Poll: Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump's Judge Statements "Racist"

And yet nearly 100% of the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class found them "racist."

So what can we determine based on this?

Well, here are the possibilities:

1. That the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class are simply better -- smarter, more perceptive, more moral -- than the stupid fucking American voters they hover above on their gossamer thrones of cloudwisp and starshine.

2. That the media, GOP establishment, and conservative intellectual class share similar cultural/class inputs which lead them to think in exactly the same way, and the lack of intellectual diversity among them tends to make them miss things that other people know, and furthermore, their intellectual insularity -- forever talking only to each other, and carefully curating out of their timelines anyone from any different sort of background -- then hardens them in their unchallenged opinion.

For example, Ginch Bangwell (Kurt Schlichter), who is a practicing lawyer, said the first thing every lawyer does when he gets a judge assigned to a case is check his background.

But, to hear the professional middle class/media/conservative intellectual class tell it, such calculations and guesses are wholly inappropriate and are textbook racism and no one who is involved in a legal matter should ever make guesses about judge behavior based on "profiling."

Or, as a commenter put it here: Certainly, it is not the case that every prosecutor tries to stirke as many black women from a jury as the constitution will permit, and every defense attorney definitely does not try to strike every middle-aged white man from the jury.

I mean -- it's ideologically forbidden. And Theory is all that matters in the real world.

Theory's all that matters, guys. And certainly an Intellectual Class should be proud and even arrogant about its utter lack of contact with the real world.

Unchallenged unanimity of opinion is healthy in any intellectual tradition!

Once upon a time, conservatives prided themselves on being more practically-minded than their ideologically-possessed liberal brethren. They'd roll their eyes at the most strident, Strong Form, Politically Correct and Pure claims about the absolute inappropriateness of ever taking race or background into account -- whether choosing who to give additional screenings to on TSA lines, or who to pat down for contraband or guns, or even who to cross the street to avoid late at night.

No more. The conservative intellectual class has now embraced the most airy-fairy disconnected-from-any-tangible-reality Strong Form of political correctness long urged by the left, and it all took to get them to agree to this was to have it be momentarily convenient in making the case against Trump.

By the Way: On Trump's comments, you could claim he said one of two different things:

1. That every Hispanic must be "unable to do his job" due to his "heritage," as the intellectuals and the media prefer to claim.

2. That Trump guessed that the judge probably didn't like his position on the Wall -- something the media usually agrees with (when they put up their polls showing 85% of Hispanics disapproving of Trump and the Wall), and which Hillary agrees with -- or else why would she use Trump's wall comments to attempt to sway Hispanic opinion?

When Hillary's surrogates say they're going to tie the Wall around every Republican's neck -- I assume there's a reason for doing that, right? I assume Hispanics are not up in the air about it. I assume they sort of have an opinion, right?

But the intellectuals find that there's a little too much nuance in the last formulation of the charge, and intellectuals like moving around words to make ideological steel traps out of nothing at all, and they also like making things easy for themselves (they're kind of lazy, and prefer to argue against the most absurd version of an opponent's claim they can imagine rather than the strongest version of an opponent's claim they can imagine), so they all naturally chose Version One.

Or, let me adjust that claim: It may be that intellectuals like mental exertion and considering difficult questions.

Ideologues, however, do not enjoy this, and prefer things to be as simple and Beyond Any Possible Question and The Science is Settled as possible.

Posted by: Ace at 06:25 PM

Comments

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1 We going to go round on this again?

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2016 06:28 PM (B48dK)

2 Whut?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 06:28 PM (jR7Wy)

3 I you hear him say the words, it is racist, if you did not hear him, and only heard reports, you can vary in what you believe. What Trump said WAS racist. It is the job of all those people you listed to actually listen to what Trump said, so they are pretty much all going to come the obvious conclusion, what Trump said was racist, was based upon race, and was intended to make someone submissive due to their race.

Posted by: astonerii at June 10, 2016 06:29 PM (o/DjS)

4
Ace, the book "Bird By Bird," is it shit or not shit?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:29 PM (e+dTU)

5 Projection. It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: nip at June 10, 2016 06:29 PM (r73Jl)

6 I found the comments racist.

But that is a given when discussing some assclown who associates himself with an organization called "The Race Lawyers" (who invented their own race to represent).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 06:29 PM (P/kVC)

7
"I've been a lawyer all my life and I've never heard anything like this before, to suggest that a judge can't fairly decide a case because of where his parents were born is a new low in a campaign with plenty of lows. I think it's un-American."

Sen. Lindsey Graham, SC - The Fairest Magnolia in all of Dixie

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2016 06:30 PM (kdS6q)

8
Lindsey Graham:

[x] Cocksucker

[ ] Not A Cocksucker

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:32 PM (e+dTU)

9 Graham is a liar.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 06:33 PM (iQIUe)

10 Eh.

ace, its all play acting and faux outrage. If it wasn't about La Raza judges, it would be about something else.

Like maybe dogs on the roofs of vehicles.

or binders full of women.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:33 PM (AkOaV)

11 or binders full of women.

Or 47%

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:34 PM (O2RFr)

12 The country and its people are becoming ever more ethnically and racially intermingled and yet racism is the defining issue for America? Still?

They just have to stir the pot (but not a melting pot!)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 06:34 PM (jR7Wy)

13 Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump's Judge Statements "Racist"

F**k those cucks!!1!

Posted by: Not in Kansas anymore at June 10, 2016 06:35 PM (vBeA5)

14 The problem with Ace's analysis is that Trump is dog whistling to actual racists.

But then what do I know, I'm just some neocon cuck crypto-Hillary supporter, right?

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:36 PM (vBeA5)

15 He could have said it better that's for sure.... But the Judge does belong to a Lawyers group of La Raza, and this group has been boycotting Trump enterprises so I'd say he has a valid point...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:37 PM (O2RFr)

16 >> "I've been a lawyer all my life

"The defense requests a 10-minute recess to change lead counsel's diapers."

Posted by: JEM at June 10, 2016 06:37 PM (o+SC1)

17 Also, 50% of the people could have seen all of the coverage and hence now know how to think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 06:37 PM (3ZoRf)

18 Posted by: astonerii at June 10, 2016 06:29 PM (o/DjS)

Your post is racist.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 06:37 PM (g6yUI)

19 Poll: Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump's Judge Statements "Racist"

I thought they were just stupid with a smell of rank bigotry.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2016 06:37 PM (YEelc)

20 What Trump did was even worse than calling a klucker a honky.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 06:38 PM (P/kVC)

21 14 The problem with Ace's analysis is that Trump is dog whistling to actual racists.

But then what do I know, I'm just some neocon cuck crypto-Hillary supporter, right?
Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:36 PM (vBeA5)

Hat,
The interesting thing about "dog whistles" is that it's all about how you interpret things.

How many "actual racists" do you think there really are in the country? Enough to be a real political force? Out and proud racists?

I think twitter has created a very false impression on how large of a group we're talking about.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:38 PM (AkOaV)

22 Poll: Exactly Half of Voters Found Trump's Judge Statements "Racist"

Where's the poll numbers on Hillary's IG report? Non-existent I see...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:38 PM (O2RFr)

23 Donald Trump's campaign died again today for 1,064th time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 06:39 PM (Nwg0u)

24 How many "actual racists" do you think there really are in the country? Enough to be a real political force? Out and proud racists?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:38 PM (AkOaV)

Enough to get Trump the nomination.

Enough to give the Democrats a huge win in November.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:39 PM (vBeA5)

25 Donald Trump's campaign died again today for 1,064th time.

At Cassius Clay's funeral...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:39 PM (O2RFr)

26 The problem with Ace's analysis is that Trump is dog whistling to actual racists.

If you hear the whistle, you're the dog.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (g6yUI)

27
How many "actual racists" do you think there
really are in the country? Enough to be a real political force? Out and
proud racists?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:38 PM (AkOaV)

I'm pretty sure most of them spoke at the Ali memorial today.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (1ZOkK)

28 Okay, with the ship video, why does the bridge sound like a bunch of high schoolers running the ship. They're in high seas and someone is taping on their phone?

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (Ee2nz)

29 Ace,

100% of the media didn't THINK the comment was racist. They were afraid that everyone else in their circle would think it was so they had to let everyone know how racist they thought it was.

Nobody with a functioning brain think the comment was racist. The 50% polled also don't think it's racist. They just lie to pollsters.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (0LHZx)

30 No, Hat, you're just probably wrong, and vastly over-determining this.

Trump saying something untoward, working a ref in a legal game, is sort of the definition of Trump for his entire public life. Ill-considered, by conventional standards, ill-advised, in the eyes of most lawyers he's paying to do his legal stuff.

So, Trump being Trump. But if you want to find "dog whistles" in everything, or lots of things, go right ahead. I think the full master plan is filed right there up on the shelf with Obama's "I'm Muslim" and "I Intend to Destroy the Country!" master plans.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (QDnY+)

31 gotta be a dog to hear a dog whistle

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (Cq0oW)

32 This is called MSM bitch slapping.

Sort of like the Ferguson effect, only on chicken shit politicians that don't want to hear bad stuff at the next DC cocktail party about them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (jJRIy)

33 Donald Trump's campaign died again today for 1,064th time.

Billy Crystal to deliver clothes-rending eulogy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (g6yUI)

34
If all the racists are voting for Trump, then how in the hell is Hillary Clinton gonna win?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (e+dTU)

35 The judge comment didn't happen in a vacuum. Trump had already established that he was pandering to white tribalism. Just because the other side does it doesn't mean it's right -- and we call them on it too, as do you Ace.

Of course had the judge comment happened in a vacuum no one would have heard it because sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (Koq2Z)

36 Trump's problem is his ego.

He has no campaign. He is David with a stone, the stone being himself, versus Goliath, except Goliath has his army with him this time.

He is so stupid he thinks he can win with free airtime, phoning in from his bedroom, and going on with Hannity every night, which Hannity will let happen indefinitely.

It won't work. He needs all the things a campaign can do.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (U6f54)

37 I have no love for Secretary Clinton, but this man Trump concerns me with his racist, sexist, xenophobic and homophobic statements! I was golfing just the other day with my 3 stout Republicsn friends and we all discussed how very concerned we were!!

Posted by: Chatsworth Brock Monahan, IV of the Beacon Hill Monahans at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (pJzwU)

38 Polls!! More polls!!

Florida
Trump +1 over hillzebub

Pennsylvania
Trump tied with same.

DooM!!!!

Where's Monty when you need him?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (WVsWD)

39 Themselves, not them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at June 10, 2016 06:41 PM (jJRIy)

40 Had the Trumpster come out and said that he questioned the judge's objectivity because of his (the judges) association with the La Raza lawyers group, and in light of Trump's comments about building the wall, he could have built a better case. But because Trump said that the judge was unfair because he was mexican gave the perpetually aggrieved ammunition.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 10, 2016 06:42 PM (9iR5/)

41 Enough to give the Democrats a huge win in November.

Posted by: at June 10, 2016 06:39 PM (vBeA5)

Because they historically vote democrat.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 06:42 PM (P/kVC)

42 40 Had the Trumpster come out and said that he questioned the judge's objectivity because of his (the judges) association with the La Raza lawyers group, and in light of Trump's comments about building the wall, he could have built a better case. But because Trump said that the judge was unfair because he was mexican gave the perpetually aggrieved ammunition.

yup...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (O2RFr)

43 I thought that only people with a show on msnbc could hear dog whistles

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (6Ll1u)

44 Exactly 100% of the GOPe, the media and all pundits and talking heads do not know the meaning of the words "Rayciss", or Bigot, or Prejudiced or just talking out of one's ass as one does sometimes by just being a human being.

Ass clowns.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (ej1L0)

45 OT - What did Warren and Hillary talk about today? Was there a lot of ring kissing? Did they sit in a teepee and blow smoke rings together?

Posted by: IC at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (a0IVu)

46 The only problem with ace's analysis is his use of the word "intellectual" for almost any of the targets of his well-grounded scorn.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (QDnY+)

47 He could have said it better that's for sure.... But the Judge does
belong to a Lawyers group of La Raza, and this group has been boycotting
Trump enterprises so I'd say he has a valid point...

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Trump was trying to say that the judge was unfair to him because he ideologically opposed Trump, and screwed it up big time.

Then Trump got lucky in that someone else publicized the La Raza connection shortly afterward.

And yet Trump is still preferable to Clinton.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (YEelc)

48 T. Rump has little hands. T. Rex has little arms. Didn't keep either of them from swallowing their enemies.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (Nwg0u)

49 From a pragmatic standpoint, one has to ask if his retarded phrasing make him more likely to win, or less?

I have no idea personally if it hurts his electoral success or not and don't much care, but his supporters might ask themselves that.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 06:44 PM (ozZau)

50 Trump's problem is his ego.

and his biggest asset.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 06:44 PM (Cq0oW)

51 50 Trump's problem is his ego.

and his biggest asset.

Hillary's is Her big ass...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:45 PM (O2RFr)

52 And yet Trump is still preferable to Clinton.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (YEelc)

___

Short of promising to personally kill me and everyone I know....regardless of what he says or does, he will be better than Hillary.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:45 PM (0LHZx)

53 I thought that only people with a show on msnbc could hear dog whistles

- - - - -

No, but when you blow the dog whistle, see what comes running from MSNBC.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 10, 2016 06:45 PM (08Znv)

54 Themselves, not them.

____

those guys, not the others

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 06:45 PM (Cq0oW)

55
Pssssssst.......wanna buy a widget?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2016 06:45 PM (LuZz8)

56 If I were Trump, I sure as hell wouldnt want this judge hearing my case because he is pro amnesty and a member of a racist organisation.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 06:46 PM (iQIUe)

57 No, Hat, you're just probably wrong, and vastly over-determining this.

Trump saying something untoward, working a ref in a legal game, is sort of the definition of Trump for his entire public life. Ill-considered, by conventional standards, ill-advised, in the eyes of most lawyers he's paying to do his legal stuff.

So, Trump being Trump. But if you want to find "dog whistles" in everything, or lots of things, go right ahead. I think the full master plan is filed right there up on the shelf with Obama's "I'm Muslim" and "I Intend to Destroy the Country!" master plans.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 06:40 PM (QDnY+)

Just go ahead and keep ignoring Trump's achilles heal.

The media will use the Alt-right against him, other Republicans, and ironically White people in general.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:46 PM (vBeA5)

58 Yeah, and no competent lawyer is going to take their analysis and run around spouting it to every media outlet they can find. You're not going to find a skilled lawyer blabbing "Well, Judge Soandso is black, so obviously we're anticipating a more favorable verdict for our black client", even though they're probably taking that into account for their strategy.

That's just winning a court case, not running for President. How is Trump going to win if half of freaking America thinks he's spouting racist shit?

He's not. This whole election he's going to constantly sabotage whatever slim chance he had of winning. Hillary couldn't have manufactured a more perfect opponent.

Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 06:46 PM (CZaQB)

59 The only problem with ace's analysis is his use of the word "intellectual" for almost any of the targets of his well-grounded scorn.--------rhomboid

Psuedo-intellectual would have been better, but we know what he meant.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 10, 2016 06:47 PM (m3iiU)

60 He's not. This whole election he's going to constantly sabotage whatever slim chance he had of winning. Hillary couldn't have manufactured a more perfect opponent.

Have to agree...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

61 gotta be a dog to hear a dog whistle

-
It's a rat race only if you race with rats. The Trump campaign is a rat race.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 06:48 PM (Nwg0u)

62 Short of promising to personally kill me and everyone I
know....regardless of what he says or does, he will be better than
Hillary.

But then again, so is my dog. Golden retriever, BTW, so the hair color is pretty much the same.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 10, 2016 06:48 PM (YEelc)

63
It would've been nice if the blown up airliner returned to news cycle today while all those Shit were blowing Cassius Clay.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:49 PM (e+dTU)

64 If I were Trump, I sure as hell wouldnt want this judge hearing my case because he is pro amnesty and a member of a racist organisation.---------Bruce With a Wang!

But they PROMISE it's not THAT organization and has no connection to it. Oh, and they didn't know the person they gave the grant to was an illegal.
Swearsies.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 10, 2016 06:49 PM (m3iiU)

65 The media will use the Alt-right against him, other Republicans, and ironically White people in general.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:46 PM (vBeA5)

Oh fuck you. They would use that for ANYONE. This is quite possibly one of the dumbest arguments out there. "They're going to use XYZ against all Republicans." They do that anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (bMG0w)

66 Wish the Chinese food would hurry up and get here.

*looks sideways at cat*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (1ZOkK)

67 It is astonishing, in that contemporary utterly unsurprising, routine sort of sense, that a judge can maintain ties (and not trivial ones) with an organization directly involved in "helping" people in violation of the law.

BTW, CA judges now cannot be affiliated with the Boy Scouts (unless that's been changed). No, I'm not kidding.

Oh - and another related thing. Illegal aliens - people who should not be in the country, other than to be appearing at deportation hearings or in the pipeline of appeals or actual deportation - are allowed to serve as officers of the court (attorneys allowed to work in the court) in CA.

Unless THAT, also, has been changed.

But the crisis is a brash loudmouth continuing to be a brash loudmouth for the 4th decade.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (QDnY+)

68 Trump's problem is his ego.

-
Hillz has no character problem on account of she ain't got none.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (Nwg0u)

69 Ace,

You are being disingenuous here. While 50% of the public said the comments were clearly racist, only 16% said the comments were "Not racist, and are acceptable".

16%, which coincidentally is about the percentage of the voting public which are hard-core Trumpkins and never admit their Man-God has ever done anything wrong.

Trump could call the judge "a filthy spic who should die a slow painful death from butt cancer" and the 16% of America that are brain dead Trumpkins would say the comment was "acceptable".

Posted by: Ronnie One at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (+ONch)

70 The best best Trump has to win is to shut the f**k up about what he thinks and tell his rabid supporters to shut the f**k up about Trump.

Go 100% negative on Hillary will work.

Attacking people who have misgivings about Trump as "pseudo-intellectuals", the "establishment", "cucks", or outright Hillary supporters is no way to grow an electoral minority into a majority... or even a plurality.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (vBeA5)

71
Xemselves, not xhem.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (kdS6q)

72 Speaking of polls

All these polls came out today:

Obama Approve/Disapprove

Gallup: Approve +6
Rasmussen: Tie
YouGov: DISapprove +6

But yea...polls!!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (0LHZx)

73
Most voters never heard of alt-right and don't care.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (e+dTU)

74 Saw some guy on TV once say that all white people are born racist and there's just nothing they can do about it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (IqV8l)

75 >>>60 He's not. This whole election he's going to constantly sabotage whatever slim chance he had of winning. Hillary couldn't have manufactured a more perfect opponent.

Have to agree...
Posted by: donna

..

I can't argue he's a good candidate. I have repeatedly said he's quite a bad one, and I stand by that.

But I'll also be damned if I accept the Strong Form of Political Correctness I've fought against for decades just because the #NeverTrumpers (who are sort of liberal on such matters in the first place) find it momentarily advantageous to adopt it.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (dciA+)

76 This is going to be a long, miserable summer. And I'm not talking about the weather.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (1ZOkK)

77 Hey guys guess what. If we go with Trump then the media is going to accuse Republicans of being racists and hating minorities!

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (bMG0w)

78 I can't argue he's a good candidate. I have repeatedly said he's quite a bad one, and I stand by that.

But I'll also be damned if I accept the Strong Form of Political Correctness I've fought against for decades just because the #NeverTrumpers (who are sort of liberal on such matters in the first place) find it momentarily advantageous to adopt it.

I'm not a nevertrump... I just wish someone would sew His mouth shut...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:52 PM (O2RFr)

79 Fox Poll has Clinton winning by 3 whether it's a 2 way race or a 3 way race with Johnson. And regardless of the poll or themargin, this is pretty common, looks like Johnson is pulling votes equally, and maybe a little more from Hillary in most other polls I've seen.

But again...who the fuck knows since polling is also all over the place.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:52 PM (0LHZx)

80 >>>You are being disingenuous here. While 50% of the public said the comments were clearly racist, only 16% said the comments were "Not racist, and are acceptable".

what do you imagine the 34% thought? Obviously they don't particularly care.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (dciA+)

81
It would've been nice if the blown up airliner returned to news cycle today

Whatever happened to those black boxes anyway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (IqV8l)

82 But yea...polls!!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (0LHZx)

Word.

Posted by: Romney/Ryan 2012 at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (vBeA5)

83 Ok now. I guess as a trump supporter I have to admit that I'm a alt+right racist.

Ok I admit it.

Now.

What's for lunch?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (WVsWD)

84 >>>
I'm not a nevertrump... I just wish someone would sew His mouth shut...
Posted by: donna

and I wish that the GOP would actually grow some balls and just replace him with Tom Cotton.

But if wishes were fishes, all men would have a nice lunch.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (dciA+)

85 Had the Trumpster come out and said that he questioned the judge's objectivity because of his (the judges) association with the La Raza lawyers group, and in light of Trump's comments about building the wall, he could have built a better case

Nope, that's far too many words for the average voter with the attention span of a goldfish and understanding of the political situation involved with La Raza etc...

Easier, and even more effective to say exactly what he did.

Posted by: GMan at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (JFwxz)

86 77 Hey guys guess what. If we go with Trump then the media is going to accuse Republicans of being racists and hating minorities!
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (bMG0w)

_____

Dude, that;s c talk, We better nominate McCain who will be treated with respect by the MSM since he's fully onboard Team Amnesty.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (0LHZx)

87 " Oh fuck you. They would use that for ANYONE. This
is quite possibly one of the dumbest arguments out there. "They're
going to use XYZ against all Republicans." They do that anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (bMG0w)"
Other Republicans try not to 100% play into it.
How many other Republicans get half of the country thinking they're racist? How many other Republicans get a significant number of their own fucking party believing it? Why do you think Trump's unfavorables are so high?

Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (CZaQB)

88 The American chattering classes are as obsessed with race as was any 19th Century phrenologist measuring people's crania with a pair of calipers. Idiots, all of them.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (/WPPJ)

89 I think it's time we relinquish all pretense of a single set of standards and giving people the benefit of the doubt, and admit that when it comes to the GOP and cultural conservatives, they are by default bigoted/racist/homophobic/misogynist/Islamaphobic blah blah blah.
Maybe we could refer to it as "normal-privileged"?

That way we can recognize that with situations like this, it's not that "OMG - we've discovered Trump is a racist!", it is really "OMG - we knew Trump was a racist (because of his normal-privilegedness) and we've finally found the proof of it!!"

So, so sick of this game.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (NOIQH)

90 Who are the biggest racists? The left! Ad since the MSM are all leftards, the MSM.

They call you a racist, call them a racist right back.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (iQIUe)

91
You are being disingenuous here. While 50% of the public said the comments were clearly racist, only 16% said the comments were "Not racist, and are acceptable".

No it is you who is full of shit and stupid.

35% thought it wasn't racist, definitively, and another 15% didn't give a shit enough to care! That's 50% who DoNotGiveAFuck.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (e+dTU)

92 and I wish that the GOP would actually grow some balls and just replace him with Tom Cotton.

But if wishes were fishes, all men would have a nice lunch.

A girl can wish can't She...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (O2RFr)

93 Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (vBeA5)

You are assuming that they could be persuaded otherwise. They will never vote for an outsider or someone who fails to ascribe to their self assigned 'elite' status.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (hjZjI)

94 Enough to get Trump the nomination.

Enough to give the Democrats a huge win in November.
Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:39 PM (vBeA5)

Hat, I think (but cant prove) that the people you're seeing on twitter or disqus are really a very small minority of people. Like in the dozens.

And who knows if they're on somebodies payroll or not? And who cares, really?

I don't know -- I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm really not hearing these "dog whistles" and "racist language" everyone else is hearing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (AkOaV)

95 70 The best best Trump has to win is to shut the f**k up about what he thinks and tell his rabid supporters to shut the f**k up about Trump.

Go 100% negative on Hillary will work.

Attacking people who have misgivings about Trump as "pseudo-intellectuals", the "establishment", "cucks", or outright Hillary supporters is no way to grow an electoral minority into a majority... or even a plurality.
Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (vBeA5)

Misgivings?

Those who attack with vigor have little to stand on when they later plead for restraint.

Was that directed at you? Only you know that.

Posted by: eman at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (fzeQY)

96 >>>You are being disingenuous here. While 50% of the public said the comments were clearly racist, only 16% said the comments were "Not racist, and are acceptable".

what do you imagine the 34% thought? Obviously they don't particularly care.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (dciA+)

But that 34% is swayable.

Calling them "cucks" or "establishment tools" ain't exactly the best strategy to win them over.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (vBeA5)

97
Whatever happened to those black boxes anyway?

Oh, I dunno. Probably found them and are editing out all the "alahu akbars!" it recorded.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (e+dTU)

98 The GOPe hit me upside the head and dumped my body in Mexico. I just got back. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Ward Connerly at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (X4FeV)

99 Saw some guy on TV once say that all white people are born racist and there's just nothing they can do about it.

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It's in our KKKNA.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (Nwg0u)

100
The democrats goal is not to help people but to create second class citizens for a never ending supply of gardeners and child care.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (iQIUe)

101 Saw some guy on TV once say that all white people are born racist and there's just nothing they can do about it.

Posted by: at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (IqV8l)

They could join La Raza Whatever so people don't think they are a white racist.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (P/kVC)

102 Ace, I'm so sorry I thought you were Ginch...you sound much more rational.

Oh, and right now rank and file GOP are very paranoid and PC in public meetings..get them aside somewhere and they do know the score. It's just that there's always some edgy loudmouths on a central committee somewhere that make us all look like Bull Connor..

Overcompensation, I guess you could call it.

Posted by: Jeanne del norte at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (eG5Q2)

103
Ok I admit it.
Now.
What's for lunch?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois

Chicken. Alt-white meat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (IqV8l)

104 Yeesh! Fox playing Trump speaking about the importance of family and faith.

*facepalm*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (1ZOkK)

105 >>Other Republicans try not to 100% play into it.

So true!!

And yet.....other Republicans don't punch back.
AT this point, I'm not sure Trump's way is a winning approach, but it sure beats doing the same thing that has failed again and again and again.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (NOIQH)

106 The idea that I'm racist if I guess that (for example) a New York Jew is liberal and votes Democratic and would be an adverse judge against me in a case in which politics was implicated is, how do I put this, disconnected from reality and entirely insane.

Now, I may be wrong. There are a fair number of conservative new York jews (and 90% of them are on this blog, as a matter of fact!).

But being wrong in a perfectly reasonable guess is not "racist."

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:57 PM (dciA+)

107 If we lose this election and they open the flood gates, we will never have a conservative majority again. And if anyone tells me that hispanics are natural conservatives, I will throat punch you.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 06:57 PM (iQIUe)

108 Trump: People of faith who go to work and church and work in religious charities.

Ermm..

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:57 PM (1ZOkK)

109 Just go ahead and keep ignoring Trump's achilles heal.

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anonymous internet trolls said awful shit on Twitter!

o noes

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 06:57 PM (Cq0oW)

110
What's funny is that Political Hat has used the word "cuck" in explaining the word's usage epidemic amongst Trump supporters at least 100X more than you'll ever find on the internet.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (e+dTU)

111 But that 34% is swayable.

Calling them "cucks" or "establishment tools" ain't exactly the best strategy to win them over.
Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (vBeA5)

But it makes them feel good. And lets them vent their frustration with Trump at an acceptable target.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (3ZoRf)

112 >>>
Calling them "cucks" or "establishment tools" ain't exactly the best strategy to win them over.

i didn't call them either. but the people i'm talking about are in fact: the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class (or what passes for one).

If you don't like accurate words which describe actual reality, what fake words shall I use in their stead?

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (dciA+)

113 "cuck

Don't want to sound stupid but what is that?

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (O2RFr)

114 104 Yeesh! Fox playing Trump speaking about the importance of family and faith.

*facepalm*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (1ZOkK)

I was hoping he'd pick Newt for his running mate so we could have a ticket with six wives. That would be awesome.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (ozZau)

115 I'm not a Trump fanboi, but I predict I hit the point where I want Mitt to shut the fuck up is going to be ten minutes ago.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (pJzwU)

116 and I wish that the GOP would actually grow some balls and just replace him with Tom Cotton.

But if wishes were fishes, all men would have a nice lunch.
Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (dciA+)
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Ace, I am a fan of Cotton as well, not least because if he were running for president, there's a good chance he would get fed up with asinine questions from the media and start caning someone about the head and shoulders right in front of the cameras. He just has that look about him.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (jR7Wy)

117 I'm going to vote for Trump. But I wish he would carry a damned teleprompter everywhere he goes.

Like Barry did. And the wispy Marxist got elected because Historic and Great Orator.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (1ZOkK)

118 With Ellmer's getting her ass handed to her (if she'd won, I'd never have forgiven Trump), and Ryan and McConnell being complete ass hats, I'm more supportive of Trump than ever.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (4ueYo)

119 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 06:56 PM (IqV8l)

I LoL'ed

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (WVsWD)

120 Hat, I'm not "ignoring" anything. You, however, are "predicting" that this (whatever this is) is Trump's "Achilles' heel". You may end up being right. But I'm not "ignoring" anything.

But this has been a striking thing here at the HQ since You Know Who won his first primary.

Those most upset, or most ostentatious in their distress that Trump will be the nominee, are ceaselessly imputing things to those who do not participate in that particular pageant.

And jeebus if the "Alt-Right," all 187 of them or whatever, can be used against a GOP nominee, then the nominee isn't the problem. And see another's less gracious reaction above, wherein the obvious is repeated for the umpteenth time that GOP candidates are slimed with the most absurd and (actually) offensive nonsense, always. Romney, Mitt, 2012, a fairly recent example everyone will recall.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 06:59 PM (QDnY+)

121 You know who I fucking hate? Ben Sasse. That fuckhead never even supported Cruz, but is now all in for #NeverTrump? What an idiot.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:01 PM (4ueYo)

122 So! Hookers from Greenland - is this a thing?

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 07:01 PM (e3bId)

123 many in the GOP now agree with the liberal media: All it takes to prove one's virulent racism is to support the GOP nominee for president.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:01 PM (dciA+)

124 121 You know who I fucking hate? Ben Sasse. That fuckhead never even supported Cruz, but is now all in for #NeverTrump? What an idiot.

But He's gotta save His phony baloney job!

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:01 PM (O2RFr)

125 Dude, that;s c talk, We better nominate McCain who will be treated with respect by the MSM since he's fully onboard Team Amnesty.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (0LHZx)

Misgivings?

Those who attack with vigor have little to stand on when they later plead for restraint.

Was that directed at you? Only you know that.

Posted by: eman at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (fzeQY)

Prime examples of why I won't associate myself with Trump in any way, shape, or form.

It is the idiotic assumption that if you aren't on the Trump Train, than you are a "elistist establishment" sell-out who loves illegal aliens and selling out to Democrats.

I am neither one of those squishes, nor a Trump supporter.

Condemning me as something that I am not in order to get my loyalty is something that might work at the kindergarten (or college campus), but it won't work on me.

Yet, there are those who are so obsessed with grand plots and evil schemes of a handful of pundits that the vast majority of Americans don't give one s**t about, while concomitantly dismissing the "alt-right" as just a few "twitter trolls".

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (vBeA5)

126
Medium chain triglycerides.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (e+dTU)

127 Love Tom Cotton. Wish he could be Trump's running mate, and then in four years, Yowza.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (1ZOkK)

128 110
What's funny is that Political Hat has used the word "cuck" in explaining the word's usage epidemic amongst Trump supporters at least 100X more than you'll ever find on the internet.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (e+dTU)

____

The only reason I know about the word is because I read about it here. Other than that I don't think I've ever seen it anywhere else.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (0LHZx)

129
The nevertrumps are like the losers of 2008 and 2012 --- they wont fcking fight back against the left! I want someone to fight mean and dirty.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (iQIUe)

130 Ace writes 150 paragraphs to avoid using the world cuckservative.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (di/ST)

131 Why do you think Trump's unfavorables are so high?

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maybe - maybe- its time to rethink the importance of unfavorable stats. at least for this cycle. favorability can be manipulated, sometimes easily. but the public is fickle, so maybe it comes down to timing.

i think, since Hilary is also highly unfavorable, trump needs to run her lower still and only let up to shine himself up closer to the actual election

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:03 PM (Cq0oW)

132
But that 34% is swayable.

Swayable about what? either you think something is racist or you don't.

Posted by: flawless Male Logic at June 10, 2016 07:03 PM (lKyWE)

133 Mr Magoo says;
"No it is you who is full of shit and stupid.

35% thought it wasn't racist, definitively, and another 15% didn't give a shit enough to care! That's 50% who DoNotGiveAFuck."

Oh boy, we got a nasty Little Trumpkin here.

Hey Trumpkin, since logic is hard for you guys let me help you out. 50% said the comments were "racist", another 17% said "Not racist, but still unacceptable". And only 16% (i.e. The mindless Trumpkins) thought the comments were "acceptable".

Btw, it's alway impressive to see a Trumpkin who doesn't type his entire post in ALL CAPS.

Posted by: Ronnie One at June 10, 2016 07:03 PM (+ONch)

134 A lot of people are really fed up with all this P.C.
bullshit.

Being told what is acceptable to say, and to a small degree, to think.

Trump is saying some of what they are thinking, while no one else will.

That is why Trump is where he is at.

Posted by: seamrog at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (l1C26)

135 >>>Attacking people who have misgivings about Trump as "pseudo-intellectuals", the "establishment", "cucks", or outright Hillary supporters is no way to grow an electoral minority into a majority... or even a plurality.
Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:50 PM (vBeA5)>>>

They cannot be won over. They hate conservatives so much that they couldn't even support Cruz to stop Trump. They were praying to their rainbows and unicorns that their fairy godmother would come and save them from their Hobson's choice.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (4ueYo)

136 Hat, I think (but cant prove) that the people you're seeing on twitter or disqus are really a very small minority of people. Like in the dozens.

And who knows if they're on somebodies payroll or not? And who cares, really?

I don't know -- I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm really not hearing these "dog whistles" and "racist language" everyone else is hearing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 06:55 PM (AkOaV)

The MSM will make people care.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (vBeA5)

137 35% thought it wasn't racist, definitively, and another 15% didn't give a shit enough to care! That's 50% who DoNotGiveAFuck.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (e+dTU)

And 50% do not know that Mexico is a country, not a race.
And surely 50% do not know that Hispanic/Latino is not a race.
...Unless they affiliate with La Raza groups.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (P/kVC)

138
Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (vBeA

You felt attacked by what I said?

Posted by: eman at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (fzeQY)

139 >>>
Yet, there are those who are so obsessed with grand plots and evil schemes of a handful of pundits that the vast majority of Americans don't give one s**t about, while concomitantly dismissing the "alt-right" as just a few "twitter trolls".

dude, I hear this a lot from people who spend too much time on twitter: Your imagination is captured, captivated by nasty people tweeting nasty things at you.

Twitter is not the real world.

Furthermore, I've been dealing with these people since before this election. Any time I said something disparaging about DOCTOR Ron Paul, I got an earful from various paleocons, "race realists," and outright Hitler Flag anti-semites.

If you think these people weren't in the GOP before, you're simply naive.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (dciA+)

140
Your 'logic' is, like you, dumb.

Do you math?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (e+dTU)

141 Hey guys guess what. If we go with Trump then the media is going to accuse Republicans of being racists and hating minorities!

Really? Oh, noes!! Whatever shall we do to appease the aggrieved???? /s

Oh, lol. Good one.

It's the continuing condition of Everything We Don't Like Is Racist: Just like every day since 0dipshit's First Campaign.

The word "racist" has meant nothing to me since 2008.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at June 10, 2016 07:05 PM (044Fx)

142 So! Hookers from Greenland - is this a thing?

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Do you keep them in the freezer like frozen pizza until you're ready for them?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 07:05 PM (Nwg0u)

143 >>>Prime examples of why I won't associate myself with Trump in any way, shape, or form.

Life isn't Twitter, son.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:05 PM (dciA+)

144 113 "cuck

Don't want to sound stupid but what is that?
Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (O2RFr)

Not a stupid question. Short for the old word cuckold. It's a term used by some Trump supporters on the internet. It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men. It's also deployed against white people who have adopted children of other races. They extend the use to anyone who doesn't support Trump.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (ozZau)

145 CNN is stroking themselves over something Romney said about Trump.

Its hilarious!

Romney

snicker

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (syGA0)

146 another 17% said "Not racist, but still unacceptable". And only 16% (i.e. The mindless Trumpkins) thought the comments were "acceptable

I think you need some reading comprehension.

By your own posting: 17% said "not racist", which was the claim from the poster you're going after.

Posted by: GMan at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (JFwxz)

147
If we lose this election and they open the flood gates, we will never have a conservative majority again.

Did someone ever close those flood gates?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (IqV8l)

148 Not a stupid question. Short for the old word cuckold. It's a term used by some Trump supporters on the internet. It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men. It's also deployed against white people who have adopted children of other races. They extend the use to anyone who doesn't support Trump.
Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (ozZau)

Thanks... That's disturbing...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (O2RFr)

149 The 'GoP' who allowed the nomination of a Federal Judge who was an active member of racist organization dedicated the violent overthrow of the United States, to reach the floor of the Senate -- have no voice in the matter.

Those who haven't introduced and scheduled impeachment proceedings need to shut the fu-k up.

They will never love us, make them fear us.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (Doh4+)

150 50% of people probably don't know the president appoints judges.

I think Trump recovered from this pretty well, precisely because if you think about it or are reminded by Ace, that we have white juries blamed for black defendants being held guilty, or Wise Latina stuff, that the system has these biases in it.

But, I'd rather we not have an identitarian society like this. Trump's argument, which is for his own personal lawsuit, doesn't help that goal exactly.

I do think Trump, even when "racist", breaks down PC. Its not that racist to do what Trump did.

Its like the most watered-down racism. Casual NYC racism. The kind of "racism" where you also assume all southern whites are into the KKK, which I think Trump also thinks because of the game he played with that.

He's also so inartful in phrasing that it eventually works for him.

"Look at my African-American."

wut?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (UBBWX)

151 Look Ace, even a moron knows that Democrats canNOT be racist, EVER, and that every Republican--especially an R in a truly competitive election is ALWAYS racist.

Simple shit like this EVERY body knows....especially our betters who live on our hard-earned money.

Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (3ZttN)

152 It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men

Well, the original version of "cuckold" is a man who's wife is having sex with other men.

Comes from the cuckoo bird, actually.

Posted by: GMan at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (JFwxz)

153 148 Not a stupid question. Short for the old word cuckold. It's a term used by some Trump supporters on the internet. It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men. It's also deployed against white people who have adopted children of other races. They extend the use to anyone who doesn't support Trump.
Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (ozZau)

Thanks... That's disturbing...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (O2RFr

Its also not very accurate.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (bMG0w)

154 Btw, it's alway impressive to see a Trumpkin who doesn't type his entire post in ALL CAPS.

Posted by: Ronnie One at June 10, 2016 07:03 PM (+ONch)

You know who are just as unpleasant as mindless Trump supporters?

Mindless Trump haters like you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Hai at June 10, 2016 07:08 PM (Zu3d9)

155 >>>It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men. It's also deployed against white people who have adopted children of other races. They extend the use to anyone who doesn't support Trump.
Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (ozZau)>>>

To some it means that. To others, it just means what the dictionary says it means.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (4ueYo)

156 i didn't call them either. but the people i'm talking about are in fact: the media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intellectual class (or what passes for one).

If you don't like accurate words which describe actual reality, what fake words shall I use in their stead?

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (dciA+)

Ace,

That wasn't directed at you, but at those who do use that term.

I know you've bashed the "alt-right" and those who non-fasetiously use it.

That being said, you seem a bit too focused on a handful of pundits almost no one cares about, as if their voice matters, if not to you, then for others.

They are irrelevant. If you want to unite people against Hillary, than please do so as you do it so well. There is no need to focus any energy on these imaginary threats from the "GOP establishment".

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (vBeA5)

157 50% of people probably don't know the president appoints judges.

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I thought we built them in Silicon Valley.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (Nwg0u)

158 To others, it just means what the dictionary says it means

Yes, that.

Posted by: GMan at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (JFwxz)

159
I am neither one of those squishes, nor a Trump supporter

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FWIW I see you, and most others here who are nevertrump, as ideological, for which you should read that to mean theoretical not practical. you're attached to your theories and can't imagine anything else.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (Cq0oW)

160 when I wrote one post criticizing DOCTOR Ron Paul's latest conspiracy theory, I got a long comment explaining how the John Birch Society had actually defended and upheld america, and that things had gone downhill since the evil neocons of the William F. Buckley faction ejected them, and that only the John Birch Society would save America.

This Vicious Synecdoche style of thinking -- "Let these convenient repulsive scapegoats form my opinion of a much larger group" -- is common to the left, and is a typical method used to disparage the right. They constantly find the few guys in a GOP rally with some untoward sign (Nazi flag, sign saying Obama should come to harm) and put those pictures up all over the wires, and conveniently don't include the pictures of the 5000 perfectly unobjectionable citizens at the rally.

I have long objected to that practice when done by liberals, and I'm no big fan of it now that so many conservatives embrace it.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (dciA+)

161 To some it means that. To others, it just means what the dictionary says it means.

Just looked it up Myself... Not nearly so bad...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:10 PM (O2RFr)

162
Donna, no, stace is misleading you just like Gabriel Malor did earlier.

Yes, a cuckold is a man who let's his wife get sexed by another man and watches or whatever.

There is an instance, perhaps more than one, of white supremacists using the term as stace describes.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:10 PM (e+dTU)

163 >>>And only 16% (i.e. The mindless Trumpkins) thought the comments were "acceptable

Not socially acceptable, but acceptable because they were strategically, politically provocative. Maybe a dumb move, but since when is being "mexican" and insult?

I don't know, the more we cower in political correctness, the more an asshole like Trump begins to seem "acceptable."

Posted by: Max Power at June 10, 2016 07:11 PM (q177U)

164 >>It's the continuing condition of Everything We Don't Like Is Racist: Just like every day since 0dipshit's First Campaign.

Long before that.
The narrative has been around for as long as I can remember: Republicans are greedy old white men who hate women, minorities, LGBTQ, the poor, animals, the environment, and on and on.

They just are. Period. End of discussion. Conventional wisdom. Duh.
It doesn't have to be proved, it has to be disproved.
LOL - just kidding, you can't deny it because that then *proves* that the Republican is Hitler.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 10, 2016 07:11 PM (NOIQH)

165 >>>That being said, you seem a bit too focused on a handful of pundits almost no one cares about, as if their voice matters, if not to you, then for others.

"handful of pundits"

Paul Ryan
Mark Kirk
Lindsey Graham
All of the conservative intelligentsia
Almost every official GOP operative

yes, just a handful of nobodies with no real sway.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:11 PM (dciA+)

166 I'm watching The Donald's speech at the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, and like clockwork some tiny, shrill succubi disrupted the event with their "stop hate!!!" chants.

Have conservatives/Repubs ever disrupted a Dem speaker?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 07:12 PM (jR7Wy)

167 meanwhile, while I'm focusing on nobodies who no one listens to -- Paul Ryan, George Will, almost all of NRO, various Senators -- The Political Hat is focusing on the people who DO matter, guys like CelticWarrior69 and ThorsAvengingRavens2014 on Twitter.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:12 PM (dciA+)

168
Paul Ryan
Mark Kirk
Lindsey Graham
All of the conservative intelligentsia
Almost every official GOP operative

Some of which have threatened to un-back Trump....

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:12 PM (O2RFr)

169 Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:07 PM (bMG0w)

The strict definition or how it's used now?

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:12 PM (R5HRU)

170 Dictionary.com on Cuckold:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cuckold?s=t

I had never actually seen it used in a racial context before this cycle. I had always seen it as the normal term to apply to a guy whose wife had run around on him, and the scorn that comes with that.

Some Trump fans are using it to describe the kind of men they think of who blindly follow the establishment. They are striking more at the passivity and lying down they see people doing on the right.

Never got the racial side of thing (which seems new to me), the term is insulting enough all on it's lonesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 07:13 PM (3ZoRf)

171
If you think these people weren't in the GOP before, you're simply naive.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (dciA+)

I was naive before, but I've learned a lot this year watching the alt-right Trump supporters. I don't think Trump is personally racist, but I do think Paul is anti-semitic, so I wonder why the creeps gravitate to both of them? Trump even has a Jewish daughter. Whatevs.

I wish I weren't going out of town next Friday because I'd like to go see what the Dump Trump people do when he visits here.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:13 PM (ozZau)

172 No, it simply means a man that has experienced the infidelity of his wife. That's the classical definition, anyway. "Cuckolds All in A Row" - a traditional song played by the British and Continental Armies pipes and drums during the Revolution.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 07:13 PM (/WPPJ)

173 113 "cuck

Don't want to sound stupid but what is that?

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (O2RFr)

Cuck is a pejorative term used to refer to Republicans that do the dirty work of the progressive left, in an attempt to curry favor with them, and show them how they are worthy to attend the cocktail parties they host. It doesn't mean simply a disagreement in ideology. One who disagrees with you in an honorable and intelligent manner is worthy of respect, even if they are wrong.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (di/ST)

174 >>>
Yes, a cuckold is a man who let's his wife get sexed by another man and watches or whatever.

There is an instance, perhaps more than one, of white supremacists using the term as stace describes.

"Perhaps more than one instance." Yes, perhaps, perhaps just a single more than one instance of the term being used in a racialist manner.

But just that one instance. Or maybe two.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (dciA+)

175 A note about the sidebar link of the journalist complaining about being served a cheap meal: the sushi served was toro according to the article, which is one of the most expensive (and delicious) types of sushi you can buy.

Apparently, a courteous reception AND expensive food stuffed in their mouths isn't enough to satisfy these cretins, they deserve nothing less than to be guests at Hearst Castle.

Posted by: Sjg at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (gDSJf)

176 "This Vicious Synecdoche style of thinking..."

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:09 PM (dciA+)

What an awesome word.

The point wasn't bad either, but it was overshadowed by the glory of synecdoche.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Hai at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (Zu3d9)

177 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Hai at June 10, 2016 07:08 PM (Zu3d9)

I always learned to spell that "Am Yisrael Chai!

Is the "C" silent?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:15 PM (WVsWD)

178 What the hell kind of dog was barking on and off during the podcast? It sounded like a Yorkie or a Bichon; some sort of little lord doggie.

There is a class divide on dogs. Owning a little white doggie who yaps is a mark of the GOPe. Paul Ryan has a scottie for chrissakes. God only knows what kind of dog wanders around chez McConnell!

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:15 PM (/m8T6)

179
I am sick of hearing from the nevertrumpers. Trump will be the nominee. If you dont want to vote for him in Nov, I dont care. dont want to hear the non stop bitching that you didnt get your way. All you are doing is making it easier for the devil incarnate, Hillary, to win. And for that - screw you.

Seriously, after the 1000th time you shared with us you hate trump, you morph into democrats.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (iQIUe)

180 dude, I hear this a lot from people who spend too much time on twitter: Your imagination is captured, captivated by nasty people tweeting nasty things at you.

Twitter is not the real world.

I'm seeing this in real life and with actual political players.

But then, I'm not seeing "GOP establishment" plots.

Different locals; different perspectives.

Maybe you don't see many Alt-right types aside from gadflys in your neck of the woods. I certainly don't see much of a threat from the so-called "GOP establishment" here.

Furthermore, I've been dealing with these people since before this election. Any time I said something disparaging about DOCTOR Ron Paul, I got an earful from various paleocons, "race realists," and outright Hitler Flag anti-semites.

If you think these people weren't in the GOP before, you're simply naive.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (dciA+)

I know they were here before. I've been opposing them on the ground in the flesh. I've also seen just how much they've come out of the woodwork.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (vBeA5)

181 177 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Hai at June 10, 2016 07:08 PM (Zu3d9)

I always learned to spell that "Am Yisrael Chai!

Is the "C" silent?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:15 PM (WVsWD)

Isn't it more of a phlegm?

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (bMG0w)

182 chez McConnell!

Toy poodle?

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (O2RFr)

183 This bing search should certainly disprove any suggestion that "cuckservative" has any kind of an anti-semitic and anti-black charge to it!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Cuckservative+Definition&FORM=IRTRRL

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (dciA+)

184 There is an instance, perhaps more than one, of white supremacists using the term as stace describes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:10 PM (e+dTU)

Only racists use the term "cuck" now. Cuckold is not neccssarily used that way. Cuck is. That's its use.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (ozZau)

185 166:Have conservatives/Repubs ever disrupted a Dem speaker?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage

Probably not. If they had, the MSM would be having week long orgasms over KKKONSERVATIVE/RETHUG H8!!!11!!!!.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (syGA0)

186 as Mister Magoo said,

one racialist used the word, or "perhaps more than one."

I think the smart money is laying on "perhaps more than one."

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (dciA+)

187 Poll of US registered voters:

Is it acceptable for a federal judge be a member of a La Raza group?

50% - No because they stand over you while you are trying to eat and don't stop playing until you tip them

Posted by: Are you going to finish that enchilada? - Frank Luntz at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (X4FeV)

188 I remember some conservatives who were upset at Romney and the talk about the makers vs. takers.

So, they stay home because Romney looks like a Boss.

Then you had some so-cons who didn't think he was "Christian" as he is Mormon.

So I reserve my right to not like Trump if these were good enough reasons for people to not like Romney.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:17 PM (UBBWX)

189 Mitch has a turtle named "Harry"

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2016 07:17 PM (KCxzN)

190 Kurt's right. Both big law firms I worked for had a set of binders in the library with the Daily Journal profiles of pretty much every state federal judge in California (except for those so newly appointed that DJ hadn't had a chance to profile yet).

Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2016 07:17 PM (7Yy8M)

191 Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:15 PM (WVsWD)

I guess it's personal preference? I don't know...

Let's try it the other way!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -- Am Yisrael Chai at June 10, 2016 07:18 PM (Zu3d9)

192 "what do you imagine the 34% thought? Obviously they don't particularly care."

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 06:53 PM (dciA+)

Huh? So you're adding the 19% who thought th comments were "Not racist, but still unacceptable" to the 15% with "No Opinion" and call that 34% who don't particularly care?

So if someone takes the position that a comment is "unacceptable" that means they don't particularly care?

Posted by: Ronnie One at June 10, 2016 07:18 PM (+ONch)

193 I'm just glad I don't feel obligated to defend the dipshit.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 07:18 PM (ktzHq)

194
I'm seeing this in real life and with actual political players.

But then, I'm not seeing "GOP establishment" plots.

Different locals; different perspectives.

You live in Nevada. A state that the local GOP was heavily taken over by Paultards.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:18 PM (bMG0w)

195 check out the second response on bing image search for "cuckservative."

Yeah. Just an ordinary word that good-meaning, non-racist, non-anti-semitic people use.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:18 PM (dciA+)

196 Hat, doesn't NV have a pretty weird GOP situation? Paul-ites took over a few years ago or something?

What I mean is, I can't believe you think that the invisible fringe that is "alt-right" is actually a national factor - for voters, or inside any party structure (well, you'd have to check with the FBI on fringe outfits in compounds in ID, but you know what I mean).

And my disdain for the "intellectuals" (most of them) in question long pre-dates Trump and has nothing to do with this campaign. They're just continuing to under-perform.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (QDnY+)

197 Why do so many people accept these "polls" as 100% accurate?

There is a diverse and geographically widespread audience here at AOSHQ.

How many of you are frequently involved in answering poll questions?

I usually hang up, or lie my ass off.

Do you think that the Democrat polling outfits count their answers similar to how they count election day votes?

Posted by: seamrog at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (l1C26)

198 >>>But just that one instance. Or maybe two.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (dciA+)>>>

Well, we shouldn't let dipshit lefties or racists hijack the English language.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (4ueYo)

199 Who is going to buy Gawker? Has it any worth? The name and brand is trash. The employees are aholes. So, what do they have to sell? Office space and some office equipment?

I have this vague recollection of Gawker trying to out another high profile gay figure but I cant remember who it was. I guess Denton justifies it in his creepy mind that gay people shd all be out. I think he is self serving and his sole goal in outing them is for $$$$$.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (iQIUe)

200 188 I remember some conservatives who were upset at Romney and the talk about the makers vs. takers.

So, they stay home because Romney looks like a Boss.

Then you had some so-cons who didn't think he was "Christian" as he is Mormon.

So I reserve my right to not like Trump if these were good enough reasons for people to not like Romney.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:17 PM (UBBWX)

Are you trying to say that Trump is the choice of True conservatism or True Christians?

Your arguments seem to change based on what you think will piss people off the most.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (3ZoRf)

201 172 No, it simply means a man that has experienced the infidelity of his wife. That's the classical definition, anyway. "Cuckolds All in A Row" - a traditional song played by the British and Continental Armies pipes and drums during the Revolution.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 07:13 PM (/WPPJ)

I'm not talking about the classic, Merriam webster cuckold definition. I'm talking about the term cuck as used on the internet. It's almost always used by racists.

it's handy to know, so don't reject the knowledge. If someone uses that term, you know what you're dealing with.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (ozZau)

202 Oh, for flaming Christ's sake, there are contexts in which "Spades" is a significantly racist term. Words have the power you give them. Cue the PBS theme music...

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (2cS/G)

203
Ace, then why did it come as a shock to so many when they were told by you and others that it was a racist term?

Could it be possible that hardly anybody ever used that way?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (e+dTU)

204 If you join the One Dollar Muldoon Shave Club™ we will send you a new La Raza every month.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (NeFrd)

205
If you think these people weren't in the GOP before, you're simply naive.

====

it's always been there, mostly out of a style of thinking the right has. like when Obama does X and then there's worries about retribution by knuckleheads, which then goes to race war predictions, and everyone sounds like an asshole

its happened here before, this is yet another iteration.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (Cq0oW)

206 Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (4ueYo)

Gotta live in reality whether we like it or not that word HAS been hijacked.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (R5HRU)

207
I'm not talking about the classic, Merriam webster cuckold definition. I'm talking about the term cuck as used on the internet. It's almost always used by racists.

it's handy to know, so don't reject the knowledge. If someone uses that term, you know what you're dealing with.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (ozZau)

The people I most often see using it are people like you and Politcal Hat.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:20 PM (bMG0w)

208 I'm still trying to get over the appropriation of the word "gay".

Posted by: freaked at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (BO/km)

209 What exactly is the "alt-right", anyway? I keep seeing the term tossed around, but I've never seen a definition besides "racist". How is it different from your garden variety Neo-Nazi or Klan methheads?

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

210 I put some of the top hits for a bing search for "Cuckservative" in the sidebar on the main page.

It's "misleading" to claim the term is favored by racists and anti-semites. In fact, only cucks would tell you such a Jew Lie.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (dciA+)

211 >> I know they were here before. I've been opposing them on
>> the ground in the flesh. I've also seen just how much
>> they've come out of the woodwork.

The reality is that you have those in the GOP, and then you have the antisemites, Leninists, crypto-fascists, and all the rest over in the left end of the Democrats (if you want to see what Feeling The Bern leads to, look at UK Labour these days). The extremes almost wrap around.

They're citizens (well, many) and they vote (well, some of them) and so their opinions and positions can't be completely ignored but...

Posted by: JEM at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (o+SC1)

212 Correct me if I am wrong:

1. This lawsuit was brought by FIVE former students, FIVE.
2. The lawyer hawking it has been JAILED for improper class action lawsuit'ing
3. The judge is a current member of La Raza
4. La Raza, the Race, advocates for an ethnic group.
5. La Raza advocates for the breakup of the United States.
6. When was the last time a Federal judge was nominated who was a member of an organization calling for the secession of the white, slave owning South, or an Aryan redoubt in Idaho? 1860s
7. The same news organizations running this have not run a single story on Laurlette U and the Clintons.
8. The same 'Republicans' whining about Trump have not called for an investigation in the public corruption at the heart of Laurlette U that cost the taxpayers $55M.
9. The same Republicans whining about Trump have not begun impeachment proceedings on the Judge; and some of them may have even voted for his confirmation.

Anything I miss?

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (Doh4+)

213 Allahpundit isn't a big Trump backer is He?

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (O2RFr)

214 Owning a little white doggie who yaps is a mark of the GOPe.

===

i got a jack russell

that just hurts man

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (Cq0oW)

215
If one does not know cuckold was applied in a manner to make it a racist slur, and then one uses the word in a completely non-racial context, is it still racist?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (e+dTU)

216 199 Who is going to buy Gawker? Has it any worth? The name and brand is trash. The employees are aholes. So, what do they have to sell? Office space and some office equipment?

I have this vague recollection of Gawker trying to out another high profile gay figure but I cant remember who it was. I guess Denton justifies it in his creepy mind that gay people shd all be out. I think he is self serving and his sole goal in outing them is for $$$$$.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (iQIUe)

Don't they own Gizmodo and some other sites that could actually be worth something to someone.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (bMG0w)

217 >>>Only racists use the term "cuck" now. Cuckold is not neccssarily used that way. Cuck is. That's its use.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:16 PM (ozZau)>>>

Yes, because anyone else who used it has been brow beat for using a non-racist term as being racist. It's the same problem as discussed above, except worse because the term has absolutely nothing to do with race.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (4ueYo)

218 The spread of cuck as an internet insult comes from 4Channers, who adopted it "ironically" from white supremacist message boards.

Trump supporters will defend it until the day they die, because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan.

Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (CZaQB)

219 Or it could be

3) It's all bullshit and next week our betters will be on to something else to shout about.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (N9Pud)

220 Stace, you may well be right. I have never been accused of living the in the 21st Century. I remain blissfully unaware of many things, by choice.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (/WPPJ)

221 see the sidebar for all the many innocent, perfectly respectable uses of the word "cuck"

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (dciA+)

222 "Are you trying to say that Trump is the choice of True conservatism or True Christians?

Your arguments seem to change based on what you think will piss people off the most. "

No! I'm just saying every candidate will rub some people the wrong way for some reason.

I didn't find either of those arguments compelling. I guess they are for some people.

I'm not a christian or a so-con, though.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (UBBWX)

223 'Cuck' (as in cuckold) is used to imply that the person is meek and submissive, possibly to minorities, or others who are taking what is theirs.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 07:23 PM (Mt8T4)

224 The MSM will make people care.
Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:04 PM (vBeA5)

But, hat, have we not learned that it is always something with them?

it's not like they will treat anyone who is not a progressive democrat well. They will attack, attack, attack.

Keep this in mind: Bush was called Hitler, a nazi, a fascist, etc.

Romney was also compared to Hitler and Fascists (the real definition, because he's a 1%er!!!).

so was McCain, and really every R ever.

So we can't play that game. I can't care what the media says. Clearly most people ignore them or we'd never have had a single R elected in the last 50 years.

So I'm not going to make the "well the media is attacking him as x, so I should back away" move. It's just... i don't know. Not how I roll anymore.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 07:23 PM (AkOaV)

225 A cuckservative is a person on the right who accepts the premises of the left. For example, if you believe a strong border or halting Muslim immigration is racist, then you are a cuckservative.

Posted by: Ryan at June 10, 2016 07:23 PM (T0Ext)

226 >>>215
If one does not know cuckold was applied in a manner to make it a racist slur, and then one uses the word in a completely non-racial context, is it still racist?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (e+dTU)>>>

Yes. Because our self-appoint "elite" overlords have deemed it so.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:23 PM (4ueYo)

227 Not socially acceptable, but acceptable because they
were strategically, politically provocative. Maybe a dumb move, but
since when is being "mexican" and insult?

I don't know, the more we cower in political correctness, the more an asshole like Trump begins to seem "acceptable."

Posted by: Max Power at June 10, 2016 07:11 PM (q177U)

Knew a guy in the army who used the phrase "I'm a Mexican, not a mexican't".
He needs to be edumacated that since he was born in the US he is not a Mexican, and that he is a racist for using that word.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 07:24 PM (P/kVC)

228 221 see the sidebar for all the many innocent, perfectly respectable uses of the word "cuck"

Yikes Jew Whore...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:24 PM (O2RFr)

229 199 Who is going to buy Gawker? Has it any worth? The name and brand is trash. The employees are aholes. So, what do they have to sell? Office space and some office equipment?

{looks in wallet}

I got $5.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 07:24 PM (syGA0)

230
I just looked at the Bing search results and all I see are bloggers talking about how awful it is.

And of course Wikipedia now has an entry about "cuckservtive" is a racial term. I guess that makes it official now.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:24 PM (e+dTU)

231 Words possess whatever meaning the most sarcastic among us deems them to have because you don't what to be the rube left holding the bag--right?

Posted by: derit at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (OC+TJ)

232 >> La Raza, the Race, advocates for an ethnic group.

There's about eleven million organizations that go under the La Raza moniker. They're not necessarily related except insofar as they target a Hispanic audience.

Which specific one are you referring to and can you provide some links or evidence as to their public positions?

Posted by: JEM at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (o+SC1)

233
But just that one instance. Or maybe two.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:14 PM (dciA+)

The word is often used in that contest more for an insulting humorous jab. That is generally not the way the word is used, but the alt-right isn't above using it in a double entente to attack the soft underbelly of the male id, and cast their enemies as weak and ineffective sexually.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (di/ST)

234 cuckservative was a great idea for an insult to say, Bitch McConnell or Boehner.

But it was co-opted immediately by the Alt-Right racist crowd.

These things happen.

The one guy I know who loves to use it on facebook is a white supremacist who votes Democrat, except he loves Trump. He also takes quizs like "how fascist are you?"

He was 49% fascist.

I am 17% fascist.

Because I like torch-lit marches.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (UBBWX)

235 Getting here quite late (supper, a few games of chess, cats to feed) but the whole point of the "Wise Latina " wasn't a racial play card?

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (d9qXV)

236 I've added more lovely, lovely #Cuck memes to the sidebar, so everyone can determine with their own eyes and midns -- not relying on the say-so of #cucks and #Jews -- how innocent and completely non-racist this term is.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (dciA+)

237 >>>Trump supporters will defend it until the day they die, because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan.
Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (CZaQB)>>>

Well, I've never used the term and don't really support Trump (yet?), but I'll defend the use of non-racist words from stupid allegations of racism all day long.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (4ueYo)

238 "Trump supporters will defend it until the day they die, because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan. "

I must of missed those signs at the last rally. Cameras were everywhere. Gotta be some pics somewhere saying "Death to the Cuck-servatives"

Ya think?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (WVsWD)

239 Magoo, do an image search.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (UBBWX)

240 >> Don't they own Gizmodo and some other sites that could
>> actually be worth something to someone.

Yeah, Gizmodo and Jalopnik are probably the crown jewels in that crown right now.

Posted by: JEM at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (o+SC1)

241 Cwuck this it's wabbit season!

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (BO/km)

242 If people think it wasn't racist but unacceptable then what would be unacceptable about it?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (MNgU2)

243 213 Allahpundit isn't a big Trump backer is He?
Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:21 PM (O2RFr)

=========
AP looks down on everybody and especially his readers. He is always bashing and ridiculing everyone on twitter. He got a big push back when twitter first started and readers saw what he was saying about them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (iQIUe)

244 Trump supporters will defend it until the day they die, because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan.
Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (CZaQB)

Whatever the word means now, it is absolutely a portmanteau of "cuckold" and "conservative".

White supremacists do not describe themselves as conservative, I do not think they would have come up with this term.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (AkOaV)

245 >>>the alt-right isn't above using it in a double entente to attack the soft underbelly of the male id, and cast their enemies as weak and ineffective sexually.

right, as in "ineffective sexually" because their wives are getting plowed by n*ggers.

But other than that -- it's like Power Word for Patriots. Just totally innocent and pure and America.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (dciA+)

246 "So what can we determine based on this?"

Media is full of shit?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (9ym/8)

247 "handful of pundits"

Paul Ryan
Mark Kirk
Lindsey Graham
All of the conservative intelligentsia
Almost every official GOP operative

yes, just a handful of nobodies with no real sway.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:11 PM (dciA+)

Yes. A handful of pundits and also-rans.

The vast majority of the GOP establishment and apparatus ain't going to threaten Trump, especially those insiders who are using Trump supporters to crush opposition to their own hold on power. Operatives will suck the teat of whoever has sway. Plenty of the so-called "intelligentsia" have gone full Trump Train, or at least is will go "Never Hillary".

Those few who still disagree with Trump are not part of some insidious cabal, but maybe, juuust maybe, may have actual problems with Trump from a non-squishy point of view.

Bill Kristol isn't a threat to anyone. Most people don't know who he is or cares. Refusing to go whole hog for Trump is hardly the sign of insidious plots.

I've fought for decades against the squishes and sell-outs. I just don't see the conspiracy.

The "GOP establishment" is just a phantom menace.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (vBeA5)

248 Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:23 PM (4ueYo)

Welp, in the age we are in using the term cuckservative is generally used by some racist asshole. If you use the term, fine, but words have consequences.

Guilt by association.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (R5HRU)

249 Imaginary definitions of an imaginary word.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (Nwg0u)

250
Anything I miss?

The law firm handling the case has paid the Clinton's 675,000 for speaking engagements

Posted by: flawless Male Logic at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (lKyWE)

251 >> La Raza, the Race, advocates for an ethnic group.

There's about eleven million organizations that go under the La Raza
moniker. They're not necessarily related except insofar as they
target a Hispanic audience.

Which specific one are you referring to and can you provide some links or evidence as to their public positions?

Posted by: JEM at June 10, 2016 07:25 PM (o+SC1)

This is the crap that gets you called a cuck. You would never offer such a nuanced explanation for storm front, or the aryan brotherhood would you, but you go out of your way to do the work of the left, and defend La Raza by offering bullshit explanations.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (di/ST)

252 Heh. Got an episode of Laramie running in the background and Frank de Kova comes on as an indian, just like he played Wild Eagle on F-Troop.

It's hard to take the comedy actor doing virtually the same role dramatically.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (Mt8T4)

253 Gosh, I can only wonder, Which half?

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (laMCB)

254 ace I think you're right about that word but it's just a tangent in response to one incorrect comment and a bunch of comments making dictionary arguments that are right, but now wrong, socially speaking.

You really covered the "so what" of this when you wrote "the internet isn't the real world".

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (QDnY+)

255 >>>Trump supporters will defend it until the day they die, because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan.
Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (CZaQB)>>>

===========
I am a Trump supporter and have never used that word and told others who do use it to fuck off which I will also say to you: fuck off, Hillary bot!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (iQIUe)

256 Mexican ain't a race. How stupid is this?

Posted by: Zimmerman at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (Lmaa1)

257 You really covered the "so what" of this when you wrote "the internet isn't the real world"

But everything's true on the internet!

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (O2RFr)

258 >>>Yes. Because our self-appoint "elite" overlords have deemed it so.

sure, that, and racists began shooting pictures of white parents with black children (the cucklings!) at people with mixed race children like Nick Searcy and David French.

But don't let that bring you down -- you keep using the racist term all you like, and then insisting that only "elites" have given this term any racist edge.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (dciA+)

259 I just don't care anymore.

I don't care if anybody thinks his comments are racist. Liberal scum get away with being racists every day.

I wouldn't even care now if Trump IS a racist, which he isn't. Hillary must be stopped, and he's the only one with a chance.

Trump isn't my choice because I'm a Christian. Trump is my choice because there's no other option for stopping the Beast.

Nevertrumpers are going to get their asses handed to them just as much as the rest of us if that evil cunt wins.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (pZe82)

260 I think any guy who is familiar with what the porn industry turns out would know how cuckholding became a term used by racists.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (MNgU2)

261 Words just words.

Posted by: Barky O'Cluckstick at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (BO/km)

262 "Getting here quite late (supper, a few games of chess, cats to feed) but the whole point of the "Wise Latina " wasn't a racial play card?"

Yes, but....

See, mostly we want a color-blind society, but we also want Irish-American Lawyers Associations, and we like to praise ethnic groups. "kiss me I'm Irish!"

its when it become negative that its a turn off:

Except for white people. You can be negative about them. Thus, we are now where we are at.

I blame the Left.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (UBBWX)

263 I know Denton is trying to unload his Soho apt for about 15 mil, I think.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (iQIUe)

264 Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (dciA+)

LMFAO

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (R5HRU)

265 Instapundit quotes Mollie Hemingway trying to explain the obvious to the idiot Republican leadership: "Why Trump?"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/235914/

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (/m8T6)

266 "because they'll never be able to admit they got tricked by a bunch of bored teenagers into adopting a white supremacist insult as a slogan. "

WTF are you even talking about?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (9ym/8)

267 Who got tricked? We decided that the shit-for-brains-loudmouth Leftwinger is the best option. Informed choice. Not being Hillary Clinton is his only strength.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (2cS/G)

268 220 Stace, you may well be right. I have never been accused of living the in the 21st Century. I remain blissfully unaware of many things, by choice.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (/WPPJ)

heh, I spend too much time on twitter. I should cut back. It's full of nasty shit.

I did just use it to tweet the police about what the local Dump Trump protesters are up to though. I could pick up a phone and call the old fashioned way, and maybe I'll do that, but this way I don't have to go through a menu.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:30 PM (ozZau)

269
Heh. Got an episode of Laramie running in the background and Frank de Kova comes on as an indian, just like he played Wild Eagle on F-Troop.

It's hard to take the comedy actor doing virtually the same role dramatically.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

He played the serious Indian a lot more than the comic one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:31 PM (IqV8l)

270 how innocent and completely non-racist this term is.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:26 PM (dciA+)

It isn't in any way innocent, but it's not racist. It's generally directed at whites by other whites.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:31 PM (di/ST)

271 Nope, i was wrong. He wants to rent it for 15k a month:

http://goo.gl/eV7Y9e

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:32 PM (iQIUe)

272 He played the serious Indian a lot more than the comic one.

Here's something that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic... The translation of Tonto in Spanish is dumb, stupid...

Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 07:32 PM (O2RFr)

273 I'm curious how many of these racism-truffle sniffing pigs managed to sleuth out that the OJ jury was hopelessly racist?

Nah, never mind. I'm not curious. I already know.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (LAe3v)

274 >>>Welp, in the age we are in using the term cuckservative is generally used by some racist asshole. If you use the term, fine, but words have consequences.

Guilt by association.
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (R5HRU)>>>

The left is constantly warping the meaning of words to fool people. I'm sick of the stupid hijacking of the English language. But, I don't use the term because (1) I generally try to avoid unreasoned insults; and (2) I've been successfully cowed from using non-racial words by the fascist word police.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (4ueYo)

275 Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:31 PM (di/ST)

Well, yeah it has to be.

It's basically calling you some subservient race traitor. Or some scared pussy of the scary black man.

Again, I understand some of you go by the direct definition of the word but I really don't think it's understood by that meaning anymore.

Go look at cuckold porn. Self explanatory.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (R5HRU)

276 There are four groups of people that regularly use cuck on the internet:

1. 4Channers
2. White Supremacists
3. Pornographers

And...

4. Trump Supporters

You are of course free to associate yourselves with whoever you like, but I'd suggest that those probably aren't people you'd like to be mistaken for.

Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (CZaQB)

277 Many a radio host has said if Trump would have brought up the La Raza subject this would have gone much different, but there are no filters in Trump's head.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (d9qXV)

278 meanwhile, while I'm focusing on nobodies who no one listens to -- Paul Ryan, George Will, almost all of NRO, various Senators -- The Political Hat is focusing on the people who DO matter, guys like CelticWarrior69 and ThorsAvengingRavens2014 on Twitter.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:12 PM (dciA+)

The questions is, who will the MSM and Hillary's campaign focus on? Who will the LIVs hear as the voice of the GOP and "conservatism"?

I doubt that there are more "establishment" types that White people who are at least ammeniable to White identity politics.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (vBeA5)

279 Which word(s) will be banned next week?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (IqV8l)

280 What exactly is the "alt-right", anyway? I keep seeing the term tossed around, but I've never seen a definition besides "racist". How is it different from your garden variety Neo-Nazi or Klan methheads?

===

its bigger than that, or more nuanced maybe.

at base, the alt righters refuse to censor, so a lot of racism does get through expressed whatever.

at its core its more about rejecting democracy i think. there's a stream of thinking where they say fascism communism and democracy are parts of the same family tree and thus all are defective in some way

they share a lot of views with the moronosphere, like how the left is a continuation of puritanical religious impulses but diverge on others.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (Cq0oW)

281 I need a Venn diagram of people who think cuckservative has no racist connotations and people who think Trump calling a judge a Mexican is racist, stat!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (ktzHq)

282 It isn't in any way innocent, but it's not racist. It's generally directed at whites by other whites.

So...

Racism can only be expressed in statements made by whites to blacks?

*facepalm*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (8ZskC)

283 Jeebus. 63 y.o. woman shot at Savannah Mall at 10:00 this morning.

Two thugs attempted to rob her and she fought back, so they beat and shot her. She's in serious condition at a local hospital.

Suspects fled in a black SUV.

Gee, I wonder if we'll get a description of the thugs from the local media?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (1ZOkK)

284 Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (4ueYo)

Well you're a decent person. As far as word police goes again I say, use the word just don't be surprised if people jump on you for it.

Guilt by association. Good luck twisting yourself outta that pretzel.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (R5HRU)

285 It's not that so-called conservative intellectual pundits are "cuckservative"-type conservatives. It's that they're not a type of conservative at all. Like Karl Marx who never stepped on a factory floor but spent years at a table in the British Library reading books to formulate his theories of human nature and economics, they have bookish theories of a globalist, open-borders economic utopia and have somehow gotten people to accept their application of the label "conservative" to it.

Posted by: Rectifying Names at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (X4FeV)

286 There's about eleven million organizations that go
under the La Raza moniker. They're not necessarily related except
insofar as they target a Hispanic audience.

Which specific one are you referring to and can you provide some links or evidence as to their public positions?

Posted by: JEM

You show me one 'La Raza' organization that isn't based on an ethnic identity. The minute this case took on these ethnic overtones, this Judge should have recused himself immediately. He chose to associate himself with the identity politics long before Trump wandered into his life. I would bet that his commitment to identity politics are the reason he was able to work the political system to gain his lifetime appointment.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (Doh4+)

287 right, as in "ineffective sexually" because their wives are getting plowed by n*ggers.

But other than that -- it's like Power Word for Patriots. Just totally innocent and pure and America.
Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (dciA+)

I do not think that anyone is arguing that it is a great, wholesome word Ace- just that it can be an insult that does not have a racial component.

You are arguing that because of the way it is being used, it does have a racial component. Context based definition.

A lot of people, myself included, are sick and tired of ceding language to the fucking dems. If you say someone is honorable, and everyone on the right says is honorable, then the next day I am sure we will hear that the word HONOR has a racial component and therefore is only uttered by racists.

People see that all of a sudden, Honor is thought of to only be used by racists, so therefore people stop using the term. And then it moves on to the next term.

Now, cuckold is not a word from the language I particularly cherish. I think the original use is pretty damn insulting as it is (fighting words and grounds for duels in days gone by.) However, I do have sympathy for the way we are constantly ceding the point, without fighting the battle.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (3ZoRf)

288
He played the serious Indian a lot more than the comic one.

I know, but the funny one is the most famous, and the one in all the reruns.

Did a really good job in the Laramie episode, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (Mt8T4)

289
To me it's like how racists co-opted "Oreo" to insult Black people who they believe act White.

But an Oreo is still a damn cookie to me.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (e+dTU)

290 Hell On Wheels is coming back tomorrow.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (iQIUe)

291 Mexican ain't a race. How stupid is this?
Posted by: Zimmerman at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (Lmaa1)

Hahaha! You are correct Sir! "Mexican" is the same race as "Red Herring".....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (ej1L0)

292 >>>But don't let that bring you down -- you keep using the racist term all you like, and then insisting that only "elites" have given this term any racist edge.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (dciA+)>>>

Except I already said I've never used the term. But, whatever, call me a racist for saying something that I never said. Although I'm left to wonder how you differ from the people you're castigating the in post above.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (4ueYo)

293 Heh. Got an episode of Laramie running in the background and Frank de Kova comes on as an indian, just like he played Wild Eagle on F-Troop.

What, a REAL Indian like Iron Eyes Cody wasn't available?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (8ZskC)

294 Yet more evidence that we are a divided people who live in two different worlds, believe in two incompatible political ideologies, opposite points of view on religion. Hell, we even speak two different languages. (Not talking about English v Spanish. I'm talking about two different English languages where the same word means two different things depending on your point of view.)We have nothing in common, no common ground to share.

The most important point is this - one side wants to just ignore the other, while the other side wants to destroy the non beliver. (Not talking about Islam here. Talking political ideology.)

Conservatives just want to be left alone, while the liberals are driven to destroy anyone who does not live in their delusion.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (/H27A)

295 Test

Posted by: Harry Toze at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (QFhci)

296 Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (e+dTU)
There's also the always lovely coconut. Brown on the outside white on the inside

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 10, 2016 07:37 PM (egOGm)

297 "Jeebus. 63 y.o. woman shot at Savannah Mall at 10:00 this morning."

It's a shame, but, pack heat. Shoot back.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:37 PM (9ym/8)

298 Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:22 PM (Cq0oW)
---------------------------------------------

Dogs who can kill rats are excepted.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:37 PM (/m8T6)

299 Test
Posted by: Harry Toze at June 10, 2016 07:36 PM (QFhci)

Nope, nothing. Try again.

Maybe Ping would work better.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 07:38 PM (8ZskC)

300
Yeah, 'coconut' is another one.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:38 PM (e+dTU)

301
I love coconuts!
I love oreos!
I love bananas!
I love watermelon!
I love fried chicken!

Mmmmmmm!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:38 PM (iQIUe)

302 I'm anything but a trump supporter but what Trump basically did was call the judge racist . Amazing that it gets turned around and he is the one who gets accused of being a racist. Idiot yes, racist no.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (MNgU2)

303 But an Oreo is still a damn cookie to me.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:35 PM (e+dTU)

Yeah, and how the hell do they get in my computer?

Posted by: Hillary supporter at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (jJRIy)

304 I started with Hell on Wheels but lost interest.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (d9qXV)

305 Again, I understand some of you go by the direct
definition of the word but I really don't think it's understood by that
meaning anymore.

Go look at cuckold porn. Self explanatory.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (R5HRU)

It was certainly used in that context against David French, but that was just more happy coincidence that he fit the meme. How many people could it be applied to in such a context. I do however like the leftist games we're playing here. It's the single example rule. If you can find a single example that makes it true, when you want it to be, but for something to be proved against you then that single example is just an outlier, and a preponderance of examples must be supplied.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (di/ST)

306 Was watching the show "Elementary" a while back. The Sherlock character used the term "cuckold" in one of the episodes. Presumably it was a nod to the white nationalist racists watching the show. Although, that's a little confusing because the show is generally operating from a distinctly leftwing assumption set.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (4ueYo)

307 Have we fully discussed Hillary's hairy ankles, as reported by Bill's co-dependent sex addicted 32 year girlfriend today on Drudge?

Hairy. Ankles. WTF?

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (/m8T6)

308 This is the crap that gets you called a cuck. You would never offer such a nuanced explanation for storm front, or the aryan brotherhood would you, but you go out of your way to do the work of the left, and defend La Raza by offering bullshit explanations.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:28 PM (di/ST)

MEChA and La Raza are indeed racist and racial supremacist.

I've been pointing that out for years.

But I make sure to go after the ideology and those who hold it, rather than the racial group unfairly associated with the racialist ideology.

The Left have been successful in associating these racialist ideologies with the entire race or ethnic group. It is for this reason one has to be explicit about who they are standing against, because any ambiguity will be used successfully against the targer.

It's not fair. It's not treating people equally. But it must be done because America has for the most part been successfully propagandized in Leftist terms and frameworks of thought.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:40 PM (vBeA5)

309 260 I think any guy who is familiar with what the porn industry turns out would know how cuckholding became a term used by racists.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:29 PM (MNgU2)

I've read about the origin of the current meaning of the term, but how many men actually watch that type of porn? I would think it is a very tiny niche. At least I would hope so.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

310 Hairy. Ankles. WTF?

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (/m8T6)

Toes, I think he meant toes. I'll ask Dick Morris

Posted by: Hillary supporter at June 10, 2016 07:40 PM (jJRIy)

311 279 Which word(s) will be banned next week?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (IqV8l)

This isn't about banning words. it's about imparting knowledge to you that you can use however you want. The fact is that the term is usually used by white supremacists, some of whom are quite vicious, and perhaps you may find that fact useful.

Cuck wasn't even a word before recently anyway, so it's not as if anyone should miss using it.

Cuckold still has its old meaning, and it's usually not used in a racist way.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (ozZau)

312 This just in: Hillary has picked the color scheme for her fall campaign.

http://tinyurl.com/hh44obm

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (LAe3v)

313
It's a shame, but, pack heat. Shoot back.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

NO!

Posted by: Ninth Circuit at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (IqV8l)

314 Conservatives just want to be left alone, while the liberals are driven to destroy anyone who does not live in their delusion.

====

oddly they say much the same thing about us.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (Cq0oW)

315 Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (di/ST)

But there isn't just one instance, ace posted in the side bar.

I've read it on the interwebz. All I'm saying is, the word doesn't mean what it means in Merriam Websters anymore.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (R5HRU)

316 I'm listening to the end of the podcast while I'm reading this thread, and at one point the guys raise the Fed. Whatever happened to the Fed as an issue? Has a candidate ever completely disappeared faster than Rand Paul? Ever? He just left the campaign and went on permanent vacation.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (/m8T6)

317 How about a compromise on "cluckservative" for GOP who are chicken?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (PLnZs)

318 I've read about the origin of the current meaning of the term, but how many men actually watch that type of porn? I would think it is a very tiny niche. At least I would hope so.
Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

The thing about the internet is that you can find around 100,00 people who share your particular kink. Like watching videos of naked women bursting balloons- there is a website for that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (3ZoRf)

319 I'm just glad we live in a time when political differences are settled by who can deliver the sickest burn on social media.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (ktzHq)

320 I never heard the term "cuck" before I heard it used here. I heard the term "cuckold" but never thought of it having a racist meaning, just the "traditional" one.

I have never used it myself.

I think everybody needs to go out and have a drink.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (rmw+9)

321 I can't believe you teabaggers are arguing whether cuckservative has a different meaning. /s

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (MNgU2)

322 306 Was watching the show "Elementary" a while back. The Sherlock character used the term "cuckold" in one of the episodes. Presumably it was a nod to the white nationalist racists watching the show. Although, that's a little confusing because the show is generally operating from a distinctly leftwing assumption set.
Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (4ueYo)

Cuckold =/= cuck. Clear?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (ozZau)

323 It isn't in any way innocent, but it's not racist. It's generally directed at whites by other whites.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:31 PM (di/ST)

Since "cuck" means "traitor to the White Race", it would be odd for it to be said by a non-White person, or directed to a non-White person.

Posted by: (((Hat))) at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (vBeA5)

324 @312

That's the color of her shit. Huma told me.

Posted by: Hillary supporter at June 10, 2016 07:43 PM (jJRIy)

325 >>>This isn't about banning words. it's about imparting knowledge to you that you can use however you want. The fact is that the term is usually used by white supremacists, some of whom are quite vicious, and perhaps you may find that fact useful.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (ozZau)>>>

It is generally used that way now because any time someone used it in a non-racial way (i.e, as the English language intended), SJWs like Gabe screeched about racists everywhere. So now, everyone has been successfully cowed from using a perfectly racially-innocuous word.

Now I get it. Gabe spends his life on Twitter so his view of the real world is warped.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:43 PM (4ueYo)

326 ha

i found another one today: beefsteak.

brown/fascist on the outside, red on the inside.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:43 PM (Cq0oW)

327 306 Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:39 PM (4ueYo)
----------------------------------------------

"Cuckold" and "cuck" are completely different slang terms, with entirely different meanings. No relationship, as far apart as Trump and a Mexican judge.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:43 PM (/m8T6)

328

1. Thank you for your comments on cuckservative in the sidebar. It's a loathsome word.

2. I have been called for jury duty 4 times. Everytime the defense attorney laughs when he or she hears my history during vior dire and kicks me off with a preemptive strike post haste. They kick me off because 11 years in the military as a prosecutor. They want nothing to do with me. They are not the least bit interested in discussing the case with me to determine if I have bias. They assume I do and get rid of me first. Always.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (zOTsN)

329
Racism can only be expressed in statements made by whites to blacks?

*facepalm*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 07:34 PM (8ZskC)

It's not a statement made to. It's a statement made about. It's easy to make racist statements to other white people about black people. It's harder to make racist statements about a white person from another white person. Hell, Dave Chapelle had a skit about the blind black man who was a member of the KKK. It's that fucking silly.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (di/ST)

330 Only 13 days till Brexit. I know the Brexit people have been knocking on doors while the Remain people have been spreading wild scare stories.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (iQIUe)

331 Sort of fitting that porn would play a major role in a food fight at the HQ, no?

That c-word that I've never used and will never use (the original one or the political variation) is not much of a loss to me. But the loss of "racist" - once, as a British writer observed, a word that was more important and serious in America than anywhere else on earth - that's a loss.

And it's lost. As I've said before, 98% of the time racist is used, in reality it describes the thinking or tactics of those using it, not some social reality.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (QDnY+)

332 >>>Cuckold =/= cuck. Clear?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (ozZau)>>>

No.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (4ueYo)

333 I'm not one of "Those" people or whatever one of "Those" people is. All I know is that for many, many months prior to the primaries a group of "Those" people beat unceasingly on the drum that "Jeb is the only one who can beat Hillary". Non-stop all I remember hearing is "It's going to be Jeb or Hillary".

"Those" people went all in on Jeb. Why? Jeb certainly isn't a conservative and on some issues, he isn't a moderate... unless you consider him a moderate democrat. This election was going to be about a blue dog democrat vs a progressive democrat.

The election, if it goes forward with the nominees we have now, is still whatever kind of democrat Trump is and a progressive democrat. For all of the virtue signalling by "Those" people, when all of this is said and done, both Donald and Hills will be attending the same parties, weddings and fund raisers as they always have.

Someone earlier today said it well, an oligarchy with democratic rituals. We were never going to be given the ability to vote our way out of this.

Posted by: Usedtocould at June 10, 2016 07:45 PM (VCqKl)

334 They kick me off because 11 years in the military as a prosecutor. They
want nothing to do with me. They are not the least bit interested in
discussing the case with me to determine if I have bias. They assume I
do and get rid of me first. Always.

Well, that and the Klan hood, but mostly the prosecutor thing.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 07:45 PM (LAe3v)

335 'How about a compromise on "cluckservative" for GOP who are chicken?'

Sure, everybody dump on the chicken.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 10, 2016 07:45 PM (BO/km)

336 Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (4ueYo)

Ok clarity over agreement. Got it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:45 PM (R5HRU)

337 At this point, I don't think most people who cry racist really believe that.

They are just trying to manipulate people into not voting for Trump, saying whatever they think might work.

They should just be ignored: engaging them is as useless as trying to converse with a barking dog.

Posted by: Harry Toze at June 10, 2016 07:46 PM (QFhci)

338
Only 13 days till Brexit. I know the Brexit people have been knocking on doors while the Remain people have been spreading wild scare stories.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

What kind of names are they calling each other?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

339 For those who missed it, Charles Wade lost it on twitter the other day. He says he's not a pimp but knew the girl was a prostitute. Right. Then providing her a room where you know she will turn tricks makes you a pimp.

https://ghostbin.com/paste/bzf4j

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:46 PM (iQIUe)

340 If you go through the list of faces of the fallen, our war dead, there are a ton of "Mexican" names.

Would it be cool to call those people "Mexicans?"

My last name is German. I don't want to be considered "German."

"Oh, he's German, so he must be for lower defense spending."

Your law firm can research and assume all they want, but its only because they are looking for an edge.

Its not like its some idealistic political position that should be taken by a candidate who will represent all of America.

and for his private lawsuit. That's what pisses me off.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (UBBWX)

341 >>>"Cuckold" and "cuck" are completely different slang terms, with entirely different meanings. No relationship, as far apart as Trump and a Mexican judge.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:43 PM (/m8T6)>>>

First of all, "cuckold" isn't a slang term. Second of all, they seem about as far apart as William and Will.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (4ueYo)

342 I will be mildly surprised if Brexit wins.

But I think, mostly, it's just the corpse twitching, even if it wins.

No so much internally - will leave that to those with a better feel for situation inside the UK - but as a world influence and medium power, they're done. Which would be a shame, except that the US is pretty much done, too (and no, not mostly or just because of current leadership or worn-out tactical aircaft).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

343 Cuckold is a fine old word

Cuckservative is a word made popular by neo Nazis. Like for real. You can use it all you want, but your audience e will stop listening to what you say.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (zOTsN)

344 320 I never heard the term "cuck" before I heard it used here. I heard the term "cuckold" but never thought of it having a racist meaning, just the "traditional" one.

I have never used it myself.

I think everybody needs to go out and have a drink.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (rmw+9)

The horde are good people who don't know or use that term.

I know it because see it on lots of twitter threads, and when you check the bio of the user--ewww.

I did see one new commenter use the word here, and he was later banned, not for that, but for shitting the bed in other ways.

It's just a tell.

Thanks to ace for providing the examples.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (ozZau)

345
Conservatives just want to be left alone, while the liberals are driven to destroy anyone who does not live in their delusion.

====

oddly they say much the same thing about us.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (

Transgendered bathrooms are the perfect example. Conservatives say, fine your bathrooms can be transgendere, but we would like our bathrooms to be male/female.

The result is no, they demand that their transgendered men can use 'our' female bathrooms.

Then they demand 'safe space' to keep us out, but when we want to keep them out in our safe space (male/female bathrooms) the answer is no. They demand inclusion into our life while keeping different rules for themselves.

Every single issue is that way. They have defined the issue, make the rules, protect themselves and demand that we submit to their alternate view of reality.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (/H27A)

346 You people are expending too much valuable energy on this. If you would just accept the fact that you are a alt+right racist and you view everyone who disagrees with as a cuck-servative, you could move on with other subjects.

Like, what's for dinner.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)

347
Anyhoo...

how many days until Ghosthymenbusters comes out?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (e+dTU)

348 I don't think he's racist. I don't give a shit. He's a progressive outside of his "Nationalist" tendencies.

Posted by: West Town at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (sTmwT)

349 Posted by: rhomboid at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (QDnY+)

Yeah the loss of the meaning of the word racist is truly a great loss. When differing opinion makes you a racist we've clearly gone off the deep end.

Racists are truly vile people. Unfortunately we no longer hold that word to a high standard.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (R5HRU)

350 WGAS? I just hooked up my new dual HP Z24n monitors... FUCKING AWESOME!

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (HgMAr)

351 Dear Ace: He didn't say "Hispanic" as you are constantly asserting. I grew up in the most Hispanic state in the union, and I know--believe me I know--what it means to call a US citizen who happens to be Hispanic a "Mexican". We used to call them Spanish, and if you call an Otero or a Baca whose families have been here 400 years a "Mexican" be prepared to fight. It is usually modified with "dirty". I also spent decades in a courtroom and you're right, but when it comes to challenging a juror for cause, you don't tell a judge named "Luis" that the jury has too many Mexicans. You might think it, but you don't say it loud and proud like Trump--unless you are a moron. Respectfully, you are trying too hard to defend a moron.

Posted by: New Mexican at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (0n+xS)

352 Good evening. My name is Seamus. I'm an oreoholic. It has been 3 years, 2 months 17 days and 45 minutes since my last Oreo™ cookie.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (NeFrd)

353 Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

Unfortunately it is not a small niche in the industry. Now I feel I have to explain how I know these things. Before the Internet did away with the business, I had a fraternity brother own a number of video stores of which the back room of porn was his biggest money maker.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:49 PM (MNgU2)

354 45 OT - What did Warren and Hillary talk about today? Was there a lot of ring kissing? Did they sit in a teepee and blow smoke rings together?
Posted by: IC at June 10, 2016 06:43 PM (a0IVu)

We no suck on peace pipe, if you catchem drift

Posted by: Liawatha and The Crooked Clinton at June 10, 2016 07:49 PM (12kBq)

355 >>>I'm listening to the end of the podcast while I'm reading this thread, and at one point the guys raise the Fed. Whatever happened to the Fed as an issue?

what i believe happened is this: the fed is a massive grant of federal power to a quasi-private institution. Everything about the fed is expert-level stuff -- economic forecasting, measuring money momentum, etc.

I think it's just too hard, seriously, for the average citizen to have some kind of opinion about it.

OR even politicians.

Because no one knows what the hell it is, it is just a Black Box no one ever looks inside and we just sort of hope it's doing its job.

I don't consider it some kind of "weird" issue. It's an important one -- it's just too arcane for most to even grapple with.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:49 PM (dciA+)

356 Whoa. My internet connection went out for a bit. I had to think for myself for a few minutes. Kinda scary, I'm not gonna lie.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 07:49 PM (dFi94)

357 "Yeah, 'coconut' is another one. "

Had a friend call herself that. Hispanic but I can speak more Spanish than she can.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:50 PM (9ym/8)

358 >> They should just be ignored: engaging them is as useless as trying to converse with a barking dog.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/12/23/worlds-smartest-dog-knows-words.html

Posted by: Keep that up and you can be your own best friend - Dogs at June 10, 2016 07:50 PM (X4FeV)

359 Defense attorneys hear that I was in the military for over a decade and a prosecutor to boot, they make assumptions and kick me off, without EVER asking me about my beliefs.

In both criminal and civil trials. They do not want me because they have made reasonable assumptions about who I am and how I would think

Trumps comments are no different. It's juvenile to pretend otherwise

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:50 PM (zOTsN)

360
Anyone see 10 Cloverfield Lane?

I can think of at least 5 reasons I want to avoid it.

1. JJ Abrams
2. John Goodman
3. Horror movie
4. Shaky camera, I assume
5. JJ Abrams

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:50 PM (e+dTU)

361 I'm sorry but 'cluckservative' is out. I just did a Bing search with the Safe Search off and got clips of newscasters saying, "Keep on fucking that chicken."

The public would never go for it.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (PLnZs)

362 If a young black man walked around dressed like a gang member, and then later went on the internet to whine about how discriminatory it was that people stayed away from him, what would you say to him?

If a young woman dressed like a streetwalker and stood at a street corner, and then later went on the internet to whine about how discriminatory it was that random men would ask her "how much", what would you say to her?

Well you're using fucking white supremacist buzzwords. Fine, whatever, that's your right. It doesn't necessarily make you a racist. But don't fucking whine about the PC police victimizing you if people assume that somebody using white supremacist buzzwords IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST. This is basic freaking common sense. Christ, if this was anywhere but the AoS comment section, I'd assume you guys were either white supremacists or, more likely, 4Chan trolls and straight up ignore you. Drop this oppression bullshit when others make the same rational assumption.

Posted by: JT at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (CZaQB)

363 It has been 3 years, 2 months 17 days and 45 minutes since my last Oreo cookie.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (NeFrd)
==============================================

Yer doin it wrong

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (dFi94)

364 >>>346 You people are expending too much valuable energy on this. If you would just accept the fact that you are a alt+right racist and you view everyone who disagrees with as a cuck-servative, you could move on with other subjects.

Like, what's for dinner.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)>>>

Indeed. All political discussion is pointless at this juncture anyway. And will soon be illegal. Best to start focusing on living our lives as best we can in the absence of freedom.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (4ueYo)

365 I do think Oreo are the best commercially made cookies.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (d9qXV)

366 First of all, "cuckold" isn't a slang term. Second of all, they seem about as far apart as William and Will.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (4ueYo)
---------------------------------------

I hate to be a word dick right back, but first of all, the porn use being discussed up above in the thread is a degraded form of the dictionary meaning of the word, so yes, slang. And second, if the slang term "cuck" has any relationship to the word "cuckold", its so attenuated that the relationship is meaningless. So screw you.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (/m8T6)

367 128 110
What's funny is that Political Hat has used the word "cuck" in explaining the word's usage epidemic amongst Trump supporters at least 100X more than you'll ever find on the internet.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (e+dTU)

____

The only reason I know about the word is because I read about it here. Other than that I don't think I've ever seen it anywhere else.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 10, 2016 07:02 PM (0LHZx)

I like Hat. He's a good guy.

But, man, what is all of this about the "alt-right"? (Yes, those are scare quotes)

It's something I have never ever heard about before, oh, say 4-5 months ago.

They suddenly appeared to the elite among us-

it's as if Oblabla's administration's bizarre concern with the incredible danger posed by domestic white Christian terrorists suddenly appeared valid.

Oh. My. God. You don't think there could be any connection between that and-.....no, no...as we know there's no false operations run by the most pure of Democratic regimes.

How silly of me.

But....there was that Fast and Furious thing....where they set up a fake situation for gun control and Benghazi where they sent a guy to prison for a movie....and-

Well, that's just crazy talk.

Please everyone just ignore me.

Those nefarious alt-righters who are out there alt-righting everywhere are a real non-manufactured danger for sure to everyone.

I'm sure any day now those terrible alt-righters will disappear from twitter-

and appear in the real world where be will all be amazed and dismayed by their vast numbers of 56 fat guys who live in their Mom's basement and are on Soros payroll.

Annnnnyyyyyyyy day now.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (HGtd0)

368 >>>3
I you hear him say the words, it is racist, if you did not hear him, and
only heard reports, you can vary in what you believe. What Trump said
WAS racist<<.

A little late to the conversation but what race are you referring to bub. And while you are about it please define racism for me.

Posted by: Javems at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (yOqwj)

369 If you would just accept the fact that you are a alt+right racist and you view everyone who disagrees with as a cuck-servative, you could move on with other subjects.

Like, what's for dinner.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 07:47 PM (WVsWD)

Just nothing Kosher...

Posted by: Alt-Righter at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (vBeA5)

370 New Mexican

They won't say why at all. They will just use preemptive strikes. You know that

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (zOTsN)

371 Trump is bltatant racist and everyone knows it. Anybody who supports him has to be one too. 50% of the poll respondents are liars.

The GOP needs to give him the bum's rush.

Posted by: Maurice W. at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (+GXEq)

372
Classic Guardian. Queen's Birthday? "a front for middle-class nationalism that celebrates the cruelty of austerity".

==========
It's traditional to have street parties. I guess that is offensive or something.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (iQIUe)

373 I've read it on the interwebz. All I'm saying is, the word doesn't mean what it means in Merriam Websters anymore.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (R5HRU)Yeah, that's my point. It certainly did get it's start as a metaphor from cuckold porn, but it was simply a metaphor. Sometimes that metaphor was turned into a double entente where it could be applied as relevant, David French for example, but generally most of us still use it as a metaphor for betrayal, however as you noted the definition of words change and there are more than one. That doesn't mean I'm going to be shamed into not using it. Neither the left nor you will create the frame of reference in which I live. Since we are having this discussion on Ace's site then he does have the power to declare the word a bannable offense, and I'm fine with that, and won't use the term here.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (di/ST)

374 365
I do think Oreo are the best commercially made cookies.

Posted by: Skip

Nabisco, please.

Posted by: Fig Newtons at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (LAe3v)

375 We should be proud of Oreos, but if your white, you're racist for admitting it...

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (12kBq)

376 "I do think Oreo are the best commercially made cookies."

*pulls switchblade*

Hydrox, bitches!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (9ym/8)

377 "Keep on fucking that chicken."

The public would never go for it.

They will in private.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (BO/km)

378
Trump is bltatant racist and everyone knows it. Anybody who supports him has to be one too. 50% of the poll respondents are liars.

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (e+dTU)

379 I said this before.
Trump has to stop talking to everyone like they are six years old. I get the one liner, five second commercial tagline he used during the primaries.

His acceptance speech after his CA win in which he read a scripted piece on teleprompters was miles above any of his unscripted off the cuff , like in your living room commentary. What makes him attractive to a lot of voters, who feel he is able to understand and connect with them, sends the vocal media, never trumpers and democrats into a frenzy of accusations.

What he said about the judge was 1. True, the judge is of Mexican heritage 2. not racist, because Mexicans are not a race. If I become a Mexican citizen, did my race change?

The left has done a bang up job calling everything racist to the point that most people don't care and tune it all out.

According to them, if I don't want a man in the woman's restroom, I'm racist. If I don't pay a black employee more than everyone else, I'm racist. If my neighborhood doesn't have at least 50% black residents, it's racist. If I say the words, "fried chicken" it's racist. The color Negro, an actual Spanish word for black is banned and was removed from crayon boxes because it's racist. To say someone is black is racist. To say someone is Haitian is racist. To order a Cuban sandwich is racist.

Do you all really think that four months from now, the American voting public is going to be in hysterics because Trump said the judge couldn't be fair to him in his case because the judge was "Mexican"? The only people concerned about being called racist any more are Republican Congress members. The general public gave up on that battle years ago and just ignore it anymore.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (V+oVw)

380 Anyone see 10 Cloverfield Lane

===

yes

wasnt bad

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (Cq0oW)

381 Cuckold =/= cuck. Clear?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:42 PM (ozZau)

Really?

You really want to go there now? After this?

144 113 "cuck

Don't want to sound stupid but what is that?
Posted by: donna at June 10, 2016 06:58 PM (O2RFr)

Not a stupid question. Short for the old word cuckold. It's a term used by some Trump supporters on the internet. It refers to white men who let their women have sex with black men. It's also deployed against white people who have adopted children of other races. They extend the use to anyone who doesn't support Trump.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:06 PM (ozZau)

Sure seems like you think they're the same.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (bMG0w)

382 >>>Dear Ace: He didn't say "Hispanic" as you are constantly asserting. I grew up in the most Hispanic state in the union, and I know--believe me I know--what it means to call a US citizen who happens to be Hispanic a "Mexican". We used to call them Spanish, and if you call an Otero or a Baca whose families have been here 400 years a "Mexican" be prepared to fight. It is usually modified with "dirty". I also spent decades in a courtroom and you're right, but when it comes to challenging a juror for cause, you don't tell a judge named "Luis" that the jury has too many Mexicans. You might think it, but you don't say it loud and proud like Trump--unless you are a moron. Respectfully, you are trying too hard to defend a moron.

are you actually a new mexican? if so, I have a question. back when New Mexico was a recent acquisition of the US, what were native mexicans-now-become-american-citizens called? I've seen them referred to as Neuva Mexicanos, or similar things; do you know other terms?

Like I mean in the 1850s when there definitely were people who were actual Mexican, but were now American (for a few years) due to the acquisition of the state by the US.

Oh and as for the trump matter: I'm tired of being told that things everyone thinks (and should think), somehow shouldn't be said.

It's silly. If there is good reason to think someone is liberal -- he's from new york, he's Jewish, he's got his own shadegrown shopping bags at Whole Foods-- then it is the height of absurdity to say "it's racist for you to SAY he might be a liberal. You can only THINK this obvious thing. But to SAY it would cause a social riot."

This is absurd. Absurd.

You are ladeling ever more ridiculous and restrictive speech codes, ever more baroque Euphemisms on everyone.

That's the liberals' job. Why don't you let the liberals do their job, and you do your job?

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (dciA+)

383 I like those white chocolate macadamia nut cookies. Are they Pepperidge Farm?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (dFi94)

384 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:46 PM (iQIUe)

Who is Charles Wade?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (Mt8T4)

385 Here is a little secret

Hispanics who aren't Mexicans aren't offended

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (zOTsN)

386 no shakeycam BTW

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (Cq0oW)

387
Hydrox, bitches!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Sounds like bleach.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (IqV8l)

388 353
Unfortunately it is not a small niche in the industry. Now I feel I have to explain how I know these things. Before the Internet did away with the business, I had a fraternity brother own a number of video stores of which the back room of porn was his biggest money maker.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 07:49 PM (MNgU2)

OK, thanks. But it's a bit unsettling that it's not as small a niche as I assumed it was.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

389 Sidebar Item:
Please Stop Claiming That "Cuckservative" Is Not a Term Used by Racists and Anti-Semites. Thank You.

Who says that? I thought the dispute was whether the term is used exclusively by racists and anti-Semites, or whether the term has a wider usage. The statement above suggests that the word is a marker. That the mere fact that someone uses the term proves that they are therefore racist and/or anti-Semitic.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (R+30W)

390 They will in private.

Posted by: The Chicken

Poultry on the down-low.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (LAe3v)

391 Anyone see 10 Cloverfield Lane?

I did. It's surprisingly good.

Mostly, due to the excellent acting job by John Goodman-

I'd forgotten that he wasn't just some turkey and all the fixings eating mofo but

had real chops.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (HGtd0)

392 Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (di/ST)
I understand your point however I'll say again; guilt by association. I really don't see how it's not common sense at this point.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (R5HRU)

393 It has been 3 years, 2 months 17 days and 45 minutes since my last Oreo cookie.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2016 07:48 PM (NeFrd)
.......................

You really should hire black hookers more often.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (HgMAr)

394
I like Milanos. They are chocolate inside and blond on the outside. A wigger?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:56 PM (iQIUe)

395 But, man, what is all of this about the "alt-right"? (Yes, those are scare quotes)

It's something I have never ever heard about before, oh, say 4-5 months ago.

How many people have heard of the term "kyriarchy"?

Yet those who believe that a "kyriarchy" exists are indeed out there, have been increasingly outing themselves, and are the ones who have actual control of the educational system in America.

Just because they've kept is sub rosa doesn't mean that they are a recent invention.

Just because they aren't a majority, doesn't mean that they can't have an undue influence and degree of power.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 07:56 PM (vBeA5)

396 Sunset Boulevard is on TCM now

Posted by: derit at June 10, 2016 07:56 PM (OC+TJ)

397
no shakeycam BTW

This is unexpected. I will take your opinion under consideration, then.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:56 PM (e+dTU)

398 I don't know. The MFM painted super nice guy Romney with "binders full of women" it was dumber than a bag of hammers but he just took it and he lost. Trump actually has a lot of baggage but he swings back when attacked. I'd like to see him get Condaleeza Rice as VP for political experience, + counter the race and gender BS. If he is going to lose anyway and she doesn't care to be in politics it would be perfect

Posted by: Palerider at June 10, 2016 07:57 PM (dkExz)

399
shaky or shakey? I wanted to spell it 'shakey' too but my spellcheck says nyet.

Isn't there a chain called "Shakey's."

Stuckey's??

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 07:57 PM (e+dTU)

400 How many people have heard of the term "kyriarchy"?

=======================================

Episcopalian?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dFi94)

401 379 Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (V+oVw)
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His most annoying tendency is that he punches down at every opportunity. He's running for President; this Trump U suit only matters as far as it affects his campaign, and he should ignore the judge. He should ignore every annoying personality he can, and stay on his message.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (/m8T6)

402 Trump actually has a lot of baggage but he swings back when attacked.

Imagine how much better off he'd be if he fought back but also didn't say stupid things that give the Dems a plausible avenue of attack.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (LAe3v)

403 >>>Well you're using fucking white supremacist buzzwords. Fine, whatever, that's your right. It doesn't necessarily make you a racist. But don't fucking whine about the PC police victimizing you if people assume that somebody using white supremacist buzzwords IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST.

"88" tattoos are Nazi tattoos, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 means Heil Hitler.

now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)

404 2. I have been called for jury duty 4 times. Everytime the defense attorney laughs when he or she hears my history during vior dire and kicks me off with a preemptive strike post haste. They kick me off because 11 years in the military as a prosecutor. They want nothing to do with me. They are not the least bit interested in discussing the case with me to determine if I have bias. They assume I do and get rid of me first. Always.
Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 07:44 PM (zOTsN)

Ha, I bet they do run from you.
I ALWAYS get picked, even the one time I told the court I had been a victim of that particular crime, and all the women with similar experiences were stricken.

I have an unassuming manner, and I think they think I'm a creampuff, but the last rape trial I served on I was the one talking the four "not guilty" voters into throwing the book at the defendant.

It's why I don't try to get out of jury duty.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (ozZau)

405 Shakey's is pizza. Stuckey's is nut rolls on the side of a highway.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (dFi94)

406 Grammie - I don't know about Pepperidge Farm, but the best ones are made by Mrs. Skookumchuk. And the second best ones by the Hawaii Cookie Company.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (/WPPJ)

407 >>>I hate to be a word dick right back, but first of all, the porn use being discussed up above in the thread is a degraded form of the dictionary meaning of the word, so yes, slang. And second, if the slang term "cuck" has any relationship to the word "cuckold", its so attenuated that the relationship is meaningless. So screw you.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 07:51 PM (/m8T6)>>>

I have no idea what you're getting at. It's an old word. It is not slang. I'm not sure why you're saying "screw you." Whatever.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (4ueYo)

408 365
I do think Oreo are the best commercially made cookies.

Posted by: Skip
.......................

Unless you're here in CA where Gamesas rule.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (HgMAr)

409 Hydrox's are older than Oreos

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (d9qXV)

410 "Do you all really think that four months from now, the American voting
public is going to be in hysterics because Trump said the judge couldn't
be fair to him in his case because the judge was "Mexican"?"

I don't know. How many times do you think Trump saying, "He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall" will appear in ads between now and November?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (ktzHq)

411 274 >>>Welp, in the age we are in using the term cuckservative is generally used by some racist asshole. If you use the term, fine, but words have consequences.

Guilt by association.
Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:27 PM (R5HRU)>>>

The left is constantly warping the meaning of words to fool people. I'm sick of the stupid hijacking of the English language. But, I don't use the term because (1) I generally try to avoid unreasoned insults; and (2) I've been successfully cowed from using non-racial words by the fascist word police.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 07:33 PM (4ueYo)

++++

Only it isn't the Left that is warping the meaning of this particular word. The word isn't deployed against the Left. It is used against some on the Right. It is people on the Right who are objecting to the word based on the meanings they have injected into it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (R+30W)

412 392
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:52 PM (di/ST)

I understand your point however I'll say again; guilt by
association. I really don't see how it's not common sense at this point.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 07:55 PM (R5HRU)

Again, I make the point you don't get to define my reality. I'm not going to agree to your context, and thus give you the power to define me. I don't care what you think, but I do respect the calm and thoughtful manner in which you've made your argument.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (di/ST)

413 This isn't Nam, there are rules!

Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (2X7pN)

414 OK if half of you want to say trump is engaging in racism, then you reflect the polling. no surprise.

can we talk about how Hillary is the antichrist now? That's always fun.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (Cq0oW)

415 Cuck-Suckers!!

Posted by: Albert Swearengen at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (h67G1)

416 Go look at cuckold porn. Self explanatory.
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I can't help but wonder if you're a white guy that gets off most watching big black dicks (I assume casting for porn goes by stereotype) go to work, if maybe racism isn't your issue.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (3Liv/)

417 Hydrox, bitches!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Sounds like bleach."

Yes, it does. But they are nice, reliable mass produced product and rather affordable for a family on a budget.

*tosses switchblade from hand to hand*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (9ym/8)

418 Condi would be the perfect running mate for Trump. Unfortunately there is too much downside for Condi.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:01 PM (MNgU2)

419 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 10, 2016 08:01 PM (+GXEq)

420
Stuckey's is nut rolls on the side of a highway.

Yeah, what an odd business model. It works, I guess.

Hey, but even Howard Johsnons flopped eventually.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:01 PM (e+dTU)

421 Nothing wrong with Gamesa's Marias. Biscoff's for the intense experience with a cup of joe, then an easy finish with Gamesa's Marias. Perfect.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (/WPPJ)

422 are you actually a new mexican? if so, I have a question. back when New Mexico was a recent acquisition of the US, what were native mexicans-now-become-american-citizens called? I've seen them referred to as Neuva Mexicanos, or similar things; do you know other terms?

Like I mean in the 1850s when there definitely were people who were actual Mexican, but were now American (for a few years) due to the acquisition of the state by the US.

Oh and as for the trump matter: I'm tired of being told that things everyone thinks (and should think), somehow shouldn't be said.

It's silly. If there is good reason to think someone is liberal -- he's from new york, he's Jewish, he's got his own shadegrown shopping bags at Whole Foods-- then it is the height of absurdity to say "it's racist for you to SAY he might be a liberal. You can only THINK this obvious thing. But to SAY it would cause a social riot."

This is absurd. Absurd.

You are ladeling ever more ridiculous and restrictive speech codes, ever more baroque Euphemisms on everyone.

That's the liberals' job. Why don't you let the liberals do their job, and you do your job?

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (dciA+)

In California they were known as Californios, and to a large degree were Castillian ethnically.

It used to be that if you called a decendant of Californios "Mexican", you were insulting them. Those decendants did not speak a word of Spanish for generations, and intermixing with Whites was not big deal whatsoever.

Now, if a White man tried to date a women of more modern Mexidan descent, they might get beaten. Try that with a woman of Central American descent, and you'll likely get murdered.

If the rolls were reversed, the killers would be charged with a H8 crime and executed.

The idea that "only White people can be racist" and that non-Whiteness = moral purity is too ingrained into education now-a-days to just dismiss that it exists.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (vBeA5)

423 The podcast was pretty good; I enjoyed the discussion. Some great points were made.

Posted by: Swift Kick Meet Hipster at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (uaHyk)

424 419
Miss me yet?

Posted by: Marco Rubio

We'll let you know.

Posted by: Snowball in Death Valley at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (LAe3v)

425 I'd like to see him get Condaleeza Rice as VP for political experience, + counter the race and gender BS. If he is going to lose anyway and she doesn't care to be in politics it would be perfect
Posted by: Palerider at June 10, 2016 07:57 PM (dkExz)

Remember, the left already has lots of Condi Rice cartoons in storage. Particularly the one where she is a mammy, big lips and all, rocking in a chair while cradling aluminum tubes the left said she lied about.

Remember though, they aren't racist in the least.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (V+oVw)

426 "Well you're using fucking white supremacist buzzwords."

No. The language we have used, always used, is being redefined by the political left.

Lets take 'automobile'. Conservatives believe it is liberating, Personal freedom to travel when and where we please.

Now lets redefine 'automobile' to mean polluting, gas guzzeling, environment destroying, over priced toy of the very rich. Causing congestion on city streets, a danger to bike riders and pedistrians, causing tens of thousands of unnecessary fatal injuries every year. So now the liberal left want to deny conservatives the personal freedom to travel and they outlaw privately owned environmentally destroying automobiles and call you white priviledged for owning one.

(Take every argument for gun control and rewrite it for cars.)

I am not a racist for driving my car, owning a gun, and speaking my mind freely, even if you rewrite the language and make me a white supremicist by definition.

You want to rerite the meaning of the words I speak, call it hate speach, all because you want me destroyed. That's the game that is being played here.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:02 PM (/H27A)

427 Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (di/ST)

I'm not trying to define your reality or you, I'm just pointing out what I see as plain as a day in front of me and just saying use the word if you like but don't be surprised if peoples eye glaze over after you use the word.

Also run away if you someone gets a boner and a steely intense look in their eyes.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (R5HRU)

428 >>>now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)>>>

Not saying you're wrong, but it is the same thing the #NeverTrumper's do with Trump supporters. #NeverTrumpers don't give a shit about Trump supporters' self serving explanations as to why they're following a racist pol.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (4ueYo)

429 now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)

...So do you mean to tell me that everyone with the "SS" lightening bolts tattooed on their necks is a racist?

Cmon now!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (AkOaV)

430
Often times on I-95 I think Hey, I'd love a nut roll, right now. But I'm on the highway in the middle of nowhere, where will I ever find a nut roll? Sigh.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (e+dTU)

431 Anything I miss?

The law firm handling the case has paid the Clinton's 675,000 for speaking engagements

Posted by: flawless Male Logic

Whoa ... linky

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (Doh4+)

432

HEB used to make an Oreo like cookie but the cookies were vanilla and the frosting was cherry lime Ade. Only made them in the summer. Better than any Oreo

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (zOTsN)

433 'Stuckey's is nut rolls on the side of a highway.'

I prefer the ones at the airport.

Posted by: Larry Craig at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (BO/km)

434 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 10, 2016 08:01 PM (+GXEq)

Yes! My illegal cleaning lady called in sick yesterday. Can you fix me up bro?

Posted by: Also, hear of any good foam parties lately? at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (X4FeV)

435 I can't help but wonder if you're a white guy that gets off most watching big black dicks (I assume casting for porn goes by stereotype) go to work, if maybe racism isn't your issue.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (3Liv/)

What about interracial lipstick lesbians?

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (vBeA5)

436 *pulls switchblade* Hydrox, bitches!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (9ym/

Oh please...don't hurt me *gently takes knife away* Here, have a frosted circus animal.....

YUUUUUMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (hjZjI)

437 twilight zone re: this conversation

is tonight the idaho primary?

Posted by: concrete girl at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (ceWrl)

438 Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:00 PM (3Liv/)

I think this is directed at me. No I'm not a white guy.

Your Concern status: Noted.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (R5HRU)

439 ...So do you mean to tell me that everyone with the "SS" lightening bolts tattooed on their necks is a racist?

Cmon now!

They could be big fans of Silly String. You don't know.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (LAe3v)

440 The implication of Trump's remarks were that some people can never be American. That has people like my neighbors hopping mad because his wife is Vietnamese and their children and grandchildren are mixed race,

Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (kokyd)

441 417 What are the cookies with the chocolate stripes on top? Somebody like Keebler makes them.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (e3bId)

442
Fudge Stripes?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (e+dTU)

443 I don't know. How many times do you think Trump saying, "He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall" will appear in ads between now and November?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 07:59 PM (ktzHq)

Hopefully, thousands. Hillary today said she wants to provide more funding for PP, and "reform" immigration.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 08:06 PM (V+oVw)

444
Not only do Fudge Stripes have chocolate stripes on top, I'm pretty sure the bottom is chocolate.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:06 PM (e+dTU)

445 I don't think there is one AntiChrist. I think there are people who are against Christ and Christians and Hillary may be one of them, but since the thought about the Anti Christ is that it's a person (man, really) who is charismatic who will do signs and wonders in order that people would believe this person is Christ. Hillary doesn't fit the description.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:06 PM (rmw+9)

446 "Yeah, what an odd business model. It works, I guess. "

I can remember stopping at Stucky's. Mom always got the pecan log. All the crap they had inside the store. Food. Toys. Knick-nacks.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:06 PM (9ym/8)

447 Speaking of fudge, remember Carvel and Fudgy the Whale?

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (e3bId)

448 Cuckold is a fine old word

-
Hillary is a cuckette, an old cuckette.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (Nwg0u)

449 Fudge Stripes

====

motherfucker, what did you just call me?!?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (Cq0oW)

450
I can remember stopping at Stucky's.

Was that before or after stopping at South Of The Border? What a dump.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (e+dTU)

451

I saw a guy at a pool. 88 tattoo. Huge ornate cross the whole width of his back, written underneath "White Warrior"

I assumed he was a neo Nazi, mainly because he was to young to be an actual original issue Nazi

His tattoos were a "tell". I didn't ask him about it

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (zOTsN)

452 So, the Belmont is tomorrow. My son is going and he tells me that there's always a big group of expert horse followers suddenly showing up in his friend group. His theory is that they admire the horses because who else gets to play a sport until they are three and then retire to have unlimited sex with an endless stream of mares for the rest of their lives?

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 08:07 PM (/m8T6)

453 Trump actually has a lot of baggage but he swings back when attacked.

Imagine
how much better off he'd be if he fought back but also didn't say
stupid things that give the Dems a plausible avenue of attack.

Posted by: pep

Come on, you want George Washington.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (Doh4+)

454 Just because they aren't a majority, doesn't mean that they can't have an undue influence and degree of power.

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 07:56 PM (vBeA5)

Hat,

You're going to have to show me anywhere that the dreaded "alt-right" shows even a picovolt of real world power in the real world-

and not some phoney-baloney twitter comment world?

Remember the Tea Party rallies where some racist a-hole would show up shouting racist a-hole remarks and holding up racist a-hole signs-

and every time, every single motherfucking time it would turn out that they were some Democrat operative/union hack/libtard activist.

This is the same thing- they've simply learned not to show their faces.

There's no there there.

Kkk-Types hold the same political/social power that they held one year ago...zero.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (HGtd0)

455 "Oh please...don't hurt me *gently takes knife away* Here, have a frosted circus animal.....

YUUUUUMMMMMMMMM"

Thank you, sir.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (9ym/8)

456 Other news heard today finding out your spouse is gay is no longer a viable reason for a divorce.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (d9qXV)

457 the thought about the Anti Christ is that it's a person (man, really)
who is charismatic who will do signs and wonders in order that people
would believe this person is Christ. Hillary doesn't fit the
description.

Do they say anything in the Bible about the a-C wearing butt-ugly clothing?

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (LAe3v)

458 445
I don't think there is one AntiChrist. I think there are people who are
against Christ and Christians and Hillary may be one of them, but since
the thought about the Anti Christ is that it's a person (man, really)
who is charismatic who will do signs and wonders in order that people
would believe this person is Christ. Hillary doesn't fit the
description.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:06 PM (rmw+9)

Maybe closer to The Whore of Babylon. Whores, gotta love 'em.

Posted by: Albert Swearengen at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (h67G1)

459 Oh forgot , in Delaware

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (d9qXV)

460 444 they do, I just wanted to avoid 'fudge' and 'bottom' in the same comment for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (e3bId)

461 The difference with 88, SS, and Iron Crosses is that there aren't a whole lot of other reasons to use those other than for racist purposes. "Cuckold" is an actual word that has been around a very long time with an actual definition that is racially innocuous.

Posted by: gm at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (4ueYo)

462 "88" tattoos are Nazi tattoos, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 means Heil Hitler.

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Huh?

Posted by: some Dale Earnhardt Jr. superfan at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (3Liv/)

463 Great discuss on "cuck" here from this guy. Perhaps y'all have heard of him.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/358061.php

Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (Koq2Z)

464 Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (e+dTU)

heh.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (dFi94)

465
Funny that you mention Fudgy The Whale. He and Cookie Puss also have un-endorsed Donald Trump.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (e+dTU)

466 What if he drives an Olds '88?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (Mt8T4)

467 448 Cuckold is a fine old word

Goes back to 13th century Middle English, per Merriam-Webster. This whole racial aspect everyone keeps talking about is an extremely recent invention.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (0mRoj)

468 Ace,
Re: The Federal Reserve,
Read "The Creature From Jekyll Island"
It tells the who, when, where, why, and how the FED came to be.
Also how it "works".
It's not pretty...

Posted by: ChrisP at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (LmeeL)

469 ...So do you mean to tell me that everyone with the "SS" lightening bolts tattooed on their necks is a racist?

I fell in to talking with one guy who had some of those tattooes once, waiting for a concert to start up (no, not Skrewdriver...).

The guy was (like me) a good part Jewish, maybe half, and had been sent up to Huntsville for arson (unlike me). He got out after four years and had picked up the tats in the meantime. For survival, he said.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (6FqZa)

470 BTW, ex-cons don't always have tons of cash on hand to immediately laser out those ugly tats

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (6FqZa)

471 I saw a guy at a pool. 88 tattoo. Huge ornate cross the whole width of his back, written underneath "White Warrior"

I assumed he was a neo Nazi, mainly because he was to young to be an actual original issue Nazi

His tattoos were a "tell". I didn't ask him about it

Posted by: ThunderB

So, he had a Trump hat?

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (Doh4+)

472 Graduated in 1988 ?

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (d9qXV)

473 The liberal defintion of "racism" is "to hold non-white people accountable for their words and actions" or "running against a Democrat."

Posted by: CrustyB at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (Hnglq)

474 I'm not trying to define your reality or you, I'm
just pointing out what I see as plain as a day in front of me and just
saying use the word if you like but don't be surprised if peoples eye
glaze over after you use the word.

Also run away if you someone gets a boner and a steely intense look in their eyes.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:03 PM (R5HRU)

I've agreed that the word as currently used is a reference to an obnoxious form of racialized porn, but it's a metaphor to apply that revulsion to people on the right who have betrayed us to progressives. It most certainly has been used on people like David French, because it was actually relevant, but those who it is relevant to is statistically small. You can tar those that took the bait as racist, but that's not the way many, many people use the term.
We have a choice to let you define it in the manner you wish, using a small sample size, or we can ignore your frame of reference. This is actually a huge issue because using the frame of reference to define reality is one of the most powerful tools of the left. They've used that power to define border security as racism, and there are many, many other examples. That's why you'll probably hear the frame of reference argument from more than just me.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (di/ST)

475 You're going to have to show me anywhere that the dreaded "alt-right" shows even a picovolt of real world power in the real world-

cough*picowatt*cough

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (LAe3v)

476 Huh?
Posted by: some Dale Earnhardt Jr. superfan at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (3Liv/)

-------------------

yeah, really. That and "14" for the fourteen words of -- "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Posted by: 29Victor at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (Koq2Z)

477 "Was that before or after stopping at South Of The Border? What a dump."

Never heard of....???

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (9ym/8)

478 >> Kkk-Types hold the same political/social power that they held one year ago...zero.

Bullshit. Scratch any white Christian in flyover country and there's a Nazi underneath.

Posted by: New York Jewish Intellectuals at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (X4FeV)

479 Okay, I thought "88" was associated with Nazis because of the 88mm guns. Didn't know it stood for HH/Heil Hitler.

*doffs Hugo Boss uniform*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (jR7Wy)

480
Alt-Right is another invention of the left ideologs.

If conservatives were smart, we would start calling Bernie Supports Alt-Left.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (/H27A)

481 So I'm at a QT getting gas and a lovely blonde woman in her 30's pulls in at the pump next to me blasting country music. As she walks away I note that she is a bit thinner than I care for, however she is participating in open carry.
As she comes back from going inside I see she's rather pretty and fairly when endowed chest wise. That is when the sexy wore off.
In her hand was a can of Skoal. She then snapped her wrist and thumped it with her trigger finger a few times. At that point I knew it was for her. Ick.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (hVdx9)

482 465 you can still get Fudgy the Whale and Cookie Puss at the grocery stores around NoVA. Not sure if they're national or what.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (e3bId)

483 Hey Hat,

On a more pleasant topic, check out the movie, "The Green Room".

Probably OnDemand now, though it's still in some theaters.

It's a thriller dealing with some neo-nazi types holding a punk band prisoner.

Very well done. With Jean-Luc Picard as the big bad.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (HGtd0)

484 I mean nobody in their correct mind finds Hillary Charismatic. They may like her as the woman to be a historic first, but Hillary is not, and has never been charismatic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (rmw+9)

485 "88" tattoos are Nazi tattoos, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 means Heil Hitler.

now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)

Jeez, this blog is a never ending cavalcade of information.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (3ZoRf)

486 Cuckold still has its old meaning, and it's usually not used in a racist way.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 07:41 PM (ozZau)

Bing search images for "cuckold" then.
If one wants to find offense on the internet you will.

Surely somebody has already noted this.
Probably right after Rule 34.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (P/kVC)

487 403 >>>Well you're using fucking white supremacist buzzwords. Fine, whatever, that's your right. It doesn't necessarily make you a racist. But don't fucking whine about the PC police victimizing you if people assume that somebody using white supremacist buzzwords IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST.

"88" tattoos are Nazi tattoos, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 means Heil Hitler.

now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)

++++

Fair point. In your hypothetical, it is reasonable to make the leap to your conclusion. It wouldn't even be a leap, more like a tiny little hop.

But, some people like to get an"88" tattoo for other reasons. Like it was their jersey number on their state championship football team. The whole team gets tattoos of their numbers, and so the guy who had an 88 on his jersey gets an 88 tattoo.

The number 88 is not inherently a Nazi sympathizing number, even though there are those who use it that way. The haters don't own the number. The rest of us still get to use 88.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (R+30W)

488 *pulls switchblade* Hydrox, bitches!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 07:53 PM (9ym/

Oreos are yummy while Hydrox taste like ass.

And yes, I know what ass tastes like so don't ask.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (ej1L0)

489
Goes back to 13th century Middle English,

====

from Cyckwolde, a forest in Wales where people ran away after stiffing their bookies.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (Cq0oW)

490 Bullshit. Scratch any white Christian in flyover country and there's a Nazi underneath.

Posted by: New York Jewish Intellectuals at June 10, 2016 08:11 PM (X4FeV)
==========================================

Can I get a witness !?!

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:12 PM (dFi94)

491 Hat,

You're going to have to show me anywhere that the dreaded "alt-right" shows even a picovolt of real world power in the real world-

and not some phoney-baloney twitter comment world?

Remember the Tea Party rallies where some racist a-hole would show up shouting racist a-hole remarks and holding up racist a-hole signs-

and every time, every single motherfucking time it would turn out that they were some Democrat operative/union hack/libtard activist.

This is the same thing- they've simply learned not to show their faces.

There's no there there.

Kkk-Types hold the same political/social power that they held one year ago...zero.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 08:08 PM (HGtd0)

I could offer the same challenge when it comes to those who believe in "kyriarchy".

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (vBeA5)

492 "It may be that intellectuals like mental exertion and considering difficult questions."

Real, actual intellectuals (like Einstein, Shroedinger, etc,) DO like such things; pretend intellectuals (or those that play them on TV) do not.

Posted by: Katzenjammer Kid at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (G57fe)

493 Only it isn't the Left that is warping the meaning of this particular
word. The word isn't deployed against the Left. It is used against some
on the Right. It is people on the Right who are objecting to the word
based on the meanings they have injected into it.
---
I think half the appeal of the term is the reaction it's getting from the people who it's intended to insult, while folks like ace who are genuinely upset by the etymology are brushed off.

I think andycanucks' formulation of "cluckservative" above might be fairly effective in separating the two.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (3Liv/)

494 "So, the Belmont is tomorrow. "

Thanks for reminding me. Come on, Sea Biscuit!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (9ym/8)

495 Whoever asked for a link to the fact that the law firm representing the suit against Trump U has paid hundred of thousands of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, here it is. Also some of the lawyers have maxed out donations to Hillary's campaign.
Information was originally unearthed by the Washington Post. The link below is to lawnewz, who goes into detail and provides additional links.

http://tinyurl.com/zk9zj3c

Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (V+oVw)

496 I don't think there is one AntiChrist.

-
Of course not. There's Hillary, Bernie, Lizzie, Reid, Obozo . . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (Nwg0u)

497 hydrox aren't as good as oreos, but they'll do in a pinch.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (ceWrl)

498 Boy, the internet must have sucked for those n00bs who happened to be born in 1988.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (6FqZa)

499 Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (di/ST)

I truly appreciate the discussion even if we disagree. You have some strong arguments I can't deny, just at the end of the day we don't quite see eye to eye.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (R5HRU)

500 Matt Lewis on Twitter today:

"If she wants to keep GOPers home, Hillary needs to "surgically" otherize Trump -- AND resist the temptation to cast aspersions on all GOPers."

***

Thanks, Conservative Mr. Helper!

Posted by: Azathoth at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (XN0hD)

501 Soft baked chocolate chip cookies. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (3ZoRf)

502 "And yes, I know what ass tastes like so don't ask..... "

O. Kay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (9ym/8)

503 I was thinking about Venezuela on drive to work, the people there voted the hell their living in. Bernie supporters if you sat them down showed them what voting shit for yourself does would all to a person do it anyway I'm sure.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (d9qXV)

504 Give me a sleeve of thin mints, or give me death!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (e3bId)

505 BTW, ex-cons don't always have tons of cash on hand to immediately laser out those ugly tats
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (6FqZa)

There are actually some non profit organizations that will assist in tat removal for ex-cons. My recommendation is laser off the neck and hand tats and do cover ups on the rest. Laser is 10 x the bitch as getting a tat.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:15 PM (MNgU2)

506
Hydrox are the Dodge Aries of cookies.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:15 PM (e+dTU)

507 504 Give me a sleeve of thin mints, or give me death!
Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (e3bId)

Enjoy your abortion cookies.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (0mRoj)

508 What about interracial lipstick lesbians?
---
Are they busty?

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (3Liv/)

509

Now I want a cherry lime Ade cookie

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (zOTsN)

510 Wow, Kyriarchy covers all the bases, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (3ZoRf)

511 88" tattoos are Nazi tattoos, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 means Heil Hitler.

now, if someone has an 88 tattoo and an iron cross, and he wants to tell me "Hey man I just think the number 88 is lucky, and what's wrong with an Iron Cross?," well, I'm going to call him a Nazi, and I really don't give a shit about all his self-serving explanations as to how he just happened to adorn himself with Nazi regalia.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:58 PM (dciA+)

Jeez, this blog is a never ending cavalcade of information.

Posted by: Aetius451AD
*****

Ace is dead right. When I was looking at a career in LE I studied gangs and gang tats. 88, Iron Cross, an AB, 14 in a celtic cross with a circle, etc. are white supremacist tattoos.
At one time the skinheads wore boots with various color shoe laces. The color denoted various things about them.
Some of them got a little smarter and made the tattoos less obvious.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (hVdx9)

512 "Whoever asked for a link to the fact that the law firm representing the
suit against Trump U has paid hundred of thousands of dollars to the
Clinton Foundation, here it is. Also some of the lawyers have maxed out
donations to Hillary's campaign."

Lawyers donating to a Democrat? Surely you jest! What madness is this?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (ktzHq)

513 >> Kkk-Types hold the same political/social power that they held one year ago...zero.

Bullshit. Scratch any white Christian in flyover country and there's a Nazi underneath.

-
Plus they control both houses of congress.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (Nwg0u)

514 Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (e3bId)

A handful of frosted circus animals and a glass of cold milk......

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (hjZjI)

515 Can't watch the Belmont. Three-hour ballet recital. I've already been to the End-of-School Talent show as well as the T-ball game this week. Next week starts Vacation Bible School so hopefully I'm off the hook for a few days. I hope they don't have an end-of-VBS musical.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (dFi94)

516 cough*picowatt*cough

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (LAe3v)

I am ashamed.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (HGtd0)

517 What about interracial lipstick lesbians?

This is another Vanessa Williams thread isn't it . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (6FqZa)

518 499
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:10 PM (di/ST)

I truly appreciate the discussion even if we disagree. You have some
strong arguments I can't deny, just at the end of the day we don't
quite see eye to eye.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:14 PM (R5HRU)

I can certainly see your point, and honestly this isn't a good hill to die on. However, because the left has so badly abused the frame of reference, it will be a hill that the alt right dies, or is victorious on, because they will refuse to allow you and the left to define their terms, so off to war we go.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:17 PM (di/ST)

519 Hydrox sounds like something you flush a wound with.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:17 PM (e3bId)

520 I wasn't sure if Hydrox's were still made, but am positive they are a older made cookies than Oreos who stole there idea.

Chocolate chip homemade cookies might be my favorite, but that's a hard choice to make.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (d9qXV)

521 "What about interracial lipstick lesbians? "

Go on.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (9ym/8)

522
Did you know they make Nutter Butter Bites?

What's the point of this "bite size" thing for everything?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (e+dTU)

523 440 The implication of Trump's remarks were that some people can never be American. That has people like my neighbors hopping mad because his wife is Vietnamese and their children and grandchildren are mixed race,
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (kokyd)

============
Then maybe you shd point out to them that Trump's first wife and current wife are naturalized citizens. You are the one making it about race.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (iQIUe)

524 "14
The problem with Ace's analysis is that Trump is dog whistling to actual racists.

But then what do I know, I'm just some neocon cuck crypto-Hillary supporter, right?

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:36 PM (vBeA5)"

Maybe. I just don't care any more.

I grew up believing that racism is very bad indeed and that racists are bad people who should be shunned. I also grew up believing that politicians who placed the interests of foreigners above the interests of Americans were essentially traitors who should be shunned. I grew up believing that a man who goes into a ladies rest room was a pervert and should be shunned. I grew up believing that someone in authority who would abandon fighting men to die for political expediency deserves contempt and should be shunned.

I have learned that nobody believes these things any more so I have decided not to believe them either.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (QHgTq)

525 467 448 Cuckold is a fine old word

Goes back to 13th century Middle English, per Merriam-Webster. This whole racial aspect everyone keeps talking about is an extremely recent invention.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (0mRoj)

Yes. It's taken on racial overtones because we're so stupidly obsessed with race.

But removing the racial aspect, I think it's a perfect term for the Paul Ryans and Mitch McConnells who are rushing to reassure the Dems that oh yes, we don't mind if you call our nominee racist, in fact, we'll join you. We'll look the other way when you fuck our base over because hell, we don't like them either.

Cuckolds were mocked because they were believed to be unmanly. If the shoe fits - I don't care what Ryan can bench press, he's still the Democrat's bitch.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (P8951)

526 Whoever asked for a link to the fact that the law
firm representing the suit against Trump U has paid hundred of thousands
of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, here it is. Also some of the
lawyers have maxed out donations to Hillary's campaign.

Information was originally unearthed by the Washington Post. The
link below is to lawnewz, who goes into detail and provides additional
links.

http://tinyurl.com/zk9zj3c

Posted by: Jen the original at June

Thank you.

Updated:

212
Correct me if I am wrong:

1. This lawsuit was brought by FIVE former students, FIVE.
2. The lawyer hawking it has been JAILED for improper class action lawsuit'ing
3. The judge is a current member of La Raza
4. La Raza, the Race, advocates for an ethnic group.
5. La Raza advocates for the breakup of the United States.
6.
When was the last time a Federal judge was nominated who was a member
of an organization calling for the secession of the white, slave owning
South, or an Aryan redoubt in Idaho? 1860s
7. The same news organizations running this have not run a single story on Laurlette U and the Clintons.
8.
The same 'Republicans' whining about Trump have not called for an
investigation in the public corruption at the heart of Laurlette U that
cost the taxpayers $55M.
9. The same Republicans whining about Trump
have not begun impeachment proceedings on the Judge; and some of them
may have even voted for his confirmation.
10. The lawfirm has donated hundreds of thousands to Hilary.

Anything I miss?

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (Doh4+)

527
When's the last time you bought a Girl Scout's cookie?

Do they even make them anymore?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (e+dTU)

528 I could offer the same challenge when it comes to those who believe in "kyriarchy".

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 08:13 PM (vBeA5)

I don't believe in either, so....

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (HGtd0)

529 A quick prison tat guide
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hneovpt

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (hVdx9)

530 This is another Vanessa Williams thread isn't it . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (6FqZa)

Honestly, at this point, I would take the Vanessa Williams thread over this.

She was an extraordinarily beautiful woman.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (3ZoRf)

531 IN addition when I see a young Hispanic man covered in MS13 tattoos, I assume he is a gang member

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (zOTsN)

532
lulz
Screw You, Girl Scouts!

http://badhowto.com/list-of-all-girl-scout-cookies-and-their-almost-identical-counterparts/

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (e+dTU)

533
This is another Vanessa Williams thread isn't it . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 10, 2016 08:16 PM (6FqZa)

==========
Amber Heard and her lesbian posse!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (iQIUe)

534 "When's the last time you bought a Girl Scout's cookie? "

Last year. Lady at the old job was helping her daughter. A tad pricey, but, what they hey.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (9ym/8)

535 I think this is directed at me. No I'm not a white guy.

Your Concern status: Noted.

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 08:04 PM (R5HRU)
---It was a response to you, but not directed at you. Cuckold porn presumably exists because there is a market for it. Folks who use a term for that style of porn *because* they're familiar with it are, I assume part of that market.

Sorry for the unspecific application of "you", perhaps "one" would have been more clear.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 10, 2016 08:19 PM (3Liv/)

536 Dale Jr. is a Nazi?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (adsSp)

537
467 448 Cuckold is a fine old word

Goes back to 13th century Middle English, per Merriam-Webster. This whole racial aspect everyone keeps talking about is an extremely recent invention.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:09 PM (0mRoj)
------------------------------------------

Yes, but it also refers in current slang use to an entire genre of porn. Or so I've heard. Someone once told me.]. It's a different word, as used, though related (kind of, insofar as "cuckold" used to connote that the female partner was having a discrete side relationship while the male partner remained unknowing while today it refers to something far different, and explicitly knowing and participatory, sort of), and the common usage today I believe we most often hear used is the modern, porn genre version of the word and not the older dictionary term.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (/m8T6)

538 Maybe we should demand the word liberal back or you can refer to yourself as a liberal because you won't let people define your words.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (MNgU2)

539 522
Did you know they make Nutter Butter Bites?

What's the point of this "bite size" thing for everything?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (e+dTU)

So you eat around 5 times as much as you would for a standard cookie or candy piece, apparently.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (3ZoRf)

540 514 just plain ol' animal crackers are good with milk. And they're not crackers at all!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (e3bId)

541 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (QHgTq)
================================================

I believe them too. So we've got you and me. Maybe we'll start a trend.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (dFi94)

542 Cuckolds were mocked because they were believed to
be unmanly. If the shoe fits - I don't care what Ryan can bench press,
he's still the Democrat's bitch.

Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (P8951)

This.

Posted by: I.C. Weiner at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (cmE8J)

543 I hope they don't have an end-of-VBS musical.

They didn't tell you?

"Jesus; His Life story-3 acts. 3 Hours" ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (rmw+9)

544 Last time we made the toll house chocolate chip recipe on the back of the Nestles bag, I ate most of the dough before we cooked it.

Well, I had help from the kids. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (hjZjI)

545 Err, I have used "88 mover" as a nom de web on occasion.

Do I have to explain?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (tEDMc)

546
And they're not crackers at all!

Nor are they animals!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (e+dTU)

547 527
When's the last time you bought a Girl Scout's cookie?

Do they even make them anymore?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (e+dTU)

I'm pretty sure they do, but I've been boycotting them since it was revealed they were in bed with Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (0mRoj)

548
Anything I miss?

===

Scott Adams says trump is setting the table so that if he loses the public just shrugs and says "guess he was right"

if he wins, great.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (Cq0oW)

549 kyriarchy

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Looks Greek so probably involves rear entry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (Nwg0u)

550 Years ago when I was still watching NASCAR, I had a co worker come up and ask if I knew NASCAR was full of neo NAZI messages. My response was "uh, no". He said one of the cars had '88' on it. I told him I doubted very much that Dale Jarret was a NAZI. I was pretty much token white boy at my last job. The things you learn when you don't tip toe through the tulips of stupid

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (syGA0)

551 More tats
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hy2gzcy

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (hVdx9)

552 440 The implication of Trump's remarks were that some people can never be American. That has people like my neighbors hopping mad because his wife is Vietnamese and their children and grandchildren are mixed race,
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (kokyd)

yes, there's an implication of dual loyalty that I don't like, given that some immigrants and first gen folks are very patriotic.

At this point I'm sick of the argument, and the only question I have is does this help him win, or not?

This election isn't about principles. It's about keeping Hildemort out of office.

The ONLY thing that matters to me now is who wins. Do the things Trump says advance that goal? Or not?

I myself don't know, but Trump better figure that out with his best people and great words.

Pick. Do his actions make him less likely, or more likely, to win?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (ozZau)

553 543 I hope they don't have an end-of-VBS musical.

They didn't tell you?

"Jesus; His Life story-3 acts. 3 Hours" ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (rmw+9)

If they wanted greater authenticity they'd tack on three days to the last act.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

554 They didn't tell you?

"Jesus; His Life story-3 acts. 3 Hours" ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:20 PM (rmw+9)
==============================================

Probably no intermission either.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (dFi94)

555 546 no, no they're not. But it's fun to bite they're little heads off.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (e3bId)

556 This is something that most of you don't seem to understand about the alt right. They believe strongly in the concept of control of the frame of reference, and often call it simply frame, and yes it came from the PUA community originally. Most of you Ace included don't seem to understand how powerful that concept is. It is important to define your enemy instead of letting your enemy define you. The right has long, been defined by the left. They create the reality in which you debate. Haven't you noticed that every issue important to you is now racist? It's because you have allowed the left to define reality, and you.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:23 PM (di/ST)

557 Obnoxious A-Hole at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM

Patriotism is also a bad word now. Anyone who wants a strong United States is a war mongering imperalist running dog and is racist.

That is the country we live in now. The country we were born into must be destroyed and a new country based on new rules must be built and we stand in the way of all of that.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:23 PM (/H27A)

558 Nothing beats a Cookie Puss.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 10, 2016 08:23 PM (Tyii7)

559 Err, I have used "88 mover" as a nom de web on occasion.
Do I have to explain?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (tEDMc)

Where most of the keys white?

Posted by: Rev Al at June 10, 2016 08:23 PM (cmE8J)

560 If they wanted greater authenticity they'd tack on three days to the last act.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)
==========================================

I better pack a lunch. I think I have some loaves and fishes in the house.....

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:24 PM (dFi94)

561 "Looks Greek so probably involves rear entry."

Hey!

Posted by: Anthony Quinn at June 10, 2016 08:24 PM (9ym/8)

562 I've seen plenty of girl scout cookie knockoffs that I also don't buy.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:24 PM (Cq0oW)

563 558 I'm a Fudgy man myself.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:24 PM (e3bId)

564 I've seen plenty of girl scout cookie knockoffs that I also don't buy.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich
*****

Not-So-Thin Mints?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:25 PM (hVdx9)

565 The media will use the alt-right against him, other Republicans, and ironically white people in general.

Posted by((ThePoliticalhat))) at June 10, 2016 06:46 PM (vBeA5)
First time for everything, I guess.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 10, 2016 08:25 PM (oKE6c)

566 Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (tEDMc)

To be honest, if you used it at Reason or WND or similar sites they would make assumptions.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (MNgU2)

567 I'll confess, I don't have a complete grasp of the whole "cuckservative" and what it means. I mean, I have a general idea. But I don't do social media so, if I were asked to define it, there would be lots of stammering.

Somebody in the sidebar has a hardon for this subject. I'm not picking sides, but if somebody wants to break it down for me. It's not purely a Trump thing is it? I thought that term appeared, en masse, before Trump became a thing. It's something alleged "conservatives" hurl at other alleged "conservatives"?

But it's purely racial? I don't quite get it.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (dBmVV)

568 I'll start doing my cookie shopping on the black market.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (e3bId)

569 I grew up believing that racism is very bad indeed and that racists are bad people who should be shunned. I also grew up believing that politicians who placed the interests of foreigners above the interests of Americans were essentially traitors who should be shunned. I grew up believing that a man who goes into a ladies rest room was a pervert and should be shunned. I grew up believing that someone in authority who would abandon fighting men to die for political expediency deserves contempt and should be shunned.

I have learned that nobody believes these things any more so I have decided not to believe them either.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (QHgTq)

Yep. And I give less than a fuck about any leftist calling me a racist. I also don't feel like I have to apologize for every stupid Jew-hater or bigot who claims to be on my side. Does anybody on the left ever apologize on behalf of their Jew-haters and bigots?

Trump doesn't apologize. The left has never apologized for one damn thing. It appears to be a winning strategy. That's why conservatives apologize for breathing air.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (P8951)

570 " I'm a Fudgy man myself."

We all knew that.

Posted by: Anthony Quinn at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (9ym/8)

571 527
When's the last time you bought a Girl Scout's cookie?
..................

When my boss brought his daughter to the office.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (HgMAr)

572 Keebler makes a cookie basically identical to the Samoa, but it actually tastes better than the GS version.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (0mRoj)

573 That's the liberals' job. Why don't you let the liberals do their job, and you do your job?

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2016 07:54 PM (dciA+)

Thank you.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (pZe82)

574 >>>>Where most of the keys white?<<<

Yeah but I make up for it moving the B-3's.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (tEDMc)

575 Err, I have used "88 mover" as a nom de web on occasion.
Do I have to explain?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living *****

RACIST!
Oh wait, what? Oh, sorry.
Seriously, unless you have piano mover in your sig or something, you may be considered a racist.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:26 PM (hVdx9)

576 Get away, Anthony!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:27 PM (9ym/8)

577 for an issue to be "racist" requires different races.
the Judge is an obvious Visigoth of Inquisitor stock.

Posted by: avi at June 10, 2016 08:27 PM (fijdj)

578 "Anything I miss?"

That despite all that it was still idiotic for Trump to start a shitstorm over his private fraud lawsuit during a campaign event. And stupider yet to double down and provide "He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall" as a soundbite to a campaign that will have a $300-500 million advantage in advertising budget.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 08:27 PM (ktzHq)

579 >>>>they would make assumptions.<<<<<<

You know what they say about people who assume.....

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:28 PM (tEDMc)

580 I had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number. A stupid world we live in.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:28 PM (syGA0)

581 I've seen plenty of girl scout cookie knockoffs that I also don't buy.

Beware. Some use "Girl" Scouts from Thailand.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (8ZskC)

582 If your blood type is AB, do NOT get it tattooed on you.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (0mRoj)

583 I grew up believing that racism is very bad indeed and that racists are bad people who should be shunned. I also grew up believing that politicians who placed the interests of foreigners above the interests of Americans were essentially traitors who should be shunned. I grew up believing that a man who goes into a ladies rest room was a pervert and should be shunned. I grew up believing that someone in authority who would abandon fighting men to die for political expediency deserves contempt and should be shunned.

I have learned that nobody believes these things any more so I have decided not to believe them either.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (QHgTq)

Yep. Apparently a lot of things I was taught growing up was a lie. So be it.

So I'll just say and think whatever I want and if anybody doesn't like it, especially liberal scum, well, eat shit.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (pZe82)

584
"Looks Greek so probably involves rear entry."

Hey!

Posted by: Anthony Quinn at June 10, 2016 08:24 PM (9ym/

Except that Quinn was actually Mexican.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (LuZz8)

585 svelte mints

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (Cq0oW)

586 I wish someone would tell me when Mexicans became a race. Trump's remark could be called disparaging but not racist. I am sick of the misuse of the word.

Posted by: jazzuscounty at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (iRHb1)

587 580 I had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number. A stupid world we live in.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:28 PM (syGA0)

In the words of a wise man: "What a stupid time to be alive."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (3ZoRf)

588 had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number.

-
I was told there'd be no math. Or Nazis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)

589 >>>>they would make assumptions.<<<<<<

You know what they say about people who assume.....

That's the present state of the internet. Code words, dog whistles, virtue signaling, tribal identification.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (/H27A)

590 582 AB+.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (e3bId)

591 OK, here is how I understand it:

1. "Cuckold" is an ancient word that has nothing to do with race. It refers to a husband whose wife is screwing around, and specifically, he is tricked into raising another man's children.

2. "Cuck" is a relatively new word, based on cuckold porn, which usually has a racial context: A white man gets off watching his white wife or girlfriend being screwed by a black man. Some people go so far as to use it to describe a white man who is married to a black woman and has mixed-race children, which has nothing to do with cuckoldry in the traditional sense. In that usage it's explicitly racist. It's more about "miscegenation" than cuckoldry.

3. "Cuckservative". Whatever its origins, I heard this word before I learned about point 2 above. I thought it was a perfect description of Republicans who roll over for Democrats at every opportunity, and routinely vote to approve leftist judges because they want to be "collegial". In this context I think it could be a useful term politically and not racially. It is certainly apt for the type of Republicans who want to go along to get along.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

592 This just in: Wesley Cook (Mumia al-Jabongie, or whatever name he made up) has just announced he's A-OK with having his most recent appeal heard by a judge who belongs to the Aryan Nation Jurists.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (oKE6c)

593 I'm pretty sure they do, but I've been boycotting them since it was revealed they were in bed with Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (0mRoj)

GTFO Planned Parenthood...thats my territory

Posted by: Roman Polanski at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (0LQ4f)

594 I had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number. A stupid world we live in.

Posted by: Puddleglum
****

I was at the bank one say and a rather large white guy was ahead of me. had a number of white supremacist tats on him.
Three leaf clover with AB, Viking with sword tat, the 88, the Thor's Hammer pendant tat, etc. I made it appoint not to talk to him. I have found guys like that are a little off in the head.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (hVdx9)

595 That's the present state of the internet. Code words, dog whistles, virtue signaling, tribal identification.

WTF???

Posted by: Kitteh Videos at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (8ZskC)

596 The interesting thing is that it seems to have always been a duopoly - Oreos and Hydrox. Were there any other similar cookies? Was there ever a third or fourth competitor? Not that I've found.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (/WPPJ)

597 Last time we made the toll house chocolate chip recipe on the back of the Nestles bag, I ate most of the dough before we cooked it.

Well, I had help from the kids. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 08:21 PM (hjZjI)
...................

Then did you go sit in the sun in a lounge chair and bake them?

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (HgMAr)

598 580
I had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had
no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number. A stupid world
we live in.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:28 PM (syGA0)

It's NASCAR and Jarrett is white. He's obviously a RACIST1!!!! Ace himself has declared that the symbol 88 is so ubiquitous a racist symbol that of course a white male NASCAR driver knew what he was doing. He should post Dale Jarrett's photo in the side bar with some snarky comment.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (di/ST)

599
This is like a Darwin Award waiting to happen:

https://goo.gl/tlxhdl

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:32 PM (iQIUe)

600 Anything I miss?
Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (Doh4+)

Yup...mentioned by another poster earlier. "Mexican" is not a race.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2016 08:32 PM (ej1L0)

601 Eli Wallach is a Jewish guy from Brooklyn I think

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:32 PM (d9qXV)

602 Thor's Hammer? I bet there are a lot of oops going around since the Marvel movies came out- on some women too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:32 PM (3ZoRf)

603 581 I've seen plenty of girl scout cookie knockoffs that I also don't buy.

Beware. Some use "Girl" Scouts from Thailand.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (8ZskC)

Mmm hmmm. I do believe I see a pecker in this here cookie, mmmhmmm.

Posted by: Carl Childers at June 10, 2016 08:33 PM (0mRoj)

604 I missed the whole "88" thing. That's a racist number now?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:33 PM (9ym/8)

605
I had to be told by my former co worker why '88' was a NAZI term. I had no idea. I just thought it was Dale Jarrett's car number. A stupid world we live in.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Does Dale have one of those spiked German helmets on the roof of his car?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 08:33 PM (IqV8l)

606 604 apparently so. Also out are thin mints and my blood type.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:33 PM (e3bId)

607
If your blood type is AB, do NOT get it tattooed on you.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (0mRoj)

And for goodness sake, DON'T get it tattoo'd under your left arm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_blood_group_tattoo

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (LuZz8)

608 Then maybe you shd point out to them that Trump's
first wife and current wife are naturalized citizens. You are the one
making it about race.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:18 PM (iQIUe)

Aren't they slavs?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

609 88 means "love and kisses" in telegrapher code. Just as 73 means "best regards."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (IqV8l)

610 If your blood type is AB, do NOT get it tattooed on you.

Posted by: Insomniac
******

I watched a prison doc where a guy who was not Aryan Brotherhood had the AB tat.
They held him down and cut if off with a razor blade.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (hVdx9)

611
FYI

Most bestiality is legal, declares Canada's Supreme Court

https://tinyurl.com/hfalopj

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (kdS6q)

612 604 I missed the whole "88" thing. That's a racist number now?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2016 08:33 PM (9ym/

H is the eighth letter in the alphabet. 88 means HH, an abbreviation of Heil Hitler.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (0mRoj)

613 Because you're right. Nobody will remember Trump criticizing a judge four months from now. So no one will remember the context. So they'll show a parade of Hispanic looking and sounding people talking about the business they built...He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall. Or won a silver star serving in Afghanistan...He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall.

And it's going to be played over and over and over.

I read today that Trump thinks he can win New York. He's going to spend a lot of money on yard signs and bumper stickers upstate. The least effective form of campaign spending but the candidate gets to see their name everywhere.

Fuck.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (ktzHq)

614 cuck and cuckservative are not trump specific words or centric whatever

there's a sense in which the alt right has issues with trump bc of his jewish daughter but thats not much gone over

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (Cq0oW)

615 Previous wife and current wife are immigrants. Daughter and grandchildren are Jewish.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (zOTsN)

616 Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (HgMAr)

I wished it down with a couple of cold glasses of milk and then I took a nap.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (hjZjI)

617 I was always sad that Francisco Quinn died. He had a coke related heart attack.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:35 PM (iQIUe)

618 This is a strange thread.

Posted by: Max Power at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (q177U)

619 yes, there's an implication of dual loyalty that I don't like, given that some immigrants and first gen folks are very patriotic.

At this point I'm sick of the argument, and the only question I have is does this help him win, or not?

This election isn't about principles. It's about keeping Hildemort out of office.

The ONLY thing that matters to me now is who wins. Do the things Trump says advance that goal? Or not?

I myself don't know, but Trump better figure that out with his best people and great words.

Pick. Do his actions make him less likely, or more likely, to win?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (ozZau)

Unfortunately, the reality is that there IS that dual loyalty more and more among both people coming here and people born here.

And in that dual loyalty, America finishes second.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (pZe82)

620 Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Nicely done. Now, grammie and granddad slove their kids but none of them want to attend a VBS musical that last three hours and three days.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (rmw+9)

621 Cuck predates Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (zOTsN)

622 I'm partial to 69 myself.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (HgMAr)

623 I missed the whole "88" thing. That's a racist number now?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill
****

Yup. has been for a loooong time thanks to the white supremacists.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (hVdx9)

624 610 If your blood type is AB, do NOT get it tattooed on you.

Posted by: Insomniac
******

I watched a prison doc where a guy who was not Aryan Brotherhood had the AB tat.
They held him down and cut if off with a razor blade.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (hVdx9)

Those guys are stone killers and take all that shit very seriously. You have to kill to get in, and you only get out when you die.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (0mRoj)

625 These aren't really Nazis. It's just that the Germans trained them in the old days. Or so they like to say.

http://tinyurl.com/nagg8vz

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 10, 2016 08:37 PM (/WPPJ)

626 618 This is a strange thread.
Posted by: Max Power at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (q177U)

Getting a lot of those lately.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 10, 2016 08:37 PM (3ZoRf)

627 Hydrox's were started in 1908, Oreos in 1912, Hydrox's were discontinued in 1999 but have started up again.

I eat a lot of cookies because I can.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:37 PM (d9qXV)

628 LOL Wut?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z3jjspj

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9tfvj9

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat))) at June 10, 2016 08:37 PM (vBeA5)

629 620 Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj)

Nicely done. Now, grammie and granddad slove their kids but none of them want to attend a VBS musical that last three hours and three days.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (rmw+9)

People used to camp in line that long to get concert tickets. Where's the dedication?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:38 PM (0mRoj)

630 Does Dale have one of those spiked German helmets on the roof of his car?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

That would have been totally cool if he did!! Alas, that would have played hell on the aero so nope, he didn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:38 PM (syGA0)

631 Their is no more republican/democrat and conservative/liberal by the old rule makers and word definers.

Please stop playing by the rules and using the words defined by our enemy.

Think about it....

Posted by: an inaider's insider on the inside at June 10, 2016 08:38 PM (9miVc)

632 Aren't they slavs?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

Slavry is illegal in this country.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 10, 2016 08:38 PM (Rki1x)

633 We seriously need a palate cleanser thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (rwI+c)

634 LOL Wut?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z3jjspj

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9tfvj9

Posted by: (((ThePoliticalHat)))
*****

Going after the nerdy masturbator voter?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (hVdx9)

635 632 Aren't they slavs?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

Slavry is illegal in this country.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 10, 2016 08:38 PM (Rki1x)

I love a good cole slav with my BBQ.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (0mRoj)

636 Ace, it's Friday. Can we have a pop culture thread?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (jR7Wy)

637 granddad love

That should be granddads "love", etc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (rmw+9)

638 The implication of Trump's remarks were that some people can never be American. That has people like my neighbors hopping mad because his wife is Vietnamese and their children and grandchildren are mixed race,
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at June 10, 2016 08:05 PM (kokyd)

Is your neighbor's wife Oriental?(The actual scientific term is Mongoloid) That is her race. Vietnam has something like fifty different ethnic groups.
Not sure why their children and grandchildren's race or mixture of such is even discussed.

Was she born in Vietnam? Or of Vietnamese heritage? Is she a native born American or naturalized citizen?

My point is as I posted above. The left has labeled everything racist as a way to get people to behave as they demand and to shut objectors up. And if you read your sentences, you appear to be saying that your neighbors wife is Vietnamese( a nationality), so their children are of mixed race(um, only if they are 1/2 Oriental) and somehow, Trump's complain that the judge's heritage as Mexican (a nationality) was biased to his case(I'm paraphrasing) is insulting to them.

And yes, Trump has been married twice to immigrants who came here legally. The potential first lady is a naturalized citizen. She voluntarily became an American.

Being an "American" is a shortened term for American Citizen, or Citizen of the United States.
One is either born a citizen or becomes one legally through a legal process.

The judge in Trump's case is an American. He relates and sympathizes with his Mexican Nationality heritage. A choice, unlike one's race.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (V+oVw)

639 618 This is a strange thread.

Just another night at the AoSHq

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (d9qXV)

640 I wished it down with a couple of cold glasses of milk and then I took a nap.
...................

You only get two more.

Posted by: the Genie at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (HgMAr)

641 My daughter is in Girl Scouts, and I feel like a dirty hypocrite because I loathe that organization and their radical left. But it was started as a "Daisy" group by a mom of my daughter's classmate back in Kindergarten (daughter going into 5th grade). It has gone from Daisy, to Brownie to Girl Scout.

I like the den mom a lot, there is zero politics involved and my daughter really enjoys this activity. Since we've been involved, we have sold exactly ZERO boxes of cookies - and there has never been any pressure to sell. I have even offered to give cash directly to the local group, but the den mom always declines.

So my contribution is about $25/yr to the Unholy Left to reregister. I'm not crazy about it, but daughter loves the crafts and camaraderie and I don't want to deny her that. It's certainly not the only $$ I give to the Unholy Left (involuntarily)

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (dBmVV)

642 And a goodly chunk of that 50% find pretty much everything racist.

Posted by: RKae at June 10, 2016 08:40 PM (kLw2y)

643 Can we have a pop culture thread?

Last Friday was movies that turned into a music thread, or vice versa, I was too drunk to remember.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 10, 2016 08:40 PM (rwI+c)

644 "Can we have a pop culture thread?"

I thought this WAS pop culture.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:40 PM (/H27A)

645
88 was nazi post war graffitti in germany.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:41 PM (iQIUe)

646 You know what? I think groups of people don't "own" words or "own" numbers. There are words and there are numbers. Did they buy the trademark? Take out a patent? If not, then I have as much right to use them as anyone else. I'm not going to be backed into a corner by some punk kid telling me what I can or cannot say. I try never to be offensive, but if I use a word that I'm not "supposed" to because somebody else "owns" it, tough. Stop making my world smaller and smaller. I don't have to sing their tune.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:41 PM (dFi94)

647 618 This is a strange thread.
Posted by: Max Power at June 10, 2016 08:36 PM (q177U)
......................

Well, at least we were successful in changing the topic from Trump to cookies.
Next up...boobehs!

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:41 PM (HgMAr)

648 Up Next - Is the word "is" racist?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:42 PM (P/kVC)

649 These threads make me thank God that I live in a sane place. No one, and I mean no one, tries this shit around here. Apparently the rest of the country is like a B crime movie.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 10, 2016 08:42 PM (rwI+c)

650 It's certainly not the only $$ I give to the Unholy Left (involuntarily)

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

----

I'm a goddmaned Teamster. I see my money flowing directly into the pockets of human filth... so your 25 bucks is completely forgivable.

Posted by: RKae at June 10, 2016 08:42 PM (kLw2y)

651 H Town with a lot of Astro symbols and 713 area code are tats for used by Houston Hispanic gangs.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:42 PM (MNgU2)

652 646 You know what? I think groups of people don't "own" words or "own" numbers. There are words and there are numbers. Did they buy the trademark? Take out a patent? If not, then I have as much right to use them as anyone else. I'm not going to be backed into a corner by some punk kid telling me what I can or cannot say. I try never to be offensive, but if I use a word that I'm not "supposed" to because somebody else "owns" it, tough. Stop making my world smaller and smaller. I don't have to sing their tune.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:41 PM (dFi94)

I'm still pissed at the homo lobby for ruining the word "gay" and co-opting the rainbow.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

653 We're in the mid 600's so I may have already missed the boobehs.

Posted by: wth at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (HgMAr)

654 I do believe Mexican became a race around the same time Muslim did.

3. "Cuckservative". Whatever its origins, I heard this word before I learned about point 2 above. I thought it was a perfect description of Republicans who roll over for Democrats at every opportunity, and routinely vote to approve leftist judges because they want to be "collegial". In this context I think it could be a useful term politically and not racially. It is certainly apt for the type of Republicans who want to go along to get along.
Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

Yes, you've said what I tried to say earlier, but you said it better.

Example: Let's help the Dems bail out Puerto Rico - Puerto Rico, which is 99.9 percent Democrat. We wouldn't want to look like big racist meanies after all!

The GOPe pisses it's pants over being called racist and mean and no matter what they do, they get call racist and mean.

More and more, I'm thinking Duyba's "compassionate conservativism" was poison, because it showed he accepted the leftist characterization of conservativism.

To the country as a whole, compassionate conservativism sounded like Fredo saying he was really smart, not dumb at all.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (P8951)

655 648 Up Next - Is the word "is" racist?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:42 PM (P/kVC)

Depends who says it. If white, then yes.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)

656 Trump would have avoided this whole mess if he had simply said something like the following:

Any judge that belongs to an organization with the Spanish words "La Raza" in its name, which means, "The Race", could very well rule against anyone who was not of "la Raza".

Posted by: Reno_Dave at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (YEhNg)

657 Eli Wallach will always be a dirty, opportunistic, double-talkin' Mexican in my book

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 10, 2016 08:44 PM (dBmVV)

658 I just saw Ace's cuck rampage in the side bar.
Folks, I WAS on Twitter and a number of openly racist white supremacists were using cuck like he says. He's not wrong.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Playing With Dynamite at June 10, 2016 08:44 PM (hVdx9)

659 granddad love

That should be granddads "love", etc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 10, 2016 08:39 PM (rmw+9)

First capital murder, now Grampa porn?

You sure live an interesting life.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 08:44 PM (pZe82)

660 I'm still pissed at the homo lobby for ruining the word "gay" and co-opting the rainbow.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)
=================================================

I know. How are we supposed to sing the Flinstone's song"

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (dFi94)

661 >>>>Eli Wallach will always be a dirty, opportunistic, double-talkin' Mexican in my book<<<<

And we love him for it.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (tEDMc)

662 How about a thread on music in movies? From the lush romanticism of Miklos Rosza to the chilly electronic classicism of Wendy Carlos, there's lots to discuss.
Or best soundtracks. Whatever. As long as there's less Nazi in it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (jR7Wy)

663
I only felt one, but there were 600 aftershocks since this morning EQ in SoCal.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (iQIUe)

664 I wish someone would tell me when Mexicans became a
race. Trump's remark could be called disparaging but not racist. I am
sick of the misuse of the word.

Posted by: jazzuscounty at June 10, 2016 08:29 PM (iRHb1)

La Raza says they are The Race.... at least that is what it means in their native language.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (P/kVC)

665 You sure live an interesting life.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2016 08:44 PM (pZe82)
=======================================

You gotta sleep with one eye open when there's Clergy around.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:46 PM (dFi94)

666 662 How about a thread on music in movies? From the lush romanticism of Miklos Rosza to the chilly electronic classicism of Wendy Carlos, there's lots to discuss.
Or best soundtracks. Whatever. As long as there's less Nazi in it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (jR7Wy)

So Wagner is right out then?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:46 PM (0mRoj)

667 There are 88 keys on a piano. Clearly the piano was invented by Neo-Nazis.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 08:46 PM (sdi6R)

668 La Raza says they are The Race.... at least that is what it means in their native language.

Posted by: Burnt Toast
*****

yes, but if you google La Raza you find all kinds of businesses with that name in CA. La Raza Dry Cleaners, La Raza Car Wash....

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 08:47 PM (hVdx9)

669 Any judge that belongs to an organization with the
Spanish words "La Raza" in its name, which means, "The Race", could very
well rule against anyone who was not of "la Raza".

Posted by: Reno_Dave at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (YEhNg)

Yeah. Had he said something like that, the media would have called him racist. Had he pointed out that the sky is blue, and shit is brown, he would have been called racist. Had he said nothing at all, they would have dug someone up that would claim that Trump is racist.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 10, 2016 08:47 PM (Rki1x)

670 There are 88 keys on a piano. Clearly the piano was invented by Neo-Nazis.
============================================

Maybe that's why the guy who moves pianos for a living uses the number 88.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:47 PM (dFi94)

671 662
How about a thread on music in movies? From the lush romanticism of
Miklos Rosza to the chilly electronic classicism of Wendy Carlos,
there's lots to discuss.

Or best soundtracks. Whatever. As long as there's less Nazi in it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:45 PM (jR7Wy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmYIo7bcUw

Posted by: Zero at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (h67G1)

672 Hah! I got Comment of the Beast!

\m/ \m/

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (0mRoj)

673 So Wagner is right out then?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:46 PM (0mRoj)
---
Here's where I plug the conversion scene in "Mahler" once again. Such Fascissimo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYcdInx5LnM

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (jR7Wy)

674 So what can we determine based on this?

That the GOPe "accepts the premise", to use Newt's formulation.

Posted by: t-bird at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (eeTCA)

675 It's movie that I can't turn off if I see it on, my favorite soundtrack ever. Something about the look & feel of the movie and unique sounds of Morricone's music take me right back to the first time I stayed up late w/ the old man and watched it.

Love it

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (dBmVV)

676
Executive Summary

Whatever the left defines as Racist/Sexist/Abelist/Cisist/TBDist is just that, and all good Totes Conservative should agree.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (kdS6q)

677 La Raza says they are The Race.... at least that is what it means in their native language.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Spanish?......ummmmm white Euros.....Rayciss!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (ej1L0)

678 Hitler drove an Oldsmobile 88.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (IqV8l)

679 Trump would have avoided this whole mess if he had simply said something like the following:

====

i keep seeing that and i think it's wrong. just would've been a tar baby.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (Cq0oW)

680 Zero at 8:48

You're a stinker.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:49 PM (dFi94)

681 Trump shouldn't have said anything. That's why he has lawyers.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 08:49 PM (MNgU2)

682 Pet Thread tomorrow!

Ok this is a little funny - my wife is hosting a baby shower for one of her best friends. The baby's name is/will be Katherine. I picked up the baby shower cake this evening and they spelled it Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:50 PM (e3bId)

683 613 Because you're right. Nobody will remember Trump criticizing a judge four months from now. So no one will remember the context. So they'll show a parade of Hispanic looking and sounding people talking about the business they built...He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall. Or won a silver star serving in Afghanistan...He's a Mexican. I'm going to build a wall.

And it's going to be played over and over and over."

Maybe Trump can show the gay Hispanic guy who was beaten up by SJWs while the cops watched because he had political beliefs they don't like.

Maybe he can also show those mobs waving Mexican flags, burning US ones and holding signs saying "Make America Mexico."

It's called fighting back....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:50 PM (P8951)

684 Ok this is a little funny - my wife is hosting a baby shower for one of her best friends. The baby's name is/will be Katherine. I picked up the baby shower cake this evening and they spelled it Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel
*****

Jaysus-f'n-Christ...

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 08:51 PM (hVdx9)

685 I picked up the baby shower cake this evening and they spelled it Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:50 PM (e3bId)
=================================================

Clearly oh so wrong.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:51 PM (dFi94)

686
Executive Summary - Addendum

If we just agree with the Left enough, we'll be popular.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2016 08:52 PM (kdS6q)

687 Ace, there is one more way to take it:

3. The GOP establishment privately agrees that the statement is not racist but believes that politics demands that it publicly be called down as racist, probably in order to save what the GOP elite considers to be its future (panders to Hispanic voters, for instance). The GOP elite may understand that the comments themselves are not really racist per se, but think that the broader public will take them as racist, and so will want to publicly condemn them in order to not be seen as racist by the public.
I tend to think that its really a mixture of 2 and 3. The GOP elite considers comments like this to be boorish and out of taste, especially publicly. They are also scared shitless that Hispanics are going to move to vote Democrat on the same level as blacks (and vote as a block for Democrats for decades like blacks do). They really don't know how to appeal to Hispanics generally, so they think these weak panders work when they really don't. The GOP as an organization can take several subsequent electoral losses. What they cannot take is a move to permanent minority status. The whole 2012 autopsy makes sense both as a pander to the GOP donor class and to this scared line of thinking that without explicit courtship and panders to illegals, Hispanics will simply become Democrats and, over time, overrun shrinking GOP demographics.

Posted by: Revenant at June 10, 2016 08:52 PM (y64uP)

688 The baby's name is/will be Katherine.

A lovely name and it's a nice change to hear of a young couple who doesn't feel the need to come up with some bizarre "creative" name these days.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:52 PM (P8951)

689 Posted by: Zero at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (h67G1)

----
Who doesn't love a Nazi kickline?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:52 PM (jR7Wy)

690 684 I'm still laughing four hours later. The lovely WeaselWoman is not amused, but the thing is tomorrow - so she's rolling with Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:53 PM (e3bId)

691 88 was nazi post war graffitti in germany.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 08:41 PM (iQIUe)
Did they do it with the Kilroy art?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:53 PM (P/kVC)

692 Hitler flew in a JU-88

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:53 PM (d9qXV)

693 Allow me to out my Twitter self. I used the avatar of a Star Wars storm trooper grabbing his junk and head banging while he has is right hand in the air.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 08:53 PM (hVdx9)

694 Nonsmo King

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 10, 2016 08:53 PM (dBmVV)

695
It's NASCAR and Jarrett is white. He's obviously a RACIST1!!!! Ace himself has declared that the symbol 88 is so ubiquitous a racist symbol that of course a white male NASCAR driver knew what he was doing. He should post Dale Jarrett's photo in the side bar with some snarky comment.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 08:31 PM (di/ST)

Ace didn't say that. I wish people would read more carefully. 88 (and 14, the other one) are NOT ubiquitously used as nazi symbols. I have a Spurs jersey that's number 14. No one thinks it's Nazi. But if you see someone who appears to using 1488, 88, etc as a code or secret symbol, that's what it means. That's useful information. it doesn't mean you can no longer use the number 14 and 88 for anything.

I'm surprised at the simplistic thinking here.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 08:54 PM (ozZau)

696 658 I just saw Ace's cuck rampage in the side bar.
Folks, I WAS on Twitter and a number of openly racist white supremacists were using cuck like he says. He's not wrong.

Never said he was. I'm not on twitter and don't keep up with the latest fads in awful post modern words. I thought 'cuckold' was some porny term. Didn't know there was more to it. Rather wish I didn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 10, 2016 08:54 PM (syGA0)

697 Yeah. Had he said something like that, the media
would have called him racist. Had he pointed out that the sky is blue,
and shit is brown, he would have been called racist. Had he said nothing
at all, they would have dug someone up that would claim that Trump is
racist.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 10, 2016 08:47 PM (Rki1x)
My point -- and I should have made it clearer -- was that Trump should have attacked the judge on his associations, not his heritage.
It would be much harder to make the case that he's being racist when he's saying that the judge belongs to a group that uses "La Raza" in its name as does the "National Council of La Raza", which believes that California is still part of Mexico, and then could have said that these are the same people that were attacking his supporters in San Jose while carrying Mexican flags and signs saying that CA belongs to Mexico.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at June 10, 2016 08:54 PM (YEhNg)

698

Tar baby is a racist term. Has been forever.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:54 PM (zOTsN)

699 Example: Let's help the Dems bail out Puerto Rico -
Puerto Rico, which is 99.9 percent Democrat. We wouldn't want to look
like big racist meanies after all!

...
Posted by: DonnaV (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (P8951)

PR is not being bailed out, their bond holders are.

Ask Romney-Ryan for details.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 08:55 PM (P/kVC)

700 Trump just needs to show ads with San Jose footage.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 10, 2016 08:56 PM (zOTsN)

701 I picked up the baby shower cake this evening and they spelled it Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:50 PM (e3bId)

I don't get it.

Posted by: wil.i.am at June 10, 2016 08:56 PM (HGtd0)

702 673 So Wagner is right out then?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:46 PM (0mRoj)
---
Here's where I plug the conversion scene in "Mahler" once again. Such Fascissimo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYcdInx5LnM
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (jR7Wy)

What. In. The. Hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:56 PM (0mRoj)

703 PR is not being bailed out, their bond holders are.

Ask Romney-Ryan for details.

----

Detroit School System is not being bailed out. Their bond holders are. Ask Snyder.

Detroit.... is still Detroit.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:57 PM (/H27A)

704 Herine is such a lovely name!

/snerk

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (Cq0oW)

705 George Straight music is good for whatever ails you. Just sayin'.

I want to dance with you - twirl you all around the floor - that's what they invented dancin for. I just want to dance with you.

Ok slightly tipsy

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (dFi94)

706 What. In. The. Hell.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:56 PM (0mRoj)
---
Ken Russell movies were always drugs-without-drugs experiences.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (jR7Wy)

707 688 the parents are a truly remarkable young couple who came here from St. Kitt with absolutely nothing, and through their own hard work are both very successful. She is an elementary school teacher and he is a hi tech mfg plant manager. We're the godparents of Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (e3bId)

708 "My point -- and I should have made it clearer -- was that Trump should
have attacked the judge on his associations, not his heritage."

In what way does publicly attacking the judge presiding over his private fraud suit help him defeat Hillary?

Why are people rationalizing this when they should be scolding him?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 08:59 PM (ktzHq)

709 Never said he was. I'm not on twitter and don't keep up with the latest fads in awful post modern words. I thought 'cuckold' was some porny term. Didn't know there was more to it. Rather wish I didn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum
****

If I hadn't been on Twitter I wouldn't have known it either. Guess Twitter was good for something after all.
It IS a porny term too. The white supremacists use it as a slur.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 08:59 PM (hVdx9)

710 A girl named Katherine at some point will be called Kat.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:59 PM (d9qXV)

711 Tar baby is a racist term. Has been forever

===

also more commonly a descriptor for an unwieldy situation. at least when I grew up. I'm aware it's called such now.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 09:00 PM (Cq0oW)

712 710 it's official now. It's on the cake!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:00 PM (e3bId)

713 We're the godparents of Kat Herine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (e3bId)
======================================

That's wonderful. God bless them all.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (dFi94)

714 Were this judge's parents Mexican citizens at the time of his birth? Is he a dual citizen of the US and Mexico? If the answer is yes did he decline or whatever it is called like Cruz did with his dual citizenship with Canada? None of this is clear nor being asked. If the judge is a dual citizen he is legally speaking a Mexican unless Mexico has adopted another name and designation for its citizens. That is not racist just like calling an Argentina citizen an Argentine or a Brazil citizen a Brazilian. And usually judges stop affiliations with ethnic, race or even political based organizations when they become judges to avoid the even the appearance of impartiality. This judge has not so it is on him to do so which he hasn't. So now this judge is being examined, which the Senate did not do when they approved him, and they don't like it. Too bad.

Posted by: Lester at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (2UPXV)

715 Asking for someone to assassinate Trump:

https://goo.gl/t0nEBZ

Let's see if twitter does anything.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (iQIUe)

716 Almost everyone is racist ,or tribal , if you will , in everything great and small .
It's only a question of degree .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (7Awbj)

717 I don no bout rasis but dat sucka sho be stiky.

Posted by: Brer Rabbit at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (BO/km)

718 could ask grammie i suppose.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (Cq0oW)

719 If I got it right the Judge's parents came from Mexico before he was born.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:03 PM (d9qXV)

720 713 thanks grammie!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:03 PM (e3bId)

721 705 George Straight music is good for whatever ails you. Just sayin'.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (dFi94)

Truer words have not been spoken.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:03 PM (ozZau)

722
A girl named Katherine at some point will be called Kat.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 08:59 PM (d9qXV)
==========================================

Maybe. But not always. My daughter has a name that can easily be shortened like that, and usually is. But I think if the parents and family members and teachers always call them by their full name, others tend to do so as well. I asked my daughter once time if her friends or anyone had ever called her by the shorter nic-name. She said not once ever.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 09:03 PM (dFi94)

723 In what way does publicly attacking the judge presiding over his private fraud suit help him defeat Hillary?

Why are people rationalizing this when they should be scolding him?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 08:59 PM (ktzHq

I agree with you that he shouldn't have done it at all, and as was written in an earlier post, should just let his lawyers handle it.
As it was, his comments about the judge blew the opportunity to exploit the attacks in San Jose.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at June 10, 2016 09:04 PM (YEhNg)

724 Most voters never heard of alt-right and don't care.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (e+dTU)

And who pays the "alt-right"? The Left of course. Moby operation through and through. And the left would do the same damn thing against Romney or McCain, if they were the candidate.

And, Damn! There are a lot of paid Never-Trumper trolls in here tonight. No wonder it smells like ass in here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2016 09:04 PM (GSdpU)

725 We have a cat heroin problem.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:05 PM (IqV8l)

726 Detroit School System is not being bailed out. Their bond holders are. Ask Snyder.

Detroit.... is still Detroit.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 10, 2016 08:57 PM (/H27A)

What could do in bankruptcy? Auction off the assets on e-bay?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 09:05 PM (P/kVC)

727 722 I have had a friend for about 30 years named Patricia, who generally goes by Tricia. I can instantly annoy her by calling her Pat. I reserve this for special occasions.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:05 PM (e3bId)

728 We have a cat heroin problem.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:05 PM (IqV8l)
==============================================

Catnip is a gateway drug.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 09:06 PM (dFi94)

729 Hey Zeus

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 10, 2016 09:06 PM (JO9+V)

730 724 Most voters never heard of alt-right and don't care.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 10, 2016 06:51 PM (e+dTU)

And who pays the "alt-right"? The Left of course. Moby operation through and through. And the left would do the same damn thing against Romney or McCain, if they were the candidate.

And, Damn! There are a lot of paid Never-Trumper trolls in here tonight. No wonder it smells like ass in here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2016 09:04 PM (GSdpU)

I have the same suspicion. I also had never heard of it at all until Wick Rilson started yelling and screaming about it, so maybe he's in on it too.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (0mRoj)

731 tornado sirens going off here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (ucDmr)

732 Nope, that's far too many words for the average voter with the attention span of a goldfish and understanding of the political situation involved with La Raza etc...

Easier, and even more effective to say exactly what he did.

Posted by: GMan at June 10, 2016 06:54 PM (JFwxz)

Exactly. And the damned judge basically identifies as Mexican, anyway. That's where his sympathies lie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (GSdpU)

733 H

Eighth letter of the alphabet.

88

HH

Heil schikelgruger.*

Some imagination required.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois When the burning times come. Don't forget the hotdogs!!! at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (WVsWD)

734 'We have a cat heroin problem.'

Merrowww!

Posted by: Catxoman at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (BO/km)

735 George Straight on the radio. George Gay at Midway.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

736 725 We have a cat heroin problem.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:05 PM (IqV8l)

How do they shoot up without opposable thumbs?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (0mRoj)

737 tornado sirens going off here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo
****
Duck and cover!
(so do not miss that sh*t)

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:08 PM (hVdx9)

738 Here's where I plug the conversion scene in "Mahler" once again. Such Fascissimo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYcdInx5LnM
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:48 PM (jR7Wy)

Well, that explains the last 8 years.

I've been living in -

Ken Russell's "Reality".

Here's what happened this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkPM4M6bnB4

Maybe I should stop drinking Peyote Coladas.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 09:08 PM (HGtd0)

739 honestly I believe the alt right are a largely independent thing but also very small/vocal like the militia types

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 09:08 PM (Cq0oW)

740 My tiny little dog plays with cat toys. It's a little embarrassing.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:08 PM (e3bId)

741 tornado sirens going off here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (ucDmr)
=============================================

Yikes chavez - take cover - be safe !!

Posted by: grammie winger at June 10, 2016 09:09 PM (dFi94)

742 The problem with condemning "cuck" is that regardless of who uses it, the coinage itself has nothing to do with racism. It's a perfectly legitimate parallel between a husband whose trust is betrayed, and a voter whose trust is betrayed. To condemn a word because of who uses it is like calling Charlie Chaplin a nazi, or Hitler a pedophile, merely because they had the same mustache.

Posted by: highly arugula at June 10, 2016 09:10 PM (QFhci)

743 My tiny little dog plays with cat toys. It's a little embarrassing.

Posted by: Weasel
****

Trans-species issue. Sorry Weasel.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:10 PM (hVdx9)

744 Maybe your dog self identifies as a cat, we think one of our cats self identities as a dog.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:10 PM (d9qXV)

745
My tiny little dog plays with cat toys. It's a little embarrassing.
Posted by: Weasel

Your dog can use the litter box at Target.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:11 PM (IqV8l)

746 The problem with condemning "cuck" is that regardless of who uses it, the coinage itself has nothing to do with racism. It's a perfectly legitimate parallel between a husband whose trust is betrayed, and a voter whose trust is betrayed. To condemn a word because of who uses it is like calling Charlie Chaplin a nazi, or Hitler a pedophile, merely because they had the same mustache.

Posted by: highly arugula
*****

Cram that BS up your ass. It has been proven otherwise.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:11 PM (hVdx9)

747 What exactly does "alt-right" mean? Serious question. I've seen the phrase but I've never heard a definition.

Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 09:11 PM (sdi6R)

748 743 yeah. I was afraid of that.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:11 PM (SMd3b)

749 'My tiny little dog plays with cat toys.'

Our dogs have a cat. Or the cat has them. I'm not sure. They are embarrassed by it though and will act like it is not so.

Posted by: freaked at June 10, 2016 09:12 PM (BO/km)

750 Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (ucDmr)
be safe

Posted by: thathalfrican - keeping people on their toes like they hate sittin' at June 10, 2016 09:12 PM (R5HRU)

751 741 tornado sirens going off here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (ucDmr)

take care, chavez!

It's warm and muggy here, and we're expecting storms. It's tornado weather all right.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 10, 2016 09:12 PM (P8951)

752 740 My tiny little dog plays with cat toys. It's a little embarrassing.
Posted by: Weasel

Do a search on "Bruce Jenner's cat". That will explain everything.

Posted by: highly arugula at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (QFhci)

753 I probably should've 'announced' on the pet thread.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (SMd3b)

754 Romney and Ryan want to run in 2020 according to some 'insider' republican close to them. Snort.

Posted by: IC at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (zK6nG)

755 It would be more embarrassing if your tiny little dog used a litter box.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (JO9+V)

756 I'm still pissed at the homo lobby for ruining the word "gay" and co-opting the rainbow.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 08:43 PM (0mRoj)
=================================================

I am too, but I'd never used the newish word "cuck" before, or even seen it before a few months ago, so I'm not crying much over that one.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (ozZau)

757 743 yeah. I was afraid of that.

Posted by: Weasel
****
The species conversion operation is as expensive as hell and a real bitch.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

758 rickl i attempted an overview earlier

what are you looking for?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 09:13 PM (Cq0oW)

759 I don't get no respect, I'll tell ya.

Posted by: Cookie Puss at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (Tyii7)

760 I'm surprised at the simplistic thinking here.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 08:54 PM (ozZau)

It was, I hope, obviously a sarcastic comment. I don't think most people know the racist nature of the number 88 anymore than the gang number 13. I think the comments claiming ignorance that followed support my point. 88 may very well be associated with the NAZI but that does not preclude it's usage. No matter how many NAZIs choose to use it. I'll bet you I can find 30 or 40 pictures of the number 88 used in a racist context, but does that mean it's racist to use the number 88 if I put them in the sidebar? You obviously don't think it does and that's my point. The same applies to the word cuck. I'm not going to let you and the racists that use the word in that specific manner take it anymore than I'm going to let NAZIs take the number 88.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (di/ST)

761 Maybe I should stop drinking Peyote Coladas.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 09:08 PM (HGtd0)
---
*hands roofie-colada to naturalfake*

Altered States freaked me out, man. Very trippy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (jR7Wy)

762 Couldn't you just use your finger to scrape off the upper right limb of the 'H' to convert it to an 'h' (lower case)?

Or is Herine on a separate line?

Bonus: you get to sample the quality of the frosting ahead of time.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (NeFrd)

763 747 What exactly does "alt-right" mean? Serious question. I've seen the phrase but I've never heard a definition.
Posted by: rickl at June 10, 2016 09:11 PM (sdi6R)

Sounds like a keyboard-based command from the old WordStar days.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (0mRoj)

764 It would be more embarrassing if your tiny little dog used a litter box.

Posted by: Count de Monet
*****

PSHAW!
I use our cat's litter boxes just to keep them off balance. Never. Trust. A. Cat.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (hVdx9)

765 Were this judge's parents Mexican citizens at the
time of his birth? Is he a dual citizen of the US and Mexico? If the
answer is yes did he decline or whatever it is called like Cruz did with
his dual citizenship with Canada?

...

Posted by: Lester at June 10, 2016 09:01 PM (2UPXV)
Only a racist would point out that Cruz was Canadian... even if true.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (P/kVC)

766
"It would be more embarrassing if your tiny little dog used a litter box."

Says the person who's never had to walk the dog in the rain or sleet or snow or 105� heat.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (ktzHq)

767 What about twinkie?

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (JO9+V)

768 What exactly does "alt-right" mean? Serious question.

I'm not exactly sure. I think it means fiscally conservative and socially so, but only drawing the line at about 2013 or so.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (39g3+)

769 I'm not going to let you and the racists that use the word in that specific manner take it anymore than I'm going to let NAZIs take the number 88.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (di/ST)

My man!

Posted by: Eric Lindros at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (7qAYi)

770 I don't watch much news (or read it) so I am a LIV by choice these days. And as one I am unconvinced that Trump made any kind of error in handling the judge / his court case.

The basic effect for me is that right now I think of the Trump U case as the case being handled by a Mexican judge. I'm guessing that's the effect on a lot of LIVs too.

The louder the Left squeals the better imo.

Was he surprised that the GOP used it as an excuse to start un- endorsing him -maybe, but he was probably expecting something like thT from them at some point, right?

Posted by: @votermom at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (7lVbc)

771 A leftist will tell you there are no "cat" toys or "dog" toys only toys. You should let your pet choose which toys they like and not force a identity on them.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (d9qXV)

772 *hands roofie-colada to naturalfake*

Mmmmm, drug flaaaaavvvvooooooooor....

*thud*

Posted by: naturalfake at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (HGtd0)

773 And, Damn! There are a lot of paid Never-Trumper trolls in here tonight. No wonder it smells like ass in here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2016 09:04 PM (GSdpU)

I have the same suspicion. I also had never heard of it at all until Wick Rilson started yelling and screaming about it, so maybe he's in on it too.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:07 PM (0mRoj)

ace is a paid troll?

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (ozZau)

774 762 Hell no! It's perfect the way it is! I just wish I'd thought of it!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (SMd3b)

775 What if your dog uses your cat's litter box for... snacks? Kitty Roca.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 10, 2016 09:17 PM (39g3+)

776 771 A leftist will tell you there are no "cat" toys or "dog" toys only toys. You should let your pet choose which toys they like and not force a identity on them.
Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (d9qXV)

Give a cat a rawhide bone. I'm sure it will be much appreciated.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:17 PM (0mRoj)

777 Sieg heil, bitches.

Posted by: Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin, and Dez Bryant at June 10, 2016 09:17 PM (ktzHq)

778 771 she's just confused! Don't judge us, bro!

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:17 PM (SMd3b)

779 Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:16 PM (ozZau)

I was talking about the alt-right part.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 10, 2016 09:17 PM (0mRoj)

780 Give a cat a rawhide bone. I'm sure it will be much appreciated.

Posted by: Insomniac
****

And it will show it's appreciation by pooping in your shoes.

Posted by: Brainless Twat Writing for Yahoo at June 10, 2016 09:18 PM (hVdx9)

781 Is the cat toy like a rat? That would be ok. If it's one of those feather things though...

Posted by: freaked at June 10, 2016 09:18 PM (BO/km)

782 There is a Nood, but we weren't informed as per the requirement.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:18 PM (d9qXV)

783 rickl

the Wikipedia entry might be a good starting point. also probably Mencius Moldbug, but look for his "gentle introduction" post

some of it is useful, a lot is eh. it is thought provoking if nothing else.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 10, 2016 09:19 PM (Cq0oW)

784 781 unfortunately, no. A cat nip stuffed banana.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:19 PM (SMd3b)

785 My cats like the feathered stick toys.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:19 PM (d9qXV)

786
It was, I hope, obviously a sarcastic comment. I don't think most people know the racist nature of the number 88 anymore than the gang number 13.

I can remember when 13 was a sign for marijuana.
The 13th letter being M for marijuana.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:19 PM (IqV8l)

787 I can remember when 13 was a sign for marijuana.
The 13th letter being M for marijuana.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:19 PM (IqV8l)

Hell, I remember when 13 was 10+3.

Boy, I have to get out of my shoebox more often.

Posted by: dDan at June 10, 2016 09:22 PM (hwYmz)

788 I'm not going to let you and the racists that use the word in that specific manner take it anymore than I'm going to let NAZIs take the number 88.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:14 PM (di/ST) that's great if yu want to take the word "cuck" back.

You can stand up for the word cuck all you want. Save the cuck! It's an inspiring cause for some. Personally, the word is new to me so I don't have any attachment to it.

No one is saying you can't use it. But it's useful to know who mostly uses it as their buzzword/catchphrase. As I said a couple times already, do with the information whatever you want.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:23 PM (ozZau)

789 I hope Weasel your dog doesn't have to play with other dogs in the neighborhood, they will be calling him a pussy, could lead to a lot of hardship down the road.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:23 PM (d9qXV)

790 What exactly does "alt-right" mean? Serious question.

I'm not exactly sure. I think it means fiscally conservative and socially so, but only drawing the line at about 2013 or so.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 10, 2016 09:15 PM (39g3+)

The alt right came out of the PUA and MRA movements. It's mostly white and it's mostly male. It has a racist component sure, but then so does the GOP. There are certain principles and strategies that it values that the right seems to have no concept of like frame. They think conservatives have been completely ineffective, and have little respect for them, and they often show a lot of contempt for the conservative movement. I talked about that in an earlier comment. That's a quick dirty overview of the alt right.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:23 PM (di/ST)

791 that's great if yu want to take the word "cuck" back.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:23 PM (ozZau)

We're not taking it back. It is our creation, but we are going to resist, with great effort, your attempts to define it and us.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:25 PM (di/ST)

792
I hope Weasel your dog doesn't have to play with other dogs in the neighborhood, they will be calling him a pussy, could lead to a lot of hardship down the road.
Posted by: Skip

A dog named Sue.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:26 PM (IqV8l)

793 It has a racist component sure, but then so does the GOP.

All I read here was "herpty derp derpity doo!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 10, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

794 And, this conversation is beyond stale, but the word cuckold is related to cuckoo, the old world cuckoo that lays its eggs in the nests of other species for them to raise.

New world cuckoos don't do that but cowbirds do.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:28 PM (ozZau)

795 Who is going to buy Gawker? Has it any worth? The name and brand is trash. The employees are aholes. So, what do they have to sell? Office space and some office equipment?

I have this vague recollection of Gawker trying to out another high profile gay figure but I cant remember who it was. I guess Denton justifies it in his creepy mind that gay people shd all be out. I think he is self serving and his sole goal in outing them is for $$$$$.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 10, 2016 07:19 PM (iQIUe)

If I buy Gawker, do I get to euthanize all the Leftard employees?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 10, 2016 09:29 PM (GSdpU)

796 793
It has a racist component sure, but then so does the GOP.

All I read here was "herpty derp derpity doo!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 10, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

This is why the alt right will win, you can't stomach the truth. Ace even said it earlier. The GOP has a racist component. Why are you frightened of that. You can't help it if racists agree with you on certain things, and desire to hook their wagon to your movement. An adult should be able to understand such nuance, and thus understand that doesn't make the GOP racist. The fact that you're too scared to acknowledge that simply makes you grist for their racist propaganda mill. You buy into their reality, and so you automatically lose. You might be a cuck if you deny there are racists in your movement.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:32 PM (di/ST)

797 Please forgive me if someone else brought this up. Making dinner takes precedence over reading hundreds of comments. If a judge's background does not matter, and has no impact on his opinions or decisions, if merely the fact that he/she is a judge means that they are a higher and impartial being, and questioning their judgment is racist and forbidden: Why is everyone, both left and right, salivating over which political party is in charge of picking the supreme court justices? If they are impartial, it shouldn't matter. More hypocrisy and bullshit from our political masters.

Posted by: Chellep at June 10, 2016 09:32 PM (qjs3L)

798 We're not taking it back. It is our creation, but we are going to resist, with great effort, your attempts to define it and us.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:25 PM (di/ST)

Oh, sorry, I didn't know you all created it. Well take it back then.

To start with, I suggest you talk to ace about his sidebar post. Get him to take it down if it's that important.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:33 PM (ozZau)

799 Yogi Berra had a little something something about theory and practice. God bless him. Things that are true cannot be subverted.
Nope.

Posted by: micky at June 10, 2016 09:34 PM (o5vMc)

800 Cowbird!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 10, 2016 09:35 PM (IqV8l)

801 789 actually she's kind of a 10# badass when it comes to other dogs in the 'hood.

Posted by: Weasel at June 10, 2016 09:35 PM (e3bId)

802 Well it's done now - the word "cuck" is and will be forever regarded as racists. Even tho it generally isn't being used in a racist manner. Ace and the fucking cuck PC police have assured that.

Posted by: Ami at June 10, 2016 09:35 PM (i8Shl)

803 Fireworks going off not far from me, don't know why.

Posted by: Skip at June 10, 2016 09:39 PM (d9qXV)

804
To start with, I suggest you talk to ace about his sidebar post. Get him to take it down if it's that important.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 09:33 PM (ozZau)

So you're going to give me advice about how to take this word back even though you've spent the entire thread writing about how we've created this definition? You are bossy.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:40 PM (di/ST)

805 Why do all these neo-Nazis keep usurping my cuck?

Posted by: Future third funniest Onion feature of all time at June 10, 2016 09:41 PM (ktzHq)

806 805
Why do all these neo-Nazis keep usurping my cuck?

Posted by: Future third funniest Onion feature of all time at June 10, 2016 09:41 PM (ktzHq)
Because you let them, but then again isn't that what conservatives are really good at? Surrender.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:43 PM (di/ST)

807 Ken Russell movies were always drugs-without-drugs experiences.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 10, 2016 08:58 PM (jR7Wy)

GOTHIC is one of my all-time favorites (though I might be the only one who feels this way); at least twice a year I still get drunk and watch it (the first time was sober).

Posted by: lowtech redneck at June 10, 2016 09:51 PM (KF8B+)

808 Guys your invading my safe space! Please please do not use the work 'cuckservative' you haterz!

Posted by: Ace: Leader of the Cucks at June 10, 2016 09:56 PM (DEJix)

809 Anybody interested in visiting some of the leading sites of the alt right should go to dalrock.com. I think that site would serve very well for most commenters here as an intro to the alt right. If you want to feel vindicated in your racist suspicions then head over to heartiste at https://heartiste.wordpress.com and indulge in some self righteous chest puffery. It has the racism you've been looking for. Visiting those two sites will show you the diversity of thought encompassed by the alt right.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 10:05 PM (di/ST)

810 So you're going to give me advice about how to take this word back even though you've spent the entire thread writing about how we've created this definition? You are bossy.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 10, 2016 09:40 PM (di/ST)

I think it's good advice. You can do with it what you wish. I don't care. If it's that important to you though, it makes sense to ask to get it taken it off the sidebar. This is an influential blog. It's a good place to start.

Posted by: stace at June 10, 2016 10:05 PM (ozZau)

811 Since everyone is in such a tizzy over the term "cuckservative", I suggest you take a gander at the book of the same name by Vox Day and John Red Eagle, two Native Americans. Then if you would, please engage Day on Twitter. I'm bored and I want to see the result. Thank you.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 10, 2016 10:10 PM (zBwYh)

812 DFCtomm owns this thread. To hell with the Vichy GOPes.

Posted by: Ami at June 10, 2016 10:12 PM (i8Shl)

813 Posted by: Ami at June 10, 2016 10:12 PM (i8Shl)

Why don't you cuckold each other.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 10:20 PM (MNgU2)

814 The judge is a member of a group that helps people break the law. No, I mean la Raza, not just the Democrat Party. Or the federal bench.

How is that even proper?

Was it racist when violent mobs of latinos were assaulting white Trump supporters? Cos it kinda seemed like it.

If the players were reversed, that mayor would be looking at charges and the police dept. would be under a consent decree from Justice.

Our universities teach that nothing matters but race--and then freak out when Trump agrees?

Screw them. I don't care what they think. The Establishment are just trying to gin up a Romney Solution or something. They need to to help Trump, not sabotage him. Not because of Trump, but because this country is circling the drain.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 10, 2016 10:22 PM (Ndje9)

815 "Cuckservative" derives from the Cuckoo bird, that tricks other birds into raising its young by putting its eggs in other nests. That in turn became cuckolding, which is a man tricked into raising another man's kids, because the wife be steppin' out. As anyone with a passing familiarity with porn can tell ya, Black on White cuckold is a "thing" these days. Is that type of film racist?

But I digress - my understanding is that "cuckservative" stems from the failure of race neutrality. See, race neutrality was supposed to be a good thing, where you judge a person by character, not race. Where race isn't a factor.

So whites, being the majority, voluntarily adopted or were forced/brainwashed into this practice. Seemed like a good idea, seems fair and just, so why not?

So whites spent effort to include more "minorities" into a given field (law, media, music, sports, education, etc.). But then as more minorities became members of that field, they began to abandon the race neutrality as they gained numbers, and began to influence that given field to leverage more power and benefits for their own. You see this ALL DAY LONG with the Left. You see this all day long on campus. Blacks and Hispanics get the hook up, whites and Asians the shaft. For example, Clarence Thomas is a "race traitor" because now that he's on the SCOTUS, he's not using his position to benefit blacks at the expense of whites or other races. He's one of those idealistic idiots that still clings to "race neutrality" and "equal protection". And you can see, he's outnumbered.

So you begin to realize that certain minorities are absolutely looking out for their own tribe, their own kind, their own kin. Pick one - blacks, Jews, Latinos, etc. Wrapped up in ___ Pride, or in ____ solidarity, it's approved and lauded. Bravo!

But what about whitey? He/she still clings to the race neutrality mantra, while the other races look out for their own. Now obviously there are exceptions to every rule, and not all members of a race think or act alike. But if it comes down to race, as the Left always frames the issue, you best side with your own, or else you are selling your own out. It's not nice, it's not "polite" or "PC", but it's life - if you are going to give a benefit or apply a burden based on race as a rule, then I have every right to consolidate my power and interest behind my race.

Don't brow beat me to watch my language. Don't harp on me to not be "racist" while letting, say, Samuel L. Jackson state he voted for Obama soley due to race, then give him $$$$ by attending his movies. Shame him out of a career like you would me.

Hence, the "cuckservative" label in the race context - if we acknowledge that there are identity politics at play, and other races gaining power based on it (La Raza, NAACP anyone), then any white person that supports "race neutrality" is selling out their own interest or tribe because not all "tribes" are playing by those rules. Period. "Race neutrality" only works if all are playing the same game - otherwise, the one playing (whitey) is purposefully disadvantaging his "tribe" by hooking up another.

Apply the same to religion, or nationality. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 10, 2016 10:33 PM (zBwYh)

816 " 35
The judge comment didn't happen in a vacuum. Trump had already
established that he was pandering to white tribalism. Just because the
other side does it doesn't mean it's right -- and we call them on it
too, as do you Ace."

Oh my. Only white 'tribalists' want jobs? That's flat-out bigotry with, dare I say it, a hint of racism. What those who don't yet understand Trump-Speak don't get is that he has no plans to 'pander' to non-whites because we are all Americans and basically want the same things for ourselves and our children.

You geniuses just haven't figure that out yet.

Posted by: MaggiePoo at June 10, 2016 11:22 PM (kcQIp)

817 815 Good analysis but you're missing something. It's the elites and the activists who are behaving in ways to only advantage their 'tribes'. Not necessarily the working class. The narrative is changing out in the country, just not in the media/political elite/chattering classes.

Posted by: MaggiePoo at June 10, 2016 11:28 PM (kcQIp)

818 "gossamer thrones of cloudwisp and starshine" Ok, I'm making a note of this so's I can use/steal it for later. (not really) Also, glad you made the distinction between "intellectuals" and "idealogues."

Posted by: sinalco at June 11, 2016 03:11 AM (yODqO)

819 Why don't you cuckold each other.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 10, 2016 10:20 PM (MNgU2)

Conan should have included the ineffectual whining of one's enemies in his the best things in life monologue.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 11, 2016 05:48 AM (di/ST)

820 This is one of those things where opinion has nothing to do with it. Either it's racist, or it's not. Its like taking a poll and asking if you think someone is pregnant. This, in fact, was a racist statement. No question about it. Whether or not you care, that's another story altogether.

Posted by: rexbatt at June 11, 2016 07:54 AM (woA40)

821 That simply means that half of America is to stupid to be allowed to enjoy the freedoms of America. The judge is a racist scumbag who associates with racist scumbags, but no one else noticed? Pathetic.

Posted by: Frank Tauss at June 11, 2016 09:18 AM (L1Iod)

822 All the polls are now showing Trump fading badly. If he's behind consistently by 6 pts or so, there is no reason the GOP should not dump him at the convention. I'll vote for him, but he has zero organization or fundraising apparatus in place. The more the campaign goes on, the more I'm tending to agree with those who say either he didn't plan on winning the nomination and was just doing this to get second or third and get some publicity, or he really is a Dem plant and trying to get Hillary elected.

Posted by: beegs at June 11, 2016 09:20 AM (cxyn3)

823 Wrong.

Posted by: Jyon Jyonson from Wi. at June 11, 2016 09:45 AM (i8Shl)

824 Claiming that "cuck" is categorically a "racist" term is like claiming the Confederate flag is categorically a "racist" symbol (except probably dumber). It is but another example of PC word policing and taboo manufacturing. These sidebar links make no point whatsoever. The swastika is usually associated with Nazism. It is also a symbol used in the Dharmic religions (albeit generally with a different axial tilt). Does that mean the Dharmic religious are racist or that they should stop using the symbol? Please.

Not that I want to insert any unwanted ambiguity into anyone's narrative, but I think we could use a healthy dose of nuance here. Here are a list of groups who use the term "cuck":

Alt-right White identitarians
Hotep Black identitarians
#GamerGaters
Porn folk
Trumpists
Milo Yiannopoulos fans (and Milo himself)
Mike Cernovich fans (and Mike Cernovich himself)
Mercedes Carrera fans (and Mercedes herself)

If you're only seeing it used by "White racists," well, it's probably time to diversify your follow list.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 11, 2016 02:51 PM (SDJ79)

825 Yes. Well said. That closes the thread. Everyone now agrees Ace should take down the multiple "cuck" links on the sidebar and refrain from exclusively assigning racist intent to the word. As Anti Antifa states, "It is but another example of PC word policing and taboo manufacturing."

Posted by: Jyon Jyonson from Wi. at June 11, 2016 05:47 PM (i8Shl)

826 Makes sense. We know that at least half the people are stupid. I'll leave it at that. As for the Donald, he seemed to walk it back somewhat, saying he was not implying the judge absolutely can't be fair (though he actually did say that - that he had a conflict of interest because of his heritage- that would preclude him from being unbiased) and promised to not talk about it anymore. Good luck with that! I don't believe this about being elitist or Establishment Republican or hating on Trump. I think it is seeing the difference between pointing or kvetching about bias personally by anyone vs someone in authority (potentially, for now) trying to intimidate the judicial branch, based on nothing but subjective data.

Posted by: Jules at June 11, 2016 06:47 PM (WgCQF)

827 822
All the polls are now showing Trump fading badly. If he's behind
consistently by 6 pts or so, there is no reason the GOP should not dump
him at the convention.

Posted by: beegs at June 11, 2016 09:20 AM (cxyn3)

Except for the voters and those pesky rules. You really don't get what the bedrock of civilization actually is do you? It's faith. We have faith that those little slips of paper actually mean something and that's the only reason money works. Our world falls apart without faith, but you, the genius that you are, openly advocates for the destruction of that faith, and no I'm not saying the world falls apart if the GOP does this, but it's just one more Jenga block that you want to remove. Look at the world we live in, how many of those do you think are left?

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 11, 2016 07:13 PM (frUTZ)

828 826: Yes. Half the people are stupid.

Posted by: jyon yjonson at June 12, 2016 12:29 AM (i8Shl)

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