Overnight Open Thread (6-16-2016)

Quote of the Day I - Worst Underreporting in History Apparently Edition

A Washington Post review of federal campus safety data for more than 2,200 colleges that offer bachelor's or advanced degrees found that more than 1,300 of the schools had no reports of rape on campus in 2014, the most recent year for which data is available.

Quote of the Day II

"The inability of most people to pass an Ideological Turing Test saddens me. My daily internet meanderings take me to an eclectic variety of sites. The one unifying factor among them is that most of the people in the comments section make no attempt whatsoever to understand their opponents on whatever the issue at hand may be.

90% of illumination on the internet is provided by burning straw men."

Quote of the Day III

What the f*ck is hate speech, exactly? Like another phony, malleable concept - obscenity - it is simply a political category that gives power to the powerful to pick and choose what lesser mortals are allowed to read, think, and discuss (in the US, obscenity law did keep Lady Chatterley's Lover from being published for decades, so it did have that going for it). Beyond that, hate - like envy - is the planet's greatest renewable energy source, motivating humans to live better, richer, freer lives (my grandparents didn't leave Europe in the 1910s because they loved it). In the US, libel, which by definition is false, is already punishable by law. So are 'fighting words', and plots and actions to cause physical harm. Beyond that, let speech rip like Lear howling on the heath.

-- Nick Gillespie, editor of Reason

Freddie Gray: Prosecution's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Trial

Hoo boy. There are bad days in court and then there's Freddie Gray case prosecutor-days in court. Their "rough ride" 'expert' witness was destroyed during cross-examination and prosecutors were reduced to blaming detectives and society for the shambling mess they presented.

Here is the prosecution's 'rough ride' 'expert', Neill Franklin, being cross-examined:

gray1RR011

gray2RR012

Everyone is now dumber for having had to listen to their dumpster fire of a case. May God have mercy on their souls.

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Former Navy Seal Dom Raso Explains Why the AR-15 is the Average American's Best Tool to Defend Against Terrorism

And why it is exactly what the founding fathers had in mind when they drafted the Second Amendment. Plus the hypocrisy of Hillary and others who decry the AR-15 as a weapon of war useful only for murder yet have lived for decades in a secure bubble surrounded by men with....AR-15s.

Obama at Orlando Memorial Site: When Will These Gun Rights Supporters Stop Choosing to Let Terrorism Happen?

"Those who defend the easy accessibility of assault weapons, should meet these families and explain why that makes sense..Why is it they think our liberty requires these repeated tragedies? That's not the meaning of liberty."

Allahpundit wonders if he's going to finally let the mask drop.

I keep hoping against hope that he's finally going to go full YOLO, drop the pretense that it's "assault weapons" he's specially interested in, and call outright for full confiscation of guns. That's what he and the left want, palpably; he has seven months left as president so he'll pay no price politically for doing it (although Hillary will). He's reduced here to arguing, with no obvious basis in fact, that the children of Sandy Hook would be alive and in fifth grade now if only the degenerate who murdered them hadn't had an assault weapon. If he'd used a pair of semiautomatic pistols instead, they would have survived? Of course not, but the "assault weapons" preoccupation is and has always been just a way to get a foot in the door culturally en route to banning all semiautomatics. I'd say there's a nonzero chance once the election's over that Obama will come clean about his heart's fondest desire in that regard.

The Rich Aren't Paying Their Fair Share - They're Paying Everyone's Share

The top 20% of taxpayers by income are basically financing the government for everyone else. And that's not good for a number of reasons.

Averaged across all three lower-income quintiles, we could say that the lowest 60% of American households by income received average transfer payments of nearly $10,000 in 2013 ($9,600 to be exact). And because the government has no money of its own, where did those transfer payments come from to finance the "net recipient households"? Where else, but from the top two income quintiles, and realistically almost exclusively from Americans in the highest income quintile.

...The second-highest income quintile households are minor "net payer households" (contributing 4% on per average household to the average net positive payments of the top two income quintiles, i.e. $2,600 / $2,600 + $57,700), but it's really the top 20% of "net payer households" that are financing 96% of the transfer payments ($57,700 / $60,300) to the entire bottom 60% AND financing most of the non-borrowed operations of the entire federal government.

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Always Wrong and Always Terrible: Why You May Want to Just Give Up on Parenting in the Internet Age

Is That Coke Worth Your Life?

Memphis man says yes.

Hard Times For Judge Who Sued a Dry-Cleaner for $65M Over Missing Pants

Back in 2005 DC administrative judge Roy Pearson dropped off a pair of pants at a local dry cleaners. Then something happened to the pants that led to a perpetual, insane legal vendetta on his part.

This was a titanic struggle between Roy L. Pearson, Jr., then an administrative-law judge in the District of Columbia, and his neighborhood dry-cleaning establishment. Pearson claimed Custom Cleaners lost a pair of his suit pants. Here they are, the cleaners said. Those aren't mine, he said. It escalated. The cleaners offered to settle, but Pearson could not be satisfied. He refused settlement offers of $1,150, then $3,000, then $12,000 (for lost pants, remember). He eventually sued, alleging multiple violations of a consumer-protection statute; saying he was entitled to $1,500 per violation per defendant per day, he demanded $65,462,500. See "Lawyer Seeking $65 Million for Pants-Related Fraud" (Apr. 27, 2007); see also here for more on his math.

Later Pearson filed a brief changing the focus of his claim from the pants to allegedly misleading signs ("Satisfaction Guaranteed"), but he refused to dismiss the case.

He lost that case, lost the appeal, lost his job, lost his lawsuit over losing his job, lost various other related lawsuits and appeals, and now 11 years later after destroying the dry cleaner's lives and his own he's now facing legal ethics charges.

In 2015, the DCs Office of Disciplinary Counsel filed charges alleging Pearson's professional conduct, and now, the Board of Professional Responsibility has found him guilty on two charges.

No doubt he will appeal. And sue some more.

pearsonlawsuit

Scientists Discover Why Your Dirty Laundry Stinks

WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer

Billy Squier Attempts to Explain Away the Swishy Awfulness of his 'Rock Me Tonight' Video

A YouTube commenter gives you the short version:

He blames the director for the look of the set with all the pinks and satin sheets, but it's really Billy's prancing and girly dance moves that the most offensive. The set wasnt great, but if he wasn't doing all those dance moves, it wouldn't have been that bad.?

As God is his witness Squier really thought he could dance sexy.

An Unseen World

Here a biologist setup an automatic camera at a random waterhole deep in the Brazilian rain forest where humans rarely go. Over a four week period he was astounded at the sheer number of species visiting the hole - pumas, jaguars, ocelots, various monkey species, giant armadillos and giant anteaters.

Yahoo group. That is all.

Come on be a smartie and join the yahoo grope party!

And my lo-fi Twitter spew.

Tonight's post brought to you by the Killhouse Rules:

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Note that these rules also apply to emergency and disaster situations.

Notice: Posted by the assumed permission of AceCorp LLC. Please e-mail hot tips and tasteful nudes to the blind ewok. Mannequins are for display only. Taunt happy-fun ball at own risk.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:25 PM




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1 Uh huh

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 16, 2016 11:26 PM (IqV8l)

2 Aloha!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:26 PM (EzgxV)

3 Top ten baby!!

Posted by: Blano at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (heN73)

4 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (T/cxb)

5 Thanks, Maet.

Now off to read.

Posted by: Ray, just Ray at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (LKFFy)

6 ONT time -- not quite as good as a regular tee time, but close.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2016 11:28 PM (gyKtp)

7
O-N-T
Links collected by our own Maet-y
Below, the comments, where strange things you'll see,
Unless you're Ace, with eyes itchy

Posted by: McCartney first draft at June 16, 2016 11:28 PM (/FHjB)

8 O-o-o-o
N-n-n-n
T-t-t-t!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:28 PM (rJUlF)

9 Zeppelin sued for plagiarizing Stairway.

Posted by: Jimmy Page at June 16, 2016 11:29 PM (ZR1fB)

10 Good to see the ONT arrive.

Greetings, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:29 PM (v5iqM)

11 Rationing Healthcare, Misunderstanding Healthcare, Privatizing Healthcare?

The focus this time: Some People Support Free-Market Solutions; Some People Are Idiots.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11874

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 16, 2016 11:29 PM (vBeA5)

12 Braid Hair? Go to Jail!

Draconian "occupational licensing" has long ago gone beyond licensing occupations where there is a serious threat to life and limb. Such licensing now serves as a barrier to entry into an industry and a way to limit demand and so artificially keep prices up.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11753

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 16, 2016 11:30 PM (vBeA5)

13 Cool.

Read the content, and still in the 10.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:30 PM (v5iqM)

14 When I saw that Billy Squier video on TBS's "Night Tracks" (No MTV in my town then), my first thought was "What the HELL?...."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:30 PM (rJUlF)

15 Hello.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 11:31 PM (e859L)

16 Killhouse rules are rules to live by. Word.

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2016 11:33 PM (zLDYs)

17 https://twitter.com/dangainor/status/743597741931126784
so creepy

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 16, 2016 11:34 PM (0O7c5)

18 USA to the Semifinal in Copa America!!!

God Bless The United States of America.

I broke out my Red, White and Blue Mason jar for tonights game.... ha, glad it paid off.

Evenin Horde Oh Plenty.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:34 PM (YIivD)

19 Stumbling around youtube back in the day when I could do that, I found a video of people going through a shooting house. One was a young female police recruit, the other was something of an operator.

It was interesting to watch the more experienced operator. It was a slow and quiet approach. After the first shot, I would think he would pick up the pace, but he didn't.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 16, 2016 11:35 PM (e7FCa)

20 so creepy

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 16, 2016 11:34 PM (0O7c5)

--
Even those who say they believe in nothing usually do believe in something.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:35 PM (rJUlF)

21 Nice ONT Maet....

@Nero got banned again for pointing out the threats he gets....

I am being block swarmed for pointing out an undeniable truth from this week...

A registered democrat Muslim FBI twice cleared DHS Contractor shot 103 people.

You point that out to an LGBT zombie or a gunsenseless type they implode then block you.....sometimes 5 at a time.

I'll be banned soon, I won't go back.

If America ends the presumption of innocence due process by GOP hands this week I quit.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2016 11:36 PM (g8Hfr)

22 I've read about that lawyer vs dry-cleaner story before, but it never occurred to me that he was black. I always pictured a skinny white nerd lawyer. I must be racist.

Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:36 PM (7lVbc)

23 Read teh content - hah!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 16, 2016 11:36 PM (kP16F)

24 Who says my ditty laundry stinks???

Posted by: Duntzman at June 16, 2016 11:37 PM (08Znv)

25 #25

!!

Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 11:37 PM (N+e/e)

26 Gosh, I would have to think that the western Brazilian jungle would be full of various wildfire. Few people or modern hunting.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 11:38 PM (e859L)

27 So awesome that the Killhouse Rules are written on a dress shirt cardboard from a ... dry cleaners.

Posted by: scoville at June 16, 2016 11:38 PM (0adl+)

28 BArack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm.

http://tinyurl.com/pezlqke

Posted by: huerfano at June 16, 2016 11:39 PM (jkkMG)

29 Oooh... ocelots.

**pours drink**

Posted by: Sterling Archer at June 16, 2016 11:39 PM (H9MG5)

30
Quote of the Day III
Nick Gillespie, editor of Reason




AKA Alyssa Milano

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 11:40 PM (kdS6q)

31 Former Navy Seal Dom Raso Explains Why the AR-15 is the Average American's Best Tool to Defend Against Terrorism
And why it is exactly what the founding fathers had in mind when they drafted the Second Amendment.


Not according to Whoopie Goldberg, who apparently didn't notice the word "militia" in the second amendment.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 16, 2016 11:41 PM (+lVUW)

32 Scientists Discover Why Your Dirty Laundry Stinks
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Yeah, but old people smell better than young people:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gwomv6w

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 11:41 PM (mxCgt)

33 AR 15? Imma going to stick with my Lee-Enfield #5MkI, thank you very much. Makes bigger holes, and damn near as fast, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:41 PM (GSdpU)

34 "Plus the hypocrisy of Hillary and others who decry the AR-15 as a weapon of war useful only for murder yet have lived for decades in a secure bubble surrounded by men with....AR-15s."

I'm sure a significant number of her security detail carry fully automatic weapons, either on their person or in their vehicles, which we arent permitted to purchase, in violation of the 2d Amendment. So fuck her sideways with a barbed-wire-wrapped flaming pineapple.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:42 PM (0mRoj)

35 Billy Squier should have had an ocelot prancing around and dancing in his video.

Or at least he could've used Ray. Would have been 1000% less gay.

**drinks**

Posted by: Sterling Archer at June 16, 2016 11:42 PM (H9MG5)

36
Roy Pearson lost that case, lost the appeal, lost his job, lost his lawsuit over losing his job, lost various other related lawsuits and appeals, and now 11 years later after destroying the dry cleaner's lives and his own he's now facing legal ethics charges.




In a related story, the Republican controlled Senate has just confirmed Pearson as a 9th Circuit Associate Justice.

By voice vote....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (kdS6q)

37 "A registered democrat Muslim FBI twice cleared DHS Contractor shot 103 people."

Awfully cruel of you to hit them with such a big cluebat. Makes it a little harder to deny reality when you do stuff like that (heh).

Have a good night folks. I am out. Watch out for the gators.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (hVdx9)

38 Nature Boy almost became a natural buffet. All that machete would have done is piss the cat off.

Some beautiful images and animals though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (gyKtp)

39 That story about the judge should be a cautionary tale for everyone thinking that lawyers won't abuse the law because some judge will drop the hammer on them.

Rule #1 of the legal union is that they will protect their own. Always.

Rule #2 is that lawyers almost never get in real trouble for "ethics" violations. Those end up being slaps on the wrist. Maybe.

Rule #3 is that lawyers will only really get in trouble for screwing around with Escrow accounts. The lawyer could embezzle all they want from the firms operating account, but the second they get clients money, they better turn their license in real quick.

I, to this day, maintain that Michelle Obama got caught dipping into client's escrow account funds and that is why she "gave up" her law license. No one gives up their license voluntarily unless there is an issue. That and her hospital "job" she got when Bammer was elected to the senate show that there was a way to have her pay back those funds most quietly.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (1JnAL)

40 Howdy ONT!

And Goodnight ONT!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (yxupc)

41 "Those who defend the easy accessibility of assault weapons, should meet these families and explain why that makes sense..Why is it they think our liberty requires these repeated tragedies? That's not the meaning of liberty."


Another sideways pineapple fucking. You're the cocksucker who's importing by the thousands the goat-fucking Mohammedans who want to kill us, you treasonous motherfucker.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:44 PM (0mRoj)

42 Everything that's old is new again.
purr rump bump

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 16, 2016 11:45 PM (7vDS5)

43 Not according to Whoopie Goldberg, who apparently didn't notice the word "militia" in the second amendment.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 16, 2016 11:41 PM (+lVUW)


They don't know what militia even means. They buy the lie that the National Guard is a militia, not a military service branch. They don't know the difference and they don't want to know. They want to make their ignorance and assumptions the definitions that everybody lives by.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 16, 2016 11:45 PM (J+mig)

44 19 Stumbling around youtube back in the day when I could do that, I found a video of people going through a shooting house. One was a young female police recruit, the other was something of an operator.

It was interesting to watch the more experienced operator. It was a slow and quiet approach. After the first shot, I would think he would pick up the pace, but he didn't.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 16, 2016 11:35 PM (e7FCa)

What's the expression? Slow is fast?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

45 2 words

moslem control

Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 11:46 PM (N+e/e)

46 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743490585600856065

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743490711102885890

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743490857429504000

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743491003450073088

Posted by: kbdabear at June 16, 2016 11:46 PM (jatZH)

47 Is it too much to hope that Mosby gets sued to penury?

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2016 11:46 PM (gyKtp)

48
What's open in your other tabs? Me: Amazon Prime "And Then There Were None" from 1945.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (5o5ek)

49 An addendum to the Killhouse Rules, (which are GtG as is)...

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in combat" - Marcinko

Also....

"The only real battle in life is between hanging on and letting go" - Alder

Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?

Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (YIivD)

50 More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743491146958114816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743491306081632256

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743491462164254720

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/743491606620282880

Posted by: kbdabear at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (jatZH)

51 My great great great (think I got the # of greats correct) grandfather started a militia. No prior military experience. Not appointed by anybody. The Confederacy was coming to take anything of economic value in his town, especially his saltpeter mine (for the manufacture of gunpowder), and he said "fuck that, we're fighting" and got all of the town's old men together to defend it.

He was assassinated by the rebel raiders, but his militia not only saved the day, but pursued them across East Tennessee and sent them back over the Carolina border with their tails between their legs.

All without one whit of government involvement. That's a militia.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 16, 2016 11:48 PM (J+mig)

52 Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?
Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (YIivD)


"Mongo just pawn in game of life." - Mongo

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:48 PM (0mRoj)

53 No no no!

No one should say anything bad against that judge. Judges are perfect creatures and always operate above reproach! Only people like Donald Trump wold stoop so low as to disparage one of those wonderful, black robed paragons of virtue!

Posted by: the MFM, the Dems, a bunch of Repubes, etc etc at June 16, 2016 11:49 PM (H9MG5)

54 Obama has not and never will have the slightest clue about what is the meaning of liberty.

He is a useless lump of shit.

Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 11:49 PM (MQEz6)

55 WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer


Living is bad for your health. I'm having another cup of coffee and fuck you.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 11:49 PM (syGA0)

56 55 WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer


Living is bad for your health. I'm having another cup of coffee and fuck you.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 11:49 PM (syGA0)

Exactly. Nobody's getting out of here alive, no matter how many kale smoothies you drink.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:50 PM (0mRoj)

57 55 WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer

I read the article. Apparently any very hot beverage could damage your esophagus, which may lead to cancer cells.

Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)

58 In 2015, the DCs Office of Disciplinary Counsel filed charges alleging Pearson's professional conduct, and now, the Board of Professional Responsibility has found him guilty on two charges.


Has he been disbarred yet? And if he hasn't that demonstrates an even bigger problem than his legal insanity.

Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (bMG0w)

59 Being alive causes cancer.

Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (MQEz6)

60 Ever since TFG complained about cynicism a few years back in some yammering speech, I've grown exponentially cynical.

As for almost everything I've read and heard this week which is not yet over, anyone thinking "people will finally wake up" are in for heartbreak.

What some call having faith in America, never giving up, and people will come around, I would call Ghost Dancing

Posted by: kbdabear at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (jatZH)

61 57 Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)

But oral sex is totes not a risk factor...

never mind no offense meant....

SCIENCE!

Living kills you, politics makes you welcome it.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (g8Hfr)

62 57 55 WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer

I read the article. Apparently any very hot beverage could damage your esophagus, which may lead to cancer cells.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)

Only hipsters need to worry then, since they drank coffee before it was cool.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (0mRoj)

63
An addendum to the Killhouse Rules, (which are GtG as is)...

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in combat" - Marcinko

Also....

"The only real battle in life is between hanging on and letting go" - Alder

Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?

Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (YIivD)







Josephus' comment on the Roman Legions "their drills were bloodless battles, their battles bloody drills"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (LuZz8)

64 Posted by: scoville at June 16, 2016 11:38 PM (0adl+)

Is that why the sign is driedel shaped? I was wondering.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (GDulk)

65
Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?
Posted by: Hillbillyking


John Bernard Books: Sometimes it isn't being fast that counts, or even accurate; but willing. Most men will draw a breath or blink an eye before they shoot. I won't.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (IqV8l)

66 "Living is bad for your health. I'm having another cup of coffee and fuck you."



Greatest cause of death ever known.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 11:53 PM (e859L)

67 Crap. Lived my life by killhouse rules.

Posted by: Kindlot at June 16, 2016 11:54 PM (ry34m)

68 60 Posted by: kbdabear at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (jatZH)

You can tell the health of a culture by how many lies it forces itself to believe to let its people earn a living....

We're pretty fucked up, not quite Soviet fucked up but not far either.

Cait Jenner is a woman.

Omar Mateen was a Xian NRA GOP Rotary Club Shriner....

The economy is booming.

Due process is a suicide pact

Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2016 11:54 PM (g8Hfr)

69 WHO: Hot Coffee, Tea 'Probably' Causes Cancer

I read the article. Apparently any very hot beverage could damage your esophagus, which may lead to cancer cells.

Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)


Research funded by the International Iced Tea Foundation, no doubt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:54 PM (GSdpU)

70 Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?
Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (YIivD)

"Always drink upstream from the herd."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:54 PM (rJUlF)

71 Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch: An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity.

Posted by: PabloD at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (GP2ST)

72
But oral sex is totes not a risk factor...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2016 11:52 PM (g8Hfr)








I never meant to imply that my wife had a diseased pooter.....

Posted by: Michael Douglas at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (LuZz8)

73 Time for me to call it an early night. Out in the sun most of the day.

My get up n' go has dun got up n' went.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (v5iqM)

74
Professional licensing, even inactive status, is another cash cow for the state.

#WeAreAllAtmMachines

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (iQIUe)

75 Obama :


Ya, five, six years ago, I was saying stuff and getting hammered for it. Kook, crank, conspriacy theorist.

Now, I could say those same things and people would nod in agreement.

And yet, there is nothing that we the people can do about any of it. It's not our choice. Our fate is in the hands of others, and all we can do is sit here and wait.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 16, 2016 11:56 PM (e7FCa)

76 What's open in your other tabs? Me: Amazon Prime "And Then There Were None" from 1945.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (5o5ek)

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One other tab: Talking with CW Jr via Facebook Messenger.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:56 PM (rJUlF)

77 Once the attacks become too frequent and too severe and lead to demands for the deportation of all Moslem non-citizens (and their sponsors) and the abolishing of all Moslem travel to our Western nations, the Left/Civil Service/MSM/various Churches etc. will fight it by saying (as I think Obama just suggested in one of his two Orlando speeches) that we can't do that because it's anti-Western and anti-liberal (the "good" liberal I mean too, not the Left's version of it) and that we just have to accept some casualties as the price we pay to maintain our civilized Western societies. They'll probably get away with that explanation too until there is a nuke attack on a major city. (When that happens, then I hope we'll go full-on Crusade to wipe them out forever that they won't be able to ignore because mobs will be killing any politician that doesn't approve of it.)

The way to fight that once the non-nuke attacks become too severe (other than immediate military coups with overwhelming popular backing) is to demand that for a proportion of every Islamic terrorist attack deaths, a member of the government and a senior civil servant etc. and/or their immediate family members selected at random will be executed too so that they can share the risks along with the ordinary citizenry and be *seen* to be sharing the risks along with the ordinary citizenry. Keep this in mind for the future.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2016 11:57 PM (PLnZs)

78 72 Posted by: Michael Douglas at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (LuZz

Eh I can almost understand in your case Mike.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2016 11:57 PM (g8Hfr)

79 So much frustrating, sad news about the current times we live in.

And so much happiness, seeing Pants Guy reap the whirlwind.

On balance, these are happy times, taking into account the artisan gin movement.

Posted by: Splunge at June 16, 2016 11:57 PM (iMxBJ)

80 G' night all. Off to WI to try to give Dad a great 80th birthday party.

Be well all and appreciate the folks if they are still around.

T

Posted by: Farmer at June 16, 2016 11:57 PM (o/90i)

81 I never meant to imply that my wife had a diseased pooter.....

Posted by: Michael Douglas at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (LuZz


But you didn't do all your grazing in one pasture, did you, Mike?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:57 PM (GSdpU)

82 And yet, there is nothing that we the people can do
about any of it. It's not our choice. Our fate is in the hands of
others, and all we can do is sit here and wait.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 16, 2016 11:56 PM (e7FCa)


Pretty much, we're just waiting for things to finish their slow-motion collapse and go boom. You can keep yourself busy going all Prepper, but that probably won't be enough. Not when the looters are going to control the tanks.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 16, 2016 11:58 PM (J+mig)

83 " Time for me to call it an early night. Out in the sun most of the day. "


It's been a warm one today. Hot and humid as Hell. Started to get some cramps today.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 11:58 PM (e859L)

84 I can see the incoming storm. Call me; Doppler, Radar


Evening horde!

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 16, 2016 11:58 PM (R5HRU)

85
Some internet wag:

"A thorough understanding of fighting with the bayonet is the greatest of all incentives for improving one's marksmanship."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:59 PM (LuZz8)

86 Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?

--
Therefore the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him.
- Sun Tzu

Posted by: @votermom at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (7lVbc)

87
Is it too much to hope that Mosby gets sued to penury?
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2016 11:46 PM (gyKtp)
------------------

One of the guys who's already been acquitted is suing her, correct? I don't know how easy it is to pull that off, but I hope she at least gets controversied and stenched out of office. She and Mike Nifong can become drinking buddies.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (5o5ek)

88 60 >> As for almost everything I've read and heard this week which is not yet
over, anyone thinking "people will finally wake up" are in for
heartbreak.

Yeah, I'm at Acceptance on the grief scale.

And all the King's horses, and all the King's men, couldn't put the US back together again.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (gyKtp)

89 I'm sure a significant number of her security detail carry fully automatic weapons, either on their person or in their vehicles, which we arent permitted to purchase, in violation of the 2d Amendment. So fuck her sideways with a barbed-wire-wrapped flaming pineapple.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:42 PM (0mRoj)


Nope. That's not how she likes it.

Posted by: Huma at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (+lVUW)

90 89 Posted by: Huma at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (+lVUW)

Huma why does your tongue smell like Grammy H?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:01 AM (g8Hfr)

91 51: Moral of your story; Never fuck with mountain folk.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 17, 2016 12:01 AM (syGA0)

92
One other tab: Talking with CW Jr via Facebook Messenger.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:56 PM (rJUlF)
---------------

Capital! A fellow multitabber!

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (5o5ek)

93 It is Us vs. Them.

Only a fool still follows the R vs. D model.

It is a lie.



Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (MQEz6)

94 What's the expression? Slow is fast?
Posted by: Insomniac
----------------
My experience in racing convinced me that the idea of making things happen 'fast' was a prescription for losing. In point of fact, one ends up being quicker by 'slowing' what is happening to a rate which it is smoothly controllable.

Overcooking it into a turn results in panic braking and/or the adoption of bad lines. The fastest riders are not the most dramatic, but the smoothest and most controlled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (jO7js)

95 And all the King's horses, and all the King's men, couldn't put the US back together again.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:00 AM (gyKtp)


I'm pretty much at the "it'd take a miracle" phase, and I don't see any miracles waiting in the wings. So until then, really hoping that Texas has a fallback plan for when DC finally defaults on its electric bill and all the Congresscritters slink off back to the swamps from which they came.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (J+mig)

96 74 Professional licensing, even inactive status, is another cash cow for the state.
#WeAreAllAtmMachines
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM (iQIUe)


Sensitive topic in these parts. The wife got nailed with two red light, turn-right-on-red-in-obviously-safe-manner camera tickets right in a row, so she did not know about the first by the time she incurred the second. $1,000.

Then they had second thoughts, and forgave...everyone who did not pay up. Nice.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (iMxBJ)

97 91 51: Moral of your story; Never fuck with mountain folk.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 17, 2016 12:01 AM (syGA0)

Indeed. Ignore this at your own peril.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:03 AM (0mRoj)

98 Have to be up in 6 hours. Off to dreamland.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:03 AM (5o5ek)

99 " You can keep yourself busy going all Prepper, but that probably won't be enough. Not when the looters are going to control the tanks."


I've wondered about this. How will the Army pare up? I could imagine a lot National Guard deciding to defend their towns and families than take orders from Capitol City. I don't know.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:03 AM (e859L)

100 Huma why does your tongue smell like Grammy H?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:01 AM (g8Hfr)


"For all the good those suppositories did me, I may as well have shoved them up my ass."

Posted by: just the punchline at June 17, 2016 12:03 AM (GSdpU)

101 Once you go KAC....you'll never go back.

I linked Ballistic Radio's SR-15 endurance test... (that's KAC's civilian version Mil-Spec AR for those that don't know)...

If you can only have ONE rifle, thats the way to go. Just my 2 cents.

Only those with bad intentions want a populace that can't fight back.

I say, Fuck em. Make em pay for their hubris.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 17, 2016 12:03 AM (YIivD)

102 welp since Europe will never deport all the recent migrants, I'm going long on concentration camp futures.....

Posted by: Jake at June 17, 2016 12:04 AM (N+e/e)

103 93
It is Us vs. Them.



Only a fool still follows the R vs. D model.



It is a lie.









Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (MQEz6)


Americans and Fascists. All of the DC crowd are fascists. Planned economics + state ownership is communism, lack of both is Capitalism, state ownership without planned economics is Feudalism, and planned economics with private ownership is Fascism.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (J+mig)

104 >>>An Unseen World

Here a biologist setup an automatic camera at a random waterhole deep in the Brazilian rain forest where humans rarely go. Over a four week period he was astounded.

------

To be is to be perceived. Those fantastical creatures were brought about into existence by that camera.

Posted by: Bishop Berkeley at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (ZR1fB)

105 Capital! A fellow multitabber!
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (5o5ek)

There's usually several more open. A couple more blogs, comic geek fan sites, radio industry stuff. I've been too busy catching up on laundry tonight to read much. (Ah, the bachelor life.)

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (rJUlF)

106 safe-manner camera tickets right in a row,

.....

no traffic fine cameras in the ID

Posted by: Jake at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (N+e/e)

107 What's open in your other tabs? Me: Amazon Prime "And Then There Were None" from 1945.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (5o5ek)


I've been reading Agatha Christie. She really was a good mystery writer. And very prolific. The estate must be worth a fortune.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (+lVUW)

108 "Only a fool still follows the R vs. D model.

It is a lie. "



Pretty much. Only a few principled Constitutionalists left in D.C. Mostly grafters and opportunists on both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (e859L)

109 Has it been discussed on any threads today that our Female Body Inspectors, F.B.I., investigated the Orlando goatfucker twice, but dropped it because they thought those who had complained were "Islamophobic"?

And, one of the gun shop owners thought he was a bit fishy when he was trying to buy body armor and bulk ammo, and reported him to the same F.B.I bunch?

We are so fucked.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (DW+jj)

110 People ask me why I don't own a car and don't have a license.

I tell them some of the truth when I answer, but I leave out how California can't use my car against me.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (MQEz6)

111 102 Posted by: Jake at June 17, 2016 12:04 AM (N+e/e)

Yeah the question is who will be in which?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (g8Hfr)

112 The fact that we exist must mean that something is observing us...

Posted by: Bishop Berkeley at June 17, 2016 12:07 AM (ZR1fB)

113 109 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (DW+jj)

Had he not shot 103 people Obama's DoJ would have helped him sue the gun dealer in all likelihood.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:07 AM (g8Hfr)

114 "Cry in the dojo, laugh on the battlefield"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 17, 2016 12:08 AM (kP16F)

115 I know that I haven't been around- I'm still busy in rose garden & past three winters have killed old established roses. I had to have best male friend cut down my favorite pink/white blend climbers off arbor to ankle level last spring. All the snow in Boston's area was after subzero temps in January.
We had same subzero temps January 3016 @ I lost 10 year old white climber.

This is from Powerlinr & I love that Exxon Mobil told our AG to F Off! She's lesbian & they passed transgender bathroom Bill here. Healy told women who might be uncomfortable using rest rooms w/sexual predators to "hold it in!"

http://tinyurl.com/z9g3f8u

Posted by: Carol at June 17, 2016 12:08 AM (sj3Ax)

116 109 Has it been discussed on any threads today that our Female Body Inspectors, F.B.I., investigated the Orlando goatfucker twice, but dropped it because they thought those who had complained were "Islamophobic"?

And, one of the gun shop owners thought he was a bit fishy when he was trying to buy body armor and bulk ammo, and reported him to the same F.B.I bunch?

We are so fucked.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:06 AM (DW+jj)

Don't forget that Disney World also reported him to FBI as he appeared to be conducting reconnaissance. And the FBI did fuck all. Again.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:08 AM (0mRoj)

117 107 I've been reading Agatha Christie. She really was a good mystery writer. And very prolific. The estate must be worth a fortune.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (+lVUW)


Yup. A tad too whimsical occasionally, as in "The Big Four," but when she stuck to business, amazing. "And Then There Were None" is deservedly classic, as is "The Murder of Roger Akroyd." If you don't know why that last one is a classic, don't Google it to get the twist spoiled, just read it. Many wonderful Poirot books, and I loved the posthumous wrap-up, "Curtain."

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:08 AM (iMxBJ)

118 I read the article. Apparently any very hot beverage could damage your esophagus, which may lead to cancer cells.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)


So cocoa is going to kill us all.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

119 118 I read the article. Apparently any very hot beverage could damage your esophagus, which may lead to cancer cells.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (7lVbc)

So cocoa is going to kill us all.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

No, death is.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:09 AM (0mRoj)

120 Those shooting houses always make me think of the battle for Berlin at the end of WWII, or sometimes the defense of Stalingrad.

I haven't thought much about the battle for Falujah, or Mosul. Or even the street fighting in Mogadishu, but put yourself in those places. Or in the Warsaw ghetto.

What would you do? On either side?

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:10 AM (e7FCa)

121 102
welp since Europe will never deport all the recent migrants, I'm going long on concentration camp futures.....

Posted by: Jake at June 17, 2016 12:04 AM (N+e/e)


The problem is that they will never assimilate them -- which logically leaves deportation or extermination, neither of which are very pleasant to contemplate. Sucks to be them -- sure hope the Brits get out in time.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

122 Healy told women who might be uncomfortable using rest rooms w/sexual predators to "hold it in!"
-----------

So, I guess he hasn't been deemed responsible for the Orlando shooting, as NC Governor McCrory has?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:11 AM (jO7js)

123 welp since Europe will never deport all the recent migrants, I'm going long on concentration camp futures.....
Posted by: Jake at June 17, 2016 12:04 AM (N+e/e)


How do you convince several million gropy, ungrateful, lazy, narcissistic, stupid, violent, unsanitary shit heads to self deport?

Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at June 17, 2016 12:11 AM (ZR1fB)

124 You can be stupid, or you can be lazy, but you can't be both.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (dULJN)

125 17 minute interview of Squier describing how that video destroyed his career and neither Squier nor the interviewer note the the thing that is obvious to anyone who watches even 30 seconds of the video: he looked like the biggest fairy you ever saw.

I guess it would be hateful to notice that to his fans, that was not what they were looking for when they bought his music.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (R+30W)

126 " I know that I haven't been around- I'm still busy in rose garden...."




Carol, definitely no-see in a while. How are you?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (e859L)

127 105 Capital! A fellow multitabber!
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (5o5ek)
There's usually several more open. A couple more blogs, comic geek fan sites, radio industry stuff. I've been too busy catching up on laundry tonight to read much. (Ah, the bachelor life.)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (rJUlF)


I think my record which I hit a few weeks ago is around 430 open tabs. Which even I will admit is a bit excessive. Even with a shitload of RAM it still starts getting boggy. Luckily my favorite tab manager is now working again so I can start organizing tabs into groups.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (pAlYe)

128 123 How do you convince several million gropy, ungrateful, lazy, narcissistic, stupid, violent, unsanitary shit heads to self deport?
Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at June 17, 2016 12:11 AM (ZR1fB)


Take away their welfare benefits. Hiyo!

Posted by: Zombie Ed McMahon at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (iMxBJ)

129 @109

The most infuriating thing is if you or I failed this spectacularly we would face serious employment related reprecusions the least of which would be termination.

These fuckers will probably get promoted or be allowed to quietly retire at full compensation.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 17, 2016 12:13 AM (lgNzO)

130 58 In 2015, the DCs Office of Disciplinary Counsel filed charges alleging Pearson's professional conduct, and now, the Board of Professional Responsibility has found him guilty on two charges.
Has he been disbarred yet? And if he hasn't that demonstrates an even bigger problem than his legal insanity.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2016 11:51 PM (bMG0w)


Exactly. And why has this shit dragged on for so long? They have known for several years that these lawsuits of his were ridiculously stupid and have destroyed a couples' business for no sane reason.
The real question is : Is the Office of Disciplinary Council of any value at all? Or are they just a bunch of useless people with job titles?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:13 AM (+lVUW)

131 So hate speech.

It's OK to call an Irishman a fookin mick, an Englishman a bloody limey, an Italian a fuggin dago, a Jew a fuckin kike, a Frenchman whatever, but you cannot call your groundskeeper a Mexican, your hairdresser a faggot, or your fucking senator madame.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 17, 2016 12:13 AM (U6f54)

132 >>How do you convince several million gropy, ungrateful, lazy, narcissistic, stupid, violent, unsanitary shit heads to self deport?

We aren't leaving!

Posted by: The Democrats at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (c7vUv)

133 127 Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (pAlYe)

Hats off Maet...

I usually have 15 tabs open, my personal best was 65.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (g8Hfr)

134 Yep, we're gonna have to be saving Europe's ass again in a few years. That is, if our own ass isn't thoroughly fucked itself, which seems to be what the odds are favoring.

On the plus side, destroying most of the civilized world again will be a plus for us economically. But, things being what they are, we might be subject to some of that destruction ourselves.

That's a memo to the Keynesians. It wasn't massive govt. spending that made WWII so good, it was the fact that as a side effect, we destroyed the competition.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (DW+jj)

135 The Horde abides.....Out-Fuckin-Standing!!!

Exquisitley Well Done with the quotes, all.

Sips contently from said Patriotic vessel an smiles.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (YIivD)

136 120
Those shooting houses always make me think of the battle for Berlin at the end of WWII, or sometimes the defense of Stalingrad.



I haven't thought much about the battle for Falujah, or Mosul. Or
even the street fighting in Mogadishu, but put yourself in those places.
Or in the Warsaw ghetto.



What would you do? On either side?





Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:10 AM (e7FCa)


"Clear house-by-house" or "flatten the fucking thing"....hmmm......

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

137
*staggers out of tab forest, gasping for air and water*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (jO7js)

138 "I'd say there's a nonzero chance once the election's over that Obama will come clean about his heart's fondest desire in that regard."

Once the election's over? I'm going on Hajj, baby!!

Who else is in? Brennan? Val?

Posted by: Barky at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (X4FeV)

139 There is a deeper mystery, but it is cultural.

The shooter had to change mags. 30 round magazines. He fired for an extended time, and had to reload.

Where was the Rush and Crush AKA Zerg rush? Is Zerg rush too old for todays hip crowd? The crowd basically just let themselves be targets if they could not get away. A nightclub has a lot of weapons at hand (or feet for stiletto heels) to use. Yet they did not.

I'll admit it would be hard to be grind dancing to a techno beat with your new best friend one moment, and rushing a shooter the next. But that would save a lot of lives.

Mark Moogalian, Anthony Sadler, Alek Skarlatos, and Spencer Stone all worked to stop a heavily armed and murderous Islamic shooter on Thalys train 9364 back in 2015. The shooter had nine magazines with 270 rounds. IIRC he never got a chance to put in a fresh magazine.

Those heroes were all culturally American, and rushed the shooter, disregarding their own safety. They saved a number of lives. Over 500 people were on that train.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (hyuyC)

140 The real question is : Is the Office of Disciplinary
Council of any value at all? Or are they just a bunch of useless people
with job titles?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2016 12:13 AM (+lVUW)


If they work for the government, the answer to that question is a default yes.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (J+mig)

141 Look, if Fast and Furious worked the way we hoped to get guns banned in this country then we wouldn't have to import a bunch of mohammedans to kill you with guns that way we can get guns banned in this country.

It's. all. your. fault.




... and those meddling kids **points to the Scooby Gang**

Posted by: SCOAMF, Holder, and the rest of the Hussein Clown Posse at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (H9MG5)

142 For the Anime Hat, this could be dangerous

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hmk32nc

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (1IxYa)

143 I'd read some decades ago that the the high rate of oesophageal cancer in China is attributable to the practice of guzzling hot tea...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (kP16F)

144 127
105 Capital! A fellow multitabber!
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 17, 2016 12:02 AM (5o5ek)
There's
usually several more open. A couple more blogs, comic geek fan sites,
radio industry stuff. I've been too busy catching up on laundry tonight
to read much. (Ah, the bachelor life.)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 17, 2016 12:05 AM (rJUlF)

I
think my record which I hit a few weeks ago is around 430 open tabs.
Which even I will admit is a bit excessive. Even with a shitload of RAM
it still starts getting boggy. Luckily my favorite tab manager is now
working again so I can start organizing tabs into groups.


Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (pAlYe)


And what is this favorite tab manager (as someone who has 7 windows and a couple-hundred tabs open now...)???

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (EzgxV)

145 Ordered a new computer recently. First time in a long time. Chrome was starting to warn me that it was dropping support for Windows XP, and I was resorting to radical means to keep the 4GB viable.

Computer vendor: How much memory?
Me: 16GB!
(pause to consider the number of tabs I routinely have open)
Me: 32 GB!

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:17 AM (iMxBJ)

146 134 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:14 AM (DW+jj)

I figure my son will wind up carrying the ruck on this fight he is 16....

I'd prefer he have a good military with a smart President and a Nationalist America....

I am probably gonna get one of the three.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:18 AM (g8Hfr)

147 What would you do? On either side?

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:10 AM (e7FCa)
***
Knew a few WWII vets of the Red Army.

One was a strumovik - the dudes who did a lot of the street-fighting (he started at Leningrad, and fought all the way to Berlin).

General rule in street-fighting, he said, was to get as close to the enemy as possible, as fast as possible, and once you've made contact, hold on til you kill them or you can get some armor to back you up.

General procedure in 'clearing' a room - one dude kicks the door, everybody throws in grenades - BOOM! - then you go in and hose the place down with your SMG. What bullets and blast don't kill gets beaten to death with your entrenching tool.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 12:18 AM (lutOX)

148 143 I'd read some decades ago that the the high rate of oesophageal cancer in China is attributable to the practice of guzzling hot tea...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (kP16F)


Or maybe the shots of baiju?

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (iMxBJ)

149 127 >> I think my record which I hit a few weeks ago is around 430 open tabs.

Ho Lee Fuk, Maet. I start reading and bookmarking and closing stuff when I get to 20 or so.

Dayum.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (gyKtp)

150 Those heroes were all culturally American, and rushed the shooter, disregarding their own safety. They saved a number of lives. Over 500 people were on that train.
Posted by: NaCly
--------------

Predominantly ghey (NTTAWWT) latinos.

I mean, it's not like this was a biker bar in South Dakota.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (jO7js)

151 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (hyuyC)



Exactly. The thing to do if you're in one of those lone shooter scenarios and within 10 meters of him is to assume that you're going to die if he isn't taken down as fast as humanly possible and rush the fucker.



You may or may not survive, but you've got better odds surviving the rush than you do trying to run away, and you'll certainly save lives other than your own if the shooter is taken down by the rush.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (J+mig)

152 Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (pAlYe)

And what is this favorite tab manager (as someone who has 7 windows and a couple-hundred tabs open now...)???
Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (EzgxV)



Tab Groups Manager Revived. It should work with any Mozilla-derived browser.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:20 AM (pAlYe)

153 "*staggers out of tab forest, gasping for air and water*"



Tab a pulpwood?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:20 AM (e859L)

154 "or flatten the fulking thing"


and that reminds me of Chechnya.

I think that was what happened there.
Haven't heard much since.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:20 AM (e7FCa)

155 139 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (hyuyC)

If he used a single point sling he cowed the hostages with the pistol and probably shot one to get the point across then changed mags.

Rumor mill says OPD admits they may have killed 12 people and wounded 20....multiple victims claim they were shot on the infil.

OPD gave Omar three hours to play some mutant "Dr Phil Meets Ask the Imam" host.

It was a raging clusterfuck.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:21 AM (g8Hfr)

156 And with all this, I've got to take my mother for another zapping, another intentionally induced seizure tomorrow morning.

This will be the last of the "treatments". Well, unless Herr Doktor Frankenstein decides he wants to zap her another time.

I shouldn't talk like that, but the guy looks the part, right out of central casting. They don't do this lightly and it's an expert like him, someone with years of experience who actually does the thing. The other puh-sychiatrist in charge of my mother's treatment is there under him, plus a couple of others and nurses who themselves are trained in the "procedure" with experience themselves.

When he first came in, I figured he was in charge. He had that look, and appeared to have an air of command, that he was running the horror show.

But he's got that look. Very smart, can talk and appear to be Mr. Spock or something, but yet, thoroughly deranged. He's got a mad scientist air about him.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:21 AM (DW+jj)

157 150 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (jO7js)

The El Paso Tranny Hooker gays would have killed him had he not been shooting a few with the pistol.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:21 AM (g8Hfr)

158 131 So hate speech.

It's OK to call an Irishman a fookin mick, an Englishman a bloody limey, an Italian a fuggin dago, a Jew a fuckin kike, a Frenchman whatever, but you cannot call your groundskeeper a Mexican, your hairdresser a faggot, or your fucking senator madame.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 17, 2016 12:13 AM (U6f54)

++++

I'm no expert, but I think most Jews are offended by the 'k' word. For the Frenchman, I think frog is the slur you are looking for (although if you actually call him a whatever he might get pissed off at you anyway). As far as the groundskeeper goes, you should be ok calling him a Mexican, unless he is Cuban or something.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (R+30W)

159 141 Look, if Fast and Furious worked the way we hoped to get guns banned in this country then we wouldn't have to import a bunch of mohammedans to kill you with guns that way we can get guns banned in this country.

It's. all. your. fault.




... and those meddling kids **points to the Scooby Gang**
Posted by: SCOAMF, Holder, and the rest of the Hussein Clown Posse at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (H9MG5)

There was a time when that would have sounded completely tin-foil hat crazy. Not so much anymore.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (0mRoj)

160 OPD gave Omar three hours to play some mutant "Dr Phil Meets Ask the Imam" host.

It was a raging clusterfuck.


Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:21 AM (g8Hfr)


To use a phrase I coined in one of my non-Ace socks... "When seconds count, the police might take 3 hours to devise a rescue plan."

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (J+mig)

161 What would you do? On either side?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse-holing

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (PLnZs)

162 OPD gave Omar three hours
--------------

I still can't process that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:23 AM (jO7js)

163 As far as the groundskeeper goes, you should be ok calling him a Mexican, unless he is Cuban or something.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (R+30W)


If you call a Cuban a Mexican, expect a black eye. They really don't like each other very much.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (J+mig)

164 I also wondered why no one rushed him when he dropped a mag. I guess maybe people just don't know

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (dULJN)

165 162 OPD gave Omar three hours
--------------

I still can't process that...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:23 AM (jO7js)

Whoever was in charge of that operation should commit public seppuku.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)

166 "One was a strumovik - the dudes who did a lot of the street-fighting (he started at Leningrad, and fought all the way to Berlin). "


Knew a guy who's grandfather fought as a German solider at Stalingrad. Got captured and spent a couple years in Russian prison camp. When the war was over they turned the surviving prisoners loose and told them they had to find they're own way back to Germany. Somehow he managed to get back.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (e859L)

167 @145 Chrome supports xp? Just bing chrome crouton. Crouton offers a full Debian environment you can switch to with just a keystroke.

Posted by: Steve and Cold bear at June 17, 2016 12:25 AM (ZR1fB)

168
152
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:12 AM (pAlYe)

And what is this favorite tab manager (as someone who has 7 windows and a couple-hundred tabs open now...)???
Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:16 AM (EzgxV)
Tab Groups Manager Revived. It should work with any Mozilla-derived browser.


Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:20 AM (pAlYe)


Tab Groups 2.0.1 by Quicksaver? Or is it from outside the Mozilla-curated collection?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:25 AM (EzgxV)

169 I just remembered that in an episode of I Love Lucy, Ricky pronounced psychiatrist as "fizz -ee - key -atrist". I think I'll adopt that rather than "puh sye kye a trist".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:25 AM (DW+jj)

170 145 Ordered a new computer recently. First time in a long time. Chrome was starting to warn me that it was dropping support for Windows XP, and I was resorting to radical means to keep the 4GB viable.

Computer vendor: How much memory?
Me: 16GB!
(pause to consider the number of tabs I routinely have open)
Me: 32 GB!

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:17 AM (iMxBJ)

++++

Slimjet is a variant of Chrome that still works on XP.
http://www.slimjet.com/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:25 AM (R+30W)

171 160 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:22 AM (J+mig)

OPD put Officer Safety as supreme, and likely was under organizational PC pressure perversely b/c of its demographics.

The Democrat coalition is LITERALLY a suicide caucus ring a bell?

@Nero has been pointing out the left will get gays tossed off buildings b/c the ONE rule is "never hurt Jihadi Jim" emotionally.

Amarillo retired their (admittedly less skilled) Jihadi in ~30 minutes....

there's a reason why.

I think OPD was afraid b/c Omar was a G4S contractor....

The LE types have a proper fear of trained gunmen.

Imagine if Omar had been an 11 Bravo.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:27 AM (g8Hfr)

172 170 Slimjet is a variant of Chrome that still works on XP.
http://www.slimjet.com/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:25 AM (R+30W)


Interesting. Actually, Chrome still works, and will probably continue to work. It's just that they're not going to do security updates for it any more, as it tells me, loudly, every time I open the darned thing.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:27 AM (iMxBJ)

173 Ricky pronounced psychiatrist as "fizz -ee - key -atrist". I think I'll adopt that ...
-----------

Just don't use it around any Mexicans.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:27 AM (jO7js)

174
164
I also wondered why no one rushed him when he dropped a mag. I guess maybe people just don't know

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (dULJN)


Hell, he probably whipped out a box of ammo and reloaded a mag or two, when he wasn't making phone calls or receiving texts.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

175 Tab manager ! You guys are crazy

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 17, 2016 12:28 AM (dULJN)

176 Hey everybody.

I shared this before, I'm going to share it again as I think it's worth a read. Someone named Publius made a comment, I wonder if it's the same Publius who comments here. :-)

Marc Cooper is a super-liberal (and I gave up on our flimsy friendship at FB about a year ago) but IMHO he makes some good points about liberals' irrational aversion to guns and gun owners, even while he calls for new legislation/regulation (sigh).

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/gun-control-is-a-misfire/

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:29 AM (q7T0y)

177 Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.

Posted by: James Mattis at June 17, 2016 12:29 AM (gyKtp)

178 This website is so mean and racist !! I am sending an E-Mail to Michealel Obama right now and tells her what is going at this website !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 17, 2016 12:29 AM (Fbj4h)

179 That wasn't me. Of late, here is about the only place I bother to shoot my mouth off.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:30 AM (DW+jj)

180 Obama showed this week he can literally fuck up and kill 50 supporters and the media will cover for him.

The NRA, Boy Scouts, GOP, 4H Club, Shirners, and Masons did not shoot 103 people.

A registered democrat likely gay Muslim twice cleared by FBI hired by Jeh Johnson's DHS through G4s Armed Security contractor did.

Our political opponents live in an imaginary world where not baking a cake is worse than shooting 103 people.

We're fucked b/c 1/3 of our party agrees.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:30 AM (g8Hfr)

181 165
162 OPD gave Omar three hours

--------------



I still can't process that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:23 AM (jO7js)



Whoever was in charge of that operation should commit public seppuku.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:24 AM (0mRoj)


To be fair, it was the phone call from the DoJ saying, "hold on -- we've got to make this into an excuse for Federal gun control."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)

182 Hey Mary, I've just a met a doktor who I think could do you some good. I'd think he'd enjoy it, too.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:31 AM (DW+jj)

183 176 Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:29 AM (q7T0y)

Their "irrational fear" is they want the power to kill us for not agreeing.

That ain't fear guy that is tyranny.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:31 AM (g8Hfr)

184 181 To be fair, it was the phone call from the DoJ saying, "hold on -- we've got to make this into an excuse for Federal gun control."
Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)


You'd have to be made of stone not to laugh at the left's tone of desperation in the wake of this incident. It could hardly have been more counter-narrative.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (iMxBJ)

185 here is about the only place I bother to shoot my mouth off.
Posted by: publius
------------

Slaps field dressing on pub's face.

You'll be okay, bud. Just hang in there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (jO7js)

186 *scratches head in puzzlement*

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ja53onf

Mikimoto art??? Then why is it in the Ken-ichi Sonoda art book Gallant on pg 86 listed as [ Character Goods ARTMIC / 88 ]

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (1IxYa)

187 sven, uh wuh?? :-)

Idiots libs who want that kind of power are usually full of irrational fear and loathing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (q7T0y)

188 publius, okay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:33 AM (q7T0y)

189
184
181 To be fair, it was the phone call from the DoJ saying, "hold on
-- we've got to make this into an excuse for Federal gun control."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:30 AM (EzgxV)



You'd have to be made of stone not to laugh at the left's tone of
desperation in the wake of this incident. It could hardly have been more
counter-narrative.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (iMxBJ)


And, yet -- the dickwipes in Congress are debating it.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:33 AM (EzgxV)

190 To be fair, it was the phone call from the DoJ saying, "hold on -- we've got to make this into an excuse for Federal gun control."
Posted by: cthulhu
------------

One imagines an immediate call to Ben Rhodes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:33 AM (jO7js)

191 Interesting. Actually, Chrome still works, and will probably continue to work. It's just that they're not going to do security updates for it any more, as it tells me, loudly, every time I open the darned thing.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2016 12:27 AM (iMxBJ)

++++

Slimjet keeps updating, so you are not stuck with something from before Chrome version 50.

Google also removes all old versions of Chrome off the net, so if you try to download the last one before the stopped supporting XP, you are out of luck. Or if your installation gets corrupted and you want to reinstall? So sorry, too bad. Google only allows downloads of the current version. If you search for old versions, sites like File Hippo come up, but when you click to download, you get the latest version.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:33 AM (R+30W)

192 The shooter had to change mags. 30 round magazines. He fired for an extended time, and had to reload.

Where was the Rush and Crush AKA Zerg rush? Is Zerg rush too old for todays hip crowd? The crowd basically just let themselves be targets if they could not get away. A nightclub has a lot of weapons at hand (or feet for stiletto heels) to use. Yet they did not.

I'll admit it would be hard to be grind dancing to a techno beat with your new best friend one moment, and rushing a shooter the next. But that would save a lot of lives.

Mark Moogalian, Anthony Sadler, Alek Skarlatos, and Spencer Stone all worked to stop a heavily armed and murderous Islamic shooter on Thalys train 9364 back in 2015. The shooter had nine magazines with 270 rounds. IIRC he never got a chance to put in a fresh magazine.

Those heroes were all culturally American, and rushed the shooter, disregarding their own safety. They saved a number of lives. Over 500 people were on that train.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2016 12:15 AM (hyuyC)




my guess is you are going to see lots of people piled up n corners as far away from the door as possible. so someone would have to be aware a mag was being changed while being close enough to do something during the mag change.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:34 AM (AoSQU)

193 187 Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:32 AM (q7T0y)

Manchin is a "sane democrat" he just said that due process is "killing us"...they want all the marbles.

I am reading the piece, I am strangely unpersuaded he will help deny the left its cookie.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:35 AM (g8Hfr)

194 You'd have to be made of stone not to laugh at the left's tone of desperation in the wake of this incident

-----

I'm not laughing. Obama has redefined the whole thing just by his rhetoric. His loyal minions have their programing re-inforced. The media has their talking points, and we grind our teeth.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:35 AM (e7FCa)

195
162 OPD gave Omar three hours
--------------

I still can't process that...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 12:23 AM (jO7js)

They were costumed and equipped like soldiers, but trained and indoctrinated like hallway monitors.

The USA is still deep in the denial phase of this war with Islam. That is my most charitable take on it, too.

There is only one answer to this: every time we are attacked, they lose a city.

The trick is to get the US leadership to take this road. It does not want to do it. It wants more of this. The Empire has to fall first, then Islam can be defeated.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:36 AM (MQEz6)

196
I am reading the piece, I am strangely unpersuaded he will help deny the left its cookie.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:35 AM (g8Hfr)




it is shocking how many people are fine with or ignoring the due process ramifications of the suggested secret lists.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:36 AM (AoSQU)

197 Hell, they wouldn't have had to Zorg-rush him.

I can't help thinking there might have been a few bottles handy for throwing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 12:37 AM (lutOX)

198 I'm not laughing. Obama has redefined the whole
thing just by his rhetoric. His loyal minions have their programing
re-inforced. The media has their talking points, and we grind our teeth.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:35 AM (e7FCa)



Agreed. They've lost the national argument on guns, and people's purchasing patterns are showing it, but they're not going to take it lying down. They're going to try to force the issue, and soon.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:37 AM (J+mig)

199 sven, @Nero has been reinstated on Twitter once again. He quoted this one:

@Nero I swear your Twitter account goes down more than you do...

Heh. Guy's got a great sense of humor.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:38 AM (gyKtp)

200 Fallin' asleep... Bonne nuit et belles reves, Horde!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 17, 2016 12:39 AM (kP16F)

201 Yes, throw shit. Anything. Chairs, bottles, anything capable of being picked up and thrown. I mean, one group yells and screams and shit, gets his attention, and another comes up. Yep, he's gonna blow some away, but shit hitting him is going to have an effect. And he's not gonna kill them all before they get to him.

But, each one has to act, and it's each individual is scared and trying to protect himself.

It does take training to be able to "rush the enemy" in the face of fire.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:39 AM (DW+jj)

202 Google also removes all old versions of Chrome off the net, so if you try to download the last one before the stopped supporting XP, you are out of luck. Or if your installation gets corrupted and you want to reinstall? So sorry, too bad. Google only allows downloads of the current version. If you search for old versions, sites like File Hippo come up, but when you click to download, you get the latest version.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:33 AM (R+30W


I used to make a practice of saving the "install" files for downloaded software in the "myvideos" directory of Windoze, so I could do a re-install if the program became corrupted.

Posted by: just the punchline at June 17, 2016 12:39 AM (GSdpU)

203 196 Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:36 AM (AoSQU)

What's to stop Ogabe and Friends and his stay behind from simply going to open secrets and adding 90 million GOP donors to the magic list?

Why if we have enough evidence to abrogate the identified's liberty are we not prosecuting them?

Let this sink in...the FBI investigated Omar twice decided his co-workers were "wacist" and closed the file.

When the Democrats say "people on Terror lists shouldn't buy guns" they do not mean Omar Mateen he is not a fucking terrorist in their eyes they gave him a goddamned job carrying a gun on federal property....

they mean "us."

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:40 AM (g8Hfr)

204 sven and y5, yeah, the left's hatred takes precedence.

There are a few lefties left like Glenn Greenwald who at least make a little noise about due process. But where the rubber meets the road? Yeah, I'm not going to bother trying to hide under their skirts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 17, 2016 12:41 AM (q7T0y)

205 195 Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:36 AM (MQEz6)

Had it been 3 MOUT trained operatives on an 11 minute timer they would have killed the same # of people and been gone before the PD could stop them.

That is where we are.


Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:41 AM (g8Hfr)

206 199
sven, @Nero has been reinstated on Twitter once again. He quoted this one:

@Nero I swear your Twitter account goes down more than you do...

Heh. Guy's got a great sense of humor.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:38 AM (gyKtp)


Ha! The lefties don't know how to cope with gays with balls. Hope everyone saw this -- http://www.dailywire.com/news/ 6612/west-hollywood-inundated-poster- rainbow-gadsen-hank-berrien -- h/t Insty.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

207 my guess is you are going to see lots of people piled up n corners as far away from the door as possible. so someone would have to be aware a mag was being changed while being close enough to do something during the mag change.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:34 AM (AoSQU)


To have rushed him during a mag change would have meant watching him while he was shooting in order to catch the second or two of mag change and then being within 30 feet or so of him and already on your feet, and doing all of this in a dark chaotic club with music blaring and people screaming and running everywhere. Easy to say but hard to actually pull off in practice.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)

208 Well, they came up with designated drivers.

How about designated protector?

The DP has to stay sober and vigilent the entire time.

All the DP's present have to signal each other so they can back each other up.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (MQEz6)

209
Exactly. The thing to do if you're in one of those lone shooter scenarios and within 10 meters of him is to assume that you're going to die if he isn't taken down as fast as humanly possible and rush the fucker.



You may or may not survive, but you've got better odds surviving the rush than you do trying to run away, and you'll certainly save lives other than your own if the shooter is taken down by the rush.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 17, 2016 12:19 AM (J+mig)


As I've said before... if this had been a Biker Bar, Country Bar, or Military Bar...

the results would have been different....

Posted by: Don Q........ at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (qf6WZ)

210
Google only allows downloads of the current version. If you search for old versions, sites like File Hippo come up, but when you click to download, you get the latest version.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous


How about here? :

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/google-chrome/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 17, 2016 12:44 AM (IqV8l)

211 Ricardo,
I was going to buy Amdro again (? Spelling) for outside ants. Amdro is either banned or discontinu

My older brother told me that they're trying to ban Round Up. I order 5 packs of the The 5 packs of the water soluble packages & he put garden things in shed & moved things in basement. I knew I had Round Up from last year & it wasn't where I'd left it & ordered two more.
I am ok but spend a lot of time soaking my weak, swollen hands in bathroom sink.

How are you?
I'm Harvey movie from 1950 on demand. I don't watch any television knew

Posted by: Carol at June 17, 2016 12:44 AM (sj3Ax)

212 Mosby. What an incompetent, partisan hack.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 17, 2016 12:44 AM (sl+zA)

213 What's to stop Ogabe and Friends and his stay behind from simply going to open secrets and adding 90 million GOP donors to the magic list?

Why if we have enough evidence to abrogate the identified's liberty are we not prosecuting them?

Let this sink in...the FBI investigated Omar twice decided his co-workers were "wacist" and closed the file.

When the Democrats say "people on Terror lists shouldn't buy guns" they do not mean Omar Mateen he is not a fucking terrorist in their eyes they gave him a goddamned job carrying a gun on federal property....

they mean "us."
Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:40 AM (g8Hfr)




yeah, if omar got two investigations how useful are lists or fbi investigations? no way the fbi or anyone has the resources to manage a list in any way that protects constitutional rights.

besides, why would someone who believes in amendments 2 and 5 ever agree to some sort of list in the light of evil lois lerner's abuses. some filthy liberal will start putting people on the list wholesale.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:44 AM (AoSQU)

214 203
196 Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:36 AM (AoSQU)

What's
to stop Ogabe and Friends and his stay behind from simply going to open
secrets and adding 90 million GOP donors to the magic list?

Why if we have enough evidence to abrogate the identified's liberty are we not prosecuting them?

Let this sink in...the FBI investigated Omar twice decided his co-workers were "wacist" and closed the file.

When
the Democrats say "people on Terror lists shouldn't buy guns" they do
not mean Omar Mateen he is not a fucking terrorist in their eyes they
gave him a goddamned job carrying a gun on federal property....

they mean "us."


Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:40 AM (g8Hfr)


That's exactly the plan -- and it's why knee-jerk reactions should ALWAYS be opposed.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:45 AM (EzgxV)

215 Easy to say but hard to actually pull off in practice.


Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)


And yet.... 3 guys on a French Train....

Posted by: Don Q........ at June 17, 2016 12:45 AM (qf6WZ)

216 201 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:39 AM (DW+jj)

He took a choked bar and vectored people into a firing arc and likely using a single point sling used the pistol to cow people after he was bingo ammo in a mag.

This was done over a 180 minute period...he could have done this with two single action army colts.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:45 AM (g8Hfr)

217 I can't help thinking there might have been a few bottles handy for throwing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 12:37 AM (lutOX)


I am thinking the takeaway from the Orlando jihad is that nightclub owners, and indeed owners of any venue where the public congregates and forms a potential target-rich environment for jihadis or plain old nutbars, should acquire a few weapons suitable for close-quarters fighting, and secrete them on the premises, in places known only to trusted employees. Regard those employees as "deputy sheriffs". In the event of an incident, those trusted employees are to recover the weapons, and engage the perp from cover.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2016 12:46 AM (GSdpU)

218 It SB News! I watch television only to entertain me.

Posted by: Carol at June 17, 2016 12:46 AM (sj3Ax)

219 besides, why would someone who believes in amendments 2 and 5 ever agree to some sort of list in the light of evil lois lerner's abuses. some filthy liberal will start putting people on the list wholesale.

There would be nothing to stop it from being a progressive's enemies list. Nothing.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:47 AM (0mRoj)

220 I used to make a practice of saving the "install" files for downloaded software in the "myvideos" directory of Windoze, so I could do a re-install if the program became corrupted.

Posted by: just the punchline at June 17, 2016 12:39 AM (GSdpU)

++++

Same here. I got out of practice since almost everyone makes their old versions available for download. Plus, there are the sites that specialize in keeping copies of old versions of popular software. I figured why waste the drive space. But, Google has sent copyright notices to those sites forcing them to take down any old versions.

No biggie. It turns out I like Slimjet better anyway. I only ever used Chrome as a secondary browser anyway. Pale Moon is still my preference.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 17, 2016 12:47 AM (R+30W)

221 *whistles*

$2,549 for a Char Aznable A1 cel

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2016 12:47 AM (1IxYa)

222 Once being on the list means no guns for you, they will put us all on the list and only special cupcakes will be granted exemptions.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:48 AM (MQEz6)

223 207
my guess is you are going to see lots of people piled up n corners as
far away from the door as possible. so someone would have to be aware a
mag was being changed while being close enough to do something during
the mag change.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:34 AM (AoSQU)

To
have rushed him during a mag change would have meant watching him while
he was shooting in order to catch the second or two of mag change and
then being within 30 feet or so of him and already on your feet, and
doing all of this in a dark chaotic club with music blaring and people
screaming and running everywhere. Easy to say but hard to actually pull
off in practice.


Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)


The DJ said that he cut the music after the first few shots.

And, yes -- it is absolutely difficult. Only wolves or sheepdogs can pull it off -- but there were fewer people on United Flight 93, and more attackers.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:48 AM (EzgxV)

224 To have rushed him during a mag change would have meant watching him while he was shooting in order to catch the second or two of mag change and then being within 30 feet or so of him and already on your feet, and doing all of this in a dark chaotic club with music blaring and people screaming and running everywhere. Easy to say but hard to actually pull off in practice.
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)




oh yeah, not easy at all. even harder if you have no idea how a gun works, and have never ever thought about what they would do in such a situation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:49 AM (AoSQU)

225 222 Once being on the list means no guns for you, they will put us all on the list and only special cupcakes will be granted exemptions.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:48 AM (MQEz6)

First stop: voter registration records.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:50 AM (0mRoj)

226 222 Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:48 AM (MQEz6)

Quite there will be 90 million American Terrorists and a bunch of newer better Muslims not on the list....

and Paul Ryan will nod sagely and congratulate us on our values.

Fuck these people, I will comply as well as illegal immigrants follow our DUI laws.

Like I tweeted at Manchin, "I am under no more duty to follow Federal law than Obama's pet illegal aliens"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:50 AM (g8Hfr)

227 215 Easy to say but hard to actually pull off in practice.
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)

And yet.... 3 guys on a French Train....
Posted by: Don Q........ at June 17, 2016 12:45 AM (qf6WZ)


But also consider the difference in circumstances - it was in a small train car, in daylight with a clear view of the shooter, with 3 friends who could see and communicate with each other, and two of which were in the military.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:50 AM (pAlYe)

228 Yes, if possible I always get the "full installation package" and save it. Hell, I can create a full installation of Windows 98 (in a VM) with the latest updates for it. If I can remember how and find all that shit. It's here somewhere.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:50 AM (DW+jj)

229 He took a choked bar and vectored people into a firing arc and likely using a single point sling used the pistol to cow people after he was bingo ammo in a mag.

This was done over a 180 minute period...he could have done this with two single action army colts.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:45 AM (g8Hfr)



was he firing for the whole time or only in the beginning?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:51 AM (AoSQU)

230 BTW, that "Japanese. Trump. Commercial." thingie in the side bar is ...

well...

... let's just say it's what I imagine an acid trip to be like. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Optimizer at June 17, 2016 12:52 AM (jPHi7)

231 207 Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM (pAlYe)

Absolutely right....add in if prepared he was killing anyone that rushed him with the glock while his MCX was out of battery....

no he cowed those people, a trained US Marine was treed enough he unassed the AO....

Mateen was good at what he did no matter how evil what he was doing was.

Obama's answer is to disarm us, and import more Omars.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:52 AM (g8Hfr)

232 I think it was ol' Jimmy Hoffa who said "Run away from a knife, but run toward a gun."

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:52 AM (DW+jj)

233 There would be nothing to stop it from being a progressive's enemies list. Nothing.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:47 AM (0mRoj)




starting to look less like they are coming for the 2nd amendment and more like they want the whole thing, well at least the first ten.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (AoSQU)

234 We fight a war and the enemy propaganda ministry is right here.

Not in Berlin or Tokyo this time, but right here.

George Will is at home counting his cash.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (MQEz6)

235 209 As I've said before... if this had been a Biker Bar, Country Bar, or Military Bar...



the results would have been different....


Nidal Hasan and Ft. Hood would disagree with this assessment.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (gyKtp)

236 229 Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:51 AM (AoSQU)

I have heard conflicting reports.

Early report said "he was calm and not shooting for 165 minutes" victims say he was asking people their national identity and voting record and shooting them while declaiming our drone war.

There's a reason the media is spinning bullshit for Obama Omar Mateen wrote a GOP commercial.

I think he was monologuing and shooting intermittently and OPD sat there and listened frankly.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (g8Hfr)

237 This may have already been mentioned, but on Twitter I'm seeing pictures of Trump supporters open carrying outside the Trump rally tonight in Dallas. Hilarious.

#trumpdallas

I don't know how everything went with the protesters but as far as I can see so far there wasn't any violence.

Posted by: stace at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (ozZau)

238 To have rushed him during a mag change would have
meant watching him while he was shooting in order to catch the second or
two of mag change and then being within 30 feet or so of him and
already on your feet, and doing all of this in a dark chaotic club with
music blaring and people screaming and running everywhere. Easy to say
but hard to actually pull off in practice.




Posted by: Maetenloch at June 17, 2016 12:43 AM



There's also the mutual support, or lack thereof, factor. You'd be going for getting a few to back you up. Alone in that situation would seem suicidal. If you're getting nothing but "you first" responses... it's taking too long.

Posted by: otho at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (EWg9n)

239 222
Once being on the list means no guns for you, they will put us all on
the list and only special cupcakes will be granted exemptions.





Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 12:48 AM (MQEz6)


And, of course, the irony of it all is that we'd love to have everyone get a 1911 with their High School Diploma -- because we trust the majority of our fellow men more than the "party of the people" do.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

240 "I was going to buy Amdro again (? Spelling) for outside ants. Amdro is either banned or discontinued"


I checked their sight and they're still well in business. Did it work for you before?

I am fine otherwise? Busy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 12:55 AM (e859L)

241 235 Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (gyKtp)

Hasan did the same thing.

He took a choked building and vectored people into arcs and then shot while reloading.

Several NCOs got shot to death rushing him with furniture.

Fuck Obama and workplace violence.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:55 AM (g8Hfr)

242 The problem with street crime and concealed carry is the criminal is not deterred by you having a firearm. They believe themselves capable of overpowering you and take the weapon, especially when there are more of them. The circle, they flank, they withdraw, they wait, because you can't shoot them, and they know it.

Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:55 AM (e7FCa)

243 233 There would be nothing to stop it from being a progressive's enemies list. Nothing.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:47 AM (0mRoj)




starting to look less like they are coming for the 2nd amendment and more like they want the whole thing, well at least the first ten.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (AoSQU)

They want power and control over us. That's what it all boils down to. And any obstruction to that goal must be removed, one way or another.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 17, 2016 12:56 AM (0mRoj)

244 I just wonder if one person had said something like "let's not die cowering, let's die fighting!" if that could have rallied enough to do it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 17, 2016 12:56 AM (DW+jj)

245 Any good quotes to ponder 'rons?
Posted by: Hillbillyking at June 16, 2016 11:47 PM (YIivD)

"Dead or alive you're coming with me."

Posted by: Blano at June 17, 2016 12:56 AM (lbcdD)

246 I think he was monologuing and shooting intermittently and OPD sat there and listened frankly.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (g8Hfr)



interesting. I would have thought that if he was shooting people, even intermittently the opd would have jumped in sooner. wonder how many were accidentally hit by on or off duty opd?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 12:57 AM (AoSQU)

247 242 Posted by: Serius Lee at June 17, 2016 12:55 AM (e7FCa)

The solution for that is shooting quick as needed.

If they are not approaching me in groups of six or more they get 2.67 shots each.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:21 AM (g8Hfr)

248 I still can't believe the guy that held the door shut so others could not flee the night club.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 17, 2016 01:25 AM (c4yY7)

249 237
#trumpdallas

I don't know how everything went with the protesters but as far as I can see so far there wasn't any violence.
Posted by: stace at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (ozZau)

Or maybe not. There's a picture of a reporter bleeding all over the sidewalk. Apparently the protesters hit the reporter with a rock. He's a reporter for the gay paper so it's a hate crime.

Other than that though, it appears an armed society is a polite society. The Trump supporters were open carrying both handguns and long guns. That's awesome.

Posted by: stace at June 17, 2016 01:27 AM (ozZau)

250 I can't help thinking there might have been a few bottles handy for throwing.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
-------------

I reiterate:

Predominantly ghey (NTTAWWT) latinos.

I mean, it's not like this was a biker bar in South Dakota.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:27 AM (jO7js)

251 Time for me to call it an early night. Out in the sun most of the day.
My get up n' go has dun got up n' went.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:55 PM

Me too Jim. Got up for a bite, but that 3 hr meeting this morn took the wind out of my sails. Been there, done that, but we had new people on board.

Just got up for a bite and and good cold cottage cheese is just fine. Sleep well yall.

Posted by: Farmer at June 17, 2016 01:28 AM (o/90i)

252
The rock musician known as Meat Loaf collapsed on stage during a concert in Edmonton, Canada, according to fans in attendance and video that captured the incident.

The singer, who was born Michael Lee Aday, is 68. He was performing his hit "I'd Do Anything for Love (But I won't Do That)" when he appeared to suffer some type of health issue and lied down during the show at Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 17, 2016 01:29 AM (kdS6q)

253 Who is Freddy Grey?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 17, 2016 01:30 AM (mTEMA)

254 "The singer, who was born Michael Lee Aday, is 68."



Well, 68. And he's not a Rolling Stone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:31 AM (e859L)

255 And we're back

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:31 AM (FYqfs)

256 Who is Freddy Grey?
Posted by: Charlie Gibson
-----------

"Was", who was Freddy Grey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:31 AM (jO7js)

257 "Who is Freddy Grey?
Posted by: Charlie Gibson"


Yo' daddy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:33 AM (e859L)

258 248 Patrick from Ohio,

Wrap your head around the person who bought Omar's ammo and drove him to kill these people not being charged...

The whole thing is a mess

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:33 AM (FYqfs)

259 Seeing Marilyn Mosby getting her ass kicked is a real hoot. Thinking of her never winning an election makes my little hands clap.

Posted by: goon at June 17, 2016 01:33 AM (WCaSy)

260 Feds were testing their shut a site down software.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 01:34 AM (MQEz6)

261 Seeing Marilyn Mosby getting her ass kicked is a real hoot. Thinking of her never winning an election makes my little hands clap.
Posted by: goon
------------

I wouldn't cheer just yet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:34 AM (jO7js)

262 246 YankeeFifth,

They either held according to some reports or were potshotting him... 3 alarm clusterfuck

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:35 AM (FYqfs)

263 235
209 As I've said before... if this had been a Biker Bar, Country Bar, or Military Bar...





the results would have been different....

Nidal Hasan and Ft. Hood would disagree with this assessment.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (gyKtp)


He didn't attack a Military Bar, where he may have faced some resistance....he attacked a Military Base where spineless Congressional dickweasels have mandated that those honorable men sworn to protect us must put aside those tools they use to do so. See, also, Chattanooga.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 01:35 AM (EzgxV)

264 Who told the FBI to back off?


Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 01:36 AM (MQEz6)

265 261 Mike Hammer,

Quite she'll win B'more's congressional seat.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:36 AM (FYqfs)

266 #trumpdallas

I don't know how everything went with the protesters but as far as I can see so far there wasn't any violence.
Posted by: stace at June 17, 2016 12:54 AM (ozZau)

Or maybe not. There's a picture of a reporter bleeding all over the sidewalk. Apparently the protesters hit the reporter with a rock. He's a reporter for the gay paper so it's a hate crime.

Other than that though, it appears an armed society is a polite society. The Trump supporters were open carrying both handguns and long guns. That's awesome.

Posted by: stace at June 17, 2016 01:27 AM (ozZau)

So one injury in a carry state, someone who was pretty obviously not carrying, vs. how many in communist Kallyfornia & other blue areas?

Posted by: Blano at June 17, 2016 01:36 AM (lbcdD)

267 So. Will Obama sic the DoJ on OPD?
--------

I know that sounds like a ridiculous question, but...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:38 AM (jO7js)

268 260
Feds were testing their shut a site down software.

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 01:34 AM (MQEz6)


The hamsters win!!! THE HAMSTERS WIN!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

269 "He didn't attack a Military Bar, where he may have faced some resistance....he attacked a Military Base where spineless Congressional dickweasels have mandated that those honorable men sworn to protect us must put aside those tools they use to do so. See, also, Chattanooga."


The insanity of a U.S. Army base. All firearms locked away unless in use for training. You train the people in the defense of the United States but can't trust them to have them in the barracks or slung over shoulder.

The thing I can't remember is why MPs didn't show up first? It was local city police that arrived and took the guy down.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:39 AM (e859L)

270 267 Mike Hammer,

No Ogabe's happy w/the outcome.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:40 AM (FYqfs)

271 "Who told the FBI to back off? "


You know.


*finger to nose*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:40 AM (e859L)

272 The hamsters win!!! THE HAMSTERS WIN!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------

Ace goes down! Ace goes down!

Posted by: Howard Cosell at June 17, 2016 01:41 AM (jO7js)

273 No Ogabe's happy w/the outcome.
Posted by: Sven10077
---

Dancing on the graves.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:42 AM (jO7js)

274 with street crime and concealed carry is the criminal is not deterred by you having a firearm. They believe themselves capable of overpowering you and take the weapon, especially when there are more of them. The circle, they flank, they withdraw, they wait, because you can't shoot them, and they know it.
Posted by: Serius Lee

***

You don't think when they started getting shot at, they'd realize that they should look for easier victims? Do muggers usually organize on the scale of large gangs? Any stats you care to share?

Posted by: Steve and Cold bear at June 17, 2016 01:42 AM (ZR1fB)

275 The thing I can't remember is why MPs didn't show up first? It was local city police that arrived and took the guy down.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
---------------

Workplace violence not their bag.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:43 AM (jO7js)

276 thanks Sven



night everyone

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2016 01:43 AM (AoSQU)

277 269 Ricardo Kill,

Eh it was a civil service security police member....

The Donks expanded civil service cops and there are too few mps to do all the work.

At Ft Polk they were....G4S contractors back when they were called wackenhut as gate guards.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:43 AM (FYqfs)

278 "Ace goes down! Ace goes down!"

Foreman was a bad man. A bad man.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:44 AM (e859L)

279 At Ft Polk they were....G4S contractors back when they were called wackenhut as gate guards.
Posted by: Sven
---------------

I recall being shocked when I found civilians manning the gates at Dobbins AFB.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2016 01:45 AM (jO7js)

280 263 >> He didn't attack a Military Bar, where he may have faced some resistance...

Posted by: cthulhu

It's a comparable circumstance though. A large group of unarmed people vs. one guy with guns.

It took an off base cop to put him down.

Gay latinos, military personnel -- same result.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 01:46 AM (gyKtp)

281 Good to see someone was standing by with hamster sized jumper cables.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 17, 2016 01:50 AM (T/cxb)

282 279 Mike Hammer,

A parting gift from Colon Bowell back during Bush 41...he greatly reduced active component combat support services in BRAC 1 to "prevent more Vietnam's" shifting what remained to the guard reserve...to have any 95Bs to deploy they stripped the garrisons.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:50 AM (FYqfs)

283 "Eh it was a civil service security police member...."


Okay, okay. I remember that. Not city police. A contractor on base, that's right. But don't I remember that city police were responding?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 01:52 AM (e859L)

284 Sgt Mark Todd was a DOD Civilian cop

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:53 AM (FYqfs)

285 280
263 >> He didn't attack a Military Bar, where he may have faced some resistance...

Posted by: cthulhu

It's a comparable circumstance though. A large group of unarmed people vs. one guy with guns.

It took an off base cop to put him down.

Gay latinos, military personnel -- same result.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 17, 2016 01:46 AM (gyKtp)


OK, let's return to the "issued a 1911 with your High School diploma" scenario.

I mean, I could go into the free-range gun-free hunting park nature of a disarmed military base, vs. the confined quarters of a dance club or airplane cabin....but let's focus on the most important deciding factor: in a perfect world, EVERYBODY WOULD BE ARMED -- not just jihadis, criminals, or the mentally ill. Because there are a lot more non-jihadis, non-criminals, and sane people -- and you'd know the jihadis, criminals, and mental cases would be outgunned.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 01:55 AM (EzgxV)

286 >> and you'd know the jihadis, criminals, and mental cases
>> would be outgunned.

And they'd know it in advance, which is the important part.

Posted by: JEM at June 17, 2016 01:57 AM (o+SC1)

287 Heh....

Went on a photo assignment today - not my primary gig, but one of my many, many side-gigs - for a dude what wanted some cool new pics for his social media presence.

(yeah, I only shoot film, and the guy knew this, but said he wanted that, so he could get some good prints made and framed.)

Anywho, I show up at his place and start unpacking my gear and he sees, down in my camera case, that I've got, next to my camera and flash and film-backs, a CZ52.

'Cool piece, dude,' he says.

Yeah, the shoot went really well after that. Him and his partner, in formal portrait poses (all low-key, high-contrast b&w, per his specs), with their various - and sometimes amazing - firearms.

Dude paid me cash, tipped me with a bottle of bourbon and box of tokarev ammo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 01:57 AM (lutOX)

288 283 Ricardo Kill,

Yes Killeen PD deployed to the perimeter to free DOD cops up to ingress the building,

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 01:58 AM (FYqfs)

289 "Yes Killeen PD deployed to the perimeter to free DOD cops up to ingress the building,"


Okay, there we go.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 02:00 AM (e859L)

290 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640941/

Hopefully one group of humans will string up the other group of humans and the whole place will collapse, but in the meantime how do we get the dog out before someone eats him?

Posted by: JEM at June 17, 2016 02:00 AM (o+SC1)

291 Wait - what?
Is something happening in Killeen?

I just checked in - and am now cornfused...

Posted by: but enough about you - I wanna talk about Chi at June 17, 2016 02:09 AM (8zcJM)

292 Slow around here tonight.

I had to go check whether someone was wiping a premature Early Morning Thread out of their underwear.

Posted by: JEM at June 17, 2016 02:10 AM (o+SC1)

293 287
Heh....



Went on a photo assignment today - not my primary gig, but one of my
many, many side-gigs - for a dude what wanted some cool new pics for
his social media presence.



(yeah, I only shoot film, and the guy knew this, but said he wanted that, so he could get some good prints made and framed.)



Anywho, I show up at his place and start unpacking my gear and he
sees, down in my camera case, that I've got, next to my camera and flash
and film-backs, a CZ52.



'Cool piece, dude,' he says.



Yeah, the shoot went really well after that. Him and his partner, in
formal portrait poses (all low-key, high-contrast bw, per his
specs), with their various - and sometimes amazing - firearms.



Dude paid me cash, tipped me with a bottle of bourbon and box of tokarev ammo.

Posted by: Palps at June 17, 2016 01:57 AM (lutOX)


Nice -- especially the tokarev ammo. Can you get CZ52 food at Walmart?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:11 AM (EzgxV)

294 291 shredded chi,

No no we were discussing Major Hasan

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 17, 2016 02:12 AM (FYqfs)

295 Ok. Thanks sven.
I will read back a bit. Now somewhat reassured.

Did I miss anything really great tonight?
(I already perused most of the content)

Posted by: but enough about you - I wanna talk about Chi at June 17, 2016 02:15 AM (8zcJM)

296 "I had to go check whether someone was wiping a premature Early Morning Thread out of their underwear."


*Checks self.*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 02:19 AM (e859L)

297 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640941/

Hopefully one group of humans will string up the other group of humans and the whole place will collapse, but in the meantime how do we get the dog out before someone eats him?

Posted by: JEM at June 17, 2016 02:00 AM (o+SC1)


The "Let them eat cake" quote: "Should we stop enjoying ourselves just because the country is burning?"

Some mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCBVZHrstE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u06DpcFXc4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ll1-yV8YSw

Posted by: The Hat o' Fire at June 17, 2016 02:19 AM (vBeA5)

298 "CZ52. "

Never. Wrong. With a CZ.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 02:20 AM (e859L)

299 Nice -- especially the tokarev ammo. Can you get CZ52 food at Walmart?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:11 AM (EzgxV)
***
Nope. Wish like Hell I could. And, yeah, the ammo was the kicker - I gave the guy a stack of my cards, and told him to write his name on the back, so I'd know to give his friends a discount.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 02:23 AM (lutOX)

300 Just had a drunk walk down the street shouting 'USA! USA!' Don't hear that very often here in grand ol' hysteric Jackson Heights. Mostly it's the Colombians celebrating late into the night, driving around in car caravans honking loudly.

In case one doesn't know what I'm talking about, the US beat Ecuador in the first Copa America quarterfinal match tonight, 2-1.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2016 02:28 AM (0JSRZ)

301 298
"CZ52. "



Never. Wrong. With a CZ.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 17, 2016 02:20 AM (e859L)


CZ's are quality munitions. My shooting buddy and I frequently put a CZ75 Tactical Sports (me) against a CZ P-01 (him). We both shot well, but being 20-years younger, he frequently shot better.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:31 AM (EzgxV)

302 300 Just had a drunk walk down the street shouting 'USA! USA!'
------------------
It wasn't me this time, I swear.
I'm at home making sausage, egg & cheese sammiches for "breakfast."

Posted by: but enough about you - I wanna talk about Chi at June 17, 2016 02:32 AM (8zcJM)

303
299
Nice -- especially the tokarev ammo. Can you get CZ52 food at Walmart?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:11 AM (EzgxV)

***

Nope. Wish like Hell I could. And, yeah, the ammo was the kicker - I
gave the guy a stack of my cards, and told him to write his name on the
back, so I'd know to give his friends a discount.

Posted by: Palpy at June 17, 2016 02:23 AM (lutOX)


Yeah, regular 9mm....nice to have around.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

304 So if dipshits think that changing the constitution is such a great idea. Then start with the first. It's freedom of speech that allowed these imams to inflame their minions to kill. It's freedom of religion that allowed these same imams to preach their hate. Along with the rest of their blind sheep on the Internet. So if you really think changing the constitution is the answer, then get to the root cause and change it. Yes I'm being facetious of course. But as ridiculous as it sounds, it's just as ridiculous to start trying to take away other rights. But once we head back down that road we automatically invite tyranny for an optical illusion of safety.

This POS broke how many laws, yet were led to believe that had he not been able to buy guns legally that he would have given up his cause? Someone willing to die would be that uncommitted as to not get them another way? Nonsense. Gun control is a lazy argument. It's a tangible easy fix. But it's false and will do nothing. But then we can move on the next thing to ban.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2016 02:35 AM (aZxzS)

305 302
300 Just had a drunk walk down the street shouting 'USA! USA!'

------------------

It wasn't me this time, I swear.

I'm at home making sausage, egg cheese sammiches for "breakfast."



Posted by: but enough about you - I wanna talk about Chi at June 17, 2016 02:32 AM (8zcJM)


Wouldn't that be "sausage, egg, and Chi's sammiches"?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:36 AM (EzgxV)

306 Yeah, regular 9mm....nice to have around.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:34 AM (EzgxV)
***
Oh, I've got a 9mm, but it's by no means my go-to-gun.

Beretta 92, a thing of beauty, but too darned big and spendy to stash in a camera case.

(And I do recommend that all who are in the photo business make a point of having something, anything, handy at all times. I schlep around probably $2K to $3K worth of gear when I go on a shoot; people know that photo gear is worth a lot of dough, and there are some who will try to take it from you. Hasn't happened to me, because I make a point of meeting all clients in a neutral, public place before taking any assignment.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 02:41 AM (lutOX)

307 Apropos of absolutely nothin' -- I am amazed that the British EU clingers are willing to try and delay a vote "based on some random MP killing".



We all know it's based on Brexit polling. We all saw fraudulent elections in and expect fraudulent elections out. The EU is doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed -- the more they try to keep people in, the more it will look like a Gulag....and the more likely folks in Brussels will face the guillotine rather than mere public shame and ridicule.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:41 AM (EzgxV)

308 Wouldn't that be "sausage, egg, and Chi's sammiches"?
Posted by: cthulhu
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Well played, Wise One. Well played.


I should be asleep already. Court date tomorrow...

Posted by: American Chi at June 17, 2016 02:42 AM (PvT6i)

309 306
Yeah, regular 9mm....nice to have around.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

***

Oh, I've got a 9mm, but it's by no means my go-to-gun.



Beretta 92, a thing of beauty, but too darned big and spendy to stash in a camera case.



(And I do recommend that all who are in the photo business make a
point of having something, anything, handy at all times. I schlep
around probably $2K to $3K worth of gear when I go on a shoot; people
know that photo gear is worth a lot of dough, and there are some who
will try to take it from you. Hasn't happened to me, because I make a
point of meeting all clients in a neutral, public place before taking
any assignment.)

Posted by: Palps at June 17, 2016 02:41 AM (lutOX)


When we visited Saint Petersburg and hired a guide, he took us through one of the rougher sections of town.....and everyone got to observe people focusing on camera gear. We had good security, situational awareness, and moved quickly -- and had no losses....but it was obvious where attention was oriented.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:47 AM (EzgxV)

310 cthulhu: Wouldn't that be "sausage, egg, and Chi's sammiches"?

HAH! Now I can quit lurking and go to bed.

Posted by: mindful webworker - needed the :lol: at June 17, 2016 02:47 AM (K/p7v)

311 308
Wouldn't that be "sausage, egg, and Chi's sammiches"?

Posted by: cthulhu

------------------

Well played, Wise One. Well played.





I should be asleep already. Court date tomorrow...

Posted by: American Chi at June 17, 2016 02:42 AM (PvT6i)


Good luck!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

312 Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:47 AM (EzgxV)
***
Yep. Had one possible gig that was just too 'hinky' for me. Chick said she wanted a shoot with her girlfriend, and the whole damned thing just stunk of 'honey-trap.' Wouldn't even meet me at the local PD, which is always a bad sign.

But, yeah, people know that cameras and all their accessories are high-dollar items, with a ready market.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 02:53 AM (lutOX)

313 Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 02:41 AM (EzgxV)

How much is due to ideology and how much comes from the scale of things?

A great many big and heavy things are held up by skinny sticks and bad string.

One snap, one snip, watch out!

Posted by: eman at June 17, 2016 02:59 AM (MQEz6)

314 *** Pokes thread with the toe of his shoe. No movement***

***Turns thread over onto its back, takes its shoes, wallet, and watch.***

***Ponders the large fillings he sees, then reaches for his channel-lock pliers.***

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 03:31 AM (lutOX)

315 *** Pokes thread with the toe of his shoe. No movement***

***Turns thread over onto its back, takes its shoes, wallet, and watch.***

***Ponders the large fillings he sees, then reaches for his channel-lock pliers.***

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 03:31 AM (lutOX)


***Strikes***

Posted by: The Thread at June 17, 2016 03:31 AM (vBeA5)

316 Brand new Postmodern Jukebox "Black Hole Sun":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=291&v=R6RD6mjiIZE

This is really good.

Looking forward to seeing them live in October. I already have my ticket.

Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2016 03:33 AM (sdi6R)

317 Ride, Sally, Ride !!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 17, 2016 03:37 AM (AoK0a)

318 Posted by: The Thread at June 17, 2016 03:31 AM (vBeA5)
***
heh...actually had a dude what had his eye on my angel dare to tag along with us one evening, and, sure enough, this POS ended up drunk and passed out on my kitchen floor.

And, yes, I took his cash and other valuables before giving him raccoon eyes with a black Sharpie and depositing him in the back seat of his car.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 17, 2016 03:37 AM (lutOX)

319 Brand new Postmodern Jukebox "Black Hole Sun":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=291&v=R6RD6mjiIZE

This is really good.

Looking forward to seeing them live in October. I already have my ticket.

Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2016 03:33 AM (sdi6R)


Good, but the best Soundgarden cover is still Johnny Cash's cover of "Rusty Cage"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtbuUlSGXzc

Posted by: The Rusty Hat at June 17, 2016 03:38 AM (vBeA5)

320 If I told you that you had a beautiful burrito, would you hold it against me?

Posted by: Michael Moore at June 17, 2016 03:42 AM (Yq8TA)

321 Types

Deletes.

(Insert socially acceptable comment you agree with here.

Have a Day.

Types

Deletes.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 03:43 AM (WVsWD)

322 A Progressive Parable:

http://politicalhat.com/?p=11983

Posted by: The Parable Hat at June 17, 2016 03:46 AM (vBeA5)

323 (Insert socially acceptable comment you agree with here.

Here ya go ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sociable Critic ... at June 17, 2016 03:51 AM (AoK0a)

324 Yikes! How did it get so late?!!?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 03:52 AM (EzgxV)

325 Yikes! How did it get so late?!!?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 03:52 AM (EzgxV)


Linear time is just a social construct...

Posted by: A Gallifreyan Hippie at June 17, 2016 03:53 AM (vBeA5)

326 Posted by: Adriane the Sociable Critic ... at June 17, 2016 03:51 AM (AoK0a)

God Morning to you.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 03:54 AM (WVsWD)

327 Haley Reinhart. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

Here's Paul Anka's version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEjGgkRbuxI
I heard this while at Olive Garden, and before I knew what it was, I wondered why I knew the cryptic lyrics.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 17, 2016 03:55 AM (VdICR)

328 Never knew Billy Squier was laid low by one crappy video.

I could only get through about one minute. Yikes the 80's were bad.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2016 04:01 AM (qUNWi)

329 Types

Deletes.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois.


Think of "it" as the joke so dangerously funny that it can only be told one word at a time.

Not that I'm suggesting anything untoward this close to Pixy's hamsters going their box for some shuteye ...

Posted by: Adriane the All I Needed to Know, I Learned from Monty Python Critic ... at June 17, 2016 04:01 AM (AoK0a)

330 Black Hole Sun
Won't you come.
The guys get shirts.
Don't make a maniac out of me.

Posted by: Paul Anka at June 17, 2016 04:04 AM (VdICR)

331 A jazz cover of Black Hole Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdHxL25L9_c

Posted by: Hatgarden at June 17, 2016 04:05 AM (vBeA5)

332 328
Never knew Billy Squier was laid low by one crappy video.



I could only get through about one minute. Yikes the 80's were bad.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2016 04:01 AM (qUNWi)


The thing is -- he was flying so high before that video....and then *fooomp* nothing.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 04:07 AM (EzgxV)

333 Night all.

The ultimate cover of "Black Hole Sun" by Richard Cheese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX2fKzXxO40

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 17, 2016 04:07 AM (vBeA5)

334 PMJ's upcoming tour dates, in case you're interested:

http://postmodernjukebox.com/events/

That's a pretty aggressive schedule. They have more energy than I do, but then again, they're younger than me.

Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2016 04:10 AM (sdi6R)

335 They have more energy than I do, but then again, they're younger than me.

Youth is wasted on the young ...
: -(

But it sounds like it'll be a funky doodle concert!

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 17, 2016 04:37 AM (AoK0a)

336 Again, and alas, the sidebar about reversing Alzheimer's appears to be overstated. One of the researchers is selling "immersion therapy" at $7500 for four days. Links in previous thread.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 04:44 AM (EzgxV)

337 I always get here when the night crew calls it, oh well.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 04:48 AM (d9qXV)

338 337
I always get here when the night crew calls it, oh well.

Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 04:48 AM (d9qXV)


Good morning. Did you remember to bring bagels?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 17, 2016 04:51 AM (EzgxV)

339 I have English muffins to go with my 5 minute oatmeal with raisins and cinnamon.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 04:58 AM (d9qXV)

340 Pop tart and Orange juice break comes around 9am.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:01 AM (d9qXV)

341 Pop tart and Orange juice break comes around 9am.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:01 AM (d9qXV)


So, second breakfast. You're really a Hobbit, aren't you?

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2016 05:20 AM (0JSRZ)

342 Mornin'

Wakey wakey eggs & bakey!


Billy Squier was in a pretty good band called Piper before he hit it big as a solo performer. I saw him on his very first solo tour- he had been added as a last minute opening- opening act to some show I went to (headliner lost to the mists of time.) I think "The Stroke" had just hit the charts so his label found a tour to toss him onto. He barely had enough material for a 40-minute set so he was still doing a few Piper tunes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at June 17, 2016 05:21 AM (WlGX+)

343 I'm thinking about going back to Koolige. Get a degree in Criminology. I do have some training already but I would like to complete it.

I do have a mostly free eddukatsion coming from the state of Illinois.

One central theme remains the same with any criminal investigation. The vast majority of cases are solved when the criminal makes a mistake.

This can also apply to other situations as well. Just sit back and wait for the figure of your mystery make a mistake. Sometimes a bit of gentle prodding can speed up the time frame. You have to careful with that prodding though, lest you turn your target away.

Something else that stands out with LEO's. That vast majority of unsolved cases remain that way because of how good the seen of the crime was cleaned up.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 05:22 AM (WVsWD)

344 Listen to the whole Billy S. Interview.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:23 AM (d9qXV)

345 Heck with Billy S.

I want Stuck on Stupid to come back and give us an update on Che-boy and his antics.

That was some fun stuff!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 05:27 AM (WVsWD)

346 Tim in Illinois if your going to back to college make sure you have the whole experience. Grievance sit ins, safe spaces, outrage rantings with a loud speaker. Make sure you do it all up right.
Get a few Bernie shirts before their gone too.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:29 AM (d9qXV)

347 Good morning everyone!

Super glue for dopping stones is so far working out better than I would have expected it to. The longer I allow the glue to set, the stronger the bond. For instance, when transferring my test stone, the glue had not fully cured until an hour had passed, and it took another hour with super glue remover to free the crown dop.

Transfer takes longer than wax, but the stone/dop joint is much stronger. I was planning on experimenting with epoxy too...but I don't think I'll even bother now. Super glue works too well. So, I'll finish this stone up, then cut an 80+ carat chunk of lilac colored CZ in this design:

http://tinyurl.com/2dk8ak

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 17, 2016 05:30 AM (L1Xf4)

348 I have been drinking hot coffee since 1981, detest it cold and will toss it first. It's not what is going to kill me.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:31 AM (d9qXV)

349 This one is three and a half years old. How long does tinyurl last?

http://tinyurl.com/aqt3c8j

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 05:34 AM (WVsWD)

350 Got to run, have to be a work by 6am
Stay safe all.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:34 AM (d9qXV)

351 Drive safe, Skip ...

Good Night, all ...

Happy Friday & all it entails.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 17, 2016 05:45 AM (AoK0a)

352 There's hot and then there's hot. Some types of cancer can result from frequent repeated trauma, like overly hot liquids that may not cause immediate injury. This is the basis for the cancer potential. It doesn't really matter what the liquid is. It could be plain water. Coffee just happens to be the most common hot drink for much of the world.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 05:47 AM (IdCqF)

353 Coffee just happens to be the most common hot drink for much of the world.

Cultural Imperialist!!!!!

Posted by: Yak Milk Tea Drinkers, Local 295 ... at June 17, 2016 05:50 AM (AoK0a)

354 Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2016 05:29 AM (d9qXV)

Beg pardon Skip. Didn't see your post until now. Was brosing an old thread wondering where some of my favorites have gone.

Drive safe and don't work too hard.

If I go back I plan on hijacking the small cell of blm'ers that exist at U of I. All I need now is a pencil stache above my lip.

And..................................................
Change my last name to King.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 05:54 AM (WVsWD)

355 #343

In 1999 I spent several months doing IT stuff for a police department in a small Los Angeles County city near Pasadena. My conversations with detectives suggested that 90% of their time was dealing with stupid people and the remaining time was for a much smaller group of smart people committing crimes. One smart crook could eat up as much time as dozen of stupid crooks.

OTOH, a lot of thugs imported from third world hellholes have a lot of lead exposure growing up, making them suited for little else than being thugs controlled by someone much more cognitively functional. So much of what those cops had to do may have been dealing with smart crooks by proxy.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 05:55 AM (IdCqF)

356 Richard Cheese sounds like Bruce Campbell:

https://youtu.be/Yg6bZSM48vU

Just a regular quiet night at home for him of course.

Posted by: Paul Anka at June 17, 2016 05:58 AM (VdICR)

357 Sock off.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 17, 2016 06:01 AM (VdICR)

358 Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 05:55 AM (IdCqF)

The 90% would be those that commit the most mistakes that lead to the case being solved.

The 10% would be those that cleaned up best.

"One smart crook could eat up as much time as dozen of stupid crooks."

Absolutely correct.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 06:02 AM (WVsWD)

359 #304

The same people who will tell you what a pathetic failure the war on drugs has been actually think making firearms illegal will make them unobtainable. That somehow a centuries old technology can be somehow made to disappear while at the same time the technology for doing complex manufacturing in a basement is just emerging.

At some point in the next decade or so there is going to be a lot of arguing in Congress over how to limit what people can make in their garage with a few thousand bucks of equipment and the right data file. A savvy person can do quite a lot now but this is going to enable people with little or none of the currently needed skills and thus make it much harder to spot a potential source.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 06:08 AM (IdCqF)

360 They are still predicting the temps to hit the 100s this weekend and the high 100s on Monday. Shoot me now...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:09 AM (iQIUe)

361 But it's a dry heat?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 17, 2016 06:11 AM (L1Xf4)

362 Wo ist Wenck? Wo ist Steiner? Wo ist Vic?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 06:18 AM (WVsWD)

363 #359 - I hate to break this to you, but I heard someone on MSNBC breathlessly report with a tone of impending doom that "Some people have the capability of 3D printing guns."

Posted by: vivi at June 17, 2016 06:20 AM (11H2y)

364 #359 --- and now that I think of it, I remember years ago learning that some Iron Curtain country had outlawed typewriters....made it illegal to own one privately. I remember thinking at the time how stupid that sounded. How much you want to bet someone will suggest policing private ownership of 3D printers?

Posted by: vivi at June 17, 2016 06:22 AM (11H2y)

365 Yeah, weather in LA County is supposed to be pretty awful towards the end of the weekend and next week. June had been quick mild thus far, with one small heat wave.

I know summer has arrived when I drape a towel over the back of my desk chair to catch the sweat coming off of me. The mini-heat wave a while back fooled me into put it on early but it looks like it's going to see some use. Though I'll probably try to spend more time downstairs with the laptop if I don't need the desktop machine's power.

We hate to turn on the AC because we're so concerned about running up a bill but with my elderly mother in the house there may not be much choice. Extremes of heat and cold are big threats to old people.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 06:23 AM (IdCqF)

366 Muslim who said 9/11 changed the world for good, has denigrated the US and free speeches is on Homeland Security Advisory Council.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zvwkzvd

Obama is a enable of radical Islam.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2016 06:25 AM (rmw+9)

367 Turtles and Snakes. Turtles and Snakes. If you get the reference you probably are not a progtard.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 06:27 AM (WVsWD)

368 Obama's war on terrorism is bringing as many America hating muslims as possible. And the GOP is good with it. It is part of the Muslim Brotherhood plan to take over.

https://goo.gl/Nc05CV

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:29 AM (iQIUe)

369 No VNN?

Posted by: wing at June 17, 2016 06:29 AM (Ohl7S)

370 are y'all getting the over the top dramatics from your weather casters regarding their descriptions of the conditions they describe? It is steamy, feels like, heat index, miserable and on and on? Give me the weather please. With actual data. I don't need a model in a studio telling me how I'm going to 'feel' about weather.

Posted by: DanMan at June 17, 2016 06:29 AM (ILsxp)

371
They have now denied that the murder of the MP, Jo Cox, had anything to do with politics.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:31 AM (iQIUe)

372 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:31 AM (iQIUe)

How much damage was done? My favorite Brexit Blog did not post anything yesterday because of it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 06:32 AM (WVsWD)

373 I doubt any damage was done. People have made up their minds already and the polls say that Leave is widely favored.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:34 AM (iQIUe)

374
BREAKING!

I have found video of Ace getting a sponge bath:

https://goo.gl/iNAxQT

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 17, 2016 06:36 AM (iQIUe)

375 I need a 4th and 5th cup of Coffee.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 17, 2016 06:38 AM (WVsWD)

376 #363

Yeah, there's been some very premature idiocy, aided by moronic lefty TV shows like 'The Good Wife.' My mother and sister loved that show even though it was deeply insulting to anyone who actually knew anything about the material they were basing their plot devices on. (Plus it really annoyed me when they had an episode where everyone is playing Halo while waiting for election results. The problem is they were all holding PS4 controllers.)

But this stuff is moving along toward becoming real in terms of letting somebody with none of the skills associated with 'makers' to produce items that would cause alarm. Not just machining but things like chemical synthesis. The base elements for some very nasty stuff cannot possibly be controlled and an affordable desktop appliance that snaps together those elements to make the desired molecule means the effort for a disturbed individual to wreak great destruction is hugely reduced.

I have no doubt they do stuff like what happens with high end printers if you try to reproduce paper currency. (This is less of an issue now that most nations are moving away from using a single substance derived from natural fibers in their currency.) They will typically place a very noticeable flaw in the output or simply refuse to do the job. Early maker machines will refuse to produce certain molecules but once the hardware becomes sufficiently common, how hard will it be to hack together a version without those limitations? There was always that one guy in the neighborhood you could go to to get your game console hacked so it would play pirated games.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 17, 2016 06:39 AM (IdCqF)

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