Open Thread for Politics, News, and Misery [Y-not]

Here's an open thread for those of you who don't want to hang out on the Happiness thread which is posted above.

(Picture from here.)

Speaking of which, Deez Nuts is disappointed:

"I don't know what happened, because they are probably the two most disliked people they could have picked. Yet, the only two people that were favorable, John Kasich and Bernie Sanders," said Brady Olson, 16, trailing off as he shook his head slowly in disbelief.

Open thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 01:59 PM

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1 Hat trick

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 01:57 PM (bksJQ)

2 Never been another election like this one

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 01:58 PM (bksJQ)

3 I know the drill, I'll get the others

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 01:58 PM (bksJQ)

4 Hillary claims to have picked TK in order to help her ticket with men. Scott Adams claims it will have the exact opposite effect as a cackling bossy Hillary with Beta male TK will remind every male in America about every bad relationship they've ever had. LOL.

Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 02:02 PM (JGNQ+)

5 I think those poll results belong in the Happy Thread.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 24, 2016 02:02 PM (zc3Db)

6 Deez Nutz was a meme from the 1990s when Dre and Snoop were still a couple (f'rinstance it was a cheat code in the "Shadows of the Empire" game). I'm amused that it's a thing again.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:03 PM (6FqZa)

7 Fuck happiness.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)

8 Picking T.K. is the last good deed Hillary will have towards white guys.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 02:04 PM (bksJQ)

9 I think those poll results belong in the Happy Thread.

If that's a euphemism for "pudding"...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:04 PM (6FqZa)

10 I would vote for Doze Nutz. Deez Nutz is just annoying.

Posted by: AdamPM at July 24, 2016 02:04 PM (SXVyF)

11 Trump leading the PIAPS in the polls, what's not to be happy about?

Posted by: davidt at July 24, 2016 02:04 PM (ls97C)

12 Yet, the only two people that were favorable, John Kasich and Bernie
Sanders, said Brady Olson, 16, trailing off as he shook his head slowly
in disbelief.

While drooling all over his idiot self.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 02:05 PM (mpXpK)

13 Scott Adams blog:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/147847582386/clintons-vp-pick

Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 02:05 PM (JGNQ+)

14 I gotta say, the continued clownification of the NRO wing of the Republican Party makes me pretty happy.

Also, is the #DNCLeak getting their own thread at some point? Or did I just miss it? A lot of what we suspected about media/democrat collusion is being established as fact. Radio silence on CNN etc., of course.

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (1BdMd)

15 Hmm, happiness or misery? Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (sdi6R)

16 One of the weird candidates should probably be Victoria Claflin Woodhull. First woman to run for president. Also a, er, loon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (6FqZa)

17 11 Trump leading the PIAPS in the polls, what's not to be happy about?
Posted by: davidt at July 24, 2016 02:04 PM (ls97C)

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One has to consider the person who posted these threads.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (Fmupd)

18 Hapiness, meh. Who can be happy when things suck so badly?

Posted by: Pollyanna at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (0Ph0e)

19 So Deez Nuts won't be in the debate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 02:07 PM (IqV8l)

20 If the manner in which the media has covered the Wikileaks emails doesn't convince someone of their bias, I'm not sure what will.

They reveal that the DNC actively worked against Bernie Sanders.

They also indicate something about Ted Cruz. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but it doesn't look very good.

http://tinyurl.com/jj3a4gc

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 24, 2016 02:09 PM (H6376)

21 Sidebar says Trump drew less viewers than McCain and Romney for their acceptance speech.
Nielsen says he had more?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:09 PM (QPdNE)

22 So Deez Nuts won't be in the debate?

A modest post-debate bounce might lead to a rise in the polls.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:09 PM (6FqZa)

23 From previous thread about to be willowed.

292
262

thought she was all that because she bought an Acurite wireless weather thingy at Costco and put in batteries.

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Hey, I have one too!

Posted by: lindafell TEXIT!! at July 24, 2016 01:51 PM (xVgrA)

I
have an accurite one as well that I bought from Walmart. The temp
readings are significantly off from the La Cross devices, the Ambient,
and the local airports. I recommend the La Cross monitors which you can
get from Amazon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 02:01 PM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 02:13 PM (mpXpK)

24 Hillary claims to have picked TK in order to help her ticket with men. Scott Adams claims it will have the exact opposite effect as a cackling bossy Hillary with Beta male TK will remind every male in America about every bad relationship they've ever had. LOL.
Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 02:02 PM (JGNQ+)

Ha, Scott is probably right.

I didn't see Kaine's speech, but from what my husband told me and Hillary's tweet, he's going to be really going after the NRA. That'll make him seem even more beta. Try to ban all the fun things, you effete, out of touch scolds.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:13 PM (ozZau)

25 "I don't know what happened, because they are probably the two most disliked people they could have picked."
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Pretty obvious what happened. America hates its present regime, ideological as it is. The world is going to shit because out official policy is to make amends for past abuses of power when used against oligarchs and lefties (but I repeat myself) by hamstringing ourselves and promoting despotic rule. The economy has also gone to shit, after a steady eight year duet of ideological Progressive crap sandwiches.

America wants pragmatic politics, and Trump is totally practical and utilitarian in his approach. Hillary is a criminal mastermind, and seems pragmatic about everything else.

So that's what happened.

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (/m8T6)

26 21 Sidebar says Trump drew less viewers than McCain and Romney for their acceptance speech.
Nielsen says he had more?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:09 PM (QPdNE)

More people view events like these live streaming on their laptops, and later on youtube.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (H6376)

27 If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set himself up for 20, someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford. People have short memories and maybe it won't matter, but I voted for him in the primary and now I'm sorry I did.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

28 "Hillary claims to have picked TK in order to help her ticket with men. Scott Adams claims it will have the exact opposite effect as a cackling bossy Hillary with Beta male TK will remind every male in America about every bad relationship they've ever had. LOL."

Agreed. Hillary's Man Gap is bigger than Trump's Woman Gap. TK wears an apron. This will hurt with men.

Hillary's hope is that TK speaks Spanish so this will help with the Hispanic vote. I dunno. He and Hillary are all-in for Amnesty. Hillary wants to give Illegals ObamaCare, even though ObamaCare will already break the bank.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (bQxkN)

29 25 steady eight year dietof ideological Progressive crap sandwiches
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fat fingered typing. fixed.

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 02:16 PM (/m8T6)

30 Stumbled across this tweet.
From her pic she is a young beautiful black cop in Miami

@SabineRaymonvil
As a female black police officer I feel betrayed by Obama on all levels and that bitch Hillary is even worse. Defaulting to Trump. #MAGA!

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 02:18 PM (7lVbc)

31 So machete guy wasn't killed? That's always a mistake given how the legal system will handle them. The Belgian train terrorist, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, Nidal Hassan are all still alive.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 02:19 PM (0Ph0e)

32 I watched McCain in 2008. I don't remember whether I watched Romney in 2012. I didn't watch any of the convention this year. Like I said, speechifying isn't my thing.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 02:20 PM (sdi6R)

33 Wait until Billy BJ gets on stage with gheys BLM moms, not a copy in the country will vote for Hillary

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 02:20 PM (bksJQ)

34 Re: sidebar. Looks like Turkish prison hasn't changed much since Captain Oveur's day.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 02:21 PM (0Ph0e)

35 I swear the T and G keys are the same on my tablet

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 02:21 PM (bksJQ)

36 27 If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set himself up for 20, someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford. People have short memories and maybe it won't matter, but I voted for him in the primary and now I'm sorry I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)
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Cruz is both standing on principle AND making the only bet he can, that people will eventually regret the Trump moment and be drawn back to an actual Conservative. If he endorses, he becomes just another lap dog like Christie or Gingrich.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:22 PM (mFkVC)

37 Duke Lowell - me too.

I actually got to vote in that so-called "voterless election" here - somehow - where I voted for Cruz's delegates. But I did that in the hope they'd go for Trump or at least a nonweasel in the second round, not to flounce out before the vote was even had.

Yanno that "douche and turd" South Park episode, which ends with the mascot returning and Stan's dad saying "NOW your vote didn't matter"? That's what Colorado's brat pack did to us

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:22 PM (6FqZa)

38 If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set himself up for 20, someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford. People have short memories and maybe it won't matter, but I voted for him in the primary and now I'm sorry I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

Mark Levin says Reagan didn't endorse Ford. Maybe others have different knowledge of that. I don't care, because either way, I don't think he has any need to endorse a weirdo who is STILL spouting batshit crazy stuff about his dad. Hillary is evil but our nominee is mentally unstable. What a pair.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:23 PM (ozZau)

39 Reagan also made campaign appearances for Ford through the rest of the campaign.

This Cruz/Reagan thing strikes me as way overblown. What's the similarity, other than losing the nomination?

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 02:23 PM (/m8T6)

40 27 If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set himself up for 20, someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford. People have short memories and maybe it won't matter, but I voted for him in the primary and now I'm sorry I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

I voted for him as my Senator and I'm sorry I did. He's done nationally. This "vote your conscience" stuff is just an endorsement of the Nevertrump intransigence.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 24, 2016 02:25 PM (H6376)

41 Ford also wasn't a stooge of a hostile government who was actively signaling that our allies could be invaded and we wouldn't do anything.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:25 PM (mFkVC)

42 You may have noticed already, but for those wondering why certain news stories are being played down since the Dallas police ambush (terrorism, abroad and at home), be advised all news for the next three months is being run through one filter: Does it help Hillary Clinton? Does it hurt Donald Trump? Terrorism stories that used to dominate cable news for a week will likely disappear within a day now. And the MSM will double down on its refusal to acknowledge Islam as a factor, no matter how overtly apparent ir may be that Islam is definitely a factor.

Posted by: Bitsko, former MSM journalist at July 24, 2016 02:27 PM (e8vZr)

43 "I don't know what happened, because they are probably the two most disliked people they could have picked."

Two parties had different dynamics. The Inner Democratic Party picked Hillary before the race even started and then had all the superdelegates commit early, and used dirty tricks to keep any real competitors from entering the race. They had to let someone run for show and thought what harm could an old Jewish socialist cause?

The Inner Republican party wanted Jeb! and thought his family name and a boatload of money would clear the field. Didn't play out that way.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:28 PM (bQxkN)

44 Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:22 PM (mFkVC)

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You think Newt is a lap dog?not a huge fan, but I don't think that's how I would describe him, but YMMV. If Cruz couldn't endorse on principle then he should have declined the invitation to speak. Sends the same message without looking like a sore loser. Oh, and his whole I can't endorse someone who insulted my wife is weak sauce. They called Lincoln the original gorilla. He got over it. And no, I'm not comparing Trump to Lincoln.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:32 PM (kTF2Z)

45 "Does it help Hillary Clinton? Does it hurt Donald Trump?"

Spot on.

This morning the MSM spin was how Putin was leaking the DNC e-mails to help Trump, a fellow Authoritarian, and that Trump is even working in league with Putin to weaken NATO, etc etc. Kind of like Hitler and Mussolini, don't you see.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:32 PM (bQxkN)

46 Watching "Clinton Cash" on Breitbart, and I keep wondering "what does Hillary do with all this money?". I mean I know she's attempting to buy the presidency for herself, but what then? The money buys the power which in turn generates more money, but for what?

At least with a tin pot dictator it shows in the lavish palaces with solid gold toilets and private zoos.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 02:33 PM (jR7Wy)

47 43
The Inner Republican party wanted Jeb! and thought his family name and a boatload of money would clear the field. Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:28 PM (bQxkN)

They're awfully tone-deaf if they thought the American people would go for a third president from the same family. Even people who voted for W said "no effin' way". Not to mention that the Bush name is completely toxic to at least half of the population.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

48 Did anybody really believe Ted Cruz when he said he would abolish the IRS? I mean, it's a commendable goal, but entire fantasy when the debt count is nineteen trillion and counting. The country has to be run like a business and you don't kick your billing and collections department out on the street when you're wallowing in debt, with the wolves at the door.

I started out 100% Ted, but he and Glenn Beck, took turns shooting him in the foot.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 02:34 PM (ZnIt3)

49 Example advertisement by RR, in his effort on behalf of Ford:

http://tinyurl.com/jxljpwv

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 02:35 PM (/m8T6)

50 I really like how Trump not wanting to play brinksmanship games with Russia is super irresponsible. And also he's like Hitler.

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:36 PM (1BdMd)

51 They called Lincoln the original gorilla. He got over it.
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Sure, that was an insult to Lincoln himself. But a real man doesn't take shit like that about his wife and father, and no one should accept batshit crazy Alex Jones stuff from a presidential nominee.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:36 PM (ozZau)

52 Cucks!

Posted by: Vladimir at July 24, 2016 02:37 PM (dx6bM)

53 Ignoramus, your desription is perfect, and in it one sees just how degraded we are as a nation. One major party now operates like a corrupt big city political machine (and half the country idiotically follows along, many of them oblivious to any of the implications, even for themselves).

The other major party seems to wish it could be like the first one. And one might find hopeful indications in the fact that the two most "un-establishment" figures ran away with the primaries (everyone seems to ignore this).

Yet ..... 2010 and 2014 (and, in a way, 2012) showed that - perhaps - the overall inertia of the irresponsible and lawless status quo simply will not be moved, even by wave election results.

I think that's the case. The "press" has morphed, completely, into an information ministry for the lawless, racist, race-baiting, anti-constitutional, authoritarian status quo (in culture, politics, all major govt. institutions save tiny hold-out parts of the military). Together with the collapse of citizenship and civil literacy, game essentially over.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2016 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

54 Listening to Bernie Delegates Network press con today

They will protest even if Bernie asks them not to
They are disappointed and angry

The worstest candidate is Trump, but Bernie supporters reluctant to support Hillary coz of her actions & her contempt for progressives by selecting Kaine

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hz8342v

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 02:39 PM (7lVbc)

55 If Cruz couldn't endorse on principle then he should have declined the invitation to speak. Sends the same message without looking like a sore loser. Oh, and his whole I can't endorse someone who insulted my wife is weak sauce. They called Lincoln the original gorilla. He got over it. And no, I'm not comparing Trump to Lincoln.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:32 PM (kTF2Z)

Cruz told Trump when he was invited and again two days before the convention that he wouldn't endorse. It would have garnered much less notice if Trump's camp hadn't encouraged the Boos and then obsessed over it.

Candidates have been called a lot of awful things. That's fair game. What isn't fair game is to go after families. It happens - they attacked Andrew Jackson's wife, for instance, but it isn't and shouldn't be an accepted part of politics. And the particular attack on Cruz's father is madness with few precedents.

If Trump wins, we will desperately need Constituitonalists to stand up to him, because the GOPe has no intention of doing so and he himself has no regard for the founding principles of the nation. We need to bolster Cruz and Lee, not attack them.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:39 PM (mFkVC)

56 So, did someone from the MSM post this "dark" thread?

Posted by: Pam at July 24, 2016 02:39 PM (cF0hS)

57 At least with a tin pot dictator it shows in the lavish palaces with solid gold toilets and private zoos.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 02:33 PM (jR7Wy)

Good question. They do have two huge houses in areas with high real estate values, and Chelsea has a $10 million apartment in Manhattan. I think they also still freeload as much as possible, being ferried around on other people's private jets and such.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:40 PM (ozZau)

58 We should form some sort of alliance with Russia to fight against the jihadis. They're a common enemy.

Putin is a typical Russian strongman, but he's a long way from Stalin. He wants to Make Russia Great Again, so maybe Trump sees a kindred spirit in that sense.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 02:40 PM (sdi6R)

59
Sure, that was an insult to Lincoln himself. But a real man doesn't take shit like that about his wife and father, and no one should accept batshit crazy Alex Jones stuff from a presidential nominee.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:36 PM (

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They said some pretty awful things about Mary Todd Lincoln as well. My point is that this isn't new. It's also nothing compared to what the Clinton machine will unleash.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:42 PM (kTF2Z)

60 The lefty MSM, is building the narrative now that the "most underreported story of the convention was the Trump effort to change the platform to tone down criticism of Putin".

http://tinyurl.com/zdg2dab

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (/m8T6)

61
Hillary had an accident!

https://goo.gl/SoKpCc

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (iQIUe)

62 If Trump wins, we will desperately need Constituitonalists to stand up to him, because the GOPe has no intention of doing so and he himself has no regard for the founding principles of the nation. We need to bolster Cruz and Lee, not attack them.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:39 PM (mFkVC)

Which founding principle has Trump disregarded?
Serious question.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (QPdNE)

63 50 I really like how Trump not wanting to play brinksmanship games with Russia is super irresponsible. And also he's like Hitler.
Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:36 PM (1BdMd)
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1) Putin is looking to expand and is testing all of western Europe - he regularly stages incursions into UK and other ally's territories and has kidnapped Baltic citizens. he is expansionist. Not to play brinkmanship with him at the moment is to appease him.

2) Part of the reason Putin is being aggressive is that Obama looks weak. Trump looks weaker - or, to be exact, like a happy Putin stooge.

3) saying you MIGHT not defend NATO allies destroys the whole point of NATO. The idea is that if you invade one NATO nation, you are immediately at war with every NATO nation. That doesn't work if you say, "well, we'll check the balances and think about it..." That's a green light to Putin.

4) Estonia pays its share. Latvia and Lithuania pay closer to their share then Canada, Germany, etc. If you want to pressure them, you do it in back room meetings.

5) two years ago, most people on here would think someone with Trump's connections and attitudes about an enemy nation was pretty close to committing treason.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:45 PM (mFkVC)

64 Trump is even working in league with Putin to weaken NATO...

That's the biggest laugh of them all. Calling out the deadbeats to pay for their own defense is weakening NATO? The same nations that pay so little a percentage of their GDP probably have the most generous and affordable healthcare in the world.

Last night the wife was talking to an ER nurse at the largest hospital in the area who says the ER's are empty anymore because people are terrified of the huge deductibles they have to pay under 0bama Care.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 02:45 PM (ZnIt3)

65 If Trump wins, we will desperately need Constituitonalists to stand up to him, because the GOPe has no intention of doing so and he himself has no regard for th

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Not attacking Cruz, just pointing out that he could have been classier. Also, I agree we'll need constitutionalists to stand up to Trump. I suspect that congress will suddenly rediscover that they're a separate branch of the government.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:46 PM (kTF2Z)

66 We need to bolster Cruz and Lee, not attack them.
Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:39 PM (mFkVC)

Exactly. No matter which candidate wins, they'll be needed more than ever. The GOPe is taking this opportunity to work with Trump to stomp on the ones who want less cronyism and a more restrained government.

I mentioned on the other thread how Cruz won Iowa while saying he'd phase out ethanol mandates, which was a major breakthrough on this boondoggle, but Trump promised to require MORE ethanol.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:46 PM (ozZau)

67 I may not be the only one to have posted these, but,

Spastic Epilepsic?

http://tinyurl.com/hphybzq

In slow motion:

http://tinyurl.com/h9mgylt

Check the horrified look on the reporter's face at :31

Have a friend who had a concussion... He thinks he has insects and spiders crawling all over him... Other than that, he's normal.

Posted by: franksalterego at July 24, 2016 02:46 PM (Cd+Fa)

68 "Ford also wasn't a stooge of a hostile government who was actively
signaling that our allies could be invaded and we wouldn't do anything."

Concern noted. Virtue signalling noted.

What exactly would we do if the mooches and the fair-weather friends who are our NATO "allies" were invaded by Russia? More to the point, what *could* we do? Answer: very damned little.

We're back to something eerily similar to the Eisenhower "New Look" defense policies, where the nuclear stick was required to back up conventional forces which had been sharply cut back. Except that when Ike used that strategic model, the U.S. had clear nuclear superiority, something which Obama and his predecessors have traded away. The NATO mooches can't fill that gap either.

We're not going to start WWIII for the sake of the mooches and the fair-weather friends. No President is realistically going to do that.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (noWW6)

69 Which founding principle has Trump disregarded?
Serious question.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (QPdNE)

It's the one where we pledged to engage in permanent foreign alliances and entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice.

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (1BdMd)

70
If Trump wins, we will desperately need Constituitonalists [like Cruz] to stand up to him,
Posted by: person

http://tinyurl.com/zf883lc

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (kdS6q)

71 Ted Cruz planned, if nominated and elected, to adopt the Khmer Rouge's overall policies. Especially the thing about shooting or having teenagers suffocate (with plastic bags) all French-speakers and educated folk.

And I base that on the same facts and unavoidable implications that show Trump will be nothing but insane constitution-shredding, authoritarian trampling of everybody, and collusion with evil foreign despots at the expense of noble and valued US allies.

See, it's fun!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (QDnY+)

72 We should form some sort of alliance with Russia to fight against the jihadis. They're a common enemy.

Putin is a typical Russian strongman, but he's a long way from Stalin. He wants to Make Russia Great Again, so maybe Trump sees a kindred spirit in that sense.
Posted by: rickl

Putin cannot be trusted with the time of day. He is looking for every opportunity to revenge the death of the Soviet union and recreate it.

One of the greatest mistakes US pols and advisers make in regard to every fucking country on earth, is to assume that all peoples everywhere have the same motives, reasoning, goals as people the West do.

We almost experienced global nuclear war because of that pathological naivete.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 02:49 PM (VY8H5)

73 Vaping has been banned at the Dem Convention. But the good news is they didn't mention raping so that's still totes cool.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 24, 2016 02:49 PM (BZey7)

74 Which founding principle has Trump disregarded?
Serious question.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (QPdNE)

Off the top of my head: In favor of Kelo, which violates the fifth amendment.

Has said a few times someone shouldn't be "allowed" to say bad things about him. He said that of Rafael Cruz.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 02:49 PM (ozZau)

75 Which founding principle has Trump disregarded?
Serious question.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (QPdNE)
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Trump has shown little interest in or knowledge of the Constitution. When he brings it up - or is challenged on it, as Rand Paul did in the primary - he shows shocking ignorance.

Specifically, he has no concern with the division of powers or federalism. His view of the government is purely authoritarian, with all power resting in the executive.

On the most basic level, see how often you hear him say liberty, freedom, or mention the constitution.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:49 PM (mFkVC)

76
21 year old "refugee" attacks people in Reutlingen, Germany with a machete. Press silence...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:50 PM (iQIUe)

77 >>>We should form some sort of alliance with Russia to fight against the jihadis. They're a common enemy.

It would be nice if we had an administration that thought so, instead of viewing them as a new pool of potential voters.

It sucks being ruled by traitors and not being able to do anything about it.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 02:51 PM (0Ph0e)

78
Guy killed a woman and injured a bunch of others. How do I know? The krauts on twitter are complaining about it and the Swedish media is reporting it...for now:

http://goo.gl/TNRPIa

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:52 PM (iQIUe)

79 Last night the wife was talking to an ER nurse at the largest hospital in the area who says the ER's are empty anymore because people are terrified of the huge deductibles they have to pay under 0bama Care.
Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 02:45 PM (ZnIt3)
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Maybe pick a candidate who doesn't favor Obamacare, reject entitlement reform, and endorse taxpayer-sponsored daycare and other massive expansions of the government rather then offering our allies to anti-American dictators? Just a thought.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:52 PM (mFkVC)

80 Trump said about NATO the same thing Rumsfeld said in W's admin. Namely that member nations needed to start paying their obligations. Trump did not say to disband.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:52 PM (kTF2Z)

81 " "what does Hillary do with all this money?"

The Foundation was used to pre-game Hillary's campaign and to support an Adminstration-in-Waiting. So the money didn't all go directly into the Clinton's pockets.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:53 PM (bQxkN)

82 So far, Happiness is leading Misery by 2-1 in the number of comments. I wonder how much of that is simply because Happiness is the topmost thread. What would happen if their positions were switched right now?

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 02:53 PM (sdi6R)

83 69 Which founding principle has Trump disregarded?
Serious question.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 24, 2016 02:43 PM (QPdNE)

It's the one where we pledged to engage in permanent foreign alliances and entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice.
Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (1BdMd)

Yeah, caprice. Donald trump seems like the guy to end that.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 02:53 PM (dx6bM)

84 Have a friend who had a concussion... He thinks he has insects and spiders crawling all over him... Other than that, he's normal.

That's horrible. Is there any way to cure stuff like that? Besides a shitload of organmelting drugs?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:53 PM (6FqZa)

85 Trump's relentless assault on political correctness is a bigger practical push for liberty or freedom than anything the Republicans have put forth in the last ten years. Nobody's really interested in hearing the same abstract platitudes repeated for the nth time while left wing mobs are assaulting Republican gatherings with impunity and you can have your life destroyed if you post badthink to facebook.

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:54 PM (1BdMd)

86
In favor of Kelo, which violates the fifth amendment.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT

The Supreme Court would appear to disagree with your analysis of the case.

You should let them know, so they can fix that.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 02:54 PM (kdS6q)

87 Bloomburg goes in for Hillary...

Koch's are also said to be in for Hillary...

Interesting that ALL the establishment folks... all the people who made it in the existing crony system.... are in for Hillary...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 02:55 PM (qf6WZ)

88

Never trust a happy person.
They are up to something.

I plan to ignore the democrats, for at least a week, maybe longer.

Posted by: Not Sam at July 24, 2016 02:55 PM (Hf8X/)

89 I'm in a more doom and gloom mood today, I've got to say.

Posted by: Lauren at July 24, 2016 02:55 PM (K5LK6)

90 The Supreme Court would appear to disagree with your analysis of the case.

You should let them know, so they can fix that.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 02:54 PM (kdS6q)

the Supreme Court has jumped the shark so many times, they get frequent flyer miles...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 02:57 PM (qf6WZ)

91 Last night the wife was talking to an ER nurse at the largest hospital in the area who says the ER's are empty anymore because people are terrified of the huge deductibles they have to pay under 0bama Care.
Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 02:45 PM (ZnIt3)

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Right. People cant afford to go to the doctor under obama care. Such a deal!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:57 PM (iQIUe)

92 And I base that on the same facts and unavoidable implications that show Trump will be nothing but insane constitution-shredding, authoritarian trampling of everybody, and collusion with evil foreign despots at the expense of noble and valued US allies.

See, it's fun!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (QDnY+)
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You should probably listen to what Trump and his surrogates actually say.

Oh, and by the way, as to letting Putin have those silly "mooches" - Estonia is one of five nations that pays its share. And we benefit as much as most of Western Europe by not letting an expansionist, totalitarian dictator increase his power and decide that we are too weak to respond to his territorial expansions.

Oh, you want to get more money out of other nations? Negotiate with them in private - something Trump is supposed to be good at it. Don't repeatedly give a big green light to our enemies.

Republicans used to believe this. About a year and a half ago.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)

93 re huge deductibles - when I had my mini mental meltdown in April, which wasn't "AAA SPIDERS GET THEM OFF" bad, but was pretty bad - it cost me $1000 to get my heart looked at. And by "looked at" I mean they just put me on a treadmill with some electrodes wired around my chest.

In the bad old days of Bush II, and of second-term Clinton for that matter, the plan I got would have paid for that, and for less premiums. But because the market has been boned so hard by Olympia Snowe, Nancy Pelosi, and Barky deductibles are so high I may as well not be insured at all.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (6FqZa)

94 Maybe pick a candidate who doesn't favor Obamacare, reject entitlement reform, and endorse taxpayer-sponsored daycare and other massive expansions of the government rather then offering our allies to anti-American dictators? Just a thought.
Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:52 PM (mFkVC)

****

You are a little late for this to occur.

Can I ask what you hope to accomplish with the non stop Trump bashing? Seriously, what is your end goal with all of this?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (YLidQ)

95 87 Bloomburg goes in for Hillary...

Koch's are also said to be in for Hillary...

Interesting that ALL the establishment folks... all the people who made it in the existing crony system.... are in for Hillary...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 02:55 PM (qf6WZ)

Wow.that includes Donald Trump.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (dx6bM)

96 "The "press" has morphed, completely, into an information ministry for the lawless, racist, race-baiting, anti-constitutional, authoritarian status quo"

I hate them even more than the politicians. The Ben Rhodes thing showed that the Obamans don't think of them as fellow travelers, but mere useful idiots.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (bQxkN)

97

Ok, after scanning portions of the tread, I'm going to ignore the Trump haters too.

Ok, I'm going to ignore everyone, for at least a week.

Posted by: Not Sam at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (Hf8X/)

98
Last night the wife was talking to an ER nurse at the largest hospital in the area who says the ER's are empty anymore because people are terrified of the huge deductibles they have to pay under 0bama Care.
Posted by: free range conservative

Well, they used to complain that people were using the ER as a primary care facility.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 02:58 PM (IqV8l)

99 How does that stupid song go? Worry....Don't be happy!

Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2016 02:59 PM (9iR5/)

100 A couple of days ago, the Russians took out the airbase we were using to bomb ISIS. The commies are not our friends.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:59 PM (iQIUe)

101 I voted for Cruz in Wi. primary, and I'm NOT sorry.
One can only judge a mans character and mindset by what they've shown to that point. If facts later appear that lessen one's opinion of another, well, that is because they are human.
He did what he did at the convention and only time will tell if it hurts or helps him personally. It probably hurt Trump a little, but there's so much time until Nov. that plenty of events and words will have buried this by then, at least in the minds of most voters.

Which brings me to one other little quibble, concerning history.

We're bringing up the actions of individuals in the past (like Reagan and his endorsement or nonendorsement of Ford) to what, try to gain insight into the future?
Not gonna happen.
If we are to learn from history, we need to look at macro, not micro. This is just one Morons opinion, btw.

Is islam violent?
Let's review the tape of the last 1400 years! Yes, it is.

Will Mohammed abadabbado binSalami go jihadi next week?
Who the hell knows.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 02:59 PM (kKHcp)

102 85 Trump's relentless assault on political correctness is a bigger practical push for liberty or freedom than anything the Republicans have put forth in the last ten years.
Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:54 PM (1BdMd)
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This is nonsense. The only political correctness he cares about is his own right to be rude, because he is a horrible narcissist.

When it comes to defending others for being "politically incorrect," he reverts to the standard liberal line. Look up his comments on Scalia, Gellar, the Kentucky clerk, and the NC bathroom laws for evidence.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:00 PM (mFkVC)

103 Clinton Cash movie is streaming now if you haven't seen it yet

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:00 PM (7lVbc)

104 And we benefit as much as most of Western Europe by not letting an expansionist, totalitarian dictator increase his power and decide that we are too weak to respond to his territorial expansions.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 02:57 PM (mFkVC)

Perhaps you have not been following the history of the EU for the last 20 years?

Russia is more of a Democracy than the EU.
Russia has about equal Freedom of Speech to the EU.
EU has expanded all the way to the Russian border.
EU is in the process of creating an EU Army.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 03:01 PM (qf6WZ)

105
Oh, wow, machete guy killed a pregnant woman. He was stopped when a drove by and deliberately hit him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (iQIUe)

106 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

107 The Clinton Cash movie temporarily free on youtube ?

youtube.com/watch?v=td2pyyCau30

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:03 PM (VY8H5)

108 The Supreme Court would appear to disagree with your analysis of the case.

You should let them know, so they can fix that.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 02:54 PM (kdS6q)

This is what's one of the worst things about Trumpism. it would be ok if we were just voting for him because he's un-PC, and he can beat Hillary, whatever, but now we have Republicans actually rejecting the constitution.

You agree with Kennedy, Ginsburg, Souter and Breyer over the dissent of Thomas, Scalia, O'Connor and Renquist.

Kelo was an outrage to conservatives when it was decided, and it still should be, but now in the Name of MrTrump people are actually defending it. It's shocking, frankly.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:03 PM (ozZau)

109 100 A couple of days ago, the Russians took out the airbase we were using to bomb ISIS. The commies are not our friends.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 02:59 PM (iQIUe)

It was not the Russians who stopped the bombing of ISIS from one of our airfields..... it was Turkey.

They did bomb a base of our 'allies' in Syria, which had been used as a forward Spec Ops Base...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 03:04 PM (qf6WZ)

110 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

****

Good luck with that. They are pathological. The good news is that their numbers are insignificant.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:04 PM (YLidQ)

111 Gotta love it when Deez Nuts is polling higher than the entire Bush dynasty. Suck it up, Buttercups!

Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2016 03:05 PM (WYh6/)

112 Russia is more of a Democracy than the EU.
Russia has about equal Freedom of Speech to the EU.
EU has expanded all the way to the Russian border.
EU is in the process of creating an EU Army.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 03:01 PM (qf6WZ)
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This is absurd Putinist nonsense.

For starters, which reporters and politicians has the EU murdered?

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:05 PM (mFkVC)

113 Well, they used to complain that people were using the ER as a primary care facility.Posted by:�Bertram Cabot Jr.�

Completely true.

Now they complain it's empty. Maybe there might be some sort of system were the market determined the value of a trip to the emergency room.

I'm just spitballing here, of course.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:06 PM (ZnIt3)

114 Kelo was an outrage to conservatives when it was decided, and it still should be, but now in the Name of MrTrump people are actually defending it. It's shocking, frankly.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:03 PM (ozZau)

****

I see support for Eminant Domain. Not so much for Kelo specifically.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:06 PM (YLidQ)

115 The anti-PC thing is definitely one of my biggest attractions to Trump. It needs to be pushed back against relentlessly, and he seems to be pretty good at it. Maybe if he wins, he will make it fashionable to do so. That would be a yuge positive effect of a Trump presidency.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:06 PM (sdi6R)

116
the Supreme Court has jumped the shark so many times, they get frequent flyer miles...
Posted by: Don Q.

Natch.

One can say they don't like a SC ruling, or would like legislation or an amendment to correct a SC ruling, but saying a ruling is "unconstitutional" after the Court has ruled otherwise gives one nothing to stand on besides "feelz".

Also, note the irony of those claiming Trump will be a dictator that won't follow the law, criticizing him for -- wanting to follow the law.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:07 PM (kdS6q)

117 110 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

****

Good luck with that. They are pathological. The good news is that their numbers are insignificant.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:04 PM (YLidQ)

Hey maybe "mr" trump could invest 20 million in that effort. I don't give a shit anymore. Let it burn, right?

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:07 PM (dx6bM)

118
Believe it or not, you can be a 'true conservative' and disagree with other 'true conservative' about 'true conservatism.'

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:08 PM (iQIUe)

119 Russia has about equal Freedom of Speech to the EU.

Analysis: true. This is what happens when you object to refugees in Merkelstan:
http://tinyurl.com/jgwe5gd

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 03:08 PM (6FqZa)

120 Believe it or not, you can be a 'true conservative' and disagree with other 'true conservative' about 'true conservatism.'
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:08 PM (iQIUe)

Long bows

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:08 PM (7lVbc)

121 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

I don't start it. I only jump in when I see what I consider an unfair attack, and I take the opportunity to rebut it.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:09 PM (ozZau)

122 Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:05 PM (mFkVC)

You're high energy today. I like that. Good luck with the Great Crusade against Russia.

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 03:09 PM (1BdMd)

123 I never did understand what a "true conservative" was compared to a mere "conservative".

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:10 PM (sdi6R)

124 BMW stock seems to be going up around here. Who'd have thunk.
Which reminds me, there was a motorcyclist who clumb-aboard that truck in Nice. And not a single news outlet reported what kind of bike he was riding.
Things like that are important to me.

As it turns out, Che, Sacco, Vanzetti and I all rode Nortons.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 24, 2016 03:10 PM (tIja6)

125 "Oh, and by the way, as to letting Putin have those silly 'mooches' - Estonia is one of five nations that pays its share."

Estonia's so small that its contributions are a rounding error. That sucks, as the Estonians are a brave little people who have suffered a lot. It's also the hard truth.

I repeat: the only way to keep the Russians out of Europe proper, should the Russians attempt to annex more parts of Europe proper, is now thermonuclear brinksmanship.

No modern President will do that. Especially not after they get the embarrassed, shuffling-footed briefing from the Pentagon about how reduced the American strategic nuclear advantage has become relative to Russia.

A lot of that is Obama, and much is due to Clinton, but really the stupidity goes across party lines. The GOP establishment were all in for the idiotic New START treaty. Dubya Bush had his Javert-like preoccupation with Mideastern whack-a-mole and neglected all other military matters. Poppy Bush started slashing conventional force structure in Europe even before the Cold War officially wrapped up. Yay uniparty wisdom.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:10 PM (noWW6)

126 I see support for Eminant Domain. Not so much for Kelo specifically.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:06 PM (YLidQ)

No, I have seen actual support for Kelo, which is abuse of eminent domain.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:10 PM (ozZau)

127
The press has already declared the motive of the syrian refugee chopping the poor pregnant woman to death at the bus stop and injuring several others as "unknown."

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:11 PM (iQIUe)

128 Sidebar says Trump drew less viewers than McCain and Romney for their acceptance speech.
Nielsen says he had more?
The one Twitter update Y-Not linked corrects its figures right away (Politico one); and the CNN one has twitter commenters pointing out right away that the figures CNN used didn't include ALL TV sources, just the MSM networks. Adding in CSPAN et alia gives another 2.2 million viewers beating the 2012 figures for Romney.

The figures also don't point out people watching online (that's what happened at the HQ wasn't it? that there was a livestream linked in the page?); or take into account that there were also parties of people watching together in basements etc. (Somehow I doubt anyone had a Romney Speech party in their basement in 2012.)

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 03:11 PM (LdMbv)

129 "Long bows"

Rabbit season!

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:11 PM (noWW6)

130 It's the one where we pledged to engage in permanent foreign alliances and entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice.
Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at July 24, 2016 02:47 PM (1BdMd)

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Too late. You know, like since 1914.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:12 PM (Fmupd)

131 FFS, of all the SCOTUS opinions to harp on, why Kelo?

Kelo is code for I hate Trump but I want to make myself sound Constitutionally principled so let me make a BS argument.

Kelo got decided in 2005. Has there been a wave of developers throwing grandmas out on the street? Since 2005 how many millions of illegals have come in with the active assistance of our federal government flouting duly enacted laws?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (bQxkN)

132 I stopped listening to The Federalist podcasts because the #nevertrump never stops.

Steven Crowder describes John Kasich as the guy who brings Zima to a party.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (VdICR)

133 Good luck with the Great Crusade against Russia.

Best scenario is I suppose something like the Fourth Crusade against Constantinople, where they set up a weak puppet to run the place in accordance to Western whimsy.

I hate to give out spoilers on how that turned out for everyone, but . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (6FqZa)

134
Kelo was an outrage
Posted by: stace...TEXIT

If so, start the impeachment process against the justices that voted for the "outrage". Or is that another constitutional, as in "it's in the actual constitution", constitutional process one feels they have no need to follow?

Can't bitch about about Trump not wanting to follow the Constitution when you don't.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (kdS6q)

135 Believe it or not, you can be a 'true conservative' and disagree with other 'true conservative' about 'true conservatism.'
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:08 PM (iQIUe)

Absolutely, but here's a little tip: if you are thinking that Ginsburg, Breyer and Souter are more correct on an issue than Scalia and Thomas, then ur doin' it wrong. Most likely, anyway.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (ozZau)

136 Looks like it's going to be 100 degrees tomorrow in Philadelphia for opening day of the coronation. I just don't see 50, 000 protesters standing around in that heat to protest for BLM or free college tuition, whatever.

Soros is gonna have to get out the checkbook to get people to stand in Philly streets under those conditions. Which he won't.

So the MSM will talk about how the party is united!

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (ZnIt3)

137 I repeat: the only way to keep the Russians out of Europe proper, should the Russians attempt to annex more parts of Europe proper, is now thermonuclear brinksmanship.

No modern President will do that. Especially not after they get the embarrassed, shuffling-footed briefing from the Pentagon about how reduced the American strategic nuclear advantage has become relative to Russia.

A lot of that is Obama, and much is due to Clinton, but really the stupidity goes across party lines. The GOP establishment were all in for the idiotic New START treaty. Dubya Bush had his Javert-like preoccupation with Mideastern whack-a-mole and neglected all other military matters. Poppy Bush started slashing conventional force structure in Europe even before the Cold War officially wrapped up. Yay uniparty wisdom.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:10 PM (noWW6)

The solution is to try and fix this problem, not to repeatedly signal to an avaricious dictator that he should go ahead and help himself to whatever he likes.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:14 PM (mFkVC)

138 Hey maybe "mr" trump could invest 20 million in that effort. I don't give a shit anymore. Let it burn, right?
Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:07 PM (dx6bM)

If you don't give a shit, I guess that means you attack neither Trump nor Clinton at all, right?
I understand that - sometimes just walking away is the way to save one's sanity.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:14 PM (7lVbc)

139 I watched the speeches on you tube in real-time. There were no talking heads in the foreground, so it was superior to the cable TV experience. The rating are going to continue to go down over the years regardless of the level of interest.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 03:15 PM (VdICR)

140 84?

Please, don't take anything I say seriously.

Posted by: franksalterego at July 24, 2016 03:16 PM (Cd+Fa)

141 Speaking of Russia, I did not know until watching Clintn Cash last night that Hillary handed Putin control of 20% of our uranium supply.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:16 PM (7lVbc)

142 This is absurd Putinist nonsense.

For starters, which reporters and politicians has the EU murdered?

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:05 PM (mFkVC)

I note you change the subject, vice answering the points...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 03:17 PM (qf6WZ)

143 Just flipped over to the race and wow, there's a ton of empty seats. Nice job NASCAR! Way to kill your sport.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 03:18 PM (kTF2Z)

144 Steven Crowder describes John Kasich as the guy who brings Zima to a party.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

If you could find Zima now, you'd be a hipster hero.

SO, no. Kat-sick is the guy who insists e'rryone try his hot chocolate ice cream in the middle of a heat wave.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:18 PM (VY8H5)

145 138 Hey maybe "mr" trump could invest 20 million in that effort. I don't give a shit anymore. Let it burn, right?
Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:07 PM (dx6bM)

If you don't give a shit, I guess that means you attack neither Trump nor Clinton at all, right?
I understand that - sometimes just walking away is the way to save one's sanity.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:14 PM (7lVbc)

Sincere thanks for that. No: I will attack any progressive within reach of power. That is Bernie. That is Hillary. That is Donald Trump.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:19 PM (dx6bM)

146 "(Somehow I doubt anyone had a Romney Speech party in their basement in 2012.)"

I was thinking about holding one with nonalcoholic punch and cookies.

Then I thought the better of it and went out and got shitfaced instead.

"I'm a severe conservative," vows the guy who not all that long before had run against Ted Kennedy from the left. Snort.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:19 PM (noWW6)

147 If so, start the impeachment process against the justices that voted for the "outrage". Or is that another constitutional, as in "it's in the actual constitution", constitutional process one feels they have no need to follow?

Can't bitch about about Trump not wanting to follow the Constitution when you don't.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (kdS6q)

That is pathetic and irrational.
To say that by failing to start impeachment of the justices I'm not following the constitution is insane.

In response to the Kelo decision, 42 states passed legislation restricting the use of eminent domain. THAT'S how bad it was. I guess they are all violating the constitution too.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:19 PM (ozZau)

148 I note you change the subject, vice answering the points...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 03:17 PM (qf6WZ)

See, I generally think the government murdering people who say things they don't like is a violation of freedom of speech. Silly of me, I suppose.

Oh, and you're arguing for Russia as any kind of a "democracy."

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:20 PM (mFkVC)

149 136 Looks like it's going to be 100 degrees tomorrow in Philadelphia for opening day of the coronation. I just don't see 50, 000 protesters standing around in that heat to protest for BLM or free college tuition, whatever.

Soros is gonna have to get out the checkbook to get people to stand in Philly streets under those conditions. Which he won't.

So the MSM will talk about how the party is united!
Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:13 PM (ZnIt3)

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Nighttime is better. That's when we might see all the demonstrations. It's also when the convention is actually in session. Nothing big ever happens during the day.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:21 PM (Fmupd)

150
If you could find Zima now, you'd be a hipster hero.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

"Wouldst m'lady fair care for another Orbitz-colada?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:22 PM (kdS6q)

151 146 "(Somehow I doubt anyone had a Romney Speech party in their basement in 2012.)"

I was thinking about holding one with nonalcoholic punch and cookies.

Then I thought the better of it and went out and got shitfaced instead.

"I'm a severe conservative," vows the guy who not all that long before had run against Ted Kennedy from the left. Snort.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:19 PM (noWW6)

Ha ha . Why would a R run to the left of a D? Oh...

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (dx6bM)

152 Current score:

Happiness 193
Misery 150

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (sdi6R)

153 Speaking of Russia, I did not know until watching Clintn Cash last night that Hillary handed Putin control of 20% of our uranium supply.Posted by:�@votermom�

Putin probably turned around and sold it to North Korea and Iran for a profit, then kicked back 10% to Milo Minderbender aka the Clinton Syndicate who bought Egyptian cotton, to be coated in chocolate and handed out to voters on election day.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (ZnIt3)

154 >>>Kat-sick is the guy who insists e'rryone try his hot chocolate ice cream in the middle of a heat wave.<<<

Kasich is the kind of guy who shovels an entire big mac in his mouth and tries to recite the Gettysburg address because he's just yukking it up with his pals.

Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (WYh6/)

155 "Just flipped over to the race and wow, there's a ton of empty seats. Nice job NASCAR! Way to kill your sport."

I'm wondering if new motorsport leagues are going to arise, something along the lines of the rocket rise of mixed martial arts displacing a lot of boxing.

Boxing got boring and too obviously fixed. The audience left.

With NASCAR, a lot of it was originally about rebellious regional subculture. The moonshiner roots and the Confederate flags. Then the corporate suits purged all that for blandness and rainbow flags. Wanna bet whatever replaces NASCAR is more friendly to outlaw imagery?

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (noWW6)

156 Forget it, Jack. It's Massachusetts.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:24 PM (sdi6R)

157
That is pathetic and irrational.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT

I'm not the one raging that once the Supreme Court has declared something Constitutional that it still isn't.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:24 PM (kdS6q)

158 I can also play a mean game of wine-cooler-pong.

Posted by: John Kasich at July 24, 2016 03:25 PM (MNzex)

159
Gloom Despair And Agony On Me

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkzE23pyME4

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:25 PM (kdS6q)

160 "Believe it or not, you can be a 'true conservative' and disagree with other 'true conservative' about 'true conservatism."

There are a lot of neverTrumpers who style themselves as True Conservatives, but the way they define it is a version on the "no true Scotsman fallacy" so they wind up in their own little Private Idaho, politically.

It's a tell if you hear someone say that Kelo is unconstitutional. You can't reason with them. If you're trying to build a viable political coalition they're next to worthless to chase as a potential voter.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:26 PM (bQxkN)

161 "143 Just flipped over to the race and wow, there's a ton of empty seats. Nice job NASCAR! Way to kill your sport."

NASCAR's not dead. It's resting. Pining for the fiords.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2016 03:26 PM (97XyN)

162
152 Current score:

Happiness 193
Misery 150
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (sdi6R)

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Misery is catching up. All is not lost.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:26 PM (Fmupd)

163 I'm not the one raging that once the Supreme Court has declared something Constitutional that it still isn't.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:24 PM (kdS6q)

That's nuts. SCOTUS has made a lot of unconstitutional decisions.

If you think Ginsburg has a better take on the constitution (or almost anything), than Scalia and Thomas, there is no help for you.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (ozZau)

164 Speaking of Russia, I did not know until watching Clinton Cash last night that Hillary handed Putin control of 20% of our uranium supply.
Yes, through a Canadian mining company but that's okay because it involved Clinton and the Russians and not evil Trump.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (LdMbv)

165 154 >>>Kat-sick is the guy who insists e'rryone try his hot chocolate ice cream in the middle of a heat wave.

Kasich is the kind of guy who shovels an entire big mac in his mouth and tries to recite the Gettysburg address because he's just yukking it up with his pals.
Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2016 03:23 PM (WYh6/)

You know one of this people too?

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (dx6bM)

166
Misery is catching up. All is not lost.
Posted by: Soona

Yes it is.

Misery++

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (kdS6q)

167 Like the g-spot, happiness is a myth.

Posted by: Bah! at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (oifcv)

168 This is nonsense. The only political correctness he cares about is his own right to be rude, because he is a horrible narcissist.

person, you are conflating Trump's personal motivations with the practical effect he has. Sloppy. I think it was Friedman who said it's futile to wait for a virtuous politician. Settle for those who will have a beneficial effect.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (0Ph0e)

169 Regarding Romney's "severe conservative" remark: First of all, I thought it was idiotic. Who talks like that? I've never heard anyone use that phrase before.

Second of all, I don't exactly think it helped win over moderates and independents. You know, the people who decide elections.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:28 PM (sdi6R)

170 "Speaking of Russia, I did not know until watching Clintn Cash last night that Hillary handed Putin control of 20% of our uranium supply."

IIRC there was a follow-on deal that made it 50%

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:28 PM (bQxkN)

171 I'm also the guy that brings a game of Twister and a few boxes of Jello to stag parties.

Yep, that's me.

Posted by: John Kasich at July 24, 2016 03:29 PM (MNzex)

172 160 "Believe it or not, you can be a 'true conservative' and disagree with other 'true conservative' about 'true conservatism."

There are a lot of neverTrumpers who style themselves as True Conservatives, but the way they define it is a version on the "no true Scotsman fallacy" so they wind up in their own little Private Idaho, politically.

It's a tell if you hear someone say that Kelo is unconstitutional. You can't reason with them. If you're trying to build a viable political coalition they're next to worthless to chase as a potential voter.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:26 PM (bQxkN)

Kind of like those people who bitch about John Roberts

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:30 PM (dx6bM)

173 IIRC there was a follow-on deal that made it 50%
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:28 PM (bQxkN)

***

Yes, and I believe it was brokered by Scankles brother.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (YLidQ)

174 After that seizure she had that is going viral, I don't think we will make it to the elections.

Obama will unleash the Muslims for operation choas in the states.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (oifcv)

175 This is nonsense. The only political correctness he cares about is his own right to be rude, because he is a horrible narcissist.

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All politicians are narcissists.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

176 Yes, through a Canadian mining company but that's okay because it involved Clinton and the Russians and not evil Trump.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (LdMbv)
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Nah, that's terrible too. But my impression is that Clinton is generally amoral and corrupt rather then specifically being a Putin stooge like Trump. What a choice!

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 03:32 PM (mFkVC)

177
SCOTUS has made a lot of unconstitutional decisions.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT

The established process, for over 200 years, is that the Supreme Court has the power of judicial review. That doesn't change just because now you don't likes it no mores.

Think different? Go get congress and the states to pass a constitutional amendment. And -- speaking of which -- has noted Harvard grad and admitted to the SC Bar Tedward Cruz done anything about this "outrage"? He propose an amendment or something?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:33 PM (kdS6q)

178 175 This is nonsense. The only political correctness he cares about is his own right to be rude, because he is a horrible narcissist.

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All politicians are narcissists.
Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

Not the ones who successfully con their base

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:34 PM (dx6bM)

179 *boiled* chocolate ice cream would have made more sense ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:35 PM (VY8H5)

180 I'm voting for Trump but I admit I wish he were more conservative.
But he's a million times better than Hillary or Bernie.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:36 PM (7lVbc)

181 177
SCOTUS has made a lot of unconstitutional decisions.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT

The established process, for over 200 years, is that the Supreme Court has the power of judicial review. That doesn't change just because now you don't likes it no mores.

Think different? Go get congress and the states to pass a constitutional amendment. And -- speaking of which -- has noted Harvard grad and admitted to the SC Bar Tedward Cruz done anything about this "outrage"? He propose an amendment or something?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:33 PM (kdS6q)

Maybe we should have a talk about ObamaCare and John Roberts. Actually, we can wait to discuss the much better "trump care".

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:36 PM (dx6bM)

182 After that seizure she had that is going viral, I don't think we will make it to the elections.

Obama will unleash the Muslims for operation choas in the states.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (oifcv)

Is that video actually going viral?
I watched yesterday for the first time, and if I were undecided, that would be a game changer. But I'm not, so my interpretations are suspect.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 03:37 PM (kKHcp)

183 173 IIRC there was a follow-on deal that made it 50%
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:28 PM (bQxkN)

***

Yes, and I believe it was brokered by Scankles brother.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (YLidQ)

There used to be a word that described that sort of thing. I believe it started with a "T".

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:37 PM (sdi6R)

184 So the entire American power and money structure is now allied against Trump. I judge candidates by their enemies. He really had these people scared. I have one longtime GOP bigwig fundraiser on my FB feed and he has completely lost his mind. I really don't understand what they are so afraid of unless it is that they stand to lose all their power and access.

Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 03:38 PM (aqA37)

185 I havent had television in over a decade. I watch things online. A good number of people watch news/events on their computer, smartphones or I pads.

ProTip: the left always lies and spins and frames.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:38 PM (iQIUe)

186 Latest count:

Happiness -- 225

Misery -- 181

Come on, people. Step it up a notch.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:39 PM (Fmupd)

187 180 I'm voting for Trump but I admit I wish he were more conservative.
But he's a million times better than Hillary or Bernie.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:36 PM (7lVbc)

And I respect that. Problem is that Trump sold himself as te "anti-establishment" guy. For many, it seems, the establishment was too conservative or even too republican.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:40 PM (dx6bM)

188
Ugh. Hijabs and burkhas in Vienna swimming pools.

https://goo.gl/u23tZn

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:40 PM (iQIUe)

189 After that seizure she had that is going viral, I don't think we will make it to the elections.

--

I sawa version of it from the back (someone who was behind / to her left filming it) and you can really tell that the first set of head movements are different from the second.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:41 PM (7lVbc)

190

Leonard Cohen - Everybody Knows

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:41 PM (kdS6q)

191 Remember when the left bitched and moaned that polls were unreliable bc they were conducted on landlines and they new and improved voter had cell phones? LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:42 PM (iQIUe)

192 184 So the entire American power and money structure is now allied against Trump. I judge candidates by their enemies. He really had these people scared. I have one longtime GOP bigwig fundraiser on my FB feed and he has completely lost his mind. I really don't understand what they are so afraid of unless it is that they stand to lose all their power and access.

Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 03:38 PM (aqA37)

Wow. Such an independent mind!

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:42 PM (dx6bM)

193 John Kasich is best depicted in The Other Guys
https://youtu.be/_QSMUKWiDUg

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 03:43 PM (VdICR)

194 When I seek refuge in my new country, I'm gonna carry a machete to tune-up any pregnant native women who fall out of line while I'm ordering a kabob.

Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2016 03:43 PM (WYh6/)

195 I think it was Friedman who said it's futile to wait for a virtuous politician. Settle for those who will have a beneficial effect.
Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 03:27 PM (0Ph0e)

Friedman makes a great point, but IIRC, he also said that you have to incentivize that politician to do the right thing. You don't pick some guy and then just go along with whatever crazy shit he says.

When Trump decided to run for president this last time, he had his people look at what the base was most agitated about, and that was illegal immigration. So he did a 180 on that issue from his 2012 position (Romney's too mean to the Mexicans), and here he is--to his credit. He also studied up on the 2A and got his head right on that. Good!

But he's pushing a big government agenda and could improve on some issues. Far better than Hillary, but needs some improvement.

Where's the incentive for him to improve if we all just go along with Mr Trump on whatever statist thing plops out of his mouth?

Although perhaps the details don't matter so much as long as he appoints good judges AND spends his political capital to get them approved. It's too bad that judges have become so important, but that ship has left the barn.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (ozZau)

196 Does anyone think that I should seek help for my Jill Stein sex dreams?

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (dx6bM)

197
That wasnt a seizure. She has lied about the seriousness of the stroke she had several years ago. And her current medical condition with the inability to speak.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (iQIUe)

198 174
Obama will unleash the Muslims for operation choas in the states.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 03:31 PM (oifcv)

And no one will be able to determine their motives.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (sdi6R)

199 189,@votermom - I rewatched that Hillary video and it still confuses me. Was she trying to look cool and do a little rap move? But the context would be totally idiotic right? So was it a seizure or some kind? The reporter lady looked terrified like she just a saw a three headed alien.

Posted by: IC at July 24, 2016 03:45 PM (KTFfX)

200 I sawa version of it from the back (someone who was behind / to her left filming it) and you can really tell that the first set of head movements are different from the second.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:41 PM (7lVbc)

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I was think of this video last night. Could it be fake? I haven't seen anything about it on any of the blogs I visit.

Posted by: Soona at July 24, 2016 03:46 PM (Fmupd)

201 For many, it seems, the establishment was too conservative or even too republican.
Posted by: West Town

Rather, they were A ) not viable candidates in this our post-modern, mass media age, or B ) statists accelerating death of America

A = Walker, Cruz
B = Jeb, Kat-sick, Christie

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:46 PM (VY8H5)

202
Siouxsie And The Banshees - Dear Prudence

www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6rrTROoZIw

Pit hair

Misery++

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:46 PM (kdS6q)

203 And I respect that. Problem is that Trump sold himself as te "anti-establishment" guy. For many, it seems, the establishment was too conservative or even too republican.
Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:40 PM (dx6bM)

Really?
You'll have a hard time convincing too many of that.
What the republicans have become is unresponsive to their own constituents. Beholden to the CoC and other big money donors, and pursuing an agenda that could only be described as collusion with the other party at the expense of America.

Since 2005 when the amnesty mask first fell, and conservatives stayed home and purged congress, the GOPe hasn't acted conservative other than words at election time.

Those still in office should be damned happy that they're still looked at as the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 03:46 PM (kKHcp)

204 For many, it seems, the establishment was too conservative or even too republican.

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Are you speaking of congress? Boehner and McConnel? They're the reason Trump exists and they were not conservative.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 03:48 PM (kTF2Z)

205 NASCAR's not dead. It's resting. Pining for the fiords.

Not just that. The pyontiacs, too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 24, 2016 03:48 PM (tIja6)

206 but that ship has left the barn.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (ozZau)

another mixed metaphor. I like it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 03:49 PM (kKHcp)

207 203 And I respect that. Problem is that Trump sold himself as te "anti-establishment" guy. For many, it seems, the establishment was too conservative or even too republican.
Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:40 PM (dx6bM)

Really?
You'll have a hard time convincing too many of that.
What the republicans have become is unresponsive to their own constituents. Beholden to the CoC and other big money donors, and pursuing an agenda that could only be described as collusion with the other party at the expense of America.

Since 2005 when the amnesty mask first fell, and conservatives stayed home and purged congress, the GOPe hasn't acted conservative other than words at election time.

Those still in office should be damned happy that they're still looked at as the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 03:46 PM (kKHcp)

The power of OR

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:49 PM (dx6bM)

208
Things arent looking so good for ex president of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez. She may want to start watching epis of Wentworth or OSTNB.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:50 PM (iQIUe)

209 Fifth Amendment OKs eminent domain for public purpose if fair compensation is paid. Kelo reads "public purpose" broadly. I think it was wrongly decided, but I wasn't on SCOTUS at the time. It's now the law of the land. In effect, it lets states do what they want on this question.

But Kelo doesn't say that states have to let Wal-Mart build on land it seizes from old ladies. This kind of thing has become politically unpopular. There aren't a lot of Kelo eminent domain seizures.

Now look at the ObamaCare decision. Roberts flaked and deserves to be criticized. But it was a law passed with the acquisecence of Republicans in Congress. Harry Reid jammed it through by stripping an unrelated bill. The Maine Republican Senators could have killed it in Committee. I could go on. Point is that it wasn't all on Roberts, who could say that we the people elected these shitheads so it was up to us to change Congress -- which we did but then Congress did nothing.

Now here's the one to bitch about -- Kennedy's gay marriage decision which he made up by reading the 14th amendment contrary to its words and history. To force an anti-democratic result on the entire country.

So if you're hung up on Kelo it teels me that you're either disingenuous or you don't have your priorities straight.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:50 PM (bQxkN)

210 I really don't understand what they are so afraid of unless it is that they stand to lose all their power and access.

Posted by: Czar Peter at July 24, 2016 03:38 PM (aqA37)

I'm sure you are right about the "access" issue for some people, but what y'all need to know is that a lot of people honestly think he's crazy, or at the very least a pathological narcissist. Lots of decent people think that. Just FYI. They may or may not be right, but it's a common opinion.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:52 PM (ozZau)

211 John F**ing Kerry thinks refrigerators and air conditioning is as much a threat as ISIS or even greater

Despite hearing this type of stupidity for years from liberals it still stuns me when they say it so openly. Maybe it is because they are so rarely challenged by the media. Without air conditioning, and especially refrigeration large parts of our population would rapidly die off as food could not be easily stored or transported large distances. Life would be hellish in hot climates, disease would be more rampant and and the sick and elderly would die in droves during heat waves.

The deaths from lack these modern conveniences would dwarf the deaths from terrorism by a factor of thousands. But yeah, those are what threaten us.

Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2016 03:53 PM (1BQGO)

212 Kelo was one of the worst Supreme Court rulings in history. The right to private property goes all the way back to medieval times. The Supremes arrogantly changed the wording of the 5th amendment by changing the ability of government to "take" your property from "public use" to "public purpose". If you read Kelo you will find this purposely stated.

And the irony is that after taking the property and giving it to another non-government entity it was never used for that "public purpose".

Every judge who voted for that abortion of a ruling should have been impeached. But we have no opposition party.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 03:53 PM (mpXpK)

213 Now look at the ObamaCare decision. Roberts flaked and deserves to be criticized. But it was a law passed with the acquisecence of Republicans in Congress. Harry Reid jammed it through by stripping an unrelated bill. The Maine Republican Senators could have killed it in Committee. I could go on. Point is that it wasn't all on Roberts, who could say that we the people elected these shitheads so it was up to us to change Congress -- which we did but then Congress did nothing."

I'm pretty sure that Roberts did say that.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:53 PM (dx6bM)

214 The power of neither.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 03:54 PM (kTF2Z)

215 212 Kelo was one of the worst Supreme Court rulings in history. The right to private property goes all the way back to medieval times. The Supremes arrogantly changed the wording of the 5th amendment by changing the ability of government to "take" your property from "public use" to "public purpose". If you read Kelo you will find this purposely stated.

And the irony is that after taking the property and giving it to another non-government entity it was never used for that "public purpose".

Every judge who voted for that abortion of a ruling should have been impeached. But we have no opposition party.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 03:53 PM (mpXpK)

Yes. And the "opposition" "party" nominated a real estate magnate

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:55 PM (dx6bM)

216 Now look at the ObamaCare decision. Roberts flaked and deserves to be
criticized. But it was a law passed with the acquisecence of
Republicans in Congress.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:50 PM (bQxkN)

NOT true. Every Republican in congress voted against Obamacare. The initial bill was passed with 60 Democrats in the Senate, the funding portion of the bill was passed by Democrats only using the nuclear option.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 03:55 PM (mpXpK)

217 The deaths from lack these modern conveniences would dwarf the deaths from terrorism by a factor of thousands. But yeah, those are what threaten us.
Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2016 03:53 PM (1BQGO)
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They have no intention of denying themselves their a/c. I read this bs article in 2008 claiming that we must do away with ac. Guy lived in DC but spent summers in his mountain cabin. How nice...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:55 PM (iQIUe)

218 I tire of hearing how unprecedented or uncharacteristically nasty this election cycle has been. BS!!! The only difference in this election cycle is the prevalence of social media, and the role it has played.

Posted by: Burning Times Low Quality Pizza at July 24, 2016 03:56 PM (2X7pN)

219
Apocalyptica Ft Nina Hagen - Seemann

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEsJXfK5Da0

Misery++

Even though Nina was kinda hot.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:57 PM (kdS6q)

220 The happiness thread was making me unhappy.

Posted by: Mortimer at July 24, 2016 03:57 PM (qmuP7)

221 So if you're hung up on Kelo it teels me that you're either disingenuous or you don't have your priorities straight.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:50 PM (bQxkN)

Trump praised Kelo, so that's why I use it as an example. I have no idea what his position on Obergefell or the Obamacare decision are.

To criticize Trump on that is not being disingenuous, and it's disingenuous for you to say that.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 24, 2016 03:58 PM (ozZau)

222 216 Now look at the ObamaCare decision. Roberts flaked and deserves to be
criticized. But it was a law passed with the acquisecence of
Republicans in Congress.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 03:50 PM (bQxkN)

NOT true. Every Republican in congress voted against Obamacare. The initial bill was passed with 60 Democrats in the Senate, the funding portion of the bill was passed by Democrats only using the nuclear option.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 03:55 PM (mpXpK)

It doesnt matter. Now we have a "strong" man. He'll get things done, like rebranding ObamaCare.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (dx6bM)

223 Yes. And the "opposition" "party" nominated a real estate magnatePosted by: West Town

One who offered a woman ten times assessed value to sell her home.

I wish someone would offer me ten times assessed value.

He probably would have offered her more, and people never would have heard anything about the case, but there are limits to what a corporation can offer over fair market value before stockholders sue for malfeasance.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (ZnIt3)

224
NOT true. Every Republican in congress voted against Obamacare.
Posted by: Vic

Nobody ever remembers me, even after PBS gave me an hour long profiles in courage style documentary as a thank you for my vote:

wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Cao#Health_care

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (kdS6q)

225 For example, the FBI could set up a sting for senators selling favors to foreign governments. I imagine this would be pitifully easy, given how amateur they've shown themselves to be recently. We need a president with the minimum aggressiveness to let easy wins happen.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (VdICR)

226 219
Apocalyptica Ft Nina Hagen - Seemann

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEsJXfK5Da0

Misery++

Even though Nina was kinda hot.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:57 PM (kdS6q)

I expected to see Dieter from Sprockets singing backing vocals.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 04:00 PM (sdi6R)

227 And her current medical condition with the inability to speak.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 03:44 PM (iQIUe)

Inability to speak? So having President Hillary will be like Captain Christopher Pike? She'll roll around in a motorized cannister.

"Madame President, should we pardon Nidal Hassan? One beep for yes, two for no".

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 04:01 PM (0Ph0e)

228 Kraut Kops say latest Syrian refuthugee machete attack not terrorism. Also say no one is in danger. I don't know if these conclusions were drawn with benefit of forensic shoe-ology.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:02 PM (Nwg0u)

229 223 Yes. And the "opposition" "party" nominated a real estate magnatePosted by: West Town

One who offered a woman ten times assessed value to sell her home.

I wish someone would offer me ten times assessed value.

He probably would have offered her more, and people never would have heard anything about the case, but there are limits to what a corporation can offer over fair market value before stockholders sue for malfeasance.
Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (ZnIt3)

He was building a hospital or roads, right? Or maybe he was just putting up the argument that his private interest had public benefits like more taxes - like any progressive does.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:03 PM (dx6bM)

230
Rammstein - Ich Will

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOnSh3QlpbQ

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 04:03 PM (kdS6q)

231 her current medical condition with the inability to speak.

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Whoa. Talk about irresistible force v. Immovable object. Hillz must lie, can't speak.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:04 PM (Nwg0u)

232 NOT true. Every Republican in congress voted against Obamacare. The initial bill was passed with 60 Democrats in the Senate, the funding portion of the bill was passed by Democrats only using the nuclear option.�Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 03:55 PM (mpXpK)�

Not to be a pain in the ass, but Congress equals the house, who never voted up or down on Obamacard. Hairy Reid took some bill that had been approved by the house and pasted in obamacre. Senate republicans voted against obamacare but reid 'deemed' it to have passed, despite the fact it did not have sufficient votes.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 04:04 PM (ZnIt3)

233 224 Nobody ever remembers me, even after PBS gave me an hour long profiles in courage style documentary as a thank you for my vote:

wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Cao#Health_care

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 03:59 PM (kdS6q)

He vote "for" the draft bill in Nov and voted against the final bill that gave us Obamacare in December.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 04:04 PM (mpXpK)

234 >>>Rammstein - Ich Will

Du hast mich. Du really hast mich.

Posted by: Frau Merkel at July 24, 2016 04:06 PM (0Ph0e)

235 The intellectual dishonesty of the left is on full display and truly staggering these days.

Some emails are more damning than others? Some emails cost a middling congresswoman and party chair her job, while other emails are of no import relative to a presidential candidate? Ridiculous.

Proof of DNC-media collusion (further proof...remember journo-list?)...yes but the REAL problem is HOW it was leaked? Preposterous

Pretty sure HRC could kill a hobo on live tv in Times Square and wouldn't lose a single lib vote. Her corruption is obvious...the true problem is an electorate that tolerates it.

Sad times indeed.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at July 24, 2016 04:06 PM (eOUAk)

236 "NOT true. Every Republican in congress voted against Obamacare."

IIRC Susan Collins (R ME) voted it out of committee. Replacing Ted Kennedy became a refrendum on ObamaCare that Scott Brown won. But then Harry Reid pulled a BS trick of completing stripping another bill to push it through notwithstanding the filibuster rule. The Rs did nothing to stop it.

Then, given control of Congress by voters pissed over ObamaCare, the Rs continued to fund it instead of forcing Obama's hand

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:07 PM (bQxkN)

237 Debbie Downer is Done. She's stepping down after the convention.

My bet is Warren will be her replacement.

Posted by: Han Yolo at July 24, 2016 04:07 PM (MNzex)

238
He vote "for" the draft bill in Nov and voted against the final bill that gave us Obamacare in December.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

That old dodge. As I recall, it was his earlier vote that allowed the bill to progress. Otherwise it was dead.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 04:07 PM (kdS6q)

239 231
Whoa. Talk about irresistible force v. Immovable object. Hillz must lie, can't speak.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:04 PM (Nwg0u)

That was a short story by Harlan Ellison, wasn't it? "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Lie".

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 04:07 PM (sdi6R)

240 Kelo upheld States Rights.

Many states changed their parameters of what constitutes eminent domain after that decision.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 04:08 PM (P/kVC)

241 I have to say I am underwhelmed by charges through the primaries and now with proof from the emails that the DNC conspired against Sanders to deny him the nomination. Considering Sanders was not a member of the party what did he expect? I know his ideas/ideology fits well withing today's Dem party but if he wanted to be their candidate he should have joined the party years ago. After playing the "independent" BS for years so he has no right to bitch. He was lucky they even let him participate in the primaries as a prop for Hillary.

Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2016 04:08 PM (1BQGO)

242

Incorrect

232 Not to be a pain in the ass, but Congress equals the
house, who never voted up or down on Obamacard. Hairy Reid took some
bill that had been approved by the house and pasted in obamacre. Senate
republicans voted against obamacare but reid 'deemed' it to have passed,
despite the fact it did not have sufficient votes.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 04:04 PM (ZnIt3)

Not true

Vote Results: House Passes Obamacare

Benjamin Domenech

July 7, 2011

The
final vote tally for the Senate version of President Obama's health
care reform legislation in the House was 219-212, with 34 Democrats
joining all Republicans in opposition.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2016 04:09 PM (mpXpK)

243
Proof of DNC-media collusion (further proof...remember journo-list?)...yes but the REAL problem is HOW it was leaked? Preposterous

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at July 24, 2016 04:06 PM (eOUAk)

The real problem is BOTH.

The DNC should be raked over the coals for the content of the e-mails, and the media and twitter should be lambasted for trying to play it down.

BUT if an antagonistic foreign government is trying to influence the election, that is also an enormous issue, particularly given Trump's recent foreign policy statements and the changes his team made to the GOP platform.

Posted by: person at July 24, 2016 04:10 PM (mFkVC)

244 Blabbermouth Schultz to resign.

Posted by: willy at July 24, 2016 04:10 PM (Ffw22)

245
The fake indian has as much charisma as debby downer. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:11 PM (iQIUe)

246 He vote "for" the draft bill in Nov and voted against the final bill that gave us Obamacare in December.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Opposing both was too difficult?

Sorry, like the Iran funding deal, too clever by half.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 04:11 PM (VY8H5)

247
I want to know the time and day Hillary's coochie girl is going to speak.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:11 PM (iQIUe)

248
Police in Germany have said a 16-year-old has been arrested in connection with the shooting that killed nine people in #Munich on Friday

Hmmm......

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:12 PM (iQIUe)

249 I am probably voting Trump in General given how awful the (other) Democrats are, but cannot comprehend how he's "anti-establishment".

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:13 PM (dx6bM)

250 "174 After that seizure she had that is going viral, I don't think we will make it to the elections."

I wish it were otherwise, but I think the "seizure" is a nothingburger. The woman with the question sort of lunged at her--got into her face. She bobbed her head back and forth in a silly way as a reaction to that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2016 04:13 PM (97XyN)

251 FOOD Thread up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 04:14 PM (VY8H5)

252 IIRC Susan Collins (R ME) voted it out of committee.

In fairness to the Diablo, Reid would have just brought the bill directly to the floor with some bs exception to the established order. He had the 60 votes he needed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) blurts at July 24, 2016 04:14 PM (rwI+c)

253 250
I wish it were otherwise, but I think the "seizure" is a nothingburger. The woman with the question sort of lunged at her--got into her face. She bobbed her head back and forth in a silly way as a reaction to that.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2016 04:13 PM (97XyN)

Yeah, that's the impression that I got.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 04:14 PM (sdi6R)

254
So, is the chimp imitating humans? Does he like the feel of dog? Or is he really expressing affection?

https://goo.gl/yVbL0v

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:15 PM (iQIUe)

255 In the interest of equality, I shall now post on the unhappy thread.

I used to run to boost happyness. Because of my knees, I turned into a shambling walker.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 24, 2016 04:15 PM (FtrY1)

256 The food thread depresses me. Everyone else is eating more delicious food than I am.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 04:16 PM (sdi6R)

257 248
Police in Germany have said a 16-year-old has been arrested in connection with the shooting that killed nine people in #Munich on Friday

Hmmm......
''''''''''''''''

A couple of lone shooters?

I'd still like to know what happened to mateen's wife.

Posted by: willy at July 24, 2016 04:16 PM (Ffw22)

258 Joseph Cao was a fluke "Republican". Kind of like Trump, but without as much appeal to minorities

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:17 PM (dx6bM)

259 He was lucky they even let him participate in the primaries as a prop for Hillary.
Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2016 04:08 PM (1BQGO)

He always caucused with them and voted much of the time, except on gun control bills, with the Democrats. So in every respect he was a loyal party member.
My guess is they wanted his votes and thought he was dragging independents along for the ride that would vote for them also.

Then he got uppity. To a point. Remember, Bernie never went after Hillary for her emails nor for Benghazi. So whatever is "leaking" out now, is pretty mild compared to what the Democrats would have actually done to him and his wife had he tried to run a serious campaign to win the nomination. He simply needed to be taken down a few pegs and made to understand his place. No need for full on destruction, as he can still be useful as far as donors, voters and continued assured "with the Dem's "votes in the Senate.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 24, 2016 04:17 PM (Zz6ul)

260 Kelo was one of the worst Supreme Court rulings in history.

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I am a defender of Kelo. It's horrible policy but the ruling was correct. The government clearly gained a public good in the form of increased revenues by seizing private property for sale to another private owner who would increase property values and therefore taxation. The mere fact that no government with the slightest respect for justice or private property would enact such a policy does not mean such a policy violates the constitution. We complain when "Justice" Darth Vader Ginsberg determines her favored outcome then makes shit up to achieve that outcome. Why, therefore, is it OK for conservative justices to do the same?

The eminent domain abuse problem needs to be addressed by statute or amendment, not by the making-shit-up standard.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:20 PM (Nwg0u)

261 @252 Which is why I wish Reid was playing for our side.

What if Trump got McConnell to use the nuclear option for his SCOTUS appointments? On other key measures?

Are we for it, or would it make him an Authoritarian?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:20 PM (bQxkN)

262 Wasserman Schultz is out. They are trying to appease Sanders and his huge voting block but I don't think it is going to work.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 24, 2016 04:20 PM (iONHu)

263 If we are to learn from history, we need to look at macro, not micro. This is just one Morons opinion, btw.

Is islam violent?

Let's review the tape of the last 1400 years! Yes, it is.

Will Mohammed abadabbado binSalami go jihadi next week?

Who the hell knows.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 24, 2016 02:59 PM (kKHcp)

Yup, look at macro, the ebb and flow.
Not seeing the forest for the trees keeps many from seeing the islamic culture / forest for the dangerous place that it is.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 04:20 PM (P/kVC)

264 That video of Hillary's looks like she was about to accidentally say something honest and sincere but her brain caught the error, went into spaz mode, sent her into convulsions, corrected itself and returned to normal lying, phony Hillary mode.

Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2016 04:21 PM (1BQGO)

265 Police in Germany have said a 16-year-old has been arrested in connection with the shooting that killed nine people in #Munich on Friday

Hmmm......
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:12 PM (iQIUe)

Heard on radio news a while ago, there has been another happy asylum seeker has killed a woman today who was pregnant by using a machete. Two additional people were injured in the town of Reutlingen. The Syrian was known to police from prior incidents and of course, the official word is it has no connection to terrorism.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 24, 2016 04:22 PM (Zz6ul)

266 261 @252 Which is why I wish Reid was playing for our side.

What if Trump got McConnell to use the nuclear option for his SCOTUS appointments? On other key measures?

Are we for it, or would it make him an Authoritarian?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:20 PM (bQxkN)

He is playing for YOUR side. And yeah, their both authoritarian.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:23 PM (dx6bM)

267 aha !

Posted by: redbutthurtperson at July 24, 2016 04:23 PM (qQk+U)

268 *they're. What a hangover...

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:23 PM (dx6bM)

269 The�final vote tally for the Senate version of President Obama's health�care reform legislation in the House was 219-212, with 34 Democrats�joining all Republicans in opposition.Posted by: Vic We Have No Party�

Okay, I see were we differ. All spending bills MUST originate in the house. Obamacare did not. It was never originated in the house and voted upon. Hairy Reid took some other spending bill, stripped out the contents, and pasted in obamacare.

Then the Senate did not vote on it, but at some point in time,after Reid 'deemed' that it had passed in Senate, the house did vote approval.

Then voted 50 plus times in favor to repeal it.

I still don't get it.

Posted by: free range conservative at July 24, 2016 04:24 PM (ZnIt3)

270 BUT if an antagonistic foreign government is trying to influence the election,

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I am aware of zero, zip, nada (just a little Rush lingo) evidence that this happened. The DNC says so but I've heard they stretch the truth for political benefit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:24 PM (Nwg0u)

271 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

At this point the never-trump people cannot expect their boy to be installed. At best, they are useful idiots for the UniParty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 04:25 PM (P/kVC)

272
I am a defender of Kelo. It's horrible policy but the ruling was correct.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wreck

"You -- you monster!"

*grabs Cruz 2016 Victory Teddy Bear*

*sobs*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 04:27 PM (kdS6q)

273 Wasserman Schultz is out.

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I don't care. I'm still calling their convention Debbie Does DNC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:27 PM (Nwg0u)

274 271 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

At this point the never-trump people cannot expect their boy to be installed. At best, they are useful idiots for the UniParty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 04:25 PM (P/kVC)

Hey,'I may be an idiot, but I'm not useful and I am nomlonger in either party

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:28 PM (dx6bM)

275 273 Wasserman Schultz is out.

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I don't care. I'm still calling their convention Debbie Does DNC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:27 PM (Nwg0u)

HOT

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:29 PM (dx6bM)

276 From Insty a headline with commentary:

HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER [robby mook] CLAIMS RUSSIANS HACKED DNC COMPUTERS TO HELP TRUMP: Note Robby Mook neglects to name the "some experts" who tell him helping Trump was what motivated Russian hackers. He does yoke Trump to Vladimir Putin. But Hillary's the one who re-set relations, didn't she, Robby? Seems Robby Mook has determined Russian motives but for Jim Comey and the FBI Hillary's motives remained opaque. Poor security may have permitted the DNC hack, Robby --- like, gross negligence. Will you overlook your staff's gross communication security negligence as blithely as Jim Comey ignored Hillary's criminal negligence? Think about it. Mook's smear of Trump all but admits motivated American enemies hacked Hillary's server and obtained classified information.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 04:30 PM (LdMbv)

277 Vote your conscience, every one.

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:30 PM (dx6bM)

278 Machete guy looks pretty jihadi to me. He's got the required beard and shit.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:30 PM (iQIUe)

279 I wish it were otherwise, but I think the "seizure" is a nothingburger. The woman with the question sort of lunged at her--got into her face. She bobbed her head back and forth in a silly way as a reaction to that.

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They're tryingto anthropomorphize Hillz but it's not working.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:31 PM (Nwg0u)

280 Wassermouth-Shithead is out?

WASSERMOUTH-SHITHEAD IS OUT???!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2016 04:32 PM (TPJ04)

281 276 From Insty a headline with commentary:

HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER [robby mook] CLAIMS RUSSIANS HACKED DNC COMPUTERS TO HELP TRUMP: Note Robby Mook neglects to name the "some experts" who tell him helping Trump was what motivated Russian hackers. He does yoke Trump to Vladimir Putin. But Hillary's the one who re-set relations, didn't she, Robby? Seems Robby Mook has determined Russian motives but for Jim Comey and the FBI Hillary's motives remained opaque. Poor security may have permitted the DNC hack, Robby --- like, gross negligence. Will you overlook your staff's gross communication security negligence as blithely as Jim Comey ignored Hillary's criminal negligence? Think about it. Mook's smear of Trump all but admits motivated American enemies hacked Hillary's server and obtained classified information.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 04:30 PM (LdMbv)

She hired a Mook as campaign manager...

Posted by: West Town at July 24, 2016 04:32 PM (dx6bM)

282 HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER [robby mook] CLAIMS RUSSIANS HACKED DNC COMPUTERS TO HELP TRUMP:

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They're afraid Hillz'll hit 'em with another reset button.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:33 PM (Nwg0u)

283 Breaking: Debbie Waterhead-Slutz is out completely. Not just out of the convention, as reported earlier, but out as chair of the DNC.

Posted by: Zombie Robert C. Byrd at July 24, 2016 04:35 PM (wvPvB)

284 "He is playing for YOUR side."

OK, So I'm with Harry Reid. Because I'm not in your own Private Idaho of True Conservatism, as defined by you.

How #neverTrumpers think.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:37 PM (bQxkN)

285 I'd still like to know what happened to mateen's wife.
Posted by: willy at July 24, 2016 04:16 PM (Ffw22)
She's safe from any threat of anti-Muslim backlash. Now let us remember how Republican homophobic hate caused her mentally-ill lone wolf husband to snap, something that would not have been possible if we had sensible laws controlling assault weapons.

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at July 24, 2016 04:38 PM (FohCt)

286 199 189,@votermom - I rewatched that Hillary video and it still confuses me. Was she trying to look cool and do a little rap move? But the context would be totally idiotic right? So was it a seizure or some kind? The reporter lady looked terrified like she just a saw a three headed alien.
Posted by: IC at July 24, 2016 03:45 PM (KTFfX)

In my unqualified and inexpert opinion, the first set of head bobby was involuntary. Maybe a seizure, maybe a spasm. Then she immediately mimicked herself while laughing to make it look like she was just goofing around.

She's got something going on - maybe brain damage, maybe medication side effect, who knows.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 04:40 PM (7lVbc)

287 "Mook's smear of Trump all but admits motivated American enemies hacked Hillary's server and obtained classified information."

They could have the 33,000 e-mails that Hillary's lawyers put beyond FBI forensic recovery.

These e-mails can prove Clinton Cash Corruption, which the FBI didn't investigate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:40 PM (bQxkN)

288 27
If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set himself up for 20,
someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)
Maybe Reagan thought Ford could be, at least competent, in the roll of POTUS??Just a guess.

Posted by: Mimzey at July 24, 2016 04:41 PM (aRUb8)

289 Debbie's done fits the Zeitgeist. They called her Debbie Downer when she was telling that we need more government programs because of how bad everything was. The new meme is we don't want to change horses in the middle of utopia stream because what with Obozo's policies, everything is swell. Four more years! Four more years!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:42 PM (Nwg0u)

290 Donna Brazile is taking over as interim DNC chairwoman.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at July 24, 2016 04:42 PM (FohCt)

291 These e-mails can prove Clinton Cash Corruption, which the FBI didn't investigate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 24, 2016 04:40 PM (bQxkN)

The way the FBI covered for Hillary, I doubt that it would matter.

Posted by: Mimzey at July 24, 2016 04:43 PM (aRUb8)

292 RUSSIANS HACKED DNC COMPUTERS

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Maybe it was process of elimination. Hell, they know the FBI couldn't find their asses with both hands and a mirror.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 04:45 PM (Nwg0u)

293 If Trump wanted the Cruz endorsement, he shouldn't have pulled the birther crap, nor should he have teed up on Cruz's family.

Now Trump says he doesn't want the endorsment. It was probably sour anyway, eh, Donnie?

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at July 24, 2016 04:48 PM (wvPvB)

294 Donna Brazile is the one who, back in 2008, literally took delegates from Hillary and gave them to Obama.

Bernouts are in for a rude shock if they think she's any better than Debby.

*popcorn*

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 04:49 PM (7lVbc)

295 I can't believe Mook is a real name.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 04:50 PM (7lVbc)

296 Good lord,,how long is this ridiculous Trump Cruz nonsense going to go on..? As for Debbie what's her name, it was either resign or be fired I think...they really need to appease the Sanders supporters. Don't know if this would do it though.

Posted by: IC at July 24, 2016 04:51 PM (KTFfX)

297
I heard some BS npr program where they were whining how mean the city officials and cops were when the RNC was there with Bush. Right. The cities were it all goes to shit are donk cities and it is the donks who came up with "free speech cages" for their donk voters.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:54 PM (iQIUe)

298 " Good lord,,how long is this ridiculous Trump Cruz nonsense going to go on..?"

Given that Cruz is a Latino, I'm guessing for the rest of their lives. Never attack a Latino man's family. Never.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at July 24, 2016 04:54 PM (wvPvB)

299 Are we sure Bush was not behind this latest crap to hurt the Demoncrats??????????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 24, 2016 04:58 PM (Fbj4h)

300
All's quiet in Philly. I'm disappointed. DNC starts tomorrow but all the trouble makers and weirdos shd have been doing their "thangs" starting Sat.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:58 PM (iQIUe)

301 On twitter today I asked if never-trump people could take a day off attacking Trump and talk about Clinton Cash instead.
Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 03:02 PM (7lVbc)

Good idea. While you're at it, you might want to let Trump know that he won the Republican nomination and now might be a good time to focus on his opponent instead of worrying about whether or not he can form SuperPACs to punish Republicans who did not kiss his ring.

Wherever you stand on Cruz, Kasich, the Bushs, etc., what make more sense- figuring out next steps in your war again the party that just nominated you or what you're going to do about the person who is actually running against you.

For fuck sake. What kind of imbecile calls a press conference a day after the convention and proceeds to spend the time talking about SuperPACs against Republicans who aren't even up for election this cycle?

The guy can't keep his eye on the ball for even a day and, instead, is focused on punishing people of no consequence who's only crime is not sucking up to him and treating him "fairly" or with the outlandish level of respect he thinks he's due. Sure, let's make sure the IRS, CIA, and all federal law enforcement report to this guy, make him commander in chief of the military and give him nuclear codes. That will show the next person who fails to gush over him or dares to question his decisions or judgement.

Posted by: Damiano at July 24, 2016 04:58 PM (71OEY)

302 For fuck sake. What kind of imbecile calls a press conference a day after the convention and proceeds to spend the time talking about SuperPACs against Republicans who aren't even up for election this cycle?

Posted by: Damiano at July 24, 2016 04:58 PM (71OEY)

The same kind of person who spends all day on the internet bashing people whose votes they need.

Dumbest. Election. Cycle. Ever.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2016 05:02 PM (wB8Tg)

303 298 " Good lord,,how long is this ridiculous Trump Cruz nonsense going to go on..?"
....

Good question. As the guy who held a press conference about it the day after accepting the R nomination.

Lets see... what was happening on Friday? Day after the convention. Day after some terrorist attacks people with an axe in Germany, Germany has a mass shooting. Obama goes out to the press core and trashes Trump's "dark" speech, Hillary is due to announce her running mate...

Hmm... let's hold a press conference and ask my running mate if, as President, I can put 20 million into SuperPAC to punish the guys who I ran against in the primaries.

Why are people talking about Cruz? Go ask Trump. He's the fucking reason.

Posted by: Damiano at July 24, 2016 05:05 PM (71OEY)

304 Dude, looks like an idea to me.

http://tinyurl.com/gnyvc6q

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 05:06 PM (Nwg0u)

305 304 Dude, looks like an idea to me.

http://tinyurl.com/gnyvc6q
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 05:06 PM (Nwg0u)

===========
Saw a video where a cop broke car window and pulled dog out who was in distress. Dog crawled over to little shade offered by bldg and they brought it water. I thought they shd gram a bag of ice, open it, and let the dog lay on it to cool his body temp.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:11 PM (iQIUe)

306 300
All's quiet in Philly. I'm disappointed. DNC starts tomorrow but all the trouble makers and weirdos shd have been doing their "thangs" starting Sat.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:58 PM (iQIUe)

It's been grotesquely hot here all weekend. Even the protesters are all like, "Fuck this shit."

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 05:18 PM (sdi6R)

307

It's been grotesquely hot here all weekend. Even the protesters are all like, "Fuck this shit."
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2016 05:18 PM (sdi6R)

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Pussies! Where's their party discipline!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:22 PM (iQIUe)

308 Hey hey air conditioning
How many kids did you kill this weekending?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 24, 2016 05:24 PM (Nwg0u)

309
Guardian Media group report losses of L173M

Heh heh he!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:25 PM (iQIUe)

310 The 5 just showed some Bernie supporters in Philadelphia, if they can keep themselves from destroying property they'll be allowed to ptrotest.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 05:31 PM (bksJQ)

311
The ones who dont destroy shit are there to run interference for those who are there to destroy shit.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:39 PM (iQIUe)

312 Since it doesn't belong anywhere else: RE: Wikileaks

I don't trust Putin any further than I can comfortably spit out a mouthful of cockroaches, and the Russians definitely have an agenda and are trying to influence the American election.

BUT, I view this like Snowden. He is likely a traitor and should be tried for it, but I am grateful the information was added to the debate about government secrecy (though I would have preferred more specific things like names be redacted, people were probably killed over that).

Since the Dems are busy confirming the accuracy of the DNC leaks, I'm grateful we have the information but mindful of the agenda of the source.

No doubt more will follow. I think everybody has their own Operation Chaos at this point, maybe they should all coordinate as part of Operation Maximum Chaos.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2016 05:39 PM (wB8Tg)

313 Donna Brazile is taking over as interim DNC chairwoman.
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Miss We Don't Need White People is now running the DNC?

Hahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 05:42 PM (3Liv/)

314
Boy, June was a big shot in the ass month in Chicago. 27 thugs cant sit down. 6 shot in the junk for July already.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:42 PM (iQIUe)

315 Hoping for more sanity from the morons than complete lunatics inhabiting NRO, including most of the commenters. I just got back from Star Trek: Beyond and I think those guys have been compromised by some alien dark force that has Hillary as the collective's queen.

Posted by: dagny at July 24, 2016 05:47 PM (eSQgj)

316 I think those guys have been compromised by some alien dark force that has Hillary as the collective's queen.
Posted by: dagny at July 24, 2016 05:47 PM (eSQgj)

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The Falculty. A giant slug with teeth.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:48 PM (iQIUe)

317 I don't trust Putin any further than I can comfortably spit out a
mouthful of cockroaches, and the Russians definitely have an agenda and
are trying to influence the American election.
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It's probably ten things, but one of those things is that they're still pissed about Kosovo

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 05:48 PM (3Liv/)

318 "Donna Brazile is taking over as interim DNC chairwoman."

Wow, they found the only perosn in the country more reprehensible than Hillary and DWS.

Posted by: dagny at July 24, 2016 05:49 PM (eSQgj)

319 No one likes to protest from inside an oven. Wait until night at least.

Posted by: dagny at July 24, 2016 05:51 PM (eSQgj)

320
Dog massage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd60u2lrpu8

Dog looks like a pro.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 05:55 PM (iQIUe)

321 Debris caution gives the field one last shot at Kyle Busch.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 05:59 PM (3Liv/)

322 Was " Star Trek: Beyond " any good, dagny? My thought was that it was going to be more pandering mush, except this time with EXPLOSIONS.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 06:00 PM (6FqZa)

323 Was " Star Trek: Beyond " any good, dagny? My thought was that it was
going to be more pandering mush, except this time with EXPLOSIONS.
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I saw an ad today saying it was the best action movie of the summer.

Which, you know, is exactly what I'm looking for from a scifi movie.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:03 PM (3Liv/)

324 You know Cruz held a presser the day after his speech and shit on Trump or is it okay to not go after Hillary if you're not the nominee?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 06:04 PM (LdMbv)

325 Local news says DNC delegates are all happy happy joy joy unity unity.

*snicker*

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 06:05 PM (7lVbc)

326 And they wreck big.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:05 PM (3Liv/)

327 Immediately following it with a clip of a thousand Bernouts marching and shouting.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 06:06 PM (7lVbc)

328 It looks like Trump's been pretty busy the past day slagging on Crooked Hillary:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 06:07 PM (LdMbv)

329 Update over at zerohedge-Debbi What's Her Name resigns from DNC on day before convention...to become honorary chair of Clinton campaign

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:08 PM (3Liv/)

330 DWS always looked like someone who was in over her head.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 06:09 PM (6FqZa)

331 It looks like Trump's been pretty busy the past day slagging on Crooked Hillary:
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And pointing out how Bernie's sold out to The Man.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:11 PM (3Liv/)

332 Any chance the DNC contributed to the Clinton Foundation?

Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2016 06:13 PM (/yjcQ)

333 I still think polls like this one are worthless. The election fraud this time around is going to off the bloody charts. It will be out in the open, and it will be blatant. There is nothing to be done to stop it...because no one is willing to challenge Hillary's skirting of the law.

She has everything at stake, and the FEC (instead of policing fraud)...will likely be one of the major contributors to it. Even a massive lead by Trump will result in a loss...it's as simple as that.

Posted by: Orson at July 24, 2016 06:13 PM (XQWJW)

334 67 Spastic Epilepsic?

http://tinyurl.com/hphybzq

In slow motion:

http://tinyurl.com/h9mgylt

Check the horrified look on the reporter's face at :31

Posted by: franksalterego at July 24, 2016 02:46 PM (Cd+Fa)
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The left is out rebutting this today. The theme is "don't believe your lying eyes".

Snopes, for example, has a disgusted tone and argues "no reporter actually present saw it as a seizure".

Instead, they claimed, it was variously seen as a reaction either to a question about Warren or about a frozen Chai drink.

In other words, yes it was a seizure.

Posted by: MTF at July 24, 2016 06:14 PM (/m8T6)

335 When I think of a thousand Bernbots marching, I imagine it entails night and torches.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 06:17 PM (iQIUe)

336 Hillary is like Lovecraft's thing on the doorstep. She will keep going by the sheer demonic force of her will, until her body dissolves into a pile of goo. "glub glub..."

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 24, 2016 06:19 PM (0Ph0e)

337
I've seen a lot of different types of seizures. It was not a seizure.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 06:24 PM (iQIUe)

338 "I've seen a lot of different types of seizures. It was not a seizure."

Yeah, I don't think it was a seizure. Hillary's goofy and weird, but then we already knew that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2016 06:27 PM (97XyN)

339 Wreck again on next to last lap, so it's overtime. I think Harvick made a pass putting him on the second row (he's the first car with newish tires)

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:27 PM (3Liv/)

340 oops, wrong, Harvick was being passed, so first two rows are all old tires.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:29 PM (3Liv/)

341 I've seen a lot of different types of seizures. It was not a seizure.

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The first time, her eyes are closed and her head is jerking up and down. Her mouth is fixed.
The second time her eyes are open and her head bobs in a more fluid motion. She is laughing.

The first time looks involuntary.
Don't know if it was a seizure, but she dud not look in control of her movements.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 06:33 PM (7lVbc)

342 It wasnt a seizure.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 06:36 PM (iQIUe)

343 ...And they wreck again.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 24, 2016 06:38 PM (3Liv/)

344 The first time looks involuntary.

Don't know if it was a seizure, but she dud not look in control of her movements.

Posted by: at July 24, 2016 06:33 PM (7lVbc)

How does she make one eye look straight ahead while the other is looking at the bridge of her nose?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 06:49 PM (P/kVC)

345 Look at around the 0:54 second mark - her eyes are weird. Her right eye looks to the left while her left eye looks straight ahead. Her pupils seem dilated.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 06:50 PM (7lVbc)

346 Jinx burnt toast

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2016 06:52 PM (7lVbc)

347 It is her Marty Feldman impersonation.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 06:59 PM (P/kVC)

348 The eye thing does look strange.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2016 07:07 PM (97XyN)

349 323 Was " Star Trek: Beyond " any good, dagny? My thought was that it was
going to be more pandering mush, except this time with EXPLOSIONS.
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Yeah, it was good. A couple of diversity outreach comments but mostly anti-isis.

Posted by: dagny at July 24, 2016 07:09 PM (eSQgj)

350 I've seen a lot of different types of seizures. It was not a seizure.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 06:24 PM (iQIUe)

Assuming she wears Depends, she was letting it leak out and suffered a piss-shiver of level 6 on the richter scale.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 07:38 PM (P/kVC)

351 LOL, Debbie W S has resigned but now has her speaking slot back.

She is also still DNC chair, if I understand correctly, until the end of the convention. Is that correct?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 24, 2016 07:55 PM (Zz6ul)

352 Hillthulu 9000 wasn't having a seizure, she was having a Norman Coordinate moment.

Posted by: Han Yolo at July 24, 2016 08:12 PM (MNzex)

353 If Cruz was doing the Reagan in 76 thing to set
himself up for 20, someone forgot to tell him that Reagan endorsed Ford.
People have short memories and maybe it won't matter, but I voted for
him in the primary and now I'm sorry I did.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2016 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

Reagan never endorsed Ford... he also refused to campaign for him.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 24, 2016 08:28 PM (9dfKD)

354 You know Cruz held a presser the day after his speech and shit on Trump or is it okay to not go after Hillary if you're not the nominee?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2016 06:04 PM (LdMbv)

Meanwhile beck in reality, that didn't happen. What did happen is he spoke to the Texas delegation.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 24, 2016 08:32 PM (9dfKD)

355 hi kiddies !

Posted by: redbutthurtperson at July 24, 2016 08:45 PM (qQk+U)

356 20 If the manner in which the media has covered the Wikileaks emails doesn't convince someone of their bias, I'm not sure what will.

They reveal that the DNC actively worked against Bernie Sanders.

They also indicate something about Ted Cruz. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but it doesn't look very good.

http://tinyurl.com/jj3a4gc
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 24, 2016 02:09 PM (H6376)
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I got that email from the cruz campaign as well. Looks like Eric Bennett gave $10 to Cruz so he would get all the Cruz email appeals. Read carefully. Breathe. Relax.

Posted by: Old Toby at July 25, 2016 12:57 AM (cJDvr)

357 I would not bite into those poll numbers for love or money. Rotten and boney, with a side of leftism. Oh, believe as you like. This isn't even going to be a 'fair' election with a woman in it. She'll cry for years that it was stolen... not by ballot malfeasance, but because she's a girl. Do bull dikes count? Just... Yeah.

Yeah, I am probably more for Trump than any other Republican. And Definitely more for him than her. But... not so much that I am likely to vote. I live in Utah, and I think they are going to stay home or even vote for Hillary. Yeah. We'll see, but that's how it's looking. Not my problem. One more reason to move I think.

Nothing personal. Just not a good fit with statist left-sided so-called conservatives. I moved from Iowa, first, for the same reason. Here it's just... more organized and top-down.

Posted by: Doom at July 25, 2016 02:02 AM (4JtYT)

358 Hmm.... I loved my number! I feel a thrill going up my leg! Wait.. that's... yeah... Private moment.

Posted by: Doom at July 25, 2016 02:04 AM (4JtYT)

359 "Utah"
"left-sided so-called conservatives"

How so? Aren't they quite conservative? Low divorce rates, low rates of illegitimacy? The statism might be an issue, but I see it as secondary to other problems.

Posted by: Anymouse at July 25, 2016 02:58 PM (K2Obi)

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