Trump Orders Surrogates to Step Up Attacks on Judges, and to Call Reporters Racist

I don't have any particular problem with this, but you can see our Upper Middle Class Socially Liberal coterie squealing harder and harder about this.

An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.
"We will overcome," Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. "And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is."

I have never known the media to not note a jury was "all white" or "Mostly white" when it acquitted a George Zimmerman, thus signalling that they think that white people have certain biases, preferences, agendas, and political leanings.

I do not understand why this is so forbidden to say about other races -- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

And if that's the hidden premise: I need for it to no longer be hidden. I need for those who believe this premise to state it straight-up.

This is not to say Trump is right; in fact, I'm 99.99% sure that he's not only wrong, but that he knows he's wrong, and is just flinging poop as usual because he's an animal.

But I don't understand why this particular statement sends people shrieking.

There is not a single day of my life as a white man I am not invited to #CheckMyPrivilege -- my race-based assumptions.

Do some people wish to not admit that this is entirely an anti-white and racist game therefore only whites are the proper targets of this tactic?

Meanwhile, many of us are no longer satisfied with the two word answer as to why whites should be burdened by all these rules and speech codes that no one else in America is burdened with.

"Just because" is not an answer that sounds any better from Upper Middle Class Republican mouths than from liberal mouths, and people should try coming up with better explanations, or re-examine the nonsense they're claiming.

I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

This seems to be happening with far greater speed than I imagined.

Class? It occurs to me that the difference between the jurors who are always tagged as "mostly white" when they reach a verdict the media doesn't approve of and this judge is that this judge is a member of the upper middle professional class, and a member of the politcal-governmental-managerial-media class.

The assumption here might be that while Joe Six Pack on the jury might have some race-based blind spots and racial chauvinisms, obviously, any college-educated member of the middle upper professional class will have been taught various Zen-like techniques of rising above mere ego and existence.

Thus this entire controversy could be permeated, as usual, by a certain class' Smug assumptions.

Just Go Already: I'm increasingly frantic with the GOP liberals who talk up this bullshit.

Trump did not just look at this judge for the first time and divine, "Ah-ha, he's Mexican, he must be biased against me."

Instead, he's been dealing with him for a year, and believes (probably wrongly, but who knows) the judge is biased against him. Trying to figure out why he's biased, he seizes upon the fact that he's of Mexican descent -- hardly a racist guess, given that the media itself tells us that Hispanics have a strongly disfavorable view of Trump -- something like 85% unfavorable to 10% favorable, with half of them viewing him "strongly" disfavorably.

When did stereotyping someone as "probably not a Trump fan" become a racial slur up there with thinking someone is lazy, stupid, etc.?

Trump cannot be a racist for believing what the media reports to him every single day.

Or, I guess, he can be.

The secret little rule is that you can take into account any distinctions between the races -- or the genders -- as long as you compare minorities and women favorably to men or whites. You can point out the difference between Hispanic and white attitudes -- but only if you're vaunting the need of a "wise Latina" on the court.

Were you to suggest that this "Wise Latina" might be limited of her ethnicity rather than enlightened by it, you immediately become racist.

Basically this continues to be part of the utterly indefensible style of racial politics in the country, which has been adopted by the Upper Middle Class suburban Republican coterie as a class marker -- you have always say Nice Things about all women and minorities, always, and cannot note any differences, unless it is to heap praise upon them.

Question: Can I question former MSNBC commentator Toure's objectivity, or is that now racist too, per our uniparty We Went to College, See? chattering classes?

Observation:

Everyone is focusing on the Trump double down but the lack of organization is even deadlier.

This is going to be a disaster for GOP.
— (((Drew McCoy))) (@_Drew_McCoy_) June 6, 2016

Yes, I imagine so. The brief period when Trump became marginally competitive with Hillary was probably a one-week one-off.

Trump will almost certainly lose, and badly, so I guess there's no need to defend every stupid thing that comes vomiting out of his mouth.

That said, I'm defending this because I actually believe it, not because I think I need to help Trump (who is almost certainly beyond helping).

You simply cannot defend a society in which it is so routine that it is not even remarked upon that Jake Tapper portentously declares "The jury that acquitted the police officer was white" and then turn around and scream if someone says, "Hey, you know what? Maybe Hispanics have some political biases based on their experiences and shared political interests, too."

If you can say it about a white person, you can say it about a minority.

Period.

I won't countenance any other claim, and I shouldn't fucking have to.

BTW, I don't consider this an optimal situation. Far from it. But this is the situation. And if people are going to ask me to check my privilege, then I reserve the privilege of turning right around and asking them to check their own.

Why did I think Sonya Sotomayor's "wise Latina" comment was unfortunate at the time? It cut against these ideas: pic.twitter.com/x64GTwn7Fo
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) June 6, 2016

Yes and it is inarguable which ideology has brought us to this pass, and continues to basically make the case for Women's Supremacy and various Racial Supremacy ideologies and yet turns around and acts like racial sugar wouldn't melt in their mouths.

Posted by: Ace at 04:19 PM

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1 oh boy

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 06, 2016 04:20 PM (0O7c5)

2
the two word answer as to why whites should be burdened by all these rules
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I thought it was one word: S L A V E R Y

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:21 PM (pC96u)

3 I don't have any particular problem with this, but you can see our Upper Middle Class Socially Liberal coterie squealing harder and harder about this.

That's a seminal point, Ace, that the self-appointed 'elites' experience the vapors over transgressions of their particular code of conduct, which doesn't necessarily bother the proletariat.

The only trick is to keep the 'elites' from convincing the proletariat that they.must.care.

If they can't, the 'elites' deflate like little balloons, along with their codes of conduct.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:23 PM (OkKDg)

4 the two word answer as to why whites should be burdened by all these rules
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White Privilege...

I'm still waiting for mine...

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:23 PM (O2RFr)

5 Well, if "the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can" then the journalist profession cannot be allowed to say anything. After all, as a profession they are over 90% white, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (O4NI/)

6 Arguing that America should be color blind is good.

Arguing that white people can't be judged by Mexicans is not.

Trump only brings this up because he's going to lose the lawsuit.

Don't worry folks, the media made sure to wait until he won to do this.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (UBBWX)

7
The Republican elites must also be shitting bricks. Ha! Good.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (kon7k)

8 During the "vetting" President Obama old Reverend Wright was becoming a topic. Jonathon Alter's Journolist crew decided the right and just thing to do was "pick a republican, any republican and call him racist." Away they went. The whole MSM must be nodding in approval of Trump's move, no? It is the same fucking thing.

Posted by: Mac at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (fOoQ8)

9 >>the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil

White Man's Greed...

Posted by: Barackhenaten I at June 06, 2016 04:25 PM (6kxiP)

10 I have ho big problem with what Trump said.
I think he should have played the La Razza connection more rather the the heritage of the Judge and he probably would have been better served letting his surrogates do it. But in the end what is good of the goose is good for the gander

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:25 PM (zp+j1)

11 I hope your ear feels better ace.

And for the record, I think La Raza is the Latino KKK.
It's a racist organization and we should object to judges and police chiefs who are members of it, just as we object to judges who are members of the KKK.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:25 PM (7lVbc)

12 6 You must cause quite a conundrum for amorous muslims.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2016 04:25 PM (B48dK)

13 Loose he law suit? Yeah i doubt that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:26 PM (zp+j1)

14 I was just told (on Twitter) by a representative of the professionally aggrieved class that one cannot be raciat towards one's oppressor.

That explaoms their freedom to point out supposed White racist behavior without noticing their own.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2016 04:26 PM (Zu3d9)

15 "-- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can."

I guess you didn't see the new "Roots".

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 04:26 PM (Zs4uk)

16
I do not understand why this is so forbidden to say about other races -- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

I think you answered your own question.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 04:27 PM (IqV8l)

17 Q: What's racist to a liberal?
A: Racist!

Posted by: CrustyB at June 06, 2016 04:27 PM (GvSpB)

18 Will this have any effect on the taco bowl at Trump Tower? I hear it's quite good.

Posted by: josephistan at June 06, 2016 04:27 PM (7HtZB)

19 I was just told (on Twitter) by a representative of the professionally aggrieved class that one cannot be raciat towards one's oppressor.

Calling me your 'oppressor' is racist.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:27 PM (OkKDg)

20 It looked like the judge was starting to do the usual lawfare - leak out information on a case before the case has even gone to trial. When that happens the actual evidence could be 95% exculpatory, but you wouldn't see that in the trial that would be held in the press.

So Trump attacks the judge, claiming racial bias, ethnic bias, and everyone in the punditocracy and the politicocracy loses their minds. I think it had to be done. He can now try and get the judge to recuse himself, and if that fails and the next leak happens Trump can play it down by claiming that is proof that the judge is biased.

It could be turned into such a circus that enough interlocutory appeals get filed someone will step in and declare a mistrial and "start all over". Which would only benefit Trump.

I could be wrong, but I can see the above scenario playing out - "prove you aren't biased" being turned against the Left.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (hLRSq)

21 ANYONE FOR TENNIS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2f6-U72Zk

Posted by: CREAM at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (6kxiP)

22 yeah so why is memebership in "la raza" acceptable for a federal judge? sure it is not the entirely evil "la raza" but it is a race base organization.

men are no longer allowed to have men only clubs and I am pretty sure if I joined some all german, english or wasp group it would be noted negatively.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (vb33c)

23 I'm still waiting for all the perks I'm supposed to get with My White privilege...

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (O2RFr)

24 >>> I do not understand why this is so forbidden to say about other races -- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

And if that's the hidden premise: I need for it to no longer be hidden. I need for those who believe this premise to state it straight-up.
.....

Got ya covered. Here's your new, two-word answer: White Privelege.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Universities Everywhere at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (71OEY)

25 "We will overcome," Trump said,

ISWHDT.

Posted by: josephistan at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (7HtZB)

26 Am I the only one who read "And that's the way it is" in Paul Anka's voice?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (acDMI)

27 I do not understand why this is so forbidden to say about other races -- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

Yep, pretty much. It's the curse of white privilege, don't you know.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (cgeHX)

28 Multiculturalism holds that 'All Cultures are equal, except ours, which is worse.'

It's the same for all races, except one.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:29 PM (OkKDg)

29 Spanish is the language of the oppressor.
Latinos in America will never be truly free until.they learn English.
Speak it, putas.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:29 PM (7lVbc)

30 23 You have to know the sooper secret handshake.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2016 04:29 PM (B48dK)

31 "I have ho big problem with what Trump said.
I think he should have played the La Razza connection more rather the the heritage of the Judge"

Trump is uniquely placed to get this out to the public, too. Its too bad.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (UBBWX)

32 my guess is the dali lama is with trump on this one.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (vb33c)

33 >>I was just told (on Twitter) by a representative of the professionally aggrieved class that one cannot be raciat towards one's oppressor.

How about your Emancipators?

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (6kxiP)

34 IIRC, Alberto Gonzalez wrote an article in support of Trump's challenge to the judge. It's not like Trump attacked the guy from the get-go - he's looking at the way Judge Curiel has handled the case, always siding against Trump, and wondering why that might be.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (NOIQH)

35 I was just told (on Twitter) by a representative of the professionally aggrieved class that one cannot be racist towards one's oppressor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That little gem is from Critical Theory, a by-product of the Frankfurt School.

It's Neo-Marxism and should be returned to sender.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (p2X2f)

36 The minute our society embraced the hyphenization of our citizen status (e.g. - Mexican-American, African-American, Pakistani-American, etc.) to something other than "American," then I say game-on to introducing one's national origin into the conversation. This hyphenization is played, primarily, by so-called minorities. And the issue is further exacerbated by white guilt and the willingness for minorities to beat Anglos over the head with it. Repeatedly.

With all that in mind, I fail to see how those minorities can be surprised at a little backlash.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (4SznG)

37 This guy is as bad as my grandmother! Typical White Person!

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (71OEY)

38 34 IIRC, Alberto Gonzalez wrote an article in support of Trump's challenge to the judge. It's not like Trump attacked the guy from the get-go - he's looking at the way Judge Curiel has handled the case, always siding against Trump, and wondering why that might be.

look who he donates to

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (O2RFr)

39
For the better part of a year the MSM has been reminding us of Trumps horrible disapproval numbers with Hispanics.Every Trump event is met with news footage of waving Mexican flags and burning American flags,and when Trump suggest that a Judge with Mexican heritage might be bias against him the press throws a hissy fit

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (lKyWE)

40 What if, for once, Trump isn't inventing his victimization? What if the judge really does hate him and is screwing him? Would it still be racist to point out that he;s getting a screwing because the guy hates him and wants him to lose?

I don't get this. It's very hard to look at complex litigation from the outside and see if a clever judge is being impartial. Unless you know the judge is playing it straight, you can't be sure Trump's being racist here. He may be being accurate, which is a pretty solid defense.

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (mrfTe)

41 An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.

Bloomberg lies. Trump did not "attack" the judge's Mexican ancestry. Trump didn't say the word ancestry. He stated that the judge is a Mexican and is biased against him. And, in fact, the judge is a citizen of Mexico. The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual citizenship.

I wonder why the Trump's critics love to paraphrase what he said rather then quoting him... *asks rhetorically*

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (R+30W)

42 unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil

------------

And that's really it, isn't it?

Posted by: SH at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (bGGsq)

43 I love Trump especially because he is using the media's own tactics against them. If they want to enable clown world, then who better than the biggest clown in America to show them what useless pieces of racist shit they are. Some of you fence-sitters need to get on the Trump train, and let's utterly repudiate the nonsense of the last 8 years. Trump may not be your guy, but you have to be enjoying the utter be clowning of the partisan Democrat media. If you stay home in protest, and Hillary gets elected, then you are tacitly supporting the attacks on American citizens by illegal Mexican trash. These fits of "conservative honor" are nothing but votes in the pocket of Democrat America haters.

Posted by: The Drizzle at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (Ip9P1)

44 I'm still waiting for all the perks I'm supposed to get with My White privilege...

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (O2RFr)

Allow 4-6 weeks for the delivery of your white privilege decoder ring.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (8ZskC)

45 "men are no longer allowed to have men only clubs and I am pretty sure if I joined some all german, english or wasp group it would be noted negatively."

I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (UBBWX)

46 If I were a Jew in front of a judge who was a member of the local Muslim Brotherhood, I would sure object.
Black or brown in front of the local John Bircher?
Why is this any different?
La Raza is racist. Period. De facto even, don't have to connect the dots.

Posted by: MarkY at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (+wjl1)

47 Trump is uniquely placed to get this out to the public, too. Its too bad.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (UBBWX)

you wanna explain that in English?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (zp+j1)

48 Race is only allowed to be a factor if we are weaving a liberal narrative.

Otherwise, it's racist.

Posted by: Maritime at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (0oSCj)

49 unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil

which of course by objective standards it is not. indeed likely least evil.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (vb33c)

50
I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (UBBWX)

We had this discussion the other day, or is your memory bad?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:33 PM (zp+j1)

51 "He stated that the judge is a Mexican and is biased against him. And, in fact, the judge is a citizen of Mexico. The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual citizenship."

Holy Ess... is that true?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)

52 Back in the 1990's claims against the State of Michigan were heard in the Court of Claims, Ingham County Circuit Court. There were cases by prisoners against the Dept. of Corrections and then-Gov. Engler got into a real good spat with the judge, Judge Giddings. It got so bad that the state Supreme Court had to assign the case to another judge.*

So this can work as a tactic to delay - which is all Trump really needs.

*I think it was the supreme court, but it may have been the court of appeals.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:33 PM (hLRSq)

53 "He stated that the judge is a Mexican and is biased against him. And, in fact, the judge is a citizen of Mexico. The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual citizenship."

Link?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (UBBWX)

54 50
I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (UBBWX)

We had this discussion the other day, or is your memory bad?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:33 PM (zp+j1)

what was the decision?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (vb33c)

55 >>eah so why is memebership in "la raza" acceptable for a federal judge?
sure it is not the entirely evil "la raza" but it is a race base
organization.

Except it's not just a race-based lawyer's association: it's goals are tied to furthering latinos in the legal community, which covers a wide range of things, such as giving law school scholarships to illegals, defending illegal immigrants, being activist for immigration-friendly laws (Amnesty, etc.).

Also, look at the founder of the org - he's "the godfather of latino activism" in the US, and founded all sorts of immigration-friendly organizations including MALDEF (very active in immigration legislation for decades).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (NOIQH)

56 I always thought,

LaRaza is the Mexican version of the Klu Klux Klan.

The judge is a member of a LaRaza lawyer's organization.

IOW Their version of the good ole boy Democrat Southern Klan that was proud to lynch their enemies and let their friends go free.

Posted by: rd at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (v0YLX)

57 If I ever have to go to trial, I want a caucasian Judge. One with a "The Race" sticker in English on the bumper of his Ford F-150 that he drives to work.

And if anybody is upset by that, then I want the wise Latina removed from the Supreme Court due to her bias as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (ptqRm)

58 This is going to be a very clear cut election...

You can either vote for a PC, Social Justice Warrior driven society or a common sense, free speech society.

Take your pick.

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (Zs4uk)

59 Race is only allowed to be a factor if we are weaving a liberal narrative.

Otherwise, it's racist.

Race is their tool to push onward toward Communism. It's a prime component of the Frankfort School's plan against Western Civilization.

They will only allow it to serve them, no one else.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (OkKDg)

60 Trump U is no more a scam than any other educational program...that the left likes.

Posted by: Oschisms at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (YG7z6)

61 Just buying more food and ammo and making sure my friends are doing the same.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (KtcMg)

62 La Raza is racist. Period. De facto even, don't have to connect the dots.

Posted by: MarkY

/pedant
Not necessarily 'racist,' but definitely supremacist.
/pedant

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (p2X2f)

63
What other "Latino issues"are there other than immigration and civil rights violation lawsuits?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (lKyWE)

64 what was the decision?
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:34 PM (vb33c)

The Trolls lost

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (zp+j1)

65 And, in fact, the judge is a citizen of Mexico. The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual citizenship.

I wonder why the Trump's critics love to paraphrase what he said rather then quoting him... *asks rhetorically*

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

When did just saying someone is "a Mexican" became racist?

If Trump said someone "British" would it also be considered racist?

Mexico is a country, and people from there are called Mexicans.

Considering Trump's main platform is a dispute with Mexico, it's not crazy that it's being brought up.

I'm not one to push this tactic, but maybe it does need to be aired out.

Posted by: Maritime at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (0oSCj)

66 Maybe asked & answered already, but:
Has The Combover even once brought up this judge's links to LA Raza? That would be the FIRST thing to mention, no?
Isn't that the big offense here?

Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (hp+aF)

67
I could be wrong, but I can see the above scenario playing out - "prove you aren't biased" being turned against the Left. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (hLRSq)
======

I wuz robbed! Dey wuz against me!

Said every single losing litigant since the beginning of time.

There are other TrumpU class actions going on as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (MIKMs)

68 >>>I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

for the most part, it's already happened, or is happening.
they may not be ready to admit it, but their actions speak for themselves.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (ceWrl)

69 La Raza means The Race in mexican.
And that beaner judge is probably an anchor baby anyway.

Posted by: Trump Surrogate at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (QM5S2)

70 So acting the way Liberals act is some sort of "Win" for conservatism? Trump could have made his point about the Judge's political affiliations without mentioning his nationality/ethnicity, but he didn't. He's not a racist, he's just not a thinker, either. I can berate Obama for 8 years, and have, without ever mentioning his race, Donald doesn't have that in him. And I think he has a very low opinion of many of his own supporters and treats them as if they're the reactionary xenophobes that the Left portrays them as.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (2cS/G)

71 Well, I have to give Trump credit for not backing down... However I wish He would think a bit before He speaks....

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (O2RFr)

72 Still waiting for my white privilege check to arrive in the mail. Any day now...

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (0mRoj)

73 51 "He stated that the judge is a Mexican and is biased against him. And, in fact, the judge is a citizen of Mexico. The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual citizenship."

Holy Ess... is that true?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)

Lots of people have dual citizenship. Some people renounced theirs

Posted by: Not Ted Cruz at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (v0YLX)

74 It's time to move to all out open warfare.

Violent actions and vulgar and ugly rhetoric are the only way out of the predicament we find ourselves in.

The time for playing nice and hoping the statist will play nice has passed.

You aren't getting your country back no matter how well reasoned your arguments are or how nicely we ask.

We live in a post constitutional post law thugocracy. Where the constitutions is whatever 4 or 5 clowns in black say it means and laws are mearly enabling acts for a rouge executive.

War is coming, prepare.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (8tCtd)

75 >> The judge is also a citizen of the US. He holds dual
>> citizenship."

Yeah, need link/evidence.

I'm a reluctant Trump voter, but if this is in fact the case that would put me well on the Donald's side on this one.

Posted by: JEM at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (o+SC1)

76 A really good run-down of this from a CA-based lawyer is http://www.bookwormroom.com/

She hits the nail on the head when she identifies this as (at minimum) the appearance of bias, which is addressed in the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, which states explicitly that "Canon 2: A Judge Should Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in All Activities."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (NOIQH)

77 /pedant
Not necessarily 'racist,' but definitely supremacist.
/pedant
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (p2X2f)

Seemed much easier when people who talked about the supposed supremacy of their particular race were, by default- racist.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (3ZoRf)

78 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (GwIKd)

79 >> Lots of people have dual citizenship.

True, but as far as I'm concerned it's not at all appropriate for a US govt official to do so.

Posted by: JEM at June 06, 2016 04:38 PM (o+SC1)

80 "We had this discussion the other day, or is your memory bad?"

No, my memory is good, which is why I brought it up when someone suggested they couldn't join an ethnic association of lawyers as white person.

I do agree that La Raza lawyer group might be more hinky in their goals and objectives. Better show that to the dumb public though.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:38 PM (UBBWX)

81 "6
Arguing that America should be color blind is good.

Arguing that white people can't be judged by Mexicans is not.

Trump only brings this up because he's going to lose the lawsuit.

Don't worry folks, the media made sure to wait until he won to do this.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (UBBWX)"

Decades ago the Left adopted the "Pas d'ennemis à gauche" or "no enemies on the left" meaning solidarity and refusal to criticize no mater what kind of crazy shit anybody on the left came up with.

I am about ready to adopt a similar sort of philosophy.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 06, 2016 04:38 PM (QHgTq)

82 Trump is uniquely placed to get this out to the public, too. Its too bad.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:30 PM (UBBWX)

So true. If only "Fightin'" Mitch McConnell would lead the charge on this set of issues. because he'd do it with class and breeding, and one could be absolutely assured that he would observe the civilized proper rules of engagement with the utmost rigor.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 04:38 PM (8ZskC)

83
I can see the above scenario playing out - "prove you aren't biased" being turned against the Left.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:28 PM (hLRSq)
--------------------

1000000% needs to happen.

The racism charge is so magical because you can't disprove it -- to every word of defense you utter, the response is "That's exactly what a racist would say!"

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:38 PM (pC96u)

84 My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (KtcMg)

85 Well, I have to give Trump credit for not backing down... However I wish He would think a bit before He speaks....
Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (O2RFr)

Yup, many of us agree. But it is what it is

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (zp+j1)

86 >>> I do not understand why this is so forbidden to say about other races -- unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

I think this fits under those essays you did a bit ago about creating a narrative, the one that Rush went gaga over. Still applies.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (hvf9s)

87 Whoever wins the media war wins the turnout battle and wins the election.

If we go back ten days, just after the State Dept IG report came out, NBC's Chuck Todd was saying that Hillary couldn't get approved to be her own Attorney General. Then a few days later, MSM turned back on Trump, amplifying Hillary's anti-Trump foreign policy speech. Yesterday, all the Sunday morning hosts sang from the same hymnal.

It's amazing that Trump is hit over Trump U while Hillary is back to getting a pass on her legal exposures.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (r1fLd)

88 This is not to say Trump is right; in fact, I'm 99.99% sure that he's not only wrong, but that he knows he's wrong, and is just flinging poop as usual because he's an animal.

But I don't understand why this particular statement sends people shrieking.

I am going to play Super Duper Internet Understander Of Others' Motivations, because, as we all know, my social skills are unparalleled in their magnificence

What many, if not nearly all, of those so shocked and horrified at how Trump skates on this stuff are missing is how utterly, totally and completely fucking pissed off normal people are about this double standard.

IIRC, this judge is or was a part of the La Raza Lawyer's Association. You know. The Race. La Raza is straight up racist as all hell. But it's somehow beyond the pale to note that, hey, this judge is part of a group that believes in Mexican chauvinism.

Is it said inelegantly? Yup. But I've sat there and listened to my old bosses, good libs all, say terrible things about Republican judges.

My give a damn meter busted on this a looooonnnngggg time ago.

And that's why Trump wins on this stuff. People are sick oh having shit rubbed in their faces and being told to lick up that chocolate, you racist.

Also I want to know precisely how tight a Trump jersey can be and just how many times I can shake my ass before it's okay for members of La Raza to assault me. That's not a rhetorical question. I mean, if I'm asking for it, I want to know what the line is.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

89

Wise Latina

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (zOTsN)

90 Isn't this judge a member of La Raza?

And Trump is the racist?

??

Posted by: Yo! at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (GwIKd)

91 Recently at work, an incident occurred where a guy is overtly supporting Trump. It was complained about from a braindead, old frumpy lady liberal, because in his proximity is another guy... who happens to be Mexican.

American citizen, but of Mexican descent.

Struck me as incredibly rayciss... you just ASSUME the guy is offended by another guy who is a vocal Trump supporter, because he's Mexican?

No one said anything, because in that setting, rayciss is okie doke, as long as you rayciss in the right direction.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (TOk1P)

92 Trump, as usual, speaks in sound-bite shorthand, but those of us burdened with #WhitePrivilege (and with children and grandchildren that seemingly have been consigned into continually admitting their #CumulativeWhiteGuilt for decades into future), kind of see that here just might be a point.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (wYnyS)

93 Has The Combover even once brought up this judge's links to LA Raza?

Only thathe is "a member a club or society which is very strongly pro-Mexican", I believe.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (NUqwG)

94 I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:32 PM (UBBWX)

Those groups are so integrated into the mainstream culture that those associations exist for networking and to have dinners where they hand out awards which are then reported in the local Legal News.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (hLRSq)

95 So, no link to the judge being dual-national?

That would have been fun.

I think Trump could have had a good week if he let the protesters be the main story instead of his lawsuit.

I have a suspicion he's really worried about it. I think he should blow it off instead.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (UBBWX)

96 no one should have dual citizenship.

sure as hell no dual citizenship for federal judges.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (vb33c)

97 My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (KtcMg)

Well I don't know if it was remaining below the radar? This Judge was pushing in on the Radar, but I agree Trump should have left this to his lawyers and surragates.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (zp+j1)

98 >>> Trump U is no more a scam than any other educational program...that the left likes.
Posted by: Oschisms at June 06, 2016 04:35 PM (YG7z6)

Whitewater was a huge scam but the news will never cover it, because it fleeced the rich and stupid. Chelsea's husband's Greek investment plan what tanked also fits in the same boat. But yeah press will avoid like plague.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (hvf9s)

99 >>>for the most part, it's already happened, or is happening.
they may not be ready to admit it, but their actions speak for themselves.

yeah i think a lot of the current anger and huffiness are the sort of rocking the pepsi machine before knocking it over on its side. Making a sharp turn like this, a definite change of partisan loyalty, requires a certain amount of emotional drama.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (dciA+)

100 Maybe asked & answered already, but:
Has The Combover even once brought up this judge's links to LA Raza? That would be the FIRST thing to mention, no?
Isn't that the big offense here?
Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (hp+aF)

Maybe he is waiting to spring this later after everyone commits to their position?

Or

Maybe he fucked up. I dislike LaRaza. I think many do.

Posted by: Three dimensional chess? at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (v0YLX)

101 Trump should have had his attorneys file a petition for the judge to recuse himself. They didn't and haven't.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (KtcMg)

102
My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.

You have to be kidding.Clinton was going to beat that horse for all it is worth.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (lKyWE)

103 >>My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a
fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.

Because the judge is currently presiding over the Trump U case, and making decisions such as OK'ing the release of transcripts/video testimony (IIRC) that could damage his campaign for POTUS.

The judge is in a position to politically harm a candidate whose signature issue is tightening immigration. Is it any wonder that someone who has openly committed to, as part of his profession (not a hobby), support/work towards looser immigration?

At minimum, it appears he has a conflict/issue with presiding over Trump's case without bias.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (NOIQH)

104 There should be NO hyphenated Americans...THAT is a liberal fixation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (zp+j1)

105
How would (does) the judge identify himself?

If a twinkly little Telemundo reporter said "Are you American or are you Mexican?" would the judge say "My passport says American but mi corazon says Mexican!"

Just curious.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (pC96u)

106 The problem with La Raza isn't that it's some kind of club for Hispanics. The problem is that it's a racist, anti-American, supremacist organization with reconquista as its goal. It ain't like it's just a group of Hispanics who get together for a rubber chicken luncheon once a month.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (0mRoj)

107 I want to live in a world where a white comic can make a joke about a crippled black transvestite with a lisp and only worry that he'll be fired if it's not funny.

I want to live in a world where people who risk their money to start a business can hire whoever they believe will help them and do the job instead of worrying about if the racial mix is correct.

I want to live in a world where conservative ideas can be voiced on a college campus without riots and death threats for automatically being labeled a racist.

Without Trump or someone exactly as inept at political speak as he is, I fear we will fall ever deeper into a sick little politically correct spiral of constant outrage and apologies.

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (Zs4uk)

108 any college-educated member of the middle upper professional class will have been taught various Zen-like techniques of rising above mere ego and existence.

LOL.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (rmw+9)

109 I was not a Trump supporter before he clinched it but with all the ruckus since I am starting to lean that way. Issue and policy differences aside I get the sense he knows and feels what is indeed horseshit with pop culture. It is as if we are watching All in the Family reruns and realizing that Archie was a stand up and decent guy underneath and meathead was just what he was, a useless intellectual parasite. F you meathead, I want someone who knows what work is running the show.

Posted by: Garbone at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (9dH/8)

110 Cases like this are supposed to be assigned to judges at random, with some exceptions. Judges are known to cheat on this. e.g. Judge Schiedlien cheated to get the NYC stop and frisk case.

Did the La Raza judge get this case randomly, or did he cheat?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (r1fLd)

111 >>>My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

...

i don't know if it would have remained below the radar. the judge did in fact release all these documents gathered so far at trial -- which paint trump very negatively. (Of course -- he's a scumbag.)

Contrast to the judge in the Hillary case who kept all the documents under seal so as not to prejudice political matters outside the lawsuit

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (dciA+)

112 Whoops; Hillary sock off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (rmw+9)

113 >>> The minute our society embraced the hyphenization of our citizen status (e.g. - Mexican-American, African-American, Pakistani-American, etc.)
......

Every been to New Jersey? Italian American, Irish American, clubs all over the place. Italian Americans from Jersey are about as Italian as your average taco.

You know who else is technically American? Canadians, Mexicans, everyone from every South American country.

Your point stands though. Growing up, the United States was a melting pot and land of opportunity. People came here to get away from wherever they were coming from to "pursue happiness" and benefit from unique freedoms enshrined in Constitution. By the time I got to high school, the new PC had become, "well, it's not really a melting pot. That's wrong. It's a stew, where everything retain is form and uniqueness but adds to the overall flavor".

Fine. Go ahead an add rotten fish and feces to your stew and tell me about how it adds to the flavor. In a melting pot, it wouldn't matter. Throw all the shit in you want to. It will burn off and become ash and slag while the valuable metals remain.

Posted by: Damiano at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (71OEY)

114
Trump should have had his attorneys file a petition for the judge to recuse himself. They didn't and haven't.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (KtcMg)
-----------------

With any luck, they will.

With better luck, it will reach the Wise Latina, and she will be called upon to recuse herself.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (pC96u)

115 I just realized that I, too, live in a house that was built by slaves.

I just don't give it much thought; it was, after all, a long time ago.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (TnUKj)

116 I have sat through voir dire on two federal cases. Defense lawyers do not want white males on the jury and will kick them off for any excuse. They want black females. Sometimes the judge halts that by picking the jury himself and allowing the lawyers only to challenge a juror for legal reasons.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (mpXpK)

117 I also think the trump people should be talking this up as president for the left wing colleges and universities to be sued for leaving students with useless degrees and punishing debt.... Let the left fear a donald loss.

Posted by: E.T. at June 06, 2016 04:44 PM (c+7Ko)

118 Let's compare La Raza Lawyers of San Diego to Italian American Lawyers Association:

"To render mutual aid and assistance to its members;
To promote Italian culture and the general welfare of its members and the improvement of the practice of the law;"

"Our purpose is to advance the cause of equality, empowerment and justice for Latino attorneys and the Latino community in San Diego County through service and advocacy. We are dedicated to promoting diversity on both the bench and bar. We support law students with mentorship programs and scholarships."

So....what's the verdict?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:44 PM (UBBWX)

119 "Well, I have to give Trump credit for not backing down... However I wish He would think a bit before He speaks.... "

No way you would say that if the judge was aligned with the KKK.

This judge is a racist and shouldn't be on the bench at all.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 04:44 PM (zrrza)

120
Isn't this judge a member of La Raza?

Yes, but evidently it's not that La Raza but a different one so it's OK.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (IqV8l)

121

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (MIKMs)

He is waging war in the press. All that matters is that people take a jaundiced look at the judge's actions. That takes all of the power out of any leaks or releases of selected documents by the court.

Or do you think that the way that Jack Ryan's divorce case was unsealed, paving Obama's way to the senate, is something that every Republican candidate should take lying down?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (hLRSq)

122 The Italian-American Lawyers Association seems more about eating food:

"Annual events include "California Supreme Court Night," featuring the Chief Justice and Associate Justices of our state's high court, "Gaelic and Garlic Night," held with the Irish American Bar Association., "Marco Polo Night," held with the Southern California Chinese Lawyers Association and the Japanese American Bar Association., "Hall of Fame Night," where we honor prominent members of our community, and the "Installation Ball."

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (UBBWX)

123 >>>What many, if not nearly all, of those so shocked and horrified at how Trump skates on this stuff are missing is how utterly, totally and completely fucking pissed off normal people are about this double standard.

I'm moderately pissed off about it. I could live with it, limp along with it, UNTIL I see it used as a major attack line, then I must say STOP.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (dciA+)

124 "Allow 4-6 weeks for the delivery of your white privilege decoder ring.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 04:31 PM (8ZskC)"

I got the ring but I am not sure just what Ovaltine has to do with white privilege.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (QHgTq)

125 >>> I think Trump could have had a good week if he let the protesters be the main story instead of his lawsuit.

Oh that was not going to happen anyway. If need be, they'd just kick up another child falling in gorilla pen story, etc, anything to distract from political news not fitting the narrative.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (hvf9s)

126 76 A really good run-down of this from a CA-based lawyer is http://www.bookwormroom.com/
She hits the nail on the head when she identifies this as (at minimum) the appearance of bias, which is addressed in the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, which states explicitly that "Canon 2: A Judge Should Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in All Activities."
Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:37 PM (NOIQH)

I made that point about appearances the other day. It doesn't matter if he CAN be unbiased, if the circumstances might make it APPEAR he COULD be biased.

Of course, Fabulous Judge Lance who struck down Prop. 8 then went home to his boyfriend was above any such appearance of impropriety.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (oKE6c)

127
I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

But do they specialize in Irish or Italian issues?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (lKyWE)

128

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 06, 2016 04:36 PM (MIKMs)

He is waging war in the press. All that matters is that people take a jaundiced look at the judge's actions. That takes all of the power out of any leaks or releases of selected documents by the court.

Or do you think that the way that Jack Ryan's divorce case was unsealed, paving Obama's way to the senate, is something that every Republican candidate should take lying down?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:46 PM (hLRSq)

129 "Trump Orders Surrogates to Step Up Attacks on Judges"...
and then Ace attacks the judge...

Posted by: HowardDevore at June 06, 2016 04:46 PM (Dvsvs)

130
So....what's the verdict?
Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:44 PM (UBBWX)
-----------------

The wops want to improve the practice of the law.

The beaners want more beaners on the bench.

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:46 PM (pC96u)

131 "With better luck, it will reach the Wise Latina, and she will be called upon to recuse herself."

Justice Kagan ought by any measure of legal ethics to have promptly recused herself from _NFIB v. Sebelius_, given her extensive prior role in Obamacare. She didn't, and no one said boo about it.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (noWW6)

132 Isn't this judge a member of La Raza?

Yes, but evidently it's not that La Raza but a different one so it's OK.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (IqV8l)

BUT it links directly to the Parent La Raza Organization

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (zp+j1)

133 Sorry for the double post, but the site has been hanging from time to time.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (hLRSq)

134 Hillary! was using the Trump U thing in Her attack speeches so....

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (O2RFr)

135 Only thathe is "a member a club or society which is very strongly pro-Mexican", I believe.
Posted by: RioBravo
------------
Thanks, Rio.
I've yet to see a single mention of him bringing it up at all.
This seems like the point to hammer home. Educate the voters on who/what La Raza is, then drill that point home like NGU with a vengeance and no novacaine.

Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (hp+aF)

136 Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:43 PM (dciA+)

By below the radar I mean I believe it would have been looked at as just another lawsuit filed against Trump of which there have been many ( which happens when you have a lot of business ventures) .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (KtcMg)

137 >>> Yes, but evidently it's not that La Raza but a different one so it's OK.

Ah he was a member of La Raza: SVU.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (hvf9s)

138
So....what's the verdict?

It's plain as day.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (kon7k)

139 "Or do you think that the way that Jack Ryan's divorce case was unsealed, paving Obama's way to the senate, is something that every Republican candidate should take lying down?"

It was actually a child custody proceeding, which was unsealed over the objections of ex-husband, ex-wife and child, and so was especially outrageous.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (r1fLd)

140 My question is why potentially f up your
Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have
remained below the radar.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (KtcMg)

------------------------------------

Well I don't know if it was remaining below the radar? This Judge
was pushing in on the Radar, but I agree Trump should have left this to
his lawyers and surragates.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:41 PM (zp+j1)

Also, I think Trump is more or less done with non-supporters explaining to him how to not F up his Presidential bid.

But for those who still need it explained. The reason why Trump does this stuff is because he's Don Trump and not whitebread Republican Presidential nominee #87. If you wanted whitebread Republican Presidential nominee #87's way on this, you should have nominated whitebread Republican Presidential nominee #87.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (TOk1P)

141 127
I found an Irish-American and Italian-American lawyers association. So, they do exist.

But do they specialize in Irish or Italian issues?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (lKyWE)

Like programs for alcoholism and anger management issues?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (0mRoj)

142 Also, those who have latched onto "La Raza" meaning "race" here is what La Raza Lawyers say:

http://tinyurl.com/h7j3bzo

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (UBBWX)

143
This is the ultimate end point of racial politics.

I'm laughing that the media and the left are now calling foul, or that the weak part of the Republican party, which has gladly gone along with this bullshit as part of their college training, is *now* finding a problem with it.

It always was a problem -- from the Wise Latina to Trump.

if the Wise Latina gets a pass, so does this orange clown.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (dciA+)

144
Sexypig, are you really defending the lawyers La Raza?

Really?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (kon7k)

145
The judge is a White Hispanic!

Posted by: ArthurK at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (h53OH)

146
Justice Kagan ought by any measure of legal ethics to have promptly recused herself from _NFIB v. Sebelius_, given her extensive prior role in Obamacare. She didn't, and no one said boo about it.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (noWW6)

Different strokes for different folks
Rules don't apply to the Left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (zp+j1)

147 "IIRC, this judge is or was a part of the La Raza Lawyer's Association. You know. The Race. La Raza is straight up racist as all hell. But it's somehow beyond the pale to note that, hey, this judge is part of a group that believes in Mexican chauvinism. "

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

I watched a female CNN anchor go batshit crazy indignant correcting a Trump support today when he said that the judge was a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association.

She practically screamed that the Association had nothing to do with La Raza, the organization.

I believe the Trump feared for his life, knowing that if he persisted, she was going to jump over a few chairs and slap the white racist right off his face.

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (Zs4uk)

148 >>Contrast to the judge in the Hillary case who kept all the documents
under seal so as not to prejudice political matters outside the lawsuit

Exactly.
Also notice it's OK for Hillary to attack the IG and FBI investigators as biased, with no apparent cause other than that's the Clinton "scorched earth" approach, while Trump is totes out of line for ever questioning the bias of federal judge (*clutches pearls*).

After 7+ years of Obama, a federal authority acting with bias towards Obama's political foes, harassing them for things that do not directly correlate with their area of disagreement (see Gibson Guitar) is not unlikely at all.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (NOIQH)

149 why is it acceptable for an entire ethnic cohort of our country to openly advocate for and support people who illegally enter, reside, and work in our country? why does anyone pander to the legal or illegal advocates of this behavior?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (vb33c)

150 "our Upper Middle Class Socially Liberal coterie "

Fuck 'em. At this juncture, they have been so castrated by fear of being called a "racist" that they are functionally Democrats as it is.

The Left wrong the tiger of racial identity politics and white-shaming for a long time. It's circling back on them now, and those they imbued with Stockholm Syndrome are hopelessly confused.

Trump also happens to be the luckiest man on Earth. I'm certain he had no idea about the La Raza connections when he decided to muddy up the judge as a bigot. It almost makes this story perfect the judge is a member of an anti-white hate group and likely a racist. Trump apparently didn't get the memo this only went one way.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (/k03U)

151 Ah he was a member of La Raza: SVU.
Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (hvf9s)

I was gonna go with "not laraza-raza" but yours is funnier.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (7lVbc)

152
Yes, but evidently it's not that La Raza but a different one so it's OK.

How many of the lawyers in La Raza the legal association have worked for La Raza the activist group?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (lKyWE)

153 BUT it links directly to the Parent La Raza Organization

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (zp+j1)

Ah, yes, but it's not La Raza-La Raza, so it's totes OK!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (wYnyS)

154 My question is why potentially fuck up your Presidential bid by picking a fight on a personal matter that would have remained below the radar.

Hillary was already beating that horse.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (OkKDg)

155 "Also, I think Trump is more or less done with non-supporters explaining to him how to not F up his Presidential bid."

but, you, as a supporter, can advise him.

LOL. I will opine on Trump all I want, dude. Just like Trump can do whatever he wants.

He's not the Dear Leader.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (UBBWX)

156 AFAIK, Trump specifically went after this guy not because he is of Mexican descent, but because he is associated with La Raza. It's not racism to note the voluntary associations of people.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (EzgxV)

157 Maybe he should try to bribe the judge with taco bowls from Trump Tower. Or send him a piñata.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (acDMI)

158 Only thathe is "a member a club or society which is very strongly pro-Mexican", I believe.

Posted by: RioBravo

------------

Thanks, Rio.

I've yet to see a single mention of him bringing it up at all.

This seems like the point to hammer home. Educate the voters on
who/what La Raza is, then drill that point home like NGU with a
vengeance and no novacaine.

Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 04:47 PM (hp+aF)

I think that's how a lawyer would do it. Explain it in detail, the how and why and what of an organization most Americans have never heard of.

Or do it Trump style, and talk about it being Mexican. Americans have heard of Mexican.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (TOk1P)

159 Ra Laza?

Posted by: Asian Activists at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (OkKDg)

160 Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (7lVbc)

Curses, foiled again!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (wYnyS)

161 Trump is a whitebread Democrat, and somehow we nominated him anyway.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (2cS/G)

162 "How many of the lawyers in La Raza the legal association have worked for La Raza the activist group?"

That would be very, very useful to know.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (UBBWX)

163 Trump also happens to be the luckiest man on Earth.

--

He is a lucky ducky. Can't beat that.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (7lVbc)

164
btw, everyone, for the sake of full disclose, I am lifelong member of La Leche.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (kon7k)

165 "Also, I think Trump is more or less done with non-supporters explaining to him how to not F up his Presidential bid."

------------------------------------
but, you, as a supporter, can advise him.

LOL. I will opine on Trump all I want, dude. Just like Trump can do whatever he wants.

He's not the Dear Leader.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (UBBWX)

I'm not advising anyone. Including you. I couldn't care less what you do.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (TOk1P)

166 104 There should be NO hyphenated Americans...THAT is a liberal fixation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:42 PM (zp+j1)

Agreed.

And where did that hyphenation crap come from? The Comintern, in April 1945, per Bella Dodd's book School of Darkness:

http://genus.cogia.net/chap13.php

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (oKE6c)

167 >>>Arguing that America should be color blind is good.

Arguing that white people can't be judged by Mexicans is not.

..

but this is hardly out of the routine. Every single time a jury comes to a verdict in a racially charged trial that the media doesn't like, the media makes a special -- and frequent -- note of the jury's ethnicity.

Apparently ethnicity is only a useful insight into someone's thinking when that someone disagrees with the media.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (dciA+)

168 Yes, but evidently it's not that La Raza but a different one so it's OK.

How many of the lawyers in La Raza the legal association have worked for La Raza the activist group?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (lKyWE)

right, it is similar to how you had ss concentration camp guards and regular nazis

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (vb33c)

169
For those unaware, La Leche is an organization dedicated to latina breast milk, of which I'm all for.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (kon7k)

170 btw, everyone, for the sake of full disclose, I am lifelong member of La Leche.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (kon7k)

subscribing to the website does not make you a memeber

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (vb33c)

171 Trump is a whitebread Democrat, and somehow we nominated him anyway.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (2cS/G)

But what even if he is, and I do not think he is, The "White Bread" democrat of the 60s and 70s not longer exists. Today's Democrats are pure RED thru and thru. Left Wing Commies.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (zp+j1)

172 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:49 PM (OkKDg)

Was getting no traction at all that I saw. It would have been one news cycle and gone. Not any more.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (KtcMg)

173 This shows how genuinely stupid Trump is.. when you find yourself in a hole, stop fucking digging!

You cannot impune a judge because of their ethnicity! It calls into question our entire judicial system and 200 plus years of precedent.

Donald - the judge is an American.. born in Indiana.. drop it you fucking retard.

And no.. people who have tentatively backed you so far are not going to stick their necks out for you any further..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (so+oy)

174 Whoops; Hillary sock off.
...............

Phew.

Posted by: Hillary!s feet at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (HgMAr)

175 Trump is a whitebread Democrat, and somehow we nominated him anyway.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (2cS/G)

You keep telling yourself that, sport.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (TOk1P)

176 What's unfair is that both Trump and Hillary have legal issue, but one of them will have it on ice until after the election if it all.

Maybe Hillary can complain that Comey is a man, and therefore is out to get her.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (UBBWX)

177 Trump is a whitebread Democrat, and somehow we nominated him anyway.

Posted by: Lincolntf

Well, I was this close to the nom, you know.

Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (p2X2f)

178 Who you gonna believe, me or your lying Spanish-English dictionary?

Posted by: El Beaner at June 06, 2016 04:52 PM (QM5S2)

179 164
btw, everyone, for the sake of full disclose, I am lifelong member of La Leche.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (kon7k)

The Breastfeeding Liberation Front, Screaming Fanatic Division?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (0mRoj)

180 Trump is a whitebread Democrat, and somehow we nominated him anyway.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (2cS/G)

Might be true, but at least he is not a dual party Republican-Democrat.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (wYnyS)

181 Curiel was born in East Chicago, Indiana, the youngest of four children whose parents had immigrated into the United States from Mexico. His parents were from Mascota, Mexico, which is a small town near Puerto Vallarta. His father reportedly arrived in the U.S. after the Bracero Program was established in 1942, and became a legal resident by the time his mother arrived, whereas a different report says both parents arrived in the 1920s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_P._Curiel

Nationality by birth

The Mexican Constitution states that Mexicans Citizens by birth are:

-persons born in Mexican territory regardless of parents' nationality or immigration status in Mexico
-persons born abroad of a Mexican Citizen born in Mexico
-persons born to an individual after that person has become a naturalized citizen of Mexico
-individuals born on Mexican merchant- or Navy ships or Mexican-registered aircraft, regardless of parents' nationality
-children born to Mexican Diplomats or Ministry of Foreign Affairs Personnel working overseas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_nationality_law

Born in the US, so US citizen.
Born to parents abroad (of Mexico) who were Mexican citizens who themselves born in Mexico, so he is also a Mexican citizen.
Dual citizenship.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (R+30W)

182 >>>yeah i think a lot of the current anger and huffiness are the sort of rocking the pepsi machine before knocking it over on its side. Making a sharp turn like this, a definite change of partisan loyalty, requires a certain amount of emotional drama.

and thus, they are FOS

Posted by: concrete girl at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (ceWrl)

183 Isn't the judge a La Raza stooge?

Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (4ErVI)

184 This is a battle that needed to happen. I'm not particularly happy that Trump is our standard bearer for this fight, but oh well - I'll fight for the cause regardless of the General.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (kumBu)

185 The only possible point I can see in the #NeverTrumpers pushing this so hard is their one-in-fifty-billion outside chance that the can make so radioactive by the convention that the RNC will re-write the rules to nominate someone else.

I can sort of see the sense of that... I don't like trump either. The problem is, it's just not going to happen, so all #NeverTrump is accomplishing here is #PresidentHillaryRodham.

She'll drop the "Clinton" name at some point. She doesn't want to be known by her Slave Name.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (dciA+)

186 Trump is helping Renee Elmers face off a challenger.

I'm quote impressed with how fast he became GOPe.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (UBBWX)

187 >>"How many of the lawyers in La Raza the legal association have worked for La Raza the activist group?"

The guy who founded and presided over the La Raza Lawyers Assn also founded/presided over MALDEF:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6156

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (NOIQH)

188 I watched a female CNN anchor go batshit crazy
indignant correcting a Trump support today when he said that the judge
was a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association.

She practically screamed that the Association had nothing to do with La Raza, the organization.

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 04:48 PM (Zs4uk)
So ... she implicitly admitted that La Raza, the organization, is racist and subversive, and beyond the pale, right? Or else why would she be at pains to draw the distinction?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (oKE6c)

189 And 'Jihad' means prayer or something.

Posted by: Hadji el Mohammed at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (QM5S2)

190 With better luck, it will reach the Wise Latina, and she will be called upon to recuse herself.

This.

When "diversity" is shilled by the Left, we're told that racial identity is so deeply rooted in one's psyche that it naturally colors how the person views the interpretation and application of laws that appear on the surface to be written in plain old English. Hence, being a "Wise Latina" is an uber-qualification for the high court because the "Latina" part gives her magic super-judicial powers that a white judge could never access.

So hold them to that. If one's racial identity infuses one's very idea of justice, then let us be completely consistent. White parties should not be subject to the decisions of non-white judges and should be permitted to challenge them for cause.

If that is their philosophy, then they should feast on it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (8ZskC)

191 Amen Ace...

Bill Krstol is a hypocritical fuckwit...

if he had business before a Judge who was out and proud in Ein Volk membership he'd go apeshit as he should.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (g8Hfr)

192 Or do you think that the way that Jack Ryan's
divorce case was unsealed, paving Obama's way to the senate, is
something that every Republican candidate should take lying down? Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:45 PM (hLRSq)
=====

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the same --

There are no 'trade secrets' involved. It is strictly a business action and the class was certified well before DT was a gleam in the POTUS race's eye; and should be treated as such. There are no 'personal' matters at issue. DT wants personal fights to deflect. Says whiny gamma loser male to me.

Regular old DT nonsense. I really do not think anyone cares one way or another.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (MIKMs)

193 Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (4ErVI)

What, no adjective for the mistress?

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (7lVbc)

194 The Breastfeeding Liberation Front, Screaming Fanatic Division?

And they are too.... Neighbor was a "member" If you didn't nurse Your child You were the anti-christ.. Woman "nursed" Her kid till She was 5... Sick in My book...

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (O2RFr)

195 "The only possible point I can see in the #NeverTrumpers pushing this so hard is their one-in-fifty-billion outside chance that the can make so radioactive by the convention that the RNC will re-write the rules to nominate someone else."

#NeverTrump doesn't matter.

The media matters.

And Trump keeps bringing this up himself, as per your article...

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (UBBWX)

196 Latina Breast Milk is ok.

But it's no Korean Breast Milk.

Posted by: P-Diddy at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (6kxiP)

197 So, they say 'La Raza' means not 'the race,' but 'the community.'

Which means they're not race-ists, they're commun-ists?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (OkKDg)

198
Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

You forgot "orange wig."

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (kon7k)

199 Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (g8Hfr)

No. He would have had his attorneys file the appropriate petition and established a basis for a future appeal.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (KtcMg)

200 btw, everyone, for the sake of full disclose, I am lifelong member of La Leche.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:50 PM (kon7k)

The Breastfeeding Liberation Front, Screaming Fanatic Division?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (0mRoj)

I thought it was that hard shell coating they put on ice cream.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (TOk1P)

201 I would warn people here not to assume THIS is going to hurt Trump. I thought he was finished after that SC Debate and boy ( not that boy) was I wrong. He has been counted out a few times already and all he does is gain more support. LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (zp+j1)

202 >>>You cannot impune a judge because of their ethnicity! It calls into question our entire judicial system and 200 plus years of precedent.

And...?

Besides, as I keep saying, it's LITERALLY DONE ALL THE TIME. Whenever someone makes a ruling on a cop shooting the media doesn't like, they can't wait to tell you the juror or DA is WHITE.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

And I'm tired of these weak-tea "We Must Work to Shore Up the Credibility and Authority of our Political System" arguments.

Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)

203 "I'm moderately pissed off about it. I could live with it, limp along with it, UNTIL I see it used as a major attack line, then I must say STOP."

By the time the infection is showing major symptoms it's too late.

Trump supporters were beaten in San Jose by illegals and the police department sat and watched.

That has never, ever happened before.

People still have their heads in the sand.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (zrrza)

204 I think trump knew what he was doing when he started against the judge...it speaks to the double standard racial divide that we find ourselves in and i think most people are against that as they are against the crazy pc crap..... Trump should continue to beat this horse... More please

Posted by: E.T. at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (c+7Ko)

205 She'll drop the "Clinton" name at some point. She doesn't want to be known by her Slave Name.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (dciA+)

meh, not likely, pretty sure her non-slave name is not speakable in prime time.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (vb33c)

206 197 So, they say 'La Raza' means not 'the race,' but 'the community.'

Which means they're not race-ists, they're commun-ists?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (OkKDg)

It means they're liars.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (0mRoj)

207 "Every been to New Jersey? Italian American, Irish American, clubs all over the place. Italian Americans from Jersey are about as Italian as your average taco.

You know who else is technically American? Canadians, Mexicans, everyone from every South American country. "

Oh, yeah. I got an earful of the whole "'American' describes ALL of the Americas" shtick in my undergrad work. Still I wonder, is there any other more fitting descriptor for those from the U.S.?

It's funny how you don't see that hyphenization nearly as much when referring to those whose ancestors come from a European ancestry. Still the central ideal is that those who immigrate should acculturate to the dominant, primary country to which one is immigrating. To allow the country to adapt to service immigrants is pure insanity and a most telling sign of a failing immigration (and social?) policy. For grins, take a look at immigration policies of most other first-world countries . . . and then compare/contrast with that of the U.S.! Insanity.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (4SznG)

208
Her kid till She was 5...

It's pretty easy to know when to definitely stop breastfeeding -- when the kid begins to fondle the breast while slurping.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (kon7k)

209 6 Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:24 PM (UBBWX)

No shitpig, being a member of an ethnic supremacy group in a creed based multi-ethnic society is a no go.

I would not tolerate John Bull Member of "Anglos Only!" for a case with a Hispanic...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (g8Hfr)

210 Those groups are so integrated into the mainstream culture that those associations exist for networking and to have dinners where they hand out awards which are then reported in the local Legal News.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries Billy Kristol DIY Candidate Kits! at June 06, 2016 04:40 PM (hLRSq)

Story time!

Before I left Old Firm, the Big Boss, who was reaching the I am a grand old member of the bar age, started getting various and sundry awards from various and sundry organizations. One local group named an award after him. I said to him one day how nice it was that his contributions were being recognized. His reply? "They're doing this because I'm old and going to die soon."

I was all "Ummmmmmm no?" Because, well, he wasn't entirely wrong or anything like that. But yes, I suddenly had to go to the bathroom and oh look at the time I have to get that thing done right now.

WHY ARE YOU DOING YOGA ON THAT TREE, TREE RAT? WHY? WHY? Ahem.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (mf5HN)

211 I mainly post anti-Trump stuff because he seems to be pushing the "right" into a white-identity movement.

Though maybe that was already baked in the cake by the Democrats.

But mainly I am just trying to avoid work....

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (UBBWX)

212 If democrats and progressives can ruthlessly attack judges for:

1. Christianity (see Scalia and his death),
2. Racially "selling out" (see Thomas)

Why cannot we?

Also considering the left in general has accused everyone who disagrees with them as racist, murders, slavers, rapists, etc., I feel it is incumbent upon those who disagree with leftist to fight fire with fire. Heck if for no other reason than principal, but better because of common sense. He hits you, you hit him harder.

You cannot win this war with the left by just shaking your head and then going through a defensive discourse filled with facts proving you are none of those things. Why? Just to prove to your enemies that you are a good guy, that you fit their lunatic world view . Like Mittens "binders of women" response to sexism accusations accomplished nothing. Heck they will just used Romney's proof being "pro-woman" against him by saying he admitted his guilty sexist ways (see he used binders!), or something. Then Romney ran around apologizing for that...

Too many GOP leaders are lawyers and their advisers are media relations people. They think in terms of court rooms, and making the media happy. Trump however is a ruthless property man, with a vulgar personality. He understands one thing, which they don't. This is not a court room, not a media relations PR firm, but a verbal, and possibly violent street battle.

Admitting you are wrong to your enemies is a bad move in those situations. It is like admitting you are wrong to Hitler for the bad deal Germany got at the end of WWI. The GOP for too long keeps admitting their supposed "wrongs", and left uses them to get the GOP to surrender more territory without a fight. You notice the left never admits their wrongs. They know this is a street fight...and one they have been winning for the last 25 years or more.

Note: Yes the left is the enemy. This nation, in fact all of western civilization is in a deep, deep, cold war with itself that could turn hot any moment. You are not going to save yourself by giving anything else to them, in word or deed. That is another thing that is refreshing about Trump, no matter how vulgar he gets he rarely apologizes.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (KhJh8)

213 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (8ZskC)

Sorry ese, #WhitePrivilege makes is impossible for the white man to not be racist to his very core and influence his every action. All PoC in their every thought and deed are pure, like the clean fresh wind that blows across the mountains in the spring!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (wYnyS)

214 >>>And Trump keeps bringing this up himself, as per your article...

#NeverTrump amplifies it.

#NeverTrump isn't pushing back against any of these long-standing bullshit codes, like that we can question the partiality of a white jury, but never a minority one; indeed, they're the spear-carrying Valkyries for the media class in this.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (dciA+)

215
She'll drop the "Clinton" name at some point. She doesn't want to be known by her Slave Name.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:53 PM (dciA+)
--------------------

har har har

Posted by: iforgot at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (pC96u)

216 206 Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:57 PM (0mRoj)

On the website of the organization in question they try the dodge "it means the people" you know since non spanish speaking folks are subhuman...?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (g8Hfr)

217 I'm not sure if is a tree Trump need to bark up at, that's all.

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (3wHFl)

218 Travon Martin

Remember how the white cop was immediately identified?

Posted by: Yo! at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (GwIKd)

219 I mainly post anti-Trump stuff because he seems to be pushing the "right" into a white-identity movement.

NO, THAT's your hang up, not ours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (zp+j1)

220 169
For those unaware, La Leche is an organization dedicated to latina breast milk, of which I'm all for.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 04:51 PM (kon7k)

The La Leche League? We used to call them the nipple nazis.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (cgeHX)

221 197 So, they say 'La Raza' means not 'the race,' but 'the community.'
Which means they're not race-ists, they're commun-ists?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (OkKDg)

No, well, yes, but it also means they're liars.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (oKE6c)

222
So, they say 'La Raza' means not 'the race,' but 'the community.'

Yeah, and it's not 72 virgins. It's 72 raisins.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (IqV8l)

223 well, if the judge's background does not matter, why was everyone mentioning that the judge in the most recent baltimore trial was black?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (vb33c)

224 194 The Breastfeeding Liberation Front, Screaming Fanatic Division?

And they are too.... Neighbor was a "member" If you didn't nurse Your child You were the anti-christ.. Woman "nursed" Her kid till She was 5... Sick in My book...
Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 04:55 PM (O2RFr)

Some of them are actually nice people who help new mothers through breastfeeding problems. Some of them are raving lunatics.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (0mRoj)

225

Great post.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (qCMvj)

226 Remember when they particularly focused in how many Catholics were on the SC?

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (B48dK)

227 Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)

POINTS WILDLY

This.

Here's a poll for the Horde. Do you believe the current US political system, executive, legislative and judiciary, have the consent of the governed?

Because I sure as fuck don't.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (mf5HN)

228
Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 04:54 PM (NOIQH)

That settles the issue for me

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (lKyWE)

229 "No shitpig, being a member of an ethnic supremacy group in a creed based multi-ethnic society is a no go. "

La Raza Lawyers claim they are just like any other lawyers group.

They say that La Raza doesn't mean "the race" but refers to Hispanics as a people.

To be honest, it would be great to have them explicitly be forced to spell this out clearly.

I notice the "the name" webpage on their site appears new. I don't remember that a few days ago.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (UBBWX)

230 This is me not giving a shit about what Trump does or does not say. He's not talking for the benefit of me, or for most anyone posting on this blog. He's talking to another audience.

Posted by: kraken at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (sdxPm)

231
I mainly post anti-Trump stuff because he seems to be pushing the "right" into a white-identity movement.

The Left was going to tell you this was happening no matter who the nominee was. Your problem is that you live by the Left's rules.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (kon7k)

232 If Killary can forestall an indictment and Prison time by running for her life.....errr for POTUS......maybe #Trump can forego an early decision by minority Judge and a FINE...by running for POTUS with The most-ess...

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (6WPRH)

233
You cannot impune a judge because of their ethnicity! It calls into question our entire judicial system and 200 plus years of precedent.

Donald - the judge is an American.. born in Indiana.. drop it you fucking retard.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
---------------------
And this is my point -
Why is he bringing up "Mexican?"
He's a RADICAL Mexican La Raza member! THAT'S what you rail about, dammit. Can't you wrap your Good Brain around that? A federal judge with that kind of connection? Sitting on your case? This should've been a feature for The One, not a bug.

Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (hp+aF)

234 Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)

Where's AllenG?

Posted by: Golfman - Conservative Refugee seeking asylum at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (48QDY)

235 "Fuck our political system." Feel the Bern.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (2cS/G)

236 Yeah, right. And "Ku Kux Klan" means "the bowling league."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (8ZskC)

237 >>>So....what's the verdict?

the lr mission statement uses pretty words.
go down to the street, listen to their words and you'll get to the meat of things.
ac-tu-ality

Posted by: concrete girl at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (ceWrl)

238 Ace is finally mad enough to say the things I've wanted to see him say so that I don't have to agonize over not being able to put it eloquently enough.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (2iRpt)

239 I see this controversy a bookend to the recent and currently ongoing Title IX kerfuffle: per Alinsky, make the Left live up to their own rules.

What would they say if the situation were reversed, and a "Build the Wall" supporter were the judge in a case involving a member of La Raza?

They'd shake the rafters of Heaven will their bleating. Shoe, other foot.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:01 PM (oKE6c)

240
La Leche League.

They're a league!

Like a baseball league. Or a league under the sea, perhaps.

A league.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (kon7k)

241 Hey, does the saying "if you're explaining, you're losing" work for La Raza?

Because they seem to be explaining their name, a lot.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (UBBWX)

242 They say that La Raza doesn't mean "the race" but refers to Hispanics as a people.

And you bought this? Or are you just reporting what they claim?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (cgeHX)

243 Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

Who are you talking about?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (rmw+9)

244 >>The Breastfeeding Liberation Front, Screaming Fanatic Division?

OMG, yes!!

Went to their site for tips/tricks for stopping breast feeding, and got in an endless loop of page links that went like this:

Ceasebreastfeeding-->Why do you want to stop?-->Benefits of breastfeeding

Had gone there originally because the hospital's breastfeeding specialists were the same way: all they want to do is convince you to do it more/longer for the health of the baby!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (NOIQH)

245 128: "He is waging war in the press. All that matters is that people take a jaundiced look at the judge's actions. That takes all of the power out of any leaks or releases of selected documents by the court. "

Again, the La Raza connection was gravy. If that gets traction, and it looks like it will, the mediots will try to make this two minutes of hate go down the memory hole real fast. Luck surely counts for something, and in the DJT there seems to be lots of it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (/k03U)

246 If you want to see racism, put a Trump sticker on your car and drive through the hispanic part of town. Just make sure you got your insurance card on you.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (acDMI)

247 "Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy."

Yeah, its depressing.

I kinda hoped I'd live in a Golden Age instead of the "Decline and Fall" section of history.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (UBBWX)

248 Trump supporters were beaten in San Jose by illegals and the police department sat and watched.

--
The San Jose police chief also appears to be La Raza

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (7lVbc)

249 Remember how the white cop was immediately identified?

Posted by: Yo! at June 06, 2016 04:59 PM (GwIKd)

And I seem to remember a "white" Hispanic being involved!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (wYnyS)

250 I got up, looked in the bathroom mirror, and self-identified as white. Now I just need to find a "movement", I guess. Whatever....

Posted by: kraken at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (sdxPm)

251
The League Of Extraordinary La Leche

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (kon7k)

252 229 Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (UBBWX)

It's been there for weeks.

"About the name" no no we are the GOOD La Raza not the Reconquista one...

"right"

Just like "Ein Volk" means "the people" and if they gave out ethnicity based scholarships based on german fluency, requiring blonde hair blue eyes and particular political views the Judge in question would be all

"si amigo ees good"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (g8Hfr)

253 227 Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)

POINTS WILDLY

This.

Here's a poll for the Horde. Do you believe the current US political system, executive, legislative and judiciary, have the consent of the governed?

Because I sure as fuck don't.
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (mf5HN)

Nope.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:04 PM (0mRoj)

254 The San Jose police chief also appears to be La Raza

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (7lVbc)

Oh, didn't know he was a lawyer in addition to being police chief!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:04 PM (wYnyS)

255 243 Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

Who are you talking about?

Not me! I have an illegal alien trophy wife and fake-titted servants!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 06, 2016 05:04 PM (acDMI)

256 Here's a poll for the Horde. Do you believe the current US political system, executive, legislative and judiciary, have the consent of the governed?

Because I sure as fuck don't.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (mf5HN)

And here's another question just like it: Do you think the problems facing this country can be fixed by voting?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (cgeHX)

257 They say that La Raza doesn't mean "the race" but refers to Hispanics as a people.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (UBBWX)

Wait. What? Referring to a group of people by their genetic commonalities or, as a people, IS referring to their race.

God I hate Clinton for elevating the art of linguistic bullshit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (3ZoRf)

258 Apparently the "ends justifies the means" is now a thing on the right, too. Great, just great. Where is the line with Trump? Is there anything he could do that people would condemn? Or is it all OK because he has the right enemies?

Posted by: Myself at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (5wiU6)

259 "She'll drop the 'Clinton' name at some point. She doesn't want to be known by her Slave Name."

One of the sports columnists for the NY Post, who you have to expect will now lose his job for his temerity, pointed out that "Muhammad Ali", who constantly referred to the purported "slave name" of his birth, had actually been originally named in honor of a prominent abolitionist who endured considerable personal suffering in that cause.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (noWW6)

260 242 Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (cgeHX)

Not "a people" it means "THE people" if you buy that.....

they get away with these bullshit semantic games in a way no Nazi or communist or Klansman can no matter how many degrees they have.

This bullshit schizoid public doublethink requires you grant their ethnic supremacy no other group gets if EUropean.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (g8Hfr)

261 which la raza was ofunded first? if the judges la raza, the good la raza, was founded second, why choose a name which is the same as the latino nazis?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (vb33c)

262 I wake up every day in a house that was built by dickheads.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (/f6Nd)

263 167 Every single time a jury comes to a verdict in a racially charged trial
that the media doesn't like, the media makes a special -- and frequent
-- note of the jury's ethnicity.

Posted by: ace

In fact, quite a few verdicts have been overturned because the appeals courts decided that the jury composition was too white, that blacks in particular were unfairly excluded.

Once upon a time, I was fired from a job and went to see a lawyer about it. He said he wanted the money up front, as I had no solid grounds for suing nor a good chance of winning. His reason?

I was a white male between the ages of 18 to 50. He said there is no special protection for someone like me. I was in the 'unprotected' class.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (gyKtp)

264 La Leche League
................

I'm fond of their helados.

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (HgMAr)

265 "Trump supporters were beaten in San Jose by illegals and the police department sat and watched."

Do we know they are illegals? Or are we just guessing. California has plenty of kooky left-wing Hispanic US citizens and gang bangers.

--
"The San Jose police chief also appears to be La Raza"

Armstrong & Getty lit up the mayor last week. Today was the police chief.

Maybe Trump is right to bring the ethnic issue up like that...force it to a boil.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (UBBWX)

266 Do you think the problems facing this country can be fixed by voting?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 05:05 PM (cgeHX)

Actually yes, but you got all these "people" who brag about protest votes and their great moral values and so maybe no. How's that for an answer?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (zp+j1)

267 Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:58 PM (dciA+)

Ace, you could be a big help and even have a lot of fun with this if you could just embrace the anti-establishment aspect of his whole candidacy.

If there ever was someone who could use explaining, it's Trump.

It's so refreshing to have someone like him who you know isn't going to knuckle under and apologize. Fuck the politically correct, Trump's coming through.

Grab a big handful of Trump and put your talents in line to be press secretary in the new administration. Get the mind-meld working and post a few sample speeches.

Know the Trump

Feel the Trump.

Be the Trump.

This is truly a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (Zs4uk)

268 Besides, as I keep saying, it's LITERALLY DONE ALL THE TIME. Whenever someone makes a ruling on a cop shooting the media doesn't like, they can't wait to tell you the juror or DA is WHITE.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

And I'm tired of these weak-tea "We Must Work to Shore Up the Credibility and Authority of our Political System" arguments.

Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace
...........
Who the fuck is talking about our political system.

This had not one fucking thing to do with our political system.

That the people Trump is calling out to defend his idiocy are part of the political establishment is purely coincidental.

Trump is going to lose millions on this case an he's scrambling for some reason to explain it. I don't blame Newt and the others one bit for calling out this nonsense.

As for calling out judges for race.. yes, it is done all the time.. but not by presidential contenders.. he could have at least left this up to a surrogate... but, no.. not Trump.. it is stream of consciousness 24/7 with him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (so+oy)

269
So, they say 'La Raza' means not 'the race,' but 'the community.'

So why don't they call themselves La Comunidad?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (lKyWE)

270 229: "
La Raza Lawyers claim they are just like any other lawyers group.

They say that La Raza doesn't mean "the race" but refers to Hispanics as a people. "

Golden. The group dates back to the Twenties and has weird New Age-elements as well as blatant racism. One of its tenets is "Reconquista," the forcible reunion of the American Southwest with Mexico because of spiritual as well as racial reason. It's anti-white and insane, not unlike Nation of Islam.

Again, Trump probably didn't have a clue about the La Raza connections when he decided to dirty up the judge (who likely is dirty, but that's beside the point). Not many are blessed with this much luck.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (/k03U)

271 243 Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

Who are you talking about?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:02 PM (rmw+9)

Certainly not me. I have none of the above. Certainly no servants, legal, illegal, alien, terrestrial, or otherwise.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (0mRoj)

272 I remember when Supreme Court nominees wore their Wise Latina Bias on their sleeve as a damn SELLING POINT.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (M0ddJ)

273
Yeah, right. And "Ku Kux Klan" means "the bowling league."

You should see our shirts!

Posted by: KKK Bowlers of America at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (IqV8l)

274 You know. All this Breast Feeding talk is gonna get us Nipple Cream ads.

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (6kxiP)

275 unless the white race is uniquely monstrous and evil and is simply so foul that they cannot think or say things that others can.

This is an axiomatic truth for the Left.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (vBeA5)

276 Trump is going to get called racist 24/7 anyway, may as well get it all out there.

If you name your org "La Raza" we all know what that means.

Posted by: brak at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (MJuTN)

277 If Trump wants to win this battle, he should refer to the racist organization la raza constantly.

Posted by: gm at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (yYQ1s)

278 "Apparently the "ends justifies the means" is now a thing on the right,
too. Great, just great. Where is the line with Trump? Is there anything
he could do that people would condemn? Or is it all OK because he has
the right enemies?"

it is OK because we are at war, we were attacked and we use all the means at our disposal now. capiche ?

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (c6/9Q)

279 Hell, I learned this afternoon on Fox that the WH has an office of "public outreach." I wonder what the little weasel running that makes?

They're doing some kind of "Immigrant Recognition Month" or something, and have all their Hollywood minions of various racial extractions tweeting pics of themselves.

How nice, on this day, of all days.

I didn't vote for this shit and damned sure don't want my taxes to pay for some Obamabot shitweasel sitting in a comfy WH office race mongering.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (1ZOkK)

280 Just like "Ein Volk" means "the people" and if they gave out ethnicity based scholarships based on german fluency, requiring blonde hair blue eyes and particular political views the Judge in question would be all

"si amigo ees good"
Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:03 PM (g8Hfr)

yep. with the difference being that the germans did not sneak across borders to wash dishes illegally, the came through the front door.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (vb33c)

281 Oh, didn't know he was a lawyer in addition to being police chief!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:04 PM (wYnyS)

No, silly, regular La Raza.

https://twitter.com/DefendingtheUSA/status/739546720179085312

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (7lVbc)

282 From the MALDEF entry at Discover the Networks:

"Advocates a path-to-citizenship for
illegal immigrants, lowered educational standards to accommodate
Hispanics, and voting rights for convicted felon"

Lowered educational standards to accommodate Hispanics? Voting rights for convicted felons?

Doesn't look like they hold a very high opinion of their kith and kin.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (oKE6c)

283 "which la raza was ofunded first? if the judges la raza, the good la raza, was founded second, why choose a name which is the same as the latino nazis?"

Ennnnnh, National Brewer's Associaion uses National same as National Socialists use Nationals.

The word may just be a word.

But there are some crazy Aztlan La Raza people. I think they have flown under the radar for far too long.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

284 question

if the board the judge was part of was not all about illegall aliens

then why does the scholarship board the judge in question sat on only give scholarships to hispanic students who are here ILLEGALLY

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (zOTsN)

285 La Leche League
........................

bolsas de mama

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (HgMAr)

286 >>Anyway, take your tranny daughter, your gay son, your hydrocodone habit, your fake titted trophy wife, your illegal alien servants, your mistress, and get the fuck out.

>Who are you talking about?

Those Bastards over at Left Twix.

Posted by: Right Twix Communications Director at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (6kxiP)

287 The San Jose police chief also appears to be La Raza

So a representative of the state believes the state is legally the property of another country.

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (OkKDg)

288 In re AtC's poll, it's become REALLY apparent that DC ( not the comics, but then again...) just do whatever the fuck they feel like. I look on them as a foreign occupying regime, that does not have my best interests in mind.
Sad when the Feds are something to be avoided or resisted, when possible.

Posted by: kraken at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (sdxPm)

289 264 La Leche League
................

I'm fond of their helados.
Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:06 PM (HgMAr)

I prefer las tetas, myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (0mRoj)

290 When did stereotyping someone as "probably not a Trump fan" become a racial slur up there with thinking someone is lazy, stupid, etc.?

F**king neocon cucks!

Posted by: An Alt-Righter at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (vBeA5)

291 Has Trump even mentioned the La Raza connection yet?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (rmw+9)

292 We're living in a Randian nightmare. I'm just waiting for Cuffy Meigs to show up and start shooting people.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (cgeHX)

293 They're doing some kind of "Immigrant Recognition Month" or something, and have all their Hollywood minions of various racial extractions tweeting pics of themselves.

Doesn't that take some of the spotlight off LGBT? pride month?

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (O2RFr)

294
And 'Jihad' means prayer or something.

Personal struggle. Like trying to quit smoking.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (IqV8l)

295
is nipple cream like vanishing cream?

Cartoons taught me that vanishing cream makes one invisible. Tom & Jerry, I think.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (kon7k)

296 No, silly, regular La Raza.

https://twitter.com/DefendingtheUSA/status/739546720179085312

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (7lVbc)
So the judge is in unleaded La Raza? Or decaf La Raza?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (oKE6c)

297 'A La Leche League of Their Own'

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (6kxiP)

298 Has Trump even mentioned the La Raza connection yet?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (rmw+9)

Yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:10 PM (zp+j1)

299
So nipple cream makes one grow a nipple.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:10 PM (kon7k)

300 I'm still wondering why all Universities aren't held to the same standard as Trump U. How can they not find any Barristas that were misled as to the earning potential of their Womens studies degree.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 06, 2016 05:10 PM (Mxs5H)

301
20,000 La Leche Leagues Under The Sea

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (kon7k)

302 285 La Leche League
........................

bolsas de mama
Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:09 PM (HgMAr)

What's mom's handbag got to do with this?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (0mRoj)

303 >>which la raza was ofunded first? if the judges la raza, the good la
raza, was founded second, why choose a name which is the same as the
latino nazis?

The La Raza Lawyer Assn was founded by Mario Obledo, the "godfather of the Latino Movement" in the US. He was all in when it came to creating organizations to *influence* US immigration law to allow more Latinos into the US, and to protect those who were already here (legally or illegally).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (NOIQH)

304 You know. All this Breast Feeding talk is gonna get us Nipple Cream ads.
Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 05:07 PM (6kxiP)
......................

as long as it's the king with rouge

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (HgMAr)

305 San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association
http://sdlrla.com/

Looking at their sidebar, what do we find? A link to National Counsel of La Raza. (sic)
http://www.nclr.org/

What is National Counsil of La Raza? That's the long name for La Raza. You know, that racist organization that has nothing to do with the judge.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (R+30W)

306 "yep. with the difference being that the germans did not sneak across borders to wash dishes illegally, the came through the front door."

There are probably illegal Germans. Many people come here on tourist visas and overstay.

The anti-illegal immigration crowd would be wise to not ignore them.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

307 So nipple cream makes one grow a nipple.

really?

An interested Tranny..

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (O2RFr)

308 Those Bastards over at Left Twix?

Left Twix?!!

I probably should just left certain threads just float on by because I have no idea what some of the comments mean.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (rmw+9)

309 kind

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (HgMAr)

310 What sort of judge would be acceptable? A judge that plans to vote for Trump would be biased, as would one that plans to vote against him.

Who dares judge Trump?

Posted by: person at June 06, 2016 05:11 PM (mFkVC)

311 Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (7lVbc)

My point was that surely the police chief would only belong to a benign force for good like the La Raza Lawyers "Guild", not the bad Reconquista La Raza!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (wYnyS)

312
Unrelated to anything we're talking about, anybody ever visit the Grand Tetons?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (kon7k)

313 276 Trump is going to get called racist 24/7 anyway, may as well get it all out there.
If you name your org "La Raza" we all know what that means.
Posted by: brak at June 06, 2016 05:08 PM (MJuTN)

We should demand that they change their name immediately, as it is racist and offensive.

Hey we've got that pitch too!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (oKE6c)

314 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (zp+j1)

315 312
Unrelated to anything we're talking about, anybody ever visit the Grand Tetons?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (kon7k)

No, but I've seen pictures.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (0mRoj)

316 "...men are no longer allowed to have men only clubs"

I am in one.
The last one.

Posted by: navybrat at June 06, 2016 05:13 PM (w7KSn)

317 >>How can they not find any Barristas that were misled as to the earning potential of their Womens studies degree.

OWS anyone?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2016 05:13 PM (NOIQH)

318 Yes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:10 PM (zp+j1)

Where? Pierson has mentioned it, but not Trump - unless you're trying to use his vague "he belongs to a society that is very pro-Mexican" gargling.

Posted by: person at June 06, 2016 05:13 PM (mFkVC)

319 I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel. He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers. Any membership is standard resume fluff.

Trump is losing his case because the university was a scam, not because the judge is biased.

Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (n5VsB)

320 Trump's whole run seems very Jimmy James-esque. If he wasn't married, I'd assume he'd be looking at prospective wives for VP.

That's right, that's a NewsRadio reference.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Cantankerous at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (326rv)

321

about that La Raza scholarship board

you only get to sit on those boards if you give ALOT of money

and they only give money to Illegal Alien movies

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (zOTsN)

322 Google translate from english to spanish:

The race: La raza

And from spanish to english:

La Raza: The race

Will the La Raza lawyers file suit against Google to correct this grave injustice of their name being mistranslated?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (T/cxb)

323 316 "...men are no longer allowed to have men only clubs"

I am in one.
The last one.
Posted by: navybrat at June 06, 2016 05:13 PM (w7KSn)

Man's Country?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (0mRoj)

324 My point was that surely the police chief would only belong to a benign force for good like the La Raza Lawyers "Guild", not the bad Reconquista La Raza!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:12 PM (wYnyS)

We should caption the San Jose riots as "This is what Reconquista looks like!"

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (7lVbc)

325 Do your own research

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (zp+j1)

326 >>>I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel. He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers. Any membership is standard resume fluff.

Trump is losing his case because the university was a scam, not because the judge is biased.

...

i imagine so, but "wrong" is not synonomous with "racist."

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (dciA+)

327 319 Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (n5VsB)

I know Bob Smith, he is just a little right like a lot of judges...

he is in the Klan but not the "burning cross in the front yard" Klan...

and that folks is how we have a wise Latina who is functionally retarded on SCotUS.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (g8Hfr)

328 so what does the snake thing on the judges la raza logo stand for?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (vb33c)

329 We're going to win based on winning because if you're a winner you can't help but win which is what we're going to do. So don't worry about winning because that's my plan and it's a fabulous plan.

who said the above:

A. Charlie Sheen

B. Donald Trump

C. Winner Mcwinnerface

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (KtcMg)

330 I shudder to think of all the readers and other websites that could be educated if Ace got on board the Trump Train.

Hell, we're a semi-influential force.

Feel the power of a Smart Military Blog, Bitches!

Posted by: jwest at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (Zs4uk)

331 "Will the La Raza lawyers file suit against Google to correct this grave injustice of their name being mistranslated?"

I hate to break the news, but Google Translate isn't that reliable.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (UBBWX)

332 I just want to be able to fight liberals, using the tools available to liberals.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (ptqRm)

333 I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel.
He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers.
Any membership is standard resume fluff.

Not good enough. He should be forced to resign from the organization, which should itself be demonized. Make the Left live up to its own rules.

Hell, who was it, Rick Perry (?) who was demonized because he drove past a rock that had the en-word spray painted on it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (oKE6c)

334 We should caption the San Jose riots as "This is what Reconquista looks like!"

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:15 PM (7lVbc)

"Make California like Sinaloa!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (wYnyS)

335 "I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel.
He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers.
Any membership is standard resume fluff.

Trump is losing his case because the university was a scam, not because the judge is biased."

so releasing internal company records is okey dokey ? in the interest of public good ?

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (c6/9Q)

336 324 My point was that surely the police chief would only belong to a benign force for good like the La Raza Lawyers "Guild", not the bad Reconquista La Raza!

The police, as an institution, are not necessarily on our side. Case in point.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (0mRoj)

337 Because I'm a giver...

http://tinyurl.com/hn4m2n8

Posted by: Kreplach at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (3Xxpy)

338 I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel. He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers. Any membership is standard resume fluff.

This sounds like Robert Byrd's reasons for being in the Klan.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (OkKDg)

339
"Make California like Sinaloa!"

Too late...

Posted by: donna at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (O2RFr)

340 Trump will almost certainly lose, and badly, so I guess there's no need to defend every stupid thing that comes vomiting out of his mouth.

I was mercifully in the woods and on a mountain the last few days and did not learn of this story until this morning.

My first thought was 'maybe it's true after all and he really doesn't want to be president'.

Maybe all a y'all have had more time to process it and rationalize the things, but doubling down doesn't sound like what someone who actually wants to win would do.

*PPPS: I know people are backfilling rationalizations. Oh the judge is affiliated with La Raza. Yes. Did Trump do that? No. He said "He's Mexican and I'm building a wall".

Which no, no you're not Donald. You're proposing a wall. This is the permanent state of delusion in Trump's mind. That whatever he thinks is in fact true.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (1xUj/)

341 Trump should have kept his mouth shut. But I think this may give me a reason to consider voting for him. I am sick and tired of all the nominations and appointments to the Supreme Court and lower courts based on gender and ethnicity. Female must be replaced by female; black by black, etc. Blow it all up.

Posted by: Mary at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (2ly7u)

342 332 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2016 05:16 PM (ptqRm)

Not at all, Wooga is okay with the Judge since he is "not crazy The Race just subtle the Race"

Time to burn the whole rotten edifice down, no more of this "well YOU whites have THESE rules and everyone else has THESE rules"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (g8Hfr)

343 "I know Judge Curiel. He's not a "reconquista" guy."

Your opinion only.

Fact:

Judge Gonzalo Curiel awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants in San Diego in 2014.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (zrrza)

344
Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (n5VsB)

So maybe you can answer this question.What was the judges reason for releasing the internal Trump U documents to the public? Is that unusual?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (lKyWE)

345 Boy. ace hit a nerve.

I can't keep up.

Thanks, Chocolate Messiah.

Posted by: Golfman - Conservative Refugee seeking asylum at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (48QDY)

346 "That's right, that's a NewsRadio reference.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Cantankerous at June 06, 2016 05:14 PM (326rv) "

So Trump is also D.B. Cooper? That sly fox!

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (kumBu)

347 "Trump is losing his case because the university was a scam, not because the judge is biased."

So, hey, let's glom my political issues onto it!

Hillary would do the same.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (UBBWX)

348 as far as an online university being a scam, those people voluntarily signed up for it. no one forced them, and if they thought that trump university would give them the same level of education as MIT or stanford...too bad.

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2016 05:18 PM (c6/9Q)

349 Could we maybe sell So Cal to Mexico? That would help pay for a wall.

Imagine the denizens of Hollyweird dealing with Mexican drug cartels, and the awesomeness of being Mexicans.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (1ZOkK)

350 That's right, that's a NewsRadio reference.

I guess Biden would be Andrew?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (OkKDg)

351 338 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (OkKDg)

Yup..."you have to understand Sven Byrd was in the Klan when EVERYONE was..."

so uh does everyone rise to the 3d highest regional post/rank in this terrorist organization or just some folks?

"Fuck you Sven"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (g8Hfr)

352 I'm sorry. I dozed off there for a moment.

Is this a thread about Trumps latest ludicrous missteps in his efforts to win the GOP nomination?

Or...

A thread about Trump's latests ludicrous missteps in his efforts to defeat the She-Hag?

How I respond is predicated on to what I'm responding.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (i2t8l)

353 I hate to break the news, but Google Translate isn't that reliable.

Posted by: Sexypig a>>>

I just tried Bing translate and Babelfish. Both give the same answer La Raza=The Race

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (Mxs5H)

354 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:17 PM (OkKDg)

Just a bunch of old friends that like to get together and reminisce!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (wYnyS)

355 Mexican milk is basically Two-Step in a Bottle.

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (HgMAr)

356 227 Fuck our political system. No political system worth saving needs so much work propping up its dubious legitimacy.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)

POINTS WILDLY

This.

Here's a poll for the Horde. Do you believe the current US political system, executive, legislative and judiciary, have the consent of the governed?

Because I sure as fuck don't.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (mf5HN)

I just voted in the California primary, and I can assure you that the ballot was absolute proof that the assholes in charge couldn't give less of a wet shit about my values. For the Senate seat being given up by Barbara Boxer, they have two Democrats and 37 Republicans, clowns, Peace-and-Freedom, Libertarians, and nutcases -- and they intend to put the top two candidates from the primary on the ballot in November. Can you say, "rigged"?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (EzgxV)

357 He said "He's Mexican and I'm building a wall".

NO he said he was of mexican "Heritage"...that is a rather large difference

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (zp+j1)

358 "Because I'm a giver... "

Her lips are all puffed and fake looking.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (ptqRm)

359 "Judge Gonzalo Curiel awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants in San Diego in 2014."

I hate to break the news to America, but California is MAJORITY Hispanic.

So, yeah, our legislature allows illegals to get driver's licenses, got to college, everything.

Giving them a scholarship seems way down the list of outrages.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (UBBWX)

360 so releasing internal company records is okey dokey ? in the interest of public good ?

Yes. Lawsuit discovery is generally public. You need a pretty good reason to keep stuff sealed. Trump U is not in business, so it had an even tougher time.

The judge in the Clinton case was wrong to seal. Curiel was right to keep it open.

Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (n5VsB)

361 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:19 PM (OkKDg)

Did you mean Matthew?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (KtcMg)

362
All this hand-wringing because Trump broke the Left's speechcode.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (kon7k)

363 'He said "He's Mexican and I'm building a wall".

NO he said he was of mexican "Heritage"...that is a rather large difference'

Can we get a definite answer on this?

I have seen it both ways in print, but the one clip, Trump added heritage which is mucho bettero.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (UBBWX)

364 The specifics of the issue here is not the point. The point is to punch back and by politicizing issues generally, make the Left - and most especially, businesses - wary of getting involved in controversies, for fear of being demonized.

You know, the way we get demonized all the time.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (oKE6c)

365 "I hate to break the news, but Google Translate isn't that reliable."
................

Yeah, how did I get "mommy bags" when Insomniac got "mom's handbag"?

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (HgMAr)

366 Ok then, the science is settled, Trump will lose badly to Hillary, meaning a vengeful sociopath will have all power (well, along with her demented, twisted sycophants).
That being established, does everyone have their survival plan in place? Yes? Because it looks like the End of the World as We Know it has arrived.
Any good ideas to share?

Posted by: kraken at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (sdxPm)

367 The judge is a card carrying member of MALDEF, the legal arm of La Raza (The Race), you know, the ones with Mexican flags, burning US flags and beating up innocent Trump supporters. He is not just "Mexican".

Posted by: oddnot says ~sigh~ at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (g1MTt)

368
I hate to break the news to America, but California is MAJORITY Hispanic.

So, yeah, our legislature allows illegals to get driver's licenses, got to college, everything.

Giving them a scholarship seems way down the list of outrages.

This is a pathetic rationale.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (kon7k)

369 "Judge Gonzalo Curiel awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants in San Diego in 2014.
"

Rut Row.........

Well, maybe they were illegal immigrants from Korea, or Saigon.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (ptqRm)

370
Did you mean Matthew?

Crap, yeah. Andy Dick, switched the names.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (OkKDg)

371 >>Her lips are all puffed and fake looking.

Did they leak Huma's testimony, already?

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (6kxiP)

372 I could be wrong but I think New Jersey gives in state tuition to illegals for state universities

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (3wHFl)

373 "Yes. Lawsuit discovery is generally public. You need a pretty good
reason to keep stuff sealed. Trump U is not in business, so it had an
even tougher time.

The judge in the Clinton case was wrong to seal. Curiel was right to keep it open."

like...trade secrets to some would constitute a good enough reason...but not to this judge and not in this case

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (c6/9Q)

374 WSJ

In an interview, Mr. Trump said U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had an absolute conflict in presiding over the litigation given that he was of Mexican heritage and a member of a Latino lawyers association. Mr. Trump said the background of the judge, who was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrants, was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern U.S. border. Im building a wall. Its an inherent conflict of interest, Mr. Trump said.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (zp+j1)

375 "Trump will almost certainly lose, and badly, so I guess there's no need to defend every stupid thing that comes vomiting out of his mouth."

You are always wrong so why listen to your opinion?

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (zrrza)

376 368 Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (kon7k)

They're not "felony felonies"

Fuck this break the country up...

If I had wanted to live in Juarez I would have moved there when I was stationed at Ft Bliss.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (g8Hfr)

377 "I know Judge Curiel. He's not a 'reconquista' guy. He leans slightly
left, like most lawyers. Any membership is standard resume fluff."

Sure, and for a white judge to have links to an organization which refers to whites as "The Race" (with the definite article) and which has called for an armed revolutionary movement to sever multiple states from the Union would be just considered "standard resume fluff" for such a judge, amirite?

Posted by: torquewrench at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (noWW6)

378 The judge in the Clinton case was wrong to seal. Curiel was right to keep it open.
Posted by: wooga

how convenient that it worked out that way.

Posted by: x at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (nFwvY)

379 365 "I hate to break the news, but Google Translate isn't that reliable."
................

Yeah, how did I get "mommy bags" when Insomniac got "mom's handbag"?
Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:21 PM (HgMAr)

Because la bolsa refers to a purse or handbag, despite the more generic direct translation of "bag."

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (0mRoj)

380 Trump has caused an epidemic of sandy vaginas.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (B48dK)

381 Posted by: oddnot says ~sigh~ at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (g1MTt)

Si ese, but what can you expect in a profession dominated by #WhitePrivilege?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (wYnyS)

382 You are always wrong so why listen to your opinion?

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:23 PM (zrrza)

Why comment on the site then, if it is so worthless?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (3ZoRf)

383 \

hahaha

illegal alien students

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (zOTsN)

384 NO he said he was of mexican "Heritage"...that is a rather large difference

He started out saying "he's Mexican". Mexican heritage was backfilling.

Still, to my point, he didn't say anything about La Raza or political affiliations, he just said "you can't trust this guy because I'm building a Mexican wall in my fevered brain pan and this guy's family used to be Mexican",

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (1xUj/)

385 Por la raza todo, fuera la raza nada.

Posted by: @votermom at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (7lVbc)

386 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (mpXpK)

387 I hate to break the news, but Google Translate isn't that reliable.

You have a more reliable source that translates back and forth as something different?

I also tried:

dictionary.com
spanishdict.com
translation2.paradict.com

They all confirm "La Raza" translates as "The Race". Are they all wrong as well?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (T/cxb)

388 I converse with some foreigners (Argentina for one) and am told Google translation isn't perfect.

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (3wHFl)

389 381 Posted by: oddnot says ~sigh~ at June 06, 2016 05:22 PM (g1MTt)

Si ese, but what can you expect in a profession dominated by #WhitePrivilege?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (wYnyS)

Shit. If that were true, I wouldn't be unemployed right now.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (0mRoj)

390 I can't find the post which mentioned this, but if Sonia Sotomayor was functionally retarded she wouldn't have passed law school or the bar. Because someone has politics one disagrees with it doesn't make them functionally retarded.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (rmw+9)

391 "Well, maybe they were illegal immigrants from Korea, or Saigon."

Illegal is illegal and he is an officer of the court, one sworn to uphold the constitution and is rewarding law breakers.

He can't be trusted to treat legal citizens fairly.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:25 PM (zrrza)

392 So, yeah, our legislature allows illegals to get driver's licenses, got to college, everything.

____________

Hell, they get free tuition at the University of California.

Meanwhile California-resident whites and especially Asians with 2X higher SAT scores are rejected, so they don't even get a chance to pay the tuition (even the in-state tuition is now hefty).

Why do they get rejected? Because UC wants that good good overseas full tuition (and boy, do they sock it to 'em), so the children of California residents can go hang.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 06, 2016 05:26 PM (oKE6c)

393 "I'm a San Diego lawyer with ties to the courts. I know Judge Curiel. He's not a "reconquista" guy. He leans slightly left, like most lawyers. Any membership is standard resume fluff."

Slightly left? This guy is helping illegal aliens financially. He's not just in support of amnesty, he is helping it along.
Look, I don't like Trump at all, but this judge is a flaming lefty and not pro-America in any sense.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 06, 2016 05:26 PM (0x/TW)

394 Your opinion only.

And your counter is based on what? the raza lawyer association? Lawyers are routinely part of tons of associations, because lawyering is all about networking and glad handing. A successfully lawyer usually owes more to social skills than legal skills.

Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:26 PM (n5VsB)

395 I hear LA Raza is The Race everywhere, if it wasn't someone would have brought it up by now.

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2016 05:27 PM (3wHFl)

396 Judge Gonzalo Curiel awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants in San Diego in 2014."

I hate to break the news to America, but California is MAJORITY Hispanic.

So, yeah, our legislature allows illegals to get driver's licenses, got to college, everything.

Giving them a scholarship seems way down the list of outrages.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (UBBWX)

if the branch of La Raza the judge was associated with was about all Hispanics

then WHY did they give scholarships ONLY to ILLEGAL ALIENS

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 05:27 PM (zOTsN)

397 Still, to my point, he didn't say anything about La Raza or political affiliations, he just said "you can't trust this guy because I'm building a Mexican wall in my fevered brain pan and this guy's family used to be Mexican",
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 06, 2016 05:24 PM (1xUj/)

Again not true, in the same WSJ article he is quoted as saying " a member of a Latino lawyers association"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 06, 2016 05:27 PM (zp+j1)

398 233
You cannot impune a judge because of their ethnicity! It calls into question our entire judicial system and 200 plus years of precedent.

Donald - the judge is an American.. born in Indiana.. drop it you fucking retard.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
---------------------
And this is my point -
Why is he bringing up "Mexican?"
He's a RADICAL Mexican La Raza member! THAT'S what you rail about, dammit. Can't you wrap your Good Brain around that? A federal judge with that kind of connection? Sitting on your case? This should've been a feature for The One, not a bug.
Posted by: Chi at June 06, 2016 05:00 PM (hp+aF)
-----------------------------------
THIS and THIS.

He says "Mexican" instead of "La Raza radical bigot" because he is an a-hole.... and a LOSER.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 06, 2016 05:28 PM (T/5A0)

399 394 Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:26 PM (n5VsB)

"The Race"....

funded an illegal in scholarship....

yeah exemplary character, thank God we have him.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:28 PM (g8Hfr)

400 So Hillary! is more of the generic direct translation.

Posted by: wth at June 06, 2016 05:28 PM (HgMAr)

401 Sitting here at Mom's house scanning AoS HQ, trying to distract myself from the medication/behavior timeline regarding Dad that my brotwwwher just presented to me (but hasn't told Mom about yet).

While yes, Dad xwas inhabiting another planet mentally his last 18 months, he was strong as an ox, up and about and very active during that time.

He went from that to nearly comatose and sitting in his own waste for hours at a time, and oddly fully qualified to be moved from a geropsych ward to a new assisted living place, within 12 hours of the geropsych ward being advised by Medicare that they would no longer pay for his geropsych facility stay.

From there It was only a couple weeks of catatonia to kidney failure and death.

Brother and I are taking a very long, deep breath for a couple of weeks until after the Memorial Service on June 20, and then I do believe the Shit is Going to Hit the Fan.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 06, 2016 05:28 PM (KNAVF)

402 this judge is a flaming lefty and not pro-America in any sense.

Wow, this is some serious delusion going on. Keep it up with the conspiracy echo chamber. Flaming lefty? Find some opinions of his where he has ruled in any sort of improper fashion.

Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:29 PM (n5VsB)

403 And your counter is based on what? the raza lawyer association? Lawyers are routinely part of tons of associations, because lawyering is all about networking and glad handing. A successfully lawyer usually owes more to social skills than legal skills.

Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:26 PM (n5VsB)

he sat on the board that g ave out scholarships ONLY to illegal aliens

that tells me two things

1. He was a BIG DONOR and thats why he got to sit on the selection board, and

2. ITS ALL ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS FOR HIM

Posted by: ThunderB at June 06, 2016 05:29 PM (zOTsN)

404
Trump will almost certainly lose, and badly, so I guess there's no need to defend every stupid thing that comes vomiting out of his mouth.

Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

Posted by: Oddball at June 06, 2016 05:29 PM (RcpcZ)

405
I just like seeing the liberals running around like their heads were on fire and their asses a catchin'.

Posted by: Ripley at June 06, 2016 05:30 PM (1BQGO)

406 Oh, the law firm against Trump (Robbins, Geller et al.) is a yuuuuge 'Rat donor, over $600,000. I'd like to see contributions to MALDEF. Oh, that's right, confidential (unless you're against gay marriage in which the IRS will pass donor info on to the far left to publish).

Posted by: oddnot says ~sigh~ at June 06, 2016 05:30 PM (g1MTt)

407 "Giving them a scholarship seems way down the list of outrages."

God, that's a pathetic rational of a cucked idiot.

The guy was already f'ing my wife so I find no harm in him eating my food afterwards.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:30 PM (zrrza)

408 When the Hispanics jumped on the race bus to get freebies, they bought this.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at June 06, 2016 05:30 PM (CtpOG)

409 360 >> The judge in the Clinton case was wrong to seal. Curiel was right to keep it open.

Posted by: wooga

Okay, then why did he reseal some of the records?

I'll answer the question myself. Because he was wrong to unseal them all, and had to backtrack.

So then the question becomes 'Why did he unseal them all, when that was the wrong thing to do?'

I'll let you take this one.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 06, 2016 05:30 PM (gyKtp)

410 402 Posted by: wooga at June 06, 2016 05:29 PM (n5VsB)

Being in favor of open borders and abetting illegal aliens in overloading our system is pretty anti-American.

Fuck him, and his defenders.

What laws PRECISELY do I get to ignore as a native born American citizen counselor?

I may as well monetize this lawlessness like the "newer better Americans" are.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 05:32 PM (g8Hfr)

411
No, no puede!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 06, 2016 05:32 PM (iQIUe)

412 I will not abide a feminist judge at a child/spousal support hearing. Being "feminist" doesn't mean you want equality - it means you think that all women are disadvantaged in all things in society, and thus, it is MEN doing the harm. So logically, to create equality, the man must be robbed of rights or benefits and the woman rewarded. You side with the woman in all matters because of this "systemic" imbalance that YOU can "fix".

If you actually don't do that, if you actually cared about equality, you would be an "equalist", concerned about the ACTUAL people in the given case, and not the plight of the gender.

To expose this, I must act as a "masculinist" who also supports "equality" by siding with men.

Same applies here to the Mexicano judge - he already belongs to at least one legal group that rallies behind identity politics (La Raza, the race). Imagine if the Judge belonged to "White Pride".

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at June 06, 2016 05:34 PM (i6shs)

413
Is the judge a Wise Latino?

Posted by: ArthurK at June 06, 2016 05:37 PM (h53OH)

414 Playboy Mansion sells for over $100million to neighbor, 32, who is heir to a billion-dollar fortune and spent $18million in 2009 on the pad next door

============
Hef still gets to live on a couple of floors until he kicks the bucket. Original asking price was $200 mil. They dont give the exact price of sale. Not sure why you would want the geezer to continue living there.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 06, 2016 05:38 PM (iQIUe)

415 #20 IIRC the judge ddn't unseal the documents until Trump starting attacking him, not the other way around.

Trump's supporters are being beaten in the,streets but he reserves the bulk of his wrath for the judge who might hit him in his wallet. Imagine what's going to happen to the banks that hold his paper If he's elected.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 06, 2016 05:38 PM (o3OKG)

416 >>>Hef still gets to live on a couple of floors until he kicks the bucket. Original asking price was $200 mil. They dont give the exact price of sale. Not sure why you would want the geezer to continue living there.

there's a name for this arrangement, tip of my tongue, can't remember it. "Life estate?"

as to why you'd want him -- you wouldn't. You accept having him there until he dies for a discount on the price. You're basically wagering he'll die early, and he's wagering he'll die later.

Posted by: ace at June 06, 2016 05:40 PM (dciA+)

417 As customers of mainstream media, we have every right to complain about editorial bias against us, and if (and this is obviously a big "if") any particular media outlet wants us to regard them highly as a source, they will in theory be responsive to this concern, as FaceBook is at least pretending to be. However, as an abstract moral argument, what claim do we have on a non-biased media when we're putting out extremely biased tabloid garbage like FOX News and Drudge? As the market has shown, almost nobody on the right wants an unbiased media, they want a very biased media in their favor (and this is of course true of any partisan faction). If we really want war with our cultural colonizers on the left, what is this pussy shit of complaining about how unfair everyone treats us that Trump and his supporters keep doing again and again? What kind of cuck faggot battlecry is "They're being UNFAIR to me! They're so biased!"? Fairness is leftist concept, and they are Vichy Republicans who take up its banner.

As someone for whom conservatism actually meant something a few short months ago, nobody who has sterile, nearly free drinking water on tap 24/7 has any business complaining about fairness. Forgive me for sticking with the effete writers and academics who understand that concept over the "No fair, men should get the liberal grab-bag goodies that women get!" MRAs or the "No fair, Jews have all the money and influence and white people should get the liberal goodies that minorities get!" white nationalists, or the "No fair, the judicial system is so mean to my team of high paid attorneys on retainer!" mega-millionaire boy king.

Posted by: reform highlander at June 06, 2016 05:40 PM (jCH/T)

418 The question presented, of course, being whether to raise a stink about Medicare death panels and elder abuse and drag Mom through more years of pain and exhaustion, or keep it to ourselves and just let her heal and finally move on with her life after 5 years of watching her husband of 58 years suffer and ultimately die.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 06, 2016 05:47 PM (KNAVF)

419 I just voted in the California primary, and I can assure you that the ballot was absolute proof that the assholes in charge couldn't give less of a wet shit about my values. For the Senate seat being given up by Barbara Boxer, they have two Democrats and 37 Republicans, clowns, Peace-and-Freedom, Libertarians, and nutcases -- and they intend to put the top two candidates from the primary on the ballot in November. Can you say, "rigged"?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 06, 2016 05:20 PM (EzgxV)

California now has a "blanket", or "top two" primary system for Congressional and statewide offices. It was passed via Proposition 14 in 2010. The idea was that limiting ballot access to major parties was dampening competitive races; in places where one party was uncompetitive people who didn't like the incumbent from either party would just stay home. In practice, in noncompetitive districts the top two vote-getters always end up being from the leading party. Minor parties especially have complained, as now the Libertarians and Greens have no shot at the ballot.

Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 06, 2016 05:49 PM (XiVKO)

420 For those who don't know, in a blanket primary every candidate from all parties run together, and the top two finishers, irrespective of party, move on to the general.

Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 06, 2016 05:51 PM (XiVKO)

421 Your opinion only.

"And your counter is based on what? the raza lawyer association? Lawyers are routinely part of tons of associations, because lawyering is all about networking and glad handing. A successfully lawyer usually owes more to social skills than legal skills."

My analysis is based on his actions, as fact. Rewarding hispanic illegals with scholarships. Rewarding law breaking and only to hispanics.

Your opinion is based on bullshit he spews to people he wants to manipulate - glad handing, social skills.

Posted by: Fuq the media at June 06, 2016 05:52 PM (zrrza)

422 #111 Ace, Hillary is an evil scrunt, consumed by ambition and vindictiveness, but she's not stupid enough to pies off a judge she is standing before. Trump lacks even that much discipline and self-control.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 06, 2016 05:55 PM (o3OKG)

423 Trump has missed the opportunity to paint Hillary as crooked because he has fone AWOL from the campaign for the last two weeks. Crazy decision.

Trump has not organized a national campaign, instead relying on the RNC. Hilarious- the GOPe is supposed to save this sinking ship? Holy moly.

He has missed the chance to unify his rivals. Cruz, Rubio, etc should be unified is support. Instead they are hiding, even though Rubio has endorsed. No one is out campaigning for Trump. Bizarre.

I believe the country does not want to elect Hillary to anything more than SuperMax book distributer. Trump has to at least put up a fight though, and campaign. So far, he hasn't.

Posted by: MTF at June 06, 2016 06:16 PM (/m8T6)

424 Is it the judge's Mexican heritage, or his membership in the racist group La Raza that is the problem with his impartiality?

Posted by: Malaking Baboy at June 06, 2016 06:18 PM (Qo4uY)

425 424 Posted by: Malaking Baboy at June 06, 2016 06:18 PM (Qo4uY)

Would the judge be in La Raza is his last name was McGill?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 06, 2016 06:22 PM (g8Hfr)

426 I've been in front of various judges in my 15ish years of legal practice. The vast majority (I'd say 85%) make rulings based on their own agendas and their own biases. You can look at it from a human nature standpoint or a corruption standpoint but i can safely say if you are hoping a judge will rule on things solely based on the law, you are fooling yourself.

Posted by: Are we still doing phrasing at June 06, 2016 07:29 PM (aDpzg)

427 So ... are you telling me we're NOT voting our way out of this ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 06, 2016 08:06 PM (fiGNd)

428 What did you expect from a German leader except attacks on individuals and a rally to call the mob to help him.

What?

OH, sorry, the "Mexican" Judge's family has been American longer than Trump's... so clearly Trump is German by the same rationale.

And since we can determine Mexicans are untrustworthy due to stereotypes; than stereotypes about German leaders would also be entirely reasonable; wouldn't they?

Hey, support the German who wants to attack anyone who dares dissent if you want.
But lets not pretend I'm doing anything worse than you are by saying this.

Posted by: gekkobear at June 06, 2016 09:31 PM (0p8Lv)

429 "Trump will probably lose," Ace you have shown yourself to be totally pathetic. Please remind me again of how Romney is going to win once the "preference cascade" kicks in. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaha!

Posted by: Billygoatpuke at June 07, 2016 01:09 AM (l5QMI)

430 The judge belongs to a lawyer's association whose stated purpose is of discrimination based on race. When someone can point out that Trump belongs to a real estate association whose stated purpose is of discrimination based on race then I will assume that Trump is just as much a racist as the judge is.

Posted by: doug at June 07, 2016 12:24 PM (Y7fRE)

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