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Bloomberg Poll Finds White College-Educated Vote Has Flipped to Hillary
Whites tend to vote Republican and the college-educated tend to vote Republican. Republicans do very well with college-educated whites: Mitt Romney won by double digits in 2012.
This could be an outlier, or it could be a sign of what I've been observing/predicting for some time: Politics is breaking down less on ideology now and more on strictly class-based grounds, and the college-educated are Signalling their distinction from the hoi polloi by defecting to the Democrats-- a party that keeps a firm lid on that nasty, vulgar populism (at least among whites-- they've sold populism and grievance to minority groups for 60 years) and is much more comfortable championing elitism and credentialism. Could be nothing. Could be everything.Comments
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Posted by: johnd01 at July 12, 2016 01:20 PM (ukNFU)
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Hillary, an icon of the Hipster generation?
Posted by: johnd01 at July 12, 2016 01:21 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 12, 2016 01:21 PM (KUaJL)
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That's a big reason why the Dems are always touting free college tuition: to produce more Democrats.
Posted by: rickl at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (zoehZ)
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That's why free college is good.
That's why free college is good.
Posted by: Hillary at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (WJiI/)
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Joe, New Zealand is white enough for Justice Ginsberg.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (gvSC+)
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First thing we should do is close down all the Colleges
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (zp+j1)
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No wonder they want free college.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (IqV8l)
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Could be another poll trying to influence what we think rather than measuring what we think.
Could be another poll trying to influence what we think rather than measuring what we think.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (8XRCm)
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From what I have seen of college education now, this makes total sense.
Posted by: FCF at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (kejii)
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So what you're saying is that we haven't done enough to crush their youthful idealism
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (wmxwV)
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What's the history of non-college-educated whites? (These categories are getting pretty tedious.)
What's the history of non-college-educated whites? (These categories are getting pretty tedious.)
Posted by: Hillary at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (pC96u)
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Didja see Jebba the Bush blames Pope Frankie Hollywood for his defeat? He says Frankie holding a pro-wetback mass on the border drew attention to Build-That-Wall Donald. Pope Frankie didn't realize you're supposed lie about your position during the election then betray after after you're elected.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (Nwg0u)
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11 From what I have seen of college education now, this makes total sense.
Posted by: FCF at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (kejii)
Yep. It would be shocking if it were otherwise.
Posted by: FCF at July 12, 2016 01:24 PM (kejii)
Yep. It would be shocking if it were otherwise.
Posted by: rickl at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (zoehZ)
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You said it yourself, ace: from now on out it's tribes that matter. People will align with the tribe that satisfies their big need: either race, or status signaling, or protection.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (PjWy4)
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Does college-educated trend Republican? I honestly thought that was a Democrat demographic.
Also, how does this track with the poll that shows Hillary losing the normal share of young voters?
Seems to be a lot of conflicting stuff going on.
Also, how does this track with the poll that shows Hillary losing the normal share of young voters?
Seems to be a lot of conflicting stuff going on.
Posted by: sunny-dee at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (QAOZh)
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I no longer trust poles. Interestingly enough Fox news said repeatedly either early this year or last that due to various issues they could not affirm the reliability or validity of their poles. I doubt anyone else can either. This election will be decided based on how much voter fraud the Democrats can do without getting caught to push Hillary into the presidency. There will be so many who sit this one out that the interesting part will be just how noticeable voter fraud will be this year.
Posted by: lightning at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (AP+SF)
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The office RINOS are voting for Hillary because Trump is too scary for them. I'm sure the soccer moms and their beta male husbands or things will vote that way too and then wake up surprised to see the Section 8 types that have been move into their formerly safe neighborhood
The office RINOS are voting for Hillary because Trump is too scary for them. I'm sure the soccer moms and their beta male husbands or things will vote that way too and then wake up surprised to see the Section 8 types that have been move into their formerly safe neighborhood
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (493sH)
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Could be both? An outlier and the continual reshuffling of the political deck that we have probably been in for a while and will be in for a while more.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (gmeXX)
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Hilary is starting to fall and Trump is gaining ground. I think the talk of this Admiral is bullshit. She's going to go for Castro or some radical dame like Fauxcahontas. She's pandering like mad to black folks.
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (27m1/)
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from now on out it's tribes that matter
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From now on??? Its been that way throughout human history.
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From now on??? Its been that way throughout human history.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (8XRCm)
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Not participating in this thread. The reasons should be obvious.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (Fmupd)
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And the solution is...?
Posted by: Ted K. at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (mU2P/)
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Given the state of college education, every 4 years is a pretty big jump in demographics and ideology. Each 4 years, their leftist/globalist indoctrination gets worse and deeper, so its going to shift.
Certainly college educated people are going to be a lot more globalist and less nationalist, and that's where the real divide is in the modern west. its not left/right or rich/poor. Its globalist/localist.
Certainly college educated people are going to be a lot more globalist and less nationalist, and that's where the real divide is in the modern west. its not left/right or rich/poor. Its globalist/localist.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (39g3+)
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Yeah, but at the exact same moment, and NBC poll just came out that has Trump closing the gap to just on the edge of the margin of error:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ hillary-clinton-s-lead-over-trump-shrinks-after-controversial-week-n607351
"Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump narrowed to 3 points this week after several days of controversy"...
And NBC leans somewhat left, so it's not a pro-Trump polling outfit.
Add in the "shy conservative" slant, and the race is now a toss-up, even if you believe polls.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ hillary-clinton-s-lead-over-trump-shrinks-after-controversial-week-n607351
"Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump narrowed to 3 points this week after several days of controversy"...
And NBC leans somewhat left, so it's not a pro-Trump polling outfit.
Add in the "shy conservative" slant, and the race is now a toss-up, even if you believe polls.
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (jBuUi)
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If FiveThirtyEight says its true, it must be true.
Posted by: Push polling at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (7wyDO)
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Politics is breaking down less on ideology now and more on strictly class-based grounds, and the college-educated are Signalling their distinction from the hoi polloi by defecting to the Democrats--
Riiiiiight. By defecting to the party of minorities and muzzie freeloading immigrants.
How does that circle square again?
Riiiiiight. By defecting to the party of minorities and muzzie freeloading immigrants.
How does that circle square again?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (I1MCJ)
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College educated here and conservative. I'll stand with the non-college educated any day over what I see a college educated young person has become - smug, conceited, close-minded and clueless.
You may well win this election, but I promise you, you will regret winning, even as you continue to refuse to try to understand what went wrong and whether there was an alternative.
College educated here and conservative. I'll stand with the non-college educated any day over what I see a college educated young person has become - smug, conceited, close-minded and clueless.
You may well win this election, but I promise you, you will regret winning, even as you continue to refuse to try to understand what went wrong and whether there was an alternative.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (WJiI/)
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You said it yourself, ace: from now on out it's tribes that matter. People will align with the tribe that satisfies their big need: either race, or status signaling, or protection.
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My big needs are this: no abortion, low taxes, and left alone.
I hope there is a tribe big enough for me.
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My big needs are this: no abortion, low taxes, and left alone.
I hope there is a tribe big enough for me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (gmeXX)
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Dammit! Willowed!
Well here it is....
Bernie waves to the crowds, his fake smile hiding the terror he feels...
He remembers the roadblock, Reuben cowering under the seats of the bus, the Trigglypuffs lured off by tubs of cherry ice cream. He was seized, a hood placed over his head, and dragged away.
When the hood was peeled back he blinked in the glare of a naked, environmentally friendly, curly bulb. The light was blocked as a familiar, dumpy form came into view.
"You," he snarled. "What do you want? You won already."
Hillary's smile was as false as Washington's teeth and she said "You poor deluded fool thought you could win. I had all of the cards, have all of the cards."
"You have nothing but your cabal of running dog media and Wall Street bankers. No one respects you nor even likes you."
"It was enough for the nomination, now I need one thing you have."
"What would that be, what could I, a true socialist hero of the down-trodden proletariat, the truest laborer of the laboring classes..."
Hillary interrupts him, her hissing voice cutting deep. "You couldn't open a pickle jar to save your life let alone hammer a nail. Just give me your endorsement and you may live."
Bernie cries "Never!" and begins singing the Internationale.
*******
Hours pass and he finally breaks.
"No! Not that! You win." He sobs. "I'll endorse you, just don't...don't harm them. I...love them."
"Keep your word and your souvenir Josef Stalin Memorial Collector Plates will come to no harm; cross me and it'll be the Porcelain Massacre." Hillary chuckles as she puts the plate down on the table. "Come now; we wouldn't want to keep your Bernie-bros waiting."
Well here it is....
Bernie waves to the crowds, his fake smile hiding the terror he feels...
He remembers the roadblock, Reuben cowering under the seats of the bus, the Trigglypuffs lured off by tubs of cherry ice cream. He was seized, a hood placed over his head, and dragged away.
When the hood was peeled back he blinked in the glare of a naked, environmentally friendly, curly bulb. The light was blocked as a familiar, dumpy form came into view.
"You," he snarled. "What do you want? You won already."
Hillary's smile was as false as Washington's teeth and she said "You poor deluded fool thought you could win. I had all of the cards, have all of the cards."
"You have nothing but your cabal of running dog media and Wall Street bankers. No one respects you nor even likes you."
"It was enough for the nomination, now I need one thing you have."
"What would that be, what could I, a true socialist hero of the down-trodden proletariat, the truest laborer of the laboring classes..."
Hillary interrupts him, her hissing voice cutting deep. "You couldn't open a pickle jar to save your life let alone hammer a nail. Just give me your endorsement and you may live."
Bernie cries "Never!" and begins singing the Internationale.
*******
Hours pass and he finally breaks.
"No! Not that! You win." He sobs. "I'll endorse you, just don't...don't harm them. I...love them."
"Keep your word and your souvenir Josef Stalin Memorial Collector Plates will come to no harm; cross me and it'll be the Porcelain Massacre." Hillary chuckles as she puts the plate down on the table. "Come now; we wouldn't want to keep your Bernie-bros waiting."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Convention Spectacular! Golden Scalp Weasels Have Arrived at the Outrage Outlet! at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (hLRSq)
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No wonder they want free college.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (IqV8l)
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Next step will be mandatory college. They just won't *call* it "camps."
No wonder they want free college.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 12, 2016 01:23 PM (IqV8l)
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Next step will be mandatory college. They just won't *call* it "camps."
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (pC96u)
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from now on out it's tribes that matter
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From now on??? Its been that way throughout human history.
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I thought history was left in the past once we elected Obama.
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From now on??? Its been that way throughout human history.
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I thought history was left in the past once we elected Obama.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (gmeXX)
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". . .from now on out it's tribes that matter."
Great TV movie from 1970 with Darren McGavin and Jan Michael Vincent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066490/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Great TV movie from 1970 with Darren McGavin and Jan Michael Vincent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066490/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (27m1/)
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Awaiting the final poling we will all get in November and beyond.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (IzkpO)
Posted by: Reggie at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (2PHKP)
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it's no surprise that all the people with student debt and worthless degrees and jobs waiting tables and selling advertising door-to-door would tend to go for someone promising miracles they're dumb enough to believe in.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (qSIlh)
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I took a poll in my bed last night. Wanna know the results?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (zp+j1)
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And NBC leans somewhat left, so it's not a pro-Trump polling outfit.
Add in the "shy conservative" slant, and the race is now a toss-up, even if you believe polls.
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (jBuUi)
NBC leans somewhat left? If it lean any more it would fall over
Add in the "shy conservative" slant, and the race is now a toss-up, even if you believe polls.
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:27 PM (jBuUi)
NBC leans somewhat left? If it lean any more it would fall over
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (493sH)
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21 Hilary is starting to fall and Trump is gaining ground. I think the talk of this Admiral is bullshit. She's going to go for Castro or some radical dame like Fauxcahontas. She's pandering like mad to black folks.
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (27m1/)
Certainly now is when you would think she should be moderating a bit, but she is still acting like she needs to shore up her liberal base. It could also be that she feels like the old models no longer apply after Obama's success.
Early days still.
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (27m1/)
Certainly now is when you would think she should be moderating a bit, but she is still acting like she needs to shore up her liberal base. It could also be that she feels like the old models no longer apply after Obama's success.
Early days still.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (3ZoRf)
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The rumors of Hillary! vetting a military VP are being floated to counter the rumors of Trump vetting a military VP.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:30 PM (eyEhC)
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BREAKING:
Among people who aggressively want to publicly "virtue-signal" their distance from Trump by actually answering a pollster, Trump is losing!
Among everyone else who slams the door in pollsters' faces, however....
Among people who aggressively want to publicly "virtue-signal" their distance from Trump by actually answering a pollster, Trump is losing!
Among everyone else who slams the door in pollsters' faces, however....
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:30 PM (jBuUi)
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Here's an alternative explanation: people who are educated dislike Trump's ignorant and obvious pandering. He clearly doesn't mean anything he says and is articulating the conservative beliefs he "holds" in the simplest, most reductionist forms possible.
Stopping illegal immigration with better border enforcement, cracking down on employers, and a variety of other disincentives becomes "BUILD A WALL!" and "WE EITHER HAVE A COUNTRY OR WE DON'T".
To be clear, I get the appeal of Trump because while his rhetoric is simplistic and dumb it is clear and it does conform to what we've wanted for years. More so than any other candidate Trump claims he'll do what we want him to. Just to me it seems obvious he doesn't even know what he's claiming.
Stopping illegal immigration with better border enforcement, cracking down on employers, and a variety of other disincentives becomes "BUILD A WALL!" and "WE EITHER HAVE A COUNTRY OR WE DON'T".
To be clear, I get the appeal of Trump because while his rhetoric is simplistic and dumb it is clear and it does conform to what we've wanted for years. More so than any other candidate Trump claims he'll do what we want him to. Just to me it seems obvious he doesn't even know what he's claiming.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:30 PM (MSaTJ)
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RE: that poll... I've seen nothing that cannot be fabricated.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (i0ykY)
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You said it yourself, ace: from now on out it's tribes that matter. People will align with the tribe that satisfies their big need: either race, or status signaling, or protection.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (PjWy4)
Yepl As long as our currency has value and our government has power, ever smaller tribes get self-selected into. Then those tribes can form coalitions with other small tribes to get their rice bowls filled and feel sanctimoniously superior in the process.
When one of the two conditions is no longer valid, then a tribe will be selected for you, and it you've already rejected that group, you'll be alone.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (PjWy4)
Yepl As long as our currency has value and our government has power, ever smaller tribes get self-selected into. Then those tribes can form coalitions with other small tribes to get their rice bowls filled and feel sanctimoniously superior in the process.
When one of the two conditions is no longer valid, then a tribe will be selected for you, and it you've already rejected that group, you'll be alone.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (kKHcp)
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I took a poll in my bed last night. Wanna know the results?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM
Phrasing, NGU....phrasing....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM
Phrasing, NGU....phrasing....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (bzd8I)
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Could be another poll trying to influence what we think rather than measuring what we think.
Posted by: fixerupper
Nah, that could never happen. Why, that would be unethical!
Could be another poll trying to influence what we think rather than measuring what we think.
Posted by: fixerupper
Nah, that could never happen. Why, that would be unethical!
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (jBuUi)
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Wanted:
Tribe to join. Not sure if I'm upper-middle class, lower-under class, low-class in nice clothes, white or half native-american, but I need a tribe before SHTF. I don't mind being picked last.
Tribe to join. Not sure if I'm upper-middle class, lower-under class, low-class in nice clothes, white or half native-american, but I need a tribe before SHTF. I don't mind being picked last.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (2PHKP)
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Does college-educated trend Republican? I honestly thought that was a Democrat demographic.
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Same here. I was surprised to see that Romney carried them substantially. And you know what that tells me? I've been falling for memes in the news for quite a while, and now reality has caught up.
Does college-educated trend Republican? I honestly thought that was a Democrat demographic.
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Same here. I was surprised to see that Romney carried them substantially. And you know what that tells me? I've been falling for memes in the news for quite a while, and now reality has caught up.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)
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21 Hilary is starting to fall and Trump is gaining ground. I think the talk of this Admiral is bullshit. She's going to go for Castro or some radical dame like Fauxcahontas. She's pandering like mad to black folks
- J. J. Sefton
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You misspelled Corey Booker.
- J. J. Sefton
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You misspelled Corey Booker.
Posted by: Chi at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (Sw6M6)
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Wait until she doubles down on the obamacare "public option" obama is floating. They will leave her then as I suspect most of them have actual jobs and would like to keep their money.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (iONHu)
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from now on out it's tribes that matter
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That'll work as long as we encourage the left to model themselves after the Ik
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That'll work as long as we encourage the left to model themselves after the Ik
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (wmxwV)
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NBC leans somewhat left? If it lean any more it would fall over
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If the N leaned any more it'd be a Z.
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If the N leaned any more it'd be a Z.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (Nwg0u)
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"College-educated" does not automatically = smart or wise. Of course.
Posted by: Stu-22 at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (rUc9h)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (8XRCm)
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43 Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:30 PM (MSaTJ)
Trump is the wrong guy at the right time. Under almost any other circumstances no.
But after 8 years of fundamental destruction and the prospect of 4-8 more with Hilary Clinton, Trump is the ONLY guy.
Trump is the wrong guy at the right time. Under almost any other circumstances no.
But after 8 years of fundamental destruction and the prospect of 4-8 more with Hilary Clinton, Trump is the ONLY guy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (27m1/)
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This means we need Kasich! Screw the primary voters. Only Big John can save us now! Polls, polls, polls!
Posted by: Afroman at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (1fJOC)
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37 it's no surprise that all the people with student debt and worthless degrees and jobs waiting tables and selling advertising door-to-door would tend to go for someone promising miracles they're dumb enough to believe in.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (qSIlh)
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:29 PM (qSIlh)
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Josef Pilsudski at July 12, 2016 01:33 PM (f9LIq)
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18 I no longer trust poles.
Posted by: lightning at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (AP+SF)
That's wise of you. I'd keep an eye on the Czechs and Hungarians too.
Posted by: lightning at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (AP+SF)
That's wise of you. I'd keep an eye on the Czechs and Hungarians too.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 01:33 PM (u0lmX)
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50 You misspelled Corey Booker.
Posted by: Chi at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (Sw6M6)
Meh. Pick a grievance group.
Posted by: Chi at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (Sw6M6)
Meh. Pick a grievance group.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:33 PM (27m1/)
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The D-base (SWIDT?) wouldn't accept a warmonger on the ticket, even if he's a lefty deskjockey.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2016 01:33 PM (+wjl1)
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Next step will be mandatory college. They just won't *call* it "camps."
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (pC96u)
They don't need college for that, elementary school gives them all the time they need.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (pC96u)
They don't need college for that, elementary school gives them all the time they need.
Posted by: FCF at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (kejii)
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Politics is breaking down less on ideology now
What ideology has captured, and is taught by, university academics?
What ideology has captured, and is taught by, university academics?
Posted by: William Randolph at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (okiLt)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (8XRCm)
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The top post on Weaselzippers has me wanting some sweey Hate-fil-a sandwiches.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (3ZoRf)
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off topic, breitbart via drudge:
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
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Wanted:
Tribe to join. Not sure if I'm upper-middle class, lower-under class, low-class in nice clothes, white or half native-american, but I need a tribe before SHTF. I don't mind being picked last.
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Recommend joining the tribe with the most guns.
Tribe to join. Not sure if I'm upper-middle class, lower-under class, low-class in nice clothes, white or half native-american, but I need a tribe before SHTF. I don't mind being picked last.
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Recommend joining the tribe with the most guns.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (gmeXX)
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Same here. I was surprised to see that Romney
carried them substantially. And you know what that tells me? I've been
falling for memes in the news for quite a while, and now reality has
caught up.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)
Same here also. I'd have thought those who'd marinated in Marxist doctrine for four years would be reliably Democrat.
carried them substantially. And you know what that tells me? I've been
falling for memes in the news for quite a while, and now reality has
caught up.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)
Same here also. I'd have thought those who'd marinated in Marxist doctrine for four years would be reliably Democrat.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (oKE6c)
70
Great TV movie from 1970 with Darren McGavin and Jan Michael Vincent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066490/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (27m1/)
Oh, yeah, I remember this being one of those ABC "Movie of the Week" deals they used to run on Tuesday nights.
Remember that scene of that hippie kid holding out two jugs of milk at each arms' length while thinking about shagging his girlfriend and the drill instructors being amazed at his endurance.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066490/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:28 PM (27m1/)
Oh, yeah, I remember this being one of those ABC "Movie of the Week" deals they used to run on Tuesday nights.
Remember that scene of that hippie kid holding out two jugs of milk at each arms' length while thinking about shagging his girlfriend and the drill instructors being amazed at his endurance.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (egyCj)
71
"College-educated" has become an oxymoron.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (+wjl1)
72
Makes sense. College educated is less of a proxy for intelligence than it has ever been.
Posted by: X at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (nFwvY)
73
Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
74
The D-base (SWIDT?) wouldn't accept a warmonger on the ticket, even if he's a lefty deskjockey.
And with as much is known about Hillary's disdain for the military, she would never pick an ex-mil as a running mate. Never.
And with as much is known about Hillary's disdain for the military, she would never pick an ex-mil as a running mate. Never.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (I1MCJ)
75
Hilary is starting to fall and Trump is gaining ground. I think the talk of this Admiral is bullshit. She's going to go for Castro or some radical dame like Fauxcahontas. She's pandering like mad to black folks.
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (27m1/)
Lizzy seems scares off the RINOs (I know) more than Trump because she's too radical. They might stay home rather than vote if she's the VP pick
My gut tells me her internal polling is really bad. If all these things are true about Hilary she should be significantly ahead. She's not.
We'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:26 PM (27m1/)
Lizzy seems scares off the RINOs (I know) more than Trump because she's too radical. They might stay home rather than vote if she's the VP pick
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (493sH)
76
67 off topic, breitbart via drudge:
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
This is the same guy who told the guys at AIG that he was the one standing between them and the guys with pitchforks in front of their houses.
Remember that golden oldie from 2009?
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
This is the same guy who told the guys at AIG that he was the one standing between them and the guys with pitchforks in front of their houses.
Remember that golden oldie from 2009?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (27m1/)
77
HILLARY CONTROLS THE MONKEY OF DEATH! WHAT COULD I DO BUT WORSHIP HER BUNIONS?
Posted by: Bernie Sanders, Man of the People at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (PjWy4)
78
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
79
I still think the best answer is becoming an ex-pat.
Only worrying about sand crabs and which beer to drink seems a far cry better than worrying about Hillary accidentally giving us a nip-slip during a coughing fit.
Ha ha.
Made you visualize.
Only worrying about sand crabs and which beer to drink seems a far cry better than worrying about Hillary accidentally giving us a nip-slip during a coughing fit.
Ha ha.
Made you visualize.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (2PHKP)
80
Are we going to havve another Rapeless Tuesday?
Posted by: garrett at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (VGG67)
81
I remember seeing some stats after the 2004 election. Both people with graduate degrees and high school dropouts skewed overwhelmingly Democrat.
Posted by: rickl at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (zoehZ)
82
College-educated tend to vote Republican? That's...interesting. And suspect. But nonetheless, so it's Trump they're scared of, and they'd rather support Hillary. Who is a very known known. But that's not scary. O-kaaay.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (+FSld)
83
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on
Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black
community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police
official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
"We are the ones we have been waiting for" ~ Barry the Save Yours
Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black
community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police
official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
"We are the ones we have been waiting for" ~ Barry the Save Yours
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (IzkpO)
84
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Pauly Quisling is a real shitweasel. No offense to shitweasels
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Pauly Quisling is a real shitweasel. No offense to shitweasels
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (4ng05)
86
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
How...Soviet.
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
How...Soviet.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (+wjl1)
87
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Do these assholes even listen to what comes out of their mouths?
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Do these assholes even listen to what comes out of their mouths?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (zp+j1)
88
College educated whites have been bobos for a while. David Brooks coined that. Yes, that David Brooks.
Kurt Schlicter gets it. Read his latest.
The schism started a while ago.
Kurt Schlicter gets it. Read his latest.
The schism started a while ago.
Posted by: blaster at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (tewYv)
89
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM
I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (MSaTJ)
90
College educated=indoctrinated=brainwashed
I'd like to see the regions and states and cities these people were born and raised before college.
I'd like to see the regions and states and cities these people were born and raised before college.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (jeefx)
91
Only worrying about sand crabs and which beer to
drink seems a far cry better than worrying about Hillary accidentally
giving us a nip-slip during a coughing fit.
Ha ha.
Made you visualize.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (2PHKP)
You bastard.
drink seems a far cry better than worrying about Hillary accidentally
giving us a nip-slip during a coughing fit.
Ha ha.
Made you visualize.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (2PHKP)
You bastard.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (oKE6c)
92
I know which party I'm now supporting.
Posted by: SMOD's GOT A BETTER WAY at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (Sp1NT)
93
73 Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Excuse Me I think You meant to say The Democrats..
Excuse Me I think You meant to say The Democrats..
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (O2RFr)
94
Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
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Welcome New Single Name Poster!!!!!
I note a tinge of concern on your post!!
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
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Welcome New Single Name Poster!!!!!
I note a tinge of concern on your post!!
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (8XRCm)
95
Point me in the direction of the warrior tribe. Don't worry about specifics. I'll find them.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (Fmupd)
96
89 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:32 PM
I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (MSaTJ)
So, you'll vote for Hillary or stay at home? Thanks.
I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (MSaTJ)
So, you'll vote for Hillary or stay at home? Thanks.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (27m1/)
97
Do these assholes even listen to what comes out of their mouths?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (zp+j1)
Rhetorical, I presume.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (zp+j1)
Rhetorical, I presume.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (2PHKP)
98
Tribe is misused these days. The real meaning is more akin to an extended clan.
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (wmxwV)
99
This race is not easily understood right now. The Daily Mail, for example, has a poll out saying Hillary is failing almost completely to attract both Hispanic and young voters.
http://tinyurl.com/hccoa62
http://tinyurl.com/hccoa62
Posted by: MTF at July 12, 2016 01:38 PM (/m8T6)
100
18 I no longer trust poles.
I don't blame you. After last night, when it came loose, and I fell, breaking my nose on the floor, neither do I.
I don't blame you. After last night, when it came loose, and I fell, breaking my nose on the floor, neither do I.
Posted by: Tyffanny at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (+Q9b4)
101
I no longer trust poles.
-
Yeah, I learned my lesson when I bought that Polish bowling ball and it turned out to be a cinder block.
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Yeah, I learned my lesson when I bought that Polish bowling ball and it turned out to be a cinder block.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (Nwg0u)
102
College-educated tend to vote Republican? That's...interesting. And suspect. But nonetheless, so it's Trump they're scared of, and they'd rather support Hillary. Who is a very known known. But that's not scary. O-kaaay.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (+FSld)
Trump is a h8er and they can't vote for someone who is the acceptable choice of social media or some idiot in Hollywood
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 12, 2016 01:36 PM (+FSld)
Trump is a h8er and they can't vote for someone who is the acceptable choice of social media or some idiot in Hollywood
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (493sH)
103
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a
personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a
border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Hear, hear!
That's amazing doublethink there.
personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a
border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Hear, hear!
That's amazing doublethink there.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (oKE6c)
104
Polls schmolls.
I am going to do everything I can to make sure Trump wins, because the alternative is unacceptable.
If Hillary wins then that means she probably gets the senate as well and probably makes a dent in the house as well, in which case the GOP ceases to be a functioning party at the national level.
Which effectively amounts to Barracks 3rd term and with him working on the outside to continue his "fundamental transformation" I see the effective collapse of the America experiment sometime around 2020.
I am going to do everything I can to make sure Trump wins, because the alternative is unacceptable.
If Hillary wins then that means she probably gets the senate as well and probably makes a dent in the house as well, in which case the GOP ceases to be a functioning party at the national level.
Which effectively amounts to Barracks 3rd term and with him working on the outside to continue his "fundamental transformation" I see the effective collapse of the America experiment sometime around 2020.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (jL9EW)
105
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
THAT right there should sink him from ever holding office ever again.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
THAT right there should sink him from ever holding office ever again.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (I1MCJ)
Posted by: Paul "I Fart in Your General Direction" Ryan at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (2PHKP)
107
I don't blame you. After last night, when it came loose, and I fell, breaking my nose on the floor, neither do I.
Posted by: Tyffanny at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (+Q9b4)
As G-D is my witness Tyff, I thought those tits of yours would break your fall
Posted by: Tyffanny at July 12, 2016 01:39 PM (+Q9b4)
As G-D is my witness Tyff, I thought those tits of yours would break your fall
Posted by: Pole at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (zp+j1)
108
So has obama given his "speech" yet in Dallas?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (O2RFr)
109
Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob
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Have some butt cream, Bob.
Posted by: Bob
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Have some butt cream, Bob.
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (wmxwV)
110
all politics is local. the politics in my town of 2500 people is fucked. good luck, america, you'll need it. people are totally dumbed down. it will only get worse.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (ucDmr)
111
19
The office RINOS are voting for Hillary because Trump is too scary for them. I'm sure the soccer moms and their beta male husbands or things will vote that way too.....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM
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This is the demographic that Trump HAS to get if he is to have any chance of winning.
It will be hard because he is an embarrassing biiiiiigot (etc., etc., blah, blah) and he is scary.
IMO, it is the second factor that is most important.
(We still have a secret ballot so you can vote for someone socially unacceptable and get away with it.)
He HAS to convince these people (primarily women) that he is sane, sober, thoughtful, and emotionally mature.
Not an easy task, to put it gently.
The office RINOS are voting for Hillary because Trump is too scary for them. I'm sure the soccer moms and their beta male husbands or things will vote that way too.....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM
-----------------------------------
This is the demographic that Trump HAS to get if he is to have any chance of winning.
It will be hard because he is an embarrassing biiiiiigot (etc., etc., blah, blah) and he is scary.
IMO, it is the second factor that is most important.
(We still have a secret ballot so you can vote for someone socially unacceptable and get away with it.)
He HAS to convince these people (primarily women) that he is sane, sober, thoughtful, and emotionally mature.
Not an easy task, to put it gently.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (+wjl1)
113
Off Monty Sock
Posted by: Paul at July 12, 2016 01:40 PM (2PHKP)
114
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
That is a threat. Sort of veiled, but 100% threat.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
That is a threat. Sort of veiled, but 100% threat.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jeefx)
115
President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
I mean... he's not technically wrong. If he were to stand up in solidarity with the police, and condemn the people supporting the violence, that'd go a long way.
But of course he didn't mean it like that.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
I mean... he's not technically wrong. If he were to stand up in solidarity with the police, and condemn the people supporting the violence, that'd go a long way.
But of course he didn't mean it like that.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (KUaJL)
116
Dammit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (2PHKP)
117
78 House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Yeah logic and intellectual consistency seem to be a rare commodity these days.
Shame too.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Yeah logic and intellectual consistency seem to be a rare commodity these days.
Shame too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (3ZoRf)
118
College-educated tend to vote Republican? That's...interesting. And suspect. "
Especially suspect. As in "I don't believe a word of it"...
Smells like Must Not Let Trump Win
Especially suspect. As in "I don't believe a word of it"...
Smells like Must Not Let Trump Win
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (C9pBZ)
119
SO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (zp+j1)
120
Wall for me, none for thee.
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Is he preventing you from building your own wall around your house?
- will now go into hiding
- on serious note, I get the comparison, but I don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then it is an apt analogy).
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Is he preventing you from building your own wall around your house?
- will now go into hiding
- on serious note, I get the comparison, but I don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
121
They need to drill down more in this demographic. I'm pretty sure that it actually breaks down like this:
People with useless Gender/Social-Justice degrees from Ivy league colleges: Hillary 95%-Trump 5%
People with degrees from lame-ass community colleges who were shunted through just so long as they paid the tuition: Hillary 80%-Trump 20%
People over 50 who got a college degree in something useful when it actually meant something, and was a noteworthy achievement, and the course of study wasn't contaminated by leftist indoctrination: Trump 90%-Hillary 10%
People with useless Gender/Social-Justice degrees from Ivy league colleges: Hillary 95%-Trump 5%
People with degrees from lame-ass community colleges who were shunted through just so long as they paid the tuition: Hillary 80%-Trump 20%
People over 50 who got a college degree in something useful when it actually meant something, and was a noteworthy achievement, and the course of study wasn't contaminated by leftist indoctrination: Trump 90%-Hillary 10%
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jBuUi)
122
94 Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I believe you're right, "Bob". Where would AoSHQ be without your brilliant insight?
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I believe you're right, "Bob". Where would AoSHQ be without your brilliant insight?
Posted by: "Carl" at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (egyCj)
Posted by: William Randolph at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (okiLt)
124
Maybe somebody in the GOP will get up off their bloated ass and set up a social media campaign intended to convince Bernie-Bots that they should lodge a protest against Wall Street by voting for the Greens.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (PjWy4)
125
Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP
nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the
presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob
Ow.
nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the
presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob
Ow.
Posted by: The Chicken at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (eyEhC)
126
Whatever you do, don't base your vote on objectives or principles or anything having to do with what you believe.
Base it on perception and public opinion.
Failing that, ask yourself: how does my vote conform to the aesthetics of prevailing political ideology?
Base it on perception and public opinion.
Failing that, ask yourself: how does my vote conform to the aesthetics of prevailing political ideology?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM (wOKJp)
127
"I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible
for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than
anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has."
when does your history start ? just checking
for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than
anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has."
when does your history start ? just checking
Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM (c6/9Q)
128
49
Does college-educated trend Republican? I honestly thought that was a Democrat demographic.
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Same here. I was surprised to see that Romney carried them substantially
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)
You are confusing current college students with ALL college grads.
I've seen many studies showing that the Dems appeal to people at either extreme as far as formal education goes. They get the high school dropouts and the PhDs, just as they get the poor and the very wealthy.
The GOP attracts people who hold bachelor's degrees but have not gone on to grad school (and tend to be middle income types).
Now of course, you can find outliers but that has been the general pattern for a while.
Does college-educated trend Republican? I honestly thought that was a Democrat demographic.
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Same here. I was surprised to see that Romney carried them substantially
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)
You are confusing current college students with ALL college grads.
I've seen many studies showing that the Dems appeal to people at either extreme as far as formal education goes. They get the high school dropouts and the PhDs, just as they get the poor and the very wealthy.
The GOP attracts people who hold bachelor's degrees but have not gone on to grad school (and tend to be middle income types).
Now of course, you can find outliers but that has been the general pattern for a while.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: X at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM (nFwvY)
130
I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
Posted by: kronos
You might want to replace Trump with Hillary.
Oh, wait! She already HAS betrayed the US.
Posted by: kronos
You might want to replace Trump with Hillary.
Oh, wait! She already HAS betrayed the US.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM (I1MCJ)
131
Hillary! -> Icon for the broke hip generation.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (kD4oG)
132
Could be nothing. Read the survey notes.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (rghYc)
133
114 President Barack Obama told a gathering of law enforcement officials on Monday that he was critical to their efforts to reconcile with the black community: "I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
That is a threat. Sort of veiled, but 100% threat.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jeefx)
"Nice business you got there. Sure would be a shame if anything were to happen to it."
Posted by: Mallflower at July 12, 2016 01:34 PM (qSIlh)
That is a threat. Sort of veiled, but 100% threat.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jeefx)
"Nice business you got there. Sure would be a shame if anything were to happen to it."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (oKE6c)
134
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
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Got a link? That sounds plausible, but insane.
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
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Got a link? That sounds plausible, but insane.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
135
I'm the only Bob around here. Don't try to access your hard disk, "Bob," I'm busy reading it.
Posted by: Bob from the NSA at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (PjWy4)
136
And maybe I shouldn't have just deleted that spam email about a Costa Rican vacation for cheap...
I need to win the lottery.
I need to win the lottery.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (kD4oG)
137
BTW, from the link at tepid fume: "a demo Mitt Romney won by double digits four years ago"
Yet exit poll data indicates a 51/47 split. Where did bloomberg get their data? Tepid fume doesn't say...
Yet exit poll data indicates a 51/47 split. Where did bloomberg get their data? Tepid fume doesn't say...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (C9pBZ)
138
"Nice business you got there. Sure would be a shame if anything were to happen to it."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (oKE6c)
Where do you think our government learned all this shit from? Why let the mob have all the fun?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (oKE6c)
Where do you think our government learned all this shit from? Why let the mob have all the fun?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (2PHKP)
139
"I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
Barry X-Tortion
Barry X-Tortion
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (IzkpO)
140
This is sort of on topic but what's with ll the Newtomania coming from Hanniity? Newt? Really?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (O2RFr)
141
Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM
Probably around the end of the Civil War.
Also, what happened to the burn it down option? Is that not still an accepted position? It seemed to be the dominant thought around here circa 2012.
Probably around the end of the Civil War.
Also, what happened to the burn it down option? Is that not still an accepted position? It seemed to be the dominant thought around here circa 2012.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (MSaTJ)
142
Just got notice that NY Central Art Supply is going out of business. All the large art supply stores have folded. Sob! What does is mean??!!
Just got notice that NY Central Art Supply is going out of business. All the large art supply stores have folded. Sob! What does is mean??!!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (iQIUe)
143
I'm soooo Ready For Hillary!!11!! She makes me feel safe.
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (vtcmf)
144
122 94 Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I know, right? Just like you, "Bob, I'm a concerned conservative who thinks Trump is a complete disaster. So I may have to vote for Hillary. I know that's bad, but it's the true conservative choice.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I know, right? Just like you, "Bob, I'm a concerned conservative who thinks Trump is a complete disaster. So I may have to vote for Hillary. I know that's bad, but it's the true conservative choice.
Posted by: "John" at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (egyCj)
145
121 They need to drill down more in this demographic. I'm pretty sure that it actually breaks down like this:
People with useless Gender/Social-Justice degrees from Ivy league colleges: Hillary 95%-Trump 5%
People with degrees from lame-ass community colleges who were shunted through just so long as they paid the tuition: Hillary 80%-Trump 20%
People over 50 who got a college degree in something useful when it actually meant something, and was a noteworthy achievement, and the course of study wasn't contaminated by leftist indoctrination: Trump 90%-Hillary 10%
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jBuUi)
I suspect you're right. Other probably correlates: paying taxes, on one hand, and having worked as a barista in the last five years.
People with useless Gender/Social-Justice degrees from Ivy league colleges: Hillary 95%-Trump 5%
People with degrees from lame-ass community colleges who were shunted through just so long as they paid the tuition: Hillary 80%-Trump 20%
People over 50 who got a college degree in something useful when it actually meant something, and was a noteworthy achievement, and the course of study wasn't contaminated by leftist indoctrination: Trump 90%-Hillary 10%
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (jBuUi)
I suspect you're right. Other probably correlates: paying taxes, on one hand, and having worked as a barista in the last five years.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (oKE6c)
146
I always heard that college educated went heavily Democrat. This is the first I've ever heard that they've leaned Republican. I don't know about this.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (dFi94)
147
I'm just going to say this, because it needs to be said, and nobody with any "standing" on the right is allowed to say this:
Lots of folks who will eventually vote for Trump are now saying they won't vote for Trump.
Why? Because they can. They can say it, but they won't be following through on it. And the more people feel the need to argue and fume and say "no way!.," the more it means that yes, this is just a thing they have to go through.
Go through it, they will.
You will hold your nose and vote for Trump. Whether you know it or not, whether you will say it out loud or not. You will.
Lots of folks who will eventually vote for Trump are now saying they won't vote for Trump.
Why? Because they can. They can say it, but they won't be following through on it. And the more people feel the need to argue and fume and say "no way!.," the more it means that yes, this is just a thing they have to go through.
Go through it, they will.
You will hold your nose and vote for Trump. Whether you know it or not, whether you will say it out loud or not. You will.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (TOk1P)
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This is sort of on topic but what's with ll the Newtomania coming from Hanniity? Newt? Really?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (O2RFr)
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Im hoping for Newt.
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (O2RFr)
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Im hoping for Newt.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (8XRCm)
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This is sort of on topic but what's with ll the Newtomania coming from Hanniity? Newt? Really?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (O2RFr)
He's a frequent guest of his program. He has a vested interest
This is sort of on topic but what's with ll the Newtomania coming from Hanniity? Newt? Really?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:44 PM (O2RFr)
He's a frequent guest of his program. He has a vested interest
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (2PHKP)
150
Recent college grads vote Democrat. People with college degrees who have seen years of escalating taxes get poured down a sinkhole vote Republican.
Posted by: Ted K. at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (mU2P/)
151
Cornell Professor Russell Rickford
you can google it."
Must be one of those College Republicans.
you can google it."
Must be one of those College Republicans.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (C9pBZ)
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123 Cornell Professor Russell Rickford
you can google it.
Posted by: William Randolph at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (okiLt)
Heard this asshole via Rush. He was laughing (I'm sure not cavalierly) but this man is dangerous.
What to do, what to do?
you can google it.
Posted by: William Randolph at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (okiLt)
Heard this asshole via Rush. He was laughing (I'm sure not cavalierly) but this man is dangerous.
What to do, what to do?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (27m1/)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (I1MCJ)
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I don't trust the Poles either, with their pierogis and accordions and polkas.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (ePcUK)
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653 college educated likely voters. Nothing about party affiliation.
"everything that guy just said is bullshit. Thank you. "
"everything that guy just said is bullshit. Thank you. "
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (rghYc)
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (O2RFr)
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I get the comparison, but I don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Makes no difference. Ryan's defense of a wall is that he needs one for security. That doesn't apply to the nation?
I get the comparison, but I don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Makes no difference. Ryan's defense of a wall is that he needs one for security. That doesn't apply to the nation?
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (pC96u)
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Just got notice that NY Central Art Supply is going out of business. All the large art supply stores have folded. Sob! What does is mean??!!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Drawing apps on the iPad is what it means.
Many people (including yours truly) have switched to digital graphics creation. There's a decreasing demographic of anyone who even needs art supplies anymore, even in the art field.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Drawing apps on the iPad is what it means.
Many people (including yours truly) have switched to digital graphics creation. There's a decreasing demographic of anyone who even needs art supplies anymore, even in the art field.
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (jBuUi)
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You will hold your nose and vote for Trump. Whether you know it or not, whether you will say it out loud or not. You will.
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I suspect you are right. But there are still going to be a lot of people who have always voted GOP that will not vote for Trump too.
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I suspect you are right. But there are still going to be a lot of people who have always voted GOP that will not vote for Trump too.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (27m1/)
161
House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
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Got a link? That sounds plausible, but insane.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
Breitbart
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
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Got a link? That sounds plausible, but insane.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
Breitbart
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (zp+j1)
162
Give Newt NASA to play with once Trump is in office.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (kD4oG)
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (O2RFr)
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- on serious note, I get the comparison, but I
don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then
it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Ryan has spent his entire adult life in DC (20-25 years).
- on serious note, I get the comparison, but I
don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then
it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Ryan has spent his entire adult life in DC (20-25 years).
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (MIKMs)
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146 I always heard that college educated went heavily Democrat. This is the first I've ever heard that they've leaned Republican. I don't know about this.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (dFi94)
Oh, I do. It's a complete wagon-load of horse apples.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (dFi94)
Oh, I do. It's a complete wagon-load of horse apples.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (egyCj)
166
What is the big deal about college? The dumbest people I've ever met I met in college.
Posted by: josephistan at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (7HtZB)
167
Obama is about to get a treat. One of my friends there advises that Obama will get their backs.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (rghYc)
168
Makes no difference. Ryan's defense of a wall is that he needs one for security. That doesn't apply to the nation?
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (pC96u)
Exactly. To establish security, he wants to be able to control who enters his property. The analogy is exact.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:47 PM (pC96u)
Exactly. To establish security, he wants to be able to control who enters his property. The analogy is exact.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (oKE6c)
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Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
You mean, as opposed to whom the Democraps have selected: the ignorant, vile, incompetent drunken bitch who's completely unfit for the presidency? Just a thought.
Oh, and, Hi! first-name guy!
You mean, as opposed to whom the Democraps have selected: the ignorant, vile, incompetent drunken bitch who's completely unfit for the presidency? Just a thought.
Oh, and, Hi! first-name guy!
Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (69cHf)
170
Newt for Trump Court Jester.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (eyEhC)
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146 I always heard that college educated went heavily Democrat. This is the first I've ever heard that they've leaned Republican. I don't know about this.
Makes perfect sense when you are trying to shape opinion.
Makes perfect sense when you are trying to shape opinion.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (I1MCJ)
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163 I'm hoping for Newt to go far far away.
And take His Stepford Wife with Him...
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (O2RFr)
Yeah, talk about someone who's past his sell-by date...
And take His Stepford Wife with Him...
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (O2RFr)
Yeah, talk about someone who's past his sell-by date...
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (egyCj)
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141 Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 01:42 PM
Probably around the end of the Civil War.
Also, what happened to the burn it down option? Is that not still an accepted position? It seemed to be the dominant thought around here circa 2012.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (MSaTJ)
Shouldn't you be minding your quartet?
Probably around the end of the Civil War.
Also, what happened to the burn it down option? Is that not still an accepted position? It seemed to be the dominant thought around here circa 2012.
Posted by: kronos at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (MSaTJ)
Shouldn't you be minding your quartet?
Posted by: Bob from the NSA at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (PjWy4)
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If his opposition plays it right (and it would be hard not to), Ryan just flushed his chances down the shitter.
What a stupid, idiotic, inane thing to say.
If his opposition plays it right (and it would be hard not to), Ryan just flushed his chances down the shitter.
What a stupid, idiotic, inane thing to say.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (27m1/)
175
Let's see...what can I say today that will please my lefty friends?
Posted by: The Newtster at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (vtcmf)
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Ryan has spent his entire adult life in DC (20-25 years).
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (MIKMs)
He's an adult? I just presumed he was a college student.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (MIKMs)
He's an adult? I just presumed he was a college student.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (oKE6c)
177
This will be the summer of our discontent perpetual gaslighting polls.
I am certain that polling organizations have perfected the necessary technology to give the desired results to whomever pays them enough money.
I am certain that polling organizations have perfected the necessary technology to give the desired results to whomever pays them enough money.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (ZnIt3)
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167 Obama is about to get a treat. One of my friends there advises that Obama will get their backs
So wish it were true.... Of course if He walks in with W the media will just say it was aimed at Him...
So wish it were true.... Of course if He walks in with W the media will just say it was aimed at Him...
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (O2RFr)
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I can certainly see the appeal in that position. It's just impossible for me to get over the feeling that Trump will betray us more than anyone else in history and perhaps won't even know that he has.
Posted by: kronos
You might want to replace Trump with Hillary.
Oh, wait! She already HAS betrayed the US.
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And after barely escaping indictment by the skin of her dentures she'll be careful to never commit felonies again.
Posted by: kronos
You might want to replace Trump with Hillary.
Oh, wait! She already HAS betrayed the US.
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And after barely escaping indictment by the skin of her dentures she'll be careful to never commit felonies again.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: IP at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (Fol9S)
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If his opposition plays it right (and it would be hard not to), Ryan just flushed his chances down the shitter.
What a stupid, idiotic, inane thing to say.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (27m1/)
My thought exactly.
"Earl Warren syndrome" can be pretty ugly.
What a stupid, idiotic, inane thing to say.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (27m1/)
My thought exactly.
"Earl Warren syndrome" can be pretty ugly.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (oKE6c)
182
I get the comparison, but I don't think it a perfect one - unless his is government paid for (then it is an apt analogy).
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Makes no difference. Ryan's defense of a wall is that he needs one for security. That doesn't apply to the nation?
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:41 PM (gmeXX)
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Makes no difference. Ryan's defense of a wall is that he needs one for security. That doesn't apply to the nation?
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
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This could be an outlier, or it could be a sign of what I've been observing/predicting for some time: Politics is breaking down less on ideology now and more on strictly class-based grounds, and the college-educated are Signalling their distinction from the hoi polloi by defecting to the Democrats-- a party that keeps a firm lid on that nasty, vulgar populism (at least among whites-- they've sold populism and grievance to minority groups for 60 years) and is much more comfortable championing elitism and credentialism.
There may be another explanation. Or perhaps more accurately a corollary reason.
More women than men are now graduating from college and idiotic 20something women vote heavily Dem. Now, I will be the first to admit that I was an idiotic 20something (and 30something and 40something) but at least I was never that idiotic.
The class distinction is valid, of course. But sheer demographics is also at issue.
There may be another explanation. Or perhaps more accurately a corollary reason.
More women than men are now graduating from college and idiotic 20something women vote heavily Dem. Now, I will be the first to admit that I was an idiotic 20something (and 30something and 40something) but at least I was never that idiotic.
The class distinction is valid, of course. But sheer demographics is also at issue.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (mf5HN)
184
You are confusing current college students with ALL college grads.
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Okay, I see the difference.
It's another reason why Trump should cut federal funding for colleges. The Diversity Deans and Community Centers and Sensitivity Training would dry up, leaving no money for anything but (shudder) education.
You are confusing current college students with ALL college grads.
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Okay, I see the difference.
It's another reason why Trump should cut federal funding for colleges. The Diversity Deans and Community Centers and Sensitivity Training would dry up, leaving no money for anything but (shudder) education.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (pC96u)
185
Im hoping for Newt.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (8XRCm)
Me too. And now that you mention it, the tweet that went out today, about Sanders/Hillory being like Occupy and Goldman Sacs teaming up sounds more like Noot than the Don.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (8XRCm)
Me too. And now that you mention it, the tweet that went out today, about Sanders/Hillory being like Occupy and Goldman Sacs teaming up sounds more like Noot than the Don.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (TOk1P)
186
"Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought."
Posted by: Bob
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So? The Dems nominated a scheming, lying, ego-maniacal, treasonous, ruthless, sociopathic, incompetent, grasping, totally corrupt bitch completely unfit for the presidency of a junior-high student council.
Posted by: Bob
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So? The Dems nominated a scheming, lying, ego-maniacal, treasonous, ruthless, sociopathic, incompetent, grasping, totally corrupt bitch completely unfit for the presidency of a junior-high student council.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (T/5A0)
187
Bloomberg Poll Finds White College-Educated Vote Has Flipped to Hillary
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Yeah - they flipped over from Bernie.
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Yeah - they flipped over from Bernie.
Posted by: Roy at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (VndSC)
188
I am certain that polling organizations have
perfected the necessary technology to give the desired results to
whomever pays them enough money.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (ZnIt3)
Technology? All they need is a pencil.
perfected the necessary technology to give the desired results to
whomever pays them enough money.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (ZnIt3)
Technology? All they need is a pencil.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (oKE6c)
189
Got a link? That sounds plausible, but insane.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
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I know Nehlen had a group of protestors camped outside Ryan's home, with signs about the country's borders and the irony of Paul Ryan's walled lawn. He might have been responding to that. I didn't get any emails about it like I usually do.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
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I know Nehlen had a group of protestors camped outside Ryan's home, with signs about the country's borders and the irony of Paul Ryan's walled lawn. He might have been responding to that. I didn't get any emails about it like I usually do.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (dFi94)
190
167
Obama is about to get a treat. One of my friends there advises that Obama will get their backs.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (rghYc)
I'm hoping for a never-ending applause for W, and a silent back turn for Prezzy Sea-Level Lowerer.
Obama is about to get a treat. One of my friends there advises that Obama will get their backs.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (rghYc)
I'm hoping for a never-ending applause for W, and a silent back turn for Prezzy Sea-Level Lowerer.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (2PHKP)
191
Im hoping for Newt.
Seriously?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (O2RFr)
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Yup.
The guy that forced Clinton to "end welfare as we know it". The guy that drug Clinton kicking and screaming to a balanced budget. The guy who articulates the Conservative view better than ANYBODY else?? The guy who came up with the Contract for America?? The guy who has a unique grasp of History and its influnce on todays events.
The guy thats also an asshole.
Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Seriously?
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:46 PM (O2RFr)
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Yup.
The guy that forced Clinton to "end welfare as we know it". The guy that drug Clinton kicking and screaming to a balanced budget. The guy who articulates the Conservative view better than ANYBODY else?? The guy who came up with the Contract for America?? The guy who has a unique grasp of History and its influnce on todays events.
The guy thats also an asshole.
Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)
192
Bernie Sanders Supporters are Furious he just Emdorsed Clinton.
See the Daily Caller article. The collection of Tweets are hilarious.
See the Daily Caller article. The collection of Tweets are hilarious.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (rghYc)
193
We've asked 1600 residents of western suburbs; Would you support half-way homes for pedophiles built in residential areas of eastern suburbs?
Strongly approve: 12%
Somewhat approve: 14%
Better than in my neighborhood: 54%
Strongly disapprove: 20%
Headline
POLL SHOWS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR RESIDENTIAL HALF-WAY HOME
ps just my take on the current state of polling
Strongly approve: 12%
Somewhat approve: 14%
Better than in my neighborhood: 54%
Strongly disapprove: 20%
Headline
POLL SHOWS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR RESIDENTIAL HALF-WAY HOME
ps just my take on the current state of polling
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (kKHcp)
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
Except the Federal Gov also STOPS and even Prosecutes Americans who own land on the Border from protecting their own land and their families.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
Except the Federal Gov also STOPS and even Prosecutes Americans who own land on the Border from protecting their own land and their families.
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You said it yourself, ace: from now on out it's tribes that matter. People will align with the tribe that satisfies their big need: either race, or status signaling, or protection.
If that is true, then these "college educated white voters" are really DUMB. They should be voting protection, because the Left is coming after them, and hard.
If that is true, then these "college educated white voters" are really DUMB. They should be voting protection, because the Left is coming after them, and hard.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (ujg0T)
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
You paid for Ryan's wall. Taxes and all that.
Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
You paid for Ryan's wall. Taxes and all that.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (2PHKP)
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>>>78 House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
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Look, its simple. I own my property and can build a wall if I feel like it.
But the dream of america belongs to everyone!
Vote for me in the primary!!!
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
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Look, its simple. I own my property and can build a wall if I feel like it.
But the dream of america belongs to everyone!
Vote for me in the primary!!!
Posted by: Paul Ryan - Forever Flaccid at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (10hEu)
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This presidential race is giving me a sick headache.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 12, 2016 01:52 PM (0mRoj)
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (I1MCJ)
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Some of these polls coming out are pretty interesting, Trump +5 in FL, +2 in Iowa, within the MoE in NV.
Lot's of hand wringing over the lack of spending from Trump last two months vs. the millions of dollars spent by HRC. It's having no effect. He's kind of hanging back around 4 points behind, and up and down and close in a lot of battleground type states.
Trump had another bad week last week. I'm assuming the delegate insurrection is not going to happen. I'm really really interested to see what happens once the dem convention is over.
In my view Trump has been just stalling to get to that point. pulling a rope-a-dope. I guess you have to assume he's capable of that. On the flip side, if you think he stumbled into this by accident, then you wouldn't see that as possible.
Lot's of hand wringing over the lack of spending from Trump last two months vs. the millions of dollars spent by HRC. It's having no effect. He's kind of hanging back around 4 points behind, and up and down and close in a lot of battleground type states.
Trump had another bad week last week. I'm assuming the delegate insurrection is not going to happen. I'm really really interested to see what happens once the dem convention is over.
In my view Trump has been just stalling to get to that point. pulling a rope-a-dope. I guess you have to assume he's capable of that. On the flip side, if you think he stumbled into this by accident, then you wouldn't see that as possible.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Uy8SG)
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The hoi I can stand, but it is the Palloi up with which I shall not put.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (39g3+)
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I'm hoping for Newt to go far far away.
And take His Stepford Wife with Him...
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (O2RFr)
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
And take His Stepford Wife with Him...
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:48 PM (O2RFr)
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
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Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
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It's more than tone deaf. If Americans want to build a wall around our country (not a literal wall necessarily, but if we want to secure our borders), we can't just do it. We need Paul Ryan's permission.
Yes, security for his family. You, me, NGU can build a wall around our house to protect our family too.
I just don't think it is a perfect comparison. It is tone deaf.
Just a minor quibble by me.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (gmeXX)
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It's more than tone deaf. If Americans want to build a wall around our country (not a literal wall necessarily, but if we want to secure our borders), we can't just do it. We need Paul Ryan's permission.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Nwg0u)
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AlextheChick, it takes generations of indoctrination to create the perfect cogs for the machine.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (kD4oG)
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>>>84 House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Pauly Quisling is a real shitweasel. No offense to shitweasels
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (493sH)
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That still hurt
*sniff sniff*
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Pauly Quisling is a real shitweasel. No offense to shitweasels
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (493sH)
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That still hurt
*sniff sniff*
Posted by: Shitweasel at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (10hEu)
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Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I know,its infuriating to think about it when we could have had a great man like Jeb Bush
Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
I know,its infuriating to think about it when we could have had a great man like Jeb Bush
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (O2RFr)
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Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)
The guy that tongue kissed Pelosi on the couch about fighting global warming.
The guy that Elijah Cummings is praising for supporting BLM.
THAT asshole. Please tell me which Newt we can expect to show up at cabinet meetings, m'kay?
Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)
The guy that tongue kissed Pelosi on the couch about fighting global warming.
The guy that Elijah Cummings is praising for supporting BLM.
THAT asshole. Please tell me which Newt we can expect to show up at cabinet meetings, m'kay?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (27m1/)
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Again, people with bachelor's degrees ONLY tend to vote GOP. PhDs and high school dropouts vote D.
I don't know why that's so surprising to people.
The inner cities and barrios have a lot of hs dropouts - are they conservative? College campuses have a lot of people with advanced degrees - are they conservative?
You're going to find a lot of people with BAs in the suburbs - which is where you also find Republicans.
I don't know why that's so surprising to people.
The inner cities and barrios have a lot of hs dropouts - are they conservative? College campuses have a lot of people with advanced degrees - are they conservative?
You're going to find a lot of people with BAs in the suburbs - which is where you also find Republicans.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Jeb! at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (+Q9b4)
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The guy thats also an asshole.
Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)
Hey, I'm an A-HOLE! Why in the world would I want a Veep to be any better than me?
Which Im fine with. We need assholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)
Hey, I'm an A-HOLE! Why in the world would I want a Veep to be any better than me?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (TOk1P)
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It's another reason why Trump should cut federal funding for colleges. The Diversity Deans and Community Centers and Sensitivity Training would dry up, leaving no money for anything but (shudder) education.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (pC96u)
Tax endowments. Also, tax tuitions above a certain amount. (I.e., tax the university, not the payer, and make it sharply progressive (SWIDT?) so the universities don't just raise tuition to offset the tax.)
Another thought: cap the overhead rate paid to universities on research grants (a major source of revenue for operating expenses) at, say, 50%. (It currently runs 75% and up.)
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:50 PM (pC96u)
Tax endowments. Also, tax tuitions above a certain amount. (I.e., tax the university, not the payer, and make it sharply progressive (SWIDT?) so the universities don't just raise tuition to offset the tax.)
Another thought: cap the overhead rate paid to universities on research grants (a major source of revenue for operating expenses) at, say, 50%. (It currently runs 75% and up.)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (O2RFr)
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>>>87 House Speaker Paul Ryan is trying to defend his decision to have a personal border wall to protect his home, while refusing to build a border wall to protect America.
Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Do these assholes even listen to what comes out of their mouths?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (zp+j1)
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What comes out of my mouth depends on what Harry Reid promised not to do in there but still does.
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Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
Do these assholes even listen to what comes out of their mouths?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:37 PM (zp+j1)
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What comes out of my mouth depends on what Harry Reid promised not to do in there but still does.
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Posted by: Paul Ryan - Currently keistering an entire spaghetti squash at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (10hEu)
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In my view Trump has been just stalling to get to that point. pulling a rope-a-dope. I guess you have to assume he's capable of that. On the flip side, if you think he stumbled into this by accident, then you wouldn't see that as possible.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Uy8SG)
That is my read as well. Trying to get maximum effect for his/our buck.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Uy8SG)
That is my read as well. Trying to get maximum effect for his/our buck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (3ZoRf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (kD4oG)
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Keep in mind Ryan is running for election in a single Congressional District, not Statewide or National.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (eyEhC)
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These aren't fresh college graduates; these are ALL whites with a college education. It's not demographics either--this is all Trump.
College educated whites are also the people that bother to vote in lesser elections. The Republican party is absolutely fucked without them.
College educated whites are also the people that bother to vote in lesser elections. The Republican party is absolutely fucked without them.
Posted by: JT at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (CZaQB)
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Paul, get me one of those personal fences. Stat.
Posted by: The Newtster at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: Zombie Hitler at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (7HtZB)
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Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
At this point, General Flynn, Mary Fallin, Jeff Sessions, Tom Cotton, even Mike Pence.
But NOT Newt Gingrich. He's gone off the reservation on too many things.
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
At this point, General Flynn, Mary Fallin, Jeff Sessions, Tom Cotton, even Mike Pence.
But NOT Newt Gingrich. He's gone off the reservation on too many things.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (27m1/)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (GwIKd)
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"I'm your best hope," he declared, according to a police official quoted by the Washington Post.
I dunno, I think TFG needs a 'win' on something, anything and is desperate to be seen as the great healer.
Problem is, his inner black marxist keeps comin' out in Turets-like fashion and thus he keeps steppin' on his dick.
When the BPP starts walkin around Cleveland open-carrying and all hell breaks loose next week... it will be seen by most sane voters as Barry's Fundamentally Transformed America on display.
I dunno, I think TFG needs a 'win' on something, anything and is desperate to be seen as the great healer.
Problem is, his inner black marxist keeps comin' out in Turets-like fashion and thus he keeps steppin' on his dick.
When the BPP starts walkin around Cleveland open-carrying and all hell breaks loose next week... it will be seen by most sane voters as Barry's Fundamentally Transformed America on display.
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TQxRy)
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Keep in mind Ryan is running for election in a single Congressional District, not Statewide or National.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (eyEhC)
So was Cantor
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (eyEhC)
So was Cantor
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (zp+j1)
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My tribe's battle cry is, "Fight For Your Right To Not Give A Fuck!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)
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Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
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A miracle
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (O2RFr)
If that's your honest answer, I don't believe in miracles. I have no intention of waiting for one, but will live in the world we have instead.
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A miracle
Posted by: donna at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (O2RFr)
If that's your honest answer, I don't believe in miracles. I have no intention of waiting for one, but will live in the world we have instead.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TOk1P)
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the tweet that went out today, about Sanders/Hillory being like Occupy and Goldman Sacs teaming up sounds more like Noot than the Don.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Others in these parts detect the hand of Cruz.
the tweet that went out today, about Sanders/Hillory being like Occupy and Goldman Sacs teaming up sounds more like Noot than the Don.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Others in these parts detect the hand of Cruz.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:57 PM (pC96u)
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226 My tribe's battle cry is, "Fight For Your Right To Not Give A Fuck!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)
In Soviet America, Fuck give YOU!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)
In Soviet America, Fuck give YOU!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:57 PM (27m1/)
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The latest craze in the media right now is 'look at those freaks in the GOP committee and what they are saying!'
Meaning: there's a mole in there, and they disagree with the radical left. Mind you, they'll never mention the loony extremist hateful crap the DNC committee is saying.
Meaning: there's a mole in there, and they disagree with the radical left. Mind you, they'll never mention the loony extremist hateful crap the DNC committee is saying.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 12, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)
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He's an adult? I just presumed he was a college student.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (oKE6c)
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Cynically, I am expecting him to start gradually 'graying' his temples to achieve some kind of gravitas.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:49 PM (oKE6c)
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Cynically, I am expecting him to start gradually 'graying' his temples to achieve some kind of gravitas.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 12, 2016 01:57 PM (MIKMs)
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This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that, more and more, "college educated" has become a synonym for "communist indoctrinated", by any chance?
And yes, I have a B.Sc. No sour grapes on my part. Even back then, the Arts faculty was rife with Commies.
And yes, I have a B.Sc. No sour grapes on my part. Even back then, the Arts faculty was rife with Commies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2016 01:57 PM (GSdpU)
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2012 college degree voted for Romney 51/47
Postgraduate voted for TFG 55/42
Postgraduate voted for TFG 55/42
Posted by: Velvet Ambition TEXIT at July 12, 2016 01:58 PM (QPdNE)
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This is a PurpleSlice online poll commissioned by Bloomberg Politics. I'm calling shenanigans, again.
NBC's poll, which is probably slanted to Hillary, has the gap closing to 3%.
Trump can win. Get used to it.
NBC's poll, which is probably slanted to Hillary, has the gap closing to 3%.
Trump can win. Get used to it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2016 01:58 PM (r1fLd)
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The silver lining is that most people in general do not have college degrees. Do most whites? I haven't found data on that, but my guess would be "no."
Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 12, 2016 01:58 PM (vg8iE)
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But NOT Newt Gingrich. He's gone off the reservation on too many things.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Yep. Sofa boy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Yep. Sofa boy.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 12, 2016 01:58 PM (IzkpO)
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I'm uh collige edumacated singul whomin and I wuz a republikan until trump. Now ima gonna voat 4 that laydy caus she kan undurstand me.
Posted by: "rose" at July 12, 2016 01:58 PM (xVgrA)
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Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (oKE6c)
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That's a good breakdown. All I know is "quit giving leftists money."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:54 PM (oKE6c)
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That's a good breakdown. All I know is "quit giving leftists money."
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)
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But NOT Newt Gingrich. He's gone off the reservation on too many things.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I got nothing personal against Newt but he is old and stale
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I got nothing personal against Newt but he is old and stale
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (27m1/)
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216 In my view Trump has been just stalling to get to that point. pulling a rope-a-dope. I guess you have to assume he's capable of that. On the flip side, if you think he stumbled into this by accident, then you wouldn't see that as possible.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Uy8SG)
That is my read as well. Trying to get maximum effect for his/our buck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (3ZoRf)
Mine too. I think he might be well-advised to buy TV time for Hillary. The more visibility she gets, the more her numbers drop.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (Uy8SG)
That is my read as well. Trying to get maximum effect for his/our buck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (3ZoRf)
Mine too. I think he might be well-advised to buy TV time for Hillary. The more visibility she gets, the more her numbers drop.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (oKE6c)
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Noobdy should be applauding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (zp+j1)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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You're not a Nashville Metro cop by any chance, are you?
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You're not a Nashville Metro cop by any chance, are you?
Posted by: Chi at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (Sw6M6)
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You rubes just don't understand how this oligarchy thing works, do you?
Posted by: Paul Ryann at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (vtcmf)
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Keep in mind Ryan is running for election in a single Congressional District, not Statewide or National.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (eyEhC)
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Shoot. I just remembered I won't be here August 9th. I'll have to call the courthouse to see if I can early-vote. I was just there on Friday, darn it.
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (eyEhC)
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Shoot. I just remembered I won't be here August 9th. I'll have to call the courthouse to see if I can early-vote. I was just there on Friday, darn it.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (dFi94)
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239 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (zp+j1)
Not personal, Sonny. Strictly beez-a-neese.
Not personal, Sonny. Strictly beez-a-neese.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (27m1/)
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I no longer trust poles. (...)
Posted by: lightning at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (AP+SF)
Poles are OK. They help single mothers support themselves and their children.
Posted by: lightning at July 12, 2016 01:25 PM (AP+SF)
Poles are OK. They help single mothers support themselves and their children.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (GSdpU)
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Hey Ryan, you know who else had a kid? The Steinles.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (0mRoj)
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Interesting. All of the college educated people I know (except for a couple of lefties) are voting for Trump.
Posted by: Old Texas Chic at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (lLXZV)
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Dallas Memorial - I'll give you one guess who was last to put his hand over his heart as the color guard entered
Dallas Memorial - I'll give you one guess who was last to put his hand over his heart as the color guard entered
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (OE2ur)
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is the mooch frowning?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
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I've got a pole for Hillary.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (eyEhC)
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2012 college degree voted for Romney 51/47
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So it's less accurate to saw Romney Won college graduates than to say he "won" college graduates.
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So it's less accurate to saw Romney Won college graduates than to say he "won" college graduates.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (3Liv/)
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I don't believe in miracles. I have no intention of waiting for one, but will live in the world we have instead.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TOk1P)
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That's one of the saddest things I've ever read.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TOk1P)
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That's one of the saddest things I've ever read.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (dFi94)
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251 is the mooch frowning?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
Outside of scheduled photo-ops, when is she not?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
Outside of scheduled photo-ops, when is she not?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (0mRoj)
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"Ryan has spent his entire adult life in DC (20-25 years)."
copying and pasting from Milton Friedman and Jack Kemp. he was good at it...
copying and pasting from Milton Friedman and Jack Kemp. he was good at it...
Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (c6/9Q)
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College educated whites are also the people that bother to vote in lesser elections. The Republican party is absolutely fucked without them.
Posted by: JT at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (CZaQB)
College educated whites tend to be concerned with law and order. Chaos frightens them.
I expect plenty of chaos between now and the election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate, college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: JT at July 12, 2016 01:55 PM (CZaQB)
College educated whites tend to be concerned with law and order. Chaos frightens them.
I expect plenty of chaos between now and the election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate, college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
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249 The anti-Trump obsession is pathetically hilarious. Keep digging Ace.
Posted by: Billygoatpuke at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (l5QMI)
So are you saying that any analysis of Mr. Trump is anti-Trump?
Hey, he gets my vote for obvious reasons. But to think that he is not seriously flawed on policy issues and that pointing out same is evil/defeatist is just ridiculous.
Posted by: Billygoatpuke at July 12, 2016 02:00 PM (l5QMI)
So are you saying that any analysis of Mr. Trump is anti-Trump?
Hey, he gets my vote for obvious reasons. But to think that he is not seriously flawed on policy issues and that pointing out same is evil/defeatist is just ridiculous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (27m1/)
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That's a good breakdown. All I know is "quit giving leftists money."
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)
Just fleshing out your thought. Universities get away with their SJW departments because the STEM departments bring in Federal money (in the form of grants) into which the universities dip their snouts to fund the Grievance Studies and humanities departments (who, needless to say, don't bring in shit).
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)
Just fleshing out your thought. Universities get away with their SJW departments because the STEM departments bring in Federal money (in the form of grants) into which the universities dip their snouts to fund the Grievance Studies and humanities departments (who, needless to say, don't bring in shit).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (oKE6c)
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In Horde Happy News, last night Captain Whitebread in the pre-ONT thread gave a big thank you to the Horde. Your generous donations have his power bill covered.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (kD4oG)
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Yeah well. If the country elects Hillary even over the buffoon Trump, it deserves every bit of what it's got coming. Of course, I said the same thing after the voters reelected the Stammering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure, so I guess I'm sanguine, or at least, resolved.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (evdj2)
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is the mooch frowning?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
Outside of scheduled photo-ops, when is she not?
Posted by: Insomniac
RBF.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
Outside of scheduled photo-ops, when is she not?
Posted by: Insomniac
RBF.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (I1MCJ)
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is the mooch frowning?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
It's hard to smile with those piranha teeth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
It's hard to smile with those piranha teeth
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (OE2ur)
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Problem is, his inner black marxist keeps comin' out in Turets-like fashion and thus he keeps steppin' on his dick.
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TQxRy)
I'm pretty sure he couldn't step on his dick if he was sitting in the Lotus position.
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 01:56 PM (TQxRy)
I'm pretty sure he couldn't step on his dick if he was sitting in the Lotus position.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (kKHcp)
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copying and pasting from Milton Friedman and Jack Kemp.
Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (c6/9Q)
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You don't care for Friedman or Kemp?
Posted by: runner at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (c6/9Q)
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You don't care for Friedman or Kemp?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: A bear in the woods at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (vtcmf)
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You paid for Ryan's wall. Taxes and all that.
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Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
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As I said, if we paid for his wall that changes my thinking. And he certainly be entitled to a zoning exemption that others are not.
With respect to HOA's - people know the rules when they buy in a neighborhood. If your HOA doesn't let you build a wall, buy in a different neighborhood.
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Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
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As I said, if we paid for his wall that changes my thinking. And he certainly be entitled to a zoning exemption that others are not.
With respect to HOA's - people know the rules when they buy in a neighborhood. If your HOA doesn't let you build a wall, buy in a different neighborhood.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (gmeXX)
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China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
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202---Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
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Someone who will help defeat Hillary by appealing to the very demographic we are talking about here.
Someone who has an aura of maturity and experience, who has not been previously established as colorful, exciting, or "extremist."
Someone rather dull and safe, who will calm the fears of soccer moms.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
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Someone who will help defeat Hillary by appealing to the very demographic we are talking about here.
Someone who has an aura of maturity and experience, who has not been previously established as colorful, exciting, or "extremist."
Someone rather dull and safe, who will calm the fears of soccer moms.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (T/5A0)
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Resolved? Resigned maybe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (F1iXz)
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Personally, I think this poll is a bunch of BS. Look at the internals: Tom Cotton's favorable/unfavorable is 6/14. Mike Pence 10/14. Only 20-25% of the likely voters who are college educated know who Tom Cotton or Mike Pence are with 14% with a negative view?
Obama 57/42 for a group that went double-digits for Romney? Pocahontas at 45/31.
Meanwhile, Newt 26/59, Christie 28/62, and Trump 26/73 have a high of 28 between them? Seems like a massive oversample of dems or anyone associated with the Trump campaign is getting hit.
Obama 57/42 for a group that went double-digits for Romney? Pocahontas at 45/31.
Meanwhile, Newt 26/59, Christie 28/62, and Trump 26/73 have a high of 28 between them? Seems like a massive oversample of dems or anyone associated with the Trump campaign is getting hit.
Posted by: Lymond at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (wH6vD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (zp+j1)
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259 Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (oKE6c)
Don Fanucci just wants to wet his beak.
Don Fanucci just wants to wet his beak.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (27m1/)
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Among likely voters with lawns, and shifty people are standing on those lawns and refusing to get offa them, Trump gets 95% in the latest poll.
Posted by: zombie at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (jBuUi)
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In Horde Happy News, last night Captain Whitebread
in the pre-ONT thread gave a big thank you to the Horde. Your generous
donations have his power bill covered.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (kD4oG)
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Lights for the Captain! Yay!
in the pre-ONT thread gave a big thank you to the Horde. Your generous
donations have his power bill covered.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (kD4oG)
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Lights for the Captain! Yay!
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (dFi94)
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But to think that he is not seriously flawed on policy issues and that pointing out same is evil/defeatist is just ridiculous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (27m1/)
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Yep, as ridiculous as expecting anything but #neverTrump from HotAir.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (27m1/)
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Yep, as ridiculous as expecting anything but #neverTrump from HotAir.
Posted by: IP at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (Fol9S)
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I'm not surprised by this. 40+ years of taking over the education system and indoctrination. Hopefully, they're too lazy to actually get out and vote.
Posted by: lindafell at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (xVgrA)
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268 China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
"How many divisions does the League of Nations have?"
Paraphrasing someone (Stalin?)
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
"How many divisions does the League of Nations have?"
Paraphrasing someone (Stalin?)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (27m1/)
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That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
Thats not hard to do.He positioned himself as a law and order guy yesterday
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
Thats not hard to do.He positioned himself as a law and order guy yesterday
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (lKyWE)
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China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
And China then told everyone to go fuck themselves, especially the USA, and that they will ignore the ruling. And what is Fredo going to do?
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
And China then told everyone to go fuck themselves, especially the USA, and that they will ignore the ruling. And what is Fredo going to do?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Yo! at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (GwIKd)
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I expect plenty of chaos between now and the
election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate,
college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
I think he's a natural for that. Hillary is joined to Obongo at the hip (sorry for visual), and God knows Obongo ("the police acted stupidly") is pro-crime and pro-criminal, leaving "law and order" to Trump by default. Plus, Trump has appeal to working class whites, such as police officers. I bet they endorse him with enthusiasm.
election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate,
college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
I think he's a natural for that. Hillary is joined to Obongo at the hip (sorry for visual), and God knows Obongo ("the police acted stupidly") is pro-crime and pro-criminal, leaving "law and order" to Trump by default. Plus, Trump has appeal to working class whites, such as police officers. I bet they endorse him with enthusiasm.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (I1MCJ)
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AP via Rush: Clinton struggles to make inroads with young Americans.Posted by: J.J. Sefton
After eight years of paying interest only on student loans, with no 'serious' job on the horizon, it wouldn't surprise me that they've been drinking a lot and look at her with a jaundiced eye.
After eight years of paying interest only on student loans, with no 'serious' job on the horizon, it wouldn't surprise me that they've been drinking a lot and look at her with a jaundiced eye.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (ZnIt3)
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Newt? You mean that f'r that sat on a bench with Pelousy in that commercial? No thanks!
Posted by: db at July 12, 2016 02:06 PM (x9kPr)
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Iosef Stalin was asking about Papal divisions. But in WWII it can be argued that the Catholic Church was more effective than the League of Nations.
On second thought, that's not saying much is it??
On second thought, that's not saying much is it??
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 12, 2016 02:06 PM (kD4oG)
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Yep, as ridiculous as expecting anything but #neverTrump from HotAir.
Posted by: IP at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (Fol9S)
True dat. They are still working for Jeb.
Good help us, but we DO need someone besides Trump.
Posted by: IP at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (Fol9S)
True dat. They are still working for Jeb.
Good help us, but we DO need someone besides Trump.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 12, 2016 02:06 PM (F1iXz)
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AP via Rush:
Clinton struggles to make inroads with young Americans.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (27m1/)
All night
She wants the young American
Young American, young American, she wants the young American
All right
She wants the young American
Clinton struggles to make inroads with young Americans.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 01:59 PM (27m1/)
All night
She wants the young American
Young American, young American, she wants the young American
All right
She wants the young American
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 12, 2016 02:07 PM (OE2ur)
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nood
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at July 12, 2016 02:07 PM (eyEhC)
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208
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
A miracle
Posted by: donna
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Did somebody say Miracle?
Great moments... are born from great opportunity.
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
A miracle
Posted by: donna
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Did somebody say Miracle?
Great moments... are born from great opportunity.
Posted by: Herb Brooks at July 12, 2016 02:07 PM (Sw6M6)
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In fairness, drink enough and you will look at everything with a jaundiced eye, and a fatty liver.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 12, 2016 02:07 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 12, 2016 02:07 PM (27m1/)
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Maybe it has nothing to do with class. Maybe it's because the GOP nominated an ignorant, vile buffoon who's completely unfit for the presidency. Just a thought.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
Woo-Hoo! The one-name guys are here. Make sure you punch in, Bob, or you won't get paid.
Posted by: Bob at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (05RBH)
Woo-Hoo! The one-name guys are here. Make sure you punch in, Bob, or you won't get paid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (GSdpU)
295
I expect plenty of chaos between now and the
election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate,
college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
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Not that big an If. He proclaimed it loud and clear yesterday, in those very words. It seems that BLM is playing right into his hands.
I expect plenty of chaos between now and the
election. If Trump can position himself as the law and order candidate,
college educated whites will overcome their distaste.
That's a big if....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:02 PM (u0lmX)
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Not that big an If. He proclaimed it loud and clear yesterday, in those very words. It seems that BLM is playing right into his hands.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (pC96u)
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You paid for Ryan's wall. Taxes and all that.
....
Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
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Janesville isn't exactly the Upper West Side. And he lives in the same neighborhood he grew up in, which means it's not a new subdivision with all kinds of rules. Maybe he had to get approval for a wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he did not.
You paid for Ryan's wall. Taxes and all that.
....
Check with your city zoning/HOA first.
Bet'cha can't.
Bet'cha he CAN get a zoning exemption.
Bet'cha you can't.
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Janesville isn't exactly the Upper West Side. And he lives in the same neighborhood he grew up in, which means it's not a new subdivision with all kinds of rules. Maybe he had to get approval for a wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he did not.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (dFi94)
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"268 China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel."
Putin always invades somewhere during the conventions.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel."
Putin always invades somewhere during the conventions.
Posted by: zmdavid at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (xqRaG)
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An earlier Purple Slice / Bloomberg online poll found "A Whopping 70 Percent of Married Women Dislike Trump"
I wouldn't bet the ranch on any Purple Slice poll.
I wouldn't bet the ranch on any Purple Slice poll.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (r1fLd)
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278
I'm not surprised by this. 40+ years of taking over the education system
and indoctrination. Hopefully, they're too lazy to actually get out and
vote.
Posted by: lindafell at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (xVgrA)
I think at this point, we need to abolish the university system and transition every economic field to a credential system like the one used in tech. It's too rotten to save, and we shouldn't hang on to the traditional system of degrees anymore. Independent colleges would still be needed for difficult subjects like the math used in engineering, but they could get by teaching just their subject and not all of the other stuff.
I'm not surprised by this. 40+ years of taking over the education system
and indoctrination. Hopefully, they're too lazy to actually get out and
vote.
Posted by: lindafell at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (xVgrA)
I think at this point, we need to abolish the university system and transition every economic field to a credential system like the one used in tech. It's too rotten to save, and we shouldn't hang on to the traditional system of degrees anymore. Independent colleges would still be needed for difficult subjects like the math used in engineering, but they could get by teaching just their subject and not all of the other stuff.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (HalrA)
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268 China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
There will be a provocation sooner or later. They've decided to be a hegemon and they've seen that Obama's America is a paper tiger.
We shall see.
The dems still might get their big squirrel.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
There will be a provocation sooner or later. They've decided to be a hegemon and they've seen that Obama's America is a paper tiger.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at July 12, 2016 02:09 PM (PjWy4)
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I think at this point, we need to abolish the university system
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See my position on eliminating college football.
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See my position on eliminating college football.
Posted by: SH at July 12, 2016 02:09 PM (gmeXX)
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Or. You know, Reps went with a retard this time.
Posted by: West Town at July 12, 2016 02:10 PM (4G+Hf)
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268 China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea. We shall see.
How many carrier groups does the U.N. have?
268 China is pissed. UN just told them they don't own the South China Sea. We shall see.
How many carrier groups does the U.N. have?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 12, 2016 02:10 PM (lKyWE)
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Trump the Law and Order candidate? I thought it was Fred Thompson.
Posted by: zmdavid at July 12, 2016 02:11 PM (xqRaG)
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Obama is in a pickle right ?
He cant start spoutin BLM talking points at this memorial or he'll look like an ass.
If he stays silent on it, his homies will say he sold out...
He'll probably make some oblique references to frictions between certain Americans..
and throw in a 'that's not who we are' for bonus points
He cant start spoutin BLM talking points at this memorial or he'll look like an ass.
If he stays silent on it, his homies will say he sold out...
He'll probably make some oblique references to frictions between certain Americans..
and throw in a 'that's not who we are' for bonus points
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 02:11 PM (TQxRy)
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"It's more than tone deaf. If Americans want to build
a wall around our country (not a literal wall necessarily, but if we
want to secure our borders), we can't just do it. We need Paul Ryan's
permission.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (pC96u)"
Yet a wall on the southern border is something that could be done on a private basis.
The Berlin Wall was built of L shaped concrete sections four feet wide and twelve feet tall. The sections were made elsewhere and trucked to the border where they were lifted into place by cranes after the ground they sat on had been smoothed and then they were linked with sections of concrete pipe with a section cut out across the top. There is no reason that land owners within 50 miles or so of the Mexican border could not be contacted and arrangements made to have standard wall sections brought to their property and installed. It would just take people to organize the production, transportation and installation of the wall sections.
People in Wisconsin could make a few sections and pay to have them transported to the property of a cooperative land owner. People in South Carolina could do the same thing. There are companies that make reinforced concrete items all over the country. People can donate money to a local organization so that much of their contribution can be spent locally. Truck drivers might be willing to transport a load of sections if the alternative is to deadhead.
Obviously, there would have to be gaps left where the public roads are but funneling all the traffic onto the public roads would go a long way to getting control of the illegal migration. Besides, if interest remains after the initial line of walls is completed, the property on both sides of the road could also be lined with roads for several miles so that illegal migrants would not have the option of walking through the gap and then disappearing again into the brush.
a wall around our country (not a literal wall necessarily, but if we
want to secure our borders), we can't just do it. We need Paul Ryan's
permission.
Posted by: iforgot at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (pC96u)"
Yet a wall on the southern border is something that could be done on a private basis.
The Berlin Wall was built of L shaped concrete sections four feet wide and twelve feet tall. The sections were made elsewhere and trucked to the border where they were lifted into place by cranes after the ground they sat on had been smoothed and then they were linked with sections of concrete pipe with a section cut out across the top. There is no reason that land owners within 50 miles or so of the Mexican border could not be contacted and arrangements made to have standard wall sections brought to their property and installed. It would just take people to organize the production, transportation and installation of the wall sections.
People in Wisconsin could make a few sections and pay to have them transported to the property of a cooperative land owner. People in South Carolina could do the same thing. There are companies that make reinforced concrete items all over the country. People can donate money to a local organization so that much of their contribution can be spent locally. Truck drivers might be willing to transport a load of sections if the alternative is to deadhead.
Obviously, there would have to be gaps left where the public roads are but funneling all the traffic onto the public roads would go a long way to getting control of the illegal migration. Besides, if interest remains after the initial line of walls is completed, the property on both sides of the road could also be lined with roads for several miles so that illegal migrants would not have the option of walking through the gap and then disappearing again into the brush.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 12, 2016 02:11 PM (QHgTq)
307
278
I'm not surprised by this. 40+ years of taking over the education system
and indoctrination. Hopefully, they're too lazy to actually get out and
vote.
Posted by: lindafell at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (xVgrA)
Or too baked to show up at the right time, or as I call them, "Wednesday voters."
I'm not surprised by this. 40+ years of taking over the education system
and indoctrination. Hopefully, they're too lazy to actually get out and
vote.
Posted by: lindafell at July 12, 2016 02:04 PM (xVgrA)
Or too baked to show up at the right time, or as I call them, "Wednesday voters."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (oKE6c)
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I think at this point, we need to abolish the university system and transition every economic field to a credential system like the one used in tech. It's too rotten to save, and we shouldn't hang on to the traditional system of degrees anymore. Independent colleges would still be needed for difficult subjects like the math used in engineering, but they could get by teaching just their subject and not all of the other stuff.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (HalrA)
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Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy... because the results of that wouldn't be disastrous.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (HalrA)
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Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy... because the results of that wouldn't be disastrous.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)
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298 An earlier Purple Slice / Bloomberg online poll found "A Whopping 70 Percent of Married Women Dislike Trump"
I wouldn't bet the ranch on any Purple Slice poll.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (r1fLd)
Online poll? Good one.
I wouldn't bet the ranch on any Purple Slice poll.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (r1fLd)
Online poll? Good one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:13 PM (oKE6c)
310
Serious question: Who are you hoping for instead?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
This is the big question.
Who is the replacement level Trump pick who changes nothing about the platform?
Probably Christie, right?
Other names floated were
Pence
Gen Mike Flynn
Newt
Giuliani
Joni Ernst (withdrew her own name)
Bob Corker (also withdrew, and thank God)
Sessions
Cotton
Then you've got your "no brainer in a 'normal' election year" gang
Mittens
Tim Pawlenty
Scott Walker
Cruz
Rubio
Kasich
I'll put Walker, Cruz, and Rubio as the ones still in play from that list.
What he really needs is someone bland but respectable to both sides of the aisle. Like a Joe Lieberman or the Republican equivalent.
It won't be a celebrity, although that would, in a "oh boy here we go" kind of way, fucking rule.
Thoughts?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 12, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)
This is the big question.
Who is the replacement level Trump pick who changes nothing about the platform?
Probably Christie, right?
Other names floated were
Pence
Gen Mike Flynn
Newt
Giuliani
Joni Ernst (withdrew her own name)
Bob Corker (also withdrew, and thank God)
Sessions
Cotton
Then you've got your "no brainer in a 'normal' election year" gang
Mittens
Tim Pawlenty
Scott Walker
Cruz
Rubio
Kasich
I'll put Walker, Cruz, and Rubio as the ones still in play from that list.
What he really needs is someone bland but respectable to both sides of the aisle. Like a Joe Lieberman or the Republican equivalent.
It won't be a celebrity, although that would, in a "oh boy here we go" kind of way, fucking rule.
Thoughts?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 12, 2016 02:13 PM (wOKJp)
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Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy...
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Throw in Anatomy and Physiology, and I'm right there with you.
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Throw in Anatomy and Physiology, and I'm right there with you.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 12, 2016 02:13 PM (dFi94)
312
Plus, Trump has appeal to working class whites, such as police officers. I bet they endorse him with enthusiasm.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)
Right, but he already has working class whites. He needs the middle.
I really hope he can do it - but I'm worried he'll put his foot in it again. He's a fighter, but he's not articulate and so the media takes advantage of that to twist everything.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 12, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)
Right, but he already has working class whites. He needs the middle.
I really hope he can do it - but I'm worried he'll put his foot in it again. He's a fighter, but he's not articulate and so the media takes advantage of that to twist everything.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at July 12, 2016 02:14 PM (u0lmX)
313
Just got notice that NY Central Art Supply is going out of business. All the large art supply stores have folded. Sob! What does is mean??!!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (iQIUe)
"Artists" discovered that you can get turds and urine for nothing?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 12, 2016 01:45 PM (iQIUe)
"Artists" discovered that you can get turds and urine for nothing?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2016 02:14 PM (GSdpU)
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305 Obama is in a pickle right ?
He cant start spoutin BLM talking points at this memorial or he'll look like an ass.
If he stays silent on it, his homies will say he sold out...
He'll probably make some oblique references to frictions between certain Americans..
and throw in a 'that's not who we are' for bonus points
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 02:11 PM (TQxRy)
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He'll talk about how beautiful TX golf courses are.
305 Obama is in a pickle right ?
He cant start spoutin BLM talking points at this memorial or he'll look like an ass.
If he stays silent on it, his homies will say he sold out...
He'll probably make some oblique references to frictions between certain Americans..
and throw in a 'that's not who we are' for bonus points
Posted by: McCool at July 12, 2016 02:11 PM (TQxRy)
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He'll talk about how beautiful TX golf courses are.
Posted by: Soona at July 12, 2016 02:14 PM (Fmupd)
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Just got notice that NY Central Art Supply is going out of business. All the large art supply stores have folded. Sob! What does is mean??!!
Like Amazon with bookstores, it means brick and mortar isn't viable.
Like Amazon with bookstores, it means brick and mortar isn't viable.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 12, 2016 02:16 PM (+wjl1)
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Why is it we now have to have a Mohammedan speak at everything?
Why not a Jehovah Witness? Same number of followers.
Right, Obama is a Christian, got it.
Why not a Jehovah Witness? Same number of followers.
Right, Obama is a Christian, got it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 12, 2016 02:16 PM (F1iXz)
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 12, 2016 02:16 PM (F1iXz)
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Ryan says that the reason he needs a personal border wall is because he has three children.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
How tone deaf do you have to be to drop that turd in the punch bowl?
What a fucking retard.
But my children don't count? Fuck you ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 12, 2016 01:35 PM (zp+j1)
How tone deaf do you have to be to drop that turd in the punch bowl?
What a fucking retard.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 12, 2016 02:19 PM (4ErVI)
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I believe virtue signaling is a thing for sure. Think about the two minute hate in 1984. Political correctness has grown like Zudzu, and virtue signaling is a simple gesture that shows you are indeed, politically correct and one of the smart set.
Voting Democrat is an easy, no cost way to signal you are one of the tribe.
I love watching my son grow, and it was great watching him finally blast past me on skis and stand nonchalantly at the bottom of the mountain like he was bored with having to wait for Dad. But I don't envy his youth.
Voting Democrat is an easy, no cost way to signal you are one of the tribe.
I love watching my son grow, and it was great watching him finally blast past me on skis and stand nonchalantly at the bottom of the mountain like he was bored with having to wait for Dad. But I don't envy his youth.
Posted by: RM at July 12, 2016 02:21 PM (U3LtS)
320
Eh, so the current crop are morons.
They get what they deserve. It will be glorious to hear them squeal.
They get what they deserve. It will be glorious to hear them squeal.
Posted by: Drider at July 12, 2016 02:23 PM (bdzyz)
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Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy... because the results of that wouldn't be disastrous.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)
************
Obviously, you're overstating the case, but part of the answer is to teach a lot better in lower grades so that a high school diploma means something. My father had an 8th-grade formal education and my mother 10th, yet I am 100 percent sure that they were both well above the median of today's high chool graduates in reading and math. (My father did, later in life, get a GED because he had to.) So at least part of the answer is to make a high school education mean something, instead of assuming that teaching young adults to read and write is college's problem. Then, once you've done that, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with community college. Most of my children have gone to one before college (or even during, as tuition costs were lower for the same course). We could have something like an A-level that says you're "college ready" before you set foot in a four-year institution. Then as for four-year colleges, it would seem reasonable to incentivize them through the tax code and subsidies to teach STEM and other useful subjects and disincentivize teaching worthless subjects. One way to do that would be to have the subsidies go to the students, rather than the institutions, and subsidize certain classes at different levels of payment. As a student, you might pay 100 percent of the tuition for Black Film Studies and 0 percent for Calculus.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)
************
Obviously, you're overstating the case, but part of the answer is to teach a lot better in lower grades so that a high school diploma means something. My father had an 8th-grade formal education and my mother 10th, yet I am 100 percent sure that they were both well above the median of today's high chool graduates in reading and math. (My father did, later in life, get a GED because he had to.) So at least part of the answer is to make a high school education mean something, instead of assuming that teaching young adults to read and write is college's problem. Then, once you've done that, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with community college. Most of my children have gone to one before college (or even during, as tuition costs were lower for the same course). We could have something like an A-level that says you're "college ready" before you set foot in a four-year institution. Then as for four-year colleges, it would seem reasonable to incentivize them through the tax code and subsidies to teach STEM and other useful subjects and disincentivize teaching worthless subjects. One way to do that would be to have the subsidies go to the students, rather than the institutions, and subsidize certain classes at different levels of payment. As a student, you might pay 100 percent of the tuition for Black Film Studies and 0 percent for Calculus.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 12, 2016 02:24 PM (5f5bM)
322
"I think at this point, we need to abolish the
university system and transition every economic field to a credential
system like the one used in tech. It's too rotten to save, and we
shouldn't hang on to the traditional system of degrees anymore.
Independent colleges would still be needed for difficult subjects like
the math used in engineering, but they could get by teaching just their
subject and not all of the other stuff.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (HalrA)"
Good luck with that.
university system and transition every economic field to a credential
system like the one used in tech. It's too rotten to save, and we
shouldn't hang on to the traditional system of degrees anymore.
Independent colleges would still be needed for difficult subjects like
the math used in engineering, but they could get by teaching just their
subject and not all of the other stuff.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 12, 2016 02:08 PM (HalrA)"
Good luck with that.
Posted by: Griggs v.Duke Power at July 12, 2016 02:24 PM (QHgTq)
323
RCP just posted a Monmouth poll for Iowa. In a 4-way race, Trump leads Hillary by +2. Trump also leads (barely) Hillary in the 18-50 age bracket.
Posted by: mrp at July 12, 2016 02:24 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 12, 2016 02:25 PM (Kucy5)
325
I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)
326
"Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy... because the results of that wouldn't be disastrous.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)"
Surrender the humanities? First you would have to convince me that battle was not lost long ago and the last of the bitter end defenders were not put to the sword.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)"
Surrender the humanities? First you would have to convince me that battle was not lost long ago and the last of the bitter end defenders were not put to the sword.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 12, 2016 02:28 PM (QHgTq)
327
"I'll put Walker, Cruz, and Rubio as the ones still in play from that list."
There is no way in hell Cruz will agree to be running mate for Trump. It will hurt rather than help his future ambitions, and the bridge has been burned to the ground by Trump's campaign tactics in any event. Cruz will give an endorsement to 'the Republican nominee" for the express purpose of stopping Hillary, and subtly emphasize the need for conservatives to prepare for a difficult four years and hang tough against opposition from any quarter (Democrat, GOPe, or Trumpist), no matter what happens.
There is no way in hell Cruz will agree to be running mate for Trump. It will hurt rather than help his future ambitions, and the bridge has been burned to the ground by Trump's campaign tactics in any event. Cruz will give an endorsement to 'the Republican nominee" for the express purpose of stopping Hillary, and subtly emphasize the need for conservatives to prepare for a difficult four years and hang tough against opposition from any quarter (Democrat, GOPe, or Trumpist), no matter what happens.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 12, 2016 02:29 PM (KF8B+)
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#321 They're not teaching the humanities today. The stuff they offer up in place of the classic traditional humanities compares to them in intellectual content the way Sugar Frosted Flakes compares to roast chicken, potatoes and a green vegetable in nutritional value.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 12, 2016 02:29 PM (Kucy5)
329
"325
I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also
voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience
vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit
for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)"
Standard reply:
And Hillary is fit for the presidency?
One of those two will be sworn in as President in January. If it is not him, it will be her.
I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also
voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience
vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit
for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)"
Standard reply:
And Hillary is fit for the presidency?
One of those two will be sworn in as President in January. If it is not him, it will be her.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 12, 2016 02:31 PM (QHgTq)
330
@48 Two things,
1. you are from Alabama so by definition you were already picked last.
2. That was the funniest thing I have read in awhile.
1. you are from Alabama so by definition you were already picked last.
2. That was the funniest thing I have read in awhile.
Posted by: Jonahex at July 12, 2016 02:31 PM (BQ176)
331
Yeah, we should just give up on teaching English, history, philosophy... because the results of that wouldn't be disastrous.
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)
It is too late. The Left has already ruined these.
Arguably, they are ruining the sciences too, think of "climate change" (sic)
There are glaring problems with the university system as it stands, but the solution is not to surrender the humanities.
Posted by: person at July 12, 2016 02:12 PM (mFkVC)
It is too late. The Left has already ruined these.
Arguably, they are ruining the sciences too, think of "climate change" (sic)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2016 02:32 PM (ujg0T)
332
325
I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also
voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience
vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit
for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)
Ernie, I am with you to a point, but Scott Adams made the good observation that whatever one might say about his public persona, there is no indication that in his 69 years he actually behaves in the way he talks. He has great kids, and he is far more successful in business than I am (or than Hillary is), which means somewhere along the line he had to work with people and get things done. You never hear of an ex-Trump insider spilling his or her guts on what a terrible boss he is; on the contrary, they generally say he's great. And we do know what we would get with Hillary, and it is a disaster. I think that means you have to vote Trump and hope for the best.
I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also
voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience
vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit
for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)
Ernie, I am with you to a point, but Scott Adams made the good observation that whatever one might say about his public persona, there is no indication that in his 69 years he actually behaves in the way he talks. He has great kids, and he is far more successful in business than I am (or than Hillary is), which means somewhere along the line he had to work with people and get things done. You never hear of an ex-Trump insider spilling his or her guts on what a terrible boss he is; on the contrary, they generally say he's great. And we do know what we would get with Hillary, and it is a disaster. I think that means you have to vote Trump and hope for the best.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 12, 2016 02:32 PM (5f5bM)
333
the latest Purple Slice online poll for Bloomberg
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Just more Morrissey anti-Trump bashing before the Convention. An effin' online poll? Really? Getting a little desperate, there.
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Just more Morrissey anti-Trump bashing before the Convention. An effin' online poll? Really? Getting a little desperate, there.
Posted by: mrp at July 12, 2016 02:33 PM (JBggj)
334
325 I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. I also voted McCain and Romney in 2008 and 2012. I cannot in good conscience vote for Donald Trump. The man is invincibly ignorant and totally unfit for the presidency.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)
"Bob" already stopped by, Ernie. You two can meet up at the bath house later.
Posted by: Ernie at July 12, 2016 02:27 PM (3tAj2)
"Bob" already stopped by, Ernie. You two can meet up at the bath house later.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 12, 2016 02:33 PM (ujg0T)
335
In what did these college-educated white degree? Women and Black studies?
I didn't follow the links, but I'm not in the buying mood today.
I didn't follow the links, but I'm not in the buying mood today.
Posted by: jazzuscounty at July 12, 2016 02:34 PM (iRHb1)
336
Cruz will give an endorsement to 'the Republican nominee" for the express purpose of stopping Hillary, and subtly emphasize the need for conservatives to prepare for a difficult four years and hang tough against opposition from any quarter (Democrat, GOPe, or Trumpist), no matter what happens.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 12, 2016 02:29 PM (KF8B+)
Further proof that the interests of "Conservatism" and the conservative movement have become more important to conservatives than those of the country itself.
Please do fully and publicly disavow Trump and vote for your imaginary candidate in November. It will help the non-socialist in the race attract normal people.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 12, 2016 02:29 PM (KF8B+)
Further proof that the interests of "Conservatism" and the conservative movement have become more important to conservatives than those of the country itself.
Please do fully and publicly disavow Trump and vote for your imaginary candidate in November. It will help the non-socialist in the race attract normal people.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 12, 2016 02:35 PM (wOKJp)
337
#293 It was Napoleon originally.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 12, 2016 02:35 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: Paladin at July 12, 2016 02:35 PM (QGbEp)
339
Sorry, "Bob", but your name and opinions bring to mind nothing more profound than the contestant on Cheech and Chong's "Let's Make A Dope Deal". Look it up...
It is pretty much a given here that Trump is a loose cannon and often his own worst enemy. But after the reasoned and "considered" positions of McCain and Romney and how they wilted before the onslaught of Barky, having a candidate who strikes back when struck at is refreshing. Is he too unguarded in his responses? Too often, yes. But if we're not prepared ever to strike back, then we should strike our camp and go home.
Sorry, "Bob", but your name and opinions bring to mind nothing more profound than the contestant on Cheech and Chong's "Let's Make A Dope Deal". Look it up...
It is pretty much a given here that Trump is a loose cannon and often his own worst enemy. But after the reasoned and "considered" positions of McCain and Romney and how they wilted before the onslaught of Barky, having a candidate who strikes back when struck at is refreshing. Is he too unguarded in his responses? Too often, yes. But if we're not prepared ever to strike back, then we should strike our camp and go home.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 12, 2016 02:37 PM (fOgSR)
340
I got your pole right here.
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at July 12, 2016 02:45 PM (xudgf)
341
Who would you rather have support you? A bunch of sheltered SJW pantywastes, or the working class people who actually make the country function?
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 12, 2016 02:48 PM (DDM7c)
Posted by: TrigglyPuff at July 12, 2016 02:49 PM (gs8be)
343
"You never hear of an ex-Trump insider spilling his or her guts on what a terrible boss he is; on the contrary, they generally say he's great."
I get your overall point, but I question this. Over the decades I've read about seven or eight books about Trump (including his). There were some horror stories about his behavior as a boss, the rages, the short attention span, the lack of focus on specific issues, some dishonesty, etc.
And on honesty, I'm not talking about a certain grey area in where one draws their lines, like being a bit harder edged than a tough New York concrete contractor or sleazy politician. I'm talking about going back on his word or reneging on a deal with people who simply had no recourse.
I actually liked the guy for the most part until his presidency run, and like his kids now. I'm not a never Trumper, but I do question the idea that he is fair or has a solid ethical core.
I get your overall point, but I question this. Over the decades I've read about seven or eight books about Trump (including his). There were some horror stories about his behavior as a boss, the rages, the short attention span, the lack of focus on specific issues, some dishonesty, etc.
And on honesty, I'm not talking about a certain grey area in where one draws their lines, like being a bit harder edged than a tough New York concrete contractor or sleazy politician. I'm talking about going back on his word or reneging on a deal with people who simply had no recourse.
I actually liked the guy for the most part until his presidency run, and like his kids now. I'm not a never Trumper, but I do question the idea that he is fair or has a solid ethical core.
Posted by: RM at July 12, 2016 02:59 PM (U3LtS)
344
"Further proof that the interests of "Conservatism" and the conservative movement have become more important to conservatives than those of the country itself.
Please do fully and publicly disavow Trump and vote for your imaginary candidate in November. It will help the non-socialist in the race attract normal people."
The interests of conservatism and the country are indivisible, as conservatism is based on the founding principles and purpose of the country. Without that, America is simply a territorial entity inhabited by a majority of people who are some combination of anti-Constitutional, anti-federalist, anti-Southern, or anti-Christian*.
My vote is up to Trump; if he has a reasonable chance to win, I'm voting for him to stop Hillary. So long as Trump enthusiasts insist that people adhere to a party-line about the supposed virtues of Trump, an anti-socialist coalition has no chance of winning.
*I'm agnostic myself, but culturally Christian and not hostile to the religion a majority of my loved ones subscribe to.
Please do fully and publicly disavow Trump and vote for your imaginary candidate in November. It will help the non-socialist in the race attract normal people."
The interests of conservatism and the country are indivisible, as conservatism is based on the founding principles and purpose of the country. Without that, America is simply a territorial entity inhabited by a majority of people who are some combination of anti-Constitutional, anti-federalist, anti-Southern, or anti-Christian*.
My vote is up to Trump; if he has a reasonable chance to win, I'm voting for him to stop Hillary. So long as Trump enthusiasts insist that people adhere to a party-line about the supposed virtues of Trump, an anti-socialist coalition has no chance of winning.
*I'm agnostic myself, but culturally Christian and not hostile to the religion a majority of my loved ones subscribe to.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 12, 2016 03:00 PM (KF8B+)
345
>>I no longer trust poles.
Me neither.
Q: Did you hear about the Polak who thought his wife was trying to kill him?
A: On her dressing table he found a bottle of "Polish Remover".
Me neither.
Q: Did you hear about the Polak who thought his wife was trying to kill him?
A: On her dressing table he found a bottle of "Polish Remover".
Posted by: looking closely at July 12, 2016 03:04 PM (ji45d)
346
College student groups that vote heavily would vote for a Dem every time. Why wouldn't they? Naturally Socialist. For them it is a pocketbook issue.
As they accumulate wealth they flip. Why wouldn't they? Pocketbook issue.
As they accumulate wealth they flip. Why wouldn't they? Pocketbook issue.
Posted by: huh? at July 12, 2016 03:05 PM (jN+3o)
347
Most elections, the graph of Republicans over education is a bell curve.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 12, 2016 03:06 PM (VdICR)
348
I've been a lifelong Team Edward man from 1996 until 2012. But this year is different.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 12, 2016 03:08 PM (VdICR)
349
Trump wins in a landslide. Bill Clinton will be caught in bed with a boy. Livestreamed by a Russian or Chinese agent. Russia and China really need someone rational running the US. Hillary is Caligula in drag.
Posted by: huh? at July 12, 2016 03:09 PM (jN+3o)
350
Bloomberg Dems are autofelating again.
Posted by: bour3 at July 12, 2016 03:14 PM (5x3+2)
351
Most college educated white voters live in the suburbs. They don't like or trust Hillary either, but she is a product of suburban culture and tends to comport herself within boundaries they understand. Trump, a non-urbane urbanite, reminds them of the sleazy big city blowhard pols many of them moved to the suburbs to get away from.
And it is a big deal. The suburbs dominate American politics. Better educated voters, who also tend to own their own homes and have roots in a community via children and participation in local events, vote in much higher numbers than the less educated and less socially connected.
And it is a big deal. The suburbs dominate American politics. Better educated voters, who also tend to own their own homes and have roots in a community via children and participation in local events, vote in much higher numbers than the less educated and less socially connected.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 12, 2016 03:31 PM (XD7nH)
352
I'm college educated; my family is college educated. We despise the Democrats in general, and Hillary in particular, with a hatred that is off the fucking scale.
The Polls are worthless.
They are nothing more than a tool used by an increasingly desperate democratic party to suppress the conservative, or at least anti-Hitlery, vote.
The Polls are worthless.
They are nothing more than a tool used by an increasingly desperate democratic party to suppress the conservative, or at least anti-Hitlery, vote.
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 12, 2016 03:42 PM (yxupc)
353
It's one poll. Trump is up in Iowa, Florida and Ohio, according to some recent and reasonably sound pollsters. The Purple Slice poll is pretty clearly biased.
Polling isn't supposed to be predictive at this point in the cycle, so whether it's one poll or many, it means nothing for either candidate until September.
Polling isn't supposed to be predictive at this point in the cycle, so whether it's one poll or many, it means nothing for either candidate until September.
Posted by: TPC at July 12, 2016 03:45 PM (IFIO3)
354
There's more lower class than upper class. It's just the way it is and they can't change and wouldn't want to change it.
So what if college whites vote for Hillary. They were going to vote for a liberal regardless.
Maybe Jeb or Rubio would've gotten their vote.
But how many more of the lower class are now voting at all because Trump's in the race? I'm guessing because of his event turnout, quite a few.
And surprisingly more minorities than the white media wants to believe.
We're going to have a referendum on which way this country goes and it will solely depend on the undecided who are either not paying attention or don't care.
So what if college whites vote for Hillary. They were going to vote for a liberal regardless.
Maybe Jeb or Rubio would've gotten their vote.
But how many more of the lower class are now voting at all because Trump's in the race? I'm guessing because of his event turnout, quite a few.
And surprisingly more minorities than the white media wants to believe.
We're going to have a referendum on which way this country goes and it will solely depend on the undecided who are either not paying attention or don't care.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 12, 2016 04:00 PM (ECJ+C)
355
Don't worry. Trump says he will win Hispanics.
Posted by: Sexypig at July 12, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)
356
"There's more lower class than upper class. It's just the way it is and they can't change and wouldn't want to change it."
Probably not, actually. We are a rich country.
Probably not, actually. We are a rich country.
Posted by: Sexypig at July 12, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)
357
NO MORE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.....PLEASE!!!!
Posted by: Myshiba at July 12, 2016 05:33 PM (0mskG)
Posted by: Myshiba at July 12, 2016 05:34 PM (0mskG)
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The problem is a lot of college degrees are now useless. We are not talking about engineering students here, but lots of white girls (sexist...so what) with degrees in fields that are meaningless economically without big massive government.
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Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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