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Trump: I'll Protect You From Foreign Competition
I have to confess: I'm starting to get depressed. Not so much that Trump will lose, but that Hillary will win. I'm not saying this to demoralize anyone or to do the "ha ha told you Trump would lose" thing that so many Mario Fans want to do. Just really starting to wrap my head around the 9th through 12th uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule, this time by the most corrupt female schemer since Olivia Medicci. Open, depressive thread.Comments
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I'll skip this one.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2016 07:57 PM (mBYZv)
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Me too, bed time
Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2016 07:58 PM (mP1y7)
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#nevertrumpers need to STFU.
Posted by: Madamex at June 28, 2016 07:58 PM (BayyF)
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Talk about depressive...Shemp is back on.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 07:58 PM (IqV8l)
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I'm starting to get a bad feeling about all of this as well.
Starting to come to terms with not winning anything - EVER!
Starting to come to terms with not winning anything - EVER!
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:00 PM (Z/FKv)
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I mentioned this today... The polls are hard to ignore.... Was called a rube.... I want to believe the polls are wrong but it's getting harder and harder...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:00 PM (O2RFr)
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Yea, this whole election year is really depressing! It's depressing as hell to have the knowledge that over half the people in this country are idiots who should in no way have a say in things. It's why I haven't really volunteered to work anymore primary's since Massachusetts.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:01 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:01 PM (hNICT)
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It's too early to say what the result is going to be. We haven't even had the conventions yet, and the energy of the race could change dramatically there.
A lot of Republicans (particularly the country club type, who are very status-conscious and care what Democrats think about them) are also demoralized by the constant media assault. This hasn't made them change how they're going to vote, it's just made them reticent to publicly acknowledge it. The same phenomenon lead to about an 8 point swing in the Brexit vote, from -4 to -6 before to +4 after.
TL;DR. Don't panic. Hillary's got uninterrupted media cheerleading boosting her dismal numbers, but her support is pathetic. The more people see the real Trump and the more they see the real Hillary, the more change you'll see in the numbers. Trump is merely sleazy. Hillary is demonic.
A lot of Republicans (particularly the country club type, who are very status-conscious and care what Democrats think about them) are also demoralized by the constant media assault. This hasn't made them change how they're going to vote, it's just made them reticent to publicly acknowledge it. The same phenomenon lead to about an 8 point swing in the Brexit vote, from -4 to -6 before to +4 after.
TL;DR. Don't panic. Hillary's got uninterrupted media cheerleading boosting her dismal numbers, but her support is pathetic. The more people see the real Trump and the more they see the real Hillary, the more change you'll see in the numbers. Trump is merely sleazy. Hillary is demonic.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:01 PM (J+mig)
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Ace, no one knows if Trump can win, the crap on Hillary keeps piling up and all you get is "old news". Of course it's old news and new as well, she's a professional criminal and isn't going to ever change as long as she breaths.
Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2016 08:01 PM (mP1y7)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (JmjOe)
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (McglG)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (O2RFr)
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Well, right up until it happened nobody thought the Brexit vote was going to win so it might be a bit early for despair.
There will be plenty of time for despair if and when it happens. Until then try to recharge. You will probably need all your reserves of mental endurance to survive the Hillary years.
There will be plenty of time for despair if and when it happens. Until then try to recharge. You will probably need all your reserves of mental endurance to survive the Hillary years.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (QHgTq)
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Eyesight back to normal yet?
Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (mP1y7)
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When the going gets tough, the 'tough' get going.
Obama and his evil spawn have everything going for them....except, reality.
Force the issue(s). Relentlessly.
When the going gets tough, the 'tough' get going.
Obama and his evil spawn have everything going for them....except, reality.
Force the issue(s). Relentlessly.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 28, 2016 08:03 PM (iHtNO)
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I'm watching the Gathering Storm on Amazon. As Churchill said: KBO! Keep buggering on!
Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 28, 2016 08:03 PM (7lVbc)
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People will vote for Trump but not talk about it.
People will not vote for Hillary and not talk about it.
This election will be like Fight Club.
People will not vote for Hillary and not talk about it.
This election will be like Fight Club.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:03 PM (hNICT)
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My new a/c is working. So I'm in a pretty good mood.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (6FqZa)
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Trump is going to lose. You can blame this on people who don't vote for him, for obvious reasons. You can also blame this on the fact that he apparently never put an actual campaign together over the past year. So maybe reserve the majority of your ire for the guy who ran for a job and took the spot without actually wanting it.
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (Um/n9)
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I got a peaceful easy feeling,
And I know you won't let me down
'cause I'm already standing on the ground.
And I know you won't let me down
'cause I'm already standing on the ground.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:05 PM (xVgrA)
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Ace yells at cloud about Rubio supporters. He senses them wherever he goes...
Posted by: phadedjaded at June 28, 2016 08:06 PM (J7NdS)
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So... Did you guys see what those gawddammed Lutherans did in Turkey?
Posted by: fixerupper at June 28, 2016 08:06 PM (JmjOe)
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I think the most depressing is the poll today that says Hillary is more trusted against terrorism.... Ambassador Stevens was unavailable for comment...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:06 PM (O2RFr)
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America will gets the leadership it deserves, and got it good and hard with Obama. If Hillary is going to be the third term of Obama, that is when the real fuckin begins.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 08:07 PM (P/kVC)
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People need to relax. It's only June 28th.
Loooong way to go and lots of shit coming our way so brace yourself, get the word out and keep going.
Hillary for Prison 2016!
Loooong way to go and lots of shit coming our way so brace yourself, get the word out and keep going.
Hillary for Prison 2016!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (ej1L0)
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I have a feeling a lot of Trump voters are going to be like my parents were in 1980. They once told me the story, for how they became Republicans. The conversation went something like this:
Dad: "Honey, I've got a confession to make... I voted Reagan."
Mom: "Oh, that's it? Good. Me too."
They hadn't even told each other for fear of being criticized, and they never looked back after that.
Dad: "Honey, I've got a confession to make... I voted Reagan."
Mom: "Oh, that's it? Good. Me too."
They hadn't even told each other for fear of being criticized, and they never looked back after that.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (J+mig)
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19 My new a/c is working. So I'm in a pretty good mood.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (6FqZa
Having lived there 6 years I'm happy for you. There are a few months where it is necessary.
I used to buy a big window unit or two from Lowes or Home Depot, and take them back before the 90 day return policy. So free AC!
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (6FqZa
Having lived there 6 years I'm happy for you. There are a few months where it is necessary.
I used to buy a big window unit or two from Lowes or Home Depot, and take them back before the 90 day return policy. So free AC!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (hNICT)
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I dunno. The MSM and the Left's modus operandi is and always has been to demoralize the opposition by making a huge stink about themselves. I mean, say what you want about them, but the Left really is good at tactics and organization.
To lots of people in lots of places, any statement that could be construed as supporting Trump is socially toxic. So I'm hoping that a lot of regular people are going to say one thing and do another in the voting box (cf. Brexit polls).
To lots of people in lots of places, any statement that could be construed as supporting Trump is socially toxic. So I'm hoping that a lot of regular people are going to say one thing and do another in the voting box (cf. Brexit polls).
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (L54EB)
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#9--Hey, vote for the sleaze over the demon. Catchy.
Well, it is a place to start.
And God knows, this game is not finished....discouraging at this point but a lot off game to go .
And we have fighter. A genuinely sleazy fighter but a fighter nonetheless.
Let time we had the all-time pussy and sheep in sheep's clothing...and we still would have won if the evangelicals could have overlooked the magic Mormon underwear.....
Well, it is a place to start.
And God knows, this game is not finished....discouraging at this point but a lot off game to go .
And we have fighter. A genuinely sleazy fighter but a fighter nonetheless.
Let time we had the all-time pussy and sheep in sheep's clothing...and we still would have won if the evangelicals could have overlooked the magic Mormon underwear.....
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (iHtNO)
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Trump seems to sense that globalism is aimed at undermining America. That puts him ahead of most of even in our own party.
Trump talks big but the policy will be by his vp and handlers. To Put t kindly trump not a details guy. Obama esque that way. We get a Jarrett in there.
The left may still assassinate trump before he even takes office.
These thoughts are among the reasons I'm not losing sleep over trump winning.
Trump talks big but the policy will be by his vp and handlers. To Put t kindly trump not a details guy. Obama esque that way. We get a Jarrett in there.
The left may still assassinate trump before he even takes office.
These thoughts are among the reasons I'm not losing sleep over trump winning.
Posted by: Shiggz at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (G7wcY)
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"... the most corrupt female schemer since Olivia Medicci..."
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think Hillary's more of a Lucrezia Borgia.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think Hillary's more of a Lucrezia Borgia.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at June 28, 2016 08:08 PM (iIzG7)
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Blue whales are in danger, and I'm pretty sure that it is Trump's fault. Even though he runs nothing in the government. It's his fault. Whales are big by the way.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 28, 2016 08:09 PM (6Ll1u)
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Is this the part of the movie where one of the main characters says to no one in particular, "I got a bad feeling about this"?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2016 08:09 PM (JO9+V)
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He's just ramping up. New Comms director, Corey gone, focused policy speeches. The learning curve is part of the deal with a citizen candidate. He's a fast learner.
Posted by: Steven at June 28, 2016 08:10 PM (Cvsgc)
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Hillary will let "Syrians "in faster than Barak has. And as sure she God has made little green apples once their here they will cause havoc.
Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2016 08:10 PM (mP1y7)
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So... Did you guys see what those gawddammed Lutherans did in Turkey?
Posted by: fixerupper at June 28, 2016 08:06 PM (JmjOe)
Hillery built that.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 28, 2016 08:06 PM (JmjOe)
Hillery built that.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 08:10 PM (P/kVC)
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I know we always say if the idiots vote for Hillary! they deserve her.... I,however, don't deserve her...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:10 PM (O2RFr)
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So... Did you guys see what those gawddammed Lutherans did in Turkey?
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Mentioned in the last thread I know someone that was going to visit family there next month and she was worried about terrorism with the 4 million refugees in turkey. Most who aren't Syrian. She is Turkish and if she is muslim she is very secular. No head gear, wears bathing suit in public, eats during the day during ramendan, etc. I don't really know but I feel like she isn't.
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Mentioned in the last thread I know someone that was going to visit family there next month and she was worried about terrorism with the 4 million refugees in turkey. Most who aren't Syrian. She is Turkish and if she is muslim she is very secular. No head gear, wears bathing suit in public, eats during the day during ramendan, etc. I don't really know but I feel like she isn't.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:10 PM (xVgrA)
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@20
At times I vacillate between a shrug and total despair.
The history of man and America is full of triumph, disaster and change.
We often think of ourselves on the brink of great calamity and disaster but if these are the worst of times what do we call times past?
The start of the civil war, the revolution, the first winter in the new world, etc.
Are these truly the worst of times??
At times I vacillate between a shrug and total despair.
The history of man and America is full of triumph, disaster and change.
We often think of ourselves on the brink of great calamity and disaster but if these are the worst of times what do we call times past?
The start of the civil war, the revolution, the first winter in the new world, etc.
Are these truly the worst of times??
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (Z/FKv)
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Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
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I find myself wondering whether this election's October Surprise is going to be that both Hillary and the Donald will discover that they are actually Targaryen offspring.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (iIzG7)
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Ok it is past bed time I get up before 4am.
Good night horde
Good night horde
Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2016 08:12 PM (mP1y7)
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I'm not saying this to demoralize anyone or to do the "ha ha told you Trump would lose" thing that so many Mario Fans want to do.
Ya, f**k that guy...
Ya, f**k that guy...
Posted by: Luigi at June 28, 2016 08:12 PM (vBeA5)
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Same here, Ace. Same here.
I had to force myself to vote in the CO primary for the R that will go up against Micheal Bennett in I barely wanted to. I'm not even sure I voted for the right person.
I had to force myself to vote in the CO primary for the R that will go up against Micheal Bennett in I barely wanted to. I'm not even sure I voted for the right person.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:12 PM (6IPEM)
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Hillary isn't fit to kiss Lucrezia Borgia's shoe.
Posted by: @votermom's phone at June 28, 2016 08:12 PM (7lVbc)
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Ha thougt you ditched us on te last tread huh? You haven't hearsed the last of us!!
Posted by: The Assorted Associated Interns Union at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (BO/km)
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I've been pretty depressed to because, honestly, I don't see a way out. I'm basically deciding to unplug from the world and focus on my family exclusively.
My kids are currently LARPing Pokemon, so at least that option is entertaining.
My kids are currently LARPing Pokemon, so at least that option is entertaining.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (Dxa+Y)
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Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk.
Mushrooms, man. Gotta be the shrooms.
Mushrooms, man. Gotta be the shrooms.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (6FqZa)
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (ktzHq)
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Hillary isn't fit to kiss Lucrezia Borgia's shoe.
But it's Her turn! Historic, hysteric or something!
But it's Her turn! Historic, hysteric or something!
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (O2RFr)
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In case it wasn't clear, most of us who are #NeverTrump aren't happy, either. We've just considered the election lost for longer than you have.
Posted by: Original Roy at June 28, 2016 08:14 PM (fASYn)
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"Hillary isn't fit to kiss Lucrezia Borgia's shoe."
I was thinking along the lines of the alleged hollow ring full of poison, and people around her dying under mysterious circumstances.
I was thinking along the lines of the alleged hollow ring full of poison, and people around her dying under mysterious circumstances.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at June 28, 2016 08:14 PM (iIzG7)
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#nevertrumpers need to STFU.
Posted by: Madamex at June 28, 2016 07:58 PM (BayyF)
Ignorance is bliss?
Posted by: Madamex at June 28, 2016 07:58 PM (BayyF)
Ignorance is bliss?
Posted by: Luigi at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (vBeA5)
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The more people will see and hear Hillary talk with the forced visibility in the future, the more votes and voters she will lose.
Somebody asked and doubted if there were any pictures of her holding a baby.
Somebody asked and doubted if there were any pictures of her holding a baby.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (hNICT)
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L, Elle *fistbump*
I went for Darryl Glenn. Basically because his speech was good at the assembly (although I voted for Peg Littleton there). In a Senator giving good speech is not a bad skill.
But I'd vote for a plague-infected prairie dog over Bennet.
I went for Darryl Glenn. Basically because his speech was good at the assembly (although I voted for Peg Littleton there). In a Senator giving good speech is not a bad skill.
But I'd vote for a plague-infected prairie dog over Bennet.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (O2RFr)
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Mushrooms, man. Gotta be the shrooms.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (6FqZa)
Word...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 08:13 PM (6FqZa)
Word...
Posted by: Luigi at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (vBeA5)
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Ah Ace don't get depressed. Hey why not come on vacation with me...I just got a great deal on package to Ankara Turkey
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:16 PM (zp+j1)
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Honestly, who could have foreseen that Hillary Clinton would be the Democrat nominee?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 28, 2016 08:16 PM (ktzHq)
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>>Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Nope, sober as Hillary at a congressional hearing. It's just this bow tie that cuts off the oxygen to my brain.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Nope, sober as Hillary at a congressional hearing. It's just this bow tie that cuts off the oxygen to my brain.
Posted by: George Will at June 28, 2016 08:17 PM (c7vUv)
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I haven't given up! I'm going all the way to Cleveland. Vote yer conscience people!
Posted by: Bucket of Dog Vomit 2016! at June 28, 2016 08:17 PM (kTF2Z)
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Trump did say the economy does better under Democrat administrations so chin up!
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:17 PM (MNgU2)
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the only thing trump needs to do to get his numbers up is to play hillary's speech - any one , they are all the same anyway, over and over and over and over again. people will, not just walk , run away from that woman.
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2016 08:18 PM (c6/9Q)
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At times I vacillate between a shrug and total despair.
The history of man and America is full of triumph, disaster and change.
We
often think of ourselves on the brink of great calamity and disaster
but if these are the worst of times what do we call times past?
The start of the civil war, the revolution, the first winter in the new world, etc.
Are these truly the worst of times??
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (Z/FKv)
If worst comes to worst, we'll just have to learn how to do the Secret Society thing again.
The history of man and America is full of triumph, disaster and change.
We
often think of ourselves on the brink of great calamity and disaster
but if these are the worst of times what do we call times past?
The start of the civil war, the revolution, the first winter in the new world, etc.
Are these truly the worst of times??
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (Z/FKv)
If worst comes to worst, we'll just have to learn how to do the Secret Society thing again.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:18 PM (J+mig)
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Hey Boulder,
I voted for Glenn too.
*relieved*
I wanted to vote for Keyser bc he has a blue Great Dane but that would be throwing my vote away I was told. I think Glenn was endorsed by Cruz.
I voted for Glenn too.
*relieved*
I wanted to vote for Keyser bc he has a blue Great Dane but that would be throwing my vote away I was told. I think Glenn was endorsed by Cruz.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:18 PM (6IPEM)
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It is depressing. It's not over yet though. There is still room to lower my expectations.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:18 PM (BO/km)
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Trump is starting to sound like a crappy old retread of Bill O'Reilly
Good lord, that's not what the country needs right now.
Good lord, that's not what the country needs right now.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 08:19 PM (mHKcx)
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>>Somebody asked and doubted if there were any pictures of her holding a baby.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
Yes. Unfortunately, she is eating it like corn on the cob.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
Yes. Unfortunately, she is eating it like corn on the cob.
Posted by: Aviator at June 28, 2016 08:19 PM (c7vUv)
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The "Fired from my internship" piece in the sidebar is hilarious....but I was disappointed that in the comments (well over 100) no one made the obvious connection between this childish behavior and the special snowflake mentality propagated and encouraged by the collegiate society.
Three cheers for the one single intern who refused to sign the petition....he's got middle management written all over him...if he can master his TPS reports.
Three cheers for the one single intern who refused to sign the petition....he's got middle management written all over him...if he can master his TPS reports.
Posted by: Orson at June 28, 2016 08:19 PM (Y5Ygq)
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Tthe fact that so many principled conservatives refuse to abandon principle to support Trump shows that republicans have principles, whereas the entire democrat party is willing to not only ignore Hillary's myriad disqualifying attributes, but to actively lie for her. They are scum (including the entire media who fail to hold her accountable).
Posted by: IanDeal at June 28, 2016 08:20 PM (teGBX)
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And no it's not the worst of times. People are pussies nowadays.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:20 PM (BO/km)
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Nobody wants to kiss the shoes she buys us.
Posted by: Hillary!s feet at June 28, 2016 08:21 PM (HgMAr)
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Well, the Republican party had its swan song with Reagan and it was all downhill from there. It simply couldn't compete with the party that promises everything and sh*t the bed from 2001-2007.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 28, 2016 08:21 PM (dZ756)
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Dave, you're a twat. Go shit in your hat.
Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at June 28, 2016 08:22 PM (G2Sc9)
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"Nobody wants to kiss the shoes she buys us. Posted by: Hillary!s feet"
Does she have feet? I've always assumed it was cloven hooves below those cankles.
Does she have feet? I've always assumed it was cloven hooves below those cankles.
Posted by: Qoheleth DIXIT at June 28, 2016 08:22 PM (iIzG7)
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"And no it's not the worst of times. People are pussies nowadays."
Words of wisdom, Lloyd, words of wisdom.
Words of wisdom, Lloyd, words of wisdom.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 28, 2016 08:22 PM (ktzHq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:22 PM (IqV8l)
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Lather. Rinse. Repeat as needed.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 28, 2016 08:22 PM (bICLx)
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Now is not the time for fear, Ace. That comes later.
Posted by: Bane at June 28, 2016 08:23 PM (rwI+c)
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It's early in the election, though it doesn't feel that way. I won't panic until October, if the polls still feel this.
There are a LOT of frustrated people, R and D, who don't want Hillary. I suspect we'll be hearing from them.
Seriously, I still fully expect this to be a Trump win nationwide. I'd have preferred a Cruz but that's not what a majority of voters asked for.
There are a LOT of frustrated people, R and D, who don't want Hillary. I suspect we'll be hearing from them.
Seriously, I still fully expect this to be a Trump win nationwide. I'd have preferred a Cruz but that's not what a majority of voters asked for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 28, 2016 08:23 PM (hR1Jj)
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When the fool voters think Hillary! is better when it comes to Terrorism we are totally screwed...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 08:23 PM (O2RFr)
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And Brexit had no chance!
Posted by: Tyler Mason at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (UCZHF)
85
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Tthe fact that so many principled conservatives refuse to abandon
principle to support Trump shows that republicans have principles,
whereas the entire democrat party is willing to not only ignore
Hillary's myriad disqualifying attributes, but to actively lie for her.
They are scum (including the entire media who fail to hold her
accountable).
Posted by: IanDeal at June 28, 2016 08:20 PM (teGBX)
I've developed a new conservative principle. It's simple in its elegance.
In order to fix any of the thousand other problems we have, you have to win.
Losers don't get to set policy. That may mean making some sacrifices. That may mean doing some repugnant things. But look at what's at stake. We're not going to win with the Mr. Clean strategy. We have a choice now. Get a little bit dirty, or take a dirtnap. Because if we lose this one, the Republic is gone.
Tthe fact that so many principled conservatives refuse to abandon
principle to support Trump shows that republicans have principles,
whereas the entire democrat party is willing to not only ignore
Hillary's myriad disqualifying attributes, but to actively lie for her.
They are scum (including the entire media who fail to hold her
accountable).
Posted by: IanDeal at June 28, 2016 08:20 PM (teGBX)
I've developed a new conservative principle. It's simple in its elegance.
In order to fix any of the thousand other problems we have, you have to win.
Losers don't get to set policy. That may mean making some sacrifices. That may mean doing some repugnant things. But look at what's at stake. We're not going to win with the Mr. Clean strategy. We have a choice now. Get a little bit dirty, or take a dirtnap. Because if we lose this one, the Republic is gone.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (J+mig)
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Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk
Oh, that's just nonsense on stilts. She'll be able to ram all sorts of shit through, unopposed judicial appointments, executive orders, etc. George Fwill needs to go soak his head.
Oh, that's just nonsense on stilts. She'll be able to ram all sorts of shit through, unopposed judicial appointments, executive orders, etc. George Fwill needs to go soak his head.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (mHKcx)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (kdS6q)
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Elizabeth Gilbert (an otherwise flaming lefty author) has a great philosophy of "stubborn gladness." A sort of boot strapped positivity that doesn't live in denial of the hardships of life.
A great outlook for the tough times ahead. I hope Trump wins, but I am going to be just fine if he doesn't. Remember how fucking SHORT life is! There's no time to mope and there is no crying in baseball!
A great outlook for the tough times ahead. I hope Trump wins, but I am going to be just fine if he doesn't. Remember how fucking SHORT life is! There's no time to mope and there is no crying in baseball!
Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (q177U)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (qUNWi)
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12 years of democratic rule?
Welcome to California! Except the rest of the country has bad weather and more fat people.
Welcome to California! Except the rest of the country has bad weather and more fat people.
Posted by: wooga at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (P4idG)
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Well, the Republican party had its swan song with Reagan and it was all downhill from there. It simply couldn't compete with the party that promises everything and sh*t the bed from 2001-2007.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 28, 2016 08:21 PM (dZ756)
Just turn one or two of O'Connor, Souter, Kennedy, or Roberts into a reliable conservative and imagine how different it would have been.
The Republican Party's stated goals were totally doable. We f'ked up again and again and again.
And I'm including each of the voters, their representatives and our leaders in that.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 28, 2016 08:21 PM (dZ756)
Just turn one or two of O'Connor, Souter, Kennedy, or Roberts into a reliable conservative and imagine how different it would have been.
The Republican Party's stated goals were totally doable. We f'ked up again and again and again.
And I'm including each of the voters, their representatives and our leaders in that.
Posted by: AD at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (XHWYb)
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It's
It's
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (rvCve)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (zp+j1)
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Yup, still June.
Yup, still June.
Posted by: Steven at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (Cvsgc)
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BTH, L, Elle, my husband and I voted Glenn as well. He was endorsed by Cruz.
Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (xVuS6)
Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (q177U)
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It's still not too late.
Posted by: John Kasich at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (ktzHq)
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Welcome to California! Except the rest of the country has bad weather and more fat people.
Posted by: wooga at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (P4idG)
fuck! Are we going to tip over?
Posted by: wooga at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (P4idG)
fuck! Are we going to tip over?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (zp+j1)
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I said in April that Trump could win this thing as long as he doesn't step on his dick. Looks he has chosen to go Gregory Hines on it.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (qUNWi)
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I think DT might win too and don't get the negativity. There is no point in brooding over it though. What will be will be.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (BO/km)
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It's still not too late.
Posted by: John Kasich at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (ktzHq)
Good! So when will you be back with your Shine Box?
Posted by: John Kasich at June 28, 2016 08:26 PM (ktzHq)
Good! So when will you be back with your Shine Box?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (IqV8l)
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Trump wasn't proposing protectionism, he was saying he'd stop allowing the working/middle class Americans from being screwed by these lousy agreements.
Trump wasn't proposing protectionism, he was saying he'd stop allowing the working/middle class Americans from being screwed by these lousy agreements.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (rvCve)
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I've been watching Apocalypto as sort of a pick me up.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (TnUKj)
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Bingle it.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (qUNWi)
You are a genius. We could create our own search engine. Bingle! Use the search engine that mocks the other two and takes their lunch money! With 50% less spying!
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:25 PM (qUNWi)
You are a genius. We could create our own search engine. Bingle! Use the search engine that mocks the other two and takes their lunch money! With 50% less spying!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (J+mig)
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Posted by: Gary Johnson - Trippin' Balls
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (kdS6q)
Oh, you mean Gary 'Bloody Stupid' Johnson? The man whose campaign slogan is: "Gary Johnson: Why would you vote for a half-baked candidate when you could vote for one who's completely baked?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (kdS6q)
Oh, you mean Gary 'Bloody Stupid' Johnson? The man whose campaign slogan is: "Gary Johnson: Why would you vote for a half-baked candidate when you could vote for one who's completely baked?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM (mHKcx)
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Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June
I typically like George will, he has lived in dc with his mistress for too long to see the forest of authoritarians.
This statement tells me dc republicans lack major self awareness. 2. They beleive the conventional dc leftist groupthink. That statement would elicit scoffs here but a dc leftist would nod
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June
I typically like George will, he has lived in dc with his mistress for too long to see the forest of authoritarians.
This statement tells me dc republicans lack major self awareness. 2. They beleive the conventional dc leftist groupthink. That statement would elicit scoffs here but a dc leftist would nod
Posted by: Shiggz at June 28, 2016 08:28 PM (G7wcY)
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Is it wrong I hope that Hillary's cough is serious? I mean, really, really serious?
I refuse to denounce myself. For the country.
I refuse to denounce myself. For the country.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:28 PM (1ZOkK)
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Everyone, even Michael Medved, said Trump made a good speech....except allahpundit.
This fucking guy.
Everyone, even Michael Medved, said Trump made a good speech....except allahpundit.
This fucking guy.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:28 PM (rvCve)
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Glad to hear from you, Emmie. Now I know I voted for the right guy.
4 votes for Glenn so far. Woo Hoo!
4 votes for Glenn so far. Woo Hoo!
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:28 PM (6IPEM)
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A country that votes in Hillary Clinton as president is a country that deserves her.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:29 PM (zBwYh)
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It's
Posted by: Mister Magoo
I usually just type ITS', and let the reader rearrange the characters to punctuate as they see fit.
Kinda like a salad bar.
It's
Posted by: Mister Magoo
I usually just type ITS', and let the reader rearrange the characters to punctuate as they see fit.
Kinda like a salad bar.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 08:29 PM (kdS6q)
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Gary "I'm Baked" Johnson's running mate is totes down with Hillary. Thinks she was an awesome SoS and is just a swell human being.
FWIW.
FWIW.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:29 PM (1ZOkK)
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Cato -- if I created a search engine I would call it Grinchy.
The y at the end for those pesky copyright dealies.
The y at the end for those pesky copyright dealies.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:30 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:30 PM (rvCve)
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I said in April that Trump could win this thing as long as he doesn't step on his dick.
Who could have guessed Trump would step on his dick?
Who could have guessed Trump would step on his dick?
Posted by: AD at June 28, 2016 08:30 PM (XHWYb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:30 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: that poor old guy at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (BO/km)
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So the White House has called this attack terrorism, but they are still unsure for the motivation of the Orlando attack?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (qUNWi)
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...he's got middle management written all over him...if he can master his TPS reports.
Posted by: Orson
Screw that, front office, all the way. Dress right, probably plays golf, understands how not to make waves, you're looking at a VP.
Posted by: Orson
Screw that, front office, all the way. Dress right, probably plays golf, understands how not to make waves, you're looking at a VP.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (Doh4+)
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They toss out a poll with Hilary getting a silly turnout number and we've got people sulking off to the hills.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:32 PM (Doh4+)
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I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Not because I think Trump is going to get better, but because I do think there is at least a 50/50 chance Hillary keeps doing worse.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 08:32 PM (/tuJf)
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Shep in all his glory
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:32 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Joe Mama at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (TMgNe)
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Where the Red Fern grows is high comedy these days.
I don't know what Trump would do although I am pretty sure he is not conservative.
I do know damn well what hillary will do. She is a true believer in Ultra Leftism. Obama is too, but I don't think he even knows why, doesn't strike me as much of a thinker.
Where the Red Fern grows is high comedy these days.
I don't know what Trump would do although I am pretty sure he is not conservative.
I do know damn well what hillary will do. She is a true believer in Ultra Leftism. Obama is too, but I don't think he even knows why, doesn't strike me as much of a thinker.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (ODxAs)
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The problem is that with the Progressive mentality you will be made to conform to everything. No hiding. Fucking unreal.
Posted by: MTF at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (/m8T6)
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Why is endorsing Trump socially toxic? Because you allow it to be. Why is voting for a habitual criminal currently under investigation by the FBI for compromising National Security considered socially hip? Because you allow it to be.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (zBwYh)
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The first and most important conservative principle is: Win.
If you don't win, all of the rest of your principles will get trod underfoot by the victors. They're not going to respect your personal space just because you were a nice guy. It's not in them. There is no honor in losing to a dishonorable enemy. Our enemy is the farthest thing from honorable that has ever existed.
If you don't win, all of the rest of your principles will get trod underfoot by the victors. They're not going to respect your personal space just because you were a nice guy. It's not in them. There is no honor in losing to a dishonorable enemy. Our enemy is the farthest thing from honorable that has ever existed.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (J+mig)
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What did Trump do to his dick?
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (Doh4+)
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The Repubs think like defense attorneys. Always polite, always reacting, never attacking. Dems think, because most were or are, trial attorneys. Lie, cheat, kill a witness or two, there are no rules so make shit up as long as you attack your opponent and worry about the consequences later, if there are any. Look at Trey Dumbass today. So polite, so polished, so lame. He should have attacked Hillary first, last and in the middle of his report even if he had to "stretch" the truth.
His goal should have been to destroy Hillary as no one cares about the "truth" anymore. Trump I think gets this.....attack, attack, attack. That's why he has a puncher's chance.
His goal should have been to destroy Hillary as no one cares about the "truth" anymore. Trump I think gets this.....attack, attack, attack. That's why he has a puncher's chance.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (ej1L0)
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They toss out a poll with Hilary getting a silly turnout number and we've got people sulking off to the hills.
Ace is a Massive Depressive.
Or Manic Degenerate. One of those.
Ace is a Massive Depressive.
Or Manic Degenerate. One of those.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (qUNWi)
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Went to a nice gathering with friends at a nice place on the water tonight.
After pleasantries, all we could talk about was how much each and every one of us (a large group from a service organization) hate Obama and Hillary! with the heat of a million suns.
So depressing. Beautiful evening, wonderful friends, great food....and we're all sick with worry for the country.
After pleasantries, all we could talk about was how much each and every one of us (a large group from a service organization) hate Obama and Hillary! with the heat of a million suns.
So depressing. Beautiful evening, wonderful friends, great food....and we're all sick with worry for the country.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (1ZOkK)
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The Republican party produced Trump. Now 1/2 of the party hate him.
Why would I ever want my name attached to the R. party again.
I am very close to an end justify the means belief system.
No manners, No following the law (Hillary), no class, no following the rules, crimialism at the highest level, etc., etc., etc. = A win = Victory
Again, why should I obey the law?
Why would I ever want my name attached to the R. party again.
I am very close to an end justify the means belief system.
No manners, No following the law (Hillary), no class, no following the rules, crimialism at the highest level, etc., etc., etc. = A win = Victory
Again, why should I obey the law?
Posted by: danny at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (GQaZZ)
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It's not even the conventions yet!! And still with four months to ramp up attacks which I think he is doing quite well now. Using the Teleprompter effectively and putting out more detailed policy (like it or not). And the way I see it, given all the relentless media attacks and by GOP guys he is still within margin of errors in the swing states. And really in some blue states too. So not all is so bleak.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (KTFfX)
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What did Trump do to his dick?
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (Doh4+)
It's 24 karate gold plated...or so i am told...cough cough
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (Doh4+)
It's 24 karate gold plated...or so i am told...cough cough
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (zp+j1)
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Watching the fourth episode of Animal Kingdom tonight. No redeeming characters but the story line is captivating. It's an updated Ma Barker and Sons. And Ellen Barkin don't look too bad for 63.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (MNgU2)
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I'm surprised the White House called the Turkish attack terrorism. I mean, it could be work place violence by the Mennonite in turkey. Who knows what the real motive could be. Maybe their bags got lost or they missed their flight because of security. I can't put my finger on it...hmmmm
//snark//
//snark//
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (xVgrA)
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Trump is blowing it bad. Is that part of the "Art" of this particular deal?..a sort of "The economy does better under Democrats....it just does." kinda thing?
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (aRUb8)
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Too early for despair. At least too early for me to do so. I have no idea what's going to happen by November with Hillary (God knows!) or with me either for that matter (God knows!). So meanwhile i will take periodic breaks from news and stuff here and enjoy the blessings I have each day. This will probably be meaningless to anyone who isn't Eastern Orthodox or interested in that tradition, but today was the celebration of the lives of St Peter and Paul. I attended the liturgy. I can't take Holy Communion because I'm not Orthodox but they have a basket of unconsecrated bread in basket and a kind woman in the congregation gave me a piece of bread to eat. I thought that was lovely. it was a nice liturgy and the priest gave a beautiful message about Peter (who denied Jesus three times) and Paul who persecuted the church yet both were forgiven by God and told to spread the Gospel to the Gentiles. The priest showed an icon of Peter and Paul kissing. They didn't always agree on things but they were united in their love of Christ and the church and so they could embrace each other. and forgive because they were forgiven.
The Orthodox really have an appreciation for the awesomeness and majesty of God which is lacking in some of Protestant churches., I think Yes, what a friend we have in Jesus!. (I like that hymn too) but a times like this in the world it's good to remember know he's not only my friend but-more importantly the Lord. It gives me the proper perspective on things , The Lord's plan will come to fruition.
And after the service I walked out the back door (The church is surrounded by woods) and there was a fawn nearby still with its spots and a bunch of beautiful cornflowers. The fawn and I looked at each other for a long time, I am grateful for God's creativity and artistry in nature . I am grateful that I have a home and food and people in my life to love and be loved by, and things to do in the church and the gift of the ability to see and hear and think and speak and many other things besides..
The Orthodox really have an appreciation for the awesomeness and majesty of God which is lacking in some of Protestant churches., I think Yes, what a friend we have in Jesus!. (I like that hymn too) but a times like this in the world it's good to remember know he's not only my friend but-more importantly the Lord. It gives me the proper perspective on things , The Lord's plan will come to fruition.
And after the service I walked out the back door (The church is surrounded by woods) and there was a fawn nearby still with its spots and a bunch of beautiful cornflowers. The fawn and I looked at each other for a long time, I am grateful for God's creativity and artistry in nature . I am grateful that I have a home and food and people in my life to love and be loved by, and things to do in the church and the gift of the ability to see and hear and think and speak and many other things besides..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (frf5f)
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Never Trumpers aren't responsible for this train wreck of a candidacy. He's done it all by himself.
I really, really, really hope he starts taking off. Trump is close enough to still win this thing, but time is short. Show some fucking urgency Trump.
I really, really, really hope he starts taking off. Trump is close enough to still win this thing, but time is short. Show some fucking urgency Trump.
Posted by: MTF at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (/m8T6)
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I feel the same way, Ace. I intend to let go and let God, and spend the IRA on good wines.
Posted by: PJ at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (cHuNI)
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Well half of the party hated Romney too.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (Doh4+)
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I like your attitude Jackstraw. It could happen. I'll let that be my little popcorn kernel of hope.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (BO/km)
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126 I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Not because I think Trump is going to get better, but because I do think there is at least a 50/50 chance Hillary keeps doing worse.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 08:32 PM (/tuJf)
Right, here's the thing: the more people see and hear Hillary!, the lower her polling goes. So her handlers are going go have to figure out some way to run a stealth campaign. No one wants to hear that shrill, shrieky voice.
That's our only hope.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 08:32 PM (/tuJf)
Right, here's the thing: the more people see and hear Hillary!, the lower her polling goes. So her handlers are going go have to figure out some way to run a stealth campaign. No one wants to hear that shrill, shrieky voice.
That's our only hope.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (mHKcx)
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Why is endorsing Trump socially toxic? Because you allow it to be. Why is voting for a habitual criminal currently under investigation by the FBI for compromising National Security considered socially hip? Because you allow it to be.
Not me. I point and laugh at anyone who admits to Hillary.
Not me. I point and laugh at anyone who admits to Hillary.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (IqV8l)
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Again, why should I obey the law?
Posted by: danny at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (GQaZZ)
Listen I got a hunch you may need a good lawyer soon. Unfortunately they don't really exist.
Posted by: danny at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (GQaZZ)
Listen I got a hunch you may need a good lawyer soon. Unfortunately they don't really exist.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (zp+j1)
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142
Trump is blowing it bad. Is that part of the "Art" of this particular
deal?..a sort of "The economy does better under Democrats....it just
does." kinda thing?
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (aRUb
The economy does do better under Democrats. We fix their mess. They break it. We fix it again. They break it again. They always enjoy the fruits of our efforts, and we always suffer the fruits of theirs.
Trump is blowing it bad. Is that part of the "Art" of this particular
deal?..a sort of "The economy does better under Democrats....it just
does." kinda thing?
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:34 PM (aRUb
The economy does do better under Democrats. We fix their mess. They break it. We fix it again. They break it again. They always enjoy the fruits of our efforts, and we always suffer the fruits of theirs.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:36 PM (J+mig)
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Not me. I point and laugh at anyone who admits to Hillary.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
Me I piss on them...but hey that's just me and anyway I drink a lot of coffee
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
Me I piss on them...but hey that's just me and anyway I drink a lot of coffee
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (zp+j1)
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On the upside, the Nigel Farage speech in Brussels was pretty kick ass.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Billionaire George Lucas at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (EqWBv)
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Not me. I point and laugh at anyone who admits to Hillary.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
Same here. I usually go. "Heh, good one. What? Seriously? Why, dude, why?"
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (qUNWi)
Same here. I usually go. "Heh, good one. What? Seriously? Why, dude, why?"
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (J+mig)
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I just bingled (I like that) "best place for a first date."
You wouldn't believe how stupid the "lists" are.
For example: one foolish woman internet writer suggests you take your date to Target and play hide & seek, or stay home and watch cartoons.
But most of the other suggestions are the typical: bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson, cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
I just bingled (I like that) "best place for a first date."
You wouldn't believe how stupid the "lists" are.
For example: one foolish woman internet writer suggests you take your date to Target and play hide & seek, or stay home and watch cartoons.
But most of the other suggestions are the typical: bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson, cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (rvCve)
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My Lord, this Shep-aganza is horrible beyond belief. Guys with steadicams chasing him around...to reiterate what we already know.
O'Reilly will do anything for a day off.
O'Reilly will do anything for a day off.
Posted by: PJ at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (cHuNI)
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If you don't want to watch Shep, shark week is on.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (kTF2Z)
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Hey, economic growth in the 1st quarter was revised upward from 0.8% to 1.1%. If we can get Hillary in the WH for Barky's 3rd term, happy days are here again.
Posted by: Hank at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (/vqyz)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (qUNWi)
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Nevergiveup....
Try asparagus.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (qUNWi)
LOL
I'll keep that in mind
Try asparagus.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (qUNWi)
LOL
I'll keep that in mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:38 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:38 PM (1ZOkK)
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Fox Business is Shempless.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (IqV8l)
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L'elle, that was awesome wasn't it? Especially when he told them most of them have never had a real job in their entire lives. I lol'd. If he is not too busy, he should come to Trumps rallies.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (KTFfX)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (qUNWi)
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Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:33 PM (Doh4+)
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Oooooo, Jean took Jane D'oh's nic!!**gasp**
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Oooooo, Jean took Jane D'oh's nic!!**gasp**
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (xVgrA)
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Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:36 PM (J+mig)
I totally agree but that's not what Trump meant when he said it. Admittedly Trump is flexible on what he means at any given time. At this time he is saying a lot of populist things mixed in with some conservatism with an occasional sprinkle of liberalism.
I totally agree but that's not what Trump meant when he said it. Admittedly Trump is flexible on what he means at any given time. At this time he is saying a lot of populist things mixed in with some conservatism with an occasional sprinkle of liberalism.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (MNgU2)
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Play hide and seek in the Target rest rooms.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (IqV8l)
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The intern story is a hoax, right? It can't be true. It's a parody?
Posted by: Caunotaucarius at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (aruDZ)
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Well, I've had enough for one day.
Every single day I wake up, and my first thought is, "I wonder what fresh hell today?"
Seriously.
Every single day I wake up, and my first thought is, "I wonder what fresh hell today?"
Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: JEF at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (EZebt)
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Yeah, karaoke! What a stupid idea. Nobody does that on a first date.
Yeah, karaoke! What a stupid idea. Nobody does that on a first date.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (rvCve)
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I totally agree but that's not what Trump meant when he said it. Admittedly Trump is flexible on what he means at any given time. At this time he is saying a lot of populist things mixed in with some conservatism with an occasional sprinkle of liberalism.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (MNgU2)
Gibberish. No need to use so many words
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (MNgU2)
Gibberish. No need to use so many words
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (zp+j1)
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I think it may be a little early to panic. Can anyone point to a poll in June that showed a Republican in the lead ever? The media that run these polls are nothing more than leftist front groups. They don't even try to hide it anymore and they want to depress the vote as much as they can.
Hillary just may be indicted soon and that will be a game changer. If she's not then we are living in a banana republic have reached the end game already anyway.
We haven't even had the conventions yet. And remember, Trump received more votes than any republican nominee ever. Those votes are going to him in the general. Trump will pull in the blue collar vote and believe it or not, a lot of Bernie supporters too. So relax, it's an eternity between now and November.
But, if my fellow countrymen decide to put the vile pig in office after 8 years of chairman zero then we are truly well and fucked anyway. Invest in popcorn futures.
Hillary just may be indicted soon and that will be a game changer. If she's not then we are living in a banana republic have reached the end game already anyway.
We haven't even had the conventions yet. And remember, Trump received more votes than any republican nominee ever. Those votes are going to him in the general. Trump will pull in the blue collar vote and believe it or not, a lot of Bernie supporters too. So relax, it's an eternity between now and November.
But, if my fellow countrymen decide to put the vile pig in office after 8 years of chairman zero then we are truly well and fucked anyway. Invest in popcorn futures.
Posted by: Chill the Fuck Out at June 28, 2016 08:41 PM (6ujL+)
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I am grateful for God's creativity and artistry in
nature . I am grateful that I have a home and food and people in my life
to love and be loved by, and things to do in the church and the gift of
the ability to see and hear and think and speak and many other things
besides..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (frf5f)
+++++ everyday. Every morning we have one day less of our future and one pay more of our past.
nature . I am grateful that I have a home and food and people in my life
to love and be loved by, and things to do in the church and the gift of
the ability to see and hear and think and speak and many other things
besides..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:35 PM (frf5f)
+++++ everyday. Every morning we have one day less of our future and one pay more of our past.
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:41 PM (aRUb8)
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ISIS to target straight white people?
My strategy is working!
Posted by: JEF
Don't fire until you see the eyes of their whites.
ISIS to target straight white people?
My strategy is working!
Posted by: JEF
Don't fire until you see the eyes of their whites.
Posted by: Eye Cyst at June 28, 2016 08:41 PM (IqV8l)
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Stay home and watch cartoons? In the parent's basement I suppose. In PJs.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:41 PM (BO/km)
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got to admire Farage. don't think anyone's been as reviled as him in recent memory (Britain that is), and how did it all end ? he is godfather of Brexit.
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (c6/9Q)
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163, I prefer 'sisterhood of the menopausal bitches'.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (KTFfX)
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I never knew Cole Hamels was just like Koufax? But the Yankees are making a believer out of me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (zp+j1)
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Ok
Ordering out some food to go for the family dinner. Waiting for it. Dressed nice. Just got my long hair done. Makeup. Jewelry. Perfume. Nice white pants, black top, large white purse. No tattoos, piercings or purple hair.
Some older gals came up to me and asked me if I was here for the "Out Together Event"
Clearly a social group of lesbians. Sigh
I gotta go shopping
Ordering out some food to go for the family dinner. Waiting for it. Dressed nice. Just got my long hair done. Makeup. Jewelry. Perfume. Nice white pants, black top, large white purse. No tattoos, piercings or purple hair.
Some older gals came up to me and asked me if I was here for the "Out Together Event"
Clearly a social group of lesbians. Sigh
I gotta go shopping
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (XWEn3)
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>>Right, here's the thing: the more people see and hear Hillary!, the lower her polling goes. So her handlers are going go have to figure out some way to run a stealth campaign. No one wants to hear that shrill, shrieky voice
She has been getting tongue bathed ....ew... by the media for what, 30 years as historic everything. She has basically accomplished nothing in any job and the media has had to cover for an unbelievable amount of dirt. And still she has an approval number pretty damn close to Trump's.
She is such a shitty human being she actually came out today and admitted that people don't trust her and she has a lot of work to do on that front. And it looks like we are in for a summer of Islamic terror attacks and more Brexit feelings.
If I'm Trumps campaign manager I'm changing the campaign theme to He Sucks Less! and rolling with it.
She has been getting tongue bathed ....ew... by the media for what, 30 years as historic everything. She has basically accomplished nothing in any job and the media has had to cover for an unbelievable amount of dirt. And still she has an approval number pretty damn close to Trump's.
She is such a shitty human being she actually came out today and admitted that people don't trust her and she has a lot of work to do on that front. And it looks like we are in for a summer of Islamic terror attacks and more Brexit feelings.
If I'm Trumps campaign manager I'm changing the campaign theme to He Sucks Less! and rolling with it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (/tuJf)
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But, if my fellow countrymen decide to put the vile pig in office after 8 years of chairman zero then we are truly well and fucked anyway. Invest in popcorn futures.
It might not have been an entirely salubrious idea to put that followed by your handle, "Chill the fuck out." LOL.
It might not have been an entirely salubrious idea to put that followed by your handle, "Chill the fuck out." LOL.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:42 PM (frf5f)
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22. Play Paper Dolls
Before you roll your eyes at this one, let me say this: playing paper dolls with my friends is one of our favorite things to do. And this group includes an equal mix of guys and gals. The focus is on high-fashion, couture paper dolls, not kiddy paper dolls. Many of our dolls look more like works of art.
What do we do? We've downloaded and cut out templates of paper dolls. Then, we cut out images from fashion magazines and use fabric scraps and other materials we've collected to "dress up" our paper dolls. By the end, the dolls look more like outrageous runway models.
Yeah, great idea. Dummy.
22. Play Paper Dolls
Before you roll your eyes at this one, let me say this: playing paper dolls with my friends is one of our favorite things to do. And this group includes an equal mix of guys and gals. The focus is on high-fashion, couture paper dolls, not kiddy paper dolls. Many of our dolls look more like works of art.
What do we do? We've downloaded and cut out templates of paper dolls. Then, we cut out images from fashion magazines and use fabric scraps and other materials we've collected to "dress up" our paper dolls. By the end, the dolls look more like outrageous runway models.
Yeah, great idea. Dummy.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (rvCve)
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But most of the other suggestions are the typical:
bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson,
cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (rvCve)
Mini golf. 60% of the time it works every time.
bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson,
cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:37 PM (rvCve)
Mini golf. 60% of the time it works every time.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (JO9+V)
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I've been checking out quite a few videos of Nigel Farage today on the YouTube. The guy has balls of steel. If only men in the GOP were more like him.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (J6mLH)
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maybe we should adopt a parliamentary system...this two party thing...entrenched
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (c6/9Q)
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"Just really starting to wrap my head around the 9th through 12th uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule"
The misrule of the last seven and a half years has by no means been limited to the ranks of the Democratic Party.
A Republican Party intent on acting like a principled opposition would have blunted much of that awfulness. That never happened. Because the Republican establishment no longer even really grasp the concept of being an opposition.
Really, the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party crap goes back quite a ways. Decades. It's only very occasionally that spines are briefly strapped on and some tough resistance is proffered.
The misrule of the last seven and a half years has by no means been limited to the ranks of the Democratic Party.
A Republican Party intent on acting like a principled opposition would have blunted much of that awfulness. That never happened. Because the Republican establishment no longer even really grasp the concept of being an opposition.
Really, the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party crap goes back quite a ways. Decades. It's only very occasionally that spines are briefly strapped on and some tough resistance is proffered.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (noWW6)
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Perfect place for a first date: shooting range, hell, for any date.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (xVgrA)
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Hillary just may be indicted soon...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No, sorry, I won't pull your finger.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No, sorry, I won't pull your finger.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (mHKcx)
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I think Poland is out as soon as they can get a vote together, had drinks/dinner with a bunch of Polish embassy types. They are done with the EU and the passport union.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (Doh4+)
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>>> Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (KTFfX)
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Yeah, IC, the real jobs line was my favorite too. Watching the expressions on the people behind him was just priceless. He could have said so much more but showed amazing restraint while he was booed the whole time. I'm glad he gloated just a little bit and reminded that class of losers who won in the end.
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Yeah, IC, the real jobs line was my favorite too. Watching the expressions on the people behind him was just priceless. He could have said so much more but showed amazing restraint while he was booed the whole time. I'm glad he gloated just a little bit and reminded that class of losers who won in the end.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (6IPEM)
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I'm wearing my wedding ring.
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (XWEn3)
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Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:41 PM (aRUb
O.k. But I'm not actually sure what you meant :^)
O.k. But I'm not actually sure what you meant :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (frf5f)
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So her handlers are going go have to figure out some way to run a stealth campaign. No one wants to hear that shrill, shrieky voice.
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We are ON it.
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We are ON it.
Posted by: MSM at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (EqWBv)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (zp+j1)
Just skip my posts. I've been skipping yours.
Just skip my posts. I've been skipping yours.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (JO9+V)
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Perfect place for a first date: shooting range, hell, for any date.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (xVgrA)
I like the way you think. You wouldn't happen to be single, wouldya?
Perfect place for a first date: shooting range, hell, for any date.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (xVgrA)
I like the way you think. You wouldn't happen to be single, wouldya?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (J+mig)
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I'm not saying their is only one answer to what is going on, I'm just saying it is probably the only one that is going to work. The "elites"/Progressives think it is now full green-light to bumrush things, and they are starting to stop even pretending. And given Prog control of the cultural institutions, I'm not sure there is an ability to counter things via use of the political sphere.
But the people might surprise me yet. Wouldn't be the first time.
But the people might surprise me yet. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by: "Dr Franklin" at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (ORlaL)
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149 Bingo. I spent this afternoon ripping a younger female attorney to pieces in front of a few colleagues because she decided to ridicule Trump's speech in Monessen PA. I asked her to straight out defend Hillary Clinton's use of a private server for Dept of State work and to explain to me why someone who has compromised National Security would be preferable to someone like Trump who would be considered a clown. She had no response. Did I change her mind? Doubtful. But I sure as hell exposed her mindset to the people around me and put it in context.
Unlike some people, I am not going to overdose on antidepressants everytime I see a poll that is designed for one purpose and one purpose only, to discourage me from voting.
Unlike some people, I am not going to overdose on antidepressants everytime I see a poll that is designed for one purpose and one purpose only, to discourage me from voting.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (zBwYh)
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70 >>Somebody asked and doubted if there were any pictures of her holding a baby.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
Yes. Unfortunately, she is eating it like corn on the cob.
Posted by: Aviator at June 28, 2016 08:19 PM (c7vUv
How many nights will you be performing in the area?
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
Yes. Unfortunately, she is eating it like corn on the cob.
Posted by: Aviator at June 28, 2016 08:19 PM (c7vUv
How many nights will you be performing in the area?
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (hNICT)
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Just skip my posts. I've been skipping yours.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (MNgU2)
Don't know what bug got up your ass. I was agreeing with you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (MNgU2)
Don't know what bug got up your ass. I was agreeing with you.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (zp+j1)
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Can you believe these dumb 1st date suggestions? (from various lists)
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Can you believe these dumb 1st date suggestions? (from various lists)
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (rvCve)
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Unlike some people, I am not going to overdose on
antidepressants everytime I see a poll that is designed for one purpose
and one purpose only, to discourage me from voting.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (zBwYh)
And that's what the polls are about. They're there to intimidate, not inform.
antidepressants everytime I see a poll that is designed for one purpose
and one purpose only, to discourage me from voting.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (zBwYh)
And that's what the polls are about. They're there to intimidate, not inform.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (J+mig)
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If I were the Polish Government I'd want to get the heck out of the EU. The EU won't even let them control their own borders or have their own army?!! That's crazy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (frf5f)
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And Brexit had no chance!
Posted by: Tyler Mason at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (UCZHF)
The worst poll for BREXIT had 55% stay / 45% leave. A ten point split.The 'best' had 52% stay / 48% leave.
The Bradly Effect in the 52/48 it was 8% misled pollsters and flipped in the actual vote.The Bradly Effect in the 55/45 it was 13%.
A small change in the percentage of those misleading pollsters results in a relatively large swing in the point spread. Right now we have 10-20% telling the pollsters outright that they are misleading (choosing undecided/other). After the national conventions the nevertrumpers will either endorse hillery or finally STFU ('cause it ain't gonna be cruz).
And Brexit had no chance!
Posted by: Tyler Mason at June 28, 2016 08:24 PM (UCZHF)
The worst poll for BREXIT had 55% stay / 45% leave. A ten point split.The 'best' had 52% stay / 48% leave.
The Bradly Effect in the 52/48 it was 8% misled pollsters and flipped in the actual vote.The Bradly Effect in the 55/45 it was 13%.
A small change in the percentage of those misleading pollsters results in a relatively large swing in the point spread. Right now we have 10-20% telling the pollsters outright that they are misleading (choosing undecided/other). After the national conventions the nevertrumpers will either endorse hillery or finally STFU ('cause it ain't gonna be cruz).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (P/kVC)
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"Hillary just may be indicted soon and that will be a game changer"
Slow-retta at DOJ has the final say and there's no chance that she's indicting.
What may happen is that Comey at the FBI will _recommend_ indictment to his DOJ superior, that being as far as his writ extends. Which is a different critter legally and politically.
Slow-retta at DOJ has the final say and there's no chance that she's indicting.
What may happen is that Comey at the FBI will _recommend_ indictment to his DOJ superior, that being as far as his writ extends. Which is a different critter legally and politically.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2016 08:48 PM (ODxAs)
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So, some actor I never heard of on a show I never watch won an award on a network I ignore went all Black Nationalist in his acceptance speech. He's getting kudo's in all the predictable places. My give a shit meter is not registering but I will endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2016 08:48 PM (syGA0)
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No Subaru.
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (XWEn3)
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-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Well if you did all of those things on a first date that would be pretty awesome.
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Well if you did all of those things on a first date that would be pretty awesome.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (BO/km)
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O.k. But I'm not actually sure what you meant :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (frf5f)
Just reaffirming what you said using slightly different words.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:44 PM (frf5f)
Just reaffirming what you said using slightly different words.
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (aRUb8)
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Its not competition when one side is able to use slave labor. The politicians and bankers are enriched while US workers lose jobs. Tariff to put wages at a true "market rate". Easy to calc.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (Omz6S)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:45 PM (zp+j1)
I read that as a description of my post as you have always come down on me for anything negative I've said about Trump.
I read that as a description of my post as you have always come down on me for anything negative I've said about Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (MNgU2)
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"If I'm Trumps campaign manager I'm changing the campaign theme to He Sucks Less! and rolling with it."
And, really, "sucks less" historically has won a lot of campaigns where the electorate isn't enthused about either one of the choices. It's also a style of campaigning that Trump can do, with his limited range of skills.
And, really, "sucks less" historically has won a lot of campaigns where the electorate isn't enthused about either one of the choices. It's also a style of campaigning that Trump can do, with his limited range of skills.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 08:50 PM (noWW6)
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>>>> -Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (rvCve)
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My first date involved sneaking into a pool at one of the nicest hotels in town. Bad date. The sneaking into the pool part was fun though.
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (rvCve)
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My first date involved sneaking into a pool at one of the nicest hotels in town. Bad date. The sneaking into the pool part was fun though.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:50 PM (6IPEM)
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That link in the sidebar with the intern/dress code thing is hilarious. So much fail, so many levels of fail...my God, it's full of fail!
Posted by: Oschisms at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (ZsN9X)
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Advantages of mini golf for a first date:
1. Can wager a kiss on making a hole-in-one
2. All the cheesy sex-golf jokes will get her to laugh, then you are in like Flint
3. You can check out her form and figure
4. Plenty of time to talk between holes
5. If it goes well, go out for dessert afterwards
1. Can wager a kiss on making a hole-in-one
2. All the cheesy sex-golf jokes will get her to laugh, then you are in like Flint
3. You can check out her form and figure
4. Plenty of time to talk between holes
5. If it goes well, go out for dessert afterwards
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (JO9+V)
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It's pussies like blind ace that result in america becoming pussified cowards and not winning a war i about 70 years. Man up, or get out. You and george will can stoke each others bones in corner while crying.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (Omz6S)
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Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk. Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
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Will, what a dumbass. Republican presidents are held to a higher standard by the press and the public (thanks to the press). And "historic first female" president Hillary will have the same pen and phone that King Putt had, so don't look for the Ryan Express to try and slow down her agenda.
Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk. Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
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Will, what a dumbass. Republican presidents are held to a higher standard by the press and the public (thanks to the press). And "historic first female" president Hillary will have the same pen and phone that King Putt had, so don't look for the Ryan Express to try and slow down her agenda.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (KlVdw)
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Since i didn't post it earlier-Here's a devotional from the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews:
"The Cloud of Glory"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jnm82sd
"The Cloud of Glory"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jnm82sd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (frf5f)
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Middle-aged people like getting into swimsuits on their first dates?
Sneaking into a pool might be a good idea for the very young.
Middle-aged people like getting into swimsuits on their first dates?
Sneaking into a pool might be a good idea for the very young.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (rvCve)
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"Tariff to put wages at a true 'market rate'. Easy to calc."
We can't even agree on what the appropriate comparative wage is between male and female workers in _this_ country.
I pre-emptively denounce myself for having used the biased, outmoded, insulting terminology of "male" and "female".
We can't even agree on what the appropriate comparative wage is between male and female workers in _this_ country.
I pre-emptively denounce myself for having used the biased, outmoded, insulting terminology of "male" and "female".
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (noWW6)
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Allow me to reiterate my suggestion for Trump's slogan - "Trump for President 2016: Bcause what could he do, fuck it up?"
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (zBwYh)
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (frf5f)
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I read that as a description of my post as you have always come down on me for anything negative I've said about Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (MNgU2)
I was agreeing with you. That what he was saying was gibberish. I don't come down on you for saying negative stuff about him, just the way you say it sometimes and for what purpose. But in the end you and I probably are not that far apart. Anyway was with joos on that one and not trying to pick a fight.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (MNgU2)
I was agreeing with you. That what he was saying was gibberish. I don't come down on you for saying negative stuff about him, just the way you say it sometimes and for what purpose. But in the end you and I probably are not that far apart. Anyway was with joos on that one and not trying to pick a fight.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (zp+j1)
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I like the way you think. You wouldn't happen to be single, wouldya?
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Married 11 years this coming Saturday with 3 kids between 6 and 9!
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Married 11 years this coming Saturday with 3 kids between 6 and 9!
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (rvCve)
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If I were the Polish Government I'd want to get the heck out of the EU.
The EU won't even let them control their own borders or have their own
army?!! That's crazy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (frf5f)
Didn't some guy in the 30's think it would be a good idea to grab the power from individuals and whole countries and make a "Superstate"?? He tried a different tactic....didn't work. Anyway, same goal....different tactic. Do it for "the people" or "the children"...or even "the planet". Same fascists...different costume.
If I were the Polish Government I'd want to get the heck out of the EU.
The EU won't even let them control their own borders or have their own
army?!! That's crazy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (frf5f)
Didn't some guy in the 30's think it would be a good idea to grab the power from individuals and whole countries and make a "Superstate"?? He tried a different tactic....didn't work. Anyway, same goal....different tactic. Do it for "the people" or "the children"...or even "the planet". Same fascists...different costume.
Posted by: Mimzey at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (aRUb8)
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Just really starting to wrap my head around the 9th through 12th
uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule, this time by the most corrupt
female schemer since Olivia Medicci.
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If it makes you feel any better, since no western government expresses any interest in protecting us from foreigners (or defuse the debt bomb), there's a pretty good chance civilization will collapse before that 12th year is reached.
uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule, this time by the most corrupt
female schemer since Olivia Medicci.
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If it makes you feel any better, since no western government expresses any interest in protecting us from foreigners (or defuse the debt bomb), there's a pretty good chance civilization will collapse before that 12th year is reached.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (3Liv/)
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But most of the other suggestions are the typical:
bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson, cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
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what ever happened to giving the girl oral for 3 hours while she complains about her life? Where has romance gone?
bowling, museum, theme park, horseback riding, karaoke, dance lesson, cooking lesson, etc. Real unoriginal stuff.
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what ever happened to giving the girl oral for 3 hours while she complains about her life? Where has romance gone?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (EqWBv)
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A little cheer for a depressive thread. This guy at Jolly Roger Telephone Company has written a bot that responds to telemarketers with a pre-recorded set of responses that actually make it sound like a conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3OxCWLEmoIhNMm-hnvBm9Q
Some of them are hilarious. My favorite is the "Windows Support tries to find the control key with Whitey Whitebeard"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntodM58StSI
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3OxCWLEmoIhNMm-hnvBm9Q
Some of them are hilarious. My favorite is the "Windows Support tries to find the control key with Whitey Whitebeard"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntodM58StSI
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (MQEz6)
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@204
Can you believe these dumb 1st date suggestions? (from various lists)
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Playing Truth or Dare, or sneaking into a pool sound like good ideas...
@204
Can you believe these dumb 1st date suggestions? (from various lists)
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Playing Truth or Dare, or sneaking into a pool sound like good ideas...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (kP16F)
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There are many endings. Today is one of them.
Posted by: Jennifer Goines at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (wfv0g)
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While driving to an errand a while ago I heard a news segment on the radio that should be a Trump ad.
The Benghazi report notes that less than an hour after HRC lied to the world about the attack being prompted by a YouTube video, she emailed her daughter that it was a well planned terrorist action. When asked about the report, Clinton remarked that it was time to move on.
I was so outraged I almost lost control of the car. Move on? When you're trying to become President so you can do more of this crap to us and so much else? When HRC officially retires from public office, or is in jail, or six feet under, that is when it will be time to move on.
The idea of Trump as President is unbelievable to me but a HRC Presidency on top of the last eight year may be nationally unsurvivable.
The Benghazi report notes that less than an hour after HRC lied to the world about the attack being prompted by a YouTube video, she emailed her daughter that it was a well planned terrorist action. When asked about the report, Clinton remarked that it was time to move on.
I was so outraged I almost lost control of the car. Move on? When you're trying to become President so you can do more of this crap to us and so much else? When HRC officially retires from public office, or is in jail, or six feet under, that is when it will be time to move on.
The idea of Trump as President is unbelievable to me but a HRC Presidency on top of the last eight year may be nationally unsurvivable.
Posted by: Epobirs at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (IdCqF)
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Perfect place for a first date: shooting range, hell, for any date.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (xVgrA)
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well, maybe not the Last date.
Perfect place for a first date: shooting range, hell, for any date.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:43 PM (xVgrA)
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well, maybe not the Last date.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 28, 2016 08:55 PM (EqWBv)
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Trump is doing fine.
He will defeat The Hill-Thing.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (MQEz6)
I suspect he will do, but I believe it will be events that determine the result, not anything resembling good ideas and plans from Don.
He will defeat The Hill-Thing.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 08:54 PM (MQEz6)
I suspect he will do, but I believe it will be events that determine the result, not anything resembling good ideas and plans from Don.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 08:56 PM (Dj0WE)
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After the national conventions the nevertrumpers will either endorse hillery or finally STFU ('cause it ain't gonna be cruz).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (P/kVC)
As much as I like Cruz, he never really had a chance. He's logical. We can't win on the logical vote alone. There's not enough of them, and you can't logic people out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. We have to appeal to the Brawndo crowd.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 08:47 PM (P/kVC)
As much as I like Cruz, he never really had a chance. He's logical. We can't win on the logical vote alone. There's not enough of them, and you can't logic people out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. We have to appeal to the Brawndo crowd.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:56 PM (J+mig)
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The purpose of the Republican party is not to have principals, it's to win elections.
Just like the purpose of the military is not to have principals but to win battles/wars.
Stop bathing in your self righteous goodness.
The Republicans are going to fail. Fire them.
Just like the purpose of the military is not to have principals but to win battles/wars.
Stop bathing in your self righteous goodness.
The Republicans are going to fail. Fire them.
Posted by: danny at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (GQaZZ)
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Sex-golf jokes? I am unaware.
Sounds risky on a first date.
Think of all the ball washer jokes you can tell to break the ice.
Sounds risky on a first date.
Think of all the ball washer jokes you can tell to break the ice.
Posted by: dartist at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (qmou8)
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Can you believe these dumb 1st date suggestions? (from various lists)
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
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where is machine gun a night club?
-Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
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where is machine gun a night club?
Posted by: Ahmed at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (EqWBv)
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It won't work for us, but we're not the only Americans out there. We can't win on right jabs alone anymore. That was a long time ago. Thanks to the wonderful immigration policies supported by the GOPe and the movement cons (as well as, of course, the Dems), the electorate isn't the same, and we're going to have to start throwing some left hooks along with our right jabs.
He's trying to carve out a new electoral coalition. People like you, myself, and the rest of the Horde are holdovers from yesterday's coalition. So, we won't be super excited about some of the new agenda items. (I wasn't super excited about some of the old ones, to be honest, but whatever.) Just be patient, and give the man the support he needs.
We're behind, but we've got four months to go. No time for denial, but also no time for pessimism. Just fight. Fight is all there's ever time for. I gave the dude $75.00 in the last four days. I'll be manning the phones when the time comes, too.
He's trying to carve out a new electoral coalition. People like you, myself, and the rest of the Horde are holdovers from yesterday's coalition. So, we won't be super excited about some of the new agenda items. (I wasn't super excited about some of the old ones, to be honest, but whatever.) Just be patient, and give the man the support he needs.
We're behind, but we've got four months to go. No time for denial, but also no time for pessimism. Just fight. Fight is all there's ever time for. I gave the dude $75.00 in the last four days. I'll be manning the phones when the time comes, too.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (yW9sk)
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Married 11 years this coming Saturday with 3 kids between 6 and 9!
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (xVgrA)
As usual, all the good ones are already spoken for.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 08:53 PM (xVgrA)
As usual, all the good ones are already spoken for.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 08:58 PM (J+mig)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (zp+j1)
My misunderstanding. And yes , you and I agree way more than we disagree on the big picture.
My misunderstanding. And yes , you and I agree way more than we disagree on the big picture.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 08:59 PM (MNgU2)
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Think of all the ball washer jokes you can tell to break the ice end the date.
Posted by: dartist at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (qmou
Posted by: dartist at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (qmou
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 08:59 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:59 PM (qUNWi)
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I don't care who the next Pres is. If it is Trump, the left will raise hell worse than they did with Bush.
If it's Hillary, she will take this country right to hell, without a handbasket.
If it's Biden, it will be another eight years of Obama.
If it's Hillary, she will take this country right to hell, without a handbasket.
If it's Biden, it will be another eight years of Obama.
Posted by: Twemblie Gainesless at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (BsUcn)
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Allow me to reiterate my suggestion for Trump's slogan - "Trump for President 2016: Bcause what could he do, fuck it up?"
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (zBwYh)
Trump for President: Because all else has failed and you can't break what's already broken!
Allow me to reiterate my suggestion for Trump's slogan - "Trump for President 2016: Bcause what could he do, fuck it up?"
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 28, 2016 08:52 PM (zBwYh)
Trump for President: Because all else has failed and you can't break what's already broken!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (rvCve)
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I have to confess: I'm starting to get depressed. Not so much that Trump will lose, but that Hillary will win.
Trump will do better than any other the GOP likes would have done. That is clear.
If Shrillary wins it will only be because the country is just too far gone. Of course, that was pretty much the upshot of Barky having been re-elected.
There was no one else in the GOP race (or the idiots that some GOPers were trying to foist on us) that would do any better than Trump and certainly none that had policy ideas that were even acceptable (with the one exception of Cruz, though he is ineligible).
If you are depressed about all this then your depression should be years old, already.
Trump will do better than any other the GOP likes would have done. That is clear.
If Shrillary wins it will only be because the country is just too far gone. Of course, that was pretty much the upshot of Barky having been re-elected.
There was no one else in the GOP race (or the idiots that some GOPers were trying to foist on us) that would do any better than Trump and certainly none that had policy ideas that were even acceptable (with the one exception of Cruz, though he is ineligible).
If you are depressed about all this then your depression should be years old, already.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (L7t0A)
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With Hillary's age, sobriety, and physical health, she's destined to trip on her fat fucking cankles, tumble down the retractable stairway of Air Force One, and crack open her evil melon.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (oia+s)
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Maybe trump should push the line that hellory is for USIN, US into the EU. She wants to hand over our sovereignty to the EU!!! Well, it IS almost mostly sort of true, amirite?
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:01 PM (xVgrA)
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I know one thing: I hope Hilz and Poky-hauntus run. The men I know will find a lot of relief having those old bags in charge. And if wimmen had any sense they would be frightened, too. I have read Le Haggard Harridan has a MD with her and only has the "cough" energy to speak every other day or few.
What is the deal with Kerry's lizard tongue lapping his thin lips every two seconds? A sign of Thorazine? wut
The Benghazi report is totally depressing. As the Rain Woman of the time line and an early thrashing of libs on WaPo with facts from UK papers, it blows what is left of my mind to read. Total PC response to terrorism. God help us if "the big one" happens under these buffoons who could not run a Montessori playground. I nearly blew a carotid watching Rice that memorable day when I realized we were N.Korea, blabbing, in her grey pearls, about the youtube video. Apparently there were those in the State Dept who echoed my ranting that she was "off the reservation." How raciss! Oh, wait, another issue like tranny's in bathrooms vs the world being defeated by barbarians with a combined IQ of a cretin. pfft
And, yes, I only show up for terrorism you morons who may remember me. xoxo
What is the deal with Kerry's lizard tongue lapping his thin lips every two seconds? A sign of Thorazine? wut
The Benghazi report is totally depressing. As the Rain Woman of the time line and an early thrashing of libs on WaPo with facts from UK papers, it blows what is left of my mind to read. Total PC response to terrorism. God help us if "the big one" happens under these buffoons who could not run a Montessori playground. I nearly blew a carotid watching Rice that memorable day when I realized we were N.Korea, blabbing, in her grey pearls, about the youtube video. Apparently there were those in the State Dept who echoed my ranting that she was "off the reservation." How raciss! Oh, wait, another issue like tranny's in bathrooms vs the world being defeated by barbarians with a combined IQ of a cretin. pfft
And, yes, I only show up for terrorism you morons who may remember me. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (jRWGg)
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When I was much younger (like 30 years) I went to a psychic once but not for a date. Now, I don't even want to read the horoscope in the paper; I don't want to leave myself open for any negative/evil energies that might want to take advantage of me opening that door.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (frf5f)
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Trump 2016: The last guy cancelled your health care. How could I be any worse?
Posted by: Oschisms at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (ZsN9X)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 28, 2016 09:03 PM (21hN3)
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With Hillary's age, sobriety, and physical health, she's destined to
trip on her fat fucking cankles, tumble down the retractable stairway of
Air Force One, and crack open her evil melon.
At which point, zombies will crack out of the tarmac and devour the skull and body parts, oozing back into the asphalt and down into the Earth's core.
With Hillary's age, sobriety, and physical health, she's destined to
trip on her fat fucking cankles, tumble down the retractable stairway of
Air Force One, and crack open her evil melon.
At which point, zombies will crack out of the tarmac and devour the skull and body parts, oozing back into the asphalt and down into the Earth's core.
Posted by: Chunks at June 28, 2016 09:03 PM (g9d8D)
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Depressive? If the story in the sidebar about the moonbat intern encountering real doesn't bring a smile to your face, you have no soul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:04 PM (Nwg0u)
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217 >>>> -Play truth or dare
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (rvCve)
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My first date involved sneaking into a pool at one of the nicest hotels in town. Bad date. The sneaking into the pool part was fun though.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:50 PM (6IPEM
-Truth or Dare= sexual assault charges being filed
-Visit a Psychic= lots of money being thrown away and great chances of bad news revelved.
-Watch a Sunset= Sunsets last 15 minutes.
- Sneak into a pool= you and your date must be kinda in shape plus the too much chlorine burning eyes excuse
- Have breakfast for dinner= you are super cheap
- Go rollerskating= high percentage somebody gets injured
- Chuck E Cheese= you or her looks like a child molesters. Plus kids carry strong nasty diseases.
Best first date, go to a Comedy Club.
-Visit a psychic
-Watch the sunset
-Sneak into a pool
-Have breakfast for dinner
-Go rollerskating
-Go to Chuck E Cheese
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 08:46 PM (rvCve)
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My first date involved sneaking into a pool at one of the nicest hotels in town. Bad date. The sneaking into the pool part was fun though.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 08:50 PM (6IPEM
-Truth or Dare= sexual assault charges being filed
-Visit a Psychic= lots of money being thrown away and great chances of bad news revelved.
-Watch a Sunset= Sunsets last 15 minutes.
- Sneak into a pool= you and your date must be kinda in shape plus the too much chlorine burning eyes excuse
- Have breakfast for dinner= you are super cheap
- Go rollerskating= high percentage somebody gets injured
- Chuck E Cheese= you or her looks like a child molesters. Plus kids carry strong nasty diseases.
Best first date, go to a Comedy Club.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 09:04 PM (hNICT)
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Ace, it's Medici, one 'c'. You can't blame that one on bad eyesight. You made a typo.
Posted by: Spelling nazi at June 28, 2016 09:04 PM (xSfiX)
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Hi Christy! Delightful as usual I see.
Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2016 09:05 PM (BO/km)
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If you are depressed about all this then your depression should be years old, already.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (L7t0A)
I've gone through the depression. Damn near shot myself in 2013 when it looked like things were hopelessly bleak. I got better. If I'd gone through with it, I'd have missed out on the Brexit and the rays of light we're seeing now.
The only way out is through. We've got to win this.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:00 PM (L7t0A)
I've gone through the depression. Damn near shot myself in 2013 when it looked like things were hopelessly bleak. I got better. If I'd gone through with it, I'd have missed out on the Brexit and the rays of light we're seeing now.
The only way out is through. We've got to win this.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:05 PM (J+mig)
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Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (jRWGg)
Good to "see" you again, Christy and your most colorful and darkly amusing way of phrasing things.
Good to "see" you again, Christy and your most colorful and darkly amusing way of phrasing things.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (frf5f)
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ace making typos is like a hipster with a handlebar moustache.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (qUNWi)
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The comedy club idea is good. You let someone else do the entertaining while you drink and laugh. At the end of the date, she associates You with Laughter.
The comedy club idea is good. You let someone else do the entertaining while you drink and laugh. At the end of the date, she associates You with Laughter.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (rvCve)
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232:If it makes you feel any better, since no western government expresses any interest in protecting us from foreigners (or defuse the debt bomb), there's a pretty good chance civilization will collapse before that 12th year is reached.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat
Heh! Cheer Up, for the worse is yet to come!!
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat
Heh! Cheer Up, for the worse is yet to come!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (syGA0)
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257 When I was much younger (like 30 years) I went to a psychic once but not for a date. Now, I don't even want to read the horoscope in the paper; I don't want to leave myself open for any negative/evil energies that might want to take advantage of me opening that door.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (frf5f)
E = - 1/2 mv^2?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:02 PM (frf5f)
E = - 1/2 mv^2?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (oKE6c)
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We're FUCKED.
Always have been.
This was never about winning.
But when we're in the reeducation camps, I want to hang out with the Morons with the "Heywood Jablomie" name tags.
I want to snicker when a fellow Moron eats all the bran muffins in the Aloha Snackbar and crop dusts the Transgender Racial Sensitivity training.
I want to stumble through the wilderness until I find the guerrilla camp of General Ho Lee Fuk and his lieutenant Captain Assface McButthead. AVENGE ME!!!
Always have been.
This was never about winning.
But when we're in the reeducation camps, I want to hang out with the Morons with the "Heywood Jablomie" name tags.
I want to snicker when a fellow Moron eats all the bran muffins in the Aloha Snackbar and crop dusts the Transgender Racial Sensitivity training.
I want to stumble through the wilderness until I find the guerrilla camp of General Ho Lee Fuk and his lieutenant Captain Assface McButthead. AVENGE ME!!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:08 PM (dSuDi)
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Buddy Ryan died?
Buddy Ryan died?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:08 PM (rvCve)
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>>> Best first date, go to a Comedy Club.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016
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I would generally agree as long as you know the act you're seeing will actually be funny. What if the comedy falls flat? Then what?
I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
Worst idea and most common first date is dinner and a movie. Don't do that.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016
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I would generally agree as long as you know the act you're seeing will actually be funny. What if the comedy falls flat? Then what?
I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
Worst idea and most common first date is dinner and a movie. Don't do that.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 09:08 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (GUBah)
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How about we closed the fucking border to people who have not been even looked at as closely as I was when I renewed my fkin drivers license!!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (9plvG)
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Buddy Ryan died?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:08 PM (rvCve)
No, he's pining for the fjords. Look at his beautiful plumage.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:08 PM (rvCve)
No, he's pining for the fjords. Look at his beautiful plumage.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (Dj0WE)
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Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
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First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (7lVbc)
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the songwriter of "Mustang Sally" (one of the best bar tunes ever -- Sweet Caroline is number two) is dead?
the songwriter of "Mustang Sally" (one of the best bar tunes ever -- Sweet Caroline is number two) is dead?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (rvCve)
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E = - 1/2 mv^2?
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (frf5f)
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How about we closed the fucking border to people who have not been even
looked at as closely as I was when I renewed my fkin drivers license!!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (9plvG)
That's common sense, so it invariably won't be done.
How about we closed the fucking border to people who have not been even
looked at as closely as I was when I renewed my fkin drivers license!!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (9plvG)
That's common sense, so it invariably won't be done.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (J+mig)
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I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
Comedy picnic
I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
Comedy picnic
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
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KISS -- lunch, someplace with a tablecloth
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (Doh4+)
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He's resting
Posted by: Roy at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (fWLrt)
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First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
Take her to my next armed robbery, then?
First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
Take her to my next armed robbery, then?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (rvCve)
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220 It's pussies like blind ace that result in america becoming pussified cowards and not winning a war i about 70 years. Man up, or get out. You and george will can stoke each others bones in corner while crying.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (Omz6S
Real men don't use the phrase "man up". Feminist men and women and all humans that hate men do.
Congrats you hate men.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:51 PM (Omz6S
Real men don't use the phrase "man up". Feminist men and women and all humans that hate men do.
Congrats you hate men.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (hNICT)
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I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
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Comedy picnic
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
Count on it.
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Comedy picnic
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
Count on it.
Posted by: The Ants at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (Dj0WE)
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I mean not that you'll get get bad news although you might get that too, but it is turning away from the providence of God and trusting in something else that is not friendly to the human soul
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (frf5f)
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KE = - 1/2 mv^2?
Posted by: Roy at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (fWLrt)
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Do people under 30 even date anymore? I thought it was all just hook ups and Tinder.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (MNgU2)
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Put not your faith in princes. Plans are overcome by events. Larger forces are at work. None of us know the future
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (zOTsN)
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Scissor Sisters 2016
Posted by: teh Wind at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (up5+o)
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Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (rvCve)
Take her to place ISIS might be more likely to attack?
Take her to place ISIS might be more likely to attack?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (frf5f)
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Having sports legends at the convention is a great idea. More people identify with them than governors and senators etc.
However, having Mike Tyson be one of them is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, politically speaking.
Please do not do that.
However, having Mike Tyson be one of them is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, politically speaking.
Please do not do that.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (NAv1Q)
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277 Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
Yeah, because a hundred and fifty years of protectionism actually working were invalidated by one ill-thought tariff. Get real.
Free trade has delivered all of the expected drawbacks and then some, without delivering any of the expected benefits. The Founders had it right, and we've been fucking up by the numbers since the end of WWII.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
Yeah, because a hundred and fifty years of protectionism actually working were invalidated by one ill-thought tariff. Get real.
Free trade has delivered all of the expected drawbacks and then some, without delivering any of the expected benefits. The Founders had it right, and we've been fucking up by the numbers since the end of WWII.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (J+mig)
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290 Do people under 30 even date anymore? I thought it was all just hook ups and Tinder.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
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Pron in the basement on Mom's broadband wifi
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
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Pron in the basement on Mom's broadband wifi
Posted by: Roy at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (fWLrt)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (rvCve)
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277 Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
I'm hoping it's campaign bait, and also a head fake for later negotiations, so that our trade partners think they potentially have something to lose if they are intransigent.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems' immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
I'm hoping it's campaign bait, and also a head fake for later negotiations, so that our trade partners think they potentially have something to lose if they are intransigent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (oKE6c)
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The only way out is through. We've got to win this.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:05 PM (J+mig)
We may well not win this but Trump is the only chance we have at a win. Any of the other GOPers would have been an automatic loss - regardless of the election outcome - as they represented the worst parts of the leftists, themselves.
We will find a way out, no matter what, because there is nothing else left. Monetary devastation awaits us, no matter. There is no escaping from that. The Fed and Washington have made sure that that bomb is set and there is no escape from it. At least we can have someone defending the idea of the nation-state and sovereignty as the time approaches. That is the best we can do, at this point. The absolute best.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:05 PM (J+mig)
We may well not win this but Trump is the only chance we have at a win. Any of the other GOPers would have been an automatic loss - regardless of the election outcome - as they represented the worst parts of the leftists, themselves.
We will find a way out, no matter what, because there is nothing else left. Monetary devastation awaits us, no matter. There is no escaping from that. The Fed and Washington have made sure that that bomb is set and there is no escape from it. At least we can have someone defending the idea of the nation-state and sovereignty as the time approaches. That is the best we can do, at this point. The absolute best.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (L7t0A)
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>>> Comedy picnic
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM
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Yeah, perfect. I'm not sure how that would work but sounds perfect.
:-)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM
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Yeah, perfect. I'm not sure how that would work but sounds perfect.
:-)
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (6IPEM)
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At least George Will will be happy, right?
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (2Ocf1)
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281 Cato!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:14 PM (9plvG)
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Comedy picnic
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
Count on it.
Posted by: The Ants at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (Dj0WE)
Hola
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
Count on it.
Posted by: The Ants at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (Dj0WE)
Hola
Posted by: ZIKA mosquitos at June 28, 2016 09:14 PM (c6/9Q)
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Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (rvCve)
Take her to place ISIS might be more likely to attack?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (frf5f)
Istanbul, FTW!
Take her to place ISIS might be more likely to attack?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (frf5f)
Istanbul, FTW!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:14 PM (Dj0WE)
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>>With Hillary's age, sobriety, and physical health, she's destined to trip on her fat fucking cankles, tumble down the retractable stairway of Air Force One, and crack open her evil melon.
Posted by: Fritz
Meh, been there done that. Have you seen my nifty glasses?
Posted by: Fritz
Meh, been there done that. Have you seen my nifty glasses?
Posted by: Hillary at June 28, 2016 09:14 PM (c7vUv)
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Cheer up. Cankles will not win.
Posted by: BamaBubba at June 28, 2016 09:14 PM (vKTRb)
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Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (rvCve)
If a previous thread is to believed they want to pick places that killings won't be blamed on bigotry against gays so they get full "credit" for their terror as an Islamic group
If a previous thread is to believed they want to pick places that killings won't be blamed on bigotry against gays so they get full "credit" for their terror as an Islamic group
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:15 PM (frf5f)
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"AVENGE ME!!!"
Believe it or not, even here in the SF Bay Area, I found myself behind a pickup truck with a bumper sticker bearing the likeness of Reagan, and those very words.
Believe it or not, even here in the SF Bay Area, I found myself behind a pickup truck with a bumper sticker bearing the likeness of Reagan, and those very words.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 09:15 PM (noWW6)
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"They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help."
That 'truism' isn't a solid as 'inevitable'.
It assumes labor portability or analysis from such a high level that individual pain and suffering is muted into a melage of a general rising tide. The problem is that those suffering - vote and they vote more often then the comfortable.
That 'truism' isn't a solid as 'inevitable'.
It assumes labor portability or analysis from such a high level that individual pain and suffering is muted into a melage of a general rising tide. The problem is that those suffering - vote and they vote more often then the comfortable.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 09:15 PM (Doh4+)
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Do not go horseback riding on your first date if you ever want her to think you measure up.
Posted by: Mr Ed at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (wfv0g)
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280 E = - 1/2 mv^2?
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (frf5f)
It is the formula for kinetic energy (energy of motion). E is the energy, m is the mass, a v is the velocity. The equation tells you that the energy is linearly affected my the mass, but exponentially affected by the velocity.
So, something small going really fast hurts like something big going kinda slow.
280 E = - 1/2 mv^2?
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (frf5f)
It is the formula for kinetic energy (energy of motion). E is the energy, m is the mass, a v is the velocity. The equation tells you that the energy is linearly affected my the mass, but exponentially affected by the velocity.
So, something small going really fast hurts like something big going kinda slow.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (MQEz6)
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290 Do people under 30 even date anymore? I thought it was all just hook ups and Tinder.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
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Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
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Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (xVgrA)
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None of us know the future
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM
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I do.
None of us know the future
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM
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I do.
Posted by: The most depressed man in the world. at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (XfEYT)
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These are tomorrow's Good Ole Days.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (rwI+c)
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The comedy club idea is good. You let someone else
do the entertaining while you drink and laugh. At the end of the date,
she associates You with Laughter.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (rvCve)
Especially if the headline act is one of those hypnotist acts. My date to one of those went under just sitting in the audience. She didn't go up on stage. A little post-hypnotic suggestion whispered in her ear and . . .
do the entertaining while you drink and laugh. At the end of the date,
she associates You with Laughter.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:06 PM (rvCve)
Especially if the headline act is one of those hypnotist acts. My date to one of those went under just sitting in the audience. She didn't go up on stage. A little post-hypnotic suggestion whispered in her ear and . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (JO9+V)
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Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (IqV8l)
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280 E = - 1/2 mv^2?
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (frf5f)
Kidding. Kinetic energy is given by E = 1/2 mv^2, where m = mass and v is velocity. So negative energy (whatever that is) would be E = - 1/2 mv^2. So the mass would have to be negative.
Nerd joke. Negative energy is like negative temperature, or an ethical Democrat. Doesn't exist.
I'm sorry; i don't know what that means aside from a reference to E=M^2. You have to simplify it for simple minds like mine.
However, i think anything to do with the supernatural in the sense of fortune telling, etc, is bad news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:10 PM (frf5f)
Kidding. Kinetic energy is given by E = 1/2 mv^2, where m = mass and v is velocity. So negative energy (whatever that is) would be E = - 1/2 mv^2. So the mass would have to be negative.
Nerd joke. Negative energy is like negative temperature, or an ethical Democrat. Doesn't exist.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (oKE6c)
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Unless you want 6 ultra left wingers on the supreme court, you better get your ass and everyone else you know to the polls and vote for Trump.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (NAv1Q)
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Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
Tariffs are sound and legitimate tools the government has always had at its disposable and used. In fact, the government used to be financed, for the most part, with tariffs. But now, the joke they play on us is that tariffs are nothing but pure evil (part and parcel of the government now being funded mostly by income taxes and printed money - funny that) and that anyone who advocates any sort of tariff is going to driuve us into a depression. That's just silly.
An economy without borders makes no more sense than a nation without borders.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
Tariffs are sound and legitimate tools the government has always had at its disposable and used. In fact, the government used to be financed, for the most part, with tariffs. But now, the joke they play on us is that tariffs are nothing but pure evil (part and parcel of the government now being funded mostly by income taxes and printed money - funny that) and that anyone who advocates any sort of tariff is going to driuve us into a depression. That's just silly.
An economy without borders makes no more sense than a nation without borders.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (L7t0A)
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"Free trade has delivered all of the expected drawbacks and then some, without delivering any of the expected benefits..."
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (J+mig)
Sentences like that make my head hurt. Not one word of your statement is true, including the 'and' and 'the' and 'then'.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:13 PM (J+mig)
Sentences like that make my head hurt. Not one word of your statement is true, including the 'and' and 'the' and 'then'.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (tuvxV)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:18 PM (J+mig)
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314 These are tomorrow's Good Ole Days.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (rwI+c)
Like the old Soviet joke: today is average. Worse than yesterday, better than tomorrow.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:16 PM (rwI+c)
Like the old Soviet joke: today is average. Worse than yesterday, better than tomorrow.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:18 PM (oKE6c)
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316, uber. All the cool kids ride that way now.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 09:18 PM (g91ie)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 28, 2016 09:19 PM (voOPb)
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An economy without borders makes no more sense than a nation without borders.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (L7t0A)
False comparison, a fallacy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (L7t0A)
False comparison, a fallacy.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:19 PM (tuvxV)
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I am continually amazed how perfectly intelligent people who are fully aware of how the unified propaganda machine called the "mainstream media" operates nevertheless put full faith and credence in polling "data".
Everything else they say is one lie stacked on top of another, but polls are 100 % truthful ?
Everything else they say is one lie stacked on top of another, but polls are 100 % truthful ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez_ at June 28, 2016 09:19 PM (gUoN4)
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What I find interesting about a Hillary Clinton Administration is that she will be ruthless in how she goes about deconstructing Barry Obama's legacy.
She is Barry's worst enemy, and he's to fucking stupid to see what's about to bone him in the arse.
She is Barry's worst enemy, and he's to fucking stupid to see what's about to bone him in the arse.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 09:19 PM (oia+s)
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First date: pretend you are a couple shopping for high-end cars.
Test drive some nice wheels.
Then pretend to have a horrible fight in the parking lot.
Test drive some nice wheels.
Then pretend to have a horrible fight in the parking lot.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (MQEz6)
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A little post-hypnotic suggestion whispered in her ear and . . . RAPE!
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (Doh4+)
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Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (IqV8l)
Send each other pictures of their junk?
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (IqV8l)
Send each other pictures of their junk?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (Dj0WE)
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"It is the formula for kinetic energy (energy of motion). E is the energy, m is the mass, a v is the velocity. The equation tells you that the energy is linearly affected my the mass, but exponentially affected by the velocity.
So, something small going really fast hurts like something big going kinda slow."
It's why a 7.62x25 Tokarev round which is only about 85gr can hit you with the same energy as a .45ACP at 230gr.
So, something small going really fast hurts like something big going kinda slow."
It's why a 7.62x25 Tokarev round which is only about 85gr can hit you with the same energy as a .45ACP at 230gr.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (ptqRm)
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Visit a Psychic
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Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
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Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (Nwg0u)
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If Terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, why do they want to attack during Ramadan?
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (9JISm)
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Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (IqV8l)
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Duh! Their moms drive them around!
Pthhatt!, people under 30 don't even drive anymore....
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT
Do they levitate from place to place?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (IqV8l)
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Duh! Their moms drive them around!
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (xVgrA)
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Why are all the media types referring to "the holy month of Ramadan"
It's just Ramadan
When referring to Mohommed will they say "peace be upon him"?
Why are all the media types referring to "the holy month of Ramadan"
It's just Ramadan
When referring to Mohommed will they say "peace be upon him"?
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (zOTsN)
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We're behind, but we've got four months to go. No time for denial, but also no time for pessimism. Just fight. Fight is all there's ever time for. I gave the dude $75.00 in the last four days. I'll be manning the phones when the time comes, too.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (yW9sk)
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Knowing Trump's campaign, there won't be any organization of volunteers to even man the phone banks. He isn't running a real campaign.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 08:57 PM (yW9sk)
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Knowing Trump's campaign, there won't be any organization of volunteers to even man the phone banks. He isn't running a real campaign.
Posted by: beegs at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (cxyn3)
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The point was well made above that free/global trade helps everyone in general but hurts some people in particular.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (rwI+c)
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Dr Gorka on Kelley right now. I love listening to him.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (g91ie)
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Sebastian Gorka on Fox
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (zOTsN)
340
321 Cato, doing good. Just living my life. And that's about all I can do at this crazy moment in time!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (9plvG)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (L7t0A)
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Oscar Madison - "Is everybody happy?!!"
Posted by: Corona at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (ragzU)
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>>Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
Say what you want about that crazy bitch, she was proactive.
Say what you want about that crazy bitch, she was proactive.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (9JISm)
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Phil Hartman?
Posted by: Corona at June 28, 2016 09:22 PM (ragzU)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (Nwg0u)
That's terrible. Both she and the physic were being controlled by the one who wants to kill, steal and destroy.
That's terrible. Both she and the physic were being controlled by the one who wants to kill, steal and destroy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:22 PM (frf5f)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 09:22 PM (MQEz6)
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327 What I find interesting about a Hillary Clinton Administration is that she will be ruthless in how she goes about deconstructing Barry Obama's legacy.
She is Barry's worst enemy, and he's to fucking stupid to see what's about to bone him in the arse.
It's the only decent thing that Queen FUPA will ever do as president.
She is Barry's worst enemy, and he's to fucking stupid to see what's about to bone him in the arse.
It's the only decent thing that Queen FUPA will ever do as president.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:22 PM (89T5c)
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First date: movie. But don't do the "hole in the bottom" gag with the industrial supersize popcorn. Or the nachos.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:22 PM (dSuDi)
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Visit a Psychic
Good idea. Take your date to a psychic, verify the psychic's bona fides, then cold cock the psychic. Hey psychic, didn't see THAT coming, didja?
Good idea. Take your date to a psychic, verify the psychic's bona fides, then cold cock the psychic. Hey psychic, didn't see THAT coming, didja?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:23 PM (oKE6c)
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"I have to confess: I'm starting to get depressed. Not so much that Trump will lose, but that Hillary will win."
Don't sweat it. It'll be Trump in a cake walk.
Don't sweat it. It'll be Trump in a cake walk.
Posted by: Random Thought Generator at June 28, 2016 09:23 PM (AyOYp)
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Isis wants the EU to break up? Well, finally something I actually agree with them about.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (g91ie)
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Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a
divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on
him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
On the bright side, his bunny is OK.
divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on
him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
On the bright side, his bunny is OK.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (oKE6c)
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Duh! Their moms drive them around!
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (xVgrA)
That's true. I have a friend whose son doesn't have his license yet. He's 19 and she' s taking him to his summer job and back home again every weekday. I think she started charging him for the rides.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (xVgrA)
That's true. I have a friend whose son doesn't have his license yet. He's 19 and she' s taking him to his summer job and back home again every weekday. I think she started charging him for the rides.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (frf5f)
354
Knowing Trump's campaign, there won't be any organization of volunteers to even man the phone banks. He isn't running a real campaign.
________________________________
Okay.
Well, he'll have me.
That said, he does need to change some things about his campaign. Namely, he needs to start running attack ads.
________________________________
Okay.
Well, he'll have me.
That said, he does need to change some things about his campaign. Namely, he needs to start running attack ads.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (yW9sk)
355
Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
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Say what you want about that crazy bitch, she was proactive.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (9JISm)
I'm getting misty-eyed from the romance.
Except, it was a lawyer, so clearly she was insane.
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Say what you want about that crazy bitch, she was proactive.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:21 PM (9JISm)
I'm getting misty-eyed from the romance.
Except, it was a lawyer, so clearly she was insane.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (Dj0WE)
356
>>I'm a picnic person. So I think a picnic in a scenic setting is the perfect first date.
If you do it in Central Park, say hello to the rats for me.
'Let's have a picnic in the Park!', she said.
"Sure. But you aren't gonna like what happens," I replied.
If you do it in Central Park, say hello to the rats for me.
'Let's have a picnic in the Park!', she said.
"Sure. But you aren't gonna like what happens," I replied.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:24 PM (9JISm)
357
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (KCxzN)
358
Every single day I wake up, and my first thought is, "I wonder what fresh hell today?"
Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (1ZOkK)
LOL. Me too.
Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:40 PM (1ZOkK)
LOL. Me too.
Posted by: O. W. Kenobi at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (KDTCE)
359
Why would Hillary want to deconstruct Obama's legacy and how would she do it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (frf5f)
360
291 Put not your faith in princes. Plans are overcome by events. Larger forces are at work. None of us know the future
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (zOTsN)
This.
No one can reliably predict politics beyond an election cycle or so much less predict the future.
And note that most doom-and-gloom scenarios are based solely on white swan events and never even consider the possibility of gray or black swan events.
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:12 PM (zOTsN)
This.
No one can reliably predict politics beyond an election cycle or so much less predict the future.
And note that most doom-and-gloom scenarios are based solely on white swan events and never even consider the possibility of gray or black swan events.
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (pAlYe)
361
I can only protect my family and our interests as best I can. Be ready in all ways
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2016 09:26 PM (p2X2f)
363
Sentences like that make my head hurt. Not one word of your statement is true, including the 'and' and 'the' and 'then'.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (tuvxV)
So why should we double down on something that isn't working? Because all I'm hearing from the economic "experts" is pretty much a rehashing of failed Keynesian theories and ideas. They've never worked and they're not about to start working.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:17 PM (tuvxV)
So why should we double down on something that isn't working? Because all I'm hearing from the economic "experts" is pretty much a rehashing of failed Keynesian theories and ideas. They've never worked and they're not about to start working.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:26 PM (J+mig)
364
Hubby and I have both decided if the Hildebeast wins we will unplug and just go on as best we can. I will have given up at that point. The country will be lost forever. I feel bad for my kids and grandkids though 
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (CNHr1)
365
He isn't running a real campaign
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He is running a low risk, high reward campaign. He is campaigning like a populist, going right to the people. He isn't spending much money. He recognizes that people are upset, and he is taking their side. He could win, which would be a big deal. He could lose, but wouldn't lose all that much.
Classic entrepreneur.
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He is running a low risk, high reward campaign. He is campaigning like a populist, going right to the people. He isn't spending much money. He recognizes that people are upset, and he is taking their side. He could win, which would be a big deal. He could lose, but wouldn't lose all that much.
Classic entrepreneur.
Posted by: Twemblie Gainesless at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (BsUcn)
366
How many more will be slaughtered to appease the Mohammed Moon Good from Hell?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (89T5c)
367
Problem is we don't have "free" trade. Overseas wages, government subsidies, monetary shenanigans, unions and retail outlets here but not there means a race to the bottom and cheap prices at Wallyworld. More crap for people with too much crap anyways.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (ej1L0)
368
And when I find I am overly stressed about the larger events in the world, pray. Go to religious services. It provides comfort and a reminder of our place in the world
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (zOTsN)
369
Hey everybody.
I'm not so depressed as, as I've mentioned earlier, the College Repubs at UC Irvine completely crushed the SJW admins there, getting their full rights back after a bogus year-long suspension.
I *am* weirded out however a bit... I wrote a tweet excoriating the local alt-rag, OC Weekly, for completely ignoring the story. So what happens? OC Weekly *liked* the tweet. Hmmm...
I'm not so depressed as, as I've mentioned earlier, the College Repubs at UC Irvine completely crushed the SJW admins there, getting their full rights back after a bogus year-long suspension.
I *am* weirded out however a bit... I wrote a tweet excoriating the local alt-rag, OC Weekly, for completely ignoring the story. So what happens? OC Weekly *liked* the tweet. Hmmm...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 28, 2016 09:28 PM (q7T0y)
370
Many years ago, an attorney acquaintance of mine was shot and killed by a divorce client who then killed herself. Turns out she had a crush on him and a psychic told her they'd be together in the afterlife.
Gee, I wonder how come she was involved in the divorce court system.
Gee, I wonder how come she was involved in the divorce court system.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 09:28 PM (6FqZa)
371
How many more will be slaughtered to appease the Mohammed Moon Good from Hell?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
All'a 'em.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
All'a 'em.
Posted by: Yer Friendly Neighborhood Moon God at June 28, 2016 09:28 PM (p2X2f)
Posted by: John Browning at June 28, 2016 09:28 PM (Zu3d9)
373
"285
First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
Take her to my next armed robbery, then?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (rvCve)"
It is a shared bonding experience and it helps finance the rest of the evening.
First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
Take her to my next armed robbery, then?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 28, 2016 09:11 PM (rvCve)"
It is a shared bonding experience and it helps finance the rest of the evening.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 28, 2016 09:28 PM (QHgTq)
374
Go away damn sock.
Posted by: Blano at June 28, 2016 09:29 PM (KDTCE)
375
And don't be afraid to unplug, go outside, meet with friends. Don't get trapped in the news cycle
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:29 PM (zOTsN)
376
He isn't running a real campaign
__________
He's certainly not running a traditional campaign. Whether he's running an effective one remains to be seen. As indicated the other night, he's either an idiot or a genius who's rewriting the campaigning rule book. I guess we'll find out.
__________
He's certainly not running a traditional campaign. Whether he's running an effective one remains to be seen. As indicated the other night, he's either an idiot or a genius who's rewriting the campaigning rule book. I guess we'll find out.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:29 PM (oKE6c)
377
@368 I go to my church and I come away with the feeling sometimes that we are winning.
I know that politics will not save us.
I know that politics will not save us.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2016 09:30 PM (2Ocf1)
378
Masturbate vigorously, do laundry, take naps.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:30 PM (dSuDi)
379
>>don't be afraid to unplug, go outside, meet with friends.
Fuck that.
It's hot outside and my friends are mostly assholes.
Fuck that.
It's hot outside and my friends are mostly assholes.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:30 PM (9JISm)
380
Problem is we don't have "free" trade. Overseas wages, government subsidies, monetary shenanigans, unions and retail outlets here but not there means a race to the bottom and cheap prices at Wallyworld. More crap for people with too much crap anyways.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (ej1L0)
You can't say that out loud. Some people learned as undergrads, the Might Market is never wrong, and as a matter of religious principle, if you say otherwise you will be cast into the fires of hades, you heathen you.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 09:27 PM (ej1L0)
You can't say that out loud. Some people learned as undergrads, the Might Market is never wrong, and as a matter of religious principle, if you say otherwise you will be cast into the fires of hades, you heathen you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (Dj0WE)
381
>>>Why would Hillary want to deconstruct Obama's legacy and how would she do it?<<<
All of Barry's failures were his alone, and all of his supposed triumphs were the result of Hillary's singular brilliance.
Barry's third term will be his bestest evar!
All of Barry's failures were his alone, and all of his supposed triumphs were the result of Hillary's singular brilliance.
Barry's third term will be his bestest evar!
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (oia+s)
382
It's like clockwork. Musta just got the GOPe check. Now back to the regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by: jacke at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (i8Shl)
383
Some oncoming events seem to have their own energy or dark angel shepherding them. Look at WWII and Hitler. Some nobody painter and a band of losers from a broken nation ended up coming rather close to conquering the world.
It seems to be Hillary's turn to be the next tyrant we have to deal with.
It seems to be Hillary's turn to be the next tyrant we have to deal with.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (hVdx9)
384
No one can reliably predict politics beyond an election cycle or so much less predict the future.///
Que Sera Sera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc
Que Sera Sera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (wfv0g)
385
A moron advice column for how to deal with stress would be hilarious
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (zOTsN)
386
Breezing in at #378. Hello, everybody.
I'd be horribly depressed if Hillary won, but I don't necessarily think she's going to.
Breezing in at #378. Hello, everybody.
I'd be horribly depressed if Hillary won, but I don't necessarily think she's going to.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (5o5ek)
387
Probably a good idea not to masturbate vigorously while doing laundry unless you masturbate before you put the clothes in the washer. Ewwwww.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (frf5f)
388
I guess we'll find out.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:29 PM (oKE6c)
The upside is moderate, but the downside is awful beyond compare.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:29 PM (oKE6c)
The upside is moderate, but the downside is awful beyond compare.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (Zu3d9)
389
364 Jewell, my hubby and I have had a good couple years without too much drama, but we will leave this hellhole nv in a minute if that bitch wins, just saying. I see the end for NV, it's gone from a independent state leaning conservative, into a pretty serious hellhole, and I have lived my adult life here, but just done if she wins
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (9plvG)
390
#316, they ride bikes, Uber, or walk. Using technology to communicate rather than in person and young people being dirt poor (blowing all their cash on technology products instead of cars) has that effect.
Plus many people, myself included, hate driving now because every fucking idiot is on their phone, drunk, or an illegal alien, and being crashed into 3-4 times a year by morons followed up by insurance rape gets old really fast.
Plus many people, myself included, hate driving now because every fucking idiot is on their phone, drunk, or an illegal alien, and being crashed into 3-4 times a year by morons followed up by insurance rape gets old really fast.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (r6ujM)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (Zu3d9)
392
lousagirl, where are you in Nevada?
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (q7T0y)
393
359 Why would Hillary want to deconstruct Obama's legacy and how would she do it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (frf5f)
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It will depend on the best way to make the greatest amount of money.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:25 PM (frf5f)
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It will depend on the best way to make the greatest amount of money.
Posted by: MTF at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (/m8T6)
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (9JISm)
395
Remember: all trolls are Average Joe, who sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
396
Posted by: The Masks Are Off at June 28, 2016 09:31 PM (j1B+B)
Perhaps you could go and masturbate on your wet blanket and then throw it in the washer.
Perhaps you could go and masturbate on your wet blanket and then throw it in the washer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (frf5f)
397
378 Masturbate vigorously, do laundry, take naps.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:30 PM (dSuDi)
________________
Now that's a first date!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:30 PM (dSuDi)
________________
Now that's a first date!
Posted by: Oschisms at June 28, 2016 09:34 PM (ZsN9X)
398
Hillary is a paper tigermedusa.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 09:34 PM (7lVbc)
399
"AVENGE ME!!!"
Believe it or not, even here in the SF Bay Area, I found myself behind a pickup truck with a bumper sticker bearing the likeness of Reagan, and those very words.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 09:15 PM (noWW6)
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Zombie is going to blow her cover if she keeps that up.
"AVENGE ME!!!"
Believe it or not, even here in the SF Bay Area, I found myself behind a pickup truck with a bumper sticker bearing the likeness of Reagan, and those very words.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 09:15 PM (noWW6)
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Zombie is going to blow her cover if she keeps that up.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 28, 2016 09:34 PM (KlVdw)
400
>>Do you fvck farm animals?
Wait, is that a date idea or a way to unwind? This thread is moving too fast!
Wait, is that a date idea or a way to unwind? This thread is moving too fast!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:34 PM (dSuDi)
401
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
Some trolls are amusing-and some are annoying and some are just weird.
Some trolls are amusing-and some are annoying and some are just weird.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (frf5f)
402
>>First date should be exciting. Humans associate danger with attraction.
How about a walk?
In Deerborn.
How about a walk?
In Deerborn.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (9JISm)
403
>>As indicated the other night, he's either an idiot or a genius who's rewriting the campaigning rule book. I guess we'll find out.
No matter what happens this election, I'm not counting on it as some new thing. This is a pretty unique time, a populist time, and it's happening everywhere. It's not just an Arab Spring it's a Western Spring right now.
This is the perfect time for Trump and he is incredibly lucky in his competition. I doubt he or anyone like him will be the model for elections going forward.
No matter what happens this election, I'm not counting on it as some new thing. This is a pretty unique time, a populist time, and it's happening everywhere. It's not just an Arab Spring it's a Western Spring right now.
This is the perfect time for Trump and he is incredibly lucky in his competition. I doubt he or anyone like him will be the model for elections going forward.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
404
Remember: all trolls are Average Joe, who sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
Mid-evening trolls are boring as all get-out.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 28, 2016 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
Mid-evening trolls are boring as all get-out.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (Dj0WE)
405
Lousagirl.. where are thinking of going? I hear Costa Rica is nice.. lol. Shit we can't move.. not enough money and hubby wouldn't do it. Me?? eh.. maybe if I was single I would consider it. Not much we can do except ride out the storm.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (CNHr1)
406
Another lie that the economists and conventional wisdom have given us (built on The Depression, again) is that deflation is death and inflation is life. That is just crazy talk that any person can see is total bullshit with just 12 seconds of thinking about it. Technology is a highly deflationary field (and always has been) and, yet, people spend on technology just as they do on things that are inflationary. Yes, all know that any computer we buy will be considered slow and expensive within a year ... but that doesn't stop us from buying computers when we need them and not worrying about the deflationary aspect of the field.
It isn't absolute inflation or deflation that really affects decisions over time but changes in inflation that do it. Once the level is stable - inflationary or deflationary, within reason, of course - all adjust and just carry on with their lives and purchases as usual.
But we have allowed ourselves to be duped into this financial myth so that we have had constant inflation (as our goal!) for decades. Such policy rots the currency (which is exceedingly dangerous) and forces "adjustments" in law to many things that are based on dollars (which then don't get readjusted because ... that's how government is) and ends up making a mockery of law, itself. But, the EVIL of deflation and the pure good of inflation are what we are convinced of, never mind all the destruction this policy wreaks on everything around it. And now these same geniuses are pushing the hard sell on negative interest rates. ... Okey doke.
There's a lot of conventional wisdom that is exceedingly unwise.
It isn't absolute inflation or deflation that really affects decisions over time but changes in inflation that do it. Once the level is stable - inflationary or deflationary, within reason, of course - all adjust and just carry on with their lives and purchases as usual.
But we have allowed ourselves to be duped into this financial myth so that we have had constant inflation (as our goal!) for decades. Such policy rots the currency (which is exceedingly dangerous) and forces "adjustments" in law to many things that are based on dollars (which then don't get readjusted because ... that's how government is) and ends up making a mockery of law, itself. But, the EVIL of deflation and the pure good of inflation are what we are convinced of, never mind all the destruction this policy wreaks on everything around it. And now these same geniuses are pushing the hard sell on negative interest rates. ... Okey doke.
There's a lot of conventional wisdom that is exceedingly unwise.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (dSuDi)
408
390
364 Jewell, my hubby and I have had a good couple years without too much
drama, but we will leave this hellhole nv in a minute if that bitch
wins, just saying. I see the end for NV, it's gone from a independent
state leaning conservative, into a pretty serious hellhole, and I have
lived my adult life here, but just done if she wins
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (9plvG)
Come to Texas. The writing was on the wall in Florida, the state got hit by the housing bubble the same way Nevada did, and the economy never recovered. Been here three years and have never even had the slightest regret over having moved.
364 Jewell, my hubby and I have had a good couple years without too much
drama, but we will leave this hellhole nv in a minute if that bitch
wins, just saying. I see the end for NV, it's gone from a independent
state leaning conservative, into a pretty serious hellhole, and I have
lived my adult life here, but just done if she wins
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:32 PM (9plvG)
Come to Texas. The writing was on the wall in Florida, the state got hit by the housing bubble the same way Nevada did, and the economy never recovered. Been here three years and have never even had the slightest regret over having moved.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (J+mig)
409
Just think after Hillary they have the evil spawn prepared to step in . Chelsea ,that is.
Posted by: ting hung lo at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (xZc4z)
410
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (9JISm)
I lived in Michigan a long time ago when I was a wee lad. Dearborn was a destination.
I think there was a Ford museum or something fantastically fun for a five-year-old.
I lived in Michigan a long time ago when I was a wee lad. Dearborn was a destination.
I think there was a Ford museum or something fantastically fun for a five-year-old.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:37 PM (Zu3d9)
411
No amount of money or power will fill the empty place in Hillary's soul and she may get what she wants as far as being President and find it turns to ashes for her or like some 2017 version of the Midas touch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:37 PM (frf5f)
412
It was Williard or the communist-trained, narcissistic turd-burglar. And in four years, he proved that he could fuck up a one car funeral.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:37 PM (89T5c)
413
Fuuuck...it wasn't a hoax. Scotty moore did die
RIP.
With EC -
Mystery Train :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkB01E5sR64
RIP.
With EC -
Mystery Train :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkB01E5sR64
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:38 PM (9JISm)
414
For a first date make sure the meet up is in a well lit room. Focus on her eyes.... Always. If her pupils dialate right when y'all meet, then go ahead and kiss her.
Women are used to guys being pussies and want a man to take them.
So her pupils dilate when y'all meet, go in for the kiss immediately. You may get invited back early to cook dinner at your place or hers.
It is a risky move but it does work. It shows confidence. It pays dividends later because she will tell her friends and unless you plan on marrying this girl, her friends are a good thing.
Or you could start a illicit drug habit together and form a relationship that way.
Women are used to guys being pussies and want a man to take them.
So her pupils dilate when y'all meet, go in for the kiss immediately. You may get invited back early to cook dinner at your place or hers.
It is a risky move but it does work. It shows confidence. It pays dividends later because she will tell her friends and unless you plan on marrying this girl, her friends are a good thing.
Or you could start a illicit drug habit together and form a relationship that way.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 09:38 PM (hNICT)
415
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
Cruz has the intellect and the iconoclastic temperament, but not the charisma or the balls.
But the style has value, and I think we will see some variation of it sooner rather than later.
Cruz has the intellect and the iconoclastic temperament, but not the charisma or the balls.
But the style has value, and I think we will see some variation of it sooner rather than later.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:39 PM (Zu3d9)
416
Is the chloroform before or after introductions? It's been a while...
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:39 PM (dSuDi)
417
You're right Ace. The buffoon has no chance. He's never had a chance. Democrat and moderate voters will combine with low information idiots to vote for the "sensible choice" in Clinton. They don't care about Benghazi. They don't care about the emails. They don't care about shit except on demand abortions, gun control, and willfully denying reality when it comes to terrorism. And Trump comes off as nothing but a charlatan. I'm getting tired of hearing "at least Trump cares about this country," etc. Like hell he does. He's a salesman and he's telling y'all what you want to hear. The election was over for me when Cruz cropped out. But I'll probably vote Trump (well maybe, I don't want a pro choice vote on my hands) because my mother might actually have an aneurysm is Hillary wins. I'm not sure I can take the torment either way. SSIIIIIGGHHHH. It's been a bad day.
Posted by: Kat at June 28, 2016 09:40 PM (OUwBH)
418
It's not just an Arab Spring it's a Western Spring right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
I really dislike any comparisons of sane, civilized peoples to the "Arab Spring". The "Arab Spring" BS had nothing to do with anything that's happening in the West.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
I really dislike any comparisons of sane, civilized peoples to the "Arab Spring". The "Arab Spring" BS had nothing to do with anything that's happening in the West.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:40 PM (L7t0A)
419
We, collectively, should really stop giving dating advice
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 09:40 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:40 PM (zOTsN)
421
What to do on a first date?
Why, poison the pigeons in the park of course!
http://tinyurl.com/lpbtpuf
Why, poison the pigeons in the park of course!
http://tinyurl.com/lpbtpuf
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 28, 2016 09:40 PM (tEDMc)
422
This is the perfect time for Trump and he is
incredibly lucky in his competition. I doubt he or anyone like him will
be the model for elections going forward.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
You may be right. I was thinking of his ability to gain visibility not by buying air time, but rather by putting himself front and center in the news cycle day after day by attacking his opponent clearly and unambiguously. If it works, it obviates the need for a lot of money, and I hope becomes a model that others follow (looking significantly at the GOP). It's not possible to "nice" your way into office nowadays.
incredibly lucky in his competition. I doubt he or anyone like him will
be the model for elections going forward.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 09:35 PM (/tuJf)
You may be right. I was thinking of his ability to gain visibility not by buying air time, but rather by putting himself front and center in the news cycle day after day by attacking his opponent clearly and unambiguously. If it works, it obviates the need for a lot of money, and I hope becomes a model that others follow (looking significantly at the GOP). It's not possible to "nice" your way into office nowadays.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:41 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:41 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Deno at June 28, 2016 09:41 PM (V/hz5)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:41 PM (1ijHg)
426
Cruz has the intellect and the iconoclastic temperament, but not the charisma or the balls.
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Post modern voters will never vote for someone with that voice. Has to be baritone; manly, masculin, hollywood baritone.
Look at Lurch. Sure, he is always second or third fiddle, but he is always in the band.
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Post modern voters will never vote for someone with that voice. Has to be baritone; manly, masculin, hollywood baritone.
Look at Lurch. Sure, he is always second or third fiddle, but he is always in the band.
Posted by: Twemblie Gainesless at June 28, 2016 09:41 PM (BsUcn)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:42 PM (MNgU2)
428
How many more will be slaughtered to appease the Mohammed Moon Good from Hell?
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How many you got?
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How many you got?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:42 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 09:42 PM (MQEz6)
430
Boy, Ace has some rent free space in someone's head.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 28, 2016 09:43 PM (hVdx9)
431
Trump will win in November. Don't believe Wash. Post polls with +10 Democrats and Rino Manhattan Republicans salted into the poll. Trump wins Pennsy, Ohio Florida Nevada N.Carolina, Iowa, N.H, and others. Clinton Wins Cal, Illinois, NY, Massachusetts .Hell, Trump Has a shot in NJ & CT.
Posted by: Blogforce one at June 28, 2016 09:43 PM (vsWG2)
432
We, collectively, should really stop giving dating advice
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We did good giving advice to LizLem on meeting his parents for the first time. She only got kicked out of the place so technically it wasn't a ban BAN. /***snort***lol/
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We did good giving advice to LizLem on meeting his parents for the first time. She only got kicked out of the place so technically it wasn't a ban BAN. /***snort***lol/
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (5o5ek)
434
What does the NQ in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (frf5f)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (p2X2f)
436
Schools out
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (zOTsN)
437
Cheer up Ace, they've invented a new sport. It's got congas apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9On7ZylR3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9On7ZylR3k
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (ry34m)
438
Kaylee Hartung is mega cute.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (syGA0)
439
Enough with the depressive bullshit. Remember, as I keep telling y'all,we are Americans, so that head is held HIGH.
You know who the nominee is going to be, so WORK HIM.
Trump may well be the beginning of our recovery.
But know this, we WILL prevail, because as Americans the option of failure is denied us.
Even a cursory glance at our history will bear that out.
Enough with the depressive bullshit. Remember, as I keep telling y'all,we are Americans, so that head is held HIGH.
You know who the nominee is going to be, so WORK HIM.
Trump may well be the beginning of our recovery.
But know this, we WILL prevail, because as Americans the option of failure is denied us.
Even a cursory glance at our history will bear that out.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (X35Yt)
440
No Quarter
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (89T5c)
441
Trump Has a shot in NJ CT.
Posted by: Blogforce one at June 28, 2016 09:43 PM (vsWG2)
Then you have no idea what NJ and Ct are....
Posted by: Blogforce one at June 28, 2016 09:43 PM (vsWG2)
Then you have no idea what NJ and Ct are....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (Zu3d9)
442
There's a lot of conventional wisdom that is exceedingly unwise.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (L7t0A)
Yup...the economy is like a living thing. It should grow, stabilize, then decay in a normal cycle which it tended to do prior to 1929. But the "great" depression forever empowered the politicians to do anything as long it gives the appearance of "progress" and "growth" and "moving forward" from fear born out of the 1930's.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 09:36 PM (L7t0A)
Yup...the economy is like a living thing. It should grow, stabilize, then decay in a normal cycle which it tended to do prior to 1929. But the "great" depression forever empowered the politicians to do anything as long it gives the appearance of "progress" and "growth" and "moving forward" from fear born out of the 1930's.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (VxHD9)
444
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:39 PM (Zu3d9)
He has balls bigger than any of them. Who else would campaign in Iowa against subsidies?
He has balls bigger than any of them. Who else would campaign in Iowa against subsidies?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (MNgU2)
445
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM (xVgrA)
What? What happened to Lizlem meeting the boyfriend's parents?; I missed the update.
What? What happened to Lizlem meeting the boyfriend's parents?; I missed the update.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (frf5f)
446
434: Next Question
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2016 09:46 PM (syGA0)
447
NQ= Next Question.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at June 28, 2016 09:46 PM (INpWu)
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:46 PM (9JISm)
449
>>>What to do on a first date?<<<
Damn, I always thought it was pay her monthly auto statement, her utility, and rent. Petrol and cigarettes are optional.
Damn, I always thought it was pay her monthly auto statement, her utility, and rent. Petrol and cigarettes are optional.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (oia+s)
450
What does the NQ in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by:
FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM
Next Question
Posted by:
FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:44 PM
Next Question
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (KCxzN)
451
You could win by a 30 point margin in CT even if you ran the Son of Sam and put a D after his name.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Kenny Banya at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (9JISm)
453
Question --
When buying cotton shorts do you always get one size larger?
Do they always shrink in the wash?
When buying cotton shorts do you always get one size larger?
Do they always shrink in the wash?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (qUNWi)
454
277
Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a
history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of
protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free
markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies
invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does
know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes
his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems'
immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the
primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
You're making an awfully big assumption that 2500-page "free trade deals" really enhance free trade. Sort of like believing a 2500-page "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" actually will protect patients or make healthcare more affordable. You can do an honest deal in a page with a handshake -- 2500-page deals are most often swindles.
Smoot-Hawley. If you say that to anyone who has bothered to read a
history book, they'll know you're talking about the dangers of
protectionism. They'll understand you're making a point about free
markets. They'll get that you're saying protectionist policies
invariably backfire, and hurt the people you're trying to help.
Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this so I'll assume he does
know this and is promoting protectionist policies because he believes
his supporters will eat this shit up. Remember his 'No Moslems'
immigration policy idea? He's backtracking on that now that the
primaries are over. He'll backtrack on this, too. He'll have to.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
You're making an awfully big assumption that 2500-page "free trade deals" really enhance free trade. Sort of like believing a 2500-page "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" actually will protect patients or make healthcare more affordable. You can do an honest deal in a page with a handshake -- 2500-page deals are most often swindles.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (EzgxV)
455
>>>> We did good giving advice to LizLem on meeting his parents for the first time. She only got kicked out of the place so technically it wasn't a ban BAN. /***snort***lol/
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:44
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Hey lindafell. Dangit! I miss everything good. I like Lizlem. I hope it went well for her despite all the bad advice you guys gave her.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:44
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Hey lindafell. Dangit! I miss everything good. I like Lizlem. I hope it went well for her despite all the bad advice you guys gave her.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (6IPEM)
456
No Quiffs?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (qUNWi)
457
277 ----Trump, an Amherst graduate, should know this
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
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He is not an Amherst graduate.
Posted by: troyriser at June 28, 2016 09:09 PM (tuvxV)
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He is not an Amherst graduate.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (T/5A0)
458
This would be a good time for Alex or Zero H. to bring up that Donald is a Red Flag for Hillary.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (X0SOM)
459
Hot Air has turned into a full on shill site for Hillary
Posted by: Deno at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (V/hz5)
460
The 'media' has one job. Or maybe three.
1. Allow no hurt or harm to come to ubama.
2. Destroy any and all conservatives.
3. Elect hellary.
1. Allow no hurt or harm to come to ubama.
2. Destroy any and all conservatives.
3. Elect hellary.
Posted by: Eromero at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (zLDYs)
461
You can do an honest deal in a page with a handshake -- 2500-page deals are most often swindles.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (EzgxV)
Past a certain point, complexity is fraud.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 09:47 PM (EzgxV)
Past a certain point, complexity is fraud.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (J+mig)
462
A moron advice column for how to deal with stress would be hilarious
Is there something besides noise therapy?
Is there something besides noise therapy?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (rwI+c)
463
Let's not kid ourselves. First dates are first and foremost about do I want to have sex with this person. If yes, then how soon. If no, how long should I pretend to get free shit or pay for a companion who is a girl without sex.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 09:48 PM (hNICT)
464
FenelonSpoke,
She said it went great and they were nice. I think all our "advice" helped to get her mind off her nervousness. If it were me, I probably would have been giggling like a hyena at inappropriate times thinking about all the "advice."
She said it went great and they were nice. I think all our "advice" helped to get her mind off her nervousness. If it were me, I probably would have been giggling like a hyena at inappropriate times thinking about all the "advice."
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (xVgrA)
465
That korfball video gave me a seizure.
Posted by: irright at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (XfEYT)
466
Both George Will and Charles Krauthammer are beyond their expiration dates.
I used to think Kraut was savvy.
Now I think he is just an old fart that doesn't know shit.
I used to think Kraut was savvy.
Now I think he is just an old fart that doesn't know shit.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (1ijHg)
467
444 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 28, 2016 09:39 PM (Zu3d9)
He has balls bigger than any of them. Who else would campaign in Iowa against subsidies?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (MNgU2)
That wasn't balls. That was just stupid.
The way to handle that would be to say that subsidies generally hurt the economy, and hurt America, and that he knew that they - as good Americans - would support him in reviewing ALL subsidies. Impute patriotism to them, imply that their subsidies might be on the table, and let it go at that.
He has balls bigger than any of them. Who else would campaign in Iowa against subsidies?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (MNgU2)
That wasn't balls. That was just stupid.
The way to handle that would be to say that subsidies generally hurt the economy, and hurt America, and that he knew that they - as good Americans - would support him in reviewing ALL subsidies. Impute patriotism to them, imply that their subsidies might be on the table, and let it go at that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (oKE6c)
468
Jewell & Cato, thinking good thoughts. We Love our life right now, and we have faith. But OK is where we go if she wins. I just want my grandbabies to have the life I've had. Been Blessed, that's for sure!!
Posted by: lousagirl at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (LXzYd)
469
Californication
My fellow citizens will elect no-death-penalty-for-cop-killers and Queen of Sanctuary Cities Kamala Harris to the Senate.
Then they'll elect Gavin Newscum, he of porking his best friend's wife fame, to be Governor.
The state where I was born and where I still live is f'd beyond repair. At least I'll be able to finance my retirement when I sell my property and move to Nevada. I'm thinking the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe, far from Searchlight.
My fellow citizens will elect no-death-penalty-for-cop-killers and Queen of Sanctuary Cities Kamala Harris to the Senate.
Then they'll elect Gavin Newscum, he of porking his best friend's wife fame, to be Governor.
The state where I was born and where I still live is f'd beyond repair. At least I'll be able to finance my retirement when I sell my property and move to Nevada. I'm thinking the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe, far from Searchlight.
Posted by: Hank at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (/vqyz)
470
So ... are you telling me we're not voting our way out of this ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (fiGNd)
471
Speaking of depressing, that fraternity's suit against Rolling Stone was dismissed. It seems liberals can lie about you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (Nwg0u)
472
//Enough with the depressive bullshit. Remember, as I keep telling y'all,we are Americans, so that head is held HIGH.
You know who the nominee is going to be, so WORK HIM.//
Hear hear!
Pessimism doesn't accomplish much. That's true *even when pessimism is arguably rational*.
We have a fight. Let's fight.
You know who the nominee is going to be, so WORK HIM.//
Hear hear!
Pessimism doesn't accomplish much. That's true *even when pessimism is arguably rational*.
We have a fight. Let's fight.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 09:50 PM (yW9sk)
473
I'd have been happier if Trump had focused more on regulations than trade as a way to restore prosperity, but I'm sure he'll get to that. He's touched on it already.
I'd have been happier if Trump had focused more on regulations than trade as a way to restore prosperity, but I'm sure he'll get to that. He's touched on it already.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:50 PM (5o5ek)
474
"Is there something besides noise therapy?"
Is that the same as recoil therapy?
Cause that works for me.
Is that the same as recoil therapy?
Cause that works for me.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2016 09:50 PM (ptqRm)
475
Both George Will and Charles Krauthammer are beyond their expiration dates.
***
The uniparty has corrupted so many people and things.
***
The uniparty has corrupted so many people and things.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2016 09:51 PM (pibXr)
476
Both George Will and Charles Krauthammer are beyond their expiration dates.
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Me too! Me too!
- Bill Krystal
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Me too! Me too!
- Bill Krystal
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:51 PM (Nwg0u)
477
>A moron advice column for how to deal with stress would be hilarious
>Is there something besides noise therapy?
Cantaloupe.
Condom.
3" Spade Bit.
Microwave.
Some assembly required.
>Is there something besides noise therapy?
Cantaloupe.
Condom.
3" Spade Bit.
Microwave.
Some assembly required.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:51 PM (9JISm)
478
Speaking of depressing, that fraternity's suit against Rolling Stone was dismissed. It seems liberals can lie about you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (Nwg0u)
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Fuck. There were some other suits, weren't there?
Speaking of depressing, that fraternity's suit against Rolling Stone was dismissed. It seems liberals can lie about you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (Nwg0u)
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Fuck. There were some other suits, weren't there?
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:52 PM (5o5ek)
479
Pessimism doesn't accomplish much. That's true *even when pessimism is arguably rational*.
We have a fight. Let's fight.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 09:50 PM (yW9sk)
Fighting is a lot more fun than moping. Be Breitbart. Fight. Learn to love the fight. Don't avoid confrontation, embrace it. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the wailing of the feminazis and pajama boys!
We have a fight. Let's fight.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 09:50 PM (yW9sk)
Fighting is a lot more fun than moping. Be Breitbart. Fight. Learn to love the fight. Don't avoid confrontation, embrace it. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the wailing of the feminazis and pajama boys!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:52 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (fiGNd)
481
Then they'll elect Gavin Newscum, he of porking his best friend's wife fame
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (frf5f)
482
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 09:49 PM (oKE6c)
That's exactly what he did. It's says something that you , a person who follows this stuff, didn't know that.
That's exactly what he did. It's says something that you , a person who follows this stuff, didn't know that.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (MNgU2)
483
So ... are you telling me we're not voting our way out of this ?
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Let me tell you a story. And don't let my cousin censor out the important parts.
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Let me tell you a story. And don't let my cousin censor out the important parts.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (pibXr)
484
Some assembly required.
Posted by: garrett///
Condom? What kinda farm are you getting your melons from?
Posted by: garrett///
Condom? What kinda farm are you getting your melons from?
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (wfv0g)
485
"Cantaloupe.
Condom.
3" Spade Bit.
Microwave.
Some assembly required."
Empty tuna can to core it.
Condom.
3" Spade Bit.
Microwave.
Some assembly required."
Empty tuna can to core it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (1ijHg)
487
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Must be ambisexual.
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Must be ambisexual.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (IqV8l)
488
Will, Krauthammer, Krystal, are Democrats without the pinko commie part.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (X0SOM)
489
My final hope: that the economic chaos sown by the Left will hit while the Left has power, and somehow despite the MFM the correct people will be blamed for the chaos.
Barack Obama is the food stamps President. Maybe Hillary will be the hyperinflation President, or the Collapse of the Entitlements President, or both at once.
When the "turnaround expert" (i.e. Romney) didn't get elected, that pretty much crushed my hopes that the economy wouldn't crash within my lifetime. Now I'm just hoping the right people get blamed, so that if the Republic survives, maybe for generations to come "tax and spend" liberalism will be remembered as the source of miseries.
That's the hope. When I'm depressed I figure someone will invent some game-changing technology (like cheap fusion power or molecular nanotechnology or something) during Hillary's first year and she will enjoy presiding over a new economic bubble (just like her husband presided over the Internet bubble). Low-information-voters would be singing the praises of the Clintons for decades. "All I need to know is that while Hillary was President, the economy boomed."
Barack Obama is the food stamps President. Maybe Hillary will be the hyperinflation President, or the Collapse of the Entitlements President, or both at once.
When the "turnaround expert" (i.e. Romney) didn't get elected, that pretty much crushed my hopes that the economy wouldn't crash within my lifetime. Now I'm just hoping the right people get blamed, so that if the Republic survives, maybe for generations to come "tax and spend" liberalism will be remembered as the source of miseries.
That's the hope. When I'm depressed I figure someone will invent some game-changing technology (like cheap fusion power or molecular nanotechnology or something) during Hillary's first year and she will enjoy presiding over a new economic bubble (just like her husband presided over the Internet bubble). Low-information-voters would be singing the praises of the Clintons for decades. "All I need to know is that while Hillary was President, the economy boomed."
Posted by: mr_jack at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (M59SC)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 09:54 PM (Nwg0u)
491
//Fighting is a lot more fun than moping. Be Breitbart. Fight. Learn to love the fight. Don't avoid confrontation, embrace it. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the wailing of the feminazis and pajama boys!//
Correct! And bravo! This is what is best in life, sir!
Correct! And bravo! This is what is best in life, sir!
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 28, 2016 09:55 PM (yW9sk)
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 09:55 PM (X0SOM)
493
First dates: do I want to have sex with this person?
Second date: will this person let me put my tongue/fingers /peepee in the no-no spot?
Third date: does this person have wealthy sickly relatives?
Fourth date: how much does this person know about me? Could they find me if they wanted?
Fifth date: have I left DNA evidence anywhere?
Second date: will this person let me put my tongue/fingers /peepee in the no-no spot?
Third date: does this person have wealthy sickly relatives?
Fourth date: how much does this person know about me? Could they find me if they wanted?
Fifth date: have I left DNA evidence anywhere?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 09:55 PM (dSuDi)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (1ijHg)
495
...The start of the civil war, the revolution, the first winter in the new world, etc.
Are these truly the worst of times??
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM
Yes. It's worse.
Sure, starvation, death, etc. suck compared to our present "food deserts" and seconds of internet downtime but at least the first winter in the new world, the revolution, and the civil war were the result of efforts to build something and assert our independence.
Now, all "effort" is toward enslaving ourselves further. I'd rather be starving, freezing, and full of bullet holes in the small hope that the next generation might be free instead of watching 24/7 news on my iPhone about how we will inevitably fail and march toward Idiocracy.
Are these truly the worst of times??
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM
Yes. It's worse.
Sure, starvation, death, etc. suck compared to our present "food deserts" and seconds of internet downtime but at least the first winter in the new world, the revolution, and the civil war were the result of efforts to build something and assert our independence.
Now, all "effort" is toward enslaving ourselves further. I'd rather be starving, freezing, and full of bullet holes in the small hope that the next generation might be free instead of watching 24/7 news on my iPhone about how we will inevitably fail and march toward Idiocracy.
Posted by: Damiano at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (71OEY)
496
Then what does the 'FY' in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
497
>>Condom? What kinda farm are you getting your melons from?
Just to be safe, you know?
In case you get hungry afterwards.
Just to be safe, you know?
In case you get hungry afterwards.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (9JISm)
498
Why do some of these polls ridiculously oversample Democrats? There's another reason aside from their potential to demoralize his supporters.
They provide Nevertrumpers an excuse for their intransigence.
If the Nevertrumpers believe that the race isn't close enough for their vote to affect the outcome, they'll feel more comfortable in withholding it from Trump out of protest, telling themselves that he would lose even if they supported him.
However the problem with thisis that polls like Rasmussen's reflecting accurate representations of party identificationshow about afive point race, with Trump drawing 70% of Republicans and Hillary drawing 80% of Democrats.
So in actuality, what the Nevertrumpers do could very well decide if there is a SCOTUS that preserves the Constitution, or one that annihilates it.
Why do some of these polls ridiculously oversample Democrats? There's another reason aside from their potential to demoralize his supporters.
They provide Nevertrumpers an excuse for their intransigence.
If the Nevertrumpers believe that the race isn't close enough for their vote to affect the outcome, they'll feel more comfortable in withholding it from Trump out of protest, telling themselves that he would lose even if they supported him.
However the problem with thisis that polls like Rasmussen's reflecting accurate representations of party identificationshow about afive point race, with Trump drawing 70% of Republicans and Hillary drawing 80% of Democrats.
So in actuality, what the Nevertrumpers do could very well decide if there is a SCOTUS that preserves the Constitution, or one that annihilates it.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (H6376)
499
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (frf5f)
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You might be thinking of that Huffington guy, Arianna's ex.
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
I thought Gavin was gay. He had sex with his best friend's wife and then came out as gay?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:53 PM (frf5f)
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You might be thinking of that Huffington guy, Arianna's ex.
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (NeFrd)
502
500
Be Breitbart?
Get killed young?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM (1ijHg)
Better to die young and free than live on your knees.
Be Breitbart?
Get killed young?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM (1ijHg)
Better to die young and free than live on your knees.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (J+mig)
503
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
Do you have a masochistic need for people to tell you what it means? ;^)
I mean, I know that you know.
Do you have a masochistic need for people to tell you what it means? ;^)
I mean, I know that you know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (frf5f)
Posted by: Dr. Lizardo at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (1ijHg)
505
Now, all "effort" is toward enslaving ourselves
further. I'd rather be starving, freezing, and full of bullet holes in
the small hope that the next generation might be free instead of
watching 24/7 news on my iPhone about how we will inevitably fail and
march toward Idiocracy.
Posted by: Damiano at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (71OEY)
This is still God's world. Nothing is inevitable until He says it is.
further. I'd rather be starving, freezing, and full of bullet holes in
the small hope that the next generation might be free instead of
watching 24/7 news on my iPhone about how we will inevitably fail and
march toward Idiocracy.
Posted by: Damiano at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (71OEY)
This is still God's world. Nothing is inevitable until He says it is.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (J+mig)
506
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
A Ghey Polygamist?
A Ghey Polygamist?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (rwI+c)
507
FYNQ
F*ck You, Next Question
F*ck You, Next Question
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (xVgrA)
508
'lauxesibma' looks weird until you look at it in your rear view mirror.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (NeFrd)
509
-
500
Be Breitbart?
Get killed young?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM
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It's the new "thing".
500
Be Breitbart?
Get killed young?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 09:57 PM
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It's the new "thing".
Posted by: Mike Flynn at June 28, 2016 09:59 PM (XfEYT)
510
Better to live on your feet than die on your knees.
Posted by: The Old Italian Guy at June 28, 2016 09:59 PM (rwI+c)
511
Better to die young and free than live on your knees.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
Because your knees go bad when you get old.
Better to die young and free than live on your knees.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party
Because your knees go bad when you get old.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 09:59 PM (IqV8l)
512
443 @414 ... Nothing dilates the pupils like a concussion.
Or Satanic possession.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (VxHD9
This is still Mystery Babylon..... I mean America right?
Or Satanic possession.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (VxHD9
This is still Mystery Babylon..... I mean America right?
Posted by: Jezebel, demon spirit of at June 28, 2016 09:59 PM (hNICT)
513
Isn't that when EMT's fool around on the job?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (NeFrd)
Boo, hiss! Dust off your rust there, man. Your sling blade needs oil.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (NeFrd)
Boo, hiss! Dust off your rust there, man. Your sling blade needs oil.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:00 PM (Dj0WE)
514
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
A Ghey Polygamist?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (rwI+c)
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Yeah, I looked at that sentence and I figured that might happen.
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
A Ghey Polygamist?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 09:58 PM (rwI+c)
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Yeah, I looked at that sentence and I figured that might happen.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:00 PM (5o5ek)
515
My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
516
We could probably start making a pretty big list of "conservatives" and republicans that are all in "take my ball and go home" mode because it's Trump and not Jeb or Rubio. But if it were either of those two of the polls were showing the same result would be yelling at us to sit down shut up and fall in line behind their amnesty loving big government stooge.
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
517
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
O.k. thanks for the correction. He's just a creep for betraying his friend.
O.k. thanks for the correction. He's just a creep for betraying his friend.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (frf5f)
518
>>My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Lesbians eat pussy!?
Lesbians eat pussy!?
Posted by: Her Cat at June 28, 2016 10:02 PM (9JISm)
519
Gavin Newsom gets identified with gays a lot maybe because he was the mayor of San Francisco and married a bunch of gays before it was legal.
and he sucks cock.
and he sucks cock.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 10:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:02 PM (NeFrd)
521
So, in other news, you do not want to take your daughter to a National Park. The long march of the Left through the institutions continues.
We pay for all this things. But they (the Left) make them so hideous to us that we refuse to use them.
We pay for all this things. But they (the Left) make them so hideous to us that we refuse to use them.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 10:02 PM (1ijHg)
522
We could probably start making a pretty big list of "conservatives" and republicans that are all in "take my ball and go home" mode because it's Trump and not Jeb or Rubio. But if it were either of those two of the polls were showing the same result would be yelling at us to sit down shut up and fall in line behind their amnesty loving big government stooge.
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
I was a neverjebber, and a nevermarioer... don't really care one whit if anyone wants to call me a hypocrite.
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
I was a neverjebber, and a nevermarioer... don't really care one whit if anyone wants to call me a hypocrite.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:03 PM (Dj0WE)
523
-
515
My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite
banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy
pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
-------------------------Absolutely.
515
My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite
banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy
pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
-------------------------Absolutely.
Posted by: Toxoplasma Gondii at June 28, 2016 10:03 PM (XfEYT)
524
The cat's mind is blown. Who knew you could get someone else to lick your genitals?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 10:03 PM (dSuDi)
525
He's just a creep for betraying his friend.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (frf5f)
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Yup. And the future governor of California.
He's just a creep for betraying his friend.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (frf5f)
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Yup. And the future governor of California.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:04 PM (5o5ek)
526
...female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
*****
Are you positing correlation or causation?
*****
Are you positing correlation or causation?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:04 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:04 PM (wfv0g)
528
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
Your think W should voice support for someone who called for his impeachment and during this campaign blamed him for letting 9/11 happen?
Keeping his thoughts to himself is going above and beyond of what one should expect.
Your think W should voice support for someone who called for his impeachment and during this campaign blamed him for letting 9/11 happen?
Keeping his thoughts to himself is going above and beyond of what one should expect.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:05 PM (MNgU2)
529
Trump has a natural appeal to the black and legal Hispanic working class if he can break through the Democrats' racialism.
People understand at a basic level that if we open the borders to any and all trade with the Third World, the standard of living of the American working class will decline. It doesn't matter how much you play around with tax rates. If you allow our factories to relocate to countries where they can pay a dollar a day in wages and no environmental and other regulatory requirements, and still say it's okay for them to freely sell their same products back into the same US market, of course manufacturing industry will relocate. It's a similar problem when we open the borders to massive Third World immigration - the wages of American workers will ultimately clear at something closer to Third World levels as wages are bid down.
The problem is not trade with Canada or Germany or France where they have comparable cost structures. But there are billions of people elsewhere willing to work for a dollar or two a day. If you allow tens of millions of them to come in to the USA through open borders, or you allow as much of our industry as wants to to relocate to dirt-wage Third World countries, the prevailing wages of working Americans will plummet or they will have to be made dependent on massive welfare programs.
Some people say it is okay for our manufacturing industry to leave, because China and Mexico and other countries will use the massive profits in dollars they make through trade to buy our debt. Our industry can move to China, these people say, and the government can issue trillions of debt to support the unemployed and those working for reduced wages at lower value-added jobs, China can buy trillions in US debt, and the joke will be on China because we will inflate the debt away or default on it. And in the meantime, American consumers can benefit from the cheaper Third World labor.
This is insane. The manufacturing base will have left. We have already lost literally tens of thousands of manufacturing facilities and the portion of our workforce engaged in industrial work has already declined precipitously. After we leave China holding the bag on defaulted or inflated US debt, they will still have the manufacturing base that we allowed to leave. They will find other customers in the world. But we will no longer be able to issue massive debt to artificially maintain high consumer spending, and the American bubble will collapse. The cheaper Third World goods we bought during the debt binge won't mean much to us then.
Many blacks and legal Hispanics want good jobs at decent wages, and don't want to have to compete with dollar-a-day labor for work. Trump needs to get them on board with a strategy to reinvigorate our industrial base.
People understand at a basic level that if we open the borders to any and all trade with the Third World, the standard of living of the American working class will decline. It doesn't matter how much you play around with tax rates. If you allow our factories to relocate to countries where they can pay a dollar a day in wages and no environmental and other regulatory requirements, and still say it's okay for them to freely sell their same products back into the same US market, of course manufacturing industry will relocate. It's a similar problem when we open the borders to massive Third World immigration - the wages of American workers will ultimately clear at something closer to Third World levels as wages are bid down.
The problem is not trade with Canada or Germany or France where they have comparable cost structures. But there are billions of people elsewhere willing to work for a dollar or two a day. If you allow tens of millions of them to come in to the USA through open borders, or you allow as much of our industry as wants to to relocate to dirt-wage Third World countries, the prevailing wages of working Americans will plummet or they will have to be made dependent on massive welfare programs.
Some people say it is okay for our manufacturing industry to leave, because China and Mexico and other countries will use the massive profits in dollars they make through trade to buy our debt. Our industry can move to China, these people say, and the government can issue trillions of debt to support the unemployed and those working for reduced wages at lower value-added jobs, China can buy trillions in US debt, and the joke will be on China because we will inflate the debt away or default on it. And in the meantime, American consumers can benefit from the cheaper Third World labor.
This is insane. The manufacturing base will have left. We have already lost literally tens of thousands of manufacturing facilities and the portion of our workforce engaged in industrial work has already declined precipitously. After we leave China holding the bag on defaulted or inflated US debt, they will still have the manufacturing base that we allowed to leave. They will find other customers in the world. But we will no longer be able to issue massive debt to artificially maintain high consumer spending, and the American bubble will collapse. The cheaper Third World goods we bought during the debt binge won't mean much to us then.
Many blacks and legal Hispanics want good jobs at decent wages, and don't want to have to compete with dollar-a-day labor for work. Trump needs to get them on board with a strategy to reinvigorate our industrial base.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 10:06 PM (k9m+Y)
530
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
No, not necessarily. I think she should take her cat to the vet as well as suggest to her roommate that sleeping around and having bad results because of it does not mean automatically you're gay. It may mean that despite all the hype straight women really want to have someone "special" who can commit to them, but sleeping around just lets guys think you're a easy lay and they'll go on to the next person and the next. Stacy Mccain says this at length and much better than I do,.
No, not necessarily. I think she should take her cat to the vet as well as suggest to her roommate that sleeping around and having bad results because of it does not mean automatically you're gay. It may mean that despite all the hype straight women really want to have someone "special" who can commit to them, but sleeping around just lets guys think you're a easy lay and they'll go on to the next person and the next. Stacy Mccain says this at length and much better than I do,.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:06 PM (frf5f)
531
515 My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
It could just be that she's lazy and doesn't want to expand her territory and is instead expanding her options within.
515 My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
It could just be that she's lazy and doesn't want to expand her territory and is instead expanding her options within.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:06 PM (bMG0w)
532
516 We could probably start making a pretty big list of "conservatives" and republicans that are all in "take my ball and go home" mode because it's Trump and not Jeb or Rubio. But if it were either of those two of the polls were showing the same result would be yelling at us to sit down shut up and fall in line behind their amnesty loving big government stooge.
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
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I notice you don't mention Cruz supporters, who make up a significant proportion of the #NeverTrumpers.
That list you're suggesting would include Thomas Sowell, James Lileks, Mark Levin, Cruz himself... not a horrible group.
Maybe we also need a list of folks telling us we need to sit down, shut up, and vote for Trump - Priebus, Boehner, McConnell (depending on the day)...
You know asses like George Will, both president Bushes, McCain, Eric Ericsson, etc.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
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I notice you don't mention Cruz supporters, who make up a significant proportion of the #NeverTrumpers.
That list you're suggesting would include Thomas Sowell, James Lileks, Mark Levin, Cruz himself... not a horrible group.
Maybe we also need a list of folks telling us we need to sit down, shut up, and vote for Trump - Priebus, Boehner, McConnell (depending on the day)...
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:06 PM (mFkVC)
533
496
Then what does the 'FY' in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
"Furry Yellow".
Then what does the 'FY' in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
"Furry Yellow".
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 10:07 PM (EzgxV)
534
I'm messed up on the Gavin Newscum time line.
Did he endorse gay marriage before or after he porked his best friend's wife? Was that before or after Kimberly Guilfoyle divorced him?
I know he got married again and they have bebbehs. They sold their house in S.F. and moved to Marin because they got tired of neighbors leaving sh!t on their front porch. And because S.F. sucks and even he can see that.
Did he endorse gay marriage before or after he porked his best friend's wife? Was that before or after Kimberly Guilfoyle divorced him?
I know he got married again and they have bebbehs. They sold their house in S.F. and moved to Marin because they got tired of neighbors leaving sh!t on their front porch. And because S.F. sucks and even he can see that.
Posted by: Hank at June 28, 2016 10:07 PM (/vqyz)
535
528 Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
Your think W should voice support for someone who called for his impeachment and during this campaign blamed him for letting 9/11 happen?
Keeping his thoughts to himself is going above and beyond of what one should expect.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:05 PM (MNgU2)
Didn't say that big government amnesty lover needed to voice his support. I'm saying he'd be demanding everyone shut up and fall in line.
528 Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:01 PM (bMG0w)
Your think W should voice support for someone who called for his impeachment and during this campaign blamed him for letting 9/11 happen?
Keeping his thoughts to himself is going above and beyond of what one should expect.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:05 PM (MNgU2)
Didn't say that big government amnesty lover needed to voice his support. I'm saying he'd be demanding everyone shut up and fall in line.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (bMG0w)
536
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:05 PM (MNgU2)
W certainly would support his brother, Jeb.
You know, the guy that gave Hillary a medal.
W certainly would support his brother, Jeb.
You know, the guy that gave Hillary a medal.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)
537
Posted by: Buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (bMG0w)
He's not demanding you do anything except in your imagination.
He's not demanding you do anything except in your imagination.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:10 PM (MNgU2)
538
Better to live on your feet than die on your knees.
Posted by: The Old Italian Guy
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I have bought, but not yet read, a book about Joseph Heller's bomber group. They were based in Corsica and tasked primarily with disrupting Kraut logistics in Italy by bombing bridges. (The book is entitled The Bridgebusters.) I always thought that about constantly raising the number of missions that constituted a tour was BS. Turns it's true. The Corsica operations had a lower priority than anybody except for Burma. Replacements were few and far between causing the number of missions to eventually be raised to 70. Heller flew 60 combat missions.
Posted by: The Old Italian Guy
-
I have bought, but not yet read, a book about Joseph Heller's bomber group. They were based in Corsica and tasked primarily with disrupting Kraut logistics in Italy by bombing bridges. (The book is entitled The Bridgebusters.) I always thought that about constantly raising the number of missions that constituted a tour was BS. Turns it's true. The Corsica operations had a lower priority than anybody except for Burma. Replacements were few and far between causing the number of missions to eventually be raised to 70. Heller flew 60 combat missions.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:11 PM (Nwg0u)
539
NeverHillary. Never give up. I have two small children and I'll be GOD Damned if I don't fight this progressive bullshit til my grave.
Posted by: Eli Cash at June 28, 2016 10:11 PM (z3TGX)
540
First date make sure to buy some skins. I prefer lamb. Unfortunately that creeps most women out. So go big and go gold. You know what I mean. Get a pin and punch a hole through it so you will be raw dog if it falls off or when it breaks and turns into a coco ring. Put it in your wallet with a fake Id. Photo copy $100 bills to create your own personal bank roll with a rubber band. Place that in your pocket.
Have fun and dont call her back.
Have fun and dont call her back.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty, former pixkup artist at June 28, 2016 10:11 PM (hNICT)
541
Daily Caller has a quick synopsis of some Benghazi points. I think the one that ticks me off the most (and there are many, including the Worthless Won not attending Intel meeting the day post attack as fund raiser in Las Vegas...where was I?
Ok, the FAST (Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team) sat on the tarmac in Roja, Spain, wanting to come help Americans, had to change their uniforms FOUR freaking times so not to offend the barbarians. Well. Mind blown. This will haunt them the rest of their lives.
Dems can Bite moi. xoxo
Ok, the FAST (Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team) sat on the tarmac in Roja, Spain, wanting to come help Americans, had to change their uniforms FOUR freaking times so not to offend the barbarians. Well. Mind blown. This will haunt them the rest of their lives.
Dems can Bite moi. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at June 28, 2016 10:11 PM (jRWGg)
Posted by: The Donald at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (dCxRY)
543
Ranting,
When we are buying F35s from the Chinese it's a problem.
I have be reflecting upon things. In the 1980's, I was making good money, but holey effing moley, everything cost so much.
I like buying good quality stuff for half of what I paid in the 80's.
On a personal level, I told my brother "Try not to compete with the Mexicans."
When we are buying F35s from the Chinese it's a problem.
I have be reflecting upon things. In the 1980's, I was making good money, but holey effing moley, everything cost so much.
I like buying good quality stuff for half of what I paid in the 80's.
On a personal level, I told my brother "Try not to compete with the Mexicans."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (1ijHg)
544
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (MNgU2)
545
I haven't read this thread at all. I've spent the whole evening researching e-cigs, and finally pulled the trigger and ordered a Halo Triton starter kit. We'll see how it goes.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
546
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:10 PM (MNgU2)
You're not a very bright person are you.
You're not a very bright person are you.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (bMG0w)
547
"But we have allowed ourselves to be duped into this financial myth so
that we have had constant inflation (as our goal!) for decades."
Somehow the U.S. economy managed to rack up steady solid growth during periods in the past which were almost continuously deflationary.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
that we have had constant inflation (as our goal!) for decades."
Somehow the U.S. economy managed to rack up steady solid growth during periods in the past which were almost continuously deflationary.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (noWW6)
548
I think it is useless to try and convince the LIVs' Hillary will take away their constitutional rights and destroy freedom. They don't really care anyway. Better off trying to convince them Hillary will take away their reality TV and destroy professional sports. THAT would get them to the polls.
Posted by: Ripley at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (0vsws)
Posted by: Bidung at June 28, 2016 10:14 PM (hsHkH)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:14 PM (MNgU2)
551
529---Ranting McRantface--- Trump has a natural appeal to the black and legal Hispanic working class if he can break through the Democrats' racialism.
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He can't.
It's a pity but he can't.
As far as blacks are concerned, I don't think anyone can.
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He can't.
It's a pity but he can't.
As far as blacks are concerned, I don't think anyone can.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 10:14 PM (T/5A0)
552
Goddamn what a bunch of limp dick faggots
Not an once of fight in the lot of you
I'll hold your coat.
Not an once of fight in the lot of you
I'll hold your coat.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 10:14 PM (rwI+c)
553
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty, former pixkup artist at June 28, 2016 10:11 PM (hNICT)
Isn't there some phone number you can tell your sexual fantasies to with the woman on the end of the line?
Oh, whoops You;d have top pay for that.
Isn't there some phone number you can tell your sexual fantasies to with the woman on the end of the line?
Oh, whoops You;d have top pay for that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:16 PM (frf5f)
554
So it seems that last night as I slept Peruvian intelligence officers snuck into my house, shot my sofa and rearranged my pets. I think they are trying to disorient and confuse me.
It's working.
It's working.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:16 PM (NeFrd)
555
>>Goddamn what a bunch of limp dick faggots
Do you prefer hard dick faggots? Big throbbing veiny cock faggots? Turgid erect huge dong faggots?
Do you prefer hard dick faggots? Big throbbing veiny cock faggots? Turgid erect huge dong faggots?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 10:16 PM (dSuDi)
556
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (MNgU2)
Cannot argue with that. Hillary it is.
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (MNgU2)
Cannot argue with that. Hillary it is.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:17 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:17 PM (qUNWi)
558
One of Trump's advisers, on trade and marketing, is Dan Dimicco, former (retired) CEO of Nucor Steel. He ran the world's largest, most profitable, most efficient steelmaking company in the world, for nearly 20 years, and survived (and flourished) during the Chinese Steel Dumping Exercise that Clinton promoted in the 90s.
I worked for that man for 12 years, and if Trump is smart enough to choose him for an adviser, and listen to his advice, I may relent on my plan to stay in bed on election day.
I worked for that man for 12 years, and if Trump is smart enough to choose him for an adviser, and listen to his advice, I may relent on my plan to stay in bed on election day.
Posted by: Retired Spook at June 28, 2016 10:17 PM (sIk3o)
559
So I guess the people who need the sex phone line are teens out of school?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:18 PM (frf5f)
560
Lemme at 'em! Lemme at 'em!
Posted by: Fighty McFightface at June 28, 2016 10:18 PM (oia+s)
561
My daughter's female roommate has decided she is a lesbian (despite banging every guy in a three mile radius) and now her cat has gone crazy pooping everywhere but the litterbox. Coincidence?
a) women are sexually fluid. Something may have triggered her into becoming a lesbian. b) she may have been promiscuous with men in order to convince herself that she really wasn't heterosexual.
a) women are sexually fluid. Something may have triggered her into becoming a lesbian. b) she may have been promiscuous with men in order to convince herself that she really wasn't heterosexual.
Posted by: Yuimetal at June 28, 2016 10:18 PM (xSfiX)
562
Paul Ryan rival Paul Nehlen donates rifles, armor and drone to Border Sheriffs, and slams Paul Ryan
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hw576qm
Maybe Nehlen has a chance.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hw576qm
Maybe Nehlen has a chance.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (X0SOM)
563
Oh, Man. I got this bee on my arm.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)
564
I think it is useless to try and convince the LIVs' Hillary will take
away their constitutional rights and destroy freedom. They don't really
care anyway. Better off trying to convince them Hillary will take away
their reality TV and destroy professional sports. THAT would get them to
the polls.
--
How about "Hillary's gonna let lots more of those illegals in, and Uncle Sugar's gonna cut YOUR EBT card off to give THEM cash for their EBT cards."'
Would that work?
away their constitutional rights and destroy freedom. They don't really
care anyway. Better off trying to convince them Hillary will take away
their reality TV and destroy professional sports. THAT would get them to
the polls.
--
How about "Hillary's gonna let lots more of those illegals in, and Uncle Sugar's gonna cut YOUR EBT card off to give THEM cash for their EBT cards."'
Would that work?
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (tvyXw)
565
So it seems that last night as I slept Peruvian intelligence officers snuck into my house, shot my sofa and rearranged my pets. I think they are trying to disorient and confuse me.
---------------
Wait... are you in the Andes? Because maybe it's just the altitude. Oxygen deprivation.
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Wait... are you in the Andes? Because maybe it's just the altitude. Oxygen deprivation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in the mountains at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (OLNwX)
566
I'll hold your coat.///
Wait I thought before something stupid you were supposed to hold their beer.
Wait I thought before something stupid you were supposed to hold their beer.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (wfv0g)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (rwI+c)
568
Oh man, I've got this human on my legs.
Posted by: some bee at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (T+syn)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (qUNWi)
570
Someone sure gets pissed off when pointing out that the establishment would be demanding we all fall in line if one of their hacks had gotten the nomination.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (bMG0w)
571
How about "Hillary's gonna let lots more of
those illegals in, and Uncle Sugar's gonna cut YOUR EBT card off to give
THEM cash for their EBT cards."'
Would that work?
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (tvyXw)
1. I love you.
2. You're a genius.
3. E-mail this to people who can get Trump saying it.
those illegals in, and Uncle Sugar's gonna cut YOUR EBT card off to give
THEM cash for their EBT cards."'
Would that work?
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (tvyXw)
1. I love you.
2. You're a genius.
3. E-mail this to people who can get Trump saying it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:20 PM (J+mig)
572
a) women are sexually fluid. Something may have triggered her into becoming a lesbian. b) she may have been promiscuous with men in order to convince herself that she really wasn't heterosexual.
Posted by: Yuimetal at June 28, 2016 10:18 PM (xSfiX)
I'm not a woman, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I WAS a woman, I would find men to be disgusting, and would really really REALLY enjoy some of those pixy cute lezzies.
I can't possibly think of any good argument for why all wimmins aren't just all in for the ladies.
Posted by: Yuimetal at June 28, 2016 10:18 PM (xSfiX)
I'm not a woman, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I WAS a woman, I would find men to be disgusting, and would really really REALLY enjoy some of those pixy cute lezzies.
I can't possibly think of any good argument for why all wimmins aren't just all in for the ladies.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (Dj0WE)
573
Hit my hand with that shovel ..
Posted by: Just the Punchline at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (rwI+c)
574
I used to buy Playboy just for the articles just like I come to the HQ just for the original post.
That Gore Vidal was just great!
That Gore Vidal was just great!
Posted by: Dove at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (A/+my)
575
I notice you don't mention Cruz supporters, who make up a significant proportion of the #NeverTrumpers.
That list you're suggesting would include Thomas Sowell, James Lileks, Mark Levin, Cruz himself... not a horrible group.
_______________________________________________________________
What do those people think the Trump supporters are going to do if Hillary wins because of their tantrum? Get behind a Cruz candidacy in 2020?We will be DONE with the GOP. The country will be pretty much gone after Hillary makes a couple of SCOTUS appointments anyway. The only point of showing upto the polls would be for the satisfaction of defeating the Republicansresponsible for her victory.
I notice you don't mention Cruz supporters, who make up a significant proportion of the #NeverTrumpers.
That list you're suggesting would include Thomas Sowell, James Lileks, Mark Levin, Cruz himself... not a horrible group.
_______________________________________________________________
What do those people think the Trump supporters are going to do if Hillary wins because of their tantrum? Get behind a Cruz candidacy in 2020?We will be DONE with the GOP. The country will be pretty much gone after Hillary makes a couple of SCOTUS appointments anyway. The only point of showing upto the polls would be for the satisfaction of defeating the Republicansresponsible for her victory.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (H6376)
576
I haven't read this thread at all. I've spent the
whole evening researching e-cigs, and finally pulled the trigger and
ordered a Halo Triton starter kit. We'll see how it goes.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
How much that set you back?
Wal-Greens sells three lines: Haus, Fin, and Njoy. You can mix and match components so I get whatever is on sale.
whole evening researching e-cigs, and finally pulled the trigger and
ordered a Halo Triton starter kit. We'll see how it goes.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
How much that set you back?
Wal-Greens sells three lines: Haus, Fin, and Njoy. You can mix and match components so I get whatever is on sale.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (P/kVC)
577
>>>So it seems that last night as I slept Peruvian
intelligence officers snuck into my house, shot my sofa and rearranged
my pets. I think they are trying to disorient and confuse me.
It's working.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:16 PM (NeFrd)<<<
Well, sure as hell wasn't us if they didn't shoot the pets.
intelligence officers snuck into my house, shot my sofa and rearranged
my pets. I think they are trying to disorient and confuse me.
It's working.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:16 PM (NeFrd)<<<
Well, sure as hell wasn't us if they didn't shoot the pets.
Posted by: some militarized thug cops at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (H9MG5)
578
544 Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (MNgU2)
It's only a problem if W withholds support from Trump.
Trump greased the skids. What the fuck is Jeb doing giving Hillary a medal?
544 Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)
Why is that a problem when the guy you're supporting gave Hillary money ?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:12 PM (MNgU2)
It's only a problem if W withholds support from Trump.
Trump greased the skids. What the fuck is Jeb doing giving Hillary a medal?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
579
Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (qUNWi)
580
the negativity is the main reason I've been visiting the blog less lately. I love the insight and all but the lack of faith is fuckin disheartening. I know that no matter what happens I and my family will fight to the end and that it's really as simple as that. Outside forces are out of my control...but my life is also not under the control of these forces either. The forces may be able to choose whether I live or die but it can't choose how I live.
Posted by: Bob at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (1WcFV)
581
a) women are sexually fluid. Something may have triggered her into becoming a lesbian. b) she may have been promiscuous with men in order to convince herself that she really wasn't heterosexual.
Posted by: Yuimetal
-------------
Perhaps she hasn't learned that life isn't only about sex.
Posted by: Yuimetal
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Perhaps she hasn't learned that life isn't only about sex.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in the mountains at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (OLNwX)
582
There is only one acceptable reason not to vote for Trump, morals. Trump continuing abortion would be a morally acceptable reason not to vote for him.
Hillary is an abomination and an anathema to America and must be voted down.
Hillary is an abomination and an anathema to America and must be voted down.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (X0SOM)
583
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (tvyXw)
It's a good but i wouldn't use Uncle Sugar (That sounds like something conservatives say about people on welfare) and it would need to be plastered everywhere on signs.
It's a good but i wouldn't use Uncle Sugar (That sounds like something conservatives say about people on welfare) and it would need to be plastered everywhere on signs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (frf5f)
584
Anyone who thinks the media/Hillary machine would not have done exactly the same thing to any other Candidate with an R next to his or her name is totally delusional.
Posted by: Czar Peter at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (JGNQ+)
585
Trump greased the skids. What the fuck is Jeb doing giving Hillary a medal?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
A medal for her public service, on September 10th.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
A medal for her public service, on September 10th.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (bMG0w)
586
Does anyone have any links to cogent arguments from the NeverTrumpers about WHY they think Trump would be worse than Hilary?
At this point, there are lots of people who are supporting him in the full awareness that it's a gamble. But given Hillary's badness, it's a gamble we're willing to take.
What are the people saying who think that gamble is NOT worth it, and why?
At this point, there are lots of people who are supporting him in the full awareness that it's a gamble. But given Hillary's badness, it's a gamble we're willing to take.
What are the people saying who think that gamble is NOT worth it, and why?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (L54EB)
587
414 ... Nothing dilates the pupils like a concussion.
Or Satanic possession.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (VxHD9)
Um, belladonna, death, certain alkaloids found in fungus . . .
Seriously though, if she is rolling around on the floor yammering about the walls attacking her while she is being crucified by the rats in the basement she probably isn't dead.
yet.
Or Satanic possession.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 09:45 PM (VxHD9)
Um, belladonna, death, certain alkaloids found in fungus . . .
Seriously though, if she is rolling around on the floor yammering about the walls attacking her while she is being crucified by the rats in the basement she probably isn't dead.
yet.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (ry34m)
588
>>> Oh, Man. I got this bee on my arm.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)
----
Is this a euphemism that I don't know about?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)
----
Is this a euphemism that I don't know about?
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (6IPEM)
589
What do those people think the Trump supporters are
going to do if Hillary wins because of their tantrum? Get behind a Cruz
candidacy in 2020?We will be DONE with the GOP. The country will be
pretty much gone after Hillary makes a couple of SCOTUS appointments
anyway. The only point of showing upto the polls would be for the
satisfaction of defeating the Republicansresponsible for her victory.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (H6376)
If we lose this one, there won't be an election in 2020. Or if there is, it won't matter. The results will be North Korea style numbers. 99.999% for Dear Leader! Be on the lookout for the .001%, traitors are everywhere, report them to the Ministry of Love.
going to do if Hillary wins because of their tantrum? Get behind a Cruz
candidacy in 2020?We will be DONE with the GOP. The country will be
pretty much gone after Hillary makes a couple of SCOTUS appointments
anyway. The only point of showing upto the polls would be for the
satisfaction of defeating the Republicansresponsible for her victory.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (H6376)
If we lose this one, there won't be an election in 2020. Or if there is, it won't matter. The results will be North Korea style numbers. 99.999% for Dear Leader! Be on the lookout for the .001%, traitors are everywhere, report them to the Ministry of Love.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (sdi6R)
591
When I was 18 I went through a brief phase where I thought I was Lebanese. I came around eventually.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (NeFrd)
592
"Many blacks and legal Hispanics want good jobs at decent wages"
Blacks in Africa want good jobs at decent wages, too.
That hasn't stopped them from voting continuously for decades for the same utterly incompetent and corrupt politicians who consistently fail to deliver those good jobs and decent wages.
The Gini coefficient for South Africa (a technical measure of income inequality) is worse now than during the apartheid years. This has happened during continuous ANC rule since the end of apartheid. I guaran-damn-tee you the outcome of the next election in South Africa: the country's blacks will vote to retain the ANC in power.
Blacks in Africa want good jobs at decent wages, too.
That hasn't stopped them from voting continuously for decades for the same utterly incompetent and corrupt politicians who consistently fail to deliver those good jobs and decent wages.
The Gini coefficient for South Africa (a technical measure of income inequality) is worse now than during the apartheid years. This has happened during continuous ANC rule since the end of apartheid. I guaran-damn-tee you the outcome of the next election in South Africa: the country's blacks will vote to retain the ANC in power.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (noWW6)
593
by the most corrupt female schemer since Olivia Medicci
Amateur.
Amateur.
Posted by: zombie Elisabeth Farnese at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (A/+my)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 28, 2016 10:25 PM (rwI+c)
595
580 the negativity is the main reason I've been visiting the blog less lately.
--
I hear ya.
It gets old, the the wallowing in gloomy & doom.
--
I hear ya.
It gets old, the the wallowing in gloomy & doom.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:25 PM (7lVbc)
596
There is only one acceptable reason not to vote for Trump, morals. Trump
continuing abortion would be a morally acceptable reason not to vote
for him.///
Yeah that moral problem is gonna get fixed by Hillary for sure.
continuing abortion would be a morally acceptable reason not to vote
for him.///
Yeah that moral problem is gonna get fixed by Hillary for sure.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:25 PM (wfv0g)
597
Yup. And the future governor of California.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:04 PM (5o5ek)
=====
Don't kid yourself. President Newsom.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:04 PM (5o5ek)
=====
Don't kid yourself. President Newsom.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 28, 2016 10:26 PM (EZebt)
598
Wanna know why the Greeks lost to the Romans?
The men preferred fucking boys instead of women.
There was no one to farm the fields.
or fight to defend them.
The men preferred fucking boys instead of women.
There was no one to farm the fields.
or fight to defend them.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 10:26 PM (1ijHg)
599
Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven
Put some bee juice on the needle.
Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven
Put some bee juice on the needle.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:26 PM (IqV8l)
600
Blue whales are in danger, and I'm pretty sure that it is Trump's fault. Even though he runs nothing in the government. It's his fault. Whales are big by the way.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 28, 2016 08:09 PM (6Ll1u)
There were fat female aliens in Avatar? Damn glad I never saw the movie.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 28, 2016 08:09 PM (6Ll1u)
There were fat female aliens in Avatar? Damn glad I never saw the movie.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 10:27 PM (GSdpU)
601
Ace, chin up buddy. It's early in the game. Trump will eviscerate her and leave her bloody entrails on the debate hall floor, if she is dumb enough to debate him.
If she refuses to debate him, Trump will eviscerate her long distance with simple, truthful statements about her long crooked career.
She is a carcass already begining to stink.
The Islamonazis alone will give Trump a 3-5 point advantage as they continue their monthly terror attacks.
Americans have had enough of the b.s. from the politicians.
If she refuses to debate him, Trump will eviscerate her long distance with simple, truthful statements about her long crooked career.
She is a carcass already begining to stink.
The Islamonazis alone will give Trump a 3-5 point advantage as they continue their monthly terror attacks.
Americans have had enough of the b.s. from the politicians.
Posted by: Optimus Maximus at June 28, 2016 10:27 PM (C2EWj)
602
Nevertrumpers seem mostly to be in the DC bubble, from what I can see. Or at least the leaders are.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:27 PM (7lVbc)
603
There is only one acceptable reason not to vote for Trump, morals. Trump continuing abortion would be a morally acceptable reason not to vote for him.
------------
I understand the emotion, but what power, exactly, does the President have to effect the legality of abortion?
Back when McCain and Palin were running, a frantic Lefty female told me that if Palin were to become President, she would stop abortion. "How?", I asked her. No answer, because the President doesn't have any control beyond lip service.
------------
I understand the emotion, but what power, exactly, does the President have to effect the legality of abortion?
Back when McCain and Palin were running, a frantic Lefty female told me that if Palin were to become President, she would stop abortion. "How?", I asked her. No answer, because the President doesn't have any control beyond lip service.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in the mountains at June 28, 2016 10:27 PM (OLNwX)
604
Wanna know why the Greeks lost to the Romans?
The men preferred fucking boys instead of women.
Where did the boys come from?
Wanna know why the Greeks lost to the Romans?
The men preferred fucking boys instead of women.
Where did the boys come from?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:27 PM (IqV8l)
605
Yeah that moral problem is gonna get fixed by Hillary for sure.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:25 PM (wfv0g)
It's amazing how short-sighted people are about that. We might not make progress on every issue all at once. Winning on some issues and failing to move the needle on others is better than a 100% loss. Hillary is that 100% loss.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:25 PM (wfv0g)
It's amazing how short-sighted people are about that. We might not make progress on every issue all at once. Winning on some issues and failing to move the needle on others is better than a 100% loss. Hillary is that 100% loss.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (J+mig)
606
I'm not a woman, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I WAS a woman, I would find men to be disgusting, and would really really REALLY enjoy some of those pixy cute lezzies.
I can't possibly think of any good argument for why all wimmins aren't just all in for the ladies.
-
Don't give them any ideas.
I can't possibly think of any good argument for why all wimmins aren't just all in for the ladies.
-
Don't give them any ideas.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (rwI+c)
608
Trump needs to vocally and openly run *against* the Bush family's version of Republicanism. Which was a complete catastrophe and which made possible the previously unthinkable rocket ascent of Obama.
Since the snooze media have spent the last 7.5 years saying that everything that is still wrong in the country is due to the Bush hangover, they will have a hard time rubbishing Trump over his attacking Bushism. They can't exactly say "never mind, we were just kidding".
Since the snooze media have spent the last 7.5 years saying that everything that is still wrong in the country is due to the Bush hangover, they will have a hard time rubbishing Trump over his attacking Bushism. They can't exactly say "never mind, we were just kidding".
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (qUNWi)
610
Arguments I have heard against Trump include:
He's vulgar.
He's a dictator.
He's a Liberal.
He's inconsistant.
He incites violence.
He's a bigot.
He's dumb.
He's ignorant.
He's un-Presidential.
He's not a Conservative.
He's a clown.
He picks on little old ladies.
He farts in elevators.
He's vulgar.
He's a dictator.
He's a Liberal.
He's inconsistant.
He incites violence.
He's a bigot.
He's dumb.
He's ignorant.
He's un-Presidential.
He's not a Conservative.
He's a clown.
He picks on little old ladies.
He farts in elevators.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:29 PM (MQEz6)
611
first, they started killing the female babies. then...
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 10:29 PM (1ijHg)
612
Anyone see George Will yesterday claiming that the country could survive a Hillary admin because the congress would vigorously oppose her, but would roll over for Trump? Maybe George was drunk.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
Was he wearing dungarees? maybe that was the Bizarro World George Will.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 28, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
Was he wearing dungarees? maybe that was the Bizarro World George Will.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 10:29 PM (GSdpU)
613
586 Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (L54EB)__________________________________________________________
I've yet to have a Nevertrumper explain a practical benefit to be had from paving the way for Hillary. Their position seems to be based on an intense dislike for Trump. What achievnig their objective will do to advance the conservative cause is unclear.
586 Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (L54EB)__________________________________________________________
I've yet to have a Nevertrumper explain a practical benefit to be had from paving the way for Hillary. Their position seems to be based on an intense dislike for Trump. What achievnig their objective will do to advance the conservative cause is unclear.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (H6376)
614
Does anyone have any links to cogent arguments from the NeverTrumpers about WHY they think Trump would be worse than Hilary?
I'm just parachuting into this thread because whatshername has gone to bed and why not have a Trump fight?
I'm mad at the world and some of you that the best argument is "Hillary is awful". Of course she's awful. We knew that. We had sixteen perfectly serviceable candidates. We got Trump.
We're supposed to be conservatives. Economic conservatives support free trade. Milton Friedman is one of our deities, along with Hayek and Smith.
I got a graduate degree in free trade from a good school and I still believe the things they taught me.
Now this walking creamsicle gave an hour long diatribe against everything I believe and we're supposed to fall in line because Not Hillary?
This is not a good place to be.
I'm just parachuting into this thread because whatshername has gone to bed and why not have a Trump fight?
I'm mad at the world and some of you that the best argument is "Hillary is awful". Of course she's awful. We knew that. We had sixteen perfectly serviceable candidates. We got Trump.
We're supposed to be conservatives. Economic conservatives support free trade. Milton Friedman is one of our deities, along with Hayek and Smith.
I got a graduate degree in free trade from a good school and I still believe the things they taught me.
Now this walking creamsicle gave an hour long diatribe against everything I believe and we're supposed to fall in line because Not Hillary?
This is not a good place to be.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1ijHg)
616
did someone say, 'rats'?
Posted by: willard at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (A/+my)
617
If Trump farts in elevators I'm in Camp Hillary.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (qUNWi)
618
Somebody asked and doubted if there were any pictures of her holding a baby.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (hNICT)
Bring me the tongs, Huma. The long ones. Apparently I have to hold a baby.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 08:15 PM (hNICT)
Bring me the tongs, Huma. The long ones. Apparently I have to hold a baby.
Posted by: Hillaroid at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (GSdpU)
619
I can't possibly think of any good argument for why all wimmins aren't just all in for the ladies.
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Don't give them any ideas.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (Nwg0u)
I love the gals, really I do, but if they haven't figured it out by now, 1, they ain't too bright, and 2, they're not about to start getting any smarter in this epoch.
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Don't give them any ideas.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:28 PM (Nwg0u)
I love the gals, really I do, but if they haven't figured it out by now, 1, they ain't too bright, and 2, they're not about to start getting any smarter in this epoch.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (Dj0WE)
620
Trump: I'll protect you from foreign farts in elevators.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (qUNWi)
621
When I was 18 I went through a brief phase where I thought I was Lebanese. I came around eventually.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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It was the Danny Thomas influence, wasn't it?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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It was the Danny Thomas influence, wasn't it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in the mountains at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (frf5f)
623
Nevertrumpers don't have that much on the line.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters have are at the end of their ropes.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters have are at the end of their ropes.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (7lVbc)
624
He farts in elevators.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:29 PM (MQEz6)
Farts in elevators??!!??
That's it. I'm off the Trump Train.
Sigh...........
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:29 PM (MQEz6)
Farts in elevators??!!??
That's it. I'm off the Trump Train.
Sigh...........
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (P/kVC)
626
Boulder and Emmie and any other CO people that voted today, Glenn won.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (6IPEM)
627
Trump is being damned by left-wing blogs, Hollywood stars, and the snooze media as being purportedly the most ultra-right-wing crypto-fascist figure ever to emerge in national politics.
This is happening at the same time that the actual right wing are in a huge internal flurry and shouting debate over whether or not Trump is even a conservative at all.
Strange days.
This is happening at the same time that the actual right wing are in a huge internal flurry and shouting debate over whether or not Trump is even a conservative at all.
Strange days.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (noWW6)
628
This is not a good place to be.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
And you ain't in school no more, college boy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
And you ain't in school no more, college boy.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (Dj0WE)
629
620 Trump: I'll protect you from foreign farts in elevators.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (qUNWi)
Woo Hoo!
Stop the Train!!
I want back on!!
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:32 PM (qUNWi)
Woo Hoo!
Stop the Train!!
I want back on!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (WVsWD)
630
Trump: I'll protect you from foreign farts in elevators.
Posted by: eleven
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There is no protection from Kimchi farts in elevators. You're just done.
Posted by: eleven
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There is no protection from Kimchi farts in elevators. You're just done.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in the mountains at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (OLNwX)
631
Nevertrumpers don't have that much on the line.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters are at the end of their ropes.
Votermom -- I think you just fucking nailed it.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters are at the end of their ropes.
Votermom -- I think you just fucking nailed it.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (qUNWi)
632
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
Free trade is cool. Maybe Trump is pointing out that there is not as much of it happening in the world as you think and the right response right now is something you do not want to support.
Free trade is cool. Maybe Trump is pointing out that there is not as much of it happening in the world as you think and the right response right now is something you do not want to support.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (MQEz6)
633
You don't know her name?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I talk to an 'Ette every night. I didn't want to name drop.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I talk to an 'Ette every night. I didn't want to name drop.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (1xUj/)
634
I'm mad at the world and some of you that the best argument is "Hillary
is awful". Of course she's awful. We knew that. We had sixteen
perfectly serviceable candidates. We got Trump.///
So your playing DOOM and all your preferred weapons are gone. Do you drop the one you have and quit or empty it into the beast?
is awful". Of course she's awful. We knew that. We had sixteen
perfectly serviceable candidates. We got Trump.///
So your playing DOOM and all your preferred weapons are gone. Do you drop the one you have and quit or empty it into the beast?
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 10:35 PM (wfv0g)
635
This is not a good place to be.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
It's where we are and pining for the perfect candidate ain't gonna fix it. Of those 16 serviceable candidates, the vast majority were fucking globalists, (Jeb, Rubio, Kasich, etc.) Rand Paul couldn't find his ass with both hands and an anatomical chart for reference, Fiorina flamed out early, Perry and Walker both fizzled, Carson thought he was interviewing for a job as a pastor, and Cruz tried to play it safe.
Basically, everyone except Cruz failed horribly, and Cruz didn't take risks in a cycle where the voters are far more averse to business as usual than they are to risk. We probably wouldn't have gotten Trump if the GOPe hadn't tried to stack the deck for JEB then Rubio and hadn't kept them in the race long past their sell-by dates, but they did, so we got stuck with what we got.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
It's where we are and pining for the perfect candidate ain't gonna fix it. Of those 16 serviceable candidates, the vast majority were fucking globalists, (Jeb, Rubio, Kasich, etc.) Rand Paul couldn't find his ass with both hands and an anatomical chart for reference, Fiorina flamed out early, Perry and Walker both fizzled, Carson thought he was interviewing for a job as a pastor, and Cruz tried to play it safe.
Basically, everyone except Cruz failed horribly, and Cruz didn't take risks in a cycle where the voters are far more averse to business as usual than they are to risk. We probably wouldn't have gotten Trump if the GOPe hadn't tried to stack the deck for JEB then Rubio and hadn't kept them in the race long past their sell-by dates, but they did, so we got stuck with what we got.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:35 PM (J+mig)
636
I suppose some of the the Nevertrumpers are Republicans because they like globalist "free" trade and loads of really cheap crap at Walmart. If that's all you care about, I suppose Hillary might be a better candidate for you.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:36 PM (H6376)
637
"Economic conservatives support free trade. Milton Friedman is one of our deities, along with Hayek and Smith."
The international trade agreements to which the United States has signed itself up are for the most part anything but "free" trade.
Also, the concept of "free" trade with slave nations has some pretty massive conceptual flaws from the get-go.
The international trade agreements to which the United States has signed itself up are for the most part anything but "free" trade.
Also, the concept of "free" trade with slave nations has some pretty massive conceptual flaws from the get-go.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:36 PM (noWW6)
638
I work in a building that gets a fair amount of elderly traffic (Cardiology Clinic and Coumadin Clinic on our floor).
Farting on an elevator with three or four eighty year olds is one of the few fun things left in my life. They each assume one of them did it. They usually tilt their heads and dart their eyes suggestively at one of the other oldsters to deflect suspicion from themselves.
Farting on an elevator with three or four eighty year olds is one of the few fun things left in my life. They each assume one of them did it. They usually tilt their heads and dart their eyes suggestively at one of the other oldsters to deflect suspicion from themselves.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:36 PM (NeFrd)
639
614
We're supposed to be conservatives. Economic conservatives support free trade. Milton Friedman is one of our deities, along with Hayek and Smith.
I got a graduate degree in free trade from a good school and I still believe the things they taught me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
But we don't have free trade now. American businesses are hamstrung by a million regulations and taxes, but all they have to do is move their manufacturing to China and they get to pay their workers a dollar a day and dump toxic sludge anywhere they want. That's not exactly a level playing field.
We're supposed to be conservatives. Economic conservatives support free trade. Milton Friedman is one of our deities, along with Hayek and Smith.
I got a graduate degree in free trade from a good school and I still believe the things they taught me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
But we don't have free trade now. American businesses are hamstrung by a million regulations and taxes, but all they have to do is move their manufacturing to China and they get to pay their workers a dollar a day and dump toxic sludge anywhere they want. That's not exactly a level playing field.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
640
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:34 PM (1xUj/)
if you talk to a different one every night I could see where you might be confused, but if you don't and we probably know who you;re talking about what not just use her handle name unless she asked you not to, I mean.
if you talk to a different one every night I could see where you might be confused, but if you don't and we probably know who you;re talking about what not just use her handle name unless she asked you not to, I mean.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (frf5f)
641
The international trade agreements to which the United States has signed itself up are for the most part anything but "free" trade.
Also, the concept of "free" trade with slave nations has some pretty massive conceptual flaws from the get-go.
What torquewrench said.
Also, the concept of "free" trade with slave nations has some pretty massive conceptual flaws from the get-go.
What torquewrench said.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (qUNWi)
642
Well, right up until it happened nobody thought the Brexit vote was going to win so it might be a bit early for despair.
There
will be plenty of time for despair if and when it happens. Until then
try to recharge. You will probably need all your reserves of mental
endurance to survive the Hillary years.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (QHgTq)
There is plenty of reason to dispair... even if Trump wins, all we get is Trump.
There
will be plenty of time for despair if and when it happens. Until then
try to recharge. You will probably need all your reserves of mental
endurance to survive the Hillary years.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 28, 2016 08:02 PM (QHgTq)
There is plenty of reason to dispair... even if Trump wins, all we get is Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (9dfKD)
643
Farting on an elevator with three or four eighty year olds is one of the few fun things left in my life.
Farting in public gets risky past a certain age.
Farting in public gets risky past a certain age.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (1xUj/)
644
Free Trade and the unrestricted flow of cheap labor into this country to fill the jobs that can't be shipped out of the country! Vote for Us!!!!!
Posted by: GOPe Platform at June 28, 2016 10:38 PM (bMG0w)
645
So the White House has called this attack terrorism, but they are still unsure for the motivation of the Orlando attack?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (zp+j1)
Well, there weren't any fags to kill in Turkey, because islamic countries don't have any.
So we are told.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 08:31 PM (zp+j1)
Well, there weren't any fags to kill in Turkey, because islamic countries don't have any.
So we are told.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 10:38 PM (GSdpU)
646
It was the Danny Thomas influence, wasn't it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Whose birth name was Amos Alphonsus Muzyad Yakhoob
It was the Danny Thomas influence, wasn't it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Whose birth name was Amos Alphonsus Muzyad Yakhoob
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:38 PM (IqV8l)
647
Fenelon, I talk to alex every night. Haven't missed a day in more than a year.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:39 PM (1xUj/)
648
643 Farting on an elevator with three or four eighty year olds is one of the few fun things left in my life.
Farting in public gets risky past a certain age.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (1xUj/)
And private
Farting in public gets risky past a certain age.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (1xUj/)
And private
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 28, 2016 10:39 PM (voOPb)
649
"We probably wouldn't have gotten Trump if the GOPe hadn't tried to stack
the deck for JEB then Rubio and hadn't kept them in the race long past
their sell-by dates, but they did, so we got stuck with what we got."
This, with the heat of a thousand exploding suns.
The establishment's chicanery ended up ensuring a Trump primary win. The establishment then engaged in the biggest indignant flounce in all of recorded history.
the deck for JEB then Rubio and hadn't kept them in the race long past
their sell-by dates, but they did, so we got stuck with what we got."
This, with the heat of a thousand exploding suns.
The establishment's chicanery ended up ensuring a Trump primary win. The establishment then engaged in the biggest indignant flounce in all of recorded history.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:39 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Al Roker at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (OLNwX)
651
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:36 PM (NeFrd
LOL. Perhaps you should consider going on vacation and not riding on elevators at the time because causing confusion by farting in a elevator seems like it means you might need time away from a stressful job.
LOL. Perhaps you should consider going on vacation and not riding on elevators at the time because causing confusion by farting in a elevator seems like it means you might need time away from a stressful job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (frf5f)
652
Just really starting to wrap my head around the 9th through 12th uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule, this time by the most corrupt female schemer since Olivia Medicci.
OK, I'll bite. Who is Olivia Medicci? Google thinks I mean Olivia Medici. If I insist on the ace spelling, the top link is back to this post.
On the other hand, Olivia Medici turns out to be a little girl who was born with Sanfilippo Syndrome, type A. She had numerous health issues until she passed in 2006 at 5 years old. Google's top link is to her wish page.
I know ace is grumpy, but I got to believe he wasn't picking on that little girl, even if she was a little schemer who wanted to stay alive. So, who is Olivia Medicci?
OK, I'll bite. Who is Olivia Medicci? Google thinks I mean Olivia Medici. If I insist on the ace spelling, the top link is back to this post.
On the other hand, Olivia Medici turns out to be a little girl who was born with Sanfilippo Syndrome, type A. She had numerous health issues until she passed in 2006 at 5 years old. Google's top link is to her wish page.
I know ace is grumpy, but I got to believe he wasn't picking on that little girl, even if she was a little schemer who wanted to stay alive. So, who is Olivia Medicci?
Posted by: Robert Plant at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (R+30W)
653
Heather Thomas was pretty hot, tho.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (qUNWi)
654
Basically, everyone except Cruz failed horribly, and Cruz didn't take risks in a cycle where the voters are far more averse to business as usual than they are to risk. We probably wouldn't have gotten Trump if the GOPe hadn't tried to stack the deck for JEB then Rubio and hadn't kept them in the race long past their sell-by dates, but they did, so we got stuck with what we got.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:35 PM (J+mig)
I go back to one of the very early debates, I think it was on Fox, and there was a fairly strong bias among the moderators to focus of Jeb! and Mario, and maybe some sniping at Trump, I don't remember. All I remember is they tossed a question to Cruz, and he started answering. One of the broads then said "oh sorry, we have to go to break."
And they did. They went to break, and when they came back they asked Jeb! or Mario or somebody else a question, and there was Ted. Allowing himself to get punked by a stupid bimbo Fox news broad.
He lost then and there. I love the guy, really I do, but he never stood a chance. Ever. Nor will he. Regardless of what happens this year.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:35 PM (J+mig)
I go back to one of the very early debates, I think it was on Fox, and there was a fairly strong bias among the moderators to focus of Jeb! and Mario, and maybe some sniping at Trump, I don't remember. All I remember is they tossed a question to Cruz, and he started answering. One of the broads then said "oh sorry, we have to go to break."
And they did. They went to break, and when they came back they asked Jeb! or Mario or somebody else a question, and there was Ted. Allowing himself to get punked by a stupid bimbo Fox news broad.
He lost then and there. I love the guy, really I do, but he never stood a chance. Ever. Nor will he. Regardless of what happens this year.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (Dj0WE)
655
If you could snap your fingers and have The Wall in place and snap them again and have all the illegals vanish, who would be left here to do the work the illegals are doing now?
Americans.
Americans.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:40 PM (MQEz6)
656
/troublesome sock
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (R+30W)
657
"Trump greased the skids. What the fuck is Jeb doing giving Hillary a medal?"
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
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Trump needed to invite the Clintons to his wedding?
He needed to chat with his pal Bill before deciding to run? He needed to contribute to McConnell's anti-TeaParty group? He needed to contribute to Sleazeball McAuliffe in VA?
Needy fellow!
Neither Jeb!!! nor Trump are #NeverHillary.
Not ideologically or morally.
Sure, as candidates, they'd personally like to win the game. But they don't believe it makes a real difference to America's future.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
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Trump needed to invite the Clintons to his wedding?
He needed to chat with his pal Bill before deciding to run? He needed to contribute to McConnell's anti-TeaParty group? He needed to contribute to Sleazeball McAuliffe in VA?
Needy fellow!
Neither Jeb!!! nor Trump are #NeverHillary.
Not ideologically or morally.
Sure, as candidates, they'd personally like to win the game. But they don't believe it makes a real difference to America's future.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (T/5A0)
658
NeverTrumpers are basically post-American. They are part of the globalist managerial class. American Fortune 500 companies have been internationalizing themselves for decades and the globalist managerial class, including their favored pundits and politicians, now have more in common with each other than with ordinary Americans.
The tech companies may be the most post-American but the banking and finance industry is close behind.
The tech companies may be the most post-American but the banking and finance industry is close behind.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (k9m+Y)
659
Does anyone have any links to cogent arguments from the NeverTrumpers about WHY they think Trump would be worse than Hilary?
At this point, there are lots of people who are supporting him in the full awareness that it's a gamble. But given Hillary's badness, it's a gamble we're willing to take.
What are the people saying who think that gamble is NOT worth it, and why?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (L54EB)
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Many of them say that Trump has been a life-long democrat and hasn't changed his beliefs and will sully the good name of the republican party. While I agree with the first part, I think the republican party itself has sullied it's good name. Still, he has to be better than Hillary.
If you want a link, go to youtube and type watch a number of Ben Shapiro's recent videos, or go over to Monsterhunternation.com (Larry Corriea's website) and scroll down a ways to see his writing about Trump.
Does anyone have any links to cogent arguments from the NeverTrumpers about WHY they think Trump would be worse than Hilary?
At this point, there are lots of people who are supporting him in the full awareness that it's a gamble. But given Hillary's badness, it's a gamble we're willing to take.
What are the people saying who think that gamble is NOT worth it, and why?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:23 PM (L54EB)
----
Many of them say that Trump has been a life-long democrat and hasn't changed his beliefs and will sully the good name of the republican party. While I agree with the first part, I think the republican party itself has sullied it's good name. Still, he has to be better than Hillary.
If you want a link, go to youtube and type watch a number of Ben Shapiro's recent videos, or go over to Monsterhunternation.com (Larry Corriea's website) and scroll down a ways to see his writing about Trump.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (KlVdw)
660
Whose birth name was Amos Alphonsus Muzyad Yakhoob
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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Rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it? Melodious.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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Rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it? Melodious.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (OLNwX)
661
The establishment's chicanery ended up ensuring a
Trump primary win. The establishment then engaged in the biggest
indignant flounce in all of recorded history.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:39 PM (noWW6)
Exactly that. And I like that phrasing. "biggest indignant flounce in all of recorded history." I might have to borrow it.
Trump primary win. The establishment then engaged in the biggest
indignant flounce in all of recorded history.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:39 PM (noWW6)
Exactly that. And I like that phrasing. "biggest indignant flounce in all of recorded history." I might have to borrow it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:42 PM (J+mig)
662
I don't despair over Trump and Hillary. I'll do fine with either one. Why? Because that's my job and my goal, like always. Trump is easily superior to Hillary, so the vote part is easy.
I despair because after everything he has done since 2009, Obama has an approval rating close to 50%.
I despair because after everything he has done since 2009, Obama has an approval rating close to 50%.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at June 28, 2016 10:42 PM (3myMJ)
663
655
I'm reminded of who mowed my Grandparent's lawn untiltheywere well intotheir 70s.
___
My Granddad did.
655
I'm reminded of who mowed my Grandparent's lawn untiltheywere well intotheir 70s.
___
My Granddad did.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (H6376)
664
Don't kid yourself. President Newsom.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 28, 2016 10:26 PM (EZebt)
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I was getting to that.
Don't kid yourself. President Newsom.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 28, 2016 10:26 PM (EZebt)
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I was getting to that.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (5o5ek)
665
even if Trump wins, all we get is Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (9dfKD)
You don't. If Trump wins, we're sending you to Istanbul.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (9dfKD)
You don't. If Trump wins, we're sending you to Istanbul.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (Dj0WE)
666
Good night all.
If I stay any longer I might slit my wrists or something.
I'll try to dream of chocolates. Or maybe Paolo. Paolo covered in chocolates.
If I stay any longer I might slit my wrists or something.
I'll try to dream of chocolates. Or maybe Paolo. Paolo covered in chocolates.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (7lVbc)
667
Yeah, my motto is "If you want to feel young, handsome, thin and smell good, hang out with old fat ugly farters."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (NeFrd)
668
The current situation isn't good for the Chinese people, either. I figure that they're about where we were in 1900 regarding working conditions and environmental practices. They have hundreds if not thousands of mining deaths every year.
Easing some of the excessive regulations on business in America coupled with tariffs on Chinese products could improve conditions for workers and businesses in both countries.
Easing some of the excessive regulations on business in America coupled with tariffs on Chinese products could improve conditions for workers and businesses in both countries.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:44 PM (sdi6R)
669
I despair because after everything he has done since 2009, Obama has an approval rating close to 50%. Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at June 28, 2016 10:42 PM (3myMJ)________________________________________________________Take out his support from people who are dependent upon government assistance. His numbers wouldn't look so good.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:44 PM (H6376)
670
"Just really starting to wrap my head around the 9th through 12th uninterrupted years of Democratic misrule"
...aided and abetted by a duplicitous Republican Party.
Yeah, it's depressing all right.
...aided and abetted by a duplicitous Republican Party.
Yeah, it's depressing all right.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 28, 2016 10:45 PM (ZEzaq)
671
There is plenty of reason to dispair... even if Trump wins, all we get is Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (9dfKD)
Not true. We get Trump and a whole lot of wailing Democrats beclowning themselves. Always look on the bright side of life, red.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (9dfKD)
Not true. We get Trump and a whole lot of wailing Democrats beclowning themselves. Always look on the bright side of life, red.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:45 PM (J+mig)
672
Hysterical Ninnies everywhere violently object to being lumped in with Shep.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (Ndje9)
673
But we don't have free trade now. American
businesses are hamstrung by a million regulations and taxes, but all
they have to do is move their manufacturing to China and they get to pay
their workers a dollar a day and dump toxic sludge anywhere they want.
That's not exactly a level playing field.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
So rather than do something about the hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
businesses are hamstrung by a million regulations and taxes, but all
they have to do is move their manufacturing to China and they get to pay
their workers a dollar a day and dump toxic sludge anywhere they want.
That's not exactly a level playing field.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
So rather than do something about the hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
674
606 I'm not a woman, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I WAS a woman, I would find men to be disgusting, and would really really REALLY enjoy some of those pixy cute lezzies.
Why THANK YOU!
Why THANK YOU!
Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (k9m+Y)
675
Here's why the choice between Trump and Hil isn't as clear to me as it is to a lot of folks here.
I am a Constitutional Conservative who believes in small government, individual liberty, separation of powers, a limited executive, all that other stuff.
The GOPe hasn't done much more then pay lip service to those values for a while. Nonetheless, Constitutional Conservatism has been one of, if not the, nominal governing philosophies of the GOP for a while, even if the elites tend to do little to advance those ideals.
Trump is about as far from a Constitutional Conservative as you can get. He is a populist-nationalist with authoritarian tendencies - Trumpism.
The President sets the ideological bent of the party. W made the GOP Neo-Con for 16 years. Obama pushed the Dems left.
Trump's effect is already being felt. The media vehicles that had once claimed to follow Constitutionalism - FOX, Rush and most of Talk Radio - push Trumpism. The GOPe is falling in line with Trumpism - witness Boehner and Priebus.
Already, Constitutional Conservatism has lost its electoral vehicle and its media voice. If Trump becomes Pres, this will continue and worsen.
I don't think the nation is better off with two parties voicing authoritarian nonsense and Constitutionalism completely marginalized.
Hil will attack Conservatism, but she will cause it to retrench and try to fight back (possibly ineffectively). Trump will marginalize it from the inside out.
I am a Constitutional Conservative who believes in small government, individual liberty, separation of powers, a limited executive, all that other stuff.
The GOPe hasn't done much more then pay lip service to those values for a while. Nonetheless, Constitutional Conservatism has been one of, if not the, nominal governing philosophies of the GOP for a while, even if the elites tend to do little to advance those ideals.
Trump is about as far from a Constitutional Conservative as you can get. He is a populist-nationalist with authoritarian tendencies - Trumpism.
The President sets the ideological bent of the party. W made the GOP Neo-Con for 16 years. Obama pushed the Dems left.
Trump's effect is already being felt. The media vehicles that had once claimed to follow Constitutionalism - FOX, Rush and most of Talk Radio - push Trumpism. The GOPe is falling in line with Trumpism - witness Boehner and Priebus.
Already, Constitutional Conservatism has lost its electoral vehicle and its media voice. If Trump becomes Pres, this will continue and worsen.
I don't think the nation is better off with two parties voicing authoritarian nonsense and Constitutionalism completely marginalized.
Hil will attack Conservatism, but she will cause it to retrench and try to fight back (possibly ineffectively). Trump will marginalize it from the inside out.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:47 PM (X0SOM)
677
Don't despair folks. Always remember the wisdom of our Founding Farters...
George Whooshington...
Abraham Stinkin'...
Aaron Burrrrrrappp...
Thomas Jeffartson...
John H-uncork...
Paul Rev-rear...
George Whooshington...
Abraham Stinkin'...
Aaron Burrrrrrappp...
Thomas Jeffartson...
John H-uncork...
Paul Rev-rear...
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 10:47 PM (NeFrd)
678
You don't. If Trump wins, we're sending you to Istanbul.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Not until the new Crusades when we re-rename it Constantinople.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Not until the new Crusades when we re-rename it Constantinople.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:47 PM (9dfKD)
679
He's not coming back from a 15% (or whatever the hell it is) favorability rating with women. Come on folks even Palin's numbers never got that bad.
In any event not sure I understand or want to understand the millions of people who are looking forward to voting for Hillary. Most of whom would vote for her regardless of who she was running against.
In any event not sure I understand or want to understand the millions of people who are looking forward to voting for Hillary. Most of whom would vote for her regardless of who she was running against.
Posted by: ADK46er at June 28, 2016 10:48 PM (AZ08z)
680
So rather than do something about the hamstringing,
you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That
makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
We can't deregulate to the point where we can keep up with no-regulation countries like Vietnam. We can't deregulate to the point where American wages can compete with slave wages.
We can punish them on our end. That's all we can really do about it. Or just embargo them altogether.
you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That
makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
We can't deregulate to the point where we can keep up with no-regulation countries like Vietnam. We can't deregulate to the point where American wages can compete with slave wages.
We can punish them on our end. That's all we can really do about it. Or just embargo them altogether.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:48 PM (J+mig)
681
Take out his support from people who are dependent upon government assistance. His numbers wouldn't look so good.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:44 PM (H6376)
I think there is a high correlation between Obama supporters and folks who still think OJ didn't do it.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:44 PM (H6376)
I think there is a high correlation between Obama supporters and folks who still think OJ didn't do it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (Dj0WE)
682
I despair because after everything he has done since 2009, Obama has an approval rating close to 50%.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters
You can thank "journalism" for that. They did there job as proper gatekeepers for there god-king. Meanwhile Obama's court jesters in the entertainment industry did their jobs. Culture matters. Unfortunately, our culture is poison.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters
You can thank "journalism" for that. They did there job as proper gatekeepers for there god-king. Meanwhile Obama's court jesters in the entertainment industry did their jobs. Culture matters. Unfortunately, our culture is poison.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (syGA0)
683
So rather than do something about the hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
684
I'll also protect you from really late ONTs. I mean really, who is this Meatlocker guy? If you want a classy late night posting, you need to go with a thread brought to you buy Trump Steaks. It'll be fantastic. Improve morale bigly. Good!
Posted by: D. Trump at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (H9MG5)
685
So on another note, what do people think are the odds of Hillary picking Fauxchohantas as her running mate?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (frf5f)
686
Fox followed Constitutionalism? I must have missed that between Shep Smith wailing constantly and them having every one they could pushing amnesty.
Posted by: GOPe Platform at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (bMG0w)
687
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 10:41 PM (T/5A0)
Trump greased the skids in more ways than one.
Now he attacks Hillary.
Why did Jeb give Hillary a medal?
Trump greased the skids in more ways than one.
Now he attacks Hillary.
Why did Jeb give Hillary a medal?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (MQEz6)
688
675 - After Hillary makes 2 to 3 SCOTUS picks, your 'Constitutional conservatism' will make nice fodder for academic discussion, but that's about it.
675 - After Hillary makes 2 to 3 SCOTUS picks, your 'Constitutional conservatism' will make nice fodder for academic discussion, but that's about it.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (H6376)
689
I'm reminded of who mowed my Grandparent's lawn untiltheywere well intotheir 70s.
___
My Granddad did.
******
"Hey, me! Get off my lawn!"
___
My Granddad did.
******
"Hey, me! Get off my lawn!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon-Granddad at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (R+30W)
691
The Gini coefficient for South Africa (a technical measure of income inequality) is worse now than during the apartheid years. This has happened during continuous ANC rule since the end of apartheid. I guaran-damn-tee you the outcome of the next election in South Africa: the country's blacks will vote to retain the ANC in power.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (noWW6)
torquewrench, Detroit, which is something like 90% black, voted in a white businessman as mayor last year. Yes, he's a Democrat, but has a solid record of business and turnaround experience. At some point, regardless of color or ethnicity, people wake up and realize that doing the same thing over and over isn't getting them anywhere.
Look up Mike Duggan, current mayor of Detroit. He was elected as as write in candidate in the primary, believe it or not.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:24 PM (noWW6)
torquewrench, Detroit, which is something like 90% black, voted in a white businessman as mayor last year. Yes, he's a Democrat, but has a solid record of business and turnaround experience. At some point, regardless of color or ethnicity, people wake up and realize that doing the same thing over and over isn't getting them anywhere.
Look up Mike Duggan, current mayor of Detroit. He was elected as as write in candidate in the primary, believe it or not.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (PiuBB)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (0mRoj)
693
I think Ace might have been conflating Catherine de'Medici and Lucrezia Borgia or the like.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (A/+my)
Posted by: Hillary! at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (OLNwX)
695
Hil will attack Conservatism, but she will cause it to retrench and try to fight back (possibly ineffectively). Trump will marginalize it from the inside out.
Posted by: person
Oh, that's an interesting take.
Posted by: person
Oh, that's an interesting take.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (1xUj/)
696
So rather than do something about the hamstringing,
you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That
makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
Yup, right there in the transcripts,"If I win, I'll go all Smoot-Hawley."
- DJ Trump
you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That
makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
Yup, right there in the transcripts,"If I win, I'll go all Smoot-Hawley."
- DJ Trump
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (P/kVC)
697
683 So rather than do something about the hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
It sounds like you are not paying attention.
Reciting things you read in a book is for schoolkids.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
It sounds like you are not paying attention.
Reciting things you read in a book is for schoolkids.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (MQEz6)
698
You don't. If Trump wins, we're sending you to Istanbul.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Not until the new Crusades when we re-rename it Constantinople.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:47 PM (9dfKD)
Take you back to Constantinople? No, you can't go back to Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Not until the new Crusades when we re-rename it Constantinople.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:47 PM (9dfKD)
Take you back to Constantinople? No, you can't go back to Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (Dj0WE)
699
I think there is a high correlation between Obama supporters and folks who still think OJ didn't do it. Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (Dj0WE)________________Agree.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (H6376)
700
Biden and Fauxchohantas are in the bullpen warming up to relieve Hillary.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (X0SOM)
701
Trivia: Istanbul means "the city" (more or less) which was kind of its nickname even when it was still Constantinople.
The official name after the Ottomans captured it was Islambol (where Islam abounds)
The official name after the Ottomans captured it was Islambol (where Islam abounds)
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:52 PM (7lVbc)
702
Doesn't everyone fart in elevators? They're fantastic! You fart in a moving box that you get to step out of while your gassy emissions get to spread from floor to floor.
PS if you can smell my fart it means that a particle of gas that was inside my asshole is now IN YOUR NOSE. Sleep on that!
PS if you can smell my fart it means that a particle of gas that was inside my asshole is now IN YOUR NOSE. Sleep on that!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 28, 2016 10:52 PM (+b2T3)
703
The objection to tariffs overlooks one thing. We NEED the money.
Just the federal government alone requires that we feed it 3-4 trillion dollars every year. Not to mention the voracious appetite for money of state and municipal and local governments.
A consumption tax is a better way to collect the money than an income tax. And a tax on consuming Chinese goods makes a lot of sense.
When a factory relocates to China or simply closes because it was defeated by Chinese competition, we lose a big chunk of tax base. The least we can do, even apart from the effect of helping American industry, is to collect taxes on Chinese goods to make up for the lost tax base and as an economically preferable way to fund the government than through relying so heavily on an income tax.
Just the federal government alone requires that we feed it 3-4 trillion dollars every year. Not to mention the voracious appetite for money of state and municipal and local governments.
A consumption tax is a better way to collect the money than an income tax. And a tax on consuming Chinese goods makes a lot of sense.
When a factory relocates to China or simply closes because it was defeated by Chinese competition, we lose a big chunk of tax base. The least we can do, even apart from the effect of helping American industry, is to collect taxes on Chinese goods to make up for the lost tax base and as an economically preferable way to fund the government than through relying so heavily on an income tax.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 10:52 PM (k9m+Y)
704
Trump will marginalize it from the inside out.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (mFkVC)
You mean more than Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan have?
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (mFkVC)
You mean more than Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan have?
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (J+mig)
705
We can't deregulate to the point where we can keep
up with no-regulation countries like Vietnam. We can't deregulate to the
point where American wages can compete with slave wages.
We can punish them on our end. That's all we can really do about it. Or just embargo them altogether.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:48 PM (J+mig)
Bulshit... every regulation that is strangling business can be killed the same way they were promulgated. And the benefits of free trade are unilateral. That means you don't need the other guy to do the good or right (or "fair") thing in order to benefit yourself.
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
up with no-regulation countries like Vietnam. We can't deregulate to the
point where American wages can compete with slave wages.
We can punish them on our end. That's all we can really do about it. Or just embargo them altogether.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:48 PM (J+mig)
Bulshit... every regulation that is strangling business can be killed the same way they were promulgated. And the benefits of free trade are unilateral. That means you don't need the other guy to do the good or right (or "fair") thing in order to benefit yourself.
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (9dfKD)
706
675
I am a Constitutional Conservative who believes in small government, individual liberty, separation of powers, a limited executive, all that other stuff.
The GOPe hasn't done much more then pay lip service to those values for a while.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (mFkVC)
So am I.
The only time the GOPe pays lip service to those principles is when they are trying to get re-elected. The rest of the time they are elbowing Democrats aside to get their noses in the trough.
I am a Constitutional Conservative who believes in small government, individual liberty, separation of powers, a limited executive, all that other stuff.
The GOPe hasn't done much more then pay lip service to those values for a while.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (mFkVC)
So am I.
The only time the GOPe pays lip service to those principles is when they are trying to get re-elected. The rest of the time they are elbowing Democrats aside to get their noses in the trough.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (sdi6R)
707
Tariffs don't bring money they bring unemployment and a higher cost of goods.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (X0SOM)
708
I think Ace might have been conflating Catherine de'Medici and Lucrezia Borgia or the like.
LOL. Well he did get a little confused thinking rosemary was the name for a rosary.
LOL. Well he did get a little confused thinking rosemary was the name for a rosary.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:54 PM (frf5f)
709
Voting for Hillary will revive conservatism!
11th dimensional chess ftw!
11th dimensional chess ftw!
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:54 PM (7lVbc)
710
Paolo cover you in cioccolati, mia bella. Cover you.
Posted by: paolo at June 28, 2016 10:54 PM (A/+my)
711
The least we can do, even apart from the effect of
helping American industry, is to collect taxes on Chinese goods to make
up for the lost tax base and as an economically preferable way to fund
the government than through relying so heavily on an income tax.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 10:52 PM (k9m+Y)
And relying entirely on taxing incomes when incomes are stagnant* (in reality, falling, thanks to the magic of inflation) is a losing proposition.
helping American industry, is to collect taxes on Chinese goods to make
up for the lost tax base and as an economically preferable way to fund
the government than through relying so heavily on an income tax.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 10:52 PM (k9m+Y)
And relying entirely on taxing incomes when incomes are stagnant* (in reality, falling, thanks to the magic of inflation) is a losing proposition.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (J+mig)
712
What a terrible time to be alive. And Shep's back on.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM
They're eatin people at the Istanbull Airport.
hysteric Shemp
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 08:27 PM
They're eatin people at the Istanbull Airport.
hysteric Shemp
Posted by: Farmer at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (o/90i)
713
This is not a good place to be.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
Ok, I agree. But I will counter with the following:
While "we" are supposed to be conservatives (econ and social), I think there's a fair argument to be made that the GOP has not really been that for about a couple of decades now, esp. considering our last president and our last two presidential candidates. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" was just big govt dressed up with a GOP blessing, and McCain and Romney each had a lot of similar issues.
So if Trump breaks with some, even several, generally understood "conservatism" points, how is that different from the past 16 years? And if Trump really is not that different, then why choose now as the time to stop holding your nose?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:30 PM (1xUj/)
Ok, I agree. But I will counter with the following:
While "we" are supposed to be conservatives (econ and social), I think there's a fair argument to be made that the GOP has not really been that for about a couple of decades now, esp. considering our last president and our last two presidential candidates. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" was just big govt dressed up with a GOP blessing, and McCain and Romney each had a lot of similar issues.
So if Trump breaks with some, even several, generally understood "conservatism" points, how is that different from the past 16 years? And if Trump really is not that different, then why choose now as the time to stop holding your nose?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (L54EB)
714
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
I remember my first Principle. Rotten old nun, when rubbery jowls, and a nasty habit (get it?) of spitting when she snarled at you.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
I remember my first Principle. Rotten old nun, when rubbery jowls, and a nasty habit (get it?) of spitting when she snarled at you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (Dj0WE)
715
Back from the MST3K Rifftrax-a-palooza. All shorts, all the hosts, so much fun. The two words that got the biggest laff from me? "Sylvia Plath".
So now I'm just posting to immanentize the ONT.
So now I'm just posting to immanentize the ONT.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (jR7Wy)
716
If we get Trump we get NOT Hillary SCOTUS.
Also the Trump is most certainly about free trade just not STUPID free trade.
Also the Trump is most certainly about free trade just not STUPID free trade.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (qUNWi)
717
So rather than do something about the
hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all
Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
I'm an economist so it's my job
hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all
Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh thank you, redbanzai.
I knew there would be someone else who remembered first principles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:49 PM (1xUj/)
I'm an economist so it's my job
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (9dfKD)
718
579 Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (qUNWi)
If nobody answered yet, barbs and venom. Also wasps re-sting.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (qUNWi)
If nobody answered yet, barbs and venom. Also wasps re-sting.
Posted by: SarahW at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (Sp1NT)
719
It sounds like you are not paying attention.
Reciting things you read in a book is for schoolkids.
Posted by: eman
Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that I learned it in school because that's credentialist.
If we had a chalkboard, though, I could draw two simple diagrams which show that protectionism hurts the protectionist side, whether it's quotas or tariffs.
It's just supply and demand curves and what happens to them with protectionism. There's an area under the curve which represents lost value.
Reciting things you read in a book is for schoolkids.
Posted by: eman
Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that I learned it in school because that's credentialist.
If we had a chalkboard, though, I could draw two simple diagrams which show that protectionism hurts the protectionist side, whether it's quotas or tariffs.
It's just supply and demand curves and what happens to them with protectionism. There's an area under the curve which represents lost value.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (1xUj/)
720
I think Lucetia Borgia was more sinned against than sinning-the tool of her family, whereas Catherine D'Medici really was one nasty woman. I don't know about Olivia De'Medici. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (frf5f)
721
You mean more than Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan have?
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (J+mig)
---------------------------------
We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our desired goal.
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (J+mig)
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We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
722
Just the federal government alone requires that we feed it 3-4 trillion dollars every year.
No, they would like that we feed it $3-4 trillion every year.
No, they would like that we feed it $3-4 trillion every year.
Posted by: t-bird at June 28, 2016 10:57 PM (OLNwX)
723
If nobody answered yet, barbs and venom. Also wasps re-sting.
Yeah my dumb question was answered. Also wasps suck.
Yeah my dumb question was answered. Also wasps suck.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:57 PM (qUNWi)
724
563
Oh, Man. I got this bee on my arm.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)
As long as it's not THAT bee....
Oh, Man. I got this bee on my arm.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)
As long as it's not THAT bee....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (EzgxV)
725
I prefer we punch other countries in the nose and then ask them if they want to keep fucking with us.
Labor is cheap in China and slave labor is the yummiest? Good for you. Here's a tarrif.
Labor is cheap in China and slave labor is the yummiest? Good for you. Here's a tarrif.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (MQEz6)
726
every regulation that is strangling business can be killed the same way they were promulgated. And the benefits of free trade are unilateral. That means you don't need the other guy to do the good or right (or "fair") thing in order to benefit yourself.
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (9dfKD)
It's easy to deregulate you don't even need a phone. All you need is a line-out pen.
Talk about a money maker.
Eliminate the Acronyms and fire the regulators.
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (9dfKD)
It's easy to deregulate you don't even need a phone. All you need is a line-out pen.
Talk about a money maker.
Eliminate the Acronyms and fire the regulators.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (X0SOM)
727
If nobody answered yet, barbs and venom. Also wasps re-sting.
*****
Ahhh...the dreaded Vespid Right Wing Conspiracy theory.
*****
Ahhh...the dreaded Vespid Right Wing Conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon-Granddad at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (NeFrd)
728
The intern story in the sidebar is hilarious.
This is why one needs a summer job is HS and/or college - it teaches you humility and how to follow the boss (and rules) - regardless of what you think of your boss because you work for him/her. Seems that never occurred to them. *snort*
This is why one needs a summer job is HS and/or college - it teaches you humility and how to follow the boss (and rules) - regardless of what you think of your boss because you work for him/her. Seems that never occurred to them. *snort*
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (NOIQH)
729
The Nevertrumpers do have the option of supporting Trump now, and getting behind a primary challenger in 2020 if he betrays his supporters and delights the people who hate him by governing as a liberal. The grassroots and the establishment would be united if that were to happen.
The Nevertrumpers do have the option of supporting Trump now, and getting behind a primary challenger in 2020 if he betrays his supporters and delights the people who hate him by governing as a liberal. The grassroots and the establishment would be united if that were to happen.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (H6376)
730
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM
---
A question for you: why do you think that conservatism will be stronger under Hillary?
Has it become stronger under Obama?
If anything, Obama has turned most elected Republicans into Democrats. Can you guarantee that a Hillary presidency will not eliminate the concept of conservatism entirely?
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A question for you: why do you think that conservatism will be stronger under Hillary?
Has it become stronger under Obama?
If anything, Obama has turned most elected Republicans into Democrats. Can you guarantee that a Hillary presidency will not eliminate the concept of conservatism entirely?
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 10:58 PM (tvyXw)
731
>>>So on another note, what do people think are the odds of Hillary picking Fauxchohantas as her running mate?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (frf5f)<<<
No way. They're too similar. Hillary will be jealous that Sit-In Bull will be the charismatic darling (think I just threw up a bit) of the media and true proggies, while she does all the grunt work (a little more vomit) and suffers more of the slings and arrows while destroying the remnants of America that SCOAMF couldn't finish off.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 10:50 PM (frf5f)<<<
No way. They're too similar. Hillary will be jealous that Sit-In Bull will be the charismatic darling (think I just threw up a bit) of the media and true proggies, while she does all the grunt work (a little more vomit) and suffers more of the slings and arrows while destroying the remnants of America that SCOAMF couldn't finish off.
Posted by: they'd never bury the hatchet at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (H9MG5)
732
721 You mean more than Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan have?
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (J+mig)
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We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
Our goal?
Your goal.
721 You mean more than Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan have?
Conservatism has been stabbed in the back by its own leadership. It's not going to get better until we have a change of personnel. For now, take any victory we can get, no matter how marginal. The party's going to need a lot of cleaning out if it's ever going to push a genuinely conservative agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (J+mig)
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We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
Our goal?
Your goal.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (MQEz6)
733
This is a depressing election. We could have had a legitimate candidate but our party nominated Obama with a combover. They are both clowns but due to the magic of media manipulation Obama could win a third term and trump is going to get wrecked. But hey the establishment sure was taught a lesson.
Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (h5OSp)
734
This election is not about principles
It's about people. It's about punishment. It's about revenge.
And we need to let it happen as an election because that's the most peaceful possible way it can. Because if it can't happen peacefully it will happen non peacefully.
It's about people. It's about punishment. It's about revenge.
And we need to let it happen as an election because that's the most peaceful possible way it can. Because if it can't happen peacefully it will happen non peacefully.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (7lVbc)
735
We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing
Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in
exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our
desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
So, it is Hillary then, right?
Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in
exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our
desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
So, it is Hillary then, right?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (P/kVC)
736
I remember my first Principle. Rotten old nun, when rubbery jowls, and a nasty habit (get it?) of spitting when she snarled at you.
You must be of a certain age. Nuns in habits were an everyday sight where I grew up in Catholicland.
I don't remember the last time I saw one.
You must be of a certain age. Nuns in habits were an everyday sight where I grew up in Catholicland.
I don't remember the last time I saw one.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (1xUj/)
737
579
Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (qUNWi)
Venom.
Hey...why do bee stings hurt like hell but getting stuck with a needle doesn't really hurt that bad?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 10:22 PM (qUNWi)
Venom.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2016 11:00 PM (EzgxV)
738
The house is on fire and people are arguing over what clothes to wear in front of the TV cameras.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 11:00 PM (wfv0g)
739
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople
Been a long time gone
Old Constantinople's still has Turkish delight
On a moonlight night
Evr'y gal in Constantinople
Is a Miss-stanbul, not Constantinople
So if you have a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can't say
(People just liked it better that way)
Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople
Been a long time gone
Old Constantinople's still has Turkish delight
On a moonlight night
Evr'y gal in Constantinople
Is a Miss-stanbul, not Constantinople
So if you have a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can't say
(People just liked it better that way)
Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Posted by: Jimmy Kennedy and Nat Simon at June 28, 2016 11:00 PM (k9m+Y)
740
We absolutely need a change of personnel.
Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is
going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from
our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
We're already as far from our desired goal as we can get. We're about to lose it all. Do you not understand that? If we get Hillary, we do lose it all. That's it. We get another Kagan or Sotomayor, the Constitution goes out the window, Amnesty goes into effect, an expedited pathway to citizenship will be created, and the whole country goes solid blue in a wave of new Democrat voters.
Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is
going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from
our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
We're already as far from our desired goal as we can get. We're about to lose it all. Do you not understand that? If we get Hillary, we do lose it all. That's it. We get another Kagan or Sotomayor, the Constitution goes out the window, Amnesty goes into effect, an expedited pathway to citizenship will be created, and the whole country goes solid blue in a wave of new Democrat voters.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (J+mig)
741
623--- Nevertrumpers don't have that much on the line.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters have are at the end of their ropes.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (7lVbc)
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I think that's a very good point.
I think that may explain the GOPer-Nevertrumpers as concisely and fairly as possible.
It may also explain why the vast majority of conservatives who detest Trump are not really Nevertrumpers. They're OMG-I'm-really-going-to-have-to-vote-for-this-POS people.
Like Trumpers, they are at the end of their ropes.
Hence they prefer status quo.
Trump voters have are at the end of their ropes.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 10:33 PM (7lVbc)
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I think that's a very good point.
I think that may explain the GOPer-Nevertrumpers as concisely and fairly as possible.
It may also explain why the vast majority of conservatives who detest Trump are not really Nevertrumpers. They're OMG-I'm-really-going-to-have-to-vote-for-this-POS people.
Like Trumpers, they are at the end of their ropes.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
743
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (1xUj/)
The part you failed to hear is the part that said free trade is not happening anywhere near as much as you think it is.
The part you failed to hear is the part that said free trade is not happening anywhere near as much as you think it is.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (MQEz6)
744
And the benefits of free trade are unilateral. That means you don't need the other guy to do the good or right (or "fair") thing in order to benefit yourself.
I don't like your abuse of the term "unilateral" ... But, in any event, unthinking and reflexive "free trade" is not necessarily beneficial. It seems odd that people easily buy into the idea that there is some sort of perfect idea that bears nothing but good, healthy fruit, at no cost. It is amazing since we have never seen anything that operates in that way. NOTHING. But ... "unthinking, totally free trade with anyone and everyone" does exactly that! At last, a perpetual motion machine that works!
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (9dfKD)
I think you're taking serious liberties with the term "creative destruction". Not all destruction frees things up for good use and not all creation involves things that are worthwhile. There's a little more to the whole concept of trade and the more important ideas of nation-states and their sovereignty.
I don't like your abuse of the term "unilateral" ... But, in any event, unthinking and reflexive "free trade" is not necessarily beneficial. It seems odd that people easily buy into the idea that there is some sort of perfect idea that bears nothing but good, healthy fruit, at no cost. It is amazing since we have never seen anything that operates in that way. NOTHING. But ... "unthinking, totally free trade with anyone and everyone" does exactly that! At last, a perpetual motion machine that works!
Capitalism is creative destruction... free up the creative part because if you try to stop the destruction a) it won't work and b) you kill even more jobs here by trying.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:53 PM (9dfKD)
I think you're taking serious liberties with the term "creative destruction". Not all destruction frees things up for good use and not all creation involves things that are worthwhile. There's a little more to the whole concept of trade and the more important ideas of nation-states and their sovereignty.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (L7t0A)
745
soemthing interesting has come out of Brexit - old friends of mine from Malaysia who are politically active are starting to look at ASEAN pacts and SEA pacts and asking the question 'what the hell has it ever done for us'? China is definitely not happy with that kind of talk.
Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (kLdzC)
746
So, it is Hillary then, right?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (P/kVC)
We are debating different flavors of awful. Hope for a positive outcome died in Indiana.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (P/kVC)
We are debating different flavors of awful. Hope for a positive outcome died in Indiana.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:02 PM (mFkVC)
747
>>>So on another note, what do people think are the odds of Hillary picking Fauxchohantas as her running mate?
There can be only one queen.
There can be only one queen.
Posted by: bee at June 28, 2016 11:02 PM (XVTvT)
748
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (1xUj/)
One doesn't tend to see them, because I think Vatican II allowed for more moderation in religious attire if you want to see nuts in habits-the longer habits you'd have to go to a contemplative order like Benedictines or some of the some Franciscans and others.
One doesn't tend to see them, because I think Vatican II allowed for more moderation in religious attire if you want to see nuts in habits-the longer habits you'd have to go to a contemplative order like Benedictines or some of the some Franciscans and others.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (frf5f)
749
I have a goal that maybe just maybe that Congress will actually start taking back some of the power its given to the executive branch and roll back the executive over reach.
That's much more plausible with Trump than it is with Hillary.
That's much more plausible with Trump than it is with Hillary.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (bMG0w)
750
Trump is the burning.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (7lVbc)
751
Take you back to Constantinople? No, you can't go back to Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (Dj0WE)
________
Where I live (Upstate New Amsterdam) we still call it Constantinople.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (Dj0WE)
________
Where I live (Upstate New Amsterdam) we still call it Constantinople.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (zYEmP)
752
If we had a chalkboard, though, I could draw two simple diagrams which show that protectionism hurts the protectionist side, whether it's quotas or tariffs.
It's just supply and demand curves and what happens to them with protectionism. There's an area under the curve which represents lost value.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (1xUj/)
Oy. Just ... oy.
It's just supply and demand curves and what happens to them with protectionism. There's an area under the curve which represents lost value.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (1xUj/)
Oy. Just ... oy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (L7t0A)
753
We're about to lose it all. Do you not understand that? If we get Hillary, we do lose it all.
If Hillary is elected we'll never be again.
If Hillary is elected we'll never be again.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (X0SOM)
754
Hey, you guys see the news up on Drudge? Jihadis blew themselves up at Ataturk airport, death total 50+.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (ry4ab)
755
So, it is Hillary then, right?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (P/kVC)
We are debating different flavors of awful. Hope for a positive outcome died in Indiana.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:02 PM (mFkVC)
'We' are old enough to remember when Hillary was fairly characterized as 'Stalinist', aren't we?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (P/kVC)
We are debating different flavors of awful. Hope for a positive outcome died in Indiana.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:02 PM (mFkVC)
'We' are old enough to remember when Hillary was fairly characterized as 'Stalinist', aren't we?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (P/kVC)
756
You must be of a certain age.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (1xUj/)
Or possibly I'm pulling your leg.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:59 PM (1xUj/)
Or possibly I'm pulling your leg.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (h5OSp)
758
So, does NeverTrump= Yes to Globalism?
Does NeverTrump= Yes to Millions of Muslim Immigrants?
Does NeverTrump= Abortions for Everyone and Guns for the Chosen Few?
Just wanted to check.
Does NeverTrump= Yes to Millions of Muslim Immigrants?
Does NeverTrump= Abortions for Everyone and Guns for the Chosen Few?
Just wanted to check.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (tvyXw)
759
Trump doesn't hate America.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (qUNWi)
761
Of this were a horror movie the nevertrumpers would be the one girl hysterically panicking until someone slaps some sense into her.
Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (7lVbc)
762
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:51 PM (Dj0WE)
________
Where I live (Upstate New Amsterdam) we still call it Constantinople.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (zYEmP)
Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
________
Where I live (Upstate New Amsterdam) we still call it Constantinople.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (zYEmP)
Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM (Dj0WE)
763
Does NeverTrump= Abortions for Everyone and Guns for the Chosen Few?
Just wanted to check.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (tvyXw)
Actually, it's likely Trump = Abortions for Everyone and Guns for the Chosen Few
Just wanted to check.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:04 PM (tvyXw)
Actually, it's likely Trump = Abortions for Everyone and Guns for the Chosen Few
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM (mFkVC)
764
One doesn't tend to see them, because I think Vatican II allowed for more moderation in religious attire
Vatican II was 1962-ish?
In the late sixties in the Boston suburbs there were still nuns in habits everywhere. We moved to LessCatholicland in 1970, so I'm not sure where the inflection point was, but they stopped having habits.
Vatican II was 1962-ish?
In the late sixties in the Boston suburbs there were still nuns in habits everywhere. We moved to LessCatholicland in 1970, so I'm not sure where the inflection point was, but they stopped having habits.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (1xUj/)
765
759 Trump doesn't hate America.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (mFkVC)
The opposite is true.
Why do you think the Globalists resist him as strongly as they do?
His hair?
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (mFkVC)
The opposite is true.
Why do you think the Globalists resist him as strongly as they do?
His hair?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (MQEz6)
766
TRUMP IS THE FACE OF THE DARK UNDERBELLY OF A HUMANITY THAT CANNOT SEE ITSELF CLEARLY.
HE IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT!
TRUMP IS THE FACE OF THE DARK UNDERBELLY OF A HUMANITY THAT CANNOT SEE ITSELF CLEARLY.
HE IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (kdS6q)
767
The opposite is true.
Why do you think the Globalists resist him as strongly as they do?
His hair?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (MQEz6)
Magic Scalp Weasel lives rent-free in their heads.
Why do you think the Globalists resist him as strongly as they do?
His hair?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (MQEz6)
Magic Scalp Weasel lives rent-free in their heads.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (X0SOM)
769
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (tvyXw)
770
In the late sixties in the Boston suburbs there were still nuns in habits everywhere. We moved to LessCatholicland in 1970, so I'm not sure where the inflection point was, but they stopped having habits.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (1xUj/)
---
I saw plenty of nun's habits in San Francisco in the 80's.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (1xUj/)
---
I saw plenty of nun's habits in San Francisco in the 80's.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (jR7Wy)
771
759 Trump doesn't hate America.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (mFkVC)
OK, fuck him then. Let's all vote for Hillary.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:05 PM (mFkVC)
OK, fuck him then. Let's all vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (oKE6c)
772
I saw Thousand Year Maggot open for Cannibal Corpse in '95.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (0mRoj)
773
759
Trump doesn't hate America.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
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Trump believes in America, being American, and American exceptionalism more today than Obummer has believed it in his entire life. 'Nuff said. And that goes for the old hag buying her nomination too.
Trump doesn't hate America.
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 11:01 PM (qUNWi)
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
-------------
Trump believes in America, being American, and American exceptionalism more today than Obummer has believed it in his entire life. 'Nuff said. And that goes for the old hag buying her nomination too.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (ry4ab)
774
The Limerick of the Bees
Re: political games (how to win 'em)
Best attack with a shitload of venom
When attacking George Will
An old WASP like our Hill
Finds it's harder to sting through the denim.
Re: political games (how to win 'em)
Best attack with a shitload of venom
When attacking George Will
An old WASP like our Hill
Finds it's harder to sting through the denim.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon-Granddad at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (NeFrd)
775
715 Back from the MST3K Rifftrax-a-palooza. All shorts, all the hosts, so much fun. The two words that got the biggest laff from me? "Sylvia Plath".
So now I'm just posting to immanentize the ONT.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (jR7Wy)
That was good - "Shake hands with danger."
So now I'm just posting to immanentize the ONT.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 28, 2016 10:55 PM (jR7Wy)
That was good - "Shake hands with danger."
Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (7qAYi)
776
We don't have free trade. You don't get free trade with 1000 page trade agreements. That is just a collection of carve-outs for cronies.
Free trade is a one page agreement. "We won't tax your imports if you won't tax ours." There. That's free trade. We don't have that.
Free trade is a one page agreement. "We won't tax your imports if you won't tax ours." There. That's free trade. We don't have that.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (sdi6R)
777
I think trump is proud of America. I just wish he was less intellectually lazy and took the time to understand what used to make it great. Instead he spouts off random lowest common denominator bullshit. If he had taken this seriously , he could have won but he is a clown.
Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (h5OSp)
778
Apparently Bandersnatch is one of those who would not be hurt by Hillary.
Oh, I live in a state where my vote doesn't matter.
I'm just yelling at the internet.
Oh, I live in a state where my vote doesn't matter.
I'm just yelling at the internet.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (1xUj/)
779
"old friends of mine from Malaysia who are politically active are
starting to look at ASEAN pacts and SEA pacts and asking the question
'what the hell has it ever done for us'?"
Asian re-alignments could get awfully interesting.
I keep coming back to the admission against interest by a deputy assistant SECDEF a year or two ago, who said about the vaunted American "Pacific pivot" that "Candidly, it can't happen."
Can't happen because the USA isn't investing enough money to reconfigure for the ultra long range military operations required in the Pacific.
Once that hard fact becomes more broadly realized? There will be a lot of rapid rethinking regarding security coalitions and trade arrangements.
starting to look at ASEAN pacts and SEA pacts and asking the question
'what the hell has it ever done for us'?"
Asian re-alignments could get awfully interesting.
I keep coming back to the admission against interest by a deputy assistant SECDEF a year or two ago, who said about the vaunted American "Pacific pivot" that "Candidly, it can't happen."
Can't happen because the USA isn't investing enough money to reconfigure for the ultra long range military operations required in the Pacific.
Once that hard fact becomes more broadly realized? There will be a lot of rapid rethinking regarding security coalitions and trade arrangements.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 11:10 PM (noWW6)
780
Trump is the mind-killer
Trump is the little death that bring total annihilation
I will not Trump
I will allow the Trump to pass over me and through me.
And where Trump as gone
I will remain
Trump is the little death that bring total annihilation
I will not Trump
I will allow the Trump to pass over me and through me.
And where Trump as gone
I will remain
Posted by: Bene Hillarite at June 28, 2016 11:10 PM (7lVbc)
781
166 Karaoke on a first date???
Holy crap I'm wayyyy too introverted for that.
::shudder::
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (qUNWi)
My fav karaoke song for a first date, 'Give it Away'
"What I've got you've got to get it put it in you. "
Holy crap I'm wayyyy too introverted for that.
::shudder::
Posted by: eleven at June 28, 2016 08:39 PM (qUNWi)
My fav karaoke song for a first date, 'Give it Away'
"What I've got you've got to get it put it in you. "
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at June 28, 2016 11:10 PM (R1Yfk)
782
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (tvyXw)
No, 'it' is not confusing Trump with Obama.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (tvyXw)
No, 'it' is not confusing Trump with Obama.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (P/kVC)
783
TRUMP IS THE FACE OF THE DARK UNDERBELLY OF A HUMANITY THAT CANNOT SEE ITSELF CLEARLY.
HE IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (kdS6q)
And then he evolves. Or pupates. And then he will fly, oh yes he will.
I sure do appreciate your optimism on this, the darkest of threads.
HE IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (kdS6q)
And then he evolves. Or pupates. And then he will fly, oh yes he will.
I sure do appreciate your optimism on this, the darkest of threads.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (Dj0WE)
784
If Hillary is elected we'll never be again.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (X0SOM_______________________________________________________A lot of people don't seem to understand that. Thisisn't a normal election where if a Democrat wins the end result is that your taxes go up and the military budget gets cut. This is an EXISTENTIAL election. Electing a Republican in 2020 (fat chance) isn't going to undo the mortal wounds inflicted upon the country by a rabidly left wing Supreme Court.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:03 PM (X0SOM_______________________________________________________A lot of people don't seem to understand that. Thisisn't a normal election where if a Democrat wins the end result is that your taxes go up and the military budget gets cut. This is an EXISTENTIAL election. Electing a Republican in 2020 (fat chance) isn't going to undo the mortal wounds inflicted upon the country by a rabidly left wing Supreme Court.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (H6376)
785
So we heard from NeverTrumpers that the 5,000 page Obamacare with its myriad of government tribunals and commissions was an abomination. Okay, agree.
But the 55,000 page trade agreement which commissions a bevy of unaccountable international tribunals and committees to make decisions that the United States Congress is supposed to make under our system of government is just peachy, according to these self-styled conservatives.
This is how the EU became the non-democratic abomination it is, and how faceless EU bureaucrats decreed that the Brits could no longer even buy the tea kettles they like anymore.
But the 55,000 page trade agreement which commissions a bevy of unaccountable international tribunals and committees to make decisions that the United States Congress is supposed to make under our system of government is just peachy, according to these self-styled conservatives.
This is how the EU became the non-democratic abomination it is, and how faceless EU bureaucrats decreed that the Brits could no longer even buy the tea kettles they like anymore.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (k9m+Y)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (voOPb)
787
osted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:07 PM (1xUj/)
Yes, Vatican II was 62. However the changes in habits didn't happen immediately. It was a combination, IMO, of fewer women going into the religious orders and then ones they were going into either didn't requite habits or modified them
Yes, Vatican II was 62. However the changes in habits didn't happen immediately. It was a combination, IMO, of fewer women going into the religious orders and then ones they were going into either didn't requite habits or modified them
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (frf5f)
788
If he had taken this seriously , he could have won but he is a clown.
Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (h5OSp)
When serious people refuse to fix the problem or even acknowledge that they are there then a clown will have to do.
Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (h5OSp)
When serious people refuse to fix the problem or even acknowledge that they are there then a clown will have to do.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (bMG0w)
789
Circular firing squad slapfight time?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:12 PM (0mRoj)
790
I think trump is proud of America. I just wish he was less intellectually lazy and took the time to understand what used to make it great. Instead he spouts off random lowest common denominator bullshit. If he had taken this seriously, he could have won but he is a clown. Posted by: Jimmy Q Rustler Esq at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (h5OSp)
Nothing like a high-minded academic discourse on economics and politics to fire up the double-digit IQ set. A three-hour lecture on comparative advantage would blow American Idol out of the water on ratings.
Nothing like a high-minded academic discourse on economics and politics to fire up the double-digit IQ set. A three-hour lecture on comparative advantage would blow American Idol out of the water on ratings.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:12 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 28, 2016 11:12 PM (NeFrd)
792
I just wish he was less intellectually lazy and took the time to
understand what used to make it great. Instead he spouts off random
lowest common denominator bullshit. If he had taken this seriously , he
could have won but he is a clown.
---
Is he intellectually lazy, or is that the way the media is portraying him?
As for "he could have won," so, the election is tomorrow?
Oh wait, it's in FIVE months?
Never mind. I'm sure nothing will happen in the world, and everything will be exactly the same in November as it in on this particular day in June.
/same as it ever was..
understand what used to make it great. Instead he spouts off random
lowest common denominator bullshit. If he had taken this seriously , he
could have won but he is a clown.
---
Is he intellectually lazy, or is that the way the media is portraying him?
As for "he could have won," so, the election is tomorrow?
Oh wait, it's in FIVE months?
Never mind. I'm sure nothing will happen in the world, and everything will be exactly the same in November as it in on this particular day in June.
/same as it ever was..
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:12 PM (tvyXw)
Posted by: @votermom at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (zOTsN)
795
Trump believes in America, being American, and American exceptionalism more today than Obummer has believed it in his entire life. 'Nuff said. And that goes for the old hag buying her nomination too.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (ry4ab)
Trump believes in American Exceptionalism in much the same way Obama does - America is great to the extent that it supports him. He has said as much in direct reference to the notion of American Exceptionalism.
He insults POWs, brags about draft dodging, draws insulting and infantile moral equivalences between US and Russia, has no knowledge of the founding principles of the nation, and EXPLICITLY SAYS he doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:08 PM (ry4ab)
Trump believes in American Exceptionalism in much the same way Obama does - America is great to the extent that it supports him. He has said as much in direct reference to the notion of American Exceptionalism.
He insults POWs, brags about draft dodging, draws insulting and infantile moral equivalences between US and Russia, has no knowledge of the founding principles of the nation, and EXPLICITLY SAYS he doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
796
We absolutely need a change of personnel. Electing Trump and letting Trumpism completely redefine the party is going in exactly the wrong direction - it will move us much farther from our desired goal.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
I think this is the strongest principled argument against holding your nose for Trump.
But here's why I'm nervous:
1) If Trump loses, we get Hilary...who will move us VERY far away from our goal. And if she gets a couple of Supreme Court picks, then you can pretty much kiss our goal good-bye for the remainder of this generation. (not to mention all the lesser court picks)
2) If Trump loses, the GOPe will remain and crow vindictively about it. In other words, a Trump loss will not reshuffle the party deck, but it will fracture it, with the GOPe types hanging on in their districts as machine Democrats-lite. Again, that will ensure our goals remain very far off as well.
3) If Trump wins, yes, he gets a strong hand in redefining the party. But that will be against a background of division and strong internal opposition, which may give some opportunities for leverage.
4) The way I see it, the GOP is finished any way you slice it. The question is whether it will fracture now or after the election. I'd rather it happen after the election. I would rather have a minor say in the Trump coalition than no say at all under the Democrats.
5) Most important question: If Trump loses, how do you see conservatism rising and gaining support in the aftermath when having to contend against A) a hostile Clinton presidency & appointees, B) disillusioned Trump voters (who are probably not very conservative to begin with), & C) GOPe remainders who also were are not very conservative?
In other words, people say they're not supporting Trump because they want the party to go in a different direction. Ok, I understand and agree with that intention. But it seems to me extremely unlikely to happen in this era's politico-cultural climate. Moreover, while Trump is not conservative, I do see him not persecuting us like Hillary would, and therefore leaving us in a place to be able to rebuild.
What are your thoughts on that?
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 10:56 PM (mFkVC)
I think this is the strongest principled argument against holding your nose for Trump.
But here's why I'm nervous:
1) If Trump loses, we get Hilary...who will move us VERY far away from our goal. And if she gets a couple of Supreme Court picks, then you can pretty much kiss our goal good-bye for the remainder of this generation. (not to mention all the lesser court picks)
2) If Trump loses, the GOPe will remain and crow vindictively about it. In other words, a Trump loss will not reshuffle the party deck, but it will fracture it, with the GOPe types hanging on in their districts as machine Democrats-lite. Again, that will ensure our goals remain very far off as well.
3) If Trump wins, yes, he gets a strong hand in redefining the party. But that will be against a background of division and strong internal opposition, which may give some opportunities for leverage.
4) The way I see it, the GOP is finished any way you slice it. The question is whether it will fracture now or after the election. I'd rather it happen after the election. I would rather have a minor say in the Trump coalition than no say at all under the Democrats.
5) Most important question: If Trump loses, how do you see conservatism rising and gaining support in the aftermath when having to contend against A) a hostile Clinton presidency & appointees, B) disillusioned Trump voters (who are probably not very conservative to begin with), & C) GOPe remainders who also were are not very conservative?
In other words, people say they're not supporting Trump because they want the party to go in a different direction. Ok, I understand and agree with that intention. But it seems to me extremely unlikely to happen in this era's politico-cultural climate. Moreover, while Trump is not conservative, I do see him not persecuting us like Hillary would, and therefore leaving us in a place to be able to rebuild.
What are your thoughts on that?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (L54EB)
797
Circular firing squad slapfight time?
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (1xUj/)
798
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (H6376)
Exactly. Business as usual is over with. This is put up or shut up time. If we lose, the United States of America will exist in name only.
The first thing a Trump administration needs to do is prosecute Hillary for her corruption. If Hillary goes unprosecuted, we become a 3rd world country with a ruling class that does not have to live under the same laws everyone else does.
Would anyone else have the guts to prosecute Hillary? I don't think so.
Exactly. Business as usual is over with. This is put up or shut up time. If we lose, the United States of America will exist in name only.
The first thing a Trump administration needs to do is prosecute Hillary for her corruption. If Hillary goes unprosecuted, we become a 3rd world country with a ruling class that does not have to live under the same laws everyone else does.
Would anyone else have the guts to prosecute Hillary? I don't think so.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (zOTsN)
801
So rather than do something about the hamstringing, you are going with the guy who prefers to go all Smoot-Hawley. That makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
So, you think Hillary will roll back regulations of the EPA, or work rules, etc.?
I have yet to hear Trump, other than early in the primaries when he went after Whirlpool or whoever for moving to Mexico, say he is going to start slapping tariffs on every overseas company. He's not.
Trump's speech was set at Alumisource who supplies the steel and metals industry with basic ore additives. The steel industry is once again being decimated by foreign steel from China and indonesia, because those countries have virtually no work safety rules, no pollution controls, pay much lower wages and manipulate their currency. The gov. buys their own steel then dumps it here.
People can wax nostalgic about how tariffs were a problem 100 years ago, how wonderful Reagan's economy was almost 40 years ago(I can't listen to Levin carry on and on about Trump being a globalist, how tariffs will ruin the economy, and how great it was during Reagan). Tariffs are useful to fight this kind of one sided trade arrangements. They are a big stick. You use it when you need to , often on certain aspects of a specific industry. You use them to try to get the other side to start playing by the rules.
Tariffs come and go with changes in another country's behavior or have expiration dates.
We currently run thousands of different tariffs. Here is the database for the International Trade Commission and it's lookup of tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries come up, LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 10:46 PM (9dfKD)
So, you think Hillary will roll back regulations of the EPA, or work rules, etc.?
I have yet to hear Trump, other than early in the primaries when he went after Whirlpool or whoever for moving to Mexico, say he is going to start slapping tariffs on every overseas company. He's not.
Trump's speech was set at Alumisource who supplies the steel and metals industry with basic ore additives. The steel industry is once again being decimated by foreign steel from China and indonesia, because those countries have virtually no work safety rules, no pollution controls, pay much lower wages and manipulate their currency. The gov. buys their own steel then dumps it here.
People can wax nostalgic about how tariffs were a problem 100 years ago, how wonderful Reagan's economy was almost 40 years ago(I can't listen to Levin carry on and on about Trump being a globalist, how tariffs will ruin the economy, and how great it was during Reagan). Tariffs are useful to fight this kind of one sided trade arrangements. They are a big stick. You use it when you need to , often on certain aspects of a specific industry. You use them to try to get the other side to start playing by the rules.
Tariffs come and go with changes in another country's behavior or have expiration dates.
We currently run thousands of different tariffs. Here is the database for the International Trade Commission and it's lookup of tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries come up, LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (PiuBB)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (tvyXw)
804
797 Circular firing squad slapfight time?
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (1xUj/)
Seconded.
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (1xUj/)
Seconded.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (0mRoj)
805
LOL thunderbird
Posted by: @votermom at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (7lVbc)
806
769
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
--------
I heard that. The Donald definitely believes in America, he has made and lost multiple fortunes, landed on his feet (or at least jumped up after landing on his ass), and still can score a hawt blonde wife, and land a TV show informing LIV crowd they can still get fired for displeasing the boss.
Obummer has never had a job outside government, has never made a million bucks that didn't come from a political paycheck first, tells people they can be just like him every day, and is married to Grace Jones's commie sister.
He certainly doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism in any meaningful way.
--
LOL.
You're confusing Trump with Obama.
Trump is the white guy who owns real estate.
Obama is the half black son of a Communist who has never had a real job.
--------
I heard that. The Donald definitely believes in America, he has made and lost multiple fortunes, landed on his feet (or at least jumped up after landing on his ass), and still can score a hawt blonde wife, and land a TV show informing LIV crowd they can still get fired for displeasing the boss.
Obummer has never had a job outside government, has never made a million bucks that didn't come from a political paycheck first, tells people they can be just like him every day, and is married to Grace Jones's commie sister.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (ry4ab)
807
But the 55,000 page trade agreement which
commissions a bevy of unaccountable international tribunals and
committees to make decisions that the United States Congress is supposed
to make under our system of government is just peachy, according to
these self-styled conservatives.
This is how the EU became the non-democratic abomination it is, and
how faceless EU bureaucrats decreed that the Brits could no longer even
buy the tea kettles they like anymore.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (k9m+Y)
Trade agreements != trade. We don't have a trade agreement with the EU now. Neither does China. You can perfectly well trade without a trade agreement.See "Brexit the Movie" http://tinyurl.com/zpc48o8
commissions a bevy of unaccountable international tribunals and
committees to make decisions that the United States Congress is supposed
to make under our system of government is just peachy, according to
these self-styled conservatives.
This is how the EU became the non-democratic abomination it is, and
how faceless EU bureaucrats decreed that the Brits could no longer even
buy the tea kettles they like anymore.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (k9m+Y)
Trade agreements != trade. We don't have a trade agreement with the EU now. Neither does China. You can perfectly well trade without a trade agreement.See "Brexit the Movie" http://tinyurl.com/zpc48o8
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (oKE6c)
808
Knowing Trump's campaign, there won't be any organization of volunteers to even man the phone banks. He isn't running a real campaign.
Posted by: beegs at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (cxyn3)
Remember, all trolls are Average Joe, and Average Joe sucks cocks by choice.
Posted by: beegs at June 28, 2016 09:20 PM (cxyn3)
Remember, all trolls are Average Joe, and Average Joe sucks cocks by choice.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (GSdpU)
809
>>>Posted by: Bene Hillarite at June 28, 2016 11:10 PM (7lVbc)<<<
Don't you worship that British comedian who chased people all over the screen while playing that funny music?
Don't you worship that British comedian who chased people all over the screen while playing that funny music?
Posted by: the sleeper has... rolled over and gone back to sleep at June 28, 2016 11:15 PM (H9MG5)
810
804
797 Circular firing squad slapfight time?
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (1xUj/)
Seconded.
-----------
Lemme get some pillows...
797 Circular firing squad slapfight time?
If there are enough 'ettes still up I vote for a pillow fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (1xUj/)
Seconded.
-----------
Lemme get some pillows...
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (ry4ab)
811
The first thing a Trump administration needs to
do is prosecute Hillary for her corruption. If Hillary goes
unprosecuted, we become a 3rd world country with a ruling class that
does not have to live under the same laws everyone else does.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (J+mig)
WRT the ruling class, already there, as is most of the rest of the world.
But that is the normal state.
The first thing a Trump administration needs to
do is prosecute Hillary for her corruption. If Hillary goes
unprosecuted, we become a 3rd world country with a ruling class that
does not have to live under the same laws everyone else does.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (J+mig)
WRT the ruling class, already there, as is most of the rest of the world.
But that is the normal state.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (P/kVC)
812
Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM
The Brits took it from the Dutch, like militarily, like Obama can't do to anyone.
I'm still pissed, my Dutch ancestors owned several places in Manhattan, including on Wall St. Could they stay, heck no they left for the country in NJ.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM
The Brits took it from the Dutch, like militarily, like Obama can't do to anyone.
I'm still pissed, my Dutch ancestors owned several places in Manhattan, including on Wall St. Could they stay, heck no they left for the country in NJ.
Posted by: Farmer at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (zOTsN)
814
And you may ask yourself: well, how did I get here?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (0mRoj)
Mostly from the artistic input of Brian Eno, if I'm being honest.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (0mRoj)
Mostly from the artistic input of Brian Eno, if I'm being honest.
Posted by: D. Byrne at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (Dj0WE)
815
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
816
TRUMP...IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT
And then he evolves.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think it's like Pokemon.
He starts as Trump, but then evolves to Trumpotto and gains a new attack move.
TRUMP...IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT
And then he evolves.
Posted by: BurtTC
I think it's like Pokemon.
He starts as Trump, but then evolves to Trumpotto and gains a new attack move.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (sdi6R)
818
jumping to the bottom
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (HYnn0)
819
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
In a Monty Python skit this is the moment you explode.
In a Monty Python skit this is the moment you explode.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (MQEz6)
820
WRT the ruling class, already there, as is most of the rest of the world.
But that is the normal state.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (P/kVC)
It has already gotten to that point, but it's not beyond correction yet. If we lose, it will be, and that kind of outrageous, systemic corruption is the death of the Rule of Law and the beginning of tyranny.
But that is the normal state.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (P/kVC)
It has already gotten to that point, but it's not beyond correction yet. If we lose, it will be, and that kind of outrageous, systemic corruption is the death of the Rule of Law and the beginning of tyranny.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:18 PM (J+mig)
821
815 So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
He does not need to and she does.
815 So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
He does not need to and she does.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:18 PM (MQEz6)
822
and EXPLICITLY SAYS he doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
++++
Link?
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
++++
Link?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (R+30W)
823
Wow. Gotta virtue signal with some Rubio hate if you're gonna go less than 100% cheerleading for Trump, I guess. That's pretty sad.
Posted by: JohnJ at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (/Fy5y)
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (HYnn0)
825
Posted by: BurtTC
I think it's like Pokemon.
He starts as Trump, but then evolves to Trumpotto and gains a new attack move.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (kdS6q)
I could speak with some amount of expertise on this topic. But I won't. I don't want to distract from the talk of the relative merits of Smoot-Hawley.
I think it's like Pokemon.
He starts as Trump, but then evolves to Trumpotto and gains a new attack move.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (kdS6q)
I could speak with some amount of expertise on this topic. But I won't. I don't want to distract from the talk of the relative merits of Smoot-Hawley.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (p2X2f)
827
He starts as Trump, but then evolves to Trumpotto and gains a new attack move.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (kdS6q)
His final form is Trumpocalypse, which makes all of the pajama boys and feminazis lose their shit and rage-whine themselves to death.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:17 PM (kdS6q)
His final form is Trumpocalypse, which makes all of the pajama boys and feminazis lose their shit and rage-whine themselves to death.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:20 PM (J+mig)
828
"The steel industry is once again being decimated by foreign steel from China"
China is also decimating its own steel industry. They laid off 500,000 workers.
China is also decimating its own steel industry. They laid off 500,000 workers.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (UBBWX)
829
Trump's speech was set at Alumisource who supplies the steel and metals industry with basic ore additives. The steel industry is once again being decimated by foreign steel from China and indonesia, because those countries have virtually no work safety rules, no pollution controls, pay much lower wages and manipulate their currency. The gov. buys their own steel then dumps it here.
If they are selling us steel cheaper than we can make it we should buy it all and rebuild our Navy with it.
If they are selling us steel cheaper than we can make it we should buy it all and rebuild our Navy with it.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (X0SOM)
830
812 Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM
The Brits took it from the Dutch, like militarily, like Obama can't do to anyone.
I'm still pissed, my Dutch ancestors owned several places in Manhattan, including on Wall St. Could they stay, heck no they left for the country in NJ.
Posted by: Farmer at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (o/90i)
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
812 Even old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:06 PM
The Brits took it from the Dutch, like militarily, like Obama can't do to anyone.
I'm still pissed, my Dutch ancestors owned several places in Manhattan, including on Wall St. Could they stay, heck no they left for the country in NJ.
Posted by: Farmer at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (o/90i)
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (bMG0w)
831
We currently run thousands of different tariffs.
Here is the database for the International Trade Commission and it's
lookup of tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries
come up, LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (PiuBB)
Saved the link. Spent thirty seconds looking at 'steel'. Mostly tariffs on waste. The one that looked like usable material, the tariff was less than domestic regulatory burden and taxes --- the effective tariff was on domestic goods.
Here is the database for the International Trade Commission and it's
lookup of tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries
come up, LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (PiuBB)
Saved the link. Spent thirty seconds looking at 'steel'. Mostly tariffs on waste. The one that looked like usable material, the tariff was less than domestic regulatory burden and taxes --- the effective tariff was on domestic goods.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (P/kVC)
832
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?///
It's June and nobody that matters is watching?
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?///
It's June and nobody that matters is watching?
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (wfv0g)
833
so how much horse power does Hillary's broom need to move her 190 pound ass around at witch speed?
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (HYnn0)
834
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig
Sure.
The explanation is that you're better than Trump and his ridic voters.
Happy? Is your ego satisfied? Baby have binkie?
Posted by: Sexypig
Sure.
The explanation is that you're better than Trump and his ridic voters.
Happy? Is your ego satisfied? Baby have binkie?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (p2X2f)
835
Link?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (R+30W)
You'll be waiting a long time on that one.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (R+30W)
You'll be waiting a long time on that one.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (PiuBB)
836
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (bMG0w)
I've been hearing the song in my head all day. Apparently my day has been happier than some others.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (bMG0w)
I've been hearing the song in my head all day. Apparently my day has been happier than some others.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:22 PM (Dj0WE)
837
so how much horse power does Hillary's broom need to move her 190 pound ass around at witch speed?
Posted by: Jake
Witch 1 or Witch 2?
Engage!
so how much horse power does Hillary's broom need to move her 190 pound ass around at witch speed?
Posted by: Jake
Witch 1 or Witch 2?
Engage!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:22 PM (IqV8l)
838
Wo ist mein ONT?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (/WPPJ)
839
Hillary is as awful as awful can be.
I still think half of you are Judge Smails. "You'll get Trump and like it!".
I now vote for thread drift in the direction of elbows, crossbows, Sherman's March, or pillow fights.
I still think half of you are Judge Smails. "You'll get Trump and like it!".
I now vote for thread drift in the direction of elbows, crossbows, Sherman's March, or pillow fights.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (1xUj/)
840
i]and EXPLICITLY SAYS he doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
++++
Link?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (R+30W)
Yes. Link please.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (mFkVC)
++++
Link?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2016 11:19 PM (R+30W)
Yes. Link please.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (X0SOM)
841
Posted by: Jake at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (HYnn0)
I think that is an underestimation of her weight, but it's not the physical weight that's the problem-it's the massive ego, sense of entitlement and probably an enemies list that could reach from here to the moon
I think that is an underestimation of her weight, but it's not the physical weight that's the problem-it's the massive ego, sense of entitlement and probably an enemies list that could reach from here to the moon
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (frf5f)
842
Economists use to take the position that immigration was always and everywhere a good thing, that it was always the case that adding an additional human being to an economy was beneficial.
Then, grudgingly at first but then more widely accepted was the realization that open-borders immigration is not per se an economic benefit, when we have in view a welfare state like the United States. IIRC even Milton Friedman came to this view. However, I think Paul Ryan is still in the absolutist school on this.
But people need to recognize that open borders for goods manufactured with Third World dollar-a-day labor has a similar effect when displacing manufacturing industry in a welfare state like the United States. The shed workers don't just conveniently crawl off and die - they generate large economic and social costs for the welfare state.
Then, grudgingly at first but then more widely accepted was the realization that open-borders immigration is not per se an economic benefit, when we have in view a welfare state like the United States. IIRC even Milton Friedman came to this view. However, I think Paul Ryan is still in the absolutist school on this.
But people need to recognize that open borders for goods manufactured with Third World dollar-a-day labor has a similar effect when displacing manufacturing industry in a welfare state like the United States. The shed workers don't just conveniently crawl off and die - they generate large economic and social costs for the welfare state.
Posted by: Ranting McRantface at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (k9m+Y)
843
815
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
-----------------
Easy. Watch CNN, PMS-NBC, Fox Headlines for 24 hours straight. (Go on, I double-dog dare ya.) Count how many times Trump appears in a news story. Count how many times his image appears. (Do NOT take a drink every time!!) Count how many times his idea of the week/day/hour gets mentioned. Count how many times the liberal news hags say he is the worst thing EVER.
So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
-----------------
Easy. Watch CNN, PMS-NBC, Fox Headlines for 24 hours straight. (Go on, I double-dog dare ya.) Count how many times Trump appears in a news story. Count how many times his image appears. (Do NOT take a drink every time!!) Count how many times his idea of the week/day/hour gets mentioned. Count how many times the liberal news hags say he is the worst thing EVER.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (ry4ab)
844
"And if Trump really is not that different, then why choose now as the time to stop holding your nose?"
Haven't we spent the last four years girding ourselves to stop holding our nose this very election?
Do you seriously think there wouldn't be a strong #NeverMcConnell movement if by some quirk of fate he ran for and won the nomination? Or is it that you have a difficult time understanding that many conservatives view Trump in exactly the same way?
If Scalia hadn't died, I probably wouldn't vote for Trump, either (under present circumstances, I'd even vote for McConnell unless he chose Surrender Haley as his running mate). Its not like voting is an individually rational act in the first place, and many people need at least a little positive incentive to make the effort, and much more than that to try convince others to do the same.
Haven't we spent the last four years girding ourselves to stop holding our nose this very election?
Do you seriously think there wouldn't be a strong #NeverMcConnell movement if by some quirk of fate he ran for and won the nomination? Or is it that you have a difficult time understanding that many conservatives view Trump in exactly the same way?
If Scalia hadn't died, I probably wouldn't vote for Trump, either (under present circumstances, I'd even vote for McConnell unless he chose Surrender Haley as his running mate). Its not like voting is an individually rational act in the first place, and many people need at least a little positive incentive to make the effort, and much more than that to try convince others to do the same.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (KF8B+)
845
If they are selling us steel cheaper than we can make it we should buy it all and rebuild our Navy with it.///
The quality of what there selling aint what we used to make.
The quality of what there selling aint what we used to make.
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (wfv0g)
846
838 Wo ist mein ONT?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (/WPPJ)
Trump destroyed it with tariffs.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (/WPPJ)
Trump destroyed it with tariffs.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (0mRoj)
847
Ben Howe*
Is this entire presidential run just a long game for Trump to get trade rules he prefers for his businesses?
* NeverTrumper rejected by his wife, as he is by all civilized people
Given that his business is primary real estate, hard to see how international trade affects that.
You bald low-t castoff.
Ben Howe*
Is this entire presidential run just a long game for Trump to get trade rules he prefers for his businesses?
* NeverTrumper rejected by his wife, as he is by all civilized people
Given that his business is primary real estate, hard to see how international trade affects that.
You bald low-t castoff.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (kdS6q)
848
Longpillows or crosspillows?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (MQEz6)
849
815 So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
850
3) If Trump wins, yes, he gets a strong hand in redefining the party. But that will be against a background of division and strong internal opposition, which may give some opportunities for leverage.
4) The way I see it, the GOP is finished any way you slice it. The question is whether it will fracture now or after the election. I'd rather it happen after the election. I would rather have a minor say in the Trump coalition than no say at all under the Democrats.
5) Most important question: If Trump loses, how do you see conservatism rising and gaining support in the aftermath when having to contend against A) a hostile Clinton presidency & appointees, B) disillusioned Trump voters (who are probably not very conservative to begin with), & C) GOPe remainders who also were are not very conservative?
In other words, people say they're not supporting Trump because they want the party to go in a different direction. Ok, I understand and agree with that intention. But it seems to me extremely unlikely to happen in this era's politico-cultural climate. Moreover, while Trump is not conservative, I do see him not persecuting us like Hillary would, and therefore leaving us in a place to be able to rebuild.
What are your thoughts on that?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (L54EB)
-------------------
3) This is why if you are a Conservative who is going to hold their nose and vote Trump it seems counter-productive to rage against NeverTrump. If Constitutionalism is going to survive and rebuild during a Trump "reign," it will need some spokespeople who aren't tarnished by supporting Trumpism - guys like Cruz (who I hope does not endores). The best case seems to be Trump wins a very narrow victory but somehow a large, vociferous, and effective Conservative group coalesces in the House and Senate to oppose him. I have no idea how to bring this about, but excommunicating NeverTrumpers seems a bad idea.
4&5) We probably are looking at a major party realignment. The fault lines are too deep. Its vital to keep Conservatism loud during that process. Beyond that, I don't have any idea how to bring about a desirable outcome.
4) The way I see it, the GOP is finished any way you slice it. The question is whether it will fracture now or after the election. I'd rather it happen after the election. I would rather have a minor say in the Trump coalition than no say at all under the Democrats.
5) Most important question: If Trump loses, how do you see conservatism rising and gaining support in the aftermath when having to contend against A) a hostile Clinton presidency & appointees, B) disillusioned Trump voters (who are probably not very conservative to begin with), & C) GOPe remainders who also were are not very conservative?
In other words, people say they're not supporting Trump because they want the party to go in a different direction. Ok, I understand and agree with that intention. But it seems to me extremely unlikely to happen in this era's politico-cultural climate. Moreover, while Trump is not conservative, I do see him not persecuting us like Hillary would, and therefore leaving us in a place to be able to rebuild.
What are your thoughts on that?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:13 PM (L54EB)
-------------------
3) This is why if you are a Conservative who is going to hold their nose and vote Trump it seems counter-productive to rage against NeverTrump. If Constitutionalism is going to survive and rebuild during a Trump "reign," it will need some spokespeople who aren't tarnished by supporting Trumpism - guys like Cruz (who I hope does not endores). The best case seems to be Trump wins a very narrow victory but somehow a large, vociferous, and effective Conservative group coalesces in the House and Senate to oppose him. I have no idea how to bring this about, but excommunicating NeverTrumpers seems a bad idea.
4&5) We probably are looking at a major party realignment. The fault lines are too deep. Its vital to keep Conservatism loud during that process. Beyond that, I don't have any idea how to bring about a desirable outcome.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (mFkVC)
851
848 Longpillows or crosspillows?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (MQEz6)
Dirtypillows.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (MQEz6)
Dirtypillows.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)
852
815 So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
Yeah, good point. He needs to generate some name recognition.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
Yeah, good point. He needs to generate some name recognition.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:26 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2016 11:27 PM (p2X2f)
854
And then he evolves. Or pupates. And then he will fly, oh yes he will.
I sure do appreciate your optimism on this, the darkest of threads.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (Dj0WE)
My caterpillar didn't turn into a butterfly!
And then he evolves. Or pupates. And then he will fly, oh yes he will.
I sure do appreciate your optimism on this, the darkest of threads.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:11 PM (Dj0WE)
My caterpillar didn't turn into a butterfly!
Posted by: Thats a Cheeto at June 28, 2016 11:27 PM (R1Yfk)
855
Yeah, good point. He needs to generate some name recognition.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:26 PM (oKE6c)
How are people going to know who he is or what he stands for if he doesn't buy a half a trillion dollars worth of ads?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 11:26 PM (oKE6c)
How are people going to know who he is or what he stands for if he doesn't buy a half a trillion dollars worth of ads?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 28, 2016 11:27 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Willy J. at June 28, 2016 11:27 PM (wfv0g)
857
If they are selling us steel cheaper than we can make it we should buy it all and rebuild our Navy with it.///
The quality of what there selling aint what we used to make.
The American thing to do is to to buy it all up and use it against them.
The quality of what there selling aint what we used to make.
The American thing to do is to to buy it all up and use it against them.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:27 PM (X0SOM)
858
Yes. Link please.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (X0SOM)
----------------
He said it in Texas a month before he entered the race. Google "Trump" and "American Exceptionalism" and you should be able to find the video right away.
Yes. Link please.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (X0SOM)
----------------
He said it in Texas a month before he entered the race. Google "Trump" and "American Exceptionalism" and you should be able to find the video right away.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (mFkVC)
859
815 So, anyone here want to explain why Trump is spending zero dollars and Hillary is spending $26 million?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
------------------------------
He doesn't need to spend money.
He doesn't need to raise money.
He doesn't need an organization.
He doesn't need ads.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:16 PM (UBBWX)
------------------------------
He doesn't need to spend money.
He doesn't need to raise money.
He doesn't need an organization.
He doesn't need ads.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (T/5A0)
860
ONT up.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (0mRoj)
861
So, you think Hillary will roll back regulations of the EPA, or work rules, etc.?
I have yet to hear Trump, other than early in the primaries when he
went after Whirlpool or whoever for moving to Mexico, say he is going to
start slapping tariffs on every overseas company. He's not.
Trump's speech was set at Alumisource who supplies the steel and
metals industry with basic ore additives. The steel industry is once
again being decimated by foreign steel from China and indonesia, because
those countries have virtually no work safety rules, no pollution
controls, pay much lower wages and manipulate their currency. The gov.
buys their own steel then dumps it here.
People can wax nostalgic about how tariffs were a problem 100 years
ago, how wonderful Reagan's economy was almost 40 years ago(I can't
listen to Levin carry on and on about Trump being a globalist, how
tariffs will ruin the economy, and how great it was during Reagan).
Tariffs are useful to fight this kind of one sided trade arrangements.
They are a big stick. You use it when you need to , often on certain
aspects of a specific industry. You use them to try to get the other
side to start playing by the rules.
Tariffs come and go with changes in another country's behavior or have expiration dates.
We currently run thousands of different tariffs. Here is the
database for the International Trade Commission and it's lookup of
tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries come up,
LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (PiuBB)
I missed the part where I said Hillary was any better than Trump on trade. As far as I am concerned both their houses are poxxed and I will vote for neither.
I have yet to hear Trump, other than early in the primaries when he
went after Whirlpool or whoever for moving to Mexico, say he is going to
start slapping tariffs on every overseas company. He's not.
Trump's speech was set at Alumisource who supplies the steel and
metals industry with basic ore additives. The steel industry is once
again being decimated by foreign steel from China and indonesia, because
those countries have virtually no work safety rules, no pollution
controls, pay much lower wages and manipulate their currency. The gov.
buys their own steel then dumps it here.
People can wax nostalgic about how tariffs were a problem 100 years
ago, how wonderful Reagan's economy was almost 40 years ago(I can't
listen to Levin carry on and on about Trump being a globalist, how
tariffs will ruin the economy, and how great it was during Reagan).
Tariffs are useful to fight this kind of one sided trade arrangements.
They are a big stick. You use it when you need to , often on certain
aspects of a specific industry. You use them to try to get the other
side to start playing by the rules.
Tariffs come and go with changes in another country's behavior or have expiration dates.
We currently run thousands of different tariffs. Here is the
database for the International Trade Commission and it's lookup of
tariffs. Enter something like cotton and see how many entries come up,
LOL.
https://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff_current.asp
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:14 PM (PiuBB)
I missed the part where I said Hillary was any better than Trump on trade. As far as I am concerned both their houses are poxxed and I will vote for neither.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (9dfKD)
862
I don't know about Olivia De'Medici.
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Catherine's slutty little sister. She was so ill-behaved, the family disowned her, and erased her name from history
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Catherine's slutty little sister. She was so ill-behaved, the family disowned her, and erased her name from history
Posted by: Mike Hammer, rewriting history at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (ZxmMG)
863
Ben Shapiro*
Trumponomics is garbage stacked on other garbage stacked on flaming piles of dog crap
*Exactly three apples tall. Went to Harvard, but guess you can tell that.
Ben Shapiro*
Trumponomics is garbage stacked on other garbage stacked on flaming piles of dog crap
*Exactly three apples tall. Went to Harvard, but guess you can tell that.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (kdS6q)
864
Hmmm....
Free trade and the need for an Import/Export Bank funded by the Taxpayers.
I'll admit to being the least intelligent poster here so not getting the need should be expected.
GOP Values??
Free trade and the need for an Import/Export Bank funded by the Taxpayers.
I'll admit to being the least intelligent poster here so not getting the need should be expected.
GOP Values??
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (1xUj/)
866
I still think half of you are Judge Smails. "You'll get Trump and like it!".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (1xUj/)
Point of order:
For the most part Smails was right in Caddyshack. They made him out to be a dick but when you really get down to it he was just trying to protect a beautiful golf course and ... Rodney Dangerfield blasted music on the golf course and farted at the table.
And they were both cheaters, so that aspect was a wash.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (1xUj/)
Point of order:
For the most part Smails was right in Caddyshack. They made him out to be a dick but when you really get down to it he was just trying to protect a beautiful golf course and ... Rodney Dangerfield blasted music on the golf course and farted at the table.
And they were both cheaters, so that aspect was a wash.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (L7t0A)
867
Then what does the 'FY' in FYNQ stand for?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
Seamus! Good to see you. You had been reported missing. Chewed through the straps, did you?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- hasn't been paying attention at June 28, 2016 09:56 PM (NeFrd)
Seamus! Good to see you. You had been reported missing. Chewed through the straps, did you?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (GSdpU)
868
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Hah, the sign Plucky Duck gets splattered against is for the "Dewdrop Inn".
I don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the '60s or whenever.
Anyways ..
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Hah, the sign Plucky Duck gets splattered against is for the "Dewdrop Inn".
I don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the '60s or whenever.
Anyways ..
Posted by: back to your regularly scheduled programming at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (T+syn)
869
The spice must FLOW!!!
Posted by: U.S. COC at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (A/+my)
870
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/747986907162877952
https://twitter.com/realDenaldTrump/status/747995278029000710
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https://twitter.com/realDenaldTrump/status/747995278029000710
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Posted by: The FacePalming Hat at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (vBeA5)
871
Yes. Link please.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (X0SOM)
----------------
He said it in Texas a month before he entered the race. Google "Trump" and "American Exceptionalism" and you should be able to find the video right away.
Posted by: person at J.
No. You've been saying it. You verify it.
If you can't verify it it's void.
This statement has been bandied about tonight and should be verified or disclaimed.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:23 PM (X0SOM)
----------------
He said it in Texas a month before he entered the race. Google "Trump" and "American Exceptionalism" and you should be able to find the video right away.
Posted by: person at J.
No. You've been saying it. You verify it.
If you can't verify it it's void.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (X0SOM)
872
Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
If the delegates revolt, it ain't gonna be for the GOPe.
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
If the delegates revolt, it ain't gonna be for the GOPe.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (1xUj/)
874
Hmmm....
Free trade and the need for an Import/Export Bank funded by the Taxpayers.
I'll admit to being the least intelligent poster here so not getting the need should be expected.
GOP Values??
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (WVsWD)
The Im/Ex bank is pretty much the opposite of free trade.
Free trade and the need for an Import/Export Bank funded by the Taxpayers.
I'll admit to being the least intelligent poster here so not getting the need should be expected.
GOP Values??
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 28, 2016 11:28 PM (WVsWD)
The Im/Ex bank is pretty much the opposite of free trade.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:31 PM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 11:32 PM (H6376)
876
I think Trump has a good sense of the long game.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:32 PM (X0SOM)
877
No. You've been saying it. You verify it.
If you can't verify it it's void.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (X0SOM)
--------------------
It is on Right Scoop under the headline "JUST LIKE OBAMA: Trump just admitted he DOES NOT believe in American Exceptionalism" on June 7
No. You've been saying it. You verify it.
If you can't verify it it's void.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (X0SOM)
--------------------
It is on Right Scoop under the headline "JUST LIKE OBAMA: Trump just admitted he DOES NOT believe in American Exceptionalism" on June 7
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:33 PM (mFkVC)
878
Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
That and letting Hillary rack up hundreds of millions in 'favors owed'.
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
That and letting Hillary rack up hundreds of millions in 'favors owed'.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 28, 2016 11:33 PM (P/kVC)
879
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM
LMAO, TY buzzion.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM
LMAO, TY buzzion.
Posted by: Farmer at June 28, 2016 11:33 PM (o/90i)
880
Somebody needs a music education. I'm a fan of the They Might Be Giants version which I first heard on Tiny Toons.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Hah, the sign Plucky Duck gets splattered against is for the "Dewdrop Inn".
I
don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the
clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the
'60s or whenever.
Anyways ..
Posted by: back to your regularly scheduled programming at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (T+syn)
I have actually been to the Dewdrop Inn... it is a hole in the wall with pitted concrete floors. My granddad took us there when he took us to his old home place.
https://youtu.be/vsQrKZcYtqg
Hah, the sign Plucky Duck gets splattered against is for the "Dewdrop Inn".
I
don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the
clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the
'60s or whenever.
Anyways ..
Posted by: back to your regularly scheduled programming at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (T+syn)
I have actually been to the Dewdrop Inn... it is a hole in the wall with pitted concrete floors. My granddad took us there when he took us to his old home place.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:34 PM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:34 PM (X0SOM)
882
"The explanation is that you're better than Trump and his ridic voters."
I actually thought you guys would have an answer.
Like polls...skewed polls. I bought that too in 2012.
I actually thought you guys would have an answer.
Like polls...skewed polls. I bought that too in 2012.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:36 PM (UBBWX)
883
China is also decimating its own steel industry. They laid off 500,000 workers.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (UBBWX)
Yes, because they overbuilt capacity when they took over the global steel market. China produces almost half of the world's steel and they are reducing the workforce by 15% by 2020. They are not decimating it.
To do this gradually, they are buying their steelmakers steel and dumping it in foreign countries.
We are not the only country imposing tariffs on them.
Brief article from Forbes in April on the global steel glut and China's dumping.
http://tinyurl.com/gll6ls2
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:21 PM (UBBWX)
Yes, because they overbuilt capacity when they took over the global steel market. China produces almost half of the world's steel and they are reducing the workforce by 15% by 2020. They are not decimating it.
To do this gradually, they are buying their steelmakers steel and dumping it in foreign countries.
We are not the only country imposing tariffs on them.
Brief article from Forbes in April on the global steel glut and China's dumping.
http://tinyurl.com/gll6ls2
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:36 PM (PiuBB)
884
I've been the White Rose Tavern, the Pair 'o Dice Bar, and Duffy's Tavern but never the Dew Drop Inn.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 28, 2016 11:36 PM (X0SOM)
885
I don't understand this "Trumpism" term that some people use. I thought their complaint was that he had no coherent political philosophy at all.
Is Trumpism a philosophy or is it a term for someone who has none?
Is Trumpism a philosophy or is it a term for someone who has none?
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (sdi6R)
886
"If Constitutionalism is going to survive and rebuild during a Trump "reign," it will need some spokespeople who aren't tarnished by supporting Trumpism - guys like Cruz (who I hope does not endores)."
He's going to endorse, he's far too intelligent and ambitious not to. It will probably be perfunctory, and emphasize Hillary and the Supreme Court, but it will happen so long as Trump wins the nomination at the convention (99% chance).
He's going to endorse, he's far too intelligent and ambitious not to. It will probably be perfunctory, and emphasize Hillary and the Supreme Court, but it will happen so long as Trump wins the nomination at the convention (99% chance).
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (KF8B+)
887
"Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?"
He's already pre-stabbed in the back.
Amazing.
GOPe is not going to steal it from him, unless he shits the bed. Could he please either shit the bed NOW or hurry up and get to work.
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?"
He's already pre-stabbed in the back.
Amazing.
GOPe is not going to steal it from him, unless he shits the bed. Could he please either shit the bed NOW or hurry up and get to work.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (UBBWX)
888
872 Well, if I were Trump and the writing was on the
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
If the delegates revolt, it ain't gonna be for the GOPe.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (9dfKD)
An economist with a sense of humor. How delightful!
wall that the GOPe was going to pull out the stops to steal the
convention, why would I start spending more money than I need now?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)
If the delegates revolt, it ain't gonna be for the GOPe.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 28, 2016 11:30 PM (9dfKD)
An economist with a sense of humor. How delightful!
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:40 PM (MQEz6)
889
"He's going to endorse, he's far too intelligent and ambitious not to. It will probably be perfunctory, and emphasize Hillary and the Supreme Court, but it will happen so long as Trump wins the nomination at the convention (99% chance)."
I don't think he will endorse, but if he does it will be a backhanded one.
If he is smart he doesn't endorse. No one is demanding he do that.
the only reason to do it might be to attract Trump voters next time. but Trump might run again in 2020.
Especially he monetizes taxpayer funds for the general and pays his own companies. Which he will do.
I don't think he will endorse, but if he does it will be a backhanded one.
If he is smart he doesn't endorse. No one is demanding he do that.
the only reason to do it might be to attract Trump voters next time. but Trump might run again in 2020.
Especially he monetizes taxpayer funds for the general and pays his own companies. Which he will do.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:40 PM (UBBWX)
890
844If Scalia hadn't died, I probably wouldn't vote for Trump, either (under present circumstances, I'd even vote for McConnell unless he chose Surrender Haley as his running mate).
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (KF8B+)
I'm a bit confused by your post, since the first couple of sentences seem to disagree with my point about holding your nose, but then this comment about voting for Trump due the importance of Scalia seems to agree. I think we are in agreement, but I was probably unclear.
Your point about the hypothetical #NeverMcConnell is well taken. I hadn't thought about it that way, but I think you're right. A GOP revolt was in the works -- there was just the question of how it was to work itself out.
Still, I think there's a crucial difference, and that's that Trump seems to hold out hope for destabilizing the GOPe in a way that McConnell or any normal establishment candidate never would.
In other words, "hold your nose" is a bit incomplete, so it makes it seem like we're just doing the same thing again. But the formula for the past several elections has been "hold your nose and trust the establishment". We would love to not have to do either, but even if we have to hold our noses to vote for Trump, at least it's registering clear discontent with the GOPe.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:24 PM (KF8B+)
I'm a bit confused by your post, since the first couple of sentences seem to disagree with my point about holding your nose, but then this comment about voting for Trump due the importance of Scalia seems to agree. I think we are in agreement, but I was probably unclear.
Your point about the hypothetical #NeverMcConnell is well taken. I hadn't thought about it that way, but I think you're right. A GOP revolt was in the works -- there was just the question of how it was to work itself out.
Still, I think there's a crucial difference, and that's that Trump seems to hold out hope for destabilizing the GOPe in a way that McConnell or any normal establishment candidate never would.
In other words, "hold your nose" is a bit incomplete, so it makes it seem like we're just doing the same thing again. But the formula for the past several elections has been "hold your nose and trust the establishment". We would love to not have to do either, but even if we have to hold our noses to vote for Trump, at least it's registering clear discontent with the GOPe.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:40 PM (L54EB)
891
"Is Trumpism a philosophy or is it a term for someone who has none?"
Yeah, I agree. Unless maybe its the opposite of nihilism...holding all beliefs at one time.
Yeah, I agree. Unless maybe its the opposite of nihilism...holding all beliefs at one time.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:41 PM (UBBWX)
892
"Hah, the sign Plucky Duck gets splattered against is for the "Dewdrop Inn".
I don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the '60s or whenever."
I think there was a Dewdrop Inn mentioned in 'Uneasy Rider' by Charlie Daniels.
I don't know what other things it might refer to, but that's one of the clubs the "Three Little Bops" played in the Warner Bros cartoon from the '60s or whenever."
I think there was a Dewdrop Inn mentioned in 'Uneasy Rider' by Charlie Daniels.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:42 PM (KF8B+)
893
882 "The explanation is that you're better than Trump and his ridic voters."
I actually thought you guys would have an answer.
Like polls...skewed polls. I bought that too in 2012.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:36 PM (UBBWX)
You got several answers.
Bascally, Trump has no need to spend now and Hillary has no choice but to spend every day.
882 "The explanation is that you're better than Trump and his ridic voters."
I actually thought you guys would have an answer.
Like polls...skewed polls. I bought that too in 2012.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 28, 2016 11:36 PM (UBBWX)
You got several answers.
Bascally, Trump has no need to spend now and Hillary has no choice but to spend every day.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:43 PM (MQEz6)
894
Ace...tell Allahpundit (because I don't comment on facebook...ever) that if he, and the American people, cannot live without cheap crap from China during a trade war, then this country does not deserve to survive and is not worthy of freedom.
Why is it so dam hard for "Free Traders Forever" to realize that China is not our friend.
That trade deals with China only help the Chinese and hurt American national security. I mean how many times is a Republican going to thump their chest about invading Syria to remove Assad from power, while going all sissified when dealing with the undeclared war China is waging against us.
They are stealing intellectual property, bribing our "elites" thus corrupting our system of government, and using their businesses and banks that set up offices and branches in America to spy on this nation. That is not counting their growing naval control in Asia, etc.
China is not a capitalistic country, but a commercial oligarchy, whose business are all approved by Chinese elites (usually run by the children of those elites) in one form or another. That is not fair capitalistic competition.
Another question for the "Free Trade Forever" crew: Did we have lots of trade deals with the Soviet Union during the Cold War? Was that something Reagan was all hot for when he took office in 1980? Was his slogan: Free Trade with the Soviets Forever!
I am not depressed, but getting ticked off...really ticked off. It is the same stupid arguments they (GOPe and their lackeys) always use:
1. If you don't support them in crazy middle eastern nation building schemes you are a crazy isolationists like Ron Paul.
2. If you don't support their amnesty plans and crazy economic unions you must be a racist and small minded idiot.
3. If you don't support free trade deals that are with enemies, and that go well beyond free trade (see No. 2 above), then you are a Bernie Sanders supporter who loves Communism!
Yea...excuse me for not putting their needs in front of everything including national security! All that matters is free trade with these people...nothing will cause a typical standard issue republican to jump on grenade faster then saving something that has "Free Trade" written on it...who cares what is in it...it is "Free Trade! there for it is wonderful"
BTW - Obama is pushing trade deals, lots of them. Why do you think that is?
Why is it so dam hard for "Free Traders Forever" to realize that China is not our friend.
That trade deals with China only help the Chinese and hurt American national security. I mean how many times is a Republican going to thump their chest about invading Syria to remove Assad from power, while going all sissified when dealing with the undeclared war China is waging against us.
They are stealing intellectual property, bribing our "elites" thus corrupting our system of government, and using their businesses and banks that set up offices and branches in America to spy on this nation. That is not counting their growing naval control in Asia, etc.
China is not a capitalistic country, but a commercial oligarchy, whose business are all approved by Chinese elites (usually run by the children of those elites) in one form or another. That is not fair capitalistic competition.
Another question for the "Free Trade Forever" crew: Did we have lots of trade deals with the Soviet Union during the Cold War? Was that something Reagan was all hot for when he took office in 1980? Was his slogan: Free Trade with the Soviets Forever!
I am not depressed, but getting ticked off...really ticked off. It is the same stupid arguments they (GOPe and their lackeys) always use:
1. If you don't support them in crazy middle eastern nation building schemes you are a crazy isolationists like Ron Paul.
2. If you don't support their amnesty plans and crazy economic unions you must be a racist and small minded idiot.
3. If you don't support free trade deals that are with enemies, and that go well beyond free trade (see No. 2 above), then you are a Bernie Sanders supporter who loves Communism!
Yea...excuse me for not putting their needs in front of everything including national security! All that matters is free trade with these people...nothing will cause a typical standard issue republican to jump on grenade faster then saving something that has "Free Trade" written on it...who cares what is in it...it is "Free Trade! there for it is wonderful"
BTW - Obama is pushing trade deals, lots of them. Why do you think that is?
Posted by: William Eaton at June 28, 2016 11:46 PM (KhJh8)
895
885 I don't understand this "Trumpism" term that some people use. I thought their complaint was that he had no coherent political philosophy at all.
Is Trumpism a philosophy or is it a term for someone who has none?
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (sdi6R)
Trumpism is more a collection of inclinations then a coherent philosophy. They are not united by any thought-out ideological underpinnings. The most constant is a narcissistic fixation on Trump, which translates politically to authoritarianism. Most of his other views, shifting as they are, come back to this. Only Trump can make America Great. All power must be united in the hand of the executive - Trump - rather then diffused through government. etc.
Is Trumpism a philosophy or is it a term for someone who has none?
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (sdi6R)
Trumpism is more a collection of inclinations then a coherent philosophy. They are not united by any thought-out ideological underpinnings. The most constant is a narcissistic fixation on Trump, which translates politically to authoritarianism. Most of his other views, shifting as they are, come back to this. Only Trump can make America Great. All power must be united in the hand of the executive - Trump - rather then diffused through government. etc.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:46 PM (mFkVC)
896
866
Rodney Dangerfield blasted music on the golf course and farted at the table.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (L7t0A)
Whoa! Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that those behaviors are inappropriate?!? How about blasting music at the table and farting on the golf course?!? Are those behaviors inappropriate, too? I'm asking for a "friend."
Rodney Dangerfield blasted music on the golf course and farted at the table.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2016 11:29 PM (L7t0A)
Whoa! Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that those behaviors are inappropriate?!? How about blasting music at the table and farting on the golf course?!? Are those behaviors inappropriate, too? I'm asking for a "friend."
Posted by: Slappy at June 28, 2016 11:48 PM (rtfSu)
897
I have no idea how to bring this about, but excommunicating NeverTrumpers seems a bad idea.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (mFkVC)
Well, you're of course right that there are lots of Trump supporters who ARE reading people out of the GOP for not being sufficiently enthusiastic. I don't think that's wise at all.
But lots of the prominent NeverTrumpers seem to be doing a great job of excommunicating themselves.
I mean, for example, did George Will have to come out and make a big statement about it like he did? Couldn't he have said something like, "well, we have significant differences, but the GOP is a Big Tent and I'll have to think more about it if he wins the nomination"?
Of all people, I think Paul Ryan was the smartest about playing his cautious support for all it was worth.
Conservatives on the whole need to recognize that there's an enormous tactical benefit to not opening with a balls out definitive statement of Principle. It's a real shame that our political culture operates on such insincerity, but that's really how the game is played these days. What was it that Adams said: I must study war and politics so my son may study philosophy and literature. Maybe same here: We must study tactics and cagey negotiation so that our sons may live in a free society.
Ugh...I hate this political season.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (mFkVC)
Well, you're of course right that there are lots of Trump supporters who ARE reading people out of the GOP for not being sufficiently enthusiastic. I don't think that's wise at all.
But lots of the prominent NeverTrumpers seem to be doing a great job of excommunicating themselves.
I mean, for example, did George Will have to come out and make a big statement about it like he did? Couldn't he have said something like, "well, we have significant differences, but the GOP is a Big Tent and I'll have to think more about it if he wins the nomination"?
Of all people, I think Paul Ryan was the smartest about playing his cautious support for all it was worth.
Conservatives on the whole need to recognize that there's an enormous tactical benefit to not opening with a balls out definitive statement of Principle. It's a real shame that our political culture operates on such insincerity, but that's really how the game is played these days. What was it that Adams said: I must study war and politics so my son may study philosophy and literature. Maybe same here: We must study tactics and cagey negotiation so that our sons may live in a free society.
Ugh...I hate this political season.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:50 PM (L54EB)
898
Trump is going to lose. You can blame this on people who don't vote for him, for obvious reasons. You can also blame this on the fact that he apparently never put an actual campaign together over the past year. So maybe reserve the majority of your ire for the guy who ran for a job and took the spot without actually wanting it.
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (Um/n9)
Denial: pissy, mawkish Eeyoreism.
There's going to be an election in November. All you Puddleglums and Paranoid Androids should just toddle off until then.
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2016 08:04 PM (Um/n9)
Denial: pissy, mawkish Eeyoreism.
There's going to be an election in November. All you Puddleglums and Paranoid Androids should just toddle off until then.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at June 28, 2016 11:52 PM (wOKJp)
899
4&5) We probably are looking at a major party realignment. The fault lines are too deep. Its vital to keep Conservatism loud during that process. Beyond that, I don't have any idea how to bring about a desirable outcome.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (mFkVC)
I agree that Conservatism needs to have a voice. But I don't see how that will be any easier under a Hilary admin. For starters, Hillary will persecute conservatives and she'll have the aid of the MSM & the power of the bully pulpit to do so.
With a Trump presidency, conservatives may actually be able to get some benefit from the MSM if they are seen to be criticizing Trump. Plus, they may be able to shed the partisan label if they're seen attacking their own party.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:25 PM (mFkVC)
I agree that Conservatism needs to have a voice. But I don't see how that will be any easier under a Hilary admin. For starters, Hillary will persecute conservatives and she'll have the aid of the MSM & the power of the bully pulpit to do so.
With a Trump presidency, conservatives may actually be able to get some benefit from the MSM if they are seen to be criticizing Trump. Plus, they may be able to shed the partisan label if they're seen attacking their own party.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2016 11:54 PM (L54EB)
900
Denial: pissy, mawkish Eeyoreism.
There's going to be an election in November. All you Puddleglums and Paranoid Androids should just toddle off until then. Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at June 28, 2016 11:52 PM (wOKJp)-------------------------------------------------------------------------THIS
There's going to be an election in November. All you Puddleglums and Paranoid Androids should just toddle off until then. Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at June 28, 2016 11:52 PM (wOKJp)-------------------------------------------------------------------------THIS
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 28, 2016 11:54 PM (H6376)
901
Ace's hoisting the white flag every time Trump makes a country club faux pas sounds like something George Will would do. People get elected at this point in the nation's history by spouting bullshit that most voters respond to. How do you think we got eight years of Obama? All we can hope for is that Trump uses lube. Sack up.
Posted by: Mr. Mystery at June 28, 2016 11:59 PM (AVVYL)
902
"Bascally, Trump has no need to spend now and Hillary has no choice but to spend every day."
Romney mistake...done again. Good job!
Romney mistake...done again. Good job!
Posted by: Sexypig at June 29, 2016 12:00 AM (UBBWX)
903
HEre's the Trump "American Exceptionalism" video (at Mother Jones, btw): http://tinyurl.com/jm5lcb9
My reactions: It's not bad, and it's certainly not what Obama was saying. Obama did not cast his disagreement with "american exceptionalism" in terms of conversational persuasion. Also, Obama would NEVER have followed this up by saying that he wants to make America exceptional in the way that Trump did, b/c Obama wants America to be a weak, cowed cog in the machine of the great global planners.
My reactions: It's not bad, and it's certainly not what Obama was saying. Obama did not cast his disagreement with "american exceptionalism" in terms of conversational persuasion. Also, Obama would NEVER have followed this up by saying that he wants to make America exceptional in the way that Trump did, b/c Obama wants America to be a weak, cowed cog in the machine of the great global planners.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 29, 2016 12:01 AM (L54EB)
904
"I think we are in agreement, but I was probably unclear."
I think I was the one who was unclear; I'm voting for Trump unless there is no reasonable hope that he could win by election day, but I was trying to say that I can understand why #NeverTrumpers who are members of the Horde refuse to vote for him, and how they came to that conclusion. I disagree with them, but I can't really blame them, either.
I can also understand voting for Trump (now) as an expression of discontent with the GOPe, but in this case I disagree that doing so weakens the GOPe in favor of conservatism. The whole reason I became anti-GOPe was because they campaigned as conservatives and then stabbed us in the back, and Trump doesn't send that message. If anything, they will probably conclude that campaigning as conservatives is no longer neccessary (with the significant exception of illegal immigration). For me, voting Trump is a desperate, last-ditch effort to stop Hillary from stacking the Supreme Court.
I think I was the one who was unclear; I'm voting for Trump unless there is no reasonable hope that he could win by election day, but I was trying to say that I can understand why #NeverTrumpers who are members of the Horde refuse to vote for him, and how they came to that conclusion. I disagree with them, but I can't really blame them, either.
I can also understand voting for Trump (now) as an expression of discontent with the GOPe, but in this case I disagree that doing so weakens the GOPe in favor of conservatism. The whole reason I became anti-GOPe was because they campaigned as conservatives and then stabbed us in the back, and Trump doesn't send that message. If anything, they will probably conclude that campaigning as conservatives is no longer neccessary (with the significant exception of illegal immigration). For me, voting Trump is a desperate, last-ditch effort to stop Hillary from stacking the Supreme Court.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 29, 2016 12:02 AM (KF8B+)
905
One more thing...Democrats should wise up even more.
Just start using "Free Trade" as a way to ban guns, or allowing pedophilia and watch the GOP go Yes! Yes! Yes!
Anything for our trade with the mighty Han!
ANYTHING....
Just start using "Free Trade" as a way to ban guns, or allowing pedophilia and watch the GOP go Yes! Yes! Yes!
Anything for our trade with the mighty Han!
ANYTHING....
Posted by: William Eaton at June 29, 2016 12:03 AM (KhJh8)
906
904: Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 29, 2016 12:02 AM (KF8B+)
ok, yeah. I think we're pretty much on the same page then.
:-)
ok, yeah. I think we're pretty much on the same page then.
:-)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 29, 2016 12:04 AM (L54EB)
907
Can't really blame NeverTrumpers or vice-versa. We're bickering over tactics in a lost war. Maybe Trump will still somehow win, but if you're at a point where you're hanging by a thread on one election, the country's already gone.
While you were growing up thinking everything was great, angry socialists were methodically plotting their takeover. I'm not sure if cultural decay begat multiculturalism or vice-versa, but it doesn't really matter and our government is reflective of the country we've become.
In some respects, I wish the GOPe had gotten their man in this election. Perhaps he/she would have won, but I think it's still likely not. After all, the left is so confident in their consolidation of political power that they're running a candidate under active FBI investigation, among all her other criminality and misdeeds. Maybe if their best case scenario candidate ran against the left's worst candidate possible and still lost, reality might set in there is no future for conservatism in this country anymore. However, as dense as they are, they'd probably calculate that amnesty is their best way out.
With all of this Brexit talk, the only thing I hopefully look forward to in the case of a Trump loss is more people taking secession seriously. I don't care if it's illegal or not. If a departing state refuses to collect taxes for the US Treasury, they're going to have to either force an unpopular war without the moral mandate like abolition or facilitate your exit. We now have a living and breathing constitution evidently, so perhaps the legality of leaving the union has changed since the civil war.
While you were growing up thinking everything was great, angry socialists were methodically plotting their takeover. I'm not sure if cultural decay begat multiculturalism or vice-versa, but it doesn't really matter and our government is reflective of the country we've become.
In some respects, I wish the GOPe had gotten their man in this election. Perhaps he/she would have won, but I think it's still likely not. After all, the left is so confident in their consolidation of political power that they're running a candidate under active FBI investigation, among all her other criminality and misdeeds. Maybe if their best case scenario candidate ran against the left's worst candidate possible and still lost, reality might set in there is no future for conservatism in this country anymore. However, as dense as they are, they'd probably calculate that amnesty is their best way out.
With all of this Brexit talk, the only thing I hopefully look forward to in the case of a Trump loss is more people taking secession seriously. I don't care if it's illegal or not. If a departing state refuses to collect taxes for the US Treasury, they're going to have to either force an unpopular war without the moral mandate like abolition or facilitate your exit. We now have a living and breathing constitution evidently, so perhaps the legality of leaving the union has changed since the civil war.
Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at June 29, 2016 12:20 AM (MR1wI)
908
If Trump loses amnesty will pass so fast it will make your head spin. The US Chamber of Commerce really wants it and the GOPe will say the reason he lost was because he was mean to Latinos.
The permanent Progressive/Democratic federal government will then be established and the GOP won't have to worry about winning anything ever again.
The permanent Progressive/Democratic federal government will then be established and the GOP won't have to worry about winning anything ever again.
Posted by: TriggerWarning at June 29, 2016 12:32 AM (DncGp)
909
It doesn't matter what Trump does or doesn't say.
As long as Hillary promises more Welfare, Free Abortions, and Free Sex Change operations, she wins.
As long as Hillary promises more Welfare, Free Abortions, and Free Sex Change operations, she wins.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 29, 2016 12:35 AM (Vevy5)
910
895
Trumpism is more a collection of inclinations then a coherent philosophy. They are not united by any thought-out ideological underpinnings. The most constant is a narcissistic fixation on Trump, which translates politically to authoritarianism. Most of his other views, shifting as they are, come back to this. Only Trump can make America Great. All power must be united in the hand of the executive - Trump - rather then diffused through government. etc.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:46 PM (mFkVC)
I've more or less supported Trump from the beginning, mainly because I think he's the only Republican who can win.
That doesn't describe my views at all. I see him as more of a last-ditch Hail Mary pass.
All power resides in the Executive right now as it is. Congress has rendered itself completely impotent and irrelevant. They have voluntarily abdicated their power of the purse and they took impeachment off the table. Obama is a dictator right here and now and Congress won't lift a finger to stop him. And you're worried about what Trump might do?
No Enabling Act was necessary. They did it to themselves. That's the most frightening thing of all.
Trumpism is more a collection of inclinations then a coherent philosophy. They are not united by any thought-out ideological underpinnings. The most constant is a narcissistic fixation on Trump, which translates politically to authoritarianism. Most of his other views, shifting as they are, come back to this. Only Trump can make America Great. All power must be united in the hand of the executive - Trump - rather then diffused through government. etc.
Posted by: person at June 28, 2016 11:46 PM (mFkVC)
I've more or less supported Trump from the beginning, mainly because I think he's the only Republican who can win.
That doesn't describe my views at all. I see him as more of a last-ditch Hail Mary pass.
All power resides in the Executive right now as it is. Congress has rendered itself completely impotent and irrelevant. They have voluntarily abdicated their power of the purse and they took impeachment off the table. Obama is a dictator right here and now and Congress won't lift a finger to stop him. And you're worried about what Trump might do?
No Enabling Act was necessary. They did it to themselves. That's the most frightening thing of all.
Posted by: rickl at June 29, 2016 01:07 AM (sdi6R)
911
He's going to endorse, he's far too intelligent and
ambitious not to. It will probably be perfunctory, and emphasize
Hillary and the Supreme Court, but it will happen so long as Trump wins
the nomination at the convention (99% chance).
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (KF8B+)
Cruz is not going to endorse... Trump can't even stop him from giving a speech at the Convention because he doesn't endorse. That 8 state majority gets his name in nomination which gives him the right to give a speech.
Cruz is intelligent and ambitious... sucking up to Trump wouldn't be intelligent. After Trump's behavior, a Cruz endorsement would only be craven.
ambitious not to. It will probably be perfunctory, and emphasize
Hillary and the Supreme Court, but it will happen so long as Trump wins
the nomination at the convention (99% chance).
Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 28, 2016 11:38 PM (KF8B+)
Cruz is not going to endorse... Trump can't even stop him from giving a speech at the Convention because he doesn't endorse. That 8 state majority gets his name in nomination which gives him the right to give a speech.
Cruz is intelligent and ambitious... sucking up to Trump wouldn't be intelligent. After Trump's behavior, a Cruz endorsement would only be craven.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2016 01:11 AM (9dfKD)
912
"country club faux pas"
What does faux pas mean?
Like the paws of a fox?
I think your spelling sucks!
What does faux pas mean?
Like the paws of a fox?
I think your spelling sucks!
Posted by: Sexypig at June 29, 2016 01:14 AM (UBBWX)
913
"I see him as more of a last-ditch Hail Mary pass."
I can respect this position. I probably think we had time for a few more plays. Maybe take it to overtime.
But one thing this primary has taught me is that what I think doesn't really affect anything.
I'm trying to get more work done instead.
I can respect this position. I probably think we had time for a few more plays. Maybe take it to overtime.
But one thing this primary has taught me is that what I think doesn't really affect anything.
I'm trying to get more work done instead.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 29, 2016 01:17 AM (UBBWX)
914
What's depressing is that the GOPe is hell bent on making sure that Trump loses regardless of that meaning that Hillary is elected.
And the press is going full out and writhing in it's zealous twisting and distorting anything and everything it can say negative about Trump. That constant negative drumbeat is the killer.
Along with the smoothing and hiding anything and everything even so much as critical about Hillary to the extent they would do for anyone else constitutes a professional failure that far exceeds any that they they've done so far.
If we're doomed it's the fault of the press and the upper management of the party.
Not saying that Trump doesn't have faults nor that they should be ignored but the joining in on the various feeding frenzies have not helped one bit and that's by design.
The GOPe can go fcuk itself this year. They'll be lucky if I bother to vote for any of them and I think a large number of Trump voters will do the same. Local state pols are probably okay but anyone in DC? Fuggedaboutit.
And the press is going full out and writhing in it's zealous twisting and distorting anything and everything it can say negative about Trump. That constant negative drumbeat is the killer.
Along with the smoothing and hiding anything and everything even so much as critical about Hillary to the extent they would do for anyone else constitutes a professional failure that far exceeds any that they they've done so far.
If we're doomed it's the fault of the press and the upper management of the party.
Not saying that Trump doesn't have faults nor that they should be ignored but the joining in on the various feeding frenzies have not helped one bit and that's by design.
The GOPe can go fcuk itself this year. They'll be lucky if I bother to vote for any of them and I think a large number of Trump voters will do the same. Local state pols are probably okay but anyone in DC? Fuggedaboutit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 29, 2016 02:03 AM (ECJ+C)
915
"For me, voting Trump is a desperate, last-ditch effort to stop Hillary from stacking the Supreme Court."
This. How is this not stunningly obvious to everyone with at least a room temperature IQ?
This. How is this not stunningly obvious to everyone with at least a room temperature IQ?
Posted by: FOAF at June 29, 2016 03:43 AM (p0JMG)
916
Source: The Hill -6/28/16
"Polls show tight Clinton-Trump race in 2016 battlegrounds
President Obama coasted to reelection in 2012 by defeating GOP nominee Mitt Romney in nine out of 10 battleground states: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.
He lost North Carolina, which he had won four years earlier.
Heading into the 2016 conventions next month, polls in those 10 states show close races across the board.
The polling suggests Clinton has an edge because she has leads in six of the 10 states, while Trump is only consistently leading in North Carolina.
Clinton's lead, however, is just a percentage point or two in most of the states."
"Polls show tight Clinton-Trump race in 2016 battlegrounds
President Obama coasted to reelection in 2012 by defeating GOP nominee Mitt Romney in nine out of 10 battleground states: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.
He lost North Carolina, which he had won four years earlier.
Heading into the 2016 conventions next month, polls in those 10 states show close races across the board.
The polling suggests Clinton has an edge because she has leads in six of the 10 states, while Trump is only consistently leading in North Carolina.
Clinton's lead, however, is just a percentage point or two in most of the states."
Posted by: hi there at June 29, 2016 04:00 AM (Omz6S)
917
Its not competition when one side is able to use slave labor. The politicians and bankers are enriched while US workers lose jobs. Tariff to put wages at a true "market rate". Easy to calc.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (Omz6S)
When we get to the point that even "conservatives" think government intervention creates a "true market rate," we are well and truly screwed.
Posted by: Terico at June 28, 2016 08:49 PM (Omz6S)
When we get to the point that even "conservatives" think government intervention creates a "true market rate," we are well and truly screwed.
Posted by: rfichoke at June 29, 2016 05:55 AM (QVnYo)
918
917 The reason some of us gave up on the GOP and so-called conservatives is they became like libertarians: They lost touch with reality and human nature. The idea that one can build nations with the absurd borders in the Middle East is an example. The other is the idea that the globalist-corporatist crap passed off as free trade is better than the type of protectionism that was traditional in America in the past is another. Finally, wimps like Romney don't even seem to want to win. At least the Left is trying to win. All the establishment Right wants is to enjoy their privileges as long as possible, with the hope that the Jacobin takeover will be after they are dead.
Besides, taxes are government intervention. It can be done on imports or on income or assets or consumption. Why is taxing Chinese imports so bad? They are also likely to be a serious challenge in the future.
Besides, taxes are government intervention. It can be done on imports or on income or assets or consumption. Why is taxing Chinese imports so bad? They are also likely to be a serious challenge in the future.
Posted by: Lance at June 29, 2016 06:17 AM (EJKgG)
919
Scott Adams (Dilbert) says Hillary is winning right now because her surrogates have successfully branded Trump a crazy racist.
Adams thinks Trump is waiting till Hillary is the official nominee before taking action because Trump doesn't want Hillary replaced with a stronger candidate.
Me. I'm praying to God to protect me from them. And from muslims. And from SJW. And from big Government.
I heard a female say the other day it was ok that a FUP be demoted even though she would lose her health insurance because that was what Obamacare was for. I kept quiet. Why isn't it ok that a FUP be demoted or fired because they are a FUP.
Obamacare, Medicare part D ... endless socialism really is required to get elected in the US. Women and feminized men? FUPs and deadbeats? Our future is more Ryans and McConnells?
Adams thinks Trump is waiting till Hillary is the official nominee before taking action because Trump doesn't want Hillary replaced with a stronger candidate.
Me. I'm praying to God to protect me from them. And from muslims. And from SJW. And from big Government.
I heard a female say the other day it was ok that a FUP be demoted even though she would lose her health insurance because that was what Obamacare was for. I kept quiet. Why isn't it ok that a FUP be demoted or fired because they are a FUP.
Obamacare, Medicare part D ... endless socialism really is required to get elected in the US. Women and feminized men? FUPs and deadbeats? Our future is more Ryans and McConnells?
Posted by: Ok at June 29, 2016 07:30 AM (rnH8X)
920
So tell me how the elites have gotten the GOP to fall for Free Trade.
I can't figure out how people think that something Karl Marx supported is good for freedom:
"But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days
is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively.
It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat
and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system
hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen,
I am in favor of Free Trade"........Karl Marx
Free Trade is a bill of goods the elite has been sold to us over the last 30 years. It destroys nations, wipes out borders and fatally wounds the middle class. It other words like Marx understood it hastens the Social Revolution. It allows the elites to cement their power and riches at the expense of the middle class as the cost of labor is reduced and profits are increased. It does not allow the sell of cheap goods in and of itself. It allows the production of cheap goods. It is market competition that allows the sell of cheap goods not free trade. If a car for instance made in the USA can not be made cheaper than $20,000 and that same car can be made for $5,000 in China. The Car company is not going to sell the car for $5,500 in the USA it is going to sell the car for $19,900 in the USA. The consumer saves $100 bucks. The shareholders and company saves $14,900. Which side does Free Trade help out more? At the same time that $14,900 profit will not be invested back into the USA economy. It will go to the shareholders in the form of dividends, to bonuses for the CEO and other execs and to China in the form of capital investment and wages to its workers. Those workers will spend their wages in their country on the cheaper goods produced there and employ service industries to support the manufacturing class. increasing the wealth of the nation. Free Trade will in the end make the poor country richer and the rich country poorer until both countries become the same. Or in other words Free trade produces equal outcomes. The dream of socialists the world over. The only way free trade works between two countries is if each country has the same basic standard of living, taxes and social costs. Again what the socialists have pushed for since Karl Marx. Free Trade does not produce exceptionalism. It does not create long term winners and losers at the country level. It equalizes the working class in all countries. It destroys 1st world countries and raises 3rd world countries until both are at same level in world status will enriching the elite class with massive wealth. Again what Karl Marx wanted. . In other words if all your goods are produced in China and shipped to the USA you no longer have competition you have a monopoly and the owners of that monopoly can charge whatever they want for those goods into your market with the limited factor being the cost to produce those same goods in this country. The same goes for labor with open borders. Both bring in the socialist revolution as the masses are made poor. A strong middle class has always been the shield that stops socialism/communism. Free trade and open borders are some of primary weapons socialists and communists use to destroy that middle class shield. Class grievances, destruction of the family unit, progressive taxation, banning GOD/belief in a higher power, destroying a nation's culture and replacing it with multiculturalism are other arrows in the socialist quiver. Most conservatives see those other weapons but for whatever reason they have this massive blind spot when it comes to how free trade/open borders furthers the socialists' dreams.
I can't figure out how people think that something Karl Marx supported is good for freedom:
"But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days
is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively.
It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat
and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system
hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen,
I am in favor of Free Trade"........Karl Marx
Free Trade is a bill of goods the elite has been sold to us over the last 30 years. It destroys nations, wipes out borders and fatally wounds the middle class. It other words like Marx understood it hastens the Social Revolution. It allows the elites to cement their power and riches at the expense of the middle class as the cost of labor is reduced and profits are increased. It does not allow the sell of cheap goods in and of itself. It allows the production of cheap goods. It is market competition that allows the sell of cheap goods not free trade. If a car for instance made in the USA can not be made cheaper than $20,000 and that same car can be made for $5,000 in China. The Car company is not going to sell the car for $5,500 in the USA it is going to sell the car for $19,900 in the USA. The consumer saves $100 bucks. The shareholders and company saves $14,900. Which side does Free Trade help out more? At the same time that $14,900 profit will not be invested back into the USA economy. It will go to the shareholders in the form of dividends, to bonuses for the CEO and other execs and to China in the form of capital investment and wages to its workers. Those workers will spend their wages in their country on the cheaper goods produced there and employ service industries to support the manufacturing class. increasing the wealth of the nation. Free Trade will in the end make the poor country richer and the rich country poorer until both countries become the same. Or in other words Free trade produces equal outcomes. The dream of socialists the world over. The only way free trade works between two countries is if each country has the same basic standard of living, taxes and social costs. Again what the socialists have pushed for since Karl Marx. Free Trade does not produce exceptionalism. It does not create long term winners and losers at the country level. It equalizes the working class in all countries. It destroys 1st world countries and raises 3rd world countries until both are at same level in world status will enriching the elite class with massive wealth. Again what Karl Marx wanted. . In other words if all your goods are produced in China and shipped to the USA you no longer have competition you have a monopoly and the owners of that monopoly can charge whatever they want for those goods into your market with the limited factor being the cost to produce those same goods in this country. The same goes for labor with open borders. Both bring in the socialist revolution as the masses are made poor. A strong middle class has always been the shield that stops socialism/communism. Free trade and open borders are some of primary weapons socialists and communists use to destroy that middle class shield. Class grievances, destruction of the family unit, progressive taxation, banning GOD/belief in a higher power, destroying a nation's culture and replacing it with multiculturalism are other arrows in the socialist quiver. Most conservatives see those other weapons but for whatever reason they have this massive blind spot when it comes to how free trade/open borders furthers the socialists' dreams.
Posted by: unseen at June 29, 2016 07:31 AM (KpuTG)
921
"Why is taxing Chinese imports so bad?"
From the Chinese point of view they have spent a lot of wealth buying US politicians and they don't want to take a loss on their investment. :-)
Turn off EBT cards and quit increasing dollar values in a Federal Reserve Data Base would stop China imports also. Think China wouldn't claim currency manipulation? :-)
We will see elephants flying before EBT cards or a surplus Federal budget is produced.
Current system would fall apart if the US Federal Debt ever quit rising or even stayed the same for more than a week.
The above about the system falling apart is a conclusion I came to after reading a book by Michael Pettis. If you really want to see the big picture read his writings. Equivalent of Ohms law but for international finance instead. eg Savings rate doesn't mean what most commentators claim savings rate means.
From the Chinese point of view they have spent a lot of wealth buying US politicians and they don't want to take a loss on their investment. :-)
Turn off EBT cards and quit increasing dollar values in a Federal Reserve Data Base would stop China imports also. Think China wouldn't claim currency manipulation? :-)
We will see elephants flying before EBT cards or a surplus Federal budget is produced.
Current system would fall apart if the US Federal Debt ever quit rising or even stayed the same for more than a week.
The above about the system falling apart is a conclusion I came to after reading a book by Michael Pettis. If you really want to see the big picture read his writings. Equivalent of Ohms law but for international finance instead. eg Savings rate doesn't mean what most commentators claim savings rate means.
Posted by: Ok at June 29, 2016 07:45 AM (rnH8X)
922
"how free trade/open borders furthers the socialists' dreams."
Free trade in this context is Orwellian NewSpeak. The opposite of massive treaties is a requirement for natural free trade.
If the socialists' dreams are poverty, starvation and chaos then open borders are required.
Free trade in this context is Orwellian NewSpeak. The opposite of massive treaties is a requirement for natural free trade.
If the socialists' dreams are poverty, starvation and chaos then open borders are required.
Posted by: Ok at June 29, 2016 07:49 AM (jN+3o)
923
917. OUR Government's function is not to set a true market rate. It's function is detailed in the 1st paragraph of the constitution:
"We the People of
the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America. "
Open borders is the inverse of providing for the common defense of its citizens. Free trade with nations that use slave/cheap labor/ currency manipulation and who do not respect our IP laws does not promote the general welfare nor does it secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves It destroys our posterity instead of secures it. a free nation wants a strong middle class not a large poor class and a small rich class.
Throughout history whenever a countries population becomes a few rich leading masses of poor that country falls to revolts, riots and revolutions and social unrest with increasing police states as the few rich try to control the masses. It is no great leap to see that as the concepts of free trade/open borders has grown our individual rights and liberties have shrunk.
"We the People of
the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America. "
Open borders is the inverse of providing for the common defense of its citizens. Free trade with nations that use slave/cheap labor/ currency manipulation and who do not respect our IP laws does not promote the general welfare nor does it secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves It destroys our posterity instead of secures it. a free nation wants a strong middle class not a large poor class and a small rich class.
Throughout history whenever a countries population becomes a few rich leading masses of poor that country falls to revolts, riots and revolutions and social unrest with increasing police states as the few rich try to control the masses. It is no great leap to see that as the concepts of free trade/open borders has grown our individual rights and liberties have shrunk.
Posted by: unseen at June 29, 2016 07:57 AM (KpuTG)
924
To add to the depression, Scott Adams is worried.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump
Posted by: Emily at June 29, 2016 08:05 AM (QtkD6)
925
922. Madison's quote can be applied to trade as well as government and to nations as well as individuals.
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to
govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would
be necessary."
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to
govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would
be necessary."
Posted by: unseen at June 29, 2016 08:06 AM (KpuTG)
926
It's way too soon and too volatile to be depressed or happy. The Q-poll released this morning shows Trump has gained and it is now tied within the margin of error.
We likely won't even have a good handle on the state of the race until well into October. Events are working to Trump's favor, though.
We likely won't even have a good handle on the state of the race until well into October. Events are working to Trump's favor, though.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 29, 2016 08:17 AM (l4wkU)
927
many in the GOP say how great the economy was during Reagan. I tend to agree with that what most of those GOPe won't tell you is one of the reasons the economy was so great is that Reagan while he might have mouthed free trade did not practiced it when that free trade hurt America. Here is a list of some of Reagan's protections on trade. Not much different than what Trump says he will do.
Forced Japan to accept restraints on auto exports.
The agreement set total Japanese auto exports at 1.68 million
vehicles in 1981-82, 8 percent below 1980 exports. Two years
later the level was permitted to rise to 1.85 million.(33)
Clifford Winston of the Brookings Institution found that the
import limits have actually cost jobs in the U.S. auto industry
by making it possible for the sheltered American automakers
to raise prices and limit production. In 1984, Winston writes
in Blind Intersection? Policy and the Automobile Industry,
32,000 jobs were lost, U.S. production fell by 300,000 units,
and profits for U.S. firms increased $8.9 billion. The quotas
have also made the Japanese firms potentially more formidable
rivals because they have begun building assembly plants in
the United States.(34) They also shifted production to larger
cars, introducing to American firms competition they did not
have before the quotas were created. In 1984, it was estimated
that higher prices for domestic and imported cars cost
consumers $2.2 billion a year.(35) At the height of the dollar's
exchange rate with the yen in 1984-85, the quotas were costing
American consumers the equivalent of $11 billion a year.(36)
-- Tightened up considerably the quotas on imported
sugar. Imports fell from an annual average of 4.85 million
tons in 1979-81 to an annual average of 2.86 million tons
in 1982-86. Not only did this continued practice force
Americans to spend more than other consumers for sugar, but it
created hardships for Latin American countries and the
Philippines, which depend on sugar exports for economic development.
The quota program undermined President Reagan's Caribbean
Basin Initiative and intensified the international debt
crisis.(37)
-- Negotiated to increase restrictiveness of the Multifiber Arrangement and extended restrictions to previously
unrestricted textiles. The administration unilaterally changed
the rule of origin in order to restrict textile and apparel
imports further and imposed a special ceiling on textiles
from the People's Republic of China.(3 Finally, it pressured
Hong Kong, Taiwan, and South Korea, the largest exporters of
textiles and apparel to the United States, into highly restrictive bilateral agreements. All told, textile and apparel
restrictions cost Americans more than $20 billion a year.(39)
The Reagan administration has stated several times that textile
and apparel imports should grow no faster than the domestic
market.(40)
-- Required 18 countries--including Brazil, Spain,
South
Korea, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, Finland, and Australia,
as well as the European Community--to accept "voluntary
restraint agreements" to reduce steel imports, guaranteeing
domestic producers a share of the American market. When 3
countries not included in the 18--Canada, Sweden, and Taiwan--
increased steel exports to the United States, the
administration demanded talks to check the increase. The administration
also imposed tariffs and quotas on specialty steel. These
policies, with their resulting shortages, have severely squeezed
American steel-using firms, making them less competitive in
world markets and eliminating more than 52,000 jobs.(41)
-- Imposed a five-year duty, beginning at 45 percent,
on Japanese motorcycles for the benefit of Harley Davidson,
which admitted that superior Japanese management was the
cause of its problems.(42)
-- Raised tariffs on Canadian lumber and cedar shingles.
-- Forced the Japanese into an agreement to control the
price of computer memory-chip exports and increase Japanese
purchases of American-made chips. When the agreement was
allegedly broken, the administration imposed a 100 percent
tariff on $300 million worth of electronics goods. This
episode teaches a classic lesson in how protectionism comes
back to haunt a country's producers. The quotas established
as a result of the agreement have created a severe shortage
of memory chips and higher prices for American computer makers,
putting them at a disadvantage with foreign competitors.
Only two American firms are still making these chips, accounting for a small percentage of the world market.(43)
-- Removed Third World countries from the duty-free
import program for developing nations on several occasions.
-- Pressed Japan to force its automakers to buy more
American-made parts.(44)
-- Demanded that Taiwan, West Germany, Japan, and
Switzerland restrain their exports of machine tools, with
some market shares rolled back to 1981 levels. Other countries
were warned not to increase their shares of the U.S. market.
-- Accused the Japanese of dumping roller bearings,
because the price did not rise to cover a fall in the value
of the yen. The U.S. Customs Service was ordered to collect
duties equal to the so-called dumping margins.(45)
-- Accused the Japanese of dumping forklift trucks and
color picture tubes.(46)
-- Failed to ask Congress to end the ban on the export
of Alaskan oil and of timber cut from federal lands, a measure
that could substantially increase U.S. exports to Japan.
-- Redefined "dumping" in order "to make it easier to
bring charges of unfair trade practices against certain competitors."(47)
-- Beefed up the Export-Import Bank, an institution
dedicated to promoting the exports of a handful of large
companies at the expense of everyone else.(4
-- Extended quotas on imported clothespins.
So let's sum it up. Under Reagan had a great economy but he practiced america first trade polices. Under Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Economy sucks but they practice free trade.....hmmmm.
Forced Japan to accept restraints on auto exports.
The agreement set total Japanese auto exports at 1.68 million
vehicles in 1981-82, 8 percent below 1980 exports. Two years
later the level was permitted to rise to 1.85 million.(33)
Clifford Winston of the Brookings Institution found that the
import limits have actually cost jobs in the U.S. auto industry
by making it possible for the sheltered American automakers
to raise prices and limit production. In 1984, Winston writes
in Blind Intersection? Policy and the Automobile Industry,
32,000 jobs were lost, U.S. production fell by 300,000 units,
and profits for U.S. firms increased $8.9 billion. The quotas
have also made the Japanese firms potentially more formidable
rivals because they have begun building assembly plants in
the United States.(34) They also shifted production to larger
cars, introducing to American firms competition they did not
have before the quotas were created. In 1984, it was estimated
that higher prices for domestic and imported cars cost
consumers $2.2 billion a year.(35) At the height of the dollar's
exchange rate with the yen in 1984-85, the quotas were costing
American consumers the equivalent of $11 billion a year.(36)
-- Tightened up considerably the quotas on imported
sugar. Imports fell from an annual average of 4.85 million
tons in 1979-81 to an annual average of 2.86 million tons
in 1982-86. Not only did this continued practice force
Americans to spend more than other consumers for sugar, but it
created hardships for Latin American countries and the
Philippines, which depend on sugar exports for economic development.
The quota program undermined President Reagan's Caribbean
Basin Initiative and intensified the international debt
crisis.(37)
-- Negotiated to increase restrictiveness of the Multifiber Arrangement and extended restrictions to previously
unrestricted textiles. The administration unilaterally changed
the rule of origin in order to restrict textile and apparel
imports further and imposed a special ceiling on textiles
from the People's Republic of China.(3
Finally, it pressured
Hong Kong, Taiwan, and South Korea, the largest exporters of
textiles and apparel to the United States, into highly restrictive bilateral agreements. All told, textile and apparel
restrictions cost Americans more than $20 billion a year.(39)
The Reagan administration has stated several times that textile
and apparel imports should grow no faster than the domestic
market.(40)
-- Required 18 countries--including Brazil, Spain,
South
Korea, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, Finland, and Australia,
as well as the European Community--to accept "voluntary
restraint agreements" to reduce steel imports, guaranteeing
domestic producers a share of the American market. When 3
countries not included in the 18--Canada, Sweden, and Taiwan--
increased steel exports to the United States, the
administration demanded talks to check the increase. The administration
also imposed tariffs and quotas on specialty steel. These
policies, with their resulting shortages, have severely squeezed
American steel-using firms, making them less competitive in
world markets and eliminating more than 52,000 jobs.(41)
-- Imposed a five-year duty, beginning at 45 percent,
on Japanese motorcycles for the benefit of Harley Davidson,
which admitted that superior Japanese management was the
cause of its problems.(42)
-- Raised tariffs on Canadian lumber and cedar shingles.
-- Forced the Japanese into an agreement to control the
price of computer memory-chip exports and increase Japanese
purchases of American-made chips. When the agreement was
allegedly broken, the administration imposed a 100 percent
tariff on $300 million worth of electronics goods. This
episode teaches a classic lesson in how protectionism comes
back to haunt a country's producers. The quotas established
as a result of the agreement have created a severe shortage
of memory chips and higher prices for American computer makers,
putting them at a disadvantage with foreign competitors.
Only two American firms are still making these chips, accounting for a small percentage of the world market.(43)
-- Removed Third World countries from the duty-free
import program for developing nations on several occasions.
-- Pressed Japan to force its automakers to buy more
American-made parts.(44)
-- Demanded that Taiwan, West Germany, Japan, and
Switzerland restrain their exports of machine tools, with
some market shares rolled back to 1981 levels. Other countries
were warned not to increase their shares of the U.S. market.
-- Accused the Japanese of dumping roller bearings,
because the price did not rise to cover a fall in the value
of the yen. The U.S. Customs Service was ordered to collect
duties equal to the so-called dumping margins.(45)
-- Accused the Japanese of dumping forklift trucks and
color picture tubes.(46)
-- Failed to ask Congress to end the ban on the export
of Alaskan oil and of timber cut from federal lands, a measure
that could substantially increase U.S. exports to Japan.
-- Redefined "dumping" in order "to make it easier to
bring charges of unfair trade practices against certain competitors."(47)
-- Beefed up the Export-Import Bank, an institution
dedicated to promoting the exports of a handful of large
companies at the expense of everyone else.(4
-- Extended quotas on imported clothespins.
So let's sum it up. Under Reagan had a great economy but he practiced america first trade polices. Under Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Economy sucks but they practice free trade.....hmmmm.
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