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A Conversation That Sort of Took Place Today
Ruy Texiera, 1992: The "browning of America" guarantees an unbreakable, unshakable Democratic majority forever more, because Hispanics lean Democratic.
GOP Chattering Classes: Yes, alas.
GOP Consultant Post-Mortem, 2012: The GOP cannot win without Hispanics, and it cannot win Hispanics without agreeing to some kind of amnesty. Amnesty is critically important to Hispanics, and without amnesty, you can write off their support forever.
GOP Chattering Classes: Indeed! We must have amnesty no matter what.
Marco Rubio Supporters, 2015: Hispanics are hostile to the GOP and the only way to soften their opposition is to nominate a Hispanic boy who likes water and grandpas and mass amnesty for illegals.
GOP Chattering Classes: Took the words right out of our mouths.
#NeverTrumpers, a week ago: You're insane to have nominated Trump -- Hispanics hate him, and therefore he will be blown out in an election.
GOP Chattering Classes: Preaching to the choir, baby.
Donald Trump, this week: This judge is biased against me because he's Hispanic and I'm anti-amnesty.
GOP Chattering Classes: It's so racist to brand an ethnic group politically like that!!!
BTW: I'm not really sure that accusing a minority of having a Democratic bias is really one of the classic racial slurs. I consider racial slurs things like calling someone lazy, stupid, greedy, whatever because of race.
Not accusing someone of most likely having a particular political bent.
Which isn't racism -- it's fucking basic campaign modeling. GOP and Democratic campaign turnout models both assume that Hispanic voters will be something like 65-75% pro-Democrat.
It cannot be racist to say what everyone calculates in their fucking turnout models.
BTW: I'm waiting for the gnashing of teeth over the Democrats' sixty billionth pronouncement that we need Wise Latinas to bring their particular and unique political perspectives to the court.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (fiGNd)
OT-ish:
Levin is now completely teeing off on the rioters yesterday. He is not a fan of Trump, but he is dead balls on about the rioters. As we are.
Wow, he's incandescent.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (Ozsfq)
Who then? A Southerner or a black man me thinks.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (gNgyc)
Posted by: GOP Chattering Classes at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (zUs0s)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (VGG67)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (p4UlV)
He's gonna have a stroke on air one day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (1ZOkK)
//Donkey U
Ah fuck it, what this trump kerfuffle is REALLY about underneath it all is the Democrats essentially codifying overt tactic racism as acceptable so long as it is from THEIR client classes.
We've lost this fight lads, and by lost I mean "were shot in the back of the head by the GOP"
What it means is we get our heads kicked in for 20-400 years until genuine Balkanization takes over.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (LAe3v)
3 For example, the GOPe chattering class identifies with the "drooling, corrupt morons" tribe.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (LAe3v)
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Back so soon?????
Did you ever go back and apologize to NGU over the La Raza not really La Raza links on their pages??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: redenzo at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (WCnJW)
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Truth is no excuse.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (LAe3v)
Friday. And as a long time listener, I can verify that he is really furious. More than I have heard in a while.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (p4UlV)
For example, the GOPe chattering class identifies with the "drooling, corrupt morons" tribe.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (LAe3v)
Speaking as a drooling Moron, I'm offended to be called "corrupt" or to be associated with anything "chattering".
*storms off in a huff*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LuZz8)
Of course it can be. You're just supposed to pretend that it isn't, or that it doesn't happen, in order to maintain the lie that they aren't racist.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LUG6K)
Hope he does, but...
Posted by: Golfman at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (LAe3v)
Does that mean we have to put bones through our noses? I hope not. Too hipster for my taste.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: MSM at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (FohCt)
Did you ever go back and apologize to NGU over the La Raza not really La Raza links on their pages??
Posted by: fixerupper
Nope. Never went away. If you make an assertion and refuse to back it up, that's on you.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
But it seems the tree of fascist oppression is gulping it down by the gallons these days.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (Dj0WE)
Maria Molina can Anschluss me any day.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
Brother, I have seen some Argentinian women that are just incredible.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (p4UlV)
A lot of things need to be aired out. It is our unfortunate that Donald J. Trump is our vehicle to do so.
We needed someone like Trump, not Trump. But he's better than all the other Shits we had to choose from. Yes, all of them. They were all weaklings.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (jK3b3)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
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He posted the fucking link.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
Bullshit..I told him where to find it..I am not his daddy doing his homework.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (LUG6K)
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (eG5Q2)
Posted by: pookysgirl at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (K27gs)
A secret handshake will suffice, my good man.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (+wjl1)
The "divided loyalty" horseshit is as regular as clock work for a Jew.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (jK3b3)
THIS.
I think you nailed the situation perfectly. And yet here we are. You fight with the army you got, not the one you wish you had.
That said, the next battle will be with Trump himself if he goes in the direction I fear he will. But that for later.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (p4UlV)
But, yes. DC is rife with Republican consultants running around with crap stats saying we need the "Hispanic Vote", "Don't be Mean", and "SoccerMoms, OMG".
All their crap is without rigor and poorly performs in actual elections -- but, its a paycheck for them.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (Doh4+)
Maria Molina can Anschluss me any day.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
Brother, I have seen some Argentinian women that are just incredible.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (p4UlV)
There was a Venezulan exchange student at my high school. Hottest girl I'd ever laid eyes on.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (LAe3v)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (p4UlV)
I beg to differ. Cowboys and You Other Fvckers is just getting started. Seriously. Teams ain't even picked yet.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (fiGNd)
Again, assertion requires proof. I saw his question. You declined to prove it. That's on you.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (LAe3v)
..............
I say nominate someone who likes sombreros, siestas and cervezas.
Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (hTqVx)
Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (sdxPm)
And that was all?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (C9pBZ)
Afraid so. Way out of my league. Not even the same galaxy.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (0mRoj)
Which means something else is bothering you, not some brain addled granny who coulda made a mint by selling her tenement.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (ZnIt3)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (g8Hfr
Got room on the north forty for a Carolina Moron or 3?
Posted by: Golfman at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (48QDY)
The US is going to fracture in my lifetime and likely break up.
I used to be deeply bothered, now I am excited.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (g8Hfr)
Like Democrats are all sub-moron simians that pick lice of each others heads, and pick corn kernels out of their own crap for after dinner snacks?
Surely, being called a Democrat must be high praise, no?
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (jLXo8)
I haaaate it.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (LAe3v)
Come on. Somebody else put the puzzle together for him and he subsequently found it himself. In a rational world, that would be the end of it. Just sayin'
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (LAe3v)
What are you stupid? I have lead him by hand like a 5 year old because he does not know who to use google? Everyone else found it? I am sick and tired of people to stupid or lazy to do any research and then continue to spout ignorance like chemjeff does about eminent domain.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (Ozsfq)
I prefer to pick a trust-based civilization. This will require expelling the tribal barbarians.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (jLXo8)
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It's the German ancestry.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM
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Mostly Italian and Spanish, some German.
It is one of the whitest countries on earth actually.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (T/5A0)
tribalism does seem to be the way we're going.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (LAe3v)
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And if we fucking HALT the immigration for a period of assimilation, we can reverse that trend.
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (pC96u)
I'll know within a half decade where Palatial 10077 estates will be.
Probably here, Ohio, or the Ark-La-Tex...
I want Alberta but wife is no joy on it.
When I have secured the land I will have a massive bbq for rons and ettes.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (g8Hfr)
We are on the brink of being silenced for good.
When someone outspoken comes along and reminds The People they have the right to speak their minds, it's a damn good thing.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (jK3b3)
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (LAe3v)
Always kinda wondered about that. You see, I'm that a-hole who usually chats up the hot...women. Drives most guys I know nuts.
C'est la vie.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (4ng05)
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I think I found the flaw in your argument.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Golfman at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (48QDY)
I'll leave this here: seprepnet.com
Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (6Ll1u)
Chin Up Buttercup ...
... the ScoggSven Confederate Park might be cool.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (fiGNd)
Who then? A Southerner or a black man me thinks.
Tim Scott? Doubt it.
All signs point to Katshit. Trump owes him, he makes Ohio easier to win, and he's a bridge to the Establishment... as well as a despicable weasel.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (3wHFl)
You don't have to build a wall. Just redeploy most of the army along the southern border and rotate units every 6 months or so. Desert warfare training and border security at the same time.
Also, cut off the bennies and nullify the sanctuary cities.
QED
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (p4UlV)
I think I found the flaw in your argument.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (8XRCm)
Crap. It was right there, all along.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (jLXo
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News flash, Ghandi.
Its human nature. We're ALL tribal barbarians to one degree or another.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (8XRCm)
All signs point to Katshit. Trump owes him, he makes Ohio easier to win, and he's a bridge to the Establishment... as well as a despicable weasel.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (uOtyQ)
Hoping for Jeff Sessions, but fear it's Tevye the Mailman's grandson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Ben Howe's Third Chin at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (sy1YT)
Posted by: Dang at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (/77HP)
He's our horse, because we have no other.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (Doh4+)
The US is going to fracture in my lifetime and likely break up.
I used to be deeply bothered, now I am excited.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (g8Hfr)
Yep. Used to think this was crazy, pessimism. Not anymore. It's already happened, just not formally and openly. Funny that it's breaking big city vs all else. If shit ever get really real, I'd prefer to be all else.
Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (uOtyQ)
G-d would not do that to us.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (4ng05)
Well after La Raza successfully Reconquistas the SW what legal precedent will there be to keep Ohio et al from leaving?
I say go with Plan B the GOP is useless as a political force for a society that demands its tribalism be its creed IMHO.
Join the mules, nominate the craziest fuckers you can in primaries.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (g8Hfr)
So, when violence and tyranny are committed against us and we react with anger and revulsion, somehow that is morally equivalent to our victimizers and tormenters?
Nope. Not buying that one at all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (p4UlV)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7awrgl
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (WlGX+)
Not sure it will reflect so good on him when Cleveland OH erupts in flames during the convention.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (Ozsfq)
Old & busted: Wise Latina
New Hot Shit: Wise Gay
Future Hot Shit: Wise Transgendered
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (rJOC2)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (4ng05)
See: 2008 + 2012
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (p4UlV)
I guess I should ask Joe Kennedy if he's still handing out cheap Venezuelan crude as a way of supporting the almost commies.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (ZnIt3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (p4UlV)
Cotton would buy him virtually all of the refugees from the Republican party.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (4ng05)
Guaranteed election loss!
Say it ain't so!
I can vote for Trump but I can't go that far.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (gNgyc)
That's the funny part. I get a bit looked down on (you want overt racism? Go to SA. Any country) until they find out where I'm from...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (C9pBZ)
I honestly believe the only hope for liberty lies in crack-up of the USA as currently configured. Fortunately, both Hillary and Trump have the potential to accelerate this outcome.
All empires begin as revolutions and end in dissolution.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (p4UlV)
We were bad. We were being punished. We're better now.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (Doh4+)
Exactly where we've been every friggin' cycle except 80 and 84.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (4ng05)
We've done Our penance!
Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ever at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (QZdJj)
Its human nature. We're ALL tribal barbarians to one degree or another. "
Not really. Trust-based civilizations are just that. Trust based. Loan your lawnmower to a civilized person, and you will get it back. Loan it to a member of a tribal culture, and you will never see it again.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (4ng05)
What have we done for Him lately?
Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (Doh4+)
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And there are the class divisions and, let's face it, racial ones. And the difference between chicanos who have lives here for ages and the illegals.
The best way to approach the "Hispanic" vote is to stop pretending there is such a thing. Really.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (T/5A0)
Cotton would buy him virtually all of the refugees from the Republican party.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (4ng05)
For excoriating Hairy Reid, he deserves at least that much. But I think Reid and Trump are friends.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (Ozsfq)
Ohio is the old Gope model's version of the holy grail. Gopey types WISH Trump would adopt the old Gope model.
Maybe he will. But I doubt it. When the riots occur this summer (or I should say, get worse), the realignment will look a lot clearer to us than it does now.
In other words, I can easily see Trump winning Ohio, and also, not NEEDING to win Ohio.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: The Scorpion at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (s5o+q)
"I've never asked for more than I deserved . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Ritchie Valenzuela at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (8XRCm)
Katshit - brings Ohio and PA
Webb - brings VA and PA
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (ucB75)
Old & busted: Wise Latina
New Hot Shit: Wise Gay
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (rJOC2)
Future hot shit: Wise Pedophile
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (v0YLX)
See: 2008 + 2012
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (p4UlV)
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See: 2016
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (pC96u)
QED
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (p4UlV)
Actually enforce the existing law which makes Knowingly aiding and abetting an Illegal to stay in the US a felony.
Posted by: Don Q at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (qf6WZ)
"I'm a racist, your a racist, wouldn't you like to be a racist too!?"
They're wearing it out.
Posted by: willy at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (Ffw22)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (p4UlV)
Carrying the anti-Trump message to its logical conclusion: Trump was only using him.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Ever at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (QZdJj)
This is dangerous. Because if we do nothing, then it will get worse. And I recoil from doing anything because it's against my nature. But if we wait until it's too late then, well, it's too late.
Very conflicted as well as angry and fearful.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (p4UlV)
Actually enforce the existing law which makes Knowingly aiding and abetting an Illegal to stay in the US a felony.
Posted by: Don Q at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (qf6WZ)
Yeah, I meant to include that. Nice assist.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (p4UlV)
He's Neidermeyer. Which, interestingly enough, spellcheck wants to change to spidermonkey.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:25 PM (rwI+c)
(you want overt racism? Go to SA. Any country) until they find out where
I'm from...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:19 PM (C9pBZ)
Oh Yeah, I spent a lot of time in Brazil, "Where there is no rascism!" -- because the darker people like working in the sun all day, they have the skin for it, they want to be poor - so they dont have to worry about complicated things, etc.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:25 PM (Doh4+)
You spelled Azatlan wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 06:25 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:25 PM (C9pBZ)
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Awesome.
Now find yourself a trust based civilization. Name one.
But ... Id like to take this moment to point out I do not really trust somebody wanting to expel people not of *your* trust based tribe.
Posted by: Ritchie Valenzuela at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:21 PM (3wHFl)
First CEO to be hauled off to a Federal pen will send a message.
Too bad it will never happen. But you may say, I'm a "dreamer."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (p4UlV)
unshakable Democratic majority forever more, because Hispanics lean
Democratic.
It sounds like Texiera would agree with Trump, and since The GOPe agrees with Texiera circa 1992 then doesn't that mean they now agree with Trump? I thought that was the whole premise of the autopsy? I guess it's just impolite to say it during the light of day.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (bOPU/)
Lose-lose.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (WlGX+)
Hoping for Jeff Sessions, but fear it's Tevye the Mailman's grandson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:17 PM (p4UlV)
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Jeff Sessions is needed in the Senate.
Ya really think Teh Donald is going to pick another white male? (I acknowledge that the RNC may get to participate in this pick.)
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (pC96u)
Quite.
It is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing and we must openly START wanting it.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:25 PM (rwI+c)
Neiderkasich...DEAD!
Posted by: Trumpo Trumtarski at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (Dj0WE)
The US before it started decivilizing itself.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (+wjl1)
Jeff Sessions is needed in the Senate.
Ya really think Teh Donald is going to pick another white male? (I acknowledge that the RNC may get to participate in this pick.)
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (pC96u)
Senate? What's that?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (p4UlV)
Webb - brings VA and PA
I don't think that calculus works anymore. Edwards didn't bring home North Carolina. Ryan didn't bring home Wisconsin.
Christie could be a possibility.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (uOtyQ)
It is one of the whitest countries on earth actually.
I was making a Nazi joke
But yes, they are. Chile too, as I understand.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (LUG6K)
One thing Ohio has going for it is the whole damn state is damn near an aquifer.
One thing that sucks....
we are WAY too close to "Blue Heavens" for my liking.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (g8Hfr)
Christie could be a possibility.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (uOtyQ)
I can bring home doughnuts any time.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: $19,231,691,651,210.68 at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (rwI+c)
Christie could be a possibility.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (uOtyQ)
That fat fuck couldn't bring his own hands down to his chafed thighs to rub lotion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (p4UlV)
You know the one! The one that prevented Obama from doing all of the extra-constitutional stuff that he wanted to do.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Ritchie Valenzuela at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (8XRCm)
Trust based tribe = here legally.
Yeah, I don't really care what anyone outside that tribe thinks on this topic.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (Doh4+)
Agreed. The response has been put off tool long because it was unthinkable to a moral people and in the meantime the provocation has escalated. So now the only solution is the ultimate of unthinkable, but also the only solution because people are *already* being physically hurt (and there have been "unexplained" deaths, like the black pro-Stars-and-Bars guy who was run off the road and murdered).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (GDulk)
Well, maybe not. Oh well. Thanks Obama!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (uOtyQ)
Oreos would bust the budget.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (4ng05)
I don't think that calculus works anymore. Edwards didn't bring home North Carolina. Ryan didn't bring home Wisconsin.
Christie could be a possibility.
Stacy Dash.... Of color, Woman, politically savvy ,good looking and recognizable from the movie Clueless...
Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (O2RFr)
You know the one! The one that prevented Obama from doing all of the extra-constitutional stuff that he wanted to do.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:28 PM (4ng05)
Oh, THAT Senate!
Michael Corleone said this, and Michael Corleone said that, and I said, yeah, whatever!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (p4UlV)
If we could split off everything from the east and west coast to fifty miles inland, the middle of the country would be find. We would figure out a way to deal with Shitcago, Shit Louis, and Denver.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (jLXo
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Really ??? Seriously????
The US??? Ask the Indians. Ask the former slaves that. At what point in History are you referring to ???? The Civil War??? Reconstrction???? The Sixties???
At what point in our History did we all just get along.??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (8XRCm)
Cruz brings the real conservative and constitutionalists. He also has a great fcuking ground game organization.
And he is the only one hated by the GOPe more than Trump.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (v0YLX)
You are confusing a civilized society from a tribe. I would easily trust a member of a, say, and Asian trust based civilization.
A tribal? No. Tribal members trust their own family first, then their tribe. Everyone else is not to be trusted, and ca be victimized of you can get away with it.
This is why intact civilizations always win. They can only fall to barbarians after they rot from within first.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (jLXo8)
Christie could be a possibility.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:27 PM (uOtyQ)
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OHIO BABY!!!!!!!
Posted by: Katshit the Son of The Mail Man at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (0LHZx)
Christie is actually a smart choice. I'm not sure he'd be the best pick, tho.
We need someone who is good handling the media -- that's Christie's strong point. Handling the media is very very important.
Trump picking a weakling-loser won't do him or us any good.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (jK3b3)
In fairness they ARE trying to change that Jean....
and they are hot and randy as hell in Brazil.
3d wave feminism is not a thing there...Trigglypuff is an object of public ridicule there.
I almost hope my son lives his dream and goes there and marries.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (g8Hfr)
He seems compelled to piss off the media and the chattering classes. And he would see a "diverse" pick as a sign of weakness.
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (q177U)
At what point in our History did we all just get along.??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (8XRCm)
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In a weird way, even during the Civil War, I don't think people hated each other as much as they do now.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:32 PM (0LHZx)
Cruz brings the real conservative and constitutionalists. He also has a great fcuking ground game organization.
And he is the only one hated by the GOPe more than Trump.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (v0YLX)
If Trump really is an outsider, it would have been a natural. But he went nasty and personal, so forget it. Of course, it's Trump but I doubt Ted Cruz would ever agree.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:32 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 06:32 PM (iQIUe)
Can't think of any off the top of my head.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (0LHZx)
Katshit - brings Ohio and PA
Webb - brings VA and PA
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (Doh4+)
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Leaving aside the silly fantasy about PA, do you think the VP selection matters that much to a home state? Maybe, but I dunno.
Kasich is obviously popular among GOP primary voters in Ohio. Maybe he would help there. (?)
As of now, I see no way Trump takes VA. Even if he got close, the Libertarians and fraud will see Hillary through. Webb won't hurt but won't help. IMO.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (T/5A0)
Doing election modeling based on ethnic communities is not the same as saying a certain race shouldn't be a judge in a Trump case because most of that race is Democrat.
I get why Ace was annoyed by Rubio people (I was too). Rubio staying in only to be crushed in his home state is why we have Trump today, but he's become so disillusioned that he's no longer making cogent arguments, which is the brand of this blog.
Posted by: Carl at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (tEVs6)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (Doh4+)
If Trump really is an outsider, it would have been a natural. But he went nasty and personal, so forget it. Of course, it's Trump but I doubt Ted Cruz would ever agree.
I think He expects Hillary! to win and He doesn't want to ruin His chances after Hillary finishes Her second term...
It made Me ill to write that...
Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (O2RFr)
The ACLU defended Nazis in Skokie and Klansmen. But where the hell were they in San Jose?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (p4UlV)
The Cruz that handed out teddy bears would take the offer.
Posted by: eman at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (mR7Es)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (g8Hfr)
Lack of trust started the civil war.
Seriously, fixerupper. Try trusting some third worlder as much as you trust your neighbour, and see what happens. There is a difference between civilization and tribalism, despite all the politically correct bullshit that is popular now.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (6Ll1u)
I really, really hope he doesn't go there.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (4ng05)
It made Me ill to write that...
Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (O2RFr)
"He" capitalized?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (p4UlV)
Maybe amnesty is a huge deal to Latin Americans, maybe it's not. But how is that statement productive in any way?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (ktzHq)
Amnesty is critically important to Hispanics, and without amnesty, you can write off their support forever.
Because it really helped the GOP so much when Reagan did it
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (zOTsN)
He has an app for that...
he says if he can figure out a way to not have to breathe he'll wear a full body condom the first seven years of marriage....
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:32 PM (p4UlV)
Trump figured out early on he wasn't going to need Cruz. Cruz doesn't own any constituency, and what's Texas going to do, go Hillory?
I could see him picking a real outsider, which Cruz is not. Sorry, he just isn't. The name that keeps popping into my head is Allen West.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (Dj0WE)
got close, the Libertarians and fraud will see Hillary through. Webb
won't hurt but won't help. IMO.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (T/5A0)
VA is a suburb of DC now, and no way is DC voting for Trump.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (bOPU/)
Unlikely. There's not much in it for him and he's still an ambitious young man.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:35 PM (rwI+c)
I really, really hope he doesn't go there.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (4ng05)
I think I heard Rush today saying he hired Reagan's old campaign manager (Ed Rollins). Now that's a good sign.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:35 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Carl at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (tEVs6)
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He's a member of La Raza, a group whose stated goal is the retaking of SW USA for Mexico. If you don't think that's a conflict you're a fucking retard. End. Of. Story.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:35 PM (0LHZx)
Trump should maybe pick that smoking hot pedophile Texas teacher, a.k.a. the teacher of all our boyhood dreams?
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:35 PM (jK3b3)
OooOOOooo, Hillary saying the violence by protestors at Trump rallies has to end. Says she CONDEMNS it. OoooooOOOOO.
Let's see if her supporters do as she says. Let's see if she's a leader.
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (jLXo
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My point is tribalism is human nature. Its in our nature to want to associate with similar humans and distrust those different than us.
Weve nurtured ourselves to sometimes overcome our nature. But to deny our nature is folly.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (Dj0WE)
Cruz is the ultimate outsider. Just because he's a Senator does not make him a part of the establishment. But, ignore the bulk of his record and actions over the past few years.
Meh. Water over the bridge. I got enough shit to worry about now.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (Ozsfq)
They were under Spain's thumb until about 1900. So, less hispanic.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (P/kVC)
Doing election modeling based on ethnic communities is not the same as saying a certain race shouldn't be a judge in a Trump case because most of that race is Democrat.
I get why Ace was annoyed by Rubio people (I was too). Rubio staying in only to be crushed in his home state is why we have Trump today, but he's become so disillusioned that he's no longer making cogent arguments, which is the brand of this blog.
Posted by: Carl at June 03, 2016 06:33 PM (tEVs6)
Not the same at all. Trump is responding to literally decades of deception and betrayal by D.C. People want the borders secure because a country is not a country without them.
So, no. Not the same.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (4ng05)
Since he had Trayvon murdered for his heart transplant, he's good for at least 20 more years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (+wjl1)
He seems compelled to piss off the media and the chattering classes. And he would see a "diverse" pick as a sign of weakness.
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (q177U)
I don't believe that Trump thinks that way, frankly. I suspect he'll choose whomever he wants, and be done with it. That sort of calculating the electoral angles and sucking up to curry favor are traditional GOPe style.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (oKE6c)
** Yes I know Palin. But 99.9% of people who voted for "her" would have voted for McCain regardless.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (0LHZx)
You mean Mike from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul--from your lips to some funky ears?
Posted by: derit at June 03, 2016 06:38 PM (OC+TJ)
Civilization is learned behaviour and culture on top of old tribalism, yes. But there is a reason why intact trust based civilizations are as powerful as they are.
Purely Tribal societies cannot organize well due to lack or trust between tribes. When some disaster or war hits, they suffer badly for this reason.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (+wjl1)
Pfft! Carmen Miranda! His rug and her tutti-frutti hat!
Winning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (q177U)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM (8XRCm)
They've bought the propaganda, and only a healthy dose of reality is going to change that, but the dosage is a ranged based on individual tolerance, and reality isn't fast, although it's really seemed to pick up speed these days.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (bOPU/)
I've been sober 16.25 years Moo Moo....
McCain sans Palin would have had that at 7.25 years b/c there is no way I could face voting for that cocksucker without her sober.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (g8Hfr)
The bad news is that I think that was the last race he's won.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (/tuJf)
I don't believe that Trump thinks that way, frankly. I suspect he'll choose whomever he wants, and be done with it. That sort of calculating the electoral angles and sucking up to curry favor are traditional GOPe style.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:37 PM (oKE6c)
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Good point. All this calculating is old skool politics. Trump won by taking the old playbook and throwing it into the fire. Who knows, he might pick Bernie Sanders for all we know.
And this is why the #nevertrump assholes are doing their thing. Their entire existence is based on enforcing the rules. If Trump wins, their rules are meaningless and hence so is their existence.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (0LHZx)
VA is a suburb of DC now, and no way is DC voting for Trump.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:34 PM (bOPU/) The cuuch lost by 2.5% with Bob McDonnells baggage and being out-spent 10-1. VA is not lost.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (Doh4+)
Can't think of any off the top of my head.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:33
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Jan Brewer but AZ isn't a swing state. I can't really think of anyone either. He should pick Sheriff Joe or that black cop from WI, Sheriff David Clark, I think is is his name just to watch the left collectively lose it. He needs someone tough and with a law and order mentality that doesn't give a crap about offending delicate sensibilities and speaks plainly and forcefully. Gulliani would be great.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (4ng05)
Imagine New York without NYC?
California without LA and SF?
Illinois without Cook County?
It would be a tragedy, with millions of innocent dead children, and conservatives. People like JJ, Ace, Zombie, and hundreds of other morons.
But the nation would be radically changed by a nuclear exchange.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (/tuJf)
I don't know his record since.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:39 PM (g8Hfr)
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You have such a way with words. I love it.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:41 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: BignJames at June 03, 2016 06:41 PM (j7iSn)
Who knows what conversations are already being made. If it benefits Trump he'll do it. Second prize is never the goal of a hardnosed businessman.
He'll pick who gets him 271.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 06:41 PM (ZnIt3)
So many heads would explode.
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (uOtyQ)
And a campaign trail littered with vehicular homicides.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (4ng05)
Not THAT again...
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (3wHFl)
Tom Cotton? Jeff Sessions?
I would be ecstatic if it were Allen West. He could do a lot worse but he couldn't do much better.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (p4UlV)
Ordinarily I think it would be obvious that we wouldn't say a person is biased against someone simply because of their ethnic heritage when that heritage is not at issue in the proceedings. But that was before the GOP decided to support Trump.
Creating an atmosphere where a defendant can choose the judge hearing his case by the simple expedient of insulting ethnic groups is a pretty grim way to go. What happens if this judge recuses himself and the next judge is jewish? What does Trump say then? What will his defenders be asked to support?
Not playing by the rules doesn't always mean you're doing wise things. The simplest explanation for this is that Trump knew the unsealed records were potentially extraordinarily damaging, as they showed just how bad Trump U was, just how much of an effort to scam people it involved. If he can create sufficient public pressure, maybe he can get the judge recused and keep the case slowed down until after the election, when the details won't matter (except to shock us).
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (q177U)
By the way, has Ben Howe been fired yet?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (4ErVI)
He'll pick who gets him 271.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 06:41 PM (ZnIt3)
If he can't get to 271 on his own, then that ain't good.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (6Ll1u)
No.
Twelfth Amendment. You cannot have the President and Vice President from the same state. You will forfeit NY electoral votes.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (v0YLX)
Cruz brings the real conservative and constitutionalists. He also has a great fcuking ground game organization.
And he is the only one hated by the GOPe more than Trump.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:30 PM (v0YLX)
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He would be a bad choice BECAUSE the GOPe hates him more than Trump.
Do you not understand that we don't have a prayer of beating Hillary without significant GOPe support?
Do you not see that to do as well as Romney we have to get the Romney voters, the "moderates," the independents?
MILLIONS of people who usually vote GOP really LIKE the Ryan and Kasich kind of Republican.
Most (not all) conservatives will come around and vote for the orange POS just to stop the Bitch of Benghazi.
Those who won't vote Trump won't be swayed by having Cruz on the ticket. Believe me.
It's the mushy-headed moderates that need to be wooed the most.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (p4UlV)
I'd say go mountain west...someone from Colorado or New Mexico or Nevada.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:44 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:44 PM (3wHFl)
No.
Twelfth Amendment. You cannot have the President and Vice President from the same state. You will forfeit NY electoral votes.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:43 PM (v0YLX)
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Meh. You can always change residence before the election. Rent an apartment in NJ for a couple of months, bam you're not a NY resident anymore.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (Dj0WE)
Poor choice of words?
BTW - tongue was ensconced firmly in the cheek.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (4ng05)
LOL
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (q177U)
Others for the list: Mark Fuhrman, Ollie North, Dave Petraeus. Ken Starr.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 03, 2016 06:46 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:46 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:46 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:42 PM (Dj0WE)
Poor choice of words?
BTW - tongue was ensconced firmly in the cheek.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (4ng05)
Not poor at all! She's not my daughter, so I can feel free to think any perverted thoughts I want.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:47 PM (Dj0WE)
Trump is just a moron, so he can't make the same point without stepping on his own dick.
Posted by: DangerDad at June 03, 2016 06:47 PM (L/9Im)
I'm sure Hillary reminds herself of this often.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (Dj0WE)
Ken Starr? LOL! Like picking Arnold Stang.
But my way outside shot is Ollie North for sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (p4UlV)
Typical WAPO, leaving out the MAIN reason Trump offered for believing that Judge Curiel is biased: that on every motion he keeps ruling against what Trump believes to be the merits of the case: "We're in front of a very hostile judge," Mr. Trump said. "The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he's given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative." ... "I'm telling you, this court system, judges in this court system, federal court, they ought to look into Judge Curiel. Because what Judge Curiel is doing is a total disgrace, OK?"
Trump is looking for an explanation for what he sees as judicial bias. Huge numbers of latinos, including pretty much all Democrat Latinos (and street thugs in San Jose) are calling Trump racist for being against ILLEGAL immigration (as if breaking the law is a race), so it is not unreasonable to suspect that, if Curiel really is biased, this is the reason: because like every other Democrat hispanic in the country he has the insane idea that it is racist to oppose illegal immigration, and anyone who is that irrational WILL have a conflict of interest.
Should Trump forbear to state such suspicions? A forbearance that nobody expects when faced with bias on the part of non-minority males? Who in the world thinks there is anything wrong with calling out Chief Justice Taney for his bias in the Dred Scott case? It's okay to call out bias!
Trump shouldn't say that Curiel's ethnicity itself creates a conflict of interest. It is Curiel's BIGOTRY creates a conflict of interest, demonstrated by the bias of his rulings.
Maybe Trump is right about Curiel being biased, maybe he is wrong, but it is very dishonest of WAPO (and typical of WAPO) to pretend that it is Curiel's ethnicity, not his actions, that Trump is objecting to. He is offering ethnicity as a likely EXPLANATION for what he sees as objectively biased actions, and it WOULD be a likely explanation, along with having been appointed by Obama.
Posted by: AlecRawls at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (5z7RS)
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 06:49 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:49 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 06:49 PM (a0IVu)
I'd go door to door even here in Hymietown for that team.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:45 PM (Dj0WE)
Ken Starr? LOL! Like picking Arnold Stang.
But my way outside shot is Ollie North for sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (p4UlV)
If I'm being serious (and don't call me Shirley), I would imagine it's possible he's placed calls to Condi Rice. I would expect she has said no if he has, but it would not shock me one bit.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (Dj0WE)
I dont think Katshit passes that test. Nor Cruz.
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 06:49 PM (ciqBh)
My tribe isn't white. It's Americans.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (p4UlV)
There may be a few purged officers who would look good on the ticket.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Willy J. at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (LncQn)
Posted by: Jose at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (pfX6+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (55KX1)
I suggest Roman-ing the fuck up. Become an effective war-making civilization again, and stop taking shit from the barbs. You want to be Americans? Sure, prove it to us. You don't? The Arena needs more gladiators.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (jLXo8)
Also, concerning his adversarial relationship with the press, I expec that to explode at some point. He was asked at a press conference if his treatment of the press during the campaign is how he would treat the press as President. He didn't flinch and said yes, it will be exactly the same. Hahaha.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 03, 2016 06:51 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (Dj0WE)
Is he going to do the TV schtick and announce it AT the convention and not before? The guy knows how to hold an audience, I'll say that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (p4UlV)
And trump will pick someone who knows his place and is quiet. Anybody know Trumps second in command in his businesses? No. Of course not
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (zOTsN)
My tribe was anyone who cleaved to our creed JJ...
who does that anymore?
I have said here or 2 election cycles the left is cornering good people into tribing up.
I prefer having a tribe based on ethics and values....
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (g8Hfr)
They were under Spain's thumb until about 1900. So, less hispanic.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 03, 2016 06:36 PM
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LOL.
So, they were under Spanish rule for much longer than Mexico and that makes the LESS Hispanic?!?
You do realize that "Hispanic" is just the Latinate form of "Spanish," right?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (T/5A0)
No way Petraeus. He's on board with the Democrats. In fact, they own his ass. Plus, Petraeus already said nasty shit about Trump recently.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (jK3b3)
Posted by: Willy J. at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (LncQn)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (uOtyQ)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (p4UlV)
Yeah, I think I smell something there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (Dj0WE)
Yup. Anyone who actually wants to join the American civilization, and has something of value to bring to the table, is welcome here.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (jLXo8)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:40 PM (Doh4+)
In the first place, Cuccinelli was outspent 2-to-1, not 10-to-1.
It was also an off-year election. VA does its state races in off years (the Cuccinelli-McAuliffe race was 2013), which keeps turnout lower. 43% of eligible voters turned out in 2013; 72% turned out in 2012, when Obama won the state over Romney. Turnout dipped slightly, to 41.6%, in 2014, when Ed Gillespie narrowly lost the Senate race.
To think Trump can win the state in a presidential year you have to figure out where he's going to get a whole lot of additional votes in a higher-turnout year. He's not winning it without winning solidly in places like Colorado.
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (V40IZ)
No way Petraeus. He's on board with the Democrats. In fact, they own his ass. Plus, Petraeus already said nasty shit about Trump recently.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:52 PM (jK3b3)
Stanley McChrystal? Ripped, rested and ready.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (a0IVu)
I'd consider Kelsey Grammer. Or even Jon Voight.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (jK3b3)
Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (q177U)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (Dj0WE)
He's a troll what smells of rotten San Jose eggs.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:55 PM (p4UlV)
Don King for VP
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 06:55 PM (lKyWE)
A low cvnt.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (p4UlV)
Que?
Posted by: Consuelo at June 03, 2016 06:55 PM (Dj0WE)
Typical WAPO, leaving out the MAIN reason Trump offered for believing that Judge Curiel is biased: that on every motion he keeps ruling against what Trump believes to be the merits of the case: "We're in front of a very hostile judge," Mr. Trump said. "The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he's given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative." ... "I'm telling you, this court system, judges in this court system, federal court, they ought to look into Judge Curiel. Because what Judge Curiel is doing is a total disgrace, OK?"
Trump is looking for an explanation for what he sees as judicial bias. Huge numbers of latinos, including pretty much all Democrat Latinos (and street thugs in San Jose) are calling Trump racist for being against ILLEGAL immigration (as if breaking the law is a race), so it is not unreasonable to suspect that, if Curiel really is biased, this is the reason: because like every other Democrat hispanic in the country he has the insane idea that it is racist to oppose illegal immigration, and anyone who is that irrational WILL have a conflict of interest.
Should Trump forbear to state such suspicions? A forbearance that nobody expects when faced with bias on the part of non-minority males? Who in the world thinks there is anything wrong with calling out Chief Justice Taney for his bias in the Dred Scott case? It's okay to call out bias!
Trump shouldn't say that Curiel's ethnicity itself creates a conflict of interest. It is Curiel's BIGOTRY creates a conflict of interest, demonstrated by the bias of his rulings.
Maybe Trump is right about Curiel being biased, maybe he is wrong, but it is very dishonest of WAPO (and typical of WAPO) to pretend that it is Curiel's ethnicity, not his actions, that Trump is objecting to. He is offering ethnicity as a likely EXPLANATION for what he sees as objectively biased actions, and it WOULD be a likely explanation, along with having been appointed by Obama.
Posted by: AlecRawls at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (5z7RS)
Judges are trained to be impartial. They would never be biased!
Next you will tell me that the judge that overturned the CA Marriage Amendment did it because he was a closet gay and wanted to marry his boyfriend?
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 06:56 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM (uOtyQ)
Princess Amaretto von Valurite.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:56 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:50 PM (p4UlV)
Me too! I would go trailer to trailer and dive bar to dive bar paying people, driving people, cajoling people to vote for Trump/West early and often.
Trump/West 2016.....put them in the White House and Hillary in the big house.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 06:56 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 06:57 PM (7lVbc)
Don't egg me, muchacho.
What do you think?
Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 06:57 PM (7lVbc)
"No huevo yo, hermano!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:57 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:53 PM
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Hahaha! That would be freaking hilarious. She is kind of scary. She could seriously kick Michelle's ass.
Posted by: L, Elle at June 03, 2016 06:58 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:58 PM (v9gSJ)
Posted by: V the K at June 03, 2016 06:59 PM (uOtyQ)
year you have to figure out where he's going to get a whole lot of
additional votes in a higher-turnout year. He's not winning it without
winning solidly in places like Colorado.
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag
- or use a turnout model that doesn't include Obama's performance boost with AA
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:59 PM (Doh4+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 03, 2016 06:59 PM (55KX1)
Posted by: AlecRawls at June 03, 2016 06:48 PM (5z7RS)
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THIS.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 07:00 PM (T/5A0)
Don't egg me, muchacho.
What do you think?
Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 06:57
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Me gusta!
Posted by: L, Elle at June 03, 2016 07:00 PM (6IPEM)
"No huevo yo, hermano!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:57 PM (p4UlV)
Or, as we like to say in English, Mexico is yonder.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 07:00 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 07:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 07:01 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 07:01 PM (Doh4+)
So, any non-whites who also share my values are to be discarded or liquidated?
Please return to the Stormfront from whence you came.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:03 PM (p4UlV)
Clint Eastwood.
Or Clint Howard.
Or Clint Walker
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 07:01 PM (IqV8l)
Clint Torrez.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:03 PM (p4UlV)
I know the FLA GOP establishment hate his ass, they kept redistricting his house seat after he won.
Would he look like a pander candidate?
Any FL morons with an opinion?
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM
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Gee, I wonder how the "Mexican" turnout will be in Colorado this time.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (zOTsN)
Or Clint Howard.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:58 PM (v9gSJ)
_
Howard The Duck
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (0LHZx)
Clint Longley
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 03, 2016 07:06 PM (WlGX+)
Dear Lord, I'm listening to that cunt spout off her shit on Levin. It's depressing and infuriating,
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:06 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 07:06 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 03, 2016 07:07 PM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 07:07 PM (6Ll1u)
Dear Lord, I'm listening to that cunt spout off her shit on Levin. It's depressing and infuriating,
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:06 PM (p4UlV)
Who? A caller or Hillary?
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 07:07 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: derit at June 03, 2016 07:07 PM (OC+TJ)
I'm no stormfronter...
and I meant what I typed and still do.
My Tribe is "American" the Locke and Smith branch ideally...
JJ the left is weaponizing these people and there are ethnic cleansing fights EXTANT in parts of California NOW between Blacks and Hispanics.
The Democrats are trying to give their racial games the patina of tacit legal approval.
I'm not "tribing up Mighty Whitey" yet and hopefully "never" but when the day comes where it is OVERT I am a second or third class citizen in my own nation what am I to do?
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 07:08 PM (g8Hfr)
Dear Lord, I'm listening to that c**t spout off her shit on Levin.
I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 07:08 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 07:07 PM (a0IVu)
Michelle, the permanently peeved PMS puke.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:09 PM (p4UlV)
civilization, and has something of value to bring to the table, is
welcome here.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:54 PM (jLXo
It's like you guys are repeating shitty political commercials. A lot of people think Marx had "something of value" to offer the world. How about right now we don't take anybody. Let's turn on that 'no vacancy' light. If we want to be altruistic, say in the ME, then we do it in the ME. We set up refugee camps in Syria, or maybe our buddy SA.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 07:09 PM (bOPU/)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM (zOTsN)
The thing is that a judge is supposed not only to be unbiased, but to avoid any appearance of suspicion of bias, I believe. His membership in racially-based groups raises suspicions regarding his ability to be impartial in a case that has tangential racial connections.
If the shoe were on the other foot, and he belonged to La Raza Blanca Lawyers Association, leftists would be howling about his bias.
Trump's best move would be to call on the judge to assert publicly his lack of bias (which the judge won't do) or recuse himself.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 07:10 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 03, 2016 07:10 PM (55KX1)
There are 3,000,000 air conditioned tents in a fallow refugee city in Saudi...
I suggest they go there.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 07:10 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:09 PM (p4UlV)
Ah yes, she is one ungrateful bitch.
Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 07:11 PM (a0IVu)
Yeah. I'll get thrashed for that suggestion, but I bet she'd be a lot more substantial than the character she plays on TV.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 07:11 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 07:08 PM (g8Hfr)
I will not copy what the evil ones are doing. No. Not to good and decent people no matter who they are. That shit is they're war. Not mine. I'll fight on my own terms with my own allies.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:12 PM (p4UlV)
I lived in St Louis Park MN for ten years. I found that the middle class was about half Dem, half Repub. It didn't matter if they were Christians, Jews, Blacks, Asian, or Whitey.
Amazingly, the Franken Senate seat has been trading back and forth between the GOP and the Dems since 1978, but the senator was always Jewish, Boschwitz, et al.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 07:12 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 07:12 PM (IqV8l)
THEIR not they're. Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:13 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 07:08 PM (g8Hfr)
No need to wait.....we're there already.
Thanks Obama and the DOJ!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 07:13 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 03, 2016 07:13 PM (gNgyc)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 07:05 PM
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
If you want to go duck ---which is not a bad idea, IMHO-- for heaven's sake pick Donald.
You wanna lose Florida?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 07:14 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 07:15 PM (Doh4+)
Not to good and decent people no matter who they are. That shit is
they're war. Not mine. I'll fight on my own terms with my own allies.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 07:12 PM (p4UlV)
Then you and yours will perish. It's not required for both sides to actually believe they're in a war for it to be a war. It's possible for one side to be so deluded that it can actually believe that it's not in a war, and the other side is justified, and has actual grievances. They are depending on the decency of the other side to show restraint, and at some point to call it even steven, and then both sides will hold hands and sing Kumbayaya.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 07:16 PM (bOPU/)
If you want to go duck ---which is not a bad idea, IMHO-- for heaven's sake pick Donald.
Two angry Donalds
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 07:18 PM (lKyWE)
I think a goal should be to get them to return home when it is safe to do so. The mideast needs farmers and artisans more than Northern Europe and America need untrained and unskilled workers with a completely different culture.
But KSA is smart enough and hateful enough not to take in their Arab Brethren.
Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 07:20 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 07:20 PM (rwI+c)
Dan Joseph*
Gotta be honest. At this point, If I were a Mexican and you told me you supported Trump, I'd probably throw something at you, too. Heuevos.
*MRCTV's Man On The Street, Professional Smart-Ass and America's Most Underrated Conservative Vlogger.
"Conservative" -- broadly defined.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 07:20 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 07:15 PM (Doh4+)
That would be the way to fight it normally, in the legal system, but Trump is in a Presidential campaign. Blowing this up into a major issue might work in his favor.
Might not, too. Hard to say, but it would bring home the illegal immigration point again, in a roundabout way, and right after the San Jose riots by other Hispanics.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 07:22 PM (oKE6c)
I pray I show such character, failing that I pray I leave a better world for better men if I match fire for fire sword for sword.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 07:24 PM (g8Hfr)
the illegal immigration point again, in a roundabout way, and right
after the San Jose riots by other Hispanics.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 07:22 PM (oKE6c)
Do you think the media wants to explain to the average American sleeper what La Raza translates to in English and what it stands for? I think they would rather drop the whole issue.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 07:24 PM (bOPU/)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 07:30 PM (iLoHX)
If the shoe were on the other foot, and he belonged to La Raza Blanca Lawyers Association, leftists would be howling about his bias.
Trump's best move would be to call on the judge to assert publicly his lack of bias (which the judge won't do) or recuse himself.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 07:10 PM (oKE6c)
Curiel's court has had this case since at least 2014. It was genius of him to ensure that he'd have this fraud case before Trump ran for president or called for a wall. That's some Bond-villain type planning.
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 07:30 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 03, 2016 07:33 PM (55KX1)
Okay, I had to Google that. So Judge Vaughn Walker really is a flaming homosexual who wanted to marry his boyfriend?
Wouldn't say that per se creates a conflict of interest, but if his ruling shows bias (and in my opinion it was egregious), his homosexual activism is the likely explanation and would constitute conflict of interest.
Posted by: AlecRawls at June 03, 2016 07:36 PM (5z7RS)
Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:59 PM (Doh4+)
There's a tool you can play around with here, to show the impact of various turnout changes.
http://tinyurl.com/hlgjo5t
Just cutting the AA turnout to pre-Obama levels won't get you Virginia; you have to assume that Trump does significantly better with whites than Romney did. And his abysmal ratings with women- not just single women, but married women, traditionally a GOP strength- is going to make that an extremely difficult task.
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 07:36 PM (sPO/s)
Curiel's court has had this case since at least
2014. It was genius of him to ensure that he'd have this fraud case
before Trump ran for president or called for a wall. That's some
Bond-villain type planning.
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 07:30 PM (sPO/s)
What are the odds that he would get a judge who is actually a member of
La Raza on his case??? It's certainly going to be grounds for an appeal. It's bizarre how lucky Trump is, although by this time I think we're reaching the point of having to acknowledge divine intervention.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 07:39 PM (bOPU/)
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 07:46 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Cody's Feed Bag at June 03, 2016 07:46 PM (sPO/s)
Posted by: george costanza at June 03, 2016 07:50 PM (PLnZs)
Posted by: LadyS at June 03, 2016 08:04 PM (C8ztS)
He didn't violate any particular rule; but I just am not looking forward to hearing from him further.
There are many white supremacy sites on the internet; keep to your own gardens.
Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 08:17 PM (dciA+)
They also have a particular fascination with pron queens...
NTTIAWWT
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:20 PM (g8Hfr)
I do love him. I quit listening to all trump cheerleaders.
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:21 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:22 PM (sj3Ax)
Well I'll miss you carol...
I'm not a Trump cheerleader, but I am slowly moving towards him as the Mr. Softee GOP that has no problem with riots gets under my skin.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:23 PM (g8Hfr)
Hello back, I hope you're well.
Grandpa told me you can't judge a man by his family he had no choice about them.
You can't judge a man by his friends, because they can be bought or self-interested and they change over time.
You judge a man by his enemies b/c a man chooses them and they choose him.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:25 PM (g8Hfr)
I stay away during rose season or I'll spend all day here.
I just heard Levin say Muhammad Ali is on life support.
I'll be back in the fall or on rainy days. I admit it, I'm addicted to Ace's blog.
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:33 PM (sj3Ax)
I'm glad you popped in, I took 4 months off.
Ali passing is sad, but he led a life well lived.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:33 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:36 PM (sj3Ax)
I'm making up grocery list while listening to Levin.
Sven,
How are you?
I'm ticked off at MA legislature. They passed gender bill & only one R spoke eloquently about it. Mini Republican gov. Baker said he was for it. I called his office today to give my opinion.
Republican Governors are fighting The JEF LGBT BS, not Baker. Forget about 99.9 % of normal people & cater to them
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:42 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 08:46 PM (RPsRI)
He is from "the GOOD La Raza" the one that has lawyers in it who give out "Ethnic" scholarships.
Not the "Bad La Raza" which they have links to and are founded by...
See the "Good La Raza" wants you to understand "the race" is an unfair translation and 'offensive' they prefer "the people" which kind of implies I think non-hispanics are sub-human.
I don't like being called Gaijin in Japan, or Auslander in Germany....
I'm pretty sure I don't like being subhuman here in America where I was born.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:46 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:47 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 08:48 PM (RPsRI)
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:49 PM (sj3Ax)
Yes...the way to fight US minority grievance hysteria is to become hysterical ourselves.
*sigh*
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:49 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:50 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:50 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Carol at June 03, 2016 08:54 PM (sj3Ax)
Not sure what you're talking about. You'll have to point out where I advocate "hysteria." I advocate seeing what's written on the wall.
There seems to be a failure to address anything I've said in any specific way. Makes me think some people are reacting emotionally instead of thinking.
Here's what you do. Find a *specific* thing I said, and say what you think is wrong with it. We'll debate it.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 08:55 PM (RPsRI)
Pertinent links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_P._Curiel
http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html
(the above links to "the bad la raza")
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 08:56 PM (g8Hfr)
Hey yo I'm woke!
Got to see the writing on the wall.
Here's the thing, I grew up in the projects. Minority grievance psychological stance obliterates an individual as ably as drugs, or teen pregnancy in my experience. I understand, and in fact fear that your innuendo laden subtly advanced views may be pertinent and admitted as much about 25 posts upthread.
That does not mean I find the knowledge my beliefs and aspirations on overcoming color as a demarcator in the American experience is a welcome one.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 09:00 PM (g8Hfr)
I tend to agree. Unfortunately, I can't really say where our conclusions differ or if they differ. You haven't really responded to anything I've said in a way that, well, actually addresses anything I've said. It's just, "WHOA HEY! 'White Supremacy'--I'm not with that." Which is odd, since I'm neither White--at least, not all the way--nor a "White Supremacist."
"I understand, and in fact fear that your innuendo laden subtly advanced views may be pertinent and admitted as much about 25 posts upthread."
Uh-oh.
Sounds like you're attributing views to me instead of actually reading what I said and understanding. This is part of crimestop. You have a built-in psychological mechanism that makes you stop short of any strain of thought that *could* lead in a heretical direction. Obviously, such things must be rooted out.
I'll help you work through it though. To start with, please do what I said earlier: take a specific thing I said, and we'll debate it.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 09:11 PM (RPsRI)
That does not mean I find the knowledge my
beliefs and aspirations on overcoming color as a demarcator in the
American experience is a welcome one.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 09:00 PM (g8Hfr)
I agree with you. It's sad that man has proved once again that we cannot live up to our ideologies, and are once again going to engage in a fight for existence, and dominance. It's not a victory to be right in this case.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 09:26 PM (bOPU/)
Predictably, this is now happening to our friend Ace.
It's obvious that Trump's references to Judge Curiel as "a Mexican," who simply must be biased by virtue of that fact, are racist. Trump isn't even bothering to conceal his bigotry behind a figleaf anymore.
But his defenders must find a way to excuse his behavior. In the process they corrupt themselves by making common cause with overt racism.
As Trump would tweet: Sad.
Posted by: Sauropod at June 03, 2016 09:29 PM (iLoHX)
Posted by: Sauropod at June 03, 2016 09:29 PM (iLoHX)
Looks like the judge is a member of La Raza, so it will probably turn out that Trump has a point. You would have known all that if you had read some of the previous comments.
As Trump would tweet: Sad.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 09:38 PM (bOPU/)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at June 03, 2016 09:40 PM (6TPa2)
Hey sven, weren't you fine calling people orientals in America? LOL, now you finally get it, yang-gue-tz!
Posted by: sexypig at June 03, 2016 09:47 PM (dZQh7)
Yes, explain to me again how a man born in Indiana who embraced an "ethnically" divisive barristry organization in Mexifornia named literally "the race" or rather since Lord knows we MUSTN'T offend them "The People" who reward scholarships based on etnicity with a 1.000 batting average founded to aid illegal immigrants in skirting immigration law is the holder of the moral highground.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 09:47 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: sexypig at June 03, 2016 09:48 PM (dZQh7)
I don't go TrigglyPuff old boy...
I have issue with any language that has two words for human beings "us" and "them" with them usually etymologically being descended from "dog"...
go hug a rainbow.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 09:49 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at June 03, 2016 09:50 PM (rwI+c)
Mitch then goes on to compare Trump/Clinton to Goldwater/Johnson, and then admits he supported LBJ over Goldwater. HE'S ON ANOTHER PLANET. Probably Uranus, but allow me to elaborate. Goldwater didn't lose because he chased away the black vote, LBJ won because he bought the black vote. Great Society promised welfare, food stamps, public schools, and public housing for all. Blacks got most of it, and if a white guy complained that he didn't want to pay for it via taxes, he could be branded a racist and chased off with the Equal Rights Act. Never mind that every time MLK (Republican) and Eisenhower (Republican) would work together to pitch something similar to the ERA, Senator Johnson (Democrat) would call it the "n****r bill," on tape, and shoot it down. When LBJ put his signature on all of this, he claimed blacks would vote Democrat for the next hundred years. In the 50 years since, this has gotten the blacks drugs, crime, unemployment, illiteracy, poverty, teenage single moms, and abortions . Now we get BLM on top of that. Blacks can't be expected to obey the law, apparently. LBJ didn't live to see what he had wrought, Mitch might. In return for a percentage of the Latino vote, Mitch would make illegal immigrants legal. The quickest way to this with most of the Latino vote was President Marco "Gang of Eight" Rubio. That didn't work out. Plan B was Jeb "Squishy" Bush, who would talk tough right up untill Pelosi or Reid or Wasserman-Schultz called him a racist. Then he would break down in tears and sign whatever they put on his desk. That didn't work, either, so now he has to try to shame Trump into moving his direction, and Trump is like "F you." Hillary might help Mitch if Mitch...well..."rubbed her feet" if you catch my meaning, but i don't think Mitch would go that far, yet. Things move a lot faster now than they did then. It took decades to go from "I have a dream" to "HE DIDDN DONUFFIN," but the La Raza guys are pitching eggs at people right now. If Mitch got his way, he better be prepared to climb the Clinton Compound fence when the riots start.
Posted by: hurricane567 at June 03, 2016 09:50 PM (x+xQZ)
Its not triggering to not like being called a name.
Its being human. Now, just think about maybe some other folks not enjoying being called oriental.
Posted by: sexypig at June 03, 2016 09:53 PM (dZQh7)
Baby steps.
Posted by: sexypig at June 03, 2016 09:48 PM (dZQh7)
Are you going to acknowledge that the La Raza judge may indeed be bias against Trump? I'm sure that you always place the blame on one specific group. That's your default.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 09:54 PM (bOPU/)
Right except that is not the game is it shitpig?
To play as the game is played in America I'd have demanded reparations from the Japanese I had met, whined and bitched incessantly, and made an ass of myself rather than you know wonder what sounds their wives made when they popped.
"human" it is what that was too.
Again go hug a rainbow.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 09:56 PM (g8Hfr)
Piss off, Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at June 03, 2016 09:50 PM (rwI+c)
What are you talking about? How long do you intend to walk around stage whispering to yourself. If you have something to say, come out and say it.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 09:58 PM (bOPU/)
I agree that ace's characterization of the GOPe's position is accurate, but that doesn't mean that Meskin judges are always prejudiced, as Trump SEEMS to have said.
I really can't vote for this guy if it means I have to defend every nasty, stupid thing the NYC idiot excretes.
Not voting for this asshole creep.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 09:59 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: sexypig at June 03, 2016 09:53 PM (dZQh7)
Okay, I'll play your silly game. What's the alternative to names, since names appear to be triggering you. Perhaps the Japanese need to change their group's name to a symbol, and then they can be referred to as the people formerly known as oriental.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 10:01 PM (bOPU/)
Trump is an unctuous unpopped boil on the ass of the democrats he has funded.
He is the best chance to keep the beast out of office.
Ergo.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 10:02 PM (g8Hfr)
So true.
He gets worse everyday though. Every damn day he does something worse than the day before.
I can't stand to see him on tv or hear him on the radio.
Every molecule in my body hates him, as much as I hate Hildemort.
Can't vote for that pig.
He'd shitcan an excellent judge like Miguel Estrada for being a Meskin.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 10:13 PM (ozZau)
I was thinkin' he actually just gets better and better. Loved the Pocahontas thing.
Anyhoo, these criticisms just seem so shallow. He said something mean--big deal? And it wasn't actually even mean. His sin of the day was what exactly? Assuming the judge's prejudice against him is mixed up in his national origin. We make assumptions about people all the time based on various dimensions of their identity. Why is nationality off limits?
No wonder the right is so ineffective. They haven't even decolonized their minds from all this crap. This picayune bullshit still hangs them up. And the most pathetic part is that they fancy it makes them "decent." God help us.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 10:30 PM (RPsRI)
...
Good lord.
Because not everyone from every nationality thinks the same. Duh.
Spare me from this leftist collective thinking.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 10:35 PM (ozZau)
This is a non answer. I'll say it again: we make assumptions about people based on dimensions of their identity all the time. For instance, we assume that a person who is a liberal will believe in something called patriarchy--but he may not. That doesn't make the assumption irrational. We assume that a 60 year old baptist from Georgia opposes gay marriage--but he may not. And yet the assumption is still rational. (And, technically speaking, more of a preliminary conclusion than an actual assumption.) Generalization is kind of unavoidable. You don't have an opposition to generalization per se. No one does. You just don't like it as applied to certain categories. So, the point you thought you were making? Yeah, you weren't actually making it.
"Spare me from this leftist collective thinking."
Lol. "Leftist." Acknowledging that different believes are more common among different groups of people isn't "collectivist."
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 10:45 PM (RPsRI)
I'm not a collectivist like you. Sorry.
Trump can go fuck himself.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 10:51 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 10:59 PM (ozZau)
I'll give you this though: you're a perfect TruCon.
By the way, you forgot to put "NeverTrump" after saying that Trump can go fuck himself.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 11:02 PM (RPsRI)
No wonder you're called "Ace".
Posted by: Mary at June 03, 2016 11:06 PM (2ly7u)
Yeah, I know.
So crass. So vulgar. So uncultured. So . . . so . . . UNCOUTH! Why, heavens to Betsy, such a man is not fit for proper society! Harumph!
I comprehend it. It's Frisbee-deep, after all, so it'd be hard for me not to.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 11:08 PM (RPsRI)
I comprehend it. It's Frisbee-deep, after all, so it'd be hard for me not to.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 11:08 PM (RPsRI)
I can do vulgar. I can't do shallow collectivism and anti-constitutional principles.
As I said, going by what Trump just said, he would have to shitcan an excellent judge like Miguel Estrada just on nationality, because based on nationality he's a Democrat.
That's astonishingly stupid, and completely indefensible.
Angrier by the minute. The next GOP that calls me is going to get a screaming earful. No money for the party this time around. I'll support individuals, but no money for the Trumpthing, that LIED about being self-funding--as if anyone would be stupid enough to believe that.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 11:35 PM (ozZau)
No wonder you're called "Ace".
...
Accurate for election modeling.
Not for assessing individuals.
Not every Meskin is a Democrat or wants open borders.
Most do. Not all.
I view people as individuals. Lefties view them as identity groups. Yes, for elections you need to look at the overall picture, but you need evaluate each person as an individual.
Sorry, this comes form YEARS of defending minority and female conservatives from lefties who who claim they aren't REALLY black/Hispanic/women if they vote GOP.
Now all of a sudden we have to reverse course and say, ok you lefties were right, all real Hispanics are Democrats.
Fuck the shit out of that. Fuck it all to hell.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 11:46 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 11:48 PM (ozZau)
FUCK 41% of OUR voters!
//Your GOP
Posted by: sven10077 at June 04, 2016 12:09 AM (g8Hfr)
Fuck GOP for nominating this freak.
Good night. Fucking hell.
Posted by: stace, SMOD/Yellowstone caldera 2016 at June 03, 2016 11:48 PM (ozZau)
I just want to make it clear as a Trump supporter that no matter what it looks like this guy is not on our pay role, as far as I know. I hate to disappoint you, but he truly is one of yours.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 04, 2016 05:15 AM (bOPU/)
What does this mean? See, this is one of the problems I have with "Constitutional Conservatism." What exactly is it? The Constitution is a document setting forth a system of governance, the powers of the federal government, and its limits. It isn't a Cato Institute white paper. There are a thousand dumb ideas that are perfectly constitutional. Most of the ideas Trump *and* Hillary support are facially constitutional, be they good or bad. What "anti-constitutional principles" are you talking about exactly? I'd take anyone on his list of judges over any other jurists Hillary might appoint. How 'bout you?
"As I said, going by what Trump just said, he would have to shitcan an excellent judge like Miguel Estrada just on nationality, because based on nationality he's a Democrat."
Assuming a Hispanic person is a Democrat isn't the same as claiming a Hispanic person who has been a KNOWN REPUBLICAN since the early 2000s is a Democrat. Good Lord.
"That's astonishingly stupid, and completely indefensible."
On that, I'd agree. Thank God Trump didn't say that, huh?
"Angrier by the minute. The next GOP that calls me is going to get a screaming earful. No money for the party this time around."
Incidental agreement there, too. I haven't given money to the party since the election of '10.
"I'll support individuals, but no money for the Trumpthing, that LIED about being self-funding--as if anyone would be stupid enough to believe that."
Oh, stop. You don't care about that. You voted for McCain and Romney despite their lies, flip flops, and embrace of "anti-constitutional principles." You don't care whether Trump is self-funding or not, or whether he lied about it. No one does. I guarantee you you didn't care that Rubio flip-flop-flipped on immigration. You don't care about any of these anti Trump talking points you bring up. You just don't like the dude. I accept that. I don't get it--I love Donald Trump almost as much as I love Milo Yiannopoulos and Tila Tequila--but I accept it. Fine. But it's probably time to put your dislike aside, stop pretending that you care whether Trump lied about self-funding, and start caring that Hillary got four people killed in Benghazi and put our national security at risk--and then lied about it. Lies: they ain't all created equal, and when it comes to politicians, you really just have to pick the least bad ones.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 04, 2016 02:48 PM (RPsRI)
However, when you've got one federal judge, with a particular background and views, and one particular lawsuit, arguing that the judge's race will affect the outcome of the case is ENTIRELY different. It's certainly possible that Trump's right, and that this judge hates his guts because he's "building the wall" (note the delusional present tense he uses, as if the wall is actually under construction). (Trump's doubling-down here also makes the hispanic=anti-trump formulation a self-fulfilling prophecy.) But when you've got more information about the judge than simply his race, I think it's best to use that information, rather than race, to evaluate his neutrality towards Trump (or lack thereof). So, that's where I think your point breaks down.
But even if you were right, and you could equate electoral predictions with outright racial attacks on judges, Trump's recent comments are idiotic for so MANY reasons. First, it seems like an unforced error. I don't think the media was focused on this topic prior to Trump's comments. Maybe let Hillary's myriad problems be the focus for a while. And, if Trump U comes up, pretend like it's no big deal, instead of the case of the century.
Second, even if it's true that the judge is biased b/c THE WALL, why would you say this? It is only going to serve to enrage the judge (hurting Trump's chances in the case and therefore his shot at electoral success as well), and from a political point of view, enrage and motivate hispanic voters who are already enraged and motivated against trump. Why stoke the electoral forces that are your biggest problems?
Because Trump doesn't think or plan. Because he's not that smart. Because he's the chronically unprepared trust fund kid who's gotten through life b/c of his surname and a the bullying attitude that comes along with it. The whole Supreme Court thing had me for a minute thinking I'd vote Trump. Now, that's gone again.
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