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AoSHQ Podcast #144: Mollie Hemingway

Ace chats with our favorite of the Hemingways.

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Here's That Hillary Quote Full of Juvenile Braggadocio I Referenced:


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1 There are other Hemingways?

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:20 PM (VGG67)

2 Foist?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 03, 2016 01:21 PM (UmT72)

3 Open the podcast door, HAL.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 01:21 PM (0mRoj)

4 I woulda been first but I took the time to read the content. rats

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 01:21 PM (qSIlh)

5 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 01:21 PM (yCZVl)

6 I can't do that, Insomniac.

Posted by: HAL at June 03, 2016 01:22 PM (VGG67)

7 Ace finally opens up about his secret Lutheranism.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 01:22 PM (gmeXX)

8 There are other Hemingways?



Mariel.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 01:22 PM (yCZVl)

9 Can we get a heads up about the topics they discussed?

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 03, 2016 01:23 PM (U+nHb)

10 I hope you asked her about the lesbian scene in Personal Best.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 03, 2016 01:24 PM (vaR50)

11 ace if you could be tree what kind of tree would you be?

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:24 PM (V8uX9)

12 For whom the bell tolls. Wait, what?

Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 03, 2016 01:25 PM (vtcmf)

13 There are other Hemingways?




-----------------


Mariel.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 01:22 PM (yCZVl)


The guy who does the Dos Equis commercials, I think he's a Hemingway.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 01:25 PM (TOk1P)

14 Ace finally opens up about his secret Lutheranism.>>>

The jello salad get's them every time.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 01:25 PM (tf9Ne)

15 Well... fuck this place.

Posted by: zombie Earnest Hemingway at June 03, 2016 01:26 PM (H9MG5)

16 Spirit of THE Radio?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 01:26 PM (IqV8l)

17 Is Ms Hemingway named after drugs or the revolutionary heroine ?

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:26 PM (V8uX9)

18 Ace finally opens up about his secret Lutheranism.

Jello salad sacrament.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 03, 2016 01:26 PM (vtcmf)

19 i think she's named after her husband mark hemingway

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)

20 11 ace if you could be tree what kind of tree would you be?

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:24 PM (V8uX9)



Ace, boxers or briefs?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 01:27 PM (yCZVl)

21 Anybody else on droids getting a Virus Warning!!!1! on the home page?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 01:28 PM (jeVt0)

22 >>i think she's named after her husband mark hemingway


Like a stage name?

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:28 PM (VGG67)

23 Mollie Mark Hemingway? Interesting .

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:29 PM (V8uX9)

24 Can we talk about happy things before my eye twitches out of my head?

For example. Peach Hate Shakes are back.

My beloved Indians had two back to back walk off wins. (Which means they'll find a way to score negative runs today but whateverhands).

It's Friday.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 01:29 PM (mf5HN)

25 >>>Is Ms Hemingway named after drugs or the revolutionary heroine ?
Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:26 PM (V8uX9)<<<



She's the one did the Cuban boat thing.

Posted by: that guy that that gets everything wrong at June 03, 2016 01:29 PM (H9MG5)

26 >>Anybody else on droids getting a Virus Warning!!!1! on the home page?


Don't worry. Ace has had all of his shots.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:29 PM (VGG67)

27 i think she's named after her husband mark hemingway

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)


Such an unusual name, that's a pretty remarkable coincidence they have the same last name, don't you think?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (TOk1P)

28 I had a crush on Margaux.

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (v0YLX)

29 It's Friday!

Posted by: Rebecca Black at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (VGG67)

30 I understand that Ernie enjoyed a fine bourbon, or three. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (vtcmf)

31 These are not the droids you're looking for.

Posted by: NSA Hackers at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (QM5S2)

32 i didn't like either of the hemingway actresses, didn't think either was attractive.

didn't get it.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (dciA+)

33 Yeah well the lyrics were retranslated from Chinese by those persons who write appliance manuals

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (jeVt0)

34 Mollie Hemingway? The long-time Trump supporter? That Mollie Hemingway?

I kid. Oh, how I kid.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:32 PM (JBggj)

35 Earnest was a hack. Everything he is praised for doing, Dashiell Hammett did better. Ernie just became a darling of the elite so they endlessly praise him.

I thought Mariel was kinda pretty though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 01:32 PM (39g3+)

36 So it's a show about fishing?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 01:32 PM (PLnZs)

37
So it's a show about fishing?

Posted by: andycanuck>>>

Is it like 20 hours long?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 01:33 PM (tf9Ne)

38 You know I can't do that, Dave. It drives thread traffic down.

I suggest posting a Michelle Fields thread instead.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 03, 2016 01:33 PM (PLnZs)

39 Not really digging the 'Hillary instead of Donald because strong powerful woman' vibe.

I'm sure it's just me.

And being pissed off. Again.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 01:34 PM (4ng05)

40 True Fact : Mollie Hemingway never goes fishing without bringing salt and a lime.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:34 PM (VGG67)

41 Is this the bass thread?

Posted by: That girl who always says... at June 03, 2016 01:34 PM (vtcmf)

42 I did enjoy Mollie's take down of Dana Milbank.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:34 PM (V8uX9)

43 i didn't like either of the hemingway actresses, didn't think either was attractive.



didn't get it.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:30 PM (dciA+)


Most actresses, I assume have to provide head shots to the casting directors. Those girls would not have needed head shots. Just copies of their birth certificate, with "name of father" prominently highlighted.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 01:35 PM (TOk1P)

44 Hemingway "rebutted" Trump's claim that his judge is a Mexican by pointing out that the judge is an American. Someone should put some knowledge to her regarding dual citizenship.

Yes, the judge was born in America, so under existing constitutional interpretation, he was an American citizen at birth. However, his parents were both Mexican citizens, which means the judge was a Mexican citizen at birth.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 03, 2016 01:35 PM (R+30W)

45 >>Is this the bass thread?

Mind if I de-Sock?

Posted by: Flea at June 03, 2016 01:36 PM (VGG67)

46 E. Hemingway always reminds me that the victors didn't write the history regard to the Spanish Civil War. The exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:37 PM (V8uX9)

47 Oh yeah yeah it IS Friday

Gotta check the news dumps and then see who the Muslims killed this time.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 01:37 PM (jeVt0)

48 We went to the place. It was bright and clean. There were things there, violent things. They were done violently, but cleanly. Then, we went elsewhere. That was good.

Posted by: Zombie Ernest Hemingway at June 03, 2016 01:37 PM (g6yUI)

49 >>>44 Hemingway "rebutted" Trump's claim that his judge is a Mexican by pointing out that the judge is an American. Someone should put some knowledge to her regarding dual citizenship.

Yes, the judge was born in America, so under existing constitutional interpretation, he was an American citizen at birth. However, his parents were both Mexican citizens, which means the judge was a Mexican citizen at birth.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 03, 2016 01:35 PM (R+30W)

_________

If a brutal and bloody war broke out and both nations drafted the judge - which side would he fight on?

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 03, 2016 01:38 PM (10hEu)

50 Here's a true thing about me. My wife and I have the same last name. Her family came from Russia/Poland/Germany and was "Americanized" into my relatively common Scots-Irish last name. In fact, we met at a bookstore where I was a Manager and she was a part-time employee. The second day she was there someone asked me if "my sister" was the new girl in Non-Fiction. (I knew that couldn't be right. My sister has a lot of good qualities, but she's not exactly a bookstore type of gal.)

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 01:38 PM (2cS/G)

51

totalitarianism cont... ( from NewsBusters.org )

Levin Cites NewsBusters in Ripping Obama as 'the Most Vicious, Vile Attack President' Ever

http://bit.ly/1PafuZz

but, there's more of course

Citing a Washington Times story (now since updated with different wording) as "a perfect example" of "what he doesn't say," Levin explained a proposed ( and now on hold ) bill in the "one state party" California to criminalize views that don't embrace climate change:

In The Washington Times today, "landmark California bill" it's one state -- a one state party right now in California. "Landmark California bill" would prosecute climate change skeptics. You want to hear this? "A landmark California bill," writes Valerie Richardson, "gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have 'deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.'"

Levin added that this proposed legislation represents "totalitarianism, pure and simple" and thanks to "a clownish -- clownish President," things like this are becoming more and more frequent...


He's too kind with the "clown" descriptor.

The Sun is calling...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 01:38 PM (qCMvj)

52 I've already listened. Enjoyed the conspiracy talk and the shadow people discussion. I disagree with Mollie Hemingway and Ace to a lesser extent taking issue with Trump's questioning of the judge's objectivity vis a vis the Trump University case. I think it's very pertinent that the judge is connected to La Raza.

Granted, I think Trump should make an issue of that instead of him being of Mexican heritage. But as Ace has said many times Trump is very blunt and is going to put things in the worst possible light.

Thanks for the podcast Ace. Thanks to Andy for putting it together.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 03, 2016 01:39 PM (BDZWU)

53 My Aunt, my mothers sister, was a Campbell and married a Campbell.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:39 PM (V8uX9)

54 I like Mollie's writing. I'll give the podcast a listen this weekend.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (gyKtp)

55 The one Hemingway actress had a weird mouth and sounded goofy. The only thing she had going for her was her last name. Everything else about her was cringe inducing.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (ZnIt3)

56 48 We went to the place. It was bright and clean. There were things there, violent things. They were done violently, but cleanly. Then, we went elsewhere. That was good.

...

The gray hills trooped off into the distance like elephants.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (dciA+)

57 Can we talk about happy things before my eye twitches out of my head?



For example. Peach Hate Shakes are back.



My beloved Indians had two back to back walk off wins. (Which means
they'll find a way to score negative runs today but whateverhands).



It's Friday.



Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 01:29 PM (mf5HN)


One of my fondest memories of my youth was driving to Cleveland by myself to watch an Indians game at the Mistake by the Lake.


It might have been April, or early May. Cold as heck before the end of the game. Of all the stadiums I have visited, that one was the closest I got to a "real authentic" olde tyme stadium feel.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (TOk1P)

58 Ernest Hemingway's "Happy Hour" included knocking back adult beverages while listening to Che's firing squads punching holes through the bodies of true freedom fighters.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (JBggj)

59 >>>I've already listened. Enjoyed the conspiracy talk and the shadow people discussion.

where do you come down on the Shadow People Origin debate?

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (dciA+)

60 Margaux Hemingway was the first model to make a million per day. Then she decided to be a movie star. Her first movie was "Lipstick". Pretty much ended her career.

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 01:41 PM (v0YLX)

61 What's kind of annoying is that my last name has two common spellings and they had to pick the wrong one.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 01:41 PM (2cS/G)

62 i rather like hemingway (ernest) for about 80 pages then he becomes rather tedious, doesn't he?

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:41 PM (dciA+)

63 "I think it's very pertinent that the judge is connected to La Raza."

No judge would ever be allowed to occupy the bench while having proven ties to a white-supremacist outfit. La Raza (note that definite article) is a brown-supremacist movement.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 01:43 PM (noWW6)

64 Ernest Hemingway's "Happy Hour" included knocking back adult beverages
while listening to Che's firing squads punching holes through the bodies
of true freedom fighters.


Get it right. I offered those poor bastids a last shot and a smoke.

Posted by: Zombie Ernie at June 03, 2016 01:43 PM (vtcmf)

65 Eh, not thrilled with Ms.Hemingway or The Federalist for that matter.

Posted by: AM at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (bVGl6)

66 At that event, he said, "I will be funded and fueled not by the billionaires, but by working people across America who will find out that $15 and $25 a month contributions can take us from Hope to higher ground. If you want to give a million dollars, please do it, but most can't."

He later told the FEC it was a joke, and the FEC staff report on the issue noted that Huckabee even changed his demeanor when he said it to reinforce that he wasn't serious. "We conclude that an objective listener would not reasonably have understood that Huckabee in fact solicited million-dollar contributions. Rather, he appeared, to be making a humorous aside in the course of his speech," said the just released staff report that recommended that a complaint against the former Arkansas governor be dismissed.

The two Democrats backed legal enforcement of the claim that Huckabee was actively urging supporters to contribute more than the legal limits of $2,700. The complaint against Huckabee said that he was actually soliciting big dollar contributions for an affiliated political action committee, but he never mentioned it in his speech.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (e8kgV)

67 If a brutal and bloody war broke out and both nations drafted the judge - which side would he fight on?

The communist side.

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (v0YLX)

68 i re-read (or tried to) the Sun Also Rises which had impressed me as a high schooler.

For 80 pages, I was really impressed by his lean style.

Then... well, it just became more random simple sentences piled atop each other.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (dciA+)

69 Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:41 PM (dciA+)

The Old Man and the Sea fits that example for me. I guess there was a lesson I was supposed to learn.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (V8uX9)

70 62 i rather like hemingway (ernest) for about 80 pages then he becomes rather tedious, doesn't he?
Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:41 PM (dciA+)

Yes. Everything must be described in telegraphic style. The protagonist rarely changes or learns anything. The female dies. The plot advances, but then it doesn't.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (g6yUI)

71 It was the fishing trip that did me in.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (dciA+)

72 >>i rather like hemingway (ernest) for about 80 pages then he becomes rather tedious, doesn't he?


I never found his stuff tedious as most of it is so short.

Of course, I think anything under 800 pages is short.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:45 PM (VGG67)

73 >>>I never found his stuff tedious as most of it is so short.


the details of arranging for the fishing trip in spain were about as exciting as arranging the details of a fishing trip in real life.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (dciA+)

74 Hemingway is reading for young boys. The Hemingway section of public libraries is Hairy Reids favorite place to hang out.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (ZnIt3)

75 Darn I was hoping the post would include ace's mail sack response like the iTunes description did.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (sDCe8)

76 The plot advances, but then it doesn't.

-----

True for most of modern literature

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (jeVt0)

77 I always found Hemingway.....and Fitzgerald....depressing.

Posted by: BignJames at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (j7iSn)

78 >>It was the fishing trip that did me in.


One does not simply Hand-Line in a Marlin.

Posted by: Boromir at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (VGG67)

79 if there are any mail sack questions i'll answer them here

i don't really check, to be honest. that was gabe's duty. I never took it on.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:47 PM (dciA+)

80 >>the details of arranging for the fishing trip in spain were about as exciting as arranging the details of a fishing trip in real life.


As a fishing guide, I take offense at that.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:47 PM (VGG67)

81 We went to the place. It was bright and clean. There
were things there, violent things. They were done violently, but
cleanly. Then, we went elsewhere. That was good.



...



The gray hills trooped off into the distance like elephants.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (dciA+)


I turned to my trusty road companion, Merv, and asked "why are there elephants in Philadelphia? I thought we killed off all the elephants in the Great Banana riot of 1962."

It was then I turned, and realized, Merv himself, is an elephant.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

82 >>that was gabe's duty.


Phrasing.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (VGG67)

83 Cut the guy some slack. He was drunk. And in France. Spain maybe, but France for sure.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (4ng05)

84 77 I always found Hemingway.....and Fitzgerald....depressing.
Posted by: BignJames at June 03, 2016 01:46 PM (j7iSn)

What little Fitzgerald I've read came across as degradation with copious amounts of gin.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (g6yUI)

85 The Old Man and the Sea fits that example for me. I guess there was a lesson I was supposed to learn.

Posted by: Joe Hallnbeck at June 03, 2016 01:44 PM (V8uX9)

===================
The lesson I learned is that sharks are Commies.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (JBggj)

86
The Old Man and the Sea fits that example for me. I guess there was a lesson I was supposed to learn.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 01:49 PM (IqV8l)

87 Hemingway did like his guns though. Trivia. Where did Hemingway purchase the gun that he used in his suicide? They still exist but you'll never get it with a hundred guesses. I least I wouldn't have.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 01:49 PM (V8uX9)

88 Ha, I loved sun also rises in high school. For years I've thought of rereading it. Maybe I should just let it be.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 01:49 PM (pDxGB)

89 >>I guess there was a lesson I was supposed to learn.


*hic*

Always. Bring. A. Lime.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (VGG67)

90 I loved "The Old Man and the Sea" when it was required reading before high school. Became a bit of a fanboy, even, but "For Whom the Bell Tolls", assigned Freshman year, was kind of the peak of my peak of interest in his work. When I read "The Naked and the Dead" (sophomore year required reading) by Norman Mailer, I totally lost interest in Hemingway.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (2cS/G)

91 My sixth grade English teacher once told me that I wrote like Hemingway. I was pleased to hear that.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (JBggj)

92 If a brutal and bloody war broke out and both nations drafted the judge - which side would he fight on?

Posted by: TeamRawDog at June 03, 2016 01:38 PM (10hEu)

++++

Anyone who associates themselves with La Raza is suspect in my book.
http://gotnews.com/mexican-judge-gonzalo-curiel/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (R+30W)

93 Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (g6yUI)

They good friends , No?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (V8uX9)

94 Oh that Libya quote thinner.... they did a completely illegal war and fucked it up so now I'm wondering who paid Hilary now either to start the war or to provide intelligence in the afterward but maybe it was more than one buyer

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (jeVt0)

95 a short story i'm trying to read, but not yet finishing, is algeron blackwoods "The Willows," which I've heard called one of the seminal works in the Weird Horror genre.

The beginning is all about establishing his authority as he describes a sailing adventure down the Danube, and that's all well done, and I'm very satisfied he knows what he's talking about. I like that sort of travelogue story.

But I'm a ways in and nothing creepy has really happened and I don't know if Willows are going to wind up being scary or what.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:51 PM (dciA+)

96 93 Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:48 PM (g6yUI)

They good friends , No?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (V8uX9)

No idea, but they could at least keep up with each other's drinking if they were.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:51 PM (g6yUI)

97 "We came, we saw, he died"

---

No fucking shit.

Posted by: Zombie Ambassador Stevens at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (rlfds)

98 I did like Islands in the Stream, but even as a young boy I saw a parallel treatment of people of color reminiscent of Mark Twain.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (ZnIt3)

99 I think Hemingway was experiencing psych problems long before he was diagnosed. He just was successful, as many smart people are, at hiding them.

Hemingway shilled for the Stalinists in the Spanish Civil War, also sought out the KGB and offered to spy for them. However, they never really used him and info he did provide wasnt useful.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (iQIUe)

100 Hey Ace, did you see this crap about Marvel making Captain America a Nazi?

http://bit.ly/1srUBUR

SMMFH!

Posted by: random lurker at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (+tRIN)

101 >>> Ha, I loved sun also rises in high school. For years I've thought of rereading it. Maybe I should just let it be.

in the beginning i really got why I'd liked it, it seemed adult and knowing and naughty, but then they fucking go fishing and I had to put up with the details of different people cancelling and uncancelling and discussions about who would bunk with whom.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (dciA+)

102 a friend is recommending Mark Twain to me, maybe Innocents Abroad.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (dciA+)

103 one week until Calcio Storico (Historic Football) season starts. Go Santo Spirito!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h8flyjz

Posted by: x at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (nFwvY)

104 My sixth grade English teacher once told me that I wrote like Hemingway. I was pleased to hear that.
Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:50 PM (JBggj)

Yeah, I noticed that teachers sometimes did that to build the slow kids up.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (4ng05)

105 99 I think Hemingway was experiencing psych problems long before he was diagnosed. He just was successful, as many smart people are, at hiding them.

Hemingway shilled for the Stalinists in the Spanish Civil War, also sought out the KGB and offered to spy for them. However, they never really used him and info he did provide wasnt useful.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 01:52 PM (iQIUe)

Paul Johnson thought he was probably clinically depressed. That sounds about right to me.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (g6yUI)

106 i rather like hemingway (ernest) for about 80 pages then he becomes rather tedious, doesn't he?

One of the most overrated authors of our time. Thankfully he's not as "cool" as he used to be. Some great films were made out of his books, though, by altering them significantly such as To Have and Have Not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (39g3+)

107 did like Islands in the Stream, but even as a young boy



Who didn't like Dolly Parton as a young boy?

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 01:54 PM (pDxGB)

108 >>>But I'm a ways in and nothing creepy has really happened and I don't know if Willows are going to wind up being scary or what.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:51 PM (dciA+)<<<

Only when they kill a thread.

Posted by: oh, not *that* willow at June 03, 2016 01:54 PM (H9MG5)

109

mrp.

Kidding. Right?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 01:54 PM (4ng05)

110 maybe Innocents Abroad.



Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:53 PM (dciA+)


By far my favorite Twain book.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 03, 2016 01:54 PM (RwwCT)

111 On the horde's recommendation I can attest that the Peach Hate Shakes are worth the wait in the drive through.

As for Hemingway, he favored rum, and rum makes my head hurt.
Actually rum makes me belligerent and get into fights, then my head hurts.

Posted by: IP at June 03, 2016 01:54 PM (aQQbl)

112 Innocents Abroad is a hoot.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 01:55 PM (JBggj)

113 Whats a heming weigh?

Posted by: Version Nine at June 03, 2016 01:55 PM (tbjup)

114 where do you come down on the Shadow People Origin debate?

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:40 PM (dciA+)

To be honest, this was actually the first I'd ever heard of Shadow People. I have a friend who really is into the Illuminati stuff and he would probably say they're were created by them.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 03, 2016 01:55 PM (BDZWU)

115 >>i rather like hemingway (ernest) for about 80 pages then he becomes rather tedious, doesn't he?

Old Man and the Sea is only about 100 pages long which seemed just about right.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 01:56 PM (/tuJf)

116 >>>100 Hey Ace, did you see this crap about Marvel making Captain America a Nazi?

http://bit.ly/1srUBUR

SMMFH!

...

yes I ignored it. Comic books people are carnival barkers and have been doing the Crazy Cover Gambit for 100 years -- some crazy thing on the cover like "Captain America -- A NAZI?!!!?"

Then of course you buy it, and after reading the six comics in the series, you find out he was (get this) undercover the whole time, to get to the heart of a very deadly plot.

(And for some reason Hydra just immediately accepted that Captain America had turned Hydra.)

It's silly. Heroes are always dying, or getting new outfits, or new powers, or getting married, or whatever. Within six months it's all undone.

I don't promote silly carnival barking like this, especially from Marvel, which is part of the Disney/ESPN/ABC Communist Octopus.

Deny them the "heat" and "buzz" they seek.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:56 PM (dciA+)

117 a friend is recommending Mark Twain to me, maybe Innocents Abroad.

Twain is okay in small doses, but his continuing snark and mockery of everything gets a bit wearying to me. I liked about half of Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, until i got tired of him mocking courtly behavior, chivalry, the calvinist work ethic, Americans, and pretty much everything, everywhere.

After a while you stop sounding wise and clever, and start sounding elitist and snobbish. Look at how smart I am and how little and stupid everyone on earth is compared to me...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 01:56 PM (39g3+)

118
Hemingway had his "entourage." He surrounded himself with a bunch of drunk fishing buddies all the time. No wonder his wives were pissed off.

No one has successfully explained why he was discharged from the hospital when he was still doing so shitty and why no one hid the guns.

I thought Margauex was doing well when she moved to Santa Monica. But it wasnt long before she couldnt pay her rent and was being evicted. She fell off the wagon and planned her suicide. I wish she had planned it so her body was found sooner. She had started to decompose and it was not a pretty sight.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 01:56 PM (iQIUe)

119 You know what book I never got through? Confederacy of Dunces.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 01:56 PM (V8uX9)

120 Hemingway's last gun was, I believe, bought at Abercrombie & Fitch, in N.Y.C.

Back when that was still in America. (the Ewok Borough (burrow?), notwithstanding)


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 03, 2016 01:57 PM (v5iqM)

121 Do "sack questions" involve pudding?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 01:58 PM (PLnZs)

122 >>He surrounded himself with a bunch of drunk fishing buddies all the time.

My kind of guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 01:58 PM (/tuJf)

123 >>>You know what book I never got through? Confederacy of Dunces.

the best parts are in the first third but I think, in the main, it's worthy enough to be finished, but just barely.

Seriously, if you read the first five outbursts of Ignatius J. Reilly, which are all in the first hundred pages, you've read the golden parts. The rest is aluminum.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:58 PM (dciA+)

124 Posted by: Jim at June 03, 2016 01:57 PM (v5iqM)

Okay smart guy .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 01:59 PM (V8uX9)

125 i raised the question of whether trump's proposals i agree with are enough to garner my support given the alternative. i forgot to include the influence of thought leaders. if there are any thought leaders out there (ahem) who want me to be a "thought follower", i might be persuaded for a small, really very nominal fee. please contact me to discuss the appropriate renumeration.

you can be a thought leader, too!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 03, 2016 01:59 PM (WTSFk)

126 Do "sack questions" involve pudding?
Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 01:58 PM (PLnZs)

___________________________________________


An article on Drudge says you can get your sack lifted if its baggy.

Posted by: IP at June 03, 2016 01:59 PM (aQQbl)

127 How strange it is that La Raza never agitates against the time when the French ruled Mexico. Unless you accept the fact this bunch of Mexican Socialists hate America only.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 03, 2016 01:59 PM (8ZI4Y)

128
I liked about half of Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, until i got tired of him mocking courtly behavior, chivalry, the calvinist work ethic, Americans, and pretty much everything, everywhere.

The Bing Crosby version wasn't bad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 02:00 PM (IqV8l)

129
Yeah, I noticed that teachers sometimes did that to build the slow kids up.
============

She was a Quaker, through and through, and was upset that my doodling was all about maps and troop movements. And the Dupuy books I pulled from the middle school library. It was quite a scene when I brought my AH Blitzkrieg game to an after-school event.

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 02:00 PM (JBggj)

130 Cleanup needed in Trump riot thread on #562 (at the bottom along with the Cruz thread-deadenders).

Ironically enough, Vox editor being Voxed.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 02:00 PM (PLnZs)

131 Christopher,

my favorite writer is Raymond Chandler but sometimes he grates on me with his never-ending judgmetalism and superiority.

Sometimes he's nicely vicious and witty, but then sometimes the misanthropy and superiority just pile up and you begin to despise Marlowe.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:01 PM (dciA+)

132 I get it, you like Chandler!

Posted by: Ross at June 03, 2016 02:03 PM (VGG67)

133 Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:58 PM (dciA+)

His rants were amusing in their narcissistic style but I was always waiting for 'the punch line' so to speak, of the story.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 02:03 PM (V8uX9)

134 Doh! Doxing not Voxing!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 02:03 PM (PLnZs)

135 Mailbox question:
Have Gabe and ekdahl both abandoned the hq? Was it cause nobody here supported rubio wholeheartedly?
Is there other, more interesting and prurient explanations for the apparent breakup?

Posted by: Slackmac at June 03, 2016 02:03 PM (dU7wW)

136 Ace, if you want to see another side of Mark Twain, I strongly suggest his Joan of Arc book. Little known now, but he spent several years researching every available document and fable related to her life. It is impressive, and in paperback

Posted by: mrp at June 03, 2016 02:04 PM (JBggj)

137 Cleanup Addendum: and Donna at #571 naively quoting the Doxer.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 02:04 PM (PLnZs)

138 Peter S. Dee has the "True Believer" book thread ready to go. Are people ready for that?

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)

139 Awful night and tense day, but our kitteh is doing well at the vet. Vet wants me to keep her off insulin through the weekend because she may no longer be diabetic.

*fingers crossed*

Picking her up at 5:00.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:06 PM (1ZOkK)

140 Are we doing a book club again?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:07 PM (1ZOkK)

141 First rule of Book Club....

Posted by: IP at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (aQQbl)

142 I'm trying to read Mark Twain's 'Joan of Arc' but I'm kind hung up on the fairy tree. You know, the fairy tree where the children of the village sing and dance and hang Garlands from the tree.

It reminds me of that song "Blowin' in the wind" by Bob Dylan.

Posted by: Flower Garland at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (tbjup)

143 113 Whats a heming weigh?
Posted by: Version Nine at June 03, 2016 01:55 PM
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At full growth they average only 2 to 3 pounds for males, about .25 less for females.
They're obviously harmless when alone, but when they get in the seasonal stampede toward the cliff, you could have 700 to 1000 pounds of critters thundering down the heming way.
Avoid.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (T/5A0)

144 >>>140 Are we doing a book club again?

i'd like to. I just want Peter S. Dee to lead it, so we don't have another Baskerville Catastrophe (in which your host did not bother finishing the fricking book)

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (dciA+)

145 (in which your host did not bother finishing the fricking book)

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (dciA+)


Heh. You weren't alone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:09 PM (1ZOkK)

146 Mailbox question:
Have Gabe and ekdahl both abandoned the hq? Was it cause nobody here supported rubio wholeheartedly?
Is there other, more interesting and prurient explanations for the apparent breakup?

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Good question. I'm curious too.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:09 PM (gmeXX)

147
First rule of Book Club....>>>

Always bring a pillowcase for assembly into a Book Club.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 02:10 PM (tf9Ne)

148 >>Heh. You weren't alone.

yeah but the guy who calls the meeting actually has to do the planning for the meeting

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:10 PM (dciA+)

149 (in which your host did not bother finishing the fricking book)

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:08 PM (dciA+)

Heh. You weren't alone.

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So just like every other book club where no one finishes the book. You just show up for the wine and the gossip.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:10 PM (gmeXX)

150 I remember I had a gold chain made for my hemming. I loved that little bastard.

Posted by: zombie 18th C. man at June 03, 2016 02:11 PM (PLnZs)

151 May I suggest a bourbon club. The comments should be good.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:12 PM (gmeXX)

152 Hillary has finally made me realize that every time she opens her yap and criticizes Trump she is really talking about herself.

For example, when she worries Trump presents a war risk to the world she is really talking about her Libya war, her Syrian misadventure and her intention to go all George Bush on the Taliban.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:12 PM (/m8T6)

153 I don't know explicitly why gabe and john checked out. I assume for gabe it has to do with the anti-estabilishment tone of the podcast. with john, his hatred for trump is well-known. I think he just checked out of politics altogether when Trump couldn't be defeated.

now even drew seems to have checked out.

ironcally, I never wanted to do the podcast, and just did it as a sop to the cobs. now i'm the only one doing it.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:12 PM (dciA+)

154 >>Whats a heming weigh?

Liam or Chris?

Oh sorry, thought you were asking what a heming was worth...

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

155 150 I remember I had a gold chain made for my hemming. I loved that little bastard.
Posted by: zombie 18th C. man at June 03, 2016 02:11
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So why the hell did you have to Amy-Winehouse him with all that gin?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 02:13 PM (T/5A0)

156 I'd love for you to have Gutfeld do the podcast.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:13 PM (1ZOkK)

157 i've come to enjoy the podcast more, though, now that I don't necessarily have to talk about politics.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:13 PM (dciA+)

158 Tiny Tim loved gin! And sherry.

Posted by: zombie 18th C. man at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (PLnZs)

159 Hillary has finally made me realize that every time she opens her yap and criticizes Trump she is really talking about herself.

For example, when she worries Trump presents a war risk to the world she is really talking about her Libya war, her Syrian misadventure and her intention to go all George Bush on the Taliban.





Projection isn't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (yCZVl)

160 Rush sucks.

that is all...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (kyAJf)

161 Next time, wait until you're halfway through a good book before recommending it. Sure, gives us less time to read it, but at least you'd finish. Anyway, I figure that with classics like Sherlock Holmes, most of us have already read the book, just need a quick primer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (2cS/G)

162 Doxing may not be cool, but I looked up the house. Like to see the real estate in socal. Beautiful house but a lot of crime near it: burgs, vandalism, and a lot of people fighting - all in the month of May.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (iQIUe)

163 ironcally, I never wanted to do the podcast, and just did it as a sop to the cobs. now i'm the only one doing it.

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FWIW, I really enjoyed the Shapiro one. Looking forward to Hemingway.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:15 PM (gmeXX)

164 The damned battery in the alarm system is beeping because it's low.

I have no idea how to change the thing. At this point I'm ready to take a hammer to it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:15 PM (1ZOkK)

165 I like the podcast. I just turned on the latest, with the delightfully acerbic Mollie H.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:16 PM (/m8T6)

166 i've come to enjoy the podcast more, though, now that I don't necessarily have to talk about politics.




Ace, serious question because I've seen it asked before but never the answer:

It says to submit questions for the podcast. Is there any way to know the topic ahead of time so we know what to ask?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 02:16 PM (yCZVl)

167 >>> I'd love for you to have Gutfeld do the podcast.

I don't know that he'd do it. he's too big.

also there are some guys that do this a lot who come ready for a podcast like pros. Like, they're there to fill your time. Which is a pro thing -- they come prepared to be the dominant voice, and give the host a break.

that's a typical imperative for a guest, and usually the host wants a chance to be quiet and let the guest take over the show.

I actually don't want that, though. I want a conversation. I don't really want or need to be sidelined, as I'm only doing 90 minutes a week. I'm not doing 3 hours a day where i really need a guest to come on and spell me for 30 minutes.

so when it comes to some guys I consider pro, I'm not all that psyched to have them on. Like people say 'Get Milo." Well, I don't really want to. I don't want the Milo show. I just have the feeling he'd come on and do the milo show, and I don't need to do the milo show on my show.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:16 PM (dciA+)

168 I would like to say that you're podcasts with Ben Shapiro last week was one of the best discussions that I've heard recently. Stick with it if you like it. For hell's sake you ought to ask Adam Carolla to join you. You never know if you don't ask.

Posted by: Slackmac at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (dU7wW)

169 Next time, wait until you're halfway through a good
book before recommending it. Sure, gives us less time to read it, but at
least you'd finish. Anyway, I figure that with classics like Sherlock
Holmes, most of us have already read the book, just need a quick primer. Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:14 PM (2cS/G)
=====

That's why I was lobbying for Frankenstein. Short, sharp, shock.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (MIKMs)

170 *fingers crossed*

Picking her up at 5:00.
---
good thoughts for you and teh kitteh

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (kyAJf)

171 AtC could use a podcast partner?*

(now imagining the possibility of that occurring, and space-time fracturing right afterward)





*heh

Posted by: a random troublemaker at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (H9MG5)

172 he's too big.
And I thought it was just that the camera adds ten pounds!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (PLnZs)

173 Ace, you might consider trying to get Kennedy (FOX Bus) on, along with Andy Levy. They might come on if you promise them they can call people "douchebags".

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (/m8T6)

174 >>>
It says to submit questions for the podcast. Is there any way to know the topic ahead of time so we know what to ask?

no. I contacted Mollie literally five minutes before we did the podcast. it's all done last minute. Often I have no idea if we're actually doing it at all.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (dciA+)

175 I just think you and Gutfeld would be hilarious together. And bring the snark.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (1ZOkK)

176 Podcast running. Much better with just two people. The old format of 3 or 4 guys made it very hard to pay attention. So much side chatter and pregnant pauses. Needed a Producer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:18 PM (2cS/G)

177 >>>would like to say that you're podcasts with Ben Shapiro last week was one of the best discussions that I've heard recently. Stick with it if you like it. For hell's sake you ought to ask Adam Carolla to join you. You never know if you don't ask.

adam carolla is a good example of a guy who would do the adam carolla show on the podcast. Now, I think he's great. but I have no real interest in just being the specator for Adam. I can get that on his podcast.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (dciA+)

178 Did Mollie catch that big fish only to lose it to sharks on the way back in? I liked that story and I felt sorry for Mollie and her hands cut up by fishing line.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (KFvpb)

179 (See you later. Work to do. Cheers.)

Posted by: andycanuck at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (PLnZs)

180 Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:18 PM (2cS/G)


I see you're not in jail. How did things turn out with the asshole neighbor?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (1ZOkK)

181 I agree with Mollie-- I hate listening to politicians speak. I turn them all off.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (/m8T6)

182 It seems Vox has gotten around to suspending the dumb ass who was promoting violence and Trump rallies.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)

183 I actually don't want that, though. I want a conversation.
Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:16 PM (dciA+)
____________________________________


That's a cool way of explaining it. Conversations tend to bring up newer topics or make for a more in depth discussion versus someones normal spiel.

Posted by: IP at June 03, 2016 02:19 PM (aQQbl)

184 Have enjoyed the podcasts I've listened to

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 02:20 PM (3wHFl)

185 158 Tiny Tim loved gin! And sherry.
Posted by: zombie 18th C. man at June 03, 2016 02:14
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For the love of God, kiddo.
You fed him a human's portion.
And a whole olive, with pimento no less.
And you're surprised that he went tits up, pre-embalmed?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 02:20 PM (T/5A0)

186 Podcast running. Much better with just two people. The old format of 3 or 4 guys made it very hard to pay attention. So much side chatter and pregnant pauses. Needed a Producer.

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Agree.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:20 PM (gmeXX)

187 >>>would like to say that you're podcasts with Ben Shapiro last week was one of the best discussions that I've heard recently. Stick with it if you like it. For hell's sake you ought to ask Adam Carolla to join you. You never know if you don't ask.

i don't think so. I think it would be two people pursuing their own agenda and not really interacting.

I love Greg, don't get me wrong. But I've had a bad run of with what I consider pros. They're just not for me. They have their pro set ready to go -- they can take over a show for a 20 minute hit; they're ready to go and provide that service -- but i'm not really looking for that service.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:20 PM (dciA+)

188 Ace, can we not mention Chelsea, the human nonentity, again? Even her speech habits are annoying.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:21 PM (/m8T6)

189 Asshole neighbor remains unseen and unscathed. I will be taking my PM dog walk by his house again in a few hours. If he's on his front porch I assume we will engage in conversation.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:21 PM (2cS/G)

190 violence at not and ...


one thing at a time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 02:21 PM (/tuJf)

191 my favorite writer is Raymond Chandler but sometimes he grates on me with his never-ending judgmetalism and superiority.

He is a bit mopey about human nature, yeah. But Chandler was such a gifted writer I don't mind.

also there are some guys that do this a lot who come ready for a podcast like pros. Like, they're there to fill your time. Which is a pro thing -- they come prepared to be the dominant voice, and give the host a break.

Good point about some guests, its not a conversation so much as a chance for them to just talk and bask in appreciation. For some its a job thing, for others its just the weight of their personality or force of their outgoing persona.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

192 they can take over a show for a 20 minute hit; they're ready to go and
provide that service -- but i'm not really looking for that service.



Gotcha.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:21 PM (1ZOkK)

193 Also, you might invite that Rubin guy that interviewed Shapiro. Dave Rubin? He might give us an interesting insight to the left. He at least seems fair.

Posted by: Slackmac at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (dU7wW)

194 Doxing may not be cool, but I looked up the house. Like to see the real
estate in socal. Beautiful house but a lot of crime near it: burgs,
vandalism, and a lot of people fighting - all in the month of May.>>>

I Google Earthed it. I wonder why some of the houses across the street are blurred out. And if it is something the ordinary citizen can request to get done.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (tf9Ne)

195
I just think you and Gutfeld would be hilarious together. And bring the snark.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (1ZOkK)









Plus, it'll be amusing to see the interaction between Gut and Teh Ewok, especially since we all know that Gut has a history of......."borrowing" jokes from the HQ.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (gl5Kd)

196 pros that work well are like michelle malkin and dana perino. love them. they're there as conversationalists. when you turn the show over to them, they can take it over, but they don't insist on taking it over.

OTOH there are some guys who are going to do their 20 minute hit no matter what you say and it's hard to get them into the rhythm of an actual conversation.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (dciA+)

197 what does a hemming weigh? carats, mostly. hemming is a london jewelry company founded in 1745. ongoing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (WTSFk)

198 AtC could use a podcast partner?*

(now imagining the possibility of that occurring, and space-time fracturing right afterward)



*heh
Posted by: a random troublemaker at June 03, 2016 02:17 PM (H9MG5)



Hey! I very graciously let BC do all of the very very very difficult work. Because I'm a giver like that.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (mf5HN)

199 So thought Ace was gonna introduce her as Molly Ringwald

Posted by: phreshone at June 03, 2016 02:23 PM (12kBq)

200 Just got back from taking Mom to a nice lunch.

I stopped by a pawn shop, looking for a cheap weedeater. I haven't been in there in a few years. I couldn't help but notice one glaring difference between then and now.

The 100 linear feet of glass display cases that used to be stocked full of overpricedused watches & gold jewelry are now almost completely full of guns. Mostly new, but some used mixed in. Sig, S&W, Ruger, you name it.

Thanks, Obama! Great job you're doing there, idiot.

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 02:23 PM (OmBt5)

201 Well, I don't really want to. I don't want the Milo show. I just have the feeling he'd come on and do the milo show, and I don't need to do the milo show on my show.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:16 PM (dciA+)

========
Of course, you dont need to but most people would find him entertaining and funny so it wouldnt hurt you either.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 02:23 PM (iQIUe)

202 You should get Shep or Geraldo on the podcast.


*runs*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:23 PM (1ZOkK)

203 176 Podcast running. Much better with just two people. The old format of 3 or 4 guys made it very hard to pay attention. So much side chatter and pregnant pauses.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:18 PM (2cS/G)
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Amen. I really like the one-on-one.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 02:24 PM (T/5A0)

204 >>>Good point about some guests, its not a conversation so much as a chance for them to just talk and bask in appreciation

I don't think it's that -- I think it's that that's what they're trained to do, because a guy doing a 3 hour show WANTS a 20 minute break where a hired gun comes in and just takes over for a while while he eats a sandwich.

but i'm doing 90 minutes a week. I don't need that, and Kinda resent it when the guest won't shut up and Heed My Wisdom.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:24 PM (dciA+)

205 Ace, can we not mention Chelsea, the human nonentity, again?

I think reporters need to ask Chelsea about how her father interacts with women and how that makes her feel, like they are with Trump's daughter.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:24 PM (39g3+)

206 We probably all have our favorites that we like and would enjoy to have on. Some seem better on the podcast than others. Shapiro was much better than I thought. But it was more of a real debate - not just snark.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:24 PM (gmeXX)

207 For example, when she worries Trump presents a war risk to the world she is really talking about her Libya war, her Syrian misadventure and her intention to go all George Bush on the Taliban.



I wish Hillary would have a Sybian misadventure.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 02:24 PM (ZnIt3)

208 >>>Of course, you dont need to but most people would find him entertaining and funny so it wouldnt hurt you either.

i can listen to milo youtubes whenever I like. I don't have to be physically present for that.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (dciA+)

209 OT
Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (egOGm)

210 "i think she's named after her husband mark hemingway"
-Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)

That checks out.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (OQ9R7)

211 Ooh, Molly Ringwald. I had a crush on her back in the day. Pretty sure it was the red hair and those full and luscious soup coolers.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (KFvpb)

212 Ace - who would you like to have on, but haven't? Can you say?

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:26 PM (gmeXX)

213 So I guess Ace is back on the Twitter Wagon?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 03, 2016 02:26 PM (KUaJL)

214 I love Raymond Chandler. It's wonderful to think the same high school produced PG Wodehouse and Chandler in short order.

I also love Walter Mosley, though he needs a better editor.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:26 PM (/m8T6)

215 >>>Hey! I very graciously let BC do all of the very very very difficult work. Because I'm a giver like that.
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 02:22 PM (mf5HN)<<<




Most benevolent you are, my liege...


**offers peach Hate Shake and Timbits as tribute**

Posted by: a random troublemaker at June 03, 2016 02:26 PM (H9MG5)

216 Oh, and I think it was there waiting for ace to come pick it up - there was a cute little lavender colored Glock 9mm. It's called Purple Rain.

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (OmBt5)

217 209
OT

Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (egOGm)


I'd love to ride on a blimp, just not on a windy day. I've done two hot air balloon rides. The first one was a near-disaster and we were nearly dumped into a canyon as we landed. The second was perfect. And I have an AWFUL fear of heights.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (1ZOkK)

218 >>>213 So I guess Ace is back on the Twitter Wagon?

no not really. I posted something snarky at MSNBC's Democrat-with-a-byline so yeah that's a technical violation but I don't really go there except to check news and block people.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (dciA+)

219 >>Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the
>> blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.

Check the winds. You can get an ATIS/AWOS from where they're flying out of, I'm sure they'd have the winds-aloft data for wherever they're going.

But they probably wouldn't go up in serious wind anyway.

Posted by: JEM at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (o+SC1)

220 We all had a crush on Molly Ringwald back then. She was adorable and crushable. Apparently a bit of a headcase, though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

221 OT
"Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary."
-Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (egOGm)

I wish I had when I was younger. I've developed a certain degree of vertigo over the past fifteen years.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (OQ9R7)

222 Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.

*contemplates response*

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (/m8T6)

223 176 Podcast running. Much better with just two people. The old format of 3 or 4 guys made it very hard to pay attention. So much side chatter and pregnant pauses. Needed a Producer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:18 PM (2cS/G)

++++

Disagree! I thought the podcasts were more interesting with more voices in the mix. Also, though Gabe wasn't the guy I agreed with the most or even very often, I think he did a great job of being the mc. He kept the show on track and would move the show along when it started to drag on a particular topic.

Besides, someone needs to be a foil to ace. If it's just him and a guest and they both agree with each other, it's kind of a snooze. If you have ace, 3 cobs and a guest, someone is going to disagree or at least have a nuanced take on an issue.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 03, 2016 02:28 PM (R+30W)

224 Ace, how about podcast one of the horde writers?

Posted by: @votermom at June 03, 2016 02:28 PM (7lVbc)

225 209 OT
Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (egOGm)

=========
No, but I think they are quite comfy inside. Probably less noise than a plane. Rent Black Sunday.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 02:28 PM (iQIUe)

226 "I actually don't want that, though. I want a conversation."

And to be snuggled afterwards?

Seriously, though, monologue guests *are* a crashing bore.

I do want to hear guests actually queried, including from odd vectors for which they may not necessarily have a pat answer. And with follow-ups! Which are perhaps the single most neglected subfield of the art.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 02:28 PM (noWW6)

227 "Gutfeld do the podcast"

Get Christine O'Donnell on with Gutless and see if he will say to her face what he said on RedEye. You could have Thaddeus McCotter, a Gutfeld favorite, to explain how Thad is such a better candidate than O'Donnell.

Posted by: dont like Gutfield at June 03, 2016 02:29 PM (jN+3o)

228 If it's just him and a guest and they both agree with each other, it's kind of a snooze.

-------------

That's why the Shapiro one worked so well for me. It was an actual debate.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:29 PM (gmeXX)

229 I have a crush on Mollie Hemingway. She's such a sweetheart, with a high-quality dagger in her sheath; if needed.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:30 PM (OQ9R7)

230 there's a lot of ego at work here. The things, I don't want to have someone on to Tell Me How the World Looks To Him.

I don't care enough. it's either an exchange or I get very very bored and just begin reading on the internet.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:30 PM (dciA+)

231 Has anyone ridden on a blimp?
________________________________


Not for the full 8 seconds... no. why do you ask?

Posted by: trigglypuff at June 03, 2016 02:30 PM (aQQbl)

232 Wait, wut? You rode in a hot air balloon that nearly killed you in a canyon crash and then you did it again?

Ballsy.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 02:30 PM (KFvpb)

233 Jane, did you see that peach Hate Shakes are back? Huh huh huh huh?


Most benevolent you are, my liege...


**offers peach Hate Shake and Timbits as tribute**
Posted by: a random troublemaker at June 03, 2016 02:26 PM (H9MG5)


*sips and noms*

Thank you. I am most benevolentish, it's true.

For all the mocking, BC really does do all of the work. My sole technical contributions are trying to determine which of my internet devices is being the least bitchy and screaming profanities at TWC as my connection blinks on and off.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN)

234 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 02:28 PM (iQIUe)
I'm supposed to go Wednesday. I'm not afraid in a plane or helicopter but I wasn't sure how scared I'd be.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:31 PM (egOGm)

235 Gabe definitely tried, you could hear him straining to stay on topic, introduce people, etc. but it didn't really work. By far the most annoying part was not knowing who was speaking at any given moment. Having a woman on the podcast at least helps out on that front.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (2cS/G)

236 232
Wait, wut? You rode in a hot air balloon that nearly killed you in a canyon crash and then you did it again?



Ballsy.



*buffs nails* Yep. And I did a walking lion safari. I surprise myself sometimes. But let a spider creep across the floor.....{{{shudder}}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (1ZOkK)

237 >>Has anyone ridden on a blimp?


Yep.

Posted by: Tom Arnold at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (VGG67)

238 Michelle Obama is giving an awful commencement address at City College right now. She and her husband are incapable of anything remotely like class or dignity.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

239 >> trigglypuff

"I thought I gave ze order, no more barrage balloons!"


Posted by: JEM at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (o+SC1)

240 the other thing about the Pro Model is that it's so canned.

I don't need someone explaining his latest column to me. Chances are, I read it.

So it's like a canned thing. Just a repetition of something pre-written.

The only interest for me in the podcast format is the unpredictability of it, and that one person could say something interesting that spurs a memory or response in the other, etc.

Minus that actual dynamic, that actual dialogue, why not just write an essay (or read that essay)? What's the point?

The only thing of interest in a live conversation is the fact that it is, allegedly, a live conversation.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (dciA+)

241


Fair enough. But it would be interesting to probe him on his politics. He had Ted Cruz on his podcast after all. You might be able to draw out some underlying philosophy or something. Maybe even state up front, you want to ask him about his belief system (and do not want a 20 "Adam" show).

But what do I know (other than what I would love to listen to).

I'd also love to hear you on Adam's podcast. The audio is slightly better on his end. Maybe invite yourself to LA? I hear Gina is easy on the eyes.

Posted by: Slackmac at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (dU7wW)

242 Christopher Taylor: "...After a while you stop sounding wise and clever, and start sounding elitist and snobbish. Look at how smart I am and how little and stupid everyone on earth is compared to me..."

Are you implying SCoaMF embraced Twain?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 03, 2016 02:33 PM (1CroS)

243 i really enjoyed the molllie hemingway podcast because I had no idea what we'd be talking about, and we began talking about whatever.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:33 PM (dciA+)

244 233
Jane, did you see that peach Hate Shakes are back? Huh huh huh huh?



WHAT!?! Son and I were there yesterday to pick up a couple of hate sammiches and they didn't have peach hate shakes!! Dammit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (1ZOkK)

245 I laughed at Milo's quip the other day about a tranny who accused him of hating him. He said I dont hate you I just want you to wear different clothes.

So, I learned he's not fond of the dress up like a lady bs., his mom is Jewish, he is was raised as a Christian, and he believes in God.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (iQIUe)

246 >>>I'd also love to hear you on Adam's podcast.

no interest. The guest is on Adam Carolla to hear Adam's opinions

Which are funny, but the guest tends to be a bystander.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (dciA+)

247 ..."and screaming profanities at TWC as my connection blinks on and off."
-Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN)

That has been happening to me for the past month. It is at the point where I am almost ready to open my own damn company.

The hoops for that are of course sheer political idiocy.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (OQ9R7)

248 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:27 PM (1ZOkK
That was very brave of you.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:35 PM (egOGm)

249 By far the most annoying part was not knowing who was speaking at any given moment.

I agree, and I think the fewer hosts, the best. Another to work off of and with Ace would be great I think.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)

250 I listen to an AM radio station at work (WHAM 1180)- they have a local conservative on 8 to 12, then Rush, then Hannity... so you'd think they're kind of conservative.

Yet their news breaks are infuriatingly the opposite.... I just listened to them report, breathlessly and un-critically, that 5(!) scientists just announced that the "record" rain fall over the last couple of years was caused by Global Warming. The proof they offer is this: "We say Global Warming will cause a lot of rain. Since there is a lot of rain, Global Warming caused it."

Such a stupid thing to actually report as news, yet a bunch of idiots will hear that and think the debate is over. Pathetic.




Posted by: Dirty Randy at June 03, 2016 02:35 PM (jjaLl)

251 "Ace, if you want to see another side of Mark Twain, I strongly suggest his Joan of Arc book."

I agree, it is a good read.
I think it is free on iBooks.

Posted by: navybrat at June 03, 2016 02:36 PM (w7KSn)

252 a short story i'm trying to read, but not yet finishing, is algeron blackwoods "The Willows," which I've heard called one of the seminal works in the Weird Horror genre.

The beginning is all about establishing his authority as he describes a sailing adventure down the Danube, and that's all well done, and I'm very satisfied he knows what he's talking about. I like that sort of travelogue story.

But I'm a ways in and nothing creepy has really happened and I don't know if Willows are going to wind up being scary or what.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 01:51 PM (dciA+)



Reading Algernon Blackwood is a lot like reading 19th-early 20th century ghost stories.

A lot of nothing, a lot of exposition, maybe something doesn't seem quite right, maybe everything seems alright, and then in the last couple of pages- BOOM-

something happens.

In the good, AB stories that something throws a light back on what you thought you knew, and can give you chills.

On the bad ones, meh.


I don't remember "The Willows", though I read it or actually any AB stories.

I'm guessing I wasn't very impressed.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 03, 2016 02:37 PM (0cMkb)

253 I wonder how MB Dougherty / Ace podcast would be. You two seem very similar. I can at times find him quite insightful and at other times infuriating.

Posted by: SH at June 03, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)

254 243 i really enjoyed the molllie hemingway podcast because I had no idea what we'd be talking about, and we began talking about whatever.

Posted by: ace
-------------------
I'd like to hear somebody like Gary Sinese. Solid conservative, but not a professional political talking head.
One of my favorite podcasts out there used to be Kevin Pollack Chat Show. Just interesting and fun conversation going wherever it goes.

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 02:37 PM (OmBt5)

255 But let a spider creep across the floor.....{{{shudder}}}

What if its one of those cute lil' peacock jumping spiders?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:38 PM (39g3+)

256 It would be interesting to have one of the Trump kids as a guest, like Ivanka, and then not talk about their dad at all.
Psyche!

Posted by: @votermom at June 03, 2016 02:38 PM (7lVbc)

257 A walking lion safari taint nuthin' compared to eating a bunch of sand at Drake's Beach after a semi-unsuccessful hang glider landing.

Oh, the tales I could tell.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 02:38 PM (KFvpb)

258 209 OT
Has anyone ridden on a blimp? I was asked to ride on the blimp but I'm not sure if it will be scary.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:25 PM (egOGm)


---------------


Yes I have. Do it! It was the most enjoyable flight experiences I've ever had.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (Fmupd)

259 Poor little oldest kitteh is sad. Looking around for her sister.

Can't wait for 5:00 to get here to pick younger kitteh up from the vet. Praying the vet is right and no more diabetes. And I hope to hell to never, ever experience an animal having a severe seizure again. I thought she'd died in my arms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (1ZOkK)

260 ace: Pro Model and "I don't need someone explaining his latest column to me. Chances are, I read it."

How many people of the commentariat are bona fide dynamic, interesting, and frightfully clever in realtime? It's a pretty tall order. It's no wonder they go into a regurgitation. They've invested lots of neurons on an issue and it's fresh in their heads. Switching to random topics in a terribly interesting manner is a real challenge. Very few are truly capable of it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (1CroS)

261 One of my favorite podcasts out there used to be Kevin Pollack Chat Show.

That is a good one, just guys talking and usually quite funny or interesting. I've long been a fan of his though

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (39g3+)

262 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (1ZOkK)
I hope your kitty is alright.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:40 PM (egOGm)

263 Does anyone here live in Charlotte? Has the Observer been criticized for telling people to get over having men in the girls locker rooms?

Since I really hate being lectured to by know-it-all leftists and that editorial really sticks in my craw.

Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:40 PM (/m8T6)

264 Nood

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 02:40 PM (3wHFl)

265 >>>One of my favorite podcasts out there used to be Kevin Pollack Chat Show. Just interesting and fun conversation going wherever it goes.

plus impressions.

a guy whose name I don't know, maybe Daniel Dratch, a co-creator or co-producer of "Monk," used to begin his podcast with the prayer, "God grant me success in my business ventures and productions, and God grant me the satisfaction of seeing the business ventures and productions of my enemies, and friends, fail, and let me be praised and envied by them" or something.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:41 PM (dciA+)

266 262
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (1ZOkK)

I hope your kitty is alright.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:40 PM (egOGm)


Thanks. They're doing another blood workup at 3:00.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:41 PM (1ZOkK)

267 It would be interesting to have one of the Trump kids as a guest, like Ivanka, and then not talk about their dad at all.

I think that approach is brilliant. Have Jewel Shepard on and talk about her books instead of her boobs. Have people on and ask them about other stuff than their usual interview fodder, because that's when it gets interesting. And I expect they really appreciate it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)

268 Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (

Adam is getting tiresome. Its 99% constant bitching. And he's very inconsistent. Still funny at times.

I would recommend borrowing from him and others , and a create a game you and your guests can play and the listening audience can play at home. I suggested before a ' what political figure or pundit said it quote' multiple choice game.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 02:41 PM (V8uX9)

269 Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 02:39 PM (Fmupd)
It wasn't scary was it? I know it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to ride on the Goodyear blimp. I'm going on Wednesday.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 03, 2016 02:42 PM (egOGm)

270 >>>How many people of the commentariat are bona fide dynamic, interesting, and frightfully clever in realtime? It's a pretty tall order.

i think it's just the model of how these things work. You're expected to come in and Play Expert for 20 minutes.

I don't know how to politely say to a pro, 'You're not coming in as an expert, you're just coming in as a guy we're going to talk with."

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:42 PM (dciA+)

271 "I listen to an AM radio station at work (WHAM 1180)- they have a local
conservative on 8 to 12, then Rush, then Hannity... so you'd think
they're kind of conservative. Yet their news breaks are
infuriatingly the opposite...."

KSFO 560 in the SF Bay Area is the same crap.

"Violence at Trump rally!"

Without, y'know, actually noting that all of the violence was unilaterally engaged in by leftists trying to suppress the Trump rally.

"I just listened to them report,
breathlessly and un-critically, that 5(!) scientists just announced that
the 'record' rain fall over the last couple of years was caused by
Global Warming. The proof they offer is this: 'We say Global Warming
will cause a lot of rain. Since there is a lot of rain, Global Warming
caused it.'"

We Commiefornians were so proud when our very own Senator Ma'am, Babs Boxer, took to the floor of the Senate a few years ago, during a period of low snowfall in the CA Sierras, to describe it as indisputable, irrefutable proof positive of global warming.

Not long after that, the trend reversed, and there was a period of high snowfall in the CA Sierras. Undaunted, Senator Babs again took to the Senate floor, to describe this in its turn as being... indisputable, irrefutable proof positive of global warming.

Say, what *do* you call a scientific theory for which everything is probative and for which nothing is dispositive?

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (noWW6)

272 The only thing of interest in a live conversation is the fact that it is, allegedly, a live conversation.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:32 PM (dciA+)

I agree. I really preferred the older ones back when you had 4-5 people on. I don't really think it was difficult to keep track of who was who, and even if I didn't remember exactly voice was whose, It wasn't like I was listening to a robot arguing with itself. Maybe this is because I listen to a lot of podcasts. As long as I can identify unique voices throughout the podcast itself, I'm not particularly picky if I know which name I assign to each voice. I've listened to the GLOP podcast with Johna Goldberg, Rob Long and Jon Podhoretz, and after listening to them for over a year, I still can't tell Rob and Jon apart, and I don't care.

When the cast whittled back down to you and Drew, I felt like the two of you were just straining for time a lot of the time. The guest show with Ben was really good. I like having a reasoned difference of opinion between people who can make coherent arguments. I'd like to hear more in that vein. Find someone in the right-wing "thought sphere" who wrote something whose opinion you disagree with (to some degree), and talk about it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (KUaJL)

273 Anyone ever notice Gary Johnson's hair looks like it was cut with a weed whacker?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (1ZOkK)

274 Even though Justified is over, as a Peabody Award winning international movie and television star I'm far too busy to ever do the podcast again.

Posted by: not quite Nick Searcy at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (H9MG5)

275 I'm only twelve minutes into the podcast and I'm enjoying the banter, thoroughly.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (OQ9R7)

276 EB White parody: Across the Street and Into the Grill

http://www.newyorker.com
/magazine/1950/10/14
/across-the-street-and-into-the-grill

Remove the spaces.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Bargain Days - 50% Off Used Candidates, Slogans! at June 03, 2016 02:45 PM (hLRSq)

277 While I seem to have struck out on my suggestions, I would like to thank you for responding to my question.

take care and be well

Posted by: Slackmac at June 03, 2016 02:45 PM (dU7wW)

278 "I don't know how to politely say to a pro, 'You're not coming in as an expert, you're just coming in as a guy we're going to talk with.""
-Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:42 PM (dciA+)

Howard Stern has made a career of it. Different model, but it is still a "conversation pit" atmosphere.

...with Stern's probing "edge".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 02:47 PM (OQ9R7)

279 WHAT!?! Son and I were there yesterday to pick up a couple of hate sammiches and they didn't have peach hate shakes!! Dammit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 02:34 PM (1ZOkK)



There was a sign up when I went there today so maybe they just started up today.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 02:49 PM (mf5HN)

280 Say, what *do* you call a scientific theory for which everything is probative and for which nothing is dispositive?


Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 02:44 PM (noWW6)


The Theory of Existence?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at June 03, 2016 02:50 PM (jjaLl)

281 Jane D'Oh, I too hope the kitteh comes out of the vet's hale and hearty. I'm owned by a 12-year-old Calico that's tipping the scales at 27# now. The vet checked her out and she's fine health-wise and then he put her on a diet of expensive low-cal food that is apparently only available in his office.
I'm thinkin' it might be a good idea to cut back on her Häagen-Dazs and dungeness crab too.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 02:52 PM (KFvpb)

282 >>>When the cast whittled back down to you and Drew, I felt like the two of you were just straining for time a lot of the time.

i liked those. It gave me more time to explain how brilliant I am.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:56 PM (dciA+)

283 there is a spectrum of people who listen and people who are just waiting to talk again.

On that spectrum, I am a 90% of the way to "just waiting to talk again." I am just a little listening-curious.

This is sort of why I don't like guests like, um, let's say his initials are JG. I don't care enough to listen, and he makes me wait too long to talk again.

Posted by: ace at June 03, 2016 02:57 PM (dciA+)

284 A future possibility for the book club -

Larry Correia writes the Monster Hunter series. Four books (and the fifth about Frankenstein's Monster as a government agent) focusing on Monster Hunters, International, a private company that hunts monsters for profit. Lots of guns, gratuitous violence, and complaining about the government (except in the aforementioned fifth book, of course).

John Ringo, who's a pretty successful science fiction writer in his own right, finally let himself get persuaded to read the first book. He ended up tearing through it, and then messily devoured the other four books. And then his muse started nagging him.

A few months later, he contacted Larry Correia, and essentially told him, "I wrote a couple of books in your Monster Hunter setting, and I plan to make this a trilogy. Would it be alright if I had them published?" Larry graciously agreed (because that'd be kind of like having Michael Bay volunteer to help out with the pyrotechnics in your next film), and the first of the books - Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge - goes on sale in August.

The first few chapters are available for preview over at Baen's website.

Posted by: junior at June 03, 2016 02:59 PM (mUM5y)

285 ace: "I don't know how to politely say to a pro, 'You're not coming in as an expert, you're just coming in as a guy we're going to talk with."

That seems like a perfect invite, actually. Say it just like that. Set the parameters exactly like that and, to promote your own humility, even start with the "I don't know how to politely ask you, a pro, to..."

Seriously, that seems like a perfectly fine invite to get them to loosen their collars a bit.

But I think I get your drift. The industry has defined expectations and they are pros at being "on". It isn't local, 3:00 AM talk radio, so they've been trained to do things a certain way. The mold is set.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 03, 2016 03:05 PM (1CroS)

286 When will the Citizens get the "Weapons Free" call? How will we know?

Posted by: dc at June 03, 2016 03:32 PM (oY/R7)

287 I guess the next step is Ace eventually alienates enough people that he can only get hardcore Trumpers on as guests. We're weeks away from the full Little Green Ace site.

But that's cool. You keep being you.

Posted by: What happened? at June 03, 2016 04:00 PM (1zARK)

288 287 I guess the next step is Ace eventually alienates enough people that he can only get hardcore Trumpers on as guests. We're weeks away from the full Little Green Ace site.

But that's cool. You keep being you.
Posted by: What happened? at June 03, 2016 04:00 PM (1zARK)


I LOVE how assholes like this wait until the thread is dead before they spout their horseshit.... what a fucking douche.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at June 03, 2016 06:26 PM (br2jI)

289 "Gutfeld do the podcast"

Gutfeld did at least one ace podcast many years ago, before Redeye. He was hawking an amusing paperback book he'd written and had boxes of in his house for $1. He was a very good guest and had a lot to say, though maybe wasn't doing the whole conversational thing ace looks for.

Would love a guest appearance by AlexTheChick so could see who would win the f-bomb contest.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 03, 2016 10:31 PM (8jtP6)

290 Posted by: (((MTF))), Amity and Enmity at June 03, 2016 02:40 PM (/m8T6)

Yes, and they've been hammered here and there. No one to the right of Pelosi has any reason to read that rag.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 03, 2016 10:42 PM (8jtP6)

291 Posted by: navybrat at June 03, 2016 02:36 PM (w7KSn)

Recently listened to Twain's Eve's Diary, funny and sweet short piece. Read all of Twain in my college years and want to do that again some day.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 03, 2016 10:48 PM (8jtP6)

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