Sean Trende: The Groupthink of Rightist Commentary Has Become Unbearable and Frightening Lately

Actually he makes this point of all the different camps of political thought, but the other camps aren't my problem.

The right is.

Or was. I'm not sure it's my problem, either, any longer.

This is why I began trolling the "righties" on twitter: because they'd lost their damned minds and had begun quavering with Holy Horror like the most microaggressed campus Adult Baby SJWs.

The beauty of Twitter and aggregators is that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
But that's the good news. Let’s turn to the bad.
To be blunt, everyone has lost their damned minds lately. Twitter, and commentary in general, has become a giant echo chamber. My Twitter feed has devolved into a melange of undifferentiated opinions explaining not only why Donald Trump shouldn’t win this election, but also how and why it can't possibly happen. I don't just mean an overall take that he's likely to lose. I mean a complete and utter rejection of any evidence proffered that might point in a direction that is favorable to Trump. Oh, and by the way, he might also be the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse.

By the way: I agree he will almost certainly lose. But that doesn't mean people should start throwing garlic and holy water at those who suggest otherwise.

Nor does it mean the entire "right-leaning" commentariat should embrace the worst kind of Political Correctness Outrage Brigadeering to advance their political agenda and puff up their own Virtue Reserves.

This isn't just unfortunate. It's dangerous. I'm not worried about media influencing the election; media has less influence than it (and its critics) believe. I'm talking about pundits' credibility. If the entire chattering class finds itself in the grips of a massive epistemic closure, if every bit of analysis is actually nothing more than a conclusion in search of an argument, if all we hear (as in the old apocryphal Pauline Kael story) are the voices of other people telling us that Trump is awful and that he can't possibly win, then we’re like pilots flying without instruments. Maybe we’ll land safely, but the chances of a crash are much larger. Having just witnessed (and to some degree, participated in) just such a crash in the Republican primaries, I'm particularly on edge about this general election.

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Now we’re getting to the nut of the problem. One of the Internet's flaws has always been that for all its diversity, it is unrepresentative in important ways. Even left-leaning blogs and websites have tended to be disproportionately white. It's an ongoing topic of conversation and source of controversy on these sites.
What makes this cycle so tricky is that the re-emergence of strong class and cultural divides in the election has brought new cleavages to the fore, which are likewise underrepresented among commentators. Not only do you have a whole lot of white folk on Twitter, but you have a whole lot of white professionals with college degrees, disproportionately granted from elite universities. Most of them live in cities and neighborhoods dominated by white professionals with college degrees, disproportionately granted from elite universities, and go to workplaces with similar makeups. Somehow, the pundits look even less like America this cycle than in the past.
I believe that most people in my Twitter feed, left and right, don't know many genuine Trump supporters, if any.

I think much of the grassroots of the right would be shocked to turn to see that their alleged thought-leaders are no longer attempting to push back against political correctness, but impose it every bit as vindictively and self-servingly as the Permissible Opinion Patrol brigades of the left.

The people already have a group of smug people with good grades but little experience in real-world achievement to bully them and call them bigots: we call this "the left."

I don't think they're shopping for a new group of smug, over-educated-but-under-accomplished bullies to hector them at every turn.

Meanwhile, not to speak of Unspeakable Unmentionables, but we're a week out from law-abiding citizens being attacked in wolf-pack-style attacks -- first separating them from their fellows, putting them into flight, then attacking them as they run -- and the police stood by and watched because the Mayor thinks Trump supporters deserve this.

In fact, some "right-leaning" commentators have expressed agreement with the mayor: they did deserve it. They're Unpeople of Jesusland.

The rest of the right seems happy to not talk about this.

I have long accused the left of selectively ignoring major stories which damage their narrative.

I am now witnessing the right media doing the exact same thing -- because Trump voters, while nominally "on the right," really aren't their sort of people.

Ergo, they sat on their hands about the story, largely, and continue to natter about Trump's comments about Judge Curiel.

Just like the left.

And for the exact same reasons: A sense of class-based distaste for the people under assault, and a realization that this story harms their preferred narratives.

Self-Segregation Breeds Stupidity in Micro Monocultures: A commenter writes:

I don't think there is a lack of diversity of thought, it's that we segregate into groups where there is conformity of thought. Then we burn the witches.

Yes, in any clutch of like-minded people, shared assumptions quickly become Unquestionable Dogmas, and a social-signalling competition arises, where each person's value vis-a-vis the other members of the group is established by how thoroughly he agrees with the koine of the microculture.

Then what happens is that male competition begins within the microculture, with each new would-be alpha leader of the pack showing his fitness to lead by offering an even more strident and dogmatic -- less nuanced and less caveated -- restatement of the cult dogma, until the competition simply devolves into "who can shout the most extreme version of this stupid cult creed that no one thought about for more than two minutes before accepting as God's Transmitted Truth"?

It happens in every inbred pool of thinkers. You won't have leftists in a group talking for more than three hours before someone decides to play the High Trump Card and declare, "I agree with this dogma so much we should plant bombs in the buildings of our enemies who deny it!!!"

No, the right isn't that far yet. Not quite. But they're definitely in the Raving and Casting Out the Disbelievers phase.

Genetically homogenous thought-lines, unmixed with any genes of thought from outside the family, eventually become inbred, deformed, retarded, and monstrous.

Posted by: Ace at 02:05 PM

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1 Ah, something new...

Posted by: HH at June 09, 2016 02:06 PM (DrCtv)

2 Short version.. We're screwed...

Posted by: donna at June 09, 2016 02:07 PM (O2RFr)

3 Ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:09 PM (zp+j1)

4 REPENT!! REPENT!!! THE END IS NIGH!!!!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at June 09, 2016 02:09 PM (xVgrA)

5 I guess I should go read the post since I lost on first!!

Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:09 PM (6IPEM)

6 so nominating Trump means the death of conservatism, but nominating Romney and McCain didn't?

Posted by: mallflower Rodham Clinton at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (qSIlh)

7 One of the Internet's flaws has always been that for all its diversity, it is unrepresentative in important ways. Even left-leaning blogs and websites have tended to be disproportionately white.

Because, as we all know, "diversity" consists exclusively of skin color. Not ideology, not nationality, not religion, not gender, but melanin content. ONLY that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

8 I gotta be honest, sometimes I have not idea what Ace is getting at.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (zp+j1)

9 6 so nominating Trump means the death of conservatism, but nominating Romney and McCain didn't?

It's dead Jim...

Posted by: donna at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (O2RFr)

10 *click*
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Damn. I think something's wrong with the gun.

Posted by: A GOPe Russian Roulette Party at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (8ZskC)

11 Ironic, don't ya think.

Posted by: Alanis at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (r73Jl)

12 cultural divides in the election has brought new cleavages to the fore,

You aren't kidding. That Christina Aguilera sure has nice knockers

Posted by: Hillary! Ready for Her! at June 09, 2016 02:12 PM (BJP8X)

13 I think we are collectively going insane.

Posted by: Max Power at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (q177U)

14 Great post, Ace

Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (6IPEM)

15 I know far more conservatives and Republicans who will not vote for Trump than will. But I get that. I run in circles that are completely different from Trump's main base of support. Funny thing is my circle crosses the path of a lot of liberals and democrats too. And very few are all that excited about voting for Hillary. Ultimately, I think most will, but not happily. Then I look at the Trump rallies. I see how people are really excited about voting for Trump. It leads me to believe that Trump can win. But I do worry that he will lose more than he will gain, or those losses will not be able to overcome the natural advantage the Dems start with. Of course, I didn't think he would win the nomination either.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (gmeXX)

16 We can keep going round and round on this,opinions aren't going to change.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (B48dK)

17 "The amount of white people is too damn high!"

Posted by: Max Power at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (q177U)

18 I could do with fewer histrionics. I've seen people claim in the comments here that Hillary is going to round conservatives up and put us FEMA camps. And I've seen comments in other forums declaring that Trump is America's Mussulini.

Hyperbole loses its impact after a while. And if these weren't meant as hyperbole, then, Good Lord, people.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (O7MnT)

19 So obama heartily endorsed Hillary! and is campaigning with her next week.. Yeah She's gonna get indicted...

Posted by: donna at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (O2RFr)

20 Which came first, Trump or the groupthink?

I understand that it is much, much worse now - but wasn't the whole inside-the-beltway groupthink on the right the reason people were so attracted to Trump? Many of these same people were tut-tutting the masses over concern with Obama's open borders, Obamacare (egads, those tea-baggers!), etc.

It's been building for years: have we *now*, finally reached peak GOPe groupthink?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (NOIQH)

21 "cultural divides in the election has brought new cleavages to the fore"

That chick from the AT&T commercials makes he horny. Hic.

Posted by: Grandma Hillary at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (OD2ni)

22 have long accused the left of selectively ignoring major stories which damage their narrative.

I am now witnessing the right media doing the exact same thing -- because Trump voters, while nominally "on the right," really aren't their sort of people.

Ergo, they sat on their hands about the story,

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Which, you know, keep it up. We'll bring the story to you.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (Yjjjf)

23 Hillary, after all, is the Establishment's candidate.

Because the Spice Must Flow.

Posted by: mrp at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM (JBggj)

24 Isn't Curiel some kind of hand lotion?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (IqV8l)

25 It's all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Ti at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (uyrlv)

26 Right, left, middle, hipster fonzie... Everyone has devolved into seventh grade girls.

It's like Idiocracy, but so much more insufferable.

Posted by: wooga at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (BJP8X)

27 It is an intriguing thought, spawned of this post and other of ace's meditations, fecundated by my own dark musings, and birthed on the gin-soaked bed that is my brain, that the next civil war is already under way, only in slow-motion, and, what is more, it's not political - it's class vs class, ethnicity vs ethnicity, and therefore, measure for measure, far nastier than anything I'd come to expect.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (lutOX)

28 The latest polls don't bear out that he will "certainly lose". And Scankles is losing a lot of her support. The Indiana exit polls said 1/3 of the Krazy Kommie backers would sit this one out if Scankles got the nomination.

True a lot of Republicans say they will sit this one out too, bit hose are national polls. The polls that really mean something are those perennial tossup States. If I sit this election out because I don't like Trump it will not mean shit because SC will still go for the Republican by at least 5%. However, a poll in FL or OH where a significant number of Republicans said they were sitting it out would mean something.

But one thing everyone seams to be missing here is there will be no huge black turnout this time with a 96% vote for the Democrat. This is why Scankles has been hitting blacks so hard, she really needs that turnout.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (mpXpK)

29 I saw this earlier and have been discussing it with Sean on Facebook. I think it is a pretty smart analysis.

I've pointed out the PPP polling the last two days in Florida and Pennsylvania.

For a guy who is certain to lose, he is doing pretty well in key swing states.

Ace, you might also want to take a look at Nate Cohn's piece today that the demographics predicted by the 2012 exit polls are wrong on the number of white voters. There are more of them than everyone thinks.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (kLYph)

30 13 I think we are collectively going insane.
Posted by: Max Power at June 09, 2016 02:13 PM (q177U)

Wrong! You're all insane & want to steal my magic bag!

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (7HtZB)

31 The "thought leaders" ... aren't.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (oKE6c)

32 I think we are collectively going insane

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Societies do that. Easter Island, perfect example.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (Yjjjf)

33 Ironic, don't ya think.

Posted by: Alanis

Haven't you done enough to me?!?

*crouches in shower naked and sobbing*

Posted by: Irony at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (yjzf0)

34 It seems that the Right is suffering major divisions, isn't it?

If anything I think the 'groupthink' was back in the days when we all had faith in the GOP.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (vP09u)

35 >>>> Hillary, after all, is the Establishment's candidate.
Because the Spice Must Flow.
Posted by: mrp at June 09, 2016 02:14 PM
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Yes, indeed.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (6IPEM)

36 I dunno how anyone around me is going to vote, except for my leftist buddies, who are all without exception going to vote Hillary, no matter what they claim right now. Democrats line up to pull that lever, no matter who it is, because to them, Republicans are the worst possible result, so anything is better.

I have no idea how its going to go with Republicans. In the end, I suspect they'll mostly go for Trump, at least the ones that don't sit it out, or vote down ticket only. Because for many republicans, they're the flip side of the above Democrats.

As for folks like me, independents? I can't say. I'll be voting for Vermin Supreme as a protest. My vote means nothing, I live in Oregon where the results are predetermined.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)

37 Isn't Curiel some kind of hand lotion?

She's one of the nymphs in Midsummer Night's Dream, the one with the nice boobies.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (1xUj/)

38 Massive voter fraud with tacit approval from conservatives will ensure a Hillary presidency.

Posted by: Max Power at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (q177U)

39 The left and right gentry only quibble about how hard the right of center electorate needs beaten.

There is no other argument.

Fuck @TheRickWilson in particular.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (g8Hfr)

40 Two things...

Whenever there is a major election with one side firmly in the CHANGE category and the other being the STATUS QUO, always bet on the change side.

Second, this is going to be a Highlander type Quickening for the right wing media. People who are 5 tiers down will move to 1st tier and those who enjoy the top now will be laughed off into obscurity.

There will be a mad scramble at the end when the enthusiasm becomes overwhelming, but the few who are left on top will not allow the backpedaling.

Take advantage of the opportunity.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (Zs4uk)

41 8 I gotta be honest, sometimes I have not idea what Ace is getting at.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (zp+j1)

I thought he was going to go transition into another reason why social media is terrible and we should all stop, because I can see how you get to that argument from here.

Social media doesn't try to give you a wide variety of opinions that might challenge your beliefs. Unless it's explicitly liberal (i.e. manually manipulated so liberal causes show up), it's just an algorithm that is designed to give you what you want to hear. It's not any different than thumbs up or thumbs down-ing a song on pandora. The algoritm looks at that data point and tries to find music like it for you (or avoid music like it for you). Eventually all your music stations look the same.

It's the same with twitter or facebook. When you like, follow, or comment, or retweet something, that's a data point that the algorithm will use to suggest other ones like this. You'll be shuffled into groups of like-minded people, and bam. Now all you hear is things you agree with and nobody is arguing to the contrary.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (KUaJL)

42 "24 Isn't Curiel some kind of hand lotion?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr."

She puts the curiel in the basket.

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (OD2ni)

43 If only there was something, where we can use what culture works, based on something in the past, to figure out what common sense is.

Histrionics? No, that's not it.

'Tis a puzzler, that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (u82oZ)

44 This may have been mentioned last thread, but 9th Circus Court has ruled that concealed carry in public is not a part of the 2a.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (jJH0I)

45 1. the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.

Posted by: confirmation bias at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (CRXed)

46 This is remarkable election. The Republicans have nominated a faux-populist. The Democrats have nominated the ghost of Evita Peron. The Libertarians are running a pair of liberal Republicans.

Interesting times.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (O7MnT)

47 I could do with fewer histrionics. I've seen people claim in the comments here that Hillary is going to round conservatives up and put us FEMA camps.

That's always said as an eye roll joke.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (BoFYZ)

48 I think if the MSM hadn't shown reruns of Dagon all last summer we wouldn't all be insane now.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (Yjjjf)

49
Neil Stevens

I warned you he was a Nazi. You didn't listen. Now you have street fighting like Weimar Germany.

Of Red State and The Federalist

"Meee want cookieee!"

[pic] https://tinyurl.com/jjsuy4u

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (kdS6q)

50 >>Right, left, middle, hipster fonzie... Everyone has devolved into seventh grade girls.
It's like Idiocracy, but so much more insufferable.

THIS!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

51 It's like Idiocracy, but so much more insufferable.

Hah...so true. The idiots in that movie were too stupid to be so irritating.

What the future has become is almost EXACTLY Southpark.

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (qUNWi)

52 Because, as we all know, "diversity" consists exclusively of skin color. Not ideology, not nationality, not religion, not gender, but melanin content. ONLY that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

I think it's less about race and more about the other things he mentions, where they live, work, and the "elite" universities they attended. Even he slipped into the same leftist thinking on that one.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (Ee2nz)

53 I don't think there is a lack of diversity of thought, it's that we segregate into groups where there is conformity of thought. Then we burn the witches.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (QkA3o)

54 8 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:10 PM (zp+j1)

He is calling out GOP Pundit assholes who allow their butthurt over their rejection to Trump their human decency.

He is also rolling his eyes at the center-right electorate who thinks they have leverage on assholes who cash their checks on leftist paymaster's dimes.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (g8Hfr)

55 Republicans always start with a disadvantage; it's the price of Democrats controlling California and New York, plus Florida and Ohio in the last couple of elections. But all is not lost, and Trump might actually be able to do better than Romney and McVain in some states, like the Midwest and Florida.

Just like in the last election, this is very winnable. Hopefully we have a better candidate.

So far, I admit, I'm not optimistic: he lacks money, organization and he gives in to the punching down/lashing out urge of his id almost constantly.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:18 PM (/m8T6)

56
I've pointed out the PPP polling the last two days in Florida and Pennsylvania.

For a guy who is certain to lose, he is doing pretty well in key swing states.

Yeah but its PPP and they're notoriously unreliable. At this point the polls are pretty well useless anyway, and always have been.

If we're to believe the election so far has been shenanigans-free, polling has been even more inaccurate than ever before in my lifetime. They really seem to have no clue at all what is going to happen.

But I suspect there's been much shenanigatin' going on. So who knows what to think?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)

57 "If only there was something, where we can use what culture works, based on something in the past, to figure out what common sense is."

Starvation
Exposure to the elements
Hard labor

Posted by: confirmation bias at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (CRXed)

58 Maybe we should blue-sky thinktank how to crush a Hillary Presidency. It could also work for Trump.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (u82oZ)

59 We joke about getting together "in the camps".We don't think the left will really set up camps.They will simply turn the whole country into a camp.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (B48dK)

60 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)
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I heard that guy on Clyde Lewis' 'Ground Zero' radio program.

He's a hoot, yes he is, and his campaign platform of moving toward a pony-based economy is by no means the most ridiculous proposal I've ever heard.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (lutOX)

61 >>> This may have been mentioned last thread, but 9th Circus Court has ruled that concealed carry in public is not a part of the 2a.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM
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Isn't that the crazy lefty CA court?

Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (6IPEM)

62 "Meanwhile, not to speak of Unspeakable Unmentionables, but we're a week
out from law-abiding citizens being attacked in wolf-pack-style attacks
-- first separating them from their fellows, putting them into flight,
then attacking them as they run -- and the police stood by and watched because the Mayor thinks Trump supporters deserve this."

YES.

And they wonder why we are pissed off.

This is how civil wars start.

Posted by: exliberal at June 09, 2016 02:20 PM (kjizk)

63 19 So obama heartily endorsed Hillary! and is campaigning with her next week.. Yeah She's gonna get indicted...

Posted by: donna at

You might be right, but I'd say it's as likely that he's setting her up to make the betrayal all the sweeter.

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:20 PM (LAe3v)

64 So, after 60 years of inculcating the population with Marxist thought, we're all about to fracture on lines of race and class?

You don't say!

Posted by: LawLurker at June 09, 2016 02:20 PM (bq0pK)

65
Hillary, after all, is the Establishment's candidate.
Because the Spice Must Flow.
Posted by: mrp

Hillary's walker is one of the many new machines of Ix.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (IqV8l)

66 Isn't that the crazy lefty CA court?
Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (6IPEM)

Doesn't matter, still counts!

Posted by: SCOTUS without Scalia at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (KUaJL)

67 >>The "thought leaders" ... aren't.

Aren't great thinkers
Aren't leading anyone, despite their delusions of thought leadership

I sometimes see snippets of Erick Erickson and think "Who the f#%$ died and made this guy the voice of conservatism?" I have never much cared for whatever it is be blabbing on about. Same goes for most of NRO, Townhall and so many others that have rendered themselves irrelevant since 2008.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (NOIQH)

68 Fuck @TheRickWilson in particular

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Can't be said enough.

Has he impaled himself on a Barbie doll yet?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (Yjjjf)

69 All this "discussion" is fine and dandy. I will both work for and vote for Trump, because in the end I am not trying to win an argument, but win an election. Someone else can win the debate points, I live in the real world where results are what count.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (zp+j1)

70 59 We joke about getting together "in the camps".We don't think the left will really set up camps.They will simply turn the whole country into a camp.
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (B48dK)
***
To quote Madge the Manicurist from those old Palmolive commercials:

"You're soaking in it."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:22 PM (lutOX)

71 I'll probably get lynched for this but here goes.

1. I don't care about the current polling. The lifespan of the relevancy of any poll is only until the next poll.

2. I don't care about polling because my convictions are based on my convictions, not polls.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:22 PM (O7MnT)

72 This may have been mentioned last thread, but 9th Circus Court has ruled that concealed carry in public is not a part of the 2a.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM
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Isn't that the crazy lefty CA court?
Posted by: L, Elle

Yes. The most reversed court in history.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 02:22 PM (BoFYZ)

73 I'm glad to have a whole new bevy of places to ignore -- NRO, Redslate, Weakly Slandered, Tepid Flair...

This leaves me with moar porn time; with a bit of luck I too can expire mid-stroke.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 09, 2016 02:22 PM (gyKtp)

74 If I were advising Trump, I'd tell him to put a good 250 million into anti-fraud efforts. Lawyers lined up to make sure states clean up their roles, watchers standing around to keep an eye on voting booths, etc. And a fleet of lawyers on hand to deal with the inevitable fraudlent results of the election afterward. Add to that thousands of people with cameras documenting everything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

75 Vodka is the mind killer

Posted by: Bene Gesserit Clinton at June 09, 2016 02:23 PM (yjzf0)

76
And for the exact same reasons: A sense of class-based distaste for the people under assault, and a realization that this story harms their preferred narratives.

Proles exist to serve the Inner Party. They are not meant to have opinions of their own, certainly not - as a wise Moron commented yesterday - about silly 18th century anachronisms as life, liberty and property.

And with that trenchant observation, I'm out for the weekend. See you all Monday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 09, 2016 02:23 PM (X6fMO)

77 I live in the real world where results are what count.

Snob.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at June 09, 2016 02:23 PM (LAe3v)

78 If I were advising Trump, I'd tell him to put a good 250 million into anti-fraud efforts.

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As his adviser, where would he get this $250 million?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 02:23 PM (gmeXX)

79 Hillary's walker is one of the many new machines of Ix.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (IqV8l)
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Idiot... She is one of the many new machines of Ix.

It's like I don't even know you any more.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:23 PM (lutOX)

80 68 Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 02:21 PM (Yjjjf)

When he gets her wedged in well enough his airplane does nifty aerobatics.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (g8Hfr)

81 Outcomes in terms of liklihood (IMHO).

1. Hillary Beats Trump
2. FBI criminal referral and no charges from DOJ, Hillary out, Biden in, beats Trump.
3. Same as two, but Hillary hangs in and beats Trump.
4. Criminal referral against Hillary, not charges, she hangs in, Trump wins.
5. No referral for Hillary, Trump wins.
6. Trump self-destructs, stays in and loses badly.
7. Trump self-destructs, ejects. R's put in someone conservatives hate but will get behind.
8. Same as 7, except R's put in someone conservatives are happy about.
9. SMOD

Preferred outcomes are 8, then 9; but they involve extreme wish-casting. Agree with Ace that we have to face reality and deal with it. Also agree with his recent crankiness. I feel the same way, but that's because usually, even with a Dole-level RINO, I still hope they win. I can't even get up enough enthusiasm to hope Trump wins. The only thing left is a D would probably be worse.

Posted by: duke at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (EQNFN)

82 "I think much of the grassroots of the right would be shocked to turn to see that their alleged thought-leaders..."

Yeah, I'm at the point where "thought-leaders" are just a synonym for "guy/gal with an ~~a-hole~~ opinion".

There is an extremely small subset of actual, leadership quality, personalities with a regular forum, and there's an apparently unlimited superset of flockers squawking about.

I'm old enough to not care anymore about what I'm supposed to think or know. The Commentariat has surrendered its appeal. I'm all for the democracy of voice in an internet age; but whether PC is voiced by one or a million, "they" can pound sand. They really won't sway me anymore.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (1CroS)

83 It is an intriguing thought, spawned of this post and other of ace's meditations, fecundated by my own dark musings, and birthed on the gin-soaked bed that is my brain, that the next civil war is already under way, only in slow-motion, and, what is more, it's not political - it's class vs class, ethnicity vs ethnicity, and therefore, measure for measure, far nastier than anything I'd come to expect.--------Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

All that is missing is an actual body count.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (m3iiU)

84 A huge percentage of the professional pundit class assured me that Trump would never be the nominee.

Now the same punditry assures me he can't win.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (WlGX+)

85 so nominating Trump means the death of conservatism, but nominating Romney and McCain didn't?
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The death not of real conservatism. Merely the death of "true conservative conservatism", Conservatism, Inc., and neo-conservatism.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (NUqwG)

86 It's been said that Hillary needs to win the black vote, a traditionally reliable voting block. What about some of the traditionally reliable Republican voting blocks? How is Trump doing with them? I'm particularly speaking of evangelical Christians. I think that's the largest block that comes to my mind.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (DLIpz)

87 74 If I were advising Trump, I'd tell him to put a good 250 million into anti-fraud efforts. Lawyers lined up to make sure states clean up their roles, watchers standing around to keep an eye on voting booths, etc. And a fleet of lawyers on hand to deal with the inevitable fraudlent results of the election afterward. Add to that thousands of people with cameras documenting everything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

The flaw in that plan is that it assumes the rule of law is there to back it all up.

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (LAe3v)

88 There are white people on Twitter! We've got to do something! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (0mRoj)

89 Yes. The most reversed court in history.

Posted by: rickb223>>>

You misspelled Revered!

Posted by: Chief Judge Sidney Thomas at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (XtAzU)

90 So that gun fauxumentary Couric did? Yeah its going out with the faked scene still in it.

http://heatst.com/entertainment/katie-couric-misleading-gun-documentary/

I mean, why not? Michael Moore made a career out of this kind of thing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (39g3+)

91
This may have been mentioned last thread, but 9th Circus Court has ruled that concealed carry in public is not a part of the 2a.

So it's back to open carry for California?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

92 Sean Trende made this excellent point about Florida, but I would bet you could make an analogous point about Ohio, Pennsylvania and a couple of other states.

Moreover, very liberal Democrats are 14 percent of the Florida electorate in the poll, while somewhat liberal voters are 16 percent of that electorate. Very conservative voters are 16 percent of the electorate, while somewhat conservative voters are 24 percent of the electorate. The math works out that if Clinton brings home all of the liberal voters, while Trump brings home all of the conservative voters, his position would actually improve.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:26 PM (/m8T6)

93 >>The flaw in that plan is that it assumes the rule of law is there to back it all up.

Hey, I'm all for making them really work for it. If they want to commit voter fraud why should it be so dang easy?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:26 PM (NOIQH)

94 OMG THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING

Posted by: Bill Kristol's Ovaries at June 09, 2016 02:26 PM (10hEu)

95 Idiot... She is one of the many new machines of Ix.

There were some Tleilaxu ghola attempts as well.

The tanks were, shall we say...difficult to clean.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho MMCMXXII at June 09, 2016 02:26 PM (yjzf0)

96 Isn't that the crazy lefty CA court?
Posted by: L, Elle at June 09, 2016 02:19 PM (6IPEM)

****

Yep. Without Scalia to deal with they are going for broke.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (jJH0I)

97 By the way: I agree he will almost certainly lose.

I read this piece this morning, and was nodding all the way through.

I'm not sure about this assumption anymore either, that Trump will almost certainly lose.

I thought Romney would almost certainly win. How could he not?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (qCMvj)

98 I worry that I'm bubbling myself because I will admit that there are time, such as, say, last night, when I am ready to say screw it and walk away and only listen to, read and converse with a very limited number of people.

But, there's the thing, I worry about that. I know it's a problem. I know that confirmation bias is part and parcel of human nature.

I worry that I am Unpeopling others the way they Unpeople me. It's not right when I do it either, though, of course, it's soooooo totes justified whenI do it, yup, yup.

One of the things you learn very quickly once you wander out and start actually working in the legal field is never fall in love with your case. Never get so convinced of how noble your client is and how unassailable your legal position and how there is no possible way that a judge or jury can see otherwise.

Hubris comes before Nemesis. And Nemesis always, always comes.

Being unable to even begin to conceive of why someone would support a different candidate will doom you and your candidate to failure. You don't have to agree with it, but you have to know why. If you don't? You can't counter that appeal.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (mf5HN)

99 86 Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (DLIpz)

If Xians side with an enabler and creator of genuine Xian genocide then Xians deserve all they get.

Let stupidity be its own reward.

She bitch was part of an admin that booed God thrice at their convention in 2012.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (g8Hfr)

100 Our machines are better than ix machines! And if you order one machine now, we'll send you another machine absolutely free!

Posted by: Richese at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (0mRoj)

101 The flaw in that plan is that it assumes the rule of law is there to back it all up.

Well, lets just say if nobody fights back, it makes them even more bold and makes their job that much easier.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

102 85 so nominating Trump means the death of conservatism, but nominating Romney and McCain didn't?
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The death not of real conservatism. Merely the death of "true conservative conservatism", Conservatism, Inc., and neo-conservatism.
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Glad that's settled. Now, can we please get down to winning an election and saving civilization?

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:28 PM (/m8T6)

103 I read this piece earlier this morning...

"Theres a cosmopolitan vs. traditionalist divide that runs through our politics, with cultural cosmopolitans running both parties."

Something you have been pointing out for some time, Ace.

He starts out talking about how the polls in Florida and Pennsylvania do not jibe with the current "understanding" that Trump will lose big.

The cosmopolitans running the GOP are so disconnected from reality..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 09, 2016 02:28 PM (so+oy)

104 I am not so sure Trump will lose. I am old enough to have voted against Jimminy Carter in 1980. I thought sure King Putts would lose in 2012 because the situation, to me, was EXACTLY like 1980 - a seemingly centrist but closet leftist SCOAMF "president" who presided over a sucky economy, was terrible at foreign policy and whose main explanation for all this was that it was somebody else's fault. In Carter's case it was US and in Obumbler's case it was Bush. But I figured this new Carter was SURE to be fired just like the old one was because people ain't that stupid. They gave the guy a chance, it backfired, time for a change.

But as we all know I (and others who thought like this) were WRONG WRONG WRONG. 2012 was different than 1980 although the facts on the ground were eerily similar. But everything else was different - different voters, different attitudes, different candidates, different, different, different. The past was no longer prologue.

What does this have to do with Trump? Everything. We have probably two of the WORST candidates for president ever, at least in my lifetime. And they are very peculiar in their own respective ways, ways which by now should be obvious to everyone. The economy still stinks, foreign affairs are even WORSE now than 8 years ago (in large part thanks to Shillary) and possibly one or both of the candidates are seemingly crooks who would've been prosecuted by now if they weren't high-profile rich people. So I would suggest that NONE of the models of the past have a clue with regards to this election, assuming both candidates are still on the ballot in November. If someone can tell me who is going to show up to vote in November (burned Bernie supporters? Reps voting for Shillary? Dems for Trump?) and what the state of the country is (the economy still unexpectedly malodorous? Another terrorist attack somewhere? High-profile indictments? The media all finally crawled so far up their own a$$holes that they all disappear?) then I might predict who is going to win and still very likely be wrong. So forget the polls, forget the pants-crease pundits, forget the models, forget everything. This is totally uncharted territory. Anything can happen. And probably will.

Posted by: Not From Here Or There at June 09, 2016 02:28 PM (G57fe)

105 I'm not sure about this assumption anymore either, that Trump will almost certainly lose.

It's a toss, but whatever the outcome, one individual vote is unlikely to make a difference.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

106 Andrew McCarthy has a lawyer's take on Trump and the judge.

Trump and the Judge: Cynical Politics, Not Law and Not Racism

Last week's intentionally provocative tirade against Judge Curiel was classic Donald Trump: personal, bracing and slippery. The mogul gratuitously invoked the judge's Mexican heritage, but not so much to smear Curiel as to damn him with faint praise. As sure as night follows day, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee's remarks were inflated by the media into a claim that all American judges of Mexican descent should be deemed biased against Trump.

Whatever Trump may have meant, that is not what he said.

http://tinyurl.com/zkojfq9
(PJMedia)

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (R+30W)

107 The Libertarians are running a pair of liberal Republicans.

Interesting times.
Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (O7MnT)

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He's "liberal" because he doesn't think spending a bazillion dollars on the war on drugs is a good idea. Never mind that he wants to cut taxes (0% corp tax), get the feds out of education, slash regulations. None of that matters. He wants to legalize pot, so he's a commie.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (0LHZx)

108 Twitter is a sewer.
This political cycle has really exposed the pundit class as a bunch of spineless shills for the elites.

Posted by: Iblis at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (9221z)

109 Neil Stevens

I warned you he was a Nazi. You didn't listen. Now you have street fighting like Weimar Germany.

Neil watching Hogan's Heroes:

"Which ones are the Nazis again?"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (vP09u)

110 Who the fcuk is Sean Trende?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (3vqvE)

111 if every bit of analysis is actually nothing more than a conclusion in search of an argument,

what the left has been guilty of forever

I guess its infectious

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (qCMvj)

112 73 I'm glad to have a whole new bevy of places to ignore -- NRO, Redslate, Weakly Slandered, Tepid Flair...

One thing to keep in mind...

We have a strong group of people who mainly lurk here, but are respected commenters at other sites. As Ace publishes more articles designed to elect our nominee and defeat Clinton, you may want to mention and link back to AoSHQ.

Also, if you're the type who calls in to CSPAN, ("I'm a lifelong democrat, but I feel the party has left me...") go ahead and mention the website.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (Zs4uk)

113 And once again, another forecast of Trump's demise. He's gonna lose, donncha know. Just like all the other times he was going to lose.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (Fmupd)

114 >>I worry that I am Unpeopling others the way they Unpeople me. It's not
right when I do it either, though, of course, it's soooooo totes
justified whenI do it, yup, yup....

Excellent point.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (NOIQH)

115 All that is missing is an actual body count.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (m3iiU)
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It's not for want of trying.
- San Jose Rioters Local #666

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (lutOX)

116

Meanwhile, not to speak of Unspeakable Unmentionables, but we're a week
out from law-abiding citizens being attacked in wolf-pack-style attacks
-- first separating them from their fellows, putting them into flight,
then attacking them as they run -- and the police stood by and watched because the Mayor thinks Trump supporters deserve this.

In fact, some "right-leaning" commentators have expressed agreement with the mayor: they did deserve it. They're Unpeople of Jesusland.

======================

Spot on, Ace. That's one of the big reasons why this election cycle will be unique. This level of institutional violence is unprecedented, at least since the 1860 election. In 2012, individual Republicans might get beaten up for the crime of being Republican, but now we have industrial-level class separation being introduced into the election process. A process aided and abetted by a politically-biased information distribution system managed by a MSM that has serious skin in the game.

Posted by: mrp at June 09, 2016 02:30 PM (JBggj)

117 Pitching a new movie idea to the studios:

The story depicts an invasion of body snatchers that begins in the editorial offices of major conservative opinion rags. Alien plant spores have fallen from space and grown into large seed pods, each one capable of reproducing a duplicate replacement copy of each human. As each pod reaches full development, it assimilates the physical characteristics, memories, and personalities of a conservative thought-leader placed near it; these duplicates, however, are devoid of all American nationalism and promote the de-industrialization of America and the replacement of Americans with aliens. These pod people leech onto tech billionaires for nutritional sustenance and political direction while they grow and multiply.

Little by little, a local blogger uncovers this "quiet" invasion and attempts to stop it.

Posted by: What - It's been done before? at June 09, 2016 02:30 PM (X4FeV)

118 I will admit that there are time, such as, say, last night, when I am ready to say screw it and walk away and only listen to, read and converse with a very limited number of people.

*preens*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (1xUj/)

119 Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (g8Hfr)

I was asking if anyone had any recent polling data. Not a call for vengeance .

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (DLIpz)

120 He's "liberal" because he doesn't think spending a bazillion dollars on the war on drugs is a good idea. Never mind that he wants to cut taxes (0% corp tax), get the feds out of education, slash regulations. None of that matters. He wants to legalize pot, so he's a commie.

Actually, I consider him a liberal because of his support for wedding cake fascism and the play he is making for Bernie Voters. ("I agree with 73% of what Bernie Sanders says.")

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (O7MnT)

121 A question for the horde: When learning to write essays we are told we have to address our opponents strongest argument. You can't just let it sit out there, untouched.

So here's the question: What's Hillary's strongest argument for election? (other than her ability to monetize public office better than anyone evah, and her gender, and her opponent's inherent Nazi-like tendancies etc etc). A real argument.

I honestly do not know.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (/m8T6)

122 107 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (0LHZx)

and open borders, and enforced cake baking but "yeah" WEED MAN!

In my home state of Ohio a GOP House, Senate and Governor just legalized medicinal mary jane...

think the dopeheads will acknowledge it and vote GOP out of gratitude?

If so I have some beachfront property in El Paso Texas to sell you.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (g8Hfr)

123 "By the way: I agree he will almost certainly lose."

Anyone who says this doesn't understand what's going on in most of America and what most Americans are thinking. Which is why they've been so wrong about Trump.

Firstly, Trump is going to schlong the Clintons next week.

But more importantly

It's the economy, stupid!

John Crudele at the NY Post is a real journalist who's been exposing the lies in our economic statistics for the last few years. He's got a great two-page spread today about how badly the Obama economy has performed since he's been in office. Most of us are worse off. The kicker left out of the article is that Obama has spent an excess of $8 trillion with borrowings while the Fed has kept interest rates near zero -- GDP growth should have been redlining above 5% -- instead its been less than our population growth -- we've collectively been getting poorer.

Expect Trump to make Hillary own this.

And throw in a terrorist attack or two fro good measure.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (r1fLd)

124 Yeah if the Federalist podcast continues to run with "Trump-is-racist because of La Raza judge" thing today I will unsubscribe. They said that it was a different La Raza, which I don't know. But if he's wrong about the details, then what on earth is implicating him in the broad strokes?

They picked up a cudgel of which they were on the receiving end, enough times to learn to despise the cheap and lazy tactic. They will inevitably be cudgeled again at some point if PC culture doesn't completely break.

Posted by: BourbonChicken, Protector of Ancient Memes at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (VdICR)

125 Well, legalizing pot is the only thing that matters to a lot of Libertarians, too, as it happens.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (vP09u)

126 How is Trump doing with them? I'm particularly speaking of evangelical Christians. I think that's the largest block that comes to my mind.

I think Christian voters are looking in dismay at having to choose between a scumbag used car salesman philanderer... and a crooked corrupt feminist radical that hates them. How that will turn out in the end, is anybody's guess.

And then forever after, people will be guessing and passing on myths like the "evangelicals stayed home in 2012" one that keeps coming up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (39g3+)

127 84 A huge percentage of the professional pundit class assured me that Trump would never be the nominee.

Now the same punditry assures me he can't win.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 09, 2016 02:24 PM (WlGX+)

____

Yep. Pretty much every single prediction made by the punditry in the past year has been wrong.

They were all sure Trump would fizzle out.

They were all sure Sanders would quit my March.

They were all sure Bernie would beat or come thiiiiis close to beating Hillary in California.

None of them though Cruz would get double digits and yet he ended up #2 over all.

And on and on.

So now these same people tell us Trump has no chance against Hillary and he must be replaced by Ryan. Ryan....the guy these same pundits assured us would be the VP in 2012.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (0LHZx)

128 113 And once again, another forecast of Trump's demise. He's gonna lose, donncha know. Just like all the other times he was going to lose.
Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (Fmupd)

This is why I'm so hoping for him to crush Clinton this fall. I want the entire pundicracy to suffer Scanners style brain explosions.
Time for some massive come-uppance.

Posted by: Iblis at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (9221z)

129
Oliver Willis

If Trump wins Maryland I will eat an entire crab. I am allergic to crab and I'd probably die.

BRB - looking at rentals in Annapolis and voting registration deadlines.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (kdS6q)

130 Trump's going to lose. He has to. Or I might have to go out and get a real job.

Posted by: Kill Bristol at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (1CroS)

131 I believe that most people in my Twitter feed, left and right, don't know many genuine Trump supporters, if any.

I am not on Twitter, but I have to say, if you have the time to be on Twitter all day... what the hell are you contributing anyway?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (qCMvj)

132 I saw someone refer to "egging" as a halloween prank not worthy of calling an assault, but watch the video of that woman being pelted in the face with an actual egg . . . that could result in the loss of an eye! to compare have an egg thrown at your face with an egg being thrown at your house on 10/31 is either willful ignorance or pure contempt

Posted by: chelsea danger at June 09, 2016 02:33 PM (1nFsQ)

133 I must have missed something, I thought you quit twitter?

Posted by: JB at June 09, 2016 02:33 PM (R4z9F)

134 Slightly OT but I see that two of the top news stories on Bing are "UN Says Ireland's Abortion Ban Is Cruel To Women" and "Holocaust Victims Personal Possessions Found After 50 Years."

Genocide good, genocide bad.

Posted by: CrustyB at June 09, 2016 02:33 PM (GvSpB)

135 125 Well, legalizing pot is the only thing that matters to a lot of Libertarians, too, as it happens.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (vP09u)

___

And so what? If they vote for someone who will ALSO cut taxes, ALSO cut spending, ALSO gets the feds out of education....that's a good thing.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (0LHZx)

136 It's liberating watching the GOPe and Conservatism Inc. ignore the mob violence directed towards Trump supporters while calling Trump a racist. It comfirmed that the GOPe/ Conservatism Inc. had cast their lot with the SJWs who now control the Democrats.

At some point in the past the Rubicon had been crossed but I could only suspect it. The anti-Trump commentaries and denunciations of the past few days was the moment in which I actually saw Bill Kristol, Lindsay Graham, Victor French on the other side of the river holding hands with DeRay McKeeson, Rachel Dolezal, and Sally Kohn singing "We Shall Overcome."

Roosh argued that the Conservative establishment was collapsing but I didn't completely believe him. The last few days have now left no doubt in my mind about his assertion.

Good riddance to all of you stunads and strunzos!

Cuckle-doodle-doo!

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (H7qBA)

137 My evangelical brother is a registered Democrat, and will be voting for Hillary. Her support for open borders and against any conflict with ISIS is what most interests him. He sees too much "hate" on the Right.
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99
86 Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (DLIpz)

If Xians side with an enabler and creator of genuine Xian genocide then Xians deserve all they get.

Let stupidity be its own reward.

She bitch was part of an admin that booed God thrice at their convention in 2012.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:27 PM (g8Hfr)

Posted by: Pyrocles at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (fVOPU)

138 We had a foreshadowing of this with Harriet Myers.

It was clear that the unspoken argument being advanced, beneath the "she's unqualified" claim, was "She's not one of us because she didn't go to our special little schools and therefore she's not fit to serve."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (4ErVI)

139 "Oliver Willis"

His Jeeps were the best.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (3vqvE)

140 "Ugh, Trump? How will I explain this when I'm in Europe? It's all so embarrassing"

-quote from a "conservative" friend of mine

Posted by: brak at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (MJuTN)

141 Actually, I consider him a liberal because of his support for wedding cake fascism and the play he is making for Bernie Voters. ("I agree with 73% of what Bernie Sanders says.")

Yeah between that and his gun grabbing running mate and their adoration for open borders and illegal immigration... its pretty obvious the Libertarian ticket is going for the Sanders bloc. Apparently liberty means something different to them than it does myself.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)

142 If so I have some beachfront property in El Paso Texas to sell you.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (g8Hfr)
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Are transit toll charging rights grandfathered in the title?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (NUqwG)

143 "The Libertarians are running a pair of liberal Republicans."

One of the two being an ardent gun control proponent from the People's Soviet Socialist Republic of Massachusetts.

How "libertarian".

I've voted LP at times in the past, but this is a sad joke.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (noWW6)

144 132 I saw someone refer to "egging" as a halloween prank

____

That someone was the editor of Red State.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (0LHZx)

145 Being unable to even begin to conceive of why someone would support a different candidate will doom you and your candidate to failure. You don't have to agree with it, but you have to know why.

Because 50+% are fucking lazy, unprincipled wastes of skin that would rather have government steal and give it to them.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 02:34 PM (BoFYZ)

146 Listen to Hugh Hewitt's comments. He has straight up lost his mind.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (U+nHb)

147 Gawd I can do without all the pundit hand-wringing and lemon-sucking. No one wants to listen to that shit for the next 5 months. You would think a bunch of sucks sitting in a chair giving their opinions from their swanky townhome might have a little more stomach, but nothing but a bunch of soft cunts. Bill Krystol, I'm thinking of you.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (QkA3o)

148 124 Yeah if the Federalist podcast continues to run with "Trump-is-racist because of La Raza judge" thing today I will unsubscribe. They said that it was a different La Raza, which I don't know. But if he's wrong about the details, then what on earth is implicating him in the broad strokes?

They picked up a cudgel of which they were on the receiving end, enough times to learn to despise the cheap and lazy tactic. They will inevitably be cudgeled again at some point if PC culture doesn't completely break.
Posted by: BourbonChicken, Protector of Ancient Memes at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (VdICR)

See, if Trump knew this judge was a member of a La Raza, he should've led with that instead of the Mexican crap. Its good that its out now, but it doesn't have the impact. But who knows, maybe Trump can shine a spotlight on those racists and do some good.

Posted by: Iblis at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (9221z)

149 I realize Ace is far from leading the 'Make America Great Again' pro-Trump bandwagon. But it's distressing to see him so reconciled to defeat. The polls in 'battleground' states are the best 'tell' of what is happening. They're statistically dead even.

That's not 'resounding defeat' territory. The millennial generation just proved in California that even with free college tuition on the line, they were too fing lazy yo fill out a ballot and walk it to the mailbox.

This election could be the most resounding repudiation of socialism in a hundred years.

I'd rather not be a pessimist.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (ZnIt3)

150 133 Posted by: JB at June 09, 2016 02:33 PM (R4z9F)

It's Retardalympic season....

I had to go back...imagine Ace keeps a foot in

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (g8Hfr)

151 Isn't Johnson's running mate also calling for gun control?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 02:35 PM (3ZoRf)

152 I think much of the grassroots of the right would be shocked to turn to see that their alleged thought-leaders are no longer attempting to push back against political correctness, but impose it every bit as vindictively and self-servingly as the Permissible Opinion Patrol brigades of the left.

Shocked? Hell no! GOPe, #NeverTrump, #ExGOP... The people aligned with the leaders of these overlapping factions have been clearly PC for quite some time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 09, 2016 02:36 PM (R+30W)

153 Oliver Willis

If Trump wins Maryland I will eat an entire crab. I am allergic to crab and I'd probably die.

He thinks I won't expect him to do it?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:36 PM (vP09u)

154 OW: "If Trump wins Maryland I will eat an entire crab. I am allergic to crab and I'd probably die."

Just be sure to ask the restaurant to top it off with peanut oil, poison ivy leaves, and bee venom.

Posted by: Grateful Masses at June 09, 2016 02:36 PM (1CroS)

155

Great post, Ace.

I watch all of this in horror.

If these people would put even a tenth of the energy into destroying Hillary and all Democrats that they've put into Cruz and Trump, we could quite possible win. That's why all of this is so unnerving. They simply do not care about the people or who ends up in charge. They are all becoming unhinged narcissistic psychopaths. Maybe that is all that is attracted to positions of absolute nothingness.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:36 PM (qCMvj)

156 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (39g3+)

That old chestnut might be more accurate in this election than those in the past. Only poll I've seen says 30% stay home. Things could change who knows.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:36 PM (DLIpz)

157 >>>133 I must have missed something, I thought you quit twitter?

i did, but I use it for news gathering when I don't have any stories to write about, and I got drawn in by the strident and utterly unquestioned groupthink I saw, and had to begin trolling them to blow up the smug agreement and back-patting.

Pretty much i've declared myself persona non grata, which is fine by me, because I've decided that I literally despise most of thse people and could not have less respect for them if I actually worked at it for three weeks using yoga and meditation to lower my respect to medically undetectable levels.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (dciA+)

158 I dunno what to think anymore. Little bit of a story here; earlier today I went and got a haircut. One of those fancy joints where they have a seperate person to wash your hair before the actual 'stylist' cuts it.

So the guy washing my hair, Asian, lots of tattoos, (presumably) gay, starts talking to me, tentatively at first... about Trump, and how much he likes him.

I think that a lot of people that we don't usually think of as going GOP are actually going to get on the 'Trump Train', or at least, more then anyone can yet guess.

Posted by: Hammer BT at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (y0xhc)

159 "BRB - looking at rentals in Annapolis and voting registration deadlines."

How much you got on ya?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (3vqvE)

160 86 What about some of the traditionally reliable Republican voting blocks? How is Trump doing with them? I'm particularly speaking of evangelical Christians. I think that's the largest block that comes to my mind.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:25 PM (DLIpz)

Trump is doing quite well with the evangelicals; think about how well he did throughout the South. Whupped Cruz on his own turf, so to speak.

Oh, and I just have to repeat this from a late ONT post:

434 I wonder how long it's been since a US Senate race had the candidates of only one major party on the ballot - if ever (talking post-Civil War and reconstruction).

It's pretty stunning.

Posted by: rhomboid

CA is gone for good.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (gyKtp)

161 In my home state of Ohio a GOP House, Senate and Governor just legalized medicinal mary jane...

think the dopeheads will acknowledge it and vote GOP out of gratitude?

If so I have some beachfront property in El Paso Texas to sell you.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:31 PM (g8Hfr)

____

Not sure what your point is. Mine is, who cares if stoners vote for Libertarians just for the pot? Let them. And they will inadvertently also vote for fiscal sanity. Why is this a bad thing?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (0LHZx)

162 >>So here's the question: What's Hillary's strongest argument for
election? (other than her ability to monetize public office better than
anyone evah, and her gender, and her opponent's inherent Nazi-like
tendancies etc etc). A real argument.

I think it's like Obama's strongest argument: it makes the voter feel good about themselves for voting for the first ever "X" candidate (black, woman, whatever). It's the same impulse that drives these LIVs and Lefties to get offended on behalf of an "X" group of people - it makes them feel all virtuous, caring, noble and gives 'em a sense or moral superiority. It's all about the feelz.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (NOIQH)

163 Just imagine if we belonged to a party with its shit together...

Obama just endorsed someone who (if the fix wasn't in) could be indicted tomorrow. This sends a message to his Justice Dept. to lay off her.

If we knew what we were doing, every republican would be beating their way to a microphone talking about the constitutional crisis he just caused, how justice has been crushed and what a corrupt duo they are.

How fucking arrogantly can they ignore the law and the appearance of collusion?

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (Zs4uk)

164
Everyone at @Redstate has gone full ret-rd: "Red Hats are the new Brown Shirts", "That woman in San Jose was just trying to Make America Again".

Others defended Glenn Beck's and Brad Thor's assassination fantasies and wailed when Beck was suspended from Sirius.

The Movement Conservatives and Bushwood Country Club types have gone full bitter-clinger. I'm not a Trumpalo but f*ck them all with a Louisville Slugger.

Posted by: furious at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (8lw4l)

165 "Oliver Willis"

His Jeeps were the best.>>>

No ours were!!11!!

Posted by: American Bantam Car Company at June 09, 2016 02:38 PM (XtAzU)

166 157 Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (dciA+)

Taker that Penn and Foster Locksmithing class Ace...

It'll focus your mind and the win in being able to pick a lock will feed your "actual man skills" ego.

Keep a foot in on twatter kick a few balls as needed.

Taking the four month break let me see people for who they are in a way you can't observe when running in their pack.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:38 PM (g8Hfr)

167 Yep. Pretty much every single prediction made by the punditry in the past year has been wrong.

And the polling is way off.

There's a gigantic disconnect between the mood of the country and the supposed observers and documentors of the country. This is unprecedented, at least in my lifetime. I have never seen such as gap between actual voters and the powers that be. I wonder what that means, in the end?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:38 PM (39g3+)

168 Mean while back in the real world:

Obama Tells Israel Not To Fight Back After Latest Terror Attack

Cant say Im surprised.

Weasel Zippers

Moral equivilancy at work and "left wing" values

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:38 PM (zp+j1)

169
They said that it was a different La Raza, which I don't know. But if he's wrong about the details, then what on earth is implicating him in the broad strokes?

La Raza the legal association says it specializes in Latino issues,what other issues are specific to the Latino community other than immigration and civil rights issues? Which the National Council of La Raza also specialize in.To say they are not connected is absurd

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (lKyWE)

170 in order to NOT be drawn in again, I've muted, blocked, or unfollowed the most sanctimonious offenders.

so at least my anger will be provoked less frequently.

Pretty much I've unfollowed 75% of the online right, and I would unfollow even more of them, except some of them are sort of friends and would notice if I did unfollow. So I kept some follows for purely social-peace reasons.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (dciA+)

171 "Yeah if the Federalist podcast continues to run with 'Trump-is-racist
because of La Raza judge' thing today I will unsubscribe. They said
that it was a different La Raza, which I don't know."

The La Raza Lawyers Association and the National Council of La Raza have absolutely nothing at all to do with each other.

Other than, y'know, their long and documented history of amicable cooperation, and the individuals who have served in executive capacities in both, and the crosslinks from their Web sites, and all that.

But apart from those things they're TOTALLY different! Serious you guys!

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (noWW6)

172 Cuckle-doodle-doo!

Subtle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (1xUj/)

173 123
"By the way: I agree he will almost certainly lose."

Anyone who says this doesn't understand what's going on in most of
America and what most Americans are thinking. Which is why they've been
so wrong about Trump.

Firstly, Trump is going to schlong the Clintons next week.

But more importantly

It's the economy, stupid!

John Crudele at the NY Post is a real journalist who's been exposing
the lies in our economic statistics for the last few years. He's got a
great two-page spread today about how badly the Obama economy has
performed since he's been in office. Most of us are worse off. The
kicker left out of the article is that Obama has spent an excess of $8
trillion with borrowings while the Fed has kept interest rates near zero
-- GDP growth should have been redlining above 5% -- instead its been
less than our population growth -- we've collectively been getting
poorer.

Expect Trump to make Hillary own this.

And throw in a terrorist attack or two fro good measure.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 09, 2016 02:32 PM (r1fLd)

While I am girding my loins on what will happen under a Trump presidency, I do believe that Shrillary will get schlonged.She has to overcome:
1) She is a liar. There is not a single thread of integrity here
2) A follow on to that - she is not likable.
3) Don't discount Bernie and his followers abandoning the DNC cause.
4) She is holding fast to TFG's accomplishments (mainly because she has none herself). She will have to own the shitstorm that will be coming. And it will come.
5) Trump - while a raving lunatic, has excited the populace. He is taking on MSM and is not afraid to get into their face. The populace has been waiting for this for a very very long time and is eating this up.
6) Trump is still an anti-establishment candidate. Nobody wants anything to do the the GOPe.
7) Shrillary is (serously?) wounded by the email server issue. And while an indictment may or may not come, the issue will not go away before the election.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (jxbfJ)

174 So the guy washing my hair, Asian, lots of tattoos, (presumably) gay, starts talking to me, tentatively at first... about Trump, and how much he likes him.

Posted by: Hammer BT at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (y0xhc)

______

Indian dude I know (from India not a Liz Warren's cousin) is a YUUUGE Trump supporter. And at first when I found out I did the "whhhaaaa but how could he be, he's not white???" And then I had to tell myself that this shouldn't shock me. It shocks me only because I listen to the pundit class which tells me the only people who like Trump are Stromfront peeps.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (0LHZx)

175 Little by little, a local blogger uncovers this "quiet" invasion and attempts to stop it.
Posted by: What - It's been done before? at June 09, 2016 02:30 PM (X4FeV)

Obligatory:

https://youtu.be/GEStsLJZhzo

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 09, 2016 02:39 PM (mf5HN)

176 161 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (0LHZx)

What fiscal sanity?

Did I miss Kasich ending the Ohio Welfare Addicts use of the community chest for pedicures?

They are not libertarians they are libertines.

They are not into that whole "liberty" thing past their intoxicants.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (g8Hfr)

177 MTF: "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"

Her heavenly voice?

I've got nothin'.

Seriously, I cannot fathom any appeal other than she actually bribes any supporters with cash.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (1CroS)

178 I wonder what that means, in the end?
The End.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (QPdNE)

179 >>>Then what happens is that male competition begins within the microculture, with each new would-be alpha leader of the pack showing his fitness to lead by offering an even more strident and dogmatic -- less nuanced and less caveated -- restatement of the cult dogma, until the competition simply devolves into "who can shout the most extreme version of this stupid cult creed that no one thought about for more than two minutes before accepting as God's Transmitted Truth"?
.
My goodness is that THE TRUTH. Happens everywhere, especially in religion and especially amongst our Islamic friends.

Posted by: Javems at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (yOqwj)

180 No, the right isn't that far yet. Not quite. But they're definitely in the Raving and Casting Out the Disbelievers phase.

I could be wrong, but I thought I have been seeing even the right hinting at the "Trump is Hitler" meme.

He's dangerous.
He's a monster.

It's nuts.

They are the ones who are dangerous. The mobsters.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (qCMvj)

181 108 Twitter is a sewer.
This political cycle has really exposed the pundit class as a bunch of spineless shills for the elites.
Posted by: Iblis at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (9221z)

-----------------

Most of them that are denouncing Trump have never been on the right. Just like 95% of congress, they see themselves being on another plane over the common people. They don't recognize right or left since they rule over both.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (Fmupd)

182 Wasn't Oliver Willis on Diff'rent Strokes?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (4ErVI)

183 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM (GwIKd)

184 Post is classed as Aarne-Thompson-Uther type 20C, of paranoia and mass hysteria.

Posted by: Chicken Little, PhD at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (uyrlv)

185 And the polling is way off.

There's a gigantic disconnect between the mood of the country and the supposed observers and documentors of the country. This is unprecedented, at least in my lifetime. I have never seen such as gap between actual voters and the powers that be. I wonder what that means, in the end?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:38 PM (39g3+)

I am not saying you are wrong, but the same cry was thrown out in '12- "the polls must be wrong."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (3ZoRf)

186 Lizzy - When FAB did made her foreign "hic" policy speech she tried to say her vast experience and success in foreign policy with Russia, Iran, and various other bad actors. That she didn't spontaneously combust from the lies was disappointing to me.

Her point was that Trump has none of her achievements in foreign policy. If failure is an achievement she was awesome.

Posted by: Cheri at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (oiNtH)

187 What's Hillary's strongest argument for
election?

1. She has a vag.
2. She is married to Bill.

That's what she is, literally, running on. Historic First and nostalgia for the 90's.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (O7MnT)

188 i added an update about micro monocultures and the competition within them to be the most strident, dogmatic, and pure in issues of dogma.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (dciA+)

189 What the hell is "The Online Right"

Is there a password to get in? Do you need a credit card?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (zp+j1)

190 Posted by: Not From Here Or There at June 09, 2016 02:28 PM (G57fe)

A million times this.

There are still a bunch of ideas as to how Obama got reelected, but I think a lot of it was due to his celebrity and, for better or worse, there isn't a bigger celebrity at the moment than Trump.

If Trump gets people to go out and vote, he will win and win YUGE!! Because people are more likely to vote for someone they know than someone they don't. Now if you're uber-partisan, you already know the candidates anyway, and your vote was going one way anyway. But for the LIVs and the undecideds, knowing about Trump for as many years as he's been in the public eye, it helps.

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (78OXS)

191 107----He's "liberal" because he doesn't think spending a bazillion dollars on the war on drugs is a good idea. Never mind that he wants to cut taxes (0% corp tax), get the feds out of education, slash regulations. None of that matters. He wants to legalize pot, so he's a commie.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM
--------------------
Right. That's the only problem with that ticket.
Well, if it IS, you should support it and vote for it.

As for me, I'll pass on the wide-open-borders, the gun-grabbing VP, and the typically leftist assault on religious liberty and free speech --- not to mention the holy "right" to carve up full-term babies in the womb and sell their parts for profit.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (T/5A0)

192 The party was founded on one thing. Ridding the country of slavery. The party did well (at least at the Presidential level) when it was centered on one thing - defeating communism. Are we just in a point of history where there isn't one thing that is uniting the party together? The left's one goal allows for it to achieve more, because its goal is simply to expand government. That allows for a lot of groups to be paid off.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (gmeXX)

193 Here's the previously mentioned and excellent Crudele article form the Post.

http://tinyurl.com/zao9ucs

Hillary partisans like to say Obama is at 51% popularity, higher than any departing president since Reagan. This reflects ony his personal magnetism, because simultaneously, two thirds of the voters say the country is on the wrong track. That's also a near record.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (/m8T6)

194
I think that a lot of people that we don't usually think of as going GOP are actually going to get on the 'Trump Train', or at least, more then anyone can yet guess.

I get that sense as well. But quietly, without admitting it to others, mostly. Hillary is so incredibly toxic and unlikable, I think many people are just horrified that she could possibly be the nominee. And I think Trump's reality show approach appeals to most non-political people.

That's why they are trying so hard to make him seem racist to voters, because that's the one thing that will turn people off right now. If he can beat that? Who knows.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (39g3+)

195 puff up their own Virtue Reserves.

Oh great, another
Euphemism to remember.

is that male competition begins
I submit the prior sentence as my 1st entry in this threads dick joke contest.

Posted by: DaveA at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (DL2i+)

196 190 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (zp+j1)

#TCOT buddy....

they self-identify....

A lot of TCOT literally sleeps with the enemy pay wise.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (g8Hfr)

197 Pretty much i've declared myself persona non grata, which is fine by me, because I've decided that I literally despise most of thse people and could not have less respect for them if I actually worked at it for three weeks using yoga and meditation to lower my respect to medically undetectable levels.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (dciA+)

I remember when Jeff Goldstein was frozen out. Probably one of the best writers on the internet. You're doing the right thing.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (Zs4uk)

198 I still say the best thing to do is vote your conscience, and the polls be damned.

They could be right.

They could be wrong.

Does it really change anything about how you are going to vote?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (3ZoRf)

199 "Oliver Willis

If Trump wins Maryland I will eat an entire crab. I am allergic to crab and I'd probably die.

BRB - looking at rentals in Annapolis and voting registration deadlines.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix"

Don't waste your vote here in Maryland. The Dems took 2014 for granted which let Hogan thankfully get through. That won't happen this year. The turnout machines in PG, Montgomery and Baltimore will be on full blast.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (OD2ni)

200 Since we know the GOP has no problem with losing, why wouldn't they want to lose with Trump instead of losing with one of their golden boys? Then they could wag their fingers at the base & say "See? We told you so!"

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (7HtZB)

201 " I wonder what that means, in the end?
The End."

*all grabs our asses*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (3vqvE)

202 "Others defended Glenn Beck's and Brad Thor's assassination fantasies and wailed when Beck was suspended from Sirius."

Poor Glenn. Here he went and got all deeply personally invested in belief in the imminent White Horse Prophecy, and then what happens?

We instead get the Horse's Ass Prophecy.

No wonder Glenn is off the rails psychologically. Call the nut hut, stat.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (noWW6)

203 Being pelted with an egg is a just a monthly prank

Posted by: Paul Ryan's Cervix at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (10hEu)

204 I'm shocked at how quickly pundits went crazy and demanded Trump not be the candidate. They didn't even use sense enough to step back and review what really happened and determine crying RACIST!!! NEW CANDIDATE!!! was idiotic.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (U+nHb)

205 Why does Bill Krystal think he gets to pick the R nominee?

??

Posted by: Yo! at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (GwIKd)

206 Twitter is a ghetto of White Smugness.

It "represents" nothing.

I give negative 5 billion shits about what anyone says on Twitter.

And guess what: Most Trump voters give a similar number of shits about Twitter, pundits, the self-appointed "thought leaders" of our "culture."

Poll are conducted by college-age white smug unemployable asswipes, and fewer and fewer of real people respond to them, or give honest answers to them.

As a result, polls are utterly inaccurate and worth nothing.

Ooooh, the commentariat disingenuously announces that Trump WILL lose because in fact they're just announcing this "fact" because they WANT him to lose, as a way of virtue-signaling to their fellow smug intellectuals that they aren't sullied with prole cooties.

Fuck 'em all. In particular.

Posted by: zombie at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (jBuUi)

207 who can shout the most

Isn't it at least somewhat entertaining that the NRO squad are the ones being ignored at last.

Posted by: DaveA at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (DL2i+)

208 Latest Poll from Reuters: The Cunt +8

Run for the Hills!!!!!

Sample size:
781 Democrats
593 Republicans

I don't want to go all 2012 and start unskweing polls...but give me a fucking break.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (0LHZx)

209 I'm shocked at how quickly pundits went crazy and demanded Trump not be the candidate.

Are you really?

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (O7MnT)

210 That's what she is, literally, running on. Historic First and nostalgia for the 90's.
Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:41 PM (O7MnT)

In that case, we could nominate a Furby for President.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (7HtZB)

211 What about the Irish lawyers bowling league?

Posted by: Trace at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (IqV8l)

212 IMMIGRATION,AMNESTY, OPEN BORDERS!
This is it. This is what the voters know the election is all about.
The "smart set" thought they could just do what they've always done, give lip service to border control, and then just lie once they got into office and stab the voters in the back. We've had enough. Trump is the only one, on either side of the aisle, who will stop the illegal immigration.
The GOP have believed their own bs that if it is trump vs Hillary, it will be okay because there is no way he can win and they will get their open borders. Maybe they are apoplectic now because they see he can win. Everyone I know, regardless of party, is voting for him.
I never thought I would vote republican in my life but someone needs to take on the democratic/media/GOPestablishment party for the people, and Trump stepped up to the plate. And to all of you "constitutionalists" out there, remember, when there's no border, the constitution is an afterthought.

Posted by: Flowerbelle at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (XBEp5)

213 211 Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (7HtZB)

We did....imagine Duh Donald in the morning before he gets his gameface on.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)

214 "Oliver Willis

If Trump wins Maryland I will eat an entire crab. I am allergic to crab and I'd probably die."

Will I be charged as an accessory?

Posted by: Old Bay at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (OD2ni)

215 These people on Twitter that are "opinion leaders" of the right are largely just talking to themselves if it makes you feel any better. I'm sure Trump underperforms in DC, but that's about it.

As an example, Camile Paglia was a Giant of the Left, and she has been increasingly honest about figures like Hillary, but how many liberal voters do you really think she'll sway?

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (GbrzM)

216
So the guy washing my hair, Asian, lots of tattoos, (presumably) gay, starts talking to me, tentatively at first... about Trump, and how much he likes him.

The gay Hispanic guy that got his nose busted at the Trump event in San Jose said it was much easier for him when he came out as gay than it wasfor him to come out as a Trump supporter

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (lKyWE)

217 As ever, as the child of upper middle class parents and as someone who graduated from a decent private university (not an Ivy, of course, but a decent enough school), I am a man without a home, huddling by the ideological sewer grates, burning newspapers for warmth. Spare some bitcoin change, guvnah?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (kumBu)

218 108 Twitter is a sewer.

Life is a sewer, and we're all just kernels of corn attached to a fatberg.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

219 I am not saying you are wrong, but the same cry was thrown out in '12- "the polls must be wrong."

I'm not saying the polls are wrong now, I dunno. I'm noting with absolute accuracy that nearly every single poll taken was wrong when it came to the primary elections. It was uncanny. Sometimes they were off by double digits.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (39g3+)

220
1. She has a vag.

Allegedly.

2. She is married to Bill.

The rapist.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (vP09u)

221 Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (O7MnT)

------

Well, no. I knew racist and sexist was going to be thrown around no matter the candidate, but I assumed it would be from the left.

But I was shocked at Hewitt's idiocy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (U+nHb)

222 >>>201 Since we know the GOP has no problem with losing, why wouldn't they want to lose with Trump instead of losing with one of their golden boys? Then they could wag their fingers at the base & say "See? We told you so!"

this is a real thing they talk about -- they've discussed it from me. I talk to different people; many are on the RINO-y, NeverTrump side. But this idea -- that we'll give Those People such a resounding loss they'll realize how stupid they are and how much they need us -- is a popular one, and they have no shame or hesitation about expressing it publicly.

It's a widely-shared idea.

In fairness, EVERYONE has this fantasy -- Those losers will lose so bad without me they'll come crawling on their knees begging my forgiveness!

So they're not like bad people for thinking this. Everyone has this fantasy. EVERYONE. (I have it like eight times a day.)

But yeah, this idea is out there, and isn't even kept secret like a guilty thought. It's just casually offered.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (dciA+)

223 I don't want to go all 2012 and start unskweing polls...but give me a fucking break.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:43 PM (0LHZx)

As I mentioned earlier, CNN was reporting that up to today, Trump had 68 million of negative advertising run against him. Hillary had none.

Not one dollar over the course of the primaries was spent on a negative ad against Hillary.

That shit changes now.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (Zs4uk)

224 Nominate ME instead. I will unite the party and bring so many new voters into the fold after I Amnesty them

Yes, some of them will vote democrat.

OK most.

Thank you for my service

Posted by: Paul Ryan's Baby Carrot at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (10hEu)

225 Troll.

Dull troll.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (vP09u)

226 CA is gone for good.

Posted by: GnuBreed

I wonder if we would cede CA back to MX and seal the border, in order to ensure a long period of conservative dominance?

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (LAe3v)

227 Yeah if the Federalist podcast continues to run with 'Trump-is-racist
because of La Raza judge' thing today I will unsubscribe. They said
that it was a different La Raza, which I don't know."

Trump has been in the public eye for 30 years and wasn't called a racist until he ran against a Democrat.

Posted by: Cheri at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (oiNtH)

228 If Gary Johnson looks shell-shocked, he's either high or he just watched a dancing fat man in a thong.

Posted by: BourbonChicken, Protector of Ancient Memes at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (VdICR)

229

Yesterday I mentioned how unhinged the blogosphere has become (or the day before, who knows).

The NRO were first out of the bat-sh*t crazy gate.
Drudge, goes without saying.
Breitbart.
The Right Scoop.
The Gateway Pundit.

All have taken sides, and all are losing their minds.

I'm not talking about the commenters there. They take their lead from the bloggers. It's the actual bloggers and "Moderators" on the sites who attack the commenters if they try to pose an opposing view.

If only they would attack Hillary with such venom. Or Obama. Or Pelosi. Or Reid. Or Holder. Any of them over the years. What I'm seeing now is a force that we conservatives have been craving to see against the enemy, the Democrats, but instead, since we gave up on them, they redirect it to us.

Hence, Trump.

Now you show your fire, but sorry, it won't work.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (qCMvj)

230 I think that a lot of people that we don't usually think of as going GOP are actually going to get on the 'Trump Train', or at least, more then anyone can yet guess.
Posted by: Hammer BT at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (y0xhc)

-----------------

As I was driving to do some shopping a bit ago, I noticed the cars in front of the house where a Messican family lives all have Trump stickers on them.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (Fmupd)

231 I remember when Jeff Goldstein was frozen out. Probably one of the best writers on the internet. You're doing the right thing.
Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (Zs4uk)

JeffG is neverTrump and has written quite well about it. I agree with him, although I MAY and up voting for the orange troll in the end. I'm not in a swing state anyway, so my vote doesn't matter much.

Posted by: stace at June 09, 2016 02:47 PM (ozZau)

232 "All of these Trumpists here. "

Sorry, that was me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:47 PM (3vqvE)

233
like that idiot congressman a few years ago said, when we had the draft people from different cultures were stuck together and had to work together.

I don't want to force people who don't like each other to associate but what if the problems we're having today are happening because it's so easy to only associate with like-minded people?

Posted by: ArthurK at June 09, 2016 02:47 PM (h53OH)

234 "The stench of trash is overpowering.

Posted by: Maurice w. at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (kE1v4) "

Thank GOD you're here to save us from them with cogent analysis like this. Did you bring enough fainting couches for the whole blog?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 02:47 PM (kumBu)

235 "Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:29 PM (O7MnT)

It's a toss, but whatever the outcome, one individual vote is unlikely to make a difference."

Around 200 people who decided "f*ck it" rather than wait in line in Florida ca. 2000 might disagree with you.

Posted by: furious at June 09, 2016 02:47 PM (8lw4l)

236 213 All of these Trumpists here.
The stench of trash is overpowering.
Posted by: Maurice w. at June 09, 2016 02:44 PM (kE1v4)

The hoity-toity book thread is on Sunday. See you then.

Posted by: BourbonChicken, Protector of Ancient Memes at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (VdICR)

237 Enemies of Humanity

Amended List

1. Islamists
2. Communists
3. Crypto-communists
4. Useful idiots
5. SJW mobs
6. Conservative pundits
7. International crime syndicates and cartels
8. Petty criminals
9. "The Establishment"
10. People I don't like.

Posted by: zombie at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (jBuUi)

238 228 Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (LAe3v)

Assuming we lose that is entirely what I intend to do with Plan B.

The GOP Gentry will have shown that "fuck you" said to me is more important than my desires.

If I can't have constructive reform by a positive use of my vote, I will use the destructive reform of my nagtive use of the vote.

Nominate the craziest most racist hispanic you can find.

Send Cali Home.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (g8Hfr)

239 I wonder if we would cede CA back to MX and seal the border, in order to ensure a long period of conservative dominance?

I'm pretty much at peace with the Reconquista. I sorta wish they would take it back.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (O7MnT)

240 In fairness, EVERYONE has this fantasy -- Those losers will lose so bad without me they'll come crawling on their knees begging my forgiveness!

That fantasy is particularly common among 8 year olds mad at their parents. "I'll die rather than eat broccoli, and they they'll be sad".

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (LAe3v)

241
206 Why does Bill Krystal think he gets to pick the R nominee?

It's either him or George Will. Take your pick.

Posted by: wooga at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (BJP8X)

242 162 I think it's like Obama's strongest argument: it makes the voter feel good about themselves for voting for the first ever "X" candidate (black, woman, whatever). It's the same impulse that drives these LIVs and Lefties to get offended on behalf of an "X" group of people - it makes them feel all virtuous, caring, noble and gives 'em a sense or moral superiority. It's all about the feelz.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (NOIQH)
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Broadly speaking then, it is what Ace was calling "virtue signaling" to vote for Obama. I am no racist!, they tell themselves, and voters happily pulled the lever in droves for the first president ever not to deliver at least one year of 3% growth.

Hillary does not have that argument going for her, I don't believe. She's been around so long running for president I don't get the sense the LIV's are falling for her gender as a reason to vote for her.

Maybe Bernie's greatest contribution was fighting so long and so hard, and poking holes in the gender inevitability argument.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (/m8T6)

243 Or maybe Paula Abdul could run for President, if all it takes is being a woman & having been popular in the 90s.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (7HtZB)

244 >>>Posted by: zombie at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (jBuUi)

11. Frank Stallone.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (O7MnT)

245 You know what this post need?

Kittens.

Kittens is what this post needs.

Here. I'm a giver.

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Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (mf5HN)

246 Seems mainly that the conservatarian (lol word) pundit class is caught up in a lot of minutaie that gut conservative voters don't necessarily give a shit about at this point.

Posted by: Observer at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (vFQCn)

247 Posted by: Hammer BT at June 09, 2016 02:37 PM (y0xhc)
***
Every last Chinese I know - and I know a lot of them - both FOB and ABC, say they're on the Trump Train.

My old boss - Madam, as we called her; daughter of a general under Chiang Kai-Shek - was a Trumpster more than a year ago.

"He loves America, and he hates our enemies," she said.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM (lutOX)

248 Posted by: Flowerbelle at June 09, 2016 02:45 PM (XBEp5)

Flower belle, you mentioned that you never thought you would ever vote for a republican, before Trump. May I ask you specifically what turned you off the Republican Party?

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (DLIpz)

249 <i>If only they would attack Hillary with such venom. Or Obama. Or
Pelosi. Or Reid. Or Holder. Any of them over the years. What I'm
seeing now is a force that we conservatives have been craving to see
against the enemy, the Democrats, but instead, since we gave up on them,
they redirect it to us.</i>

"You're just NOW noticing this?" -- Tea Party

Posted by: furious at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (8lw4l)

250 Ace, this is brilliant commentary and a spot on diagnosis! You are on a roll as of late. Have you had any medical training like myself?

Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (Y/VkU)

251 Sample size: 781 Democrats 593 Republicans I don't want to go all 2012 and start unskweing polls...but give me a fucking break. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Aren't both groups - those who self-identify as republican or democrat about 25% (each) of the entire voter base?

?????????????????? But they added an extra almost 10% democrats?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (ZnIt3)

252 178 "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"

Her heavenly voice?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM
-----------------------
YES!!!!
*swoon*

Posted by: Yoko Ono at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (T/5A0)

253 241 Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (O7MnT)

The Reconquista gives us permission to have a national divorce.

Juan Pablo Javier Lopez-Sanchez 2024!

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (g8Hfr)

254 >>Her point was that Trump has none of her achievements in foreign policy. If failure is an achievement she was awesome.

But she's had the MSM covering her butt, the public schools brainwashing kids for over a generation, and she's gotten so damn good at lying, that she can say something like that with confidence. Hell, maybe in her own little bubble hivemind she actually believes this - that if it wasn't for that Obama, or that stupid terrorist attack, or ISIS, or whatever - she's done an excellent job.

But yes, she should have been struck by lightening when bragging about her awesome foreign policy experience

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (NOIQH)

255 >>>

That fantasy is particularly common among 8 year olds mad at their parents. "I'll die rather than eat broccoli, and they they'll be sad".

come on, it's common to everyone.

you guys have all had the "being interviewed on tv about how awesome you are" fantasy too, haven't you?

Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (dciA+)

256
I don't want to force people who don't like each other to associate but what if the problems we're having today are happening because it's so easy to only associate with like-minded people?

Damned freedom of association!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (IqV8l)

257
I'm pretty much at peace with the Reconquista. I sorta wish they would take it back.

The Reconquista includes Texas

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (lKyWE)

258 except for V the K and a few others.

Um.... thanks?

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (O7MnT)

259 Good points on mono-cultures, ace.

Odd thing is, we do the exact same thing here to commentators that do not either follow agnosticism or complete obeisance to the Trump. I am thinking in particular of Chemjeff, stace (from last night), person, red(-something, banzai?) and a few others I cannot think of right now.

Now, I am usually of the opinion that it is just talking and people can defend themselves, but I do not think people realize when they shout down opposing opinions, they just end up 'purifying' their own side, turning them off from any further arguments the people make. Not to mention it also calcifies your own opinions and makes it harder for you to argue YOUR points if you never hear a dissenting voice.

This is true no matter what you are arguing, whether it be free speech, abortion, rule of law, or the clear superiority of the 1911 to a glock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (3ZoRf)

260 I am not saying you are wrong, but the same cry was thrown out in '12- "the polls must be wrong."

I'm not saying the polls are wrong now, I dunno. I'm noting with absolute accuracy that nearly every single poll taken was wrong when it came to the primary elections. It was uncanny. Sometimes they were off by double digits.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
___________

Well, they were "wrong" in 2012, just not in our direction. Gallup had Romney winning nationwide but the state by state polls were all in that "too close to call range".

But almost all the polls were "right" in the sense they fell in the margin of error which is all a poll promises to be.

Trump has though routinely outperformed his polling.

And most of the head to head numbers where Hillary is way far ahead of Trump also had people like Ted Cruz getting beat by nearly double digits as well.

Unless its something crazy like Hillary is up 12 the week before the election, I don't think polls are going to be as reliable as they used to be in predicting the winner.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (GbrzM)

261 "Every last Chinese I know - and I know a lot of them - both FOB and ABC, say they're on the Trump Train.

My old boss - Madam, as we called her; daughter of a general under Chiang Kai-Shek - was a Trumpster more than a year ago.

"He loves America, and he hates our enemies," she said."

Palpy you know a lot Asians.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (3vqvE)

262 Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

----------

You have different fantasies with Megyn Kelly than I do.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (gmeXX)

263 Troll is still dull.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (vP09u)

264 The Reconquista includes Texas

Yeah, good luck with that.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (O7MnT)

265 IMMIGRATION,AMNESTY, OPEN BORDERS!
This is it. This is what the voters know the election is all about.

Let's hope Trump doesn't forget that. Has he even mentioned the wall since April?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (39g3+)

266 255 178 "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"

Her heavenly voice?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM
-----------------------
YES!!!!
*swoon*

Posted by: Yoko Ono

Pure honey.

Posted by: Ethel Merman at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (LAe3v)

267 you guys have all had the "being interviewed on tv about how awesome you are" fantasy too, haven't you?

Actually, no. I don't like that kind of attention.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (0mRoj)

268 "If Ace took his trash out his blog would be empty.

We'll, except for V the K and a few others.

Posted by: Maurice w. at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (kE1v4) "

Sounds like you're offering to be culled first. I'm sure ace would be more than happy to oblige.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (kumBu)

269 Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (dciA+)

--------

Come on, Horde, let's make this happen.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (U+nHb)

270 269 255 178 "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"

Her heavenly voice?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM
-----------------------
YES!!!!
*swoon*

Posted by: Yoko Ono

Pure honey.

Posted by: Ethel Merman

OH MY GODDDD!!!!!

Posted by: Janice from Friends at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (LAe3v)

271 Isn't Curiel some kind of hand lotion?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 02:15 PM (IqV8l)
........................

Curel for the bi-curious?
BTW, put some on the other hand every once in a while.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 02:53 PM (HgMAr)

272 254
Aren't both groups - those who self-identify as republican or democrat about 25% (each) of the entire voter base?

?????????????????? But they added an extra almost 10% democrats?
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (ZnIt3)

_______

Depends who you ask, what survey, etc. But generally Dems are about 5% higher. So polls should have Dems a bit higher. But that sample size is more like a sample size of Hawaii or Oregon, not national sample size.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:53 PM (0LHZx)

273 >>>You have different fantasies with Megyn Kelly than I do.

oh it leads to shit. Like when Michael Hutchence was verbally raped by Bob Geldof's wife in a tv interview, you knew he was banging her later.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:53 PM (dciA+)

274 Again, I like twitter. Who you interact with on twitter is your decision. I like the art and history. I like hearing what is going on with people in other countries. I like being able to find out what happened withing seconds half way cross the world.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 02:53 PM (iQIUe)

275 260 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (lKyWE)

Eh "no"....

They may think it does, but Texas left on her own.

We bought a lot of land...

Send the Gadsden Purchase and California home.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:53 PM (g8Hfr)

276 People are making too much of Obama's "rising" popularity (51% big whoop) and how it relates to Killary's chances.

If his popularity is "rising", it's only because most people are aware that he's leaving office IN A FEW MONTHS.

It's like when you have a guest who as overstayed his welcome. The closer you get to the door to escort him out, the friendlier you get toward him. You might even muster a hug and a "I love you, bro" because he's about to FUCKING LEAVE.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (JKV9L)

277 nah just kidding not megyn kelly, she turns me off now.

but someone desirable.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (dciA+)

278 There is a divide between Right and Left, but there is a greater divide between Us and Them.

Trump has revealed this to be so.

Thus the howling as the masks are removed.

Posted by: eman at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (mR7Es)

279 The Reconquista includes Texas

Yeah, good luck with that.
Posted by: V the K

We still remember The Alamo.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (BoFYZ)

280 201 Since we know the GOP has no problem with losing, why wouldn't they want to lose with Trump instead of losing with one of their golden boys? Then they could wag their fingers at the base & say "See? We told you so!"
Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 02:42 PM (7HtZB)

What makes some opposed to that is going back to ace's social signaling aspects. That Trump is abhorrent to them. So they don't even want to lose with him. They certainly don't want to win with him.

They'd rather lose with Paul Ryan than win with Trump, because Paul Ryan would do things the "proper" way.

Also with Trump as the nominee rather than one of the preferred Establishment tools they won't get to insult the base for being the ones that stayed home and "cost us the election."

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (z/Ubi)

281 Aren't both groups - those who self-identify as republican or democrat about 25% (each) of the entire voter base?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (ZnIt3)
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A January '15 Gallup poll showed 29% dem, 26% repube.

If you take the supposed 25% of the repubes (the upper middle class fleeing Trump to vote for Hilarity), then...

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (NUqwG)

282 273 269 255 178 "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"

Her heavenly voice?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 09, 2016 02:40 PM
-----------------------
YES!!!!
*swoon*

Posted by: Yoko Ono

Pure honey.

Posted by: Ethel Merman

OH MY GODDDD!!!!!
Posted by: Janice from Friends at June 09, 2016 02:52 PM (LAe3v)

Akkk! Akkk! Akk!

Posted by: Mars Attacks at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (7HtZB)

283 "What's Hillary's strongest argument for election?"
..................

Her queefs.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (HgMAr)

284 But yeah, this idea is out there, and isn't even kept secret like a guilty thought. It's just casually offered.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:46 PM (dciA+)

Because there are many in the supposed intelligentsia on the Right that have less of a grasp on human nature and how to persuade people and the finer points of social skills than I do.

Ponder that, Horde. Ponder. That.

As I've noted before, at least when the bastard ex comes slithering back around to cadge some gas money, I get flattered and fucked in the good way first.

I bring this up for no reason at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (mf5HN)

285 Well, if you are going to git back after it I'll probably sign back up.

I do miss Drew and John.

Posted by: JB at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (R4z9F)

286 maurice w. has left the blog to go back to his regular job of eating out men's assholes under the bridge.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (dciA+)

287 "The Reconquista includes Texas"

*Guns up.* I know a lot of Hispanics who don't lie illegals. They are interlopers.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (3vqvE)

288 This is remarkable election. The Republicans have nominated a faux-populist. The Democrats have nominated the ghost of Evita Peron. The Libertarians are running a pair of liberal Republicans.

Interesting times.
Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:17 PM (O7MnT)

If we could all come together, we could be smoking pot while watching illegals cross over the border, being paid, to build the wall.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (qCMvj)

289 *decides to not comment in this thread*

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (fc/KF)

290 >>Maybe Bernie's greatest contribution was fighting so long and so hard, and poking holes in the gender inevitability argument.

Good point. I agree that many on the Left do not love Clinton, not at all. But how many are willing to admit that she is worse than Trump? Even Susan Sarandon, who said this publicly recently, will likely still vote for the Dem candidate.

The GOP candidate du jour = Hitler/stupidest person evah brainwashing is strong on the Left. That's one thing they are very good at: inoculating their candidate's weaknesses by making the GOP candidate Hitler's (latest) incarnation.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (NOIQH)

291 "Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:50 PM (dciA+) "

I usually just have the fantasy about being asked how it feels to be the first man on Mars that also won Gold Medals in the 110m hurdles, 400m freestyle, and Sexual Intercourse.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (kumBu)

292 On a much more somber note, these times in which a divide exists between the Capitol Conservatives and the rest of the GOP appears A LOT like the divide between coastal elites and the agrarians in the 13 Colonies in the years leading up to the First Continental Congress. Strangely, there was also a ethnic/ class divide of sorts. The coastal gentry were largely English while the agrarians were largely Scottish and Irish.

You saw a similar divide within the Gambinos when Paul Castellano took over. There were clearly two factions, the blue collar guys represented by Bergin Hunt and Fish Club and the one represented by Castellano's aspirations to be "corporate" and refined. Once Aniello Dellacroce died, the blue collar guys led by John Gotti took action.

A wise man once said "History repeats itself but mofos don't pay attention."

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (H7qBA)

293 People are making too much of Obama's "rising" popularity (51% big whoop) and how it relates to Killary's chances.

If his popularity is "rising", it's only because most people are aware that he's leaving office IN A FEW MONTHS.

It's like when you have a guest who as overstayed his welcome. The closer you get to the door to escort him out, the friendlier you get toward him. You might even muster a hug and a "I love you, bro" because he's about to FUCKING LEAVE.
Posted by: JoeF

Agreed, and Obama has largely not been a target so he hasn't received much scrutiny lately.

Even before 9/11, Bush had something like a 60% approval rating even after such a contentious election where he lost the popular vote.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (GbrzM)

294 "who can shout the most extreme version of this stupid cult creed that no one thought about for more than two minutes before accepting as God's Transmitted Truth"?

ok that made me laugh right there.

Well...except for the how dangerous it is part.

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (fYChk)

295 I know a lot of Hispanics who don't lie illegals. They are interlopers.

I feel like most Texas Hispanics are more American than most Anglo-Californicans.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (O7MnT)

296 As long as Ace's fantasies don't include after interview with Candy Crowley----bridge too far.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (U+nHb)

297 Nominate the craziest most racist hispanic you can find.

Send Cali Home.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:48 PM (g8Hfr)

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OMG, my platoon sgt, 2007-2009.

Born and bread in Corpus Christi, hates illegals with the heat of a billion tamales.

Crazy he has in spades.

Being his gunner/driver/TC (sometimes, he liked to drive...) was an exercise in terror, yet so much fun.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (rlfds)

298
Isn't Curiel some kind of hand lotion?

I think it was for finger nails

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (lKyWE)

299 this is a real thing they talk about -- they've discussed it from me. I talk to different people; many are on the RINO-y, NeverTrump side. But this idea -- that we'll give Those People such a resounding loss they'll realize how stupid they are and how much they need us -- is a popular one, and they have no shame or hesitation about expressing it publicly.

Did it work when McCain lost. Did the people who backed him decide that his loss meant they had to come up with a different sort of nominee? Just the opposite. They doubled down and went with Romney.

If Trump loses, haw can the #NeverTrumpers think that Trump supporters will blame themselves or rump himself? Trump's supporters will blame the saboteurs.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (R+30W)

300 "The Reconquista includes Texas"

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They have been saying that for years.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)

301 289 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (fc/KF)

You know I'll always love you in a platonic brotherly way Ms Puma...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (g8Hfr)

302 >>Akkk! Akkk! Akk!

Posted by: Mars Attacks

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (NOIQH)

303 It's all rape from here on out as far as the naked eye can see.

Posted by: Fritz at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (UzPAd)

304 277 nah just kidding not megyn kelly, she turns me off now.

but someone desirable.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (dciA+)

You're no longer smitten by her icy blue Aryan gaze and ass of a young Kiefer Sutherland?

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (z/Ubi)

305 If you take the supposed 25% of the repubes (the upper middle class fleeing Trump to vote for Hilarity), then...
Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (NUqwG)

____

But isn't their stance that they won't vote Trump but they will also not vote Hillary?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (0LHZx)

306 >>>
I usually just have the fantasy about being asked how it feels to be the first man on Mars that also won Gold Medals in the 110m hurdles, 400m freestyle, and Sexual Intercourse.

i have been asked in my interviews what made me decide the three minute mile was a bitch and needed to be slapped like a bitch

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (dciA+)

307 Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

I'm pretty sure that's not the Standard Moron Megyn Fantasy.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (9krrF)

308 "maurice w. has left the blog to go back to his regular job of eating out men's assholes under the bridge.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (dciA+) "

I heard he pulled a jaw muscle and has been on disability for a few months.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (kumBu)

309 "maurice w. has left the blog to go back to his regular job of eating out men's assholes under the bridge."

Well, I guess if that's his thing. Not my thing. Don't do it near my house.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (3vqvE)

310 I am not so much pro-Trump as I am anti-Hillary and he is the vessel.
She is a grating bitch of no achievement without BJ's coattails. No, we won't be in camps or forced to bake tranny congratulation cakes, but if she does for gender relations what Obama's done for race relations, then my bunker will be filled to the rafters with liquor, guns, ammo and industrial quantities of hand lotion. Plus my fear of being kicked in the balls increases.

So let's keep our shit together. You're supposed to freak out after the rout, not before.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (QkA3o)

311 Also that Reuters poll...16% of "Republicans" approve Obama. So not only did they have 30% more Dems than Reps in the sample, they also found every liberal Republican in the land.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (0LHZx)

312 302 >>Akkk! Akkk! Akk!

Posted by: Mars Attacks

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (NOIQH)

They blew up Congress! Ahh hahahahahaaaa!!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (0mRoj)

313 As I mentioned earlier, CNN was reporting that up to today, Trump had 68 million of negative advertising run against him. Hillary had none.

Not one dollar over the course of the primaries was spent on a negative ad against Hillary.

That shit changes now.
Posted by: jwest
..............
And Trump also had about $100 Million in free coverage.. the media follows him around like little lost dogs.. Hillary? crickets at her speeches...

"Not one dollar over the course of the primaries was spent on a negative ad against Hillary. "

That number is patently and obviously stupid.. Bernie spent tens of millions trashing her Wall St ties..

Geezus.. the Kool-Aide really does make you guys lose touch with reality..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (so+oy)

314 I usually just have the fantasy about being asked how it feels to be the first man on Mars that also won Gold Medals in the 110m hurdles, 400m freestyle, and Sexual Intercourse.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean

I told them it felt pretty damn good.

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (LAe3v)

315 My fantasy involving Megan Kelly don't involve a whole lot of question and answer time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (/tuJf)

316 Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

In mine there's a camera but it's not for broadcast and Megyn is telling me just how much tension she likes on the shackles.

Basically the same.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (1xUj/)

317 "Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

And then she takes her glasses off and playfully chews the end of the earpiece.

amirite?

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (fYChk)

318 >>>You're no longer smitten by her icy blue Aryan gaze and ass of a young Kiefer Sutherland?

no, I can't take her smugness, and I especially can't take her "being funny." Like most attractive women, she's not funny, but men say "Oh you're funny" as a socially-acceptable alternative to "I want to be in you."

if she would stop trying to be funny and just do the news and ask the questions I could tolerate her again.

but the "trying to be funny and not being funny" is a huge turn off to me.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (dciA+)

319 "The Reconquista includes Texas"

*Guns up.* I know a lot of Hispanics who don't lie illegals. They are interlopers.

Too easy to take their job. Cheaper.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (BoFYZ)

320 I dunno - I tried being a part of a differently-thinking group in an effort to keep myself from being intellectually homogenous, but I was expelled in short order because I was a heretic.

So I agree, yeah, on paper it's a good thing to want to expand your horizons, stop being trapped in dogmatic thinking, and all of that...but I think these days that's a culture shift and it's just not going to happen. We are in definite tribe mode, kind of like a prison gang, banding together for mutual protection against The Other.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (PFy0L)

321 See, if Trump knew this judge was a member of a La Raza, he should've led with that instead of the Mexican crap. Its good that its out now, but it doesn't have the impact. But who knows, maybe Trump can shine a spotlight on those racists and do some good.

Nope, wrong analysis.

How many LIV know what the hell La Raza is? How many LIV know that Trump's positions on illegals coming from mexio is, and therefore can tie "hey, mexican judge -> trump has said he want's to stop the illegals from mexico" to "hey, maybe Trump is right.".

Posted by: GMan at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (sxq57)

322 "As I mentioned earlier, CNN was reporting that up to today, Trump had 68
million of negative advertising run against him. Hillary had none. Not one dollar over the course of the primaries was spent on a negative ad against Hillary. That shit changes now."

Except that the underfunded Trump will get outspent five to one on ads.

Aaaaaaaaaaand how that's going to work out is that a panicked Trump will get serious about raising money to fight back only *after* all of the key ad slots in the key media markets in the swing states have already been booked solid by Clintonworld, flush with cash from the get-go.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (noWW6)

323 287, true. And Trump was talking about Mexicans, not "Latinos." Puerto Ricans and Dominicans and other Hispanics are not really hot and bothered about that. It doesn't mean they'll vote for Trump--but it doesn't mean they are going to run to Hillary either.
And don't underestimate the power of "pure" celebrity among many groups. Didn't Ahnold get a lot of Mexican-American support --especially male--when he ran for governor of Commiefornia?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (JKV9L)

324 Ace: "Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet."

In my fantasy I remove the black velvet ribbon around her neck and her head rolls away screaming NeverTrump! NeverTrump!

Posted by: Edgar Allen Poe at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (X4FeV)

325 313 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 09, 2016 02:58 PM (so+oy)

Bwahaha....Barney Zanders refused to go for her nuts on Benghazi and the Toilet server...

trying to out SJW her is hardly an attack.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (g8Hfr)

326 If Trump loses, it will be personality issues and gaffes, it's not going to be the platform he ran on.

So the "dream" of an open borders, free trade, neocon Republican Party will still be dead even if Trump loses to Hillary.

Also, I would bet BIG money that even if Trump loses, he outperforms McCain.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (GbrzM)

327 Quislings, all of them!!!

Posted by: blogforce one at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (CG+Mw)

328 "Conservatarian, lol word"

"Conservakin" is funnier

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (1XE/7)

329 So, after 60 years of inculcating the population with Marxist thought, we're all about to fracture on lines of race and class?

You don't say!

Posted by: LawLurker at June 09, 2016 02:20 PM (bq0pK)
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Thank you!
It is bad enough when I hear that drivel from so-called 'leftists', but to hear it from 'rightists' is the end.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (MIKMs)

330 we can be having the most mundane conversation here and somebody who hates trump will interject their hatred of trump into that conversation. every time. so it isn't that group think has silenced long time commenters here, chemjeff, etc. it's that they don't know when to not troll everyone. just take an occasional breath.

Posted by: nckate at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (0v9xI)

331 Clemenza was right. You need to have a war every once in a while to get rid of the bad blood.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (FtrY1)

332 *Guns up.* I know a lot of Hispanics who don't lie illegals. They are interlopers.

I'm going to a wedding this month of a Hispanic new citizen who hates the illegals. It's gonna hurt my checkbook and I lose a summer Sunday but he's a helluva great guy.

Came through the front door, went to class, learned the language, passed the test.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (ZnIt3)

333 He was a most-loved platoon daddy in the brigade.

But lordy, we (yeah, he'd drag my ass to these wonderful ass-chewings) were called on the carpet on a regular basis, but since we were going outside the wire every day, and they liked to get to their destinations with their limbs intact, they couldn't do much.

Counseling statements? Pfft.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (rlfds)

334 no, I can't take her smugness, and I especially can't take her "being funny." Like most attractive women, she's not funny, but men say "Oh you're funny" as a socially-acceptable alternative to "I want to be in you."

if she would stop trying to be funny and just do the news and ask the questions I could tolerate her again.

but the "trying to be funny and not being funny" is a huge turn off to me.

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I completely agree. I hate her laughing at herself.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (gmeXX)

335 "and ass of a young Kiefer Sutherland? "

That was long ago, yet so new. Still fun.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (3vqvE)

336 but the "trying to be funny and not being funny" is a huge turn off to me.

Oh, you'll laugh all right. **cracks whip**

Posted by: Megyn, She-Wolf of the SS at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (LAe3v)

337 Palpy you know a lot Asians.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 02:51 PM (3vqvE)
***
Yes, I do. Worked at a university where better than half the students were Chinese - ROC and PRC, in about equal portions, with a few others thrown in for good measure - for about 15 years, and the leadership were all Chinese of the Older Generation - Madam's father, whose funeral I attended, was cremated, and his ashes stored in a monument in Taipei along with those of Generalissimo Chiang and all his general staff, to be buried in their home villages when the homeland is free.

All the faculty there were Chinese, now I work for a Korean company here in town.

How it happened, I have no idea - I just sort of fell into it, to the point that the dudes at the banh mi shop know how I like my sammiches.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (lutOX)

338 277 nah just kidding not megyn kelly, she turns me off now.

but someone desirable.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (dciA+)

We understand. Megyn can be a bit intimidating.

Should you find yourself out for drinks with her after a podcast, be dominant and self assured. Give her a good slap on the ass and let her know that yes, you will cum in her mouth.

She'll respect you for it.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (Zs4uk)

339 302 >>Akkk! Akkk! Akk!

Posted by: Mars Attacks

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM (NOIQH)

*plays song*

https://youtu.be/HBuk1HXcz1k

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (z/Ubi)

340 O/T (kinda?)

The end must surely be nigh. Dogs must surely be sleeping with cats. This endorsement totally surprised me.

Roseanne endorses Donald Trump (via TheHill)

http://bit.ly/1Uj00rS

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (+FSld)

341 Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (dciA+)
______________________

I could pull some strings, probably get you on the View...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (HSmrB)

342 Aaaaaaaaaaand how that's going to work out is that a panicked Trump will get serious about raising money to fight back only *after* all of the key ad slots in the key media markets in the swing states have already been booked solid by Clintonworld, flush with cash from the get-go.
Posted by: torquewrench

Money is definitely important, but I will say I think TV ads in the world of DVRs, Netflix, and the internet is largely irrelevant, yet where most campaign money is still spent.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (GbrzM)

343 Regarding Ace's epic screed in the sidebar about the Fat book thing, another good book to read I have heard is: Wheat Belly, by William Davis, MD (cardiologist). Have not read it, mind, but I have heard it is very good and very accurate.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (CPN/h)

344 but men say "Oh you're funny" as a socially-acceptable alternative to "I want to be in you."

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I know completely understand the ugly looks I get at dinner parties.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (U+nHb)

345 Lots of Texans like my platoon sgt...

They can try that shit here if they want.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (rlfds)

346 Geezus.. the Kool-Aide really does make you guys lose touch with reality..

The Jonestown Cult actually drank 'Flavor-Aid,' not Kool-Aid.

Posted by: The Guy Who Makes Nit-Picky Corrections as though they Undermine Your Main Point at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (O7MnT)

347 318 Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 02:59 PM (dciA+)

I dislike her cycle of batting her eyelashes at the left when her contract is coming up which coincidentally is concurrent with the Presidential Election Cycle....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (g8Hfr)

348 249
Every last Chinese I know - and I know a lot of them - both FOB and ABC, say they're on the Trump Train.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 02:49 PM
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Weird.
My Taiwanese SIL and her two besties (both Chinese) are pro-Trump too.
SIL voted for Obama in 2008.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

349 " the same cry was thrown out in '12- "the polls must be wrong."

A big difference between Mittens and Trump is that fights back. Whether or not he fights back efficiently is a matter of debate, but Trump is not submissively mewling "The President is right", or letting Fatass Crowley piss in his face.

A second difference is the perception that one of the things he will do is stop illegal immigration. Again, whether or not he will do so can be debated, but Trump is at least addressing an issue which matters to America in contrast to the 2012 Mittens.

The things you can't know until the votes have been counted:
How successful will the democong "get out the cheat" effort be?
Will Trump counter the fraud voting?
How many dem voters cross over to vote for Trump, EVEN IF NOT the down ticket?
Will blacks sit out in what numbers? ( If the demong dont get a good crop out of their welfare-voting plantations, they traditionally lose that election)

Posted by: Grad School Fool at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (swEzU)

350 284 Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 09, 2016 02:55 PM (mf5HN)
---------------------------------------------------

Do I love reading AtC's posts? Yes, yes I do. Plus, she is right thinking on baseball.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (/m8T6)

351 You're no longer smitten by her icy blue Aryan gaze and ass of a young Kiefer Sutherland?

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (z/Ubi)
................

We're gonna need a bigger ball gag.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (HgMAr)

352 I thought I read that Asians went 70% Democrat according to Exit polls.

You would think the one "minority" that would skew Republican would be Asians.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (GbrzM)

353 >>>
I completely agree. I hate her laughing at herself.

the laughing at one's own (not funny) jokes is the worst. Worse than the Holocaust -- easily.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (dciA+)

354 I'm going to a wedding this month of a Hispanic new citizen who hates the illegals. It's gonna hurt my checkbook and I lose a summer Sunday but he's a helluva great guy.

Came through the front door, went to class, learned the language, passed the test.

Ooh-rah!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (BoFYZ)

355 Aaaaaaaaaaand how that's going to work out is that a panicked Trump will get serious about raising money to fight back only *after* all of the key ad slots in the key media markets in the swing states have already been booked solid by Clintonworld, flush with cash from the get-go.

Posted by: torquewrench

Yeah, I'm not sure wall-to-wall Hillary will have the effect they expect.

Posted by: pep at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (LAe3v)

356 Aaaaaaaaaaand how that's going to work out is that a panicked Trump will get serious about raising money to fight back only *after* all of the key ad slots in the key media markets in the swing states have already been booked solid by Clintonworld, flush with cash from the get-go.
Posted by: torquewrench
............
Fox was reporting this morning he is more than 2 years behind Hillary in fundraising. He's starting out from square one.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (so+oy)

357 "Should you find yourself out for drinks with her after a podcast, be dominant and self assured. Give her a good slap on the ass and let her know that yes, you will cum in her mouth.

She'll respect you for it."
Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (Zs4uk)

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Really?

Huh.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (rlfds)

358 I completely agree. I hate her laughing at herself.

the laughing at one's own (not funny) jokes is the worst. Worse than the Holocaust -- easily.

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And let's be honest. She's voting for Hillary.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (gmeXX)

359 All of the pundits and commentators live in the BosNYWash Corridor or in LA. They are all talkers and writers. They are all college graduates. They relate to one another, marry one another, their kids attend the same schools and participate in the same activities.

Is it any wonder (as Ace noted with his earlier posting on the upper-middle class college educated mindset) that these people would all agree with each other? React like each other? Have the same taboos? Worship at the same shrines to the same gods?

These are Galapagos citizens, cut off from the mainstream of their own nations.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (hLRSq)

360 Weird.
My Taiwanese SIL and her two besties (both Chinese) are pro-Trump too.
SIL voted for Obama in 2008.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

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Unpossible, I have been assured by my betters at NRO, Red State, Weekly Standard and WSJ that only inbred whites who still use outhouses daily are Trump people.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (0LHZx)

361
But isn't their stance that they won't vote Trump but they will also not vote Hillary?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 02:57 PM (0LHZx)
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You are probably right regarding the analysis.

My assumption is the group is mythical. (No way 25% of upper middle class Republicans will take either approach, that is. Upper class Republicans might.)

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (NUqwG)

362 If Ace took his trash out his blog would be empty.

You got a problem with trash?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 09, 2016 03:04 PM (YEelc)

363 we'll give Those People such a resounding loss they'll realize how stupid they are and how much they need us

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I don't personally care if Trump wins. It's enough that the people you speak of suffer. And I want that to continue.

Do you see?

I feel like Ralph Fiennes posing naked in front of Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Red Dragon: Do.You.See?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 09, 2016 03:04 PM (Yjjjf)

364 360 Weird.
My Taiwanese SIL and her two besties (both Chinese) are pro-Trump too.
SIL voted for Obama in 2008.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

____

Unpossible, I have been assured by my betters at NRO, Red State, Weekly Standard and WSJ that only inbred whites who still use outhouses daily are Trump people.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (0LHZx)

It's an artisanal low-flow outhouse constructed from locally-sourced and sustainable materials, thank you very much.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:04 PM (0mRoj)

365 I'm not worried. Not that many actual voters on Twitter who are into this stuff. I am the only one in my close family and close friends who actually use Twitter on a regular basis. And I don't use it for political speech.

This is a subgroup of a subgroup.

Hillary will lose.

Start spreading this link around:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/clinton-emails-on-film#/

Posted by: K-E at June 09, 2016 03:05 PM (lDREP)

366 Like most attractive women, she's not funny, but men say "Oh you're funny" as a socially-acceptable alternative to "I want to be in you."

Posted by: ace

Always remember:

Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute.

Amazing how that still works, guaranteed, every time.

Posted by: zombie at June 09, 2016 03:05 PM (jBuUi)

367 Per the sidebar, "Stormfront of Sugar" is a good band name

Posted by: wooga at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (BJP8X)

368 358 I completely agree. I hate her laughing at herself.

the laughing at one's own (not funny) jokes is the worst. Worse than the Holocaust -- easily.

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And let's be honest. She's voting for Hillary.
Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:03 PM (gmeXX)

Vaginas gotta stick together. Wait, that didnt come out quite right...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0mRoj)

369 "You got a problem with trash?"

Ah, you know, trash gotta be hauled out. It's shitty, but, the wife ain't gonna do it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (3vqvE)

370 O/T but kinda not since it's Trump related...

yesterday I was watching futbol on Univision. And I had a bit of an epiphany. There's a reason why every other commercial now has the Hispanic family or dude or whatever in the lead. It's because they make the same commercial in Spanish with the same actors. Much easier and cheaper to do it that way than hire English and Spanish speaking actors. I saw a commercial for Miller Lite and the F150 that was the exact commercial I had seen before in English. Same actors, same dialogue basically, just in Spanish. And it was like LIGHT BULB!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0LHZx)

371 A woman voting for Hillary, I kind of get, a dumb, echo chamber woman.

But a man voting for Hillary, that, I do not understand. Mommy issues? Wife beats him? Hasn't come out yet?

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (U+nHb)

372 by the way, kurt schlicter on the podcast tonight (for tomorrow)

I don't know how bad we're going to get with trashing everyone else on the right

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)

373 Don't tell me I'm the only one that sometimes finds my stupid brain drifting into a fantasy interview where Megyn Kelly wants to know how it feels to be the It Man of the Internet.

The strange thing is that almost every author I've spoken to (including myself) shuns publicity and would rather be left alone. Success, yes. But not interviews, fame, etc. Like my books. Ignore me.

There are some that eat it up, of course. Stephen King, JK Rowling, GRR Martin, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

374 I have a Latino friend that votes Republican (sometimes) and his dad is all about Trump because of throwing out the illegals, even voting for him in the primary.

His younger son thinks Trump is a racist.

It will be interesting, but I do think immigration is a silent majority issue that can win in spite of Trump's insistence to say stupid shit.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (GbrzM)

375 It's an artisanal low-flow outhouse constructed from locally-sourced and sustainable materials, thank you very much.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:04 PM (0mRoj)
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That reminds me that I need to nominate flushless toilets for worst innovation ever. It's like an indoor outhouse.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (NUqwG)

376 "Sean Trende: The Groupthink of Rightist Commentary Has Become Unbearable and Frightening Lately"

Hearkening back to ace's long post the other day about breaking the Hollyweird habit, I found that when I first started commenting about my having done just that, what I got in response from certain quarters of the dextrosphere was... weird.

I found myself being denounced by ostensible conservatives as being a "cultural rejectionist", among other epithets.

So is vaguely Maoist-sounding terminology for internal enemies a thing on the right now? I guess that it is. So hard to keep up!

Back in 1992, the Democrats managed, in one of history's great switcheroos, to convince the country that red is the color of conservatism. Rather than the blue which it had traditionally previously been. And despite the long association of the color red with the left.

But hey, if we're red in color now, we better have Red Guards to go along with it. To police diligently against deviationism. Also, wreckers and kulaks. And it appears the Guards are donning their uniforms as we speak.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (noWW6)

377 330 we can be having the most mundane conversation here and somebody who hates trump will interject their hatred of trump into that conversation. every time. so it isn't that group think has silenced long time commenters here, chemjeff, etc. it's that they don't know when to not troll everyone. just take an occasional breath.
Posted by: nckate at June 09, 2016 03:00 PM (0v9xI)

I will admit, this pisses me off too. However,

This is a political blog until Ace says formally it isn't.

People react like the anti-Trump people are attacking their mothers. Last I looked we did not nominate Trump to be God Emperor of Dune.

Note, I am leaving out obvious troll, because fuck them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (3ZoRf)

378 The end must surely be nigh. Dogs must surely be sleeping with cats. This endorsement totally surprised me.

Roseanne endorses Donald Trump (via TheHill)

http://bit.ly/1Uj00rS

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 09, 2016 03:01 PM (+FSld)

Indeed. Joan Collins has risen from the grave . . .

http://tinyurl.com/BOC-Joan-Collins-Risen-Grave

/oblig.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (CPN/h)

379 It's not the trying to be funny and not funny that turns me off, it's the appearance of being in the process of 'transitioning' that sets my teeth on edge.

Transitioning to what? A strap on dominatrix?

Not sure who she wants to screw or what orifice.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (ZnIt3)

380 by the way, kurt schlicter on the podcast tonight (for tomorrow)

I don't know how bad we're going to get with trashing everyone else on the right

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)

Go big, or stay home.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (4ng05)

381 "Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute. "

If they're both cute and smart, call them dirty whores.

Always a winner.

Posted by: jwest at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (Zs4uk)

382
Always remember:

Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute.

Amazing how that still works, guaranteed, every time.

Not for me...I was always the guy that tried to put lines like that on the one SUPERTRUTH chick in the whole school.

"I know I'm not cute....FUCK YOU!!!!!!"

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (fYChk)

383 Screw Megan Kelly. My fantasy is that Candy Crowley comes out of ignominious forced retirement and interviews Trump at some point in this cycle, and that she finally gets the verbal bust in the side of the head she so richly deserves. For minutes that seem to her like hours, Trump will take her apart.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (/m8T6)

384 >>>
Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute.

Amazing how that still works, guaranteed, every time.

...

yeah... good advice... except... sometimes it doesn't work. some funny girls want to be told they're funny, oddly enough, for example.

you can't always guess where someone's insecurities lie. You might think it's in one area, but no, they're confident where you think they're insecure, and want compliments paid to a different area entirely.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (dciA+)

385 352 I thought I read that Asians went 70% Democrat according to Exit polls.

You would think the one "minority" that would skew Republican would be Asians.
Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (GbrzM)

____

In 2014 Asians went 50/50 Dem/Rep. There is hope. And once upon a time, not log ago Asians were voting 60/40 for Reagan.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (0LHZx)

386 But a man voting for Hillary, that, I do not understand. Mommy issues? Wife beats him? Hasn't come out yet?
Posted by: Seems Legit

I don't really understand any white male that is a liberal, but they're out there.

It would be like a black voting Democrat in the Jim Crow South.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (GbrzM)

387 Sven, ghost dogs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (fc/KF)

388 I saw Stormfront of Sugar open for The Hershey Squirts at Burning Man in 2009.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (CPN/h)

389 There are a few hot women with good personalities/senses of humor, but they have to have been ugly ducklings that blossomed late. And even then you need to catch them in that sweet spot before they realize they don't need their personality anymore, or else it atrophies from disuse.

Err, you know, besides the 'ettes - they're immune from normal conventions. (Runs and hides just in case....)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (kumBu)

390 "come on, it's common to everyone.

you guys have all had the "being interviewed on tv about how awesome you are" fantasy too, haven't you?"

Back when I was the guy in the band that wrote/arranged all the music I'd imagine myself getting interviewed about my brilliance.... so yeah, I can relate.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (jjaLl)

391 There a large number of educated Asian immigrants (yours truly included) who have been simmering with anger for a long time about illegal immigrants and though we are not prone to shout it from rooftops, its Trump all the way for us.

Posted by: IC at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (a0IVu)

392 yeah some people are so convinced they're (for example) not cute that to even bring the issue of cuteness up is a Triggering thing, and they don't want to hear it. they want compliments along lines they can actually accept/believe

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (dciA+)

393 Trump just slightly behind Hillary in Hispanics.

Trump has highest count with blacks since 1960.

More white voters than thought.

Yep Trump is a goner and the whole RINO party is gonna die.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican But Reregistered to VOTE Trump at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (AhyHb)

394 A woman voting for Hillary, I kind of get, a dumb, echo chamber woman.

Either the kind of leftist that sees the GOP as the worst thing on earth... or someone trying to signal their virtue: "I voted for the woman!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+)

395 some funny girls want to be told they're funny, oddly enough, for example.

-----------

Wait, there are funny girls?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (gmeXX)

396 352 I thought I read that Asians went 70% Democrat according to Exit polls.

You would think the one "minority" that would skew Republican would be Asians.
Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:02 PM (GbrzM)
***
Now, in fairness, I am in Texas, so my experience might not map nationally.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (lutOX)

397 372 Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)

Kurt Schlichter is what Brad Thor imagines himself to be.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM (g8Hfr)

398 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0LHZx)
-----------
My favorite commercials are the ones where they make fun of the characters who don't speak Spanish and/or can't comprehend a menu at a Mexican restaurant.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (NUqwG)

399 by the way, kurt schlicter on the podcast tonight (for tomorrow)

I don't know how bad we're going to get with trashing everyone else on the right

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)

Can we submit questions now?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (BoFYZ)

400 "Not sure who she wants to screw or what orifice."

So totally lost control of this thread.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (3vqvE)

401 Vaginas gotta stick together. Wait, that didnt come out quite right...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0mRoj)
.................

No, No. you got it right.

Posted by: Huma at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (HgMAr)

402
I will admit, this pisses me off too. However,

This is a political blog until Ace says formally it isn't.

People react like the anti-Trump people are attacking their mothers. Last I looked we did not nominate Trump to be God Emperor of Dune.

Note, I am leaving out obvious troll, because fuck them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:07 PM (3ZoRf)

Paraphrasing Bruce Willis' line from The Last Boy Scout, Troll them back. That's what I do.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (4ng05)

403 387 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:08 PM (fc/KF)

Zen and the art of Canine Patrol

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (g8Hfr)

404 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

405 could not have less respect

Who needs respect when you have Morons?

Posted by: DaveA at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (DL2i+)

406 395 some funny girls want to be told they're funny, oddly enough, for example.

-----------

Wait, there are funny girls?

_____

Wait. Girls can be funny?

Posted by: Amy Shumer at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (0LHZx)

407 long as Ace's fantasies don't include after interview with Candy Crowley----bridge too far.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 02:56 PM

I will help you bridge that sigh gap ...

Posted by: Trigglypuff at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (DAevm)

408 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?
Posted by: SH

Get an education?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (BoFYZ)

409
I've talked about it before and I will mention it again: The Eichmann Show is a good movie. It shows how nuts the left was/is to the point of not even recognizing the evil of nazism -- fascist America and Israel are worse then the Holocaust. smh

Someone this am mentioned what a jerk the historian Steven Cohen is. He's right. Cohen is crazy.

You can watch or download the film here. My screen says it is an error but if you click on play, it plays fine:

http://goo.gl/p4SZcY

There is a scene where the Hwd fruitcake starts yapping that anyone can be an "eichmann." Guy who spent his formative years and lost his entire family in the camps, says no. Hwd putz, says yes you could. smh

In another scene Hwd Putz asks another Israeli who survived Auschwitz what he "thinks of Eichmann as a man." Israeli looks at him in disgust and say, I have to go to bed, good night.

The hwd putz is Leo Hurwutiz who went on to direct the NYU documentary film school for a million years.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (iQIUe)

410 Screw Megyn Kelly

Well...if you say so.

BRB.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (eytER)

411 245 Or maybe Paula Abdul could run for President, if all it takes is being a woman & having been popular in the 90s.
-----------------------
http://tinyurl.com/z84lt5e

Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (Y/VkU)

412 404 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?
Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

To pick up the dinner tab.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (0mRoj)

413 Okay, you've forced me to type out the Hillary! Clitoris pr0n movie title I was not going to publish - Lost in Vagina Valley.

There, are you all happy now?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (fc/KF)

414 yeah... good advice... except... sometimes it doesn't work. some funny girls want to be told they're funny, oddly enough, for example.

Women aren't funny, so you're always safe with the funny compliment.

Unless you count trannies. Now those guys are funny.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (R+30W)

415 "What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?"

Stop funning with us.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (3vqvE)

416 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

That she's a "double redundancy".

Posted by: Sharkman at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (CPN/h)

417 Wait. Girls can be funny?
Posted by: Amy Shumer

Yes, Amy - you're funny.

But looks aren't everything.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (eytER)

418 I like how CNN trumpets in a banner headline every obvious inevitability like it's breaking news. The other day it was "Hillary First Womynz Nominee!!!"
Today it's "Obama Endorses Hillary!!"

Did they think he was going to endorse Trump?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (JKV9L)

419 Genetically homogenous thought-lines, unmixed with any genes of thought
from outside the family, eventually become inbred, deformed, retarded,
and monstrous.

This is the newest spin at Bilderberg regarding "bloodlines" rather than thought-lines in Europe if they don't bring in economic migrants by the millions. Since Bilderbergers marry their own cousins to keep the moolah in the family they are really talking about themselves.

Posted by: Lester at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (2UPXV)

420 398 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0LHZx)
-----------
My favorite commercials are the ones where they make fun of the characters who don't speak Spanish and/or can't comprehend a menu at a Mexican restaurant.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (NUqwG)

____

Other thing quickly noticed....everyone in the commercials is Hispanic (save for the dumb Gringo you mention). On the soccer team, they're all Hispanic. At the office party they're all Hispanic. The friends having a beer at a BBQ? All Hispanic.

Diversity quotient: 0

Odd how that is huh?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (0LHZx)

421 "What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX) "

Don't talk, don't look at me, money is on the dresser?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (kumBu)

422 "Not sure who she wants to screw or what orifice."

------------------

So totally lost control of this thread.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 09, 2016 03:10 PM (3vqvE)

I just finished reading Ace's post, didn't even bother looking at how long it's been up, was somewhat surprised there are 400 comments already, started reading up, thinking maybe I don't need to comment on Ace's points after all.

Glad I did not.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (TOk1P)

423 404 Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

Get back under the bridge Amy!

//Things Amy Schumer needs hearing

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (g8Hfr)

424 Most anti Trump people get along fine on this blog,sure we argue.ChemJeff has been different,he has become almost trollish,not just with Trump.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (B48dK)

425 This is a political blog until Ace says formally it isn't.

This is a smart military blog. Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (DAevm)

426 What would you tell me, who is cute, smart, AND funny?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (3ZoRf)

427 426 What would you tell me, who is cute, smart, AND funny?
Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (3ZoRf)

Here, put this paper bag over your head.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (0mRoj)

428 Trump will win.

I despise Trump. I think he is a buffoon who will crash and burn and betray the people who vote for him....but he will win.

And I will vote for him because he will also "destroy conservatism"...Not the Conservative Movement--Bush already destroyed that.

No, he will destroy' modern conservatism", which is really just Statist Corporatism. The modern conservatism believes that the state exists to boost business and to enforce businesses rents and monopolies against the citizenry.

Frick the GOP. Frick Ryan. Frick, especially, Frisk McCain, Romney, Graham, McConnell and those bastards.

Trump is a disaster and will destroy D.C....and that is why I will vote for him along with most of the country.

Posted by: Kasper In Extrmemis at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (HqpV0)

429 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)
....................

Not tonight, I have a headache.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (HgMAr)

430 What would you tell me, who is cute, smart, AND funny?

Posted by: Amy Schumer

Yes, that's exactly what I would tell you.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (YEelc)

431 "I fired two idiots who drove to my workplace with Trump stickers on their cars. Even after I fired the guy who wore a Trump hat. Not too smart, that bunch. But my shop smells better now.

Posted by: Maurice w. at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (kE1v4) "

You're doing a bang-up job running that lemonade stand without the two middle-school girls you fired.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (kumBu)

432 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?
Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

To pick up the dinner tab.
Posted by: Insomniac

Learn to swallow?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (BoFYZ)

433 >>The end must surely be nigh. Dogs must surely be sleeping with cats. This endorsement totally surprised me.
Roseanne endorses Donald Trump (via TheHill)

That's gonna be the wild card this time around - all of the Trump support from unexpected places, whether it's a reliably cray-cray Lefty celebrity, a recent legal immigrant, or your blue dog Dem auntie. Things have gone sideways, and the old paradigms and assumptions seem to not be working.

What amazes me is how and when Trump comes up w/strangers or acquaintances. Like, you can be chtchatting with a person who works at your local grocery, some one you don't know exactly, but you see 'em almost weekly, and they mention Trump and how glad they are that *someone* is finally calling BS on all of Obama's and the Left's PC nonsense.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (NOIQH)

434
What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

That she'd make a great politician

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (lKyWE)

435 Wait, there are funny girls?Posted by: SH

See this is the kind of sexist comment that should get you bannned for good. In the time between being pre-menstrual, menstrual, or post-menstrual, women can be quite funny.

You have to learn to savor that five minutes every month.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (ZnIt3)

436
Schlicter had no problems bashing anyone who disagreed with admitting those phonies into CPAC. He tweeted out hundreds of times that conservatives were bigots.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (iQIUe)

437 Did they think he was going to endorse Trump?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 09, 2016 03:13 PM (JKV9L)
-----------
See Trump really can't make big deals when it counts.

The Republicans are going to lose the Senate, House, every state legislature, and every city council race. Thanks primary voters.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (NUqwG)

438 Wait. Girls can be funny?

Posted by: Amy Shumer

Yes, Amy - you're funny.

But looks aren't everything.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (eytER)

I don't know. When you slap the bottom of the arm, watching for how long it waddles, that's funny the first few times you do it.

Sadly, it's pretty much all Amy's act had going for it, and the act got old about 3 years ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (TOk1P)

439 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

The dishes are in there. Get to it.

Posted by: V the K at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (O7MnT)

440 Someone brought up Asians. I don't believe most of them are liberal, but a majority do vote Democrat. They have a real chance to be the "brains" of the Party in a way that the Jews always have and still do.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (JKV9L)

441 this is a real thing they talk about -- they've discussed it from me. I talk to different people; many are on the RINO-y, NeverTrump side. But this idea -- that we'll give Those People such a resounding loss they'll realize how stupid they are and how much they need us -- is a popular one, and they have no shame or hesitation about expressing it publicly.

this makes me want to vote for Trump 100 times over

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (qCMvj)

442 Come on guys, women are hilarious. Ever watch a WNBA game? Pure comedy.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (kumBu)

443 Here, put this paper bag over your head.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (0mRoj)
..................

Only one?

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (HgMAr)

444 414 yeah... good advice... except... sometimes it doesn't work. some funny girls want to be told they're funny, oddly enough, for example.

Women aren't funny, so you're always safe with the funny compliment.

Unless you count trannies. Now those guys are funny.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (R+30W)

Eddie Izzard is just a Transvestite not a Transexual.

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (z/Ubi)

445 437 Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:16 PM (NUqwG)

Good it is not as though Ryan and Mooch were using the House or Senate

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (g8Hfr)

446 Diversity quotient: 0

Odd how that is huh?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Pretty sure the fact that it's Univision you're watching has something to do with that.

UNIVISION NEWS: More Blondes Than Fox News

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (9krrF)

447 >>What would you tell me, who is cute, smart, AND funny?

Posted by: Amy Schumer

Hey, can you introduce me to your friend Jennifer Lawrence?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (NOIQH)

448 >>>280
They'd rather lose with Paul Ryan than win with Trump, because Paul Ryan would do things the "proper" way.

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 02:54 PM (z/Ubi)

__________

Ready Willing and Able!!!!

Posted by: Paul Ryan's Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (10hEu)

449 "Amy...you're so.... strident....that's hot."

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (fYChk)

450 424 Most anti Trump people get along fine on this blog,sure we argue.ChemJeff has been different,he has become almost trollish,not just with Trump.
Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:14 PM (B48dK)

I am just asking people to think before they type. Pointless, to be sure, but I have seen more than a few conversations devolve into group flagellation exercises.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (3ZoRf)

451 Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute.

Smart girls ARE cute. Unless they're smart lefties, then they're ugly inside.

On the soccer team, they're all Hispanic. At the office party they're all Hispanic. The friends having a beer at a BBQ? All Hispanic.

Its like the racially homogenous McDonald's ads. The all-black McDonalds! The all-white McDonald's! Where do these people live?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (39g3+)

452 Always remember:

Tell the cute girls they're smart, and the smart girls they're cute.

Amazing how that still works, guaranteed, every time.
Posted by: zombie at June 09, 2016 03:05 PM (jBuUi)
***
Dude (or 'ette; because it's the web):

Don't give away the secret....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (lutOX)

453 >>we did not nominate Trump to be God Emperor of Dune

Don't prejudge - He might be good in that role. He was certainly a better Darth Vader than James Earl Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_Jdts5rL0

Posted by: Frank Herbert at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (X4FeV)

454 442 I had a guy tell me they play " pure fundamental basketball".

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (B48dK)

455 The Republicans are going to lose the Senate, House, every state
legislature, and every city council race. Thanks primary voters.

You forgot dog catcher.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (YEelc)

456 Clitoris pr0n movie title I was not going to publish - Lost in Vagina Valley.

There, are you all happy now?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (fc/KF)

Only if the "clitoris" featured is a previously unknown form of Velociraptor, and not that other thing.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (7xad/)

457 but I have seen more than a few conversations devolve into group flagellation exercises.

-----------

Well we should all exercise more.

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (gmeXX)

458 401 Vaginas gotta stick together. Wait, that didnt come out quite right...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:06 PM (0mRoj)

Brings a whole to meaning to "throw it at the wall and see what sticks".

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (4ng05)

459 Fun fact: Obama has waived the application fee to become a citizen for "low income" people. The fee is about $800. Not even a citizen and already getting welfare. What a fucking country!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (0LHZx)

460 AtC is funny. Lauraw is funny.

My niece is a hoot.

Women can be funny.

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (fYChk)

461 Frick the GOP. Frick Graham....

Posted by: Kasper In Extrmemis at June 09, 2016 03:15 PM (HqpV0)

Alright, if you insist.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (TOk1P)

462 Pretty sure the fact that it's Univision you're watching has something to do with that.

UNIVISION NEWS: More Blondes Than Fox News
Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (9krrF)
***
Pfftg!

Chapultepec blondes....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (lutOX)

463 Amy Schumer isn't pretty, isn't funny & isn't a good person in general.

But don't pretend you haven't tapped worse in a drunken stupor.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (10hEu)

464 Yes, being a grassroots conservative we are stuck between the left-wing crazies and what I've always been hesitant to say out loud, but the Trump Cultists have confirmed it for me, we have lunatics so far to the right, they are of the left and share a lot of the same views and are oblivious to it. I read here quite often the Trump Paramilitary wing of AoS getting all lathered up about going to "war".

Posted by: JROD at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (EFiUo)

465 413 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:12 PM (fc/KF)

so long as one of the C**ksmen is Theodore Edward Ted Tedward Kennedy I'm buying....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (g8Hfr)

466 To be fair to Amy, she was sort of cute when she was an up-and-comer. She used to be a frequent guest on the Opie and Anthony show. I always thought her 'gosh I'm just one of the guys, see how raunchy I can be?' act rang a bit hollow, but there was the initial novelty of a female comic that isn't milquetoast and isn't a total oinker. Then she hit it big and porked up something fierce, and now I wouldn't hit it with Hillary's dick.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (kumBu)

467 You forgot dog catcher.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (YEelc)
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Most aren't elected are they? They will follow though after the councils are lost.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (NUqwG)

468 One thing I'll give to Hispanic TV - they somehow manage to have hot Latina chicks with major Boobage into everything, whether it's the news or a kids show.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (0mRoj)

469 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

I gave you two dollars, and you weren't worth it.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (0x/TW)

470 442 Come on guys, women are hilarious. Ever watch a WNBA game? Pure comedy.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (kumBu)

Not cool. Just because they can't slam dunk, they more than make up for with sound fundam...

Nope, I couldn't finish that with a straight face.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (7HtZB)

471 Its like the racially homogenous McDonald's ads. The all-black McDonalds! The all-white McDonald's! Where do these people live?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (39g3+)

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Not that I go there often, but the odd time I am in my local McDs, it's probably 95%+ white, wouldn't surprise me if it's 100% every now and then.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (0LHZx)

472 AtC is funny. Lauraw is funny.

My niece is a hoot.

Women can be funny.

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (fYChk)

Maybe, but you know what's funnier? When chicks get pissed if you say chicks can't be funny.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (TOk1P)

473 I want another, "who should be Trump's Vice President pic" thread.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (U+nHb)

474 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?

Posted by: SH at June 09, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)

Lay off the starches.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (hLRSq)

475 >>...Then she hit it big and porked up something fierce, and now I wouldn't hit it with Hillary's dick.

And became an oversensitive feminist.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (NOIQH)

476 471 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (0LHZx)

Here in Butte the sole Mickey-D's is 97% honky....

with ~3% Amerinds

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (g8Hfr)

477 >>>473 I want another, "who should be Trump's Vice President pic" thread.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 03:21 PM (U+nHb)

____________

Pick Me! Pick Me!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (10hEu)

478 Women can be funny.
Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (fYChk)

Urban myth. Pretty sure.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (4ng05)

479 The Republicans are going to lose the Senate, House, every state legislature, and every city council race.

Ah, so you've met the Alabama GOP...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (9krrF)

480 "I had a guy tell me they play " pure fundamental basketball".

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (B48dK) "

As do middle schoolers. You have no other choice when you can't dunk or shoot from long range. It's all fundamental stuff, set shots and lay-ups. Solid basketball, but no one's idea of entertainment.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (kumBu)

481 Where do these people live?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2016 03:18 PM (39g3+)

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The McDonald's near me is about 85% black. 100% black workers.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (U+nHb)

482 As with yesterday's thread, Hillary! = "my shows"... my democrat party, my world view. Never mind she is a miserable dishonest harridan who shrieks her lies, she... has a VAGINA!! Is a DEMOCRAT!! Bad bad Trump-man has a peenis! And I HATE REPUBLICANS! (we are doomed.)

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (ucB75)

483 I watched The Bourne Legacy last night. The first five minutes of the film are fantastic and the movie wanders a bit from there.

I mention this because it had some super banal government villains in the movie who early on visit Rachel Weisz at her home and (unaware she is married to James Bond and he could really hurt them) they tried to kill her.

It was all very clinical and passionless. They were doing the murder because some office geek must have sent them a text message or something and ordered it. They looked like perfect Progressive technocrats just doing their thing. The film reminded me that we should not let government agents carry guns except under very limited circumstances.

Unfortunately for them, but good for the plot, Jeremy Renner came along and he was pretty no-nonsense.

Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (/m8T6)

484 What a fucking country!!

Hey!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (eytER)

485 Women can be funny but the most important thing is sammich making/fetching.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (B48dK)

486 Simpler concept...

Twitter is not only a self selected group...

Its also one that people who actually work for a living (manual labor) do not have time to spend time on.

Its hard to put down the hammer, and Twit that scathing remark... you can't be driving a Big Rig, and be on Twitter a whole lot...

Now, you can be sitting in an office, on the internet... and Twit'n...

or be unemployed....

Posted by: Don Quixote, titling... at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (qf6WZ)

487 478 Women can be funny.
Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (fYChk)

Urban myth. Pretty sure.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (4ng05)

Like the female orgasm, or that what they're really looking for is a nice, sensitive guy.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (0mRoj)

488
Police officer who was accused of homophobia by Amber Heard's ex-wife over 2009 domestic violence arrest is identified--and is a lesbian.

http://goo.gl/uDj5Ir

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Yep. It's lesbian vs. lesbian vs. lesbian...

Anywhere and everywhere Heard goes, there is a lesbian.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (iQIUe)

489 Women can be funny.

Posted by: eleven at June 09, 2016 03:19 PM (fYChk)

Urban myth. Pretty sure.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (4ng05)

No no, I have a cousin who went to tech school with a guy who said he dated a girl whose sister was supposedly real funny.

I don't why you think I would just lie about something like that.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (TOk1P)

490 464 Yes, being a grassroots conservative we are stuck between the left-wing crazies and what I've always been hesitant to say out loud, but the Trump Cultists have confirmed it for me, we have lunatics so far to the right, they are of the left and share a lot of the same views and are oblivious to it. I read here quite often the Trump Paramilitary wing of AoS getting all lathered up about going to "war".
Posted by: JROD at June 09, 2016 03:20 PM (EFiUo)

This can be irksome as well. I always figure it is people letting off steam. Other times it does sashay over the line into creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (3ZoRf)

491 The McDonald's near me is about 85% black. 100% black workers.

That's most fast food in this area. When the min wage hits $15 and the robots come in, the cry will be "disparate impact".

Followed shortly by a lack of fast food in the area.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (9krrF)

492
This is a political blog until Ace says formally it isn't.

This is a smart military blog. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

If there were no politics there would be no military.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

493 Police officer who was accused of homophobia by Amber Heard's ex-wife over 2009 domestic violence arrest is identified--and is a lesbian.

See. Women CAN be funny. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (BoFYZ)

494 "And became an oversensitive feminist.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 03:22 PM (NOIQH) "

Yeah, she got the memo about where her bread was going to be buttered. I'm sure as a relative of Chuckie Schumer she was always a leftist, but it didn't dominate her act in the past. She was a 'shock comic' on her O+A appearances, now she's a wilting SJW flower with just enough faux-edge to make housewives think she's daring. "Oh my stars, she talks about....sex!! I may need the smelling salts."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (kumBu)

495 488 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (iQIUe)

*spoiler alert*

Most women's sexuality is "yes."

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (g8Hfr)

496 sammich making/fetching.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:24 PM (B48dK)

Initially read as: sammich making/felching.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (TOk1P)

497 Re: right side SJW's and other assorted 'conservative' wimps, pussies and ne'er do wells....you just don't know who is in the foxhole with you until the shooting breaks out.

We are in the final battle with the left.

Chocken and beef are not on the menu.....it is a choice between rancid, stinking beans(aka Herself) and and a can with no listed ingredients that is labeled Whoop Ass(aka The Orange guy).. THOSE are
your menu choices.
Choose, or not, at your own peril.

Posted by: reintn at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (3ZttN)

498 Yes, being a grassroots conservative we are stuck between the left-wing crazies and what I've always been hesitant to say out loud, but the Trump Cultists have confirmed it for me, we have lunatics so far to the right, they are of the left and share a lot of the same views and are oblivious to it.

The fight's not left and right anymore, the right largely surrendered decades ago. It's nationalist and globalist now. Otherwise it's statists all the way down.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:26 PM (9krrF)

499 Ah, so you've met the Alabama GOP...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (9krrF)
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As Illinois goes, so goes Alabami.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 09, 2016 03:26 PM (NUqwG)

500 My favorite local McD to visit is 98% black workers & about the same percentage white patrons. Whoever the manager is is a movie buff & has decorated the place with movie posters, but with McDonald's motifs worked in: "Breakfast at McDonalds", King Kong is waving a Big Mac on top of the Empire State Building. It's a nice place.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 03:26 PM (7HtZB)

501 Unfortunately for them, but good for the plot, Jeremy Renner came along and he was pretty no-nonsense.
Posted by: MTF at June 09, 2016 03:23 PM (/m8T6)

He was pretty clinical, as well, as I recall. He was just more determined.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 09, 2016 03:26 PM (4ng05)

502 496 Works for some.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:26 PM (B48dK)

503 "Its like the racially homogenous McDonald's ads. The all-black
McDonalds! The all-white McDonald's! Where do these people live?"

Whereas at McDonalds in the real world, a black mob is beating white patrons to death out in the parking lot.

Unlikely to be featured in Mickey D's next marketing campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 09, 2016 03:27 PM (noWW6)

504 Eddie Izzard is just a Transvestite not a Transexual.

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 03:17 PM (z/Ubi)

and that's Executive Transvestite...

Posted by: Don Quixote, titling... at June 09, 2016 03:27 PM (qf6WZ)

505 What would you tell Amy Schumer, who is neither cute, nor smart, nor funny?
.................

Face down, ass up... nah, fergit it.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)

506 488 - So Calif, circa 1999, lesbian animal control officer kills her lesbian partner's child in argument. Si se puede!!

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at June 09, 2016 03:28 PM (ucB75)

507 @Brother Cavil-You're right.

Posted by: JROD at June 09, 2016 03:28 PM (EFiUo)

508 There are a lot of tranny fights in McDonald's.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:28 PM (iQIUe)

509 Amber Heard is a lesbian? Like a real one, or a "I'm trying new things out" one?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (0LHZx)

510 You'd better hope Trump does NOT lose because if Hillary! Wins there's literally going to be people shooting at other people.

Posted by: New Phone at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (QD9b6)

511 The whole Amber Heard thing, it's obvious he just decided to put herself in a situation where she gets a a hundred million dollar payday, but it's hard to feel sorry for a douchebag like Johnny Depp.

Why "marry" someone who is openly bisexual? It's not like these people are deeply religious, why not just live together?

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (GbrzM)

512 509 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (0LHZx)

If a woman pets one kitty she is drunk, two experimenting, Ms Heard runs a fucking petting zoo champ.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (g8Hfr)

513 As Illinois goes, so goes Alabami.

Posted by: RioBravo

When they drafted the proposed impeachment rules for our Governor recently (read within the last week), they borrowed from a bunch of different states. Including Illinois.

And yes, we didn't have set rules before now.

It's as much of a potential clusterfuck as that sounds.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:30 PM (9krrF)

514 If there were no politics there would be no military.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

You need to put the word 'defeats' at the end...

Posted by: Every Veteran from Viet Nam on at June 09, 2016 03:30 PM (qf6WZ)

515 >>Amber Heard is a lesbian? Like a real one, or a "I'm trying new things out" one?

As in married to one for 3-4 years. Even changed her name.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2016 03:30 PM (NOIQH)

516 510 You'd better hope Trump does NOT lose because if Hillary! Wins there's literally going to be people shooting at other people.
Posted by: New Phone at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (QD9b6)

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Gee...

I wonder what THAT would be like...

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (rlfds)

517 510 You'd better hope Trump does NOT lose because if Hillary! Wins there's literally going to be people shooting at other people.
Posted by: New Phone at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (QD9b6)

I kinda think that's going to happen no matter who wins.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (7HtZB)

518 SMFH - Beirut, Baghdad, Kabul, Mexico City...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (fc/KF)

519 I had no idea Johnny Depp and Amber Heard were married. So this is what I miss out on by not watching E!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (0LHZx)

520 media has less influence than it (and its critics) believe

His argument crashes and burns with this statement.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (AroJD)

521 The whole Amber Heard thing, it's obvious he just
decided to put herself in a situation where she gets a a hundred million
dollar payday, but it's hard to feel sorry for a douchebag like Johnny
Depp.

Why "marry" someone who is openly bisexual? It's not like these people are deeply religious, why not just live together?

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (GbrzM)

Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual habits, he might jeopardize his career.

See also: Cruise, Tom.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (TOk1P)

522 If there were no politics there would be no military.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

Imagine there's no politics... It's easy if you discount human behavior.

Posted by: That John Lennon Asshole at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (3ZoRf)

523 516 510 You'd better hope Trump does NOT lose because if Hillary! Wins there's literally going to be people shooting at other people.
Posted by: New Phone at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (QD9b6)

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Gee...

I wonder what THAT would be like...

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (rlfds)

A normal Chicago weekend?

Posted by: Don Q.. at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (qf6WZ)

524 Tom Cruise and Johnny Depp are sharing Cartman's closet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:33 PM (fc/KF)

525 Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual habits, he might jeopardize his career.

See also: Cruise, Tom.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (TOk1P)

Or, they would literally not give a shit. I like Tom Cruise. He seems to have a good eye for projects.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (3ZoRf)

526 Whereas at McDonalds in the real world, a black mob is beating white patrons to death out in the parking lot.

Unlikely to be featured in Mickey D's next marketing campaign.
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Dah-da-dah-dah, I'm loving it!

Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (Y/VkU)

527 Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual habits, he might jeopardize his career.

See also: Cruise, Tom.
Posted by: BurtTC

I don't really buy that. What agent has the power to tell some actor that worth a few hundred million they "have" to get married if they want to work in Hollywood?

Marrying someone who is openly bisexual/lesbian sort of throws out any pretense of family values.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (GbrzM)

528 Tom Cruise and Johnny Depp are sharing Cartman's closet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:33 PM (fc/KF)

Come out of the closet boys, you're not fooling anyone.

Posted by: Nicole Kidman at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (TOk1P)

529 523 516 510 You'd better hope Trump does NOT lose because if Hillary! Wins there's literally going to be people shooting at other people.
Posted by: New Phone at June 09, 2016 03:29 PM (QD9b6)

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Gee...

I wonder what THAT would be like...

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (rlfds)

A normal Chicago weekend?

Posted by: Don Q.. at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (qf6WZ)

Oh... and Levoy Finicum is still unavailable for comment...

Posted by: Don Q.. at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (qf6WZ)

530 Although, to be fair, Depp strikes me as odd enough that I have no desire to know what makes his admiral get up and salute.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:35 PM (3ZoRf)

531 Lesbian thing... OK. Married to Johnny Depp... deal breaker.

Posted by: wth at June 09, 2016 03:35 PM (HgMAr)

532 525 Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual habits, he might jeopardize his career.

See also: Cruise, Tom.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:32 PM (TOk1P)

Or, they would literally not give a shit. I like Tom Cruise. He seems to have a good eye for projects.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (3ZoRf)

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Yeah people don't care what actors do in their bedrooms. Can you act? Yes. Do I care who you're fucking? Not at all.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 09, 2016 03:36 PM (0LHZx)

533 528 Tom Cruise and Johnny Depp are sharing Cartman's closet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:33 PM (fc/KF)

maybe Kanye will write an opera about it.

Posted by: josephistan at June 09, 2016 03:36 PM (7HtZB)

534 Nood. an endorsement.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2016 03:36 PM (3ZoRf)

535 396---Now, in fairness, I am in Texas, so my experience might not map nationally.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 09, 2016 03:09 PM
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Yeah, making generalizations about "Asians" is as silly as making generalizations about "Hispanics." Not only are there differences according to country of origin, but also according to place where they reside in the US. And beyond that there are the occupational and socio-economic differences.

My SIL is an Air Force wife and also owns a catering business. One of her Chinese besties is her employee and gets a profit-sharing deal; the other is married to a self-employed electrician.

Their perspective on things, needless to say, is quite different from that of the Chinese I know in academia.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 09, 2016 03:37 PM (T/5A0)

536 518 SMFH - Beirut, Baghdad, Kabul, Mexico City...
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2016 03:31 PM (fc/KF)

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Heh Anna...

Baghdad sounds familiar.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:37 PM (rlfds)

537 Tom Cruise has done some left wing projects(Born on the Fourth of July Lions for Lambs?)but he doesn't sucker punch his audience or make political statements that I know of.

Posted by: steevy at June 09, 2016 03:38 PM (B48dK)

538 Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome
sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual
habits, he might jeopardize his career.

See also: Cruise, Tom.

Posted by: BurtTC

I don't really buy that. What agent has the power to tell some
actor that worth a few hundred million they "have" to get married if
they want to work in Hollywood?

Marrying someone who is openly bisexual/lesbian sort of throws out any pretense of family values.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (GbrzM)

What in the wide world of sports does the agent have to do with it? And yes, some agents do indeed lead their idiot stars around by the nose, but I think the better way to view this is the guilt and shame surrounding so many of these stars and their lives, they live in a world of glitter and make believe PRECISELY because they like that world better than their real lives.

So they go about it, one way or another, with their small, perverse habits, and work harder at hiding it than they do their craft.

And of course the media industrial complex in Hollywood exists precisely to help keep the illusion alive.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

539 Marrying someone who is openly bisexual/lesbian sort of throws out any pretense of family values.
Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (GbrzM)

That America set sail. You could marry a horse and it would be seen as family values.

Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at June 09, 2016 03:40 PM (Y/VkU)

540 514
If there were no politics there would be no military.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 09, 2016 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

Military IS politics. It's just degrees of negotiation.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:41 PM (qGQUx)

541 Depp lived with a woman for 14 years and had 2 kids by her. He dumped her for Heard. I would assume Depp was in a mid life crisis, horny as hell, and Heard pushed for marriage. And no, I dont think of her as bisexual. She may have had sex with men for reasons other than sexual attraction. She is attracted sexually and emotionally to women. I know of two women like her who made messes out of men's lives. They were looking for someone older to support them, whether a man or a woman tho it was clear that they were really lesbians. Now both are married to well to do lesbians. They traded up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:41 PM (iQIUe)

542
What in the wide world of sports does the agent have to do with it? And yes, some agents do indeed lead their idiot stars around by the nose, but I think the better way to view this is the guilt and shame surrounding so many of these stars and their lives, they live in a world of glitter and make believe PRECISELY because they like that world better than their real lives.

So they go about it, one way or another, with their small, perverse habits, and work harder at hiding it than they do their craft.

And of course the media industrial complex in Hollywood exists precisely to help keep the illusion alive.
Posted by: BurtTC

______________

I think you're smoking crack if you believe Depp felt he had to get married to a lesbian in order to keep getting paid as an actor.

"Depp is a fornicator that lives in sin, sorry kids, we can't see Pirates of the Carribean"

"Wait, he married the lesbian he was screwing, okay kids, everyone in the car!"

Maybe 40 years ago, but not today.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:42 PM (GbrzM)

543 Just look at Depp: all the tats, boozing, drugs - he's never had a rep as wholesome.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:42 PM (iQIUe)

544 Marrying someone who is openly bisexual/lesbian sort of throws out any pretense of family values.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:34 PM (GbrzM)

For God's sake it's Amber Herd. Did you think the mid life crisis trophy wife was going to actually work out? He had his fun and now it's time to pay. If he had been smart he wouldn't have married her and then he could jet off into the sunset with some other bi-sexual bimbo to have fun with. It's not like there is an end to that supply for Johnny Depp.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:44 PM (qGQUx)

545 Johnny Depp still wants to be sold as a wholesome sort who can star in Dinsey mooovies. If the world knew his real sexual habits, he might jeopardize his career.

Its not his sexual habits that are jeopardizing his career its his stupid characters he keeps playing.

Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2016 03:46 PM (z/Ubi)

546 f he had been smart he wouldn't have married her and then he could jet off into the sunset with some other bi-sexual bimbo to have fun with. It's not like there is an end to that supply for Johnny Depp.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:44 PM (qGQUx)

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Actually, there may be an end. It appears Amber has snapped up all the lezo-bi snatch in hollywood.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:46 PM (iQIUe)

547 And of course the media industrial complex in Hollywood exists precisely to help keep the illusion alive.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 09, 2016 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

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Hollyweird loves them some vets...especially the melatonin-infused ones that just happen to be split-tails.

The Army is bending over backwards for the Lt. that just won the Miss USA pageant(D.C.). She beat out Miss Hawaii.

Military Intelligence. Huh.

http://tinyurl.com/zxes8q5

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 09, 2016 03:47 PM (rlfds)

548 For God's sake it's Amber Herd.

How did she even seal the deal? She hasn't been convincing in anything I've ever seen her in...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:47 PM (9krrF)

549 Now both are married to well to do lesbians. They traded up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:41 PM (iQIUe)

You mean they finally got the level of maleness they desired? Remember nothing is more male than a butch lesbian. They're so male that they're actually a caricature of maleness. They take it to the level of absurdity, they make it a joke. It's male as seen through the hazy lens of a bull dike lesbian, complete with motorcycle costumes.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:49 PM (qGQUx)

550 For God's sake it's Amber Herd.

How did she even seal the deal? She hasn't been convincing in anything I've ever seen her in...
Posted by: Brother Cavil

I really think Depp just loved the "conquest" of pretending he was just such an awesome AlphaMale he flipped a hot lesbian.

The reality was, she found an easy mark and will ride off with her lipstick lesbians a $100 million richer.

Posted by: Maritime at June 09, 2016 03:51 PM (GbrzM)

551 Exactly on point. Crickets in the mainstream media. Another "local story" re: San Jose riot

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2016 03:51 PM (arypP)

552 How did she even seal the deal? She hasn't been convincing in anything I've ever seen her in...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 09, 2016 03:47 PM (9krrF)
Her greatest performance. Convincing Jack Sparrow she loved him. ROFL

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:51 PM (qGQUx)

553 You've really gone cuckoo bananas over this judge thing. Trump lashed out against someone who is acting adverse to his interests, and tossed out a nasty personal insult with a racial twinge. His comment reminded the Trump-skeptical that this is simply what the man does: he says dumb, mean-spirited shit that you would expect of a school yard bully. The man is almost 70; he'll never change.

I agree that the people who are most offended by this flap are white, college educated professionals who hang with other like people. I'm one of them. I'm a white lawyer who works in Philadelphia and lives in a suburban county. But Trump needs people like me if he wants to win Pennsylvania.

I was momentarily on the Trump train for a week or two after he cinched the nomination. I was never full #NeverTrump because I knew that Hillary would be the opponent. But every time he accentuates the reasons I already dislike him, I think of having to explain to my kids why I voted for him. And, I don't want to do that. If I vote for a presidential candidate, it will likely be the libertarian, although they haven't thrilled me either.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 03:52 PM (rX06+)

554 Actually, there may be an end. It appears Amber has snapped up all the lezo-bi snatch in hollywood.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 09, 2016 03:46 PM (iQIUe)

Thanks to Hollywood there's plenty in flyover country these days. Depp could tear through a whole sorority in Ohio one Saturday night.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:53 PM (qGQUx)

555 "But every time he accentuates the reasons I already dislike him, I think of having to explain to my kids why I voted for him. "

Just my opinion - I would hate to have to explain one day to kids why I didn't vote for him and I in effect helped an evil woman get elected and Americans lost what remains of their liberties.

And I'm not a big fan of Trump.

There is a lot of talk about how tough Trump's base - blue collar whites - have had it under Obama. White professionals, like yourself, don't really give a shit about that, which is fair, I guess. We vote according to our own situations. I don't think the upper middle class whites really believe that eventually they'll be next on the chopping block. Oh, what a surprise you are in for.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 09, 2016 03:59 PM (u0lmX)

556 I don't want to do that. If I vote for a
presidential candidate, it will likely be the libertarian, although they
haven't thrilled me either.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 03:52 PM (rX06+)

You may want to give some thought about how you're going to explain to your kids how you let the whole United States of America fall apart.*
*That's not a threat to try and force you to back Trump, but just a friendly road sign to remind you of where you actually are. I personally don't think anybody can stop what's coming, but it can be sped up. I figure a good man is the worst possible outcome, at this point. The whole thing collapses immediately if someone tries to fix anything, but let the crooks keep running it and who knows how long it can go on.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 03:59 PM (qGQUx)

557 >>>>>I think of having to explain to my kids why I voted for him.

Whatever you say Che Che.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 09, 2016 04:02 PM (z/Ubi)

558 I'm pretty bored with the election cycle.

They're calling Trump an idiot and racist, which is what they do for every republican candidate. He isn't either one.

I'll vote, and he either wins or doesn't.
I'll survive, or maybe they'll send me to a death camp, whatever

Posted by: Village Idiot at June 09, 2016 04:06 PM (bf86X)

559 I'm not a Marxist or a racial Marxist, so I don't really have a lot of class sentimentality. It doesn't particularly bother me when a bunch of middle managers get fired at a struggling company, for example, even though those people are like me. Similarly, it doesn't really bother me terribly much when a factory closes. These things happen in a free market. And, yes, the robots are coming for all the jobs. If you want my stance on the white working class, I'm in the Kevin Williamson class: help yourself. Get a Uhaul and move to where there are better opportunities.

Anyway, I see America's biggest problem as our entitlements crisis. Trump may well run to Hillary's left on that. So, why is he averting disaster again?

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 04:07 PM (rX06+)

560 Also, to claim that Trump is going to protect liberty is to ignore everything he says.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 04:09 PM (rX06+)

561 >>>Then what happens is that male competition begins within the microculture, with each new would-be alpha leader of the pack showing his fitness to lead by offering an even more strident and dogmatic -- less nuanced and less caveated -- restatement of the cult dogma, until the competition simply devolves into "who can shout the most extreme version of this stupid cult creed that no one thought about for more than two minutes before accepting as God's Transmitted Truth"
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And this traces back to what I've been trying to say for months now and constantly catch shit for doing so...Given that conservatives continue to be defeated at the ballot box, what BESIDES RANTING ON THE INTERNET AND CONSTANTLY REITERATING THE CULT DOGMA are conservatives DOING to expand the conservative base. It becomes more and more obvious every election that things are slipping away. What are you going to DO about it? Do. Not talk. Not volunteer at a phone bank (more talk) or canvass your neighborhood (walking and talking), but DO. DO DO DO DO DO?

Posted by: WTP at June 09, 2016 04:17 PM (q/kmn)

562 And, yes, the robots are coming for all the jobs. If
you want my stance on the white working class, I'm in the Kevin
Williamson class: help yourself. Get a Uhaul and move to where there are better opportunities.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 04:07 PM (rX06+)
Why don't you explain for us what we should do to help ourselves as the robots are coming? By Uhaul do you actually mean cybernetic implants?

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 04:19 PM (qGQUx)

563 It's a strange year, there's a lot of division on both the left & the right, Hillary Clinton is rightly viewed as a terrible campaigner & a deeply dishonest person, and Trump is highly unpredictable. Then there's the potential for sudden events like a criminal referral for Clinton, a serious Trump anger meltdown, the economy suddenly tanking, China/Russia/etc. suddenly attacking a neighbor.....

Personally, I think it was a mistake to nominate such a high risk political novice who practiced divisive scorched earth tactics in the primary. It would surprise me if he managed to win the election. He's got strong backing from his supporters and some crossover appeal, but his campaign infrastructure is very weak and he's easily distracted from attacking Hillary on her negatives.

However, it's impossible to know for sure how this will turn out. Two such deeply disliked candidates with all those possible black swan events hanging out there..... We'll just have to wait and see.

Posted by: Jill v2 at June 09, 2016 04:26 PM (8048L)

564 560
Also, to claim that Trump is going to protect liberty is to ignore everything he says.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 04:09 PM (rX06+)
Oklahoma, reddest of red states, just put devices in place to be used by the highway patrol to rob you blind by the roadside. Devices that will take every penny in your bank accounts. This is the true face of conservatism in 2016. It's no better, nor worse than the Democrats. They all devolve into a felonious money racket given enough time.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 09, 2016 04:26 PM (qGQUx)

565 "The rest of the right seems happy to not talk about this."

The Unpeople Of Jesusland, not being stupid, figured out a long time ago that the rest of the right considers them an embarrassment. Thus Trump.

The right-sans-Jesusland is now freaking out because they simply cannot understand why Trump won't respect their authoritah and start speaking and campaigning to *them*. Fine, you had to throw some red meat to the those states filled with soccer-moms and flyover hillbillies, but now it's time to get serious and talk to the tiny fraction of the population that Really Matters.

They can't make sense of this rejection, so like a teenager pining for their ex-boyfriend they make up explanations in their heads. Trump is a stupid poopyhead. Trump is deliberately throwing the election. Trump is Hypno-Hitler but their own brilliance and goodness makes them immune to his seductive powers.

Eventually most will get over their bruised egos and wake up to reality. Some won't. Sad.

Posted by: GalosGann at June 09, 2016 04:28 PM (T3KlW)

566 the 'right' pundits (from NRO and elsewhere) are deliberately talking down his chances. He's a threat to their careers. They and their relatives won't get jobs with him like they did with Bush, but they'll be more relevant with Hillary in the white house.

National Review has been pro-Hillary (to be fair just about 50% pro hillary) for a while now.

Posted by: Ben H at June 09, 2016 04:29 PM (gJEsZ)

567 Kudos to you Ace, and I must extend apologies for thinking, for even a minute, that you were going the way of LGF. That is all.

Posted by: Stephanie at June 09, 2016 04:34 PM (eLvFT)

568 Actually, the Trump supporters are mostly beleaguered, patriotic, white SUBURBANITES. Just check out the crowds at any Trump rally. I'm fed up with the meme, spread by the Uniparty pundit-wallahs, that Trump fans are "declassé" in some fashion. This is done on purpose to make the "bien-pensants" think [sic] that Social Ostracism and, perish the thought, Walmartian Status awaits any boob dumb enough to press the Trump button for the jump to hyperspace.

Me, I want out of this fricken' asteroid field. See yah!

Posted by: Beverly at June 09, 2016 05:03 PM (p3dJV)

569 I meant the robots are coming for all jobs, white collar and blue collar. It was a response to one of the comments above about how we upper middle class folk had it coming or something.

Posted by: gts109 at June 09, 2016 05:06 PM (rX06+)

570 The mind loss goes both ways, though. I can't bear the idea that Trump somehow becomes a president. For me personally it's like mind rape to force me to vote for him just because of Hillary. However, I know many respected, smart and intelligent people who are on board with him and they worship him the same crazy way Obama was worshiped in 2008. I wasn't puzzled by Obama but I'm puzzled by the Trump phenomenon and still trying to think of why? It can't be just bold (but empty) statements, can it? I won't fight it with frothing mouth, but won't commit a willing rape of my ballot. He's still to actually produce something beyond his brand name to convince me.

Posted by: Mitten bound at June 09, 2016 05:07 PM (0yfal)

571 Mark Steyn has subbed for Rush Limbaugh yesterday and today, and he's blistering in his denunciation of the NeverTrump crowd, taking apart their arguments joint from joint. Transcripts at Rush Limbaugh dotcom, free to read.

Mark Steyn, the witty One-Man Global Content Provider, has been in the vanguard of the Culture Wars for some years, and he's warning the rest of us that it's later than we think. (He's also scathingly funny; see his website too.)

Posted by: Beverly at June 09, 2016 05:11 PM (p3dJV)

572 571: Steyn is the brightest, funniest voice on the "Right," such as there is one, these days.

I disagree that Trump almost certainly will lose. He could lose in a blow out, win in a blow out, or this may be a standard nailbiter. No one knows and there is no empirical data to back up any claims. Shermanesque statements are empty rhetoric at the moment.

And THIS is precisely is why #nevertrump cultists are so unhinged. Well, that and they were batshit crazy at best and treasonous at worst pre-Trump. The menstruating hashtag boys want him to lose, and badly, and that it isn't a given micro-aggresses the estrogen straight out of them. Their shit largely is funny at this point but names need to be remembered, win, lose or tie.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 09, 2016 05:28 PM (t2zN/)

573 This is all about Gabe, isn't it?

Posted by: Beav at June 09, 2016 06:37 PM (wYfNS)

574 When are all these nits moving to their own country?

Posted by: G6loq at June 09, 2016 06:45 PM (zj+JZ)

575 I don't really like Trump, don't really hate him either.

and if he wins I'm pretty certain he won't be a very good POTUS (even by today's low standard).

but if the race ends up being Trump vs Hillary, Trump will win.

... but anything can happen (by "anything" I mean massive vote fraud)

Posted by: Shoey at June 09, 2016 07:10 PM (vA94g)

576 ...This is why I began trolling the "righties" on twitter: because they'd lost their damned minds and had begun quavering with Holy Horror like the most microaggressed campus Adult Baby SJWs...

i.e. bastard Hugh Hewitt bastard

Posted by: Nevertrumps are ***** at June 09, 2016 10:32 PM (i8Shl)

577 Nice Ace. I would just add that the enforcement of political correctness (intentionally misunderstanding anything that leaves open a door for misunderstanding, so as to impose a hypersensitive ultra-invasive thought-policing against heterodox views), is a deeply and fundamentally LEFTIST activity.

Conservatives try to understand, not misunderstand, because our goal is to make sense, so that we can preceded in a sensible and constructive direction, whereas the left is all about trying to manipulate narratives so as to achieve advantage for what they presume to be correct. That is official leftist doctrine, the core teaching of post-modernism: that there is no such thing as truth, only power, to be achieved through the selection and production of manipulatively advantageous interpretation.

So when we see "conservatives" deploying intentional misunderstanding in pursuit of demagogically dishonest manipulative advantage, they have become leftists, and this is possible because they were raised and bred and trained in leftist politically correct environments. They have demonstrated the capacity to think straight about some things, but the vast wilderness of their minds is still enslaved by the leftist air that they have always breathed.

Now here comes Trump, launching Roman Candles of political incorrectness in multiple directions and these semi-conservatives, who have found ways to avoid leaving openings for intentional misunderstanding, managing to eke out some tested and safe terrain, have no idea how to be safe on the politically incorrect ground that Trump is recklessly breaching.

They have no ability to think on their feet and no willingness to try because they think that to be safe they have to leave no door open for intentional misunderstanding. They can't think outside of that mode, so Trump, who is oblivious to what opportunities he is leaving open for intentional misunderstanding, launches them into a panic. Their minds are fundamentally enslaved to the leftist mode. They can't say "no, intentional misunderstanding is wrong" because they have been accommodating to it their whole lives. They literally know nothing else, making Trump appear as suicide to their enslaved minds.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at June 10, 2016 02:49 AM (5z7RS)

578 This is why they are so sure that trump will lose: because they think in terms of a battlefield where saying anything that is open to intentional misunderstanding means losing. They think in terms of the totally slanted playing field that the left has succeeded in imposing over its academic and media domains, but that isn't the only playing field.

The most important terrain is in the minds of the electorate, and they are coming out for Trump. They give him the benefit of the doubt because they are normal and decent, not twisted products of leftist academia.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at June 10, 2016 03:06 AM (5z7RS)

579 >>The most important terrain is in the minds of the electorate

This. Loosen the mainstream media and academia's grip on the minds of the electorate and their game weakens further. Anything done to break that grip is a positive. Even if Trump were to fail, I pray to God that the understanding that this point is damn near paramount is sustained. We must not turn back to the George Will/Karl Rove culture of fear of the media summed up in the mantra of "don't go to war with people who buy ink by the barrel". It is absurd how they have surrendered the culture to the left with this idiocy. It's like saying "don't go to war with people who have guns". Stupid.

Posted by: WTP at June 10, 2016 08:46 AM (q/kmn)

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