./@EsotericCD is just KILLING IT on Twitter right now with his lengthy series on the whole Trump/Putin/Hillary/E-mail thing.
Posted by: Jeff B., not self-promoting at all, not even in the slightest at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (r9zXa)
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97 Left out of all the Twitter hand-wringing is the fact that smack dab in the middle of the Dem convention and the "first female evah!" circus, DT has stampeded the media conversation firmly back on the subject of Hillary's emails and national security.
Yep, even thought the media is "incensed" that Trump would have the nerve to say this about their precious Hillary, it puts the e-mail question right back out there..... Bravo Mr. Trump!
Yep, even thought the media is "incensed" that Trump would have the nerve to say this about their precious Hillary, it puts the e-mail question right back out there..... Bravo Mr. Trump!
Posted by: donna at July 27, 2016 01:47 PM (O2RFr)
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CBD is dead on re: Conor Friedsdorf. He's supposed to be the conservative voice over there but he's conservative on about 3 issues and preens over anything else. I make a point to pat him on the back when he writes something supportive of actual conservatism. Maybe 3 times ever.
Defines "Inside the tent peeing on our sleeping bags."
Defines "Inside the tent peeing on our sleeping bags."
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (mrfTe)
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>>I am curious what the take of the NY Times will be.
You know...The Pentagon Papers people.
They are the ones with the stories on two of Bush's anti-terror programs, where the editor was invited to the WH where Bush personally asked him to not publish so that an effective program would not be destroyed (the terror financing tracking).
And the reporters got Pulitzers for the story.
You know...The Pentagon Papers people.
They are the ones with the stories on two of Bush's anti-terror programs, where the editor was invited to the WH where Bush personally asked him to not publish so that an effective program would not be destroyed (the terror financing tracking).
And the reporters got Pulitzers for the story.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (NOIQH)
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As my wise grandmother used to say, "If a secret is known by more than two or three people, better to have it known by everyone."
Unless you're a Democrat and the secret is only known by the press.
Unless you're a Democrat and the secret is only known by the press.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (2lndx)
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Thanks Ace,
This is why some of us, while thinking that Trump is not the best Conservative Candidate EVAR! Are very attracted to the notion that he thinks these outrageous statements out before he makes them. Just think pretty soon the DNC or whomever will have to make the argument that they were not hacked. Then the next questions is, how do you know? It is an never ending shit show for the Dems.. He just seems to relish the opportunity to kill the press.
And lets be real.. the Dems are not our real enemy. They are easy to beat when the truth is told because they are all lies. Their positions, their actions, and their habits, are all lies. The press however, has allowed these lies to be taken as truths, and this must be exposed.
I wonder how the Trump team is scripting the debates? God, I so look forward to the Kingsmen - esque head explosions..
This is why some of us, while thinking that Trump is not the best Conservative Candidate EVAR! Are very attracted to the notion that he thinks these outrageous statements out before he makes them. Just think pretty soon the DNC or whomever will have to make the argument that they were not hacked. Then the next questions is, how do you know? It is an never ending shit show for the Dems.. He just seems to relish the opportunity to kill the press.
And lets be real.. the Dems are not our real enemy. They are easy to beat when the truth is told because they are all lies. Their positions, their actions, and their habits, are all lies. The press however, has allowed these lies to be taken as truths, and this must be exposed.
I wonder how the Trump team is scripting the debates? God, I so look forward to the Kingsmen - esque head explosions..
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (EcmAX)
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Ace, You nailed it. Again. Then threw up some drywall. Gutters. A front porch. Doors, windows, maybe even some landscaping.
IOW, BRILLIANT.
Ace, You nailed it. Again. Then threw up some drywall. Gutters. A front porch. Doors, windows, maybe even some landscaping.
IOW, BRILLIANT.
Posted by: Biblio at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (7o8VY)
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We already know that the KGB used the Western press and other useful idiots to advance their goals.
What better way to advance them than by fucking over Hillary and everyone stupid enough to go near her? In an election year? With them screaming louder how wonderful and historic she is?
They are building it up, setting the scene for Putin to come in and kick the ladder out from under her.
What better way to advance them than by fucking over Hillary and everyone stupid enough to go near her? In an election year? With them screaming louder how wonderful and historic she is?
They are building it up, setting the scene for Putin to come in and kick the ladder out from under her.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (326rv)
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And Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. He's the only "Republican" I've seen do that is some time.
Since Reagan.
Since Reagan.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (8oSoU)
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The point of all this is we are talking about e-mails again, not the speeches by Bill Clinton or Obama's wife.
The MSM tried to move on with the "Positive" narrative, plus Bernie's folks probably like Russia and still think it is Communist, I mean Bernie loved Moscow.
The MSM tried to move on with the "Positive" narrative, plus Bernie's folks probably like Russia and still think it is Communist, I mean Bernie loved Moscow.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (KhJh8)
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It is better to have the powerful voice say what others are silently thinking because it allows those others to speak also.
That's why they want to rein in the language of Donald Trump. He bluntly states things that are un-said that desperately need to be said. The Left and the media and the rest of the Beltway Crowd do not want that because they come out looking like fools and willing dupes.
That's why they want to rein in the language of Donald Trump. He bluntly states things that are un-said that desperately need to be said. The Left and the media and the rest of the Beltway Crowd do not want that because they come out looking like fools and willing dupes.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (hLRSq)
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Oh, and remember Saint Ted of Kennedy went to the USSR to conspire with them to defeat Reagan.
Dems were always going down to Nicaragua to tell Ortega how to defeat Reagan.
Oh, and remember Saint Ted of Kennedy went to the USSR to conspire with them to defeat Reagan.
Dems were always going down to Nicaragua to tell Ortega how to defeat Reagan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (IqV8l)
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"They have so much more to gain by holding them over her head if she becomes president."
Yeah, but don't forget that in at least one aspect Putin and Trump share a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle and do something that necessarily isn't really the smart move, just because they're pissed off. (ie, the ongoing assassinations of journalists in Russia lately)
Yeah, but don't forget that in at least one aspect Putin and Trump share a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle and do something that necessarily isn't really the smart move, just because they're pissed off. (ie, the ongoing assassinations of journalists in Russia lately)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (nEOHE)
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Well, it was a good thing the Democrats got their Church Commission and stopped the CIA from spying on domestic political parties and those radical activists.
Now we'll never know how long foreign governments and their agents have been influencing US politics and policies.
Who would want to know that?
Now we'll never know how long foreign governments and their agents have been influencing US politics and policies.
Who would want to know that?
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (h/n4g)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (iQIUe)
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Rush said, about all that was about to happen after 1/20/09 was "I hope he fails."
**
And SCOAMF hasn't failed at all in his plans for the US, which was the overriding point RL was making but everyone was too busy with Plastic Jesus Worship Hour.
**
And SCOAMF hasn't failed at all in his plans for the US, which was the overriding point RL was making but everyone was too busy with Plastic Jesus Worship Hour.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (nhHaf)
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Trump is not your father's Oldsmobile.
The outrage of the NY Slime is really hilarious. Trump forces them to repeat the core problem, Hillary deleting 30,000 emails.
Crazy like a fox!
The outrage of the NY Slime is really hilarious. Trump forces them to repeat the core problem, Hillary deleting 30,000 emails.
Crazy like a fox!
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 01:50 PM (F1iXz)
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#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Cool!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (iQIUe)
One of the few Muzzy states to have a treaty with Israel.
#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Cool!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (iQIUe)
One of the few Muzzy states to have a treaty with Israel.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:50 PM (27m1/)
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Really liked it when Trump began the discussion about the emails when he noted; "33,000 emails were deleted AFTER receiving a subpoena." Pretty well proves intent right there. That is what the media is trying to deflect from.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 27, 2016 01:50 PM (22uju)
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And Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. He's the only "Republican" I've seen do that is some time.
Since Reagan.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (8oSoU)
I loved and continue to love Reagan, but, to be fair, he went around the press and beat them with charm and wit. Trump is actively attacking them and it is SWEET.
Since Reagan.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (8oSoU)
I loved and continue to love Reagan, but, to be fair, he went around the press and beat them with charm and wit. Trump is actively attacking them and it is SWEET.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes Ima going long of popcorn and butter futures!! at July 27, 2016 01:51 PM (kXoT0)
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Can't wait to hear what President prissy pants has to say about this...
Posted by: donna at July 27, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
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A liberal is offended when an opponent raises a good point. Their posturing tend to be the polar opposite of what they fear.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 27, 2016 01:51 PM (VdICR)
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And Trump is playing the media like a fiddle. He's the only "Republican" I've seen do that is some time.
Since Reagan.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (8oSoU)
I know this is a mashup of two comments.
Trump is his own deal. He is not like Reagan. He isn't even like Newt when it comes to the press.
Trump plays them like he plays everyone else - if they are for him, they are the best in the world, against, Hulk smash. He doesn't worry that he won't get invited to the cocktail parties he throws the very best ones, and if he wants to go to somebody elses he know how much to throw in the kitty.
He has their number.
Since Reagan.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (8oSoU)
I know this is a mashup of two comments.
Trump is his own deal. He is not like Reagan. He isn't even like Newt when it comes to the press.
Trump plays them like he plays everyone else - if they are for him, they are the best in the world, against, Hulk smash. He doesn't worry that he won't get invited to the cocktail parties he throws the very best ones, and if he wants to go to somebody elses he know how much to throw in the kitty.
He has their number.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (tewYv)
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I wonder how the Trump team is scripting the debates? God, I so look forward to the Kingsmen - esque head explosions..
Won't be any. She HAS to stay on telepromter/script.
Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
Hillz will have a meltdown like a little girl threw a bucket of water on her.
Won't be any. She HAS to stay on telepromter/script.
Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
Hillz will have a meltdown like a little girl threw a bucket of water on her.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (3rpCw)
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135 I loved and continue to love Reagan, but, to be fair, he went around the press and beat them with charm and wit. Trump is actively attacking them and it is SWEET.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes Ima going long of popcorn and butter futures!! at July 27, 2016 01:51 PM (kXoT0)
Both are effective. And my gut tells me that a President Trump is going to have to go around the GOP to get things done as well.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes Ima going long of popcorn and butter futures!! at July 27, 2016 01:51 PM (kXoT0)
Both are effective. And my gut tells me that a President Trump is going to have to go around the GOP to get things done as well.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (27m1/)
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"yeah it is not so much whether or not the russian's have her emails, it is who else has her emails?"
Yep. The Russians may decide it is better to hold on to them. Would the Israel make the same decision? Not if the emails shown hostility to Israel and sympathy for their enemies.
"yeah it is not so much whether or not the russian's have her emails, it is who else has her emails?"
Yep. The Russians may decide it is better to hold on to them. Would the Israel make the same decision? Not if the emails shown hostility to Israel and sympathy for their enemies.
Posted by: Ripley at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (1BQGO)
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So, much of the morally preening media on both sides is having an "Oh, my stars and garters!" moment?
I like this Trump character, he fights.
So, much of the morally preening media on both sides is having an "Oh, my stars and garters!" moment?
I like this Trump character, he fights.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (BK3ZS)
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#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Must have been a mole.
#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Must have been a mole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IqV8l)
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The kerfuffle over Trump's comments today is stupid.
That doesn't mean concerns over Trump's connections to and attitudes towards Russia are stupid.
As so often happens, the press is going after the shiny, contentless bauble and ignoring what actually matters.
That doesn't mean concerns over Trump's connections to and attitudes towards Russia are stupid.
As so often happens, the press is going after the shiny, contentless bauble and ignoring what actually matters.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (mFkVC)
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*flamethrows JeffB just on basic principle*
Insty linked this about Trump immunity, I think it is spot on:
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/07/negative-ads-bounce-off-trumps-chest.html
What scandal can Clinton use to dissuade his voters from crawling over broken glass and going to the polls this fall? Divorce? He's had two. Bankruptcy? Four. DUI? He doesn't drink and besides, he has a chauffeur. He gave money to a crooked politician? Yes, and her name is Clinton.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (tewYv)
I joked for years before Trump actually ran for office that Trump should run because what would the scandal be, that he didn't bang those twins?
Haha
hahahahaha
ha
ha
ha
*curls into fetal ball and starts rocking*
Insty linked this about Trump immunity, I think it is spot on:
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/07/negative-ads-bounce-off-trumps-chest.html
What scandal can Clinton use to dissuade his voters from crawling over broken glass and going to the polls this fall? Divorce? He's had two. Bankruptcy? Four. DUI? He doesn't drink and besides, he has a chauffeur. He gave money to a crooked politician? Yes, and her name is Clinton.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:44 PM (tewYv)
I joked for years before Trump actually ran for office that Trump should run because what would the scandal be, that he didn't bang those twins?
Haha
hahahahaha
ha
ha
ha
*curls into fetal ball and starts rocking*
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (mf5HN)
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Anyone think that if Jeb had been the candidate, which was all but assured until Trump crashed the party, he would be congratulating Hillary today for being the 1st woman candidate*?
*Shut up, it's the narrative, we'll ignore all those before her
*Shut up, it's the narrative, we'll ignore all those before her
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (NOIQH)
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Yeah, but don't forget that in at least one aspect Putin and Trump share a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle and do something that necessarily isn't really the smart move, just because they're pissed off. (ie, the ongoing assassinations of journalists in Russia lately)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (nEOHE)
yeah, sure, that's it, trump is going to start assassinating people. he could just leave them to die in far away lands to protect his narrative.
Yeah, but don't forget that in at least one aspect Putin and Trump share a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle and do something that necessarily isn't really the smart move, just because they're pissed off. (ie, the ongoing assassinations of journalists in Russia lately)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 27, 2016 01:49 PM (nEOHE)
yeah, sure, that's it, trump is going to start assassinating people. he could just leave them to die in far away lands to protect his narrative.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (AoSQU)
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>>I am curious what the take of the NY Times will be.
You know...The Pentagon Papers people.
Oh, and let's not forget their famous McCain's mistress story, which they got sued over
>>I am curious what the take of the NY Times will be.
You know...The Pentagon Papers people.
Oh, and let's not forget their famous McCain's mistress story, which they got sued over
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (F1iXz)
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Those cocks? Put them down. PUT THEM DOWN.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (RD7QR)
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#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Must have been a mole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IqV8l)
He "squirreled" his way in "secretly."
ISWYDT
#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Must have been a mole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IqV8l)
He "squirreled" his way in "secretly."
ISWYDT
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (27m1/)
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"Oh, and remember Saint Ted of Kennedy went to the USSR to conspire with them to defeat Reagan."
Those tall blonde Russian girls were great for waitress sandwiches. Hic.
Those tall blonde Russian girls were great for waitress sandwiches. Hic.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (OD2ni)
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This is a bit too far into the weeds. High level strategy still needs to be to kick Taco Bowl voter registration into high gear. Ole!
Posted by: Schnack at July 27, 2016 01:53 PM (qldDz)
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I loved and continue to love Reagan, but, to be fair, he went around the press and beat them with charm and wit. Trump is actively attacking them and it is SWEET.
I do hope that future conservative candidates are studying both Reagan and Trump and trying to learn how it works.
I do hope that future conservative candidates are studying both Reagan and Trump and trying to learn how it works.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (2lndx)
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Funny. Racism is not illegal. Murder is.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
The pathology of our post-modern age insists those be interchanged.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
The pathology of our post-modern age insists those be interchanged.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (VY8H5)
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"Can't wait to hear what President prissy pants has to say about this..."
I can't wait to read the emails that the SCOAMF and the Haggard Queen sent to each other. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he'll shut up and let this pass.
Fortunately for my entertainment, it's more likely that he's about as smart as I think he is.
I can't wait to read the emails that the SCOAMF and the Haggard Queen sent to each other. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he'll shut up and let this pass.
Fortunately for my entertainment, it's more likely that he's about as smart as I think he is.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (iIzG7)
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Brilliant, ace.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (AroJD)
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Oh, another Rooskie signature is a bit of the code, the malacious code implanted in the DNC network matched that used by a known Russian hack of the German parliament's system.
This is the DNC network. Now ask yourself a question: What signatures of who and what were found on Hillary's home brew server. You'd think the FBI would be investigating the hell out of that. Our spooks even more so.
This is the DNC network. Now ask yourself a question: What signatures of who and what were found on Hillary's home brew server. You'd think the FBI would be investigating the hell out of that. Our spooks even more so.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (DW+jj)
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The blunt truth is that either Hillary or Trump is a sh!t sandwich where Russia is concerned. We either elect a woman who can be bought/bribed/blackmailed by the Russians to do what they want, or we elect a man who naturally likes the authoritarian Putin and his corrupt regime to do what they like him to do.
Hillary would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe. Trump would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe, and maybe help the Russians to do so!
We're screwed with either one
Hillary would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe. Trump would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe, and maybe help the Russians to do so!
We're screwed with either one
Posted by: TKYC at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (XbSa9)
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Nice post Ace, but I'm just a lowly raccoon...
Nah it is a point well taken, I think the main reason the right fails is there is a portion of our side that has bought into the media narrative that "the good rightists need to control their nuts" whereas there is no impulse ever on the part of the left, nor pressure to regulate their nuts.
Plaintiff's exhibit one: David Brooks
Nah it is a point well taken, I think the main reason the right fails is there is a portion of our side that has bought into the media narrative that "the good rightists need to control their nuts" whereas there is no impulse ever on the part of the left, nor pressure to regulate their nuts.
Plaintiff's exhibit one: David Brooks
Posted by: sven10077 at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (SzZnW)
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I keep hearing 'Defeat With Honor' from our Elite Pundits.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (PjWy4)
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Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (tewYv)
Exactly. Trump has been this way his entire life. It's just Trump being Trump. It's working so far as I can tell. I just wish it was November 9th already.
Exactly. Trump has been this way his entire life. It's just Trump being Trump. It's working so far as I can tell. I just wish it was November 9th already.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (FOeaV)
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Why wouldn't Hillary do a fake coup like Erdogan?
Then she doesn't have to worry about blackmail.
Same with Obama. Why not say he is stopping Trump who is just like ...?
By releasing the info any of several countries could be protecting their source of food. Oil isn't nutritious. Farming is hard.
Then she doesn't have to worry about blackmail.
Same with Obama. Why not say he is stopping Trump who is just like ...?
By releasing the info any of several countries could be protecting their source of food. Oil isn't nutritious. Farming is hard.
Posted by: Ok at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (rnH8X)
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They are building it up, setting the scene for Putin to come in and kick the ladder out from under her.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (326rv)
Wouldn't you rather have her elected and then be in control of her? I don't think they'll release them.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 01:48 PM (326rv)
Wouldn't you rather have her elected and then be in control of her? I don't think they'll release them.
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (mEZce)
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well I am sure those Nigerian prince's have lot of Hillary's emails as also a lot of that missing state dept. money. maybe they could tell us a thing or to about what's in them.........
I just heard what Trump said and was LMAO at the meltdown by the vast left wing media. couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. they are the treasonous bunch for their lack of investigative skills and their blind submission to the altar of lib/commie gods.
I just heard what Trump said and was LMAO at the meltdown by the vast left wing media. couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. they are the treasonous bunch for their lack of investigative skills and their blind submission to the altar of lib/commie gods.
Posted by: the morigu at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (Bjy3Q)
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#Morocco - Important Islamic state cell dismantled, 52 terrorists were arrested.
Must have been a mole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IqV8l)
I'm confused. Why would 52 lone wolves be together like that?
Must have been a mole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IqV8l)
I'm confused. Why would 52 lone wolves be together like that?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (KUaJL)
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"Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility after the election".
I don't care what the left says I can or can't do. Fuck them in the ear.
I don't care what the left says I can or can't do. Fuck them in the ear.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2016 01:56 PM (/tuJf)
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>>As so often happens, the press is going after the shiny, contentless bauble and ignoring what actually matters.
Yeah, he interrupted their "Historic Hillary, First Woman Presidential Candidate Officially Nominated Last Night!!!" party.
What an idiot!
/sarc
Yeah, he interrupted their "Historic Hillary, First Woman Presidential Candidate Officially Nominated Last Night!!!" party.
What an idiot!
/sarc
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 01:56 PM (NOIQH)
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158 Posted by: TKYC at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (XbSa9)
Who's "we?"
EUtopia can take care of EUtopia assuming their Muslim overlords allow it.
Grammy H has already aided and abetted the Russians enabling a nuclear Theran...anything Trump may or may not do or feel is noise.
Who's "we?"
EUtopia can take care of EUtopia assuming their Muslim overlords allow it.
Grammy H has already aided and abetted the Russians enabling a nuclear Theran...anything Trump may or may not do or feel is noise.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 27, 2016 01:56 PM (SzZnW)
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Russia already stated their displeasure with Democrats trying to interfere in their elections. If they have to, they'll release more but they'll never release them all. US intelligence would do the same. The issue is a lack of security/competence not Russia taking advantage of it.
Posted by: ryukyu at July 27, 2016 01:56 PM (960oq)
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I'm thinking I'll have to pass on that movie.
Posted by: Sphynx at July 27, 2016 01:56 PM (OZmbA)
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well, like him or not, Trump is something of a loud mouth, obnoxious guy who has started screaming that the emperor has no clothes, and that is good for all of us.
he is a linguistic ice breaker.
he is a linguistic ice breaker.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:57 PM (AoSQU)
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The one thing they have yet to release is the oppo research on Trump.
In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
b) a major foreign power and one of our chief rivals/enemies is hacking us at will.
That is alarming to me, over and above the fun and games.
The one thing they have yet to release is the oppo research on Trump.
In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
b) a major foreign power and one of our chief rivals/enemies is hacking us at will.
That is alarming to me, over and above the fun and games.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:57 PM (27m1/)
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>>>or Rush Limbaugh for, allegedly, damaging the cause by saying "I hope he loses."
I know it's not central to your point, but Limbaugh was criticized for saying "I hope he fails." Stupidly criticized, because Obama's goal was to transform America, so Limbaugh and all those who valued (or wanted to conserve) what America was before Obama got his hands on it should have wanted Obama to fail; were in fact patriotic for hoping for Obama's failure.
I know it's not central to your point, but Limbaugh was criticized for saying "I hope he fails." Stupidly criticized, because Obama's goal was to transform America, so Limbaugh and all those who valued (or wanted to conserve) what America was before Obama got his hands on it should have wanted Obama to fail; were in fact patriotic for hoping for Obama's failure.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 01:57 PM (R+30W)
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"One of the few Muzzy states to have a treaty with Israel."
I did not know that. They are also the only Muslim-majority country to have a pavillion at Disney's Epcot -- their king paid for the construction and decoration, and the pavilion is staffed by college students from Morocco. So they're not just a relatively sane country, they send some of their best and brightest to live in the US for a while.
I did not know that. They are also the only Muslim-majority country to have a pavillion at Disney's Epcot -- their king paid for the construction and decoration, and the pavilion is staffed by college students from Morocco. So they're not just a relatively sane country, they send some of their best and brightest to live in the US for a while.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at July 27, 2016 01:58 PM (9RCRc)
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Wait, I am still reading emails. Hard to do. Horse jostles me and I lose place.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at July 27, 2016 01:58 PM (OZmbA)
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160 I keep hearing 'Defeat With Honor' from our Elite Pundits.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (PjWy4)
There is no honor in defeat. There's only defeat.
- - General J.J. Sefton
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 01:55 PM (PjWy4)
There is no honor in defeat. There's only defeat.
- - General J.J. Sefton
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:58 PM (27m1/)
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A quick question Ace: As regards placing rules on how one may speak, surely certain social roles should carry some limitations. Wouldn't we want a doctor in his professional capacity, for instance, to feel constrained by certain rules of speech that wouldn't apply to you or me in daily conversation?
Wouldn't this also be true of office holders and those who wish to hold office? Trump's comments about NATO, for instance, would be harmless if you said them, but coming from a man who may be president, I would argue they have already threatened to destabilize Europe.
I may be missing something very obvious or misunderstanding you on this issue.
Wouldn't this also be true of office holders and those who wish to hold office? Trump's comments about NATO, for instance, would be harmless if you said them, but coming from a man who may be president, I would argue they have already threatened to destabilize Europe.
I may be missing something very obvious or misunderstanding you on this issue.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 01:59 PM (mFkVC)
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"Maybe one. Come on down to Mexico."
* * *
Democrats, 2016: "IT WAS THE RUSSIANS WHO HACKED HILLARY! THEY'RE PURE DISTILLED ESSENCE OF EVIL AND NEVER TO BE TRUSTED!!!"
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
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What one might call a "dark" view of the world.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes on Fleegle.
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Democrats, 2016: "IT WAS THE RUSSIANS WHO HACKED HILLARY! THEY'RE PURE DISTILLED ESSENCE OF EVIL AND NEVER TO BE TRUSTED!!!"
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
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What one might call a "dark" view of the world.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes on Fleegle.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)
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Hillary would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe. Trump would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of Eastern Europe, and maybe help the Russians to do so!
We're screwed with either one
Posted by: TKYC at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (XbSa9)
so what are you going to do?
We're screwed with either one
Posted by: TKYC at July 27, 2016 01:54 PM (XbSa9)
so what are you going to do?
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 01:59 PM (AoSQU)
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Yeah, he interrupted their "Historic Hillary, First Woman Presidential Candidate Officially Nominated Last Night!!!" party.
Well, it's the "This is Mitt Romney's Day" argument. Nobody likes their political candidate to be interrupted by politics.
Well, it's the "This is Mitt Romney's Day" argument. Nobody likes their political candidate to be interrupted by politics.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 27, 2016 01:59 PM (2lndx)
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Ace, I thought you were done with Twitter except for posting links to articles on this site? Seems like you've gone back to discussing things on Twitter. Is the soft boycott over?
Posted by: Alarmism at July 27, 2016 02:00 PM (iX06C)
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"Wouldn't you rather have her elected and then be in control of her? "
I've heard that several powerful groups thought they could control crazy in the 1930's and 1940's.
I think one of John Grisham's books has that as a plot item. That DC politicians think everyone in the world is motivated solely by greed,
I've heard that several powerful groups thought they could control crazy in the 1930's and 1940's.
I think one of John Grisham's books has that as a plot item. That DC politicians think everyone in the world is motivated solely by greed,
Posted by: Ok at July 27, 2016 02:00 PM (rnH8X)
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Press's House. Press's Rules.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2016 02:00 PM (Y5KX4)
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The one thing they have yet to release is the oppo research on Trump.
What hasn't been released that hasn't already been released for the last 30 years?
What hasn't been released that hasn't already been released for the last 30 years?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:00 PM (Aivl/)
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I expect you bright and early at next Monday's health thread to explain yourself young lady.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (FOeaV)
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear that over the sound of me licking icing from my fingers.
ALSO ALSO the summer receptionist is a very sweet, very adorable, VERY YOUNG lady. So all y'all stop it with the impure thoughts. Don't make me go smitey.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 01:45 PM (FOeaV)
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear that over the sound of me licking icing from my fingers.
ALSO ALSO the summer receptionist is a very sweet, very adorable, VERY YOUNG lady. So all y'all stop it with the impure thoughts. Don't make me go smitey.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:00 PM (mf5HN)
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They do not have to release them. It is enough to make sure that the narrative in the press takes this far enough that their existence is fact. Now, people think the emails have no real info.. If they are worried that they are released, what does that say about the emails?
The assumption that they are worried about the release is the point. Sure, we would love them to be released but, the damage is still done. They cannot run away from them in the debates. And they are now STILL the number ONE issue in the campaign after the coronation of her criminalness.. LET THEM KEEP DIGGING.
The assumption that they are worried about the release is the point. Sure, we would love them to be released but, the damage is still done. They cannot run away from them in the debates. And they are now STILL the number ONE issue in the campaign after the coronation of her criminalness.. LET THEM KEEP DIGGING.
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 02:01 PM (EcmAX)
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We finally have a candidate (for good or bad YMMV) who can take it to the press and plays them like a game of tiddlywinks. If/should he be elected the final FU to the MSM would be having Milo as his press secretary. Popcorn futures soaring....
Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at July 27, 2016 02:01 PM (laQYo)
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The one thing they have yet to release is the oppo research on Trump.
In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
b) a major foreign power and one of our chief rivals/enemies is hacking us at will.
That is alarming to me, over and above the fun and games.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:57 PM (27m1/)
major foreign powers have not historically had much interest in Trump. opposition research on Trump is being done domestically by the weaponized bureaucracy.
In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
b) a major foreign power and one of our chief rivals/enemies is hacking us at will.
That is alarming to me, over and above the fun and games.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 01:57 PM (27m1/)
major foreign powers have not historically had much interest in Trump. opposition research on Trump is being done domestically by the weaponized bureaucracy.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:01 PM (AoSQU)
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As to whether Russia hacked her email, I see it this way:
1) If the Russians have any kind of respectable intelligence gathering operation they would definitely have a spy high enough in the State Department to be receiving email from Hillary.
2) They would NOTICE that it wasn't a normal email address.
3) They would be SUSPICIOUS that maybe the clever Americans are doing something really slick and new.
4) They would eventually sort out that no, it's just that Hillary is a sociopathic, and an arrogant self-centered asshole.
5) They would have been able to hack it, so - duh - OF COURSE they hacked her email. So THEY have a better record of her time in office than WE do. (Unless WE spied on her too!)
6) The whole point of the private server was to hide her crooked crap, so, yeah, that means they could blackmail the shit out her.
1) If the Russians have any kind of respectable intelligence gathering operation they would definitely have a spy high enough in the State Department to be receiving email from Hillary.
2) They would NOTICE that it wasn't a normal email address.
3) They would be SUSPICIOUS that maybe the clever Americans are doing something really slick and new.
4) They would eventually sort out that no, it's just that Hillary is a sociopathic, and an arrogant self-centered asshole.
5) They would have been able to hack it, so - duh - OF COURSE they hacked her email. So THEY have a better record of her time in office than WE do. (Unless WE spied on her too!)
6) The whole point of the private server was to hide her crooked crap, so, yeah, that means they could blackmail the shit out her.
Posted by: Optimizer at July 27, 2016 02:01 PM (jPHi7)
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On the question of who else has HRC's e-mails, the NSA certainly does.
NSA next year: We want to do Bond Villain Plan.
HRC: No, I don't think that's wise.
NSA: *waves print-outs of e-mails*
Not all enemies are foreign.
NSA next year: We want to do Bond Villain Plan.
HRC: No, I don't think that's wise.
NSA: *waves print-outs of e-mails*
Not all enemies are foreign.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (WoTr5)
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In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
Did he also have a bathroom server setup?
In any case, two things to remember: a) if they got the Democrat files they probably have Rancid Pubis' as well.
Did he also have a bathroom server setup?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (IqV8l)
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Goog G-D that was a long post? What was said?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (Ozsfq)
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Speaking of "open fields" and "fences," here is a GREAT joke on that exact topic:
A mathematician, an engineer and a philosopher are walking down a country road and come upon a farmer looking dejectedly at a herd of cows in a field.
"What's wrong?" they ask the farmer.
"Well," he says, "I need to build a fence to keep my cows from wandering away, but I'm dirt-poor and fencing is expensive, so I'm trying to figure out the cheapest way to build a fence that surrounds all the cows. The shorter the fence, the less it will cost me. Can you help me figure this out?"
"Yes!" they cry in unison.
The mathematician goes first. He draws a perfect circle just big enough to surround all the cows. "A circle is the shortest possible line to surround the largest area. You cannot be more efficient than that shape. Build your fence in a circle!"
The engineer scoffs and goes next. He ties a rope to a horn on the nearest cow, then loosely draws it around the exterior of the entire herd, and upon returning to the first cow, tightens the rope. "This technique encloses the entirety of the heard with the shortest possible line. Although a circle is in general the shortest line to enclose the largest area, in specific circumstances such as this one you can custom-design a route that encloses just the area you need with no wasted space. So my way is shorter!"
The philosopher goes last. He looks at the cows, but doesn't move. He thinks for a moment, then calmly inscribes in the dirt a short line around the farmer's feet, and intones, "Build a fence like this."
The farmer looks confused, and says, "This fence would be only a couple feet long! How is this going to keep all the cows in?"
The philosopher replies, "I define you as being on the outside."
A mathematician, an engineer and a philosopher are walking down a country road and come upon a farmer looking dejectedly at a herd of cows in a field.
"What's wrong?" they ask the farmer.
"Well," he says, "I need to build a fence to keep my cows from wandering away, but I'm dirt-poor and fencing is expensive, so I'm trying to figure out the cheapest way to build a fence that surrounds all the cows. The shorter the fence, the less it will cost me. Can you help me figure this out?"
"Yes!" they cry in unison.
The mathematician goes first. He draws a perfect circle just big enough to surround all the cows. "A circle is the shortest possible line to surround the largest area. You cannot be more efficient than that shape. Build your fence in a circle!"
The engineer scoffs and goes next. He ties a rope to a horn on the nearest cow, then loosely draws it around the exterior of the entire herd, and upon returning to the first cow, tightens the rope. "This technique encloses the entirety of the heard with the shortest possible line. Although a circle is in general the shortest line to enclose the largest area, in specific circumstances such as this one you can custom-design a route that encloses just the area you need with no wasted space. So my way is shorter!"
The philosopher goes last. He looks at the cows, but doesn't move. He thinks for a moment, then calmly inscribes in the dirt a short line around the farmer's feet, and intones, "Build a fence like this."
The farmer looks confused, and says, "This fence would be only a couple feet long! How is this going to keep all the cows in?"
The philosopher replies, "I define you as being on the outside."
Posted by: zombie at July 27, 2016 02:03 PM (jBuUi)
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Is there any chance in hell that, had the hack been targeted against the RNC or any Republican presidential candidate, that the MFM and all the other assorted leftist pundits and commentators would be howling for the release and speculating all sorts of things. The people need to know!1!11eleventy. Maybe Trump isn't as nuanced as he should be, for whatever that's worth, but let's not kid ourselves. The media would be absolutely convulsing wanting what's been hacked to be released.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 27, 2016 02:03 PM (+FSld)
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So all y'all stop it with the impure thoughts.
I don't think the Horde recognizes those words in that order.
I don't think the Horde recognizes those words in that order.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 27, 2016 02:03 PM (RD7QR)
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Trump said something to destabilize Europe? Destabilize Europe? Hah!
Europe has been destabilized, but it's own hand. Big Time. Jihadi immigration. Rapeapoolaza.
Then there's that whole financial meltdown thing. You think our banks are bad, well, well we're the least diseased whore in the whorehouse compared to them. Is Douchebank a zero yet? Well, recognized to be the zero it has been for some time?
Destabilized indeed.....
Europe has been destabilized, but it's own hand. Big Time. Jihadi immigration. Rapeapoolaza.
Then there's that whole financial meltdown thing. You think our banks are bad, well, well we're the least diseased whore in the whorehouse compared to them. Is Douchebank a zero yet? Well, recognized to be the zero it has been for some time?
Destabilized indeed.....
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:03 PM (DW+jj)
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keep hearing 'Defeat With Honor' from our Elite Pundits
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They're useful idiots , not Pundits
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They're useful idiots , not Pundits
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (WoTr5)
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The most important line in the news conference was that Hillary hasn't done one in 8 months. When has the MFM ever let any candidate, let only the leading candidate for one party ever just bail on them? You don't even have to have a tin foil hat to see this as a conspiracy
Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (15q3x)
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Trump said something to destabilize Europe? What pray tell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
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"Yeah, but don't forget that in at least one aspect Putin and Trump share
a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle"
They share another personality characteristic: they're both teetotallers.
I personally only rarely fly off the handle, because the handle in question is on the super economy size plastic jug of Val-U-Rite. It's a mood stabilizer *and* a paint stripper.
a personality characteristic - they're both prone to fly off the handle"
They share another personality characteristic: they're both teetotallers.
I personally only rarely fly off the handle, because the handle in question is on the super economy size plastic jug of Val-U-Rite. It's a mood stabilizer *and* a paint stripper.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (noWW6)
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Trump trolls terrifically, totally and tremendously
he has the MSM vagging out nearly every day now, allowing normal people to occasionally enjoy politics
he has the MSM vagging out nearly every day now, allowing normal people to occasionally enjoy politics
Posted by: Groucho, not Karl at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (/542q)
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In related news, Trump just received an advance for his next book The Art of the Troll.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (iQIUe)
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I would propose emphasizing a necessary implication of the Golden Rule.
The Golden Rule says "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." I would stress that this rule implies we should be wary of social
rule-making: The Rule implies "Do not impose rules on others that you
find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself."
Shaddup, furball. The Golden Rule is "Do unto others, good and hard. As long as they're enemies."
I would propose emphasizing a necessary implication of the Golden Rule.
The Golden Rule says "Do unto others as you would have others do unto
you." I would stress that this rule implies we should be wary of social
rule-making: The Rule implies "Do not impose rules on others that you
find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself."
Shaddup, furball. The Golden Rule is "Do unto others, good and hard. As long as they're enemies."
Posted by: Frau Gruppencankles at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (LuZz8)
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sadly, hillary is probably less concerned about hiding her emails from the russians and others than she is about hiding her emails from the American public.
Similar to how obama is willing to have secre deals with the iranians where he keeps the details secret from Americans. he has secret deals with our enemy.
Similar to how obama is willing to have secre deals with the iranians where he keeps the details secret from Americans. he has secret deals with our enemy.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (AoSQU)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (R+30W)
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From public accounts of Putin, this is a man who loves challenges. Wrestle bears? Sure. Hunt tigers? Absolutely! Have his ships and aircraft taunt their counterparts in the US? Got it. Bang a pretty little gymnast half his age? Natch. So what challenge is it to have an adversary like Obama or Clinton? They are not worthy and their incompetence becomes tedious. Reset?
I could see Putin and Trump matching wits.
I could see Putin and Trump matching wits.
Posted by: Cheri at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (oiNtH)
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yeah, it's Trump ( rather than ISIS ) which is destabilizing Europe
fantastically accurate analysis there....
fantastically accurate analysis there....
Posted by: Groucho, not Karl at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (/542q)
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>>>Ace, I thought you were done with Twitter except for posting links to articles on this site? Seems like you've gone back to discussing things on Twitter. Is the soft boycott over?
alas, for the moment, yes. I have felt the Siren Song of Influencing the Narrative.
Also, I just kind of hate most of my ahem peers, and I need them to know the low opinion I have of them.
alas, for the moment, yes. I have felt the Siren Song of Influencing the Narrative.
Also, I just kind of hate most of my ahem peers, and I need them to know the low opinion I have of them.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)
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What was so amazing to see were all the elite pundits who said, for six years or more, that Obama was merely incompetent.
In truth, Obama was getting everything he wanted and it was the elite pundits who failed to see what Obama was trying to accomplish.
So the question is not why would Russian publish those hacked emails, but how does Obama benefit from the disclosure.
With Obama and the democrats it is always misinformation and misdirection. Starting with a false premise, contorted logic, false data, rhetoric, sphistry a slanted narrative, and ending with a conclusion that isn't what it appears to be.
In truth, Obama was getting everything he wanted and it was the elite pundits who failed to see what Obama was trying to accomplish.
So the question is not why would Russian publish those hacked emails, but how does Obama benefit from the disclosure.
With Obama and the democrats it is always misinformation and misdirection. Starting with a false premise, contorted logic, false data, rhetoric, sphistry a slanted narrative, and ending with a conclusion that isn't what it appears to be.
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (h/n4g)
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On the question of who else has HRC's e-mails, the NSA certainly does.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (mgbwf)
It had to be said.
On the question of who else has HRC's e-mails, the NSA certainly does.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (mgbwf)
It had to be said.
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (Bdeb0)
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Nobody likes their political candidate to be interrupted by politics.
All she had to do was come clean back in the early days of the email server and none of this would be an issue. But she didn't and now it is.
Tough toenails, toots!
Nobody likes their political candidate to be interrupted by politics.
All she had to do was come clean back in the early days of the email server and none of this would be an issue. But she didn't and now it is.
Tough toenails, toots!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (BK3ZS)
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n the question of who else has HRC's e-mails, the NSA certainly does.
NSA next year: We want to do Bond Villain Plan.
HRC: No, I don't think that's wise.
NSA: *waves print-outs of e-mails*
Not all enemies are foreign.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Good point.
And if you have the info, you may want to pull it before someone else does.
NSA next year: We want to do Bond Villain Plan.
HRC: No, I don't think that's wise.
NSA: *waves print-outs of e-mails*
Not all enemies are foreign.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Good point.
And if you have the info, you may want to pull it before someone else does.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (326rv)
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Breaking - Russia releases on of Hillary's deleted e-mails
From: Clinton, Hillary
To: Abedin , Huma
I need you to run to liquor store and get me two bottles of Vodka. Not that Russian crap but that French brand . You know the one. And when you come over tonight wear that outfit I bought you.
From: Clinton, Hillary
To: Abedin , Huma
I need you to run to liquor store and get me two bottles of Vodka. Not that Russian crap but that French brand . You know the one. And when you come over tonight wear that outfit I bought you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (FOeaV)
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Ace is a great American!
Which is to say, great post, ace.
Which is to say, great post, ace.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Meremortal at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (3myMJ)
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200 Trump said something to destabilize Europe? What pray tell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
I think it was a reference to Trump's saying that he would hold our NATO "partners'" feet to the fire to pull their own weight in the "alliance."
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
I think it was a reference to Trump's saying that he would hold our NATO "partners'" feet to the fire to pull their own weight in the "alliance."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (SRKgf)
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200 Trump said something to destabilize Europe? What pray tell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
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I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
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I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
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Look, folks, maybe it was Russia. Maybe it was China. Who knows? It could have been some guy doing it from his bed. Maybe some guy with a 200 IQ who can't get out of bed in the morning. She could have been hacked by some blogger who puts ass-grade butter in his coffee and writes about shitting his pants.
Posted by: Donald J. Trump at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (5xDis)
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I personally only rarely fly off the handle, because the handle in question is on the super economy size plastic jug of Val-U-Rite. It's a mood stabilizer *and* a paint stripper.
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Also, a hand sanitizer.
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Also, a hand sanitizer.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (9mTYi)
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Also, I just kind of hate most of my ahem peers, and I need them to know the low opinion I have of them.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)
Ahhhh spite. The most delicious of all motivators.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)
Ahhhh spite. The most delicious of all motivators.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (mf5HN)
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>>b) a major foreign power and one of our chief rivals/enemies is hacking us at will.
Very upsetting. Whose fault is this, though?
First, Hillary. Any doubt that they used emails from her server to ID DNC email traffic, which led them to the DNC server?
Second, Obama. There are the "hacks" (inside jobs due to outsourcing to China) of the OMB servers, all the detail from security clearance reviews, fingerprints. Amazing.
No idea if Trump would be better, but likely not worse that Hillary and her team of Democrat bureaucratic cronies.
Very upsetting. Whose fault is this, though?
First, Hillary. Any doubt that they used emails from her server to ID DNC email traffic, which led them to the DNC server?
Second, Obama. There are the "hacks" (inside jobs due to outsourcing to China) of the OMB servers, all the detail from security clearance reviews, fingerprints. Amazing.
No idea if Trump would be better, but likely not worse that Hillary and her team of Democrat bureaucratic cronies.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (NOIQH)
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More Guccifer emails released today according to The Hill...
Posted by: Hacktastic at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (Jh20h)
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216 Breaking - Russia releases on of Hillary's deleted e-mails
From: Clinton, Hillary
To: Abedin , Huma
I need you to run to liquor store and get me two bottles of Vodka. Not that Russian crap but that French brand . You know the one. And when you come over tonight wear that outfit I bought you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (FOeaV)
"Oh, and pick up an aerosol can of whipped cream, too. And some batteries."
From: Clinton, Hillary
To: Abedin , Huma
I need you to run to liquor store and get me two bottles of Vodka. Not that Russian crap but that French brand . You know the one. And when you come over tonight wear that outfit I bought you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:06 PM (FOeaV)
"Oh, and pick up an aerosol can of whipped cream, too. And some batteries."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (SRKgf)
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Don't the American people DESERVE to know AT LEAST as much as the Russians?
Seriously
How is this outrageous. It's outrageous people would be offended
Don't the American people DESERVE to know AT LEAST as much as the Russians?
Seriously
How is this outrageous. It's outrageous people would be offended
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (dyX6r)
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"... but coming from a man who may be president, I would argue they have already threatened to destabilize Europe."
The Elephant has been in the room forever.. Trump is just saying what needs to be said.. Europe better start acting like a super state if is going to be one and have a real military spending plan that doesn't depend on a good chunk of the USA's GDP. Or shut up, and quit going against us at every opportunity when we ask you to do things that are politically uncomfortable. You either ARE NATO or you are not. Pick one. Turkey has been lost for several years..this is not a surprise for those watching..
The Elephant has been in the room forever.. Trump is just saying what needs to be said.. Europe better start acting like a super state if is going to be one and have a real military spending plan that doesn't depend on a good chunk of the USA's GDP. Or shut up, and quit going against us at every opportunity when we ask you to do things that are politically uncomfortable. You either ARE NATO or you are not. Pick one. Turkey has been lost for several years..this is not a surprise for those watching..
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (RI/nF)
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I can't believe anyone is making any kind of deal, big or small, out of a jocular off handed statement Trump made about the russians giving back the Emails? Did they actually listen to the presser? Wallace is an ass
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (Ozsfq)
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What's the over/under on when Obama's corrupt, sleazy, shiftless IRS leaks Trump's tax returns?
Posted by: El Kabong at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (datdl)
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Wish I had been able to get into this string earlier.
The Russians will do what is logical for Russians, and not necessarily in the way we want to rationalize it.
They certainly have hacked the emails. For that matter there isn't a single elected official from the State level on up that isn't under cyber attack daily. They know where the national level players are groomed.
The Russians may very well know what kind of person Clinton is and wish not to have her in possession of the codes for the nukes. It could be just that simple.
Or...it may not be the Russians at all.
The Russians will do what is logical for Russians, and not necessarily in the way we want to rationalize it.
They certainly have hacked the emails. For that matter there isn't a single elected official from the State level on up that isn't under cyber attack daily. They know where the national level players are groomed.
The Russians may very well know what kind of person Clinton is and wish not to have her in possession of the codes for the nukes. It could be just that simple.
Or...it may not be the Russians at all.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 27, 2016 02:09 PM (r65B3)
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Re "clever Americans". I don't know. I think that's becoming a joke. I think the last really competent people we had were during Bush I. Everything else has been dumb kids, and getting dumber each administration.
I remember reading something back during the Crash of '08. It was the Chicom head honchos. They said something about they always figured those damned Americans knew what they were doing in running this dog and pony show known as the world financial system, but after the Crash, they concluded we didn't. That we were a bunch of idiots.
And so they changed their plans accordingly.
I remember reading something back during the Crash of '08. It was the Chicom head honchos. They said something about they always figured those damned Americans knew what they were doing in running this dog and pony show known as the world financial system, but after the Crash, they concluded we didn't. That we were a bunch of idiots.
And so they changed their plans accordingly.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:09 PM (DW+jj)
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NSA: *waves print-outs of e-mails*
Hillary: "so? What do you think you can release that will make the slightest difference? I won the presidency despite being transparently corrupt, wicked, evil, hateful, and lawbreaking. Everybody knew and didn't give a damn, they voted for me anyway.
"nothing you can release will make any difference now."
Hillary: "so? What do you think you can release that will make the slightest difference? I won the presidency despite being transparently corrupt, wicked, evil, hateful, and lawbreaking. Everybody knew and didn't give a damn, they voted for me anyway.
"nothing you can release will make any difference now."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 02:09 PM (39g3+)
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Trump says allies may have to do more of the heavy lifting if they want our protecrion.
The horror, the horror.
The horror, the horror.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 27, 2016 02:09 PM (LYCUN)
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I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
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Posted by: Unperson at July 27, 2016 02:09 PM (9mTYi)
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Local news story. A couple of centuries ago, a frontiersman hid his rifle (for some reason I no longer remember) at a particular location. When a town later grew at that location, they named it Rifle CO in remembrance of the hidden rifle. Now Faceblech, pursuant to its anti-gun policy, is refusing posts mentioning [redacted] CO.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (Nwg0u)
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Rush says Clinton Campaign has issued statement ccusing Trump of national security violation over emails joke.
Don't choke on that irony, folks.
Don't choke on that irony, folks.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (PjWy4)
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I think it was a reference to Trump's saying that he would hold our NATO "partners'" feet to the fire to pull their own weight in the "alliance."
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NATO has plenty of issues, but since the beginning, the US was always going to pull the most weight. We shouldn't want it any other way.
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NATO has plenty of issues, but since the beginning, the US was always going to pull the most weight. We shouldn't want it any other way.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (gmeXX)
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Wait, I am still reading emails. Hard to do. Horse jostles me and I lose place.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at July 27, 2016 01:58 PM (OZmbA)
Real Tsar Putin rides bear!
Posted by: Vlad Putin at July 27, 2016 01:58 PM (OZmbA)
Real Tsar Putin rides bear!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (hLRSq)
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They are trying to say that Trump is now guilty of treason, while letting Granny Saggy Depends off the hook for actually, you know, making them available for hacking.
Not. Enough. Popcorn.
Not. Enough. Popcorn.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (XlMnV)
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The Baltics suck. Worst property on the Monopoly board.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (X/qvg)
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What is the fuckin problem here?
Of course the russians and the Chicoms hack us. ALL THE TIME, AND ALL OVER THE PLACE! That this surprises anyone is fuckin absurd
Of course the russians and the Chicoms hack us. ALL THE TIME, AND ALL OVER THE PLACE! That this surprises anyone is fuckin absurd
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (dyX6r)
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hey are trying to say that Trump is now guilty of treason, while letting Granny Saggy Depends off the hook for actually, you know, making them available for hacking.
Not. Enough. Popcorn.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (XlMnV)
Trump should tell them to go fuck themselves and to get a life
Not. Enough. Popcorn.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (XlMnV)
Trump should tell them to go fuck themselves and to get a life
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:11 PM (Ozsfq)
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The Elephant has been in the room forever.. Trump is just saying what needs to be said.. Europe better start acting like a super state if is going to be one and have a real military spending plan that doesn't depend on a good chunk of the USA's GDP. Or shut up, and quit going against us at every opportunity when we ask you to do things that are politically uncomfortable. You either ARE NATO or you are not. Pick one. Turkey has been lost for several years..this is not a surprise for those watching..
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (RI/nF)
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Then you say all this, really forcefully, in a back room. And you threaten to kick nations out of NATO or to take America out of the alliance. In a back room. You don't publicly green light attacks on allies.
As for Turkey and NATO - yeah, that's a debacle for which I see no solution.
Although Trump praised Erdogan and his response to the coup. Which is nice.
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (RI/nF)
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Then you say all this, really forcefully, in a back room. And you threaten to kick nations out of NATO or to take America out of the alliance. In a back room. You don't publicly green light attacks on allies.
As for Turkey and NATO - yeah, that's a debacle for which I see no solution.
Although Trump praised Erdogan and his response to the coup. Which is nice.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:11 PM (mFkVC)
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I remember Reagan made a joke about bombing the Soviet Union from the podium.
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I thought it was 'before' a radio broadcast when the mike was not expected to be live.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (NUqwG)
Yes, it was a private joke that went live on a "hot" mic. I was in the Army at the time and we thought it was pretty funny. Reagan pretty much shrugged his shoulders and said "oops."
The Leftist media and bed-wetters were besides themselves.
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I thought it was 'before' a radio broadcast when the mike was not expected to be live.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 27, 2016 01:37 PM (NUqwG)
Yes, it was a private joke that went live on a "hot" mic. I was in the Army at the time and we thought it was pretty funny. Reagan pretty much shrugged his shoulders and said "oops."
The Leftist media and bed-wetters were besides themselves.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 27, 2016 02:11 PM (YQ4mh)
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"Hillary would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy choice parts of
Eastern Europe. Trump would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy
choice parts of Eastern Europe, and maybe help the Russians to do so!"
Ah. On this "allow" business. Implying per corollary that "deny" is an option.
There are certain unpleasant truths in this, the year of Our Lord 2016, which we all need to wrap our heads around.
Among those unpleasant truths: that the United States no longer possesses conventional military forces adequate to repel an armed Russian incursion into Europe proper. Neither do our NATO "partners", who are mostly ineffectual mooches and deadbeats.
The only way to keep the Russians out is nuclear brinksmanship, and, mirabile dictu, we can't do *that* any longer with any plausibility, thanks to our mandarinate's idiocies like "New START" and inadequate funding and development for ballistic missile defense.
So let's get off this "allow/deny" kick when talking what what we imagine we have the capability to do with regard to Russia in their geographic back yard. Those capabilities aren't there. Get real.
Eastern Europe. Trump would allow Russia to attack NATO and occupy
choice parts of Eastern Europe, and maybe help the Russians to do so!"
Ah. On this "allow" business. Implying per corollary that "deny" is an option.
There are certain unpleasant truths in this, the year of Our Lord 2016, which we all need to wrap our heads around.
Among those unpleasant truths: that the United States no longer possesses conventional military forces adequate to repel an armed Russian incursion into Europe proper. Neither do our NATO "partners", who are mostly ineffectual mooches and deadbeats.
The only way to keep the Russians out is nuclear brinksmanship, and, mirabile dictu, we can't do *that* any longer with any plausibility, thanks to our mandarinate's idiocies like "New START" and inadequate funding and development for ballistic missile defense.
So let's get off this "allow/deny" kick when talking what what we imagine we have the capability to do with regard to Russia in their geographic back yard. Those capabilities aren't there. Get real.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (dyX6r)
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I can't get over the press outrage that a foreign power might release incriminating emails from one of the candidates for president. They have now proven beyond all doubt that they have no credibility as information sources.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (7ZVPa)
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244 hey are trying to say that Trump is now guilty of treason, while letting Granny Saggy Depends off the hook for actually, you know, making them available for hacking.
The FBI will have to investigate this!
The FBI will have to investigate this!
Posted by: donna at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (O2RFr)
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>>"Oh, and pick up an aerosol can of whipped cream, too. And some batteries."
.. three rubber gloves.
Also, a jar of Nutella, a toilet bowl brush and a clothes-pin.
.. three rubber gloves.
Also, a jar of Nutella, a toilet bowl brush and a clothes-pin.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (CH3GY)
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You did of course listen to Trump's entire press conference? That gave me much more context on his remarks.
I believe Trump was joking while simultaneously expressing outrage about the entire affair. You have a pretty substantial issues that's being ignored by the press who is buying this ridiculous assertion there is some type of Trump-Putin conspiracy. You have lunatics like from the Clinton Camp pushing this nonsense and people actually giving it consideration or participating in the subterfuge of the DNC email content.
You term Trump's statement "outrageous". Frankly I find the entire treatment of both the DNC's email content and attempt to make The Hags missing emails some type of comedic adventure "outrageous".
I think that's the frustrating point Trump was trying to make in a joke.
I believe Trump was joking while simultaneously expressing outrage about the entire affair. You have a pretty substantial issues that's being ignored by the press who is buying this ridiculous assertion there is some type of Trump-Putin conspiracy. You have lunatics like from the Clinton Camp pushing this nonsense and people actually giving it consideration or participating in the subterfuge of the DNC email content.
You term Trump's statement "outrageous". Frankly I find the entire treatment of both the DNC's email content and attempt to make The Hags missing emails some type of comedic adventure "outrageous".
I think that's the frustrating point Trump was trying to make in a joke.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (KdXXc)
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Damn. Great screed, Ace.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (GSdpU)
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NATO has plenty of issues, but since the beginning, the US was always going to pull the most weight.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (gmeXX)
Yes, of course, because we're the largest and strongest country. But the other NATO countries can do a lot more than just holding our coat. In particular, they need to up their defense spending to the same proportion of GDP that ours is.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (gmeXX)
Yes, of course, because we're the largest and strongest country. But the other NATO countries can do a lot more than just holding our coat. In particular, they need to up their defense spending to the same proportion of GDP that ours is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (SRKgf)
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>>>>Granny Saggy Depends
Aaaaghh!!! Aaaaaaghh!!! SAFE SPACE!!! SAFE THOUGHTS!!!
WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA!!!!!
Aaaaghh!!! Aaaaaaghh!!! SAFE SPACE!!! SAFE THOUGHTS!!!
WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA WINONA!!!!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (X/qvg)
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Real Tsar Putin rides bear!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung!
In Soviet America, bear rides you.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung!
In Soviet America, bear rides you.
Posted by: Leonardo DiCaprio at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (UPYhp)
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I tried to read this all the way through but decided to jerk off instead.
Posted by: Stay Golden Pony Boy at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (2mOyQ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM (hyuyC)
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"Wouldn't you rather have her elected and then be in control of her? I don't think they'll release them."
I tend to agree with the above.
I tend to agree with the above.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM (Ft3+l)
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So the "media" is making a big deal of this supposedly off the cuff statement? Good.
Because it wasn't off the cuff. And it wasn't stupid. The American people (or at least enough of them) are smart enough to see that Trump is tweaking Hillary on this and not committing a treasonous act. And Trump gives the public enough credit to recognize that...which is something that all the talking heads on either side of the aisle never do.
Further, he believes that people...real, run of the mill American people, won't focus on his laugh line. They will refocus on the absolute disgrace that is Hillary's deleting of her emails.
Further still, he believes that people...real, run of the mill American people, will see through the punditocracies denunciation of his statement and view them with even further disgust, thus reinforcing his position as a man outside the game.
Fucking genius. He is playing the game in real life while all the old dinosaurs are still sucking Walter Cronkite's dead dick.
Because it wasn't off the cuff. And it wasn't stupid. The American people (or at least enough of them) are smart enough to see that Trump is tweaking Hillary on this and not committing a treasonous act. And Trump gives the public enough credit to recognize that...which is something that all the talking heads on either side of the aisle never do.
Further, he believes that people...real, run of the mill American people, won't focus on his laugh line. They will refocus on the absolute disgrace that is Hillary's deleting of her emails.
Further still, he believes that people...real, run of the mill American people, will see through the punditocracies denunciation of his statement and view them with even further disgust, thus reinforcing his position as a man outside the game.
Fucking genius. He is playing the game in real life while all the old dinosaurs are still sucking Walter Cronkite's dead dick.
Posted by: ajmojo at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Billopoly at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM (Jh20h)
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Fed leaves the Rates Unchanged
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM (Ozsfq)
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person
Come on. The only argument is will she be better. The answer is no. Clearly no. The rest is mental masturbation
person
Come on. The only argument is will she be better. The answer is no. Clearly no. The rest is mental masturbation
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (dyX6r)
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well, the funny thing about the mfm jumping all over Trump's comment / taking the bait is that he is gong to get asked a question about it tomorrow or sometime down the road and then he is going to have to explain his comment in greater detail, which keeps the story going.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (AoSQU)
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>>"Oh, and pick up an aerosol can of whipped cream, too. And some batteries."
.. three rubber gloves.
Also, a jar of Nutella, a toilet bowl brush and a clothes-pin.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (CH3GY)
Damn, that reminds me that I need to make a Target (I know I know) run.
.. three rubber gloves.
Also, a jar of Nutella, a toilet bowl brush and a clothes-pin.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (CH3GY)
Damn, that reminds me that I need to make a Target (I know I know) run.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (mf5HN)
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To get to the question of the Russians, I would suggest a few things:
1) No, it's not the Russians doing the DNC bit. (But no, I don't have any proof whatsoever.)
2) But yes, they DID the hack. (See my earlier comment.)
3) I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
4) SO ... what this is all about is that the Russians are bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
1) No, it's not the Russians doing the DNC bit. (But no, I don't have any proof whatsoever.)
2) But yes, they DID the hack. (See my earlier comment.)
3) I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
4) SO ... what this is all about is that the Russians are bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
Posted by: Optimizer at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (jPHi7)
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Remember the left salivating about getting all of Sarah Palins emails ?
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (M+Lyo)
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Trump is just saying what needs to be said.. Europe better start acting like a super state if is going to be one and have a real military spending plan that doesn't depend on a good chunk of the USA's GDP.
I agree, I'm sick of nations taking money from us to prop up their corrupt and idiotic economic systems constantly badmouthing us. I'm sick of Europe acting like its some superpower when it only exists as is because of American money and might. I'm sick of NATO being called upon when they need it and hated when they don't, with members acting like showing up at the meetings is all that's required, and taking our money.
NATO should have been shut down in 1992. We should close a good half or more of our world bases that only serve to prop up governments. If Europe wants to have another war, let them. They're not our concern.
I agree, I'm sick of nations taking money from us to prop up their corrupt and idiotic economic systems constantly badmouthing us. I'm sick of Europe acting like its some superpower when it only exists as is because of American money and might. I'm sick of NATO being called upon when they need it and hated when they don't, with members acting like showing up at the meetings is all that's required, and taking our money.
NATO should have been shut down in 1992. We should close a good half or more of our world bases that only serve to prop up governments. If Europe wants to have another war, let them. They're not our concern.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (39g3+)
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But the other NATO countries can do a lot more than just holding our coat. In particular, they need to up their defense spending to the same proportion of GDP that ours is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (SRKgf)
I would settle for them holding our coat but shutting the fuck up and just supporting us verbally 100% and getting the fuck out of the way
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (SRKgf)
I would settle for them holding our coat but shutting the fuck up and just supporting us verbally 100% and getting the fuck out of the way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (Ozsfq)
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230 What's the over/under on when Obama's corrupt, sleazy, shiftless IRS leaks Trump's tax returns?
Posted by: El Kabong at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (datdl)
And that is kind of the problem with screwing the other guy first before he screws you. It essentially makes everything fair game. The same people crowing right now about the DNC emails will be blasting the IRS if they did leak his returns and there was something harmful in them.
The thing here in both eventualities is that, if you did wrong and do not want people to know about it, you should not have done it in the first place.
Posted by: El Kabong at July 27, 2016 02:08 PM (datdl)
And that is kind of the problem with screwing the other guy first before he screws you. It essentially makes everything fair game. The same people crowing right now about the DNC emails will be blasting the IRS if they did leak his returns and there was something harmful in them.
The thing here in both eventualities is that, if you did wrong and do not want people to know about it, you should not have done it in the first place.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (3ZoRf)
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Yes, of course, because we're the largest and strongest country. But the other NATO countries can do a lot more than just holding our coat. In particular, they need to up their defense spending to the same proportion of GDP that ours is.
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I agree they could do more. Not sure we should hold them up to the GDP standard. That may be what is in the treaty, but not sure it is in our best interest. Seemingly gives them a reason to say we are all equals - when we clearly aren't.
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I agree they could do more. Not sure we should hold them up to the GDP standard. That may be what is in the treaty, but not sure it is in our best interest. Seemingly gives them a reason to say we are all equals - when we clearly aren't.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (gmeXX)
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Bringing up Granny Saggypants' treasonous activities is treasonous.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (PjWy4)
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We shouldn't want it any other way.
I want it the other way. Feel free to chip in for my part of America's part of defending NATO.
For the children.
I want it the other way. Feel free to chip in for my part of America's part of defending NATO.
For the children.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (Y5KX4)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (dyX6r)
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241 The Baltics suck. Worst property on the Monopoly board.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (X/qvg)
Nah, you scoop them up, put hotels on them, and snag everybody's Go money. Like taking candy from a baby. Plus it finances houses for other properties that have the potential to break an opponent.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (X/qvg)
Nah, you scoop them up, put hotels on them, and snag everybody's Go money. Like taking candy from a baby. Plus it finances houses for other properties that have the potential to break an opponent.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (RD7QR)
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220 200 Trump said something to destabilize Europe? What pray tell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
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I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
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He said the USA would meet its obligations to countries that also met theirs.
NATO is a treaty, with all signatories having obligations. I think it is entirely reasonable to put out the message that if other members want America to do its part, they need to do theirs as well.
It is also a good idea to raise the possibility of renegotiating certain aspects of the treaty. The treaty has been modified in the past as circumstances warranted. No reason why that should not be the case in the future.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
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I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
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He said the USA would meet its obligations to countries that also met theirs.
NATO is a treaty, with all signatories having obligations. I think it is entirely reasonable to put out the message that if other members want America to do its part, they need to do theirs as well.
It is also a good idea to raise the possibility of renegotiating certain aspects of the treaty. The treaty has been modified in the past as circumstances warranted. No reason why that should not be the case in the future.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (R+30W)
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His making this comment BEFORE HER BIG ACCEPTANCE SPEECH FORCES TO MEDIA TO COVER IT. TONIGHT
Her Screech is tomorrow isn't it?
Her Screech is tomorrow isn't it?
Posted by: donna at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (O2RFr)
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What's the over/under on when Obama's corrupt, sleazy, shiftless IRS leaks Trump's tax returns?
October 31st.
October 31st.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 02:15 PM (PjWy4)
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Considering the DNC e-mails and whodunit, the question naturally is:
Who benefits?
Does Russia benefit from hurting Hillary's chances by revealing the ugly truth of the American Democratic-Socialist Party? Possibly . . . it is entirely possible that Putin thinks that he can make deals with the Dealmaker in a way that he wouldn't be able to do with Hillary, whom nobody with two brain cells to rub together would trust to turn a shoulder to, let alone turn their back to.
But another possibility is that those who are releasing the DNC e-mails are America's own intelligence establishment. We know they're well and truly pissed with Hillary and with Obama for a myriad of very, very, very good reasons. I submit that there are those within the NSA-CIA-FBI-ETC who have both means and motive for sending multiple data torpedoes towards SS Hillary with hopes of holing her under the waterline.
(Apologies for that really, really unfortunate mental image, just there.)
Who benefits?
Does Russia benefit from hurting Hillary's chances by revealing the ugly truth of the American Democratic-Socialist Party? Possibly . . . it is entirely possible that Putin thinks that he can make deals with the Dealmaker in a way that he wouldn't be able to do with Hillary, whom nobody with two brain cells to rub together would trust to turn a shoulder to, let alone turn their back to.
But another possibility is that those who are releasing the DNC e-mails are America's own intelligence establishment. We know they're well and truly pissed with Hillary and with Obama for a myriad of very, very, very good reasons. I submit that there are those within the NSA-CIA-FBI-ETC who have both means and motive for sending multiple data torpedoes towards SS Hillary with hopes of holing her under the waterline.
(Apologies for that really, really unfortunate mental image, just there.)
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (s5o+q)
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If Europe wants to have another war, let them. They're not our concern.
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World history may disagree with you on that.
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World history may disagree with you on that.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
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High level strategy still needs to be to kick Taco Bowl voter registration into high gear. Ole!
I see you've been reading from the DNC playbook. Well done!
I see you've been reading from the DNC playbook. Well done!
Posted by: GMan at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (sxq57)
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I would settle for them holding our coat but shutting the fuck up and just supporting us verbally 100% and getting the fuck out of the way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (Ozsfq)
No, they need to defend themselves in the long run. I am in the more 'Tough love' camp on this one.
A society that finds no reason to defend itself loses something fundamental, and WILL be conquered.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (Ozsfq)
No, they need to defend themselves in the long run. I am in the more 'Tough love' camp on this one.
A society that finds no reason to defend itself loses something fundamental, and WILL be conquered.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (s5o+q)
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I heard a rumor that the NYT is going to assign (almost) 1 staffer to review the Clinton emails.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (7ZVPa)
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If Russia has the 30, 000 emails, that is American property and should be returned. Nothing outrageous about the return of stolen goods.
Posted by: free range pretty much conservative at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (ZnIt3)
You cannot un-steal e-mails, any more than you can un-hear a radio broadcast. There was no physical theft involved, just unauthorized viewing of private data.
Posted by: free range pretty much conservative at July 27, 2016 01:35 PM (ZnIt3)
You cannot un-steal e-mails, any more than you can un-hear a radio broadcast. There was no physical theft involved, just unauthorized viewing of private data.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (GSdpU)
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FILLLLLBERT
Posted by: GMan at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (sxq57)
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The funniest thing about the possible email release-
What if one or more of the emails was to/from Barky@1600.gov.
What if one or more of the emails was to/from Barky@1600.gov.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (X+nFp)
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hat we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
Yeah he specifically said he supports Nato and is not leaving it today
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
Yeah he specifically said he supports Nato and is not leaving it today
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (dciA+)
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Of course, QuEen Janet leaves the rates unchanged. The Fed has painted itself in a corner. If it raises rates, it pulls the plug on this illusion know as the "Recovery!". Well, the recovery such as it appears on various paper measures of Greatest Dow Ever and such nonsense.
Of course, they've ass-raped the pension funds with ZIRP. But if they raise, they ass-rape themselves and everybody else.
Of course, they've ass-raped the pension funds with ZIRP. But if they raise, they ass-rape themselves and everybody else.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (nhHaf)
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{/I}
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (s5o+q)
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If those email included pics of Hillary in her yoga pants wouldn't the Russians be using them to blackmail the public--I mean the voting public--I mean everybody with eyes?
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (hJrjt)
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The Barrel always provides for it's own defense.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (3ZoRf)
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What if one or more of the emails was to/from Barky@1600.gov.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (X+nFp)
Of course there were...What do you think this whole kabuki dance is about?
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (X+nFp)
Of course there were...What do you think this whole kabuki dance is about?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (Ozsfq)
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The only reason that anyone on the left even uses the WORD "treason" is because they know they're not very concerned with America qua America, and they're looking for any opportunity to disguise that.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (F2rZx)
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FILLLLLBERT
Posted by: GMan at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (sxq57)
Gonna have to change my nic to "He Who Cannot Command Italic Tags" I guess.
Posted by: GMan at July 27, 2016 02:16 PM (sxq57)
Gonna have to change my nic to "He Who Cannot Command Italic Tags" I guess.
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2016 02:17 PM (s5o+q)
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>>Also, a jar of Nutella, a toilet bowl brush and a clothes-pin.Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:12 PM (CH3GY)
And a Tickle Me Elmo doll. You know the one, the furry pink one that vibrates when he giggles.
And a Tickle Me Elmo doll. You know the one, the furry pink one that vibrates when he giggles.
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)
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No one had a problem when Obama advertised that Romney killed people by taking away their healthcare.
Posted by: alanstern at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (5ajDZ)
Posted by: weft cut-hammer at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (VY8H5)
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Come on. The only argument is will she be better. The answer is no. Clearly no. The rest is mental masturbation
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (dyX6r)
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There is another question, because I don't think this country would end before 2020, even with Clinton in office. We're not that weak.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (dyX6r)
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There is another question, because I don't think this country would end before 2020, even with Clinton in office. We're not that weak.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
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And that is kind of the problem with screwing the other guy first before he screws you. It essentially makes everything fair game. The same people crowing right now about the DNC emails will be blasting the IRS if they did leak his returns and there was something harmful in them.
The thing here in both eventualities is that, if you did wrong and do not want people to know about it, you should not have done it in the first place.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (3ZoRf)
well yeah but they are going to screw him regardless. better to have Trump do some screwing instead of just standing there and getting screwed like romney.
The thing here in both eventualities is that, if you did wrong and do not want people to know about it, you should not have done it in the first place.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (3ZoRf)
well yeah but they are going to screw him regardless. better to have Trump do some screwing instead of just standing there and getting screwed like romney.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (AoSQU)
Posted by: The Barrel at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mgbwf)
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Trump at close of press conference: "I think it's time for Hillary Clinton to do a press conference."
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (nhHaf)
Posted by: Groucho, not Karl at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (/542q)
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If, as we believe, HRC's home-brew server was hacked by the Russians, Chinese, et al,
And, as we suspect, in the treasure trove of emails they collected there are a great many damaging to her and threatening to national security,
It follows that they would hold them on the assumption they are more valuable as post election extortion bait should HRC be elected.
So, Trump is truly a PATRIOT by wishing and hoping they be released so as to protect the country from having its POTUS extorted!
And, as we suspect, in the treasure trove of emails they collected there are a great many damaging to her and threatening to national security,
It follows that they would hold them on the assumption they are more valuable as post election extortion bait should HRC be elected.
So, Trump is truly a PATRIOT by wishing and hoping they be released so as to protect the country from having its POTUS extorted!
Posted by: steve walsh at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (xDQNc)
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Rrpuicans have been playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules for some time now while the Demceats have ties their shoelaces together and shit in their oatmeal. Meanwhile the country is burning down and corruption is becoming so ingrained that people feel they are losing control of their government.
I don't think anyone trusts the Russians. But they frankly feel it's funny these things are working against the Democrats.
I don't think anyone trusts the Russians. But they frankly feel it's funny these things are working against the Democrats.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 27, 2016 02:19 PM (KdXXc)
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>>"I think it's time for Hillary Clinton to do a press conference." Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (nhHaf)
Trump doesn't take orders, he gives them!
Trump doesn't take orders, he gives them!
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 02:19 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:19 PM (dyX6r)
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That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
well, not for a troll like you, so........................tell us your concerns!!!
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
well, not for a troll like you, so........................tell us your concerns!!!
Posted by: Groucho, not Karl at July 27, 2016 02:19 PM (/542q)
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well yeah but they are going to screw him regardless. better to have Trump do some screwing instead of just standing there and getting screwed like romney.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (AoSQU)
Oh, I am not arguing that. You cannot have a dialogue in good faith with someone determined to act in bad faith. However, you have to be willing to suffer the consequences.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (AoSQU)
Oh, I am not arguing that. You cannot have a dialogue in good faith with someone determined to act in bad faith. However, you have to be willing to suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (3ZoRf)
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We have been saying this in the back room forever and it has not worked. This time Trump is saying it up front because the EU is in danger of being no more, and the opportunity to have a NATO when the EU collapses is in the balance. The People of the Countries involved need to start making up their minds whether or not they like Vodka better than Whiskey. Because the fectless EU will gladly drink whatever they can get while bent over by "the bear".
Posted by: catman at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (EcmAX)
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Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
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This is threadworthy: Former facebook workers confirm that Facebook suppressed trending Conservative news stories:
http://tinyurl.com/jv4ocx3
http://tinyurl.com/jv4ocx3
Posted by: looking closely at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (8Ijen)
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There is another question, because I don't think this country would end before 2020, even with Clinton in office. We're not that weak.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
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The same people crowing right now about the DNC emails will be blasting the IRS if they did leak his returns and there was something harmful in them.
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There is a slight difference between hacking emails of a political party (and illegally unsecure emails from SOS), and a government agency illegally releasing data on a citizen. Surely you see that.
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There is a slight difference between hacking emails of a political party (and illegally unsecure emails from SOS), and a government agency illegally releasing data on a citizen. Surely you see that.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X/qvg)
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Oh filbert!
Come on in. We've spruced the place up with the stuff from under ace's ballsack.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mgbwf)
EW!
Oh, Ace? I found that weight you lost.
EWWWWW!!!!
Come on in. We've spruced the place up with the stuff from under ace's ballsack.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mgbwf)
EW!
Oh, Ace? I found that weight you lost.
EWWWWW!!!!
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (s5o+q)
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Wait, I am still reading emails. Hard to do. Horse jostles me and I lose place.
Posted by: Vlad Putin
Great Stalin's ghost! These love emails from Huma Danger are enough to gag a maggot off a gut wagon!
Posted by: Vlad Putin
Great Stalin's ghost! These love emails from Huma Danger are enough to gag a maggot off a gut wagon!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (Nwg0u)
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I'm sure they got a bunch of crap about Hillary's lezzing. I remember reading something about Hillary's supposed lovers during her stint at State. One was some young thing Hillary supposedly got a good job for.
She's just like Bill, mind you.
Now, if I were Pooty-Pooty, I'd be trying to discern just what her type was, and getting one of my top Russian spybabes to play the part and become Hillary's lover.
Maybe he already has.....
She's just like Bill, mind you.
Now, if I were Pooty-Pooty, I'd be trying to discern just what her type was, and getting one of my top Russian spybabes to play the part and become Hillary's lover.
Maybe he already has.....
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (DW+jj)
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It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
James Carville
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
James Carville
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (3ZoRf)
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You call Trump "outrageous." There are two senses for this word: 1) excessive, and 2) bold and unusual.
I'll grant you #2 but not #1. #2 is necessary for Just win baby!
Trump's press conference today should upend this evening's convention script. Can Obama get up on a podium and say what a great Madame Secretary Hillary was -- the best prepared Presidential candidate in history? How Trump should never get near the nuclear football?
If MSM keeps humping this BS for Hillary, they will be made to look ridiculous, because facts you can't ignore will run away from the narrative. Not just to the over-informed such as AOSHQ readers, but to LIVs, not all of whom are dumb, just misinformed by MSM.
I'll grant you #2 but not #1. #2 is necessary for Just win baby!
Trump's press conference today should upend this evening's convention script. Can Obama get up on a podium and say what a great Madame Secretary Hillary was -- the best prepared Presidential candidate in history? How Trump should never get near the nuclear football?
If MSM keeps humping this BS for Hillary, they will be made to look ridiculous, because facts you can't ignore will run away from the narrative. Not just to the over-informed such as AOSHQ readers, but to LIVs, not all of whom are dumb, just misinformed by MSM.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (r1fLd)
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Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Good one.
Golf clap.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Good one.
Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (fu1JC)
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>> 4) SO ... what this is all about is that the Russians are
>> bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological
>> torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
I said this yesterday and I'll say it again.
First off, it's in no way treason emotional or otherwise to believe that the Russians got Hillary's email (and maybe the DNC). It is a rational risk-assessment based on what we know about how her people handed security and the whole issue should be discussed widely.
It's also head-in-the-ground foolish to believe that ONLY the Russians got in there. If the Russians could do it a bunch of other states and non-state entities could as well.
Some of those actors may be in fact at cross-purposes to Russia and Russia's goals in holding the email. It's also not unreasonable to believe that this release was a warning shot from some other organization NOT the Russian government.
>> bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological
>> torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
I said this yesterday and I'll say it again.
First off, it's in no way treason emotional or otherwise to believe that the Russians got Hillary's email (and maybe the DNC). It is a rational risk-assessment based on what we know about how her people handed security and the whole issue should be discussed widely.
It's also head-in-the-ground foolish to believe that ONLY the Russians got in there. If the Russians could do it a bunch of other states and non-state entities could as well.
Some of those actors may be in fact at cross-purposes to Russia and Russia's goals in holding the email. It's also not unreasonable to believe that this release was a warning shot from some other organization NOT the Russian government.
Posted by: JEM at July 27, 2016 02:21 PM (o+SC1)
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Saying Putin is a good leader (for Russia) is bad.
Saying Hugo Chavez was a good leader (Sean Pinnhead), sucking up to Castro (SCOAMF and Bernie), and having a Mao jacket jerk sock for China fantasies (Thomass Friedman) is all a-okay, number one good think.
Got it.
Saying Hugo Chavez was a good leader (Sean Pinnhead), sucking up to Castro (SCOAMF and Bernie), and having a Mao jacket jerk sock for China fantasies (Thomass Friedman) is all a-okay, number one good think.
Got it.
Posted by: some despots are more equal than others at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (H9MG5)
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i saw the press conference and cnn's outrage afterward. Gregory, et al were furious that trump was asking russia to hack hillary's email; that he was colluding with the most serious threat to the nation (quoting natl sec. agy.) and that he was therefore disqualified for office.
1. trump did not call for them to hack killary.
2. they mocked romney for saying russia was a threat.
3. oh jeez i could go on but...why even try...
how in the world they could jump from trump calling for russia's relkewase of hillary's criminally deleted emails to his calling for more hacking is beyond me.
gregory is dumb, but they all jumped in with absolute certainty on the matter and their conclusions. they just looked very stupid, blindly partisan and bizarre.
1. trump did not call for them to hack killary.
2. they mocked romney for saying russia was a threat.
3. oh jeez i could go on but...why even try...
how in the world they could jump from trump calling for russia's relkewase of hillary's criminally deleted emails to his calling for more hacking is beyond me.
gregory is dumb, but they all jumped in with absolute certainty on the matter and their conclusions. they just looked very stupid, blindly partisan and bizarre.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (WTSFk)
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Did Chesterton get Mexico to pay for his fence?
Posted by: Mortimer - joking around like a jackass at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (Hpys7)
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Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Rush. Similar level of bombast and superficiality.
Of course he wouldn't do it. They need someone from their own side.
Al Franken might pull it off.
Rush. Similar level of bombast and superficiality.
Of course he wouldn't do it. They need someone from their own side.
Al Franken might pull it off.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)
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When the Russians were Communists, they could do no wrong. Comrade Bernie Sanders went there for his honeymoon!
Now that they have abandoned Communism, they go back to being evil and backward.
Now that they have abandoned Communism, they go back to being evil and backward.
Posted by: The DNC at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (4+VII)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (CH3GY)
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The People of the Countries involved need to start making up their minds whether or not they like Vodka better than Whiskey.
And whether they like falafel and hummus better than either, while they're thinking about it.
And whether they like falafel and hummus better than either, while they're thinking about it.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (iIzG7)
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World history may disagree with you on that.
WWI was a huge mistake and we never should have gotten involved. WW2 we stayed out of until personally attacked and people declared war on us. Then it was our war.
If they fight, let them fight. Not our problem. Europe has been warring more or less constantly for thousands of years.
WWI was a huge mistake and we never should have gotten involved. WW2 we stayed out of until personally attacked and people declared war on us. Then it was our war.
If they fight, let them fight. Not our problem. Europe has been warring more or less constantly for thousands of years.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)
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Everybody is reporting this as Trump 'invites' Russia to hack Hillary's emails. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (lIU4e)
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326 Saying Putin is a good leader (for Russia) is bad.
Saying Hugo Chavez was a good leader (Sean Pinnhead), sucking up to Castro (SCOAMF and Bernie), and having a Mao jacket jerk sock for China fantasies (Thomass Friedman) is all a-okay, number one good think.
Got it.
Posted by: some despots are more equal than others at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (H9MG5)
They're both stupid statements.
Saying Hugo Chavez was a good leader (Sean Pinnhead), sucking up to Castro (SCOAMF and Bernie), and having a Mao jacket jerk sock for China fantasies (Thomass Friedman) is all a-okay, number one good think.
Got it.
Posted by: some despots are more equal than others at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (H9MG5)
They're both stupid statements.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (27m1/)
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Goog G-D that was a long post? What was said?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (Ozsfq)
Laugh gas only for patents.
Goog G-D that was a long post? What was said?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:02 PM (Ozsfq)
Laugh gas only for patents.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (F1iXz)
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The Italicans will not be confined. They will break out. They will get out of control, and we will all lose our eyesight.
When you see a meme, cross it.
The Italicans will not be confined. They will break out. They will get out of control, and we will all lose our eyesight.
When you see a meme, cross it.
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (h/n4g)
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While I agree that some of Trump's statements could potentially escalate things - or be misinterpreted by Russia - I do think that NATO policy is something that the American people should be able to weigh in on, and shouldn't necessarily be something that is only discussed behind closed doors.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Chupacabra at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (chLX7)
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There is another question, because I don't think this country would end before 2020, even with Clinton in office. We're not that weak.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
This 'might' be a valid point not given our particular circumstances. The Supreme Court vacancies (both current and imminent) make it a fundamental necessity that Hillary not win.
I do not like it, but that is where I am at.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
This 'might' be a valid point not given our particular circumstances. The Supreme Court vacancies (both current and imminent) make it a fundamental necessity that Hillary not win.
I do not like it, but that is where I am at.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (3ZoRf)
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It was the Russians and if Donna Brazile is to be believed (hah), the emails were "altered".
They've got everyone including their Twiitrr Mob talking about everything but the actual damaging content.
Congratulations.
They've got everyone including their Twiitrr Mob talking about everything but the actual damaging content.
Congratulations.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (KdXXc)
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how in the world they could jump from trump calling for russia's relkewase of hillary's criminally deleted emails to his calling for more hacking is beyond me.
gregory is dumb, but they all jumped in with absolute certainty on the matter and their conclusions. they just looked very stupid, blindly partisan and bizarre.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (WTSFk)
Yes...Anyone who thinks Trump as calling for the Ruskies to hack The FAB is truly dumb and a fuckin asshole.
how in the world they could jump from trump calling for russia's relkewase of hillary's criminally deleted emails to his calling for more hacking is beyond me.
gregory is dumb, but they all jumped in with absolute certainty on the matter and their conclusions. they just looked very stupid, blindly partisan and bizarre.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (WTSFk)
Yes...Anyone who thinks Trump as calling for the Ruskies to hack The FAB is truly dumb and a fuckin asshole.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Ozsfq)
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Even better the SCOMF will be speaking tonight to talk up and talk-up Hillary her qualifications, competency etc.. they will look like buffoons with this in the news.
Not that anybody at the DNC will care but it just might sink in to few LIV's at home.
Not that anybody at the DNC will care but it just might sink in to few LIV's at home.
Posted by: Ripley at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (1BQGO)
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Fed leaves the Rates Unchanged
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM
So the economy is roaring. Not.
Fed leaves the Rates Unchanged
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:13 PM
So the economy is roaring. Not.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (IqV8l)
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ALSO ALSO the summer receptionist is a very sweet, very adorable, VERY YOUNG lady.
"Get them while they're young, Evita, get them while they're young. . ."
ALSO ALSO the summer receptionist is a very sweet, very adorable, VERY YOUNG lady.
"Get them while they're young, Evita, get them while they're young. . ."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (X6fMO)
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There is another question, because I don't think this country would end before 2020, even with Clinton in office. We're not that weak.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
Not freaking likely to survive till 2020 with her. Think about how far we've come since Barky took over.
The other question is: Would four years of Clinton be worse then a decade, probably more, with both major parties dedicated to big-government authoritarianism, with any concern for the Constitutional totally marginalized.
That's a pretty big question.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:18 PM (mFkVC)
you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
Not freaking likely to survive till 2020 with her. Think about how far we've come since Barky took over.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (X+nFp)
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>>Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
Morton Downey Jr., reanimated.
Morton Downey Jr., reanimated.
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (PjWy4)
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Dmitri, i cannot believe one woman can write so many emails about yoga!
Posted by: Hacker Ivan at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (PNcou)
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329 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)
Rush is a lot of things. But superficial ain't one of them. If anyone goes head to head with him, especially from the left, it wouldn't be a contest.
Rush is a lot of things. But superficial ain't one of them. If anyone goes head to head with him, especially from the left, it wouldn't be a contest.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (27m1/)
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It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
Joe Biden. Because he whips out with bullshit on such a regular basis, there's no telling what he'll say. And do it with a straight face. Go back and listen to his debate with Sarah Palin. She could've started pretty much any of her answers with "Everything that guy said is bullshit."
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
Joe Biden. Because he whips out with bullshit on such a regular basis, there's no telling what he'll say. And do it with a straight face. Go back and listen to his debate with Sarah Palin. She could've started pretty much any of her answers with "Everything that guy said is bullshit."
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (oqI3S)
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Al Franken might pull it off.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)
How about Howard Dean?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)
How about Howard Dean?
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (7lVbc)
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Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
*****
Chris Christie. Same attitude.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
*****
Chris Christie. Same attitude.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (XlMnV)
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Western Europe is doing a great job of driving our Eastern European allies into the Arms of Russia, the country and government that is working and fighting to keep Islamists out of their country and surrounding countries.
We could be natural allies with Russia in the fight against Islam, but Obama/Clinton/Bush have sided with the Ismalists and the Muslim Brotherhood. Western Europe as well.
But Russia is who we need to worry about when the real enemy of Islamists and psychopaths are in our government.
We could be natural allies with Russia in the fight against Islam, but Obama/Clinton/Bush have sided with the Ismalists and the Muslim Brotherhood. Western Europe as well.
But Russia is who we need to worry about when the real enemy of Islamists and psychopaths are in our government.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (UkK38)
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Or Ed Rendell?
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (7lVbc)
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Remember: 1984 was an instruction manual on how to maintain opposing facts in the same brain space.
Posted by: Chupacabra at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (chLX7)
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So the economy is roaring. Not.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (IqV8l)
But apparently they are also gong to intimate that there are signs of strength? A sop to the left
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (IqV8l)
But apparently they are also gong to intimate that there are signs of strength? A sop to the left
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (dyX6r)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (mgbwf)
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So the economy is roaring. Not.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
Only a poor would say such a thing. SNIFFF~~!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
Only a poor would say such a thing. SNIFFF~~!!
Posted by: Mr. Hawaiian Dress at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Mortimer at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (Hpys7)
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The same people crowing right now about the DNC emails will be blasting the IRS if they did leak his returns and there was something harmful in them.
You mean like happened to Romney?
Sorry, the time to think about locking up that gate is not four years after the horse bolted, ran off to the open country, and started siring colts with every filly he could find.
You mean like happened to Romney?
Sorry, the time to think about locking up that gate is not four years after the horse bolted, ran off to the open country, and started siring colts with every filly he could find.
Posted by: The F B I at July 27, 2016 02:25 PM (9krrF)
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337 Laugh gas only for patents.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (F1iXz)
You call him DOCTOR Jones!
- - Short Round.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (F1iXz)
You call him DOCTOR Jones!
- - Short Round.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (27m1/)
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you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
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Not what I said.
Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
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Not what I said.
Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: ajmojo at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (1H9ox)
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Insty suggested that this "Russia did it" is a false flag operation by Clinton.
Surely the Russians aren't as stupid as they are being made out to be, like only working on Moscow times and taking off on holidays.
Surely the Russians aren't as stupid as they are being made out to be, like only working on Moscow times and taking off on holidays.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (F1iXz)
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Yes...Anyone who thinks Trump as calling for the Ruskies to hack The FAB is truly dumb and a fuckin asshole.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Ozsfq)
he could only be calling for the russian's to hac her emails if he wanted them to hack them from another country or if hillary has another secret server somewhere.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Ozsfq)
he could only be calling for the russian's to hac her emails if he wanted them to hack them from another country or if hillary has another secret server somewhere.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (AoSQU)
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well we're the least diseased whore in the whorehouse compared to them.
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that. . .
well we're the least diseased whore in the whorehouse compared to them.
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that. . .
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (X6fMO)
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... it was just so weird to watch gregory et al at cnn passionately denounce trump for something that didn't happen 5 minutes before...
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (WTSFk)
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I simply do not give a shit what Trump says.
Hillary Clinton in the White House is an Extinction Level Event. Period. Stop. End of discussion.
I view all things through this prism.
Also we are well beyond caring about the propriety of the POTUS.
We've already had one president finger banging an intern with a cigar humidor and another giving aid and comfort to cop killers and the democrat nominee for the presidency saying she's going to offer up and amendment to the constitution making critiscing her illegal so there is literally nothing Trump can say or do at this point that cause me to not vote for and support him.
NOTHING!!!!
Hillary Clinton in the White House is an Extinction Level Event. Period. Stop. End of discussion.
I view all things through this prism.
Also we are well beyond caring about the propriety of the POTUS.
We've already had one president finger banging an intern with a cigar humidor and another giving aid and comfort to cop killers and the democrat nominee for the presidency saying she's going to offer up and amendment to the constitution making critiscing her illegal so there is literally nothing Trump can say or do at this point that cause me to not vote for and support him.
NOTHING!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (3Xxpy)
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If they fight, let them fight. Not our problem. Europe has been warring more or less constantly for thousands of years.
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They have, but history shows that many of those wars eventually involve us. Usually at great cost. Obviously, it is something the American people should weigh in on. We don't have to agree.
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They have, but history shows that many of those wars eventually involve us. Usually at great cost. Obviously, it is something the American people should weigh in on. We don't have to agree.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (gmeXX)
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... all done.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (WTSFk)
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>>>Al Franken might pull it off.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)<<<
Guess you didn't see Stuart Smalley the other night with Skanky Silverman?
He couldn't even stretch for a few minutes as they tried to get zombie Paul Simon ready for his "song". It was a disaster... but you know, typical Franken.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (mgbwf)<<<
Guess you didn't see Stuart Smalley the other night with Skanky Silverman?
He couldn't even stretch for a few minutes as they tried to get zombie Paul Simon ready for his "song". It was a disaster... but you know, typical Franken.
Posted by: not the stand in you're looking for at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (H9MG5)
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I'm a person. A person with questions. I'm also a concerned person. A person who both questions and has concerns.
I'm a person with serious questions. Questions from a person who's concerned. Concerned by questions. Questions about people. People like me. People with concerns.
Thank you for your time.
A message from the American Association of Concerned, Questioning Persons
I'm a person with serious questions. Questions from a person who's concerned. Concerned by questions. Questions about people. People like me. People with concerns.
Thank you for your time.
A message from the American Association of Concerned, Questioning Persons
Posted by: A person, with concerns at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (WlGX+)
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you cannot possibly be serious. no way having clinton in office makes it more likely that the Constitution will be less violated than Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
Peter Schweizer considers her and Bill the most corrupt politicians in the country, bar none. He thinks we go to full-fledged 3rd world country if she's elected.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (AoSQU)
Peter Schweizer considers her and Bill the most corrupt politicians in the country, bar none. He thinks we go to full-fledged 3rd world country if she's elected.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (7lVbc)
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Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (mFkVC)
Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional" ...Yeah Yeah you'll quote me some off handed statement he made I know.
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (mFkVC)
Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional" ...Yeah Yeah you'll quote me some off handed statement he made I know.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (Ozsfq)
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Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
And you honestly think the media would sit back and let Trump do that?
And you honestly think the media would sit back and let Trump do that?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (3rpCw)
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Yes, let us continue to talk about the breathtaking secretiveness, scurrilous underhandedness, and the stunning incompetence of Hillary Clinton at every executive position she has ever held just as her party has cemented her for their nominee.
Thank you Donald "I Am The Outrage" Trump for keeping this scene rolling.
Thank you Donald "I Am The Outrage" Trump for keeping this scene rolling.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (hLRSq)
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335 Everybody is reporting this as Trump 'invites' Russia to hack Hillary's emails. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (lIU4e)
The dishonesty from the Ministry of Truth is staggering. Also the stupidity. Her emails have ALREADY been hacked, as anyone with an IQ above room temperature well knows.
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (lIU4e)
The dishonesty from the Ministry of Truth is staggering. Also the stupidity. Her emails have ALREADY been hacked, as anyone with an IQ above room temperature well knows.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (SRKgf)
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Not what I said.
Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (mFkVC)
the question is which is worse, clinton or Trump?
who are you voting for?
Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
If Trump wins, Trumpism becomes the dominant strain in the GOP alliance. For what is, in all probability, more then a decade, we wind up with two parties with the same basic ideology. And it isn't Constitutionalism.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:26 PM (mFkVC)
the question is which is worse, clinton or Trump?
who are you voting for?
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (AoSQU)
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Hillary is finding out that the problem with buying Russian Oligarchs is that they don't stay bought.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (CH3GY)
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Trump at close of press conference: "I think it's time for Hillary Clinton to do a press conference."
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Before or after her people write and/or approve of the questions to be asked?
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Before or after her people write and/or approve of the questions to be asked?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (+FSld)
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person
The GOPE and the DEMS have the SAME IDEOLOGY NOW, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
mental
Masturbation
person
The GOPE and the DEMS have the SAME IDEOLOGY NOW, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
mental
Masturbation
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (dyX6r)
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I see that aimless troll remains aimless.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (evdj2)
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And you honestly think the media would sit back and let Trump do that?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (3rpCw)
Ignore the troll.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (3rpCw)
Ignore the troll.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:28 PM (SRKgf)
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Everybody is reporting this as Trump 'invites' Russia to hack Hillary's emails. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (lIU4e)
*****
They are acting as if her server is still live or something.
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:22 PM (lIU4e)
*****
They are acting as if her server is still live or something.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (XlMnV)
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Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (Ozsfq)
He turned me into a newt.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (Ozsfq)
He turned me into a newt.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (oqI3S)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Zombie Borgnine at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (CH3GY)
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Oh, I just had a vicious thought!
Bill Clinton.
He knows how to push all of her buttons and could reduce her to tears and then say "it's just role playing, honey".
Also, I want PPV rights.
Bill Clinton.
He knows how to push all of her buttons and could reduce her to tears and then say "it's just role playing, honey".
Also, I want PPV rights.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: ajmojo at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (evdj2)
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Prosecutors just dropped remaining charges against police in Baltimore during #DemsInPhilly so what could go wrong?
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From Stranahan. Isnt the timing designed to encourage a riot by the usual suspects?
Prosecutors just dropped remaining charges against police in Baltimore during #DemsInPhilly so what could go wrong?
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From Stranahan. Isnt the timing designed to encourage a riot by the usual suspects?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (iQIUe)
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"I want to see a debate moderator try and pull a Candy Crowley..."
Point of information: The purported journalist in question is correctly identified as-
"I ate all the" Candy Crowley.
Point of information: The purported journalist in question is correctly identified as-
"I ate all the" Candy Crowley.
Posted by: Twin City Daydrunk at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (TSJEX)
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Excellent points all! This post is a keeper.
Posted by: Crowley at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (ba6SM)
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This might actually be a tactic statement. The MSM will be reminding everyone that Hillary was most likely hacked and that Russia is dangerous all the way up to her coronation speech. All Trump has to do is say, "You wanted a reset. Seems like you got it."
Posted by: Chicago Vota at July 27, 2016 02:29 PM (xkAsZ)
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Rrpuicans have been playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules for some time now while the Demceats have ties their shoelaces together and shit in their oatmeal.
Excellent visual .
+10 for the sadism,poop and breakfast cereal combo
+ 2 for encrypted spelling
Excellent visual .
+10 for the sadism,poop and breakfast cereal combo
+ 2 for encrypted spelling
Posted by: Mortimer at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (Hpys7)
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The Fed's statement, which is goobledygook is "#TwoWeeks" basically. Things are looking good, green shoots everywhere. Jobs look great, household spending looks great, but just not as great as warrants raising rates.
But we're likely to have to raise 'em. Soon. Real soon. The Fed rate futures, for those who like to bet on such things, jumped a bit, predicting a higher probability of a rate hike down the road.
But we're likely to have to raise 'em. Soon. Real soon. The Fed rate futures, for those who like to bet on such things, jumped a bit, predicting a higher probability of a rate hike down the road.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (DW+jj)
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Trump at close of press conference: "I think it's time for Hillary Clinton to do a press conference."
What's the betting line that she will actually do one now?
After all, when Trump beat her and Obongo over the head to say the words "radical Islam," they caved the next day.
What's the betting line that she will actually do one now?
After all, when Trump beat her and Obongo over the head to say the words "radical Islam," they caved the next day.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (SRKgf)
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well in person's defense I will say that mental masturbation does save on the hand cream bills
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (Ozsfq)
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355 Western Europe is doing a great job of driving our Eastern European allies into the Arms of Russia, the country and government that is working and fighting to keep Islamists out of their country and surrounding countries.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (UkK3
This is absolutely untrue. Eastern Europe has ABSOLUTELY no desire to go into "the Arms of Russia" (with the partial exception of Belarus.)
If you want to go somewhere where people still love the US, visit much of Eastern Europe.
But no, let's betray them to a despot. Because we've abandoned entitlement reform and all other spending cuts, and like good Democrats can only talk about cutting defense.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (UkK3
This is absolutely untrue. Eastern Europe has ABSOLUTELY no desire to go into "the Arms of Russia" (with the partial exception of Belarus.)
If you want to go somewhere where people still love the US, visit much of Eastern Europe.
But no, let's betray them to a despot. Because we've abandoned entitlement reform and all other spending cuts, and like good Democrats can only talk about cutting defense.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (mFkVC)
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388 Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional"
What? He ordered his campaign manager to rip my arm clean off and beat me about the head with it.
What? He ordered his campaign manager to rip my arm clean off and beat me about the head with it.
Posted by: Michelle Feelds at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (WlGX+)
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I was all "Who is this speech monitor asshole Conor Fridersdorf?" because I genuinely don't know, and I get tired of the glorified blogger flavor of the hour (no offense, present company would never earn that derision, you're simply not faddish enough) being quoted as an authority of some kind.
But then you took it exactly where I wanted you to.
#NeverTrump and the Clinton campaign have fully turned me. I can't take their pearl-clutching, hyperbolic, humorless, frothing, hyperventilating, over-literal shit. Here I was thinking I'd have to hold my nose, or even abstain, but no! My exhaustion with the censors of the right on top of the censors of the left is now paradoxically building my enthusiasm for election day.
But then you took it exactly where I wanted you to.
#NeverTrump and the Clinton campaign have fully turned me. I can't take their pearl-clutching, hyperbolic, humorless, frothing, hyperventilating, over-literal shit. Here I was thinking I'd have to hold my nose, or even abstain, but no! My exhaustion with the censors of the right on top of the censors of the left is now paradoxically building my enthusiasm for election day.
Posted by: 0302 at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (wx6iv)
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66 Of course they have her emails. You would be stupid, no wait, beyond stupid, to assume otherwise. So, when those emails are released Hillary is going to suffer mightily. If the emails aren't released that can only mean one thing: the various parties who hold them are getting better value from her through blackmail.
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If I had as many self-inflicted dangers as Hillary, I'd probably stay drunk all the time like she does, and live in a private world of make-believe like she does.
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If I had as many self-inflicted dangers as Hillary, I'd probably stay drunk all the time like she does, and live in a private world of make-believe like she does.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (/f6Nd)
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Because God knows I am no hacker and I wouldn't have the foggiest idea if a professional intelligence agency couldn't work it's way from the DNC's server to those in the White House.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (hLRSq)
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Both Clinton and Trump would shred the Constitution for four years (the difference is Clinton would know when she is doing it.)
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I couldn't disagree more. But it's just opinions one way or the other, no facts, so hopefully you'll vote on reality rather than a dreamy vision of a dark future.
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I couldn't disagree more. But it's just opinions one way or the other, no facts, so hopefully you'll vote on reality rather than a dreamy vision of a dark future.
Posted by: MTF at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (/m8T6)
408
"I want to see a debate moderator try and pull a Candy Crowley..."
That would definitely be an instant Youtube classic.
That would definitely be an instant Youtube classic.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: ajmojo at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (1H9ox)
410
What? He ordered his campaign manager to rip my arm clean off and beat me about the head with it.
It's a tax!
It's a tax!
Posted by: Dread Justice Roberts at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (evdj2)
411
mental
Masturbation
Posted by: ThunderB
Is there a treatment for chronic mental masturbation? Our resident concerned person is probably chafing like a mofo.
Masturbation
Posted by: ThunderB
Is there a treatment for chronic mental masturbation? Our resident concerned person is probably chafing like a mofo.
Posted by: Leonardo DiCaprio at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (UPYhp)
412
So is this the new psychotherapy thread to go along with the other medical thread?
" ... email dump ..."
So what did old Sigmund have to say about taking a good dump?
" ... email dump ..."
So what did old Sigmund have to say about taking a good dump?
Posted by: dissent555 at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (r3KsD)
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Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (Ozsfq)
He turned me into a newt.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Meh. You got better.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:27 PM (Ozsfq)
He turned me into a newt.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Meh. You got better.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:31 PM (FeRav)
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The Rule implies "Do not impose rules on others that you find too restrictive or onerous to obey yourself."
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The problem in this case is those on the left who actually do walk the walk. Ed Beggley Jr. is one of those green lunatics who demands that his way of living be forced on everyone.
His way is quite onerous and draconian.
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The problem in this case is those on the left who actually do walk the walk. Ed Beggley Jr. is one of those green lunatics who demands that his way of living be forced on everyone.
His way is quite onerous and draconian.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (0x/TW)
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#SaynotoTwitter
Now I'll go finish the thread topic
Now I'll go finish the thread topic
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (bksJQ)
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>>>401 well in person's defense I will say that mental masturbation does save on the hand cream bills
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (Ozsfq)
Lot less wear on the socks too.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (Ozsfq)
Lot less wear on the socks too.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (X/qvg)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (h/n4g)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (PjWy4)
420
Off "raped by a bear" sock.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (UPYhp)
Posted by: Mortimer at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (Hpys7)
422
does anyone have any info on how many delegates at the DNC are teachers this year? In years past it has been a large number, but haven't seen anything on it this year.
I'm in a discussion and could use the data.
Thanks
I'm in a discussion and could use the data.
Thanks
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (TnUKj)
423
"3. Wouldn't it be delicious if Russia (or China, or Julian Assange) released the emails and proved that Hillary was a liar and Comey a stooge?"
Do we need her emails to prove any of that? What if the Chinese hacked the RNC? They hacked the U.S. government. I'm sure the RNC is a piece of cake.
Do we need her emails to prove any of that? What if the Chinese hacked the RNC? They hacked the U.S. government. I'm sure the RNC is a piece of cake.
Posted by: Wendy at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (bpemY)
424
... now i'm done. swearsies.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (WTSFk)
425
I stick with my belief that a poor policy freely chosen is still better than a perfect policy imposed.
Any that disagree suck cock by choice.
Any that disagree suck cock by choice.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (evdj2)
426
Holy Shit, Ace.
This is literally the best thing I've ever read in my entire life. I'm going to have it framed and hung in my living room AFTER I've tweeted it out and posted it on ever damn site on the internet.
Then I'm going out and getting the material to cross-stitch this into a really big f-ing pillow:
"You get to virtue signal -- while not straining under that burden yourself! Win-win!
2. Human beings' motivations are very opaque to themselves. People tend to think of themselves -- at least in their public, performative Online Theatrical presentation of themselves -- as so highly morally refined as to be above all self-serving behavior. They think of themselves -- or at least talk of themselves as if they think of themselves -- as nearly entirely selfless individuals, concerned only for the public good, whether that be equality in the case of progressives or the American patriotic interest in the case of conservatives.
They almost never question their own motives."
I've been trying like hell to explain this to the #nevertrump (virtue signaling or fantastical Cruz as frontrunner 2020 nitwits) for months.
You have my undying respect as the one person with self awarness on the internet.
wow
This is literally the best thing I've ever read in my entire life. I'm going to have it framed and hung in my living room AFTER I've tweeted it out and posted it on ever damn site on the internet.
Then I'm going out and getting the material to cross-stitch this into a really big f-ing pillow:
"You get to virtue signal -- while not straining under that burden yourself! Win-win!
2. Human beings' motivations are very opaque to themselves. People tend to think of themselves -- at least in their public, performative Online Theatrical presentation of themselves -- as so highly morally refined as to be above all self-serving behavior. They think of themselves -- or at least talk of themselves as if they think of themselves -- as nearly entirely selfless individuals, concerned only for the public good, whether that be equality in the case of progressives or the American patriotic interest in the case of conservatives.
They almost never question their own motives."
I've been trying like hell to explain this to the #nevertrump (virtue signaling or fantastical Cruz as frontrunner 2020 nitwits) for months.
You have my undying respect as the one person with self awarness on the internet.
wow
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (eSQgj)
427
Exactly how do you blackmail Hillary Clinton as president? There is nothing in her e-mails that is any worse than what is out there already.
The only way it would matter is if the Republicans had 67% of both House and Senate and they somehow grew spines in the next four years. I am more likely to win the Lottery than that happening.
The only way it would matter is if the Republicans had 67% of both House and Senate and they somehow grew spines in the next four years. I am more likely to win the Lottery than that happening.
Posted by: JB1000 at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (16OL0)
428
Rrpuicans have been playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules
Marquess. Everyone gets that wrong.
Yes, I'm a dick.
Marquess. Everyone gets that wrong.
Yes, I'm a dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (mgbwf)
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314
Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
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Scott Adams. Linguistic kill shot.
Donald lives in off-the-cuff land.
It would be an interesting discussion for the Horde - suppose that you were in charge of prepping Scankles for her debates with Teh Donald. Who would you pick - who could you pick? - that could approximate his bluster, his shooting from the hip and his (let's be honest) somewhat surface knowledge of geopolitics?
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
++++
Scott Adams. Linguistic kill shot.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:33 PM (R+30W)
430
Shhhh! Nobody tell Hinkley that Hillz is having a lesbian affair with Jodie Foster.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: The Great Carnac at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (CH3GY)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (lKyWE)
433
"Former facebook workers confirm that Facebook suppressed trending Conservative news stories"
Unpossible. I mean, we have it on no lesser authority than that of Glenn Beck, who personally met with Zuckerberg, and who patiently assured us all afterwards that everything was on the up and up at Facebook.
Unpossible. I mean, we have it on no lesser authority than that of Glenn Beck, who personally met with Zuckerberg, and who patiently assured us all afterwards that everything was on the up and up at Facebook.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (noWW6)
434
I'm watching Catalonia. They just voted to secede from Spain. Possible early indicator.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (7ZVPa)
435
315 This is threadworthy: Former facebook workers confirm that Facebook suppressed trending Conservative news stories:
http://tinyurl.com/jv4ocx3
Posted by: looking closely at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (8Ijen
On top of all the other nefarious reasons, people in this country still use the damn thing. They treat it as a necessity like Oxygen to breathe and water to drink.
http://tinyurl.com/jv4ocx3
Posted by: looking closely at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (8Ijen
On top of all the other nefarious reasons, people in this country still use the damn thing. They treat it as a necessity like Oxygen to breathe and water to drink.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (UkK38)
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>>His making this comment BEFORE HER BIG ACCEPTANCE SPEECH FORCES TO MEDIA TO COVER IT. TONIGHT
Just imagine how PISSED she was this morning when Trump knocked her loving husband's awesome speech and her officially getting the Dem nomination off the top of the news cycle.
Wonder how many things were thrown?
Will have to check Bill tonight to see if he's injured....
Just imagine how PISSED she was this morning when Trump knocked her loving husband's awesome speech and her officially getting the Dem nomination off the top of the news cycle.
Wonder how many things were thrown?
Will have to check Bill tonight to see if he's injured....
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (NOIQH)
437
>> Mental Masturbation
*Holds envelope to Foreheard*
Mind over Fapper.
Posted by: The Great Carnac at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (CH3GY)
I chuckled out loud.
*Holds envelope to Foreheard*
Mind over Fapper.
Posted by: The Great Carnac at July 27, 2016 02:34 PM (CH3GY)
I chuckled out loud.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (evdj2)
438
I really like how Trump is bringing guns to this knife fight with the corrupt Clinton-media complex. It's very important and long past due that someone did this.
I wish he were just the hired gun though. He and Hillary are both unfit for office.
I have to wonder why Putin wants him. It's well known that many of the twitter Trumpists are Russian, and now it's coming out that some of the Trumpist commenters on political sites are too. I don't know what all this means.
It's thrilling seeing Hillary melting like the wicked witch, until I remember who the alternative is. If the polls are close n my state, I'll have to vote for him because judges, but there's a reason these are probably the two least appealing candidates in US history.
I wish he were just the hired gun though. He and Hillary are both unfit for office.
I have to wonder why Putin wants him. It's well known that many of the twitter Trumpists are Russian, and now it's coming out that some of the Trumpist commenters on political sites are too. I don't know what all this means.
It's thrilling seeing Hillary melting like the wicked witch, until I remember who the alternative is. If the polls are close n my state, I'll have to vote for him because judges, but there's a reason these are probably the two least appealing candidates in US history.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (ozZau)
439
Of Hillary does a presscon someone from Breitbart needs to sneak in and real questions so she gets discombobulated and start her insane head bobbing.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (7lVbc)
440
Quick, without looking it up, what is the term for a female Marquess (the wife of a Marquess) in the Brit peerage?
And the female version in France and the rest of the continent for extra credit?
And the female version in France and the rest of the continent for extra credit?
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (DW+jj)
441
About those NATO comments:
Gee, last time I checked Europe was destabilizing Europe. Mr.Trump was just pointing out one of the symptoms.
European countries are supposed to be creating a supranational Europe. Problem is, what German gives a rats patootie if a Greek takes it in the shorts. No supranational allegiance that matched national allegiance. It's almost like the way Texas looks at Vermont.
Gee, last time I checked Europe was destabilizing Europe. Mr.Trump was just pointing out one of the symptoms.
European countries are supposed to be creating a supranational Europe. Problem is, what German gives a rats patootie if a Greek takes it in the shorts. No supranational allegiance that matched national allegiance. It's almost like the way Texas looks at Vermont.
Posted by: Headless Body of Stimpy at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (FtrY1)
442
I've always thought #2, releasing some, even if it's under the Russian goverment doesn't mean the most important will come out especially in public.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (bksJQ)
443
well in person's defense I will say that mental masturbation does save on the hand cream bills>>>
What happens to all the Mind babies?
well in person's defense I will say that mental masturbation does save on the hand cream bills>>>
What happens to all the Mind babies?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (aVYsC)
444
>> Mental Masturbation
*Holds envelope to Foreheard*
Mind over Fapper.
Posted by: The Great Carnac
HA HA HA!
YES!
*Holds envelope to Foreheard*
Mind over Fapper.
Posted by: The Great Carnac
HA HA HA!
YES!
Posted by: Ed McMahan at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (UPYhp)
445
I have to wonder why Putin wants him.
***
Putin doesn't want America arming ISIS and starting random wars for reasons no one can fathom (like Syria or Libya)?
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Putin doesn't want America arming ISIS and starting random wars for reasons no one can fathom (like Syria or Libya)?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (X7E8f)
446
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 27, 2016 01:32 PM (mgbwf)
Her server was completely unprotected. Period. The Russians/Chinese hack government servers all day which are protected.
Do we know if there are germs on the door handles of the gas station restroom, the one which hasn't been cleaned since the '60s?
Do we know that for sure?
Her server was completely unprotected. Period. The Russians/Chinese hack government servers all day which are protected.
Do we know if there are germs on the door handles of the gas station restroom, the one which hasn't been cleaned since the '60s?
Do we know that for sure?
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (eSQgj)
447
I've pretty much decided that any "reasonable" discourse about current events, issues and leaders has become nothing more than an attempt to normalize the unspeakable, and I no longer participate.
For decades, I had managed to maintain cordial relationships with any number of status-quo liberals and rock-ribbed Republicans, but those days are gone; most of 'em don't speak to me anymore, or if they do, we mostly talk about the weather.
For decades, I had managed to maintain cordial relationships with any number of status-quo liberals and rock-ribbed Republicans, but those days are gone; most of 'em don't speak to me anymore, or if they do, we mostly talk about the weather.
Posted by: mkf at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (BjQDH)
448
>>I have to wonder why Putin wants him. It's well known that many of the
twitter Trumpists are Russian, and now it's coming out that some of the
Trumpist commenters on political sites are too. I don't know what all
this means.
Yeah.
For all we know he's just dicking with Hillary because he *can*.
He's probably grown tired of dicking with Obama in Syria, and with his ships and planes wandering into US waters/airspace.
twitter Trumpists are Russian, and now it's coming out that some of the
Trumpist commenters on political sites are too. I don't know what all
this means.
Yeah.
For all we know he's just dicking with Hillary because he *can*.
He's probably grown tired of dicking with Obama in Syria, and with his ships and planes wandering into US waters/airspace.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (NOIQH)
449
Randy: Mister Lahey, is this you or the liquor talking?
Lahey: Randy. (Takes a long drink from a whiskey bottle.) I *am* the liquor.
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It occurs to me -- Hillary *is* the liquor. If she dried out, she wouldn't be Hillary.
Lahey: Randy. (Takes a long drink from a whiskey bottle.) I *am* the liquor.
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It occurs to me -- Hillary *is* the liquor. If she dried out, she wouldn't be Hillary.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (/f6Nd)
450
I've been trying like hell to explain this to the #nevertrump (virtue signaling or fantastical Cruz as frontrunner 2020 nitwits) for months.
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And yet some of us still don't like him. I'm not virtue signalling. I don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't believe in the same things he does. Therefore I feel no need to vote for him. I'm not trying to change your vote, and I'm not saying that Hillary is better. I don't think Trump will destroy this country, but neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now.
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And yet some of us still don't like him. I'm not virtue signalling. I don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't believe in the same things he does. Therefore I feel no need to vote for him. I'm not trying to change your vote, and I'm not saying that Hillary is better. I don't think Trump will destroy this country, but neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)
451
2.2 is better because any fork stick in Hillary is a good thing
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (bksJQ)
452
Oh this should be fun by which I mean super batshit.
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him by Jackie.
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
453
Rrpuicans have been playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules
The Rrpuicans are Lizardoids. You cannot trust the Lizardoids. Trust us. We're the good guys. Yeah, we know, except for all the anal probing. But we're still better than those damn dirty Lizardoids.
The Rrpuicans are Lizardoids. You cannot trust the Lizardoids. Trust us. We're the good guys. Yeah, we know, except for all the anal probing. But we're still better than those damn dirty Lizardoids.
Posted by: The Grey Aliens at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Mortimer at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (Hpys7)
455
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
***
Joe Biden. Though he is kind of like a mentally challenged Trump...
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Joe Biden. Though he is kind of like a mentally challenged Trump...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 02:38 PM (X7E8f)
456
I stick with my belief that a poor policy freely chosen is still better than a perfect policy imposed.
Any that disagree suck cock by choice.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Keep your fuzzy owl in your pants.
There is no perfect policy on this earth. Never will be. Can't be.
So how about: "poor policy freely chosen is still better than an expertly contrived policy imposed" ?
Any that disagree suck cock by choice.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Keep your fuzzy owl in your pants.
There is no perfect policy on this earth. Never will be. Can't be.
So how about: "poor policy freely chosen is still better than an expertly contrived policy imposed" ?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2016 02:38 PM (VY8H5)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:38 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (X/qvg)
459
>>I have to wonder why Putin wants him.
Your victories are judged by the quality of your adversaries.
Your victories are judged by the quality of your adversaries.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (CH3GY)
460
I have to wonder why Putin wants him. It's well known that many of the twitter Trumpists are Russian, and now it's coming out that some of the Trumpist commenters on political sites are too. I don't know what all this means.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (ozZau)
Putin want to weaken NATO and reclaim territory he feels is his - like the Baltics. Trump seems to want to let him.
Putin is funding isolationist parties across Europe, such as the FN in France. He is very clever and very dangerous.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (ozZau)
Putin want to weaken NATO and reclaim territory he feels is his - like the Baltics. Trump seems to want to let him.
Putin is funding isolationist parties across Europe, such as the FN in France. He is very clever and very dangerous.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (mFkVC)
461
I delighted that she will be forced to address this on her big night
Remer how Trump used to get under the skin of his primary opponents. He'd find their weakness, their red button, and put his grubby fingers all over it, pushing again and again until he got a reaction
That's what he is doing here.
It's her big night, and her speech of a lifetime. And she will be paranoid and enraged.
Awesome
Remer how Trump used to get under the skin of his primary opponents. He'd find their weakness, their red button, and put his grubby fingers all over it, pushing again and again until he got a reaction
That's what he is doing here.
It's her big night, and her speech of a lifetime. And she will be paranoid and enraged.
Awesome
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (dyX6r)
Posted by: The Marquee of Queensbury at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (8ZskC)
463
Unless the Russians release them we will never be able to confirm that they have them, and must act as if they do have them: which is to say don't elect a President who is so compromised.
The best we could hope for is for them to release them so we would know whether or not they have them and get the benefit of know they have them..
The only way releasing them is damaging is if they contain secrets, which would prove Hillary a liar and it would hopefully prevent such a piece of scum as Hillary! from getting elected which would benefit the US.
The best we could hope for is for them to release them so we would know whether or not they have them and get the benefit of know they have them..
The only way releasing them is damaging is if they contain secrets, which would prove Hillary a liar and it would hopefully prevent such a piece of scum as Hillary! from getting elected which would benefit the US.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (kfcYC)
464
It's thrilling seeing Hillary melting like the wicked witch, until I remember who the alternative is. If the polls are close n my state, I'll have to vote for him because judges, but there's a reason these are probably the two least appealing candidates in US history.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (ozZau)
It's because God always gives us the candidates we deserve.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 02:35 PM (ozZau)
It's because God always gives us the candidates we deserve.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (oqI3S)
465
I think it's clear Putin hates HRC as much as the rest of the world
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (/CIN4)
Yes... he hates her so much that he invited her to his wedding(s) and met with her and Bill before he announced his run for the Presidency.
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 27, 2016 01:34 PM (/CIN4)
Yes... he hates her so much that he invited her to his wedding(s) and met with her and Bill before he announced his run for the Presidency.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
466
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
I would incline towards William DeVane. He sort of looks like Trump, and could sell you some gold while you're listening to the debate.
I would incline towards William DeVane. He sort of looks like Trump, and could sell you some gold while you're listening to the debate.
Posted by: pep at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (3e8zv)
467
neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)
her Supreme Court picks, alone, will destroy the Country
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)
her Supreme Court picks, alone, will destroy the Country
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (Ozsfq)
468
I don't think it was the Russian government. Could be a Russian individual, yes, but not the government. Why? Because what would be the point of dumping this stuff before the election? They would have all kinds of information they could use against a Hillary Administration. Why would they tip their hand? Why would they want Trump in charge when he is unpredictable and maybe they don't have much leverage over him at all?
I think it is more likely to be an Assange-type person who wants the truth out there. Thinks Hillary is a globalist (she is) and corrupt (she is) and wanted to expose that for all the world to see. I think the hacker despises the Clintons and other people like her who have massive wealth and control things on a global scale through government influence and corruption.
So, no, it's not the Russian government. But a more volatile character out there who has no loyalty to anyone but the average joe.
I think it is more likely to be an Assange-type person who wants the truth out there. Thinks Hillary is a globalist (she is) and corrupt (she is) and wanted to expose that for all the world to see. I think the hacker despises the Clintons and other people like her who have massive wealth and control things on a global scale through government influence and corruption.
So, no, it's not the Russian government. But a more volatile character out there who has no loyalty to anyone but the average joe.
Posted by: K-E at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (b+5gx)
469
Russia may have hacked the server? Really? A moron posted the login URL for Hillary's! server in a thread a couple of years ago before it was a Big Fucking Deal™.
We all know the ChiComs and Putin read the comments here daily. Just like Breitbart.
We all know the ChiComs and Putin read the comments here daily. Just like Breitbart.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (NHtMs)
470
'Is that you? Can you tell me what somebody like you, who uses the word "diplomacy", like she's chastising me, is doing at a rebel rally? '
* * *
To get to the question of the Russians, I would suggest a few things:
1) No, it's not the Russians doing the DNC bit. (But no, I don't have any proof whatsoever.)
2) But yes, they DID the hack. (See my earlier comment.)
3) I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
4) SO ... what this is all about is that the Russians are bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
Posted by: Optimizer at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (jPHi7)
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No doubt the Russians *hacked* the DNC -- there are Cyrillic characters somewhere, I heard. But was the *leak* authorized by Putin?
I still can't put it all together. "Psychological torture" is fun for individuals, but not nations, especially when it would be more advantageous to keep their cards close to their chest and wait until Hillary's elected to show them -- to Hillary only.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
* * *
To get to the question of the Russians, I would suggest a few things:
1) No, it's not the Russians doing the DNC bit. (But no, I don't have any proof whatsoever.)
2) But yes, they DID the hack. (See my earlier comment.)
3) I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
4) SO ... what this is all about is that the Russians are bullies and jerks. They simply ENJOY the psychological torture they're inflicting by talking about doing it.
Posted by: Optimizer at July 27, 2016 02:14 PM (jPHi7)
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No doubt the Russians *hacked* the DNC -- there are Cyrillic characters somewhere, I heard. But was the *leak* authorized by Putin?
I still can't put it all together. "Psychological torture" is fun for individuals, but not nations, especially when it would be more advantageous to keep their cards close to their chest and wait until Hillary's elected to show them -- to Hillary only.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (pC96u)
471
>A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Nice! *off to read*
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Nice! *off to read*
Posted by: Lea at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (lIU4e)
472
"I have to wonder why Putin wants him."
That it's the Russians that hacked the DNC has rapidly become an accepted fact. But it's not proven, let alone that Putin is actively working to defeat Hillary and install Trump.
Putin was involved in the uranium sale and Bill getting one of his highest ever speaking fees. So he's long known about Clinton Cash Corruption. I don't know which way this important fact cuts.
That it's the Russians that hacked the DNC has rapidly become an accepted fact. But it's not proven, let alone that Putin is actively working to defeat Hillary and install Trump.
Putin was involved in the uranium sale and Bill getting one of his highest ever speaking fees. So he's long known about Clinton Cash Corruption. I don't know which way this important fact cuts.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: The Chicken at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (8ZskC)
474
Yes... he hates her so much that he invited her to his wedding(s) and met with her and Bill before he announced his run for the Presidency.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
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I think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
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I think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mFkVC)
475
"I don't believe Trump will destroy this country, but neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now. "
whoa
whoa
Posted by: Keanu at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (Hpys7)
476
Speak of the Devil. A "New Rule" posted by a lefty on Facebook:
"Justice Blaine Wainwright
Yesterday at 12:20am · Los Angeles, CA, United States ·
New Rule:
If you're voting for Trump (or a third party candidate to "punish" the DNC) you have to meet with your Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Black, Muslim and Hispanic friends and explain why your need for spite is more important than their right to live free and happy lives.
You have to look them in the eyes and tell them why your anger at a 238 year old system, that didn't dramatically change in a few months, is worth more than their safety or security.
You need to meet with every Mother, Father, Sister, Brother and Parent who has lost a loved one to gun violence and tell them why a lack of Bernie supporters at the polls is enough reason to support the RNC's love affair with guns and their hatred of common sense gun reform.
You have to tell your female friends that you're furious about Benghazi and other vague incidents that are somehow Hillary's fault and that the de-funding of Planned Parenthood is worth enduring as long as she isn't in the White House.
You'll need to take time away from Pokemon Go and Netflix to talk with the youngest generation of Americans who will live with the legacy of non existent environmental protection that your vote promised them.
You'll be expected to go door to door and apologize to all the people who will lose their health insurance when President Trump dismantles Obamacare. Access to medical services may be important, but they'll need to understand you were expecting free college.
You'll be requested at several LGBTQ events, where we'll patiently listen to your reasons why you voted for a President whose party just stated they'd work to reverse marriage equality. I would do this one quickly however, before we get too comfortable being treated as human beings, worthy of equality.
Of course, you'll also need to offer your time checking genitals at bathrooms around the country, as your vote ensures the Right has the political power to continue punishing and demonizing transgender people who simply want to pee.
Your African American friends will most likely expect a solid reason as to why you supported a party that sees no problem with police brutality or the militarization of their local law enforcement. Black Lives Matter, but not nearly as much as your inflexibility.
I'd also prepare a few remarks for the police officers who are currently being targeted, because of a racially divided country fueled by hatred and fear mongering, all originating from the party your vote placed into power.
You'll also want to start growing your own food, because once President Trump sends his goons to deport "All dem illegals", you'll find a remarkably non existent workforce of Americans willing to pick the nation's food for pennies a day.
This would also be the best time to pick up a few stuffed animals or toys. It's the least you can give to the immigrant children whose families you've ripped apart out of political spite.
I imagine a few mosques would love to sit down with you and hear you pontificate on the ills of "Crooked Hillary" and all the crimes she's mysteriously never been convicted of and how those transparent crimes are worth chasing down, even it it means the Muslim community continues to get targeted and blamed for the actions of 0.0001% of their religion. (You won't need to do this for the white mass shooters, as it's clear they're acting alone and simply just "sad and depressed.")
Skype will be a great tool when you need to video chat with the Syrian refuges who have seen their homes and entire lives destroyed by both American and Russian carpet bombing. Language barriers aside, I imagine they'll understand that your frustration is a fair trade for their entire lives and continued homelessness.
In the end, you won't have enough time to meet with all these people and it's probably for the best. Once you start humanizing the people who will be damned by your tantrum, you risk seeing the bigger picture, which only assures your eventual return to reality. Once that starts to happen you'll be forced to accept that Bernie Sanders was ONLY able to get the DNC to adopt several of his political ideals, because of the tireless efforts of his supporters. Supporters like myself. Supporters like you. You'll soon realize that few people love Hillary, but they understand their support of her is necessary to ensure the country survives long enough to give Bernie's policies time to settle in and take off. Suddenly you'll be forced to admit that political revolutions don't happen in a year and that dramatic changes are going to take time, time that can't be allocated to a country torn apart by an egotistical madman with a penchant for spite and revenge. By the time this all happens, you'll find yourself looking around at this beautiful country, your friends, families and loved ones and you'll wonder why you ever even considered risking all of this, just because your hatred of a woman was more powerful than your love of country, freedom, humanity and decency. You'll question your friends who are cursing the man they just recently considered their savior and you'll have to look at yourself from the outside in. Then it hits you.
Perspective.
This is bigger than you, or me or Bernie Sanders. This isn't your typical Left vs. Right political nonsense. This is real, this is happening and you can join your fellow men and women in opposition or you can damn the country to trillions in debt, broken NATO agreements, racial hatred, homophobia, war, isolationism and proud ignorance.
What world will you leave for the next generation? What amount of anger is worth destroying everything and empowering the proud intolerance of the know nothing base?
We all get to choose how to shape the future and your choice will forever define the person you are, in the eyes of those around you.
Don't burn down the farm, because the crop wasn't what you had hoped. Enrich the land, ensuring an even better crop next season."
"Justice Blaine Wainwright
Yesterday at 12:20am · Los Angeles, CA, United States ·
New Rule:
If you're voting for Trump (or a third party candidate to "punish" the DNC) you have to meet with your Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Black, Muslim and Hispanic friends and explain why your need for spite is more important than their right to live free and happy lives.
You have to look them in the eyes and tell them why your anger at a 238 year old system, that didn't dramatically change in a few months, is worth more than their safety or security.
You need to meet with every Mother, Father, Sister, Brother and Parent who has lost a loved one to gun violence and tell them why a lack of Bernie supporters at the polls is enough reason to support the RNC's love affair with guns and their hatred of common sense gun reform.
You have to tell your female friends that you're furious about Benghazi and other vague incidents that are somehow Hillary's fault and that the de-funding of Planned Parenthood is worth enduring as long as she isn't in the White House.
You'll need to take time away from Pokemon Go and Netflix to talk with the youngest generation of Americans who will live with the legacy of non existent environmental protection that your vote promised them.
You'll be expected to go door to door and apologize to all the people who will lose their health insurance when President Trump dismantles Obamacare. Access to medical services may be important, but they'll need to understand you were expecting free college.
You'll be requested at several LGBTQ events, where we'll patiently listen to your reasons why you voted for a President whose party just stated they'd work to reverse marriage equality. I would do this one quickly however, before we get too comfortable being treated as human beings, worthy of equality.
Of course, you'll also need to offer your time checking genitals at bathrooms around the country, as your vote ensures the Right has the political power to continue punishing and demonizing transgender people who simply want to pee.
Your African American friends will most likely expect a solid reason as to why you supported a party that sees no problem with police brutality or the militarization of their local law enforcement. Black Lives Matter, but not nearly as much as your inflexibility.
I'd also prepare a few remarks for the police officers who are currently being targeted, because of a racially divided country fueled by hatred and fear mongering, all originating from the party your vote placed into power.
You'll also want to start growing your own food, because once President Trump sends his goons to deport "All dem illegals", you'll find a remarkably non existent workforce of Americans willing to pick the nation's food for pennies a day.
This would also be the best time to pick up a few stuffed animals or toys. It's the least you can give to the immigrant children whose families you've ripped apart out of political spite.
I imagine a few mosques would love to sit down with you and hear you pontificate on the ills of "Crooked Hillary" and all the crimes she's mysteriously never been convicted of and how those transparent crimes are worth chasing down, even it it means the Muslim community continues to get targeted and blamed for the actions of 0.0001% of their religion. (You won't need to do this for the white mass shooters, as it's clear they're acting alone and simply just "sad and depressed.")
Skype will be a great tool when you need to video chat with the Syrian refuges who have seen their homes and entire lives destroyed by both American and Russian carpet bombing. Language barriers aside, I imagine they'll understand that your frustration is a fair trade for their entire lives and continued homelessness.
In the end, you won't have enough time to meet with all these people and it's probably for the best. Once you start humanizing the people who will be damned by your tantrum, you risk seeing the bigger picture, which only assures your eventual return to reality. Once that starts to happen you'll be forced to accept that Bernie Sanders was ONLY able to get the DNC to adopt several of his political ideals, because of the tireless efforts of his supporters. Supporters like myself. Supporters like you. You'll soon realize that few people love Hillary, but they understand their support of her is necessary to ensure the country survives long enough to give Bernie's policies time to settle in and take off. Suddenly you'll be forced to admit that political revolutions don't happen in a year and that dramatic changes are going to take time, time that can't be allocated to a country torn apart by an egotistical madman with a penchant for spite and revenge. By the time this all happens, you'll find yourself looking around at this beautiful country, your friends, families and loved ones and you'll wonder why you ever even considered risking all of this, just because your hatred of a woman was more powerful than your love of country, freedom, humanity and decency. You'll question your friends who are cursing the man they just recently considered their savior and you'll have to look at yourself from the outside in. Then it hits you.
Perspective.
This is bigger than you, or me or Bernie Sanders. This isn't your typical Left vs. Right political nonsense. This is real, this is happening and you can join your fellow men and women in opposition or you can damn the country to trillions in debt, broken NATO agreements, racial hatred, homophobia, war, isolationism and proud ignorance.
What world will you leave for the next generation? What amount of anger is worth destroying everything and empowering the proud intolerance of the know nothing base?
We all get to choose how to shape the future and your choice will forever define the person you are, in the eyes of those around you.
Don't burn down the farm, because the crop wasn't what you had hoped. Enrich the land, ensuring an even better crop next season."
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (8Ao46)
477
I suspect you've seen me say before that I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
Well, truth be told, we don't expect but one note from a penny whistle.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mFkVC)
Well, truth be told, we don't expect but one note from a penny whistle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (GSdpU)
478
The problem in this case is those on the left who actually do walk the walk. Ed Beggley Jr. is one of those green lunatics who demands that his way of living be forced on everyone.
His way is quite onerous and draconian.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (0x/TW)
But he does get the tiniest smidgen of respect for it. At least compared to the other environazicrits.
His way is quite onerous and draconian.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at July 27, 2016 02:32 PM (0x/TW)
But he does get the tiniest smidgen of respect for it. At least compared to the other environazicrits.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (3ZoRf)
479
Putin want to weaken NATO and reclaim territory he feels is his - like the Baltics. Trump seems to want to let him.
Bullshit
Bullshit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (Ozsfq)
480
>>>A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
This nightmare is never ending.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
This nightmare is never ending.
Posted by: Haven Montana at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (CH3GY)
481
What happens to all the Mind babies?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (aVYsC)
We can take care of that, as long as you don't mind us selling their mind-organs.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 27, 2016 02:36 PM (aVYsC)
We can take care of that, as long as you don't mind us selling their mind-organs.
Posted by: Planned Mind-Parenthood at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (gYCKx)
482
Of course you can't point to one thing Trump has ever done that is "unconstitutional"
I can point to a number of recommendations he has made that were unconstitutional . Instead of asking for proof of Trump's flaws and trying to defend him as someone who will be a good President, concentrate on pushing him as Not Hillary. You just looking to get people who are the fence. Trying to convince them Trump is good will not work.
I can point to a number of recommendations he has made that were unconstitutional . Instead of asking for proof of Trump's flaws and trying to defend him as someone who will be a good President, concentrate on pushing him as Not Hillary. You just looking to get people who are the fence. Trying to convince them Trump is good will not work.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (FOeaV)
483
Hey, speaking of freedom.
Re: O'Reilly, you'd think that someone who regards the founders as heroic freedom fighters who were opposed to tyranny wouldn't be so blithe about well-fed and well-housed slavery.
Washington, Jefferson, etc. were pretty well-fed when they were subjects of the British Empire, but that wasn't enough freedom for them, was it? In fact I have seen that thought expressed ON THIS SITE: "they said, 'not good enough.'"
I'm interested to hear the thoughts of people who profess to love liberty: is being enslaved more okay if you're well-fed?
Waiting for your answers, thx
Re: O'Reilly, you'd think that someone who regards the founders as heroic freedom fighters who were opposed to tyranny wouldn't be so blithe about well-fed and well-housed slavery.
Washington, Jefferson, etc. were pretty well-fed when they were subjects of the British Empire, but that wasn't enough freedom for them, was it? In fact I have seen that thought expressed ON THIS SITE: "they said, 'not good enough.'"
I'm interested to hear the thoughts of people who profess to love liberty: is being enslaved more okay if you're well-fed?
Waiting for your answers, thx
Posted by: p at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (aY2zO)
484
The 80s called, they want their foreign policy back- Bronco Bama
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (M+Lyo)
485
F'n Autocorrect!
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (CH3GY)
486
Yes... he hates her so much that he invited her to his wedding(s) and met with her and Bill before he announced his run for the Presidency.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
******
In your spittle flecked attempt to smear Trump, did you even notice he was referencing Putin?
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
******
In your spittle flecked attempt to smear Trump, did you even notice he was referencing Putin?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (XlMnV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (evdj2)
488
OK, folks, quitting time.
Off to bed, take some antibiotics and hope this strep throat clears up soon.
See y'all tomorrow.
OK, folks, quitting time.
Off to bed, take some antibiotics and hope this strep throat clears up soon.
See y'all tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (X6fMO)
489
neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)
her Supreme Court picks, alone, will destroy the Country
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (Ozsfq)
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People keep saying it, but I do not agree. We have had liberal majorities before and have survived.
They will be bad. I will not like them. They will make rulings I do not like. So does today's court. But admittedly, we do at least win now, and maybe wouldn't win then.
But maybe that causes us to do something other than rely on the Court - which has proven unreliable.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)
her Supreme Court picks, alone, will destroy the Country
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (Ozsfq)
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People keep saying it, but I do not agree. We have had liberal majorities before and have survived.
They will be bad. I will not like them. They will make rulings I do not like. So does today's court. But admittedly, we do at least win now, and maybe wouldn't win then.
But maybe that causes us to do something other than rely on the Court - which has proven unreliable.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (gmeXX)
490
"I don't want to do this again! "
* * *
Could be a Russian individual, yes, but not the government.
-----------------------
That's more like it.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
* * *
Could be a Russian individual, yes, but not the government.
-----------------------
That's more like it.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (pC96u)
491
I think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mFkVC)
Bullshit
Pretty much proves all you come around here for is to shit one trump and nothing more
I think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mFkVC)
Bullshit
Pretty much proves all you come around here for is to shit one trump and nothing more
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: davidt at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (syn4Y)
493
KGB internet blog monitor: kto Winona??
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:42 PM (X/qvg)
494
She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
She will lose it
She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
She will lose it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (dyX6r)
495
I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
***
If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
***
If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: pep at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (3e8zv)
497
6 Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility.
Do we know this for a fact?
Are you extrapolating from 'they definitely hacked the DNC' to 'so they assuredly hacked HRC', or did I miss something?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
They hacked or didn't hack, its already over so hoping won't affect it. Knowing what happened is the best that can be hoped for now, and the release of them hacked would prove that, while non-release would prove nothing.
Plus if they are released and Hillary is still elected, there may not be anything to blackmail her with, which brings us back to did the Russians release all of the damaging ones or are they keeping the others for extortion.
The only sensible conclusion is they hacked her, there is serious stuff in there, and she should be kept out of the White House just to be on the safe side.
6 Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility.
Do we know this for a fact?
Are you extrapolating from 'they definitely hacked the DNC' to 'so they assuredly hacked HRC', or did I miss something?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
They hacked or didn't hack, its already over so hoping won't affect it. Knowing what happened is the best that can be hoped for now, and the release of them hacked would prove that, while non-release would prove nothing.
Plus if they are released and Hillary is still elected, there may not be anything to blackmail her with, which brings us back to did the Russians release all of the damaging ones or are they keeping the others for extortion.
The only sensible conclusion is they hacked her, there is serious stuff in there, and she should be kept out of the White House just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: Cankles would make a perfectly good POTUS... for me to poop on at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (H9MG5)
499
"486 Yes... he hates her so much that he invited her to his wedding(s) and met with her and Bill before he announced his run for the Presidency.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M) "
Re-read the paragraph on Human motivation. Then read it 10 or 20 more times until you understand it. Then apply it to yourself.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M) "
Re-read the paragraph on Human motivation. Then read it 10 or 20 more times until you understand it. Then apply it to yourself.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (eSQgj)
500
She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
I may even watch it, but I won't eat first.
I may even watch it, but I won't eat first.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (8ZskC)
501
402 355 Western Europe is doing a great job of driving our Eastern European allies into the Arms of Russia, the country and government that is working and fighting to keep Islamists out of their country and surrounding countries.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (UkK3
This is absolutely untrue. Eastern Europe has ABSOLUTELY no desire to go into "the Arms of Russia" (with the partial exception of Belarus.)
If you want to go somewhere where people still love the US, visit much of Eastern Europe.
But no, let's betray them to a despot. Because we've abandoned entitlement reform and all other spending cuts, and like good Democrats can only talk about cutting defense.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (mFkVC
The Eastern European Countries will thank you when Sharia Law is imposed and their women and children are raped and killed.
And no you are wrong sir. Maybe you should go back to your uniparty think tank on the merits of a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:24 PM (UkK3
This is absolutely untrue. Eastern Europe has ABSOLUTELY no desire to go into "the Arms of Russia" (with the partial exception of Belarus.)
If you want to go somewhere where people still love the US, visit much of Eastern Europe.
But no, let's betray them to a despot. Because we've abandoned entitlement reform and all other spending cuts, and like good Democrats can only talk about cutting defense.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:30 PM (mFkVC
The Eastern European Countries will thank you when Sharia Law is imposed and their women and children are raped and killed.
And no you are wrong sir. Maybe you should go back to your uniparty think tank on the merits of a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (UkK38)
502
Great post.
I just finished watching the Trump presser, and it was brilliant. He was on fire, yet no screaming.
He didn't let anyone get away with any of the bs games they play. He didn't allow lies to lay as stated by the democrats.
All of this crap about Russia. He answered it. The only thing I wish he had said was, "What was the RESET button with Hillary all about?" Better relations? Reciprocal respect?
We already know the emails are out there, and like Rush said on his show, he was goading the press and the idiot talking heads, including some conservatives, and they fell for it. The emails are already out there. Hillary DELETED them, saying they were Nothingburgers, so hey, what's the harm in giving them to us?
Does Hillary have something to hide in those emails? Not just Yoga and Wedding planning?
What was that RESET button for?
Who was the one that used non-secured equipment?
Who was the one that left herself fully open to hacks and attacks?
Who is lying?
Who should be in jail?
Great post.
I just finished watching the Trump presser, and it was brilliant. He was on fire, yet no screaming.
He didn't let anyone get away with any of the bs games they play. He didn't allow lies to lay as stated by the democrats.
All of this crap about Russia. He answered it. The only thing I wish he had said was, "What was the RESET button with Hillary all about?" Better relations? Reciprocal respect?
We already know the emails are out there, and like Rush said on his show, he was goading the press and the idiot talking heads, including some conservatives, and they fell for it. The emails are already out there. Hillary DELETED them, saying they were Nothingburgers, so hey, what's the harm in giving them to us?
Does Hillary have something to hide in those emails? Not just Yoga and Wedding planning?
What was that RESET button for?
Who was the one that used non-secured equipment?
Who was the one that left herself fully open to hacks and attacks?
Who is lying?
Who should be in jail?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (qCMvj)
503
I'm interested to hear the thoughts of people who profess to love liberty: is being enslaved more okay if you're well-fed?
If you are a child or otherwise incompetent.
If you are a child or otherwise incompetent.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (evdj2)
504
In your spittle flecked attempt to smear Trump, did you even notice he was referencing Putin?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
Rrrrrr!!!
TRUMP ARGLE BARGLE!!!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
Rrrrrr!!!
TRUMP ARGLE BARGLE!!!
Posted by: Principled Conservative what has Principles at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (UPYhp)
505
So according to that LA Times poll - Hillary! appears to be receiving a Hindenburg level bounce from the Democratic Convention.
And no Yuge Manatee jokes from any of you either.
And no Yuge Manatee jokes from any of you either.
Posted by: An Observation at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (HkRPJ)
506
Prager said today Trump has finally gotten leftists to say America is the greatest country, Even Eric Holder said it. Up until the Trump era (2016) leftists would tell you this is the most racist, bigoted country on earth.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (bksJQ)
507
"After that, after you listen. "
* * *
I'm interested to hear the thoughts of people who profess to love liberty: is being enslaved more okay if you're well-fed?
Waiting for your answers, thx
Posted by: p at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (aY2zO)
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Of course not, duh.
Were you under the impression that people here admire Bill O'Reilly, btw?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes to Drooper.
* * *
I'm interested to hear the thoughts of people who profess to love liberty: is being enslaved more okay if you're well-fed?
Waiting for your answers, thx
Posted by: p at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (aY2zO)
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Of course not, duh.
Were you under the impression that people here admire Bill O'Reilly, btw?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes to Drooper.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (pC96u)
508
So, no, it's not the Russian government. But a more volatile character out there who has no loyalty to anyone but the average joe.
Posted by: K-E at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (b+5gx)
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My theory is that it is someone or someones in the American intelligence community.
*waves to NSA Bob*
Posted by: K-E at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (b+5gx)
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My theory is that it is someone or someones in the American intelligence community.
*waves to NSA Bob*
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (7lVbc)
509
hear you pontificate on the ills of "Crooked Hillary" and all the crimes she's mysteriously never been convicted of
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM
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Good one, I just bolded some of the text, as I kept hearing in my head the recruiting office scene from Meatballs. "Convicted? No."
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM
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Good one, I just bolded some of the text, as I kept hearing in my head the recruiting office scene from Meatballs. "Convicted? No."
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (7ZVPa)
510
Ace, it seems that you've basically adopted the left's viewpoint when it comes to public morality. I.e.,
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uAvJJ)
511
I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
***
If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
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No I don't, and nor would I want to. I'm fairly certain most of the country would not. That being said, it may invite Russia to take actions they may not have otherwise taken. Still I believe that in a republic you have to be able to debate things - even if they could have a negative effect.
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
***
If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
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No I don't, and nor would I want to. I'm fairly certain most of the country would not. That being said, it may invite Russia to take actions they may not have otherwise taken. Still I believe that in a republic you have to be able to debate things - even if they could have a negative effect.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (gmeXX)
512
Don't burn down the farm, because the crop wasn't what you had hoped. Enrich the land, ensuring an even better crop next season."
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (8Ao46)
I'm awfully interested in what this comment said. Has anyone read it?
Please give us a summary.
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (8Ao46)
I'm awfully interested in what this comment said. Has anyone read it?
Please give us a summary.
Posted by: jwest at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (Zs4uk)
513
Local news story. A couple of centuries ago, a frontiersman hid his rifle (for some reason I no longer remember) at a particular location. When a town later grew at that location, they named it Rifle CO in remembrance of the hidden rifle. Now Faceblech, pursuant to its anti-gun policy, is refusing posts mentioning [redacted] CO.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (Nwg0u)
Jeeze. Dumb, we much? Speaking of "rifles", that story in the sidebar about the "anti-drone rifle". Does the military actually call it that, or is that an MSM fuckup? The military is usually uber-precise about weapon designations, and that weapon cannot be a rifle, since it is not even a firearm. You could point it at a baby and fire off a "round" and the baby would be fine as frogs' hair. The thing is is either an EMP gun, or an RF ray gun, but it's in no way a rifle.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:10 PM (Nwg0u)
Jeeze. Dumb, we much? Speaking of "rifles", that story in the sidebar about the "anti-drone rifle". Does the military actually call it that, or is that an MSM fuckup? The military is usually uber-precise about weapon designations, and that weapon cannot be a rifle, since it is not even a firearm. You could point it at a baby and fire off a "round" and the baby would be fine as frogs' hair. The thing is is either an EMP gun, or an RF ray gun, but it's in no way a rifle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (GSdpU)
514
Hopefully, "Trumpism" would lead to a cultural renaissance, a new, gilded Orange Age, where kids emulated his bloviating style, leadership consultants incorporated his burn-all-bridges management techniques, overlong neckties and unmanaged tresses came into fashion ("Sun-In stock jumped today!"), and self-effacing modesty became a tell for a subversive, untrustworthy personality type.
Oh, and gold. Things--objets d'art, items great and small--began to appear in gold. Gold paint, gold leaf, whatever...
Oh, and gold. Things--objets d'art, items great and small--began to appear in gold. Gold paint, gold leaf, whatever...
Posted by: General Zod at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (Bdeb0)
515
So, if the world had been saddled w the ordained GOPe, Jeb, would we be hearing about how the emails were bc his brother "looked into Putin's soul"? Who wants to bet Putin is doing this to embarrass Obama, as much as Hillary?
Posted by: ever at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (QZdJj)
516
Good one, I just bolded some of the text, as I kept hearing in my head the recruiting office scene from Meatballs. "Convicted? No."
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (7ZVPa)
I think that was from "Stripes"
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:45 PM (7ZVPa)
I think that was from "Stripes"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (Ozsfq)
517
think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mFkVC)
For you maybe.
think you confused Putin and Trump. Which is easy enough.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mFkVC)
For you maybe.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (lKyWE)
518
What benefit would Putin gain from disseminating the DNC emails? It seems he would have more leverage over her and the DNC if he could manipulate them based on their hope and fear of their dirty laundry being divulged.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (i0ykY)
519
Russians a distraction. Yesterday Assange intimated it could just as well have been a leaker and that many people will have "egg on their face" for pushing the Russia meme.
For me, THE MOST IMPORTANT information is the collusion, in black and white, for all to see, between the media and the democrats.
This is the point I want the campaign to pound relentlessly because this collusion is pushing our country to the brink.
Can't the national reviewers, Glenn beck, mark levin, and assorted other constitutionalists go on one of those "conservative cruises" until November 8th?
For me, THE MOST IMPORTANT information is the collusion, in black and white, for all to see, between the media and the democrats.
This is the point I want the campaign to pound relentlessly because this collusion is pushing our country to the brink.
Can't the national reviewers, Glenn beck, mark levin, and assorted other constitutionalists go on one of those "conservative cruises" until November 8th?
Posted by: Flowerbelle at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (KOxQz)
520
Blessed ace brings Teh Awesome with a Free Speech Poem of Beowulfian Proportions ©
And, coins the Ace Corollary to Chesterton's Fence Parable.
Oh, who the Hell am I kidding?
TL
R.
Any written material this long should be required to have a picture of Cake Girl appended.
And, coins the Ace Corollary to Chesterton's Fence Parable.
Oh, who the Hell am I kidding?
TL
R.
Any written material this long should be required to have a picture of Cake Girl appended.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (4aEqz)
521
People keep saying it, but I do not agree. We have had liberal majorities before and have survived.
***
Hillary and her allies want to jail Christians, people who disagree with CAGW, and bring in tens of millions of left wing/Islamist voters.
If she wins in 2016 there will be no further possibility of change through federal electoral means.
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Hillary and her allies want to jail Christians, people who disagree with CAGW, and bring in tens of millions of left wing/Islamist voters.
If she wins in 2016 there will be no further possibility of change through federal electoral means.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (X7E8f)
522
Speaking of asking for Russian intel, IIRC, the first aerial pictures of the (in)famous Area 51 came from Russian satellite images that were released. The UFO nuts were going crazy, "Yay, Russia!".
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (FOeaV)
524
Bullshit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (Ozsfq)
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NGU, you refuse to draw any conclusions from the things Trump says. You pretend it is impossible to draw any impression on how he will govern.
You are literally voting for him as a blank slate, as a void labelled "Not-Clinton."
Fine. But stop pretending actually listening to a presidential candidate to discern his beliefs is folly.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (Ozsfq)
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NGU, you refuse to draw any conclusions from the things Trump says. You pretend it is impossible to draw any impression on how he will govern.
You are literally voting for him as a blank slate, as a void labelled "Not-Clinton."
Fine. But stop pretending actually listening to a presidential candidate to discern his beliefs is folly.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (mFkVC)
525
500 She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
**
They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
**
They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (nhHaf)
526
(Waves hi to Chemjeff )
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (bksJQ)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (YEelc)
528
Who would play Trump in a mock debate? And why?
The left has precious few Alphas, if any.
They'll be hard pressed to find one to play him, especially one who is Always Closing. A man with a winning record.
They'll probably pick Alan Grayson, because he's a loudmouthed asshole.
But the similarities end there.
The left has precious few Alphas, if any.
They'll be hard pressed to find one to play him, especially one who is Always Closing. A man with a winning record.
They'll probably pick Alan Grayson, because he's a loudmouthed asshole.
But the similarities end there.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (kKHcp)
529
20 Long post. I do like the Chesterton story - I've long liked it and it should appeal to conservatives.
With respect to this issue, as a NeverTrumper (don't like the term, but using it as a shorthand - my dislike of Trump is nothing new), I do agree that the outrage here by the press is misplaced. And Trump did get the Hillary campaign to admit this was a national security issue. So on that I say Bravo.
Posted by: SH
Bravo indeed, very good point.
With respect to this issue, as a NeverTrumper (don't like the term, but using it as a shorthand - my dislike of Trump is nothing new), I do agree that the outrage here by the press is misplaced. And Trump did get the Hillary campaign to admit this was a national security issue. So on that I say Bravo.
Posted by: SH
Bravo indeed, very good point.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (kfcYC)
530
My children lived under well fed benevolent tyranny for the first decade and a half of their lives. They still chaffed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (evdj2)
531
Hillary and her surrogates are and will continue to lose their shit. Tonight ofor all nights
How is this a bad thing
Hillary and her surrogates are and will continue to lose their shit. Tonight ofor all nights
How is this a bad thing
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (dyX6r)
532
I'll vote for the one who listens to Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller instead of Mrs. Weiner.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (GzDYP)
533
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
You mean Jackie Coakley, the fake rape victim? *The* Jackie Coakley, whose fake rape story was published by Rolling Stone and is now getting its ass sued off because of? That Jackie?
Coakley. Her last name is Coakley. She is no longer eligible to be known as simply Jackie. Because she is not a victim, she is a liar whose actions were criminal.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
You mean Jackie Coakley, the fake rape victim? *The* Jackie Coakley, whose fake rape story was published by Rolling Stone and is now getting its ass sued off because of? That Jackie?
Coakley. Her last name is Coakley. She is no longer eligible to be known as simply Jackie. Because she is not a victim, she is a liar whose actions were criminal.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (oqI3S)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (X/qvg)
Posted by: Hillary at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (ODxAs)
536
The Force is strong with this Jamie person.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (8ZskC)
537
You are literally voting for him as a blank slate, as a void labelled "Not-Clinton."
A slate marked "Not-Clinton" is not actually blank, as it were.
A slate marked "Not-Clinton" is not actually blank, as it were.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:48 PM (evdj2)
538
"Quick, without looking it up, what is the term for a female Marquess (the wife of a Marquess) in the Brit peerage?"
Marchioness, yes?
Marchioness, yes?
Posted by: torquewrench at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (noWW6)
539
Hi Skip
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (uAvJJ)
540
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (mFkVC)
I listen to everything he and other says. What I don't do is take his comments out of context, I listen to his corrections, and since he is new at this I take what he says with a grain pf salt and I see how he actually acted in what ever sphere he was in.
I listen to everything he and other says. What I don't do is take his comments out of context, I listen to his corrections, and since he is new at this I take what he says with a grain pf salt and I see how he actually acted in what ever sphere he was in.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (Ozsfq)
541
Trump also made it clear that no one knows who hacked them.
Russia, China, or someone in bed with them, he said.
He's right.
For all we know it's Israel or the CIA, or some disgruntled government employee.
She left it open for a child hacker to hack.
Trump also made it clear that no one knows who hacked them.
Russia, China, or someone in bed with them, he said.
He's right.
For all we know it's Israel or the CIA, or some disgruntled government employee.
She left it open for a child hacker to hack.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (qCMvj)
542
If I were Assange OR Russia or Russia working with Assange, I'd keep the very most damaging emails and then watch the polls in October. I'd throw out just enough to have her defeated/indicted if that was my goal. I'd keep the most disasterous ones in my back pocket as security. If she looked to lose, I'd throw it out at the last minute to ensure an indictment. If she looked like she was going to win, I'd keep it for blackmail.
These are money in the bank, I'd spend exactly as many as I needed to.
Of course, their goal might be different than mine. They might like to have a pawn in the White House, but they aren't acting that way.
These are money in the bank, I'd spend exactly as many as I needed to.
Of course, their goal might be different than mine. They might like to have a pawn in the White House, but they aren't acting that way.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (eSQgj)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (lKyWE)
544
This is the stuff you can't really get anywhere else. Smart people, spitballing, without blinders on.. .
"1. Did Russia hack the emails?"
(Why yes they did, and so did the Chinese and just about every government in the world with internet access.
"2. Will they keep the emails to hold over Hillary as blackmail material -- keeping their own pet president, compromised or controlled -- or will they release them?" Ideally - but this information isn't a monopoly so power is weakened.
In light of my answer to number one, everyone has them, the information is not that scarce, and becomes increasing less valuable over time. Thus she must be compromised as much as possible sooner while your leverage is high. Before the election, however your ability to make her pay off on her promises falls as other actors threaten the same exposure.
"Or maybe the DNC leak is a warning shot: This is just a taste of what we could release, if we wanted."
Yes. A warning shot and an attempt to maximize leverage now. In the end, it will all be released because after she is elected, when every other country in the world is pressing claims as well they will all have less leverage and probably no way to force pay off. So in the end why not enjoy the chaos that ensues and further weakens America?
So yes. It will all come out - if she is elected. Yes it is a warning. It will not all come out if she is not elected, because some of the 'underlings' implicated in the emails may, down the road be subject to blackmail when they are in turn vying for power in decades to come.
The donks are compromised. Not that it matters to the United States of Stupid people.
And:
"3. Wouldn't it be delicious if Russia (or China, or Julian Assange) released the emails and proved that Hillary was a liar and Comey a stooge."
Yes. At some point, the chief value of this information is to further degrade and demoralize US populace and drive a wedge between people/government etc.
This is a really terribly interesting time to be alive. And its only going to get more interesting.
I know. I know. I am a broken record.
"1. Did Russia hack the emails?"
(Why yes they did, and so did the Chinese and just about every government in the world with internet access.
"2. Will they keep the emails to hold over Hillary as blackmail material -- keeping their own pet president, compromised or controlled -- or will they release them?" Ideally - but this information isn't a monopoly so power is weakened.
In light of my answer to number one, everyone has them, the information is not that scarce, and becomes increasing less valuable over time. Thus she must be compromised as much as possible sooner while your leverage is high. Before the election, however your ability to make her pay off on her promises falls as other actors threaten the same exposure.
"Or maybe the DNC leak is a warning shot: This is just a taste of what we could release, if we wanted."
Yes. A warning shot and an attempt to maximize leverage now. In the end, it will all be released because after she is elected, when every other country in the world is pressing claims as well they will all have less leverage and probably no way to force pay off. So in the end why not enjoy the chaos that ensues and further weakens America?
So yes. It will all come out - if she is elected. Yes it is a warning. It will not all come out if she is not elected, because some of the 'underlings' implicated in the emails may, down the road be subject to blackmail when they are in turn vying for power in decades to come.
The donks are compromised. Not that it matters to the United States of Stupid people.
And:
"3. Wouldn't it be delicious if Russia (or China, or Julian Assange) released the emails and proved that Hillary was a liar and Comey a stooge."
Yes. At some point, the chief value of this information is to further degrade and demoralize US populace and drive a wedge between people/government etc.
This is a really terribly interesting time to be alive. And its only going to get more interesting.
I know. I know. I am a broken record.
Posted by: simplemind at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (JTwsP)
545
If she wins in 2016 there will be no further possibility of change through federal electoral means.
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There really isn't a need to debate this. We are drawing different conclusions because we start with different premises. I do not agree with you that Hillary will destroy this country. I'm not going to convince you I'm right, just as you aren't going to convince me I'm right.
If she does win - or if Trump wins and puts liberals on the Court - well we better find a way to push back on an imperial court.
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There really isn't a need to debate this. We are drawing different conclusions because we start with different premises. I do not agree with you that Hillary will destroy this country. I'm not going to convince you I'm right, just as you aren't going to convince me I'm right.
If she does win - or if Trump wins and puts liberals on the Court - well we better find a way to push back on an imperial court.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (gmeXX)
546
The Eastern European Countries will thank you when Sharia Law is imposed and their women and children are raped and killed.
And no you are wrong sir. Maybe you should go back to your uniparty think tank on the merits of a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (UkK3
Yeah, all those countries really wish they were part of Mother Russia. Big Strong Putin will protect them.
Go back to RT.
And no you are wrong sir. Maybe you should go back to your uniparty think tank on the merits of a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:44 PM (UkK3
Yeah, all those countries really wish they were part of Mother Russia. Big Strong Putin will protect them.
Go back to RT.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:49 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (7ZVPa)
548
"Exactly how do you blackmail Hillary Clinton as president? There is
nothing in her e-mails that is any worse than what is out there already."
How in the world do you know that?
nothing in her e-mails that is any worse than what is out there already."
How in the world do you know that?
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (eSQgj)
549
OK, you thriller authors out there, I have a plot for you (inspired by a discussion on Beck). Neither Trump or Hillzebub wins 270 electoral votes so the election is thrown into the House. Despite Republican control of the House, Hillz wins because that's the way the #NeverTrumpers roll. Hillarity ensues!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (Nwg0u)
550
Jamie is right!
Posted by: Larry at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (QM5S2)
552
I do give Trump credit for destroying every online Clinton shill today. They're being tied in knots in comments sections everywhere having to contradict all the false narratives they've created the past year to dismiss the email scandal. Now they contained national secrets after all. And Trump is in bed with the enemy Russians, even though the Clinton Foundation took over a hundred million dollars from them. What a great day to be watching this.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (UBzPO)
553
I am waiting for Mitt to give a speech castigating Trump for interrupting Hillary's convention.
That's not who we are, old chap.
That's not who we are, old chap.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (7lVbc)
554
1. This is all due to Hillary's actions. If she followed the rules, and did the LEGAL thing, this would not be happening.
2. Read an interview with Snowden at ZeroHedge. He said that the NSA can easily say who did the hack.. Easily. Yet the NSA is not saying anything. Why not? Did one of our friends do the hack?
3. Why are we so quick to immediately blame the Russians? Are we using this to go into a war with them to help the economy? I know that sounds insane, but we have been saber rattling for a while. Is this an excuse?
2. Read an interview with Snowden at ZeroHedge. He said that the NSA can easily say who did the hack.. Easily. Yet the NSA is not saying anything. Why not? Did one of our friends do the hack?
3. Why are we so quick to immediately blame the Russians? Are we using this to go into a war with them to help the economy? I know that sounds insane, but we have been saber rattling for a while. Is this an excuse?
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (tvyXw)
555
511 I think Trump's suggestion that we wouldn't defend NATO allies and that
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
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If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
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No I don't, and nor would I want to. I'm fairly certain most of the country would not. That being said, it may invite Russia to take actions they may not have otherwise taken. Still I believe that in a republic you have to be able to debate things - even if they could have a negative effect.
Posted by: SH
Trump didn't say he wouldn't defend just that he may not, depending on whether said country met its obligations. Saying we'd defend even deadbeats just means there's no partners in NATO just and deadbeats and the suckers who pay the bill.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
we might leave NATO altogether increases the likelihood of an attack on
NATO nations (the Baltics) should he become President
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If Putin invaded Estonian now, do you believe that Obama and Merkel would go to war?
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No I don't, and nor would I want to. I'm fairly certain most of the country would not. That being said, it may invite Russia to take actions they may not have otherwise taken. Still I believe that in a republic you have to be able to debate things - even if they could have a negative effect.
Posted by: SH
Trump didn't say he wouldn't defend just that he may not, depending on whether said country met its obligations. Saying we'd defend even deadbeats just means there's no partners in NATO just and deadbeats and the suckers who pay the bill.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
556
In contrast, the conservative view on public morality *used* to be that there is such a thing as objective right and wrong, that it is objectively wrong to, say, abuse drugs and alcohol to the extent that it damages your life and the lives of those around you, and that while all individuals inevitably fall short of meeting high standards, it is nevertheless a standard worth trying to attain because it is the right standard.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (uAvJJ)
557
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
She will lose it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (dyX6r)
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I've noticed that her heavily practiced style is now to nod understandingly and sympathetically while being asked, for instance, "How is it possible that the Russians don't have material that Americans never will thanks to your deleting records after you were subpoenaed?"
Nod, nod, patient smile, nod, mm-hmm.
Then a pleasant dismissal and a quick change of subject to "our REAL challenges."
We'll see how well it serves and how long it holds.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
She will lose it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:43 PM (dyX6r)
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I've noticed that her heavily practiced style is now to nod understandingly and sympathetically while being asked, for instance, "How is it possible that the Russians don't have material that Americans never will thanks to your deleting records after you were subpoenaed?"
Nod, nod, patient smile, nod, mm-hmm.
Then a pleasant dismissal and a quick change of subject to "our REAL challenges."
We'll see how well it serves and how long it holds.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (pC96u)
558
>>>She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
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They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (nhHaf)<<<
Over/under on the number of bathroom breaks? I'd set it at 5, considering she's gonna need to be more heavily soused than normal to get through a smooth, human-like performance.
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They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:47 PM (nhHaf)<<<
Over/under on the number of bathroom breaks? I'd set it at 5, considering she's gonna need to be more heavily soused than normal to get through a smooth, human-like performance.
Posted by: Las Vegas book maker at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (H9MG5)
559
550 Jamie is right!
Posted by: Larry at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (8ZskC)
That's how I saw it, except for that one thing.
Posted by: Larry at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (8ZskC)
That's how I saw it, except for that one thing.
Posted by: jwest at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (Zs4uk)
560
510 Ace, it seems that you've basically adopted the left's viewpoint when it comes to public morality. I.e.,
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uAvJJ)
++++
I thought you were a libertarian. But you want the political class to be public scolds? Perhaps you're libertarian when it comes to borders, but a Puritan when it comes to morality...
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uAvJJ)
++++
I thought you were a libertarian. But you want the political class to be public scolds? Perhaps you're libertarian when it comes to borders, but a Puritan when it comes to morality...
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (R+30W)
561
Quick, without looking it up, what is the term for a female Marquess (the wife of a Marquess) in the Brit peerage?
Marchioness, duh. Romance novels are very educational.
Quick, without looking it up, what is the term for a female Marquess (the wife of a Marquess) in the Brit peerage?
Marchioness, duh. Romance novels are very educational.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (eSQgj)
562
Yeah, it was Stripes. Should be the theme for the Clintons.
"Convicted? No."
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I was willing to learn.
*Blinks "kill me now" in morse code*
"Convicted? No."
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I was willing to learn.
*Blinks "kill me now" in morse code*
Posted by: Huma at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (UPYhp)
563
3) I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
If the Russians want to discredit their chief rival, and every institution in it, what better way than to drop multiple turds in the punchbowl?
Their audience is us. And the rest of the world. Especially the parts of the world that we want to think of us as being competent.
In a way, what they are doing is no different from Delta House taking revenge by wrecking a parade.
Can the US defend you? They can't run an e-mail system.
Are they credible and smart? They can't run their own conventions, and their media are pathetic.
If the Russians want to discredit their chief rival, and every institution in it, what better way than to drop multiple turds in the punchbowl?
Their audience is us. And the rest of the world. Especially the parts of the world that we want to think of us as being competent.
In a way, what they are doing is no different from Delta House taking revenge by wrecking a parade.
Can the US defend you? They can't run an e-mail system.
Are they credible and smart? They can't run their own conventions, and their media are pathetic.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (326rv)
564
Vote for Hillary! She's never been convicted!
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (7ZVPa)
565
There likely are numerous intelligence agencies, some hostile to Russia, with Hillary's hacked emails. Therefore, Russia's best use of them is to destroy her incompetent, warmongering old ass with aplomb.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (ExAju)
566
"I don't want to do this again! "
* * *
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (uAvJJ)
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DOOD! Nice to see you!
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes to Drooper.
* * *
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (uAvJJ)
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DOOD! Nice to see you!
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes to Drooper.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (pC96u)
567
That being said, it may invite Russia to take actions they may not have otherwise taken.
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...or get the Europeans to start paying for their own defense?
I think there is a pretty strong argument to be made that protecting Europe with no help outside of maybe the UK is not a good financial investment.
I mean consider for a moment if the US ended up at war with China. I expect that Japan, South Korea, Australia, and the Philippines would be fighting with us since they are actual allies. Would there be any combat troops/ships/planes from continental Europe?
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...or get the Europeans to start paying for their own defense?
I think there is a pretty strong argument to be made that protecting Europe with no help outside of maybe the UK is not a good financial investment.
I mean consider for a moment if the US ended up at war with China. I expect that Japan, South Korea, Australia, and the Philippines would be fighting with us since they are actual allies. Would there be any combat troops/ships/planes from continental Europe?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (X7E8f)
568
452 Oh this should be fun by which I mean super batshit.
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Or lock him in a room and call him Haven.
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Or lock him in a room and call him Haven.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2016 02:53 PM (z/Ubi)
569
Vote for Hillary! She's never been convicted!
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (7ZVPa)
Negligent, Not Evil!
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (7ZVPa)
Negligent, Not Evil!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2016 02:53 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (evdj2)
571
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Just wow... that is some all star worthy crazy.
http://bit.ly/2an3OsC
Dear. God.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Just wow... that is some all star worthy crazy.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (X/qvg)
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (oqI3S)
574
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (GSdpU)
It's usually just called a "gun" (in quotes) when briefed. I highly doubt it'll ever be a Program of Record due to its limitations, incidentally.
It's usually just called a "gun" (in quotes) when briefed. I highly doubt it'll ever be a Program of Record due to its limitations, incidentally.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (uiwCw)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (evdj2)
576
500 She will be paranoid and enraged tonight, and she has to give the speech of her life, and then interviews
**
They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
May her contacts fall out and reveal eyes that look like the Killer Toon from "who Framed Roger Rabbit".
**
They're going to have a giant cough drop bolted to the lectern like a salt block for deer.
May her contacts fall out and reveal eyes that look like the Killer Toon from "who Framed Roger Rabbit".
Posted by: An Observation at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (HkRPJ)
577
Trump didn't say he wouldn't defend just that he may not, depending on whether said country met its obligations. Saying we'd defend even deadbeats just means there's no partners in NATO just and deadbeats and the suckers who pay the bill.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
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Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
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Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC)
578
>> Marchioness, yes?
Bingo. It's funny "Marquess" is one of the few words in English were the '-ess" ending is masculine.
And, during the finale of Downtown Abbey, the had Lady Edith marry a marquess and become a marchioness, thus outranking all of them. By their silly rules, they all would have to bow and curtsy to Edith. Which I loved.
In French, the feminine is "marquise".
In the others, it's Margrave and Landgrav and other similiar forms.
Bingo. It's funny "Marquess" is one of the few words in English were the '-ess" ending is masculine.
And, during the finale of Downtown Abbey, the had Lady Edith marry a marquess and become a marchioness, thus outranking all of them. By their silly rules, they all would have to bow and curtsy to Edith. Which I loved.
In French, the feminine is "marquise".
In the others, it's Margrave and Landgrav and other similiar forms.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (DW+jj)
579
>>I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm
bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him
by Jackie
Ever see the French movie, "He Loves Me... He Loves Me Not"?
*shivers recalling the ending*
bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him
by Jackie
Ever see the French movie, "He Loves Me... He Loves Me Not"?
*shivers recalling the ending*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
580
Hillary! appears to be receiving a Hindenburg level bounce from the Democratic Convention.
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Oh, the Huma-manity!
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Oh, the Huma-manity!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (Nwg0u)
581
Uniparty logic.
It was righteous and moral and good to be allies with Stalin against the global threat of the Nazis.
It is a terrible and immoral and treasonous to be allies with Putin against the global threat of Islam. So instead we should remain on the side of islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood to not only destroy Western Civilization but destroy Russia.
Putin and Russia are not even close to the evil The Stalinist USSR.
It was righteous and moral and good to be allies with Stalin against the global threat of the Nazis.
It is a terrible and immoral and treasonous to be allies with Putin against the global threat of Islam. So instead we should remain on the side of islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood to not only destroy Western Civilization but destroy Russia.
Putin and Russia are not even close to the evil The Stalinist USSR.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (UkK38)
582
Dear. God.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm
bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him
by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
That is some boiling bunnies level of stalkering.
I'm just glancing through and this is tripping every possible alarm
bell. Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him
by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
That is some boiling bunnies level of stalkering.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (3JA/M)
583
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Whoa. I just looked at that. The color of the sky in her world was a boiled-bunny shade of paisley.
The guy she married (IIRC she did) ought to look up the kitchen knives before going to bed.
Whoa. I just looked at that. The color of the sky in her world was a boiled-bunny shade of paisley.
The guy she married (IIRC she did) ought to look up the kitchen knives before going to bed.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (hLRSq)
584
>>>What benefit would Putin gain from disseminating the DNC emails?
Any chance the Clintons backstabbed Putin in a back room deal?
Any chance the Clintons backstabbed Putin in a back room deal?
Posted by: davidt at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (syn4Y)
585
I thought you were a libertarian. But you want the political class to be public scolds? Perhaps you're libertarian when it comes to borders, but a Puritan when it comes to morality...
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As somewhat of a libertarian, there are many things I think should not be enforced by the government, but society should enforce through shaming and scolding.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
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As somewhat of a libertarian, there are many things I think should not be enforced by the government, but society should enforce through shaming and scolding.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (dyX6r)
587
Here's a fun thought experiment:
Russia has hacked Hillary's! email and has blackmail material
Russia has similar but worse blackmail material on Trump
Both major party candidates are compromised and at risk of being controlled by a foreign power opposed to US interests. Which candidate is most likely to be removed from office via impeachment or forced resignation?
Russia has hacked Hillary's! email and has blackmail material
Russia has similar but worse blackmail material on Trump
Both major party candidates are compromised and at risk of being controlled by a foreign power opposed to US interests. Which candidate is most likely to be removed from office via impeachment or forced resignation?
Posted by: Joe at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (QFnhZ)
588
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC)
He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC)
He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
589
I thought you were a libertarian. But you want the political class to be public scolds? Perhaps you're libertarian when it comes to borders, but a Puritan when it comes to morality...
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (R+30W)
*******
Now you went and did it. He's going to leave straw everywhere.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (R+30W)
*******
Now you went and did it. He's going to leave straw everywhere.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (XlMnV)
590
Ryan is damn lucky that this did not end with violence against him by Jackie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
I admire that boy for having an innate "don't boink crazy" defense mechanism. He must have been raised right.
Or maybe Jackie just has epic BO.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
I admire that boy for having an innate "don't boink crazy" defense mechanism. He must have been raised right.
Or maybe Jackie just has epic BO.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (7lVbc)
591
I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
What good is it to have that power over her if you know a dozen other countries have the same power over her?
I see no advantage for the Russians to release the emails wither before, OR after - at least not to the PUBLIC! BEFORE might make her lose, so they wouldn't have power over the POTUS. AFTER, would give away their advantage.
What good is it to have that power over her if you know a dozen other countries have the same power over her?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (lKyWE)
592
572 >>>Zombie Bobcat Goldthwait.
Is he dead?
**
He might as well be...
Unless J.J. Abrams has a wild hair to reboot Police Academy: Now With Improved Lens Flare.
Is he dead?
**
He might as well be...
Unless J.J. Abrams has a wild hair to reboot Police Academy: Now With Improved Lens Flare.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (nhHaf)
593
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
Again defending Trump for the dumb contradictory shit he says will not convince the fence sitters. You just had a week of Trump and his supporters harping on the issue of honoring commitments of a contract. Don't try to spin his NATO comments as valid. At least not during the same week.
Again defending Trump for the dumb contradictory shit he says will not convince the fence sitters. You just had a week of Trump and his supporters harping on the issue of honoring commitments of a contract. Don't try to spin his NATO comments as valid. At least not during the same week.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (FOeaV)
594
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 02:41 PM (8Ao46)
Prolly a big time saver to just punch that douchebag in the mouth instead of trying to jump through all those stupid hoops.
Prolly a big time saver to just punch that douchebag in the mouth instead of trying to jump through all those stupid hoops.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (X+nFp)
595
He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
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Go on. Show your source.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
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Go on. Show your source.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
596
I'd still hit it. - Toby Sunshine
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (evdj2)
Rule to live by 1) Don't dip your wick in crazy.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (evdj2)
Rule to live by 1) Don't dip your wick in crazy.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (3JA/M)
597
Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Posted by: person
Cause it's a signal to putin and him only. Member nations not giving a shit about their own defense when they live on the FRICKING continent doesn't make it useless. Trumps' comments do.
What utter bullshit.
Posted by: person
Cause it's a signal to putin and him only. Member nations not giving a shit about their own defense when they live on the FRICKING continent doesn't make it useless. Trumps' comments do.
What utter bullshit.
Posted by: entity at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (326rv)
598
>>>What benefit would Putin gain from disseminating the DNC emails?
Any chance the Clintons backstabbed Putin in a back room deal?
Posted by: davidt at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (syn4Y)
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Maybe the uranium rights payments are getting onerous.
Any chance the Clintons backstabbed Putin in a back room deal?
Posted by: davidt at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (syn4Y)
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Maybe the uranium rights payments are getting onerous.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (7lVbc)
599
Go on. Show your source.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
So you want me to prove a negative ha?
Nice try again
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
So you want me to prove a negative ha?
Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (Ozsfq)
600
"And yet some of us still don't like him. I'm not virtue signalling. I don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't believe in the same things he does. Therefore I feel no need to vote for him. I'm not trying to change your vote, and I'm not saying that Hillary is better. I don't think Trump will destroy this country, but neither do I believe Hillary will. Perhaps if I felt she would, then I would support Trump. But I think the country will survive either. Maybe a little worse for wear, maybe in better shape than we are in right now. Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)"
Yawn. If you can't find the testicular fortitude or sense to grasp who the far left progressives are and have been for a century, you're useless in the fight against them. It's abundantly clear that you need to re-read the human motivation paragraph here until you understand it, I can't understand it for you. No one cares if you "like" Trump or not. You sound like a 13 year old girl with that nonsense.
Do some homework on burrowing, critical race theory, liberation theology, the goals of the global warming scam, and not-pop-leftist media/academia understandings of the left. Start with Locke and Burke and work your way forward. It might take you years, but you won't write such silliness in public ever again.
Yawn. If you can't find the testicular fortitude or sense to grasp who the far left progressives are and have been for a century, you're useless in the fight against them. It's abundantly clear that you need to re-read the human motivation paragraph here until you understand it, I can't understand it for you. No one cares if you "like" Trump or not. You sound like a 13 year old girl with that nonsense.
Do some homework on burrowing, critical race theory, liberation theology, the goals of the global warming scam, and not-pop-leftist media/academia understandings of the left. Start with Locke and Burke and work your way forward. It might take you years, but you won't write such silliness in public ever again.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (eSQgj)
601
>>Both major party candidates are compromised and at risk of being
controlled by a foreign power opposed to US interests. Which candidate
is most likely to be removed from office via impeachment or forced
resignation?
Trump, obviously.
Just like w/Obama, no way would Congress impeach a "historic first" - especially when they impeached her husband (the MSM "GOP war against the Clintons!" narrative writes itself)..
controlled by a foreign power opposed to US interests. Which candidate
is most likely to be removed from office via impeachment or forced
resignation?
Trump, obviously.
Just like w/Obama, no way would Congress impeach a "historic first" - especially when they impeached her husband (the MSM "GOP war against the Clintons!" narrative writes itself)..
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (NOIQH)
602
"Exactly how do you blackmail Hillary Clinton as president? There is
nothing in her e-mails that is any worse than what is out there already."
How in the world do you know that?
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (eSQgj)
Right ?
There could be pictures of her in her Spanx. aghhhhhh!
nothing in her e-mails that is any worse than what is out there already."
How in the world do you know that?
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 02:50 PM (eSQgj)
Right ?
There could be pictures of her in her Spanx. aghhhhhh!
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (M+Lyo)
603
Again defending Trump for the dumb contradictory shit he says will not convince the fence sitters. You just had a week of Trump and his supporters harping on the issue of honoring commitments of a contract. Don't try to spin his NATO comments as valid. At least not during the same week.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (FOeaV)
----------------
Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (FOeaV)
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Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
604
OT:
Since when didthe health dept stop giving kids immunizations?
Seems they do appts with nurse practioners for everything else though.
One would think the basic purpose would be immunizations duh
Since when didthe health dept stop giving kids immunizations?
Seems they do appts with nurse practioners for everything else though.
One would think the basic purpose would be immunizations duh
Posted by: FCF at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (kejii)
605
"You don't look scared... "
* * *
There likely are numerous intelligence agencies, some hostile to Russia, with Hillary's hacked emails. Therefore, Russia's best use of them is to destroy her incompetent, warmongering old ass with aplomb.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (ExAju)
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If the Russkies want to take her down with her emails, why have they let her get this far in the race, and why wouldn't they have released the ones she wiped "with a cloth"?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
* * *
There likely are numerous intelligence agencies, some hostile to Russia, with Hillary's hacked emails. Therefore, Russia's best use of them is to destroy her incompetent, warmongering old ass with aplomb.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2016 02:52 PM (ExAju)
---------------------------
If the Russkies want to take her down with her emails, why have they let her get this far in the race, and why wouldn't they have released the ones she wiped "with a cloth"?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Snorky.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (pC96u)
606
Hey never trumpers
I thought he was supposed to roll over for her in the general election
Guess not
Hey never trumpers
I thought he was supposed to roll over for her in the general election
Guess not
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (dyX6r)
607
A Virginia news station has gotten its paws on Jackie's texts and emails.
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I didn't know her boyfriend's name was Nindo Duffin.
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I didn't know her boyfriend's name was Nindo Duffin.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (Nwg0u)
608
Earlier Wednesday morning, Google searching for "presidential candidates" brought up a guide above all of the other search results with pictures of candidates with active campaigns. Clicking on a picture brought up searches for the candidates.
The only problem is that Republican candidate Donald Trump wasnt included. Neither was Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson. Results were shown for Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Green Party candidate Jill Stein. At about noon today, Trump, along with Johnson were also added to the google search.
"We --- uhhhh -- forgot Trump was running. Yeah, that's it."
Earlier Wednesday morning, Google searching for "presidential candidates" brought up a guide above all of the other search results with pictures of candidates with active campaigns. Clicking on a picture brought up searches for the candidates.
The only problem is that Republican candidate Donald Trump wasnt included. Neither was Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson. Results were shown for Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Green Party candidate Jill Stein. At about noon today, Trump, along with Johnson were also added to the google search.
"We --- uhhhh -- forgot Trump was running. Yeah, that's it."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (kdS6q)
609
So...person is one of Brock's keyboard warriors, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (+bodw)
611
Who could play Donald Trump in a mock debate? And why?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
Given how Biden performed against Ryan, I think he'd actually be a decent prepper just by being himself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2016 02:20 PM (X6fMO)
Given how Biden performed against Ryan, I think he'd actually be a decent prepper just by being himself.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (KUaJL)
612
On thing against Russia having any of Trump's emails is he was a private citizen, not the secretary of state
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bksJQ)
613
Putin and Russia are not even close to the evil The Stalinist USSR.
***
If we had a competent government, they would look at China and Russia as rational actors with there own priorities and goals.
In some cases they align with ours, in some they don't. You can work with them on the former and try to contain them in the latter in a way you couldn't with the USSR where things were a zero sum game.
But we don't have a competent government. And a majority of the electorate has no wish to understand modern geopolitics.
***
If we had a competent government, they would look at China and Russia as rational actors with there own priorities and goals.
In some cases they align with ours, in some they don't. You can work with them on the former and try to contain them in the latter in a way you couldn't with the USSR where things were a zero sum game.
But we don't have a competent government. And a majority of the electorate has no wish to understand modern geopolitics.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (X7E8f)
614
I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Of course he never said that. Support him or not, he has always said he would not release his tax returns while they are under audit. Nice try again
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Of course he never said that. Support him or not, he has always said he would not release his tax returns while they are under audit. Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (Ozsfq)
615
Prolly a big time saver to just punch that douchebag in the mouth instead of trying to jump through all those stupid hoops.
Yep. A wall of words that could be rendered down to OBEY and CONFORM.
Yep. A wall of words that could be rendered down to OBEY and CONFORM.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Roland [OMITTED] at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (QM5S2)
617
Ever see the French movie, "He Loves Me... He Loves Me Not"?
*shivers recalling the ending*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
Oh yeah, what she did with those pills. Great googly moogly.
*shivers recalling the ending*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
Oh yeah, what she did with those pills. Great googly moogly.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (oqI3S)
618
On thing against Russia having any of Trump's emails is he was a private citizen, not the secretary of state
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bksJQ)
"Apparently" from what trump said today. he does not use Email all that often..doesn't "trust" it?
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bksJQ)
"Apparently" from what trump said today. he does not use Email all that often..doesn't "trust" it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (Ozsfq)
619
NYT Headline an hour ago - "Trump calls for Russia to hack Hillary's emails"
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (7HtZB)
620
Since when didthe health dept stop giving kids immunizations?
Posted by: FCF
Since it became chic among the limousine liberals and granola girls to go full retard on the anti-vax stuff.
Posted by: FCF
Since it became chic among the limousine liberals and granola girls to go full retard on the anti-vax stuff.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (UPYhp)
621
I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes? Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Couldn't care less
I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes? Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Couldn't care less
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (lKyWE)
622
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's
stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and
others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire
attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC)
He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
http://tinyurl.com/hlopgdf
stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and
others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire
attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC)
He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
http://tinyurl.com/hlopgdf
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (3JA/M)
623
As somewhat of a libertarian, there are many things I think should not be enforced by the government, but society should enforce through shaming and scolding.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
++++
I don't disagree entirely with that. I generally prefer politicians who exhibit high personal morality. Not really up for listening to lectures from them, though. Rather that they lead by personal example.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
++++
I don't disagree entirely with that. I generally prefer politicians who exhibit high personal morality. Not really up for listening to lectures from them, though. Rather that they lead by personal example.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (R+30W)
624
612 On thing against Russia having any of Trump's emails is he was a private citizen, not the secretary of state
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bksJQ)
And that he has yuge, gold-plated, email security systems, probably.
Although he did say recently he doesn't like emailing.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bksJQ)
And that he has yuge, gold-plated, email security systems, probably.
Although he did say recently he doesn't like emailing.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)
625
Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: person
I will officially be incensed about Turnip if you release your taxes.
Posted by: person
I will officially be incensed about Turnip if you release your taxes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (VY8H5)
626
Rule to live by 1) Don't dip your wick in crazy.
I prefer the Cowboy. 8 seconds and keep your boots on.
I prefer the Cowboy. 8 seconds and keep your boots on.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (evdj2)
627
577 Trump didn't say he wouldn't defend just that he may not, depending on whether said country met its obligations. Saying we'd defend even deadbeats just means there's no partners in NATO just and deadbeats and the suckers who pay the bill.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
------------------------------------------
Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC
Spoiler Alert: NATO is worthless and a drain on our military and interests. It is a relic of the Cold War. Pull our military out and form alliances with those who wish to destroy Ismalists.
Turkey can have NATO as their army is the second largest in NATO and instantly NATO becomes a NO NO.
But the USA is he'll bent on national suicide thanks to the criminals in DC. Islam first and everything else second.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
------------------------------------------
Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mFkVC
Spoiler Alert: NATO is worthless and a drain on our military and interests. It is a relic of the Cold War. Pull our military out and form alliances with those who wish to destroy Ismalists.
Turkey can have NATO as their army is the second largest in NATO and instantly NATO becomes a NO NO.
But the USA is he'll bent on national suicide thanks to the criminals in DC. Islam first and everything else second.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (UkK38)
628
Yes, and about NATO. By best friend works for a NATO/DoD program. Each NATO country sends mini-ambassadors, "national deputies" and their families to live here and work the program and manage the funds. We pay for 95% of it and take an "equal" spot in all the decision making. The program protects THEM, not us.
People fail to grasp who NATO is really financed by and how we allow them to be "equal" to us in the decision making.
That's the point. He isn't wrong AT ALL.
People fail to grasp who NATO is really financed by and how we allow them to be "equal" to us in the decision making.
That's the point. He isn't wrong AT ALL.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (eSQgj)
629
If the Russkies want to take her down with her emails, why have they let her get this far in the race, and why wouldn't they have released the ones she wiped "with a cloth"?
because they can take her down now, on stage, and take JEF, the media, the dem party and anyone dumb enough to be near her along with her?
Trump is still the GOP nominee, bernie the bolshevik might wind up being the go-to guy AFTER being screwed over, used and dumped and the US and severa lof its instutions are seen for being corrupt and run by idiots.
Assad is watching, as is Iraq.
because they can take her down now, on stage, and take JEF, the media, the dem party and anyone dumb enough to be near her along with her?
Trump is still the GOP nominee, bernie the bolshevik might wind up being the go-to guy AFTER being screwed over, used and dumped and the US and severa lof its instutions are seen for being corrupt and run by idiots.
Assad is watching, as is Iraq.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (326rv)
630
I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Ow. Ow. Ow. OOWWWWWWWW!!!!
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Ow. Ow. Ow. OOWWWWWWWW!!!!
Posted by: The Chicken at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (8ZskC)
631
626 Rule to live by 1) Don't dip your wick in crazy.
I prefer the Cowboy. 8 seconds and keep your boots on.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (evdj2)
I though the Cowboy was choke by December?
I prefer the Cowboy. 8 seconds and keep your boots on.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (evdj2)
I though the Cowboy was choke by December?
Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (7HtZB)
632
Whoa. I just looked at that. The color of the sky in her world was a boiled-bunny shade of paisley.
The guy she married (IIRC she did) ought to look up the kitchen knives before going to bed.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (hLRSq)
Holy shit the boyfriend married her? Dude. Duuuude. Maybe she's finally on medication? Because otherwise holy crap.
Also Ryan appears to have a grasp on grammar, spelling, logic and reason.
I hope he never ever realizes how close he came to being a plot line in a Lifetime Movie.
The guy she married (IIRC she did) ought to look up the kitchen knives before going to bed.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 02:55 PM (hLRSq)
Holy shit the boyfriend married her? Dude. Duuuude. Maybe she's finally on medication? Because otherwise holy crap.
Also Ryan appears to have a grasp on grammar, spelling, logic and reason.
I hope he never ever realizes how close he came to being a plot line in a Lifetime Movie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (mf5HN)
633
NYT Headline an hour ago - "Trump calls for Russia to hack Hillary's emails"
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (7HtZB)
classic nytimes
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2016 03:01 PM (7HtZB)
classic nytimes
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)
634
NYT Headline an hour ago - "Trump calls for Russia to hack Hillary's emails"
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
Posted by: josephistan
NYT Headline an hour from now - "Trump threatens to pinch Hillary's adorable grandson."
NYT Headline an hour ago - "Trump calls for Russia to hack Hillary's emails"
NYT headline now - "Trump calls for Russia to expose Hillary's emails."
Posted by: josephistan
NYT Headline an hour from now - "Trump threatens to pinch Hillary's adorable grandson."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (kdS6q)
635
You got linked on Instapundit with this one, nice
Posted by: brak at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (MJuTN)
636
"No, Ma'am."
* * *
What good is it to have that power over her if you know a dozen other countries have the same power over her?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (lKyWE)
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Maybe all those countries are planning to divvy us up like Churchill and the Allies drawing a new Middle East on the back of a cocktail napkin.
* * *
O blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
* * *
What good is it to have that power over her if you know a dozen other countries have the same power over her?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (lKyWE)
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Maybe all those countries are planning to divvy us up like Churchill and the Allies drawing a new Middle East on the back of a cocktail napkin.
* * *
O blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (pC96u)
637
>>I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Naw, Barack Obama never revealing any person documents taught me that one does not need to do so to get elected.
Naw, Barack Obama never revealing any person documents taught me that one does not need to do so to get elected.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (qCMvj)
639
Russia has similar but worse blackmail material on Trump
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Trying to blackmail Trump would be suboptimal.
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Trying to blackmail Trump would be suboptimal.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (Nwg0u)
640
If, as we believe, HRC's home-brew server was hacked by the Russians, Chinese, et al,
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There is the real possibility that spyware was placed and all the leaks are coming in from everyone else on autopilot
After Hillary they'll have to replace all the PCs in DC
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There is the real possibility that spyware was placed and all the leaks are coming in from everyone else on autopilot
After Hillary they'll have to replace all the PCs in DC
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (WoTr5)
641
Excellent work, Ace. You and Iowahawk get it.
Posted by: George Tirebiter at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (/zyrl)
642
O blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (pC96u)
Ok, I have to ask. What is this meme about?
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (pC96u)
Ok, I have to ask. What is this meme about?
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:04 PM (evdj2)
644
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (evdj2)
The funny thing is the people that scold is trying to guilt trip have an attention span of a gnat.
No way they would waste there time (like I did) reading that wall of bs.
The funny thing is the people that scold is trying to guilt trip have an attention span of a gnat.
No way they would waste there time (like I did) reading that wall of bs.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (X+nFp)
645
http://tinyurl.com/hlopgdf
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (3JA/M)
Your shitting me right? he had one pageant there and THAT is your big proof? And there were rich russians in the room? OOOH
He has NO property there and no investments there as far as I can tell.
http://tinyurl.com/hlopgdf
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 03:02 PM (3JA/M)
Your shitting me right? he had one pageant there and THAT is your big proof? And there were rich russians in the room? OOOH
He has NO property there and no investments there as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (Ozsfq)
646
Everyone relax. Cher has weighed in on Twitter.
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (nhHaf)
647
classic nytimes
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)
These people were just this week wondering aloud why they had the perception of bias.
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)
These people were just this week wondering aloud why they had the perception of bias.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (KUaJL)
648
So you want me to prove a negative ha?
Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (Ozsfq)
-----------------
Ok, so you're wishing and hoping again.
"Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets... We have a lot of money pouring in from Russia." said Donald Trump Jr.
After a glitzy after-party in Moscow on one of Trump's many trips to get money from Russians close to Putin, Trump bragged "Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room."
There are lots of sources out there, NGU. Find one you trust, it isn't hard.
So you want me to prove a negative ha?
Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:58 PM (Ozsfq)
-----------------
Ok, so you're wishing and hoping again.
"Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets... We have a lot of money pouring in from Russia." said Donald Trump Jr.
After a glitzy after-party in Moscow on one of Trump's many trips to get money from Russians close to Putin, Trump bragged "Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room."
There are lots of sources out there, NGU. Find one you trust, it isn't hard.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (mFkVC)
649
Nothing at all wrong with it but Trump does have business ties with people in Russia. Russians make up a large percentage of people who purchase his high dollar properties. He's traveled to Russia a number of times. He held his pageant there in 2013. Nothing wrong with his ties which are innocent compared to Hillary's ties which are nefarious.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (FOeaV)
650
I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his
pledge to release his taxes? Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM
(mFkVC)
I am still waiting for them to realize the hypocrisy and irony in mocking Bernie for doing what the got livid at Cruz for not doing.
#notatallacult
pledge to release his taxes? Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM
(mFkVC)
I am still waiting for them to realize the hypocrisy and irony in mocking Bernie for doing what the got livid at Cruz for not doing.
#notatallacult
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (3JA/M)
651
ALSO ALSO the summer receptionist is a very sweet, very adorable, VERY YOUNG lady. So all y'all stop it with the impure thoughts.
________________________
I'd hit it....
*hic*
________________________
I'd hit it....
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (HSmrB)
652
603 Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM
Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
I'm still waiting for The Dog-Eater-in-Chief to release his transcripts ...
... and for Mooch to identify the '68 Electra she stole the upholstery from.
603 Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM
Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
I'm still waiting for The Dog-Eater-in-Chief to release his transcripts ...
... and for Mooch to identify the '68 Electra she stole the upholstery from.
Posted by: Buick Style Department, Seats & Interiors at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (FlRtG)
653
Why would Russia release Hillary's emails?
You can be sure that every competent intelligence agency in the world has Barky's records - his transcripts, his college applications, his college travels, associations with revolutionary organizations, everything the US media had no interest in. Did they release any of it?
You can be sure that every competent intelligence agency in the world has Barky's records - his transcripts, his college applications, his college travels, associations with revolutionary organizations, everything the US media had no interest in. Did they release any of it?
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (5xDis)
654
Jake Sullivan really, really badly just put Hillary campaigns foot in its mouth. If I was in the Trump campaign i would have another presser over Jake's campaign posting. I mean seriously, he just eviscerated all of Hillary's prior comments regarding the e-mails she did not turn over to state.
Posted by: JeffreyL at July 27, 2016 03:06 PM (mXv3y)
655
595 He has no business ties with Russia. Nice try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
---------------------
Go on. Show your source.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
In his press conference today, Trump said he had nothing to do with Russia.
He could be lying, though.
So, it is up to you to provide the evidence that Trump is lying. The burden of proof is on you to provide the evidence.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (Ozsfq)
---------------------
Go on. Show your source.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
In his press conference today, Trump said he had nothing to do with Russia.
He could be lying, though.
So, it is up to you to provide the evidence that Trump is lying. The burden of proof is on you to provide the evidence.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 03:06 PM (oqI3S)
656
There was a BLM protest on Broad Street in Philadelphia yesterday, heard on radio (Philadelphia station) the woman leader was yelling black media to front, whites in back and threats to force that.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:06 PM (bksJQ)
657
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Crap. First the Syrians, now the cybors too?
Crap. First the Syrians, now the cybors too?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2016 03:06 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 03:06 PM (7lVbc)
659
>> Nothing wrong with his ties which are innocent compared to Hillary's ties which are nefarious.
Yep - two words: Clinton Cash.
The book or the movie - both detail what Hillary's done for Putin for major foundation "donations".
Yep - two words: Clinton Cash.
The book or the movie - both detail what Hillary's done for Putin for major foundation "donations".
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (NOIQH)
660
Jesus now they are attacking trump because he sold Apartments in AMERICA to russians and he met Rich russians. well now you convinced me. he is evil and must be stopped.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Ozsfq)
661
classic nytimes
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)
These people were just this week wondering aloud why they had the perception of bias.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (KUaJL)
over at insty
THE NEW YORK TIMES THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A BIG POLITICAL EMAIL HACK: Help Us Review the Sarah Palin E-Mail Records.
put out what they want first, to outrage, then quietly walk back the lies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)
These people were just this week wondering aloud why they had the perception of bias.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (KUaJL)
over at insty
THE NEW YORK TIMES THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A BIG POLITICAL EMAIL HACK: Help Us Review the Sarah Palin E-Mail Records.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (qCMvj)
662
613 "Putin and Russia are not even close to the evil The Stalinist USSR.
***
If we had a competent government, they would look at China and Russia as rational actors with there own priorities and goals. "
This is right.
I do a lot of business with Russia. I travel to Moscow on occasion to do it.
Russians have embraced the capitalistic system with gusto. They love everything American. For the average Russian on the street, all they want is to make money, travel and drink.
Putin was the exact leader they needed at that time. They needed a strong guy who would cut a few corners to get things done because those are the times they are living in. Russia is like Deadwood - the wild west.
Part of being the leader of Russia is a need to be seen as standing up to other world powers. It's a matter of national pride after the fall of the USSR. It makes them feel less like second class citizens in the world.
Trump is just the guy to deal with Putin.
***
If we had a competent government, they would look at China and Russia as rational actors with there own priorities and goals. "
This is right.
I do a lot of business with Russia. I travel to Moscow on occasion to do it.
Russians have embraced the capitalistic system with gusto. They love everything American. For the average Russian on the street, all they want is to make money, travel and drink.
Putin was the exact leader they needed at that time. They needed a strong guy who would cut a few corners to get things done because those are the times they are living in. Russia is like Deadwood - the wild west.
Part of being the leader of Russia is a need to be seen as standing up to other world powers. It's a matter of national pride after the fall of the USSR. It makes them feel less like second class citizens in the world.
Trump is just the guy to deal with Putin.
Posted by: jwest at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Zs4uk)
663
I hope he never ever realizes how close he came to being a plot line in a Lifetime Movie.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (mf5HN)
I figured he still was going to be. It just depends on how much they want to go "based on actual events," which will determine whether to portray Jackie as the victim or the villain. Lifetime, so victim of course.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (mf5HN)
I figured he still was going to be. It just depends on how much they want to go "based on actual events," which will determine whether to portray Jackie as the victim or the villain. Lifetime, so victim of course.
Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (z/Ubi)
664
ROTFLMAO!!
It looks like Eric Erickson stained his blue pants over Billy boy's speech.
I bet his buds over at Bluestate creamed their jeans too.
It looks like Eric Erickson stained his blue pants over Billy boy's speech.
I bet his buds over at Bluestate creamed their jeans too.
Posted by: Drider at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (bdzyz)
665
Everyone relax. Cher has weighed in on Twitter.
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (nhHaf)
Cher is the real Cloggenstien
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:05 PM (nhHaf)
Cher is the real Cloggenstien
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (M+Lyo)
666
>>>635 You got linked on Instapundit with this one, nice
Posted by: brak at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (MJuTN)
What the fuck? Do we have to behave?
Posted by: brak at July 27, 2016 03:03 PM (MJuTN)
What the fuck? Do we have to behave?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (X/qvg)
667
Everyone relax. Cher has weighed in on Twitter.
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
And you still haven't you moistened bint.
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
And you still haven't you moistened bint.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (OKpu1)
668
Of course he never said that. Support him or not, he has always said he would not release his tax returns while they are under audit. Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (Ozsfq)
In Feb of last year, Trump promised to release his tax returns. He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Of course he never said that. Support him or not, he has always said he would not release his tax returns while they are under audit. Nice try again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:00 PM (Ozsfq)
In Feb of last year, Trump promised to release his tax returns. He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (mFkVC)
669
Cher: NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
You just weren't paying attention, sweetcakes.
Oh shit, here comes the guy with the pitchfork again. Gotta run.
You just weren't paying attention, sweetcakes.
Oh shit, here comes the guy with the pitchfork again. Gotta run.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (8ZskC)
670
495 If Putin invaded Estonia today...
Estonia today, Poland '39, same-o same-o. Phony War 2016. It seems to me a more likely scenario is a Czech '38 carve up. We are actually more likely to chuck in Latvia to sweeten the pot.
Nobody wants the Lithuanians.
If we do throw in Latvia it is incumbent upon us to take in as many tall Latvian hottie refugees as possible.
495 If Putin invaded Estonia today...
Estonia today, Poland '39, same-o same-o. Phony War 2016. It seems to me a more likely scenario is a Czech '38 carve up. We are actually more likely to chuck in Latvia to sweeten the pot.
Nobody wants the Lithuanians.
If we do throw in Latvia it is incumbent upon us to take in as many tall Latvian hottie refugees as possible.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (FtrY1)
671
Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes?
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Your concern is:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not Noted
[X] Folded, Spindled, and Mutilated
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mFkVC)
Your concern is:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not Noted
[X] Folded, Spindled, and Mutilated
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Salute the DNC with Bang a Gong, Gotterdammerung! at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (hLRSq)
672
NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
hearing comprehension
not her strongest suit
hearing comprehension
not her strongest suit
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (qCMvj)
673
For those who get tired reading easily, in my defense I posted the whole thing to show that with the Left, it's never just one little rule like "Please pick up that gum wrapper."
Ace should be so lucky as to have his field blocked by only a simple fence. What he really gets instead is an unbroken grid of interlocking welded steel paddocks.
Ace should be so lucky as to have his field blocked by only a simple fence. What he really gets instead is an unbroken grid of interlocking welded steel paddocks.
Posted by: Jamie at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (8Ao46)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (Ozsfq)
675
As somewhat of a libertarian, there are many things I think should not
be enforced by the government, but society should enforce through
shaming and scolding.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
I agree with this
But the left's position is that, set aside the whole 'legislating morality' thing, that public figures shouldn't even be scolding or shaming anyone. And Ace seems to have bought into this. It gives me a sadz.
be enforced by the government, but society should enforce through
shaming and scolding.
I may agree that marijuana use should be legal, but that is not the same as being encouraged or looked upon indifferently.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
I agree with this
But the left's position is that, set aside the whole 'legislating morality' thing, that public figures shouldn't even be scolding or shaming anyone. And Ace seems to have bought into this. It gives me a sadz.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (uAvJJ)
676
Russian Operative: "Mr. Trump, we have many pictures of you in "compromising positions" with several models who are NOT your wife."
Trump: "Cool. Can't wait to see them. How do I look?"
Trump: "Cool. Can't wait to see them. How do I look?"
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (kKHcp)
677
All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (evdj2)
678
Bobcat did have a funny joke in his standup about a female fan telling him she wanted to fuck his brains out. He said in his 20s he would have been ALRIGHT but in his 40s he was more like EEEEEESH. Can we just do it once and go to sleep?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (X/qvg)
679
Jesus now they are attacking trump because he sold Apartments in AMERICA to russians and he met Rich russians. well now you convinced me. he is evil and must be stopped.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Ozsfq)
they've got nothing
he baits them, they comply
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Ozsfq)
they've got nothing
he baits them, they comply
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (qCMvj)
680
674 He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
Then you must be deaf
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (Ozsfq)
--------------
He added those at the debate and you know it.
Debate in good faith, please. And stop moving your goalposts.
Then you must be deaf
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (Ozsfq)
--------------
He added those at the debate and you know it.
Debate in good faith, please. And stop moving your goalposts.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (mFkVC)
681
Wooah, hey, we Cybermen are totally not cyber-hacking the DNC's emails or breaking any cyber-laws. We're totes cyber-behaving.
Cyber-swearsies.
Cyber-swearsies.
Posted by: The Cyber-Leader at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (u0s1P)
682
Sean Davis @seanmdav
Romney: Russia is a threat.
DNC: lol ur stupid
IT experts: Russia will hack you.
DNC: rofl
Russia: I just hacked you.
DNC: Trump did this.
Romney: Russia is a threat.
DNC: lol ur stupid
IT experts: Russia will hack you.
DNC: rofl
Russia: I just hacked you.
DNC: Trump did this.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (PjWy4)
683
None of these charges of Trump and Russia surprise me, that's how leftists roll, find a charge agaist someone and make anyone associated in any way denounce them.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (bksJQ)
684
Well, yeah.
Good on you Ace for saying something that needed to be said. One more thing that makes your smart military blog so uniquely excellent.
The only thing that outrages me in this whole squirrelathon is that our country has come to the point where the only recourse that the American people have to learn the facts about the malfeasance of its high officials is the activity of foreign intelligence services. Sad, really.
Very sad.
Good on you Ace for saying something that needed to be said. One more thing that makes your smart military blog so uniquely excellent.
The only thing that outrages me in this whole squirrelathon is that our country has come to the point where the only recourse that the American people have to learn the facts about the malfeasance of its high officials is the activity of foreign intelligence services. Sad, really.
Very sad.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 27, 2016 03:11 PM (gUoN4)
685
" Oh, and in the wake of all that harping on "the pledge" - I assume all Trump supporters are incensed that Trump violated his pledge to release his taxes? "
You mean when he said that he would release them at some point in time?
I was down on the record on hoping that he only would if Hillary released information on the Clinton Foundation, speehs and medical records.
I would never just give them up but thats me.
You mean when he said that he would release them at some point in time?
I was down on the record on hoping that he only would if Hillary released information on the Clinton Foundation, speehs and medical records.
I would never just give them up but thats me.
Posted by: Drider at July 27, 2016 03:11 PM (bdzyz)
686
hearing comprehension
not her strongest suit>>>
I hear just fine. The voices in myhed R real loud.
not her strongest suit>>>
I hear just fine. The voices in myhed R real loud.
Posted by: Cher at July 27, 2016 03:11 PM (aVYsC)
687
None of these charges of Trump and Russia surprise me, that's how leftists roll, find a charge agaist someone and make anyone associated in any way denounce them.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (bksJQ)
/shrug
just keeps him in the news AND gives him a chance to have another press conference
all eyes and ears on Trump
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:10 PM (bksJQ)
/shrug
just keeps him in the news AND gives him a chance to have another press conference
all eyes and ears on Trump
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (qCMvj)
688
Wooah, hey, we Cybermen are totally not cyber-hacking the DNC's emails or breaking any cyber-laws. We're totes cyber-behaving.
Cyber-swearsies.
Posted by: The Cyber-Leader
You cyber-lie!
Cyber-swearsies.
Posted by: The Cyber-Leader
You cyber-lie!
Posted by: Cyber Joe Wilson at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (UPYhp)
689
"Please convey to Putin I'll have more flexibility after I'm re-elected."
Posted by: TFG at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (1ZOkK)
690
If doing business with Russian is such a bad thing for Trump to be doing, then why is NASA subcontracting with Russia to get US Astronauts to the International Space Station?
Shouldn't we be doing that ourselves?
Shouldn't we be doing that ourselves?
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (h/n4g)
691
As the guy at pj media wrote yesterday, DNC you wrote the emails.
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (bksJQ)
692
Yeah, Trump may be heavily invested in Hot Russian Models, Inc.
May be friends with Russian oligarch's who have a big supply of hot Russian models.
The Eastern Europeans in general make up a YUGE fraction of the hot model demo for some reason. I can see why. Cant' explain it, but I can see it.
May be friends with Russian oligarch's who have a big supply of hot Russian models.
The Eastern Europeans in general make up a YUGE fraction of the hot model demo for some reason. I can see why. Cant' explain it, but I can see it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (DW+jj)
693
Site performance just went to shit. We've been Instalanched.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
694
Go on. Show your source.Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)
Show yours where he does. He said he does not, very clearly. You're quoting the leftists, because............well, you know why.
Show yours where he does. He said he does not, very clearly. You're quoting the leftists, because............well, you know why.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (eSQgj)
695
Democrats and their liberal allies in the news media are going to treat ANY republican candidate, whether Trump, McCain, or Romney, like shit no matter what they say or do. So I like it when Trump does crap like this. They're going to shit on him anyway, he may as well give them something to bitch about. I hope he plays really dirty.
Whether Hillary or Trump wins, I hope Hillary comes out of this covered in a coating of her own feces.
Remember how the left made a big issue of of Romney roping his dog's crate to the roof of his car decades before the election? Or how they made an issue of his using the words, "binders of women"? They make issues of silly shit like that, let's give them some real shit.
We have Trump as a candidate, I want him to slime the bitch every chance he gets.
Whether Hillary or Trump wins, I hope Hillary comes out of this covered in a coating of her own feces.
Remember how the left made a big issue of of Romney roping his dog's crate to the roof of his car decades before the election? Or how they made an issue of his using the words, "binders of women"? They make issues of silly shit like that, let's give them some real shit.
We have Trump as a candidate, I want him to slime the bitch every chance he gets.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (+lVUW)
696
BBC on Trump's Russian connections:
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36862749
Shorter BBC: Eh.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36862749
Shorter BBC: Eh.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (oqI3S)
697
Erick Erickson on Twitter last night:
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (nhHaf)
698
In Feb of last year, Trump promised to release his tax returns. He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Posted by: person
Yeah, NATO is doomed.
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Posted by: person
Yeah, NATO is doomed.
Posted by: entity at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (326rv)
699
Daily Beast:
Trump's Russia Hacker Comment May Be a Felony!!!!!
Holy shit that level of stupid is fucking EPIC !!!
Trump's Russia Hacker Comment May Be a Felony!!!!!
Holy shit that level of stupid is fucking EPIC !!!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (jjaLl)
700
I didn't read the whole thing, but yes I do think that there's a difference between little old me saying something stupid and someone running to be the most powerful man in the world saying the same thing.
I guess we're all just going to pretend that Trump's diarrhea of the mouth is not going to cause any problems whatsoever.
What would your reaction be if Obama said the same thing about a Republican candidate?
Find, support Trump, but let's try to be intellectually honest.
I need to get back to work so I will probably not respond to any reply to this.
I guess we're all just going to pretend that Trump's diarrhea of the mouth is not going to cause any problems whatsoever.
What would your reaction be if Obama said the same thing about a Republican candidate?
Find, support Trump, but let's try to be intellectually honest.
I need to get back to work so I will probably not respond to any reply to this.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, l'americaine at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (mBYZv)
701
Jesus now they are attacking trump because he sold Apartments in AMERICA to russians and he met Rich russians. well now you convinced me. he is evil and must be stopped.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Ozsfq)
I'm not attacking Trump. You said he had no business ties. We tell you he has business ties and tell you what they are and you blow a lid. Don't make a statement if you don't want to hear the answer.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Ozsfq)
I'm not attacking Trump. You said he had no business ties. We tell you he has business ties and tell you what they are and you blow a lid. Don't make a statement if you don't want to hear the answer.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (FOeaV)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: The Chicken at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (syn4Y)
704
Also, Trump is simply asking the Russians to do the job that our "serious journalists " refuse to do, vetting a presidential candidate.
Our journalists, an arm of the democratic party, would never have looked at this if the Russians and Wikileaks hadn't forced them to.
Our journalists, an arm of the democratic party, would never have looked at this if the Russians and Wikileaks hadn't forced them to.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (+lVUW)
705
As usual, late to a thread. And as usual Ace brings the topic around full circle...and shit.
I think.
I think.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (NpXoL)
706
USING the current trends in immigration and government policies and the faux coup in Turkey to form a new Caliphate with Hilter reincarnated in power, NATO will soon be the army and military force of the Muslim people.
So again whose interets does our NATO membership serve?
So again whose interets does our NATO membership serve?
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (UkK38)
707
The Eastern Europeans in general make up a YUGE fraction of the hot model demo for some reason. I can see why. Cant' explain it, but I can see it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (DW+jj)
Probably because of all the hard times they went through. Beauty is a survival trait in a totalitarian regime so the genes get passed on.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (DW+jj)
Probably because of all the hard times they went through. Beauty is a survival trait in a totalitarian regime so the genes get passed on.
Posted by: @votermom at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (7lVbc)
708
You cyber-lie!
Posted by: Cyber Joe Wilson at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (UPYhp)
I WILL CYBER-MURDER YOUR FAMILY FOR DISRESPECTING ME AT THIS SOLEMN VENUE I mean uh, that's so rude. But I shall embrace the words of Cyber-Jesus (and I guess my cyber-parole) and turn the other cyber-cheek.
*shakes fist at The Doctor* This ankle bracelet makes me look cyber-gay!
Posted by: Cyber Joe Wilson at July 27, 2016 03:12 PM (UPYhp)
I WILL CYBER-MURDER YOUR FAMILY FOR DISRESPECTING ME AT THIS SOLEMN VENUE I mean uh, that's so rude. But I shall embrace the words of Cyber-Jesus (and I guess my cyber-parole) and turn the other cyber-cheek.
*shakes fist at The Doctor* This ankle bracelet makes me look cyber-gay!
Posted by: The Cyber-Leader at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (u0s1P)
Posted by: eleven at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (qUNWi)
710
>> NEVER IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION DID I THINK ID
>> HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE
>> CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Dimwit bitch. They got the emails years ago.
If Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia but didn't tell anyone, would they still be at war?
>> HEAR AN AMERICAN,ASK A HOSTILE GOV 2DECLARE
>> CYBOR WAR AGAINST OUR COUNTRY #BENEDICTTRUMP
Dimwit bitch. They got the emails years ago.
If Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia but didn't tell anyone, would they still be at war?
Posted by: JEM at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (o+SC1)
711
"People do."
* * *
Posted by: chique d'afrique, l'americaine at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (mBYZv)
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Quite a few errors of fact and logic in there. I'm sorry she won't be able to read/respond.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Drooper.
* * *
Posted by: chique d'afrique, l'americaine at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (mBYZv)
---------------------
Quite a few errors of fact and logic in there. I'm sorry she won't be able to read/respond.
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Drooper.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: t-bird at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (F1ndw)
713
If doing business with Russian is such a bad thing for Trump to be doing, then why is NASA subcontracting with Russia to get US Astronauts to the International Space Station?
Shouldn't we be doing that ourselves?
Posted by: Joe Happy
Fortunately our dear islamist residents are cheap dates.
Shouldn't we be doing that ourselves?
Posted by: Joe Happy
Fortunately our dear islamist residents are cheap dates.
Posted by: Need Another Shiite Astronaut at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (VY8H5)
714
Debate in good faith, please.
Are we debating? The Proposition is 'Donald Trump as President will be worse for the country and conservatives than Hillary Clinton'. I'll take the anti.
Opening statement: You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
Are we debating? The Proposition is 'Donald Trump as President will be worse for the country and conservatives than Hillary Clinton'. I'll take the anti.
Opening statement: You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at July 27, 2016 03:16 PM (evdj2)
715
If every R in every interview isn't pointing out the collusion between the Ds and the press revealed in the DNC emails, why the hell aren't they???? This is a perfect opportunity to sock them in the nose and rock them back on their heels.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (PjWy4)
716
What if there's a third scenario on the Russians releasing the emails?
They're torpedoing Hillary because they have something worse on Trump. So they want to torpedo Hillary so that Trump is president, then they can use blackmail to control him.
I have no idea what they could possibly have, but it's just a scenario I haven't seen anyone consider.
They're torpedoing Hillary because they have something worse on Trump. So they want to torpedo Hillary so that Trump is president, then they can use blackmail to control him.
I have no idea what they could possibly have, but it's just a scenario I haven't seen anyone consider.
Posted by: PBJ1515 at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (r1du+)
717
I'm not attacking Trump. You said he had no business ties. We tell you he has business ties and tell you what they are and you blow a lid. Don't make a statement if you don't want to hear the answer.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (FOeaV)
Sorry selling American Condos to Russians is not much of a business tie to me. When they pass a law forbidding sales to Russian Nationals get back to me
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (FOeaV)
Sorry selling American Condos to Russians is not much of a business tie to me. When they pass a law forbidding sales to Russian Nationals get back to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (PjWy4)
719
697 Erick Erickson on Twitter last night:
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (nhHaf)
++++
The GOP, the party itself, kept its marriage vows? Who plays the wife in Erickson's delusions?
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (nhHaf)
++++
The GOP, the party itself, kept its marriage vows? Who plays the wife in Erickson's delusions?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (R+30W)
720
It's usually just called a "gun" (in quotes) when briefed. I highly doubt it'll ever be a Program of Record due to its limitations, incidentally.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (uiwCw)
Thank you for that. You know, if they incorporated a powerful IR laser into the design, they could burn out a drone's cameras, I expect.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 27, 2016 02:54 PM (uiwCw)
Thank you for that. You know, if they incorporated a powerful IR laser into the design, they could burn out a drone's cameras, I expect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 03:18 PM (GSdpU)
721
Posted by: chique d'afrique, l'americaine at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM
And what exactly did Trump say at his presser that offended you?
And what exactly did Trump say at his presser that offended you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:18 PM (Ozsfq)
722
In Feb of last year, Trump promised to release his tax returns. He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
he did.
They're on Hillary's e-mail server. That's why he's asking the russians to release everything.
Now, as for NATO members not meeting their obligations ad Trump somehow being the destrtuctive force that will end NATO, I wana hear how this works.
he did.
They're on Hillary's e-mail server. That's why he's asking the russians to release everything.
Now, as for NATO members not meeting their obligations ad Trump somehow being the destrtuctive force that will end NATO, I wana hear how this works.
Posted by: entity at July 27, 2016 03:18 PM (326rv)
723
Probably because of all the hard times they went through. Beauty is a survival trait in a totalitarian regime so the genes get passed on.
I would expect a continuous regression to the mean though since they are getting porked by seriously ugly guys with power.
I would expect a continuous regression to the mean though since they are getting porked by seriously ugly guys with power.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at July 27, 2016 03:18 PM (evdj2)
724
>>"GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice."
Hmmmm. My vows included a part about 'forsaking all others' and to 'love, honor, and obey'. Why is a marriage laudable when it is in name only, while the parties live separate lives in separate states?
It's a business partnership, Erickson, not a marriage.
Hmmmm. My vows included a part about 'forsaking all others' and to 'love, honor, and obey'. Why is a marriage laudable when it is in name only, while the parties live separate lives in separate states?
It's a business partnership, Erickson, not a marriage.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 27, 2016 03:18 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2016 03:19 PM (gyKtp)
726
The answer should be , so what if Trump does business with Russians and has done business in Russia. Instead of trying to deny any connections. It gives an opportunity to bring up Hillary's uranium quid pro quo deal.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:19 PM (FOeaV)
Posted by: Mr. Leahy at July 27, 2016 03:19 PM (XkVXQ)
728
If every R in every interview isn't pointing out the collusion between the Ds and the press revealed in the DNC emails, why the hell aren't they???? This is a perfect opportunity to sock them in the nose and rock them back on their heels.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
That's just not how things get done. Our esteemed friends might not invite us to the next cocktail party.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
That's just not how things get done. Our esteemed friends might not invite us to the next cocktail party.
Posted by: George Will at July 27, 2016 03:19 PM (UPYhp)
729
This is a perfect opportunity to sock them in the nose and rock them back on their heels.
You say it like it's a good thing. Oh, look, cocktail time!
You say it like it's a good thing. Oh, look, cocktail time!
Posted by: The GOPe at July 27, 2016 03:20 PM (F1ndw)
730
"Some people like attention."
* * *
Erick Erickson on Twitter last night:
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (nhHaf)
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Isn't adultery breaking a vow?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
* * *
Erick Erickson on Twitter last night:
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:13 PM (nhHaf)
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Isn't adultery breaking a vow?
* * *
O Blessed Virgin, turn thine eyes upon Bingo.
Posted by: iforgot lost a bet to the more realistic guy who worships cartoon characters at July 27, 2016 03:20 PM (pC96u)
731
Erickson has done lost his mind. When he tweeted that "It sounded better in the original German" line (which he plagiarized from Molly Ivins, BTW), I knew he had just flown over the cuckoo's nest. This is just more of the insanity.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 03:20 PM (DW+jj)
732
>>"GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice."
Hmmmm. My vows included a part about 'forsaking all others' and to 'love, honor, and obey'. Why is a marriage laudable when it is in name only, while the parties live separate lives in separate states?
It's a business partnership, Erickson, not a marriage.
----------
Both of them have different views of marriage than I do. In the end, I don't care too much about their marriages.
Hmmmm. My vows included a part about 'forsaking all others' and to 'love, honor, and obey'. Why is a marriage laudable when it is in name only, while the parties live separate lives in separate states?
It's a business partnership, Erickson, not a marriage.
----------
Both of them have different views of marriage than I do. In the end, I don't care too much about their marriages.
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 03:20 PM (gmeXX)
733
Both major party candidates are compromised and at risk of being controlled by a foreign power opposed to US interests. Which candidate is most likely to be removed from office via impeachment or forced resignation?
Posted by: Joe at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (QFnhZ)
That scenario is another one that favors a vote for Trump. Pence would make a decent president--infinitely superior to Kaine.
In my fantasies, Trump beats the pantsuit off of Hillary in the election, then resigns because he gets bored or something.
But to answer your question, the media would try to protect Clinton from being impeached.
Posted by: Joe at July 27, 2016 02:56 PM (QFnhZ)
That scenario is another one that favors a vote for Trump. Pence would make a decent president--infinitely superior to Kaine.
In my fantasies, Trump beats the pantsuit off of Hillary in the election, then resigns because he gets bored or something.
But to answer your question, the media would try to protect Clinton from being impeached.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 27, 2016 03:20 PM (ozZau)
734
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2016 03:17 PM (Ozsfq)
Having his pageant there and making millions from it was no small thing either.
Having his pageant there and making millions from it was no small thing either.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 27, 2016 03:21 PM (FOeaV)
735
If every R in every interview isn't pointing out the collusion between the Ds and the press revealed in the DNC emails, why the hell aren't they???? This is a perfect opportunity to sock them in the nose and rock them back on their heels.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
"Did you clear your questions with the DNC first or your editors first this time?"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
"Did you clear your questions with the DNC first or your editors first this time?"
Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2016 03:21 PM (z/Ubi)
736
Hello Instareaders! Sorry about the pants! Anybody doing IF? Any jerksock laundry tips? Does anyone have Winona Ryder's cell phone number? Talk at ya later!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (X/qvg)
737
"Did you clear your questions with the DNC first or your editors first this time?"
Posted by: buzzion
Yip.
"Did you clear your questions with the DNC first or your editors first this time?"
Posted by: buzzion
Yip.
Posted by: entity at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (326rv)
738
Eric Erickson thinks the Clinton's stayed faithful to their vows? I always thought he was kinda dumb but damn.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (LYCUN)
739
If Trump doing business with rich Russians is a bad thing, then what about Walmart buying stuff from China?
Or Apple having their products produced and assembled in chinese sweat shops at slave wages.
Meme fail. Apple good; end program.
If Trump doing business with rich Russians is a bad thing, then what about Walmart buying stuff from China?
Or Apple having their products produced and assembled in chinese sweat shops at slave wages.
Meme fail. Apple good; end program.
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (h/n4g)
740
David Burge @iowahawkblog
Dear Russian hackers, if you're listening:
1. Hillary's yoga routines & launch codes & whatnot
2. Trump's tax returns
3. Free Netflix hacks
#3 ftw
Netflix has been brutal in stopping the hacking...
Dear Russian hackers, if you're listening:
1. Hillary's yoga routines & launch codes & whatnot
2. Trump's tax returns
3. Free Netflix hacks
#3 ftw
Netflix has been brutal in stopping the hacking...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (qCMvj)
741
If Trump has 'Russian ties,' who the hell does Mrs. Clinton Global Initiative have ties to?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (PjWy4)
742
It could be anyone hacking and releasing the e-mails, including CIA or FBI or NSA or some other US intel guy(s) pissed off at Hillary's and Obama's and the Dems' behavior.
Posted by: davidt at July 27, 2016 03:22 PM (syn4Y)
743
Erickson.
Beck.
Williamson.
G. Will.
The rest of the NRO crowd.
It really is a war of all against all now.
A political season like no other in my memory. Masks fall, and new sides are chosen daily.
Beck.
Williamson.
G. Will.
The rest of the NRO crowd.
It really is a war of all against all now.
A political season like no other in my memory. Masks fall, and new sides are chosen daily.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2016 03:23 PM (kKHcp)
744
Man, I wonder how long it takes newbies to get the hang of this place, what with all the socks and memes and shenanigans and inside jokes and randomness and all.
I refuse to help.
I refuse to help.
Posted by: The Cyber-Leader's Earpiece at July 27, 2016 03:23 PM (u0s1P)
745
Erickson knows his career is over if Trump wins.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (UBzPO)
746
"510 Ace, it seems that you've basically adopted the left's viewpoint when it comes to public morality. I.e.,
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uAvJJ)"
Chemjeff, old friend, that's not the left's viewpoint. The left's viewpoint is "I'm an alcoholic/drug addict/sexual pervert and therefore I want alcoholism/drug addiction/sex perversion normalized. How dare you look at society as a whole, I'm special, you H8ers."Ace's point was that one should not pretend to be looking at "stuff I want" as "principles" because they aren't the same thing. Examine WHY you want something. Is it for you? Wait, look again, is it? Why? Virtue signaling counts as "for me."
"I am an alcoholic/drug addict/womanizer, so therefore I won't advocate others abstain from alcohol/drugs/infidelity, since I can't hold myself to these standards myself. So, go ahead and do whatever you want without any fear of moral scolding or reprimand at all."
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uAvJJ)"
Chemjeff, old friend, that's not the left's viewpoint. The left's viewpoint is "I'm an alcoholic/drug addict/sexual pervert and therefore I want alcoholism/drug addiction/sex perversion normalized. How dare you look at society as a whole, I'm special, you H8ers."Ace's point was that one should not pretend to be looking at "stuff I want" as "principles" because they aren't the same thing. Examine WHY you want something. Is it for you? Wait, look again, is it? Why? Virtue signaling counts as "for me."
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (eSQgj)
747
Having Erick Erickson on your side in a fight is like looking over to the other side of the landing craft on D-Day and seeing David Sirota.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (nhHaf)
748
Our journalists, an arm of the democratic party, would never have looked at this if the Russians and Wikileaks hadn't forced them to.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (+lVUW)
___________________________
You just had to mention arm didn't you????
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 27, 2016 03:15 PM (+lVUW)
___________________________
You just had to mention arm didn't you????
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 27, 2016 03:25 PM (HSmrB)
749
What's healthier Trump's three marriages or the Clinton's one?
Posted by: eleven at July 27, 2016 03:25 PM (qUNWi)
750
What pisses me off is ace coulda wrote that much about Ghostbusters.
Posted by: eleven at July 27, 2016 03:26 PM (qUNWi)
751
>> A political season like no other in my memory. Masks fall, and new
>> sides are chosen daily.
This is what a real Realignment actually looks like. Right on schedule in the Strauss and Howe theory stuff, too.
Our political system is broken (economic one, too, but that's all part of it). It is resetting itself.
The Shit Will Hit the Fan in a Reset.
>> sides are chosen daily.
This is what a real Realignment actually looks like. Right on schedule in the Strauss and Howe theory stuff, too.
Our political system is broken (economic one, too, but that's all part of it). It is resetting itself.
The Shit Will Hit the Fan in a Reset.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 27, 2016 03:27 PM (DW+jj)
752
675----But the left's position is that, set aside the whole 'legislating morality' thing, that public figures shouldn't even be scolding or shaming anyone. And Ace seems to have bought into this. It gives me a sadz.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (uAvJJ)
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That is NOT the Left's position, emphatically NOT.
Have you not noticed that the Left routinely, continuously scolds and shames us all? Raaaacist! Homophobe! Bigot! Sexist! Nazi! Fascist! Fat-shamer! Misogynist! Good Lord, it never stops.
The Left does not believe in shaming people for traditional immorality, not because they don't believe in shaming, but because they have a different morality/religion. To take but one, mundane example, they will shame you (and punish you) for vaping an e-cig but excoriate you for suggesting pot is not wonderful.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (uAvJJ)
-------------------------------
That is NOT the Left's position, emphatically NOT.
Have you not noticed that the Left routinely, continuously scolds and shames us all? Raaaacist! Homophobe! Bigot! Sexist! Nazi! Fascist! Fat-shamer! Misogynist! Good Lord, it never stops.
The Left does not believe in shaming people for traditional immorality, not because they don't believe in shaming, but because they have a different morality/religion. To take but one, mundane example, they will shame you (and punish you) for vaping an e-cig but excoriate you for suggesting pot is not wonderful.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 27, 2016 03:27 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Joe Happy at July 27, 2016 03:27 PM (h/n4g)
754
577 Trump didn't say he wouldn't defend just that he may not, depending on whether said country met its obligations. Saying we'd defend even deadbeats just means there's no partners in NATO just and deadbeats and the suckers who pay the bill.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
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Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person
I disagree. It's a big flashing green light to NATO to pay their share.
First of all Trump is not President yet and if he wins, then I guarantee you all NATO will be up to date and paid in full before he is sworn in, just like Tehran released the Hostages when Reagan was inaugurated. Its called negotiating and getting people to do what you want.
That's how people get free mud-mats with their new cars.
Its a good reason for those who feel exposed to meet their obligations.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 02:51 PM (kfcYC)
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Saying you "may not" defend makes NATO useless. NATO works because enemies are sure that if they attack, all of NATO (but mainly America) attacks them. What Trump said is a big, flashing green light to Putin.
Oh, and NGU. Trump's attitude towards Russia - he's stated it over and over. His surrogates, Gingrich and Manafort and others, have confirmed it. His business ties reinforce it. His entire attitude to government bolsters it.
Posted by: person
I disagree. It's a big flashing green light to NATO to pay their share.
First of all Trump is not President yet and if he wins, then I guarantee you all NATO will be up to date and paid in full before he is sworn in, just like Tehran released the Hostages when Reagan was inaugurated. Its called negotiating and getting people to do what you want.
That's how people get free mud-mats with their new cars.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 03:27 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 27, 2016 03:27 PM (8ZskC)
756
Trump: Anthony Weiner is a sleazeball and a pervert.
Um, yes. Is this going to be Trump's version of a daily affirmation?
Um, yes. Is this going to be Trump's version of a daily affirmation?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 27, 2016 03:28 PM (3ZoRf)
757
GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
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Now that is some quality bullshit.
-
Now that is some quality bullshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 27, 2016 03:28 PM (Nwg0u)
758
This is what a real Realignment actually looks like. Right on schedule in the Strauss and Howe theory stuff, too.
Our political system is broken (economic one, too, but that's all part of it). It is resetting itself.
---------
Go on ...
Our political system is broken (economic one, too, but that's all part of it). It is resetting itself.
---------
Go on ...
Posted by: SH at July 27, 2016 03:28 PM (gmeXX)
759
749 >> What's healthier Trump's three marriages or the Clinton's one?
Trump certainly gets along better with his exes than Hillary does with Bill's bimbos.
Trump certainly gets along better with his exes than Hillary does with Bill's bimbos.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2016 03:28 PM (gyKtp)
760
Erickson knows his career is over if Trump wins.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (UBzPO)
**
To think... I used to read his stuff whilst on the bowl.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (UBzPO)
**
To think... I used to read his stuff whilst on the bowl.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 27, 2016 03:29 PM (NpXoL)
761
nood hillary
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 27, 2016 03:30 PM (X+nFp)
762
Daily Beast:
Trump's Russia Hacker Comment May Be a Felony!!!!!
Holy shit that level of stupid is fucking EPIC !!!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (jjaLl)
Given that the federal government has made not following terms of service agreements a felony, Daily Beast is likely not wrong.
Trump's Russia Hacker Comment May Be a Felony!!!!!
Holy shit that level of stupid is fucking EPIC !!!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 27, 2016 03:14 PM (jjaLl)
Given that the federal government has made not following terms of service agreements a felony, Daily Beast is likely not wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2016 03:30 PM (3JA/M)
763
The Left does not believe in shaming people for traditional immorality, not because they don't believe in shaming, but because they have a different morality/religion.
And the Left's entire morality is written by politics, FOR politics. And is flexible, depending on politics. Any moralizing by a Leftist is simply posturing to win a political argument.
The Left does not believe in shaming people for traditional immorality, not because they don't believe in shaming, but because they have a different morality/religion.
And the Left's entire morality is written by politics, FOR politics. And is flexible, depending on politics. Any moralizing by a Leftist is simply posturing to win a political argument.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 27, 2016 03:30 PM (PjWy4)
764
Erik Ericson is now that nut from Little Green Footballs
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:31 PM (eSQgj)
765
"One's commitment to freedom -- of action, of thought, of speech, of joking around like a jackass -- is measured by the freedom one allows to others."
I guess this means the dirty words are back . . .
I guess this means the dirty words are back . . .
Posted by: simplemind at July 27, 2016 03:31 PM (JTwsP)
766
In Feb of last year, Trump promised to release his tax returns. He never mentioned any caveas about audits.
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (mFkVC)
Trump has said over and over that he cannot release his tax returns until the IRS audits are finished on the advice of his attorneys.
This has been talked about quite a few times on this blog alone.
Maybe you should start looking up your talking points before posting. There are literally hundreds of articles on line about Trump's tax returns and his not wanting to release them until his audits are done.
Here's one from not- Trump- friendly -NPR. Note that although it is legal to release tax returns , even NPR"s legal experts say they would advise the client not to do so.
http://tinyurl.com/jypt5oe
He repeated the promise over and over again.
Posted by: person at July 27, 2016 03:08 PM (mFkVC)
Trump has said over and over that he cannot release his tax returns until the IRS audits are finished on the advice of his attorneys.
This has been talked about quite a few times on this blog alone.
Maybe you should start looking up your talking points before posting. There are literally hundreds of articles on line about Trump's tax returns and his not wanting to release them until his audits are done.
Here's one from not- Trump- friendly -NPR. Note that although it is legal to release tax returns , even NPR"s legal experts say they would advise the client not to do so.
http://tinyurl.com/jypt5oe
Posted by: Jen the original at July 27, 2016 03:31 PM (Zz6ul)
767
743 Erickson.
Beck.
Williamson.
G. Will.
The rest of the NRO crowd.
It really is a war of all against all now.
A political season like no other in my memory. Masks fall, and new sides are chosen daily.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
Who needs Harry Reid to throw around baseless accusations when George Will , who can go fk himself as far as I'm concerned, is around. Hey George, how about the etymology of that phrase you pedantic jacka$s. His bow ties are the coolest thing about him. Aside from that, he's a great guy to bore you at a baseball game even more than you already are.
Beck.
Williamson.
G. Will.
The rest of the NRO crowd.
It really is a war of all against all now.
A political season like no other in my memory. Masks fall, and new sides are chosen daily.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
Who needs Harry Reid to throw around baseless accusations when George Will , who can go fk himself as far as I'm concerned, is around. Hey George, how about the etymology of that phrase you pedantic jacka$s. His bow ties are the coolest thing about him. Aside from that, he's a great guy to bore you at a baseball game even more than you already are.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 03:33 PM (kfcYC)
768
Why is this "person" troll being tolerated? For laughs?
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:33 PM (eSQgj)
769
But the left's position is that, set aside the whole 'legislating morality' thing, that public figures shouldn't even be scolding or shaming anyone. And Ace seems to have bought into this. It gives me a sadz.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (uAvJJ)
Ace is taking an absolutist position with respect to free speech, and you are somehow conflating that with "legislating morality"? You really have to up your game.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 27, 2016 03:09 PM (uAvJJ)
Ace is taking an absolutist position with respect to free speech, and you are somehow conflating that with "legislating morality"? You really have to up your game.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2016 03:36 PM (GSdpU)
770
757 GOP shouldn't be questioning the motives of keeping a marriage together. They kept a vow that Trump broke twice.
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Now that is some quality bullshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs
Agreed. Unless Bill vowed to harass and/or screw everything he sees whether they want to or not, I don't call what he did keeping a vow.
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Now that is some quality bullshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs
Agreed. Unless Bill vowed to harass and/or screw everything he sees whether they want to or not, I don't call what he did keeping a vow.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 27, 2016 03:36 PM (kfcYC)
771
>>>Ace's point was that one should not pretend to be looking at "stuff I want" as "principles" because they aren't the same thing. Examine WHY you want something. Is it for you? Wait, look again, is it? Why? Virtue signaling counts as "for me."
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (eSQgj)
Which pertains, I believe, to the moral narcissism of the Left. Their notions of principle are always invincibly wrapped up with ego.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 03:24 PM (eSQgj)
Which pertains, I believe, to the moral narcissism of the Left. Their notions of principle are always invincibly wrapped up with ego.
Posted by: Caliban at July 27, 2016 03:40 PM (DrC22)
772
Dagny slicing like a fucking hammer. Moar pleez.
Posted by: nip at July 27, 2016 03:42 PM (L5nkE)
773
Like him or hate him, Trump has changed the direction of the dem convention to a defensive mode. And on the day that Fredo and the Hildebeast speak. They have to spend time now to defend themselves instead of giving worthless lofty rhetoric.
Posted by: Soona at July 27, 2016 03:48 PM (Fmupd)
774
Pretty sure now Trump isn't an inside man for the demoncrats.
Pretty sure he's going to do everything he can think of to burn the witch. What he does after that . . . I have no idea.
Pretty sure he's going to do everything he can think of to burn the witch. What he does after that . . . I have no idea.
Posted by: simplemind at July 27, 2016 03:51 PM (JTwsP)
775
Absolutely great piece Ace. Once again, we are not worthy. Now pass the MD2020 cuz I want offer a slightly different scenario.
It is a 99% plus probability that Hillary's private server, including all the missing emails (and other information that a Microsoft email server keeps on hand) was hacked by somebody and most likely by many somebody's.
Given the Russians extreme expertise in this form of espionage one should assume they have the information whether they did the hacking or not.
Assume that Hillary found out sometime around the time the news of her private server came out. Perhaps after it became known she deleted some 30,000 emails instead of turning them over to government investigators.
Clinton Inc. along with King Obama would seek to find out who had hacked the system and who had the <cue echo effect> "Information-That-Must-Not-Be-Released".
Ergo, someone from Hillary-ville communicates/negotiates with someone from Hackerville, guaranteeing that *if* they do not release the info, Hillary will be 'very flexible' once she is elected.
The DNC is then hacked and info dumped and DWS is sacrificed-but-fails-up. Hillary's Campaign Good Squad which includes the MSM, undertake efforts to blame Putin and at the same time, paint Trump as un-American.
The DNC information dump is not a terminal threat to Hillary, especially given it's release now that leaves more than enough time to erase from the soft heads of Hillary-zombie voters.
Let's be real: This has Clinton Inc. written all over it and besides, Putin has far more to gain from Hillary as POTUS than from Trump.
It is a 99% plus probability that Hillary's private server, including all the missing emails (and other information that a Microsoft email server keeps on hand) was hacked by somebody and most likely by many somebody's.
Given the Russians extreme expertise in this form of espionage one should assume they have the information whether they did the hacking or not.
Assume that Hillary found out sometime around the time the news of her private server came out. Perhaps after it became known she deleted some 30,000 emails instead of turning them over to government investigators.
Clinton Inc. along with King Obama would seek to find out who had hacked the system and who had the <cue echo effect> "Information-That-Must-Not-Be-Released".
Ergo, someone from Hillary-ville communicates/negotiates with someone from Hackerville, guaranteeing that *if* they do not release the info, Hillary will be 'very flexible' once she is elected.
The DNC is then hacked and info dumped and DWS is sacrificed-but-fails-up. Hillary's Campaign Good Squad which includes the MSM, undertake efforts to blame Putin and at the same time, paint Trump as un-American.
The DNC information dump is not a terminal threat to Hillary, especially given it's release now that leaves more than enough time to erase from the soft heads of Hillary-zombie voters.
Let's be real: This has Clinton Inc. written all over it and besides, Putin has far more to gain from Hillary as POTUS than from Trump.
Posted by: DrDeano at July 27, 2016 04:35 PM (cP8Yw)
776
"764 Erik Ericson is now that nut from Little Green Footballs"
Now?
The scary part is "serious" Republicans paid court to this phony, self-promoting pseudo-Christian. Charlie Johnson was a virtue-signaling lib from the start who was briefly changed by 9/11.
The next we hear from of these Inbred Staters after November will involve little boy diddling, revival tents and pyramid schemes.
Now?
The scary part is "serious" Republicans paid court to this phony, self-promoting pseudo-Christian. Charlie Johnson was a virtue-signaling lib from the start who was briefly changed by 9/11.
The next we hear from of these Inbred Staters after November will involve little boy diddling, revival tents and pyramid schemes.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2016 04:49 PM (ran7R)
777
768: Hot Airian concern troll, I think.
Posted by: Jackal at July 27, 2016 05:04 PM (Lyh9/)
778
Ace, myself, anybody, should/must say whatever we want, or the freedom of speech is a mirage. Regardless of importance, and it must be protected, period. So, Ace, why this lengthy piece on your God-given rights? I read you everyday, and I do not agree on everything (Trump for instance), but hey! I give thanks that you exist! like the other bloggers in your website.
Posted by: kilroy at July 27, 2016 05:28 PM (SObsH)
779
Nice thread. No scolding, but some thoughts. Does the coarseness of everyday conversation have impact on the direction a society is trending. I suspect it does. "Frankly I don't give a damn." was scandalous decades ago, when our society was more orderly. I'm not suggesting it is the only cause of things like children without fathers, but that it is at least a indicator of the health of a society. IMHO.
Posted by: Duhgee at July 27, 2016 05:28 PM (7AivX)
780
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2016 04:49 PM (ran7R)
Actually, I have no idea, I've never read Erikson, don't know crap about him until this nevertrump-proHillary horseshit started.
Actually, I have no idea, I've never read Erikson, don't know crap about him until this nevertrump-proHillary horseshit started.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 05:28 PM (eSQgj)
781
I think the coarseness precedes the language, it does not follow it. Language tends to be created to describe events, not the reverse and has always done so.
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" was scandalous because it used a profanity, not an obscenity, in a nation that was largely Christian and who understood the religious inhibition regarding using "damn." As the secular religion took hold, "damn" lost all it's power because people didn't have the first clue why it had been an inadmissible word, ie that only God can damn and using the word was in opposition to a commandment.
The left has made major inroads because it speaks the demagogic language of the lofo left. The government educational system has ensured that any lofty thought is met with no comprehension. To combat that we must attempt to do some of the same. Unfortunate but true.
"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" was scandalous because it used a profanity, not an obscenity, in a nation that was largely Christian and who understood the religious inhibition regarding using "damn." As the secular religion took hold, "damn" lost all it's power because people didn't have the first clue why it had been an inadmissible word, ie that only God can damn and using the word was in opposition to a commandment.
The left has made major inroads because it speaks the demagogic language of the lofo left. The government educational system has ensured that any lofty thought is met with no comprehension. To combat that we must attempt to do some of the same. Unfortunate but true.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 05:35 PM (eSQgj)
782
Remember kiddies, this applies to abortion and gay marriage too. The abortion debate has been and remains one of the most obvious hypocritical conservative positions. You can believe in individual freedom. You can refuse to have an abortion. But if you believe in individual freedom, you cannot tell someone else that they cannot have an abortion. I disagree with abortion but I will not try to stop someone else from having one. I also disagree with gay marriage but individual freedom for all is more important than trying to restrict gay marriage. I will judge Trump on what he actually does. Everyone can be a loudmouth. Look where all of this carefully spoon-fed speech has gotten us.
Posted by: Richard at July 27, 2016 05:43 PM (Qkzna)
783
782 BS You can always be for not murdering others, especially innocents. That's just a standard "human" non-criminal-insanity position.
Posted by: dagny at July 27, 2016 05:54 PM (eSQgj)
784
dangy, I think you might be talking about one aspect of my topic, I'm not sure. I'm not talking about the creation of language, but the use of it. I cannot think of a society which kept it level of orderliness the same, whilst the daily conversation of average people got progressively worse. I think of other signals like obeying traffic rules, dressing in formal attire whenever out in public. I submit the "little" things actually matter.
Posted by: Duhgee at July 27, 2016 06:07 PM (7AivX)
785
Thus, the only remaining outcomes possible -- once "I hope the hack doesn't happen" has been mooted -- are the following:
1. Russia helps Hillary get elected, then holds blackmail material over her head to turn her into an Agent of Influence.
2. Russia rips Hillary and hurts her election prospects by revealing what she's concealed from no one at all, except the US courts and US public.
Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility.
Why is it Emotional Treason to think that Option 2 there sounds better than Option 1?
The fact that Russia has ALREADY hacked the info, and given the connections between Manafort and Putin's regime, and if we know that since Russia hacked Hillary/DNC we must assume therefore assume that they also hacked Trump/RNC info as well, the following happens:
Option (1) remains the same.
Option (2) means that Putin has Trump as his puppet, instead.
Neither are "better" options. THAT is what sucks about these two choices.
1. Russia helps Hillary get elected, then holds blackmail material over her head to turn her into an Agent of Influence.
2. Russia rips Hillary and hurts her election prospects by revealing what she's concealed from no one at all, except the US courts and US public.
Remember, "I hope Russia doesn't hack her at all" is gone as a possibility.
Why is it Emotional Treason to think that Option 2 there sounds better than Option 1?
The fact that Russia has ALREADY hacked the info, and given the connections between Manafort and Putin's regime, and if we know that since Russia hacked Hillary/DNC we must assume therefore assume that they also hacked Trump/RNC info as well, the following happens:
Option (1) remains the same.
Option (2) means that Putin has Trump as his puppet, instead.
Neither are "better" options. THAT is what sucks about these two choices.
Posted by: Trubador at July 27, 2016 07:14 PM (cqfax)
786
Can anyone tell me where to locate a server that Hillary used as SOS that is still active to hack. You cannot provide me that information. The FBI has her only server and it is not currently hackable.
So how can Trump advocate something that is not possible?
How can espionage occur in this case?
Hillary admitted.her deleted e-mails involved matters of national security.
Trump clarified by Twitter that any e-mails hacked should be given to the FBI.
Stupid Dems.
So how can Trump advocate something that is not possible?
How can espionage occur in this case?
Hillary admitted.her deleted e-mails involved matters of national security.
Trump clarified by Twitter that any e-mails hacked should be given to the FBI.
Stupid Dems.
Posted by: Arkansas Yankee (Never Ever Crooked, Nagging, Lying, Vindictive, Security Risk Hillary) at July 27, 2016 07:38 PM (Je4OY)
787
Haha, they be talkin emails and not whats his name vp..
Posted by: Garbone at July 27, 2016 08:35 PM (9dH/8)
788
Ace, you are becoming a philosopher king. Clear eyed at last!
Hope you and gang are well, would love to hear you on a podcast.
Hope you and gang are well, would love to hear you on a podcast.
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