Bumped Book Thread Because I'd Like to Continue All the Book Discussions I Had to Stop Because of My Dumb Job

I'm such a trendsetter.

People are spending less time on social media apps, in some cases substantially less, a new study from marketing intelligence firm SimilarWeb found.

The company compared Android users' daily time spent on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Snapchat from January to March 2016 with the same period in 2015. The firm looked at data from the U.S, UK, Germany, Spain, Australia, India, South Africa, Brazil and Spain.

Facebook's Instagram saw the biggest year-over-year drop usage was down 23.7 percent this year, closely followed by Twitter (down 23.4 percent), Snapchat (down 15.7 percent) and Facebook (down 8 percent), the study found.

Twitter's stock is trading down around 34 percent, and Facebook's stock is up almost 14 percent so far this year.

Books >> Tweets and "Likes."

Book recommendations, anyone?

I'm currently reading "Ringworld" by Larry Niven. I read it in HS, so I'm re-rereading it.

I'm also reading Robert Lustig's "Fat Chance" because I'm on an anti-sugar/anti-carb kick. I just read Jason Fung's "The Obesity Code."

Apparently Intermittent fasting -- which I had good results with, but then stopped a while ago -- is now widely accepted by doctors (if not completely) as healthy.

Anyone else out there on IF?

Posted by: Ace at 07:47 PM




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Posted by: mallflower at June 07, 2016 01:18 PM (qSIlh)

2 Twitter 1st then facebook

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:20 PM (5+B0f)

3 yaaay me.

facebook is only interesting if you know people who post interesting stuff. Or as Bugs Bunny put it "Interesting people are so interesting! I'm always interested in interesting people! Now put the paddies in the water..!"

Posted by: mallflower at June 07, 2016 01:20 PM (qSIlh)

4 I go one better. I've quit the internet. I haven't been on it in years.

Posted by: irright at June 07, 2016 01:21 PM (XfEYT)

5

Tech evolution.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:22 PM (qCMvj)

6 re 4: how'd you quit the internet if you're here..? ok, granted, Ace is in the sophisticated top end of the internet...

Posted by: mallflower at June 07, 2016 01:23 PM (qSIlh)

7 I've gone from 0 seconds a day to 0 seconds a day.

Posted by: gm at June 07, 2016 01:23 PM (4ueYo)

8 Just closed my twitter account now. I only joined a couple of months ago. It was highly addictive and sent my blood pressure skyrocketing in light of all the stuff that's been going on. Good riddance.

Posted by: Crrr6 (hotair refugee) at June 07, 2016 01:24 PM (s9KBB)

9 TANJ, Ringworld.

"Ringworld is unstable!" - what real science fiction readers told Niven. So in the sequel he wrote about having to fix the defunct control system.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:25 PM (RbRGC)

10 I fast intermittently.Can't eat while I'm sleeping.

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (B48dK)

11 Ace, keep the calories under 2,000 a day and walk. I walk 4 miles in an hour, maybe 5 times a week. Down 58 lbs since September.

Posted by: Skokumchuk at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (/WPPJ)

12 >>>I'm currently reading "Ringworld" by Larry Niven. I read it in HS, so I'm re-rereading it.

Posted by: Ace at 01:17 PM>>>

I didn't think Niven's stuff was worth re-reading. You should try out Steven Erikson's books if you haven't read them.

Posted by: gm at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (4ueYo)

13 I IF on the 24 hr schedule every day.

It's mostly because I have no self control and the only way I can force myself into it is giving myself a very narrow window from which to eat.

I don't always succeed, but there are always going to be ups and downs when losing weight (I've lost 20 and look to lose 10-15 more).

Reading Nicholas Nickleby. Even lesser Dickens is fun reading.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (5sBuX)

14 Books: Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson
The Aeronauts Windlass by Jim Butcher

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (WuRdh)

15 btw, a commenter here recommended drinking apple cider vinegar as a weight loss aid.

Fung mentions that, and now I'm doing it. I'm not sure if it's working, but I do seem to go into ketosis more readily when I'm taking vinegar.

So good recommendation on that.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (dciA+)

16 I liked Ringworld.

I intermittently fast as a matter of habit.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:26 PM (I8Bd1)

17 Shhh.Let's be quiet and let the arguers continue arguing in the thread below.

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (B48dK)

18 You need to hang out on the Sunday book threads, Ace.

Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (7HtZB)

19 >>I IF on the 24 hr schedule every day.

It's mostly because I have no self control and the only way I can force myself into it is giving myself a very narrow window from which to eat.

...

I was doing 24 hours, or at least 22, a lot of days. but it seemed to be holding me back (starvation mode?).

I'm going to work in a 24 hour one a couple of times a week, I t hink.


Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)

20 I'm on the NSNG bandwagon. I've had good results without having to fast intermittently but I expect to as soon as I hit a stubborn plateau.

Posted by: BuckIV at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (CLfqv)

21 >>Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson


Mistborn is good.

So far, The Stormlight Archives is great.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (I8Bd1)

22 I intermittently fast between meals. and snacks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (ODxAs)

23 The Mrs. tried a month of IF and it really kick-started her dieting.

She quit doing it after that, but with other changes in diet she's steadily losing weight.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (F26eZ)

24 I have never used any of the social media. I have several books by Larry Niven. Currently re-reading the Jack Ryan series by Tom Clancy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (mpXpK)

25 >>Anyone else out there on IF?<<

Don't go faddish, go consistent.

Balanced diet, regular, full body exercise.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (O0lVq)

26 If you want to kick start your diet, go to the local Mall and lick a door handle or two.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (I8Bd1)

27 Are we sure that it's not just because these particular sites have lost their charm and the users have moved on to other social media apps?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (KUaJL)

28

Book recommendations, anyone?

I'm reading One R. Pagan's The First Brain: The Neuroscience of Planarians

http://amzn.com/0199965048

(well, one of the books I'm reading - I usually have a few I switch between depending on my mood - always a sci-fi in the backdrop)

One I found recently that I ordered and waiting on:

The Boy Who Played with Fusion: Extreme Science, Extreme Parenting, and How to Make a Star

Paperback - June 14, 2016
by Tom Clynes ( Author )

http://amzn.com/0544085116

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (qCMvj)

29 Water fasting is very good for the body and can curb alot of addictions and cravings like to caffeine and nicotine and alcohol.

Start with a 24 water fast once a week and then move up to 2 days and then 3 days. I wouldn't go past 3 days.

Posted by: L, Elle at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (6IPEM)

30 I'm currently reading "Ringworld" by Larry Niven.

QUESTION FOR SCI-FI FANATICS here:

Niven's "Ringworld" is about a gigantic ring-shaped structure around a star.

HOWEVER, has there ever been a sci-fi novel or story about a DIFFERENT kind of "ringworld" -- i.e.

A planet, like Mercury, that is "tidally locked" with its sun, so that one side always faces toward the sun and is super-hot, and the other side always faces away and thus is super-cold; as a result, there is an extremely thin "ring" around the planet defining the "sunset edge" where the sun is just barely visible on the horizon at all times. Thus, in this "ring," maybe only a mile wide, encircling the whole planet top top bottom, there is a zone of mid-temperature livability.

Has any famous sci-fi story been set in such a world -- a "ring world" as it were?

Posted by: zombie at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (jBuUi)

31 Book recommendations, anyone?


There's a really classy blog that does a book thread on Sunday mornings. I'll try to remember the URL.


I am slogging my way through the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

I would read all of the fasting and exercise books except that I already know that I need to get up off my fat ass. I'm a middle-aged guy who has always prided himself on fitness and somehow the last six months of binge drinking and doing nothing has gained me 30 pounds.

I know what I have to do.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (1xUj/)

32 Nathan Lowell - Solar Clipper series.
Drew Hayes - Super Powered series.

Both very enjoyable series.

Posted by: YS1 at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (D80nD)

33 I was doing 24 hours, or at least 22, a lot of days. but it seemed to be holding me back (starvation mode?).

I'm going to work in a 24 hour one a couple of times a week, I t hink.


Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)

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It's weird but I never really seem to hit that. I know I'm supposed to at that schedule, but I never feel like it.

I'm sure you've read on IF, but the idea is to get through the triglycerides in your system fairly quickly so your body has to rely on fat stores for energy.

I'm not big, but when I can manage to keep to the schedule for more than a week, the fat really does seem to melt away. It's an awful couple of weeks while I go, though. (I hate being hungry...as I'm sure we all do.)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (5sBuX)

34 Confession: I have never read any of Asimov's Foundation series.

So that's what I'm doing now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (gW5Vg)

35 Ace, I'm going to suggest this one more time: "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz. Given your interest in dietary guidelines and hatred for big government mendacity this book lies at the current locus of your curiosity and outrage. Well worth your time....

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (2XJxO)

36 I quit facebook years ago after getting roped into an ugly political flame war with a friend that I didn't realize showed up on my wall. Guess I just missed the setting to prevent that but not before some embarrassment.

I miss the important family & friend updates, but it's overall so much better leaving that behind. Just quit - you'll be better off for it.

Posted by: Crrr6 (hotair refugee) at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (s9KBB)

37 I think I'm going to be mining this thread for a very long time.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (OxsRO)

38 I might reread Snow Crash or The Diamond Age. Or go write my own stuff, got lots of ideas and stories piling up. Probably should do that.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (RbRGC)

39 Ace is on the cutting edge. I never cared for myspace or fakebook.

Posted by: willy at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (Ffw22)

40 IF gets a oblique mention in Taleb's Antifragile. The main idea is that we evolved to have sporadic access to food, not three meals a day.

Thus our bodies kinda prefer sporadic feedings.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (vpmxf)

41
With my eyes in a near-permanent state of flaming, tearing pain thanks to monitor addiction, I stopped ordering books for Kindle. Got a Barnes & Noble membership and I go there about once a week.

I alternate fiction and nonfiction. Just finished a biog of Catherine the Great, started on some P.G. Wodehouse fluffery.

Posted by: iforgot at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)

42 Members of the Mormon church fast 24 hours on the first Sunday of every month, and donate the money they would have spent on the food (or more, if they can afford it) as a "Fast Offering", which is used to help feed, clothe, and house the poor. Between fasting and not smoking/drinking, it's not surprising they have longer than average life expectancies.

Posted by: EyeSurgeon at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (+v12A)

43 IF - no.

Sadly, these days, one of my only pleasures is to eat.

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (AoK0a)

44 Book reviews on my blog (link in nic)

And a list of all the published Horde writers under Lists/ AoSHQ

Recs: how about Life Unworthy by Christopher Taylor or Amy Lynn by Jack July?

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (7lVbc)

45 I tried intermittent fasting in tandem with low carb diet when I first started the low carb thing in January/February.. I lost weight faster than I am losing it now..

It's really hard for me to go without eating for long periods though.. I kinda dropped it.

And my body builder colleague here at work thinks you should start the day off with some energy anyway.. despite agreeing about low carbs, he thinks starting off with a bowl of oatmeal starts your day right..

Usually I just have an Atkins protein bar like I did today.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (so+oy)

46
I wonder what percentage of people, say under 60, have never facebooked, tweeted, instagramed or snapchatted like me. I never understood people telling others daily what they had for lunch.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (ODxAs)

47 Is "Ringworld" where they got the idea for the halos in the Halo video games?

I started reading the Sword of Truth Series by Terry Goodkind about a month ago. Finished Wizard's First Rule two weeks ago and I am about halfway through the second book in the series, Stone of Tears. So far so good.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (BDZWU)

48 Mistborn is good.

So far, The Stormlight Archives is great.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (I8Bd1)



THIS.

Sanderson is outstanding.

CoAlex has come up with a plan, that AtC and I fully endorse, to see if we can get Sanderson to follow GRRM around a Con while dressed as the Grim Reaper.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (gW5Vg)

49 How intermittent is the fasting?

Posted by: MacGruber at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (FEAjO)

50 "Leadership in the Shadows: Special Operations Soldier" by Kyle Lamb

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (O0lVq)

51 > Book recommendations, anyone?

Pride of Chanur by CJ Cherryh

Posted by: ArthurK at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (h53OH)

52 For those with a Martian kick and Barsoom has been tapped out, could read Niven's Protector. Or maybe Jack Williamson's Beachhead. Might perchance to read Varley's Red Thunder.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (RbRGC)

53 I've said this before, and will say it again until you all agree to read it:

I'm almost finished with Walter Lippmann's "The Public Philosophy." It's like the dude is pointing at 2016, from his writing instrument in 1953, and telling us what this world is going to look like.

It's almost scary... hell, no, it IS scary.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (TOk1P)

54
They say to get even better results with int. fasting to do cardio (whilst fasted).

To get your body to really use up its fat stores, right?

Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (yG7Ca)

55 Anyone who wants to lose weight should give weight training a try. Increase your muscle mass and you'll increase your TDEE (calories you burn daily). Plus you'll feel better.

Posted by: brak at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (MJuTN)

56

the quicker you quit twitter the happier you will be


its the place where assholes breed

Posted by: ThunderB at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (zOTsN)

57 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (so+oy)

Regardless of the method you use, your body will almost always lose weight faster at the begining.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

58 Don't go faddish, go consistent.

Balanced diet, regular, full body exercise.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:29 PM (O0lVq)


I agree. Don't eat junk. Eat less and move around.

And, yes, cider vinegar is healthy and good for you. I use it all of the time, but in recipes. This past week, in a potato salad, a coleslaw and a cucumber salad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (qCMvj)

59 follow GRRM around a Con while dressed as the Grim Reaper.

Hahaha! That would be awesome!

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (9nt94)

60 I'm re-reading Mark Twain's "Joan of Arc". To say that Samuel Clemens was a JoA fan would be something of an understatement.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (JBggj)

61 I may have a book recommendation after October... thanks to the link here on Sunday to its kickstarter page, I won an auction for a copy of the Chymical Wedding at Con or Bust!

Posted by: redbanzai at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (3JA/M)

62 >>>25 >>Anyone else out there on IF?

Don't go faddish, go consistent.

Balanced diet, regular, full body exercise.
Posted by: Marcus T


...

can I ask what the parameters of your expertise are in this field?

Boy, sure seems to be a lot of freelance biochemists out there.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (dciA+)

63 >>>Sanderson is outstanding.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (gW5Vg)>>>

He is a disciplined writer, with good twists. But his latest books seem to be weaker than his earlier works. I think he's rushing them now.

Posted by: gm at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (4ueYo)

64 With all of the talk of UBI (Universal Basic Income) I have thought a lot about the Harry Harrison Stainless Steel Rat books which I read back in the 90s (Harrison is a late 50s/60s vintage writer). The parallel to UBI is that the Rat's future is one where all productivity is automated and no one has to work. The Rat is bored and turns to a life of crime, essentially.

Very good reads and highly recommended. I need to acquire my own copies and read them again.

Posted by: scooter (not libby) at June 07, 2016 01:35 PM (WKeEA)

65 49 How intermittent is the fasting?
Posted by: MacGruber at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (FEAjO)

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There are different schedules. The most common is to keep all eating/caloric intake within a single eight hour period in the day. It gets more extreme from there to the point of a 24 hour fast which, while not technically 24 hours, means that you eat at one time a day and don't eat again until the same time of day the next day.

The idea is to force your body to use fat stores as much as possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:35 PM (5sBuX)

66 Hahaha! That would be awesome!

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (9nt94)



CoAlex actually sent an email to Sanderson via the contact on Sanderson's site. I don't think he's heard anything yet.

We're GoFundMe-ing the shit out of that if it happens.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:35 PM (gW5Vg)

67 Tuesday afternoon book thread?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 07, 2016 01:35 PM (1ijHg)

68 I liked alot of Niven's stuff.
Protector, Crashlander, and the Fleet of World (co-authored) series are all good, and take place in the Ringworld "universe".
I'm just reading Forever Peace. Not as good as Forever War by Haldeman. I just finished All you Need is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka. It was the basis of the movie Edge of Tomorrow. Groundhog Day meets alien invasion.

Posted by: Iblis at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (9221z)

69 And let me repeat my plug for mewe as a FB alternative

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (7lVbc)

70
>>Sanderson is outstanding


Some of his stuff is outstanding.
Some, good.
The rest, meh.

I am getting really tired of waiting on him and Rothfuss to finish their next fucking books, though.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (I8Bd1)

71 My wife has largely abandoned FaceBook. I never did it, I knew it could get me in trouble.

I genuinely do think it makes people depressed to engage in Social Media, especially women, because everyone is trying to "outdo" everyone else when the reality never matches these people's lives.

Long term, I think places like facebook will be largely abandoned and not this thing that everyone has to have, but who knows. I know with my generation (Gen X) it's definitely on the way out.

Posted by: Maritime at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (qed1T)

72 Considering that Ringworld was first published in 1970, perhaps. In concept it is a cheap knock-off of a Dyson Sphere. Easier and cheaper to build than enclosing a whole star.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (RbRGC)

73 Instagram usage is down? I thought for sure that people would want to look at food pictures forever.

Reading "Deadly Valentines," the story of "Machine Gun" Jack McGurn and his wife, the so-called Blonde Alibi. The first-hand account of the cop who discovered the aftermath of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre chills the blood in your veins.

Posted by: CrustyB at June 07, 2016 01:36 PM (GvSpB)

74 >>>59 follow GRRM around a Con while dressed as the Grim Reaper.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (9nt94)>>>

His books are terrible. Worst drivel I've ever read. And in one of his forewords, Sanderson said GRRM is a good editor! Is he high? 1/2 to 2/3 of GRRM is worthless and pointless filler that should be cut out. I'd think that Sanderson is big enough on his own that he doesn't have to kiss GRRM's fat ass, but I guess not.

Posted by: gm at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (4ueYo)

75 Yeah, apparently FaceSchnook has become crack for 50-something white women because my wife can't stop FaceSchnooking on her cellphone. And then complains about her eyes. [Long sigh.]

Posted by: joncelli, Hoping for An End to It All at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (Mt8T4)

76 Confession: I have never read any of Asimov's Foundation series.

So that's what I'm doing now.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (gW5Vg)


that's a good idea

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (qCMvj)

77 Huge Larry Niven fan.
I liked To George enough to.read the series.

His best work, though, is when he partnered with Dr. Jerry Pournelle. He is an amazing guy. If you are not familiar with his background, check him out.

The Co-Dominion series rocks. Read The More in God's eye.

Absolute favorite is Lucifers Hammer . Wished for a film or mini series version. Instead we got Armageddon and Deep impact. So.we will likely not.ever.see one.
They could still make a film/mini series of Footfall.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (+B2CV)

78 60 I'm re-reading Mark Twain's "Joan of Arc". To say that Samuel Clemens was a JoA fan would be something of an understatement.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (JBggj)

===================

I think he was more of an anti-Catholic, and the story of Joan of Arc just fed his hatred of the Catholic Church.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (5sBuX)

79 I'm about halfway through Caves of Steel, and thinking I will just commit and reread all of Asimovs robot books.

Posted by: MTF at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (/m8T6)

80 One thing that my girlfriend is amazed that I do (which is apparently rare?). I stop eating when I'm no longer hungry. I feel like most people just absolutely feel the need to clean their plate. I've never felt like that. I'll eat as much as I feel like I need to, and if there's more left over, then eh, whatever. Is this some sort of superpower or something? It seems rather basic to me.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (KUaJL)

81 Sundays are feast days, not fast days.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (1ijHg)

82 Book recommendations, anyone?


Naaaah I hate reading.

What!

Okay okay fiiiiiinnneeeee.

I'm reading through Mistborn again and I still really like the magic system though I'm in the camp that it's not magic per se since there's a natural explanation for it.

I'm back on a Clancy kick so it's been Red Storm Rising and Patriot Games and Rainbow Six (happiest ending ever!) and this is where I rant about how Clancy view of the enemy is not simplistic at all. The enemies all have realistic motivations and, hey, guess what, they love their country and their families too. You understand why they do what they do, it's not just stick figures.

I'm picking at The Stand because I do that now and again. Oh King. So much crap burying the good stuff.

Oh! And I finally got Influx by Daniel Suarez and I'm quite liking it so far. It's an interesting conceit and well done so far.

Also I feel terrible that my first response to hearing that Roger Goodell is not dead (internet hoax) was dammit. I'm not a better person.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (mf5HN)

83 >>>How intermittent is the fasting?

the daily style of IF is eating during an eight hour window and not eating the other 16. So, for example, you break fast at 12 pm and may eat three meals until 8 pm, then no more eating until noon the next day.

People routinely increase fasting times, though. Many people do 18/6, or 19/5, or 20/4. Some people eat only once per day, making each day a 24 hour fast (from the last time you ate = 24 hours, or about that).

There are other versions of IF (alternate day fasting, two days in a row fasting) but i think the daily 16/8 is the easiest and most popular.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (dciA+)

84 They say to get even better results with int. fasting to do cardio (whilst fasted).

They call that bonking. That's how I do cardio anyway. I don't like to eat before my morning exercise. I didn't know it was a thing until recently. Right now, I am existing on takeout. My mother is coming out to help while my stupid back is busy shooting lightning down my leg. Everyone will rejoice at the first home cooked meal, which will probably be low carb. I feel like the line in Tommy Boy. "Ugh, I can actually hear you getting fatter."

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (9nt94)

85 If you haven't already, do read Larry Correia's "Monster Hunter" series. It's action/pulp, but it's A+ adventure fiction full of humor and moron horde attitude.

Posted by: Cameron at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (6aVBb)

86 Posted by: iforgot at June 07, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)

Have you tried the kindle paper white?

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (7lVbc)

87 So will there also be a person pulling a cart calling out, "Bring out your dead!" in this deal AlextheChick???

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (RbRGC)

88 Just finished up with the second of John Ringo's Council Wars series: Emerald Sea. Pretty good. Also currently reading the Gandalara Cycle (Randall Garrett/Vicki Ann Heydron) Pretty okay - dude becoming a tiger-riding warlord after SMOD smacks him backward and/or forward in time.

In non-fiction, I've had recommended to me a book called With The Old Breed. Account of a Marine on Peleliu and Okinawa.

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (HtLSE)

89 I wonder what percentage of people, say under 60,
have never facebooked, tweeted, instagramed or snapchatted like me. I
never understood people telling others daily what they had for lunch.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (ODxAs)


I have a relative (by marriage) who had literally never facebooked until a couple years ago, but she's the addictive type person. Before she went there, she was addicted to court tv/news channel sensational drama stuff, like Casey Anthony and all that rot.


Now she is one of those people who is live-updating family events as they happen, so if you logged onto YOUR facebook page and sneezed at the same time, you could see the "God bless you" on her newsfeed faster than you heard the words.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

90 Lawrence Wright's book on Scientology (Going Clear) is fantastic and fascinating.

Posted by: L Ron Hubbard at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (A2dHE)

91 85 If you haven't already, do read Larry Correia's "Monster Hunter" series. It's action/pulp, but it's A+ adventure fiction full of humor and moron horde attitude.
Posted by: Cameron at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (6aVBb)

Yes, absolutely. And I think hook one is free on amazon.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (7lVbc)

92 I read 'The Powder Mage Trilogy' last week. Brian McClellan. Pretty good. Pretty fast read, too.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (I8Bd1)

93 I actually looked into IF after Ace mentioned it a few months ago. I'm in month 3 of getting back into my usual weightlifting routine after two years of absence. (Put most everything on hold to deal with my wife's cancer during that time)

Since I work long days in the Corporate Circle of Hell, I don't get to the gym until nighttime. I make sure to eat nothing after 6 PM, hit the gym after that, and don't eat until 11AM the following day. During that period though I eat like a horse to get the protein I need. So far, I've dropped about 25 lbs of body fat and increased my lean muscle mass.

I also don't get hungry at all during my non-eat phase. Took about a week at first until that went away.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (DRWGY)

94

young people dont use instagram

they have moved to Snap Chat

Posted by: ThunderB at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (zOTsN)

95 Folks, this is really easy conceptually, the only difficult part is execution.
MEAT, green vegetables, occasional fruit. In the loss (and for maintenance) phase, absolutely no refined carbs- baked goods, pasta, tortillas (sob), cereal, and so on. Rice or potato are okay if consumed within 1-2 hours either side of vigorous exercise.
Oh, and don't forget the vigorous exercise. No long, plodding runs (you're not a young man ace). Lift Heavy Shit, 3 x week minimum. If you must do some pansy cardio work, make it intervals--short and intense.

Like I said morons, the answer is easy, execution is the key.

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (2XJxO)

96 Zombie, the WarHammer 40K novel "Deathwatch" is partially set on a tidally locked planet.

I'm taking a break from WH40k though. Grimdark sci-fi and Stanley Cup Finals tension are a bad mix.

Posted by: LJIm (Lets Go Pens) at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (9TK8E)

97 74 His books are terrible. Worst drivel I've ever read. And in one of his forewords, Sanderson said GRRM is a good editor! Is he high? 1/2 to 2/3 of GRRM is worthless and pointless filler that should be cut out. I'd think that Sanderson is big enough on his own that he doesn't have to kiss GRRM's fat ass, but I guess not.
Posted by: gm at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (4ueYo)

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There's a huge difference between editing your own stuff and editing someone else's.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (5sBuX)

98 Meanwhile, there is an unprecedented wave of albino killings in Malawi. Where's the outrage?

#albinolivesmatter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (qcIWB)

99 >>I agree. Don't eat junk. Eat less and move around.

And, yes, cider vinegar is healthy and good for you. I use it all
of the time, but in recipes. This past week, in a potato salad, a
coleslaw and a cucumber salad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (qCMvj)
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Good stuff. I also eat many of the foods some "fads" tell you not to. Full grains/bread WITH gluten, carbohydrates, olive oil, foods with FAT, meat, eggs, cheese, various condiments. But I watch the overall intake and drink only water. I do avoid most sugar. But that doesn't stop me from indulging when I want. It's just something I don't intake on a regular basis.

Most important- consistent, regular full body exercise, crossfit style and weight training.


Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (O0lVq)

100
>>>They call that bonking.

Oh, so like sex, then,

Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (yG7Ca)

101 Rothfuss to finish their next fucking books, though.


Yes! I am waiting for that too. I think he is sidetracked by a TV series development deal.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (9nt94)

102 Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:38 PM (mf5HN)

Someone should really discuss book recommendations in a podcast format. That would be a cool idea.

And fuck you, you can't have my parfait.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (gW5Vg)

103 Just finished reading "Before the Fall" by Noah Hawley after it was mentioned in this past weekend's book thread. Some of the characters work at a Fox News like network. One of those, Bill Cunningham, is clearly inspired by Bill O'Reilly. Mr. Hawley is clearly not an O'Reilly fan. Not that I blame him.

The reason I mention that particular character is that the book is an entertaining read up until the end. Close to the end, Hawley has Cunningham doing something pretty implausible on the air. Although I also have a pretty low opinion of O'Reilly, he simply isn't stupid enough to do what he is portrayed doing on the air. If it was just doing stuff off the air when nobody was looking and he thought he could get away with it, that might buy. But, on the air? No way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (R+30W)

104 >>> "I'm also reading Robert Lustig's 'Fat Chance' because I'm on an
anti-sugar/anti-carb kick. I just read Jason Fung's 'The Obesity Code.'"

"Ace, I'm going to suggest this one more time: 'The Big Fat Surprise' by Nina Teicholz."

_Good Calories, Bad Calories_ by Taubes.

_The Cholesterol Myths_ by Ravnskov.

The public have been subjected to a half-century-long dietary experiment, one that failed, and caused enormous damage to lives and health. This experiment was at the hands of eminent scientific authorities, the proverbial Top Men, and the Top Men simply got it wrong. Horrifically wrong.

Via selection bias, bad data, cherry-picking, inept statistical work, "pal review" in the professional medical and scientific literature, and pal promotion to all the primo positions in the profession.

I regularly horrify the bien-pensant class out here on the left coast by announcing that I do not believe in the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis. Virtually no one asks _why_ I adhere to these heresies, of course. Typically I just get the turned back and indignant flounce. Why, this person is a backward bitter clinger who doesn't believe in Science! Warning! Warning! Class-signifier violation! Ignorant white trash have snuck in the back door!

On the rare occasions when anyone does ask, I note how the federal government just recently retracted decades of advice about diet. Advice which had been, at the time it was issued, "settled science". There was "a consensus". Among dieticians and doctors, "97%" endorsed that advice. And it all turned out to be a pile of dingo's kidneys. Completely without substantive foundation.

A government-run Big Science outfit that can't competently advise me on what to eat for breakfast tomorrow sure isn't in any position to be advising me on what the global temperature is going to be in the year 2100. For that matter, I don't think they have an adequate rigor of instrumentation to be telling me or anyone else what the global temperature is _today_.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (noWW6)

105
My wife is on a charity fundraiser committee and so set up a facebook page for them where she could then see others facebooks and saw a parent of one of our daughters classmates bragging that their kid got straight A's all year. but of course their kid didn't. It was just weird.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (ODxAs)

106 By the by, i just finished the first two books of McMurty's Berrybender Narrative series. Love his writing.

Posted by: MTF, please excuse iphone spelling errors at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (/m8T6)

107 I'm doing the no sugar, or other carbs. I've managed to shed 27 pounds by doing so in the last three months.

For others out there trying to limit their carbs.....Protein Up is a wrap made of hummus...and it's quite good. They're available at Wally World.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (i2t8l)

108 If you're looking for a fun and medium-light read, I recommend the Magic 2.0 series from Scott Mayer.

Posted by: LJIm (Lets Go Pens) at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (9TK8E)

109 "I'm also reading Robert Lustig's "Fat Chance" because I'm on an anti-sugar/anti-carb kick. I just read Jason Fung's "The Obesity Code.""

I've been doing low carb now for 2 years straight. I will never go back (except from Thanksgiving through Christmas, of course). I'm down 40lbs (235 -> 195) and have no threat of regaining. My doctor is kind of pissed off. He's a vegan and has propaganda all over his office. My diet has not only kept my weight off, but my bad cholesterol is back where it should be. So it kind of shoots him in the foot. Side bonus - Greatly improved on my back problems. Not fixed. But better.

Atkins has new bars out call Harvest Trail. Seriously good. They don't have sugar alcohol. I believe they have Splenda. So eat 5 at a time.

As for IF, I'm LDS (or slightly Jack Mormon which allows me to be here - look it up). So yeah, every month.

Posted by: Brian_AL at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (V2QDI)

110 *couriers ice cream to AlextheChick because BCochran is being mean*

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (RbRGC)

111 I wanna followup to the previous thread. Ace wrote,

"It's also a note to the Trump people, who pushed Trump, despite my repeated warnings that if you do this, you will lose this quarter of the party. I don't know how many times I cautioned that social status is incredibly important to people, and few will voluntarily undertake any action which results in a loss of social status."

The whole liberalism/deindustrialization agenda that the democrats have been pushing and the "upper middle class" "republicans" have been refusing to fight in any effective manner basically results in a loss of social status for the other 3/4 of the republican party. You know, the people whose votes they say they want.

It's also a loss of social status to no longer be able to go to a political rally without being beat up by a bunch of Mexicans.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (kCfMX)

112 76 Confession: I have never read any of Asimov's Foundation series.

So that's what I'm doing now.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (gW5Vg)

that's a good idea
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (qCMvj)

==================

They may be lite Socialist fantasies, but they're fun. And it's enjoyable to see the Mule destroy the best laid plans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (5sBuX)

113 Start with a 24 water fast once a week and then move up to 2 days and then 3 days. I wouldn't go past 3 days.
---
hyponatremia will make sure you don't.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (iRosR)

114 >>>Since I work long days in the Corporate Circle of Hell, I don't get to the gym until nighttime. I make sure to eat nothing after 6 PM, hit the gym after that, and don't eat until 11AM the following day. During that period though I eat like a horse to get the protein I need. So far, I've dropped about 25 lbs of body fat and increased my lean muscle mass.

they say if you eat after you work out more mass is put into muscle.

so maybe adjust to 1pm to 8pm...?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (dciA+)

115 Also, not a book but close enough, the History of Rome podcast series (it's on iTunes).

200 episodes, 70+ hours. Freaking incredible!

Posted by: ArthurK at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (h53OH)

116 I think he was more of an anti-Catholic, and the story of Joan of Arc just fed his hatred of the Catholic Church.
====================

I'm not getting that vibe. Joan of Arc was an ardent (ahem) Catholic and her anti-Hussite letter(s) are well-known and noted by Clemens. Bishops seeking political ends by using heresy laws are another thing.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (JBggj)

117 92 I read 'The Powder Mage Trilogy' last week. Brian McClellan. Pretty good. Pretty fast read, too.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:39 PM (I8Bd1)



I started that and then set it down about halfway through Book 2, I believe. I need to go back to it.

Dammit. My "need to read" list is longer than AtC's Book of Dwarven Grudges. It's approaching GRRM novel length.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (gW5Vg)

118 I'm finishing up The Magicians series by Lev Grossman. Kind of an adult-oriented version of Narnia and Harry Potter. They made a series that is based on it on SyFy, although I haven't seen it.

Posted by: KhanCzerntrahl at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (L7Eun)

119 96 Zombie, the WarHammer 40K novel "Deathwatch" is partially set on a tidally locked planet.

I'm taking a break from WH40k though. Grimdark sci-fi and Stanley Cup Finals tension are a bad mix.
Posted by: LJIm (Lets Go Pens) at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (9TK8E)


WH40K can suck you in. Dan Abnett's stuff is addicting. Sandy Mitchell's stuff is also fun.

Posted by: Iblis at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (9221z)

120 Three body problem.

And

The dark forest.

By cixin liu

Posted by: Mike mike at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (EAslP)

121 @72.

Dyson Sphere has been proven impossible. There can be no gravity inside a sphere.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (+B2CV)

122 111 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (kCfMX)

The "top tier" GOP and the Gaia Granola donks look to the south with the waves of peons and the Castillian Strong Men and say "why not us?"...

Pretty sure they NEVER cared about the Blue Collar GOP's "what about us?"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (g8Hfr)

123 Oh and for the reading selection. I've circled back to Gibbon just to remind myself how elegant, refined English prose is written.

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 01:44 PM (2XJxO)

124 115 Also, not a book but close enough, the History of Rome podcast series (it's on iTunes).

200 episodes, 70+ hours. Freaking incredible!
Posted by: ArthurK at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (h53OH)



I'm so close to finishing that up. Absolutely outstanding. Can't wait to start his other series.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:44 PM (gW5Vg)

125 121 Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (+B2CV)

"heh"

//Earth's Core

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:44 PM (g8Hfr)

126 118 I'm finishing up The Magicians series by Lev Grossman

--

I know a lot of people like that series but I just wanted to punch all the characters in the face. Bunch of narcissistic watbs. Ymmv

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:45 PM (7lVbc)

127 Just as a Ringworld is 'impossible' with current tech, so Niven invented scrith with its impossible tensile strength and ability to block a measurable amount of neutrinos.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:45 PM (RbRGC)

128 Ringworld is one of the great SF novels of all time. Yes, it seems familiar even when you read it the first time. That's because (unconsciously, Niven swears) he was using The Wizard of Oz as a sort-of pattern. Think about it. Four adventurers setting out to explore a new world, following a Yellow Brick Road that's 600 million miles long!

Niven was one of the few SF authors I liked before discovering Heinlein. His short story collection Neutron Star is also superb.

He and his frequent co-author Jerry Pournelle claim a good deal of the credit for the concept of SDI, Reagan's "Star Wars" idea, and thus for the fall of the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 01:45 PM (txdEq)

129 116 I'm not getting that vibe. Joan of Arc was an ardent (ahem) Catholic and her anti-Hussite letter(s) are well-known and noted by Clemens. Bishops seeking political ends by using heresy laws are another thing.
Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2016 01:42 PM (JBggj)

===================

It's the difference between the faith and the Church. I have no idea of his opinion on the faith itself, but he definitely hated the Church. Remember, he lived through some of the Catholic panics in the 19th century where people were *convinced* that Catholics (particularly Irish Catholics) were emigrating to the US to install the Pope as ruler of the country.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (5sBuX)

130 He and his frequent co-author Jerry Pournelle claim a good deal of the credit for the concept of SDI, Reagan's "Star Wars" idea, and thus for the fall of the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 01:45 PM (txdEq)


Also inspired HALO.

Posted by: Iblis at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (9221z)

131 >>>Dyson Sphere has been proven impossible. There can be no gravity inside a sphere.


you could keep building rings of slightly different orbital radii and at slightly different inclinations to the star until you had so many belts turning around the star you effectively made it a sphere (or close to it)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (dciA+)

132 Good stuff. I also eat many of the foods some "fads" tell you not to. Full grains/bread WITH gluten, carbohydrates, olive oil, foods with FAT, meat, eggs, cheese, various condiments. But I watch the overall intake and drink only water. I do avoid most sugar. But that doesn't stop me from indulging when I want. It's just something I don't intake on a regular basis.

Most important- consistent, regular full body exercise, crossfit style and weight training.


Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:40 PM (O0lVq)


Sounds like me.
In the end it's calories in, calories out.

I drink water almost exclusively. Occasionally other things.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (qCMvj)

133 Anyone who wants to lose weight should give weight
training a try. Increase your muscle mass and you'll increase your TDEE
(calories you burn daily). Plus you'll feel better.

Posted by: brak at June 07, 2016 01:33 PM (MJuTN)


I had the opposite effect. Started consistent, not overly strenuous weight lifting some years back, started out around 160, and before I knew it I was over 190. I had no idea! I just thought I was getting toned. I swear, my shirts all seemed to still fit, but good grief, I should never be 190.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

134 "Mutiny in Space" by Rod Walker available on Kindle. Great read.

Posted by: EndOfPatience at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (DDMLG)

135 Tell me about it, Iblis. I started with a Caiaphas Cain book. Now I have an entire bookcase of 40k/Horus Heresy stuff. I don't even play the game.

Posted by: LJIm (Lets Go Pens) at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (9TK8E)

136 Maffetone method, starting with a two-week carb test did wonders for me. I'm not so into running these days, but his formula for calculating target heart rate helped me improve performance dramitically and more easily than I'd have imagined possible.

Robert Lustig, MD at UCSF has several great lectures on YouTube making the case for why sugar is so much worse than we knew before.

I too do IF and have found it to be useful, especially if I've been letting my eating get not so great because of travel or other reasons. I fast one day and find it easier to make better food choices again when finished.

As for books, Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss is excellent once it gets going. Or if you want non-fiction, Born to Run by Christopher McDougall is great storytelling and inspires one to want to run.

Posted by: KillianThyme at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (n2r4H)

137 I've lost 30+ pounds this year, from a high of 195lb down to 162lb, by going zero sugar, almost zero carbs. I do weights 3-4 times a week, Monday through Thursday, and on those days I eat lots of protein rich food. On weekends I go full ketogenic and get lots of cardio from walking/running.

Posted by: pete at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (meg+g)

138 >>can I ask what the parameters of your expertise are in this field?

Boy, sure seems to be a lot of freelance biochemists out there.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:34 PM (dciA+)
<<

Whoa there. You mean the same people who told us to not eat real butter and eggs, then plied a generation of people with stuff that ended up like spackle in their heart valves?

A balanced diet and exercise is a combination that's been consistently proven as a healthy combination. Your body need many of the "food" or "ingredients" most of the fad du jour tells you not to consume. The only thing I regularly avoid is sugar.

If you train your body with the way you eat, the things you consume and the amount of physical activity you perform you can generally live a very healthy life. I don't believe in fasting because it destroys that balance.

I wasn't being trite or trying to misinform by the way. You seem to take offense at my comment.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (O0lVq)

139 Tried IF, hard to do but seems ok. I've been trying sugar-free days, also hard, but that seems important.

For Sci-Fi, try the old H. Beam Piper books, if you can. Modern sci-fi mostly has...issues. You also might like David Drake or John Ringo. For Fantasy, can't beat Glen Cook. I like his sci-fi, too. The Dragon Never Sleeps cries out to be a series, to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (hR1Jj)

140 Moonwalking with Einstein by Joshua Foer

How to fail at almost everything and still win big - by Scott Adams

Posted by: Daniel at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (pGO5O)

141 I drink water almost exclusively. Occasionally other things.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (qCMvj)

Oh yeah, me too, as long as it's coffee infused.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (7lVbc)

142 >>Three body problem.

By cixin liu


I have been waiting for someone's endorsement on this one.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (I8Bd1)

143 torquewrench at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM

Hi torque, made the same point in an email to ace months ago-- you did it much better though........

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (2XJxO)

144 See Ace ... you worry too much.

When the Civil Unrest starts, and the power goes out and the store shelves are as empty as your gun cabinet ...

... just think of it as an opportunity for Intermittent Fasting. Perhaps combined with some catch-up reading. Pro-Tip; Go long on paperbacks and candles.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM (jeefx)

145 131 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (dciA+)

I always viewed the Sphere craze as an inverted "Hollow Earth" Pulp paean....

"look dinosaurs!"

"Look aliens!"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM (g8Hfr)

146 For real adventure, also with attitude, get just about anything by Peter Hathaway Capstick. I particularly recommend "Death in the Long Grass". Capstick was a Wall Street guy who ditched it to become a professional hunter in Africa. Riveting, occasionally gory reading.

Posted by: Cameron at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM (6aVBb)

147 30 . . . HOWEVER, has there ever been a sci-fi novel or story about a DIFFERENT kind of "ringworld" -- i.e.



A planet, like Mercury, that is "tidally locked" with its sun, so
that one side always faces toward the sun and is super-hot, and the
other side always faces away and thus is super-cold; as a result, there
is an extremely thin "ring" around the planet defining the "sunset edge"
where the sun is just barely visible on the horizon at all times. Thus,
in this "ring," maybe only a mile wide, encircling the whole planet top
top bottom, there is a zone of mid-temperature livability.



Has any famous sci-fi story been set in such a world -- a "ring world" as it were?

*
*
Some of Isaac Asimov's early Robot stories feature that, which was then thought to be the way Mercury was. Now we know it does revolve on its axis and so is not tidally locked. But at least one of the early Robot "puzzle" stories was set there, and there is a twilight or sunset edge in which the robots (and humans in spacesuits) can work in a limited fashion. Take a look at the I, Robot collection.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM (txdEq)

148 >>>For Sci-Fi, try the old H. Beam Piper books, if you can.

which ones? I downloaded one, maybe Space Viking, had trouble getting into it. I want to read some classics of that era.

I was reading some other ones, ones that inspired Traveler (the RPG).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (dciA+)

149 IF really isn't that hard - well not for me. The concept makes sense to me from a paleo standpoint. I've gone plenty of days without eating and without even purposely fasting. So its no big deal to go 18 hours without eating from time to time.

I've never done it just on its own, but only in combination with a more paleo diet. So hard to tell whether the IF had any benefit of not.

But it didn't seem to hurt, and I'm willing to accept that there is likely some benefit to it since it occurred from time to time and it was adopted by many cultures - which is evidence that there is some value to it.

Posted by: SH at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)

150 >>>Now we know it does revolve on its axis and so is not tidally locked.

it's spin-locked in a 3:2 resonance

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (dciA+)

151 I am currently reading The (Mis)behavior of Markets: A Fractal View of Financial Turbulence by Benoit Mandelbrot and completing my yearly reread of Warlock by Oakley Hall.



The first, I would recommend to quant or fractal geometry geeks.




The second, I would recommend to everybody. It is one of my top ten favorite books. As a bonus, there it was sorta turned into a movie starring Richard Widmark, Henry Fonda and Anthony Quinn in 1959. The movie actually messes with the plot of the book so much that all of the greek morality play undertones are lost and all that is left is a fairly standard western shootum up... but still it is fairly good fun.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (3JA/M)

152

Watched Zootopia last night. Was I warned against it here?

It was a "gift" from hubby, who thought I would like the animals, etc. It was cute. Heavy social engineering, but cute.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (qCMvj)

153 I had the opposite effect. Started consistent, not overly strenuous weight lifting some years back, started out around 160, and before I knew it I was over 190. I had no idea! I just thought I was getting toned. I swear, my shirts all seemed to still fit, but good grief, I should never be 190.

Well if it was muscle you gained you're doing it right. Most people don't do it consistently enough to make those kinds of gains. It will increase your appetite though so you have to watch that.

Posted by: brak at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (MJuTN)

154 Oh my gosh, there is someone else who has read The Dragon Never Sleeps besides me. Yeah that whole universe is interesting in all the details. Cook's Starfisher Trilogy can be considered the Ring Cycle in space with vendettas, feuds, and even dragons.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (RbRGC)

155 In the Burning Times , Facebook will consist of actual faces in a book.

Posted by: Mortimer at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (otCqd)

156 >>Sounds like me.
In the end it's calories in, calories out.
I drink water almost exclusively. Occasionally other things.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:46 PM (qCMvj)
<<

Great minds and all that.

I will only add that a deep faith reduces the overall stress level.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (O0lVq)

157 Lost Fleet Series are good. (two series)
Battlefield Earth
Mission Earth is uneven but interesting
The Rook is quirky but interesting (UK centric)
Ciaphas Cain books (Warhammer 40K)
Altered Carbon (Takeshi Kovacs Novels)
Stainless Steel Rat Books (popcorn for the mind and uneven in quality)

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (jN+3o)

158 One of these days I'm going to go into my library with the cherry wood paneled ceiling and custom bookcases, light a fire in the fireplace, sit in one of the wingback chairs, adjust the over-the-shoulder reading light and read a book....

At least that was the plan when I built the house 24 years ago.

Yeah, one of these days.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (Zs4uk)

159 I bought the original 6 part Greyhawk D ampersand D novel series from the 80s...

waiting on the 1st part by Gary Gygax...

after Grammy gets power I will retreat to my garden and read, reload ammo, and dungeon master until eternity.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (g8Hfr)

160 76 Confession: I have never read any of Asimov's Foundation series.
So that's what I'm doing now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (gW5Vg)
that's a good idea

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:37 PM (qCMvj)


Trump is the Mule.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (OxsRO)

161 And fuck you, you can't have my parfait.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:41 PM (gW5Vg)


Hey, garrett made the rule, not me.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

162 The dark forest is even better.

Movie coming this year.

Posted by: Mike mike at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (EAslP)

163 >>>I've never done it just on its own, but only in combination with a more paleo diet. So hard to tell whether the IF had any benefit of not.

i think it helps. I was doing atkins but atkins had stopped working for me. (In fairness, I made more and more excuses for "slight cheating" so maybe that's why.)

When I combined it with IF the pounds started coming off consistently, until I hit a plateau I couldn't get past.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (dciA+)

164 I love these threads, I learn a shit ton from the moron comments and get great ideas. My follow through is weak but I'm not giving up.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (U+nHb)

165 Highly recommend the Witcher books by Andrzej Sapkowski. Dark gritty fantasy where everyone is awful and no grand destiny will save the kingdom. Kind of like reality, only with boobs and monsters.

The first two, The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are short story collections centered around the main character, Geralt. Good stuff.

The next five are straight on novels, but only the first three have english translations as of now.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (datdl)

166 Oh yeah, me too, as long as it's coffee infused.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (7lVbc)


Oh. Coffee doesn't count. That is life's sustenance.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (qCMvj)

167 155 In the Burning Times , Facebook will consist of actual faces in a book.
Posted by: Mortimer at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (otCqd)

=================

Dear lord, it's Zuckerberg's endgame!

That brilliant bastard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (5sBuX)

168 A planet, like Mercury, that is "tidally locked" with its sun, so that one side always faces toward the sun and is super-hot, and the other side always faces away and thus is super-cold; as a result, there is an extremely thin "ring" around the planet defining the "sunset edge" where the sun is just barely visible on the horizon at all times. Thus, in this "ring," maybe only a mile wide, encircling the whole planet top top bottom, there is a zone of mid-temperature livability.

Has any famous sci-fi story been set in such a world -- a "ring world" as it were?
Posted by: zombie at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (jBuUi)

Niven himself wrote a short story about that and if I weren't a lazy sod I'd google it. It think it was "One Face" or something like that. Plus the most advanced aliens in his series of stories set in a bar -- and again, I'm drawing a blank on titles -- preferred to settle on tidally locked double-planet systems.

Posted by: joncelli, Hoping for An End to It All at June 07, 2016 01:51 PM (Mt8T4)

169 I have been using a 16-8 intermittent fasting protocol for the past four years when I need to lose body fat to make a weight class in my power lifting competitions.

What would you like to know?

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 01:52 PM (10hEu)

170 I had the opposite effect. Started consistent,
not overly strenuous weight lifting some years back, started out around
160, and before I knew it I was over 190. I had no idea! I just thought I
was getting toned. I swear, my shirts all seemed to still fit, but good
grief, I should never be 190.



Well if it was muscle you gained you're doing it right. Most people
don't do it consistently enough to make those kinds of gains. It will
increase your appetite though so you have to watch that.

Posted by: brak at June 07, 2016 01:49 PM (MJuTN)


Heh, yep. The increased appetite part. I think I was hitting the sugar pretty hard. Sodas and such. So it's easy to pretend and not notice.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 07, 2016 01:52 PM (TOk1P)

171 I get what I call the "cocky syndrome."

I lose some weight and then think I can start getting into foods that shouldn't be in my house in the first place. Then it all goest to hell.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 01:52 PM (U+nHb)

172 Fasting is fine, as is chasing carbs, but they both have the same flaw. Eventually you're gonna eat again. Be in situations where you can't fast, and, horror of horrors, you might eat carbs. So, the effects are NEVER long lasting . The only thing that works, and works over the long term, is a balanced diet and portion control. A portion is the size of your palm. That's what you get. Half your plate should be fruits and vegies. The other half is up to you. Argue all you want about low this or high that. That's sells books for Lustig and Taubes, but it DOES NOT work. Good luck...

Posted by: macleod at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (Qf5bp)

173
Speaking of social media, does anyone post in the Politics and Culture board of professional or hobby-type forums?

I do (did), and I'm pretty sure I've been banned from one for calling bias on the (left-wing) moderator. I haven't been back there since I saw that particular thread was closed because it was getting too hot and personal.

Oddly, that's an addiction that's hard to beat. Anonymously arguing with strangers who happen to have the same day job as me and flirting with bannination. Maybe Neo-Neocon has studied this.

Posted by: iforgot at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (pC96u)

174 I fast. Usually from 7pmish to 7am ish. Every day.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (0LHZx)

175 >>Oh yeah, me too, as long as it's coffee infused.

I prefer my water beer infused.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (/tuJf)

176 they say if you eat after you work out more mass is put into muscle.

so maybe adjust to 1pm to 8pm...?
***

Yeah, thought about that some. I do get a LOT of protein in my eating period though. And a ton of water throughout the day, of course. Not nearly as much as I did in my bodybuilding kick about 10 years ago. Current science then was at least a gram of protein for every lb of body weight for size gains Try getting ~ 246 grams of protein in your per day waking hours for a year and a half. Holy Jesus. While making the Met-Rx company wealthy, I drank enough water in a day to fill a wading pool. And got rid of it as evidenced by the rut in the carpet from my office to the restroom.

My only problem with eating after a workout is that for some reason it wires me and delays my sleep.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (DRWGY)

177 Cameron at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM

Huge Capstick fan...

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (2XJxO)

178 I know what I have to do.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (1xUj/)



You damn well better.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

179 >>> have been using a 16-8 intermittent fasting protocol for the past four years when I need to lose body fat to make a weight class in my power lifting competitions.

What would you like to know?

...

I'd like to know if it would help (or hurt) to add in occasional full-day or even two day fasts into the regular 19/5 type daily fast.

Like, does that then reduce total daily energy expenditure and cause your weight to freeze? or does it help drop weight faster? or have no effect?

I'd really like to know that.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:54 PM (dciA+)

180 Heh. See now I'm not the only one to bring up Rothfuss. Yeah, he's milking it. That 2.5 book, dude. It's like when Jordan went back and wrote book zero mid-saga. WTH, man. That's great, but could you kind of finish what you started first? Once you're in flagrante delicto, you don't go back to foreplay.

Posted by: KillianThyme at June 07, 2016 01:54 PM (n2r4H)

181 Right, one of the Robot stories by Asimov revolves around a pool of molten metal and does the robot risk itself and not violate the rules of robotics IIRC.

The first book of Cook's Starfisher Trilogy is called Shadowline and it's all about these two companies on a tidally locked planet fighting for control of the resources. So each hires a professional mercenary company to fight their war. But there are complications beneath the seemingly straight forward story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:54 PM (RbRGC)

182 Try to take away my coffee and you may lose a hand.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 01:54 PM (O0lVq)

183 I'm really bad at fasting. I keep trying to get serious about it but I never do.


Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (dFi94)

184 48
Mistborn is good.



So far, The Stormlight Archives is great.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:28 PM (I8Bd1)





THIS.



Sanderson is outstanding.



CoAlex has come up with a plan, that AtC and I fully endorse, to see
if we can get Sanderson to follow GRRM around a Con while dressed as
the Grim Reaper.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 01:32 PM (gW5Vg)
That would be fantastic. And I agree, Stormlight is great as well.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (WuRdh)

185 I liked Ringworld.

I recommend "Lucifer's Hammer" by Niven and Pournell. Classic SMOD story with some great twists.

Posted by: Alphabaker at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (s+gIW)

186 Avoid processed foods. Processed foods means lots of added sugar and all sorts of chemicals. Avoid that shit and you can eat whatever you want.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (0LHZx)

187 Weight Watchers Works.

Just does. Sensible, and you have group support and accountability. You can join online (cheaper), or do the online + in-person meetings with the weigh-in, which, believe it or not, really Does help with your motivation. They've shifted more toward low-carb, high protein, but are balanced overall and very healthy: my doctor couldn't stop RAVING about my bloodwork, and I've lost 25 lbs.

Also, anyone over FIFTY: get with the weight training and start easing out of the cardio. Strength training is the bomb, and it will help you maintain that nice muscle tone. (It's not just the ladies who get "bingo wing" arms, folks.) I'd recommend working with a personal trainer for at least a couple of sessions: proper form in weight training is CRITICAL.

Posted by: Beverly at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (zge9P)

188 150
>>>Now we know it does revolve on its axis and so is not tidally locked.



it's spin-locked in a 3:2 resonance.

*
*
I knew there was some catch to what I said even as I typed it. But the basic situation is no longer that one face of Mercury is eternally turned to the sun and one face turned eternally away, right?

Come to think of it, there is an early Larry Niven story called "One Face," in which a group of human passengers on a star liner wind up in the very very far future, when the Earth no longer rotates. Characteristically, his characters don't give up and die, they make plans to live -- by rotating the Earth back up to speed. Neat stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (txdEq)

189 I lose some weight and then think I can start getting into foods that shouldn't be in my house in the first place. Then it all goest to hell.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 01:52 PM (U+nHb)


Yeah, that is the key. Don't buy it in the first place. (Or make it)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (qCMvj)

190 Ace,

You will see a lot of information regarding supplementing with Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAAs) during the fasting window if you are physically active.

The BCAA part is not for you. They are for someone like myself who does very heavy weight training.

You can use BCAAs if you want to, but it is a waste of money. They are expensive and they taste like battery acid.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (10hEu)

191 Re sci-fi: The Foundation trilogy by Asimov is a fun classic.

Posted by: Beverly at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM (zge9P)

192 Lone Star Planet by H Beam Piper... Texas immigrates to the stars, and politicians are NOT a protected species.

fun, quick, short read

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20121/20121-h/20121-h.htm

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM (iRosR)

193 161 Hey, garrett made the rule, not me.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

Behold this field.....


You're not getting my parfait.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM (gW5Vg)

194 I've got the print version of Podkayne of Mars, and the kindle version. In the print version, RAH was forced to change the ending, allowing Podkayne to survive. In the Kindle version, it's the original, as the author originally intended, version, in which Podkayne does not survive.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM (i2t8l)

195 >> See now I'm not the only one to bring up Rothfuss. Yeah, he's milking it. That 2.5 book, dude.


Slow Regard...was not a 2.5 Book.

The author's Note made that perfectly clear.

And, it might be my favorite writing of his. Right up there with The Lightning Tree.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (I8Bd1)

196 >>> get what I call the "cocky syndrome."

I lose some weight and then think I can start getting into foods that shouldn't be in my house in the first place. Then it all goest to hell.

...

that's what I do. I convince myself I've tamed my hyperinsulinism and am now Just a Normal Weight Normal Person so now I can do whatever!

and then... well, see, it works for a couple of months. for a couple of months your body does resist weight gain.

then one day, your body stops resisting.

I have to remember that.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (dciA+)

197
Object-Oriented Programming in ColdFusion
...by Matt Gifford

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (UypUQ)

198 That would be fantastic. And I agree, Stormlight is great as well.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (WuRdh)



*waves Team Wit and Team Jasnah flags*

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

199 I always viewed the Sphere craze as an inverted "Hollow Earth" Pulp paean....

"look dinosaurs!"

"Look aliens!"
Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:48 PM (g8Hfr)

"Look, Deros!"

Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (7HtZB)

200 Lone Star Planet by H Beam Piper... Texas immigrates to the stars, and politicians are NOT a protected species.

fun, quick, short read



Fun, quit, & short. Redundant. LOL.
Especially if it's open season.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (LwB8i)

201 Plus the most advanced aliens in his series of stories set in a bar --
and again, I'm drawing a blank on titles -- preferred to settle on
tidally locked double-planet systems.

*
*
The "Draco Tavern" series.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (txdEq)

202 "Trump is the Mule"

First speaker.

Or the Hamish women who turned out to be a trap.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (jN+3o)

203 "He and his frequent co-author Jerry Pournelle claim a good deal of the
credit for the concept of SDI, Reagan's 'Star Wars' idea, and thus for
the fall of the Soviet Union."

Somewhat apropos of ace's previous thread:

Jerry Pournelle had a quiet inside network of conservative contacts inside the Reagan White House, promoting things like ballistic missile defense.

He recalls what happened in the one week following the inauguration of Poppy Bush in January of 1989 -- the sweeping purge. Every single one of Pournelle's conservative contacts were *gone*, replaced by what he terms "the country club set".

Fast forward a couple of decades to a GOP wondering where it all went so terribly wrong. Well, perhaps the inflection point was just where Dr. P says.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (noWW6)

204 Oh yeah, me too, as long as it's coffee infused.



I prefer my water beer infused.





Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 01:53 PM (/tuJf)

Either is really good.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (3JA/M)

205 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 01:55 PM (0LHZx)
=================================================


True. I try to go with the rule "if God made it, I'll eat it. If a guy in a building in Cleveland made it, I won't."

Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (dFi94)

206 If you find a copy of the Ace printing of "Lone Star Planet" it is published as a double-feature with another Piper story called "Four Day Planet."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (RbRGC)

207 199 Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (7HtZB)

Heh, the notion is the same though "like here but different."

I do kind of miss Land of the Lost in a way I never thought possible at the time.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (g8Hfr)

208 >>You're not getting my parfait.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM


So. You are one of those 'Modern Men' Ace warned us about?


Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (I8Bd1)

209 Hey Ace,

You should read the Man/Kzin Wars, if you like Ringworld. It's similar in tone to the Dumarest books, but instead of following one man, it's humanity's struggle to survive.

It's pretty great.

Posted by: Soberpundit at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (K42zF)

210 Object-Oriented Programming in ColdFusion
...by Matt Gifford
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (UypUQ)


ColdFusion is still around?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (qCMvj)

211 A planet, like Mercury, that is "tidally locked" with its sun, so that one side always faces toward the sun and is super-hot, and the other side always faces away and thus is super-cold; as a result, there is an extremely thin "ring" around the planet defining the "sunset edge" where the sun is just barely visible on the horizon at all times. Thus, in this "ring," maybe only a mile wide, encircling the whole planet top top bottom, there is a zone of mid-temperature livability.

Has any famous sci-fi story been set in such a world -- a "ring world" as it were?

Posted by: zombie at June 07, 2016 01:30 PM (jBuUi)

++++

It used to be thought that Mercury didn't rotate, but that is no longer the case. It actually does rotate, though very slowly.

Mercury is tidally or gravitationally locked with the Sun in a 3:2 resonance, and rotates in a way that is unique in the Solar System. As seen relative to the fixed stars, it rotates on its axis exactly three times for every two revolutions it makes around the Sun. As seen from the Sun, in a frame of reference that rotates with the orbital motion, it appears to rotate only once every two Mercurian years. An observer on Mercury would therefore see only one day every two years.

One of its year is about 88 Earth days, so one of its days last about 66 Earth days.

Niven wrote a short story set on Mercury back in the early, "The Coldest Place". When he wrote it, he went when the theory that Mercury didn't rotate. By the time it was published a couple of years later, the theory was known to be wrong.

He has an author's note about it in the "Tales of Known Space" collection of his early short stories.

This, my first story, became obsolete before it was printed. Mercury does have an atmosphere, and rotates once for every two of its years.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (R+30W)

212 Plus the most advanced aliens in his series of stories set in a bar --



Han shot first.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (LwB8i)

213 >>>I knew there was some catch to what I said even as I typed it. But the basic situation is no longer that one face of Mercury is eternally turned to the sun and one face turned eternally away, right?

yeah it rotates three times for every two orbits. for a long time it was thought to be 1:1 tidally locked.

it turns out that many things that are tidally locked are 3:2 tidally locked -- 3:2 is a stable resonance that works for a tidally locked body, same as 1:1 does.

1:1 is more common, but 3:2 appears out there. One of Saturn's moons, I think, is 3:2 locked.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (dciA+)

214 What kind of stress does this fasting put on your heart?

Once your sugar crashes and body chemistry is all fucked up, what kind of signals is that sending to the nervous system and what kind of damage is happening to the cardio-vascular side of things?

Fasting used to be a part of a natural existence, not something you do by choice. However, that's also when people dropped dead at 42.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (Zs4uk)

215 TeamRawDog, any thoughts on eating coconut oil? MCFA As in, a teaspoon or two a day. I'm not sure if I'm spinning my wheels on that one.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (U+nHb)

216 I have to admit, beyond The Flying Saucer, Lost Planet Airmen and The Mysterious Island- I don't get most sci-fi movies or books for that matter.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (O0lVq)

217 Sven, so what is Rendezvous with Rama then?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (RbRGC)

218 Currently reading Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Historical fiction set in 1840s Texas/Mexican American War. Seems very well researched, at least so far as I can compare with my limited knowledge of the period, mostly from Noah Smithwicks Evolution of a State (fantastic) and my other assorted mid 19th century Americana (e.g. Twain, HB Stowe etc).

But mostly beautifully written, and writing about imperfect people having to do everything just to survive in a world that not only doesn't give a damn, but is mostly, actively trying to kill you.

Just like Oberlin apparently.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (k8tEg)

219 Sorry, I can't quit Twitter, even after all their anti-conservative jihad. It's just too easy to get my message out.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (laMCB)

220 You can use BCAAs if you want to, but it is a waste of money. They are expensive and they taste like battery acid.
***

Yeah, there's a number of supplements out there like that put out to sell and unless you're really hitting the iron hard and constant, all it's going to do is give you very expensive urine.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (DRWGY)

221 true FB story...

i had this: http://link.springer.com/ article/10.1007/s11457-016-9158-3
on the USS Independence post nuke testing open for weeks, and went to poast it on FB today, as part of a campaign to close down some of the bazillion or so tabs i have open in FF, and maybe make it a tad more stable...

guess what was in the sidebar on FB when i reloaded that tab, so i could poast it?


Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (iRosR)

222 I was going to make a joke about intermittent fasting and not getting totally swoll but it looks like the other jacked morons beat me to it.

BTW cheap BCAAs do not taste like battery acid, they taste like rotten, raw asparagus with a medicinal edge that vaguely reminds me of the Augmentin I struggled with as a child. I had to think for a very long time as to what they reminded me of so I feel strongly about my characterization. Some of the flavored varieties are actually quite good but it's stupid to spend five times the money because you can't get used to something that tastes like ass. You can't discipline your muscles if you can't discipline your palette.

But yes, there are many, many other things to spend your money on before BCAAs.

Posted by: 0302 at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (wx6iv)

223 For everyone saying oh drink water instead of caffeine, there's caffeinated water out there.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (mf5HN)

224 >>>What kind of stress does this fasting put on your heart?

Once your sugar crashes and body chemistry is all fucked up, what kind of signals is that sending to the nervous system and what kind of damage is happening to the cardio-vascular side of things?


...

none really. your sugar does not "crash." Your body tells your fat cells to start releasing fat so they can be burned for fuel.

blood glucose dips a bit in the beginning of a fast but then returns to normal.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (dciA+)

225 214 What kind of stress does this fasting put on your heart?

Once your sugar crashes and body chemistry is all fucked up, what kind of signals is that sending to the nervous system and what kind of damage is happening to the cardio-vascular side of things?

Fasting used to be a part of a natural existence, not something you do by choice. However, that's also when people dropped dead at 42.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (Zs4uk)

=======================

I've never read anything that said it put extra stress on your heart. Your body is designed to pull from your fat to function.

Also, I don't think we were dying around 42 all the time because our heart tended to give out all the time. Probably had more to do with general cleanliness, disease, and lack of any decent medical care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (5sBuX)

226 Would eating an entire bag of little powdered donuts be healthier than eating just a few extra large blueberry jelly donuts?

Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (6xtq3)

227 Can't fast - I get headaches which can turn into migraines.*
I think it's bad for my blood sugar (not diabetic but type 2 runs in the family)

*which can turn into puke fests which is one way to lose weight but it makes dying seem attractive

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (7lVbc)

228 "allowing Podkayne to survive"

In the version I read the book ended with her hanging by a thread.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (j2xmV)

229 I try to hit the gym 4-5 days a week and when I don't I take long walks ranging from 4-5.5 miles. I've been doing mostly cardio for the last few months because I hurt my wrist doing dead lifts because I was trying to do too much. I'm starting to ease back into weight lifting though.

Afterwards, I make myself a protein smoothie consisting of a banana and sometimes strawberries with Greek yogurt and milk. I was adding peanut butter for extra protein but I stopped adding it recently because they seem to taste better without it and because cutting calories.

Lately though I make an excuse to have some ice cream because I'm having it in a small cone. But the problem is sometimes I have two or three of these small cones. It's usually strawberry or mint chocolate chip ice cream.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (BDZWU)

230 >>>urrently reading Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Historical fiction set in 1840s Texas/Mexican American War. Seems very well researched, at least so far as I can compare with my limited knowledge of the period, mostly from Noah Smithwicks Evolution of a State (fantastic) and my other assorted mid 19th century Americana (e.g. Twain, HB Stowe etc).

...

i read that last year during my Wild West kick.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (dciA+)

231 "Also, anyone over FIFTY: get with the weight training and start easing
out of the cardio. Strength training is the bomb, and it will help you
maintain that nice muscle tone."

Resistance training is hugely important in keeping bone from melting away.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (noWW6)

232 217 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (RbRGC)

Arthur Clarke's inversion of Columbus' Journey to the Americas...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (g8Hfr)

233 >>223
For everyone saying oh drink water instead of caffeine, there's caffeinated water out there.
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:01 PM (mf5HN)
<<

APOSTATE!

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (O0lVq)

234 211 . . . Niven wrote a short story set on Mercury back in the early, "The Coldest
Place". When he wrote it, he went when the theory that Mercury didn't
rotate. By the time it was published a couple of years later, the theory
was known to be wrong.

He has an author's note about it in the "Tales of Known Space" collection of his early short stories.

This,
my first story, became obsolete before it was printed. Mercury does
have an atmosphere, and rotates once for every two of its years.
*
*
Niven says he actually asked the editor, Frederik Pohl, if he should return the check, since his story was inaccurate. Pohl, being a gentleman, said No Way. The science was thought correct when we accepted the story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (txdEq)

235 218 Currently reading Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Historical fiction set in 1840s Texas/Mexican American War. Seems very well researched, at least so far as I can compare with my limited knowledge of the period, mostly from Noah Smithwicks Evolution of a State (fantastic) and my other assorted mid 19th century Americana (e.g. Twain, HB Stowe etc).

But mostly beautifully written, and writing about imperfect people having to do everything just to survive in a world that not only doesn't give a damn, but is mostly, actively trying to kill you.

Just like Oberlin apparently.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (k8tEg)

================

McCarthy's best book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (5sBuX)

236 "Would eating an entire bag of little powdered donuts be healthier than eating just a few extra large blueberry jelly donuts?"

If they weigh less. I think both are mostly carbohydrates and they all are about the same by weight.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (j2xmV)

237 Can't fast - I get headaches which can turn into migraines.*
I think it's bad for my blood sugar (not diabetic but type 2 runs in the family)

*which can turn into puke fests which is one way to lose weight but it makes dying seem attractive
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (7lVbc)


because it messes with your hormone levels, which is how migraines can form too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:03 PM (qCMvj)

238 >>>an't fast - I get headaches which can turn into migraines.*
I think it's bad for my blood sugar (not diabetic but type 2 runs in the family)

yeah this happens to me when I begin the fasting regime but tends to go away.

I saw one guy say "The problem is, your body is lacking *salt*, which you didn't have because you were fasting."

I don't know if that's true, but I recently drank a cup of salted water to see if it would make the headache go away. I don't know if it worked because I'd also taken aspirin.

but that does tend to go away.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:04 PM (dciA+)

239 The experts at Wikipedia say that the 3:2 rotation resonance of Mercury is unique in this solar system. But, they don't source that particular claim.
http://tinyurl.com/jjmo9o8

Maybe they are just counting planets or stuff that are in direct orbit of the Sun. Or maybe they are just full of shit.'

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 02:04 PM (R+30W)

240 219 Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at June 07, 2016 02:00 PM (laMCB)

I was out and then that idiot Piers Morgan PULLED ME BACK IN...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 02:04 PM (g8Hfr)

241 *ahem*

Again....behold this field...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at June 07, 2016 02:04 PM (gW5Vg)

242 If I fast for more than 12 hours or so I start to get extra stabby.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:04 PM (I8Bd1)

243 >>>because it messes with your hormone levels, which is how migraines can form too

people with hyperinsulinism and insulin resistance *need* to mess with their hormone levels. their hormone levels are out of whack and need to be reset.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)

244
True. I try to go with the rule "if God made it, I'll eat it. If a guy in a building in Cleveland made it, I won't."
Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (dFi94)

___

Heh. Nice way to put it.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (0LHZx)

245 Can't comment. Batin'.

Posted by: Corona at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (ragzU)

246 I've bragged about this before, but I've lost 42 pounds since Jan 1st. I took up a form of fasting that I'd heard about where you don't eat your fist meal until late in the morning, or early in the afternoon. You essentially extend the fast until that time. It wasn't hard to get used to, at all.

I also decided to try to get fit. This was hard because I had my hips replace five years ago, and they don't work. And when the don't work, that's painful as hell.

When it was clear I would not get any help from the medical community, I decided to devise my own exercises that I could work around, and that turned out really well.

I eventually joined the Crossfit community and the experience so far, has been great.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (4ng05)

247 I had a LiveJournal, and followed a others' journals, back in 2000 and quickly saw what a waste of time it was. Dropped it after about a month. Next willing foray into social media was FB around 2006. That too only lasted about a month. Quickly saw how vapid it was and simply couldn't wrap my head around people whose lives revolve around FB posts. Twitter seems even worse, IMO.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (4SznG)

248 >>>179
I'd like to know if it would help (or hurt) to add in occasional full-day or even two day fasts into the regular 19/5 type daily fast.

Like, does that then reduce total daily energy expenditure and cause your weight to freeze? or does it help drop weight faster? or have no effect?

I'd really like to know that.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 01:54 PM (dciA+)

____________

I have done full day fasts on non-lifting days before with no ill effects. However I would only recommend doing full day fasts after your body is adapted to using fat as a fuel source. Otherwise you will be hungry and miserable.

You mentioned that you know when you are in ketosis, which is a good sign you are using fat primarily as a fuel source. Are you using keto sticks or testing you blood for beta hydroxybutyrate?

As far as benefiting from additional fat loss, yes you will see a benefit however your body weight may not go down in a straight line due to fluctuating water weight.

But you will lose weigh faster that way. Definitely.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)

249 In the version I read the book ended with her hanging by a thread.



Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (j2xmV)


It was hinted that she would survive. In the kindle version, no such luck, and it really changes the story. We're left with Clarke struggling with quite a bit of guilt, as he realizes he's not the infallible super genius he thought he was.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (i2t8l)

250 If doing X causes a migraine, it's your body's way of telling you DO NOT DO X!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (0LHZx)

251 >>> The experts at Wikipedia say that the 3:2 rotation resonance of Mercury is unique in this solar system. But, they don't source that particular claim.
http://tinyurl.com/jjmo9o8

well there's a moon of a gas giant in 3:2 resonance but I think that might be due to peturbation by other moons (in other words, it's not a two body problem, it's a three body problem, and the other mass is kicking it along and keeping it out of 1:1 resonance)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (dciA+)

252 torquewrench at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM

The GOP establishment, starting with Poppy, all loathed what Reagan stood for. They were marking time from his first inauguration fully intending to purge actual conservatism once Reagan's time was through. They were surprised and disheartened by his success and popularity. Just like run of the mill liberals they are convinced they are right. They truly believe their "middleway", manage the decline program is the right course.

Does anyone else ever wonder why after Reagan's tremendous success his "government is the problem" philosophy was never again promoted by a Republican presidential candidate?

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (2XJxO)

253 Some of the flavored varieties are actually quite good but it's stupid to spend five times the money because you can't get used to something that tastes like ass. You can't discipline your muscles if you can't discipline your palette.
**

Heh. And the thing is, even the bad ones today are a big improvement.

One of my sons grabbed one of my protein shakes a few years ago and said "Wow, dad! This tastes horrible. How do you drink this?"

I said "Sit down son and let me explain to you how a protein drink in the early 80s could taste like drinking an end table."

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (DRWGY)

254 Can't fast - I get headaches which can turn into migraines.*
I think it's bad for my blood sugar (not diabetic but type 2 runs in the family)

*which can turn into puke fests which is one way to lose weight but it makes dying seem attractive
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:02 PM (7lVbc)



One of the few times that I've been scared about living alone is when I had a migraine and was in the bathroom puking my guts out. I came to wedged between the toilet and the bathtub and it took me awhile to figure out that I'd puked so hard I smashed my head on the toilet bowl and knocked myself out. That was rather terrifying.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:07 PM (mf5HN)

255 I have read that IF has different outcomes for men and women. Sorry, don't have the source.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 02:07 PM (U+nHb)

256 >>True. I try to go with the rule "if God made it, I'll eat it. If a guy in a building in Cleveland made it, I won't."

Posted by: grammie winger at June 07, 2016 01:58 PM (dFi94)
<<

I always thought it was "if you can't kill it and grill it or grow it, don't eat it.

But that's just me.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 02:07 PM (O0lVq)

257 >>>. Are you using keto sticks or testing you blood for beta hydroxybutyrate?

keto sticks but I'd like to hear about the blood method, which I know is more accurate.

btw, is there anyway to measure insulin with an at-home test?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:07 PM (dciA+)

258 weight lifting the big muscle groups increases metabolism.....make sure you eat 5 small healthy meals a day, drink plenty of water .......eat one cheat meal a week to keep your system from plateauing .....protein, complex carbs, vegetables.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 07, 2016 02:08 PM (0O7c5)

259 Cerebus

Posted by: Knemon at June 07, 2016 02:08 PM (4AV0c)

260 I started reading the Lonesome Dove books in chronological (not published) order. Never read them before. They're interesting. Kind of feel like a Three Musketeers set in the American West, so far (only about 1/3 of the way through the first book).

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:08 PM (sxq57)

261 >>>I've bragged about this before, but I've lost 42 pounds since Jan 1st. I took up a form of fasting that I'd heard about where you don't eat your fist meal until late in the morning, or early in the afternoon. You essentially extend the fast until that time. It wasn't hard to get used to, at all.

congrats! that's the Intermittent fasting we're intermittently talking about.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:09 PM (dciA+)

262 William S Lind's 'the Four Generations of Modern War'.

It's not long, and it will help you make sense of the trend that warfare has taken since the Middle Ages to the present day.

Posted by: WKL at June 07, 2016 02:09 PM (G/6mC)

263 I run and bike a lot and have lactic acid issues severely if I cut carbs, so fasting would probably kill me.

Posted by: NCKate at June 07, 2016 02:09 PM (uZ8m1)

264 I used to know a for-real swimsuit model who said that "fasting" was common in her professional community. Not so much the swimsuit models as the runway models.

It was more correctly starvation. Most of these women didn't have enough body fat left to grease a grasshopper's leg joint. They already were as skeletal as concentration camp inmates.

The thing about fasting under those condition is that it turns ketogenic, and ketogenic is only okay if you have a high enough protein intake (which these women did not) or enough baseline skeletal muscle mass to safely cannibalize (which they also did not).

Cue stuff like permanent cardiac impairment.

I said to her, "And all this because they're trying to stay in the favor of male homosexuals in the fashion industry, who prefer the somatotypes of bony 12-year-old boys, not of curvy grown women."

She said, yep, pretty much just that.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 07, 2016 02:09 PM (noWW6)

265 I have an account but I haven't put anything on Faceplant in years. Not worth the professional risk.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (hLRSq)

266 I blame Trump! He's broken social media. By the time the election is over our society will be in ashes!

Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (2X7pN)

267 260 Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:08 PM (sxq57)

They are best read that way, read Streets of Laredo and tell me you don't want to throatpunch McMurtry.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (g8Hfr)

268 250 If doing X causes a migraine, it's your body's way of telling you DO NOT DO X!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 07, 2016 02:06 PM (0LHZx)

Amen. I'll do anything to avoid a migraine.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (7lVbc)

269 Totally off topic...

I need a definitive list of essential movies for a 30 something who apparently grew up in a cave - or spent her time reading.

This is the girl my wife recently made a partner in her florist business. Great girl, but how do you function in society if you haven't seen the basic movies?

She has never seen:

The Godfather
Patton
My Fair Lady
Gone With the Wind
Oklahoma
West Side Story
To Catch a Thief

and hundreds of others.

Just as you shouldn't be able to graduate from college without reading the classics, you shouldn't be able to graduate without seeing the movies that form a basis of thought and speech throughout society.

We're open for suggestions.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (Zs4uk)

270 Tried to post a longer reply but keep getting a 505 error.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (k8tEg)

271 people with hyperinsulinism and insulin resistance *need* to mess with their hormone levels. their hormone levels are out of whack and need to be reset.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)


I was talking about migraines, which I've had since I was in my teens, but now control them almost 100%.

My hormone levels are directly related to my migraines.

(I've tried the fasting fads too, btw. Years ago, when it was all the rage then, but mostly for "detoxing." It's not in my nature. It might be in yours. We're all built differently. To each his/her own. But it can be dangerous for some.)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (qCMvj)

272 I liked alot of Niven's stuff.
Protector, Crashlander, and the Fleet of World (co-authored) series are all good, and take place in the Ringworld "universe".
I'm just reading Forever Peace. Not as good as Forever War by Haldeman. I just finished All you Need is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka. It was the basis of the movie Edge of Tomorrow. Groundhog Day meets alien invasion.
Posted by: Iblis
..............
Did you ever read the Gil Hamilton stories? lotsa fun.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (so+oy)

273 I've never read any real sci-fi. I've read just about every Star Wars novel, but I know they don't count as real sci-fi.

Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (7HtZB)

274
I'm out of Twitter and on Instagram but haven't posted in months. I'll depart Facebook when I step down as Scoutmaster in a few years or when we convert our records DB later this year. About 4 out of every 5 FB posts are Scout-related.

"Social" media is a complete misnomer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (fOgSR)

275 i do a fast through a program.....the first time you do it you feel like shit, your body gets rid of all the toxins.....after that....the fasting is easier and you actually feel buzzed......i'm able to clean the entire house on those days....the problem is....if you go off the program and eat sugars and crap you shouldn't....the fast is like the first time....you'd think i'd learn....but i'm stubborn.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (0O7c5)

276 They are best read that way, read Streets of Laredo and tell me you don't want to throatpunch McMurtry.

Yeah, I've kind of gotten the impression that Streets of Laredo is, um, bad/upsetting or something.

The stuff I was seeing on the internet was all "Whatever you do, DON'T start with Laredo", etc etc...

I mean, you wouldn't as it's not even the first book in either order, but still...

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (sxq57)

277 >>>vAmen. I'll do anything to avoid a migraine.

body rollers (those tubes people use to roll out muscle cramps) are really good for migranes.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (dciA+)

278 OK I'll try the shorter version.
If you haven't read Smithwick you owe it to yourself.
Also, the Coronado Expedition memoirs.
Anything from Lakeside Classics (mostly firsthand accounts, which are of course the only interesting and true ones)

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (k8tEg)

279 273 Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (7HtZB)

b/c real sci fi needs to be depressing, and full of SJW goodness...

//Non Sad Puppies

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (g8Hfr)

280 Re: Intermittent fasting.

Started practicing IF last year, though I don't hold to it all that strictly (generally about 4-5 days a week I fast for 12-16 hours, basically by skipping breakfast and not eating snacks in the morning). This led to me eating less in total and subsequently losing 25 pounds, bringing me from the middle of the overweight weight range for my height to the upper part of the healthy weight range.

Anecdotally, would absolutely recommend.

Posted by: Petrus at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (mmpxm)

281 Chitterlings flavored the right way...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (O0lVq)

282 Out of socialist network sites entirely now.

Working my way through the Brother Cadfael series. Liking quite a bit so far!

Frankly I've got no time for most of this crap. Between work and dad I'm amazed I even have time to waste here! Barely seen friends in person in weeks...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (9krrF)

283 *looks up to stay abreast of thread whilst reading Beyond Humanity and eyes widen*

Yikes and away AlextheChick. Waking up in that spot glad nothing was broke on you. Scary.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (RbRGC)

284 I'd cross The Godfather off the list and add Th Three Amigos.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (I8Bd1)

285 Thanks to everyone who replied about the tidally locked "ring world" concept. I have read all the comments!

Posted by: zombie at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (jBuUi)

286 I have an account but I haven't put anything on Faceplant in years. Not worth the professional risk.

I feel the same way. People have a hard time with my type of sarcastic humor. Only those that know me well tend to get it. Others, not so much!

Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (2X7pN)

287 Does sleep fasting count?

Busy reading Chernow's treatment of our Founding Bisexual, Xe Hamilton!
Reread Federalist #70 with this in mind and it completely changes the meaning. Coming to a Roberts opinion soon!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (mvUP9)

288 a "ring world" as it were?

A Philip Dick? where they drive from one side to the other twice a year?

Posted by: DaveA at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (DL2i+)

289 We're all built differently. To each his/her own. But it can be dangerous for some


--

I very much agree!
While a lot of stuff works for many, nothing works for everyone.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (7lVbc)

290 So, I'm guessing that Samuel Clemons and Father Michael J. McGivney, while both living in Connecticut, were not the best of friends.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 07, 2016 02:14 PM (1ijHg)

291 276 Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:12 PM (sxq57)

Some authors are not content to just let things go...so they take the sandbox they built apart with a crowbar, chop the pieces up with an ax, set it on fire with napalm and then nuke the sand to glass just to make sure.

Streets of Laredo is that.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 07, 2016 02:14 PM (g8Hfr)

292 The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton

"You cored the poor bastard out."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:14 PM (RbRGC)

293 ->10 I fast intermittently .Can't eat while I'm sleeping.

Careful about that. If you wake up with no pillow, you may be just a bit down in the mouth...

Posted by: Natrium at June 07, 2016 02:14 PM (uEGn1)

294 congrats! that's the Intermittent fasting we're intermittently talking about.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:09 PM (dciA+)

Oh. I thought intermittent meant... you know... intermittent. Joking. I thought it was not like an everyday type thing.

The thing I like about it is it seems to automatically shrink your stomach to the point where portion control is not a problem.

I haven't given up simple carbs totally, but I've limited them extensively. I only eat one small piece of flatbread with breakfast (anywhere from 11am to 1pm) and then 1 additional small meal is all I need for the rest of the day.

I have a protein shake mid afternoon.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:14 PM (4ng05)

295 She has never seen:

The Godfather
Patton
My Fair Lady
Gone With the Wind
Oklahoma
West Side Story
To Catch a Thief

and hundreds of others.

Just as you shouldn't be able to graduate from college without reading the classics, you shouldn't be able to graduate without seeing the movies that form a basis of thought and speech throughout society.

We're open for suggestions.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (Zs4uk)

I haven't seen at least 4 of those, and I've survived ok.

Posted by: Blano at June 07, 2016 02:15 PM (lbcdD)

296 The Godfather
Patton
My Fair Lady
Gone With the Wind
Oklahoma
West Side Story
To Catch a Thief

--

Princess Bride
It Happened One Night

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:15 PM (7lVbc)

297 169 Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (Zs4uk)

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That depends. Is your focus the cultural impact of film or the artistic merit of the artform?

There'd be a lot of crossover, but the artisitic merit would go some weird places the cultural bit wouldn't.

Citizen Kane
Metropolis
Chinatown
Raging Bull
Taxi Driver
Apocalypse Now
The Longest Day
Badlands
2001: A Space Odyssey

Would be some examples of "cultural"

If you wanted to look at the artistic merits, I'd include everything above as well as:

The Passion of Joan of Arc
El Topo
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Days of Heaven
The Thin Red Line
The Tree of Life (I'm personally a huge Terrence Malick fan...so he might be overrepresented)
The Last Temptation of Christ

Just a start, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:15 PM (5sBuX)

298 Inhabitable tidally locked planets come in two varieties: Edgeworlds, which are habitable at the edge between the hot side and cool side, so called "Twilight Worlds" where the sun is always just above the horizon, and Poleworlds, which are inhabitable at the poles, which do not experience severe day/night temperature changes.

Posted by: The Journal of the Travelers Aid Society at June 07, 2016 02:16 PM (dciA+)

299 Some authors are not content to just let things go...so they take the sandbox they built apart with a crowbar, chop the pieces up with an ax, set it on fire with napalm and then nuke the sand to glass just to make sure.

Streets of Laredo is that.

***

In my house, that's referred to as the Highlander 2 effect.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 07, 2016 02:16 PM (DRWGY)

300 "Book recommendations, anyone?"

He may have passed, but if you're good for a funny; Pratchett is my favorite author bar none.

Dresden Files series by Jim Butcher (I think that's correct for author) is a recent pickup for me. I saw the single season on Netflix a few years back, and decided to try the novels.

Simon R Green (I think, again from memory) the "Nightside" series; comparable in many ways to the Dresden Files series. Other decent series from him as well (Droog family, new ghost chaser series, etc.) most generally in the same "multiverse".

David Eddings, another one of my favorite authors.
If you want a lot of reading, the Belgariad/Malloreon is 12 books (I skip the Rivan Codex).

For slightly less reading, The Elenium and Tamuli series is 6 books total. Also covering a nice "epic saga".

Or, for a quicker read. The Redemption of Althalus is a single book that gets through what could be a multi-book series if he wanted.

A few of his non-sci-fi attempts (The Losers, Regina's Song) were also ones I enjoyed.
"The Losers" is a fictional account that covers the Social Worker/Welfare system in a manner that most Conservatives would agree with (while still being a well rounded book with a plot that comes together).

If you're looking for older style (ala Ringworld) did you ever catch "Vampire$" or "Armor" by John Steakley?
"Armor" is a psychological one, futuristic powered armor vs the ants sort of thing.

And that's probably enough suggestions for now.

Posted by: gekkobear at June 07, 2016 02:16 PM (kq7Of)

301 284 I'd cross The Godfather off the list and add Th Three Amigos.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (I8Bd1)

=================

Plebe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:17 PM (5sBuX)

302
Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (Zs4uk)


The Taming of the Shrew (Taylor and Burton)
A Man for All Seasons
The Maltese Falcon
Lawrence of Arabia
The Defiant Ones
In the Heat of the Night

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 02:17 PM (fOgSR)

303 >>The Redemption of Althalus is a single book that gets through what could be a multi-book series if he wanted.

Great Book.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:17 PM (I8Bd1)

304 "Does anyone else ever wonder why after Reagan's tremendous success his 'government is the problem' philosophy was never again promoted by a
Republican presidential candidate?"

Even during the Reagan years proper, the motor was sputtering on rolling back the frontiers of the state.

At the end of the day, we got the abolishment of... the Civil Aeronautics Board.

Why, I still remember that day of limned glory. I was there! The end of the hated tyranny over free citizens which had been the terrible CAB! We stood in serried ranks as the tears of proud victory rolled down our grizzled cheeks.

And, sadly, even Trump the purported revolutionary has a pitch that comes down to "I'm a skilled manager, I'll get the government smoothly running and squared away," instead of a reasoned case that the government is in many cases actively destructive of the ends it purports to serve, is way too expensive, and has to be sharply cut back upon.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 07, 2016 02:17 PM (noWW6)

305 Love Actually

Posted by: TV's Andy Leavy at June 07, 2016 02:18 PM (I8Bd1)

306 I tried IF a while back when Ace first mentioned it. Would have dinner, then nothing else until dinner the next day. It worked well and after doing it a couple of times, I got used to it, and it was not a struggle to skip breakfast and lunch.

I also did not have a problem exercising during the day in the afternoon, knowing that I would be able to have food again in a few hours.

Weight has gradually crept back up a bit and I am going to get on the regime again. It really isn't a big deal to do.

Posted by: RM at June 07, 2016 02:18 PM (U3LtS)

307 you could keep building rings of slightly different orbital radii and at
slightly different inclinations to the star until you had so many belts
turning around the star you


Yikes, talk about failure modes.

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?feature=player_detailpage
v=bdcE3VyKv5U#t=71

Posted by: DaveA at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (DL2i+)

308
Book recommendation - A Canticle for Leibowitz

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (fOgSR)

309 i know a very effective way to lose weight..

develop ulcerative colitis.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (iRosR)

310 @304
Waves and waves of Third World socialist culture immigration and thirty years of progressive indoctrination in the public schools will do that.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (k8tEg)

311 257 >>>. Are you using keto sticks or testing you blood for beta hydroxybutyrate?

keto sticks but I'd like to hear about the blood method, which I know is more accurate.

btw, is there anyway to measure insulin with an at-home test?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:07 PM (dciA+)

_______

The beta hydroxybutyrate blood test is done exactly like a diabetic tests their blood sugar, just with a different meter. You can find the strips and meter on amazon.

Example Here:
http://tinyurl.com/z5z5c36

I don't use this method myself anymore, I got tired of pricking my finger. But it is interesting to mess with and see how the levels move with different activities. The more intense the activities the more you use blood sugar for fuel, so your blood sugar actually lowers and your ketones rise because they aren't being used.

The opposite happens for lower intensity work.

As far as testing insulin levels directly. As far as I know that requires a lab drawing blood. I am not aware of any at home method of directly testing insulin. Only blood sugar instead.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (10hEu)

312 Gene Wolfe, too. Ace.

Can't go wrong with Gene Wolfe.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (I8Bd1)

313 *rummages in the book piles and unearths the book when Terry Pratchett decided to make his own Ringworld - Strata*

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:20 PM (RbRGC)

314 309 i know a very effective way to lose weight..

develop ulcerative colitis.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (iRosR)

===============

I might also recommend getting lost in the Himalayas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:20 PM (5sBuX)

315 Never joined any social media sites. Never will. I simply don't care enough to be "liked". I proactively blacklist 'em through my filters, proxies, and firewalls. I guess I'd join long enough to unjoin if it could help flush certain social toilets.

I do confess to a little commentary here and there on select websites; that's sin enough. But join? That is to say join the progressive fascism of mainstream social media? Nope.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 07, 2016 02:20 PM (1CroS)

316 273
I've never read any real sci-fi. I've read just about every Star Wars novel, but I know they don't count as real sci-fi.

*
*
You could do a lot worse than to start with Robert A. Heinlein's The Past Through Tomorrow collection, his "Future History" stories; Isaac Asimov's I, Robot collection; and Neutron Star (a collection) and Ringworld, both by Larry Niven. I was a Star Trek buff, and didn't like much written SF until I came across these guys.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:20 PM (txdEq)

317 "instead of a reasoned case"

Reason left a long time ago. This election is pure emotion. Trump is courting everyone. Or do you think Megyn doesn't feel courted. Megyn gave Trump her cell phone number.

The Mexican Judge will be kissing Trump's ass befor it's over.

Trump has said everything. That is the same as saying nothing.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:21 PM (jN+3o)

318 How can anyone seeing the daily crap done by the TSA, VA, EPA, DOJ, Secret Service, et al think that more government is the answer!

Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 07, 2016 02:21 PM (2X7pN)

319 (I've tried the fasting fads too, btw. Years ago, when it was all the rage then, but mostly for "detoxing." It's not in my nature. It might be in yours. We're all built differently. To each his/her own. But it can be dangerous for some.)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (qCMvj)




This. Different things work for different people. You find what works for you and you do that.

I have an endocrine system that is best described as theoretical when it's not actively trying to kill me. Most of what passes for modern nutritional advice would be very bad indeed for me to do.

Knock wood my migraines haven't been as bad in the last few years. This is tied directly to the fact that I no longer work for the psycopaths. Now it's mainly tied to hormone fluctuations and, increasingly, changes in weather. Some of that is psychosomatic but most of it is not.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:21 PM (mf5HN)

320 Instead of reading more, I've taken up writing. So far, I've got nearly a books worth of ideas for a book all written out and everything and that was easy as hell, the act of actually turning it into a book - holy crap you'd think it would be easy at this point.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:22 PM (4ng05)

321 312 Gene Wolfe, too. Ace.

Can't go wrong with Gene Wolfe.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (I8Bd1)

I'm rereading the Book of the New Sun now. Also recommend The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories.

Posted by: joncelli, Hoping for An End to It All at June 07, 2016 02:22 PM (Mt8T4)

322 Getting around to some classics, finally read brave New world which was pretty good. There id's a "sequel" bit it's more like an essay and pretty dry so I did read that.
Lots of Philip k dick now, who wrote the books for every sci fi movie basis ever

Posted by: mst3k at June 07, 2016 02:22 PM (XhbCw)

323 I didn't like "A Canticle for Liebowitz."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 07, 2016 02:22 PM (1ijHg)

324 Some authors are not content to just let things go...so they take the sandbox they built apart with a crowbar, chop the pieces up with an ax, set it on fire with napalm and then nuke the sand to glass just to make sure.

Sooo DON'T read it then...lol.

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:23 PM (sxq57)

325 >>>312 Gene Wolfe, too. Ace.

Can't go wrong with Gene Wolfe.

...

i always here that but two of his series don't sound appealing to me -- one about some Wizard/Knight thing, and another one that seems to be a kind of Retro Future where there are bishops and a High Church and also space ships.

apart from those (the premises of which I don't like), which Gene Wolfe?

Posted by: The Journal of the Travelers Aid Society at June 07, 2016 02:23 PM (dciA+)

326 ...nobody ever wants to discuss 'The Slow Regard of Silent Things'.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:23 PM (I8Bd1)

327 "Anyone else out there on IF?"

Yeah, pretty much all of us

Posted by: The Venezuelans at June 07, 2016 02:23 PM (1Rgee)

328 Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:21 PM (mf5HN)

Migraine before a storm / when the barometer drops, right?

Apparently not that uncommon.
My pet theory - our ancestors survived because their heads hurt so they crawled i to the cave just before the storms and flash flood hit.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:24 PM (7lVbc)

329 Personally I link this trend a bit with the prior post on Trump and our establishment elites. Increasingly I find myself edging closer to Rod Dreher's Benedict Option. My social media use is almost nonexistent and I watch s lot less TV. Politically I hate everybody. I kinda feel like seceding from America.

Posted by: A McNease at June 07, 2016 02:24 PM (Zxs9d)

330 Am re-reading The Mongolian Cycle, might good and long if you like sword play.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 07, 2016 02:24 PM (YCHOA)

331 I have an endocrine system that is best described as theoretical when it's not actively trying to kill me. Most of what passes for modern nutritional advice would be very bad indeed for me to do.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:21 PM (mf5HN)



You don't say...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 02:24 PM (gW5Vg)

332 Intermittent Fasting just doesn't work for me. I did it and gained weight, reaching a high of about 38 pounds heavier than my peak running weight.

Now I'm back to extremely low carb and back to running. Lost 10 pounds in about 9 weeks. Meh.

Posted by: chris not rock at June 07, 2016 02:25 PM (U4Ek+)

333 320 Instead of reading more, I've taken up writing. So far, I've got nearly a books worth of ideas for a book all written out and everything and that was easy as hell, the act of actually turning it into a book - holy crap you'd think it would be easy at this point.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:22 PM (4ng05)

================

I just read a good quote from George RR Martin. I'll paraphrase:

Ideas are cheap. I've got more ideas than I could ever develop. It's the execution that matters.

-----

I've written three books and have started the third. Let me just say, you cannot do enough prep work. I did four different outlines over a dozen character profiles, and a bunch of mapping out how individual characters interact with each other over the course of the book. It's about 60 pages worth of prep.

It wasn't enough. I could have done more.

But, I'll force my way through to a 1st draft. Tear that draft apart and write a 2nd draft. I'll start showing that draft to people whose opinions I trust, and then I'll tear apart the 2nd draft to make a 3rd.

It's my process which I've followed (more or less) for all 3. It works pretty well for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:25 PM (5sBuX)

334 Just as you shouldn't be able to graduate from college without reading the classics, you shouldn't be able to graduate without seeing the movies that form a basis of thought and speech throughout society.

We're open for suggestions.

Posted by: jwest


The Good, Bad, and Ugly
North by Northwest
The Shining
The Princess Bride
Planet of the Apes
Chinatown


Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2016 02:25 PM (p2X2f)

335 "effective way to lose weight"

Shows why people say prayer doesn't work. Also a real reason to fear God. You get what you pray for. Pray for good things. If you want to lose weight pray for gentle weight lose over years that leaves you heather and happier.

After a person basks in the glow of weight lose for a few months they get bored and start eating too much. Pray that weight loss is a side effect of a happier life and not a vocation.


Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (jN+3o)

336 Missed the other thread. Not that anyone cares, but I guess I could be considered upper middle class based on my upbringing and income, but I couldn't care less about class divisions. I left the party for ideological reasons and because it finally became clear it is a useless party. I was also surprised to find out I was part of a rather small ideological minority as well.

I am sitting back enjoying Trump being outrageously Trump, shaking my head often, and taking great pleasure when he hits the Grandmonster. But neither Hillary nor her donor will be getting any help from me. I am fully in popcorn mode.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (mBYZv)

337 Wife and I have been intermittent fasting for a while now and works great for us.

We've been very eating/food conscious for a while and found that IF worked great with our schedules. Breakfast never sits right in my stomach and I usually don't get really hungry until around 2 or 3.

My wife is an avid weightlifter and CrossFit coach and I expected she would have trouble with IF due to her workouts and the caloric demand, but she hasn't had any issues. Her window is between 3 and 10pm, mine is a bit smaller and later, 5-12.

Posted by: jreffy at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (KTQHf)

338 instead of a reasoned case"

Reason left a long time ago. This election is pure emotion.



Reason left Nov. 2008.
Cancelled it's forwarding address in 2012.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (LwB8i)

339 I fast for about 36 hours per week-- from Saturday 9:00-9:30pm to Monday 9:30am. 24 hours is probably sufficient for the health benefits. You don't really need to worry about carbs or fats so long as your caloric intake is what it should be. I've had good results from fasting, dedicated exercise, and keeping an eye on # of calories per day.
I've lost 60 pounds since last July and have 12% body fat.

Here's a basic calorie esitmator:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

Posted by: Naes at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (Ypc8j)

340 *fist bumps BC*

Stupid beta meat sacks.

Migraine before a storm / when the barometer drops, right?

Apparently not that uncommon.
My pet theory - our ancestors survived because their heads hurt so they crawled i to the cave just before the storms and flash flood hit.
Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:24 PM (7lVbc)



That makes sense actually.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (mf5HN)

341 I stress eat and with work and school I've not been healthy recently. I'm planning to change all that come August, once I'm a full-time student again.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (ZMzGL)

342 And that's probably enough suggestions for now.
Posted by: gekkobear at June 07, 2016 02:16 PM (kq7Of)

I remember the Eddings books from years ago. I thought they were great.

I enjoyed the hell out of the Dragon Riders series as well.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (4ng05)

343 Dresden Files series by Jim Butcher (I think that's correct for author) is a recent pickup for me. I saw the single season on Netflix a few years back, and decided to try the novels

It *is* Butcher that does the Dresden files. And it's amazing that you started reading the books after that disaster of a show...lol.

The books though, are pretty fun reads. Shit gets interesting at around book 3, although Dresden has gotten a bit overpowered as of book 15...heh. I have my theories, kind of, about what's going on though, with that island, and the original Merlin and whatnot...

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (sxq57)

344 Oh and about dieting, yes I've been doing IF for a couple of years now. Intermittently of course. I like to run or workout in the morning before breakfast just like the military's done forever. Low carb mostly paleo type diet, exercise and skip a meal every now and then b

Posted by: A McNease at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (Zxs9d)

345 284 I'd cross The Godfather off the list and add Th Three Amigos.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:13 PM (I8Bd1)


There are just too many references to dialog and situations in the Godfather to leave it off the list.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (Zs4uk)

346 323 I didn't like "A Canticle for Liebowitz."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo

One of my favorite books. Not for those who need a happy ending.

As far as being a great book and depressing goes though, CFL doesn't hold a candle to "Sea of Glass" by Barry Longyear.

Posted by: The Venezuelans at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (1Rgee)

347 If you are writing a book, join the goodreads group for moral support! Lots of horde writers there.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (7lVbc)

348 Ace... eat healthy. Have a good balance. An apple every day (not kidding) and basically you can eat what you want. Limit your refined sugars. Add to this a 30 minute walk 3-4 times / week and the pounds will fall off. I lost 32lbs in 2 months this way and never gained it back. That was 3 years ago.

Also, if you want to burn fat, do body lifts. Whole body movements, like deadlifts and squats do amazing things for your metabolism and overall health. Just make sure you ease into them.

That's two paragraphs. You don't need a book. You quit smoking, you can do this.

Posted by: Sam In VA at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (bNi5D)

349 Ace,

While I don't Twitter (never really understood the draw there) or any of the other social media, I do belong to a couple of cool sci-fi groups on Facebook.

Check out the group called Space Opera. We do a lot of "What are you reading" threads that will fill up your to-be-read stacks quickly.

My first suggestion would be Peter F Hamilton's Padora's Star. Why? Because it's huge, epic space opera with one of the most well-crafted villians in the history of fiction. And, if that's not enough, it's getting a pilot. They're hoping for a Game Of Thrones treatment (but really...what author isn't?).

Other than that, if you've never read I.M. Banks, I'd start with Player Of Games or Consider Phlebas. The Culture novels are excellent big-idea sci-fi.

Posted by: Scott M at June 07, 2016 02:27 PM (AdBfq)

350 >>>> 329 Personally I link this trend a bit with the prior post on Trump and our establishment elites. Increasingly I find myself edging closer to Rod Dreher's Benedict Option. My social media use is almost nonexistent and I watch s lot less TV. Politically I hate everybody. I kinda feel like seceding from America.

me too. that's why I like books. For one t hing, it's an implicit repudiation of our Television Spectator Culture.

For another -- I'm boycotting major media companies. No, I don't have to see Captain America: Civil War. I'll read a book instad.


For another thing -- so much more rewarding.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (dciA+)

351 Shows why people say prayer doesn't work. Also a real reason to fear God. You get what you pray for.

There's a reason that you should never pray for patience.

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (sxq57)

352 Dead Wake by Erik Larson. The story of the final voyage of the Lusitania, much of it from the perspective of the boat captains. Interesting government is evil undercurrent vis-a-vis the Brits actions (or failure to act) to protect the boat from an expressed threat from the Germans, as well as their placing of munitions on a supposed civilian vessel.

Posted by: steve walsh at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (jOcMm)

353 Just as you shouldn't be able to graduate from college without reading the classics, you shouldn't be able to graduate without seeing the movies that form a basis of thought and speech throughout society.

We're open for suggestions.

Posted by: jwest

The Good, Bad, and Ugly
North by Northwest
The Shining
The Princess Bride
Planet of the Apes
Chinatown



Debbie Does Dallas
Behind the Green Door
Oh, wait. Never mind.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (LwB8i)

354 I've never been on social media. Heck, I find checking email to be a huge chore.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (mBYZv)

355 i know a very effective way to lose weight..

develop ulcerative colitis.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2016 02:19 PM (iRosR)


C diff works for me.

Posted by: Ramalamadingdong at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (RcpcZ)

356 It wasn't enough. I could have done more.

But, I'll force my way through to a 1st draft. Tear that draft apart and write a 2nd draft. I'll start showing that draft to people whose opinions I trust, and then I'll tear apart the 2nd draft to make a 3rd.

It's my process which I've followed (more or less) for all 3. It works pretty well for me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:25 PM (5sBuX)

Thanks for the advice. It is sincerely appreciated.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (4ng05)

357 Great, I've now pulled off the shelves eight books while reading this thread. And I want to read all of them right now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (RbRGC)

358 >>>>343
It *is* Butcher that does the Dresden files. And it's amazing that you started reading the books after that disaster of a show...lol.

The books though, are pretty fun reads. Shit gets interesting at around book 3, although Dresden has gotten a bit overpowered as of book 15...heh. I have my theories, kind of, about what's going on though, with that island, and the original Merlin and whatnot...


Why is he making us wait so long for the next book?! argh.

Posted by: jreffy at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (KTQHf)

359 AtC, I used to have mini-migraines: sinus headaches, I guess, that began with a steady nauseating pain over my left eye, as if a tiny demon were strangling a nerve with a padded cord. When I was younger, said headache would go away after a night's sleep. Later my hangovers often resolved themselves into one of these. When the headaches began to last into the next day or the day after (!), I got a prescription, the Seldane stuff they no longer offer. It worked, but had so much caffeine that I was wired for a day after.

The headaches quietly went away on their own in my early 40s, after I'd dealt with 'em since age 13, and haven't come back for 20 years.

I'm not suggesting my minor but nagging headaches were anything like your migraines. But there may be hope that yours will eventually go away.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (txdEq)

360 Did you ever read the Gil Hamilton stories? lotsa fun.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (so+oy)


Yes! I also went through the whole Man-Kzin series, but that was a tad un-even.

135 Tell me about it, Iblis. I started with a Caiaphas Cain book. Now I have an entire bookcase of 40k/Horus Heresy stuff. I don't even play the game.
Posted by: LJIm (Lets Go Pens) at June 07, 2016 01:47 PM (9TK8E)


I played some of the video games. Read the novel tie-ins and got sucked in. The miniature stuff is way too expensive, and way too much work.

Posted by: Iblis at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (9221z)

361 >>apart from those (the premises of which I don't like), which Gene Wolfe?


Try some of his short story collections?

Storeys from the Old Hotel
Castle of Days
the aforementioned
Island of Doctor Death and Other...

or say fuck it all and don't bother.
There's too many authors to read, anyway.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (I8Bd1)

362

Sweet, new books just delivered!

Not The Boy Who Played with Fusion: Extreme Science, Extreme Parenting, and How to Make a Star yet, as it's on backorder, but I'm in a fusion kick right now.

A Piece of the Sun: The Quest for Fusion Energy
by Daniel Clery
just arrived. I read it's controversial, so can't wait to see what that is all about.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (qCMvj)

363 Ace,

How about Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer?"

You were going to lead a book discussion on it....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 02:30 PM (CddLJ)

364 *fist bumps BC*

Stupid beta meat sacks.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (mf5HN)



Agreed. And you're still not getting my parfait. *spins* *walks away*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 07, 2016 02:30 PM (gW5Vg)

365 265 I have an account but I haven't put anything on Faceplant in years. Not worth the professional risk.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (hLRSq)


I got on FB only because I wanted to keep up with my kids. As soon as I did, they got off of FB because (they said) it was being overrun with older people.

Which suits me. FB was kind of a time waster, anyway, so I dropped it. Don't miss it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 07, 2016 02:30 PM (OxsRO)

366 I am the trendsetter..never joined Facebook, twitter, apt or any other 'social' media

Posted by: ploome at June 07, 2016 02:30 PM (vzZKT)

367 Missed the other thread. Not that anyone cares, but I
guess I could be considered upper middle class based on my upbringing
and income, but I couldn't care less about class divisions. I left the
party for ideological reasons and because it finally became clear it is a
useless party. I was also surprised to find out I was part of a rather
small ideological minority as well.



I am sitting back enjoying Trump being outrageously Trump, shaking
my head often, and taking great pleasure when he hits the Grandmonster.
But neither Hillary nor her donor will be getting any help from me. I
am fully in popcorn mode.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:26 PM (mBYZv)

I am right there with you.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (3JA/M)

368 For another -- I'm boycotting major media companies. No, I don't have to see Captain America: Civil War. I'll read a book instad.


For another thing -- so much more rewarding.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (dciA+)

And even if you want to read a book by a douchebag writer, you can rent it form the library or buy the book second hand, and not give said douchebag any royalties.

Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (7HtZB)

369 126 118 I'm finishing up The Magicians series by Lev Grossman
I know a lot of people like that series but I just wanted to punch all the characters in the face. Bunch of narcissistic watbs. Ymmv Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 01:45 PM (7lVbc)


I describe that series to people as the school of Harry potter in the world of narnia, populated by angsty characters from catcher in the rye. And the antagonist is a Magritte painting. Very good. Have the sequel to it but have not read yet.

Am currently retreading the Temeraire series by Naomi Novik. Napoleanic wars with dragons in combat, it's pretty great. Peter Jackson bought the rights, I keep waiting in vain for him to turn it into a TV show.

Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (RHNmi)

370 I've never been on social media. Heck, I find checking email to be a huge chore.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (mBYZv)


I don't even answer the phone. hehe

I like my isolation, especially when I'm working.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (qCMvj)

371 or another -- I'm boycotting major media companies. No, I don't have to see Captain America: Civil War. I'll read a book instad.


For another thing -- so much more rewarding.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 02:28 PM (dciA+)

But Civil War was so awesome. It was really good and thoughtful.

And in the first scene, they got Lagos down to a tee. Those particularly buildings didn't exist, put they did superb work on the details, down to the license plates.

This Nigerian was truly impressed, as were my mom and nephew.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (mBYZv)

372 "Caiaphas Cain book. Now I have an entire bookcase of 40k/Horus Heresy stuff."

Caiaphas is funny mostly. And has a different flavor than other 40K. I'm saying the Eisenhorn books kill a lot of good characters and have some plotting flaws. And the Space Marines are very dark with small flashes of light.




Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (j2xmV)

373 Also, if you're into the fantasy novels, you could do worse than pretty much anything by Brandon Sanderson.

The Way of Kings (Stormlight Archive series) is pretty great, and unlike his contemporaries who can't seem to finish writing anything (I'm looking at you Martin and Rothfuss), his "10 book opus", is, barring an actual unforseeable accident, going to get written.

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (sxq57)

374 As a frequent visitor to this site, may I do something terrible and suggest a book - actually a series - I wrote myself - namely the Chet and Bernie novels? If not, scrub this.

Posted by: Peter at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (6Nnkc)

375 360
Did you ever read the Gil Hamilton stories? lotsa fun.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 07, 2016 02:11 PM (so+oy)



Yes! I also went through the whole Man-Kzin series, but that was a tad un-even.

*
*
To be fair, those short stories and novelettes were mostly written by other authors Niven invited to "play" in his Known Space universe. Many of them are quite good, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (txdEq)

376 >>There are just too many references to dialog and situations in the Godfather to leave it off the list.

Well, at least give the poor girl a pillow and blanket so she can enjoy her nap.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (I8Bd1)

377 Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (RHNmi)

Hah, that's a perfect description!

I love the Temeraire series.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (7lVbc)

378 >>>215 TeamRawDog, any thoughts on eating coconut oil? MCFA As in, a teaspoon or two a day. I'm not sure if I'm spinning my wheels on that one.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (U+nHb)

_______

Coconut oil is useful for this because of the medium chain triglycerides (MCTs), which your liver quickly converts to ketones.

An alternative is Red Palm Oil. Or you can buy MCT oil itself - although MCT oil by itself can cause stomach cramps and have a laxative effect if you are not used to it. Coconut oil and Red Palm Oil do not have that side effect.

All of those help with the adaptation phase of switching to a high fat, low carb diet. You mitochondria can become more quickly adapted to the Krebs Cycle and become more efficient at it if you "overload" them with ketones in the beginning than if you just did low carb cold turkey.

You mitochondria see more ketones and the up regulate the receptors used in the Krebs Cycle and down regulate the ones used in the glycolytic processes.

It helps, and I have done it and still do. But it is not necessary if you dislike the taste of those oils.

There are also ketone salts you can buy that have the same effect, but I have no experience with them and cannot comment on them directly except that they *ought* to work the same way and are VERY expensive

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (10hEu)

379 As a frequent visitor to this site, may I do something terrible and suggest a book - actually a series - I wrote myself - namely the Chet and Bernie novels? If not, scrub this.
Posted by: Peter at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (6Nnkc)


you're supposed to link it!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (qCMvj)

380 >>>>
For another -- I'm boycotting major media companies. No, I don't have to see Captain America: Civil War. I'll read a book instad.


That'll be tough for me since my kids are 10 & 14. We all love movies. But I support that goal. I'm watching much less ESPN because I don't need SJW sermonizing along with WNBA highlights. Hell I don't even list to ESPN radio on SXM.

Posted by: A McNease at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (Zxs9d)

381 361 >>apart from those (the premises of which I don't like), which Gene Wolfe?


Try some of his short story collections?

Storeys from the Old Hotel
Castle of Days
the aforementioned
Island of Doctor Death and Other...

or say fuck it all and don't bother.
There's too many authors to read, anyway.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:29 PM (I8Bd1)

Castle of Days is great. Also try Soldier in (of?) the Mist. Practically every fantasy/SF story by Wolfe works at several levels.

Posted by: joncelli, Hoping for An End to It All at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (Mt8T4)

382
I'm rereading Philip Kerr's Bernie Gunther series right now. Imagine a Berliner Sam Spade operating in Nazi Germany.

The one thing that kind of irks me though is that about 3/4 of the novels take place AFTER the war, and aren't quite as interesting.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 02:34 PM (gl5Kd)

383 Hundreds of zoo visitors take shelter while Salt Lake City zoo staff search for leopard that escaped its enclosure.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 02:34 PM (iQIUe)

384 I don't even answer the phone. hehe

I like my isolation, especially when I'm working.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:31 PM (qCMvj)

I hate when my phone rings and I really hate checking voicemail. If I had my way I would be alone 95% of the time.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:34 PM (mBYZv)

385 Posted by: Peter at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (6Nnkc)

you're supposed to link it!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (qCMvj)

Yeah, I'll need to add you to my list of horde authors.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:35 PM (7lVbc)

386 Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:10 PM (Zs4uk)

Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Star Wars (Original Trilogy)
Jurassic Park (The first one. Don't bother with the sequels)
Animal House
Indiana Jones (Again, first 3)
Back to the Future

After this, I'm veering off into action and comedy movies that I don't think a female friend would appreciate as much.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 02:35 PM (KUaJL)

387 Thanks, TeamRawDog.

I actually love the taste of coconut oil. And as long as I'm not overdoing it calorie wise, based on what you said, it certainly couldn't hurt.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (U+nHb)

388 chique d'afrique, former Republican: "I've never been on social media. Heck, I find checking email to be a huge chore."

Amazing isn't it? Spam/Ham filters have evolved enough now to keep 99.9% of the boxes clutter free... and it's still a bit of a chore to process the Inbox.

I maintain this love/hate relationship with infotech but hate is beginning to take the lead. My internal curmudgeon is dying to keep it off my lawn.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (1CroS)

389 Jenm Psaki on Obama campaigning for The Butcher of Benghazi:

"He has indicated he wants to spend a lot of time on the campaign trail, so when it's time to do that, we'll go out guns a blazing." - White House communications director Jennifer Psaki

Psaki psaid what? WITH GUNS A-BLAZING???

So, Sarah Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords getting shot because reasons, but Psaki can pspread THIS crap without repercussions?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (s/EUv)

390 If you are writing a book, join the goodreads group for moral support! Lots of horde writers there.

Um, what is this goodreads group and how do I find said thing?

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (sxq57)

391 After having exhausted all the Agatha Christie novels, I think, I started trying other queens of crime. Currently I'm slowly going through May 3rd Dorothy Sayers novel. I really enjoy her writing, but it's so hard to find time to actually read.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (mBYZv)

392 >> If I had my way I would be alone 95% of the time


I often think that.

Then I realize 5% of my 'Me' time is just too much to sacrifice.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:37 PM (I8Bd1)

393 Lots of good movie suggestions.

All copied and pasted to a list for her.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:37 PM (Zs4uk)

394 May 3rd = my third

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:37 PM (mBYZv)

395 I hate when my phone rings and I really hate checking voicemail. If I had my way I would be alone 95% of the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:34 PM (mBYZv)


me too



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:37 PM (qCMvj)

396 I watched The Quiet Man the other day with John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara. It was really good.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (mBYZv)

397 BBC accused of 'PC nonsense' after saying football fans dressed as knights could be offensive to Muslims and the St George's cross is 'associated with far-right nationalism'

http://goo.gl/fWun02

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They use to have St George Day's parades but they cut back on those too so as to not offend the perpetually offended.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (iQIUe)

398 Oh and I'm not surprised at all Instagram is biting it. They totally ticked off all their users when they tried to add dumb Facebook-style algorithms to it, which screwed up the timeline of how people saw posts. So people are fleeing. A shame, it was the most zen and friendliest of the social media sites. A really good place to follow artists and foodies.

Rule #1 if social media: don't f*** it up! Well good job Instagram, ya kinda did.

Oh and I have to start learning Snapchat for work so I can see what the kids these days are into. Kill me now.

Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (RHNmi)

399 396 I watched The Quiet Man the other day with John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara. It was really good.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (mBYZv)

================

One of John Ford's best. Right up there with The Searchers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (5sBuX)

400 Movie suggestions:

Ghostbusters (1984)



Groundhog Day (1993?)



Die Hard (198



Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)



White Heat (1949)



The Apartment (1960)

City Slickers (1991)

With the exception of the last 2, all of these get quoted on a regular basis in American society, especially around here. So I suggest that they are essential viewing. (Plus they're darn near perfect movies anyway.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (txdEq)

401 The Big Lebowski should be on her list.

Unless she has no sense of humor.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (I8Bd1)

402 "He has indicated he wants to spend a lot of time on the campaign trail, so when it's time to do that, we'll go out guns a blazing." - White House communications director Jennifer Psaki

Psaki psaid what? WITH GUNS A-BLAZING???

So, Sarah Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords getting shot because reasons, but Psaki can pspread THIS crap without repercussions?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (s/EUv)

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Palin said "target" incumbents.

And paid for it with about three months of hellish nonsense.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (8XRCm)

403 I actually love the taste of coconut oil. And as long as I'm not overdoing it calorie wise, based on what you said, it certainly couldn't hurt.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (U+nHb)


I use it in stir-frys.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (qCMvj)

404 Oh my god...

She has never seen The Wizard of Oz.

I'm calling Child Services to have her parents arrested.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (Zs4uk)

405 Nevermind, found it

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (sxq57)

406 I often think that.

Then I realize 5% of my 'Me' time is just too much to sacrifice.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:37 PM (I8Bd1)

LOL. I would have said 100% but I didn't want to seem.weird. I'm glad there are other like-minded folks here because sometimes I think my family thinks I'm too extreme.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (mBYZv)

407 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (txdEq)


Die Hard. Best christmas movie ever.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (KUaJL)

408 I use it in stir-frys.

popcorn! add a touch of sugar to the oil for some fantastic popcorn.

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (sxq57)

409 >>She has never seen The Wizard of Oz.


I hate fucking flying monkeys.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (I8Bd1)

410 Die Hard. Best christmas movie ever.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (KUaJL)

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Yippie Kiyay.... futher mucker.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (8XRCm)

411 GMan, here's the goodreads group

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde

You have to be signed into goodreads (use an email / alias instead of fb if you want to be pseudonymous)

Answer the question when you click join the group

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (7lVbc)

412 Then stop doing it Garrett

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (RbRGC)

413 As a frequent visitor to this site, may I do
something terrible and suggest a book - actually a series - I wrote
myself - namely the Chet and Bernie novels? If not, scrub this.

Posted by: Peter at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (6Nnkc)

Suggest away... What are the books about?

Posted by: redbanzai at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (3JA/M)

414 To be fair, those short stories and novelettes were mostly written by other authors Niven invited to "play" in his Known Space universe. Many of them are quite good, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:33 PM (txdEq)


Oh yeah. Most of them are quite good, and flow with the "Known Universe". Just the quality isn't as consistent.

Caiaphas is funny mostly. And has a different flavor than other 40K. I'm saying the Eisenhorn books kill a lot of good characters and have some plotting flaws. And the Space Marines are very dark with small flashes of light.
Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 02:32 PM (j2xmV)


Well its supposed to be a Galaxy devoid of hope.

Posted by: Iblis at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (9221z)

415 404 Oh my god...

She has never seen The Wizard of Oz.

I'm calling Child Services to have her parents arrested.
Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (Zs4uk)


=================

That's kinda crazy.

Have her watch the original King Kong as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (5sBuX)

416 I hate fucking flying monkeys.
Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (I8Bd1)

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Wow..... how do you hang on???

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (8XRCm)

417 Answer the question when you click join the group

Done, thanks (used my alias here as my alias there).

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:41 PM (sxq57)

418 Ha, I thought it said boobs are better than tweets and likes.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 07, 2016 02:43 PM (lsQcT)

419 391
After having exhausted all the Agatha Christie novels, I think, I
started trying other queens of crime. Currently I'm slowly going through
May 3rd Dorothy Sayers novel. I really enjoy her writing, but it's so
hard to find time to actually read.

*
*
I recommend Ellery Queen, the "logical successor to Sherlock Holmes." The early (1930s) novels are detailed and dazzling puzzles; the 1940s and 1950s saw Ellery become more human. ("Ellery Queen" is the detective character; the books are signed as by "Ellery Queen," but they're not written in first person.)

You might also want to try John Dickson Carr, the locked room/impossible crime specialist; and for character and flavor, Josephine Tey.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 02:43 PM (txdEq)

420 I'm reading the Game Of Thrones series. There are five books total. You can get all five of them on Amazon for under $30.00.

Posted by: Mike at June 07, 2016 02:45 PM (ISxUB)

421 In observance of this most holy month of Ramalamadingdong, I eat no solid food after sundown, whereupon I commence to consume only alcohol...

Posted by: Zettai "Of Arapia" Ryoiki at June 07, 2016 02:45 PM (kP16F)

422 Well boobs are better, unless they're political boobs...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:45 PM (RbRGC)

423 You have to laugh: "Critical index finds smelt nearly extinct in Sacramento Delta"

http://tinyurl.com/hkkknhe


Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (oKE6c)

424 Book recommendations...

The Hyperion series from Dan Simmons is a great read, at least in my opinion. Four books long so you'll be at it for a while.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (kUmUV)

425 On IF for about a year. Lost 35kg (75 lbs). Can't recommend it enough. Definitely pairs well with lifting heavy shit.

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (FkMh1)

426 The Day of the Jackal

Great movie. Shit remake.

Posted by: jwest at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (Zs4uk)

427
Pfft.. I've quit this blog at least a hundred times.

Posted by: The Imortal Wu Chu at June 07, 2016 02:47 PM (ugz3A)

428 I could kick myself. I was in a bookstore on Sunday & saw a cheap paperback of horror short stories, including some by Stephen King. I leafed through it but was feeling incredibly cheap & didn't want to spend a buck. Turns out it contains one of the few King short stories that has never been collected, as well as an early George R.R. Martin story.

Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 02:47 PM (7HtZB)

429 This is has been a really great thread. We're getting exercise/weight loss advice and some great book suggestions. After I get home from work I'll be going through this thread and adding a lot to my "To Read" list on Goodreads.

Btw, would you place Goodreads in the same category as Facebook or Twitter? I think it is social media, but I don't think it's really the same.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 02:47 PM (BDZWU)

430 Delta smelt, isn't that just a fancy name for bait?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (RbRGC)

431 420 I'm reading the Game Of Thrones series. There are five books total.

--

Yeah, about that ...

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (7lVbc)

432 ...oh and don't believe any of the mumbo jumbo about metabolism or whatever. There's no magic, it's just a great way to control caloric intake. Ultimately weight is one thing, and one thing only: Calories in, calories out.

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (FkMh1)

433 LOL. I would have said 100% but I didn't want to seem.weird. I'm glad there are other like-minded folks here because sometimes I think my family thinks I'm too extreme.
Posted by: chique d'afrique, former Republican at June 07, 2016 02:40 PM (mBYZv)


heh, I could say that too, but my husband has to count for a small percentage. Luckily for me, he's the same. I am off writing or whatever, and he's off doing whatever he does. Then we go out and have a nice dinner or go for a walk, or share a bottle of wine.

When we go out to social events, we both just want to show up, do our thing, then get back to our sanctuary.

And yet we are considered "outgoing" people. Ha!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (qCMvj)

434 My friends, we have nothing to fear with Barack Obama Hillary Clinton in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (12kBq)

435 I actually love the taste of coconut oil. And as long as I'm not overdoing it calorie wise, based on what you said, it certainly couldn't hurt.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 02:36 PM (U+nHb)
I use it in stir-frys.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:39 PM (qCMvj)


It is brilliant in baked goods, I don't use any other oils anymore. Heat it up a little bit and stir it into the batter.

Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (RHNmi)

436 Object-Oriented Programming in ColdFusion
...by Matt Gifford
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 07, 2016 01:57 PM (UypUQ)

ColdFusion is still around?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 01:59 PM (qCMvj)

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*sigh* Sad how many people have said that to me recently. (ColdFusion is the only thing I'm good at.)

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (UypUQ)

437 Galaxy devoid of hope? Like Ohio?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (jeVt0)

438 That jackass, Hillary tweets for ramadan: As we begin Ramadan, I wish all Muslims a blessed time of reflection, family, and good health. Ramadan Mubarak.

What a pandering whore. "blessed time" indeed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (U+nHb)

439 I highly recommend Go Dog Go

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (12kBq)

440 BBC accused of 'PC nonsense' after saying football fans dressed as knights could be offensive to Muslims and the St George's cross is 'associated with far-right nationalism'

http://goo.gl/fWun02

=============
They use to have St George Day's parades but they cut back on those too so as to not offend the perpetually offended.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 02:38 PM (iQIUe)

BBC has been off the rails on the Brexit deal. The "In" campaign trying to subvert the process for this referendum has been insidious. I know I've failed to generate interest in this, but Brexit (in my hyperbolic mind) seems to me to be Magna Carta - The Sequel.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (4ng05)

441 Calories in, calories out.
Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (FkMh1)

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Nope.

2500 calories a day from cake and doughnuts.

2500 calories a day from breads, fruits, meat and vegetables.


They are NOT the same.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (8XRCm)

442 Btw, would you place Goodreads in the same category as Facebook or Twitter? I think it is social media, but I don't think it's really the same.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 02:47 PM (BDZWU)

A lot of people are on it for socializing and it definitely leans left. But it's very useful for readers and for writers it's not good to ignore.
It's owned by Amazon.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 02:50 PM (7lVbc)

443 And in the first scene, they got Lagos down to a tee. Those particularly buildings didn't exist, put they did superb work on the details, down to the license plates.

Atlanta stood in for...well most of the locations in the film actually. In fact that was the Atlanta Civic Center getting shot up in the opening, and the market was an area near Phillips Arena. The airport was in Germany, though, shutting down ATL for that scene would have wreaked havoc on air travel...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 07, 2016 02:50 PM (9krrF)

444 Two movies I endorse:

The Song of Bernadette
Yankee Doodle Dandy

But then I'm Catholic and I love America.

Posted by: mrp at June 07, 2016 02:50 PM (JBggj)

445 The "Debbie does" series are great books...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 07, 2016 02:50 PM (jsWA8)

446 420 I'm reading the Game Of Thrones series. There are five books total. You can get all five of them on Amazon for under $30.00.
Posted by: Mike at June 07, 2016 02:45 PM (ISxUB)

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Just watch the show.

It's much better paced, especially after book 3. Book 4 was a 200 page book squeezed into 900.

GRRM started suffering from JK Rowling-itis in that his editors became unwilling to say "no" to him and cut stuff out or force him to cut stuff down.

He's obsessed much more with world building than story telling, and it gets really old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:50 PM (5sBuX)

447 The Hyperion series from Dan Simmons is a great read, at least in my opinion. Four books long so you'll be at it for a while.

Or four long books...

They're good though. Some interesting themes...

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (sxq57)

448 fixerupper, with all due respect you have no clue what you're talking about. In strict terms of losing weight, if you prefer cake, go for it. You will lose weight if you eat 1 calorie less than your TDEE.

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (FkMh1)

449 Don't use social media. Watch movies, tiny bit of television. Get my news from the net. Read LOTS of books. Saying that, often think technolgy is running my life. Is there anyone here that is not very plugged in to social media and STILL feels like it's too much? Or am I just a dinosaur Luddite that refuses to get on with this brave new world?

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (sdxPm)

450 430 Delta smelt, isn't that just a fancy name for bait?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (RbRGC)



Yep. Although they prefer to be called "Anchovy-Americans." And apparently they're a bedrock Democrat constituency.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (oKE6c)

451 428 I could kick myself. I was in a bookstore on Sunday & saw a cheap paperback of horror short stories, including some by Stephen King. I leafed through it but was feeling incredibly cheap & didn't want to spend a buck. Turns out it contains one of the few King short stories that has never been collected, as well as an early George R.R. Martin story.
Posted by: josephistan at June 07, 2016 02:47 PM (7HtZB)
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's some links to some early George R.R. Martin sci-fi stories. They're all part of what is called The Thousand Worlds. I found out about them because some guy on Youtube started a Thousand Worlds book club so as to unlock some secrets in his ASOIAF series.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xqpQKU0rXmwknmht-vVyU3YZWb7oweGvMeSa5uPzrZA/edit?pli=1

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R25hpMPhtnTJT1JowXzPWCA3fyd0-P2Y6agw76Joowc/edit?pli=1

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 07, 2016 02:52 PM (BDZWU)

452 I went on an intermittent fast program a couple of years ago and went from 210 to 165 in three months. I would skip breakfast and lunch and then eat a 1200 calorie dinner. I was also running 5 miles three times a week. I felt and looked great. I restarted the program again last week.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 07, 2016 02:52 PM (KT893)

453 You have to laugh: "Critical index finds smelt nearly extinct in Sacramento Delta"

http://tinyurl.com/hkkknhe




Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (oKE6c)


This is going to drive the price of canned delta smelt through the roof.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (i2t8l)

454 Does anybody here have experience with having a Baker's cyst? For the past 2 weeks I have had pain behind my left knee. At first I thought it was because I had pulled a muscle on the treadmill, and took it easy for a few days, but it got worse, not better. I'm hobbling around, popping a lot of Motrin, putting ice on it and hoping it will subside. But I haven't been able to do my usual walking and bike riding and I have to do some just to maintain weight. I've put on 3 pounds sitting around with an ice pack behind my knee.

(My fault for not taking out better insurance. I keep forgetting I'm not 25 anymore. Bare bones insurance doesn't cut it in your 50's.)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (u0lmX)

455 *sigh* Sad how many people have said that to me recently. (ColdFusion is the only thing I'm good at.)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 07, 2016 02:48 PM (UypUQ)



sorry

I took a course for it a long time ago, but thought it died out. I thought it was easily hackable now. And didn't have the flexibility, but if they are still around, I'm sure they got around all of that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (qCMvj)

456 I think part of the key is not going too fast. i lost an average of .6 kg a week.

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (FkMh1)

457 441 Nope.

2500 calories a day from cake and doughnuts.

2500 calories a day from breads, fruits, meat and vegetables.


They are NOT the same.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (8XRCm)

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You're right, to an extent. If you're looking at losing weight and aim for 1,500 calories total while burning 2,000-2,500, there's not a huge difference in where you get your calories from because your body will run through everything you take in and move to your fat stores.

Maintaining or gaining weight? It does make a difference where those calories come from because your body will take longer to break down one type over another meaning that you could end up with some weird results or gaining the wrong type of weight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (5sBuX)

458 fixerupper, with all due respect you have no clue what you're talking about. In strict terms of losing weight, if you prefer cake, go for it. You will lose weight if you eat 1 calorie less than your TDEE.
Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (FkMh1)

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Really??? With all that insulin bouncing around your body from the complex carbohydrates???

As a former body builder.... I ve got a pretty good handle on macro requirements.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (8XRCm)

459 447 The Hyperion series from Dan Simmons is a great read, at least in my opinion. Four books long so you'll be at it for a while.
Or four long books...
They're good though. Some interesting themes...
Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (sxq57)

Simmons does some great work... "Ilium and Olympos" are great. "The Terror" is one of my all time favorite novels. I reread it every couple of years.

Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2016 02:54 PM (sdxPm)

460 Took my kid to a fair where they had a bus set up for gaming, screen couch etc

He wanted to look so took him up. He sat for a second then was like whatever let's go.

That won't last but it's nice right now.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 02:54 PM (jeVt0)

461 441
There's
an issue of volume. Healthier foods usually have a greater volume (and
more water) so they make you feel fuller and more satisfied. Obviously
they also have more vitamins and so forth which factors into overall
health, life expectancy, etc. But as it relates to weight loss a calorie is a calorie. All weight loss requires is a caloric deficit.

Posted by: Naes at June 07, 2016 02:55 PM (Ypc8j)

462 Please buy the Moron books that Voter Mom links to.

Also please leave feedback on Amazon, each review affects the algorithms about how often Amazon tries to offer our stories to other customers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:55 PM (RbRGC)

463 459 447 The Hyperion series from Dan Simmons is a great read, at least in my opinion. Four books long so you'll be at it for a while.
Or four long books...
They're good though. Some interesting themes...
Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (sxq57)

Simmons does some great work... "Ilium and Olympos" are great. "The Terror" is one of my all time favorite novels. I reread it every couple of years.
Posted by: kraken at June 07, 2016 02:54 PM (sdxPm)

Simmons can be great but he has real troubles with ending things. He set up so many threads in Illium that Olympos couldn't really deliver on it all. But the way he realized that universe was so compelling that I only minded a little.

Posted by: joncelli, Hoping for An End to It All at June 07, 2016 02:56 PM (Mt8T4)

464 But as it relates to weight loss a calorie is a calorie. All weight loss requires is a caloric deficit.

----

Yes... but not all calories are equal.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:56 PM (8XRCm)

465 Nope.

2500 calories a day from cake and doughnuts.

2500 calories a day from breads, fruits, meat and vegetables.


They are NOT the same.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 07, 2016 02:49 PM (8XRCm)


nutrient-wise, no
calorie-wise, yes
but then there's food-combining properties
so...

just eat healthy, keep the calories manageable, and move around

if you're going to "diet" lose only a pound or two a week (unless you're really overweight, you'll lose more at first just by cutting down on the calories alone)

you don't even have to work out if you don't want to

look at every diet, add up the calories, they will be on par

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:56 PM (qCMvj)

466 453 You have to laugh: "Critical index finds smelt nearly extinct in Sacramento Delta"
http://tinyurl.com/hkkknhe
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2016 02:46 PM (oKE6c)
This is going to drive the price of canned delta smelt through the roof.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 07, 2016 02:53 PM (i2t8l)



Bait shops hardest hit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 07, 2016 02:56 PM (oKE6c)

467 Creepy new thread up

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 02:57 PM (RbRGC)

468 SF classics? 50's - 60's, not sure how your tastes run but I liked all these:
Voyage of the Space Beagle - AE van Vogt
Mission of Gravity - Hal Clement
Med Ship - Murray Leinster
All Flesh is Grass - Clifford Simak

Posted by: RG at June 07, 2016 02:57 PM (xlDEp)

469 I'm positive GRRM will die before he finishes his series. I wonder if there's a deadpool for authors?

Oh and if anyone wanted an update, escaped leopard at SLC zoo was found sleeping on a beam near its enclosure and recaptured just fine.

Posted by: LizLem at June 07, 2016 02:57 PM (RHNmi)

470 The Hyperion series from Dan Simmons is a great read, at least in my opinion. Four books long so you'll be at it for a while.
Or four long books...
They're good though. Some interesting themes...
Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 02:51 PM (sxq57)


loved these too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 07, 2016 02:58 PM (qCMvj)

471 Hundreds of zoo visitors take shelter while Salt Lake City zoo staff search for leopard that escaped its enclosure.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 02:34 PM (iQIUe)


I'm sure it will be spotted eventually.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 07, 2016 02:58 PM (GSdpU)

472 464
Yes... but not all calories are equal.

No, not all grams are equal.
A gram of fat is 9 calories
A gram of protein is 4 calories
A gram of carbs is 4 calories as well

Posted by: Naes at June 07, 2016 02:58 PM (Ypc8j)

473 Books:

Nobody reads any of my favorite books. I read whatever. Most current sci Fi and fantasy suck ass.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 02:59 PM (jeVt0)

474 I know that this is not original but when I decided to lose weight and get fit, I looked at all of the popular diets my wife had started over the last year and it struck me that they all had the same things in common:

Cut out simple carbs, eliminate sugar, eat fresh foods.

By and large, that's what I try to do daily, but when I want to go out to eat - normally once a week - I don't pay any attention to what I eat (except I don't eat sweets).

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 07, 2016 02:59 PM (4ng05)

475 But as it relates to weight loss a calorie is a calorie.

Untrue. The body metabolizes fats, carbohydrates, and protein at different rates, dependent of course upon your body chemistry.
Keeping caloric intake even, consume meat and vegetables for a week, then spend a week eating twinkies. You will be disabused of the notion that "all calories are equal".

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 03:00 PM (2XJxO)

476 "If doing X causes a migraine, it's your body's way of telling you DO NOT DO X!! "



Just tell me how to solve for 'X'.

Posted by: The Imortal Wu Chu at June 07, 2016 03:00 PM (ugz3A)

477 "The Terror" is one of my all time favorite novels. I reread it every couple of years.

I haven't read that one.

I'll have to grab it.

Posted by: GMan at June 07, 2016 03:01 PM (sxq57)

478 "Nobody reads any of my favorite books. I read whatever. Most current sci Fi and fantasy suck ass. "



I would like to gift you a copy of my book. What are you looking for?

Posted by: The Imortal Wu Chu at June 07, 2016 03:05 PM (ugz3A)

479 Ace, if you're reading this, all I can say is: DWTFYWTD.

But I recommend not listening to clowns who talk about food combinations, non-equal calories, former body builders or whatever.

Just calculate your TDEE (the calories your body uses in one day - you can do so with online calculators), and eat a reasonable amount less. Say, 200-300 calories.

If you prefer healthy foods, go for it. You want to eat Twizzlers and pizza, do that. Just eat less than your TDEE and you will lose weight.

No more entries for me on the subject. Massive lurker who's only posted a couple of times, wanted to offer my take on IF. Excellent tool for eating less than your TDEE!

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 03:06 PM (FkMh1)

480 I've read Ringworld so many times I kinda got burned out on it.

The last time I read it I realized the Louis Wu character was disposable. Every line of dialogue that was his I skipped over, and actually liked the story more that way.

Pretty much everything he says is forgettable.

Posted by: eleven at June 07, 2016 03:13 PM (qUNWi)

481 I don't want your book sorry.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 07, 2016 03:13 PM (jeVt0)

482 Black at June 07, 2016 03:06 PM

Sorry you got your panties in a wad JB, and I guess I will miss out on your rebuttal, but the simple arithmetic of "calories in, calories burned" totally discounts the sophisticated chemistry of metabolic activity. It also ignores the fascinating work now being done regarding the effect of diet on gut microbiota. The constituent nutritional content of your diet, particularly in the presence of exercise has a significant impact on weight loss or .maintenance, especially the nature of tissue metabolized or maintained.

Yeah, I'm a meathead lifter, but with a degree in physiology, and years as an adjunct college strength coach.

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 03:14 PM (2XJxO)

483 I'm another recent nsng convert. haven't tried intermittent fasting aside from the monthly one for church, but the principle makes a lot of sense.

A decent podcast for NSNG is Vinnie Tortorich's Celebrity Trainer. A little bit healthy advice, a little bit Adam Carrolla morning zoo radio.

Posted by: sulla at June 07, 2016 03:22 PM (0GucZ)

484 "calories in, calories burned"

It's "calories in, calories out," or CICO.

Degree, lol. Meathead, maybe.

Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 03:25 PM (FkMh1)

485 469
I'm positive GRRM will die before he finishes his series. I wonder if there's a deadpool for authors?

*
*
Back in the Eighties he published Fevre Dream, a wonderful combination of Mark Twain-on-the-Mississippi-period riverboat adventure and vampire thriller. NO, the vampires are not just misunderstood, or sparkly, or even nice. A very good vampire story all around.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 07, 2016 03:27 PM (txdEq)

486 >>>479 Ace, if you're reading this, all I can say is: DWTFYWTD.

But I recommend not listening to clowns who talk about food combinations, non-equal calories, former body builders or whatever.

Just calculate your TDEE (the calories your body uses in one day - you can do so with online calculators), and eat a reasonable amount less. Say, 200-300 calories.

If you prefer healthy foods, go for it. You want to eat Twizzlers and pizza, do that. Just eat less than your TDEE and you will lose weight.

No more entries for me on the subject. Massive lurker who's only posted a couple of times, wanted to offer my take on IF. Excellent tool for eating less than your TDEE!
Posted by: Jak Black at June 07, 2016 03:06 PM (FkMh1)

__________


Yes, mathematically a calorie is a calorie. Energy is energy. and Joule is a Joule.

However the form of those calories impacts an entire system of hormones in the body in very different ways. Leptin, ghrelin, insulin, testosterone ect.

Hormones matter for body composition. Muscle tissue and and adipose tissue (bodyfat). Calories matter for abstract energy calculations and heat transfer equations

An example - You up someone testosterone levels from a very healthy baseline of say 700 ng/dL to 5000 5g/dL and you could have them eat exactly the same and not lift a single weight and they will lose bodyfat and gain lean muscle mass. in fact they will do it faster than the 700 ng/dL guy who does eat more protein and lifts weights.

Again, hormones matter for body composition. Muscle tissue and adipose tissue. Calories matter for abstract energy calculations and heat transfer equations

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 03:33 PM (10hEu)

487 It's "calories in, calories out," or CICO.



Degree, lol. Meathead, maybe.

It may be CICO for the dimwitted, but skippy, calories are burned, not outed. Buying into simplistic plus and minus is ok if that is easy for you to understand. I shouldn't have troubled you--biochemistry and human physiology are not for the simple minded.

I have a feeling I have finally discovered the target audience for "Feel the Burn!" and Weight Watchers.

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 03:38 PM (2XJxO)

488 TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 03:33 PM

Careful RawDog, he'll stamp his foot at you! You can't teach the simple; for some people believing simple arithmetic explains the human body makes them feel snug and safe. Too much more and he will be claiming a micro-aggression.

Posted by: Alamo at June 07, 2016 03:42 PM (2XJxO)

489 I just finished listening to the audiobook of Ashlee Vance's biography of Elon Musk. I recommend it very highly. I think it is better than Isaacson's book on Jobs. If you've ever had to stretch to meet a deadline--whether engineering, finance, or whatever--you will get some vicarious thrills listening to the adventures at SpaceX and Tesla. I learned a lot about both companies and their products.

Posted by: Dan K at June 07, 2016 03:48 PM (c6JV+)

490 I remember reading some economic pooh-bah paper on tech and productivity. You could see a nice spike in productivity due to the PC revolution. As businesses got computerized, productivity increased nicely in proportion.

The "smart" phone revolution, your iShit and similar. Not so much. No increase in productivity evident. Wait, there's all this wonderful "app" shit that does shit.

Well, the time wasting features of the iCrap cancel out any time saving features, apparently.

I notice this everywhere I go now. The young 'uns, all of them, but an increasing number of my age cohort and even older. I see a sea of idiots buried in their damn phones, hunched over, swiping and thumbing. They can't even talk or look up apparently for more than 5 seconds, without going back to the damn phone screen.

It's a wonder productivity hasn't actually declined, and it may do it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 07, 2016 03:54 PM (DW+jj)

491 The Laws of Thermodynamics hold. They Hold. Always and everywhere. Every bit of energy you expend comes from somewhere.

However, well consider trying to run you car on kerosene. Energy in is energy out, but the damn car isn't going to run too well on the kerosene. In fact, it's going to be limping and skipping and making a mess. Your mileage would be awful, since it was so damn inefficient. Yet energy in = energy out, forever and always.

It's the same with your body. Fast carbs in the processed shit Big Food has moved to for a host of a reasons is just basically something the human body can't handle. We didn't evolve to be able to handle that much carbs being converted to glucose so damn fast and provoking an over-insulin response.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 07, 2016 03:59 PM (DW+jj)

492 I do IF sometimes - being on paleo the rest of the time means that I don't feel hunger that often, so it's easy to skip a meal or two.

Just picked up David Ludwig MD's "Always Hungry? Conquer Cravings, Retrain Your Fat Cells Lose Weight Permanently." Don't know if it was recommended here, but looks promising.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at June 07, 2016 04:01 PM (knRe2)

493 Read the whole series.

Ringworld Engineers is the next one.

There's some others about the "Protectors"

And there's some about the Puppeteers that provides some extra info.

Another set would be The Mote in God's Eye and The Gripping Hand sequel with Jerry Pournelle.

Interesting and full of action and science.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at June 07, 2016 04:07 PM (ECJ+C)

494 Book recommendation:

Earthquake Weather, by Tim Powers.

Published in '97, set during the CA Northridge earthquake.

A guy and a girl escape from "temporary" holds in a mental hospital during the quake and join another group to try to resurrect the dead fisher king of the west, whom one of the girl's multiple personalities killed, by summoning Dionysus. The god actually makes an appearance at the end.

I don't like Mr. Powers's stuff but this is great.

He got a hold of two characters, the guy and the girl, who make the book. Some details on wine making and Shakespeare's plays come up a lot in the book.

It's a sequel to some book I flipped through, not worth reading.

I've read Ringworld, R. Engineers and most of Niven (and Niven and Pournelle, even better), Most of Heinlein, Lord of the Rings; after that a lot of Kipling. I really would put at least this one book of his up in that list.


Posted by: Something Guy at June 07, 2016 04:11 PM (LekBj)

495 Sry for delay.I mentioned that a Dyson Sphere has been proven impossible. There can be no gravity inside a sphere.

Sven you said "Earths Core." Earth is a solid. We stand on the outside of the sphere. On the inside of a hollow sphere there can be no gravity from the object itself.

Ace you said something about adding rings each smaller. Unless each additional ring spins independently it would have less and less artificial gravity force. If spinning together, the smaller rings, spinning at the samespeed would have a smaller cetripidal force.

All of this is irrelevant to our level of current tech. It's physics.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 04:23 PM (qUtZq)

496 #60 Joan of Arc was Twain's favorite of all of his works.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at June 07, 2016 04:24 PM (knRe2)

497 Book rec's:

Privateer Tales series by Jamie McFarlane. Sci-fi, starts with a few kids on a mining colony being attacked by pirates. Popcorn books- short, cheap, and always leave you wanting the next one right f!@#%'n now.

The Malcontents, two books so far, by Larry Correia. If you liked WH 40k, but want something in the same line, not as grimdark, try this. Think steampunk dirty dozen (the first one).

Ark Royal series by Christopher Nuttal. Mil Sci-fi (space navy). Humanity in space is attacked, and losing badly... Except for one old, out of date carrier with more armor than most dwarf planets, apparently. Pretty good stories, with flaws, but still pretty good.

Destroyermen, by Taylor Anderson. WWII era four stacker gets drawn into an alternate earth, where they... fight a sort of fantasy WWII, with monkey-cat people allies against velociraptors. Better story than it sounds. If you like alt-history, read this.

Brings the Lightning, by Peter Grant. If you liked Louis L'amour, and wonderd why the aitch ee double hockey sticks nobody picked up the standard after he died, read this one. Most like classic L'amour I've read.

Tom, by Dave Freer. Fantasy, quick read- a wizard is in dire need of a servant, so he transforms a cat into a boy to do his dishes. Stay away if you are allergic to puns. He also writes some pretty good steampunk (Cuttlefish), sci-fi (Stardogs), and short noir-ish fnatasy (Bolg stories).

Upthread are a bunch of other books I'd have recommended, but somebodies got to 'em first.

Posted by: unwenchable at June 07, 2016 04:40 PM (Z9dQb)

498 Zombie, J.G. Ballard's short story "The Day of Forever" is set on a tidally-locked future earth.

"At Columbine Sept Heures it was always dusk."

Posted by: TChad at June 07, 2016 04:49 PM (uXri3)

499 Never did care much for the Ringworld series. Have been enjoying John Conroe's Demon Accord series (10 books) and Taylor Anderson's Destroyermen series (10th book out soon) Very enjoyable books. Since the last DA book came out, I reread the entire series again, for the third time. It is just that good. Gama Ray Martinez has a new book in the Pharm War series next month, the third, I think that I am waiting impatiently for.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Tim Pruett at June 07, 2016 05:34 PM (dpJ2a)

500 Ace ...

... read "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young".

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 07:46 PM (fiGNd)

501 IF works great, but you get ear infections.

Posted by: Nip Sip at June 07, 2016 07:47 PM (jJRIy)

502 Evening, 'rons!

Wow, this is a long comment thread. I read the first book in Ringworld, but have been uninspired to continue. Maybe sometime in the future. My problem is that I have about a thousand other books to read.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 07:49 PM (+eR2D)

503
Let's discuss Dana Delaney's naked bits.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 07:49 PM (XgPhs)

504 Ace ...

... "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by Shirer is also a must read. I'll loan you mine if you like.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 07:49 PM (fiGNd)

505 If you are in an epic fantasy mood and want something much more optimistic, go for Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series.

Jim Butcher books are always good for light, fun reading.

I am sure you already know of the "Monster Hunter" series by Corriea, but I also liked his "Dead Six" collaboration.

Steven Brust and Glen Cook are good examples of more realistic, gritty writers before that meant character torture ala GRR Martin.

I am also trying to work my way through Robert Conquest's "The Great Terror" on the rise, grimy middle, and fall of the Soviets.

Another one I really liked but have not finished yet is "A War like no other" by Victor Davis Hanson on the Pelopinisian War(s).

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 07:53 PM (3ZoRf)

506 Blue-on-blue laugh of the day.


http://tinyurl.com/j9vla8y

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 07, 2016 07:53 PM (Nwg0u)

507 "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by Shirer ...
Posted by: ScoggDog


That guy's the wurst.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2016 07:53 PM (p2X2f)

508
I have never heard of Ringworld before, so upon looking it up I see that it he then wrote 4 prequels and 4 sequels. Would it pay to start in chronological order or is Ringworld his hit and the rest just money skimmers?

Posted by: Hillary the Corrupt at June 07, 2016 07:53 PM (ODxAs)

509
off corrupt sock.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 07, 2016 07:54 PM (ODxAs)

510 Different diets work for different genetics.
Using Medifast (5 and 1 plan) I dropped 20 pounds in January and 10 in February. Basically low carb and more frequent small meals.

Posted by: wooga at June 07, 2016 07:54 PM (0+LRx)

511 ... read "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young".

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 07:46 PM (fiGNd)


Sadly, SGM Plumley is being posthumously investigated for stolen valor.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 07, 2016 07:55 PM (GUBah)

512 Why does Ace want to starve us??

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 07:56 PM (iQIUe)

513 IF burns the calories.

Posted by: Intermittent Fapper at June 07, 2016 07:56 PM (sattt)

514 >>If you are in an epic fantasy mood and want something much more optimistic, go for Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series.


Dude. This is Ace.

He can barely finish reading a short story with a 3 week head start.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 07:56 PM (I8Bd1)

515 Tuesday Supplemental Book thread, I like it.

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2016 07:56 PM (3wHFl)

516 H the corrupt, read Ringworld, it's one of the best SF novels ever. I'm re-reading Project Pope by Simak, a novel every bit as good if not better

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at June 07, 2016 07:57 PM (CJRaf)

517 "I Am Legend" is a short book. I finished in one sitting, it was so good. Luckily this was long before Will Smith shat all over it.

Posted by: wooga at June 07, 2016 07:58 PM (0+LRx)

518 I think Ace would like 'The Lies of Locke Lamore'.

Or, at least some of it. The first 2/3 or so.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 07:58 PM (I8Bd1)

519 "Sadly, SGM Plumley is being posthumously investigated for stolen valor"

Well ... I guess he won't be able to tell the lawyers to Prepare to Defend Themselves.

He went VA Admin after his lick in Nam. Might be the hook.

I wonder if Hillary will get the same treatment ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 07:59 PM (fiGNd)

520 I finished one Sunday and haven't figured out what to read next.

Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2016 07:59 PM (3wHFl)

521 Ace,

I love Dr. Fung! I'm in the middle of The Obesity Code right now and his explanations of the insulin hypothesis, as well as how metabolism actually works versus how we've been loosely taught it works are wonderful!

I am fully keto and lost 60 lb in the past year. I've got 20 more to go until I'm happy. I have managed to lose six dress sizes and all my bloodwork has come back as optimal. So this is just my way of life now. I IF, but it's mostly unintentional because I'm just not super hungry on keto. I stop eating around 6 every night and am not hungry again until around noon the next day. I'm acquainted with quite a few people that are using keto and IF together to help with insulin resistance and type II diabetes.

Anyway, I'll have to put Fat Chance on my to read list. Thanks!

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at June 07, 2016 07:59 PM (KkVB6)

522 121 @72.

Dyson Sphere has been proven impossible. There can be no gravity inside a sphere.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 01:43 PM (+B2CV)

++++

Do you have a link for the proof?

As far as gravity, other forces may substitute. If the sphere is spinning, there would be centrifugal force. Hell, by the time we are capable of building something big enough to have a sun inside, artificial gravity may be an option.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 08:00 PM (R+30W)

523 Ace ...

... or you could read anything ... LITERALLY ANYTHING ... by Milton Friedman. Would you like to borrow one ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 08:00 PM (fiGNd)

524 Don't know about Lustig's Fat Chance, but I do know lusting's fap chance (~100%).

Posted by: Intermittent Fapper at June 07, 2016 08:01 PM (sattt)

525 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 07:59 PM (fiGNd)


I really think when all is said and done, it'll turn out all the awards he wore were legit. The precedence and subsequent award devices for some have changed over the years and it seems that he didn't update the order or the devices. Also, it seems there is likely some missing paperwork, as opposed to "I'll just wear it and no one will ask."

Posted by: Country Singer at June 07, 2016 08:02 PM (GUBah)

526 >>>I love Dr. Fung! I'm in the middle of The Obesity Code right now and his explanations of the insulin hypothesis, as well as how metabolism actually works versus how we've been loosely taught it works are wonderful!

I am fully keto and lost 60 lb in the past year. I've got 20 more to go until I'm happy. I have managed to lose six dress sizes and all my bloodwork has come back as optimal. So this is just my way of life now.

...

congrats. the Lustig Book goes into more detail about the biological pathways that Fung sketched out briefly, but it's also written in a bloggier, more conspiratorial style. (Everyone who's ever written a diet book, except him, is a crank out to fleece you, including Atkins, despite his general agreement with the bulk of atkins.)

Still it gets into more detail about the different pathways. I don't know if it gets better.

Definitely sugar is a more seriously harmful substance than I ever thought as a kid (when I'd drink two big gulps a day!)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:02 PM (dciA+)

527 Ace, fasting is great for you. Start off first month at 24 hours a each week of just fresh juice and water. Then next month try and stretch it to 48 hours. Work up gradually each month until you can tolerate nothing but sips of water for 24-48 hours a few times a month.

It's the fountain of youth.

Posted by: injured athlete at June 07, 2016 08:02 PM (X/5o4)

528 >>>
Dude. This is Ace.

He can barely finish reading a short story with a 3 week head start.

yeah i'm not into series, usually. at least i'm adverse to trying them.

Game of Thrones has really confirmed that bias for me.

btw: How fucking miserably boring is this season? Every week, nothing happens, they just set things up to happen in the future.

But.

They.

Never.

Happen.

Spoiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (dciA+)

529 "The Pugilist at Rest" by Thom Jones. True, unabashed, testosterone infused writing that is deep, reflective and just damn good. It's a series of short stories that any man (ok, any alpha man) can burn through. The title story is amazing. It won the Newberry book award. FWIW.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (SeD0w)

530 am I to understand that Lindsey Graham is now setting the standard for who can be the GOP nominee now?

Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (2Ocf1)

531 508

"Would it pay to start in chronological order or is Ringworld his hit and the rest just money skimmers?"

Well he (Niven) doesn't need the money. As I vaguely recall, one of his grandfathers was named Mulholland and one was named Van Nuys.

For Niven, read Ringworld, R. Engineers, and his short stories.

But at this late date (the advance of technology) all old SciFi can be irritating.

Try short stories. One of his short stories was a guy getting drunk at a bar. He was on the first contact mission to a carnivorous race with advanced genetic technology. Imagine knowing that there might be millions of clones of you personally that are being grown for meat.

Posted by: Something Guy at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (GyTPW)

532 Sheesh, you guys are going to end up like Sunny Von Bulow in a coma bc she was shooting up insulin to lose weight.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 08:05 PM (iQIUe)

533 >>>... or you could read anything ... LITERALLY ANYTHING ... by Milton Friedman. Would you like to borrow one ?

nah, no thanks. the next political book i read will be the book club selection "True Believer" which Peter S. Dee is going to lead the discussion on (because i can't be trusted to finish these fucking books).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:05 PM (dciA+)

534 Spoiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.


I quit reading the series in book 4 for that reason.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 08:05 PM (9nt94)

535 YMMV but I quite liked Flashback by Dan Simmons. It's a near future dystopian scyfy novel of life in the crumbling remains of the US after a few more years of Obamunism. It is in the form of a murder mystery noir in which a former cop PI addicted to the new cool drug, Flashback, is hired by one of our new Japanese overlords to investigate the death of his son and heir apparent. It has a Philip K. Dickish ending and I thought it was great fun.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 07, 2016 08:06 PM (Nwg0u)

536 wasn't Molly Ringworld in that Brunch Club movie or something?

Posted by: WaldoTJ at June 07, 2016 08:06 PM (M1MpJ)

537
Winter is coming.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 08:06 PM (XgPhs)

538 I just started "Rogue Lawyer"
by John Grisham - it's excellent !

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2016 08:06 PM (zGFbF)

539 "I really think when all is said and done, it'll turn out all the awards he wore were legit."

Possibly. Hell ... Probably.

Won't affect his rest one way or the other. He paid. Screw those quibbling over the amount.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 08:06 PM (fiGNd)

540 Ace and overweight morons (2/3 of adult Americans) may want to check out my website...

Posted by: scrood at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (3b9U4)

541 I mentioned here before I'm on a Jane Austen kick...... Read Mansfield Park and moved on to Persuasion......

Posted by: donna at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (O2RFr)

542 >>>ce, fasting is great for you. Start off first month at 24 hours a each week of just fresh juice and water.

i've done 24 hours with just coffee and water (no juice -- juice has sugar).

I may try 36 hours (dinner one day to breakfast two days later).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (dciA+)

543 Spoiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (dciA+)

*Looks around my books shelves*

So, you are more in the market for pamphlets?

I think I have a "Great Jewish Sports Legends" around here somewhere...



(Airplane! was awesome.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (3ZoRf)

544 Persuasion is my favorite Austen novel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (rmw+9)

545 >>>537
Winter is coming.

NOTHING IS COMING.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (dciA+)

546 Chique d'afrique - If you're still around, earlier you wanted to know how to replace Agatha Christie, since you've read them all. I suggest Ruth Rendell. Superior mystery writer. Wit, intelligence, eagle-eye for human foibles. Also writes under Barbara Vine, which is more macabre in the psychological arena. None of her books are nail-biting terrors with slashers hiding in basements, which I really can't stand.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2016 08:08 PM (CFc5L)

547 By the All Spark, the thread is back

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:08 PM (RbRGC)

548 As far as books go, I've been working my way through Discworld for the past two or three months. Hilarious books! Although I have taken a break to read the English translations of the Witcher books. Finished both short story collections and am now in book 2 (Times of Contempt) of the novels. I'm really enjoying it so far.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at June 07, 2016 08:08 PM (KkVB6)

549 >>>
I quit reading the series in book 4 for that reason.

i was very tempted.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:08 PM (dciA+)

550 I can kill off a few more popular characters. Would that be something?

Posted by: George R.R. Martin at June 07, 2016 08:09 PM (8ZskC)

551 548 As far as books go, I've been working my way through Discworld for the past two or three months. Hilarious books! Although I have taken a break to read the English translations of the Witcher books. Finished both short story collections and am now in book 2 (Times of Contempt) of the novels. I'm really enjoying it so far.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at June 07, 2016 08:08 PM (KkVB6)

I have read the ones that are already translated. Pretty good, especially if you like the characters from the games. I kind of wonder how they would grab me without that foundation, though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:10 PM (3ZoRf)

552 The problem with Game of Thrones is there are too many story lines they are trying to follow simultaneously. North of the Wall, Castle Black, Winterfell, The Vale, Riverrun, King's Landing, Dorne, etc.

They have to skip many of the story lines every week and those that they touch on, they do just that. Touch on them before they have to jump to something else. Since they are following so many stories, they should have each show be something like 2 hours just so they can stay connected with everything.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 08:11 PM (R+30W)

553 Spoiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.


The Many-Faced God is disappointed by your lack of enthusiasm.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 07, 2016 08:11 PM (8ZskC)

554 Spoiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (dciA+)


Ugh...I'm just realizing this and I've read all the books and am watching season 5 on DVD. You think I would have noticed this before. It's really a very dumb series. But it's like an optical illusion, once you see how dumb it all is you can't unsee it.

Posted by: Max Power at June 07, 2016 08:11 PM (q177U)

555 for women, i guess, I read a french book called La Femme Sans Peur. It's in english translation, too. About some woman with panic who sleeps with a scientist to get a pill that makes her fearless.

It's very meh. I don't know though, maybe it's good for chick-lit?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:11 PM (dciA+)

556 I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes April 2. I immediately found dietdoctor.com/Jason Fung. I have been eating lchf religiously for a month now, and just started doing IF this week (18 hours a day, I don't eat until at least noon the next day, am not hungry). I have lost inches off my waistline in just this week and my bgl is within normal range already. I have more energy than ever and since starting lchf, I've lost almost 15 pounds----since April. No exercise aside from loads more energy and keeping busy with housework/kids. Also kicked drinking, so that helps too.

Posted by: Bee at June 07, 2016 08:12 PM (B1Fvs)

557 I have to say, I did enjoy Ciersi's walk of shame.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 07, 2016 08:12 PM (8ZskC)

558 >>>Ugh...I'm just realizing this and I've read all the books and am watching season 5 on DVD. You think I would have noticed this before. It's really a very dumb series. But it's like an optical illusion, once you see how dumb it all is you can't unsee it.

it's like as if they made a series of Rocky III, and Clubber Lang beats up Rocky in Season 1, and then seven years later they're still showing Rocky preparing for the rematch and you're like what the fuck, man?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (dciA+)

559 I'd recommend. "Pandora's Star" by Peter Hamilton

Posted by: NativeNH at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (+k6Wu)

560 NOTHING IS COMING.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:07 PM (dciA+)

Ace, Do you not have ANY female neighbors you could borrow a hair dryer from?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (rmw+9)

561 552 The problem with Game of Thrones is there are too many story lines they are trying to follow simultaneously. North of the Wall, Castle Black, Winterfell, The Vale, Riverrun, King's Landing, Dorne, etc.

They have to skip many of the story lines every week and those that they touch on, they do just that. Touch on them before they have to jump to something else. Since they are following so many stories, they should have each show be something like 2 hours just so they can stay connected with everything.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 08:11 PM (R+30W)

This was one of Jordan's problems. He did ok when there were three to four storylines and character perspectives. It started to go off the rails when he doubled that and kept going.

Still an amazing author. Loved his work, even in the middle when it seemed like he was wandering in a desert. It is sad that he passed away so soon.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (3ZoRf)

562 I only fast between paydays.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (YCHOA)

563 >>>491 The Laws of Thermodynamics hold. They Hold. Always and everywhere. Every bit of energy you expend comes from somewhere.

However, well consider trying to run you car on kerosene. Energy in is energy out, but the damn car isn't going to run too well on the kerosene. In fact, it's going to be limping and skipping and making a mess. Your mileage would be awful, since it was so damn inefficient. Yet energy in = energy out, forever and always.

It's the same with your body. Fast carbs in the processed shit Big Food has moved to for a host of a reasons is just basically something the human body can't handle. We didn't evolve to be able to handle that much carbs being converted to glucose so damn fast and provoking an over-insulin response.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 07, 2016 03:59 PM (DW+jj)

_______

Think of it this way. Thermodynamics say absolutely nothing about how that energy is used.

Hormones do that. They say whether the energy is used to make breast tissue or grow facial hair or muscle mass or adipose tissue or cancer or a fingernail

IGF-1 receptors tell your hair follicles to either live or die when exposed to testosterone - thats how male pattern baldness works.

So while those foods have the same energy, they trigger different hormonal reactions and that is why some foods make your body want to accumulate adipose tissue (body fat) while others don't.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (ab2et)

564
I have to say, I did enjoy Ciersi's walk of shame.

I'd say that marked the point when Game Of Thrones turned into a newer version of Guccione's Caligula.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 08:14 PM (XgPhs)

565 557 I have to say, I did enjoy Ciersi's walk of shame.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 07, 2016 08:12 PM (8ZskC)

++++

Should I spoil it for you? Yep, I am that kind of guy.
http://tinyurl.com/p6cslke

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 08:15 PM (R+30W)

566 Just think if HBO decided to pluck from relative obscurity another fantasy book to turn into a series...

Say Hodgell's God Stalk where a young lass with amnesia named Jame has to find and solve many mysteries in a city known for being overrun by gods and laid out like a puzzle: the fabulous and frightening Tai-Tastigon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:15 PM (RbRGC)

567 I've been reading Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. I think I'm definitely into this cyber-whatever kind of writing.


Loved Ready Player One and Armada by Ernest Cline.


I also really liked the Mars Series by Kim Stanley Robinson, mostly for the terraforming stuff.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:15 PM (+eR2D)

568 Yeah screw "game of thrones" dude kills off all the main characters

Posted by: NativeNH at June 07, 2016 08:16 PM (+k6Wu)

569
Ned Stark was the only likable character and he lasted, what, 5 episodes?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 08:16 PM (XgPhs)

570 191 Re sci-fi: The Foundation trilogy by Asimov is a fun classic.
Posted by: Beverly at June 07, 2016 01:56 PM (zge9P)


Yup. Just re-read it, again, and loved it.

The others in the series that he did later might be worth avoiding though. I read one of them, and couldn't make head not tail of it. As far as I could tell, the citizens of the Foundation were deciding to break with the Plan and somehow merge into some sort of Borg/Gaia organism instead. Weird, anti-human stuff. Dammit, the story was the Plan, and I wanted to continue that story.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (iMxBJ)

571 I'm reading the most nerdy thing ever.

The Witcher

Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (U7v0V)

572 I like what I've read of Tom Perrotta. Little Children, though disturbing, was very well written. So was The Abstinence Teacher. I wouldn't read them one after the other they way I did. The whole suburbia is a seething cesspool just beneath the surface is tired. Robbers, by Christopher Cook takes a bit to get going, but it's worth reading. Mary Karr's memoir The Liar's Club is compelling. It was amusing to try and figure out who the people in the book are in real life. She's from my hometown and graduated with my mother.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (9nt94)

573 Snow Crash is a classic and fitting on these fast times, now almost forgotten by all the droogs who busily jacking in the Metaverse Stephenson envisioned.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (RbRGC)

574 >>I'd say that marked the point when Game Of Thrones turned into a newer version of Guccione's Caligula.

I'm pretty sure that particular shark got jumped in like the first episode when Viseryes made Dany get naked in front of him because .. well because every guy likes to feel up his sister before he pimps her out.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (/tuJf)

575 Ned Stark was the only likable character and he lasted, what, 5 episodes?

Seriously ... who didn't see Sean Bean and go "Yeah, he's fucked." ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 08:18 PM (fiGNd)

576 The Foundation Trilogy makes a good audio book.

21 hours or something so good for long trips.

Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2016 08:18 PM (2Ocf1)

577 Say Hodgell's God Stalk where a young lass with amnesia named Jame has to find and solve many mysteries in a city known for being overrun by gods and laid out like a puzzle: the fabulous and frightening Tai-Tastigon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:15 PM (RbRGC)

Never heard of that one. I am assuming it is good?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:19 PM (3ZoRf)

578 "been reading Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. I think I'm definitely into this cyber-whatever kind of writing.
"

Neal Stephenson is the best.

If you are liking cyberpunk I also highly recommend William Gibson.

Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:19 PM (U7v0V)

579 >>>Ned Stark was the only likable character and he lasted, what, 5 episodes?

most of the stark children are likable but they've almost all been sidelined doing endless Side Quests for Quest Givers to Rack Up Experience Points and Get L33t Gear for fucking seven years of the game, I mean the show, now.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:19 PM (dciA+)

580 Snow Crash is a classic and fitting on these
fast times, now almost forgotten by all the droogs who busily jacking in
the Metaverse Stephenson envisioned.


Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (RbRGC)



I have a bunch of Stephenson's works in the queue. Hopefully I enjoy them just as much.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:19 PM (+eR2D)

581 Didn't everyone after reading Snow Crash want to become a Deliverator for La Costa Nostra Pizza? Seriously.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:19 PM (RbRGC)

582 I really dig William Gibson's writing, and I have missed out on the last couple he has written - Spook Country was the last one I read. I am going to have to pick the others up.

Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2016 08:20 PM (2Ocf1)

583 i got foundation on Kindle but haven't read it yet. I tried reading it once, long ago, as a kid. i set it aside. we'll see if I can get through it this time.

I read some of his robot novels with R. Neel Olivaw or whatever. He's kinda dry.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:20 PM (dciA+)

584 No election thread?

BTW, Rene Ellmers lost.

Posted by: The Electoral Hat at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (vBeA5)

585 "581 Didn't everyone after reading Snow Crash want to become a Deliverator for La Costa Nostra Pizza? Seriously. "

Haha of course.

Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (U7v0V)

586 poiler alert: There is nothing to spoil in Game of Thrones. Nothing fucking happens.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:04 PM (dciA+)
===========
A lot fckin happened. Famous actor shows up and his killed. Favorite dead guy isnt dead. Arnya joins troupe of actors.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (iQIUe)

587 563 So while those foods have the same energy, they trigger different hormonal reactions and that is why some foods make your body want to accumulate adipose tissue (body fat) while others don't.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 07, 2016 08:13 PM (ab2et)


Yup. In one of Taubes' books, he mentions how squirrels in the lab, fed a constant diet, will still fatten up for winter. And no, they don't jog. Their bodies just aim more calories at fat accumulation rather than other organs; another vector is how much goes into heat.

This is something I've noticed in my own life. I figure my systems are broken in the way that Taubes talks about, and a youthful appetite for sugar is probably the reason why. I find that if I've been low-carbing for a while, and I have some carbs, I'll get really really hot for a while. I think that's the healthy "burning it off automatically" reaction that keeps some people slim. But it only has so much to give, in my case.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (iMxBJ)

588 I have been eating lchf religiously for a month now,

What is lchf- low carbohydrate, high fat?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (rmw+9)

589 I did low carb until I lost 20 lbs. ( never gave up my beer though) That was really all I needed to lose but kept up the low carb M-F after that and eat any and everything I could find on the weekends. Lost another 10. Still doing the same and have maintained for over a year.

Posted by: Molly k at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (YUgLc)

590 >>> No election thread?

BTW, Rene Ellmers lost.

...

awesome. I'll put up a thread.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:21 PM (dciA+)

591
Sansa is such a sour puss. All her scenes depress and bore me. Plus, she's like 35 now.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 08:22 PM (XgPhs)

592 >>I have a bunch of Stephenson's works in the queue. Hopefully I enjoy them just as much.


I read a pile of his stuff over the last 5 years or so. Liked almost all of it enough to re-read them.

Except Zodiac.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 08:22 PM (I8Bd1)

593 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:17 PM (RbRGC)

Zodiac is pretty good as well, and REAMDE wasn't bad either

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:22 PM (wYnyS)

594 I don't own a hair dryer. I do use the wall heater sometimes, which blows out hot air. Ace, do you have a blowing heater in your joint?

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2016 08:23 PM (CFc5L)

595 Thanks Lauren! I also have the Neuromancer series by Gibson lined up to read.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:23 PM (+eR2D)

596 "591
Sansa is such a sour puss. All her scenes depress and bore me. Plus, she's like 35 now."

Well being brutally raped repeatedly by the Worst Character Ever Imagined tends to sour the mood.

Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:23 PM (U7v0V)

597 Oh what the hell Pixy?! Why does copying someone's comment result in a "long string" error? FFS.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:24 PM (+eR2D)

598 Aestius I shall try to summarize.

Jame stumbles into the city being pursued by that world's version of zombies. She has no clear memories but she has skills and training. And she promptly lands in the middle of a budding war between factions of the Thieves Guild because a retired master thief has made her his apprentice even as she tries to dodge being killed by the one priest of her people in the city. And as a side job, she works for an inn that is in an undeclared war with a competing inn. Plus she is looking for her brother.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:24 PM (RbRGC)

599
Well being brutally raped repeatedly by the Worst Character Ever Imagined tends to sour the mood.

We all got problems, Lauren.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 07, 2016 08:24 PM (XgPhs)

600 Neuromancer is definitely a must read.

Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:25 PM (U7v0V)

601 I once tried to read the Wheel of Time series. I got through three of the books, and realized that I had just read the same story, three times. So I stopped.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:25 PM (iMxBJ)

602 >>We all got problems, Lauren.


Hodor!

Posted by: Hodor at June 07, 2016 08:25 PM (I8Bd1)

603 Ace, do you have a blowing heater in your joint?
Posted by: washrivergal
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I don't think Allahpundit lives with ace.

Posted by: Chi at June 07, 2016 08:26 PM (DoY1a)

604 Jame stumbles into the city being pursued by that world's version of zombies. She has no clear memories but she has skills and training. And she promptly lands in the middle of a budding war between factions of the Thieves Guild because a retired master thief has made her his apprentice even as she tries to dodge being killed by the one priest of her people in the city. And as a side job, she works for an inn that is in an undeclared war with a competing inn. Plus she is looking for her brother.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:24 PM (RbRGC)

And that's the summary? So you are saying this is simpler than Jordan?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:26 PM (3ZoRf)

605 What is lchf- low carbohydrate, high fat?

Michelob Light and a Center Cut Pork Chop.

Enjoy !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

606 Chique d'afrique - If you're still around, earlier you wanted to know how to replace Agatha Christie, since you've read them all.

-
I quite liked The House of Silk by Anthony Horowitz. It's an official Sherlock Holmes novel. On his deathbed, Dr. Watson relates a tale simply too shocking for Victorian readers. It will keep you guessing.

For a series, try the Inspector Ian Rutledge mysteries by Charles Todd. The inspector comes home from WWI haunted by a soldier he shot for cowardice and tries to hang on to his fragile mental health while solving mysteries for the Yard.

You might also like The Monogram Murders by Sophie Hannah, a new authorized Poirot mystery.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 07, 2016 08:26 PM (Nwg0u)

607 Cryptonomicon is the gold standard for me!

I could see young Neal in Zodiac.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:27 PM (wYnyS)

608 Well being brutally raped repeatedly by the Worst Character Ever Imagined tends to sour the mood.
Posted by: Lauren at June 07, 2016 08:23 PM (U7v0V)

Yep, that is my rule these days (and has been for 20 years after reading, but sticking with The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant): Once the gratuitous rape (and they have to work really damn hard to make it not gratuitous) comes out, I am fucking done.

I hate that narrative device.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:27 PM (3ZoRf)

609 597 Oh what the hell Pixy?! Why does copying someone's comment result in a "long string" error? FFS.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:24 PM (+eR2D)


You've been here long enough know better than asking why we're stuck in a virtual rubber room.

Posted by: Ramalamadingdong at June 07, 2016 08:28 PM (RcpcZ)

610 603 Ace, do you have a blowing heater in your joint?
Posted by: washrivergal
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I don't think Allahpundit lives with ace.
Posted by: Chi at June 07, 2016 08:26 PM (DoY1a)

I knew I would come to grief with that question. Didn't know how else to phrase it. You have to be careful, real careful here.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2016 08:28 PM (CFc5L)

611 What is lchf- low carbohydrate, high fat?

Yes, low carb/high fat. I eat about 20 grams of veggie carbs a day (low glycemic), moderate protein and full fat (coconut oil, olive oil, butter, cream, etc.).

Posted by: Bee at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (B1Fvs)

612 Apparently Intermittent fasting -- which I had good results with, but then stopped a while ago -- is now widely accepted by doctors (if not completely) as healthy.

Maybe not completely, but enough for you to take comfort in the concensus.

Posted by: NOAA at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (sattt)

613
Hey Wicket, maybe you should consider putting up a weekly Book Thread.

Sunday sounds like a good day for it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (LuZz8)

614 I HIGHLY recommend S.C. Gwynne's book on Stonewall Jackson: "Rebel Yell." It's not a traditional biography. While it covers much of Jackson's life, the focus is on his activity just before and during the Civil War. The guy was such a contradiction...it's just another entry in "Guys who were fuck-ups in real life but really kicked ass in the Civil War" category. And Gwynne does a great job of guiding you through all of it.

I mention that because I'm now reading Gwynne's earlier book "Empire of the Summer Moon." I'm only 50 pages in and I think I have learned more about Indians...errrrr...Native Americans... than I ever did in school. (The same could be said of Nathaniel Philbrick's "Mayflower," but I digress). Some people have a natural talent for telling stories, and Gwynne is one of them.

Posted by: dginnorcal at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (3OTR8)

615 I'm actually re-reading Sense and Sensibility. Only thing is, I find myself fighting hard to stay awake long enough to read a few chapters. I hate when that happens.

Oh, and I don't think I could do IF. I like to eat too much. I run 6x a week, so it really offsets whatever I feel like eating. Though, the only meat I'll eat is seafood and occasionally some turkey. I don't eat fried food either. My weakness is snack crackers and sweets.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (+FSld)

616 I am once again reading some obscure religious work that probably 1000 people in the US have ever heard of. ;^) This one is called "Life Secrets" by Dr. Henry Foster who established a natural springs spa in the Finger Lakes region of NY for ministers,missionaries and teachers back in the middle 1800s. Each day has a little devotional taken from his chapel talks (He was a Christian) and they have to do with such themes as intimacy with God, praying in adversity, When God says no and the conversion we need. He sounds like he was a good and a devout man who really cared about people and the spiritual advice is wise and compassionate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (rmw+9)

617 "the coming Caesars" by Amaury de Reincourt


published sixty years ago by a Frog, it predicts the last six decades avec amazing accuracy


We're Rome, we're f*cked.....

Posted by: Ho Lee Fuk at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (/542q)

618 The only "Intermittent Fasting" I do is that I skip breakfast when I'm not ravenous in the morning.

Used to be, they'd tell you that skipping breakfast was a good way to get fat. Turned out that was bullsh!t.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:30 PM (iMxBJ)

619 >>>Yep, that is my rule these days (and has been for 20 years after reading, but sticking with The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant): Once the gratuitous rape (and they have to work really damn hard to make it not gratuitous) comes out, I am fucking done.

I hate that narrative device.

...

it happens in the Stars My Destination too but it's described so obliquely some might not realize it

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:30 PM (dciA+)

620 Aestius, not counting the appendixes to God Stalk the original Atheneum hardcover is only 265 pages. Baen now bundles it with its sequel volume Dark of the Moon.

http://www.baen.com/the-god-stalker-chronicles.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:31 PM (RbRGC)

621 >>Cryptonomicon is the gold standard


Loved it.

I think The Mongoliad is next up, for me.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2016 08:31 PM (I8Bd1)

622 >>>Hey Wicket, maybe you should consider putting up a weekly Book Thread.

Sunday sounds like a good day for it.

...

i would drop by but I try to keep off the internet on weekends for health reasons. I do not believe the internet is a very healthy thing.

It's pretty terrible on my eyes, for one thing.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (dciA+)

623 Ace, you stole me!

Posted by: OregonMuse's Thunder at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (EE1Qo)

624 I've seen alot of recommendations for Brandon Sanderson and Mistborn and I can't disagree. My 2 cents on it is that the second Mistborn series (set hundreds of years in the future from the first) is much better than the first. Largely because I found Mistborn 1.2 (series 1, book 2) to be such a slog, 1.1 though was quite good. Really anything by Brandon Sanderson is very good, so long as you stay away from his young adult stuff, which is very formulaic and predictable.

Jim Butcher is fantastic as well, Dresden files is 10/10, Codex Alera is 7.5/10 and The Aeronaut's Windlass is 7/10.

John Ringo has a bunch of great stuff, the problem is that his first book usually outclasses the rest of the series and then he never finishes a series. As an example - Live Free or Die and Under a Graveyard Sky are absolutely fantastic, but the followup series (Troy Rising and Black Tide Rising) are merely good and will probably never be finished.

To round it out, the Kingkiller Chronicles by Pat Rothfuss is the best epic fantasy series I've read and the Man of War by H Paul Honsinger is the best space opera series I've read.

Posted by: the pi man at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (4T9ZW)

625 605 What is lchf- low carbohydrate, high fat?

Or Green Beans covered in White Gravy ?

I'm trying to help.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (fiGNd)

626 I've been reading my books dedicatedly this year because I have over a twelve-hundred, probably half not read yet, and if I didn't get serious, I realized I'd die before reading them.

This included a lot of sci-fi. (You can see my reviews on GoodReads, I think. "blake" is the user name.)

I've been so embarrassed by so much of it. Isaac Asimov was a child. His robot stuff is so poorly thought out. Harlan Ellison, a very angry and neurotic teenager. He's like if Holden Caufield wrote books.

There's some good pulp. I just read Zelazny's "Damnation Alley" which is fun.

Posted by: moviegique at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (CcUfv)

627 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:15 PM (+eR2D)

Ctl-alt-revolt is pretty good.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:33 PM (wYnyS)

628 If anyone is looking for fun, fast reading fantasy with absolutely no real grit, David Eddings is great. He recycles plot points and characters, but I just enjoy reading his books.

Sue me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:33 PM (3ZoRf)

629 I know I'm late to the party but this thread is turning me from forever lurker into an active commenter because I must recommend you the Surgeon in Blue: Jonathan Letterman, The Civil War Doctor I'm reading now. It's an historical overview of how battlefield and emergency medicine were developed in the US as a result of catastrophically rudimentary military hospital at the beginning of the Civil war. Union heads definitely didn't consider medical care of wounded soldiers as an important task (Surprise!). Financial investment into the field ambulance and med equipment was thought to be a capricious luxury as much as selecting skilled doctors for the task. The book is full of detailed and grotesque descriptions of how wounded were treated that will make you cringe. I am a healthcare worker and I've seen it all, but I'm still telling myself how lucky we are to be born now and not then when it comes to trauma treatment and med field in general.

Posted by: Mitten bound at June 07, 2016 08:34 PM (0yfal)

630 619 it happens in the Stars My Destination too but it's described so obliquely some might not realize it
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:30 PM (dciA+)


Alfred Bester? I was on a Bester kick for a while, then concluded that he is a deeply weird dude, and I haven't read one since. Don't remember which work put me over the top.

van Vogt is pretty weird too, but not in such an unsettling way. I still re-read The Weapon Shops of Isher from time to time. "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free."

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:34 PM (iMxBJ)

631 Posted by: Mitten bound at June 07, 2016 08:34 PM (0yfal)

Sounds good.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 07, 2016 08:35 PM (CFc5L)

632 @535
I like everything I've ever read from Dan Simmons, but when Flashback came out I was not (and am still not) sure I could take it. I'm pretty sure I'd be suicidal after reading a dystopian novel penned by Simmons..

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 07, 2016 08:35 PM (lq0p0)

633 Posted by: the pi man at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (4T9ZW)

The first two books of epic fantasy he has written I liked a lot- The Stormlight Archive books. I am not sure how he is going to get to ten books, but the two so far are pretty fun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:36 PM (3ZoRf)

634 For fans of gritty espionage type action, try Mark Greaney's Gray Man series. The protaganist is a CIA trained assassin, like Jason Bourne, but without Matt Damon's whiny emo pussy angst.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 07, 2016 08:36 PM (HL3BI)

635 My 2 cents on it is that the second Mistborn series (set hundreds of years in the future from the first) is much better than the first.

Oh good, I just picked up The Alloy of Law.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 08:36 PM (9nt94)

636 i didn't finish it -- i don't know many who did -- but I did get 3/4ths of the way through House of Blue Leaves by Daniel Something Jewish or Something.

It's pretty good. very weird. you have to see how weird it is, as a physical thing.

Can't be put into kindle form -- the book is very weirdly formatted. Half of the story takes place in footnotes and appendices.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:37 PM (dciA+)

637 Ctl-alt-revolt is pretty good.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:33 PM (wYnyS)



I'll check it out. Thanks!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:37 PM (+eR2D)

638 Read Larry Correia's recent venture into fantasy, Son of the Black Sword. I was really skeptical that he could pull it off, but I loved it. By the end, I was no longer skeptical, just pissed that I'd have to wait a long time for Book 2.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:37 PM (iMxBJ)

639 A bit of self-promotion, my book "From Here to Here" is receiving 4 star reviews.

Posted by: Kilroy at June 07, 2016 08:37 PM (yjmRY)

640 Ace, you stole me!
Posted by: OregonMuse's Thunder at June 07, 2016 08:32 PM (EE1Qo)


Ace completes me!

Posted by: Renee Zellwegger at June 07, 2016 08:39 PM (sattt)

641 Judgement Square lay sleek in the moonlight. The stalls that had freckled its surface by midday were gone now and their owners with them, leaving the great, triangular flagstones to wind-whirled debris and the small group gathered in front of the Mercy Seat. The Master of Mercy was arguing with the four guardsmen while his assistant crouched behind him tending a brazier whose coals sparkled fitfully. The wind bore none of his complaint upward. Knowing his reputation as a perfectionist, however, it was easy enough to guess that he was bitterly protesting the conditions under which these hulking guards expected him to work. What did they know of craftsmanship? What did they care? To them, only results mattered, and now they were set on creating an example. At last the Master shrugged and opened his tool case while his assistant took an iron from the fire and spat on it experimentally. The pale, thin form that sprawled on the Seat did not move as the two men bent over it. The drugs had done their work well; once again, the Master had justified his title.

pg 157. God Stalk. Atheneum edition 1982

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 08:39 PM (RbRGC)

642 Oh, and I admit I have been nostalgic lately and read my way through Beverly Cleary's Ramona series. I think I may have to do Judy Blume's Fudge series too, just for the heck of it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:39 PM (+eR2D)

643 The Alienist is going to be made into a mini-series for TNT. So read it before they ruin it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 07, 2016 08:40 PM (p2X2f)

644 Ace is the helpful hardback place!

Posted by: zombie Bennett Cerf at June 07, 2016 08:40 PM (yjmRY)

645 I have never had Facebook, twitter, myspace, etc.
I can barely keep up with this blog, my email, and texts!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at June 07, 2016 08:41 PM (xVgrA)

646 632 @535
I like everything I've ever read from Dan Simmons, but when Flashback came out I was not (and am still not) sure I could take it. I'm pretty sure I'd be suicidal after reading a dystopian novel penned by Simmons..
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 07, 2016 08:35 PM (lq0p0)


Simmons is a frigging genius, but I've not been able to get through the book in two tries. They need a word stronger than dystopian. Hard to judge without getting through it, but I'm not sure his writing was helped by completely opening the floodgates and letting his politics shine through, even though they are a lot like my politics.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:41 PM (iMxBJ)

647 Re-reading Jean Raspail's "Camp of the Saints." I don't know whether to recommend it other than as a pre-PC relic; in that sense it's very interesting. Raspail is still alive and well outside Paris, I was surprised to learn.

Highly recommended: "Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and the Age of Social Catastrophe," and "Hernando de Soto: a Savage Quest for the Americas," both also recently read a second time.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2016 08:42 PM (9EIfi)

648 Are there any Type 2 diabetics here doing IF?

Honestly, I could go without breakfast in the morning. I'm not really hungry, but wonder if that's wise.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread -- Be Caller #9 To Win Bupkis! at June 07, 2016 08:42 PM (rJUlF)

649 Posted by: Bee at June 07, 2016 08:29 PM (B1Fvs)
I've been doing the low carb thing and it works. I'm interested in the IF.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 07, 2016 08:43 PM (egOGm)

650 "Vampire$" or "Armor" by John Steakley?

The movie "John Carpenter's Vampires" is

based on Steakley's book. I thoroughly enjoyed
the book and the movie.

I read Armor after that. Thought it was great, even though I'm not a big sci-fi fan.

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2016 08:43 PM (zGFbF)

651 Speaking of old Eastwood films, remember Coogan's Bluff? Always liked that one.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 08:44 PM (iQIUe)

652 I didn't like "A Canticle for Liebowitz."


ibid

Posted by: JT at June 07, 2016 08:45 PM (zGFbF)

653 I finished reading "The Substrate Wars" -- a three-book sci-fi series by Jeb Kinnison. It starts with libertarian science geeks taking on the SJW-led government, but ends up a typical sci-fi "beat the invaders" story by book 3. It's OK, but the third book was a bit of a slog.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread -- Be Caller #9 To Win Bupkis! at June 07, 2016 08:46 PM (rJUlF)

654
i didn't finish it -- i don't know many who did -- but I did get 3/4ths
of the way through House of Blue Leaves by Daniel Something Jewish or
Something.



Ace, are you talking about House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski? The book where parts of it you have to read sideways and whatnot? Trippy.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:47 PM (+eR2D)

655 650 "Vampire$" or "Armor" by John Steakley?
Posted by: JT at June 07, 2016 08:43 PM (zGFbF)


Yeah, Armor is great, and Vampires is a lesser book, but a pretty fun read. I don't understand why that is his entire writing output.

It's like Christopher Hinz. Dammit, you wrote the Paratwa trilogy, which is completely awesome. Why did you stop writing??

If you have not read the Paratwa trilogy, well, you should. Leige-Killer is the first. It's SF about a future world with mind-linked pairs of humans who form the perfect assassins.

Posted by: Splunge at June 07, 2016 08:47 PM (iMxBJ)

656 I like...ok love...dystopian/post-apocalyptic fiction. But, I also did not like, "A Canticle for Leibowitz." It is nice to hear I am not the only one.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:48 PM (+eR2D)

657 Ooh, a live thread when I'm actually reading the blog! I've recently been binging on the mystery novels of R. Austin Freeman. He came to my attention as one of the very few mystery novelists that Raymond Chandler commended as crafting plausible plots wherein criminals, victims and investigators alike acted as people do in real life, and crucial plot points are not hidden from the reader. I'm a huge fan of Chandler, so this was a significant recommendation for me.

The sleuth in these novels is almost always Dr. John Thorndyke, a "medico-legal" practitioner who is both a medical doctor and a barrister (the novels are mostly set in England). He functions mostly as what we call today a criminalist, usually functioning as an expert witness, although he occasionally argues a case before the Court as well.

A modern reader may find his Victorian writing style off-putting at first, especially in the pre-WW I novels, and Chandler took nothing of Freeman's style. However, it's clear to me that Freeman was a massive influence upon Chandler's plots and exposition. Not that Chandler lifted any of Freeman's plots, but he clearly used many of Freeman's ideas, and definitely patterned his manner of exposition after Freeman's.

I have been reading the novels in chronological order, and while after a few novels his plots begin to get a little transparent, as one proceeds through them they get increasingly more clever and difficult to foresee, as Freeman develops a facility for brilliant misdirection while still being honest with the reader.

I highly recommend them for any fan of Chandler's or Hammet's plots. The noir element is of course absent, but the intelligence is there.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 07, 2016 08:48 PM (0MKRD)

658 I enjoyed both of Niven's memoirs; The Moon's A Balloon and Bring On the Empty Horses.

David Niven right? Wut?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 07, 2016 08:48 PM (Ndje9)

659 >>>8 Are there any Type 2 diabetics here doing IF?

Honestly, I could go without breakfast in the morning. I'm not really hungry, but wonder if that's wise.

read fung's Obseity Code and see his blog (something like "IntensiveMetabolicMaintenance" or something). He's himself a diabetes doc and prescribes this to his diabetic patients. It's where his actual experience in the field comes from.

now, I can't recommend it of course -- i'm not a doctor.

but see his book and his blog. He answers questions if you post in the comments (though I wouldn't post such a basic one as "do you recommend this for type 2 diabetics" because that's obvious, he does, it's his whole point).

search his comments, maybe.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:49 PM (dciA+)

660 Serious question: what differentiates "social media" from a message board or a blog with comments like this one? Is it size or speed or something of that nature? Is it just a term of art that has been selectively supplied to Twitter, etc.?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2016 08:50 PM (9EIfi)

661 >>>oh, a live thread when I'm actually reading the blog! I've recently been binging on the mystery novels of R. Austin Freeman. He came to my attention as one of the very few mystery novelists that Raymond Chandler commended as crafting plausible plots wherein criminals, victims and investigators alike acted as people do in real life, and crucial plot points are not hidden from the reader. I'm a huge fan of Chandler, so this was a significant recommendation for me.

The sleuth in these novels is almost always Dr. John Thorndyke, a "medico-legal" practitioner who is both a medical doctor and a barrister (the novels are mostly set in England). He functions mostly as what we call today a criminalist, usually functioning as an expert witness, although he occasionally argues a case before the Court as well.

...

i'm listening

no seriously i'll kindle this. I'm a huge fan of Chandler (my favorite) and if he likes this guy I'm sold.

I like historic settings anyway. Always makes me feel smarter to "know" things that the Smart Main Character knows that all the other primitive screw-heads don't

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:51 PM (dciA+)

662 Trying to read history and fiction books to get a deeper understanding of history. Just finished plowing through The Divine Comedy over the past year; truly awe-inspiring and beautiful. Now reading biographies of the Medici and Michelangelo and Da Vinci to learn more about the Renaissance. Also reading Hellraisers (about British actors Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris and Oliver Reed) to learn how to perfect the Moron lifestyle.

Posted by: Mike at June 07, 2016 08:51 PM (o38N1)

663 Leige-Killer is the first.

It's in the Kindle Unlimited selection if you pay $10/month to read for free. I certainly get my money's worth every month.

Posted by: no good deed at June 07, 2016 08:51 PM (9nt94)

664 >>>
Ace, are you talking about House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski? The book where parts of it you have to read sideways and whatnot? Trippy.

yeah that one. Very weird, very neolovecraftian strangeness.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:52 PM (dciA+)

665 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:37 PM (+eR2D)

Related comment from a while back

Maet (Overnight Open Thread (3-31-2016) Edition-Maetenloch) included this:

Meanwhile Eve Online is preparing for its largest battle ever. I know nothing about EO but I guess this is a thing. (thanks to CDR M)

Not being a gamer but aware, I naturally clicked on the link and found it fascinating, and peripherally very much like parts of C-A-R. Might be worth a link on Sunday.

IIRC, Contol-Alt-REVOLT was the subject of a book thread recommendation.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:54 PM (wYnyS)

666 At the half: USA 3 Costa Rica 0
That is all

Posted by: StrawMan at June 07, 2016 08:54 PM (lidp8)

667 Are we still talking books? Because if so, I throw in "A Canticle for Leibowitz" (scifi) followed by Alasdair MacIntyre's "After Virtue" (philosophy).
MacIntyre actually references Canticle in the first chapter of his book, so reading canticle first gives you incredible insight into MacIntyre's point.

MacIntyre is basically telling the story of the failure of post-modernism (and late modernity). Which is basically how we got here (not just politically but broadly as a society.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at June 07, 2016 08:54 PM (tM4uk)

668 House of Leaves is also a california novel, and california novels are always already weird.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:55 PM (dciA+)

669 Also reading Hellraisers (about British actors Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, Richard Harris and Oliver Reed) to learn how to perfect the Moron lifestyle.
Posted by: Mike at June 07, 2016 08:51 PM (o38N1)

=========
I can smell the booze thru the computer screen...

Dont forget Robert Shaw, another great actor, writer, and boozer.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 07, 2016 08:56 PM (iQIUe)

670 good california creepy conspiracy novel: Flicker

also neolovecraftian (hidden texts embedded in 1940s art films from obscure German directors)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:56 PM (dciA+)

671 I hate that narrative device.

Yep; I gave up on that writer after that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:56 PM (rmw+9)

672 I like...ok love...dystopian/post-apocalyptic fiction. But, I also did not like, "A Canticle for Leibowitz." It is nice to hear I am not the only one.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:48 PM (+eR2D)


I won't lie, if I hadn't read Canticle with a group (my undergrad lit of scifi class) I wouldn't have liked it as much. I then only liked it more after reading After Virtue.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at June 07, 2016 08:56 PM (tM4uk)

673 House of Leaves is also a california novel, and california novels are always already weird.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 08:55 PM (dciA+)


I've read some weird stuff, but I just couldn't get motivated to go through more than about three chapters.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:57 PM (wYnyS)

674 A book thread on a Tuesday night? I'm confused. And where is the library photo?

Posted by: rickl at June 07, 2016 08:57 PM (sdi6R)

675 I came to the conclusion that Stephen R, Donaldson really has an incredible anger against women and gives the impression of having an unsavory personality.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 08:59 PM (rmw+9)

676
IIRC, Contol-Alt-REVOLT was the subject of a book thread recommendation.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2016 08:54 PM (wYnyS)



I just picked it up...heck for .99 I couldn't resist. Thanks for the rec. I'm a gamer, but not much of an online mass-group gamer. More of a single player or with my small group of friends on xbox.

If I get a chance, I will go back and read that comment/thread though.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at June 07, 2016 08:59 PM (+eR2D)

677 *ponders*

Wonder what I could toss their way for a quick buck or two?
http://escapepod.org/guidelines/

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 07, 2016 09:01 PM (RbRGC)

678 Regarding fasting, about a month ago someone from the horde mentioned Jason Fung's YouTube videos on insulin resistance. I'm not diabetic but I had a feeling this was something I should investigate due to my weight gain and inability to keep the weight off once lost. I watched all six of his series the Aetiology of Obesity and thought it made a lot of sense. The main takeaways were intermittent fasting (he suggested every other day), low carb but eat some fiber with the protein, 2 TBSP of vinegar in a glass of water before bed and take vitamin D. Over the past 3 weeks, with quite a bit of cheating, I've lost 10 pounds. The fasting is easier to do than I thought it would be.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at June 07, 2016 09:02 PM (AnkaJ)

679 I prefer movies. I like books alright but never set aside enough time to read many. I finally saw the Martian after many a moron said how good and factual based the book was. I was underwhelmed. It was more a popcorn flick than a serious sci-fi film. Oh well, i guess i am going to have to science the hell out of this thread.

Posted by: StrawMan at June 07, 2016 09:02 PM (lidp8)

680 Whereas Terry Pratchett (I know he's not "serious" like Donaldson) gave the impression of liking women and liking people generally.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 07, 2016 09:02 PM (rmw+9)

681 Mark Danielewski is the brother of one of my favorite singers, Poe. I think she incorporated some of his writing in her songs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 07, 2016 09:03 PM (eFRS+)

682 400
Movie suggestions:

Ghostbusters (1984)





Groundhog Day (1993?)





Die Hard (198





Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

i remember back in 82 when i had the chance to watch ST-II at the tiny cinema near the family's cabin in Crestline, CA. it was a double feature starting with:

Victory (1981)

with Sylvester Stallone. such a nice, big, feel-good, exciting ending ... that i *almost* was too emotionally exhausted to watch Khan. i watched it, of course.


Posted by: WaldoTJ at June 07, 2016 09:03 PM (M1MpJ)

683 Mark Danielewski is the brother of one of my favorite singers, Poe. I think she incorporated some of his writing in her songs.

She did. The two siblings swapped ideas back and forth whilst composing their own reaction to their father's passing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 07, 2016 09:09 PM (6FqZa)

684 when i get my eyes fixed i'll finish house of leaves (too hard with the small print)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:10 PM (dciA+)

685 Reading The Expanse books that go with the new SyFy series...one of the few instances where the show is better than the books but I liked the show and I wanted to find out what happens.

Posted by: CanaDave at June 07, 2016 09:13 PM (85bkF)

686 when i get my eyes fixed i'll finish house of leaves (too hard with the small print)
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:10 PM (dciA+)

You can always get a magnifying glass like old people have.

Posted by: StrawMan at June 07, 2016 09:13 PM (lidp8)

687 >>>You can always get a magnifying glass like old people have.


i have two

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:14 PM (dciA+)

688 Ace, re IF, it really works, esp. in conjunction with LCHF. Read "Always Hungry." The author proves we need to start eating fat again. In a hurry. We all got fat when the Dept. of Ag started pushing pasta (the greens hate cows and all of the supposed "resources" they use -- plus, they flatulate) and started demonizing beef.

If you haven't heard of "Bulletproof Coffee" or "butter coffee," look it up. It's da bomb. Don't worry about buying "organic, fair-trade coffee" to make it. That's for libtards.

I'm down 28 pounds since Christmas and have been stuck on the same weight for longer than I care to remember. I'm going back to IF. Matter of fact, I ate "dinner" at 1:30 p.m. and that was it for the day.

Posted by: RushBabe at June 07, 2016 09:14 PM (OJKE+)

689 Canticle for Liebowitz I've started and stopped, but my impression of it later in life was better than when I was forced to read it in school. Eh. You like, and perceive, different things as you get older and more life in you.

Social media I never really got. Why do I want to tell all my friends, and random people on the internet, stuff that I don't want to know about random people anyway?

Posted by: unwenchable at June 07, 2016 09:15 PM (Z9dQb)

690 Ace- A job? You're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?

Posted by: scofflaw_x at June 07, 2016 09:15 PM (y9ZJX)

691 these glasses are totally shit, i've gone a year basically being unable to read pleasurably. It's also been hard to do work on the computer.

I can't wait to get my stupid eyes lazed.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:15 PM (dciA+)

692 I quit eating desserts after last Christmas, chewing lots of sugarless gum...lost some weight...at least stopped expanding :+)

I only break the rule when it's someone's birthday...I'm allowed to have a piece of birthday cake because it would be bad luck not to.

Posted by: CanaDave at June 07, 2016 09:16 PM (85bkF)

693 You can always get a magnifying glass like old people have.


i have two
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:14 PM (dciA+)

E-reader? You can increase the font size for easier reading. Of course you have to turn pages like crazy.

Posted by: StrawMan at June 07, 2016 09:17 PM (lidp8)

694 >>>Ace, re IF, it really works, esp. in conjunction with LCHF. Read "Always Hungry." The author proves we need to start eating fat again. In a hurry. We all got fat when the Dept. of Ag started pushing pasta (the greens hate cows and all of the supposed "resources" they use -- plus, they flatulate) and started demonizing beef.

If you haven't heard of "Bulletproof Coffee" or "butter coffee," look it up. It's da bomb. Don't worry about buying "organic, fair-trade coffee" to make it. That's for libtard

...

yeah i'm all over that. I've got butter in my coffee and apple cider vinegar in my water.

i eat half a can of macadamia nuts for fat.

i'm down with the high fat thing.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:17 PM (dciA+)

695 Dashiell Hammett got a lot of rereading this weekend on breaks in yardwork. I can always go back and read the Continental Op short stories, and I had reread the Glass Key a couple weeks ago, so I tore through the Thin Man and the Maltese Falcon. So much in there in terms of subtext, slang, fucking with his publisher, etc

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 07, 2016 09:17 PM (+b2T3)

696 >>.E-reader? You can increase the font size for easier reading. Of course you have to turn pages like crazy.

yeah that's what I do

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:17 PM (dciA+)

697 Speaking of old Eastwood films, remember Coogan's Bluff? Always liked that one.

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I saw it when I was about 14. In one scene a stripper who appeared nude comes floating down on a wire or something and I thought I could see her holy of holies. Now, that's entertainment.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 07, 2016 09:18 PM (Nwg0u)

698 I guess I'll stay down here for now.

I'm reading a S King book right now, Finders Keepers. Intriguing first few pages.

He doesn't beat around the bush you are just right in the story from line 1.

Posted by: eleven at June 07, 2016 09:20 PM (qUNWi)

699 Books and reading: Possibly the best fiction ever -- Patrick O'Brien's Master and Commander series. The author's invented characters and adventures take place in a world informed by deep research in the British Admiralty archives. Popular with historians and writers, they are set in the 18th century British Navy, The lead characters are a young sea captain and his naturalist friend who sails with him as ship's surgeon largely so he can explore the plants and animals of the far islands they touch so he can present them at the Royal Society. Napoleonic war, Exploration, Australia and transported prisoners, the Revolution, and marvelous character studies.Those who have bought the whole series read them over and over, one of the few books that you can read over and over and make new discoveries each time. I've lost track, but I must be up to 15 times at least. If you have read those, read them again, or contact me, and I'll offer more suggestions.

Posted by: The Elephant's Child at June 07, 2016 09:23 PM (T5zH7)

700 @312

Can't cheat with Wolfe, either. Can only read him when I'm really in the mood or else it starts to feel like I'm studying. Miss a sentence and you might miss the one remark that removes half the book's question marks.

Posted by: Cameron at June 07, 2016 09:23 PM (6aVBb)

701 626

" Harlan Ellison, a very angry and neurotic teenager. He's like if Holden Caufield wrote books."

I like his non-fiction better than his fiction.

Look up The Glass Teat, a few hundred collected columns written in '69-'72 for the L.A.Free Press, about television at the time.


Posted by: Something Guy at June 07, 2016 09:24 PM (GyTPW)

702 I'm staying in here 'til the ONT. Brutal threads today.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 07, 2016 09:26 PM (D0J8L)

703 Final recommendation: "Drood," by Dan Simmons. Creepy tale about Dickens told from the perspective of a drug-addicted Wilkie Collins. No heroes in this one - just dread and weirdness and ugly people being ugly.

Posted by: Cameron at June 07, 2016 09:29 PM (6aVBb)

704 The best opening five chapters I've ever read in a book is Armor by John Steakley. I'm not even a SciFi fan.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 07, 2016 09:29 PM (MNgU2)

705 I started reading Dr Fung's blog.

So what exactly is fasting?

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 09:30 PM (7lVbc)

706 a great pulp mystery thriller actioner I always recommend is "The List of Seven" by Mark Frost, which postulates that Dr. Arthur Conan Doyle (and he was a doctor) meets the man who will be the inspiration for Sherlock Holmes, a British agent named Jack Sparks, and they run around London solving murders and dodging attacks by strange zombie-like humanoids with sewn-closed mouths

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:31 PM (dciA+)

707 the book had a crap ending but many do but it had a great villain. A really depraved villain. A villain where you go, "Holy shit, what the fuck is wrong with this guy."

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:32 PM (dciA+)

708 The Gap Series - Stephen R. Donaldson
The Uplift Trilogy - David Brin
Anything by CM Kornbluth
The Hyperion Cantos Series - Dan Simmons
The Expendable Series (Expendable, Vigilant, Hunted, Ascending, Radiant) - James Alan Gardner
The Demolished Man, The Stars My Destination - Alfred Bester
Stars in My Pockets Like Grains of Sand - Samuel R. Delaney
Pandora's Star, Judas Unchained - Peter F. Hamilton

Other authors worth reading - Jack McDevitt, Lois McMasters Bujold, Alistair Reynolds, Ian M. Banks, Tricia Sullivan.

Of course, Gardner Dozois' annual The Year's Best Science Fiction is a must read. I've been through the other 32. Waiting for 33rd edition on July 5.

Posted by: Oscilatting Fan at June 07, 2016 09:34 PM (c5BqC)

709 Lost Fleet Series by Jack Campbell. Military SciFi, huge space battles, where relativity and time dilation has an effect on how the battles are fought.

Two spin-off series, one based on aliens (bloodcurdling mooo!) and the opponents empire falling apart and trying to build a better system.

Posted by: AFlyingSQRL at June 07, 2016 09:34 PM (XrahF)

710 >>>I started reading Dr Fung's blog.

So what exactly is fasting?

...

three types:

Daily: go 16 hours with no food, only eat during an 8 hour window. For example, you could eat 11 am to 7pm. Then no food. No calories, no snacking, no juice, nothing with sugar.

People routinely collapse the feeding window to 6 or even 4 hours but that's not necessary. it just works faster.

Alternate day: Eat normally one day, then fast the next day -- really a semi-fast, because you can have 600 calories that day.

Then eat normally, ,then fast, etc.

5/2: Fast for two days straight (again permitting yourself 600 calories each day) then eat normally the other five. The two fasting days should be done consecutively.

Variations include doing the daily fast but then adding in a 24 hour fast once a week, etc.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:35 PM (dciA+)

711 Delany is in my "Marion Zimmer Bradley" file, of authors I just can't read anymore.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 07, 2016 09:35 PM (6FqZa)

712 >>>642 Oh, and I admit I have been nostalgic lately and read my way through Beverly Cleary's Ramona series. I think I may have to do Judy Blume's Fudge series too, just for the heck of it.

never read them but i remember seeing ramona the pest. wasn't she upsidedown on the cover?

i had my aunt's nancy drew series that i dug.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 07, 2016 09:37 PM (ceWrl)

713 Grand Central Arena and it's sequel Spheres of Influence by Ryk E. Spoor.

These two books are fresh "sense of wonder" SF. If you were raised on Doc E.E. Smith's Skylark and Lensman series, you are home again. Very good world creation, with enough in-jokes, shoutouts and references to thrill the heart of a space opera reader.

It's a tad of a throwback to John W. Campbell with the plucky Terrans verses, well, everyone in the Universe, at first.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2016 09:38 PM (u82oZ)

714 the basic point of fasting is to reduce your insulin to very low levels.

in most cases of overweight or diabetes 2, people are hyperinsulistic -- they produce too much insulin in reaction to food, which immediately shunts glucose into fat cells.

Either that or they have insulin resistance, where key organs are not affected by regular doses of insulin, and the body must produce more insulin to get (say) the liver to accept fat.

Or they have both.

The point of fasting is to begin dropping your body to low insulin for long periods so that it can begin to adjust itself back to a more normal level of insulin production and/or insulin resistance can be broken.

this cannot happen when you are constantly eating and keeping your insulin high during all waking hours. You need to start creating gaps in your waking day when your body is at very low insulin.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:39 PM (dciA+)

715 Where is a good place to start with Warhammer 40k books?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 07, 2016 09:40 PM (6FqZa)

716 Oh...Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear.

I liked it. Very haunting. About a colony ship en route to a new world.

Posted by: eleven at June 07, 2016 09:41 PM (qUNWi)

717 given that you spend 6, 7, or 8 hours sleeping, those are obviously easy hours to fast during.

The trick then is just to add four hours before going to sleep with no food (nothing -- no sugar; water is fine, obviously), and four hours in the morning before breaking fast.

that should add up to 16 hours or so, where your body has a low level of insulin.

when the body experiences a low level of insulin, organs (like the liver or brain) which have become resistant to insulin (tolerant to it, like an alcoholic becomes tolerant to alcohol) begin losing that resistance and becoming more like the organs of thin people.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:41 PM (dciA+)

718 For a political SF book, with a great system in use by an alien species, try The Color of Distance by Amy Thomson.

Some mild environmentalism can be ignored.

And for fun, Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. Great world building.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2016 09:43 PM (u82oZ)

719 apparently insulin is antagonistic to growth hormone, and growth hormone is relased in the first few hours at night, so if you are low insulin when you go to sleep, you will get the most release of growth hormone (which is good for anyone -- it builds bone and muscle).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:44 PM (dciA+)

720 Thanks, ace. I found the info at dietdoctor.com, and bookmarked it.

Really, the biggest problem I've had with staying low-carb is affording healthier foods. Now that CW Jr. is away for the summer (and maybe longer), it will be a lot easier for me to stay on track and avoid temptation, since he won't be bringing all the "bad" food into the house.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread -- Be Caller #9 To Win Bupkis! at June 07, 2016 09:45 PM (rJUlF)

721 >>>Really, the biggest problem I've had with staying low-carb is affording healthier foods.

eggs are cheap and for me, personally, as soon as I eat them I go ketogenic. I don't know what it is about eggs.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:46 PM (dciA+)

722 btw, if you're on low-carb, or even if you're not, ask your butcher about bacon beef: They grind up bacon right into ground beef for hamburgers.

It will change your brain, man.

I know you've had bacon on burgers. but this is different. the meat tends to trap more of that sweet, sweet bacon fat inside.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:53 PM (dciA+)

723 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:35 PM (dciA+)

Thanks!

Not eating - does that mean no coffee with half&half?

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 09:54 PM (7lVbc)

724 >>>Not eating - does that mean no coffee with half&half?

ummmm... you can get away with a little but for best results keep the half and half content low, drink coffee blacker than usual, to make sure you don't put so many calories into your system you break fast.

Another thing people do is put unsalted grass fed butter into their coffee instead of cream. The fat doesn't kick you out of fasting. It also gives you boost (they say) in burning fat.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:56 PM (dciA+)

725 >>>
Not eating - does that mean no coffee with half&half?

i was using half and half for a while and I was putting in too much and breaking my damn fast.

I'm doing butter coffee now (with cinamon for extra kick -- cinammon's a stimulant).

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:57 PM (dciA+)

726 I'm gonna try that - no food 4 hours before bed and after waking.
But I gotta have coffee when I wake up.
I might get by with black if necessary but I'd prefer half & half in it.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 09:57 PM (7lVbc)

727 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:56 PM (dciA+)

I use light cream (when I can find it) instead of half and half. It's about 25% fewer calories, and just as good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 09:58 PM (Zu3d9)

728 >>>I'm gonna try that - no food 4 hours before bed and after waking.
But I gotta have coffee when I wake up.
I might get by with black if necessary but I'd prefer half & half in it.

try it with butter, seriously. It's now a major thing. people aren't doing it because it tastes bad.

(And remember butter is just churned fat from cream)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:58 PM (dciA+)

729 >>>I'm gonna try that - no food 4 hours before bed and after waking.
But I gotta have coffee when I wake up.
I might get by with black if necessary but I'd prefer half & half in it.

sounds bad. the lighter = the worse, usually. Fat doesn't break a fast, but lighter stuff (more carbs, less fat) does.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:59 PM (dciA+)

730 >Really, the biggest problem I've had with staying low-carb is affording healthier foods.

eggs are cheap and for me, personally, as soon as I eat them I go ketogenic. I don't know what it is about eggs.
Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 09:46 PM (dciA+)

Ketogenic? If you mean you get gas then I am with you.

Posted by: StrawMan at June 07, 2016 09:59 PM (lidp8)

731 a good butter for coffee is Kerrygold, an irish grass fed butter.

they have unsalted, obviously. (The silver wrapper.)

using butter for coffee has the advantage that butter keeps a lot longer and you don't have to keep running out to 7-eleven for creamer.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:00 PM (dciA+)

732 Butter in coffee ... maybe I'll just take it black

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:00 PM (7lVbc)

733 >>>732 Butter in coffee ... maybe I'll just take it black

don't be a h8r

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:01 PM (dciA+)

734 butter is just churned cream.

come on, don't be a fag

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:01 PM (dciA+)

735 if you scan upthread you'll see artisinal ette and others telling me to put butter in my coffee (but i already do)

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:02 PM (dciA+)

736 You should be a MAN and put butter in your coffee!!

Posted by: Don Corleone, pissed off about these faegellas who won't put butter in their coffee at June 07, 2016 10:02 PM (dciA+)

737 Fine I'll try the damn butter but if I hate it I'm telling everyone you lied to me about it tasting good.

Posted by: @votermom at June 07, 2016 10:03 PM (7lVbc)

738 >>>737 Fine I'll try the damn butter but if I hate it I'm telling everyone you lied to me about it tasting good.

i never said it tasted good

i just said it's something you should do

no seriously, it's fine. it tastes like cream. except... well, more buttery. A little bit oily at the top.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:04 PM (dciA+)

739 Ace: On intermittent fasting. Only eat at dinner during the week. I've gone from size 50 to 44 and have lost over 20 pounds so far. It's slowing down, so I need to exercise if I want to keep losing a pound a week.

No measuring food, no eating special food that I get sick of. The ultimate lazy person's diet, if you can stand the discomfort for the first week or two. Great glucose numbers.

Posted by: theCork at June 07, 2016 10:04 PM (/NUys)

740 look in two days you won't think anything of it

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:04 PM (dciA+)

741 Hubby and I went on the HFLC ketogenic diet. We both wanted to lose weight and feel better. I also have diabetes and thought it would help control insulin, and It did. I'm way down on Lantus (I'm Type 1 diabetic and insulin is crucial. I take much less regular insulin also. After 3 weeks we stopped...not entirely but we are not as strict. At 20-30 carbs a day we were weak, no energy and I had terrible brain fog which I cannot have in my profession. I increased my carbs to 60/day and I feel great.
I never did butter in my coffee but did use heavy cream and cream with eggs in AM and bacon...lots of bacon. Lost 11 lbs in 3 weeks and happy.

Posted by: bossybarb at June 07, 2016 10:04 PM (7czoZ)

742 Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:00 PM (dciA+)

Doesn't the US Navy have a tradition of a little salt in the coffee?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 07, 2016 10:05 PM (Zu3d9)

743 The Gap series by Donaldson was the last straw for me as far as reading him. I like his stories usually and they usually feel innovative, but he just makes some disgusting characters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 10:05 PM (3ZoRf)

744 Wasn't butter in the coffee an old school thing? (I am talking pre- 20th century.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 10:07 PM (3ZoRf)

745 There is also the book "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz, which has gotten rave reviews.

https://tinyurl.com/jlx2vn3

I have not read it, but you can probably learn a lot just from reading the Amazon reviews.


My own personal takeaway is that government nutritional "science" over the last 40 years resembles nothing so much as a Lysenko cult.

Posted by: rickl at June 07, 2016 10:07 PM (sdi6R)

746 what's the diff between grass fed butter and just butter? I get the salt vs non-salt, but not the other.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 10:08 PM (R+30W)

747 @746 the price

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 10:10 PM (7lVbc)

748 746 what's the diff between grass fed butter and just butter? I get the salt vs non-salt, but not the other.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 10:08 PM (R+30W)

According to the online reading box, grass fed butter is loaded with vitamin K-2.

Isn't most butter made from cows who graze? Or do most milk cows get fed grain?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 10:12 PM (3ZoRf)

749 Definitely the Dresden Files. Butcher's other series, The Codex Alera, is also well worth reading. If you enjoy fantasy and don't mind the style of European authors, the Night Watch series by Sergei Lukyanenko and The Witcher stories by Andrzej Sapkowski are good. I enjoy all of Umberto Eco's stuff, although once he gets going on a list of... well, anything, it's hard to stop him.

Posted by: menoichius at June 07, 2016 10:12 PM (OJ6NX)

750 Have been reading a bunch of Honor Harrington books lately, good stuff. Taking a break from that to read the third book in The Passage Trilogy.

Posted by: Croaker at June 07, 2016 10:12 PM (GqwOw)

751 I did the "5:2 Diet" last year. It is a form of IF that has been really big in the UK since 2013ish and the guy (Mosley) who popularized it has a BBC documentary about the health benefits (goes beyond just weight loss) you can find online.

You eat as usual 5 days per week and on 2 non-consecutive days (most choose Mon/Thu to leave weekends free) men limit intake to 600 calories, 500 for women.

Much easier for me than watching what I eat 7 days per week. I lost 30 pounds and have kept it off (added light weight training too) and I'm in my 40s. Worked really well for the spouse too.

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 07, 2016 10:16 PM (lR1ZJ)

752 >>>746 what's the diff between grass fed butter and just butter? I get the salt vs non-salt, but not the other.


i don't know, to be honest. but it's a fairly small difference in price per cup. It's not like you're putting in huge amounts of butter. just like a teaspoon or two.

the vitamin k2 thing sounds good but I dunno.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:16 PM (dciA+)

753 >>>Much easier for me than watching what I eat 7 days per week. I lost 30 pounds and have kept it off (added light weight training too) and I'm in my 40s. Worked really well for the spouse too.

i really want to try that but I'm a little afraid that day 2 of the fast is going to be really unpleasant. No?

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:17 PM (dciA+)

754 Snorkel so what would you eat on a fast day for 500 or 600 calories?

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 10:17 PM (7lVbc)

755 day one of the fast i can do easy.

i'm very worried about day 2.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:18 PM (dciA+)

756 >>>Snorkel so what would you eat on a fast day for 500 or 600 calories?

guy i read said you could eat two 6-packs of chicken mcnuggets (250 per box, plus a bit for sauce I guess).

his theory is that Anything Goes on fast days, for those 600 calories and that carbs are okay for the fast days.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:20 PM (dciA+)

757 Doesn't the US Navy have a tradition of a little salt in the coffee?

-
They have a tradition of rum, sodomy, and the lash but in Japan their down to sodomy and the lash.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at June 07, 2016 10:21 PM (Nwg0u)

758 Snorkel said non consecutive though, like Moanday & Thirstday, so that's easier right?

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 10:21 PM (7lVbc)

759 In light of the 100th anniversary of WWI, I have been reading Iron Kingdom: The Rise and Downfall of Prussia 1600-1947 by Christopher Clark. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Mary at June 07, 2016 10:21 PM (2ly7u)

760 >>>Snorkel said non consecutive though, like Moanday & Thirstday, so that's easier right?

not the way i heard it. the way i heard it, you do the two fast days back to back on the 5:2 plan.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:22 PM (dciA+)

761 Read (better yet listen to audiobooks) by Gary Taubes. Short version is "Why We Get Fat", Long version is "Good Calories, Bad Calories."

Listen to he tshort version 1st, then the long version. It is revelatory to hear real data presented to you.

Extend what you hear to what we are told about "Climate Change."

Posted by: Griff at June 07, 2016 10:23 PM (gFFa5)

762 Ace, I wasn't very strict on watching calories honestly. I'd try to limit myself to one "healthy" but filling meal on the two "fast" days -- often ended up being a big Kale Caesar salad with hazelnuts and maybe a small roasted chicken breast or some sardines.

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 07, 2016 10:23 PM (lR1ZJ)

763 Back to back like Weekneesday and Thirstday

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 10:24 PM (7lVbc)

764 griff,

I've made that point -- a major repudiation of 50 years of government science has happened, but the media doesn't want to talk about it, because that might raise questions about OTHER 'science is settled" government science.

it really is a massive conspiracy theory, come to life.

They got EVERYTHING WRONG, they had the data proving they were wrong, and they just kept pushing the same lie!

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:24 PM (dciA+)

765 If you watch the documentary Mosley says the two consecutive days were too difficult for him to adhere to, so he splits them up. Some people do go for consequence days but if you read up on it you'll find most people do non-consecutive days.

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 07, 2016 10:26 PM (lR1ZJ)

766 2 days in a row sounds like advanced fasting.
Jeeze how did that kid in Japan survive for 6 days with just water?

Posted by: Votermom's phone at June 07, 2016 10:26 PM (7lVbc)

767 it really is amazing -- there was never any data to support the fat makes you fat (or fat causes heart attacks) hypothesis, as soon as science was actually done it was immediately disproven, over and over and over again, and government "science" just kept claiming that fat gives you heart attacks.

No -- sugar gives you heart attacks, which is now established.

But Big Sugar didn't like that finding. So fat was the villain.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:28 PM (dciA+)

768 As for books, check out The Fionavar Tapestry trilogy by Guy Gavriel Kay, if you haven't yet. Pretty engaging.

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 07, 2016 10:28 PM (lR1ZJ)

769 >>>If you watch the documentary Mosley says the two consecutive days were too difficult for him to adhere to, so he splits them up. Some people do go for consequence days but if you read up on it you'll find most people do non-consecutive days.

eh, okay. that sounds kinda easy then. I do 24 hour real fasts sometimes, shouldn't be hard to do partial ones with 600 calories.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:29 PM (dciA+)

770 659 >>>8 Are there any Type 2 diabetics here doing IF?

I am, along with LCHF diet. I commented above somewhere about some pretty immediate and dramatic success/changes.

Ace, I'm too lazy to scroll up, but are you blending your butter/coco oil/mct oil (if using it) in the blender because it's amazing.

Posted by: Bee at June 07, 2016 10:29 PM (B1Fvs)

771 >>>Ace, I'm too lazy to scroll up, but are you blending your butter/coco oil/mct oil (if using it) in the blender because it's amazing.

i've tried that but it seems like too much effort.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:30 PM (dciA+)

772 The BBC documentary about the 5:2 Diet is called "Eat, Fast & Live Longer." It's such a simple concept that you don't need to buy the books or even to watch the documentary, though it's online for free and it's interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihhj_VSKiTs

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 07, 2016 10:39 PM (lR1ZJ)

773 i'll check that out, i want to add some 5:2 into my daily stuff.

Posted by: ace at June 07, 2016 10:43 PM (dciA+)

774 I am reading "Anathem" by Stephenson and enjoying it; he creates a richly complex fantasy world. I haven't read "Snow Crash", but it's on my list.

I was following "Game of Thrones" until the Red Wedding, and that totally turned me off, as I hate getting to like characters and then having them randomly be killed.

Posted by: norrin radd at June 07, 2016 10:43 PM (eTVe0)

775 Something Guy,

I =might= try that. I just found his introductions really off-putting in "Shatterday". I also read a John W. Campbell story recently that was really awful. (And I still love Campbell, always will, but perhaps more as an editor.)

I dunno. Grew up on this stuff.

(I also grew up on intermittent fasting and reasonably low carbs, but that's working out better now.)

Posted by: moviegique at June 07, 2016 10:44 PM (CcUfv)

776 I'll read GoT when Martin (snarfle) finishes it.

Posted by: moviegique at June 07, 2016 10:45 PM (CcUfv)

777 Sue Grafton's alphabet series isn't bad. I'd call them good airplane books. No deep thinking required.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 07, 2016 10:46 PM (R+30W)

778 Haven't read the 775 comments, but I have read everything by Elmore Leonard and Neal Stephenson, quite a few of them more than once.

Posted by: TheThinMan at June 07, 2016 10:49 PM (lc1Qv)

779 1. Sci-fi recommendation: "A Rose for Ecclesiastes".
2. Movie recommendation: Imitation of Life
3. "A calorie is a calorie". Not unless you have a 500 F furnace in your gut. Termites can gain weight on sawdust and horses can gain weight on alfalfa hay. You cannot.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at June 07, 2016 10:50 PM (IbUUZ)

780 Non fiction I lean toward autobiographies vs bio's and I really like W. S. Churchills stuff....

Posted by: TheThinMan at June 07, 2016 10:52 PM (lc1Qv)

781 A book ya'll should read...
Hillary the Other Women.

I'm almost done, it's by Dolly Kyle, Bill's first love if you can believe her.

It really needed some editing but her personal accounts are revealing.

There's no way this crook should be allowed into the WH.

Posted by: Farmer at June 07, 2016 10:54 PM (o/90i)

782 Oh, Lord, I've finally read to the bottom of this thing.

Someone above complained that no one ever talked about Patrick Rothfuss's book, "The Slow Regard for Silent Things." It's his in-between book, 2.5 out of 3. And it's brilliant. I know it's a fantasy, but it's a spot-on description of someone with a serious anxiety disorder, and written sooo beautifully. He plays with language, with rhyming and other verbal quirks that reflect the current mood of the protagonist. It shows how some people have to fight the Hero Fight just to get anything at all done, event things that seem quite inconsequential on the outside. Gives a great sense of dignity to a character that would otherwise be a funny-but-crazy stock character in the series.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at June 07, 2016 10:56 PM (yjhOG)

783 Also, reading "Two Years Eight Months and Twenty-Eight Days," by Salman Rusdi. It's a fantasia involving djinni, and the characters seem autobiographical. Strange to read a fantasy involving a character being punished for longing for freedom of speech, whose last name is Rusd (and thus part of the family Rusdi), knowing the rough outlines of the author's biography.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at June 07, 2016 11:05 PM (yjhOG)

784 Zombie, a lot of the late Gernsback and early Campbell books had that view of the solar system, it goes along with the ER Bourroghs universe which leaned on even earlier sources' of the planets forming and senescing as they get older in order of the sun cooling down.

George O Smith wrote in that universe, but most of his stuff now readily available is in the Venus Equilateral collection (which is a MUST for any aspiring ham operator with an urge to tinker)

Other authors took the tidally locked Mercury and put it in other planetary systems in the 60's

Another writer who dabbled in that type of planetary system was Leigh Brackett, but she later wrote the Faded Sun series, with Eric John Stark on the dying planet Skaith in another system. First book The Ginger Star

I am sure Henry Kutner also wrote in that too, but I can't think of any stories.

I love old pulp.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 07, 2016 11:05 PM (ry34m)

785 "A Rose for Ecclesiastes"

Is just a short story. In 1963 it was more than it is now. Didn't then and still don't get the attempted suicide at the end. The protagonist had to suicide instead of the Martian Race?

Contrast. 1972 The Gods Themselves is still something on the alien side. 3 sexes in a way that tells a human story. Moon base and human side is a little dated.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 11:05 PM (CRXed)

786 Again, sry for the delay. Been a busy day.

The Dyson Sphere's gravity problem. I should have explained.

Assume a star and the surrounding sphere. In this system there are two sources of significant gravity. The star and the sphere.

Everyone gets the way the star works.

However, standing on the inside of a sphere, which would have to be pretty uniform to be stable, there is net zero gravity.

Gravity is a function mass and distance. All points of mass exert a gravitation pull on all other points of mass.
Standing inside the sphere, the majority of the pull would be under your feet. However.. the rest sphere also contains mass, and is also pulling, regardless of distance.

The sum of that pull from the rest of the sphere, from the point adjacent to you, to the point opposite you in the sphere, equals the pull of the spot you are standing on.
Net gravitational pull on any point on a sphere then is zero.

Thus, you would float. Briefly.. until the only other source of gravity, the star, attracted you.

One person mentioned spinning it. Waste of space, as a sphere spinning would have no gravity at the poles.
So a sphere would be a waste of material.

Another person said artificial gravity might be invented by then. Okay.. maybe. but that does not change the problem. artificial or not, the rest of the sphere would still pull, and it all adds up, to null out the pull on the spot where you are standing.

Check out Newtons law of Universal Gravity, and the shell theorem.

So Niven "built" a ring.

I misread Ace's suggested about other rings until you had something sphere like. Each ring a little off from the other. Might work, but risky. They would have to be perfectly stable or you would risk a catastrophic collision.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at June 07, 2016 11:11 PM (Gl74b)

787 "it really is a massive conspiracy theory, come to life."

Conflicts of interest. Conspiracy requires explicit coordination. Conflicts of interest don't. Usually even the dumbest know what their livelihood entails.

Union workers are all for Unions till they retire and get unionized medical facilities.

Posted by: Ok at June 07, 2016 11:13 PM (CRXed)

788 Just finished The Obesity Code. (discovered thanks to this site.) Bit early to tell, however, applying the concept of controlling insulin response by eating less often seems to be helping. ...No snacks, and I don't have anything except herbal tea or coffee (no sweetener) from supper at 7 PM until I have lunch at 2PM the next day. Mostly feeling good as long as I stay low carb as well. Working towards incorporating a true 24 hour fast in the future.

Posted by: chas at June 07, 2016 11:15 PM (mRpP+)

789 @ace,

Go get a battery-powered milk frother. Seriously, I picked one up on Amazon for $6. It works the same as blending the fatty coffee in that it stirs it so vigorously it emulsifies the oil into the liquid. Comes out frothy and creamy like a latte. I'm a fan.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at June 07, 2016 11:31 PM (KkVB6)

790 787 "'it really is a massive conspiracy theory, come to life.'"


"Conflicts of interest. Conspiracy requires explicit coordination. Conflicts of interest don't."

If the head of a 1000-outlet news organization tells all its stations and papers not to cover it so people won't know how many died following their advice, is that conflict of interest or explicit co-ordination?


Posted by: Something Guy at June 07, 2016 11:38 PM (GyTPW)

791 For fantasy writing, I recommend the first two novels in the "Gormenghast" trilogy by Mervyn Peake, who had fabulous descriptive powers. The third book was not as good.

Posted by: norrin radd at June 07, 2016 11:45 PM (eTVe0)

792 SciFi books in no particular order:

Vernor Vinge: "True Names" "The Peace War" "Marooned in Real Time"
Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle: "The Mote In God's Eye" "Footfall" "Oath of Fealty"
Larry Niven: "Dream Park" "The Integral Trees" "Legacy of Heorot" "A Gift From Earth"
Larry Niven & David Gerrold: : "The Flying Sorcerers"
James S.A. Corey: "Leviathan Wakes" (The Expanse series)
Peter F. Hamilton: "Pandora's Star"
Philip Jose Farmer: "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" (Riverworld series)
Fred Saberhagen: "Empire of the East"
Ernest Cline: "Ready Player One"
Fred Pohl: "Gateway"
Frank Herbert: "Dune"
Orson Scott Card: "Ender's Game"
Harlan Ellison (editor): "Dangerous Visions"

Posted by: trapeze at June 08, 2016 12:55 AM (2z05k)

793 Really, anything by Niven or Vernor Vinge.

And for the absolute best collection of SF short stories you will ever find:

"The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 1"
"The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 2A"
"The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 2B"
"The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 3"
"The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 4"

Hands down, the best collection ever. If you haven't read this your SF experience is not complete.

Posted by: trapeze at June 08, 2016 01:00 AM (2z05k)

794 Forgot to mention just about everything written by Philip K. Dick. So many of his titles have been made into movies such as Bladerunner, Total Recall, Minority Report, A Scanner Darkly, The Man in the High Castle.

Also selected works of Theodore Sturgeon are worth a look.

No point in mentioning Heinlen as so many others already have done so.

Most of H. Beam Piper's stuff is well worth the time.

I also like a lot of James Hogan's material.

Posted by: trapeze at June 08, 2016 01:45 AM (2z05k)

795 Here are two interesting books I recently finished. A bit obscure but entertaining as hell.

Windswept: book 1. Adam Rakunas. Unions in outer space. Involution Ocean. Bruce Sterling. Whalers on a planet where the oceans are made of dust.

And a short story from years ago that you can find for free on Amazon.

After a few words. Randall Garrett

Enjoy

Posted by: Dave c at June 08, 2016 09:13 AM (3za3j)

796 641 . . . pg 157. God Stalk. Atheneum edition 1982
*
*
Read it back when it was new. A very good fantasy novel with almost no sword-and-sorcery, as I recall; and the author's plotting and storytelling flows, each scene right into the next one, like Rex Stout and his Nero Wolfe mysteries.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 08, 2016 09:33 AM (txdEq)

797 Okay, for all you fantasy readers out there, here's a series you'll love but have probably never heard of. (I say this wearing a porkpie hat and giant black glasses, ensuring you know I'm hipster enough to say the above.) Barry Hughart's series, The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox. Series starts with "Bridge of Birds." It's delightful, set in an ancient China that never was, with a wonderful old wise man who constantly says things like, "Ah, to be 90 again!" as he bemoans his current inability to please the ladies, and so lives vicariously through Number Ten Ox. It's surprising, well written, and thoroughly enjoyable.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at June 08, 2016 10:27 AM (yjhOG)

798 A great historical fiction set in Egypt is, "The Egyptian," by Mika Waltari. If you like engrossing stories it's really a great one and weaves in many accurate historical aspects of ancient Egypt, Babylon and Crete. It's one of my all-time favorite books.

Posted by: Snorkel Clogger at June 08, 2016 11:50 AM (lR1ZJ)

799 The first two books of epic fantasy he has written I
liked a lot- The Stormlight Archive books. I am not sure how he is
going to get to ten books, but the two so far are pretty fun.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 07, 2016 08:36 PM (3ZoRf)
Agreed. The Stormlight Archives, the Dresden Files, and the Kingkiller Chronicles are at the top of my "frivolous uses for time travel" list.

Posted by: the pi man at June 08, 2016 04:45 PM (4T9ZW)

800 ace wrote: "The trick then is just to add four hours before going to sleep with no food (nothing -- no sugar; water is fine, obviously)"

-- What about Diet Pepsi? Zero calories, no sugar.

Is drinking that consistent with the fasting program?

Posted by: Thos. Sutpen, Jr. at June 08, 2016 10:35 PM (df8p8)

801 I might read a bit too much. I've compiled a short list of books by different authors which I enjoyed greatly for differing reasons.

"Playing for Pizza" by John Grisham
"A Hymn Before Battle" by John Ringo
"Warp Speed" by Travis S. Taylor
"Stormfront" by Jim Butcher
"Waylander" by David Gemmel
"Caliphate" by Tom "Crazy Eyes" Kratman

Posted by: TonyFromTampa at June 09, 2016 12:35 AM (9Uvdi)

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