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Intermittent Fasting Post

We're talking about Intermittant Fasting below. Here are some videos about it.

I'm doing LCHF (Low carb high fat, like Atkins or Paleo or a dozen variations) plus IF (Intermittent fasting). I've lost 14 pounds in about a month (and remember, I was mostly in bad for a lot of it due to my eye exam). Another commenter went on it and lost 10 pounds in a month.

"Calories in calories out" is the most deadly mistake science has ever made, this researcher says.

It's completely wrong -- or not even wrong, says Gary Taubes.

All overweight is caused by chronically high insulin levels in the blood. Insulin sweeps energy out of your blood -- it tells glycogen to exit the blood and enter muscle or fat cells. But it mostly enters fat cells, unless you're exercising.

So having too much insulin results in you feeling hungry (because the energy-sustaining glycogen has been swept out of your blood and your brain gets signals it needs more energy) while simultaneously making you fat.

The way to fix this is to drive your insulin levels down. The two ways to do this is to avoid carbs -- which is the macro nutrient which causes the highest insulin response (fat causes very little insulin response) -- and not eating anything at all for extended periodsk, which is intermittent fasting. Basically, skipping breakfast and not having nighttime snacks so that for 16 (or more) hours per day you're in a "fasted state" -- say, from 12pm to 8pm you eat, but then you don't eat anything.

Why is that important? Because after 11-13 hours of no food, your fat burning machinery kicks on and then skyrockets. You burn fat in the "fasted state" because you have no other choice -- all the easy-to-burn glycogen in your blood has been used up and now the body must turn to burning fat.

Obviously, the longer you can continue this fasted state (up to 24 hours, or even longer, if you're a fasting monster), the more fat you burn.

So here's what this is all about:

These guys introduced me to Intermittent Fasting, and have a whole youtube channel on it (FAsting Twins). They curse a lot, but are hilarious.

They say that with conventional diet and exercise, they couldn't get below 10% body fat, but when they started Intermittent fasting, they went down to 6% or so in a hurry, and in fact got their body fat down to such a low level they had to back off the IF and do it less strictly.

This doctor, an expert on diabetes and obesity, says he cures people of diabetes (and obesity) by putting them on intermittent fasting regimes.

Fung is a major legitimizer of the practice -- a doctor that says not only is this safe, it's healthy.

This guy recommends a slightly more extreme version of Intermittent Fasting called the Warrior diet, which is a one meal per day plan. Thus, for about 23 hours a day, you're fasting.

I'm doing this now because I hit a plateau and I'm just not losing as fast as I want.


This guy says he lost 145 or 150 pounds (depending on when the video dates from) over two years using High Fat Low Carb and Intermittent Fasting in combination (which Dr. Fung recommends).

This video he also did is good as far as explaining disordered insulin response (which almost all overweight people have), and how intermittent fasting combats it. Skip to 18:00 to see how your fat-burning begins zooming up at eleven hours without food.


Finally, this is Gary Taubes explaining that no, fat doesn't make you fat -- carbohydrates do. Carbs drive insulin response, and insulin sweeps glycogen out of the blood and packs it into fat cells.


How hard is this? Not hard. Initially, your brain will tell you to eat when you're used to eating. It will tell you to have breakfast, and lie to you that you're hungry

But after a week or so, your body adjusts to the new regime, and fat-burning now fills your blood with sugar (gycogen), and you're not really hungry on the plan anymore.

Once you're doing 16 hour fasts regularly, it's pretty easy to extend that to 23-24 hours. Hell, sometimes you just sort of blunder into it.

Now, a 16 hour fast is easy; a 24 hour fast, for me at least, is not easy. It's doable, but yeah, at the 20-21 hour mark, I start thinking about food a lot.

Posted by: Ace at 05:52 PM




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1 I'll pass on fasting

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 05:53 PM (Yo9Lf)

2 Fifty third!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 05:53 PM (+eR2D)

3 Interesting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2016 05:54 PM (3ZoRf)

4 In high school I tried the intermittent fast thing. My track coach was not impressed.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 07, 2016 05:54 PM (mvenn)

5 Yes, interesting. I like to eat too much to fast though and when I feel hungry for too long, I get lightheaded and sick to my stomach.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 05:55 PM (+eR2D)

6 Then I get angry from being hungry. It isn't pretty.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 05:55 PM (+eR2D)

7 Every couple months I have to be fasting when I go to get bloodwork done. Means I'm up at 6 and don't eat till after 10.

This fat kid hates that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 07, 2016 05:56 PM (7PB/U)

8 I need to try this.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 05:56 PM (xVgrA)

9 Vodka and cigarettes lo these many years, have let me maintain my figure.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 05:56 PM (6Ll1u)

10 I'm using my GP's advice, combined with my grandmother's second husband's advice (as she relayed it to me; he was an MD).


GP: If you go into the woods and can kill, find, pick, or harvest it, you're allowed to eat it.


Grandma's 2nd Husband: In general, if it's white, don't eat it: rice, potatoes, bread, salt, refined sugar.


Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 05:56 PM (GUBah)

11 years ago a doctor gave me a prescription for vibramycin, which did no good as I had some sort of chest virus, but one of the side effects was I was so nauseated that I didn't eat for five days. Dropped 10 pounds. Yay.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (qSIlh)

12 Dangergirl,
Around here we call that being "Hangry." Nope, not pretty at all.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (xVgrA)

13 True paleo diet: handful of berries and a small rodent every third or fourth day, just like our slow footed fore-fathers.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (vc6c9)

14 I don't know. I think the "Intermitent fasting guy-ovrview doesn't look so hot. I guess the 6 pack abs are supposed to disguise that .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (frf5f)

15 I fasted for all of Lent once, meaning one meal a day and only water to drink. It was really healthy and I felt great on Easter. I abstained from all meat during another Lent and thought I was going to die.

I hope his works for you, Ace.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (6IPEM)

16 The robutt is pretty fast.

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (ruxTZ)

17 I did this years ago to lose about 30 lbs.

Lost it all and kept it off all these years, with regular working out and eating right.

I generally kept it quiet when I was doing it because I got a lot of OMG's and earnest advice not to keep doing it when it got out. Turns out I was a genius.

It's really not as hard as it may sound.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (WlGX+)

18 GP: If you go into the woods and can kill, find, pick, or harvest it, you're allowed to eat it.


Grandma's 2nd Husband: In general, if it's white, don't eat it: rice, potatoes, bread, salt, refined sugar.



Helps to be able to identify mushrooms.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (vc6c9)

19 I'm going to go fast for a while. It may appear that I'm taking a nap... but really, I'm fasting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (9mTYi)

20 Very cool, thanks for posting this!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (NOIQH)

21 I eat whatever I want, I'm not going to gain a pound. I've tried.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (Yo9Lf)

22 Jimmy Kimmel does the fasting diet. Seemed to work great for him. On the fasting days you can have up to 500 calories.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (cNJvW)

23 Want results fast? Try the Fat Fast. I've tried it. Not for the weak of will, which I have since become. Keto Diet blog has a good rundown on it.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (bGLSw)

24 9 I'm going to go fast for a while. It may appear that I'm taking a nap... but really, I'm fasting.
--------
So hibernating?

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (xVgrA)

25 Around here we call that being "Hangry." Nope, not pretty at all.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 05:57 PM (xVgrA)



I definitely have a "hangry" problem. Speaking of which, time to go brown some meat for tacos.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (+eR2D)

26 I instinctively dislike gimmick diets, but I'll take a look.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 07, 2016 05:59 PM (ppaKI)

27 re 10: dead raccoon, yum.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at July 07, 2016 06:00 PM (qSIlh)

28 And having a POW as an advertisement for your diet I would think not helpful.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 06:00 PM (cNJvW)

29 We have a nationwide health practice and we offer an Optimal Health program that is used by Johns Hopkins (since 2002). Our clien ts lose 2-5 lbs per week. It is a nutritional intervention anfd lifestyle program that is safe and causes the body to target fat only when the weight loss protocal is used. I lost 40lbs in 8 weeks 9...yes NINE-- years ago. I have kept it off because of the plans lifestyle progranm helped mre learn the behavior and lifestyle changes so that I could keep my healthy weight for a lifetime. Most recent patient total loss on our program was 87 lbs in 16 weeks.

Posted by: Rick Kahdeman at July 07, 2016 06:00 PM (U7wdx)

30 Thank you, Ace!

I'll be watching those videos taking notes.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 07, 2016 06:00 PM (U+nHb)

31 I eat whatever I want, I'm not going to gain a pound. I've tried.





Same here. I gain weight, but all my numbers are in the good zone. Heart beat, bp, cholesterol. Stumps my doctor.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 07, 2016 06:00 PM (vc6c9)

32 Interesting. I might try this, starting tomorrow. I don't feel the need to eat in the morning. If I just do lunch and supper, I can probably pull that off.

Can't hurt.

I did do Low-Carb and it did work. I lost weight. But it borked my digestion and made me start getting allergic reactions to food I'd previously eaten all my life. Not very happy about that, pretty sure some gut bacteria died off during the diet and, no, fecal transplants are not on the menu.

So to speak...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (IdS8C)

33 You won't be starving in the camps, you'll be fasting. For your own good.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Hillary at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (XVTvT)

34 I had Taco Bell and a cupcake for lunch today. I don't think that's how you do it.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (cNJvW)

35 Dear Ace, you might also consider strength training as an adjunct.

Ripletoe (evangelized by Instapundit) has a very -short- workout routine. And if you aren't interested in going up in weights all the time, but instead maintaining your current level of strength, it becomes -very- short.

The thing about strength training is that your body decides "I need to keep more muscle", instead of merely deciding "I need more food".

Posted by: Al at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (Y9gDM)

36 Since I quit smoking all I want to do is eat. So I can do no fasting. After I quit smoking I gained 10 pounds and still struggle to not gain more.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (mpXpK)

37 I had to fast last night and this morning for my blood work today.
Tonight I splurge on beer and peanut M&M's!

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 06:01 PM (HgMAr)

38 Helps to be able to identify mushrooms.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 07, 2016 05:58 PM (vc6c9)


Fortunately for me, the shiitakes are clearly marked in the produce section. Learning 'shroom ID in the wild is on my list of things to learn. Or I may just get one of those "grow your own" logs.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 06:02 PM (GUBah)

39 This stuff is good.

Posted by: StuckInCA at July 07, 2016 06:03 PM (1JmRz)

40 Ace,

How do you deal with the side-effects of fasting?

I can do it, but it definitely feels a little weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 07, 2016 06:03 PM (Zu3d9)

41 anything ending in -ose is sugar.
Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 05:25 PM (dciA+)


*******


Sweet!!!

Posted by: Ambrose Bierce at July 07, 2016 06:03 PM (mvenn)

42 I basically only eat one meal a day.

I'm a carb monster tho. But even tho I only eat one meal I still don't eat all that much in that one meal.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 06:03 PM (qUNWi)

43 so in other words
a - I'd be better off with heavy cream instead of low fat milk in the morning coffees?
b - if it's on sale, I could buy a pound of bacon, go home, make a pig of myself?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at July 07, 2016 06:04 PM (qSIlh)

44 Ya, even Clinton Foundation money could not make me gain weight, it's a life long metabolism thing. But I have plenty of friends and family that are fighting hard to lose weight, so I appreciate how hard it is. Keep up the fight.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:04 PM (6Ll1u)

45

Rapey Thursday?

In the last 12 years in Massachusetts, 42/300 rapists CONVICTED of rape did No Time. Why? Because they had no prior serious convictions! So, practically boy scouts.

http://tinyurl.com/zx3n52x


Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 07, 2016 06:04 PM (cW/qd)

46 34 I had Taco Bell and a cupcake for lunch today. I don't think that's how you do it.
................

You forgot to chug tequila after.

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 06:05 PM (HgMAr)

47 My grandfather helpfully told me the best weight-loss plan is to "eat like a bird and shit like an elephant".

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 07, 2016 06:06 PM (ppaKI)

48 anything ending in -ose is sugar?

so I'm sweet when I'm morose..?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at July 07, 2016 06:06 PM (qSIlh)

49 Morose ...moron sugar?

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 06:06 PM (qUNWi)

50 The high fat thing only works if you do the low carb with it.
Don't ask how I know that adding a bunch of fat to your diet while changing nothing else doesn't work.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 06:06 PM (xVgrA)

51 Carbs are the enemy!

Posted by: Fat Bastard at July 07, 2016 06:07 PM (yNyJy)

52 Dang Winona...bounce em like you got a pair.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 06:07 PM (qUNWi)

53 I generally follow the Paleo diet, and twice a week I fast from morning until about 2:00. At that time I have a piece of fruit. I find that the hunger is almost unnoticeable, maybe because my system is accustomed to burning off fat reserves.

Posted by: GolfBoy at July 07, 2016 06:08 PM (moQX0)

54 26 I instinctively dislike gimmick diets, but I'll take a look.

This one has actual science behind it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:08 PM (WlGX+)

55 I'm six foot , 180 but I have always had a slightly elevated level of cholesterol. My triglycerides are always in range. I don't do a lot of sugar but bread is a weakness because of convenience. Haven't had a soda in 15 years. My problem is I consume too much at a sitting. I can eat an entire large pizza no problem.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 06:08 PM (cNJvW)

56 This wasnt popular with me but I have found cutting my wine consumption helped me lose weight.

Posted by: MTF at July 07, 2016 06:08 PM (73ec4)

57 Is the Intermittent Fasting Dude wearing a belly button ring?

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 06:09 PM (HgMAr)

58 The fasting diet actually doesn't sound gimmicky to me since I've apparently been on it without knowing for about 10 years.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 06:10 PM (qUNWi)

59 I may give this a shot.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 07, 2016 06:10 PM (cPMmb)

60 Ace, I think you may be discussing the *glucose* levels found in blood. Glycogen is stored in muscles and in the liver.

Posted by: Avogadra at July 07, 2016 06:11 PM (UDMos)

61 "a - I'd be better off with heavy cream instead of low fat milk in the morning coffees?
"

Yes. LF milk has a slight carb count from lactose. Heavy cream has none, or next to none. Even half and half has a little but I consider it negligible in the greater scheme of low carb.


"b - if it's on sale, I could buy a pound of bacon, go home, make a pig of myself?"

If you're really doing low carb, you won't want to. Your natural "I've had enough" shutoff works great when you're a fat burner. Blood sugar spikes screw that indicator when we eat high carb.

#1 unbreakable rule of low carb: you MUST jack up the the healthy fats for it to work. If you don't you'll be miserable and quit.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:11 PM (bGLSw)

62
The Dirt Diet has achieved impressive results. A gazillion starving Norks can't be wrong.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 07, 2016 06:11 PM (BK3ZS)

63 Banned?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:12 PM (kTF2Z)

64 I go out to eat once a month, otherwise I shop for and cook all my own food. It is a commitment that for some is hard to do, given the busy life's of families today. Just do your best, and involve the kids, that's how learned to cook.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:13 PM (6Ll1u)

65 I looked at Dr Fung's site after Ace talked about it and got convinced.
It does work.

One thing I like about low-carbing is that I no longer feel the carb cravings - which made me frantically look through the pantry for something, anything!
The first week was like that.

Now when I get hungry it's just my stomach feeling hungry, not my brain.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:13 PM (7lVbc)

66 Hey but the USDA says you need 11 servings of grains a day. Gotta keep that corn lobby happy.

I get tired of hearing "calories in calories out." I used to be a personal trainer - people will do whatever they possibly can to keep justifying eating junk food. Eating 500 calories of pop tarts will make you feel like crap and you'll be hungry again quickly since it's just sugar.

Glad to see that this is becoming more mainstream.

Posted by: brak at July 07, 2016 06:13 PM (MJuTN)

67 And don't forget to take some diuretics.

I'm on some diuretics that have driven my weight down 30 lbs with NO other thing being done.

You too may have a sluggish kidney or imbalance of your electrolytes and are retaining too much water.

There are natural diuretics and some otc and there's some prescription ones that your doctor can prescribe if you need to lose some weight.

See now I was brought up in the '70's that eating a little all the time was the way to go as it shut down the hunger feelings from the stomach but now this here is making a bit more sense.

And it reflects the conditions that were going on when we evolved. People forget we are still using a biological system that was developed when we were omnivores browsing for food and spending a large amount of time hiding in the trees from carnivores.

That means eat fast and then hide and usually you can't hide where the eating's good. You hide where you're safe. Not at the watering hole.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 07, 2016 06:14 PM (ECJ+C)

68 "Hanger" is caused by low blood sugar.

Your body can burn fat to pump blood sugar into your blood, but it's probably out of the habit of doing so because people eat every few hours.

Once you're used to this -- doing it a week or so -- your body is now trained to start burning fat when sugar gets low.

It doesn't take long. A week.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 06:14 PM (dciA+)

69 OT for the 'ettes:

I tweeted links to two free clean historical romances today

If you go to the @bookhorde twitter account its the most recent two tweets.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (7lVbc)

70 Fasting while you are in a Atkins ketonic state makes great sense. Normally if you don't eat your metabolism just slows down to see if this is a temporary condition or not. You never get into a fat burning state unless the fast is prolonged. If you are already in some ketosis from your low/no carb diet, even a one day fast should draw straight from your fat reserve.

Or so it seems to me anyways.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (rwI+c)

71 I've signed up with a nutritional coaching program. The system has never been called Paleo but that's what I think it is.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (hJrjt)

72 Eleven hours is where it begins? I know what I have to do.

Posted by: fluffy at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (eiFlk)

73 Meat, veg salad, exercise.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (XVTvT)

74 Wow.

Leave this place for a week (ok, six days) and blammo.
I'd ask what I missed, but a quick scroll down and...

Nope. Not going there. I'd rather see CBD's fat guy on an ottoman again. (not really, but hey)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (C9pBZ)

75 That Angus looks tasty.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (ggrt+)

76 Whew! Want to lose weight? Eat slower. There is about a ten minute lag between being full and your brain realizing that you're full. I can do a lot of damage in those ten minutes, particularly if there's a plate of enchiladas in front of me. I lost 40 lbs in 6 months doing this. Kept it off too.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (kTF2Z)

77
I don't know all about the science part obviously, but my observations from nature is that most wild animals don't get fat except for the hated hoarding squirrels in suburbs. My once a day eating dog (with a few treats) is also a muscle monster. So seems reasonable.

Then there is me. I like pie.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 07, 2016 06:16 PM (ODxAs)

78 One thing I also found out is that a keto / high fat diet is actually a therapy for epilepsy / seizures.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:16 PM (7lVbc)

79 anything ending in -ose is sugar.


*****

Trigglypuff's caboose?


Prolly more fat than sugar.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 07, 2016 06:16 PM (mvenn)

80 I don't believe in fasting, I'm just poor.

Posted by: Phone of kari at July 07, 2016 06:17 PM (UlS21)

81 I may be doing this unintentionally. I often only have coffee in the morning then again in the afternoon and then eat my first substantial meal around 10:30-11 at night. But those are big meals and I usually follow it up with lost of orange juice and various deserts. Coffee is one hell of an appetite suppressant. I'm 5'7" and weigh 157 lb. I could stand to loose 1.5 lb.

By the way, I worked with a Chinese guy who claims they don't eat dinner in China. Just breakfast, a really big lunch and than just a snack for dinner.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 07, 2016 06:17 PM (Uy6ri)

82 Not sure about a low crab diet.

Posted by: Spongeboob at July 07, 2016 06:17 PM (IqV8l)

83 I'm not a particularly large guy, 5 foot ssseeeevvv... six... and a half... -ish... and I've weighed 130lbs pretty damn consistently for the last 15 years.

But, for the past month have been doing a lot of woodworking in the shop at my house. Can be in there from like 9AM-9PM some days if I get caught up in what I'm doing. Usually eat something before heading in there, drink a lot during the day, and eat a pretty good size meal when I'm done (for someone my size, all you can eat buffets are usually afraid of me) and I've been "struggling" to stay at about 120lbs.

Never my intention to loose wieght, but there's definitely something to this fasting thing.

Posted by: just a random Moron at July 07, 2016 06:18 PM (H9MG5)

84 The USDA which is charged with providing diet information is also charged with promoting farm industry.

See the conflict?

It's like the FAA is supposed to regulate Air Lines and promote Air Travel.

Congress does this all the time; set up an agency that has two diametrically opposed goals.

The whole damn country is schizo.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 07, 2016 06:18 PM (ECJ+C)

85 I am making some dirty rice using a mix and thought this was funny:

Brown 1lb meat. Drain fat.

In the next line: add 1 tbsp vegetable oil (optional.)

Really? Why don't I just not drain the meat and call it a day?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2016 06:18 PM (3ZoRf)

86 I've read that intermittent fasting doesn't work as well for women. Any moronettes out there who have tried it?

Posted by: Wordygirl at July 07, 2016 06:18 PM (+vebT)

87 >> I've read that intermittent fasting doesn't work as well for women.


They only lose about 70% the weight that men do.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2016 06:19 PM (ggrt+)

88 I fast between every meal and/or snack.

I'm hungry, back later.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 06:19 PM (3myMJ)

89 >>>Not sure about a low crab diet.



Posted by: Spongeboob at July 07, 2016 06:17 PM (IqV8l)<<<

Doesn't work. Especially if it's in a prairie crab omelet.

Posted by: Sit-In Bull Warren at July 07, 2016 06:19 PM (H9MG5)

90 The classic MadTV "Eat Less Move More" sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKs0oEIVOck

It's funny cuz it's true.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:19 PM (WlGX+)

91 I get really cranky when it's been too long since a meal. That being said, maybe I should give this a whirl...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at July 07, 2016 06:19 PM (vyqqu)

92 Btw, I have a theory, based on observation of my own body, that fat changes over time, and that old fat is much much harder to remove, like it's gone waxy rather than oily.

I've lost 25 pounds this year on low carb, in cycles (because that seems to work for me, down 15 up 5 down 15 up 5). Whenever I hit the old fat, weight loss slows down and I have to really push through it.

On the bright side, I'm burning 2005 fat right now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (rwI+c)

93 I think this is basically what I do? I lift weights, walk around in the swamp-like DC heat, and the only carbs I consume are from beer or hard cider.

Posted by: some asshole at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (l9C+f)

94 Voterma a diet I've found to be therapeutic is my "4th of July diet" where I eat all the food at my parent's house and then go next door to my grandmother's and talk about how badly I to diet while eating all of her food.

Posted by: Phone of kari at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (UlS21)

95 So no more having your girl making sammiches. Steak sammiches , hold the bread.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (cNJvW)

96 Ace,

I.F. was good for about 20 pounds and it stopped working. I still do it Monday - Friday, because I don't want to gain the weight back. Need to lose 20 more pounds, but I just can't stop drinking beer.

The good news is I'm light enough to comfortably go jogging now, which has been a great stress reliever.

Posted by: Max Power at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (q177U)

97 >>> It doesn't take long. A week.

I think I can do that. Pretty sure I don't want to do the 'butter makes your pants fall down', though.

Posted by: fluffy at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (eiFlk)

98 Meat, veg salad, exercise.


Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (XVTvT)


I've been eating a lot of my own version of stir fry. Some kind of meat, usually chicken, beef, venison, or salmon cooked up in a skillet with some olive oil. Take meat out and put it on a plate, throw fresh veggies in the skillet, usually some combo of broccoli, asparagus, carrots, bell peppers, onions, mushrooms, and garlic. Sometimes I'll use shallots as well. Cook the veggies just long enough to heat them up but retain their crispiness. Toss 'em on the plate with the meat and chow down.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 06:21 PM (GUBah)

99 I have lost over 35 lbs by eating much less. I eat what i want, but eat about 1/4 of what I used to eat and I eat it in small portions over the day. More small meals/snacks. I went from a 36 waist to a 32/31. Oh and i hardly drink anymore. Some wine or booze but NO beer.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:21 PM (Ozsfq)

100 86 I've read that intermittent fasting doesn't work as well for women. Any moronettes out there who have tried it?
Posted by: Wordygirl at July 07, 2016 06:18 PM (+vebT)

I'm doing the skip breakfast thing.

I was stalled on just low-carb - either from my age or from my bp meds - and the skipping breakfast thing has me losing weight.

So it works for me.

I had to work up to it - couldn't make it all the way to lunch at first.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:21 PM (7lVbc)

101 They only lose about 70% the weight that men do.

ISWYDT *snork*

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:21 PM (rwI+c)

102 I love this thread. Thank you for this ace.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 06:21 PM (R5HRU)

103 >>They only lose about 70% the weight that men do.

heh

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2016 06:22 PM (/tuJf)

104 Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:15 PM (kTF2Z)

So True.

I've found that by the time I feel full, I've eaten too much.

I've taken to also using my budget to manipulate me into eating less. I'm eating about $50 or more a month less because I'm allocating that money to other stuff I want to do.

The way I do it is sequester that money on a monthly spread sheet that shows how much money I've spent and how much I have available to spend.

By playing with the different allotments it makes me spend less on food for the month.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 07, 2016 06:22 PM (ECJ+C)

105 Oh yeah, I also will toss in some sliced almonds, about a heaping tablespoon or so.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 06:22 PM (GUBah)

106 When you're shivering in the lower bunk at Happy Fun Camp, you will lust mightily after that missing fat.
(Warily looks into cloudy sky for incoming banhammers)

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 07, 2016 06:22 PM (BtTA1)

107 BTW - good job on the Hodge Twins. Very good and informative.

This shit is getting me inspired to lose much necessary weight.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 06:22 PM (R5HRU)

108 I like pie.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 07, 2016 06:23 PM (8ZskC)

109 94 Voterma a diet I've found to be therapeutic is my "4th of July diet" where I eat all the food at my parent's house and then go next door to my grandmother's and talk about how badly I to diet while eating all of her food.
Posted by: Phone of kari at July 07, 2016 06:20 PM (UlS21)

LOL

Feeding our kids makes us happy so you are doing both your parents and your grannie a favor.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:23 PM (7lVbc)

110 >>I get really cranky when it's been too long since a meal.

Have a Snickers.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2016 06:23 PM (/tuJf)

111 Fasting occasionally is a healthy practice. For myself it's as much a willpower test and means of building eating discipline while not fasting as anything.

Posted by: Crom's Dirty Underpants at July 07, 2016 06:23 PM (xudgf)

112 In 2011 I achieved my goal weight (had taken off 27 pounds). No substitute foods. I use olive oil, butter, 1/2 & 1/2, sugar, drink wine--even while taking the weight off. When in January 2008 I saw that George Soros was going to see to it that Obama be elected, I told my husband we need to fast and pray for this country. Each Tuesday (with a few diversions) we have. I've kept the weight off. At one point, I looked into the fasting, to make sure it wasn't a physical negative. I came across research that stated a person can consume the same # of calories each week, but eaten in 6 days instead of 7, results in a lower body weight. Right now, 2016, I'm one of the 5 in 100 that is keeping off lost pounds. As for the spiritual dimension, I leave that in God's hands.

Posted by: Sharon W at July 07, 2016 06:24 PM (Xhsh5)

113 >>>I like pie.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 07, 2016 06:23 PM (8ZskC)<<<

You should try and cut down on the paste. It really sticks to your ribs.

Posted by: the White House chef at July 07, 2016 06:24 PM (H9MG5)

114 83

Same here, pretty much. 5'10 and 117 when I graduated H.S. Had to get a low weight waiver from the doc to join the military (proving there was nothing wrong with me).

Started putting on too much fat for my skinny frame in my late 30s so have been doing varying degrees of low carb since. All my numbers have improved over the years just from that, and some of them started out nasty to borderline alarming.

Now I'm pushing 50 and holding around 155, 32" waist (was up to 36" in my 30s) but a spare tire starts to inflate if I even LOOK at starch. Willpower is also starting to slide so I know where this is heading.

Hopefully you don't have the genetics that tells you to put on fat past a certain age. People with our frame do not carry it well at all, as nothing can conceal it. Still, I know it's the body's safety reserve against illness in middle and old age, so I can live with it.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:24 PM (bGLSw)

115 No pain, no gain.

Posted by: the Fisting Twins at July 07, 2016 06:24 PM (roFmD)

116 There was an article in the Daily Mail today that said pasta won't make you fat. Didn't read it though, it was the Daily Mail.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:25 PM (6Ll1u)

117 Fasting now is also good training for the Burning Time. If you are useless after three days without food, you aren't going to make it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:25 PM (rwI+c)

118 http://www.leangains.com/

For all the science and shit behind intermittent fasting.

Posted by: Mellow at July 07, 2016 06:25 PM (OQY7D)

119 Yup. It's those jumping insulin events that are the cause of being overweight (and extremely unhealthy).

But there's no need for all that fasting, if you just STOP putting your pancreas into panic mode every damned time you put something in your mouth!

Why is there sugar in ketchup, salami, peanut butter... and a host of other "non-sweet" foods? The food manufacturers are insane. Stop eating their crap!

Stop eating 90% of what is on your grocery store shelves!

Western Civilization is addicted to sugar. Everything that used to be ordinarily healthy (yogurt, granola bars) has been turned into a sugary dessert/candy.

Eat what your body needs. Stop using food as entertainment.

Posted by: RKae at July 07, 2016 06:26 PM (px1e7)

120 On Obama's legacy: "

The sad truth is that the United States today is weaker economically, more divided socially, and more disrespected across the globe than it was before Obama took office."

-Richard Epstein

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 06:27 PM (3myMJ)

121 Stop using food as entertainment.

No can, brah. Good food is entertainment.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:27 PM (rwI+c)

122 So, Obama should have fasted more, dammit.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 06:27 PM (3myMJ)

123 #99 Oh and i hardly drink anymore. Some wine or booze but NO beer.

This. Sadly. But it's true and we all know it. Empty calories are the worst and they. will. make. you. fat. I too find the best workable option, if one drinks at all, is to keep it to liquor or wine, not beer, in moderation.

It's the 7th of July and my last beer was last Christmas Eve. This is about the longest I've ever gone. I'll have a shot or two or some wine like NGU. Within moderation. A little liquor is also better for my reflux than beer.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:28 PM (WlGX+)

124 So while I was looking up the seizures thing (for a freind) I saw a study which huffpoop was shrieking about, that a high fat diet is bad for your brain.

So I looked and it was in rat brains.

I guess they should be concerned, being DemocRATS.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:29 PM (7lVbc)

125 Ace, thanks for this post. I've been sort of dieting since last fall and have lost 40 lbs. joined a gym and work out 5 days a week. Being a slight diabetic I was wondering if fasting is ok. I'm going to look more into this with my doctor.

Posted by: jaimo at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (eDc0r)

126 Simple, Ace. Here's what I do. Cut the carbs, stay under 2,000 calories a day, exercise to burn off about 400 per day (walking works for me), sugar and booze in very limited amounts. Hard in the beginning, easy now.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (/WPPJ)

127 One thing I also found out is that a keto / high fat diet is actually a therapy for epilepsy / seizures.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:16 PM (7lVbc)
===========================================

Really? Huh - I did not know that. Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (dFi94)

128 >>>Hopefully you don't have the genetics that tells
you to put on fat past a certain age. People with our frame do not
carry it well at all, as nothing can conceal it. Still, I know it's the
body's safety reserve against illness in middle and old age, so I can
live with it.


Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:24 PM (bGLSw)<<<

Yeah, I've considered that with how much I actually can eat, but (knock on wood) that won't be a problem. Even at 130 it wasn't fat (though not exactly all muscle), but always told I'm too scrawny. At 36, it's awkward when friends 13 year olds are a lot bigger than you. **sigh**

Posted by: a miniature Moron (but not AtC tiny) at July 07, 2016 06:32 PM (H9MG5)

129 My problem is I consume too much at a sitting. I can eat an entire large pizza no problem.

Fasting does have a significant effect on when you start feeling full. After a few weeks of intermediate fasting I found I couldn't finish full meals at restaurants and even half orders seemed a bit much sometimes. It wasn't the richness of the food just purely volume constraints.

Before that, yes I could easily scarf a whole pizza my self.

Posted by: bananaDream at July 07, 2016 06:34 PM (R9XV4)

130 Ace, what should also be mentioned is that IF can reduce muscle mass if you are weight training. A lot of muscle bulk is due to water and nutrients stored in the muscle tissue after lifting and eating, and IF will reduce that water weight quickly. That's why body builders and boxers can fluctuate their weight so drastically. I've confirmed this countless times over the years because of Saturday hangovers that prevent me from eating all day (my hangovers are terrible now), which then cause an instant drop in my muscle mass.

Posted by: Brisco_County at July 07, 2016 06:34 PM (tgRox)

131 I'll have a shot or two or some wine like NGU. Within moderation. A little liquor is also better for my reflux than beer.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:28 PM (WlGX+)

exactly. If I go out with friends I might order a Scotch and nurse it all night. If I go out with frenemies I order beans and make them suffer!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:34 PM (Ozsfq)

132 RUN.
I did Paleo after deriding my son for several years. Life changer but it only works, the weight really pours off when I run. I swim intermittently but hill-climbing, sweat-pouring (heartrate to 80%) running is the key for me. Ace, try trail running. Join a local running club. I was apprehensive but just did it. Sure, most of them are faster than me but they all are welcoming (I'm in a club in NY, the Leatherman Harriers, and LA, the Santa Monica Goats.)
RUN...4-6 times a week. I'm up to 7-10 miles once a week with 5 miles easily 4 times a week.

RUN

Posted by: Chris Cassone at July 07, 2016 06:34 PM (wAf3/)

133 After a few weeks of intermediate fasting I found I couldn't finish full meals at restaurants and even half orders seemed a bit much sometimes. It wasn't the richness of the food just purely volume constraints.


Yup as i started losing weight I felt and feel the same way. As a matter of fact when I go out I often now order soups and an appetizer and call it a night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:36 PM (Ozsfq)

134 RUN

Posted by: Chris Cassone at July 07, 2016 06:34 PM (wAf3/)
===========================================

What? And break a hip?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 06:36 PM (dFi94)

135 Part of the problem is that for some people, they need to eat/munch while sitting at the computer or whatever. When I'm out and about -- like in trial or running errands or whatever -- and I don't have time to eat, I actually don't care. I'm too busy to eat unless I'm really hungry and if I've eaten in the last 8-12 hours or so, as long as I'm not thinking about it, I don't feel the need to eat.

When I'm stoned I'm pretty good about what I eat -- chicken/meat with cheese and some kind of sauce, hummus by the spoonful, some veggies -- but my weakness is fruit. I love fruit when I'm stoned, esp. mango, pineapple, and cherries.

Good for ya Ace in doing this. I need to drop about 10-15 myself and I'm going to start that pretty soon. Get back to working out, walking more, and only eating when I'm *actually* hungry.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (dZ756)

136 78 @votermom --

The ketogenic diet is EXTREMELY low carb. And it's also effective. My oldest went from continuous seizures to--well, it's been four years since her last.

Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (7zeA4)

137 Also may wife has gone gluten and everything else good free so the food sucks at home. It's like living in Biafra here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (Ozsfq)

138 Essence of the Fat Fast:

1200 calories as a daily max for no more than 3-5 days. 80-90% of the day's calories must come from fats. How you divide up your meals is your call. Cut out all carbs and restrict protein for the duration of the fast.

Advisable only for those who are already fat burners. I would not attempt this coming cold off a regular diet without trying to burn out some glycogen first.

Once you get through the F.F., even restrictive low carb looks like a wondrous bountiful feast.

Great. Now I gotta do it.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (bGLSw)

139 Also may wife has gone gluten and everything else good free so the food sucks at home. It's like living in Biafra here
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (Ozsfq)


But not Jello Biafra, of course.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 07, 2016 06:38 PM (tDTB7)

140 I'll probably try IF and low carb once I move. Since I'll be in school and studying instead of working, I'll have a bit more freedom to find what works. And since I'll be a poor college student, I'll have incentive to cook for myself rather than taking the easy route of fast food.

I am trying to hit the gym three days a week, combined with running twice a week, so even if I'm big I'm not a completely fat slob.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 07, 2016 06:38 PM (LUG6K)

141 Really? Huh - I did not know that. Thanks.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (dFi94

--

Yes, established since the 1920s as a way to reduce seizures in children, recently proven to be helpful in adults too.
But I think doctors assume it's too hard to stick to outside a hospital setting.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:39 PM (7lVbc)

142 The ketogenic diet is EXTREMELY low carb. And it's also effective. My oldest went from continuous seizures to--well, it's been four years since her last.
Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 06:37 PM (7zeA4)

that's wonderful!

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:40 PM (7lVbc)

143 Posted by: jaimo at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (eDc0r)

Excellent point. Diabetics should never fast without their doctor's knowledge and approval.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:40 PM (WlGX+)

144 This sounds like something I may try (been reading/learning about it from multiple sources). I quit eating wheat for the past 6 months. I was about 30 lbs overweight when I started. I lost 25 lbs in 3 months (also with light exercise). Want to try this for a short/sustained routine to see if it facilitates the last remaining few lbs. Also curious about other possible health benefits

Posted by: ajlfour at July 07, 2016 06:41 PM (33IUI)

145 Being tall is not all it is cracked up to be, old ladies gravitate to me and ask if I could get that jar off the top shelf for them. I don't mind helping, but they do babble on, and on, and on. Oh wait, that could be me in a few years just talking and talking...

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:41 PM (6Ll1u)

146 Former Special Operators Really Pissed Off Over FBI Decision To Let Clinton Off



From HuckFunn: Comeys decision to let Hillary off the hook has no doubt angered many in the intelligence agencies, the military and the FBI. It shouldnt be surprising to see some of them leaking damaging information against Hillary and the Obama regime.

Weasel Zippers

I sure hope so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:42 PM (Ozsfq)

147 128

I know exactly what you're saying and felt the same many times. Until my mid 30s I couldn't put on weight if I had to save my life...not fat, not muscle, nothing.

Anyway, if the fat is going to start up on you too, it'll likely start anytime in the next few years. If it does it's going to bug you to death.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:42 PM (bGLSw)

148 Between 15-7 years ago I did the intermediate fasting thing plus did cardio in the morning as soon as I woke up in the morning with the theory that I was burning nothing but fat.
I'd lift weights in the afternoon.

Then I was told a couple of years ago that I was probably burning and harming the organs in my body (mainly heart) because that strategy.

Now that I've had many surgeries and become fat like Cartman when he put on mass, I'm looking for a strategy without destroying my organs.

I guess I'll do intermediate fasting plus cardio in the morning to start off with as I have plenty of fat to burn off.

If anybody has any input on training (building muscle and rehabbing old injuries) while fasting I'm all ears and would be very grateful.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 07, 2016 06:42 PM (MlXgU)

149 Being tall is not all it is cracked up to be, old ladies gravitate to me and ask if I could get that jar off the top shelf for them. I don't mind helping, but they do babble on, and on, and on. Oh wait, that could be me in a few years just talking and talking...
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:41 PM (6Ll1u)

Yeah but the rich ones may marry you and then have stroke. It's a great way to make a living

Posted by: Kerry at July 07, 2016 06:43 PM (Ozsfq)

150 The friend who got adult onset seizures is a health-nut who is very skinny and into low-fat everything, by the way. Except for pizza - he loves pizza.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:43 PM (7lVbc)

151 Animal husbandry.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza at July 07, 2016 06:44 PM (roFmD)

152 Heh. I hated running even when I was a kid, unless I was playing floor hockey. We Guineas have no damn wind to begin with, plus I just really hate running. Or jogging.

But I hike. I live to hike. It keeps me sane. Point is, get out and do SOMEthing. Run, jog, walk, hike, bike, unicycle...there's something for everyone. Whatever fits your style.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 06:44 PM (WlGX+)

153 Brattleboro is calling on Presdent Obama to help us with the TB problem brought on by the Bush policies. Bush lied when he told us that these people were clean and free of disease. Bush did this because we are calling for his arrest !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at July 07, 2016 06:44 PM (NuElX)

154 What I don't get is that English 4:00 tea. There's an extra meal right there and it is full of sandwiches, cakes, tarts.
After that dinner, say fish and chips. How do they get away with that kind of eating that's what I want to know.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 07, 2016 06:45 PM (CFc5L)

155
Animal husbandry.
Posted by: Andrew Mendoza


It's on my bucket list, too.

Posted by: Dan Savage at July 07, 2016 06:45 PM (IqV8l)

156 I used to be way overweight and could never lose the weight with exercise, would make me eat even more actually. About 7 years ago I just set myself to do a strict ultra low cal diet and stuck to it for a few months and lost over 50 lbs. That said, what little I ate consisted almost entirely of protein because it sates your hunger far better than carbs and for me to eat next to nothing for a few months, I needed all the help I could get.

I've managed to keep most of the weight off since with regular distance running and other moderate exercise, and even went back to the diet earlier this year to drop 30 lbs and win the office pool. (Really only wanted to lose 20 but this other skinny bastard was on my heels the whole way and really made me earn it.)

Posted by: mugiwara at July 07, 2016 06:47 PM (+6CDe)

157 I have taken Aces idea to go for bike rides, just for exercise and getting out.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 06:47 PM (Yo9Lf)

158 Cut the carbs, stay under 2,000 calories a day, exercise to burn off about 400 per day (walking works for me), sugar and booze in very limited amounts. Hard in the beginning, easy now.

That exactly worked for me in my thirties. But Around the 38 year mark I moved to an area that had a long commute which cut exercise out and I started eating junk. So I very slowly gained weight about 10 pounds a year. So at 45 I decided I'd just do what I did in my thirties and .. nothing. I tried for a whole year and my weight wouldn't budge. A little weight loss at first which I thought would continue but then plateau followed by gradual increase.

Intermediate fasting is the first thing that has worked in my forties and I've lost about 5-6 lbs/month for four months.

Posted by: bananaDream at July 07, 2016 06:48 PM (R9XV4)

159 So ace has been fasting for the past month? You see, even he must confess to the wisdom of the Muslim religion. Hope you had a happy Eid al-Fitr, ace.

Posted by: Ahmed Mohammed at July 07, 2016 06:48 PM (roFmD)

160 Much as you might think he's crazy (protip: he's not), Denninger has been hammering on this for forever.

Maybe not the fasting bit, but definitely the LCHF diet.

Posted by: Jabari at July 07, 2016 06:50 PM (VJbsF)

161 In future, fasting will be compulsory.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, Holodor Kommisar at July 07, 2016 06:50 PM (RIKJa)

162 Why aren't there any female dieticians among those you've posted? You need to fix that.

Posted by: AoS Diversity Officer at July 07, 2016 06:50 PM (roFmD)

163 Apparently Bill O'Reilly is running a big expose on Obama's Muslim sympathies, just as the White House door is about to hit Obama's skinny ass.

Suppose this means he'll be on Clinton Cash Corruption in 2024.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 07, 2016 06:50 PM (r1fLd)

164 Somehow this fuck Fredo is talking gun control with these 2 police shootings?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:51 PM (Ozsfq)

165 >>>Anyway, if the fat is going to start up on you too,
it'll likely start anytime in the next few years. If it does it's going
to bug you to death.


Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:42 PM (bGLSw)<<<

Meh. I figure keeping weight off won't be a problem over the next few years after we're all in Cankles' Camps. So... no worries.

Posted by: a miniature Moron (but not AtC tiny) at July 07, 2016 06:51 PM (H9MG5)

166 What about the Hot Pocket diet?

Look at me, kinda overweight? Looking to put on some useless pounds and become obese?

The Hot Pocket diet.

Hot pockets!

Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at July 07, 2016 06:52 PM (RFeQD)

167 They're not cankles. They're thigh ankles.

Thankles.

Posted by: doomed at July 07, 2016 06:53 PM (bGLSw)

168 >>Somehow this fuck Fredo is talking gun control with these 2 police shootings?

More like BLM and cops shooting black people.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2016 06:53 PM (/tuJf)

169 >>>Being tall is not all it is cracked up to be, old ladies gravitate to me
and ask if I could get that jar off the top shelf for them. I don't
mind helping, but they do babble on, and on, and on. Oh wait, that could
be me in a few years just talking and talking...

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:41 PM (6Ll1u)<<<




So you're black too? Cause I really hate when those racists try to get me to serve them like that. The nerve!!!

Posted by: Moochelle Obama at July 07, 2016 06:54 PM (H9MG5)

170 Btw I don't think super skinny is attractive or healthy.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:54 PM (7lVbc)

171 Boy this Fuck Fredo doesn't wait a day to stick his skinny fuckin ass into a situation he still has NO idea about. I wonder if this fuck has said anything about the AMERICAN 13 years old killed in her bed in Israel yet? Yeah I know the answer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:55 PM (Ozsfq)

172 How bout the eat 4-5 smaller meals a day plan, seems to me that would go a long way to keep you satisfied, and not cheat so much with the "bad" food. But no plan should exclude your favorite some time, that's just stupid right there.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:55 PM (6Ll1u)

173 Animal husbandry.
Posted by: Andrew Mendoza

It's on my bucket list, too.
Posted by: Dan Savage"

Neigh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (C9pBZ)

174 In my experience, fasting can have unexpected consequences. I have done Fasting Fridays for years, so fasting is not a problem.
When the wife and kids went vegetarian I didn't eat much of it because it was not tasty food. Without trying to, 25 pounds was lost in a few months. That was a good thing.
Using My Fitness Pal to track food it became apparent there were days I was only getting 4-500 calories.
Worst, if you get most of your fluids while eating, smal meals mean not much fluid intake. You can become dehydrated and mental function becomes impaired.
This is not to discourage anybody from fasting. It is to encourage you to make sure you still get enough calories and fluid. Oddly enough, after you've put your body in starvation mode for too long, you stop getting hungry. At least that's been my experience. That, and a hospital visit because the wife thought my brain fuzziness was a stroke. Horde, fast when you want to, then eat well and drink your wine with a merry heart.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (6DAcz)

175 157 I have taken Aces idea to go for bike rides, just for exercise and getting out.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 06:47 PM (Yo9Lf)

My wife just got back from a wedding and I put a ton of pictures (these are BIG bytes). A few of them show a certain brother-in-law who's beginning to make Chris Crispy look underweight.

She said everyone (all the females) told the guy's wife to quit cooking so much. Especially rich foods.

I told her that wouldn't work.

She asked why, and I said he needed to stop eating so much. That always works.

Me? I'm 68 years old, 5' 11" tall, and weigh 167 pounds.
I spend a LOT of time outdoors and don't eat if I'm not hungry.

Posted by: jwb7605 at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (DofIg)

176 >>>I wonder if this fuck has said anything about the AMERICAN 13 years old killed in her bed in Israel yet? Yeah I know the answer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:55 PM (Ozsfq)<<<

Her? Has he ever mentioned me?

Posted by: ghost of Kate Steinle at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (H9MG5)

177 As with most things in this field there's research to cut both ways. For example after just a few hrs of not eating, your body will increase cortisol levels (stress hormone) and enter starvation mode where it wants to preserve energy and save fat. That's behind the idea of eating 6 small meals in a day spaced every 2-3 hrs, which I have done before to good success. That keeps your blood sugar steady all day long. It makes sense considering for 10s of thousands of years calorie scarcity was the problem, not excess. Fasting was just unintentionally part of life and the body responds with mechanisms to save fat and energy when there's nothing coming in

I lost 30lbs in 3 months to get in best shape of my life using 6 meals a day, lifting 3x a week and cardio 2x a week. Then I got lazy and fat again but in last 7 months I dropped 25 so far l, but eating 3 regular meals a day though much cleaner

Posted by: mst3k at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (6AldU)

178 Obama up at 1 am in Poland, yammering and stammering like true genius.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (ggrt+)

179 Now he is making shit up again or taking shit out of context. Black lives more prone to incidents like this? Hey fuck face what about most blacks are killed by other blacks and NOT cops. You fuckin race baiter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:57 PM (Ozsfq)

180 Ok, caprese salad for dinner(tomatoes, fresh mozzarella, fresh basil, evoo, balsamic vinegar, s&p) and a piece of skin on chicken for dinner.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 06:57 PM (xVgrA)

181 Her? Has he ever mentioned me?
Posted by: ghost of Kate Steinle at July 07, 2016 06:56 PM (H9MG5)

Nope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:57 PM (Ozsfq)

182 Went low-carb a couple of years ago and lost 45 pounds in 5 months. Eat meat and leafies until you're full then stop. Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at July 07, 2016 06:57 PM (J8/9G)

183 I plan on increasing my Winona consumption combined with intermittent masturbation. I am not sure if this is for health or weight reasons yet. Let me test it for say the next 30 minutes and report back.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (MNZJR)

184 It's 1 AM in Warsaw, has your President called you a Racist yet?

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (ggrt+)

185 172 How bout the eat 4-5 smaller meals a day plan, seems to me that would go a long way to keep you satisfied, and not cheat so much with the "bad" food. But no plan should exclude your favorite some time, that's just stupid right there.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 06:55 PM (6Ll1u)

According to Dr Fung, I think, that keeps your insulin steady. Which is bad for those of us whose insulin level is set too high.
Not eating carbs for the fasting period uses up al the insulin in the blood and forces a reset to a lower level.
I probably mangled that explanation.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (7lVbc)

186 The JEF is once again doing his level best to stir up racial animus. Seeing him on tv makes me lose my appetite. See, on topic.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)

187 The lines are already forming at 6pm Central for tomorrow night's Mega Millions drawing.

The jackpot is now estimated to be $380 million cash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (iyMaw)

188 Hey fuck face what was an asshole with a rap sheet a mile long doing with an illegal gun?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (Ozsfq)

189 I started LCHF 4 yrs ago. So far I'm down 145 pounds, no longer need blood pressure meds, am no longer pre-diabetic and all my health markers (HDL, triglycerides, A1c, ect.) are now amazing. I started intermittent fasting over a year ago after watching Jason Fung's videos. I love it.

Posted by: Dot at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (2yAFK)

190 The JEF is once again doing his level best to stir up racial animus. Seeing him on tv makes me lose my appetite. See, on topic.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)

maybe that is why I am losing weight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (Ozsfq)

191 Barky just told us "We can do better."

What's this "we" crap, fucker?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (1ZOkK)

192 125: @jaimo -- check out Fung's videos/book: He talks about "Dr. Bernstein's Diabetic Solution". It's supposed to work for TYPE 1.

I haven't checked it out but I got a diabetic kid so it's on the list.

Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (7zeA4)

193 I plan on increasing my Winona consumption combined with intermittent masturbation.

This will entail both mild cardio and loss of essence.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (rwI+c)

194 >>Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (Ozsfq)


That poor bastard in Minnesota had a CCW, apparently.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (ggrt+)

195 Hot pockets.

http://tinyurl.com/c7q8u6o

A culinary delight. Sure to help weight loss, because it will give you diarhea and possibly kill you.

Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at July 07, 2016 06:59 PM (RFeQD)

196 More like BLM and cops shooting black people."

So let me get this straight - assigning blame to an entire group, such as the adherents of Mohammed - to an event such as the massacre of Americans by one such in Florida is "BAD",

but demonizing all the folks in blue, wanting to assign some sort of "blame" on PDs everywhere due to a single event is "OK"...

Sure. Pull the other one.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (C9pBZ)

197 blacks shot twice as much as whites? I'd like to see those stats but if they are , they are shot by other blacks you dumb SOB

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (Ozsfq)

198 I've practiced the "Warrior diet" for years without knowing it. Not every day of course, but it's perfectly normal for me to wake up, drink coffee until about 11, eat "Linner" about 2 or 3 pm (Linner is my only meal, usually a normal sized lunch or dinner), then drink a few beers before going to bed. Occasional snacking on peanuts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (2cS/G)

199 Obama: Healing race relations since 2009

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (1ZOkK)

200 i needed to lose weight to lower my BP. I gained a bunch when i hurt my back and was practically immobile for 6 months. It was miseraable.


i have been doing this kind of regime and i have lost 17 lbs. i eat what the kid calls "protein bombs," of Turkey or chicken and cheese. then i eat raw veggies and drink a lot of unsweet tea. on top of this i take the larger doses of Muscle Pharm Armor V vitamins. And Branch Chain Amino Acids, with biotin tablets as well. This really turbo boosted the weight loss and i feel so much more energy its crazy.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at July 07, 2016 07:01 PM (YhV5r)

201 Deny Winona your essence.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:01 PM (qUNWi)

202 Oh, this is just Ace's sneaky way to get us all to celebrate Ramadan. Clever. "Intermittent fasting!"

Posted by: Smallish Bees at July 07, 2016 07:01 PM (yjhOG)

203 Re: Cruz info on the sidebar, and in particular this tweet from Amanda Carpenter: http://bit.ly/29makMv

Cruz will endorse AT the convention. It is going to be the TV spectacle of all TV spectacles. Bigtime inflection point in the campaign, either good, as I expect, or bad, if the Sorosites get their way and nevertrumpers pitch their fit.

But that meeting between Trump and Cruz was not to establish a speaking slot.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (wOKJp)

204 Hey, you guys are pretty white. Where am I, Poland? You guys aren't gonna shoot me are you?

Posted by: Barry at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (5xDis)

205 ****Looks around****

Hmmmm
This place needs more Sarah Palin
With a dash of Jay fucking Cutler

Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (3Oe6N)

206 Ace,

I've been doing IF for a few months now and it works perfect for me. Also going full Keto as an u/g from Paleo. Do Rippetoe's Starting Strength with an overlay of the 5-3-1 program. You may also want to consider incorporating Resistant Starch in to your diet regime. I'm 68yo and have never been in better health; I'm on no meds except a daily children's aspirin for heart health. My wife tells me that I don't look a day over 50.

PS to Cactus of Liberty: Drop the cardio as recent studies have shown that the health benefits aren't there. Starting Strength plus 5-3-1 programming (starting with very light weights) and long walks and/or hikes w/weighted vest should do the trick for you.

My resource sites:
roguehealthandfitness.com
freetheanimal.com/2013/12/resistant-primer-newbies.html

Note: the above is purely my personal opinion on what has worked and continues to work for me. Your results may vary.

Posted by: Jake at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (+KNhD)

207 I've practiced the "Warrior diet" for years without knowing it. Not every day of course, but it's perfectly normal for me to wake up, drink coffee until about 11, eat "Linner" about 2 or 3 pm (Linner is my only meal, usually a normal sized lunch or dinner), then drink a few beers before going to bed. Occasional snacking on peanuts.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (2cS/G)


Yup. for me: Conference call tonight AGAIN
Off to bed since I have to be up at 2AM and off to VA about a 3 or 4 Cappachino Drive. And the next 3 days are about the same. probably one real meal each day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:03 PM (Ozsfq)

208 I got 15 seconds into the twins vid before becoming so irritated with them I stopped watching.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V. (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege) at July 07, 2016 07:03 PM (P8951)

209 Dr. Sum Yung Gui told me years ago that the ancient Chinese secret to stay in shape is to eat less and move your fat ass around more. He said his best customers were the Kim family in North Korea and a few Cambodian exchange students back in the late 1940s.

You never see any fat North Koreans or Khmer Rouge running around now do you?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 07:03 PM (ej1L0)

210 Wow, with the new Ramadan "intermittent" fasting, I'm already feeling more spiritual--by which I mean, of course, homicidal.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at July 07, 2016 07:03 PM (yjhOG)

211 Thanks for this Ace. I lost 50 pounds on Atkins then plateaued, gained a bunch back and went back on yesterday. I think I'm going to try the fasting now off and on and see if it helps.

A couple of questions.
1) What are you doing to get through the plateau?

2) Did you swear off artificial sweeteners & coffee like Atkins says too? I didn't and wonder if that's been a stumbling block for me.

3) Do you see intermittent fasting as a rest-of-your-life thing or just until you reach your goal weight?

Posted by: 29Victor at July 07, 2016 07:04 PM (Koq2Z)

212 So I said to the Poles, hey where are YOUR million muslim immigrants? What are you guys, racist? Nice country you got there. Be a shame if Putin blew you up or Merkel needed a little Lebensraum.

Posted by: Barry at July 07, 2016 07:04 PM (5xDis)

213 >>>With a dash of Jay fucking Cutler

Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (3Oe6N)<<<

'Cause if anybody knows how to lose stuff, it's Cutler.

Posted by: you really teed that one up at July 07, 2016 07:05 PM (H9MG5)

214 209. You never see any fat North Koreans or Khmer Rouge running around now do you?

They burn it all off catching dogs for dinner

Posted by: Navycopjoe at July 07, 2016 07:05 PM (3Oe6N)

215 198
I've practiced the "Warrior diet" for years without knowing it. Not
every day of course, but it's perfectly normal for me to wake up, drink
coffee until about 11, eat "Linner" about 2 or 3 pm (Linner is my only
meal, usually a normal sized lunch or dinner), then drink a few beers
before going to bed. Occasional snacking on peanuts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 07, 2016 07:00 PM (2cS/G)

Im laughing. Must be something about the horses but you just described my normal routine. I had to change that when i decided to lose weight and break it up from 11 to 8 or 9 i eat the protiens and veggies for the day broken up into 5 or six little snacks. works great. im never hungry. Coffee for the WIN! but after 11 i switch to tea and water. i do a LOT of stuff taking care of eight horses. so its not even like i really have to focus on exercise.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at July 07, 2016 07:06 PM (YhV5r)

216 Another interesting topic related to low-carbohydrate diets is inflammation. In particular, the role of chronic inflammation in many diseases, and inflammatory vs. anti-inflammatory diet (where high carb foods, among others, are typically inflammatory). If inflammation catches your attention, you may end up replacing vegetable oils with animal fats in your diet.

Posted by: zincfinger at July 07, 2016 07:07 PM (dwCy9)

217 208
I got 15 seconds into the twins vid before becoming so irritated with them I stopped watching.

Posted by: DonnaV. (a white) (whitely
brandishing ampersand privilege) at July 07, 2016 07:03 PM (P8951)


try watching Elliot Hulse's Strength Camp or Yo Elliot videos. Not annoying. hes got a good head on his shoulders and could be one of us.

Posted by: Gushka can haz kittys what plays fetch! at July 07, 2016 07:08 PM (YhV5r)

218
The JEF is once again doing his level best to stir up racial animus. Seeing him on tv makes me lose my appetite. See, on topic.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)
----------------------

I've stopped watching t.v. news -- even my beloved Bret Baier -- and I hurl myself on the mute button when Rush or Laura Ingraham play clips of any of the puke-voices (Hillary, Obama, Comey). I've lost 13 pounds and my brain has evolved beyond Homo sapiens sapiens to a new species. I'm not sure what to call myself yet.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:10 PM (5o5ek)

219 I lost 40 pounds in six months:

1) 6 days a week eat all you want but limit carbs. to beans.
2) 1 day a week, eat all the carbs you want.
3) No white food.
4) Cold showers.
5) Eat a lot of nuts. No fruit.
6) Weigh you self every morning, and write it down.
7) 1 glass of red win a night.

Stupidly simple to follow. never hungry. never sorry. Got to a good weight, then I stayed there. Three years now.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at July 07, 2016 07:10 PM (mBzJW)

220 Graduated at 17.. 6'2"-150
Joined Army at 19.. 6'3"-162
Retired at 58.. 6'4".. 190


I went from skinny to thin over time with out even trying

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 07:11 PM (6Ll1u)

221 Another site people might be interested in is Mark Sisson's marksdailyapple.com. Some of you might recognize him as the nutritional supplement guy on P90X videos. His current site is a pretty good paleo presentation.

Posted by: zincfinger at July 07, 2016 07:11 PM (dwCy9)

222 What's all this about Winona?

Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 07:12 PM (7zeA4)

223 From middle of January2015 to now I have lost 87 pounds doing fasting. I also walk 60-90 minutes a day. I walk 4-6 times a week. I also walk 15 minute or so miles. I eat nothing after eight till middle of the next day. I also fast 4-6 days a month. A total fast with water and a little bit of fruit juice. Being 57 I do take a vitamin supplement every day. With family or friends I will have dinner, rarely. I do enjoy a bourbon almost everyday or one or two beers. I went from 282 to 193. I didn't start the walking till the third month and it took several more months to get to the 15 minute mile. I also eat anything I want when I do eat. Love my taquerias burritos and have pizza once a week with my grandson.

Posted by: I4cu2 at July 07, 2016 07:13 PM (3eZPt)

224 Muslims invented intermittent wfasting. See Ramadan.

Posted by: Ahmed Mohammed at July 07, 2016 07:13 PM (roFmD)

225 Eat right. Exercise. Die anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:14 PM (0mRoj)

226 Has Presdent Obama made any comments about Hilllary Cliton and what the FBI has said ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at July 07, 2016 07:14 PM (NuElX)

227 Muslims invented intermittent wfasting. See Ramadan.
Posted by: Ahmed Mohammed

It was Russian that inwented fasting. Everyone knows this.

Posted by: Pavel Chekov at July 07, 2016 07:15 PM (lDrRt)

228 The Japanese have got this right.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/238050/

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:15 PM (B48dK)

229 160 Much as you might think he's crazy (protip: he's not), Denninger has been hammering on this for forever.

Maybe not the fasting bit, but definitely the LCHF diet.
Posted by: Jabari at July 07, 2016 06:50 PM (VJbsF)



He certainly has. Speaking of which, it appears that the Market Ticker has gone dark.

Literally.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231470

That post appeared on Tuesday after Comey's announcement, and the background soon turned light gray and slooowly grew darker over the next two days.

So far the site is still up and people are still posting comments. You can read the post and comments by highlighting them.

For some time Karl has been saying that he would quit blogging when he determined that the situation was beyond recovery. He appears to have made that determination.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:15 PM (sdi6R)

230 I've lost about 40 lbs. using IF and dropping sugar. Not carbs, completely, just sugar. No breakfast, no lunch, protein and fat for dinner, lots of water, and fasting. Four belt notches so far, and I'm not hungry or as tired. I actually feel better.

Posted by: grognard at July 07, 2016 07:15 PM (84WkV)

231 Eat shit and LIVE!

Posted by: NutriScat corp at July 07, 2016 07:15 PM (roFmD)

232 Great post, Ace. Dr. Fung's video was very interesting and informative. I had never heard of any of these people, though I have heard of intermittent fasting. Up until middle age, I was a breakfast skipper and often ate only one meal a day. Then for some stupid reason I started believing that wasn't a healthy way to live and fell for the "healthy eating" scam. I am now 15 pounds overweight and can't seem to lose it. I'm goin' back to intermittent fasting.

Posted by: Mary at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (2ly7u)

233 I've worked in the woods all my life as a timber faller (tree cutter), almost 50 years. I've never seen an overweight logger unless they were a machine operator. Most are the slim, wiry type, no huge muscle guys, too clumsy and not cat quick on the reflexes.

Anyway, the Federal government had a study in WW2 to determine calories used on the job because of rationing and essential war industries. They determined 10,00 calories a day for the average logger. Can't find the study now, but I did find one from the University of Washington that says, 8,000 calories a day, 8-12 per minute. Pretty much unchanged today. Maybe TrigglyPuff should apply for a job.

Posted by: JHW at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (kn0BL)

234 >>>What's all this about Winona?
Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 07:12 PM (7zeA4)<<<



I don't know, but I have t' say if people aren't gonna be respectful about my ex-wife, and mother of my child, Imma feel awful justified to start shootin'.

Posted by: Raylan Givens at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (H9MG5)

235 Bigtime inflection point in the campaign, either good, as I expect, or bad, if the Sorosites get their way and nevertrumpers pitch their fit.

But that meeting between Trump and Cruz was not to establish a speaking slot.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 07, 2016 07:02 PM (wOKJp)
=======

Why doesnt it surprise me that the nevertrumpbots are in league with soros, whether knowingly or unknowingly.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (iQIUe)

236 4) Cold showers.

--

?

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (7lVbc)

237 219
3) No white food.
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at July 07, 2016 07:10 PM (mBzJW)


Word!

Posted by: BLM at July 07, 2016 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

238 Or I may just get one of those "grow your own" logs.

When the moment's right, see Alice.

Posted by: BIG Pharma at July 07, 2016 07:17 PM (QMphW)

239 So - what can you eat while this fasting is going on?

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:17 PM (Sfs6o)

240 A high carb diet consisting mainly of sawdust and corn cob works very well. It, called the Andersonville diet. A side treatment of cholera
also helps.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 07, 2016 07:18 PM (27WlQ)

241 Eat better - Move more - LIVE BETTER.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:18 PM (WlGX+)

242 227 Yes,that was what Stalin was doing in the 30's,helping the Ukrainians lose weight.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:18 PM (B48dK)

243
But regarding dieting.

What can I say? I've never had a problem with weight because of good genes and good habits.

Grandmother is 90 and eats whatEVER she wants. You go to her house for a meal and you get butter, bacon, eggs, wine, beer, sour cream, tortillas, burgers, pasta, cheese, something breaded and pan-fried, whatever strikes her palate. The woman is not only trim, she's FIT. She's on top of it like you wouldn't believe. I kid you not, every time she goes for a checkup the medical personnel who have seen everything think there's a mistake on her chart where her DOB is listed. She has never dieted in her life.

Here's the other thing: fat is SATISFYING. You crave it if you don't get it. Your body is telling you to load up on the stuff that makes your hair shiny and your skin smooth and your belly happy.

I think we overthink a lot of this.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:19 PM (5o5ek)

244 OT and non -Winona: I have seen 2 license plates in my area that I am not sure what to make of: BNGZI and BNGHZI. I can't think of anything other than Benghazi but this is lib area.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 07:19 PM (MNZJR)

245 In Brattleboro we will not eat anything with a face! That way the animals have a good life too !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at July 07, 2016 07:20 PM (NuElX)

246 On our way out to dinner....just got this Fox News alert:

The State Department tells the Associated Press it is reopening an
internal investigation into whether Democratic presidential candidate
Hillary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information. The
Justice Department declined Wednesday to indict Clinton over her use of a
private email account and so-called 'homebrew' server following an FBI
investigation. Complete coverage on Fox News Channel and FoxNews.com.



WTH?!

Posted by: Tami at July 07, 2016 07:20 PM (Enq6K)

247 Can I eat while fasting if I don't have any criminal intent to eat?

Posted by: 29Victor at July 07, 2016 07:20 PM (Koq2Z)

248 Moooooooooooo

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at July 07, 2016 07:20 PM (8ZskC)

249 239 So - what can you eat while this fasting is going on?
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:17 PM (Sfs6o)

Butter coffee

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (7lVbc)

250 Ketchup on a hot dog is bad????

Yes I'm running a little behind.

Posted by: Blano at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (NEX5e)

251 227 Yes,that was what Stalin was doing in the 30's,helping the Ukrainians lose weight.
Posted by: steevy

I've lost 100 pounds and 3 children with SovietSystem! Thanks Comrade Stalin!

Posted by: Ukrainian Peasant at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (lDrRt)

252 222 What's all this about Winona?
Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 07:12 PM (7zeA4)

She's got herself a big brown beaver.

Posted by: Les Claypool at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (0mRoj)

253 Yes! I intended to fast and had no intention of eating an entire sleeve of thin mints!

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:22 PM (Sfs6o)

254 What's all this about Wynona?

And her Big Brown Beaver? We sang about that in 1995.

Posted by: Primus at July 07, 2016 07:22 PM (QMphW)

255 What's all this about eating fast to lose weight?

Posted by: Emily Litella at July 07, 2016 07:22 PM (8ZskC)

256 236: @votermom -- Cold is supposed to stimulate a lot of good things, weight loss wise. Brown fat. Testosterone. Etc.

And the body having to heat itself can burn significant calories, though probably not just from a single shower.

Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 07:23 PM (7zeA4)

257 Calories out cannot be tracked. People can get strong and thin, or weak and fat, and calorie counts are a chemical explanation that doesn't predict and isn't actionable. People need to know what they will do with the numbers they're asking for, beyond tracking small changes. Fat percentages and scale weight as well.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 07, 2016 07:23 PM (q6C1L)

258 249 how about regular black coffee. No sugar or anything.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:23 PM (Sfs6o)

259 The Happy Fun Camps Diet:

Dandelions
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Squirrel (with Squirrel Helper on Fridays)
Roadkill du Jour
Those Mushrooms Over There That Are Probably Not Poisonous
Pinecones with Crabapplesauce
Kale

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:23 PM (WlGX+)

260 State Department will open and investigation into Hillary and find.....she's squeaky clean. What a surprise!! /sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2016 07:24 PM (frf5f)

261 The State Department tells the Associated Press it is reopening an

internal investigation into whether Democratic presidential candidate

Hillary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information. The

Justice Department declined Wednesday to indict Clinton over her use of a

private email account and so-called 'homebrew' server following an FBI

investigation. Complete coverage on Fox News Channel and FoxNews.com.




WTH?!


Posted by: Tami at July 07, 2016 07:20 PM (Enq6K)

Hill needs more exoneration.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 07:24 PM (P/kVC)

262 3 Hrs Ago, Judicial Watch:

"Surprise, surprise -- one of the suspects arrested in connection with last wee's terrorist attacks in Turkey spent time at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba."

http://tinyurl.com/hexupfe

Lean Forward.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:24 PM (6gk0M)

263 That sounds like a hashtag, what can you eat while fasting? Printer paper from the shredder? Or if you adhere to Islam, goat Dick.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 07:24 PM (6Ll1u)

264 How about I just say fuck it and die happy a couple of years early?

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)

265 258 249 how about regular black coffee. No sugar or anything.
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:23 PM (Sfs6o)

I think that's ok.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:25 PM (7lVbc)

266 Is it recommended if you have cardiovascular issues?

Posted by: Bayou at July 07, 2016 07:25 PM (j6gS5)

267
The State Department tells the Associated Press it is reopening an
internal investigation into whether Democratic presidential candidate
Hillary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information. The
Justice Department declined Wednesday to indict Clinton over her use of a
private email account and so-called 'homebrew' server following an FBI
investigation. Complete coverage on Fox News Channel and FoxNews.com.
----------------------

Bride of Comey.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:26 PM (5o5ek)

268 Ketchup on a hot dog is bad????

Yes I'm running a little behind.
Posted by: Blano at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (NEX5e)

****

Just ketchup is good. Add onions and relish and it is as God intended.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 07:26 PM (KcI5m)

269 And mustard. Mustard on hotdogs.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:27 PM (Sfs6o)

270 265 I think I heard on most diets coffee and tea are unlimited.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:27 PM (Sfs6o)

271 I keep the robutt on a strict WD40 diet and Dr. Smith greases his differential on occasion.

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (ruxTZ)

272 Where's Cackling Hillary to tell us food shortages like Venezuela will make America lean and great again?

Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (oia+s)

273 Working when I wrestled.

Completely opposite from all the published diabetes stuff. My blood sugar actually goes up after about 8-10 hours without eating, as the body starts burning fat reserves that have higher sugar content then the normal protein heavy meals.

Skip breakfast or dinner, skipping dinner would seem to make more sense.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (Doh4+)

274
State Department will open and investigation into Hillary and find.....she's squeaky clean. What a surprise!! /sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2016 07:24 PM (frf5f)
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Fenelon, as long as you're here, I just want to say you are a sweetie and I'm so glad to read your posts every day.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (5o5ek)

275 I read the headline as "Intermittent Farting Post".

Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (G2Sc9)

276 "Just ketchup is good. Add onions and relish and it is as God intended."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 07:26 PM (KcI5m)

I add Cleveland Stadium Mustard -or- Bertman's Ballpark Mustard, so as not to be a Local Heathen.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:29 PM (6gk0M)

277
Where's Cackling Hillary to tell us food shortages like Venezuela will make America lean and great again?
Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2016 07:28 PM (oia+s)
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No kidding. Toilet paper is fattening.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:29 PM (5o5ek)

278 250 Ketchup on a hot dog is bad????
Posted by: Blano at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (NEX5e)


It's downright un-American.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

279 Win! Own a Ryder.

Posted by: NutriScat corp at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (0dXaM)

280 Roadkill is too gamey.

Even horseradish doesn't cut through that rotty aftertaste.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (qUNWi)

281 I'm on the mustard side of the ketchup - mustard wars

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (7lVbc)

282 I add Cleveland Stadium Mustard -or- Bertman's Ballpark Mustard, so as not to be a Local Heathen.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:29 PM (6gk0M)

****
I'm from Chicago, and eat them minus mustard. I have condiment privelege.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (KcI5m)

283 Ketchup on a hot dog is bad????
Posted by: Blano at July 07, 2016 07:21 PM (NEX5e)

Pretty much

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (Ozsfq)

284 Not a fan of Guldens (I think it is). Gives me indigestion. Other spicy mustards are no problemo.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)

285 "It's downright un-American."
-Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

You're fired!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:31 PM (6gk0M)

286 Hot dog mustard and sauerkraut

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:31 PM (Ozsfq)

287 Of course a chill cheese dog is pretty good also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (Ozsfq)

288 The State Department tells the Associated Press it is reopening an internal investigation into whether Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information. This phase of the investigation will focus on Jason Chaffetz, Trey Gowdy and other Republican congressmen as to whether they mishandled classified information they were privy to by virtue of their congressional oversight responsibilities of the State Department and Secretary Clinton. A State Department official speaking on background suggested that a referral to the Justice Department for prosecution is likely.

Posted by: We're back in the USSR - You don't know how lucky you are, boy at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (5xDis)

289 Roadkill is too gamey.

Even horseradish doesn't cut through that rotty aftertaste.
Posted by: eleven

You have to marinate it in a puddle first.

Posted by: S. Baldrick at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (lDrRt)

290 It's downright un-American.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

*****

Burn the Heretic!!!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)

291 I sometimes dip French fries in yellow mustard.
There. I've said it.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (Sfs6o)

292 Oh, here we go with the hot dog Wars again, grilled dog, mustard and onions, dill relish when needed. Maybe a jalapeno or two. But it better come with fries.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 07:33 PM (6Ll1u)

293 "Hot dog mustard and sauerkraut."
-Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:31 PM (Ozsfq)

I can dig that. Yellow or Stadium Mustard accepted with no reservations!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:33 PM (6gk0M)

294 @263 TinFoilBaby: There's a calorie limit to still be "fasting", the point being your body's restrictions. Diet sodas, for example, MIGHT screw up a fast because the body may produce a surprising amount of insulin in repsonse. But bone broth isn't a problem.

@266 Bayou: It should help cardiovascular issues; that's at least part of the point. But I'd do a lot of research on any particular condition first. Like, most people are fine salt, but some heart patients are not, as we've learned recently.

Posted by: moviegique at July 07, 2016 07:33 PM (7zeA4)

295 OT: Pretty mindblowing and yet self-evident charts explain where we are in politics today.


http://tinyurl.com/hph8heh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 07, 2016 07:34 PM (Nwg0u)

296 >>>> Hot dog mustard and sauerkraut
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 07:31 PM
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On a poppy seed bun. Perfect.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:34 PM (6IPEM)

297 If ketchup isn't available? I'm going to be fine. As long as I have mustard?

Everything's going to be okay.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:35 PM (6gk0M)

298 "Pro life Democrats" are a real thing?The Mario Cuomo type that is "personally against "it but otherwise as pro abortion as every other Democrat.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:35 PM (B48dK)

299 Ketchup on a hot dog?? Why? Who would do that?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (dFi94)

300 Ace, IMO you are completely on the wrong track if you are pursuing diet as a way to fix weight. Diet will not get it done. From my experience, muscle mass is where everything comes from. No, I'm not selling anything.

I'm 50. About 1.5 years ago I had hit around 220 (38" waist) and had HAD IT! I started walking, then dieting following the calorie counting approach. I added in intermittent fasting. That all got me down to 180 (36" waist).

Walking lead to running, and eventually I was pushing 10K runs when my knees said 'uncle'. So, this March I got a bike... the ability to get out on the bike for an hour, 2 hours, 3 hours, etc without hurting for days afterword was an enormous difference mentally. But, my weight (and waist size) stayed the same.

3 months ago, i started at a gym doing strength training. I also stopped drinking (ouch). Biking is getting easier and easier, and I'm setting new personal best times almost every other week. Interestingly, my weight has gone UP to 190, BUT, my waist is now down to 35 and still falling (not to mention my wife is very much enjoying the improving physique... just sayin).

I've noticed in the past few weeks that diet is now pretty much irrelevant. i can eat as much, or as little, as I please and the scale stays solid at 190.

Screw the diets. Get moving and adding muscle mass and you won't believe the difference in how you feel.

Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (D2q91)

301 Surprise, surprise -- one of the suspects arrested in connection with last wee's terrorist attacks in Turkey spent time at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

I went looking to see if anyone in Turkey had been protesting Gitmo, and lookie here some Turks had been.

The liberals:
http://tinyurl.com/z5p7k26

I don't want to hear ANYONE in Turkey complain.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (6FqZa)

302 And mustard. Mustard on hotdogs.


That goes without saying.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (rwI+c)

303 >>>> I sometimes dip French fries in yellow mustard.
There. I've said it.
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM
----
Okay, weirdo.
That sounds terrible. That said, mayo and ketchup mixed together isn't bad with fries, even a little bit good.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (6IPEM)

304 Intermittent fasting.
Ok. I'll give it a shot.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (08Znv)

305 Color me surprised that there are regional hot dog differences.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (6Ll1u)

306 I'd rather have mayo than ketchup.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (7lVbc)

307 >>That sounds terrible. That said, mayo and ketchup mixed together isn't bad with fries, even a little bit good.

Fries dipped in chipotle mayo. Like crack.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (/tuJf)

308 299 Ketchup on a hot dog?? Why? Who would do that?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (dFi94)

Because it tastes good. I've put ketchup on hot dogs since I was a little kid.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (0mRoj)

309 Forget ketchup on hotdogs, if you put anything in your coffee your ghey.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (kTF2Z)

310 "Pro life Democrats" are a real thing?The Mario
Cuomo type that is "personally against "it but otherwise as pro abortion
as every other Democrat.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:35 PM (B48dK)
========================================

I have principles, which I intend to leave at home, locked in a small room with no windows.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (dFi94)

311 Ketchup on a hot dog?? Why? Who would do that?

I would and I offer no apologies.


just a tinch, mind you.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (qUNWi)

312 I like the kind of mustard that looks like it's just crushed seeds in oil. Like Zattarrans (sp?)

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (rwI+c)

313
Wait, I've had the "Butter Makes Your Pants Fall Off" guy droning in another tab and he says no carbs -- no potatoes or bread.

What are you going to put the butter on?

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (5o5ek)

314 Winona Ryder!

You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh what's becoming of me!

Posted by: Dio at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (q6C1L)

315 >>>> I'd rather have mayo than ketchup.
Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM
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Mayo on a hot dog? People do this??? Who told them that was allowed?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (6IPEM)

316 Because it tastes good. I've put ketchup on hot dogs since I was a little kid.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (0mRoj)
============================================

That just ain't right.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 07:39 PM (dFi94)

317 Help me get a tight handle on this hot dog controversy.

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at July 07, 2016 07:39 PM (8ZskC)

318 303 >>>> I sometimes dip French fries in yellow mustard.
There. I've said it.
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM
----
Okay, weirdo.
That sounds terrible. That said, mayo and ketchup mixed together isn't bad with fries, even a little bit good.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (6IPEM)
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Technically, it's more of a 'wipe' than a 'dip'.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:39 PM (Sfs6o)

319 300 Ace, IMO you are completely on the wrong track if you are pursuing diet as a way to fix weight. Diet will not get it done. From my experience, muscle mass is where everything comes from. No, I'm not selling anything.

I'm 50. About 1.5 years ago I had hit around 220 (38" waist) and had HAD IT! I started walking, then dieting following the calorie counting approach. I added in intermittent fasting. That all got me down to 180 (36" waist).

Walking lead to running, and eventually I was pushing 10K runs when my knees said 'uncle'. So, this March I got a bike... the ability to get out on the bike for an hour, 2 hours, 3 hours, etc without hurting for days afterword was an enormous difference mentally. But, my weight (and waist size) stayed the same.

3 months ago, i started at a gym doing strength training. I also stopped drinking (ouch). Biking is getting easier and easier, and I'm setting new personal best times almost every other week. Interestingly, my weight has gone UP to 190, BUT, my waist is now down to 35 and still falling (not to mention my wife is very much enjoying the improving physique... just sayin).

I've noticed in the past few weeks that diet is now pretty much irrelevant. i can eat as much, or as little, as I please and the scale stays solid at 190.

Screw the diets. Get moving and adding muscle mass and you won't believe the difference in how you feel.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (D2q91)

What exactly does a buff Ewok look like?

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 07, 2016 07:39 PM (hJrjt)

320 What are you going to put the butter on?

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:38 PM (5o5ek)


Kate Upton is what I'm hoping for.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (GUBah)

321
"What exactly does a buff Ewok look like?"

A small Wookie.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (B48dK)

322 What exactly does a buff Ewok look like?

Glossy coat, wet nose, bright reflective eyes with no pupils.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (rwI+c)

323 Because it tastes good. I've put ketchup on hot dogs since I was a little kid.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (0mRoj)



Where was that? Romania?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

324 My hot dog has mustard , mayo , sweet relish and onions.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (MNgU2)

325 256 236: @votermom -- Cold is supposed to stimulate a lot of good things, weight loss wise. Brown fat. Testosterone. Etc.

--
Um, so how about for wimmenz?

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (7lVbc)

326 In Soviet Russia, catsup you!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (rwI+c)

327 "Ketchup on a hot dog?? Why? Who would do that?"
-Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 07:36 PM (dFi94)

I grew up on fried bologna sammiches. They were always served with ketchup. Hot dogs are slimmed-down bologna sausages.

Even through my aversion to vinegar continues to persevere, I still enjoy ketchup.

I cannot stand "leftover" ketchup if it sits on a counter top because I cannot stand the vinegar smell.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (6gk0M)

328 Been low carb and IF for over 3 years, 54 with 5 percent body fat

Posted by: Jeffrey at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (xceao)

329 Where was that? Romania?


Daggers at noonish!

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (qUNWi)

330 291 I sometimes dip French fries in yellow mustard.
There. I've said it.
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:32 PM (Sfs6o)


I can't even.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (sdi6R)

331 One time, I put ketchup only on a hotdog and it was good, but I felt like somebody had touched my no-no places.

Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2016 07:41 PM (oia+s)

332 I remember a bodybuilding magazine I used to read many years ago talking a diet alternating over feeding and under feeding.
I have no idea how well it worked.

I've had success losing weight on a ketogenic diet. But I didn't really feel well on it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 07, 2016 07:42 PM (hJrjt)

333 I love most sausages, bolognas and pressed mystery meats. I loath Vienna Sausages.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:42 PM (rwI+c)

334 Wino? Nah.

I drink the harder stuff. **hic**

Posted by: Cankles Clinton! at July 07, 2016 07:42 PM (H9MG5)

335 Hey, where do I fit into all of this?

Posted by: Tarter Sauce at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (8ZskC)

336
appx. 15% of my body weight is vinegar.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (qUNWi)

337 "Where was that? Romania?"
-Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

I'm German and Slovak-Jew. While I now understand why my left hand leads my right hand into the shower, I still don't understand the Hitler-like aversion to ketchup.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (6gk0M)

338 Been low carb and IF for over 3 years, 54 with 5 percent body fat


What were you before? Besides 51, I mean.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (rwI+c)

339 I use vinegar on my fried chicken now after mistakenly using it at a combo fried chicken / fish and chips restaurant when I was a kid. Didn't know it was for the 'chips'.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (MNgU2)

340 323 Because it tastes good. I've put ketchup on hot dogs since I was a little kid.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:37 PM (0mRoj)


Where was that? Romania?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

Florida. I don't know why people get so silly about hot dog condiments. I know there are regional norms about this that people put an odd amount of self-identity in, but ultimately who gives a shit what condiments people put on their hot dogs or any other good for that matter?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (0mRoj)

341 Tartar sauce is yummy on fish that's been fried til it isn't fish anymore.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (qUNWi)

342 The police are KILLING innocent people and all you talk about is your vain weight loss goals and fat ass. Shame.

Posted by: NO criminal charges at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (/YH+6)

343 Pro life Democrats" are a real thing?The Mario
Cuomo type that is "personally against "it but otherwise as pro abortion
as every other Democrat.
Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 07:35 PM (B48dK)

Yup...evil is as evil does. I don't care if someone supports abortion, that's someone's bad decision. But the "pro-life" Dems see nothing wrong with using my tax money to support their side, i.e. PP, which is wrong.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (ej1L0)

344 Food, not good. Damn autocucumber.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (0mRoj)

345
Where was that? Romania?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

Florida.
----------------------------

Nuff said.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:45 PM (5o5ek)

346 Give me fermented anchovie intestine paste or give me death.

It's ... garrrrrruuum.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:45 PM (rwI+c)

347 I put vinegar on Huma's hoo-hoo. Wait a minute, I don't. What the heck is that smell then?

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (22uju)

348 Pro-tip: Never fight one or more cops over a donut.

Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (oia+s)

349 But the "pro-life" Dems see nothing wrong with using my tax money to support their side, i.e. PP, which is wrong.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (ej1L0)

Worse, the entire progressive movement is based on using your confiscated tax dollars to support progressive programs that help to subvert the Constitution and undermine everyone with a different viewpoint!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (wYnyS)

350 Anchovies can't be all bad if they're in Worcestershire.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (qUNWi)

351 299 Ketchup on a hot dog?? Why? Who would do that?

A seriously disturbed individual.

Mustard, relish, maybe some diced onions, even horseradish - yes. Tomato jizz, no.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (WlGX+)

352 /YH+6
Trolls all Average Joe are, by choice the cock he sucks.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (6FqZa)

353 You are all just jealous because you didn't invent mustard on French fries. It's called 'Weaselizing'.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:47 PM (Sfs6o)

354 >>>>>> Florida. I don't know why people get so silly about hot dog condiments. I know there are regional norms about this that people put an odd amount of self-identity in, but ultimately who gives a shit what condiments people put on their hot dogs or any other good for that matter?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:44 PM (0mRoj
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I think these kind of "fights" are funny. They give you a glimpse into other people's quirks and personalities. I guess hot dog condiments get a lot of attention bc it is such an American food and everyone has an opinion on them.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (6IPEM)

355 Ketchup is for hamburgers; mustard is for hot dogs.

I thought everybody knew that.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

356 I use A1 on fries sometimes. Stop judging.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (qUNWi)

357 Ketchup is for hamburgers; mustard is for hot dogs.

I thought everybody knew that.



Apparently not the people in Florida.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (8ZskC)

358 Vienna sausages, chili, saltines, and cheese. Yes, I was a Marine, why do you ask?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (kTF2Z)

359 "I think these kind of "fights" are funny. They give you a glimpse into other people's quirks and personalities. I guess hot dog condiments get a lot of attention bc it is such an American food and everyone has an opinion on them."
-Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (6IPEM)

^This!^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (6gk0M)

360 "What exactly does a buff Ewok look like?"
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/hgbav9l

Posted by: andycanuck at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (P1hwM)

361 357 Ketchup is for hamburgers; mustard is for hot dogs.

I thought everybody knew that.


Apparently not the people in Florida.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (8ZskC)

We're more open-minded here.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:49 PM (0mRoj)

362 I grew up on fried bologna sammiches.

The ones I grew up with (western NY style) were just served with the butter or oil they were fried in. And mounds of melty mootzadell.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (WlGX+)

363 Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (MNgU2)

364 355 Ketchup is for hamburgers; mustard is for hot dogs. I thought everybody knew that.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (sdi6R) I see you are a conservative as only commies put ketchup on their hot dogs.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (22uju)

365 Surprise, surprise -- one of the suspects arrested in connection with last wee's terrorist attacks in Turkey spent time at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

-
When you hear that Obozo plays for the other team you don't know whether they're talking sex or terrorism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 07, 2016 07:51 PM (Nwg0u)

366 Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?


0_o

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:51 PM (qUNWi)

367 Ok, there are those who say mustard. There are those who say ketchup.

Let's split the condiments, and use Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce.

Posted by: King Solomon at July 07, 2016 07:52 PM (H9MG5)

368 I am not a fan of mustard. I eat soft pretzels just the way they come. So also then I don't put it on hotdogs. If it's all I got ketchup, with relish or onions. But as I wrote before chile or sauerkraut is the best.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 07:52 PM (Yo9Lf)

369 Let's split the condiments, and use Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce.


0_o

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (qUNWi)

370 363 Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (MNgU2)

Um...never crossed my mind.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (0mRoj)

371 Like I said...

If I don't have ketchup, I'm not going to say anything. If I don't have mustard, I'm going to eschew your charitable sausage.

If you don't have onions?

I'll debate with the party about how you should be treated.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (6gk0M)

372
The only rules that work for me are :

Don't eat after 8pm (don't eat and go to sleep)

Don't eat breakfast (before noon)

Eat less, and exercise more. (stay busy)

I have to keep my weight below 210 or I get 'sick'. Preferably below 200, ideally around 185.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (wDzKm)

373 How many are asking "What's a soft pretzel?"

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (Yo9Lf)

374 I would spend hours cooking a good Mexican meal, my DIL would put ketchup on her food, my wife had to talk me down from the ledge a few times. I have started using in-n-out special sauce as a fry dipping sauce instead of ketchup lately because they have horrible fries.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (6Ll1u)

375 I think these kind of "fights" are funny. They give you a glimpse into other people's quirks and personalities. I guess hot dog condiments get a lot of attention bc it is such an American food and everyone has an opinion on them.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (6IPEM)


I completely don't understand it. I would think that if somebody tried to screw with your food in person you would do something on the range of harsh language to slap/punch.

And I think you might be able to justify it.

But I guess the control freak gene has really wide distribution.

Personally, I could give a rat's patoot what other people ate, within reason (i.e. I don't have to share/smell it, it's not my pet or another human, etc).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (wB8Tg)

376 363 Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?

No, but my mom used to cut them into "hotddog pennies" and fry them up with eggs.

My sibs and I freakin' loved that for breakfast. Come to think of it, I bet I haven't had it since I was 15. Gonna have to make some up this weekend.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (WlGX+)

377 >>>Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (MNgU2)<<<

Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm!
And you're in my spot.

Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (H9MG5)

378 I like it all.....hotdogs are made for pairing and sharing.

Ketchup, mustard, relish, onions, hot sauce and a little teenie-weenie drop of sweat from the fat bastard at the hot dog cart makes it all taste good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (ej1L0)

379 Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 07:52 PM (Yo9Lf)

If you ever come to Texas make sure you tell them no mustard on your burger because it's automatically put on in a lot of places.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:54 PM (MNgU2)

380 When I wanna go low carb, I throw a sausage party.

Posted by: Barney Frank at July 07, 2016 07:54 PM (I4EjO)

381 I wonder where eman would be on the whole ketchup and mustard thing...

Or is it catsup?

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:54 PM (Sfs6o)

382

I'm fond of malt vinegar on fries

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 07, 2016 07:54 PM (lKyWE)

383 Maurice Bessinger's Carolina Gold Piggy Park mustard based BBQ sauce is without equal. Discuss.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (rwI+c)

384 So let me get this straight: (a) is this a diet? and (b) do you have to starve yourself?

Posted by: Rev at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (r4wle)

385 >>>>> I use A1 on fries sometimes. Stop judging.
Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:48 PM (qUNWi)
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Oh man, I love that stuff. Just not on steak. If you need A1 on steak you're making chemjeff quality steak. I just eat that stuff plain.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (6IPEM)

386 Crushed habaneros are good on hot dogs.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (P/kVC)

387 "Catsup" is for Commies.

We 'murkins call it Ketchup, pilgrim.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (WlGX+)

388 "The ones I grew up with (western NY style) were just served with the butter or oil they were fried in. And mounds of melty mootzadell."
-Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM (WlGX+)

I had AMERICAN cheese, you Italian, fascist infidel! /s

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (6gk0M)

389 I've had that hamburger surprise in places, I'd eat it now but not as a kid.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (Yo9Lf)

390 383 Maurice Bessinger's Carolina Gold Piggy Park mustard based BBQ sauce is without equal. Discuss.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:55 PM (rwI+c)

Never had it, but I generally don't care for mustard-based BBQ sauce.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (0mRoj)

391 Leave the blanket. Take the pig.

Posted by: lo carb mafia don at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (I4EjO)

392 Is a skinny Ewok canon, or Extended Universe stuff?

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (Doh4+)

393
I read about pineapple sandwiches recently. Wonder bread, mayo, slice of Dole. Southerners eat them.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (5o5ek)

394 My family weed patch ("tree" is too noble-sounding) is riddled with diabetes and heart disease. I won't bore you with the alcoholism and drug addictions.

I'm 51. I do the Zone Diet (see Sears, Barry). Doctor says my blood profile and circulatory benchmarks resembles a guy in his 20s. I agree with Ace, it's all about insulin response.

I swim and hike hills a little and do resistance training (Bodyweight stuff and Harry Reid model bands these days, though I still have vision in both eyes) plus a lot of stretching and a little yoga with the wife. I am trying to work up my nerve for a Spartan or Ragnar Run.

Posted by: Eric Frisch at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (7b4Mw)

395 All I know is Comey can eat shit.

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 07:57 PM (HgMAr)

396 I just eat that stuff plain.

I can't eat anything plain. No can do.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 07:57 PM (qUNWi)

397 The food fights are just fun. Like the longbow crossbow wars.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 07:57 PM (7lVbc)

398 Horseradish!

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 07:57 PM (Doh4+)

399 Sarah Palin is the ketchup on my conservative hotdog.

Top that.

Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2016 07:58 PM (oia+s)

400 Looks like a moronette just got outed
http://tinyurl.com/hky5jd8

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 07:58 PM (6FqZa)

401 ..."Personally, I could give a rat's patoot what other people ate, within reason (i.e. I don't have to share/smell it, it's not my pet or another human, etc)."
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 07:53 PM (wB8Tg)

Stop being reasonable, kill-joy!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:58 PM (6gk0M)

402 393
I read about pineapple sandwiches recently. Wonder bread, mayo, slice of Dole. Southerners eat them.
Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (5o5ek)
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That is a southern thing - haven't thought of it in years.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

403 I read about pineapple sandwiches recently. Wonder bread, mayo, slice of Dole. Southerners eat them.
Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 07:56 PM (5o5ek) Growing up a real treat was a slice of dole over cottage cheese with a dollop of Miracle Whip. Yum!

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (22uju)

404 Hamburgers typically have pickle slices, while hot dogs usually have relish. That's so close that it's understandable that someone might want to switch them around. Onions go fine with either.

Hamburgers are frequently served with lettuce. Has anyone ever put lettuce on a hot dog?

Don't answer that. Sometimes people should just keep their perversions to themselves.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (sdi6R)

405 My husband and I just watched Montel Williams give Joy Reid a new neck ring on MSLSD.

He was complaining about the number of suicides among our veterans, and she had the smuggest, smirkiest face ever.

She's a POS.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (1ZOkK)

406 Stop being reasonable, kill-joy!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 07:58 PM (6gk0M)


Apparently I'm out of step with the times.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (wB8Tg)

407 I think it's today around 1928 Wonderbread started being sold across the country.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (Yo9Lf)

408 Personally, I could give a rat's patoot what other people ate

Odd comment on a diet thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (rwI+c)

409 Hey, where do I fit into all of this?

Posted by: Tarter Sauce at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (8ZskC)
........

You don't.

Posted by: Tartar Sauce at July 07, 2016 08:00 PM (HgMAr)

410 though in fairness, we're past time for it to turn into a gub thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:00 PM (rwI+c)

411 >>>> Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 07:50 PM
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Nobody bc civilized people don't do that!
Bad cook mother used to cut up hot dogs in Mac and cheese. It was so bad.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:00 PM (6IPEM)

412 "Apparently I'm out of step with the times."
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (wB8Tg)

Hah!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (6gk0M)

413 If you need A1 on steak you're making chemjeff quality steak.
============================================


Hey - did chemjeff disappear?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (dFi94)

414 All I know is Comey can eat shit.

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 07:57 PM (HgMAr)




He's got a mouthful of Hillary's and he's loving it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (GILMl)

415 Truth: Fried Bologna Sandwiches are the foundation of my family's fortune.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (rwI+c)

416
Megamillion is now $540 mil or $380 mil jackpot or $229,520,000 after federal taxes.

I suspect it will go higher before Fri. night's drawing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (iQIUe)

417 Heard on Fox not a hour ago 20 suicides a day from veterans. That is criminal and blame the VA the most.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)

418 Odd comment on a diet thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 07:59 PM (rwI+c)


I know, it's such an unfathomable concept that, even when The Science Is Settled, people have a right to choose their own priorities and have their own tastes.

As I said, I'm out of step with the times.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (wB8Tg)

419 Hey - did chemjeff disappear?

He self banned.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (qUNWi)

420 Bad cook mother used to cut up hot dogs in Mac and cheese. It was so bad.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:00 PM (6IPEM)
==============================================

I kinda liked that, if the cheesy sauce was made from Velveeta.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (dFi94)

421 416


Megamillion is now $540 mil or $380 mil jackpot or $229,520,000 after federal taxes.



Some member of the FSA will win it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (1ZOkK)

422 413 If you need A1 on steak you're making chemjeff quality steak.
============================================


Hey - did chemjeff disappear?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (dFi94)

Yep. Self-imposed exile.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (0mRoj)

423 Chemjeff has been a no show all week.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)

424 "Truth: Fried Bologna Sandwiches are the foundation of my family's fortune."
-Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (rwI+c)

God's continued Blessings, Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (6gk0M)

425
Hey - did chemjeff disappear?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:01 PM (dFi94)
-----------------

Weeks ago by my reckoning.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (5o5ek)

426 410 just trimmed 76 pieces of 260 Remington brass to exactly 2.036" OAL.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

427 He self banned.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (qUNWi)
========================================

Oh, Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (dFi94)

428 Hey, where do I fit into all of this?
Posted by: Tarter Sauce at July 07, 2016 07:43 PM (8ZskC)
........
You don't.
Posted by: Tartar Sauce at July 07, 2016 08:00 PM (HgMAr)

Back in the day (60s-70s) anyone remember Burger Chef?

Didn't they put tarter sauce on their big burger and call it the "Big Chef"?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (ej1L0)

429
Based on the principle alone and assuming you have another 40 years to live, that would give you more than 465k a month to spend.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (iQIUe)

430 417
Heard on Fox not a hour ago 20 suicides a day from veterans. That is criminal and blame the VA the most.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)


Two of those last summer were buddies from our son's unit. Parents never saw it coming. Son stays in touch with the father of his closest buddy. Wears a black bracelet with buddy's name.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (1ZOkK)

431 423 Chemjeff has been a no show all week.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)

Or is he posting as Maurice?

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (7qAYi)

432 Was looking back when someone said he (Chemjeff ) wrote a goodbye and looked but couldn't find it.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (Yo9Lf)

433 I saw Heinz 57 was the most popular steak sauce, I like that stuff. I love to dip my fries in it. But John fucking Kerry's wife owns it, so now I have to make my own. And it's hard.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (6Ll1u)

434 I put Heinz 57 on most everthing except fried food.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (MNgU2)

435 419 Hey - did chemjeff disappear?

He self banned.

--

Gave in to the siren sing of open borders

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (7lVbc)

436 *checks out*

Catch y'all later!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (6gk0M)

437
Heard on Fox not a hour ago 20 suicides a day from veterans. That is criminal and blame the VA the most.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)
==========================================

I really just don't know how their families go on. Son was in 12 years, did suicide prevention stuff a good portion of that time. He still had losses. It's a hard thing.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (dFi94)

438 Maybe ace should turn this into a health blog. I can't believe that the casualties from the Trump Wars continues to mount.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 08:05 PM (I4EjO)

439 chemjeff is a good guy. Knock it off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:06 PM (1ZOkK)

440
Heard on Fox not a hour ago 20 suicides a day from veterans. That is criminal and blame the VA the most.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)
-----------------

Michelle always felt so sorry for them and wanted to give them mental health services. How about physical health services? What do you do when you know you've got cancer or advanced heart disease and you get dumped into the Circumlocution Office while prisoners get sex-change operations and illegal aliens get sophisticated obstetric treatment?

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:06 PM (5o5ek)

441 What the heck happened

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (zOTsN)

442 Gave in to the siren sing of open borders

He vamoosed

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (rwI+c)

443 >>>> I kinda liked that, if the cheesy sauce was made from Velveeta.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM
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That kind doesn't look so bad. Bad cook mother is also the biggest cheapskate in the world. She would buy the generic brand with the powder fake cheese that was unnaturally orange in color.

I heard Abba on the radio yesterday and thought of you. It was a little weird, but it made me happy.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (6IPEM)

444 Mooch cared about the vets long enough to get her prissy husband re-elected.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (1ZOkK)

445 Based on the principle alone and assuming you have another 40 years to live, that would give you more than 465k a month to spend

-
Wow! After the bar bill that still leaves like $100,000.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (Nwg0u)

446 Back in the day (60s-70s) anyone remember Burger Chef?


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 08:03 PM (ej1L0)

I only remember Burger Chef as an answer to a bit of Star Wars trivia - they had the first license for SW merchandise.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (7qAYi)

447 I don't get it but was never in combat. Whenever I hear of it it's just a heartbreaker.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (Yo9Lf)

448 I just stick my finger down my throat like a professional.

Posted by: Corona at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (ragzU)

449 439 chemjeff is a good guy. Knock it off.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:06 PM (1ZOkK)


I liked him fine, but towards the end he was like Rain Man with open borders. It got tiresome.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:08 PM (sdi6R)

450 Gave in to the siren sing of open borders

He vamoosed

-
Went Taco Bell and ran for the border.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 07, 2016 08:08 PM (Nwg0u)

451 Man you get occupied looking for shoes online and all hell breaks loose

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:08 PM (zOTsN)

452 What are your feelings about Hamburger Helper?Haven't had it since I was a kid,noticed they now have a huge number of varieties.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (B48dK)

453 >>>> Okay who will admit to putting hotdogs into their spaghetti sauce?
..............

Fry up potatoes, add chopped onion and Spam. If you don't have Spam use hotdogs. Mix in scrambled eggs and melt cheddar over the top.
Enjoy with KETCHUP.

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (HgMAr)

454 Son said on his first tour, about 50% of the men got dumped by their wives or girlfriends while they were over in Iraq. Imagine getting a letter from your wife saying "I'm gone, and so's the bank account that your checks have been routed to."


And then you have to get up and go clear a village. Talk about messing with your head.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (dFi94)

455
Chemjeff can easily be found via a google search on other blogs driving them crazy, to wit: Instapundit or Reason.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (iQIUe)

456

Btw. The guy with his shirt off giving me a Hannibal lector buffalo bill vibe

Yuck

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (zOTsN)

457 As the vets in Range 15 said, guys have a "family" while serving, and they come home to a populace where the majority don't know anyone who's served.

They feel lost, alone, and strangers in a strange land. Unlike any previous war.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (1ZOkK)

458 He looks like he lost his weight doing crystal meth

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (zOTsN)

459
Back in the day (60s-70s) anyone remember Burger Chef?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


Used to be quite a few of them.
Even been to a Burger Queen?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

460 OT: No Man's Sky has gone gold. It's done. All that's left for the team to do is, I guess, to continue the testing to get ready for the inevitable day-one patch

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (6FqZa)

461
I just stick my finger down my throat like a professional.
Posted by: Corona at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (ragzU)
---------------------

Save your finger and put on a recording of a Hillary speech.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:11 PM (5o5ek)

462 Back in the day (60s-70s) anyone remember Burger Chef?


Posted by: Hairyback Guy
--------

Totally. Based in Indy... I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2016 08:11 PM (ANVXm)

463 Based on the principle alone and assuming you have
another 40 years to live, that would give you more than 465k a month to
spend.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (iQIUe)

That is 15k a day in hookers and blow.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:11 PM (P/kVC)

464 417 Heard on Fox not a hour ago 20 suicides a day from veterans. That is criminal and blame the VA the most.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:02 PM (Yo9Lf)


I'm more inclined to blame the administration that utterly threw away their gains, surrendered to the enemy, and rendered their sacrifices pointless.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

465 I heard Abba on the radio yesterday and thought of you. It was a little weird, but it made me happy.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (6IPEM)
=============================================

Aw, that's sweet. I found some other music I'm going to have played just for him. Like the Lone Ranger theme song and other Western oldies. He'll like that. The rest of the guests will probably think we're crazy, but what the heck.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (dFi94)

466 Btw. The guy with his shirt off giving me a Hannibal lector buffalo bill vibe

Yuck
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (zOTsN)

You've had another run-in with Senator Lindsay Graham?

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (7qAYi)

467 I've never been happier that son wasn't with us than the other night at dinner, sitting at the bar, listening to a West Point grad go on and on about his awesomeness.

He finished with, "I've never been in combat, but damn, there was a crowd at the mall the other day that was probably like it."

I wanted to throat punch him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (1ZOkK)

468 Yes Jane. I agree. I know I don't come on here as much as I used to but I always thought chemjeff was a great guy. I don't know what happened to piss half the people off here and frankly don't really care. We can always just agree to disagree but sadly it turns into a hate fest half the time.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (CNHr1)

469 468
Yes Jane. I agree. I know I don't come on here as much as I used to but
I always thought chemjeff was a great guy. I don't know what happened
to piss half the people off here and frankly don't really care. We can
always just agree to disagree but sadly it turns into a hate fest half
the time.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (CNHr1)


Sadly, this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (1ZOkK)

470 I have no problem with disagreements but that guy crossed the line into troll territory.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (B48dK)

471 I only remember Burger Chef as an answer to a bit of Star Wars trivia - they had the first license for SW merchandise.
Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:07 PM (7qAYi)

They used to be bigger than Mickey D's.....but they expanded too fast and went bankrupt if I remember right. They had cheap burgers which were decent and even an ice cream stand in some of the restaurants.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (ej1L0)

472 My Mom used Hamburger Helper all the time. But then, she had 4 of us eating her out of house and home. Brings back memories!

Posted by: wth at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (HgMAr)

473 Burger Chef was where I discovered that there really was a difference between Mayo and miracle whip. I was 12 and they had a pump that splooged out a white yummy substance, and it didn't kill me.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (6Ll1u)

474
they had a pump that splooged out a white yummy substance, and it didn't kill me.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 08:14 PM (6Ll1u)
-------------------

Did it make you go blind or grow hair on your palms?

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:15 PM (5o5ek)

475 I don't remember a lot about my mothers cooking other than she tried to kill us all with salt.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 08:15 PM (Sfs6o)

476 I never considered chemjeff and troll steevy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:15 PM (CNHr1)

477 It's true, you ending up doing the longer fasting because you're not hungry and don't even think about food.

Posted by: Starring Miley's Tongue as Paul Kersey at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (4p3Tz)

478 I remember Burger Chef. I believe they used Family Circus characters in their commercials.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

479 chemjeff is a junior professor in a technical discipline at a small college, right. His field is one of the most dependent on immigrants and visa holders. It would be a stretch for him to not be in favor of relaxed borders.

Some small colleges are almost all foriegn students - on full rides.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (Doh4+)

480 463 Based on the principle alone and assuming you have
another 40 years to live, that would give you more than 465k a month to
spend.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:04 PM (iQIUe)

That is 15k a day in hookers and blow.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:11 PM (P/kVC)
==========

Gee, when you put it that way, it explains how even the very rich can blow their $$$ wad so quickly.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (iQIUe)

481 >>>That is 15k a day in hookers and blow

Or 282,000 pesos! You could be the Archduke of Tijuana.

Posted by: wooga at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (OCzOh)

482 I'd love to move to France & open up a burger joint - The Burgers of Calais.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:17 PM (7qAYi)

483 We can always just agree to disagree but sadly it turns into a hate fest half the time.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:12 PM (CNHr1)


Unfortunately, no, we can't always agree to disagree, some people have *got* to have an Emmanuel Goldstein or their life is not complete.

This particular argument never stopped from last fall until today (technically longer, but not at this fever pitch), and now that he's gone people are following him around elsewhere and keeping it up.

One major reason I read blogs *in general* less than I do. All comment sections eventually become YouTube comment sections.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:17 PM (wB8Tg)

484 And she thought that vegetables needed to be cooked for at least 17 hours.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 08:17 PM (Sfs6o)

485 I have 8 hrs until I have to get up.
Keep it civil horde.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2016 08:17 PM (Yo9Lf)

486 To be fair. It would go a long way if people didn't insist that people who wanted border control and to limit immigration were racist . People get angry when they are accused of racism repeatedly

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:17 PM (zOTsN)

487 Gee, I just ate pizza and had some home made cookies for desert, now I feel guilt

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (EowmZ)

488 Just heard that Comey has concluded an investigation of Trump U. Indictments coming down against Donald and his kids.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (2TUVm)

489 This will be the new truth until they change their mind again...

Posted by: The Nutritional Hat at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (vBeA5)

490 Discovery Channel did a piece a few years ago about how winning lotteries ruined peoples' lives (well, the people were idiots to begin with).

One family in Florida (of course) ended up pulling their teen daughters out of school, and the whole family laid around doing blow all day, and living in filth.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (1ZOkK)

491 Even been to a Burger Queen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

Wowo...forgot about them....I think one time in Miami or Florida somewhere.....not bad.

Royal Castle was around then too.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (ej1L0)

492 BTW, how have the mass banings been going?

Posted by: The Nutritional Hat at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (vBeA5)

493 I guess No Man's Sky will be the next big gaming sensation.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (qUNWi)

494 Worth reading, a fast food sort of way. I was right about Indy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_Chef

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (ANVXm)

495 Even been to a Burger Queen?



Posted by: at July 07, 2016 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

Hamburger Marys? They used to have one in Waikiki.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (P/kVC)

496 Hot dogs with German mustard and plenty of sauerkraut. (They must be Hebrew National or they give me indigestion.) This is the second team. Grilled bratwurst is king with the same mustard and kraut.

Posted by: JTB at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (V+03K)

497 There was a Burger Chef with a big sign visible as you drove down Rt 114 from Peabody to Salem, MA.

I was in the back seat, where small kids belong.

Posted by: fluffy at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (eiFlk)

498 454 Son said on his first tour, about 50% of the men got dumped by their wives or girlfriends while they were over in Iraq. Imagine getting a letter from your wife saying "I'm gone, and so's the bank account that your checks have been routed to."


And then you have to get up and go clear a village. Talk about messing with your head.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (dFi94)

My ex came home one night and told me basically this same thing. That was horrible enough. I can't imagine getting betrayed and gutted like that while serving overseas.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:20 PM (0mRoj)

499 (This is the comment that'll probably get me banned. Here goes -- )

I don't diet, but it looks as though I've inadvertently been doing the Warrior Diet for years. I rarely eat breakfast, I never eat lunch, I have a beer and nearly a whole bag of Doritos when I get home from work, and when I have dinner (sometimes I skip it) it's a well-balanced meal, about half of which is convenience food, accompanied by another beer.

Results: I've lost about 30 pounds (high 170s to high 140s) over 3 years or so. That's less than a pound a month, so it's not drastic by any standard. Also, I have a job that keeps me moving quite a bit.

Disclaimer: I smoke. I understand that keeps the pounds off. So there's that, which I don't recommend. In fact, I don't recommend any of my diet. On an intellectual level, I know that my lifestyle is hardly healthy - but I feel fine most of the time.

I have two recommendations if you want to gain weight (or want not to lose weight): computers and telephones. Really - if you're at 175 and want to weigh 200, get a job in telesales.

(Again, I'm not trying to lose any weight. I just do. I know - I suck.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:20 PM (zwu5q)

500 Is there a version of the diet for borderline alcoholics?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 07, 2016 08:20 PM (/f6Nd)

501 I watched the top law officer of the land dissemble in front of my very eyes.

I watched him change and pervert the very nature of a criminal statute in real time.

I watched the members of a political party cheer on the perversion of the rule of law the very foundation of our former constitutional republic with utter glee.

We are not going to extract ourselves from our predicament by voting.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (Z/FKv)

502 Yeah Chemjeff became a nuisance.

I used to kinda like him too. Tried to teach him how to cook a steak.

To no avail.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (qUNWi)

503 I hope Trump starts hammering Hillary about taking the 5th in her FBI interview.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (R+30W)

504 What are your feelings about Hamburger Helper?Haven't had it since I was a kid,noticed they now have a huge number of varieties.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 08:09 PM (B48dK)


I don't know why they this stuff Hamburger Helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than Tuna Helper myself, don't you, Clark?

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (GUBah)

505 IF in conjunction with keto (low carb, moderate protein, high fat) works. It's a completely lifestyle change, though. I will say that I fell into IF unintentionally just by eating keto. I'm just not that hungry, so I skip breakfast and eat lunch around 1 or 2 pm. Have dinner and maybe even dessert (this evening it was a chocolate pudding pie made with an almond flour and butter crust, swerve and stevia to sweeten, heavy cream, unsweetened chocolate, and eggs, almost 40 grams of fat per piece) and am done by 7:30 or 8 pm. I've been keto for a year and almost two months now, started in a ladies size 20W (which is plus), and am now wearing a size 6. All my health markers and bloodwork went to normal as well.

It's been a life changer, and it's permanent for me.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (KkVB6)

506 Even been to a Burger Queen?

We had them here. Morphed into Druther's ... which was actually pretty damned good ... then went away.

And now you people slow your damned roll. I'll not tolerate all this spontaneous for-no-reason emotional bullshit. Fvcking bunch of emos.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (fiGNd)

507 Merovign.. you are one of a handful of people here who I practically bow down to because you are incredibly smart and articulate. Who the fuck is Emmanual Goldstein? lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (CNHr1)

508 Ace, thanks for this post. I've been sort of dieting since last fall and have lost 40 lbs. joined a gym and work out 5 days a week. Being a slight diabetic I was wondering if fasting is ok. I'm going to look more into this with my doctor.

Posted by: jaimo at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (eDc0r)

I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic (as if that's any different than full-blown!) the day after Christmas. I pretty much did what Ace did. I educated myself by reading "Always Hungry" and watching Jason Fung's YT videos. I lost about 27 pounds in three months and have kept it off with LCHF. I'm now stuck at a plateau.

Jason Fung is a nephrologist by trade and has intensely studied kidney function in his diabetic patients. Giving the pancreas a rest is beneficial for all of us, esp. diabetics.

I'm going to step up the IF. For those worried about being hungry and hangry, when you eat high fat, your hunger will feel different -- not the gnawing, driving growling, but a minor nuisance that's easily ignored. IIRC, "bulletproof coffee" or "butter coffee" is an acceptable substitute for breakfast. I make mine with a TBS of coconut oil and lots of heavy cream. You won't believe how good you feel (esp. if you have a hangover!) The author of "Always Hungry," an MD, says if you're still craving sugar on an LCHF diet that you're not eating enough fat! Be decadent with the heavy cream in your coffee. Also, have some fresh berries with heavy cream as a snack or dessert.

Some LCHF bloggers swear by an egg fast (do a search on it) that they say knocks off about six pounds over the course of a weekend. The site dietdoctor.com is interesting as well re LCHF resources. It has a Top 10 list for recipes as well as LCHF web sites and books. "What the Fat?" looks like a great book but is only available on Kindle these days.

Posted by: RushBabe at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (OJKE+)

509 490 Discovery Channel did a piece a few years ago about how winning lotteries ruined peoples' lives (well, the people were idiots to begin with).

One family in Florida (of course) ended up pulling their teen daughters out of school, and the whole family laid around doing blow all day, and living in filth.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:18 PM (1ZOkK)

Right. The only people who irresponsible or disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

510 I was in the back seat, where small kids belong.



Posted by: fluffy at July 07, 2016 08:19 PM (eiFlk)
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I was browsing the Wisconsin laws for kids and car seats and such - I don't think my granddaughter will make it to the front seat till she's twelve!

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (dFi94)

511 Did CJ self-terminate or did he get banned? I could swear I just saw a post disappear.

Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 08:23 PM (Sfs6o)

512 Is there a version of the diet for borderline alcoholics?

I just use the mostly fast, don't eat much technique.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:23 PM (qUNWi)

513 Speaking of burgers, I loved Jake's Wayback Burgers. There was one near my workplace for a few years, and I frequently went there for lunch. But it closed. *sob*

Now they're just called Wayback Burgers. They're mainly a Northeast chain.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

514 Ugh, yet another fad diet. It's not rocket science. More activity + less calorie intake = weight loss, unless their is some underlying condition such as thyroid & such. A person will normally plateau when their body has either reached their ideal weight for their body frame and age or some other equation is used that causes the metabolism to slow down to a crawl, such as low activity, or not eating a nutrious diet. The body is a fantastic machine that will slow its metabolism once famine begins. At the very least, ask your doctor about fasting & proper heart function - fad diets & normal metabolism. Then work out to Karen Carpenter's 'We've Only Just Begun;-)

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 08:23 PM (yNyJy)

515 "I'm gone, and so's the bank account that your checks have been routed to."

#1 reason to leave durable power of attorney with the hq element.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (Doh4+)

516
When I checked about 3 weeks ago, I didnt see anyone from here following chemjeff to other sites. He's got a whole new audience to accuse of being racist.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (iQIUe)

517 Right. The only people who irresponsible or
disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my
own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through
buck naked when I get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)


Hey, I'm a native. My sweet late mother's family are all there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (1ZOkK)

518 My dad just sent me a bunch of photos of his father and grandfather. We only had two photos of his dad and none of his grandfather before this.

The family resemblance is stunning. It is so cool.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (+eR2D)

519 >>> I hope Trump starts hammering Hillary about taking the 5th in her FBI interview.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM
------
She did? I must have missed this, not that I'm surprised in the least. Trump needs to come up with a better name for her like Protected Criminal Hillary or something.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (6IPEM)

520 I've weighed almost the same weight for over 40 years. I eat in moderation, have a few glasses of wine a night and a few shots of tequila. I do smoke though and I know it's bad for me. That's my secret

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:25 PM (CNHr1)

521 One thing I also found out is that a keto / high fat diet is actually a therapy for epilepsy / seizures.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 06:16 PM (7lVbc)
===========================================

Really? Huh - I did not know that. Thanks.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 06:30 PM (dFi94)

Among other things! Read the opening chapter of this book. It's also beneficial for those suffering from arthritis, inflammatory disorders and depression. I know my hands and feet used to feel stiff on waking every morning. As soon as I cut out flour, I feel fantastic.

http://amzn.to/29utx1h

Posted by: RushBabe at July 07, 2016 08:25 PM (OJKE+)

522 chemjeff is a junior professor in a technical
discipline at a small college, right. His field is one of the most
dependent on immigrants and visa holders. It would be a stretch for him
to not be in favor of relaxed borders.



Some small colleges are almost all foriegn students - on full rides.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:16 PM (Doh4+)

And if you did not agree with that you were some sort of a crypto-racist.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:25 PM (P/kVC)

523 I hope Trump starts hammering Hillary

I am so sorry ... but my brain tripped an internal breaker and stopped right there.

Cure for cancer might have followed for all I know.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

524 Weasel -- he self banned. If he got banned-banned it was not on my watch.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (qUNWi)

525 Right. The only people who irresponsible or disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get hungry.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Hahaha...too funny! I think I saw you the other day at Wendy's.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (ej1L0)

526 smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)
===========================================

So that WAS you! I thought so.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (dFi94)

527 Backyard Burger is a new chain that's good.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (Doh4+)

528 I don't think my granddaughter will make it to the front seat till she's twelve!


Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (dFi94)


That was the age my cousin was when my grandfather decided he needed to learn how to drive.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (GUBah)

529 With my sainted mother going batshit insane, and the shock doc's favorite treatment for it, I got to reading a hell of a lot about the topic. Back in the old days, they did a lot of a "shock" treatments. They didn't have a clue what they were doing, and in many cases were outright sadistic.

We've gone too far in the other direction, but we don't want to return to those old days of dealing with the batshit insane.

At any rate, one of the "shock" treatments they did was insulin shock "therapy". They'd inject enough insulin into patients to put them into insulin shock. Intentional hypoglycemic shock with seizures and all that shit. Intentional.

Guess what, those patients all became terribly obese. They were doing that back in the 40s and 50s. There was the evidence right there that high insulin doses leads to scale breaking obesity.

Insulin also suppresses some "I'm full" hormone, the name I forget. Anyway this hormone tells the brain one is full. High insulin suppresses that.

In fact, I remember reading something that when a bear goes into the "store fat" mode pending hibernation, the bear's body gets in a state similar to metabolic syndrome, lard ass syndrome, in humans. Stuffing yourself with carbs leads to this state, and the effect is putting on enormous amounts of fat. We don't then hibernate and burn that shit off slowly.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (DW+jj)

530 Trump said that HIllary "won her FBI primary". I admire the brevity of that joke.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (q6C1L)

531 Merovign.. you are one of a handful of people here who I practically bow down to because you are incredibly smart and articulate. Who the fuck is Emmanual Goldstein? lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM (CNHr1)


Well, that's embarrassing, but I'll take what praise I can get! Wow!

Emmanuel Goldstein was the (presumably invented) "villian" the all-powerful state in the book "1984" was always warning people about.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (wB8Tg)

532 511 Did CJ self-terminate or did he get banned?
Posted by: Weasel at July 07, 2016 08:23 PM (Sfs6o)


He self-deported.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (sdi6R)

533 Well, it's been an exhausting week. Spent all day yesterday hosting my THIRD funeral reception in a couple of months. 6+ hours of setting up, serving, cleaning up.

It's a gift to the family, but I'm beyond tired.

Later.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:26 PM (1ZOkK)

534 I just don't like talking about specific people when they aren't here to respond

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (zOTsN)

535 Sorry to be so OT out of the blue. Dad and I have been doing a lot of research on the family this past year. It's been frustrating and wonderfully gratifying at the same time.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (+eR2D)

536 Oooh, The Killing Joke is screening:
http://tinyurl.com/jyy2v9k

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (6FqZa)

537 Right. The only people who irresponsible or disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get hungry.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Don't feel bad. I spend all day eating cheesesteaks while running up the Art Museum steps, all the while throwing D-cell batteries at strangers & booing Santa Claus.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (7qAYi)

538 And if you did not agree with that you were some sort of a crypto-racist.

Posted by: Burnt Toast

I just say "I am a racist" three times to the mirror while Im lathering up a shave every morning; makes the world easier to deal with.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:28 PM (Doh4+)

539 Among other things! Read the opening chapter of
this book. It's also beneficial for those suffering from arthritis,
inflammatory disorders and depression. I know my hands and feet used to
feel stiff on waking every morning. As soon as I cut out flour, I feel
fantastic.



http://amzn.to/29utx1h

Posted by: RushBabe at July 07, 2016 08:25 PM (OJKE+)
================================================

Oh, I'm really going to have to get that book. I have a mild seizure disorder, arthritis, lupus (which is an inflammatory disease) and depression. I think I hit all the notes.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:29 PM (dFi94)

540 OT Just got around to Gowdy's grilling of Comey, to paraphrase my teenager. Comey was all like, wut? That was an absolute ass kicking. Mr. Comey. Did Hillary lie about all these items. Comey"Essentially, YES". The fucker admits that she lied about all these things, had her lawyers (not cleared) go through her e-mails and that 30,000 plus were destroyed somehow, all this after she intentionally set up her own non state approved server. And he can't find fucking intent? Holy Ballz.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 08:29 PM (EowmZ)

541 SERIOUS QUESTION:

How can I incorporate my 6 beers-a-day into this?

Because alcoholic.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 07, 2016 08:29 PM (br2jI)

542 >>> I do smoke though and I know it's bad for me. That's my secret
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:25 PM (CNHr1)
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Dont worry, Jewell. We won't tell anyone. I promise.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:29 PM (6IPEM)

543 517 Right. The only people who irresponsible or
disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my
own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through
buck naked when I get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Hey, I'm a native. My sweet late mother's family are all there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (1ZOkK)


I apologize if that was misdirected fire then. I'm just exhausted and annoyed with this apparent national pastime of slagging on Floridians, as if there aren't any wackjobs in California or anywhere else. It gets old. Plus, it started off with crybaby leftists who were pissed that Gore wasn't allowed to cheat his way into getting the Florida presidential vote.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:29 PM (0mRoj)

544 I have a mild seizure disorder, arthritis, lupus (which is an inflammatory disease) and depression.

Grammy !!! When I'm surrounded by idiots, I feel EXACTLY the same way !!!

Know a good therapy group ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:30 PM (fiGNd)

545 536 Oooh, The Killing Joke is screening:
http://tinyurl.com/jyy2v9k
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (6FqZa)



With the best Joker, and the best Batman voicing.

Posted by: buzzion at July 07, 2016 08:30 PM (z/Ubi)

546 537
I spend all day eating cheesesteaks while running up the Art Museum steps, all the while throwing D-cell batteries at strangers & booing Santa Claus.
Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (7qAYi)


You too? I thought I was the only one who did that.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

547 What are your feelings about Hamburger Helper?Haven't had it since I was a kid, noticed they now have a huge number of varieties.

Posted by: steevy at 8:09 PM
________

The Taco one is my favorite. Most I can take or leave (and usually leave, because really - it's more work than they lead you to believe in their ads) and a couple are bad - Cheesy Cheeseburger or whatever it's called is awful.

HH is probably not the best thing for you, but nor is it the worst.

I call it Farsha Pomoshchnik to make it sound like an exotic foreign dish.

Disclaimer (again): I own General Mills stock.

(But seriously, the Taco one is good.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:31 PM (zwu5q)

548 @540

Basically Gowdy's questioning and Comey's responses can be played in their entirety unedited as an attack ad.

Gowdy was masterful.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:31 PM (Z/FKv)

549 It is absolutely amazing that any of us that are over 60 are still alive today. The stuff that we did and were part of would have CPS on our doorstep in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 07, 2016 08:31 PM (nQ3uL)

550 Backyard Burger is a new chain that's good.


Posted by: Jean

Actually, it's been around for a long time, just might have entered your market.

There was one near me years ago, and then closed because the quality failed some time after it opened. Yes, it tasted pretty good at first.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (Cz05v)

551 I'm pretty sure Adam Corrolla's "Florida or Germany" bit predated Gore/Bush by quite a few years.

Florida's been a national joke for a while now.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (qUNWi)

552 You too? I thought I was the only one who did that.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R)



I do to. But I do it in Texas. I've gone rogue!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (+eR2D)

553 Emmanuel Goldstein was a creation of George Orwell made to represent an object of hate. Think how the Left calls any conservative a racist, sexist, homophobe.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (2TUVm)

554 519 >>> I hope Trump starts hammering Hillary about taking the 5th in her FBI interview.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:21 PM
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She did? I must have missed this, not that I'm surprised in the least. Trump needs to come up with a better name for her like Protected Criminal Hillary or something.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:24 PM (6IPEM)

++++

We don't know what she did. It wasn't recorded, no transcript, no release of any info. Trump should "start asking questions". Put pressure on her / FBI to comment on the content of her interview.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (R+30W)

555 I ride a horse, shoot at strangers, wear a cowboy hat and write bad words on rocks. Well. As best I can. My reading and writing and learning ain't so good. Now let me get that cow patty off my boot

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (zOTsN)

556 Merovign..I have never read 1984. *runs and ducks*

Started to in HS... got terribly sick and missed a few weeks of school.. that's when the class was reading it.. teacher gave me a pass and an easier book to read to pass the class. Just never got around to it. I know... I'm hanging my head in shame.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (CNHr1)

557 There are so many factors to health and nutrition, we are basically dealing with a shitload of people who understand a grain of sand and think they understand the beach.

People *often* find a diet or routine works really well for *them* and think it's the One True Answer, but genetics, epigenetics, gut flora, intestinal health, allergies, auto-immune disorders - they all play into it.

Germans trying to reduce obesity by doing otherwise kind of iffy bypass surgery apparently accidentally cut out a key piece of intestine and *cured* the diabetes of a large chunk (GET IT) of their patients, who were also suddenly able to lose weight and keep it off after struggling for years. Apparently that part of the intestine was sending faulty signals that kept insulin sky-high when it shouldn't have been and POW, problem solved.

Someday I hope we will have a better handle on it, but bless everyone who has found a way that works, and good luck to everyone who hasn't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (wB8Tg)

558

See. They didn't put her under oath. So she could lie

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (zOTsN)

559 Not only is the "calories in, calories out myth" a deadly mistake but so is "a calorie is a calorie." there is nothing the same between 100 calories of oreo and 100 calories of an apple. Nothing.

fasting works but an easy way to get the same result without fasting is to stop eating processed food and eat real food. Fruit, veggies, pasture raised meat, wild caught seafood. All will lower your blood sugar compared to soda's, packaged foods, sugar added fat free foods. Lost around 50 pounds by switching from processed foods to real food and walking.

Another myth that keeps people from losing weight is the belief you have to exercise to lose weight. you don't. 80% of weight loss is due tot he foods you eat while only 20% and maybe even less is due to exercise. Stop eating the crap the food industry makes and the weight falls off.

Posted by: unseen at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (6ez2Z)

560 Funny, ThunderB, I have the same rule/ethic/comfort principle. Apart from not really being interested in talking about other commenters in general, it just seems better etiquette to only do so when they're "present". (of course you never know, many of us dash to/away from the blog or the computer at any given time and can't follow the flow)


For the very first time ever (aside from one chemistry question where I asked and received a helpful reply) I addressed the aforementioned commenter (mentioned by others here), it was his last day, cannot recall the details, but his comment was so absurd it demanded at least a partial response.


But then the brouhaha ensued later that day, I missed all of it, and poof! he's gone. Apart from good-natured ribbing sessions re steak preparation techniques, no loss.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (QDnY+)

561 Went low carb\sugar in Jan when blood tests revealed I was type 2diabetic.

I was prescribed medicine for the diabetes but decided not to take it but rather attempt to cure it through diet.

I basically eat meat, chicken, fish, eggs veggies and cheese.

I'm a Yuge bread and pasta lover so it was very hard but after the first week the cravings disappeared.

I now have zero carb cravings even when my favorites are right there in front of me.

Down 65lbs and blood sugar levels usually around 109 at test time.

Once you put it in your mind that carbs & sugar can never be a part of your life again it becomes easy.

Two tips:

Keto Flu is a bitch but it only last a week or so.

Kimchi is a must for lowering blood sugar & dropping weight. Get the good stuff at your local Korean grocer and eat a bit daily.

Posted by: #1lurker at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (eaj8w)

562 Know a good therapy group ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:30 PM (fiGNd)
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Oh hon, I've been in therapy since 1991. Not group, unfortunately. Just my lonely crazy self.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (dFi94)

563 Inflammation is bad. Bad. I've got rheumatoid arthritis, which is big time inflammatory. Like Lupus and a bunch of other diseases, it's autoimmune, where your own stupid immune systems gets identification friend or foe mixed up and attacks your own tissue.

In my case, it attacks a protein found in your joints. In other cases, it attacks something else.

Anyway, constant inflammation is bad, and part of the metabolic syndrome, lard ass syndrome, is low level inflammation. I forget the details.

Anyway, the govt's dietary recommendations over the last 40 years have probably killed more people prematurely that anything else ever did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)

564 Right. The only people who irresponsible or disgusting things live in
Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall,
smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get
hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Did you remember to tip them by chucking a three gator through the window?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

565 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (+eR2D)



Get one of the DNA tests run, it can be a real eye-opener. I used FTDNA.com's "Family Finder" ($100). There are some sites that allow you to upload your raw results into a database and then run them against everyone else who has uploaded regardless of the service they used. It allows for you to screen against a much larger pool.


My (adoptive) mom took one as well. She was a little perturbed to learn that she wasn't related to Lizzie Warren despite all the "family lore".

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (GUBah)

566 Oh hon, I've been in therapy since 1991. Not group, unfortunately. Just my lonely crazy self.

Probably because of that damn couch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (fiGNd)

567 Her IT guy took the 5th 125 times. Did Hillary take it more or less times?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (R+30W)

568 People *often* find a diet or routine works really well for *them* and think it's the One True Answer, but genetics, epigenetics, gut flora, intestinal health, allergies, auto-immune disorders - they all play into it.

I think this is key. Everyone's body reacts differently to diets. What works for you works for you, even if it doesn't for others.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (rwI+c)

569 Now let me get that cow patty off my boot

That won't happen until next January

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (6FqZa)

570 Grammie winger -- not meaning to joke but do you ever discuss dreams by any chance?

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)

571 Started to in HS... got terribly sick and missed a few weeks of school.. that's when the class was reading it.. teacher gave me a pass and an easier book to read to pass the class. Just never got around to it. I know... I'm hanging my head in shame.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (CNHr1)


Ehh, that's okay. As long as you've seen Big Trouble in Little China, it's okay.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (wB8Tg)

572 Batman: JK Simmons will play Commissioner Gordon. Maybe he's on Wolverine's gym routine for how jacked he is now. Because Zack Snyder.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 07, 2016 08:36 PM (q6C1L)

573
Sorry to be so OT out of the blue. Dad and I have been doing a lot of research on the family this past year. It's been frustrating and wonderfully gratifying at the same time.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (+eR2D)
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Ancestry.com? Amazing and scary. They've digitized the "F" you got on a math test, and they'll know if you smoke in bed.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:36 PM (5o5ek)

574 I don't know....maybe it's just calorie discipline. That said, after two years of being laid up by an accident and gaining weight, I'll be doing it again soon.

I ate like this for years, and got very very thin despite plenty if splurging. In fact I got literally yelled at by one doc for being too thin. He yood me to,eat peanut butter crackers. I stayed a rail for years until some drunk driver hit my car. It took time but I really gained and need to be in the fast zone again.

Posted by: Sarahw at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (Sp1NT)

575 Good evening all.

So, I went into a federal building in D.C. today and the nice gentleman at the x-ray machine noticed a knife in my purse. "Knife? What knife?".

Turns out I'd brought a 12" knife to work when I brought in a birthday cake and totally forgot about it being in my purse. Forgot about it for about two weeks, to be exact. So I've also been bringing it in to MY federal agency too.

Tomorrow I'm putting my mini crossbow in my purse, because YOLO.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (jR7Wy)

576 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)

I have psoriatic arthritis, so I feel your pain. Literally.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (0mRoj)

577 I fast once a month for church. It can be tough but you get used to it. I'm assuming you can drink water when practicing Intermittant Fasting (I haven't watched the videos). Fasting for religious reasons, I don't drink water either. That gets tough.

Posted by: BearGrylls at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (GMQML)

578 JK Simmons is so over-done. I'm sick of that guy.

He's in EVERY gotdamn thing. Enough.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (qUNWi)

579 Kimchi is a must for lowering blood sugar & dropping weight.

Posted by: #1lurker at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (eaj8w)


Well, that's it. I'm dead.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (wB8Tg)

580 One of my favorites Merovign!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (CNHr1)

581 558

See. They didn't put her under oath. So she could lie

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (zOTsN)

++++

It is a crime to lie to the FBI, even if you are not under oath. Theoretically (ha!), she was in legal jeopardy, so the 5th would have been appropriate if answering a question would incriminate her.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (R+30W)

582 >>>Right. The only people who irresponsible or
disgusting things live in Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my
own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through
buck naked when I get hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)



Don't feel bad. I spend all day eating cheesesteaks while running up
the Art Museum steps, all the while throwing D-cell batteries at
strangers booing Santa Claus.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:27 PM (7qAYi)<<<

Yeah, we've all been there. I've nevah pahked my cah in Havahd yahd. I do enjoy baked beans. Think Big Papi is wicked pissah, and that Tom Brady got screwed. But I'm definitely no moonbat, and despise Senator Sit-In Bull and Little Lord Ketchup.

Posted by: a MAron at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (H9MG5)

583 >>>A couple of questions.
1) What are you doing to get through the plateau?

Harder core IF (warrior diet). Shrinking the eating window to one meal a day for a while.

2) Did you swear off artificial sweeteners & coffee like Atkins says too? I didn't and wonder if that's been a stumbling block for me.

I've reduced artificial sweeteners but have not given them up.


3) Do you see intermittent fasting as a rest-of-your-life thing or just until you reach your goal weight?

it's easy enough to do for the rest of your life. the 16/8 plan is pretty easy. The only temptation for me is I get snacky at night sometimes, especially for cheese (which knocks me out like ambien).

Other than that, it's not hard to do, so I don't know why I'd stop, except for the typical let-it-all-go-to-hell sort of impulse.



Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (dciA+)

584 Anyway, the govt's dietary recommendations over the
last 40 years have probably killed more people prematurely that anything
else ever did.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)

You ain't seen nothing yet!

Posted by: New and Improved Hillery Care at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (P/kVC)

585 558

See. They didn't put her under oath. So she could lie
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (zOTsN)

Assuming she even really was interviewed. It's just as likely that was all bullshit.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (7qAYi)

586 Anyone who hasn't read 1984 needs to make it the next book on their list.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (2TUVm)

587 @567

We'll never know because apparently the new SOP for the FBI is to not record, video tape, audio record or otherwise transcribe subjects of inquirey in criminal investigations.

Apparently FBI agents have incredible powers of recall that are unempeachible under cross examination.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (Z/FKv)

588 Gowdy was masterful.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:31 PM


Indeed. I only wish after his running through the laundry list of lies he would have said to Comey: Then how in the fuck do you not prosecute that? There's a reason she lied and you caught her and you don't think that shows intent? Holy fuck! Sorry I am still just spitting mad and disgusted.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (EowmZ)

589 I suppose a longbow wouldn't fit

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (6FqZa)

590
Get one of the DNA tests run, it can be a real eye-opener.



Yeah, my dad is seriously considering having it done. He asked me if I wanted one too and I was like, "uh dad, unless there's something I don't know about, just have mom do one and I'll know my ancestry too."

It's been tough. His father was killed in the Battle of the Bulge, his mom never talked about him so my dad never knew very much about his family heritage. Dad started really getting into researching after he visited his dad's grave in Luxembourg about two years ago.

Last year, when my grandma died, we came upon a slew of photographs we had never seen from when my grandma dated and married my dad's father. We've been digging deeper ever since. We hit a roadblock about four generations back where we seem to lose the trail.

I think I'll encourage him again to do the DNA testing.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (+eR2D)

591 Inflammation is bad. Bad. I've got rheumatoid arthritis, which is big time inflammatory. Like Lupus and a bunch of other diseases, it's autoimmune, where your own stupid immune systems gets identification friend or foe mixed up and attacks your own tissue.

In my case, it attacks a protein found in your joints. In other cases, it attacks something else.

Anyway, constant inflammation is bad, and part of the metabolic syndrome, lard ass syndrome, is low level inflammation. I forget the details.

Anyway, the govt's dietary recommendations over the last 40 years have probably killed more people prematurely that anything else ever did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

So, claritin reduces inflammation -- when I go on it in the spring, my blood sugar score drops 10-15%.

Posted by: Jean at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (Doh4+)

592 Compared to the planet earth, the human body is a closed system, we can control most of the varibles. While there is only one planet, there are many, many humans to try out theories on, and then repeat those experiments on. And yet medical science has fucked it up big time wrt the whole carb/fat in the diet question, for decades.

Yet we are supposed to believe them when they are obviously winging it. You know how I know what science to trust? What works.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (I4EjO)

593 Tomorrow I'm putting my mini crossbow in my purse, because YOLO.

Shitty choice. Small longbow would be so much better. But if you want to do it wrong, knock yourself out. Might as well get one at the Nerf Store.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (fiGNd)

594 There are so many factors to health and nutrition, we are basically dealing with a shitload of people who understand a grain of sand and think they understand the beach.

People *often* find a diet or routine works really well for *them* and think it's the One True Answer, but genetics, epigenetics, gut flora, intestinal health, allergies, auto-immune disorders - they all play into it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (wB8Tg)
________

"Luck," in layman's terms.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (zwu5q)

595 She's plead the fifth as much as she's poured a fifth.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (q6C1L)

596 Tomorrow I'm putting my mini crossbow in my purse, because YOLO.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 07, 2016 08:37 PM (jR7Wy)


Just scratch out your name on your badge and write "Clinton" in with a crayon.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (wB8Tg)

597 564 Right. The only people who irresponsible or disgusting things live in
Florida. Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall,
smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get
hungry.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Did you remember to tip them by chucking a three gator through the window?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

We haven't had many three-headed gators since they shut down the Crystal River nuclear power plant.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (0mRoj)

598 BTW I haven't been on in some time, I see some regulars here and it seems like many are gone (sadly) I kind of left when it got ugly a few moths ago but I lover this place!

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (EowmZ)

599 Yeah, we've all been there. I've nevah pahked my cah in Havahd yahd. I do enjoy baked beans. Think Big Papi is wicked pissah, and that Tom Brady got screwed. But I'm definitely no moonbat, and despise Senator Sit-In Bull and Little Lord Ketchup.
Posted by: a MAron at July 07, 2016 08:38 PM (H9MG5)

Hey, how do you get to Woo-stah?

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (7qAYi)

600 On the remotely small chance that any clueless people bring it up in conversation (the mega-scandal that is the Clinton classified info crimes and the FBI's dereliction of duty), I plan to mention that one figure at the center of the activity took the 5th *125* times.


Just for color. Then casually refer to the blatant, systematic, known, violations of the Espionage Act, the Public Records Act, and other basic laws represented by all the actions which are known to have occurred.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (QDnY+)

601 Winging it wrt global warming, that is.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (I4EjO)

602 Jesus Christ! Life is too short for torturing yourself with fasting! Just move your butt a bit and stop shoving any food at hand into your piehole and you'll be fine (though you'll still be an idiot Trumpkin!).

Posted by: JoeC at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (bYdfC)

603 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)
===============================================


I'm sorry you're having to deal with auto-immune too. I know how painful RA is, believe me. I can relate to not knowing where your body might decide to self-destruct on any given day. I've had 2 grandmothers and 2 aunts die of Lupus. God has been good to me. When they told me I could never have children because of my lupus, God laughed. I have two.


My prayers are with you.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (dFi94)

604 589 ... Thumbs up.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (fiGNd)

605

See if you work for the state department, you will not be charged.

If you work for the military, you go to Leavenworth

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (zOTsN)

606 Well either chemjeff actually did get banned or there's someone here socking him whose getting banhammered.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (qUNWi)

607 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (KCxzN)

608 Didnt watch any of the videos. Because I 've been do ing this for 30 years. No breakfast except sometimes on weekend. 32 inch waist. 51 years old. Weight only goes up if I eat ice cream after 8 o clock at night. This absolutely works. I do drink coffee and put 2 percent milk in it. No snacks before lunch. Stay busy at work and you don't even notice. In two weeks you won't be that hungry til noon. Then you will kill your lunch. Don't skimp on the meals you do eat. If you want to drop more weight cut bread out. Completely.

Posted by: Simplemind at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM (1/dEZ)

609 "Luck," in layman's terms.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (zwu5q)


Given how poor our ability to measure these things is, it would seem to be luck just about all the time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (wB8Tg)

610 Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:31 PM

And yet, the next time the fbi wants some of that sweet OPM, Gowdy will vote "Yay".

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (WVsWD)

611 Anyone who hasn't read 1984 needs to make it the next book on their list.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (2TUVm)
________

I second that suggestion.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (zwu5q)

612 I would be leery about "curing" diabetes except for the fact that my own father was diagnosed with Type 2 about 10 years ago and he changed his diet to cutting out a lot of carbs and going in on more protein, veggies, etc. Type 1 you're not going to cure with any diet.

He doesn't have to take any medication for it and hasn't for years. It's effectively cured although he still goes into the doctor but basically that is just a check up. I think his doctor was pretty impressed probably because a lot of people just can't give up the carbs.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (4ErVI)

613 Well,that piece of shit All the Presidents Men is on TCM right now.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (B48dK)

614 For those worried about being hungry and hangry, when you eat high fat, your hunger will feel different -- not the gnawing, driving growling, but a minor nuisance that's easily ignored.

--

Rushbabe - that is one of the things I am so grateful about. I hated that desperate hunger feeling like I was going to die if I didn't have chips right now.
Now hunger feels like it did when I was a kid - I could eat but I could also keep playing.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (7lVbc)

615 Just scratch out your name on your badge and write "Clinton" in with a crayon.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (wB8Tg)
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They have to prove intent!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 07, 2016 08:43 PM (jR7Wy)

616 Your weight is all about how much you eat and how much you do physical work or exercise. All this stuff with trying to adjust your diet so that you can lose weight without working out is just running away from reality.

If you exercise a small amount (but good, vigorous exercise - to failure) then you should be able to eat like a normal person (and then some) and not gain weight. If you don't work out then you can have any sort of odd diet you want and it won't do a thing for you. Either you'll be skin and bones or you'll be fat.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:43 PM (zc3Db)

617 There's a fellow who's sure
All that bounces is gold
So he's chasing Winona Ryder...
And when he gets her he knows
If the boobs are all old
With a doc she can get them uplifted
Oooh ooh ooh ooh and he's chasing Winona Ryder...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 08:43 PM (+b2T3)

618 And yet, the next time the fbi wants some of that sweet OPM, Gowdy will vote "Yay".

Yep ... and many here will echo the sentiment.

Friendly thread ... think I'll shuffle off before I make it worse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 08:43 PM (fiGNd)

619 We hit a roadblock about four generations back where we seem to lose the trail.

I think I'll encourage him again to do the DNA testing.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (+eR2D)


A similar thing happened with a cousin's husband. He had a paperwork trail going back, but ran into a point about four generations back where the DNA didn't match. He got so frustrated he brought in a pro genealogist. Finally they figured out that the DNA that was throwing the results off matched the neighbor's.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (GUBah)

620 563 Inflammation is bad. Bad. I've got rheumatoid arthritis, which is big time inflammatory. Like Lupus and a bunch of other diseases, it's autoimmune, where your own stupid immune systems gets identification friend or foe mixed up and attacks your own tissue.

In my case, it attacks a protein found in your joints. In other cases, it attacks something else.

Anyway, constant inflammation is bad, and part of the metabolic syndrome, lard ass syndrome, is low level inflammation. I forget the details.

Anyway, the govt's dietary recommendations over the last 40 years have probably killed more people prematurely that anything else ever did.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:34 PM (DW+jj)


Curcumin, Astaxanthin, Lecithin, and Collagen. Give them all a try and see what happens. Maybe one of them won't work for you, but I'm betting at least one of them does. Definitely start taking collagen though because that's the protein the inflammation is attacking I think.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (4ErVI)

621
Chemjeff is not banned. He can alway pop back in. What I hate when people rag on people who are banned and cant defend themselves.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (iQIUe)

622 There's no need to do fad diets. Just be smart.

I keep skinny and healthy by avoiding crappy food and sugar. By that I mean processed food. I eat meat, veggies, fruit, all the fat and butter I want. I also eat occasinal deserts but only if they are naturally sweetened. Ice cream is a good example. If it's natural ice cream, ie not 1000 additives, it's not really that bad for you. If it's Breyer's or some other mass processed ice cream, awful.

Look at the ingredients when you buy packaged foods. If it's more than 3 or 4, put it back on the shelf. If you can't pronounce it or don't know what it is, don't eat it.

Now this is going to be expensive since good food costs more than bad food. And it will take some control since if you want pizza you'll have to spend time making it instead of calling Domino's. And yes home made pizza can be a very healthy meal.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (0LHZx)

623 Grammie winger -- not meaning to joke but do you ever discuss dreams by any chance?

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
=============================================

I often do have very memorable dreams. I always tell my family but I don't remember mentioning them here.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (dFi94)

624 Chemjeff is not banned. He can alway pop back in. What I hate when people rag on people who are banned and cant defend themselves.

Somebody is apparently socking him and getting hammered then.

Chemjeff? You out there?

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (qUNWi)

625 Curcumin, Astaxanthin, Lecithin, and Collagen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (4ErVI)

That sounds like some of the early Holy Roman Emperors.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (7qAYi)

626 [pi]I keep skinny and healthy by avoiding crappy food and sugar.

Aren't you also like 30 years old? At 30 I ate crap and drank a six pack of tall boys a day and I was a rock. After 50, not so easy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (rwI+c)

627 >>>Hey, how do you get to Woo-stah?

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:40 PM (7qAYi)<<<

See, I jump on the Pike and head east, 'cause I'm actually more on what Fauxcahontas would call the "Western Coast" of the state.

Posted by: a MAron at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (H9MG5)

628 I would be leery about "curing" diabetes except for the fact that my own father was diagnosed with Type 2 about 10 years ago and he changed his diet to cutting out a lot of carbs and going in on more protein, veggies, etc. Type 1 you're not going to cure with any diet.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:42 PM (4ErVI)


Well, in the case I mentioned (and an unknown number of other cases, because "type 2 diabetes" is actually a symptom caused by a variety of conditions), the cause was a defective portion of the small intestine (or damaged, I guess) that sent incorrect signals to the body. Once it was gone, the "symptom" vanished. For the last couple of years at least.

Who knows if it will recur because that *damage* was the result of *another* condition.

The Germans and the Indians are working on this line of research now, but they seem worried there isn't a lot of money in it like an injection or pill or "artificial pancreas."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (wB8Tg)

629 dammit, format fail.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (rwI+c)

630 I often do have very memorable dreams. I always tell my family but I don't remember mentioning them here.

No -- I meant in therapy. I'm wondering if therapists use dreams nowdays.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (qUNWi)

631 586 Anyone who hasn't read 1984 needs to make it the next book on their list.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 08:39 PM (2TUVm)


We found it a very useful instruction manual.

Posted by: George Soros, the folks at Davos, and the Uniparty at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

632 Thank you Ace. Being a moron for years may save me from dying from Type 2. Saw Fung's book mentioned on a book thread and investigated. Off my meds now, sugar under control, loosing belly fat and feel great.

Cannot thank your blog enough.

Posted by: sarge2909 at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (+OcJ/)

633 Life is too short for torturing yourself with fasting! Just move your butt a bit and stop shoving any food at hand into your piehole and you'll be fine (though you'll still be an idiot Trumpkin!).

Posted by: JoeC at July 07, 2016 08:41 PM
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It's not torture for some people. And it's not political. Some people have to bring politics and Donald Trump into everything. Sad!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (zwu5q)

634 That sounds like some of the early Holy Roman Emperors.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (7qAYi)


LOL!

I believe it was Pope Collagen IV who presided over the Council of Niacin in 526 AD.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (4ErVI)

635 You know who NEVER concerns themselves with fasting?

Us! We just consume ourselves from the inside-out.

Posted by: the Holy Cankles of Clinton at July 07, 2016 08:48 PM (8rmdN)

636 >>> SERIOUS QUESTION:

How can I incorporate my 6 beers-a-day into this?

Because alcoholic.

...

not really. beer has carbs, and furthermore, alcohol depresses metabolism and thus causes weight gain.

There are low carb beers like Mic Ultra or Miller light but they have 6 or 7 carbs each beer, and that will add up.

People on this diet usually limit alcohol and when they do have it they tend to have dry red wine (low carb, or low-ish) or else have something like a vodka and diet coke (vodka is low carb).

Red wine is preferable because there's some evidence that red wine is healthy.

But either way, you really would have to reduce alcohol. Not down to zero, but reduced. I think you'd see some benefit even with six bottles of beer a day, but it's going to be a big obstruction in your path.


And as they say, it's not just the alcohol, it's the eating choices you make when willpower is dulled by alcohol.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 08:48 PM (dciA+)

637 Chemjeff is not banned. He can alway pop back in.
What I hate when people rag on people who are banned and cant defend
themselves.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM


So it's ok to discuss the Chemjeff Steak Diet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 07, 2016 08:48 PM (OF/aZ)

638 Aren't you also like 30 years old? At 30 I ate crap and drank a six pack of tall boys a day and I was a rock. After 50, not so easy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:46 PM (rwI+c)

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I'm north of 40. I'm in better shape today than I was when I was 30 and ate nothing but junk.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:48 PM (0LHZx)

639 >>Hell, I spend every day smearing my own feces on the wall, smoking meth then going through the drive-through buck naked when I get hungry.
Posted by: Insomniac

Everyone needs a hobby.

Posted by: Aviator at July 07, 2016 08:49 PM (c7vUv)

640 It's not rocket science. Eating a lot of sugar makes you fat. Processed food is full of sugar. Therefore don't eat processed foods (or avoid it as much as you can). You don't need to starve yourself, or fats or count points or any of that shit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:50 PM (0LHZx)

641
there is no format
there is no format

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:50 PM (5o5ek)

642 No -- I meant in therapy. I'm wondering if therapists use dreams nowdays.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:47 PM (qUNWi)
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Oh. No, I may have mentioned dreams conversationally, but not therapeutically. We talk about real stuff like how to not pass out during a panic attack and drive your car off a bridge. That sort of thing.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:50 PM (dFi94)

643 "So it's ok to discuss the Chemjeff Steak Diet?"

Ketchup is really good on a burnt Steak. Add in some crispy Fries smothered in Mayo.

Yum!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 08:51 PM (WVsWD)

644 Moo Moo -- I think that works for you, but not everybody.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 08:51 PM (qUNWi)

645 Speaking of exercise, I'm going to the gym. Catch y'all later.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 08:51 PM (GUBah)

646 I'm in better shape today than I was when I was 30 and ate nothing but junk.

So it works for you. You should keep doing it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 08:51 PM (rwI+c)

647 Vodka is zero carbs, I believe.

Avoid the flavored ones of course.

Any clear liquor is ok. The colored stuff is loaded with sugars.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 07, 2016 08:51 PM (4ErVI)

648 This high fructose corn syrup is another thing. It's in everything now, even shit like Nyquil and stuff like that. You can blame govt. policies for that, too, with sugar protection.

There was a debate if HFCS was really much worse for humans that sucrose. I believe it is, and I remember some damned study that lots of fructose messes up something in the brain that regulates metabolism. So it's not a direct effect, but a secondary effect.

Anyway, occasionally, Big Soft Drink will put out "real sugar" versions of the soft drinks, and you'll find it in the stores every so often. I remember a Pepsi that tasted like it used to back when I was a kid. The taste actually stimulated childhood memories.

Anyway, if you can get yourself weened off the high sugar shit, you'll be amazed at how sickly sweet most drinks, soft and so-called fruit juices taste. They'll be so sweet it will make you sick.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:52 PM (DW+jj)

649 When the Sexbots are a factor in life, there won't be any worries. What will you name yours? And no stripper names.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 08:52 PM (6Ll1u)

650 A similar thing happened with a cousin's husband. He
had a paperwork trail going back, but ran into a point about four
generations back where the DNA didn't match. He got so frustrated he
brought in a pro genealogist. Finally they figured out that the DNA that
was throwing the results off matched the neighbor's.


Posted by: Country Singer at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM (GUBah)



Anything is possible. At this point, my family tree looks like spaghetti, lol.

Four generations back, the family just seems to disappear. Doesn't show up in the census...nothing. It is possible that we may have changed names (again) but who knows.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:52 PM (+eR2D)

651
there is no format
there is no format
Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:50 PM (5o5ek)
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(stumbling into the light)

Square brackets.

IT'S NOTHING BUT UP FROM HERE!!!

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:52 PM (5o5ek)

652 It's not rocket science. Eating a lot of sugar makes you fat. Processed food is full of sugar. Therefore don't eat processed foods (or avoid it as much as you can). You don't need to starve yourself, or fats or count points or any of that shit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:50 PM (0LHZx)


If you are an active person you can eat mouthfuls of sugar and nothing but processed foods ground and molded into little ducks or geometric figures and you won't gain weight.

It's more about how much you work than what you eat.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:53 PM (zc3Db)

653 1984? You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2016 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

654 Winona?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 08:54 PM (+b2T3)

655 So, vodka is ok but bourbon is right out?

*looks at Manhattan*

Oh well.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 08:54 PM (+eR2D)

656 If you are an active person you can eat mouthfuls of
sugar and nothing but processed foods ground and molded into little
ducks or geometric figures and you won't gain weight.



It's more about how much you work than what you eat.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:53 PM (zc3Db)


Activity covers a multitude of dietary sins.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 07, 2016 08:54 PM (J+mig)

657 I believe it was Pope Collagen IV

From the Empty Quarter's heart, I spit at thee!

Posted by: Isis JV at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (OF/aZ)

658 >>>> Chemjeff is not banned. He can alway pop back in.
What I hate when people rag on people who are banned and cant defend
themselves.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 08:44 PM
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So it's ok to discuss the Chemjeff Steak Diet?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 07, 2016 08:48 PM (OF/aZ)
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I'm really sorry for having brought up chemjeff and steak. It was meant to be a light hearted comment. I didn't intend to set people off about him. I know one person here who has met him personally and had nothing bu kind things to say about the guy.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (6IPEM)

659 Being adopted, I've thought about checking out one of those ancestry sites. I'm curious about where I really came from.

Do they respect my privacy? I don't want total strangers contacting me, even if they are long-lost relatives.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (sdi6R)

660 Bourbon is always GOOD.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (+b2T3)

661 As far as exercising....

I don't ever "exercise", ie go to the gym and run on a treadmill for an hour. But I am active. I ski in winter. I play golf in summer (and walk not ride). I hike, I walk my dogs every day, I cut the lawn myself, with a push mower. I live out in the boonies so I pretty much have to drive everywhere. But if I lived in town, I'd walk or ride my bike as much as I could to get around.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (0LHZx)

662 I ain't gonna lie. What comes off in a month when you're thirty comes only half-way off and takes 4 months when you're 60. And if you're a woman, it might take 7 months.


Bodies change. Don't expect them not to.


Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (dFi94)

663 So chemjeff benefits from illegals? Not surprised, but disappointed. Before I thought he was just afflicted with liberal cognitive impairment on that issue. Now he's just another person, like the GOPers, willing to see their country harmed for the sake of personal gain.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 08:56 PM (I4EjO)

664 Activity covers a multitude of dietary sins.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 07, 2016 08:54 PM (J+mig)


A good part of the reason for being active is to be able to enjoy the tastiest foods to your heart's content.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:56 PM (zc3Db)

665
Do they respect my privacy? I don't want total strangers contacting me, even if they are long-lost relatives.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (sdi6R)
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There are privacy settings at ancestry.com so you can search and build trees but no one can see them.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 08:56 PM (5o5ek)

666 Evil?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (LuZz8)

667 656 If you are an active person you can eat mouthfuls of
sugar and nothing but processed foods ground and molded into little
ducks or geometric figures and you won't gain weight.



It's more about how much you work than what you eat.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:53 PM (zc3Db)

____

That's not true at all.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (0LHZx)

668
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (LuZz8)

669 There is a persistent myth out there that ethanol is "like sugar" in the body. It's not. The metabolism of it is something totally different, and it has no glycemic response or insulin response at all. Period.

Now, the liver will prioritize the metabolism of it, and that will let blood sugar drop, all other factors being equal. This makes you hungry. And tend to stuff your face with lots of fast carbs, if available.

It's the carbs that give you a beer belly, not the alcohol.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (DW+jj)

670 >>A couple of questions

Ace I don't use artificial sweeteners of any kind and don't use any of the faux recipies for pizza ect although I'm an excellent cook.

My theory being that you can't have one foot in & one foot out.

I also saw my weight loss increase when I gave up the diet soda for sparkling mineral water.

Good spices are the key to making what you eat delicious. I also cook my meats in Amish rolled butter.

I don't fast and have gone through two plateaus followed by a immediate 10 or so pound loss.

The key for me is that due to the diabetes scare I knew I had to make a lifestyle change & can't go back.

Once I put that in my mind plateaus weren't a big thing as I know the weight will eventually come off.

It's amassing how your thinking changes once you decide that certain foods are out of your life forever. Believe me when I tell you that food was a big part of my life. No I see it in utilitarian way. Nothing more. There is no end point or goal for me. This is my life now. And that has made it very easy.

Posted by: #1lurker at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (eaj8w)

671 @588

The infuriating thing is that Comey is adding in of his own accord the component of intent.

Intent is not a requirment of the statue.

It's like if you go 56 in a 55.

While a cop can never really know if you intended to exceed the speed limit it doesnt fucking matter because going 56 in a 55 is sufficient to fucking ticket you and for you to have to pay a fine for going over the speed limit.

Go to traffic court and try to fight a ticket by telling the judge, yes your honor I was doing 56 in a 55 but I didn't intend to.


It's all so maddening.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (Z/FKv)

672 That's not true at all.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (0LHZx)


Is, too!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (zc3Db)

673 I think Bourbon is loaded with sugar. It's yummy though. I love beer but had to stop drinking it. i drink vodka instead

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:59 PM (6IPEM)

674 662 I ain't gonna lie. What comes off in a month when you're thirty comes only half-way off and takes 4 months when you're 60. And if you're a woman, it might take 7 months.


Bodies change. Don't expect them not to.


Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (dFi94)

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I don't think anyone is under the illusion that what you say won't happen. My point is that if you develop a healthy lifestyle in your 30s or 40s, by the time you hit 50 or 60 or 70 and maintain that lifestyle, you'll be fine. If you eat like shit and then at 60 decide oh I better lose some weight....ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:59 PM (0LHZx)

675 If you think of a star system as a cell, which is kind of only vaguely justifiable, the human body makes the Milky Way Galaxy look like a tinkertoy.

The number of chemical interactions and physical interactions is just completely insane and almost impossible to comprehend.

And, on top of that, you aren't even really an *organism*, you're a *colony*. A significant percentage of your DNA isn't even related to you, because you're colonized by symbiotic (and parasitic) organisms.

You want to see how simple it is? Change the balance of that bacterial colonization. It has a *dramatic* effect on your health, and can kill you.

Those "fecal bacteria clinics" sound like an ONT joke, but the results are not a joke. Mind you, they're still guessing and just have collections that seem to work and some that don't, because we're talking at least hundreds of species.

And that's one of many factors affecting metabolism and response to what you eat.

It's really not simple.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 07, 2016 08:59 PM (wB8Tg)

676 672 That's not true at all.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (0LHZx)

Is, too!


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (zc3Db)

____

LOL. Ny-uh! No takebacks. So there.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:59 PM (0LHZx)

677 Walking dog will keep you lean and it's good for the dog. Eat and then nice long walk (an hour or so) and insulin spike goes down and dog sleeps through the night and you can talk to your dog about how much he is going to like Winona and when she cuddles him it will be all soft because boobies and she will smell nice and another 50 minutes or so of that and you don't post it to smart mil-blogs.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 09:00 PM (+b2T3)

678 Seriously,

I always thought that if you exercise off more calories than you take in, you would lose weight.

Sign of the times, I guess.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:00 PM (WVsWD)

679 in Israel they are developing a vaccine for diabetes. no kidding

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:00 PM (zOTsN)

680 >>>Evil?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2016 08:57 PM (LuZz<<<

I sense you didn't intend that, so it's ok.

Posted by: FBI Director James Comestain at July 07, 2016 09:01 PM (H9MG5)

681 I always thought that if you exercise off more calories than you take in, you would lose weight.


yet we all know people who eat for shit, don't exercise and remain thin. There's always more going on than we think, and it's individualized.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (rwI+c)

682 Processed foods add sugar because sugar is yummy. And to get you to keep buying it they make it super duper yummy. But it's a fake type of yummy based on sugar. True good food is yummy without sugar. But again, it costs more if you buy it and/or takes a lot more time to make. That's really what it comes down to...do you have the wherewithal to commit to eating well which means spending more money and time to make it happen?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (0LHZx)

683 Hey is anybody else disturbed by the video of the shooting in MN. And What I mean by that is that the "girlfriend" was awful nonchalant about it when it went live. Weird to say the least. She did not seem upset at all. Kinda matter of fact?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (Ozsfq)

684

Moo

you hit 50, you eat and drink and exercise the same way, you will pile on pounds

truth

after 50 you have to change how you eat

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (zOTsN)

685 Nobody listens to me so I will say it again for no reason. Low carb until you are about 10 off your goal weight. Go to shelter and get a hyper dog. Then low carb during week ( beer allowed) and anything you want on weekends. walk 5 miles a day everyday and you will lose another 10 to 15 then maintain. I will never be overweight again. I swear by it

Posted by: Molly k. at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (YUgLc)

686 On High Fructose Corn Syrup:

straight sugar, table sugar, cane sugar, is sucrose, which is a disaccharide made from one molecule of glucose and one molecule of fructose. Hence it is 50% gluclose and 50% fructose.

High fructose corn syrup has slightly higher fructose -- it's 55% fructose and 45% glucose.

Yes it has slightly more fructose, but it's still basically the same as "good" sugar (sucrose).

It has marginally more fructose. So it is marginally worse.

The idea that there are "good sugars" and "bad sugars" is more dangerous than HFCS itself.

All sugar is pretty bad and should be greatly reduced.

Sure, it tastes awesome. But it's very bad for people, especially in the outlandish quantities people in civilized countries eat it in.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:03 PM (dciA+)

687
It's all so maddening.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM (Z/FKv)
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Yes. So now we vanquish the FAB at the polls.

Truthfully, I'd just as soon the job was done by millions of ordinary Americans like me, not Mr. Elite Cop.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:04 PM (5o5ek)

688 So, it's safe to say that Eman is now on the "Permanent Fast" plan?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 07, 2016 09:04 PM (dZGNV)

689 684

Moo

you hit 50, you eat and drink and exercise the same way, you will pile on pounds

truth

after 50 you have to change how you eat
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (zOTsN)

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Only if you've been eating poorly up to 50. That's my point. Develop healthy habits which are applicable at any age. Dieting never works at any age. Eating well works for all ages.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:04 PM (0LHZx)

690 Truthfully, I'd just as soon the job was done by millions of ordinary Americans like me


with tar and feathers

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:04 PM (rwI+c)

691 681 I always thought that if you exercise off more calories than you take in, you would lose weight.


yet we all know people who eat for shit, don't exercise and remain thin. There's always more going on than we think, and it's individualized.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (rwI+c)

I have a relative like that. Eats like a horse, doesn't exercise, remains a beanpole.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 09:05 PM (0mRoj)

692 Hey is anybody else disturbed by the video of the
shooting in MN. And What I mean by that is that the "girlfriend" was
awful nonchalant about it when it went live. Weird to say the least. She
did not seem upset at all. Kinda matter of fact?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (Ozsfq)

It was like it was just another wednesday night.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:05 PM (P/kVC)

693 It's all so maddening.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 08:58 PM
.Yep We're duly fucked. Breaking: Cops catch man going 60 in a 50 and running a red light. The man claimed he was never speeding nor ever ran a red light. After the investigation showing dash cam video of the radar gun and a red-light camera showing him running said light. The police chief today decided that there was no clear intent to speed or run a red light. And while he felt the man was naughty for speeding and running the light, he refused to charge the man.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 09:06 PM (EowmZ)

694 You want to do a proper CICO? You'll need to do it under laboratory conditions. Every damn ounce of stuff you shove in the pie hole must be measured. Everything. You resting metabolic rate will need to be measured all the time as well, because it will change with diet and "hunger stress".

Your exercise level will need to be measured as well. Unless you're Michael Phelps or something like that, your exercise level is going to be a small fraction of your energy requirements.

In the real world, you don't measure what you eat, it's near impossible. People tend to underestimate what goes in, and overestimate their energy output. By a lot.

We all have a feeback mechanism that canr regulate our body weight well. Fast carbs and sugar fuck that mechanism up big time, that much is quite evident.

Look at all the wild animals out there. Do they count calories or measure exercise levels? No, they've got a natural feedback mechanism.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:06 PM (DW+jj)

695 All sugar is pretty bad and should be greatly reduced.

Sure, it tastes awesome. But it's very bad for people, especially in the outlandish quantities people in civilized countries eat it in.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:03 PM (dciA+)

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And not to beat the dead horse too much.....processed foods add a fuckton of sugar. All processed foods. The ones that do it the most are LOW FAT foods. Which is fucking criminal...they reduce far which is good for you and replace it with sugar which is bad for you. And this is somehow supposed to make you skinny and healthy.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:06 PM (0LHZx)

696
in Israel they are developing a vaccine for diabetes. no kidding
Posted by: ThunderB


They really are into shape shifting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

697 >>>236 4) Cold showers.

--

?
Posted by: @votermom a

...

Cold showers have two good effects:

1. Any time you make yourself cold, your body must expend calories to get your internal temperature back up.

2. Cold showers are thought to stimulate testosterone. Testosterone -- in both men and women -- promotes leaning and muscle growth. (Estrogen promotes gaining fat, again, in both men and women.)

as a general rule both men and women with weight problems should seek ways to increase their testeosterone/estrogen ratio.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (dciA+)

698 Diet as a factor in human longevity is right up there with Climate Change. Pseudoscience.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (2TUVm)

699 @687

We will vanquish that criminal cunt bitch at the polls, but it is still extremely scary to watch the nations top lawman dissemble on live TV.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (Z/FKv)

700

Moo

that isnt true. Talk to me when you get there. In his 20s and 30s my husband had trouble keeping ON weight. Always been very keen on exercise. Up at 5:00 every morning to work out. Always ate in a very disciplined manner, because it made hi feel good

ate very little carbs, lots of veggies and protein.

After 50, he only eats fish during the week, no carbs

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (zOTsN)

701 Other things being equal (i.e. individual circumstances/issues taken into account), I think it really *is* best to how much activity/exercise can be maximized as a component of an overall package.


Stress reduction, mood improvement, prolonging flexibility, mobility, and the health of your back and key joints - all of these are likely results from almost any level of "exercise". Quite apart from weight loss.


Vigorous walking (with almost no impact issues for joints) provides something like 70% of the cardio stimulus provided by jogging.


Moo Moo touched on a key aspect - incorporate exercise into daily and otherwise useful or fun activities and chores. Two birds, or more, with one stone.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:08 PM (QDnY+)

702 I am not doing the paleo diet. All my ancestors were on it and they are all dead!

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 09:08 PM (EowmZ)

703 I like bread. It's my curse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:08 PM (rwI+c)

704 I'm really sorry for having brought up chemjeff and steak. It was meant to be a light hearted comment. I didn't intend to set people off about him. I know one person here who has met him personally and had nothing bu kind things to say about the guy.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 08:55 PM (6IPEM)

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No one has trashed or attacked him. Are we not allowed to disagree with him?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (iQIUe)

705 >>>fuckton

Is that a new scientific term?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (voOPb)

706
with tar and feathers
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:04 PM (rwI+c)
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One big surgical chomp from Comey vs tens of millions of little bites from PO'd patriots.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (5o5ek)

707 Florida Congressional Representative Corrine Brown has been indicted by a federal grand jury... she should have sent more contributions to the Clinton family fund and said so in an e-mail to Hill's server.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (P/kVC)

708 I love a cold shower.

After working on the factory floor for 8 hours in 95+ degree heat, the best thing ever is a cold shower when I get home.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (+eR2D)

709
558

See. They didn't put her under oath. So she could lie
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 08:33 PM (zOTsN)
Nope, still a crime to lie to the FBI even if not under oath, so they don't make anyone take an oath. That was probably the only valid legal point Director Barney Fife pointed out today BTW, when it came out he sent his underlings & he didn't even bother to conduct the FBI interview himself. But HilLiary didn't need to lie because the softball questions asked were already asked & counselled & answered as non incriminating prior to her FBI interview. Legtrunks gave Bubba the crib notes last week on a plane.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (yNyJy)

710 The idea that there are "good sugars" and "bad sugars" is more dangerous than HFCS itself.

--

What I want to know is - have saturated fats, and animal fats, been unfairly demonized as well?
I can understand transfats being bad, but I bet saturated fats are ok.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (7lVbc)

711 only carbs he eats no is maybe a half cup of brown rice and beans

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (zOTsN)

712 The Imperial Fuckton is an ancient and venerable measure. The Metric Fuckton is an abomination.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (rwI+c)

713 I am trying intermittent slowing.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (EowmZ)

714 >>>fuckton



Is that a new scientific term?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (voOPb)

Conceptual unit of measure. Opposite of RCH.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (P/kVC)

715 It's more about how much you work than what you eat.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 08:53 PM (zc3Db)

____

That's not true at all.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 08:57



Yeah, I'm pretty sure diet has a much bigger impact on weight gain than exercise. Think how long you need to walk or run, just to burn off a doughnut.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (I4EjO)

716 and he still makes cholesterol like a butter churn

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (zOTsN)

717 I have been doing IF since Aug. 2013
LeanGains Protocol.
But it isn't the magic bullet that people make it out to be.
It still comes down to calories in vs. calories out.
If I only need 2500 calories daily to maintain my current weight, then if I eat 3000 calories daily, I will put on weight.

Plus your body goes through a calorie surplus and calorie deficit throughout the day....
Anytime you have a meal, your body is in surplus till it has time to digest it and do what it needs with it.....then a few hours later you are in a deficit till you eat again.
So then by the end of the day it comes down to was your calories in deficit throughout the day or surplus

Posted by: Seth at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (oVFYr)

718 Agree with Molly except no hyper dogs. Get a GSD, lab or Rottie. Rottie and lab will have to be exercised or they'll get fat, GSD to keep its nails down. They all can go two walks a day for hour, plus guard your guns and likker.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (+b2T3)

719 708 I love a cold shower.

After working on the factory floor for 8 hours in 95+ degree heat, the best thing ever is a cold shower when I get home.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (+eR2D)
---
Welder by day, dancer by night.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (jR7Wy)

720 I'm extremely skeptical of any "cutting edge" fad diet stuff like carb cutting etc. But I do think that the biggest flaw in dieting is thinking that everyone's metabolism and body is exactly the same, so you can ram everyone through the same hole in the pegboard, no matter what shape they are.

Maybe low Carb works for you. But not for her, maybe she needs just to cut out sugar. And that guy? He needs more starches. We're all different and what we need varies, and any diet/nutritional plan that cannot take that into account is going to fail for a lot of people no matter how hard they try.

The basic, simple key is: eat healthy and exercise. That works for everyone, everywhere, every time, if they can do it. I don't even care what you read or think. But what's healthy for you might be different than what's healthy for me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (39g3+)

721 707 Florida Congressional Representative Corrine Brown has been indicted by a federal grand jury... she should have sent more contributions to the Clinton family fund and said so in an e-mail to Hill's server.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM (P/kVC)

She has always been a colossal embarrassment to this state.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (0mRoj)

722 She's a maniac, maniac I know.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (rwI+c)

723 I've lost 20 lbs by eating nothing but Hillary's ass.

Posted by: James Comey at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (cmE8J)

724 Cake or Steak, Sugar or Sit-ups, none of us are getting out of here alive. I'm going to bed.


Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (dFi94)

725

the FBI does make witnesses swear to their statements

all the time

I wouldnt expect the Director to do the interview

1. He is not an investigator

2. He has to make the recommendation

they said before the interview that there was someone in there to transcribe it

so. did they?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

726 Is the site wobbling again or is it just me?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (rwI+c)

727 Sorry for joining in late.

I've been doing this intermittent fasting for years without even knowing it, I guess. When I started high school I just stopped eating breakfast, since my schedule was so jam packed I was pretty much on the go from 6 am on. I also started my body getting used to 4 hours of sleep per night, and I tell you in grad school that ability came in pretty handy.

And Ace is right - after a few weeks it was clear that I was just eating out of habit. In fact, when I went to the hospital a couple of years for surgery and had the nurses forcing me to eat 3 squares/day over the space of the week I was there, I actually gained weight. In the hospital.

So I think there's actually something to this theory.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (16TRA)

728
We will vanquish that criminal cunt bitch at the polls, but it is still extremely scary to watch the nations top lawman dissemble on live TV.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (Z/FKv)
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Scary and sad. At least we had a couple of lawmakers who pinned him like a bug and exposed his parasite-infested thorax for the permanent record.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (5o5ek)

729 724 Cake or Steak, Sugar or Sit-ups, none of us are getting out of here alive. I'm going to bed.


Posted by: grammie winger at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (dFi94)

Like I said earlier - eat right, exercise, die anyway.

Good night!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (0mRoj)

730 @Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (I4EjO)


That is correct.
If you wish to lose weight, you are far better to lower your calories than ramp up your exercise.

If I spend 35 min on stairmaster at a 91 SPM pace, I will burn around 400 calories....
A little Cheeseburger from Five Guys is >600 calories.

Posted by: Seth at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (oVFYr)

731 708 I love a cold shower.

After working on the factory floor for 8 hours in 95+ degree heat, the best thing ever is a cold shower when I get home.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:10 PM (+eR2D)

With a valu-rite on the rocks. Right lil Sis?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (voOPb)

732 Sure, indict the black lady but not the white women.

Raaaccciiiisssssmmmm!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (iQIUe)

733 What I want to know is - have saturated fats, and animal fats, been unfairly demonized as well?
I can understand transfats being bad, but I bet saturated fats are ok.

***

Yes.

http://bit.ly/172PFuF

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 07, 2016 09:15 PM (SEXy3)

734 >>>Vigorous walking (with almost no impact issues for joints) provides something like 70% of the cardio stimulus provided by jogging.


I have heard this. And I did "vigorous walking." the problem is that vigorous walking is actally really vigorous. It's a less-efficient gait than jogging, and tough to do do.

So I guess maybe this is true but it sort of misleads people. "Vigorous walking" is an athletic gait which is not the same as normal walking. It's takes a while to get up to actual vigorous walking speed.

I'm just saying that people think walking is easy but when you're talking about atheltic walking -- which is allegedly almost as cardio-intensive as jogging -- you are talking about something people don't realize you're talking about.

walking at a 13-15 minute mile pace is pretty tough and walkers won't hit that unless they're specifically timing themselves and fighting for a couple of months to increase their speed.

that said, any kind of walking is better than no walking.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:15 PM (dciA+)

735 I eat no breakfast and no lunch, then pig out at dinner. Every day. I also do physical work all day. When I started doing this last year (after being layed off from my office job and starting a landscape biz) I immediately lost 20 pounds, then stabilized. It does not bother me in the least to not eat all day, even doing physical labor. Contrast that with marathon training, which i did for a summer a few years ago. I lost a grand total of three pounds after a summer of running. So I'd have to say from personal experience that there's something to IF.

Posted by: Cornfed at July 07, 2016 09:15 PM (7U9RM)

736 Like I said earlier - eat right, exercise, die anyway.

but leave a good looking corpse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:15 PM (rwI+c)

737 they said before the interview that there was someone in there to transcribe it



so. did they?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:13 PM (zOTsN)


There's video, but it's pretty gruesome.

Posted by: James Comey at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (cmE8J)

738 Haven't watched the MN shooting video. However I did catch the unbelievably stupid governor of MN, Dayton, on a radio sound-bite.


Didn't this just happen what, yesterday? And here's the governor identifying "racism" as the cause. Jeebus.


The country is *so* dumbed-down, in almost all respects, that it's now probably just SOP for senior public officials to pronounce guilt, and their crime analysis, off the cuff, instantly, on cases with high public attention. Or to do the equally slimy, vile thing of race-baiting - say, by saying the deceased in a case about which nothing definitive is known "looked like" a son of his, if he had any sons.


Dayton was a stand-out dummy, even by Senate standards. He and Patty Murray dumbed up the place something fierce for a time.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (QDnY+)

739
Welder by day, dancer by night.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 07, 2016 09:12 PM (jR7Wy)]/i]


Yep, that's me! Ha!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (+eR2D)

740 >>>>> Are we not allowed to disagree with him?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:09 PM
----
Oh sure. I didn't agree with him on immigration and his generous attitude towards Muslims. It is like someone else pointed out (maybe it was you even? I don't remember who mentioned it). He isn't here to respond and someone has been socking him. That's the part I don't like. But it's the Internet and a blog comment section so it's what happens.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (6IPEM)

741
How come Corrine has to do the perp walk but Hills does not?

No justice! No peace!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (iQIUe)

742 Hey is anybody else disturbed by the video of the
shooting in MN. And What I mean by that is that the "girlfriend" was
awful nonchalant about it when it went live. Weird to say the least. She
did not seem upset at all. Kinda matter of fact?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:02 PM (Ozsfq)

It was like it was just another wednesday night.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:05 PM



And the video doesn't start until after the guy is shot. We don't get to see what was said, how it was said before that.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (wDzKm)

743 Yeah, I'm pretty sure diet has a much bigger impact on weight gain than exercise. Think how long you need to walk or run, just to burn off a doughnut.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 07, 2016 09:11 PM (I4EjO)


When you exercise the work your body does extends well beyond the actual time of the exercise.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (zc3Db)

744


Dayton is mental. Like seriously, a bit off. Slightly deranged. Had a breakdown

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (zOTsN)

745 The ones that do it the most are LOW FAT foods. Which is fucking criminal...they reduce far which is good for you and replace it with sugar which is bad for you. And this is somehow supposed to make you skinny and healthy.

***

See: Low-fat peanut butter

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (SEXy3)

746 Can exercise do other shit that's good for you? You bet. My damn blood pressure spiked a couple years ago. Got up to dangerous 180+ levels.

Now, you know what I found. With this damned arthritis, my activity levels ain't what they used to be. When I have to make myself do some hard work, which now happens only when I have, something critical breaks and I have to fix it, I've found that just a few hours of that, and my blood pressure will normalize.

In fact, if I take the same dose of the BP meds when I do it, it will get too low.

A few months ago, maybe closer to a year, the washing machine drain in the folks' house got too slow. Grease build up, I'm sure. It would overflow because it couldn't drain fast enough. Easiest solution was to run a new drain pipe. Which I did, with my 88 year old father "helping" as much as he could.

Nearly killed myself getting up under the house. But my blood pressure dropped to the 90s/50s, and the next day I didn't even take one pill for it. With inactivity, it will creep back up over the next few days.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (DW+jj)

747 that said, any kind of walking is better than no walking.





Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:15 PM (dciA+)


Fuck.

Posted by: Stephen Hawking at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (cmE8J)

748
How come Corrine has to do the perp walk but Hills does not?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (iQIUe)
------------------

Corinne is Black. In all seriousness, if I were her I'd scream racism and cite Hillary Clinton as evidence.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (5o5ek)

749 I got up to 240# (I'm 6') bought that Taubes book and within a month I lost 15#. I didn't eat more than 1200 calories a day.

But I plateaued after a few more months (lost 10 more#). Looked around the web and the consensus recommend was to pig out on carbs for a day, fast for a day and restart the diet, which worked.

I hit so many plateaus though that I grew tired of restarting the diet. So what I found works just as well is not eating more than 500 calories a day for a day or 2 (which sux).

I decided to take a break at #200 and just not obsess over carbs all the damn time and enjoy life. Did that for about 6 months.

Now I'm down to 190 and my goal is 180. I feel great and I'm never hungry but none of my clothes fit anymore so I have to buy new stuff.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (CbGSW)

750 *beep*

Posted by: Christopher Pike at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (rwI+c)

751 I hope Comey's chains rest lightly.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (2TUVm)

752 Dayton was a stand-out dummy, even by Senate standards. He and Patty Murray dumbed up the place something fierce for a time.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM (QDnY+)


And why call in the Justive Department? Have the MN State Police investigate it. Why does the fuckin Justice department have to get involved? It looks like a fucked up shooting to me. Let the State investigate. Not every incident is a federal offense

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:19 PM (Ozsfq)

753 Just by accident, BLM now has 2 shootings to protest in Cleveland, better call up reinforcements now. Aka a postal emergency, without snow or rain.sleet is optional

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 09:19 PM (wiBmd)

754 686
The idea that there are "good sugars" and "bad sugars" is more dangerous than HFCS itself.

All sugar is pretty bad and should be greatly reduced.

Sure, it tastes awesome. But it's very bad for people, especially in the outlandish quantities people in civilized countries eat it in.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:03 PM (dciA+)


Yep. In prehistoric times, people certainly enjoyed fruit and ate it avidly when it was in season.

Which was only a few weeks a year. Most of the time it was not available. They didn't have it 24/7/365 like we do.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 09:19 PM (sdi6R)

755 ace, points taken on the vigorous walking - was just trying to illustrate that there are many mundane ways of exercising that are beneficial.


Even normal walking - esp. if it can incorporate some hills - is excellent exercise, with almost no down-sides.


My main point was to advocate that people brainstorming strategies on weight and diet also try to incorporate exercise into their package - many may be surprised how many other benefits than calorie burn will flow from it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:20 PM (QDnY+)

756 Dayton was a stand-out dummy, even by Senate standards. He and Patty Murray dumbed up the place something fierce for a time.



Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:16 PM
....Don't even get me started on that POS he hasn't actually blinked since the Regan administration. Fucking idiot. It's like having Ozzy Osbourne as your governor, only he makes more sense.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 09:20 PM (EowmZ)

757 So i decided to try out the butter and coconut coffee. All I can say is it's definetly different.

Posted by: random lurker at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (+tRIN)

758 Hmmm.... Comey being blackmailed or coerced into this.

Possible?

Maybe he should start taking long walks in the park. He is looking kind of chunky.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (WVsWD)

759
Dayton has been to rehab a couple of times, had a mental breakdown

he is not well

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (zOTsN)

760 698 Diet as a factor in human longevity is right up there with Climate Change. Pseudoscience.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 09:07 PM (2TUVm)
To a certain extent, that is correct. It's called the Winston Churchill phenomenon. An obese guy that ate bangers & eggs every morning, drank & smoked daily, never exercised, had a high stress job - yet lived to age 92, which is not bad run for a guy.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (yNyJy)

761
I hope Comey's chains rest lightly.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (2TUVm)


It's more of a cock ring.

Posted by: James Comey at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (cmE8J)

762 >>>
When you exercise the work your body does extends well beyond the actual time of the exercise.

yes but they include the after-effects of elevated metaobolism in their calculation.

Jogging a mile is the equivalent of skipping two pieces of bread.

Exercise has great effects on health but it's not very useful for weight loss.

The fact is that people burn so many calories just sleeping or sitting on a couch -- just burning calories to run their bodily metabolism -- that adding exercise is a very marginal thing.

in addition, it's been proven (in studies where they track people's every move with accelerometers) that when people excercise, they reduce their movement throughout the rest of the day, canceling out a lot of the expected benefit of higher metabolic rates during exercise.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (dciA+)

763 It works. I've been on a roughly 24 hour fast for the last few years or so. Though I do drink too much coffee with sugar in it. No bread. Eat what I want and as much as I feel like. It wasn't a planned thing. Just fell into it. Been at a 30 inch waist for a while.

Posted by: otho at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (EWg9n)

764
With a valu-rite on the rocks. Right lil Sis?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (voOPb)



Actually, followed by a double bourbon Manhattan, big bro.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (+eR2D)

765 >>>Let the State investigate. Not every incident is a federal offense
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But it is when a black is shot. SOP of President Buttinski

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (voOPb)

766 Many people put on weight from not getting enough sleep. Good sleep is important to regeneration.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (rwI+c)

767
I dont know if it was a fked up shooting. The guy had a gun. He went for his ID after the cop ordered him not to bc he had no way of knowing if he was going for the ID or gun.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)

768 I think sugar is sweet and great. People should rub it on their teeth before they got to bed every night.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:22 PM (Ozsfq)

769 I don't exercise.

Posted by: otho at July 07, 2016 09:22 PM (EWg9n)

770 Sure, indict the black lady but not the white women.



Raaaccciiiisssssmmmm!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:14 PM (iQIUe)

I'd love it if BLM starts beating that drum.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:22 PM (P/kVC)

771 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (DW+jj)

Damnit publius, now you've convinced me to start exercising.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:23 PM (7lVbc)

772 Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (dciA+)

Strength training is superior to running. Unless it's sprinting. Sprinting is worthwhile.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 09:23 PM (R5HRU)

773
Corinne is Black. In all seriousness, if I were her I'd scream racism and cite Hillary Clinton as evidence.
Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:18 PM (5o5ek)
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On top of that, Trump should bring it up every time someone calls HIM a racist. He should challenge Hillary to prove 1) how much Obama respects her and 2) what a racial progressive she is by challenging her to call on Obama to immediately issue a presidential pardon to Corinne Brown.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:23 PM (5o5ek)

774 Incidentally, while it isn't as vigorous as physical activity, thinking burns calories rather significantly. Watching TV causes your brain to shut down quite a bit, but reading, writing, doing puzzles, engaging in conversations, etc all uses up a fair amount of energy and you can do it while recovering from exercising or on your day off.

Plus, exercising your brain helps you think faster and clearer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:24 PM (39g3+)

775 >>>
My main point was to advocate that people brainstorming strategies on weight and diet also try to incorporate exercise into their package - many may be surprised how many other benefits than calorie burn will flow from it.

i agree, it's just that this factoid you mention is deceiving, and it deceived me. I walked on the belief that it was "almost as good as jogging."

It isn't, not the way starting walkers will walk. And that can be a problem, because there's a notorious syndrome of people "Walking three miles and then eating like they ran a marathon," which I did myself at first.

The actual athletic walk that burns almost as many calories as jogging actually feels pretty much as tough as jogging as far as elevated heart rate and breathing rate.

What starting walkers do is really "ambling," which is fine, and gets you into shape to start to do an athletic walk, but it's not burning many calories.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:24 PM (dciA+)

776 I dont know if it was a fked up shooting. The guy
had a gun. He went for his ID after the cop ordered him not to bc he had
no way of knowing if he was going for the ID or gun.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)


Yeah, CCW shoot cops all the time.

Posted by: Stating The Obvious at July 07, 2016 09:25 PM (cmE8J)

777 Comey can look forward to a six figure pension and gold-plated taxpayer footed healthcare and other bennies. Being a high official of the Ruling Class pays well.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 07, 2016 09:25 PM (2TUVm)

778 Just what we need, another fad diet.

Here's an idea: Everything in moderation.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at July 07, 2016 09:25 PM (LQLeS)

779 >>>
Strength training is superior to running. Unless it's sprinting. Sprinting is worthwhile.

yeah i gotta get me some of that

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:26 PM (dciA+)

780 Maybe the reason blacks keep getting shot by da popo is because blacks don't listen to what da popo says. When da popo says, do this, do that. And chances are very good you will NOT get shot. When you do the opposite, chances decrease.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:26 PM (0LHZx)

781 Ace, I have Dr. Fung's book. Lost 8 lbs so far. The book is a great read. As a type 2 diabetic, he explained insulin and how it works as none of my GPs has done. Stick with it. The hunger pangs go away.

Jim

Posted by: F.N.G. at July 07, 2016 09:26 PM (kiSdp)

782 778 Just what we need, another fad diet.

Here's an idea: Everything in moderation.
Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at July 07, 2016 09:25 PM (LQLeS)

___

Good luck selling books and DVDs with that simple message.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (0LHZx)

783 See: Low-fat peanut butter

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 07, 2016 09:17 PM (SEXy3)
________

See also: Fat-free half and half.

(Btw, how much did you have to pay for your hash?)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (zwu5q)

784 in addition, it's been proven (in studies where they track people's every move with accelerometers) that when people excercise, they reduce their movement throughout the rest of the day, canceling out a lot of the expected benefit of higher metabolic rates during exercise.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (dciA+)


Could be. For me, I've found that one set of push-ups every day (to failure, not just messing around) is good enough to allow me to eat whatever I want. Just a personal anecdote that works for me, but I'm over 50 and have been wearing the same size pants since I started college. And I eat a very healthy amount, mostly consisting of meat, potatoes and lots of sugar and processed foods. But, for your side of the argument, I eat breakfast only occasionally and very often skip lunch, too. If I ever feel hungry I nosh on whatever is around or cook up a few burgers or hot dogs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (zc3Db)

785 Walk with a purpose, stretch out the length of stride. A 15 min mile is easy.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (XVTvT)

786 Running is awful for you, unless its to get away from a monster. Walking takes longer to get the same benefits but doesn't destroy your joints and feet, plus you can enjoy the time better. Every runner I've ever seen in 50 years of life looks miserable when they're running. Its not like the ads. They look like they're dying and wish they would just have a heart attack and get it over with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

787 @768 NGU

Love your dental humor

4 out of 5 dentists recommend it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (voOPb)

788 Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:26 PM (dciA+)

You'll be stunned at how everything accelerates once you start banging some weights around.

At one point in my life I was 375 and got down to 205. Now sadly I'm back to 280 but that's entirely on me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (R5HRU)

789

another after 50 tip. Running produces knee and ankle issues later in life.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (zOTsN)

790 NGU, of course you've noticed that there has been a ceaseless national effort to federalize every police issue involving blacks since Ferguson (or before?).


Like everything else, it's just more degradation of the civic culture and government. As usual, the poison of racism drenches every act of the feds.




Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (QDnY+)

791
it's been proven (in studies where they track people's every move with accelerometers) that when people excercise, they reduce their movement throughout the rest of the day, canceling out a lot of the expected benefit of higher metabolic rates during exercise.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:21 PM (dciA+)
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That's weird. I had a schedule once where I had insanely vigorous excercise from 7 - 8:30 every morning. I bounced around all energetic for the rest of the day. I've heard other people report the same. Morning exercise increases your energy and activity.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (5o5ek)

792 when you do the opposite, chances decrease.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:26 PM (0LHZx)


Yes, we need to view the police as dangerous animals and act appropriately, lest we cause them to shoot us.

Posted by: Stating The Obvious at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (cmE8J)

793 In college I lost 70# in 6 months on the Icehouse and peanut butter diet.

Do NOT do the Icehouse and peanut butter diet.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 07, 2016 09:29 PM (CbGSW)

794 Well, I was thinking about taking up running as mostly a form of stress relief, but that sounds like a bad idea now that I've read comments.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 09:30 PM (6IPEM)

795 I don't believe anything anyone says about what and how much they eat, including myself. When it it measured under laboratory conditions, I'll believe it then. Never otherwise.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:30 PM (DW+jj)

796 Every runner I've ever seen in 50 years of life looks miserable when they're running. Its not like the ads. They look like they're dying and wish they would just have a heart attack and get it over with.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

___

Funny. True.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:30 PM (0LHZx)

797 Thanks NDH

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:31 PM (7lVbc)

798 >>>781 Ace, I have Dr. Fung's book. Lost 8 lbs so far. The book is a great read. As a type 2 diabetic, he explained insulin and how it works as none of my GPs has done. Stick with it. The hunger pangs go away.

Jim

...

i've done it before. I lost 40 pounds last year on LCHF/IF. But then I went off it for eight months and gained almost 30 pounds back.

In my case, I didn't gain weight for a while when I went off the diet, but eventually I got my insulin out of wack again and then added it pretty quickly, over just three months.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:31 PM (dciA+)

799 Love your dental humor

4 out of 5 dentists recommend it
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (voOPb)


hey a guy's gotta eat.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:32 PM (Ozsfq)

800 You'll be stunned at how everything accelerates once you start banging some weights around.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (R5HRU)


Yep.

But, again I stress, real workouts - to failure. I used to see people at gyms who looked as fresh when they were done as when they walked in. That's no workout. You have to be spent at the end.

Most people who workout get to the hard part (which is the only part that counts) and then they stop. All the lifting in the first reps is just to get to the last rep you can't quite do!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 09:32 PM (zc3Db)

801 >>>You'll be stunned at how everything accelerates once you start banging some weights around.


i want to do the starting strength but I have real questions about how to safely perform the the squat, clean and jerk, etc.

i did horrible damage to my shoulders as a kid using poor form with the bench press, and I don't want to go through that again.

I guess I just need to pay a trainer.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)

802 786 Running is awful for you, unless its to get away from a monster.

Hah! Agreed.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:34 PM (7lVbc)

803 Pretty sure all anyone has to do is get up off their ass and move. It can't hurt. I have so many bad habits I should be on a plethera of meds but I'm not. If nothing else it's good for the mind. On a side note, I have never eaten bread unless it's bun for meat, I don't have a sweet tooth and could care less about chocolate so I low carb was easy for me. I know that's not the case for everyone.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 07, 2016 09:34 PM (YUgLc)

804 NGU, of course you've noticed that there has been a
ceaseless national effort to federalize every police issue involving
blacks since Ferguson (or before?).





Like everything else, it's just more degradation of the civic
culture and government. As usual, the poison of racism drenches every
act of the feds.











Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:28 PM (QDnY+)

Since July 16,2009 - Beer Summit.
Obama hit the ground running on that agenda.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 09:34 PM (P/kVC)

805 To me any diet (fad or otherwise) that causes you to lose a ton of weight quickly is a bad idea. If it takes 10 years to put on 40 lbs, it should take at least a year to take it off. If the diet you're on melts that 40 away in a matter of a few weeks, there's a 99% chance you'll put it back on within a short period of time. That's why diets never work. As soon as you stop the diet, the weight comes right back. On the other hand if you change your habits/lifestyle, you'll lose weight much more slowly but the loss will be more permanent.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:34 PM (0LHZx)

806 786 Running is awful for you, unless its to get away from a monster. Walking takes longer to get the same benefits but doesn't destroy your joints and feet, plus you can enjoy the time better. Every runner I've ever seen in 50 years of life looks miserable when they're running. Its not like the ads. They look like they're dying and wish they would just have a heart attack and get it over with.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

Bullshit.

My dad took up mountain running on a dare when he was just shy of 70 years old. He holds the record for Men 80 and over for Mt. Marathon, he lost about 30 lbs, and even after his stroke (not related to running), he does about three miles a day.

Running may be bad for certain people, and fine for others. Carrying extra weight may be bad for certain people, and fine for others. Low carb might be fine for certain people, and not so fine for others. Etc. Etc.

Find what works for you, and stick to it. Don't believe everything you read--always test it out before becoming a believer.

Moderation in all things, even occassionally moderation itself.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 07, 2016 09:34 PM (+YMhA)

807 ace, I'm puzzled about the studies that show reduced activity in the rest of the day by exercisers. If you work out, and then do what you always do the rest of the day (sedentary work or non-work) - isn't there a net increase in calorie burn?


If you just do sedentary work or non-work all day, no work-out, then ..... there you are, at your original level. Hard to picture how someone who goes for a swim in the morning does "less" the rest of the day, when they do what they were going to do anyway.


In any case, I mentioned walking as it's accessible to most people, and avoids the impact downsides others have mentioned above.


But I'll can my limited wisdom on diet and exercise and focus on my core competency, despair over out national calamity.



Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:35 PM (QDnY+)

808 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 09:32 PM (zc3Db)

Agreed. Gotta push yourself, ESPECIALLY after the lactic acid build up. That shit is the worst!

Hell it's part of the reason I haven't started lifting yet again. I will say this post is getting me motivated to start training seriously again.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 09:36 PM (R5HRU)

809 Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)

Do push-ups. It's cheaper, easier, and they're an all-body exercise. When you get good you can move up to fingertip push-ups. That's really all you need. You can throw some swimming in if you're really serious. But it has to be enough swimming that you are in serious pain when you finally crawl out of the pool.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 09:36 PM (zc3Db)

810 it's been proven (in studies where they track people's every move with accelerometers) that when people excercise, they reduce their movement throughout the rest of the day, canceling out a lot of the expected benefit of higher metabolic rates during exercise.

This is true to a point -- once you get into shape and make a habit of exercise, it becomes less of a tiring and stressful event, so your body gets used to that (or rather, becomes stronger and fitter so its not as difficult) and you get over that weariness that puts you on your back.

Maybe the reason blacks keep getting shot by da popo is because blacks don't listen to what da popo says

I imagine some of that is true, and some of it might be cultural: gotta be badass, gotta show everyone you're not afraid yadda yadda.

But there are bad guy cops out there, and cops who have bad days, like every job. Some of them are just jerks, and some become jaded and frustrated and take it out on the people they figure are bad guys. It doesn't even have to be racism so much as just frustration with dealing with the same crap all day long week after month after year.

So they might not give someone in that setting and culture the same break they would someone who isn't. Like, say, a guy who deals with redneck toothess meth-heads in rural Tennessee for years and has no patience with them vs a visiting guy from Japan. The cracker who gets pulled over gets rousted hard and searched. The Japanese guy gets treated with more respect.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:36 PM (39g3+)

811 You know what's a fun workout? Climbing a hill.
I don't mean a Rick wall. Just a normal hill, without a path. You use your brain, you discover stuff, it's interesting.

I guess that's my long winded way of saying most exercise in a gym is boring.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (7lVbc)

812 Hey join the Military and get paid to work out every day!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (Ozsfq)

813 Rick wall = rock wall

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (7lVbc)

814

tcn

he took UP running at 70

most people who hit 50 who have been running SINCE their 20s have had at least one and usually two knee surgeries, and toss in an ankle surgery too

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (zOTsN)

815 How many people going on a low carb diet replace the carb calories, calorie for calorie, with protein or fat calories?

It's easy to pig out on carb calories because most junk food is loaded with it, not so much with fat and protein calories that are with little to no carb calories.

Of course not all "carbs" are the same. Your body can only metabolize mono-saccharides. For starches, it can only clip off each saccharide unit and then metabolize it. In other words, you don't get a huge insulin spike with complex carbohydrates like you do with High Fructose Corn syrup.

The biggest thing you can do is to exercise.

Posted by: The Nutritional Hat at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (vBeA5)

816 ace, absolutely, get some expert/trainer advice on weight work. That, and so slow.


Here I am lapsing back into easy "duh" sorts of wisdom pearls.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (QDnY+)

817 Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)

Be careful on the trainer you pick. A lot don't know dick, do some serious research.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (R5HRU)

818 Welder by day, dancer by night.

That's hot dangergirl.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (qUNWi)

819 I've been slightly ahead of you Ace--have done a similar version of this for a couple of months and lost 22 pounds in that time. One thing that's helped me a lot is daily weighing. You may already do this, but it can be very powerful if you do it consistently, under similar conditions each day.

I weigh in once every morning, after showering, before drinking anything. I figure that's the time when my water weight will be at its minimum. Without fail, I can tell if I've eaten a lot the day before, or hardly anything, based on the amount I gain or (more often) lose. Once you gamify it this way, you think twice before any meal because you're concerned about what it will do to tomorrow's weigh in.

Posted by: ScottB at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (T+env)

820 811 You know what's a fun workout? Climbing a hill.
I don't mean a Rick wall. Just a normal hill, without a path. You use your brain, you discover stuff, it's interesting.

I guess that's my long winded way of saying most exercise in a gym is boring.
Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (7lVbc)

___

And climbing the hill uses a lot of muscles and every step is a little different since every step is on terrain that is unique to the last step. In the gym you do 10 reps, each of those 10 reps is identical.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 09:39 PM (0LHZx)

821 Just by accident, BLM now has 2 shootings to protest in Cleveland, better call up reinforcements now. Aka a postal emergency, without snow or rain.sleet is optional
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 09:19 PM (wiBmd)

Yup....troubled times are here. Since there is no law anymore be careful out there. Also, the lefties may be getting what they are asking for. Didn't Cloward-Piven(?) say to "overload" the system? If the Popo shoot a couple of hundred aspiring rappers/med students a week, the DOJ is gonna run out of money and attorneys, not to mention the MSM losing their damn minds.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 09:39 PM (ej1L0)

822 I guess that's my long winded way of saying most exercise in a gym is boring.
Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (7lVbc)

..............

Agreed. I have a fancy shmancy tread mill in the basement. Makes me shudder to get on it. However getting up at 5 am and walking in the moonlight with my dog for 2-3 miles is wonderful. I missed a day last week and my whole day was off kilter.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 07, 2016 09:40 PM (YUgLc)

823 I just imagine dangergirl pulling a string and a bucket of cold water splashing on her fit thorax.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:40 PM (qUNWi)

824 Already beset by a public outcry over the high-profile death of a black man in police custody and a rising murder rate, Baltimores police department is facing another headache: its shrinking fast.

The number of uniformed officers in the mid-Atlantic city fell 6.1 percent last year and has shrunk by even more in the first half of this year, according to police data seen by Reuters and not previously reported.

Gee, I can't imagine why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:41 PM (Ozsfq)

825 IF I get my age waiver from the Navy, I am going to buy a stationary Bike for the house

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (Ozsfq)

826 i did horrible damage to my shoulders as a kid using poor form with the bench press, and I don't want to go through that again.

I guess I just need to pay a trainer.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:33 PM (dciA+)

****

I don't think so, at least not right now. Use a machine instead of free weights for several months. A trainer can come when you are then ready for free weights.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (YLidQ)

827 POP, gonna amicably dissent on the swimming thing.


Sure, it would be ideal if you felt like the end of a 4,000-yd + water polo workout when you were done swimming. But more realistically, 1,500 - 2K yds is gonna be your workout. And not at the water polo intensity level.


And done regularly, you'll definitely benefit in many ways from such a workout.


Swimming is actually the best exercise of all if you could only do one (besides daily activities involving movement or strength). But not everyone has access to good pools (or the ocean, if you like - and that is a REALLY good workout).



Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (QDnY+)

828 Welder by day, dancer by night.



That's hot dangergirl.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:38 PM (qUNWi)



Hah! More like, "paint chemist by day, bourbon drinking tv watcher by night" but hell, think whatever you want about me. I won't spoil your fantasy.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (+eR2D)

829 I just imagine dangergirl pulling a string and a bucket of cold water splashing on her fit thorax.

Then screaming and falling out of the chair because its ice cold

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (39g3+)

830 Get a rower. Easy on joints, hits upper and lower body, and can be done your whole life.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (+b2T3)

831 Have I got a diet plan for you, for 3 easy payments I will change your life. No, really I will. I swear.

Posted by: Ron Popiell what is famous at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (wiBmd)

832 B'more is fucked. Unless all the guys quitting are crooked cops which is entirely possible.

After all it is Baltimore.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (qUNWi)

833
You know what's a fun workout? Climbing a hill.
------------------

You know what else is? Mining salt.

Man, it really is amazing how people differ on these things.

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (5o5ek)

834

oh man

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (zOTsN)

835 rhomboid,

exercise is good but exercise is good for reasons having little to do with weight loss.

In any weight loss regime, dietary factors are responsible for 90% of the impact; exercise, 10% at most.

In addition, exercise can actually slow weight loss because people (like me) wildly overestimate how many calories they've burned up by exercising, or how much protein they need to put on muscle, and overeat even more than they used to.

People just really need to understand that exercise is only going to add, at most, around 10% more total energy expenditure. People just don't realize how many calories they're already burning just to keep their basic metabolic functions working, and now small a contribution 40 minutes of power walking will be to that total.

I have Jawbone so I know the numbers. On an everage day I expend maybe 1800 calories, DOING NOTHING; when I get in a good 4 mile walk, 15 minutes per mile, I up that all the way to... 2100 calories.

If people are realistic about how small the marginal energy expenditure from exercise is, and know then to not eat a 1000 calorie Hero's Feast to feed their muscles, then fine, but most people, starting out, are going to wildly overestimate how many calorie they've burned or how much protein they realistically need to build the potential amount of muscle they maybe potentially got set to grow.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:44 PM (dciA+)

836 Apparently even George "oh my" Takei thinks making Sulu queer is stupid. He says add a new pouf character, don't change canon.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:44 PM (39g3+)

837 Agree with halfrican - due diligence on a trainer.

Also agree with MWNP - you could start with machines, get a trainer as you transition to free weights (which you should, at least for some sorts of work).


Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:44 PM (QDnY+)

838
Posted by: chemjeff at July 07, 2016 09:43 PM (qQk+U)




I've missed your trolling! Welcome back!

Posted by: Stating The Obvious at July 07, 2016 09:45 PM (cmE8J)

839 Unless all the guys quitting are crooked cops which is entirely possible.

I heard Detective Munch is still there, he always was a little bent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:45 PM (39g3+)

840 Actually your body can break down some of the starches pretty damn fast. Look at the glycemic index and load for Russet potatoes, baked. It's greater than sucrose.

For example, using a scale with pure glucose as 100, a medium baked potato has a GI of 85. White bread is 70. Sucrose is 68. When you look a at glycemic load, it's pretty bad as well. White rice is about the worst GL of all the common foods.

" Complex" looking at a diagram is not the best indicator. It's how fast the human digestive system breaks them down. Slow vs fast is what you need to look at.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:45 PM (DW+jj)

841 shes a maniac, a maniac on the floor

and shes dancing like shes never danced before

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (zOTsN)

842 I am 6'2" and 180#. Had deepfried catfish, frenchfries, baked beans, and Bluebell vanilla icecream for supper. And lemonade. Now having a peachjuice with Captain Morgan white. But no arugula! That's the key to being fit at age 67.

Posted by: Eromero at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (zLDYs)

843 Push-ups, pull-ups, chin-ups, a pair of dum-bells in all directions, lots of reps.

Sorry, I hate doing sit-ups. I used to do a lot of boogie boarding when I was living out in Waikiki, which was a great full body workout. You have to keep your abs tensed all the time, keep your back arched, paddle with your arms, and kick with your legs. And try not to get run over by the long boarders.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (XVTvT)

844 My "trainer" was big with the motivation. She would tell me "Lose some weigh you fat pig, you look like shit"! Kinda like my wife did. Oh wait that was my wife

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (Ozsfq)

845 You know what else is? Mining salt.

--

You will love my healthcare plan.

Posted by: Hillary! at July 07, 2016 09:47 PM (7lVbc)

846 There are protest gatherings here (Atl) and in a number of other major cities over 2 police shootings.....before fact one has been verified.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:47 PM (YLidQ)

847 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:42 PM (+eR2D)

Have a bourbon for me kiddo

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:47 PM (voOPb)

848 before fact one has been verified.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:47 PM (YLidQ)

there are only 2 facts that matter:
vic is black
Cop is white

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (Ozsfq)

849 I'm too old to mine talcum.

I'm doomed.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (qUNWi)

850 I think somebody posted the number of police shootings past year was approximately 500 of which 125 involved African-American. That's 75% of all shootings did not involve a black person. If you just went by the media reporting and outrage you would think it was just the opposite.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (MNgU2)

851

ehhhh... the current best practice sort of advice is to only work out with free weights, for a lot of reasons, including, crucially, that machines will cause you to build your pure exertion muscles, but not your crucial stabilization/balance muscles, because the machine, by restricting how the weight can move, does not require you to do any stabilizing or balancing.

And the best practice advice is that doing so will build your muscles in a poor way, where they're strong enough to *cause mechanical injury to yourself,* because you haven't also built up the balance/stability muscles.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (dciA+)

852 846 There are protest gatherings here (Atl) and in a number of other major cities over 2 police shootings.....before fact one has been verified.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:47 PM (YLidQ)

.............

So another Thursday more or less.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (YUgLc)

853 Ok, it is time to get ready for bed so I can weld for hours upon end tomorrow then do my stint at the Kitty Kat Klub. Be well, Morons. Let not your hearts be saddened. For tomorrow is another day. With more bourbon.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (+eR2D)

854 ace, excellent points about overall calorie intake and exercise.


And you'll recall I actually stressed the collateral (i.e. non-weight) benefits of exercise in my first comment on the topic.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM (QDnY+)

855 839 Unless all the guys quitting are crooked cops which is entirely possible.

I heard Detective Munch is still there, he always was a little bent.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:45 PM (39g3+)

He has to be some kind of record. The character starred in Law & Order and Homicide: Life on The Street, and did a guest appearance on The X-Files as well as other series.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM (7qAYi)

856 DangeGirl nails the dismount

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM (zOTsN)

857 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (Ozsfq)

Wasn't the Cop up there in MN an Asian? Asian reclassified as white?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM (WVsWD)

858 Dangergirl -- that's hot.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:50 PM (qUNWi)

859 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (Ozsfq)

Our wives are related? Didn't know that until now

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 09:50 PM (voOPb)

860 Here Comes The Agitation: Al Sharpton Says Hes On The Way To Baton Rouge


Weasel Zippers

Of course sharpie sharpton is going to the vic with criminal record and illegal gun.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:51 PM (Ozsfq)

861 I'm too old to mine talcum.



I'm doomed.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (qUNWi)


Banks, because that's where the money is.

Posted by: Stating The Obvious at July 07, 2016 09:51 PM (cmE8J)

862 her sign off sounds like a mix of Jennifer Beales and Scarlett O'Hara

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:51 PM (zOTsN)

863 844 My "trainer" was big with the motivation. She would tell me "Lose some weigh you fat pig, you look like shit"! Kinda like my wife did. Oh wait that was my wife
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:46 PM (Ozsfq)

Someone should combine the services of a stripper & personal trainer. Every set you do, something comes off.

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 09:51 PM (7qAYi)

864 The number of uniformed officers in the mid-Atlantic city fell 6.1 percent last year and has shrunk by even more in the first half of this year, according to police data seen by Reuters and not previously reported.

I wonder how long before this is handled by a draft. The left loves handling their f-ups with compulsory crap like the draft.

Posted by: bananaDream at July 07, 2016 09:51 PM (R9XV4)

865 DangeGirl nails the dismount

Like a boss.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:52 PM (qUNWi)

866 >>>And you'll recall I actually stressed the collateral (i.e. non-weight) benefits of exercise in my first comment on the topic

right. it's definitely a good thing to do. it's just not a very major factor in weight loss.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:52 PM (dciA+)

867 And the best practice advice is that doing so will build your muscles in a poor way, where they're strong enough to *cause mechanical injury to yourself,* because you haven't also built up the balance/stability muscles.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 09:48 PM (dciA+)

****

And how have those "best practice" reccos worked out over the last 40 years? I do all free weight, but have been weight training for 36 years. I learned my form on machines in High School and never looked back.

6' and 205, 18.5" neck, 52" Chest and 33" waist.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:52 PM (YLidQ)

868 Wasn't the Cop up there in MN an Asian? Asian reclassified as white?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM (WVsWD)


???Maybe I don't know. I just know he was not black. Asians are classified how it helps the left. Depends on the day and the issue

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:52 PM (Ozsfq)

869 I the cops wore cameras. be good to have the entire incident recorded

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (zOTsN)

870

Well, it becomes clear to me after reading the comments, that if people didn't have guns, they wouldn't be shot by police.


Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (wDzKm)

871 MN cop is Chinese.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (XVTvT)

872 right. it's definitely a good thing to do. it's just not a very major factor in weight loss.

Unless you are doing manual labor all day. That is how I lose weight - I get a job in construction after graduation.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 07, 2016 09:55 PM (bZ7mE)

873 Machines can work fine when you're young, but after you get good at them and older (say, over 25), your body starts sloughing off some of the muscle we took for granted. You start getting injured more.

That being said, they are better than nothing for someone just starting out.

Posted by: t-bird at July 07, 2016 09:55 PM (w35Hj)

874 via insty

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:55 PM (XVTvT)

875 Olivia DeHavilland was a MILF like crazy.

My Cousin Rachel. Mmmmmmm.......

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (qUNWi)

876 Why is corrine being indicted?

Didn't pay off the right people or wanted to keep all the graft for herself.

Should of shared corrine. Just like the dude that got beat up after bogarting the fatty.

No one likes a stinge.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (WVsWD)

877 Well, it becomes clear to me after reading the comments, that if people didn't have guns, they wouldn't be shot by police.







Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (wDzKm)

That's my point!

Posted by: Hillary! at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (cmE8J)

878 Yeah NGU, in the radio "news" clip I heard about the MN thing, the local talker mentioned that the cop was ethnic Chinese.


Since rule of law, and civic virtue, and responsibility, common sense, and true open-mindedness have been just about expunged from the society, it's only fitting that delusional race-obsession be elevated to a central principle.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (QDnY+)

879 we had a cop in my neighborhood get shot and killed in a routine traffic stop, in a nice part of town, at about 10 am, middle of the week

he was going to retire in a couple of months

so. 24 hour rule

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (zOTsN)

880 Exercise tends to be weight neutral and can even put on weight: muscle weighs more than fat. Its just a question of shape, not mass. The goal isn't to have a smaller number on the scale, its to be more fit.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:57 PM (39g3+)

881 MN cop is Chinese.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (XVTvT)

That would be a "White Chineses".

Get with the narrative.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:57 PM (WVsWD)

882 After deadly shootings, Obama says police must root out bias





You first, asshole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 07, 2016 09:58 PM (GILMl)

883 That would be a "White Chineses".

Get with the narrative.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:57 PM (WVsWD)

*****

Amerasian, thank you very much.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:58 PM (YLidQ)

884 OMG I just realized that Mr Bean is in Never Say Never Again

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:59 PM (7lVbc)

885 The goal isn't to have a smaller number on the scale, its to be more fit.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:57 PM (39g3+)

yes that is true but in the Military you run into strange situations where these man mountains are in fantastic shape by fail the weigh in's. They are trying to address that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 09:59 PM (Ozsfq)

886 MN cop is Chinese.
Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (XVTvT)

Yup.....We have become more obsessed with race than South Africa in the 50's and 60's.
It's the left's bread and butter.

Damn communists......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 07, 2016 09:59 PM (ej1L0)

887 871 MN cop is Chinese.
Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 09:54 PM (XVTvT)

____

White Chinese, I believe.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (0LHZx)

888 plus if my husband got shot I dont think I would be detached enough to live stream it on my facebook page

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (zOTsN)

889 876 Why is corrine being indicted?

Didn't pay off the right people or wanted to keep all the graft for herself.

Should of shared corrine. Just like the dude that got beat up after bogarting the fatty.

No one likes a stinge.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:56 PM (WVsWD)

Tough Crowd you hang with. I've never seen a dude get beat for bogarting a fatty.

It just made my bucket list.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (MlXgU)

890 >>>The goal isn't to have a smaller number on the scale, its to be more fit.

Mine is

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (voOPb)

891 yes that is true but in the Military you run into strange situations where these man mountains are in fantastic shape by fail the weigh in's.

I am not fat in any sense, but at 6'2 and 200 lbs, the BMI thinks I'm nearly obese.

The system is retarded.

I just realized that Mr Bean is in Never Say Never Again

Watch Blackadder.

That is all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (39g3+)

892
850 Less than 300 black people are killed by cops in a year.
More people are stung to death by bees or killed by lightning each year.
This is all battlefield preperation for the election since research indicates that blacks are not highly motivated to get to the polls this year.

Posted by: MAx at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (0uuiT)

893 Shit going down in TX see FOX

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (P/kVC)

894 Speaking of white Chinese, my wife also now orders brown rice with our Chinese food. I fuckin hate that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (Ozsfq)

895 556
Merovign..I have never read 1984. *runs and ducks*



Started to in HS... got terribly sick and missed a few weeks of
school.. that's when the class was reading it.. teacher gave me a pass
and an easier book to read to pass the class. Just never got around to
it. I know... I'm hanging my head in shame.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 07, 2016 08:32 PM (CNHr1)


You really should. I did -- way back when -- but, then, I read a LOT of SF, much of it dystopian....it wasn't until I had a cost accountant working for me describe how a 2-minute hate actually worked in Communist China as she was growing up there......

1984 wasn't invented from whole cloth -- he translated the stuff that he'd actually witnessed in Burma to the UK. The techniques, if not the trappings, of population control are real -- and the expression, "1984 was a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual" is a point to consider.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (EzgxV)

896
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 09:52 PM (YLidQ)

Machines have a place. For example my parents once they get in the gym I'm starting them on the back sled machine until they can build up some leg strength and then slowly transition to barbells.

However most machine use is pretty shitty.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (R5HRU)

897 White rice is about the worst GL of all the common foods.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 09:45 PM (DW+jj)
This is very true yet in Japan the people are usually quite slim when their diet is rich with white rice & rice noodles. Might have something to do with their portion sizes & their activity levels compared to the average American portion sizes & their activity levels. I wonder?

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (yNyJy)

898 OMG I just realized that Mr Bean is in Never Say Never Again

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 09:59 PM (7lVbc)




I never got into Mr. Bean but thought Blackadder was very funny

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (GILMl)

899 888
plus if my husband got shot I dont think I would be detached enough to live stream it on my facebook page

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:00 PM (zOTsN)

by the time i found my phone figured out how to put the video on e the action would be over.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (0O7c5)

900 Why are they protesting in TX? Can't they find MN to LA?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (Ozsfq)

901

I thought it had to by hypenated Chinese-American.

Irish-American

Swedish-American

Exception to the rule being 'Finlander"
there is always an exception.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (wDzKm)

902 The goal isn't to have a smaller number on the scale, its to be more fit.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 09:57 PM (39g3+)


Hear, hear!

And one very important thing I forgot to mention in my comments - stretching twice a day is one of the best things to do. Just 10 minutes worth is fine. But good, painful stretches. As with everything else, no pain no gain. Stretching helps speed up metabolism, staves off injuries and being flexible is an asset in pretty much any sport or athletic pursuit there is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 10:02 PM (zc3Db)

903 QuietMan, wouldn't it be nice, just once, for SOMEONE (could be the chief of police of the dept. involved, congressman or senator, whoever) to go off and respond to this vile crap from the affirmative action intern in the WH?


"Not for the first time, the president disgraced his office, himself, and harmed the cause of justice by injecting racially motivated assumptions into a case about which he has no useful knowledge.


"I call on both major candidates for president to pledge that when one of them takes office, they promise to end the outrageous and poisonous race-baiting that has stained our highest offices and corrupted the institutions of justice for the last 8 years".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (QDnY+)

904 892 That's your "epidemic" of blacks being killed by cops

Posted by: MAx at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (0uuiT)

905 You can't flip Texas blue if you protest out of state.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (39g3+)

906 Here's one way to look at the dieting/exercise balance:

You can lose weight with diet, but no exercise.

However, if you exercise without diet, you won't lose weight.*

* Exception: Look if you're an actual athlete, working out like a high school football player, six days a week,3 hours perday, yes, you can lose weight by pure exercise.

BUT NO ONE OVER AGE 21 DOES THIS, except for professional athletes, and they do it until, what, 30?

The amount of exercise a non-pro-athlete will do, even on a good week, is just not enough to reduce weight without making changes to diet.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (dciA+)

907 This violence in TX and elsewhere can and is directly tied to Fredo and his shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (Ozsfq)

908 Planet X is now known as planet 9. Mostly because of ignorant astrophysicist' who have a name that rhymes with fuck you, I am science.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (6Ll1u)

909 Thanks for the heads up Burnt Toast

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (yNyJy)

910 The Chinese and SE Asians eat a lot of white rice.

The whole carbs are bad thing I think is hooey.

Posted by: eleven at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (qUNWi)

911

cops get killed at routine traffic stops



OMG

they may have killed a cop in Dallas




Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (zOTsN)

912 Brown rice makes my pants fall off.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (Tyii7)

913 The White Chinese killed Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Too soon?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (MlXgU)

914 However most machine use is pretty shitty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (R5HRU)

****

True, but I think they are a good starting point to prevent injury while you build up strength to move on to free weights.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (YLidQ)

915 Back when I was in college, I put on the freshmen 15lbs or whatever they called it. One summer, I think it was sophomore, I came home and got in the straw baling business. The landscapers and builders were going crazy, it was grain harvesting time, and we had lots of straw. So, make some extra bucks by baling that shit.

I did. My father said keep all the money yourself, but you is gonna do the work. Don't come crying to me. I did. And boy did I work my little ass off. Baling in 90 degree heat during the day, then pickup in late afternoon, and hauling and unloading in the mornings.

All damn day, I was covered in sweat. After a month of that, I was in the best shape I was ever in, a lean mean, wanna-be sex machine.

Some days it was so hot, and so still picking up bales, I couldn't stay still, taking a break. I had to move to keep air flowing over me, otherwise I'd collapse from heat stroke.

I actually ate less for lunch during that. My damn belly was full of water. They actually remarked, the gals that ran this little joint I'd eat at, that I was eating much less.

I'd pig out for supper, that I remember. But it was good, home cooked shit. And then I'd collapse at 9PM or so, to be ready to get up at 6AM or earlier.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (DW+jj)

916 our parents weren't fat; our kids are-what happened?

Posted by: pahoubnd 13 at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (noKsK)

917 Kelly says a cop is on the ground in Dallas, shots fired

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (zOTsN)

918 Maybe Charles Mason was right but early to the show: Helter Skelter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (Ozsfq)

919 850 Less than 300 black people are killed by cops in a year.
More people are stung to death by bees or killed by lightning each year.
This
is all battlefield preperation for the election since research
indicates that blacks are not highly motivated to get to the polls this
year.

Posted by: MAx at July 07, 2016 10:01 PM (0uuiT)


Either that, or it's an effort to undermine faith in local police so they can start trying to push the idea of a national police force. One of Obama's stated goals was a "civilian agency with equal power to the military".

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 07, 2016 10:06 PM (J+mig)

920 I think BMI is very dubious as a useful index, in many cases (we tried using it in refugee relief programs for a bit, for the adults, but it didn't prove to be very useful).


Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 10:06 PM (QDnY+)

921 Kelly says a cop is on the ground in Dallas, shots fired

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (zOTsN)



If he's been shot I'm sure the sodomite in the White House will have nothing to say about it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 07, 2016 10:06 PM (GILMl)

922 All the black men killed by police nationwide add up to a hot weekend or two in Chicago.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 07, 2016 10:06 PM (rwI+c)

923 Glad i have weapons in my house that is all I can say

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:06 PM (Ozsfq)

924 This violence in TX and elsewhere can and is directly tied to Fredo and his shit


Posted by: Nevergiveup


It was Soros, in the drawing room, with the Billion dollars.

Obama is frankly not bright enough to mastermind much of anything. Well, maybe he can outwit Michelle.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 07, 2016 10:07 PM (Cz05v)

925 BUT NO ONE OVER AGE 21 DOES THIS, except for professional athletes, and they do it until, what, 30?

The amount of exercise a non-pro-athlete will do, even on a good week, is just not enough to reduce weight without making changes to diet.

Posted by: ace at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (dciA+)

*****

Understood. My posts were only directed at lifting and machine vs. free weights. I did not address weight loss at all. Sorry if that got conflated.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (YLidQ)

926 Obama is frankly not bright enough to mastermind much of anything. Well, maybe he can outwit Michelle.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 07, 2016 10:07 PM (Cz05v)

maybe but he has the Bully Pulpit and cam make plenty of trouble with his fuckin stupidity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (Ozsfq)

927 The bit that cracks me up from Blackadder is the girl impersonating a guy who says her name is "Bob"
Just the way they say "Bob" is funny, I don't know why.

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (7lVbc)

928 Someone has a rifle?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (Ozsfq)

929 All the black men killed by police nationwide add up to a hot weekend or two in Chicago.

This is brutally, sadly accurate.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (39g3+)

930 MAx makes a good point. The Zimmerman outrage was almost certainly a turnout-minded tactic of the admin. back in 2012.


Unbelievable, and despicable.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (QDnY+)

931 The drop of a hat makes my pants fall off.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 07, 2016 10:08 PM (Tyii7)

932 our parents weren't fat; our kids are-what happened?



The decadence of prosperity. Parents don't want their kids to suffer the misery that they (the parents) suffered. We got soft.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:09 PM (wDzKm)

933 917 Kelly says a cop is on the ground in Dallas, shots fired

--

Praying

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:09 PM (7lVbc)

934 this police shooting at a routine traffic stop happened in 2012


Norman was a 24-year police veteran with the Bellaire Police Department. He attempted to pull over the car Lewis was driving after running a computer check on the license plate, and learning a warrant had been issued for insufficient insurance.

According to fellow Bellaire officer Sergio Salinas, Lewis led Norman on a chase through residential streets until side-swiping a truck driven by Sylvan Romera Amaya. Amaya testified he also began chasing Lewis at that point to get his license and insurance information.

Lewis continued on in his damaged car for a few blocks before pulling into the parking lot of the Maaco body shop. Taylor knew Norman and came out to try to assist him. As the officer was trying to pull Lewis from his car, Lewis shot him. He then aimed the gun at Taylor, shooting and killing him also.
Prosecutors said Lewis then turned to shoot Amaya, who was also standing near his car, but Amaya dove to the ground after hearing the first shot.


the police officer died, the shooter is on death row


Cops do get killed in routine traffic stops

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:09 PM (zOTsN)

935 919 They already have that in the EPA, DHS, IRS etc...

Posted by: MAx at July 07, 2016 10:09 PM (0uuiT)

936 True, but I think they are a good starting point to prevent injury while you build up strength to move on to free weights.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:04 PM (YLidQ)


For me, I always preferred machines over free weights. I liked Nautilus machines the most but would never turn down working out on a simple universal.

And you can do negative workouts on machines, which is an excellent practice.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 07, 2016 10:09 PM (zc3Db)

937 "Walk with a purpose, stretch out the length of stride. A 15 min mile is easy."

And 14 is not.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 10:10 PM (3myMJ)

938 I've been doing a slightly modified version of the Bulletproof Diet for about 3 weeks and have lost just a tad under 15 pounds as of this morning.

My only deviation is that I'm drinking decaf instead of buying expensive beans and grinding them.

I love it. I'm not hungry at all, have plenty of energy, and the pounds are melting off.

Plus, Bulletproof Coffee tastes amazingly good.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 07, 2016 10:10 PM (nvMvs)

939

the meme is that cops are in no danger during routine traffic stops

that is absolutely not true

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:11 PM (zOTsN)

940
Posted by: rhomboid at July 07, 2016 10:03 PM (QDnY+)

----------------

Why don't local cops do that? There's a reason. What is it?

Posted by: iforgot at July 07, 2016 10:11 PM (5o5ek)

941 I think what is most amazing about the Obama years is all the racial healing.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (Cz05v)

942 Taint been around today. What the Heck happened?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (0JHOk)

943 Two down

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (P/kVC)

944

two police officers shot in Dallas

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)

945 the meme is that cops are in no danger during routine traffic stops

that is absolutely not true
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:11 PM (zOTsN)

Traffic stops and domestic violence are probably the 2 most dangerous

FOX is reporting 2 COPS shot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (Ozsfq)

946 I tried jogging in college for a fitness class, and that's where I found out I have a bum ticker. My heartbeat started becoming very irregular, like the drumbeat at the beginning of "Hot For Teacher" by Van Halen even at rest. I started walking instead and it calmed down.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (39g3+)

947 two police officers shot in Dallas
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)

WTH
Who is shooting them?

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:13 PM (7lVbc)

948 917 Kelly says a cop is on the ground in Dallas, shots fired
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (zOTsN)

Two officers down - WZ

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 10:13 PM (7qAYi)

949
A 'routine' traffic stop does not include attempting to flee, a high speed chase, a crash, and shots fired.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:14 PM (wDzKm)

950


I am sure the purple lipped fuck will describe this protest as "mostly peaceful"

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:14 PM (zOTsN)

951 most people who hit 50 who have been running SINCE their 20s have had at least one and usually two knee surgeries, and toss in an ankle surgery too
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 09:37 PM (zOTsN)

Don't know where you get these facts, but the crowd my dad hangs with do not have these issues. Could be that they run on dirt, not pavement. Could be that they listen to their bodies and don't kill themselves. I don't know.

I am not a runner. My body type is a little too top heavy for that (and no, no pics, guys) and my legs are short. But, I was a swimmer, so I know the drill. Unless you are doing competitive training, you aren't likely to lose much weight, but you probaby will increase muscle mass, which in turn will help your diet.

And for some folks, it is just a bridge too far to do anything healthy on a regular basis.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 07, 2016 10:14 PM (+YMhA)

952 This is the fault of that fuck Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:15 PM (Ozsfq)

953 I think what is most amazing about the Obama years is all the racial healing.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 07, 2016 10:12 PM (Cz05v)

****

I posted that once in response to a former friend of mine bemoaning the lack of unity in our Country, suddenly. Responses were what you would expect, hence the former friend.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:15 PM (YLidQ)

954 The whole "Asians eat lots of carbs, and are a skinny" thing is complicated, and there's a lot of oversimplifications involved in the basic reasoning.

Asians are different that Caucasians. BMI comparisons are highly misleading. In fact, Asians can have "lard ass" syndrome symptoms, insulin resistance and all that, with lower BMI than use round eyes. That's a part of it.

Their fiber content is higher and the whole digestive process is slower than is typical for us. We're talking the whole population that includes scores of dirt poor peasants.

Under near starvation conditions, high carb/low fat will not make you fat. In the CICO equation, they are *forced* to lower their intake, no matter how hungry they may be. :-)

It's a very complicated thing, and I just know enough to be dangerous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 07, 2016 10:15 PM (DW+jj)

955
WTH
Who is shooting them?

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:13 PM (7lVbc)

I'm not going with Cowboys, or Indians.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 10:16 PM (3myMJ)

956

I am sure the purple lipped fuck will describe this protest as "mostly peaceful"
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:14 PM (zOTsN)

The usual suspects will blame Trump somehow

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 10:16 PM (7qAYi)

957 A 'routine' traffic stop does not include attempting to flee, a high speed chase, a crash, and shots fired.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:14 PM (wDzKm)


It STARTED as a routine traffic stop


it ENDED with TWO MURDERS

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:16 PM (zOTsN)

958 Get that Fuck Fredo out of his Polish bed and make him say something now. Fuck Him and the left wingers he rode in on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:16 PM (Ozsfq)

959 mostly peaceful left wing protestors shoot two cops.

The transformation of America continues.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at July 07, 2016 10:16 PM (NAv1Q)

960 >>>> Dallas, shots fired
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:05 PM (zOTsN)
-----
I have a friend who works downtown and just texted me pics of the BLM protest outside his window. Estimates at least 10K protesters. This is going to be really bad.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:17 PM (6IPEM)

961

get off the Khat, man

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)

962 http://www.fox4news.com/live

Live stream for the Dallas story

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 10:17 PM (WVsWD)

963 Weasel Zippers beats FOX and Drudge to the news?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:18 PM (Ozsfq)

964 And for some folks, it is just a bridge too far to do anything healthy on a regular basis.

Yeah, that's not a nice place to be. And its a downward spiral, because the healthier you are, the better you can fight off sickness and manage symptoms. And the weaker you get, the less you can exercise so the sicker you get, so the less you can exercise until you can't exercise at all....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 07, 2016 10:18 PM (39g3+)

965 Shots fired own downtown Dallas


Now THAT brings back memories

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:18 PM (Ozsfq)

966 I have found that I can do any activity with a twitchy hip EXCEPT for fast walking. Something about the length of my gait. It hurts later. I can actually do P90X and it won't hurt later.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (U+nHb)

967 It's a BLM protest?

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (7lVbc)

968 Okay, catching up. Watching NBC 5 (Ft Worth) right now and word is a meeting to honor the victims of last week's shootings is where the thing wound up. Lots of po-po in downtown Dallas at the moment. They are acting as if there are still active threats.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (0JHOk)

969 get off the Khat, man

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:17 PM



FINNALLY! Someone GETS IT!

Heh!

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (wDzKm)

970 Saw the original live video it showed two persons, one looked like a cop, lying on the ground...they were not hunkering down. That's what it looked like.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (uHFrd)

971 And right after that fuck Fredo spoke...what a fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (Ozsfq)

972


so in Texas the parking garages are under the office buildings. These two were shot by the parking garage entrance

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:20 PM (zOTsN)

973 It's a BLM protest?
Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (7lVbc)


Yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:20 PM (Ozsfq)

974 Eman ... Eman ... when will your nic re-appear ?
Eman ... EEE --- EEE MAN ...
... where will this take us from here ?

With an Ewok so pissed off ...
... and no cobs to call him off.

YOU CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T TRY ... Y ... Y ...

But Eman ... EEE --- MAN ...
... where will this take us from here ?



Posted by: ScoggDog at July 07, 2016 10:20 PM (fiGNd)

975 >>> Shots fired own downtown Dallas
----
Now THAT brings back memories
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:18 PM
-----
You're awful. Absolutely incorrigible. Has anyone ever told you that?
And, I laughed.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (6IPEM)

976 Reports of a sniper in a parking garage in Dallas

Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (7qAYi)

977 They say rifle.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (uHFrd)

978 2 cops shot in Dallas

Posted by: Jake at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (LqH1q)

979 Shots fired own downtown Dallas
----
Now THAT brings back memories
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:18 PM
-----
You're awful. Absolutely incorrigible. Has anyone ever told you that?
And, I laughed.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (6IPEM)

Actually I was serious. I am old enough to reme mber that I was in 4th grade

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM (Ozsfq)

980

a sniper


my God

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM (zOTsN)

981 "Now THAT brings back memories"


Another time, another place, another thread..........there might be a joke in there.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM (0JHOk)

982 976 Reports of a sniper in a parking garage in Dallas
Posted by: josephistan at July 07, 2016 10:21 PM (7qAYi)

I'll give you 50-50 odds it's a Muz

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM (7lVbc)

983 45

Rapey Thursday?

In the last 12 years in Massachusetts, 42/300 rapists CONVICTED of rape did No Time. Why? Because they had no prior serious convictions! So, practically boy scouts.

http://tinyurl.com/zx3n52x

Posted by: Mister Magoo

If you're going to be raped, the judged think that its probably better that it be by a guy or gang with experience who know what they are doing, and you won't get that if you put them in jail on their inaugural conviction.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 07, 2016 10:23 PM (QdAXQ)

984 "Now THAT brings back memories"


Another time, another place, another thread..........there might be a joke in there.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM (0JHOk)

No I was serious I was in 4th Grade then and I remember. And that is what FOX just said on TV: "Shots fired in downtown Dallas". I was not kidding around or joking. It just hit me like that when they said that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:23 PM (Ozsfq)

985 Saw the original live video it showed two persons,
one looked like a cop, lying on the ground...they were not hunkering
down. That's what it looked like.


Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going rr at July 07, 2016 10:19 PM (uHFrd)

Saw that too. About 20 minutes ago.
It was live on the Kelly show, just before the scene you mention it had a one cop to their left lying face down.Right after they showed the two you mention Kelly asked to break away for a bit.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 07, 2016 10:24 PM (P/kVC)

986 Stage 1: Media rushes to make national news out of a police shooting of a black and sensationalizes it before all the facts are known. BLM 'community organizers' quickly take to streets, followed by media cameras.

Stage 2: BLMer shoots cops.

Stage 3. The shooting sparks a sit-in by the Democrats in Congress to ban guns or register guns or whatever is next on their agenda.

Stage 4: Obama and Hillary echo the BLM claim that America is racist and to prove otherwise we need to take in massive additioal waves of Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and Europe.

Stage 5: The administration implements even more stringent surveillance and monitoring of the entire American population to deal with increasing Islamic terrorism in the homeland.

Stage 6: The progressives get even more brazen in their lawless governence as they enjoy increased ability to surveill, control and disarm the American population.

Stage 7: Start Stage 1 again.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 07, 2016 10:24 PM (5xDis)

987 I use the 15 second fast. i.e. the amount of time between my last beer and my next one. So far I've lost negative-a-significant-amount..

Posted by: irright (a fat drunk) at July 07, 2016 10:24 PM (XfEYT)

988 I'll give you 50-50 odds it's a Muz

Double or nothing he's guilty of plagiarism.

Posted by: Ghost of Harry Chapin at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (fiGNd)

989 Be very careful and don't just stop eating. I did that and went from 220 to about 172. I got very weak and 2 years later still haven't gained my strength back. I also don't have a normal appetite and can go days without feeling hungry. I was healthier at 220.

Like most things moderation is critical.

Posted by: The kinder gentler skinnier Vapor at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (lwYSQ)

990 Actually I was serious. I am old enough to reme mber that I was in 4th grade

........

and if reports are accurate students went and got their own rifles to shoot back

Posted by: Jake at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (LqH1q)

991

witness says who ever shot the police shot an assualt rifle because he heard it

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (zOTsN)

992 >>> Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:22 PM
-----
Oh sorry then. I thought you were being glib. My mind always goes for the worst possible interpretation of everything.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (6IPEM)

993 Witness says 20 rifle shots.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (uHFrd)

994 No I was serious I was in 4th Grade then and I remember. And that is what FOX just said on TV: "Shots fired in downtown Dallas". I was not kidding around or joking. It just hit me like that when they said that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:23 PM (Ozsfq)

****

I was less than a year old, but my Mom vacuum sealed the newspapers from the time. That was one of the 72 point headlines I remember.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (YLidQ)

995 1000!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (J+mig)

996 Late to the party but here's my story. On Aug 11, 2015, the week before tendon transplant surgery, I started on a low carb, high fat diet. Starting weight was 277; now 218. I cut out all identifiable carbs. No grains, root vegatables, sugar of any kind or source. Never been hungry the whole time. Never tried the fasting though. May try it now after this thread.

Posted by: Agitator at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (gw0Nj)

997 Damnit

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (J+mig)

998


they say its some sort of rifle

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:26 PM (zOTsN)

999 I see the horde has had some disturbances

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (S0Cig)

1000 Race riots, I mean protest, in 3 different cities.

Blacks lives don't matter when blacks kill blacks.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (xVgrA)

1001 witness says who ever shot the police shot an assualt rifle because he heard it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (zOTsN)

Posted by: @votermom at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (7lVbc)

1002 Witness told his friends, who had rifles, to give them to police so that they would not be confused with the shooter.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (uHFrd)

1003 My mind always goes for the worst possible interpretation of everything.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (6IPEM)

You are not the only one.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (WVsWD)

1004 "No I was serious I was in 4th Grade then and I remember."


Didn't say you weren't.



Still a hubbub. Still a wounded PO down somewhere they believe. Not recovered yet.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:28 PM (0JHOk)

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:28 PM (uHFrd)

1006 State dept re-starts Hillary e-mail probe?
Either someone's payoff check bounced, or wasn't the promised amount.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 07, 2016 10:28 PM (hVdx9)

1007 Domestic sniper attacks is a legitimate use for a armed surgical drone strike. ASAP.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 07, 2016 10:28 PM (MlXgU)

1008 The world has simply gone mad.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 07, 2016 10:28 PM (an4HZ)

1009 Witness told his friends, who had rifles, to give them to police so that they would not be confused with the shooter.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:27 PM (uHFrd)




excuse me?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTsN)

1010 Oh sorry then. I thought you were being glib. My mind always goes for the worst possible interpretation of everything.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (6IPEM)

No reason to be sorry. I see how you could think that. But it just hit me when they said that. How old are you? Just curious?

and for the record:

Texas Radio Hall of Fame member Gary DeLaune who was first on KLIF radio with bulletin shots fired in downtown Dallas. 1963

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:29 PM (Ozsfq)

1011

welcome back Clock boy

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTsN)

1012 Don't know what "shooting as assault rifle" means....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:30 PM (0JHOk)

1013 Video of the firefight in Dallas
https://www.facebook.com/michaelbautista86/videos/vb.100003576517454/899698650159344/?type=2&theater

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 07, 2016 10:30 PM (pAlYe)

1014 excuse me?

Everybody has guns in Texas. Some of those at the protest had guns.


Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (uHFrd)

1015 Witness told his friends, who had rifles, to give them to police so that they would not be confused with the shooter.




Is this an implication that these protestors are carrying rifles? as part of the protest?

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (wDzKm)

1016 witness says who ever shot the police shot an assualt rifle because he heard it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:25 PM (zOTsN)


Posted by: @votermom
-------------

Probably heard that thing that goes up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (yddCj)

1017 Dear God.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (T/5A0)

1018 Dallas sounds like it's about to blow up.

Friend there says 3 cops shot and the BLM have moved off Main Street and seem to be headed to West End.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (6IPEM)

1019 Don't know what "shooting as assault rifle" means....?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:30 PM (0JHOk)


I pretty much assume that at this early stage they mean any rifle or gun that goes bang. But if it was a sniper from a distance I would assume some sort of rifle

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:31 PM (Ozsfq)

1020 It's a good thing that fists and feet killed more people than rifles, I need some new shoes.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 07, 2016 10:32 PM (6Ll1u)

1021 Barack ready to announce that cops must show "restraint" and not use too much oppressive power on the 'protestors'.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 10:32 PM (3myMJ)

1022 pray

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:32 PM (zOTsN)

1023 Cops going in.
I'll agree 50 percent chance it's a .....muzzie

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:33 PM (uHFrd)

1024

guy is in an office building?


WTF

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:33 PM (zOTsN)

1025 pray
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:32 PM (zOTsN)

Pray for sure and be careful also. It's open season on whites and anyone in Uniform

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:33 PM (Ozsfq)

1026 Couple of new vids at WZ.

Whoever it is, they are armed pretty well.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (WVsWD)

1027 986
Stage 4: ...America is racist and to prove otherwise we need to take in massive additional waves of Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and Europe.

Stage 5: The administration implements even more stringent surveillance and monitoring of the entire American population to deal with increasing Islamic terrorism in the homeland.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 07, 2016 10:24 PM (5xDis)


Note that this started under Bush 43.

Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (sdi6R)

1028 guy is in an office building?


WTF
Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:33 PM (zOTsN)

An elevated fire position

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (Ozsfq)

1029 1019 Don't know what "shooting as assault rifle" means....?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:30 PM (0JHOk)

They are "insinuating" that it was a disgruntled redneck trying to hit the BLM crowd and missed... I kid you not...

Posted by: donna at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (O2RFr)

1030

please pray for Dallas and those police officers

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (zOTsN)

1031 2 cops shot in Dallas

No evil intent, so I recommend calm.

Posted by: FBI Director Comey at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (yddCj)

1032 Good grief, doesn't Dallas have SWAT? The cops going in the parking garage without helmets or BP jackets, just riot shields? God help them.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (yNyJy)

1033 "I pretty much assume that at this early stage they mean any rifle or gun that goes bang. But if it was a sniper from a distance I would assume some sort of rifle"


And that could be anything from a .22 to a .50.



Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (0JHOk)

1034 Everybody has guns in Texas. Some of those at the protest had guns.


Posted by: Patina Awry Newt
---------------

Not as many as people in some other states:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/o9f46y6

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (yddCj)

1035

I know they are in an elevated position

not some asshole in his car

obviously alot of planning

and access to the building AFTER HOURS

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (zOTsN)

1036

of course mcf**kstick goes on tv to incite race

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (qCMvj)

1037 Someone sniping cops....not.good.at.all.

Posted by: lindafell de spair-TEXIT!! at July 07, 2016 10:36 PM (xVgrA)

1038 of course mcf**kstick goes on tv to incite race
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (qCMvj)

Yes... He incited this.... But is it really a bad shot white guy who "missed" like some are saying...

Posted by: donna at July 07, 2016 10:36 PM (O2RFr)

1039 They are "insinuating" that it was a disgruntled redneck trying to hit the BLM crowd and missed... I kid you not...
Posted by: donna at July 07, 2016 10:34 PM (O2RFr)

***

Of course they are. This one has gotten away from them though.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 07, 2016 10:36 PM (YLidQ)

1040 Just heard.........."they had a long-gun."


Still, nobody has a clue.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (0JHOk)

1041 They aren't insinuating anything.
The witness said he has rifles and shoots he knows what a rifle sounds like and it sounded like a rifle.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt...the anagram is going r&r at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (uHFrd)

1042

nood

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (qCMvj)

1043 Good grief, doesn't Dallas have SWAT? The cops going in the parking garage without helmets or BP jackets, just riot shields? God help them.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:35 PM (yNyJy)

waiting for SWAT didnt work too well in Orlando or Paris or Belgium


remember the Draw Mo event, it wasnt SWAT that took them out

Posted by: ThunderB at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (zOTsN)

1044

I reached the conclusion, sometime in 2009, that Obama wants a race war in this country. Nothing I have seen in the last seven years has caused me to re-evaluate that conclusion.

Posted by: Khat Man Lu at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (wDzKm)

1045 Actually one riot shield for three cops, e gads!

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (yNyJy)

1046 This will not end well.

Posted by: Infidel at July 07, 2016 10:37 PM (9jI1O)

1047 1041 They aren't insinuating anything.
The witness said he has rifles and shoots he knows what a rifle sounds like and it sounded like a rifle.

Right... It was just one of the "crowd" saying so... We know how reliable "witnesses" are...

Posted by: donna at July 07, 2016 10:38 PM (O2RFr)

1048 And that could be anything from a .22 to a .50.



Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-------------

Hey, I could hit a a guy a 1/4 mile away, with a Colt .45, while we were both riding horseback.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at July 07, 2016 10:38 PM (yddCj)

1049 1038
Yes... He incited this.... But is it really a bad shot white guy who "missed" like some are saying...
Posted by: donna at July 07, 2016 10:36 PM (O2RFr)
--------------------------------
Good Lord, I hope not.
But how could you "miss" and hit 2 cops and no one else?
What are the odds of that?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 07, 2016 10:38 PM (T/5A0)

1050 Fuck BLM.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at July 07, 2016 10:38 PM (vyqqu)

1051
No way to delay that trouble comin' every day.

https://youtu.be/oo4EnABWB4Y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 07, 2016 10:39 PM (IqV8l)

1052 Aw Cisco

Posted by: Pancho at July 07, 2016 10:39 PM (uHFrd)

1053 Agitators create more and more trouble, requiring more and more authoritarianism, which creates more and more trouble. The Leftist Playbook to a tee.

Posted by: davidt at July 07, 2016 10:40 PM (XVTvT)

1054 I assumed the reference to assault rifle meant rapid fire.

Heard that an eyewitness claimed 4 officers were in ambulances, no confirmation.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly matters at July 07, 2016 10:40 PM (3myMJ)

1055 Just make sure to shit out almost as much as you eat and you're good. Not that complicated.

Posted by: Mimzey at July 07, 2016 10:40 PM (aRUb8)

1056 >>>>> How old are you? Just curious?
----
You're not allowed to ask a woman her age! I'm young enough not to have any memory of the JFK assassination. Only learned of it through history books. I did visit the book depository and didn't really feel any kind of emotion. it was one of those things. Missed the moon landing too. I can see how certain moments get seared into your memory where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing at the time. 9/11 was probably the first kind of moment for me like that.
I'm glad I didn't offend you with that comment.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 07, 2016 10:41 PM (6IPEM)

1057 Oh yeah you are so right Thunder. But egads this is downtown Dallas, one would think SWAT should be out there by now.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at July 07, 2016 10:41 PM (yNyJy)

1058 Wasn't the Cop up there in MN an Asian? Asian reclassified as white?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 07, 2016 09:49 PM

Yes but he was White Asian!

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 07, 2016 10:42 PM (aZxzS)

1059 Maybe tfg is having swatt change their chloths 4 times

Posted by: E.T. at July 07, 2016 10:43 PM (c+7Ko)

1060 The cops should turn off their damn sirens when they are under fire.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at July 07, 2016 10:48 PM (lxQwi)

1061 Any moment TFG is going to come out with another pearl of wisdom about "cops acting stupidly."

'Cuz he's a uniter not a divider, dontcha know.

/s

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 07, 2016 10:52 PM (EZebt)

1062 Try the low carbs first..
I have lost 31 pounds since Christmas.. all I have done is avoided carbs when I can.
No paleo crap.. no atkins..

I have avoided carbs in the morning.. I used to do a lot of pastries.. I will eat a couple fried or microwaved scrambled eggs now. You can make great omelettes in the m-wave!

I don't eat potatoes with meals,, I opt for fruit instead.
I still eat sandwiches occasionally.. tacos..

My appetite has diminished. So I am eating less.

portion control goes a long way when you are not all that hungry to begin with!

Posted by: CIA Monitor Team at July 07, 2016 11:03 PM (UpGcq)

1063 There is fructose in semen...
No wonder fat white republicans are fat with the variety of their carb sources

Posted by: NO criminal charges at July 07, 2016 11:19 PM (DKkc8)

1064 Just finished the "Butter makes your pants fall off" video. Awesome. Hard to decide whether that or the great Dr. Fung video is better. Both are great discoveries. Between those and finishing off Dr. Fung's book over the weekend, I'm going to give this a try. I sort of have been, what with not having breakfast and skipping the snacking. So far, so good.

Posted by: Splunge at July 07, 2016 11:35 PM (LnFC3)

1065 Before Dr. Fung's book, "when to eat" had been completely off of my radar. It seems pretty interesting.

Oh, and my iPad wants to turn "Dr Fung's" into "Dr Fungus"

Posted by: Splunge at July 07, 2016 11:36 PM (LnFC3)

1066 Haven't read it all, but here's my story. I lost 40 pounds from my post baby weight and I get stock at the same place every time. I've flirted with that number 5 or 6 times over the past 5 years. This time I was there for 4 months straight. I exercised 2 hours a day and was eating less than 1100 calories per day, meat, fruit vegetables, healthy fats and vinegar is all. Bonked multiple times in my workouts where I almost couldn't drag myself back to the house and Hangry was an understatement multiple times. I also stopped ovulating for two months in a row while on this diet, which sucks because losing weight is supposed to help me with my infertility, and two more after I tried adding more calories. And I still couldn't lose any more weight. Stuck stuck stuck.

I said fuck it. I've gained 30 back. I ovulated this month, I think.

My forehead isn't ready to be beat back up against the brick wall again.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at July 08, 2016 12:22 AM (FIATw)

1067 Weight-Loss Outcomes: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Intermittent Energy Restriction Trials Lasting a Minimum of 6 Months

http://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/8/6/354

Posted by: bbrown at July 08, 2016 02:22 AM (QxwSs)

1068 You don't need to do the intermittent fasting to lose weight. All you need to do is restrict your carbohydrate intake to under 25g daily. Without carbs (easy energy) your body is forced to either manufacture glycogen from proteins or burn fat for energy. If you restrict the carbs and also keep your protein intake lower than your fat intake, you can put your body in fat burning mode and keep it there. This is called ketosis. Your body will be unable to store fat while in ketosis. Now all you have to do is make sure you burn more calories than you consume and you'll continue to lose weight. Get a Fitbit or some other step counter and start walking. Keep your calories burned ahead of calories consumed and you'll lose weight every day.

Posted by: pete at July 08, 2016 09:01 AM (meg+g)

1069 I more or less stumbled into this kind of thing myself, mainly as a way to diet quickly and with minimum self-discipline. It's much easier (it's actually kind of fun) to binge and purge than it is to pace yourself with undersized meals for months on end. I'm not sure how well it adapts to something which is psychologically easy to sustain over the long term though. Maybe something on the lines of a 5+2 diet would work.

Posted by: anonymous irishman at July 08, 2016 10:57 AM (DJgfL)

1070 Actually, I happen to be doing it right now. I'm really tempted to go out and buy a stack of Coke Zeroes, as they really help with the nagging thoughts of eating.

Posted by: anonymous irishman at July 08, 2016 11:15 AM (DJgfL)

1071 I will say up front I have a masters in nutrition, and I think Gary Taubes writings are very important. That said then, a couple niggling quibbles. Ace says after so many hours without carbs 'your fat buring machinery kicks in because you've used up all the glycogen in your blood'. Well, sort of, but not exactly. Glycogen is a stored form of carbohydrate, and its stored in liver and a little in muscle tissues. When liberated from storage it travels through the body like any other carb that's been broken down---as blood glucose. Nit picking I know, but I assume readers of this blog are interested in fine points. As to intermittent fasting: yes it likely adds something to the robustness of your weight loss, but in my opinion, why bother? If one merely eats a lot protein and fat, not to the complete and total exclusion of carbs but the major proportion of diet, two things happen. One: protein is hard to break down. That's why the pH of your stomach is about one. So as a consequence about 25% of the caloric value of the food is used up in simply digesting it. Two: A high fat diet in and of itself will turn on the 'fat burning machinery in the body'. Think about it. In the abscence of carbs, what choice does the body have? That is all. Carry on.

Posted by: Michael Croy at July 08, 2016 12:22 PM (2u+Ik)

1072 If you are fasting a lot you are not eating. I would need to see a very controlled study of groups of people eating the same total amounts of food, some spread out some with long fast between. You could then add in the added complication of fat to carbohydrate ratios at the same total calorie intake. I have been strict calorie counting for the last 6 months, it is very hard to do, not the eating less the counting calories part. I expect very few studies involving self reporting of intake are getting solid numbers. Calculating output is even tougher as people's bodies do change in response to what happens to them. My diet is basically eat less, so far -95 lbs. less eating more activity you lose weight. My current cal goal is well below the estimate my diet program suggests, if my weight loss flattens out the cal target will be dropped. If you want to go high fat high protein that is great as long as you also eat less. The guys in the story are trying to get below 10% body fat, at that level high fat and fasting may help, but few dieters are anywhere near 10% body fat.

Posted by: Fredlike at July 08, 2016 01:27 PM (AHd0y)

1073 Added comment, -95 lbs is not last 6 months, I have been counting calls for last 6 months. Loss rate is about 1 lb per week.

Posted by: Fredlike at July 08, 2016 01:29 PM (AHd0y)

1074 RE: 1072

Fredlike, there's more to it than high fat high protein and eating less. By severely restricting carbs and reducing proteins in relation to fat, you prevent your body from storing excess energy as fat. So you can consume more calories than you burn, and not gain weight. However, you still need to burn more calories than you consume in order to burn through your fat reserves. Second, when your body is in ketosis, it is highly resistant to catabolism. Catabolism is the big flaw that most traditional diets fail to. When the body is starved for nutrients, it starts breaking down muscle in order to reduce energy demand and restock glycogen and fat reserves. So while you're able to initially lose weight, you stall out and ultimately do yourself more harm than good. By losing muscle mass, you reduce the amount of energy your body burns, and your once normal eating habits are now providing additional surplus calories versus what they used to provide prior to the diet.

Posted by: pete at July 08, 2016 02:53 PM (meg+g)

1075 Howdy, Y'all. Not sure if Ace or anyone is still lurking here but I'll drop this here anyway and then maybe drop it in a new thread if no one sees it here.

I am a big fella and need to drop a lot of weight for health and lifestyle reasons. Reading through the comments here there area a lot of inspirational stories such as Dot at 189 and many more. Reading those helps me see that this is something I can do.

I need to drop somewhere between 100-110 pounds. I've pretty much known for a long time what I needed to do to make it happen (LCHF, be more active, lay off the booze, eat more reasonable portions, get more sleep) but let's just say I haven't been willing to make the changes I need to make. Honestly the booze is probably the most important because some of the others will follow - at a minimum eating less and not eating late at night will follow.

I call myself a social drinker. By which I mean while I mix it up and sometimes drink beer & whiskey, I mostly drink red wine to the tune of at least a bottle a night on average. That leads to the munchies which leads to much munching. Which, combined with years worth of a desk job and long commutes has led to me cresting out close to 310. I'm a bit shy of that peak now but hot damn it doesn't feel like by much.

Anyway, I figure that I'd lose at least some weight just by dropping the booze to a reasonable amount if not altogether. Say, one or two glasses a night. Believe me, that would be a significant drop from where I am at the moment. So there would be the massive reduction in calories from booze intake plus the reduction in calories from booze-induced munching. I already almost never eat breakfast (aside from a couple cups of coffee) so that would leave me eating little to nothing from around 8pm until close to noon the following day.

It seems logical that if I'm not up boozing and drinking all night I will get better sleep which will afford me more time to add in some cardio and work my way back up the activity ladder from there. I hate running - always have - and would prefer to ride a bike but need to get to a low enough weight to keep the tires from flattening out when I get on the damn thing.

Anyway there it is in all its ugly truth. Thank God for anonymous commenting. This is cathartic, and more honest than I've ever been with anyone about this. Yeesh. If only I just didn't like the red wine so much...

Alright chaps and chapettes, that's my stream of consciousness for the evening. Would have jumped in while the thread was more active but I was too busy to do much more than lurk until this evening.

A couple exit questions:

For LCHF what is a reasonable carb intake? If I fix up some tacos with tortillas, cheese, veggies, beans, & ground beef are the carby tortillas ok? Or do I need to go jihad on carbs and wrap the fillings in lettuce?

I've tried to cut out carbs before but that cuts out so much delicious and convenient food. It really takes a lot more of an effort to eat more fats and proteins, you know? Easier to whip up a vat of spaghetti or order a pizza after a long day than to make a roast. Any tricks you hyper busy people have for doing low carb meal prep consistently?

Posted by: Texas Zombie at July 08, 2016 10:07 PM (SUtNI)

1076 Good luck, Texas Zombie.

For convenience, you can order a salad with meat for lunch instead of a pizza. It doesn't take much longer to brown hamburger than to make spaghetti, then you can add tomatoes and spices and have chili or tacos or taco chili (surprisingly good). Learn how to grill or roast vegetables and they can be awesome. If you get an instant pot or some other pressure cooker you can go from frozen roast to perfection in an hour and a half. They are low carb tortillas (~6 per serving) if you must.

You might look into a Whole 30 (look it up) to get yourself on the right track. That would mean no alcohol at all, though, for a month. But if you can't stop drinking for a month, doesn't that mean you really should just so you know you can?

If you get cravings, I have found a tablespoon of coconut oil plus a big glass of water will stop cravings within a minute or two.

Again, good luck. If you read my story above, maybe I'm not the one to give you advice. I maybe can get you to a plateau, but not beyond it

Posted by: mullingthingsover at July 08, 2016 10:46 PM (FIATw)

1077 Posted by: mullingthingsover at July 08, 2016 10:46 PM (FIATw)

Good stuff there. I definitely grill a lot of meats and veggies although less so now that we're in 100+ degree territory every day.

I used to periodically fast alcohol for anywhere from one to three months at a time just to prove to myself that I could. Sometimes my work gets busy and I have very little time to eat or drink. During those times I lose weight. Last time that happened I lost 15-20 pounds which felt great. But once my busy season was over I returned to old ways.

I've pretty much decided that in order for this to happen I have to want to be in reasonably good shape more than I want to self medicate on a daily basis. I think I'm getting there. Tired of being too big to do most fun stuff and having to buy clothes from specialty stores at inflated prices because I can't fit regular clothes. Also, it is sinking in more and more as I push 40 that if I don't make these changes now I may not be there for my kids in the long run. That's probably the biggest motivating thought of all.

For the last week I have quit buying wine and the only alcohol I've consumed has been beer that was already in the fridge. I have limited that to one or two beers each night. Already eating a lot less - only one serving at dinner and not doing the late night munching. Not really sleeping much more yet though because without the normal dosage to wind me down at night I'm still wired until late. But I suppose if I keep it up there will be balance in that area with time too.

Posted by: Texas Zombie at July 08, 2016 11:29 PM (SUtNI)

1078 I'm going to do a bit more looking. Already on high(er) fat, low carb. Accidentally fast, but don't do well with it. I am going to make a stab at this.

Thanks. Good luck yourself.

Posted by: Doom at July 09, 2016 12:03 AM (4JtYT)

1079 I figured this out in 1972 when there was only the original Atkins book out there. One high protein high fat very low carb meal per day (evening meal - steak), followed by 23-1/2 hours of nothing but black coffee or water. Lost 80lbs in 75 days. Been skinny ever since.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at July 09, 2016 12:41 PM (vk/bv)

1080 Ace- this whole thing about IF is so enlightening. I started in Feb with 16-8 and lost 17lbs in 7 weeks. I did zero exercise. I then started walking 30+ mins 5 days/week and lost another 16 in 6 weeks. Then I started getting too comfortable and have been on a plateau (along with some dislocated ribs, blah blah blah) My husband thought IF was a gimmick...later when he read it on here started believing! He trusts you more than his wife, dude! Anyhow, he has lost about 100lbs over the last 18 months and most of that was with skipping breakfast. Have you heard of EatStopEat? That, though very gimmicky, has some decent explanation for beginners. As does the Venus Index, though only for women. Quality calories in < calories out. Don't forget your resistance training, people! Thanks, Ace! This is good stuff! It isn't a diet, it is a whole new way of thinking.

Posted by: TenaciousT at July 09, 2016 10:11 PM (tfwhS)

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