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Chihuly Chandelier.jpg

Chandelier
Dale Chihuly

[Hat tip: AtC]

And something a bit more traditional below the fold....

David.jpg

David
Lorenzo Monaco

One of the simple pleasures of religious art is the symbolism that identifies the subjects. For instance, here the zither signals that it is King David.

Keys?
Lilies?
Axes?
Lances?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:45 AM




Comments

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1 Time to make the donuts.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2016 09:40 AM (SEFXb)

2 Cthulhu is blue! Must have been cold in R'lyeh.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 28, 2016 09:41 AM (iLoHX)

3 wot

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:41 AM (pC96u)

4 Keys for the pope, lilies for France (or maybe St. Louis?), lance for...St. George? Don't know about an axe.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (iLoHX)

5

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (HSmrB)

6
Chandelier is kind of scary looking. I'm not sure I would want it in my room.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (pC96u)

7 Wow, the Daily Sideboob US homepage this AM is full of really fun stories.

Posted by: JEM at June 28, 2016 09:43 AM (o+SC1)

8 Kirsten Powers avoiding tears trying to defend the Clinton's.

What a heroine.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 09:43 AM (4ng05)

9 Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (iLoHX)

Keys always signaled St. Peter in my book.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)

10 1 Time to make the donuts.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2016 09:40 AM (SEFXb)

BMACB

Bake Me A Cake Bigot

Posted by: 0302 at June 28, 2016 09:45 AM (wx6iv)

11 Be careful, you could put your eye out on the chandelier.

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 09:45 AM (Fol9S)

12 9 Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (iLoHX)

Keys always signaled St. Peter in my book.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)

Yes, that's probably more appropriate in context.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 28, 2016 09:45 AM (iLoHX)

13 That top one - that's that blue Hindu goddess with all the arms, right? Kali Mari or something? (Never been too good at interpreting impressionists.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - myth ologi cally at June 28, 2016 09:46 AM (rCGpC)

14 AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

/run away in horror

Posted by: anime schoolgirls at June 28, 2016 09:48 AM (jV8Mq)

15 >>> Kali Mari or something?


Well done. That kinda snuck up on me..

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 09:48 AM (Fol9S)

16 BMACB

Bake Me A Cake Bigot
Posted by: 0302 at June 28, 2016 09:45 AM (wx6iv)


Here's some icing so you can write FAG on it later.

Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2016 09:49 AM (0+824)

17 The chandelier looks like something that you'd find hanging in a crashed alien spaceship.

Something that you'd want to stay away from.

Posted by: Bayou City at June 28, 2016 09:49 AM (0QLpr)

18 Yea! We're saved! Obama saved the economy!

https://tinyurl.com/z926763

Consumer spending on Obamacare accounted for 58% of growth in the first quarter.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 09:49 AM (4ng05)

19 What odd geometries.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:50 AM (ry34m)

20 Hey, where can I buy one of those chandeliers?

Posted by: H P Lovecraft at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (TOssO)

21 Kirsten Powers sez it's sexist to criticize angry, vase-throwing Hillary.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (1ZOkK)

22 So, alexthechick recommended a hentai chandelier?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (1xUj/)

23 Chandelier is kind of scary looking. I'm not sure I would want it in my room.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (pC96u)


Once it drains your life-force it will leave, no worries. Just a little sting and then you see it passing through the wall.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (ry34m)

24 Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:50 AM (ry34m)

That Spencer looks like fun....

I have an original! My dad bought it when he was a kid. Went to Bannerman's in NYC and paid $5 for it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)

25
I see they've revised 1Q GDP up to 1.1%. Of course it was. Couldn't have 0.5% for Barry's economic golden age. Why not just say it was 200%? There's enough LIVs who would believe it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 09:53 AM (493sH)

26 That chandelier is much like what I suspect is really hiding under Hillary's puptent pantsuit.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 09:53 AM (9krrF)

27
In art, Popular Mechanics has a cutaway drawing of the ships from the new movie Star Trek Beyond. In addition to the Enterprise, Beyond will feature two other vessels: tiny swarm ships flown by the enemy Krall and the USS Franklin, an early prototype ship that was the first to reach Warp 4.

https://tinyurl.com/hf2kso9

Note the tanks from the Van Nuys Anheuser-Busch plant, which always used to smell like green beans when you drove past it on the freeway, in the "Engineering Area".

https://tinyurl.com/jb8sakj

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 09:54 AM (kdS6q)

28 I love both of those.

Religious art always makes me feel dim because I know there are layers and layers of fact checkers symbolism that I don't see because I've either forgotten it or never studied it to begin with.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:54 AM (mf5HN)

29 I don't think the thread below knows about this one.

Just as well....

Posted by: mindful webworker - keep corgis corralled at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (rCGpC)

30 Mooch and the Moochettes are in Africa to promote grrrrlll power, and later will have a side trip to Spain.

This, before their vacay on Martha's Vineyard.

It's good to be queen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (1ZOkK)

31 If you like those chandeliers, look up a local artist here in Philly named Adam Wallacavage.

I have one of his smaller art pieces, and one of these days we may get one of the chandeliers.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (F26eZ)

32 OK, who requested the tentacle pron sans pron...?

Posted by: Jenk at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (OtryE)

33 "Bring me a small lyre!"

Posted by: Ceasar at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (bzd8I)

34 "I don't know, officer, my chandelier looked normal until that meteor crashed into the field out back and started giving off that weird, unhealthy glow."

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (TOssO)

35 Build the dang wall!

Posted by: John, my maverick is showing, McCain at June 28, 2016 09:56 AM (86StK)

36 So, alexthechick recommended a hentai chandelier?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (1xUj/)



*shifty eyes*

Would I do such a thing?

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:56 AM (mf5HN)

37 "Bring me a small lyre!"
Posted by: Ceasar at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (bzd8I)
________________________________


Yes? Can I help you?

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 28, 2016 09:57 AM (Fol9S)

38 That Spencer looks like fun....

I have an original! My dad bought it when he was a kid. Went to Bannerman's in NYC and paid $5 for it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)


Have you considered converting it to centerfire? There are sources for the ammo but only centerfire.

What is holding me back from buying one is that it costs more than my current car

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:57 AM (ry34m)

39 Londo Molari overdosed on a Viagra/Cealis/Red Bull cocktail...?

Posted by: Jenk at June 28, 2016 09:59 AM (OtryE)

40 Huh. Agents on the ground in Benghazi repeatedly asked for more weapons and sandbags, and were denied because they were not "esthetically pleasing."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 09:59 AM (1ZOkK)

41 "Keys?

Lilies?

Axes?

Lances?"

Derringers.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (noWW6)

42 Ok...just a wild guess but could we assume that the blue thingy is a depiction of God as represented by a peyote- addled truth seeker ....and the bottom picture is something outlawed by Brussels bureaucrats?

Peyote for the win?

Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (ejg+y)

43 PRESSER UP.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (1ZOkK)

44 Yes, but is it flying?

Posted by: an atheist at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (TOssO)

45 Yeah, keys are pretty much always St Peter. Usually if there is a weapon, it is the method of their martyrdom.

Lilies usually would mean a female, but not always. And I cannot for the life of me place axes and lances. Now I am going to have to look em up. My brain is not working well yet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (3ZoRf)

46 "Bring me a small lyre!"
Posted by: Ceasar at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (bzd8I)
________________________________


Yes? Can I help you?


Posted by: Eric Holder at June 28, 2016 09:57 AM


I was hoping for a Deval Patrick reference, but this works.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (bzd8I)

47 Top one needs anime sound effects.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (MQEz6)

48 Empress wasn't that chandelier used as a prop in Beetlejuice, you know the seance scene...

Lilies represent Easter of course.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (C6duO)

49 Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:54 AM (mf5HN)

That is in part because of our woefully inadequate religious education.

As an example, my mom is Israeli, and she studied the Old Testament in school, mostly as literature and history.

It was really embarrassing as a kid when she could identify the Old Testament people without even a second glance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (Zu3d9)

50 Gowdy can make even simple slicked back hair look freaky. That's impressive.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (1xUj/)

51 In the bottom one the dude looks a little pissed.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (MQEz6)

52 I see Gwyneth's head in a box.

Posted by: David Fincher at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (hNICT)

53 is there a link to the presser?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (TOssO)

54 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (C6duO)

Or Mary....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (Zu3d9)

55 Wow, lilies cover a lot of saints, only a little more than half are female.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (3ZoRf)

56 "Mooch and the Moochettes are in Africa to promote grrrrlll power"

Where Boko Haram have still not responded to Mooch's ridiculous Twitter hashtag campaign to #BringBackOurGirls.

Alex, I'll take "Subjects Which The News Media Will Never Bring Up With The Obamas" for a thousand, please.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (noWW6)

57 I think that guy did the chandeliers & such for the Borgata Casino in Atlantic City. Pretty cool looking.

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (7HtZB)

58
Kirsten Powers avoiding tears trying to defend the Clinton's.

What a heroine.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 09:43 AM (4ng05)
-------------------------

Yesterday? Today? I detest Kirsten Powers, lord forgive me.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (pC96u)

59 51 In the bottom one the dude looks a little pissed.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (MQEz6

He knows Goliath took a dive.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:03 AM (hNICT)

60 Oh my! That chandelier is something out of Lovecraft or, maybe, Clark Ashton Smith. Why do I have the feeling that its color will intensify as it consumes the owner?

Actually, it looks interesting even if I wouldn't have it in my house. There is something both compelling and disturbing about it.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2016 10:04 AM (V+03K)

61
Keys?
Lilies?
Axes?
Lances?



Saint Peter the Martyr is occasionally depicted with an axe, as Cathars killed him with one in 1252.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2016 10:04 AM (X6fMO)

62 you can find Chihuly in Vegas too, Bellagio

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (c6/9Q)

63 AKIIIIIIIRA!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (0mRoj)

64 What's up with the dude's right foot?

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (MQEz6)

65 That is in part because of our woefully inadequate religious education.

As an example, my mom is Israeli, and she studied the Old Testament in school, mostly as literature and history.

It was really embarrassing as a kid when she could identify the Old Testament people without even a second glance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (Zu3d9)

My mom is the same way. But she also taught me to, when in doubt, look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (3ZoRf)

66 "I see they've revised 1Q GDP up to 1.1%. Of course it was. Couldn't have 0.5% for Barry's economic golden age. Why not just say it was 200%? There's enough LIVs who would believe it"

It's being reported that more than half the 1.1% is Obamacare spending. Nirvana for a bureaucrat is reporting a tax as an increase in GDP.

Posted by: Ok at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (rnH8X)

67 51 In the bottom one the dude looks a little pissed.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (MQEz6


You'd be pissed too if you had to wear those poufy silk pajamas all day.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (TOssO)

68 Speaking of Art, my wife has been collaborating on an Encyclopedia of the Jesuits for more than a decade, and has travelled extensively to document art and architecture significant to the subject. Her most recent trip, to Spain, included a visit to a shrine dedicated to Dominic de la Calzada, a Saint credited with several local miracles. One of the miracles involved the resurrection of a wrongfully hanged German pilgrim, and somehow that legend became the basis for a tradition of keeping a live hen and rooster in the transept of the Church. So, for the last 700 years they have been raising chickens in an ornate "coop" that is built into the building. I thought that was pretty cool.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (2cS/G)

69 This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (1ZOkK)

70 Religious art always makes me feel dim because I know there are layers and layers of fact checkers symbolism that I don't see because I've either forgotten it or never studied it to begin with.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:54 AM (mf5HN)

Oh my, yes. I recently worked on the private library of a woman whose passion was symbolism & emblems. She had books going back to the 16th-Century on the subject. Every detail in a painting or etching meant something.

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 10:06 AM (7HtZB)

71 It's a toomah.

Posted by: General Zod at June 28, 2016 10:06 AM (Bdeb0)

72 I'm with AtC on the failure to grok the symbolisms.

Pretty much grew up as an unchurched, cultural Christian, till age 17, and my spiritual learning since then hasn't focused on the trimmings and trappings of the institutional elements of faith.

That said though, as I grow older and wiser moar in awe of my own stupidity, I do gain more respect for the depth in the traditions of the more ancient sects.

For example, I don't see any "Liberation Theology" running amok in the Eastern Orthodox church, nor the scripture-bending knots of illogic required to seat outright atheists as "pastors" as we've seen in some English congregation out there.

Their theology might not line up with mine, but I've no doubt about sharing a common Fellowship in Christ....and when it gets down to it, that's the only one that counts.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 28, 2016 10:07 AM (v5iqM)

73 ...ugly chandelier!
what type of light bulb does it use?

Posted by: TN Volunteer at June 28, 2016 10:07 AM (SmCFT)

74 I think I'm gonna make myself a dimmable LED Sword of Damocles.

Posted by: JEM at June 28, 2016 10:07 AM (o+SC1)

75 The saint depicted as pierced by arrows is St. Sebastian. History does not record whether he was a crossbow or a longbow man.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (sl+zA)

76 Keys = St Peter

As often as not the keys that that St Peter holds in medieval art are not door keys but rather a dove tail lewis.

http://tinyurl.com/hhkhcfh

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (zwQ7i)

77 >>> what type of light bulb does it use?

CFL... now anyway.

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (Fol9S)

78
69 This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (1ZOkK)

They are soon to be under arrest?

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (MQEz6)

79 Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (3ZoRf)

I was really lucky and had an art history prof who was absolutely fantastic.

I don't remember more than a smidgen, but he taught me to look for those symbols, and it changed the way I appreciate art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (Zu3d9)

80 51 In the bottom one the dude looks a little pissed.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:02 AM (MQEz6)

Bathsheba just sued him for back child support.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (0mRoj)

81 Cthulhu meets Martha Stewart

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (GdFQh)

82
This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.


Oh, Jane, you know I love you, but. . .

The MFM will bury this deeper than Floyd Collins.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2016 10:09 AM (X6fMO)

83 As often as not the keys that that St Peter holds in medieval art are not door keys but rather a dove tail lewis.

And yet, never church keys...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 10:09 AM (9krrF)

84
Jake Tapper

Statement of @HillaryClinton spox on Gowdy committee report on Benghazi attacks

twitter.com/jaketapper/status/747791140955492352




Executive Summary

Ur being mean to me cause ima gurl!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (kdS6q)

85 The dude asked for a cushion for his seat.

Did not get one.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (MQEz6)

86 Oh my, yes. I recently worked on the private library
of a woman whose passion was symbolism emblems. She had books
going back to the 16th-Century on the subject. Every detail in a
painting or etching meant something.

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 10:06 AM (7HtZB)
=====
I think it is called 'semiotics'. Umberto Eco is a professor of semiotics in Italy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (MIKMs)

87 Zither and yawn.

Posted by: Old Testament Music Critic at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (lHb9q)

88
I can't bring myself to listen to the presser.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (pC96u)

89 69 This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (1ZOkK)

They are soon to be under arrest?

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (MQEz6)


I agree. Unless we can see Hillary! being led away in handcuffs, I don't see any "devastation."

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (TOssO)

90 Looks a bit like Clapton...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (C9pBZ)

91 I thought semiotics was pasta that was good for the digestive tract.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (sl+zA)

92 "So after the major fall, what next ..."

Posted by: King David thought bubble at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (2WoCi)

93 Here's a Wallacavage desk lamp: http://tinyurl.com/zqfoauo

It's a theme in most of his work, but he primarily does chandeliers.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (F26eZ)

94 err .. minor fall

Posted by: King David thought bubble at June 28, 2016 10:12 AM (2WoCi)

95
The New York Times

House Benghazi Report Finds No New Evidence of Wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton

Ending one of the longest, costliest and most bitterly partisan congressional investigations in history....




In Ukrainian famine news, what famine?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:12 AM (kdS6q)

96 I know that virtually none of you have never done a proper job in your
lives, or worked in business, or worked in trade, or indeed ever created
a job.
-- Nigel Farage to the EU Politburo

Not entirely true...they created legions upon legions of Botherers.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 10:13 AM (hqZPQ)

97 75 The saint depicted as pierced by arrows is St. Sebastian. History does not record whether he was a crossbow or a longbow man.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (sl+zA)

Also, St Ursula (according to this webpage.) She was shot by the huns and is also usually surrounded with virgins (it is part of the story.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:13 AM (3ZoRf)

98 I was hoping for a Deval Patrick reference, but this works.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 28, 2016 10:00 AM (bzd8I)
____________________

So many to choose from . . . .

Posted by: HILLARY CLINTON at June 28, 2016 10:13 AM (NnYnv)

99
Umberto Eco is a professor of semiotics in Italy.


Eco died in February.

I always liked The Name of the Rose, but I just couldn't get into his other novels.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2016 10:13 AM (X6fMO)

100 93 Here's a Wallacavage desk lamp: http://tinyurl.com/zqfoauo
It's a theme in most of his work, but he primarily does chandeliers.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 10:11 AM (F26eZ)


Holy hell. That looks like something you'd buy at a Mexican flea market.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (TOssO)

101
Peter Daou*

How despicable is it for @TGowdySC to play politics on the graves of American heroes? VERY.

*Former adviser to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. Activist. War survivor.



[expletive]

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (kdS6q)

102 Eco's books on art and lists are great, you should look into those.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (F26eZ)

103 There was a cool Dale Chihuly exhibit at our Botanical Gardens last summer. Perfect place for these sculptures.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)

104 I don't often care for the style of religious art of that period. It sometimes seems stilted, relying on the viewer's piety for acceptance instead of artistic technique. ("Hey. There's a halo. This must be good art!) In this case, the detail and color of David's clothes, his throne, and instrument against the starkly plain background is very effective. I wonder if the colors were even more brilliant when it was new.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (V+03K)

105 28 I love both of those.

Religious art always makes me feel dim because I know there are layers and layers of fact checkers symbolism that I don't see because I've either forgotten it or never studied it to begin with.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:54 AM (mf5HN)

Most old school catholics grow up with copies of Butler's Lives of the Saints. It is not surprising that most do not know it as Saints and Martyrs take a beating (see what I did there) in some protestant denominations.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (3ZoRf)

106 Hillary reminds me of the old lady working the desk of an inn who looked like a sweet old lady but her bottom half was tentacles and she had her husband chained to her but more sinister. She makes that old lady look nice. Can't remember which movie that was from.

Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 10:15 AM (3/uST)

107 Overuse of semiotics has led to the evolution of Superpaintings.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:15 AM (MQEz6)

108 Semiotics,

That would be like gang signs, and the marks hobos put on easy marks, and grafiti tags.

Freemason handshakes, ghetto slang, secret languages, dog whistles, tattos, product placement in hollywood movies, government acronyms, and techno babble in star trek movies.

No?

Posted by: Willie Peter-Haines at June 28, 2016 10:15 AM (xglkX)

109 This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (1ZOkK)




MFM: Press conference? What press conference?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 10:15 AM (493sH)

110 I need a huge federal grant, because I have this plan, see.

Carbon sequestration. Now hear me out.


First we develop a mechanism by which carbon is removed from the atmosphere, and bound with hydrogen for long term storage, (with a bonus...the 'exhaust' from this system will release pure, life giving O2). The carbon output, which is fairly stable when bound with hydrogen, can be simply buried away, and forgotten, since even if it does break down over time, it doesn't release anything but CO2, and water.

Alternatively, we can use this bound carbon as a 100 percent carbon neutral energy source, which can be used to generate electricity, power trains, ships, and other vehicles, and can even be put to use cooking delicious ribs on weekends.

I'm calling this the Gaia Respecting Alternative Sequestration System, or G.R.A.S.S.


So, question is, Grant request to the feds, or kickstarter first?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 28, 2016 10:15 AM (wrIl2)

111 @lindafell

In The Mouth of Madness

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (F26eZ)

112 New York Times Shows No Evidence of Japanese Involvement with Explosions at Pearl Harbor

- December 8, 1941

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (hqZPQ)

113
This presser is devastating for Hillary and the JEF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh



NYT Politics

The House Benghazi panel clears Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing after long and bitter inquiry

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (kdS6q)

114 Excuse me, Mr. Gambini, the whats?

Did you say lutes?

Posted by: Judge Chamberlain at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (lHb9q)

115 Most old school catholics grow up with copies of Butler's Lives of the Saints. It is not surprising that most do not know it as Saints and Martyrs take a beating (see what I did there) in some protestant denominations.

We lost a lot with Vatican II that I wish was kept.

Your saint for the day: St. Flora, patron of the abandoned, converts, single laywomen, and victims of betrayal.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (9krrF)

116 CNN is not even covering the Republican Majority presser for Benghazi

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (zp+j1)

117
101
Peter Daou*

How despicable is it for @TGowdySC to play politics on the graves of American heroes? VERY.

*Former adviser to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. Activist. War survivor.



[expletive]
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (kdS6q)

Who put them in their graves, bitch?

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (MQEz6)

118
I can't bring myself to listen to the presser.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:10 AM (pC96u)
----------------------

And yet I'm listening to it. It's awful, but Republicans in suits are simply not going to convince anyone of anything. The people who were there will have to make a Swiftboat-type featurette or maybe Donald can make something of it in his inimitable way.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (pC96u)

119 94 err .. minor fall
Posted by: King David thought bubble at June 28, 2016 10:12 AM (2WoCi)

You seem baffled.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (0mRoj)

120 So in the previous thread it was observed that the German Bundeswehr has one company of Leopard tanks and one company of mechanized infantry forward-deployed in Poland.

Not to be outdone, Prince Chooming has ordered similarly scanty American armored forces into Poland. Part of his "security guarantee" to the Poles.

Well, it has now been learned that during the fighting in Ukraine, there was an opportunity for Putin's forces to try out the new generation of Russian rocket artillery systems against Ukrainian formations. Result?

Two Ukrainian mechanized battalions wiped out. In three minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/horgxfx

Another Task Force Smith moment is on the horizon. It'll be ugly when it comes. Tell your younger family members to stay out of the military. No point in getting them killed for nothing.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (noWW6)

121 New York Times -- No Evidence of German Involvement in Large Death Toll at Relocation Camps in Europe -- May 1, 1945

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (hqZPQ)

122 ...well OK, more a saint I've been ruminating on.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (9krrF)

123 Don't feel too bad AlextheChick about not knowing the symbolism behind much of religious art and architecture for that matter.

The new St. Thomas Catholic Church in Long Beach, MS that replaced the one Katrina destroyed is an aesthetic and religious mess.

Three statues survived from the old church, so in the new church they are inside their own little temples with columns. The architect put a wall of recovered wood from the old church that is so placed it seems to come between the priest/congregation and the depiction of Christ in the stained glass window above. And the four stained glass windows that survived are misaligned one could say with the new statuary that could emphasize what is being depicted in the windows. The Stations of the Cross are along the outer wall but it is easy to miss one they are so haphazardly arranged. And way up, about 20ft high, are these tiny stained glass windows with saints depicted; but they are so high and so small it is hard to see who is who.

Externally this Church is built in the Spanish Mission Motif while inside is this humongous open space with all these exposed but dark stained wooden roof beams forty feet up.

As I said, the church is an architectural mess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (C6duO)

124 Matthias is the axe man.

http://www.gocek.org/christiansymbols/?search=
Has a nice listing.

Posted by: Kent Brockman at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (+m6Jw)

125
116 CNN is not even covering the Republican Majority presser for Benghazi
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 10:17 AM (zp+j1)

It would be nice if a guest or two on CNN rudely called them out on that.

But, no, gotta be polite.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (MQEz6)

126 CNN is not even covering the Republican Majority presser for Benghazi
Posted by: Nevergiveup



I'm watching it live on CNN.

You may want to adjust your rabbit ears.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (1xUj/)

127 St Martin of Tours is another good one. He is always depicted with a cloak (and usually a sword.) He was a Roman soldier. The story goes that he cut his cloak in half with his sword to give to a beggar, clad in rags in winter.

The church I went to in Louisville was St Martin of Tours. Pro-tip, if you are looking for the most conservative Catholic church in town, find the one that still offers latin mass.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:19 AM (3ZoRf)

128 New York Times -- Explosions of Unknown Origin Destroy World Trade Center; Can Fire Actually Melt Steel? - September 12, 2001

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 10:20 AM (hqZPQ)

129 Also, St Ursula (according to this webpage.) She was shot by the huns


****

"Get thee to a hunnery!"

Posted by: Zombie Wm Shkspr at June 28, 2016 10:20 AM (lHb9q)

130
Had to cut my last teenth with contact lens saline solution. Need next episode of https://www.lyingcrookedhillary.com/

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:21 AM (pC96u)

131 Russia's murderous adventures through Ukraine were perfectly predictable to anyone who was aware of the situation when we began to remove our troops from Germany. Liberals and Libertarians alike reveled in our retreat, and all of the supposed "savings" in military expenditures amounted to nothing. Good call, assholes.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2016 10:21 AM (2cS/G)

132 I appreciate the proud British tradition of sniping at people while giving speeches in Parliament. Farage's speech to the EU Parliament was hilarious.

Posted by: brak at June 28, 2016 10:21 AM (MJuTN)

133 The horde fails to comment on the absence of both snipers and boobehs from todays art?

*stunned*

Posted by: MTF at June 28, 2016 10:22 AM (/m8T6)

134 We lost a lot with Vatican II that I wish was kept.

Your saint for the day: St. Flora, patron of the abandoned, converts, single laywomen, and victims of betrayal.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 10:16 AM (9krrF)

Agree completely. The history of the church is a lot of it's draw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:23 AM (3ZoRf)

135 121 New York Times -- No Evidence of German Involvement in Large Death Toll at Relocation Camps in Europe -- May 1, 1945
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 28, 2016 10:18 AM (hqZPQ

____

WaPo - Rumors had it that 7 million jews were killed by the Germans. Turns out only 6 million died. Therefore this is "mostly false".

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 28, 2016 10:23 AM (0LHZx)

136 A raver's vajayjay at dawn.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:23 AM (hNICT)

137 Lances symbolize gays in show biz.

Posted by: Lance Bass at June 28, 2016 10:24 AM (74myz)

138 My takeaway so far from the presser is that the movie - no not the BS internet movie - but the movie "13 Hours" is true in its entirety and in all of its implications and conclusions.

I actually find it breathtaking that they don't come out and explicitly call Obama, Hillary and the entire administration team - corrupt and evil.

These people purposely allowed the people in Benghazi to die, then the lied about it and now, for them, life goes on as if nothing has happened. And worse, they have profited from contributions and money donated in order to continue to obscure the truth of what they did in order to advance their political careers.

Benghazi is a metaphor for the current state of our government and our politics.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 10:24 AM (4ng05)

139 132 I appreciate the proud British tradition of sniping at people while giving speeches in Parliament. Farage's speech to the EU Parliament was hilarious.
Posted by: brak at June 28, 2016 10:21 AM (MJuTN)

____

House of Commons is one of the most entertaining things to watch. Even if it's mundane shit like tax policy or whatever, it's always a spectacle as each aide tries to get a snarky dig at the other.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 28, 2016 10:24 AM (0LHZx)

140 NYT: No Evidence of Jack the Ripper's Involvement In Prostitute Deaths

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:25 AM (Nwg0u)

141 That top photo is how we envision the Zika virus, only we usually depict it with a handlebar mustache and goatee.

Posted by: CDC interpretative artiste at June 28, 2016 10:25 AM (lHb9q)

142 A hobo's chode.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:25 AM (hNICT)

143 Religious art always makes me feel dim because I know there are layers and layers of fact checkers symbolism that I don't see because I've either forgotten it or never studied it to begin with. Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair 


I once criticized a religious painting because of the juvenile way the hands were depicted. Lo and behold, years later I discovered that it was an intentional effect. Sort of like gang signs, but religious.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at June 28, 2016 10:26 AM (ZnIt3)

144 I assume that top thing is Cthulhu's heart? Imagine trying to do bypass surgery on THAT thing...

As for David, I didn't know he had a club foot.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 10:26 AM (TOk1P)

145 Alternative name for the first piece of art

Shit What falls out of Hillary's Cooch.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2016 10:26 AM (ptqRm)

146 "I'm calling this the Gaia Respecting Alternative Sequestration System, or G.R.A.S.S."

Amusingly enough, W.E.E.D. has an insatiable appetite for carbon dioxide.

High intensity indoor grow ops such as you find in the Netherlands often actually pump concentrated CO2 in with the cannabis plants to accelerate their growth. Which it does. Markedly so.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2016 10:26 AM (noWW6)

147 142 A hobo's chode.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:25 AM (hNICT)

You laugh, but I was looking at houses way out of my price range on zillow once and in a stairwell there was a chandelier that looked a lot like the first picture. My first thought was that it looked like nothing less than a bunch of sperm, swarming an egg.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (3ZoRf)

148
"I find it morally reprehensible" ain't gonna cut it.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (pC96u)

149 A 5 hour delay while our people were being attacked in Benghazi. Reports are that deployable forces were in and out of uniform 4 times because State/Admin didn't want us to be seen as invading forces.

What? Dereliction of duty and a bank of lies.

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (oiNtH)

150
VICE News

The long-awaited Benghazi report doesn't show that Hillary Clinton did anything wrong

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (kdS6q)

151 No evidence New York Times involved in actual reporting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)

152 Obviously, the bottom picture shows a medieval shoulder thing that goes up.

But... the top one could possibly be one too.

We better ban them both.

Posted by: Dutchess Carolyn McCarthy at June 28, 2016 10:29 AM (Yq8TA)

153 Speaking of religious symbols, is the usage of the triple parentheses to designate Joo names considered anti-semitiotic?

Posted by: Ephraim Symbolist, Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:29 AM (lHb9q)

154 Would I do such a thing?

*shifty eyes*
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 09:56 AM


Which set is smaller, things you would do, or things you wouldn't do?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2016 10:29 AM (xx+WQ)

155
Greta Van Susteren

Am I the only one who noticed the guys got to speak first? press conference





Hope you marry an Irishman with a temper and a drinking problem.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:30 AM (kdS6q)

156 Kirsten Powers sez it's sexist to criticize angry, vase-throwing Hillary.

-
Because Obozo is also a bitch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:30 AM (Nwg0u)

157 There is no evidence that this administration are fulfilling their duty to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 10:31 AM (oiNtH)

158 I love Chihuly's work!

Posted by: sinalco at June 28, 2016 10:32 AM (yODqO)

159 Whatever happened to video guy? Paid off and on a beach in Costa Rica ?

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 10:32 AM (oiNtH)

160 >>The long-awaited Benghazi report doesn't show that Hillary Clinton did anything wrong



How about: The long-awaited Benghazi report doesn't show that Hillary Clinton did anything.

And *that's* what's wrong - she'd rather have no political error (by choosing not to act) than save lives.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:32 AM (NOIQH)

161 No evidence New York Times involved in actual reporting.Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. 


I know of one time they actually reported something. When Lee Harvey Oswald went to the ussr. No other newspaper ever reported that little tidbit of information. Shows just how close to the commies they were (and still are).

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at June 28, 2016 10:32 AM (ZnIt3)

162 149
A 5 hour delay while our people were being attacked in Benghazi.
Reports are that deployable forces were in and out of uniform 4 times
because State/Admin didn't want us to be seen as invading forces.



What? Dereliction of duty and a bank of lies.

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (oiNtH)

Am I the only one that remembers DrewM telling us they couldn't have gotten there in time?

Uh huh.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2016 10:32 AM (Enq6K)

163
Kirsten Powers sez it's sexist to criticize angry, vase-throwing Hillary.
-------------------

I wonder if she'll read the book or interview Gary Byrne.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:33 AM (pC96u)

164
The brits are weird. They like to add ZZA/y to people's names. For example, Jeremy Corbyn is Jezzy. Boris Johnson is now Bozza.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 28, 2016 10:33 AM (iQIUe)

165 The New York Times

House Benghazi Report Finds No New Evidence of Wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton

This morning, Robin on CNN said that the report demonstrates failures at every level of government, due to administrative arguing and inability to make decisions.
Then she gleefully said that the report doesn't show Hillary did anything wrong.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 10:35 AM (PiuBB)

166
Ty Woods's widow is a great speaker and a force to be reckoned with. Trump ought to have her speak at the convention. He ought to put her in the front row at the debates and tell Hillary to look that woman in the eye and repeat the question, "At this point, what does it matter?" He ought to put all the families in the front row and have Hillary repeat that she never looked them in the eye and told them it was a video.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:36 AM (pC96u)

167 Even MSLSD is covering the presser.

My heart breaks for the families of the Benghazi dead.

Hillary and Barry may not pay in this life, but Teddy Kennedy is holding a couple of spots next to him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:36 AM (1ZOkK)

168
Fox Business is showing video of Prezzy Choom f-ing around on camera with the caption - The Presidency isn't a reality show. What an utter embarrassment of a president this immature ass of a person is. What's even more of an embarrassment are the idiots who still support him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 10:36 AM (493sH)

169 I guess I should link to this old post of mine on art and religious symbolism before running off to get Mega Million tickets.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/12/child-is-born-unto-us.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (C6duO)

170 That is in part because of our woefully inadequate religious education.

As an example, my mom is Israeli, and she studied the Old Testament in school, mostly as literature and history.

It was really embarrassing as a kid when she could identify the Old Testament people without even a second glance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:01 AM (Zu3d9)



Yeah. I don't have that excuse. The only non-religious education I received was half day kindergarten and law school. Everything else was via religious schools.

In my kind of defense, I'm Baptist and I'm from the wing that believes that religious iconography borders on idol worship. Our only sacrament is the pot luck dinner and church decorations involve the flowers from the most recent wedding or funeral. So it's not like there's an abundance

But still. I should know this stuff.

An interesting side note. In grade school, we spent several weeks building a model of the Temple grounds. It was merely assumed that we would know all of the OT sacrificial requirements and the layout of the grounds and the various sacramental garments and the like.

No, I don't remember most of it.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (mf5HN)

171 Kirsten Powers sez it's sexist to criticize angry, vase-throwing Hillary. 


Women once sought equality. Now it's fine to criticize a man for any and everything, but women are above reproach.

Seems like they have now achieved something a little beyond equality.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket - let your conscience be your guide at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (ZnIt3)

172 I like angry Gowdy.

The MFM is trying their best to protect their Hell Bitch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (1ZOkK)

173 >>House Benghazi Report Finds No New Evidence


Ah, reminds me of Hillary's first interview after the Lewinsky affair came out. SHe said, "These allegation will not be proved true."

"No new evidence"..."Won;t be proved true"...it's like these people studied Columbo for the best way to react when caught.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:38 AM (NOIQH)

174 Tami - I do remember that and it was total BS.

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 10:38 AM (oiNtH)

175 Heh. The committee standing by Hillary being "morally reprehensible."

The MFM is pissed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:38 AM (1ZOkK)

176 Beware, the shrieking harpy Nancy Grace is ranting about the alleged IU rapist Enoch.. She's a close second to Hillary in her smug indignation.
My guess is if the DA can't make the case in court then she will make the case in the MFM.

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 10:38 AM (Fol9S)

177 I can't remember the details, but wifey was in Italy a few years ago and identified a previously overlooked Rennaissance-era door panel as being a reference to some Saint. I can't remember what semiotic device she noticed, but it had been unrecognized (or forgotten) for centuries before she ID'd it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2016 10:39 AM (2cS/G)

178 Top one could be Hillary!'s diseased brain.

Posted by: Weasel at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (6xtq3)

179 Trump needs to have the Benghazi survivors at the convention, along with the families of the dead.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (1ZOkK)

180 Why isn't Hillary Clinton in leg-irons?

Also, her mouth needs to be ball-gagged so that she can't cast any incantations at her minders and escape.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (2Mnv1)

181 I learned last night that ancient British history was basically written by the Romans since Britons did not have a literacy system.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (nFitA)

182 The Empire is pleased with the Gowdy unit.

It has served Us well.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (MQEz6)

183 Gowdy putting Dana Bash some knowledge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (1ZOkK)

184 I like angry Gowdy.


Short version of angry Gowdy: "You're not going to read the report and you're going to print your version of the story, you simpering twats".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (1xUj/)

185 183
Gowdy putting Dana Bash some knowledge.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:40 AM (1ZOkK)

That's like trying to teach a rock to read.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (Enq6K)

186 Alternate title: "Octopus Orgy".

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (zoehZ)

187 A 3-D reproduction of that idiot George W. Bush's brain !!!! Bush lied to our Black Presdent and that bothers us. we demand that Bush be held accountable for his actions against persons of all colors to benefit those of no color.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (NuElX)

188 Short version of angry Gowdy: "You're not going to
read the report and you're going to print your version of the story, you
simpering twats".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (1xUj/)


This^^^^^^^^^^

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:42 AM (1ZOkK)

189 I miss the Simpering Twats. Its too bad they never got more airplay, they could have been yuuuuuuge.

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 10:43 AM (Fol9S)

190
I appreciate the proud British tradition of sniping at people while
giving speeches in Parliament. Farage's speech to the EU Parliament was
hilarious.

Is the EU Parliament really that big....a huge room full of "representatives"
Looks like the UN General Assembly, huge, but doesn't really do much of anything.

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 10:43 AM (HQP2c)

191 >>>>>
I learned last night that ancient British history was basically written
by the Romans since Britons did not have a literacy system.
.
.
.
.Uh they (the Brits) didn't even share a common language at that point in time, let alone anything written.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 28, 2016 10:43 AM (iONHu)

192 No, I don't remember most of it.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (mf5HN)

I grow old...I grow old

...I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 10:43 AM (Zu3d9)

193 General Ham didn't know our guys were ambushed from the compound to the annex.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:43 AM (1ZOkK)

194 147 142 A hobo's chode.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:25 AM (hNICT)

You laugh, but I was looking at houses way out of my price range on zillow once and in a stairwell there was a chandelier that looked a lot like the first picture. My first thought was that it looked like nothing less than a bunch of sperm, swarming an egg.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:27 AM (3ZoRf

I'm not surprised. Too much money makes most people do, like, and buy ridiculous things. Yes I used to be guilty of it 12 years ago. I love art and museums.

I'm now is a poverty level minimalist refusing all government help. I've never slept better at night. But to each their own as long as the those whom are hurting get help ( through giving back by other avenues locally and those not involving the government) from those that can afford to do it.

As I said to each their own.

My question is when will the millions of sperm attacking the egg become a hate crime? Or is that implied?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:44 AM (hNICT)

195 Do you dare to eat a peach?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:44 AM (1xUj/)

196
Who's "Orson"? He says to circle July 12 on our calendars. Something about the FBI primary. I'm giving up on Benghazi.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:44 AM (pC96u)

197 From Drudge: Rio police protest lack of toilet paper.

1) Best Olympics ever.

2) What is it about South America and toilet paper?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:44 AM (Nwg0u)

198 187 Hillary!'s brain!

Posted by: Weasel at June 28, 2016 10:45 AM (6xtq3)

199 Gowdy is useless.

The traitors got away with it and everybody knows it.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:45 AM (MQEz6)

200 Events seem to be "accelerating", at least to me.

I don't think we're very far away from the next Kristallnacht and Reichstag Fire.

YMMV. Probably does.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2016 10:45 AM (cxvn3)

201 Short version of angry Gowdy: "You're not going to read the report and you're going to print your version of the story, you simpering twats".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:41 AM (1xUj/)



I am going to live my truth that those are the words he actually used.

Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 28, 2016 10:46 AM (mf5HN)

202 >>I love Chihuly's work!


Really?

I think it is some of the ugliest shit I have ever seen.


Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 10:46 AM (9JISm)

203 199
Gowdy is useless.



He's done everything he could possibly do under this corrupt administration.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:46 AM (1ZOkK)

204 This is all a show.

No one is going to be punished in any way.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:47 AM (MQEz6)

205 Gowdy is, and has been, telling the country just how terribly corrupt and evil the Administration is. It's not his fault that nobody seems to care.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (2cS/G)

206
Gowdy is useless.


He's done everything he could possibly do under this corrupt administration.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:46 AM (1ZOkK)
---------------------

He didn't call Dana Bash a lying, lazy, agendized twit to her face.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (pC96u)

207 The Bible I've been reading for past 40 years is the Living Bible which is the Bible translated in today's language. The one I have now is the one I gave to my Grandfather in 1973 and I inherited after he passed. What's amazing is I've handled it and read it everyday as he did since that time and it's no worse for the wear. I wonder if they are made that durable knowing they will be passed down?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (nFitA)

208 169 I guess I should link to this old post of mine on art and religious symbolism before running off to get Mega Million tickets.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/12/child-is-born-unto-us.html
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2016 10:37 AM (C6duO)

Good post and nice painting. One of my favorites is the Calling of St Matthew by Caravaggio. There is something about that painting that just speaks to me. Christ's hand from across the room. The look of "Who? Me? Are you looking for me or are you pointing at the guy next to me?" seems like a profoundly human moment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (3ZoRf)

209 203 199
Gowdy is useless.


He's done everything he could possibly do under this corrupt administration.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:46 AM (1ZOkK)

How could we possibly know that?

He has done the job he was assigned to do: put on a good act until the middle of 2016.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (MQEz6)

210 64 What's up with the dude's right foot?
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:05 AM (MQEz6

He had just finished writing the final book in a series of novels. He checked out of the lodge to deliver the manuscript but a snowstorm caused a terrible accident.

Lucky for him, Annie Wilks saved his life with her nursing skills.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 10:49 AM (hNICT)

211 Ok, I'm being lazy....anyone have a link or know where one could read the report?

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2016 10:49 AM (Enq6K)

212 Gowdy is useless.

The traitors got away with it and everybody knows it.


The GOP lets the Dems betray the people and the republic time and again.

If anyone wonders why I want to see the GOP obliterated, wonder no longer.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 10:49 AM (9krrF)

213
Gowdy is useless.

He's done everything he could possibly do under this corrupt administration.
Posted by: Jane D'oh




Some Republican members of the panel would disagree:

https://tinyurl.com/z9nwdlv

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:50 AM (kdS6q)

214 Gowdy's head is too skinny. Seriously - that's got to be the smallest little pencil head I've seen.

Posted by: Weasel at June 28, 2016 10:50 AM (6xtq3)

215
Hi!

How fares the Moronverse on this fine, sunny summer morning?


What the heck is that thing above...Hillary!'s true form when she sloughs off her BioCoproMechanoArmor?

Posted by: H D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat - Part One: Flaming Hoops" at June 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)

216 This is how I see Gowdy as useless:

Hillary is not in irons.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:50 AM (MQEz6)

217 As I said earlier, unless the report explicitly blames Hillary or points fingers at specific people in the administration the this entire exercise is pointless.

Hillary is quite literally going to get away with murder - AGAIN!!

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (7WV/f)

218
Ok, I'm being lazy....anyone have a link or know where one could read the report?
Posted by: Tami



http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (kdS6q)

219 The purple octopus of Damocles is hanging over my head. I think it symbolizes entropy.

Posted by: King David at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (74myz)

220 Gowdy's head is too skinny. Seriously - that's got to be the smallest little pencil head I've seen.


Pfft.

Posted by: Zippy at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (1xUj/)

221 Mark Oz Geist and John Tiegen, both fought at Benghazi. Speaking at the NRA ILA forum in May.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP2AwsLnpu0

Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (PiuBB)

222 >>The traitors got away with it and everybody knows it.

Then they didn't get away with it. If the American people still decide to elect Hillary Clinton that's on them not on Gowdy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (/tuJf)

223 NASA's SLS booster qual test in five minutes, people!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (wrIl2)

224
Gowdy is, and has been, telling the country just how terribly corrupt and evil the Administration is. It's not his fault that nobody seems to care.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (2cS/G)
------------------------

Hillary knows history will catch up with her, but I want her to go down in flames in this life.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (pC96u)

225 http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (kdS6q)


Tank you!

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2016 10:52 AM (Enq6K)

226 test

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:52 AM (mHKcx)

227 195 Do you dare to eat a peach?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:44 AM


Yes.

Posted by: The Allman Brothers at June 28, 2016 10:53 AM (xx+WQ)

228

The Guardian

House Benghazi report faults military response, not Clinton, for deaths

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:53 AM (kdS6q)

229 Gowdy's head is too skinny. Seriously - that's got to be the smallest little pencil head I've seen.


Pfft.
Posted by: Zippy

Are we having conviction yet?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:53 AM (Nwg0u)

230 The same LIVs who elected Obama twice, will see the blood-stained Hell Bitch elected POTUS.

God help us all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:53 AM (1ZOkK)

231
222 >>The traitors got away with it and everybody knows it.

Then they didn't get away with it. If the American people still decide to elect Hillary Clinton that's on them not on Gowdy.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 10:51 AM (/tuJf)

That result would not make Gowdy look any better.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:54 AM (MQEz6)

232 I'm in Iowa presently and Hillary has ads on all channels, several times an hour.
Makes her look like a saint, they do.

Posted by: navybrat at June 28, 2016 10:54 AM (mrxD3)

233
Who's "Orson"?

That's the guy Mork reported to on Ork.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 10:55 AM (IqV8l)

234 "No new evidence"..."Won;t be proved true"...it's like these people studied Columbo for the best way to react when caught.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:38 AM (NOIQH)


Right. They're not saying they *didn't* do it, only that no evidence exists that could be used to prove that they did.

The Clinton crime cabal does this kind of lawyerly parsing a lot.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 10:55 AM (mHKcx)

235 Perini Inc. of Sylmar won the $1 billion contract, initially awarded for
a 29-mile segment from American Avenue at the south edge of Fresno to
Avenue 17 in Madera for the new highspeed rail system for California.

California's "Highspeed" rail moving right along...a billion here and a billion there, after a while it will cost real money...

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 10:56 AM (HQP2c)

236 The administration is still holding back e-mails and transcripts, per Gowdy.

I can't even.

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:57 AM (1ZOkK)

237 Oh, poor, poor Trey.

He keeps telling everyone to read the report and make up their own minds.

As if.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 10:57 AM (1xUj/)

238 The presser is just a scene in a much larger carny act.

We are the suckers.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:58 AM (MQEz6)

239 What is it about South America and toilet paper?
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Dispose in waste basket; don't flush it!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 28, 2016 10:58 AM (NUqwG)

240 103 There was a cool Dale Chihuly exhibit at our Botanical Gardens last summer. Perfect place for these sculptures.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)

Ours has done one too, but the best I've seen was the Dallas Arboretums Chihuly exhibit, just because it 's a huge garden and goes on and on.

Chihuly's permanent museum and garden installation is in Seattle and we really enjoyed it. My city's main library has a huge fixture like the one in the picture.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at June 28, 2016 10:58 AM (ozZau)

241 I notice the seal carved into the wall behind Davids throne, and how it is framed in such a way as to almost be a halo. Another of the symbolism of religious iconography.
Which reminds me of the slavish ways of our press during Obama's first election, how they would jockey and jostle to get that picture with the lights, or seals, just right behind the Shit Midas as to create the halo effect.

Mutter curse curse mutter mutter.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 28, 2016 10:58 AM (kKHcp)

242 And that's when the fight started.


http://i.___ur.com/1EYLoXQ.jpg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)

243
Luke Russert

Gowdy won't publicly offer opinion on Hillary's leadership during @Benghazi




"Wouldn't be prudent... 1000 points of light."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 10:59 AM (kdS6q)

244 CNN right now: "GOP-led panel finds no wrong doing by Clinton"

The Clinton News Network.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:59 AM (1ZOkK)

245 235 Perini Inc. of Sylmar won the $1 billion contract, initially awarded for
a 29-mile segment from American Avenue at the south edge of Fresno to
Avenue 17 in Madera for the new highspeed rail system for California.

California's "Highspeed" rail moving right along...a billion here and a billion there, after a while it will cost real money...
Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 10:56 AM (HQP2c)

____

Hey kids wanna go to Fresno for the weekend via high speed train from Madera?

Posted by: Sentences That Will Never Be Spoken at June 28, 2016 10:59 AM (0LHZx)

246 MSLSD: Failure of military.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)

247 Saw a Chihuly exhibit at the Bronx botanical gardens.
They had a video showing how he made glass work and paintings.
The paintings were done with ketchup squeeze bottles filled with paint.
It took him about a minute to do a painting.

Later I was in the bookstore. They had a similar 11x14" painting for $2500 ($2800 framed). A middle aged couple was standing there stroking their chins. Next time I saw them they were in the checkout line buying the painting.

I figure $2500 for a minutes work is $150,000 an hour --good work if you can get it.

Posted by: AE at June 28, 2016 11:01 AM (ITo+e)

248 You know what I think I'm going to hate most about Hillary! being president, aside from the continuation of progressive policies that will do nothing but continue the downward spiral of our once-great country, is having to listen to her shrill, shrieking voice. Gahhh! It grates on my nerves like a rusty nail on a chalkboard.

That, and having her legions of MSM fluffers continuing to try to tell us how wonderful she is on a 24/7 basis. That won't be fun, either.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:01 AM (mHKcx)

249 Farce smothered in farce sauce.

Typical gope crap.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 11:01 AM (MQEz6)

250 >> My city's main library has a huge fixture like the one in the picture.


My Aunt has one.
Pieces are constantly falling off of it.
She'll be sitting there and pieces will just jump ship.

Probably want to strike out on their own in an attempt to be less ugly.

Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 11:01 AM (9JISm)

251 Better link.


http://tinyurl.com/j49nzzo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (Nwg0u)

252 >>It grates on my nerves like a rusty nail on a chalkboard.

Pray she doesn't nominate Warren as her VP.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (/tuJf)

253 CNN right now: "GOP-led panel finds no wrong doing by Clinton"

The Clinton News Network.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:59 AM (1ZOkK)
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That could be correct (ignoring propriety). She didn't do anything. Certainly nothing wrong then! Now, about the evil and incompetence...

Posted by: RioBravo at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (NUqwG)

254 "Bring me a small lyre!"
Posted by: Ceasar at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (bzd8I)

Somebody call for me?

Posted by: Robert Reich at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (kKHcp)

255 He has done the job he was assigned to do: put on a good act until the middle of 2016.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (MQEz6)

eman, putting Hillary in jail is NOT within Gowdy's ability. She is appointed by the president. She is no longer secretary of state.

There is NOTHING Gowdy can do as far as prosecuting her. If she were still SOS, he could demand she resign or the House could defund the state department(THAT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN).

This is why who is in charge of the executive branch matters. The SOS works for that branch. Obama is as involved in this indecision as Hillary because he was running guns, etc. to his Muslim brotherhood friends in Syria though Libya and didn't want congress or the public to know.

Chris Stevens and the others were expendable. As Hillary put it, "What difference does it make?" What was important to them was that no one found out about the gun running and therefore the cover up began when everything went to hell.

We can all be frustrated over no one in this administration EVER being held accountable for ANYTHING they do. Half of this country elected these assholes and half of the country right now wants to elect Hillary to continue on. Be mad at your fellow Americans, instead of ripping into a Congressman who had the fortitude to at least bring the truth to light.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (PiuBB)

256 246 MSLSD: Failure of military.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)

Oh, just fuck them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 11:03 AM (3ZoRf)

257 Dispose in waste basket; don't flush it!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 28, 2016 10:58 AM (NUqwG)


2" drain pipes, vice the 4" pipes which are pretty much standard in the US.

Or so I've been told!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:03 AM (wYnyS)

258 Hey kids wanna go to Fresno for the weekend via high speed train from Madera?

-
It'll put Madera on the map.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 28, 2016 11:04 AM (Nwg0u)

259 Trey Gowdy is a goof all.

If you weren't going to specifically implicate Clinton or directly point fingers at administration officials what makes you think the MSM would read your fucking report and do your job for you?

You stupid motherfucker.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:04 AM (7WV/f)

260 So glad to see that the crucial Fresno-Madera Corridor is finally getting the attention it deserves.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2016 11:04 AM (wMHCu)

261 Oh FFS. Dana Boesh (sp?) is saying that Gowdy wouldn't respond to "Hillary lied" even though it's on campaign slogans and bumper stickers.

All he kept saying was "that's not in the report, read the report".

We're toast.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:04 AM (1xUj/)

262 Fox playing lying Jay Carney's statement at the time.

Carney going on and on about the damned video.

Add Carney Barker to the reserved seating section next to Teddy Kennedy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:04 AM (1ZOkK)

263 I get that the MSM is in the tank for Hillary. But seriously, how the fuck can the GOP fuck up the PR spin on Benghazi so badly? Every time they do something, whether hearings, a report or whatever, it blows up in their face. Can someone on Gowdy's staff take a Marketing 101 course or something?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (0LHZx)

264
Gawker: Republicans Fail to Pin Benghazi Attack on Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (kdS6q)

265
The FBI supposedly recovered all of Hillary's deleted emails. Emails this committee didn't have.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (pC96u)

266 Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 10:48 AM (3ZoRf)

Heh....great painting, but I have never found a good version of it on line. All are almost too dark to use here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (Zu3d9)

267 Failure of military.
--------------
And the failure of the military not only cast a shadow over the the glorious leadership of Secretary Clinton but, more importantly, let down President "The One" Obama!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (NUqwG)

268 Trains go both ways..

Hey kids wanna go to Madera for the weekend via high speed train from Fresno?

Lose/Lose?

Posted by: IP at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (Fol9S)

269 >>If you weren't going to specifically implicate Clinton or directly point fingers at administration officials what makes you think the MSM would read your fucking report and do your job for you?


She'll be judged in the court of public opinion...

Where no evidence of wrongdoing will ever be admissable.

Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (9JISm)

270
Pray she doesn't nominate Warren as her VP.
Posted by: JackStraw


Laura Ingraham pointed out that Warren sounds a lot like Ruth Buzzi's character on the old Laugh In show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (IqV8l)

271 An EU superstate will make it easier to form a world wide Caliphate, once Islam becomes the majority in Europe.

Posted by: Yuimetal at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (74myz)

272 Hillary's DoS dithered about the culturally sensitive correct uniform choice for Marine rescuers while Americans died in Libya.

Jefferson wept!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (wYnyS)

273 For perspective:

When I was sent to SE Asia at the end of the Vietnam war, nobody knew that it was the end of the war. Nobody knew when or whether the war would end. It was only after the war ended that people could tell the war was at the end.

People saying that nobody could have helped the people in Benghazi is exactly the same type of reasoning. Nobody knew that the battle they were end at a certain time and become justification for why no help was sent.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (4ng05)

274 253 CNN right now: "GOP-led panel finds no wrong doing by Clinton"

Funny, when the Democrats in congress were running investigations of various aspects of Bush's foreign policy, I don't remember any CNN reports that started out "Democratic Party-led panel finds..."

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (mHKcx)

275 re: Chihuly chandelier... You can find some fairly reasonably priced knockoffs from china.

Picked up a fairly large one for my foyer a few years ago for under 1k. Looks like a fireball blazing in the windows on the way up the driveway. Though, if you put in a few colored led bulbs, it will look more like an exploding squid.

Posted by: Phil at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (PTq8m)

276 She'll be judged in the court of public opinion...

Where no evidence of wrongdoing will ever be admissable.

Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (9JISm)


Yes, that's worked so well to constrain the Clinton's corruption in the past!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (wYnyS)

277 $150,000 an hour --good work if you can get it.

Posted by: AE at June 28, 2016 11:01 AM (ITo+e)

I make $250k for a 40 minute speech of recycled blather.

He sounds like a hack.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (Zu3d9)

278 Regarding this story on the thread below-


Good bye EU say hello to Superstate.


Why is it any surprise at all that the same group of people, who've told us for decades how great the Soviet system and communism were-

and how awful the USA and capitalism were,-

want to turn the EU into the Soviet Union...literally?


Interesting times ahead for Europe-

it seems clear now that the tsunami of muslim illegals into the EU was to act as the first step, one which broke each individual nation state or plunged it into cultural crisis,

for the EU's plan to become the only controlling authority in a Superstate.


Producers of the James Bond series-

here's your next story. All you need, IMHO, is to come up with analogues for Soros, Merkel, and I suppose, anyone who shows up at Davos.


Welp.

Good for Britain. And all you other patriots of various European nations...good luck. You will need it.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (0cMkb)

279 Sean Trende says the polls are wrong. Not sure which ones, but someone is wrong, because both these statements cannot be true:

To win the Electoral College, Trump simply needs to flip Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The state polling shows Clinton's leads in those states to be 3.4 points, 2.7 points, and 0.5 points, respectively. This isn't consistent with a 12-point Clinton lead, or even the six-point lead that the national average shows.

Posted by: MTF at June 28, 2016 11:08 AM (/m8T6)

280 272
Hillary's DoS dithered about the culturally sensitive correct uniform choice for Marine rescuers while Americans died in Libya.



Yeah. They were forced to change in and out of uniform like four times, because Obama didn't want the appearance of "boots on the ground."


So, let brave men die because of The Narrative.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:08 AM (1ZOkK)

281
HuffPost Politics

House Republicans spent millions of dollars on Benghazi committee to exonerate Clinton

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:08 AM (kdS6q)

282
Questioning whether Hillary's honesty could get any worse.

Holy crap. What a thing to consider.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:08 AM (4ng05)

283 THIS is an example of how the MSM will be approaching this Election: 100% behind the FAB.

And we still have to deal with asshole Republicans

Sigh

There is a reason we lose.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:09 AM (zp+j1)

284 What a colossal waste of time.

Take a bow GOP, this may have been your best work yet.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:09 AM (7WV/f)

285
"Bring me a small lyre!"

Posted by: Ceasar at June 28, 2016 09:55 AM (bzd8I)



Somebody call for me?

Posted by: Robert Reich at June 28, 2016 11:02 AM (kKHcp)

"I didn't do it, I didn't do it, I wasn't even there, the check is in the mail" "not that kind of lyre" said Ceasar

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 11:09 AM (HQP2c)

286 263 I get that the MSM is in the tank for Hillary. But seriously, how the fuck can the GOP fuck up the PR spin on Benghazi so badly? Every time they do something, whether hearings, a report or whatever, it blows up in their face. Can someone on Gowdy's staff take a Marketing 101 course or something?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (0LHZx)

Forget it, Jake. It's Clintontown.

They can literally do anything and get away with it. I think they always will.

I downloaded that Crisis of Character book last night, and read about half of it already.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:09 AM (ozZau)

287 Picked up a fairly large one for my foyer a few years ago for under 1k. Looks like a fireball blazing in the windows on the way up the driveway. Though, if you put in a few colored led bulbs, it will look more like an exploding squid.

---------

The perfect complement to any home decorated in the Marineland Acid Trip aesthetic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (wMHCu)

288
Pray she doesn't nominate Warren as her VP.
Posted by: JackStraw

Laura Ingraham pointed out that Warren sounds a lot like Ruth Buzzi's character on the old Laugh In show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:06 AM (IqV8l)
---------------------

Probably not veep, but Hillary will use her on the campaign because she dishes it at the Donald.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (pC96u)

289 >>All he kept saying was "that's not in the report, read the report".

And yet, MSNBC has already moved to the conclusion that this was a partisan hit job on Hillary. They would have come to that conclusion no matter what Gowdy did or didn't do.

Aside from having Clinton shoot someone on live TV nothing will ever happen to Hillary or any other prominent Democrat. Even if she was caught on live TV I doubt over half this country would have admitted she actually did it.

John Conyers is on MSNBC right now lying his ass off and MSNBC is eating it up. Who expected anything else?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (/tuJf)

290 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (4ng05)

And even if the original "mission" had been overtaken by events, a US force arriving on the ground too late for their original purpose could still have kicked ass and taken names, although in retrospect, perhaps that "wouldn't have been prudent"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (wYnyS)

291 What a colossal waste of time.

Take a bow GOP, this may have been your best work yet.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:09 AM (7WV/f)


Not really. This is a pretty damning report to anyone who is not a fuckin imbicile...so that means the 52% and the MSM

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (zp+j1)

292 Warren is another wealthy lib who can't seem to find a decent hair stylist. She looks like she goes to a barbershop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:11 AM (1ZOkK)

293 People saying that nobody could have helped the people in Benghazi is exactly the same type of reasoning. Nobody knew that the battle they were end at a certain time and become justification for why no help was sent.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:07 AM (4ng05)

Even if help showed up too late, and all they could do was incinerate the scum who were dancing in the blood and waving their AKs in the air for the press (who managed to get there), it would have been better than nothing.

Think of that.
And attack on a consulate, and the country attacked did.....Nothing.

Sends a message, it does.

Posted by: Robert Reich at June 28, 2016 11:11 AM (kKHcp)

294 Not really. This is a pretty damning report to anyone who is not a fuckin imbicile...so that means the 52% and the MSM

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (zp+j1)


Sadly, I think our next President got it right earlier in her testimony "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (wYnyS)

295 Anti-Wall Street Warren as $250K Speech Hilly's sidekick? I think not.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (SEFXb)

296 The administration is still holding back e-mails and transcripts, per Gowdy.

I can't even.

*types*

*deletes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 10:57 AM (1ZOkK)



The most transparent administration ever, comrades

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (493sH)

297 sock off/

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (kKHcp)

298 >>Gowdy won't publicly offer opinion on Hillary's leadership during @Benghazi


Let's see:
--- He opines and the whole report is characterized/dismissed as a partisan witch hunt
--- He doesn't opine and they say the report clears Hillary

*shakes head in disgust*

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (NOIQH)

299 And even if the original "mission" had been overtaken by events, a US force arriving on the ground too late for their original purpose could still have kicked ass and taken names, although in retrospect, perhaps that "wouldn't have been prudent"!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (wYnyS)

Exactly. It could have been, and I think it should have been a "shores of Tripoli" type event. It wouldn't have mattered a whit that they arrived too late.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (4ng05)

300
So, Tay-Tay flew Hiddleston from RI to NYC to Nashville to Sussex to Rome.

I missed my calling. I would make a great kept man.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (iQIUe)

301 torquewrench # 120, that was a depressing article. The thing is I'd heard some of that already from reports on the Ukraine fighting and wondered what we had to counteract it. The answer is nothing.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (gmjUl)

302 Why has the Benghazi focus all this time been on Hilary? She was Secretary of State. obamam was the f'ing Commander in Chief when we were attacked & he went off to Vegas. Hilary has been a decoy to shift blame from TFG & we all took the bait.

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (7HtZB)

303 Sadly, I think our next President got it right earlier in her testimony "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:12 AM (wYnyS)

Don't type that, say that, or even think that. Bad energy and karma

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (zp+j1)

304 Sends a message, it does.

Posted by: Robert Reich at June 28, 2016 11:11 AM (kKHcp)



Believe me sir, America once knew how to send a message!

Posted by: Zombie Thomas Jefferson at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (wYnyS)

305 CNN right now: "GOP-led panel finds no wrong doing by Clinton"





No matter what the evidence or what was really found that will be the headline bleated around the world by the MFM. North Korea has a more honest press

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (493sH)

306 Heh....great painting, but I have never found a good version of it on line. All are almost too dark to use here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 28, 2016 11:05 AM (Zu3d9)

Yeah, it is kind of Caravaggio's style. I actually saw the triptych in Rome at the church of Saint Louis of France. Beautiful church, if french. A huge crowd of people around the Caravaggio paintings.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (3ZoRf)

307 If the military is to blame, it leads back to the same simple question. Who ordered the military to stand down? Start with the lowest level military officer and ask the question until you get to the top. As far as I know, that was never done and that is Gowdy's fault.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (nFitA)

308 "13 Hours" should be required viewing. We saw it in a crowded theater, and when it was over, everyone just sat in silence in their seats.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (1ZOkK)

309 I seem to recall that the Democrats specifically went after the Bush administration all the way up to the President, made the administration have to defend itself day in and day out against direct attacks

The fuckin GOP just stays above the fray never actually going on record with specific charges, never attacking directly hoping the MSM will do the job for them.

Stupid useless bitches.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (7WV/f)

310 Why has the Benghazi focus all this time been on Hilary? She was Secretary of State. obamam was the f'ing Commander in Chief when we were attacked & he went off to Vegas. Hilary has been a decoy to shift blame from TFG & we all took the bait.
Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (7HtZB)


Great point and Susan Rice worked out of the White House, not State

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (zp+j1)

311 From the telegraph article linked in the sidebar:
(Farage to his fellow MEPs)

"Isn't
it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to
lead a campaign go get Britain out of the European Union, you all
laughed at me. Well, I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?"

Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (JBggj)

312 Failure of the military? Who directs the military?
Asswipes.

Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (oiNtH)

313 I was on the road for a few hours this morning and listened to that entire press conference on Benghazi and nearly cried. I am going to read all 800 pages of that report, if nothing eke to honor those heroes.

Posted by: IC at June 28, 2016 11:15 AM (uZVpo)

314 Hilary has been a decoy to shift blame from TFG & we all took the bait.
Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (7HtZB)

Hillary stood over the coffins of those people and lied about what caused their deaths. Clinton has plenty to answer for personally.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:15 AM (4ng05)

315 Don't type that, say that, or even think that. Bad energy and karma

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (zp+j1)


You know, I think you have a point there, but it is pretty comfortable here in the slough of despond right now!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (wYnyS)

316
CNN

[pic]

https://tinyurl.com/h59h64p

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (kdS6q)

317 I keep seeing Hillary, Obama, and the Paste Eater lying their asses off to the victims' families faces.

Not a hot enough place in hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (1ZOkK)

318 23 Chandelier is kind of scary looking. I'm not sure I would want it in my room.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 09:42 AM (pC96u)

Once it drains your life-force it will leave, no worries. Just a little sting and then you see it passing through the wall.


Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2016 09:52 AM (ry34m)


Soooo.... its an alien Redhead?

Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (qf6WZ)

319 I think the Benghazi report was pretty damning....It was pre-empted by the Dems lie report... The media chooses to believe the Dems.... Big surprise...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (O2RFr)

320 Nigel Farage is my new man-crush.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (0mRoj)

321 Alien pole dancer

Posted by: Starring Miley's Tongue as Paul Kersey at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (4p3Tz)

322 @291

Nobody is going to read the report so if they weren't going to come out of the gate and implicate Hillary or administration officials then yes it was a colossal waste of time.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (7WV/f)

323 Not really. This is a pretty damning report to anyone who is not a fuckin imbicile...so that means the 52% and the MSM

If it is read. If it is even known about.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 28, 2016 11:17 AM (9krrF)

324 317 I keep seeing Hillary, Obama, and the Paste Eater lying their asses off to the victims' families faces.

Not a hot enough place in hell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM

Yet Hillary! denies ever having told the Families about the "video" being responsible.....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:17 AM (O2RFr)

325 322
@291



Nobody is going to read the report so if they weren't going to come
out of the gate and implicate Hillary or administration officials then
yes it was a colossal waste of time.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (7WV/f)


For half the country it wasn't. And for the families of the dead, and those injured it sure wasn't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:17 AM (1ZOkK)

326 If the military is to blame, it leads back to the same simple question. Who ordered the military to stand down? Start with the lowest level military officer and ask the question until you get to the top. As far as I know, that was never done and that is Gowdy's fault.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (nFitA)


There are orders somewhere that trace the military events of that night, but since the Obama's hand-selected senior military staff seem to be complicit, they'll never be produced.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:18 AM (wYnyS)

327 "Isn't

it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to

lead a campaign go get Britain out of the European Union, you all

laughed at me. Well, I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?"



Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:14 AM (JBggj)

Yeah, but a lot of hecklers in the room. It sounded like they are still laughingat that silly Englishman.

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 11:18 AM (HQP2c)

328
Yet Hillary! denies ever having told the Families about the "video" being responsible.....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:17 AM (O2RFr)


Yeah, she essentially called the victims' families liars.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:19 AM (1ZOkK)

329 299 And even if the original "mission" had been overtaken by events, a US force arriving on the ground too late for their original purpose could still have kicked ass and taken names, although in retrospect, perhaps that "wouldn't have been prudent"!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:10 AM (wYnyS)

Exactly. It could have been, and I think it should have been a "shores of Tripoli" type event. It wouldn't have mattered a whit that they arrived too late.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (4ng05)


Also consider that no one knew if it WAS over... or if there would be follow on attacks.

Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:19 AM (qf6WZ)

330 Nobody is going to read the report so if they weren't going to come out of the gate and implicate Hillary or administration officials then yes it was a colossal waste of time.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (7WV/f)

No it all adds to her negative ratings and trust issues. A deciding factor, of course not. But it is a drip drip drip effect. Now will it be enough? Who the fuck knows. It sure would help of the asshole RINO Republicans and assholes would get on board the Trump Train for no other reason than THE FAB!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:20 AM (zp+j1)

331
Hillary stood over the coffins of those people and lied about what caused their deaths. Clinton has plenty to answer for personally.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:15 AM (4ng05)
------------------

She has compounded that by saying she never told the families it was a video. They were all befogged, you see. All confused and griefy.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:20 AM (pC96u)

332 For half the country it wasn't. And for the families of the dead, and those injured it sure wasn't.




So many things need to be said. So many things can't be said.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:20 AM (kWQPe)

333 >>Yet Hillary! denies ever having told the Families about the "video" being responsible....


Did she not tell all of us it was the video in her disgusting speech in front of the caskets?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 11:20 AM (NOIQH)

334 As Gowdy said, General Ham wasn't even informed that there were attacks going on from the compound to the annex. General F*cking Ham.

I guess the CiC was catching some Z's before his trip to Vegas.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (1ZOkK)

335
Did she not tell all of us it was the video in her disgusting speech in front of the caskets?

I thought She did.. Anyone know where We could find the recording of Her saying it?

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (O2RFr)

336 I actually think this is a pretty smart strategy. If Gowdy had come out and said Hillary was responsible then the msm would have just dismissed it as a partisan hit job. By not taking that bait and saying that people should read the report and make their own decision, and that is what they are saying over and over, they are telling people to go around the msm and read the facts for themselves.

If people are waiting for the msm to give Republicans the same treatment they give Democrats don't hold your breath. Have to go around them.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (/tuJf)

337 For me, with respect to Hillary (and for that matter, Obama) it isn't even that they lied about Benghazi. It is about the kind of person who could continue to move forward after having lied, and covered up, and obfuscated about the entire event and then carry on with life pursuing one's own selfish quest for power.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (4ng05)

338 I think the Benghazi report was pretty damning....It was pre-empted by the Dems lie report... The media chooses to believe the Dems.... Big surprise...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:16 AM (O2RFr)


As usual, the Dems and the media (BIRM) were clever enough to get out the first report, thus sucking all the oxygen out of the room and allowing the Republican report to be characterized as a "hit" piece.

If we had an opposition party, they'd have released it last Thursday without announcing it in advance!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (wYnyS)

339 There are orders somewhere that trace the military events of that night, but since the Obama's hand-selected senior military staff seem to be complicit, they'll never be produced.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:18 AM (wYnyS)


Actually.... I doubt it...

The Military needed to be told to go. They would have been invading a UN Member State...

It was a LACK of orders to go that was the problem... which leads back to the White House situation room.... which leads back to the National Security Advisor.

Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (qf6WZ)

340 Did she not tell all of us it was the video in her disgusting speech in front of the caskets?


Sort of. It was very Clintonian. You could parse it in a way to show that that's not what she was saying, even though that's what she was saying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 28, 2016 11:22 AM (1xUj/)

341 Before Trump, Sarah Palin hit the Obama-Hillary left and the establishment the hardest with the largest platform.

And yet people are confused to why we are where we are.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at June 28, 2016 11:22 AM (hNICT)

342 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:18 AM (wYnyS)

That's why Gowdy should have called the first level officer as a witness under oath and asked ' who gave you the order to stand down? ' . Then call that person as a witness and ask the same question and so on and so on. Somebody will have to take the fall. Casper the ghost didn't make the call.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 28, 2016 11:22 AM (nFitA)

343 Also consider that no one knew if it WAS over... or if there would be follow on attacks.

Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:19 AM (qf6WZ)


You don't know an attack is over until the attack IS over!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:23 AM (wYnyS)

344 What a horrible time to be alive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:23 AM (1ZOkK)

345 What a horrible time to be alive.

What a infuriating time to be alive....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:24 AM (O2RFr)

346 Yeah, the MSM can hype "She did nothing wrong" all they want, but the bottom line is that American lives were lost, Americans were wounded, a US ambassador was killed, and American influence in Libya damaged. Hillary owns all of that.

And she and members of the Obama administration lied through their teeth to the American people.

She owns that, too.

Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:24 AM (JBggj)

347 Alternate title for the first one: Hillary's Cooter

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (LWWrf)

348 Now here's something that can bring us all together.

#TrumpGirlsBreakTheInternet

Babes, bikinis, red, white & blue.

SFW. And yes, I am a great American.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zt2cs4m

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (s/EUv)

349 Fox reported this morning that in a test of the VA, 40% of texts to suicide hot-lines were ignored.

It's like this administration hates the military.

Wait till we get a load of a Hell Bitch administration.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (1ZOkK)

350 What a horrible time to be alive.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:23 AM (1ZOkK)


Could be worse

Posted by: Vlad The Impaler Victim at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (zp+j1)

351 AW,
Yeah, that husband must have a death wish. You never mess around with a women about her weight

Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (xVgrA)

352
it all adds to her negative ratings and trust issues. A deciding factor, of course not. But it is a drip drip drip effect. Now will it be enough? Who the fuck knows. It sure would help of the asshole RINO Republicans and assholes would get on board the Trump Train for no other reason than THE FAB!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 28, 2016 11:20 AM (zp+j1)
------------------------

I agree. Talk happens, Trump calls her on it, shouts down a lying reporter, pins it on her in live debate (if she makes it that far), LIVs get it by osmosis -- But isn't Hillary kind of a liar? Yeah.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (pC96u)

353 Symbols?

Crossbows: http://tinyurl.com/BC-Raptor-Reverse-Crossbow

Longbows: http://tinyurl.com/Classic-Longbow

Oh, also, http://tinyurl.com/Anzio-20-mm-Anti-Tank-Rifle

YMMV

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (CS7jF)

354 #86 I think it is called 'semiotics'. Umberto Eco is a professor of semiotics in Italy.

Umberto Eco died in February

Posted by: Starring Miley's Tongue as Charonrsey at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (4p3Tz)

355 Democrats always get some R for bipartisan cover on shit like this.The opposite never seems to happen.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2016 11:26 AM (B48dK)

356 Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:21 AM (qf6WZ)

You mean the UN Member State we'd been bombing the sh!t out of?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:26 AM (wYnyS)

357 Democrats always get some R for bipartisan cover on shit like this.The opposite never seems to happen.
Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2016 11:26 AM (B48dK)

Did I hear our name?

Posted by: Romney, Will INC at June 28, 2016 11:26 AM (zp+j1)

358 Didn't Panetta say he ordered troops to go?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2016 11:27 AM (D24Mk)

359
What a horrible time to be alive.

What a infuriating time to be alive....


You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

360 Yet Hillary! denies ever having told the Families about the "video" being responsible.....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:17 AM (O2RFr)

Yeah, she essentially called the victims' families liars.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:19 AM (1ZOkK)


Hillary! knows she can get away with this lie because it's her word against theirs.

Too bad one of the families didn't have some sort of sound recorder running during the crucial conversation. It would be the blue dress all over again.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:28 AM (mHKcx)

361 David trusted in God.

Hillary trusts in the Media.

Also in age, guile and a bunker full of Vladimir Putin's Uranium Payoffs.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 28, 2016 11:28 AM (Ndje9)

362 From Drudge: Rio police protest lack of toilet paper.

When the Olympics begin, they're gonna
wipe themselves on unsuspecting tourists.

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2016 11:28 AM (DkTED)

363 Also, I note that the DemonRats issued their bogus "Benghazi Report" in a single PDF document a retarded monkey could download and read.

The Imbecilic House Republicans simply put out a link to a page that has links to the 20 different sections/appendices to the report, underneath a couple paragraphs of commentary on key findings.

Hey, Representative Shitty Haircut? Is anyone going to download and read all that shit? People out here have fucking jobs and kids and stuff to do, and don't want to be bothered by spending two hours organizing your SHIT!

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2016 11:28 AM (CS7jF)

364 This all goes back to Nixon. When he didn't arrest Jane Fonda for treason when she returned from manning an Anti Aircraft gun for the North Vietnamese - the left learned that it can do anything without paying a price.

Let me point out that for LT. John Kerry (USNR) talking to the enemy at the Paris peace talks was a capital crime. Let alone the actual treason committed at those talks and confirmed when the Vietnamese Communist government officially awarded him as a "Hero of Communist Victory" in July of 1983.

Posted by: An Observation at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (mqlUz)

365 358
Didn't Panetta say he ordered troops to go?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2016 11:27 AM (D24Mk)


The JEF didn't want "boots on the ground," so the Marines changed in and out of uniform something like four times.

The Narrative. And Panetta can go horse fuck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (1ZOkK)

366 Re chandelier: they're cute until the writhing starts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (GSdpU)

367 302 Why has the Benghazi focus all this time been on Hilary? She was Secretary of State. obamam was the f'ing Commander in Chief when we were attacked & he went off to Vegas. Hilary has been a decoy to shift blame from TFG & we all took the bait.
Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:13 AM (7HtZB)

The focus on Hils was because she was secstate, and this was a consulate. Specifically, a consulate that had asked for more security from SecState, and was denied by SecState. Obama is CiC, and ultimately the buck should stop with him, but because this was part of Hils' responsibility, she should have taken a more forceful lead in providing for the security of HER employees.

Also, it speaks to her ability to be president. If she can't handle a "small" regional crisis like this, how can she handle the big stuff?

Which is also why the MFM is closing ranks and blaming Trump or the republicans for this. Anything to deflect from their chosen candidate.

Posted by: Moki at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (ezHMO)

368
C'mon, Trump, put the Benghazi families in your campaign. Bring 'em on the stage in live debate!

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (pC96u)

369 The Colorado Springs Fine Arts Center had a Chihuly exhibit a few years back. Photos don't do his work justice (that one looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster); very impressive in person. The center ended up buying a large chandelier for permanent display.

As many people know, Frasier (in the SitCom "Frasier") had a Chihuly vase in his apartment.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 28, 2016 11:30 AM (VGRuw)

370 My management at work is Orwellian in it's ability to rewrite history. Yesterday afternoon we had a pretty major fuckup with our server farm that took 90% of our servers offline for 6 hours. Today it's all praise and honors for how well we recovered. I was figuring some asses were going to get fired.

It's like they're a Democratic Administration.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 28, 2016 11:30 AM (evdj2)

371 Our son was at Camp Leatherneck when Panetta paid a visit.

Fortunately, son had just returned from a long convoy and was in his rack asleep, when the Marines were ordered to leave their rifles outside the Panetta presser.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:30 AM (1ZOkK)

372 C'mon, Trump, put the Benghazi families in your campaign. Bring 'em on the stage in live debate!

They're not all against Hillary! I think only 2 Family Members have ever spoken out....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (O2RFr)

373 I agree. Talk happens, Trump calls her on it, shouts down a lying reporter, pins it on her in live debate (if she makes it that far),



And 52% don't give a shit.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (kWQPe)

374 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (1ZOkK)

But boy oh boy do we ever have funds to support Zika, Chagas, TB, and mumps infested hordes of illegal immigrants from the South and invading unvetted muz scum from Syria and the ME.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (wYnyS)

375 Remember the Swift boat thing in 2004? It hurt Kerry's chances so badly that the Dems have turned "Swift-boating" into a verb.

Congressional reports don't mean a whole lot to LIVs. It's just the nature of the DC Beast. Dem congressional reports didn't mean much, either.

But information from credible private citizens providing eye-witness accounts does have impact.

Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (JBggj)

376
This all goes back to Nixon. When he didn't arrest Jane Fonda for treason when she returned from manning an Anti Aircraft gun for the North Vietnamese - the left learned that it can do anything without paying a price.

Let me point out that for LT. John Kerry (USNR) talking to the enemy at the Paris peace talks was a capital crime. Let alone the actual treason committed at those talks and confirmed when the Vietnamese Communist government officially awarded him as a "Hero of Communist Victory" in July of 1983.

Posted by: An Observation at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (mqlUz)

----------------------

George Bush vs the New York Times, another trial for treason that didn't happen.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:32 AM (pC96u)

377 So am I to understand that Alextopia will be filled with balloon animal chthulu sculpture?

Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2016 11:32 AM (vfuap)

378 But information from credible private citizens providing eye-witness accounts does have impact.

Were they ever allowed to speak to any of the survivors?

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RFr)

379 348 Now here's something that can bring us all together.

#TrumpGirlsBreakTheInternet

Babes, bikinis, red, white & blue.

SFW. And yes, I am a great American.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zt2cs4m
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (s/EUv)

Someone posted that no one is going to listen to anything old guys in suits has to say about Benghazi or anything else for that matter. So why not get bikini babes to say it?

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:33 AM (7HtZB)

380 >>C'mon, Trump, put the Benghazi families in your campaign. Bring 'em on the stage in live debate!



Trump quoted Sean Smith's mom in his devastating speech last Wednesday. I'm sure he'll do it again.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 11:33 AM (NOIQH)

381
information from credible private citizens providing eye-witness accounts does have impact.
Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (JBggj)
----------------------

That's why I say these guys need to do a Swiftboat-style campaign. Unfortunately, I think they've been forced to sign NDAs and would be liable for prosecution? But don't quote me on that.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:34 AM (pC96u)

382 Mark Zuckerberg hates that Trump wants to build a wall:

https://tinyurl.com/juylyoj

So this may appear to some people as odd.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:34 AM (4ng05)

383 Finally!


This new Star Trek looks like the producers at Paramount have finally figured out what the last two Star Trek movies were missing...


A Rihanna song!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?

time_continue=103&v=3MBXBMkcUNo

(remove extra spaces)

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2016 11:34 AM (0cMkb)

384
I think only 2 Family Members have ever spoken out....
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (O2RFr)
---------------------

I think all 3 have said Hillary blamed a video, but don't quote me.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:35 AM (pC96u)

385 383 Finally!


This new Star Trek looks like the producers at Paramount have finally figured out what the last two Star Trek movies were missing...


A Rihanna song!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?

time_continue=103&v=3MBXBMkcUNo

(remove extra spaces)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2016 11:34 AM (0cMkb)

You're being awfully generous to call that a "song"

Posted by: josephistan at June 28, 2016 11:35 AM (7HtZB)

386 http://preview.tinyurl.com/zt2cs4m

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 28, 2016 11:25 AM (s/EUv)


So I click on this link, get redirected to the NY Post site which routes me to a page that says "Sorry, we're detecting ad-blocking software, so we're not going to show you any content unless you disable it."

OK, screw 'em, I won't bother with it.

Did they actually think I would disable my ad blocking so they could choke my browser with their crap ads?

Idiots.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:36 AM (mHKcx)

387 I'm sure my memory is faulty, but I remember reading something about a dispute between State and DoD about sending troops. I also remember that scrunt V. Nuland being involved in that. Shortly thereafter Nuland's ass was shipped out of the country.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2016 11:37 AM (D24Mk)

388 On my blog today is a reader rec for a memoir.
Link in nic

Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 11:37 AM (7lVbc)

389 I live in Tacoma (home of the Glass Museum), so I'm pretty Chihuly'd out.

The Glass Museum's fairly spiffy, though. You can sit and watch glass-blowers make groovy stuff for hours and hours.

Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2016 11:37 AM (sgF59)

390 I'd hit that! And I bet she gives great shnarf!

Posted by: alien from the plaent Catoyhohaohg at June 28, 2016 11:38 AM (A/+my)

391 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:29 AM (1ZOkK)

I think that is an interesting command. It seems to me by being told to be on the ground in an offensive action while not wearing uniforms put the Marines in violation of their Geneva Convention rights by making them illegal combatants, effectively spies that could be shot on sight!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:38 AM (wYnyS)

392 Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:36 AM (mHKcx)

Everything is mandatory.

Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 11:38 AM (7lVbc)

393 383 Finally!


This new Star Trek looks like the producers at Paramount have finally figured out what the last two Star Trek movies were missing...


A Rihanna song!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?

time_continue=103&v=3MBXBMkcUNo

(remove extra spaces)


Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2016 11:34 AM (0cMkb)


Well... they already tried the Capt. Kirk is a woman thing in one of the series...

Oh.... wait... next up... Kirk goes Trans? Capt. Jenny T. Kirk?

Posted by: Don Q. at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (qf6WZ)

394 Speaking of adblockers - is the safari adblock extension good?

Posted by: votermom at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (7lVbc)

395 Bring me a small lyre!


==========


You can have that Lovitz guy, I'm done with him.

Posted by: Morgan Fairchild at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (lHb9q)

396 #379 Someone posted that no one is going to listen to anything old guys in suits has to say about Benghazi or anything else for that matter. So why not get bikini babes to say it?

The brunette in the Daisy Dukes, white T-shirt and black and orange MAGA cap is just heartbreakingly beautiful.

I mean, they're all gorgeous but she is really something. Oh to be 20-ish again!


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (s/EUv)

397 To be fair, the CDC's job is researching gun violence and gender pronouns because those are the most deadly DISEASES of our lifetimes! / snark/

Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (xVgrA)

398 The Glass Museum's fairly spiffy, though. You can sit and watch glass-blowers make groovy stuff for hours and hours.

Posted by: RKae at June 28, 2016 11:37 AM (sgF59)


It is an elegant art/skill and fascinating to watch!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:39 AM (wYnyS)

399 I'm going to be hard-pressed not to key the next car I see with an "I'm Ready For Hillary!" sticker.

Fortunately, I haven't seen many at all. I've seen more Bernie stickers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (1ZOkK)

400 As often as not the keys that that St Peter holds in medieval art are not door keys but rather a dove tail lewis.

http://tinyurl.com/hhkhcfh

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 28, 2016 10:08 AM (zwQ7i)


Interesting. Thanks for linking it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (GSdpU)

401 375 Remember the Swift boat thing in 2004? It hurt Kerry's chances so badly that the Dems have turned "Swift-boating" into a verb.

Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (JBggj)


Yes, and you know why this worked? Because the Swift Boat vets organized, volunteered, worked day and night to get their message out. The knew the MSM would not have their backs, but would rush to defend Kerry. But they kept at it.

A similar organization has to be formed that will be relentless in its search to expose the truth of Benghazi, and whoever is part of it will need to be prepared to be attacked, smeared, lied about, etc. by the Democrat/MSM combine.

Otherwise, it will all just fade away.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (mHKcx)

402 hitlery will be coronated president. fake injun will be co-president. get used to it. this country is so dumbed down you can't expect anything else. another historic first. trump is really not serious about this. i'm not really giving a fuck. thank god i'm getting too old to care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 28, 2016 11:41 AM (ucDmr)

403 Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:36 AM (mHKcx)

I'm getting that a lot and usually decide it isn't worth looking at anyhow. I have found that the EPIC browser usually loads, displays, and plays anything.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:42 AM (wYnyS)

404 KT McFarland on Fox saying that even while men were still fighting and dying, Hillary! was busy spinning the attack.

KT flat-out called her a liar. And she's talking about how Hillary lied over the flag-draped coffins.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:42 AM (1ZOkK)

405
So I click on this link, get redirected to the NY Post site which routes me to a page that says "Sorry, we're detecting ad-blocking software, so we're not going to show you any content unless you disable it."
Posted by: OregonMuse




Add the "Adblock Warning Removal List" to your filter subscriptions.

That kills most, but not all of those. You may have to add a custom filter to kill some of the more tenacious ones.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2016 11:44 AM (kdS6q)

406 Yes, and you know why this worked? Because the Swift Boat vets organized, volunteered, worked day and night to get their message out. The knew the MSM would not have their backs, but would rush to defend Kerry. But they kept at it.

A similar organization has to be formed that will be relentless in its search to expose the truth of Benghazi, and whoever is part of it will need to be prepared to be attacked, smeared, lied about, etc. by the Democrat/MSM combine.

Otherwise, it will all just fade away.


Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (mHKcx)



It's been said eloquently elsewhere (i.e. the DoI, for example), so I'm not going to repeat it here. Just that, we're in for a fight. Or we can lay down. Those are the options. There is no third way.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:44 AM (TOk1P)

407 *cackle cackle*

Oh that ambassador what's-his-name! Always joking about needing extra security! What a kidder!

*cackle cackle cackle*

Posted by: Hillary! at June 28, 2016 11:44 AM (0mRoj)

408 Hillary will be the next president, for no other reason than she is rumored to own a vagina.

Posted by: navybrat at June 28, 2016 11:44 AM (mrxD3)

409 Otherwise, it will all just fade away.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (mHKcx)


If only we had an opposition party and an impartial IRS...

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (wYnyS)

410 The fact that the compound was denied extra weaponry and sand bags because of the "visual" is gobsmacking.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (1ZOkK)

411 I may be late to the game, but lilies usually represent virginity, be it female or male.....

Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (Srfki)

412
Okay, Drudge is all het up with his flashing light because a hacker raided the Clinton staff email. I kind of thought that already happened (DNC), but whatevs.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (pC96u)

413 Okay, Drudge is all het up with his flashing light because a hacker raided the Clinton staff email. I kind of thought that already happened (DNC), but whatevs.
Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (pC96u)

Doesn't sound like a big deal to Me...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:46 AM (O2RFr)

414 Drudge now has a link http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/hfa-gmail-attack-723571

Posted by: Number 14 at June 28, 2016 11:47 AM (S7kiA)

415 Otherwise, it will all just fade away.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 28, 2016 11:40 AM (mHKcx)

If only we had an opposition party and an impartial IRS...

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (wYnyS)



Which we don't. So now what?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:48 AM (TOk1P)

416 If only we had an opposition party and an impartial IRS...

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (wYnyS)



Which we don't. So now what?

Hello President Hillary!

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:49 AM (O2RFr)

417 i'm looking forward to hitlery running the show. this shitshow they call an economy will come crashing down in spectactular fashion. it will be epic. let this devil worshipping skank own it. adios america.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 28, 2016 11:49 AM (ucDmr)

418 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 28, 2016 11:49 AM (GwIKd)

419 I'm tired of your insolence, Mr Sulu! Into the Agony Booth, bitch!

Posted by: Capt. Jenny T. Kirk at June 28, 2016 11:50 AM (A/+my)

420 So I see Lieawatha is on the war path against Trump...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (O2RFr)

421 If only we had an opposition party and an impartial IRS...

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 11:45 AM (wYnyS)

Which we don't. So now what?
------------------------------
Hello President Hillary!

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:49 AM (O2RFr)



Ok, and then?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (TOk1P)

422
Ok, and then?





I really wish I knew...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:52 AM (O2RFr)

423 Keys St. Peter
Lilies - St. Anthony of Padua, but the Angel Gabriel holds them in many paintings of the Annunciation, since it signifies purity.
Lances - St. George (fighting the dragon, presumably)
Axes -- hm. I'm betting St. Peter Martyr, who got clocked in the head with one by a disgruntled monk...

Posted by: vivi at June 28, 2016 11:52 AM (11H2y)

424 I really wish I didnt' know.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 11:52 AM (6YfIs)

425 And 52% don't give a shit.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 11:31 AM (kWQPe)




And that's the biggest problem the country has. The ever growing idiot population. Democrats = good, Republicans = h8ers!!!! In their simple minds that's all they know

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 11:53 AM (493sH)

426
Drudge now has a link http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/hfa-gmail-attack-723571
Posted by: Number 14 at June 28, 2016 11:47 AM (S7kiA)
-------------------

Pretty meh.

>>The breach of Hamilton's Gmail account provided hackers with a glimpse at the inner workings of a massive presidential campaign--from schedules and talking points to briefing books and assorted logistics. But the records are absent the kind of intel for which hackers were probably searching, like policy discussions and confidential deliberations.


The greatest value from the story is to reinforce the message that Hillary can't do cybersecurity.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:53 AM (pC96u)

427 Hillary and Lizzy - The Go Go Gophers

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:53 AM (IqV8l)

428
The breach of Hamilton's Gmail account

They'll have to make a musical about it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:54 AM (IqV8l)

429 IF we had an opposition party...
...they's pay to bring the Bengazi families to stand outside of every. single. Hillary. event.

Posted by: vivi at June 28, 2016 11:54 AM (11H2y)

430 Hillary and Lizzy - The Go Go Gophers


The AARP Harpies.....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:54 AM (O2RFr)

431
So I see Lieawatha is on the war path against Trump...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (O2RFr)
---------------------

Lieawatha won't be veep, but Hillary will keep her around to call Trump names. She's good at that.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (pC96u)

432 the free shit army will be out of cash when the shit hits the fan. nobody can steal from people who have nothing. no job, no income, no taxes. after they take your assetts, then what? good luck to the queen.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (ucDmr)

433 WZ has a story regarding ISIS throwing 4 gay guys off a roof and tweeting pictures with the hashtag, #LoveWins. They are just trolling Obama now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (/tuJf)

434 Lieawatha won't be veep, but Hillary will keep her around to call Trump names. She's good at that.

What exactly has She ever done other than that?

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (O2RFr)

435 Gruntled monks don't do that kinda thing.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2016 11:56 AM (A/+my)

436 So I see Lieawatha is on the war path against Trump...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (O2RFr)





Him speak with forked tongue. Me travel many moons to get the Beast elected to be big chief in White Teepee

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 11:56 AM (493sH)

437 Him speak with forked tongue. Me travel many moons to get the Beast elected to be big chief in White Teepee

Ugh....

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:57 AM (O2RFr)

438 >>WZ has a story regarding ISIS throwing 4 gay guys off a roof and
tweeting pictures with the hashtag, #LoveWins. They are just trolling
Obama now.


They did that on the day of the SCOTUS ruling last summer - even tweeted video.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 11:57 AM (NOIQH)

439
Lieawatha won't be veep, but Hillary will keep her around to call Trump names. She's good at that.

What exactly has She ever done other than that?
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (O2RFr)
--------------------

Nothing, as Trump has pointed out.

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 11:57 AM (pC96u)

440 The breach of Hamilton's Gmail account

They'll have to make a musical about it.

And it will feature black servers.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2016 11:57 AM (A/+my)

441
WZ has a story regarding ISIS throwing 4 gay guys off a roof and tweeting pictures with the hashtag, #LoveWins. They are just trolling Obama now.
Posted by: JackStraw


Must be some of those Republican hatemongers!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2016 11:58 AM (IqV8l)

442 CNN's credibility started to seriously wane during Bill Clinton's presidency when they couldn't pry their head out of his ass:

https://tinyurl.com/h59ymk9

Well today... This is CNN.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 28, 2016 11:58 AM (4ng05)

443 WZ has a story regarding ISIS throwing 4 gay guys off a roof and tweeting pictures with the hashtag, #LoveWins. They are just trolling Obama now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2016 11:55 AM (/tuJf)




Barry needs to outlaw roofs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 12:00 PM (493sH)

444 Ok, and then?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (TOk1P)


I know you are actually asking a very serious and fundamental question, and I wish I had a decent responsible answer. Between the corrupt media, the graft sucking politicians, the lazy legislators, the hordes of unassimilable imported rent a voters, a growing crop of residents entitled to vote that don't want responsibility, a politicized IRS and DoJ, and the lure of EBT+EITC+FS to welfare sponges, I don't see a benign way out of this.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 12:00 PM (wYnyS)

445
The fact that the compound was denied extra weaponry and sand bags because of the "visual" is gobsmacking.



Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)

446 They did that on the day of the SCOTUS ruling last summer - even tweeted video.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 11:57 AM (NOIQH)




I'm guessing that twitter didn't have an issue with that because Islamophobia. Those conservatives on the other hand..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 12:02 PM (493sH)

447 The "chandelier" is something Man Was Not Meant to Know.

Posted by: Neal5x5 at June 28, 2016 12:03 PM (ZPl8L)

448 They think the Russians are the hackers... Why doesn't Putin release some of the e-mails we know Hillary tried to "wipe" off? I'm guessing because he would prefer a Hillary Presidency to a Trump...

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 12:04 PM (O2RFr)

449 I'm guessing that twitter didn't have an issue with that because Islamophobia. Those conservatives on the other hand..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 12:02 PM (493sH)


Twitter and Facebook go to great lengths to be culturally sensitive


especially to cultures that would kill them in an instant given the opportunity!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 12:05 PM (wYnyS)

450 If Hillary is elected I just avoid the media and news outlets even more than I do now.

And keep my chin up and stay positive with stubborn cheer.

Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2016 12:05 PM (QCc6B)

451 And keep my chin up and stay positive with stubborn cheer.
Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2016 12:05 PM (QCc6B)

And a lot of beer!

Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 12:06 PM (O2RFr)

452 Steve Kerr (head coach of the Golden State Warriors) wants more gun control. You would think he wouldn't fall for this stupidity considering his father's death at the hands of Islamists. I'm glad now his team lost.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/06/27/warriors-head-coach-argues-outdated-bill-rights/

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 28, 2016 12:06 PM (BDZWU)

453 >>I'm guessing that twitter didn't have an issue with that because Islamophobia. Those conservatives on the other hand..


Yep, ISIS account still active --- one year later.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nwz9ylm

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2016 12:06 PM (NOIQH)

454 Ok, and then?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (TOk1P)

I know you are actually asking a very serious and fundamental question, and I wish I had a decent responsible answer. Between the corrupt media, the graft sucking politicians, the lazy legislators, the hordes of unassimilable imported rent a voters, a growing crop of residents entitled to vote that don't want responsibility, a politicized IRS and DoJ, and the lure of EBT+EITC+FS to welfare sponges, I don't see a benign way out of this.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 12:00 PM (wYnyS)



Neither do I. Which is why I am having to mentally prepare myself for the fight to come.


One thing I am literally having to do is ask myself: What am I prepared to sacrifice, if I have to?


There are many things I would like to protect, so this is something of an inventory. What can I lose, what will I give up, if it comes to that?


One of those things I am struggling with is whether and when to START the fight, rather than react to events.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 12:07 PM (TOk1P)

455 >> Steve Kerr (head coach of the Golden State Warriors) wants more gun control. You would think he wouldn't fall for this stupidity considering his father's death at the hands of Islamists.


Steve was a neighbor of mine in Tucson. He was a really nice guy.

Apparently, though, he's an idiot.

Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 12:08 PM (9JISm)

456
They think the Russians are the hackers... Why doesn't Putin release some of the e-mails we know Hillary tried to "wipe" off? I'm guessing because he would prefer a Hillary Presidency to a Trump...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 12:04 PM (O2RFr)
---------------------

I've been trying to figure out that game.

Everyone knows that everyone has her emails; no one has an advantage.

So are Russia, China, and Iran planning to divvy up America like Winston Churchill drawing up the modern Middle East on the back of a napkin?

Israel needs to release what they have. What are they waiting for?

Posted by: iforgot at June 28, 2016 12:08 PM (pC96u)

457 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)



Browning 50 cals?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 12:09 PM (TOk1P)

458 >>>Oh.... wait... next up... Kirk goes Trans? Capt. Jenny T. Kirk?


Posted by: Don Q.<<<

Our goal on this away mission is to not violate the prime directive and to look fabulous doing it. Set phasers to stunning.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2016 12:10 PM (2Mnv1)

459 >>WZ has a story regarding ISIS throwing 4 gay guys off a roof and tweeting pictures with the hashtag, #LoveWins. They are just trolling Obama now.



Ever notice that they never throw lesbians off of rooftops?

Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2016 12:10 PM (9JISm)

460
Browning 50 cals?


Sure if you're into the old timey look,it is classic

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:11 PM (lKyWE)

461 Word is that Benghazi was cover for a Black ops operation to buy Libyan arms that got funneled to the rebels in Syria who became ISIS. This has been reported on in British papers but ignored by US MSM.

If this isn't true, then what were doing in Benghazi in the first place. It wasn't our main embassy, and others like the Brits had gotten out of Dodge because of security concerns. So we were doing something there. What?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 28, 2016 12:12 PM (r1fLd)

462 Somebody earlier commented on how entertaining question period in the British House of Commons is (can't find it again).

Margaret Thatcher would have made Obama run home to Michelle in tears.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 28, 2016 12:12 PM (s7hQ/)

463 Liawatha is also very good at beclowning herself in front of banking folks, donna.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 12:13 PM (F26eZ)

464 Barry needs to outlaw roofs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2016 12:00 PM


Racist!

Posted by: Roof Koreans at June 28, 2016 12:14 PM (bzd8I)

465 Grammie Winger, I wanted to respond to a comment you made in the news dump thread.

Your description of the Christian faith was very well done.

In response to something you alluded to I am also troubled* about something you alluded to.
I suspect the day is coming when Chinese Christians will be praying for the persecuted church in the West.

*Actually I'm not troubled because I've been told to not let my heart be troubled.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 28, 2016 12:15 PM (s7hQ/)

466 Word is that Benghazi was cover for a Black ops operation to buy Libyan arms that got funneled to the rebels in Syria who became ISIS. This has been reported on in British papers but ignored by US MSM.

If this isn't true, then what were doing in Benghazi in the first place. It wasn't our main embassy, and others like the Brits had gotten out of Dodge because of security concerns. So we were doing something there. What?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 28, 2016 12:12 PM (r1fLd)



One of the idiots here at work was talking about the movie recently. She asked if anyone else saw it, and I said no, I didn't, because I was pretty sure I had all the information they were willing to release already, and so there was nothing a fictional drama was going to reveal.


I had to explain to this person, who SAW the freakin' movie, that no, Benghazi was NOT the embassy.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 12:15 PM (TOk1P)

467 If Hillary is elected I just avoid the media and news outlets even more than I do now.



And keep my chin up and stay positive with stubborn cheer.


That and keep to yourself when she sends the elderly to her "Fun Camps". Plus toss your guns in the required police piles when instructed to do so. Sounds like a good plan.

Posted by: An Observation at June 28, 2016 12:15 PM (mqlUz)

468 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)



Browning 50 cals?
Posted by: BurtTC




Bofors.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 12:17 PM (kWQPe)

469 So I see Lieawatha is on the war path against Trump...



Posted by: donna at June 28, 2016 11:51 AM (O2RFr)




Sniff. Sniff. Smell that? That's desperation.


Just like Hillary's "reintroduction" to the voters. Nothing says "my campaign is going fine, just fine" like "reintroducing" yourself and bringing in help with whom you share the stage as an equal.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 12:17 PM (oKE6c)

470 That and keep to yourself when she sends the elderly to her "Fun Camps". Plus toss your guns in the required police piles when instructed to do so. Sounds like a good plan.

Posted by: An Observation at June 28, 2016 12:15 PM (mqlUz)


So the question is, when housing Syrian "refugees," am I required to give them the master bedroom, or one of the smaller ones?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 12:18 PM (TOk1P)

471 Sounds like a good plan.

Posted by: An Observation at June 28, 2016 12:15 PM (mqlUz)


Besides, the buses to the camps will be air-conditioned for your riding comfort>

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2016 12:18 PM (wYnyS)

472 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)

Browning 50 cals?
Posted by: BurtTC

Bofors.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 12:17 PM (kWQPe)


I'm an infantry guy, those bigger guns just confuse me, and piss me off when they rattle the ground/buildings when I'm trying to sleep.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2016 12:21 PM (TOk1P)

473 Just how big a pile would all the privately half firearms in America make?

Bet that would be a good infographic for the gun-grabbers.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 12:23 PM (F26eZ)

474 Held, not half. Jeez.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 12:24 PM (F26eZ)

475 Just how big a pile would all the privately half firearms in America make?

Bet that would be a good infographic for the gun-grabbers.




220 million guns and 12 trillion rounds of ammo.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 12:26 PM (kWQPe)

476 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)



Browning 50 cals?

Posted by: BurtTC
****

Quad .50s

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 28, 2016 12:34 PM (8marX)

477 "220 million guns and 12 trillion rounds of ammo."

...carry the one, and... Hey, I'm short about 50K rounds!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 28, 2016 12:36 PM (VGRuw)

478 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?



Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM (lKyWE)



A whole bunch of bullet-riddled Muslim terrorists arrayed around it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2016 12:38 PM (oKE6c)

479
Just how big a pile would all the privately half firearms in America make?

Bet that would be a good infographic for the gun-grabbers.


Posted by: Chupacabra at June 28, 2016 12:23 PM (F26eZ)

There was some pic in the media of the piles of guns taken in the Australian roundup....impressive piles if you can find the pic.

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2016 12:46 PM (HQP2c)

480 I had nothing to do with this.

Posted by: John Kerry at June 28, 2016 01:44 PM (Cd+Fa)

481 Really, what could be more aestheticllypleasing than an M-249 sitting atop a sandbagged position?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2016 12:01 PM

Browning 50 cals?
Posted by: BurtTC

Bofors.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 28, 2016 12:17 PM

Vulcans.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2016 02:11 PM (xx+WQ)

482 Such a lovely cthulhulier.

Posted by: Lance at June 28, 2016 04:22 PM (FOCvU)

483 There are a bunch of chihuli's at the St. Louis Botanical Gardens, the most impressive of which is in this link:

https://photos.smugmug.com/AllAboutStLouis/Random-Elements/i-tGfn6X9/0/L/032812_5920_HDR-L.jpg

Posted by: Blooshier at June 28, 2016 05:24 PM (o3U8H)

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