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NY Magazine Dramatically Edits Story from "Stop Bugging Hillary Clinton About Giving a Press Conference" to "Why Hillary Clinton is Avoiding Giving Press Conferences"

In both cases, it's an alleged member of the press pressplaining why Hillary shouldn't talk to the press and why other people in the press saying she should talk to the press should just shut the hell up.

But the original said some Mean Things about Hillary Clinton, like the fact that no one likes her and she isn't as good at lying about her lies as she needs to be.

So, it looks like someone from Team Hillary called up New York magazine, read them the riot act, and had the article rewritten to be even more pro-Hillary than it originally was.


Here's the femsplaining article as it currently appears.

By the way, even in the allegedly "unscripted" public interactions she has in lieu of press conferences, she, get this, scripts the questions.


Thanks to spongeworthy.

Posted by: Ace at 07:51 PM




Comments

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1 First?

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 07:49 PM (o/90i)

2 Ahh, did it!

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 07:50 PM (o/90i)

3 In other news, water is wet.


Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 02, 2016 07:50 PM (fC9RO)

4 3rd?

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 07:50 PM (o/90i)

5 Arf. Arf arf arf arf arf!!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at June 02, 2016 07:51 PM (8ZskC)

6 Woulnt be surprised if ole hill does the fart rapin in that family....

Posted by: E.T. at June 02, 2016 07:53 PM (c+7Ko)

7 Incorporating pre-publication approval of MSM stories as part of the regular routine would do much to alleviate this kind of confusion.

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at June 02, 2016 07:53 PM (8ZskC)

8 By the way, even in the allegedly "unscripted" public interactions she has in lieu of press conferences, she, get this, scripts the questions.

Small wonder - no one wants to get Vince Fostered.

Posted by: Zhytamyr at June 02, 2016 07:53 PM (91nzM)

9 Guess she doesn't plan on being held accountable if she becomes President.

I'm still waiting for someone to ask her about blaming Benghazi on a video....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 02, 2016 07:54 PM (Saqzi)

10 Hillary is fun and spontaneous in a completely controlling and unnatural way, and here's why that's a good thing--

Posted by: VOX at June 02, 2016 07:55 PM (Mt8T4)

11 Ace look into PRK surgery.

And Hillary sucks. Her speech today stank of gin, panic, and stale cackles.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 02, 2016 07:55 PM (4ErVI)

12 I'll remind the electorate once more that I am the proud owner of a vagina.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at June 02, 2016 07:55 PM (8ZskC)

13 Small wonder - no one wants to get Vince Fostered.
Posted by: Zhytamyr at June 02, 2016 07:53 PM (91nzM)

****

Even with a plea deal Pagliano won't talk if his testimlny. What does that tell everyone about how fucking evil her "friends" know her to be?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 02, 2016 07:55 PM (KcI5m)

14 Why bother to give unpredictable press conferences, when she is already got the nomination. A reporter might slip up and ask her a questions that wasn't per-approved.

Posted by: Colin at June 02, 2016 07:56 PM (fxoKC)

15 I don't even want to read it. We lost a Blue Angel pilot today, and immediately after Obama's blathering to the AF Academy grads, a Thunderbird doing a flyover crashed. Thankfully, the pilot survived.

Tonight, three Ft. Hood soldiers are dead and six missing in the Texas floods.

I don't give a shit about much else. My heart breaks for the families.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (1ZOkK)

16
Claire Landsbaum - Night Editor at New York Magazine

I write about news and politics for New York magazines Daily Intelligencer long after youve gone to bed. My work has also appeared in Complex magazine, Atlas Obscura, and Slate. In Dec. 2015 I graduated from New York University with a masters in magazine writing, and in May 2014 I graduated from the University of Missouri, Columbia, with a bachelors degree in journalism. Im passionate about women's issues, politics, social science, and comics.

http://tinyurl.com/hvooast

VOX, Slate... Yep. Objective. Also just out of college, so not gonna risk that first paycheck.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (kdS6q)

17 "If his testimony is recorded" Sheesh.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (KcI5m)

18 I am made victorious by terror said the pedoprophet. Goes for Granny Hell too. They know she will get them.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (G9C8E)

19 "Off with their heads"

*hic

Posted by: piaps at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (Ht/4p)

20 In every interview when Trump is asked a hard gotcha type question, he should refuse to answer and respond with "Have you asked Hilary about Benghazi or her habitual lying about her emails? I'll answer your question once you start asking Hilary the same kind of questions."

Posted by: L, Elle at June 02, 2016 07:58 PM (6IPEM)

21 Press Conference?

Like, the Big 12?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton's Yoga Pants at June 02, 2016 07:58 PM (VGG67)

22
Also:

"This item has been substantially edited since its original publication."

Yeah, we noticed.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:59 PM (kdS6q)

23 Wife was just reading me Dan Rather's tweet about Trump's attack on the media. a friend retweeted it she doesn't read his BS.

He goes on about how the media is under attack by Trump and they are all good and shit and should defend themselves.

Now after being fired for deceptive reporting shouldn't he just STFU and be hiding somewhere w/ his huge pension and not bother us peons anymore w/ his slanted BS view of the world?

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 07:59 PM (o/90i)

24 Because she sucks as a candidate???

Posted by: mike dukakis at June 02, 2016 08:00 PM (12kBq)

25 Every day I'll bet Hillary wishes Trump says something controversial just to keep her out of the news

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2016 08:00 PM (3wHFl)

26 because she makes me seem melodic???

Posted by: nails on a chalkboard at June 02, 2016 08:01 PM (12kBq)

27 We should just be flattered Grammy H even speaks let alone deigns to answer we the benighted's queries.

You know she learned this from SCOAMF.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:02 PM (g8Hfr)

28 because she makes me seem charismatic???

Posted by: small soap dish at June 02, 2016 08:02 PM (12kBq)

29 When did they pass the riot act, anyway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 02, 2016 08:03 PM (IqV8l)

30 Nood

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:03 PM (7qAYi)

31 okie-doke, I bet you can guess if Trump has used that. The press would of had a field day.

Posted by: Colin at June 02, 2016 08:03 PM (fxoKC)

32
Arf. Arf Arf Arf Arf!!!
*hic*

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 02, 2016 08:04 PM (KlVdw)

33 Trump is going to bury her, I suspect.

She's definitely running scared here in CA. If she loses her to Sanders, it's on. Oh yes.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:04 PM (oKE6c)

34
Never abuse the "nood!"

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:05 PM (hICj7)

35 Chelsea's baby
[x] Yes
[ ] No

Benghazi
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Bill's pedo activities
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Huma's connections to the Muslim Brotherhood
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Bill's rapey tendencies
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Deleted State Dept emails
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Cookie baking tips
[x] Yes
[ ] No

Your alcoholism
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Your cattle futures trading
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Pay for play foreign donations to Clinton Foundation
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Your stroke
[ ] Yes
[x] No

More about Chelsea's baby
[x] Yes
[ ] No

Your incredible incompetence
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Joking about defending a child rapist
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Your lesbian relationships
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Whitewater
[ ] Yes
[x] No

Your plan to put coal miners out of work
[ ] Yes
[x] No




Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 02, 2016 08:05 PM (8ZskC)

36 Unscripted. You know. Kinda like the way kabuki is improvisational.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:05 PM (oKE6c)

37 I wonder what would happen if Hillary suffered a pore blockage and the smug could no longer ooze out. I mean, would she swell up even more, and ultimately go out the way the Staypuft marshmallow man did?

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2016 08:05 PM (LAe3v)

38 She isn't unpopular, her appeal is becoming more selective

Posted by: Ian Faith at June 02, 2016 08:06 PM (12kBq)

39
Your plan to put coal miners out of work

[ ] Yes

[x] No






What kind of batteries you use

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:06 PM (oKE6c)

40 Press conferences should including plenty of vegetable oil and plastic sheeting.

Posted by: freaked at June 02, 2016 08:06 PM (BO/km)

41 36 Unscripted. You know. Kinda like the way kabuki is improvisational.

Yup, it's like going off the beaten track in "It's a Small World".

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2016 08:07 PM (LAe3v)

42 LEAVE HILLARY'S VAGINA ALONE!!!!


as if

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:07 PM (1ZOkK)

43 Don't worry about Hillary's unelectability

Posted by: Biden 2016 at June 02, 2016 08:07 PM (12kBq)

44 I don't give a shit about much else. My heart breaks for the families.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (1ZOkK)


My thoughts exactly! This didn't help my state of mind. In any event, prayers up for the dead and their families.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:08 PM (wYnyS)

45 20 In every interview when Trump is asked a hard gotcha type question, he should refuse to answer and respond with "Have you asked Hilary about Benghazi or her habitual lying about her emails? I'll answer your question once you start asking Hilary the same kind of questions."
Posted by: L, Elle at June 02, 2016 07:58 PM (6IPEM)



This.

I suspect he may WELL do just this. The press are terrified of him.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:08 PM (oKE6c)

46 I'm a loser
I'm a loser
And I'm not what I appear to be

Posted by: Hillary in the Shower at June 02, 2016 08:08 PM (12kBq)

47 Claire Landsbaum - Night Editor at New York Magazine

I write about news and politics for New York magazines Daily Intelligencer long after youve gone to bed. My work has also appeared in Complex magazine, Atlas Obscura, and Slate. In Dec. 2015 I graduated from New York University with a masters in magazine writing, and in May 2014 I graduated from the University of Missouri, Columbia, with a bachelors degree in journalism. Im passionate about women's issues, politics, social science, and comics...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM

Thanks for the warning, I now know to avoid this woman that appears dumber than my 1 yo chocolate lab. WFT, they offer a Masters in magazine writing? What utter BS.

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:09 PM (o/90i)

48 I can't wait for groping, hair-sniffing, Joey Plugs Biden to step into the fray and unseat the Hildebeast.

The masses will vote as demanded of them for Joey Plugs and Fauxcahontas.

And that will be that. Trump will lose.

Bet on it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:09 PM (1ZOkK)

49 The press are terrified of him.

I really don't think that they are. They're holding their fire until after Hillary clinches the nom. They'll be at him like a pack of feral dogs at the dumpster behind Sizzler.

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2016 08:09 PM (LAe3v)

50 in May 2014 I graduated from the University of
Missouri, Columbia, with a bachelors degree in journalism. Im passionate
about women's issues, politics, social science, and comics.

http://tinyurl.com/hvooast

VOX, Slate... Yep. Objective. Also just out of college, so not gonna risk that first paycheck.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (kdS6q)

Shorter version: "I'm a dyed-in-the-wool, card-carrying Red."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:10 PM (oKE6c)

51 LEAVE HILLARY'S VAGINA ALONE!!!!


Not to worry.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:10 PM (oKE6c)

52
She's fascinated by women's issues?

WTF is a womens issue, anyway?

Are there men's issues?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:11 PM (hICj7)

53 What kind of batteries you use

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:06 PM (oKE6c)

Not a valid question, they've just gotta be Die Hard batteries.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:11 PM (wYnyS)

54 I still can't believe that after the term has ended of whoever will be elected President , it will have been a total of 16 years that I would not have listen live to a word the President has spoken.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:11 PM (MNgU2)

55
Correction: she's passionate about women's issues, not fascinated.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM (hICj7)

56 49 The press are terrified of him.
I really don't think that they are. They're holding their fire until after Hillary clinches the nom. They'll be at him like a pack of feral dogs at the dumpster behind Sizzler.
Posted by: pep at June 02, 2016 08:09 PM (LAe3v)



I don't doubt that that is their intention, but The Donald has shown himself to be pretty adept at street fighting, and turning their shit around on them.


If I were in their shoes, I'd be leery of him. He's capable of saying and doing anything.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM (oKE6c)

57 Her, Barky, the whole damn viper pit wearing orange and on trial for treason.
That's my dream.
Well, one of em anyway.

Posted by: teej at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM (g/2WM)

58 Not a valid question, they've just gotta be Die Hard batteries.

Posted by: Hrothgar


Mini-fusion reactors.

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM (LAe3v)

59 LEAVE HILLARY'S VAGINA ALONE!!!!

Get off my back, I was like totally drunk...

Posted by: Webb Hubbel at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM (12kBq)

60 Thanks for the warning, I now know to avoid this woman that appears dumber than my 1 yo chocolate lab. WFT, they offer a Masters in magazine writing? What utter BS.
Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:09 PM (o/90i)



At least your lab is lovable.

And it takes a Master's degree to make a foldout? WTF?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:13 PM (oKE6c)

61 I write about news and politics for New York magazines Daily Intelligencer long after youve gone to bed. My work has also appeared in Complex magazine, Atlas Obscura, and Slate. In Dec. 2015 I graduated from New York University with a masters in magazine writing, and in May 2014 I graduated from the University of Missouri, Columbia, with a bachelors degree in journalism. Im passionate about women's issues, politics, social science, and comics...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM


Comics is the least stupid thing she's passionate about.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:13 PM (7qAYi)

62 52
She's fascinated by women's issues?

WTF is a womens issue, anyway?


Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:11 PM (hICj7)

Abortion.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:14 PM (7qAYi)

63 Well, I'm outta here for a bit. I'm still wrapping my mind around losing a Thunderbird today (thankfully pilot okay) immediately after doing a flyover for the AF Academy, losing the pilot of a Blue Angel jet, plus the jet this afternoon, and the young soldiers missing and dead at Ft. Hood in the floods.

Not in a jovial mood.

Later, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:15 PM (1ZOkK)

64 We'll all feel better about the country when Hillary fully implements the Alien and Sedition Acts (really good ideas, just ahead of their time) and appoints a MiniTrue Czar.

Or else!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:16 PM (wYnyS)

65 Can't blame them for changing it... Why would anyone want to even start buggering Clinton in the first place? That doesn't make sense!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 02, 2016 08:17 PM (kP16F)

66
Comics is the least stupid thing she's passionate about.
Posted by: Josephistan


Comics like Carrot Top and Pee Wee Herman?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 02, 2016 08:17 PM (IqV8l)

67 Refresh

Posted by: teej at June 02, 2016 08:17 PM (g/2WM)

68 Hadas Gold

Yes. Yes I would. Enthusiastically.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

69 VOX, Slate... Yep. Objective. Also just out of college, so not gonna risk that first paycheck.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:57 PM (kdS6q)

Also Missouri, journalism, and all the hot button issues. A new minted Social Justice Whore.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 08:21 PM (lbcdD)

70 Pravda Press American Style marches on!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (rmw+9)

71 What does Forrest Gump call the kerosene illumination device on his Mama's porch?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (p2X2f)

72 Evening all

Just got home....was helping one of my peeps to deploy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (Ozsfq)

73 The Press is still trying to Crown her Queen....

Even AFTER both Treasonous and blatantly stupid Actions on her part...

The Press is the enemy of the Republic.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (qf6WZ)

74 The Press is the enemy of the Republic.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (qf6WZ)


Please, the AoS Stylebook says posts should be based on something new, unknown, or interesting!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (wYnyS)

75 The Press is the enemy of the Republic.
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (qf6WZ)



Where've you been?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (oKE6c)

76 The Press is the enemy of the Republic.
Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (qf6WZ)

So this is how Freedom ends?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (Ozsfq)

77 Between Her Royal Crusty Pantsuitness and the daily asswipe shitcapades of President ClownCar's administration, pulling the lever for Trump has got to be the easiest decisions ever. I hate Trump, but I can't fathom the metaphysical dimensions of loathing for Trump that would countenance the likes of Obama and HRC as an acceptable alternative..

Posted by: Minuteman at June 02, 2016 08:28 PM (HD7bu)

78 So this is how Freedom ends?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (Ozsfq)


With a Mattress Girl sigh or a Pajama Boy whimper, take your pick.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:28 PM (wYnyS)

79 So this is how Freedom ends?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (Ozsfq)

Freedom has already ended.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 08:29 PM (lbcdD)

80 74 The Press is the enemy of the Republic.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:24 PM (qf6WZ)

Please, the AoS Stylebook says posts should be based on something new, unknown, or interesting!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:26 PM (wYnyS)


Hmmmm... wellllll.....

which will be more effective during the upcoming open season on the press...

Longbows? or Crossbows?

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:30 PM (qf6WZ)

81 Freedom's just another word
For nothing left to lose.

Posted by: freaked at June 02, 2016 08:31 PM (BO/km)

82 79
Freedom has already ended.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 08:29 PM (lbcdD)


And the Republic ended 100 years ago.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:31 PM (sdi6R)

83 78 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:28 PM (wYnyS)

or trigglypuff's left ventricle clapping...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:32 PM (g8Hfr)

84
Arash KaramiVerified account
@thekarami

AJA journalist asks his 3 million followers if they support Iraqis hashd forces or ISIS in Fallujah. 71% said ISIS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 08:34 PM (iQIUe)

85 This thread is mighty slow. Where is everybody?

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:34 PM (sdi6R)

86 Joe Hallenbeck, you mean you couldn't bear to hear the next president's voice - much as we both literally cannot hear the current one's voice and have avoided for years now - even if he were announcing some sort of huge shake-up at EPA, or DOJ, or the cancellation of all the noxious exec. orders on immigration enforcement, or an aggressive reversal of the hostile federal posture on energy exploration on public lands?


These are all very plausible things, though obviously not guranteed. But in those cases I'd think most of us could stand to listen to a minute or two.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (QDnY+)

87
Comics is the least stupid thing she's passionate about.
Posted by: Josephistan


Not really:

Comics Phenom Tillie Walden on Queer Characters and Emotional Turmoil in Her New Comic, I Love This Part - Vulture

How the Success of Marvels Female Superheroes Heralds a More Inclusive Age of Comics - Vulture

Heres Why You Should Be Excited for Margaret Atwoods First Graphic Novel - Slate

clairelandsbaum.com/top-clips/

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (kdS6q)

88 What a tragedy with those Ft. Hood soldiers losing their lives in the flooding. I just feel sick about them and what their loved ones must be going through. Horrible.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (CFc5L)

89 I don't doubt that that is their intention, but The Donald has shown himself to be pretty adept at street fighting, and turning their shit around on them.
If I were in their shoes, I'd be leery of him. He's capable of saying and doing anything.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:12 PM

My wife watched his actual words when he was attacking the press, they were shown ONCE AFAIK on Fox, never anywhere else.

He cited specific instances where they slanted things against him. One was a rally in DC, the headlines said something like...Trump disappointed in turnout at DC rally.

The actual fact was he was disappointed that they blocked off access from the Jefferson Memorial to the Lincoln Memorial. Many more would have attended but were blocked. Who ordered citizens blocked from free expression of their opinions as guaranteed by the constitution?

Now who ordered that access blocked off? No one seems interested in that, including Fox.

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (o/90i)

90 Imma bout to piss everyone off, I guess, but I've posted up thread about the dead and lost soldiers at Ft. Hood today in the floods. Nine, so far.

And the dead Blue Angel pilot.

Jeebus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (1ZOkK)

91 84 Bruce with a wang,

It's why Brak founded ISIS after all...

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (T2Zv1)

92 79
Freedom has already ended.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 08:29 PM (lbcdD)

What are you talking about? People are free to marry whoever they want, piss wherever they want, and free from having to listen to hate speech! Freedom is alive & kicking!
/

Posted by: Millenials everywhere at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (7qAYi)

93 Free is when you don't have to do nothing or be nothing we want to be free.

Posted by: That guy at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (BO/km)

94
So this is how Freedom ends?

Freedom? Freedom? That is a worship word. Yang worship. You will not speak it.

Posted by: Cloud William at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (IqV8l)

95
There must be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes in charge at FT Hood -- a lot of dumb shit seems to happen there since obama.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (hICj7)

96 which will be more effective during the upcoming open season on the press...



Longbows? or Crossbows?

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 08:30 PM


Or?! Embrace the conjunctive.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 02, 2016 08:38 PM (Q7bO0)

97
Yo Claire. How's it feel to be Hillary's bitch?

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 08:38 PM (5o5ek)

98 87
Comics is the least stupid thing she's passionate about.
Posted by: Josephistan


Not really:

Comics Phenom Tillie Walden on Queer Characters and Emotional Turmoil in Her New Comic, I Love This Part - Vulture

How the Success of Marvels Female Superheroes Heralds a More Inclusive Age of Comics - Vulture

Heres Why You Should Be Excited for Margaret Atwoods First Graphic Novel - Slate

clairelandsbaum.com/top-clips/
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (kdS6q)

Sadly, I stand corrected. That's stupid on HGH.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:38 PM (7qAYi)

99 Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (o/90i)

¡ Ministry of Truth practice runs, mi amigo!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:38 PM (wYnyS)

100 I actually enjoyed the "uhhhhhhh......uhhhhhh, okie doke"" speech, because it was so awful it made me laugh. But I haven't listened to Obama live since he was elected.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (rmw+9)

101 Will President Okie-doke make a half contemptuous, half bored statement regarding the loss of the soldiers in the flood, I wonder.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (CFc5L)

102 95


There must be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes in charge at FT Hood -- a lot of dumb shit seems to happen there since obama.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (hICj7)


My not-quite-outta-the Marines son said the same thing this evening.
WHO THE HELL SENT THOSE KIDS OUT TO TRAIN IN A FLOOD????

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (1ZOkK)

103 Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (QDnY+)

I'll just read about it . Both candidates sound like someone scratching a black board while a baby is wailing in the background because rap music was be played too loud .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (MNgU2)

104 What does Forrest Gump call the kerosene illumination device on his Mama's porch?)))

Alladin?

http://aladdinlamps.com/

Posted by: Willy J. at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (LncQn)

105 There must be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes in charge at FT Hood -- a lot of dumb shit seems to happen there since obama.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (hICj7)


The next president will have to purge the top ranks in order to clear the deck of those put in during Barky's purge

Posted by: George S Patton at June 02, 2016 08:40 PM (12kBq)

106 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (1ZOkK)

Just terrible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 08:40 PM (rmw+9)

107 100 I actually enjoyed the "uhhhhhhh......uhhhhhh, okie doke"" speech, because it was so awful it made me laugh. But I haven't listened to Obama live since he was elected.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (rmw+9)

I've avoided him so much I actually started to forget what he sounded like.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:40 PM (7qAYi)

108 Don't see why anyone would be annoyed at your noting the very sad news of the day, Jane. These tragedies have been noted and discussed as details emerged throughout the day.


Saw the Blue Angels' first show of the season in El Centro, CA, their winter training home, back in March. Very sad about the crash today. It's been a while, I think, since a Blue Angel went down.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 08:40 PM (QDnY+)

109 Well, they've recovered three bodies from the rolled over vehicle. Six more missing.

Great weekend for the poor families, while Barry golfs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (1ZOkK)

110 There must be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes in charge at FT Hood -- a lot of dumb shit seems to happen there since obama.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (hICj7)

NO, training is inherently dangerous.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (Ozsfq)

111 Hey Bruce! Did you see the Leaning Tower of Elon come into port today? I posted links in a couple of threads to a woman who was streaming it live. Something called Periscope which I've never heard of, but apparently it lets you upload cell phone video in real time.

As to why it was leaning, SpaceX released photos of the landing. One of the legs really got hammered.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex/27349970361/in/photostream/

It landed dead center, but since one leg was compressed, the opposite leg was in the air, causing it to rock back and forth with the wave motion. It "walked" right to the edge of the deck. If the crew hadn't gotten it secured, it would have gone over the side.

The big yellow crane's got it now, so it's OK.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

112
There must be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes in charge at FT Hood -- a lot of dumb shit seems to happen there since obama.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:37 PM (hICj7)
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My impression, too. How the fuck do 3 soldiers die and 6 go missing in a flood?

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (5o5ek)

113
I've avoided him so much I actually started to forget what he sounded like.
Posted by: Josephistan


It's like repressing a bad memory.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 02, 2016 08:42 PM (IqV8l)

114 I'm watching Ice Station Zebra and when I watch old movies I often look them up on IMDb. Two interesting, possibly connected, trivia points.

1) This was Rock Hudson's favourite film of his own.

2) Only two women appear in the film: One is a barmaid at the far end of the bar when Rock Hudson receives a phone call; The other is seen embracing somebody, before Rock Hudson enters another pub.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 08:42 PM (Nwg0u)

115 I'm watching Ice Station Zebra and when I watch old movies I often look them up on IMDb. Two interesting, possibly connected, trivia points.

1) This was Rock Hudson's favourite film of his own.

2) Only two women appear in the film: One is a barmaid at the far end of the bar when Rock Hudson receives a phone call; The other is seen embracing somebody, before Rock Hudson enters another pub.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 08:42 PM (Nwg0u)

But Rock Hudson identified as a women right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:43 PM (Ozsfq)

116 Most ironic moment of the day.

Barry gives his blathering speech to the Air Force Academy. The Thunderbirds to a flyover, and one of them goes down almost immediately after. The pilot is okay.

Later, the Blue Angels are practicing, and one goes down, with the poor pilot.

I can't even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:43 PM (1ZOkK)

117 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (1ZOkK)

Didn't realize how bad it was at Ft Hood. Jeez.

My not-quite-outta-the Marines son said the same thing this evening.
WHO THE HELL SENT THOSE KIDS OUT TO TRAIN IN A FLOOD????

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:39 PM (1ZOkK)

The Obama purge of competent and politically incorrect general officers has got to be addressed!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:43 PM (wYnyS)

118 Well, our son filled us in on training even at 29 Palms.

Kids die. They die from roll-over accidents in armored vehicles.

We just never hear about them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:45 PM (1ZOkK)

119
The next president will have to purge the top ranks in order to clear the deck of those put in during Barky's purge
Posted by: George S Patton



President Trump can't just cleanse the stable. MacArthur era laws prevent the Commander in Chief from simply dismissing generals without the consent of Congress.

Another one of those things the GOP never got around to fixing.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 08:46 PM (kdS6q)

120 NO, training is inherently dangerous.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (Ozsfq)



Yes, yes it is, and unnecessary risk in training is stupid and a betrayal of your troops!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:46 PM (wYnyS)

121 Combing through a decade's worth of unanswered emails to the Mohammed Image Archive. One of them said this:

" I just want to thank you for a terrific website, that helps me as a researcher.
Appreciatively Yours,
[name]
Professor of xxx
[famous university]
and
Distinguished Professor
[different famous university]."


I was writing a quick thank-you note back, with apologies for a years-long delay in replying, when on a whim I Googled the person's name.

My oh my.

Turns out this person who emailed me literally a living legend, a "contemporary philosopher" on a par with the great philosophers of the 19th century, and has been showered with accolades, awards and positions.

And then I dug a bit deeper to find that...they are also a flaming leftist who has written treatises in praise of the Frankfurt School and "the long march through culture" to total socialist revolution, and so forth.

But, most of this stuff was written in prior decades. They're pretty elderly now, so not much current stuff online in a two-minute search.

Hmmmm.

So I kept elaborating in reply, and ended up sending this email back:

---

"Dear xxx,

Sorry for taking four years to reply -- I get thousands of emails every month to the Mohammed Image Archive and generally do not have time to answer them all. Now I am taking two months to try to catch up on a ten-year backlog of correspondence!

Thanks for writing -- glad to hear that the Archive is helpful to the academic community.

Having said that: To the extent that I can decipher your overly intellectualized and euphemized political beliefs, as typified for example at [website giving text of speech the person gave], you seem to be enthused by the whole Marxist/radical/revolutionary/leftist framework, a fact which I find more than a bit depressing. Even though I myself self-identified as a liberal/leftist earlier in life, my outlook underwent a complete reversal after the shock of 9/11 (or, more accurately, after the shock of witnessing first-hand the leftist applause for what happened on 9/11). I can only hope that you too "saw the light" in recent decades/years (that lecture you gave, after all, was from the '90s), and you are less enamored of the Frankfurt School and it heinous influence on Western civilization.

In my view, any kind of utopianism leads inexorably to coercive totalitarianism, so that all utopian fantasies and schemas, such as Marxism and its many descendants, are inevitably fascistic in their ultimate implementation. So the root problem is the urge to construct a "perfect society" in the first place. It matters not what type of society is envisioned, or by what route one seeks to achieve it. Ultimately, for the utopia to be created, individuals and individualism must be crushed, and then any evidence of the crushing be memory-holed. It is this cycle (the attempt to impose utopia, and then to suppress evidence of the horrors of such implementation) that has caused 90% of suffering throughout modern history.

Anyway, despite our possible political differences, I'm glad I could be of service!

-- zombie

Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:47 PM (jBuUi)

122 Well, our son filled us in on training even at 29 Palms.

Kids die. They die from roll-over accidents in armored vehicles.

We just never hear about them.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:45 PM (1ZOkK)


If you don't train as is it were the real thing ( or as close as a reasonable facsimile can be) then you will not be prepared when the bell rings. Don't assume "bad leadership", that really is an insult to many of the fine men and women in the Armed Forces. Training accidents have been going on since there was a Military. It is why just being in the Military carries some risk

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:48 PM (Ozsfq)

123 Almost the entire state of Texas is covered by this storm system. That's a huge system. We continue to under flash flood warnings until 10:45 pm.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:48 PM (MNgU2)

124 Yes, yes it is, and unnecessary risk in training is stupid and a betrayal of your troops!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:46 PM (wYnyS)

Sorry no.

f you don't train as is it were the real thing ( or as close as a reasonable facsimile can be) then you will not be prepared when the bell rings. Don't assume "bad leadership", that really is an insult to many of the fine men and women in the Armed Forces. Training accidents have been going on since there was a Military. It is why just being in the Military carries some risk

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:49 PM (Ozsfq)

125
I understand training must be rigorous. I understand accidents happen.

But what is not acceptable is stupid dumb shit that causes us to lose a HANDFUL of men during training in Texas.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 02, 2016 08:49 PM (hICj7)

126 Comics Phenom Tillie Walden on Queer Characters and Emotional Turmoil in Her New Comic, I Love This Part - Vulture



How the Success of Marvels Female Superheroes Heralds a More Inclusive Age of Comics - Vulture



Heres Why You Should Be Excited for Margaret Atwoods First Graphic Novel - Slate



clairelandsbaum.com/top-clips/

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 08:35 PM (kdS6q)



I'm sensing a pattern here ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:50 PM (oKE6c)

127
111 Hey Bruce! Did you see the Leaning Tower of Elon come into port today?

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:41 PM (sdi6R)

Yep. Thanks for posting the links earlier. SpaceX on twitter also posted some diagrams depicting how the rocket absorbs the impact:

https://goo.gl/Y4V3NJ

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 08:51 PM (iQIUe)

128 Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:47 PM (jBuUi)


Well done.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:52 PM (oKE6c)

129 Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:47 PM (jBuUi)

I will be interested to hear if you receive a reply back. Let us know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 08:52 PM (rmw+9)

130 I will be interested to hear if you receive a reply back. Let us know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Will do.

Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:52 PM (jBuUi)

131 Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:36 PM (o/90i)
ˇ Ministry of Truth practice runs, mi amigo!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:38 PM

I should reread 1984, tho I remember it pretty well. Seem to be living it today!

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 08:52 PM (o/90i)

132
Between Her Royal Crusty Pantsuitness and the daily asswipe shitcapades of President ClownCar's administration, pulling the lever for Trump has got to be the easiest decisions ever. I hate Trump, but I can't fathom the metaphysical dimensions of loathing for Trump that would countenance the likes of Obama and HRC as an acceptable alternative..
Posted by: Minuteman at June 02, 2016 08:28 PM (HD7bu)
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God, I needed that. I've been barging around in a china shop all day at a touchy artists' forum arguing about the bathroom wars. Some moderator shut the thread down on one of my remarks and I bet I'm banned. Hey! That's an idea. I won't go back.

(lolls around in moronic comfort)

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 08:53 PM (5o5ek)

133
rickl: If we lived in FL we could sit outside and watch this shit all day. How fun would that be?!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 08:54 PM (iQIUe)

134 Well done.
Posted by: Jay Guevara


Frankly, it was a relief getting a reply from a leftist - - a break from the monotony of the endless succession of deranged Muslims.

Examples of my typical emails:

--------------------

From: Care to islam
Subject: fuck to your mother in day time on road

Hey Bitch Son
Listen
Delete This Page other Wise I kill u with find u ...

this is a not warning its realy i am giving just 1day otherwise

i will kill ur tottaly family

ok

maaadar Chod Randi ki aulad

--------------------

From: Syed Zulfiqar Ali N.

You don't know the muslim power. If you would ever being caught by a muslim your head will be cut off even by of me. How could you manage this site depicting false photos of Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH). No one can imagine his images in his mind. You people would be trashed . Bastards, Motherfuckers, Rotten Eggs, Remove all these stuffs, and block your site ......

--------------------

...etc. ad nauseam

Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (jBuUi)

135 Training accidents have been going on since there was a Military. It is why just being in the Military carries some risk

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:49 PM (Ozsfq)


Of course it is. Our son left as an NCO. He had to unfortunately correct a female officer straight out of the Academy, who was giving totally wrong instruction on rifle handling on the range at Okinawa. He did it quietly, to one side, and she was pissed but appreciated our son "corrected" her in private.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (1ZOkK)

136 Operation or Exercise Tiger largest loss of life in a training exercise. Almost a 1000 lost.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (MNgU2)

137 "Almost the entire state of Texas is covered by this storm system. "


Just like last May and October. We've gotten a Hell of a lot of water.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:56 PM (jzvl8)

138
Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:47 PM (jBuUi
-----------------

*applause*

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 08:56 PM (5o5ek)

139 Our son left as an NCO. He had to unfortunately correct a female officer straight out of the Academy, who was giving totally wrong instruction on rifle handling on the range at Okinawa. He did it quietly, to one side, and she was pissed but appreciated our son "corrected" her in private.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (1ZOkK)

LOL...You should hear the grief they give us Medical Types on the range

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Ozsfq)

140 "Jack Kennedy Put A Man On The Moon; Barry Obama Put A Man In A Woman's restroom."

Posted by: For The Love Of God, Somebody Make This Into A Bumper Stucker, Stat!! at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (i48K+)

141 Megs looses out to hanity for fox ratings....maybe all the never-trump chickens comin home to roost...

Posted by: E.T. at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (c+7Ko)

142 Training accidents have been going on since there was a Military. It is why just being in the Military carries some risk

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:49 PM (Ozsfq)


I fully accept that there will be training accidents, but continuing a river crossing training exercise in weather conditions something like a 100 year flooding event doesn't seem to be a rational training approach.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (wYnyS)

143 What precise skill was being taught here NGU?

I think it was "balls b4 brains"

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (T2Zv1)

144 Operation or Exercise Tiger largest loss of life in a training exercise. Almost a 1000 lost.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (MNgU2)

Was that the practice Normandy landing on the English Coast?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Ozsfq)

145 I fully accept that there will be training accidents, but continuing a river crossing training exercise in weather conditions something like a 100 year flooding event doesn't seem to be a rational training approach.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (wYnyS)

A) Were you there? Do you know what happened exactly?

B) Wars are not fought only on sunny pleasant days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (Ozsfq)

146 127
SpaceX on twitter also posted some diagrams depicting how the rocket absorbs the impact:

https://goo.gl/Y4V3NJ
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 08:51 PM (iQIUe)


Thanks. This Vine is pretty cool, too.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/738521331990462464

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

147 ...etc. ad nauseam
Posted by: zombie


Woah.

And here I thought Islam meant 'peace.'

Color me surprised with a pineapple.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (p2X2f)

148 "The Media" is an utterly corrupt conglomeration of inter-weaving and self-enriching connections. The back and forth movement between "Journalists" and Government paid functionaries, mostly by the Left, is head spinning.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (2TUVm)

149 Yep, NGU, the D-Day practice that got attacked by German E-boats. I think.

So not strictly training losses, actually.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (QDnY+)

150 That 13 year old kid in Texas.

That coulda been me.

Why him and not me?

Shit. There's winning powerball, and there's that.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (b0FQi)

151 "And the dead Blue Angel pilot."


I've been covered up today so no news. Did not know about this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:00 PM (jzvl8)

152 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Ozsfq)

Yes. Got shelled by the British because the LSTs supposedly went past the designated stop line. Survivors sworn to secrecy. They almost cancelled D-Day.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:00 PM (MNgU2)

153 If you like documentaries, this guy is hilarious:

http://meadesshrine.blogspot.com/p/shrine.html

I save the videos and watch on my laptop. You can also just watch on vimeo.

The Joe Building and Bohemian ones are very good.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:01 PM (iQIUe)

154 LOL...You should hear the grief they give us Medical Types on the range
---
there is a reason (or 3) why i went into the Retired Reserve as an Specialist with over 19 years TIG.

and tact wasn't one of them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:01 PM (kyAJf)

155 Also the one on the Salisbury Cathedral.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe)

156 My son would still be in the Marine Corps he still loves and misses (although he's enjoying getting his college degree in_________).

The military has become so politicized, and always has been.

My dad left as an AF Major in the sixties because he, a test pilot and one of the first 50 men in the U. S. to fly a jet, was fed up with the suck up political weasels he knew. How he hated them. They loved politics more than their country.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM (1ZOkK)

157 If you don't train as is it were the real thing ( or as close as a reasonable facsimile can be) then you will not be prepared when the bell rings. Don't assume "bad leadership", that really is an insult to many of the fine men and women in the Armed Forces. Training accidents have been going on since there was a Military. It is why just being in the Military carries some risk
Posted by: Nevergiveup
---------------------
Thank You.
I'm staying out of this one, as I know it's heated, and someone I care a whole bunch for is obviously upset today.
But training deaths occur more often than most could ever know.

I say this from very close and personal experience. It happens. It really sucks, but it's part of military life.

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM (IDvUO)

158 133
rickl: If we lived in FL we could sit outside and watch this shit all day. How fun would that be?!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 08:54 PM (iQIUe)


I've never been there, but I have Alicia Murphy's Periscope page bookmarked now.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

159 145 NGU,

The reason casualty numbers are up is force protection over mission...

We barely patrol 'ghani these days...

If this was a great idea why wasn't the other 2.5 divisions on the base training in these conditions?

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM (T2Zv1)

160 LOL...You should hear the grief they give us Medical Types on the range
---
there is a reason (or 3) why i went into the Retired Reserve as an Specialist with over 19 years TIG.

and tact wasn't one of them...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:01 PM (kyAJf)

It's mostly good natured

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:03 PM (Ozsfq)

161 My take: We learn no new lessons. Just the same ones over and over again.

That's why the quality of training and especially NCOs is so critical.

Well, we trained a Division in risk assessment.

May they not have died in vain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2016 09:03 PM (u82oZ)

162 Posted by: zombie at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (jBuUi)


Nice fan base. Always good to be appreciated.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:04 PM (oKE6c)

163 Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (b0FQi)

Please tell me you're not talking about the teacher who had sex with a 13 year old student? Yes, o.k. she was attractive and had large breasts. I'm not a guy, but if I were I wouldn't want to have sex with such a narcissistic evil; person as that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:04 PM (rmw+9)

164 "Almost the entire state of Texas is covered by this storm system. "


Just like last May and October. We've gotten a Hell of a lot of water.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:56 PM (jzvl

Looking at the spin on the radar, it almost looks like the center is right over DFW.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:04 PM (lbcdD)

165
Heard a news item this am where they were talking about the demonstrators at the donk rallys. They mentioned another presidential candidate who had to cross a freeway to get into the hotel where he was to speak. They were referring to Trump but they wd not say his name. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:05 PM (iQIUe)

166 157 Chi,

Yes Chi it does. I am a training casualty. If taking LMTV's swimming is vital to national defense why were the other units dragassing in garrison?

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:05 PM (T2Zv1)

167 Our son had a battle buddy visiting last week from MD.

I noticed the poor kid could not control his upper body arm movements.

Seems he, too, has had issues with the VA since suffering injuries in Afghanistan with our son.

Our son has given up on the VA. After October, he'll be free of the VA and free of the possibility of being called back by Barry Soetero.

Pisses me off TO NO END. These sweet, brave, kids.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:06 PM (1ZOkK)

168 Obama Defends Syria Actions: I Look At Syrias Children And I See My Own

Weasel Zippers

They go to Sidwell Friends also?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:06 PM (Ozsfq)

169 "7
Incorporating pre-publication approval of MSM stories as part of the
regular routine would do much to alleviate this kind of confusion.

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at June 02, 2016 07:53 PM (8ZskC)"


It would be a lot easier for everybody if they would just add their name at the top of the press releases and print them. It is when they try to be creative that mistakes like this one are made.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 02, 2016 09:07 PM (QHgTq)

170 144 Operation or Exercise Tiger largest loss of life in a training exercise. Almost a 1000 lost.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 08:55 PM (MNgU2)

Was that the practice Normandy landing on the English Coast?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Ozsfq)

There's a documentary on Netflix about that. Haven't checked it out yet.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:07 PM (7qAYi)

171 Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (QDnY+)

Yes you are correct. That happened on second day I believe. I also think that accounted for at least half of those lost.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:07 PM (MNgU2)

172 Obama Defends Syria Actions: I Look At Syrias Children And I See My Own

Weasel Zippers

They go to Sidwell Friends also?


Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:06 PM (Ozsfq)

No, future terrorists.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:08 PM (lbcdD)

173 168
Obama Defends Syria Actions: I Look At Syrias Children And I See My Own



Weasel Zippers



Lol. If only Syrian children had transgendered bathrooms. UNLIKE YOUR PRECIOUS FUCKING DAUGHTERS, IDIOT.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:09 PM (1ZOkK)

174 Hobart resident Carlos Villarreal squabbled with Veterans Affairs officials for months over getting an MRI to assess his nerve damage from a mortar attack in Iraq. He finally had the test done 2,000 miles away.

The disabled Marine veteran gets his care through Jesse Brown VA Medical Center on Chicagos West Side, but that facility doesnt have an open MRI, which he says he needs because of claustrophobia from his post-traumatic-stress disorder.

He tried to have the testing done locally under the Veterans Choice Act, which is supposed to allow vets to seek care in the community if they cant get treatment quick or close enough through the VA. The law was passed in response to the discovery that dozens of veterans in Phoenix had died while waiting for care.

But problems with that programs vendor for Northwest Indiana, Health Net Federal Services, have left many veterans unable to make appointments and many providers not getting paid in a timely fashion. Villarreal, 31, was one of several Region vets featured in a December Times article that documented issues with the program.

Then in March, he went on vacation to Puerto Rico.

While he was down in the U.S. territory, he stopped at a local VA medical center. He found it had an open MRI. He had the testing on the spot.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:09 PM (Ozsfq)

175
HAH, Glenn Reynolds does Jackass on Hillary. It boils down to "Hint for Hillary: don't try to be Henry Kissinger if you're stupid."

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:10 PM (5o5ek)

176 A) Were you there? Do you know what happened exactly?

B) Wars are not fought only on sunny pleasant days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (Ozsfq)


A) No I was not there and no one, including me, will never know exactly what went wrong.

B) Yes, in the real world, wars are fought 24/7 independent of the weather, lack of supplies, ratio of enemy forces to your forces, etc.

C) "Train like you fight, Fight like you train!" makes sense, but crossing a low water ford in flood conditions at all costs just doesn't seem like good training.

In the end, it's a commander's judgment call (and never an easy one), but I wish someone had made a different call today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:10 PM (wYnyS)

177
They were referring to Trump but they wd not say his name.

President Redskins

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 02, 2016 09:10 PM (IqV8l)

178 Thanks. This Vine is pretty cool, too.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/738521331990462464
Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

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Wondered what it looked like coming down. All the prior videos have not shown them entering the atmosphere, just landing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:11 PM (iQIUe)

179 My kid made this for art class on her own so when I saw it I knew I had to turn it into a horde shirt

I tweeted the ewok
https://twitter.com/BookHorde/status/738536466196860928

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:11 PM (7lVbc)

180
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:09 PM (Ozsfq)

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Fuck this shit. Maybe you were here the other day when we were talking about good VA centers vs bad ones.

There should be no such thing. Voucher most of the system and permit these people access to the free market.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:12 PM (5o5ek)

181 Heard a news item this am where they were talking
about the demonstrators at the donk rallys. They mentioned another
presidential candidate who had to cross a freeway to get into the hotel
where he was to speak. They were referring to Trump but they wd not say
his name. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:05 PM (iQIUe)


Those radio newscasts are a good way to pick up the Left media spin. It almost seems coordinated if you are the paranoid type.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 02, 2016 09:12 PM (2TUVm)

182
By the way, even in the allegedly "unscripted" public interactions she has in lieu of press conferences, she, get this, scripts the questions.








Frau Gruppencankles really has that "strong, courageous, accomplished woman" thing down cold, doesn't she?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 09:13 PM (LuZz8)

183 I say this from very close and personal experience. It happens. It really sucks, but it's part of military life.
Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:02 PM

Sorry for your loss Chi. Tho it's been many yrs that still doesn't negate the loss. You, Mom and family can be very proud.

T

Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (o/90i)

184 Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:11 PM (7lVbc)

Very nice!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (rmw+9)

185 In the end, it's a commander's judgment call (and never an easy one), but I wish someone had made a different call today!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:10 PM (wYnyS)

Of course and I am sure they will do an investigation and hopefully come up with something to prevent that from happening again..my point is that in war and in training shit happens, people make mistakes, equipment fails, tactics fail, and on and on. And good leaders are not the ones that never make mistakes, those kind of leaders are usually sitting in the rear with the gear ( like me), good leaders learn from mistakes.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (Ozsfq)

186 i was told to do many stupid and dangerous things in training...

i just ignored alien orders.

like the time i was told to drive my 113 down a nearly vertical slope on Planet Irwin...

i said nope.

sgt gave me an order, and i still said nope.

he told me to get in back and he'd drive.

i said nope, i'll just stand over there, get out my camera, and take some photos... then go see about getting an 88 and the medics

the rest of the crew said, we're with him.

the "nco" backed down and we took a sane route instead.

there's a whole lot of stupid people in uniform.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (kyAJf)

187 Wasn't aware of the friendly fire losses at Slapton Sands, just those caused by German torpedo attacks.


Sobering - well, most of us who know such things are already fairly sober about serious things like this - the losses in WWII. Single battles with more KIA than multi-year campaigns now.


And the US had it "easy", comparatively, in WWII.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (QDnY+)

188
Heard a news item this am where they were talking about the demonstrators at the donk rallys. They mentioned another presidential candidate who had to cross a freeway to get into the hotel where he was to speak. They were referring to Trump but they wd not say his name. smh
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:05 PM (iQIUe)
-------------------

Here are the reasons I can think of:

1 - Demonstrators trying to shut down speech were lefties.

2 - Lefty demonstrators failed.

3 - Lefites failed because candidate was too badass to let crossing a freeway come between him and making a speech.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (5o5ek)

189 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:10 PM (wYnyS)

Unfortunately too many drivers believe they can make the crossing. We've had at least 15 deaths of civilians in past two years.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:15 PM (MNgU2)

190 I seem to recall reading somewhere that the British regarded any training exercise where there were not 10% casualties (injuries, although occasional deaths as well) as not training hard enough.


I don't think that has ever been US policy since every injury seems to get written up and investigated but there is something to that idea of training hard so that fewer people are lost in combat.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 02, 2016 09:15 PM (QHgTq)

191 That 13 year old kid in Texas.

That coulda been me.


I'm not sure being in a relationship with a woman who wants to be with 13 year old boys is a plus, unless you're 13, I guess?

Still. 20 something man + 13 year old girl = GET A ROPE!
20 something woman +13 year old boy = dude, score!

I don't get that attitude. She's a sick piece of work, no matter what she looks like on the outside.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:16 PM (39g3+)

192 IllTemperedCur, that is poetry, sir.


"Frau Gruppencankles"

Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 09:17 PM (QDnY+)

193 re the LMTV: the driver is ultimately responsible for where when a vehicle goes, even if a TC or other senior person tells them to do something...

the MP's wouldn't let a civillian truck enter flood waters, so this likely isn't a training accident so much as a total screw up on someone's part... and most likely they're one of the casualties.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:18 PM (kyAJf)

194 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:16 PM (39g3+)

Exactly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:18 PM (rmw+9)

195 Yes, o.k. she was attractive and had large breasts.
I'm not a guy, but if I were I wouldn't want to have sex with such a
narcissistic evil; person as that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:04 PM (rmw+9)

Yeah, you would.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:20 PM (oKE6c)

196
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the British regarded any training exercise where there were not 10% casualties (injuries, although occasional deaths as well) as not training hard enough.


I don't think that has ever been US policy since every injury seems to get written up and investigated but there is something to that idea of training hard so that fewer people are lost in combat.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 02, 2016 09:15 PM (QHgTq)








Hard, dangerous, yet intelligent training is a requirement for a professional military. Goes back as far as Rome. There's that quote from Josephus I believe, about how among the Legions, "their drills were bloodless battles, their battles bloody drills".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 09:20 PM (LuZz8)

197 the MP's wouldn't let a civillian truck enter flood waters, so this likely isn't a training accident so much as a total screw up on someone's part... and most likely they're one of the casualties.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:18 PM (kyAJf)

I "suspect" it was an inexperienced driver and crew or a freak fast flash flood. I know from being around Wadis in the Negev in Israel, they can flood a whole lot quicker than anyone thought possible

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:20 PM (Ozsfq)

198 Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (kyAJf)

Ironically thats what makes our military the best in the world. First the ability of the lowest enlisted to make decisions if necessary and the ability to say no to an order even with knowing the potential consequences.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:21 PM (MNgU2)

199
I'm having a lot of fun trolling on twitter. Every story about every dregs of humanity, I insert that they are a Hillary supporter. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)

200 Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:20 PM (oKE6c)

Doesn't speak well of some men. then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:21 PM (rmw+9)

201 If taking LMTV's swimming is vital to national defense why were the other units dragassing in garrison?
Posted by: Sven10077
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I have no idea, man. Neither does anyone else here.
But is not my place to question any of the decisions made today. Today, by the way - we know absolutely zero facts about what went down. Let's give it some time?
And we probably won't ever hear much.
It is tragic, no doubt. But let's mourn before we point fingers and call for heads on platters, maybe.

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (IDvUO)

202 I don't think there has ever been a Thunderbirds and a Blue Angels crash on the same day. At least I've never heard of it. Talk about a one in a million shot.

I've seen the Blue Angels numerous times, all the way back to F-4 Phantoms. There used to be a Naval Air Station just a couple of miles from my house. They would be there for the weekend, and we would usually go to the show one day and sit in the front yard the other day watching them fly over the neighborhood.

I've only seen the Thunderbirds twice. One day it was very windy and I was worried about them flying in close formation. The announcer said that it wasn't a problem because the wind affected all the planes simultaneously. On low passes I could actually see it. The tight formation was buffeted as a unit.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (sdi6R)

203
Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 09:17 PM (QDnY+)




Thanks. I was just lucky there. I'm really not smart enough to come up with something like that on purpose.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (LuZz8)

204 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:21 PM (iQIUe)

Sounds like you found a useful thing to do on twitter!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (wYnyS)

205 "163
Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 02, 2016 08:59 PM (b0FQi)



Please tell me you're not talking about the teacher who had sex with
a 13 year old student? Yes, o.k. she was attractive and had large
breasts. I'm not a guy, but if I were I wouldn't want to have sex with
such a narcissistic evil; person as that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:04 PM (rmw+9)"

Although it was a long time ago, I was once a 13 year old boy and I cannot imagine that he did a lot of reflecting on her character.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (QHgTq)

206 Ironically thats what makes our military the best in the world. First the ability of the lowest enlisted to make decisions if necessary and the ability to say no to an order even with knowing the potential consequences.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:21 PM (MNgU2)

Yup, and building comradery and trust in the people you serve with regardless of rank

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:24 PM (Ozsfq)

207 Hard, dangerous, yet intelligent training is a requirement for a professional military. Goes back as far as Rome. There's that quote from Josephus I believe, about how among the Legions, "their drills were bloodless battles, their battles bloody drills".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 09:20 PM (LuZz
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I have suggested several times here that we shd be practicing the testudo formation and using our gladius.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:24 PM (iQIUe)

208 This 13 year old boy had older woman fantasy daily.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (MNgU2)

209 But is not my place to question any of the decisions made today. Today, by the way - we know absolutely zero facts about what went down. Let's give it some time?
And we probably won't ever hear much.
It is tragic, no doubt. But let's mourn before we point fingers and call for heads on platters, maybe.
Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (IDvUO)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (Ozsfq)

210 "i was told to do many stupid and dangerous things in training...

i just ignored alien orders."



My dad has told me stories about refusing stupid orders when in the Army. Nothing ever really happened to him as a result, but, it usually involved some idiotic training exercise.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (jzvl8)

211 My heart breaks for the families getting The Worst News Ever.

It's one thing when you get the Worst News Ever when your only child is at war. You pretty much know everyone in your community will be out in force waving flags and lining the highways.

If your only precious child is killed in an awful training accident, he or she will come home in a coffin to (probably) no crowds lining the highways and roads.

It's terribly unfair. Dead is dead.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (1ZOkK)

212 "Stop Hailing Buggery" would work, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 09:26 PM (GSdpU)

213 In before the Scorpion!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 02, 2016 09:27 PM (Ao68V)

214 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 02, 2016 09:23 PM (QHgTq)

I wasn't blaming him He's 13. Teen boys are crazy. I'm blaming her. She's an adult-supposedly An his teacher.

But i would still like to think that some men having been told a 24 year teacher old raped (because that's the way it's described) a 13 year old who could be their son on a friend of their son wouldn't look at her big breasts and decide they'd definitely "do her" if given a chance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:27 PM (rmw+9)

215 If your only precious child is killed in an awful training accident, he or she will come home in a coffin to (probably) no crowds lining the highways and roads.

It's terribly unfair. Dead is dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (1ZOkK)

Yup, one of our Docs had an MI last month taking his semiannual Physical Readiness Test.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:27 PM (Ozsfq)

216 I struggle, as a Christian, with Hillary Clinton as a person. I am not to hate anyone - Jesus Christ likens hatred of someone to being a violation of the commandment on killing. I am called to love my enemy, to treat them with compassion and care.

But she is the single most wholly despicable, horrific, evil human being I have been confronted with in my life. There have been worse people, there are probably worse people in the world right now. But she's in my house, she's in my face. And she will probably be my president.

That's really difficult for me to deal with. I end up having thoughts about her and fury that I know isn't proper. Even President Obama, as much as I dislike his policies, I find things about him to admire, like how he is with kids. Hillary seems completely devoid of any thing admirable at all, no positives, not a single aspect except hard, cold villainy.

And all those "more evil" people I can think of? I can easily see her doing all that they do and more in their place. The only thing that restrains her is opportunity and situation, not any moral code. God help me I despise this woman. I cannot think of anything bad happening to her that wouldn't make me smile a grim, cold grin.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:28 PM (39g3+)

217 Hillary's running scared in CA: http://tinyurl.com/zo92apb

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:28 PM (oKE6c)

218 Very nice!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:14 PM (rmw+9)

Thanks Fenelon!

We added "ace of dads" to the bottom and ordered it for hubby as a surprise father's day shirt

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:29 PM (7lVbc)

219 201 Chi,

I am mourning, read the end of the last thread.

The notion this was a vital training task talks me, and *if* it in fact is then too many units are deficient....

Do recall last month we had a Stryker take a swan dive off a cliff in Colorado...

Something needs examined.

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:29 PM (T2Zv1)

220 An NYPD boss in charge of a unit that probes excessive force by cops was stripped of his gun and badge on Thursday after refusing to answer questions in the wide-ranging federal probe into gifts for favors, a union official said.

?????

But all of THE FAB's aids can do that all day and it's hunky Dori?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:29 PM (Ozsfq)

221 Fenelon, you've never been a 13 year old boy.

I don't think any 13 year old boy who has ever lived would have hesitated to trade places with that kid.

When I was 16 I had a huge crush on Brigitte Bardot, who was 40 at the time.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

222 I don't know jack, but river crossing are risky enough operations in the real world in good weather with hostiles trying to take you out before you get to the other side. So I really doubt this was a river crossing exercise in itself - total screw-up.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 09:30 PM (P/kVC)

223 Seems to me the military is more than demoralized with this administration. I think they're being systematically defanged and under-trained. They don't have the gear to do what they need, and they're being so battered with lunatic crap like sensitivity training and non-military teaching that they can't even do their job. things haven't been this bad since the late Vietnam years.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (39g3+)

224 "This item has been substantially edited since its original publication."

Yeah, we noticed.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 02, 2016 07:59 PM (kdS6q)


"Lies"


"New and improved lies!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (GSdpU)

225 Fenelon, you've never been a 13 year old boy.



I don't think any 13 year old boy who has ever lived would have hesitated to trade places with that kid.



When I was 16 I had a huge crush on Brigitte Bardot, who was 40 at the time.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

Little head >>> big head

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (oKE6c)

226 Not *talks* galls me...damn autocucumber

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (T2Zv1)

227 Tomorrow is Nation Dognut Day. Or Doughnut. Either or.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:32 PM (p2X2f)

228 "First the ability of the lowest enlisted to make decisions if necessary
and the ability to say no to an order even with knowing the potential
consequences."
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LOL... we were convoying up the Coast to Club Bob, and at the first major freeway interchange, the idiots in front of me kept going north on the 4 or 5 Hour freeway, instead of taking the 101 North. i stayed in the proper lane, until our new commo sgt, fresh off of AD, started yelling at me to follow the other vehicles.

like an idiot, i did.

got my ass chewed for that, because i was expected to have known better.

he also got a talking to, but it wasn't on the same subject... more like "this isn't AD, and we expect our troops to use their brains."

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:32 PM (kyAJf)

229 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:28 PM (39g3+)

Well, that's honest and probably the way many people here feel who happen to be Christians. I find her a disturbing person and she's the only person I have ever prayed about "Please Lord for the sale of those who love you, please don't allow her to be President." I also pray for her conversion and that "Justice might roll down like water on her and righteousness like an ever flowing stream" and that she will be held accountable but she may only be held accountable in the life to come.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:32 PM (rmw+9)

230 Our son is dealing with the suicides of two of his friends last summer (one of them, one of his BEST friends).

The problem they had with the VA was the VA wanted to drug them into some sort of state, and they refused. Their parents tried to talk to the VA. Nothing.

Son wears a black wrist band in honor of his dear buddy who killed himself, an no one saw it coming. Son stays in touch with dead buddy's dad. The family never saw it coming.

So, son is active in his school vet organization fighting suicide, among other things. I'm proud as hell of him for his hard work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:33 PM (1ZOkK)

231 Thank you T.
Couple short weeks will mark 45 years. Still stings damn near every day.

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:33 PM (IDvUO)

232 Seems to me the military is more than demoralized with this administration. I think they're being systematically defanged and under-trained. They don't have the gear to do what they need, and they're being so battered with lunatic crap like sensitivity training and non-military teaching that they can't even do their job. things haven't been this bad since the late Vietnam years.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (39g3+)

Now THAT is 100% true. Whether it had anything what so ever to do with this accident is another thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:33 PM (Ozsfq)

233 "I've seen the Blue Angels numerous times, all the way back to F-4 Phantoms."


Love the Blue Angels. They are beautiful. Five-six F-18s flying in tight formation make a special sound.

What's almost as impressive as their formation flying is watching them try to regroup after a particular maneuver. Say a "fleur de lis." Once they come out of it they are scattered all over the place but they have a regroup point. The guy closest to that point is dragging flaps, maybe gear, while the guys who came out farthest from that point are absolutely hauling balls to get back to it. It's all also quite the show.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:33 PM (jzvl8)

234 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:28 PM (39g3+)

John 2:14
In the temple courts He found men selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and money changers seated at their tables.

John 2:15
So He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle. He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.


Even Jesus had limits....

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 09:34 PM (qf6WZ)

235 osted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:31 PM (oKE6c)

Perhaps my post wan't clear and in that case I apologize. I don't blame him. I blame HER, and my comment is about adult men thinking that they AS adult men NOT as a 13 year old men would like to do someone who raped a child.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:35 PM (rmw+9)

236 mean Not as a 13 year old boy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:35 PM (rmw+9)

237 And it takes a Master's degree to make a foldout? WTF?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 08:13 PM (oKE6c)


I'd sooner trust somebody with a master's degree in magazine reloading.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 09:36 PM (GSdpU)

238 Perhaps my post wan't clear and in that case I apologize. I don't blame him. I blame HER, and my comment is about adult men thinking that they AS adult men NOT as a 13 year old men would like to do someone who raped a child.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:35 PM (rmw+9)



I was kind of kidding. The urge to spread the pollywogs is strong. Very strong.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:36 PM (oKE6c)

239 Tomorrow is Nation Dognut Day. Or Doughnut. Either or.

---
Both, please!

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:37 PM (kyAJf)

240 Tough gig being Hillary...Ugly, fat, and a disgusting unbelievable liar...The trifecta to losing an election!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at June 02, 2016 09:37 PM (ZeZ8P)

241 This 13 year old boy had older woman fantasy daily.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (MNgU2)

This nowhere near 13 year old boy still has those fantasies daily.

The only difference was that "older" was a much wider spectrum when I was 13. Now it cuts off shortly before "older" means "tucking your boobs into your socks".

Posted by: Damiano at June 02, 2016 09:37 PM (71OEY)

242 Whether it had anything what so ever to do with this accident is another thing.

Yeah, its hard to imagine its completely unrelated, for me at least.

Even Jesus had limits....

But when Jesus went off, it was because His Father was being disrespected and His temple being treated like trash. I have no hesitation being angry when God is mocked. I don't have to defend God, though. He will deal with it; His own son took care of things that time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:37 PM (39g3+)

243 But when Jesus went off, it was because His Father was being disrespected and His temple being treated like trash. I have no hesitation being angry when God is mocked. I don't have to defend God, though. He will deal with it; His own son took care of things that time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:37 PM (39g3+)

Unlike our muslim friends who fly into a homicidal rage when a mere mortal like mohammed is mocked.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:39 PM (7qAYi)

244 Supposedly I was being born in the Ellsworth Air Base Hospital while my father was on the roof of the hospital watching the Thunderbirds air show.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:39 PM (MNgU2)

245 So, son is active in his school vet organization fighting suicide, among other things. I'm proud as hell of him for his hard work.

That's great! Very important work.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:40 PM (rmw+9)

246 In happier news, the Orioles are treating Red Sox pitching staff like batting practice. 25 runs in 2 games. 11 tonight, so far, on 6 home runs.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:40 PM (39g3+)

247 Unlike our muslim friends who fly into a homicidal rage when a mere mortal like mohammed is mocked.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:39 PM (7qAYi)



But once you accept shariah, the world will be a more peaceful place!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:41 PM (wYnyS)

248
Speaking of the she-devil, I don't quite get the significance of this story:

Bad sign: Republicans release signed documents from Clinton aides dragged into email scandal pledging to protect 'marked and unmarked' classified information

Campaign aide and former state official Jake Sullivan signed document pledging to protect classified info 'including email communications'

So did tech aide Brian Pagliano, whose lawyers say he plans to take the Fifth rather than answer questions in a Judicial Watch lawsuit


http://tinyurl.com/gut58hq

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:41 PM (5o5ek)

249 Make that 7 home runs. This is just ugly.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:42 PM (39g3+)

250 "Unlike our muslim friends who fly into a homicidal rage when a mere mortal like mohammed is mocked. "



Well, I'm no biblical scholar, but it seems Jesus' actions were when he saw extreme blasphemy. I don't remember Jesus getting mad at someone drawing a picture of God and then go cutting off heads in a blood lust.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:44 PM (jzvl8)

251 then there was the time that the HHT commander told us to set up the Squadron trains in a large wadi there on Planet Irwin...

one good rainstorm and everything/one would have been 5 klicks away in the no longer dry lake bed.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:44 PM (kyAJf)

252 Gosh, who knew, amirite ?

*wanders off toward freezer for another shot*

*Hey, it worked great for the Soviets, didnit ?*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (gUoN4)

253 Allahpundit goes full "Daisy Ad' on Trump.
http://bit.ly/287gqJX

There will be a grand re-sorting when all of this is over.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (S2VsH)

254 People, the adults are talking:

@CheriJacobus
S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)

255 There was a time we would have been all over two downed aircraft and nine dead and missing soldiers in one day. I guess it's yawns all around now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:46 PM (1ZOkK)

256 "There will be a grand re-sorting when all of this is over."

Truer words were never said.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (gUoN4)

257 255 Jane D'oh,

I think people are being laconic to cover anger...nobody likes service member life spent cheaply...

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (T2Zv1)

258 Well, I'm off to bed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (1ZOkK)

259 S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)

Oh, FFS.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (7qAYi)

260 Love the Blue Angels. They are beautiful. Five-six F-18s flying in tight formation make a special sound.



What's almost as impressive as their formation flying is watching
them try to regroup after a particular maneuver. Say a "fleur de lis."
Once they come out of it they are scattered all over the place but
they have a regroup point. The guy closest to that point is dragging
flaps, maybe gear, while the guys who came out farthest from that point
are absolutely hauling balls to get back to it. It's all also quite the
show.

Chicago has a pretty nice Air and Water show in August. I wish I knew more to appreciate it like that.

Posted by: dartist at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (qmou8)

261 VDH just went on a tear talking about the NeverTrumpers on the John Batchelor Show. Made some excellent pointscas only he can. Will be up on podcast late tonight.

Posted by: Sid Vicious at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (dBMbn)

262 But I think Hillary is a deeply unhappy and very very angry woman in need of massive emotional, physical and spiritual healing. I think people who have been deeply unhappy and have felt betrayed for so long often turn against others, but its only God who can feel that void in her heart ad soul, and she doesn't think she needs God so she's as rich as Croesus, so at the same time I dislike her I pity her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (rmw+9)

263 250 "Unlike our muslim friends who fly into a homicidal rage when a mere mortal like mohammed is mocked. "



Well, I'm no biblical scholar, but it seems Jesus' actions were when he saw extreme blasphemy. I don't remember Jesus getting mad at someone drawing a picture of God and then go cutting off heads in a blood lust.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:44 PM (jzvl


the lesson I take from that, is that while Anger should not be your first response... there ARE things that all good Men SHOULD get angry about.

Just like Moses throwing down and breaking the original Tablets....

There is Righteous Anger.... and some of us are PAST that point.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (qf6WZ)

264 Meant "doesn't think she needs God since she is as rich as Croesus"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:48 PM (rmw+9)

265 S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)

Well not exactly, but I am still disappointed in her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (Ozsfq)

266 >>I don't think any 13 year old boy who has ever lived would have hesitated to trade places with that kid.


No shit. I'd trade places with him!

Kid had more sex in 1 year than I'll have in 10.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (VGG67)

267 "S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof"



Speaking of idiotic statements.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (jzvl8)

268 There was a time we would have been all over two downed aircraft and nine dead and missing soldiers in one day. I guess it's yawns all around now.

We've been talking about it all day. Its a horrible tragedy about the plane wrecks, but there's no clear or obvious connection to any person's fault or policy. I think its likely but who knows?

Just like Moses throwing down and breaking the original Tablets....

Again, because God was being mocked with idol worship.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (39g3+)

269 This 13 year old boy had older woman fantasy daily.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:25 PM (MNgU2)

Let's face the facts.

Unless they're gay or an idiot, this was every 13 year old boys' dream come true. He knew exactly what he was doing.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:50 PM (lbcdD)

270 I keep missing the Blue Angels. I was at both Miramar and then Cherry Point NC for a few weeks and the day I left the Air Shows started

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:50 PM (Ozsfq)

271 >>He knew exactly what he was doing.


And what he didn't know, he was more than happy to learn.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:51 PM (VGG67)

272
People, the adults are talking:

@CheriJacobus
S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)
------------------

I rather hesitated here the other day to list "Nikki Haley's smile" as a shudder-worthy thing. The precious little nanny has vindicated me.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (5o5ek)

273 Unless they're gay or an idiot, this was every 13 year old boys' dream come true. He knew exactly what he was doing.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:50 PM (lbcdD)

Well, he may not have known exactly what he was doing, but he certainly knew what he wanted to be doing. I'm sure teacher helped with the rest.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (S2VsH)

274 Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:50 PM (lbcdD)

I don't think any one is blaming HIM. She's a sick ,freaking child molester who should NEVER teach kids again..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (rmw+9)

275 back in the late 80's, my then unit went to Ft Hood for AT, in support of the TXNG.

there was an engineering unit who had a much loved member who got bounced out of the back of a truck on the tank trail, who suffocated on his plug of chewing tobacco.

the unit was demoralized, so the CO arranged Huey flights for all.

a chalk gets on one of the birds, it takes off, then looses it's tail rotor, crashes back to earth and explodes into flame, killing everyone on board.

my next to last chopper ride was on my 30th birthday. i was holding a bag of urine samples, and the Huey i was in got caught in a downdraft in the San Jacinto pass near Palm Springs...

our pilot managed to get us turned around (Nam Vet), and we wind surfed our way back to Palm Springs Int.

when we got on the ground, the air speed indicator was reading 75 knots and we weren't moving, except to bounce up and down on the pavement.

my last ride in one was the next morning, when we flew home in instruments through the fog.

i'm never getting on another.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (kyAJf)

276 S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof

Remind me again why anyone thought she was Presidential or VP material?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, ashamed the Horde didn't beat him there at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (D0J8L)

277 >>I'm sure teacher helped with the rest.


We really don't value them, enough.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (VGG67)

278 >>Remind me again why anyone thought she was Presidential or VP material?


Reportedly, she has a vagina.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:53 PM (VGG67)

279 255 There was a time we would have been all over two downed aircraft and nine dead and missing soldiers in one day. I guess it's yawns all around now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 09:46 PM (1ZOkK)



That time will return. January 20, 2017, God willing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:53 PM (oKE6c)

280 Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (VGG67)

You're probably at least 20-30 years too old for her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:53 PM (rmw+9)

281 off to another stupid neighborhood meeting...

see all y'all on the ONT!

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 02, 2016 09:54 PM (kyAJf)

282 S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof


Another potential GOP candidate self-immolates.


Say hello to Chris Christie for us, willya?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 09:54 PM (oKE6c)

283 Nikki Hayley is deeply disappointing, she needs to stop listening to the cheers from certain sectors.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:54 PM (39g3+)

284 I'm sure Bill Kristol is the political sooper-jeenyus he imagines himself to be, but if I were going to run an indy candidate to take out Trump, I probably wouldn't run somebody who writes that the white working class deserves to just die.

But then I'm the amateur here.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 02, 2016 09:54 PM (Kucy5)

285 Some years ago the Blue Angels were featured at an air show in my locale, which we made sure to experience. I had to work during the week prior, but my boys, old enough to stay home alone, spent a glorious week watching them practice their maneuvers almost directly over our house.

Talk about the best of the best. God bless the aviator.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 09:55 PM (jf492)

286 270 I keep missing the Blue Angels. I was at both Miramar and then Cherry Point NC for a few weeks and the day I left the Air Shows started
Posted by: Nevergiveup
--------------------
September 10th & 11th @ Oceana.
Drinks are on me if you're around.

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (IDvUO)

287
I think Hillary is a deeply unhappy and very very angry woman in need of massive emotional, physical and spiritual healing. I think people who have been deeply unhappy and have felt betrayed for so long often turn against others, but its only God who can feel that void in her heart ad soul, and she doesn't think she needs God so she's as rich as Croesus, so at the same time I dislike her I pity her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (rmw+9)
--------------------

We've speculated around here on what becomes of Hillary if she loses the White House, and it's always something sad. Alcohol, isolation, raving anger. It scares me a bit, but --

It's happening because she's not only sick; she's evil. She is blocking the eternal light from her heart.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (5o5ek)

288 So she's not even officially yet The Chosen One(tm) and the media are already falling-over themselves licking her boots. Plus her "opposition" just nominated a bombastic leftist authoritarian to run against her. Swell.

The only thing we (and by we I mean the rest of the world who may not be totally on board with LiB) have going for us is that if anyone could manage to cock this up it's most certainly The Wicked Witch of Westchester.

Posted by: DocJ at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (5Nr9V)

289 S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof

Remind me again why anyone thought she was Presidential or VP material?
Posted by: Brother Cavil


Because white males ... deserve to die.

Which is ironic because I'm bald. The fuck if I know. Haven't see a fucking mirror in coon... oops.

Posted by: Herr Kevindant Williamson at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (p2X2f)

290 268 There was a time we would have been all over two downed aircraft and nine dead and missing soldiers in one day. I guess it's yawns all around now.
---

We've been talking about it all day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:49 PM (39g3+)


Indeed. If Jane was referring to us here, I don't get it.

Much of the day I was at work. I commented and gave links to the Falcon 9 return because no one else was doing it. Nothing I could have said about the accidents would have made a difference.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

291 Remind me again why anyone thought she was Presidential or VP material?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, ashamed the Horde didn't beat him there at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (D0J8L)

Anchor Baby.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (P/kVC)

292 She is blocking the eternal light from her heart.

Well put.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (rmw+9)

293 But i would still like to think that some men having been told a 24 year teacher old raped (because that's the way it's described) a 13 year old who could be their son on a friend of their son wouldn't look at her big breasts and decide they'd definitely "do her" if given a chance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:27 PM (rmw+9)

Yes it may legally be rape, which is why it was described that way. But in reality, it wasn't and every guy out there knows it.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (lbcdD)

294 September 10th & 11th @ Oceana.
Drinks are on me if you're around.
Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (IDvUO)


Maybe. I know I will be there in July, after that I am not sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (Ozsfq)

295 >>You're probably at least 20-30 years too old for her.


Ageist.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (VGG67)

296 278 garrett,

Sacred honor compels me...

//Will Ffolkes esq

Posted by: Sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (T2Zv1)

297 Why are Hillary and Bernie so angry and full of rage?

They speak as if they hate this country and everything about it, and they want to fundamentally change America as quickly as possible before they die of old age.

Some old people are old and weird.

Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (f40FU)

298 I go to any airshow in driving distance & have seen the Angels & Thunderbirds each several times. I like the F-16 better, but the Blue Angels just look so pretty!

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:58 PM (7qAYi)

299 Speaking in Elkhart, Indiana Wednesday, Obama said, "it's time we finally made Social Security more generous, and increased its benefits so that today's retirees and future generations get the dignified retirement that they've earned." As for how he would pay for it, Obama was vague. "We could start paying for it by asking the wealthiest Americans to contribute a little bit more, " he said, adding, "They can afford it."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 02, 2016 09:58 PM (e8kgV)

300 Unless they're gay or an idiot, this was every 13 year old boys' dream come true. He knew exactly what he was doing.

He was too young to know what he was doing, and I don't mean mechanically. At 13 you aren't prepared emotioanally or intellectually to handle sex. He wasn't old enough to make rational, proper choices in the situation. That's why we say "too young." because he is, you know, too young. It doesn't matter what fantasies people have or had.

It doesn't matter how physically pleasing it might be. Its like eating that entire bucket of Halloween Candy in one sitting. Mom says not to do it because its a bad idea, no matter how much you like candy. When you're 9, that makes no sense and is horribly unjust. You're too young to make that call.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 09:58 PM (39g3+)

301 Walking through the park today I saw a stranger approaching who clearly had fart rape on his mind. Luckily my self defense training kicked in and I peed myself. It worked! The stranger passed by me without so much as a squeek.

Posted by: Ashleigh Ingle at June 02, 2016 09:58 PM (VSenK)

302
Some years ago the Blue Angels were featured at an air show in my
locale, which we made sure to experience. I had to work during the week
prior, but my boys, old enough to stay home alone, spent a glorious week
watching them practice their maneuvers almost directly over our house.

I worked downtown in Chicago for 10 years or so and really enjoyed the Air show practice ripping around the buildings. I also miss the young ladies sun bathing topless on the roof of Uno's.

Posted by: dartist at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (qmou8)

303 Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM (VGG67)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (rmw+9)

304 September 10th & 11th @ Oceana.
Drinks are on me if you're around.
Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 09:56 PM (IDvUO)

I plan on going to the NAS Oceana show this year. Had to work last year & missed it.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (7qAYi)

305 Yes it may legally be rape, which is why it was described that way. But in reality, it wasn't and every guy out there knows it.

Eh. 13-year-old me might have agreed but 45-year-old me is kinda squicked and really, really not down with this sort of thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, ashamed the Horde didn't beat him there at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (D0J8L)

306 >>>nobody likes service member life spent cheaply
....

Damn right! Who would hold my umbrella?

Oh, and thank goodness for those heroes in Benghazi! If they hadn't held those guys off like they did on their own, I might have had to go downstairs and sit in the Situation Room that whole time! Freed me up to do the important work of whining to Netanyaho about talking shit about me during and election and chatting with Hillary about blaming the whole deal on a YouTube video. Thanks to them, I never had to leave the residence and was in bed by 10PM!

Posted by: Damiano at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (71OEY)

307 Just sent my precious son home and his service pup, with leftovers.

Thanks be to God he's in a quiet, safe neighborhood now.

He told me today, he's had the first quiet night's sleep in over two years.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (1ZOkK)

308 "there ARE things that all good Men SHOULD get angry about. "


No freaking doubt. I guess it's a commentary on culture and morality.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (jzvl8)

309 Ugh. 12-6 Orioles over Red Sox, like 9 hr total. Not my favorite kind of baseball.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (39g3+)

310 She's a sick ,freaking child molester who should NEVER teach kids again..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:52 PM (rmw+9)

No argument here.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (lbcdD)

311 Speaking in Elkhart, Indiana Wednesday, Obama said, "it's time we finally made Social Security more generous, and increased its benefits so that today's retirees and future generations get the dignified retirement that they've earned."

Uh, SS was never designed as a "retirement program", Mr. Constitutional Scholar. But of course you already knew that. More boob-bait for the bubbas.

Posted by: DocJ at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (5Nr9V)

312 Damn... My SCOAF sock failed. Almost like the real thing!

Posted by: Damiano at June 02, 2016 10:01 PM (71OEY)

313 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (1ZOkK)

Thank God for that.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 10:01 PM (7qAYi)

314 State Department: ISIS is 'greatest terror threat in the world'

Annual report finds ISIS remains the greatest worldwide terrorist threat, while Iran is still the leading state sponsor of terrorism.

???

And Fredo just gave them the Bomb?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 10:01 PM (Ozsfq)

315 >>45-year-old me is kinda squicked and really, really not down with this sort of thing.


Why don't you mind your own fuckin' business, buddy.

Have you seen how hot this crazy bitch is!?

Posted by: 13 Year Old Cavil at June 02, 2016 10:01 PM (VGG67)

316 Well, Hillary seems wooden because she is. She really doesn't want to be president; she MUST become president or her entire life as Bill's fool will amount to a total humiliation.

Posted by: PJ at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (cHuNI)

317 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (1ZOkK)

Glad for both you and D'oh Boy!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (wYnyS)

318 Eh. 13-year-old me might have agreed but 45-year-old me is kinda squicked and really, really not down with this sort of thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, ashamed the Horde didn't beat him there at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (D0J8L)

Well me too, I just hear too much "he was incapable of choosing because he was 13" or some such crap. The blame doesn't completely lie with the chick.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (lbcdD)

319 285 Some years ago the Blue Angels were featured at an air show in my locale, which we made sure to experience. I had to work during the week prior, but my boys, old enough to stay home alone, spent a glorious week watching them practice their maneuvers almost directly over our house.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 09:55 PM (jf492)


Yes, as I said earlier, I was very lucky to see them flying right over my house on a number of occasions.

One time I also saw a B-17 and two B-25s fly directly over my house. I couldn't get over how tiny they looked. I just checked Wikipedia, and an F-18 is 56 feet long, while a B-25 was 52 feet.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (sdi6R)

320 And let's not forget the parents, they should be prosecuted as well.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:04 PM (lbcdD)

321 Well me too, I just hear too much "he was incapable of choosing because he was 13" or some such crap. The blame doesn't completely lie with the chick.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (lbcdD)


Not rape. Abuse of trust.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 10:05 PM (GSdpU)

322
@CheriJacobus
S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)
=========
Cheri Jacobus is a "GOP consultant" for Hillary Clinton.

Nikki Haley is full of shit. She's dead to me. What an asshole!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (iQIUe)

323 221---I don't think any 13 year old boy who has ever lived would have hesitated to trade places with that kid.

When I was 16 I had a huge crush on Brigitte Bardot, who was 40 at the time.
Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 09:30 PM (sdi6R)
-----------------------
I will dare to disagree.

Thirteen year old boys might fantasize about a sexy older woman but some o the shier ones would be scared of her in real life. And I do think many would be confused and troubled by the teacher's behavior.

So I don't think "all" would want to trade places with that kid, except maybe in fantasies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (T/5A0)

324 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:00 PM (1ZOkK)

Glad to here he's out of there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (rmw+9)

325 I plan on going to the NAS Oceana show this year. Had to work last year & missed it.
Posted by: Josephistan
------------------
Cool. As the date gets closer, mention it (I'll need a reminder for sure).
That would make a great little MoMe. I'm betting 9/11 will be one helluva show and experience.
I've seen them a good dozen times, but that's been decades.

Do you live near Oceana? Driving distance, at least?

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (IDvUO)

326
318 Eh. 13-year-old me might have agreed but 45-year-old me is kinda squicked and really, really not down with this sort of thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, ashamed the Horde didn't beat him there at June 02, 2016 09:59 PM (D0J8L)

Well me too, I just hear too much "he was incapable of choosing because he was 13" or some such crap. The blame doesn't completely lie with the chick.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:03 PM (lbcdD)

Yes it does.

She is the adult and she has a duty not to do such things with minors.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:07 PM (MQEz6)

327 Where is this report of Haley comparing Trump to Dylann Roof ? Don't see it on Drudge or Google.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:07 PM (MNgU2)

328 I do think many would be confused and troubled by the teacher's behavior.

I would have been, I'd have been really upset and frightened. But maybe I'm a strange guy. Its easy to project what you think now with what you might have at 13 but that's really young. I was too embarrassed to kiss a girl back then.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:08 PM (39g3+)

329
Two can play this game: Nikki Haley's refusal to remove the confederate flag led to the murder of 13 people. Sure, she removed it afterwards to deflect from her own pathetic performance in office.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:08 PM (iQIUe)

330
Well, Hillary seems wooden because she is. She really doesn't want to be president; she MUST become president or her entire life as Bill's fool will amount to a total humiliation.
Posted by: PJ


She wants us to be her fool.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 02, 2016 10:08 PM (IqV8l)

331 Well me too, I just hear too much "he was incapable of choosing because he was 13" or some such crap. The blame doesn't completely lie with the chick.

The problem with this attitude is that when you flip things around then you have the "filthy whore wanted it" defense. That 13 year old girl was partly to blame for when the adult raped her!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (39g3+)

332 So I don't think "all" would want to trade places with that kid, except maybe in fantasies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille
****

After her it would all be downhill. What a depressing thought.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (hVdx9)

333
322
@CheriJacobus
S.C. Governor Nikki Haley Holds Nothing Back as She Compares Trump to Shooter Dylann Roof
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2016 09:45 PM (p2X2f)
=========
Cheri Jacobus is a "GOP consultant" for Hillary Clinton.

Nikki Haley is full of shit. She's dead to me. What an asshole!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (iQIUe)

So many masks on the floor.

Waste of a nice rack, too.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (MQEz6)

334 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (T/5A0)

Sorry I have to disagree.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (MNgU2)

335 "couldn't get over how tiny they looked. I just checked Wikipedia, and an F-18 is 56 feet long, while a B-25 was 52 feet."


Modern fighter-type aircraft are big and heavy. A B-25 could haul, say, 6-8k on a mission. An F-18 can do that and also carry AAMS, ECM pods, loiter, act as fighter escort, etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (jzvl8)

336 an F-18 is 56 feet long, while a B-25 was 52 feet.

Posted by: rickl

Right? that is so crazy. But talk about bullet-proof airframes. How many stories of WWII bombers torn to shit still being able to land?

Somewhere along the line it seems pure engineering was drowned out by sexy computer shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:10 PM (jf492)

337 She is the adult and she has a duty not to do such things with minors.



Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:07 PM (MQEz6)

True, but that still doesn't mean she's the only guilty party.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:10 PM (lbcdD)

338 Is it just me? I can't make heads or tails out of this thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:11 PM (1ZOkK)

339 13 y/o boy knocked her up. How many 13 y/o boys want to be a father???

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:11 PM (iQIUe)

340 couldn't get over how tiny they looked. I just checked Wikipedia, and an F-18 is 56 feet long, while a B-25 was 52 feet.

Yeah I feel for the people that flew those bombers long distance, they're so little. I mean, granted they didn't put guys my size in there but still

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:11 PM (39g3+)

341
337 She is the adult and she has a duty not to do such things with minors.



Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:07 PM (MQEz6)

True, but that still doesn't mean she's the only guilty party.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:10 PM (lbcdD)

Yes, she gets only 99.9%.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:11 PM (MQEz6)

342 That said, the F-18 is my favorite military plane, even over the A-10 Warthog...barely.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:12 PM (jf492)

343 in May 2014 I graduated from the University of Missouri, Columbia, with a bachelors degree in journalism.

Mizzou, your first clue.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 02, 2016 10:12 PM (brIR5)

344
That said, the F-18 is my favorite military plane, even over the A-10 Warthog...barely.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:12 PM (jf492)









BURN THE WITCH.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 10:12 PM (LuZz8)

345 Thirteen year old boys might fantasize about a sexy older woman but some o the shier ones would be scared of her in real life. And I do think many would be confused and troubled by the teacher's behavior.

So I don't think "all" would want to trade places with that kid, except maybe in fantasies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (T/5A0)

Re: all, technically you are correct. Realistically, that number or percentage is somewhere fairly close to zero.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (lbcdD)

346 I repeat. Can't make heads or tails out of this thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (1ZOkK)

347 Do you live near Oceana? Driving distance, at least?
Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 10:06 PM (IDvUO)

In Philly, so it's a day trip.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (7qAYi)

348
Is it just me? I can't make heads or tails out of this thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:11 PM (1ZOkK)
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Jane, that's because you're posting in your sleep.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (5o5ek)

349 Apparently Mr. Trump is demanding a white judge for his Trump University fraud case.

Posted by: Harun at June 02, 2016 10:14 PM (dZQh7)

350 328
But maybe I'm a strange guy. Its easy to project what you think now with what you might have at 13 but that's really young. I was too embarrassed to kiss a girl back then.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:08 PM (39g3+)


I'm not projecting what I was thinking at 13. I remember it very well.

I was shy too. But if she came on to me, then whoa Nellie! That's exactly what I was hoping for.

I do agree that adults should not be getting it on with teenagers.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:14 PM (sdi6R)

351 Right? that is so crazy. But talk about bullet-proof airframes. How many stories of WWII bombers torn to shit still being able to land?

Somewhere along the line it seems pure engineering was drowned out by sexy computer shit.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:10 PM (jf492)

Hi, have we met?

Posted by: A-10 "Warthog" at June 02, 2016 10:14 PM (7qAYi)

352

BURN THE WITCH.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

I did say barely. Love the Warthog. the grunt's best friend.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (jf492)

353 Jane, that's because you're posting in your sleep.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (5o5ek)

---------

*flips bird* Wide Fucking Awake

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (1ZOkK)

354 Why don't you mind your own fuckin' business, buddy.

Have you seen how hot this crazy bitch is!?

Posted by: 13 Year Old Cavil


In about five years you're going to meet this thing called the Internet...

Posted by: 23 Year Old Cavil at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (D0J8L)

355
The problem with this attitude is that when you flip things around then you have the "filthy whore wanted it" defense. That 13 year old girl was partly to blame for when the adult raped her!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:09 PM (39g3+)
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This could get me some flames, but I don't think you can just flip genders on this type of situation and have it come out the same.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (5o5ek)

356 He told me today, he's had the first quiet night's sleep in over two years.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:00

Good to hear Jane. Glad after his service he is safe and sound and you are relieved.


Posted by: Farmer at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (o/90i)

357 Jeez. sorry. love the Warthog.

Really I do. I loved seeing them lumber over during our ARTEP exercises in Germany back in the day.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (jf492)

358 Four topics going on

1. Planes / Blue Angels

2. Teacher / student

3. Nikki Haley

4. Tragic losses today

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (MNgU2)

359
*flips bird* Wide Fucking Awake

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (1ZOkK)
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Hahahahah! Is your hubby watching you with your laptop in bed, typing merrily and then flipping bird?

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (5o5ek)

360 349 Posted by: Harun at June 02, 2016 10:14 PM (dZQh7)

Can he settle for one not from "La Raza?"

Fucking insane...

"The Race" if it were KKK guys the nation would be going apeshit.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:17 PM (g8Hfr)

361
Four topics going on

1. Planes / Blue Angels

2. Teacher / student

3. Nikki Haley

4. Tragic losses today
---------------

Attempted fifth: What does this story mean?

http://tinyurl.com/gut58hq

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:17 PM (5o5ek)

362 355 Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:15 PM (5o5ek)

Right...wimminz are superior to men in EVERY way *and* need Victorian societal protection....

b/c logical consistency who the fuck needs it in the 21st century?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:18 PM (g8Hfr)

363 Hahahahah! Is your hubby watching you with your laptop in bed, typing merrily and then flipping bird?

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (5o5ek)



He's fart raping me now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:18 PM (1ZOkK)

364 The problem with this attitude is that when you flip things around then you have the "filthy whore wanted it" defense. That 13 year old girl was partly to blame for when the adult raped her!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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Exactly, CT.
Mid-twenties man impregnates a 13 year old girl? Rape!
Mid-twenties hot woman rapes a 13 year old boy? Wow! Lucky kid!

That's kinda sickening to me. And yes, 13 year old girls can be very flirtatious, and sometimes even aggressive. Does that make it OK?
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

BTW, I thought it was established fact that girls mature sooner than boys. Boys at 13 couldn't make the decision to change their underoos without Mom reminding them to. They are much less prepared (capable?) of making the decision to have sex.

Posted by: Chi at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (IDvUO)

365 Even though she didn't say it yet, I'm sure Hillary I, like King Barack I, is greatly disappointed in us as a nation. And personally in each and every legal, non-Muslim, non-trans/les/etc. individual.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (AHDxb)

366 358 Four topics going on

1. Planes / Blue Angels

2. Teacher / student

3. Nikki Haley

4. Tragic losses today
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:16 PM (MNgU2)


5. Falcon 9, dammit!

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

367 This could get me some flames, but I don't think you can just flip genders on this type of situation and have it come out the same.

I think preying on children sexually is monstrous no matter what the gender combination is.

Imagine a boy with a 20 something man if you have to, to get this straight.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (39g3+)

368 Hot for teacher.

Posted by: Too soon? at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (Tyii7)

369 b/c logical consistency who the fuck needs it in the 21st century?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:18 PM (g8Hfr)

We lost logical consistency in the late 19th century. And as noted earlier today, shortly thereafter we lost the republic.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 10:20 PM (RDM5+)

370 I'm off to bed. Thanks to all who prayed for our son to find a safe place to live.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 02, 2016 10:20 PM (1ZOkK)

371 >>Imagine a boy with a 20 something man if you have to, to get this straight.


Well, that's just wrong.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (VGG67)

372 That is a worship word.

To be said only by chiefs, and sons of chiefs.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (brIR5)

373 Jane, I lived in West Philly and Newark in total about 6 years.

When I moved to a safer place, it was *too* quiet for me to sleep.

The gunshots, sirens, and street action were masking a lot of other noises.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (EZebt)

374 I remember when we used to have coloured typefaces available too.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (PLnZs)

375 So everything's fucked up and we're circling the drain. Situation normal.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (0mRoj)

376 New news on Hillary, from Judge Napolitano, via zerohedge:


Here
is what is new publicly: When her private server was down and her
BlackBerry immobilized for days at a time, she refused to use a
government-issued BlackBerry because of her fear of the Freedom of
Information Act. She preferred to go dark, or back to the 19th-century
technology of having documents read aloud to her.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 02, 2016 10:21 PM (AHDxb)

377
Right...wimminz are superior to men in EVERY way *and* need Victorian societal protection....

b/c logical consistency who the fuck needs it in the 21st century?
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:18 PM (g8Hfr)
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Yeah, like I said, it could get me some flames.

I don't know how girl=boy is "logical consistency." If that's what you call logical consistency, then you've got no problem with transgender bathrooms.

Or maybe your whole post was a joke, can't tell...

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (5o5ek)

378 Attempted fifth: What does this story mean?



http://tinyurl.com/gut58hq





Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:17 PM (5o5ek)

=======================
Oooo!!1111

How can they really be classified if the republicans release them....
Unless the republicans are guilty of releasing classified docs too!
=============================

Supposed to be a catch-22.
But, they may have been classed when Hillery leaked them, but no longer are because they are already in the public domain. Not that the masses would understand such 'nuance'.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (P/kVC)

379 367 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (39g3+)

Quite right.

This "woman" violated a public trust and engaged in carnal knowledge of a child in her care.

We of course should cherish young educators of such "judgement" and entrust them with our young minds.

What frippery, flip the genders and this would be an FBI case at this point.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (g8Hfr)

380 291---Anchor Baby.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 09:57 PM
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WTF?
An "anchor baby" is a child of illegal immigrants used as an anchor to staying in the US. Were her parents illegals exploiting birthright citizenship that way?

Do you make any distinction between legal and illegal immigrants?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (T/5A0)

381 He's fart raping me now.

Its not rape rape unless he holds your head under the covers.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at June 02, 2016 10:23 PM (39g3+)

382 Assault with a Dutch Oven.

Posted by: Too soon? at June 02, 2016 10:24 PM (Tyii7)

383 377 Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (5o5ek)

Does the law differentiate by gender between sub age of consent males and females?

THAT is the matter at play.

That every adult male thinks they should be envious of a 13 year old blowing a load and impregnating a teacher is indicative of other societal rots.

The law is pretty clear here.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:24 PM (g8Hfr)

384 as for the predatory skank teacher? yeah, there's a small, horny teenager voice in my head wondering where all these hot teachers were when I was in high school, but it is so fucking wrong. this woman is more skeevy than the male art teacher at my school who leered at the girls passing in the hall. he never actually did anything, other than gather fapping material for when his wife turned him down yet again. She preyed on a fucking kid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:25 PM (jf492)

385
I think preying on children sexually is monstrous no matter what the gender combination is.

Imagine a boy with a 20 something man if you have to, to get this straight.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:19 PM (39g3+)
----------------

I think I misread your original post.

My point (unnecessary) was that the vast majority of young teenage girls who had sex with a much older male rate the experience as creepy, unsatisfactory, coerced, etc., while the converse is true when you flip the genders.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:25 PM (5o5ek)

386 WTF?

An "anchor baby" is a child of illegal immigrants used as an anchor
to staying in the US. Were her parents illegals exploiting birthright
citizenship that way?



Do you make any distinction between legal and illegal immigrants?



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (T/5A0)


Do the supporters of illegal immigration make any distinction?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:26 PM (P/kVC)

387 369 Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 10:20 PM (RDM5+)

Well assuming wife makes it to 23 or 24 years I am either becoming a trucker or a neo hermit.

Fuck this society and its dishonorable idiocy.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:26 PM (g8Hfr)

388 Don't stand so close to me.

Posted by: Sting at June 02, 2016 10:26 PM (EZebt)

389 383 377 Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:22 PM (5o5ek)

Does the law differentiate by gender between sub age of consent males and females?

THAT is the matter at play.

That every adult male thinks they should be envious of a 13 year old blowing a load and impregnating a teacher is indicative of other societal rots.

The law is pretty clear here.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:24 PM (g8Hfr)

I'm with you 100% on this. I've gone round and round with people, including some here, on this very issue. I find their "yeah but it's different when women do it to boys and if you disagree you're as bad as a tranny-loving progressive" bullshit to be distressing at best.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

390 384 Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:25 PM (jf492)

We had an English Lit Honors teacher groom and wed after debauching a young coed...

he was ~57 years old she was 17.

He *should* have been jailed.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:27 PM (g8Hfr)

391 Any riots outside the Trump hate-fest yet?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:27 PM (P/kVC)

392 And yes, 13 year old girls can be very flirtatious, and sometimes even aggressive. Does that make it OK?

Right, and they're doing so because they don't understand their sexuality, their beauty, and the power they wield. Making a 20 something guy flustered and nervous by vamping on him makes her feel really good and really powerful and really excited. But she doesn't know what it means - or if she does something awful has happened to her in the past.

That's the whole point. They're young. They're still kids, teenager or not. They aren't grown up yet or ready for anything of the sort. They're just beginning to learn and test the boundaries and find out how it works. Only a monster takes advantage of that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:28 PM (39g3+)

393 391
Any riots outside the Trump hate-fest yet?


Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:27 PM (P/kVC)
hope not....my brother is working

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 10:28 PM (0O7c5)

394 Pull my finger. You know you want it!

Posted by: Too soon? at June 02, 2016 10:28 PM (Tyii7)

395 Either the Horde is drinking some serious shit tonight, or my foul mood from this morning permeated the night shift...

Posted by: 23 Year Old Cavil at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (D0J8L)

396 345---Re: all, technically you are correct. Realistically, that number or percentage is somewhere fairly close to zero.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (lbcdD)
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Then it shouldn't be illegal. (You can still bar teachers from having sex with their students.)

Lower the age of consent for boys to puberty. They all want it anyway and won't feel any anxiety about it. No problems.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (T/5A0)

397 That's the whole point. They're young. They're still kids, teenager or not. They aren't grown up yet or ready for anything of the sort. They're just beginning to learn and test the boundaries and find out how it works. Only a monster takes advantage of that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:28 PM (39g3+)


Women can't possibly be sexual predators, don'tcha know. They're morally superior beings without moral agency because patriarchy.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (0mRoj)

398 Actually that's 45 year old me >.<

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (D0J8L)

399 389 Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

We wonder why assholes like Ogabe thrive when we have debauched and undermined every value we have aspired to...

sorry count me out...win or lose I am preparing to pull the fade this decade.

As Antonia says in I, Claudius when informing Claudius she is suiciding...

"I don't want to be here anymore, this was a beautiful place the best place and your generation has ruined it."

I am not threatening literal suicide, I am planning on social suicide.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (g8Hfr)

400
Do you make any distinction between legal and illegal immigrants?
----------------

In Burnt Toast's defense, I get the joke. It's just a way of saying Nikki checked the not-WASP box.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

401 Well, they found that little Japanese kid alive who was sent on a forced march by his parents. He was relatively unscathed.

I thought a simple time out would have sufficed.

Although I'm hoping he kept himself going out of sheer spite.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (RHnu3)

402 396 345---Re: all, technically you are correct. Realistically, that number or percentage is somewhere fairly close to zero.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:13 PM (lbcdD)
----------------------------
Then it shouldn't be illegal. (You can still bar teachers from having sex with their students.)

Lower the age of consent for boys to puberty. They all want it anyway and won't feel any anxiety about it. No problems.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (T/5A0)

Oh hell yes.

Posted by: Harry Reid at June 02, 2016 10:31 PM (0mRoj)

403 Although I'm hoping he kept himself going out of sheer spite.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (RHnu3)
i had the same thought......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 10:32 PM (0O7c5)

404 386-----Do the supporters of illegal immigration make any distinction?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:26 PM
-----------------
No --- and neither, evidently, do you.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (T/5A0)

405 I am not threatening literal suicide, I am planning on social suicide.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (g8Hfr)

Well thank goodness for that clarification.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)

406 I am not threatening literal suicide, I am planning on social suicide.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (g8Hfr)
=====

You could just become a social assassin...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (EZebt)

407 So what about the 13 year old boy who is getting laid by his 16 year old girlfriend .

Do you see a difference there if the genders were reversed?

In no way am I trying to defend or justify the teachers actions. I'm just more curious about the thought process of people who say there is no difference when genders are reversed. My position is there is a difference. Bad and Worse.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (MNgU2)

408
I'm hoping he kept himself going out of sheer spite.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (RHnu3)
---------------------

Hehehehr.

(I don't foresee a particularly cozy relationship in that family going forward.)

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (5o5ek)

409 re: nailing teenagers...women aren't mature enough to have sex responsibly until they're 50.


Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:34 PM (RHnu3)

410 385
My point (unnecessary) was that the vast majority of young teenage girls who had sex with a much older male rate the experience as creepy, unsatisfactory, coerced, etc., while the converse is true when you flip the genders.
Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:25 PM (5o5ek)


They are not the same situation, and the laws need to be written differently.

Adult male > pubescent female: Obviously rape, statutory or otherwise. Throw the book at him.

Adult female > pubescent male: I don't know what to call it, but it isn't rape. I don't know what the proper penalty should be, but it shouldn't be as severe as the above case. Clearly she has no business teaching and should lose her license at a minimum.

One-size-fits-all laws do nobody any good.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:35 PM (sdi6R)

411 That every adult male thinks they should be envious of a 13 year old blowing a load and impregnating a teacher is indicative of other societal rots.

The law is pretty clear here.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:24 PM (g8Hfr)

Agreed about the law, but a bunch of guys wishing they were in his shoes with her isn't necessarily indicative of societal rot. We have plenty of other evidence of that.

It's guys being guys, just like they've always been.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:36 PM (lbcdD)

412 Okay, maybe Trump's people will get this.

Refuse, absolutely refuse, to answer any question about illegal immigration that does not precede "immigration" with the modifier "illegal". If asked about "immigration" or "immigrants", wax eloquent about how immigrants have built America, etc. DO NOT discuss illegal immigration outside of a context that clearly specifies it as a crime. Play dumb with them, until they come clean about what they are really asking, and DO NOT let them conflate being against illegal immigration with zenophobia, racism, etc.

DAMMIT MAKE THEM MIS-QUOTE YOU TO GET THE "QUOTE" THEY WANT, AND THEN GUT THEM!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 02, 2016 10:36 PM (LeUrG)

413 In Burnt Toast's defense, I get the joke. It's just a way of saying Nikki checked the not-WASP box.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

Close enough - Nikki's bio that I have seen did not specify if her parents were in the US on a NIV or IV.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:36 PM (P/kVC)

414 405 Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)

I would not want to distress anyone, it is an aspect of the Roman and Spartan character I respect though.

Simply put we are an unserious nation coasting on momentum, and I frankly loathe the little assholes who have been programmed to make it so to the point it will be best for all concerned's emotional equilibrium that I pull the fade and focus on things within my control and secure my progeny's character.

I can't save the world, and I suspect I can't save myself but I can try to save my dignity.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:37 PM (g8Hfr)

415
409 women aren't mature enough to have sex responsibly until they're 50.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:34 PM
=======

Mrs Franpsycho turns 50 this month. Can't wait to let her know.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:37 PM (EZebt)

416 We wonder why assholes like Ogabe thrive when we have debauched and undermined every value we have aspired to...

sorry count me out...win or lose I am preparing to pull the fade this decade.

As Antonia says in I, Claudius when informing Claudius she is suiciding...

"I don't want to be here anymore, this was a beautiful place the best place and your generation has ruined it."

I am not threatening literal suicide, I am planning on social suicide.

Posted by: sven10077
****

Well, I'll probably be dead before Hillary's first term is up.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:37 PM (hVdx9)

417 400---In Burnt Toast's defense, I get the joke. It's just a way of saying Nikki checked the not-WASP box.
Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)
------------------
Ah, a joke.
Calling all minorities "anchor babies" is funny.
Okay.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (T/5A0)

418 Either the Horde is drinking some serious shit tonight, or my foul mood from this morning permeated the night shift...

Posted by: 23 Year Old Cavil at June 02, 2016 10:29 PM (D0J8L)

I'm in the middle of my Suprep treatment for my colonoscopy tomorrow.

So draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (lbcdD)

419 417 400---In Burnt Toast's defense, I get the joke. It's just a way of saying Nikki checked the not-WASP box.
Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)
------------------
Ah, a joke.
Calling all minorities "anchor babies" is funny.
Okay.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (T/5A0)

They make lousy anchors. They just float.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:39 PM (0mRoj)

420 411 Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:36 PM (lbcdD)

I lost my virginity at 12 to a rather cute Cambodian aged 19.

Anyone who wants to trade the experience is welcome to it.

She was thanking me for English lessons, and helping her study civics.

It hurt, I was not a stallion and if I recall correctly my pipes were not opened completely and I bled a bit.

I gave in because of peer pressure in the welfare project I grew up in.

Hindsight being 20/20 I would have enjoyed a hike 13 miles to the state park more.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:39 PM (g8Hfr)

421 Adult male > pubescent female: Obviously rape, statutory or otherwise. Throw the book at him.

Adult female > pubescent male: I don't know what to call it, but it isn't rape. I don't know what the proper penalty should be, but it shouldn't be as severe as the above case. Clearly she has no business teaching and should lose her license at a minimum.

One-size-fits-all laws do nobody any good.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:35 PM (sdi6R)


The difference is in the consequences for the young person once the news gets out. The 13 year-old girl who has sex with the 23 year-old male teacher is going to be regarded as either a rape victim, or a slut. Either way, a stigma is attached. And if she gets pregnant, there's that to deal with, too.


The 13 year-old boy who has sex with a 23 year-old female teacher might get mocked a bit as a 'teacher's pet", but most of his classmates will be saying "dude..."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 10:40 PM (GSdpU)

422 Ok, yes the boy banger is physically attractive, but she's a flaming nut job. No thanks. Prosecute her.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:40 PM (hVdx9)

423 So draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (lbcdD)

So. An explosive situation then. Clear!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:41 PM (pcyHg)

424 417
400---In Burnt Toast's defense, I get the joke. It's just a way of saying Nikki checked the not-WASP box.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

------------------

Ah, a joke.

Calling all minorities "anchor babies" is funny.

Okay.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (T/5A0)
i have a fb friend....he is not the brightest bulb....he's all in for trump.....he posted on his page that all the new mexican citizens that were causing problems at the trump rally should go back to their country.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 10:41 PM (0O7c5)

425 If she is like Rahm Emanuel, all the press conferences would be scripted via email beforehand

Posted by: pointsnfigures at June 02, 2016 10:41 PM (oPFsu)

426 Screw a kid? Go to prison, U r a child molester-- with or without a penis. Makee no difference.

Posted by: MNW at June 02, 2016 10:41 PM (clL70)

427 406 Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:33 PM (EZebt)

I already am to a degree aren't I?

The arguments I wage, the lessons grounded in history I have tried to impart they are meaningless the minute a person offers free shit.

I hate this epoch, I get no joy anymore even from the stalk and the fight.

I am tired, and my mouth is ashen.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (g8Hfr)

428 419----They make lousy anchors. They just float.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:39 PM (0mRoj)
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You fool! That's witches that float!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (T/5A0)

429 "Stop Bugging Hillary Clinton





At first glance I thought it said "Stop Buggering Hillary Clinton" but no one would be insane enough to do that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (45oDG)

430 423 So draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (lbcdD)

So. An explosive situation then. Clear!
Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:41 PM (pcyHg)

Like an upside-down oil geyser.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (0mRoj)

431
Close enough - Nikki's bio that I have seen did not specify if her parents were in the US on a NIV or IV.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 10:36 PM (P/kVC)
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She's absolution against the anti-foreigner charge.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (5o5ek)

432 For those saying no big deal that the kiddy diddler was a woman, would it be ok if it had been a man and a boy?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)

433
I'm in the middle of my Suprep treatment for my colonoscopy tomorrow.

So draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Blano

did the same thing just over a week ago. Trust me, the prep is way worse than the actual procedure. I chalked it up to taking a very relaxing, expensive nap. I'm actually not sure anything actually happened. But I got a clean bill of health. so there's that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (jf492)

434 Blano,

Get a lot of rain up there today? We had 2 5/8 inches in 5 hours down here near Gatesville/Hamilton.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (pcyHg)

435 Like an upside-down oil geyser.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (0mRoj)

Ain't that the tr

brb

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:43 PM (lbcdD)

436 Making a 20 something guy flustered and nervous by vamping on him makes her feel really good and really powerful and really excited.

Don't stand so close to me....

Posted by: Fox2! at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (brIR5)

437 I never worked on Hillary Clinton's servers, Senator.

Posted by: Frank Pentangeli at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (RHnu3)

438 On another, more critical topic: how many actual, new cases of priests molesting kids have there been in the news or anywhere you've heard? Maybe one? Usually its old cases being talked about again.

But teachers molesting kids? Weekly, about.

Yet who gets their groin stomped about kids, even here? Ha ha priests ha ha kiddy diddlers ha ha hah..

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (39g3+)

439 How about 17 year old banging his 27 year old teacher?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (MNgU2)

440 For those saying no big deal that the kiddy diddler was a woman, would it be ok if it had been a man and a boy?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)



That's next on Barry's agenda. First gays, then trannies then NAMBLA

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (45oDG)

441
brb

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:43 PM (lbcdD)

Reminds me of the old "Movie Prep" column by Dave Barry.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:45 PM (pcyHg)

442 416 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:37 PM (hVdx9)

Tilikum, I hope not.

Every loss of a member of the horde hurts.

I am not as nihilistic as I likely sound, and I do not wish to succor a dolorous pallor in any of you my friends.

I simply do not like this nation anymore, and my love of this nation is what allowed me to escape the welfare trap, stay relatively sane, and mostly sober.

The Democrats have robbed me of my anchor.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:46 PM (g8Hfr)

443 That's next on Barry's agenda. First gays, then trannies then NAMBLA

North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:46 PM (RHnu3)

444 439 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:44 PM (MNgU2)

Legal if unethical.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:47 PM (g8Hfr)

445 did the same thing just over a week ago. Trust me, the prep is way worse than the actual procedure. I chalked it up to taking a very relaxing, expensive nap. I'm actually not sure anything actually happened. But I got a clean bill of health. so there's that.


Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (jf492)

Well that's good to hear.

I also ate a whole pizza last night before midnight, so I'm not starving too much tonight, and off to bed soon.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:47 PM (lbcdD)

446 443 That's next on Barry's agenda. First gays, then trannies then NAMBLA

North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:46 PM (RHnu3)

400 pounds and bald.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 10:47 PM (0mRoj)

447 Sven, maybe that 13 mile hike you mentioned would give some relief.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:47 PM (EZebt)

448 "BURN THE WITCH.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur "




How dare you, sir. My beloved Bug/Super Bug.

*Turns and walks away*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:48 PM (jzvl8)

449 Get a lot of rain up there today? We had 2 5/8 inches in 5 hours down here near Gatesville/Hamilton.


Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (pcyHg)

Off and on, but when it rained it poured. Don't know how much though. Ricardo Kill might know better.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:48 PM (lbcdD)

450 427----I am tired, and my mouth is ashen.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (g8Hfr)
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The Benedict option.
Families, small groups preserving what is best of Western civilization. Handing it on, carrying on quietly against the tide.
And one day ---maybe --- these "faithful and creative minorities" will make a difference.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:48 PM (T/5A0)

451
The teacher is definitely looking at prison time. It is a given. They have been sentencing women to prison for this for a while. No probation but prison.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (iQIUe)

452 Blano,

Relax. I've had three colonoscopies...the prep sucks to be sure, but the actual procedure is just a very enjoyable nap.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (pcyHg)

453 i have a fb friend....he is not the brightest bulb....he's all in for trump.....he posted on his page that all the new mexican citizens that were causing problems at the trump rally should go back to their country.....

He might be a bit confused but he's probably thinking of this quote in the Anderson Cooper interview with Gary Johnson

You know, coming from New Mexico, a border state, what he's saying is just incendiary. New Mexico is one of the four minority majority states. Fifty percent of the population of New Mexico is Hispanic, so what does that mean when we're going to deport 11 million illegal immigrants? Well, arguably, half the state of New Mexico is going to be subject to door-knocking and house searches and paper-checking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (39g3+)

454 RK - how's it hangin'?

How much rain did y'all get up there today?

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:50 PM (pcyHg)

455 447 Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 10:47 PM (EZebt)

I'm not the man I was at 12 ba du dum...

I can make about six before the hip starts discussing my future with me.

I will be hiking with Lad10077 in the mornings starting next week....

it *will* do my mind good....

the geography here is breathtaking even if the idiots here are not or honestly perhaps they are.

This town blew its brains out with unions between 1930 and 1960 and they are in DEEP estrus for "The Barn!"

Some folks simply insist on slamming their duck in the door.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:50 PM (g8Hfr)

456 Relax. I've had three colonoscopies...the prep sucks to be sure, but the actual procedure is just a very enjoyable nap.


Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (pcyHg)

Excellent.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:50 PM (lbcdD)

457 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)

I don't think anybody said it was okay.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:51 PM (MNgU2)

458 Tilikum, I hope not.

Every loss of a member of the horde hurts.

I am not as nihilistic as I likely sound, and I do not wish to succor a dolorous pallor in any of you my friends.

I simply do not like this nation anymore, and my love of this nation is what allowed me to escape the welfare trap, stay relatively sane, and mostly sober.

The Democrats have robbed me of my anchor.

Posted by: sven10077
****

Thanks Sven, but If Hillary wins it is likely a done deal. Especially if what I think will happen does.
We share a mood because I see the same things you do.
My mother came here to get away from Castro. Not only have the same type risen to power here, her other son is rather Alan Grayson like.


Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (hVdx9)

459 "How much rain did y'all get up there today?"

Today, not so much. Maybe 2".


Tuesday we have around 4-6".

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (jzvl8)

460 432 For those saying no big deal that the kiddy diddler was a woman, would it be ok if it had been a man and a boy?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:42 PM (hVdx9)


Now that's the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.

Because that has been going on from time immemorial, from ancient Greece to modern (if you can call it that) Afghanistan.

That is pretty obviously rape. What 13 year old boy fantasizes about getting fucked in the ass? Pretty much no one, unless his father was doing it to him at age 6.

But no, we can't talk about that, because homophobia.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (sdi6R)

461 The teacher is definitely looking at prison time. It is a given. They have been sentencing women to prison for this for a while. No probation but prison.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (iQIUe)

Heard on the radio yesterday some chick got 10 years. Maybe they are clamping down on the fairer sex now.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (lbcdD)

462 The difference is in the consequences for the young person once the news gets out. The 13 year-old girl who has sex with the 23 year-old male teacher is going to be regarded as either a rape victim, or a slut. Either way, a stigma is attached. And if she gets pregnant, there's that to deal with, too.


The 13 year-old boy who has sex with a 23 year-old female teacher might get mocked a bit as a 'teacher's pet", but most of his classmates will be saying "dude..."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 10:40 PM (GSdpU)

You are talking about our generation... or the last ones...

Not the kids today...

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 02, 2016 10:55 PM (qf6WZ)

463 Tuesday we have around 4-6".

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (jzvl

Yowza!
No rain for us on Tuesday; 2 5/8 inches in a 5-hour period today. I know y'all get a lot more rain up there in the DFW area than we do down here, but I'll take every drop we can get. Cuz when July and August arrive, it'll be drier than a popcorn fart down here.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:55 PM (pcyHg)

464 Well, arguably, half the state of New Mexico is going to be subject to door-knocking and house searches and paper-checking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (39g3+)


Only in the fever dreams, (or is that pot hallucinations?) of the Libertarians. Going house-to-house would be tremendously expensive, and completely unnecessary. Just deport those illegals who come to the attention of the authorities for other reasons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 10:55 PM (GSdpU)

465 Heard on the radio yesterday some chick got 10 years. Maybe they are clamping down on the fairer sex now.

Posted by: Blano

Good! Sexual predation is sexual predation. Women can be just as creepy as men.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 10:55 PM (jf492)

466
Some folks simply insist on slamming their duck in the door.
Posted by: sven10077


I want a new duck.

Posted by: Weird Al at June 02, 2016 10:55 PM (IqV8l)

467 458 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (hVdx9)

All the refugees from Communism....

Marx's orphans and rather than listen to what they endured we are embracing the methods and dreams of their tormentors.

I am 43 years old, my life and values are a failure.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:56 PM (g8Hfr)

468 So if you're living in Santa Fe or Albuquerque, you may want to get your roofing and/or lawn service done before January 2017.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 10:56 PM (RHnu3)

469 453--- half the state of New Mexico is going to be subject to door-knocking and house searches and paper-checking.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM
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Oh, for heaven's sake, no one is going to do that.

But I'll tell you what. Speaking as a wiseacre Latina, first-generation immigrant myself, I would vastly prefer that to the present open-borders/sanctuary-city crap.
Bring it on.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (T/5A0)

470 Just deport those illegals who come to the attention of the authorities for other reasons.

Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)

471 The teacher is definitely looking at prison time. It is a given. They have been sentencing women to prison for this for a while. No probation but prison.

At least they get a trial....

Posted by: Harambe the Gorilla at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (RHnu3)

472 Well, arguably, half the state of New Mexico is going to be subject to door-knocking and house searches and paper-checking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:49 PM (39g3+)

Nobody has EVER advocated going door to door searching for illegals that I know of.

That's just claptrap bullshit hysteria perpetuated by the liberal scum.

Bullshit like that just pisses me off. There are plenty of other ways to round up illegals.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (lbcdD)

473 Its not rape rape unless he holds your head under the covers.
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg
------------

Yeah, sorry about that Whoops... it's just that you're not really very attractive.

Posted by: Ted Dancing at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (J3phO)

474 The thing that made colonoscopy prep tolerable for me was the fact that both gin and tonic are clear liquids.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (1xUj/)

475 Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)

This.
Stop all the freebies. No other country is as stupid as we are when it comes to that.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (pcyHg)

476 I want a new duck.

Well it is Duck Season

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (39g3+)

477 "I'll take every drop we can get. Cuz when July and August arrive, it'll be drier than a popcorn fart down here."


That's the vexation. We were so dry for so long. Then, last year, now........deluged. Creeks, rivers, tanks, are bursting. Ground is soaked to the brim. Spongy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (jzvl8)

478 Posted by: Harambe the Gorilla at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (RHnu3)

At least you got some attention.

Posted by: 40 people in Chicago last weekend at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (lbcdD)

479 I'm in the middle of my Suprep treatment for my colonoscopy tomorrow.



So draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:38 PM (lbcdD)

View it as the Berlitz crash course in speaking Democrat.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (oKE6c)

480 All the refugees from Communism....

Marx's orphans and rather than listen to what they endured we are embracing the methods and dreams of their tormentors.

I am 43 years old, my life and values are a failure.

Posted by: sven10077
****

Sadly, you are right.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (hVdx9)

481
Of all the conversations crossing each other on this thread right now, I think my favorite is the colonoscopy.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (5o5ek)

482 I think Hillary is a deeply unhappy and very very angry woman in need of massive emotional, physical and spiritual healing. I think people who have been deeply unhappy and have felt betrayed for so long often turn against others, but its only God who can feel that void in her heart ad soul, and she doesn't think she needs God so she's as rich as Croesus, so at the same time I dislike her I pity her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:47 PM (rmw+9)


Thanks, FenelonSpoke. I agree.

I've had dreams about Hillary for many years. In my dreams I always feel sorry for her and we end up having good and meaningful conversations.

If God can turn around the Apostle Paul and sinners like me, he can turn around Hillary, Obama, and others.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (nvMvs)

483 Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)



This.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (oKE6c)

484 But I'll tell you what. Speaking as a wiseacre Latina, first-generation immigrant myself, I would vastly prefer that to the present open-borders/sanctuary-city crap.
Bring it on.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (T/5A0)

Latina, eh? I'm listening.

Posted by: 40 people in Chicago last weekend at June 02, 2016 11:01 PM (lbcdD)

485 At least you got some attention.
Posted by: 40 people in Chicago last weekend at June 02, 2016 10:59 PM (lbcdD)

They knew the risk...I say, let them crash.

Posted by: Harambe the Gorilla at June 02, 2016 11:01 PM (RHnu3)

486 Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)

****

Those policies are already codified law. Simply enforce them, and we're good to go. So simple. Yet....no.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 02, 2016 11:01 PM (YLidQ)

487 At least they get a trial....

Posted by: Harambe the Gorilla
****

If you'd been a white gorilla you'd still be alive. Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

488 481


Of all the conversations crossing each other on this thread right now, I think my favorite is the colonoscopy.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (5o5ek)

Ha! It's one of the few I have 'real-world' experience with!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 11:01 PM (pcyHg)

489 I cannot help noticing, that every time I happen to be hanging here in the evening, the ONT is way, way overdue.

I would take the blame, but that's just dumb. Being a daywalker I actually have no clue how tardy each ONT is. so, is it like this a lot?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (jf492)

490 See? I knew there was a reason why I never read NY Mag.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (gYfnZ)

491 **SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


You're right. This is fun!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (mvenn)

492 Of all the conversations crossing each other on this thread right now, I think my favorite is the colonoscopy.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (5o5ek)



Did you hear the one about the door-to-door colonoscopy salesman, and the illegal alien with the hawt 13 year-old daughter?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (GSdpU)

493 Oh dammit I do that a lot.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (lbcdD)

494 I am 43 years old, my life and values are a failure.



Posted by: sven10077



Be of good cheer: the times are a-changing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (oKE6c)

495 Of all the conversations crossing each other on this thread right now, I think my favorite is the colonoscopy.

Posted by: iforgot
****

George Michaels, is that you?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (hVdx9)

496 Heard on the radio yesterday some chick got 10 years. Maybe they are clamping down on the fairer sex now.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:52 PM (lbcdD)

============
The uptick in prison sentences has been going on for a while. They take these cases seriously. As I pointed out, is a 13 year old boy or girl mature enough to bring a child in this world? That alone says how this behavior can not be tolerated.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 11:03 PM (iQIUe)

497 Good news, busted illegals:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jowfrdy

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (J3phO)

498 489
I cannot help noticing, that every time I happen to be hanging here in the evening, the ONT is way, way overdue.

The ONT tends to run later when Maet does it...I do enjoy the earlier ONTs, but that's because I also like to sleep.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (pcyHg)

499 483 Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)


This.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (oKE6c)

But that would be malicious .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (MNgU2)

500 Be of good cheer: the times are a-changing.


Posted by: Jay Guevara
****

Oh yeah, the company that is buying ours, is not happy with my dept. I may be unemployed soon. Sorry, on funemployment. Wheeeee.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)

501 Of all the conversations crossing each other on this thread right now, I think my favorite is the colonoscopy.

Posted by: iforgot
****

George Michaels, is that you?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

Twerking is part of the post-treatment...or so my doc told me.

Posted by: Katie Couric at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (jf492)

502 Well I'm off to bed 'cause I have to restart this geyser at 4:30am.

Later all.

Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (lbcdD)

503 Have they started setting free people busted for weed in states that legalized it? I mean... how can you keep someone in jail for something that's now legal?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (39g3+)

504 That's just claptrap bullshit hysteria perpetuated by the liberal scum.

Bullshit like that just pisses me off. There are plenty of other ways to round up illegals.
Posted by: Blano at June 02, 2016 10:58 PM (lbcdD)
=====

They are trying to evoke images of Aktionen and Razzia when the joos were rounded up that way in Europe and link it to Trump's immigration policy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (EZebt)

505
This nation is NOT lost. The bedrock is still solid as ever, THAT is going nowhere.

The precepts we were founded on and adhered to that allowed is to flourish and become the most exceptional country and people on the planet haven't disappeared.

They're there, under the layer of filth laid on them by the progressive left.

All of us,each in his/her own way must work to bring them to the forefront. Doesn't matter how insignificant it may seem, you gotta keep fighting.

Won't be an easy row to hoe, that is evident. But I believe we are destined to prevail, simply because we are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.

Remember that.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (X35Yt)

506 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (39g3+)

There's nobody in prison for possesion of personal use weed.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:06 PM (MNgU2)

507 Twerking is part of the post-treatment...or so my doc told me.


Posted by: Katie Couric
****

Admit it Katie, they were trying to find your head up there.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:06 PM (hVdx9)

508 "I am 43 years old, my life and values are a failure. "


Dude. Don't say that. You're on the right path. Basically the "fuck them and arm up" path.

Learn. Love. Live.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:07 PM (jzvl8)

509 502 Well I'm off to bed 'cause I have to restart this geyser at 4:30am.

Later all.

Posted by: Blano


Godspeed, sir. this too, shall pass.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:07 PM (jf492)

510 IronGrampa, bringing it as usual.

Posted by: Emmie at June 02, 2016 11:07 PM (xVuS6)

511 Thanks, irongrampa. I appreciate your pep talks. They're needed.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 11:07 PM (sdi6R)

512 499 483 Just the right policies would cause many to self-deport.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 10:57 PM (39g3+)
This.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:00 PM (oKE6c)
But that would be malicious .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (MNgU2)



It's one reason I do not have a problem with Trump. Guilting him liberal style is not likely to work; if he thinks something should be done, he'll do it, liberal bleating notwithstanding. Now what he thinks should be done is anyone's guess, but where there's life, there's hope.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (oKE6c)

513 Blano!!

...BEATS CHEST...

...AVENGE ME...

Posted by: Harambe the Gorilla at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (RHnu3)

514
There's nobody in prison for possesion of personal use weed.


Well, lets say nobody in prison for JUST that. It was a way to get reprobates out on parole back in the clink.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (39g3+)

515 Won't be an easy row to hoe, that is evident. But I
believe we are destined to prevail, simply because we are Americans, and
as such are denied the option of failure.

Remember that.


Posted by: irongrampa at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (X35Yt)

I'm glad you're a commenter here IG...you're good for my soul. Truly. I tend to veer towards the deep end of the pool occasionally...you keep me sane. Thanks.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (pcyHg)

516 491 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (mvenn)

Bob....

BOB!

Get the fork lift if we hit the fucker HARDER it'll WORK!

//Butte Man holding a duck near the door

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (g8Hfr)

517 Won't be an easy row to hoe, that is evident. But I believe we are destined to prevail, simply because we are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.

Remember that.


Posted by: irongrampa at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM (X35Yt)

****


Thanks for that Fe-gramps. I'll stand with you.

The fundamental truths (although under attack on many fronts) are after all fundamentally true.

...and will prevail. Be of good cheer.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (mvenn)

518 500 Be of good cheer: the times are a-changing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
****
Oh yeah, the company that is buying ours, is not happy with my dept. I may be unemployed soon. Sorry, on funemployment. Wheeeee.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)



I'm sorry to hear that, and hope your situation improves soon, but I sense that the wind is changing direction in America as a whole. And not a minute too soon.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (oKE6c)

519 505---They're there, under the layer of filth laid on them by the progressive left.

All of us,each in his/her own way must work to bring them to the forefront. Doesn't matter how insignificant it may seem, you gotta keep fighting.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 02, 2016 11:05 PM
----------------
Please never, ever stop reminding us of that.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (T/5A0)

520 491 **SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


**SLAM**


"QUACK"


You're right. This is fun!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:02 PM (mvenn)

Just because I needed a good laugh tonight.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (RDM5+)

521 "Oh yeah, the company that is buying ours, is not happy with my dept. I may be unemployed soon. Sorry, on funemployment. Wheeeee."

Pfft. That's like a Tuesday. Sock away any moolah? You need too. Do it quick.


A year's worth is good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (jzvl8)

522 Blano,

Hang in there buddy, you'll be fine!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (pcyHg)

523 sven, hang tough. Being a daywalker I happen to know which part of the country you are currently enjoying, as I was born there. Just breathe it all in. I would love to return there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (jf492)

524 There's nobody in prison for possesion of personal use weed.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:06 PM (MNgU2)

Unless they thought you had too much for just you.

An analogy - getting picked up with a half-gallon of Dos Dedos. More than you can drink tonight...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (P/kVC)

525 Dude. Don't say that. You're on the right path. Basically the "fuck them and arm up" path.

Learn. Love. Live.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill
****

I am doing that. Hence why I will likely be dead before the end of Hillary's first term.
Not whining, just kind of bummed over it. Had hoped to buy a house, get another little foo-foo dog, and grow old with my little lady. F'ing mentally ill leftists.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:10 PM (hVdx9)

526 no ONT?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 11:10 PM (uAvJJ)

527 Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (oKE6c)

I was quoting Trump

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:10 PM (MNgU2)

528 Time to take the doggehs out for their pre-go-to-bed-potty-break.

Y'all take care.

Goodnight.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 02, 2016 11:11 PM (pcyHg)

529 Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (P/kVC)

I think it's a statutory amount. Of course Snoop Dog's personal use is probably considered major league trafficking.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:12 PM (MNgU2)

530 Now, where did I put that dang duck!??!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:12 PM (mvenn)

531
I'm sorry to hear that, and hope your situation improves soon, but I sense that the wind is changing direction in America as a whole. And not a minute too soon.


Posted by: Jay Guevara
****

Thanks Jay. I hope you are right.
Nothing like good old nepotism and coddling to screw up a department. Sh*t. I hate looking for work. Been with the company almost 9 years. Well, things constantly change.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:13 PM (hVdx9)

532 527 Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:08 PM (oKE6c)
I was quoting Trump
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:10 PM (MNgU2)



Got me. I have no what he really thinks. In my lighter moments, I think he takes all sides of an issue to confuse the opposition, and complicate efforts to attack him. In my darker ones, I think he's just all over the shop.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 02, 2016 11:13 PM (oKE6c)

533 523 Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:09 PM (jf492)

I enjoy the scenery and I mostly keep it together....

but the lack of unity...the inability of "our" side's leaders to even admit they need to grab the other side and kick back...

"yeah"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (g8Hfr)

534 You'll get no ONT and you'll like it!

Posted by: Judge Smails at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (1xUj/)

535 "I am doing that. Hence why I will likely be dead before the end of Hillary's first term. "



I doubt it. You're healthier than me and I'm a couple years older than you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (jzvl8)

536 Some days you slam the duck.

Some days the duck slams you.


That's life.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (mvenn)

537 I think it's a statutory amount. Of course Snoop Dog's personal use is probably considered major league trafficking.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:12 PM (MNgU2)

Did anybody ever accuse Snoop of bogarting a spliff?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (P/kVC)

538 "Y'all take care.

Goodnight."


Hasta, six.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:15 PM (jzvl8)

539 Rabbit season.

Posted by: daffy at June 02, 2016 11:15 PM (11H2y)

540 Well, since we're just hanging around waiting for the ONT I can give a sneak peak at tomorrow's EZ Dog diary:

June 3, 1944
We moved CP to Velletri today - in a beautiful villa (running water and electric lights) on the side of a very beautiful hill. There is very little sign of war here - a welcome relief. Velletri itself is badly torn up but we are about a mile out of town. Our villa was formerly occupied by members of the German high command. They moved out day before yesterday. This morning our wire crew captured a Kraut 1st Sgt in the air raid shelter that goes with the house. The front is moving forward so fast we hear only faint sounds from the front. Lanuvio was cleaned up today and troops move on to Genzano, below Lake Nemi, and Rocca di Papa north of the lake. II Corps advanced within 7 miles and probably less of Rome. Our armor was last reported South of Lake Albano. Today the front as a whole has moved farther than any other since the 3d Div took Cori.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:16 PM (mvenn)

541 regarding good things: listening to Zac Brown Band's live cover of Devil Went Down to Georgia.

I say this without apology, despite being a rabid thrash-metal fan. I know great music when I hear it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:16 PM (jf492)

542 " Some days you slam the duck.

Some days the duck slams you. "



Man, ain't that the truth. 9AM everything. By 3-M your in a goddam shit-storm.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:17 PM (jzvl8)

543 Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 11:14 PM (P/kVC)

I think Snoop only does blunts.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:17 PM (MNgU2)

544 Some days you slam the duck.

Some days the duck slams you.


That's life.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Somewhere, a chicken heaves a gusty sigh of relief.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:18 PM (jf492)

545 I think Snoop only does blunts.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:17 PM (MNgU2)

That tobacco will kill ya.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (P/kVC)

546 regarding good things: listening to Zac Brown Band's live cover of Devil Went Down to Georgia.

I say this without apology, despite being a rabid thrash-metal fan. I know great music when I hear it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon
*****

Misery Loves Company
A Million Lies
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hxpoow9

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (hVdx9)

547 Listening to a band I saw on Booze Traveler in New Orleans: Soul Rebels. Horn driven funk/jazz/something else. Reminds me of some of the better Neville Brothers stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (39g3+)

548 "Shitstorm"


I meant to include "shitstorm" in my last comment.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (jzvl8)

549 Let's take a moment to wish Cleavon Little, the Sheriff in Blazing Saddles, a very happy birthday. That movie could not be made today.

Posted by: vivi at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (11H2y)

550 Let's take a moment to wish Cleavon Little, the Sheriff in Blazing Saddles, a very happy birthday. That movie could not be made today.

Posted by: vivi
****

A transgendered sheriff!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:20 PM (hVdx9)

551 Posted by: vivi at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (11H2y)

The sheriff is near .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:20 PM (MNgU2)

552 Let's take a moment to wish Cleavon Little, the Sheriff in Blazing Saddles,


****

Cleavon, Cleavon likes his money...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:21 PM (mvenn)

553 The Sheriff is a ni-*boNnGGGG!!!!!!!*

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at June 02, 2016 11:22 PM (39g3+)

554 regarding good things: listening to Zac Brown Band's live cover of Devil Went Down to Georgia.

I say this without apology, despite being a rabid thrash-metal fan. I know great music when I hear it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon

I'm doing a 70's music review in the background while reading the blog.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:22 PM (RDM5+)

555 I meant to include "shitstorm" in my last comment.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (jzvl


****

It's always implied.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:22 PM (mvenn)

556 FWIW, I've been having an interesting time trying to nudge a progressive that I know to the right.

She is 50-something, and very 'Progressive' She had mentioned that she was concerned about the invasion of our lives by computers and data-gatherers.

In a rare moment of insight, I sensed an opportunity. I tucked a copy of 'Ctrl-Alt-Revolt' into the truck, and the next time I ran into her, I casually mentioned that after our last conversation about computers invading our lives, she might find this book an interesting read.

I didn't expect her to even finish it, but a week later she told me, 'Wow, that was a great book'. Heh. I was surprised. So a week or so later, I gave her a copy of 'An Act of Self-Defense'. I really could not imagine that she would read it, but, another week goes by and (with concern) she asks, 'Do you think these things are actually happening?'

I assured her that the powers-that-be have very little regard for the population (whatever their rhetoric), and a great deal of concern for their own power and position, all of which is derived from control of the people.

This week, I dropped 'Shelleys Heart' on her. This is getting interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2016 11:23 PM (J3phO)

557 Let's take a moment to wish Cleavon Little, the Sheriff in Blazing Saddles, a very happy birthday. That movie could not be made today.

Posted by: vivi at June 02, 2016 11:19 PM (11H2y)

Last time I watched Blazing Saddles they bleeped out all the bad words. Well only one bad word. the "N" word. As if you didn't already know that.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:24 PM (RDM5+)

558
*airdrops an inflatable raft at RK's location*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2016 11:24 PM (J3phO)

559 An adjective walked into a bar.
The bartender say' What can I get ya?'
The adjective replies' I don't know the name of the drink but let me describe to you'

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:24 PM (MNgU2)

560 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgSPO191GrQ

Posted by: vivi at June 02, 2016 11:25 PM (11H2y)

561 Last time I watched Blazing Saddles they bleeped out all the bad words. Well only one bad word. the "N" word. As if you didn't already know that.

Posted by: tbodie
****

I saw it without the fart sounds. Quite upsetting.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:25 PM (hVdx9)

562 I'm doing a 70's music review in the background while reading the blog.

Posted by: tbodie

Me and Mrs. Mahon were on a road trip last weekend, and the one station that we got on thr radio was classic hits. heard some great, cheesy old timey stuff. Steely Dan, Elton John, jerry rafferty, even Michael Jackson. it was more fun than I would have thought. Some things stand the test of time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:26 PM (jf492)

563 "Let's take a moment to wish Cleavon Little, the Sheriff in Blazing Saddles, a very happy birthday. That movie could not be made today."


Cleavon Little. Nobody could have done it better.




*Hats over heart*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:27 PM (jzvl8)

564
Hillary Clinton posted and shared the names of concealed U.S. intelligence officials on her unprotected email system.

http://goo.gl/evVxIq

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (iQIUe)

565 I looked out this morning and the sun was gone. Turned on some music to start my day.........

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (RDM5+)

566 I saw it without the fart sounds. Quite upsetting.

Dude, that's one of the best scenes! Its so childish and stupid and hilarious


Gerry Rafferty. He's got other songs but man was this one ever one for the ages

https://youtu.be/fsLrnylZheE

Apparently they were supposed to have a guitar for that main lick but the guy didn't show up so they had a sax fill in and... well, history.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (39g3+)

567 This week, I dropped 'Shelleys Heart' on her. This is getting interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2016 11:23 PM (J3phO)


*****


Think she's ready for "The Federalist Papers"?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (mvenn)

568 Helium walks into a bar.
The bartender says, "Hey, we don't serve noble gases in here!"
Helium doesn't react.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (RHnu3)

569 Thanks for the EZ Dog diary segment, Muldoon.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 11:29 PM (QDnY+)

570 I saw it without the fart sounds. Quite upsetting.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:25 PM (hVdx9)

Fart rape is now a thing as well............

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:29 PM (RDM5+)

571 561 Last time I watched Blazing Saddles they bleeped out all the bad words. Well only one bad word. the "N" word. As if you didn't already know that.

Posted by: tbodie
****

I saw it without the fart sounds. Quite upsetting.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:25 PM (hVdx9)

"The Big Lebowski" without the cursing is pretty funny. The scene where Walter is smashing the windows of the car, shouting "This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!" was changed to "This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!"

Posted by: Josephistan at June 02, 2016 11:30 PM (7qAYi)

572 Helium doesn't react.

Chemist humor. Very dry.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2016 11:30 PM (39g3+)

573 A red blood cell walks into a bar.

Bartender says, "Hey, we don't serve your type."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:30 PM (mvenn)

574 I saw it without the fart sounds. Quite upsetting.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale


Saw that once on TBS or whatever. it was a group of beefy men enjoying a very quiet meal. Made no sense. I also recall them censoring Lilly von Schtupp. It was Lily von (blank). Blech.

I miss Cleavon Little and Madelyn Khan.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:30 PM (jf492)

575 Me and Mrs. Mahon were on a road trip last weekend, and the one station that we got on thr radio was classic hits. heard some great, cheesy old timey stuff. Steely Dan, Elton John, jerry rafferty, even Michael Jackson. it was more fun than I would have thought. Some things stand the test of time.

"..great, cheesy old timey stuff."

Well said.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:31 PM (RDM5+)

576 A neuron walks into a bar. He asks, how much for a drink?

Bartender says, for you, no charge.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:32 PM (jf492)

577 "*airdrops an inflatable raft at RK's location*



Apepreciate.


*brings vienna sausages and crackers*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 11:32 PM (jzvl8)

578 Dude, that's one of the best scenes! Its so childish and stupid and hilarious


Gerry Rafferty. He's got other songs but man was this one ever one for the ages

https://youtu.be/fsLrnylZheE

Apparently they were supposed to have a guitar for that main lick but the guy didn't show up so they had a sax fill in and... well, history.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson
****

I know, right?

Good thing the guitar guy didn't show. It would have hurt the song IMHO. And I was still in the single digits age wise when that song came out.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:32 PM (hVdx9)

579 @569 Posted by: rhomboid


****

You're very welcome. I'll probably continue through the liberation of Rome and a few days after, then call it enough.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 11:32 PM (mvenn)

580 Bruce, thanks for the link on Hillary's very serious classified info violations. Just one thing to note, the article says the situation is "reminiscent of the Valerie Plame scandal".


Jeebus. There was *no* scandal involved in that - apart from the bizarre and still inexplicable behavior of the WH in reaction to the stupid op-ed, and also the fact that George kept his job as DCI even after that nth confirmation that his agency was packed full of stupid unprofessional sorts.


Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 11:34 PM (QDnY+)

581 Hillary has stopped giving press conferences for the same reason since she entered the national scene running up to the '92 election. People fucking hate her, even her supporters. They like the idea of her all right but Hillary in the flesh is about as appealing as toe fungus.

Every time she opens that piehole of hers and screeches out at everyone, her ratings go down. Happened all the time in the 90s. She'd disappear, her approvals went up, she showed up popping off about something, and bang, down they went again. The MSM literally carried her across the finish line in that NY Senate race.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 02, 2016 11:34 PM (XN0hD)

582 Saw that once on TBS or whatever. it was a group of beefy men enjoying a very quiet meal. Made no sense. I also recall them censoring Lilly von Schtupp. It was Lily von (blank). Blech.

I miss Cleavon Little and Madelyn Khan.

Posted by: Pug Mahon
****
I think that was the one I saw. Annoyed me so much I fired up the DVD version.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:34 PM (hVdx9)

583 schrodenlinger's cat walks into a bar.

The bartender says ' well now I know you're alive'

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:34 PM (MNgU2)

584 ONT is UP!

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2016 11:34 PM (RDM5+)

585 Baker Street...

Never knew the sax story. but that song would not have worked without it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:35 PM (jf492)

586 The Big Lebowski" without the cursing is pretty funny. The scene where Walter is smashing the windows of the car, shouting "This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!" was changed to "This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!"


Posted by: Josephistan

And everyone who never saw it uncensored is thinking WTF is he on about?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 02, 2016 11:36 PM (hVdx9)

587 850 million Chinese walk in to a bar.


Bartender says "we don't see many Chinese in here".


(that's it)


Muldoon - was your dad's unit not involved in much fun n' games after Rome, or you suspending diary entries for another reason?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 02, 2016 11:36 PM (QDnY+)

588 ONT

Yeah! just when I was heading for bed. Woo hoo!

G'night.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2016 11:36 PM (jf492)

589 Crap. Schrodinger

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 11:36 PM (MNgU2)

590 Think she's ready for "The Federalist Papers"?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
----------

I've never effected a philosophical shift of a Lefty before... but this may actually work. We'll see.

Thanks for the diary entry. Always very interesting.

As an aside, some notes from Verdun, 100 years ago now:
--

They must be crazy to do what they are doing now: what a bloodbath, what horrid images, what a slaughter! I just cannot find the words to express my feelings. Hell can not be this dreadful. People are insane!
- Alfred Joubaire (???- 1916), French soldier (last diary entry)
-----

There is nothing as tiring as the continuous, enormous bombardment we lived through, last night at the front. The night is disturbed by light as clear as if it were day. The earth moves and shakes like jelly. And the men who are still at the front line cannot hear anything but the gunfire, the moaning of wounded friends, the screams of hurt horses, the wild pounding of their own hearts, hour after hour, day after day, night after night. (anon German soldier at Verdun)
------
You could never get rid of the horrible stench. If we were on leave and we were having a drink somewhere, it would only last a few minutes before the people at the table beside us would stand up and leave. It was impossible to endure the horrible stench of Verdun. - a French survivor of the battle

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2016 11:40 PM (9mTYi)

591 I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

Posted by: the search committee for Hillary Clinton's cabinet at June 02, 2016 11:41 PM (11H2y)

592 566
Gerry Rafferty. He's got other songs but man was this one ever one for the ages

https://youtu.be/fsLrnylZheE

Apparently they were supposed to have a guitar for that main lick but the guy didn't show up so they had a sax fill in and... well, history.
Posted by: Gabby Johnson at June 02, 2016 11:28 PM (39g3+)


That song inspired Al Stewart to include a sax solo on "Year of the Cat", which also became a monster hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7ZQURMs

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 11:47 PM (sdi6R)

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News/Chat