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The Left's Inexorable, Inflexible desire to Enslave. [krakatoa]
**BUMPED BY Y-NOT**
Aside from rote lip-service, the Left, and the quislings on the Right, are not interested in your health, your lives, or your liberty. Their only truly animating interest is in their own elevated positions and ego. Nothing strokes one's ego more than forcing someone else to do something they don't wish to do, except maybe forcing someone to do something they don't want to do and then get endless flattering press for it. As always in our country and throughout the history of civilizations, the ratchet driven by activists grinds almost unfailingly in the direction of empowering the State to dominate its people.Curtailing first non-enumerated rights such as the ability to simply speak plainly via the creation of cultural stigma for holding opinions or manners of speech that only yesterday were commonplace and common-sense; and then turning that stigma into mob retaliation vis-a-vis getting people fired from their jobs, or outright violence in the streets aimed at people attending political rallies.
Once certain thoughts and often seemingly insignificant liberties have been essentially criminalized, they move on to attacking those concrete rights that were once presumed unassailable, but have entered the realm of "polite debate" by a compliant populace too interested in maintaining some level of nonconfrontational comfort to strenuously object to every inch requested by the so-called "moderates". Inches that in the rear-view mirror turn out to be miles and miles of forgotten or forsaken liberties. Make no mistake: The never-ending litany for "compromise" requested on gun control does not come close to masking the goal of gun prohibition. They want you disarmed, and cultural inertia has made them less and less reticent to proclaim it. Assuredly, every step away from our Founder's intentions is framed by its proponents in terms of saving lives, or ensuring some liberty for some defined cohort. Their duplicitous nature is revealed when those exact arguments are dismissed when offered in service of a liberty or cohort the Left isn't championing, such as the rights of the unborn, the health concerns of a populace whose borders are overrun with the non-vaccinated and/or no small number of violent criminals, the freedom of a landowner to manage one's property, et cetera. And so it goes: Yet another mass murder that could have been prevented simply by maintaining the the laws on the books and the remedies at hand, all ignored or torn down like Chesterton's theoretical fence without truly comprehending the consequences. Or worse, with full comprehension of the consequences, but utilizing a brutal calculus that values the creation more voters for the next election more highly than the long term health and security of one's nation & citizens. Never trust any legislation proposed in response to the acts of the madman or the thuggish practitioner of a 7th century violent religion. I would go further: If in response to a situation like this our government should pass legislation that rolls back such an essential liberty of otherwise law-abiding citizens as the right to keep and bear arms, those reasonable people have the inherent right to refuse to comply and to resist as peaceably as possible. And if it becomes impossible to resist peacefully, any blood spilled will be on the hands of those who decided by any rationale to trade said liberty for peace in the first place. A people whose only powers, liberties & remedies are those strictly defined by the State is not a free people at all.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 04:48 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 04:49 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro Women's Health Clinic at June 16, 2016 04:49 PM (ucB75)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 04:49 PM (rlfds)
Politico Breaking: Group of GOP senators trying for bipartisan guns compromise
Kelly Ayotte
Susan Collins
Jeff Flake
https://tinyurl.com/hqogcx4
With a name like Smuckers, you know it's got to be good!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 04:50 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 16, 2016 04:50 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (d9qXV)
The love of money is not the root of all evil.
The love of controlling and ruling over other people is the root of all evil.
~Thats a Fixer original.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (8XRCm)
Those are, literally, fightin' words.
Is it 1775 all over again?
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (jBuUi)
Never trust any legislation proposed in response to the acts of the madman or the thuggish practitioner of a 7th century violent religion.
Also never trust any legislation named after or, even worse, has an idiotic acronym that spells out the name of a victim of a crime.
Apparently Obama is at the memorial blaming Republicans directly.
Well.
As a queer conservative, that is a direct homophobic attack on me. I demand that the DOJ bring civil rights charges against Obama for such hate speech.
I'm. Not. Kidding.
Not my rules.
Not my game.
But if this is how we're playing?
Bring it, bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
Its kinda funny how no GOPer has ever gone to the blacks and other members of the libtard base and said
"These guys have promised to make your lives better. For generations they've said they'd lift you up. But the only ones who get lifted up are the Clintons, and Sharptons, and Obamas, while you settle for scraps."
Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Killerdog at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (rAsP5)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 16, 2016 04:52 PM (wo8gY)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 04:52 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 04:52 PM (P/kVC)
Just referred to gay nightclub as place 'kids are supposed to be'.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 16, 2016 04:52 PM (ZnIt3)
It could have been him on the other side of that Glory Hole.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:53 PM (oeOT+)
There was much wetting of pants and mass bannings (including me) at Hot Flatus back in 2010 for using the word "revolution" whilst posting.
Oh, to relive those carefree days of yore.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:53 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2016 04:54 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2016 04:54 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:54 PM (Ozsfq)
madman or the thuggish practitioner of a 7th century violent religion.
Yes, I am SO tired of legislators who want to outlaw tragedy. I'm talking about the people who freak out when someone dies in a freak accident and they start screaming "This shouldn't have happened - we'll make it illegal!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 04:54 PM (NOIQH)
"I swear... if you cum in my mouth again... that will be it for you, Buster!"
Posted by: jwest at June 16, 2016 04:54 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: mst3k at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (1+fVB)
When the Obama and the DOJ sought to impose restroom laws (for crying out loud) on the rest of the country, the congress should have publicly tarred and feathered him. Even though this was a minor issue, it was a sharp stick in the eye to the 10 amendment, one of a myriad.
We are well and truly screwed if this shit isn't fixed.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
@POTUS in Orlando: "Those who defend the easy accessibility of assault weapons should meet these families."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (kdS6q)
Leftist: we demand 100%
Conservative: No, 0%
Leftist: Ok lets compromise at 50%
Conservative: OK
later...
Leftist: We demand 100%
Conservative: no, 50%
Leftist: OK let's compromise, 75%....
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
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krakatoa is a blind Ewok too??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Lauren at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (6d5Md)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: IP at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (aQQbl)
Posted by: mst3k at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (1+fVB)
I am so fuckin sick of hearing about gay and guns.
I am ready to explode
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (Ozsfq)
This is what we need to start proclaiming in public no matter how much it wilts the little snowflakes' sensibilities.
Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: mst3k at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (1+fVB)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (d9qXV)
Recall that Fast and Furious was Obama's attempt to cause mass gun violence south of the border in order to change public opinion about the second amendment on this side of the border.
It failed, and then we had Fort Hood, San Bernardino and Orlando, plus icing on the cake with Newtown and Aurora.
He knew who the Muzzies were and what they wanted to do. He sat on his hands and let it happen in order to destroy the 2nd Amendment.
T R E A S O N
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (/tuJf)
You can say the again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (Ozsfq)
Bring'em on out to the Range.
Sounds like they could use an introduction to firearms and self defense.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: Soona
Not Ace.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (p2X2f)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (l513m)
Knew the asshole was a problem, failed to stop the attack, and now wants to potentially put any of us on a list, take away liberty & private property, and offer no recourse.
I'd call that tyranny.
Posted by: willy at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ffw22)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
Sounds like they could use an introduction to firearms and self defense.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (oeOT+)
Old and busted - Take Your Daughters to Work Day
New hotness - Take Your Fags to the Range Day
(no disrespect)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (ovir2)
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Lauren at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (6d5Md)
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Oh. My. Gawd.
Thats. HORRIBLE.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (B48dK)
Screw that. I've heard these people and i could get a lobotomy and still out think them.
Posted by: adampm at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (rEGRF)
Sounds like Obama's getting out ahead of more attacks that the Administration must know are coming...
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (n/0Nw)
If this one ever pans out, he'll blame it on fossil fuels:
http://tinyurl.com/hdo8soh
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
Tell me and I can interpolate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Colin at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (3skdc)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (n/0Nw)
legislation that rolls back such an essential liberty of otherwise
law-abiding citizens as the right to keep and bear arms, those
reasonable people have the inherent right to refuse to comply and to
resist as peaceably as possible.
And if it becomes impossible to resist
peacefully, any blood spilled will be on the hands of those who decided
by any rationale to trade said liberty for peace in the first place.
===================================================
I pray that we may resolve this issue via paragraph one. I fear we will see paragraph two unfold instead.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (dFi94)
We condemn next weeks terror attack and wish to reiterate that it has nothing to do with the peaceful religion of peace.
Posted by: CAIR at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (ZnIt3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (p4UlV)
But them Ace might ban you...well I mean after he can see again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (Ozsfq)
And Barack Hussein doesn't think any-not even one family member of the killed or maimed-says "Maybe it's not a good idea to stop investigating potential Islamic terrorists because to mention jihad and Islam might hurt feelings?"
They probably screened any he met with to winnow out any undesirable opinions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (rmw+9)
Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 04:58 PM (Ozsfq)
Interpretive Dance has its merits.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: Tree of Liberty Irrigation Company at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (nspJC)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (p2X2f)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Colin at June 16, 2016 04:59 PM (3skdc)
It goes perfectly with the 300 million corpses they made over the last century.
Makes a nice collection.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (p4UlV)
I think you're forgetting the pizza joint owners in OH who had to literally go into hiding in fear for their lives - for essentially saying they wouldn't want to involve themselves in a specific bit of biologically-nonsensical law couched as "equality".
Posted by: Optimizer at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (jPHi7)
Their MSM is as bad or worse than ours
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Open Blogger at 04:51 PM
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+1
Posted by: MTF at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (/m8T6)
I am NOT a gay Muslim! And there is No Such Thing as an Islamic Terrorist!!1!
Posted by: Barky Hussien at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (25+/B)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs_relocating_to_more_rural_area_asap at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (gUoN4)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 05:02 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (oeOT+)
You'd be surprised at how many already are. I'm good friends with a lesbian couple (they're also members at the deer camp I go to). Last month I was privy to a discussion they were having over whether to buy another AR or a pistol caliber carbine.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 05:02 PM (GUBah)
Please explain to me how these were "homegrown" when these are people from immigrant families, raised within the culture from their families country of origin, who also *travel to Saudi Arabia*. They are not picking up their hate at the local Memorial Day parade and football half-time show - they're getting it from the people and institutions touting non-American culture. That these two men grew up in America seems incidental - they might as well have grown up in the UK, Australia, Sweden, wherever - they were raised in a ME cultured environment.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 05:02 PM (NOIQH)
I need a favor.
My search fu sucks, and you posted your diatribe about being labeled and defined by your sweater puppies again today.
Now I can't find it, and I need to send it to a friend as an example of how a strong woman thinks.
Can you repost it, and can I borrow it?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 16, 2016 05:03 PM (ptqRm)
get one just to have the government try to take it or take the loss on
"buy back" like Australia?
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 05:01 PM (d9qXV)
IIRC, the estimated compliance with Australia's gun confiscation was something like 30%.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 05:03 PM (GUBah)
I've been steadily losing rights my entire life because of certain groups of people who can't get their shit together.
Apparently being retards means I have to be less free or something.
Can't wait for the blowback.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 16, 2016 05:04 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2016 05:06 PM (7HtZB)
Obama is turning this into a LGBT campaign speech. What a disgusting person. Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (/tuJf)
He is a disgrace to the office.The vast majority of Americans are equally outraged this happened regardless of the fact that the victims were gay.He had an opportunity to use this event to show just because we are against your lifestyle doesn't mean we are enemies and we can unite in common cause.But instead he decided to link this act of islamic terror to the most devisive issues in America,gun control.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 16, 2016 05:06 PM (lKyWE)
This is the key to the fascists of the left. "Liberals" want the mob retaliation to be achieved via government. "Libertarians" (e.g., those at Reason and in the LP) want the mob retaliation to be by actual mobs, as if that makes their fascism somehow "libertarian."
Posted by: gm at June 16, 2016 05:07 PM (4ueYo)
Posted by: awkward davies at June 16, 2016 05:07 PM (7Awbj)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2016 05:07 PM (p2X2f)
family member of the killed or maimed-says "Maybe it's not a good idea
to stop investigating potential Islamic terrorists because to mention
jihad and Islam might hurt feelings?"
They probably screened any he met with to winnow out any undesirable opinions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2016 05:00 PM (rmw+9)
The local radio channel has been focused on the massacre non-stop with callers since it happened.They had one lady who called in, said she managed to escape, as is going to get a gun and carry it whether it is legal or not.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 05:08 PM (P/kVC)
Recall that Fast and Furious was Obama's attempt to cause mass gun violence south of the border in order to change public opinion about the second amendment on this side of the border.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 04:57 PM (p4UlV)
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Yes, remember this.
The dead? Eh. You have to break a few eggs......
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2016 05:08 PM (T/5A0)
It was pretty simple. Anyone could understand those rights. There was no need for any Latin or extensive education, much less emanations or penumbras.
Certainly, those broad ideas left room for interpretation in specific scenarios. Did a person's actions deny someone else life, liberty, or the ability to pursue happiness?
Well, we had a way to deal with that also. Since the root of these questions was forming a "more perfect union" or, more simply, did someone's actions justify allowing them to remain a part of society or their community, we used to present the facts to 12 random people from their community and allow them to decide.
The result wasn't fixed. Sometime those 12 people thought one way. Sometime other groups of 12, usually in different places, came to a different conclusion. It just depended on what the people who were impacted by the issue in question and their local values were.
Worked out pretty well. Then everyone decided, "Fuck this, let's have a bunch of lawyers in DC decide everything for everyone" and "while we're at it, they should make sure everything is fair, decide what is good for me, and be responsible for every aspect of my life and well being".
Posted by: Damiano at June 16, 2016 05:09 PM (71OEY)
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 05:09 PM (mR7Es)
Posted by: H Badger at June 16, 2016 05:09 PM (n/0Nw)
Posted by: Lauren at June 16, 2016 04:56 PM (6d5Md)
It's hard to find words for the outrage that stirs.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 16, 2016 05:09 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 05:08 PM (P/kVC)"
Better to spend a few years in jail than eternity in the ground. Just don't commit another crime while carrying - that'd give you more than a few years in jail.
Posted by: gm at June 16, 2016 05:10 PM (4ueYo)
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2016 05:11 PM (kQo7t)
Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2016 05:11 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: gm at June 16, 2016 05:11 PM (4ueYo)
Posted by: Killerdog at June 16, 2016 05:11 PM (rAsP5)
Posted by: gm at June 16, 2016 05:12 PM (4ueYo)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2016 05:12 PM (e3bId)
Those are, literally, fightin' words.
Is it 1775 all over again?
Yep.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2016 05:12 PM (ovir2)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 05:14 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 05:14 PM (d9qXV)
Posted by: Hillary! at June 16, 2016 05:15 PM (5HyS+)
Posted by: awkward davies at June 16, 2016 05:16 PM (7Awbj)
Posted by: awkward davies at June 16, 2016 05:16 PM (7Awbj)
You been reading old posts on my blog?
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 05:17 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: awkward davies at June 16, 2016 05:19 PM (7Awbj)
who've brought us to this place can we possibly turn back the tide.
This time it will work.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 16, 2016 04:50 PM (4ErVI)
Your guy Trump is fine with gun control.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2016 05:20 PM (3JA/M)
....
1. Define "assault weapon"
2. How does this differ from a "defensive weapon"?
3. If, at the time of the shooting, the victims had access to defensive weapons, would they have refused them?
4. If the the shooter and victims were still alive and the incident was ongoing, would any members of the family want access to equal or greater weapons than the shooter possessed?
5. Why is it a bad thing for a law abiding person to own an "assault weapon" but it is acceptable for the US government to ship the same weapons to drug cartels, ISIS affiliated groups, and other groups, countries, and people who have vowed to use these weapons against Americans?
6. When we ban all weapons and all the lawful people comply, how will you address the people who don't follow the law? This is really the most important question in this situation since the failures that could have prevented this crime were illegal and suspicious actions that were known by law enforcement prior to the weapons even being purchased or involved? So, since we refuse to enforce laws now, how will additional laws improve the situation? Will you pass a law that requires criminals to follow the law?
Posted by: Damiano at June 16, 2016 05:22 PM (71OEY)
Its kinda funny how no GOPer has ever gone to the blacks and other members of the libtard base and said
"These guys have promised to make your lives better. For generations
they've said they'd lift you up. But the only ones who get lifted up
are the Clintons, and Sharptons, and Obamas, while you settle for
scraps."
Not true, Iblis my friend.
Rand Paul has done exactly that. Others running for GOP office, specifically Angela McGlowen, has also stated as much. However, you probably never hear it on the NBC Nightly News for example.
Posted by: JB at June 16, 2016 05:26 PM (5ntXg)
There's a part of me that tires of repeatedly restating my standard rant on the motivations of commie cocksuckers, but then again......
Ahem.
The Left isn't interested in the socialist utopia that they speak of. That's just the lie that they tell to conceal their true agenda, which is destruction, slavery and death. They don't care about what comes next. Just as long as they personally get the chance to shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck before the revolution is over. THAT'S what motivates them.
That's also why they have such a love-fest with the mohammedans. They have the common goal of the destruction of Western Civilization. They're not adversaries, they're allies. The only difference between them is that mohammedans ARE interested in what comes next.
Well that, personal hygiene and goat fucking. And I'm not so sure about the goat fucking.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 05:26 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Damiano at June 16, 2016 05:27 PM (71OEY)
But they need to get their minds around the subject of fighting for what they believe, because the Left intends to get what they want by hook or by crook. As I believe can be shown...
Posted by: Some guy on the Interwebs at June 16, 2016 05:29 PM (ORlaL)
Posted by: awkward davies at June 16, 2016 05:31 PM (7Awbj)
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Lauren, that is a horrible story but who knows what leading and misleading questions they asked of this young mother when they removed her to question her alone.
A question about whether she was tired after giving birth, answered honestly (because who isn't exhausted after giving birth), could be taken as an indication that she is unable to look after her child because she is tired by a social worker who thinks it is wrong not to abort a child born of rape (or who thinks a mother cannot possibly love such a child and would abuse him).
What a horrible, horrible story... please up date on Friday if possible.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2016 05:31 PM (3JA/M)
....
There wasn't an time left aft they got done reporting that Lincoln was a Democrat and only southern republicans stood in the way of civil rights.
I'm trying to get my revisionist history right, was Democrat hero Robert Byrd a Republican or were the stories about him being in the KKK just Republican lies?
Posted by: Damiano at June 16, 2016 05:32 PM (71OEY)
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People are thinking only about the people who might be found in that immediate situation. At a school, you'd be talking about having armed teachers. And there actually was some movement along those lines. But too many parents get squeamish about the idea of adults that they (the parents) barely know spending all day armed around their kids.
The Orlando attack, on the other hand, was an attack on a bunch of people in a social situation having fun. The sexual orientation of the victims can be viewed as something unique to this particular shooting, meaning that nearly anyone could have been a potential victim of an attack like this. Getting a gun suddenly became more practical.
Posted by: junior at June 16, 2016 05:41 PM (t+Qw5)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 05:47 PM (39g3+)
"These guys have promised to make your lives better. For generations they've said they'd lift you up. But the only ones who get lifted up are the Clintons, and Sharptons, and Obamas, while you settle for scraps."
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Both Romney and Obama gave talks to the NAACP in 2012. Romney got a standing ovation. Obama didn't even bother to show up in person, and gave his via video, iirc. And yet those in attendence still freely admitted that, essentially, it would be a cold day in Hell before the Black community voted for Romney.
Posted by: junior at June 16, 2016 05:48 PM (t+Qw5)
Sure, that time. But that effort has to be made over and over. You don't give up with one shot. Overcoming the hatred and bigotry that too many Jews and blacks have against the GOP is too deep seated and takes work to overcome.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 05:54 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bitsko at June 16, 2016 06:15 PM (e8vZr)
It (whatever "it" is at a given time) is all and only about one thing, the destruction of America and Western Civilization generally.
And it's working like hell-beating tanbark.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs_relocating_to_more_rural_area_asap at June 16, 2016 06:37 PM (dhpfK)
You have perhaps the most law abiding cohort in the country deciding that their government's actions are completely illegitimate. That should give politicians pause for thought --- but it won't.
Posted by: Thatch at June 16, 2016 07:00 PM (pBZp4)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at June 16, 2016 07:31 PM (V71z9)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 16, 2016 08:10 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2016 08:11 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2016 08:12 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at June 16, 2016 08:13 PM (rwI+c)
I wonder how many of us morons are on a "list" the DemocRATS and Vichy Republicans want to use to disarm us.
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at June 16, 2016 07:31 PM (V71z9)
Every. Last. One. Of. Us.
Guaranteed.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:14 PM (LuZz8)
I'm afraid that these next six-eight months are going to be worse than I imagined.
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:14 PM (ehGcB)
I'm afraid that these next six-eight months are going to be worse than I imagined.
Posted by: Rhea Lee
Wait till February!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 16, 2016 08:15 PM (IqV8l)
Yeh, what are the odds?
http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=277890
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 16, 2016 08:16 PM (ptqRm)
You ain't seen nothin' yet. Ba-ba-ba-baby, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary-Turner Overdrive!!11!! at June 16, 2016 08:16 PM (Tyii7)
I'm. Not. Kidding.
Not my rules.
Not my game.
But if this is how we're playing?
Bring it, bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
so let's do this?
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2016 08:17 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:17 PM (ehGcB)
Posted by: Chubby Checker at June 16, 2016 08:18 PM (/FHjB)
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 16, 2016 08:18 PM (McglG)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 16, 2016 08:18 PM (vBeA5)
As a queer conservative, that is a direct homophobic attack on me. I
demand that the DOJ bring civil rights charges against Obama for such
hate speech.
I'm. Not. Kidding.
Not my rules.
Not my game.
But if this is how we're playing?
Bring it, bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
so let's do this?
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2016 08:17 PM (iynDC)
what did he say today?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 16, 2016 08:19 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 08:20 PM (d9qXV)
I keep hearing the response from the left when you bring up that if others were armed at the club, they stood a chance at taking down the shooter.
They immediately come back with, there was someone armed, and it didn't work.
So what exactly happened. Did the rent a cop get shot first outside?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2016 08:20 PM (ar1r/)
What more evidence do you need?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:20 PM (wYnyS)
You ain't seen nothin' yet. Ba-ba-ba-baby, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary-Turner Overdrive!!11!! at June 16, 2016 08:16 PM (Tyii7)
We saw it twenty years ago.
Hillery Care was described as 'Stalinist' as it would outright nationalize all aspects of healthcare overnight and criminalize any private practice (even the most trivial... colicky baby?)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 08:21 PM (P/kVC)
Some folks, who would rather appeal to politics than save lives say "go ahead" "do whatever you want."
But I cannot look at one more AIDS ravaged face, one more orphan whose parent has died of AIDS and accept this kind of anarchic approach.
We can no longer allow the unfettered practice of sodomy and premarital sex to kill and maim untol thousands of our citizens.
So at this time, I am announcing my Executive Sodomy ban, to go into effect at midnight tonight. And to my good friend Reggie: see you at 11.
Peace out my fellow Americans.
Posted by: Barak The Wise at June 16, 2016 08:21 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2016 08:17 PM (iynDC)
what did he say today?
He said gun rights supporters are allowing these terrorist attacks to happen...
Posted by: donna at June 16, 2016 08:23 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 08:23 PM (d9qXV)
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Defense in depth.
Look at how many security people John Wick had to shoot at that club.
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:24 PM (ehGcB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:24 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at June 16, 2016 08:24 PM (knRe2)
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 16, 2016 08:24 PM (ZR1fB)
Our nation was born from Freeman doing violence to tyrants and it looks like that's what it will take to keep it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (AM3fZ)
Yep. Its already started. Its madness.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (d9qXV)
Times infinity...
Individual humans have a right to self defense. It is a human right, no different than free speech. One that few countries have like we have. It marks us as a free people...
Posted by: William Eaton at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (wYnyS)
Yep, said we are *choosing* to let them happen.
No. The terrorist is choosing to slaughter people.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 08:26 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 16, 2016 08:26 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:27 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at June 16, 2016 07:31 PM (V71z9)
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The lovely gentleman who runs the gun shop that I patronize, told me years ago that I was on a list. We laugh about it when I go in. He also knows me by sight and calls me by my first name. This might give you an indication of my purchasing habits.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 16, 2016 08:28 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:28 PM (Ozsfq)
When has he ever taken responsibility for anything?
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 08:28 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at June 16, 2016 04:51 PM (mf5HN)
Human rights to apply to thought criminals.
Posted by: Your Progressive Overlords at June 16, 2016 08:28 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:29 PM (wYnyS)
yeah i'm going to do it.
so if im not back tomorrow, you'll all know how that went, and i'll be licking my wounds for a while
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2016 08:29 PM (iynDC)
Times infinity...
Individual humans have a right to self defense. It is a human right, no different than free speech. One that few countries have like we have. It marks us as a free people...
Posted by: William Eaton at June 16, 2016 08:25 PM (KhJh
I'd go further than that. Every living creature has a right to self defense. Some secrete toxins, some have fangs and claws, and so on.
The best method humans have invented so far is guns.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: donna at June 16, 2016 08:23 PM (O2RFr)
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Wow. We must be magic.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 16, 2016 08:29 PM (dFi94)
Question for you all.
I keep hearing the response from the left when you bring up that if
others were armed at the club, they stood a chance at taking down the
shooter.
They immediately come back with, there was someone armed, and it didn't work.
So what exactly happened. Did the rent a cop get shot first outside?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2016 08:20 PM (ar1r/)
I understand that the 'rent-a-cop' was an actual cop working OT as most jurisdictions allow cops to do (security at private fictions with billing through the PD), the jihadi went inside for a last look, went back out to retrieve weapons and bypassed security going back, and then lit the place up. Rent-a-cop took action and was joined by two guys on their regular shift very quickly. They realized they were outgunned and a more traditional hostage situation appeared to develop so they stood by for SWAT to take over.
Nobody in the club was armed as it is illegal.
But my understanding is probably lacking.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 08:29 PM (P/kVC)
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Willow - be safe and don't be afraid.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 16, 2016 08:30 PM (dFi94)
Question for you all.
I keep hearing the response from the left when you bring up that if others were armed at the club, they stood a chance at taking down the shooter.
They immediately come back with, there was someone armed, and it didn't work.
So what exactly happened. Did the rent a cop get shot first outside?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2016 08:20 PM (ar1r/)
The way to respond is to simply observe that there are no guarantees in real life. But removing the barriers to effective self-defense by the average citizen allows them to make their own choices in regards to their own security. Empowering the individual is never wrong.
And having the option of going armed increased your chances of survival, even if it doesn't guarantee it.
Then again, I actually prefer to respond "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, MOTHERFUCKER. DON'T YOU SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, COCKSUCKER?"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:32 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:33 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Thatch at June 16, 2016 07:00 PM (pBZp4)
I think that's why they are starting to claim that "private" transfers should be subject to Federal registration rules to make the creation of the "home grown extremist list" easier.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:34 PM (wYnyS)
...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:32 PM (LuZz
To a statist, empowering the individual is ALWAYS wrong!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 08:35 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at June 16, 2016 08:35 PM (vyqqu)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 08:37 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
He should give up baseball and take up dogsledding.
Seeing as how he's Idiot-A-Rod, he'd be a natural.
Posted by: Steve and Cold bear at June 16, 2016 08:37 PM (ZR1fB)
One thing I've started to wonder about is, where did this asshole get the money for his weapons? He apparently didn't build them up over time, but bought EVERYTHING in the weeks before the attack. So he shelled out two or three thousand bucks in less than a month for the weapons, ammo and other items. What rent-a-cop has that kind of cash available?
Hell, what kind of average person have that much cash available in the Age Of Obama?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:39 PM (LuZz8)
Rep. Paul Gosars amendment has failed Thursday by a vote of 211-210. The Arizona Republican says he wants to close what he calls President Barack Obamas backdoor amnesty program.
Rep. Ruben Gallego opposed Gosars amendment. The Arizona Democrat says Congress shouldnt let anti immigrant posturing block the militarys recruiting goals. The immigrants can enlist if they have special language or medical skills.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:39 PM (Ozsfq)
Hell, what kind of average person have that much cash available in the Age Of Obama?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:39 PM (LuZz
The kind that never had any intention of being around when the credit card bill came in
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:40 PM (Ozsfq)
Schroedinger's cat. You have to open the box to see what is inside it.
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:41 PM (ehGcB)
He visited Saudi Arabia twice, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2016 08:41 PM (NOIQH)
https://twitter.com/SalenaZitoTrib/status/743595177978302464
Posted by: The Semi-automatic Hat at June 16, 2016 08:41 PM (vBeA5)
Why do you pronounce it dead? It was false reporting that the asshole who killed her said anything connected to Brexit. Just the British MSM doing what they do best- lying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:42 PM (Ozsfq)
willow
potty training is all done yay
kid is currently beginning to settle
later
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 16, 2016 08:42 PM (Cq0oW)
Schroedinger's cat. You have to open the box to see what is inside it.
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:41 PM (ehGcB)
Eyewitness tells reporters he didn't hear anyone shout "Britain first", saying: "Never heard that".
https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/743464352066453504
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 16, 2016 08:43 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Richard M Stallman at June 16, 2016 08:43 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 16, 2016 08:44 PM (6Ll1u)
The kind that never had any intention of being around when the credit card bill came in
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:40 PM (Ozsfq)
Good point, but some of those purchases are pretty large to put on a single card. I don't see a rent-a-cop having good enough credit to support being able to buy a $1500 rifle on one credit card.
It just looks hinky to me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 08:45 PM (LuZz8)
I'm listening to Trump in Dallas right now. I guess the people who attend his rallies are coming for this stuff, but jeez -- I'm not hearing anything new, anything useful, anything of substance. Every rally is just the story of his campaign plus the last week's events. The size of his crowds, his strength in the polls, how he defied the odds and the pundits, the celebrity endorsements...
He has three more rallies scheduled currently and the infamous Crooked Hillary speech is nowhere in sight. Shaking my head.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 08:45 PM (5o5ek)
Looks like the murder may not have had the expected result. There is still a week to go tho.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 08:46 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 16, 2016 08:46 PM (kP16F)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2016 08:47 PM (e3bId)
Notice who is playing first base?
Or...rather...who's on first?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 16, 2016 08:48 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at June 16, 2016 08:48 PM (B8SNf)
Which is why Trump has to hammer at Obama's assumed invincability, and that is why the GOP is in such low regard.
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:48 PM (ehGcB)
159 Well if in years to come all the "Syrians " that Barak has let in now go jihadis will he takes responsibility for them?
When has he ever taken responsibility for anything?
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 08:28 PM (syGA0)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
And has anyone ever held him responsible? Two sides to the coin
Posted by: Molly k. at June 16, 2016 08:49 PM (YUgLc)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 08:50 PM (e859L)
I find it interesting that the Leftists want to eliminate our due process rights while at the same time screaming about giving the scum in Guantanamo full due process rights.
In the words of Capt. Binghamton, "I could just scream."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 08:50 PM (p4UlV)
Or...rather...who's on first?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 16, 2016 08:48 PM (Zu3d9)
Yup, but what is on second right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:51 PM (Ozsfq)
The immigrants can enlist if they have special language or medical skills.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:39 PM (Ozsfq)
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Are you fucking kidding me. Special language skills, like fluent in Arabic or Spanish. Medical skills -- so they can heal up our vets real good, same as Nidal Hassan counseled them on PTSD.
Defeated by the House. Fuck them dead. Oh, and let me guess: Paul Ryan was one of the amnesty-ites.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 08:52 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 08:53 PM (AroJD)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 08:53 PM (AroJD)
They exist to render US powerless.
Vayr ge hargit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 08:53 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Rhea Lee at June 16, 2016 08:53 PM (ehGcB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:51 PM (Ozsfq)
I don't know!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 16, 2016 08:54 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2016 08:54 PM (p4UlV)
Transgender For Trump Facebook Page Is Suspended
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 08:54 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 08:37 PM
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IMO,....
Brexit is still quite possible, though not probable. (I assume the EU-Brits can do a full-court media press and indulge in vote fraud as well as our Dems can.)
I give Hillary an 80+% chance of being the next POTUS.
*sigh*
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2016 08:54 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 16, 2016 08:55 PM (6Ll1u)
https://twitter.com/SalenaZitoTrib/status/743595177978302464
Posted by: The Semi-automatic Hat at June 16, 2016 08:41 PM (vBeA5)
Good. The more people who own guns and learn to use them, the fewer people there are to support gun control. The more the merrier.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
Wow. Never heard of them.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 08:50 PM (e859L)
I've heard of them. They've been around for years.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:58 PM (sdi6R)
So what exactly happened. Did the rent a cop get shot first outside?
Posted by: Jen
One of a number of differing timelines, with conflicting accounts and degrees of hysterical overwrought reporting:
https://tinyurl.com/zvm6oeg
Executive Summary
Shooting starts at 2 AM, victims act like victims, SWAT shows up and dicks around for three hours. The end.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 08:58 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 16, 2016 08:58 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 16, 2016 08:46 PM
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So, so true.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2016 08:59 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at June 16, 2016 08:59 PM (oeOT+)
Brexit is still quite possible, though not probable.
I agree. The "Britain" shout has been disproven, the guy is a lunatic. We'll see how much the vote is affected but I wonder if this will just make people want to be away from the EU even more.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 09:00 PM (39g3+)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zxsv2jy
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Fritz at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (f40FU)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (rznWS)
Good. The more people who own guns and learn to use
them, the fewer people there are to support gun control. The more the
merrier.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
Free firearms training, just say you are LG... -
http://tinyurl.com/go4srdj
- but please tip
Another link in nic for map builder
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 09:02 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:02 PM (hVdx9)
Nope. The patriots wouldn't even be able to muster an amount equal to what turned out at Lexington and Concord.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 16, 2016 09:03 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
remember the CQP shooting technique used in John Wick? Guess what? It's real. It's called CAR.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
Looks like an excellent method for shooting off your own distaff arm.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 09:05 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
Like this?
http://tinyurl.com/zeufo8m
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 09:05 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 09:06 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
****
I sure could see it happening.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:06 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 09:08 PM (oeOT+)
Like this?
http://tinyurl.com/zeufo8m
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 09:05 PM (GUBah)
Um...err... well I guess the chainsaw is sort of a high-tech bayonet.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:08 PM (sdi6R)
Looks like an excellent method for shooting off your own distaff arm.
I sure could see it happening.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
Hold right gun hand to chest
Shoot over left elbow
Rotate body
Owwwwwwww!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 09:09 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 09:09 PM (e859L)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:10 PM (iQIUe)
Shooting off your wife's arm??
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 16, 2016 09:10 PM (oKE6c)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zxsv2jy
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (hVdx9)
And apparently Keanu Reeves trained like a mofo to prepare for the role.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 09:12 PM (0mRoj)
There has really been no proof that the shooter is a Leave supporter or that was the motivation. The claim he shouted Britain First is bogus. The claim he belonged to a right wing group that supports Leave is based on him subscribing to a South African magazine over 10 years ago.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:14 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 09:15 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Insomniac
****
He certainly did. I did not know that his rep is to go all out for his roles. And he may not look it, but he is apparently in good shape.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:15 PM (hVdx9)
remember the CQP shooting technique used in John Wick? Guess what? It's real. It's called CAR.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zxsv2jy
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:01 PM (hVdx9)
I remember seeing Paul Castle on some History Channel show years ago. The thing that caught my eye was the super-fast transitions from right hand to left hand. Dood did 'em in like a quarter second, when appropriate (switching directions during movement, turning around left side corners etc).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 09:16 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Insomniac
****
He certainly did. I did not know that his rep is to go all out for his roles. And he may not look it, but he is apparently in good shape.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:15 PM (hVdx9)
I read somewhere that he became a nationally ranked martial artist in the course of preparing for The Matrix. So no matter what you think of his acting abilities, from where I sit you have to admire his work ethic.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 09:17 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at June 16, 2016 09:17 PM (AHDxb)
Think I'm going to forward a link to my gay, gun curious friend.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 16, 2016 09:20 PM (AHDxb)
There has really been no proof that the shooter is a Leave supporter or that was the motivation. The claim he shouted Britain First is bogus. The claim he belonged to a right wing group that supports Leave is based on him subscribing to a South African magazine over 10 years ago.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:14 PM (iQIUe)
It's likely that he was just a random nut, but the timing is suspicious. The globalists are not going to be dissuaded. I can see them using election fraud or false flag attacks. They are pure evil, and they will either use the democratic process to achieve their goals, or subvert it as necessary. Makes no difference to them.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:21 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 16, 2016 09:22 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 09:22 PM (P/kVC)
And if you shoot yourself, you're not doing CAR, you're doing Yoga. Seriously, try to point an imaginary barrel at your elbow or shoulder with your off-elbow down and a firm two-handed grip.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2016 09:23 PM (wB8Tg)
Think I'm going to forward a link to my gay, gun curious friend.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 16, 2016 09:20 PM (AHDxb)
Self Defense is a Human Right, Larry Correia, Monster Hunter
http://monsterhunternation.com/2016/06/15/self-defense-is-a-human-right/
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 09:24 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:39 PM (Ozsfq)
Roman Empire: Fill up your military with non-citizens. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:24 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:21 PM (sdi6R)
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He's been hospitalized before. He's lived with him mom all his life and she just died a couple of months ago.
.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:24 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 16, 2016 09:25 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 16, 2016 09:25 PM (ZR1fB)
It's nice to see the Dems openly trying to get rid of due process and presumption of innocence like we always knew they wanted to. The Daddy Issues Party was always going to come after the Kulaks, of course, because we're magically keeping them from Earthly perfection by existing.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2016 09:26 PM (wB8Tg)
Don't worry though the government is keeping a close eye on them. And by them I mean us, while letting Omar and his buddies run free
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:26 PM (GILMl)
Roman Empire: Fill up your military with non-citizens. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:24 PM (GILMl)
Having a military made up of foreigners will come in handy when the order is given to forcibly disarm the white middle class.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 16, 2016 09:28 PM (GdFQh)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2016 09:29 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 16, 2016 09:29 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 09:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:29 PM (iQIUe)
And that's the issue. Liberals have a specific vision in mind, and they are driven to impose it on everyone else. A conservative or libertarian will list the same answers regarding peace and health, but when prompted on specifics, most will say "sure, people can have guns if they want as long as they don't hurt other people. What do I care?". Libs can't allow that...everyone will eventually conform to the standard.
Posted by: Grimaldi at June 16, 2016 09:30 PM (MiIWV)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 16, 2016 09:28 PM (GdFQh)
No, but if there's a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:31 PM (GILMl)
Not a first. Did the same for the Matrix movies, wound up something like 3rd in North America in competitive rankings for whatever martial art it was...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at June 16, 2016 09:31 PM (vyqqu)
Is that fucking May Queen back, again!?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 09:32 PM (oeOT+)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 16, 2016 09:03 PM (rznWS)
Don't worry Gen. Benedict Ryan will lead us to victory
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:32 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Exactly. You don't see that much in H-Wood.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:32 PM (hVdx9)
KJV Matthew 13:9
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 09:33 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
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I wouldn't be too concerned...
War fighting isn't as stressed in basic training, as opposed to diversity, lgbtabcd training, sensitivity training, etc.
Recruits are babied, which does not bode well for them.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:33 PM (rlfds)
When you are paid 7 million bucks plus to appear in a film, damn right you better train for it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)
I wish someone had beaten that into Kiefer Sutherland's skull before he took the Jack Bauer role. His handgun "technique" was so shitty that us gun nuts started snarking about the "Jack Bauer Teacup Weaver Stance"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 09:34 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
****
And yet they have to run most of them thru a boot camp to make sure they train.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:35 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Pinky out?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:35 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at June 16, 2016 09:36 PM (VDc7u)
Brexit would crush our environment and green businesses
The Green Party's Molly Scott Cato argues the EU's environmental protections are anything but 'spirit-crushing'
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Good. Green businesses destroy jobs and jack up the prices on everything. Destroy them fking all.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:36 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Steve and Cold bear at June 16, 2016 09:37 PM (ZR1fB)
Give it up dude, it's over - It's over.
Assclown!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at June 16, 2016 09:37 PM (lgNzO)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:33 PM (rlfds)
Nephew is in Infantry OSUT right now. Talked to my sister two days ago and asked if she'd heard from him. He's doing great, she says. He's been texting her.
*facepalm*
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 09:37 PM (GUBah)
Glad to see the Q-word beginning to creep back into our discourse.
Really no lesser descriptor is sufficient to describe their behavior.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 09:38 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 09:39 PM (MNgU2)
When you are paid 7 million bucks plus to appear in a film, damn right you better train for it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
****
And yet they have to run most of them thru a boot camp to make sure they train.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:35 PM (hVdx9)
I'll let you in on a secret. I became a Hollywood military technical advisor because it gave me an excuse to abuse actors in the boot camp. Shhhhhhhhh!
Posted by: Dale Dye at June 16, 2016 09:40 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 16, 2016 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
Dammit. I actually find myself more inclined to believe her than the 'journalists'.
Note 'more inclined'... that does not mean that I believe her, it's just that I so thoroughly distrust anything that the media say.
How about that? I regard a jihadist's wife as possibly more credible than the 'journalists'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 09:41 PM (mxCgt)
I liked the last 24 hour season which was only 12 hours. When Jack pulled Caitlyn Stark out of the window, it was great!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:41 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale
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Not me!
I work as hard as any soldier.
Posted by: Tom Cruise at June 16, 2016 09:42 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Dale Dye
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I am so jealous...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:43 PM (hVdx9)
Now listen here, my good man. I will not have members of the lower orders dragging the good name of Mr. Will through the mud. He has provided invaluable services to our national discourse.
Also, there have been many occasions on which, were it not for Georgie's ability to drop everything and rush over, Muffy and I would have lacked a fourth at bridge. He has been a true gentleman in our hours of need.
Posted by: T. Coddington Van Voorhees the VIIth at June 16, 2016 09:43 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 09:43 PM (AroJD)
Pinky out?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:35 PM (hVdx9)
Support hand under the gun hand. Like a cup and saucer. NO ONE teaches that, but it's a very common gun noobie mistake.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 09:44 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Citizen Keanu at June 16, 2016 09:44 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:44 PM (N+e/e)
I was called in to dinner about halfway through Trump's Dallas speech, which was a boring recitation of numbers, polls, states, celebrity endorsements, etc.
Hillary creeps up on him steadily by a tenth of a percent every day.
By the time he makes his Crooked Hillary speech, no one's going to be listening to him. He has three more "rallies" over the next three days, no serious speech as far as I know, although maybe he announced one tonight.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 09:44 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 09:45 PM (MNgU2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjetOCk
Posted by: KT at June 16, 2016 09:45 PM (qahv/)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Heh. I knew what you meant. It might be ok for a newbie with a .22. Anyone else? Nope.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:46 PM (hVdx9)
*facepalm*
Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2016 09:37 PM (GUBah)
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Phones in basic...huh.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:47 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (qmou8)
"We will lose our freedoms in this country, including all of the Bill of Rights, if we don't robustly defend the separation of powers," Ryan said at his weekly press conference inside the U.S. Capitol.
Funny how Paul Quisling never said this about Prezzy Executive Actions
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: Bashar Assad at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (ZR1fB)
.......
I call that 'The Charlies Angles Method'
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (N+e/e)
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (qmou
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Was like that at Relaxin' Jackson in 1987 and 2001.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:49 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Insomniac
He's also known as a good guy who hangs out with the crew during breaks and treats them well. He donated all of his pay from one of his bigger movies (I think the third Matrix film) to the crew.
He keeps his mouth shut about politics, too.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 16, 2016 09:50 PM (nvMvs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 16, 2016 09:50 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 09:50 PM (MNgU2)
Very true. Terrible movie. Sharon Tate was unbelievably beautiful in it, which is why I still watch it when it shows up on TCM.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 16, 2016 09:50 PM (syGA0)
Either way, I've known effeminate gay men who would have pimp slapped him and told him to quit acting like a bitch.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:51 PM (hVdx9)
Speaking of movies, how the Hell did Roman Polanski get the reputation of great film-maker that he has? Yeah, Chinatown was great--probably because he didn't have any hand in writing it. I'm watching Fearless Vampire Killers and it is utterly terrible. Had it been made forty years later, it would be an Adam Sandler movie. Ten years earlier, it would have been something forgettable from Roger Corman.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 09:43 PM (AroJD)
Never did see FVK, but I'll take your word for it. Because it's the same thing with several of his other films, even later ones where you would think that he'd have honed his craft. Frantic, Pirates, The Ninth Gate......ugh.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 09:51 PM (LuZz8)
I forgot to type the year 1973, I'm glad it kept on that long.
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 09:52 PM (qmou8)
America's gun laws and our rush to Brexit are symptoms of two fearful nations....
The Guardian
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No, it's two nations who believe in self determination and self sufficiency. I love how all the wrong people are wailing over Brexit.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 09:52 PM (iQIUe)
"We will lose our freedoms in this country, including all of the Bill of Rights, if we don't robustly defend the separation of powers," Ryan said at his weekly press conference inside the U.S. Capitol.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (GILMl)
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I feel like someone has shaved my head and stuck electrodes in my brain and I'm having a grand mal seizure as I run down a sterile hallway in a gown loosely tied in the back.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 09:52 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 09:52 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 09:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:53 PM (N+e/e)
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 09:52 PM (qmou
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Yeah, we got to use the payphone after BRM.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:54 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 09:44 PM (5o5ek)
*****
Look, you have made it clear that you don't like him. Fine. You might want to look at his ability to make the Media sing to his tune though. I think he will be just fine, especially given his presumptive opponent.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 09:54 PM (YLidQ)
So why hasn't he done anything about Obama?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (39g3+)
Obama Administration to Revise Total GDP Growth Down 2%
The Commerce Department is set this July to publish a stunning 2 percent downward revision of gross domestic product (GDP) during the Obama Administration term in office.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jqvxo7o
(Breitbart)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (QlyN5)
Emotionally exhausting
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (7lVbc)
Heh. I knew what you meant. It might be ok for a newbie with a .22. Anyone else? Nope.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 09:46 PM (hVdx9)
Word. The thing that made it so infuriating is that Bauer is supposed to be this highly trained spec ops/intel officer. Just from the "method acting" perspective, a teacup weaver stance is totally out of character.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (N+e/e)
Emotionally exhausting
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (7lVbc)
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Yep.
Watched it the other night.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (c7vUv)
I have actually heard that technique defended.
The idea being that if you are concealed-carrying a semiauto with only one magazine, when that magazine is exhausted, it can then be dropped smoothly into the supporting hand instead of possibly falling to the ground. Speeding reload.
I thought to myself, "Who carries concealed with a pocket full of loose rounds for reload?" But that seems to be the conops here.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (noWW6)
Funny how Paul Quisling never said this about Prezzy Executive Actions
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 09:48 PM (GILMl)
Self-awareness seems to be in short supply in DC.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 09:57 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:57 PM (N+e/e)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 09:50 PM (MNgU2)
****
That is a game that is screaming for a shot clock. The 95% defense sucks for the fans.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 09:57 PM (YLidQ)
Emotionally exhausting
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (7lVbc)
I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it. I know it's going to piss me off big time.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 09:57 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Jake at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (N+e/e)
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I used it twice in 1987, and twice in 2001.
The second call in 2001, three days after 9/11. My mom told me my timing sucked.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (rlfds)
They made me write my mother for the first time in my life.
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: Jody at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Molly k. at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (YUgLc)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 09:57 PM (0mRoj)
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Oh boy will it.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (rlfds)
Even after all these years 2 things stand out regarding Basic--man am I beat and shit, I'm starving.
Everything else is blurry.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (X35Yt)
The Commerce Department is set this July to publish a stunning 2 percent downward revision of gross domestic product (GDP) during the Obama Administration term in office.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jqvxo7o
(Breitbart)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (QlyN5)
The economy has never been better comrades. And if you don't think so you're racist
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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But the gun is soooooo heavy, and we had to do soooo many takes....
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (kP16F)
Nope.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (7lVbc)
Even after all these years 2 things stand out regarding Basic--man am I beat and shit, I'm starving.
Everything else is blurry.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2016 09:58 PM (X35Yt)
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I have pics when I went through in 1987.
No pics of when I went through in 2001.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (rlfds)
And the chocolate ration has been increased from 20 grams per day to 15 grams per day, comrade!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2016 10:01 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Look... really, you've got to stop blaming me for what happened. It was a video dammit. Everyone knows that. Ask Susan, she'll tell you.
And, there was nothing I could do. Besides, at this point...
Posted by: Hillary! at June 16, 2016 10:01 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 16, 2016 10:00 PM (kP16F)
The sidebar video is hilarious.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 10:01 PM (sdi6R)
Everything else is blurry.
Fall asleep standing up, chewing through a tin can.
Posted by: dartist at June 16, 2016 10:02 PM (qmou8)
Bet you never thought you'd read those words. Well, I'd have bet I'd never have typed them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 10:02 PM (AroJD)
I have actually heard that technique defended.
The idea being that if you are concealed-carrying a semiauto with only one magazine, when that magazine is exhausted, it can then be dropped smoothly into the supporting hand instead of possibly falling to the ground. Speeding reload.
I thought to myself, "Who carries concealed with a pocket full of loose rounds for reload?" But that seems to be the conops here.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 09:56 PM (noWW6)
*Sigh*
Not you, torquewrench, I know that you know better. Sighing at the folks that totally miss the point that the support hand does double duty, helping to support the weight of the pistol (because let's face it, holding 2 1/2 pounds of steel and lead at arms length is not a natural act), but also it helps to control the recoil by isometric pressure between the support and gun hands. Which is impossible to do with the support hand playing cup and saucer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:03 PM (LuZz8)
Bet you never thought you'd read those words. Well, I'd have bet I'd never have typed them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2016 10:02 PM (AroJD)
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I'll take your word for it.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:03 PM (rlfds)
Just saw a local store has some of his pimped out AR-15's for sale. The lowest priced one started at $2799.99.
The highest $5499.99
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:04 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: irongrampa
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Yeah, and as you know, that was no accident. Keep 'em tired, keep 'em moving, get some muscle built up, instill unquestioning discipline.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:04 PM (mxCgt)
Remember when Ace made us all talk *favorably* about soccer?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:04 PM (iQIUe)
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wrong: soccer sucks in general.
plus it is teh ghey.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 16, 2016 10:05 PM (8WVNP)
Remember when Ace made us all talk *favorably* about soccer?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:04 PM (iQIUe)
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Nope.
Then again, Ace never made me do anything.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:05 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Donald Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:06 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 10:06 PM (MQEz6)
Remember when Ace made us all talk *favorably* about soccer?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:04 PM (iQIUe)
I thought that was Gabe. Or am I getting loopy?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:07 PM (LuZz8)
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wrong: soccer sucks in general.
plus it is teh ghey.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 16, 2016 10:05 PM (8WVNP)
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It does. But, if they're gonna play it, a shot clock is what it needs.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:07 PM (YLidQ)
Stop talking smack about my son!
Posted by: Donald Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:06 PM (ZR1fB)
Get a haircut, grandpa.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (LuZz8)
someone, maybe Gabe, told the horde to cut loose with why we didn't like soccer, and we did.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (8WVNP)
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wrong: soccer sucks in general.
plus it is teh ghey.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 16, 2016 10:05 PM (8WVNP)
Tons of effort for little reward.
Same effort in basketball gets you 100 points.
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Donald Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:06 PM (ZR1fB)
What's with the negative waves, man?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (GILMl)
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That dude is 1/3 retard, 1/3 psycho, 1/3 egomaniac. I mean I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but getting hooked up with that bozo was a seriously stupid move.
Posted by: Sandy Bollock at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:09 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (YLidQ)
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You're gonna hurt moo-moo's feelings.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:09 PM (rlfds)
Went out to supper many years ago in Mission Texas while on border duty. Team leader asked what each of us was carrying. I had a 5 shot snubnose revolver and 10 loose rounds in my jeans pocket. He asked me if I ever considered a speedloader. I said no, we're just going to eat, right? When we go on the line tonight I'll probably carry something else. He asked what. I told him 'my AR with 5 30rd mags and a 1911 with 5 mags.' He just said one word. 'Oh.'
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2016 10:09 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:10 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Josephistan at June 16, 2016 10:10 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:09 PM (rlfds)
****
Well, that's just a side benefit.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:10 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:10 PM (YLidQ)
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Yeah, there is that.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:11 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Sandy Bollock
****
You seem to like douchebags.
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:12 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: William Shatner at June 16, 2016 10:12 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:12 PM (Nwg0u)
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=66370
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What a shithead.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (mxCgt)
Not meant to be patronizing in any way.
Seriously, this is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-hqiAlfQM
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:14 PM (MNgU2)
Went out to supper many years ago in Mission Texas while on border duty. Team leader asked what each of us was carrying. I had a 5 shot snubnose revolver and 10 loose rounds in my jeans pocket. He asked me if I ever considered a speedloader. I said no, we're just going to eat, right? When we go on the line tonight I'll probably carry something else. He asked what. I told him 'my AR with 5 30rd mags and a 1911 with 5 mags.' He just said one word. 'Oh.'
Posted by: Eromero
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My dad always had his snubnose, a couple of full speed loaders, and about 20 loose rounds.
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:14 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:14 PM (hVdx9)
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For Summer carry I have a snub and one speed loader in cargo shorts. If I need more than that, I have probably wandered into the wrong hood.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:16 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:17 PM (hVdx9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-hqiAlfQM
Posted by: rickl
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*hmm. probably kittens playing with rockets*
*clicks anyhow*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:17 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:14 PM (hVdx9)
Yeah, I guess parties at Robert Altman's place can be pretty rough.
Posted by: Josephistan at June 16, 2016 10:17 PM (7qAYi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-hqiAlfQM
Posted by: rickl
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fcking awsome.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: at June 16, 2016 09:55 PM (39g3+)
UniParty (R - Branch)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (P/kVC)
Aw, this is adorable.
Not meant to be patronizing in any way.
Seriously, this is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-hqiAlfQM
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
Hells yes, that's awesome. She's adorable.
Plus, the guy instructing seems to have his shit together. Keeping things simple for the kid, but not babying her either.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Beers for Fears at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
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Kid has good trigger discipline.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: SMFH
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Yup, already, and gently reinforced.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:20 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:20 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 16, 2016 10:21 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (2cS/G)
*****
It would force offense, not favor the boring defense. They would not be "booting it aimlessly" if they knew they were about to lose it.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:21 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (2cS/G)
Shot clock is no good. Need passing limit, 10 - 15 passes than you either shoot or turn the ball over with a indirect free kick.
Posted by: StrawMan at June 16, 2016 10:21 PM (lidp8)
Posted by: Tears for Fears at June 16, 2016 10:22 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: StrawMan at June 16, 2016 10:21 PM (lidp
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Make it like hot potato.
Don't pass it in time...boom.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:22 PM (rlfds)
Not meant to be patronizing in any way.
Seriously, this is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-hqiAlfQM
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)
Outstanding. She doesn't seem in the least bit injured or traumatized, does she? Also, cute as a button. And mad props to who I assume is her dad.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (0mRoj)
I thought that was Gabe. Or am I getting loopy?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:07 PM (LuZz
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It was definitely Ace.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
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I have found that the guys I see at the range with the snubbies shoot them quite well. They also tend to be in their 50's on up. Nothing wrong with that, it just seems to be a generational thing.
Us slightly younger punks were spoiled by the semi-autos from an early age.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (hVdx9)
Don't pass it in time...boom.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:22 PM (rlfds)
****
This too could work.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (YLidQ)
Shot clock in soccer would be problematic. Half the time the team with possession is a couple hundred feet from the goal, just booting it aimlessly as time runs out wouldn't add much to the game. Embiggen the goal and/or smallify the "pitch".
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2016 10:18 PM (2cS/G)
Holding the ball too long releases hungry tigers in midfield. That'd liven things up.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:24 PM (LuZz8)
Don't pass it in time...boom.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:22 PM (rlfds)
****
This too could work.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (YLidQ)
Toe popper zones.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:24 PM (0mRoj)
Don't pass it in time...boom.
Posted by: SMFH
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That would perk up the game.
It's similar to my plan which would allow NFL players to use chainsaws.
Posted by: Tears for Fears at June 16, 2016 10:24 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:24 PM (EzgxV)
"Sit down, John. Sit down, John. For God's sake, John, sit down!"
Posted by: Fox2! at June 16, 2016 10:25 PM (brIR5)
So, the executive summary:
More American service members killed and crippled in Afghanistan under Obama than under Obama's predecessor. And yet, a worse security situation in Afghanistan as Obama leaves compared to where it was when Obama arrived.
All of that butcher's bill... for less than nothing.
Wonder when the "more training for local forces" trope will be trotted out yet again? That one's a timeless classic.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 10:25 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (0mRoj)
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Just sent that link to Kuntzmann.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (rlfds)
She's a waitress/hostess at a nationally known restaurant chain. They have the joint divide geographically such that waitress A had this area and waitress B has that area. They have software at the hostess station such that customers are divided equally between the waitresses.
So the other night a black couple came in, a fairly unusual event since we live in flyover crackerland, about 99.5% cracker. (And, in fact, this couple was just passing through from LA to Chiraq.) A little time goes by and the waitresses have batted around the order and this section is up to bat again. A mixed race couple come in and are seated near the first couple. The woman of the first couple freaks and starts yelling at my daughter about being seated in black area. My daughter had to take her back and show her the fancy software to get her to shut up.
It's a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Josephistan
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Let's just say I started carrying two .38 snubbies after the first party.
And don't get me started on how bad the concealed carry holsters sucked. The places I had to hide them....
Posted by: Kiefer Sutherland at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (hVdx9)
Re: the sidebar article on McLame wanting to destroy surplus M-1911s
rather than having the Civilian Marksmanship Program distribute them to
qualified civilians: There is a song in the musical 1776 which is
appropriate.
"Sit down, John. Sit down, John. For God's sake, John, sit down!"
Posted by: Fox2! at June 16, 2016 10:25 PM (brIR5)
I thought it would be really appropriate if they were distributed to gays.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (EzgxV)
It's similar to my plan which would allow NFL players to use chainsaws.
Posted by: Tears for Fears at June 16, 2016 10:24 PM (mxCgt)
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LOL!
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: David Beckham at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (ZR1fB)
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Bah! Our clinic will do it for $7250.
Posted by: Dr. Quack's Clean-O-Matic Clinic at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 10:27 PM (noWW6)
It's a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM
If I managed that restaurant , second couple would have been told to leave.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2016 10:28 PM (ar1r/)
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Re: the sidebar article on McLame wanting to destroy surplus M-1911s
rather than having the Civilian Marksmanship Program distribute them to
qualified civilians: There is a song in the musical 1776 which is
appropriate.
"Sit down, John. Sit down, John. For God's sake, John, sit down!"
Posted by: Fox2! at June 16, 2016 10:25 PM (brIR5)
I thought it would be really appropriate if they were distributed to gays.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM (EzgxV)
I definitely think Milo should get one.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:28 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:29 PM (rlfds)
Us slightly younger punks were spoiled by the semi-autos from an early age.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (hVdx9)
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I'm 53, and love my Springfield Semis. Wheel guns just always go bang, not that I have had any problems with the Springfields.
I'm semi retired, and the Detective special lightweight works well with summer shorts and living on the boat. The XDs would be annoying by pulling down the shorts.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:29 PM (YLidQ)
The woman of the first couple freaks and starts yelling at my daughter
about being seated in black area. My daughter had to take her back and
show her the fancy software to get her to shut up.
It's a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM
If I managed that restaurant , second couple would have been told to leave.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2016 10:28 PM (ar1r/)
It was the first couple's female who freaked -- why would you ask the second couple to leave???
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:29 PM (EzgxV)
I have found that the guys I see at the range with the snubbies shoot them quite well. They also tend to be in their 50's on up. Nothing wrong with that, it just seems to be a generational thing.
Us slightly younger punks were spoiled by the semi-autos from an early age.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (hVdx9)
The conventional wisdom seems to be that the snubnose revolver really is an expert's CCW gun. Unfortunately, in the past a lot of ill-informed gun shop clerks recommended snubs as good "first-timer's" guns. They're not easy to use effectively at anything more than "press it into the goblin's belly" distance unless you put in a LOT of practice.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
"Sit down, John. Sit down, John. For God's sake, John, sit down!"
Posted by: Fox2! at June 16, 2016 10:25 PM (brIR5)
Jeebus lambada-dancing Cripes. What a fucking jerk.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (0mRoj)
It's a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM
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Which is why I don't work in the service industry.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (rlfds)
What? What did the second couple do?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (MNgU2)
I'm not good enough to handle them well though.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:31 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 16, 2016 10:31 PM (VSenK)
I have found that the guys I see at the range with the snubbies shoot them quite well. They also tend to be in their 50's on up. Nothing wrong with that, it just seems to be a generational thing.
Us slightly younger punks were spoiled by the semi-autos from an early age.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:23 PM (hVdx9)
The conventional wisdom seems to be that the snubnose revolver really is an expert's CCW gun. Unfortunately, in the past a lot of ill-informed gun shop clerks recommended snubs as good "first-timer's" guns. They're not easy to use effectively at anything more than "press it into the goblin's belly" distance unless you put in a LOT of practice.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (LuZz
Yup. The DA pull on those tends to be pretty heavy, which makes keeping your sight picture more difficult. Unless you get a trigger job on it, it's really not a beginner's gun.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:31 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM
What state/county do you live in? (Or at least state) they will probably try to send syrian "refugees" there to change the vote to Dem.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 16, 2016 10:32 PM (ZR1fB)
"Past months have also exposed flaws in the Afghan military -- weak
leadership, lack of professionalism, complacency and corruption,
analysts say."
Past months? The USA has been operating there for fourteen years now. And at the five-sided loony bin on the Potomac, they are just now figuring this stuff out?
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 10:32 PM (noWW6)
It's a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 16, 2016 10:26 PM
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Which is why I don't work in the service industry.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (rlfds)
Me too. I don't have the temperament for it. My first impulse would be to say "Black section? Who the fuck do you think you are?"
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Sharkman at June 16, 2016 10:33 PM (f9vdt)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)
*Looks up Greek translation of 'It's on like Donkey Kong!', since 'Molon Labe' doesn't seem to work very well any more*
Posted by: Sharkman at June 16, 2016 10:33 PM (f9vdt)
Okay, that was pretty stupid, but I still laughed out loud.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:34 PM (LuZz8)
leadership, lack of professionalism, complacency and corruption,
analysts say."
Past months? The USA has been operating there for fourteen years now. And at the five-sided loony bin on the Potomac, they are just now figuring this stuff out?
Posted by: torque wrench at June 16, 2016 10:32 PM (noWW6)
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Shit, weak leadership, lack of professionalism, complacency and corruption...they probably thought the article was about them (nut jobs in five-sided nuthouse).
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:35 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)
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The think I like the most about the Obama era is all the racial healing.
This is by design. 9 years ago nobody would have given this situation a thought.
Now, race is first and foremost.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:36 PM (YLidQ)
I'm semi retired, and the Detective special lightweight works well with summer shorts and living on the boat. The XDs would be annoying by pulling down the shorts.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
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Well, that would be one way to defuse a situation (shorts falling down).
They have been popular for so long exactly for the reasons you stated. They are lightweight and easy to conceal. It has taken years for the gun makers to create semi-autos that are about the same size...and have about the same ammo capacity...hmmm... Why am I feeling tricked?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:36 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
Word! Uh, I mean emacs. Emacs!!
Posted by: Richard M Stallman at June 16, 2016 10:37 PM (ZR1fB)
Software is a cis-normative construct by old white men.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
Word! Uh, I mean emacs. Emacs!!
Posted by: Richard M Stallman at June 16, 2016 10:37 PM (ZR1fB)
MINCE or vi.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:40 PM (EzgxV)
Barry's reality is he hates America as much as ISIS does. They're just going about destroying it in different ways
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 10:41 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: Random lurker at June 16, 2016 10:42 PM (WF5ei)
$421 and they have layaway.
Tell me I don't need it.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 10:41 PM (GILMl)
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One from within.
The other from without.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:42 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:43 PM (MNgU2)
They have been popular for so long exactly for the reasons you stated. They are lightweight and easy to conceal. It has taken years for the gun makers to create semi-autos that are about the same size...and have about the same ammo capacity...hmmm... Why am I feeling tricked?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:36 PM (hVdx9)
*****
I also have a Ruger LCP in 380 and an LC9. They are both small and light, but the bitch is practicing with them. They have very little weight to them, so all the recoil goes into your body via the arm. I can shoot 2 mags of each at the range, max.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:44 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:43 PM (MNgU2)
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Trump was looking to ride Kerry?
Ew.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 16, 2016 10:44 PM (rlfds)
Awww sh*t. Been hankering for a new 1911. Local place has a tricked out (features wise) RIA 1911.
$421 and they have layaway.
Tell me I don't need it.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)
You don't need it. Now, where is this place?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:44 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:43 PM (MNgU2)
*****
So, how is Scankles looking to you?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:45 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:45 PM (7lVbc)
I've shot mine at 5 and 10 yards. The 10 yards was just to see what I could do with it. Wouldn't really expect to use that in real life if an emergency.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 10:46 PM (e859L)
Can't be. Barry the Bottom has them on the run. Oh wait. the attacks have nothing to do with ISIS just guns shooting themselves and killing people
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2016 10:46 PM (GILMl)
Posted by: cthulhu
****
Tombstone Tactical
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zm98em6
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (hVdx9)
Kelly Ayotte
Susan Collins
Jeff Flake
https://tinyurl.com/hqogcx4
With a name like Smuckers, you know it's got to be good!
.Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 04:50 PM (kdS6q)
I believe that's spelled Schmuckers.
Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (j8uQ3)
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Who was it? Just curious.
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (7lVbc)
Just because Hillary is an evil , incompetent bitch doesn't eliminate that fact that Trump is cringe worthy at times.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 16, 2016 04:55 PM (kdS6q)
Fucktard muzzie didn't have an assault weapon. He had a semi-automatic rifle, the like of which has been available in stores for the better part of a century.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 10:48 PM (GSdpU)
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2016 10:48 PM (X35Yt)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:48 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (MNgU2)
*****
Of course. He is now what we have to work with though. Why are you constantly trashing him, knowing this?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:49 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
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That is what I heard about them. No fun to shoot and hard to shoot well. I got rid of a Polish P64 because it was not an enjoyable gun.
If I don't want to practice with it because it isn't fun, I get rid of it.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:50 PM (hVdx9)
Another "Tea Party" candidate that was a Trojan Horse bag of crap.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 10:50 PM (e859L)
You don't need it. Now, where is this place?
Posted by: cthulhu
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Tombstone Tactical
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zm98em6
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:47 PM (hVdx9)
Hmmm....I wonder if they're legal in CA.....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:51 PM (EzgxV)
You can do it, it just takes practice.
Makes those adrenaline fueled cylinder dumps at three yards, just that much more of a sure thing.
Hell, I used to fire a full course of TCLOSE qualifications with a snubbie, just to show it could be done.
Go into it with the attitude that it CAN be done, and you WILL do it, and given enough dedication and practice, you indeed, will.
Besides. It's fun to shoot X ring groups at 7 yards with a snubbie, when the rest of the range can't even stay in the 8 ring, much less produce a "group" vs. a "pattern".
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 10:52 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Kreplach at June 16, 2016 10:52 PM (lgNzO)
You guys are terrible
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (7lVbc)
I was surprised to find out just how loud and unpleasant an LC9 can be when I was shooting at an indoor range a couple of years ago. Guy in the next lane had one, damned thing actually made my ears ring, even with my muffs on. One of the reasons I hate indoor ranges.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: cthulhu
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I would be surprised if they aren't.
Maybe I shouldn't be, tho.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:54 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:54 PM (iQIUe)
Now I want a 1911
You guys are terrible
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (7lVbc)
I'll make it easier -- it's expensive to acquire and maintain proficiency with a .45 v., say, 9mm. You want to shoot what you practice with.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:56 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (LuZz
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Yep. I had actually forgotten about my dislike of the Ruger LCs until this thread. I sense a couple of private sales coming up via www.georgiapacking.org
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:56 PM (YLidQ)
Collins and Flake are just airheads.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2016 10:56 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (ZR1fB)
You guys are terrible
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (7lVbc)
Not our fault. Take it up with John Moses Browning.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (0mRoj)
So it's a 1%er gun.
*sulks*
One day my lotto number will come up, you'll see!
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (7lVbc)
You guys are terrible
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:53 PM (7lVbc)
*****
The posted RIA deal looks like a great one. Do not be shy.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 16, 2016 10:59 PM (YLidQ)
Hmmm....I wonder if they're legal in CA.....
Posted by: cthulhu
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I would be surprised if they aren't.
Maybe I shouldn't be, tho.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 10:54 PM (hVdx9)
CA went to a ridiculous "safety standard" ['cause...they hate guns, period] where a manufacturer has to submit a bunch of 'em to be dropped on concrete, loaded, from 12 feet without a stray shot in order to be put on an "approved" list. A whole lot of manufacturers replied, "fuck you" -- and are, thus, illegal in California.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:59 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:00 PM (zn/Le)
One thing that sucks is that I'm currently building up parts for a retro AR build (XM177E2) that I'd like to get finished before summer ends, but at the same time I really need to find a good CCW piece since I'm waiting on my TX LTC to be processed. Plus, I need to do another round of ammo purchases.......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:00 PM (LuZz8)
So it's a 1%er gun.
*sulks*
One day my lotto number will come up, you'll see!
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (7lVbc)
Not really. I bought a ParaUSA commander model with match grade barrel and fiber optic front sight for $599. The ammo is a bit more expensive than 9mm though, this is true.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:00 PM (0mRoj)
Why do you pronounce it dead? It was false reporting that the asshole who killed her said anything connected to Brexit. Just the British MSM doing what they do best- lying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 16, 2016 08:42 PM (Ozsfq)
I think quite possibly that may work the other way. The average Brit voter, watching the "stay" campaign milking the corpse of the dead Labour MP, may just say, "fuck it, already, I want us out."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:01 PM (GSdpU)
442 That is SWEETNESS! YOU NEED IT!!!
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (0uuiT)
Shush, you!!!! I'm trying to figure out if I can get it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:01 PM (EzgxV)
GOP plays right into the Muslim Brotherhood's hands post Orlando:
https://goo.gl/Nc05CV
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 10:54 PM (iQIUe)
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How long do we put up with this?
Hillary leads Trump 5.8 in the RealClearPolitics average today.
I predict tomorrow it's 6.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:01 PM (5o5ek)
Granted .45 ball isn't ideal, but it beats having no ammo and it's still nothing to sneeze at as far as being effective.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:02 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:02 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 16, 2016 11:03 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Jimmy Page at June 16, 2016 11:03 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:01 PM (GSdpU)
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The In people have made so many desperate claims - the chickens will stop laying and the cows wont give milk!!!1!!! Now the threats are coming from outside of the UK.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (iQIUe)
Hillary leads Trump 5.8 in the RealClearPolitics average today.
I predict tomorrow it's 6.
Polling should have taught us more since 2012. They are all fvckin wrong.
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (zn/Le)
475 Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 10:56 PM (EzgxV)
So it's a 1%er gun.
*sulks*
One day my lotto number will come up, you'll see!
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 10:57 PM (7lVbc)
Not really. I bought a ParaUSA commander model with match grade
barrel and fiber optic front sight for $599. The ammo is a bit more
expensive than 9mm though, this is true.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:00 PM (0mRoj)
There are, for instance, only 2 full-sized 1911-pattern 9mm chambered guns on the CA approved list. Two. One is a Kimber Stainless that's four-figures (but a very nice pistol).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:05 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:05 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:06 PM (0uuiT)
All I know is that when I couldn't find 9mm HP ammo, I could find .45 acp ball ammo all day at ok prices.
Granted .45 ball isn't ideal, but it beats having no ammo and it's still nothing to sneeze at as far as being effective.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:02 PM (hVdx9)
45 Auto ball is a pretty damned effective mankiller, as long as it's at least the old Army standard of a bit more than 800fps.
Plus, it's the only round I enjoy shooting at indoor ranges, because in the right lighting you can actually see that big slug looping downrange.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:06 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:06 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 16, 2016 11:07 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:07 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: Random lurker at June 16, 2016 11:07 PM (WF5ei)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:07 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (C9pBZ)
Stuff is schweet! Right near 1,000 fps, with an expanding .45 as the starting diameter.
Flat trajectory out to fifty yards, too. Shoots point of aim pretty much from 7 to 50 yards.
Bonus. Lighter recoil, quicker recovery, shorter split times.
I'm hoping to get to use one on a hog hunt, just so I can see it's terminal performance in actual bone and tissue. But so far, it's proving to be a favorite for me in that caliber.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:43 PM (MNgU2)
For God's sakes SO WHAT????
He could get bucked off a goat for all I care as long as he stomps the Beast into the ground in November.
Posted by: Blano at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (heN73)
How long do we put up with this?
Hillary leads Trump 5.8 in the RealClearPolitics average today.
I predict tomorrow it's 6.
Polling should have taught us more since 2012. They are all fvckin wrong.
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (zn/Le)
Polling is less than garbage. Pollsters decided to be players instead of referees in 2008, and anyone who figured that out won't give 'em the time of day.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (EzgxV)
And in the endorsement he should mark the Second Amendment as untouchable, tell the Lefties to eat shit, and promise to work his ass off to get Trump elected.
Move your ass, Ted.
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:10 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 16, 2016 10:43 PM (MNgU2)
The Primaries are over, Joe.
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 11:10 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:11 PM (0uuiT)
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The In people have made so many desperate claims - the chickens will stop laying and the cows wont give milk!!!1!!! Now the threats are coming from outside of the UK.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (iQIUe)
I saw a cow reciting Chaucer, and Geoffrey Chaucer, grazing in a field, and mooing, and suckling a young heiffer.
Seriously, after decades of Monty Python and Blackadder satires, how could the British be so fucking gullible?
Spike Milligan doing a skit with a drunken Pakistani Dalek with a hangover. How can they have become such politically correct automata? It's depressing.
Posted by: Vaneltine Dyall at June 16, 2016 11:11 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2016 11:11 PM (oeOT+)
Plus, it's the only round I enjoy shooting at indoor ranges, because in the right lighting you can actually see that big slug looping downrange.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Like they say, a 9mm HP may fail to expand, but a .45 will never shrink.
Made me think when I couldn't find 9mm ammo at all let alone the HP stuff a 9 needs to be most effective.
The recoil on a 1911 isn't bad at all. I heard it compared to .357 mag, and the first time I shot a 1911 I did not agree at all.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: MAx at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (0uuiT)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:00 PM (LuZz
I assume you've previously been to the gun show they're having in Waxahachie this weekend? Was just wondering if you had an opinion.
Posted by: Blano at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (zn/Le)
Stuff is schweet! Right near 1,000 fps, with an expanding .45 as the starting diameter.
Flat trajectory out to fifty yards, too. Shoots point of aim pretty much from 7 to 50 yards.
Bonus. Lighter recoil, quicker recovery, shorter split times.
I'm hoping to get to use one on a hog hunt, just so I can see it's terminal performance in actual bone and tissue. But so far, it's proving to be a favorite for me in that caliber.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
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I've heard good things about that ammo. Keep us posted on the hog hunt results. If it puts those tough critters down it should be good for the two legged goblins too.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:14 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Steve and Cold bear at June 16, 2016 11:16 PM (ZR1fB)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:16 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:17 PM (7lVbc)
Comment, and fear no willow. Take comfort in that you, too, can experience the willowing.
Beats the barrel...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 11:17 PM (C9pBZ)
MAx, they are making it up in volume. lol,
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (zn/Le)
Before you laugh -- http://www.zerohedge.com/news /2016-06-16/smith-wesson-revenues-hit-all-time -high-200-obama-election
And with so many gun manufacturers bailing out of repressive blue states, where real estate is pricey and hiring an employee involves thousands of dollars of government mandates, they now can afford to expand their facilities and hire people.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:17 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: ahole in training at June 16, 2016 11:18 PM (UaPF2)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)
Ask not for whom the ONT tolls
Posted by: @votermom at June 16, 2016 11:17 PM (7lVbc)
Hasn't tolled for me, yet.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)
The original was to overload the welfare system, make it crash and bring in guaranteed incomes and Socialism.
This version is to let ISIS recruit, flood the country (and Europe) with terror sympathizers and use the carnage and chaos to bring in a gun ban and Statism.
An armed citizenry is the only thing that stands athwart the Statist Dream.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 16, 2016 11:19 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:19 PM (hVdx9)
plus it is teh ghey.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 16, 2016 10:05 PM (8WVNP)
Tons of effort for little reward.
Same effort in basketball gets you 100 points.
Posted by: eman at June 16, 2016 10:08 PM (MQEz6)
Soccer and basketball both suck donkey dick as spectator sports. Soccer: nobody hardly ever scores - boring. Basketball: both teams score vast numbers of points - boring.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (GSdpU)
Which part? The getting banned or thinking that Twatter is worth giving two shiites about?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (C9pBZ)
This is getting stupid.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)
Serves him right for exposing Muslims making threats against him. Wait, wut?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (0mRoj)
Milo Yiannopoulos suspended from Twitter...again.
This is getting stupid.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)
Getting?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:21 PM (0mRoj)
Bought my dad a rifle this week for Father's Day. Price was too bad.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 16, 2016 11:21 PM (e859L)
Just say no.
Just say no.
Just say no...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:21 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 11:22 PM (C9pBZ)
Polling should have taught us more since 2012. They are all fvckin wrong.
Posted by: Infidel at June 16, 2016 11:04 PM (zn/Le)
Polling is less than garbage. Pollsters decided to be players instead of referees in 2008, and anyone who figured that out won't give 'em the time of day.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (EzgxV)
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Okay. But I'm still depressed.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:22 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
Yeah, you're right. It went full retard long, long ago.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 16, 2016 11:23 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:08 PM (EzgxV)
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Okay. But I'm still depressed.
Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 16, 2016 11:22 PM (5o5ek)
Well, this is a really stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:23 PM (0mRoj)
Comprehensive amnesty, for all those banned during the bitter Trump flame wars here, both pro and con, who tried ace's patience past the breaking point. Ace admits Hillary is unacceptable, something we all agree on, except for Maurice. Let's let bygones be bygones.
Posted by: Jeb! at June 16, 2016 11:23 PM (ZR1fB)
It's brass, for about a penny per round more than the Federal aluminum-cased stuff
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 16, 2016 11:24 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Mr. Khan at June 16, 2016 11:24 PM (3uOKP)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 16, 2016 11:25 PM (C9pBZ)
It's brass, for about a penny per round more than the Federal aluminum-cased stuff
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 16, 2016 11:24 PM (KCxzN)
Nope. Never heard of it before, actually.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2016 11:20 PM (GSdpU)
Just a bunch of fucking tattooed ballerinas anymore.
Any pretty boy can stand outside and shoot 3's.
Basketball was much more fun when roughhousing was the norm.
Posted by: Blano at June 16, 2016 11:25 PM (heN73)
Cooth, you see my # 500 post? It does appear to be CA legal.
Just say no.
Just say no.
Just say no...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:21 PM (hVdx9)
Your link -- though it looked valid, and I tried it -- didn't make it past browser security. If I were really desperate for the data, I'd have to spin-up a VM to read it.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:26 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2016 11:26 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2016 11:26 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (EzgxV)
The fine print on the box says it's "distributed by TULAMMO USA"
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 16, 2016 11:03 PM (J+mig)
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The why of it is that Caesar is a jealous god who cannot bear the Judeo-Christian prophetic tradition, the belief that there is something greater than the state to which even an emperor must answer.
The totalitarian mind revolts against the limited state and hates everything that claims a higher loyalty, whether it is custom, tradition, a Constitution, or a God.
Caesar is the source of all "rights" and all right.
He must not be judged.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2016 11:31 PM (T/5A0)
Well crud. Sorry. It was a list of CA legal firearms. That 1911 was on it. .
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 16, 2016 11:27 PM (hVdx9)
Don't be sorry, I appreciate the effort. It's just that the obvious security posture is "clamp down on everything" instead of "design a comprehensive approach".
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2016 11:36 PM (EzgxV)
I assume you've previously been to the gun show they're having in Waxahachie this weekend? Was just wondering if you had an opinion.
Posted by: Blano at June 16, 2016 11:12 PM (heN73)
The Waxahachie show is usually pretty small, kind of sucky actually. Tends to be more old shotguns and hunting rifles. Which is fine if there's some interesting pieces, but the last show I went to, I kept thinking "hmmmph, generic grandpa guns". But it's about a mile drive from my place, so it's a wash.
Best bet for a wide range of shooty goodness is the larger shows in Ft Worth, Lewisville or Mesquite etc.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2016 11:37 PM (LuZz8)
Milo's account is back. He has no idea what twitter is doing. But since he is the only one who has this problem, fukc twitter.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 16, 2016 11:38 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: bour3 at June 17, 2016 02:14 AM (8b5vi)
In case one doesn't know what I'm talking about, the US beat Ecuador in the first Copa America quarterfinal match tonight, 2-1.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2016 02:26 AM (0JSRZ)
.....The Obama Administration is already under fire for producing an average real GDP growth of just 1.55 percent for their its 7 years in office.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jqvxo7o
So 1.55-2=???
The economy's been contracting over Barry's Glorious Tenure? No surprise there.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2016 07:39 AM (uz/Pv)
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