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Is It the 4th?
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both passed on this day in 1826. They didn't get along too well, stubborn Americans that we all are, but in 1812 began reconciliation through letters (and even then they argued about aristocracy and good governance). They wrote 158 letters to one another. Adams, being Adams wrote 2x as many as Jefferson.
Happy Independence Day y'all.this story was reminded to me this morning from @Retread03 IMPORTANT UPDATE via @Slublog
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1st?
Posted by: L I V at July 04, 2016 09:49 AM (mvyKt)
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I love the story of those 2.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 09:54 AM (ml68g)
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They would have made a good "Odd Couple" sitcom.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 09:57 AM (jR7Wy)
4
And Monroe died in 1831
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 09:58 AM (HQP2c)
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It's Independence Day!
Which happens to fall on the 4th of July.
I know, nit picking fuddy duddy....I denounce myself.
and with that, I'm off to slay the day!
Which happens to fall on the 4th of July.
I know, nit picking fuddy duddy....I denounce myself.
and with that, I'm off to slay the day!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 04, 2016 10:00 AM (kKHcp)
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I have a North American history/Geography book printed in 1792, interesting what was the thinking back then....
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (HQP2c)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (kdS6q)
8
Someone at google screwed up big time. They have a star-spangled red, white & blue-themed doodle for Independence Day.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (7qAYi)
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(First time I've ever done this after being willowed. From last thread
Amidst the angst and gnashing of teeth of the current State of the
Union, it is appropriate to contemplate a quote from one of, if not the
20th Century's greatest philosopher:
"It ain't over 'til it's over."
-- Lawrence Peter Berra
Yeah,
we're down on the cultural scoreboard, but it ain't over yet. And
today, of all days, we need to ask 'Are we Americans, or American'ts?
Amidst the angst and gnashing of teeth of the current State of the
Union, it is appropriate to contemplate a quote from one of, if not the
20th Century's greatest philosopher:
"It ain't over 'til it's over."
-- Lawrence Peter Berra
Yeah,
we're down on the cultural scoreboard, but it ain't over yet. And
today, of all days, we need to ask 'Are we Americans, or American'ts?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (OF/aZ)
10
Thomas Jefferson still survives.
Posted by: John Adams' last words at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (eiFlk)
11
And Monroe died in 1831
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 09:58 AM (HQP2c)
Shit Marylyn looked pretty damn good for her age!
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 09:58 AM (HQP2c)
Shit Marylyn looked pretty damn good for her age!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 10:02 AM (Ozsfq)
12
Madison Monroe would be a good rock name.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:05 AM (7qAYi)
13
My flag has taken an awful beating in the past seven years. Sigh.
Posted by: Zombie Betsy Ross at July 04, 2016 10:06 AM (Tyii7)
14
Undoubtedly one of the greatest friendships in world history. Always fun to go back and read a few of the letters.
Posted by: person at July 04, 2016 10:06 AM (mFkVC)
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America in 2016:
My town's parade has nothing to do with celebrating independence and consists mainly of a-hole politicians and floats by local businesses selling their wares. I drove by the area where they all gather together to form up and what was the first float that I saw? A company that builds panic rooms.
My town's parade has nothing to do with celebrating independence and consists mainly of a-hole politicians and floats by local businesses selling their wares. I drove by the area where they all gather together to form up and what was the first float that I saw? A company that builds panic rooms.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (nFdGS)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (Dj0WE)
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13 My flag has taken an awful beating in the past seven years. Sigh.
Posted by: Zombie Betsy Ross at July 04, 2016 10:06 AM (Tyii7)
It's funny that the Betsy Ross story is largely discredited nowadays because it depends so much on the Ross family tradition, yet the oral histories of African & other pre-literate tribes are to be believed at face value.
Posted by: Zombie Betsy Ross at July 04, 2016 10:06 AM (Tyii7)
It's funny that the Betsy Ross story is largely discredited nowadays because it depends so much on the Ross family tradition, yet the oral histories of African & other pre-literate tribes are to be believed at face value.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (7qAYi)
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A company that builds panic rooms.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (nFdGS)
Getting cozy with the guy who runs Lockpicks and Crowbars Emporium, the next float over, no doubt.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (nFdGS)
Getting cozy with the guy who runs Lockpicks and Crowbars Emporium, the next float over, no doubt.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:11 AM (Dj0WE)
19
Because I was willowed, I am reposting this from the last thread, with additions:
I feel like I should know this, but sadly I don't. What was going on in
Canada in the 1770's? Why wasn't Canada part of the 13 colonies that
broke away from England? Was Canada a French colony at that time?
Canada had become a British colony after its capture during the French and Indian/Seven Year's War.
The War for Independence largely started because of concerns that the traditional
liberties of the English people were being eroded by resurgent
monarchical power, a concern that was very present in England itself (as well as Wales and Anglo-Ireland, but NOT Scotland, I believe) at
the time. The English had spent much of the preceding hundred and fifty years hashing out the limits of monarchical and parliamentary power, including a very bloody civil war, a bloody revolt that failed followed shortly by a bloodless revolution that led to a nasty little war in Ireland, and a couple Jacobite rebellions. To the British at the time these wars were fairly recent history, and they probably felt the same way about the Siege of Londonderry as we do about the Battle of the Bulge, for example. So for them, an power-seeking king was a threat to the liberties that their ancestors had fought to establish and re-awakening of a culturally-defining struggle of liberty against tyranny. (Sound familiar?)
The French, including the Canadians, had always lived under
absolutism, so they simply didn't have the cultural background of self
rule, limited monarchy, and rebellion against overly-assertive kings
that would have allowed them to sympathize with the rebellion. They
didn't much like the British either, of course, so when the Americans
invaded in 1775-6 (Quebec Expedition) they were friendly enough, but
they weren't motivated to fight for either side, I believe, and largely
stood by idly.
I feel like I should know this, but sadly I don't. What was going on in
Canada in the 1770's? Why wasn't Canada part of the 13 colonies that
broke away from England? Was Canada a French colony at that time?
Canada had become a British colony after its capture during the French and Indian/Seven Year's War.
The War for Independence largely started because of concerns that the traditional
liberties of the English people were being eroded by resurgent
monarchical power, a concern that was very present in England itself (as well as Wales and Anglo-Ireland, but NOT Scotland, I believe) at
the time. The English had spent much of the preceding hundred and fifty years hashing out the limits of monarchical and parliamentary power, including a very bloody civil war, a bloody revolt that failed followed shortly by a bloodless revolution that led to a nasty little war in Ireland, and a couple Jacobite rebellions. To the British at the time these wars were fairly recent history, and they probably felt the same way about the Siege of Londonderry as we do about the Battle of the Bulge, for example. So for them, an power-seeking king was a threat to the liberties that their ancestors had fought to establish and re-awakening of a culturally-defining struggle of liberty against tyranny. (Sound familiar?)
The French, including the Canadians, had always lived under
absolutism, so they simply didn't have the cultural background of self
rule, limited monarchy, and rebellion against overly-assertive kings
that would have allowed them to sympathize with the rebellion. They
didn't much like the British either, of course, so when the Americans
invaded in 1775-6 (Quebec Expedition) they were friendly enough, but
they weren't motivated to fight for either side, I believe, and largely
stood by idly.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 10:12 AM (bZ7mE)
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8 Someone at google screwed up big time. They have a star-spangled red, white & blue-themed doodle for Independence Day.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (7qAYi)
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Well, it's something, but shouldn't it have merited one of their animations?
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:01 AM (7qAYi)
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Well, it's something, but shouldn't it have merited one of their animations?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 10:12 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 10:13 AM (bZ7mE)
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I crossed the Delaware for mom jeans, ghey wedding cakes, microaggression and tranny soldiers. Sigh.
Posted by: Zombie George Washington at July 04, 2016 10:13 AM (Tyii7)
23
Google is pathetic. Haven't used them for years.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 10:16 AM (ml68g)
24
Happy Secession Day!
Posted by: rfichoke at July 04, 2016 10:16 AM (vLCft)
25
@20 Be grateful they didnt have a trans child Guatemalan pre-citizen in the likeness of the Statue of Liberty
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 04, 2016 10:16 AM (3Rr8K)
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Be grateful they didnt have a trans child Guatemalan pre-citizen in the likeness of the Statue of Liberty
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 04, 2016 10:16 AM (3Rr8K)
Yet?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 04, 2016 10:16 AM (3Rr8K)
Yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 10:17 AM (Ozsfq)
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God Bless America.
God Bless Texas! (and all the rest of y'all 'rons & 'ettes, too, by the way.)
TEXIT!/b]
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
God Bless Texas! (and all the rest of y'all 'rons & 'ettes, too, by the way.)
TEXIT!/b]
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 10:20 AM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 10:21 AM (v5iqM)
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Going running with the dog now. Priorities. I cant say have a great 4th in light of the state of our Union. But I hope everyone finds something to celebrate , something to remember and something to aspire to.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 04, 2016 10:22 AM (3Rr8K)
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3
They would have made a good "Odd Couple" sitcom.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage
Yeah, especially that Oscar Madison guy. I mean, a sportswriter AND the author of the Constitution? Not too shabby.
They would have made a good "Odd Couple" sitcom.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage
Yeah, especially that Oscar Madison guy. I mean, a sportswriter AND the author of the Constitution? Not too shabby.
Posted by: pep at July 04, 2016 10:22 AM (3e8zv)
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27 God Bless America.
God Bless Texas! (and all the rest of y'all 'rons & 'ettes, too, by the way.)
TEXIT!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 10:20 AM (v5iqM)
If Texas secedes, I will move there. I'll miss SC, but it's full of statists nowadays who wouldn't get off the Federal dole if threatened at gunpoint.
God Bless Texas! (and all the rest of y'all 'rons & 'ettes, too, by the way.)
TEXIT!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 10:20 AM (v5iqM)
If Texas secedes, I will move there. I'll miss SC, but it's full of statists nowadays who wouldn't get off the Federal dole if threatened at gunpoint.
Posted by: rfichoke at July 04, 2016 10:22 AM (vLCft)
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Also, early OT: what is going on with all the Brit politicians dropping out? Cameron (no great loss), then Johnson, now Farage? Who's left to mind the shop?
Posted by: pep at July 04, 2016 10:23 AM (3e8zv)
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When we were stationed in Italy, there would always be a large local celebration of our American Independence Day, with an American cookout at the small MWR facility off base, followed by local Italian fireworks, food, wined celebration of our Nations Independence.
Good times with great people.
Good times with great people.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:25 AM (ptqRm)
34
canada was royalist and became more so after the war. England gave tracts of land in Canada to their soldiers who had fought in the revolutionary war. Technically still part of the commonwealth
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (zOTsN)
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Ponder this.
Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (NeFrd)
36
1813, June 28: Adams to Jefferson_____________
The general Principles, on which the Fathers Atchieved Independence, were the only Principles in
which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite . . . . And what were these general
Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all those Sects were United: And
the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and
which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.
Now I will avow, that I then believed, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity,
are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty,
are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System
The general Principles, on which the Fathers Atchieved Independence, were the only Principles in
which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite . . . . And what were these general
Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all those Sects were United: And
the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and
which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.
Now I will avow, that I then believed, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity,
are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty,
are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System
Posted by: Menken at July 04, 2016 10:28 AM (wZq3U)
37
"Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence."
Brash upstarts...
Youngsters, the both of them.
Not even old enough to be upon Vic's yard.
Brash upstarts...
Youngsters, the both of them.
Not even old enough to be upon Vic's yard.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:28 AM (ptqRm)
38
When we were kids we use to sing a medley of songs that would probably now get the teacher fired:
Swing Low Sweet Chariot
Go Down Moses
Shenandoah
Dixie
Waiting For the Robert E. Lee
And my all time favorite - Battle Hymn of the Republic!
When we were kids we use to sing a medley of songs that would probably now get the teacher fired:
Swing Low Sweet Chariot
Go Down Moses
Shenandoah
Dixie
Waiting For the Robert E. Lee
And my all time favorite - Battle Hymn of the Republic!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:30 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:32 AM (iQIUe)
40
Not even old enough to be upon Vic's yard.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:28 AM (ptqRm)
----
**does donuts on Vic's lawn, rides off laughing**
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:28 AM (ptqRm)
----
**does donuts on Vic's lawn, rides off laughing**
Posted by: T-Paine at July 04, 2016 10:32 AM (jR7Wy)
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I noticed recently that the local parade has a lack of bands and band wagons. (Band wagons were a must in earlier times, I was always told, because the streets were full of potholes, and would break up a marching band)
When I was a kid, my family used to do a band-wagon, usually a hay truck with bunting. It was something to do, all my Mom's family played instruments, and a number were members in orchestras and bands. It was loads of fun.
I figured I could sponsor a prize for band wagons through the local Elk's, having them supply the judges through the parade route, and doing the presenting at the end, and the formal announcement at whatever function they wanted at the later festivities at the park.
The bands would be required to play appropriate songs, and would be judged on: did they play when they passed the judge, did they mostly get on key, and did they mostly play together?
I figure $1000 would be decent prize to split three ways. Not enough to tempt real professionals, and enough to cover the loan of a hay truck or stakebed wagon.
When I was a kid, my family used to do a band-wagon, usually a hay truck with bunting. It was something to do, all my Mom's family played instruments, and a number were members in orchestras and bands. It was loads of fun.
I figured I could sponsor a prize for band wagons through the local Elk's, having them supply the judges through the parade route, and doing the presenting at the end, and the formal announcement at whatever function they wanted at the later festivities at the park.
The bands would be required to play appropriate songs, and would be judged on: did they play when they passed the judge, did they mostly get on key, and did they mostly play together?
I figure $1000 would be decent prize to split three ways. Not enough to tempt real professionals, and enough to cover the loan of a hay truck or stakebed wagon.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 10:32 AM (ry34m)
42
Meddling kids!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 10:32 AM (IqV8l)
43
Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (NeFrd)
Why, they were barely off their parents' health insurance.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (NeFrd)
Why, they were barely off their parents' health insurance.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:34 AM (7qAYi)
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>> Not even old enough to be upon Vic's yard.
'The Dandelions are Coming...
The Dandelions is Coming!'
'The Dandelions are Coming...
The Dandelions is Coming!'
Posted by: Paul Revere at July 04, 2016 10:34 AM (VNYbF)
45
Like we can possibly understand anything they said to each other!
Posted by: Ezra Klein at July 04, 2016 10:35 AM (XkVXQ)
Posted by: J-Adams at July 04, 2016 10:35 AM (ptqRm)
47
Where's Muldoon?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:37 AM (ptqRm)
48
34 canada was royalist and became more so after the war
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (zOTsN)
Yes, and I'm guessing that's because that's where all American Tories fled to after 1789 when it turned out that they had bet on the wrong horse.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (zOTsN)
Yes, and I'm guessing that's because that's where all American Tories fled to after 1789 when it turned out that they had bet on the wrong horse.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 10:37 AM (i3YHF)
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 10:39 AM (VNYbF)
Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2016 10:39 AM (yOqwj)
51
Ponder this.
Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (NeFrd)
I do not have a high opinion of Jefferson. A sort of modern day equivalent would be Marco Rubio. Lots of pretty words. Not much in the way of doing. Loved him some foreigners too.
Adams was 40 years old and Jefferson was 33 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (NeFrd)
I do not have a high opinion of Jefferson. A sort of modern day equivalent would be Marco Rubio. Lots of pretty words. Not much in the way of doing. Loved him some foreigners too.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:39 AM (Dj0WE)
52
The "Shot Heard 'Round the World" at Concord, was the original Trigger Warning.
Need a graphic of that for a tee shirt?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Need a graphic of that for a tee shirt?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 10:39 AM (v5iqM)
53
Meanwhile...at the gay pride parade in Toronto, the black lives matter people extorted the danegeld --- a new tyranny is upon us.
Oh well, just another far right group getting their comeuppance. Oh, wait
Oh well, just another far right group getting their comeuppance. Oh, wait
Posted by: Ed gibbon at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (vRNwc)
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (VNYbF)
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As a mental exercise, Imagine that instead of our current Nation,a United Umma of Islam had been created in it's place.
Changes to the Declaration Of Independence?
Bill of Rights?
Effects on the industrial revolution?
What the world would look like today.
And so on...
Feel free to discuss
Changes to the Declaration Of Independence?
Bill of Rights?
Effects on the industrial revolution?
What the world would look like today.
And so on...
Feel free to discuss
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:41 AM (ptqRm)
56
>>I do not have a high opinion of Jefferson.
-------------------------------
You and me both, buddy.
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (VNYbF)
Quiet, you. We gave you the $10 bill. Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
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You and me both, buddy.
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (VNYbF)
Quiet, you. We gave you the $10 bill. Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:42 AM (Dj0WE)
57
>> As a mental exercise, Imagine that instead of our current Nation,a United Umma of Islam had been created in it's place.
Effects on the industrial revolution?
Well, we'd be the #1 Manufacturer of Synthetic Hymens.
Effects on the industrial revolution?
Well, we'd be the #1 Manufacturer of Synthetic Hymens.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 10:43 AM (VNYbF)
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>>We gave you the $10 bill. Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 10:44 AM (VNYbF)
Posted by: pep at July 04, 2016 10:45 AM (3e8zv)
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Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
*****
All I wanted was America west of the Blue Ridge for my new nation of Irrationalia. Apparently that was just too much to ask.
*****
All I wanted was America west of the Blue Ridge for my new nation of Irrationalia. Apparently that was just too much to ask.
Posted by: zombie Aaron Burr at July 04, 2016 10:45 AM (NeFrd)
61
>>We gave you the $10 bill. Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
>You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
FUNNY : BECAUSE BURR'S MOTHER WAS KIND OF A WHORE.
>You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
FUNNY : BECAUSE BURR'S MOTHER WAS KIND OF A WHORE.
Posted by: John Jay at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (VNYbF)
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"Doesn't really capture the spirit of the holiday, and coincidentally, doesn't remind people of certain unpleasant truths."
Oh, gawd.
Do we, as conservatives, really need to turn EVERY holiday into a kultur kampf, "struggle session"?!
Happy 4th of July!!!
Moved back to the belly of the beast (Illinois) almost a year ago and I LOVE to hear all the boats on the Fox River, playing shitty music, setting off M-80's!
It's fun!
4th of July is a HAPPY holiday!
Do you know who has two thumbs and a fist-full of lit fire-crackers?
(for the next 30 seconds)
THIS Gal!
*does the double backwards thumb point, hurls away mini explosives*
'Merica, Fuck Yeahh!
Oh, gawd.
Do we, as conservatives, really need to turn EVERY holiday into a kultur kampf, "struggle session"?!
Happy 4th of July!!!
Moved back to the belly of the beast (Illinois) almost a year ago and I LOVE to hear all the boats on the Fox River, playing shitty music, setting off M-80's!
It's fun!
4th of July is a HAPPY holiday!
Do you know who has two thumbs and a fist-full of lit fire-crackers?
(for the next 30 seconds)
THIS Gal!
*does the double backwards thumb point, hurls away mini explosives*
'Merica, Fuck Yeahh!
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (xPWMR)
63
Remember back in the day when we had a summer blockbuster movie that was worth watching?
Posted by: mrp at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (JBggj)
64
"Well, we'd be the #1 Manufacturer of Synthetic Hymens."
Would we have developments in medical science which would have allowed these to be created?
And
Would we have Doctors who would perform such procedures on women who were not their wife?
Would we have developments in medical science which would have allowed these to be created?
And
Would we have Doctors who would perform such procedures on women who were not their wife?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (ptqRm)
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61 >>We gave you the $10 bill. Which is more than we did for Aaron Burr.
>You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
FUNNY : BECAUSE BURR'S MOTHER WAS KIND OF A WHORE.
Posted by: John Jay at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (VNYbF)
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And it's off like Abigail's panties!
>You would have been better served giving that $10 to Aaron Burr's Mother.
FUNNY : BECAUSE BURR'S MOTHER WAS KIND OF A WHORE.
Posted by: John Jay at July 04, 2016 10:46 AM (VNYbF)
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And it's off like Abigail's panties!
Posted by: T-Paine at July 04, 2016 10:47 AM (jR7Wy)
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'God Of Our Fathers' also known as National Hymn written in 1876 by Daniel C. Roberts. Verse 4.-
'Refresh thy people on their toilsome way,
lead us from night to never ending day;
fill all our lives with love and grace divine,
and glory, laud, and praise be ever thine.
Timely.
'Refresh thy people on their toilsome way,
lead us from night to never ending day;
fill all our lives with love and grace divine,
and glory, laud, and praise be ever thine.
Timely.
Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2016 10:47 AM (zLDYs)
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>>Would we have Doctors who would perform such procedures on women who were not their wife?
Most synthetic hymen attachments fail in the first week due to honor rapings of the patient.
Most synthetic hymen attachments fail in the first week due to honor rapings of the patient.
Posted by: American Islamic Medical Association at July 04, 2016 10:48 AM (VNYbF)
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"Remember back in the day when we had a summer blockbuster movie that was worth watching?"
I'm sort of partial to the original Independence Day, with Will Smith.
A very fun, feel good movie.
I'm sort of partial to the original Independence Day, with Will Smith.
A very fun, feel good movie.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:48 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:48 AM (iQIUe)
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Deety, who be ya?
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 10:49 AM (ml68g)
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>> Remember back in the day when we had a summer blockbuster movie that was worth watching?
Abigail Adams Stars in...
THE WET, HOT WIFE
Abigail Adams Stars in...
THE WET, HOT WIFE
Posted by: Zombie Jefferson at July 04, 2016 10:49 AM (VNYbF)
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As a mental exercise, Imagine that instead of our current Nation,a United Umma of Islam had been created in it's place.
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Well, for one, place names would be different. We would have seen Bugs Bunny take a left turn at Alburka-querque
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Well, for one, place names would be different. We would have seen Bugs Bunny take a left turn at Alburka-querque
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:49 AM (NeFrd)
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How. geez
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 10:50 AM (ml68g)
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And I kinda liked "The Patriot", with Mel Gibson, and the late Heath Ledger.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:50 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 04, 2016 10:51 AM (VNYbF)
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Not saying Aaron Burr's mother was a whore or anything but she really knew how to make a lightning rod stand straight up and tingle, iykwim....
Posted by: Ben Franklin at July 04, 2016 10:51 AM (MNzex)
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"Remember back in the day when we had a summer blockbuster movie that was worth watching?"
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I'm sort of partial to the original Independence Day, with Will Smith.
A very fun, feel good movie.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:48 AM (ptqRm)
Apparently the new one is a wretched, miserable POS.
Which it should be, because its very existence essentially negates the original. Which, they don't care.
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I'm sort of partial to the original Independence Day, with Will Smith.
A very fun, feel good movie.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:48 AM (ptqRm)
Apparently the new one is a wretched, miserable POS.
Which it should be, because its very existence essentially negates the original. Which, they don't care.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:51 AM (Dj0WE)
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"We would have seen Bugs Bunny take a left turn at Alburka-querque"
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And PunMaster Seamus brings it!
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And PunMaster Seamus brings it!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (ptqRm)
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They bitched at Farage to quit. Now they are bitching at Farage for quitting. You can never please leftards.
They bitched at Farage to quit. Now they are bitching at Farage for quitting. You can never please leftards.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (iQIUe)
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As a mental exercise, Imagine that instead of our current Nation,a United Umma of Islam had been created in it's place.
Happy Fourth of July everybody!
Happy Fourth of July everybody!
Posted by: The United States of Goatfuckistan at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (XkVXQ)
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I am very fond of Jefferson. A very principled and idealistic man. The tragedy is not that he was flawed, since all men are flawed, but that he had to bend to political realities.
The saving grace is that he bent to political realities for his country and its protection, not for his personal gain.
The saving grace is that he bent to political realities for his country and its protection, not for his personal gain.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (ry34m)
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Speaking of horses...
In New Zealand, police find $10 million in cocaine bricks inside the sculpture of one.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36697323
Now that would have been some red, white, and blow...
In New Zealand, police find $10 million in cocaine bricks inside the sculpture of one.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36697323
Now that would have been some red, white, and blow...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (0SMdI)
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo at July 04, 2016 10:53 AM (ptqRm)
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And I kinda liked "The Patriot", with Mel Gibson, and the late Heath Ledger.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:50 AM (ptqRm)
Meh. "American Braveheart," or "How I Hate the British, Part II."
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:50 AM (ptqRm)
Meh. "American Braveheart," or "How I Hate the British, Part II."
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 10:53 AM (Dj0WE)
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I think the next logical step for Farage would be to get his own offshore drilling rig and declare independence from Britain.
UcanKIPxit!
UcanKIPxit!
Posted by: T-Paine at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (jR7Wy)
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>>The saving grace is that he bent to political realities for his country and its protection, not for his personal gain.
Except when he (and Madison) did.
See DC.
Except when he (and Madison) did.
See DC.
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (VNYbF)
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And I kinda liked "The Patriot", with Mel Gibson, and the late Heath Ledger.
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And, oh, how the Brits howled. The church-burning scene was a bit much, but there were enough English-Loyalist atrocities during the war to earn an "eh ...".
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And, oh, how the Brits howled. The church-burning scene was a bit much, but there were enough English-Loyalist atrocities during the war to earn an "eh ...".
Posted by: mrp at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (JBggj)
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Happy 4th, all!
Son went to see new Independence Day and said it sucked.
And he's invited his in-and-out of rehab, teenage female cousin to join us this afternoon. She's visiting friends in the area.
Yay. Spending the holiday with a spoiled, hot mess.
Son went to see new Independence Day and said it sucked.
And he's invited his in-and-out of rehab, teenage female cousin to join us this afternoon. She's visiting friends in the area.
Yay. Spending the holiday with a spoiled, hot mess.
Posted by: The JEF at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (1ZOkK)
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The Crisis, by Thomas Paine
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their
country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of
man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have
this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more
glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly:
it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how
to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if
so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their
country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of
man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have
this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more
glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly:
it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how
to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if
so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (Cz05v)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (NeFrd)
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Off, mincing sock.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 10:54 AM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 10:55 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 10:56 AM (VNYbF)
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Off, firebrand sock!
Listening to the national anthem reminds me of being in on-base theaters and the crusty old guys who would roust young punks such as myself and make us stand during it.
Listening to the national anthem reminds me of being in on-base theaters and the crusty old guys who would roust young punks such as myself and make us stand during it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 10:57 AM (jR7Wy)
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And he's invited his in-and-out of rehab, teenage female cousin to join us this afternoon.
Early or late teens?
Early or late teens?
Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 04, 2016 10:57 AM (XkVXQ)
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Historically The Patriot (2000) is pretty bad.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 10:57 AM (Yo9Lf)
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**does donuts on Vic's lawn, rides off laughing**
Posted by: T-Paine
**lights bag of dog poo at Vic's front door**
Posted by: T-Paine
**lights bag of dog poo at Vic's front door**
Posted by: G-Washington at July 04, 2016 10:58 AM (RrDm2)
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On second thought, let's leave Islam out of today. Eff 'em.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 10:59 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 10:59 AM (jR7Wy)
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Watching John Paul Jones (1959) with Robert Stack on TMC
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 10:59 AM (Yo9Lf)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 11:00 AM (NeFrd)
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So, Hobby Lobby ran this full page in papers across the country today:
http://tinyurl.com/zsmohu8
It is all kinds of awesome for the 4th. Liberal heads can be heard exploding across the fruited plains.
http://tinyurl.com/zsmohu8
It is all kinds of awesome for the 4th. Liberal heads can be heard exploding across the fruited plains.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:00 AM (0SMdI)
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"On second thought, let's leave Islam out of today. Eff 'em."
I was wondering about the appropriateness of the topic, during the celebration of our Nations Independence.
But, I think it would be worth discussion on another day.
A real Alt-History sort of thing.
I was wondering about the appropriateness of the topic, during the celebration of our Nations Independence.
But, I think it would be worth discussion on another day.
A real Alt-History sort of thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 11:01 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:01 AM (VNYbF)
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Rhodesisde Bomb Island
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:01 AM (VNYbF)
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Very nice article in sidebar by that ponce Charles C.W. Cooke.
If I cannot explain to my son how lucky he is to have been born here — and if I cannot demonstrate what a heavy responsibility it is to keep the candle burning — I do not deserve to be called “Dad.”
If I cannot explain to my son how lucky he is to have been born here — and if I cannot demonstrate what a heavy responsibility it is to keep the candle burning — I do not deserve to be called “Dad.”
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 11:02 AM (jR7Wy)
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Dear Blue State America;
I never thought I'd be writing this. Especially on Independence Day.
I know the Fourth of July is not a good time to bring this up. But this whole Brexit thing has me thinking. We both know something is wrong. Very wrong. And it has been for a long, long time.
I don't want you to blame yourself. It's not you--it's me.
Okay, it is you. And, really, I do want you to blame yourself. I do.
We're not the United States of America anymore. We're not really united. And it looks like we're never going to be united again. We were united after 9/11. For about ten minutes, until you discovered there was political advantage in running for the tall grass.
We're barely even states anymore, either. We're just administrative districts of the Federal Blob. That's exactly why Brexit voters voted to leave.
I'm not talking about a Revolution. Or a Civil War. Or Secession. And certainly not a new Confederacy. Hell no.
I'm talking about an American Brexit. ...cont.
I never thought I'd be writing this. Especially on Independence Day.
I know the Fourth of July is not a good time to bring this up. But this whole Brexit thing has me thinking. We both know something is wrong. Very wrong. And it has been for a long, long time.
I don't want you to blame yourself. It's not you--it's me.
Okay, it is you. And, really, I do want you to blame yourself. I do.
We're not the United States of America anymore. We're not really united. And it looks like we're never going to be united again. We were united after 9/11. For about ten minutes, until you discovered there was political advantage in running for the tall grass.
We're barely even states anymore, either. We're just administrative districts of the Federal Blob. That's exactly why Brexit voters voted to leave.
I'm not talking about a Revolution. Or a Civil War. Or Secession. And certainly not a new Confederacy. Hell no.
I'm talking about an American Brexit. ...cont.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 04, 2016 11:02 AM (Ndje9)
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You British shall relinquish your arms and henceforth return to your ships and leave my beloved South Carolina and free American Colonies......
BUT FIRST YOU WILL BLOW ME
BUT FIRST YOU WILL BLOW ME
Posted by: Mel Gibson in The Patriot at July 04, 2016 11:02 AM (MNzex)
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They bitched at Farage to quit. Now they are bitching at Farage for quitting. You can never please leftards.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (iQIUe)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (iQIUe)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Sarah Palin at July 04, 2016 11:02 AM (XVTvT)
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...yet the oral histories of African other pre-literate tribes are to be believed at face value.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (7qAYi)
Me see'um no problem here.
Posted by: josephistan at July 04, 2016 10:08 AM (7qAYi)
Me see'um no problem here.
Posted by: Liawatha Warren at July 04, 2016 11:03 AM (GUBah)
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Happy Independence Day. Still the best hope of the world. Blessed to be born here.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 11:03 AM (zOTsN)
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The Political Hat posted this on the ONT last night, a thread that we hijacked for movies, from 1776.
https://youtu.be/VgEenf-TIMI
https://youtu.be/VgEenf-TIMI
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:04 AM (0SMdI)
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Jane- That was in our local rag. I pulled it out to save.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 11:04 AM (ml68g)
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Have a safe and wonderful day, all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 11:05 AM (1ZOkK)
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In New Zealand, police find $10 million in cocaine bricks inside the sculpture of one.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36697323
Now that would have been some red, white, and blow...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (0SMdI)
That's a horse head?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36697323
Now that would have been some red, white, and blow...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 10:52 AM (0SMdI)
That's a horse head?
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 11:05 AM (HQP2c)
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Jane- That was in our local rag. I pulled it out to save.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 11:04 AM (ml68g)
Same here. Liberals are constantly telling us that our Founders weren't religious at all. That page pretty much rips that idea to shreds.
Jane- That was in our local rag. I pulled it out to save.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 11:04 AM (ml68g)
Same here. Liberals are constantly telling us that our Founders weren't religious at all. That page pretty much rips that idea to shreds.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 11:06 AM (1ZOkK)
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104 "On second thought, let's leave Islam out of today. Eff 'em."
Why, Islamic-Americans have been part of our nation's story from the very beginning. Leaving them out, now, that's not who we are.
Why, Islamic-Americans have been part of our nation's story from the very beginning. Leaving them out, now, that's not who we are.
Posted by: The Jug-Eared Fuck at July 04, 2016 11:09 AM (e8zmj)
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But, I think it would be worth discussion on another day.
A real Alt-History sort of thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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Perhaps, although purely fantasy, seeing as how Islam is such a hotbed of classical liberal philosophy.
A real Alt-History sort of thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
*****
Perhaps, although purely fantasy, seeing as how Islam is such a hotbed of classical liberal philosophy.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 11:09 AM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:09 AM (0SMdI)
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Abbie Hunstman looks delicious.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:10 AM (VNYbF)
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Happy 4th of July, my American friends.
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 04, 2016 11:11 AM (s7hQ/)
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CNN as usual found the worst possible pic of Nigel Farage to post, much like they always have Trump with a evil look, and Hillary looking like she is communicating with God.
Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2016 11:11 AM (HQP2c)
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"My town's parade has nothing to do with celebrating independence and consists mainly of a-hole politicians and floats by local businesses selling their wares. I drove by the area where they all gather together to form up and what was the first float that I saw? A company that builds panic rooms."
So...what's your itch?
Are you fucking 3 years old or something?
Yeah, town parades, (in my experience) are mostly local business owners trying to drum up business, because otherwise, no one would give a shit.
Also?, that horse and carriage team? Does not give a SHIT about your St. Patrick's Day Parade. Mostly spent trying to come to terms with balloons.
(Gawd do horsies HATE fucking balloons.)
Mo
Is the Panic Room company hiring?
So...what's your itch?
Are you fucking 3 years old or something?
Yeah, town parades, (in my experience) are mostly local business owners trying to drum up business, because otherwise, no one would give a shit.
Also?, that horse and carriage team? Does not give a SHIT about your St. Patrick's Day Parade. Mostly spent trying to come to terms with balloons.
(Gawd do horsies HATE fucking balloons.)
Mo
Is the Panic Room company hiring?
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 11:12 AM (xPWMR)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 11:13 AM (ptqRm)
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Found my John Phillips Souza CD! The neighbors will love me this afternoon.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 11:13 AM (ml68g)
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Is it OK to bitch about my rights though?
Saw yesterday on Hotair a leftist court OKed a ruling allowing municipality and townships to have their firearm laws. Up till now Pennsylvania has kept firearm laws equal throughout the state. This will allow places to enact leftist laws against magazine limits, folding stocks, or type of firearms for instance. Philadelphia and Allentown mayors were particularly proclaiming the usefulness of such laws.
Saw yesterday on Hotair a leftist court OKed a ruling allowing municipality and townships to have their firearm laws. Up till now Pennsylvania has kept firearm laws equal throughout the state. This will allow places to enact leftist laws against magazine limits, folding stocks, or type of firearms for instance. Philadelphia and Allentown mayors were particularly proclaiming the usefulness of such laws.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (Yo9Lf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (0SMdI)
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Never give up. We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable Rights. No man in the wrong can stand against a man in the right who keeps on coming.
Got a little Churchill, Jefferson and McDonald in there. Something for everybody.
Got a little Churchill, Jefferson and McDonald in there. Something for everybody.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 04, 2016 11:15 AM (5CiUZ)
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I am curious what the British political landscrape is becoming. I pay so little attention to it, but now the PM is resigning, the guy who was his heir apparent says he's not running, and the guy who instituted Britain's exit is retiring from politics.
Things are different over there, they seem to quaintly have this notion that politics should not be an all-consuming thing for its leaders.
Still... who leads the exit? Seems to me the globalists could just as easily overturn this thing, if they are duplicitous enough. Which...
Things are different over there, they seem to quaintly have this notion that politics should not be an all-consuming thing for its leaders.
Still... who leads the exit? Seems to me the globalists could just as easily overturn this thing, if they are duplicitous enough. Which...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:15 AM (Dj0WE)
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So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat.
Class.
Class.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at July 04, 2016 11:15 AM (waSFb)
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Mel Gibson's The Patriot took some liberties with history, but the overall point and feel of the movie conveys 1. Not all of the colonists were on board with leaving England. In fact, I believe the revolutionaries were a minority. Hence, Gibson's character in the movie's pacifism and reluctance to join in the fight.
2. The perseverance of those who fought despite when things looked like it was going to end badly for the colonists. Continuing the fight when your own family has been killed, etc.
The obvious difference in lifestyles and class stations between the British officers and the colonists. Neither could understand the other's life and needs and therefore, being ruled by one was ruination.
It was not a documentary. It was historical fiction. I'm always amazed at the historical purists who bitch at the details and completely overlook the overall message and theme of the movie.
Not to mention that the score is very moving and inspiring.
2. The perseverance of those who fought despite when things looked like it was going to end badly for the colonists. Continuing the fight when your own family has been killed, etc.
The obvious difference in lifestyles and class stations between the British officers and the colonists. Neither could understand the other's life and needs and therefore, being ruled by one was ruination.
It was not a documentary. It was historical fiction. I'm always amazed at the historical purists who bitch at the details and completely overlook the overall message and theme of the movie.
Not to mention that the score is very moving and inspiring.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (waSFb)
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But hasn't out POTUSA told us how Islam has shaped the United States from the beginning?
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (Yo9Lf)
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I bet that pinata is full of rolex watches, because candy is just so plebian.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 11:17 AM (ry34m)
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But hasn't out POTUSA told us how Islam has shaped the United States from the beginning?
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (Yo9Lf)
Which is why our founders quoted from the Quran so much more than the Bible. </sarcasm>
But hasn't out POTUSA told us how Islam has shaped the United States from the beginning?
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (Yo9Lf)
Which is why our founders quoted from the Quran so much more than the Bible. </sarcasm>
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at July 04, 2016 11:17 AM (waSFb)
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>> So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat.
They do know you are supposed to beat the Pinata with a stick not rape it, or drown it?
They do know you are supposed to beat the Pinata with a stick not rape it, or drown it?
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:17 AM (VNYbF)
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A Kennedy pinata is probably full of candy wrappers of coke and little sampler bottles of Makers Mark...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:18 AM (0SMdI)
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"They do know you are supposed to beat the Pinata with a stick not rape it, or drown it?"
Are they flying it up there on a private plane?
Might wanna have a Plan B
Are they flying it up there on a private plane?
Might wanna have a Plan B
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 11:19 AM (ptqRm)
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Saw yesterday on Hotair a leftist court OKed a ruling allowing municipality and townships to have their firearm laws.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (Yo9Lf)
Heh. Ever notice how, when it comes to furthering their agenda, progressives get all federalist and small government and shit? But if it's something like abortion, well, that has to be national policy, not left up to the locals.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (Yo9Lf)
Heh. Ever notice how, when it comes to furthering their agenda, progressives get all federalist and small government and shit? But if it's something like abortion, well, that has to be national policy, not left up to the locals.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 11:19 AM (e8zmj)
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And Ambien, Anna.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 11:19 AM (ry34m)
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Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
But but but, the son died on a Wednesday even though the movie clearly implied Thursday!
Burn the witch! Purity now!
But but but, the son died on a Wednesday even though the movie clearly implied Thursday!
Burn the witch! Purity now!
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 11:20 AM (pz8nD)
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Oh, if only I had a boat. Get some speakers and play "Bridge over troubled waters" just off shore from them. The Kennedy's - they love them some bridges - especially ones they can't drive across.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at July 04, 2016 11:20 AM (waSFb)
Posted by: artist at July 04, 2016 11:21 AM (TwnkX)
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"They do know you are supposed to beat the Pinata with a stick not rape it, or drown it?"
****
Then run over it in an Oldsmobile and throw it in the Atlantic Ocean 5 miles short of the runway.
****
Then run over it in an Oldsmobile and throw it in the Atlantic Ocean 5 miles short of the runway.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 11:22 AM (NeFrd)
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I'm always amazed at the historical purists who bitch at the details and completely overlook the overall message and theme of the movie.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
Oh, I think we got the overall message and theme of the movie: Mel Gibson hates the British.
People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters, doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
Oh, I think we got the overall message and theme of the movie: Mel Gibson hates the British.
People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters, doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
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Do something different for 4th of July.
Run down to the range and rent/shoot a machingun just to get a feel for it for when Independence day 2 arrives.
Run down to the range and rent/shoot a machingun just to get a feel for it for when Independence day 2 arrives.
Posted by: Drider at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (6Xbsz)
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Not all of the colonists were on board with leaving
England. In fact, I believe the revolutionaries were a minority.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
Hence the notion of "Three Percenters", based on the apocryphal statistic that only 3% of the colonists actively fought in the war.
England. In fact, I believe the revolutionaries were a minority.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:16 AM (HbTvc)
Hence the notion of "Three Percenters", based on the apocryphal statistic that only 3% of the colonists actively fought in the war.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (GUBah)
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Saw yesterday on Hotair a leftist court OKed a ruling allowing municipality and townships to have their firearm laws.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (Yo9Lf)
Heh.
Ever notice how, when it comes to furthering their agenda, progressives
get all federalist and small government and shit? But if it's something
like abortion, well, that has to be national policy, not left up to the
locals.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 11:19 AM (e8zmj)
Court in Pennsylvania made the ruling.When we look at the lawlessness and lack of accountability in all levels of government - especially over the last 10-15 years, you can see why localities can give the middle finger to state/federal government without fear of retribution. The problem is, this is only OK when it is for leftist causes.We are witnessing the breakdown of society and the rule of law. And it is happening at an ever increasing rate. This is not going to end well.
Saw yesterday on Hotair a leftist court OKed a ruling allowing municipality and townships to have their firearm laws.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:14 AM (Yo9Lf)
Heh.
Ever notice how, when it comes to furthering their agenda, progressives
get all federalist and small government and shit? But if it's something
like abortion, well, that has to be national policy, not left up to the
locals.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 11:19 AM (e8zmj)
Court in Pennsylvania made the ruling.When we look at the lawlessness and lack of accountability in all levels of government - especially over the last 10-15 years, you can see why localities can give the middle finger to state/federal government without fear of retribution. The problem is, this is only OK when it is for leftist causes.We are witnessing the breakdown of society and the rule of law. And it is happening at an ever increasing rate. This is not going to end well.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at July 04, 2016 11:26 AM (waSFb)
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Heck, when a Kennedy piñata bursts it probably releases a crew of gardeners and housekeepers who swarm over the Hyannisport grounds at the behest of whichever Kennedy brat struck the decisive blow.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 11:26 AM (NeFrd)
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But but but, the son died on a Wednesday even though the movie clearly implied Thursday!
Burn the witch! Purity now!
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 11:20 AM (pz8nD)
Speaking of purity, has anyone watched the Fox News " Legends and Lies"? I know they were produced by Bill O'Reilly, and that really doesn't give me a good feeling they are historically accurate.(which in this case, unlike The Patriot, these episodes are being touted as the "truthful" descriptiions of the subjects.
I watched a five minute blip of them last night, and was treated to a man graphically being hung, another man being beaten or whipped, a woman being dragged screaming either to her death or to watch a family member being killed, and a very ugly George Washington peering through a scope at the British on the distant hill.
Did not seem like the cerebral type of documentary I would want to watch, but more like some R rated violent movie trying to scare the hell out of people.
In the words of the blowhard producer, "What say you?"
Burn the witch! Purity now!
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 11:20 AM (pz8nD)
Speaking of purity, has anyone watched the Fox News " Legends and Lies"? I know they were produced by Bill O'Reilly, and that really doesn't give me a good feeling they are historically accurate.(which in this case, unlike The Patriot, these episodes are being touted as the "truthful" descriptiions of the subjects.
I watched a five minute blip of them last night, and was treated to a man graphically being hung, another man being beaten or whipped, a woman being dragged screaming either to her death or to watch a family member being killed, and a very ugly George Washington peering through a scope at the British on the distant hill.
Did not seem like the cerebral type of documentary I would want to watch, but more like some R rated violent movie trying to scare the hell out of people.
In the words of the blowhard producer, "What say you?"
Posted by: Jen the original at July 04, 2016 11:27 AM (HbTvc)
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"We're gonna need a bigger pinata."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:27 AM (0SMdI)
Posted by: Zombie Rosemary Kennedy at July 04, 2016 11:30 AM (ptqRm)
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In the words of the blowhard producer, "What say you?"
It was very well done.... I'd recommend it...
In the words of the blowhard producer, "What say you?"
It was very well done.... I'd recommend it...
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:30 AM (O2RFr)
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File under Missing the point
At my towns parade. After the obligatory high school marching band comes the first of many politicians
First one: the town Tax Collector
At my towns parade. After the obligatory high school marching band comes the first of many politicians
First one: the town Tax Collector
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 04, 2016 11:31 AM (wmxwV)
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It's no fun being a Kennedy piñata....trust me on this one.
Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 04, 2016 11:31 AM (MNzex)
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*flings a string of corncobs into the tree in front of Vic's house*
*dashes off laughing into the swamp*
*dashes off laughing into the swamp*
Posted by: Francis Marion at July 04, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:31 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 04, 2016 11:32 AM (wmxwV)
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The problem with historically inaccurate movies and TV shows is that most people have their entire worldview shaped by what they see on the screen. They don't think about anything, or consider that they might have a flawed understanding of historical (or even current) events. And they act on those misconceptions.
Just look at the way most people view firearms. Their entire knowledge of the subject comes from Hollywood action films. They sincerely believe that only trained professionals should have firearms because you can just pick up any weapon, hold the trigger down while gesticulating wildly, and dozens if not hundreds of people will all drop dead around you. TV and movies have done more to destroy the truth than any previous form of communication.
Just look at the way most people view firearms. Their entire knowledge of the subject comes from Hollywood action films. They sincerely believe that only trained professionals should have firearms because you can just pick up any weapon, hold the trigger down while gesticulating wildly, and dozens if not hundreds of people will all drop dead around you. TV and movies have done more to destroy the truth than any previous form of communication.
Posted by: rfichoke at July 04, 2016 11:34 AM (vLCft)
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Drudge headline today is pretty depressing..... Hill and Barry best of friends ... Oh and Hillary! wants to keep Lynch as Attorney General....
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:34 AM (O2RFr)
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at the behest of whichever Kennedy brat struck the decisive blow.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Michael Skakel at July 04, 2016 11:35 AM (9mTYi)
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Troubled Waters. Wasn't he a Blues guy?
Posted by: Zipper Gwinnett at July 04, 2016 11:35 AM (Kr74t)
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Oh and Hillary! wants to keep Lynch as Attorney General....
Posted by: donna
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What a surprise.
Posted by: donna
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What a surprise.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 11:35 AM (9mTYi)
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"Oh and Hillary! wants to keep Lynch as Attorney General...."
As hints to Attorney Generals go, that's pretty subtle
As hints to Attorney Generals go, that's pretty subtle
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2016 11:36 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Han Yolo at July 04, 2016 11:36 AM (MNzex)
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A traditional Wild West shooting arcade was banned from Phoenix's Independence Day celebrations because of recent mass shootings in the US.
Prescott Pete's Highfalutin Shooting Gallery, run by Pete and Valerie Fowler, was deemed inappropriate by organizers of Fabulous Phoenix 4th.
Gregg Bach, a spokesman for City of Phoenix Parks and Recreation Department said it was a straightforward decision for the organizers. 'The planning committee was not comfortable with an exhibit/game that presented guns in a fun or glorified way,' he said.
https://tinyurl.com/h5ayqrt
A traditional Wild West shooting arcade was banned from Phoenix's Independence Day celebrations because of recent mass shootings in the US.
Prescott Pete's Highfalutin Shooting Gallery, run by Pete and Valerie Fowler, was deemed inappropriate by organizers of Fabulous Phoenix 4th.
Gregg Bach, a spokesman for City of Phoenix Parks and Recreation Department said it was a straightforward decision for the organizers. 'The planning committee was not comfortable with an exhibit/game that presented guns in a fun or glorified way,' he said.
https://tinyurl.com/h5ayqrt
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 11:36 AM (kdS6q)
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Guess we know what the meeting in the private plane was all about
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:36 AM (Yo9Lf)
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Deety, who be ya?
I be me.
I be extant BEFORE the FIRST iteration of the ONT.
That's who *I* be.
Who the fuck are you?
And when was the last time you put some money to Ace, via his PayPal account?
(Apparently he is now a blind ewok, who cannot read or write or podcast.)
I be me.
I be extant BEFORE the FIRST iteration of the ONT.
That's who *I* be.
Who the fuck are you?
And when was the last time you put some money to Ace, via his PayPal account?
(Apparently he is now a blind ewok, who cannot read or write or podcast.)
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 11:37 AM (xPWMR)
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It's too funny when commenters think the same thing
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 11:37 AM (Yo9Lf)
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Oh, I think we got the overall message and theme of the movie: Mel Gibson hates the British.
People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but please don't
forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters, doing impossibly
cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Cartoon is a pretty good way of describing it. Love the movie, but it only follows the broad outlines of history. Very little acknowledgement that "Taverton's" (Tarleton's) dragoons were Americans, not British, for example, and the actual reasons given for going to war in the first place are the pop culture/elementary-school version. Portrayal of the backcountry people and their relationship with the seaboard folks is, um, simplistic, and the issue of slavery is completely sidestepped.
BTW, the conversation between Cornwallis and the protagonist, in which Cornwallis protests the shooting of officers and is countered with comments about burning homes and killing families, is based on a real conversation between Francis Marion and an English colonel, but the Englishman protested the sniping of sentries, not officers, and of course the British were not killing women and children, just burning homes and crops (which was hard enough on the families involved). Interesting example of what the British actually considered a violation of the rules of war versus what modern Americans think the British objected to. Also, their standard for war crimes against civilians was actually higher than ours, which is why Gibson has to exaggerate to get the emotional effect on modern audiences....
People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but please don't
forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters, doing impossibly
cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Cartoon is a pretty good way of describing it. Love the movie, but it only follows the broad outlines of history. Very little acknowledgement that "Taverton's" (Tarleton's) dragoons were Americans, not British, for example, and the actual reasons given for going to war in the first place are the pop culture/elementary-school version. Portrayal of the backcountry people and their relationship with the seaboard folks is, um, simplistic, and the issue of slavery is completely sidestepped.
BTW, the conversation between Cornwallis and the protagonist, in which Cornwallis protests the shooting of officers and is countered with comments about burning homes and killing families, is based on a real conversation between Francis Marion and an English colonel, but the Englishman protested the sniping of sentries, not officers, and of course the British were not killing women and children, just burning homes and crops (which was hard enough on the families involved). Interesting example of what the British actually considered a violation of the rules of war versus what modern Americans think the British objected to. Also, their standard for war crimes against civilians was actually higher than ours, which is why Gibson has to exaggerate to get the emotional effect on modern audiences....
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 11:38 AM (bZ7mE)
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The problem with historically inaccurate movies and TV shows is that most people have their entire worldview shaped by what they see on the screen. They don't think about anything, or consider that they might have a flawed understanding of historical (or even current) events. And they act on those misconceptions.
Just look at the way most people view firearms. Their entire knowledge of the subject comes from Hollywood action films. They sincerely believe that only trained professionals should have firearms because you can just pick up any weapon, hold the trigger down while gesticulating wildly, and dozens if not hundreds of people will all drop dead around you. TV and movies have done more to destroy the truth than any previous form of communication.
Posted by: rfichoke at July 04, 2016 11:34 AM (vLCft)
Hollowwood tells me Dalton Trumbo and Edward R. Murrow are great Americans, while Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover were conniving, evil men with no redeeming qualities.
So it must be true.
Just look at the way most people view firearms. Their entire knowledge of the subject comes from Hollywood action films. They sincerely believe that only trained professionals should have firearms because you can just pick up any weapon, hold the trigger down while gesticulating wildly, and dozens if not hundreds of people will all drop dead around you. TV and movies have done more to destroy the truth than any previous form of communication.
Posted by: rfichoke at July 04, 2016 11:34 AM (vLCft)
Hollowwood tells me Dalton Trumbo and Edward R. Murrow are great Americans, while Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover were conniving, evil men with no redeeming qualities.
So it must be true.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:40 AM (Dj0WE)
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'The planning committee was not comfortable with an exhibit/game that presented guns in a fun or glorified way,' he said.
Won't be long before:
"The planning committee was not comfortable with festivities that presented the USA in a fun or glorified way"
'The planning committee was not comfortable with an exhibit/game that presented guns in a fun or glorified way,' he said.
Won't be long before:
"The planning committee was not comfortable with festivities that presented the USA in a fun or glorified way"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 11:42 AM (IqV8l)
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Looking for an airing of 1776 today. Whatever the actors' politics, that musical is really a good one. William Daniels definitive as John Adams. Wonderful fun.
Youngest kid discovered Milo Y this summer so we have had interesting discussions about politics. She ordered a Gadsen flag to hang up in her dorm room and I hope that she doesn't get ticketed for violating house rules or something.
Youngest kid discovered Milo Y this summer so we have had interesting discussions about politics. She ordered a Gadsen flag to hang up in her dorm room and I hope that she doesn't get ticketed for violating house rules or something.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 04, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
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Happy 4th of July, all. On this day, 240 years ago, our founding fathers wrote something called the Declaration of Independence. Sort of a reverse Brexit telling King George and his fellow Brits to pack up their sh!t and GTFO. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya. Pip pip, cheerio and all that bloody rot.
Brave men fought tyranny and won the battle. How disappointed they must be to look down and see what is going on now.
Brave men fought tyranny and won the battle. How disappointed they must be to look down and see what is going on now.
Posted by: Hank at July 04, 2016 11:45 AM (bmbnN)
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Troubled Waters. Wasn't he a Blues guy?
Posted by: Zipper Gwinnett at July 04, 2016 11:35 AM (Kr74t)
No, you're thinking of Brat Hull.
Posted by: Zipper Gwinnett at July 04, 2016 11:35 AM (Kr74t)
No, you're thinking of Brat Hull.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (Dj0WE)
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Happy Independence Day!
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (MQEz6)
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I have a North American history/Geography book printed in 1792, interesting what was the thinking back then....
Posted by: Colin
Phlogiston was going to destroy the world unless buffalo farts were brought under control thus justifying western expansion by the new nation?
Posted by: Colin
Phlogiston was going to destroy the world unless buffalo farts were brought under control thus justifying western expansion by the new nation?
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (A/+my)
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She ordered a Gadsen flag to hang up in her dorm room and I hope that she doesn't get ticketed for violating house rules or something.
I don't know. If writing on a side walk" Make America Great again" is a hate crime what would that flag be?
I don't know. If writing on a side walk" Make America Great again" is a hate crime what would that flag be?
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (O2RFr)
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I really like the fact that the Marine band has the women wearing skirts. They look fantastic with the long skirt and the old-fashioned military jacket! It's a great look.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 11:47 AM (0OG8D)
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"Kick" Kennedy looks like a coke head.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 04, 2016 11:47 AM (R/vh6)
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So it must be true.
Posted by: BurtTC
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A Prog acquaintance uses the thoroughly discredited film "Fair Game" as her sole reference to George Bush as evil.
Posted by: BurtTC
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A Prog acquaintance uses the thoroughly discredited film "Fair Game" as her sole reference to George Bush as evil.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 11:48 AM (9mTYi)
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. They look fantastic with the long skirt and the old-fashioned military jacket! It's a great look.
It'll look simply fabulous on all the new Trannys....
It'll look simply fabulous on all the new Trannys....
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:48 AM (O2RFr)
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Went to our small neighborhood parade. Bunch of kids riding bikes, scooters, etc. walking around the block with a fire truck tailing. Took about 10mins. They had snow cones and face painting afterwards. My son then got stung by a wasp....and so did two others we know of, on the playscape by our neighborhood pool. We found out he's not allergic luckily. The worse part for him was he got stung on the ass off all places. The righteous indignation of a 9 year old. 
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 04, 2016 11:49 AM (xVgrA)
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Happy ...
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (MQEz6)
Who are you, and what have you done with the REAL eman?
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (MQEz6)
Who are you, and what have you done with the REAL eman?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:50 AM (Dj0WE)
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Have a great day everyone, remember those who gave their last full measure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2016 11:50 AM (0SMdI)
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I don't know. If writing on a side walk" Make America Great again" is a hate crime what would that flag be? Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 11:46 AM (O2RFr)
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A warning. Actually, she has some pretty funny stories about all the 'closeted' republicans and her mouthing off about ignorance of Constitutional issues with the group.
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A warning. Actually, she has some pretty funny stories about all the 'closeted' republicans and her mouthing off about ignorance of Constitutional issues with the group.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 04, 2016 11:50 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Oberlin College Snowflake at July 04, 2016 11:55 AM (Tyii7)
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I really like the fact that the Marine band has the women wearing skirts. They look fantastic with the long skirt and the old-fashioned military jacket! It's a great look.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 11:47 AM (0OG8D)
I say this with the utmost respect... as an Army guy, I know many Jarheads, and the guys are a mixed bag of insanity, of one sort or another. The several female Jarheads (can we call them that?) I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 11:47 AM (0OG8D)
I say this with the utmost respect... as an Army guy, I know many Jarheads, and the guys are a mixed bag of insanity, of one sort or another. The several female Jarheads (can we call them that?) I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:55 AM (Dj0WE)
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Adams and Jefferson were flaccid, effeminate lawyers compared to Alex Hamilton, who would have pimped slapped both of them to tears if given the chance.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 11:55 AM (ej1L0)
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If writing on a side walk" Make America Great again" is a hate crime
Huh. Probably considered a subversive act these days, isn't it?
Huh. Probably considered a subversive act these days, isn't it?
Posted by: t-bird at July 04, 2016 11:56 AM (Z58Xa)
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In fairness to Gibson, a lot of recent official histories about the Revolution in the southern Colonies are bullshit too.
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=359842
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=359842
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 11:56 AM (x4YoJ)
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>> I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:57 AM (VNYbF)
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>>Adams and Jefferson were flaccid, effeminate lawyers compared to Alex Hamilton, who would have pimped slapped both of them to tears if given the chance.
To be fair, Hamilton had balls.
To be fair, Hamilton had balls.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:58 AM (VNYbF)
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Happy Independence horde! Be safe and don't be too boozed up when igniting your fireworks.
Doing an early BBQ before heading off to man the first aid station for a local small town's parade and fireworks display this afternoon and evening.
Doing an early BBQ before heading off to man the first aid station for a local small town's parade and fireworks display this afternoon and evening.
Posted by: Octiparan at July 04, 2016 11:59 AM (D1TF/)
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Adams and Jefferson were flaccid, effeminate lawyers compared to Alex Hamilton, who would have pimped slapped both of them to tears if given the chance.
Not a good shot, though.
Not a good shot, though.
Posted by: aaron burr at July 04, 2016 11:59 AM (x4YoJ)
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>>So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat.
"American royalty"
Guess we can happy that they haven't killed or raped anyone...yet
"American royalty"
Guess we can happy that they haven't killed or raped anyone...yet
Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2016 12:00 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:00 PM (9mTYi)
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I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
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If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:57 AM (VNYbF)
Are we talking about the lady Sailors or the dudes?
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If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:57 AM (VNYbF)
Are we talking about the lady Sailors or the dudes?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:01 PM (Dj0WE)
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I figured the Kennedy compound would celebrate the fourth with pills and a heaping pile of blow.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2016 12:02 PM (89T5c)
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I just found a bicentennial quarter on the street, all limed and oxidized. I almost swept it up with all the debris in the gutter around the sewer grate. All that you can make out on the one side is the stuff around the rim, "Liberty" "In God We Trust" and 1776 - 1976, but the other side, with the drummer and colonial stars and eternal flame, is pretty clear. Since I spent awhile this morning despairing and getting allergic over the Declaration and then the story of Ft. McHenry and The Star-Spangled Banner it gave me a bit of the woobies. Do I believe in signs? I dunno. Does anyone else?
I washed it with some dish soap, because it is going in my memento shadow box, for sure. Wondering how I agressive I can get cleaning it up.
I washed it with some dish soap, because it is going in my memento shadow box, for sure. Wondering how I agressive I can get cleaning it up.
Posted by: Gem at July 04, 2016 12:02 PM (uaHyk)
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#183: I'm trying not to think about that.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 12:02 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (VNYbF)
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So, Hobby Lobby ran this full page in papers across the country today:
http://tinyurl.com/zsmohu8
It is all kinds of awesome for the 4th. Liberal heads can be heard exploding across the fruited plains.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)
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Oh wow. Wow. God bless Hobby Lobby, and the family that won't back down.
So, Hobby Lobby ran this full page in papers across the country today:
http://tinyurl.com/zsmohu8
It is all kinds of awesome for the 4th. Liberal heads can be heard exploding across the fruited plains.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 04, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)
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Oh wow. Wow. God bless Hobby Lobby, and the family that won't back down.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (dFi94)
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195 Happy Independence horde! Be safe and don't be too boozed up when igniting your fireworks.
Fireworks? They haven't been allowed in My neck of the woods for years.... Not even sparklers....
Fireworks? They haven't been allowed in My neck of the woods for years.... Not even sparklers....
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (O2RFr)
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People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but
please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters,
doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
As was every other popular treatment in writing and plays and radio and theater.
There is a difference between straight propaganda like Birth of a Nation and Battleship Potempkin, and a popularization to get the feel and timeline right to discuss a period that is neither taught nor well known.
Of course a straight timeline is boring, because real life includes a lot of standing around waiting and cooking and cleaning your kit, and if you intend to be a perfectionist and only follow one life and one person's story arc, a lot happens offstage and doesn't get to your main character.
Calling it a cartoon is misleading and intentionally, well, doing what you are accusing Mel Gibson of doing. Making a caricature of something to point out its flaws.
please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters,
doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
As was every other popular treatment in writing and plays and radio and theater.
There is a difference between straight propaganda like Birth of a Nation and Battleship Potempkin, and a popularization to get the feel and timeline right to discuss a period that is neither taught nor well known.
Of course a straight timeline is boring, because real life includes a lot of standing around waiting and cooking and cleaning your kit, and if you intend to be a perfectionist and only follow one life and one person's story arc, a lot happens offstage and doesn't get to your main character.
Calling it a cartoon is misleading and intentionally, well, doing what you are accusing Mel Gibson of doing. Making a caricature of something to point out its flaws.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (ry34m)
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Ditto on the feminine Navy gals - married to one.
Posted by: Octiparan at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (D1TF/)
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199 I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
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If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:57 AM (VNYbF)
Are we talking about the lady Sailors or the dudes?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:01 PM (Dj0WE)
(#$@(&&%($#^^%^#) B New Navy...
I used to be able to argue against this type of joke...
I can't anymore.....
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If you want 'feminine' you go for the Navy.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:57 AM (VNYbF)
Are we talking about the lady Sailors or the dudes?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:01 PM (Dj0WE)
(#$@(&&%($#^^%^#) B New Navy...
I used to be able to argue against this type of joke...
I can't anymore.....
Posted by: Don Q. disgusted Destroyer Sailor at July 04, 2016 12:04 PM (qf6WZ)
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Flying the flag this weekend. Did home fire works last night with neighbors and going to big show tonight. This is all mostly for my kids. None of this feels right anymore. Most of this country isn't interested in freedom or independence anymore.
Posted by: Ripley at July 04, 2016 12:04 PM (1BQGO)
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#189: I can agree with that; jarheadettes are indeed lovely ladies.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 12:04 PM (0OG8D)
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To be fair, Hamilton had balls.
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:58 AM (VNYbF)
He had three. One of which I put in his heart. HA!
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 11:58 AM (VNYbF)
He had three. One of which I put in his heart. HA!
Posted by: Zombie Arron Burr at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (hgwL9)
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Went looking for the "Who Goes Nazi" post that Maet posted several years ago... http://ace.mu.nu/archives/304243.php Then I found that Harpers had reprinted in in their blog, and basically insinuated that because Trump wanted to bloc Islamics from coming to the US until we had a proper way to screen them.
Typical left wing apparatchiks. As though being anti Islamicist is like being anti-Semetic. One group was peacefully minding their own business, the other ones to impose Islamofacism around the world. Totally the same!
Typical left wing apparatchiks. As though being anti Islamicist is like being anti-Semetic. One group was peacefully minding their own business, the other ones to impose Islamofacism around the world. Totally the same!
Posted by: Brendan at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (gkvx9)
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The several female Jarheads (can we call them that?) I have met, for reasons I cannot fully explain are almost universally attractive, even when they are not the most feminine of ladies.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I'm inclined to agree. Most of the women naval officers also. I spent a lot of time around both at the AG School. There may have been a 'forbidden fruit' aspect that influenced my perspective.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I'm inclined to agree. Most of the women naval officers also. I spent a lot of time around both at the AG School. There may have been a 'forbidden fruit' aspect that influenced my perspective.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: garrett at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (VNYbF)
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People are free to enjoy that sort of thing, but
please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters,
doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
As was every other popular treatment in writing and plays and radio and theater.
There is a difference between straight propaganda like Birth of a Nation and Battleship Potempkin, and a popularization to get the feel and timeline right to discuss a period that is neither taught nor well known.
Of course a straight timeline is boring, because real life includes a lot of standing around waiting and cooking and cleaning your kit, and if you intend to be a perfectionist and only follow one life and one person's story arc, a lot happens offstage and doesn't get to your main character.
Calling it a cartoon is misleading and intentionally, well, doing what you are accusing Mel Gibson of doing. Making a caricature of something to point out its flaws.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (ry34m)
Sorry, you're just wrong. You're free to like the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's axe-grinding, in period clothing.
please don't forget: it's a cartoon. It has cartoon characters,
doing impossibly cartoonish things, in a cartoon world.
Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 11:24 AM (Dj0WE)
As was every other popular treatment in writing and plays and radio and theater.
There is a difference between straight propaganda like Birth of a Nation and Battleship Potempkin, and a popularization to get the feel and timeline right to discuss a period that is neither taught nor well known.
Of course a straight timeline is boring, because real life includes a lot of standing around waiting and cooking and cleaning your kit, and if you intend to be a perfectionist and only follow one life and one person's story arc, a lot happens offstage and doesn't get to your main character.
Calling it a cartoon is misleading and intentionally, well, doing what you are accusing Mel Gibson of doing. Making a caricature of something to point out its flaws.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:03 PM (ry34m)
Sorry, you're just wrong. You're free to like the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (Dj0WE)
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The French, including the Canadians, had always lived under absolutism, so they simply didn't have the cultural background of self rule, limited monarchy, and rebellion against overly-assertive kings that would have allowed them to sympathize with the rebellion. They didn't much like the British either, of course, so when the Americans invaded in 1775-6 (Quebec Expedition) they were friendly enough, but they weren't motivated to fight for either side, I believe, and largely stood by idly.
They stayed loyal because they didn't want to become a linguistic and religious minority trusting the Americans they had just spent fighting for 150 years on and off.
The British did not make alot of political changes after the 1763 "Conquest" because they didn't want a future rebellion there and unlike Catholic Ireland were too far away to cause any troubles in G.B. (the Quebec Act that was one of things that upset you Protestant Americans BTW as much as the Stamp Act). There were also positive changes for the average man like being able to sue anyone, including nobles, in civil courts. So they preferred the devil they knew.
They stayed loyal because they didn't want to become a linguistic and religious minority trusting the Americans they had just spent fighting for 150 years on and off.
The British did not make alot of political changes after the 1763 "Conquest" because they didn't want a future rebellion there and unlike Catholic Ireland were too far away to cause any troubles in G.B. (the Quebec Act that was one of things that upset you Protestant Americans BTW as much as the Stamp Act). There were also positive changes for the average man like being able to sue anyone, including nobles, in civil courts. So they preferred the devil they knew.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (A/+my)
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Sorry, you're just wrong. You're free to like the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM
Since none of Us were there except Vic let's ask Him what really happened...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM
Since none of Us were there except Vic let's ask Him what really happened...
Posted by: donna at July 04, 2016 12:07 PM (O2RFr)
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Just watched a compilation vid of Brexit sore losers. Mostly young people spouting nonsense and accusations of racism. They don't even know what they're talking about in the slightest.
I thought the video would be gratifying because I'm such a mean bastard, but it wasn't.
All I saw was young people GIVING AWAY THEIR FREEDOM for a idiotic sense of 'progress,' which means whatever stupid evil idea the Left proposes/pushes at the moment.
Just watched a compilation vid of Brexit sore losers. Mostly young people spouting nonsense and accusations of racism. They don't even know what they're talking about in the slightest.
I thought the video would be gratifying because I'm such a mean bastard, but it wasn't.
All I saw was young people GIVING AWAY THEIR FREEDOM for a idiotic sense of 'progress,' which means whatever stupid evil idea the Left proposes/pushes at the moment.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:08 PM (uBIoa)
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Are we talking about the lady Sailors or the dudes?
Shore Patrol cabbies.
Shore Patrol cabbies.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (A/+my)
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"To be fair, Hamilton had balls."
He and Ben Franklin are my favorite founders, although there's lots of great contenders.
He and Ben Franklin are my favorite founders, although there's lots of great contenders.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (bQxkN)
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I'm inclined to agree. Most of the women naval officers also. I spent a lot of time around both at the AG School. There may have been a 'forbidden fruit' aspect that influenced my perspective.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Yep.... isn't it amazing when suddenly all the Women look better when they are FORCED to be in good shape???
Who woulda thunk it...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Yep.... isn't it amazing when suddenly all the Women look better when they are FORCED to be in good shape???
Who woulda thunk it...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (qf6WZ)
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Not a good shot, though.
Posted by: aaron burr at July 04, 2016 11:59 AM (x4YoJ)
Yup....he was a cannon cocker....mowed down lots of hessians at Trenton I believe.
He should have chosen an 18 pounder over pistols that day.
Posted by: aaron burr at July 04, 2016 11:59 AM (x4YoJ)
Yup....he was a cannon cocker....mowed down lots of hessians at Trenton I believe.
He should have chosen an 18 pounder over pistols that day.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (ej1L0)
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205. Same here really but it's never enforced unless you do something really stupid like launching a M80 at the fires station. Most nights around my neighborhood this time of year sounds like the 3rd day at Gettysburg.
Posted by: Octiparan at July 04, 2016 12:10 PM (D1TF/)
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Sorry, you're just wrong. You're free to like
the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's
axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (Dj0WE)
Calling it "Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate." is what?
Axe, grindstone, you want me to use one on the other for your purpose. Thank you, no.
the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's
axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (Dj0WE)
Calling it "Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate." is what?
Axe, grindstone, you want me to use one on the other for your purpose. Thank you, no.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:10 PM (ry34m)
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In fairness to Gibson, a lot of recent official histories about the Revolution in the southern Colonies are bullshit too.
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=359842
The New England Bias is old and well known enough to have garnered its own name among historians, at least those of the southern variety.
King's Mountain is pretty well known among the reenactor/muzzleloading community, BTW. Something of a legend, actually. I'm kind of surprised that the general population isn't more aware of it.
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=359842
The New England Bias is old and well known enough to have garnered its own name among historians, at least those of the southern variety.
King's Mountain is pretty well known among the reenactor/muzzleloading community, BTW. Something of a legend, actually. I'm kind of surprised that the general population isn't more aware of it.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:10 PM (bZ7mE)
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There were also positive changes for the average man like being able to sue anyone, including nobles, in civil courts.
Agreed that was key. The Magna Carta was a bill of rights... for those nobles, but the commoners still had to eat sh!t until those late-eighteenth, early-nineteenth century reforms.
Agreed that was key. The Magna Carta was a bill of rights... for those nobles, but the commoners still had to eat sh!t until those late-eighteenth, early-nineteenth century reforms.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:11 PM (x4YoJ)
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So many people today giving away their freedom.
Just giving it away. Do we still have our independence today? Or is the Declaration of Independence a relic today?
Also, I'm very very sick of college kids. I hate them all. They are today's Hitler Youth -- and I think most of them realize it. I used to think these young college students were just ignorant and out there having fun. No, they're Shits flexing their puny muscles to stick their thumb in the grown-ups eyes.
So many people today giving away their freedom.
Just giving it away. Do we still have our independence today? Or is the Declaration of Independence a relic today?
Also, I'm very very sick of college kids. I hate them all. They are today's Hitler Youth -- and I think most of them realize it. I used to think these young college students were just ignorant and out there having fun. No, they're Shits flexing their puny muscles to stick their thumb in the grown-ups eyes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:12 PM (uBIoa)
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Historically The Patriot (2000) is pretty bad.
Yeah, I don't think Cornwallis spoke fluent Aramaic all that often.
Yeah, I don't think Cornwallis spoke fluent Aramaic all that often.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:13 PM (A/+my)
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"So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat."
How young did they have to go before they found someone sober enough to hit it? I can't find it in my heart to care what the spawn of a rum running psychopath does for fun.
How young did they have to go before they found someone sober enough to hit it? I can't find it in my heart to care what the spawn of a rum running psychopath does for fun.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 04, 2016 12:13 PM (kXoT0)
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Just watched a compilation vid of Brexit sore losers. Mostly young people spouting nonsense and accusations of racism.
How about the ones holding signs which say :
"I'm not British I'm European"
Just watched a compilation vid of Brexit sore losers. Mostly young people spouting nonsense and accusations of racism.
How about the ones holding signs which say :
"I'm not British I'm European"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:14 PM (IqV8l)
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In the early days of the WWII, Aaron Copeland composed this to honor the everyday man who would win that war.
To the everyday heroes among us that made it possible to still celebrate the 4th of July.
The President's Own Marine Band
http://tinyurl.com/zkm2xc9
To the everyday heroes among us that made it possible to still celebrate the 4th of July.
The President's Own Marine Band
http://tinyurl.com/zkm2xc9
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:15 PM (Cz05v)
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226 There were also positive changes for the average man like being able to sue anyone, including nobles, in civil courts.
Agreed that was key. The Magna Carta was a bill of rights... for those nobles, but the commoners still had to eat sh!t until those late-eighteenth, early-nineteenth century reforms.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:11 PM (x4YoJ)
And it was the result of post-surrender negotiations with the British that the "loser pays" rule for litigation was pretty much discarded.
And they had no idea of the corrupting effect this would eventually have on our legal system.
Agreed that was key. The Magna Carta was a bill of rights... for those nobles, but the commoners still had to eat sh!t until those late-eighteenth, early-nineteenth century reforms.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:11 PM (x4YoJ)
And it was the result of post-surrender negotiations with the British that the "loser pays" rule for litigation was pretty much discarded.
And they had no idea of the corrupting effect this would eventually have on our legal system.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:16 PM (e8zmj)
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Sorry, you're just wrong. You're free to like
the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's
axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (Dj0WE)
Calling it "Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate." is what?
Axe, grindstone, you want me to use one on the other for your purpose. Thank you, no.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:10 PM (ry34m)
You can react to the ONE part that was obviously meant as a joke, or you can acknowledge the point: the movie is historically inaccurate.
Not "taking some liberties with the action," intentionally incendiary anti-British fiction.
Which, again, you are free to enjoy, but please don't pretend it's history, when it isn't.
As for Bugs Bunny, if you recall, his nephew came home after listening to Bugs' version of history, with a Dunce Cap on his head. They had the integrity to admit they were playing fast and loose with the truth, unlike Mel.
the movie all you want, but it's not history. It's one guy's
axe-grinding, in period clothing.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:06 PM (Dj0WE)
Calling it "Sort of like Bugs Bunny versions of history... only less historically accurate." is what?
Axe, grindstone, you want me to use one on the other for your purpose. Thank you, no.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:10 PM (ry34m)
You can react to the ONE part that was obviously meant as a joke, or you can acknowledge the point: the movie is historically inaccurate.
Not "taking some liberties with the action," intentionally incendiary anti-British fiction.
Which, again, you are free to enjoy, but please don't pretend it's history, when it isn't.
As for Bugs Bunny, if you recall, his nephew came home after listening to Bugs' version of history, with a Dunce Cap on his head. They had the integrity to admit they were playing fast and loose with the truth, unlike Mel.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:18 PM (Dj0WE)
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How about the ones holding signs which say :
"I'm not British I'm European"
The vid I saw included a "Hug A European" at one of their many post-Brexit vigils. Pathetic.
It's all so stupid.
If you or I went out there with a sign "Blow A European" I have no doubt we'd be getting bj's.
How about the ones holding signs which say :
"I'm not British I'm European"
The vid I saw included a "Hug A European" at one of their many post-Brexit vigils. Pathetic.
It's all so stupid.
If you or I went out there with a sign "Blow A European" I have no doubt we'd be getting bj's.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:18 PM (uBIoa)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2016 12:18 PM (ry34m)
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King's Mountain is pretty well known among the ...
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Battle of Cowpens
Battle of Ninety-Six
Stuff I knew as a kid, unheard of by the folk in the North. A friend who moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South played any part in the Revolution.
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Battle of Cowpens
Battle of Ninety-Six
Stuff I knew as a kid, unheard of by the folk in the North. A friend who moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South played any part in the Revolution.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:19 PM (9mTYi)
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How about the ones holding signs which say :
"I'm not British I'm European"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:14 PM (IqV8l)
I am reminded of the idiots who walk around with "America is not Great" written on their t-shirts. To each group my response is the same:
"And yet, you continue to live here."
"I'm not British I'm European"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 12:14 PM (IqV8l)
I am reminded of the idiots who walk around with "America is not Great" written on their t-shirts. To each group my response is the same:
"And yet, you continue to live here."
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:19 PM (e8zmj)
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For me, one of the most enduring and precious patriotic moments was the performance of the Battle Hymn of the Republic at the funeral of President Ronald Reagan. Tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaLJb9rtebM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaLJb9rtebM
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:20 PM (dFi94)
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Stuff I knew as a kid, unheard of by the folk in the
North. A friend who moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea
that the South played any part in the Revolution.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Then he's an idiot. I grew up in Ohio, and there was always plenty of Revolutionary War history about the South.
North. A friend who moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea
that the South played any part in the Revolution.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Then he's an idiot. I grew up in Ohio, and there was always plenty of Revolutionary War history about the South.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:21 PM (Cz05v)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:22 PM (Cz05v)
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I'm inclined to agree. Most of the women naval officers also. I spent a lot of time around both at the AG School. There may have been a 'forbidden fruit' aspect that influenced my perspective.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Yep.... isn't it amazing when suddenly all the Women look better when they are FORCED to be in good shape???
Who woulda thunk it...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (qf6WZ)
Oh, you're gonna get it for that.
As for the "forbidden fruit" aspect, I believe that is part of the reason. I kinda have a thing for female cops too.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)
Yep.... isn't it amazing when suddenly all the Women look better when they are FORCED to be in good shape???
Who woulda thunk it...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 04, 2016 12:09 PM (qf6WZ)
Oh, you're gonna get it for that.
As for the "forbidden fruit" aspect, I believe that is part of the reason. I kinda have a thing for female cops too.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:23 PM (Dj0WE)
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174 Looking for an airing of 1776 today. Whatever the actors' politics, that musical is really a good one. William Daniels definitive as John Adams. Wonderful fun.
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mustbequantum, we watched it last night on
putlocker.is. Love, love, love that movie.
Our friends were over and the wife is a descendant of Robert E. Lee, so distantly related to Richard Henry Lee as well. Naturally, her favorite part of the movie is his song.
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mustbequantum, we watched it last night on
putlocker.is. Love, love, love that movie.
Our friends were over and the wife is a descendant of Robert E. Lee, so distantly related to Richard Henry Lee as well. Naturally, her favorite part of the movie is his song.
Posted by: bluebell at July 04, 2016 12:23 PM (805dc)
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For some reason, I have been humming 'Onward Christian Soldiers' to myself a lot the past few years.
Anyway, I remember being a kid and feeling baaaaad and tough singing 'glory, glory, hallelujah, teacher hit me with a rulah, then I hit her in the knees with a -------'
I seem to remember the verses being flexible, but darned if I can remember them.
Anyway, I remember being a kid and feeling baaaaad and tough singing 'glory, glory, hallelujah, teacher hit me with a rulah, then I hit her in the knees with a -------'
I seem to remember the verses being flexible, but darned if I can remember them.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (MIKMs)
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And he always used the "Henry" because in school the other kids always called him Dick Lee!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (A/+my)
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If I remember correctly, Senator (Reverend) John Danforth was one of the officiants at President Reagan's funeral. Church and State. Tsk Tsk.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (dFi94)
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244 And he always used the "Henry" because in school the other kids always called him Dick Lee!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (A/+my)
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Serious-Lee.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (A/+my)
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Serious-Lee.
Posted by: bluebell at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (805dc)
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Stuff I knew as a kid, unheard of by the folk in the North. A friend who
moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South
played any part in the Revolution.
Interesting. I've always been very, very interested in the the Southern and Western theaters. Most general histories I've read at mention them, and I've always figured that the reason that the treatment often seems inadequate was my own preoccupation with those particular areas. Maybe it isn't me...
moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South
played any part in the Revolution.
Interesting. I've always been very, very interested in the the Southern and Western theaters. Most general histories I've read at mention them, and I've always figured that the reason that the treatment often seems inadequate was my own preoccupation with those particular areas. Maybe it isn't me...
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (bZ7mE)
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I got my formal New-World history education in Texas, which had a different slate of revolutions: the Mexican Revolution, the Texan Revolution, and the Late Unpleasantness. So we didn't get a lot of Southern Revolution history there, either.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (x4YoJ)
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I am reminded of the idiots who walk around with "America is not Great" written on their t-shirts. To each group my response is the same:
"And yet, you continue to live here."
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:19 PM (e8zmj)
Saw one here with a 'Make America Mexico Again' on his shirt...
I asked... 'Got a passport?... feel free to use it...'
"And yet, you continue to live here."
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:19 PM (e8zmj)
Saw one here with a 'Make America Mexico Again' on his shirt...
I asked... 'Got a passport?... feel free to use it...'
Posted by: Don Q. at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (qf6WZ)
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40 years ago today in the greatest special forces raid since WW2 Israelis rescued 102 hostages at Entebbe, Uganda.
40 years ago today in the greatest special forces raid since WW2 Israelis rescued 102 hostages at Entebbe, Uganda.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
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... as the Texans say, it's a different country
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (x4YoJ)
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The President's Own Marine Band
http://tinyurl.com/zkm2xc9
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:15 PM (Cz05v)
Yeah, Aaron Copeland...
I used to go up to the top of Campbell Drive in Tucson, AZ and blast this and watch the fireworks down below!
You know that your "secret" is revealed when you see an Ice-Cream truck...
Good on you Ice Cream truck dude!!!
(dammit!)
http://tinyurl.com/zkm2xc9
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:15 PM (Cz05v)
Yeah, Aaron Copeland...
I used to go up to the top of Campbell Drive in Tucson, AZ and blast this and watch the fireworks down below!
You know that your "secret" is revealed when you see an Ice-Cream truck...
Good on you Ice Cream truck dude!!!
(dammit!)
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (xPWMR)
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Acoustic guitar version of "The Stars and Stripes Forever"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3eBmcwl9h8
Different. I kind of like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3eBmcwl9h8
Different. I kind of like it.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (e8zmj)
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One of the Brexit sore losers in the vid was this very very stupid young girl saying "it's like a marriage -- you don't just leave the first time you get angry, you stay and work things out."
They're not only Hitler Youth, but they're immature and foolish Hitler Youth.
They're like Joe Biden -- he's not only stupid, but he's a stupid person in power who thinks he's smart, which makes him dangerous.
One of the Brexit sore losers in the vid was this very very stupid young girl saying "it's like a marriage -- you don't just leave the first time you get angry, you stay and work things out."
They're not only Hitler Youth, but they're immature and foolish Hitler Youth.
They're like Joe Biden -- he's not only stupid, but he's a stupid person in power who thinks he's smart, which makes him dangerous.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (uBIoa)
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Here is an interesting timeline:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybs7n2b
4/19/1775 The Battles of Lexington and Concord Lexington and Concord Massachusetts
5/10/1775 The Siege of Fort Ticonderoga Fort Ticonderoga, New York
5/27/1775 The Battle of Chelsea Creek Suffolk County, Massachusetts
6/16/1775 The Battle of Bunker (Breeds) Hill Charlestown, Massachusetts
12/31/1775 The Battle of Quebec Quebec City, Province of Quebec
8/27/1776 The Battle of Long Island (Brooklyn Heights) Long Island, New York
10/28/1776 The Battle of White Plains White Plains, New York
11/16/1776 The Battle of Fort Washington Washington Heights, Manhattan, New York
12/26/1776 The Battle of Trenton Trenton, New Jersey
1/3/1777 The Battle of Princeton Princeton, New Jersey
8/6/1777 The Battle of Oriskany Oriskany, New York
8/16/1777 The Battle of Bennington Bennington, New York
9/11/1777 The Battle of Brandywine Near Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania
9/19/1777 The Battle of Saratoga (Freeman's Farm) Saratoga County, New York
10/4/1777 The Battle of Germantown Germantown, Pennsylvania
10/7/1777 The Battle of Saratoga (Bemis Heights) Saratoga County, New York
6/28/1778 The Battle of Monmouth Monmouth, New Jersey
12/29/1778 The Capture of Savannah Savannah, Georgia
3/29/1780 The Siege of Charleston Charleston, South Carolina
8/16/1780 The Battle of Camden North of Camden, South Carolina
10/7/1780 The Battle of King's Mountain Near Blackburn, SC and King's Mountain, NC
1/17/1781 The Battle of Cowpens Cowpens, South Carolina
3/15/1781 The Battle of Guilford Courthouse Guilford Courthouse, North Carolina
9/8/1781 The Battle of Eutaw Springs Near present-day Eutawville, South Carolina
10/9/1781 The Battle of Yorktown Yorktown, Virginia
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybs7n2b
4/19/1775 The Battles of Lexington and Concord Lexington and Concord Massachusetts
5/10/1775 The Siege of Fort Ticonderoga Fort Ticonderoga, New York
5/27/1775 The Battle of Chelsea Creek Suffolk County, Massachusetts
6/16/1775 The Battle of Bunker (Breeds) Hill Charlestown, Massachusetts
12/31/1775 The Battle of Quebec Quebec City, Province of Quebec
8/27/1776 The Battle of Long Island (Brooklyn Heights) Long Island, New York
10/28/1776 The Battle of White Plains White Plains, New York
11/16/1776 The Battle of Fort Washington Washington Heights, Manhattan, New York
12/26/1776 The Battle of Trenton Trenton, New Jersey
1/3/1777 The Battle of Princeton Princeton, New Jersey
8/6/1777 The Battle of Oriskany Oriskany, New York
8/16/1777 The Battle of Bennington Bennington, New York
9/11/1777 The Battle of Brandywine Near Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania
9/19/1777 The Battle of Saratoga (Freeman's Farm) Saratoga County, New York
10/4/1777 The Battle of Germantown Germantown, Pennsylvania
10/7/1777 The Battle of Saratoga (Bemis Heights) Saratoga County, New York
6/28/1778 The Battle of Monmouth Monmouth, New Jersey
12/29/1778 The Capture of Savannah Savannah, Georgia
3/29/1780 The Siege of Charleston Charleston, South Carolina
8/16/1780 The Battle of Camden North of Camden, South Carolina
10/7/1780 The Battle of King's Mountain Near Blackburn, SC and King's Mountain, NC
1/17/1781 The Battle of Cowpens Cowpens, South Carolina
3/15/1781 The Battle of Guilford Courthouse Guilford Courthouse, North Carolina
9/8/1781 The Battle of Eutaw Springs Near present-day Eutawville, South Carolina
10/9/1781 The Battle of Yorktown Yorktown, Virginia
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:27 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: t-bird at July 04, 2016 12:27 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:27 PM (Cz05v)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:27 PM (iQIUe)
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Pity about Ferguson being killed at King's Mountain, his being on the Brit side, notwithstanding.
He'd invented one hell of a rifle, one which the Brits rejected, and we should've put into production as our own.
Not being on the blackpowder side of the shooting sports, I'll posit the question:
Are there any modern-era, reproduction Ferguson Rifles available in the market? It's efficient and advanced enough to consider even for modern use, if need be.
Hell, for that matter, I'd like to see a thoroughly modernized take on the idea. Same breechblock technology, but with a modern lock, 209 primers, synthetic stock with modern lines, superior barrel, optics, etc.
That the Ferguson rifle was passed over in it's time, astounds me still. It would have utterly changed the battlefield in the hands of whichever army that fielded it.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
He'd invented one hell of a rifle, one which the Brits rejected, and we should've put into production as our own.
Not being on the blackpowder side of the shooting sports, I'll posit the question:
Are there any modern-era, reproduction Ferguson Rifles available in the market? It's efficient and advanced enough to consider even for modern use, if need be.
Hell, for that matter, I'd like to see a thoroughly modernized take on the idea. Same breechblock technology, but with a modern lock, 209 primers, synthetic stock with modern lines, superior barrel, optics, etc.
That the Ferguson rifle was passed over in it's time, astounds me still. It would have utterly changed the battlefield in the hands of whichever army that fielded it.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2016 12:28 PM (v5iqM)
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Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
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40 years? As Garth Brooks would say - I'm much too young to be this damn old.
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40 years? As Garth Brooks would say - I'm much too young to be this damn old.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:28 PM (dFi94)
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it's like a marriage -- you don't just leave the first time you get angry, you stay and work things out.
... and if that doesn't work for you then your husband can bloody you up some.
... and if that doesn't work for you then your husband can bloody you up some.
Posted by: shari'a at July 04, 2016 12:28 PM (x4YoJ)
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canada was royalist and became more so after the war. England gave tracts of land in Canada to their soldiers who had fought in the revolutionary war. Technically still part of the commonwealth
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (zOTsN)
Canada was also settled by a different sort of people. They kept ties to Britain, worked for British corporations (Hudsons Bay Company, Northwest Company), and regarded themselves as colonists of the mother country, not as founders of a new one. The separate colonies did not unite into a single country until 1867, but more and more power was devolving onto local legislatures.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 04, 2016 10:26 AM (zOTsN)
Canada was also settled by a different sort of people. They kept ties to Britain, worked for British corporations (Hudsons Bay Company, Northwest Company), and regarded themselves as colonists of the mother country, not as founders of a new one. The separate colonies did not unite into a single country until 1867, but more and more power was devolving onto local legislatures.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 12:29 PM (GSdpU)
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"....we pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
We are, indeed, free of the British monarchy. In its place, we have erected a behemoth that has taken over our lives, robbed us of our fortunes, and assaults, at every turn, our honor.
We are assailed from all sides with how to live, what to think, what we MUST do or buy, and what we can and cannot do, all to assuage a community of our betters.
We are taxed so egregiously that the government is our biggest creditor, and we do not begin to earn money for our families, in a regular work week, until around lunchtime on Wednesday. But at least our few assets are plundered for the benefit of the few as we sleep.
And our honor? Well, when one is forced by law to pretend that two men are married, or that the right to kill one's baby is firmly enshrined in the thought and philosophy of the Founders by the same fucking people that believe "shall not be infringed" means "common sense control", our intelligence is under the thumb of window lickers out only to enrich themselves.
What, in the ever loving fuck, are we celebrating today?
Happy Serfdom Day.
We are, indeed, free of the British monarchy. In its place, we have erected a behemoth that has taken over our lives, robbed us of our fortunes, and assaults, at every turn, our honor.
We are assailed from all sides with how to live, what to think, what we MUST do or buy, and what we can and cannot do, all to assuage a community of our betters.
We are taxed so egregiously that the government is our biggest creditor, and we do not begin to earn money for our families, in a regular work week, until around lunchtime on Wednesday. But at least our few assets are plundered for the benefit of the few as we sleep.
And our honor? Well, when one is forced by law to pretend that two men are married, or that the right to kill one's baby is firmly enshrined in the thought and philosophy of the Founders by the same fucking people that believe "shall not be infringed" means "common sense control", our intelligence is under the thumb of window lickers out only to enrich themselves.
What, in the ever loving fuck, are we celebrating today?
Happy Serfdom Day.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:29 PM (EUMr7)
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That reminds me:
Anyone notice we haven't heard much of "honor killings" in the 'news' lately?
Is it because they're not happening, or because the media and the law are doing a better job of hiding it from us? Of course it's the latter.
That reminds me:
Anyone notice we haven't heard much of "honor killings" in the 'news' lately?
Is it because they're not happening, or because the media and the law are doing a better job of hiding it from us? Of course it's the latter.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:30 PM (uBIoa)
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40 years ago today in the greatest special forces raid since WW2 Israelis rescued 102 hostages at Entebbe, Uganda.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
Yup....every time I see a big, black Mercedes sedan I think of Idi Amin and how Netanyahu used it against him.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
Yup....every time I see a big, black Mercedes sedan I think of Idi Amin and how Netanyahu used it against him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 12:31 PM (ej1L0)
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ABC's Martha Raddatz hilariously misreads a Donald Trump tweet --- She adds "Crooked" in front of "Hillary Clinton"!
I think I just heard Scott Adams orgasm!
Trump's also got his MSM enemies using the phrase "President Trump" quite often that is also a propaganda victory even when used unflatteringly as it admits he could very well end up winning.
I think I just heard Scott Adams orgasm!
Trump's also got his MSM enemies using the phrase "President Trump" quite often that is also a propaganda victory even when used unflatteringly as it admits he could very well end up winning.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:31 PM (A/+my)
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If I remember correctly, Senator (Reverend) John Danforth was one of the officiants at President Reagan's funeral. Church and State. Tsk Tsk.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (dFi94)
Danforth is part of the old guard of the GOP, still somewhat active as a Senior Stateman. It's easy to pull and tug at these guys, because they seem to have exited the womb as curmudgeons.
He's an honorable guy though. I'm pretty sure he's on the anti-Trump bandwagon, but I can't recall exactly what he said. I can understand it, coming from his perspective, how he doesn't like the direction his Party has taken, but then he should have been just as vocal in his condemnation of Boehner and McConnell, and since he is not, I have to think his Party loyalty is misplaced.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:24 PM (dFi94)
Danforth is part of the old guard of the GOP, still somewhat active as a Senior Stateman. It's easy to pull and tug at these guys, because they seem to have exited the womb as curmudgeons.
He's an honorable guy though. I'm pretty sure he's on the anti-Trump bandwagon, but I can't recall exactly what he said. I can understand it, coming from his perspective, how he doesn't like the direction his Party has taken, but then he should have been just as vocal in his condemnation of Boehner and McConnell, and since he is not, I have to think his Party loyalty is misplaced.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:32 PM (Dj0WE)
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Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th
Right on.
Independence, my ass.
What pisses me of is I'm not even the one giving away MY FREEDOM, it's all these other Shits doing it, supported mostly by young people.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th
Right on.
Independence, my ass.
What pisses me of is I'm not even the one giving away MY FREEDOM, it's all these other Shits doing it, supported mostly by young people.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:33 PM (uBIoa)
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So far in Chicago this weekend, only 3 killed and 30 wounded.
So far in Chicago this weekend, only 3 killed and 30 wounded.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:33 PM (iQIUe)
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Stuff I knew as a kid, unheard of by the folk in the North. A friend who
moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South
played any part in the Revolution.
Interesting. I've
always been very, very interested in the the Southern and Western
theaters. Most general histories I've read at mention them, and I've
always figured that the reason that the treatment often seems inadequate
was my own preoccupation with those particular areas. Maybe it isn't
me...
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (bZ7mE)
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Louisiana Purchase wasn't until 1803 so for Indiana and Illinois (and others), the South and East is almost the 'old country' now.
moved here from Indiana told me that he had no idea that the South
played any part in the Revolution.
Interesting. I've
always been very, very interested in the the Southern and Western
theaters. Most general histories I've read at mention them, and I've
always figured that the reason that the treatment often seems inadequate
was my own preoccupation with those particular areas. Maybe it isn't
me...
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:25 PM (bZ7mE)
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Louisiana Purchase wasn't until 1803 so for Indiana and Illinois (and others), the South and East is almost the 'old country' now.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 04, 2016 12:34 PM (MIKMs)
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The separate colonies did not unite into a single country until 1867
Even then Newfoundland was separate until they went bankrupt and went begging for a bailout IIRC.
Even then Newfoundland was separate until they went bankrupt and went begging for a bailout IIRC.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 12:34 PM (x4YoJ)
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Meanwhile...at the gay pride parade in Toronto, the black lives matter people extorted the danegeld --- a new tyranny is upon us.
Oh well, just another far right group getting their comeuppance. Oh, wait
Posted by: Ed gibbon at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (vRNwc)
The beauty of that is that it is totally Prog vs Prog bullshit. No sane conservative would be within a mile of the place. This twitter exchange is hilarious:
https://twitter.com/simaxyn/status/749372567576801280
Oh well, just another far right group getting their comeuppance. Oh, wait
Posted by: Ed gibbon at July 04, 2016 10:40 AM (vRNwc)
The beauty of that is that it is totally Prog vs Prog bullshit. No sane conservative would be within a mile of the place. This twitter exchange is hilarious:
https://twitter.com/simaxyn/status/749372567576801280
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 12:34 PM (GSdpU)
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Posted by: BurtTC at July 04, 2016 12:32 PM (Dj0WE)
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He earned my respect when he went to the mat for Clarence Thomas.
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He earned my respect when he went to the mat for Clarence Thomas.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:34 PM (dFi94)
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Fellow Morons,
This Fourth of July, please consider helping an American hero who our country failed.
In Iraq, Sgt. Ray Jennings commanded a five-man team that hunted high-value terrorists. On one mission, he narrowly avoided death when an IED exploded by his humvee, killing three people.
When he came back on leave in 2005 to visit his wife and children, he was arrested at gunpoint and wrongly accused of murder. There was no physical evidence or witness, but the prosecution alleged that the killer's firearms skill indicated military training.
Ray was sentenced to life in prison. Last week, after 11 years behind bars, he was freed at the request of the DA's office. It turns out the killer was a gangbanger with no military connection.
Unfortunately, the State is not offering Ray any compensation for his 11-year ordeal. He was released onto the street with no money, no clothes, and no place to stay.
I am the law student who discovered Ray's case and helped exonerate him. Now I'm trying to raise enough money to help him get back on his feet.
So far, I've collected more than $10,000 on this GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
But that's only a fraction of the money Ray needs to get back on his feet and provide for his 5 kids, who have been living in poverty without him.
Ray is an incredible man, whose deep faith in Christ has allowed him to maintain a positive, friendly attitude after everything he's been through.
He's embarrassed to need help, but he really deserves it. Even if you can't donate right now, you can still make a difference by sharing the GoFundMe page on social media.
If Ace or any of the bloggers want to feature Ray's story, that would also be amazing.
This Fourth of July, please consider helping an American hero who our country failed.
In Iraq, Sgt. Ray Jennings commanded a five-man team that hunted high-value terrorists. On one mission, he narrowly avoided death when an IED exploded by his humvee, killing three people.
When he came back on leave in 2005 to visit his wife and children, he was arrested at gunpoint and wrongly accused of murder. There was no physical evidence or witness, but the prosecution alleged that the killer's firearms skill indicated military training.
Ray was sentenced to life in prison. Last week, after 11 years behind bars, he was freed at the request of the DA's office. It turns out the killer was a gangbanger with no military connection.
Unfortunately, the State is not offering Ray any compensation for his 11-year ordeal. He was released onto the street with no money, no clothes, and no place to stay.
I am the law student who discovered Ray's case and helped exonerate him. Now I'm trying to raise enough money to help him get back on his feet.
So far, I've collected more than $10,000 on this GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
But that's only a fraction of the money Ray needs to get back on his feet and provide for his 5 kids, who have been living in poverty without him.
Ray is an incredible man, whose deep faith in Christ has allowed him to maintain a positive, friendly attitude after everything he's been through.
He's embarrassed to need help, but he really deserves it. Even if you can't donate right now, you can still make a difference by sharing the GoFundMe page on social media.
If Ace or any of the bloggers want to feature Ray's story, that would also be amazing.
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 12:35 PM (pL67z)
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"So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat."
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Irish having a pinata at a party?
Talk about cultural appropriation!
I don't care if they filled it with potatoes and little bottles of whiskey. It's an outrage!
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Irish having a pinata at a party?
Talk about cultural appropriation!
I don't care if they filled it with potatoes and little bottles of whiskey. It's an outrage!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 12:35 PM (T/5A0)
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And last, Stars and Stripes Forever, John Philips Sousa
The Presidents Own, Marine Corp Band
http://tinyurl.com/lsm62xd
What we celebrate today is every ideal that we hoped for, that patriots gave their last full measure for. They died trying.
And everything that could be again.
Are you a sunshine patriot? What will you do...tomorrow?
A Republic, if you can keep it.
The Presidents Own, Marine Corp Band
http://tinyurl.com/lsm62xd
What we celebrate today is every ideal that we hoped for, that patriots gave their last full measure for. They died trying.
And everything that could be again.
Are you a sunshine patriot? What will you do...tomorrow?
A Republic, if you can keep it.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 12:36 PM (Cz05v)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 12:19 PM (9mTYi)
When I was kid, everyone pretended to be (more or less) one of four or five people when "playing war":
Francis Marion
Davey Crockett
Nathan Bedford Forrest
Alvin C. York
George S. Patton
When I was kid, everyone pretended to be (more or less) one of four or five people when "playing war":
Francis Marion
Davey Crockett
Nathan Bedford Forrest
Alvin C. York
George S. Patton
Posted by: Country Singer at July 04, 2016 12:36 PM (GUBah)
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I wonder how long it'll be until Chicago and obama's feds start handing out bulletproof vests as sort of like another 'community protection' program.
It'll be a $10 Billion program. One million for vests, and $999,000,000 for a graft giveaway. The Republicans, of course, would help pass it.
I wonder how long it'll be until Chicago and obama's feds start handing out bulletproof vests as sort of like another 'community protection' program.
It'll be a $10 Billion program. One million for vests, and $999,000,000 for a graft giveaway. The Republicans, of course, would help pass it.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 12:37 PM (uBIoa)
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>>>Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat."
Did it have water wings in it? Needs water wings.
Did it have water wings in it? Needs water wings.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:37 PM (EUMr7)
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Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 12:35 PM (pL67z)
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Thank you Clint. I'll read up on this story, and if it is as you say, I would be happy to contribute to the GoFundMe thing.
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Thank you Clint. I'll read up on this story, and if it is as you say, I would be happy to contribute to the GoFundMe thing.
Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:37 PM (dFi94)
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Having phone net problems. Just wanted to say, I spent my Apple settlement Amazon credit on The Curious Disappearance of Seamus Muldoon, and Golden Isis.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 04, 2016 12:38 PM (6bvJr)
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So I wake up to a Twitter hashtag trending that says #AmericaWasNeverGreat.
Certain that this was a sarcastic hashtag, and people would be saying how America really was great, and then saying #AmericawasNeverGreat in a tongue in cheek way, I scrolled through the first 50 or so.
Nope, it's entirely real. When the people aren't talking about whitey slaughtering Native Americans or enslaving Africans, they are talking about all the white people offended by the hashtag.
Our nation is too far gone, right? As much as I'd like to go all Will McAvoy and say, "America isn't the greatest, but it can be again." I think it's too far gone.
RIP America.
Certain that this was a sarcastic hashtag, and people would be saying how America really was great, and then saying #AmericawasNeverGreat in a tongue in cheek way, I scrolled through the first 50 or so.
Nope, it's entirely real. When the people aren't talking about whitey slaughtering Native Americans or enslaving Africans, they are talking about all the white people offended by the hashtag.
Our nation is too far gone, right? As much as I'd like to go all Will McAvoy and say, "America isn't the greatest, but it can be again." I think it's too far gone.
RIP America.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 12:40 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: Ben Roethlesburger at July 04, 2016 12:41 PM (9KfYY)
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Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:29 PM (EUMr7)
Sorry about your butt hurt, my ass aches constantly as well.
I choose to CELEBRATE, this day, and these ideals.
Yay, Independence Day!
Sorry about your butt hurt, my ass aches constantly as well.
I choose to CELEBRATE, this day, and these ideals.
Yay, Independence Day!
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:41 PM (xPWMR)
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>>>So I wake up to a Twitter hashtag trending that says #AmericaWasNeverGreat.
Brought to you by your local College of Education.
Make sure to donate to the local PTA.
Brought to you by your local College of Education.
Make sure to donate to the local PTA.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:42 PM (EUMr7)
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Are there any modern-era, reproduction Ferguson Rifles available in the
market? It's efficient and advanced enough to consider even for modern
use, if need be.
Used to be, for sure. Narraganset Arms made a few. Problem is that it is a bit more sophisticated than it looks - the breech is supposed to be made with a 2 percent taper (and possibly out of bronze, though I am not sure about that) otherwise it jams up very fast. Cutting threads on a tapering plug and its corresponding hole is difficult, I imagine. Also, the stock was pretty weak.
Frankly, I doubt you could improve it much by modernizing - the new barrels aren't better than the old design (arguably worse), the 18th century stock is probably a better design than the new crap (though synthetic materials would help with breakage at the wrist). A good percussion lock would work (though the change to a closed system over an open system of ignition might create unforseen problems), though why you'd want a rifle primer I don't know, and of course the option for optics are always nice.
Modern muzzleloaders are basically workarounds for shoddy replicas, and aren't much of an improvement over a good traditional sidelock. They are, however, much cheaper, since they don't require a bunch of skilled handwork to make correctly. Truly accurate replicas, made to original lines, can't be made on a machine.
market? It's efficient and advanced enough to consider even for modern
use, if need be.
Used to be, for sure. Narraganset Arms made a few. Problem is that it is a bit more sophisticated than it looks - the breech is supposed to be made with a 2 percent taper (and possibly out of bronze, though I am not sure about that) otherwise it jams up very fast. Cutting threads on a tapering plug and its corresponding hole is difficult, I imagine. Also, the stock was pretty weak.
Frankly, I doubt you could improve it much by modernizing - the new barrels aren't better than the old design (arguably worse), the 18th century stock is probably a better design than the new crap (though synthetic materials would help with breakage at the wrist). A good percussion lock would work (though the change to a closed system over an open system of ignition might create unforseen problems), though why you'd want a rifle primer I don't know, and of course the option for optics are always nice.
Modern muzzleloaders are basically workarounds for shoddy replicas, and aren't much of an improvement over a good traditional sidelock. They are, however, much cheaper, since they don't require a bunch of skilled handwork to make correctly. Truly accurate replicas, made to original lines, can't be made on a machine.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:43 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:43 PM (EUMr7)
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>>>we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes,
Yeah, it's your fair share!
>>>and our sacred Honor.
Huh? What do you mean by that?
Yeah, it's your fair share!
>>>and our sacred Honor.
Huh? What do you mean by that?
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 04, 2016 12:44 PM (/mnCx)
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We have obtained video footage of the piñata party at the Kennedy compound. In slow motion you can see fragments of the piñata flying in a different direction, striking one of the Kennedy grandchildren in the wrist. In two separate frames you can make out the vague outline of a second stick-swinger on a grassy knoll to the southwest.
Posted by: Seamus Zapruder at July 04, 2016 12:44 PM (NeFrd)
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Sorry about your butt hurt, my ass aches constantly as well.
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:41 PM (xPWMR)
Then you're probably doing it wrong.
And where have you been? I haven't seen you on here in a month of Sundays.
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:41 PM (xPWMR)
Then you're probably doing it wrong.
And where have you been? I haven't seen you on here in a month of Sundays.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:44 PM (e8zmj)
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Are there any modern-era, reproduction Ferguson Rifles available in the market? It's efficient and advanced enough to consider even for modern use, if need be.
I'm pretty sure there are as I'm certain I've read of Ferguson rifle reenactors. You can probably find reproductions for sale through Bing. I think you can get Puckle "machine-guns" so you can probably find Ferguson rifles!
That the Ferguson rifle was passed over in its time, astounds me still. It would have utterly changed the battlefield in the hands of whichever army that fielded it.
From the Brass's p.o.v. they were alot more expensive than standard muskets.
Maybe worried about ammunition costs/usage and resupply as well (that also affected all armies' thinking on early era machine-guns when that became technologically doable).
But the main thing was it would have required a complete change in training and tactics that was socially unacceptable as well like having common foot soldiers and their NCOs having to think for themselves alot more that was only just starting up in the late 18th Century with the use of purposefully-assigned skirmishing troops used on the battlefield and not just in the raiding of "petite guerre". Von Steuben probably wouldn't have approved either!
And this was with British troops and even in an era when European Continental armies were using linear tactics (contrasted with columnar tactics of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars) that was alot closer to the linear loose-order tactics that would finally be adopted by the mid-19th Century with the widespread use of the rifle-muzzle-loading musket.
So costs and social issues is the short answer.
I'm pretty sure there are as I'm certain I've read of Ferguson rifle reenactors. You can probably find reproductions for sale through Bing. I think you can get Puckle "machine-guns" so you can probably find Ferguson rifles!
That the Ferguson rifle was passed over in its time, astounds me still. It would have utterly changed the battlefield in the hands of whichever army that fielded it.
From the Brass's p.o.v. they were alot more expensive than standard muskets.
Maybe worried about ammunition costs/usage and resupply as well (that also affected all armies' thinking on early era machine-guns when that became technologically doable).
But the main thing was it would have required a complete change in training and tactics that was socially unacceptable as well like having common foot soldiers and their NCOs having to think for themselves alot more that was only just starting up in the late 18th Century with the use of purposefully-assigned skirmishing troops used on the battlefield and not just in the raiding of "petite guerre". Von Steuben probably wouldn't have approved either!
And this was with British troops and even in an era when European Continental armies were using linear tactics (contrasted with columnar tactics of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars) that was alot closer to the linear loose-order tactics that would finally be adopted by the mid-19th Century with the widespread use of the rifle-muzzle-loading musket.
So costs and social issues is the short answer.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:47 PM (A/+my)
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The United States of America is a great country.
The sad thing is it is not as great as it can be.
It is infested with Communists, Socialists, and Statists.
It is crippled by laws and Amendments that injure our Freedom.
It needs radical surgery.
The sad thing is it is not as great as it can be.
It is infested with Communists, Socialists, and Statists.
It is crippled by laws and Amendments that injure our Freedom.
It needs radical surgery.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 12:47 PM (MQEz6)
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We have obtained video footage of the piñata party at the Kennedy compound. In slow motion you can see...
Posted by: Seamus Zapruder at July 04, 2016 12:44 PM (NeFrd)
Yes, but the important questions are: was anybody raped? Or drowned? Or packed off to a mental institution and lobotomized?
Posted by: Seamus Zapruder at July 04, 2016 12:44 PM (NeFrd)
Yes, but the important questions are: was anybody raped? Or drowned? Or packed off to a mental institution and lobotomized?
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 12:47 PM (e8zmj)
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So the Daily Mail has an article on the Kennedy Clan having a Trump pinata at their Hyannis retreat.
"American royalty"
Guess we can happy that they haven't killed or raped anyone...yet
Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2016 12:00 PM (NOIQH)
Well, they didn't have a Hillary pinata, because everyone knows nothing good would come from it.
"American royalty"
Guess we can happy that they haven't killed or raped anyone...yet
Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2016 12:00 PM (NOIQH)
Well, they didn't have a Hillary pinata, because everyone knows nothing good would come from it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 12:50 PM (GSdpU)
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@281
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 04, 2016 12:38 PM (6bvJr)
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Thanks. The Curious Disappearance story strikes some people wrong, given the use of humor on the backdrop of a "missing presumed-murdered" true story. Still unsolved (with obvious suspect never apprehended or even questioned) now approaching the 8 year anniversary.
Just this week I finally got a hold of my F-I-L's old computer (which the police never even considered looking into at the time, Will be going through his files in detail to see if we can find any clues. I'd be interested to hear what you think of the story.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 04, 2016 12:38 PM (6bvJr)
*****
Thanks. The Curious Disappearance story strikes some people wrong, given the use of humor on the backdrop of a "missing presumed-murdered" true story. Still unsolved (with obvious suspect never apprehended or even questioned) now approaching the 8 year anniversary.
Just this week I finally got a hold of my F-I-L's old computer (which the police never even considered looking into at the time, Will be going through his files in detail to see if we can find any clues. I'd be interested to hear what you think of the story.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 12:51 PM (NeFrd)
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And did they have the world's largest Rice Krispies square?!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 12:51 PM (A/+my)
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But the main thing was it would have required a complete change in
training and tactics that was socially unacceptable as well like having
common foot soldiers and their NCOs having to think for themselves alot
more that was only just starting up in the late 18th Century with the
use of purposefully-assigned skirmishing troops used on the battlefield
and not just in the raiding of "petite guerre". Von Steuben probably
wouldn't have approved either!
The British were actually pretty forward thinking in that regard. Myth to the contrary, they used open lines that allowed speed (they actually jogged into battle) and flexibility, taught marksmanship, and pioneered the light infantry concept as early as the 7 years war, though by the 1770s the light infantry were basically just elite line infantry. As a matter of fact, they were rather more flexible than the Continentals once Steuben introduced European-continent-type drill.
BTW, little known fact, but the British actually developed a dandy little muzzleloading rifle, the M1776, in response to the American riflemen, and issued about a thousand to their men, though not to the line companies I believe.
training and tactics that was socially unacceptable as well like having
common foot soldiers and their NCOs having to think for themselves alot
more that was only just starting up in the late 18th Century with the
use of purposefully-assigned skirmishing troops used on the battlefield
and not just in the raiding of "petite guerre". Von Steuben probably
wouldn't have approved either!
The British were actually pretty forward thinking in that regard. Myth to the contrary, they used open lines that allowed speed (they actually jogged into battle) and flexibility, taught marksmanship, and pioneered the light infantry concept as early as the 7 years war, though by the 1770s the light infantry were basically just elite line infantry. As a matter of fact, they were rather more flexible than the Continentals once Steuben introduced European-continent-type drill.
BTW, little known fact, but the British actually developed a dandy little muzzleloading rifle, the M1776, in response to the American riflemen, and issued about a thousand to their men, though not to the line companies I believe.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (bZ7mE)
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I think the Air Force has the best looking women of the services.
Posted by: Sixkiller at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (yxupc)
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"Enjoy your stay at the gulag."
I doubt I will.
YOU sound like you will be super useless in the education camps.
"I told you so..."
I'm gonna bunk w/ ATC or JEF!
I doubt I will.
YOU sound like you will be super useless in the education camps.
"I told you so..."
I'm gonna bunk w/ ATC or JEF!
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (xPWMR)
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Hey, if someone "decolonizes" their selves, do they still get to vote?
What the hell does decolonize even mean?
This blog needs some diversity/gender studies majors.
What the hell does decolonize even mean?
This blog needs some diversity/gender studies majors.
Posted by: Old Colonist at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (qG0hz)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 04, 2016 12:56 PM (iQIUe)
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Well, they didn't have a Hillary pinata, because everyone knows nothing good would come from it.
****
Announcer's voice:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, today's overhead footage of the celebration at Hyannisport is brought to you by a special July 4th version of the Goodyear "Hillary" Blimp". Based out of Akron, Ohio, the Hill-blimp today is captained by Mortimer Snodgrass of Middlesboro, Tennessee."
****
Announcer's voice:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, today's overhead footage of the celebration at Hyannisport is brought to you by a special July 4th version of the Goodyear "Hillary" Blimp". Based out of Akron, Ohio, the Hill-blimp today is captained by Mortimer Snodgrass of Middlesboro, Tennessee."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 12:56 PM (NeFrd)
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BTW, I think I remember I seeing a replica Ferguson on one of the tables at the Kentucky Rifle Show back in April. So there are a few out there.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 12:57 PM (bZ7mE)
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300
Hey, if someone "decolonizes" their selves, do they still get to vote?
What the hell does decolonize even mean?
Posted by: Old Colonist at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (qG0hz)
"Decolonize" means to have your colon removed. That is certainly no reason to deny someone the right to vote.
Hey, if someone "decolonizes" their selves, do they still get to vote?
What the hell does decolonize even mean?
Posted by: Old Colonist at July 04, 2016 12:55 PM (qG0hz)
"Decolonize" means to have your colon removed. That is certainly no reason to deny someone the right to vote.
Posted by: Mimzey at July 04, 2016 12:58 PM (aRUb8)
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I think the Air Force has the best looking women of the services.
Posted by: Sixkiller
*****
Air conditioning can have a salutary effect.
Posted by: Sixkiller
*****
Air conditioning can have a salutary effect.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
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"298 I think the Air Force has the best looking women of the services."
That's because they don't have to DO anything, really, do they?
It's mostly an office job...
That's because they don't have to DO anything, really, do they?
It's mostly an office job...
Posted by: Deety at July 04, 2016 12:59 PM (xPWMR)
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The Kennedys ..a sad bunch of trust fund nobodies. Think what you will about Mr. Trump but he does run a business aided by children who actually work. So if batting around a piñata makes the little nobodies fell better about their worthless selves I say let them.
Posted by: Tuna at July 04, 2016 01:00 PM (JSovD)
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263---What, in the ever loving fuck, are we celebrating today?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:29 PM (EUMr7)
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We are celebrating the men, the documents, the acts, and the ideas that initially formed this nation.
For me, the 4th of July isn't an Isn't-America-Wonderful?!? day. It's a day to reconnect with the Foundation and to remember what it originally was about, to remember the principles and ideals.
There is no reason for leftists to celebrate it that way, of course, given that they despise the Foundation. But for conservatives it's important, especially now that we are a minority. We need to be reminded that we are not alone, that, win or lose, we stand with Washington, Jefferson, and Adams.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016 12:29 PM (EUMr7)
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We are celebrating the men, the documents, the acts, and the ideas that initially formed this nation.
For me, the 4th of July isn't an Isn't-America-Wonderful?!? day. It's a day to reconnect with the Foundation and to remember what it originally was about, to remember the principles and ideals.
There is no reason for leftists to celebrate it that way, of course, given that they despise the Foundation. But for conservatives it's important, especially now that we are a minority. We need to be reminded that we are not alone, that, win or lose, we stand with Washington, Jefferson, and Adams.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 01:00 PM (T/5A0)
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@285
Sadly, it's a trifecta of trouble.
The more people that are educated the more people exposed to progressive, liberal ideas.
You have the educated ones smugly putting out this "Whitey Native Americans Slaves" narrative.
Then, you have the not college educated, barely high school educated folks jumping on board.
Sadly, it's a trifecta of trouble.
The more people that are educated the more people exposed to progressive, liberal ideas.
You have the educated ones smugly putting out this "Whitey Native Americans Slaves" narrative.
Then, you have the not college educated, barely high school educated folks jumping on board.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:02 PM (F5hTl)
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Posted by: grammie winger, 2 Chronicles 7:14 at July 04, 2016 12:37 PM (dFi94)
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Sadly, the story of Sgt. Jennings is just as bad as it sounds. He really needs our thanks and help.
I encourage everyone to read up on the story themselves. Here is an LA Times article:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-20160624-jennings-release-snap-story.html
Here is a pdf of the letter that persuaded the DA's office to let Ray out of prison: http://www.ehrlichfirm.com/jennings/Ray-Jennings-Letter-to-CRU-March-2-2016.pdf
And there is more information on the GoFundMe page for Ray:
https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
Thank you for helping an American hero!!!
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Sadly, the story of Sgt. Jennings is just as bad as it sounds. He really needs our thanks and help.
I encourage everyone to read up on the story themselves. Here is an LA Times article:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-20160624-jennings-release-snap-story.html
Here is a pdf of the letter that persuaded the DA's office to let Ray out of prison: http://www.ehrlichfirm.com/jennings/Ray-Jennings-Letter-to-CRU-March-2-2016.pdf
And there is more information on the GoFundMe page for Ray:
https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
Thank you for helping an American hero!!!
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 01:02 PM (pL67z)
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Just this week I finally got a hold of my F-I-L's old computer (which the police never even considered looking into at the time, Will be going through his files in detail to see if we can find any clues.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 12:51 PM (NeFrd)
When I consider your case, where the police investigation of your F-I-L's murder consisted of them sitting on their hands, and a burglary a friend of mine told me about where he showed the police two textbook-perfect handprints on the window sill, gave them the address of the crack-head whose basement contained a number of the burglarized items, according to a witness, and even with that, they did nothing, I can only conclude that their view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 12:51 PM (NeFrd)
When I consider your case, where the police investigation of your F-I-L's murder consisted of them sitting on their hands, and a burglary a friend of mine told me about where he showed the police two textbook-perfect handprints on the window sill, gave them the address of the crack-head whose basement contained a number of the burglarized items, according to a witness, and even with that, they did nothing, I can only conclude that their view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 01:05 PM (e8zmj)
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I can only conclude that their view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 01:05 PM (e8zmj)
*****
Wow. That's something. What size jurisdiction is that? In our case it is a small, rural county with very limited resources, but also very limited professionalism and motivation. I'd like to think that larger departments are more professionally run (but then I
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 04, 2016 01:05 PM (e8zmj)
*****
Wow. That's something. What size jurisdiction is that? In our case it is a small, rural county with very limited resources, but also very limited professionalism and motivation. I'd like to think that larger departments are more professionally run (but then I
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:08 PM (NeFrd)
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...can be naive at times.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:09 PM (NeFrd)
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"40 years ago today in the greatest special forces raid since WW2 Israelis rescued 102 hostages at Entebbe, Uganda."
And the death of Benjamin Netanyahu's brother, serving in the effort.
And the death of Benjamin Netanyahu's brother, serving in the effort.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 01:10 PM (noWW6)
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I can only conclude that their view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
They are tax collectors for the King.
I can only conclude that their view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
They are tax collectors for the King.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:10 PM (IqV8l)
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I think the new rifles were issued to select sharpshooters in the light infantry and grenadier companies.
And I vaguely recall that the German mercenary riflemen (feldjagers!) got them as well for standardization reasons although that might be my memory playing me false. (The War of Austrian Succession in the Italian theatre is my main area of interest so it's not like the AWI is my forte.)
And I vaguely recall that the German mercenary riflemen (feldjagers!) got them as well for standardization reasons although that might be my memory playing me false. (The War of Austrian Succession in the Italian theatre is my main area of interest so it's not like the AWI is my forte.)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 01:11 PM (A/+my)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 01:12 PM (kdS6q)
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See you later. Cheers.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 04, 2016 01:12 PM (A/+my)
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Did it have water wings in it? Needs water wings.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
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I'm at a loss. Does this refer to Oldsmobiles, or Piper Saratogas?
Wait, I do know the answer... "Yes".
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
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I'm at a loss. Does this refer to Oldsmobiles, or Piper Saratogas?
Wait, I do know the answer... "Yes".
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2016 01:12 PM (9mTYi)
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.....I can only conclude that their view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Six years ago, my Mother died of injuries from an auto accident (she was a passenger in a car driven by my brother-in-law and my sister was in the car also). My BiL is an expert driver, and was t-boned by a 1974 Ford pickup, driven by a guy with a Suspended License and no insurance.
And it was likely that he was DUI, but the local police did not investigate the accident properly at all (according to my cousin, who was a Sargent-detective show specialized in that for a city police force, and had been for years, now retired).
The accused stood trial and was given a suspended sentence for vehicular manslaughter. He could have killed all three of them, frankly. My BiL has had his knee permanently damaged from the accident. It never healed correctly
What a country, huh?
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Six years ago, my Mother died of injuries from an auto accident (she was a passenger in a car driven by my brother-in-law and my sister was in the car also). My BiL is an expert driver, and was t-boned by a 1974 Ford pickup, driven by a guy with a Suspended License and no insurance.
And it was likely that he was DUI, but the local police did not investigate the accident properly at all (according to my cousin, who was a Sargent-detective show specialized in that for a city police force, and had been for years, now retired).
The accused stood trial and was given a suspended sentence for vehicular manslaughter. He could have killed all three of them, frankly. My BiL has had his knee permanently damaged from the accident. It never healed correctly
What a country, huh?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 04, 2016 01:13 PM (Cz05v)
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In our case it is a small, rural county with very limited resources, but also very limited professionalism and motivation. I'd like to think that larger departments are more professionally run
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:08 PM (NeFrd)
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They aren't.
I say that as a law student who just spent the last year working to free an innocent man of a wrongful murder conviction.
He was a suspect only because of GROSS incompetence by the FBI and the LA County Sheriff's Department.
They knew the names of four other people at the scene of the crime. But they only interviewed 1 of those 4. And they never checked their criminal records.
Turns out they were a bunch of gangbangers. But the FBI's top profiler, Mark Safarik, made the straight-arrow soldier Sergeant Ray Jennings the prime suspect.
Truly mind-boggling incompetence.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:08 PM (NeFrd)
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They aren't.
I say that as a law student who just spent the last year working to free an innocent man of a wrongful murder conviction.
He was a suspect only because of GROSS incompetence by the FBI and the LA County Sheriff's Department.
They knew the names of four other people at the scene of the crime. But they only interviewed 1 of those 4. And they never checked their criminal records.
Turns out they were a bunch of gangbangers. But the FBI's top profiler, Mark Safarik, made the straight-arrow soldier Sergeant Ray Jennings the prime suspect.
Truly mind-boggling incompetence.
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 01:15 PM (pL67z)
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Listening to the national anthem reminds me of being in on-base theaters and the crusty old guys who would roust young punks such as myself and make us stand during it.
At Thile, the theater played the US and Danish anthems. At Pete Field, US and O, Canada.
Listening to the national anthem reminds me of being in on-base theaters and the crusty old guys who would roust young punks such as myself and make us stand during it.
At Thile, the theater played the US and Danish anthems. At Pete Field, US and O, Canada.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 04, 2016 01:15 PM (rjfGJ)
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Seems like the ominous shadow of truth is creeping over the sunny, happy land of Clinton supporters, where no one ever commits a crime or tells a lie.
Charles Blow's column today is a conditional eulogy. "In case this FBI thing goes the wrong way, let's pause to remember all the GREAT things she did in this campaign...."
The last paragraph is the giveaway.
Seems like the ominous shadow of truth is creeping over the sunny, happy land of Clinton supporters, where no one ever commits a crime or tells a lie.
Charles Blow's column today is a conditional eulogy. "In case this FBI thing goes the wrong way, let's pause to remember all the GREAT things she did in this campaign...."
The last paragraph is the giveaway.
Posted by: iforgot at July 04, 2016 01:15 PM (5o5ek)
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Thule
Posted by: Fox2! at July 04, 2016 01:16 PM (rjfGJ)
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I love America.
It's the country that gave us Larry Bird. John Mellencamp. Han Solo.
Anyone else can suck it.
Seamus, I hope you get justice!
It's the country that gave us Larry Bird. John Mellencamp. Han Solo.
Anyone else can suck it.
Seamus, I hope you get justice!
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:16 PM (F5hTl)
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He was a suspect only because of GROSS incompetence by the FBI and the LA County Sheriff's Department.
They knew the names of four other people at the scene of the crime. But they only interviewed 1 of those 4. And they never checked their criminal records.
Turns out they were a bunch of gangbangers. But the FBI's top profiler, Mark Safarik, made the straight-arrow soldier Sergeant Ray Jennings the prime suspect.
Truly mind-boggling incompetence.
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 01:15 PM (pL67z)
Seems to me that your guy has a slam-dunk case for a huge lawsuit for false imprisonment, or am I missing something?
They knew the names of four other people at the scene of the crime. But they only interviewed 1 of those 4. And they never checked their criminal records.
Turns out they were a bunch of gangbangers. But the FBI's top profiler, Mark Safarik, made the straight-arrow soldier Sergeant Ray Jennings the prime suspect.
Truly mind-boggling incompetence.
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 01:15 PM (pL67z)
Seems to me that your guy has a slam-dunk case for a huge lawsuit for false imprisonment, or am I missing something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 01:17 PM (GSdpU)
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Happy Serfdom Day.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016
Well, you could think of it as another memorial day. The passing away of the best attempt at bringing about a government that protects individual liberty rather than taking it away. But no matter how good the design, it will fail if sufficient numbers of evil, stupid people decide to follow something else (eg. Constitution as a "living document"). R.I.P.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz is in a sour fucking mood this 4th at July 04, 2016
Well, you could think of it as another memorial day. The passing away of the best attempt at bringing about a government that protects individual liberty rather than taking it away. But no matter how good the design, it will fail if sufficient numbers of evil, stupid people decide to follow something else (eg. Constitution as a "living document"). R.I.P.
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 04, 2016 01:19 PM (/mnCx)
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Off dogeater sock
Posted by: Yuimetal at July 04, 2016 01:21 PM (/mnCx)
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It occurs to me every time that I re-read the Declaration of Independence that virtually every line is as descriptive and accurate of the behavior and transgresses of our present day federal government as it was of the English monarchy in 1776. In particular, the tax, state, and individual rights issues.
How about we cross out the date, and resend a copy to the White House?
How about we cross out the date, and resend a copy to the White House?
Posted by: Damiano at July 04, 2016 01:21 PM (71OEY)
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And I vaguely recall that the German mercenary riflemen (feldjagers!)
got them as well for standardization reasons although that might be my
memory playing me false. (The War of Austrian Succession in the Italian
theatre is my main area of interest so it's not like the AWI is my
forte.)
The German jager corp were issued German rifles by their own governments, I believe. Some may have been issued m1776s later on, I'd have to check. I think, off the top of my head, most of the rifles ended up in the hands of cavalry and some provincial (i.e., loyalist) regiments. Ironically enough, about a hundred were at King's Mountain in the hands of Ferguson's Royal Americans.
I'll have to check DeWitt Bailey's book.
got them as well for standardization reasons although that might be my
memory playing me false. (The War of Austrian Succession in the Italian
theatre is my main area of interest so it's not like the AWI is my
forte.)
The German jager corp were issued German rifles by their own governments, I believe. Some may have been issued m1776s later on, I'd have to check. I think, off the top of my head, most of the rifles ended up in the hands of cavalry and some provincial (i.e., loyalist) regiments. Ironically enough, about a hundred were at King's Mountain in the hands of Ferguson's Royal Americans.
I'll have to check DeWitt Bailey's book.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:21 PM (bZ7mE)
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#291
I purchased replica parts for a Baker Rifle at the Rifle Shoppe many years ago. RS makes casts of original part. They've had Ferguson parts for sale, so I'd give them a call. Good people and a great catalog.
LINK: http://therifleshoppe.com/
I purchased replica parts for a Baker Rifle at the Rifle Shoppe many years ago. RS makes casts of original part. They've had Ferguson parts for sale, so I'd give them a call. Good people and a great catalog.
LINK: http://therifleshoppe.com/
Posted by: mrp at July 04, 2016 01:22 PM (JBggj)
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I would much rather hear the State Chamber Orchestra playing The Internationale.
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at July 04, 2016 01:23 PM (Tyii7)
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I can only conclude that their view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
334
#37 yep, and they stirred up a whole mess of trouble the grownups like Washington and Franklin had to fix.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 04, 2016 01:26 PM (Kucy5)
335
Is Han Solo a Hoosier?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:26 PM (IqV8l)
336
Report: Hillary Considering Keeping Loretta Lynch As AG
Of course she is. With the Clintons, Lynch wouldn't be leaving. Or is that arriving?
Weasel Zippers
What a bunch of mafia like crooks
Of course she is. With the Clintons, Lynch wouldn't be leaving. Or is that arriving?
Weasel Zippers
What a bunch of mafia like crooks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:26 PM (Ozsfq)
337
I get goosebumps when I think of Red October.
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at July 04, 2016 01:27 PM (Tyii7)
338
Donald J. Trump said on Twitter on Monday that he would meet in New Jersey with Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, as he screens potential running mates in a series of meetings.
Better than Christie or Gingrich
Better than Christie or Gingrich
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:28 PM (Ozsfq)
339
I'm positive Ferguson riles are available as reproductions. Being a Napoleoic war nut I've seen videos of firing recently. My reproduction of a Brown Bess was Italian made, I've had it since 1982 or so.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 01:29 PM (Yo9Lf)
340
Looks like m1776s WERE issued to at least some British light infantry companies. They are mentioned in the ordered issued for the attack at Paoli, for example. A lot of the records have been lost, however.
Incidentally, the reason why they only made 1000 is because the Ferguson rifle came along and they were anticipating producing those instead.
Incidentally, the reason why they only made 1000 is because the Ferguson rifle came along and they were anticipating producing those instead.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:31 PM (bZ7mE)
341
333 I can only conclude that their view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
Knee-jerk cop hater!
/sarc
force is and what it ought to be doing, and my view of what a police
force is and what it ought to be doing must be radically different.
Posted by: OregonMuse
I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
Knee-jerk cop hater!
/sarc
Posted by: Insomniac at July 04, 2016 01:31 PM (0mRoj)
342
A excellent shop in eastern central Pennsylvania Dixons Muzzleoading shop has everything to build your own.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 01:31 PM (Yo9Lf)
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:31 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (F5hTl)
345
I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
346
336 Report: Hillary Considering Keeping Loretta Lynch As AG
Of course she is. With the Clintons, Lynch wouldn't be leaving. Or is that arriving?
Weasel Zippers
What a bunch of mafia like crooks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:26 PM (Ozsfq)
Guess the tarmac meeting went well.
Of course she is. With the Clintons, Lynch wouldn't be leaving. Or is that arriving?
Weasel Zippers
What a bunch of mafia like crooks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:26 PM (Ozsfq)
Guess the tarmac meeting went well.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM (oKE6c)
347
Following several recent anti-Semitic scandals, yet another British Labour politician has been revealed to have compared Israel to the Nazis in a past social media post.
The star of Labours latest Party Political Broadcast online, said there are similarities between Israel and Nazis. Jawad Khan was the poster boy for Labours newest online broadcast and is pictured with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn on his Facebook page.
Khan, who was also a Labour Party candidate in the local elections in May, tweeted during the Israel-Gaza conflict:
Anyone else see the similarities between Israel and Nazis? the site Guido-Fawkes revealed.
What the fuck is up with the British labor party?
The star of Labours latest Party Political Broadcast online, said there are similarities between Israel and Nazis. Jawad Khan was the poster boy for Labours newest online broadcast and is pictured with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn on his Facebook page.
Khan, who was also a Labour Party candidate in the local elections in May, tweeted during the Israel-Gaza conflict:
Anyone else see the similarities between Israel and Nazis? the site Guido-Fawkes revealed.
What the fuck is up with the British labor party?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM (Ozsfq)
348
Seems to me that your guy has a slam-dunk case for a huge lawsuit for false imprisonment, or am I missing something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 01:17 PM (GSdpU)
==============================
Down the road, Sgt. Jennings will probably be able to recover compensation from the state in a lawsuit. But that is a process that takes years upon years.
He needs food and shelter right now. And his only source of money for affording them is the kindness of strangers via https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 01:17 PM (GSdpU)
==============================
Down the road, Sgt. Jennings will probably be able to recover compensation from the state in a lawsuit. But that is a process that takes years upon years.
He needs food and shelter right now. And his only source of money for affording them is the kindness of strangers via https://www.gofundme.com/RayJennings
Posted by: Clint Ehrlich at July 04, 2016 01:35 PM (pL67z)
349
>>The Kennedys ..a sad bunch of trust fund nobodies. Think what you will
about Mr. Trump but he does run a business aided by children who
actually work.
Ugh, yes. Had a friend who worked for the non-profit energy company started by former congressman Joe Kennedy. His brother Michael "ran" it. Dude came it to work drunk and disheveled all the time. Then it came out he had been sleeping with the neighbor's daughter/family babysitter from ages 14-19, and started stalking her when she dumped him. He's the one who skied into a tree playing ski-football.
#Winning
about Mr. Trump but he does run a business aided by children who
actually work.
Ugh, yes. Had a friend who worked for the non-profit energy company started by former congressman Joe Kennedy. His brother Michael "ran" it. Dude came it to work drunk and disheveled all the time. Then it came out he had been sleeping with the neighbor's daughter/family babysitter from ages 14-19, and started stalking her when she dumped him. He's the one who skied into a tree playing ski-football.
#Winning
Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2016 01:35 PM (NOIQH)
350
@333
That's odd. On Judge Judy, she says the owner is responsible for what happens in/with a car if someone else is driving the vehicle.
So, even if the lady wasn't driving it, wouldn't she be legally responsible for whoever else WAS driving the car?
That's odd. On Judge Judy, she says the owner is responsible for what happens in/with a car if someone else is driving the vehicle.
So, even if the lady wasn't driving it, wouldn't she be legally responsible for whoever else WAS driving the car?
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:36 PM (F5hTl)
351
Guess the tarmac meeting went well.
Ah have found that little titty-twister often works wonders. Heh.
Ah have found that little titty-twister often works wonders. Heh.
Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at July 04, 2016 01:36 PM (Tyii7)
352
What the fuck is up with the British labor party?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM
Two words - their leftists
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM
Two words - their leftists
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 01:37 PM (Yo9Lf)
353
Too nice out here, going for a bike ride.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2016 01:38 PM (Yo9Lf)
354
345 I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
I have had cops tell me and others right to our faces that they were letting somebody go (assault and battery) because there would be too much paperwork.
345 I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
I have had cops tell me and others right to our faces that they were letting somebody go (assault and battery) because there would be too much paperwork.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:38 PM (MQEz6)
355
I'm parching hominy in the oven right now. It keeps popping - I think a significant amount of my batch is going to end up on the bottom of the oven.
Next time, I do it on stove top with a lidded pot.
Next time, I do it on stove top with a lidded pot.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:38 PM (bZ7mE)
356
348 I have a guest room in flyover country.
Posted by: Infidel at July 04, 2016 01:39 PM (ml68g)
357
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:36 PM (F5hTl)
Yeah, you can kinda understand why I started vibrating and speaking in the unknown tongue when Mr. Detective told me he couldn't prosecute a car.
Yeah, you can kinda understand why I started vibrating and speaking in the unknown tongue when Mr. Detective told me he couldn't prosecute a car.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:39 PM (pz8nD)
358
#253: That is cool! I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing it here!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 01:39 PM (0OG8D)
359
All of us down at the Brattleboro Womens Reproductive, Gay, Lesbian, and Transgender Center want to wish Mr. Presdent and Ms. Micheal Obama a Happy 4th of July. We all love you and keeps up the goods work !
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 04, 2016 01:40 PM (Fbj4h)
360
I read the Wiki entry on Ferguson rifles. To my eye, that threaded breech plug seems to be one of the worst possible ways to build a breech-loader. Very intricate machining required. I'm not surprised that it was not standardized.
If I were to build a breech-loading black powder rifle, I'd consider either a break-action, like modern shotguns, or perhaps a bolt action, with a hollow bolt having an open top that could be charged with ball and powder from the top while open, and then, when closed, mesh with the receiver to become (mostly) gas-tight.
If I were to build a breech-loading black powder rifle, I'd consider either a break-action, like modern shotguns, or perhaps a bolt action, with a hollow bolt having an open top that could be charged with ball and powder from the top while open, and then, when closed, mesh with the receiver to become (mostly) gas-tight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 01:40 PM (GSdpU)
361
345 I was in a hit and run. Got the tag number. Cops
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
When I was in college, my best friend was on the sidewalk, looking for her dog. A rich frat boy hit her with his car, and witnesses said she "flew in the air like a beach ball." She sustained internal injuries, broken arm, broken ankle, and several broken ribs.
Frat boy's daddy was a lawyer, and got him off scott free.
Sometimes justice comes on time, sometimes, it takes a while.
found the car with damage and my truck's paint on it. Girl owned the
car " I wasn't driving the car."
Detective told me "I can't prosecute a car."
Wtaf is hit and run? Guilty as sin, free as a bird.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
They could seize it. You know, as evidence for when they find out who WAS driving it. We can pretend, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
When I was in college, my best friend was on the sidewalk, looking for her dog. A rich frat boy hit her with his car, and witnesses said she "flew in the air like a beach ball." She sustained internal injuries, broken arm, broken ankle, and several broken ribs.
Frat boy's daddy was a lawyer, and got him off scott free.
Sometimes justice comes on time, sometimes, it takes a while.
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:40 PM (ezHMO)
362
338 Donald J. Trump said on Twitter on Monday that he would meet in New Jersey with Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, as he screens potential running mates in a series of meetings.
Better than Christie or Gingrich
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:28 PM (Ozsfq)
Indeed so.
338 Donald J. Trump said on Twitter on Monday that he would meet in New Jersey with Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, as he screens potential running mates in a series of meetings.
Better than Christie or Gingrich
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:28 PM (Ozsfq)
Indeed so.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:40 PM (MQEz6)
363
And Happy Independence Day to the Horde!
I hope you are all well, and full from barbecues and fun doin's!!
I hope you are all well, and full from barbecues and fun doin's!!
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:41 PM (ezHMO)
364
What the fuck is up with the British labor party?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM (Ozsfq)
They are scum. Always have been, always will be.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:34 PM (Ozsfq)
They are scum. Always have been, always will be.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 01:43 PM (GSdpU)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:44 PM (x4YoJ)
366
@363
You too.
And, haven't you heard, there isn't anything to celebrate.
It's the birth of a nation, that was never really all that great.
You too.
And, haven't you heard, there isn't anything to celebrate.
It's the birth of a nation, that was never really all that great.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 01:44 PM (F5hTl)
367
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 04, 2016 01:40 PM
Any Independence Day specials going on up there at the clinic, Mary?
Any Independence Day specials going on up there at the clinic, Mary?
Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 04, 2016 01:45 PM (Tyii7)
368
338 Donald J. Trump said on Twitter on Monday that he would meet in New
Jersey with Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, as he screens
potential running mates in a series of meetings.
This is smart. It gives him an excuse to tag a lot of bases, and to solicit support, meanwhile setting up an auction-type environment between a whole series of hopefuls who will have an incentive to do his bidding so they get the nod. And all the while, staying in the news.
For someone who's not a career politician, he's pretty good at it.
Jersey with Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, as he screens
potential running mates in a series of meetings.
This is smart. It gives him an excuse to tag a lot of bases, and to solicit support, meanwhile setting up an auction-type environment between a whole series of hopefuls who will have an incentive to do his bidding so they get the nod. And all the while, staying in the news.
For someone who's not a career politician, he's pretty good at it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:46 PM (oKE6c)
369
If I were to build a breech-loading black powder rifle, I'd consider
either a break-action, like modern shotguns, or perhaps a bolt action,
with a hollow bolt having an open top that could be charged with ball
and powder from the top while open, and then, when closed, mesh with the
receiver to become (mostly) gas-tight.
The second was actually issued to the US Cavalry in the early 19th century (Hall's rifles). Problem is: They don't stay gas-tight for long.
Also, everything had to be hand-fitted in the 18th century and earlier. Virtually every breechloader design you can imagine was tried by around 1500 (inlcuding the screw breech), they just didn't work well with hand-fitted parts that had to shoot corrosive and extremely dirty black powder. Ferguson's was the best of the lot by a long country mile, but was basically a refinement of much earlier systems.
either a break-action, like modern shotguns, or perhaps a bolt action,
with a hollow bolt having an open top that could be charged with ball
and powder from the top while open, and then, when closed, mesh with the
receiver to become (mostly) gas-tight.
The second was actually issued to the US Cavalry in the early 19th century (Hall's rifles). Problem is: They don't stay gas-tight for long.
Also, everything had to be hand-fitted in the 18th century and earlier. Virtually every breechloader design you can imagine was tried by around 1500 (inlcuding the screw breech), they just didn't work well with hand-fitted parts that had to shoot corrosive and extremely dirty black powder. Ferguson's was the best of the lot by a long country mile, but was basically a refinement of much earlier systems.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:46 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 01:46 PM (kdS6q)
371
363 And Happy Independence Day to the Horde!
I hope you are all well, and full from barbecues and fun doin's!!
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:41 PM (ezHMO)
---
Hi Moki!
It's fixing to rain here and muggy as hell, so I'm indoors reading Catwoman comix and listening to the classical radio station. And drinking gin and tonics.
As our founding fathers intended.
I hope you are all well, and full from barbecues and fun doin's!!
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:41 PM (ezHMO)
---
Hi Moki!
It's fixing to rain here and muggy as hell, so I'm indoors reading Catwoman comix and listening to the classical radio station. And drinking gin and tonics.
As our founding fathers intended.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 01:47 PM (jR7Wy)
372
In sum, there is a good reason why the muzzleloaders dominated the firearms world for so long and why it was only after the industrial revolution that breechloaders took over.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:48 PM (bZ7mE)
373
Two hundred forty years ago today Ben Franklin nailed two waitresses, a seamstress, a milkmaid and her identical twin sister, and the gal that stole Jefferson's wig.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:48 PM (MQEz6)
374
Any Independence Day specials going on up there at the clinic, Mary?
They loosen the straps on the straight jacket.
Any Independence Day specials going on up there at the clinic, Mary?
They loosen the straps on the straight jacket.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:49 PM (IqV8l)
375
#350: Yeah, I'd say you are liable on some level if you lend your car to a friend and he gets in a hit-and-run and kills someone.
I mean, you're liable if you lend a gun to a friend and he then uses it to rob a bank, right?
It all comes down to, only lend your stuff to people you trust. Not just trust to return it to you, but also trust not to use it to commit a crime.
I mean, you're liable if you lend a gun to a friend and he then uses it to rob a bank, right?
It all comes down to, only lend your stuff to people you trust. Not just trust to return it to you, but also trust not to use it to commit a crime.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 01:49 PM (0OG8D)
376
Two hundred forty years ago today Ben Franklin nailed two waitresses, a seamstress, a milkmaid and her identical twin sister, and the gal that stole Jefferson's wig.
Posted by: eman
*****
New Motto:
America's Founding Fathers. We do more before 9 o'clock than most people do all day.
Posted by: eman
*****
New Motto:
America's Founding Fathers. We do more before 9 o'clock than most people do all day.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted and Brother Chris at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (Tyii7)
378
Incorrect.
Chris Christie would be a smart choice for vp. Trump needs someone who is excellent with the media, especially in this election.
All you NUMBNUTS out there need to realize something: Trump needs a veep candidate who doubles as a press agent.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Incorrect.
Chris Christie would be a smart choice for vp. Trump needs someone who is excellent with the media, especially in this election.
All you NUMBNUTS out there need to realize something: Trump needs a veep candidate who doubles as a press agent.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (uBIoa)
379
Any Independence Day specials going on up there at the clinic, Mary?
Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 04, 2016 01:45 PM (Tyii7)
Sure. Buy one STD, get another one free.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 04, 2016 01:45 PM (Tyii7)
Sure. Buy one STD, get another one free.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (oKE6c)
380
It's the birth of a nation
*****
Well, if the left had their way they would have aborted it in the womb, chopped it up and sold the parts.
*****
Well, if the left had their way they would have aborted it in the womb, chopped it up and sold the parts.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:51 PM (NeFrd)
381
I want an attack dog like Tom Cotton for veep.
If you want someone press savvy, can't do better'n Milo for press secretary.
If you want someone press savvy, can't do better'n Milo for press secretary.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 01:52 PM (jR7Wy)
382
365 Hi Moki!
I'm up here in the mountains enjoying the cool breezes, listening to Bowie.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:44 PM (x4YoJ)
{{{BTH}}}}
That sounds like heaven!!!
We had a late brunch at home, daughter is going to meet her physics/math major boyfriend for a picnic, and we are hunkering down with Firefly for the evening, since it's raining here. I got your book, by the way, and am really enjoying it. Well done, friend.
I'm up here in the mountains enjoying the cool breezes, listening to Bowie.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 01:44 PM (x4YoJ)
{{{BTH}}}}
That sounds like heaven!!!
We had a late brunch at home, daughter is going to meet her physics/math major boyfriend for a picnic, and we are hunkering down with Firefly for the evening, since it's raining here. I got your book, by the way, and am really enjoying it. Well done, friend.
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:52 PM (ezHMO)
383
"The passing away of the best attempt at bringing about a government that protects individual liberty rather than taking it away."
-----------------------------
Rather than mourning the passing, which we do every day, why not set aside one day --- this one --- to celebrate the ideals and efforts that cannot pass away. Truth, wisdom, honor, and courage are timeless.
Cicero was a loser. There was no way he could revive the Republic and stop the advance of the Caesars and the mobs. But his dedication and his courage, in the face of certain failure, gave us his words --- words that inspired many throughout the centuries, including our own Founding Fathers.
Save the mourning for tomorrow. This celebration is OURS, a day for those who treasure the vision, whether it wins or loses.
And, besides, it drives the leftists bonkers to see our positive celebration of those dead white men, whose ideas are SUPPOSED to be relegated to the ash-heap of history.
-----------------------------
Rather than mourning the passing, which we do every day, why not set aside one day --- this one --- to celebrate the ideals and efforts that cannot pass away. Truth, wisdom, honor, and courage are timeless.
Cicero was a loser. There was no way he could revive the Republic and stop the advance of the Caesars and the mobs. But his dedication and his courage, in the face of certain failure, gave us his words --- words that inspired many throughout the centuries, including our own Founding Fathers.
Save the mourning for tomorrow. This celebration is OURS, a day for those who treasure the vision, whether it wins or loses.
And, besides, it drives the leftists bonkers to see our positive celebration of those dead white men, whose ideas are SUPPOSED to be relegated to the ash-heap of history.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 01:52 PM (T/5A0)
384
378
Incorrect.
Chris Christie would be a smart choice for vp. Trump needs someone who is excellent with the media, especially in this election.
All you NUMBNUTS out there need to realize something: Trump needs a veep candidate who doubles as a press agent.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (uBIoa)
Seriously?
CC would be a disasterous choice.
Incorrect.
Chris Christie would be a smart choice for vp. Trump needs someone who is excellent with the media, especially in this election.
All you NUMBNUTS out there need to realize something: Trump needs a veep candidate who doubles as a press agent.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (uBIoa)
Seriously?
CC would be a disasterous choice.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:53 PM (MQEz6)
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I mean, you're liable if you lend a gun to a friend and he then uses it to rob a bank, right?
It all comes down to, only lend your stuff to people you trust. Not just trust to return it to you, but also trust not to use it to commit a crime.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 01:49 PM (0OG8D)
IANAL, but I think the answer is "no," unless you knew or should have had reason to know that he was contemplating a crime.
It all comes down to, only lend your stuff to people you trust. Not just trust to return it to you, but also trust not to use it to commit a crime.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 01:49 PM (0OG8D)
IANAL, but I think the answer is "no," unless you knew or should have had reason to know that he was contemplating a crime.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:53 PM (oKE6c)
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Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 04, 2016 01:25 PM (pz8nD)
I'd be making a few calls to the watch commander or someone above him. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
I'd be making a few calls to the watch commander or someone above him. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 04, 2016 01:53 PM (egOGm)
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All you NUMBNUTS out there need to realize something: Trump needs a veep candidate who doubles as a press agent.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (uBIoa)
****
That Dale Carnegie course is really paying off for you.
Christie is the worst possible VP choice for Trump.
The last thing Trump needs is a *symbolic* vp candidate who will be no help, or perhaps a detriment, with the media cocksuckers who will make it their mission to defeat Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:50 PM (uBIoa)
****
That Dale Carnegie course is really paying off for you.
Christie is the worst possible VP choice for Trump.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 04, 2016 01:53 PM (M2zF+)
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Do I like Chrip Chripsie?
No, no't'all.
But he brings a lot to the table. (Save the fat/food jokes, morons.) Joni Ernst brings nothing.
Do I like Chrip Chripsie?
No, no't'all.
But he brings a lot to the table. (Save the fat/food jokes, morons.) Joni Ernst brings nothing.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:54 PM (uBIoa)
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....why it was only after the industrial revolution that breechloaders took over.
******
I've got a load in my breeches!!
******
I've got a load in my breeches!!
Posted by: Great great great grandma Rodham, serpentine at Yorktown. at July 04, 2016 01:54 PM (NeFrd)
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I'm not a cop, but my brother, cousin, a handful of friends are, and there are some true things about them, at least the Central MA variety. They will never bust you for a bag or a few joints of pot if you're not an asshole when they pull you over for speeding, running a light, etc. Just admit it's yours, apologize, and you're good. They'll dump it (or maybe pocket it), either way, no drug charge. (Now that I write that, I realize the laws in MA have changed since I moved away, just a ticket now I think). All those "pot arrests" you used to see bandied about (not counting trafficking, etc.) were really "can't help being a dickbag arrests". Also, if an "assault and battery" is two guys who are reasonably matched, basically a bar fight that someone calls the cops on, the cops will go to some lengths to try to talk both parties into just walking away, consider the matter settled. That's actually a courtesy, as an assault arrest/conviction can be a career/life-altering fuck-up, and most of the cops have been in a few scuffles themselves over the years, they know how it is.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 04, 2016 01:54 PM (2cS/G)
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Christie is the worst possible VP choice for Trump.
Now I know I'm right! Heh.
Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough.
Christie is the worst possible VP choice for Trump.
Now I know I'm right! Heh.
Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (uBIoa)
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (IqV8l)
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It's fixing to rain here and muggy as hell, so I'm indoors reading Catwoman comix and listening to the classical radio station. And drinking gin and tonics.
As our founding fathers intended.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 01:47 PM (jR7Wy)
Smooches Eris!!
I saw some of those at the comic book store yesterday, with my kids. I found a gorgeous copy of Neil Gaiman's Hansel and Gretel, so that will probably be a Christmas present to one of them, as well as Rebellion, which is a graphic novel of the Revolutionary war. I may go back for that one myself. Also saw a Neil Gaiman and Alice Cooper comic of the Three Temptations of Christ-which was both weird and wonderful.
I'm reading the Coming of the Third Reich, by Richard Evans, which I think may be a harbinger for now.
I hope your day continues to be calm and peaceful!!!
It's fixing to rain here and muggy as hell, so I'm indoors reading Catwoman comix and listening to the classical radio station. And drinking gin and tonics.
As our founding fathers intended.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 01:47 PM (jR7Wy)
Smooches Eris!!
I saw some of those at the comic book store yesterday, with my kids. I found a gorgeous copy of Neil Gaiman's Hansel and Gretel, so that will probably be a Christmas present to one of them, as well as Rebellion, which is a graphic novel of the Revolutionary war. I may go back for that one myself. Also saw a Neil Gaiman and Alice Cooper comic of the Three Temptations of Christ-which was both weird and wonderful.
I'm reading the Coming of the Third Reich, by Richard Evans, which I think may be a harbinger for now.
I hope your day continues to be calm and peaceful!!!
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (ezHMO)
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#369 Commiefornia is also after home brew gunsmithing, fwiw
Posted by: torabora at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (PGIcz)
396
I need a hug. *sniffle*
Posted by: The NJ Fat Man at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (Tyii7)
397
Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 01:57 PM (Ozsfq)
398
#391 Christie for Transportation Secretary...just to stick a finger in their eye!
Posted by: torabora at July 04, 2016 01:57 PM (PGIcz)
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But he brings a lot to the table. (Save the fat/food jokes, morons.) Joni Ernst brings nothing.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:54 PM (uBIoa)
I think he's just politicking around, keeping all of the possible VP candidates on tenter hooks for the time being, and not letting on which one he's seriously considering, so they're all scrambling to support him and thereby keep their chances alive.
Why do I think this? Because it's what I would do.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:54 PM (uBIoa)
I think he's just politicking around, keeping all of the possible VP candidates on tenter hooks for the time being, and not letting on which one he's seriously considering, so they're all scrambling to support him and thereby keep their chances alive.
Why do I think this? Because it's what I would do.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM (oKE6c)
400
The pic of CC embracing Ebola just before the 2012 Election will surely bring in the votes.
That won't hurt Trump at all!
Remember who we're dealing with. The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating, because the media. An image suggesting obama endorses Chistie would bring in a lot of stupid votes.
The pic of CC embracing Ebola just before the 2012 Election will surely bring in the votes.
That won't hurt Trump at all!
Remember who we're dealing with. The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating, because the media. An image suggesting obama endorses Chistie would bring in a lot of stupid votes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM (uBIoa)
401
380 It's the birth of a nation
*****
Well, if the left had their way they would have aborted it in the womb, chopped it up and sold the parts.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:51 PM (NeFrd)
Well played, sir.
*****
Well, if the left had their way they would have aborted it in the womb, chopped it up and sold the parts.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:51 PM (NeFrd)
Well played, sir.
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM (ezHMO)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 01:59 PM (NeFrd)
403
Now I know I'm right! Heh.
Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (uBIoa)
****
Trump can handle the Media just fine by himself. None better. He does not need and would not benefit from an attack puppy like Christie.
Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (uBIoa)
****
Trump can handle the Media just fine by himself. None better. He does not need and would not benefit from an attack puppy like Christie.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 04, 2016 01:59 PM (M2zF+)
404
CC s a gun grabber.
CC supports Amnesty.
It is not the VP candidate's job to act as a press secretary. That is a separate job and it is occupied by someone else.
CC supports Amnesty.
It is not the VP candidate's job to act as a press secretary. That is a separate job and it is occupied by someone else.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 01:59 PM (MQEz6)
405
The second was actually issued to the US Cavalry in the early 19th century (Hall's rifles). Problem is: They don't stay gas-tight for long.
Also, everything had to be hand-fitted in the 18th century and earlier. Virtually every breechloader design you can imagine was tried by around 1500 (inlcuding the screw breech), they just didn't work well with hand-fitted parts that had to shoot corrosive and extremely dirty black powder. Ferguson's was the best of the lot by a long country mile, but was basically a refinement of much earlier systems.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:46 PM (bZ7mE)
Well, you understand that my musings were in the vein of what would I do to build a breechloader, knowing what we know now, and having accurate machine tools.
Also, everything had to be hand-fitted in the 18th century and earlier. Virtually every breechloader design you can imagine was tried by around 1500 (inlcuding the screw breech), they just didn't work well with hand-fitted parts that had to shoot corrosive and extremely dirty black powder. Ferguson's was the best of the lot by a long country mile, but was basically a refinement of much earlier systems.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 04, 2016 01:46 PM (bZ7mE)
Well, you understand that my musings were in the vein of what would I do to build a breechloader, knowing what we know now, and having accurate machine tools.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2016 02:00 PM (GSdpU)
406
400
The pic of CC embracing Ebola just before the 2012 Election will surely bring in the votes.
That won't hurt Trump at all!
Remember who we're dealing with. The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating, because the media. An image suggesting obama endorses Chistie would bring in a lot of stupid votes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM (uBIoa)
Fascinating.
The pic of CC embracing Ebola just before the 2012 Election will surely bring in the votes.
That won't hurt Trump at all!
Remember who we're dealing with. The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating, because the media. An image suggesting obama endorses Chistie would bring in a lot of stupid votes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM (uBIoa)
Fascinating.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 02:00 PM (MQEz6)
407
Well, if the left had their way
...that would be Shays' Rebellion, if it had gone further than it did. See also, France, 1789
...that would be Shays' Rebellion, if it had gone further than it did. See also, France, 1789
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (x4YoJ)
408
Which reminds me: Telling the voters they don't want a 3rd term of obama will not be a persuasive argument in this election. The media has the majority brainwashed obama did a good job, even though the Wrong Track polls say otherwise.
Somehow people don't connect Right Track/Wrong Track with obama, because the media.
Which reminds me: Telling the voters they don't want a 3rd term of obama will not be a persuasive argument in this election. The media has the majority brainwashed obama did a good job, even though the Wrong Track polls say otherwise.
Somehow people don't connect Right Track/Wrong Track with obama, because the media.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (uBIoa)
409
"I have had cops tell me and others right to our faces that they were
letting somebody go (assault and battery) because there would be too
much paperwork."
There's an epidemic of pencil-whipping by police, at the behest of chiefs and city fathers, to make the crime numbers look lower. I've seen repeated instances in San Francisco of cops just refusing to take reports and leaving the scene.
letting somebody go (assault and battery) because there would be too
much paperwork."
There's an epidemic of pencil-whipping by police, at the behest of chiefs and city fathers, to make the crime numbers look lower. I've seen repeated instances in San Francisco of cops just refusing to take reports and leaving the scene.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)
410
I actually think Christie is a decent VP choice, although my choice would probably be Marco.
Christie's Catholicism is appealing to the pro-life crowd , but he is not so off-putting that he would lose independents. (Pence would likely be good for the socially conservative wing, but would lose Trump any chance at independents or left-leaning GOPs.)
I would never, ever vote for Christie as President. I said that 4 years ago, and I say it now. And, I mean it. But...as a supplement to the Trump campaign, I don't hate it.
I think Mia Love is an excellent choice myself, but doing the electorate math, Florida and Ohio, as always will be important.
Christie's Catholicism is appealing to the pro-life crowd , but he is not so off-putting that he would lose independents. (Pence would likely be good for the socially conservative wing, but would lose Trump any chance at independents or left-leaning GOPs.)
I would never, ever vote for Christie as President. I said that 4 years ago, and I say it now. And, I mean it. But...as a supplement to the Trump campaign, I don't hate it.
I think Mia Love is an excellent choice myself, but doing the electorate math, Florida and Ohio, as always will be important.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (F5hTl)
411
and thanks for your kind words, Moki, as ever.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (x4YoJ)
412
A Trump pinata eh? Well, it's considerate for the Kennedy clan to kill a person in effigy instead for realz, for a change.
They are probably hitting the pinata with golf clubs and Oldsmobiles.
They are probably hitting the pinata with golf clubs and Oldsmobiles.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2016 02:02 PM (gyKtp)
413
Trump can handle the Media just fine by himself. None better. He does not need and would not benefit from an attack puppy like Christie.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 04, 2016 01:59 PM (M2zF+)
Yep. This campaign has torn up the book of conventional rules - such as having the VP be the attack dog, and the President staying above the fray, and the candidate(s) spending most of their time raising money and building a large organization.
Will it work? No idea. It's either brilliant or idiotic, and we'll find out in November.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 04, 2016 01:59 PM (M2zF+)
Yep. This campaign has torn up the book of conventional rules - such as having the VP be the attack dog, and the President staying above the fray, and the candidate(s) spending most of their time raising money and building a large organization.
Will it work? No idea. It's either brilliant or idiotic, and we'll find out in November.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 02:02 PM (oKE6c)
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Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston!
The start of the American revolution as it would be reported in 2016...
http://fauquierfreecitizen.com/seventy-two-killed-resisting-gun-confiscation-in-boston/
The start of the American revolution as it would be reported in 2016...
http://fauquierfreecitizen.com/seventy-two-killed-resisting-gun-confiscation-in-boston/
Posted by: mpthompson at July 04, 2016 02:02 PM (I/SRC)
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 02:02 PM (MQEz6)
416
The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating, because the media. An image suggesting obama endorses Chistie would bring in a lot of stupid votes.
****
Well, gee, if they're that dumb why not just photoshop Trump and Obama on stage, hands joined and raised triumphantly over their head. Hell, throw in Mao, and Che...
...and George Clooney...
...and Oprah...
****
Well, gee, if they're that dumb why not just photoshop Trump and Obama on stage, hands joined and raised triumphantly over their head. Hell, throw in Mao, and Che...
...and George Clooney...
...and Oprah...
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 02:03 PM (NeFrd)
417
There's an epidemic of pencil-whipping by police, at the behest of chiefs and city fathers, to make the crime numbers look lower. I've seen repeated instances in San Francisco of cops just refusing to take reports and leaving the scene.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)
"Juking the stats" as they called it in The Wire.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)
"Juking the stats" as they called it in The Wire.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 04, 2016 02:03 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (Tyii7)
419
Texeria hits 2 homers yesterday and they sit him today? Is he that fragile? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (uBIoa)
421
Drudge has a link that now the idiot scientists maybe going for "global cooling".
When can I sue Al Gore?
When can I sue Al Gore?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (ej1L0)
422
Choosing a VP candidate that'll satisfy everyone is probably harder than choosing a nominee that'll satisfy everyone.
Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (XVTvT)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Prez'nit Toonces at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (Tyii7)
425
Christie won't build walls. He'll build bridges. Or block them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:06 PM (uBIoa)
427
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (Ozsfq)
No....Girardi is that bad.
He probably gives BJs to the players on their "rest" days.
No....Girardi is that bad.
He probably gives BJs to the players on their "rest" days.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2016 02:06 PM (Zu3d9)
428
This campaign has torn up the book of conventional rules...
Yep. For better or worse, supporters of a candidate have been driven underground and how this all works out in November could be very surprising. We may gotten a glimpse with the Brexit vote and how it works out to completely alienate and dismiss your opposition as being "racist" and "uneducated".
Yep. For better or worse, supporters of a candidate have been driven underground and how this all works out in November could be very surprising. We may gotten a glimpse with the Brexit vote and how it works out to completely alienate and dismiss your opposition as being "racist" and "uneducated".
Posted by: mpthompson at July 04, 2016 02:06 PM (I/SRC)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:07 PM (uBIoa)
430
or Jim Webbhead?
or Jim Webbhead?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (uBIoa)
431
@415
Yeah, I did.
Because for once in my life, I'm not looking at policy or political stances. I'm not looking at pro-life or same sex marriage or anything like that.
I'm looking at math, pure and simple. I'm looking at demographics and states' electorate votes and percentage points.
So, if they are RINOs, so be it. I want to win.
Yeah, I did.
Because for once in my life, I'm not looking at policy or political stances. I'm not looking at pro-life or same sex marriage or anything like that.
I'm looking at math, pure and simple. I'm looking at demographics and states' electorate votes and percentage points.
So, if they are RINOs, so be it. I want to win.
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (F5hTl)
432
Drudge has a link that now the idiot scientists maybe going for "global cooling".
Well now, since we know how to heat the Earth this shouldn't be a problem then, should it?
Well now, since we know how to heat the Earth this shouldn't be a problem then, should it?
Posted by: mpthompson at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (I/SRC)
433
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (IqV8l)
Well, Christie is my new best friend. He is trying to equalize property taxes and, more importantly, school expenditures across the state.
That will save me a big chunk of change!
Well, Christie is my new best friend. He is trying to equalize property taxes and, more importantly, school expenditures across the state.
That will save me a big chunk of change!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (Zu3d9)
434
My point being that if the electorate is collectively so dumb that a picture of Obama and Christie spooning on the beach is going to make them vote for Trump, they're too dumb to know who that is in the picture with Obama. Hell, if they're that dumb they might think Obama was trying to save a beached whale.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (F5hTl)
436
I think Mia Love is an excellent choice myself
Posted by: TickledPink
A first term Rep, afacted up the ladder, with a 1:1 record in a R-16 district. And only won in 2014 because the Dem incumbent decided not to run for reelection.
She is possibly the worst choice imaginable.
I think Mia Love is an excellent choice myself
Posted by: TickledPink
A first term Rep, afacted up the ladder, with a 1:1 record in a R-16 district. And only won in 2014 because the Dem incumbent decided not to run for reelection.
She is possibly the worst choice imaginable.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (kdS6q)
437
420
Well, gee, if they're that dumb...
They are that dumb.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (uBIoa)
In that case Trump should make a smart pick. He should select someone that brings in GOP people who do not like Trump.
Like Ted Cruz or Jeff Sessions.
This Joni Ernst gal might be a good choice because she is not objectionable to the Crz folks and is not well known.
She can become what the campaign wants her to be.
Picking CC is just plain fucking stupid.
420
Well, gee, if they're that dumb...
They are that dumb.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:04 PM (uBIoa)
In that case Trump should make a smart pick. He should select someone that brings in GOP people who do not like Trump.
Like Ted Cruz or Jeff Sessions.
This Joni Ernst gal might be a good choice because she is not objectionable to the Crz folks and is not well known.
She can become what the campaign wants her to be.
Picking CC is just plain fucking stupid.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 02:09 PM (MQEz6)
438
The Electorate today is a stupid bunch who don't even know who's in
which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating,
because the media.
It's almost as if we've extended the franchise much too far.
Almost.
which party. And obama will be leaving with a very high approval rating,
because the media.
It's almost as if we've extended the franchise much too far.
Almost.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 02:09 PM (oKE6c)
439
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Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 02:09 PM (uBIoa)
440
I think Mia Love is an excellent choice myself
Posted by: TickledPink
A first term Rep, afacted up the ladder, with a 1:1 record in a R-16 district. And only won in 2014 because the Dem incumbent decided not to run for reelection.
She is possibly the worst choice imaginable.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (kdS6q)
I could be wrong but didn't she make an anti-trump statement or is refusing to attend the convention?
Posted by: TickledPink
A first term Rep, afacted up the ladder, with a 1:1 record in a R-16 district. And only won in 2014 because the Dem incumbent decided not to run for reelection.
She is possibly the worst choice imaginable.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 04, 2016 02:08 PM (kdS6q)
I could be wrong but didn't she make an anti-trump statement or is refusing to attend the convention?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 02:10 PM (Ozsfq)
441
Yeesh, on Drudge, someone blowed himself up in al-Madina
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 04, 2016 02:10 PM (x4YoJ)
Posted by: TickledPink at July 04, 2016 02:10 PM (F5hTl)
443
Joni Ernst has displayed some squishiness on amnesty. She's not quite a cornfed Kelly Ayotte, but her bona fides are weak.
And post-Reagan-era Iowa, having gone Democratic in five of the last six elections, is not really a plausible swing state any longer, even with a favorite daughter on the ticket. Plus, it doesn't bring many votes to the table in the electoral college.
And post-Reagan-era Iowa, having gone Democratic in five of the last six elections, is not really a plausible swing state any longer, even with a favorite daughter on the ticket. Plus, it doesn't bring many votes to the table in the electoral college.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:11 PM (noWW6)
444
Trump should campaign with holograms of the Terminator and Ghandi.
*****
"Hey. Why is Donald Trump up on that stage with Rocky Balboa and Yoda?"
/LIVs
*****
"Hey. Why is Donald Trump up on that stage with Rocky Balboa and Yoda?"
/LIVs
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 04, 2016 02:12 PM (NeFrd)
445
443 Joni Ernst has displayed some squishiness on amnesty. She's not quite a cornfed Kelly Ayotte, but her bona fides are weak.
And post-Reagan-era Iowa, having gone Democratic in five of the last six elections, is not really a plausible swing state any longer, even with a favorite daughter on the ticket. Plus, it doesn't bring many votes to the table in the electoral college.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:11 PM (noWW6)
She would have to get on the team and repudiate past remarks and actions.
She is only useful if dhe plays along and can be molded into what the campaign needs.
Whether it is worth the trouble depends on what her gender could bring.
443 Joni Ernst has displayed some squishiness on amnesty. She's not quite a cornfed Kelly Ayotte, but her bona fides are weak.
And post-Reagan-era Iowa, having gone Democratic in five of the last six elections, is not really a plausible swing state any longer, even with a favorite daughter on the ticket. Plus, it doesn't bring many votes to the table in the electoral college.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 04, 2016 02:11 PM (noWW6)
She would have to get on the team and repudiate past remarks and actions.
She is only useful if dhe plays along and can be molded into what the campaign needs.
Whether it is worth the trouble depends on what her gender could bring.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 02:14 PM (MQEz6)
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Trump needs to have someone that will have his back in the trenches. All other considerations are secondary. We all know the media will try to immediately drive a wedge between Trump and his VP pick by trying to immediately make the VP pick disavow everything that he's said over the last 12 months. Trumps VP candidate will need to have balls of steel to tell the media to go f**k off and then kick their asses on the way out.
If Trump picks someone who hesitates in the slightest before the onslaught of the media, the election is over for him.
If Trump picks someone who hesitates in the slightest before the onslaught of the media, the election is over for him.
Posted by: mpthompson at July 04, 2016 02:16 PM (I/SRC)
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If Ernst has an ancestor that was banged by Ben Franklin, that would help.
Posted by: eman at July 04, 2016 02:16 PM (MQEz6)
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"... as well as Rebellion, which is a graphic novel of the Revolutionary war."
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (ezHMO)
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I'm intrigued! Who wrote this?
Posted by: Moki at July 04, 2016 01:56 PM (ezHMO)
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I'm intrigued! Who wrote this?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 04, 2016 02:17 PM (jR7Wy)
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I could be wrong but didn't she make an anti-trump statement or is refusing to attend the convention?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 02:10 PM (Ozsfq)
C'mon. NOBODY is that stupid.
Have people not figured out that being on the fence puts you in the strongest position, with all parties trying to get you on their side? Going all right off the bat means there's no point in kissing your ass, and you can confidently expect to be taken for granted.
Someday the blacks are going to figure that out. Or not.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2016 02:10 PM (Ozsfq)
C'mon. NOBODY is that stupid.
Have people not figured out that being on the fence puts you in the strongest position, with all parties trying to get you on their side? Going all right off the bat means there's no point in kissing your ass, and you can confidently expect to be taken for granted.
Someday the blacks are going to figure that out. Or not.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 02:18 PM (oKE6c)
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I don't think there's really a "perfect" VP pick for Trump. There are plenty of good choices, though. I like Sessions, Hunter, Cotton, and Blackburn, myself. I think it'll be one of those four, because Trump wants a VP who knows Washington politics and that he can trust to forward his agenda.
Sessions, Hunter and Blackburn have all endorsed Trump, and are fully on board with his border security agenda. Cotton has not endorsed Trump, but his lone vote against the not-really-a-treaty treaty with Iran is a big plus in his favor, as is his recent attack on Harry Reid from the Senate floor.
Cotton just might be Trump's best possible choice; he's young and brave, and conservatives really like him, which would help with that "party unity" thing.
Sessions, Hunter and Blackburn have all endorsed Trump, and are fully on board with his border security agenda. Cotton has not endorsed Trump, but his lone vote against the not-really-a-treaty treaty with Iran is a big plus in his favor, as is his recent attack on Harry Reid from the Senate floor.
Cotton just might be Trump's best possible choice; he's young and brave, and conservatives really like him, which would help with that "party unity" thing.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 04, 2016 02:32 PM (0OG8D)
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If Ernst has an ancestor that was banged by Ben Franklin, that would help.
Who doesn't have an ancestor that was banged by Ben Franklin?
Who doesn't have an ancestor that was banged by Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 04, 2016 02:34 PM (T/cxb)
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399----"...they're all scrambling to support him and thereby keep their chances alive."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM
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Sure. Why, it's a veritable stampede to get on the Trump Train!
Look, it's okay for you or anyone else here to believe that Trump is a viable candidate. We don't have to put our money where our mouths are.
But politicians, whose number-one consideration is the prosperity of their own careers, DO have to place bets.
What you think is a marvelous chance to be VP may, to a serious bettor, look like an extremely high chance of being associated with a socially unacceptable, landslide loser.
When you take away the risk-averse and the never-trumpers, the field of choice for Trump is not so big.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 04, 2016 01:58 PM
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Sure. Why, it's a veritable stampede to get on the Trump Train!
Look, it's okay for you or anyone else here to believe that Trump is a viable candidate. We don't have to put our money where our mouths are.
But politicians, whose number-one consideration is the prosperity of their own careers, DO have to place bets.
What you think is a marvelous chance to be VP may, to a serious bettor, look like an extremely high chance of being associated with a socially unacceptable, landslide loser.
When you take away the risk-averse and the never-trumpers, the field of choice for Trump is not so big.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 04, 2016 02:35 PM (T/5A0)
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So far in Chicago this weekend, only 3 killed and 30 wounded.
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See, gun free zones do work!!!!! /snark/
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See, gun free zones do work!!!!! /snark/
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 04, 2016 02:47 PM (xVgrA)
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Drudge has a link that now the idiot scientists maybe going for "global cooling".
When can I sue Al Gore?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (ej1L0)
Thats why they stopped calling "it" global warming and went with "Climate Change". EVERYTHING fits "climate change".
Drudge has a link that now the idiot scientists maybe going for "global cooling".
When can I sue Al Gore?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2016 02:05 PM (ej1L0)
Thats why they stopped calling "it" global warming and went with "Climate Change". EVERYTHING fits "climate change".
Posted by: Mimzey at July 04, 2016 04:19 PM (aRUb8)
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"'Christie is the worst possible VP choice for Trump."'
"Now I know I'm right! Heh. Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough."
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (uBIoa)
1. I don't like him.
2. He's not a Conservative.
3. That's good enough.
"Now I know I'm right! Heh. Tell me why. And reasons such as you don't like him or he's not a conservative aren't good enough."
Posted by: Mister Magoo at July 04, 2016 01:55 PM (uBIoa)
1. I don't like him.
2. He's not a Conservative.
3. That's good enough.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 04, 2016 04:19 PM (ZEzaq)
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