Monday Morning News Dump (7/11/16) [Mis. Hum.]

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1 Foist?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 11, 2016 07:46 AM (Xr/+R)

2 I'll get the others

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 07:47 AM (geVJ9)

3 Others got.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 07:47 AM (geVJ9)

4
DAY 1,343

120 to go (192 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, malicious mosquitos, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:49 AM (27m1/)

5 Fredo's America:

Where things get worse every day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 07:51 AM (zp+j1)

6
BLM and Pro Abortion movement defended by Obama.

If only I could write what I want without fear of banning. Or the FBI non-intent intent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:52 AM (27m1/)

7 So if you're the "Chinese" (i.e. hispanic) Minnesota cop who pulls over the car with the driver who bears a strong resemblance to an armed robbery suspect, and you walk up to the driver's window and see that he has a gun lying on his lap, what are the chances that you then say "Sir, may I see your license and/or gun permit?"

The media, including social media, have treated Lavish, a/k/a Diamond Reynolds' videotape account of the shooting as gospel. But it clearly makes no sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 07:52 AM (NnYnv)

8 Paul Ryan has a heckler... that's funny.

Saw a poll yesterday that said he was below 50% for his primary. I don't necessarily believe that, but it makes me smile nonetheless.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2016 07:52 AM (Dj0WE)

9 The Dallas ambush rifle? Morphing assault riffle.
The mayor said he used an AR. Cops said he used an SKS.
Now reports are of an AK-74.

And people wonder why there are conspiracy theories.
Sorry. The rifle used SHOULD be known as soon as the shrapnel quits pinging. Whitman's rifle didn't change 3 times.
Oswald's rifle didn't change.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (geVJ9)

10 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (UpGcq)

11 According to "Black Lives Don't Matter" (sidebar), more cops have been killed in the line of duty so far this year than unarmed black citizens.

Any moment now we can expect to see TFG's #BlueLivesMatter hashtag.

I'll wait.

Posted by: Hollywood Liberals and Academic Marxists at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (/m8T6)

12 Protesters in Minnesota.

Wow, look at all those white people blocking the road.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (SXa8W)

13
Black America post 1965 are our "Palestinian Problem."

An entire group of people kept in misery and squalor to be used as pawns to maintain the political power of the abusers and to be used to attack that group's political enemies and blame them for their misery.

And there's the nub of a future essay. Stay tuned. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (27m1/)

14 Switzerland gets a pass from the libs on for being very nearly all-white and vigorously protecting their national sovereignty and no-shit serious non-pc immigration laws not to mention NOT being a member of the EU. After all, many have dreams of escaping there when things fall apart everywhere else from their policies. They sure as heck aren't going to France.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2016 07:55 AM (1BQGO)

15
Heather McDonald who is an expert on this was on both Rush's and Levin's shows last week after Dallas. She's got the stats in her book "The War on Cops."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:55 AM (27m1/)

16 So I watching an interview of one of the possible Trump choices for VP and the MSM interviewer went straight for the MAJOR issues of this election - abortion and gay marriage.

When UK voters voted for Brexit, many observers discovered what they thought was a deep disconnect between the UK populace and UK political parties. That's true, I think. There is/was this division. But another division that it revealed, as did this interview mentioned above, is a deep disconnect between the populace and the mouthpiece and fish mongers of the elites - the media.

I have argued for years that the divisions and now even more granular subdivisions that our political establishment has been so kind to point out, and to foist upon the electorate in this country, don't represent 1) true divisions, and 2) real issues that the electorate is concerned about.

The divisions that the media keep pounding into our skulls, are fictional divisions that serve the purpose of those who know that having us divided and subdivided makes those who have been made to believe that they exist within these divisions, easier to manage.

The right/left political paradigm is anachronistic, I think, especially at this time. I also argue that there is a likelihood that there are quite possibly large REAL issues facing this country and the world on which large segments of our society could agree if we would just stop listening to - The media AND those who see themselves our rulers.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 07:56 AM (4ng05)

17 14 Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2016 07:55 AM (1BQGO)

What does Tina Turner know that we don't? Ach so. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:56 AM (27m1/)

18 Not supposed to cheer the bull

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 11, 2016 07:57 AM (wmxwV)

19 The media, including social media, have treated Lavish, a/k/a Diamond Reynolds' videotape account of the shooting as gospel. But it clearly makes no sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 07:52 AM (NnYnv)

And as I mentioned last week, her demeanor in that tape is very very very suspicious

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 07:57 AM (zp+j1)

20 16 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 07:56 AM (4ng05)

The first words out of anyone's mouth in response to an interview question by the MFM should be "I reject the premise of your question entirely," and then go from there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:58 AM (27m1/)

21 ***Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (27m1/)

Truer words, etc.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 11, 2016 07:58 AM (qWP4h)

22
Ahhhhhh, dump.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2016 07:58 AM (LuZz8)

23 If Bin Ladens son had a brain in his head he'd apply to Harvard, or -- better yet -- University of Chicago's Alexrod Institute, and start a protest group.

He would have big swaths of frightened supporters in a millisecond. Movie stars, politicians, suburban soccer moms and idiot urban hipsters would turn out on command to protest "America's bloodlust" for Osama.

Thank the lord above this son is a retard. Instead of starting a protest group on the southside, he's in some cave someplace sending out press releases.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 07:59 AM (/m8T6)

24 Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she doesnt even want to contemplate a Donald Trump presidency, during a rare interview released Sunday in which she also talked of heading to New Zealand if the billionaire wins.

FUCK You you SOB

And WHEN EVER did s Supreme Court Judge become overtly political like that. The old bag should resign if she wants to campaign.. Disgusting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 07:59 AM (zp+j1)

25 19 The media, including social media, have treated Lavish, a/k/a Diamond Reynolds' videotape account of the shooting as gospel. But it clearly makes no sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 07:52 AM (NnYnv)

And as I mentioned last week, her demeanor in that tape is very very very suspicious
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 07:57 AM (zp+j1)

Who in their right mind shoots a video of a loved one bleeding out instead of trying to stop the bleeding and calling for help?

If the past has taught us anything about these kind of incidents, it's to wait a very long time before passing judgement. 99.99% of the time, the MFM and the Leftists are lying about what happened.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:00 AM (27m1/)

26 Not supposed to cheer the bull
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 11, 2016 07:57 AM (wmxwV)

Need commonsense bullhorn legislation.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2016 08:00 AM (Dj0WE)

27 "So if you're the "Chinese" (i.e. hispanic) Minnesota cop who pulls over
the car with the driver who bears a strong resemblance to an armed
robbery suspect, and you walk up to the driver's window and see that he
has a gun lying on his lap, what are the chances that you then say "Sir,
may I see your license and/or gun permit?"

According to what I am seeing of Facebook, if you are white and armed when you are pulled over the cop just engages you in friendly conversion and may even remark what a great gun at your side, ask about your gun collection, day at the range etc.. and even give you some tips on better accuracy before sending you on your way without even writing a ticket.

Yep, happens just like that.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2016 08:01 AM (1BQGO)

28 The first words out of anyone's mouth in response to an interview question by the MFM should be "I reject the premise of your question entirely," and then go from there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 07:58 AM (27m1/)

And the second thing (I believe) that they should do is to consider whether this bullshit antagonism that has been manufactured between groups in this country - whites and blacks - is a perfect contemporary example - is really how they feel. In my personal case, I neither want or believe that I hold any, rancor toward blacks as a subset of America.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:01 AM (4ng05)

29 #BLM, Let's Call It What It Is- A Limerick

At the rallies they make such a racket
And if it comes from the cops they attack it
Yet amid all the chatter
At the heart of the #matter
It's naught but a protection racket

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 08:02 AM (mvenn)

30 Why so many critics of President Obama insist that he hates police officers

A recurring theme of extreme criticism of President Obama over his two terms has been that he secretly harbors hostility toward things central to the American identity. He secretly hates Christianity. He secretly hates the Constitution. He secretly hates America itself.

The Washington Post all in a lather over the truth

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 11, 2016 08:02 AM (GILMl)

31

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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2016 08:03 AM (qCMvj)

32 TFG

cannot p*ss off the "base"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

33 Oh great, Obama pushes more Fed oversight on PD

Tucker Carlson mentioned this one day on The Five, and ole Juan was appalled that he would have suggested that.

Tucker was right.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

34 Good morning, everyone. Let's hope for a quiet week.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 08:05 AM (805dc)

35 Who in their right mind shoots a video of a loved one bleeding out instead of trying to stop the bleeding and calling for help?

If the past has taught us anything about these kind of incidents, it's to wait a very long time before passing judgement. 99.99% of the time, the MFM and the Leftists are lying about what happened.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:00 AM (27m1/)

The point I tried making around here last week, and some people couldn't quite get it, is that WE have to be forming narratives early on. Not let the left form the narrative in a vacuum. They can say "it's about race," and if we don't have a counter-narrative, we lose the argument in the public square.

So... the narrative is about the gun. The one the dead man was carrying.

At this point I don't care if he was legally carrying, or if he made a move that frightened the cop, or was perfectly calm and peaceful, and the cop overreacted.

I don't care. What I DO care about, is that we're talking about the gun, and not the races of the people involved.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2016 08:05 AM (Dj0WE)

36 GM all!

Guest columnist at NJ's Star-Ledger says the Star Spangled Banner is wacist!

http://s.nj.com/oo6Q0Ji

Posted by: Gran at July 11, 2016 08:07 AM (XIXhw)

37 Protesters in Minnesota.

Wow, look at all those white people blocking the road.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis
..........
If we had a functioning media, an enterprising investigative journalist might try to identify these people. It was the same thing here.. mostly white protesters.

I got the feeling that most black people who care about this stuff probably stayed home thinking a protest about black lives one day after a black man shoots 12 officers - killing 5 - might not be such a smart idea.

So.. who is behind these protests? Soros? Who? Someone is pouring millions into this effort.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2016 08:07 AM (UpGcq)

38 The media, including social media, have treated Lavish, a/k/a Diamond Reynolds' videotape account of the shooting as gospel.

Dorian Johnson 2016.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 08:07 AM (SEFXb)

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Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 08:08 AM (SXa8W)

40 DOD Sec Carter announces plans to retake Mosul? That's great telegraph it? What a bunch of fuckin amateurs and assholes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:08 AM (zp+j1)

41 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 11, 2016 08:08 AM (ZQfW9)

42 And people wonder why there are conspiracy theories.
Sorry. The rifle used SHOULD be known as soon as the shrapnel quits pinging. Whitman's rifle didn't change 3 times.
Oswald's rifle didn't change.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (geVJ9

Now, you are just being silly

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:08 AM (voOPb)

43 I'm as white as white can be. Never in trouble with the law. I was pulled over about 10 years ago for speeding. It was 4 in the morning, and I'm on my way to work, and it's an Illinois trooper. I pull over. Take my wallet out of my side pocket and put it on the dash. I put the window down about half way. I put my hands on the steering wheel. I answered yes sir no sir. Showed my license, and insurance card. Got a warning ticket.
I did not get shot.

Must be because I'm white.

Posted by: Bruce at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (8ikIW)

44 Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she doesnt even want to
contemplate a Donald Trump presidency, during a rare interview released
Sunday in which she also talked of heading to New Zealand if the
billionaire wins.

FUCK You you SOB

And WHEN EVER did s Supreme Court Judge become overtly political
like that. The old bag should resign if she wants to campaign..
Disgusting

I believe that is a violation of the Hatch Act.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (X69tJ)

45 So... the narrative is about the gun. The one the dead man did not have a carry permit for, and was ~~carrying~~ holding on top of his left thigh with his hand when the Officer was approaching..

I believe that this version may be more factually accurate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (ptqRm)

46 30 The Washington Post all in a lather over the truth

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 11, 2016 08:02 AM (GILMl)
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You know where the WaPo goes wrong here? The writer keeps referring to Fredo's "secret" hate for cops, America and Christianity. It's no secret! Sheesh, it's obvious to everyone (even WaPo) and El Jefe makes zero effort to hide it.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:10 AM (/m8T6)

47 Giuliani speaks the G-D honest truth about BLM and the MSM goes after him...Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:10 AM (zp+j1)

48 28 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:01 AM (4ng05)

The super of the apartment building I lived in as a kid was a wonderful man from rural North Carolina. He and his wife were sweet, beautiful people who cared about us and about my grandparents who lived down the block in another building. And although they were not necessarily well off, they were righteous, G-d fearing, moral decent people and proud Americans.

His wife passed away only a few weeks after he retired and then he became ill and died not much long afterwards. I wept. And I weep now at what they went through in their younger days and how the Left is pissing on their graves and desecrating their memory.

Beyond the waste of money, the real tragedy is the utter waste of human potential. Can you imagine where we as a nation would be today if instead of 4-5 generations of illiterate, morally bankrupt, violent feral people we had millions of Duke Ellingtons, Barbara Jordans, Clarence Thomas's, Herman Cains, Allen Wests, Ella Fitzgeralds, Alveda Kings etc. etc. etc.

That truly is a crime against humanity. And the guilty party is the Democrat Left.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:10 AM (27m1/)

49 44
I believe that is a violation of the Hatch Act.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (X69tJ)

Loretta Lynch will be right on it. As soon as James Come-stain finds the intent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:11 AM (27m1/)

50 Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she doesnt even want to�contemplate a Donald Trump presidency, during a rare interview released�Sunday in which she also talked of heading to New Zealand if the�billionaire wins.�

One more Supreme Court justice for DT to appoint. Can I help her pack?

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:12 AM (ZnIt3)

51 I believe that is a violation of the Hatch Act.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (X69tJ)

How so? She's entitled to her personal political opinions.

Her professional opinions, no that's another story. Those are violations of common sense, morality, the Constitution. And the Hatch Act.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (/m8T6)

52 Another point (from the dark recesses of my demented mind) that I'd kinda like to make is that -

we either have rights are we don't. The rights we have are either those enumerated in the Constitution or the Constitution is no longer relevant. All of those other rights somewhat less enumerated in the Constitution - like gay marriage and abortion - have either supplanted the only tiny be more specific enumerated rights, or those rights might not be so worthy of our intense focus as we've been lead to believe.

We should get this shit straight first - I think. That would solve some of those other peripheral issues.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (4ng05)

53 "Loretta Lynch will be right on it. As soon as James Come-stain finds the intent. "

Have they inadvertently re-written the defense position for every potential DUI/DWI?

"Sorry Officer, didn't mean to get drunk"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (ptqRm)

54 That truly is a crime against humanity. And the guilty party is the Democrat Left.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:10 AM (27m1/)

God has given every single one of us gifts to use. Look how many gifts never were received because of abortion.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (voOPb)

55 So... the narrative is about the gun. The one the dead man did not have a carry permit for, and was carrying holding on top of his left thigh with his hand when the Officer was approaching..

I believe that this version may be more factually accurate.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:09 AM (ptqRm)

Maybe, I don't know. I wasn't there. But I do know we can have a discussion of those facts AFTER we successfully shout down the left, when all they want to do is make this about race.

In a more civil society, we could have the discussion at the same time, and it would help bolster the argument for the direction of the discussion.

However, we're living in an Obama/Alinsky world. We don't have the luxury of using rational arguments at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (Dj0WE)

56 50 One more Supreme Court justice for DT to appoint. Can I help her pack?
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:12 AM (ZnIt3)

Let's hope we wind up with a Scalia and not a Kennedy.

Even Ronald Reagan got duped by Sandra Day O'Conartist.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (27m1/)

57 If Obama really was a Christian as he claims with deeply held religious beliefs we can be sure libs/progs would not be all in love with him. They know it is just a show for the LIV's.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (1BQGO)

58 According to what I am seeing of Facebook, if you are white and armed when you are pulled over the cop just engages you in friendly conversion and may even remark what a great gun at your side, ask about your gun collection, day at the range etc.. and even give you some tips on better accuracy before sending you on your way without even writing a ticket.

Yep, happens just like that.
____________________

I'd like to know where those white people are getting pulled over. Fantasy land, perhaps? Cops get freaked if you so much as open your door or reach over to your glove compartment during a traffic stop, at least that's been my experience as a white person. And if you're an armed robbery suspect with a gun sitting on your lap during a traffic stop, it's pretty much guaranteed that the first thing the cop will tell you is to keep both your hands up where the cop can see them, and don't move.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 08:14 AM (NnYnv)

59 "Sorry Officer, didn't mean to get drunk"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Wow. That's much better then "I've only had two beers"

Posted by: Bruce at July 11, 2016 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

60 Beyond the waste of money, the real tragedy is the utter waste of human potential. Can you imagine where we as a nation would be today if instead of 4-5 generations of illiterate, morally bankrupt, violent feral people we had millions of Duke Ellingtons, Barbara Jordans, Clarence Thomas's, Herman Cains, Allen Wests, Ella Fitzgeralds, Alveda Kings etc. etc. etc.

That truly is a crime against humanity. And the guilty party is the Democrat Left.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:10 AM (27m1/)

You said what I wanted to say, but you said it much better than I would have said it.

Awesome.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:15 AM (4ng05)

61 God has given every single one of us gifts to use. Look how many gifts never were received because of abortion.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (voOPb)
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Truer words were never spoken.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 08:15 AM (805dc)

62 Another point (from the dark recesses of my demented mind) that I'd kinda like to make is that - we either have rights are we don't.

The rights we have are either those enumerated in the Constitution or the Constitution is no longer relevant.

At which point, a national divorce is easy.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 08:15 AM (geVJ9)

63 So if we elect Trump we can get rid of Ginsburg too? Sweet.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 08:16 AM (SXa8W)

64 54 God has given every single one of us gifts to use. Look how many gifts never were received because of abortion.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (voOPb)

True. And looking past the scientists, entertainers, theologians, etc., just millions of decent, hard-working folks who make up the ordinary day to day fabric of our society. Each in his/her own small way making a difference to just one other life or the nation by just being there and being who they are.

Tragic beyond description.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:16 AM (27m1/)

65 Giuliani speaks the G-D honest truth about BLM and the MSM goes after him...Sigh

Police Chief of El Paso said the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG9KHk8iPVY

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 08:17 AM (SEFXb)

66 Thank You Lord for the people who showed me the way to SunnySkyz and the Good News Network.

Spending a lot more time there and a lot less time on politics.

I approve this Message.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 08:19 AM (WVsWD)

67 Have a good day, all! off to work.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (UpGcq)

68 53 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:13 AM (ptqRm)

Not at all. The courts, and not just SCOTUS, are teetering on the brink of majority leftist. They are there not to judge, but to oppress political dissidents. The book will be thrown at you sure as G-d made little green footballs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (27m1/)

69 Let's hope we wind up with a Scalia and not a Kennedy.�Even Ronald Reagan got duped by Sandra Day O'Conartist.�Posted by:�J.J. Sefton�

I want a supreme court justice so conservative that zombie Ted Kennedy crawls out of the grave and repeats his Bork speech in front of the entire Senate and country.

If anyone has never read that speech, it is historically hysterical (in the Freudian sense).

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (ZnIt3)

70 @62. At which point, a national divorce is easy.-rickb223

That's right, they broke the contract with the American people. But I don't think the divorce will be easy. They still want us to earn them a living.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (SXa8W)

71 I've been preaching here for years that one of the worst things the Left has and is doing is trying to change the English Language.

Illegal into undocumented

micro-aggressions

White privilege

Yada Yada Yada

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (zp+j1)

72
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:21 AM (kdS6q)

73 BLM is all George Soros. He's contributed like 35 million dollars to the organization to cause chaos in society.
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37
Protesters in Minnesota.

If we had a functioning media, an enterprising investigative
journalist might try to identify these people. It was the same thing
here.. mostly white protesters.

I got the feeling that most black people who care about this stuff
probably stayed home thinking a protest about black lives one day after a
black man shoots 12 officers - killing 5 - might not be such a smart
idea.

So.. who is behind these protests? Soros? Who? Someone is pouring millions into this effort.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2016 08:07 AM (UpGcq)

Posted by: Pyrocles at July 11, 2016 08:21 AM (fVOPU)

74 How so? She's entitled to her personal political opinions.

Her professional opinions, no that's another story. Those are violations of common sense, morality, the Constitution. And the Hatch Act.
How so? She's entitled to her personal political opinions.

Her professional opinions, no that's another story. Those are violations of common sense, morality, the Constitution. And the Hatch Act.

You don't get to use your position in the government to campaign. She was being interviewed as a Supreme Court Justice - not as a random person on the street. Personal opinions mean "Water cooler discussions" not interviews with the press. Clear violation of the law.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:21 AM (X69tJ)

75 The book will be thrown at you sure as G-d made little green footballs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (27m1/)

I can assure you G-D had nothing to do with LGFs
Trust me on this one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:22 AM (zp+j1)

76 TFG has divided this country, in hopes that will help elect Progressives. A more cynical, disgusting, anti-American man could hardly be dreamed of, even by the KGB.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:22 AM (/m8T6)

77 "Wow. That's much better then "I've only had two beers"

Gets that whole "Intent" thing right out there in the open, from the get-go.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:22 AM (ptqRm)

78 75 I can assure you G-D had nothing to do with LGFs
Trust me on this one
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:22 AM (zp+j1)

I was attempting glibness. I see I have failed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:23 AM (27m1/)

79 74 Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:21 AM (X69tJ)
======================

You're entitled to your own opinions too, of course. But not your own facts.

Posted by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan at July 11, 2016 08:24 AM (/m8T6)

80 BLM is Soros And Acorn. Remember them? They are now operating under different names.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 08:24 AM (SXa8W)

81 "Not at all. The courts, and not just SCOTUS, are teetering on the brink of majority leftist. They are there not to judge, but to oppress political dissidents"

True.
But what happens if every DUI defendant arrives in Court, after legally changing their name to Clinton?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:25 AM (ptqRm)

82 69
If anyone has never read that speech, it is historically hysterical (in the Freudian sense).
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (ZnIt3)

And yet we were denied one of the greatest jurists never to serve on the bench. Much of the blame rests with the GOP for not going to the mattresses for him. I forget if we had enough votes in the Senate at the time but I don't even think it got out of committee IIRC.

Teddy, I hope, is roasting. As Leahy should as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:25 AM (27m1/)

83
Opinion: A paucity in presidential picks

This is a difficult choice for a lot of people. Give us some options. Please.

https://tinyurl.com/h34n5gf

Judd Gregg (R) is a former governor and three-term senator from New Hampshire who served as chairman and ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, and as ranking member of the Senate Appropriations Foreign Operations subcommittee. He stinks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:25 AM (kdS6q)

84
Oh. And Biden too. He may an ignoramus, but he's a vicious, vindictive criminal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:26 AM (27m1/)

85 Wouldn't that be, what they call, a "trigger" to some people?

And a microconstruction to others.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 11, 2016 08:26 AM (OF/aZ)

86 Drudge has gone all BLM. How long before Hillary closes out her speeches with a raised, black-gloved fist and head bowed?

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:26 AM (/m8T6)

87 Can we start a GoFundMe site to help SC Justice Ruth Ginsberg with moving expenses? New Zealand is gonna be an expensive move.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:27 AM (ZnIt3)

88 83 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:25 AM (kdS6q)

In a sane world, Trump is a non-starter. With Hilary Clinton as the opposition, voting Trump is a no-brainer.

(not trying to make a double-entendre)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:27 AM (27m1/)

89 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (zp+j1)

I go all the way back to 1976, when the conventions and election coverage were first universally broadcast in color, and Uncle Walter and CBS used the color blue for Democrats and red for Republcans, rather than the reverse. To me, this was the original MFM corruption.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2016 08:27 AM (EZebt)

90 It's not my intent to start an argument about this now, but relatively speaking, arguments like abortion and gay marriage are arguments that have lost their relevance in the politics of period we are now in (obviously my opinion). They have been relegated to convenient, perennial argument of the establishment used to keep our focus off of real problems and issues.

Neither (again opinion - obviously) abortion or gay marriage deserve a place in politics or to be addressed by law, at this point. If people who are against abortion, for example, want to keep women from having abortion, they should win the argument from a societal standpoint. If people who actually desire that there be more abortions than less, they too, should win the argument, and they have. But it should not (no matter the damage to the country's soul) be enshrined in law. If a woman wants an abortion AND she can find a doctor to perform it, that should be between her and the Dr. I shouldn't have to pay for it because it was discovered to be a civil right.

I could go on, but I've made the point as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:28 AM (4ng05)

91 87 Can we start a GoFundMe site to help SC Justice Ruth Ginsberg with moving expenses? New Zealand is gonna be an expensive move.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:27 AM (ZnIt3)

Nah. Send her to Soweto. She just LOVES the SA constitution.

Shriveled old cvnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:28 AM (27m1/)

92 87 Can we start a GoFundMe site to help SC Justice Ruth Ginsberg with moving expenses? New Zealand is gonna be an expensive move.
=============================

Yup- just give a little money to the Trump campaign, and that'll help move her right along.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:29 AM (/m8T6)

93
S, S and S.

BBS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:29 AM (27m1/)

94 Note to self.

Don't rob banks.

2nd note to self.

If stupid enough to rob bank, have get away plan.

3rd note to self.

Cross "crash into cop car" off get away plan options list.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 11, 2016 08:29 AM (WVsWD)

95 Hillary's response to Dallas is that it's all white peoples fault.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at July 11, 2016 08:29 AM (SXa8W)

96 I was attempting glibness. I see I have failed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:23 AM (27m1/)

Well you know me..sometimes you have to hit over the head with the clue bat...the wooden ones. I hate those new metal ones

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 08:29 AM (zp+j1)

97
In fiscally conservative news:

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers and others have been working on legislation to create an emergency fund for public health crises. They call it FEMA for public health.

The creation of the reserve fund was unveiled this week in a GOP health spending bill. It would contain $300 million to tackle crises like Zika and Ebola, and would give the administration's top disease control official immediate access to the money.

https://tinyurl.com/ht6bl9m

More blank checks for the President to sign. Thanks guys.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:30 AM (kdS6q)

98 Well you know me..sometimes you have to hit over the head with the clue bat...the wooden ones. I hate those new metal ones

Not me, I like that pingy sound when I make solid contact

Posted by: Bruce at July 11, 2016 08:30 AM (8ikIW)

99 >>> The book will be thrown at you sure as G-d made little green footballs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2016 08:20 AM (27m1/)

I thought some nut case named Chuckie mad little green footballs?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:33 AM (voOPb)

100 *hic*

Posted by: !Hillary at July 11, 2016 08:34 AM (rR0jE)

101 iirc, Ted Kennedy invoked coat hangers and back alley abortions in his speech opposing the appointment of constitutional scholar Robert Bork to the SC. It had to set some sort of record for vitriol and a low point in American politics.

Low point for that time, anyway.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:35 AM (ZnIt3)

102 "I thought some nut case named Chuckie mad little green footballs?"

I believe that each of us is able to, if we dig deeply enough, find the source of little green footballs within ourselves..

*Flick*

* Flick...flick*

Shit

*Wipe*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 08:36 AM (ptqRm)

103 Even if Bader Ginsburg retires the Supreme Court will carry on, as ruthless as ever.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 08:37 AM (mvenn)

104 How is it that every POTUS becomes a PO**S

Posted by: Dr. Evil at July 11, 2016 08:39 AM (e8kgV)

105 103 Even if Bader Ginsburg retires the Supreme Court will carry on, as ruthless as ever.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 08:37 AM (mvenn)

Standing ovation! Well played Mr. Muldoon

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:39 AM (voOPb)

106 103 Even if Bader Ginsburg retires the Supreme Court will carry on, as ruthless as ever.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 08:37 AM (mvenn)
---------------

Ah. What would we do without you?

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 08:40 AM (805dc)

107 Even if Bader Ginsburg retires the Supreme Court will carry on, as ruthless as ever.Posted by: Seamus Muldoon�

Let's not let justice be denied.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:41 AM (ZnIt3)

108
A report on California homicides released this month by Attorney General Kamala Harris contained some insight into who killed whom.

Overall, 1,861 people were slain last year. In cases where a victims race was known, 43 percent were Latino, while 28 percent were black and 21 percent were white.

The Department of Justice reported that police killed 130 people statewide in 2015 in cases that were ruled justifiable. 42 percent were Latino, 32 percent were white and 18 percent were black.

https://tinyurl.com/gl98d5b

#BlackLivesMatter! Wait....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:43 AM (kdS6q)

109 iirc, Ted Kennedy invoked coat hangers and back alley abortions in his speech opposing the appointment of constitutional scholar Robert Bork to the SC. It had to set some sort of record for vitriol and a low point in American politics.

Low point for that time, anyway.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 08:35 AM (ZnIt3)

That was low, no doubt, but no matter how cynical, it captured an element of the guts of the argument. If a woman believes her arguments for an abortion outweigh the arguments of those who have been trying to convince her that abortion is wrong, she's gonna (at least try) to have an abortion. Either the side that was against her having an abortion needs to up their game, or (heaven forbid) it's a personal decision, and government should keep their hands out of my back pocket to pay for it. Solicit the pro-abortionists for that part.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:44 AM (4ng05)

110 Only a matter of time until BLM acts in concert with one of America's other enemies to commit a larger terrorist act with mass civilian casualties. 9/11 style. With absolute approval from "our betters".

Posted by: Unbuttoned Gwinnett at July 11, 2016 08:45 AM (iU9Qe)

111 OT: was just looking at ESPN.com's sidebar. The women's Wimbledon champion is more muscular and broad-shouldered than the men's?!

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2016 08:46 AM (ANVXm)

112
#BlackLivesMatter! Wait....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:43 AM (kdS6q)

#NoWhiteLivesMatter

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 08:47 AM (voOPb)

113 Macca, I know what you are saying, and I agree that hearts and minds need to be converted - that's the best possible scenario.

But I won't stop hoping for better laws against abortion, because there are many frightened people out there who think that if it's legal, it's okay. They have no idea of the pain and heartache they will carry for the rest of their life. If we can save the lives of more babies and keep their parents from committing this horrible sin, with all the horrible after effects, it's worth it to keep fighting.

It feels hopeless sometimes, I'll certainly grant you that. But we mustn't despair. And we mustn't give up.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 08:49 AM (805dc)

114 Democrats are blaming Brexit for their economic failures, even though Brexit hasn't actually happened and won't happen for a couple of years. The latest is a ridiculous Yahoo story blaming bank industry struggles on the vote, instead of blaming years of progressive economic policy.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 08:49 AM (/m8T6)

115 The women's Wimbledon champion is more muscular and broad-shouldered than the men's?!

Is this too not the story of the Obamas ?

Posted by: McCool at July 11, 2016 08:50 AM (TQxRy)

116 The Dallas ambush rifle? Morphing assault riffle.
The mayor said he used an AR. Cops said he used an SKS.
Now reports are of an AK-74.

And people wonder why there are conspiracy theories.
Sorry. The rifle used SHOULD be known as soon as the shrapnel quits pinging. Whitman's rifle didn't change 3 times.
Oswald's rifle didn't change.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 07:54 AM (geVJ9)

Conservativeoutfitters has a pic of the weapon at the scene. It's an AK-47.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 11, 2016 08:51 AM (vqOWV)

117 Is this too not the story of the Obamas ?

Point: McCool.

Posted by: The Chair at Wimbledon at July 11, 2016 08:52 AM (ANVXm)

118 When the Dems illegally picket the floor of the US House...I cry to CNN and then give them a gun control, which they use to humiliate me further and I again cry to CNN.

But when someone legally protests near my home...I GET PISSED.

Posted by: Paul Ryan's Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome at July 11, 2016 08:55 AM (10hEu)

119 74 Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:21 AM (X69tJ)

======================

You're entitled to your own opinions too, of course. But not your own facts.

Clearly I am being Trolled here. I was a "Trusted employee of the Federal Government"; that is how the Hatch act was explained to us. If I was interviewed as an engineer working for NASA - I couldn't use that interview to spout my personal political opinions.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2016 08:55 AM (X69tJ)

120
Morphing assault riffle. The mayor said he used an AR. Cops said he used an SKS. Now reports are of an AK-74.
Posted by: rickb223

But somehow, the powers that be still know exactly what the shooter's motivations were, not to mention have a complete list of his social contacts and daily activity.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 08:55 AM (kdS6q)

121 >>>90 It's not my intent to start an argument about this now, but relatively speaking, arguments like abortion and gay marriage are arguments that have lost their relevance in the politics of period we are now in (obviously my opinion). They have been relegated to convenient, perennial argument of the establishment used to keep our focus off of real problems and issues.

Bingo! Abortion/gay marriage/equal pay/other issues are tarbabies used by left/media to suck in Republisuckers and play gotcha games or paint them as out of touch religious nuts or haterz or bigots. Best answer is it's not (or should not be) a government issue and if it is, the better answer is to extricate government from the issue than modify how it's been inserted.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2016 08:56 AM (hxi2p)

122 But somehow, the powers that be still know exactly what the shooter's motivations were, not to mention have a complete list of his social contacts and daily activity.....

No reason for us to go all conspiracy theory on them over this.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 08:57 AM (geVJ9)

123 Its an AR-47 with the bayonet clips and an automatic stock that flips up!!!!!

omgomghideyokidshideyowife

Posted by: MSNBC at July 11, 2016 08:57 AM (10hEu)

124 Woke up this morning to the wonderful news that Savannah had its own BLM march consisting of "thousands."

Meanwhile, hardly a night or day goes by that there isn't a black-on-black shooting/stabbing/killing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 11, 2016 08:57 AM (1ZOkK)

125 It feels hopeless sometimes, I'll certainly grant you that. But we mustn't despair. And we mustn't give up.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 08:49 AM (805dc)

Where the right screwed up in the first place (I believe) was trying to bring these morality based arguments into the legal arena - attempting to give the imprimatur of legality to a morality based argument. It backfired on abortion first, and then on gay marriage. Neither of these should have ever entered the legal arena. It played perfectly into the left's hands and wound up giving that imprimatur with the exact opposite effect of that intended.

And that is just more weak minded opinion.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:57 AM (4ng05)

126 So, liberals are freaking out over the 'splodey robot that took out the cop killer, but the JEF has been using drones to kill whoever he wants for 7 1/2 years now. Not a peep.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 11, 2016 08:59 AM (1ZOkK)

127 They have been relegated to convenient, perennial argument of the establishment used to keep our focus off of real problems and issues.

Yes, these are 'organizing issues.' They are used to get the voters in line behind their respective teams-- the truth is that the issues will not be resolved or mitigated, either because it isn't possible or the elites don't want to, but they want them alive as a driving issue to organize their support.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 08:59 AM (SEFXb)

128 Woke up this morning to the wonderful news that Savannah had its own BLM march consisting of "thousands."

Meanwhile, hardly a night or day goes by that there isn't a black-on-black shooting/stabbing/killing.

Smart individual would organize a march, then use the march as cover to take out rivals. Instant alibi & cops are busy.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 08:59 AM (geVJ9)

129
The United States on Monday pledged $410 million toward ending the AIDS epidemic in South Africa, the country hardest hit. The funds were donated through the U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), which also supports projects in South Africa to encourage male circumcision and attempts to reduce new HIV infections in girls and young women.

Did this country hit the lotto or something? Where is all this free money coming from?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 09:01 AM (kdS6q)

130 >>>Morphing assault riffle. The mayor said he used an AR. Cops said he used an SKS. Now reports are of an AK-74.
Posted by: rickb223

________________

Love the SKS. I have a Chinese paratrooper with the triangle bayonet.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at July 11, 2016 09:01 AM (10hEu)

131 I heard that Lavish/Diamond had video on her Facebook page of her smoking weed in the car with the boyfriend. In front on her 4 y.o. kid in the back seat.

Upstanding couple.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (1ZOkK)

132 Where the right screwed up in the first place (I believe) was trying to
bring these morality based arguments into the legal arena - attempting
to give the imprimatur of legality to a morality based argument. It
backfired on abortion first, and then on gay marriage. Neither of these
should have ever entered the legal arena.
=============================================

Just like slavery. Moral issue. Should never have been brought into politics or the legal arena.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (dFi94)

133 It was interesting watching DeRay McKesson, Baltimore City School employee and recent arrestee at a BLM protest spouting for the camera that in EVERY city, the only individuals perpetrating violence were the Police.
He was emphatic that all protests were peaceful.
And only the Police were causing shit.

He is a delusional lying psychopath.
And B'More deserves him.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (ptqRm)

134 Hate bullfighting. They make it as painful as possible for the animal before killing it. They stick those long poles in the stab wounds, move them around to cause pain and make the animal charge.

Wasnt there a couple of American students who got gored and died a few years ago?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (iQIUe)

135 Not a peep.

That's different because we know he's on our side!

Posted by: Teh Left at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (ANVXm)

136 So, liberals are freaking out over the 'splodey robot that took out the cop killer, but the JEF has been using drones to kill whoever he wants for 7 1/2 years now. Not a peep.Posted by: Jane D'oh�

True that. But even a broken watch gives the correct time twice daily.

I'm not so sure giving bombs to police officers to intentionally kill, without oversight of some fashion, is where we should be heading. Just as I don't think that Obama should be killing without oversight.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:04 AM (ZnIt3)

137 The creation of the reserve fund was unveiled this week in a GOP health spending bill. It would contain $300 million to tackle crises like Zika and Ebola, and would give the administration's top disease control official immediate access to the money.

--

Wasn't it last week that Cankles came out with her statement about creating a public health insurance option? I can see it now...how this "reserve fund" for "emergencies" will morph into a ginormous piggy bank for this lefty wet dream of a public health insurance option. Ya know, the one TFG wanted all along.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 11, 2016 09:05 AM (+FSld)

138 They have been relegated to convenient, perennial argument of the
establishment used to keep our focus off of real problems and issues.
=================================================

Because executing a person without cause or due process is not a real problem.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:05 AM (dFi94)

139 Heard some guy on the radio going on and on about the killing of the shooter in Dallas. Every leftard and the MSM is going to pick up on this bullshite. Leftard politicians will use it for cheap publicity. And of course the idiots at UNREASON will jump on the bandwagon, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 09:05 AM (iQIUe)

140 I guess all the thousands of people out shutting down highways and protesting have jobs to go to this morning.

Hope they aren't too tired.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 11, 2016 09:06 AM (1ZOkK)

141 I'm not so sure giving bombs to police officers to intentionally kill, without oversight of some fashion, is where we should be heading. Just as I don't think that Obama should be killing without oversight.
Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:04 AM (ZnIt3)

Actually I think you make some interesting points...but what if they took him out with a sniper? Would that be any different?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 09:06 AM (zp+j1)

142 If the scanner audio indicates the officer pulled him over for a match to the armed robber suspect--

and the girlfriend's video has him saying 'I TOLD HIM NOT TO REACH FOR IT!'--

both are very good, in-the-moment indications that his actions, at least in his mind, were justified.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 09:07 AM (SEFXb)

143 Read that the shooter was taking a muzzie class. Sure the MSM wont be reporting on that.

He also scrawled the letters RB in blood and they dont know what it means. Probably the initials of another woman who rejected him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 09:08 AM (iQIUe)

144 Today is Ed Markey's 70th birthday. I wish he would celebrate it by also agreeing to flee to New Zealand, should the election turn out well.

I hope New Zealand doesn't mind if all these corruptocrats want to move there....

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 09:08 AM (/m8T6)

145
Just like slavery. Moral issue. Should never have been brought into politics or the legal arena.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (dFi94)

First - they won the argument. It became a protracted and bloody fight only after those who lost the argument wanted a different result.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:08 AM (4ng05)

146 What if, after two hours of failed negotiations, they tossed a grenade on him?

Not one more cop's life should have been put at risk.

And yay, Obama and Joey are going to Dallas tomorrow to speak at the memorial.

Hope Joe leaves off, "They gonna put ya'll back in chains!"

The greatest thing about the Age of Obama has been all the racial harmony.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 11, 2016 09:08 AM (1ZOkK)

147
I guess all the thousands of people out shutting down highways and protesting have jobs to go to this morning. Hope they aren't too tired.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Independent medical marijuana supply-line consultants.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 11, 2016 09:08 AM (kdS6q)

148 "Heard some guy on the radio going on and on about the killing of the shooter in Dallas. Every leftard and the MSM is going to pick up on this bullshite."

When robots are used to perform abortions, then discussion gets interesting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:09 AM (ptqRm)

149 Because executing a person without cause or due process is not a real problem.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:05 AM (dFi94

All depends on what your objectives are. Always has been always will be. That doesn't make it right, just makes it the way it is.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 09:10 AM (voOPb)

150 Because executing a person without cause or due process is not a real problem.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:05 AM (dFi94)

You can take that as far afield as you want. I just don't think hyperbole will help you make the point your trying to make.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:10 AM (4ng05)

151 attempting to give the imprimatur of legality to a morality based argument.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 08:57 AM (4ng05)
------------------

Laws are based on morality. It is illegal to rob a bank because it is immoral to take someone else's money. It is illegal to murder someone because it is immoral to take another person's life. It is illegal for me to vandalize your car because it is immoral for me to destroy another's property.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:11 AM (805dc)

152 He also scrawled the letters RB in blood and they dont know what it means. Probably the initials of another woman who rejected him.

Conventional wisdom was that he was in the process of scrawling "RBG", standing for Red Black Green.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:11 AM (ptqRm)

153 Actually I think you make some interesting points...but what if they took him out with a sniper? Would that be any different?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 09:06 AM (zp+j1)

My guess is that a .308 round costs less than a charge of C-4 and repairs/replacement of the robot.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 11, 2016 09:11 AM (voOPb)

154 I'm not so sure giving bombs to police officers to intentionally kill, without oversight of some fashion, is where we should be heading. Just as I don't think that Obama should be killing without oversight.

They had plenty of oversight. That wasn't a decision taken lightly.

I still saw they should have asked for police volunteers, given ten of them full auto, and said "get him". Because, after an ambush like that, you know some wanted blood.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:12 AM (geVJ9)

155 We need an amicable divorce.

Posted by: artist at July 11, 2016 09:12 AM (TwnkX)

156 Good Morning Morons.

Today is a day that I am glad I only focus on polling, because everything else is crap.

Before I toss out a recap of recent polling that has gone into the RCP, I want to note that the headlines continue to be how Trump is blowing it. Whether it is his VP choice, or lack of campaigning, or message, or whatever else, the message from both the right AND the left is that Trump is blowing it.

And that analysis continues to not be born out by the polling results. We continue to look at a very stable race, where Clinton has locked up the leftists (in a 2 person race), Trump has a strong core of support, and there are a lot of undecideds.

Let's look at the polling series:

Gravis finished a poll on 6/28 that showed Clinton leading 50-48. This is a slight drop in support for both candidates, since the previous poll in mid June was 51-49. Gravis is unique in their model where they end up with very few undecideds.

The big "ZOMG TRUMP IS TOAST" poll was Ispos/Reuters. This poll is heavily weighted with Democrat respondents (it always is). It completed on 7/6 with Clinton leading 44-33. The interesting thing for me is how poorly Clinton does in a poll that is so heavily over sampled with Democrats. This poll isn't much different from their 6/22 poll of 44-34.

Economist/YouGov released a new version of their poll that shows both candidates increasing support. Their 7/4 poll shows Clinton leading 47-42, where their 6/20 poll was 43-39. I think this is an online poll, but am not sure, YMMV.

USA Today/Suffolk finally got around to releasing a new poll that completed on 6/29. This one showed a more normal Clinton lead of 46-40. The last poll in this series was 2 MONTHS AGO on 4/28 which had Clinton leading 50-39. That is a significant drop for Clinton in this series, though Trump isn't really picking up support yet. That isn't unusual though, voters tend to move from committed to uncommitted first, before switching votes (or deciding in the end to support their original candidate).

Finally Rasmussen continues to find a small lead for Trump. Their 7/5 poll has Trump leading 42-40. This is a slight drop from 6/29 where he lead 43-39, but it does show that the Clinton lead this series was finding in June is definitely gone.

As I said, the race is stable. Clinton holds an average lead of about 4%. Her investment in anti-Trump advertising is not showing a payoff in poll results, unless you want to argue it is keeping her from sinking further.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 11, 2016 09:12 AM (vS3k1)

157 "My guess is that a .308 round costs less than a charge of C-4 and repairs/replacement of the robot."

My understanding is that the model used was slightly north of $100,000.00 per unit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:13 AM (ptqRm)

158 >>>133 It was interesting watching DeRay McKesson, Baltimore City School employee and recent arrestee at a BLM protest spouting for the camera that in EVERY city, the only individuals perpetrating violence were the Police.
He was emphatic that all protests were peaceful.
And only the Police were causing shit.

He is a delusional lying psychopath.
And B'More deserves him.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:03 AM (ptqRm)

_____________

Baltimore City Schools is where Black Lives (go to later on not) Matter.

Keeping any of those horrible places open should be considered child abuse. I don't know one person who willingly lets their child go to them. I had a hippy dippy couple move onto my block last year (I'm in Upper Fells) and they let their boy go to the local HS (I don't know if its still Dunbar or Herritage now), but he lasted less than a month before they pulled him out.

Suddenly they found a way to rationalize in their brains that it was more "Progressive" for them to home school him until they could find a private school.

Good people, but Sanders supporters and they believe all that nonsense.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at July 11, 2016 09:13 AM (10hEu)

159 You can take that as far afield as you want. I just don't think hyperbole will help you make the point your trying to make.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:10 AM (4ng05)
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It's not hyberbole in the least. I am dead serious. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Entitled to a jury of your peers, with legal representation. People do not own other people. We settled that already. You don't get to do whatever you want to other people, especially killing them. I do not see how this is an extreme position.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:14 AM (dFi94)

160 Unfortunately it's Bull 0 Bullfighter 0.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 11, 2016 09:14 AM (a/9Wy)

161 Actually I think you make some interesting points...but what if they took him out with a sniper? Would that be any different?Posted by: Nevergiveup�

Yeah. I think a little. The sniper has exceptional vision and accuracy. A clear view of a large area, hopefully.

Peering at a tiny video monitor, with limited image area, doesn't show the innocent person coming around the corner.

I don't say this as an anti-technology Luddite, but one who spent a large part of his career in technology, never surprised when the unexpected happened.

See also; Mayor Wilson Goode, Move, Philadelphia

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:14 AM (ZnIt3)

162 Peering at a tiny video monitor, with limited image area, doesn't show the innocent person coming around the corner.

Well in this case I am pretty sure there were no innocents coming around the corner

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 09:16 AM (zp+j1)

163 Laws are based on morality. It is illegal to rob a bank because it is immoral to take someone else's money. It is illegal to murder someone because it is immoral to take another person's life. It is illegal for me to vandalize your car because it is immoral for me to destroy another's property.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:11 AM (805dc)

And... everything is relative. There are enough people who, even being against abortion, can understand how a woman might feel an abortion is her best option. Same for gay marriage. You are going to have a harder time making that argument for murder.

And the point remains while abortion and gay marriage are massive issues for a small and dwindling few, the larger segment of society (I would submit) see this as a distraction from larger, more immediate problems.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:16 AM (4ng05)

164 " I had a hippy dippy couple move onto my block last year (I'm in Upper Fells) and they let their boy go to the local HS (I don't know if its still Dunbar or Herritage now), "

Ah, the old days.

That all used to be part of my territory as a bag carrying military Recruiter back in the early 90's.

Oh, and Cherry Hill as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:16 AM (ptqRm)

165 My take (or hope) on Trump laying low is that right now he is letting everything sink in. People start to accept he is the candidate, let the news get old, so that at the convention people aren't still adjusting to the idea of him as a nominee.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2016 09:18 AM (hxi2p)

166 It's not hyberbole in the least. I am dead serious. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Entitled to a jury of your peers, with legal representation. People do not own other people. We settled that already. You don't get to do whatever you want to other people, especially killing them. I do not see how this is an extreme position.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:14 AM (dFi94)

Win the argument in the public arena, not in the courts. I am anti-abortion. I think it's murder. I also accept that many other people don't see it that way and I would like to see their minds changed. We keep trying to have the courts win these arguments for us, we will continue to be disappointed with the result, especially the way we are going now.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:19 AM (4ng05)

167 Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 11, 2016 09:12 AM (vS3k1)

Thank you for that. It seems to reflect my 'seat of the pants' impression right now.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:20 AM (ZnIt3)

168 while abortion and gay marriage are massive issues
for a small and dwindling few, the larger segment of society (I would
submit) see this as a distraction from larger, more immediate problems.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:16 AM (4ng05)
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Most conservatives can walk and chew gum at the same time. And it's never been my habit to "pick" my issues according to how many others stand next to me. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)

169 The slow-motion nationalization of police finally makes it clear what BLM's purpose actually was and why Soros threw so much money at it.

Now we'll see if their secondary mission of creating enough trouble at the RNC to give TFG cover for martial law actually plays out.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2016 09:20 AM (zjvRa)

170 Current polling on abortion via Pew:

"When asked directly about the legality of abortion, 56% of U.S. adults say it should be legal in all or most cases, compared with 41% who say it should be illegal all or most of the time. In both cases, these figures have remained relatively stable for at least two decades."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/27/5-facts-about-abortion/

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at July 11, 2016 09:20 AM (t5zYU)

171 Peering at a tiny video monitor, with limited image area, doesn't show the innocent person coming around the corner.

Who is this innocent mythical person?
The whole reason to use the robot was because of his location and the lack of ingress/egress.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:21 AM (geVJ9)

172 Win the argument in the public arena, not in the courts.
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I don't see how one excludes the other.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:21 AM (dFi94)

173 "Beyond the waste of money, the real tragedy is the utter waste of human potential. Can you imagine where we as a nation would be today if instead of 4-5 generations of illiterate, morally bankrupt, violent feral people we had millions of Duke Ellingtons, Barbara Jordans, Clarence Thomas's, Herman Cains, Allen Wests, Ella Fitzgeralds, Alveda Kings etc. etc. etc.

That truly is a crime against humanity. And the guilty party is the Democrat Left.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton"

Awesome, JJS.
And too, too true.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2016 09:22 AM (3X3ZR)

174 That Pew report I just linked is from last month.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at July 11, 2016 09:22 AM (t5zYU)

175 Hillary's Comeuppance- a limerick

There was an old woman named Hillary
Who once drained the local distillery
She did what she meant
With evil intent
So they put the old sot in the pillory

(Hic)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 09:23 AM (mvenn)

176
This is probably a good topic for a sober policy speech.
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- MONDAY, JULY 11, 2016 -

VIRGINIA BEACH, VA
The Westin Virginia Beach Town Center
1:00 PM

Donald J. Trump will be giving a speech on Veterans' Reform.

*This event is not open to the general public*

Posted by: iforgot at July 11, 2016 09:23 AM (pC96u)

177 but what if they took him out with a sniper? Would that be any different?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2016 09:06 AM (zp+j1)

They are morally identical. The only difference is the cost to the taxpayer.

The decision tree leading to a sniper squeezing the trigger or a robot operator pushing a button is, or should be, the same.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:24 AM (Zu3d9)

178 Right is right. Wrong is wrong.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)

Ironically, I agree with you. I remember a time when that seemed to be so. I would like those black and white times to return. I'll say it again though: Imposing these kinds of decisions through the courts will just cause the people who you have failed to convince of the validity of your arguments will only cause them to resist you.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:24 AM (4ng05)

179 "The decision tree leading to a sniper squeezing the trigger or a robot operator pushing a button is, or should be, the same."

Wonder if they have audio/visual from the robot where upon approaching the suspect, he is asked to identify himself, and if he is the shooter.

Dude says "Yes", and Blammo!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 11, 2016 09:26 AM (ptqRm)

180 There are enough people who, even being against abortion, can understand how a woman might feel an abortion is her best option.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:16 AM (4ng05)
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I agree with your statement, sad as that situation is. However, my point is that by making it legal, that is enough to push some people towards having that abortion rather than keeping the baby or giving the baby up for adoption. And that's a choice that if they are honest, they then regret for the rest of their lives.

A baby dies in every abortion, but the parents also are greatly harmed, a fact which they often don't realize until later. I don't want any of these people in that situation.

I'm not saying forget all the other important issues - not at all. I'm just saying we can't - we shouldn't - forget this one.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:26 AM (805dc)

181 Candygram for Mongo X!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (SEFXb)

182
the race is stable. Clinton holds an average lead of about 4%. Her investment in anti-Trump advertising is not showing a payoff in poll results, unless you want to argue it is keeping her from sinking further.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 11, 2016 09:12 AM (vS3k1)
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Interesting, Dave in Fla. Thanks.

Is anyone else interested in this Mike Flynn? I am.

Posted by: iforgot at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (pC96u)

183 Moral issues are political issues and the base on which all governments stand. I also agree that we should not impose morality on people but It's not the loss of imposing morality in this country that has started our downfall but the embrace of immortality that has taken us down.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (a/9Wy)

184 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 09:23 AM (mvenn)

There once was a man named Muldoon,
Whose limericks made him sound like a loon,
They were undoubtedly funny,
and right on the money,
So the Morons thought he was a boon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (Zu3d9)

185 The KGB mugs one of our diplos and we in return expel a couple of commie diplos. Now they have expelled some of ours.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 09:28 AM (iQIUe)

186 Candygram for Mongo X!

You should see the Facebook memes for the robot. Everything from Mongo to employee of the month.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:28 AM (geVJ9)

187 I expect Paul Ryan will have a flood of out-of-state money riding in to shore up his flagging poll numbers very soon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 09:29 AM (SEFXb)

188 In 1958, a young pregnant Italian woman became very ill with what turned out to be appendicitis. The treatments she received caused her doctors to advise an abortion, as they feared the child would be born with disabilities. The woman decided to carry the baby to term anyway. The doctors were right. The child was born blind. His name is Andrea Bocelli.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:29 AM (dFi94)

189 Oregon...another beautiful place ruined by libs! One of the coworkers, who's married to a guy from Portland, tried to prove that OR hipsters brought so much innovation to our culture, failing to produce a single example. She stopped talking to me when I pointed out that finding the best crappy Christmas sweater and growing hemp in the backyard aren't staples of our culture. Their healthcare was seriously crappy though long before Obamacare. Many people rely on alternative woodoo medicine and providers are limited in general. After they passed assisted suicide laws older people with serious but treatable conditions were given this option as the only existing for their treatment.
Oh, an I made the Book thread headlines with my very first post? Am I an official 'ette now?

Posted by: Mitten bound at July 11, 2016 09:30 AM (0yfal)

190 Imposing these kinds of decisions through the courts will just cause the people who you have failed to convince of the validity of your arguments will only cause them to resist you.

this does not deter the Left...
Almost every state where SSM was on a ballot voted it down.
The Left took it to SCOTUS, won and are beating all into submission

Posted by: McCool at July 11, 2016 09:30 AM (TQxRy)

191 "A baby dies in every abortion, but the parents also
are greatly harmed, a fact which they often don't realize until later. I
don't want any of these people in that situation."

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:26 AM (805dc)

I understand your point, but I must disagree.

This is where the pro-life movement veers away from solid ground.

It should not matter a whit whether the parents feel badly about their actions. It is not the function of government to protect the feelings of its citizens.

The only issue is whether a fetus is a human being. If it is, then it should not be killed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)

192 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (Zu3d9)

********

**blushes modestly**

**curtsies**

I'm assuming a 'boon' is a good thing.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 09:33 AM (mvenn)

193 #173 What you see as an utter waste of human potential the left sees as a virtue.

That is the nut of the matter.

This is why there must be a dissolvement of the political ties that bind us. I, for one, no longer wish to be associated with the left and their irrational ideology.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:33 AM (9FQSz)

194 183 Moral issues are political issues and the base on which all governments stand. I also agree that we should not impose morality on people but It's not the loss of imposing morality in this country that has started our downfall but the embrace of immortality that has taken us down.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 11, 2016 09:27 AM (a/9Wy)
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And my point is simply that the laws which aid this embrace of immorality are helping to bring us down faster.

Look, I think most of here agree that abortion is wrong. I'm seeing that some of us think there should be laws against it and some of us think it's not worth fighting for those laws because it takes away from other issues. Okay. You fight for what you think is most important, and I'll fight for what I think is most important. Hopefully we all can benefit.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:35 AM (805dc)

195
"A baby dies in every abortion, but the parents also
are greatly harmed, a fact which they often don't realize until later. I
don't want any of these people in that situation."

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:26 AM (805dc)

I understand your point, but I must disagree.

This is where the pro-life movement veers away from solid ground.

It should not matter a whit whether the parents feel badly about their actions. It is not the function of government to protect the feelings of its citizens.
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I agree. Using the law to save people from bad feelings is the left's stock in trade.

Posted by: iforgot at July 11, 2016 09:36 AM (pC96u)

196 They were going to send ME in with the C4 but I put my claw down and refused. Enough is enough.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 11, 2016 09:37 AM (9FQSz)

197 Using the law to save people from bad feelings is the left's stock in trade.

****

The politics of guilt and pity.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 09:37 AM (mvenn)

198 Just as an example of what can go wrong with explosives, in Philadelphia there was an organization MOVE that terrorized a neighborhood. The police sought to evict them. Shots were fired. There was a 'bunker' on the roof of the building that the police thought could be used to fire upon them. They dropped a bomb on it. There was a gas can nearby. There was a fire. An entire block of row homes burned to the ground.

Ultimately it cost the city, in my estimation, about One Hundred Million Dollars. I watched this event unfurl realtime on local television. So I have a different opinion about bombs and police and the best made plans.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:38 AM (ZnIt3)

199
He also scrawled the letters RB in blood and they dont know what it means. Probably the initials of another woman who rejected him.

He wanted a sandwich from Arby's.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 11, 2016 09:39 AM (IqV8l)

200 BLM activist shot dead on Saturday after trying to break into St. Louis police officer's home after threatening him and his family.

http://bit.ly/29HEYof

YMMV. Never heard of this "web site".

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:39 AM (geVJ9)

201 There is a link in my nic to a cool sign of a protest against Ryan. Yay Nehlan!

Posted by: Chillin the most at July 11, 2016 09:39 AM (BI43k)

202 Win the argument in the public arena, not in the courts.

What does that mean in a practical sense? State after state attempts to restrict unlimited abortion via the democratic process and the courts strike it down.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (evdj2)

203 It should not matter a whit whether the parents feel badly about their actions. It is not the function of government to protect the feelings of its citizens.
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CBD, I think you are misunderstanding my point. As a Christian, I am concerned with the souls of the parents as well as the child. That's where I am coming from. I did not say there should be laws against abortion to protect the parents. There should be laws against abortion because it is the unlawful killing of a child. Period. That should be the law. As a Christian I feel the added benefit of that law would be that it would be helpful to the parents. I am not saying that language should be included in the law, it is just my additional thought.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (805dc)

204 Ya know

It's an old trope that the USA is a Rome analog but it occurred to me that nobody has written a sci Fi fantasy book which has that as the setting.

I mean with offering incense to the President, magic the works. I wonder how that would go...

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (wmxwV)

205 President Fredo has determined that "regardless of the outcome" of federal civil rights investigations he just ordered, "what is clear is these fatal shootings (of Stirling and Castile) are not isolated incidents".

I guess that means the president believes police are engaged in a national conspiracy to shoot black Americans.

Think any press might want to ask him about that incredible opinion?

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 09:41 AM (/m8T6)

206
YMMV. Never heard of this "web site".

Here's same story on the St. Louis Post-Disgrace website:

http://tinyurl.com/h6hg6ky

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 09:42 AM (SEFXb)

207 13
Black America post 1965 are our "Palestinian Problem."

An entire group of people kept in misery and squalor to be used as pawns to maintain the political power of the abusers and to be used to attack that group's political enemies and blame them for their misery.
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The Democrat Party is our UNRWA.

Posted by: Roy at July 11, 2016 09:42 AM (VndSC)

208 The only issue is whether a fetus is a human being. If it is, then it should not be killed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)

And the courts haven't reached that conclusion. And this is why abortion is a near perfect divisive argument. And while we dig our heels in that this is indeed an argument to have for the 90 millionth time and one that we already know we will lose if once again, if we take it back to the courts, at least we can feel better about ourselves that we at least made another losing argument while the $200 trillion debt takes another step toward $300 trillion.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)

209 I'm wondering just what kind of police dept has bricks of C4 just lying around waiting to be used to kill murderous perps?

Did the cops sit around in a meeting and put C4 on a wish list of stuff they wanted in inventory?

Or did they get it from the local C4 store? wtf?

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:43 AM (9FQSz)

210 Looking at the photos of the demonstrators in MN on the Powerline site. They're almost all white -- and probably not a single one of them knows what actually happened in the MN shooting. Yet they can't wait to paint their signs and go out and protest for "justice of Philando." What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 09:43 AM (NnYnv)

211 I am not saying that language should be included in the law, it is just my additional thought.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (805dc)

Yes...I clearly misunderstood your point, but that is not surprising. I'm slow.

Then we are on the same page.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)

212 200 BLM activist shot dead on Saturday after trying to break into St. Louis police officer's home after threatening him and his family.

http://bit.ly/29HEYof

YMMV. Never heard of this "web site".
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:39 AM (geVJ9)

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It's been all over DM. They kept trying to spin it as poor yoot. Not sure what the home owner could have done differently. They dont report the family's race but I suspect they are black since they met at church.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 11, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

213 What does that mean in a practical sense? State after state attempts to restrict unlimited abortion via the democratic process and the courts strike it down.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (evdj2)
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Alito talked often about the corrosive effect this exact point has on American civic life and on democracy. He agreed with you that it is devastating.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 09:44 AM (/m8T6)

214 A pound of C4? Even Sonny Corleone's mortician couldn't help that one.

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 11, 2016 09:45 AM (W2Rcw)

215 #205 I think we can take from The JEF's comments that he thinks the police are hunting HIM. At least his black half.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:45 AM (9FQSz)

216 I'm wondering just what kind of police dept has bricks of C4 just lying around waiting to be used to kill murderous perps?

You always hear of a bomb squad "detonating" a suspicious package? Yeah. They have to use something.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (geVJ9)

217 The woman decided to carry the baby to term anyway. The doctors were right. The child was born blind. His name is Andrea Bocelli.Posted by:�grammie winger�at July 11, 2016 09:29 AM (dFi94)

What an amazing voice he has. The first time I saw a video of him singing I didn't know he was blind. I honestly thought he looked kinda gay. After I found out he was blind I felt bad. But it went away.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (ZnIt3)

218 @213 Oops- I meant Scalia!

I wonder why I wrote Alito? Maybe I'm hoping he steps up his game.

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (/m8T6)

219 at least we can feel better about ourselves that we at least made another losing argument while the $200 trillion debt takes another step toward $300 trillion.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)
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Nowhere did I say that we should not be fighting for other reforms. As grammie so ably said, most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (805dc)

220 Even granting that the strong form pro-life position is a minority, albeit a very large one, I fear that they may at some point decide that the political process is hopeless biased against them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (evdj2)

221
I am not saying that language should be included in the law, it is just my additional thought.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:40 AM (805dc)
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IMO, you had best keep it out of your arguments, too.

Posted by: iforgot at July 11, 2016 09:48 AM (pC96u)

222 Then we are on the same page.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2016 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)
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Thank you, CBD.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:48 AM (805dc)

223
Did the cops sit around in a meeting and put C4 on a wish list of stuff they wanted in inventory?
Or did they get it from the local C4 store? wtf?
Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:43 AM

Gun show loophole.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 11, 2016 09:48 AM (IqV8l)

224 nood art thread

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2016 09:49 AM (WlGX+)

225 205 President Fredo has determined that "regardless of the outcome" of federal civil rights investigations he just ordered, "what is clear is these fatal shootings (of Stirling and Castile) are not isolated incidents".
___________________

Of course they're not isolated incidents. Hundreds of Americans are shot dead by cops in the U.S. every year. And most of the people shot dead by cops are white. In fact, gov't statistics show that twice as many whites are killed by cops as blacks, even though blacks commit most of the violent crimes in the U.S.

But when is the last time you saw a media frenzy over a white shooting victim? When was the last time you even saw a media report about a white person who was shot dead by a cop?

No, Obama, these shootings are not isolated incidents. But the media and political coverage they're getting paints a highly distorted (on purpose) picture of cop shooting incidents in the U.S.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 09:49 AM (NnYnv)

226 How many perfectly normal babies have been aborted because of misdiagnosed defects and health issues?

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2016 09:51 AM (B48dK)

227 But the media and political coverage they're getting paints a highly distorted (on purpose) picture of cop shooting incidents in the U.S.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2016 09:49 AM (NnYnv)
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....and.....Cui bono?!?!

Posted by: MTF at July 11, 2016 09:51 AM (/m8T6)

228 Um, I'll have a lottery ticket, and one of those Binacas, and a lighter, and yeah a comb, and 15 lbs of C4, and a fifth of Old Granddad, and umm oh yeah, a city map and a pack of gum...

/Police Department acquisitions officer nervously pacing at the Qwik-E-Mart

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 11, 2016 09:51 AM (mvenn)

229 IMO, you had best keep it out of your arguments, too.
Posted by: iforgot at July 11, 2016 09:48 AM (pC96u)
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My arguments with whom? With the people here? I thought it was okay to express our thoughts here.

I've got to leave now.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:52 AM (805dc)

230 Nowhere did I say that we should not be fighting for other reforms. As grammie so ably said, most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2016 09:47 AM (805dc)

Walking and talking... Apples and oranges.

You know full well that if you attempt to impose your beliefs on a significant enough segment of society that disagrees with you, they will not consider your stance morally justified. They will consider you a tyrant.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:52 AM (4ng05)

231 I'm wondering just what kind of police dept has bricks of C4 just lying around waiting to be used to kill murderous perps?

Bomb squad. For detonating suspicious items.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2016 09:52 AM (SEFXb)

232 #190 SCOTUS is just another front in the left's war on sanity. Instead of ruling on the law they make law.

In cases where they can't decide on the merits of the law they should defer to the legislature. If the legislature won't act then leave the case/controversy in limbo for the voters.

SSM was a perfect example of 'making law'.SSM was never protected by the Constitution....they just made that crap up. SCOTUS isn't far removed from a bunch of drunks arguing public policy.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:54 AM (9FQSz)

233 You know full well that if you attempt to impose
your beliefs on a significant enough segment of society that disagrees
with you, they will not consider your stance morally justified. They
will consider you a tyrant.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:52 AM (4ng05)
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And ? So? It's not as if they don't consider us tyrants on any number of issues. You seem very focused on what other people think, and how to make conservative non-offensive to people who hate us already to begin with. Buck up.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:56 AM (dFi94)

234 #231 I'm in a small town...we call ATF when there are 'suspicious' things. Doesn't everybody?

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2016 09:59 AM (9FQSz)

235 And ? So? It's not as if they don't consider us tyrants on any number of issues. You seem very focused on what other people think, and how to make conservative non-offensive to people who hate us already to begin with. Buck up.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 11, 2016 09:56 AM (dFi94)

I'm not focused on what other people think. I'm focused on rationality. If you think that going to the courts once again, to have the way you think imposed on people who don't think that way, especially when those who don't think that way are the courts - that's not rational.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 10:00 AM (4ng05)

236 24 Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she doesnt even want to contemplate a Donald Trump presidency, during a rare interview released Sunday in which she also talked of heading to New Zealand if the billionaire wins.

FUCK You you SOB

And WHEN EVER did s Supreme Court Judge become overtly political like that. The old bag should resign if she wants to campaign.. Disgusting

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Don't be too hard on her, she hasn't contemplated anything since she got her lib marching orders the day she was sworn in.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 11, 2016 10:05 AM (kfcYC)

237 They will consider you a tyrant.

You mean like how I consider the gay-mafia and their courts? Like that?

Posted by: GMan at July 11, 2016 10:32 AM (sxq57)

238 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 11, 2016 09:52 AM (4ng05)

It's not imposing my beliefs . It's protecting the natural rights of a living being. You don't think that 'blob'with fingers and toes and a heart is a human being. Fine but that's your belief that you are trying to impose on me. Science and my own eyes tells me who is right.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 11, 2016 10:53 AM (a/9Wy)

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